Ad Wars Heat Up Over Campaign Advisers

“The McCain campaign sparked a furious exchange of campaign attacks with the release of an ad linking Democratic presidential candidate Obama to a former Fannie Mae chief who was forced out by an accounting scandal.”
And McCain says Obama is trying to gain political advantage from the financial crisis? Lol, does this guy ever tell the truth?

In the four years since he stepped down as Fannie Mae’s chief executive under the shadow of a $6.3 billion accounting scandal, Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case’s DC conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters.”
Washington Post July 16, 2008

Obama: “I’ll just set this one out until I know the results. That way, I can freely criticize those who actually acted.”

beck
Don’t read much, do you?

AGAIN and again, we see that John McCain refuses to run on his record… for example supporting the Republican FILIBUSTER of the LILLY LEDBETTER FAIR PAY ACT!
AGAIN and again, we see John McCain ‘approve this message’ when the message is lie.
John McCain’s biggest problem is not that he chose a running mate without any consideration whatsoever regarding the welfare of the nation.
Nope. John McCain’s biggest problem is that the media (McCain: “My base”) have started calling him a liar.
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=71BBF99A-18FE-70B2-A864E9E1EC671646

Jayhawk – I’ll take Warren Buffett over McCain’s cast of looney characters.
But then I’m probably just having a mental recession, lol.

dl – Obama is doing what he can to promote confidence the Treasury Department can pull off this latest crisis management.
To me, its an example of Obama actually putting country first, where McCain just likes to talk about it.

First the S&L, Keating scandal of deregulation, then the housing crisis policy by Phil Gram. The debt at 10 trillion, and 10 billion a month in Iraq. JOHN MACAIN IS AN ECONOMICAL TERRORIST. Country first my a$$.

Mccain, Keating, deregulation lobby
= a trillion dokllar bail out in the 80′s
McCain Gramm deregulation lobby
= a trillion dollar bail out again now.
only difference Keating goes to jail
Gramm writes Mccain’s economic policy
how many times does a politician have to be associated with the people at the center of an effort that cost us a trillion dollars before we say
“mmmm this guy should not be handed the keys to the kingdom and our economic future”
Only didfference between McCain and the S and L scandal and McCain and now…
Keating went to jail and Gramm wrote his economic policy (Gramm the guy who got paid 750 000 dollars just this past year from the banking lobby to fight for the same ongoing deregulation that destroyed us.)
Mccain didn’t just put the wolf outside the hen house
He now has the wolf writing the economic policy for the hen house after he ate half the hens.
same team
same tactics
same results
throw these bums out.

McCain Keating deregulation
a trillion dollar bail out
McCain Gramm deregulation
a trillion dollar bail out
how many times until we say enough
same team same tactics
same results
throw this bum and his cronies out.

The only thing the Obama campaign seems to be good at these days is trying to use out of context snippets to make a misleading point or two…
Desperation…
Anybody But Obama…

Obama is a good person who is related to me by marriage. He and his lovely wife want to make history at your expense, Americans and Jews. He really doesn’t mean any harm, it’s just that this election is about HIM, not you out there in America. Pastor Wright and I are good friends and we agree that whatever Obama’s religion is (we haven’t figured that one out yet?????), he means well as a Jew, muslim and as a Christian. It’s not Obama’s fault that he picked Biden. His advisers told him to do it. Biden is the one who said you are not patriotic unless you pay more taxes. Don’t be offended, veterans and soldiers in Iraq, it’s not that you’re TOTALLY unpatriotic—you just haven’t paid enough taxes yet.

Just got an email that Old Joe Biden will be stepping down on October 2 due to health problems…

http://leftwingcracker.blogspot.com/2008/09/great-response-from-obamas-campaign.html
link to Mike Kernell on this Obama blogger website. looks like Kernell scrubbed his site.

“polticians of both parties who looked the other way until it was too late.” – Obama Miami 9/19/2008 Exactly, Obama got that right! Obama turned the otherway and collected $126,349 from Freddie Mac. Dodd did the same and collected $165,400.

obama’srabbi.
What offends me is the fact that no one from the Republican side has offered a way to fix the VA. You want us to do the dirty work of war, but no care when we get back. I have had 7 (seven) tours now. killed alot of people for you, and now no treatment for me. Now where do I sign up for these higher taxes.

Obama: “I’ll just sit this one out until the results are know. Then, I can criticize and claim I knew it all the while.
Obama — truly the shallow one!
Hey dl
You put quotations around that phrase. Who were you quoting? Sound like a McCain ad. I fell for it eight years ago but not again. Thanks for the reminder.

again
McCain has cost us…
a trillion with his buddy deregulation Keating
a trillion with his Iraqwar buddy Bush
a trillion with his new deregulation buddy Gramm.
How many trillions do we have.
throw these bums out.

And McCain’s inside circle/close advisors are (out of 8) lobbyist for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Where does he get the nerve?

Great Posts. Obama and Dodd find themselves in a very smelly and sticky situation. They took more money from Fannie Mae than anyone else, and now Obana has used TWO former Fannie Mae CEOs on his campaign. Raines has been accused of “cooking the books” in order to get a higher bonus. When he was caught, he according to Wikkkipedia he agreed to “Pay” $3 million ( Fannie Mae’s liability insurance policy was apparently used to pay Raines’ fine) OUTRAGEOUS!
READ MORE AT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Raines
NO WAY OBAMA! COUNTRY FIRST!

Hey GeraldD
Here on ABC Blogs we’re educated, take those lies over to Fox news or something. Raines has never worked for the Obama campaign.
If you read as well as you write seek further education!

Paige:
Try to use Wiki as a source in even a middle school paper and you will be laughed at.
Not saying I don’t disagree – but don’t quote wiki – it makes you look stupid.

Obama should put out an ad that says, McCain belongs to the KKK and is angry that Hitler failed to finsih the job of murdering all the Jews. It isn’t true of course, but then again neither is anythin McCain is saying about Obama. Fight lies with lies.

To add to Obama’s pain…
“Bill Clinton heaps praise on Sarah Palin, John McCain. Barack Obama? Not so much.” – Toby Harnden. 9/19/2008 interview with CNBC’s Maria Bartiromo.

Obama raised $66 million last month. $2.1 million a day. In this horrid economy. OBAMA IS A ECONOMIC POWERHOUSE. John McCain married $100 million dollar.
Cindy McCain Johns’ first lobbist.
Country club first!

People, McShame is not going to win this. The country is tired of do nothing, spend our money, give it all to the rich mentality that we have had to put up with for the last 8 years. To coin a phrase form Reagan, are you better off now then you were 8 years ago? Whoops, there goes the economy. Get ready to start selling apples on the street corners.

I have just emailed her to start an investigation on the republican party for stealing all of our money!

m@cchiavell
Had everyone held back like the shallow one, the mess would have grown to catastrophic proportions. Sometimes, action is needed and sometimes, 300 advisers can’t be convened to help!
Obama – still undergoing OJT!

4 more years, 4 more years – we need to save the rich from losing everything. Please send donations to the republican committee for homeless millionaires.
Remember rich people first – country second!

Those aren’t lies, they are inspirations.

Too bad the republicans weren’t saying that a month ago. Talk about do nothing. Just send your income tax check in early, it is never too early to help the rich.

Country first?
Arrest Phil Gram then. Stop being cuckold to the same lobbist. Put middle class first! Equal pay for equal work! address education please! The fundamentals of the economy are the workers? Does this mean we have to re-teach economics in school to keep in step with MCcrazy? Why again are we in Iraq? WMD? You Republicans will lie about any and everything. War crime charges should be brought against Bush and McCry baby.

How about McCain’s past of the Keating Five:
The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).

$10 trillion debt, I hope they don’t forclose on the home of the brave! Thanks Republicans. Take responsibility of your failures. Just like McCain telling home owners to take responsibility for there morgages.
Middle class first
Obama/Joe. B “08″

Carly Fiorina, disgraced former-HP CEO who practically drove a great company into the ground and was awarded a golden parachute on the way out is McCain’s top economic advisor…that says it all to me…

Posted by: dl | Sep 19, 2008 2:30:32 PM
dl (real or fake?)
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I do agree with you. I don’t think that Obama has contributed anything one way or the other to this debate. He has, as you say, “held back”. I would say “he as reserved judgment”.
McCain, on the other hand, has
1. Shown he has no real comprehension of the problem (“the fundamentals of our economy are strong!”)
2. Has adopted mutually contradictory positions over the course of six days (I’m against regulation, I’m for regulation, I’m against bailouts, I’m for bailouts, fire the SEC Chairman – even though I do not have the authority to fire the SEC chairman.
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So, here’s the picture I’ve formed to the two respective candidates
Obama: is cautious, thoughtful, recognizes the limits of his power, and the danger of making reckless recommendations before all the evidence is in.
McCain: is reckless; does not know his own mind; makes bold recommendations one day, which he completely reverse the next; is no more sure of a way forward than anyone else, but pretends that he knows what he is talking about.
He does not know what he is talking about.
Not even Paulson or Bernacke know what they are talking about at the moment. This financial crisis has knocked everyone on their a$$e$, both Democrats and Republicans alike.
Yet, Sen. John McCain is the only one out in public spouting off advice, taking contradictory positions, all the while POSING as the strong, wise know-it-all leader. Well, if he does know it all:
1. How come he wasted the country’s time last week talking on and on about a pig with lipstick? Shouldn’t he have warned us about the meltdown that was coming?
2. What specifically, does he intend to do? Not – “I can lead, because I’m a leader who knows how to lead”. That’s emtpy bluster. What are his specific recommendations? He refuses to give any.
So, as much as Obama, he is also “waiting for this crisis to play itself out”. I mean, his first thought was to create a frickin’ 9/11 commission, for Pete’s sake:-)
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Most significantly, if one single factor can be said to have contributed to the current meltdown, it would appear to be the LACK of government oversight and APPROPRIATE government regulation.
I’m no financial expert, but even I know that if you want to borrow money, you should have sufficient capital (collateral) to cover the loan in case you aren’t able to make payments.
McCain, his economic advisor Phil Gramm, and the Reagan Republicans of days-gone-by have consistently, vigorously, and vocally taken the OPPOSITE position. Their economic philosophy in a nutshell?
Lower taxes, and less government regulation is ALWAYS the solution to ANY financial crisis.
In short: Let markets regulate themselves. The worst thing for the free market is government interference.
This IS John McCain’s economic philosophy, if he can be said to have any philosophy at all.
It is this philosophy, among many other factors, that has dragged the American economy into its current financial crisis.
McCain should have the decency and integrity to admit that he was wrong about deregulation, at least as regards private investment banks like Lehman brothers. A central contributing factor to the current meltdown has been the LACK of government oversight and regulation.
Yet, now we – the American taxpayer – are being stuck with the bill. This is outrageous!
If McCain were to admit he had been wrong about regulation in the past, I might take him more seriously now when he does a complete 180, and suddenly starts calling for more government oversight and regulation.
Finally, it is John McCain who clearly, emphatically has said it was not the government’s job to step in and help home-owners out of the current sub-prime mortgage crisis. He is NOT interested in helping ordinary Americans out of their financial difficulties, but he IS interested in helping billion dollar financial institutions out of their troubles?
That would make sense of his flip-flopping on government interference, wouldn’t it?
In the past, McCain has clearly stated that the fedearl government should NOT meddle in private, for-profit business or financial deals.
So, what changed?
Why has McCain changed his position? Now its suddenly O.K. for taxpayers to be on the hook for 80 billion dollars of private corporate debt?
Maybe that’s because the sub-prime mortgage lending doesn’t affect John McCain, but the meltdown of Lehmann brothers and AIG threatens John McCain’s personal investments.
Hmmmmm….
You wouldn’t help us when banks threatened us with foreclosure, but now we, the American public, the American taxpayer who saw none of the profits made by Lehman Bros. & AIG, are now stuck paying off their debts?
Explain that one John McCain

Hey xtra xtra read all about it,
You get American news from a UK news organization? How un-patriotic.

“Um, well, looking at their respective picks for running mate, maybe McCain should have asked the Fannie guy for some advice, too, lol.”
McCains campain manager is Rick Davis!
“More significantly, the McCain-Palin campaign manager, Rick Davis, “served as president of an advocacy group led by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac” that worked to cripple regulatory initiatives in Congress and protect the two institution’s “healthy profits.” As the Politico reported in July:”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/18/palin-blames-lobbyists-li_n_127399.html

Dl:
A little about my own political philosophy, so we don’t have to waste time hurling insults at each other:-)
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I think of myself as a “pragmatist” on political questions.
What does this mean?
It means I’m not first and foremost interested in a candidate’s political ideology, but I am very interested in their specific proposals.
I ultimately judge a candidate based on their flexibility, willingness to compromise, and pragmatic leadership on complex political problems.
Now, the most ideologically driven party of the last 15 years has been the REPUBLICAN PARTY under Newt Gingrich, and then Bush/Cheney.
McCain falls squarely within this camp.
These ideologically driven so-called “Republicans” and self-styled conservatives are unmoved by events in the real world that might contradict their world-view.
They could care less whether their programs are working or not. Evidence to the contrary is not taken into consideration.
I think their “ideology” has been a disaster for this country.
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Note:
*I voted for John McCain in the 2000 primaries
*I voted for John McCain in the 2008 primaries
*I supported the invasion of Iraq IN PRINCIPLE, though I am horrified by how incompetently Bush and his cronies carried out the occupation.
(I say I supported the invasion “in principle”; however, I did not and still do not think the invasion was necessary at the specific moment in time. We could have put off an invasion until we were dead sure that Hussein did indeed have weapons of mass destruction.)
*I am in favor of lower taxes and cutting spending.
*I think the solution to our current deficit is to allow the Bush tax-cuts on the wealthiest 1% of this country to lapse, AND to cut government spending.
*I think the solution to the current melt-down in the financial markets is INCREASED government oversight and better government regulations.
*I think that the wealthy (anyone making more than $250,000/per year) in this country SHOULD pay higher taxes.
The wealth, as so defined, benefit disproportionately from government services (like secure property & financial markets, a strong military, a sound infrastructure, open markets, a stable global economy), so they SHOULD be REQUIRED to pay more.
This has nothing to do with income re-distribution. As far as I am concerned equity is easily determined:
the more someone benefit’s from a given system, the more they should have to pay TO MAINTAIN that system.
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On questions of public education and health care, I also take a pragmatic view.
*I think a well-educated population benefits everyone, but it benefits the wealthy the most.
Entrepreneurs such as Google or Microsoft are better able to hire employees who will help them to remain competitive in the global economy.
*As to health care, the fact that private companies have to pay for their employee health care costs, and that people have to work for a large corporation in order to get health-care at all, acts AS A BRAKE on innovation.
Why?
1. Since corporations are forced to cover all their employees current and future health care costs, American corporations (such as GM, Ford) are at a competitive disadvantage compared to their foreign rivals WHO DO NOT have to pay for their employees health care costs (Toyota, Honda).
2. Because people MUST work for a large corporation in order to get health care for themselves and their families, they are locked into working within long-established economic institutions.
Unlike citizens of other developed industrial economies, Americans are not free to strike out on their own. They MUST seek out employment in a large, well-established corporations, or they get no health-care!
This is a major brake on economic innovation.
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On all of these questions, and others, McCain remains a Republican Ideologue, unable to provide new ideas.
Obama, strikes me as a pragamatist, able to weigh different options, and choose those most likely to lead to a real solution.
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I once thought McCain was the last pragmatist in American politics. The way he has run his campaign since the beginning of this summer, and specifically his choice of an incompetent running-mate, has convinced me otherwise.
If McCain of 2000 were running, rather than the right-wing, ideologically-driven mutant McCain of 2008, I would seriously consider voting for him.

How long do you think McShame will keep throwing sh*t on the wall hoping something will stick? He has been doing this so long that I have no idea what he stands for, and neither do the republicans.
4 more years, 4 more years – take from the poor, and give to the rich!

“campaign of hatred and bigotry”
I see your an expert in this Jayhawk!

Just goes to prove, you can take the boy out of the Ghetto but you can’t take the Ghetto out of the boy. Barry is a Fraud and always has been a FRAUD!!! America is finally waking up to this fact. Thank God!!!!!

OBAMA = BETRAYAL
Obama supporters are foolish to think that he will never betray them.
Obama was a close friend of Pastor Wright for TWENTY YEARS.
Obama threw Wright under the bus for personal ambition.
McCain would not betray his country even after 5 years of torture.
You can put lipstick on a traitor, but he’s still a traitor.

can’t wait until the debates, beause
caught off guard and without a telepromper, Bucky stutters like Porky Pig on cocaine. And Michelle comes across as an angry militant racist gorilla.
don’t let these freaks anywhere near the white house

When are the media going to give equal analysis to Obama’s lies? He is still getting a free ride. What do voters really know about him? This is MSM’s election. They should all stop calling themselves journalists after violating every ethic that comes to mind. So many have crossed the line from objectivity to opinion, it’s frightening.

Did McCain or Palin receive any contributions from Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, their executives, board members, or anyone working for their lobbyists?

dl: Beck doesn’t read at all. Doesn’t have the any idea what is going on in politics. Takes after Obama. Know nothing, do nothing and says nothing. Obama was an attorney for a crook, learned how to wheel and deal and it wouldn’t surprise me about his dealing with Raines. Obama’s house was paid for by Rezko for covering up Rezko’s crooked deals. Rezko is paying the price although Obama was involved but he never received a summons to testify.

Buck E. You are so right. Obama does stutter and hesitates when in a debate he is asked questions. It takes him time to answer because he doesn’t really know the answers. McCain and Palin beat him out in their acceptance speeches and also with the viewer’s. I understand Palin has thousands of people at her campaign in Lake Lake Florida. People waited for over 5 hours to hear her. And CNN,MSNBC, ABC and FOX are all pro-Obama fans and inflate the polls to make it look like Obama is winning. Not so. McCain is ahead in Florida, Ohio and Michigan. And I believe he will win WVA, SD and ND. This is going to be a very close race because in some states they are running neck to neck. I am willing to bet Obama thought he had it in the bag. He did until Palin came along and ruined it for him.