The Note: DNC Takes Sharper Tone as Hillary’s a Hit
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports in Wednesday’s Note:
DENVER —
One Clinton down, one to go. (And yes, the party’s getting there, even if that other Clinton is heeding his wife’s words and going a bit early.)
To the extent that a single speech can suck the drama out of a convention that was stuffed with it — and a party that’s grown sick of it — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton did her part Tuesday night.
With two political futures at stake, she gave the party something to be excited about — and to ensure that if her backers don’t come around to Sen. Barack Obama, it won’t be her fault. (If she didn’t heap on the praise, at least she was genuine.)
The Denver Post goes with capital letters: “THE TEAM PLAYER.”
If you looked carefully enough, you saw a message coming together at the Pepsi Center — a procession of speakers competing for sound-bite-of-the-night (and how about Gov. Brian Schweitzer, D-Mont.?) in bashing Sen. John McCain — then Hillary tying it in a neat bow for the Democratic Party to marvel at.
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Now, it’s Bill Clinton’s chance to make sure it doesn’t unravel. (And it falls to Obamaland to reconsider/redesign/spin the setting for Thursday night. A Greek temple? Were they out of Roman thrones?)
As for Wednesday’s marquee speech (with apologies to Joe Biden, who has a pretty big night on tap himself):
“Take away the context of this campaign year, and they could be pals, perhaps even big and little brothers of the Democratic family — the so-called first black president mentors a prospective real black president. But context is everything in politics, and because of that, their relationship is anything but close,” David Maraniss writes in a Washington Post must-read-and-digest.
“He intends to do what is expected of him, according to many friends and associates, and try to convince the public that Obama has the toughness and wisdom to be commander in chief,” Maraniss continues.
“But though the speech might be as important to Clinton as it is to Obama, those close to him say he will deliver it with lingering feelings of estrangement that have surprisingly little to do with the fact that Obama defeated his wife in the primaries. … Clinton associates, long familiar with his habits and rhythms, say it would take little more than phone calls on a somewhat regular basis to keep him satisfied.”
(Mr. President, we ask again: Is he ready?)
“We’re not nervous at all,” Obama advisor Anita Dunn said in the campaign’s morning convention conference call, per ABC’s Sunlen Miller.
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I have to admit I’m a little curious what Bill is going to say.
I don’t get the pundits, though. What is that Hillary Clinton didn’t say last night that she should have?
Let’s see… “I’m a proud supporter of Obama.” That pretty much says it all right there, no?
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Hillary was great last night, go ahead republicans keep using her she will cut you!
Posted by: rachel | August 27, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
I’m sure most people don’t remember this, but at the very beginning of the campaign, a Democratic strategist (can’t remember the guy’s name) on CNN posed the question, “Do the Clintons really want to stand in the way of the first African-American president?” I think that sums up the hatred for Hillary Clinton. Much of the Democratic party is made up of white-guilt liberals, and they can’t abide the idea that anyone would interfere with a black man becoming president. If Obama wasn’t in the running, those same liberals would be singing Hillary’s praises. Hillary had the misfortune to run at a time when the white-guilt liberals decided it was time to elect a black man to the Oval Office. The amazing thing is that these liberals touted Obama’s lack of experience as if it was some kind of virtue, and condemned Hillary’s experience as being “the old politics.” Now their “new kind of politican” is practicing the “old politics.” Furthermore, his handlers have forced him to select a VP candidate with the experience they once claimed was not important. Such is life in ObamaWorld. I feel like I’ve fallen asleep and awakened in some kind of surreal world where the lunatics are in charge of the asylum . .. .
Posted by: Andrea | August 27, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
the problem is she did not say anything about her comments on commander in chief…
and this morning I saw the Mccain/Hillary ads 3 times saying Mccain is better than Obama to be commander in chief
3 times
their biggest argument is Hillary saying over and over …John McCain is commander in chief and Barack is not
that’s a problem
if they win and her words were one of main clubs they used to hammer obama (which they are more than any other ad)
everyone loses.
stupid selfish jugular tactics in a primary come back to bite everybody in the a$$… ugh
no candidate obama or Clinton is important enough to say the other candidat ein the party isn’t as good as the other party…
if the people and the issues are what is important why do we keep seeing Hillary over and over on the tv this morning dissing obama.
I guess maybe the damage is done…
sad…
everyone will be blamed by half the party…and if that happens politically these guys are done…especially the person being used in every ad saying the main argument from the republicans
sorry don’t get mad at the messenger…get mad at the tv.
Posted by: dl | August 27, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
It didn’t help!!! over at the http://www.drudgereport.com
No healing by hillary speech!!! delegates upset!! Bill Clinton to boycott Obama Speech!!! reported by CNN
Posted by: Hilly-Billy | August 27, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
It will be great when Obama loses then we never have to look at him or that pug Ted Kennedy ever again
Posted by: hilll | August 27, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Hillary certainly did not give a ringing endorsement of Obama. She did not say things like “he’s ready to lead”, etc.
One interesting thing was here line: “No way, no how, no McCain”.
As many of us know, it’s a very popular line actually used against Obama: “No way, no how, Nobama”.
I’m sure she did that on purpose to indicate she is being forced to support Obama.
Posted by: JA | August 27, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
it has so little to do with white guilt liberals…
right or wrong …
it has everything to do with how the Clinton years ended.
Period.
Unfortunately whomever you blame for the end of the Clinton years…
Obama rose up because everyone remembered both the good AND the bad of the Clinton years.
and he got the message right hope and change…
(judgement)
and for all his “inexperience” he ran the tightest ship we have seen in years.
so enough with trying to blame this on racism, sexism, agism…etc…
it was about getting the message right, and judgement and management with the obama campaign…
they got it right.
and if it wasn’t for the long contentious primary… hurt feelings and now the jugular statements that McCain is using from Hillary for his main message delivery…
we would not be in this situation.
Posted by: dl | August 27, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
OMG… I am tired of hearing what she should have said… What more do you want her to say?? She said NO MCCAIN and A PROUD SUPPORTER OF OBAMA…
Posted by: OMG | August 27, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
dl,
The good of the Clinton years were relative peace and economic prosperity. The bad of the Clinton years were his sex scandals. Honestly, who cares about personal scandals. Bush had none yet he was a horrible president.
Maybe the Democrats will learn from this. STOP PUTTING FORWARD ULTRA LIBERALS AS THE COUNTRY DOES NOT WANT THEM. The Clintons were moderate, which is their appeal.
The Republican Party remains the ingenious party. They are actually in this despite the fact that the Repub image is seriously broken. Why? BECAUSE THEY PUT FORWARD THEIR STRONGEST AND MOST EXPERIENCED CANDIDATE, NOT A ROCK STAR.
Posted by: JA | August 27, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Hillary may have been great last night, but what the hell is wrong with the Obama camp?
What is this Greek Temple crap, I mean geez talk about overkill, does everything have to be big and large like that.
On one hand Obama is crying Mc Cain is out of touch and here he is accepting his nomination on the steps of a Greek Temple, get real is this really necessary, the Republicans are going to have a field day with this and they should, it the dumbest idea anyone could of had.
Posted by: novote | August 27, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I think the reporters and so called journalists are just stirring the caldrun. They need something to say. Personally, I know the democrats are doing just fine as the republicans are beginning to panic. Watch as time goes by, they get louder and more “off message.” They literally have nothing to offer. So if they can’t extoll their virtues, they’ll shoot down anything at this point.
Mittens has said that Biden shot down Obama in the primaries, better than he did with McCain. The reasoning is clear, Biden is smarter and more aggressive than Mittens. So much for a republican VP!
Posted by: DAVID NH | August 27, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Front Page
DNC Wrap-Up Day Two: It’s Hillary’s Convention Now
Barack Obama is an Afterthought.
Posted by: Mark Impomeni
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 08:00AM
The second night of the Democratic National Convention prior to Sen. Hillary Clinton’s speech was nearly as unmemorable as day one. And an interesting pattern has emerged in all of the main speakers’ remarks. Barack Obama is an accessory, an add-on, a superfluous reference tucked in on the end of a litany of the speaker’s accomplishments and beliefs. There is almost no discussion of the nominee as a man separate and distinct from the speaker. Rather, he is a concept, an ethereal being, an abstraction. It is almost as if the speakers are deliberately trying to distance themselves from Obama, at his own convention.
Hillary Clinton was the star of the evening in a big way. So much so that she appears to have taken the convention by force, and will hold it for at least one more day.
Sen. Robert Casey of Pennsylvania got things started with a thoroughgoing and dull speech in which he mostly talked about his father. Casey gets credit for mentioning his disagreement with Obama on abortion; and he at least tried to rile up the crowd with some decent attacks on the Bush Administration and John McCain. But the crowd wasn’t entirely into it. They were anticipating greater things to come. Two hours in, David Gergen was once again on CNN, lamenting the lack of anything memorable happening in Denver.
Former Virginia Governor and likely its next Senator Mark Warner was the keynoter and he was dreadfully awful. It is actually hard to put into words just how bad, boring, and trivial his speech was. Warner must think he is a Senator already as his speech was full of incredible nothingness. He prattled on about how this was an election about th future, which he said is more important than a presidential election. He talked about his tenure as governor, praised his management of the state, bragged on his success in business, and just for good measure tossed in an Obama every couple of paragraphs or so. There was no energy in the arena during his address. Many view Warner as the 2012 front runner in the event of an Obama loss in November. Viewed in that light, this speech was his 2012 concession.
With Warner finished, anticipation in the hall began to grow for Sen. Clinton, the real headliner of the night. Before she took the stage, however, there was a speech from Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, who demonstrated completely why she is not Barack Obama’s running mate. There was also a surprise keynote from Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer. His was an energy packed speech about energy policy. He was animated, connected with the crowd, and genuinely fun to watch. It was not the keynote listed in the schedule, but it was far and above a better one that Warner managed to deliver.
Then it was Hillary’s turn. Clinton delivered a real stemwinder of an address, recounting her primary campaign, and pointedly not conceding. She delivered the requisite declarations of support for Sen. Obama. But in a twenty minute plus speech, Clinton only managed to mention him by name 10 times. Like the rest of the speakers, the mentions of Obama came not in the context of anything he would actually do as president, but in a “him too” kind of way. The typical formulation can be seen in this passage from the prepared text.
I ran for President to renew the promise of America. To rebuild the middle class and sustain the American Dream, to provide the opportunity to work hard and have that work rewarded, to save for college, a home and retirement, to afford the gas and groceries and still have a little left over each month…
Most of all, I ran to stand up for all those who have been invisible to their government for eight long years.
Those are the reasons I ran for President. Those are the reasons I support Barack Obama. And those are the reasons you should too.
Except that when she delivered it, she left out the last line. Sen. Clinton’s speech was about her campaign, not the coming one. When it was over, Bill Kristol called it a “shockingly minimal endorsement of Barack Obama.”
Barack Obama has no presence at this convention. He is not physically there, and he is not oft discussed. His name is used like a drug to placate the seething masses of delegates, administered in small enough doses to keep them wanting for more. But it never comes. Clinton stepped into this atmosphere, and took over. The convention is now about her. She is who everyone is talking about; and she will continue to be the topic after tomorrow night, with the roll call of the states and former President Bill Clinton’s speech. Tonight, Clinton laid down a marker on 2012 and a gauntlet for Thursday night, when Obama will have to equal her performance. He had better be good or he will leave Denver with the nomination, but without the mantle of leader of the Democratic Party.
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/27/dnc-wrap-day-two-its-hillarys-convention-now/
Posted by: Michelle | August 27, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Obama is trying to recreate Mount Olympus. He wants to join the gods.
Posted by: Sluggo | August 27, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
novote,
I agree. I wonder who is running things over there. Who actually thinks that promoting the image of “rock star” or “celebrity” is a good idea?
I actually think this will backfire quite a bit. Obama is no longer the fresh face he once was. This will look as ridiculous as Bill Clinton, for instance, being raised from under ground to a Greek podium.
NEWSFLASH: The average American could care less about Greek times. My guess is that Obama will actually try to incorporate the rise of Greek/Western civilization into his speech. GOOD LUCK!
Posted by: JA | August 27, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Hillary we all know that you and your racist husband as Obama put it will vote for McCain
Posted by: hilll | August 27, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Obama should say Thursday night that there is a good reason why he didn’t pick Hillary to be his running mate. He should announce that he intends to nominate her for the Supreme Court. Anything short of that will not bring unity and will mean defeat in November.
Posted by: hamishdad | August 27, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Sorry, but Hillary Clinton is no way near qualified for the Supreme Court. At most she’ll get a spot in Obama’s cabinet.
Posted by: JA | August 27, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
@Sluggo: You sure made me bust out laughing this morning lol
Posted by: novote | August 27, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
The setup of the “Greek Temple” cost more than all of John McCain houses.
What a waste of money just to showcase “the ONE”.
Posted by: susie | August 27, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
wow! hillary nailed it last night. great tone, great lines, great speech. tonight the dems talk about national security, that’s when we’ll hear about sen. obama and sen. biden’s plan.
Posted by: otis | August 27, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
A tempest in a teapot. If Hillary said she fully supports Obama, why is the media parsing every work and coming up with stuff she didn’t explicitly say? She didn’t say she liked his fabric softener either. If she’s supporting him, doesn’t that pretty much say she thinks he can do the job. Perhaps in her mind not as well as she herself can, but still, that he can do the job.
Posted by: Catherine | August 27, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Catherine,
Because everyone knows that Clinton couldn’t go up there and say she didn’t support Obama. Her political future would be over. She’s being forced into backing Obama.
But ANYONE with half a brain knows she is planning a 2012 run and is hoping McCain will win.
Posted by: JA | August 27, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Oh My GOD Bill Clinton is racist
Posted by: bagger | August 27, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Whatever Hillary asked her supporters to do last night was totally wasted this morning as they arose to the news that this idiot Obama is building a replica of a Greek Temple to accept his nomination.
I mean come on we are all intelligent people but something has to be really wrong with any individual that needs to showboat and grand stand to get a message across.
What is he going to do appear in a Toga and hand out grapes geez, elections are supposed to be serious business not a stage performance as if its a Hollywood production of Ben Hur.
I am truly disappointed and to me whatever little good Hillary tried to accomplish last night, this morning news would make any right thinking person say sorry Hill not me and that idiot.
Posted by: novote | August 27, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Will the Lion King Wear a Toga?
What a crock of crap!
Posted by: Jethro Gore | August 27, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
NoVote.. ROTFLMAO. You said it, my friend.
Posted by: a reader in georgia | August 27, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Clinton’s main subject was the principles SHE ran on, and she stated it was HER platform. In referring to Obama she said we need a democratic President, not ‘we need Obama’. Nor did she compliment his character. She did an admirable job, considering she was only doing what she HAD to do.
Posted by: Billw | August 27, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
She said, over and over: This election is too important to fuss about exaggerated slights during the primaries. For the sake of America and the free world, the Republicans must be defeated and removed from power. The rest is all media selling papers and airtime.
Posted by: thebob.bob | August 27, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
The comment about unequal pay was a nice jab at elitist Michelle and her inflated salary.
Posted by: geevill | August 27, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Hillary is showing more class than her husband, who yesterday continued mealymouthing Obama. Lord only knows what weak support Bill will show for the ticket tonight. His eyes are on 2012 and getting himself back in the White House as co-prez. Well, the rest of the Dem party is partying hearty anyway. Bidding to purchase the web address http://www.Obamatini.com is brisk, a clear sign that most of us know a good thing (Obama/Obiden) when we see it.
Posted by: edwards | August 27, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
I was skeptical about what Hillary would say. But she said it all. It is not about her, it is about the need to end the Bush nightmare Any Clinton supporter who cannot grasp what she said in her excellent speech and get behind Obama is against all that Hillary is fighting for.
Posted by: jefflz | August 27, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Bill has no relationship with Bozo so why does he have to sing his praises?
He can pump up the Dem party, but hard to get behind someone who’s experience and judgement you’re not buying either.
Can’t wait until Hill and Bill don’t have to fake it and stump for this loser!
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 27, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Posted by: Andrea | Aug 27, 2008 11:05:52 AM
Are you saying that white people voted for Obama because he’s black. That we just alternately had an epiphany????
Posted by: Mille | August 27, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Part of me wanted HRC to come out last night, listen to the applause, and return Obama’s campaign gesture (the bird), and leave. But she’s bigger than that. And now the world waits for Obama’s next move.
Think about it – she didn’t endorse him as fit to lead. But he can’t complain about it. Cuz she told her troops to follow his lead (wink, wink). Can’t complain about any unspoken animosity from her. He’d look petty. She even went as far as complimenting Michelle. And she did it with less pained look than Michelle’s speech whenever she struggled to smile for the crowd.
It’s up to Obama to move from rhetoric to action. To show some grit. My bet is on the old guy who has yet to tip his hand. Obama may have just one house, but I suspect it’s pretty comfortable. And, heck, the yard is pretty big too. He can enjoy them during the Senate breaks for the rest of his term.
Buh-Bye, Obama.
Posted by: FishMonger | August 27, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
rachel:
Your post is nonsensical!
The question is was she lying then or
is she lying now!
Neither the Republicans nor John McCain
said that “John McCain has a lifetime
of experience and Barack Obama has
a speech from 2002″!
Hillary Clinton said that just a
couple of months ago.
She’s doing what she has to do now to maintain her place in the party and that’s it!
McCain should run that ad everyday until
election day. It is devastating!
Posted by: reaganfan | August 27, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Hillary has campaigned for this bozo more than any other male Prez. opponent…hell, she was stumping for him when he was body surfing in Hawaii. Maybe they want her to clean his windows too….screw them.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
I think it was pretty clear last night who the Dems should have as the nominee, but the system was rigged, the new face pushed through by liberal media BEFORE VETTING. His 11 wins BEFORE WRIGHT, REZKO, ANGRY MICHELLE, PFLEGER, AYERS and every other lack of judgement association…..and still the questions of his birth place, Muslim, family question marks…..actually Obama is a huge question mark and I could never vote for him.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN
Posted by: Debra | August 27, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
I hold the Media responsible for all the problems the Democratic party is having at this point. Hillary gave a great speech last night and this morning the media was tearing her down. I am a strong Obama supporter today and I will say the media needs to stop creating drama.
Posted by: beck | August 27, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Lots of republican trolls in here. Good job HRC!
Obama 08
Posted by: Joe | August 27, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
I can’t wait to see Cindy Mclame try to deliver a speech like Michelle did. Cindy’s life story: I was born rich stole pills and now I’m married to John Mclame. I hurt my wrist because the drugs reduce the calcium levels in my bones.
Oh yea Debra the republican. I support Hillary. Whatever obviously you don’t!
Posted by: Joe | August 27, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Oh, right Joe, Cindy. You mean the “trollop” and other descriptive words John McCain used to describe his wife which ABC wouldn’t let me post.
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Its only natural Clinton supporters should now support McCain.
Afterall, Senator Hothead once joked: “Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father.”
Yep, any port in a storm, right?
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
McCain supporters,
So McCain is using Hillary in his ad, who does not even support him. Can your candidate speak for himself? What does he stand for? Is there any reason to vote for McCain himself? If McCain can’t speak for himself, he should nominate Hillary as his replacement.
Posted by: tony | August 27, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Beck: “Hillary gave a great speech last night and this morning the media was tearing her down.”
I’m with ya, Beck. I’ve been scratching my head over that one. Clinton says, among other things, that she’s a proud Obama supporter.
And the media takes note that she didn’t use the word “ready” or whatever silly arguments they are making.
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Debra; repeating lies is beneath even a Republican like you.
Posted by: Hoo-Ahh! | August 27, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
tony, not a bad idea.
But consider this from Newsweek. Maybe he can’t get any Republicans to speak for him.
Newsweek, 21 Feb 2000:
Of the 55 republicans in the U.S. Senate, only four support John McCain for president… Why can’t McCain win the votes of his own colleagues? To explain, a Republican senator tells this story: at a GOP meeting last fall, McCain erupted out of the blue at the respected Budget Committee chairman, Pete Domenici, saying, “Only an a–hole would put together a budget like this.” Offended, Domenici stood up and gave a dignified, restrained speech about how in all his years in the Senate, through many heated debates, no one had ever called him that. Another senator might have taken the moment to check his temper. But McCain went on: “I wouldn’t call you an a–hole unless you really were an a–hole.” The Republican senator witnessing the scene had considered supporting McCain for president, but changed his mind. “I decided,” the senator told NEWSWEEK, “I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.”
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
“I decided,” the Republican senator told NEWSWEEK, “I didn’t want this guy [McCain] anywhere near a trigger.”
If this is what Republican senators, his closest colleagues, think of John McCain, who are the rest of us to question this assessment?
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
paul…you seem to throw alot of ummmm colorful, descriptive accusations out on McCain..SO PROVE IT. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR INFORMATION? CITE YOUR INFORMATION. OTHERWISE YOU ARE ONLY DEMONSTRATING YOUR IGNORANCE ON ISSUES AND YOUR OPINIONS.
Posted by: CuriousIndep | August 27, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
It is only a matter of time before McCain’s legendary temper causes a blow-up in the campaign.
Posted by: Hoo-Ahh! | August 27, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
paul….the best you can do is cite an article from newsliberal err newsweek that is 8 years old…LOL
Posted by: CuriousIndep | August 27, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Well, curious, why can’t Paul go back eight years for info on McCain? Others are going back before Obama’s birth to try to smear him with being born in Kenya!
Posted by: Hoo-Ahh! | August 27, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Too many Obots on here….they get so viscious….funny what fear does to people.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
Posted by: Debra | August 27, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Did Hawaii cecede from the Union? OMG! Did anyone tell President Bush?
Posted by: Hoo-Ahh! | August 27, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Curious: “paul…you seem to throw alot of ummmm colorful, descriptive accusations out on McCain..SO PROVE IT. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR INFORMATION?”
Which one? I’d be happy to help you find anything.
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Debra,
have you come up with that single issue yet where McCain agrees with what Hillary fought for?
Posted by: Hoo-Ahh! | August 27, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Curious: “paul….the best you can do is cite an article from newsliberal err newsweek that is 8 years old…LOL.”
Not at all. Its merely demonstrating that McCain’s lack of stability has been known by his colleagues for years.
To demonstrate more recently, we only have to look at how he responded to the Russia/Georgia situation. He’s in over his head, and anyone who wants to objectively look at his words can see that’s the simple truth.
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Bill will say he cannot disagree less with candidate Obama. Bill will say he can only at best partially agree with candidate McCain – when McCain is in his maverick mood. In any case, to me it’s obvious who is his X and who is his Y.
Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | August 27, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
And, Curious, its not like I’m digging up anything about McCain that isn’t well known. I just like reminding people about it from time to time.
And in the case of new supporters who really don’t know who this guy is, maybe telling them for a first time.
The joke about Chelsea Clinton – well known.
The flare up at his wife Cindy – well known. But then it was Cindy’s fault… she mentioned his hairline was receding a little. That warrants getting called the ‘c’ word, huh?
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Curious, did you know that 13 years ago, McCain actually tried to start a fist-fight in the Capitol with the then 95-year-old Strom Thurmond?
Thurmond’s offense? He had asked if McCain was done speaking yet, and apparently the tone was a little snide for McCain’s tastes.
Think about that… he tried to fight a guy who was 95 years old. Is that really someone you want with our nuclear launch codes?
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Here’s how Harry Jaffe once described McCain’s temper, in an article in the Washingtonian:
John McCain bursts out of the cloakroom and onto the Senate floor. His face red, he rips off his glasses and gets ready to pound a table. Senator Hothead is mad. Again.
“He just comes out and blows up every once in a while,” says a congressional correspondent, who didn’t want to be named. “You can almost see the steam coming out of his ears.”
Posted by: Paul | August 27, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Okay every thing is healed and gotten over now. Go to the temple and hail the one true god of crapola and may the force be with you!
We will all play nice and vote McCain …bye bye!
Posted by: HP Boston | August 27, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Why does anyone care about Clinton anymore? The media glommed onto Obama early because there were no stones left to look under for HRC. Those of us who supported her have been called uneducated, racist, gun-toting, bible-clinging fools. Mr. Outsider…Mr. Change limped across the finish line and is now the darling of all the insiders he purports to abhor and wish to change.
And, NOW, you want HRC to pick up some pom-poms? You want Bill to give an atta-boy? And you want 18 million of us to just forget all the ugly words of the past several months? Because “McCain is the devil”? Please, the audacity of hope is nothing more than the bitterness of change. Change that hurls hate at those who disagree with you.
Michelle was right when she said that America is a mean country. The problem is she was looking just at the people near her – campaign staffers, the volunteers, the reverend. This brand of thug politics cannot win outside Chicago. We will not go away.
No way, no how, No Bama!
Posted by: FishMonger | August 27, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Senator Obama’s campaign is just more political rhetric and bogus promises. If he gets to the White House, most American families will be much worse off with higher taxes, higher energy costs and higher food costs. He has no viable solutions despite all his PRETTY SPEECHES. PRETTY SPEECHES don’t pay the bills. Senator Obama has split the Democratic Party and drove many to register or vote Republican. He is a socialist/communist/Marxist, not a true Democrat. He can not be believed or trusted. He just wants the power.
I watched Michelle Obama during Hillary’s speech last night and MO looked angry and hateful most of the time. Senator Clinton’s speech has been the very best so far during this convention. After the way,the Obama’s people treated the Clintons, Hillary was more generous than she should have been. It is hard to compliment such a corrupt candidate.
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA, to the most corrupt candidate in the last 100 years.
Posted by: Mary | August 27, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
I love that Bill and top Hill campaign aids are flying out of Denver before the rock star staged acceptance Thursday. Some Republicans that have been in Denver said they are leaving town when Bill does….very funny.
Why does Hillary have to release her delegates before roll call, if Bozo has it in the bag…anyone know?
Posted by: Debra | August 27, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
“Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, an Obama supporter, said Clinton’s challenge in getting her delegates to come on board with Obama “may be the biggest test of her leadership.”
“If she’s not a strong enough leader to get her followers to do what’s right for America, then that would surprise me,” McCaskill told the AP. ”
Claire McCaskill questioning Clinton’s leadership abilities? No wonder McCain is way ahead of Obama is MO.
Posted by: geevill | August 27, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
I would like to say that this is a very good post.
Posted by: العاب شمس الدين | August 27, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Anyone who claims they were for Hillary & say they are now voting for McCain is a liar. Period!
Posted by: Knockout Ed | Aug 27, 2008
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Knockout Ed,
OK, I think you are half right. HRC has made her case, and we respect her choice and her appeal to her voters. From now (the convention) on, we shall not mention we voted HRC in the primaries. We simply are dems who will vote for a Rep candidate, unfortunately, for the first time.
Posted by: fact check | August 27, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
What is this Greek Temple crap, I mean geez talk about overkill, does everything have to be big and large like that.
Posted by: novote | Aug 27, 2008
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The Greeks actually counted their stones, one person one stone, a true Jeffersonian, excuse me, Greek democracy.
Zero-bama really has built a Temple of Doom.
Posted by: fact check | August 27, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
I think Hill and Biden have said it best in their own words….BO not qualified to be Presiden….BELIEVE THEM!
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN BEFORE AND AFTER THE CONVENTION!
Posted by: Debra | August 27, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
“Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, an Obama supporter, said Clinton’s challenge in getting her delegates to come on board with Obama “may be the biggest test of her leadership.”
Posted by: geevill | Aug 27, 2008
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Really?! A New Concept of democracy from the Temple of Doom on top of Mile High!
Posted by: fact check | August 27, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
And it came to pass that the national anthem was played and the ONE placed his hands over the wrong place. Some wanted to stone him, but his followers rose up and said “ye who have not fondled yourself, cast the first stone”. Thus he was spared and he traveled the land, speaking to the crowds while often raising his head heavenward, as tho getting cues. And yea tho he walketh in the shadow of Wright, his charisma is great, and he plodeth on to achieve stardom. Then came a great gathering of the faithful in the west, and lo and behold, the appointed ONE came forth from the Greek temple, saying “A light will shine down… from somewhere. It will light upon you. You will experience an epiphany… “. The crowd rejoiced and awaited the blessed event, and waited, and waited, and waited, and…….
Posted by: Billw | August 27, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
McCaskill is absurd, she best get her “LEADERSHIP” ship shape and tell Obuma he is toast in NOVEMBER! Hang with the loser Claire, you are hoodwinked and bamboozled! You are not smart enough to chose a superior leader like Hillary. Did you not SEE the crowds at the convention hang on her every word, the standing ovations the tears, the pride the love, the respect!! Are you blind?
Posted by: HP Boston | August 27, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
BillW – I needed that laugh! ROFLMAO!
PUMA!
Posted by: LeeLee07 | August 27, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
PROFILE OF A LOSER
Obama scams Clinton out of the nomination (not vetted re Wright until after the first 9 primaries), dumps her as VP, and then turns the responsibility of uniting the party over to her at Denver. I’d say he’s a shallow man.
Posted by: Billw | August 27, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
LeeLee07:
YEA!!! Bless you and the horse you rode in on.
Posted by: Billw | August 27, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Paul…Last comment, Harry Jaffe was a press secretary for Patrick Leahy, (D) began reporting in Vermont later worked for the SAN FRANCISCAN EXAMINER, again a ultra liberal paper even by our California standards, describes McCain behavior one day in the Senate chambers and you infer that McCain is a Senator Hothead..Do you honestly believe that this is an objective view from objective reporting given the reporter’s history? I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING RUSH LAME-BLAUH references because he is clearly conservative to the ninth degree..IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE PERSONAL BEHAVIOR I AM SURE THAT YOU CAN FIND SOMEONE TO DEBATE WITH. I PREFER POLICY, VOTING RECORD, AND EXPERIENCE AND OBAMA JUST DOESN’T QUALIFY FOR ME
Posted by: CuriousIndep | August 27, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm