Another AIP Official Says Palin Was at 1994 Convention*
An intense "she said"/"she said" emerged Tuesday over whether Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was ever a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, the third-largest political party in the 49th state. The AIP wants Alaskans to get an opportunity to vote on whether or not they will remain a state, or become a commonwealth, or split off as an independent nation.
Officials of the AIP said Gov. Palin was once a member, but the McCain campaign — providing what it says is complete voter registration documentation — says Palin has been according to official records a lifelong Republican.
A day after making its assertions, on Tuesday evening, AIP chair Lynette Clark acknowledged she was mistaken and that Gov. Palin was never a member.
(Which to be honest seems more in keeping with the ambitious pol. Republicans have a much better track record than the AIP.)
Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, tells ABC News that "Gov. Sarah Palin first registered to vote in the state in May 1982 as a Republican, and she has not changed her party affiliate with the Division of Elections since that time."
But Fenumiai adds that Palin’s husband Todd was a member of the AIP from October 1995 through July 2002, except for a few months in 2000. He is currently undeclared.
As part of their pushback against the charges of Lynette and Dexter Clark of the AIP, the McCain campaign says that Palin did not even attend the AIP convention in Wasilla in 1994.
But another former AIP official — Mark Chryson, chairman of the AIP from 1995 to 2002 — tells ABC News that "Palin was at the convention in 1994. She was there."
Was she a member?
Chryson can’t say. "She may have been, I do not know," he says. Their records don’t go back that far.
"Ask Sarah," he suggests.
I’d love to. But she hasn’t exactly been making herself available to the press.
– jpt
* This post has been updated with the comments of Fenumiai, and again after Clark took back her assertion that Gov. Palin was a member of the AIP.
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1994, that was so long ago. Who cares? Hillary was a Republican some time ago, wasn’t she?
Posted by: Today | September 2, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
“This is like a cat covering up crap in its litter box,” she says.
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And much to their dismay… the proverbial crap is hitting the fan!
Posted by: Deep Release | September 2, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
AIP – Trinity. Who knows.
Posted by: d0 | September 2, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Who cares, who really gives a damn, just like I don’t give a damn that obama was on a board with Bill Ayers, or sat in a church for 20 years with Jeremiah Right. It does not have anything to do with the issues.
Posted by: Kim | September 2, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Country 1st still???? I forecast this candidate would have to withdraw soon. I can’t see FNC/RNC spinning this one… like what they are doing with the other of Palin’s daily “discoveries”!
Posted by: NK | September 2, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
There is only one fair question to ask Republicans. Since it’s a question they love to ask over and over. The question is simple: “Why does Sarah Palin hate America?”
Posted by: ElodieStClair | September 2, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
The end of this mistake is near
Posted by: jen | September 2, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Lol, this woman’s skeleton closet is FULL.
Posted by: Teri B. | September 2, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Desire to secede doesn’t sound too patriotic to me.
Posted by: Deep Release | September 2, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
whether she was AIP or not doesn’t matter.
The Point here is contiunous lie from Maccain Campaign…so many cover ups…
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Posted by: zen | September 2, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
The fact that she has a pregnant teen-aged daughter is NOT news, it is salacious gossip. But this IS news…
-the fact that she’s being investigated by the State of Alaska on charges of abuse of power, involving SEVERAL instances where according the special prosecutor in which she may have been complicit, which are substantially more serious that she had first led the McCain camp to believe IS news.(abuse of power/dishonesty)
- the fact that Gov. Palin has taken $27 million in earmarks IS news; (pandering/corruption)
-the fact that Gov. Palin was the DIRECTOR of indicted Sen. Ted Stevens’ 527 and raised millions for him, IS news; (corrupt)
-the fact that Gov. Palin ran up a $20 million debt when she was mayor of a small town IS news.(misuse of authority)
- The fact that Gov. Palin was a member of the Buchanan Brigade IS news. (Anti-Semitic conservative, Nazi sympathizer)
- the fact that Gov. Palin is a member of Alaskans for Independence Party IS news;(sedition/treason)
-the fact that Gov. Palin is a NeoPentacostal Dominionist which is a church that preaches purging the Earth of all non-Christians by a specially anointed army of God (starting with the Jews), IS news; (religious fanaticism)
-The fact that as a teen Gov. Palin played a leading role as a member of said army (Joel’s Army or the Army of the Third Wave-which most Christian theologians consider heretical in nature) IS news….
PS: All of these stories have been broken by other major media outlets over the week end… so if any of this IS news to you, my I suggest a Google search.
Posted by: beck | September 2, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn…………
Posted by: RL | September 2, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
What Convention?
Posted by: Thinking | September 2, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
First, I hope you apply that same water-under-the-bridge attitude when Fox News rambles on about Obama’s association with Williams Ayers. Furthermore, what makes this relevant is the fact that the AIP is a secessionist group (i.e. do not like being part of America). Finally, I do not think HRC was ever registered as a Republican.
Posted by: Rich | September 2, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Psa 26:4 I did not sit with liars, and I will not be found among hypocrites.
These so called evangelicals who are really political cronies hiding behind the cloth love the Republican Party more than they love God. They don’t have any family values. But we all know if that were Michelle Obama’s or Hillary Clinton’s pregnant teenage daughter Tony Perkins and others would be pointing a finger at them and saying what a poor example they are setting. They would be raking these mothers across the hotest of coals.
As a born again, bible-toting Christian, I’m offended by these hypocrites
Posted by: mary | September 2, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Deep Realease-wellthen i guess the idea of being friendly and working on the same team with a known homegrown terrorist who bombed the pentagon and the capitol does not sit well with me.
Posted by: Kim | September 2, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Alaska First or Country First, tough call for Barracuda Girl.
Posted by: cosmosis | September 2, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Kim.
this is our vetting process. whoever wants high office in this country should go through this process.
Obama went through last 19 months and he survived.
so, Now Palin’s turn.
we will see whether she survive or not.
Posted by: zen | September 2, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Rich,
first as Americans we need weeks and weeks of vetting…….remember?
Posted by: watching | September 2, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Let’s see AIP says she was there. McCain says she was not.
One group has been shown to lie repeatedly. And that would be the McCain campaign.
Also why isn’t Palin taking questions from reporters?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Tony, Hillary has never been of a party which asks for cessession, so Paulin has to answer to real questions. She has never denied who she was and who she is, a strong woman who cares for women’s issues, Senator of the big Apple. She is very different from Paulin, Miss Alaska runner-up, major of a small own and governor of the smallest state in the US. McSame has made a serious mistake, he has to admitted it and lose the elections. God save America from McPauline. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA/BIDEN08.
Posted by: BKMC | September 2, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
It’s so strange, so unfair to attack Palin.
Who is Obama’s pastor, what did his pastor say and do?
Isn’t it much damaging than Palin’s daughter pregnency, and other things?
Isn’t the patrotism the most important thing as President?
Posted by: golfgirlusa | September 2, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
If she can just hang on for two more days!
Posted by: Thinking | September 2, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Palin is fair game, not just because she is running for national office but because she is a self-described “hockey mom” who told the nation that her eldest son is headed to Iraq.
“Once she’s brought her children in as selling points, unfortunately the bad comes in with the good,” says Lisa Bloom, a Court TV anchor. “She’s integrating her mom quality as a key part of her résumé. We didn’t do that in the press; she did that.”
Posted by: let the vetting begin | September 2, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
just waitin for the photos…I have a feeling Sarah is going to be adding to her album over the next weeks… photos of this and photos of that…
too bad we can’t find any photos of her talking about terrorism and trade agreements…and russia…or her economic beleifs with regard to social security and her resoning…
or her knowledge of the constitution…and her reasoning and logic and awareness of separation of powers…
and why she doesn’t really believe the science behind global warming and what her science is in teaching creationism with evolution in the school science classes…
and what she knows of where it is stated that we have a sparation of church and state
and what the comprehension of that is
of and why Georgia seceded from Russia?
and what has happened over the last 2 years to lead up to the invasion
and who is in Nato and how she they be involved and how we are going to get them to do that
and how her workling with the oil companies for 20 months (as her husband was working FOR them) makes her an expert on energy in general?
where are the interviews…
are they waiting to make sure she atleast gets a b in their “30 second sound bites on how to save the world class” before she is allowed to answer any questions outside …the ones she asks …
like “what does the VP do during the day?”
or the gigles she lets out as an Alaska DJ crassly trashes another woman’s mothering abilities calling the woman a bit(h and crudely calling her fat…all the while Palin giggles and laugh and laughs and giggles…never getting out a “that’s not cool” even.
this woman as VP is the scariest thing I have seen in a long time.
Posted by: dl | September 2, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Why media dig Palin’s ‘bad’ news so quickly?
Why didn’t the media dig Obama’s bad news so quickly?
What if Obama’s pastor’s speech video was exposed the first day in Iowa?
Posted by: golfgirlusa | September 2, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
hilly billy,
the point here is not Bristol.
she is just a poor girl who we should not judge.
The point is Palin who is VP candidate.
With all her value for family and children, she showed that her desire for power is stronger than her care for 4 month down syndrome baby and vulnerable pregnant daughter.
Posted by: zen | September 2, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
As a republican I am so deeply offended by the choice of Mrs. Palin. I just dont understand why on earth McCain picked this beauty queen turning drama queen over night. I said it from the start that this women has baggage and will be an issue. She has no EXPERIENCE. I am deeply sorry if offend anyone but the reality is that this women could me the next president of the United States, this idea is scarry. I just can not see this women as our president. Folks this is real. I hope she drops out. I hate to say it but Obama made a better choice. Biden has the experience.
Posted by: Frank | September 2, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Most of the Republicans that are making all those negative comments about Palin are people that she dissed by going against them, including Lyda Green, Halcro, etc. They are just trying to get back at her because she didn’t do what they wanted her to do and instead went against big oil companies and politics as usual.
Posted by: GuyfromNorthPole | September 2, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Just ask Caribou Barbie how many states she has on her lapel pin. 50 or just 49? Covering up the crap in the litterbox is right.
Posted by: valerie | September 2, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Concerning the person who asked: ‘Isn’t the patrotism the most important thing as President?’
It’s a very important thing and that’s why a VP choice who wants to secede from the USA is unacceptable. She has to go.
Posted by: Auster1 | September 2, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
golfgirlusa
do you remember the last 10 months?
Obama has been brought through the ringer…from issues of his kids his wife the church…the politics
and guess what the majority of Americans liked his answers…
America is getting to see there are big questions with Palin…and right now …they aren’t letting her answer…as they pnic and teach her 30 second sound bites and send teams of lawyers and PR people to spin stuff in Alaska.
and this isn’t even addressing the fact that she is overwhelmingly ill equipped with the understandings that you need to address the enormous issues we are facing in the world…
McCain has in one swoop proven his judgment is not based on what is good for the country but what is good for McCain.
Posted by: dl | September 2, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Talk with reporters, make the circuit? Are you kidding? We are supposed to just fall in love with her as McCain did. She is campaigning with McCain isn’t that enough? She is a woman for crying out loud, she is supposed to get a pass. Besides John was a POW
Posted by: Thinking | September 2, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Media maggots are looking for more dead meat to feed on…
And, the Obama campaign is busy trying to provide more carrion…
Pathetic…
Posted by: Jayhawk | September 2, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
A worse choice for VP than Stockdale. And we all know what he did for ol’ Ross.
Posted by: Scabby-Nubtail | September 2, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Beck, sorry but Bristol Palin’s pregnancy IS news — although I understand and have some sympathy with the opposite viewpoint. It also would be news if Sen. Obama had a pregnant 17-year-old daughter, particularly if he and his party made a big deal about traditional “family values.” Many voters have opinions strong opinions about Miss Palin’s pregnancy — and therefore it becomes an issue.
More importantly, the pregnancy highlights John McCain’s poor judgment. It and apparent problems with Gov. Palin’s record lead inevitably to one of two conclusions: One, McCain did a shockingly bad job of vetting Gov. Palin; two, he did know about these problems and STILL went ahead and picked someone whose record — and whose daughter’s pregnancy — would be a distraction from and a drag on the campaign during a close election.
Posted by: Alex | September 2, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
This woman should be sent packing back to Alaska and stay there Take Mc Cain with you …This is something else…….May God help you and us esp if you are elected President.These are you choices we are in BIG TROUBLE
Posted by: indp voter | September 2, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Maybe Mccain thought “vice” president…meant something totally different…
like vice = drama.
then she might have been an appropriate pick.
Posted by: dl | September 2, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
What in the heck she will bring. I am still trying to figure it out. McCain is 72, if he dies this women can very well be the next president of the United States. She was a Mayor of a town of 6,000 people. She is barely going on the 2nd year as a governor. She is currently being investigated for the firing of he ex-brother in law a State trooper. She was a member of an independent group, who mission is to fight for the independence of Alaska. This is sad for our Party. We dont need this mess now.
Posted by: Jay Ford | September 2, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
This woman was not vetted, it shows McCain just jumped and once again showed poor judgement
He put POLITICS FIRST and COUNTRY LAST
Posted by: McCain = Poor judgment | September 2, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Like Batman you make enemies when you clean up corruption. Palin made a lot of enemies in Alaska by cleaning up the crooked politicians.
Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
What was McCain thinking? This was the HAIL MARY of all HAIL MARY’s
No more maverick, he is letting others run his campaing instead of picking Liebermann like he wanted
no more maverick
I cannot consider him any longer and will have to go with Obama
Posted by: bad pick | September 2, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Jayhawk
she’s a bad candidate
don’t get mad at the media even if they are over the top energized by all the drama this candidate brings…
McCain made a shallow choice…an inept one actually…
and you can not blame the media trying to sort through all the bad cr@p about this candidate.
Maybe Mccain should have actually taken the time to get to know who he was picking and what he was deciding before he did it…
kind of like his foreign policy.
ugh
or his economic policy (you know written, pushed and chosen by his team of “experts”)
Posted by: dl | September 2, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
A snakehandler AND a traitor? Damn – this can only get better. Pass the popcorn.
Posted by: blogenfreude | September 2, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
LOL so now Palin is Batman.
Are you saying she’s a schizophrenic vigilante?
I think her views are nutty but I wouldn’t go that far.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
P-O-T-A-T-O-E
Posted by: Nocore | September 2, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
“This is like a cat covering up crap in its litter box,” she says.”
I think this just about sums up not only the McCain campaign but Republican philosophy in general.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
So right wingers, are you ready for Joe-mentum to ride in a save the day?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
geevill -She was on the Ted Stevems campaign – FACT….she was part of the Steven’s 527 Group – FACT
She took millions is pork for her tiny village in Alaska
She is the farthest thing from a reformer and it is all coming out now
Posted by: she is NOT a reformer | September 2, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
“Sarah Palin once got a citation for fishing without a license”
She also likes to hunt moose.
Which is like hunting buffalo.
Which isn’t really hunting.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
geevil
go listen to her jovial little giggles and laughs as that DJ in alaska trashes that woman that Palin had issues with in the governemtn…
as he calls her a b!t(h, says that the woman is a BAD MOTHER (ugh can we say the word of the day is hypocrisy) and then the jerk proceeds to trash the woman’s weight…
Palin doesn’t have the character to even utter a “hey that’s not so cool”
Instead she snickers and giigles like a Jr High click queen from “heathers” or “mean girls”
get this woman out of St. paul and away from the invitation to even come close to the White House.
but before you do that answer her question as to “what the vice president does all day?”
Posted by: dl | September 2, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
This only undermines Hilliary further. You women are just burying yourselves. Can’t blame the men for it this time. It’s all on YOU, now!!!
Posted by: argh! | September 2, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
“That probably ranks right up there with the Rezko land scam”
What scam?
Obama paid 1/6 of the market price for 1/6 of the land from Rezko’s wife. The Obamas bought their home from a different party.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
nocore w/ “potatoe” for the win!
Posted by: mdh | September 2, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
From what I’m learning of Palin, she will do what is politically necessary to win, just like McCain is doing now.
Including going against her own pro-choice mother-in-law Faye Palin when Faye ran for mayor of Wasilla in 2002.
Including getting $26 million in earmarks for Wasilla during her last four years as mayor.
Posted by: cincyr | September 2, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
For those of you who are buying the line that Palin is some sort of a “corruption fighter,” she was one of the leaders of a 527 Committee for the King of Corruption, Senator Ted.
For those of you who are buying the line that she’s against pork and earmarks, she retained a lobbying firm that produced $27 million in federal funds for her tiny town.
I guess she was for Senator Ted before she was against him…for the “bridge to nowhere” before she was against…and for earmarks before she was against them.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | September 2, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Jayhawk
you seem to like Palin…after you go listen to that tape of her and the DJ
why don’t you tell us what her thoughts on terrorism are (“oh it’s bad”)
on Presidential signing statements
her ideas on the russia georgia conflict
trade agreements…
how and why she thinks we should take care of social security…and the details of why
and her reasons behind abstinence only being taught inschools
and her understanding of NAFTA…
and what she thinks of our need to get away from oil?
because this list goes on…of things she has never answered and there is no information or record that she KNOW ANY OF THEM!
yet you all jumpin up and down for her…
Obama Biden, Clinton McCain Lieberman, Hutchinson, etc etc etc
they know these issues that is why they get elected
Palin …nothing outside 20 months as governor of a small economically undiversified state… and working with the oil companies as her husband worked FOR them.
Posted by: dl | September 2, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
According to a number of Wasilla residents in an Anchorage newspaper article, Sarah Palin didn’t become a Republican until 1996 when she decided to run for Mayor of Wasilla.
Posted by: bon | September 2, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Sarah Palin, as governor, allows the practice of “aerial hunting” on taxpayer-owned land that is supposed to be set aside as hunting ground for the Alaska Gray Wolf. Aerial hunting means hunters pay $1.00 for the privilage of tracking down wolves with small planes for “sport”, shooting them and just leaving them where they lie. Her complete disregard for polar bears has prompted the National Wildlife Federation to air ads on TV in a last-ditch effort to fight extinction of polar bears in our children’s lifetime. What kind of person, man or woman, would take a stance like this? I guess you need to be an Alaskan to know one.
Posted by: bon | September 2, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
She supported AIP’s plan to secede from the USA! And some of u are defending THIS!!!!!! R u nuts? Its NO stale news…. its NO minor news…. its no cheap-shot… ITS AS BIG AS IT GETS. What was the old man thinkin?????
Posted by: NK | September 2, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Tell us how Obama saved education in Chicago. Where did the money go?
Posted by: geevill | September 2, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Let’s look at Palin and Obama’s past and see who is more radical.
As I recall Obama just left his pal Rev Wright a few months ago and only because it hurt his campaign.
Posted by: riley | September 2, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Her Eagle Forum questionnaire answers are priceless. She doesn’t even know the basics.
11. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.
Posted by: valerie | September 2, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
McCain/Palin: Alaska First
Posted by: Goon | September 2, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
“Let’s look at Palin and Obama’s past and see who is more radical.”
Hell we can look at the present for that.
Palin believes in teaching creationism in schools.
Palin believes that abortion should be severely restricted, even think the pill is a form of abortion.
She believes in abstinence education even when her own teenage daughter gets pregnant.
That’s fairly radical for a relatively moderate country.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
To the best of my knowledge SP has never plagiarized Neil Kinnock’s work (paging Professor Biden). Nor has she associated with known terrorists (uh, I’m talking about you Obama. Nice try, buddy) That alone makes her infinitely more qualified than the buffoons on the DEM ticket. Hey, I know that having a woman in power that doesn’t believe in abortion on demand (HC) is a threat to some of you. Oh well.
Posted by: Glen Hull | September 2, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
“11. Are you offended by the phrase “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?
SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance.”
The Pledge was adopted in the late 1800′s and the words under God were added in 1954.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Once again the media protects Obama.
Posted by: cindy in nc | September 2, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
We have video of Palin addressing the AIP so I don’t know what more to say about that.
Posted by: Mary | September 2, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
…yet another reason not to drill in ANWR.
What happens when Alaska secedes? ;)
Posted by: Yawp | September 2, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Sarh’s Pastor
But Pastor Kalnins has also preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war “contending for your faith;” and said that Jesus “operated from that position of war mode.”
Posted by: Thinking | September 2, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
To Golfgirlusa:
You stated, “It’s so strange, so unfair to attack Palin. Who is Obama’s pastor, what did his pastor say and do?”
Um, if you did not notice, Obama’s pastor is NOT ON THE TICKET; is NOT ONE HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENCY; and HIS VIEWS HAVE BEEN VERY FERVENTLY & PUBLICLY DISAVOWED BY OBAMA as is evidenced by his actions, words and the life that he has led!
Posted by: Killeen | September 2, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Thinking,
I am shocked…shocked I say to hear such virulent views coming from her pastor.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Not a radical secessionist: Sarah Palin, registered Alaska Republican continuously since 1982
Another pathetic, disgusting smear attempt. What will it be tomorrow? Palin evil clone produced from long-frozen embryo salvaged from Eva Braun’s corpse? ******* Governors have a public relations role on behalf of their states. Sarah Palin has embraced…
Posted by: BeldarBlog | September 2, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
All of this hoopla over Palin is just the media in a panic.
They know she has energized the GOP and that scares them to death.
America knows the media is in the tank for Obama.
McCain/Palin08
Posted by: riley | September 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
More of Sarah’s Pastor
Kalnins has preached that the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq were part of a “world war” over the Christian faith, one in which Jesus Christ had called upon believers to be willing to sacrifice their lives.
Posted by: Thinking | September 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
So… she was in a militia party. I wonder what their views on Timothey McVeigh were at the time.
I was a Republican in California back then… and even Republicans came dangerously close to condoning McVeigh’s actions against.
I really wonder what a full blown militia mom would have to say about it.
Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Her voter registration is available on line and shows that she has been a registered republican since ’82.
Posted by: olive | September 2, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Thanks to MSM such as ABC I have finally decided to not stay passive and be content to cast one vote in November. The non-stop, over-the-top partisan political advocacy reporting of MSM such as ABC is shameful and dishonorable and it has finally pushed me over the edge …. right into the Republican camp! As a lifelong Democrat who voted for George Bush in the last presidential election I have finally had enough. I will write my first check of the election season and my first check EVER to the Republican party; I will change at last my party affiliation and I will volunteer my time and resources to make sure that BO IS NOT ELECTED president of the U.S., and I will send every one of the solicitation letters I still get from my fellow Democrats back with a piece of my mind.
And next time ABC has “investigative” urges they should check into the background of Biden’s lobbyist son and the pending lawsuits against him. Or what about BO’s ties to the convicted fellon, Rezko, or his connections to the terrorist-turned-American-college-professor Ayers?
By bringing up people’s family members ABC has opened up the floodgates and now finally BO’s and Biden’s backgrounds and past relationships cannot be swept under the rug and called off limits. That’s the silver lining in all this ugliness, I guess. Perhaps now we can get ALL the truth voters deserve.
Posted by: shirin | September 2, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Voter Regfistration in most States are meaningless, all it means is that at sometime you voted in a Republican Primary. It has no bearing on weather one supported another party or not
Posted by: Thinking | September 2, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin employed a lobbying firm to secure almost $27 million in federal earmarks for a town of 6,700 residents while she was its mayor, according to an analysis by an independent government watchdog group.
Posted by: she is NOT a reformer | September 2, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
The wingnuts are running out of fire extinguishers.
Posted by: KenM | September 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Palin oversaw the hiring of a lobbyist, Steven Silver — a former chief of staff to now-indicted GOP senator Ted Stevens –to help win federal earmarks for the city.
the very issues that Abramoff headed up for Greenberg at the time. In other words, Silver appears to have been a part of “Team Abramoff.”
Posted by: she is NOT a reformer | September 2, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
OHMYGOSH!!!!
Reports are coming out now that she is also linked to Jack Abramoff.
What was McCain thinking?!?!!
Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Folks -
The AIP is a political force in Alaska. They are kind of like the Green Party for Liberals, big deal.
They are not a militia. They simply do not trust Washington much…and who does when you think about it.
Alaska probably would be better off by themselves….they would be richer per person than the Saudis…
So Obama went to the DailyKos convention and that was 3 weeks ago. They say more hateful things than AIP ever did.
What silly makenews…
Obama can attend a hate festival every Sunday for 20 years and you are chasing her for attending a legitimate political event 14 years ago?
Hope-o-crisy…
Posted by: Matt | September 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
This AIP convention was in her hometown of Wasila and she was on the city council…
She would be there anyway, as a local official.
Even Republicans in Colorado were invited guests to the DNC…does that make them Democrats?
Morons…
Posted by: Matt | September 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Not only did she attend AIP meetings… but she also expressed solidarity with them as governor in an official address.
Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Glenn Hull: “SP has never plagiarized Neil Kinnock’s work”
Don’t be so sure about that …
Everything the McCain-camp has said about SP turned out to be the exact opposite.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 2, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
And yet the media continues to ignore Tony Rezko, continues to ignore Ayers, continues to ignore snorting cocaine in the back of limosines, now is ignoring Joe Biden fabricating how his wife died with new embellishments.
It’s Sarah all the time, 24/7. They’ll do everything the can to prevent a woman being on a GOP ticket.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Matt
You’re spinning your wheels madly. You know Palin is sunk!
I see you wingnuts got your “blame the media and bloggers” talking points.
Put the blame for this fiasco squarely on the shoulders of McCain.
The lastest Gallup polls shows that Obama up 50-42. No Palin bounce for McCain. Once America sees how poorly McCain vetted Palin, they have serious questions about McCain’s judgment.
Just admit it Matt, McCain screwed up. He thought he could slip a hard right wing ideologue past us.
That’s been the problem with people like you Matt, you never admit to being wrong no matter how glaring wrong you are.
Posted by: KenM | September 2, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
I don’t think that we should be electing people from the militia movement.
Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
“They’ll do everything the can to prevent a woman being on a GOP ticket.”
And the groundwork begins to be laid for the rationalization of the inevitable Palin withdraw and kvetching over evil media.
So what do you guys think of Joe-mentum taking over?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Interesting poll numbers today:
Gallup Tracking: Obama +8
Rasmussen Tracking: Obama +6
Hotline/FD: Obama +9
CBS News: Obama +8
CNN: Obama +1
CNN is the last holdout, their poll was taken mostly before and during the announcement of SP when people didn’t know about Troopergate and Bridgegate. The first 4 were taken after these scandals became known.
Since them, we’ve all learned about AIPgate; Earmarkgate; Babygate and Investigationgate.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 2, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Ryan C: ofcourse they’re blaming others. It’s in their genes to blame others, never themselves.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Oh and LOL at people claiming this article is biased against Palin. The author has presented both sides of the argument.
How much more balance do you want?
Posted by: david | September 2, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Sarah must not be all fire and brimstone as people think.
She vetoed a bill that would have banned gay rights saying it would be unconstitutional.
Don’t give up Sarah. You can get through this.
Posted by: riley | September 2, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
I think Palin is going to withdraw. She cannot stay on the ticket and still win.
Right?
The only people I know who are behind Palin are either extreme Christian Republican partisans… or paid GOP political activists whose fortunes rest on how well they can spin this.
I don’t know any Democrats who think it is a good idea. I don’t know any independents who think it is a good idea. And, I know many moderate Republicans who are scratching their heads about Palin.
But I think the old guy is too stubborn to change his mind.
Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
A couple of things. First of all, the 1:22 video of SP’s address to the convention is evidence of what exactly? She might just as well been talking to a group of Shriners. And as for the person citing the polls. Former Presidents’ Dukakis, Gore as well as President Kerry would tend to agree. A poll taken before the completion of the Republican convention says it all. No need to even hold the election.
Posted by: Glen Hull | September 2, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
SP ran an administration of 50 people when Mayor.
But it gets even worse. When she was mayor, she was forced to outsource the running of that administration to … an administrator.
Admit it guys. McCain is toast.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Jim
Ayers!!! Rezko!!! Is that it?? That’s all you’ve got?
These talking points have long been discredited.
Ayers, despite his Weatherman past, is a distinguished professor at the University of Chicago. He founded Chicago Anneberg Challenge. He served on the board with Obama. He held one fundraiser in his home for Obama in 1996, when Obama was first running for the state senate.
The Rezko matter was fully investigated by the Chicago Tribune and Obama sat with the paper and let them ask whatever they wanted about Rezko. The paper said he was fully cooperative and answered every question to their satifaction.
The reason no one is interested in these stories Jim, is that there is no story. It’s just a lot of nonsensical noise from the wingnuts.
Posted by: KenM | September 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
This just keeps getting better and better! John McCain has proved to be beyond a “maverick”; he’s a loose cannon! I am an Obama supporter, but I’m energized by this campaign too – can’t wait to see what crawls out of the woodwork next. Very entertaining.
Posted by: Jerzygrl | September 2, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
“A poll taken before the completion of the Republican convention says it all.”
A poll is a snapshot of the given moment.
So next week, when McCain is down double digits, we can revisit this statement.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Matt,
AIP is more akin to a Libertarian extremist than the Green Party socialist.
If you don’t trust Washington, get involved and change it.
If you want a civil society for over 300 million people, you’re going to require a sizable government, regardless of what form it takes.
Sitting on your shopping bags and whining about what you don’t like about Washington only gives your money and your power to the corporations who sold you all that crap you just can’t live without.
Alaska wouldn’t be better off on it own, and its residents wouldn’t be rich as the Saudi royal family. Without investors and developers Alaska would have never been able to develop and export their most valued natural resources. They gave up their sovereignty in exchange for our “help.”
Alaska would never be allowed to secede. We went to war with Iraq to return the oil properties and leases that were nationalized in the 60s to the original members of the Iraq Petroleum Company consortium; we certainly wouldn’t wait over three decades to do the same in Alaska. If AIP had any real power, they would have already been declared terrorists by Bush and the oil companies and shipped off to GITMO. So, AIP is free to make all the noise it wants, but Alaska’s star on the flag isn’t going anywhere.
Any association by Sarah Palin with AIP calls her judgment into question. If she actually supports the secession of Alaska, she’s either a traitor to her country, or she’s insane.
Posted by: Yawp | September 2, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Wait a minute…William.
Are you saying SP’s longest executive experience over 50 whole employees was delegated to a town manager?
Geez she was really counting on that given her Gov experience is about as long as this election.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
And what about her fiscal responsibilities? “She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million.”
That’s a lot of money for a city with 5 or 6K inhabitants
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 2, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
jake…isn’t the orig date, the date she registered to vote, not when she registered with a party/
Posted by: justmy2 | September 2, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
How can their motto be “Country First” when the heartbeat away belongs to a nut fringe group that wants to SECEDE FROM THE UNITED STATES???
There will be much more to this story once it comes out that she has deep ties to the group and even attended meetings THIS YEAR.
Karl Rove made the decision to pick Palin as the Veep. McCain wanted Lieberman. This says a lot about how any McCain/Palin administration will be run.
Posted by: EX-Republican | September 2, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
“And what about her fiscal responsibilities? “She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million.”
That’s a lot of money for a city with 5 or 6K inhabitants”
That’s alot of money for a midsized city.
Thanks for the ehad sup on the article Willem (see I finally got it right)
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Jake,
Searching the Internet found out the “American Secession Project” a website that is (quoting) “Dedicated to placing secession in the mainstream of political thought as a viable solution to contemporary problems.” This means opting-out of the United States of America. At this site I found a link to the Alaskan Independence website Party (AIP). There I checked out the History section, where I found this:
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” – Joe Vogler. and this “Vogler served as Chairman of the Party from 1986 until his death in 1993.”
Mr Vogler’s rugged mug in on the Memorial section
It should really be easy to settle the question of “Who among the Alaskan populace is or was involved with AIP?”
Despite Alaska being the size of Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, and the United Kingdom combined (wikipedia), the residents there cluster around small, close-knit communities. Where family histories run long, deep and, unavoidably, intertwine. Histories that hang on the walls of dens, offices and foyers; filling family albums with old, cracked, sepia stained, photos.
“Know hope!” “Truth give birth in due time.”
Posted by: Rafa,BXNY | September 2, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Ok its over folks.
US Weekly’s cover all about Palin.
Headline: Babies, Lies & Scandal.
When US weekly is attacking you, you know you are the nation’s punching bag.
I predict her speech concludes with a withdrawing of her name for nomination.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Ryan C
Double digits? Oh, that’s funny. If Obama couldn’t open up a double-digit lead after wrapping up the DEM nomination against arguably a much stronger candidate (HC) than Mccain, he’s certainly not going to do it after the Republican National Convention. It’s that kind of mind-numbing logic by DEM supporters that have kept the Republicans in the White House for 28 of the past 40 years. This race will go down to the wire. Your candidate isn’t strong enough to close the sale in September.
Posted by: Glen Hull | September 2, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Even though I never heard of her until 2 days ago, I trust her to run this country, win 3 wars, fix our crumbling economy, and cut taxes for hard working Americans! McCain’s chronic health problems like cancer will work themselves out and if they don’t Palin will be ready from day one!
She ran a city and its 50 employees, didn’t she?? And her husband is a BP executive, he must know where we can find oil! And she obviously stands with all Americans in their fear of abortions.
McCain / Palin 08!
“It Can’t Get Worse, Can It?”
Posted by: NO MCCAIN, NO WAY | September 2, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
BLAME KARL ROVE, THE REPUBLICAN MASTERMIND.
Posted by: Why do republicans hate America? | September 2, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
John “Country First” McCain had no idea Palin was a member of the Alaska separatist party because he never wanted her as VP and therefore didn’t vet her. He wanted Lieberman or Ridge. But his Rove-protege political adviser panicked after the DNC went so well, and McCain did what they told him to do – go with a right-wing female in a desperate attempt to pull some votes.
“Country First?” Yeah right – picking someone who would be an unmitigated disaster should McCain’s cancer get the better of him, just because your campaign guys say it will mean votes. Sorry McBush, the Hail Mary pass just landed about 5 yards outta bounds.
Posted by: JL | September 2, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Glen Hull
Nice try at the spin, son. The pollsters have said that the closeness of the two conventions and the timing of McCain’s annoucement has skewed this election season’s post convention polling.
The Labor Day weekend and Gustav are over and as more people focus on the McCain’s monumentally flawed choice and incredibly poor judgment, the polls will slowly move to a double digit lead for Obama.
Posted by: KenM | September 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
No Mccain, No Way
Let’s see what what your side has to offer. First, you’ve got a community organizer/lawyer/author. If that doesn’t scream White House potential, nothing will. Then you have a plagiarizing ###### that brags about being the poorest man in the Senate. Biden’s financial records say he’s in debt. On a Senator’s salary? Is that even possible? So, either Biden’s a congenital liar, or he’s terrible with money.
Posted by: Glen Hull | September 2, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
I find it fascinating that the media is on Day 5 of Rumor and innuendo against Palin’s family, but when John Edwards story was the 900 pound gorilla in the room, they wouldn’t touch it. Edwards and his campaign manager very probably committed crimes of campaign finance law and a fraud on donors, but the media claims it was a family matter, so hands off.
Brian Ross this morning was trying to call McCain a liar because a few Republicans went out partying last night, but no mention of the fact that ABC camera man was strangled trying to film Obama/Biden/Edwards money man Fred Baron, the one who paid hush money for Rielle Hunter. I’m sure the women of America can see the irony of a tale of two babies.
Posted by: TJ King | September 2, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Ken M
You make a ridiculous comment about “skewed” polling, and I’m the one trying to “spin”. Classic. Fact is, Dem’s went last week, Republicans are going now. There will be a bounce. The Republicans always do better in the fall. Just ask Kerry, Gore and that idiot that posed in the tank. I’ll say it again, you have a deeply flawed candidate that can’t close the sale. In this environment, the race should have been over in June.
Posted by: Glen Hull | September 2, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
This is ridiculous.
I’m so mad at John McCain and his joke of a campaign, I could spit.
The Republican party – MY PARTY! – is supposed to the party of patriots, the party of putting America first.
I think there’s plenty wrong with Washington DC – and lately, neither party has done a damn thing to fix it.
But to secede?
No way. It’s not often that I’ll quote a Democrat, but read your history… Andrew Jackson had a pretty good response when he was asked what he’d do if a state’s leader tried to secede – he said he hang ‘em right on the White House lawn.
Way to go McVain… You’ve been stabbing MY party – not YOURS – in the back for 20 years, and now, you just put the cherry on top.
You pick a candidate for the Vice Presidency of the United States who, it seems, DOESN’T EVEN WANT TO BE A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES!
I won’t vote for those damn liberals – Obama and Biden – but there is no way in HELL I’m voting McVain and his secessionist VP.
I guess it’s writing in Duncan Hunter for me.
Posted by: Todd | September 2, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Considering that the media is “in the tank for Obama” how strange that a media study demonstrated that 70% of Obama coverage is negative. How strange, indeed.
Posted by: Facts Folks | September 2, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Don’t diss the foreign policy experience you get as Governor of Alaska! It appears that relations between the United States and Alaska have never been better, and we have this former secessionist and her challanging year and a half in office to thank for the solid relationship between Alaska and its number 1 trading partner, the U.S.
Posted by: Another Luke | September 2, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
It seems that the Palin choice is likely a bait thrown out to lure “old politics.” A Rove playbook reversed.
Posted by: Julian | September 2, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
According to Josh Marshall at TPM, the Alaska Division of Elections says that Todd Palin was a registered member of AIP from 1995 through 2002.
Why does Todd Palin hate America?
Why did John McCain make such a poor choice? Is this kind of knee-jerk decision making the steady hand America needs during these uncertain times?
Posted by: ajg | September 2, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Mary – There’s video of Palin ddressing the AIP?!!!
McCain: “NO VETTING, NO WAY, TRUST ME”
How could the good senator have been so thoughtless and inconsiderate, here, with the VP choice?!
Democracy, in America, depends on a healthy and “functional” two party system.
This is a major disappointment.
America, touting her “Democracy”, now, is going to look more foolish in the world’s eyes!!!
Posted by: Rafa,BXNY | September 2, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
This has nothing to with Obama. This is all the MSM and anti-McCain bloggers. McCain hired the electioneer who smeared him in 2000 and is running with Rove. Don’t believe for a second John’s hands are clean.
Posted by: Jason | September 2, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Party registration does not equate to party membership. You could be a registered Republican without being a member of the party. Likewise, you could be a member of the party and not be registered for that party. Palin could easily have been a registered Republican while holding an AIP membership.
Posted by: Ian S | September 2, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
If the MSM can play 10-30 seconds worth of video of Jeremiah Wright for days and days on end, then they had better be able to make Sarah Palin’s affiliation with a political party that supports a vote on secession from the Union for at least that much time.
The MSM should do its job and force John McCain answer exactly why and how he chose someone to be VP that may well believe that there should only be 49 states. If the answer is “I didn’t know,” he should explain in detail how he and his campaign could have missed such a staggeringly important fact, and chose his proposed #2 for the most powerful nation on Earth on the basis of what seems for all the world like nothing more than a rash whim.
Posted by: Spenser | September 2, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
As a slight divergence from the thread, it just occurred to me that all of the “no experience” arguments that are being made against Obama would have been used verbatim against Hillary.
So what does that really say about the validity of the argument?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
I guess Palin is actually more qualified than ANY Senator to be at the top of the ticket if you happen to buy that logic.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
The MSM ignores all of Obama’s evil associations…even when there is video and audio. Yet they are willing to spread factless rumours about a woman. Shame on you ABC. I don’t care what you say. I will be listening to Sarah Palin herself on Wednesday. I don’t want my impressin filtered through the Obama MSM lens.
Posted by: Kathy Corey | September 2, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Big Daddy,
You lost me at #1.
If only all terrorists just had
“Terrorist” as their middle name
we could cut the CIA budget substantially.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
It’s typical of these republicans to attack Obama personally with lies rather then to want to debate the real issues this country is facing. Let’s talk about Palin and what lack of vetting was done in selecting her. Lets talk about McCains age and health. McCain jumped the gun and chose Palin for the wrong reasons. I’m sure there is a more qualified vp candidate out there for McCain. But he didn’t care. She wasn’t vetted. Her last pregnancy was strange being that she didn’t show physically at all. What does it say of her character and judgement to bring her 17 year old pregnant daughter on the campaign trail to be thrown under the bus..she just threw her to the wolves. Why tell the world she is pregnant and then say they want privacy. Yeah ok…?! Please come join the rest of us in the real world.
Posted by: Daisy | September 2, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Leonard:
Something you have been lost your whole life…
Posted by: Big Daddy | September 2, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
wonder when their records stopped going back that far
Posted by: zoom24 | September 2, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Big D,
What does that actually mean?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
I’m confused.
You mean to tell me that McCain couldn’t find a VP candidate that didn’t want their to seceed from the Union?
Posted by: petraK | September 2, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
It’s too bad, we’re not looking at the right issues and assigning anger to the right person. McCain should be ashamed. He couldn’t pick Lieberman, so he picks the weakest person he could. I guess figuring, well I can’t have my way, I’ll show you(Republican Party) He’s been smiling and laughing ever since. If he wanted a female VP, I find it difficult to believe Palin is it. He doesn’t really believe it. He’s walked on the toes of every female qualified senator and he ‘s laughing at it. At one point, McCain was going to independent, leaving the Republican party. But he said, oh, heck I’ll hang in there vote with Bush. Make it look like I can be a team player. Now for lots and lots of reason, he’s picked Palin whom I understand after the fact, he’s team is finally vetting. It’s payback to the Republican party. If he gets elected, he’ll get to thumb his nose at the entire country. Why? for being left for 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W. If he really cared, I believe he would have sought a qualified VP. So if you’re upset, be upset with the right person and look right at McCain. After all he talked to her for 5-10 minutes, he knows her well.
Posted by: Vikki | September 2, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
I was ready to drop this with the lack of a paper trail… but witnesses are good enough for our judicial system.
Is there a reasonable doubt as to where her loyalties lay?.. A Question.
Is there a reasonable doubt as to her veracity? Not So Much
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Who says Sarah Palin doesn’t have foreign policy experience? Indeed, if she and her husband and the AIP had their way, Alaska would be a foreign country!
Posted by: Timothy Cleaveland | September 2, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Ouch,
That last round in my foot stings a bit.
Veracity? A bigger question actually, if
in fact she is playing both sides of the fence on the Alaska First issue.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
I guess Palin is actually more qualified than ANY Senator to be at the top of the ticket if you happen to buy that logic.
If you are like most Americans, there is hope!
Posted by: Jude | September 2, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Jude,
The less you know, the more qualified you are.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
I’m having a Deja Vu moment here…
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
And to believe she would be a heartbeat away from being Commander-in-Chief if McCain dies. My God, what a country we would have then. I fought for the United States of America, I guess she wanted us to find for the Nation of Alaska and the other Red States. Blue Ones would not count.
Posted by: Doug | September 2, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Interesting,
The “Liberal Media Conspiracy” just pulled the link to the Palin AIP speech and left me with a dangling comment.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
What about Mr.Palin’s DUI’s ??
Posted by: RepubinGa | September 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
This is an important story. Why isn’t it being pushed more into the news?
Come on, after all the hooey about Michelle and Baraks patriotism. This is very germane to the discussion.
On another note, what about the gathering of over 10,000 people at the Ron Paul dissident convention? If they were “PUMAs”, you would be all over it.
Posted by: Pogyak | September 2, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
I never knew how nervous the Democrats were becoming until watching their reaction to medias smearing of Palin. They are positively coming unhinged. Yet they are so wrapt up in the feeding frenzy that they can’t see what Palin is doing for the Republican party base. She has singlehandedly galvanized the base and got them excited about a McCain presidency.
In November they’ll come out in droves like never before and vote McCain/Palin into office.
It is not difficult to understand why the Democrats are so frightened of Sarah Palin VP pick but the delicious dichotomy is that their media’s hyper-ventilated political hack job on Sarah Palin is finally energizing the Republican base like nothing else would!
Posted by: maryam | September 2, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Maryam says that Palin has galvanized the “base” and they’ll come out in droves for Palin. But those same people also hate McCain, finding him to be too wishy washy on nearly every “base” issue. He’s voted against bills he’s written. He’s not solid on any issue these days.
So, at *best* the Palin pick merely evens out the enthusiasm of the “base” a little, while scaring off people that were on the fence about McCain.
My bet is that she’s off the ticket within a week. She’s a nightmare, and McCain didn’t know it because he had only just barely met her once before picking her.
This goes to show just how he’d run the whitehouse if elected. Scared yet? You should be.
Posted by: McPain | September 2, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
traitor. the party ticket should read the angry old man and the traitor.
Posted by: sk8boardgrind | September 2, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Why does Todd Palin hate America?
Posted by: Diva | September 2, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Can you IMAGINE how crazy the right wing would be going if Michelle or Barack Obama had been associated with a group like this? Sean Hannity would be talking about it every day on his program. Something tells me that when it is Sarah Palin or her husband they won’t bring it up. I guess we can only question the patriotism of Democrats.
Posted by: Tanya | September 2, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
CBS News reports that Chryson who says Palin was at the 1994 Convention did not see her himself. Pretty weak source. What was that about vetting?
Posted by: Scott Anderson | September 3, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Am I the only republican who believes that there were…..hold on let me count…1,2,3…96 prominent, qualified people of our party who could have been McCains VP pick!!!! Am I the only one Ticked off???? Why not Huckabee???? Im voting for Obama to show my disdain for McCain, because Palin is just not the best person for the job. PERIOD!!!!
Posted by: wasrepublican | September 3, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am
Alaskan independence?
time to move to Alaska.
Posted by: million | September 3, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
What was John McCain thinking? Did he know anyting about Sarah Palin when he chose her to be his VP?
Is he trying to sink the GOP?
Posted by: John | September 3, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Palin is a non-issue to everyone except the far-right-wing of the evangelical-wing of the Republican Party.
There is ONLY one issue, and that is McCain had MONTHS to vet EVERY Republican that could even have possibly been considered. They vetted her (such as it was) the day before she was selected. This woman has more baggage than Santa does on Christmas Eve!
America CANNOT AFFORD to take a risk on a PRESIDENT that is that compulsive. McCain has PROVED he is intellectually and emotionally unfit for the office of President. Beyond that, his actions are an insult to America.
Posted by: Mylegacy | September 3, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
So with one fell swoop, John McCain, Mr. Shoot From The Hip Ask Questions Later Maverick, has picked a VP who in her first day on the national scene in her opening statement to the American people comes out with a bold faced lie about her stance on the bridge to nowhere, who sympathizes with, if not a closet member of, an anti-U.S. secessionist party, who as a proponent of abstinence has shown us how well it works, and she comes neatly packaged with her own little ethics investigation (which, by the way, McCain’s lawyers are frantically trying to stall and obstruct). And yet they say she was thoroughly vetted. They say picking your VP is your first major test as a nominee and gives the world an idea of how you would do things. Well, whaddya think?
Posted by: JDL51 | September 3, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
hey “today”:
you say “1994, that was so long ago. Who cares?”
Well, see… her husband was a member of the party until 2002 (only changed it when she started running for office). Oh, and in 2008 (rather recently, yes?) she addressed the AIP convention – saying she was “delighted” to do so. At that convention they referred to her as the candidate they had supported for governor.
Seems she’s at least a little bit friendly with them even now. They want to secede. As in they are very definitely not pro-America.
That’s why people care.
Posted by: jcm52 | September 3, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
oh please-don’t use Hillary Clinton name in the same sentence with Palin! Hillary is a woman who has fought for the rights of ALL Americans-not a select group of people living in a state that actually gives a rebate check to the citizens because they have a surplus from the rest of the 49 buying a product from them …OIL……America’s Saudi Arabia……NO WONDER Palin doesn’t support Alternative Energy….she might have to really taken on fiscal decisions in her state……if she didn’t have the oil companies filling the state’s treasury….
It is insulting to women everywhere that the Republicans believe that Sarah Palin is supposed to be an equal within John McCain’s adminstration. Perhaps Cindy McCain and Sarah can exchange recipes….. This ALaska Independence Party “issue” really needs to be explored. If she were to take office…one must look at the Oath she is sworn to uphold….would she do this …? To protect the UNITED STATES…read united…United States of America. Of course she had no problem taking pork barrel spending from the FED…now did she??
Wake up everyone! THis women is a threat to our freedom and way of life!
SHAME ON YOU JOHN MCCAIN! TO think I thought about voting for you not less than 3 months ago…
Posted by: mary | September 3, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
oh please-don’t use Hillary Clinton name in the same sentence with Palin! Hillary is a woman who has fought for the rights of ALL Americans-not a select group of people living in a state that actually gives a rebate check to the citizens because they have a surplus from the rest of the 49 buying a product from them …OIL……America’s Saudi Arabia……NO WONDER Palin doesn’t support Alternative Energy….she might have to really taken on fiscal decisions in her state……if she didn’t have the oil companies filling the state’s treasury….
It is insulting to women everywhere that the Republicans believe that Sarah Palin is supposed to be an equal within John McCain’s adminstration. Perhaps Cindy McCain and Sarah can exchange recipes….. This ALaska Independence Party “issue” really needs to be explored. If she were to take office…one must look at the Oath she is sworn to uphold….would she do this …? To protect the UNITED STATES…read united…United States of America. Of course she had no problem taking pork barrel spending from the FED…now did she??
Wake up everyone! THis women is a threat to our freedom and way of life!
SHAME ON YOU JOHN MCCAIN! TO think I thought about voting for you not less than 3 months ago…
Posted by: mary | September 3, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Well since McCain is an expert on breakaway republic like Georgia, he can deal with Palin and her AIP Breakaway Republic of Alaska, especially since theRussians are so close.
What a bunch of bull, Palin is a cynical prop.
Posted by: stormbrew2 | September 3, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Wow.
What a lot of B.S.
Democrats can not stand the thought of a strong Republican woman, just like They can;t stand strong Conservative Blacks. Non issues are wrestled with and stretched to make issues.
What a joke!
Posted by: harpcat | September 4, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Everything happened so long ago. Let’s give Palin a chance.
Posted by: John | September 4, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Sarah gave a video speech at the AIP party convention **this year**. The AIP party wants Alaska to secede from the United States and becomes its own country.
In my mind, that is treason against the United States of America.
Sarah Palin is not qualified because of this.
Posted by: Mary | September 4, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
I expect the press to go after Todd Palin’s patriotism with the same venom with which they attacked Michelle Obama’s or admit that they are as racist as I think they are. I’m horrified by these double standards.
Posted by: Di | September 6, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
After Alaska’s secession, Sarah can become Empress of Alaska, and Todd can be her Prince-Consort.
Go for it, Sarah!
Posted by: Lenore | September 6, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
i think with the ludicrousness of this election comes some wisdom. This isn’t a battle of race or sex as much as it is the wealthy vs the majority. Can they really buy their way to the white house again? Or have the masses grown too intelligent for this kind of control??
Posted by: Azaelya | September 7, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Well, all the Nuts are losing it over Gov. Palin. Why the irrational anger? USA TODAY/Gallup poll shows McCain-Palin up by 10 with likely voters. The Messiah has a Freudian slip and mentions his “Muslim faith” in an interview with Steffi. LOL!
Posted by: Master Shake | September 8, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
To: Master Shake
Where is the proof that the Republican Party is the party of the wealthy? The Democratic Party has as many if not wealthy people as the Republican Party. George Sores, the vast majority of Hollywood, the Mainstream Media and I can go on and on with examples of people with money who are Democrats.
Posted by: Clyde | September 9, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
To: Master Shake sorry meant for Azaelya
“This isn’t a battle of race or sex as much as it is the wealthy vs the majority”
Where is the proof that the Republican Party is the party of the wealthy? The Democratic Party has as many if not more wealthy people than the Republican Party. George Sores, the vast majority of Hollywood, the Mainstream Media and I can go on and on with examples of people with money who are Democrats.
Posted by: Clyde | September 9, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
I don’t know when you guys at ABC and other news agencies are going to finally get it. This report is again based on hearsay just like the trooper story which everyone found out the truth that Palin wanted him fired for tasering his 10 year old step son just to show others how it worked.
Come on we all know most of the media is liberal and is doing everything they can to tamper with information to get the voter to vote Obama. It used to be that reports like this one were based on FACTS not hearsay. I hope you’ll be eating these words again.
If I ever see a politician run on a platform that includes severe penalties for poor reporting like this I’ll vote for him in a second! You guys have been no better than the rags that report on celebrities like the Enquirer! Certainly you aren’t professionals.
Posted by: chris | September 9, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Palin has NOW opened a can of worms by recently saying Obama is “palling around with terrorists.”
EVERYONE is now aloud to question The Palin’s association with AIP; troopergate scandal, witchcraft practices; improper use of funds to pay for family trips…Palin started it….
Posted by: Cathy | October 5, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
“He who is without sin, cast the first stone”.
Sounds like McCain and Sarah haven’t read their bibles.
“What goes around, comes around, and it comes back 10 fold”. Perhaps they haven’t heard of this one either.
I’d say these two better run for cover!
Posted by: Dee | October 5, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
McCain had a choice of many really intelligent republican women in the congress; why did he pick this unknown, finger wagging, winking, spiteful woman? Oh, yeah! I know. She lies so prettily with a smile and a wink and the republicans are so desperate they will do anything to win the White House again. God help the USofA. Our great country cannot survive four more years of Bush voodoo economics.
Posted by: Phyllis Lilly | October 6, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
How can the records showing members of the AIP not go back as far as 1995, but detailed records go back to the 1994 AIP convention showing who attended?
McCain/Palin need to drop associating Obama with Ayers and Rev. Wright when Palin is married to a man who is/was member of an organization that doesn’t want Alaska to be a state in the United States of America. The AIP founder is quoted saying he doesn’t need American or its damned institutions. Sounds like Sarah Palin’s husband isn’t proud to be an American.
Posted by: kckid | October 6, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
We cannot expect Palin to have the drive or courage to work with the bureaucracy of the US government when she is such an outsider and has so little respect for the laws and institutions of this country that she would support Alaska’s secession. The leader of the Alaska Independence Party openly spouted hate for America. That is far more un-American than Obama’s loose, minor acquaintance with Ayers.
Posted by: franny | October 9, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
But Obama DID pal around with terrorists. Ayers bragged in his memoir that he bombed the Pentagon and other buildings. There’s clear and documented evidence Obama had an ongoing relationship with Ayers.==============================The AIP accusations are nothing more than muddying the waters.========================
Question: What does Barack Obama and Osama Bin Ladin have in common?===============Answer: They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.==============Any attacks about Palin/AIP pales in comparison.
Posted by: Darryl | October 10, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I am tired of hearing Conservatives whine about the “mainstream” ..er, elite liberal media. Palin has already given her ultimatum about how she “chooses” to speak, defining her terms, and whether or not she will answer, etc. Where’s the outrage?
Re: Ayers. The Annenberg project was founded by Walter Annenberg, a lifelong Republican appointed by Nixon and Reagan.
The Annenberg board also included several civic, business and education leaders, many of them Republicans.
Former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson calls the Ayers smear silly and ridiculous.
Posted by: Kathy | October 10, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
hahahahaha, i cant believe how some of you commentators can justify Palin’s treason by saying it that it occurred so long ago. It’s like telling our government to let pedophiles, rapists, and terrorists out of jail for crimes they committed a decade ago; because it was….well…. “so long ago”
Posted by: vic | October 12, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
The founder of the AIP, Joe Vogler, had this to say about America. This was before he was murdered during a sale of plastuc explisives gone bad.
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won’t be buried under their damn flag. I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”
And she has the audacity to take Obama to task over his tangential link to Ayers??
Posted by: Justin | October 13, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
My problem with Palin and McCain is that they are not the Christians that they profess to be. They lie, bear false witness and endanger human life by inciting their angry crowds into potentially violent mobs. McCain and Palin have done nothing to rebuke this preacher who describes all Moslims, buddhists and Sikhs of the world as “praying for the enemy” (referring to Barrack Obama. There are 7 million American Moslims. My husband is Buddhist – are we the enemy now? Wil we be persecuted if McCain and Palin win? If Republican Christians say they are afraid – try being us!!
Those Republican mobs are terrible people and the reason they are so poor? is because they are so thick.
Posted by: karen | October 14, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
A turd wrapped in fine newspaper and sprayed with perfume and lipstick is still gonna stink.
Posted by: sg | October 14, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Cheers to the AIP , anyone want to start TIP for Texans Independent Party? This government has made every lower and middle worker a slave, working our off for minimum wage just to pay income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, service taxes, usage taxes, license fees, renewal fees, inspection fees, registration fees, fines, fees, penelties, surcharges, auto insurance, helth insurance, interest, and more taxes. We aren’t even left with enough to feed our families or pay for our homes. Then they have taken our rights away, they have taken our privacy…..
Posted by: di | October 16, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
I dont know why MAINSTREAM media spends so much time diging for dirt on Palin. Its like Joe Biden and Obama get a pass on everything they have ever said or did in their past. I would like to see some honest investigation on all the canidates equally. I am sure if CNN,ABC and CBS did that, the polls would not be where they are today. Obama is the most secretaive canidate I have ever seen. Demand to see his College records. I bet most people will not like what they see. how about some of the the things he has stated in his book, But dont worry the mainstream media has given the Democrats a pass, its not that important its only a presidential campaign. They have all jumped on the OBAMA train and dont care what he may do to our country. You will all feel very stupid in a few years when his time is over. I dont think Obama will be office more than one term, once eveyone see’s his true colors.
Posted by: james | October 22, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am
The true information is certainly relevant and I think the American public should know the truth about this matter. I’ve heard nothing but lies from Sarah Palin and at the same time she professes to be a Christian and her husband Todd is really a dangerous individual and could very easily be a terrist. I’m surprised the RNC was willing to purchase the clothes he wore to the Republican National Convention.
Posted by: Rocky | October 25, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm