The Note: Obama Gets Aggressive on Energy
ABC News’ Rick Klein writes in Tuesday’s Note: When is the flop less dangerous than the flip? (When it costs $75 to fill up your Jeep.)
Who knows better than Bill Clinton what it takes to be a president? (Nobody — which is why evasion is interesting.)
What beats 200,000 screaming Germans? (Maybe 50,000 roaring Harleys — but were their tires inflated?)
What did Sen. Barack Obama really want for his birthday? (Hint — John Kerry knows, though Obama could have done without Kerry’s decision to label Sen. John McCain as “dangerous.”)
It’s energy week on the trail, and a second policy shift by Sen. Barack Obama hardly registers as a surprise. Both candidates are following the voters here — and they realize that there’s more peril in standing firm than in allowing a touch of policy flexibility into your thinking.
In the process, might conventional wisdom be shifting? Should we still be certain that sky-high gas prices will be a drag on Sen. John McCain — guilty by association with an oil-soaked GOP?
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A party looking for a new brand may be finding one with its new standard-bearer, along with an energized congressional contingent that’s found a winner, and a prop the GOP and its allies are quickly learning to love.
McCain, R-Ariz., visits a nuclear power plant outside Detroit on Tuesday — finding another area of distinction with Obama, D-Ill., on energy policy; Obama has two energy town halls in Ohio (and brings a new, sharper message).
“Energy has become a pivotal issue in this increasingly competitive election, as voters fret over high gas prices, which have hovered around $4 a gallon, and their impact on food and transportation costs,” Amy Chozick and Elizabeth Holmes write in The Wall Street Journal. “Sen. McCain has successfully seized on the issue to gain ground against Sen. Obama, who continues to lead in most polls.”
Obama is adjusting mid-course — and he’s fortunate that this is a story about energy, not about flip-flopping: “Obama’s proposal includes two reversals of positions he has taken in the past: He had fought the idea of limited new offshore drilling and was against tapping the nation’s emergency oil stockpile to relieve gasoline prices that have stubbornly hovered around $4 a gallon,” per USA Today’s write-up.
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ABC News’ John Santucci, Hope Ditto and Amanda Temple contributed to this report.
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“I’m strongly encouraged by Senator Obama’s speech on America’s energy future. Foreign oil is killing our economy and putting our nation at risk,” wrote T. Boone Pickens, a billionaire oil man.
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
From the above article: “Obama is adjusting mid-course — and he’s fortunate that this is a story about energy, not about flip-flopping.”
Strikes me as an odd characterization. Did Obama change positions? Yes. Did McCain change positions? Also yes.
ABC – Why just call out Obama?
And let’s not forget that McCain also changed positions on negative campaigning. He said we deserve better, and that he’d rather lose the election than not give us a positive campaign. Guess he wasn’t being honest with that one, huh?
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
ABC, — why are you focusing only on obama’s changes in position.
Mccain has changed his positions on numerous issues including energy. What’s going on here?
Posted by: Commonsense | August 5, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Obama lies about everything. The hyprocrosies show through the man evetytime. His inexperience is very telling. Lying, hypocrisies and inexperience, combined, lead him to indecisiveness. That’s why we keep seeing him posturing for political positions all the time. Obama is mostly about showmanship
Posted by: young_voter | August 5, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
It seems odd that Senator Obama gets both the negative coverage (flip flopping) and positive coverage (getting aggressive – I guess that’s positive). Isn’t there someone else who has equally flip flopped on this issue and gotten aggressive – Mc… something or other.
Posted by: jhw539 | August 5, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
ABC is focusing on Obama’s change in position because that is all he knows how to do well.
Obama lost me with that speech he gave in Germany. We are a young country and still have much to learn. However, to bash or own country to foreigns is inexcusable. As well as spewing out our faults – Obama should have also touted our positives. I am so tired of this empty suit. The whole europe show was just marketing.
Obama said he wanted to use Public financing but he opted out of that. Obama has been negative on McCain all summer.
Posted by: Frank- South Hampton | August 5, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
didn’t mcbush flip-flop on this issue at the end of june?
just asking?
why was it not reported?
Posted by: johnosahon | August 5, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
I like people who change their mind/positions. This shows that they are thinking. And its all about compare and contrast and not sticking on: Am right, am right, am right!
Posted by: Peace | August 5, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Hey Arrogant,
What is the last time you saw McCain get Europe to come out and rally behind the United States? Never.
You know what you see in Obama? It is called leadership.
Posted by: John's conscience | August 5, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Well, let’s put it this way. For those of you against a person who is willing to admit they were wrong and thus “flip-flop” to what the majority of Americans want, good thing you had Bush for the last 8 years. He stood by what he said and wanted to do no matter how wrong he was. He sure was no flip-flopper. And good thing…he has ensured that America has remained strong, both politically and economically.
Posted by: LOfromMO | August 5, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
Unfortunately, through this whole race, McCain has been getting a free ride from the press. It started with his two spiritual advisor who hated gays, to memory slips on worls leaders. I guess they want to give the “old guy” a little leeway…
Posted by: thoughtful | August 5, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
What is wrong with the canidates changing their minds with the changing of situations we have had a president for the last 7 years be a my way or the highway unwilling to compromise unwilling to change with changing events is that what you people want another president stubborn like bush LOOK AT WHERE THAT GOT US!! it would be wrong to not change your mind depending on the situation enough with the FLIP FLOP THATS OLD POLITICTS!!!!!!!!
Posted by: angie | August 5, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I don’t think labeling Senator McCain as dangerous is off the mark not when you consider his postions on matters of national security and his lack of understanding of economic issues. He continues to promote old ideas that have been cast aside by even our current President. He seems confused when talking about the Sunni and Shia and Kurds in Iraq and his way of dealing with Iran is to sing a song titled, “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran”. Oh, and don’t forget that he has ignored the problems in Afghanistan up until now. Circumstances there have been bad for at least a year. And, He admits he knows little about ecomomics and yes, he can hire experts, but if he can’t grasp what they are saying who is going to make these very important decisions regarding our economy? The term- take advantage of comes to mind.
Frankly, this country can’t go through another 4 years of policies so closely in line with President Bush’s. And, when you consider all of the above, I think Kerry was right on the mark.
Please stop playing defense for McCain.
Posted by: MAC | August 5, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
To me, the most eggregious flip flop of the entire campaign cycle has been McCain previously saying:
The American people deserve a positive campaign for president, and I’d rather lose the election than give them anything less…
And running the kind of childish and even dishonorable campaign he has been since saying those words.
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Mac: “I don’t think labeling Senator McCain as dangerous is off the mark not when you consider his postions on matters of national security and his lack of understanding of economic issues.”
Let’s not give McCain any passes – that’s the media’s job. Let’s call him out for the ignorant comments he’s made on national security and foreign affairs, too.
The conventional wisdom is these were all ‘mispeaks,’ and some even see them as signs of dementia. But what if he really doesn’t know anything much about these issues, too?
The growing view of McCain is one who sees things in simplistic terms; no shades of gray. The question I have is whether he bothers to learn the details underlying those simplistic views?
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Maybe someone should run an ad that says:
Low-road John; he was against negative campaigning before he was for it. But the question remains what else is McCain for? We know he’s against losing. We know he’s against anyone than him being the next president. We know he’s against properly inflating your tires. But what’s he for? Oh, right, an oil spill off every beach.
Would it be a completely fair ad? No. Does the McCain campaign deserve fair ads? No.
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
McCain has certainly gone on the attack, but I wouldn’t call it “low road”. It’s a bit humorous, and meant to point out flaws without pure negativity. Were Obama running these ads people would be raving how funny they are.
That said, Obama’s race baiting is negative politics par excellance.
Funny how things turn out. The “post-racial” nominee turns out to be the “race baiter” nominee.
Posted by: JA | August 5, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Aggressive? It’s pathetic.
After this much hypes, all this empty headed phony could come up with is 1 million, less than 0.77% of current number of vehicles on the road, electric plug-in hybrids, 10% of corn energy, and making you to keep your house 15% colder in the winter of Maine, and 15% hotter in Florida.
Did he tell you the electricity he wants you to run the pathetic 0.77% plug-ins is generated by burning coals and natural gas?
Yuk, do you know what that gives you? Aside from 80% less efficient than directly using gasoline?
It’s a phony to the bone policy, directly aired out from a clueless empty suit.
Posted by: fact check | August 5, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
“making you to keep your house 15% colder in the winter of Maine, and 15% hotter in Florida.
Did he tell you the electricity he wants you to run the pathetic 0.77% plug-ins is generated by burning coals and natural gas?”
“making you”
I don’t think he is forcing it. Its more like an urge to the Americans. Its like the old war poster…”I want YOU to save some resources.”
but he needs to flip flop for nuclear energy and he needs to flip flop about 1 million hybrids. 1 million FCX are an investment…hybrids will be useless when the gas is 8 bucks. Even though your mileage will be double, so will the gas prices be. It will be exactly like present day situation. FCX = $21600 right now. We just need to help them get more H2 fuel stations all around US. 127 horsepower sucks but a little more than Prius at 110 and way more useful for energy situation.
Posted by: Sean | August 5, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
New creation by Gov. Richardson, 0bama’s chief energy adviser:
Carbon clean coal energy!
Yup, coals that will not produce CO2!!!
That explains why 0bama is so hyped to use electricity generated by burning coals to pump your electric plug-ins for his long-term energy strategy.
Posted by: fact check | August 5, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
I don’t think he is forcing it. Its more like an urge to the Americans.
Posted by: Sean | Aug 5, 2008
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I see. In other words, it’s a phony policy to reduce 15% in your energy consumption. Then, one of his three long-term energy strategy is down to the toilet before his polluted air has cleaned itself.
Posted by: fact check | August 5, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
JA – I disagree, obviously. Its a completely negative campaign to the point of making McCain seem obsessed with Obama. But I guess its all in the eyes of the beholder. I wonder how other independents will see it.
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
fact check – seems like you seem determined to not like Obama’s plan no matter what it says. Sorry if that’s unfair, but that is the way you come across.
T. Boone Pickens seems to like it, and he’s one of the guys who financed the swiftboating of Kerry four years ago, so I doubt he’s predisposed to favor Democrats.
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
fact check: “Because the emptyhead sells you that he is a new kind of politics, and you believe in him…”
Obama supporters don’t believe he’s above politics. That’s just another attack line that originated with angry Clinton supporters, who couldn’t understand why she was losing to this guy.
We know he’s a politician. He just seems better than the ones he’s been up against the last year-plus. That’s all.
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Paul,
It’s not that I determined I dislike his plan. It is simply because it is no plan, it’s pathetic, yet he hyped it up as if you will be oil independent by the end of his first term.
There are too many holes he is too empty to fill.
Maybe you should vote for him since he has just promised you to give you $1000 if he is elected. He said he will take the money from the oil companies and divide it and give it to you.
Is that what you are looking for in a president?
Posted by: fact check | August 5, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
fact check: “It’s not that I determined I dislike his plan. It is simply because it is no plan, it’s pathetic…”
Again, I guess its in the eyes of the beholder. And again, Pickens seemed to like it. Some of Obama’s benchmarks struck me as aggressive.
For me, the important aspect is Obama’s interest in renewable energy. McCain’s interest seems to be in petroleum. There’s some overlap between them, but its a question of priorities, and for me the top priority is renewable energy.
We all know we’re going there some day. We all know oil is running out, some day. So why not use this current situation to start moving toward a long-term working solution rather than perpetuating the current petroleum-based energy infrastructure?
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
And fact-check, are you saying you liked the detail and content of McCain’s plan?
Because despite your protests not to be predisposed against Obama, I sure don’t remember you railing against McCain’s plan.
Posted by: Paul | August 5, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
That’s ok Paul..Repub’s are used to Dem’s double-talk……………
Posted by: REPUB | August 5, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Obama didn’t flip-flop on oil drilling. He said he open to it on the basis of a comprehensive engergy plan where there is more of an emphasis on alternative energy and limited off-shore drilling.
He’s not in full support of oil drilling, but he is willing to compromise in order for the alternative energy bill proposals to pass through Congress.
McCain is the one who did a full-throttled flip-flop, and he was rewarded handsomely from major oil companies to the tune of $2 million.
Posted by: Jennifer | August 5, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
“We all know we’re going there some day. We all know oil is running out, some day. So why not use this current situation to start moving toward a long-term working solution rather than perpetuating the current petroleum-based energy infrastructure? ”
Nah, we are going to wait down until the last drop of oil is left. That’s when we will panic and ask for change. Right now we are good with McDrill screwing us over.
Paul, I agree with you and I support Obama’s plan. He is pushing for renewable resources or less dependency on oil but not on other fossil fuels. What I also want him to do is push for nuclear power too.
McCain’s energy plan is nothing new. Why need a new guy in the office? Bush is doing the same too…he is also opening up more drilling sites. This is not a solution to energy problems. To be honest some people just hate change or some people are so old that they won’t change.
Posted by: Sean | August 5, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
I think it is great.. Bush is taking Obamas ideas and running with them this past 3 weeks (he must be skipping his golf games). They are now going to study Shell-Shock and start helping our men in women in uniform. Lets see what else can we complain about and get!!!! We must just have to yell loud and long to get the repubs awake.
Posted by: beck | August 5, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Paul,
I said it yesterday. For a long-term policy, a plan for the future of energy in the next 50 or 100 years, I can careless of the exact details. When you come down to the tiny bits of less than 0.77% of gasoline consumption, 10% of corn energy, not to mention you already have been rationed at WalMart, and reducing your 15% of energy usage (wait until you need to hook up your next home theatre, unless you want to stay in a living standard of the future third world), you, but particularly the empty suit who sells you this, missed the big picture.
I said to you that they are good, and I have no problems, and everyone, McCain, HRC will all do, and especially private sectors will do to earn money (hopefully not to be taken away by 0bama) and to develop new technology. However, all of these add together does not do a dent to the energy need 50 years from now.
You seem to be satisfied by this tiny bits and pieces, missing the big picture of how you can produce 70% of the energy need, without relying on oil or fossil fuel.
You need to understand that “renewable energy”, including solar, wind, aqua, corns, will not exceed 20% of the total energy need. Your political Jesus is only fooling you on this small piece of the pie.
You need to go where McCain went today to produce the energy that will make this country continue to be competitive in 50 years. That means you need to call for a big picture, by Developing Nuclear Energy Technology to Solve Oil(fossil fuel)-Dependence Once for All.
Posted by: fact check | August 5, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Senator Obama has been distorting Senator McCain position on the energy crises. Yet he does not tell the truth about his own. To tax oil companies because of their profit at 7% is asinine. Why does he not want to tax pharmaceuticals at their 42% profit? He is trying to tax the oil companies and give money back for vote buying. Even a 6th grader can understand that.
Posted by: Martin | August 5, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Obama is aggessive? Ways to work away from energy dependence on oil have been known for a long time, what he is doing is trying to remind people.
Jimmy Carter suggested we raise mileage on our vehicles. The Big Three whined, Carter was defeated, and now many of us buy high mileage cars made by other countries.
Obama suggested we consider trains – citizens have been trying to get more mass transportation infrastructure for some time. But well that’s not sexy enough I guess, American rail infrastructure decays while the government invests selectively in the roads and the airports. Culturally we have car ads crammed down our throats 24×7. You aren’t withit and successful unless you drive the latest low mileage muscle car.
Sad to say it seems that it took high prices for people to begin to consider mass transit and conservation. We can look to Europe and Asia for fine examples of high speed mass transit.
It’s decidedly foolish that George Bush after 9/11 didn’t initiate a national program (like the space race) to get the US off foreign oil. Instead big oil and defense contractors grow wealthy at the Iraq and Afghanistan tax payer financed debacles.
Posted by: citizen voter | August 5, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Citizen Voter- great comments!! I lived in Europe for 4.5 years. Their rail transit system puts ours to shame. No one wants to talk about rail except when they choose to criticize the Amtrak subsidies. Keep posting. It helps to keep readers like me (this is my second post ever) motivated that we have a brighter future.
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