By Nitya

Sep 16, 2008 7:10am

Anti-Abortion 527 Launches Anti-Obama TV Ad

A new 527 has emerged. Called BornAliveTruth.org, the political organization says its mission "is to educate the public on the IL Born Alive Infants Protection Act and Sen. Obama’s record opposing this act."

In this TV ad, which is said to be airing in battleground states New Mexico and Ohio, a woman named Gianna Jessen says she survived a failed abortion, and criticizes Obama for voting against legislation that would have declared that if a baby survives an abortion, its life must be saved.

“I’m a survivor, as are many others … but if Barack Obama had his way, I wouldn’t be here," she says.  "Four times, Barack Obama voted to oppose a law to protect babies left to die after a failed abortion. Sen. Obama, please support born alive infant protections. I’m living proof these babies have a right to live."

Jessen claims on her Web site to have survived her then-17-year-old mother’s saline abortion in her third trimester. *

We told you about this abortion vote, that Republicans would use against Obama, back in January.

- jpt

* UPDATE: Jessen has posted medical records on her Web site to support her story, which you can see HERE.

User Comments

Good should make woman come back to Barack Obama!
PRO CHOICE!
MY BODY MY DECISION!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am

Good should make woman come back to Barack Obama!
PRO CHOICE!
MY BODY MY DECISION!
Posted by: Deb
But once an aborted child is born alive, it is no longer YOUR body, and no longer YOUR decision!

Posted by: Charlie35 | September 16, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am

The issue is too complicated and the economy in too much of a crisis mode for swing voters to truly go for this.

Posted by: matt | September 16, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am

Obama is so too far to the left.

Posted by: Kitty | September 16, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

Barack Obama voted against the Illinois bill because it had added language that would have watered down the right of woman granted under Roe Vs Wade.
They don’t tell you that do they!
As I said as a woman I stand by him. My body My choice.
When one campaign is talking issues and one campaign is spreading smears and lies. I know who I will be voting for Barack Obama!
Truth matters!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am

same team
same tactics
going for a 9th year
how’d the last 8 work for ya?
throw these bums out

Posted by: dl (the real one) | September 16, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

Republicans right wingers will not succeed this time around, the economy is sick, people have lost their houses and now their jobs under the watch of a republican government and a repoublican congress. No need for this non issue, women have to decide what they do when they are faced with this important decision. There is no place for McCain or Palin to get themselves involved in a wman’s decision. God save America from the extreem right wingers like Palin and McCain.

Posted by: BKMC | September 16, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am

One has to admit what Obama was for is kind of sicko.
Baby born alive and then let it die? That is wrong.

Posted by: Zank | September 16, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

This is just silly. No one would vote to let a baby die if it’s life could be saved. Anyone with common sense should know better.

Posted by: mhhunt | September 16, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am

Sherry on The View had more abortions then she can count on her hands. Makes me think something needs to be done. Also, I thought my neighbors were voting for Obama but it turns out to be wrong. Look at the poll breakdown, 38% of whites voting for Obama but 96% of blacks are so it looks like it’s all even.

Posted by: Scott | September 16, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am

Barack Obama voted against the Illinois bill because it had added language that would have watered down the right of woman granted under Roe Vs Wade.
They don’t tell you that do they!
As I said as a woman I stand by him. My body My choice.
When one campaign is talking issues and one campaign is spreading smears and lies. I know who I will be voting for Barack Obama!
Truth matters!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am

Not scientifically speaking.
The DNA is separate and distinct. So, those are *your* Y chromosomes? I don’t think so.
From a moral standpoint, additionally, it’s just wrong. Do you not know we will one day answer for our actions, both as individuals and as a nation? One million innocents slaughtered per year. We are making the Nazis look like choirboys.
God have mercy on us all.

Posted by: Glenn | September 16, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am

Scott,
You wrote:
“Makes me think something needs to be done.”
————————————-
Yeah like sex education and condoms in school! Education and common sense sounds like a good start to me!
Teens are going to have sex just look at Palin’s daughter. If she had a condom she wouldn’t be in such a hard place with so much of her future already decided!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

Obama’s record in Illinois should come out more. There is a lot more in there than people know.

Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 16, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am

Sounds about right. Oduma thinks he is God; thinks he can walk on water; decide who lives and who dies. This evil egotist also thinks the Presidency is all about him – him making history, him in the White House, him on the world stage.
Sick man and an even sicker country if he’s elected.

Posted by: AndrewWyeth | September 16, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am

Did anyone ever notice how the Repulical part is pro-death, yet they call them selves pro-life solely because of the abortion issue?
They start wars for no reason, killing thousands of Americans.
They vote staunchly against auto safety standards and truck safety standards, causing 25,000 Americans to die unnecessarily in car accidents.
They are unwilling to agree to even the most minor restrictions on mega-machine guns like AK47′s, causing many children and adults to be killed unnecessarily every year.
They are opposed to health care coverage for impoverished children, and cause the deaths of many more children by disease and starvation in the US than those who die from abortions.
If you counted total lives allowed to live, democrats outscore republicans by leaps and bounds.
The truth is: Republicans have no interest in human life whatsoever except for when it is in the womb. Once a person is born, republicans care nothing about their life.
My republican friends, just because your party calls itself pro-life does not mean that it is. If you value life, think for a minute about the big picture.

Posted by: clifton | September 16, 2008, 7:51 am 7:51 am

Whatever Deb. Gianna wasn’t in anyones body but I guess you don’t care about that. Born babies deserve to live however they were born but you and Obama do not care. God does this remind anyone of Mengele? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

Posted by: dawnsblood | September 16, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am

Glenn
No one likes abortion! But woman have the right to chose.
As for Palin view I can think of nothing more evil then making a rape victim have to give birth to their attackers seed!
That’s just wrong, sick and inhuman.
Education and condoms means no unwanted pregnancies!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

Clifton you hit the nail on the head

Posted by: dennisfchicago | September 16, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

Obama’s spending is out of control. How can we expect him to run the government if he cannot even control his own campaign. All this spending and he’s behind in the polls. What a waste of money.

Posted by: PaulK | September 16, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

dawnsblood,
They shouldn’t have tried to sneak in wording to the legislation that would water down the rights granted under Roe vs Wade! Then it would have became law!
**
Barack Obama voted against the Illinois bill because it had added language that would have watered down the right of woman granted under Roe Vs Wade.
They don’t tell you that do they!
As I said as a woman I stand by him. My body My choice.
When one campaign is talking issues and one campaign is spreading smears and lies. I know who I will be voting for Barack Obama!
Truth matters!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

Deb, Sherry on The View appears to be out of high school! It’s a little late for her. How do we control women like her using abortion as birth control.

Posted by: Scott | September 16, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

“Obama’s spending is out of control”
Check your facts, PaulK. Obama did not start the $1 Trillion War, nor did he lead us into $1 Trillion debt. McCain’s party did that.
And by the way, the subject of this article is human life, not spending.
AS YOU KNOW, Obama voted against the $1 Trillion dollar war. If he had been president at the time, we would have no $1 Trillion dollar war in Iraq, AND 4,100 fewer DEAD AMERICANS.
Obama = less spending, more life
McCain = more spending, more death

Posted by: clifton | September 16, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

No one likes abortion! But woman have the right to chose.
As for Palin view I can think of nothing more evil then making a rape victim have to give birth to their attackers seed!
That’s just wrong, sick and inhuman.
Education and condoms means no unwanted pregnancies!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am

Clifton wrote:
They start wars for no reason, killing thousands of Americans.
I had no idea we started the war when 9/11 occurred. We are to blame for that attack. Yeah, I hear you. Re: Iraq, I concede that to a poor commander in chief.
They vote staunchly against auto safety standards and truck safety standards, causing 25,000 Americans to die unnecessarily in car accidents.
I had no idea Republicans were responsible for every death on the highway. I thought people take their lives in their own hands when they chose to accelerate their bodies to speeds not normally attainable by running.
They are unwilling to agree to even the most minor restrictions on mega-machine guns like AK47′s, causing many children and adults to be killed unnecessarily every year.
Are you aware that the standards the Dems used to ban assault weapons were based on how *aggressive* they looked?
They are opposed to health care coverage for impoverished children, and cause the deaths of many more children by disease and starvation in the US than those who die from abortions.
I am not opposed to health care coverage for the poor. I am opposed to covering the health care of those who are not from this country, from my wallet, without my consent. I am opposed to mandatory government health care, with no choice. So, more than 1 million children die in the US per year due to disease and starvation? You should be our next president!
If you counted total lives allowed to live, democrats outscore republicans by leaps and bounds. The truth is: Republicans have no interest in human life whatsoever except for when it is in the womb. Once a person is born, republicans care nothing about their life.
The truth is: you suffer the death of unborn babies for the convenience of “choice.” That will make a poor argument when we all are judged after we die. And I do care.
Glenn

Posted by: Glenn | September 16, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

Scott,
While I don’t know the ins and outs of Sherry’s life I’d say in general Education and maybe a slap ? I don’t know it would seem it is better than her having kids! Condoms and education have worked over the world! Why not here ?

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

Samantha
What evil is what your mother went through.
And Samatha as you have said your mother had the choice!
Palin want to take away that right!
Thats evil!
I wouldn’t carry the seed if i was in that situation!
Life begins at birth.. That’s why its called your birthday when people ask your age its from your birthday not conception!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Freaken lies same as McCain>>> people are going to remember this ,if you are saying something tell the WHOLE TRUTH….

Posted by: indp voter | September 16, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

Republicans/Conservatives ..
want a U.S.theocracy and don’t trust women to make their own medical decisions..
they’re all about individual rights, except for women…..
- even Justice Scalia doesn’t believe that embryo’s have ‘rights’ under the constitution.

Posted by: Jazzman | September 16, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

It is sad we care more about animals and having a voice for them than an UNBORN CHILD…Not all having ABORTAIONS because of RAPE…Some are using abortation because they are selfish and unresponsible….GO do the percentage of women having aborations…
MEN do not even have a right to say that WANT THEIR CHILD…. The few real men we have left…
Abortation with out cause is SELFISH….
It is rare women BECOME WITH child from rrape…Not saying it do not happen but it is rare and those that are screaming aboratition are just living in a sex craze world with out taking and responisibilty…
Those that rae rape will have medical doc…BUT we are not carring about the stabilty of the person mind so we do not PRESS them to go and report it…
We have sought the easy way out…Abortion is not BIRTH CONTROL it is murder…

Posted by: Joann | September 16, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

Obama criticizes the fundamentals of our economic system, just like his pastor and wife were crictical of this country. Obama’s father was an economic advisor in Kenya . Maybe Obama wants a Kenyan type socialist system for America. McCain has a great AD of Obama bad mouthing our system.
Also on a day like this, Obama goes to California with his rich Holloywood friends to raise money when the bitter and religious people of the mid west are hurting.
A McCain Democrat….

Posted by: vs | September 16, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am

How can we call some one BIRTH evil? What have we created in tis sex crazed nation? The mind of the people are selfish and with out any morals.
Scream for the roghts of those animals while the fetus of a human is murdered.

Posted by: Joann | September 16, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

Glenn,
Your thoughtful reply is appreciated. When I said “republicans” I meant republican politicians, not you or other citizens of the US who are republicans. I do believe you care, and that other republicans care.
But I do think that republicans in the US ought to give some thought to how republican politicians trick you with their hypocrisy.
They say pro-life but are happy to pull the trigger on war without investigating the facts (such as WMD). Result, 4100 dead Americans.
They say they are for less govermnent,but starting $1 Trillion wars that expand the size of government
to proportions unimaginable in a democrat’s wildest dreams.
They say they are for fiscal conservancy, but have no concern for the growing national debt. From a leadship perspective, you see how Bush’s acceptance of financial illiquidity has tricked down to corporate debt and personal debt. Dem’s like us to pay as we go, which is the only “conservative” fiscal policy.
And so on. The republican politicians are masters of hypocrisy and too many of their followers buy in.

Posted by: clifton | September 16, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am

Glen:
Thank you for that expectional post. You are right on target. I had not even thought of the comparisons, hypocrisy, and double standards as you so clearly stated. We need more voices like yours EVERYWHERE!

Posted by: Gloria P. | September 16, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

Don’t worry — the Economy must be just fine.
Obama is attending a fundraiser tonight that “Babs” is hosting.
It is only $28,500 a plate.
With friends like that it is easy to buy an election and hire lawyers to prevent “free speech” and try and dig up dirt on your opponent.
Obama can even afford to go back to Iraq and try again to prevent the withdrawel of troops after the election.

Posted by: susie | September 16, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Yes, more should be covered regarding Obama’s record in Illinois, especially items such as these.
The media has nit-picked and torn through every inch of Sarah Palin’s record in a short two weeks, but so much about Obama’s records has not been reported upon.
Ever since this man announced his candidacy I have been waiting to hear more about his records and his past. The media seems content to think that Obama’s two egocentric memoirs are all we need to know about him.
Someome also needs to do a more in-depth investigation into the allegations that Obama tried to delay the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
If such a story had come out about Sarah Palin or John McCain, you can bet 500 reporters would already be on top of it……………………….

Posted by: Lee | September 16, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

You know joann, I was pro choice and I am a DEM. I voted for Hillary but now I am for McCain. The experience has been enlightening in that I am hearing views that I never listened to before because my mind was solidly DNC pro choice, blah blah blah.
I stopped and thought about and looked at these women fearmongering about Roe V. wade being overturned and I thought the way some of these women carry on you would think they thought EVERY woman gets an abortion at least once in her life. I have never had one and I don’t intend to. My aunt had 7 in her lifetime and has one child and that is only because the fetus survived.
You are right about the animal rights issue. Also isn’t it considered a double murder in some states when a murder is committed against a pregnant woman such as Lacey Peterson?
I am pro choice but I do believe that life begins at conception. I do not agree with this legislation that Obama has signed against saving the life of a fetus that survives.

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

As with every match-up between Palin and Obama, Obama is on the losing end of this argument. That’s why Palin is his worst nightmare – anything the liberals try to use against her is thrown back at Obama in spades.
I became pro-choice when abortion was limited to the first trimester. Today abortion has become a commonly accepted form of birth control that now extends into the third trimester. The Democrat’s Platform now reads that “abortion should be safe and legal” where it used to read “safe, legal, and rare”.
The Democrats have overplayed their hand on this one. They apparently believe the threat of losing their abortion rights will hold women captive to the Party – thus their easy dismissal of a female candidate who got 18 million votes.
Abortion is not the deciding issue in this election; I have no problem voting for Palin’s views over Obama’s.

Posted by: marylou | September 16, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

“The Democratic Party made a mess of things. It thought it could ignore the voters. It misread women. It adopted Chicago style campaign tactics in violation of its own stated principles. It installed an inexperienced, unscrupulous, yet politically naive, less than one full term Senator at its helm at the expense of one of the best candidates it’s had in 16 years. Voters have had to live with Republicans for eight straight years and were looking for a break. What we’re getting instead is another Republican party in the guise of a Democratic party. We can’t have that. ”
PUMA

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

Liberals are against the death penalty for murders and rapists, but want to murder children born alive.
There are long waiting lists for couples wanting to adopt babies — why would Obama want them to die?

Posted by: Annie | September 16, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Of course it’s too much to expect people on these posts to actually read Obama’s record on this vote. Just shoot off at the mouth. I’m not pro abortion but I’ll defend a woman right to it.You decry a woman aborting at any stage of pregnancy but gladly support the killing of our troops in an illegal war…all in the name of God. How many of you are beating down the doors at the clinic to tell those women that you’ll raise the baby for them.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 16, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

McCain = DISHONORABLE

Posted by: Howard Gallas | September 16, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

Anyone see where Obama tried to keep troops in Iraq longer??
The guy is unbelievable

Posted by: SAMANTHA | September 16, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

The hypocrisy of some of these posts is amazing…
Whether or not you agree with a war, we have a VOLUNTEER army. Anyone who enlists is aware that they might be called to service during war times, and might die as a result.
Babies who are born alive during these procedures never VOLUNTEERED for anything. They are completely innocent. How anyone could compare these two issues is beyond me.
Liberals oppose the death penalty, they oppose killing whales, baby seals, wolves, and the list goes on and on.
By all means, save all forms of animal life, but allow these innocent human beings to die.
What kind of a political platform is that?

Posted by: Lee | September 16, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

Oh yeah right, Republican pro-lifers. Fight for the lives of unborn embryos while killing thousands of children in a bogus war. So whose lives are sacred? Only Americans that look like them.

Posted by: stopthenonesense | September 16, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Well, here’s another ad that’s a lie on its face. Illinois has some of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country and has guaranteed emergency infant care. So, Jessen’s case was covered by existing laws and her statements to the contrary are simply false.
The bill that Jessen refers to did nothing to improve any of the standard of care in Illinois for failed abortions. Its only new legislation was an attempted end run around Roe v. Wade. That’s why Obama voted against it and that’s why the bill was killed in the Illinois Senate by a majority. Because it was a bad bill in direct violation of a Supreme Court ruling.

Posted by: Justin in Chicago | September 16, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Obama needs to let democratic 527s do their job or he will lose this election. The republicans are nasty people who will lie, cheat and steal to win. John McCain has no integrity and has stooped to the lowest possible levels in this campaign. McCain has lied constantly even when presented with the facts, cheated by keeping his vp pick away from interviewers therefore denying the American people a chance to know what the vp thinks and stolen Obama’s campaign messages.

Posted by: McCainSteals | September 16, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Lee:
People in the armed services volunteered to PROTECT this wonderful country from iminent threat. They didn’t VOLUNTEER to be thrown into a war the polical or financial gain of a select few. Many died without a say. How do you feel about them?

Posted by: Lila Kistini | September 16, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

This is the REAL truth:
Obama has said several times that he would have supported the federal version of the bill, which passed by unanimous consent and which President Bush signed into law Aug. 5, 2002, because it could not be used to challenge the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision granting a legal right to abortion.

Posted by: formerhillary | September 16, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Deb – your body your decision. But a baby is not your body – it is the body of another human being. Excuses for the expediant “disposal” of a problem – convince yourself it is not a living human being makes it ok to dispose of it.

Posted by: linda | September 16, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am

Samatha…do yo know that Alaska has the highest rate of sexual assault and child abuse in this country?
Plus, Sarah Palin denied more money for shelters and safe houses. Plus, she denied more funding for police to help cover domestic calls.
If she is so pro-family, why is she neglecting the “least of these”.

Posted by: militarymom | September 16, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

Maybe you should speak to those who are serving in our armed forces instead of asking me?
From what I hear, most of our soldiers are proud to be in uniform, and most feel the wars they are presently fighting ARE to protect our country from imminent threat, and to prevent any further 9/11 attacks from occurring.
While I’m positive there are exceptions to my statement above, there always are, but I do believe most of our troops are proud to be serving their country.

Posted by: Lee | September 16, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Barack Obama, and more recently his campaign operatives, have been misrepresenting his appalling record on the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act for five years.
National Right to Life has collected the major points of Obama disinformation and provides the documented rebuttal to each, in a White Paper issued on August 28, which is here:
For example, it is not true that Illinois already had a law that proteced all infants born alive during abortions. Existing Illinois law had no application whatever to many of the cases of infants who were being born alive during abortions.
Moreover, Obama did not oppose the bill because he thought it was unnecessary; he said he opposed it because he thought it would be constitutional to define these very premature but love-born aborted babies as legal persons. That was a position that put him on the extreme fringe of the pro-abortion advocates, which explains why he has so aggressively misrepresented the content of the legislation.
Sadly, some defenders of Obama are still citing certain Obama talking points that have been discredited by independent analysts such as Annenberg’s FactCheck and Stuart Taylor, a “pro-choice” legal analyst for National Journal.
Douglas Johnson
Legislative Director
National Right to Life Committee
Washington, D.C.

Posted by: Douglas Johnson | September 16, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Linda, yes I am black this week and next year. I have never been raped and I have never said that in any of my posts. My stories are consistent because they are true. I have said plenty of times that my mother was raped. The baby was adopted by of all people the family of the man who raped her. They did not condone what their son did and my mother already had one child so they offered to raise the son. He knows the circumstances of his existence. Has made peace with his father who died in the 90′s. My mother is also dead.

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Obama has tried to hide his radical votes on abortion even calling a rights-to-life group liars.
What a great guy…
No wonder he doesn’t talk about getting the evangelical vote anymore. He can kiss most of the Catholic votes good-by too.

Posted by: riley | September 16, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

Linda…what world are you from??? Have you had a child??? The baby is not YOUR body!!!
I cannot believe you “bleeding heart” pro life people are coming out of the woodwork again.
I saw two of my friends almost die in the 60′s from backroom abortions, when they could have had a safe alternative, OR they could have had birth control available to prevent it.
It IS our body…

Posted by: formerhillary | September 16, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

I can see why BO has been trying to hide this for years.
Hillary and even extreme liberal Ted Kennedy voted for the Born Alive Bill.
But not Obama. He is the one that said children are punishment. Creep.

Posted by: sally | September 16, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am

Riley…just because you don’t believe in everything that a person believes doesn’t mean he won’t be a good president.
God accepted and forgave everyone their sins. Are you any better?
Check Obama’s REAL record before you make a decision.

Posted by: formerhillary | September 16, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am

militarymom,
Really? Then Chicago must be the second highest and Obama my senator has done nothing to help that situation. Crime has gone up 18% in his district.
This past summer in Chicago
1. Chicago, IL. — A 9-year-old girl found dead by her father on the South Side died of multiple injuries from an assault, an autopsy conducted Tuesday found.
Relatives of Mya Lyons say police told them the girl was slashed in the neck and abdomen and had been sexually assaulted.
2. CHICAGO (AP) — An elderly Chicago landlord who police said was doused with a flammable liquid and set on fire by a former tenant has died.
Officials say 77-year-old Harlan Hayes died early Sunday at an area hospital. Hayes owned an apartment building on Chicago’s South Side.

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

John McCain forced to admit he is a lair thanks to the question of one honest republican who asked:
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — “Did Barack Obama really call Sarah Palin a pig as a John McCain ad leads people to believe?”
“No,” McCain admits Monday!
Thank you! He is a lair enough said… From McCain’s own mouth.

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

Sally..
What do you mean by this?
He is the one that said children are punishment.
Where was this said? Obama is hiding nothing. He tells you as he sees it.
He voted against it the 1st time because it included a clause to remove a womens right to abortion. He voted for the second and revised bill.
get you facts straight.

Posted by: mainegirl | September 16, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Barack Obama voted against the Illinois bill because it had added language that would have watered down the right of woman granted under Roe Vs Wade.
They don’t tell you that do they!
As I said as a woman I stand by him. My body My choice.
When one campaign is talking issues and one campaign is spreading smears and lies. I know who I will be voting for Barack Obama!
Truth matters!
Obama has said several times that he would have supported the federal version of the bill, which passed by unanimous consent and which President Bush signed into law Aug. 5, 2002, because it could not be used to challenge the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision granting a legal right to abortion.

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Tells a lot about BHO’s character as a human being.
I guess he’ll try again to deny this.
And his gullible supporters will believe him over the facts.

Posted by: harry | September 16, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

June 12, 2008 | 3:00 PM
A 22-year-old South Side man was charged with five counts of first-degree murder yesterday in connection with a home invasion robbery last month in which five people were shot to death.
Torolan Williams, 22, of the 11600 block of South Artesian Ave., was also charged with one count of home invasion and five counts of armed robbery, according to Chicago Police.
The victims, Lakesha Doss, 17, Whitney Flowers, 22, Reginald Walker, 23, Donovan Richardson, 24 and Anthony Scales, 26, were gathered at a residence in the 7600 block of South Rhodes on April 23, when the shootings occurred.
Williams was arrested Monday by Chicago Police acting on a tip from an acquaintance of Williams’. He is scheduled to appear in court tomorrow for a bond hearing.

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

linda,
Life begins at birth.. That’s why its called your birthday when people ask your age its from your birthday not conception!
Nothing more need to be said!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

Samantha…COME ON GIRLIE…Obama is only one man…he isn’t the police force.
He did get health inusurance for all uninsured kids in Illinois. That was a BIG one.
BTW…Palin is against gun control of any kind!!! Even assault weapons.
Plus, she voted down all education bills, because she believes in home schooling…EDUCATION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WAY TO PREVENT CRIME…

Posted by: militarymom | September 16, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Sally, I know exactly the quote you’re referring to. Obama supporters have selective hearing when The One speaks.

Posted by: marylou | September 16, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

(WGN-AM) – Bail has been set at $1 million for two suspects in the shooting death of a 10-year-old South Side girl, and two others are being held without bail.
Cook County Circuit Judge Raymond Myles set bond Thursday for 18-year-old Raymond Jones and 23-year-old Joseph Chico, both of Chicago. He ordered 20-year-old Luis Pena of Chicago and 25-year-old Antoine Lacy of Sauk Village be held without bail.
The four have been charged with first-degree murder and attempted first degree murder in the death of 10-year-old Nequiel Fowler, who was gunned down while playing outside with her blind 5-year-old sister one day before she was to start the 4th grade. Witnesses and police say Nequiel was shot Monday just after she finished tying her sister’s shoe.

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Barack Obama voted against the Illinois bill because it had added language that would have watered down the right of woman granted under Roe Vs Wade.
They don’t tell you that do they!
As I said as a woman I stand by him. My body My choice.
When one campaign is talking issues and one campaign is spreading smears and lies. I know who I will be voting for Barack Obama!
Truth matters!
Obama has said several times that he would have supported the federal version of the bill, which passed by unanimous consent and which President Bush signed into law Aug. 5, 2002, because it could not be used to challenge the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision granting a legal right to abortion.
Palin wants to ban abortion even if you are raped! Thats evil!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

It’s unnatural to have a baby then try to kill the baby with success. Stupid women who allow doctors to kill their babies after the babies are born. Who would support a law as this.

Posted by: Christie | September 16, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

Joann…yes abortion is TERRIBLY…but MALING a person, possibly in the early teens,carry a child,is also child abuse.
AGAIN…we need more birth control, and education and abortions would not be necessary…

Posted by: militarymom | September 16, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

There was no added amendment that threatened Roe V Wade. That’s the lie BO tells so he won’t look like such a creep.
If Roe v Wade was threatened why didn’t Hillary and Kennedy vote just like Obama?
Obama thinks he is God. Arrogance drives every decision he makes even if it kills innocent babies.

Posted by: riley | September 16, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

riley
Check out any fact check . the truth is freely available or just go on LYING IF THAT’S WHAT YOU WANT!
Barack Obama voted against the Illinois bill because it had added language that would have watered down the right of woman granted under Roe Vs Wade.
They don’t tell you that do they!
As I said as a woman I stand by him. My body My choice.
When one campaign is talking issues and one campaign is spreading smears and lies. I know who I will be voting for Barack Obama!
Truth matters!
Obama has said several times that he would have supported the federal version of the bill, which passed by unanimous consent and which President Bush signed into law Aug. 5, 2002, because it could not be used to challenge the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision granting a legal right to abortion.

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

What were you saying Deb????? We can’t hear you for the GUNSHOTS in Obama’s senate district.

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Speaking of pigs wearing lipstick, Streisand is singing tonight. Got $28,500, and you wonder why they call him an elitist.

Posted by: Bryan | September 16, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

marylou…you misquoted…
What he said is, no child should be punished if they make a mistake and get pregnant, but no being able to make a choice.
I don’t think that means he thinks children are a punishment.
You people are just unreal!!!
Why aren’t you talking about the REAL issues???? Gas, the economy, housing, and insurance?

Posted by: newvoter | September 16, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

The real Obama slipped out at Saddleback.
A baby’s rights are above his paygrade.
His flippant response shows how much value he put on a baby’s life.
Obama is not the great guy he pretends to be.

Posted by: harry | September 16, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

Just like the sex ed ad was a lie, so is this newest ad. The bill was flawed, that is wy he didn’t vote for it, just like he didn’t support the flawed Iraq war…where many innocents have been aborted..where is this outrage?
McCain would be better served telling how he would help struggling families w/children needing healthcare..it’s alway smoke and mirrors with the GOP.
Just like the economy how is that working for you?
Many iraqis have been killed by OUR actions.
All for big oil having access to iraqi oil. Well how is that working for them?

Posted by: Henri | September 16, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Bryan….well, then:
McCain does the same things only he goes to lobbyists, and alcohol people his wife knows…come on….

Posted by: mainegirl | September 16, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Obama is hiding behind the “watered down Roe v. Wade” nonsense as a defense against his reprehensible vote. Instead, he was concerned that calling in a second doctor to assist the infant would go against the wishes of the woman and her original doctor. That is to say, that if a baby by chance survived, it would either be killed or left to die outside the womb thus fulfilling the original intention of the woman and her doctor.
Also, the only thing sad and evil is the lengths to which some will go in promoting The One.

Posted by: marylou | September 16, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Deb you are anti abortion but what about the LIVING HUMAN BEINGS THAT ARE BEING SHOT, BEATEN AND MURDERED IN CHICAGO? WHAT ABOUT THEM DEB??? SENATOR OBAMA HAS DONE NOTHING BUT THROW FANCY FUNDRAISERS ON THE NORTH SIDE WHILE PEOPLE ARE BEING MURDERED ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
COME CANVAS WITH ME DEB. ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO.

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am

Stop sleeping with any guy that you can trick or think they love you and maybe the child can have a chance of life. Take responsibility. It’s not always the man’s fault. Not helping a baby after birth is murder. Obama supported this law. This law does not protect the weak and helpless who want to continue to live.

Posted by: Christie | September 16, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Samantha…so what is your point?
Every large city has crime! There are monsters living all around us. Does that mean we should blame that crime on the representative who lives there?
1.A 28-year-old Phoenix man died Monday after being involved in an early-morning fight.
Police said the fight occurred around 2 a.m. in the 3500 block of West Lawrence Road near Glendale Avenue.
2. SIERRA VISTA — City police reported today that at approximately 8 a.m., an 8–year-old girl was walking toward her bus stop in the vicinity of Paseo San Luis and Plaza Oro Loma when two men in a black four-door SUV approached her.
PLEASE

Posted by: militarymom | September 16, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Obama stood virtually alone in opposing the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. Even the other liberal Democrats saw that it was infanticide. Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), who supported the bill and who described himself as ”as pro-choice as anybody on Earth” — argued that under his understanding of Roe “if an abortion is performed, or a natural birth occurred, at any age, [even] three months, and the product of that was living outside the mother, and somebody came and shot him, I don’t think there’s any doubt that person would be prosecuted for murder.”
What part of that did Obama not understand? Obama’s out of the mainstream even among other liberal Democrats!

Posted by: marylou | September 16, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

samantha…ask Palin about why she wants to keep assault rifles in the hands of crimianls…..DAAaaa

Posted by: militarymom | September 16, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

marylou…have we have stated before, he opposed on the wording in th 1st version which was borderline taking away womens right to choose.
In the revised vesion he vote FOR!!!!!

Posted by: mainegirl | September 16, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

DEB…you are so right!!! She is an insult to women everywhere…
And just wait…if they get in she will be pushing her Penticostal agenda and banning books.
Hey, about about that Catholics? Her church thinks you guys are fools …

Posted by: newvoter | September 16, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

MILITARY MOM,
No really? every city has crime you don’t say? I know it does I have said so many times to my Senator barack Obama who has done nothing for Chicago. In fact his house was secured for him by criminal Rezko. Those murders are the tip of the iceberg my dear we had 17 murders in one weekend alone. What did Obama say about it? NOTHING.

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

According to Factcheck, “It is worth noting that Illinois law already provided that physicians must protect the life of a fetus when there is “a reasonable likelihood of sustained survival of the fetus outside the womb, with or without artificial support.”
Obama is not a baby killer! He has two daughters. He is a family man.

Posted by: cincyr | September 16, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

And as has been stated before, the wording is the same.

Posted by: marylou | September 16, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am

I watched this young woman on FOX news last night describing the process her mother took to try and take her life. I feel completely sick to my stomach. What gives us the right to decide to take the life of another human being? That right should be REVOKED and revoked immediately. I consider myself reluctantly pro-choice. I will never make the choice to get an abortion, but I do not agree that the government should overturn Roe vs. Wade without the votes of the American people. Those rights should be left to the individual states. Sarah Palin, while she personally does not believe in abortion under any circumstances, has made it clear that the states should decide. I agree with her, and so do the founding fathers who wrote the Constitution of the United States.
However, the rights granted to people to conduct late-term abortions should be revoked. That is no longer a woman’s choice. There are a multitude of resources out there for women – birth control products that are often free with state funding, the morning-after pill for rape victims and young women who have an “oops” moment and want to PREVENT a pregnancy from happening. Depending on your state, there is so much money going to support sex education. How about education on conception and the life of a child?

Posted by: Typical White Woman | September 16, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

Obama:
The Abortion President
The Anti-gun President
The Welfare President
His tax cuts to 95% is a lie since 40% don’t even pay taxes–he’s just giving handouts.

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 16, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Let’s see if Obama tries to get this ad removed.

Posted by: Christie | September 16, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

This is GROSS.
Obama is not fit to be a community gardener!
Hope, Change, Kill
Obama ’08

Posted by: militarymon | September 16, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am

You Obamabots will try to get Obama elected at all costs. But you are losing.

Posted by: Samantha | September 16, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

And we thought Rev Wright was bizarre!
Look at Obama!
This is beyond SICK!

Posted by: Deb | September 16, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

It’s unnatural to have a baby then try to kill the baby with success. People who allow doctors to kill their babies after the babies are born are not thinking of the life that lives and the life who wants to live. Who would support a law as this. The doctors are murdering a baby. God must be weeping for the little babies because of man’s doings by disposing their lives to a nearby trash can. This is sick. Someone should speak for the sweet little babies. Our society is breaking to even allow this type of murder while people are against capital punishment.

Posted by: Christie | September 16, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

What is so complicated about this issue? He voted against medical intervention when a baby is born alive after a botched abortion. ANd this law to protect these innocents was voted aye overwhelmingly to provide immediate medical attention, Yes, they are NOW American Citizens! He voted NO! Only a sick demented person would vote NO on something like this. And added language to this bill? just a good excuse to use when you voted no on a crucial issue and no God fearing person could understand why. READ the Bill !I Vote MCCain!

Posted by: caren | September 16, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

BKMC wrote: “…people have lost their houses and now their jobs under the watch of a republican government and a republican (spelling corrected) congress.”
Have you forgotten that the Democrats took control of both houses of Congress on January 3, 2007?

Posted by: James Danley | September 16, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

If you disagree with abortion, then don’t have abortion. People who agree with it- it’s their choice. Why impose your belief to others. Economy is a more important issue.

Posted by: Y | September 16, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Have you forgotten that the Democrats took control of both houses of Congress on January 3, 2007?
…………
Republican controlled if for 6 years.

Posted by: Y | September 16, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Deb said”Obama has said several times that he would have supported the federal version of the bill, which passed by unanimous consent and which President Bush signed into law Aug. 5,” Yes, Obama SAID he would have supported the federal version of the bill – but when the bill came up again with language identical to the federal version, guess what? He DID NOT support it. Check the record.

Posted by: Mary | September 16, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Clifton, you say:
“They [Republicans] say pro-life but are happy to pull the trigger on war without investigating the facts (such as WMD). Result, 4100 dead Americans.
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You are aware of the Democrats who examined the same evidence available to the rest of the world and voted to take out Saddam? And yes, those who gave their lives are heros and heroines, and as an American who enjoys freedom given to me by them and the hundreds of millions who also died for me in previous wars, I shall never denegrate their sacrifice by surrendering when we are on the verge of winning.
And Obama is so respectful of “life” and so concerned with our military, he tried to get the Iraqis to NOT negotiate American withdrawal until after January 20th?!!! And Obama wants to invade Pakistan. He wants to merely take Americans out of Iraq and send them to Afghanistan. He says that we can’t deal with Russia in Georgia because “we are spread too thin”—so I’ve got to assume he means by that that he wants ground troops in George and wants a war with Russia.
He advocates reducing “wasteful” defense spending on weapons systems by billions. Does he and you know that these very expensive weapons systems and the reason this war is so very expensive is because we spend those billions to SAVE American lives in battle and to minimize collateral damage/killing of civilians. Obama hasn’t named the weapons systems he plans on dumping. I’d like to hear some specifics. I do know he has promised to dismantle our missle defense system unilaterally. He won’t “tip his hand” on what he’ll do as regards Iran, but he’s already told the world that the US has taken the aces out of the deck and will also eliminate most of the kings and queens–so what we have left is the joker. He is so “nuanced” he tells the rape victim (Georgia) to lay back and enjoy…it took him 3 DAYS to discover Putin had invaded a sovereign country who was no threat to Russia or her citizens or to world peace.
I’ve listened to Obama and I’m sorry. I don’t think they teach history at his universities and expensive prep school. They sure don’t teach critical thinking skills.
We in the middle may be too, too bourgeois for those attending the Hollywood gala tonight, but we simple folk DO understand who’s telling the lies here…and it’s not McCain or Palin or the young woman who survived a late-term abortion.
4100 is a terrible price; but so was 3000 in 2001.
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You say:
They say they are for fiscal conservancy, but have no concern for the growing national debt. From a leadship perspective, you see how Bush’s acceptance of financial illiquidity has tricked down to corporate debt and personal debt. Dem’s like us to pay as we go, which is the only “conservative” fiscal policy.
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Bush tried to gett Congress to pass legislation dealing with the subprime problem. The Congress didn’t. McCain warned about Freddie and Fanny two years ago. And guess what? Freddie and Fanny was controlled by Democrats who had Democrat cronies in the Congress. Has anyone seen an ethics investigation of the Democrat Chairman of the Banking and Currency Committee who got sweetheart loans from the head of Countrywide? Has anyone done an investigation of Schumer starting a run on a California bank? You are aware that Obama is Wall Street’s candidate?
McCain wants a 9-11 type commission to find out the who-what-where’s. He’s called what Wall Street has been up to as greedy gamblers playing with our economy. He’s called repeatedly for reform of the splintered regulatory agencies which were designed in the 1930′s and never been reformed.
And while we’re at the blame game, you do know that the law which allowed this loan anything to anybody financial world was passed under Bill Clinton? And you might want to trace the genesis of this mess even one step further. Check out what one Congressman St. Germaine did to our financial system a couple of years before he got indicted.
Finally, about the out-of-control budget. Yes, the war is costly, but the long-term, uncontrolled debt is totally attributable to entitlement programs. Get out your calculator. We can pay the short-term war debt. The one we will never pay and which will continue to grow is the entitlement portion–and Obama wants to INCREASE uncontrollable entitlements.
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You say:
And so on. The republican politicians are masters of hypocrisy and too many of their followers buy in.
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I’d never support a person. I support a philosophy though, and I can assure you that I read extensively and follow politics closely.

Posted by: Amy | September 16, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Deb you said: “Good should make woman come back to Barack Obama!
PRO CHOICE!
MY BODY MY DECISION!

Well, if the baby that was pulled from your body happens to come out alive, then it’s another human being — no different than you — hence it’s no longer your body, but the child’s.

Posted by: Charles | September 16, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

yes, Jake Tapper, this particular anti-abortion group is awful. they want basic humanitarian medical care for babies that are born alive during late term abortions. horrible people.

Posted by: KayJL | September 16, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Zank don’t be obtuse. No one would let a live baby die. Furthermore, to the relifgious right if God is all knowing and all powerful and the creator of souls would he not keep a soul from entering a body if God already knows the decision a woman is about to take? What exactly are you protecting? If all of you pro lifers are that concerned about a baby’s life there are about 30,000 daily dying children who need your help.

Posted by: Prometheus | September 16, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

To Prometheus:
Under your reasoning, the answer to suffering children is to kill them. Sort of like the argument that leads to there is no God because bad things happen, which leads straight to Nietsche, which leads to any means to justify the end and ultimately it is the law of the jungle.
No wonder they bound you.

Posted by: Amy | September 16, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Prometheus, “nobody would let a live baby die?” That’s exactly what was happening in Illinois hospitals, which was the reason for the Infants Born Alive Act. Jill Stanek, a nurse at Christ Hospital, witnessed a baby who survived abortion left to die in a broom closet and refused treatment. She held him for 45 minutes until he died, and then started publicizing this horrible status quo and advocating for change.
As for Jesson ‘claiming’ have survived a failed abortion- how about a little journalism? Gianna Jesson has been speaking to pro-life issues since she was about 17 years old. She’s testified to her experience in many places (I believe Congress once)- in one such venue when she was a young girl speaking of her survival, pro-choice groups responded by shouting that she should have died, and it’s too bad she didn’t.
It’s also unfortunate that journalists have not investigated, but have let stand Obama’s dishonest claim that the state bill he voted against lacked the protection clause the similar federal legislation had. The truth is, Obama’s own committee ADDED that language to the bill in committee, and he voted against it anyway.

Posted by: Deputyheadmistress | September 16, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Y, actually the Democrats had control of the Senate during the first 2 years of President Bush’s first term.

Posted by: James Danley | September 16, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Are these the same nuts that were screaming to keep Terri Schiavo suffering forever?

Posted by: Lynne | September 16, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

I live in Illinois, and I remember this legislation. Existing legislation covers the event of a baby born alive in a late-term abortion. A baby is to be given medical help. The sponsors of this legislation purposely wrote it to try to overturn Roe v. Wade (to force it to be reviewed by the Illinois Supreme Court and hopefully the U.S. Supreme Court). I want to repeat, the issue was not that babies should not be medically treated if born alive. That issue was already covered by existing legislation (babies once they leave the womb are not fetuses and receive medical treatment).

Posted by: Angie | September 16, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Geebus, these people are stupid.
The legislation at issue was brand new and specially contrived by the anti-abortion movement. In other words, this woman – assuming her story is true – did not have any protection from the law Obama voted against, and yes, she survived anyway.
That was precisely Obama’s point. It’s already illegal to kill babies, period (although unfortunately, there’s no law to stop them from whining and lying about everything).

Posted by: Bill B. | September 16, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Obama did vote against the bill in Illinois he has said all he would have supported.
He has said in recent years that he would have supported a bill that included language explicitly stating that it wouldn’t weaken Roe.
But given that chance, Obama STILL voted against it.
I read a good summary article about it here:
http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=28732

Posted by: Debra | September 16, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

If you don’t know which side to believe in this debate, then check out FactCheck.org — a nonpartisan website that fact checks statements by Obama and McCain.

Posted by: Debra | September 16, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

“Under your reasoning, the answer to suffering children is to kill them. Sort of like the argument that leads to there is no God because bad things happen, which leads straight to Nietsche, which leads to any means to justify the end and ultimately it is the law of the jungle.
No wonder they bound you.”

Posted by: Prometheus | September 16, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

This is a personal decision and no ones but the person who has to make the choice for their body and their mind. God gives us free will, why can people let people live their own lives? Are the people better than God and his free will? Are you going to support that woman and her child? Are you going to feed them, cloth them and house them? Do you even know who they are? Before you try to make decisions for people you don’t know, have seen , will never know or will never see, you should worry about the corpes in your own closet! You hippocrite, take that plank out of your own eye before you worry about mine! People need to live their own lives and leave others to live theirs. Everyone has so much to say about the sin of abortion but what about fornication what gets one pregnant in the first place? Sex out of wedlock? Children born out of wedlock (ie Palen’s daughter)! Hello! People, mind your own business because I am sure you are not sin free, if you are cast the first stone and let God strike you down quick fast and in one big hurry!

Posted by: Past | September 16, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

The story by Jill Stanek has been proven a fraud. The Illinois Department of Public Health investigated her claims and found nothing to substantiate them

Posted by: Bill B. | September 16, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Past: If a young girl is pregnant she should have the baby and not abort it. They should not have had sex in the first place and that would not have happened. Don’t blame the baby. Jesus loves all the little children of the world and that includes the child that is about to be born.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 16, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

KayJL: No one should have a late term abortion because they should abort at all. Women like the sex but don’t like the pregnancy that can goes with it. They are the cause of their own destrucion. At the time I had my children, they were born in a catholic hospital and their belief was it was a choice between life and death of the baby or mother, the catholic hospital said the babies life was more important. Today no one cares one way or another.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 16, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

BKMC: People have lost their homes because of their own destruction. They did it to themselves. Don’t blame the president. You don’t buy what you can’t afford and young people today that buy condo’s and homes with no money down or 5 to 10% down cannot pay the mortgage later because circumstances arrive. The mortgage companies whould refuse the loan unless they have 35 to 40% down. There are numerous foreclosures and the mortgage houses and banks are suffering. The same way with food, you buy what you can afford if you don’t have a big income as long as your eating every day. Biting off more than you can chew only puts you into chapter 11.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 16, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

This is just ridiculous. I cannot believe what some people are willing to swallow.
Obama was in good company opposing the Ill Born Alive legislation. Including the Illinois Medical Association. How can that be? Could it be that it had nothing to do with saving preemies? If the anti extremists didn’t believe that it was an incremental encroachment upon Roe V Wade, they wouldn’t give a rat’s patooty about the legislation.
Giana Jesson? Please! She has that former part time nurse and raving anti-abortion extremist post a copy of her adoptive birth certificate and and an unsigned, unofficial piece of paper with ‘born during saline abortion’ typed on it and that’s supposed to be some kind of proof of Gianna’s story? Come on! She may have been born too soon but I wasn’t born yesterday.

Posted by: Roseanna | September 16, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

ALL THE DEMS AND REPUBLICANS ON THIS SITE SHOULD STOP THE HATE.
TALK ALL YOU WANT THAT IS WHAT OUR TROOPS HAVE FOUGHT FOR SINCE AMERICA WAS BORN. THEY FIGHT FOR US.
VOTE FOR AMERICA
THROW GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS OUT….. GOVERNMENT FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE…

Posted by: sheri | September 17, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

For anyone doubting Gianna Jessen’s story, you should know she just didn’t make up this claim since the Democratic convention. If you look, her name brings up over 42,000 hits on Google. She has been a well-known pro-life activist for years. Media outlets have covered her story. As her Wikipedia entry says, she has testified before Congress and Britain’s House of Commons, and after her testimony in regards to the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, she was invited to attend the signing of the bill, as the White House web site notes.

Posted by: Erika | September 19, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am

Why is it that 99% of “pro-lifers” support the death penalty, despite the fact that if flies in the face of the teaching of Christ? Why is it that 99% of “pro-lifers” supported the Iraq War and the continued deaths of over 100,000 Iraqis and over 4,100 Americans? Why is it that 99% of pro-lifers avidly, passionately support human torture as an American policy? Why is is that 99% of pro-lifers reject the life-giving possibilities of stem cell research? Why is it that 99% of pro-lifers, on policy after policy after policy, are pro-death?

Posted by: ElodieStClair | September 22, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am

Funny how the gentle and kind hearted Liberals (ha ha) can’t handle the truth. You mention them killing babies and they go crazy. They rationalize and accuse anyone who points out the plain truth. Obama has a clear record on this as well as wanting to raise taxes and infringe on the 2nd amendement. But this week he denied those also. Personal Giving and God or also on their short list but Obama will act like Jesus best fried for a few months.

Posted by: Wasilla | September 22, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Can anyone tell me why the women posting are literally ranting and raving pro and con whether or not to abort, whether or not an unsuccessfully aborted baby should be given medical treatment? In a country where EVERY CONCEIVABLE BIRTH CONTROL PRODUCT IN THE WORLD IS AVAILABLE (in many cases, free of charge) AND VASECTOMIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR MALES, why is this debate even necessary? IS IT CONCEIVABLE THAT MANY WOMEN ARE USING ABORTION AS A MEANS OF BIRTH CONTROL, AND IF SO, WHY? I suspect I won’t receive any answers, but one can hope, can’t one?

Posted by: Carol | September 22, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

The Born Alive infant Protection Act (BAIPA) law was necessary because, especially during late-term abortions, some of those babies slated for execution are instead born alive. In the past these abortion survivors have been callously thrown into trash cans, where they died.
When a bill almost identical to the one Barack fought in Illinois, the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, came to the floor of the U.S. Senate in 2001, the vote was 98 to 0 in favor. Barbara Boxer, the most pro-abortion member of the Senate before Barack came, spoke out on its behalf: “Of course, we believe everyone should deserve the protection of this bill. … Who could be more vulnerable than a newborn baby? So, of course, we agree with that. … We join with an ‘aye’ vote on this. I hope it will, in fact, be unanimous.”
Obama insisted that the only reason that he had voted against the state version of BAIPA was that bill lacked the “neutrality clause” of the federal bill. Unfortunately for Obama, this turned out not to be true. In fact, the official record shows that a “neutrality clause” had earlier been added to the bill at his insistence, after which he then turned around and voted against BAIPA anyway. His claim that BAIPA lacked a “neutrality clause” and that he had voted against it for that reason was, at best, a memory lapse, at worse, a complete fabrication.This has all been exhaustively documented by the National Right to Life Committee, and later verified by FactCheck.org. The full details are available here.
Interesting fact: Norma McCorvey, the “Jane Roe” of Roe v. Wade is now a Roman Catholic and pro-life, anti-abortion. For excerpts from her book, “Won By Love” and summary of her conversion story—

Posted by: Joanne | September 22, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

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