A Confusing Comment on Fannie & Freddie From Gov. Sarah Palin
Saturday in Colorado Springs, Colo., Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said, "The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers. The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help."
"Too expensive to the taxpayers?"
They’re private entities.
Though they’re private entities ultimately backed up by the taxpayers.
But the only way Fannie and Freddie are "too expensive to the taxpayers" is if you’re talking about the bailout announced over the weekend.
Is that what she meant?
So, does "too expensive" mean that Palin opposes the bailout?
Or did she misstate how these entities function?
I asked the McCain-Palin campaign for an explanation.
Its response was to send an e-mail from domestic policy adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin:
“John McCain supports the steps needed to keep the financial troubles at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from further squeezing American families, and endorses the idea that management and shareholders should not benefit from government backing," Holz-Eakin said. "While details are not yet available, the actions taken today are consistent with those objectives. Fannie and Freddie have been the poster children for a lack of transparency and accountability, and remind us of the needed reforms to financial markets in general. We need to create jobs and get the economy going — and get way from the practice of sticking Main Street Americans with these bills. If elected, John McCain will continue his crusade for the right reform of the institutions. Sen. McCain will get real regulation that limits their ability to borrow, shrinks their size until they are no longer a threat to our economy, and privatizes and eliminates their links to the government.”
Right.
That doesn’t really answer my question.
A McCain aide e-mails on background that Fannie and Freddie "have $5 trillion in exposure. They either own or insure this much in loans, as such, they are too big a part of the economy to be allowed to fail. Their failure would pose a systemic risk to the economy, which is why treasury is stepping in, and has committed billions in taxpayers to keep them afloat. They are too big, and now, too expensive."
So — according to this aide, speaking on background — Palin meant they are CURRENTLY too expensive, though presumably she supports the Bush administration’s bailout.
What do you think? You buy that explanation?
- jpt
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I will buy and vote for it. It got too expensive for the taxpayers to not take action.
What did Obama mean by his “muslim faith”?
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Nice to see Jake back to spewing DNC talking points.
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
This is what happens when your majority of “executive experience” is 6 years as mayor of a town you left $20M in debt.
This is where Plain hurts herself not doing interviews. A simple follow up question could have cleared it up in terms of what she meant.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Here we go… JPT answers his own question and still feels the need to nitpick Palin. Who do you think is bailing out these entities? You guessed it, the American taxpayers. So how is her statement factually incorrect?
Posted by: padhorn | September 8, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Thank you for actually doing some real reporting on the new VP McCain pick. Goes to show how much she does not know about economic issues. Pretty scary. I don’t believe the McCain spin.
Posted by: Laurie | September 8, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
This woman is dumber then a box of rocks. Why the heck didn’t McCain pick Kay Bailey Hutchison or another intelligent woman in the GOP. We have lots of smart GOP women, Palin is an embarrassment.
Posted by: Chuck | September 8, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
“Though they’re private entities ultimately backed up by the taxpayers”
That can’t be too hard to underatand is it? The taxpayers wind up getting shafted. Why is it Washington insiders have so much trouble understanding plain English. Jakes needs Biden to go on a 20 minute rant to explain what too expensive for the taypayers means.
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Yes, I buy it. It seems the MSM is trying to twist and morph any words they can from Sara Palin into a mistake. Instead of reporting the news fairly , we get a bunch of jackals and vultures waiting to pounce on every spoken word by the new girl on the block. Sad really.
Posted by: Jay | September 8, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
“Palins first major Gaffe”
Gov. Sarah Palin made her first potentially major gaffe during her time on the national scene while discussing the developments of the perilous housing market this past weekend.
Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” The companies, as McClatchy reported, “aren’t taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization.”
Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.
Posted by: watching | September 8, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
She doesn’t know
Posted by: Sam | September 8, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
This is just the beginning. The woman has no clue — and we are getting ready to find out the extent of that.
Posted by: hang | September 8, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
My gawd, geevil graduated from the same school of economic as Palin did!
Posted by: Chuck | September 8, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
“Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.”
Liberal group. no wonder.
We get it Jake, You think Palin is an airhead.
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
A Mayor, a Governor and a career politician, and you say she has no clue. I think she has way more clues than Obama ever will about running anything.
Posted by: Jay | September 8, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
its a shame the problem got this out of control. because any TRUE fiscal conservative would 10 times out of ten, say that fannie and freddie should be left alone to FAIL. and i completely agree. but if this is done in this situation, it could be catastrophic to the mortgage industry on top of its already bad situation. so, that being said, i dont blame any RESPONSIBLE politician saying that the government needs to bail these two out. BUT WE SHOULD LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES!!! why did it have to be this way? who is to blame for the problem getting to the point of “government salvation”? as a fiscal conservative, it absolutely sickens me that “we the people” have to bail these private entities out. but we have no choice. it has to be done. now we just have to find out how, who, and whhy this happened and elect people who WONT LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
From the sound of it she didn’t know that it wasn’t a government entity, so like everything else McCain is reduce the size of Government.
She hadn’t a clue.
Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
What do you expect from someone that doesn’t know what a VP does?
Posted by: AkaDad | September 8, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
“Who do you think is bailing out these entities? You guessed it, the American taxpayers. So how is her statement factually incorrect?”
Bailout was announced post her comments.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
yeah What a slam job. Face it DEMS GONNA LOSE. what a CHOKE! Would not be surprised to see Obama kick Biden and try to get Hillary back. What an idiot abandoning 18 million supporters. McCain Palin will win, then she will be first US WOMAN PRESIDENT with a Palin / JINDAL ticket.
Posted by: tom | September 8, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
If she was referring to the bailout, I guess the banks and airlines are also “Too expensive to the taxpayers”
Posted by: pooka | September 8, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
To summarize Obama
“We can’t have, yada,yada,yada, taxpayers, blah,blah,blah, bail them out.”
You buy that either?
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
An article in the Wall Street Journal this morning (“Mounting Woes Left Officials With Little Room to Maneuver”) describes the deliberations of officials leading up to this weekend’s government takeover:
“Financial institutions, investors and other market participants were painting a grim picture: Investors weren’t going to invest more in the company unless Treasury kicked in some money, or made clear what would happen to those who did pony up funds.
“Treasury asked how much money it would need to inject. It soon became clear that no amount was going to be enough. If Treasury were to inject $10 billion, the market would want to see $20 billion. If Treasury put forth $20 billion, the market would want $30 billion.”
The newspaper says that this was in “mid-August.” That “no amount was going to be enough” for the Treasury sounds like it would justify Palin’s comment of “too expensive to the taxpayers.”
Posted by: Jack Stephens | September 8, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Sara Palin is a brilliant politician, and she will prove that in her debate with Old Man Biden.
In your dreams Jay Bird. McCain had his chance to pick a real conservative but went with bird brain. She won’t last, McCain is straining his resources holding her up. I worked for McCain in 2000, now he’s just a POS sellout.
Posted by: Chuck | September 8, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Obama, talking of possible changes to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, said: “We can’t have a situation in which, during boom times, management and investors are soaking up huge profits, taking extraordinary risks, and thinking to themselves that if they get into trouble because of these risky investments that somehow the taxpayers
are going to be there to bail them out.”
Once more. Here is Obama’s Statement. He says the same thing in his pompous class warfare liberal speak. but the bottom line is the same. cost to taxpayer
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
I guess she decided to ad lib from the prepared remarks on the teleprompter.
Posted by: Dawn | September 8, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Chuck ata 3:04..Kay B. Hutchison is a snore and can’t compare with Palin, that’s why she wasn’t chosen as VP pick!
I saw Barb Boxer chew her up on CNN this weekend.
McCain/Palin …..real Mavericks, reformers….shaking Washington up….appointing DEMS and Reps. to his cainet, the best and brightest. Wealthy ones only take $1 a year. He wants his staff to make sacrifices!
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
I thought she was smart and well informed after her speech. I’ve seen her stumping and she says the same thing over and over, then, when she tries to form an opinon that isn’t givin to her by handlers she has no clue what she’s talking about. This is the worst decision in VP history! Mclame is just going for “celebrity” staus with this one maybe Palin and Brittney’s mom should go have coffie and try to figure the economy and child raising out!
Posted by: Joe | September 8, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
This comment stands as proof that John McCain put politics ahead of the county with his selection of the woefully underqualified Sarah Palin. She said she is against earmarks, but hired a lobbyist while mayor of Wasilla (pop. 5,000) and was for The Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it. This woman is a ball of contradictions and the fact that John McCain selected her should have Democrats AND Republicans concerned. It is like John McCain calling himself a Maverick – when he voted with George Bush more than 90 percent of the time. Sounds like a sidekick to me.
Posted by: David Michaels | September 8, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Gas is too expensive now. But a lot of people still drive to work instead of bicycling.
Posted by: Julian | September 8, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Well Pbama was wrong and his now doing a flip flop. the Taxpayers will have to bail them out. Palin was right. Obama was wrong.
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Stupid questions like this from liberal media pundits is what is fueling the poll numbers in John McCain favor. The more she is attacked, the more sympathy Gov Palin gets. Keep em coming Jake.
Posted by: Angie | September 8, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Get “canned” did ya Chuck??
Posted by: Marcus | September 8, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Tom….at 3:10…I like that Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012! Unless Hillary is in the race and shakes it up good next time.
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
She’s absolutely right. I heard on the news this morning that 1/2 the mortgages in America are financed through these two giants – and guess who’s left holding the bag in case of failure (like now) – the TAXPAYERS!
Posted by: marylou | September 8, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Titling this “A Confusing Comment on Fannie & Freddie from Gov. Sarah Palin” is leaning way over to be kind to her. It should be “A Confused (or Mistaken) Comment on Fannie & Freddie from Gov. Sarah Palin”
Posted by: RD | September 8, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
57 states and counting .. SIGH!
Posted by: Marcus | September 8, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
“My Muslim faith”…….Barack Obama 09/07/08
If Obama can slip over his tongue, anyone can.
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Steve | September 8, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
david michaels…
first off, ALL politicians have scandals! you just have to get informed on which ones are real and which ones arent. obama has more scandal than palin does. bottom line. so , if your going to come in here and try to point out the vote should be decided on so called “scandals”, its pointless. it comes down to WHAT THE CANIDATES SAY IN THEIR OWN WORDS. if you like obamas marxist views on governments role versus the ” same ol’ republican propaganda”, then go vote for obama. simple as that.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
I really would like to Jake to explain why he is so confused by the statement “too expensive for taxpayers”. Even Obama admits the taxpayers would wind up footing the bill. I see plain talk-stupid
fancy talk -smart.
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Obama talks about a costly bailout for taxpayers that was just announced.
Plain talks about a big and costly program to taxpayers that she and McCain will make smaller, smarter and more efficient as if she were referring to Social Security or MediCare.
In the right wing mind those statements are equivalent.
I think watching FoxNews actually takes away IQ points.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Lemme see now, right off the top of my head: Brilliant Mayor Palin left little Wasilla 20 million in debt-lawsuits are pending because of that great sports complex she had built and didn’t have the brains to have right away taken care of before it was built-Little matter of billing the state of Alaska for trips she made to her church in Wasilla-ethics probes-her bridge to nowhere lies-…the list goes on and on.
Posted by: Chuck | September 8, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Julian – how many people do you know who actually live close enough to work to bicycle there? Me – not many! I’ve always laughed at that .. yep, let’s get up at 3AM to bicycle into work! Then head home during rush hour and get home by 10PM!
Posted by: Marcus | September 8, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I don’t know what poll you’re looking at (FAUX NEWS I suspect) but a poll today had it 48-48 with 4 percent undecided. Doesn’t sound like toast to me. Especially with Sarah Palin’s incompetence coming to light more and more with each passing day. Where will the GOP hide this embarrasment for the next two months?
Posted by: David Michaels | September 8, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Yep, I buy it. The entire fiasco is definitely affecting the economy in a negative way.
Posted by: KB | September 8, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Keep on talking Palin….show us ignorant you really are.Cheney likes her…how scary is that.Palin/Cheney/Bush.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 8, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Re: Wasilla’s debt
Wasilla is building a new sports stadium which accounts for the debt. That’s how communities grow.
Posted by: marylou | September 8, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Gosh now it is the Liberal Elite Media and Obama’s Fault
I am sick of this sexism, you are putting too much pressure on her.
LOL
Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
every campaign stop you hear
Look at me!!!!
My son is going to Iraq
I have a special needs baby…see
HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT MY PREGNANT 17 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER – MEDIA
Posted by: get real | September 8, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Ummm, aren’t we really talking about the briefing that the candidates got from SecTreas yesterday? Biden demurred when asked on MTP- saying he’d rather wait for the announcement. I guess Palin couldn’t hold her tongue. Either that or they have not gotten to the Econ 101 for VPs briefing w/Phil Gramm yet.
The first of many gaffes I’m sure. Heaven help us!
Posted by: jerseyboy | September 8, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
geevill, he meant exactly what you think he meant. personally i’m waiting for the rapture because I hear the Guvna thinks her Alaskan church will be a sactuary during the end times.
she’s a hoot.
Posted by: marcus | September 8, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Obama
“We can’t have a situation in which, during boom times, management and investors are soaking up huge profits, taking extraordinary risks, and thinking to themselves that if they get into trouble because of these risky investments that somehow the taxpayers
are going to be there to bail them out.”
So Obama is against the bailout right? It cost taxpayers nothing if we don’t bail them out right?
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
I hate to say it and I’m sure I am going to get some heat for this but:
is it just me or does Sarah Palin seems a little bit dumb?
Posted by: John | September 8, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
“WHAT MAKES BARACK OBAMA MORE CREDIBLE ON THE ECONOMY THAN SARAH PALIN”
1st thing is he knows the difference between private and public entities.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
geevil…
oh i know they wont answer. thats why its the best thing to say in here. im not a huge mccain supporter. i just like to look at things fairly. so, all these leftists who come in here and say this and that and sling mud with no facts, its the best thing you can ask them: why would barack obama do it better? and they never have an answer.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Why no headline that McCain wants a bipartisan cabinet….best, brightest, DEMS and Reps….salaries of $1. If this was Bozo’s idea it would make headlines….the “Unifier”. Ask Lieberman and Biden….McCain is the McMan!
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Tim,
How about the simple fact that Barack Obama has formulated an economic proposal that will bring about real change.
All Sarah Palin has done is take a city with a budget in the black and run it into the red. She governs the 47th largest state in population. Her resume is so thin, it’s almost transparent.
I presume you are a Republican. You, too, should be alarmed by Palin’s incompetence. It is rather scary.
Posted by: David Michaels | September 8, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
In effect FMAC & FMAY are government programs. They are backed fully by the government in case of a catastrophic failure which is already happening.
Posted by: Jay | September 8, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
How about her statement about making them smaller, smarter and more efficient, geevil?
She is right. What about Obnam’s statement. He says nothing.
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Tim – Probably because you are insulting. Obama is running against McCain and the Palin addition was a cow to the far right on McCain’s part. Palin has had some “economy” practice with her local hockey rink she can take up with Joe Biden…
The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.
The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin’s legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
tim
Since 1930 (the first year decent data is available), GDP growth was 5.4 percent for Democratic presidents and 1.6 percent for Republicans.
Looking at the 72-year period between 1927 and 1999, the study shows that a broad stock index, similar to the S&P 500, returned approximately 11 percent more a year on average under a Democratic president versus safer, three-month Treasurys. By comparison, the index only returned 2 percent more a year versus the T-bills when Republicans were in office.
Democrats are better for the economy. Period.
Posted by: AkaDad | September 8, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Careful Jake, McCain may be forced into canceling that interview with ABC
Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
As an Obama supporter, I think this is a non-issue. She simply mis-spoke. Move on.
This is the problem with a lot you guys in the MSM. You get caught up in this trivial crap and let the real issues (lies about the bridge to nowhere; the deficit she ran up as a mayor; her husbands affliliation to a separatist group; etc.) get lost in the weeds.
Posted by: Francis | September 8, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Its too late to try to insult Mccain/Palin
you people spent months ridiculing Clinton who was the right candidate at the right time and now you will have to pay litterally and figuratively for what youve done!
Posted by: staniam | September 8, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Marylou: the sports stadium is already built…..however since Palin approved it and started building it before the proper papers were signed…the law suits continue.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 8, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Wasilla is building a new sports stadium which accounts for the debt. That’s how communities grow.
The sport stadium is already built. I’ve seen it and it’s tied up in legal claims that MS Palin didn’t have to brains to take care of.
Posted by: Chuck | September 8, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
ryan…
first off, if you actually want to try to spin this into sarah palin dosent know that fannie mae and freddie mac are private entities, you have zero credibility.. lol im an average guy who pays attention a little bit, and i know the difference. so dont make stupid things up in defense of a real question. so if you want to try to give a real answer, please do… what makes barack obama more qualified than sarah palin on the economy?
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
The REAL fact is FNMA and FRMC are private entities that are government-sponsored enterprises – GSEs.
Sarah Palin incorrectly identified them in her comments – very alarming.
Posted by: David Michaels | September 8, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Marcus – that’s my point. Those people have no better choices than driving to work.
Posted by: Julian | September 8, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Why are you all so jealous of FOX news….could it be their #1 STANDING IN THE RATINGS FOR YEARS? CNN #2, and the ridiculous MSNBC #3. Please, don’t be frightened that majority of Americans are right of center and watch FAIR AND BALANCED FOX NEWS. Your cable news channels could get a bump in the ratings if they’d throw away their liberal leanings….we’re SICK of it…look at poor Matthews and Olberman…boo hoo.
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Palin is correct on this one.
Next!
Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
The media performs a very important function in our society–there would be no democracy without it. An example would be today’s Russia with only state run news–an authoritarian government run by Vladimir Putin.
Palin knew her life would be scrutinized down to the very personal details including her family. If that is a problem, then she should back out. Seems that John McCain may have dropped the ball on her vetting process. Everyone should be concerned about the allegations of abuse of power, firing or attempting to fire librarians, supervisors, troopers, etc.
Unless one is a millionaire, when you vote Republican, you vote against your own best economic iterests. We are in economic failure due to the policies of a Republican administration. Also, even if McCain were to be elected, he would still face a Democratic congress who control the purse strings. Gridlock will prevail.
Posted by: Kit | September 8, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Palin has it easy with Alaska receiving subsidies from the oil companies. She really doesn’t need to balance the budget and at one point they were even paying people to move to Alaska.
Obama’s managed a fiscally responsible campaign and in his plans for the country he lays out how he would pay for all of his proposals.
Palin, is an earmark queen. She worked with Senator Ted Stevens to secure funding for many pork barrel projects for the state of Alaska. She was for the bridge to nowhere, then when it fell under scrutiny, she changed her position.
And, Obama is not running against Palin, he’s running against McCain.
What makes McCain a better person to deal with the economy what are his plans? Tax breaks for big business? Making Bush’s tax cuts permanent and continuing the economic policies of the last 8 years? Because I have to tell you, I don’t think it’s working too well.
Posted by: Topher | September 8, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
“Wasilla is building a new sports stadium which accounts for the debt. That’s how communities grow.”
Let’s talk about the stadium.
How Palin messed up her original purchase from the Nature Conservatory, how the land was bought by someone else, how the the city sued and lost their case against that landowner, then how the city grabbed the property via emminent domain.
It does make me paugh that you guys recoil in horror at taxes going up on people making $250K or greater but are just fine with a $20M debt in a town of less than 10000. That’s over $2000 for every single person in town regardless of age.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
“In effect FMAC & FMAY are government programs. They are backed fully by the government in case of a catastrophic failure which is already happening.”
***********************************
Infact they were not! Just recently the Feds decided to back the securities to prevent them from going belly up. The latest is that they are going belly up so now we have to take them over.
Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Marcus – that’s my point. Those people have no better choices than driving to work, even though gas is too expensive.
Posted by: Julian | September 8, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Sigh. Maybe we taxpayers are tired of funding bad investments like Fannie and Freddie. There is NOTHING confusing about that.
Posted by: Sick of It | September 8, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
This whole housing crises is a joke caused by too many people buying houses they can not afford and not reading the small print. And yes, it will cost taxpayers billions to bail out and take over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. She made a correct statement.
ABC needs to stop distorting the Republicans statements, policies and agenda. Trapper could be the next Chris Matthews.
Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Debra- It’s nice McCain is following in Obama’s footsteps since he spoke of Republicans, Independents and Dems all in his cabinet. From late February in the Times “Earlier Obama had told the audience at a suburban high school rally in Dallas, Texas, that he intended to follow the example of his hero, President Abraham Lincoln, and appoint a cabinet of the talents, irrespective of party labels.”
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Sarah McSame is glad to answer any and all questions from anyone! Just apply the following, in any order, mix and match for fun!
Answer 1. Obama bad.
Answer 2. What ever McCain says.
Posted by: Joe | September 8, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
tim
the reasons that Obama and Biden are stronger on economy…are vast
taxes focusing on those who can take that hit rather than the area that is the engione of our economy to start with (as opposed to someone who is running on “no taxes” a lie…so in the end when they have to tax …which they have to duh…the numbers show that we will… and they will spread the tazx so the brunt isn’t on those who can handle it better)
healthcare…no change
banking no change and from Palin’s comments …no brains.
the list is far too long why Obama and Biden are better for 80 to 90 % of the country.
so stop the bologne.
and just to add
this story above is just the start …this woman is THE WORST decision in the history of Presidential nominations…
she has NO SUBSTANTIAL KNOWLEDGE …Record of grasp … intricate comprehension…of a single issue facing our country that could destroy us…
the most tactically selfish judgment in American history for a presidential candidate…
risking the FATE of the nation on a choice that was tactical but has NEVER SHOPWN any record of understanding ANY of the issues facing us that could destroy us.
and now we see them continuing the Bush Cheney Rove Rumsfeld ethics of hiding their mistakes …drawing fire to the press…and hiding the winesses…
just like they (this team that mccain hired to lead with him) did with wmd, katrina, enron, judicial appointments, Libby, and the list goes on…all the way to Palin and jets on ebay…
throw these crooks out.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
paige…
ok, first i will reply to you because you replied to me first. ok, where do i start. first off, i asked why you think BARACK OBAMA WILL DO A BETTER JOB ON THE ECONOMY. i didnt ask why you didnt like sarah palin. you gave me no reason why YOU think he will do better. plus, you focussed just on her job as mayor of wasilla. she has been GOVENOR for 2 years. so ill just leave it at that for right now.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I would be very impressed if in less than a week, the governor of Alaska–who has demonstrated so far that she is very adept at sarcasm–was able to master all the subtleties of the mortgage crisis described in the response email.
I guess these people really believe that the American people are stupid. But again, Rick Davis said this election was not about issues. So I guess in the end, it doesn’t matter if the governor speaks nonsensical.
Posted by: Lance D. | September 8, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Hopefully just the first of the media reporting the gaffes/lies by Gov. Palen. Katrina, four dollar gas, a trillion dollar war, rising unemployment, deregulated housing market, global warming, and now fake change… Americans should have had enough of Republicans.
Posted by: demjustice | September 8, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
She didn’t know– I’m sure they’ll prep her in time for the next one.
Posted by: Claudia | September 8, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Maybe Palin can renegotiate the nuclear deal with Russia that Bush just cancelled today. Being her foreign policy experience consists of being so close to Russia..Have her paddle over there and she if she can get the deal going again.Apparently her experience is good enough to the reps so lets give her a chance to prove herself.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 8, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Do the Math….McCain + Palin = “Bridge to Nowhere”
Posted by: Brian | September 8, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
How is it confusing? It’s pretty clear she is painfully ignorant about Freddie and Fannie’s role in the mortgage crisis.
It’s pretty clear she’s painfully ignorant about a lot of things.
Oh well. It’ll all get sorted out when The Rapture happens.
Posted by: Patricia in SF | September 8, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Paige
its a bit odd that Obamas hero was the first Republican president! I think he was gaming the system and trying to play both sides…. but when it comes down to it on offer far left proposals
Posted by: staniam | September 8, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
I am hearing reports that Obama absolutely got owned in the O’Reilly interview.
Tune in tonight to watch Obama squirm.
TOTAL SELF-DESTRUCT!
O’Reilley and Obama
Monday
September 8
8:00 PM Eastern
FOX
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary ’12
Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Jake, they still didnt answer your question– or at least didnt understand it in order to not answer it like those crazy truth stretching republicans tend to do….
Can you stay on them on this? She clearly didnt know what Fannie and Freddie are or what they do and how they are set up so it does require some questioning or clarification on her comment- What was she saying? Does she know details of the plan congress already had in place prior to this weekend?
This is very good reporting Jake, just go deeper.
Jeff
Posted by: Democrat in LA | September 8, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Obama is a good part of the housing crisis. He and others in Congress looked the other way and received sweetheart loans in return.
The democrats in power chair all the oversight committees. Where were they?
This congress is corrupt. CORRUPT!
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
She’s a hocky mom. She doesn’t understand economics.
Posted by: Don | September 8, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
akadad…
ok, im not going to dispute those numbers directly because i dont have the facts with me, im not sure if they are accurate or not, but secondly, you think barack obama is the typical democrat that has been involved in those numbers?! the TRUE democrats of the 60′s, 70′s and 80′s?! this guy has a TOTAL different mindset from a true democrat.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
New Gallup Poll:
Obama Dropping, McCain-Palin Rising
McCain ahead by 5 in latest pollng numbers! And guess what, the polling sample has more Democrats in it than Republicans.
Love it!
Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Oh well. It’ll all get sorted out when The Rapture happens.
Patricia in SF
——————————–
Believe me, it won’t be late before it does.
Posted by: Lance D. | September 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
FoxNews only viewers are 4 times as likely to believe things that are not true as people who watch only other cable shows.
The reason people dislike FoxNews is because they are a propaganda outfit for the Republican party.
Bush’s former press secretary said as much in his book and interviews since. And internal memo have surfaced about their very deliberate shading of the news to beneficial to the Republican party.
The reason americans right of center watch foxnews is that they like news that conforms to their political views.
That’s just pathetic.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Palin uses tax payers money to buld a sports stadium for all its residents and those in the Mat-Su Valley. Obama uses tax payer money to support Trinty Church and help build a mansion for the Rev. Wright. On this one, Palin wins again.
Posted by: Martin | September 8, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
patricia
you can make fun of someones religious beliefs all you want but there arent enough liberals in SF to counteract the wave of people going over to Mccain/Palin it all started when BO was in SF saying that peopel cling to their guns and religion and have antipathy for people who arent like them thats exactly why he chose palin and exactly why they will win… the media questions on whether Palin got the facts right are moot at this point!
Posted by: staniam | September 8, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
she doesn’t know what she is talking about
this is the 30 second soundbite with no comprehension at work
and it is just the beginning…
this woman has NO record of understanding a single issue facing us…
and, no, building a pipeline in an oil and gas economy dependent state and calling for more drilling is not “energy expertise” ugh…and/or a plan to get us off energy dependence and address the risk of global warming that will destroy our kids if the naysayers who go against science are wrong.
and this woman…goes against science.
the worst choice in our history as a nation… all for political games…
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
palin is a massive risk and the campaign knows this thats why they arent doing interviews tahts why shes only using teleprompter and tahts why she has a set interview about how much she likes ice cream….
she gives one comment and its all screwed up… they cant afford this…
here is how the debate will go
biden will you please explain what a stable iraq and the outcome of victory will look like…
biden gives a fairly detailed and very reasonable explanation
palin, what is your favorite frozen yogurt?
lol
i hope she gets more of a chance to answer more questions that normal people who are running for office have to answer on a regular basis.
and geevil this freedie and fannie not democratic talking points
they didnt make her answer this way
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 8, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Paige at 3:31, you’re right…sort of like when BO took on Biden, who thinks he’s not ready to be Prez. and his good buddy John McCain is better for the job. That was a great decision by BO…NOT.
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Obama = One Billion Dollars in Earmarks
McCain = Zero Dollars
Obama talks about CHANGE but those are some serious amounts of US taxpayer DOLLARS.
Hillary 2012
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Martin
imagine the Obamabots still trying to pressure people at this late date! THe Obama/Biden ticket was never going to win but if Obama picked Hillary he at least had a chance you people are all patently absurd!
Posted by: staniam | September 8, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Tim she’s been govenor for 18 months! Obama has been campaining longer than that! I’m so sick of ultra right wing consrvatives I could puke!
Posted by: Joe | September 8, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
tim
Obama’s plan includes fixing our infrastructure. That always creates job. Investing in alternative energy will create jobs. His middle class tax cuts will create jobs.
It’s what Democrats do. Just compare the economy under Clinton compared to Bush.
Posted by: AkaDad | September 8, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Martin
actually it was the republicans who took taxpayer moneys and built Trinity Church.
Palin did build the sports complex though…
that her town is still in debt from and just settled the last of the lawsuits from her GREAT judgement on another issue…ugh
keep her away from the national kiddie.
ugh
the worst choice in Presidential history…Mccain picking Palin and throwing the fate of our country under the bus heaven forbid he gets cancer again …we all go down with him…
ugh
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Tim- you are starting to scare me a bit. What happened to McCain? Isn’t he at the top of your ticket? I threw the hockey rink story in for good measure. The only thing Palin does for McCain is prove he is NOT a Maverick. He couldn’t even stand up to the far right wing of his party and choose the VP he really wanted.
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
bhrandon
still making no sense after all these months… forget about Obama/biden now they are done!
Posted by: staniam | September 8, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
dl…
stealing from the rich to give to the poor is not wat america is about. thats one of the basic ideas of marxism. im not even going to defend it other than that because yu and i CLEARLY have a different idea on the fundamentals of what american government should do with taxes. i believe its more of a SPENDING problem, while you and barack believe its a TAXING issue. and he wants to punish the peolpe with the money to fight for the “litle guy”. you dont think that would be partially due to getting votes do you?! the same thing with all the other government handouts? welfare? college education? socialized healthcare? it all sounds good, but THEY WANT TO CREATE DEPENDENCY ON THE GOVERNMENT. and unfortunately, there are more and more uninformed, lazy americans who are fighting for this. very sad.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Ryan at 3:36….spin away. AMERICANS, MAJORITY ARE RIGHT OF CENTER….FOX NEWS #1 IN RATINGS….WHAT DON’T YOU GET?
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Obama hasn’t asked for any earmarks this year. Last year, he asked for $311 million worth, about $25 for every Illinois resident. Alaska asked this year for earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 for every Alaska citizen.
Posted by: Thinking | September 8, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
slowly but certainly America will discover Palin and will understand that beyond the exploitation of her family misfortunes with a disable son and a teenage pregnant daughter, she is not bringing anything to lift-up America’s middle class families. McCain does not understand anything ever. As correctly said, McSame+Palin is a bridge for nowhere.
Posted by: BKMC | September 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Millions of Jobs Added
Truman 1949 -1952 5.2
Eisenhower 1953 – 1956 2.7
Eisenhower 1957 – 1960 0.8
Kennedy/Johnson 1961 – 1964 5.7
Johnson 1965 – 1968 9.8
Nixon 1969 – 1972 6.1
Nixon/Ford 1972 – 1976 5.2
Carter 1977 – 1980 10.4
Reagan 1981 – 1984 5.2
Reagan 1985 – 1988 10.8
Bush 1989 – 1992 2.5
Clinton 1993 – 1996 11.6
Clinton 1997 – 2000 11.5
Bush 2001 – 2004 (0.1)
Bush 2005 – 2008 5.1
Even Jimmy Carter’s one term created more jobs than Bush’s two terms.
Posted by: AkaDad | September 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
She didn’t/doesn’t know how the GSE’s operate. She doesn’t know how the largest players in the housing market work at a time when the housing crisis is one of the chief economic problems we face.
Why is it so hard for the MSM tojust come right out and tell your audience that a candidate for Vice-President of the United States doesn’t know something so basic about a fundamental aspect of the economy?
Posted by: Brien | September 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
“If she was referring to the bailout, I guess the banks and airlines are also “Too expensive to the taxpayers”"
Palin will make them smaller, smarter and more efficient!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Looking forward to Palin’s actual interview later this week- real questions and everything- I hope ABC News will have some tough questions for her… or will they offer her a pillow like the media did with Obama for some time? Guess she’s getting a “tutoring session” every day- sounds like she needs it!
It’s very clear that she is clueless about Fannie and Freddie!!
Posted by: angela | September 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
dl
whether you like it or night Obama/biden will not win now the Clinton people are serious that we would rather wait till 2012 andwe will and you will live with it!
Posted by: staniam | September 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
This is simple. She meant what she said and what she said clearly shows that she has no idea what she’s talking about. Any objective reading of her time as mayor and governor also clearly shows she is an ignoramus. She has a narcissistic personality disorder that propels her forward, mowing down all obstacles in her path, and flummoxes those around her because it is so hard to believe that someone so stupid could get so far. These are people who are almost impossible to beat because they are so irrational and rational argument cannot penetrate their defenses. They are the embodiment of “don’t confuse me with facts, my mind’s made up.” It explains their ability, which Palin shows every time she speaks, to lie with impunity. That she hoodwinks so many only shows how little insight many people have.
Posted by: Cassandra | September 8, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Martin at 3:37….great post…let’s count up the hundreds of thousands the Obama’s gave to Trinity church and the building of Wright’s 10 mill home.
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
OMG…Once again Sarah Palin proves…she is no substitute for “Hillary Clinton”. It would be a sad state of “AFFFAIRS” if this woman got anywhere near 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Uh Sarah that’s where the White House is. You all know she is not qualified…deal with it!
Posted by: Buffee | September 8, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
BKMC
Mcsame is the dumbest phrase you all have come up with I know you ultra elitiest professor types think its hilarrious but its not going to win you the election!
Posted by: staniam | September 8, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
paige…
ahhh this is too funny. im only talking about palin because THE MEDIA IS FOCUSSING ON HER!!!!! so, as the wind blows, o are all the liberal bloggers. im just making the comparison between her and obama because the left is acting like she is the presidential nomonee and shes not. but i do also make the comparison because your canidate on the top of the ticket, is no more qualified than the republican v.p. choice. you walked right into that one… lol
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
tim
for the past 40 years the burden of tax debt on the middle class has grown at twice the rate as the top 5%
so what about stealing from the poor to pay for the rich to keep more of their money?
Obama is just adjusting the slow little trickery that a majority of republican administrations have snuck through while America wasn’t paying attention…
guess what since the engine of our country runs on the back of those middle class’s retail…
yeah that is the American way…to make sure the market stays strong…
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Palin needs the Good Ole Boys to explain away how dumb she is. Believe me: This is just the beginning of showing how incapable she is being VP of this country. Most bloggers probably know more than she does.
Posted by: TarHeel Mommy | September 8, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
yeppers McCain/Palin 08
Clinton2012
Posted by: Country First | September 8, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Palin is Bush in heels.
Posted by: Obama 2008 | September 8, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Joe at 3:39..when did campaigning with 300 advisors for 18 months become cred for Presidential nominee…..what the?
Before that, community organizer removing asbestos. Send him back to Senate to put in more than 143 days.
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
i dont buy the explanation, but the entities were producing too much risk for taxpayers. you can believe this AND support the bailout — you are saying “this is the last straw.”
Posted by: angry black democrat | September 8, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
It’s a gaffe but not one that will hurt her or McCain. Simply put, tell any 10 people on the street what she said and 9 out of 10 will agree that statement.
One could also take the tact that because there has always been an implicit federal liability that there has always been an associated cost that is reflected in the value of the dollar and t-bill auctions.
I’m going with gaffe myself.
Posted by: David | September 8, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I read somewhere that every man, woman, and child gets a rebate from oil revenues in Alaska. When we pay $4.00 dollars a gallon, at the pump, people in Alaska is getting money. Think about that America. We suffer and Sarah and her state gets rewarded. Just like Bush getting us into a ill-conceived war for oil, Sarah Palin was picked as VP because of oil. I’m disgusted.
Posted by: Lois, California | September 8, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I DON’T BUY IT! It’s a dumb explaination to cover her incompentency!
Stayed tuned America there will be more to come in the way Palinisms!
I can’t believe people are fawning all over her just after one scripted speech!
Too me she is just another Bush…with Lipstick!
Eight years is ENOUGH!
Smart Women for OBAMA ’08
Posted by: Sara | September 8, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Little by Little, the Palin effect is being exposed for what it is…a fraud.
Just goes to show you how out of touch McPalin is, no real grasps of the issues or reality.
Posted by: JoeReed007 | September 8, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Palin is Bush in heels
Cheney with lipstick
Posted by: Chuck | September 8, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Tim
lets sum up
Obama is smarter and hasd better judgement on almost every single major issue we are facing in this country…
Biden is smarter than McCain on almost every single issue we are facing in this country
Obama Biden and Mccain are geniuses compared to the knowledge and bredth of grasp Palin has on ANY of the issues that we are facing as a nation.
Period
The problem is not Palin’s illequippedness…
it’s McCain’s Bush like “strong decisive” but stupid and tactical judgement that as it is discovered that they are wrong
they play the same call the press names and hide the witness behind the wall of silence tactics and ethics …
no more…hide and seek government is done…there won’t be a 9th year selling the nation down the river!
same team …same tactics
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
dl…
do yourself a favor, and tell me the percentage of taxes the top 10 percent of americans pay. please do that for me. listen, im not saying there isnt problems. and im not a republican. i think here are ALOT of problems from both sides of the aisle. but this is a SPENDING problem, not a taxing problem. we spend way, way, way too much money, and bottom line is, with an obama presidency, there will be even more spending. this isnt speculation, this is from the man himself. our economies biggest problem is spending, not taxing.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
“stealing from the rich to give to the poor is not wat america is about”
Taxes are stealing? Only in the right wing world.
No bid contracts to Republican connected companies in Iraq. That is stealing to the tune of billions of dollars.
McCain’s failure to pay property taxes on his condo, why that;s stealing from children since property taxes mostly go to public schools.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
What is Palin hiding? She won’t answer any questions. Why won’t she show over 1100 pages of emails claiming executive privlidge? Why is she not forthcoming in the indepedent investigation of an improper firing? How is she qualified to help in these economic times when she doesn’t understand what Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae do? Why won’t she come before the public and interview for the job? McCain has made a decision based on politics and not on what is best for our country.
I don’t think his choice puts the Country First in the least.
Posted by: Ohenry | September 8, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Lois, California
If you California weirdos would allow drilling, you’d get that extra income as well. Stop bitching — you do it to yourself.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
The Community Reinvestment Act is the seed that started this whole subprime mess. It needs to be repealed.
Posted by: Woody | September 8, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
dl…
those are just words and your opinion. you are entitled to it, but i flat out disagree.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
She has NO CLUE as to what she is talking about on this subject like many othewr she knows NOTHING about…..Enough said>>>>>
Posted by: in | September 8, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
of course
you know how smart mccain supporters are when they start using my name to put forward their issues
because they backed a candidate who has horribble judgement if not knowledge on 90% of these issues…
who just sold the country down the river just like cheney bush and rove for the purpose of manipulating the truth for their own gain.
Palin is horribly ill-equipped and dumb on issues like trade, globalwarming, international relations, the middle east, social security, any energy policy outside oil (and even her oil policies are a bunch of bologne from the stories coming out of Alaska) …
her ineptness on the national and international issues is mind boggling.
and Mccain just picked her to be runner up to the leader of the free world.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
I don’t buy it. Sounds like back tracking to me. Why didn’t Sarah Palin explain what she meant? Why did the McCain campaign have to clarify her statements?
Posted by: CAG | September 8, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Palin,
I dont want you to make our country smaller, smarter and more efficient!
God Nooooooooooo
Posted by: RA | September 8, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Ohenry
Keep making things up if it makes you feel better. However, I hear that taking in too much BS is bad for your health.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
I live near the fannie Mae head and I saw him and a bunch of soft white men leaving his house in tennis outfits. They must have been playing tennis in the backyard of his mega mansion in NW DC that recently sold for over 7 million.
Hope they had a great weekend!~
jerks.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 8, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Debra says “you’re right…sort of like when BO took on Biden, who thinks he’s not ready to be Prez. and his good buddy John McCain is better for the job. That was a great decision by BO…NOT.
_______________________________________________
Why did Palin support Ron Paul and speak out against McCain?
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Oh well, I guess thats why they don’t want her to do interviews.. she left Wasilla, a town of 7000 people, with $27million of debt, what would she do to the nation?
Posted by: Mark | September 8, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
paige…
i meant no harm by it, chill out.. lol i was just simply waiting for someone to say exactly what you said. all the democrats and the liberal media are blasting away on palin right now, so while we are talking about her (because thats what everyone on here was talking about, i was just defending) i knew i would get someone who would say “shes not even on the top of the repub’s ticket”… lol but its funny how the republican v.p. choice and the democratic presidential choice are being compared so much isnt it??!!
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
When will Barack take the tape of Michell’s mouth and let her roam in public?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Woody
That’s not correct. Deregulating the financial industry is what created the sub-prime mess. The Gramm-Leach-Blailey act is the culprit.
Posted by: AkaDad | September 8, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
tim
Mccain is going to curb spending?
how exactly will he do that?
he says he is going to cut loopholes like obama
he says he is going to get rid of all these little favors that Alaska seemed to have soaked up more than ANYONE in the last 8 years?
then he picks the one who was administering those porkbarrel projects…
and yes she might have said no to the bridge …BUT SHE KEPT THE MONEY!
he will never be able to do any of his policies with the congress that will exist when he takes power.
it will be the same log jam that we have now.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Mark- BUT she got them all those earmarks! Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin employed a lobbying firm to secure almost $27 million in federal earmarks for a town of 6,700 residents while she was its mayor, according to an analysis by an independent government watchdog group.
There was $500,000 for a youth shelter, $1.9 million for a transportation hub, $900,000 for sewer repairs, and $15 million for a rail project — all intended to benefit Palin’s town, Wasilla, located about 45 miles north of Anchorage.
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Does anyone here believe that the QUEEN OF SARCASM has an understanding of all the subtleties of the current mortgage crisis?
Maybe someone needs to tell her that this is not stand up comic.
Posted by: Lance D. | September 8, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Country First at 3:43 GREAT LINK!!!!
A MUST READ!
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Obama would do what he does best, blame his “overzealous” staff as he always does
Posted by: Country First | September 8, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Tim- I agree with you 100%. :)
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
This mistatment by Palin is jst the tip of the iceberg in regards to her inexperience. As the VP can you imagine what these kinds of mistatements and misunderstandings could do when working overseas. Do we really want someone with so little understanding just a heartbeat away from the presidency?
Posted by: Joe | September 8, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
dl…
ok, let me get this straight… im supposed to vote for obama because thats the only way we will be able to get this do nothing, democratic controlled congress to do something?! is that what your saying? and im not saying mcain is the guy. i never have. im just saying, i agree with him alot more than karl marx.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Debra
Paige is correct Palin wasn’t jumping up and down on the Mccain bandwagon… she played her tactics as she has been reported to have done all her life…
and she wasn’t even running against him and she was praising Obama on energy issues and not throwing her suopport behind Mccain…
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Expect more unfathomable comments such as this one as she makes uninformed off-the-cuff remarks, as opposed to speeches that have been written for her. She’s in way over her head!
Posted by: Pat | September 8, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
ave you noticed that Obama avoids predominately black audiences? Bill Clinton often went into the heart of African American communities and made a real connection with them.
I’m surprised the African Americans today are aligning themselves with a person who, as Jesse Jackson said, looks down on them.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
wow…. all you democrats in here talking about her “inexperience”, and “do we want her a heartbeat away from the presidency”?… DO YOU GUYS FORGET WHO YOUR PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE IS???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my god…
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Government Bailout = Spending Taxpayer Money.
The do nothing Congress chose to do nothing and now we have this debacle.
Thanks for nothing, Congress!!
Palin is right on the money with her statement!
Time for McCain-Palin to shake up Washington!
Can’t wait to vote in November!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary ’12
Posted by: USVet | September 8, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Palin is wholly unqualified to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Even Rove and other conservatives said as much before McCain picked her.
The establishment has been living high off the hog for so long, they will promote anyone in order to keep it going.
Posted by: cincyr | September 8, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
tim I listed a long list of overwhelming reasons to vote for obama
you listed that this is about spending so mccain would be the guy
well guess what as far as that one issue (one of many that mccain is the weaker choice on)
Mccain is not going to cut spending he will not be able to with his plan and the congress that will exist…
and on top of that he has to raise some taxes somewhere…he is doing the “read my lips bologne” and he is not saying where he will tax
and on top of that he will not be able to accomplish ANYTHING he is promising because of the congress that is likely to exist…it will be worse than what we have with Bush.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
I think Palin has no clue about national and foreign issues and is a danger to our country.
Of course, the majority of Americans who are unenthusiastic, undereducated and under informed won’t realize this until 2 years into their administration.
All you have to do it repeat a lie enough times to make America believe it. “Executive experience” “Executive experience” “Executive experience” “Executive experience” “Executive experience” “Executive experience”
Posted by: Billy | September 8, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Has anyone actually listened to what Sarah Palin says, or are the ones opposed to her just too eager to catch her making a mistake.
Here is what she says:
“That’s why John McCain has been calling for years to reform things and cut bureaucracy, even at the lending agencies our government supports. The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac they’ve gotten too big and too expensive to the tax payers. The McCain/Palin administration will make them smaller and smaller and more effective for home owners who need help.”
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are “government-sponsored enterprises” (GSEs). This means that they are privately owned, but receive support from the Federal Government, and assume some public responsibilities.
So before anyone get’s overly excited, please check the facts first.
I am not a fan of Mrs. Palin and rather not see her in the white house, but let´s not turn this into a stupid witch hunt, it will only back fire.
Don’t believe the hype
Posted by: Niels | September 8, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
I may read too much into her opinion, but I think she’s on to something. Fannie & Freddie were needed to rebuild confidence in mortgage financing coming out of the Great Depression, but they should have been set up to go out of existence once confidence was rebuilt and let the free market deal with the risks. Now that confidence is almost goned, we need them again; but, I hope McCain/Palin will help to set it up so that eventually the taxpayers will no longer be the banker of last resort. It does not make sense to allow companies be privately owned when they’re profitable and then make them government-owned when they lose money. As some economist put it recently, that kind of set up is WORSE than communism.
Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | September 8, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
ahhhh democrats have ALWAYS. got the black vote. this isnt anything new.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
this woman went to 6 different schools in 6 years to graduate from the univ of idaho. i mean is this really what we need? an undergrad in finance could understand fanny and freddie. what about other issues i mean she is stupid!!
Posted by: william | September 8, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Don’t want this man anywhere near that Nuclear Button.
Posted by: Chuck | September 8, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
dl – simplified why don’t we vote the donothing congress out!! Then give McCain a congress that will get us back on track.
Please note alot of the mortgage issue and bank issues are due to The libs in Congress – Dodds with banking deals, Schmer cause a scare
Fannie mae and freddie mac are costing us too much money, I am sure she meant from the take over which is going to cost us over 100 billion dollars!
Posted by: spock | September 8, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Obama needs to go back to Harvard and get a degree in common sense. He has absolutely none, nil, zero. If we aren’t for his socialist agenda, we are racists.
He does not have one viable solution to our ecomonic problems. His senate district lost 11% of the jobs while he was controlling this district.
Posted by: Martin | September 8, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Well, her statement wasn’t great, but I wish this much scrutiny would be applied to Obama…why no post about the surge all of a sudden working beyond everyone’s “wildest dreams,” or that he will leave the Bush tax cuts if there is a looming recession in Jan, or, or, or…
On that last one, doesn’t that make anyone fearful that he might just tax more than the top 5% if the economy “requires” it at the time. Shifting priorities and the like…
Posted by: Wade | September 8, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
william
Old news buddy. Wake up and get with the program the Obama blogospheres are promoting today.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
USVET
If you think it is because of THIS “do nothing congress” that this bail out had to happen…you are seriously out of touch…
Palin should talk to mccain’s senior “ex” economic adviser Gramm then(that is still officially unofficially working as his sr economic adviser)
you know the guy who wrote McCain’s economic platform
the guy who also PUSHED THROUGH THE DEREGULATION THROUGH THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS OF BOTH THE HOUSING INDUSTRY AND THE OIL INDUSTRY… hell ENRON.
the do nothing congress was given the banking and housing issue from a REPUBLICAN congress.
and the men who built that situation are mccain’s entire leadership team.
you people have got to be kidding me…ugh.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Paige:
Obama earmarked 1 Billion dollars in his 143 days as US Senator.
It is not like 3 million of that went her husbands employer and his salary suddenly jumped 327%. That was Obama.
Oh, The Bridge To Nowhere…..Obama voted FOR it.
Posted by: Do Nothing Dem Congress | September 8, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
tim — Thanks!
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Maybe the average person wouldn’t understand the complexities of FMae and FMac, but if she is running for vice president – first of many clueless responses
Posted by: diane | September 8, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Hey Lois from California quit whining about the fact that you have to pay $4 per gallon gas while Palin gave Alaskans a rebate because of their surplus from oil revenues.
If you want a rebate then tell Nancy, Arnold, Boxer, Feinstien and the rest of your liberal representatives to allow California to drill offshore like they do in Alaska.
Stop trying to feed off the profits of other States while you keep your environment pristine.
Posted by: JAZ | September 8, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Billy – When you talk about lies didn’t yu mean to say Obama.
Posted by: spock | September 8, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
The Republicans are so desparate for a savior that they have latched on to this loose cannon of a woman as the second coming. Sad and pathetic… You won’t see her in too many interviews because the McCain campaign is worried she will screw up and embarass them. And to think, this woman could be president some day soon! After all, John McCain is 72 years old and a cancer survivor. God help us all…
Posted by: DaveM | September 8, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
I noticed that as well. No, of course I don’t buy that explanation, nor would anyone who isn’t ignorant or pushing an agenda. She clearly doesn’t understand these institutions which puts her squarely in the vast majority of politicians, including many of those charged with oversight, and I have little doubt one George W Bush.
Two things: first that, in and of itself, is no big deal. Politicians have their areas of expertise and their weak points, and that’s if they’re good politicians. As for strengths, for McCain, that’s the military. Obama, constitutional law. Biden, foreign affairs. The question I have is, what does Palin bring to the table? Energy policy? I think she knows something about energy projects, but that isn’t the same as being a master of energy projects. Moreover, glaring weaknesses are not a good thing on the policy front. Sarah Palin better not have any of these, or that will look bad for their ticket. Presumably the press will attempt to reveal this stuff, as the McCain camp has hardly given her the opportunity to strut her stuff.
Second thing, and this is important. Fannie and Freddie are going bust, requiring a bailout that will cost taxpayers, no doubt, and potentially quite substantially, as in triple digit billions or greater. There is another government organization that is not going bankrupt that is actually profiting taxpayers (arguably, but that’s an esoteric and separate point). Gennie Mae (actually there are others, but the analogy is most straight forward here). Now, the question is why were these organizations ‘too expensive to the taxpayer’? Is it because they were linked to the government thus implying backing that is now coming to fruition, or because the profits they made as a private entity did not accrue to the taxpayer but to shareholders (or because the profit motive itself got them into trouble… *you’re getting warmer*…)? Bearing in mind the FDIC is also a government entity that is now taking on ‘costs to the taxpayer’ but who no one seems to be debating.
But I digress to watch this substanitive post be buried in a sea of right wing trope. You attract an interesting audience here at ABC.com…
Posted by: Dan Hunt | September 8, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Where’s the thread about Obama’s accidental admission of his Muslim faith? Why would an interviewer have to ‘correct’ an interviewee’s statement? It should be called a coaching session instead of interviewing session if the interviewer knows more about what the interviewee should say.
Posted by: Obama-Yah-Wright | September 8, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Voice Over:
She’s the Biggest Celebrity in the world..
But can she talk when not hiding behind a script?
–
I think most moderates are waiting to hear some actual words from Palin’s mouth that are HERS and are not sarcastic.
Posted by: Chad | September 8, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
come on people, lets all be fair now. do you ACTUALLY think a person that has been nominated for vice president, no matter what the party, dosent know that fannie mae and freddie mac are private institutions?! seriously?! i know it makes for good mudslinging, but cmon now. why do americans have to attack EVERY possible thing as ridiculous as it may be?
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac HAVE gotten too big and expensive to taxpayers. While the bail out is ultimately necessary, do you deny that the cost is expensive to taxpayers?
Why the nit picking on everything that Palin says, Jake?
Once again, on balance, if you are going to nit pick, can you please comment on Obama’s “my Muslim faith” comment to your own colleague Stephanolopolos?
Vetting of candidates is important and expected, just as long as you do it fairly to both sides.
Are you being fair to both sides, Jake?
Please be honest.
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 8, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Obama supporters are not going to let there be a 9th year of hide and seek governemtn tricks
same team same tactics
add this to the list
wmd
enron
katrina failures and hirings
judicial appointments
Libby
energy meetings behind closed doors
etc etc
and
the choosing of Palin …an overhwelmingly underqualified , ill-equipped trojan horse to women…
who sells jets on ebay and leaves her town in debt after getting 20 million dollars in earmarks from hiring lobbyists
who tells the american people she sadi no to a bridge but keeps the money
and who doesn’t believe in science as fact but HER faith is
and seems to have drama and ethics questions around every position she has ever held.
oh and hasn’t “really paid attention” to the war iniraq…
or anything for that matter overseas.
ugh
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Too expensive as in this is going to cost us. I love it when non-finance people try to write about finance.
Posted by: valerie b | September 8, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
What an embarrassment to the once great Republican party. We used to be the smart guys on the economy – now my party is taken over by religious nuts.
Posted by: Former Repub Joanne | September 8, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
If I’m getting the info correct, Treasury just guaranteed to capitalize up $100 billion in each company to maintain their “worth”. $200 billion and counting, plus expect trading value of both companies to decrease as a result of the new “premium” govt ownership stock. So taxpayers pay and lose money in 401(k)s. Sounds expensive to me.
Posted by: DSF | September 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
McCain ain’t going anywhere…so quit with the “heartbeat away crap”. His mom is the sharpest 96 year old out there. McCain should have been dead 3 times, but was spared for a higher purpose…serving this country in the highest office…and I believe that, so don’t challenge my faith.
Posted by: Debra | September 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
davem…
look at your last statement. mccain dosent want to let her talk because hes afraid she will look stupid and embarass them?! do you ACTUALLY think thats true?! do you think mccain would pick someone that he is scared to let talk?! cmon man, if you’re a democrat, thats fine. but be reasonable at least!!!!
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Ha ,Ha ,Ha ,Ha ,Ha
I’m expecting Sarah to next say how difficult it is to put “food on your family”.
Yep she’s Bush in a dress.
Posted by: Sarah without cheat notes | September 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
“my Muslim faith”
Slip of the tongue?
Posted by: Drew | September 8, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Jake — that FNM and FRE are private entities (i.e., publicly traded companies) does not free them from government influence. In fact, Fannie and Freddie are organizations that have been sleeping with politicians for decades. How do you think Fannie and Freddie were able to capitalize on and help fuel the housing bubble. FNM and FRE are government extensions.
Posted by: valerie b | September 8, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
No she’ll say let’s put Fannie and Freddie on Ebay….
This is amateur night and the republicans are at the mic.
Posted by: Sarahs making up stuff | September 8, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Of course I don’t buy that explanation, anymore than I buy Palin’s comment about not supporting the Bridge to Nowhere or earmarks in general, or her extensive commander-in-chief experience acquired while deploying the Alaskan National Guard to fight forest fires,or her vast administrative experience which allowed her to build a hockey rink on land to which her township did not have the title. This is one of Palin’s first unscripted moments in the spotlight of this campaign and she illustrated brilliantly that she has no idea how the mortgage lending industry works and has no idea how Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are structured.
Posted by: Franc | September 8, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Interesting how those Obama fans who vilified HRC and said the most vile things about her are not BEGGING her to step up and save a failed campaign.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
McCain/Palin beliefs and why they are to be feared:
Global warming does NOT exist.
Environmental protection is unnecessary and should be stopped.
All resources are provided by God to be exploited fully without regard to environmental damage.
The US is the world’s attack dog and is free to invade any country it wants.
The war in Iraq is a “holy war” against the Muslims.
The war in the middle east should be expanded to include Iran.
Evolution does NOT exist.
Creationism should be taught in public schools.
There should not be a seperation between church and state.
Abortion should be banned including after rape or incest.
Homosexuality is a sin against God and should be banned.
Supreme Court Judges should be picked according to agreeing with the items above.
Posted by: 2791d | September 8, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Obama was referring to people not accepting the fact that he’s a Christian.
In other words, he misspoke. Of course neo cons won’t let that one go by. But what if he were a Muslim? Are Muslims forbidden to run for public office?
Don’t distract this column from what was asked.. was Gov. Palim confused?
Yes. They can’t possibly teach her fast enough. She’s just now up to speed on how her proximity to Russia qualifies her on foreign affairs.
Now let’s discuss her alliance with The Third Wave. Let’s talk about her support for the bridge to no where.
Let’s talk about her hatred of gays.
Posted by: Gus | September 8, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Well all this is beginning to show that Palin is not fit to be in the White House. She knows very little past her state of Alaska and has already said she doesn’t really care about Iraq, Iran and foreing countrys. WOW good luck Sarah when you meet Biden.
Posted by: scaredtodeath | September 8, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
im just waiting for someone to give me an honest answer, other than “i want change”, as to why they think barack obama should be our nevt president? all i ever get is republican bashing and the doom and gloom they brought the last eight years. no real answers on why they think barack obama is qualified to be our next leader.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
tim I agree that what person would be nominated for VP that doesn’t get the basic notion that these are private institutions?
but we don’t know…and this is the first thing out of her mouth…
it’s not jumping on… it’s she may not know…
there is no record of anything we are facing on a national platform that she has shown any record of knowledge or judgement on…
she and Mccain have yet to have checks next to their names for understanding economics…
at all
the only reason her state got tax breaks…was because they are an oil economic dependent state and living off earmarks from the fed… …and the oil industry is seeing record profits.
period.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Gus
Isn’t it true that Obama voted for the bridge to nowhere?
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
If this is indicative of Palin’s knowlege on issues, the McCain campaign would do well to never let her speak without a script and teleprompter! Biden will tear her up in the debate.
Posted by: Wm. J. LePetomaine | September 8, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
“come on people, lets all be fair now. do you ACTUALLY think a person that has been nominated for vice president, no matter what the party, dosent know that fannie mae and freddie mac are private institutions”
Same woman had zero idea of what the VP job is.
Even her later explanations show how clueless she is about the job and what is necessary.
So far we have the earmark reformers that requested $200M in earmarks just 6 months ago.
The executive experience, the majority of which was 6 years as mayor of town less than
We have foreign policy experience because Russia and Alaska are geographically close.
We have Commander in Chief oF the AKNG, though she never gave an order, has zero input or briefing when it comse to national security. In fact the last thing the AKNG asked for was authorization to send a C-17 to help with Gustav. Her chief of staff signed off on it.
Nearly everything offered up as a qualification of hers has been at best an exaggeration and at worst a lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 8, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
We’re doomed. McCain chose campaign over country… and (if he wins) has saddled us with a dangerously under-qualified VP. She’s being SCHOOLED RIGHT NOW in foreign policy and the economy. Holy cow! I want a VP that already knows this stuff!
Posted by: DogBitez | September 8, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Tim: You really want to do this, don’t you? I have no idea why. Wasting time?
IN the 3 years 9 months Obama has been a US Senator, he sponsored 427 bills and authored 152 of them. Prior to that, he was in the Illinois State Legislature where he sponsored 820 bills to become law.
Senator Obama’s record: Of the 15 bills he sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law,
*2 addressed foreign policy (promote relief, security, and democracy in the Congo; and develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control)
*3 addressed public health (improve mine safety; increased breast cancer research funding; reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality)
*2 addressed openness and accountability in government (strengthening the Freedom Of Information Act; full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds)
*2 addressed national security (extend terrorist risk insurance; amend the Patriot Act)
*1 addressed the needs of the Armed Forces (wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad)
And of the hundreds of bills Senator Obama introduced during the 109th and 110th Congress:
*25 addressed energy efficiency and climate change
*21 addressed health care
*20 addressed public health
*14 addressed consumer protection/labor
*13 addressed the needs of veterans and of active duty personnel and their families
*12 addressed congressional ethics and accountability
*10 addressed foreign policy
*9 addressed voting/election rights
*7 addressed education
*6 addressed relief for victims of Hurricane Katrina
*5 addressed the environment
*4 addressed discrimination
*4 addressed homeland security
_____________________________________
McCain has voted with Bush 100% of the time this year; 95% of the time the last two years and 90% from there….. ENOUGH.
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
just wait more are coming. i love it the way they either 1) dont answer the question or 2) turn around and say well Barack Obama did it too.
can someone please answer a straight question.
Posted by: shyril | September 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Gus…RIGHT ON…no one has investigated the church she attends either. The minister said anyone who voted for John Kerry would not go to heaven!!!!
Posted by: newvoter | September 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
The bailout is costing taxpayers money. it’s very simple to understand. Looks like ABC is the mouth piece for Obama. ABC should be ashamed. The news media should report the news, not put a “Obama” slant on the news.
PUMA was right !!!
Palin Power to you…
Posted by: Alice in Miami | September 8, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Sarah Palin attended five colleges in six years…Need I say anymore, lol. Are we supposed to lower the bar for her? The thought of this nitwit in office scares the hell out of me!
WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO OUR COUNTRY…GOD HELP US IF THEY GET IN OFFICE!
Posted by: Buffee | September 8, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Sen. Clinton voted for the Bridge to Nowhere, I know that.
Posted by: Wm. J. LePetomaine | September 8, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
shyril…did you see the way her aid jumped aorund the foreign experience question on CNN? Thery got so mad at being questioned they cancelled McCain in Larry King…
Posted by: newvoter | September 8, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Paige
You’re full of it. You’re up to your hips in it.
Obama authored precisely two bills during his tenure in Congress. One was to send a token amount of money to Africa and another was to name a post office.
Boy, you kids say the darnest things.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Get me rewrite. “She screwed up. She takes earmarks, not mortgages. Okay?”
Biden’s thinking ‘thank god it’s not only me today!’
Posted by: kravitz | September 8, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Isn’t it true that Obama voted for the bridge to nowhere?
====
I have no idea.. it’s Palin who is getting high marks for saying she voted against it… when in fact she was for it.
It’s Palin who’s being sold as an accomplished VP who can step in on day one. McCain said that her close proximity to Russia qualifies her.
Do you agree with that? Does Alaska’s closeness to Russia qualify one in foreign affairs?
Posted by: Gus | September 8, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
It’s public risk. And now we’re footing the bill for all this mess.
She passed her pop quiz. End of story.
Posted by: frank | September 8, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Buffee, you forgot to add: Palin prays for Russia and Iran to be more Christian-like and stop their agression.
Posted by: Wm. J. LePetomaine | September 8, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
She should not be held to a
higher standard. McCain
himself has said that the
economy is not his strong
suit.
The McCain-Palin ticket has
cast its vote against itself
on the Number 1 issue to
most voters – the economy.
Posted by: anon | September 8, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
newvoter
yeah, right.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Her answers might be vague and uninformed, but at least she’s authentic — unlike that fancy elitist from Chicago (or wherever he claims to be from).
Who says one needs a grasp of “facts” or “reality” to run for public office? For heavens sake, where have all of you been for the last eight years?
Posted by: Dewey | September 8, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
She does not understand anything about the federal government except how to accept money from it for her state. But of course we are picking on her because she is a woman, right?
Posted by: indy_voter | September 8, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
OMG no wonder the McCain camp is shielding Palin for the media, she is an empty suit, just sex appeal to men thats why McCain nominate her maybe he thinks we women are stupid and will vote for her. I will not vote this year. We know very little about her, she transfer from school to school, I don’t think she is a stable woman.
Posted by: Randy | September 8, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
first off, im not going to get into it that deep other than to ask, if palin and mccain have no experience, then what does that say for obama and biden?! mccain and biden have both been in washington a long time. they just have different beliefs. and obama and palin are both newcommers for the most part. so what makes you think that mccain and palin have no experience, but obama and biden have what it takes?! it goes back to my original question… what makes obama the guy for the job?! all i ever get is bashing of the other side?
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Sorry Buffee. My last post should have been addressed to Larissa.
Posted by: Wm. J. LePetomaine | September 8, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Someone asked.. why Obama keeps his wife’s mouth shut. Well, duh..is she running for office?
Better question is why is McCain afraid to let Palin speak to the press? I think now we all know why – so we cannot see how dumb she is.
Bye the way.. why don’t the press investigate why Palin is married to a man who is a member of a party that wants to secede from the US and why she spoke at that party’s convention this year? Seems to me this is a heck of a lot worse that Michelle Obama saying that she is really proud of her country for the first time. At least Michelle could talk about slavery and civil rights. What’s Palin’s excuse?
teh Republican ticket is Dumb and Dumber.
Posted by: Mohamed Rahaman | September 8, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
tim
Obama is smart as a whip.
and if you read his proposals …
they are the lesser of two evils because the situation we are in only can offer that…
no one is going to be offering solutions that are cures
we won’t know for years…
the last 8 years (and a lot of it has to do with these same tactics that mccain is showing in his campaign of cover up and hide the truth)
has made us very sick as a nation…
go read obama’s plans for infrastructure, his tax plans trying to be honest (McCain’s are just being Bush I’s manipulation in an election…he has to tax…it will be unavoidable)
Obama’s plans for energy are more closely aligned with every energy and scientists out there than mccain’s are)
Obama isn’t trying gimmicks…he is coming a lot closer to being honest thanMccain’s camp is…and the numbers and most of the world view backs that up)
If for nothing else we are seeing we need help…we can not keep going down cowboy diplomacy…we end up standing alone)
Mccain Palin does nothing to change that.
most of all the flip flops or changes that both candidates have made …
look at the timing…
Mccain’s were toward partisanship…
Obama’s were toward the center.
which diorection do you want to go?
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
I think Palin skipped the classes all year and is now cramming for the final exam – trying to sound like she knows what she’s talking about.
Posted by: Beap | September 8, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
This is just another example that “executive experience” means absolutely nothing if you lack an understanding of how America, its industries and its financial institutions work. Being mayor of her small town and being Governor of Alaska does not mean that she has any real understanding of national policy issues. Moreover, McCain has been in the Senate for over 25 years and he still doesn’t understand the economy… Ahh, but right wing (so-called) evangelical Americans are thrilled to vote for a ticket that calls itself “pro-life”. Memo to rural America and all people who have suffered under the current economy: The current bozo in office is “pro-life” and how has that helped things?
Posted by: Ben | September 8, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
of course it she mis spoke as opposed to not knowing? LOL
Time will tell. It is actually an insult to the american people that the republicans think we will vote for a person we dont know but again we knew bush /cheney and still voted.
wake up folks!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: shyril | September 8, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Oh, wow. I kind of like Palin and expect a Gaff from every candidate every once in a while. Then you go and pick on her and McCain.
WEll, jpt, you had a gaff, also…I think:
You said…”treasury is stepping in, and has committed billions in taxpayers to keep them afloat…” Would you mind letting me know if I am one of the committed taxpayers? How many billion of us are there? (Did you by chance mean billions of taxpayers dollars?)
Posted by: Warren | September 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Watching John Stewart comforts me that there are still journalists willing to confront idiocy.
He plays the video clip of McCain’s adviser Karl Rove sharing his opinion that Obama would pick Kaine as a political move instead of the best choice for the office. Then he goes on to demeaning Kaine’s experience from a low population state.
He then plays Rove the moron pontificating on the wisdom of selecting the Tonya Harding VP choice of McCain.
Posted by: McGreen | September 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
dl,
Check out his website for all of his legislation (for example nuclear proliferation, mental health for returning vets, etc etc).
Posted by: miles1967 | September 8, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
If you think Charlie “softball” Gibson will ask Palin any hard questions I have some swampland in FL I’ll sell to you cheap. He’ll probably ask where she got her glasses.
I wish he’d ask about her association with The Third Wave… but it’s not gonna happen.
Posted by: Gus | September 8, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
paige…
you know, i could plaster all of mccains voting record on here too, but i simply dont have the time. the only point you made is that you are voting for obama because hes the democrat and mccain “voted with bush 90 percent of the time”. thats all you have?! i mean, if thats the true reason, then go ahead. vote for obama. you’re right, he is not george bush.
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
I love how anytime McCain or Princess Palin are critized it’s just “reapeating the DNC talking points”.
This is just the begining of The Gov. showing her total lack of knowledge on the issues.
Posted by: Kellie | September 8, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
No one knows it all, except maybe for reporters. Palin screwed up. Mr. Tapper, I suggest you put as much effort into Obama/Biden gaffs as you do McCain/Palin gaffs and we will all be better informed.
Posted by: Ricky | September 8, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
The polls show that the voter is gaining intelligence, Obama will never catch up to McCain/Palin. Obama talks about change and for 11 years he practiced dirty politics and unsavory associations with criminals, muslims and racists. Obama’s record is his downfall. Obama can’t be trusted and he has no experience in leadership!
McCain/Palin
Posted by: martha S. | September 8, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
This is precisely why her campaign has been vigilant to keep her on script and away from spontaneous answers. Just two months ago, she was asking for a definition of what the V.P. job entailed while speaking with Larry Kudlow. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t fault Sarah Palin for seizing John McCain’s offer…but I have a very hard time understanding why anyone would vote for her on the basis of anything other than looks. Unless of course you believe God is going to miraculously infuse her with knowledge. We’ll see if that happens by the time the debates roll around.
Posted by: Robert | September 8, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Gaffe: “A socially awkward or tactless act.”
This isn’t a gaffe. This is like McCain misstating where borders of countries are or who the Iranians are helping (ummm… Al Queda or Iraqi insurgents? There is a big difference.)
These are ERRORSbased on complete lack of knowledge. These people do not know the facts. Aren’t these things the President and Vice President should know? C’mon folks — don’t we want them to be smarter than us???
Posted by: bobbip | September 8, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
indy_voter: so Obama is the elitist? It seems to me that people who have the audacity to mock community organizers who help the poor are elitists!
Posted by: Ben | September 8, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Tim says: m just waiting for someone to give me an honest answer, other than “i want change”, as to why they think barack obama should be our nevt president? all i ever get is republican bashing and the doom and gloom they brought the last eight years. no real answers on why they think barack obama is qualified to be our next leader.
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What did you hear from the RNC? Nothing about our economy, global warming, Afghanistan – only shots against Obama. There are a host of issues that make Obama the choice for now, but what surprises me is how so many people completely fail to grasp that we MUST rebuild our global relationships. Those relationships and our ability to lead and be involved directly impacts every aspect of our economy at home. We are way deep in debt to the US bank of China, borrowing money from a communist country to pay for antiquated energy policies that we get from countries w/ties to terrorism. It’s complicated, but McCain brings us the exact same policies that brought us to this point in the first place. Mccain says he is against earmarks, yet puts one of the biggest abusers on his ticket – McCain says he understand climate change, yet puts a person who does not believe it is man-made on his ticket and on and on….. Obama will close tax loopholes for those companies sending jobs overseas; lower taxes on anyone making under $250,000 – a rising tide lifts all boats, ACTUALLY invest in alternative energy sources – not just give lip service to them….
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Maybe too expensive to the taxpayers means too expensive to many taxpayers who can no longer afford their mortgages? Too many foreclosures?
Posted by: Jeannette | September 8, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
This is much ado about nothing. The US government has never had the option of letting Fannie and Freddie fail–it would cause a national and international credit crisis. As the portfolios of these giants expanded, it became increasingly clear that they were too big and represent an unacceptable risk to tax payers. You can parse Palin’s phrasing on this, but the risk has been unacceptably real and large for some time.
The bigger point is this–the media and the left are so inpatient for Palin to trip, that it looks like they are aggressively trying to trip her. Guess who will benefit from that?
Posted by: NJH | September 8, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Rather than say ‘they didn’t answer the question,’ you just ran a talking point…unedited…and you didn’t follow up to get them to answer the question.
This post is a great example of how the media has let America down this election as much an example of who doesn’t know what.
Posted by: kravitz | September 8, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
No I don’t buy the “explanation” or really double talk and distraction, which is the McCain campaign’s version of an explanation.
Clearly, Ms. Palin doesn’t know what she’s talking about on this and alot of other issues.
And on that note, I hope ABC is not giving her the questions in advance of her interview so she can “cram” for it, and I hope Charlie Gibson doesn’t throw her softballs. In fact, if he doesn’t go after her the way he and Stephanopoulos went after Obama during the debates, I am going to be suspicious.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 8, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
I believe we are beginning to see that it takes more than just being a hockey mom and snowmobiler to be the VP. I dont buy the explanation of the gaffe at all- although I am a woman and mother myself, at the end of the day, it is about voting for who is best for America- I believe it to be the Obama/Biden team. Republicans have had their go, it is time for real change.
Posted by: luvlib | September 8, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Fannie mae and freddie mac are costing us too much money, I am sure she meant from the take over which is going to cost us over 100 billion dollars!
and whose job was to oversee them. Congress. Especially the Senate. Biden, Dodd, Obama, Reid, et al.
Posted by: geevill | September 8, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
tim
the key here is
it’s not experience that counts…experience is good because …drum roll…
it hopefully brings knowledge…
Biden has shown over and over (go look at the times both he and mccain were heading into the war …how detailed and how complex Biden’s understandign and answers were…compared to Mccain’s)
he has a wealth of knowledge… and pretty good judgment.
McCain has knowledge…not quite as apparent as Biden’s …(I have seen Mccain several times up close and personal and he does not do well on a second follow up …at all)
Obama has talked in detail and logically in q and a’s and small group speeches…sincerely randomly taking questiuons (2 of my friends got picked and asked hard questions …they were Hillary supporters)
Obama can answer them and you wish that America got to see that side of him…
that is why he rose in places that he got to spend a year where people got to see him and see those answers.
It’s about knowledge.
and if you look at his record of public statements on issues and the complexity of issues that he has had to be on his game better than sooo many people you see his understanding of our policitics of the world or our constituion of the job of economics of the middle class…
he gets it all in detail and knows the landscape for the past year…he has had to come to bat in front of the press adn with thepress every day
Palin is offering to do one restricted interview.
That is bad.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Hey Paige where did you get your calander? Obama was elected to the senate in 2006 and took office in 2007thats 21 months. and most of those months (19) have been spent campaigning
Posted by: ray sternberg | September 8, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Now we know why the McCain campaign doesn’t want her interviewed – we might actually get to know the real Sarah Palin. My judgement from what I have seen – devisive, mean-spitited harpie spewing the same old hateful attacks that became so popular the last eight years. Nothing new here – same old Republican crap. No redeeming qualities. Maverick, indeed…
Posted by: DaveM | September 8, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
She didn’t answer any questions
or pass any test.
She made a statement probably
with a script in front of her.
She had an opportunity to
educate the public with greater
clarity on this federal takeover.
But she didn’t use it.
She just showed she’s the one
who needs more education on the
matter.
Posted by: anon | September 8, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Warren;
If you were half as smart as you pretend to be, you’d have noticed that Jake was quoting an email from a McCain staffer.
Posted by: Bob | September 8, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
the voters need competence, not a sideshow. We will have a thousand examples of things that Sarah Palin does *not* know, beofre this is over. How many do we need?
None.
Posted by: guava boy | September 8, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
This is like McCain misstating where borders of countries are or who the Iranians are helping (ummm… Al Queda or Iraqi insurgents? There is a big difference.)
These are ERRORSbased on complete lack of knowledge. These people do not know the facts. Aren’t these things the _____________________That is funny, seeing how Obama doesn’t know how many states there are
Posted by: oneofthecracks | September 8, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Palin is simply a placeholder to look pretty next McCain. North Vietnam would have done U.S. democracy a favor had they shipped McCain to the Soviet Gulag for PERMANENT residence.
McCain is an insult to the U.S. constitution.
Posted by: K Trout | September 8, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Obama gave up his muslim religion for politics, just as Bush was born-again to be accepted in the core republican voters. Obama’s half-brother has openly stated he was active in his muslim religion at age 27. Here is a real story for the news media, but this will never be allowed by the Oprah/Obama/ABC news media.
Posted by: Sylvia B. | September 8, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Tim – ow…. all you democrats in here talking about her “inexperience”, and “do we want her a heartbeat away from the presidency”?… DO YOU GUYS FORGET WHO YOUR PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE IS???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my god…
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You want to switch to McCain now? You baited for Palin/Obama all afternoon and I give his accomplishments in a nutshell and you pull McCains name out. Nice work, but no go. I’m the one that stated Obama is running against McCain and you kept pushing Palin. Make up your mind.
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Actually, this bailout IS going to cost the taxpayer well over $100 billion.The issue is whether this bailout is better or worse than letting the free market sort things out.
Posted by: tom | September 8, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
HOW DARE YOU ATTACK SARAH PALIN! She sponsored a MINIMUM of 20 bake sales while she was in the PTA, and she knows a thing or two about economics, thank you very much!
Posted by: Eric | September 8, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
all the things that the obama people claim about Palin, is in fact the things and questions that was ask about him, and he is running for the first spot and she is running for the second spot, he never answered any thing, why should she,
Posted by: oneofthecracks | September 8, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
geevil it was the republican congress that all the bad stuff happened with.
just like the war the dems might not have been great at cleaning it up yet… but when the hot soup is being poured all over the floor….it may take a while of someone else trying to stop it and then the clean up…
the republican congress is to blame for this bologne in the first place…
and who was the champion of deregulation of the banking sector and the guy who wrote the enron loophole for the energy speculators…
Mr “author of mccain’s economic platform…literally” Gramm.
Posted by: dl | September 8, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
oneofthecracks:
…Not so fast. You should check the state-by-state polls. Remember, electors, not the popular vote, decides who is president. Palin has energized a bunch of yahoos in red states that McCain was already doing well in. However, it has done little to energize the moderate/independent voters in historically blue states like Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Posted by: Ben | September 8, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
To Jake Tapper
Once again Palin is being taken out of context and smeared.
For years it has been known we would have to bail out freddie and fannie.
It wasn’t going to get less expensive the more trouble they were in.
Their structure was too expensive. The CEO pay was outrageous.
It was going to get more expensive the longer we waited to bail them out.
That is what Palin was saying. The longer we waited the more expensive it was going to get to bail them out and it had gotten to expensive.
Stop taking her out of context.
Posted by: Dan | September 8, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
I’m sure Obama is thinking…”Freddie Mac, I thought he just passed away last month. I sure liked his show…anyway where was I? Oh yeah…uh..hopeful change…yeah, that’s what we need!”
Posted by: Joe | September 8, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Palin is as stupid as Dan Quale
Posted by: october155 | September 8, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
paige…
well, ill at least give you credit. you tried. i mean, you STILL bashed the other side more than represent YOUR side, but you did try. but on he one issue you did bring up of signifigance from your side, you atually think our next president should focus more on “tax relief” more than reducing spending?! i mean, you said obam will reduce taxes on those who make less than 250,000 dollars. lets say thats actually what he stands for… what does he REALLY mean by that? where is he going to get all the money the government needs to mke up that “tax break” money? the rich huh? well, could you please tell me how much of the burden the “rich” already pay in taxes? PLEASE find that out and report back. but do you know who else he is going to stick it to? you got it, BIG BUSINESS!!! BIG OIL COMPANIES!!! you know, THE JOB CREATORS!!! but good ol you and i should keep an extra 500 dollars in our pocket each year right?! BARACK OBAMA DOES NOT LIKE CORPORATE AMERICA. have you people not listened to him speak about this?! i mean, i know he is a good speaker (the only reason he is where he is) but he is filling you full of lies. do you know who is going to suffer from his punishment of big business? thats right, the citizens. but he sure makes it sound good dosent he?
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Face it, Palin didn’t have the slightest idea what she was saying and neither did whoever wrote her “off the cuff” remark.
No one expects the candidates to be policy experts on every single topic, but in the year of the housing crisis, Freddie and Fannie are KIND OF A BIG DEAL. Should should at the minimun know that they are GSEs and not government agencies.
Posted by: Chris | September 8, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
I am a republican but I would never vote for her with her ridiculous lack of knowledge of the world. She has been out of the country once, to Iraq!!! She took five years to graduate from Univ of Idaho. McCain was third from bottom of his class at West Point. We will look more foolish than we already do if we roll that pair out to the world stage as our solution to our current state of affairs.
Posted by: alpo67 | September 8, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
“Confusing comment”?
No, call a spade a spade. She goofed. She messed up. She made a mistake. She got her facts wrong.
Why pussyfoot around the truth?
Posted by: Viking | September 8, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Is it just me or did anyone else notice when the economy started tanking? 2004 once the Dems took over the congress. Trying to blame Bush does’nt wash, everyone knows that it’s Congress that approves spending and oversite!!
Posted by: Ynot | September 8, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
paige…
my only question all day has been why do obama supporters support him? thats the only question ive been going on all afternoon, im not sure where you are going with this… just because i point out a remark made by someone else proving my exact point?!
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Nope. Not a gaffe. Thank you come again! Can’t wait to seize on SOMETHING she’ll eventually get wrong so you can say SEE!!! We didn’t jump the gun!!! Pathetic.
Here’s a clue, if we have to read from you why what she said is wrong and go over a lengthy explanation of WHY she’s wrong (because most of us probably don’t know and don’t care, YET) it doesn’t really count as a gaffe. Why don’t you ask her to spell potato?
Posted by: Rob | September 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Wow, this is a lame story. Fannie and Freddie got into this mess when Andrew Cuomo, as head of HUD under Clinton, required that they increase their buying of subprime loans to “serve underserved markets”. Sorry Dems, today’s bailout is what happens when the government decides to force the market to issue bad loans in the interest of pushing home ownership down to people who can’t afford it. But, of course, Democrats WANT a command and control economy – you reap what you sow.
Posted by: Brandon | September 8, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
alpo67…
good job trying to act like a disgruntled republican… lol “i dont like either of them so im going to have to vote for barack obama”… yeah, that almost makes sense.. lol
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Palin’s first gaffe. EVERYBODY politician does that.
I am sure it won’t be her last.
Posted by: Mark | September 8, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
McCain 54% – Obama 44% – the wheels have fallen off Obama’s bus. lol. Obama’s a clown.
Posted by: Matt | September 8, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
brandon…
NOOOO!!! dont come in here and represent the actual FACTS of wht lead to this mortgage crisis!!! the left dosent want to hear that, they just assume it was part of george bush’s “eight years of doom”!!!!!
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Tim says ” you STILL bashed the other side more than represent YOUR side”
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And you’ve been doing what?… I’ve given you legislative records (that’s when you wanted to make Obama against Palin) and a host of other things. We disagree. I don’t listen to Obama, I READ. Novel concept. I read countless papers and non-partisan reports. In all seriousness, most of my uber-wealthy friends don’t keep their money here anyway. I vote policy although on a few issues I agree with McCain and at that point it does get a bit personal. You see, I can’t get the vision of him eating cake with Bush while my families homes on the Gulf Coast were being blown away during Katrina – nor can I get the image out of my mind of all the Katrina legislation McCain voted against to help the people along the Gulf Coast. Good Luck to You.
Posted by: Paige | September 8, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Now people will begin to wake up and realize this woman knows NOTHING!!!! Her speech was written (probably by Karl Rove) for her and yes, she delivered a heck of a speech – but she doesn’t know a thing – maybe God told her to say this since she says God wanted the Feds to contribute $$ for the gas pipeline, or the other earmarks she sought. She paid people for voting for her….in Alaska, they do that.
Posted by: Jenna, NYC | September 8, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
ARE YOU KIDDING???? How can anyone go to sleep at night just thinking of this woman being just a heartbeat away? It is not only enough to scare anyone, but enough to give you nightmares!!! Any level-headed person, whether a citizen of the United States, or any world citizen should really be horrified at the thought of Palin ever becoming a leader of the United States. Other than the fundamentalists and Al-qaeda, no one else in the world would like to see the downfall of this great nation, even though they may not like us as much. The very thought of her being in charge has been sending shudders down the spine of most other nations. Frequent questions from everywhere: “Are American all that dumb that they cannot see where the country will end up if she is elected?” Each of us should ask ourselves the same question Are we all that dumb? Surely we are a better country than this.
Posted by: Karen | September 8, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
This is what happens when people don’t listen to Ron Paul. He called this one years ago.
GOP reaps what it sows. In this case, garbage.
Vote Panama John and Danielle Quayle ’08–and let stupidity regin!
(And Obama is no better–vote third party fo real solutions!)
Posted by: Tannim | September 8, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Uh if we are splitting hair’s, lets talk about the “My Muslim Faith” comment this weekend. And then Obama had to be corrected. If we are going to be throwing stones people, throw them from both sides.
Posted by: Sean | September 8, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
What about these gaffes by Obama? USA has 57 states…..er I mean Christian (who confuses their own religion?)…I voted against the surge, but it was wildly successful, yet I wouldn’t have voted for the surge even if I knew it work work. What? This is the best the Dems could come up with for Prez? Cake walk for McCain/Palin. I just watched Biden’s rally speech on MSNBC…it’s like watching a cold fish flop around in a room filled with even colder fish.
Posted by: Brian K | September 8, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
To blame the democratic congress for the economy is absurd. The republicans have had over 90 filibusters in the last two years alone. The most ever. Tough to get anything done when you have to deal with that.
Posted by: Rich Leick | September 8, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Sorry Brandon, but it was George Bush who made it a goal to “make homes more affordable”…
Not a bad goal.
However, the process was totally unregulated and much of the mortgage crisis today is due to practices by mortgage companies who did not adhere to their own underwriting principles. Additionally, investment firms were packaging sub-prime loans as “Triple A” investments. That’s what you call an investment scheme… And you want to blame Andrew Cuomo and Hillary Clinton? Is that something that Shawn Hannity taught you?
Posted by: Ben | September 8, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
The Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac problems are the result of senator Biden and his pushing the reform bill for the mortgage industry. Why doesn’t the media go after the cause of our mortgage meltdown? Biden, just another washington politician, a good match for a non-leader, like Obama.
Vote for McCain/Palin in 2008 !!!!!
Posted by: John W. | September 8, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
This whatever it is is exhausting. How dare you expect anyone to know the details of Freddie/Fannie issue. The CEO’s don’t even know the details, hello that’s why we are in this mess. You are dumb for thinking this is a gaffe. Hello by the way it’s 200 Billion, that’s the check we as taxpayers could possibly write. If that’s not too expensive and too big, then we deserve the contempt of the world. By the way has Obama said anything in detail about this palooza of debt and mayhem. Of course not because he doesn’t discuss details! He just smiles and says some one liner about hope and the future and people swoon. I’m tired of the sexist attitudes!
Posted by: ricky | September 8, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Personally this election is exhausting. I wonder how many of us really know enough about Freddie and Fannie to even be commenting. It seems to me no matter what side your on you can always go out and find something negative about the other side if you look hard enough. How about we start only speaking when we have a positive thought about our candidates. I’m guessing that would shut up a lot of us!
Posted by: Disillusioned Voter | September 8, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Ryan C – Most towns have debt that they incur when they take on loans (usually state or federal loans) for capital improvement projects. Mayors never make these decisions solo – usually there is a town council, a town manager and voters who share in the success or failure. How much debt is your hometown currently in?
Posted by: Just Me | September 8, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Sounds like the McCain campaign will need to sequester Palin a bit longer so Lieberman can tutor her some more before allowing her to answer questions. LOL!
Posted by: sawrad | September 8, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
I did not know that they were private. I did not know that they were owned by INVESTORS. Learn something knew everyday.
Posted by: mere | September 8, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Gaffes: Obama 693 and counting.
I love how the left is comparing Obama to Palin. Our vice-presidential candidate to their presidential candidate. I guess we should start comparing Biden to McCain’s choice for secratary of state or labor.
Posted by: Joe | September 8, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Palin should have been asked for an explanation. At this point, I’m sure she has all her talking points memorized on this issue.
Posted by: plantain11 | September 8, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Jenna, NYC–I agree with you regarding her speech, the McCain camp do not want her to talk to the media why? Also, McCain only nominate her because he thinks we women are stupid and will vote for him. No vote for me this year.
Posted by: Randy | September 8, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
we did not bail out enron why should we the taxpayer have to bail out freddie and fannie, no body bails us out when the bills are not paid
Posted by: oneofthecracks | September 8, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
~~ Fannie and Freddie HAVE gotten too big for taxpayers. How many more failing enterprises are we taxpayers going to have to foot the bill for? It’s funny that when Enron execs cooked the books, they went to jail (and rightly so), Fannie and Freddie execs do exactly the same thing and they get a cushy retirement deal, paid for, of course, by we the taxpayers.
Posted by: Missy M | September 8, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Well,well,well, the barracuda finally opens her mouth to say something not prepared for her by a team of 10 speechwriters, and what does she say? Fannie and Freddie were supported by taxpayers and got too big. She got it backwards! Ha, ha. You know, if America does elect her, it’ll get what it deserves. More of the McSame, only now, with the empty suit – with lipstick! – twitching at his side.
Posted by: cmgmaggie | September 8, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Fannie and Freddie drive home prices up, not make them affordable. Yes. They cost us too much BEFORE the bailout. The bailout cost the same as a year and a half in Iraq. Nice job to all involved. clap. clap. clap.
Posted by: Craig | September 8, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
And let’s hope Charles Gibson conducts a real (vs. “softball”) interview with Sarah Palin, like the grilling George Stephanopolis gave Barack Obama over the weekend. Then we’ll see if she’s confused or unprepared to be VP.
Posted by: sawrad | September 8, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Those who claim that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not government entities probably also believe that the US Post Office isn’t a governmental entity either. But the taxpayers always have to bail these outfits out when they have a financial problem, which, in my opinion, leaves precious little to support the idea that they are “private” in any sense of the word.
Posted by: Jim Andrews | September 8, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
What’s important to note here is that this isn’t just a simple slip of the tongue. This shows a fundamental ignorance of the basics, and an attempt to speak with authority, when there’s no knowledge to back it up. Whether her supporters would know any better is debatable.
Posted by: Brant | September 8, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Matt’s happy: “McCain 54% – Obama 44% – the wheels have fallen off Obama’s bus. lol. Obama’s a clown.”
Fine, I guess that means for the next two months the wingnuts can finally quit calling him the “messiah,” right?
Posted by: Hokuto | September 8, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Actually, Governor Palin’s comment makes more sense than ABC’s critique of it. Fanny and & Freddie are (were?) private in the sense that private shareholders earned the *profits,* but they have always been subsidized by the implicit guarantee that the Federal government would bail them out. That *implicit* subsidy is now becoming an *explicit* one, but it’s always been there. (Think of it as the Govt all along paying insurance premiums for these risks.) In short: no, this isn’t a gaffe. For the long version, see today’s (Sept 8) Wall Street Journal editorial.
–Spencer B., PhD, economics prof. Georgia State Univ.
Posted by: Spencer | September 8, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
mere said, “I did not know that they were private. I did not know that they were owned by INVESTORS. Learn something knew everyday.” Thank God you’re not going to be in charge of US economic policy either, then!
Posted by: Eric | September 8, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Now it appears that both McCain and Paling don’t have a clue about the nations economy and how things are run! Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are both private entities that Palin now says are too costly to taxpayers, unless of course she is saying it is too expensive to bail them out. If that is the case, then her opinion would destroy our capitalistic economic system. Gawd, too clueless people on the top of the Republican ticket.
Posted by: PhilBgood | September 8, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
McCain and his sidekick have announced that they are willing to take questions about Moose hunting and the proper way to ride a snowmobile. That’s all you’re going to get until the debates!
Posted by: Ben | September 8, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
When are we going to list Obama’s many gaffes?
Posted by: mel | September 8, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
ynot – the Dems didnt take over congress until jan 2007
Posted by: rookie_63 | September 8, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Come on folks. the credit crisis was a combination of the huge increase in government debt, both republican and democrat. The housing crisis was due to increase in ARM’s and this was reflected in the valuble of the dollar. Most people who could afford their homes couldn’t when the rates readjusted and the economy shrank. Lok at Roman history and you will find that rome collapsed because they imported everything and were basically a “service” economy”. To quote my favorite personality Earl Pitts “Wake up America,Mcain is a good guy, but we neeed more than negative ads, we need a new way of doing things. By the way, why do we give big tax breaks to companies that don’t give Americans jobs? One of you bone heads suggested that corporate America should not be taxed becasue they create jobs, actually the vast majority of jobs are created by SMALL business.
Get real>>>>>>>>
Posted by: Marty | September 8, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
As a woman, John McCain insulted me. Any man with Governor Palin’s credentials would have his resume thrown in the trash. Palin is a tokenism. McCain could have showed much more respect to us by picking a much more qualified female Republican, like Olympia Snowe. He made us a tokenism, and screw him, I’m not giving him my vote
Posted by: sylvie2566 | September 8, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
What’s important to note here is that this isn’t just a simple slip of the tongue. This shows a fundamental ignorance of the basics, and an attempt to speak with authority, when there’s no knowledge to back it up. Whether her supporters would know any better is debatable.
Posted by: Brant | September 8, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Paige,
Thank you…Thank you, and did I say Thank you! Please keep posting those stats. Some of these people need a reality check. It seems to me that the bar has already been lowered for some of them as well. It’s very obvious that Sarah doesn’t have the sense that “GOD GAVE A GOOSE”. Damn, now I’ve insulted geese!
Posted by: Buffee | September 8, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
As suspected she is an empty suit
Posted by: Jeff | September 8, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Private entites yes, but privately regulated no, they are GOVERNMENT regulated, and if a bail out happens, who gets the bills, we the tax payers. I’m sorry Obama is right, you people really are stupid if you think we will not get hit with a slight burden on this.
Posted by: James | September 8, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I love the guy here who says Biden is just another “Washington politician”. And then, who does he say to vote for? McCain! All too funny!
Posted by: cmgmaggie | September 8, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
This shouldn’t surprise anyone. She has never had to deal with national issues, let alone international issues. And McCain has put her in a position (if he wins) where she will be a heartbeat away from running our country. That’s hardly good judgment. That’s hardly “putting country first.”
Obama/Biden ’08, for REAL CHANGE.
Posted by: JKL | September 8, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Freddie and Fannie are no more government industries than banks (which are backed by the FDIC). There’s no such thing as a free market economy either. Businesses are pro-free market when they’re making profits (sometimes obscene profits, such as the oil companies right now), but all about the government (taxpayer) bailout when they’re not. A free market would let the housing market complete its crash (and send the general economy into a deeper recession or even a depression) and learn its lesson.
Posted by: FrankieStage | September 8, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
It’s funny that no where on this site is Obama’s major flub of the week when he accidently said “my Muslim faith” when he meant to say “my Christian faith.” OOOps
Posted by: Lavender | September 8, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Unfortunately Obama was to quick to copy Palin and repeated the same thing. Oops!
Posted by: Patty | September 8, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
On Gov. Palin’s worst day, Obama can’t compare. Her accomplishments, leadership and executive experience far exceed “The One”. The polls indicate “The One” is not the one…
Posted by: BR549 | September 8, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Jim Andrews – With the acceptance of the notion that Fannie & Freddie should be bailed out, are you implicitly suggesting that it’s ok for this “conservative” president to engage in something completely socialistic in principle?
It’s hillarious how all of these Republicans are just accepting the “communist”-style bailout/takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as if it is not competely diametrical to everything that conservatives claim to believe in… Wow. I guess conservatives are becoming to the new “liberals”!
Posted by: Ben | September 8, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Unfortunately, Palin can make a major mistake every day from now until the election….and it won’t matter to the majority of the McCain/Palin supporters. Many of them will remain completely clueless to the mistakes. And the rest of them will choose to ignore them, as long as Palin is pro-life, pro-guns, anti-facts and anti-science!!
Posted by: Marc | September 8, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
I pity the Republicans, especially the many who vote against their own self-interest. Government has grown under Republican rule. Bailouts are coming aplenty – and believe me, there will be more for the bankers and consumers who spent too much and made fast profits off of the stupid consumers. The government is using debt to pay for the failing investment banks and what does our country have to show for it? Not good jobs. Not good or safe infrastructure. A war where we got the country somewhat back to what it was when we started? Remember, we have borrowed from China and Russia to pay for the war.
Let’s end the bickering and the greed and think about what we want as a country. What are our goals? What do we want it to look like 50 years from now. We talk and behave like a bunch of binge drinkers and spenders.
It’s really tragic.
Posted by: SO | September 8, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
this is a stretch, fannie and freddie just cost the taxpayers 100B. so they do cost the taxpayers alot of money.
Posted by: jexem | September 8, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
I don’t see where the confusion is in what Palin said.
The government has left a strong impression with the public and business community that it will always back Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac a 100 percent. These two private businesses have been able to grow into massive giants by this implied backing.
Now that the bill could be upwards of $5 trillion dollars, it is time for the federal government to rethink its level of backing of mortgage giants, including limiting the size of these institutions that have the backing of the federal government (taxpayers).
Even the federal government limits the backing of YOUR deposits in private banks ($100K). The taxpayers are ultimately the insurers of these institutions.
Posted by: Andrew F | September 8, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Tim..
I promise I am not “trying” to look like anything. I would rather squander trillions on social programs I don’t agree with than pump it into Exxon and Halliburton while looking like foolish war mongers
Posted by: alpo67 | September 8, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
McCain had 26 years to change Washington. But he didn’t.
Instead there was his friend Keating a savings and loan banker who McCain protected from the Banking Regulatory board telling them to back off his friend. And whom Bush SR. bailed out with billions in Taxpayer’s money.
Instead McCain abused his own bill he help push on stopping the use of taking money and gifts from Lobbyists and companies while a measure is on a bill that is up for vote or before the Senate Committee deciding on a measure of which McCain was head of.
McCain represent change? With his record? Dream on!
Posted by: mere | September 8, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
This morning GMA showed Sarah’s closest friends who said she never talked politics. I think she’s too busy shooting moose and getting involved in the Christmas ornament exchange to know what’s going outside of Alaska. Truth is McCain has become a shadow of Bush…non existent. He let’s the little lady do the talking.
Posted by: seenitallx9 | September 8, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Palin showed us a clear example of her clueless background. Putting it bluntly, the woman is stupid. Like all Republicans supporting McCain, she counts on American voters to blindly follow her swishing hips no matter what she says. And the best the republican machine that supports this idiot could do only compounded her problem with their linguistic charades.
Posted by: Butch Dillon | September 8, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
The fact that this race is so tight is a sad commentary on the intelligence of 50% percent of the American voting public. Its really rather shocking and disturbing… more than it is sad.
Posted by: Marc | September 8, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Palin doesn’t understand Fannie Mae or its function on Wall Street, or how its mismanagement played a part in America’s biggest financial disaster since the Great Depresssion… but that should not be a problem for the McCain campaign because they’re marketing to voters who don’t care. Even though the War in Iraq and the subprime mortgage crisis will affect the federal budget for decades, McCain is counting on voters to NOT understand.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 8, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Is it just me or has everyone forgotten who ran the executive branch AND both the House and Senate for most of the last 8 years and the results of that?
Posted by: Vegas | September 8, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Obma threw Hillary and Bill under the bus, look who is dragging them out from under the bus, now? Bill and Hillary have sunk to new lows, helping Obama. Everyone knows the unfriendly feeling between the Clintons and Osama. Looks like Obama can’t handle the heat!
Posted by: paulette in Ocala Fl. | September 8, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
No surprising at all. Apparently McCain’s advisors had not written the script for this before she opened her mouth. Look for a few more before this is over. That is what happens with big mouthed people. They tend to stick their feet in it.
Posted by: William | September 8, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
This is too funny. Palin doesn’t have any idea about Fannie and Freddie. This is why people like her have no business being on anyone’s national ticket.
Fannie and Freddie operate like brokers. They buy loans originated by banks and then pool the loans and sell the pools to investors (many of which are large institutional investors). The problem was this: Fannie and Freddie bought would-be problem loans. Investors who bought their pooled loans got upset and they first tried to pursue some recourse against Fannie/Freddie. When that failed, they sold their interest in the pool. Word got out about Fannie’s trouble and fewer investors bought Fannie’s pools. Suddenly, Fannie and Freddie had these loans out there. . . and they owned the risk.
Palin likely has heard of Fannie and Freddie, but I doubt she understands their complexity. Few governors — aside from the more seasoned governors — would have a reason to understand this. Senators, Representatives and agency heads care about this. A governor who has been governing for 18 months has no idea.
If the Obama people don’t pounce on this obvious shortcoming, they’ll help ensure a Governor Palin becomes our Vice President.
Posted by: teo | September 8, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Sarah states that the “McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.” Let’s face it, Freddie and Fannie are outside of the bounds of their orginal intent. They have been taking on high risk mortgages, investment properties and other risks beyond the intent to assist homeowners with their primary residence when the homeowner could not get a bank mortgage. Perhaps it is time for Freddie and Fannie to be “smaller, smarter and more effective”. This is not confusing to me.
Posted by: LouisvilleGreg | September 8, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
The story I don’t buy is your “Jake” automtic skepticism. What do you want from a one sentence stump speech a doctorial? What we get from you “media” which is really good is an interview of Sarah’s arobics class. How about the other three do they exercise with anybody that has an opinion other then theirs?
Posted by: Hank Irelan | September 8, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Sarah Palin is in WAY over her head!! She probably thinks that Fannie May and Freddie Mac are her hillbilly husband’s aunt and uncle!
Posted by: Atheist 1 | September 8, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
I guarantee you that Charlie Gibson will throw her softball, b/c the media and ABC is own by white rich guys who are republican.
MSNBC just got rid of their 2 thoughest reporters because they dared to question the power and call the republicans on the carpet!
ABC will also buckel and not ask the hardball questions.
We are doomed! McCain/Palin are going to win and we will go to war.
Start kissing your babies goodbye, because McCain will bring the draft back (his great grandfather is the one who started it). Just like Bush I that went to Iraq, Bush II occupied it.
Be afraid….be very afraid.
Posted by: tony | September 8, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Where are all of the real “good ol’” fiscal conservatives? I’m looking for the tough-talking “let the market fix it” guys, like the ones at the RNC, who don’t believe that government should interfere with the market… They say that the govt. shouldn’t interfere with the high cost of oil; they say that govt. shouldn’t interfere with the high cost of health care; they don’t believe that the govt. should help all of us subprime working class “idiots” who bought into these mortgage schemes; And God knows that they don’t believe that either the government or even those alien “community organizers” should help the poor… Where are those guys today?
On a day when taxpayers are paying billions to bailout Fannie & Freddie, you would think that the “real” conservatives and libertarians would be revolting in the streets!
Posted by: Ben | September 8, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Marc, I couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve been saying that for a long time. In fact, my contention is that most Americans are single issue voters. Guns, abortion, gay marriage. Those are the only issues that matter to most of them. I just wish they had an intelligence test for gaining the right to vote.
Posted by: William | September 8, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
You know Jake must be a good reporter ’cause he angers both Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin supporters equally.
Posted by: 12_angry_men | September 8, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Yes today they are taken over by the government and more than likely she already had that information. Are you the same 50% that think Saddam Hussein attacked the U.S. This bailout is going to cost the U.S. taxpayer big money and she is correct it should be split.
Posted by: Darrell | September 8, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
tim – Change means…
-Universal health care.
-Not just acknowledge that global warming exists but take action to reduce it through alternative energy sources, hybrid cars, etc.
-Create green collar jobs.
-Invest in our infrastructure, also creating jobs.
-End the war in Iraq. Focus on Afghanistan.
-Restore our position on the world stage.
-Truly invest in education so we can compete with China. Increase teacher pay, merit pay.
-Will separate out the social security fund so those funds are not used to balance the federal budget, as is currently the case.
-Restore sanity to Wall Street by bringing back oversight.
-Tax cuts for all, except for those making over $603,403 a year.
-End tax benefits to companies who ship jobs overseas.
-End the corporate tax loopholes.
-Shut down Guantanamo Bay.
-Finally pass a bill to create equal pay for equal work.
-Raise the minimum wage, indexing it to the inflation rate.
-Diplomacy vs. saber-rattling.
-Secure loose nuclear materials.
-End the practice of lobbyists writing our laws.
-And on those awful earmarks, disclose the name of legislators who ask for earmarks and require a written justification within 72 hours before they will be approved by the Senate.
-end subsidies to oil and gas companies who have had record profits.
And more…
Besides talking about how he will change Washington, McCain has not given specifics on how he will improve the economy, end the Iraq war, deal with the resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan or any of the issues listed above. Social security is not even addressed on his web site. The GOP had a 3 days to answer these questions but instead chose to bash Obama and praise McCain’s POW status.
And McCain will end the requirement that employers provide health insurance. Instead, he will send you a check for $5,000 for families ($2,500 for individuals) to buy your own health insurance on the market. Most plans cost $800 or more a month, close to $10K a year.
Posted by: cincyr | September 8, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
You would be hard pressed to find more than 5% of population that understands what Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac do as they are quasi-private entities.
They are perfect examples of cronism-capitalism that both parties were tied into. Dems be careful of being too loud on this failure – this is one of the Dems fav institutions.
Posted by: Dave | September 8, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Wow, these comments are hilarious. Let me offer a simple summary of this situation that the experts sort of danced around. What we know is that 1) FRE and FNM have gotten too big and 2) taxpayers have been on the hook “implicitly” since their formation and essentially “explicitly” since July 13, 2008 when 1) the Federal Reserve opened its discount window to both companies, 2) the Treasury Department increased the lines of credit available to both companies (which were already at $2.25 billion each), and 3) the Treasury Department announced plans to potentially purchase equity in both companies. If the folks at the Center for Economic and Policy Research, Center for American Progress, and Cato Institute know that FRE and FNM have NOT BORROWED from the Treasury or Fed they should say so. Otherwise, their comments are way off base. And even if they did not access those relatively cheap funding sources (which I doubt), it was made abundantly clear on July 13 that the federal government would not let these companies fail.
Posted by: Daniel | September 8, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Jake, thank you for asking these questions, but I think “confusing” is being too kind. What is the deal with the media being afraid to challenge Palin’s obvious lack of experience/knowledge for this position? If she were a man the Republicans would never have picked her. The whole thing is a sexist, hypocritical flim flam job and the media is playing along.
Posted by: Ruth | September 8, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
This isn’t anywhere near as bad in my opinion as Obama not realizing that Russia is a permanent member of the UN Security Council and will veto any resolutions against itself.
Posted by: Rachel | September 8, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Dave – given the importance of Fannie & Freddie to our overall economy, shouldn’t Palin already understand how they are run? After all, she is the one with “EXECUTIVE” experience…
Posted by: Ben | September 8, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Yikes.. the Lady tries to cover the latest news without talking about the Federal Reserve and etc, what people believe is that the Taxpayer will continue to bail out our deplorable credit problems.
What the author should be researching is
information regarding the following:
Obams’s Occidental College records
Obama’s Columbia College records
Obama’s Columbia Thesis paper
Obama’s Harvard College records
Obama’s Selective Service Registration
Obama’s Medical records
Obama’s Illinois State Senate records
A certified copy of Obama’s Original Birth Certificate
Obama’s embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
Any Obama Harvard Law Review articles that were published (I have found one.)
Obama’s University of Chicago scholarly articles or publications.
Mr. Obama is being considered for the highest job in America, and he should provide the above as if he would be interviewing for that position in Corporate American.
So far all the MSM have ‘protected’ the real Obama from the public, but are real quick to jump on the lady from Alaska.
Posted by: Bob Miller | September 8, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Based on what I’ve heard about Governor Palin, I’m surprised she didn’t simply ask us to all say a prayer for Frannie and Freddie. God will save them … problem solved! ;-)
Posted by: sawrad | September 8, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
The problem is Fannie and Freddie were in her cram session for this Tuesday and she didn’t get her talking points on them yet. Who could have predicted someone might mention unimportant issues like the failing mortgage industry at one of the McCain/Palin pep rallies? Palin knows nothing about the economy or anything else involved in becoming the VP by her own admission, and people supporting her ignorance blindly are just following the GOP party line.
Posted by: Mary | September 8, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Sarah is too confused on this issue, have her stick to more simple things like recipes and mooseburgers and which books to ban from my library
Posted by: Louis~ | September 8, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Alex H and Rachel – Do you know anything about the “Third Wave”? If you don’t understand the “Third Wave” you don’t understand Palin’s so-called Christian faith.
Posted by: Ben | September 8, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Give me a break…yes when it is privatized profit and social risk (taxpayer) it is become way too expensive to the American people…I wish you would disect some of Senator Obama’s comments as closely….two words for you buddy…”dem hack”
Posted by: Mark | September 8, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
On Gov. Palin’s worst day, Obama can’t compare. Her accomplishments, leadership and executive experience far exceed
*********************
Please enlighten us with her “accomplishments,
leadership and executive experience” I’ve heard
all talk and no reponse, which tells me that we
have a ghost writer making up her resume’.
“The One”. The polls indicate “The One” is not the one… And McCain/Palin are none, so they are done.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 8, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
OH NO!!! You broke the case dude! Sarah Palin must be unqualified given this earth shattering revelation. Voters with such enlightening information will have clarity when they pull the lever in November. Mmmm, Palin on the “bailout” ,or on the other hand, Obama on making close ties with a radical non-repented anti-american who admitedly bombed an American facility and a man who is heading to the slammer. These are difficult choices; I select the woman.
Posted by: Bill | September 8, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
First, Fannie and Freddie are quasi-government/private companies, reaping the benifits of both worlds. There McClatchy was dishonest about.
What Gov.Palin was refering to is, it should have never happened, but since it did let us learn so it will not happen again.
Then again, I would not expect the liberal media to give her a conservative a fair shake, but be bias as well ways, even if it means being sexist.
Posted by: Micheal | September 8, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
You are sure grasping at straws with the so called Palin gaffe. What about Barrack saying on ABC “my muslim faith”. That was on your network and you neglect to even mention it. You are most definitely in the tank for Obama. Why not just admit it.
Posted by: sara | September 8, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
I guess The New Yorker magazine was correct. The truth will set you free. My muslim faith, from the lips of Obama himself! Why didn’t ABC report this news, rather than go after Gov. Palin, when she was actually right.
ABC isn’t bias in favor of Obama, are they?
Gov. Palin looks more like a winner, than Obama.
Posted by: Baron | September 8, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Palin has been scripted and reading from a teleprompter since her introduction about 10 days ago. She will have to answer questions and respond to her record and the claims she and the McCain campaign are making about it. You can’t train for the vice presidency in three weeks. She can’t remain sequestered and expect to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
I’m waiting for that first press conference.
Posted by: mary | September 8, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
It’s quite easy to understand why Palin was confused here. The Republicans don’t know about Obama’s money tree yet . . . . you know, the tree he’ll use to put everyone’s kids through Harvard and provide Congressman quality health care for free.
Those Republicans still think that the government’s only source of revenue is from taxes. I guess, in a way, you can’t blame them. . . . before the money tree, taxes actually were the only source of revenue the government could use to pay for the 200 billion dollar debt they just inherited.
Posted by: Dave B | September 8, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
The Republicans should drop
Palin and pick one who’s
more ready.
The Democrats should let Biden
go and put Hillary in the
Number 2 spot.
Posted by: anon | September 8, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
lol most of you people writing these comments have no idea what you are talking about. By pumping money into fannie and freddie from the federal reserve, it essentially creates an inflation tax that affects everyone. More money printed equals more dollars which lowers the value of the dollar.
Posted by: someone intelligent | September 8, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
It’s really amazing to see how arogant many Democrats continue to be. Anyone who is a woman and supports a Republican is stupid; any minority who agrees with McCain is brainless; anyone who likes Palin is clueless.
Isn’t it interesting how the people who gave us “President” Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry, and now Obama think that somehow they know more than everybody else. How could any intelligent, wise, person ever think differently from them?
Unfortunately, the Democrats don’t ever learn and don’t ever get it. THey never make mistakes, so they tell themselves in a mutual admiration society. At least McCain has the sense to admonish his party when he thinks they are wrong. But the Democrats never are, are they!
Until the Democrats learn from their arrogant past and talk to Americans, respectfully, and actually listen without lecturing, then they may have the hope of electing one of their own. Until then, they will simply keep marginalizing themselves and talking in an echo chamber.
Posted by: Duck, NC | September 8, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Mark – so enlighten us… How will a “McCain-Palin administration make them (Fannie & Freddie) smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help”? After all she followed up her lack of understanding with a campaign promise… How will their administration make it smaller? (Maybe we have to wait until next week. Her crash course hasn’t covered that part yet).
Posted by: Anti-RNC | September 8, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
FNMA and Freddie got in this trouble by literally giving mortgages to the homeless. It seems a $10 an hour job qualified many people for a mortgage.
And now “I”…YES SARAH IS RIGHT…the taxpayer has to bail them out
Posted by: Robn Byrd | September 8, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
FNMA and Freddie got in this trouble by literally giving mortgages to the homeless. It seems a $10 an hour job qualified many people for a mortgage.
And now “I”…YES SARAH IS RIGHT…the taxpayer has to bail them out
Posted by: Robn Byrd | September 8, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
When Russia invaded Georgia, Obama waffled for three days before finally coming to the same conclusion as Sen. McCain. At one point Obama said the UN Security Council should act – apparently he was not aware that Russia holds a veto on the Council. Where was ABC News then? Obama demonstrated that he lacks knowledge on how to navigate in this very dangerous world. ABC News must have been picking up its DNC talking points when Georgia was invaded.
Posted by: Zero Obama | September 8, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
WOW! What a streatch. Jake, if your looking for a gaff your gonna have to do better than this. I knew Dan Quayle, and this is no Da Quyale. However, it does show that you guys are gonna tryp your best to play gotcha and try to pain Palin as a Quyale if you possibly can. By the looks of things you ahve your work cut out for you.
Posted by: dgburns | September 8, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Reminds me of the statement made on another network by Cindy McCain. She was asked if she was pro-life. “Yes,” she replied. Then they asked her if she supported Roe v Wade (the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion). “Yes,” she said. Then, realizing she’d gotten in deep, she started back pedaling. By the time it was over, I was sure of one thing. Cindy McCain had no idea what the exact relationship between Roe v Wade and legalized abortion on demand was. That was troubling, as is this confused meander by Sarah Palin. In a rational world, John McCain would have lost the election the minute he announced Sarah Palin as a running mate. But in this world, he may actually have gained a point or two on Obama. I’ve just never seen the like…
Posted by: Jon Trott from Chicago, Illinois | September 8, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Come on. Anyone who watched the “grilling” saw that Barack Obama misspoke during a series of questions and responses involving the words Muslim and Christian; he immediately corrected himself. On the other hand, Sarah Palin, demonstrated a fundamental lack of understanding about an important issue. There’s a huge difference!
Posted by: sawrad | September 8, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
What a reach!!!!
The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have now become to expensive to the taxpayers because of the bail out.
But you can still support the bail out because of the need to do it and believe that statement.
nice try and better luck next time jake
Posted by: AzDave | September 8, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
For those who are on the “my muslim faith” bent…go back and listen to the interview. Obama said that in the context that McCain himself has not said that Obama is a Muslim, although there may be people in the Republican party may be responsible for spreading that rumor…much like there may be people in the Democratic party spreading untrue rumors about Palin.
Posted by: Suki | September 8, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
It looks like joe lieberman and her other tutors did not do a good enough job on the economic side of her tutelage. It is the first of many. For someone to have taken 6 years to get through 4 years of college, it is inevitable.
Posted by: Economic warrior | September 8, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
If you can read and comprehend. The taxpayer hasn’t started footing the bill for this. That is what Jake was bringing up. It was only announced over the weekend so how can it be that she said it has become to expensive for the taxpayer?
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
I’m just an average person and I know both entities are private, not public. Tapper is correct in stating that any interpretation of Palin’s remarks reveal a contradiction in facts. As others have stated, she is suffering from a common problem encountered by people cramming for exams: She is getting her facts confused.
Posted by: jb | September 8, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
PAILN: UNFIT TO LEAD!
Posted by: USMC | September 8, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
What about Obama “confusing statement” about Palin and earmarks? Why not cover that?
Obama:”She’s a skillful politician. But, you know, when you’ve been taking all these earmarks when it’s convenient, and then suddenly you’re the champion anti-earmark person, that’s not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can’t just make stuff up.”
Problem is Obama requested $740 million in earmarks, steered a million to his wife’s employer, and directed state grants to his buddies like Fr. Michael Pfleger.
What you really can’t make up is the obvious collusion between the media and Obama It is just beyond belief that you would go after Palin for some innocuous remark yet cover up for Obama on his obvious confused statements and out right lies.
Posted by: terry | September 8, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
She is right! They are too big and now the bailout is expensive! They need to be broken up into many smaller companies to distribute the risks more broadly and tighten up the regulations.
It was the DEMOCRATS who insisted on sloppy loans for all-comers
Posted by: BJL | September 8, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Sounds like your typical canned republispeak. in reality, of course, we just witnessed the largest nationalization of an industry in the history of civilization. once freddie’s and fannie’s liabilities hit the balance sheet of our country, we’ll have increase the national debt by 50%.
Posted by: Steve | September 8, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
I think reporters like Jake tapper should consult ABC Financial Experts before concluding something is a gaffe or not.
In this case, she meant what she said and is perfectly compatible with what the others in the McCain camp put out.
My concern is Obama supporters will actually think this is a gaffe and will go on a tangential argument how Palin is cynical for campaigning with her eyewear.
Posted by: Roger Miller | September 8, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
LOL…just the first of many “misstatements” that will come from the lips of Sarah…
Listening to all the ones that defend her, when she obviously didn’t understand what she was talking about, reminds me of “those with eyes who cannot see and those with ears who cannot hear…”
Posted by: FranklyMyDear | September 8, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Just think about what would
happen if the Dems drop Biden
for Hillary now?
24/7 news coverage and
positive publicity the next
60 days.
A guaranteed victory in November.
Posted by: anon | September 8, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
What part of “too expensive” you don’t understand when the government has to bail out Fannie and Freddie?
Posted by: diqiti | September 8, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Palin does not understand the concept behind Fannie and Freddie – worse yet, she doesn’t understand that to solve the problem you have to understand the problem. Classic Palin.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | September 8, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Nice to see Jake back to spewing DNC talking points….Posted by: geevill …
Don’t go getting all upset with Jake now geevill…. just because your “hockey mom” doesn’t have a clue what the issues are!!! geeesh….. she must have missed that day of school during her 6 years of college!!!
Posted by: shawn | September 8, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
What the he–?!!? Palin is running for VP against the KING of politically incorrect and beyond stupid off-the-cuff remarks. Where is the scrutiny … where is the outrage? What is wrong with this picture? Come on, Jake, where is the “fair” journalism?!?!?
Posted by: jsue | September 8, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
J . . . .who else besides the taxpayer is going to pay for this. . .do they have 200 billion hidden under the mattress?
Posted by: Dave B | September 8, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Suki, Sorry Suki, I saw the interview and there can be no misinterpretation of what Obama said: Obama: “My Muslim faith” Facts are facts. Deal with it.
Posted by: darly | September 8, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
You are confused:
“What are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and what do they do?”
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are “government-sponsored enterprises” (GSEs). This means that they are privately owned, but receive support from the Federal Government, and assume some public responsibilities.
The GSEs provide a secondary market in home mortgages, purchasing mortgages from the lenders who originate them. They hold some of these mortgages, and some are “securitized” — sold in the form of securities which the GSEs guarantee.
The two GSEs today are among the largest corporations in the world.
What mortgages do the GSEs purchase?
“Conforming mortgages” as they are called consists of all home mortgages that meet the underwriting requirements of the agencies, and are no larger than the largest loan the GSEs are allowed by law to purchase. In 2003 the maximum was $322,700. It is raised every year in line with increases in home prices. The mortgages the GSEs can purchase account for roughly 80% of the conventional (non-FHA/VA) home loan market.
What kind of support do the GSEs receive from Government?
The major support consists of the credit lines with the US Treasury. This, along with their histories — both were public institutions before they became privately owned — mark them as having a special claim for Government assistance in the event they ever get into financial trouble. As a result, investors consider the notes they issue and the mortgage securities they guarantee almost as good as securities issued by the Federal Government itself.
Do the GSEs have competitors?
Not in the conforming loan market. Because of their Government backing, the GSEs can sell notes and securities at a lower yield than any strictly private secondary market firm. This gives them a monopoly — or rather a duopoly, since there are two of them — in the market in which they operate.
The GSEs do have emulators, however, in the non-conforming market. While the cast of players changes, at any one time there are usually 15 or more strictly private firms that purchase non-conforming loans and securitize them in much the same way as the GSEs.
“Why do two private firms receive Government support, while the others don’t?”
The Government did not select the two firms for special treatment. Both the GSEs began as Government entities, and the major objective in privatizing them (while retaining Government support) was to encourage development of a private secondary market. The other firms arose later, based on the GSE model, so that objective was achieved.
If the objective was achieved, why do the GSEs continue to receive special support?
The GSEs are unwilling to give it up, and they have become so powerful politically that they have managed to thwart the several attempts that have been made to take it away.
Do I have anything at stake in this issue?
If you are a potential borrower eligible for a conforming loan, your interest rate will probably be about 1/4% lower than it would be absent the GSEs. This reflects their relatively low funding costs, part of which is passed through to borrowers.
In addition, if you are a low or low-to-moderate income borrower, and/or reside in an underserved area, you might find a loan through a GSE. As part of their public responsibility, the GSEs commit to purchase specified numbers of such loans. How many would not be made without the GSEs, however, is not clear.
As a taxpayer, on the other hand, you have a cause for concern. The low borrowing costs of the GSEs is based on implicit Government backing for their $3+ trillion of debt and guarantees. If the GSEs ever have a financial disaster, the Government will have to bail them out and you and I will be on the hook for the cost.
“Is anybody regulating the GSEs to prevent such a disaster?”
A few years ago Congress gave that responsibility to the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). Very few informed observers believe that HUD is up to the task.
“Is there a way to eliminate the risk of a financial disaster by removing Government support without hurting investors who rely on that support?”
It could be done by 1) revoking the credit line the GSEs now have with the Treasury, and b) providing an explicit Federal guarantee of all debt and GSE guarantees outstanding on the date the credit line is revoked. An explicit guarantee on the old claims would prevent any repercussions in the financial markets, yet put the markets on notice that news ones are not guaranteed. Over time, the volume of guaranteed claims would gradually decline.
Posted by: sanders | September 8, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
If Ms. Palin wants to find out what “too expensive” means – let either of these two fail and watch the ripple effect through the economy – would make the great depression look wonderful.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | September 8, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
geevill:
senator Obama is a confessed Christian and not a Muslim…..
That means he follows the teachings of Jesus, according to his confession, and not that of Mohammed……understand?
Now, in whom do you believe to save your soul? I believe in Jesus the Christ; the Son of the living God.
Posted by: shalom | September 8, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Sarah Palin ws overheard saying, “Fannie Mae??? They sell chocolates in the mall…right???”
Posted by: shawn | September 8, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
ABCnews will do anything to help Obama steal the election. You helped Obama cheat Hillary out of the nomination and now attempting to belittle a far superior candidate, than Obama. I would rather vote for Palin than Obama. Obama has associated with too many crooks, terrorists, criminals, racists and ant-american characters. I will never trust Obama!
Posted by: Sherry 1969 | September 8, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Sarah palin is dumb and so is john mccain. i cant wait to see the debate between her and Biden because I dont care how pretty she is he is going to eat her alive. Now Im a woman and when you are vindictive and get in your sisters marital issues and trying to have the man fired, how did you thinkhe was going to pay her spousal support or child support so that he can take care of his kids. So what he’s a loser trooper there is still a process. I work for a large mortgage company and if she doesnt know that Fannie and Freddie are private and gnma is government then she needs to go back to high school economics 101. This is why Mccain does not want her to speak so much publicly, because once the reporters get down to the interviews the scripts are out of the box. We will see the real Sarah Palin in the debates, and then I will laugh until my stomach falls out. Not to mention shes got a teenage pregnant daughter, i dont see Chelsea getting pregnant at 17 or without a college education or without being married which is how it should be done. The ladies a hypocrit and John McCain will back fire on her because his temper is too much. If she knows whats best she would step down now because its getting hotter in the kitchen.
Posted by: wisconsin | September 8, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I don’t like all the lies I’ve heard from her already.
Posted by: Magi | September 8, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
An article in the Wall Street Journal this morning (“Mounting Woes Left Officials With Little Room to Maneuver”) describes the deliberations of officials leading up to this weekend’s government takeover:
“Financial institutions, investors and other market participants were painting a grim picture: Investors weren’t going to invest more in the company unless Treasury kicked in some money, or made clear what would happen to those who did pony up funds.
“Treasury asked how much money it would need to inject. It soon became clear that no amount was going to be enough. If Treasury were to inject $10 billion, the market would want to see $20 billion. If Treasury put forth $20 billion, the market would want $30 billion.”
The newspaper says that this was in “mid-August.” That “no amount was going to be enough” for the Treasury sounds like it would justify Palin’s comment of “too expensive to the taxpayers.”
Posted by: Jack Stephens
*****************************
If this is too expensive, what is the
alternative?
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 8, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
No BJL it was Republicans that fought for and got with the majority they had deregulations on the entire industry juts like oil,power/enron loophole etc. they were fought for buy right wing lobbyist and passed by a GOP lead majority in congress. don’t use the old its the dems fault like Sen. Obama said it is time the GOP/President/Administration own their mistakes
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 8, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
These organizations ARE painfully expensive for the taxpayers who are bailing them out; talk of the bailout has been going around for weeks.
Posted by: Mjöllnir | September 8, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Sara is humiliating herself. Knowing that she does not have the qualifications to be VP she went ahead and accepted the nomination. Why? She must be that dump, stupid and desperate to be in the spotlight. Sara step down and go home and take care of your down syndrome baby 24/7. Give me all the love he needs.
Posted by: janet taylor | September 8, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
What she meant it’s too expensive for taxpayers to pay for this mistake they have made. 200 Billion dollars, where did that money come from? You figure that out, duh!
Posted by: Todd | September 8, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
It is hysterical because the headline above the Jake Tapper smear is FANNIE MAE BALLOUT EXPENSIVE TO TAXPAYERS. So the nitwits at the political sections don’t realize that we have bailout at taxpayer expense. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is huge, bloated overpaid numbnuts. Just look at Obama’s first VP vetter — he got $20 million golden parachute from FANNIE MAE. Or did Jake forget that????
Posted by: Karen | September 8, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
J . . . .who else besides the taxpayer is going to pay for this. . .do they have 200 billion hidden under the mattress?
Posted by: Dave B | Sep 8, 2008 5:50:27 PM
If you read my post I was explaining what she said. How can it be too expensive to the taxpayer when we haven’t started footing the bill?
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
No, the rookie needs some more briefings on the economy. She is sitting with the big kids now, and needs to practice get information before (not after) she opens her mouth.
Posted by: Va Voter | September 8, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
So I’m confused, do the Republicans here support the Bush adminstration’s bailout and takeover of Fannie & Freddie or don’t they? You all are as confused as ever.
Posted by: Scotti | September 8, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
What do we expect from a woman that took 6 years to get through with 4 years of college? And the republicans are happy to have her one heartbeat away from the presidency of the United states. Bush certainly lowered their standards.
Posted by: Economic warrior | September 8, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
What? Are you nuts?? You ask how she could say that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the mess they have gotten into is NOT “too expensive for taxpayers”???? I totally agree with her! We are all looking at this in the context of the bailout that the taxpayers are going to have to pay for. You really have to look at her comments through grossly politically-biased eyes to try to spin this in a way that makes her sound ignorant of the issues. She is totally correct in her statement. Quit the spin game. We are getting so sick of that.
Posted by: are you nuts? | September 8, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
regarding Joe’s comment…..(From a 60+ female who has NO intention of voting for Palin and McCain………..
Palin is a grown woman, has been in politics for a few years, has to talk to teens on a regular basis……if she wanted to say something really specific as you claim she intended to say…….she should have just said it plain and clear…………
her comments do sound as if she misunderstands what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are………….
how do these two plan to pay for a war, bail out countless private industries, pay unknown quantities of dough to Halliburton, et al….
WHERE is the money coming from???…..bye-bye Social Security….work until you die………
as Obama said…..”you are on your own”……
Posted by: lindatx | September 8, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Like her or not, I don’t see the confusion. When you consider that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are only quasi-private companies whose liabilities are backed by the Federal Government (read: taxpayers), then they ARE too expensive, as they’ve been allowed to grow beyond what taxpayers should reasonably be expected to guarantee. As such – because of their failure – we are now stuck bailing them out because to NOT bail them out would cause irrepairable harm to our economy (again, because they were allowed to get too big). Blame Bush if you want, but show me ONE single Democrat that was against making home loans easier to get for low-income families (which are a large part of the Democratic base).
Posted by: Laura H | September 8, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Sarah Palin has literally only just begun!!!
Posted by: Libratine | September 8, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I think TheCrock Obama Community Organizer extraordinaire should take Gov Palin to the seven states not on my Atlas so she can understand just what a genius he is . Hahahahaha this ex crack head is sooooooooo smart he cannot even remember what religion he belongs to.I’m a christian,I’m a Muslim er I mean christian this organizer is a stumbling fool when not reading off his teleprompter.
Posted by: Frank | September 8, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
I think it’s pretty clear… she’s an idiot.
Posted by: AnthonyAfterwit | September 8, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
geevil (and others)
I watched the Stephanopolis Interview as well, when Obama refered to people making up stories about “his Muslim faith”. Of course, he has stated that he is not Muslim. I’m thinking that if he was Muslim, his wife would be also, and she certainly doesn’t see to be, given her background and manner. So while this is something a conspiracy theorist might be able to work with, it is a little thin for me. Further, suppose he was a Muslim. Would that disqualify him in your book?
Posted by: jb | September 8, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
What Barack Obama needs to do is explain what Karl Rove tactics are. They take your strength and turn it around on you. Example: Obama is “change” now they’re change. Alaska is tops on “ear Marks” now they’re make Obama king of era marks. Obama is a “celebrity” now they have a “Celebrity,” not for long though. Palin will be a flash. Obama needs to theach America what Karl Rove is about. McCain and Palin can lie but Obama and Biden can’t get away with it.
Posted by: Naimiles | September 8, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Good reporting Jake.
Posted by: Think | September 8, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Maybe if she re-phrased that into “it’s GOING to be too expensive for the taxpayer” that would be more accurate? We all know who’s paying for it, it’s either taxes or they print more money and de-valuate the dollar. . . .either way WE PAY!!
Posted by: Dave B | September 8, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
I am sure the lipstick pit-bull Palin, oops…I meant Anna Nicole Smith, did not understand the question posed re Freddie Mac. She was caught off guard without her speechwriter. I guess they need to muzzle her until all the programming by the GOP has completed. I thought conservatives are cautious to avoid waste. Then she really needs to conserve her wasteful, flushable, knee-deep non-issue base remarks.
Posted by: lorrie | September 8, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Sherry 1969 how could you be more Un-American the to be part of a party that wants to well here is their words The AIP wants Alaskans to get an opportunity to vote on whether or not they will remain a state, or become a commonwealth, or split off as an independent nation.
They want to be seperate from the US and her and her husband are part of that . and she keeps claiming and there is a McSame/Falin ad out now that still claims it that she was against the bridge to nowhere well the money for the bridge to nowhere Alaska got it they just didn’t build the bridge they built all the roads going up to where it will begin and as gov. she did a speech to help get this money more on that later and said Washington thinks your nowhere well I don’t and she hired lobby firms to lobby for the money. But she’s an outsider YEAH RIGHT and Rush Limbaugh is a Liberal !!! and it was a Canadian firm she gave the contract to, to build this gas pipeline but their slogan is country first then find an American co. to do the pipeline and saying we need to use American resources the drill here drill now mindset well we used our best resource our brave men and women to fight in Iraq and the Bush admin lets China walk in and get contracts that American firms should have got to develop oil fields in IRAQ fields that will produce and low estimate of 125,000 barrels of oil a week with in 3 yrs not 10 and we the USA will end up guarding those Chinese workers that will be getting that oil and their trucks tankers in the gulf
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 8, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
isn’t it just special that when reporters ask a Democrat candidate for clarification on something they said it is just characterized as “routine follow-up”, but when one tries to get a Republican candidate to do the same it is characterized as a “smear”? Don’t you just love how these folks have redefined how the English language is used? It’s always a heads-we-win/tails-you-lose construct.
Posted by: dk | September 8, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
She’s not up to speed on a lot of this stuff so she’s going to stumble. That’s why McCain will be chewing his fingernails during her upcoming interview with Charlie Gibson. Frankly, she comes across as kind of a local yokel trying to be liked by the guys from the big city. Given time, she may be capable of running a cookie sale.
Posted by: Luther | September 8, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Inasmuch as I’m not a fan of Palin, I’d love to know how many Senators on the banking committee had any idea what Fannie/Freddie was.
If she’s as dumb as a bag of rocks, then we got a ton of boulders in Washington right now.
Posted by: Chicka | September 8, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Boy is ABCNews grasping for straws. First gaffe? Please. Get over yourselves.
Not as big a gaffe as Obama’s “above my paygrade” line about abortion. Or his alleged “I considered joining the military” BS.
Posted by: BlameAmericaLast | September 8, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Forgive her she is from Alaska. I am from Alaska also and the World view is very limited!
Posted by: Vernon | September 8, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
The “baraccuda” flounders yet again. That woman is going to implode while she’s going through crash courses for her big exam in the race for the White House. America, wake up!!!
Posted by: Melissa | September 8, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
dukakis again they don’t pick it up because its a lie and I can get ANY case heard if I know where to and what judges courtroom to file in they are political appointments !!!
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 8, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
If you own a mutual fund or have a 401 k or pension plan or are a goverment worker you probably are backing the freddy/fanny with your investments your tax dollars
Posted by: nh3mike | September 8, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
I find her voice extremely irritating like nails on the blackboard.
Posted by: Nicky | September 8, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Here are the facts: “Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are “government-sponsored enterprises” (GSEs). This means that they are privately owned, but receive support from the Federal Government, and assume some public responsibilities.
The GSEs provide a secondary market in home mortgages, purchasing mortgages from the lenders who originate them. They hold some of these mortgages, and some are “securitized” — sold in the form of securities which the GSEs guarantee.
The two GSEs today are among the largest corporations in the world.
What mortgages do the GSEs purchase?
“Conforming mortgages” as they are called consists of all home mortgages that meet the underwriting requirements of the agencies, and are no larger than the largest loan the GSEs are allowed by law to purchase. In 2003 the maximum was $322,700. It is raised every year in line with increases in home prices. The mortgages the GSEs can purchase account for roughly 80% of the conventional (non-FHA/VA) home loan market.
What kind of support do the GSEs receive from Government?
The major support consists of the credit lines with the US Treasury. This, along with their histories — both were public institutions before they became privately owned — mark them as having a special claim for Government assistance in the event they ever get into financial trouble. As a result, investors consider the notes they issue and the mortgage securities they guarantee almost as good as securities issued by the Federal Government itself.”
In simple terms this means that the tax payers are on the hook for the notes and mortgage securities that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac make. Thus when the note and loans go bad, the tax payers have to cover them. So what Palin said is true, Palin: “The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers. The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.” Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac need to be broken up, made smaller and made completely “private” so that the tax payer is no longer on the hook when bad notes and mortgage loans are made.
Jake Tapper, why not be a little honest about your articles instead of twisting the facts into pretzels in an effort to make Palin look bad. You are just too obvious in your support for Obama.
Posted by: gary | September 8, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
The Dame ain’t got a clue. Geevill, what the heck are you talking about!
Posted by: Mary Gerace | September 8, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Lets focus on the real issues-Palin will be her own worse enemy-I have a friend who had to drop her insurance so she can put gas in her car and more food on the table for her family. This is more important than what Palin is saying. Obama just keep focused on the issues, don’t let them derail you. People like “others” to ride their emotional elevator-don’t do it. It is not worth it-Time is the essence and it will reveal the truth. Always has and always will-
GO OBAMA
Posted by: Sophia Beck | September 8, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Palin is does not have the education or knowledge to be VP or President.
If by some fluke McCain and Palin end up in the White House – I am moving out of the country. Everytime I see them and hear them lie it turns my stomach.
The world is really laughing at us now!
Posted by: Leah | September 8, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
None of you seem to understand economics. As I worked in a similar industry – student loans – I know what goes on behind closed doors. People were hugely used in that business until the government finally stepped in approx a year ago. The people get money on the front, back and in between and squeeze the consumer out..Jake., you just keep grabbing at staws…you obviously do not understand economics…
Posted by: rb | September 8, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
“What do you think? You buy that explanation?
- jpt”
No.
She was offering a shallow bromide to the religious-right acolytes in Colorado Springs, and they ate it up. Does she know better hereelf? That’s doubtful.
Posted by: John | September 8, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
so gary what you are saying so long windedly is they are private with credit lines from the gov. mainly because being that big they need gov funding . but they ARE “private”
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 8, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Palin has a degree in journalism and has been a news sportscaster on TV. She knows how to read a tele-prompter and she is camera ready but NOT ready to be in Washington, D.C.
Palin is a republican PUPPET!
Posted by: Leah | September 8, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Gaffe? I don’t think so. The taxpayers are always the ultimate losers in these deals.
I don’t see a gaffe. But, I know the MSM are hoping.
I just wish ABC had not received the first interview with Sarah, after this biased article you don’t deserve it.
Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | September 8, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Appears during Gov. Palins weekend crash course, she may have been speaking about what her advisers knew at that time. You really can’t blame her, as an accomplished politician, she only knows whats shes been advised.
Her advisers are not keeping up with current events, or they did not have time to catch her up on the latest. Hence, the reply from the campaign officials that make little or no sense.
Politicians generally aren’t the smartest bunch, thats why they have advisers, consultants, lobbyist to think for them.
Posted by: tuomug | September 8, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Palin understands just fine. Maybe Jake and some of the commenters need to study up. Fannie & Freddie are only pseudo-private and backed by the US government, i.e., taxpayers. That makes her 1 for 1. McCain probably supports the buyout, but Palin is right…the taxpayers are going to get soaked! That makes her 2 for 2.
Posted by: study up | September 8, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Yes she meant that the federal bailouts are costing the taxpayers too much.
Posted by: CM | September 8, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
What is so laughable, Chatty Kathy Palin and McShame think that just because they say something, it must be TRUE. They are desparate and will say anything, no matter how big the lie.
“The plane sold for a profit on eBay.” Wrong. Palin pushed for the Bridge to Nowhere, then backed out, but still kept the $26 million in earmarks.
Americans can see thru this BS.
Posted by: Barbie | September 8, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
“The people get money on the front, back and in between and squeeze the consumer out.”
And how would that make them “too expensive to the taxpayers.”
We can all see who’s really grasping at straws.
Posted by: John | September 8, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Being a life long Republican I’m going to vote for Obama this time. Palin is just nice but doesn’t have the depth to be a VP for this country.
Posted by: nchien | September 8, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Palin was not confused at all. The point in her remarks, hours, after the collapse and bailout were announced to the media, were to turn the history of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac upside down. Her scriptwriters wanted her to portray the socialization of the two lending institutions, with billions in taxpayers losses resulting, as a McCain “reform” in which they were being downsized and moved in a privatizing direction. I saw the speech, live. If you see it in context you will see this was the goal.
Posted by: sponson | September 8, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
What do you expect? This is a woman who didn’t have a passport until 2007. Is there any wonder the McCainBush team is keeping her away from those pesky media types? No questions for Sarah … less likely to have gaffes like this trickle out. Bottom line, it’s unfair to expect ANYbody to get up to speed this fast — the problem isn’t her, it’s John McCain’s poor judgment in foisting this affirmative action choice on us.
Posted by: straight talk my a** | September 8, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Biden was picked as VP because he assured Obama, the Russians didn’t invade Georgia, the state, but a country along the border of Russia. Obama, then assured the residents of Alabama, that they were safe.
Time to send “the one” back to Chicago, to his house that Resko helped him buy.
Posted by: Art in FL. | September 8, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Yesterday, McCain reiterated Sarah Palin’s claim that she sold an Alaska How about McCain’s gaffe that Palin sold an Alaska state jet on eBay “for a profit!”
Palin listed the jet on eBay, but it never sold there. It was eventually turned over to an aircraft broker who sold it for $2.1 million.
Considering that the state paid $2.7 million for the jet in 2005, that’s a loss of $600,000 (not including the broker’s commission!)
Maybe the way the Bush tax cuts work, you can sell your private jet for a huge loss and still come out ahead?
Posted by: sawrad | September 8, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
What she said is correct, they are too big and were backed by govt and started giving loans that should not be given.
They need to made smaller and privatized and no bailout here after.
Posted by: Prabodh Joshi | September 8, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
but Palin is right…the taxpayers are going to get soaked! That makes her 2 for 2.Posted by: jake needs to study up | Sep 8, 2008 6:19:03 PM
That isn’t what she said.
“The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers. The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help>”
If you read that she sounds as if she is saying the taxpayers are paying too much already. How can that be if the bailout was just announced over the weekend? And I doubt that last part is true either.
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
from the number of responses, you must consider “mission accomplished”. the line between reporter/journalist and entertainer are becoming finer as your competion hones in on you.
Posted by: Paul | September 8, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Gary, I read your post and it cleared up a lot of misinformation that Jake Tapper and the Obama supporters are trying to spread about Palin.
Any organization where:
“investors consider the notes they issue and the mortgage securities they guarantee almost as good as securities issued by the Federal Government itself.”
cannot be called wholly “private” as JakeTapper said.
Poor reporting, but not surprising from a reporter who is so obviously in the tank for Obama.
Posted by: mary | September 8, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
How about McCain’s gaffe that Palin sold an Alaska state jet on eBay “for a profit!”?
Palin listed the jet on eBay, but it never sold there. It was eventually turned over to an aircraft broker who sold it for $2.1 million.
Considering that the state paid $2.7 million for the jet in 2005, that’s a loss of $600,000 (not including the broker’s commission!)
Maybe the way the Bush tax cuts work, you can sell your private jet for a huge loss and still come out ahead?
Posted by: sawrad | September 8, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
She was reading a speech written by the McCain team. She clearly didn’t know better, but the bigger question is does McCain understand Freddie & Fannie.
Posted by: CJ | September 8, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Remember back in elementary school how there was always that one kid who didn’t read the book and would start making stuff up halfway through his presentation because he just assumed that no one else had read the book? This is pretty much the same thing.
Posted by: Los | September 8, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
That’s the first, more comming in the mail. Just wait until the Charlie Gibson interview. He’ll throw her some softballs and she will still miss. Just give it time. I do give her credit however, she is trying her best.
Posted by: GRH | September 8, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
She is actually correct, I work with Fannie and Freddie. They are to big, they give loans to those who do not deserve to own a home. They cut corners and actually up until last week were fudging their numbers to make themseleves look better. They were greedy and wanted to make as much as possible. Now taxpayers have to pay to bail them out. Although the government really has no other choice. If they didnt the market would surely crash.
Posted by: Gomac | September 8, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Hey, you’re going to ding her for that? Why don’t you ask Obama what he meant when he said 10,000 people died in an Arkansas tornado, or when he said he’d campaigned in 57 states, or when he referred to “my muslim faith”, or when he had to put out a series of responses to the crisis in Georgia because the first one (two and three) were incorrect.
Posted by: Heather | September 8, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Jake Tapper is just trying to twist what was said in her speech. The Dems are obviously desperate that McCain/Palin are now way ahead in the latest polls.
Posted by: Beanie | September 8, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
What was your headline – 1st Gaffe? Palin’s Fannie and Freddie Fudge. I am sick of the way you reporters are so quick to pounce on this woman.
She is right. In the end, it is our tax dollars that are going to pay for these two bailouts and in that sense, they have become too expensive. The bailout amount is HUGE and look what the CEOs are being allowed to walk away with in their pockets!
So, perhaps there isn’t any 1st Gaffe to report other than your own. I am sure she completely understands Fannie and Freddie. But, you are so eager to find fault with this woman.
I have heard there is a pandora’s box sitting waiting to be opened about Obama’s white brother – Is it any wonder he said family is off limits? Perhaps you can go spend some time researching that issue and get back to us on it.
I just don’t get it. What has Obama done to earn this Presidency?
And, you are right, geevill, Obama made an Freudian Slip in one interview he had when HE said something about his Muslim Faith, oops, Christian Faith. Really makes you wonder what he is hiding doesn’t it?
Posted by: Nikki | September 8, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
“You would like to think that someone who is going to be vice president and conceivable president would know what Fannie and Freddie do,” said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. “These are huge institutions and they are absolutely central to our country’s mortgage debt. To not have a clue what they do doesn’t speak well for her, I’d say.”
Posted by: sawrad | September 8, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Oh, Sarah! You’re the new Dan Quayle.
Posted by: dattexas | September 8, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Gov. Palin received a degree in communication and a minor in politics. She earned a scholarship to college. Obama was affirmative action, as he couldn’t pass the entry exam. My vote goes to McCain/Palin. No affirmative action president for our great country !!!
Posted by: Angie in Jacksonville | September 8, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
sawrad, about the jet, Palin did not buy the jet in the first place and one of her campaign promises was to cut government spending, so in my view, by selling the jet she got some of the tax payers money back and saved on the maintenance costs.
By the way, Palin did put the jet on ebay and then sold it elsewhere. What is the big deal with this? I do not get it. If all you guys have are where Palin sold the jet and the bogus story Tapper is trying to sell about Fannie and Fredie, you don’t have much.
And then there is your hero Obama: Obama whose good buddy, Ayers wants to blow up America, whose church of twenty years taught the hate whitey creed of black liberation theology, whose good old buddy Rezco, a convicted felon, helped buy him a home that Obama said was a “bone headed” decision, who has less experience under his belt than Palin, and many more skeletons in the closet that are starting to come to light. ie. whose pocket the public money from the failed Annenberg Challenge went into. etc etc etc
Posted by: jerry | September 8, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
TAXPAYERS?
Our children and grandchildren maybe but I’m thinking the bailout is being paid for by funny-money. Paying for it using taxes would require RAISING TAXES. If you trace it back, you will probably find that the current crisis is attributable to deregulation and greed.
Posted by: jb | September 8, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Come on- she doesn’t have clue.
I’d like to see her in a geo-quiz with Biden.
First, our allies and our war zones-
Second, some hard ones like China and India.
Third, some real stumpers from the lower 48 like New York and California.
When they said Fannie Mae I’m surprised she didn’t accuse them of making a sexist comment.
Posted by: John Silvertooth | September 8, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
No I don’t buy it. That is called a GAFFE.
Posted by: Carole R Williams | September 8, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Mary wrote: Poor reporting, but not surprising from a reporter who is so obviously in the tank for Obama.
Yeah… what is up with that?? Every article that is posted on ABC by Jake Tapper has been very pro- Obama and overly whiney about McCain. It is getting very annoying. It is getting to the point that when I see that he is the one writing the piece, I know it will be so distorted, it probably isn’t even worth a read.
Posted by: Mikel | September 8, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I am a democrat, and have been for most of my life. But, I am becoming concerned that grasping for straws to find something to stick it to this woman is hurting us. Any rational person can see that her comments were consistant with the offical statement put out by the McCain people. Come on folks, lets try to find some real areas of disagreement and debate those rather than reaching far outside the envelope. People are not stupid. They can see through this. Like the other day when a story covering “facts” having to do with her getting rid of her company car stated that actually she did, but while driving her Surban to work she had a wreck….so what! When the average person sees this, their reaction is that the media is actually willing to go to any lengths to diss this lady, and decide to disregard everything that is said. It is like the little boy who cried wolf. We need to stop looking like fools by crying wolf and do some professional reporting. If we don’t we will loose the election….go Obama!
Posted by: tom | September 8, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
If she had just said something clever like “that would be above my paygrade” everything would have been fine. . . . . When will she learn??
Posted by: Dave B | September 8, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Palin is uneducated in this area. Even I know..the taxpayers will NOW have to pay for this mess…caused by deregulation..thanks to McCain’s old buddy and former economic advisor , Phil Gramm..(remember he had to be booted from the campaign after his “nation of whiners” comments?)
She scares the heck right out of me!
Posted by: dutch163 | September 8, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I think it’s pretty clear that she has no idea what Fannie Mac and Freddie Mac do, or even more scary, what the purpose of the bailout is.
Posted by: Suzanne | September 8, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Gov. Sarah is correct. The taxpayer will be footing the bill, possibly 200 billion. For the Obama supporters that’s an 11 with nine zeros.
Posted by: abe | September 8, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
She was referring to the bailout, the probability of which happening and the impact to the taxpayers has been in the news for weeks and weeks now. It wasn’t a gaffe. It’s official as of today. Government conservancy of the GSE’s. Going to cost the taxpayers plenty.
Did you by chance read the article in the Journal highlighting that OBAMA took over $105,000 from the FRE/FNM lobbyists??? He’s in the #3 spot on a list of 25 top receivers in Congress.
McCain on the otherhand has long called for more oversight of FRE/FNM, and took not a nickel from their lobbyists.
Obama is a liar. He’s in the special interests pocket big time. Just like Exelor. Look that one up people.
On the luxury jet…you’re missing the larger point. She did put it up for sale on Ebay. And ultimately sold it through another venue. The point is she didn’t take the Perk. And the Alaska people are currently not paying for the hangar to house it, the fuel to fly it, the pilot salary to fly it, maintenance, insurance, etc.
Posted by: NJVoter | September 8, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
She’s earned her way to VP!!! She put in her dues. She’s not a puppet. She’s not being shielded. I’m sure she’s been studying the issues in depth over the last few years as a small town mayor / barely a govenor. I am from a small Wisconsin town, and I would NEVER vote for one of our mayors to be president. This is pathetic and scary. Choose someone with barely a past and program them to be a teleprompter hero. Good luck USA!
Posted by: Matt | September 8, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
On the luxury jet…you’re missing the larger point. She did put it up for sale on Ebay. And ultimately sold it through another venue. The point is she didn’t take the Perk. And the Alaska people are currently not paying for the hangar to house it, the fuel to fly it, the pilot salary to fly it, maintenance, insurance, etc.
Posted by: NJVoter | Sep 8, 2008 6:44:43 PM
Ohhhh geeez she’s such a maverick!
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Gomac – Nothing you said had anything to do with the fact that Ms. Palin does not understand Freddie and Fanny. The economy is the most important issue – McCain should’ve chosen a running mate who understands it. Can’t wait until she tries to discuss Iraq.
Posted by: Charlotte | September 8, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
In a word, YES. You guys in the press are always splitting hairs on semantics and getting no where with anyone who is upfront and uncluttered in their thinking.
Posted by: Wild | September 8, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Obviously she has absolutely no idea what she’s talking about. She didn’t say “Fannie Mae has gotten so expensive we can’t afford to let them lose, we have to bail them out”. Obviously that doesn’t really make sense either though it makes more sense then her original comment. The woman is as stupid as a moose’s head, years after its been stuffed. She has no business being in the national political scene.
Posted by: Pablo Pena | September 8, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
She was simply referring to Greenspan’s comments about making them smaller. Geesh give her a break.
Posted by: Joyce | September 8, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
what happened is that the republican party did not get a chance to educate her about the issues regarding the bailout. That is why she is still repeating the same speech every where she goes. If I hear this bridge to nowhere or the ebay stories one more time, I am gone to scream. Obama/Biden 08.
Posted by: yoye777 | September 8, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
I knew she was a dumb blonde!!
Posted by: mary | September 8, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Aside from the fact that Sarah is right, Fannie and Freddie have become too expensive for my tax-dollars to bail them out, if this is a gaffe is it anywhere near as problematic as not knowing the U.S. has only 50 states or that Russia has veto power on the U.N. Security Council?
Posted by: Tim Daniels | September 8, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Wow – this just shows the partisans are not thinking straight.
Too big or equivalent to out economy.
Add another Mac or go back to the rules before fannie and freddie were founded?
Quit crying like children, think about the issue.
So, she may or may not have known what she was speaking about, however no party has the corner on accuracy. No party is more knowledgeable than the other. You could reverse a majority of the ideals each party claims to stand for and as long as its your team, the lemmings or partisans will follow right along.
Posted by: tuomug | September 8, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
we just had a cowboy in the white house and he was an all time embarrassment why replace a cowbay with a “Maverick”. I would prefer someone with a brain.
Posted by: alpo67 | September 8, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Pablo Pena, You are sure twisting your self into knots in an effort to make Palin look bad. Not working dude.
Posted by: nate | September 8, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Sarah Palin will make more mistakes when she has to encounter the press one and one. It is best not to expose her too much. Time is short and if she slips she will not have time to recover.
Posted by: Lorenzo | September 8, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
She has no idea what she is talking about. Not a clue. Just spewing fall-back GOP talking points.
Posted by: Jeremy | September 8, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
how could anyone as uneducated as palin understand the financial situation——–wow mc—d —-average and uneducated palin—–what a pair the queen of pork and flip flop mccain very interesting.
Posted by: rodney | September 8, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Obviously she has absolutely no idea what she’s talking about.
This is the first time she made a comment without a speech writer feeding her lines or John McCain telling herr what to say. Scary that this woman could be a heart beat from the Presidency.
Posted by: Becky | September 8, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
The (almost) beauty queen, Sarah Palin, is the equivalent of Reese Witherspoon’s character in “Legally Blonde” taking Washington by storm! It’s comical! I can’t wait to see her perform before the media and in debates! She’s a hack! Kick her to the curb! Next!!!
Posted by: Danny | September 8, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Tom, I agree with you. Attacking Gov. Palin on basic competence isn’t going to resonate. She’s too good as a debater, and has demonstrated a command of the local and municipal issues she’s had to deal with as a small-town and small-state politician. Granted that’s not the same caliber as holding your own on the international stage, but she clearly isn’t Dan Quayle in a skirt.
More fruitful will be pointing out just how far to the right she is. Her extreme views on social and environmental issues are in the mainstream for Alaska, but not for the country as a whole. My aunt fits Gov. Palin’s demographic profile, and was very excited about her the first week after she was announced, but has now come down to earth as she has learned about the Governor’s views on abortion (no choice for you if you were impregnated by a rapist or your abusive brother), science (teaching creationism in geology class) and the environment (well to the right even of the Bush administration, suing them for listing polar bears as a threatened species).
Posted by: Pacific moderate | September 8, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Being that she went to six colleges in six years she should be very smart?
Obama 08
Posted by: DKR | September 8, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
THE BAILOUT IS HYPER-EXPENSIVE
THE BANKRUPTCIES ARE EXPENSIVE
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT..?
THIS LADY, PALIN, IS TEFLON
IT WONT STICK
TRY SOMETHING ELSE..PLEASE.
TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR OBAMA…
HILLARY CANTT SAVE HIM NOW. WE ARE NOT LISTENING TO HILLARY..
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | September 8, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
To all you Obama supporters on this post, including Jack Tapper, who are trying to make Palin look stupid, IT’S NOT WORKING!!! In fact you are so ignorant about Fannie and Freddie you are the ones that are stupid , not to mention just plain mean.
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: jerry | September 8, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Jerry wrote, “Gov. Palin received a degree in communication and a minor in politics. She earned a scholarship to college. Obama was affirmative action, as he couldn’t pass the entry exam. My vote goes to McCain/Palin. No affirmative action president for our great country !!!”
Obama declined to state his ethnicity on his application to Harvard. He got in on his own merits to one of the most demanding schools in the country. Sarah switched 6 times in 6 years to achieve a less demanding degree from a less demanding university. Hmmm…
Posted by: jbkmcd | September 8, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Angie in Jacksonville -
What exactly do you mean that Obama
“was affirmative action, as he couldn’t pass the entry exam.” Please explain.
Are you saying that Obama couldn’t get into Harvard except from affirmative action? Please provide facts for this.
Frankly, I am very frightened that someone with only a bachelors in journalism could potentially become president of our country. I have a degree in Spanish and have traveled a lot so does this mean I’m qualified to be Secretary of State?
She is not prepared and was a cynical, last-minute, rash choice by McCain.
Posted by: Charlotte | September 8, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Fannie, Freddie has been out of control for a very long time. A federal take-over is the only way for the economy not to crash. This is serious stuff. What the next v.p. said was ok. You have no idea how bad the taxpayers are going to get slammed on this. Hang on for dear life! Plus giving a democratic controled congress a free pass will do unbelievible harm to home owners. You darn well better hope that a republican gets into office. Obama and his group want to “punish” homeowners. He also wants to tax retirees that just want to sell a primary residence and realize enough funds to help them retire. He also wants to tax capital gains higher. The economy is is the toilet as it is. You slow down free enterprise much more and jobs are going to go bye-bye. If you all want cost of living increases and other things like healthcare you better wake up and smell the flowers when it comes to this election. Or maybe you just want to go to the backdoor of the White House and get some free cheese. Or maybe if your lucky, Obama will allow you to take a picture of him and his crown. This is a land of idiots!
Posted by: James F | September 8, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
There is a difference between ‘mis-speaking’ and not understanding what you are talking about. Everybody mis-speaks be it grammatically and so forth but some people know that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are private entities. You idiots stop comparing a ‘slip of the tongue’ where obviously the question was not whether Barack Obama knew the difference b/w Muslim and Christian faiths( the context proves that he did) which is definitly not the case in Sarah Palin’s situation where the question is whether she knew what she was talking about.This is like comparing the right answer (with grammatical errors and right context) with the wrong answer(with perfect grammar and wrong context)to a question. It is easy for you idiots to equate every gaffe because you do not know any better. My proposal is better public schools for all. This voucher thing will not work. Some of the stuff on the web cries for help – logical/critical thinking.
Harvard Grad (We who know!!!)
Posted by: hbs | September 8, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
She is a Big Idiot, she didnt know what she was talking about, she is a Phony!
Posted by: Matt.G | September 8, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
It is obvious Palin does not understand. McCain has been keeping her under wraps for a reason. This is her first comment not written for her by McCain’s writers.
Posted by: Linn | September 8, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Peggy Hill doesn’t know what she is taking about does she? Do you get the feeling that she just inserted “Freddie Mac and Fanny May” into her talking points?
What a joke. Enjoy your few days of being up in the polls. McCain is already brain dead…so is Peggy.
Posted by: billy smith | September 8, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Once again John Tapper your bias is showing! The Taxpayers ARE going to be hit with BILLIONS of DOLLARS in proping up Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, so there is NO error in her statement. You continue to look for mistakes and they are NOT there. Funny, there is no statement here about Barack’s mistake of refering to him as a Muslim. While that makes no difference to most, it does show the continued MEDIA BIAS.
Posted by: Bob | September 8, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Of course she doesn’t know what she is talking about. The woman is not bright. But since that doesn’t matter to republicans – we’ve had Bush for 8 years & McCain was last in his class, this will not bother them one bit. Nor will any other mistake she makes (and she WILL make many) because she touts the party line.
Posted by: allie | September 8, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
nate: I think it’s working very, very well. Paline is make herself look bad without anyone’s help.
Posted by: dlboggan | September 8, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Republicans should be embarassed by Palin’s ignorance. That is what you get when you want an “outsider”. It’s like calling for a plumber to perform heart surgery on you.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Just curious as to which of the five colleges Palin attended did she get a scholarship to?
Posted by: cwest | September 8, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Hopefully McCain will let her actually speak to the press on her own. We need to understand what she really knows and if she is really ready for Washington.
If this is an indication…she is not ready.
Posted by: Becky | September 8, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
leave palin alone she’s going to clean up washington like alaska. her kids fannie and freddie are off limits.
Posted by: phil | September 8, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Pacific moderate, I do not agree with you. Attacking Palin on just how “far right” she is will not work. For one thing, Obama’s connections to the loony far left including Ayers, Wright and Rezco make Palin look like a moderate in comparison. Also, Abortion is pretty much a phony issue. Even if Roe vs. Wade is over turned it would just go back to the States and any one with common sense knows that the only State that may place any serious restrictions on abortion is Utah. As to environmental issues, a lot of people in the US have not bought into global warming dooms day scenario many on the far left are promoting. Plus their pocket book, the gas price at the tank, will trump global warming any day. Another thing, what exactly is mainstream? The circles you run in may think of Palin as “far right” while middle America may think Palin’s view fall pretty much in line with theirs.
The real issue is, that the left always takes things to far and are so over the top on their efforts to demonize their opponents. The best way to counter Palin, would be if Clinton had been nominated instead of Obama. Than we might of had a chance.
Posted by: PUMA | September 8, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Considering that FM/FM have a stake in 51% of all mortgages in the US and were on the brink of collapse, a VP candidate had better know exactly what they are talking about. Scary.
Perhaps it is God’s plan…
Posted by: Jeremy | September 8, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
I’m perplexed by many of the comments on this blog.
FNMA and FMAC, commonly known as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, were set up as largely private entities, with an unspecified vague promise of government backing. They got hijacked by reckless management and a Republican unwillingness to say “no” to Wall Street. Financiers playing with shareholders’ money gambled and lost. Unfortunately that put mortgage security at risk for the nation.
That’s why the taxpayer had to finally step in.
Palin’s comments clearly indicate she thought the two agencies were some kind of government office, as in “a bureaucracy that’s gotten too big.” I don’t know where to start with the level of confusion her comment portrays.
The only literal sense one can make of it is that FNMA and FMAC took on way too many mortgages through reckless policies encouraged by the Bush administration. I don’t know where McCain voted on all that, but I’d bet anti-regulation and pro-Wall Street.
What we get, of course, is that now both entities really ARE government wards–we taxpayers just ante’d up $10 – $20 billion to rescue them.
Bush-McCain–privatize profits, outsource losses–to the taxpayers.
Palin says–huh?
She’s smart, and fast on her feet–just not very well educated. No one can do a cram course in foreign policy, economics, regulatory practice; even McCain readily admits he doesn’t understand economics. So why should we be surprised Palin makes a boo-boo? It’s tough stuff. No wonder they’re keeping her under wraps.
Posted by: Charles H. Green | September 8, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Hey, Tim Daniels:
If you’re so smart, could you have graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School and been president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review? I didn’t think so.
McCain finished very near the bottom of his graduating class at the U.S. Naval Academy–which he probably got into using his family’s naval connections. As for Palin, it took her six years attending several colleges to finally get a bachelor’s degree. Based on her weird and reprehensible speaking style and abilities, she likely fared little better than McCain in college performance.
So, let’s not talk about dumb.
Posted by: Muaiao | September 8, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Tyrone: You must have missed my earlier entry …
Come on. Anyone who watched the “grilling” saw that Barack Obama misspoke during a series of questions and responses involving the words Muslim and Christian; he immediately corrected himself. On the other hand, Sarah Palin, demonstrated a fundamental lack of understanding about an important issue. There’s a huge difference!
Posted by: sawrad | September 8, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Unfortunately the fickle people flocking to Palin’s fresh face have failed to recognize her lack of societal intelligence. These issues have nothing to do with Palin’s gender. We should all tread very carefully with any candidate we choose to endorse. Sometimes intelligence is easily dismissed as eloquence.
I do believe the passion shown by women and minorities in the electorate proves this nation is long overdue for a leap forward. Sexism and racism has no place in society, though it still exists. While most intelligent people long for positive changes…let’s do our own fact-finding to make the right choice. After all Sarah Palin is not the Presidential candidate. Voting for a VP instead of the Presidential candidate would be a mistake.
Either way, we should not fear change–At this point, “experience” is not getting this country anywhere. In this case a fresh-faced VP does not signify change, rather a decoy for change.
Posted by: Nathan | September 8, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
I think Palin is bright… she is sly.. however the Republican machine has her under their thumb right now so it will be more of the s o bush s however she seems more capable of reading a teleprompter.. of course they teach you that in the pageantry circuit!!
Posted by: cwest | September 8, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
She, like McCain, is not very bright. She took 6 years and 6 colleges to get a degree. She has done well politically in Alaska because she is photogenic, speaks passionately (even when she has no clue as to what she is saying), and most importantly …… most people vote with their emotions, not their brains.
The latter is demonstrated by how she has enamored so many GOP voters whose primary praise is that “She is a breath of fresh air”. I.e., the less capable she is, the more they like her.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
sexism alert – failure to get the whole story alert! …here we go again, while Obama gets an easy pass from the media, the woman gets grilled…Obama stated he was inclined to support intervention, while his Foreign Policy Advisor is a lobbyist for Freddie Mac and big oil. The DNC candidate’s answer is weak and insufficient as a presidential candidate AND his advisor was a Freddie Mac lobbyist. Palin’s correct that they are too big, especially since they can afford to hire lobbyists. She is correct again on the financial exposure is too big to put onto the taxpayers.
Posted by: geeking | September 8, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Really first gaffe?
The lie about the bridge to nowhere and the lie about the plane selling on ebay wasn’t a gaffe?
Posted by: AlwaysHungry | September 8, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Jerry, the only ignorant ones about Fanny and Freddy here are those that are trying to defend Paline’s absolute un-informed answer to the question. And TJ, Clinton has stated anything about Paline’s gaff. She does not have to. The teflon will peel off the more the Palin speaks. She REALLY does not have the knowledge to do the job. REALLY DOES NOT.
Posted by: dlboggan | September 8, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
I don’t think anyone is being bias. when speaking to the public it is very important to make sure you that you know what you are talking about and can back it up with facts. Mis-speaking or not knowing what you’re talking about only causes confustion, misunderstandings, simply makes you look bad. The question was about Palin’s statement not about Obama.
Posted by: Deb | September 8, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Joyce:
“She was simply referring to Greenspan’s comments about making them smaller. Geesh give her a break”
———————–
Hardly. The point of the article is that she has no clue that these organizations are private entities, not government agencies.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
I’m voting….
For OMama instead of OBama!!!!
Posted by: kay | September 8, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Now I understand even more why McCain wasn’t letting her do interviews. Better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you’re a fool then opening it and proving it.
Posted by: AttitudeOfGratitude | September 8, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
the less capable she is, the more they like her.
Posted by: DennisNC | Sep 8, 2008 7:17:17 PM
I thought you were talking about GWB there for a minute..lol
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
geeking, definitely a sexism alert. Do whatever we can to divert attention from her inadequecies.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Geeking: Palin only recently entered the political arena and needs scrutiny and questions. Obama and Biden have both been in the arena for up to two years now and has been under extremely intense scrutiny by both Republicans and fellow Democrats. Believe me, it’s not over yet. Get ready for the fur to fly in both directions. No one is going to be left out of our political process, no matter who you think they are or what you think they deserve. Crying sexism is the same as saying “don’t hurt me”. A last resort for those who have nothing else to protect those that make fools out of themselves.
Posted by: dlboggan | September 8, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Hardly. The point of the article is that she has no clue that these organizations are private entities, not government agencies.
Posted by: DennisNC | Sep 8, 2008 7:22:09 PM
It’s obvious that half the readers on here don’t get that. So much for our education system teaching reading comprehension.
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Come on you mean people, give the lady a break… people in Alaska don’t know what’s happening here in the United States.
Posted by: Smarty Pants | September 8, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Crying sexism is the same as saying “don’t hurt me”. A last resort for those who have nothing else to protect those that make fools out of themselves.
Posted by: dlboggan | Sep 8, 2008 7:26:24 PM
This coming from a woman who called Hillary a “whiner”.
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
J,
It could have been. A significant portion of the populace seems to want a POTUS and VP that are not too smart. They must like to say “They are just like us. Average, and not too smart.”
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
IT WILL SHOW UP IN THE DEBATE
The debate will handle Palin for sure. Her education is being hottly questioned.
We can hope it will be like the famous Linclon-Douglas debates:
Stephen A. Douglas — Canandaigua Academy, “Graduate of Distinction”
Abraham Lincoln — (no formal edcucation)
Next?
Posted by: Citizen_Alerted | September 8, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
J,
It could have been. A significant portion of the populace seems to want a POTUS and VP that are not too smart. They must like to say “They are just like us. Average, and not too smart.”
Posted by: DennisNC | Sep 8, 2008 7:30:06 PM
I don’t know about anyone else. But I would like somebody a bit smarter than the average Joe or Josephine to be in charge of this country. It’s obvious from some of the posts on here how far the dumbing of America has gone.
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Just be thankful she didn’t threaten to sell them on Ebay. Karl Rove need to keep a better eye on her, Sarah’s starting to stray from the teleprompter. Not good.
Posted by: Shannon | September 8, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
I work in this industry and it is costly to tax payers, obviously people don’t understand the situation and the issues and Palin’s objective was not a class on the impact to tax payers. She is not the one that doesn’t have a clue, but it appears there are a lot of people who don’t understand how big this is and the impact it will have to taxpayers. People the government doesn’t make money, it gets it from taxes. It needs billions of our dollars (tax dollars) to bail these folks out. This should have never happened. They need to do more than bail it out, we need to make sure it functions so this doesn’t happen again. This is a really bad thing and yes, we need to do more than bail them out, we need to fix the problem so we taxpayers won’t have to keep paying for these bad loans. It does need to be smaller. It is too big and can you imagine what would happen to the economy if we taxpayers didn’t bail them out.
Posted by: Republic | September 8, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Palin needs to answer the media’s (our) questions and stop hiding behind speech writers. We have a mere two months to get to know her, but she’s hiding behind McCain. All of these sexism and “liberal” media bias claims are ridiculous. She’s the one that said Hillary was whining about the press picking on her and now she’s not even giving people the opportunity to ask her questions. She’s runnning for VP. We have the right to question and ask anything of her that we want. That’s the point. We need to asses who she is, what she stands for, how informed she is on issues, and how well she can think on her feet. If she can’t do these basic things she has no busisness running in the first place.
Posted by: nola | September 8, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Let’s face it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are costing the taxpayers plenty. That is a fact. We didn’t learn anything from the Savings and Loan debacle. It is high time we all agreed that when a business (say, mortgage finance) runs amok becausse of greed and fraud, then let it fail.
I can’t parse what Sarah Palin said and make it into anything stupid, because it appears to me that she is completely correct. It is time to say NEVER AGAIN. No more federal bailouts of anybody at any time.
Posted by: Katherine Harms | September 8, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Republic: Let’s see now. Whom owned and managed Fanny and Freddy. The basic answer that educated and informed people know is that they were owned by Corporations, not Government. These corporations “lobbied” to have the rules loosened to provide the types of loans that these corporations chose to use with the customer. These types of Corporations that try to create profits at all costs by any means are what is getting this country into such dire financial trouble. This has always been the Republican strategy. No government oversight to do anything they wish. Now, thanks to Republican and Corporatist policies we are paying through the nose for not just our mortgages but now with our taxes. The very taxes that the Republicans are fighting against. Bailing their back ends out. Hypocrisy and debt dumping at its best. So, what is happening to those that supported these policies changes and management practices? I want to know….. Do you think McCain and Palin will do the right thing. I don’t think so as they obviously “do not get it”.
Posted by: dlboggan | September 8, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Posted by: J | Sep 8, 2008 7:26:54 PM
True, bit of sidetracking here.
“Too expensive to the taxpayers?”
So — according to this aide, speaking on background — Palin meant they are CURRENTLY too expensive, though presumably she supports the Bush administration’s bailout.
correct me if I am wrong .. Please..isn’t bailing them out.. the thing that will cost the taxpayers?
Posted by: cwest | September 8, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Obama is one to talk Fannie & Freddie
gave lots of money to him for his campaign. As a matter of fact out of all the candidates he took more.
Posted by: santo | September 8, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
People are really spinning this. Obviously, she didn’t know what she was talking about.
Posted by: Michelle | September 8, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
What Jake Tapper is not telling you and the much bigger story as the fact that Ginnie and Freddie gave money to ACORN, the radical left organization that Obama is associated with. What about it Jake? Going to cover that story? Hmmm
Posted by: April | September 8, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Posted by: nola | Sep 8, 2008 7:37:11 PM
here here.. she is hiding behind a lot of folks, including past and present Rep. admininstration and somewhere in the mix stands Rove.
Posted by: cwest | September 8, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
The question here is wheither America want a totally novice lady as head of this country just because she is a woman. what message deos it send to yound generation? dont study, go ahead and be a miss, have a baby at 12, bring it in front of the camera and America will be sympathic and elect you president.
That is a good idea if America was the only country on the earth. Guest what, in few years many countries will take you over and you will stay there with your cowboy hat.
Posted by: leche | September 8, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Puma:
Every attack leveled against Obama can also be leveled against Sarah Palin. Connections to loony organizations? How about her – and especially her husband’s – ties to an Alaskan separatist party? They want AK to leave America, not put it first.
Hate-filled preachers? How about the one she sat in church and listened to as he delivered strong anti-Jewish rhetoric.
Seems to me that Palin supporters are like those people derisively called “Obamabots.” One speech (that she didn’t even write) and you’re ready to follow someone without even thinking.
Her views are extreme to me but I worry most about the fact that, despite a few credentials, she is not ready to step into the presidency in an emergency situation.
Posted by: Charlotte | September 8, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
I just love the way Obama naysayers.. always back up their comments with quotes or urls that are someone else’s quotes about someone else’s opinions… who surprise.. are Obama opponents..
Posted by: cwest | September 8, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Arbie:
“Mortgage Rates Will Likely Decline, Taxpayers’ Bill to Soar” refers to AFTER the bailout.
Palin was referring to BEFORE the bailout.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Sarah Palin…to little…to far…too fast…
Posted by: chetking | September 8, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Her lack of knowledge and experience is showing it’s ugly head. Wait until she has to answer questions instead of giving canned speeches. They can’t hide her forever.
Posted by: T | September 8, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Sam get this, freddie and fannie are not government entities, they are government created, not government run. That is why they spent 170 million on lobbyists.(something mayor palin knows something about) Sarah said a boo boo because her tutors didn’t cover this in her economic program at the lieberman school of economics
Posted by: economic warrior | September 8, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Most Americans have better things to do than figure out how Fannie and Freddie work, but the public has a right to expect that Governors and Vice Presidents know exactly what they do and why. At least on Wall Street, Palin’s remark is a major gaffe. It says that Palin does not have a clue about what Fannie and Freddie do or how important they are to the economy. She apparently thinks they’re just big government-funded banks that lend to poor people. If that is her view, she is way, way out of touch with the housing sector of the U.S. economy
Posted by: harrisco | September 8, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
I worked for Freddie Mac and Palin’s comment is 100% accurate.
Many people do not know or understand the function of FMAC. They ARE too expensive to tax payers. They tack on enormous FEES to your Mortgage Lender who then passes that fee on, along w/ their own on top of it, to YOU.
I understand the public not understanding their function but certainly not a news organization!
Posted by: Ginny | September 8, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
April: How cynical can you be? So your stating that ACORN is a radical organization because it aims to help low and moderate families. Its aims are to gain better housing for first time homebuyers and tenants who do not have easy ways to do so otherwise. IE to have the American dream like what we all want? Are you really that mean and hateful of people who have less then you?
Posted by: dlboggan | September 8, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
If McCain is such a maverick and against the Republicans? Why doesn’t he run as an independent?
I can’t believe that the republicans will allow him to get outside their party’s control. i.e Sara Palin
I can’t believe we can be manipulated so easily by the Republican propaganda machine. i.e. WAR with IRAQ, this Election… If there was a oscar for propaganda the Republicans win hands down.
Just vote for McCain
Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Jake, I’m sure you and your liberal media friends play gotcha for Sarah Palin in your sleep. Why don’t you look at who Freddie and his big sister Fannie have given money to politically? That’s the bigger story. Just read Sarah’s words: F&F have gotten too big for taxpayers–and if you took off your biased glasses you could acknowledge that instead of playing word games with stories like this. Fortunately, the majority of Americans are waking up and recognizing the bias against the GOP and adoration for Obama from the media (go read the details of the CBS news poll out today).
Posted by: conny | September 8, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
American execs are bred to milk the govt. Till you find a way to hold them responsible for their fiduciary lapses they will always find a way. These people aren’t leading corporate citizens, they are thieves who should be treated worse than those who steal 100$ at the corner grocery to feed their children. This is not an accident, it is a short term business plan. That leaves Americans with the bill. They ate at the table and ate like pigs then stuck you and I with the bill, I’m not averse to knocking on doors to get them to pony up. They aren’t responsible they need fear, and we need to stop wiping their butts. And McCain thinks they need a tax because they stimulate the economy. It’s all talk, they are in the same bed Obama likely isn’t going to do anything either.
Posted by: tk1699 | September 8, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
DennisNC: “Palin was referring to BEFORE the bailout.” You’re wrong. The bailout has been an active discussions for several weeks. Everyone who has been following the story knew it was going to be expensive and knew it was inevitable.
Posted by: Arbie | September 8, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
“Most people are not as ignorant and stupid as the left.”
Just like most people are not god loving Americans and the left is Socialist. Common dude get a grip, think about your Country not your party. We’re in this altogether, let us save our Country.
Posted by: Charlie Wright | September 8, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
sam:
“Since Ginnie and Freddie are backed by the Fed they are quasi public organizations, not private.”
————————–
What she said was that they were ALREADY costing the tax payer lots of money. Which is absolutely false. I.e., she is ignorant about these entities.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
As time goes by, the incompetence of this wing-nut will become impossible to ignore. The 28% hardcore kool-aide drinkers can enjoy her all they want to, but she will be rejected by the sane majority. I hope.
Posted by: anonymous | September 8, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Arbie,
You are wrong.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
WHEN did education become a NON qualifier for PRESIDENT? It is amazing to me that this woman with barely a college education who claims that she is part of the middle class (you did hear her say “us”—she has on over $500 eyeglasses people–most middle class folks are at wallyworld buying their glasses)is even seriously being considered for VP.
She is UNDEREDUCATED, HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF FISCAL MATTERS and NO EXPERIENCE IN FOREIGN DIPLOMACY.
Does she even know WHAT is going on in the world? They can not keep her holed up and bring her up to terms on all the World History in a few weeks.
She should have been reading and studying as most serious politicians do—not out hunting moose and fishing.
Wait, maybe she could have been supervising her family better and not contributing to the demise of american values?
Conservatives your backdoor morals and values are SHOCKING. So, let me get this right—it is okay if I am an evangelical or republican to have premarital sex, get pregnant, keep the baby, get married at 17 to a boy that states that he is a “redneck”? Come on People…don’t let the Republicans snow ball you again.
Posted by: Teresa | September 8, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Palin doesn’t know what the hell she is talking about.
Posted by: Kaeo | September 8, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
DennisNC: “Palin was referring to BEFORE the bailout.” You’re wrong. The bailout has been an active discussions for several weeks. Everyone who has been following the story knew it was going to be expensive and knew it was inevitable.
Posted by: Arbie | Sep 8, 2008 7:56:06 PM
If you read her comments that is not what she said. Geez would you people get some type of reading comprehension.
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Palin is to uninformed to be a heart beat away . . . a token women, what a shame!
Posted by: jgo | September 8, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
How many states to we have?….57???
Posted by: Bill | September 8, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
And we want an ignorant nobody to be our VP? You jest.
Posted by: barbara | September 8, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Sarah Palin is correct. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac grew at an extremely fast rate and now insure $5 trillion worth of very questionable quality mortgages.
They will have to pay hundreds of billions of dollars because of foreclosures and shrinking home valuations. They don’t have anywhere near the funds needed to make good on their obligations. If they did, the government wouldn’t be taking them over.
Part of the bailout plan are requirements to shrink both entities. This will lower the outstanding risk to US taxpayers, who will be paying for all of this.
I don’t understand why you cannot understand this. It is fairly simple.
Posted by: Dogstar | September 8, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
She’s in way way over her head. She has no ideea what she is talking about here. Makes sense that they are keeping her away from press questions as she simply can not answer them yet. Sadly the American people are letting her take a pass.
Posted by: janet | September 8, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
the Gibson interview is a farce – we all know that he will roll over for Palin.
Posted by: davvid | September 8, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Arbie:
“The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.”
What part of “have gotten” do you not understand? The governmnet took them over just YESTERDAY.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
All these slurs about anything but Palin’s misstatement makes me think you guys don’t know how Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are structured either.
Here’s the facts, she likes standing up in front of crowds that are non-critical and made up only of her base, however, she doesn’t know what the *bleep* she’s talking about.
Posted by: laura | September 8, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Many people do not know or understand the function of FMAC. They ARE too expensive to tax payers. They tack on enormous FEES to your Mortgage Lender who then passes that fee on, along w/ their own on top of it, to YOU.
*********
Ummmm…Ginny, you mean they tack on the additional costs to the borrowers? Taxpayers did not have to pay anything on those loans you speak of, only the borrower.
Posted by: isosure | September 8, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
I’m willing to bet that 95% of the people posting here have no idea what Freddie and Fannie are or how a GSE is similar to yet differs from a regular public company. I hate bailouts, but I guess we have little choice on this one. Freddie and Fannie have been propped up largely by Democrats, but also by Republicans in Congress. And much as you hope for it to be true, Governor Palin is not a stupid woman and she is going to be the next Vice President of the United States. This one isn’t even going to be close.
Posted by: Joanne600 | September 8, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Um…..anyone remember that F&F received billions in taxpayer subsidies; was created by the government as a “hybrid company; pays no state or federal taxes; and, are the only mortgage companies to each receive $2.25 billion in lines of credit with the US Treasury?
Private company? Riiiiiiight.
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Posted by: GT | September 8, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
I believe that she was adlibbing and got off track. She did not understand what she was saying.
She is not qualified. On any level.
It is not a question of just lacking experience – the experience she does have is bad. Her ‘executive’ accomplishments are meager.
Posted by: juswaitin | September 8, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
To the jr. neocon who made this statement:
“Sarah Palin is correct. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac grew at an extremely fast rate and now insure $5 trillion worth of very questionable quality mortgages.
They will have to pay hundreds of billions of dollars because of foreclosures and shrinking home valuations. They don’t have anywhere near the funds needed to make good on their obligations. If they did, the government wouldn’t be taking them over.”
Do you think this will be LESS expensive to tax payers, now that it is RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT?
Posted by: Heather | September 8, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Okay – after venting I feel better. Honestly the compenstion levels of american execs is whacked. Stock based compensation only leads to manipulation and a lack of transparecy in financial statements. The punishment for malfeasance is necessary but how to accomplish it is very difficult. I’d really like to hear some ideas from the candidates.
Posted by: tk1699 | September 8, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Good old Phil Graham and his deregulation mania… None of this would have been possible without him. I guess we are ALL whiners now….
Posted by: ADNK | September 8, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Palin made these comments on Sat. two days before the announced bailout.. so…..
Posted by: cwest | September 8, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
All Americans in every state should want to know all they can about Gov. Palin. The GOOD and the NOT SO GOOD. It is only in this way that all of us will be able to make a fair judgment of just how capable Gov. Palin will be when making decisions affecting our country. Do you judge a book by it’s cover, without reading a little of what the book is about before you buy it? Just because Palin looks good, the McCain camp says she is good and everyone is so excited about her dosen’t mean she is good. Like anything else, you check it out (thoroughly) before you buy it. IT IS BEST TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY!!!
Posted by: D in California | September 8, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
The response was a typical non answere, with a touch of sleight of hand/mouth. We hear so much of this it’s a mystery why we even bother asking the questions.
The very real issue is that all this financial mess is a direct result of the successful republican (Phil Gramm as Senator and then lobbyists) accomplishment of de-regulation of banking institutions. And who is the primary advisor to McCain on this matter, why Phil Gramm. When they say he no longer is with the campaign the translation is he is out of sight but still in play.
Posted by: Jean Bainger | September 8, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
She’s in so far over her head, and the thing is, she’s too dumb to realize it.
Posted by: Disgruntled | September 8, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
“Sarah Palin is correct.”?
How do you reconcile the statement “The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” and the fact that it has been costing the taxpayer NOTHING?
Amazing.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
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Gov. Sarah Palin made her first potentially major gaffe during her time on the national scene while discussing the developments of the perilous housing market this past weekend.
Speaking before voters in Colorado Springs, the Republican vice presidential nominee claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had “gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.” The companies, as McClatchy reported, “aren’t taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization.”
Economists and analysts pounced on the misstatement, which came before the government had spent funds bailing the two entities out, saying it demonstrated a lack of understanding about one of the key economic issues likely to face the next administration.
Posted by: cwest | September 8, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
I thought she was alot like our ‘wonderful’ president. Now she has proved it. Just like him she needs speech writers to to write for her. From Bushisms to Palinisms.
Posted by: CL | September 8, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
This is just the 2nd of many. (#1: I’m not exactly sure what a vice president does)
How about a real interview Sarah? Not just with one, hand-selected reporter. How about a room full? Can’t take it? Obama can.
There’s a whole big, nasty world out there that you’ve never experienced. And you’re scared of the U.S. press???
Posted by: J-Tyme | September 8, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Oh lord…spin, spin, spin, spin…from both sides.
Shouldn’t the Right now be upset because Freddie and Fannie have basically been nationalized…which is kind of socialist and all those other bad words.
Shouldn’t the Left attempt to propose some novel solutions to these situations instead of doing the “Bush’s Fault” dance.
And isn’t it obvious to everyone that Sarah Palin is in no way suited for the role that she’s been given…other than having someone from the Lord’s Army in the national spotlight.
Posted by: jackpine savage | September 8, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
To the jr. neocon spin artist that made this statment:
Palin made these comments on Sat. two days before the announced bailout.. so…..
Um, Palin’s complete and total absence from the public eye on saturday was embarassing to our country and all forms of democracy in the world. But nice try. Now that I see what a liar you are, I understand why you are voting for the candidates who have done nothing by lie non-stop since the begining of their unholy union.
Posted by: Heather | September 8, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Govenor Palin’s statement highlights why her educational record is so relevant to her qualifications. Why did she start out as business major and then switch to a “broadcast journalism” major? Did she bomb in business? Her statement would seem to indicate that is a very real possibility.
Before journalism died in this country, perhaps a red flag would have gone up when she said she selected her major because she because of her love of writing. Also, what is up with her selection of childrens’ names. If I named my son “baseball” people would be asking about my priorities and influences and perhaps speculating that I might have a screw loose. But again, because journalism died in the US, these obvious red flags go unquestioned.
John McCain is at an age that makes it a strong possibility that he will not be able to complete his term. Do we really want a female version of an inexperienced George W. Bush leading the nation? Could we survive?
Ah but the anchors look so marvelous.
Posted by: Scott | September 8, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
A) Anything that happened and FM&FM, happened under Republican oversight (or lack thereof).
B) She clearly doesn’t understand what they do or what went wrong.
C) McCain is clapping when she says it.
Posted by: Seth Berkowitz | September 8, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
cwest:
” Palin made these comments on Sat. two days before the announced bailout.. so…..”
———
Good point. That makes her statement all the more bizarre.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
My name is Sarah Palin, I am the governor of Alaska and I am NOT smarter than a 5th Grader
Posted by: Jen | September 8, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Sarah Palin is just exposing her true identity: Alaska-first secessionist who knows nothing about the United States of America. Sarah Palin said in her RNC acceptance speech that America’s presidency is not supposed to be a personal journey of discovery. Right, America’s presidency is not supposed to be John McCain’s personal journey to discover that he is unfit to handle the job of the president. And America’s vice presidency is not supposed to be a personal journey of an Alaska secessionist to discover and experience the real America.
Posted by: Gorestro | September 8, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
WOMEN WOMEN WOMEN STOP!!! By virtue of some women post we has fallen into the old stereotype that women make important decisions based on EMOTIONS! ONE speech….ONE speech….ONEEEE SPEECHHHH!!!!! Would you pick a person to care for your child based on ONE meeting, with no resume…..Would you pick a mate based on ONE meeting… Would you buy a car without at least calling CarFax to check out its HISTORY….. It is frightening to realize as a woman our standards mainly consist of body parts!!!….. As a woman I wouldn’t turn over the safety and trust of my family to ANYONE based on a prepared speech…that is why men can depend on women to chose on emotions and “REMAIN” clueless…… Women are placing 100 years of advances into the hands of a virtual unknown…..What we do know is Gov. Palin “FAILED” on the most important job bestowed upon her…..she failed a daughter whom she had an obligation to, a daughter that depended on her by giving her parental consent and allowing her to enter into a longterm relationship, completely STUPID about sex education…. and Sexuality Transmitted diseases! Bristol Palin is pregnant… her LIFE has been permanently “CHANGED”….. that’s the kind of “CHANGE” we can do without! Being a educated woman advocating for….equal rights….equal treatment….equal voice….equal pay…. my “JOB” just became harder!!!
Posted by: Candice | September 8, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Sarah Palin is correct. Read the details of the bailout plan. It requires Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to SHRINK their operations and obligations.
They are required to DOWNSIZE their loan portfolios by 10% a year.
Why are they required to downsize? Because currently they are too large. They carry $5 trillion of debt on their books.
Hello? Why else would they get taken over by the government? Management was a disaster, there were no underwriting rules and things were spiraling out of control. They had no earnings, no cash on hand and no hope of paying off all their claims.
I buy/sell stock for a living and watched their stock prices going from the 60s to less than 5, BEFORE the bailout was announced.
Posted by: Dogstar | September 8, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
The Republican machine will not let Palin answer to the press or the voters. In this gaffe, her amazing lack of knowledge is beginning to leak. The incredible hypocrisy of the Republicans over the course of the last week is unbelievable.
Posted by: bnot4palin | September 8, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
We may not know the difference but you’d expect the potential Vice President to know that Fannie May is a private institution. A pathetic pick.
Posted by: Dave H | September 8, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
So Jake is keeping count to discredit Sarah. Where is his story on Obama’s telling us we have 57 states? Obama has said he has visited 57 states but not Hawaii and Alaska. That’s better than Quayl’s misspelling of potato. A President should at least know how many states are in the union. Even a third grader could get that right.
Posted by: obamagaffeno57 | September 8, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
“Though they’re private entities ultimately backed up by the taxpayers.”
The same way that Savings and Loans are. Is she going to also say that the Savings and Loans have gotten too big and expensive for the taxpayers?
Posted by: doctorwang | September 8, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Did she not learn anything while attending 5 colleges in 6 years before earning the prestigous journalism degree from Idaho?
Bush’s speech writer must not have written her response like they did her convention speech.
Posted by: Danny | September 8, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Sarah Palin is correct. Read the details of the bailout plan. It requires Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to SHRINK their operations and obligations.Posted by: Dogstar | Sep 8, 2008 8:13:56 PM
She was responding BEFORE the bailout. In which case she is wrong.
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
This article is telling me that an SA on the issue should have been delivered when Palin made the comment.
Fannie and Freddie are too high a risk to the taxpayer. Palin knows this and we do now from the fact that the bailout is necessary. The comment “… though presumably she supports the Bush administration’s bailout.” is inappropriate to call this a Bush administration bailout since Obama supports it. Or is Obama becoming more like Bush?
Posted by: MBell_TX | September 8, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
FDIC has bailed out 11 banks and counting. If this keeps up, what happens next? The taxpayers will continue to foot the bill because the non-taxpayers (rich folks) are shielded from risk. Is this right? Not at all.
Posted by: Trish | September 8, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
She -like all in the political realm-are trying to pleae everyone but of course-big businees and lobbnyists more than the avg citizen. Tha aside, why would I vote for her when we have hundreds=thousands?-of more women in this nation taht are more qualified. She is one mis=step away from president-if I needed a very serious iperation why why I go to the person with little experience? McCain picked her becaus she is a woman-rlgious consrvative-oil companies in Alaska-and because Americans didn’t learn from the last election and if they elect McCain we will once again see the headlines in the UK and other countries proclaiming how crass and sel-destructive Americans are-and they will be absolutely correct!
Posted by: rdernick | September 8, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Obama/Biden 08!!!
Phil and Wendy Lee Gramm did a nice economics tutor job for know-nothing-about-America Alaska secessionist Sarah Palin. I am sure Joe Lieberman will tutor her to mix the Sunnis and Shiites and al Qaeda and Taliban and Hamas all in one bowl.
Obama/Biden 08!!!
Posted by: Gorestro | September 8, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
tim, this idiot went to 6 schools in 6 years, and finally obtained a bachelors degree in barbie 101 and now you want to know how she is less qualified than a guy who gradualted magna cum laude from Harvard. Obama is obviously light years ahead of her intellectually, and that is more than enough to make him more qualified. she doesnt have a clue about the economy, except maybe the cost of bread in alaska.
Posted by: Jo | September 8, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Sarah Palin the MANIPULATOR gets what she wants, she knows how to get what she wants. She knows how to spin all the suckers around her little finger. She don’t impress me none
Posted by: mary | September 8, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Sarah Palin is correct. Read the details of the bailout plan. It requires Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to SHRINK their operations and obligations.
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1. Both campaigns were briefed about the bailouts.
2. That means she knew about the details of the bailouts.
3. They WERE NOT bailed out because they got too big and expensive for the taxpayer.
4. They were in trouble because there was no regulation and they made too many high risks loans that went bad.
5. The taxpayer had NOTHING to do with either company until YESTARDAY.
6. Now we do, to the tune of $200 Billion
Posted by: isosure | September 8, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Heather says, “Do you think this will be LESS expensive to tax payers, now that it is RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT?”
My response: No, it will be very expensive. That is exactly what Sarah was talking about. And the longer we allowed those two companies to operate, the worse it would have got. If you read about the bailout, you will see that all of upper management was fired and the operating rules for the company have changed.
The company is required to tighten standards, sell off loan portfolios, insure fewer mortgages and shrink outstanding debt.
Sarah Palin was correct, and she was obviously briefed on what was going to happen before the fact.
Wall Street was talking about the takevoer on Friday, so why is it a surprise? She didn’t bring it up until Saturday, after the plan was in progress.
Posted by: Dogstar | September 8, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Maria Bartiromo of CNBC interviewed Palin awhile back in her capacity as Governor. When Palin was first selected by McCain, Bartiromo was asked what she knew about her. She commented that Palin knew alot about energy, but not banking. I think that lack of knowledge is just the tip of the iceberg, otherwise McCain would not be so bent on keeping her off the Sunday talk shows. There were plenty of qualified women McCain could have selected for VP. This is not one that I am happy with. It’s a sellout to the right wing of the party and he sold out the American people in the process. Country first? I don’t think so.
Posted by: Grace | September 8, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
I am amazed at the way rep. tow the party line.. I swear they could put little Brit or Lindsey up there and spin it like cotton candy at the state fair.. and ya’ll would be right there.. defending it… well Sarah is perhaps a slightly better pick then those two.. but she better get a clue.. or she is gonna make it really tough on ya’ll.. Lock and load honey it only get’s tougher..
Posted by: sarah | September 8, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
I have been a loan officer for over 10 years and have a clear understanding of Fannie and Freddie.
THIS WOMAN DOES NOT KNOW WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT. She must have been thinking about the occupation in Iraq. Now that is something that has been too expensive for the tax payer.
I am surprised that she didn’t say, “Of course Fannie Mae is getting too big! You should see what she orders at the local Wasilla diner. Freddie Mac, I don’t know him, he must be new to Wasilla. I wonder if my church has contacted him to invite him to a service.”
Why do you think that they will not let her talk to reporters. If she is ready to be VP, then surely she can answer some questions. If she is for open government, then surely she can answer some questions. If she has answered questions as the Gov of Alaska for the last 18 months, then surely she is competent enough to continue.
She is the equivalent of arm candy at a party. She makes you look good until she opens her mouth.
Posted by: 100Fires | September 8, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Oh wait maybe she does know about taxpayer bailouts. I guess your right she is more qualified in this area. She left her hometown taxpayers 20 MILLION in debt, that they will have to be bailed out of! lol
Posted by: Jo | September 8, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
“They’re private entities”. Not really. And that’s the problem. Mae and Mac have combined private profits with publicly-absorbed risk. So the guys running the business have no motivation to reduce risk….the taxpayers wouldl bail them out, and everybody knew it. Sarah is correct, as were all the economists warning of the same thing for years.
Posted by: mike | September 8, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Anytime I have ever heard the two lenders mentioned it has been mentioned in the same light as the Government. For example “Bill Clinton selects so an so to be the chairman or Government,or loans issued to first time and low income buyers by fredie mac and fredie mae guarantted by the us government’. And if it wasn’t a Governemt operation, regretfully, it surely is now. What a bath that all of us taxpayers are taking.
Posted by: david | September 8, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Let’s see. Unless we want to put an end to the home building and buying business, such entities will necessarily get large. What are the alternatives? Banks and S&L’s? Like the entities mentioned here, they are private entities but most of them are backed by the government, too.
She further demonstrates her naivete by suggesting that she and McCain will somehow reduce the overall size of such institutions.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
God will provide
Posted by: tuomug | September 8, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
No wonder she wanted to ban all those books in Wasilla — larning hurts.
Partial list;
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
> >>>Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
> >>>Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
> >>>Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
> >>>Christine by Stephen King
> >>>Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
> >>>Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
> >>>Decameron by Boccaccio
> >>>East of Eden by John Steinbeck
> >>>Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
> >>>Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
Posted by: JB | September 8, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Look, We all know that the Dems hate Sarah. But it just does not matter. She and her new boss will still win the election. Obama snorted coke, has a terrorist friend and his pastor hates Anerica! Nick Nick
Posted by: Nick | September 8, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Cariboo Barbie is going to astound us on her incredible grasp of economic issues and finances………LOL!!!!!
ps…Obama is still a Christian…sad retread, geevil
Posted by: Lee-Usa | September 8, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Palin, the Wizard of Oz…once you take curtain away ( a speech written by Bush’s team) she is not qualified. The first of many gaffes to come.
Posted by: Danny | September 8, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Well, if you assume that she meant the conservatorship in her comments, then does this mean that she DOESN’T support that measure? Is saving Freddie or Fannie “too expensive” for the American taxpayers? Her running mate says the conservatorship is a necessary measure. But, if it is “too” expensive, then why are we doing it?
From the words she said–rather than what you want to believe she said–she indicated that this has happened over time. “They have gotten too big and too expensive.” This implies that they have been progressively getting more and more expensive. That is factually wrong. They have not been progressively costing the taxpayers more and more.
But let’s even say that what she really meant (btw, isn’t this what you guys accuse Obama of doing–always having to clarify? this woman doesn’t even help us out!) was that Freddie and Fannie were making riskier investment decisions, thereby risking more and more taxpayer money, even though taxpayers hadn’t yet been made to foot the bill. Does she think that Freddie and Fannie should have faced more and tougher regulation much earlier? Is she criticizing the Bush administration’s poor handling of these companies?
Well, unfortunately, we don’t know the answers to these questions because though these people claim to be “mavericks,” they refuse to provide any direct criticism of how the Bush administration has handled this. So, she can make vague statements that are factually false and STILL get defended because she isn’t asked to clarify anything.
She’s too sensitive of a barracuda, I guess.
Posted by: ethel08 | September 8, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have always been guaranteed by the Federal government. So, Sarah was correct.
The longer they were allowed to do business, the larger the ultimate bill would have been.
Their stock went basically to zero. Their cash was gone. They had no assets, no value, no hope.
Posted by: Dogstar | September 8, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Sarah Palin and her husband hated the U.S. so much they joined the Alaska Independence Party…their motto…’Alaska First’.
Posted by: Lee-Usa | September 8, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Many of the conservative commenters on this board seem to think that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac created the subprime problem; that is hardly the case. It was greedy private lenders and the investment firms that bought their bogus loans that created the bubble – and it was *those* entities that counted on the security of FNMA and FHLMC to soften any blows they might experience. The gov’t created these institutions as a means to help lower-income people obtain mortgages, but Wall Street decided they were better suited as insurance for mortgage speculation -not so coincidentally, this took place shortly after changes in financial regulation that broke down many of the barriers between mortgage lenders and investment banks. Bit, sure, blame the government because businessmen decided to pervert gov’t programs for their own short-term gain, Seems pretty consistent with contemporary conservative morals.
Posted by: jjcomet | September 8, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Yo, Danny, Palin has more experience than your Presidential candidate. Name one thing Obama has done. This man has no experience, no Executive Experience. He is an enigma, and a puff piece of the US Media.
Posted by: Bob | September 8, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
I will never believe any economic plans that come out from John McCain and Sarah Palin because they all come out from Phil and Wendy Lee Gramm.
Sarah Palin said, “The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers. The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”
This is nothing but a negligently scripted cover word for the Phil and Wendy Lee Gramm style further financial deregulations that will completely destroy the country and make Osama bin Laden happy. It is not necessary to parse the words to figure out what she means. It simply came out from Phil and Wendy Lee Gramm.
Posted by: Gorestro | September 8, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Lee you are an idiot. Palin WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE PARTY! KEEP TRYING. When will you leftists provide REAL information.
Posted by: Bob | September 8, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Palin is eye candy and brought in to inject life into McCains lifeless campaign. She is in a cone of silence, Bush’ speechwriter wrote her speech and she is short sighted and hot tempered, does that remind you of anyone. Her personal life is a mess, her tenure in alaskan govt is a disgrace and now when McCain gts elected and croaks, she will be the leader of the free world. Woohoo, no wonder the world considers us AMercans stupid.
Posted by: Trevor Godfrey | September 8, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
“On September 7, 2008, Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) director James Lockhart announced he had put Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under the conservatorship of the FHFA (see Federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac). The action is “one of the most sweeping government interventions in private financial markets in decades”.”
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Note the term “PRIVATE financial markets”.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Most people saying they support Palin have only known about her for two weeks. Is that what this country has become? People making one of the most important decisions they can based on two weeks? John McCain spoke to this woman once before picking her. Right now, in my company-a global company that takes its hiring decisions very seriously has interviewed people that work for the company for new positions at least TWICE! Come on, people! Did you ever get a job based on a few minutes of conversation? Talk about affirmative action pick! Palin is the queen of affirmative action! No way on earth she would have been chosen if she were a man! Snap out of your delusions and think about ALL Americans! McPalin cannot run this country. Talk about our enemies ready to strike? I’m sure this fumbling duo would be just the encouragement they need!
Posted by: Vera | September 8, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
ethyl8 says, “This implies that they have been progressively getting more and more expensive. That is factually wrong. They have not been progressively costing the taxpayers more and more.”
My response: Yes, they at currently at an all-time high in debt. They provide insurance on $5 trillion dollars in mortgages, many of which are without value. Their debt has skyrocketed in the past couple of years, and their assets are gone.
Their stock is worthless, they have no cash on hand, their mortgage portfolios are dropping in value on a daily basis and it is impossible for them to continue doing business.
The bailout requires them to replace management, tighten their rules and lower their outstanding debt.
Sarah was correct.
Posted by: Dogstar | September 8, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
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By the way why is the left treating Sarah Palin as if she were running against Obama for the PRESIDENCY?
Could it be she has more experience than him?
Posted by: s | September 8, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Sarah Palin should not have been nominated for the position of vice president. She was chosen at the last moment which is unfair and unjust to the American public. She may be a well qualified person, but she will not get to be scrutinized enough before election day. All other candidates have been under the microscope for quite some time. It is also unfair for other candidates who haven’t had an opportunity to watch her in the political arena, but she has been able to assess others while out of harms way.
Posted by: rich | September 8, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Sarah was correct.
Posted by: Dogstar | Sep 8, 2008 8:33:32 PM
How can you be right on something that had not occurred yet?
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Hey Bob, I can name something Sarah Palin has done that Obama hasnt. Take a small nowhere town with no debt at all, and run its Economy into the ground by saddling this little place with 20 MILLION dollars of debt, then sashaying out the door. And this is her HOMETOWN! If this is the way she treats people she cares about how will she treat us? She obviously threw them under the bus, and the U.S. Economy is next!
Posted by: Jo | September 8, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Before we get too caught up in how much someone knows before starting a new job, is that the right expectation? Clinton was a Rhodes scholar but it seems to me that a president or VP will get plenty of counsel before having to make important decisions. It’s their character and integrity which will help guide them to make the right ones. Are we trying too hard to find a defining “potatoe” moment? Remember that knife cuts both ways, just ask Dan Rather.
Posted by: thekid | September 8, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Yo Bob, she is also a foreign poliocy expert cause she Alaska is close to Russia!!! Did you know Wasilla is 736 from Wales Alaska which is about 50 more miles to Russia. EXPERT
Posted by: Danny | September 8, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
I have read and have seen what she said and I am an independent voter. What she said is correct. Taxpayers are bailing out these two institutions ala the goverment take over. It has to do the with the FDIC regulations. So when these places go belly up and the government has to take over we have to pay for it ultimately as taxpayers. As far as the difference in days Saturday when she said this to Monday when it was announced for all of you people that have been living in a cave, it has been no secret that this matter was heading for government takeover. It has been expected for weeks and I am sure that with her proximity to McCain the last week it has been extensively discussed between the two about what was going to happen and how things were going to be handled. So my point is what is the point in this? She is right Freddie and Fannie had gotten two large and their failure will probably affect us as taxpayers for a good while.
Posted by: Jon | September 8, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
KO just said that she never fired the personal chef, just reassigned her, but she kept cooking, LOL
OWNED by KO!!
Posted by: isosure | September 8, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Jake,
Gov. Sarah Palin meant they are NOW too large and expensive to the taxpayers due to the current bailout. But prior, as private companies they were too large in the first place. So, you asked, and YES I buy the McCain/Palin explanation. Plus, she looked beautiful when she said it!
McCain 2008/Hillary 2012!!!
Posted by: PhillyPaul | September 8, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
“They’re private entities”. Yes, really. Fannie was privatised in 1968. Freddie set up as her competitor 2 years later. Private companies. Private profits. Private failures. Just like Bear Sterns.
Now that they’ve failed? The taxpayer gets to bail them out.
The rich few get to keep the profits and the struggling many get to pay for their failure.
The Republicans are thieves, crooks and liars – stealing from the majority to line the pockets of the few. They fooled us once, shame on them, they fool us again – shame on us.
Posted by: jan | September 8, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
o my point is what is the point in this? She is right Freddie and Fannie had gotten two large and their failure will probably affect us as taxpayers for a good while.
Posted by: Jon | Sep 8, 2008 8:39:25 PM
Once again for you people who can’t comprehend reading something. That is not what she said. She made the comment before the bailout was announced.
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Palin is so obviously not qualified to act as VP. She does not even understand the roles of fannie and freddie. This is such a sad situation for the American people. I keep waiting for McCain to shout, “April fool!”
Posted by: jmb | September 8, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Bob – you are describing Palin. If she has so much “executive experience” then she should be at the top of the ticket. Face it – the Republicans now have what they accuse Obama of being – an empty suit.
What knowledge has her “executive experience” given her about Iraq? (She stated she hadn’t given much thought to it.) National security? World leaders? (She’s barely been out of the country.) Military leadership? (leadership of Alaskan National Guard is not much of a stretch.) How to handle the fiscal crisis? (Dealing with AK’s budget is not nearly as complicated as many other states.)
She is not ready to step into the presidency should an emergency occur.
Posted by: One Woman Who's Not Fooled | September 8, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
These comments are getting away from the main focus. If someone is not controlling her puppet strings, she is clueless and not qualified.
She preaches change while reading a teleprompter speech written by Bush speech writers. Everything will be downhill when she is on her own.
Posted by: Danny | September 8, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Speaking of Wasillia (sp?), I saw that its budget is $30,000,000 for a town of a little over 7,000 people. I hope that is not their idea of keeping spending down.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Sarah Palin was INCORRECT. If she said that after the Federal Government announced the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bailout, then we can understand that. But she said it before the bailout announcement. It just shows how little this Alaska secessionist knows about the real America.
America’s vice presidency is not supposed to be a personal journey of an Alaska secessionist to discover and experience the real America.
Posted by: Gorestro | September 8, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
1. Both campaigns were briefed about the bailouts.
2. That means she knew about the details of the bailouts.
3. They WERE NOT bailed out because they got too big and expensive for the taxpayer.
4. They were in trouble because there was no regulation and they made too many high risks loans that went bad.
5. The taxpayer had NOTHING to do with either company until YESTARDAY.
6. Now we do, to the tune of $200 Billion
Posted by: isosure | September 8, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Ducking the media? it hasn’t been 2 weeks. Obama just appeared on FOX after how long? Even Hillary said FOX treated her better than MSNBC. Yet Obama felt he wasn’t ready to face FOXNews. To his credit, he finally granted an interview. Again, my point is are we a little eager to jump to conclusions?
Posted by: thekid | September 8, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
isosure -
Thanks for pointing out my error.
FMAC does benefit from govt “benefits” which amounts to something in excess of $4m annually, which taxpayers pay. It is a ‘fluff’ benefit. They do not receive direct funds from the govt but they have always cost the taxpayer.
Posted by: Ginny | September 8, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
This lady really scares me. It is about time we all get mad and refuse to have this lady pushed down our throats. She is not qualified and it shows. Repub are so happy that they refuse to see that she is unqualified. They know it but just feel if they ignore it it will go away. Not going to happen. Please for all that is right and just don’t vote for McCain/Palin ticket just because she is a woman. She is a woman that is not qualified to be VP.
Posted by: betty franklin | September 8, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
How can someone support a VP pick who hasn’t even been given an interview? Please wait for some unscripted moments plus a debate to make the claim look at least legitimate!
Actually Palin is a virtual celebrity image at this point, unknown for real. Come on, admit it. It’s really McBush and his republican brand that you idolize – but in secret.
Posted by: Libratine | September 8, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Palin’s Pastor, Ed Kalnins, makes Rev. Wright look like the Pope. Here is what the Rev. Kalnins has taught her and what she repeats.
She says terrorism against Jews is part of God’s plan because they refuse to accept Jesus as their savior; that the Palestinians killing Jews is part of God’s plan.
She asks her congregation to “pray for the oil pipeline.”
She says Alaska has a special place in God’s plan to save it during the “End Times.”
She used State fund to transport kids during church outing;
She says the war in Iraq is part of “God’s plan.”
She says gaye people can be converted and become straight;
She has said when the spirit moves her, she “speaks in tongues.”
She believes in “faith healing.”
These are just a few of her extreme statements.
She asked the city librarian to ban various books as not being Christian enough.
Is she a nut-job, or what?
You can find all this for yourself, just Google: Palin’s Church, Palin and the Jews, Palin and the Iraq war, etc.
Posted by: rhbate | September 8, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
sarah palin is uninformed half the time and is lying the other half. That’s what Keith just said and he sure is right.
Posted by: Rebecca | September 8, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Rich…Surely you are joking. Obama has had a pass from CNN and MSNBC all along. They have quizzed Palin and questioned more on her than all the many months put together about Obama.
Posted by: carolyn | September 8, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
The left and the media (basically interchangeable) attacked Palin so hard and with such obvious unfairness that any further attacks basically will continue to fuel her popularity. Their inability to be objective and show some restraint when Palin emerged has now made it very difficult for even legitimate issues about her to be raised – it will just have the net effect of making it look like they’re picking on her.
Posted by: K.F. Miller | September 8, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
P.S. to Bob – Todd Palin was a member of the AIP and Mrs. Palin attended some AIP events as a candidate.
Posted by: One Woman Who's Not Fooled | September 8, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
They have quizzed Palin and questioned more on her than all the many months put together about Obama.
Posted by: carolyn | Sep 8, 2008 8:47:46 PM
How can that be when she hasn’t spoken to the press as of yet?
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
rhbate…I suggest while all are googling that you good Rev Jeremiah Wright. Google Black liberation theology and get back to me.
Posted by: carolyn | September 8, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
It seems pretty obvious that the statement was really about cause and effect. It sounded like she intimated that the government bailout of FM and FM was BECAUSE they had gotten too big for the taxpayer.
Posted by: Gina | September 8, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Sarah Palin is a sideshow, on purpose. What about unemployment, housing foreclosures, energy policies, environmental issues, government bailouts, lobbying abuses, spending like drunken sailors in Iraq and elsewhere, the healthcare crisis, looming deficits, simple competence in governing? Yet we debate Sarah Palin??? COME ON!!!!
Posted by: Jay Sheen | September 8, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Liberalsmear:
All the so-called liberals on this post are squealing that Palin doesn’t have enough experience”
No, we’re saying she is incredibly ignorant.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
can you say KEATING 5!!!
Posted by: diane slattery | September 8, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
The left and the media (basically interchangeable) attacked Palin so hard and with such obvious unfairness that any further attacks basically will continue to fuel her popularity.
Posted by: K.F. Miller | Sep 8, 2008 8:48:37 PM
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Anyone who says that raising legitimate criticisms on Sarah Palin will continue to fuel her popularity is just trying to bluff and bully Americans in order to help Sarah Palin out of trouble and put her in the lie propaganda offensive.
Posted by: Gorestro | September 8, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
liberalsmear…You are 100% right. I had to laugh with you on that. These clowns actually think they can bring up Palin’s experience against Obama’s and win. That is hilarious. Then one of the posters brought up her minister. That is so funny too. No one can top Jeremiah Wright. That’s the intelligence of these Obama paid bloggers and supporters of Obama’s.
Keep em’ coming.
Posted by: carolyn | September 8, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Indy voter,
Did you also know that Rev Wright is a highly decorated Marine?? And then left that to join the Navy, who trained him as a cardiopulmonary technician? And that Rev. Wright was assigned as part of the medical team charged with care of President Lyndon B. Johnson??
Posted by: isosure | September 8, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Ask yourself why Palin is not appearing on Meet the Press and the other Sunday morning talk shows. When will we see an honest interview without her handlers around?
Posted by: simple_truth | September 8, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
We are so easily distracted by the sideshow. It is because the Republicans have no answer to the real problems of the day So they obfuscate. McCain is no longer running an honest campaign. Just throw them some red meat – fundie christians will come running. Win at all costs. What a cruel joke for our children.
Posted by: Jay Sheen | September 8, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Here’s a thought for REAL CHANGE from McBush. Just throw out McCain and go with O’Reilly/Palin. It is about as effective as McFossil and his pick from the Flat Earth Society ready to go global.
Posted by: Libratine | September 8, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
carolyn wrote:
No one can top Jeremiah Wright.
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You said it sister!! Rev Wright:
Marines
Navy cardiopulmonary technician that took care of President Lyndon Johnson
Recieved a letter of thanks on behalf of the United States of American for his work in the White house
Bachelors Degree
Two Master’s Degrees
PhD in Theology
Since 1972 has spent his life helping those less fortunate, the old, the poor, the homeless and uneducated.
You are right!! No one can top Rev Wright!! And before YOU impune the character of a man that you have never met once in your life, ask yourself what YOU have done to make this world a better place for others.
Because he has spent his entire life in service of others. This world needs MORE REv WRgihts!!!
Posted by: isosure | September 8, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Don’t worry Republicans, she will explain what she meant to the media – so long as the media complies with her agent’s terms and conditions. I think that TMZ is prepared to do interviews on those conditions; I suppose they will get the scoop on what Paris, oops, Palin thinks about things as hot as Freddie and Fannie. But really, who care, not a single sod in this entire country is voting for Palin because she has the intellectual capacity to run the country. Please.
Posted by: Peter | September 8, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Jo – why don’t you go take your race-mixing self-hatred to South Africa where you can get yourself raped by a big Zulu and have a nasty halfbreed baby like Obama?
Posted by: carolyn | Sep 8, 2008 9:06:45 PM
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Look people….llok at this digusting statement above. REad it over and over until you cant stand it anymore.
THIS is the reason we NEED change inthis country. It’s people like Carolyn that have running and ruining this country for the last 8 years!
ENOUGH!!!!
Posted by: isosure | September 8, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Time to go. No discussion, just insults bouncing off closed minds. Let’s admit we all have biases – does anyone remember when we used to debate? We should be able to argue on the basis of ideas and facts. Maybe we would become smarter in the process and hold both sides more accountable in the election. Anyone notice our wide open borders haven’t been discussed in the news for weeks? Both parties want it that way.
Posted by: thekid | September 8, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Sounds like total bull — or moose — to me. The woman clearly has no idea what these institutions are.
Posted by: Elizabeth | September 8, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
LET THE SWIFT BOAT OF PALIN BEGIN LAMO
1st Obama still leads in the states polls that Actually produces delegate Rove has Obama at 260 and McShame at 194. fOR MINDLESS EVENGELICALS THAT MEANS YOUR STILL LOSING lol 270 DELEGATES= Winner
2nd Palin has more bagegge than GUCCI IT SGOING TO WEIGH MCSHAME’S FIGHTER JET DOWN
3rd She wont Go on This Week or Face the Nation or Any show NOT EVEN FOX because she has no working knowlegde
on any issue other than Mooseburgers
let the swift boating of Sarah Palin begin lol
Posted by: KG | September 8, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
She doesn’t understand and McCain is not good on the economy. C’mon people, we can’t afford another 4 more years. Do you know how many lies her acceptance speech had. Do you know she kept the money for the bridge to nowhere. She thinks the Iraq war is a holy war (we’ll never get out of there). They all have their scandals, but this is more serious than the crap on this board.
Posted by: Michelle | September 8, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
jon trott from Chicag…What do you think Obama’s experience is to be President. Making good speeches with a teleprompter?
Posted by: carolyn | September 8, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
She doesn’t understand and McCain is not good on the economy. C’mon people, we can’t afford another 4 more years. Do you know how many lies her acceptance speech had. Do you know she kept the money for the bridge to nowhere. She thinks the Iraq war is a holy war (we’ll never get out of there). They all have their scandals, but this is more serious than the crap on this board.
Posted by: Michelle | September 8, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Carolyn,
Obama wrote his own acceptance speech.
Posted by: Michelle | September 8, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Really, people? If the right wants to continue to cast the media as sooo left (what’s new?), then I’d like to know where this left-leaning media has been for the last 7.5 YEARS!!! I wonder if a Swift Boat will ever come into play again? And no amount of political blather and politicing will sway my belief that McCain/Palin would do anything different than what the Bush admin has stripped, lied about, and plundered. Give me a break on the media — it’s been the fourth branch of the administration for almost a decade, so back off and stop your incessant bitching.
Posted by: Diana | September 8, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
“The left and the media (basically interchangeable)”
What absolute rubbish.
So Murdoch is a leftie now is he? Not what he’s saying. And Fox – lefies too? Liar. Tell the lie often enough and it will spin into truth somehow? If the Republicans have such a good brand then why do they need so many wingnuts spreading lies and misinformation. The truth about the Republicans cannot see them win – the fact that there are so many of you on here spinning out lies – dealing in dirt and dishonesty – is proof of that.
Posted by: jan | September 8, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
To Concerned in ATL and Baron and Obama-Yah-Wright:
Please stop blathering about Obama being a Muslim. Anyone who watches the interview with Stephanopoulus can clearly see that Obama was saying that John McCain has never implied that Obama is Muslim. (Note that John McCain has more integrity than you do). Sure, Obama’s meaning wouldn’t have been open to debate if he’d chosen to phrase it differently, such as: “McCain has never said anything to allege that I am of Muslim faith.” But then you dimwits would probably still just quote those last five words to suit your purposes.
Let’s debate some real facts instead of your fantasies, ok?
Posted by: amigan | September 8, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
This is both stupid and yet another cheap shot at Sarah Palin. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not really private companies. We wouldn’t be having this discussion if they were. They are an unwieldy government entity pretending to be private. All the answers Jake repeats from the McCain folks seem pretty much correct and sensible. This includes Palin’s. So what is Jake talking about?
Posted by: Erick | September 8, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Get off the Muslim BS already !
So what if it is true and I am certainly not saying it is but so what ! He was only a child so maybe his father did register him in a Catholic school as a Muslim ? I was raised a Catholic because that is what my parents were but when I was old enough to question and decide for myself I decided on spirituality and no religion ! So technicly I am not a Catholic any more.
We know he certainly isn’t a Muslim now even if his father may have registered him that way as a child .My god people get a brain and use some reasoning instead of the fear the Bush administration has drummed into your head that makes you so affaid of everyone that’s different than you ! That fear is what keeps you voting for stupid presidents like Bush !
Palin can’t answer questions off the cuff because she has no experience and that is why they will only let Gibson interview her after she already knows the questions she will be asked and is tutored well before she gets to answer anything.
Two Republican presidents have put our country in trillions of dollars in debt and their both called Bush and his buddy McCain voted 90% of the time for all his policies giving him card blanc to distroy this Nation !
Take a look at the last Democratic president he left office giving a surplus .Wake the hell up for gods sake ,,no for America’s sake !
Posted by: Linda | September 8, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
ltrs:
I went to the site you posted. Yes, these institutions have advantages (e.g., tax exemptions)from being GSE’s. But nowhere in that article does it cite any money going from the treasury to these institutions.
One of the roles of CBO is to evaluate the financial advantages conferred by government policies toward a variety of institutions. As in many of those evaluations, they use the phrase “TRANSLATES into a federal subsidy”.
This very same article refers to them as “privately owned entities”.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 8, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Jon wrote:
would make sure that we have a great emergency response infrastructure in place. That was it!! The person asked him, You wouldn’t hit back? He said, Oh yeah, we would find out who did it and hit them back. That tells me that he is so out of touch with what is required to be President. Sometimes you have to make snap decisions and hard decisions and he is not up to the job
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This may be too hard for you to understand, but IF we are attacked again, we DONT fly the planes out right then and there. We FIRST have to make sure we have the first responders in place to take care of the sick and wounded. THAT is THE FIRST thing we would have to do.
It’s the low info knuckle draggers that would say “Let’s hit ‘em back”.
Obama was spot on!!
Posted by: isosure | September 8, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Sarah’s much finer than Fannie. Dats all I kneed to no, yee-up!!
Posted by: Billy Bob | September 8, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Stop your whining about whether Palin knows anything about even the most basic fundamentals of the economy. Economic problems are purely psychological, and Palin has a PhD in psychology. Do your background checks MSM!
Posted by: McCain Advisor | September 8, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Our economy is one of the most important issues we as a country are facing today. It ties in with our energy independence and likely what future military engagements we may find ourselves in. Go look into “Petrodollars.”
But it seems that everyone is stuck on really quite stupid points. “Yah Palin! She’s so real!” and “OMG mom forwarded me an email from her friend confirming Barack Hussein Obama OSAMA is a Muslim!!” Who cares? To borrow from an old campaign, “It’s the economy, stupid.”
To that end, Palin is in fact dumb as a box of doorknobs. When she attempts substance in her speeches and responses, she comes across as someone who just memorized a book report to present to the class. You can tell she’s not given any of this any thought before.
Posted by: sigh | September 8, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
carolyn – Why is bringing up the question of Palin’s minister funny? Is it not a legitimate concern when she sits in church and listens to anti-semitic speech? She deserves the same treatment as Obama got with Reverend Wright.
But folks, let’s bottom line this. Put aside whether you agree with her religious views or not. Forget her being an attractive fresh face and a hockey mom.
Do what most employers would do. Look objectively at her educational and work background. Think about that. She may be an appealing woman but is there *anyone* who can say in all honesty she was the absolute BEST-QUALIFIED person that John McCain could’ve chosen? That she RIGHT NOW has the ability to step into the presidency at a moment’s notice? If your answer is yes, then why? And I don’t use the word “maverick” or the phrase “executive experience.”
I honestly want to know so that I can feel better about this choice should Senator McCain win in November.
Her experience vs. Obama’s can be argued, but don’t forget Obama was chosen by millions of voters. Sarah Palin was chosen only by a handful of people.
Posted by: Mary14 | September 8, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
“How many more times do you have to get hit on the head before you figure out whose hitting you?”
Harry S. Truman
The publicly traded private companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac hold or guarantee more than half of the mortgages in the US about -5.4 trillion worth. Allowing these companies to fail would have had devastating consequences to our country. The necessary bail-out is in fact necessary because of the Republican policy of little regulation of big business.
Gov. Palin’s lack of understanding of such an important economic issues is nothing new in a presidential, we saw the very same ignorance with George W. Bush when he ran in 2000 and sadly in 2004.
Posted by: Sue Ellen | September 8, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Only in Republican America would a black man with a law degree from Harvard, 12 years in politics, four years on the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee and manager of one of the most impressively flawless and forward thinking presidential campaigns ever not be ready for the presidency while a white female evangelical with 19 months in regional politics and a bachelors in journalism is considered “ready on day one”.
So true.
Posted by: Republican4ever | September 8, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Thanks Mary14 (humane)
does anyone know why none of the GOP or DEM ticket has replied to the SMARTVOTE.ORG political courage test when both Obama & McCain have replied in the past????? please take a look…i want those answers from the horses mouth easily at a glance in one place….please start an e-mail campaign anyone who really wants to only decide on the issues…MAKE THEM ANSWER BEFORE WE VOTE!!!!
A govt by the people for the people is supposed to be about a carried vote based on the consensus of the constituancy ….NOT A VOTE FOR ONE ELECTION AND WE TRUST THEIR CONSCIENCE!!!!!!
Posted by: EL | September 8, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
when you show me that you jump on biden and obama for their language, then i’ll give creedence to what you say about palin.
maybe you should do some homework – http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/8593.html – written 6 years ago.
yes, these entites DO cost us money. fammie mae alone $11B in 2001. financial-disclosure exemptions. quite the fiasco and no one did anything about it – until W.
try that one on for size, jack.
Posted by: clyde_m | September 8, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Palin is nice to look at.
We’ll give her that.
Vice President?
No, we won’t give her that.
Posted by: anon | September 8, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Tapper writes, “They’re private entities.
Though they’re private entities ultimately backed up by the taxpayers.”
I.e., they’re not really private entities.
Everyone needs to cool off and quit jumping over every word someone says in this race – and that includes both sides. Of course, if you’re just looking for an excuse to spew your own negative garbage all over the environment, well, who can stop you?
Posted by: NightyNight | September 8, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Gov Palin attends a church in which the speaker made unjustified remarks about jews and terrorism . How different is that from Rev Wright. Obama cant control what he says, neither can Palin control hers. Again , this is a way to tell yourselves that you dont want some one in office that doesnt look like you… You cant tell me that you actually prospered over the last 4 years. Obama has been talking about the issues , MCcain talks about his pesonality. Why wont they let Palin talk to the media…hmmmmmm…..WAKE UP
Posted by: Concerned AMerican | September 8, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
I will tell you why Mccain has taken the lead, you guys are crazy, you don’t care about your own body, your jobs, heath care, birth control, wage increase etc. Should I go on, no I’m not going to waste my time with you guys, I know why half of you are going to vote McPain, you don’t give a rats behind about your own self or the upcoming generation . Think about our children and grand children, when Mcshame and Mcgive up my right to choose, get into office and when all the jobs get ship away, no health care, social sercurity, you name it, you got it. Hell we will all be living under that damn bridge to nowhere.
Posted by: fallen | September 8, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
No wonder the McCain/Bush campaign staff is keeping her from talking to the news media. They’ll keep her carefully hidden away from any surprise questions until after the election.
Posted by: Karin | September 8, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Sarah Palin is RIGHT, fannie & freddie is costing txpayer’s too much money. We could be on the hook for $500 billion.
Posted by: John | September 8, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
The first of the 18 million cracks in the facade of Sarah Palin. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
Posted by: Blackwell | September 8, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Yep, Fannie Mae and Freddic Mac (the first letter of each of their acronyms reflect that both started out as a Federal government creation) are about as “private” an entity as the U.S. Post Office. Where are the stockholders? The Board of Directors”?
Hopefully one of the things McCain will clean up in Washington is this unholy alliance between Harvard graduates, Goldman Sachs and the federal government officials that “govern” our economy. Every problem is solved by the taxpayer paying for someone else’s mistakes. And you don’t have to be an Alaskan to know that.
There is money to be made by being “reasonable”. You don’t have to be a Chicago “machine politics” graduate with a diploma from Harvard and a pair of pants with some really big pockets to line, to know that.
Palin had it right and wants to cut off the hand stuck in the taxpayer’s pocket. Obama has his hand out and doesn’t want any hands cut off before he gets his share.
Posted by: ragnar30066 | September 8, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I just followed the link from the Huffington Post. One of the posters told us to come here and attack Palin and make her look bad. This is what the Liberal blogs are all about. Organized/coordinated attacks, so that you normal people think we just happened to come across this story and leave a post.
Posted by: Frank | September 8, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Palin doesn’t have a clue. Remember McCain saying last week that Palin was going to do 60 events in thirty days? Now’s that’s been scrapped and they’re joined at the hip. If she’s ready to be VP, why can’t she campaign on her own? Why can’t she talk to a reputable news outlet and answer questions without being prepped? Why must she be sheltered and led around by handlers? WHAT IS THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN AFRAID OF? WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?
Posted by: Blackwell | September 8, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Jamie Gorelick and other Clinton appointees to Fannie Mae so twisted the institution that loans were given out with no respect to resources. No wonder the Clintons want to get all of their pals back on the gravy train.
We now need someone to fix things and I do not care if they are republican or democrat. We will know who is honest on this by the way they describe how we got to this low point.
Posted by: disambiguates | September 8, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
ABC News main page article on bail out. . . . opening paragraph:
“The federal takeover of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will likely lower the cost of a mortgage for buyers with good credit, but it will also likely stick U.S. taxpayers with a bill in the tens of billions of dollars, analysts have concluded.”
Isn’t that exactly what she said? Is this a gaffe on ABC, or financial analysts?
Posted by: Dave B | September 8, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Palin lacked full disclosure in her RNC acceptancve speech by implying that only lipstick was the difference between her and a pit bull. We now have enough evidence of previous misdeeds and absentee motherhood to permit an unwed teen daughter to become pregnant and then serve as a stage prop of immorality–Sarah is an official Pit Bull, and she throws that excrement pretty well based upon her Fannie Mae/Freddiemac blunder and subsequent backpedal, a true Bushie!
Posted by: Aquinas3300 Media Watch | September 8, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
padhorn: We are in desperate need to nitpick Palin – if not now,when? Why is she immune to scrutiny? Because she was picked by John McCain? Give me a break!
Posted by: Tim Groove | September 8, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
There will be more gaffes, so what? She’s not the problem, McCain is the problem.
Posted by: Miguel | September 8, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
For years we have had a trade deficit with China. Today that deficit amounts to about one billion dollars per day. We buy more Chinese goods than they buy US goods. So about one billion of our dollars go to China per day. Coincidentally China regularly buys bonds in the amount of our Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgages. In effect,the Chinese government finances those mortgages. The US government ensures the bonds. So yes, the taxpayers are and have been all along liable for the amount of the face value plus interest earned on the bonds issued to China that finance Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgages. It’s definitely in the taxpayer’s interest to downsize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and regulate their activities more closely.
Posted by: mmonroeliveson | September 8, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
I vote for McCain whoever his VP is.
McCain no Hussein.
Posted by: carolyn | September 8, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
does anyone know why none of the GOP or DEM ticket has replied to the SMARTVOTE.ORG political courage test when both Obama & McCain have replied in the past????? please take a look…i want those answers from the horses mouth easily at a glance in one place….please start an e-mail campaign anyone who really wants to only decide on the issues…MAKE THEM ANSWER BEFORE WE VOTE!!!!
A govt by the people for the people is supposed to be about a carried vote based on the consensus of the constituancy ….NOT A VOTE FOR ONE ELECTION AND WE TRUST THEIR CONSCIENCE!!!!!!
Posted by: EL | September 8, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Why would any smart woman vote for McGoo.
Posted by: oo | September 8, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Palin’s interview by Charles Gibson is going to be nothing more than a love-fest. Don’t expect an interview even approaching anything that is going to be revealing – any hard-hitting questions. Gibson is only going to ask questions that have been pre-approved by the McCain camp.. Gibson was the only one who was given an interview of McCain during the primary. I think McCain just loved it.
Posted by: rhbate | September 8, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
OH AND BY THE WAY! voting simply present MEANS he was there doing his job showing up….BUT didnt have his people vote to carry….better an abstention vote than a false quorum you idiots
Posted by: EL | September 8, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Looks like CNN is doing the job McCain failed to do. They are starting to vet Palin. They have secured a videotape of her speaking in support of the Bridge to Nowhere. Now the games have begun and there will be real questions for he Charlie Gibson interview that will overshadow the grand scape of the Alaska wilderness that will serve as a pictoral backdrop to the questioning. We all know this woman has lied on several occassions. I am curious as to see how many lies will tip her celebrity status into the political toilet.
Posted by: clarity | September 8, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
carolyn -
I know all the arguments against Obama. I wasn’t talking about him. That’s not what I asked for.
What I want to know is if anyone can honestly say that Sarah Palin was the best-qualified choice to be VP. If you believe she was, then why? (without using the phrase “executive experience” or the word “maverick.”) Take other things like her religious beliefs out of the equation. Look at her education and work background only.
I really would like someone to convince me that she was McCain’s best choice so that I can feel more confident about her. Cause at this point I’m much more fearful of her having to take over the presidency in a emergency than I am of a President Obama.
Posted by: Mary14 | September 8, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
“Katrina, four dollar gas, a trillion dollar war, rising unemployment, deregulated housing market, global warming…no more.”
Greatest quote from another blog posting!
Posted by: Ineedadrink | September 8, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
BINGO!! She answers a question on her own and look what we get. This is why she is sequestered. LOL! McCain you old snake.
Posted by: dogsncats2 | September 8, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Obama is showing himself to have feet of clay and so the Dems fearfully lie in wait to Quayle-ize Gov. Palin. I doubt that Palin will misspeak near as bad as “57 states” or “Kentucky not near Illiois” or “one Jerusalem, two Jerusalems”.
Posted by: JimF | September 8, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are private institutions. The “backed by tax payers” guarantees are much the same guarantees given to banks and other financial institutions. Claiming or suggesting Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are government institutions is like claiming WaMu Bank is a government institution.
With record numbers of home foreclosures and record numbers of unemployment, we need a presidential administration that understands the basic working of such influential institutions as Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
Posted by: Sue Ellen | September 8, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
disambiguates
If you watched Keith Olbermann interview Obama Monday night you would have heard exactly what happened and how he proposes to fix it.
Posted by: Sad but Hopeful | September 8, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
A few here are saying this is only one gaffe while Obama has made many. Let’s look at facts. Obama has been in the mainstream public eye for over a year. Palin has been for less than two weeks. So yeah, he has made more. So has McCain. So has every politician out there in the mainstream. The key is what does it say about the candidate and where he or she stands. I can tell you Obama saying there are 57 states is indeed a gaffe. He knows there are 50. Palin on the other hand does not really understand this Fannie Mae business. But most American’s don’t really care because many don’t understand either.
Posted by: ModDem | September 8, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
can anyone really say obama is the best the choice the dems could have made is he the most expeianced?i should think not hillary was their best one but palosi and her crew didnt pick her lol every ? you have about sarah ask it about obama you will see shes the best choice on both tickets
Posted by: david reyes | September 8, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Palin is a non-factor. Notwithstanding the recent hype, she will become insignificant to U.S. national politics.
Posted by: Randy in Dallas | September 8, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
hey brian-k
she doesnt need to know anything other than she sent her son there to serve. How many people who actually voted to let G.W. do what he wanted to (aka abdicated their constitutional duty to declare war or not)
actually bet their blood on it?
Im not for her but, i could have gone and chose NOT TO GO ….she clearly knows more than I do if its ok to send American boys there no?
Posted by: alfa | September 8, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
ARE YOU BETTER OFF TODAY THAN YOU WERE 8 YEARS AGO???? That is the deal… and I don’t know one family who is. The McCain Campaign is trying to fool American voters by simply repackaging their usual brand. Campaign manager Rick Davis said on Fox News with Chris Wallace that the McCain campaign would not be about issues. NOT BE ABOUT ISSUES??? Houston we have a problem. I GUESS THINGS ARE GOING GOOD FOR SOME FOLKS AT THE TOP OF THE GOT LUCKY CHAIN. Obviously, instead of offering solutions, this campaign would rather hand out pretty gift packages expecting you won’t bother to pull the ribbon, peel back the shiny foil and LOOK INSIDE – because when you do it will be the same old and tired worn out GOP after all. Ask yourself, are YOU better off today than 8 years ago?
Posted by: Libratine | September 8, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
libratine—very true the only people taht are better off with the republican policies is the rich and very rich, i know of no one that is working class or poor taht is better off .
Posted by: tom | September 8, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
mmonroeliveson:
Do we think now that Palin can explain China’s place in the Fannie/Freddie bailout without peeking? Or without Lieberman whispering the answers in her ear? I would *doubt* she was thinking of this in her response, otherwise I would think she would mention it. I could be wrong.
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Maybe we are expecting a lot from her. We should. As so many people have already said, McCain and Obama proved themselves to the millions of people who voted for them, and Biden is pretty well known.
If McCain is going to trot out an unknown at the eleventh hour, people are right to expect her to prove herself in some way. A good way for her to do that this late in the game would be through some pretty impressive (and unscripted) knowledge of the issues.
The thought of putting her next in line for control of our nuclear arsenal without some sort of intellectual due diligence should terrify anyone.
Posted by: sigh | September 8, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Comeon you guys – You are the one ones faking it- surely you don’t understand Palin cause she is the one that understands Fannie & Freddie get a book!!
Posted by: Knight | September 8, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
“John McCain supports the steps needed to keep the financial troubles at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from further squeezing American families, and endorses the idea that management and shareholders should not benefit from government backing,” and we told Sarah please don’t say anything on your own until you know all the talking points!
Posted by: tje | September 8, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
This is one of the 18 million cracks that we’re starting to see..only it’s not in the “glass ceiling”..it’s in the facade the Regressive Party has tried to build around Ms. Palin! As time goes by, we’ll quickly begin to see her without the rose-colored glasses the McBush campaign has handed out..and take note that she’s about as far right as you can be, with the worst that could exemplify..a separatist, the list of books she tried to have banned included Huckleberry Fin and My Friend Flicka, not to mention about every literary classic there is! Sick, sick!!
Shades of Fahrenheit 451, for crying out loud! Three cheers for the librarian who stood up to Caribou Barbie! As a patriotic American woman, I acknowledge her the right to believe as she wishes..but I’ll damn sure never let the likes of her impose their grotesque creed upon me or mine! She’s the living definition of a fanatic, and in spite of the campaign and the party’s attempts to closet this stuff (they’re really good at closeting things..and people), it will quickly work its way out.
For that element of our population that agrees with her..I trust we’ll see you all emigrating to Alaska after Obama’s Nov 4 election. Suits me fine..for as you know, if you can’t be part of the solution in this world..then you’re part of the problem. We’ll wave from the border as you go. As to her mom voting for Obama..just desserts, when you consider that Ernestine (snort) Palin refused to endorse or vote for her step-mother-in-law when she ran for mayor..because she’s pro-choice.
Posted by: EisenhowerKid | September 8, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Amazing…just amazing. Palin was the mayor of a city the size of one or two large apartment complexes, which was debt free when she was elected, and 23 million dollars in debt when she left. For 18 months she has been governor of a state with a population smaller than many cities and/or counties in the lower forty-eight. She performed a speech at the GOP Convention that contained at least three verifiable lies and only required her to read off a teleprompter. She has a BA in journalism, but has never had anything published. She cannot command the Nat’l Guard except in cases of emergencies within the State–like fighting fires and such. (I believe she’s called them out twice for fires).
And this is the person that Republicans think would make a Jim Dandy president, in the event the 72 year-old McCain bites the big one. I’m flat-out stunned by the stupidity.
Posted by: muldoon | September 8, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
She is soo intelligent and what she don’t know now she will learn very fast. She is an idealist true but has her heart in the country and not her own ambitist place in history -not yet nyhow-Obama just wants to make history. and taking advantage of Americans gullibility to make it in the books. Not now- too much at stake.
Posted by: mk | September 8, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
George McCain/Sarah Cheney.
Four more years of the same.
Posted by: J | September 8, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
She is so perfect you have to make up lies and misconstrue the truth.because there is nothing real that is negative out there to charge her with. You guys shoud sit back and see how you sound
Posted by: mk | September 8, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
She is just plane doesn’t know. This country has losts its mind. She is a trogin horse.
Posted by: Cassandra | September 9, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Lier, Lie a minute form Palin and McCain.
Posted by: Cassandra | September 9, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Sarah said that when they wanted to give her the money for the ‘BRIDGE TO NOWHERE’ she said no thanks. But that was not the truth.
The truth is that she was for the “Bridge to nowhere.” She help pushed for the funds from the U S Federal Government for the “Bridge to nowhere.” Then Only AFTER she received the Money for that “Bridge to Nowhere” and everyone around the country found out about it from a news report that aired on the news around the country about the “Bridge to Nowhere” and it was posted in print in the newspapers and on line news with people complaining about it from all around the country, did Sarah finally stop the project. But she never returned the money. Has a proper investigation been done to find out where the money went and into what government projects?
Did any of the money go to the education in the public schools across Alaska? Did the money go to the Department of transportation for the repairing roads and bridges that are failing across Alaska? Since she took the money, and now claims that she put it to use where it was needed, Where is the accountability? I want to see a real government AUDIT done by the IRS to find where the money went.
Posted by: mere | September 9, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
After all, It was FEDERAL TAXPAYERS MONEY. And I, as a taxpayer, want to know where my money went.
Posted by: mere | September 9, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Palin is a non-factor…yeah sure, that is why Obama is asking Oprah and Hilliary to protect him from big bad Palin and this is also why the Obamabots have been attacking this woman thru her looks and kids and saying she isn’t qualified when she is 10 times more qualified….talk about sexist!! Geez,
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
wake up America
the same way we were lied to about weapons of mass destruction, this is the same way we are being lied to by the Bush McCain campaign saying they are for change. Eight years is enough. McCain does not know about the economy. he does not get it. He voted with Bush 90% of the time. Why would you risk 4 more years. Wake up America, Vote Obama/Biden
Posted by: Dee | September 9, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Sarah Palin has no idea what she’s talking about. She does not understand one of the greatest housing crises in American history. Is pretending she’s smarter than she is going to protect your interests?
If you vote for her and McCain after 8 years of Bush, you DESERVE to lose your house to the bank, to lose your job to foreign markets, and to lose your children’s futures to substandard schools and unaffordable college tuitions because that is exactly what you will be voting for.
Posted by: Di | September 9, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
The “Bridge To Nowhere” is Obama’s down fall because Alaskans and the Congress &Senate know the truth and Sarah is right. She did support it until she learned the rest of the story and had the guts to admit she made a mistake and corrected it.
Posted by: mk | September 9, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
What a hoot, more concern about what Palin says about the issue than the issue itself. Want a real story, look at who the players were behind the fallout and no wonder the media isn’t talking about that. Could it be due to all the Democrat ties…hmmmm?
Posted by: Kenny Jones | September 9, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
McCain’s VP pick shows who’s really willing to lose a war to win an election.
Posted by: Mark | September 9, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Sarah Palin is my hero -she has walked in my shoes and felt my heartaches and joys and knows the needs of the heart of this country. She is just the great women behind a great man (behind every great man is a women and he has two. How can He go wrong??
Posted by: mk | September 9, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Wow, next she may mispell a popular vegetable and make the real headlines. Why did we not hear about the interview with Bama on Fox? When asked why Bush has collected more revenue through tax cut than Clinton Obama said….now listen carefully….he said…. ready…”Thats because the economy has grown so much”, now you bama kool aide drinkers explain that!! And here has has been trying to make us believe we are in the great depression!!
Posted by: David of Baltimore | September 9, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Di got it right: Sarah Palin simply doesn’t know what she’s talking about. It appears that if we elect McCain, we’ll have a president who admits he knows hardly anything about economics, and a VP who knows even less. Way to go. U-S-A.
Posted by: Mark O | September 9, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Di got it right: Sarah Palin simply doesn’t know what she’s talking about. It appears that if we elect McCain, we’ll have a president who admits he knows hardly anything about economics, and a VP who knows even less. Way to go. U-S-A.
Posted by: Mark O | September 9, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
She’s exactly right. The GSE’s were privatizing profits and socializing the costs/risks of failure. That asymmetric profile IS too expensive – for all of us. The Fed, and ultimately the US taxpayer, has been forced to open up its balance sheet (and wallet) to stabilize the situation.
Bottom line: none of the candidates are particularly strong on economic matters. They will have full teams of PhD’s and policy wonks to analyze issues and make recommendations. McCain’s instincts with regard to lower taxes is fundamentally correct, however. There is a growing body of empirical evidence which proves that lower taxes are constructive for the economy; some, like reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains are positive even if they are paid for with debt. The conclusions of the bipartisan studies should serve to de-politicize said tax cuts. But Dems continue to paint this as a rich-poor issue, and it really isn’t. The Dems are unequivocally on the wrong side of on most economic matters. This is not to say Republicans are blameless, but their starting point for economic growth policy is inherently superior.
Posted by: IndependentInPA | September 9, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Stupid is as stupid says…she’s a flake and will be old news next week. Another rightwing whack job who can spew partisan hatred but has no clue what goes on in normal peoples lives.
Posted by: NC4OB08 | September 9, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Do you think she meant mortgage rates are likely to fall up to 2 percentage points as a result of the government stepping in? A win for everyone, including the “taxpayers”. In this case, it seems maybe the reporter is confused rather than the candidate.
Posted by: Stunned | September 9, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
McCain could have picked Tom Ridge, former governor and former Secretary of Homeland Security. Instead he picks Palin. That’s just shameful and gives a clear shapshot into the soul of a mud sucking politician who will say or do anything to get elected.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 9, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
McCain has surrounded himself with lobbyists and they are pulling his strings. McCain is a puppet for the lobbyists. McCain learned the business as a puppet for Charles Keating during the Savings and Loan crisis, pandering for Arizona land developers and his father in law. A man of honor? Not at all.. just another greedy politician slopping his way through the United States Treasury.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | September 9, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
The problem with all of this is we just don’t know what she was trying to say and there’s no way of finding out as she doesn’t take questions at her public gatherings. Sarah – do a press conference or two for goodness sake! You have a degree in journalism – what’s the problem? Prove you’re ready. If not, the doubts will linger.
Posted by: Mark O | September 9, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
“The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers”
Palin’s statement is only confusing to those seeking to create confusion.
The two government sponsored entities did get too big and took on too much risk.
Due to the collapse of the housing market and the resulting losses in their security portfolios this lead to a need for recapitalization.
The private sector was not prepared to put in more money after the Government announced its lifeline.
To ensure mortgage market stability, avoid harm to bond holders and allow for continued refinancing of the American trade deficit with China, Government intervention was required to stabilize the situation.
This intervention will likely cost taxpayers billions of dollars.
Instead of giving a long statement, Palin gave a clear and concise comment about:
- the problem;
- who will bear the cost to stabilize the situation; and
- an outline of a potential solution.
Palin’s statement is one that most people can readily understand and high lights the key elements of the situation.
In response, Mr. Tapper attempts to claims the statement is the “first gaffe,” which it is not.
Why? Because the claim is premised on a faulty conclusion.
Tapper states:
“Too expensive to the taxpayers?”
“They’re private entities.”
No, they are not private entities.
They are Government sponsored entities.
This is something entirely different.
It means, among other things that the US Government (the taxpayers) are the ultimate guarantors of the liabilities of these entities.
Given this faulty leap in assumptions, Mr. Tapper’s “gaffe” claim must be rejected out of hand.
Posted by: Frank | September 9, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
No gaffe, just an attempt at “gotcha” journalism.
Why? Because the claim is based on the flawed observation:
“Too expensive to the taxpayers?”
They’re private entities.
No, they are not.
They are government sponsored entities, something entirely different.
Simply put it means the taxpayers are the sponsor of these entities and so ultimately liable.
Palin’s statement in fact shows an astute understanding of the underlying reality.
Posted by: Frank | September 9, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Palin has been sequestered from the media for how long? The media is what keeps our Democracy in check. She is clearly unprepared to comment on any issue outside of Alaskan Independence and snow mobiles.
McCain has taken us all for idiots that won’t recognize the pandering going on. I want a vice president who can step in and be an educated leader–not someone I can have a cup of coffee with. This ticket lost my vote.
Posted by: David in NC | September 9, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Simple way to fix this for Palin:
Get out and start doing interviews. As much as her voice and manner are like nails on a chalkboard to me..and I would be happy if I never heard her mean, snide tone ever again…she’s got to get out and do interviews. I’d love it if she got on Oprah, but I would feel bad for Oprah having to listen to Sarah for an hour…She is a small town mayor, a small state governor, and while she may be somewhat accomplished in local politics, she is in no way ready to be President. Wake UP. America is going down the tubes, can you please put down your partisan “goggles” and see her for what she really is? A Joke.
We need real leadership, and we need it FAST. Haven’t the past 8 years been enough punishment?
Vote with your brains, not your GOP Hats. Please.
Posted by: Lemon | September 9, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
So far, Palin has been incapable of speaking spontaneously, relying on and directly reading from written notes every time she speaks. She has been avoiding all interviews with the press, and no doubt, in the future will only permit interviews in which the questions have been screened in advance. (Are you listening, Mr. Gibson?) Yet according to McCain, she is ready to step in as President on day one. And they call Obama a celebrity…..
Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The economic platform put forth by McCain during the convention is a virtual carbon copy of the policies of the past 8 years under the Bush Administration. But then, McCain had already gone on record that he doesn’t know much about economics.
Posted by: labman57 | September 9, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
1. I AM BETTER OFF NOW THAT I WAS 8 YEARS AGO, PAID OFF MY CAR, REDUCED MY CREDIT CARDS, AND REDUCED THE MORTGAGE BALANCE ON A HOUSE I ACTUALLY PUT A DOWN PAYMENT ON , NOT LIKE THE HEAD IN THE SAND POORLY QUALIFIED 0 DOWN PEOPLE NOW LOSING THEIR HOMES. I AM ONE OF THE 98% OR HOMEOWNERS PAYING THEIR MORTGAGES ON TIME.
AS FAR AS JOBS GOING OUT OF THE COUNTRY,
WE
ALL LIKE TO SHOP AT TARGET INSTEAD OF BLOOMINGDALES!
Posted by: genny rigoli | September 9, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
We need to examine her ability to comprehend national and international policy. She currently knows squat about either. She’s not necessarily stupid, just extremely ignorant about 95% of what the VP job requires. I’m not even talking about experience–just vital knowledge necessary to make prudent, rational, sound decisions.
Serving on a city council and mayor of a small town are fine on your resume….if you’re running for state office. And a year and a half as governor of the state that is least typical of the rest of the country is of only marginal value.
She’s going to need over a year to be brought up to speed just to be competent in her job. Rove even admitted that her selection was a “political” decision” rather than a “governing” one, meaning that her job is simply to get McCain elected and then be quietly sequestered into a office for the next 4 years. McCain knows this, and this is why she is being shielded from the media. Every time she opens her mouth and says something that has not been scripted for her in advance, she shows her total lack of understanding about national and international affairs. Hell, she didn’t even know what the VP’s job entailed when she agreed to accept McCain’s invitation to join the ticket!
But frankly, lack of vital knowledge is only one small piece of the “we don’t want Palin in Washington” pie.
Posted by: labman57 | September 9, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Lab, no matter how the Obamabots spin it……Palin still remains far more qualified and experience than Obama. Ignoring this is only annoying more and more women voters.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
Fox news showed a whole lot of Palin’s old comments and interviews tonight…they showed one where she and her husband were sitting around their modest kitchen table discussing how they meet and what they believed and such…….the one thing that came flying across loud and clear…is that she is so normal and down to earth. She is actually a real person….and this is going to score big with indies.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Fox news showed a whole lot of Palin’s old comments and interviews tonight…they showed one where she and her husband were sitting around their modest kitchen table discussing how they meet and what they believed and such…….the one thing that came flying across loud and clear…is that she is so normal and down to earth. She is actually a real person….and this is going to score big with indies.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Wall Street Journal 9/08/08
Silver State Bank Is Closed; McCain’s Son Had Served as Director
BY DAVID ENRICH AND DAMIAN PALETTA
U.S. state and federal regulators on Friday shut down Silver State Bank, the latest in a series of bank failures.
Until recently, the son of Republican nominee Sen. John McCain sat on Silver State’s board and was a member of its three-person audit committee, responsible for overseeing the company’s financial condition.
Andrew McCain left the Henderson, Nev., bank July 26 after five months on the board, citing “personal reasons.”
Posted by: impaled | September 9, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am
She’s a know nothing idiot.
Certified.
Posted by: ANNA | September 9, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
Yeah, they are too big and too expensive to bail out this time and in the future. The long term best bet is to disolve the two companies into many entities and spread the risk over many entities. A few may fail over time but the majority will survive.
The participants in this meltdown should be put in jail and not a white collar criminal resort. Some hard time should discourage this behavior.
Posted by: itsborken | September 9, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
Are you SURE that’s not just TINA FEY, and ol’ Johnny Mac is playing a practical joke on America????
Posted by: Tina Fey! | September 9, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
It’s painfully obvious that Mrs. Palin had
no idea what she was talking about when she addressed the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac
question, and that she is completely unqualified to assume the Presidency if
McCain is elected (and God forbid) something should happen.
But she does fit the kind of Rovian demographic mindset they’re going for – she’s a gun-totin’ wilderness woman and
a Holy Roller as well!
Posted by: William Trent | September 9, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
our town just held a special census. we are now at a whopping 5,692 citizens. we have a great mayor, a real reformer. he helped us get a nice new road and a park and a sports complex just like sarah palin did for her town. well with one exception…were finished paying it off. anywho, i was wondering who we call in the McCain camp for ol’ mayor terry some kind of cabinet position. i mean if that’s all it takes.
Posted by: oasis | September 9, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am
William, I understood exactly what Palin meant…..I think it is just painfully obvious that Obamabots have no clue what Palin was talking about at the Freddy speech. Hint: she was saying that taxpayers should not be picking up the bill for Freddy (even though they donate alot of money directly to dems and indirectly via ACORN which Obama’s old community service stunt)bad decisions. Unfortunately, we are stuck bailing them out this time, but that we should take steps to protect taxpayers and not guarantee Freddy again. Get it? Probably not…..but, you should know Palin does.
Posted by: chattyway | September 9, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
The comment by Ms. Palin was – quite obviously – in regards to the fact that it us taxpayers who are being expected to buy out Fannie May and Freddie Mac (along with all of the folk who foolishly took out a mortgage under terms which guaranteed they would not be able to repay it. Quite frankly, those of us who actually pay the taxes are sick and tired of having to come to the aid of those are too lazy or too incompetent to manage their money effectively.
Unfortunately, bailing out both companies cannot be avoided due to the domino effect: if these companies are allowed to fail (as they rightfully should), other industries will be adversely and catastrophically affected. As such, as much as we hate bailing these companies out, there is no choice but to do so in order to protect the nation’s economy as a whole.
That does not mean that the incompetent personnel within these companies will be allowed to get away scot free. To the contrary, under the plan forwarded, those personnel will be out of their jobs and out of their severance pay and investments. This is a critical step, as it allows the incompetence which led to this mess to be replaced with personnel who will actually do the jobs properly.
Posted by: Michael Blackeley | September 9, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am
We really don’t know how capable she is because she has yet to speak without a script. What is funny (or sad) is how the Republicans accuse the Democrats of being “hysterical” and “sexist” everytime Palin is critized, yet at the Republican convention the speeches I saw were sarcastic, smarmy, and basically a hate-fest.
Posted by: DC | September 9, 2008, 4:42 am 4:42 am
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin are young and inexperienced. No job can prepare a person to be president, but how Obama and Palin rose to their positions shows their character.
Challenging incumbents can be a career-ender, but Palin blew the whistle on corruption in her party, and voters made her the youngest governor in Alaska’s history.
Obama got his start in Chicago, where politics are extremely liberal and who you know is everything. He launched his career in the home of former terrorist Bill Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground organization, which bombed the U.S. Capital. He sat in Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church for nearly 20 years and said nothing. Obama befriended political radicals to launch his political career. Only after entering national politics did he criticize Ayers and Wright.
The contrast between Palin and Obama is striking. Palin rocked the boat of her own party, evidence of courage and a solid moral foundation. Obama navigated the political waters of Chicago without a ripple; his moral compass points to the White House via the path of least resistance.
Tom
Posted by: janephilip | September 9, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am
We are getting a “new-clear” picture of this woman, and it isn’t pretty. Can the Republicans keep her sheltered for 60 days? She’s against the bridge after she was for it, then took the money anyway and buit a road to where the bridge was going to be. She hires lobbyists. She prays to to convert gays. Her church prays for Armageddon. She must never be allowed near the button.
Posted by: MikeO | September 9, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
Frank; frankly you took up so much space trying to defend the shocker-mom and the old fell-low, that you overlooked the fact that to woo you self-centered Reps. McPain made a last minute, desperation choice,that like his failure at most everything he has ever been involved in, was a poor choice for VP but you haters are eating it up. change in D.C. is what we need.
Posted by: chucky | September 9, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
I just finished reading the CNN article about her religion. And now I find the bashing picking up in this blog. America began with exiled believers and now any believer is fair game. It’s really sad to find that when these Godless wonders or elitist sects aren’t feeding on each other they make quick ridicule of those that seek to server a cause bigger than themselves. If it isn’t racism, sexism, homophobia, elitism, nationalism, it’s ethnic cleansing. Must we disregard the Bill of Rights during every election? This election may be another one that misses the opportunity for America to put civility first.
Posted by: MBell_TX | September 9, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am
Hey guys stop blaming others for your mistakes. your repubs were on power for 8years and having both chambers for 7 years you did nothing. Now you want to blame the clintons who left trillions $%surplus for you. You eat it all up shame on you.
Posted by: Stp, Paul | September 9, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am
Here is another example of the media bias. When Obama had stated that the Georian problem should be handled by the UN security coucil, did Obama not realize that Russia has veto power so it would be useless. The press did not say that was a gaffe even when he needed to clarify it twice over. On the other hand, the press jumps on Palin when she says that Freddie and Fannie are expensive to the taxpayers. This is true, but the press assumes she might not know that these are corporations backed by the US gov’t. Why can the press just treat each side the same way.
Posted by: Jack | September 9, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
Yes, too expensive for us taxpayers. Instead of holding them accountable for their mistakes, as well as holding the idiots who overspent on their homes accountable, the taxpayer has to bail them out. A federal takeover is NOT what I want to see. At least if it is going to happen, I want to see McCain/Palin replace who is administering it with someone accountable.
Spin, spin, spin here, trying to turn this into a gaffe.
Posted by: Michael | September 9, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
I hope Charlie Gibson asks her, ‘I know this is unscripted, Sarah sweetie, but I can’t help myself. Do you still believe Alaska should secede and become its own Country?’ Palin’s jaw hits the floor, a look of utter astonishment and shocked despair wrinkles her face. Then she becomes irate. ‘How dare you ask me a question you know McCain’s flunkies haven’t ‘trained’ me on! That’s not fair, Chuckie baby, and I don’t want to play anymore.’ She storms off the set crying ‘go to hell you sinner’.
Posted by: McPreciousVPWannabe | September 9, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
How come this is not covered by the media about Mr. Obama?
The involvement of convicted felon Tony Resko in the purchase of Obama’s$1,300,000 home.
His despicable association with his friend William Ayers, who was on the FBI’s Most Wanted list for over 10 terrorist attacks.
The fact that at age 25, Obama was backed by a radical Muslim activist close to the Saudi royal family when he applied to Harvard Law School.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 9, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Careful what you say about Palin. She will pray you into a Republican. There is a News story that claims her church prays homosexuals into heterosexuals. She also belonged to a church that speaks in tongues. So best be careful what you say about her as a bolt of lightening will fry your behind. Thinking now that she is just another religious nut job like the reverend Wright.
Posted by: Lawrence | September 9, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Sarah Palin is at the point where Barack Obama was in the beginning of his campaign although I believe she will get up to speed much quicker. The problem here is that neither she nor Barack are qualified to be either President or Vice President.
Hillary Clinton was qualified due to her self study and focused absorption of everything she could hear see or read because her was determined to be President. And now due to the Media’s biased coverage of this election and glorification of Barack Obama we are now in a mess with two disastrous tickets.
And let’s not forget the “gaff” or lie when Barack said that the Banking Committee was his committee when he was in Israel – when in fact he wasn’t even on the committee.
Posted by: Juli | September 9, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
So a WAR is “God’s will”?
This woman is a NUT !!!!!
Posted by: Debra | September 9, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
There must be a hell of a reason why mcCain/palin selected ABC news and Gibson for their firs interview, i have a gut felling that some type of deal was cut either by abc or gibson. i hope i am wrong, but gibson needs to be as tough on her as he was on obama, but i look for some very cookie like question that an idiot could answer
Posted by: john pinter | September 9, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
Di, you obviously do not know what you are talking about. Have you read the post from Michael Blackeley? That is the truth. Most people in the mortgage business know that it was the Clintons and their administration who are really to blame for this mess. So if someone needs to do hard time, like one person has said on this blog, you better start with your beloved Clintons.
Why is it that all of you dems criticize her for not doing interviews. She will be doing one and I’ll bet she won’t be stumbling over every question like Obama did in his interview with George this past Sunday. Why hasn’t the media said anything about that? Why haven’t they said anything about his ties with Ayers? Jake Trapper, when you point out mistakes, you should make sure it was in fact a mistake, and not just the way you took it.
Posted by: ohiogirl | September 9, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Palin does not know Fannie and Freddie from Disneyworld, but she eats Mooseburgers and was runner up in a beauty pageant which qualified her for mayor in Alaska. She doesn’t know anything about Foreign Policy, but she knows how to fire someone when they do not do what she says. She will reverse Ro v Wade, but at least her 17 year old daughter had the right to choose. Overnight she became an unwed teen to an engaged teen with no ring. She is ready to be president, she played basketball, she lied about the bridge to Nowhere and lying is key to McCains whole campaign. Lie and repeat the lie until America believes it. NOT THIS TIME !!!!
Posted by: Woman For Change | September 9, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
LET’S GET PALIN! BUT NOT ON THIS HOPEFUL GAFF.
Sarah told it RIGHT!
Too expensive, but necessary bailout.
Never again!
Bust them up like the Little Bells!
Monitor smaller Mae’s and Mac’s.
Tighter control, better results.
IS SARAH PALIN GREAT AND GREATER OR WHAT
R e s i s t a n c e i s f u t i l e
MCCAIN/PALIN 2008
Change We Can Trust
Posted by: Concerned | September 9, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
OMG! Not only do we have John McCain who admitted to the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board that he doesn’t really understand our economy but he picks a vp running mate who proves that she probably knows even less than he does. Palin’s statement,….. “The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers. The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”…., shows us just how uninformed she is. Even a novice investor in the stock market knows better than to make an irresponsible statement like that. Why or why didn’t McCain pick Romney? At least everyone knew that Romney understands our economy.
Posted by: Philbgood | September 9, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Eat Your Hearts Out, Libs
MCCAIN/PALIN 2008
Change We Can Trust
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
Posted by: Concerned | September 9, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Information like this needs to be on the nightly news. People need to understand they aren’t voting for someone to pal around with. She could potentially end up running this country. I for one would like that to be someone with understanding of the economy and world affairs.
Posted by: Dawn | September 9, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Jake has become a lexicon for Palin’s comments. Did abcnews ever report that Obama received $123,000 from Fannie and Freddie? No wonder Obama camp understands the mortgage issue much better !!
Posted by: Nick | September 9, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
As a woman, this is so insulting. The Republicans are prancing her around, (just don’t talk!) The only thing we get to see is her convention speech because her knowledge of the national and international issues that will make a difference as to whether Americans keep their homes, their jobs, their savings, their grandchildren’s lives, is completely missing from her skill set. John McCain, you are displaying the most disgusting sexism I have seen in many years. Baby, I’ve come a LONG WAY and you won’t use me!
Posted by: Carla | September 9, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Irregardless of what the press says, or Obama-I am a 38 year old white woman who would have voted for Hillary-but will now vote for McCain -and the bottom line is because John McCain is simply more qualified to lead my country…especially while we are at war…I watched both conventions on PBS…and truly feel let down by the democratic King (or Queen) makers- you guys dropped the ball for women, and added insult to injury against women voters-by the way the most active voters in the last 30 years in the process-Hillary’s experience as a Senator was truly the only rival to McCain’s experience for me and most of the women I know are now planning on voting for McCain based more on HIS qualifications-and not on who his running mate is, when you comapre Presidential Candidate to Candidate Obama can;t even touch McCain- maybe the party should switch the ticket around and let Biden be at the top=then maybe they would have a chance…McCAIN 2008!
Posted by: KB | September 9, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Just remember that the race will be decided by a handful of battleground states with people who do not have much of an education. So it won’t matter if Palin is educated in financial, international and other important matters or not. As long as she knows how to say her lines, she will do fine with those idiotic voters. Just expect at least four more years of Bush like policies and worse. This nation is going to be changed beyond recognition in eight years by the Christian fundamentalists. Bear no doubt.
McBUSH/PALIN 08
Change We Will be Sorry.
Posted by: Ted M. Garza | September 9, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Just remember that the race will be decided by a handful of battleground states with people who do not have much of an education. So it won’t matter if Palin is educated in financial, international and other important matters or not. As long as she knows how to say her lines, she will do fine with those idiotic voters. Just expect at least four more years of Bush like policies and worse. This nation is going to be changed beyond recognition in eight years by the Christian fundamentalists. Bear no doubt.
McBUSH/PALIN 08
Change We Will be Sorry.
Posted by: Ted M. Garza | September 9, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
She also has refused to turn over 1100 emails in the ongoing Troopergate investigation which seems to be right out of the Bush and Rove playbook. At least they weren’t lost.
Posted by: bhciapol | September 9, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
The question is does Jake Tapper (author of this article) understand how Fannie & Freddie work? She was talking about both the current bailout, paid by taxpayers, and that the the US Government (see Taxpayer) bought back stock in these to companies to infuse capital and maintain their stock price. This was back in July. Could you Palin haters (and Tapper) just do a Google search to get some real facts?
And the lie about the list of books she wanted to have banned is a Fake. Most of the books weren’t even published at that time. Furthermore, FACTCHECK found that the list was copied and pasted from another story in Florida and verified the accusation was bogus.
Posted by: Tom Genin | September 9, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Let’s remember that Palin is a governor of a state with a population of only 670,000 people. Of those, only 85% speak English.
This means that there are thousands of mayors across the United States with much more power and responsibility than the governor of Alaska, a tiny state in terms of population.
Palin’s ignorance pn economic, financial, national, world matters, etc. does not surprise me. A hillbilly VP who could turn into president, in the likely event McBush dies or gets sick (quite possible due to his old age), is just what we needed to become a 2nd rate nation.
McCain / Palin 08
The politics of hell.
Posted by: Fred Kentfield | September 9, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Hi, Im 17 and my attention been focused on the presdential election. I’m so fustrated about it. It base on a racial, and gender vote. If you’re white you vote for white. If you’re a female you vote for the team republic. I’m disappointed in our democrated party. Yes some are upset Hillary didn’t win the nominee. But does that give you the right to change your party. No!……. I really think this election is mostly base on race issue. Not the issue! American is basing there decision for the president of the United States on thier ethnic background. It’s not fair to the right candidate for the position. It’s not fair to me, my peers, nor the rest of America. I’m tired of watching commercial talking badly about the other team. I want to see commercial about what you going to do for the country. I’m only 17 and I know the importance of electing a new party in the white house.The Republican party did nothing for America. But make things more difficult than they were. If I and most of my peers had the right to vote Obama will be in the whiite January. I tired of Foolish adults who don’t care about nothing but thierselves. Who haves a hangout on racism. Come on you guys it’s 2008. It been years we have overcome racism problems. It’s still more to come. Wake up and smell the coffee. American we be diverse forever. It’s time to make the past the past. Look forward to the future. I believe you’ll rather have a white female in office before you have a black male.America, America, America what can I whisper in your ear. To show you that this is a important election. Don’t base your vote of the color of the candidate skin.
I wish I was born a year earlier. So I can vote and make a difference.
PrincessD
Think about the future.
Posted by: PrincessD | September 9, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
This nation is going to be changed beyond recognition in eight years by the Christian fundamentalists. Bear no doubt.
…. Exactly! I just don’t want to hear women complain in 2-3 years that they no longer have the right to choose regarding pregnancy. If abstinance-only didn’t work in Palin’s house what makes her think it will work everywhere else?
Posted by: derrick Bohls | September 9, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
It amazes me how ignorant the coastlines are of middle America. Even most farmers have college degrees. When I read such blogs, about the ignorance of the “fly by states,” it only confirms just how ignorance and pompous arrogance is the personality of those who are dumb enough to live in the crowded cities along the coastlines. I have lived in both places and I will chose the “fly over states,” everytime. You see alot more kindness and less rudeness and attitude.
So those of you who use your “arrogance in place of perfectly good intelligence because it disagrees with you, remember where you get your food! We have been self sustaining for generations, have you?
Posted by: Kathleen | September 9, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
If a church believes a) homosexuality is a sin, b) God rescues sinners, and c) God answers prayer, why the feigned outrage when people pray for God to change homosexuals? Everyone remembers the Second Amendment, protecting the free exercise of religion. Religion is no johnny-come-lately on the world stage. If homosexuality is making new bids for social normalcy, it is bogus to pretend to be shocked that churches pray for their deliverance. Churches have been praying this prayer for almost 2000 years! Let’s not raise bigoted slander against Christians when they actually practice what they believe. If they didn’t pray for homosexuals, they would get slammed for being hypocrites. (Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.) Ignorance -> fear -> bigotry. Expand your minds, people.
Posted by: Concerned_Citizenry | September 9, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
It is clear that Palin is a tool for McCain campaign. Her lack of knowledge and expirence is irrelivant to McCain. If they get elected, he will relegate her into the backdrop of Washington where she use her Alaska conections to “DRILL BABY DRILL,” while recieving unlimited resources for her DS child. This is so obvious, I find it a waste of air to even argue these statements. The GOP’s hypocratic defense of her is pathetic and desperate.
Posted by: Lindsay | September 9, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
John McCain is wrong to ask us to put our trust in a Vice President that has not been tested on a national level just bucause of her social positions. He lost my vote!!!
Posted by: Carole | September 9, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
and the EXPERTS like Chris Dodd on Fannie and Freddie let this happen.
Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
In response to Tom Genin – your post could probably be misinterpreted by some as stating that the whole Palin/librarian issue was fake. So I would like to emphasize that in fact, if you read both Snopes and the FACTCHECK websites you will see that the ONLY thing they have debunked is one email with a list of specific books that she supposedly wanted to ban – but both sites still mention that the conversations about removing books DID occur and that the librarian was fired by Palin and rehired the next day – FACTCHECK claims this was just a “loyalty” check and not specifically about the books, but other major sources state the only reason the librarian was rehired was because the community went to bat for her. Personally, I don’t care WHICH books she supposedly wanted gone, I care that she was trying to (or trying to find out if she could – which says just as much) ban any books from the library to begin with.
Posted by: jennifer h | September 9, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Fannie and Freddie ARE NOT “ultimately backed up by the taxpayers”, as Tapper puts it. The U.S. government DOES NOT guarantee Fannie and Freddie’s obligations, nor does the U.S. government have any other obligation, direct or indirect, to contribute taxpayer funds to Fannie or Freddie.
Tapper falls prey to a common misconception here. The only mortgage-related entity backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government is GNMA, or Ginnie Mae. Both Fannie and Freddie are completely private.
Please, Jake, correct this. It gives Palin the benefit of a doubt where there should be none. Fannie and Freddie are not backed up by the U.S. government.
Posted by: Thomas C | September 9, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
I see many of the comments here reveal a complete misunderstanding of what a GSE (a “government sponsored entity”) is. They are NOT public entities, in any sense. They are not backed by taxpayer funds. The nature of the government’s sponsorship is limited to one very specific benefit conferred upon Fannie and Freddie: they are granted lower capital requirements than the government would otherwise require of a similarly situated financial institution. This is a benefit to Fannie and Freddie, but one that costs the taxpayers ZERO dollars.
Furthermore, to insist (as many here have) that the government’s decision to “bail out” Fannie and Freddie somehow means they were public entities, that completely nonsensical. Is Chrysler a public entity? The government bailed out Chrysler.
Palin’s comments revealed a stunning ignorance of the operations of Fannie and Freddie, and an ignorance of the housing market that is difficult to believe in a candidate for high office.
Posted by: Thomas C | September 9, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Let Sarah McCain speak for herself on what was said, not through campaign aides.
Republicans, Democrats, Greens, Independants, Liberals, Conservatives, Evangelicals, the peolpe of Wasilla, those living in Alaska, the lower 48…everyone (pretty much globally) want to know
- how she is versed on the economy
- her perspectives on the mortgage crisis
- her thoughts on the solutions that she (not McCain) might recommend for a future financial crisis
- the function(s) of the US Treasury
Please, avail her the total ability to express herself, breaking only to ask further questions to explain what she might say….much like a press conference.
Posted by: John S | September 9, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
What kind of support do the GSEs receive from Government?
The major support consists of the credit lines with the US Treasury. This, along with their histories — both were public institutions before they became privately owned — mark them as having a special claim for Government assistance in the event they ever get into financial trouble. As a result, investors consider the notes they issue and the mortgage securities they guarantee almost as good as securities issued by the Federal Government itself.
As a taxpayer, on the other hand, you have a cause for concern. The low borrowing costs of the GSEs is based on implicit Government backing for their $3+ trillion of debt and guarantees. When the GSEs have a financial disaster, the Government has to bail them out, and you and I are on the hook for the cost.
Posted by: Dave B | September 9, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Given more opportunities to speak off the cuff, Mrs. Palin would surely continue to exhibit the reasons why it is utterly insane to have here as a vice presidential candidate. I am sure, however, that the McCain campaign will keep her carefully leashed and muzzled until the election. Too bad. I think the American public would truly like to get to know this unpredicatable woman.
Posted by: DaveM | September 9, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how what she said was wrong. The government IS bailing them out, and what is the governments primary revenue source?. . . . taxpayers. The other option is to print more money which devalutes the dollar and still costs us. So let me ask. . . . . . . Exactly what is there about this that isn’t “too expensive to the taxpayers”??
Posted by: Dave B | September 9, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
This comment was made: “Could you Palin haters (and Tapper) just do a Google search to get some real facts?”
Now why would they wanna do that? Since Palin was announced as McCain’s VP choice the Far-Left crowd has gone off the deep end. Their ‘Chosen One’ now is in danger of not being elected and they don’t like it at all.
Posted by: gtessex | September 9, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Palin informed us at the GOP convention that “There is only one man in this
election who has ever really fought for you … in places where winning means
survival and defeat means death … and that man is John McCain..”. If memory serves, 4 years ago the only candidate who actually fought for us was John
Kerry and he was condemned for it. Cheney was too busy and W was safely tucked away in the Air National Guard (when he actually decided to show up). Will Americans ever see through this hypocrisy?
Posted by: Rob M | September 9, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Earth to Rob M. Bush & Kerry aren’t running this time. FYI, if you think anyone can fly a F-102A why don’t you give it a try!
Let’s hear all about Obama’s military career since we are not only voting for a president but also a CIC?
Posted by: gtessex | September 9, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Her talking points weren’t detailed enough this week.
Posted by: BMurphyNYC | September 9, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
I would guess she’s talking about the future of those two; ie. where do we go from here. At this juncture they are too expensive and too large for taxpayers to sustain.
Posted by: Rod | September 9, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
I would guess she was talking about the future of them; ie. where do we go from here. At this juncture they are too expensive and too large for taxpayers to sustain. So I think she was setting tings to answer: what will the next Admin. do?
Posted by: Rod | September 9, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
I would guess she was talking about the future of them; ie. where do we go from here. At this juncture they are too expensive and too large for taxpayers to sustain. So I think she was setting things up to answer: what will the next Admin. do?
Posted by: Rod | September 9, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
I would guess she was talking about the future of them; ie. where do we go from here. At this juncture they are too expensive and too large for taxpayers to sustain. So I think she was setting things up to answer: what will the next Admin. do?
Posted by: Rod | September 9, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
She was talking about the future of them: i.e. Assume the bail out; then what do we have NOW? Two very large and two very expensive entities on the back of the taxpayers; the current situation will be hard to sustain. So, the question becomes: where do we go from here? So one could argue she was setting things up to answer: what will the next Admin. do?
Posted by: Rod | September 9, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Fannie and Freddie were never private entities. Fannie is a relic of the New Deal and Freddie was chartered by Congress in 1970. When Fannie was partially privatized, and since Freddie’s inception, both entities have benefited from an implicit federal guarantee of their outstanding obligations. If they were just ‘private entities’ as Tapper claims, they never would have been able to establish a massive duopoly in the U.S. mortgage market. Only because of their ‘government sponsored entity’ status were they able to lower their borrowing costs below what real ‘private entities’ had to pay.
Posted by: mcg | September 9, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Palin has NO IDEA what the hell she’s talking about.
Even more worrying, she’s reading a script from McCain’s team. Obviously they are also studying hard with the latest edition of “ECONOMIC MELTDOWN & HOUSING CRISIS FOR COMPLETE TOTAL IDIOTS”
Posted by: Jane | September 9, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Confusion about economic policy is a central tenet of the McCain campaign – she was just being a supportive VP nominee.
Somebody tell me, when did asking a hockey mom to run the world’s most powerful nation become a good idea?
Posted by: nrdesieyes | September 9, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
I wouldn’t tie the bail out directly to bush… I think we have no other choice but to buy the bail out. If I remember correctly… hasn’t McCain campaigned against this? Either way, I didn’t find Palin’s slip of any consequence.
Personally I wish the bailout was put on hold for about year… drive down home prices. Living in a large metro it is difficult to find anything under a half million.
Posted by: Kris S | September 9, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Let’s ask if we can see her college transcripts and if she took any courses in economics and what her grades were, For that matter, how about McCain’s.
Posted by: bhciapol | September 9, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
You would’ve voted for an inexperienced president just to have Hillary as VP. Now you’re going to vote for two people who DO NOT share Mrs. Clinton’s values or stands on the issues at all? Mrs. Palin especially is a world away from Hillary in terms of experience and views.
Yes, McCain has experience but he is 72 years old and why would you want someone a heartbeat away from the presidency with no experience in foreign policy and economy? Someone he met only once or twice before he chose her? WHY?
Do you think the Republicans actually chose Palin because they respect women? NO! I wish you could see that they did this as a cynical, calculated ploy. You should actually be insulted that she was a token choice. McCain actually wanted Senator Lieberman but was not maverick enough to stand up to others in the party and say “I’m running with him anyway.”
Isn’t voting for McCain just cutting off your nose to spite your face? Or do you just care about gender and not the issues?
Posted by: Mary14 | September 9, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Of course she muffed it. She was chosen because of her extreme right wing religious nutcase orientation, not because she is smart or intelligent (which she is not). Dan Quayle #2 in the making.
Posted by: LawyerTom1 | September 9, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
THE WISDOM OF POGO and PALIN
PALIN (Tapper): “The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers.”
POGO (from the comics of yester-year): “We have met the enemy! and they are us.”
Well, Freddie and Fannie were certainly too big and precariously positioned to avoid the onslaught domino effects in the housing market.
When Freddie and Fannie don’t have the cash to backup the demands of their lender customers, then who’s left to pick up the tab? Both Freddie and Fannie gathered too many clients in a Cinderella world painted by their lobbyists. The taxpayers are the end users in this arrangement, so guess what?
Can we let ‘em sink? No — Too many banks across the US are financially dependent on them. We can’t endanger the stable mortgages held by responsible lenders. Do we send them to Federal receivership? Yes. Save what’s left of both, bolster the business, trim the fat and re-invent under scrutiny.
Yep — Too Big and too expensive for the taxpayer. We have met the enemy, and they are us.
Jake — Give it up. You ran this yesterday. The realities of what we have stepped in aren’t going to change overnight. And Pogo and Palin are on the same page.
Posted by: Citizen_Alerted | September 9, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Palin has no idea what is going on in the real world. She’s been out on the frontier for too long. She doesn’t realize that we’re bailing out Fannie and Freddie. Who knows what she’s thinking, ala Dan Quayle. As for the bailout, it wouldn’t be necessary if not for the deregulation imposed by the Republicans (Phil Gramm, McCains economic advisor).
Posted by: Dave | September 9, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Oh my God! I’ve come to the conclusion America IS that stupid. If they buy the Palin lies and the McCain..”I’m a maverick and I’m going to change Washington”..then why didn’t he stand up to the GOP about his real VP choice. Why? Because McCain wanted Lieberman, who speaking from someone who lives in CT. and didn’t vote for Joe., Lieberman is a traitor to the party period, and is out for himself just like McCain. McCain’s experience has been running for President for the past 10 years, MISSING 4 MONTHS of votes in Congress, and changes his opinion about his beliefs like the weather changes. Joe Lieberman will not make another election in CT., like the last by tricking people. If the media were doing their job and investigating Palin’s and McCain’s behavior there wouldn’t be a surge in the election. If Republican DE-regulations weren’t taken away from media ownership, we wouldn’t have had this Banking crime wrecking Home values in America, The GOP did that and the GOP allowed their buddies to go free for stealing period. More regulation is needed over Banking, not less..More regulation is needed in media too to stop making America stupid! . The GOP wants “less Government” to protect their own greedy buddies. Do people want more of the same. Will a person vote for “anyone” just because they run Republican? . We need a real Government that isn’t more of the same. Bush and Sara Palin are the same…except Bush really hates America, Palin uses it. Don’t buy the lies, go with change. Go with Obama, he’s the only REAL TRUTHFUL chance we have, really!! If America elects McCain, God help us all. There will be a depression and the GOP will blame that on the Democrats too and since the media dumbing down of America has been so successful, it’ll work too. America IS that dumb to allow the party that raped us financially to get another go at it. Shame on media for not stepping up, with some REAL investigations of this new comer or having the sense to push Obama instead of the same old crap. Stand up, ask the questins, Palin has NO RIGHT to privacy if she’s in public “proudly showing off her pregnant daughter”…shame on her.A party w/ values would have NOT chosen this woman and her pregnant daughter as Leaders of the America people. What happen to the party w. values anyway? This white Mom isn’t voing for more of the same. I just wish the rest of the Moms had a brain..McCain called his ex wife the “C” word, is that who you want to dictate what your daughter can and can’t do? Do you want a fanatic like Sara Palin in the whote house when McCain dies as he will of cancer> He’s had it 4 times, and he’s 70, wake up people, until they do..God help us..God help us if the GOP uses the stupidity “some American white women” or a “hockey or soccer Mom to decide who is President next… You can like her but that doesn’t make Palin qualified!
Posted by: ljlu765 | September 9, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Palin’s comments about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac show a complete lack of understanding of the mortgage markets of the United States. Yes, Americans should care about economic literacy of their leaders. If this isn’t a valid criticism of Palin I don’t know what is.
Posted by: Mark Martin | September 9, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Wow – I didn’t realize I stumbled on a hard core liberal Web site. I thought the fact that this was on ABC News would have implied it to be somewhat balanced. I happen to be pretty middle of the road. For starters, I like all 4 candidates and am glad we actually finally have some people of character to choose from. That said I think Tapper’s distortion of Palin’s comments is pretty extreme. Saying that it has gotten too expensive for taxpayers doesn’t imply a misunderstanding of how they operate…nor does it imply she doesn’t support the bailout. I support the bailout because the alternative is disastrous…but I’ll quickly follow it by saying that the bailout is too expensive – or at least way too risky – for taxpayers and we shouldn’t have ever been in the position for a bailout to be required in the first place. The economy at large has become way too dependent on these entities and way too much is at risk. And I’m quite certain I’m nowhere near as stupid as some people on here will have you believe Governor Palin is.
Posted by: Greg | September 9, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Palin is an awful strange character. She attends a church that speaks in tongues, believes Jews are being punished via terrorism, and that all gays can be turned straight. Not the mainstream.
Posted by: Smithington01 | September 9, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
["The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers. The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help."]
Not sure why this statement was confusing, as I concur with Gov. Palin. But here, see if this helps: The fact is, these institutions became inefficient (too big) and now taxpayers are going to have to foot this humongous bill (too expensive).
Gee whiz, ABC, is this the best news you can dig up on the candidates? I think this is lame compared to the “lipstick on a pig” comment by Obama today.
Forgive me, but isn’t that sorta like the pot calling the kettle black? [hey, the audience standing behind me just roared with laughter, like the folks behind Obama today, so I guess they knew exactly what I REALLY meant!] — winkie, wink
Posted by: Snow Whitehouse | September 9, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
“You would like to think that someone who is going to be vice president and conceivable president would know what Fannie and Freddie do,” said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. “These are huge institutions and they are absolutely central to our country’s mortgage debt. To not have a clue what they do doesn’t speak well for her, I’d say.”
Posted by: ziadora | September 10, 2008, 2:56 am 2:56 am
Wow,
Cramming for an economics final, a geography final, a history final, a political science final, a public relations final, a biological science final. A foreign relations final.
I almost feel sorry for her.
I said ALMOST.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 5:35 am 5:35 am
Ahem….this from the Heritage Foundation, a more reliable source on economic history…
Fannie and Freddie were never private entities. Fannie is a relic of the New Deal and Freddie was chartered by Congress in 1970. When Fannie was partially privatized, and since Freddie’s inception, both entities have benefited from an implicit federal guarantee of their outstanding obligations. If they were just ‘private entities’ as Tapper claims, they never would have been able to establish a massive duopoly in the U.S. mortgage market. Only because of their ‘government sponsored entity’ status were they able to lower their borrowing costs below what real ‘private entities’ had to pay.
So sorry to break it to you sir. But the ONLY one confused on this issue is you. Gov. Palin was RIGHT. Thank you for once again contributing to the media’s rush to judge Palin before actually ascertaining FACTS.
Posted by: Shawn Gillogly | September 10, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
It just goes to show that the McCain campaign can’t cram too many facts into someone’s head too quickly.
Posted by: Laura | September 10, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Yeah, that Fannie Mae thing Palin said was just devastatingly stupid. No wonder they won’t let her talk. The one time she does, she says something like that? Cripes, does “W” have a twin?
Posted by: Teri B. | September 10, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Note that the “Heritage Foundation” is a hard-line right-wing propaganda organization, and not exactly a credible source of unbiased information.
Posted by: Dan | September 10, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Jake -
Palin is right that they are too expensive NOW and IN THE PAST.
Despite the fact that they are “private” we all know they are actually Government Chartered.
There has always been an implicit Federal Backing. Because of this, the risk that Fannie and Freddie represent raise the borrowing cost of the Federal Government.
$5 Trillion in shaky liabilities that you are implicitly on the hook for will mean something in Bond Markets.
With $8 Trillion in Financed Government Debt, a few basis points of risk premium because of exposure to Fannie and Freddie costs the taxpayers BILLIONS in additional borrowing costs.
Palin was correct either way. The neophytes who do not understand the Bond Markets would never get this fact…
Now you know.
Posted by: Matt | September 10, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
We love Sarah here in Alaska. She truly is a reformer and has gone against the corruption in the political establishment. While we will miss her, our loss is the nation’s gain. She is a smart and articulate person. I have no doubt the nation will elect her as the next vice president. While the liberal left may criticize her for leading the Alaska National Guard, last I checked Sen. Obama has never led a military unit. Oops, I meant he had never led any unit. Please, him saying his leadership experience is leading his campaign. Everyone knows the campaign manager leads the campaign. I’ve never heard Sen McCain or Sarah say their leadership experience is leading their campaign. Sen Obama’s lack of executive experience will never get him elected president. Lov’in it in Alaska.
Posted by: alaskaisgreat | September 13, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Hey; does anyone remember the Republican( Taxpayers Bill of Rights) and do’nt say it was hijacked by the Dems because they had a Republican President and a Republican controled both the Senate and the Congress.
Posted by: Melvin Skaggs | September 15, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
After reading so much about this lady and watching a number of interviews with reputable channels such as CNN, I am flabbergasted. What are the Americans (at least Republican Party supporters) thinking? We don’t even nominate people like Sarah palin for municipal council elections, let alone federal ones. haven’t you learned electing one of this kind twice in a row.
Posted by: Neil Prasad | October 6, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
HELLO?! Although I know my way around, I am no economic expert but I could see there was something wrong (the water was receding before the tsunami, I guess.). When I would bring this up to people they would tell me to enjoy the ride, how prices in Florida were just too low for too long. I thought maybe I was worrying for nothing but I guess that nagging doubt was right after all. Better to listen to your gut then a expert who’s first solution is to buy more of the toxic debt nobody wants.
People were buying way over their head. Instead of a starter home, the young couple wanted the big house with a pool. It was hard NOT to sell a house. They got questionable loans & didn’t seem to care about the penalties even after explained to them. But how can the same exact model house be going up $10,000 a month with no sign of hitting the brakes? It was a literal run away train. The builders were giddy buying up lots & completely filling in blocks of vacant land within weeks (I still have many vacant, never occupied homes around my home for 15 years with tall grass). Where were the jobs? All the out of town agents have since moved on to fertile ground. They come, conquer & leave their footprints with no consequences. What about the people who actually live here? With all the experts we hire, nobody can COUNT the number of building permits & figure in how much more or less roads, services, drainage, schools, etc. are going to be needed for this growth. These ivy league school grads are full of stale air instead of any new ideas.
Our next President should have a YEARLY review with objectives & consequences, like we all have. RESUMES do matter but only the accomplishes count. Everyone can ask, “What have you done for me lately?” It’s about time the People of this great country get to say, “YOUR FIRED!” Let’s push our agenda…not theirs.
Posted by: Nancy | October 7, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Once again people talk on this without knowing what they are talking about.yes freddie and fannie are to big .Yes they should be smaller so we don’t have to worry about finacial meltdowns that we the people have to bail out for the sake of giving unqualified people morgatges they can’t pay
Posted by: George | November 9, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Hi all… I am new to baynet too.Of course, I quit reading and posting on the some blogs & forums. I won’t go into details becuase I am sure most of you know why…
it will take a little time to get use to this interface, but I think I can manage…
Posted by: Real Estate Search | March 12, 2009, 7:59 am 7:59 am
Today’s Wall street Journal contains an article titled “Piercing Some Common Tax Myths” that may be helpful to confused taxpayers trying to decipher the labyrinthine tax code between now and April 15:
Just when you think you’ve finally figured out your taxes, count on Congress to tweak the rules.
Keeping up with rapidly changing tax laws, phase-ins, phase-outs, regulations, revenue rulings and court decisions can be daunting even for veteran tax pros. Consider: The 2008 edition of CCH’s comprehensive federal tax-law service contained more than 67,500 pages, up from 40,500 pages in 1995.
“A lot of the tax law is really quite hard—and it can also be very counterintuitive,” says Mel Schwarz, a partner and director of tax legislative affairs at Grant Thornton LLP in Washington.
Small wonder that many tax myths and misperceptions have sprung up, as indicated in a recent survey by Harris Interactive for CCH CompleteTax, an online tax-preparation and electronic filing service. Among the fallacies: State sales taxes can no longer be deducted, and home sellers can take a capital-loss write-off when they sell their home at a loss.
The article goes on to answer some common questions about refunds, capital gains and losses on home sales, and economic-stimulus payments.
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Posted by: mustafa | March 16, 2010, 2:06 am 2:06 am