When Candidates Attack: Obama Plays the Reed Card; McCain Responds with Ayers

Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. Nothing will change that, since those are his beliefs up till this very day. He did say he wished he would have done more damage when he had the opportunity.

Obama got a sweetheart land deal from Rezko when Rezko was under investigation for two years. Rezko was convicted how he illegally raised money for Obama. Rezko was convicted on 15 other felonies. Obama saved 300 grand on the land deal from Rezko.

“The question now is, will Barack Obama immediately call on the University of Illinois to release all of the records they are currently withholding to shed further light on Senator Obama’s relationship with this unrepentant terrorist?”
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Geez, what “relationship?” The relationship of Barack working with Ayers on an education project?”
Is that supposed to be a game-changer or something. Give me a break.
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John McCain has always associated himself with sleazy, corrupt types. Remember Charles Keating from the Savings and Loan scandals? McCain’s own wife would be a convicted drug felon if she weren’t from a wealthy family and married to a Senator. The McCain campaign is really stupid.

Uh oh. The Obama campaign inadvertently open a can of worms. If they’re going to question McCain’s associations, Obama’s are fair game. And they aren’t pretty.

Will,
You clearly do not know Obama’s assocations to Ayers. Did you read the above article?
“However, if Barack Obama wants to have a discussion about truly questionable associations, let’s start with his relationship with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, at whose home Obama’s political career was reportedly launched.”
Do you really want an unrepentant terrorist kicking off your political career??

Paula,
Let’s try to keep the discussion honest here:
1. McCain was cleared of all wrongdoing with respect to the Keating scandal. If you want to provide evidence that he was incorrectly cleared, by all means do so.
2. Cindy McCain became addicted to pain killers, a very common side effect.
3. On the topic of drug addiction, Barack Obama used cocaine and smoked pot without medical reason, or as a side effect of medical treatment. If anyone should be a convicted felon, it’s Obama, according to your logic.

Wow, Sammy. So Obama was “associated” with Ayers. So was the entire Chicago political establishment (didn’t the Mayor appoint him to do some education work?), everyone who ever served with Ayers on an education or charity board, as well as the entire faculty of the University (those who hired him, gave him tenure and worked alongside him). Oh, and all the students who decided to take his classes…
That’s gonna be one might big witch-hunt.

Obama is tanking in the polls everyday, his camp is now in panic mode and they are going to try and throw the kitchen sink at McCain, it didn’t work for Hillary and it won’t work for Obama. Sorry Obama camp, way too little , way too late.

Lisa,
Daley is good friends with Ayers’ father, that is why he appointed him.
But if you’re ok with equating Obama with Daley, by all means do so. Shows you know ZILCH about Daley.

Kelly,
It goes to show that the promise of Obama and his supporters to usher in a “new kind of politics” was empty rhetoric.
It’s sad it had to end this way for you guys. The only question left is what role Obama will play after he loses the general election. Will he disappear, or will he try to fix the Democratic Party he broke.

Lisa: why refuse to release the files then? Maybe it is nothing, but that always makes it look worse, doesn’t it? Also, Ayers is the kind of guy who flies to Venezuela to praise “the revolution!” Read his speech down there, it’s great!
Also, how is this card not “negative” campaigning?

Trigger happy McCain as a president…God save us all…”Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran” is that’s the guy people are supporting and defending in this blog? this county is in trouble when the electorate support someone who his foreign policy start and end with war and more war

I am a Chicago resident. Both the current Mayor Daley and his father were and are the most corrupt, back stabbing power wielding politicians on the face of the earth. Obama learned from the best.

They both suck.

Here goes the ‘new kind of politics’ down the drain. Actully when BHO says he does not believe in Washington politics, he means that he only believes in the south side Chicago politics. I am glad the wolf (BHO) in the sheep’s skin is started coming out already. What a biggest joke this guy is.

JA
You are in for a bitter shock if you think New Politics is not hitting back when attacked…i wonder where you get that idea from…McCwar will soon conscript many into the military be ready for the coming of never ending war…

Republican’s have self rightousness down to a science. When Obama calls McShame out on his shady record they whine that isn’t the new politics he promisised. You forget McShame said excatly the same thing and as soon as he noticed his poll numbers were capped he goes all out negitive. Obama responds in kind with facts and all you repubs can do is whine. Sorry folks, I said it before Obama is no Kerry or Gore he is going to put this neo-cons feet to the fire no matter what. Let the chips fall where they may but nobody is going to roll over for the repubs this time.

Oh depraved one, get your facts straight, Ayers served NO time in jail, his partner in crime and wife did serve 7 months.

Republicans must be scared to their nerves seeing Obama throwing a crippling punch to McCain’s kidney…this only the beginning, they called for it now they will get it.

JA…you might want to check your facts. Cindy McCain was caught stealing drugs from her own charity (and it was not just one time). The people who worked for her turned her in. She got off because she came from a wealthy family and was married to a senator. She cried in public and went to rehab. And what I wrote about McCain was that he associated with sleazy people like Charles Keating who in fact did spend time in jail for fraud. The McCains took many family vacations with the Keatings, had regular dealings with them and considered them close friends. So maybe you should do some better research on your candidate because you obviously don’t know who he really is.

Paula,
Yes, I am aware Cindy McCain had an addiction problem and stole drugs.
I am also aware that Barack Obama bought cocaine and pot and used them.
Do you really want to open this can of worms? Think before you speak next time.

Kelly,
I’m not a Republican but an independent. I did not vote for Bush either times.
As far as the rich being 5mm or more, McCain was joking and he pointed out that people like you would distort the comment. Just too funny!
So now Obama supporters are just outright lying. I guess like leader like followers.

“Obama said once that the only reason he knows Ayers is that their kids went to school together. Never mind that Ayers kids are about 20 years older than Obama’s kids….”
He never said any such thing about their kids but nice try at creative writing! A+

JA
You think he is joking… right “out of the abundant of the heart the mouth speak” so says the Bible…was he joking about bombing Iran too…good to hear that you did not support Bush but now you are supporting his Clone…good for you

I wasn’t aware Cindy McCain was running for president.
But while we’re on the subject of lying, it’s pretty sad that Obama says his and Ayers’ kids go to school together and that that’s their only assocaition, when their kids are separate by 20yrs of age……and when we find out that Ayers kicked off Obama’s political carrer at his house……and that they worked on the same board together…….and who knows what else.
Once again Obama supporters, be careful what can of worms you open. McCain’s campaign has been waiting for you guys to open up questions of association.

“Washington is full of talented talkers,” … “The bottom line is that Sen. Obama’s words, for all their eloquence and passion, don’t mean all that much.”
McCain 08!
Hillary 2012!

JA
How come you are not addressing Keaten 5 ?

Kelly,
I addressed Keating 5: Here is what I said: John McCain was cleared of all wrongdoing. If you have evidence that he was incorrectly cleared of wrongdoing, by all means present it here so we can discuss. But, please, factual evidence.
While we’re on the topic of transparency though, what is Obama hiding in those records at UIC?

Obama Tanking in the polls? You folks are aware that neither McCain or Obama have gotten above 50%. While it looks like there maybe a small drop in support for Obama, there sure is not any increase of support for McCain.
If you ask me both of them have a problem

Stephanie Tubbs-Jones died at 6:12pm.
God Bless you, Stephanie.

THINKING,
Obama went from +8 (in July) to +1 (now) in the most recent poll of polls.
That is horrendous, given that no scandal has been exposed.

Let’s brush up on McCain and Charlie Keating:
In 1982, during McCain’s first run for the House, Keating held a fund-raiser for him, collecting more than $11,000 from 40 employees of American Continental Corp. McCain would spend more than $550,000 to win the primary and the general election.
In 1983, as McCain contemplated his House re-election, Keating hosted a $1,000-a-plate dinner for him, even though McCain had no serious competition. When McCain pushed for the Senate in 1986, Keating was there with more than $50,000.
By 1987, McCain had received about $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.
McCain also had carried a little water for Keating in Washington. While in the House, McCain, along with a majority of representatives, co-sponsored a resolution to delay new regulations designed to curb risky investments by thrifts such as Lincoln.

Kelly,
LOL!!! You think Ayers was “cleared”???? He got free on a technicality. You have made a total fool of yourself.

JA,
McCain has Charlie Black as a paid employee of his campaign. Black is paid MILLIONS of dollars to represent Mass Murderers, Dictators and TERRORISTS.
Please explain why this is OK for you? You get up on that little soapbox of your and wag your finger at Obama supporters, so enlighten us all why McCain can associate with Charlie Black, a sick opportunist??

JA
people like you and you faith in pool crowned Hillary as party nominee last fall (because of pool)…we all know what happen… Obama rather lead in October and win in November rather than in August.

JA,
Meaningless crap and you know it. One poll ending 8/16 has McCain up by 5, another ending 8/17 has Obama up by 5 and the the rest have Obama up by 1 to 3.
At this stage of the game people are so fickle, one can’t gauge what the hell is going on.
I repeat both are below 50% and that is not good for either.

THINKING,
Look, I’m not referring to one poll but a poll of polls. An average of the most reliable and popular ones. And Obama has gone from up 8 to up 1. That is bad my friend, any way you try to paint it. Some polls even have McCain swinging to a wide 4 or 5 point lead.
I suspect this is a result of McCain’s great Saddleback showing, and Obama’s mediocre one.

eyes opening…you miss the point…Obama and the Democrats have said nothing about Cindy. That isn’t true about the Republicans and Michelle. Maybe it’s time for the Democrats (and the media) to tell the American people who the real McCains are.
Betty Ford is an honorable woman. She didn’t steal drugs and then try to pass herself off as a saint (read the Time magazine article about poor, poor Cindy McCain).

Kelly,
Please stop talking. You are losing all credibility. Ayers was guilty. He got off due to an “improper surveillance” technicality. Doesn’t mean he’s free, it just means they caught him the wrong way.

Obama painted himself into a corner when he chose to act like he was going to take the high road. He either has to take the high road or show himself to be a liar. He’s a liar.

OldSpice,
Amen. I hope people start to look into his early political career in Chicago, where he basically used TECHNICALITIES to forfeit incumbets and potential running mates. He’d rather win by all means necessary than honestly.
The Obama you know is a fiction.

ignorance is a Bliss less we wont have people like you defending McCain and castigating Ayers…both set free by the system…
If a man sells dope for a living and doesn’t get caught, does that mean he isn’t a dope dealer? Ayers has more or less boasted of his days in the weather undergrond, doesn’t regret it and wished he had done more. Obama should be careful as to whom he is associated with.

oldspice
you have no case to make against Obama and now you result to name calling…we have a lot of Catholics today in this country running for office and no one ever fault them for the crimes committed by different priest in their church…and that is a great thing but when it comes to Obama people like start screaming murder…now that’s what we call double standard…Lets move on…

Obama has lost my confidence to lead. I now realize he is not what he said he was.

Obama said once that the only reason he knows Ayers is that their kids went to school together. Never mind that Ayers kids are about 20 years older than Obama’s kids….”
He never said any such thing about their kids but nice try at creative writing! A+
Posted by: Lisa | Aug 20, 2008 7:04:12 PM
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Sorry Lisa, you’re wrong!
Do your homework!!!!!

Obama should be focusing on why he did so bad at the forum this past saturday instead of attacking McCain. Look in the mirror Barack and you will find your problem.

Obama’s only hope for this election was a gentlemanly, respectful campaign season where McCain’s person honor would cause McCain to rein in those who would truly highlight Obama’s terrible associations (Wright, Ayers, etc), poor decisions (Surge, taxes, drilling, lack of real policy (energy policy: fill your tires), extremely weak foreign policy (passive placation policy), etc.
PS Lisa, in addition to serving on the 9-member Woods foundation board together, Obama’s first fundraiser was hosted in Ayers house. Obama and Ayers have presented together at several academic events organized by Michelle Obama. When Obama made his first run for political office, articles in both the Chicago Defender and the Hyde Park Herald featured among his qualifications his position as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation where Ayers was a founder and guiding force. Obama assumed the Annenberg board chairmanship only months before his first run for office, and almost certainly received the job at the behest of Bill Ayers. During Obama’s time as Annenberg board chairman, Ayers’s own education projects received substantial funding. Obama said Ayers is just “some guy in my neighborhood” which is clearly a lie and a coverup. The university of Chicago complicity in coverup of these documents is reprehensible. SHAME ON THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO.

I would like to see Obama do a commercial clarifying his stance on abortion.

Thinking, you need to think a little harder. Obama “The Chosen One” said he would be ahead in the polls once people got to know him. The good news is the Germans like him, the bad news is the Americans don’t like what they see.

Me thinks this is not where Obama wanted to be going in to the convention. I understand that this is mobilizing the PUMA’s beyond their wildest dreams.

Taking the high road is the principled thing to do. Obama can defend himslef without climbing into the gutter. All of you haters just wait. Never mind the poll numbers..they only reflect a flawed system of collecting opinions. Those results do not reflect the roughly 15-20 million that do not have land lines and are never polled. That group will have a significant impact on the election. Add to that, another 10 million newly registered first time voters. Just wait until the general election. I predict that Obama will win by at least a 15 point margin.

Paula:
“eyes opening…you miss the point…Obama and the Democrats have said nothing about Cindy”.
Obama never needs to soil his hands when his bloggers can do it for him! They serve as his teflon vest and shield him from such stuff!
But just today, Cindy has come under the gun for drugs, a sister with whom she has little contact, having too much money, and being a bimbo!
No one ever mentions the amount of aid she and her money have provided for children… especially Viet Nam victims who were maimed in the war. No one ever brings up the adoption by the Mccains of daughter.
They have been married for over a quarter of a century. Let it lie;
Who knows how the Obama’s affection will fare in the next quarter of a century! I wish THEM well.
Cindy, is really the only candidate’s
wife who has said NOTHING untoward during the whole campaign!
But if she ‘s going to be put on the rack…. and so should/will Michele!.

When you get down to it, Obama is simply Pelosi’s puppet. You can tell because he never knows what to say in an ad hoc environment. He needs constant coaching!

Chris Stewart
What, exactly, favors does McCain get from Budweiser (which, by the way, is not the name of a company)?

the University of Illinois this week refused to release records related to Obama’s work with Ayers on the education project the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, at the request of an unnamed donor of the materials.
“The question now is, will Barack Obama immediately call on the University of Illinois to release all of the records they are currently withholding to shed further light on Senator Obama’s relationship with this unrepentant terrorist?” Rogers asked.
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Mr. “new” kind of politics: Release your records of terrorist Ayers association.

Chris Stewart
You’re blathering.
Tell us what influence McCain used instead of making things up as you go.

Martin,
You are right the company is not Budweiser. They just the largest Budweiser distributor in America. My bad.
Are you seriously asking what favors he gets from the company? Ummm, private jet, luxurious lifestyle, all the benefits that come when you are married to the daughter of the owener.
And what does he do for them? There was a report earlier this year about how he used his Senate influence to get land cleared for a building permit for the company. And that’s only the beginning! Take a real look at your candidate, he may not be as honest and “mavericky” as you think he is.

ABC: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and his team may have passed their first real presidential test — they can keep a secret.
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Secrecy has been the hallmark of the GWBush administration, including the Cheney oil advisers that resulted in Big Oil’s tax credits 0-bama supports.
This phony candi learned fast and well, from Bush. Talking about a 3rd term of Bush, you need go no further to look at his boneheaded secrecy.

the Ayers years should be released to get it off the agenda…if not…one more question for the public to wonder about.
Obama has to show the nation who he is…warts and all.
McCain for better or worse is known to the American public.
When vying for public support after his association for not one, not two, but 20 years ya better meet the issues straight on and not have these relationships exposed in Mid October.
This is going to be one of the most vicious elections in some time.
Who cares about Cindy Mc Cain’s sister or Obama’s half brother…remember this is not pertinent to the Presidency.
Besides remember you can pick your friends but not your relatives. So let’s hear and examine all the friends these two men have had over the years.
And what will we find…another Rev. Wright, a mistress, a few jerks.
Will the minions on here grow up and stop with the nasty remarks about either of them. Act like adults.

-Cindy brings up all her charity work and her daughter from Bangladesh every time she talks.-
She should because she should be proud of both. As for Mich-ele, what was that of doing an interview with the kids? Using the kids to garner votes? Shameful. One thing is to mention them, one thing is put them under the lights.

Sarah wrote,
“Obama should be focusing on why he did so bad at the forum this past saturday instead of attacking McCain. Look in the mirror Barack and you will find your problem.”
You’re right but Obama hasn’t done well in all debates ever since — even with Hillary. He was outwitted by McCain with his quick and smart, reasonable answers for which McCain was accused of knowing beforehand the questions without basis at all. Typical accusations from the Obama Camp whenever he went bad in the debates.

Typical baseless accusations from the Obama Camp whenever he went bad in the debates.
Posted by: neil1785 | Aug 20, 2008
Hello! That was not a debate! When the real debates begin you’ll see just how well Mr. McGoo comes off. He won’t be allowed to ramble and tell stories!

roxanne,
Obama is the stupid idiot. Look at him in all the debates he has had with McCain and Hillary.

roxanne….I bet the American people will understand McCain far more than Obama during debates. WE ALL SAW HOW HILLARY WOOPED HIM ATA EVERY DEBATE. It will be no different with McCain, unless Biden is on the dias with him and can speak for Obama.
Who can Obama chose for VP that doesn’t upstage him?

And Obama said, we are not allowed to question his patriotism.

Martin Slueg,
Because many many people hate the Obamas now.

JA: McCain was *one of the Five*. He went all the way to San Francisco to attend the meeting between Keating and the regulators.
One of the Five.
Was Obama a member of the Weatherman? Hmmmm? No? Oh? He met him a dozen times when both were sitting on the same board for an anti-poverty foundation?
Wow. How ‘radical’. Didn’t know being a boardmember is considered an act of radicalism…
Did you know McCain is Chairman of IRI?
Since 1993? Do you know what IRI does?
Do you know Stanley Lucas? Guy Philippe? Louis-Jodel Chamblain?
McCain does. And this is only Haiti. IRI has offices in 60 countries…
Ayers does not play any role in Obama’s campaign. Black on the other hand is his chief campaign adviser. Associated with Ferdinand Marcos, Mobutu Sese Seko, General Ibrahim Babangida, Mohamed Siad Barre, to name just a few.

roxanne,
Hillary didn’t win the nomination because Obama won from cheatings around caucuses. Obama won from cheatings around FL/MI, esp. when his illegal adverstisements were ignored by DNC. Obama bribed some of teh superdelegates. Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, etc. manipulated the DNC decision because they are extremely jealous of the Clintons making history in all aspects if and when Hillary wins the nomination the the GE.

This is the different type of politics that Obama promised? This is the absence of personal attacks that he stated he would promise? This is change? Where is the Obama that won the primaries???
As for the records release wasn’t he and his campaign and supporters pushing to have all the Clinton papers released and then blamed them when others did not do it? Why is he not calling for his own papers to be released?

Hello! That was not a debate! When the real debates begin you’ll see just how well Mr. McGoo comes off. He won’t be allowed to ramble and tell stories!
Posted by: roxanne | Aug 20, 2008 8:54:03 PM
What happened? Obama said, “I’ll debate anywhere at anytime.” Then he said, “No”, everywhere and all the time. Uh..uh..uhI don’t understand this brave, audacious, uh…uh…articulate man.
Russia is on the move and we need a straightforward man of courage.

The civil forum was supposed to be a conversation not a debate. In case you don’t know the difference. McCain, like his usual ploy, used the event to make stump speeches. McCain is a war hawk and disguises his motives by trying to make jokes about everything. But the joke is on all of his followers that support this two-faced guy. All of you disregard his double life and his past. Bill Clinton was a church choir boy compared to Mc Cain. You may not want to admit it, but this guy is worse than Bush, just pull back the false face.

Cindy? She of the Pills? Who lied about Mother Theresa? Who lied about being ‘the only child’?

Yeah you good ole girls and boys vote for the criminal GOP, If the crime boss become president. America will ruined and Russia and China will be on our doorstep via the Hothead Mac. How many more job loss, foreclosures,bank failures and homelessness amongst Iraqi Vets do we need? These jokers wouldn’t vote for the GI Bill but say they support the troops. What a bunch of slimeboalls in the GOP.

roxanne,
Those 18 million people that Obama won…half of those were earned prior to his scandals…prior to knowing the real obama…people are not that stupid to just forgive and forget….That will show in the GE.
Posted by: neil1785
Are these actual facts or just something you’re hoping for?

It all comes down to whether or not you think we should continue the bush policies. If you think the war should continue indefinitely, while we spend $10,000,000,000 a month, and you think that bush has done well with the economy then mc-more-war is your man. If you think that it’s time we start to get out of iraq and do some positive things for the average American instead of just the top 1% then vote for Obama.

Keating 5 crook McCain should be in Prison,this jokers a War Hero Pleas! who did he save? the joker could not fly right wreck 4 jets got shot out of the sky for flying to low. Cheated on his wife after she endured a almost deadly car wreck that left her criple. Mind you that McCain is a cripple himself. Charles Keating slimeball kickback reciever.

Ayers is and has been a very hating man. This is the man above all other men in Obama’s life who has acted as Obama’s spiritual advisor and mentor. It is a stain on Obama’s judgement and character that he subjected himself and family to such hate filled ranting. Unfortunately, you are, judged by the company you keep and rightly so.

Cindy’s not running for office (maybe Michelle should take a page out of her playbook)…an thou we all know she had an addiction to pain killers, the only one she hurt was herself. Michelle hurts all of us when she says she’s not proud of this country or it’s a mean place! FIRST LADY MATERIAL CINDY McCAIN….philanthropist, mother to two sons serving, Meghan who’s campaigning with dad, and Bridgette (their beautiful adopted Vietnamese daughter).
McCAIN ’08/HILLARY ’12

why do you care about cindy talking? is she running for president? clueless…

Just because mc-more-war was a pow does not mean he should be president. The guy used to have a spine but now is nothing but a flip-flopper and a panderer. He’s also an OLD fart. The real straight-talker, John Murtha said that the Presidency is no place for an OLD man. There’s a reason they make pilots retire at age 60. mc-more-war needs to retire with his millionaire wife. (The one he had an affair with after his first wife waited for him to come back from the war.) Obama 2008!!!

neil1785 – Yes, despite Obama’s downward trend in the polls and the flip-flops and lies, Obama’s Supporters continue to believe that we will all come to support Obama.
Poor things, it will not happen.
PUMA! 9.2 million Voters and counting, coming to the polls with You!

Obama’s list of associations with bad people and groups are growing fast…fast enough to gain a growing list of disgusted people

“You meand the same PUMA who has only raised $50,000 dollars? The same PUMA who attempted a rally boasting some 2 million but couldn’t get 250 people? That same group who can’t even help Senator Clinton pay down her debe? Come back with some facts!”
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Actually, no. That is only one of many PUMA groups. The acronym is Party Unity My , but that group changed it for theirs and used one that had Action for the A on the end.
These raised $5 million for Hillary in the first week end. MSNBC is slowly dying!

are people seriously talking about cindy mccains prescription drug problem?! people, get a grip!!! this has nohing to do with anything!!!!! my god….

Perhaps McCain will release the 742,000 pages of Abramoff related documents he collected during his SIAC “investigation” of Abramoff.
These documents that would implicate many members of McCain’s Party have been sent to the National Archives and stamped “Do not open until 2056″.

The bad boys (Kennedy, Kerry, Dean, Gore, Edwards, Richardson, etc.) in DNC should be blamed for not choosing the best candidate because they were extremely jealous of the Clintons.

Too bad Obama’s bio on CNN only has he and his sister to talk about their family. Mom died alone in a hospital room of ovarian cancer and son Barack didn’t speak to her for two years before her death. Hope they cover that. Why no granny interview EVER? Just Obama and sissy so far and no coverage of childhood in Indonesia. Man they covered every moment of McCain’s youth and family. What’s up?

pt,
Obama should explain his associations with the Communist Party of USA, his association with the murder of Donald Young, with Larry Sinclair, with Rezko, with Ayers, with Wright, and many more. University of Chicago is hiding the documents on his relationship with Ayers’ foundations. He’s just a starter politician and look how much baggage he already has? How much more will be added when he’s in the highest power?

subsistant…
first off, cindy mccain is NOT running for president!!!! who cares man!!!! it has NOTHING to do with the issues!!!! wow.. some people just seem to think that rambling on about these non issues serves a purpose. if thats the case, then im still voting for cindy mccain because at least she is proud of her country. it means nothing.

raygun…
are you serious right now! you’re talking about his naval acadamy experience as a voting issue?! how many years ago was that??? and if you really wanted to make that an issue (which it is absolutely not) i think he made up for it by what he survived in vietnam. read his story from his time fighting for your. then tell me if his graduation “ranking” means anything at all. issues people. real issues.

and quit calling mccain “my boy”. i dont want to vote for him either, but unfortunately this is what we are left with. i dont play the partisan games like some people.

Poor Obama…abandoned by dad at two and then mom dumps him for hubby #2 and sends him to granny. He actually could have turned out much worse with two parents who didn’t really put him first.
Whole in his soul, I bet…..that’s why tthe screaming crowds really turn him on. Explains why he married Michelle (mommy figure).

And McCain married Cindy cause she was a daughter figure right.

are we done talking about the wives now people? seriously? eveyone get it out of their system yet? jeez…

And this helps Obama with Christians–How?

cmon guys… you’re acting like the politicians here. ignoring the real issues and talking about pointless history.

anyone else a little scared about obamas foreign policy experience? (or lack of i should say) the recent russian/georgian conflict should hopefully get the attention it deserves. russia is DEFINATELY going to be a serious issue in the near future again. do you really want a guy with obamas experience at the helm of relations with them?

Just say no to losing
Plains radio said somebody did a poll that showed Hillary 6 points above McCain, who Zogby says is 5 points above Obama.
That surprises me since she suspended her candidacy a couple months ago and has endorsed him. Normally that would cause a candidates numbers to plunge.

annie,
Haven’t you heard? She’s already nominated. And if Obama continues to fall in the polls, the decision can be reversed, so be afraid…be very afraid….

I agree Manitu, at least with McCain you know what you are getting. As often as Obama has changed his beliefs so far we will never know where he stands and who will be able to influence him. With a President Obama we’ll have to have a state of the union address every week just to keep up!

neil, why should I be afraid. Hillary will go back to the Senate where she will do great things. Nothing will change at the convention.

“at least with McCain you know what you are getting”
Yep. Four More Wars.
And the Draft.

annie, that’s what you think. Let’s see. Hillary nowadays is cool because sh has plan a, plan b that’s ready to go. She has a real game plan. Obama has plans in the air.

2nd comment
I really do not care if Cindy did drugs or Obama did. But there is a moral difference.
Obama, like most young adults, did drugs but he freely admitted it.
Cindy, was stealing from her own charity to feed her habit. Not only was she was addicted to pain killers (which is understandable, sort of) but she was a thief (which is not forgivable) Especially since she was stealing from a charity for Children.

Ok neil, so what is Hillary’s game plan.

You are right, McCain is pro-life, he wants babies to live. He rightly recognizes that we are all God’s children… like it or not.
Obama on the other hand voted against a bill in the Illinois senate that would have protected babies who survive botched abortions. He sat in a room with a nurse and listened while she explained to him that these babies were left to die on a tray.
His record on abortion is not a battle he is going to win…

Today he responded that he thought a draft wasn’t such a bad idea …
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Don’t cry for O, he didn’t register. American citizens…uh..uh oh just maybe we ought to have a look at his unfaked birth certificate.
In the great tradition of George Bush: secrets everywhere!

Let the vetting begin!!!
PUMA! 9.2 million Voters and counting, coming to the polls with You!
cluck…

Puma won’t make a difference in the blue states.

Iam4this country
PROFOUND!!

3rd comment:
I really thought this would be one of the best elections ever. I have hated politics because of all the smears. I really liked McCain as he said that he would run a civil campaign based on issues. He has not. He lied. He flipflopped. Call it what you will. He says Obama would rather lose the war than an election.(and he says that is not a smear on Obama’s Patriotism?) But he would rather lose his soul than the election. He is not the same candidate that he was during the primaries. When he talks all I hear hims say is Surge, Drill, and negative attacks on Obama. If you elect McCain be prepared for the Draft to be reinstated as we will have 3 fronts to fight on. Can we all say “World War 3″?!!!

Obama is such a hypocrite…he talks about the old Washington politics, but look who is coming out with the same old types of ads. Has anyone taken the time to read how he got his start in Chicago? Yep, old Chicago style politics, kept the opposition off of the ballot by challenging petition signatures so he didn’t have to run against anyone…..The final card for me was the Saddleback forum, he did a horrible job answering questions. He just hmmm hawed around as he always does. Why anyone thinks he can negotiate with terrorist governments when he can’t even give a straight answer to a minister and his audience is beyond me. At least with McCain we know what to expect, I really see more and more of Jimmy Carter in Obama every day.

I love Obama. I was at the used car lot last week, looking at this old, beat up car, rusted from the inside out , thinking that if Obama was there as a used car salesman, he would have sold me that car, rotting from the bottom up. Obama is one heck of a showman.
I wouldn’t want him to be President though. That’s the job best fit and handled by McCain or Hillary.

Read it and weep
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.
McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama’s solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll.

“McCain is pro-life, he wants babies to live.”
Sure he does, so he can sent them to yet another war. 100 years will require a lot of soldiers.

young_voter
Tell me something? The Pentagon supports Obama’s assertion that we need to send more troops into Afghanistan. McCain is trash talking about Russia while forgetting that our troops are stretched to their limits in Iraq. What foreign policy stance has Hillary taken? That bogus Bosnia story?

McCain cheated his way at the forum on Saturday. He was late and was not in a secluded room as Pastor Warren has stated. Obama should have not gone on stage – I would have said – if I don’t see McCain here – I will not go out there. I bet you he will be on time for the debates but he played a game on Saturday night. I know McCain staff quizzed him by preparing him. All McCain talk about was not National Security – he did not talk about faith. My brother said, he knew something was funny- no way a 71 year old man could be up to the task.

Manitu: that’s exactly the problem with McCain, he always tells his audience what they want to hear.
A woman at a townhall today asked
QUESTIONER: If we don’t reenact the draft, I don’t think we’ll have anyone to chase Bin Laden to the gates of hell.
[Appaluse]
MCCAIN: Ma’am, let me say that I don’t disagree with anything you said.

McCain does not support the draft. He is one of the most outspoken people on this topic. The lady was rambling on and on and it was obvious he didn’t hear her comment on the draft.
Not that it matters to the Obama clan, but the president can’t order a draft anyway, congress has to do it.
Posted by: Draft?
You can’t be serious! Why is it that when McCain makes these stupid statements it’s because he “didn’t hear her comment”? If that were true, why didn’t he just ask her to repeat it? Your attempted defense of him is pathetic! I can’t wait to see if this story gets any legs! Let’s see if those lemmings in the MSM will follow up on this.

Hey Willem van Oranje,
Nice edit on both the question and the answer. You are severly misrepresenting both the question and the answer. McCain has spoken out against the draft more than even Obama. Neither of the candidates wants the draft, and as someone else pointed out, congress has to enact the draft, not the president.

Deborah.
PLEASE…… Questions were a piece of cake for McCain as he has been answering THE SAME QUESTIONS THIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN – NO MYSTERY HERE IF MY CANDIDATE BLEW IT AS OBAMA DID, I PROBABLY WOULD CRY,TOO. MCCAIN WAS PREPARED AND CAME OFF AS PRESIDENTIAL – PICKED UP A LOT OF FENCE SITTERS ALSO!!

Maybe Obama doesn’t release his health records because his health was never called into question? You know with the basketball and semi-frequent trips to the gym?
McCain has questionable health (how many pages was his health record from the past few years? Wasn’t it hundreds of pages?).
The question of Obama’s health does not bear asking. That’s why nobody has asked.

Iam4thiscountry
I thought Obama did a good job, too – I ESPECIALLY LIKED THE ONE ABOUT “THIS IS ABOVE MY PAY GRADE!!” VERY PRESIDENTIAL!!

dk – my name is Deborah and not Debra. I speak truth to power. I do not get my information from Sean or Rush. I get my information from Black Talk. I must tell you – all of the caller are well educated and can run circle around McCain. Yes, McCain support Bush tax cut for the rich and nothing for the middle class. I know you heard about McCain have a lobbyist who made deals with the Georgia. He knows all about that mess that is going on with Russia and Georgia. We need to watch this situation more closely. I smell a rat before the election.

Obama’s numbers were plummeting even before his extremely embarrassing appearance at the Saddleback forum. Unless he quickly renounces his past involvement with domestic terrorism his numbers will take an even deeper plunge. The sooner he comes clean on this and stops stonewalling on the requested info, the easier things will be on him. His mistake in holding on to the anti-America Jeremiah Wright for too long should have taught him that lesson.

-9.2 million voters and $50,000 in donations.-
50,000 by one of over 250 organizations nitwit..do not underestimate the power of the people, never, ever underestimate them. now go drink some more kool-aid

Sorry for the confusion Deborah. There is another poster here by the name of Debra. I did not mean to imply anything about you.

“(how many pages was his health record from the past few years? Wasn’t it hundreds of pages?)”
It was. And reporters got 20 minutes to take a look at it.
Why won’t he release them on the Internet? So we all can get a look at it?

We’re in the Carter phase of 1980. After the first debate the choice will be clear. Obama08

What foreign policy stance has Hillary taken?
Posted by: roxanne | Aug 20, 2008 10:50:21 PM
Roxanne, sweetie, I hate to tell you, but we just had a primary. Do you remember where O got his stance? That’s why they call him zerox.
Oh, you were too busy with Canada lies and not agreeing with Bill on nafta lies? Yes, the nafta that he now claims Bill was so right on. (Reagan is crying.) Or is he yet to figured it out?

Canadian heath care is a mess – even its founder has rececently stated that he wishes that he never should have proposed it. Anyone know that there are actually lotteries in many Canadian locations where the winners move up the latter for appointments to see doctors.

“The sooner he comes clean on this and stops stonewalling on the requested info”
Honey, I don’t think McCain will be very happy with his supporters claiming all sorts of ridiculous documents. McCain is Chairman of IRI.
IRI has been implicated in a LOT of VERY QUESTIONABLE and probable ILLEGAL activities.
You can expect to hear a lot about IRI in the coming months. McCain has a lot of skeletons in his own closet.

What will puma do in the blue states.
Posted by: puma what | Aug 20, 2008 11:15:04 PM
Same thing they will do in the swing states, except it will make a different there. Actually, I not sure of that anymore. In a McCain landslide it may not matter.
Don’t you love us? You keep asking about us. But don’t go Fatal Attraction on us, now.
Want to see my birth certificate?
PUMA

“”(how many pages was his health record from the past few years? Wasn’t it hundreds of pages?)”
william van tangerine
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… and Obama’s was about a paragraph long, signed by his favorite doctor.
People with slim resumes…
have slim physicals…..

-Canadian heath care is a mess-
yes, but a messy health care system is better than the richest country in the world having 70 million of uninsured and under-insured. 70 million out of 300 million. those are embarrassing statistics that any person that loves this country and what it stands for should feel shame. we are all Americans on this issue.

” I woud prefer a president that actually thinks before he opens his mouth!!!”
Well then disqualify McCain. He doesn’t think, he just parrots talking points. That’s not thought.

“After the first debate the choice will be clear. Obama08″
,,,Vanessa.
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You neglected to remember how poorly Obama does in debates, probably on purpose so that you don’t have to change the image of Obama you hold so dear to your heart.
I can understand that; I have a new puppy who, even when he piddles, I still love…..

“Obama’s head tilt to the right is a sign of a great thinker.”
A Great ???? WT.. ROFLMAO!!!!
The Great Thinker thought and thought and thought, then he said, uh, uh, ah, um, what I meant to say, uh, what umm um, that’s, that’s above my pay grade!
PUMA! 9.2 million Voters and counting, coming to the polls with You!
Feathers falling…

“You neglected to remember how poorly Obama does in debates”
The only reason people perceive him as not doing well is because he doesn’t give short 5 second talking points that can be replayed endlessly on news channels.
If you actually listen to what he is saying then he makes very valid points that make McCain’s seem ill-thought, uninformed and, frankly, inexperienced.

Ayers is a professor of Education. He teaches the people who hope to teach our children. This is a guy whose mantras included catchphrases such as “kill your parents.”
Obama lied during a debate with Clinton when he said that Ayers taught English. Of course Clinton isn’t going to call Obama out on that because Clinton’s got a radical streak herself; both she and Obama studied agitation techniques under Saul Alinsky. Obama is simply more shameless about “rubbing the sores of discontent” as recommended by Alinsky.
Several months ago I had an interesting conversation with an acquaintance of retirement age who was trying to convince me that voting for Obama was in my “own best interest.” When I mentioned Ayers and his unrepentant stance, she exclaimed that she agreed with Ayers and that he and his cronies should have blown up more stuff back in the day.

“1) Obama has never seen an abortion he didn’t approve of.”
That is a lie and a smear. What do you know, more lying from the McCain supporters. WHODATHUNKIT?
“2)He wants to bankrupt our country through the folly of socialized medicine. Look at Mexico, the only decent hospitals there are private ones.”
Yes, let us look to Mexico for what works and what doesn’t. Maybe we should take up their military directives and arbitrarily have our personnel invade countries with no reason. Oh wait…
“3) He doesn’t want to drill, not even in places we have proven reserves.”
Clearly the solution to replacing a commodity with a finite supply is to make the supply last 3 months longer. That’s long term thinking from the republican party!
“4)His good friends are Ayers and Wright. A terrorist and a racist zenophobe.”
Regrettable associations, but the Ayers association is purely harmless. Show some evidence that they are ‘good friends’ and not merely working associates. And don’t use a rumored and unsubstantiated rumor of a party as evidence).

Guilt by association again. I don’t care. There are much bigger issues.
McCain would be a dangerous President who would try to spread democracy through the use force and reenact the draft so your sons and daughters can’t say no.
And in the Independent today, we hear of McCain’s secret plan to kill the U.N.: “Charles Krauthammer, the conservative journalist who invented the plan, says: “What I like about it is, it’s got a hidden agenda. It looks as if it’s about listening and joining with allies… except the idea here, which McCain can’t say but I can, is to essentially kill the UN. Nobody’s going to walk out of the UN. There’s a lot of emotional attachment to it in the US. How do you kill it? You create a parallel institution.” Gradually – over decades – McCain hopes it would make the UN wither away.”

Obama is in a box. Every time he questions anything about McCain, all McCain’s camp has to do is pick up one of the Obama books on the bestseller’s list, and throw one of his many, many, many past indiscretions, associations and mistakes back at him. The only problem is picking what piece of dirt to throw.
Obama is toast! Bye. Bye.

The right wingers cant stand that McCain’s coverup of the Reed/Abramof/Riley scandal is coming out into the daylight.
The reason they cant stand it is that is shows how the right wing has played its religious allies for dupes, using them as a means of obtaining money and nothing more.
That “religious” leaders allow this thing to happen casts a terrible light on organized religion.
There are only two kinds of Republican – millionaires and suckers.

Dear Karen, know the phrase Glass Houses and Throwing Stones??
Apparently you haven’t read the article. The article lays it out in very clear terms: Obama is not the one ‘stonewalling’ the documents; the Univerity is not ‘stonewalling’ the documents; the University is “aggressively pursuing” an agreement with the donor of the documents.
But if you think it will work for you to act like spoiled little children having temper tantrums every time they want candy. Be my guest.
This is what the article says
” The university’s Chicago campus maintains that the donor of the records that document the work of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge has not handed over ownership rights. The university says it is “aggressively pursuing” an agreement with the donor, and as soon as an agreement is reached, the collection will be made accessible to the public. The university has not identified the donor.
The Obama campaign says the senator does not have control over these records or the ability to release them, adding that it has made many documents related to Obama’s life available to the public and that “we are pleased the university is pursuing an agreement that would make these records publicly available.”

So? Anybody got an answer why McCain never called on Ralph Reed to testify?

The Reed/Abramoff association is absolutely relevant to John McCain’s candidacy: John McCain was Chairman of the Committee that was directly responsible for investigating ethics charges. McCain exercised his authority – his judgment – and decided an investigation was not necessary. We now know that there were indeed serious violations that could have been – should have been – would have been exposed earlier if John McCain had been truly independent of the K Street Republican Mob that controlled Congress (as I recall, John McCain had nothing to do with uncovering Abramoff scandal).
In sharp contrast, Bill Ayers’ anti-Vietnam War activities took place in the late 1960s, when Obama was a child. The fact that nearly 40 years later, the two men served their community by tackling Chicago’s public education crisis through their work on a highly-acclaimed, prestigious nonprofit Board is actually an association that both men should be rightfully proud of.
Deep down, I highly doubt that McCain could say the same about his associations with Abramoff & Reed.

Barack Obama for president!
He is the true leader and he will put the people first, not special interest groups! He is a man of character and intellect, unlike John McCain who cheated on his first wife, left her and the kids, and married a woman 20 years younger than him, he makes me sick! We need change in Washington and John McCain is more of the same!

This ad isn’t Obama “attacking”.
An attack ad is one where your opponent say’s things like, “your wife is ugly!”, “you’re unpatriotic!”, “you’re a vapid bimbo!”, or some such nonsense.
In politics it is not an “attack” to question your opponents record or public past.
McCain has run dishonest, baseless, frivolous, and downright silly attack ads. Obama hasn’t.

UMMM lets see that was really the I’m a differant kind of politican(yes Obama) who started the whos who of nasty charectors hiding in the closet attack. Must be Obamas forgotten his long list of shady charectors,Wright,Rezko,and I’m proud I bombed Americans Ayers.This one term Senator with no experience and no concept of foriegn policy dufus is amazing. I want a clean campaign,I’ll take public financing oops geez I’m getting more money from donations I can always say I never promised.Obama promises and his campaign platforms will be as easily forgotten as those two promises were.

Rezko is supposed to be sentenced on September 2.

Why would they want to keep the records a secret?

Lisa, from Obama Chief Strategist David Axelrod: “Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school … They’re certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together.”
Oh wait; I get it! Since Axelrod said it, Obama is scot free – just like when he says he didn’t know anything about that survey in the IL State Senate that had his handwritten notations on it. Got it.
A new kind of politics where staffers do all the work so they can take all the blame. And any heavy lifting is above Obama’s paygrade.

Revolution We Can Believe In!
- Chairman Mao Zedong
Yes we can, Chairman. Let me be just a small devil, it’s Change for me.

I am all for all documents coming to light. Hillary’s stuff, McCain’s Military records, Bush’s Air National Guard records and Obama’s education committee records. Pleas look at the relationships of these and what they really mean. Obama was a child in the 1960s as was I. Does anyone think that Obama chose to have Ayres sit on the same committee with him? It association by living your life. Give it up or put everything on the table.

Yes
Yes
Yes, Mary Lou!
Daley is naturally blocking access to the documents.
It would be a good idea for the public to see just intertwined Obama and Ayers are.

Uh Uh, ee, ee, you know, but, but,
Let me be very clear.
We know John McCain and his past. He isn’t trying to hide anything.
Unlike Obama who offers lame excuses whenever he is confronted. How can you trust a candidate who calls a pro-life group liars just to hide his extremely radical abortion record.
He supported infanticide then tried to cover it up. What a thoughtful politician.

Another good ad by the obama camp.
Obama hits back with facts – mccain reacts like this is a junior high class presidential election. The electorate will soon grow tired of the mccain camp insulting their intelligence.

By the way Obama, Who is Mike Klonsky? Oh yeah, not only a friend of Ayers and a recipient of some of the Annenberg Challenge monies; Klonsky was a hardline maoists in the SDS in the late 60’s, later forming a pro-Chinese sect called the October League that morphed into the Beijing-recognized Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) and who is now a member of the Obama campaign. The more we find out, the uglier it gets. And Obama wants to bring up Reed??