Biden: Difference Between Obama & McCain Is Faith in American People
EmailABC News’ Matthew Jaffe reports: “The decision I respectfully suggest you have to make is who is better equipped, who is better prepared to deal with the issues that are going to determine the shape of your life — is it John McCain and Sarah Palin?” Joe Biden asked Wednesday night at the College of Wooster in Ohio.
“No!” came the reply from the crowd of 4,500, so loud that Biden stopped to chuckle.
“Or is it Barack Obama and Joe Biden?” he said as the audience roared.
And so began an abbreviated, adapted stump speech from the Democratic vice presidential nominee, urging the collegiate crowd to imagine how different the country might look, depending on the next administration.
“What are the chances — is it more or less likely with a President McCain that we’re going to have a new cold war with Russia or maybe a hot war with Iran?" Biden asked.
But, on the other hand, he said, “Imagine a country that, once again, is the most respected country in all the world, imagine a country where we lead, where we lead by the power of our example and not by the example of our power.”
Biden recalled a story that former Sen. J. William Fulbright told him about John F. Kennedy sending former Secretary of State Dean Acheson to Paris to explain the danger of the Cuban missile crisis to French President Charles de Gaulle. As Acheson was about to produce reconaissance photos to prove his point, de Gaulle said there was no need — the word of the American president was good enough.
“I am deadly earnest when I ask this rhetorical question,” said Biden. “Is there a single, a single world leader who, if Condi Rice, who’s a good woman, if she sat across from that leader, explaining the matter of war and peace, that would raise his or her hand and say, ‘there’s no need, I know the president of the United States and I trust him?’
"The single most significant responsibility the next president of the United States has is to restore our standing in the world, because the rest of the world understands — as much as they may resent it — we are the only genuine catalyst for change. It’s not American chauvinism — there’s no other nation in the world that, on its own, can be the vehicle, can be the vehicle for the kind of change the world is yearning for. Ladies and gentlemen, the opportunity is immense, immense,” he said, his voice fading to almost a whisper.
“You know, I truly believe Barack Obama has the opportunity, the opportunity to be the bridge between what we can imagine and what we can achieve.
“The Obama-Biden administration would speak to our hopes, rather than what we’ve seen the last eight and ten years of speaking to our fears, because of a basic fundamental principle that’s gonna sound naïve coming from a guy who’s been there for seven presidents. I’m not naïve, I’m not new, and I hope I’m not stupid,” he continued. “Ladies and gentlemen, I can tell you the fundamental difference between us, the two, the four folks in this race: we genuinely, genuinely have faith in the American people — we have faith that they will be able to rise up and deal with anything they’re facing.
“And folks, this isn’t blind faith, this isn’t a faith based in, you know, a sense of American exceptionalism. It’s a faith, a faith based on the journey and the history of our country, it’s a faith based upon the generations that have gone before us. In every time of crisis, your generation, in every time of crisis, before us, when have we made great progress? All the great times of progress we have made in this country has been made in the face of a great problem — that’s the time, that’s the time America responds.”
The McCain campaign, however, imagined the future under an Obama-Biden administration a little bit differently.
“It would be hard to imagine putting a rookie in the White House with no record of reform when Americans need change," said McCain spokesman Ben Porritt.
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Biden makes a good point. It is and has been clear that McCain intends to be very hostile to Iran and has already started the new cold war with Russia.
Problem is, these are the wrong wars for us. Today, Al Qaeda attacks our embassy in Yemen – they are not in Iran or Russia. Time to fight the real battle rather than another distraction.
Posted by: MIguy | September 17, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Biden on Tuesday said an Obama-Biden administration would “increase regulatory oversight of the very people John [McCain] has refused to regulate.”
Until recently, McCain consistently described himself as an opponent of most government regulation. In 1995, he proposed an across-the-board moratorium on all federal regulations, but that measure failed in Congress. Even the republicans were smart enough then not to do what John ( Give ‘em what they want) McCain wanted to do we would have had this happen before this if John ( Maverick) Mccain had his way now thats what I call Judgement, bad Judgement
Posted by: richardcranium1 | September 17, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Biden has fallen into the BHO way of doing business. Say anything to get elected.Wow to those who believe all of this bull.
Posted by: William | September 17, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Biden has fallen into the BHO way of doing business. Say anything to get elected.Wow to those who believe all of this bull.
Posted by: William | September 17, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Biden is OK – it’s that other guy -
obama – he is a FRAUD!!!!
Obama once again responded with “Present” on our current crisis – he will wait for his campaign to provide him with the “Politically Correct” answer. He has zero judgment to lead our country.
McCain/Palin -much better choice.
Posted by: Molly | September 17, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
No, the difference between McCain and Obama is Obama’s friends and mentors including the racist,America hating Jeremish Wright and Michael Pflager, the Marxist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, and Barack’s real estate partner, the jailed Tony Rezko.
Posted by: Ron | September 17, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Obama has a good vision and leadership that have been proved throughout his campaign. America needs a new leader to get out of its economic and political crises.
Obama/Biden 08.
Posted by: Quy Tran | September 17, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Defensive posts by people trying to change the subject. Please go to another more relevant blog, or dispute Biden’s comments.
Posted by: MIguy | September 17, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Thank you for publishing Joe Biden’s speech. I love that he is doing this type of uplifting speech, too. Good for you, Joe. People are beginning to listen.
I’ve seen a lot of politicians, but what Senator Obama and Biden are doing to bring people together is astounding. Not since Robert Kennedy. No matter what the negative and contempuous posts here are said about Obama, the truth is these people that are voting come from many walks of life and many haven’t voted at all or for a long time. If Obama and Biden win the presidency it is as much about them as it is about all of these people working so hard and believing for a little more than having their lives and their children’s lives erode around them. I’m amazed at the community activism.
The McCain/Palin ticket has shown so much hate and contempt. These emotions devide people. No matter what, even if Mr. McCain wins, half the voting public will have voted for Obama and Biden. We need to keep this in mind and what it means.
Posted by: lucy2008 | September 17, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
John McCain, who voted with Bush 90 percent of the time, now calls for reform. That just doesn’t make sense. Does that mean John McCain thinks what he did by supporting Bush was wrong, and now wants to throw the rascals (including himself who supported Bush 90 percent of the time) out? It’s not only McCain’s logic that doesn’t make sense, John McCain doesn’t make sense. Either John McCain has problems with telling the truth, or he’s beginning to experience early onset Alzheimer’s, or both.
Posted by: JayMagoo | September 17, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
“Time to fight the real battle rather than another distraction.”
And had it been up to Barack Obama, we would’ve been fighting that real battle for a year now. If Barack Obama had his way, we’d have the extra troops in equipment necessary in Afghanistan to stop the new onslaught of Taliban activity. We would’ve been able to stop them in the Afghan/Pakistan mountains before they had a chance to regroup there in those safe havens.
When we start to hear about the rise in troop deaths in Afghanistan care of a more powerful Taliban, when we start to hear about dead soldiers and Marines who don’t have enough help to stave off the terrorists, we can thank John McCain and George W. Bush who lacked the judgment to see this coming. We can thank John McCain and George W. Bush who would rather waste time, money, resources and blood in Iraq where we never should’ve gone in the first place.
Posted by: Mike H. | September 17, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Biden, you are sounding like an idiot speaking for this OBAMA guy.
You know that Obama is not READY to be the President of the U.S. … his resume is despicable …
So, please dont jeopardize your own reputation by speaking highly of someone you know is more about personal ambition and personal gain than change for country or anyone else.
Posted by: QuiteNowBiden | September 17, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Interesting…so the U.S. should go into a Yemen to get terrorists…but we shouldn’t fight them in Iraq since they’re there, oh, and don’t antagonize the peaceful Putin political machine. Amazing that Iraq under a ruthless dictator who murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people and threatened millions more with WMD was a poor ‘sovereign nation’ as the Dems’ talking points always said. So I guess Yemen isn’t a sovereign nation?
We are to fight battles, but just not the ones President Bush picks. Hmmm.
As for Biden, I see he’s using the same tired Dem argument about the Bush Administration hyping irrational fears in order to take over America-I suppose Bush will refuse to leave the White House next January because he is now the Fuhrer?
How about Obama telling us we’ll be selling apples and pencils on street corners in a few months-maybe economic setbacks don’t count as fear-mongering.
I guess the disaster of a more stable Iraq left the Obama campaign panicking until something else bad happened to the U.S.?
All in all that speech was weak and boring.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | September 17, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Joe Biden strikes fear in the heart of Republicans. You hoped he’d be this magical gaffe machine that created fake cable news controversies every week. Instead he’s turned out to be a tremendous asset, the best surrogate Obama could ask for.
While Sarah Palin got the excitement and headlines (and that star now begins to fade), Give ‘Em Hell Joe was out on the stump in battleground states helping to lay the economic seeds now beginning to sprout. He is doing more for Obama in the eyes of the American public than Sarah Palin, who 75% of the country thinks was a pure political VP choice according to the latest CBS/NYT poll. That’s opposed to 57% who say Obama made the wise choice of an executive officer by selecting Joe Biden.
I wouldn’t go talking about personal gain and political ambition. You support a man who chose Sarah Palin as the person to govern this nation should he be rendered incapable of fulfilling his duties as president.
Posted by: Mike H. | September 17, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Someone at Political Radar loves Joe Biden…he has 6 headlines. You guys are generous, as the press don’t even want to follow him and I hear his plane is always empty. Biden is grateful, I’m sure.
Posted by: Emma | September 17, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Biden, the American people better be smart enough to distinguish between TALKERS like Obama and DOERS like Palin and MCCain.
If America votes Obama for their president, America will be the laughing stock of the ENTIRE WORLD for no other country in the world will ever vote someone like Obama with such a THIN RESUME and such a questionable past with associations with Rev. Wright for 20 years, into their highest office – the Presidency …
And to have the country, at that point, under the control of the unknown Obama and the DO-NOTHING CONGRESS led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid …
I have FAITH IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, that when election day comes around, ENOUGH AMERICANS WITH COMMON SENSE WILL HAVE THE RIGHT JUDGEMENT TO PUT MCCAIN/PALIN in the White House.
THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FAITH IN, MR. BIDEN.
I HAVE FAITH THAT AMERICANS WILL KNOW TO PUT COUNTRY FIRST … WHEN THERE IS DOUBT, ALWAYS VOTE IN THE SIDE OF CAUTION … MCCAIN WE KNOW. PALIN HAS A RECORD OF CHANGE IN ALASKA … AND HAS GOVERNED A STATE WITH AN APPROVAL RATING OF 80%.
I BELIEVE THAT WHEN SHE BECOMES VP OF THE U.S, SHE WILL ALSO HAVE A HIGH APPROVAL RATING, this just based on her past records ..
OBAMA, ON THE OTHER HAND, HAS A RECORD OF NON-REFORM AND NON-CHANGE … THIS OBAMA GUY TALKS CHANGE BUT HAS PRODUCED NO CHANGE HIS ENTIRE POLITICAL LIFE…
PERSONAL AMBITION, PERSONAL GAIN IS ALL OBAMA IS ABOUT AND I HAVE FAITH THAT AMERICA CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AMBITION AND SERVICE.
Posted by: FAITHINAMERICA | September 17, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
QuiteeNowBiden-maybe you should take 2 aspirins and go to bed-you are seeming very confused.
Barack Obama’s resume-THE REAL ONE-is the best resume we have ever had in a presidential canidate!
You must be confusing McCain’s resume of past work.
Posted by: RosettaRealist | September 18, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Wow….”words, just words”….and too many of them. Biden and Bozo, blah, blah , blah, blah, blah,….McCain….to the point, clear and decisive….just like at the Faith forum at Saddleback and just like upcoming debates. I know they call BO “nuanced”, I call it full of hot air. I like Biden, but he’s a gaffe master and not at the top of the ticket. Biden love McCain too, they go way back and as he once said he’d be proud to run with McCain….and Obama isn’t ready to be Prez. I wish McCain would start running those ads again, after BO announced the Biden pick…they always make me chuckle.
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
lucy2008…The McCain/Palin ticket is the only one with energy and optomisim, what are you talking about?
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
PALIN … AND HAS GOVERNED A STATE WITH AN APPROVAL RATING OF 80%.
Posted by: FAITHINAMERICA
****************************************** George Bush once Governed an entire country with an approval rating of 92%. We stood by him and gave him the benefit of the doubt.
We said if we are going to make our country strong, we must stand together. George W. Bush took us all for a bunch of fools and suckers. Now we know who he is and he has an approval rating of 27%.
Posted by: Truth Matters | September 18, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
I’m laughing at the farcical post by G.O.P. The battle is with Al-Qaeda – they are the ones who attacked us. And yes, we should go into every hole and cave where these vermin live.
There are endless despots, tyrants, and enemies around the world and you and Bush/Cheney and company would have the U.S. become the world’s policeman. Sorry, no thanks. Saddam’s Iraq was no threat to us – and our invasion of Iraq has led to societal collapse and tens of thousands of civilian deaths, over 4000 of our soldiers dead and over 24,000 wounded.
President Bush picked a stupid battle in Iraq. Maybe if he did what he said after 9/11, we wouldn’t have had our embassy attacked today.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Too bad..John Kerry.. hello…God Bless George Bush espically since there’s so much hate (yes, hate) directed at him. Said No to Algore.. Said No to Kerry.. and saying Hell-No to Barry O!
Posted by: Christie | September 18, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
RE:
Maybe if he did what he said after 9/11, we wouldn’t have had our embassy attacked today.
Kool-aid drinkers are so smart..Not. They love their side..Joe Biden worked along with Germany, France and other countries behind the scenes to keep our president from sending troops in much sooner. Maybe, if Slick Willy had kept his pants up, he may would had read the Intel reports and took it seriously.
Posted by: Christie | September 18, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Attack the messenger, the message stays true. Bush promised Bin Laden and didn’t get him. Yes, Clinton was too busy with his pants down and the mess started with him but that doesn’t change Bush’s failing.
And yes, there is hate directed at the deliberate incompetence of Bush/Cheney. A trained squirrel could have more accomplishments than the morass they have delivered. The Democrats are spineless as well, but maybe it’s time to give the jellyfish their chance.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
“George Bush once Governed an entire country with an approval rating of 92%. We stood by him and gave him the benefit of the doubt.”
Sorry but Bush has nothing to do with Palin.
Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
“The Democrats are spineless as well, but maybe it’s time to give the jellyfish their chance.”
We don’t have to give them anything. They have to earn it.
Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
I think Biden is a bit confused.
Obama is using American People.
Obama’s only faith in American People is that they are dump enough to vote for him, and believe anything he says.
McCain believes in the American People and knows they are Strong and Smart and not playing the head games on them his oppenent does.
Posted by: seah | September 18, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Oh, and by the way, I voted against Clinton’s sidekick Gore and lackey Lieberman in 2000. You probably did too. So now that idiot Lieberman is actually supporting McCain, was almost his running mate, and will be in his cabinet. No way – I’m voting against the same crap I voted against 8 years ago. You, on the other hand, better check to see how consistent you are…
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Who knows where McCain stands on anything? He doesn’t even know anymore. He’s so bad at this misinformation and doublespeak thing that he needs to go take a remedial George Orwell class.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Even Liberman knows his party is overrun by nutty radical leftists. You just crashed and burned.
Posted by: Christie | September 18, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Hahaha – the biggest joke of all is a Republican who agrees with Lieberman on anything. Thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Yeah and the hippy party, errrrrr socialist party, errrrrrrrrr democratic party is full of honesty, straight talk and integrity…If you belive that, then you desrve to get the hippy party. I for one am an independant and haven’y made upo my mind, but these blogs are doing a lot to point me to McCain.
Posted by: Scott | September 18, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
If you make up you mind from a blog, you’re not an independent, you’re an idiot.
And, as an independent, I’ll tell you that you’re gonna have to fake it better if you want people to believe you on here.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
Scott….go with McCain…Trump publicly endorsed him tonight on Larry King (I knew he was a McCain supporter), and one of Hillary’s big supporters/fundraisers Lynn Forester jumped to McCain today too. We’ll be seeing more and more of that as the weeks unfold.
McCAIN/PALIN ALL THE WAY!
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
OMG! Blogs and celebrities are so smart, I think I’ll stop thinking for myself. You guys are soooo cooool…
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
But, back to reality. Biden’s points are valid. McCain is clearly bellicose and, as an original and current backer of the preemptive war in Iraq, is going to get us in more wars not less. To think otherwise is folly.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
Hey Mgay,
I am an independant who voted democratic 3 times, republican 3 times and 1 time libertarian.
As I stated these blogs do in fact help to move the needle one way or another for all of those looking at them. Either it entrenches you or it may cause you to get off the fence.
Your comment about it making up my mind shows your ignorance and insults all those here. My statement is clear, you just assumed something that wasn’t there. It helps to understand what your reading before you comment.
As for your jackass comment relative to me or anyone being an idiot…your revealing your IQ level which frightens me because it is obviously below 100 and you can vote.
Posted by: scott | September 18, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Look, I’m not here to insult you, but seriously blogs are not places to make up one’s mind. If you actually read all of my posts, you would see that my valid points were returned with old and tasteless Jim Jones ‘Kool-Aid’ references.
Your choice of insult shows a lot about you too…
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
MIguy,
I was leaning towards the Obama camp until earlier this week. The Dems have showing to be a bit to radical for me which has show up in a number of ways and forums. Blogs, TV (ex. the view), the Hollywood thing, etc…have indeed influenced me to get off the fence.
Obama is too inexperienced and the party is too 60′s. Those influencial things, combined with some balanced reading on my part, moved me to the GOP. Other will follow.
Scott is right.
Posted by: James | September 18, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Welcome aboard James!!!
Posted by: JKJ | September 18, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
“Yeah and the hippy party, errrrrr socialist party, errrrrrrrrr democratic party is full of honesty, straight talk and integrity…If you belive that, then you desrve to get the hippy party. I for one am an independant and haven’y made upo my mind, but these blogs are doing a lot to point me to McCain.”
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So there’s your post again. You start with an insult, then decry them? Then try to insult me, and then blame me for it? Nope, I think you are a Republican.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
James: good for you – sounds like you’ve done your homework and made a choice. but, honestly all the proclamations of the anonymous on here about who they will vote for rings hollow and is pointless. and yes, it works both ways, I could care less about the folks who scream they will vote for Obama. it’s just a blog, it shouldn’t be taken so seriously.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
MIguy,
Time for you to put the beers down, your not making sence.
Posted by: XOXO | September 18, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Again, insulting me doesn’t change the original point of this blog. So scroll back up to the top and re-read it. McCain is more likely to get us in a war than Obama. Instead of denying it, which is another insult to our intelligence, just accept it and defend why you think it is a good idea.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
What is serious is what is at stake. “lets hope we don’t get fooled again”.
We should be suspicious of the whole thing. Both parties screwed up the economy. Both parties have their fingerprints on the “cash” that is now missing. You can be sure of that. BOTH PARTIES.
It will be experience that will get us out of this not inexperience.
Posted by: James | September 18, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
McCain get us into a war. We are at war. War against radical Islam. haven’t you read the papers?
Posted by: XOXO | September 18, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
XOXO – Your not going to get anywhere with MIguy. IQ <100 remember?
Posted by: scott | September 18, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Mack said:
“George Bush once Governed an entire country with an approval rating of 92%. We stood by him and gave him the benefit of the doubt.”
Sorry but Bush has nothing to do with Palin.
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The point to his post was that pointing out Palin’s 80% approval rating means nothing. Bush once had one of the highest approval ratings for a president, and he is now one of the lowest. Like Bush, Palin is new to the office and has appeared to do something major. However, with troopergate and other things coming out, I am sure that number is going down…much like Bush’s.
Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
James: With McCain’s drift to the left, and Obama’s drift to the right, there is no substantial difference between the two parties – agreed. McCain has no solution for the economy he doesn’t understand and I do not have confidence in his advisors. Scroll up and you’ll see my reference to the Democrats as spineless (e.g. jellyfish). I’m not sure Obama’s camp will be successful, but I do know that the Dems will hold Congress this year and at least that give the Dems a chance to show if they can move the country. If McCain wins, then two more years of stagnation and partisan politics and then two more after that if the Dems hold Congress in 2010.
So, yes, it’s a gamble but not really because as you said, they’re the same anyway.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
War into Iran and cold war with Russia. I assumed you would have read my post at the entry of this blog. But it’s so much easier to insult – just ask scott, who is crying about it, but doesn’t add anything useful intellectually. Kinda like Palin.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
People supporting McCain should travel outside of the country and try making their arguments on why McCain could unite the world in his fight of good against evil. They might be surprised that McCain is viewed as the enemy.
Posted by: doug | September 18, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
Nope, not me. That is not a risk I am willing to take for my country or children. Our “do nothing congress” has a lower rating than Bush, so combine that with an inexperienced president is a bad comprimise. At least McCain has experience.
Posted by: James | September 18, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
So what do you propose that McCain’s experience will accomplish? Which piece of proposed legislation is he going to get through? What are his grand ideas from his experience in the midst of financial crisis? A commission… No thanks.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Miguy…they are not the same. Obama is ego first….McCain really is country first.
McCain has a record of standing up to his party….Obama not.
McCain will appoint DEMS to his cabinet too, and wants to stop this party bickering…doesn’t care who gets credit…wants to really unify.
What has BO stood up to? Or stood for.
This country is too valuable to just turn it over to a sock puppet with a 143 days in the Senate as a resume. And let’s not even get into judgement. Millions like me have done their homework and Rezko, Ayers, Pfleger, and Wright were deal breakers.
Tell me who you are with and I’ll show you who you are.
McCain/Palin
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
Scott doesn’t add anything useful intelectually? Hmmmm.
Scott, James and XOXO are the same guy knuckle head. You agreed with XOXO and James but not Scott? Stances were basically the same, so it appears that your emotion trapped you/ got the best of you.
Posted by: Scott | September 18, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Mack,
Your old fool McBush and his side kick, “the moose with lipstick” Palin’s 15 minutes are over or should I say their two weeks are over!!!
Hope you Republican losers had fun bashing us for the past couple of weeks, but the fun is over now fools!!!
“The fundamentals of the economy are strong!” Oops, just ignore the 900 point drop in the market and all those big banks failing behind the curtain!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!
Bye, bye McSenile and your moose with lipstick!!
Obama/Biden ’08!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 18, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
Doug…you might be surprised that Obama is viewed as hanging with the enemy. Which side of the fence is he on. I’ll tell you what…every country in the world envies us and we have immigrants banging down the doors to get in…..OTHER COUNTRIES WOULD LOVE US TO HAVE A SOCK PUPPET FOR A PREZ, A PU-S-SY.
McCain is the man.
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Nope, not me. That is not a risk I am willing to take for my country or children. Our “do nothing congress” has a lower rating than Bush, so combine that with an inexperienced president is a bad comprimise. At least McCain has experience.
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Yup at doing nothing
Posted by: Thinking | September 18, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Seriously, Emma, I think you’re fooling yourself if you think either of these guys is anything but a politician that does whatever is politically expedient to get elected.
I voted for McCain in 2000 and I continue to believe he is a genuinely decent man. But he’s a man whose time and chance have past. And he’s become the thing he hates – you can now tell when he lies: he tilts his chin up, speaks in 1-2 sentences and keeps his teeth together (kinda like Cheney). He’s just not good at it and that’s why I still think that he’s a good person.
And I do not care for many of McCain’s current associates. So whoever wins, I know there will be scandals and soforth, but it’s time for something different and McCain can’t offer it and it drives him crazy because he used to be the ‘change’ guy.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Scott: Multiple personality disorder and intellectual dishonesty convinces no one of anything. Your persona ‘scott’ still contributes nothing. Your persona ‘xoxo’ was similar. Your persona ‘James’ made the most sense – I would stick to that one.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Emma,
Give it up! Wright, Rezko, Ayers? Ha, ha, ha!! That is old news there “sweetie!”
Let’s talk about McBush the king of DEREGULATION or should I say REGULATION.
Help me out here sweetie, which one is he??
“The fundamentals of the economy are strong!” or “we are in a crisis” which one is it???
McHoover is TOAST!! Maybe he can invent something else like the Blackberry!!
And his “moose with lipstick” beauty queens isn’t going to save him now either, as her 15 minutes are over!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!
Obama/Biden ’08!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 18, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Nope, not me. That is not a risk I am willing to take for my country or children. Our “do nothing congress” has a lower rating than Bush, so combine that with an inexperienced president is a bad comprimise. At least McCain has experience.
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Yup at doing nothing
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If you call serving your country in Vietnam and 26 more years in public service nothing, then I guess you got me. I suppose that can be considered an insult to all those “do nothings in our military, past and present. A bit offensive but you are entitled to your opinion.
Bob – Military Vet (Oh and thanks for your support)
Posted by: Rob | September 18, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Oh, and by the way, your antics prove my point about the stupidity of making up your mind from blogs.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Lord CNN is sniffing around Alaska and an ice rink/land deal, titles, fighting Wasilla for land….this is so small peanuts. It’s brought in 3 million dollars for retailers…..and they still keep sifting through Gov. Palin’s business, but failed to look at Obama’s until AFTER THE 11 PRIMARY WINS IN FEB. It is unbelievable to me how so much of Obama’s lies go unexamined.
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
MIguy,
Just goes to show you that you will believe anything you read. I, James and XOXO are not the same person.
Posted by: Scott | September 18, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Knock it off!
Posted by: XOXO | September 18, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
ditto
Posted by: James | September 18, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
You’re about 12, right? Why not go to sleep, the grownups are talking.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
MAYBE McCAIN CAN GET GENERAL PETRAEUS TO GET A SURGE GOING HERE, SINCE HE IS FINISHED IN IRAQ NOW!!!!
CBS News/NY Times 09/12 – 09/16
McCain 44%
Obama 49% Obama +5
Hope you Republican idiots had fun for two weeks!!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 18, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Hey Davis….50% of Americans vote on emotion and they don’t “feel” all that good about Obama’s judgement in friends and cohorts. It matters….don’t kid yourself…..it matters. Americans of a certain age want a Prez. who truly puts this country first and who has the characater and judgement to earn the keys to the WH.
Neither of these guys have the answer to what’s going on with stock market and banks, because it changes everyday, but raising taxes and government hand outs/spending is not the way to go….Obama’s pony for everybody.
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
Emma,
CNN is just showing the WHOLE COUNTRY how incompetent she is that is all….
Since she is such a REFORMER, we all just want to know how she does it!
Now we ALL can see all of Palin’s lies and BS, in up to the minute living color!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!
The Republicans are TOAST!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 18, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
Emma: You would have a chance at convincing others if you didn’t distort the facts so obviously. Again, typically Republicans are much better at this…
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Emma,
Don’t worry, we still have 7 more weeks of McCain and Palin LIES and incompetence to keep piling up!!
By then everyone will feel real good about the Obama / Biden ticket – just watch sweetie!!!!
Here is laughing AT you Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 18, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Davis…out of the three candidates she is the only one with Executive power, to sign checks, make the big decisions that effect thousands of people, in charge of Troops…the other three show up in the Senate and argue and vote and waste alot of time.
Gov. Palin deals with the business of being a “mini Prez” everday.
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Why do Obama supporters continue the derogatory comments…it seals the deal even more for McCain/Palin…and let me guess your skin color.
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
What have we come to when “signing checks” is a qualification to be President. Crap…
Posted by: 1percenter | September 18, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
CNN report the market lost $700 BILLION TODAY, Major banks are failing, and we could be headed for another “GREAT DEPRESSION!!”
So what does McHOOVER propose?? A commission to study it??????????????
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!
He better go invent another Blackberry!!
ELECT REAL LEADERS!! OBAMA/BIDEN ’08!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 18, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
I love the crying about insults, which are followed by insults, then blaming the first person for making you insult them.
Kinda like McCain, who is only running a negative campaign because Obama didn’t agree to run the campaign on McCain’s terms.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
By the way, I feel it my civic duty to remind people that the original point of this blog is McCain’s warmongering spirit.
All those who think McCain is more likely to get us in a war with Iran than Obama, please raise your hands.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
Why do Obama supporters continue the derogatory comments…it seals the deal even more for McCain/Palin…and let me guess your skin color.
Posted by: Emma | Sep 18, 2008 2:02:14 AM
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Why? Because you Republicans are idiots, thats why! Seal the deal for McHOOVER and McPalin??
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!
Keep dreaming “SWEETIE!” If you believe that, I have a bridge I want to sell you in Alaska!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 18, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
MIguy,
Both my and my wife’s hands are up!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 18, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Thanks – my sleeping kids somehow knew to put their hands up too.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
That’s right MIguy….your agent of Change isn’t running nasty ads calling McCain vile and hurling insults. The more he does this the more insecure he looks. I hope he keeps it up…he looks weaker and weaker. But you and Davis, who likes to yell his posts!!!!!!
should get together and gush over your has been candidate. Everyone knows he’s a fraud and Hillary was the true candidate, but the DNC handed the equal opportunity guy the nom….as Trump said tonight….Hillary was stronger and he limped to the finish line…the last couple of months AFTER we heard about Wright, Ayers, Rezko, angry Michelle, etc. You two convince yourselves it doesn’t matter. He will only win with ignorant youth (everyone of them has to turn out) and voter fraud which you can count on with Obama campaing.
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
You two guys have fun.
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Gee, where did all the Rednecks and Republicans (same thing) go??
They sure had fun bashing us for two weeks now didn’t they…
Looks like the next SEVEN weeks are going to be our victory lap MIguy!!!
Good to see you out again as usual.
Obama/Biden ’08!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 18, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Double crap – she’s a Hillary crazy. That explains much.
Posted by: 1percenter | September 18, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Emma: I forgot that Hillary ran the cleanest campaign ever. I, for one, as I have said above do not expect more out of politicians than what I am seeing. So spare me the high and mighty rhetoric. I have stated my reasons above and, as much as you try to distract from the original point of the blog, you cannot. In fact, your silence tells me that you really can’t argue that McCain isn’t the more bellicose of the two candidates.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Adios, time to make the donuts.
Posted by: MIguy | September 18, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
Palin deals with LOCAL affairs. Sure, that’s some executive experience but Obama and Biden maul her on foreign policy. Obama may not have been in the US Senate for as long as McCain, but he surely does know all the nuances of foreign policy.
Palin, however, gave primarily superficial answers on her Gibson interview that only demonstrated her lack of understanding of foreign policy. She didn’t even recognise the word “Bush Doctrine” to think it was “his worldview” and did not even assume it to be some sort of policy. Okay, even without the Bush Doctrine, she said she believed (twice) that Russia started the Ossetian conflict when everyone and all the papers and sources point to Georgia.
And remember as the President of the United States of America, you have a great role to play in just about every even taking place all over the world.
Now, now, but isn’t she NOT at the top of the ticket? The issue is, as opposed to the Democrats, she has a significantly higher chance of having to take over. And Obama’s VP certainly has experience-he also can give Obama advice. If McCain placed his country first, he would have picked someone more well-versed in foreign policy and the Constitution-knowing that he may not finish his term.
Posted by: Grey Matter | September 18, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
I like the speech, Biden is doing a good job in making Obama a credible foreign policy source.
P.S. I hope to see more Biden/Obama headlines, because the week that McCain was in the news all the time the “lipstick on a pig” “controversy” was born; instead of the media covering the real issues, like the US making raids in Pakistan (something Obama has been arguing from the beginning)…
Posted by: Solid | September 18, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am
Huh? Bidens party has helped add relentless regulations into our society, claims to help the little guy with “affordable housing” via schemes through Mae and Mac, thinks that having 40 percent of Americans not paying tax is fair, therefore no contribution with the rest of us, thinks that everyone deserves the same regardless of effort, that more is needed for education but has no answers to extreme drop out rates, (anyone wonder why unemployment is not higher)a party that slams corporate greed but has 2 mae and mac executives who ran those institutions into the ground now advisers on their campaign staffs.
Great faith Joe.
Posted by: david | September 18, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am
McCain = 4 more years of Bush!!!!!
Republicans cannot win the election as McCain doesn’t qualify to be president>>
Born in Panama at a Military Base….
According to a State Department manual, U.S. military installations abroad cannot be considered “part of the United States” and “A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.”
Posted by: AFP | September 18, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Excellent point Joey!
Posted by: b | September 18, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Bunch of liberal radicals.
Posted by: JOhn | September 18, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
College of Wooster. HA! Real Americans were at work.
Posted by: geevill | September 18, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
rodney – i don’t see any democratic congress controlled members hurling their time and tax payers dollars that way! whose the govenor of LA., that’s right! a republican by the name of bobby jindal! and what did he say, the people of new orlean’s and the rest of our state are doing fine, although it will take many more years to fully recover, meaning financially and mentally, not goverment hand-outs! so we need to throw billions more tax payers money that direction for what! we already did that! the only people crying foul are the leftest liberal hand out morons! it takes time to restore things back to 100% you idiot! that storm was a beast and you evidently think things should be restored the night after let alone a month or two! you evidently don’t understand how contruction work and clean-up of that size works! safety and health hazards slow processes down so no one is harmed in the process or the future again! typical liberal, throw money at the problem and let it fix itself while in the process blame the republican’s for the storm and damage! you liberal’s can’t hide behind the tax payers dollar’s anymore! get over yourself, you think republican’s are at fault for everthing that happen’s and go south, yet the democrats do no wrong, give me a freakin break! if you were a real democrat and not a leftwing nut, you would understand that! but that’s your problem, your liberal nuts don’t understand reality, just your hollywood fantasy dream’s of how you morons think you can wave a magic wand and fix everything overnight!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 18, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I have faith in the American people who will choose COUNTRY FIRST McCAIN/PALIN on Nov. 4!
Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
MORE INFO CAME OUT TODAY ABOUT THE PALIN AFFAIR http://www.theveep.com
THE COUNT IS NOW 5 SCANDALS THAT PALIN HAS REVOLVING AROUND HER http://www.hotpres.com
Posted by: Jixny | September 18, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
@Greymatter.
Have you noticed that McCain’s mother is 96? I think he will well finish his term.
Posted by: ComeOnNow | September 18, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
@MIguy
I’m surprised that a guy like you, sounding so sure of yourself is voting for a candidate that says “uh” or “uhm” every two words.
And by the way Obama want’s to wage war with Afganistan. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/14/AR2007081400950.html
You think that a guy who would want to wage war would go against a bigger threat such as Iran?
Posted by: Realize | September 18, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
I’m with Biden! Amen!
Posted by: bea | September 18, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Obama doesn’t have faith in the people. We’re bitter, clinging to guns and religion, etc. He talks down to us unlike McCain and Palin. McCain had the courage to choose a strong woman as a running mate, unlike Obama. Obama is too insecure to choose the strong woman who would have unified the party and make a democratic win a certainty. A president cannot have insecurities.
Posted by: JKIR | September 19, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
what’s truly amazing is that Joe was able to keep a straight face while saying all this…….
he & Obanal must absolutely bust a gut laughing after they get away from the stage and the crowd, knowing that they’ve successfully bamboozled yet another crowd of suckers.
Posted by: redc1c4 | October 17, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm