An Unfair Attack on McCain on Immigration Reform

Any wonder the NYT’s subscription rate has plummeted and they’ve had to lay off huge numbers of their staff.

mccain is a liar and his campaign is a joke. He picked a vp for political superficial gains and put the american people at risk
so much for country first
mccain would rather lose his integrity than lose an election.
if hes willing to sell us short during the campaign imagine how he will sell us if he is elected

Perhaps. The question is was it a good Bill? Was it a good bill without the amendments? Was it a better Bill with the amendments? Would it have passed without the amendments? Which amendments caused the bill to fail?
This crap about amendments is just that crap. The Republicans wanted a Wall first. If they had passed a Bill it would have taken some of their political capital, “Blame the Immigrant” out of play

Sen McCain stood up and spoke loudly for comprehensive reform. He was a powerful voice that resonates with the Latino community. He was bloodied by his own party and joined Democratic Sen Kennedy to create real change for our country.
Obama and other democrats stood in their way.
You tell me, who’s really for CHANGE ?

“Jonathan Martin’s Politico report Monday that Bill Clinton has invited John McCain to give opening remarks live at his Clinton Global Initiative annual meeting later this month. Barack Obama is also invited but, on the other hand, is relegated to speaking to a plenay session via satellite”
Why even lie about this?
McCain will appear live at a plenay session — “Integrated Solutions: water, food and energy” — and offer introductory remarks there. Obama is to address the session via satellite.
McCain is not giving the opening remarks to the initiative but rather to a plenay session that Obama will also address.
Christ, the dishonesty is pathological with the right wing.

did any of you read what amendments obama was pushing for ? they sounded more than reasonable to me as i am all for less illegal immigration and any legal ways/means to accomplish that end is ok with me.
the problem is that the rich democrats what their yards mowed for free too!!
get these illegal aliens out of this country ,keep them out and quit passing and continuing pro illegal immigrant/ anti american worker laws ,like the unbelievably moronic guest worker program, which gives cheapskate businesses that cannot compete fairly in the labor market a free ride to big profits , care of uncle sams slave labor racket.)
can you believe that?

It is nice to see a substantive discussion of an issue here, but not when it starts with a distorted headline. It makes it sound like McCain was falsely attacked on immigration reform. Instead we learn
the DNC citing the New York Times claimed a McCain ad is falsely attacking Obama. Compare that headline to the headline on the blog about the false ad McCain ran about kindergarten sex education.

the repubs can completely mince up words and then cry when it happens to them… i see keep hitting them…
this mccain has got to go he is too scary to be president, he has shown over the course of this campaign he doesnt have the integrity or the temperament to do this job…..
he has sold himself to try to win this campaign at all costs……
what will he do when he gets into the presidency… i know i dont want to find out
and to have palin right there, i really dont want to find out what she would do
bush has destroyed the economy and palin mccain have the same policies as him…
this is war time we should have a growing economy but even bush screwed that up
and mccain thinks the economy is strong
how pathetic
go buy another house

dl
the only one blowing hot air and lies is the mccain palin ticket… they continue to lie everyday… day after day after day…
they think the economy is strong
these people are out of touch

ricky , thats just jakes personal opinion showing through.
also of note, look who was mostly against the bill ,not so much the bill itself but the added amendments that made it undesirable to them and their cheap/free labor expecting constituents ,ie; republicans/scumbags who are attempting to supply ultra low wage illegal alien labor to their fat cat lobbying republican friends.
so simple but its killing america.
the rich and elite lobby their republican yes men to draft and pass laws to allow legal importing of (illegal)labor for the jobs that rich business cant export…
totally sickening and i will NEVER vote for ANY party or person who supports such a total sell out of the american worker (and you shouldnt either…)
and as much as i liked bill clinton overall , he helped this problem along greatly during his tenure ,selling this country out with nafta and the overseas job export he tacitly and patently oversaw.
we need a strong nationalistic president and NOW!!!!!!!!!

the republican argument for illegal guest workers is that (and someone please correct me if i am wrong) without illegal workers to do “the jobs americans wont do” ,prices for things they do will go sky high.
say someone has an apple farm , but they need lots of cheap labor to make a profit.
they hire illegal alien guest workers, pay them a pittance and indeed make said profits .
now the argument goes ,american workers would have to be paid too much to do the jobs the illegals do for much less , resulting in higher prices for the consumer.
thats fine, i agree. the problem is that this gueat worker program is basically a form of labor subsidy. if a business cannot operate with a profit without subsidies …IT SHOULD NOT EXIST.PERIOD.
try to sell someone a $10 apple sometime , i got news for you . when apples get to be that expensive…PEOPLE WILL JUST QUIT EATING APPLES. leave the free labor market alone uncle sammy and let the chips fall where they may.
the us government needs to get out of the scab/slave labor racket ,and i applaud obama for the evidently well thought out amendments he put in that stupid bill. he knows what is needed …quit propping up loser businesses with floods of illegal laborers!
yes obama will get my vote.

and cherie, i dont care WHAT nationality an illegal immigrant is , only LEGAL AMERICAN CITZENS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY AND ANYONE ELSE SHOULD BE MADE TO GO HOME OR BE PUT IN A LABOR CAMP.
thats what the founding fathers intended and the guest worker program WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IF THERE WERE REAL PATRIOTS IN OUR POLITICAL INSTITUTIONS.
obama looks to me to be the closest thing to a true patriot i have seen since jfk. sad to say ,but its true.
cherie , if you want more immigrants thats fine by me ,this country is all immigrants since before we ran the indian nations into reservations…BUT IT HAS TO BE 100% LEGAL!! ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST A POLITICAL WINK AND A NOD FOR RICH BUSINESSES TO GET CHEAP ILLEGAL LABOR ON THE SLY.

More of Barack Obama’s radical friends:
ACORN
They have been tied to voter fraud in several states.
Why does BO enjoy spending time with so many radicals?

Mccain has been lying in a spanish ad about a bill that both he and Obama supported. So who cares what happens to him now. He’s just lying because they can’t stop that train now.

The thought of Palin running this country scares the HELL out of me, let’s face it McCain already has one foot in the grave(god foregive me but it’s true)

The most important factor in all this debate is the sad fact that Hillary Clinton was forced out of the nomination process. Regardless of the economic situation at present, John McCain looks more credible and prepared than Barack Obama. If Hillary had been the democratic party’s nominee, the whole equation would have been different. In that scenario (and the worst missed opportunity for democrats), Hillary would have been the best choice for the country. Right now, thanks to the incompetent and conniving democratic party leadership, McCain is the best choice we have for president of the USA. I’d rather have a Republican war hero who fought for my country as president than a democrat whose numerous questionable associations cast serious doubts on his character and judgement. I hope Hillary runs in 2012.

you are a republican and thats that ,so i understand your compunction to vote that way , but dont try to equate a loser like mccain, who is all about the same old same old status quo, to someone like obama who i am quite sure will at least TRY to make some needed changes.
you ,and those like you are just trying to falsely ally with hillary and democratic ideals just to get another republican in the oval office.
NO MCCAIN ….HES A LOSER LIKE REAGAN AND HE WILL JUST SEND MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS INTO THE COUNTRY WHILE HE LIES ABOUT DOING IT.

Jake if you read the above the NYT is accusing the Republicans of listening to their constituents and that is a problem to the libs, why?
“but they could only round up 12, in the wake of all of those right-wing attacks.”
also polls taken 80% of Americans were against any bill giving amnesty!!
But the libs do not care they want another group to enslave!

ahh john the all knowing and wise,the bearer of the real truth.
lol!

I was planning to vote for McCain but if he is going to continue catering to illegal aliens I’ll have to rethink my position.

What a surprise! Another ABC negative news story about Republican John McCain. Let’s take a poll of the ABC “news” team and see what compelling numbers we find. My guess is that 99.9% of the newsroom is supporting the very wordy, but undistinguished, unqualified Barak Obama.

Do ´real American´exist? it makes me laugh. this country is made up of immigrant´s descendants. Investigate your roots and you´ll realize we all come from english, scottish, irish, canadian, french, german, italian, dutch, polish, swedish, russian, mexican, etc.
Don´t believe you´re ´pure´ american whose ancestors just came with the Mayflower. It sounds ridiculous!

Supply and demand, eliminate the demand, and the supply will dry up… or go home

the republicans would say “oh its too hard to round up all the illegal immigrants ” or ” it will cost too much money and police time” …all while the generally ineffectual police are busting kids for skateboarding in the park or smoking a joint ,while the police get paid way too much (in general)and do way too little ,ie; mostly driving around burning taxpayer gas and giving out multitudinous traffic tickets to raise local revenue.
yes ,your taxpayer dollars hard at work to enforce what laws? you should most definitely ask yourselves that question when you vote.
we need to get PRIORITIES straight here.
kids smoking pot and things like that need to get put on the back burner until we get the IMPORTANT URGENT things taken care of like ummm , national security ,the economy ,immigration education. infrastructure.
this country needs less local/rural cops (most get paid way too much and do hardly anything) ,a lot more big city cops and much more federal law enforcement ,and we need law enforcement that actually will enforce the MOST IMPORTANT COGENT LAWS FIRST whether those laws are hard to enforce or not, instead of focusing on the laws that are easy to enforce, like giving out parking tickets and things like that…

I am glad that Obama is against immigration illegal and otherwise. The hispanics are taking jobs from the blacks and you better believe Obama will stand up for us. He is a politician and has to say what he does but in the end he will favor us over them for jobs. Immagrants in this country illegally will be sent home. He will also change the laws bout being born here to immigrant parents or marrying a citizen to try to get citenship.

Obama and his DNC buddys will LIE LIE LIE in trying to win. Shame on you Obama and the DNC.

Obama is desperate. Too bad his lack of honor, morals or a conscience is showing.

yes!! now with the 85 bil bailout of american insurance in a roundabout way the republicans have made the government into a health provider of sorts… now the government is in the INSURANCE business!!!
oh nellie what a mess we are in…its time for real action here.
now what i really want to know is; where do I go when I need a multi billion $$ bailout??

Obama gave a speech here in Las Vegas at an “immigration” rally.
The position he stated is “We should not have raids that separates mothers and fathers from their children. We need to remember a statue in NY harbor: Give us your tired, your poor…”
The impression that he left with many of us in attendance was, if you got across and are here, you should not be sent back.

America must not let this golden opportunity of change slip away
MaCain has been a hero and a staunched American. I like him I would want to see him honored like every other war veteran. Being a war veteran those not guarantee being a good president. And I know, Americans will not be voting personalities nor party, they should be voting policies. Obama has the 21st century policy that will drive America economy and the World Economy.
Obama and Biden will bring back America rare shadow of political and economic dependency by most Nations in the World which is fast diminishing; they will make America safer than.
I don’t support Obama on some of his policies like Abortion etc. but his sincerity about everything puts him ahead of MaCain who gives different answers to different people and lies about almost everything. He has adopted Obama “change” slogan, he has adopted Palin rhetoric what else are Americans looking for? If colors is the basic of this election, MaCain is the right man, but if democracy and polices are the objectives of this election Obama is the right man
Less we forget. We need ask MaCain if Palin will run the white house. Because, it’s glaring he has lost confidence in his ability to get things done and even move people.

More Latin Americans are supporting Obama over McCain this year. The Republicans have been bashing the Latin community so long now through Rush and his neo conservative friends they are not trusted by the community. Also the latin community respects its artists. On places where you can post videos they are flying the latin singers and bands supporting Obama.