By Hope Ditto

Aug 11, 2008 9:22am

The Note: Ex-Rivals Still Plague Obama

ABC News’ Rick Klein reports in Monday’s Note: It’s supposed to be Sen. Barack Obama’s moment on the podium — so why are the cameras trained on those who captured the silver and the bronze?

To the winner goes the spoils — and this is fresh: With Denver approaching, and party unity elusive anyway, Obama’s drama now includes the accumulated baggage of his failed opponents. (Surely he didn’t think he could escape them in Hawaii. . . . )

Former Clinton strategist Mark Penn’s words will live longer than his career in presidential politics: "I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values," Penn wrote in an e-mail he thought was private, recording the words Republicans won’t have to utter, per the bombshell scoop by The Atlantic’s Joshua Green.

"Let’s explicitly own ‘American’ in our programs, the speeches, and the values. He doesn’t," Penn wrote. "His roots to basic American values and culture are at best limited."

(You may recall, as Politico’s Jonathan Martin reminds us, McCain’s now-abandoned tagline: "John McCain: The American president Americans have been waiting for.") 

Read the rest of The Note — and get all the latest on the 2008 election, Congress, the White House and the wide world of politics every day — from Rick Klein by bookmarking this link.

Then there’s John Edwards — confirming his narcissism in spectacular fashion, and doing Obama the courtesy of acknowledging his affair and lying in time to make sure he won’t be within a few hundred miles of Denver in two weeks. 

But not necessarily making all the questions go away: There won’t be a paternity test, yet Edwards still has a timeline problem.

"Some people close to the woman involved, Rielle Hunter, say they believe Edwards is still not telling the whole truth — in particular, on the key point of whether campaign money was used to give Edwards’ mistress a job," ABC’s Brian Ross reported on "Good Morning America" Monday. "With no previous filmmaking experience, Hunter was paid $114,000 by Edwards’ political action committee to produce a series of films for the Internet, that included many scenes of the two in flirtatious banter."

Said Hunter friend Pigeon O’Brien: "The affair began long, long, long before she was hired to work for the campaign — almost half a year before she was hired to work on those videos."

And here are the Edwards and Clinton storylines crashing together: If Edwards had come clean (or been caught outright) last year, "I believe we would have won Iowa, and Clinton today would therefore have been the nominee," former Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson tells ABC’s Brian Ross and Jake Tapper.

Continue reading today’s Note by clicking HERE.

ABC News’ Hope Ditto and Amanda Temple contributed to this report.

User Comments

My problem with Barack Obama is the fact that as president, he will name at least one and probably two Supreme Court justices. As much as I’d like to see abortion kept legal, I have a bigger concern. McCain promises to appoint judges who will decide cases based on the constitution and laws are they are written. Obama has said that he wants judges who are “more sympathetic” to people. To what people? Obama claims he does not favor affirmative action based on race or ethnicity. However, when Ward Connerly, a conservative black man in Michigan, tried to get laws passed to end affirmative action a couple of years ago, Obama taped radio ads opposing him and arguing for affirmative action. Obama also avoids the topic of reparations. However, his radical black church calls for reparations, and I believe Obama agrees with that position. Otherwise, why would he consistently avoid the subject when asked? As Rush Limbaugh says, people who support reparations want to take money from people who never owned slaves, and give it to people who never were slaves. For this reason, above all, I am voting Republican for the very first time in my life, not only for President but for every other office on the ballot. As a Democrat, I do not want to see my own party in power. The Democrats are unable to win a national election without the overwhelming support of the black community. If it takes more affirmative action, reparations, etc. to keep the black community onboard, the Democrats will do it, regardless of its effect on other groups. I am afraid I am done with the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Edith Lenore | August 11, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

You have to love when people us the ‘IF’ like they can predict what would have happened otherwise.
The ‘accumulated baggage of his failed opponents’ – is exactly the point. History will remember Obama’s achievements, not Clinton and Edwards’ shortcomings.

Posted by: Deep Release | August 11, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Edwards no. Hillary maybe thinking that Obama supporters are more pragmatic than her’s, and she would be correct, but perhaps we would find a more pragmatic candidate, than her,

Posted by: Thinking | August 11, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

“John McCain: The American president Americans have been waiting for.”
Is that a shot from the McCain campaign at Bush?

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am

I agree with an above post. Come October, no one will remember Edwards, and Clinton will be a distant thought.
This election is about the candidates still running.

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

People are doing the smart thing – having second thoughts about barack obama.

Posted by: brigitte | August 11, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

They are napping right now Paul.
Edwards has done nothing worse than McCain and he is running for president. 2 faced people are the only ones trying to blow this up in Obamas face. McCain is not going to say a word.

Posted by: beck | August 11, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

The Supreme Court is exactly why I am voting for Obama. McCain has already said that he wants to appoint conservative justices. Who knows what direction this country will take in the next 20 plus years with a conservative Supreme Court.

Posted by: erin | August 11, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Edith: I am not one who gets upset when people disagree. I am all for what you saying. What I am upset about is the protection that McCain is getting from the media. I find it misleading when the media keeps saying “we know McCain because he has been around for years” but we don’t know Obama. To be honest, I did not know anything about McCain tell I started my check list of pros and cons. I am sure there are many young and new voters who do not know this man. I would just like the media to step up and do their job. I also have to say I truly miss Tim Russert, I watched his show this weekend and I found it to be confusing and like every other news network. Still nothing on McCain from any of them. So no I do not need to grow up, I just need the media to be fair and to the point and stop these stupid articles that have nothing to do with us or our future.

Posted by: beck | August 11, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

FOB: “John McCain has said many times over the years that he would rather lose an election than win a war.”
He also said he’d rather lose an election than not give the American people the positive campaign we deserve.
Obviously that line was a lie. So how can we trust him on the one you quoted?

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

McCain earlier today released a prepared statement on the situation in Georgia. The first few paragraphs provide historical context.
They are almost word for word from Wikipedia. I say almost, but they inserted a historical mistake.
They went to historical Cliff Notes, and McCain’s campaign still screwed up.
John McCain – the best foreign policy experience (almost) Wikipedia has to offer.

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

The statement also differed significantly from McCain’s earlier statement on Georgia, in which he called for a peacekeeping force.
Another flip flop? Nah, just McCain being McCain.

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Maybe Obama used text messaging to try and stop the conflict.
Want to learn the real truth about Obama – read Obama Nation. I don’t see him disputing any of those facts. He is a very scary person.

Posted by: susie | August 11, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

The DNC decided four years ago that Barack Obama would be the next president of the United States. With victory for Democrats an almost certainly, they felt it was the perfect time to seal their bond with the African American community, and elect the first black President. Unfortunately, things went a little haywire – Reverend Wright, Rezko, a wife who isn’t proud of her country, flips flops galore, mispeaks and gaffes (“America is not what it once was, what it could be . .. . ”, undisguised arrogance, the famous Berlin “I want to be president of the world” appearance, etc. This kind of reminds me of my favorite summer show – Big Brother. Strategize to win the game, and watch it all fall apart because you absolutely can’t predict what people are going to do in this world. I’m loving this! This election is better than Survivor, and it’s hard to beat Survivor for sheer entertainment value!!

Posted by: Tiffany | August 11, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Does the call for ceasefire in Georgia;
Reminds us of Israel bombing the ish out of Lebanon, while Bush refused to call a cease fire, and European-UN looked on.
Reminds us of US UNPROVOKED ‘shock and awe’ of INNOCENT Iraqis, while European-UN looked on.
When powerful nations set bad example, then they lose credibility and moral authority to censure others with any seriousness.
Saakhasvili reminds us of the bungling bush: Each mindless set their nation on a path towards the abyss.
Georgians should agree to sack Saakhasvili and SUE FOR PEACE
It is just reckless and foolhardy to seek to encircle the Russian Bear.
The West is always trying to impose on Russians. WHY?
Napoleon and the French.
Hitler and the Germans.
Russia returned home after each successful defense.
Now Bush and his numskull neo-cons are again seeking to encircle Russians. Why?.
Europeans should leave Russians alone.

Posted by: Patriot | August 11, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Obama could have solved the Hillary problem very easily, and united the party, but instead.. he dissed her supporters, refuses to name her VP and thus the party stays divided. Imagine, if the two of them were out there TOGETHER defending one another on the vile media attacks lopped at each. Instead, there is still an “us vs them” mentality. As for Edwards, yeah, it smacks. And ironically, it hurts with the very group that supported Hillary. Older women. What a mess.

Posted by: Angry Democrat | August 11, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Now that Florida and Michigan will be seated fully, Obama has only 59 more pledged delegates than Clinton. She has more popular votes. Not only has he not won anything, they are pretty much tied until the superdelegates vote at the convention. So why are you not fully supporting the traditional convention where all the candidates’ names are in nomination and where all of the nominees are included in a roll-call vote? Why are you failing to support democracy in the Democratic Party?
Posted by: Keith | Aug 11, 2008 11:01:17 AM
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WHY????
Posted by: HP Boston | Aug 11, 2008 11:47:54 AM
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The answer is simple. It’s another John Edwards thing to help cover up for 0-bama.

Posted by: fact check | August 11, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

So it’s elitism to go to Hawaii. Why is that.

Posted by: erin | August 11, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

With all the baggage, all the flip-flops and lies, all the associations, and now the past rivals jumping on board, I don’t see Obama winning in November. It appears now that Clinton will have her roll call vote, which will divide the Dems even more. Sorry, Dems, this year will not be your year. Maybe in 2012, after the DNC has learned their lesson, let Hillary run and she will be the first woman President. Obama is toast….just the writing on the wall!

Posted by: david from texas | August 11, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Edith: I am not one who gets upset when people disagree. I am all for what you saying. What I am upset about is the protection that McCain is getting from the media.
Posted by: beck | Aug 11, 2008 10:52:03 AM
McCain and Clinton have been upset for the last 18 mos of the protection the media has given Obama! Wake up! It’s time for Obammy to be vetted….I’m very glad to see him falling in the polls and now has ALL this baggage and party division going against him. America does not want Obammy as POTUS.

Posted by: Will | August 11, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Will – if the media is protecting anyone, its McCain from his own words.

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Also, note how it used to be considered bad form for a presidential candidate to offer anything more than general comments about a developing crisis, for the reason of allowing the current president maximum flexibility.
Seems McCain got a little out in front of Bush on this one. Got out in front of himself, too. His statements Friday and today point toward different actions.
Hmmm. Just McCain being McCain I guess.

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

I think the media’s absence of getting the story out of Edwards during the primaries and now the realization that it hurt Hillary in Iowa, that this is going to be a MAJOR story. I can almost bet that the DNC, Pelosi, Dean, Reid, and Obama, himself, knew about Edward’s affair at this time, but kept the media quiet on it so that votes could be taken away from Hillary. If not, Hillary would be our nominee and she would have closed the deal on McCain. Now, we have this pawn, Obama, who is controlled by Pelosi and company….however, now, the DNC see that they have made a major mistake in “selecting” Obama…….it’s all going to blow up in their faces and McCain will be the next President of the United States.
This coming from a lifelong Democrat that is embarrased this year and will be forced to vote for McCain…but, NEVER, NEVER Obama!

Posted by: TimeCop | August 11, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Timecop: “I can almost bet that the DNC, Pelosi, Dean, Reid, and Obama, himself, knew about Edward’s affair at this time, but kept the media quiet on it so that votes could be taken away from Hillary.”
I’ll take that bet. From what I understand, Edwards own senior campaign staffers didn’t know.
Besides, look what you are saying. Everyone knew but Hillary? Sorry but that’s not credible, and the part about this conspiracy between everyone but Hillary to keep Edwards in the race so as to syphon off votes from Hillary is really out there.

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

We are looking forward to the First Obama and McCain debate in 8 weeks. I hope ABC will cover this debate. Voters want to hear about the issues between Obama and McCain not about Hillary and Edwards.

Posted by: Alex | August 11, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

What is the conflict about? Any of you McCain supporters have a good handle on that?
I’ll admit I don’t (though I think I know enough to see McCain also doesn’t know much).
Here’s what I know. When Georgia became independent, a couple smaller parts of Georgia didn’t want to be there. South Ossetia is one of them. It declared its independence in 1992.
Georgia has never recognized that independence but stayed out since, until last week.
That’s when Georgian forces rolled in, reclaiming South Ossetia, which happens to be comprised of mostly ethnically Russian people. Russian responded by defending South Ossetia, at least that’s what it says.
Then the accusations start flying. Russia says Georgia had U.S. advisors and was given a greenlight. South Ossetia says Georgian forces began a genocide in the capital. Georgia says the whole thing was Russian provocation.
We also have the backdrop of Russia’s centuries old paranoia, fueled in recent years by its former satellites being courted by NATO, and a strong dislike between the heads of Russia and Georgia.
What’s true and what isn’t? We’ll probably never get the whole story. One of the first casualties of war is the truth.

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Okay, done talking about real issues for a moment. Now go back to Edwards, Paris, Britney… whatever it is you were talking about.

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Just from reading posts for a couple of weeks, trying to get information on the candidates, it seems that more and more people are moving in support of John McCain. Even in the blogs, there seems to be a lot more support for Mr. McCain than Mr. Obama. I think Americans are indeed changing their minds and are going to vote for Mr. McCain.

Posted by: Geraldine Abshire | August 11, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

http://paxalles.blogs.com/paxalles/2008/08/ex-rivals-plagu.html

Ex-rivals plague Obama from Brian Ross’s The Note reports that Obamessiah has a number of ex-Judas and other assorted faux disciples to accomodate for the Denver convention – chiefly the Clintons – now that John Edwards has self-destructed – but

Posted by: PAXALLES | August 11, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Thanks for the article Eric.
That’s it. I’m not voting for Edwards (or any other adulterer).
Wait… didn’t McCain…?

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Lets make a list so we don’t forget who NOT to vote for:
Bill Clinton, Adultery
Edwards, Adultery
McCain, Adultery!
I see a pattern here….

Posted by: beck | August 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

We already know from the polls Americans would rather McCain be at the helm for all things regarding International Defense, so the Russia/Georgia conflict is another “plus” for McCain. Obama Nation should be required reading for all Obama supporters before voting. BO isn’t qualified to babysit my kids, let alone take over the WH. A guy who has served 143 days as a Senator, and been a “community organizer” biggest accomplishment removing asbestos from a bldg. America is waking up from the haze of the first American Idol Presidential nominee (if Hillary can’t miraculously get it).
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!
The most un-American, liberal, inexperienced, egomaniac Barack Hussein Obama NEVER!

Posted by: Deb | August 11, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Hey guys, another reason Hillary would have made a great CIC….no sexual thoughts AT ALL! She would have worked her a– off in that Oval Office (McCain at his age is of no concern, and his ex Carol, was amicable when the marriage dissolved).
Presidents/Power/Penis…..they all tie together.

Posted by: Deb | August 11, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Friday McCain wanted to send peacekeeping forces to Georgia. Today, no mention of that idea.
Was it because it wasn’t part of the Wikipedia article or did McCain’s position change?
Or… was it just McCain being McCain?

Posted by: Paul | August 11, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Deb: McCain has bad judgement right now. We do not need him in office. Today, he is trying to get us in a war with Russia.. He needs to shut up.

Posted by: beck | August 11, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Beck, Paul….sorry but the majority of Americans (from the polls) have more faith in McCain on issues of Nat’l. Security and Defense. That’s a fact…he has my vote and millions of others (evidence by the polls).

Posted by: Deb | August 11, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

How can you not support Obama?
but everyone in Germany loves Obama!! The news media says that this should be important somehow to a guy living in Detroit who has no job. Everyone in Germany loves David Hassellhoff.
I don’t see that Obama believes in anything other than being elected president. He says race should have no part of it, but he talks about it every chance he gets. He said he’s opposed to offshore drilling, but changed his mind when he saw his approval go down.
He’s now been caught up with 3 or 4 public speaking people who preach anti-semitic ideology. I wonder about him, and I’m not even going to go towards McCain’s weirdness.

Posted by: snipper | August 11, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Polls mean nothing. They change daily.

Posted by: gg | August 11, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Obama’s rivals for the nomination had a lot of questions about Obama’s qualifications to be President including Obama’s strong ties to anti-Americans, unrepentant terrorists and anti-Semites. Clinton supporters started to question whether these ties made Obama seem less than patriotic. Further many have come to believe that Obama is also guilty of the same egocentric and narcissistic traits Edwards personified when he said ” I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narissistic.” Unfortunately, Obama’s many lies and gaffes are not getting the mainstream media’s attention. Obama’s latest lie is Obama claim that the reason he voted against the bill in Illinois to protect infants born alive after an abortion was because it lacked a pre-birth neutrality provision. However Obama has just been caught in another lie. The National Rights Life Committee (NRLC) tracked the bill through its entire path and and discovered that the bill did have the codicil neutrality provision attached. Not only that then state Senator Obama presided over the Health and Human Services Commitee that was responsible for attaching the neutraliby revision, verbatim from the Federal Bill plus Obama voted in support of adding the amendment Immediatly after voting for this provision, however, Obama voted against the revised bill with the neutrality clause included. Clearly, Obama lied about his position. It’s no small rhetorical matter, either. Obama’s vote against this bill puts him on the extreme end of the pro-abortion camp,. Obama is so extreme on this issue that not a single member of Congress would follow his example. Obama voted to allow Christ Hospital and other facilities performing abortions to allow live children to die.

Posted by: harry | August 11, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

The Dems are imploding this year! They have too much baggage and the “selection” of a nominee is coming back to haunt them. I see Obama’s support declining. American’s are seeing the real Obama now and we don’t like him. I applaud Hillary for coming in, wanting a floor vote, and could possibly walk away witht he nomination. For America’s sake, I hope this happens! Whatever the case, the Dems are divided and will not win in November.
Welcome, President John McCain !

Posted by: TJ | August 11, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

It seems the National Press Corps is easily distracted and later consumed by the insignificant. Of course, reporting real news requires checks and balances and other added elements of work. Perish the thought, added work is to be avoided at all costs. The uninspired National Press Corps continues to lead the American public down the sink hole. Fortunately, there are others in the media who are doing the job right and in the better interests of the American public.

Posted by: Lou R | August 11, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

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