A Piggish Debate

You know, if Obama didn’t have a track record of condescension towards female opponents you might persuade me on this one.
But it’s become amply clear that beneath his usual cool facade Obama is an insecure, arrogant and prickly man who isn’t sure what to do when his party’s attempts to smear the opposition don’t result in withdrawl from the race.

You might want to include that Biden used a similar lipstick line earlier in the day…seems pretty calculated that they are suddenly using “lipstick” to describe negative things.

No rational person believes that Obama was referring to Palin. Jake makes an excellent point- if Obama was calling Palin a pig, then McCain was calling Clinton, and Romney a pig. If it was ok for Romney to be called a pig in a much more direct way- why would Palin be off limits? If she wants to play with the big dogs, she needs to learn to get as good as she gives.

“It seems to me we should have one rule.”
It doesn’t work that way. It’s called context. Obama’s remark followed too close on the heels of Palin’s remark. Context matters.
On the other hand, with our Fannies on fire, it’s no wonder our heads are catching.

Aren’t you and other serious journalists getting a little sick of the lies and pandering from the McCain campaign, Jake? And what does this tell us all about what kind of White House they would run?

And let’s not forget this wonderful John McCainism:
In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt.”
Stones. Glass houses.

Saying that the pig comment is sexist is a fake outrage. What I got when I heard it is a reference to Palin’s history of pork-barrelling politics, in which as a mayor of Wasilla, she hired a lobbyist to game congress for about 25 million dollars for a town of 5000 at the time. Her handwriting and initials are captured on a document that highlighted her success in bringing in pork money for Wasilla. As governor, Palin campaign for office in 2006 as a supporter for the Bridge to nowhere, and she is even captured on a photo proudly raising a Bridge to nowhere sweater. Also, Congress had nixed funding for the project in 2005, and when it was apparent that the Alaska congressional team couldn’t get more pork money from Congress, Palin finally stopped the Bridge to nowhere project. Finally, Palin led the public to believe she returned the pork money, with the phrase “thanks, but no thanks”, when in fact she kept all the money that was allocated, in excess of $200 million. As far as I am concerned, Governor Palin is the queen of pork-barrel politics, and this is what the pig reference is for. Corruption and misspending by government officials concerns citizens, and we must be able to use the language that people understand to refer to corrupt officials, whether they are male or female.

Doesn’t context matter, Jake?
If Hillary had made a now-famous lipstick joke a few days before McCain used the phrase, wouldn’t it be right to question if he was calling her a pig?
Things and politics do not exist in a vacuum, and you understand better than anyone that context matters.

Jake,
This is the equivalent of Palin uttering “You can put a suit on a monkey but it’s still a monkey”.
If that comment were made, you would be all over it.
Get real!

Women please don’t vote for Barack Obama:
OBAMA is NOT GREAT FOR WOMEN
Barack Obama has a history of being involved in bitter campaigns in which his female opponents are threatened with law suits and race baiting, sexist attacks on their characters.
1. In Chicago Obama ruined opponent Alice Palmer’s campaign for Illinois State Senator when he employed crony lawyers to claim signatures on her petition were falsified. Before this Alice Palmer was once Obama’s mentor and had actually aided him in his career. She did not support him during the DNC presidential primary. She supported Hillary Clinton and was later silenced by blacks in Chicago as being a traitor to the black community. I know I am a Chicagoan.
2. During the DNC primary Obama and his minions of Obamabots waged a nasty race baiting campaign against Hillary Clinton. They accused Hillary of “pimping out” her daughter Chelsea and called her a racist. Hillary lost the election. Obama did nothing to stop his followers from spreading rumors of Racism against HRC.
3. Now that Obama has passed over Hillary for the VP spot, He has the audacity to come after Sarah Palin’s experience and attacks her in his stump speeches even though she is not the Pres. Nominee but McCain is. His minions are calling Palin an unfit mother who was chosen by McCain for her attractive looks and youth.
Obama is NOT FOR WOMEN. HIS POLICIES MAY TELL YOU THAT BUT HIS ACTIONS SAY OTHERWISE.

This is Obama’s MO. He gave Hillary the bird and denied it and now he called Palin a pig and denied it. Barry, PUMA’s don’t forget!

I believe in calling a spade a spade.

Man, I have never encountered such a delusional group of posters as at this site. How much is the McCain campaign paying you all to write such tripe?

Not enough.

What isn’t part of ourselves doesn’t disturb us.
I wonder why the Republicons have all the fake outrage over pretending to believe they have been called pigs.

People please get a grip!!! I don’t know why precious Sarah Palin has to be treated with such kid gloves! If she cannot stand the heat, then she needs to get out of the kitchen!! I’m sure that will be interpreted as sexist and unfair to poor, pure, saintly Sarah!! I am SICK of everyone walking around on eggshells around her! She started this with her disgusting speech and countless insults towards Obama at the RNC, and I say don’t dish it out if you can’t take it pit bull with lipstick!!

It’s very clear that what Obama referred to as “pig” or “fish” was what he thinks are the same old policies and same old politics that McCain/Palin have been trying to package with lipstick or a piece of paper. Same old policies/ politics couched in the language of change — that’s the point the Obama campaign has been making for some time.
Same thing with McCain when he called Clinton’s health care proposal a pig in lipstick. He didn’t call Clinton a pig.
However, he did seem to suggest that Romney was a pig. Sounds like he owes Romney an apology.
Interstingly, Palin was being sexist when she described hockey moms as pit bulls in lipstick. Can women be sexist (against women)? Yes, of course. She owes all hockey moms who feel offended an apology.

SAD – the PUMAS are afraid of being called names

Jake Tapper,
Thank you for pointing out the truth. McCain is turning this election into a game.

Although many people have said that…considering the high-profile reaction to Palen saying it last week..it is highly offensive that Obama did it — calling a woman a pig.
Remember when Obama mocked Hillary and said, “Who does she think she is?…Annie Oakley?” And he wonders why he is losing.

realitycheck, Sarah has not been treated with “kid gloves” Obama has. There has been so many outright lies about Sarah that have been spread by you vicious Obama supporters it is beyond belief.Yet when the truth about Obama comes out, the people in the media suppress it or spin it. The truth is the more you know the truth about Obama the less you like him and the more you know the truth about Palin the more you like her. All I can say is keep spreading the lies and smears about Palin and the public will see through it will just like her even more.

Jake, I actually feel sorry for you sometimes to have to wade thru the slew of rotten garbage from the McCain camp.

JohnTX,
I’ve seen the video. After discussing something about the debates/Hillary, he pauses, then scratches his head with his middle finger. Classic.
He knew what he was doing.

If you read Obama’s WHOLE comment, it begins with “John McCain says he’s about change…” He does NOT reference Palin in his comment. He means John “I voted with President Bush 90% time” McCain trying to dress up his McSame old policies as change is like putting lipstick on a pig. Anyone who claims Obama meant Palin is a pig is being deliberately STUPID and is actually guilty themselves of making the inference.

There is no honor in lying.
John McCain is now a proven liar.
John McCain has no honor.

Sara—Please!!! Obama has been treated with kid gloves??? He has been run through the ringers since the day he announced–nightly in fact by Sean Hannity. On the other hand, if anyone DARES to try and ask Palin a question, they are accused by the McCain camp as being demeaning to her. Why doesn’t McCain just admit she is being “schooled” now and that’s why she’s unavailable to talk to take questions? The more I see and hear from her, the more I shudder to think she could be first in line for the Presidency if anything happened to McCain (if he wins the election). That should scare everyone in this country–that woman is in no way, shape or form ready to lead on day one!

Compared to the simply awful things Palin has been saying of Senator Obama, it’s laughable for them to twist his words and whine.
It’s outrageous what Palin has been getting away with!!
To all the Obama haters out there – you’re making this crap up because you want to win at all costs…be objective – he has been nothing but suprememly gracious and polite to every candidate and opponent in the race. Nice to a fault.
The McCainPalin lies have been simply outrageous. How they sleep at night I don’t know.

Obama would have been alright if Palin has not used the lipstick word as such a big part of her campaigning. Obama is an idiot if he thought he would get away with it, does he think he was being cute?
Why is he attacking Sarah Palin? She is a VP pick he should be going after McCain, he is a moron and he is undercutting himself.

Interesting! Republican sleaze merchants and agents of distortion are also crybabies and whiners! Who knew? Typical bully psychology.
LOL — can you say the words “backfire”?

Tapper:
Are you serious?
Your commentary at the end of the article reads EXACTLY like a democratic talking point.
Truly sad you are showing your true colors of being in the OBama tank the moment the race truly got close.
Sickening.

Jake, if you or anyone is actually reading these comments, you might want to link the initial story to this one. Drudge has this thing front and center and he’s rather conveniently chosen to link the story that doesn’t mention McCain’s use of the phrase.
Seems like you’d want to get the full story out there, even if he doesn’t.

Mary go back to your playground at your all-white prep school. Is trying to enter your wife in a topless beauty contest at a biker rally an example of McCain’s respect for women? Sadly a number of silly women are being fooled by McCain’s shiny new toy, but some of us who are still allied with Democratic issues are not fooled just because he throws a uterus our way.

There’s a difference, I believe, in the associations. McCain was referring to a Hillary plan. Obama was referring to Palin herself.
That’s a huge difference, in my opinion. I get what Obama was going for, but really — in the era of having to dance around race issues for Obama’s benefit, why isn’t it incumbent upon us to do the same for this? Unless, of course, that’s the point. Race matters, and gender doesn’t. Seems to me we’ve already been shown this lesson, over and over again.

It seems to me we should have one rule.
Actually there are two rules. Conservatives can do anything they want because they are inherently better. Everyone else has to follow the rules.
Jane Swift is an illustration as to why conservatives are inherently anti-American.

Mila, I take that you wouldn’t have done well in the contest.

You got to hand it to Obama, he is a new kind of politician. Extremely bad.

I now get it. McCain is running a kindergarten operation with intellectual zeros at the helm.
And from what I’ve gathered reading some of these posts, simpletons are falling for it left and right.
“Lipstick on a pig” is so old and so cliche, I couldn’t imagine anyone with no more than a seventh-grade education getting caught up in it.
To infer that Palin was the object of the sentiment is really buying, full tilt, into the McCain campaign’s cynicism.
What a poor excuse for a campaign, Senator McCain. A real shame. It’ll backfire because I do believe there are enough Americans out there with enough sense to see through all the BS.

Never mind, Sluggo, you made my point for me.

This Karl Rove guy is a genius. He has turned the election into “THE NEW AMERICAN IDOL”. He has replaced a tiresome, dried-out old candidate who is too confused to get the facts straight, and created tremendous buzz about a know-nothing right-wing Christian fundamentalist who won a beauty contest. Instead of looking at the horrible record of the last 8 nightmarish Bush years we now want to find out who is the sexiest, who has the best one liner put-downs? Hey Kids, while the the economy is going down the tubes, people are losing their homes and jobs, and respect for this country is at an all time low, lets have a Popularity Contest!! Its just like High School, wow, kids this is fun. The heck with boring political stuff, lets go for the cute gal with the smart mouth (her words also provided by Rove). Wake up kids, four years of McCain/Palin will leave you and your families far worse off than you are now. Can you afford to play these childish but potentially lethal games??

why is mccain defending child molesters? Would he rather that our children get molested or learn about inappropriate behavior? John S. McCain is disgusting, dirty old man.
Why is he for child molesters? Is that going to help him win a state or something? He would rather win a state than prevent children from getting molested.

We all know John Stewart is a great intellectual.

Palin comes on like some tough lady who can handle the big boys, so why is the entire campaign trying so hard to get the sympathy vote for her, as though she isn’t capable of standing on her own two feet?
She is going to make it harder for women to be taken seriously. She wants people to believe she is some kind of action figure, what she is in reality is a another snake oil salesperson. Very similar to George W. Bush.

SomeJoe, I think it is probably because these kind of attacks don’t work on the world stage. I don’t think anyone is going to be swayed by calling Putin sexist. Putin sure as hell isn’t going to back down because Palin’s a woman.
Obama has shown that he has the calm head necessary for international diplomacy. If you look at any of our greatest diplomats, you’ll notice they all have a disposition very similar to Obama’s. There is no flying off the handle. There is certainly no personal ttacks.
More than anything else, what we need most when dealing with the international community is respect. The world respects Obama. Hell, even the Prime Minister of Britain endorsed him.

Oh, for heaven’s sakes, get a grip, people. Obama’s sexist because he called a woman “sweetie”? Because he said, “lipstick on a pig?” (WHich might have been referring to the fact that Palin has been the reigning queen of pork? Or maybe not. Who knows?) Politics is a rough and tumble business–kinda like mud wrestling–with one really, really important exception: our lives and the lives of our children hang in the balance here. This is not about silly little trivialities, it’s about picking the smartest, toughest, most capable person to get us out of this damn mess that we’re in now.

Let me put this as simply as I possibly can: John McCain is pathetic.

Let’s admit one thing and move on–given the state of the race at this point in time, Obama’s words were very poorly chosen. Clearly, with Palin having stolen Obama’s mojo for the moment, his comment makes it look like he is bitter and vindictive, event if that was not his intent. It certainly does not help in his effort to reach out to women. Anyone seriously dispute that?

The worst thing that can happen to you in an election is to contest against a popular lady. Palin now is becoming very popular and Obama has to be careful. In Other European countries, many people know this as an idiomatic expression and he was in no way referring to Palin but just like Americans did not understand his pay grade answer, many Americans will not understand this context. Our country is rich and strong but I must say in terms of education, we are still very, very low. As the day goes by,it is becoming more possible that Mccain could win but Obama has to counter fight this smear and after coming out from a bitter struggle with Hillary Clinton where charges of sexism and racism rented the air, It becomes inceasingly visible why it is difficult to hit Palin. Mccain can stand behind Palin like a coward while Palin takes the swing on their opponenents and yet their opponenets cannot swing back. Why? Sexism. It sure sucks.

The McCain folks are playing the “sexist” card too often and in extremely silly situations. “Lipstick on a pig” is such a common phrase. They are indeed pathetic and I can understand why.
At the height of his campaign bounce, the best he can do is tie Obama?? Obama will be up 4-5 before the first debate. Despite his hateful ads, constant lies and hateful running mate, he’s still in the same place.

Palin’s Pig Pen
As Mayor of Wasilla
* Tax collection soared 38%
* Government expenditures increased 33%
* Spent more than $27 million in pork barrel
* Left town in $23 million in debt
* Remodeled office twice in six years
As Governor of Alaska
* Billed citizens to stay in her own home
* Supported bridge to nowhere
* Spent $450+ million in pork barrel in two years
* Sold plane to contributor at a loss

Why is Sarah Palin still hiding from the press? I know she’s scheduled an interview with legendary softballer Charlie Gibson sometime later this week, but that means she’s free to hide until then?
Hillary was up to speed and answered questions from Day 1. Why is it acceptable for Palin to go to school first?
You mean she’s STILL NOT READY?

McCain must be offering double points this week.
The republicans desperation is showing as their venom filled talons are out and scratching at anything they can.
Pig my a**.
People wake up; there’s 8 weeks left to the election.
When is McCain going to talk about the issues?
As for you dittoheads who continue to spout the party talking point that Obama doesn’t offer specifics, stop projecting. It’s your guy who’d rather divide the country than give specifics on how he’ll help US.
Obama’s plans are very well laid out and that’s what scares McCain.
He offers nothing but a talking head and more of the same crappy politics.
People what the heck is wrong with you..our President has been the worst enemy against America for the past eight years. He is to America what the CEO was to Enron.

Did Palin fire the govenor’s chef? No…she made her a “Constituent Relations assistant in Gov office(HUH) then to the state museum and now cooks for the Legislative lounge.Well I quess she actually didn’t fire her…..just gave her another job on the government payroll

This is a sad day for John McCain.
If this is all John McCain’s ministry of truth can come up with, then indeed–”it’s over,” as Peggy Noonan very unambiguously said.
How about some actual ISSUES, GOP? Why is our economy going down the tubes? How do you “win” an occupation?
No more “Whaaa, he called me a name”– especially when that is a flagrant distortion of what Obama said.

“By calling Gov. Palin a pig, Obama is once again showing how disrespectful he is to women who oppose him.”
And by thinking Obama was even talking about Palin, Republican voters once again show that they’re morons.
Remember when getting outraged over PC slights was something the loony left did? Those days are long gone, and now all we have are conservatives getting offended at the drop of a hat.
“Oh, when he said ‘putting lipstick on a pig’ it was a sexist slam on Palin! Oh, when he said McCain’s policies were ‘old’ he was being ageist!”
When did conservatives become such a bunch of whiny little children?

Mary, Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School and then went on to teach Constitutional Law.
Implying that he is a fool who didn’t deserve to go to Harvard is insulting.

Jackson, thanks for straightening that out. I know everyone was paying attention and now feels bad. Thanks again.

“A fool can be sent to Harvard by way of affirmative action, graduate and still remain a fool.”
And the son and grandson of admirals can get into the U.S. Naval Academy as a legacy, and still graduate 894th out of 899 cadets.
Republicans really do revel in their own stupidity.

And people say conservatives have run out of ideas?
Stay classy, GOP.
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Mr. Obamabot, you forgot to tell me that I am a racist.

You know… I actually worked for McCain for a short while in 92. It’s unfortunate that the modern GOP has reduced such a great man to such a pathetic state. Would of’s, could of’s and should of’s, but I think it’s fairly apparent that this one is over. When you start questioning the validity of common folk sayings the writing is on the wall.
Time to start working to keep them under 60 in the Senate.

” Please get educated before you Vote McCain/Palin 08″
Fixed!

“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”
– Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
Now THAT is insulting to women– and it’s not a lame-brained distortion of someone’s words. Does anyone know if the Clinton family or Janet Reno ever got an apology? They did deserve one.

What a sexist remark by Obama? How disgusting and shows what he really thinks of women.

Katie O, You have to go all the way back to 1998 to come up with something. You Obama supporters are really grasping at straws.

concerned in Ohio, you made me go to fox news to watch the interview, but it turns out you may have been scared by Obama’s performance. If Obama debates mccain the way he debates O’Reilly, he will win this election because there will be no time for Mccain to tell any story. Mccain does well when he is allowed to make a story out of any line but he wont have that chance on a debate.

Let’s try and get some facts straight and clear up misconceptions:
1. Obama did not attend Harvard through affirmative action. He didn’t even list his race as ‘African-American’ on his application. He was also the editor of Harvard Law Review, hardly a bastion of affirmative action.
2. Contrast that with John McCain who finished in the bottom 5 of his class at Annapolis. Do you think if he would have graduated if his grandfather wasn’t an admiral?
3. When Palin said the only difference between a hockey mom and a pit-bull is lipstick, wasn’t she in fact calling all hockey mom’s pit-bulls? ‘Oh, wait, that’s different.’
4. Isn’t sensitive-guy McCain the same person who claimed in 1999 that the reason Chelsea Clinton was so ugly was because Janet Reno was the father?
5. How can Palin claim to be a change agent when she actually hired a lobbyist to beg the federal government for money?
6. How about Palin’s bridge to nowhere? She never told congress ‘no thanks’ – because the offer was rescinded. However, she had no problem keeping the money for other ‘purposes’. If you’re wondering why we have record deficits, maybe you can have Govenor Palin cut you a check. Oh, wait, those are just for Alaskan constituents, not other Americans.

Man, the Republicans here are delusional.
November is going to hurt like hell for you people.

Obama and his camp are imploding…its very plain to see. I watched the interview with O’Reilly, and Obama was squirming all over the place!
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”

This is such a typically dishonest ploy for a Republican presidential campaign. If their side has to rely on phony “controversies” like this, combined with the equally phony histrionics of their supporters, who know that it’s all a dirty game, then they’ve demonstrated that they don’t have the honor or the honesty to be president. We’ve had eight years of uninterrupted B.S. from this party, and it’s time for the games to stop.

McCain said THE EXACT SAME THING last year. I swear to god the man thinks we are a nation of imbeciles. Give it a rest, and give us a break. And while you’re at it, give us your VP candidate so we can find out who she really is.
“As far as I know, she is the only one of four presidential candidates and vice presidential candidates who wears lipstick,” Swift said.
Yeah? Well, as far as we know she is the only one of four presidential candidates and vice presidential candidates who
a) has refused to answer a single question
b) is unable to campaign alone
c) cannot be further than 2 feet from her handlers
d) picks her interviewer when she finally speaks
e) is hiding behind her family and using them as distractions to keep the focus off the issues
f) lives in a bubble, “no press allowed”
Here’s another expression they won’t like: the american people will NOT buy a pig in a poke this time. Yeah, that’s what I said. We won’t buy a pig in a poke even if it IS wearing lipstick.
People are losing their jobs. Their healthcare. Their homes. Their LIVES.
Prove you care, McCain. Prove you still have some honor. Prove you put country first, not campaign.
Debate the issues that matter to the people. Tell us what you’re going to do for the people.
If Palin can’t stand the heat, she needs to get out of the kitchen. I am a woman, and I don’t know a single woman who thinks she needs “protection” or thinks she should be treated with kid gloves.
You’re a pitbull? Prove it – meet the press – or get lost.

I listened to Obama’s entire context in the “Pig” monologue, a couple of times. It was very carefully framed. The phrase “lipstick on a pig” is an old one, and he prefaced the punchline very skillfully. Just prior to delivering it, he almost let his excitement get ahead of him.
How can anyone this pathetic and cowardly be President of the United States?

When did the Republicans become such PC embracing, whiney babies??
McCain
Cuntry first! 00

This whole process is now depressing me. Sexist? Kindergarten? POW.
What about us? What about our jobs, the economy? I’m saddened by all the talking and fighting and bickering. We’re all being played like puppets. Stop arguing about lipstick and start thinking about our future. For all the talk about “crossing party lines”, the only thing each campaign has done is divide us further. We’re not going to move forward like this… so depressing, in what could be so exciting. Obama wouldn’t have made a sexist remark like that, because he has too much to lose. I’m surprised McCain put out that Kindergarten ad from his campaign. I expect it from 527′s, but not directly from a campaign. I think things are going to get worse on both ends though…

johnTX, You know how many people were lost during WWII? How many mis steps were made? Learn a little military history. Every war is fraught with mistakes.
The reality is if Obama had got his way the US and the world would be dealing with two terrorists Nations about have or with Nukes, Saddam’s Iraq and Iran. Not only that, both Iran and Iraq would be thumbing their nose at the “paper tiger” US.
Now when the US is on the verge of victory, Obama will not admit he was wrong and the surge was a success. No no no, Obama wants to declare defeat in Iraq, withdraw and let Al Qaeda declare victory. Al Qaeda would than be in a position to rise again in Iraq (and with access to all of Iraq’s oil reserves) have the opportunity and means to attack us again and attack us hard. All I can say, if Obama gets elected start building your bomb shelters.

That is a common phrase and I wouldn’t think one thing of it in most circumstances. The fact though that the comment comes about 1 week after
Palin’s pitbull/lipstick comment, and we all know Obama is an intelligent man with impeccable judgement, makes me believe he knew exactly what he was saying. If I give him the benefit of the doubt that he just wasn’t thinking clearly and forgot that comment would most likely be linked to Palin’s comment at the convention , that benefit of the doubt goes out the door when he uses another example pertaining to change about an old fish. Fish, maybe? Old fish, I think not. I think he knew exactly what he was saying- the pig in lipstick who’s running with the old fish. Is that offensive? The old fish part isn’t but when making a reference to a woman being a pig, absolutely.

I really Like Obama though…..I really like watching him dig a whole that he cannot climb out of. Everytime he opens his mouth, he drops in the Polls.
As much as he changes his mind on issues does anyone really think he could stand up to Russia, Iran, N.Korea, even Chavez???? They would laugh at him.For those of you that support him you better hope he does not get in, you will see the Down Fall Of America……

Seriously, at what point does the media begin to explain to voters that John McCain has a credibility problem?
In the past 2 weeks, a credibility chasm has opened up between these candidates. When exactly does that start to get reflected in their coverage? That one candidate is telling the truth and the other is telling utter whoppers?
You were tough on Al Gore for much less. Why exactly does John McCain get a pass?

Oh foxnewslady. Well, I think Palin’s minister would disagree with you on the whole Christianity being about LOVE thing since they believe that Jesus was a warrior who calls on people to die in wars. No really. Gave a nice big sermon about how Jesus was actually at war and had a “war mode” and everything.

Obama could not even handle Bill O’Reilly , how does he think he can stand up to Putin???

THANK GOD FINALLY SOMEONE IN THE MEDIA IS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS.
Please, I love this country and as a woman I’d love to see a woman go so far as to reach the white house. As an American first though, I know when to take a step back and look at Sarah Palin and know that she isn’t the right woman and further more than John McCain isn’t the right person for anything more than Wal-Mart greeter.

I am convinced that people are just getting more and more stupid with the passing of time. How quickly people have forgotten the disaster of the past 8 years – and they are signing up for more of the same! All I can say is – you reap what you sow. I wonder how many McCain/Palin supporters will admit voting for this duo four years from now when the economy has totally tanked? Their programs are not sustainable! Is anyone listening?

Sarah Palin is absolutely stunning, and right in line with my political views She’s a populist, a reformer, a conservative from working class roots (dad was an elementary school teacher), her husband’s a Yup’ik Eskimo with years of experience in environmentally sound oil extraction, she’s pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, a hockey-playing maverick of the female persuasion who’s articulate, drop-dead gorgeous, well spoken, even-tempered, and best of all where Joe Biden’s concerned, her nickname is “Barracuda”. She kicks ass and chews gum at the same time.
PUMAs like me will love her and she could bring Republican women voters out in droves for the first time in history. And since women make up 54% of the vote, well – that’s a wrap folks.
McCain-Palin 2008

Oh my God…are they serious? McCain says it and its ok…but Obama says it and he’s automatically refering Palin?? That’s ridiculous?!
I’ll be happy when November comes, Obama is elected and all this mess with McCain and Palin will be overwith….

Idiots. Obama was obviously comparing Palin to the lipstick, not the pig.

I agree Matt!

What does Palin care if Obama is fundamentally calling her pig? She already compared herself to a pit bull wtf mate?

I cant believe this, I cant believe the comments. Gov. Swift is an idiot. Obama did not call Palin a pig, he was just saying Mccain and Palin are the same as Bush, and anybody who tries to spin it in any other way is and idiot as well.
Also I hope NBC fires Elizabeth Hasselback for 1 saying those things about Michelle Obama and for 2 being an idiot

Swift is a dummy, she obviously doesn’t know that McCain talked about a Hillary bill using the same terminology – - lipstick on a pig.
HILLARY didn’t whine that it was sexism but it seems the new McCain/Palin tactic is to cry sexism at any criticism.
this is all so stupid from the woman who called herself a pitbull and a barracuda.

This just may be the biggest NON-STORY of my generation. REALLY?!?! Are we REALLY not going to talk about the REAL issues that matter in this election and talk about nonsense like this?
JAKE – PLEASE!!! I”M BEGGING YOU, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PLEASE STICK TO THE REAL ISSUES AND NOT THIS PHONY OUTRAGE OVER NONSENSE!!!

“This race is over and has been since the announcement of Palin as a running mate for McCain.”
Yep. As former McCain campaign manager Mike Murphy and former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan accidentally said on air last week, “it’s over.” McCain’s desperate pick of an unqualified gimmick VP was a pathetic gamble.
Enjoy the pathetic two point bounce from the Republican campaign, conservatives. It’s all downhill from here.

We can argue the merits of our candidates back and forth. We can make outlandish claims about the opponent. We can even get ugly with each other. What we can’t do is change the desperation that is the Obama campaign. This race is over and has been since the announcement of Palin as a running mate for McCain. Dems can kid themselves all they want but the fat lady is already tuned up and waiting for November. It is finished…
Posted by: Dan | Sep 9, 2008 11:10:10 PM
I TOTALLY AGREE!
MCCAIN/PALIN 08!
‘COUNTRY FIRST!’

UCFpoliguy, live the fantasy.

I see Nicole thinks quite a few people are idiots including a governor. Let me explain what is idiotic. Sticking to the ‘more of the same’ message (McSame) that your camp has been hurling since the beginning of the general election campaign even though it was never effective. What is more idiotic? Reacting to a hugely popular VP selection from your opponent by attacking that selection when you are running for President. President…PRESIDENT. Not Vice President, PRESIDENT. The Obama campaign desperately needs help from the Clintons on how to run a campaign but most likely shot itself in the foot by not selecting her as a running mate. Methinks she might not be too willing at this point to right his sinking ship. And it is sinking fast. It’s almost pitiful.

The first thing that came to my mind was that he was referring to Palin, but maybe I am probably not the best one to say since I am a McCain/Palin supporter. If Obama says he wasn’t referring to her, then I am for taking him at his word and moving on. All of the candidates are in overdrive and exhausted so I think all of us should cut them some slack on the minor stuff. I thinking spending days rehashing this silly comment is counter-productive. I think we all know that both sides don’t care for one another right now. Lets talk issues, can we please??

Thank you Lori, that is so right. Palin came out of the gate barking at Obama and camp, as well as the media. She referenced to herself as a pitbull, so why are the McCain camp trying so hard to make everything an attack against her. If she wants to play in a male dominated field, she can cry stop saying bad things about me. This is so Karl Rove politics. Obama has been trying very hard to keep this campiagn about the issues but McCain and camp want to make it about silly things like oh we have a hockey mom on our team. Its a double standard and its just stupid. Americans need to be smarter and not fall for it a 3rd time.

Video:
Watch John McCain use the phrase “lipstick on a pig,” just like Barack Obama did.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271557392/bctid1784628752

How desperate is Obama to resort to name calling?
Obama calling Gov. Palin a pig apparently is very funny to his dimwit supporters judging by the reaction from his audience, the same way they roared with approval when he flipped Hillary in the primary.
But, is this Presidential material?
Do we want to treat accomplished, intelligent women this way?

Obama and the Democrats want to tell Americans he is tough and can handle the good ol boys. The media has been lite on him in my opinion, if he cant handle it then he needs to get out of the kitchen. Now he calls Sarah Palin a pig. Obama is disgusting.

If McCain’s comment had been directed at pantsuits, it would have been an insult aimed at Hillary. Palin owns the lipstick symbol at this point, and the fact that Obama’s campaign had McCain’s old statement ready to go immediately means they knew exactly what they were doing. This is not good politics.

Let’s get REAL people!!!!!
Now I could see if this was the first time we ever heard this statement. Then I could say WoW that’s a low blow even as an OBAMA supporter.
But this is not the first time we heard the statement. It’s older than most of us. McCain has used it.
We all know what the statement means. It’s just like saying you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Or you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink. We’ve heard our parent’s use those sayings all the time. You know they weren’t calling people dogs and horses.
Let’s get real! Why is it okay for McCain and not for Obama. THe McCain camp is pulling for neg. stuff to say.

The Video tells the story, Obama is a punk.
America will decide.

Obama has come undone! He already has a reputation of sexism in his battle with Hillary Clinton. To even vaguely suggest that Palin is a pig is a major gaffe. Folks, Obama is over. So over. His desperation is oozing out all over. He is a whiner and a complainer. “Why can’t I just be President? I tried to act like one earlier in the summer.” Sorry pal, the country is starting to figure you out..and just in time.
Save your whining cowardly attacks for the Senate(which is where you are headed).
Go cry on Oprah’s couch, Obama! She is about the only one that cares.

As a women I’m offended by this! Outraged, how dare he call her a pig. It just isn’t right.

I just watched it. There’s no way he meant Palin! He was talking about policies being the same and McCain calling it something different.
It’s a common expression. People use it all the time in Washington. Obama has used it in speeches for months, LONG before Palin was even around.
Let’s not be stupid!

Hereby mark one of the most stupid political campaign remarks of the last 50 years. Breathtaking, incredible, predictable.
Obama just assured and confirmed a GOP win in 2008.

Independent ’08 … yes, I see the context of it… but if you TRULY don’t see that as a jab at Palin, then, I can’t help you. Look really really really deep down w/in you.
Body languages and smirks are a part of “just words”

Obama has definitely got the backing of the misogynistic wing of the Democratic Party. What a way to try to win. He maybe toast after this, and will have to spend the next 55 days with just explainin’ and explainin’ on his hands. I am sure that this will appeal to the Moveon Mafia crowd, though.

I have a question. McCain seems so proud that (before he started voting with Bush 90-95% of the time) he openly disagreed with and went against his party regularly.
If McCain thought the Republicans were wrong so often, why didn’t he switch parties or become an independent?

Perhaps if Obama could go longer than three syllables without referencing Palin (check Webster’s for desperation) it would be easier to believe he wasn’t attacking her.

Let’s admit one thing and move on–given the state of the race at this point in time, Obama’s words were very poorly chosen. Clearly, with Palin having stolen Obama’s mojo for the moment, his comment makes it look like he is bitter and vindictive, event if that was not his intent. It certainly does not help in his effort to reach out to women. Anyone seriously dispute that?
Posted by: NJH
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No, I don’t think it can be disputed that Obama used very poorly chosen words. They do sound condescending and degrading to Palin and make him look like a loser. My wife is furious by this and has called eight of her friends to let them hear about it. He certainly was off script and when he is he generally flounders. The aura is gone, the soaring rhetoric is revealed when he is speaking off the cuff. That is why he didn’t engage in Town Hall Meetings with McCain. He needs his prepared speeches to really impress and that is why he prefers large, impersonal settings. He does see himself as “the One” we all have been waiting for…..WRONG.

Any woman who votes for Barack Obama is insane.

“Also I find it very rude and sexist that you would refer to the women of the View as liberal hens. Now if someone were to say that about Sarah Palin you republicans would be totally offended and demanding an apology. again the double standard.”…….The reference to them as liberal would be factual and in no way sexist. Calling them hens? Sexist? Perhaps but also factual. And no I wouldn’t be offended and demanding an apology as I haven’t in this case either.

Hold yourself accountable to the voters. McCain MUST release his FULL Military Records and his Mental Health Record. Do not let the voters elect this man and find out later that critical information was withheld from them. His must be fully vetted. VET HIM NOW
Is John McCain Mentally Qualified to be President if he is suffering from PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)? He was a POW for nearly six years and his temperament is really bad. Does he get flashbacks? I am SCARED to have him making war decisions for our country. He may have a debt to payback. I thought you must be MENTALLY FIT to run our country. Why he have not released his Mental Health Records or his FULL Military Records? He MUST BE HIDING SOMETHING?

Okay, so now we can’t even use expressions? Well, we can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear (McCain/Palin), they’re all hat, no cattle (McCain/Palin), uglier than a mud fence, dumber than dirt, and finally, to McCain/Palin, DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YA WHERE THE GOOD LORD SPLIT YA!

WestCoastMessenger,
Wasn’t it Bush who cut funding for women seeking to file discrimination complaints via EEOC? Will the real mysoginist discriminators please stand up. (Bush/McCain/Puppet Palin take a bow to the applause of their lemmings).
Here’s one for the gipper..

McCain said the very same thing when talking about Hillary’s policies.
Why doesn’t everyone decide that they’re either both jerks or neither meant something by it. It doesn’t make sense to get mad at one and not the other.

Obama’s counterpunch is simple:
“Oh, I never meant to imply that Gov. Palin was a pig. She’s the lipstick. It’s John McCain that’s the same ol’ pig.”

Obama stated:
“The other side, suddenly, they’re saying ‘we’re for change too,’ ” Obama told the crowd. “You can put lipstick on a pig. It’s still a pig. You can wrap up an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It’s still going to stink after eight years. We’ve had enough.”
This is a direct reference to Gov. Palin and John McCain. Obama is stooping to new lows and it’s going to hurt him even more in the end. You can see that he is desparate now and is not being careful with his rhetoric. He lost the election today with that comment. I see more and more women of all races take offense with this remark.

Obama called Gov. Palin a pig, called McCain an ‘old fish’, mocked Gov. Palin the other day as a ‘moose hunter’…
Those 20 years in Rev. Wright hate ministry are coming back to Obama really fast!

All hail the moral superiority of the Republican party!
Good job feigning moral outrage guys!

Besides the pig insult by Obama, today Joe Biden introduced a State Senator in a rally and told him to stand up to applause.
The Senator was in a wheelchair. It’s on you tube
Obama/Biden is turning into a comedy team.

“Why when someone says pig, do the Republicans immediately associate that with Palin?”…….This feeble attempt at a ‘Ha Ha got you!’ is getting really old. Clearly anyone inferring a reference to Palin is inferring it from the lipstick portion of the statement. Gonna have to do better than that.

Dude,
How can I take someone seriously who calls themselves “Dumb and Dumber”. I’ll try, though. Obama is sly, a virtual adolescent. He used to pull the scratch the head with a middle finger trick to dis Hillary. He knows exactly what he’s doing at this stage of the game. If he’s presidential material then he knows what he said, and knows the impact. If he’s not presidential material, then he’s basically irresponsible with his choice of words. You decide.

White Women Moving to McCain/Palin
Much of the shift toward McCain stems from gains among white women, voters his team hoped to sway with the pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his vice presidential candidate. White women shifted from an eight-point pre-convention edge for Obama to a 12-point McCain advantage now.
In that respect, Palin seems to have done her job.

Never forget the depths the Republicans will sink to. They call their own candidate a pig. Despicable.

Wow… I can’t believe anyone would still come on this and try to lay into Obama AFTER what Jake Tapper of all people explained. I mean, this isn’t some random left-winger talking. I’ve supported McCain this whole election and I’ve remember his “pig” analogies and I understood them. To try and go after Obama like this just makes us conservatives look like hypocrites.

JAAACSOON, how dramatic. Obama will grow up and be a senior community organizer.

Hay look Elvis!!!
Don’t get distracted people. This is just more fake outrage to waste time and run out the clock. Republicans do not want to talk about things that matter.
The fact is, you should be able to walk up to Sarah and call her a whore to her face, god knows the Saudis, Putin, and Iran will. If she can’t take it from Obama, she is not ready to lead.
She came out swinging last week, so let’s stop the fake tears this week.

Okay I hope we don’t spend valuable time talking about pigs and lipsticks. Geez this election is going well below the gutter.

gill – the fact that you are unable to see the disastrous effects of the policies of the last 8 years, tells me that you like to live with your head in the sand – maybe that means you are an eternal optimist. I guess you haven’t lost any loved ones in Iraq, haven’t had to foreclose on your mortgage, lost your job, have had to live overseas where we are ridiculed by others, or lost any on your retirement funds; however, this is the reality for millions of Americans who are tired of waiting for Trickle Down economics to benefit them and who don’t dare ask what their sons and daughters died for, because the answers are too horrible to think about. I guess you are OK with our Constitutional rights being curtailed in the name of the War on Terror? That’s working, just like the War on Drugs, right?

There’s another thing about women… we don’t forget. Men and women both know this.

Forgive me, but isn’t that sorta like the pot calling the kettle black? [hey, the audience standing behind me just roared with laughter, like the folks behind Obama today, so I guess they knew exactly what I REALLY meant!] — winkie, wink

This is stupid. I have nothing else to say on the matter.

Look, look over there.
That’s it, that’s the sum of the GOP’s campaign. God help us.

Name, yes they are THAT stupid. The Republican Party has absolutely no respect for its own followers. They treat them like rubes that will believe anything.
There are two types of Republicans – millionaires and suckers.

If McCain and little miss Alaska can’t handle that remark, they really won’t be able to handle the job of leading the nation. They clearly are easily offended… and I don’t want people like that handling diplomacy with other nations. I mean, if they can’t figure out common American phrases… what happens when they have to deal with people who don’t speak our language? McCain and Palin are pathetic and none of their endless lies will change that very simple fact.

Hey Henry, make a list of the articles, degrees, etc. that Palin should release.
Short list isn’t it?
Maybe she should just do a couple of interviews, you think?

The fact that this is even a “story” — which is what the McCain camp wanted in the first place — just shows you how pathetic the media are in this country. The McCain camp has been lying in the most ridiculous, bald-faced fashion and the media REFUSES to call them on it. When Mark “Drudge Rules Our World” Halperin and Chris Wallace are claiming that Palin is just lying — over and over — and not getting called on it, you know something is wrong.

Lipstick, pit bulls, pigs. Who cares?!
Iraq. Abu Ghraib. Katrina. Scooter Libby. Torture. Trade Deficit. Job losses. Health care. Education reform. Valerie Plame. Darfur.
Put lipstick on that, McCain.

Excellent report on this nonsense.

Hillary supporters need to consider the importance of this election regarding her political future.
If McCain/Palin win, the chances are quite good that Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat nominee in 2012.
If Obama/Biden win, the incumbents will be the 2012 nominees.
No President Hillary Clinton…ever…
With thanks going to Obama/Biden…
Anybody But Obama…

You McCain/Palin people on here trying to twist this must be pentecostal, its like you’re speaking in tongues.

Why are you talking about McCain’s lies on your blog instead of on your network newscast?

These Republicans are very desperate. Putting Lipstick on a pig is a very, very, old expression. If they claim that Obama used it on Palin, then did McCain use it on Hillary. He called her proposal putting Lipstick on a pig.

As I read the comments posted here I became very concerned and a bit frightened as I realized that the people making all the ugly statements about the men and women running for the highest offices in our country are the very same people who will elect our next President and Vice President.
God help us and our country.

The lipstick comment on its own would be arguably innocuous but when you add the next line about the old fish the intent becomes obvious. To say differently is to be purposefully obtuse. Be serious.

Palin is just a package from Karl Rove and the Lobbyists. She cannot to the Press by herself. Is she ready or not.
A pity that they have to drag her and her family through this.

johns
see thats our point BNO only made that statement so you paid bloggers can insert the relevant stories on your blogs… they think they are too cute by half but its gotten old… Obama isnt soley entitled to the presidency!

i have no degree and i knew that term. Are people that stupid? do we need another Bush in the white house like if things aren’t bad enough.i personally do not need someone to tell me that if MCcains get in he will continue the same policies, because, spin all you want, it is the SAME party!!

Obama is too classy a guy to call either of these, admittedly sub-standard candidates, a pig. He knows well, as does most of the population, that the true pig is the Republican party and that was certainly his meaning.
However, if it’s true that “you are what you eat”, then perhaps one should consider the huge amount of Federal pork Mrs. Palin has been consuming up in Alaska!
While not a pig, this woman is something far worse: an extremist religious fanatic who has zero tolerance for differing ideas and zero experience with the rest of the world – 95% of the world’s population.
Palin has spent her entire life both geographically and philosophically isolated. She’s not ready to be a Governor, must less a VP or, god-forbid President.
Conclusion: Anyone who would allow his “controllers” to select this woman as a “pander-play” running mate has been thoroughly conditioned as a puppet for the powers that be. He is therefor certainly not fit to lead this country, much less change anything in Washington.
I predict that after the GOP loses this election, the name “Palin” will gradually return to being recognized firstly as one of those funny guys in the Monty Python troup.

Jake,
Our country has serious problems and this is all you can cover? What about education, health care, the economy, energy policy, the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanastan, a resurgent cold war. All of these topics and how the candidates will deal with them is what you should be covering.
You are letting the citizens of this country down by not forcing a real debate and helping to inform the electorate.
Yes that is hard, but that is your job. So get off your lazy rear end and do some real reporting. Stop just repeating what both candidates say and run it through a fact filter and an importance filter and help rais the level of the debate rather than resort to lazy least common denominator journalism.

“Take it easy people, this is politics, sometimes it gets ugly..vote for your interst.I really think this is will be the end of United states of being the leader of the world if they elect Mccain.”…….So lets say McCain cleverly drops in a racist term about Obama. Are you going to be the first on hand to say sometimes politics gets ugly? Somehow I doubt it.

The McCain campaign is just pathetic. No wonder they want this election to be about personalities and not the issues. I’m truly disgusted by John McCain and his full embrace of Bush/Cheney policies and Karl Rove tactics.

Patwal,
Had Hillary just made a joke that featured the word lipstick?
Context, context, context.

Mr. Obama,
Please talk to your followers, they re going to cost you the election.

Salvatore, and it was okay for the democrat elites to choose “personality” instead of “experience” right?
Don’t be silly…

Republicans have really mastered the art of victim politics. They play it better than the Democrats ever did.
I’d love it if some adults could take over the McCain campaign and we could talk some issues, but unfortunately the McCain campaign knows that Americans overwhelmingly oppose everything they want to do/continue doing to this country. That’s why we see bull like this come down the pipe daily.

Sluggo: McCain I am voting for him also. I would never give my vote to Obama. I hope the polls are correct and McCain’s poll numbers go up higher. Obama is too arrogant and thinks he is the president already. He lacks respect and he uses people for his own benefit. I can’t understand why Hillary campaigned for him knowing what Obama and Nancy did to her regarding the delegates in MI and FL. One thing is for sure Palin is a fighter and Obama and Nancy wouldn’t do that to her.

McCain/Palin = Feigned outrage by the same folks who lie about their records. They have successfully distracted the voters from what is really important, ie the economy, getting us out of Iraq, etc, etc.
Either that or these people are severely metaphorically challenged.

Don’t forget that McCain abandoned his first wife and married Cindy just 4 weeks later.
Talking and SEXIEST of all times

JohnS,
Did you just call John McCain sexy?
Log Cabin maybe?
(sorry, couldn’t resist that one.)

After studying the comments from Obama’s supporters it is eary to conclude that:
1) Obama has idiots for supporters.
2) Obama is himself an idiot.

–nice typo
Don’t forget that McCain abandoned his first wife and married Cindy just 4 weeks later.
Talking and SEXIST of all times

For someone who likes to think of himself as an informedThinkingvoter you really don’t seem to understand that a governor has ZERO ABILITY to do anything about pork barrel spending. You do understand that would be Congress that earmarks spending that is ultimately approved by the President or his veto must be overridden? Governors can’t ‘bring home the bacon’. Perhaps you aren’t really all that informed or maybe you just aren’t thinking.

Samantha
In the spirit of the obamabots mentor, “forgive them for the know not what they do!” The think they are doing us a favor when they have just been snakebit by an actual campaign tactic that we told them would come!

I’m a woman.
Since Obama and even McCain have used this lipstick on a pig saying in the past it clearly is not a slam on Palin just because she happened to talk about lipstick rather than policy at the convention. She didn’t write her speech anyway so what does it matter?
Now…if Obama had said you can put lipstick on a baracuda, but it is still a baracuda, you might have a case. LOL

Grow up- Obama is not a sexist and you know it. Sometimes I get the feeling that you love war, and also to be hugely in debt.
OBAMA/BIDEN ’08

Read about the candidates’ discussions of the issues and vote your conscience concerning the position of our country in security, economy, health, education, and diplomacy(standing in the world).
Ignore all jabs meant to distract your intelligent analysis of issues as written within the policy statements of each major candidate.
All else is partisan fun, or vehemence, but of no worth for intelligent voting.
Clear communication of policy is the requirement of solid candidacy.
Careful reading and questioning of these policies are the requirements of
a democracy’s voting public.

Oh…did the poor wittle Johnny and Sarwah get der feelings hurt? Oh poor wittle babies….Correct me if I’m wrong but does gov. PHALIN own the word lipstick or something? What is the problem here people? Are you so lame that you don’t know “a saying” when you hear it? It was funny! F U N N Y!!!Yes H U M O R!!!! Remember that?
For the first time I’m voting Democrat.

Back to the issues, even though, I feel NoBama did indeed refer to Palin in his “pig” statement.
Obama continues to say he wants to put a 25 to 28% Cap Gains tax on wealthier Americans. With America being in a recession, the best cure for getting out of the recession is investing. Most wealthier Americans have the funds to invest, however, with a high Cap Gains tax, they will be more reluctant to do so. Obama is hoping that by taxing wealthier Americans, taht this will trickle down to middle and lower class Americans so he wont have to raise thier taxes. This will not work. Once he starts to tax the wealthy Amerians so hard, they will quit investing and therefore, the country will stay in recession. This means, under the Obama economic plan, that the middle and lower class Americans will have their taxes increased after all.

Sluggo – The only Marxists I’ve witnessed lately are the ones in Washington and on Wall Street – who just did the biggest corporate welfare move in the history of the country. The government now controls Fannie Mae – and Frddie Mac, and I am pretty sure that we have a Republican as President. If you’re worried about Marxists, I suggest you call the White House.

Independent… you are DEFINITELY not funny. “For the first time I am voting Democrat”… okay… yeah right. Your accent is cute though, now run along and look for your mommy.

Wow. With the world watching we on the outside are just amazed out how STUPID Americans are to believe that a Republican administration now claiming itself to be CHANGE could be trusted for 8 more years. LOL Your country is slipping in EVERY SINGLE economic indicator. I feel sorry for my American friends. The only civilized country in the World and the richest that ALLOWS 50 million of it’s citizens to not have health care. Crime rates higher than ANY industrialized country on earth yet you can’t agree on gun laws for the inner cities. What’s in the water there? Obama is an articulate leader who would do WONDERS for world opinion of the US.

People need to vote their pocketbooks and not personalities. You don’t have to like the President, just know he has your interest at heart has a clue about what the heck it is he is doing.

good lord… they accuse Obama of teaching sex to kids, then they have the gall to flip out about this? they have become completely unhinged. karl rove mastery at work… and unfortunately as seen in these posts, people are latching on to ANYTHING to derail this campaign. make it about ANYTHING other than the last 8 horrendous years of republicans in the white house.
do you realize how stupid you sound when you get offended over a remark like this? what about the LIES that mccain and palin are tossing around? what about your OWN PARTY thinking the palin choice was a mistake?
i can’t believe i wasted the time to even write this, hoping that some mindless fools would actually think rationally.

david from texas I fear you are wasting your time trying to stick to the issues. Especially when it comes to capital gains taxes. I seriously doubt you’re going to find anyone who can engage you in that particular topic. Just because people list the economy as the number one concern in the election doesn’t mean they understand anything about it.(Although you happen to be spot on concerning it!)
Posted by: Dan | Sep 10, 2008 12:26:35 AM
I’m afraid you’re right, Dan! This election is scaring the hell out of me. Seems no one is concerned about what’s on the table for Americans in the future!

Now the Republicans “own” the word “lipstick” – just like they own the words “patriotism” and “serve” and “country”. Why? Because they say so.

Senator Obama clearly called Sarah Palin a pig. He also called John McCain an old fish, a rotten one to boot. He needs to apologize and stop the name calling.
bbvmck

It’s funny to see you the ignorance of the people buying into this bull when you want to. It’s just an old saying that was used by all the candidates at some time…
For God’s sake — Think for your selves!!
Chillax!!

Back to the issues, even though, I feel NoBama did indeed refer to Palin in his “pig” statement.
Obama continues to say he wants to put a 25 to 28% Cap Gains tax on wealthier Americans. With America being in a recession, the best cure for getting out of the recession is investing. Most wealthier Americans have the funds to invest, however, with a high Cap Gains tax, they will be more reluctant to do so. Obama is hoping that by taxing wealthier Americans, taht this will trickle down to middle and lower class Americans so he wont have to raise thier taxes. This will not work. Once he starts to tax the wealthy Amerians so hard, they will quit investing and therefore, the country will stay in recession. This means, under the Obama economic plan, that the middle and lower class Americans will have their taxes increased after all.

It really is useless to argue this here.
The fact is that it was at minimum ill-advised…but people are so wedded to their views already that logic has disappeared.
Barack Obama is a smarter candidate than this, and his campaign will either stop trying to spin things like this as more evidence of Republican thuggery, because the mistake was Obamas, or they will forfeit all credibility.
He should have never said those words, not right now.

to “david from texas” and his following comment: Once he starts to tax the wealthy Amerians so hard, they will quit investing and therefore, the country will stay in recession.
if you knew anything about the current tax system you would understand that it is totally out of balance right now. The people with the most money are paying the least taxes and the people with no money are paying so much taxes that I am surprised they can manage to feed themselves each month (mind you some of them can’t. Obama proposes balancing the American tax system so that it is fair for everyone. And another thing, look back at past presidents who raised taxes on the top tier of Americans and you will find a strong economy

I don’t have any hope left. John McCain says country first as he starts another Culture War in America and yet know one with a Media voice calls him on it. The media stands there letting the Palin spew mendacity after mendacity concerning her claim to be against the “bridge to nowhere” when everyone who has been paying attention knows this in not so. The same goes for her constant claim that she is against EarMarks. We let this Culture War got so heated that women… who are angry because hillary lost, now think that voting for McCain is a better option, even though he voted not once but three times to reject equal pay for women who are working the same jobs as men. America, we are falling for this again. If it is not gay marriage, creationism, it will be something else… all in an effort to make us not pay attention to the issues.. We all need to step back and get back to what this election is really about. CHANGE IN AMERICAN GOVERNMENT FROM WHAT HAS NOT BEEN WORKING IN A WAY THAT IS GOOD FOR THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS IN THE MIDDLE CLASS..

…and all reason and civility slowly drains from the debate…nice, very nice.
Enjoy November.

willie Will
CNN spent a full hr on it tonight with anderson cooper… your just upset that the whole thing may be slipping away from u

“if you knew anything about the current tax system you would understand that it is totally out of balance right now. The people with the most money are paying the least taxes and the people with no money are paying so much taxes that I am surprised they can manage to feed themselves each month (mind you some of them can’t.”……Really?! Because I was pretty sure that the top five percent of tax payers actually paid 53% of all taxes. I was also pretty sure that someone at the bottom of income earners would see the largest percentage benefit from the most basic of deductions. Nevermind all that, you have really opened my eyes with so many facts to back up your claims.

A pig is a pig, lipstick or not. The glove fits McCain and Palin.

More context from his remarks:
“That’s not change. That’s just calling some — the same thing, something different. But you know, you can — you know, you can put lipstick on a pig; it’s still a pig.”
Yeah I can definitely see how he’s referring to Gov. Palin there.
You know though… if the McCainiacs are willing to admit that Palin and McCain are “the same thing” and are just calling themselves “something different”… then I’ll grant them the victimhood of being called a pig and an old fish. Deal?

Senator Obama’s campaign of HOPE and CHANGE is a big farce. He had over 25 points of concern but not one real specific answer that will work. I listened to his speech three times and even took notes. Most of the speech was a repeat of previous ones. He should know he can not do all things for all people on equal basis.
I grew up in a family of 8 and we had no health insurance yet my folks always made sure we received the medical attention we needed. The only time I had troubled was when disabled on the job and the insurance company and my employer did not pay the bills or even give a damn. I had to use every last penny of savings for four year of surgeons, physical therapy and drugs.
So having insurance does not always help.
Also, I know no one who needed or wanted an abortion. Responsible women make sure to behave properly and sometimes just say no. Yes, rape and incest pgs should be aborted but they are less than 1% of the abortions.
The McCain/Palin ticket is for decency and best for a countrty of responsible citizens. Senator Obama is not the candidate for America. He is a socialist/communist to the core.

I just watched the speech. From comments here, I expected the man to be frothing in the mouth like a rabid attack dog.
It was a perfectly normal expression in the English language taken out of context. Now, lets get back to discussing the issues and stop throwing in this silly distractions.

I don’t know many middle class people who make money off capital, so the captial gains tax really affects the upper middle class.

Wordwizard found no reference to the full phrase earlier than 1986. Using lipstick to denote cosmetic changes has been used since at least the late ’50s.

I wonder if Barry realizes what scumbags some of his supporters are.

Well duh Dan. I don’t think Obama’s advocating yanking every soldier out at once. Ever heard of a phased withdrawal? I guess Sarah isn’t smart enough to know what she meant to say. Thank God there’s people like you to speak for her. Bravo!

So I guess the PUMAS are going to go for McCain’s throat for calling Hillary a pig????

As a Republican, I cannot wait to vote for Obama.
And THAT is putting country first…

Republicans are such hypocrites. For years they attacked Hillary viciously. The Pigman (that’s Rush Limbaugh) even attacked Chelsie when she was an early adolescent. Now they think that Palin’s gender makes her out of bounds for criticism.
Just because Palin used the word “lipstick” in a recent speech doesn’t mean she now owns that word. Republicans keep dumping truckloads of lies every day to distract the public from the harm they do. McCain owes Obama an apology for running an ad saying Obama wants to teach sex ed to kindergartners. Republicans owe Americans an apology for lying us into a war, outing a CIA agent, ignoring warnings about 9/11, doubling the national debt, spying on private citizens, gutting safety regulations and a thousand other crimes.
Here’s a special word to you blue-collar Republicans: How many times do you have to get hit over the head before you figure out who’s hitting you?

“Well duh Dan. I don’t think Obama’s advocating yanking every soldier out at once. Ever heard of a phased withdrawal? I guess Sarah isn’t smart enough to know what she meant to say. Thank God there’s people like you to speak for her. Bravo!”…..Duh is exactly what you should say since you were unable to comprehend what I wrote. The key word was ‘stabilize’. If things aren’t stabilized on the ground the ‘phased withdrawal’ leaves those still on the ground in danger. Your savior doesn’t care if things are secure in Iraq, he simply wants us out. Yet if things aren’t secure in Iraq a phased withdrawal puts more Americans in danger. Hell, your candidate don’t get it why would I expect you to?

Well now that the ‘Piggy’ democratic daycare has let out for the day it’s time to head off to bed.

Dan, the surge worked. Iraq seems pretty stable to me. Violence is way down, US death are way down. Bush is moving 8000 soldiers from Iraq to Afghanistan. How stable does it have to be before we leave? Let the Iraqis take over their own country. We did our job, won the war. You can’t win an occupation. Give them their country back.

Ok, I give up. Maybe on another day, there will be discussion of the issues before us. If not, I’m afraid this election has diminished to nothing more than name calling, lies, and empty rhetoric. From the candidates down to their supporters.
Americans need to put all this “trash” talk to the side and size up the candidates on the things that will affect them in the future. There are a lot more serious issues out there besides the discussions I’m seeing here. I’m surprised ABC even posted this article.
I think we should all be on our knees and ernestly asking God to indeed, bless America!
Goodnight.

I’ll change the saying: “Like father like son” to “Like Leader Like follower”.
What a complete waste of space w/these piggy faces and piggy comment. We get you. I am sure even voters on your side would agree this is childish… and a waste of space

Samantha, I hope you get this
Obama never said “typical white person”, that was Hillary. I heard it come straight out of her mouth. So, stop your lying or just simily grossly misinformed. One of those low information voters, uh

Much ado about NOTHING.
Don’t check your intelligence at the door.

Mack,
Last post of the night, this site is being overrun apparently.
Just to point out the obvious problem with your argument….John McCain pushed for comprehensive immigration reform that most Republicans thought was too soft on illegal (and that is what they are if they are not here legally) immigrants.
That was part of the 10% when he did not vote with his party…now, can you give me examples of the >6% when Barack Obama voted against his party?

“can you give me examples of the 6% when Barack Obama voted against his party?”
Why vote AGAINST the party that knows what the hell they’re doing?
McCain NEEDED to vote against his party, they have DESTROYED this country.

Thanks, Jake, for a very common sense post.
I pray that Charlie Gibson listens to you. And that he really puts the fire to Sarah Palin’s feet, because no one else has yet. I’m really scared for this country if McCain/Palin wins.

Sam said: “to “david from texas” and his following comment: Once he starts to tax the wealthy Amerians so hard, they will quit investing and therefore, the country will stay in recession.” — I sooooo agree with you.

JR in VA, just from your comment alone… I know you don’t understand what Republicans are looking for. And from your hateful and mindless post… I see there’s no use explaining it to you either. But just wanted to notify how crazy you sound.

Avoiding issues Mcwar’s team is spreading false and twists opponent’s words.
He really has never known the sense of HONOR.
Remember – he pushed wheelchair..
His Temper – that what we see in every move of his Disgrace campaign.

I’d like to take issue with the author’s use of “ad lib” in this paragraph:
“…alluding to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s ad lib during her vice presidential nomination acceptance speech last week”.
Palin’s speech was very tightly scripted. There was no ad libbing then or since and her handlers have thus far studiously avoided any situations where she could deviate from the script. My guess is that they agreed to her upcoming “interview” with Charles Gibson because it’s structured to be a celebrity “puff piece” with no hard questions. Please, Charlie, say it isn’t so!

But McCain says ” Obama is willing to loose a war to win an election” (which is treason) – and its not questioning Obama’s patriotism?
______________________________________
So Obama says:
“You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a (flag) pin. Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we’re talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for, I think, true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest…” — Barack Obama
WOULD YOU THINK VOTERS ARE WRONG FOR questioning Obama’s patriotism?
“I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow (WHICH IS A FELONY) when you could afford it. Not smack, though. …” — Barack ObamA
WOULD YOU GET UPSET IF I QUESTIONED OBAMA’S JUDGEMENT & WOULD YOU CALL ME A RACIST?
JUST TO KEEP THINGS REAL, IT IS THE DNC THAT HAS NOMINATED AN ADMITTED COCAINE USER WHO SAT IN A RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS, WON’T WEAR A FLAG PIN, BOUGHT HIS HOME FROM A CRIMINAL, AND ASSOCIATES WITH A MAN WHO CONSPIRED TO BOMB THE US CAPITAL…
SO HOW IS OBAMA BEING VICTIMIZED AGAIN?

Who cares if he was talking about her? Get over it.

We can debate what Barack Obama did or did not mean when he made his lipstick-on-a-pig statement, ’til way past election day, and both sides will continue to spin it with ease.
The real point is, no gentleman would have made that statement. Had he thought it through before he spoke, he would agee that it could be offensive to others.
I would ask of him, are not his character and manners atleast as important to him as his rhetoric?

On Monday in Michigan, Obama became exercised when talking about the need to give even suspected terrorists legal rights.
“We may think this is Mohammed the terrorist,’’ he said at a campaign rally, but “it might be Mohammed the cab driver. You might think it’s Barack the bomb thrower. But it might be Barack the guy running for president.’’
Continuing, he got more heated, his voice booming. Referring to the Constitution, he said: “Don’t mock the Constitution! Don’t make fun of it! Don’t suggest that it’s un-American to abide by what the founding fathers set up! It’s worked pretty well for 200 years!’’
He finished with a sigh: “These people.”
Uh, Senator… when our founding fathers found themselves having to deal with Musslemen terrorists, they “set up” United States Marines! OOH-RAH!*
What they did not do is squander time deliberating which parts of our constitution apply to said terrorists.

Can you imagine what Republicans would say if Obama had an unmarried, knocked up 17-year old daughter? You’d never hear the end of it. They’d preach about “family values”. They’d say Obama was a terrible parent. But not sarah palin, oh no, she’s a saint.

Let it be known that Ms swift is indeed a sycophant of the highest order.Her children are definately smart enough to understand that all she insinuating doesn’t make any sense.No one was been called a pig and we do not have pigs campaigning to be Veeps,so Ms Swift quit your innuendos and lets go back to issues that matter to this country.

Can any of the posters here who are supporting Mccain tell me what proposals he has made that will benefit you personally? Not the country. Just you, yourself? Thanks

Bill
Take it to the republicans in the voting booth.
“It’s not an immigration issue its a drunk driving issue”-Geraldo
“No he should’ve been deported” -O’Reilly
Immigrants don’t jump the border to drink and drive.

With Obama’s cohorts ACORN going to town registering people We’re going to be looking at
massive
voter fraud. To beat Obama, McCain is going to need a huge lead in the polls to offset the deceased and citizens of other countries who’ll be voting.

between the ears
yea hes tossed pretty much the whole country under the bus

staniam
really. Republicans have lost 300 thousand members since primaries. Democrats posted over 2 million in gains. New registrants aren’t polled and neither are voting blocks that don’t regularly vote (Likely voter polls). The majority polls use landlines and not cell phones. The majority of polls sampling is small compare to the numbers that actually vote. McCain ahead in the polls don’t bother me. Obama ahead in the polls don’t bother me. I remember Iowa.

SURE MM, AND THAT IS WHY I HAVE GOTTEN MORE PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA THAN ANYONE.

“. Obama has been on the scene for almost 18 months and turned inside out concerning his background, his beliefs,his family,his minister,his lack of flag pins. ”
EIGHTEEN MONTHS…. with MINIMAL vetting
you find B O ready for the POTUS because you like the sound of his voice and his chant of “Change” (no matter to what) even though he has acknowledged that the smooth talking preacheries he renders as a smooth talking Chicago politician are “Words…. just words!”
You ought to be ashamed of yourselves!

Out come the Truth Squad making up more stuff as they go along – poor little Palin – she now has some Security guards to make sure she doesn’t get hurt !!
Obama should take McCane to task for his latest RUDE and DISGUSTING ad.
Can you believe we are letting that stuff go by.
We have to get down and dirty immediately

MM
you Obama people dont get it you will not change the process you have to play by the conventional political rules and you look pretty hilarious doign it… Obama will lose!

staniam
Being cynical doesn’t put health care on the table. If you really want change hold politicians accountable, make them pay for there mistakes. The American people should be the only people lobbying the government.

Unfortunately, Obama is way too polite to actually mean something disparaging by that remark. McCain absolutely knows no shame. This false outrage is comical, and it will backfire.
And, I have the perfect response. Obama should say the following:
“I tell you what John, if you think I owe you an apology, I’ll make a deal with you. I’ll apologize to you after you apologize to the American people for supporting Bush’s disastrous policies for eight years, and for supporting the war profiteering. I’ll apologize to you after you apologize for your disgusting ads which intentionally misrepresent my positions over and over again. I’ll apologize you when you apologized Chelsea Clinton for calling her ugly, and saying that Janet Reno was her father. I’ll apologize to you and Ms. Palin when she apologizes to the good people of Alaska for charging them thousands of dollars to sleep in her own house. I’ll apologize to you and Ms. Palin when she apologizes for lying to the American public about accepting money for the bridge to nowhere. How about it John? You want to make that deal?”

They are a pretty arrogant bunch that Truth Squad. Should we be talking about them all day long – get over it.
They don’t inspire anything but whining – poor babies – it’s pathestic.

haha. also, Palin said in her debut speech, what’s the difference between a hockey player and a bull (or some other animal)?
And she answered: lipstick.

michelle
you didnt actually pay attention to the speech..bearign your full civic responsibility is watchign both conventions start to finish nothing less!

stanaim
Just like you McCain supporters talk about something else when some one makes a good point. my original statements was about voters but anyway. McCain has more Federal lobbyist align with oil and banks. Obama has lobbyist but from the state level. They also consider unions to and advocacy groups as lobbyist also.

MM
so that makes Obama a hypocrite too he has lobbyists everyone does…I havent decided who Im voting for but Obamahas been weak start to finsih as a GE candidate… you are worried because he may not win

samantha
yep sure a few percentage pts of Hillary people are goign over to Obama but it takes only 1 pervent or less than one in gores case to lose an election and these people really deserve whats coming to them… all of a sudden to wake up and think they control the process is just ludicrous and sad for them… they didnt anymore study civics or care about poltics any any way before the phenom came along its not abotu the policies its about an american idol mentality which is unamerican in itself its based soley on qualifications and policy positions that are credible

I get it, it’s campaign time again.
Republicans are outraged, I say OUTRAGED, with Democrats using the English Language.
And all because they do not want to talk about the Economy, Home Forclosures, Unemployment, Education, Healthcare, Broken Military, Debts and Deficits, etc. etc. etc.
We understand. Your policies were responsible for this disaster.
It’s time for the grown ups to set things straight again and on the right track again. FDR had to do it, Clinton had to do, now it’s Obama’s time.

polderboy
dont you dare identify Obama with President Clinton after he said in Feb in an interview in Nevada that people fell through the cracks of the Bush and clinton admin….you are disgusting! We will not forget and you will lose going away because of it!

Sarah Palin won’t even do an interview or answer unscripted questions because it will reveal she is utterly unqualified to teach courses at a high school level, let alone run a country.
She is a liar… she is crook… she is stateist… and above anything else she will help ruin the country right beside McCain.
McCain sold his soul to get nominated by his party. Everyone who knows anything knows that. The old McCain never had a chance with the powers at be, but the new McCain decided he would settle for being a puppet to fulfill his dream of being president… how sad.
I just wonder how many people voting for McCain can name a single thing that he has proposed that will improve the day to day life of your family, both now and down the road… that’s right, not a one, because he hasn’t. All he has proposed is that he will start wars with foreign nations.
If your biggest voting point is who is going to thump the bible harder, you are putting yourself and your individual beliefs ahead of the country, the constitution, and the rest of the world.
The last 8 years have been terrible for our country in so many ways, and we’re all really starting to get pinched hard personally from all the bad mistakes. Let’s get back on track and with someone who has vision, and get the people behind him to fulfill those visions.
People, we cannot continue down this road… the same people who control McCain are the same people who have killed the dollar, put us in debt to China (yes, China virtually owns us now), started conflict which drove gas sky high, got lots of people killed… the list goes on and on. Let’s get back to the America we all once knew…

stanium:
Re: your response to polderboy:
THANK YOU!

If the shoe fits, Palin and McCain should wear it!

The most amusing thing is that the Obama apologists actually believe this was a smart move for Obama. To mention LIPSTICK-PIG when 40 million people just heard Palin mention LIPSTICK-Hockey Mom six days ago is Insanity. Obama nuked himself. Females are outraged and he will pay for this in votes whether Obama MEANT it or not. The perception is what matters and this is perceived as being SEXIST.
Hillary will go into Hiding now for sure. She is smart enough to avoid any association with Obama now.

If it turns out that Americans are THIS gullible, then the nation has no business declaring itself leader of the free world. I mean, this is just plain silly.
Is it just me, or have the republicans reduced themselves to the most transparent, cynical, and inelegant of manipulators. They don’t even seem to care that you can see the mechanics of the manipulation. They act as if video tape and audio recordings don’t exist and couldn’t possibly record their minute to minute contradictions. Either they are stupid or they think we are.
And I say this as a registered republican, absolutely slack jawed and embarrassed at how very, very far this party has fallen since Reagan.

Gee Janet Reno and ugly Chelsea seem kinda of sexist to me. In fact down right cruel, really unforgivable if you ask me.
This whole Palin thing is being played way too much by the McCain Campaign.
When is the press going to get serious about this Campaign? Who the hell is this wolf in sheep’s clothing anyway. She hiding repeats her speech that was written for her wont talk to the press, dirt coming up on her everywhere, and all you guys can do is give some glowing review of her.
Tell her a Pig has more intelligence than a Pit Bull with or without lipstick.

m AND
I think you’re fooling YOURself, and I think you miss the point I’ve tried to make regarding my low opinion regarding Obama’s giving this intentionally unbecoming vignette about his grandmother on television in front of millions of people…. to put HIMSELF in a more favorable light!
When it comes to B O, “PUTZ” is still the word!

“There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.” – Barack Obama
Now insert black for white, and pretend John McCain said it. It would be racist. But Obama says it and it is poetry.

between the ears
Yeah except you leave out the 100 other speeches and townhalls when he talks about the people and not himself. I’ve seen Obama does townhalls, I think he does townhalls better then he does political rallies.

Obama’s lip stick / pig remark … and, Biden’s unsavory children with special needs remarks show us what a couple of creeps these two candidates are. In lieu of Sarah Palin’s comment about hockey moms, pit bulls and lip stick, Obama’s lip stick/ pig remark was extremely demeaning. Even though I am not an Obama supporter, at least I thought he had some degree of class and sophistication. He can try to cover his tracks by saying that the lip stick remark was not directed towards Governor Palin, but anyone with half a brain knows that’s exactly what he meant. I think Obama knows his campaign is in real trouble, and that’s why he’s stooping to such desperate, insulting and distasteful attacks. Obama is definitely not Presidential material.

The pig wearing lipstick comment was first made by McCain (McNugget) when he belittled Hillary’s Health Plan. Obama’s point was in regard to the GOP Gang as business as usual and you can’t hide it behind a skirt and lipstick. Just picture Palin holding McCain as a baby with these GOP Gang members hiding behind her skirt: Bush/Cheney/Rove/Delay/Lott et al. American women voters aren’t stupid and they will be able to discern the slippery tricky Gop efforts to win them over by putting a woman up front. McCain couldn’t carry it so they built up the attention a little with Palin. But she won’t pan out…she has a newborn with problems and a pregnant teenage daughter who isn’t married and will need her more than ever. She should go home and take care of her family and forget her “me” ambitions. Bake cookies Palin – and by the way, don’t forget to put on your lipstick!

Couldn’t agree w Obama more, and agree with the article that the distinction between taking something personally and understanding the message are two different things. What is true is that McCain is getting lots of new voters, drawn by a femal candidate who is glossy and lipsticky and new, but the worn out old ideas are not going to do the US public one bit of good. How can the public complain bitterly about the Bush tenure and then elect the same party with the same agenda YET AGAIN, and drag us all down with them? Catchy lines always emerge out of these political fights for voters’ minds, and another would be the “Surge to Nowhere.” What exactly has the US gained out of invading Iraq and then “staying to WIN,” except bankruptcy? It’s all madness. You can’t win against terrorist cells in land battle. You can’t claim that “the Surge” was the only factor in currently reduced violence in Iraq. It’s all mind-warp. Obama is just pointing out that behind all the excitement is the same, crippling mess of bad ideas and pathetic leadership to nowhere that has ruled us for the past 8 years.

I’d really like to get the name-calling, etc, out of the way – we don’t have time to cloud the issues at this point. Let’s get on with getting Obama elected. I want him to stay on course and AMERICANS to be responsible & do their own homework instead of acting like this is high school, By the way – here’s a quote from Time Magazineto chew on: Alaska is, in essence, an adjunct member of OPEC. It has four different taxes on oil, which produce more than 89% of the state’s unrestricted revenue. On average, three-quarters of the value of a barrel of oil is taken by the state government before that oil is permitted to leave the state. Alaska residents each get a yearly check for about $2,000 from oil revenues, plus an additional $1,200 pushed through by Palin last year to take advantage of rising oil prices. Any sympathy the governor of Alaska expresses for folks in the lower 48 who are suffering from high gas prices or can’t afford to heat their homes is strictly crocodile tears.”

Nicky Hartzell
first of all 4 more yrs of the last 8 yrs is really dumb beyond belief as a slogan! nobody will get beyond the superficial stuff like lipstidck on a pig because Obama still hasnt bared his soul and revealed everything your supposed to on a campaign….he has to do more and he cant because he cant debate…just dont be too upset but hes lost and you have to accept it!

homas
um hello… if Obama still refers to Palin by name its still about her and him… you people just dong get it and will be crushed in November but live and learn!

You know what’s wrong for women?
A bunch of Republican men who have a habit of telling women what to do with their bodies, trying to tell them what to think as well.
Nice try, guys.

MM
you are doing the insulting… you really have no credibility…Obama will lose thats it… you have nothing more to do here!

samantha
yea they can say in theory that Hillary is campaigning hard for Obama but the other day she said shes justt doing the democratic duty and she hasnt taken on Palin like stupid Obama is doing… David Gergen said it was stupid tonight on CNN get with it Obamabots!

MM
thats true but all the speeches up until then were not written by him and the american public wants someone who can talk off the cuf not read a teleprompter….then again Obama is no President Clinton…

american1
I believe it was reported that more male Hillary supporters are goign for Palin… you have a bigger problem in that too since Obama is perceived to be not all that masculine!

MM
there is no proof of that only proof of the acceptance speech… and that still doesnt speak to the fact that he cant speak without a teleprompter!

President John F. Kennedy, standing by the Brandenburg Gate during a critical moment of the Cold War, declared: “ich bin ein Berliner” (I am a Berliner); a challenge to the Berlin Wall, the Soviet affront to freedom!
Imagine if Mr. Obama’s recent request had been granted. Imagine Mr. Obama standing by the Brandenburg Gate declaring “You can put lipstick on a pig, [but] It’s still a pig” (Sarah Palin is a pig)!

Obama’s campaign is just trying to change the subject because they are scared…
How do you like being losing?

It speaks volumes of the Republican mindset to immediately assume that Senator Obama’s “lipstick on a pig” referred to Sara Palin and “old fish” referred to McCain. Isn’t it interesting to get a glimpse into what the Republicans are really thinking…

jazzygirl
you can preach all you want to Obama will not win at this point… sorry to dissapoint you… the issues dont matter they did before but not now!

McCain/Palin = Dukakis/Ferraro
They both got huge convention bounces.

MM
you arent going to change anyones mind… youcan have your own private worship service of Obama,… I regularly gave to the DNC and past nominees he will get none of my money… I hear he is having a cash prob now lol

staniam
Who are you helping by foaming out the mouth? Have gone and looked at policies like suggested. Because every vote counts. 2 million newly registered voters and McCain/Palin = Dukakis/Ferraro. Dukakis/Ferraro got a 16 pt bounce at the convention. Guess you won that election Reagan.

MM
Mondale/Ferraro ’84 and Dukkakis/Bentsen ’88 let me guess you are too young to remember those campaigns… contrary to popular opinion… this is not just your campaign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama is a Hypocrite. The Obamabots are dissmissive of McCain’s reputation as a POW, which is something that should be at the very least admired across all party lines. In a fit of arrogance and the need to have the attention focused on him, Obama pulled another “Tell what gets me votes” act. On an interview with ABC, he brought up that back in 1979 he considered joining the armed forces but, since we were not in armed conflict he rejected the idea (guess having over a hundred held hostage in Iran was not “armed conflict” enough).
So in the tradition of Dreams of My Father, Obama make up or embellishes stories to appear as something he is not.
Tell us Obama if you did consider joining the armed forces, why is the fact absent from your books? Why are you only bringing this up now? Interesting how you never brought up until you are is now down in the polls to a POW.

What a gift! Thank you Republicans for revealing what you really think by ASSUMING Obama meant Sara Palin is a pig in lipstick and John McCain is an old fish.

Duh folks its obvious that the repuglicans are simply driving a wedge between Obama and white (pretty stupid) women …. any woman want to call me sexist? Bring it on and take it like a man equal terms now sisters:-)

Obama must make a campaign stop in Alaska some time soon, and talk in a town hall with all interested people about the Bush with lipstick. More listen to them after his speech. That would be revealing, some her lies would be so exposed.
Obama/Biden 2008

“Obama supporters try to be witty.
They try to say something profound. Sometimes, they are downright vile and rude.
No matter what Obama sympathizers and apologists say in public or online, We will press forward with the just cause of NObama!”
Obama: Yes We Can
NO YOU WON’T

The Mcain campain is SO dishonest. How can they sleep at night?
This is yet ANOTHER “fake” outrage scandal that worked so well for Bush. How long will the media and gullable Americans fall for this crap? Not this time. The stakes are too high.
From the LA Times today:
McCain too has invoked pigs in criticizing opponents. When Clinton released her healthcare plan last year, the Arizona senator portrayed it as a remake of the one she proposed when her husband, Bill Clinton, was president. “I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig,” McCain said

A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.95 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 6.1% (a 25% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.7 trillion in equity value evaporate
(stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.5 trillion dollars;
6) 3% of American homes are in foreclosure.

I love you Obama! Finally fighting them on their terms! This isn’t a reality-show, or soap opera! This costs lives!!!! This is damn serious!!!
Plain’s as reclusive as Cheney. Fires people as ‘loyalty tests’ in a small town of Wasilla.
Fires librarians.
Doesn’t talk about sex in schools.
Middle-Ages baby!!!
Plain is irrelevant but it shows what McCain is all about!!!
Obama-Biden-Democracy 08!!!!!!!

Palin is the first person to use a metaphor to describe herself. She called herself a ptbull with lipstick.
But I would point out that pitbulls are famous for eating children. Now I dont think Palin will eat her children but she has open up herself to other manners of comparison.
I know one thing, she lies very easily, smiling as she throw daggers.
It is something she has in common with Hillary. They will say anything to get what they want. They dont seem to know the difference between telling the truth and telling a lie.
Thow shall not bear false witnesses (LIE) is a commandment of the CHRISTIAN BIBLE, isnt it?

When ads were run in August discussing Obama’s relationship to Ayers, Obama’s campaign demanded that the Department of Justice criminally investigate the group behind the ads. (What criminal charges that were justified by running an ad were never explained.) It is bad enough that a senator demands criminal charges against a political opponent, but this becomes a real problem if the president of the U.S. asks his justice department to do take on his political foes.

“if the president of the U.S. asks his justice department to do take on his political foes.”
Posted by: HarleyDavidson
Thats funny hasnt Bush been doing that exact same thing for the past 8 years? Remember Colin Powell who USED to be Sec of State but fell out of favor because he didnt go along with the evil Empire…..no difference in McCain.

Obama wasn’t talking about a person, he was talking about a policy,
Jane Swift? That’s all they’ve got for their spokesperson for their cute little “Truth Squad”? (As if a Republican would know anything about “truth”,)
She’s the embarrassingly inept former Governor of Massachusetts whom Mitt Romney elbowed out of the way by bribing the sexist party elders. He was successful in this effort because a) The Republican Party hierarchy is an exclusive boys club here, and b) because Jane Swift is a feather-headed lightweight with the intellectual capacity of a sea-sponge.

Mary,
That expression has been used by many since this campaign started. It was picked up from the 4 years ago I believe.
Palin is late to the party. If you all were worried about the association you should have been more careful about setting yourselves up for it.
She doesn’t get the executive parking space because she’s a woman.

The “Palin Defense Committee” is just as simple-minded as its candidate, more so, I’m sure, or believes the American public to be – what a ridiculous bunch of charges. My third-grade nephew could see through her absurd allegations about Obama doing name-calling.

Hey,
Chuck Norris is on Larry King tomorrow.
Maybe he’ll throw down a gauntlet and challenge Obama to a joust to protect Palins honor.

Okay,
Its the creative hour.
First side to produce an actually funny Chuck Norris campaign joke gets my vote.

John,
Hillary has taken so many knives that she doesn’t feel pain anymore and no one needs to defend her.

A Truth Squad, specializes in smearing lipstick on a pig…and calling it a gazelle.

Night. Gotta get some sleep before work myself.

Hmmm,
Not sure you Republicans want to get into a game of “The Price is Right”.
That’s a subject that hasn’t worked so well for you over the years.

Chico,
I’ve been thinking. Maybe Rove has his price. After all he is a Republican.

The Biggest PIG in America are our Top 5 OIL Companies who each made over $40 Bilion in Profit, in each of the last 5 Years in a Row ! They are still Raping the American Consumer and no one is doing anything about it ! I really admire Palin for going up against the BIG OIL companies, and she now gets my Vote. The Biggest Enemy against the USA is our own BIG OIL Companies, not the Talibans, or Alquida, or the Poor Innocent Iraqi Citizens. Didn’t we learn anything from the ENRON Scandel ?

I think Republicans are just too d*mb!!!!! period.

If Sarah Palin were homely at all, conceiveably, the idea of Obama calling her a pig might have some traction.
Little Sarah is a very beautiful woman so any reference to her looks could only be flattering to her.
On the other hand John McCain once made a very crude and cruel joke about Chelsea Clinton and Janet Reno.

If you support McCain fine. But don’t degrade yourselves by defending these scumbags that work for him.

If Palin can call herself a dog (Pitbull!) why can’t others call her a pig? Fair is fair…
What happened to that free speech she says America represents by the way too?
Maybe she should go back to banning information in libraries and stopping womans rights to chose again!
- O’ wait, she never stopped doing that.

Awwwww, poor Ms. Palin! If she and her handlers cannot handle the rough and tumble of the political campaign then perhaps they should withdraw. The expression used by Obama and, by the way, McCain on occasion has been around for a very long time. This is just more nonsense from the Republican Party who thinks that using Carl Rove’s smear, hate, fear and distraction will win them the White House once again. I am betting that the American people are smarter than that this time around and won’t fall for it. Of course the choice of Palin was calculated to energize the right wing religious fanatics who in all likelihood will fall for it once again. Pathetic that this is the best the Republican Party and John McCain can do.

I don’t care about lipstick or pigs or Bristol Palin’s pregnancy or the fact that Governor Palin is an experienced big game hunter. I want reporters to stick to the issues that candidates will be dealing with should they become elected. Everything else is manipulative distraction, perpetrated by the campaign managers, television news managers pandering to the lowest common denominator, and shock jocks. Not all of us are sleepwalking through this election cycle. It’s less than 2 months before a presidential election, yet I suspect that Gibson’s interview of Palin will dig no deeper than a beauty contest interview. I hope he surprises me but I’m not holding my breath. These days I miss REAL reporting, a la the likes of Cronkite and Huntley/Brinkley.

No one can deny that if Governor Palin were a man, she would never have been picked.
Say what you will about Obama’s experience, but he has been vetted over and over through the primary season by voters and the media. He won the nomination fairly after campaigning in every state and got millions of votes.
One man made the Palin decision on very little information. One man decided that the free world could be ruled by someone with no foreign policy experience and little exposure to much of America and the world.
With no real clue on how Gov. Palin might engage China, Russia, Iran, or other rogue states, McCain gambled all of our futures.
Would you entrust the safety of your children to someone you’ve only seriously talked to once? Especially when you knew they were at serious risk from the outside?
Isn’t that the definition of “being willing to lose a war to win an election?”
Even if the Palin gamble works flawlessly, gamblers eventually lose and lose big. America can’t afford that type of decision making style after watching Bush do it for 8 years.

Charlie Gibson, incensed at the low expectation the world has of his pending interview decides to come out swinging. The ensuing dogfight forces Palins handlers to tranquilize and muzzle him, then put him on a plane to the coast. Then the public statement that “Sarah is not giving any more interviews until she is treated with the respect and deference accorded to a lady of her stature”.
And then the snooze alarm went off.

Please, everyone answer just one question :
Why honored man and busy executive woman are running around the country spreading false in every word they said?
Why?
That would be the answer about intentions of them, their sense and their Value for this election.
If You want to elect leaders ,lying You every time – this ticket is right for You.
But think one more time – does it also fit for Your next generations and would You be fogiven for Your choice by them.

linda
Obama has been lying to you for 19 months

ENOUGH!!!!!
How McCain Palin will make America safer:
1. Sarah will keep sounding like a CRUSADER, while the terrorists plot in AFGHANISTAN.
2. Sarah will get on the job training on how to be president and VICE President in case cancer survivor McCain goes under the knife on day ONE.TWO…THREE…
3. If John survives day one, he will have to be shown how to use a computer in order to write in the encrypted CODES to launch the NUKES at all those ENEMIES BUSH has made…John will have to hope that RUSSIA has not heard that he is computer ILLITERATE….DUH….
4. John will have to hope the Russians are not still ANGRY with him for his statements and support of Georgia.
YOU GUYS ARE IN DEEP S if those 2 get in…ON DAY ONE!!!!
ENOUGH!!!!!!! WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE

Does anyone have a clue what lipstick on a pig means?
“when someone tries to dress something up, but is still that something.”
Boy, no wonder our society is going down the tubes.

everyone know that Obama is a child .
He never never can do anything with terrorists ,Russia………..

“Truth Squad”? Here we go abusing the poor English language some more. I’ve had about enough of the Neocon “Truth Squad” that “truthed” us into an unnececcary war that has devastated a lot of people in both countries. This “Truth Squad” should be truthful and name themselves the “Spin Squad”, or better yet, “The Propaganda Squad”.

PHD
you are about to be put in your place in regards to your support of Obama… hes not going to win and it was foolish at best to think you could get anything out of it!

Time has come for Obama to go on the offensive. The electorate is not fact-checking the claims of the ‘right’. Middle America is certainly not reading the Huffington Post, they rely on FOX to elaborate on the stories. Go on the Attack Obama, yes ‘they are stupid’

rkb seems pretty calculated that they are suddenly using “lipstick” to describe negative things.
BBBWWWAAHHH!!!! (not to be confused w/whining!)
yeah it totally seems clear that since palin used lipstick to describe herself as a dog (positive!)the republicans should be the only one’s who get to use lipstick analogies in the campaign!!!!
it is so unfair the bots are stealing our lipstick! it’s..it’s CALCULATING!
and the nerve of obama to ‘describe negative things’.
he’s horrid! i’m voting for mcPOW.

Sounds like the Obama camp is getting desperate and ramping up its personal attacks. So much for a “different kind of politics”. The Democratic deserve to lost this election. Their leadership knew during the primaries that HRC would have been a more difficult candidate for McCain to run against but they pushed BO anyway. Now they are launching childish smears against Palin – so much for them being advocates of women!

Obama is very cool.

Deb S. – I couldn’t agree with you more. The issues are falling off the cliff and the result will be the American people paying a dear price for making a choice based on what? I have to say, though, Obama, to his apparent detriment, keeps trying to stick to issues but McCain’s campaign people keep pouncing and twisting things around. It’s a distraction. The republicans are good at that. If you keep ‘em having to respond to garbage, the issues get lost. They (McCain’s campaign) said it themselves – “This election is not about issues. It’s about personality.” With that kind of mentality, we, the American people, are headed for a fall.

Randy
you are fooling yourself Im a democrat that will vote repub for the first time in my life Obama will not win in a landslide in any scenario… you are scaredand should be… you did all this work for nothing just as usless as the Obama people!

I heard the comment, I know what Obama ai and I am appaled. Obama’s statement is typical of the mind set of the DNC today. Obama’s statementt reflects why we we were deprived of the opportunity to have a qualified experienced Democratic candidate on the ballot this year. Obama’s statement is the reason so many of us are crossing party lines to elect a Republican. I believe it will be easier to convince republicans to be moderate and adjust their positions on womens issues than it will to tone down Democrats that use womwn and really don’t want change.

Give me a break! This is a classic repiblican/Rove move in turning the media spineless so they are afraid to challenge McCain/Palin on anything. Americans never cease to amaze me as an immigrant how they can be so naive and led astray. Yes I said it! Americans are dumb when it comes to politics. I can’t vote, so I just sit back and laugh at the citizens of this country go round and round. American’s should be less worried about lipstick and more worried about the issues. Now, from an outside perspective, it’s clear that if Americans want more war and an economy that protects big corporations, religious fundamentalism mixed with government, then they want McCain/Palin. If they want to turn to diplomacy instead of war, an economy that sustains everyone, and a return to the country I heard of and dreamed of with prosperity and good moral ground.. than you’ll choose Obama/Biden. For the last eight years we’ve had endless wars, a poor economy, and gross violations of our freedom brought on by republican. I honestly have no biass or agenda, I just see what I see from the outside looking in. I hope you make the right choice and aren’t fooled. I’m faced with a decision to leave this once prosperous country of hope and equality to settle for my own country in which has it’s own problems that I thought I could escape. I guess not…so good luck Americans…an for the world’s sake, I wish you well.

MCCAIN/PALIN – THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE
I kind of like that motto.

Here’s a saying…. “Stupid is as stupid does!!” So since Mccain has voted with Bush over 90% of the time, I guess that means that he is as stupid as Bush. I believe that on election day, all the pundits, broadcasters and opinion gives will be surprised at just how handidly Obama wins this election. Just like a new baby, the novelty eventually wears off, and like a new baby, Palin’s novelty will wear off. Let’s try to stick to the issues.. You know what they are….. The horrible economy, the stupid-unjust-war in Iraq, education, Inflation, and the fact that this country is well on its way to going to hell in a handbasket((another saying)) .. Who wants to judge me and accuse me of being something I am not because I have used a saying.. Does the fact that this country is going to hell in a handbasket make me unpatriotic?? NOPE.. Just a saying.. The reasons sayings exsist is because there is some truth in them, otherwise they wouldn’t be sayings!!!

He may of meant it in a non offensive way but the truth is a lot of women may not take it that way. Especially since her referring to herself a pit-bull in lipstick only a couple days ago, too close for comfort. Obama has to realize that at this moment women are a little sensitive after the Hillary debacle so attacking Palin is not a wise choice. They have been attacking her and their numbers are going in the wrong direction, up.

staniam
State 3 important issues PALIN/mccain are talking about with any amount of detail and show us where we can verify this.
ENOUGH!!!!!

Obama dont gotta worry when he call a pig a pig. he just be telling it like it is. This woman dont think about how it be thinking about black votes. It our turn and aint no white woman gonna stop it. Besides ABC saying today that most of the world want Obama if things is gonna get better.

The Reps messed up during 8 years!!!!!!
what makes people think that they will do better ?
i thought the war in Iraq was because of WMD, now apparently the surge is working and victory is in sight!!!.Did they FINALLY find these WMD?
if not why did the surge work for?i mean , what are the troops doing there EXACTLY?

He who lives in a glass house . . . . Mr. Tapper, as a member of the establishment media that is engaged in a very dishonest, all-out propaganda campaign for Obama, I wouldn’t think you’d have the audacity to even mention putting “lipstick on a pig.”

Justin,
The last thing Obama needs to do is “shut the hell up”. The Democrats have tried that before. And lost. The more he’s tried to stay to stay on message, the more Mccain has risen in the polls. The Republicans got one thing right “this election will not be about issues”. They basically called voters stupid, and have proven to be right. The one thing he, and Biden need to do is stop praising Palin. Shae has nothing good to say about either one. All they is legitimize her nomination. Which is nothing but Reublican smoke, and mirrors.

What a MAJOR gaffe! Can you imagine if McCain or Palin made a similar veiled comment about Obama that involved an animal?! Holy @#$%!

Ms Palin needs a Truth Squad….good luck finding a glimmer of truth that comes outta her mouth.

Truth Squad? LOLOL more like a “HIT SQUAD” they have not stopped lying about Obama since the pig came out of the slop house.

WAKE UP. If anything, Obama should apologize to Wailin’ Palin for referring to her as a lipstick. Obviously, the campaign’s the PIG.

Since Senator Obama seems to be able to make such good use of words and to turn a phrase, be it an idiom or a metaphor, into a weapon of sarcasm directed a his opponents, perhaps THEY could use a few words to use when referring to him. I suggest two: popinjay and cockalorum.
Turnabout is fair play, but, frankly, I believe Senator Obama’s opponents have too much class to use either word on him.

It’s okay for McCain to use it describing Hillary’s healthcare plan, but it’s not okay for Obama to use the expression to describe McCain/Palin’s false attempt to co-opt his theme of change? WHAT RANK HYPOCRISY! Why is this sham even being tolerated by the American public and news organizations? There truly seems to be no level of dishonesty that McCain’s people will not stoop to. If it doesn’t come back on him, the American public is ignorant and deserves four more years of Bush/Cheney.

Obama said this in between the thousands of times he says…”ummm:” “err” “ummmm” ummm while his little monky brain is trying to think of more lies just like his lying preacher and his lying associates.

“Truth Squad”????? more like a “HIT SQUAD” They have not stop lying about Obama ever since the PIG had come out of the SLOP HOUSE!!!

The discrimination of any sort is never in the ears or hearts of the speaker but of the listener….all of us. Poor, Obama. He suffers from opening his mouth exchanging feet. Now every woman in America is a pig with lip stick because they use lipstick. Is that in the Koran somewhere?

I think campaigns should be heavily fined (to the point where it puts a dent in their war chest) for telling lies. I also think that every point in an ad or prepared statement must be factually accurate and have a legal oath applied. This would get rid of the bs in this election. I want to hear about the issues from the candidates. If you want to hide and avoid the public then get a replacement. I want answers and I want them now!

OBAMA IS GOOD WITH WORDS HE TOOK LESSONS FROM HIS PREACHER, YOU KNOW THE ONE WHO HE DOESN’T GO TO NOW THAT HE IS RUNNING FOR PRESEDENT. A DOG WILL RETURN TO HIS VOMIT.

Actually, I do believe he was talking about the McLame policies and “plans (a/k/a jokes)” but, IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT! Absolutely the right thing to say. As for Pa[l]in, She wanted in this game. If she can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen and, in her case, the apron. She has been more sequested and protected than any other VP or P candidate EVER. These people are jokes and if you vote for them (especially female voters) you are destroying this country and the rights of all women who absolutely do not share her beliefs. Any that do share those with her, leave the country! I despise these people – anyone WITH A BRAIN would. The Hillary supporters who say they will switch to this joke of a ticket aren’t really on Hillary’s side. Nothing this female person does or says is anything like Hillary’s policies and plans.

What a way to get away from the REAL issues. I live in the South and I have heard this expression over and over again. It’s stupid that poor Ms.Palin got her little feelings hurt over an expression that people have been using for years. Now John and Palin wants him to say “sorry” for what? She knew what she was getting into when she agreed to be John’s VP pick. There’s another old saying, if you can’t take the heat stay out of the kitchen. Now can we please get back to the real issues?

George Stephanopolus says questioning Obama’s “community organizer” time is code for racist talk. Gee, hello, anyone home at ABC NEWS? Are they so disgustingly in the tank that they don’t get it? The crowd got it, Obama realized it was stupid and hesitated, but Jake Tapper is really mad anyone would dare question his candidate, Obama.

Is the Pig with Lipstick offended? Welcome to politics. Someone order the pig a new backbone.

When I heard the Obama’s statement “You can put lipstick on a PIG and its still a PIG.” I felt he was talking about Palin. Biden made a similar statement but mentioned Palin by name. Obama’s camp said Obama was talking about McCain not Palin. It dos not matter if Obama was talking about McCain or Palin. It is unacceptable for him to call either one of them a PIG.

If you think it was meant for her then just think that. If he loses your vote so be it. If he loses the election then so be it. I would rather that he maintain the high road and not apologize for every little complaint from the opposing campaign. In my mind Obama has already done a great thing for this country. He exposed the racism, even within his party, that so many Americans think we have made so much progress with. If you can stand the truth – we clearly have not. I also thank him for waking up the millions of people who have ignored the political process. That’s success. Don’t just deny not being a Bush 3rd term, prove it to the voters by showing us the CHANGE policies that will replace those of the past 8 years.

God forbid anyone should actually pay attention to the truth! Obama wasn’t speaking about Palin at all. But the McCain campaign has to distract voters from little things like two wars, the economic, housing, enviromental and healthcare crises that this country faces. So they came up with this ridiculous stunt. I am ashamed to see that some Americans believe it without even checking the facts. This isn’t 1908. It’s not hard to find out the truth!

Some of you just keeping complaining about President Bush. Look who is controlling the Congress? What is their rating? much lower than President Bush…Congress is the one to blame. We do not need a Full House in the Government. Pelosi and Reid are liars….unfortunately I am a Democrat.
Democrat for McCain/Palin

Don’t you people realize that when Obama said he wanted to make changes in Washington D.C. that also means to change to way the race to the White House is done. He is trying to be the better person and stop the mude slinging and talk about the facts and what he or the other candidate will do as President. That is what we should betalking and thinking about. Not this crap and out and out lies the Republicans put out. I am an American living in Ireland and if McCain wins I will be happy not to be living in the good old USA

Here is another bit of concise “wisdom” for Senator Obama, our current, greatest, self-appointed agent of change, to consider. He might consider how he could direct it at all the Washington “insiders”, which I believe includes all Congressional members and Administration members, but they might become very annoyed with him. The saying, also involves the word “pig”, which Senator Obama recently seems to be fond of. So, without further ado, here it is: “Never try to teach a pig to sing … it wastes your time and annoys the pig.”
In using this gem and applying it to the whole U.S. Government, I am certain Senator Obama could accomplish wonders, although I don’t recommend its use by his minions.

Where is Biden? He is the one that should be attacking Palin not Obama? He needs to get on this job. Obama needs to look presidential for the next 56 days in order to win. I heard Obama may drop Biden from the ticket and replace him with Hillary. Obama needs to make Biden do his job.

Oh, c’mon – Caribou Barbie can take it. Isn’t she supposed to be the roughest, toughest gal on the GOP block?
How is it that people actually don’t realize what’s going on here. Palin’s the attack dog because she can hide behind the old “sexism” mantra whenever Obama or Biden strike back (which they should do every time she opens her mouth).
As a woman, I find this tactic so insulting that each and every time I see Obama or Biden call her out on her lies and inexperience, I’m going to send their campaigns another $50 donation.
Palin and her extreme views and archaic beliefs are a disgrace to our gender – thank God women everywhere are stepping up to denounce her for the fraud she is.

Stay on the ATTACK Dems., STAY ON THE ATTACK !!!!!!
The repubs THOUGHT that they could use palin as the attack dog, and then HIDE behind the charge of feminism when anyone responded to her……
WELL, YOU CAN FORGET THAT !!!!!!
The repubs HATE being on defense and just want to HIDE behind palin.
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It is the Truth A pig is an pig. Why is the Rep.Party always finger-pointing and nick picking. Every day it is something dumb. He’s not Black, hes not Christian. When will this madness stop. Because it will not affect my vote.

since when is a pig inherently a girl anyways? Does that mean he also called McCain and Plain fishes?
McCain’s campaign doesnt THINK. it just reacts. they have an ad out now about this, one massive waste of time.
they are overplaying their hand, big time, with this sexist crap. Imagine if Obama called every attack against him racist. He’d be over before you can say “Al Sharpton”

As a mayor and a governor, Palin sure went after the federal earmarks like a pig.

Obama is RATTLED! His comment regarding “My Muslim faith” on Sunday, coupled with his “pig/lipstick” comment on Tuesday suggests that he is off message; a little scared; and is rattled over Palin. He is driving women to McCain, and they are making their minds up! On November 5, Team Obama will have to face the reality of making one fundamental BAD DECISION: the selection of Joe Biden over Hillary Clinton! Obama LOST his banner of change when he picked a senator who has been in Washington just about as long as Obama has been on earth. When he made that decision, his banner of ‘Change You Can Believe In’ flew out the window! All of a sudden, their tag used against McCain — “More of the Same” — became applicable to Obama – Biden. Obama will regret not selecting Hillary! (Think that he already does!!)

Where is the apology from Meghan McCain for her comment that “no one knows what war is like other than my family”? My dad was at D-Day and the southern invasion of France, my uncle, a Navy pilot, was in 3 wars (that’s 2 more than McCain) World War II, Korea, & Vietnam, including a POW in WWII, another uncle was in the Aleutian Campaign during WW II (most Americans don’t even KNOW what that is), my great-uncle was in the Great War in France, wounded, gassed, and had flashbacks all his life. My husband was in Vietnam and still has nightmares. The Iraq War has brought back memories that he is just now telling me and we’ve been married 34 years! My nephew is on his 2nd deployment to Iraq. BUT ONLY the McCains, only the McCains know war. I’ll tell my uncle when I visit his grave at Arlington National Cemetery. Grow a backbone, Sarah. You are shaming women.

Obama turned Bill Clinton’s comments that Obama’s record of voting against the Iraq war was a ‘fairy tail’ into a smear that President Clinton said a black man becoming president was a fairy tail. Obama can’t then go around talking about lipstick and pigs and not expect it to be seen as calling Gov. Palin a pig.
What goes around comes around.

Hilarious, saying you can put lipstick on a pig and it’s still a pig! What was hilarious was the sweeties in the background applauding (then probably checking their lipstick)! Wonder how much they got paid for the stand up comedy. This election just gets funnier and funnier, I’ll give Obama that.

ISSUES PEOPLE ISSUES.

The adages about pigs are indeed old and common. But coming on the heels of Palin’s comment about pit bulls and lipstick, it is obviously slanted at her. Mr Tapper even mentioned this in his article, then promptly ignored it.
What cowardly hypocrisy on the part of BO and JT!

I agree with H2O. She definately called herself a dog. HAHA

You are so in the tank for Obama. How could any unbiased person not see the exactly what he was doing. You know that if McCain said you used a saying like call a spade a spade you would noy be making excuses for him. Did you get help from Sen. Obama’s camp for this story or do you make up this bs all by yourself?

Given the way Obama treated Hillary throughout the primaries, and now his demeaning statements towards Gov Palin, just makes you wonder how long he has been a sexist male?? Single handedly, OBAMA obtained thousands of female votes for McCain-Palin on September 9 with his demeaning ‘lipstick-pig’ comment. Someone needs to explain to that young man that bias and prejudice is a two way street!

As always, the righies want it both ways. They want to be able to personally insult the Dem candidate, call his wife a militant, blah, blah, blah, but when the dem candidate uses a term that’s probably been around since the middle ages the righties think he’s lobbing insults at their golden girl because she wears lipstick too. It just proves that Palen is no more than the righties token so they can horn in on the “sexism” argument whenever it pleases their little fancy. It’s becoming more and more and more obvious that Palen is no more than the GOP attempt at harvesting the low hanging fruit of the PUMAs, and the ability to portray dems as attacking the all American mom, as well as being able to scream sexism whenever they desire.
You people are a joke and your party has proven over the last 8 years. Step aside for the people that really do put “country first”.

This is classic Karl Rove-style politics. McCain has obviously given his campaign managers open-ended authority to do whatever it takes to win. They will say or do anything now that will throw Obama off kilter and keep both campaigns off the issues. When any issue-related speech is given by Obama, the McCain team will parse some comment or make up something or spin something. It keeps the morning news chatter churning out a lot about nothing. Why? McCain is using his brand as a maverick to win, one who bucks the system and his own party. The only problem is that his Palin pick sends his campaign sharply to the right. So, he really can’t mention the issues upon which he displayed his maverick side in a moderate, bi-partisan way-i.e. immigration, campaign finance, earmarking, stem cell research, etc. because his positions and efforts on those issues are the polar opposite of what the conservative base-”the right”- believe and the Republican party platform states. So who is he deceiving? The conservatives and his party leadership or the American people? Which McCain wants to govern and on whose issues-the conservatives or the moderates? I did have respect for McCain, but I don’t know who he is anymore.

Let’s see. We just bailed out Fannie and Freddie. Lehman Brothers is on the verge of collapsing. We have the highest rate of inflation in 27 years, the highest unemployment in five years, the highest deficit in history. We have people losing jobs, pensions, homes, health care and the opportunity to send their children for higher education. And ABC, all the media and the John McCain want to talk about both sides using the phrase, “lipstick on a pig.” Seventy percent of the media stories are about Sarah Palin. I wonder why? Are we trying to avoid the real issues?

For Right wing conspiracies and more of the same vote McPalin ’08

The best thing Obama can do now, is if he is asked “are you going to offer an apology?”, he should flatly say “no”. If he is pressed he should give a blunt comment about the deliberate misinterpretation of his comments, condemn the practice, and say “next question”. That’s all the response that this petulant republican argument deserves.

Wow! I thought Obama was above this kind of “mud slinging”. I guess he’s just the same.

It’s obvious that Oblahblah has never been to some well-needed therapy. He has more freudian slips than I have ever seen. Take that teleprompter away and he is very dangerous to his own campaign. Just the clumsy way he handled that “pig” line — I though you guys told me he was intelligent. I still haven’t seen the intelligent side of him.

Lipstick on a Pig. What a classic comeback. It’s funny how the McCain camp is trying to play the gender card and get all in a puff. Kind of hard for the GOP to be upset about this when McCain himself has used the phrase “lipstick on a pig” a number of times. But hypocrisy is what we have come to expect from the GOP and the McCain/Bush campaign.

The republicans’ comments on this board are so hypocritical that they fail to contain any evidence of rational thought and intelligence. I am saddened that this country appears to be 48% full of idiots.

ok Palin Question,
If Governor Sarah Palin is so grounded with the conception of life that she would not allow a women to choose an abortion …even when it come to rap or incest … then why does she support the Death penalty?
And I’m an independent so this is not a bias question
After all life is life …

Let McCain apologize to Romney and Hillary for using the same term to them. Now we have a woman canidate and the McCain camp wants to USE her gender for votes by usuing the gender card. Carl Rove should be in prison instead of advising McCain. I guess Bush and McCain are alike.

The Republicans obviously have no way to counter Obama on the issues if the best thing they can come up with are ways to twist Obamas phrases (that they themselves used) in order to make him appear sexist. Open your eyes America, the comments had NOTHING to do with Palin except for the fact she will not be bringing change to this country. Get over it. Stop reading the scripts and start talking about the issues.

Can you people not read?? Lipstick on a pig is a common phrase and has not been used by just Obama!!
McCain himself has used it.
Hello!!

OMG! FOR ONE I CANT BELIEVE THEY ARE LYING EVEN IN THERE “TRUTH” SQUAD, WELL YEAH I CAN BUT I ALSO CANT UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE THAT BELEIVE IT, LIKE THE FIRST POSTER! RETARDED!

The stupidity and hypocracy of republicans never ceases to amaze me….
BTW, it’s official. Rove is on McCain’s campaign. He admitted it yesterday.
Almost as good was Meggy McCain’s comment that nobody knows the pain that soldiers go through but her family.
HYPOCRITES!!!!

ok Palin Question,
If Governor Sarah Palin is so grounded with the conception of life that she would not allow a women to choose an abortion …even when it come to rap or incest … then why does she support the Death penalty?
And I’m an independent so this is not a bias question
After all life is life …Good question. I would also like to know since she talks pro-life why protected animals and animals in general dont fall under life. Wants the Polar Bear removed from the protected list and she likes to kill animals for sport, not food, not need, just for the fun of it.

Republicans are desperate, childish, lying hypocrites. This is nothing new. It’s typical. I probably wouldn’t recognize them if they acted any differently.

“I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” Winston Churchill

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated”
Mahatma Gandhi quotes

Look, let’s just call a spade a spade. Oh wait, did that come out wrong? Does that sound like I’m taking a cheap shot at Obama? (Big political crowd that supports me snickering and applauding in the background). You misunderstood me. I didn’t mean to imply anything bad (insert mock sincerity here). Really, I use that old saying all the time.
So take my word for it. Hey, I’m a politician. Would I lie to you? It was just an accident that I happened to use an old expression at a political rally that ALSO doubled as a razor sharp insult at my rival. I didn’t mean anything bad at all (fingers crossed behind my back).

and for a final quote “Don’t approach a goat from the front, a horse from the back, or a fool from any side.”

ok Palin Question,
If Governor Sarah Palin is so grounded with the conception of life that she would not allow a women to choose an abortion …even when it come to rap or incest … then why does she support the Death penalty?
And I’m an independent so this is not a bias question
After all life is life …Good question. I would also like to know since she talks pro-life why protected animals and animals in general dont fall under life. Wants the Polar Bear removed from the protected list and she likes to kill animals for sport, not food, not need, just for the fun of it.”
Good comment

This is stupid. I am going to vote for McCain but Obama did nothing wrong with the lipstick on a pig statement. It is an old saying and he wanted to makes his point. We should be arguing the point not some silly statement people have used many times.

Look She is a pig.
It’s TIME Democrats called it how it is!
It’s War
BBQ that Monster before she devours the world.
GO OBAMA
WE LOVE YOU

If Sarah Palin needs a “truth squad” to baby-sit her and protect such a sensitive, fragile woman, then maybe she shouldn’t be a heartbeat away from the presidency. Maybe she should baby-sit her own kids and go back to being a hockey mom instead of this faux politician she claims to be.
Obama used a very common expression that has been used for decades. Palin and her supporters need to get over themselves, surprisingly, this election is not about her. It’s about Obama vs. McCain. She’s a flash in the pan that the press has latched on to…Just like Sanjaya from American Idol, in an out as fast as his hair styles changed!

I remember a day when the world waved the American Flag-The day we landed on the moon. I remember a day when the world waved the American Flag–When the Berlin wall came down. Two great presidents and a world that respected us and looked up to us. Both times deplomacy was used. Matters of fact during the Cuban missle crisis, Kennedy’s Chief of staff and his four Generals all recommended invading Cuba. Kennedy didnt do what he was pressured to do but used his brain as a Commander in Chief should, and thank God he did. He didnt invade Cuba and the rest is history. Reagan also didnt fire a shot and used deplomacy. Obama says the same thing and the war should be the absolute last move. Two of the greatest presidents also took this path. Now does anyone acually believe that if McCains four Generals were recommending us to invade he would go against their wishes and use if brain and the power of deplomacy? I do not think so. We need someone intelligence in the White House. We used to be respected around the world. The world knew our military might and it went without saying. After 8 years of Bush the world not only looks down on us, but knows our military is spread so thin that we would be hard pressed if a national security or international emergancy came up. We need a new direction and a president that understands that deplomacy and international communication can keep us out of wars and earn the respect of the world. I want the world waving the American Flag again. Obama/Biden 08

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones at others. Republicans started the I am glad Obama is fighing back. For 18 months Obama has been thoroughly vetted, why not Palin for 18 days. A picture is emerging now that Palin as the mayor of Wasilla and Governor of Alaska,adopted the policies and tactics of the Taliban. Basically, she is violating the constitutional human rights of decent law abiding Americans by telling them it is my way or the highway and if you take the highway, I will attack you on the highway (Just like the Taliban). Palin fired a female librarian, who told Palin that she will uphold the standards laid down by the American library association. This is not what Palin wanted to hear and she fired her. Palin herself said that she is a pit bull with a lipstick and John McCain said that Hillary Clinton, s healthcare plan is similar to Obama’s plan and the only difference between them is one is pig with lipstick. So don’t get my sympathies because Obama is throwing punches. You are not a good boxer if you can only throw punches, you have to be able to take more of them if you have to prevail and that is why Ali was the greatest boxer. Interesting how history is being repeated. When Mondale selected Geraldine as his running mate the ratings went up and Mondale was leading but as soon as people realized and began to find out more about Geraldine, Walter Mondale’s tire was flat and the only state he won was his home state of Minnesota and the District of Columbia. On election day, worse case scenario for McCain, win in the state of Alaska. What we know about Palin so far is enough to swing back to the trusted and vetting ticket of Obama-Biden. As far as who will win this dead even fight as of today. I would say Que Sarah Sarah. Translation, whatever will be will be.

Whether Obama meant really meant it or not is NOT the point.
The fact is that he had whipped up a storm of the same magnitude as the ones the Obama camp made up in the primaries on Bill Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro. In earnest, did Bill and Geraldine meant harm ? … but it did cost Hillary the nomination.
So…I guess what goes around comes around.
OBAMA = race card, sexism card. CHANGE WE DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IN !!!

“If a candidate shows how stupid he is calling his opponents names. Obama is an insecure, arrogant and prickly man who isn’t sure what to do when his party’s attempts to smear the opposition by name calling.”
So I guess it’s OK for YOU to call someone names, just not anyone else? Typical republican hypocricy. Frankly calling her a pig is insulting…..to pigs. But that did not happen. Republicans zeroed in on the word lipstick, since Palin compared herself to a dog using the same word. Then the spin machine kicked in. It so laughably predictable of them to do this. Holier-than-thou self-righteous indignation and faux outrage is simply ‘Wednesday’ to these people…..

The Iceberg will fix the Titanic. Isnt that what McCain is saying when he says he can fix Washington, since he helped break it.

if it oinks like a pig and is growing fat on the back of working class americans it is mcpain and more pain
lipstick definitely is not going to help this duo. wake up america we have been in the muck and mire of a pig farm for the last eight years, it is just a new brood of pigs who will benefit the big fat cat lobbyist. we need to clean up the sty and it is going to take more than lipstick

Now I see McCain’s CHANGE. Every negative comment about his policies is an insult to Palin. That is the only change I have seen since he declared he was the candidate of change. Another example how politicans distort the truth and the public accepts it. Young adults reading this, remember: lying is acceptable even if it has to do with selecting the next president. Success comes with learning to lie effectively and is more important than truth.

Once again we see double stands. It seems like the Republicans can dole out the insults but they don’t know how to take one even if that isn’t the intent. Now, had Obama said if you put lip stick on a moose it’s still a moose I would have definitely thought he was talking about Palin. However, since the pig state seems to be so common with a book with the same title, I will believe his analogy.

Has anyone noticed how the media “switch” the morning after the Palin speech? Maybe it’s just me!

women of America it is a pity you are buying all this crap from the McCain camp when actually he is just using palin. you no what it means to be used, women have always been used in so many ways and this is one other example.and as it always is the men thinks we are so stupid and will always get away with it but I have always thought the American woman cannot be fooled but a good example to women around the world. Palin is not Hilary.

How dare the mccain folks think that Obama was trying to compare Mayor Palin to a pig, that would insult pigs everywhere.

‘putting lipstick on a pig
A term used by many, generally in reference to someone who may be trying to make something or someone look appealing or attractive when it quite clearly will not work, or will only deceive the dumbest of people.’
It clearly is, however, working and not only on the dumbest; how sad

Compelling? Does the actual truth fit somewhere into that definition?

I think it’s shameful that the McCain Campaign calls their own VP candidate a pig. Obama said nothing of the sort. He said that the Republican POLICY was like putting lipstick on a pig. They’re the ones who made the jump to Palin.

Finally! Enough is enough. Obama needs to use punchy sound bites and fight back. Put McCain and the whiney sneering snarkey Palins ( yeah both of them– given McCain’s promotion yesterday on the trail of the gun toting snow machine riding yahoo as a shining example of the second spouse) on the defense for a change. The Dems have been too polite for too long. BTW, we need the best and the brightest in the White House, not the mediocre and dimmest.

Perception is reality people. Whether he meant it or not, if it came across as insulting Palin that is all that matters.

It is evendent to me that the American people are in a great need for CHANGE! The ony way to truly CHANGE is to go back to your roots. As I see it Mr. Obamba’ roots do not lie in the USA but elsewhere and we as Americans need an American to leed us. I have not seen this in Mr Obamba but I have seen this it Sentor McCain.
I see that Mr Obamba has stated words out of context, this is common with inexperance. Maybe in 25 or 30 years he should try to run again but now is not his time to bring around CHANGE!!!
God Bless the U.S.A.

I was wondering why the McCain camp did not take an opportunity to spin this as an insult to Palin. Because he used the term in a way that could have been seen as disparaging as well. Oh well, so much for a rebuttal.

“Why should anyone believe McCain didn’t mean it about Hillary Clinton, but Obama meant it about Palin?”
Because it’s politics. Rabid Republicans will say it’s an insult, rabid Democrats will defend Obama and the rest of the electorate..the sane ones…will laugh, roll their eyes, and think “Someone tell me again..why should I vote for either of these clowns?”
Ignorance is bliss…and America is one hellaciously happy country.

hold your breath. I will tell you when he apologizes.

I’m from Southwest Virginia. “Put lipstick on a pig…” is a very old expression here meaning someone is trying to disguise the truth. Mr. Obama was not insulting Ms. Palin. He was simply stating that you can’t make the last eight years look like a success by trying to make it look like something its not. This shows how out of touch the McCain campaign is with ordinary people like us. Southwest Virginia is one of the often ignored areas of our country. Virginia will be a swing state and this little known, seldom heard part of the state intends to make its voice heard. I, for one, repeat “you can put lipstick on a pig…but it’s still a pig”. If McCain/ Palin can’t do more than this constant whining, I say…”if you can’t run with the big dogs…stay on the porch”.

Obama is going off the rails on the crazy train to quote Ozzy. The man is a nut, and if people would do what Hillary asked them to do: RESEARCH, they would see just what a whack job Obama really is. Educate yourself America. This Obama is no friend of the USA.

How dare the mccain folks think that Obama was trying to compare Mayor Palin to a pig, that would insult pigs everywhere.

‘ I have always thought the American woman cannot be fooled but a good example to women around the world. Palin is not Hilary.
Posted by: iofaith | Sep 10, 2008 8:36:55 AM’
the good news is that Palin is not Hillary for she, palin, has succeeded on her own merits. And of course people, including women, can be fooled look at how so many believed that MRS Clinton had experience, or that she was a feminist, or that she told the truth….

I am truly appalled at how grown up people are behaving on this page. I am a firm believer in free speech and if you would like to continue, go ahead. It’s just sad that you can’t have an honest debate on the issues and the people involved.
I have to say it is ridiculous that McCain’s camp is calling for an apology. McCain used this same rhetoric not so very long ago when refering to Hillary and her health care reform. He wasn’t referring to Hillary and Obama wasn’t referring to Palin. He does not need to apologize for anything. It’s a saying that has been around for AGES so to call it an insult to her is really a stretch.
This is political correctness going too far. Just because she is a woman, doesn’t mean every comment about her record, her demeanor, and such is a personal attack. As a woman, I for one am tired of hearing that. It does all woman a dis-service.

This is all too funny, its ok for McSame and Ms Palin to use endearing terms to make a point on reform but not Obama?
Wasn’t he referring to policy? I think some people have pretty thin skin alright. I remember the Republicans going after Hillary point blank with, “put your apron on and go back to the kitchen if you can’t take it.” Since McSame has picked up the “change” mantra from Obama they don’t know really what change is all about, thus the comments.
If Ms Palin wants to refer to herself as a vicious pitbull with lipstick thats ok, but she also inferred it to all hockey moms. Did I take offense? Was it a sexist remark?
Not all moms are like Ms Palin , to say the least,but does any of this have anything to do with being VP?

Is anyone truly surprised by this defense? It’s what I expected all along. Anything said in this campaign that can be twisted into a sexist remark, will be. McCain has said the same thing about the Clinton health care plan and I didn’t think he was talking about her. Maybe it was some weird Republican code and he was talking about her. McCain needs to let Palin get off the porch and start running with the big dogs. (Hey she compared herself to a pit bull so I can use that metaphor.) His campaign and allies have been in this protective mode, sheltering her from ad hoc media events. It makes me think they don’t have much confidence in her, which in turn, makes me think she may not be able to cut it on the world stage.

ENOUGH!!! I cannot believe how gullible the media and the people are. Senator Obama made a folksy statement which has been used by many before him, including McCain earlier this year, to express that one cannot change a truth simply by dressing it up. Much like “a wolf in sheep’s clothing”, “a new purse with old sow’s ears”. The media needs to challenge Senator McCain instead of giving him a platform on which to “debate” this ridiculous behavior. Also, I Governor Palin needs so much defending maybe she should not be running for the position of vice president and heaven forbid being next in line for president of the United States.

The article is silly, the implication by Gov. Swift is silly … this story reads like something going on among my 10-year-old daughter’s classmates. The nation has a lot at stake in its future — for the American people and the world as a global leader. Serious politicians aren’t supposed to get mired down in pettiness, and I’m sure Sen. Obama meant no harm in using an old-as-dirt expression.

Hey CW, It’s annoying when u nag about what Hillary would have done in response to McCain…you need to be quiet. She lost. You have a decision to cast your vote for who you want for President but that Hillary stuff is old and overdone. And if that’s what you base this on then you really weren’t for Hillary, you’re a republican in sheeps clothing. Vote for the people or team that best represent what you want for America. It’s ashame that the repubulicans once again are managing to split the UNITED States of America.

America, be aware of Obama’s arrogance! Remember what he said about small town workers clinging on religion, guns…?

Obama is proving himself to be like the pig Napoleon in George Orwell’s “Animal Farm,” desiring power for himself and taking America one step closer to communism… Obama is proving himself to be the true pig in this election… He is truly wallowing in the mud…

More than ever it is evident that Barach Obama is at the very least sexist and feels superior towards all women, not just republican women, but democrats as well. look at how he publicly embarrassed Senator Hillary Clinton, by choosing not to even vet her, and now he expects Hillary to come to his aid? Calling Governor Palin a “pig with lipstick” is a real shame, she is a good person and does not deserve that type of degrading talk from anyone let alone a man who is seeking the highest office in the land! Shame on him and his sexist views!

I think it was wrong for Sarah Palin to call all hockey moms dogs. Why does she hate all hockey moms?

Lipstick on a Pig. When will we learn. Fight fire with fire. You don’t respond with explanations of what the senator meant by the phrase, you Attack. The only response to this ginned up controversy should be:
“Of course if I was the McCain/ Palin campaign with breaking news items about Troopergate and charging the State of Alaska for nights spent in my home, I’d change the subject and react to a phony charge of calling me a pig.”
“Damn it Maverick, get in the fight!”
Top Gun

Well if he wanted to be politically correct he could have called her a sow.
This is ridiculous. McCain and Palin need to focus on the issues not stupid nonsense like this.

Keep talking, people. Please, keep talking.
Make no mistake about it, this was not a folksy statement. This was a fairly big miscalculation. How did he think this would play on Main Street? It speaks to his lack of sensitivity to female voters, and perhaps females in general. What a colossal blunder.

In lightr of Governor Palin’s recent joke about pit bulls and pigs, it was in poor taste for Obama to use the analogy of lipstick on a pig. Was it deliberate, just plain stupid, bad timing, or just another example of bad judgement? There are no other choices.
His comments were very unprofessional, and definately not Presidential.

If you put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig, Sweetie.

Barack can still always fall back on his old “ohhhh, i didn’t mean it like THAT!” excuse he’s used for everything.
Right…. Sweetie?

Funny that McCain attacks Obama for using the “lipstick on a pig” reference. However, as ABC News and CBS News report, McCain used the exact same term to describe Hillary’s healthcare program a few months ago, and McCain didn’t apologize for that.
He is such a LOSER.

Every single Republican commenting on the “audacity” of this statement clearly did not read the article. I am so TIRED of ignorant people touting the party line without bothering to read anything or do even one minutes worth of research. I am so MAD that the conservatives keep insisting on voting STUPID people into office (Bush partied his way thru school, McCain graduated LAST in his class and Palin went to 6 colleges in 6 years) who know NOTHING about economics, science, forgeign and domestic affairs. If ANY of you had HALF a brain you’d stop buying the rhetoric and do your research. I need a cup of coffee.

There is no room in politics or football for hurt feelings and whining over something as silly as this. Jane Swift sounds like my mother arguing with my father over whether or not he is sensitive enough. This is the big leagues people, hypersensitivity has no place in this game. Is Sarah going to have her Truth Squad bawl out Putin and Chavez if they are insensitive to her use of lipstick and how that might in some inane way relate to an idiomatic expression.

They wouldnt have hesitated to wrip Hilary to SHREDS !! Double Republican Standard as usual. Same ole, same ole.

I would say the McCain camp/supporters are a bunch of whiners, but then I might not be able to use that word – as they already coined it [Phil Gramm sayig we are a Nation of whiners (July 2008) and Sara Palin referencing Hillary Clinton) March 2008]
Geez – give me a break… oh wait, that was a TV show from the 80′s – can I still use that phrase?

Wow … Republicans want to make up this stuff about Obama, when they themselves have said exactly the same thing. Republican = hypocrite … right? How will they ever handle national security issues with Iran. When Iran’s leader makes a negative comment about the US, McCain and Palin and the republicans will make something up so they can cry poor me? I am more convinced than ever that we need to have Obama and Biden in there to handle the important national security issues we are facing!

Stacey Noble<<<McCain “might” cut your tax, but if his Health car plan passes he will raise your taxable income by making your Health care premium “Taxable” income. Oh yes and let us not see the whole picture! After lowering your “Tax rate” and raising your “taxable income” he will then continue to pander to the corporate special interests there by causing increases in the costs of all goods and services. I’m sure you’re a very good and capable mom, wife and perhaps even buisness woman, but “WE THE PEOPLE” including you must look beyond the rhetoric, lies and political smoke screen to the truth and path to a better nation and world for you children! Please, think, be curious and pull back the curtain of lies to expose the truth!!! The Republicans want you to vote AGAINST your own self-interests!!!

Stacey Noble…McCain “might” cut your tax, but if his Health car plan passes he will raise your taxable income by making your Health care premium “Taxable” income. Oh yes and let us not see the whole picture! After lowering your “Tax rate” and raising your “taxable income” he will then continue to pander to the corporate special interests there by causing increases in the costs of all goods and services. I’m sure you’re a very good and capable mom, wife and perhaps even buisness woman, but “WE THE PEOPLE” including you must look beyond the rhetoric, lies and political smoke screen to the truth and path to a better nation and world for you children! Please, think, be curious and pull back the curtain of lies to expose the truth!!! The Republicans want you to vote AGAINST your own self-interests!!!

I cannot believe some of you are actually suggesting this was about Palin. You’re idiots..simply idiots

Perhaps the Palin Truth Squad should publish a guide for the media on what words candidate Obama is allowed to use. Because, so far, every day there is a new whine and defense for the words used by the media and candidate Obama.
Doctors and studies will tell you, the difference between an adult and a child is that if both have their toes stepped on, a child cannot discern whether it is deliberate but an adult can know the context.
I’ve heard of acting younger, but behaving as a 4-year old is a real stretch for the McCain campaign that published this juvenile complaint.

The so-called “News’ Media are not doing their work. This should not be news. Asking Palin to discuss policies should be news. The economy, the war in Iraq, in Afghanistan, foreclosures, education should be the news. Like McClellan said if you the journalists did their job, we wouldn’t have gone to war in Iraq.
Shame on all of you. I am so disgusted. We are all going down because of a few self absorbed people.

what’s the big deal? she already compared herself to a dog in lipstick, so why not a pig? republicans are ridiculous with their false outrage.
Posted by: pongo———–Because the Republicans would rather focus on things like this, than debate issues and policies.

I’m sorry if Clinton or anyone else inthis race had said, “Let’s call a spade a spade” or “the boy who cried wolf” The entire MSM would explode in an orgy or racist accusations.
Let’s call a spade a spade folks, Obama hates women and denegrates his female candidates all the time.

Bill and Hillary must be laughing up a storm. What goes around comes around.

Some people are really really stupid, I cannot beleive that until I read what they can think. The person who is talking about Obama being Muslim? Do you have any proof of that or your are only repeting it because Mcain campaign told you so? They are brainwashing you poor people. They are politicians and they know the rules: “We will keep saying the same things to them and for sure some stupid ones will beleive us.” Poor you!!! You are easy to be duped. Anyway, vote for Mc Cain as once you voted for Bush since you prefer to live in poverty than voting for a black person.

Please refer to the Daily Show’s commentary on the Palin Gender Card from Weds 9/3. When Hillary was still in the race, the GOP and it’s media cronies were unforgiving the second she opened her mouth about being a woman, claiming she shouldn’t be running if she can’t run with the big dogs. Funny now how they have their own set of XX chromosomes, they’re so quick to pull the gender card and call it bias. I’m so sick of Republican hypocrisy, contradiction and failure to see reality.
Hey ABC News…why does it always take so long to load political punch? It kills my computer every time!

We see the real Obama when he is losing in the polls: a sexist, arrogant, and downright unrespectable person.
Obama has had to cut ties with many people in order to run for president. Obama’s statements prove that bad habits die hard.
Obama is a pig.

The Democratic Party better conjure up some Mojo. I am not pouring money and effort into getting Barack Obama elected to see it disapear like Gore and Kerry. Get the machine moving!

The people getting all up in arms about Obama’s comments either don’t understand the idiomatic uses of the English language or have fallen prey to an issue created by the flame-fanning media. Is there any possibility this was an intentional double-entendre? Of course there is!!! This is serious business, but it’s also a game: a game for grownups, that is. Grow up and get in the game, whiners.

Please, someone tell me this idiocy is all just a bad dream so I can wake up to a world where people actually think.

Tom – small town Indiana: Bravo! Well said!

freudian slip??? I would think so except Biden used lipstick and a introduction to Obama used the term lipstick!!! DUMB? INEXPERIENCED? SNOTTY? YES to all of the above. NOT PRESIDENTIAL!!!! YES

By that logic, we should not elect McCain and Palin either.
Palin has been associated with the Alaskan Independence Party and McCain with the mafia.
Obama seems far more presidential, he has not used attacks that are clearly aimed at the person- this one about the pig is debatable. If you would read up the thing about Ayers, you’d find Obama is not all buddy-buddy with him.
McCain is the one who has a longer record of insulting women-Chelsea Clinton and his wife, remember?
Obama is not a Muslim. He was talking about rumours about his being a Muslim. And even if he were a Muslim, I don’t see him dressing his wife and daughter in a chador, so he seems like a moderate Muslim then, eh?

Obama is the real pig here and I do believe he meant to call Palin a pig. I supported Hillary and now I will be voting for McCain/Palin.
I don’t agree 100% with either candidates, but Palin has made it much easier to choose.
McCain/Palin 08

In Iowa last October, McCain drew comparisons between Hillary Clinton’s current healthcare plan and one she had championed previously: “I think they put some lipstick on the pig, but it’s still a pig.” He used the same line again in May.

When you can’t talk about the issues, you talk about lipstick.

It shows that the GOP has ZERO to say. They are hypocrites of the highest order and would prefer to talk about nothing that about the real issues.
And guess what…. after last week and the fake storm McSame kicked up about the “media” they are just now repeating what he wants them to say. Pathetic.

ok Palin Question,
If Governor Sarah Palin is so grounded with the conception of life that she would not allow a women to choose an abortion …even when it come to rap or incest … then why does she support the Death penalty?
And I’m an independent so this is not a bias question
After all life is life …

BTW, where is Senator McCain’s flag pin?
He didn’t wear one when he accepted the nomination. He hasn’t worn one at any speech that he’s given since then that I’ve seen footage of.
So let’s get this straight. Obama is not patriotic because he doesn’t wear one, but because McCain served and was a POW he doesn’t have to wear one, despite his own standard set for Obama. Does McCain and his disciples realize that by doing this he’s equated his service and POW status to a lapel pin? Seriously has nobody realized this?
And what about Meggy Mac telling a newscaster that nobody knows about how soldiers suffer but her family? Really? REALLY? Oh and before you GOP thugs jump on the “family is off limits” bandwagon double standard, Meggy went on a prime time news show, making her a surrogate. Fair game. Kind of like Cindy’s explaining that proximity to Russia equates to foreign policy experience for Palen.

Let me break the code for you. If it is coming out of the current McShame campaign it is a half truth a smear or an outright lie. When the media just refuses to confront these people directly it does not do its job. Before Iraq the media failed to do it’s job /. Over 4999 brave America lie silent because of that sad fact.

The Republicans would rather spend the rest of the campaign creating fake issues like the lipstick case rather than focus on the issues that afflicting this country, a bad economy, inadequate health care, foreclosures, global warming. Don’t be fooled by the smoke and mirrors.

The simple truth
If Sarah Palin can not handle a press conference with the media, she can not handle being vice president
The simple fact

Do not compare McCain’s comment on Clintons’s policy with Obama’s on Palin. Several days ago Palin just used the lipstick phrase in her great speech. Obama is either extremely ignorant or arrogant to give such a comment.—- Obama should apologize!!!

The simple truth
If Sarah Palin can not handle a press conference with the media, she can not handle being vice president
The simple fact

As well as Obama is educated, he could have used better choice of words. Why use any statement that can be used against you. I’m afraid that we are at the point when a candidate injures their ring finger and removes the wedding ring, the media and opponents will question the marital relationship of the candidate.

Lipstick on a pit bull, hockey mom or lipstick on a pig. You decide. Obama should have never said that because too many people could have/would have thought Obama was referring to Sarah Palin’s comment she had made at the convention. The other people who are being quoted were not talking about Sarah and the hockey mom statement (this was before Sarah’s comments were ever heard). John McCain’s doesn’t wear lipstick. Obama’s audience certainly knew who he was referring to. He opened his mouth and put his foot in there. I bet he regrets it today because the voters are hearing about it now for the 2nd day. Damage done.
He’s back tracking on the surge, the no child left behind (agrees w/Bush now), what’s next, after going after McCain’s honor and calling them liars and saying Palin is stretching her record. And his party hackers are sent to dig on Palin’s background while 3 democratic leaders are involved in the investigation of her firing the safety official in Alaska. Change, Obama? We can’t trust your change. You just want to smear to win not win to lead.

It’s entertaining that people are calling women dumb. How about followers who worship an inexperienced politician because he gives them “hope and inspiration” and because he didn’t vote for a war. Now women, who have always been swing voters, are being criticized for doing the same exact thing. I think there are idiots in both parties and they are not just female.

Frankly, I think this is a talking point for the Republicans; could the comment be construed as slamming Palin? Yeah, maybe – MAYbe. It probably WAS “sort of” aligned with Palin’s hockey mom/lipstick comment, as sort of a snide backhand. But, in fairness, the expression Obama used IS a common one in the context he used it in – either way, let’s stop flogging this horse and go on to bigger & better things

Frankly, I think this is a talking point for the Republicans; could the comment be construed as slamming Palin? Yeah, maybe – MAYbe. It probably WAS “sort of” aligned with Palin’s hockey mom/lipstick comment, as sort of a snide backhand. But, in fairness, the expression Obama used IS a common one in the context he used it in – either way, let’s stop flogging this horse and go on to bigger & better things

This is part and parcel for small town parochial thinking. I live in a small town after living in one of the largest cities for 25 years. I can tell you that it is a town full of small thinkers. Small minds, narrow views and I have to just ignore them to be happy. Palin and crew are small town fish in a BIG pond and pretty soon shark with lipstick is going to come around. She will be the lunch. So put some bacon with lipstick on that!

Go right ahead you Obams/Biden haters and women who can’t get over the fact Hillary lost and vote for Mcain/Palin. By doing so, you decide that citizens of this country get a $5,000 credit to pay for health insurance, decide what judges will be on the Supreme court, wipe out the middle class by supporting NAFTA. Go, right ahead. My vote will be for Obama/Biden.

I can not believe that this is even in the news. Talk about irresponsible journalism. Obama’s words have been taken completely out of context. I listed to Palins speech and to Obama’s- I don’t see any correlation between their two comments- she was comparing soccer moms to pitbulls and he was using an old saying to emphasize that McCain’s campaign is still the same old thing. If anything McCain’s campaign is sexist for attacking Obama for using the word “lipstick”. Obama has nothing to apologize for and any intelligent person should be able to see that.

This is getting ridiculous.

The world is too complex for academic misfits to rule

Typical tactics by the Republican party.
One only has to look back at their claims that:
1]Obama was making an issue of John McCain’s age when he said the McCain had “lost his bearings”.
2]Obama was playing the “race card”.
3]The media SO biased against Sarah Palin and that she won’t give interviews unless she is treated with “respect and deference” (and won’t even name a single media organization that they have an issue with except the National Enquirer).
Let’s face it, if the Democrats were doing the same thing the Republicans would just call them “whiners” and complain about why a VP candidate, who’s a heartbeat away from being President would be ducking interviews with less than 60 days left before the election.

Senator Obama is a blithering disaster without a prepared text and a teleprompter. Can you imagine the result if he spoke to any Arab leader in such terms? But of course, we are to believe in his highly vaunted ‘judgment.’

I could give a crap about putting lipstick on a pig. I just know that it is becoming increasingly difficult for me to balance my practically nonexistent budget because we are in a recession, price of food is going up, we are in two wars with the possibility of a third (Afghanistan) and we there is the Georgia/Russia issues.
Obama is right. You can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig. I don’t care how you paint it. Based on the policies that McCain adopted to pursue over the course of the next four years, I can’t afford to take care of my kids and my older parents on my budget. I can’t. People are losing their homes and too many Americans are without healthcare. We need a change and it isn’t going to happen with McCain.
We cannot afford for the democrats to lose this election.

All the republicans can do at this point is engage in the ridiculous to shift the subject away from their failures that have been compounding for 8 disastrous years. They can’t talk about the issues because their model of governance is a proven failure.

I can’t believe how fast this campaign has gotten nasty & dirty!!! Now all the news media outlets can talk about is a “pig comment”!!! Its amazing to me that when McBlame says the SAME comment in regards to Hillary’s health care proposal NO ONE accused him of calling her a pig. But of course, NOW when OBAMA says the same comment, he’s accused of calling Palin a pig. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!! Is this actually the behavior of rational mature adults or are we back in jr. high school? I just watched FOX/fix news and they’re actually implying that YES Obama meant to call her a pig while they convienently ommitted McShame’s same comment about Hillary. Now, that doesn’t surprise me at all of course since everyone knows how slanted they are to RepubliCaNs. But now every other media outlet is hopping on the same bandwagon. Lets be fair people! It seems to me we should have one rule. If Obama was calling Palin a pig, then McCain was calling Hillary Clinton one. If McCain wasn’t, then Obama wasn’t. End of story. Focus on the friggin’ issues and leave this childish crap on the playground!! We are being cheated people. Cheated out our 1 chance to REALLY make a difference in our children’s lives. McCain talks about change then turns around and hires Steve Schmidt to head his campaign. The same man who ran Bush’s campaign in ’00. The same man who was behind the smear campaign AGAINST MCCAIN in SC by suggesting his adopted black daughter was really his illegitimate love child!!! Does that matter to McShame? HELL NO!!! Its all about winning now and ALL the stops are being pulled out. Lets face it, at his age (72) this is his last shot at the Oval office and he’s going to do EVERYTHING to acheive his goal. Even run the kind of negative campaign he swore he wouldn’t. Even if it means using Karl Rove behind the scenes. After all, “Bush’s Brain” did such a great job beating him before, didn’t he???
Wake up people…Our country needs you to make the right choice! Eight is Enough!!!!!!

Can the Republican Party look anymore foolish? Odd are, yes, they can. How silly.

If this lipstick issue insults women then women should be insulted with John McCain used against Hillary. Women who are insulted by this should be insulted because anyone who thinks that women are sensative about this are pretty stupid.

I can’t believe the stupid idiots who are claiming Obama was talking about Palin.This has gotten so bizarre and crazy.Get a life, PLEASE!!!

I know many agree with me when i say I CANNOT WAIT for the debates to start. You deny press interview for Palin now but we’ll see how well “cliff notes for foreign policy” had served her the past two weeks when Biden WIPES the floor with her lipsticked gun toting self.
Amen!
time for truth to come out and debate the issues!
OBAMA BIDEN 2008

Mc-Pal will not qualify to run for any office in any other country. Only in America will academic misfits aim to become president. God bless America

“It’s about jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs — a four-letter word,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday, discussing possible contents of a stimulus package.
She spoke just days after the government reported that the unemployment rate bolted to 6.1 percent in August, the highest rate in five years. Economists took the jump as a recession warning.
Also, business growth is slowing, food and energy prices remain high and the housing and financial markets remain distressed.
“While Obama is emphasizing the “lousy economy,” McCain is trying to divert attention to “the narrative of biography and character” of himself and his running mate, said Norm Ornstein, a political analyst with the American Enterprise Institute.
Republicans-with help of the GOP-controlled media-want to use their famous Weapons of Mass Distraction to try to limp their way into the White House.

One of the very few things in which I disagree with Obama, is his confidence in the intellegence of the American people. I hope he is right, but during this stage of the election, we are acting like complete idiots. The Dems should HAMMER HOME the issues. ISSUES, ISSUES, ISSUES.

I am sure these were pre-planned tactics by teh GOP when they selected Palin. They want to inject sexism and bias where it does not exist. they want to shelter the candidate from speaking on her own for fear they cannot script it. they want avoid press interviews with the news media, but lambast a talk show host who is not having ANY of the candidates on it during the election.
The GOP is scared of the truth and their real record of four more bush years that they wish to hide from the issues and cause the dialogue to shift to unimportant things.
Let Palin onto the View, let palin on Fox, CBS, ABC, NBC, etc. Let Bob Woodward interview her. Lets talk to the all those she fired or tried to fire who did not support her.
Lets hear from the REAL McCain and Palin! maybe they are just a wizard behind the curtain or jsut another “star” SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS AT

whatever Maccain is doing,
Obama/Biden will win this election.
Cell phone only users are very much underestimated in the poll.
And now, 20 percent of voters are cell phone only users.
And 60 percent of cell phone only users are obama supporters.
some polling include them. but they select only 7 percent of registered voters which is not representing the reality of 2008.
so don’t be surprised on Nov.4th.

firebreather – you’re right we need some answers from Obama the precious. The MSM Obama lovefest has prevented getting answers to any real questions regarding his character and his questionable friends. It was Feb. before the MSM revealed Obama’s crazy old “uncle” Rev. Wright. It took Obama 700+ days to appear in an interview on Fox with Mike Wallace. Yet now all we hear is how Palin is being hidden by the campaign and won’t do interviews. What a joke!! We STILL ARE WAITING for answers on Obama’s character. Since Obama will only agree to 3 debates (after saying “anytime/anywhere”), we can only hope that one of the moderators will ask him some tough questions about all of the smoke surrounding him i.e. Rezko, Ayers, Auchi, Odinga, but somehow I doubt it with all of the liberal MSM kid glove treatment. Double standards abound for Obama once again.

I am truly offended by Mr. Obama’s comment about lipstick on a pig. All women, black and white, should be offended at this sexist remark. The men of America should be offended by this remark! Again we get a glimpse of Obama’s true colors – no apology or backsliding required, Mr. Obama because you won’t be believed. America needs to wake up to the REAL Obama.

Republicans and its media are trying to divert the debate into a petty slung show between Obama vs Palin so people forget their real problems that are Economy, Home Forclosures,Unemployment, Education, Healthcare, Broken Military, Debts and Deficits, so forth…
This “incorrect agenda” is very convenient to the guilty republicans claiming to bring even change after Bush administration. The “correct agenda” instead would speak for itself and people of America would know beyond any doubt who to vote for.

Posted by: Jim Rod | Sep 10, 2008 9:31:13 AM – You twist and then object to what Obama said, and then accuse Obama and hence the rest of us of terrorism? You are the mind and voice of all republicans.

This is more crap from the GOP; it’s prvoen that McCain has used the same phrase. Can they spell “hypocrisy”? Probably not. Didn’t Jesus say something about watching out for hypocrites? Americans should insist on a higher standard of debate. On the issues, the Repubs are morally bankrupt.

Obama has a pattern of being disrespectful to women. Remember how he did Hillary with those little comments. He certainly has a thing against any woman who gets in his way. Look how Joe Biden said that odd comment about his wife when he introduced her the day Obama announced he was his running mate.
I think this shows what the man is. He sure is not presidential. As much as President Bush has been attacked by the left and their supporters, he has never went that low to say these things that Obama has said. Think about that.

Amazing how the Reptilian, eh I mean Republican, machine continues to use outright lies and exaggeration to confuse the facts.
This phrase has been used enumerable times by both parties representatives. Maybe the repubs should be excoriating Palin’s speech writers for having her call herself a female dog. She did you know. Did she know the sentence was in there before she read it? Of course, she practiced for two days on that joke of a speech.

HE doesn’t owe her anything. I say the gloves should have come off after she became the “attack dog with lipstick” at the RNC. She had a lot to say then however when he makes this comment about a pig wearing lipstick, obviously talking about the fact that McCain is trying to use different wording for the same broken policies and calling it “Reform” then the Dems are being too hard on her or sexist…Puleeeeeze. If she can’t take the heat she needs to get out the kitchen.

I’m convinced the McCain campaigners will use anything concievable to their advantage, including childish and dirty tactics. If they were to claim that Obama is not playing by the rules because he is actually from the planet Neptune, 75% or more of Republican supporters would endorse this position and begin swearing by it.
It’s mindless, it’s stupid, and it has absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to do with the very serious problems our country is facing.
Name calling. Sheesh. Are you people really adults?

This is ridiculous. The McCain campaign can’t win on issues, so McCain is hiding behind Palin’s skirt.
Some maverick.

Do NOT apologize to this woman or campaign. This is so incredibly transparant. “If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a duck”. Oh wait, sorry, Palin and McCain, I didn’t mean to call you a duck. How insane. Really, can Americans really be this stupid to buy into what the Republicans are saying. To use one of Palin’s overused lines, “I’m saying, thanks, but no thanks” to McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Liz | Sep 10, 2008 9:45:32 AM – You like McCain just don’t get it. The phrase doesn’t lessen women it says that you can’t take someting less than a woman and make it as great as a woman. GET IT?

Hi valerie j.
It takes two to tango.
I was pointing to what(in my mind) was the latest big bang that started this era of uncooperativeness.
Before Florida and the Supreme Court, we were almost civil.

Republicans are getting pathetic and hypocritical beyond belief. Have you people no shame? Maybe he should have referred to a woman’s genitals and then MCain could have patted him on the back.

Obama didn’t call Palin a pig but nice to know McCain thought he was referring to her.

Does anyone honestly care what McBush has to say? I mean really? Who cares.

Sure Obama and Biden will be elected … when pigs fly.

Lipstick on a trainwreck.
Obama doens’t look like he can take the pressure. That worries me if he becomes president.
I thought Obama was supposed to be a skilled orator. He doesn’t talk any better than George Bush.

McCain and Palin need to just let this drop.
Obama is clearly rattled and not handling the pressure of being behind very well.
At worst, he was trying to be cute in twisting Palin’s famous Hockey Mom / Pitbull statement.
At best, he just showed the kind of bad judgment that we would expect from him.

Surely a man smart enough to be elected president should have foreseen how these remarks would be taken. Don’t Harvard law grads know the impact of words?

“Let us make the frenzied media assault our WAKE UP CALL that if we do not take action now we will lose this election. Let the attacks of the elite media on this special woman be constantly remembered and rally us to victory.
Many (especially older voters) are fooled by the supposedly unbiased anchors. When we listen to the elite media and see their comments. These are the people who vetted Obama with the same tenacity as a mother vetting her child. In contrast we all watched as the elite media salivated like wolves snarling and slashing at the Governor and her little daughter before Governor Palin’s speech. Then immediately after the speech (when they had gathered the entire pack for the vetting kill of “this woman”), we saw fear on their faces. They had that undeniable acute depressive look of a bad cop caught with his hand on the throat of an innocent woman.
Some in the media had the integrity to apologize and some (like Olberman and The “hard ball” liberal were fired but others (like the CNN crowd) are unrepentant and now they are reuniting the pack. Like herd out of a Thomas Kuhn novel they are intellectuality rationalizing their abhorrent behavior and reforming as would a clutch of corrupt policemen.
The pundits on both sides are excused –they admit their bias but these “Journalists” are like a doctor who prescribes you a drug without telling you he/she is getting a kickback! For all those professionals who use the public trust to advance their own agenda— the Olberman firing is your wake up call–that one is for you!!
We must recognize that the founders of America never planned for a biased media with a stranglehold on most of the news America reads and sees. The field is unbalanced yet we must win, in part because those who unbalanced this election must not be allowed to prevail. All of us must dig deeper to support Senator McCain and Gov. Palin. Get involved NOW and/or send as much as you can afford NOW –The media is doing their best to elect their chosen one –lets all do our part ASAP. Dealing with Media bias is like dealing with a corrupt police force –they will always self justify. They will not fix themselves. Go to the McCain site and get involved and/o donate as much as you can afford today. Let’s get America back and show for all of history that in America the media cannot anoint our leaders.
***Again enough talk– the field is unequivocally unlevel–Go to the McCain site and get involved and/o donate as much as you can afford today.***

You know, can we should think about this.
Some people are saying that Obama should have picked Hillary, he’d certainly win more easily.
Shouldn’t that SAY SOMETHING about Obama if he DIDN’T do that? Picking Hillary could smooth him an EASIER path to the White House, but he CHOSE not to do that. Why? Maybe because he places the country, not winning an election first! Because some of Hillary’s views contradict his, and she would have to immediately fall in line- and she wouldn’t seem genuine then-that wouldn’t be good for Hillary or Obama. Because Joe Biden can make up alot for foreign policy experience in the long run.
McCain, on the other hand, has proudly proclaimed he would rather lose the election then lose a war, that he places his country first. Well then, why did he rope in Ms Palin in an attempt to energize his Republican base and keep on flip-flopping on issues? If he placed his country first, he would have factored in the possibility he is not able to complete his term and chosen a veep more people knew and was more experienced.

The comment was not an insult directed at Palin, it was an insult directed at John McCain. Palin is the lipstick; McCain is the pig.

Given Obama’s audience’s reaction to his comment, if he did not in fact mean it as a slight to Palin, he should have immediatelly cleared the air and explained that he intend to allude to her. Instead he reveled in the moment and kept talking.
The man is scared, for the first time he is behind in the polls and is in the same shoes Hillary Clinton was in for so much of the primary.

Thanks, Jake! The GOP is getting paranoid and hysterical, and so are their followers, about this! It’s a very old expression, McCain used it previously, and Obama used it appropriately!! It has nothing to do with gender or Palin, and this staged victimization of Palin is an insult to intelligent women and voters everywhere! How stupid!

“John McCain says he’s about change too, and so I guess his whole angle is, ‘Watch out George Bush — except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics — we’re really going to shake things up in Washington,’” he said.
“That’s not change. That’s just calling something the same thing something different. You know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig. You know you can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, it’s still going to stink after eight years. We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”
THAT’S what the desperate GOP is whining about? lol!

Do you think Ms. Palin will be standing up today and lying – again – for her man?
What’s it going to take for this woman to realize McCain has had women around all his life doing the dirty work for him.
Palin, you’re just the next one in line.
Wake up!!!

If the shoe fits…… Unbelievable that people buy in to the republican campaign tactics. Answer me this McSame devotees: For those of you making less than $200,000 per year, what have the Bush economic policies done to improve your life? The republican party simply USES the socioeconomic strata of this country. They raise issues that have absolutely no bearing on people’s lives and – trough constant repitition – manipulate the uneducated in this nation. WAKE UP! The republican machine cares about one thing and one thing only – MONEY. They don’t give a tinker’s damn about the average working class American family.

McCain himself used the phrase more than once, including last year, when he was talking about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 1990s health care plan. He said last October, “I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.”
So….the big deal McCain having now is ____? Is his senility worse than we’re being told?

So if Obama owes Palin an apology, then I guess McCain owes Hillary one..for using “THESE EXACT WORDS” when referring last Oct to Hillary’s healthcare plan….the ONLY one playing sexism in this campaign is McCain!!!!

As a person who works in government, I don’t know how politics have become a game of lies. Don’t tell the truth about your opponent because Americans are to lazy to discover the truth about what a particular canidate espouses. We have had a President everyone says they can drink a beer with, now we want a Vice-President. As Americans, have we stoop to mediocrity, we always wanted the best and the brightest to lead our country…now that doesn’t matter. I liked Bill and Hillary. I was basically just starting into the work world, but if we know the country is in bad shape and Americans are going to vote for someone just because they are a women or have a women on the ticket or African Amercan then America deserves to sink a little bit lower. Barack is just a few years younger than me and sooner or later the torch has to be passed. Lying to the American people and calling it “politics” is Wrong. I have two daughters one in college and one in high school. They deserve better.

Biden’s comments about special needs tells his views on stem cell research and Obama’s comments about McCain being more of the same (same Bush policies) is just that. They’ve given you guys a lot of latitude on teen pregnancy, Palin’s crazy religious views and have tried to discuss politics. Why? I suppose they’re more capable and have a message. I guess the GOP just isn’t as capable.
One more thing, the media is doing a crack job of focusing on “My Muslim faith” and taking it out of context. What would be great is if the media spent more time trying to focus on the issues, too. Palin’s crazy religious views I disagree with personally, but it doesn’t disqualify her from the job. Why can’t you determine if she’s been fiscally responsible about the plane she sold on e-bay (sold at a loss, because she couldn’t sell it on e-bay), a renovation to a mansion that she hardly ever used, McCain’s record about him voting with Bush 90% of the time (Obama could be wrong), Obama’s stint as a community organizer, etc. Those are the issues and its sad that the media’s investigative journalism has slipped to National Inquirer level reporting.

ok, we all better leave Obama alone. Give him another pass after what he did to Mrs. Clinton with his finger. Come on, don’t won’t to see him cry. Poor baby. She said pitbull not pig.

We can’t really be having this debate. Has anybody ever heard of metaphors, similes,hyperbole, etc? What were the real comparisons here? If we are too dumb to figure it out, then we shouldn’t even be in this discussion

Obama is self destructing and this was an obvious slur to anyone with a brain. He caleld Palin a Pig and McCain a stinkiy old fish.
Obama is going down like the titanic and you liberals know it. You are scared to death of Palin and have to resort to childish smears about her family and background.
I can’t wait till November 4, 2008.
GO MCCAIN/PALIN!!!!!!!!!!!

The McCain campaign are the sexist they are the ones that chose Palin only after they knew that Obama had not chosen Hillary.They are the ones that are using Palin as a sheild to now cry foul.I know that Palin is being used,by the GOP and so do alot of others he hurried to pick her so that he could say look I can be different all though it is a farce.They know that Obama wasn’t referencing Palin when he made the statement about lipstick, but now they can cry like little boys beacause they can make it sound as if she is constantly being attacked.That is the reason that she was the chosen one,they are the ones being sexist.

I think the debates will but a lot of this talk to rest. Governor Palin has some explaining to do and looking cute is not going to be good enough.
There’s a big difference between Alaska and the lower states and she won’t be able to HUNT her way to the white house.

So the pit-bull’s whimpering now? If you can’t take the heat, go back to Alaska!

Hillary save your career and stay far away from Obama the sexist pig, I hope you run in 2012

The republicans have become shrill and hysterical.
They have truly lost their minds.
They must know that they have lost.

It is pretty clear Obama was speaking to the McBush attempt to re-package old Bush policies, which is a pig-in-a-poke. And lipstick won’t change it.
Besides she referred to herself as a dog with her lipstick joke.

Speaking of hypocrisy, how can John McCain and Sarah Palin be both anti-choice and pro death penalty? They both purport to be deeply religious, but they only comply with “thou shalt not kill” when it is politically expedient! It’s time to get away from conservative hypocrisy. Vote Obama!

Yes, McCain used the same phrase, to Republican laughs, referring to Hillary Clinton’s policies. This is more GOP posturing and dirty tricks! The rest of us understand Obama’s meaning and context, and it had nothing to do with women or Palin! It means the same as when McCain said it, for Pete’s sake!!!

Republican need to stop crying about their hurt feelings, and start focusing on real issues. Grow up.

Obama wasn’t using his tele-prompter and reverted to his Rev. Wright/Trinity church roots. You can take Obama out of Trinity church, but you can’t take trinity church out of Obama. The real G.D. America candidate.
Palin is so refreshing, and caring, a real winner. She has our vote!

Was Obama really referring to Palin when he made the “lipstick on a pig” remark? Probably not. As he says he might have really been referring to McCain’s economic policies.
Let’s assume he wasn’t referring to Sarah Palin. If he shouldn’t be chastised for being sexist or calling a woman a “pig”, then he SHOULD be chastised for being so stupid.
Certainly Obama knew Sarah Palin made the hockey mom and pit bull statement only a few days earlier and that common sense dictates that if he were to make the “lipstick on a pig” remark at the time he did he might be misinterpreted.
McCain is presently ahead of Obama by at least one or two points. In some polls, by even more. Since the conventions are now finished Obama has one last possibility to pull ahead. He needs to do well in the debates.
He can NOT afford to make utterly stupid mistakes like the “pig” remark. If he does, McCain has the election locked.

” If Christian fundamentalists are to be believed, America’s invasion of Iraq and the consequent brutal slaughter of thousands of innocent civilians in that country are all part of a grand divine plan that will finally culminate in the ’second coming’ of Jesus Christ.
Establishing an empire that will extend all over the globe, Christ will rule like a powerful monarch, saving those who believe in him and dispatching non-believers, all non-Christians and non-conformist Christians, to everlasting perdition in hell. This is no childish nonsense for millions of Christian fundamentalists, who sincerely believe this to be predicted in the Bible. Not surprisingly, American Christian fundamentalists are today among the most fanatic supporters of Bush’s global imperialist wars, in Iraq and elsewhere, which they see as in keeping with the divine mandate. They are no eccentric or
lunatic fringe elements, for today Christian fundamentalists exercise a powerful influence in American politics. Among them is George Bush himself, who insists that the American invasion of Iraq has been sanctioned by God, with whom he claims to be in personal communication.” – Best quote I ever read.

I think this is so funny that the GOP is crying foul about everything now. They have no other angle. That’s why they brought Palin in, they’re not stupid. They gonna play the sexism and disability card now. What a bunch of sore losers. Get over it, America wants change! I don’t hear anyone asking palin to apoligize by asking the question that started this childish arguement, “What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit-bull?” If you’re gonna open yourself up to that, don’t cry like a baby when a common phrase is used against your PARTY. Listen to what he said, he clearly was NOT addressing Palin, he was addressing McCain’s politics. Pathetic reps.

jpt,I am sure Obama is not that much dumb yet to mean what he said. However, what he said was in appropriate at this time. Also, Binden used similar statements and looks to me Obama campaign is really scared and making controversial statements to generate some media attention.
Lately did anyone notice his grim face. He is incapable and inexperienced in controlling his emotions.

The Palin Truth Squad is appropriately headed by the Jane Swift – of “Swift” Boat fame.

One of the first comments way above said how Republicans are hypocrites and religious fanatics because they support the death penalty but, are pro life when it comes to unborn babies.

This is like the finger on the nose at Hillary. His writers need to think before they write or he needs to proof read before repeating. He knew people would relate the lipstick to her comment about the pit bull and hockey moms she made at the convention. Got plenty of laughs so he thought he would try it. My suggestion to Obama is start the brain before putting the mouth in gear.

Personally, I don’t care who puts lipstick on pigs or pit bulls. Sarah Palin is neither. She’s just a tool – a Rovian tool being used by the right wing faction of her party placed on the ticket so that John McCain can avoid real issues. Can’t win on issues so let’s talk about how big bad Obama is being mean to poor little Sarah. I don’t much like the thought that McCain is hiding behind Palin’s skirt to get out of having a real discussion about important stuff. I’m disappointed that he chose the Rovian way of making this election another one about culture rather than about the real issues. And I thought he was a maverick?????

No the McCain camp cried foul… not the voters. They put out a statement for her, cuz she’s just not ready to deal with the media questions at this time. She can repeat prepared statements and speeches. A very will trained pit-bull. Sarah, sit, roll-over, speak.

Another distraction from the Republican’s to get off point. First of all John McCain in October was the first to make the pig remark and he was referring to Hillary. Secondly, when the reporter referred to Hillary as “a bitch” I didn’t hear McCain making any apologies. Women wake up and see that if McCain/Palin are elected there go all your rights. She is so the oposite of everything that Hillary believes in.

I’m one of those still “undecided” independent voters but I must say that as this race continues, I don’t know how I can support McCain/Palin. To me, it seems that all they are doing is ducking/dodging the real “issues” at every turn and instead, relying on “childish” antics and the astonishing ignorance of a lot of the american people to try to “steal” this election–by hook or crook! Yesterday, all of the major news networks were running this pig/lipstick story in primetime! Have we gone nuts? When young americans are dying in Iraq, we’re bailing out Fannie/Freddie, the budget deficit is projected to be over 400 billion, Lehman Brothers is on the verge of collapse, we’re sending a billion dollars to Georgia, scores of americans are losing their homes (or home values), energy is still high, food prices are crazy, jobs are going overseas, healthcare is ridiculous, illegal immigration is out of control, etc. etc. etc. — and the major news organizations are talking about pigs/lipstick. I’m convinced that we’re all nuts and that this election will not be decided by the voters/issues, but rather by talk radio, cable news programs, Internet blogs, email, talking heads, pundits, commentators, etc.
I tremble when I think of our country’s future!

If nothing else, these comments were simply stupid. What kind of judgment does Obama have? This isn’t the first time he has degraded other people and then had to eat his own words.

I guess we need McCain and the Republicans to provide us now with the PC list of what barnyard or other animals are PC in their hypocritical world. This whole silly debate plays into their dirty politics and the fact that they can’t win on the issues. However, I must say that in order to avoid the trap, Obama should just stay on message and keep his animal metaphors to one:
You can put lipstick on an ELEPHANT, but it’s the same OLD ELEPHANT of the GOP and that elephant’s name is George W. Bush.
It’s that easy and on message!

Geez, since when did the Presidential Campaign turn into High School? No wonder people in other countries think we have fallen as a people. With everything that is going on in our country right now..this is what both sides are b*tching about? Who said what about a pig, dog, duck? How the F is this going to help me in my life? Great, my nation is at it’s wits end and yet all ADULTS want to do is name call, then argue about what the phrase was intended for. Glad to know that social security, the US economy, healthcare (or the lack thereof), education dont really matter to the citizens of the US, all that matters is who did coke some 20 yrs ago or who said pig first. Our priorites are so screwed up and it shows on this board and many others. Wake me when we all start discussing the issues that REALLY MATTER!

Never fear, Obama will bring out the race card. This is Obama’s ace in the hole. Obama’s time has come and gone, Palin is true reform/change, no more empty suit Obama. His fund raising is in the dumps.
Now is the time for the kool-aid drinkers to go cold turkey and join Palin Power, this is the future of our great country. We have always been proud of our country !!!!!!!!!!
McCain – Palin in ’08 & ’12

The McCain camp and all of the rabid anti-Obama folks on this site will have to answer some day, judgment day, for their hatefilled attempts to distract people from the real issues. They are hurting Americans with this crap, and Christians and good citizens will not stand for it.

While this is an old saying, there are many old sayings which are no longer appropriate to use–this is one of them–particularly when there is a woman running. Obama needs to apologize quickly–if he doesn’t every woman and man in this nation needs to feel offended regardless of which party she/he supports support.

Wow, someone on this page actually thought that pitbull/hockey mom joke was ad lib. That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all week.
…I mean, aside from another double standard by the McCain camp. It’s ok for him to make the reference when a Democratic female is running for the presidency, but it’s not OK for Obama to make the same reference when a Republican female is going for VP?
“Not when she made a reference to that subject the week before,” you say?
Then explain to me how McCain choosing a female running mate a week after an instant response to Obama’s choice of VP, in which they blasted Obama for not choosing a woman, was anything less than pandering.
“But she’s a maverick,” you say?
Right. Anyone who solidifies the traditional base of the Republican party behind McCain is a maverick.
I never bought into the fact that McCain would be a Bush third tirm. But Palin is every bit the neocon.

Surely a man smart enough to be elected president should have foreseen how these remarks would be taken. Don’t Harvard law grads know the impact of words?
I can’t believe Obama said that.

Last night they reported on ABC News that the United States is ranked 19th in graduating students from High School, people please focus on the issues, America is falling fast…..
Obama 08

Maybe we’re getting too thin skinned. “Lipstick on a pig” is as old as lipstick but repeating it seems to have hurt Obama.
Maybe he should have chosen his words more carefully. I have noticed that Obama doesn’t do well when the pressure is on. If getting a few points behind in the polls makes him say things that can be misinterpreted, how is he going to handle the pressure of the presidency?
I hope Palin shrugs off the comment and puts herself above it all.

If Hillary had famously made the same comment Palin did in her speech, then you’d have a point. Hillary didn’t. Palin did. 0bama might as well have come out today and screamed “YEEEEEAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!”.
Concerned in Oh Please do the country a favor and reframe from voting. Your vote will be one of the most ill informed votes in history. In an intelligent way please explain what exactly you think Obama was saying about Palin? I would ask Palin to respond but she is the first VP in history that does not take questions.
She runs from the cameras faster then that Jamaican guy Hussein Bolt.
I call her the running woman running from those cameras as fast as she can… It’s the running woman breaking speeds never imagined in dodging those Reporters. I do not know about change we can believe in but it sure is speed we can believe in.

Ted,
I’ve witnessed a first. You are the first person that has ever posted a comment that made absolute perfect sense. You’re exactly right, & the fact that you feel that way despite your loyaties is a lesson we could all learn from. Great post.

Take note, much more O fans here are using insulting/dirty words than MaCain/Palin fans! They are actually calling Sarah “pig”. The Obama camp is sinking way too low. This is a big issue!

The Republicans are so good at camouflaging the issues and dividing the country along racial, gender, east, west , north, south, white , Black, rich, Poor even urban and suburban. It is so amazing.
The media uses these same tactics to stimulate stories and ratings thereto. The Democrats loose because they always want to play the honest party. They tell the truth. They seek reconciliation not division and they think that is what the american people want but little that they know ,not even the so called christians want that not to mention the closet racists.
They will lie cheat and steal to be in power. That is why the Republicans loathe the Clintons, because the Clintons were willing to play as dirty as they are to win.

Wow – the kooks are out in full force on this one… ISSUES, I demand that we talk about issues not fake Republican outrage at nothing.

Obama is a leader, he calls it how he sees in the language that people understand. And we all know that Palins choice for VP was a “pig in a poke” (look it up in the dictionary) which the American public will pay dearly for if McCain wins.
McCain has no honor when heb talks about energy conservation etc.. and then votes against job creating energy bills 14 times.

“Do you remember Obamas gaffe? Saying that he has been to all 57 states? Is it a gaffe or a Freudian slip? ”
No. It’s a gaffe. There were 57 races in the Democratic primary.

Just now, @ a library somewhere in Virginia, Sen. Barack Obama just, once again, felt the need to “scold” not only John McCain, for attempting to claim that the “lipstick on a pig” remark referred to Gov. Sarah Palin, but the news media as well. I just thought of another expression, “Dont bite the hand that feeds you”. Once again, Barack blames EVERYONE EXCEPT HIMSELF for his actions. It is clear that Barack intentionally made the “lipstick” comment with two understandings; 1.] that he was referring to Gov. Sarah Palin’s lipstick line in her acceptance speech 2.] that he would be attacked by the McCain campaign. Why, you may ask? Simple, so that he COULD go on the news today and have the opportunity to “scold” McCain & the news media, thereby making himself look as if HE is the only rational, fair, intelligent guy in America. This may appear an extreme theory, but ask yourself this, why could an otherwise intelligent rational man be stupid and thoughtless enough to make the “lipstick” comment in the first place? Barack’s is not the “politics of change” it is the politics of deception and manipulation.

His character is way too low, just like his insulting comments against women. O fans, this is a big issue the voters will consider and vote for McCain/Palin!

This woman is a money pig, with or without lipstick. Palin calls herself a “fiscal conservative,” but during her 6
years as mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. She also increased the amount of taxes collected by the city by 38%. And she increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food.
Despite the huge increases in tax revenues, she still borrowed
money. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million (this is a city of 6,000, mind you). $15 M+ went for construction of a sports complex which was still tied up in litigation 7 yrs later.

Well, Philly Paul, if the charge you make about Obama is true, then what should Americans expect from McCain? Something more substantial? We’ve already seen differently – and we remember that Republicans dumped McCain eight years ago to give us “I’m a uniter, not a divider” Bush. And we all know what happened the past eight years.

Well St. Louis Man if Obama has to apologize to slick Sarah, then McCain has to apologize to Hillary for doing the same thing.

I am sure Obama wasn’t referring to Palin or McCain. Obama has tried to refrain from going negative. Palin has been attacking Obama every since she came on the scene, along with McCain. Maybe she should apologize for telling lies and half truths on Obama. This is an old expression used by many. It means you can’t cover it up with lipstick it is still what it is.
America is going to Hell in a handbasket and we are talking about these little silly things.

And in addition to this fake outrage over an expression that I would guess Republicans probably use more than Democrats, McCain just falsely accused Obama of wanting to teach “comprehensive sex education” to kindergarteners.
Where is the outrage over that one?

The only PIG in this equation is OBAMA!

Anyone who gets in a lather over this is going to get a huge shock come election time. I’m starting to hope that McCain wins because then the people who voted for him are going to truly feel the sting of the Republican leadership. Think about it, Bush has been in office for eight years and look at the mess we’re in. You’re going to stick someone else in there to continue the status quo?? Well good luck, we’re not all going to suffer. For those who are having it rough but decide to go for McCain/Palin, I wish you all the best during the next four years. I’m not surprised because Bush did get a second term.