The Obama Overreach: Refuting A Few of Corsi’s Smears By Re-Writing History

“Much of what Corsi writes in his book is demonstrably false, irresponsible, and feverishly conjured. The book is indefensible, as are Corsi’s many bigoted remarks about Arabs, the Pope and others.
But the Obama campaign got a little greedy in their refutations.”
So let’s attack Obama then?

To say that this screed is not connected to the ‘Bush/Cheney Attack Machine’ is to ignore the anti-Kerry effort that gave this guy his notariety, and to ignore the right wing institutions that back both of them (backing Corsi by buying his books in bulk to make them look like best-sellers). It is the same group.

The refutations that Obama’s camp stretches the truth on, don’t compare to the outright blasphemous, libelous, prejudiced, bigoted and downright false smears put forth by Corsi. What a slimeball Corsi is. The frightening thing is enough people are dumb enough to buy this waste of paper that it ends up #1 on the NYT Bestseller list. People have to be smarter than this, right?

Corsi has also written anti-McCain articles. He disagrees with him on immigration policy, and believes McCain and/or his aides have a “Mexico First” policy.

mesq,
By saying “Bush/Cheney attack machine”, they are implying that Bush/Cheney are responsible for this. And, by further extension of their logic, since Bush=McCain, McCain is also to blame.
Spin it as you wish, it was dishonest and despicable, not to mention reckless.
I’m sure that the “Bush/Cheney attack machine” would not hire someone who WANTS BUSH IMPEACHED. THINK.

Rule to live by #128: If someone publishes a slanderous, falsehood-ridden book about your life in an attempt to sabotage your career advancement along with the hopes of all your supporters… don’t be too mean when you confront them about it.
I mean, sure, they lied, and shifted the discussion away from the real issues and slandered you in public. But that doesn’t mean you have to be RUDE!
/sarcasm
Corsi forfeited any right to a polite response when he chose to be a slanderous liar in the first place. Apologizing doesn’t hack it. He has no right to polite treatment. He is apparently incapable of it himself. Civility is a 2 way street, quid pro quo. Don’t allow it to happen, leave the myriad falsehoods unchallenge, but then complain about a lack of civility when it suits you.

But most of the flaws Corsi states Obama has are flat out fabrications. I would hate to elect or not elect someone based on a lie.

Kerry ignored man and lost the election.
Many here and elsewhere will say Obama is too soft. Even your die-hard Republicans on this blog will say that If Obama doesn’t respond he will not win.
Consensus is that Obama hadn’t gone negative enough; it is what the public wants.

Obama can come up with a 41 page response to this book, and you can can up with a couple of things, that at best is a matter of opinion, that he over reached.

This is a lot like the National Enquirer and the Edwards affair. Since parts of it were made up or lies Edwards claimed it was all not true and the national mainstream media did not touch the story. Since there is so much of this book that is false or just speculation the Obama camp is trying to debunk the book as a whole. There are some truths in the book that are quite disturbing and that people should look at and realize who Obama really is.

Soetoro Check McCain’s record on voting against almost every Veterans Bill that comes up for a vote, and he says he’s all for the vet’s but votes against the bills necessary to do that. Yea I’ll vote for anyone but “Songbird” McCain.

Typo’s corrected:
There is little truth in this book so writing an article about it gives this more importance than that piece of garbage deserves.
I hope Obama sues both the author and publisher for spreading false information and trying to influence the presidential campaign with LIES.
If it is untrue for the most part, there is very little truth and the true part is not derogatory, but the false statements should make them liable.
Enough media spin, get real here that joker needs to be put in jail for distributing fales and misleading information..

How do we know that the GOP didn’t slip a little money to Corsi so he would attack Obama?

Much of what Corsi writes in his book is demonstrably true, responsible and factually conjured
His reasons for writing the book are clearly outlined:
“While Obama’s three complete years in the Senate have given him remarkably little time on the national political stage, we still have enough information from his slim Senate record, as well as his years in the Illinois state legislature, to see a pattern of voting on the far left on a wide range of policy issues, including abortion, taxes, illegal immigration, international trade, and national security.”
Obama’s resume IS notoriously slim. It’s chinks are chunked out not by actions or facts, but by Obama’s two books of hype and hope…..
Many of his long term associates have questionable characters, and some of his beliefs… like the one on late term and partial abortion.. are repugnant to some (like me!).
Much of the information in Corsi’s book has been validated, but you can opt to dismiss it should you wish.
After all, it’s only “words….. just words”…..

Why isn’t the FACT that Obama attended a racist, Anti-American church for 20 years enough to question his judgement, values, and patriotism.
Had Obama been the politician that he claims to be–the one that transcends race and loves this country why didn’t he have the courage to leave long ago?
He lost me with the Rev. Wright fiasco and the many lies he told afterwards.

“The Republicans are unbelieveably slimy. ”
Does this mean that all Democrats are squeaky clean?
While I will acknowledge that a lot of them are squeaky, I wouldn’t presume to assume that you can lasso in on a person’s degee of sliminess just by his
choice of a political party.
It might tell you a tad about his intelligence…. but his sliminess?????
Naaah!

Obama is an empty page upon which words, just words, can be written. The press tried to write their own biased narrative about him, so why can’t Corsi do the same?! Equal opportunity! I believe Corsi more than I believe the myth that BO is. Hey, his book is a best seller. Words, just words – take notes, voters!

The Gallup daily tracking poll showed Barack Obama and John McCain tied at 44 percent Friday for the third time in two weeks. Perhaps this book served its purpose? I wonder if the traction will last beyond the convention? In a way I’m glad it came out during the Olympics. The real action starts after labor day. Right now I think Americans care more about Michael Phelp and his chance of wining a seventh gold metal tonight. If he does Americans will remember him more the Jerome Corsi or Bigfoot!

Obama proved he knows how to use lawyers when he hauled them out to block a re-vote in FL and MI. If the book is libelous, he needs to sue Corsi. If he doesn’t – and I’m betting he doesn’t want to go there – he needs to quit his whining.
And someone tell him to quit demanding McCain denounce everything. I’ve never seen anything like this Obama Drama campaign where everyone has to come out and defend Obama’s honor.

Thinking, no it is not attacking Obama it simply saying that his campaign claimed that it was ALL lies when it is not. I know Alice Palmer and jpt is right Obama pretty much stabbed her in the back and got lawyers to fight her for the nomination. But I am finding that the obamabots don’t think much at all. They are on auto pilot with their defense of the chosen one.

“They are on auto pilot with their defense of the chosen one.”
You can say that again.

Barack Obama is nothing more than a racist elitist that is created by the liberal media.
The American public is starting to see the real Obama and his polling is dropping like a piano off a ledge.

“but jake, it seems like you spent far more space on the obama camp’s overzealous defense today than you did on corsi’s patently false attacks yesterday. what’s up with that?”
What is wrong with jpt bringing it up? Good for him.

There is something different about trying to swiftboat Obama versus what happened to Kerry 2004.
More people coming to his defense for one. The new anti-smear web site funded by Kerry’s political action committee is very effective. The media was very quick in pointing out the inaccuracies of the book. The book itself seems to be flying off the shelves to the ones who were not going to vote for Obama anyway. Right now the Democrat convention will take the air right out of Jerome Cori’s attack. Jerome fifteen minutes of fame for this election cycle will be up soon. Right now I just started reading Harry Potter and I’m more concerned about Harry’s struggle against the evil wizard Lord Voldemort, who killed Harry’s parents in his quest to conquer the Wizarding world, after which he seeks to subjugate the Muggle world to his rule :-D

Has anyone actually read the book?
Everything is pretty much documented with 600+ footnotation. No matter how Obama tries to spin it, most stuff in it is TRUE.
When the ads come out by the 527′s in October, Obama’s a goner.

What has Obama ever accomplished legislatively?
NOTHING
I’m voting “PRESENT”……Barack Obama

The only landslide I’m seeing is Obama falling off a cliff. Have you seen the new Gallup poll just out? Obama is in deep, deep trouble.

That there are still Republicans on this blog claiming that Senator Obama attended a “racist and anti-American” Church for 20 years is some proof of how dangerous a book like Corsi’s can be in the hands of the ignorant.
Having lived through the Kerry campaign, when JFK didn’t hit back hard or soon enough on the Swift Boat Liars for Bush, because he underestimated the gullibility of American Voters, I am thrilled that Senator Obama is hitting back hard and fast.
As to Palmer, it seems to me she gave up her opporunity to run when she chose to seek the other office, and was the one who was at fault when she tried to renege on supporting Obama.
Ultimately, these smears did not work for Hillabeans, and they won’t work for McShame.
Obama 2008 — Yes, WE CAN!!!

Have you noticed the electoral map, you know the count that actually choses whom wins the presidency?
Obama leads 304 to McCain 234.
McCain “is in deep, deep trouble”

Gallup Daily: McCain, Obama Tied at 44%
Obama’s support down slightly
August 15, 2008
John McCain and Barack Obama are tied at 44% in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking report of registered voters’ presidential preferences. These numbers reflect a slight drop in Obama’s support compared with what it has been thus far in August.

when did lying become “overreach”?

Mr. Corsi has done a good job exposing Obama’s lies. Other than the incredible accusations against Mr. Corsi, you have done a good job in this article, showing that Obama is dishonest.

Corsi speculates that Obama strategist David “Axelrod most likely liked how the speech worked with his client in Massachusetts and so decided to try it once again with Obama, perhaps thinking no one would notice.”
ANYONE WITH A WORKING BRAIN WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

Comparing this book with Bigfoot shows the bias of the mainstream Media. Let the books allegations stand or fall on it’s own merits.

Why does ABC News hate Obama? Could it be that Obama supports the middle-class and ABC News is made up of rich, conservative white males, who, like John McCain, love attacking the workingclass anyway they can? We should keep in mind that the reporters for ABC News make more money and are richer than 99% of the American people. They are as remote from the reality of the average American as McBush himself is.

I am buying the book “The Obama Nation”.. Yeah!

Kaite, thats gotta be the worst idea ever. Wait until November when its remaindered, you can get it for a dime.

The book will cost Obama some supporters. His lead is slowly eroding, and the debates will likely set the final trend. Judging from the past where he refused debating, it appears he knows it is not his strong point. We shall see.

Jake – Ask Obama to answer the following questions to clear up votes probably from half the population of the US.
Did you register with the U.S. Selective Service when you turned 18?
Why did you NOT list your adopted name Barry Soetoro on any forms associated with your legal profession or others that ask for any other names you have ever used before? Have you now or will you update these records?
Have you ever held as a youth or adult, citizenship in another country?
Did you ever possess or travel using, at least in part, the passport of another country (while in Indonesia, visiting Pakistan or Kenya)?
Can you confirm or deny your name change as a youth from Barack Hussein Obama II to Barry Soetoro when you were adopted by your step-father?
Did you legally reclaim your birth name? When and how?

If you ask whether it’s possible for
Hilly to steal the bacon in Denver,
the answer is………….of CORSI !!!

jackt:
“As to Palmer, it seems to me she gave up her opporunity to run …”
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When it comes to Obama, it’s ALWAYS the other person’s fault.
As for the “Hillary Smears”… obviously they worked!

Corsi’s approach to politics is both destructive and self-destructive. If Senator Obama loses, he should lose on the merits: his record in public life and his political philosophy. And while it’s legitimate to take into account Obama’s past associations with people like the Reverend Jeremiah Wright -especially for someone like Obama, about whom relatively little is known- it’s wrong and reckless to throw out unsubstantiated charges and smears against Senator Obama.
Conservatism has been an intellectual home to people like Burke and Buckley. The GOP is the party that gave us Lincoln and Reagan. It seems to me that its leaders ought to make it clear that they find what Dr. Corsi is doing to be both wrong and repellent. To have their movement and their party associated with such a figure would be a terrible thing and it will only help the cause of those who hold both the GOP and the conservative movement in contempt,

Back in the day, John McCain was the sort of politician who would stand first in line to call out this sort of swill. (As, I’m sure Barack Obama or John Kerry would do, if some hate-crazed, money-grubbing left-winger published a book claiming that McCain had been successfully brainwashed in Vietnam–as Kerry did indeed do when a group of spurious Bush-backing Vietnam vets tried to claim exactly that about McCain during the 2000 Republican primary in South Carolina.)
But we’re not seeing those sorts of claims being made about McCain this year…because Democrats tend not to do that sort of thing. They are the sorts of claims that Republicans–Bush Republicans–make.

A few months ago John McCain floated the intriguing idea of subjecting himself as president to unscripted “question time”-style grillings before the Congress. The notion tickled the fancy of even many a liberal McCain critic.
Now that McCain’s staff has cut off nearly all his spontaneous interactons with the media, it might be time to reconsider the seriousness of this pledge. I know campaigns demand extreme message discipline–but it’s not like a president is immune from gaffes either. If McCain beats Obama with his current tight-lipped approach, it’s a hard to imagine him switching right back to his old freewheeling ways.

Obama trying to change history. Obama now has his own religion called Matthew 25. Nothing surprises me anymore what this cult leader is capable of.

Change we can believe in! Yes We Can!
Obama/Soetoro 08′

Back in the day, John McCain was the sort of politician who would stand first in line to call out this sort of swill. (As, I’m sure Barack Obama or John Kerry would do, if some hate-crazed, money-grubbing left-winger published a book claiming that McCain had been successfully brainwashed in Vietnam–as Kerry did indeed do when a group of spurious Bush-backing Vietnam vets tried to claim exactly that about McCain during the 2000 Republican primary in South Carolina.)
But we’re not seeing those sorts of claims being made about McCain this year…because Democrats tend not to do that sort of thing. They are the sorts of claims that Republicans–Bush Republicans–make.
And the Democrats lose because the media always holds them to a higher standard, while the Republicans claim they are the standard-bearers of the “heartland” and Christian family values.
Right.

Well, FINALLY: the truth comes out in popular form — this blog — on Alice Palmer, on General McPeak (whose idea it was to bomb Iraqi sanitary, water, and electric facilities during the long years between Bush wars I and II, close enough to “collective punishment” that one hardly cares whether he harbors realistic views on AIPAC hacks), and on David Axelrod’s passing around his prose pieces to all the “post-partisans” in his stable of initially-adorable, soon crappy, candidates.

“And yes, I do have higher expectations of them.”

all of this will be mute when it is shown that bho is not eligible to be potus….now that will be sweet!

Obama trying to change history. Obama now has his own religion called Matthew 25. Nothing surprises me anymore what this cult leader is capable of.
Posted by: pickler | Aug 16, 2008 12:12:33 AM
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Ah, a Corsi protege’. Matthew 25 is not Obamas “own religion” as you called it. It’s a political action committee, religious outreach.

so what will happen at the roll call vote when neither bho or hillary get the required votes?…..guess the super-delegates decide the race…isn’t that what all the party big shots did not want to happen?

Remember when Thomas Holtz-Eakin, John McCain’s top economic advisor, said, essentially, that what John McCain says on the stump does not speak for the John McCain campaign?
He also disputes the way the study takes suggestions McCain has made on the stump out of context. “This is parsing words out of campaign appearances to an unreasonable degree,” Holtz-Eakin said. “He has certainly I’m sure said things in town halls” that don’t jibe perfectly with his written plan. But that doesn’t mean it’s official.
No, because that would be crazy talk, for the candidate to actually express his own official policies on the campaign trail.
And then shortly thereafter, it was McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds’s turn to make essentially the same case as he directly contradicted John McCain’s assertion on This Week that raising the payroll tax is “on the table.”
From Think Progress:
When Fox host Megyn Kelly insisted Bounds stop “waffling” and answer whether a tax increase was “on the table,” Bounds replied, “No”:
KELLY: Might the Social Security tax go up? Is that on the table?
BOUNDS: No, Megyn, there is no imaginable circumstance where John McCain would raise payroll taxes. It’s absolutely out of the question.
Kelly remarked that Bounds seemed to be promoting a different opinion from his candidate. When Bounds said that he agreed with Holtz-Eakin, Kelly interjected, “But you’re guy doesn’t agree with him.” “No,” Bounds seemed to admit.
This disconnect between the candidate’s rhetoric and the reality of the campaign has been evident in other ways as well, say in how divergent McCain’s campaign’s tactics have been from his stated pledge to run a “respectful campaign.” But amazingly, instead of holding John McCain accountable for his own lapses, his own confusion and his campaign’s fall from any standards he may or may not have once held himself to, John McCain’s pals at Hardball have a different explanation altogether. You have to see it to believe it

TR
the party faithful(Pelosi) solved nothing buy forcing the SDs to commit way before the convention it will still be a close vote … the vote count estimated in the rules&bylaws committee is invalid now that Obama said sure MI&Fl get full delegations that brings hillarys vote count back up… its all a farce and show!

Steve Perry
if you want to groan on about the war in Iraq and other issues, go bak to an early comment that was posted on here saying that John Kerry is to blame for sabotaging, yes the last 3 elections even in 2000 when he had that famous phone call of support to Gore in the recount fight. It was his idea about postpartisanship etc… Moveon.org has ruined the voting process… and I say that as a centrist democrat… left and right wings have no place at this juncture of american poltics we need to go back to having electors like they did in John Adams time! John Adams was lamenting losing the election to George washington by 1 vote and his wife abigail reminded him,”but John, you are vice president now!”

Belle Starr
Yep… well I wouldnt go so far as to say that killing of the Ark Chairman was a warning from the post-partisan folks, but things are amiss and rotten in Georgia and all that MSNBC is a good example… it was like a travelling roadshow that went at their direction… the only thing that makes sense to me is that they nominated Obama on purpose to throw off the Repubs then do a bait and switch at the convention which could happen.. in 1980 Ted Kennedy was 800 votes short Hillary is much less than that… they only have to vote for the pledged candidate on the first ballot!

BOB BARR FOR PREZ

Please help me get my sister out of Afghanistan. She’s on her 5th deployment. Both sides, should cool it with the mischaracterizations. We have 2 very good candidates.

The Bush/Cheney attack machine isn’t Corsi– it is reflected by Cheney devotee Matalin publishing the book.

NEW #1 BEST SELLER: “THE OBAMA NATION”
FOR MONTHS, AMERICANS HAVE ASKED: “WHO IS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA?”
THE ANSWER IS: “NOBODY KNOWS!”
In contrast to Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Hussein Obama has not been vetted — not even by Democrats.
Even today he is largely an unknown to all but a small handful of dogged political professionals and a concentrated core of political junkies who inhabit Internet blogs. His face is known, due to all the biased media attention — but we really don’t know the man!
I CAN’T WAIT TO READ THIS BOOK TO SEE WHO OBAMA REALLY IS OR WHAT HE’S REALLY ABOUT!
VOTE FOR THE HONORABLE JOHN McCAIN IN 2008.

Mr. Tapper, the refutation to your points about Alice Palmer are contained in the very article you cited from the Chicago Tribune, and in my own personal knowledge of the meeting between Obama, Palmer, and others which occurred in my Father-In-Law’s living room in 1996.
Fact is, that my good friend’s wife, Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer DID pull her own plug as witnessed by others and that Obama had been sanctioned by her to go ahead with the organizational work that formed the basis for his refusal to step aside.
Ms. Palmer is not happy with his refusal to this day, but as one who would have advised Obama to step aside in favor of Senator Palmer, I am also GLAD that he did NOT!!
And had you studied the article more closely, you might have noticed the statements of my Father-in-Law, quoted in the article.
Maybe we were all wrong then and Barack was CORRECT!!

By the way, out of 41 pages of very detailed refutations of a factual nature, you found problems with approximately 4 items???

Leave it to Wright-Rezko-Ayers-Obama to smear Bush.

I am amazed that the MSM reporters (without research) immediately call everything in Obama Nation lies and fabrications.
The media has lost all credibility. There are approx 700 reference notes in this book.
I have read the book, and I don’t see the lies. Most of what is in Corsi’s book has already been documented in the primaries.
How does the MSM know that these are lies??????????????? They don’t, they simply gets Axelrod’s directions on how to fight the book, and they immediately do what they are told by Axelrod.

Jake, thank you for your excellent and fair reporting
Please note – it is NOT just Dr. Corsi !!
Let Dr. Corsi, Freddoso, Morris, Penn, Hannity and MANY, MANY others defend the TRUTH about their investigations / vetting NObama!!
NObama: you can NOT RUN FROM YOUR PAST – it clearly demonstrates your TRUE BELIEFS (despite 41 pages of DENIAL – you protesteth way too much)!!!
NObama: NO Judgement / NO Character to LEAD – esp. for USA President !!!
**** McCAIN (or Hillary) ‘08
PS. Finally, do NOT have the same reservations regarding Condi Rice – [Race is NOT the issue]!!!

Jake, you are so right. I am reading the book – and I’m struck by how much of what Corsi examines were first brought to light by Obama’s own books. Corsi repeatedly cites Obama’s own books as sources, in addition to his own research.
But your main point – yes, never have I seen a lapdog press so willingly sign on to a candidate’s attacks wholesale. The hysteria of the Obama campaign deepens the suspicion that Corsi got too close to the truth.
It’s all backfiring for Obama.

The problem with Barack Obama is that MSM has given him such a free ride and placed him on such a pedestal that Jerome Corsi’s Obama Nation (abomination) is a hit with those who think or feel it’s time Obama get his political comeuppance.

Any attempt to justify ANYTHING that Corsi says is a mistake.
When will the author of this analysis give us an analysis of Jerome Corsi’s career, his firmly held beliefs, and his list of “hates”?
I could not possibly have a lower opinion of Jerome Corsi and his attempt to Swift-Boat Barack Obama.

McCain is like a Grumpy Elephant with no vision and a flip flopping memory! There is a reason this Elephant is silent on Jerome Corsi. His trainers are Rove & Schmidt at the circus! We know what to expect at the McCain’s convention a Grumpy Elephant entwining his trunk with 2 Rogue elephants in Bush/Cheney with two cheering trainers in Rove & Schmidt who are trying to sell the American People a 3 rd George Bush Term.

Why should I pay more attention to Corsi than MSM? Can anyone say National Enquirer and John Edwards?

Charles
You are right….we must learn now what Obamas past was because the the media was too busy talking up Obama as the flashy now candidate. Sure the Clintons were a bit arrogant in thinking they didnt have to compete in the caucuses but with the full delegations seated in Fl and mi that brings Hillary closer to the nomination that is only supposed to be determined in Denver a few days from now… not any time before… so dont blame the CLinton people who had both hindsight and forsight to predict this end! You got too wound up in Obama too early what if say 2000 delegates force you to go with a 3rd candidate eh? It could and will happen… your messiah(little “m”) will not be nominated on the first ballot!

Congrats JPT!
Jake Tapper is really making a name for himself in this presidential election.
Fair minded and intellectually honest people will naturally gravitate towards those media sources that will provide a certain fair and sober and intellectually honest viewpoint and reportage.

Unfortunately Corsi’s book appeals to the core of the Republican party. Corsi has been proven to be a lying bigot. Unfortunately, McCain hasn’t had the courage or decency to denounce him or his book. That says a lot about McCain’s character.

is this damage control for obama?

Corsi tells the truth. This book is much more accurate than anything you hear on the nightly news, or the complete fantasy science spewed from Algore’s evil mind.

Jake’s piece is quite interesting — but not really complete.
Jake says:
Much of what Corsi writes in his book is demonstrably false, irresponsible, and feverishly conjured. The book is indefensible, as are Corsi’s many bigoted remarks about Arabs, the Pope and others.
I was disappointed that Jake did not provide a few of the more clearly false and irresponsible statements in Corsi’s book, which I’ve not read.
The first link Jake provides is to another article of his which quotes some of Corsi’s statements from 2004 and a lot of name calling and complaints from Democrats. This is not really helpful in evaluating the merits of Corsi’s new book.
Jake, please write another piece and detail some of the most outlandish and obviously false comments from the book.

Lois from California says “I plan on voting for Obama because the economy sucks”.
Not because she sees him as qualified to lead the greatest, most powerful nation on Earth, but because she is under the delusion that the president “runs” the economy.
Never mind the fact that the poorest people in the USA are far better off than the richest kings of a few hundred years ago. Never mind the fact that our roads are clogged with late-model vehicles, carrying people to and from crowded retail stores, restaurants and entertainment venues where they often have to wait in line to spend their money. The media has drilled into us the fantasy that “the economy sucks and it’s the president’s fault” so long and so often that as many as 46% of registered voters are prepared to cast their vote for someone who has no applicable experience, who has openly and repeatedly expressed disdain for the traditional values that have made this country great, and who cries “racism, slander, and slime” anytime anyone points out these facts.
Obama, with his smooth talk and his arrogance masquerading as confidence, appeals to those who just want somebody to make it all better. But the cold, hard fact is that YOUR life will never be better unless YOU take the steps to MAKE it better. You can “hope” for “change” all you want. And while you’re doing so, the “filthy, slimy rich” people will go on about their business of creating real value and delivering all those goods and services that you think you can’t do without. But if Obama is elected many of them are going to choose to do it somewhere other than the USA, or to just stop doing it at all and simply live off their fat. Let’s see what THAT does to “the economy.”

I agree that Corsi is somwhat of a loon. However, that doesn’t automatically discredit his book. To do that, one would need to go through it piece by piece and find out what’s accurate and what isn’t. Even if three quarters of what’s in there isn’t actually factual, that still leaves a lot that is. And, whatever is left should be very troubling to anyone thinking about voting for Obama, because it shows that there’s nothing new and different about Obama at all. He’s just a typical sleazy Chicago machine politician in a nicer suit.

Team Obama has the resources (this includes the media and money)to rewrite, within days, anything opposing Obama being president. This is not a democracy folks!

It’s an abomination that the media has been backing Obama from the beginning–first against Hillary and now McCain.
Corsi is vetting Obama because the MSM refused to.
Maybe Corsi stretches the truth at times but many things in the book about Obama are a fact. Enough for me to know I don’t trust him and will not vote for him.
Rev Wright was enough–Obama is way too comfortable around radicals. They love him.

Like most material which is peddled by the Obama campaign, the rebuttal to Corsi’s book is yet more propaganda and self-indulgent nonsense. Unfortunately for Obama many of Corsi’s claims are directly supported by comments in Obama’s own books – oops, has Obama not read his own books lately?! There is a reason “The Obama Nation” is number one on so many bookseller lests – the public is STARVING for the TRUTH about Barack Obama, truth the mainstream media has been disgracefully silent in reporting about. I look forward to reading Corsi’s rebuttal to Obama’s rebuttal!

Corsi is nothing but a slanderous and bigoted fool. Those who believe his crap are just as full of avarice and stupidity. A man who insulted my religion and called Pope John Paul II a pedophile has no credibility whatsoever. This imbisible thinks the government is behind 9/11 and that oil is a renewable energy source. Why believe him now? Because his target is a half-black man with a funny name and is relativley new to the national scene?
Stop this nonsense and develop the decency to refrain from shameless attacks. Obama can and will win and when he does maybe you’ll actually learn something about him instead of believing everything you read on the world wide web of lies.

The reason Corsi’s book Obama Nation is doing so well is because the American public wants to know who their potential President is…and since the msm have been high heels in love with Obama and has not been willing to do their job there is a huge vacumn for information. I’m glad that books like these are coming out because the American people deserve to know the truth.
By the way did anyone slam the NYT when they came out with that slime hit piece on McCain and a purported affair?

Many Obama supporters complain that McCain has not condemned Corsi’s book. Well… how come Obama has not comdemned the books written against McCain? Did Obama ever comdemn the false racism accusations against the Clintons?

Flawed or not, Corsi’s book will be in print long after Obama’s books are remaindered, then collected in one handy “bargain” volume, and then simply forgotten.
Corsi’s will continue to serve as a reference for analyzing what was wrong with this candidate and why he was unelectable. But Obama’s various love letters to himself will be of worth only as nostalgia items on ebay.

these comments are eye-opening. jake tapper highlights several points logically and with factual support and the commenters just attack him without addressing whether what he wrote is accurate. this is why O, who should be far ahead in the polls given how much W and the Reps have botched things is even or almost even with McC

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Hey, guys, two wrongs
(Corsi BS and the Obama refutations / distortions)
do not make a Wright (or do they?).

Now that SOMEONE has come forth and put the Obama debate on the table and beings you think most of Corsi’s book is “troubling and fictional”, will you be specific about the “most” parts?
Thank you,
nancy

One man is getting rich off the popularity of Senator Barack Obama.Look Americans love lies, fiction and gossip. This is why tabloid magazines are so successful.I am sure there are a plenty of people that want printed information to back up their dislike of Senator Obama.So what the books are selling well. The Davinci Code did really well at the box office despite the fact that many Christians view it as a falsehood and completly against their beleifs.
The issue is that there are people… probably alot of people who don’t want to beleive that Barack is as good as a guy as he seems.”He has to have some dirt” in their minds, and this author is aware of that and capitilizing off of that.
But let’s really look at this.The truth is Obama is under a lot of scrutiny.This whole election campaign is about finding the dirt on him and how he isn’t ready.McCain and Hillary boasted ( McCain still does) about how they are so ready to lead this nation.Give me a break!
Any book about Obama is a top seller.Even if it is a book of lies.The same book about McCain would stay on the shelf because it would be alot like John McCain… boring and not interesting.

I will give Corsi credit for one major thing.The ability to capitalize off of hatred and envy.This author is very wise in this respect.As an Obama supporter I probably shouldn’t say this, but Corsi, apparently is a very good businessman.Get paid by talking about someone else’s perceived weaknesses and alleged hidden agenda.Rappers have done that for years and the public spent their money to buy it.To me these books are the print version of a “dis” record. I will not waste my money on the garbage.I’ll be donating it to the Obama campaign.Change that I am willing to give a try because I know John McCain will have us at WAR with whatever country he is afraid of, and like a chained dog in the inner city he will bark( threaten) at any passerby that he doesn’t know , understand or recognize.We need a president that can deal in diplomacy first!War should be one of your final and last options. not option number 1 like John McCain.Obama 08

The refutation isn’t just ineffectual, they had to “creatively edit” a Corsi quote in order to make their point.

Billw,
No what would you have to talk about if Obama was not anywhere on the national radar, like the councilwoman from my disrict.My point is do you have anything else to talk about besides how bad Obama is?Anything non Obama related?
Waiting…….

Let’s vote for anyone but Obama!

A study by Center for Responsive Politics Responsive reports that members of the military are giving more donations to Senator Obama than Senator McCain, and when you just examine those troops who are deployed, Obama attracts more donations by a 6 to 1 factor.

McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates. In addition, McCain’s wife Cindy McCain and her father Jim Hensley had invested $359,100 in a Keating shopping center in April 1986, a year before McCain met with the regulators.
McCain, his family, and their baby-sitter had made nine trips at Keating’s expense, sometimes aboard Keating’s jet. Three of the trips were made during vacations to Keating’s opulent Bahamas retreat at Cat Cay. McCain did not pay Keating (in the amount of $13,433) for some of the trips until years after they were taken, when he learned that Keating was in trouble.

If Corsi’s book is so false, then:
1) Why are you folks so upset?
2) Why is it a NYT BEST SELLER?
3) How many copies has Nancy Pelosi’s book sold so far?
Now, do you idiots REALLY think American’s want to hear people TRASH their country? It looks to me like America would rather hear from patriots.
Not that I agree with much of Corsi’s rhetoric, but the hateful garbage I see in these posts suggests to me that this is an “anti-American Values” site. Remove All prisms from your face and try again.

“So, instead of attacks on the messenger why not do a point by point refutation of the allegations in his book?”
Which is precisely what Obama did.

“If Corsi’s book is so false, then:
1) Why are you folks so upset?”
This should go without saying, but apparently, the thick ones have a hard time with the concept of fairness…People who possess ethics denounce books whose content is almost exclusively based on unsubstantiated claims with an obvious goal of smearing someone. This is Unfit For Command, part II. It’s a new target, and a new set of lies, but the goal is the same.
“2) Why is it a NYT BEST SELLER?”
For the same reason Coulter’s books achieve this status…The right-wing money machine buys a few hundred thousand to vault it up there, and give is away to propagate their smear campaign.
“3) How many copies has Nancy Pelosi’s book sold so far?”
What relevance does this have to Corsi’s book of lies?

I am reading “Obama Nation” and finished the first two chapters. It is full of accurate research, much extracted from Obama’s own writing and speeches. It is also fairly understated in tone. For example, it is careful to confirm Obama’s Christianity while observing that he had some Islamic instruction as a child. Hardly a controversy and apparently true.
I have been astonished by the absurd cries of “bigot”, “lies”, and “smears” from an assortment of Liberal Media hacks. The ad hominem attacks SCREAM invective and fail to refute anything specific of substance in the book.
They sound prejudiced and wrong.

I wish you people in the media would look into Obama’s background the same way you are looking into Corsi’s.

“ANY book with any veracity will have footnotes that can be checked for the source of the tidbits within the book. The first dozen footnotes in Corsi’s book are attributed to HIM !!!”
Tommy is a liar like many other liberals. Looking at the footnotes of the preface of THE OBAMA NATION the majority of the quotes are attributed to Corsi. But the topic of the preface is “Who I Am and Why I Wrote This Book”. Even with this it is not true that the first 12 quotes are attributed to Corsi even though you would expect many of the quotes to be about Corsi given the topic of the preface. Now moving on to the actual book let us take the first chapter. There are 29 references and only three are related to Corsi – telephone interviews. Reference #4 is a telephone interview with Sharon Churcher; reference #5 is a telephone interview with Rob Crilly; and reference #19 is a telephone interview with Sayid Obama in Kisumu Kenya. To make the claim that the references are somehow faulty, is a complete lie. The telephone interviews show that Corsi was careful to gather the facts. Few of the references in the book are actually attributed to Corsi. One of the characteristics of Corsi’s writing is that his work is well researched! This is why his work is so powerful. He is able to bring out the details and bring out the real person – in this case Barack Obama.

I bought the book, and I am stunned at what I did not know. Why hasn’t the mainstream dug into Obama’s background? Aren’t his associations, as well as his political and social beliefs, critical to understanding who he is and deciding, on an individual level, whether we want him for our president? Don’t the people have a right to know him, and don’t the media have the responsibility to inform us rather than obfuscate. No wonder the is media dying; it’s lost its soul and is rotting from its core, and it’s so obvious.

That’s great research Jake Tapper!
Tactically, I question the Obama campaign’s response because how many people who would be drawn to the Corsi book would follow through and actually read Barack’s 40 page rebuttal? Like were they trying to go for the number ’40 page+’ rather than truth?
And if the lies are so egregious, why not sue the author and the publisher to compel them to issue a recall/retraction on 2 or three of the most damaging demonstrable false facts?

I bought the book and read about 1/3 so far. If the first 20 pages of this book contain ANY truth, Obama is TOAST.
Unbelievable that ABC is behind this outright wholesale promotion of this dangerous candidate.

Phrases such as “Bush/Cheney Attack Machine” and “Rightwing Attack Machine” are themselves attacks, of course. Their use on the Americans’ left seems to have become a habit that displaces thought; it’s become repetitive, automatic, mechanical. “Bush/Cheney Attack Machine” and “Rightwing Attack Machine” are themselves mechanical attacks.

Why would anyone claim that this book isn’t a part of the right-wing attack scheme? It doesn’t mean that they agree with the author on everything, only that they provide the author with a medium to express his views and then promote them. (“Look, even this person is saying that… and he doesn’t even agree with us.”)
Lot of the other points in this opinion piece are matters of interpretation, and maybe the correct response from the Obama campaign would not have been to declare certain points outright lies. But people like when things are simplified for them. If you start to explain complexities for them, they just tune out and think you are hiding something.
Summa summarum: I think this blog/article is an overreach and provides unnecessary echoes to the right-wing echo chamber.

Senator Obama has burst on the scene and now his bubble is bursting. What matters is not if Corsi is 100% truth and light, but Mr. Obama’s own record, or lack thereof. Mr. Obama is asking for our vote, not Corsi. As others have said, even if 75 or 85% only is true in Corsi’s book, it tells us way more than the MSM outlets have been carping – that Obama is The One.
Just on issues and brass tacks positions alone – Obama should be rejected. When you combine that with his dubious associations – he should be passed on out of hand.
All the best to a more moderate African American candidate to win the US Presidency in the future.
McCain ’08!

Sorry, the quote I pulled below was from Elon, not Bob44.

Regarding Justice Clarence Thomas, Barak Obama stated, “I don’t think he was a strong enough jurist or a legal thinker at the time for that. I profoundly disagree with his interpretation [of the Constitution].” Is this statement not the height of irony?

Sleepless in Seattle:
“Just on issues and brass tacks positions alone – Obama should be rejected. When you combine that with his dubious associations – he should be passed on out of hand.”
Judging from the interview’s tonight on TV with McCain and Obama, he will be. McCain showed better judgement and intelligence 10 to 1.

I can’t believe some of the comments I’m reading on this blog. It shows the reason why the U.S. is in the current mess we are in since so many people are showing no sign of intelligence. If you bothered to find out the truth, you would see that Coris is a lair who has stated that John McCain is being funded by groups tied to Al Qaeda. No wonder the U.S. is crumbling around us since way too many people aren’t using their God given brains to actually think. One can only wonder where this country will be in 4 years if John McCain actually wins.

Don’t knee-jerk kill the messenger. Corsi’s book would be much stronger if he focussed on the (my opinion) 70% that is true and 86′d the garbage. Much of Corsi’s truths would not have been a shock upon publication if the MSM had been doing its due diligence on Obama and his backround.
Corsi’s book on Kerry in 2004 was mostly a compilation of data from those officers and sailors who served with “JFK” in Vietnam. Some of it was sour grapes, to be sure, but a lot of it was true. Examples: Kerry was allowed to leave Vietnam before the completion of his combat tour by virtue of earning three (3) Purple Hearts (PH).
His first PH was during training up country and has been refuted by his Commanding Officer and the Medical Doctor present. If this PH is bogus, then he should not have left Vietnam early. Second, his declaration that he and his boat were in Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968 (to discredit U.S. involvement in Cambodia) was a lie. I personnally know this because I was on duty in the Mekong Delta that night for Army intelligence. We had real-time locations of all U.S./allied personnel and boats in case we had to call in artillery or air strikes based on our intelligence. Kerry and his boat were never closer than 10km from Cambodia that night.
Finally, Kerry forfeited all credibility with fellow Vietnam vets when he tried to pass off bogus atrocity claims in testimony to the Senate. The testimony from “vets” of the Winter Soldier cause have been mostly debunked. Kerry, painting us all with a dirty, broad brush, caused great harm to his fellow vets. But id did establish his bona fides to the far-left for his losing race for Congress in 1972.

Rand Bowerman thinks Corsi’s smear job on Obama is about 75% true because of another work of fiction Corsi published on Kerry? I wonder what sort of fellow veteran of Kerry Bowerman is to accept the words of a draft dodger like Corsi over the words of a decorated veteran like Kerry. While Bowerman claims to have been “Army Intelligence” that night Kerry was out – assuming Bowerman knew then actually that Kerry was out that night, Kerry’s own team – every one of them has vouched for Kerry over and over again. This shows how low political affiliations can drag one down as in the case of Bowerman. Simply because Bowerman has bought, unseeingly, into the republican litany of lies, he has no compunctions about smearing a veteran like Kerry and his entire team. This is chicanery at its worst. It is the likes of Bowerman who have kept quiet as a fraud like Ann Coulter has trashed the reputation of Max Cleland – a peerless man of honour. And in 2006 when Tammy Duckworth – an decorated veteran and amputee from Iraq – was in the running for the Congress against Pete Roskam, her opponent lacking a sense of irony accused her of wanting to cut and run. To heap insult on injury the VFW endorsed a country club conservative (and a one time flack of Tom DeLay) over a fellow veteran. Kerry had the courage to to bring to light atrocities that were perpetrated by rougue soldiers. Bowerman may be in denial or sold over to the republican smear machine. but this is no excuse for tolerating falsehood. Above everything else the fact that an alleged veteran like Bowerman chooses to follow the dictates of a frat-boy like Bush who used his dad’s connections to put in paper servie in the ANG over a man of honour who answered the call of duty regardless of his personal opinion, shows that for Bowerman and the many who joined that chorus of lies in 2004, their uniform is just another suit in the closet.
Kerry came within a few 1000 votes of winning in 2004 and is today cruising to victory in his re-election bid in Massachusets. Bowerman’s fellow deceiver in arms and fancy suit wearer John O’Neill boasted in 2004 that he was going to take up residence in Masachusets and defeat Kerry for the Senate in 2008. Looks like there are words and then empty words! Republicans will balance the budget and speak the truth before they can ever defeat a Senator of sterling credentials like Kerry – ever. After all what would Bowerman’s Red State rabble be worth without the scientific and cultural resources of the East Coast and West Coast that power the US economy?
How amusing that Obama should be smeared as a “far-left” candidate! This is exactly what racists liked to say those days about Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Even today racist bigots accuse Dr.King of communist sympathies! For the likes of Bowerman calling Obama names is a thin veneer for their own prejudices.

“Much of Corsi’s truths”
One of those words does not belong in that sentence, Rand Bowerman.
Either jettison ‘truth’ or ‘Corsi’, because there is no plane of existence on which those two words can appear together.

“Certainly it’s not “baseless” to question why Obama was using Patrick’s words as his own without crediting him, as we wondered about HERE. ”
So Corsi’s attack is valid because this isn’t the *first* time you’ve launched and absurd and dishonest attack on
Obama? Regardless of what you
“wondered”, the charge of plagiarism was *baseless*, and such wondering was clueless or flat-out dishonest.
And so it goes. After all, the Republicans determined that their best chance to win is to make this a referendum on Obama, and the corporate media happily obliges, whether it’s these bogus criticisms of his response to a vicious attack from the Republican noise machine or painting him as “exotic” for vacationing with his sister and grandmother.

I saw the preface (“Why I Wrote This Book”) to Corsi’s book on the web. Editing out the words in the middle this is how it reads.
…abortion…extreme left…extreme left…Obama and Hillary Clinton…Clinton’s and Obama’s…African-American…racial discrimination…racial relations…ending welfare…teenage pregnancies…racial politics…Detroit race riots…A Time To Burn?…race riots…a riot flared in Glenville…burning and looting…race riots…Black Militants…racial violence…student protests…antiwar movement…civil rights and protest literature…Black Muslims…African-American radicals…burning and looting…race riots…Vietnam Veterans Against the War…race riots…student demonstrations…antiwar protests…convicted felons…bank robbers…rapists…terrorists…terrorism and Islamic extremism…Atomic Iran…Nuclear Iran…radical terrorists…war with Iran…Obama’s extensive connections with Islam and with radical racial politics…extremists…Malcolm X and Louis Farrakhan…radical socialist…Obama’s home tribe…radical community organizing…socialist redistribution of wealth…Radical Islamic terrorist…African-American poverty…teenage pregnancies and abortions…welfare-state programs…far-leftist…extremist politics…his middle name, which happens to be Hussein…
Separately, which party will do a better job of cleaning up the mess after GWB leaves office? Rs or Ds?
Sounds like a campaign theme to me.