Biden Dubs McCain ‘Bush 44′
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe reports: With the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., promising an aggressive new strategy after polling gains by the rival Republican campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Democratic vice-presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., delivered a hard-hitting speech Monday denouncing McCain as nothing more than "Bush 44."
"If you’re ready for four more years of George Bush, then John McCain is your guy," Biden said in St. Clair Shores, Michigan. "You know, just as George Herbert Walker Bush was nicknamed ‘Bush 41′ and his son was nicknamed ‘Bush 43,’ John McCain could easily become known as ‘Bush 44.’"
With his rhetoric ratcheted up in comparison to his first few weeks on the campaign trail, Biden urged voters not to be fooled by McCain’s pledges to bring reform to Washington, reminding the crowd of Bush’s campaign promises when he won the White House in 2000.
"Eight years later we have another Republican nominee who’s telling us the exact same thing," Biden said. "He’s saying this time will be different, he says it really will. This time he’s going to put country before party, to change the tone, reach across the aisle. He’s going to change the Republican Party, he’s going to change the way Washington works. Folks, we’ve seen this movie before. And we know, the sequel is always worse than the original."
Biden, who the campaign believes has "unique standing" to argue against McCain due to the two senators’ long-term friendship dating back over 30 years, not only hit out at McCain’s record as a lawmaker but also his current "Rovian" campaign tactics.
"The campaign a person runs tells ya everything about the way they’ll govern," he said. "The McCain-Palin campaign decided to bet the house, decided to bet the house on the politics perfected by Karl Rove. Those tactics may be good at squeaking by in an election, but they are very bad if you want to lead one nation, indivisible."
Biden recalled that it was these same tactics that proved fatal to McCain’s bid for the GOP nomination in 2000.
"Now some of the very same people and the tactics that were used against John and deplored by him, his campaign is now employing against Barack Obama," said Biden, who frequently notes on the campaign trail that he offered to help his "good friend John" during the 2000 fall-out. "The same campaign, the same campaign that once called for a town hall a week is now launching a low blow a day in this campaign and I’m tired of it, [but] folks, Barack and I can take it."
"But what really bothers me," he continued, "is that for every punch that’s thrown at us it’s an attempt to distract you, to distract the American people, from the very important issues that face this country."
Biden’s speech focused primarily on McCain’s domestic record, with no fewer than two mentions of McCain’s running mate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
"And now, Governor Palin, his running mate, his running mate, she made a statement: “All senators do is vote. That’s all they do." Well, just imagine what America would look like if John’s votes over the past 20 years had become the law of the land," Biden said. "All I can say is, to Sarah Palin, thank goodness John McCain’s votes didn’t count in the majority on all of those issues."
Biden also accused McCain of trying to "cloak himself in reform but then misrepresent his running mate’s record."
In response, the McCain campaign called Biden’s comments "ridiculous" and "not credible."
“Barack Obama’s running mate today made more ridiculous comments that are not credible and stand in complete contradiction to their record," said McCain/Palin spokesman Ben Porritt in a statement. "It’s salesmanship not leadership for Barack Obama and his running mate to tell families in Michigan that they have plans to aid the middle class when they recently both voted in favor of higher taxes for Americans making as little as $42,000. The Obama-Biden ticket’s economic plan raises taxes, kills jobs, increases spending to the tune of $860 billion, and they both persist in opposing sensible energy policy that will relieve our dependence on foreign energy.”
The Delaware lawmaker made Monday’s major domestic policy address in front of 1,500 supporters at South Lake High School, but not even something as seemingly minor as a crowd count can be given without it turning into a dig against the opposing party. Quipped Biden spokesman David Wade, "As the McCain campaign might call it, 1.5 million attending speech," in light of accusations that the GOP campaign has been inflating their crowd numbers in recent weeks.
Wade noted that Monday’s speech does not represent a new "attack dog" role for Biden, but rather "the truth squad."
The St. Clair Shores address is the first of two major "framing" speeches Biden will give, the second to be focused on foreign policy, set to be delivered Monday September 22 in Baltimore.
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The McCain campaign will be not destroyed by the Democrats – the GOP are going to do it themselves.
In the last Republican congress bills containing 14,000 earmarks were passed; under the Dems that has fallen to 10,000. But both sides know that they cannot do with earmarks and under ‘Loose Nuke’ McCain Republicans are going to suffer as much as anyone else.
That’s why Rove, Greenspan, and even Fox News have begun to move against him. Maybe they think it would be better to sacrifice this cycle and launch a stronger campaign with a ‘proper’ Republican like Tim Pawlenty or Bobby Jindal in 2012.
Posted by: Reggie | September 15, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Just curious, ABCnews, but why are you focusing inordinate amounts of time to tell us silly things about Palin and her career, but you are not investigating at all the spectacular account on the New York Post today, stating that Obama tried to delay the Iraqi troop withdrawal, for his own political needs, which not only violates the Logan Act, but practically an act of treason? Is this not important to you? Is this not important to the American people? Or are you so in the tank for Obama that you refuse to be journalists and get at the truth?
Just curious.
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 15, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
McLiar!!! No more 4 of the same..
Posted by: james | September 15, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
As surely as Lucy will yank away the football, McCain will pull the plug on American workers.
Posted by: Rudy Murillo | September 15, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
“All senators do is vote. That’s all they do.” OK I will give the girl the Bush doctrine but this is really scary. She does not know how our government works. The heck with a lack of foreign policy experience, the girl has no American Government experience…………..OMG
Posted by: community organizer | September 15, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
When will Palin stop talking about being against earmark reform msihe got over 400 million and bridge to no where in her stump. She think we are stupid. Maybe some republicans are , but I am not. Where is the integrity. If they can lie now how will they run the white house ? Palin is a liar!!
Posted by: james | September 15, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
The New York Post is not credible. It is the paper equivalent of Fox News.
When you want the facts, see http://www.factcheck.org.
Posted by: Joel | September 15, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
the Obama tax provides greater tax relief for more people that the McCain plan. Actually addresses issues of corporate fiscal responsibility, and the deep investment into alternative energy sources will provide for new jobs. Drilling for more oil is not a long term answer. A Better education and innovation is. We need 100,000 new teachers as a start. We need to build more schools and come up with a basic consistant, and comprehensive education program that the states can build on. Neither John McCain nor Sarah Palin were particularly good students, so no wonder they are so against having a well educated, well informed, President that is looking for the best solution to a problem and not a political solution.
Posted by: Jason | September 15, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
McPalin are fabricating lies even Karl Rove their architect and political brain has said it because he has enough of lies from McPali. No to four more years of the same failure in international standing, failure on economic policies and failure in domestic issues. Even Karl Rove is rejecting McPalin’s dirty strategies.
Posted by: BKMC | September 15, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Decent American how can a single Senator delay troop removal? I thought that that was up to the President and congress?
Posted by: community organizer | September 15, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
So, just who is making race an issue in this campaign??
Joe Biden, Churchillian Orator, says to elect Obama simply because he is Black.
Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden, campaigning in North Carolina where black votes could help swing the state to the Democrats, said today that electing a black person to the White House would be transformative.
Biden said the policies of running mate Barack Obama make his presidency even more urgent and declared this to be the most important election that any living person has seen in their lifetime. But he particularly singled out the meaning of electing someone who is black.
“That will be a transformative event in American politics and internationally,” Biden said. “That all by itself will be significant.”
“That all by itself” is all this ticket has going for it.
Posted by: carl | September 15, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
McPalin are liars!!!
Posted by: james | September 15, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Wow, a lot of quotable quotes in that Biden speech.
Posted by: Paul | September 15, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Biden: “Folks, we’ve seen this movie before. And we know, the sequel is always worse than the original.”
I like that one. But my favorite might be:
“But what really bothers me,” he continued, “is that for every punch that’s thrown at us it’s an attempt to distract you, to distract the American people, from the very important issues that face this country.”
Posted by: Paul | September 15, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
“…promising an aggressive new strategy after polling gains by the rival Republican campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Democratic vice-presidential nominee Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., delivered a hard-hitting speech Monday denouncing McCain as nothing more than “Bush 44.”"
OK, so what exactly is the new strategy? This has been their only strategy since day one.
Posted by: Don | September 15, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
The Liberals are losing it. Most of us who represent ‘normal’ America, which is the majority, are laughing our arses off. Obama looks like he just saw a ghost. The only MAN I know here in Chicago that can speak 2000 words and says nothing is his mentor Jesse Jackson. I am having a blast witnessing the loonyness of how the party of peace and love starts to self destruct. I have never witness such mean, dishonest, bazaar, sexist and racist statments as I am hearing from the Obama camp and reading in the blogs. If this is the change your preaching, I stick with Senator McCain.
Posted by: Jen | September 15, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Sorry, Joe Biden’s opinions are not qualified, because
he claims he is not qualified to become VP. He
said, Hillary should have been chosen as VP, she
is much more qualified and Obama made a poor
choice, choosing him!! WE surely can’t vote for
Obama, who made a gross error in his VP. choice
and the VP, who claims he is not qualified?
Wow, bad news from the Obama camp. SECURITY
IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE. TERRORISM CAN
DESTROY THE TERRITORY AND ECONOMY WILL
BE ZERO.
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Let’s see the shady Golden Child get out of this one.
Barack Obama privately tried to persuade Iraqi political leaders to stall an agreement on scaling back American troops in Iraq while publicly campaigning for a speedy withdrawal, The New York Post reported Monday.
Obama’s request for a delay was a major theme of his talks with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July, Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said in an interview with the Post.
Obama said that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of American troops, excluding the Bush administration in its “state of weakness and political confusion,” according to the report.
Obama also reportedly tried to persuade the U.S. commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to offer a “realistic withdrawal date.” They declined, the Post said.
The New York Post article raises doubts about Obama’s call to withdraw combat troops by 2010, especially if his request for a delayed agreement had been accepted. By the time a new Iraqi government is elected, fully operational, can form a new coalition government and comes up with a draft accord, it will already by May 2010, the Post noted. It could take another six months for the draft to be passed into law.
Click here to read the article in The New York Post.
Posted by: Kim | September 15, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
If you liked Jimmy Carter your going to love Obama and Biden. What fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: William | September 15, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Hey Don,
So far MCCain has not let them down.
Posted by: community organizer | September 15, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Carl: “That will be a transformative event in American politics and internationally,” Biden said. “That all by itself will be significant.”
Carl, are you saying you don’t agree with Biden?
I think it will be significant. Just as the converse is true, too, with Palin. Her as first female vice president would also be significant.
Posted by: Paul | September 15, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Jen Good for you.. Now you do realize that McCain age 72 has picked a running mate whom it appears does not know what a Senator or Congressman do “All senators do is vote. That’s all they do.” Not only is she weak on foreign policy apparently her understanding of the American government is a bit sketchy as well.
Posted by: community organizer | September 15, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
William
Jimmy Carter created more jobs than both Bush 1 and Bush 2 combined.
Democrats are better for the economy. It’s an irrefutable fact.
Millions of Jobs Added
Truman 1949 -1952 5.2
Eisenhower 1953 – 1956 2.7
Eisenhower 1957 – 1960 0.8
Kennedy/Johnson 1961 – 1964 5.7
Johnson 1965 – 1968 9.8
Nixon 1969 – 1972 6.1
Nixon/Ford 1972 – 1976 5.2
Carter 1977 – 1980 10.4
Reagan 1981 – 1984 5.2
Reagan 1985 – 1988 10.8
Bush 1989 – 1992 2.5
Clinton 1993 – 1996 11.6
Clinton 1997 – 2000 11.5
Bush 2001 – 2004 (0.1)
Bush 2005 – 2008 5.1
Posted by: AkaDad | September 15, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
community organizer: you are CORRECT, a senator can NOT delay troop withdrawal, which is why this is a blatant violation of the Logan Act, where a citizen is not allowed to speak on behalf if the American government. It is also a pathetic display of arrogance, not to mention risking lives of American soldiers and Iraqi citizens, all for the sake of Obama’s political aspirations.
The New York Post stands by it’s story, and this was not just an interview with a “spokesman”, but the Iraqi Foreign Minister Zebari himself. He was quoted as saying that about Obama.
Not only is this a felony, but also a complete contradiction to his promise to get troops out as soon as possible.
Trust that the State department is investingating this. If this is proven to be true, I do hope Obama is arrested and led away in handcuffs, he is such a filty criminal and an embarassment to America.
Are you convinced now that Barack Obama is a dangerous liar and fraud, that will do anything and hurt anyone to get elected?
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 15, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Say what you want about Biden, but unlike Palin at least he understands the role of the Federal Reserve, lol.
Her ignorance has gone from assumed to suddenly and very stunningly real.
And McCain’s judgment in picking her certainly is suspect, too. Though not quite as suspect as the ass he made of himself over Georgia, when he found a way to make even Bush look reasoned and measured.
Posted by: Paul | September 15, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
obama never made any changes as a Politician.
He detached himself from Jeremiah Wright, is that
the change he is making? He didn’t make any
changes to the corrupted Cook Co. regime.
Security is the most important thing in this Election.
SECURITY! Who will be the best candidate to
keep America safe?
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
obama never made any changes as a Politician.
He detached himself from Jeremiah Wright, is that
the change he is making? He didn’t make any
changes to the corrupted Cook Co. regime.
Security is the most important thing in this Election.
SECURITY! Who will be the best candidate to
keep America safe?
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Where is Biden stealing all these quotes? Must be a comedy site.
Posted by: TR08 | September 15, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Is it possible to Muzzle Big Mouth, Joe Biden?
OMG, he is the choice for VP?
He admits he is not qualified, he admits Hillary
is more qualified.
Why doesn’t Obama dump him before it is too
late?
OOPS! Obama isn’t qualified, either, says
Hillary. lololo
Vote McCain and Pallin, they are the only qualified
candidates.
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
decent american. Yes, you are right. Why doesn’t
the ABC NEWS report Obama’s action in trying
to prevent troop withdrawal?
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Paul,
To the Liberals, women are second class citizens unless they are democrates, pro-abortion and hate men . So they see Sarah Palin as a man with pants and have smeared this extremly talented and respected women. To them, breaking through the glass ceiling is not even close to as important as being an inexpereinced black candidate. they proved that by not electing Hillary who would would be leading this race by 12 points by now.
Posted by: Mary | September 15, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Dont know about McCain = Bush 44 but he’s got the 44 right – when’s Biden next sleepover, wheres my invite???
Posted by: Robert B | September 15, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
About time Biden gets back in the game. Good day for Obama – maybe a great week?
http://www.political-buzz.com
Posted by: matt | September 15, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
To Paul | Sep 15, 2008 3:41:35 PM
Obama himself warned that the McCain campaign would make an issue of his race. He never offered a single shred of evidence for it, and at least some of the media remained skeptical of Obama’s claims. Joe Biden now has completely undermined this argument, and stupidly put the issue directly on the table.
Joe Biden was right about one thing, Obama should have chosen Hillary.
Posted by: carl | September 15, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
I just read the article in the New Post about BHO trying to delay the withdrawal of troops form Iraqi. If any of it is true Obama needs to leave the campaign and face his associates in the Senate. He should at least be asked about the facts stated in the story . He is so arrogant that I would lean towards the article being true. We need to know and we need to know now.
Posted by: William | September 15, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
P.S. Speaking of the party that is imploding.
Dems are panic stricken with the, “breath of
fresh air” Sarah Palin. They are making a mistake
attacking her, because it is ricocheting and the
credentials of Obama and Joe Biden are on the
line, now. Swing voters, like us, decided to check
out Obama’s history and we didn’t like what
we learned about him, AT ALL. So, be careful,
Average American Families are identifying with
Palin and even Swing Voters like us, have
switched our allegiance to the right, McCain/Palin
party. We believe they have better credentials,
more experience and represent AMERICA BEST.
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Community organizer,
So you discriminate against someone because of their age?? You just proved my point. LOLOLOLOL. I can’t believe how quick that was.LOLOLOLOl!!! One more thing, you probably don’t realize this, but last time I checked, John McCain is the one running for President. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!
Posted by: Jen | September 15, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
BTW, Matthew Jaffe.
No one in this campaign has made a crazier
statement, than Biden, when he admitted,
Obama made a mistake choosing him as VP.
WE AGREE! hahah
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
AKAdad, if this job was only about adding jobs I would agree with you. Look what Iran did when Carter was president. It a puzzle with lots of dots that will have to connected to push us forward.
Posted by: William | September 15, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
decent – Actually no, I am more concerned that the possible VP thinks that “All senators do is vote. That’s all they do.” The girl has no understanding of how her own government works. She is on the ticket with a 72 year old man. That is scary.
Posted by: community organizer | September 15, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
And who could forget this nugget of Biden wisdom:
During a stop in Columbia, Mo., Biden was speaking before a large crowd when he decided to give special recognition to State Senator Chuck Graham.
“Chuck, stand up, let the people see you,” Biden shouted.
However, Biden did not realize that Graham is confined to a wheelchair.
Posted by: carl | September 15, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Talk about Flip Flop – Biden once said he would be proud to be John McCain’s running mate.
Posted by: susie | September 15, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Women have suffered oppression in the world longer than Blacks … a woman President of the U.S.A. would be signal a great change for America and the World … especially for the Middle Eastern countries that still hold women in oppression … but did the DNC care? h*ll NO!!
Posted by: Cassandra Washington | September 15, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Jen – No I do not have a problem with MCCain’s age. His politics yes. He is 72 years old and should have choosen a more capable person than Palin to run with. I voted for Regan twice. Loved then man!
Posted by: community organizer | September 15, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
The stock market is taking a bath, similar to the
bath I took in the stock market in 1999. YES
Bill Clinton was in the White House, the stock
market dropped how many points? Some of
the stocks never recovered and we even owned
a few stocks that went away, ENRON being
1 of them. So, today, we hear the dems screaming
but, they have a short memory, no?
Obama knows less about economics than he
does affirmative action, earmarks, corrupted
Cook Co. government, which he was a part of.
Don’t remain Ignorant, Americans. Biden admitss
he is not qualified as a VP, what makes him
qualified to run the economy of USA?
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
I love the way Palin handled the economy of Alaska
especially when she got rid of the Luxury Jet,
and built a sports Arena, all Alaskans could use
instead of a few politicians.
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
KIm and William :
An Obama aide accused Taheri of confusing the Status of Forces agreement with a Strategic Framework Agreement, for which Obama has pushed for congressional review.
“This article bears as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial. Barack Obama has consistently called for any Strategic Framework Agreement to be submitted to the U.S. Congress so that the American people have the same opportunity for review as the Iraqi Parliament,” said Obama spokeswoman Wendy Morigi. “Unlike John McCain, he supports a clear timetable to redeploy our troops that has the support of the Iraqi government. Barack Obama has never urged a delay in negotiations, nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades.”
Posted by: Paige | September 15, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
William: “He is so arrogant that I would lean towards the article being true. We need to know and we need to know now.”
I’m sure anyone not supporting Obama would assume this story is true.
I smell a rat.
Consider this – if it was true, that means that Zebari kept it under wraps from the time of Obama’s visit to now. Why? Because the NY Post didn’t bother to ask him about it before now?
Also, if it was true, that mean Zebari knew this the whole time he was negotiating with Rice and others about the agreement we now have. Did it come up in conversation? You would think it might, don’t you?
If so, the Bush Administration knew about it, and we could only wonder why they haven’t said anything.
Sounds like a dirty trick.
Zebari has favored a long-standing U.S. presence for a while. He wrote some commentary piece for the Washington Post about this a year or so ago. It could be he is trying to influence the election now.
By the way, the NY Post also claims Obama pressed U.S. commanders for a withdrawal timetable. So there we have at least Americans who can confirm or deny that part of the report.
Posted by: Paul | September 15, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Carl, you make me laugh again. It’s the way that Biden cheerfully asked Chuck to stand up…Oh, old Joe. Only you know when you will be replaced by Hillary.
Posted by: mtr2311 | September 15, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Is Biden going to ask McCain to raise his right arm now? He asked the cripple to walk last week.
Posted by: Karen | September 15, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
CONGRESS SPENDS ALL OUR MONEY, and helps the
community organizer find new ways to SPEND
MORE! Congress is majority democrats? OMG
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Fox – Sarah Palin appears to not understand how her government works. “All senators do is vote. That’s all they do.” That makes her qualified to be VP?
Posted by: community organizer | September 15, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Biden is such a buffoon.
Posted by: Jim | September 15, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
James K Polk had 54/40 or fight for a slogan. McCain’s should be 44 and four more.
Posted by: bhciapol | September 15, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
How about Biden’s telling blacks they should vote for Obama because he’s, well, black? Now THERE’s a good reason!
From hotair.com:
Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden, campaigning in North Carolina where black votes could help swing the state to the Democrats, said today that electing a black person to the White House would be transformative.
Biden said the policies of running mate Barack Obama make his presidency even more urgent and declared this to be the most important election that any living person has seen in their lifetime. But he particularly singled out the meaning of electing someone who is black.
“That will be a transformative event in American politics and internationally,” Biden said. “That all by itself will be significant.”
Posted by: beth | September 15, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Dear Senator McCain:
You dishonor yourself by approving recent media commercials filled with deception, half truths and outright lies. You are NOT a man of Presidential character.
Posted by: Johnson, Karen | September 15, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Plus, I echo a remakr above — is ABC going to discuss the report in the NY Post that Obama tried to delay troop withdrawals for his own political gain (not to mention it was against the law, so to speak)?
Posted by: beth | September 15, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
What would we do if DemoraticCongress manipulated our Stock Market? Suppose they
would tax our investments? Suppose they would
increase the well fare payments for unwed mothers
with children sired by multiple males, none of
whom give any support to the family and it all
falls on the taxpayer. Maybe we should vote for
sterlization instead of abortion, which we have
never had a chance to vote on? I have many
great ideas, more than 50% of Americans would
vote for.
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Nice to see Biden has returned from his vacation. And he is spot on. Bush ran in 2000 claiming he could unite people, and remove the partisanship from Washington. 8 years later the economy is in tatters and DC is insanely partisan. How’s it working?
McCain is pushing the same policies as Bush, and trying to distract the country by distorting Obama’s record and lying about Palin’s.
The US economy is in tatters, and McCain’s policies seem to be a mirror of the current policies. Alan Greenspan has even commented that McCain’s economic plan is irresponsible. I can see why McCain has taken to lying about Obama and Palin’s records, he needs to distract the nation’s attention from the mess that the Bush whitehouse has created. Too long till the election though, it won’t work.
http://palincounter.blogspot.com/
Posted by: billthomson | September 15, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
foxyladynews…Sarah Palin had the ice rink built in Wasilla while she was mayor. You and I paid for it because she used a former Ted Stevens staffer who became a lobbyist to get $26 million in earmarks for the town. Unfortunately she let them build the rink before they had clear title to the land and it ended up costing the town millions of dollars extra. When she left her position as mayor the town was over $20 million in debt.
Posted by: maryanne | September 15, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Beth, Kim and William – How enthusiastically did you push this story?:
The Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has said he suspects unnamed persons in the US provoked the conflict in Georgia in an attempt to help a candidate in the US presidential election. (McCain)
Putin said Moscow suspected that US nationals were present in the war zone in Georgia and the Russian military produced a copy of a US passport it said had been retrieved after a bloody clash between Russian troops and Georgian special forces.
Posted by: Paige | September 15, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
career-senator Biden .. you dishonor Blacks by asking them to vote for someone because of their race only … would you ask the same of women or whites?
Posted by: Cassandra Washington | September 15, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
heck yeah fox – I would much rather have my tax dollars going to help the elderly, indigent, working poor people find decent housing, train for and get decent jobs, provide meals on wheels to shut ins, help fund daycare centers so parents can work and not be worried about their kids. I would muh rather my tax dollars help fun Headstart programs and after school programs for children.
Posted by: community organizer | September 15, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Cassandra isn’t that what McCain has said with his choiice of Palin as VP?
Posted by: community organizer | September 15, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Blogs are watched by News sources and VIP. Keep
posting on all blogs, the Obama effort to
block the removal of Troops in Iraq. Also, never
let the blogs forget that Biden said, only last week.
He is not qualified as VP and Obama made the
wrong choice.
Hillary told us, “Obama is not qualified to
be President of United States”.
Listen to your democrats, democrats..
NEITHER BIDEN OR OBAMA ARE QUALIFIED,
ACCORDING TO THE 2 LONG TERM ELECTED
DEMOCRATS.
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
The Iraq war was the biggest pork barrel spending ever. We will spend $5 trillion on the war in Iraq, according to a Nobel prize winner in economics, before this is all over. That’s about $17,000 for every man, woman, and child in the US. We can’t afford this. Our taxes will have to go up to pay for this mistake that Bush got us into and that McCain supports. Our economy is in dire straits because of overspending by our government. I’m a republican, who is voting for a change. I will be voting for Obama because I believe he will get us out of this war sooner and because I believe he will seek another way, besides war, to bring peace.
Posted by: rascal | September 15, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Palin won,t even do a press conference or town hall on her own, and wants to be VP
sounds like Cheney to me……..SCARY
Posted by: watching | September 15, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
GREENSPAN DOESN’T KNOW EVERYTHING, IF HE DID
HE WOULDN’T ALLOW THE STOCK MARKET TO
DROP $500 POINTS LIKE IT DID IN 1999 WHEN
BILL CLINTON WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
BIDEN CLAIMS HE IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE VP,
OMG, WHAT IF OBAMA DIES AND WE ARE LEFT
WITH A VP THAT CLAIMS HE WAS NOT QUALIFIED
AS VP, AND NOW HE IS PRESIDENT!!!
OMG!
OMG
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Barry = Jimmy Carter II
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
JIM. YOU ARE SO RIGHT. BIDEN IS A BUFFOON!
PALIN IS RIGHT, OBAMA WISHES HE HAD
NAMED HILLARY VP, BECAUSE OBAMA PICKED
THE WRONG VP, UNQUALIFIED, BIDEN AND BIDEN
IS THE ONE WHO TOLD US HE IS NOT QUALIFIED
WHAT A BUFFOON!
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
foxylady- Hate to burst your bubble – An Obama aide accused Taheri of confusing the Status of Forces agreement with a Strategic Framework Agreement, for which Obama has pushed for congressional review.
“This article bears as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial. Barack Obama has consistently called for any Strategic Framework Agreement to be submitted to the U.S. Congress so that the American people have the same opportunity for review as the Iraqi Parliament,” said Obama spokeswoman Wendy Morigi. “Unlike John McCain, he supports a clear timetable to redeploy our troops that has the support of the Iraqi government. Barack Obama has never urged a delay in negotiations, nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades.”
Posted by: Paige | September 15, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
“Plus, I echo a remakr above — is ABC going to discuss the report in the NY Post that Obama tried to delay troop withdrawals for his own political gain (not to mention it was against the law, so to speak)?”
They’re too busy bashing Palin to take a breath.
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
VOTE FOR HILLARY, EVEN SHE ADMITTED OBAMA
IS NOT QUALIFIED FOR PRESIDENT. LOL
Posted by: foxladynews | September 15, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
“Please accept that government is rarly the answer to people’s personal problems. ”
But…but…the government is supposed to take care of me like they used to do in Russia.
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
The reason Republicans are such horrible government officials is because this current crop of neo-cons especially have a fevered hatred for government so it is no wonder that they mess things up.
Lets give the pros a go at it. People who are experts in their fields. Not cronys and high school friends that know nothing of the job or position they hold.
-Obama Biden ’08
Posted by: Letter to the PREDITOR | September 15, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
“Not cronys and high school friends that know nothing of the job or position they hold.”
Yup, no cronyism in Chicago politics.
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Oh, yeah! Joey is back in the game, alright. He commands men in wheelchairs to stand up, lol! ‘Rise, I say!’ Ahahaha! Smart move, idiot!
Posted by: Lucie | September 15, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Fiscal conservatives are bailing on McCain in droves… Now the McCains base is mostly the social conservative fundamentalist extreme right wingers
AMERICAS TALIBAN!!!!!!
Multi Billionaire Warren Buffet Supports Obama!
Greenspan says “America can’t afford McCains economics policies.”
Posted by: Letter to the PREDITOR | September 15, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Letter to the Preditor =Your average Liberal who is all about free speach unless they disagree with you. The proof of the meltdown continues and the inmates have been let out. LOL
Posted by: Mary | September 15, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Sarah Palin may not have known what the Bush Doctrine was, but we’re getting a pretty good idea of what the Palin Doctrine is. According to London’s Daily Telegraph, the architects of the Palin Doctrine are a group of people who have been singularly wrong about virtually everything in the last decade — the neocons, who have been briefing Palin for weeks. She’s perfect for the neocons: likeable on the outside, a blank slate on the inside. They first fell in love with her in 2007, during a Weekly Standard-sponsored cruise. So nice to meet you, Governor. And don’t forget, mai tais and preemptive invasions on the Lido Deck at four!
Posted by: Letter to the PREDITOR | September 15, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Biden Dubs McCain ‘Bush 44…’ Guess Biden doesn’t read the Washington Times. Article dated today, September 15, 2008
“Records show McCain more bipartisan.”
“Sen John McCain has been more likely to team up with Democrats than with members of his own party.” WILL THAT EXPLAINS THAT..IF HE ONLY WOULD HAVE STAYED WITHIN HIS OWN PARTY….
And of course, the Obama campaign has no comment….
Posted by: curious indep | September 15, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Isn’t Biden the guy who opposed
the troop surge in Iraq and wanted to
divide Iraq up into 3 sections,
Sunni, Shia, and Kurd(making it easier for Iran to take control)?
Isn’t Biden the guy who doesn’t know the
difference between a battalion and
a brigade?
Isn’t Biden the guy who thinks Sarah
Palin was the Lieutenant Governor of
Alaska?
Isn’t Biden a plagerist?
I guess we have to Dub Biden a
one-of-a-kind Doofus!
Get Real! The McCain/Palin Landslide
has begun!
Posted by: reaganfan | September 15, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Hey, letter from, opps, to the Predator- your pal, Joe believes in creationism-he’s healing people in wheelchairs,lol!
When you’re an accomplished writer like, say, Lee Strobel, talk to me!
Posted by: Lucie | September 15, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Poor Obama and Biden – for such a “clean” campaign, they seem to have come out in full force with their McCain = Bush slogans.
If that’s all they’ve got, I’m wondering why I would vote for Obama. I don’t like the Bush Administration, but I must admit that Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Joe Biden, Harry Reid and John Edwards are not exactly a stellar crowd. If McCain = Bush then, under their scenario, Obama must equal Pelosi, Dean, Reid, et al. No thanks – I’ll take my chance with McCain. After all, I do believe he and Palin can represent POSITIVE change, not just a pretty speech with empty promises.
Posted by: traci | September 15, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
JOE BIDEN’S WORDS:
“Stand up, stand up!” AHahahahahaha!
Hillary would have been better!!!
Ahahahaha!
Posted by: Lucie | September 15, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Obama and Biden are both now running against a lame-duck president either directly or indirectly using guilt by association. That strategy is failing badly but it is about the only way Obama can hide from his ineptitude.
Posted by: dl | September 15, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Hey at least Palin can see Russia from her bedroom window… good enough for the neocons who will use her as their stepford puppit… to fool the masses.
Posted by: Letter to the PREDITOR | September 15, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Obama is so quick to blame President Bush for the financial woes
when the Congress has authority over financial and budgetary matters.
This shows how out of touch and blaming others for Obama’s failures
and his Democrat led Congress of DNC(Do Nothing Crowd) failures.
Start with Democrat Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco and
Democrat Harry Reid of Nevada that’s where the blame and incompetence
comes from!!?
Posted by: 2nfer | September 15, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Letter, you do realize that both Obama and Biden believe that, too, right? Obama touts his Chritianity and Biden is Catholic. As a matter of fact, Obama goes out of hisway to profess he’s just like Sarah in that regard.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
SARAH PALIN’S OWN WORDS: As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?
***************************************
Someone told her that the VP lies every day
Posted by: Thinking | September 15, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
2nfer
You hit the nail on the head!
Posted by: dl | September 15, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Senator Biden is emerging as my #1 pick in this election…BIDEN for PRESIDENT …Opps I mean Vice President.
Posted by: lanawonders | September 15, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Obama/Biden/Pelosi/Reid. Is this change?
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
POLAR BEARS FOR OBAMA!!!
Watch your back Sarah Palin or you might get a real ear mark!!
Posted by: Letter to the PREDITOR | September 15, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Letter, you just go on telling yourself that. This is one of the most absurd things I’ve heard today.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
decentamerican – no wonder you’re confused. You seem to be getting your “NEWS” from the opinion pages of the Post rather than from their news section. You’re such a tool!
Posted by: hang | September 15, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Women have suffered oppression in the world longer than Blacks … a woman President of the U.S.A. would be signal a great change for America and the World … especially for the Middle Eastern countries that still hold women in oppression … but did the DNC care? h*ll NO!! Cassandra Washington
WHAT HISTORY BOOKS ARE YOU READING?
Posted by: Cicly | September 15, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
can anybody tell me what kind of education palin has? Is she a major in journalism? Say what? And she accepted the republican VP spot? the bar for VP has just been lowered. My take now is anybody can qualify for VP. The rest of the world is having a good laugh at us.
Posted by: mary taylor | September 15, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Very true mary… but she can see Russia from her bedroom. That should qualify her RIGHT???
Posted by: Letter to the PREDITOR | September 15, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
THESE ARE VERIFIED QUOTES FROM GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN OVER THE PAST 20+ YEARS (verified from reliable sources and newspapers): “I don’t believe in interracial relationships, I was born in Idaho and raised to believe that whites and blacks shouldn’t mix or date each other” (1986) “I want creationism as the only theory taught in our schools” (2001) “I don’t know a lot about Iran, I just heard that they are bad people” (2006) “He can say he is a christian but as far as I’m concerned, Obama is a muslim, look at his middle name” (2007) “The bible will at some point, be in every classroom in our great state if I have my way” (2005) “Here in Alaska, we don’t have hardly any black people, I never talk to them, so I was surprised that a black girl beat me in the 1984 Miss Alaska pageant”(1988) “Todd and I talked about Hurricane Katrina as God’s way of cleansing New Orleans of the blacks who have sinned, the Bible predicted it” (2005)
Posted by: Letter to the PREDITOR | September 15, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
?
Posted by: Cicly | September 15, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Women have suffered oppression in the world longer than Blacks … a woman President of the U.S.A. would be signal a great change for America and the World … especially for the Middle Eastern countries that still hold women in oppression … but did the DNC care? h*ll NO!! Cassandra Washington
WHAT HISTORY BOOKS ARE YOU READING?
Posted by: Cicly | September 15, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Calling the spin-doctor, calling the spin-doctor–do you copy, over…
McCain you are so foolish. US economic fundamentals are not ‘strong’. Where have you been for the past year? Oh– In one of your seven-ten houses; depending on what the definition of house is. You sir are a moronic, incompetent republican puppet, a dwindling shadow of your former self.
You say the fundamentals are the American worker’s– we’ll jobs are being lost and sent overseas thanks to you. Good lookin out for the fundamentals.
Posted by: Lee-- Dallas, TX | September 15, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Preditor:
I listened to her interview with Gibson. I felt bad for her because she sounded incoherent and she talked in fragments. Her usage of verbs and preps and adjectives is equivalent to a second grader. The woman is not that smart. AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE SO PROUD OF THE MCCAIN/PALIN TICKET? THEY HAVE JUST LOWERED THEIR STANDARD! DON’T YOU THINK?
Posted by: mary taylor | September 15, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
The report on Obama violating the Logan Act and illegally delaying troop withdrawal is reported in the New York Post. There is a direct quote from the Iraqi foreign minister. you can not pick and choose your news….you can not claim something is untrue or false just because it makes your Obama look like a filty criminal.
The author is putting his career on the line if a story as huge as this is false, so as far as I am concerned, it is true, especially because there is a direct quote, FROM AN INTERVIEW, with Zebari, not some unnamed “spokesman”. And of course, you can not give some comment from an Obama aide as your proof that it isn’t true, as his campaign will always try to spin it.
this requires a State department investigation, and hopefully Obama will be arrested for his crimes. The world will be a better place if Obama is kept off the streets.
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 15, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Laughing on a new post? Ahahaha! What do you think you ‘add’ “…to the conversation”? Btw, ‘Preditor’
Main Entry: pred·a·tor
Pronunciation: \ˈpre-də-tər, -ˌtȯr\
Function: noun
Date: 1912
1 : one that preys, destroys, or devours ‘-
Learn to spell!
Posted by: Lucie | September 15, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
When Sarah Palin told the party faithful at last week’s RNC that she had stuck it to the big bad oil companies as governor of Alaska, she did so in a way that would make even old-school leftist revolutionaries blush.
As Democrats and others on the left try to dig things up on Palin, her dirty little secret hides in plain sight: Gov. Palin is the head of the Socialist state of Alaska.
Thanks to increased oil taxes, state revenue has swelled to $10 billion, and Alaskans pay no state income or sales tax, with the state government mostly funded by taxes on the oil pumped from public lands. There’s so much money, in fact, that the state mails individual checks to residents every year. And because of the boom in oil prices, a typical Alaska household will receive a payment of up to $13,000 this year.
Governor Palin deserves at least part of the credit for her state’s great fortune. In 2007, she signed into law a tax increase on crude oil exported from Alaska. The base tax is 25 percent. The tax increases an additional 0.4 percent on each dollar of the price above $52.00 per barrel. The Seattle Times quotes an official from ConocoPhilips, “Once royalty payments and other taxes are added in, the state captures about 75 percent of the value of a barrel.”
Posted by: Letter to the PREDITOR | September 15, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
The GOP was the FIRST to have TWO black secretaries of State, Powell and Rice, two people who would make wonderful Presidents. It will be a long time before the racist Dem party puts an African American in a high cabinet post. why was the GOP more progressive in diversity than the Dems?
Palin is married to a Native American.
McCain’s adopted child is from Bangladesh.
The GOP embraces diversity.
BTW, it is very well established that ABC unfairly editted Palin’s interview, as the final transcript revealed that they cut out very important comments from her. I guess ABC was afraid of having a woman look intelligent….how dare she! And how dare you for believing all this tripe.
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 15, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
“We (the government) should own the refineries. Then we can control how much gets out into the market.” -
Comrade Maurice Hinchey (D-NY).
This idea is also strongly supported by Comrade Maxine Waters (D-CA) who threatens to nationalize U.S. oil because liberal bureaucrats know how to oil companies.
Comrade Lord Obama the most merciful will bless us with his godly vision with the people’s car when he nationalizes Ford, GM, and Chrysler. This green car will be powered by hope alone. Comrades, I tell you, this will be glorious thing.
Marxist Socialism first, Obama/Plugs 08
Posted by: Norman | September 15, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
John McCain has repeatedly admitted that Obama is not a muslim yet most Republicans posting messages continue to slander him by calling him a muslim… that is true racism in action.
But then again if your party supports the confederate flag then it is what it is INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM
Posted by: Letter to the prEDITOR | September 15, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Norman: Is Maxine Waters running for President? I hadn’t heard.
Posted by: jock59801 | September 15, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
No, idiot, I think you’re the one that missed it, Ahahaha!
(It’s a free country and I can laugh anytime I choose. Since Apollo blew it, we don’t have to worry about socialism!!)
Posted by: Lucie | September 15, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
“John McCain has repeatedly admitted that Obama is not a muslim yet most Republicans posting messages continue to slander him by calling him a muslim… that is true racism in action.
Most messages? That’s a bit of a stretch eh?
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Biden is a total idiot, face the facts folks
Posted by: Jordan | September 15, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Is Obama a natural born citizen?????
Posted by: Jordan | September 15, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
I would like to know what this clown Biden has done to benefit anyone other than his cronies and kids since he has been in the Senate. He’s totally in the pocket of MBNA and supported the change in the bankruptcy law that benefited no one but the Credit Card companies. He and his cronies have made it easy for card companies to arbitrarily raise rates to stratospheric limits that border on loan sharking levels.
Let’s also talk abotu leadership. Obama did exactly what in Illinois that improved the lives of his constituents? The south side of Chicago has a whopping high school graduation rate of 30%. Black on black crime runs rampant. Check the murder rate this past summer there. He’s has personally benefitted from an association with a slum lord. He speaks of “bipartisanship” and yet has only attached his name to 18% of all legislation submitted by his Republican peers while McCain has signed onto 55% of the Democratic bills. He had the balls of a pygmy with his abysmal record of voting “present” while in the Illinois legislature. This man and his running mate wouldn’t know leadership if it walked up and bit him in the butt. Liberals should take their butts to the vets and get some rabies shots to rid themselves of the rabid diatribe they spout. They’re so eaten up with hate for Bush it’s not even funny. Regardless of who the Republicans set forth, these screaming banshees would still accusing the candiate of being a Bush clone. It’s ridiculous. I wish they had that much venom for a Congress that has about half the favorable rating of the current president. I’d love to see Palin or any other hcokey mom take over. They certainly could do no worse than the clowns we have in there now
Posted by: Phil | September 15, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
I think he may be a Muslime and thats cool, just not as a US President. Maybe he can try in Iraq?
Posted by: Jordan | September 15, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
“Mack, do you also believe in Creationism…Fess up???”
Are you on a witch hunt? I’ve never heard Barry comment on the matter. You’d better make sure the Messiah isn’t a creationist before you start throwing stones.
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
How can ABC news run Obama ads on this page. What a Joke liberal media…… And the dumb sheep just keep believing it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Posted by: Jordan | September 15, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Joe Biden is Washington DC! How can he claim to change what he is?
Posted by: highwayman | September 15, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
“Obama is a muslim …its a proven fect!
No black man should be an american presadint!!!!
Go McCain Plain!!!”
Weak. Try again.
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
“Joe Biden is Washington DC! How can he claim to change what he is? ”
shhhhhh!
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Joe Biden told a man in a Wheel Chair to stand up..
Posted by: Jordan | September 15, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
“Joe Biden told a man in a Wheel Chair to stand up..”
Are you sure that wasn’t Barry? He’s the Messiah don’t ya know.
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Even if you hate the idea of Obama, you have to vote for him. He really is the only choice because of the economy. No true American can put John McCain and Sarah Palin, neither of which know anything about economics in the White House. We would lose everything, every dollar would be at risk. The country would be crippled and we would be like Russia, when it went bankrupt.
Posted by: tm | September 15, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
LOL thats a good point….
Posted by: Jordan | September 15, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
I noticed Joe Biden didn’t mention as to WHY we are in this mortgage mess. All HE needs to do is look at himself and his running mate and fellow senators. If the Gov’t. would STOP interferring with the economy, it would correct itself! Biden and Obama MADE the mortgage companies give loans to people who SHOULDN’T HAVE GOTTEN APPROVAL! Duh! Biden needs to look at his friend from CT, Senator Chris Dodd. Obama was using former business heads from Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac. Maybe WE SHOULD ASK HIM? Obama’s remedy for this mess is socialism which would make the mess worse! We have congressmen who already want to socialize the oil industry here (Maxine Waters D-CA). Can’t they just leave businesses alone? And THEY wonder WHY businesses leave and go outside of this country! GET a clue congressmen!!!!!!!!
Posted by: justrighttoo | September 15, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Even if you hate the idea of Mccain, you have to vote for him. He really is the only choice because of the economy. No true American can put Obama and Biden, neither of which know anything about economics in the White House. We would lose everything, every dollar would be at risk. The country would be crippled and we would be like Russia, when it went bankrupt.
Posted by: Jordan | September 15, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Bush 44 that´s a good one!!
Posted by: Elias | September 15, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
It was great Joe. You told it just like it was and yes McCain would be Bush 44. I am glad that you and Obama are coming out of your corner fighting. I’m glad that you do not have to get down in the same gutter as McCain, because you have truth on your side. McCain has to depend on lies and distortions. He couldn’t even run on his own message he had to steal Obama’s. McCain has nothing orginal it just more of the same
Posted by: Lyra Talarico | September 15, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
………and if Obama’s elected it will be the second term of Jimmy Carter!
Posted by: Alan in Los Gatos, CA | September 15, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Obama/Biden would be Jimmy Carter II
especially with Iran trying to get nuclear weapons. I do not think Obama has the stomach to stop them if sanctions fail.
Posted by: highwayman | September 15, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Mack first you need to learn how to spell and secondly you need to stop believing all the scum that is made up about Barack Obama. He was born in this country and McCain was born in Panama..
You make your party look bad..Try to stay more informed.
Posted by: Sharonkathleen | September 15, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Has-Been Biden, is a puppet of MBNA bank. His son is a lobbyist for MBNA bank. The bankruptcy law, that Biden pushed through congress, brought on the mortgage crisis and eventual downfall. What about the huge contributions to Biden, from MBNA. Democrats like you enforce my decisions to vote McCain/Palin. Biden, your a bigger hypocrite, than Osama.
Posted by: John W. | September 15, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Alan, other Republicains, if you vote for McCain and Palin. You and your family are going to lose every dollar you have ever made when the financial system implodes. It is happening because the current guy in office did not know anything about the economy and neither McCain nor Palin knows anything about the economy.
Posted by: tm | September 15, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
decentamerican(sic) said:
“The GOP embraces diversity.”
Yeah, that’ why there were so many women, young people and people of color at the RNC among all the old, white guys in that small venue.
No Way, No HOW, NO McSAME, NO PALIN!!!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: jackt51 | September 15, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
The NY Post is as reliable as the supermarket tabloid “The Sun” which has stories all the time about some celebrity having martian babies, or Titanic survivors washing ashore on some rafts. Garbage newspaper, no credibility, no one in NY takes them seriously.
Posted by: Jake | September 15, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
alan in los gatos,ca—well carter would be a massive improvement over bush and mccain.
Posted by: tom | September 15, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Let’s see who’s more got a better record working with the opposite party, just the facts:
Whether looking at bills they have led on or bills they have signed onto, Mr. McCain has reached across the aisle far more frequently and with more members than Mr. Obama since the latter came to the Senate in 2005.
In fact, by several measures, Mr. McCain has been more likely to team up with Democrats than with members of his own party. Democrats made up 55 percent of his political partners over the last two Congresses, including on the tough issues of campaign finance and global warming. For Mr. Obama, Republicans were only 13 percent of his co-sponsors during his time in the Senate, and he had his biggest bipartisan successes on noncontroversial measures, such as issuing a postage stamp in honor of civil rights icon Rosa Parks.
With calls for change in Washington dominating the campaign, both Mr. Obama, the Democrats’ presidential nominee, and Mr. McCain, his Republican opponent, have claimed the mantle of bipartisanship.
But since 2005, Mr. McCain has led as chief sponsor of 82 bills, on which he had 120 Democratic co-sponsors out of 220 total, for an average of 55 percent. He worked with Democrats on 50 of his bills, and of those, 37 times Democrats outnumber Republicans as co-sponsors. Mr. Obama, meanwhile, sponsored 120 bills, of which Republicans co-sponsored just 26, and on only five bills did Republicans outnumber Democrats. Mr. Obama gained 522 total Democratic co-sponsors but only 75 Republicans, for an average of 13 percent of his co-sponsors.
And the winner by ANY reasonable person is McCain!! Argue against that!!
Posted by: Steve | September 15, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Good going Senator Biden. About time. Democrats rolled over with the Swift Boat Karl Rove tactic was unleashed. Democrats rolled over when they ran ads against Max Clellan one of the most decorated veterans to ever serve in Congress and John McCain to this day – TO THIS DAY – has not renounced those tactics. Senator Biden as every American appreciates the service of EVERY military serviceman (including that of John McCain) but John McCain is George W. Bush in a different suit, cut by the neo-con tailors to fit the tone of the day. Time to fight back and take back this country – sorry if that offends some of you, but you must not be down here in the trenches like a lot of us and John and Cindy McCain cannot be your guide here – they have lost touch with the nation.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | September 15, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
The democratic congress is hurting our country. We are seeing this almost daily. I would rather have Bush 44, than Obama, born in Kenya, tax the last dime out of my pocket. McCain is correct, we need real regulation reform, now. Obama wants to tax the fillings out your teeth, to give money to those that won’t work.
McCain/Palin/PUMA – the only choice !
Posted by: martha | September 15, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
The basic logistical question is this: If America is suffering so badly under a Republican president, then why put another one in?
Posted by: jmarsha | September 15, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
“f you liked Jimmy Carter your going to love Obama and Biden. What fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”…..I didn’t like Carter, voted for Gerald Ford, and Reagan in the next one. THe problem is that Bush-McCain are not Republicans in the traditional sense of the word. So, while I may not particularly ‘like’ Obama, I’m voting for him. McCain will just take the country the rest of the way down the skids that Bush has amply greased.
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Biden – can you say MBNA, $124,000 in your pocket? I guess, you are like Obama. Remeber, Resko, about a half a million in Obama’s pocket.
When will the media report the news and not Obama slanted news?
Posted by: abe | September 15, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
There are only three news sources I listen to anymore; FOX, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. They have the only truth I want to hear.
Posted by: sara | September 15, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
“If you liked Jimmy Carter your going to love Obama and Biden. What fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”…..I didn’t like Carter, voted for Gerald Ford, and Reagan in the next one. THe problem is that Bush-McCain are not Republicans in the traditional sense of the word. So, while I may not particularly ‘like’ Obama, I’m voting for him. McCain will just take the country the rest of the way down the skids that Bush has amply greased.
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Is this the same Biden who told a guy in a wheelchair to “stand up so everyone can see you” and then said “Oh wait” “what am I talking about?” What a clown!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1055768/Bungling-Biden-ruin-Obama-fear-Democrats-tells-disabled-politician-stand-up.html
Posted by: Sammy | September 15, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
“There are only three news sources I listen to anymore; FOX, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. They have the only truth I want to hear.” Ha ha ha. You’re kidding, right? You have to be because you’re over here and I don’t think Hannity, Limbaugh, or FOX are anywhere near this place. I just know you’re kidding, it’s a joke.
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
sara—yes we all know republicans dont want real truth so they listen to republican radio from gestapo headquarters in crawford texas. i am so glad you like your nazi info but as for me and the good honest peopel we will vote democrat this year.
Posted by: tom | September 15, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
“There are only three news sources I listen to anymore; FOX, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. They have the only truth I want to hear.” Ha ha ha. You’re kidding, right? You have to be because you’re over here and I don’t think Hannity, Limbaugh, or FOX are anywhere near this place. I just know you’re kidding, it’s a joke.
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Biden is like Obama, change, change and change. All talk no action.
McCain/Palin, they will reform the regulatory process to prevent this situation again.
The choice is simple, Obama is talk, McCain is substance.
Posted by: Alice in Miami | September 15, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
I wish to God we could have Bush again, but we can’t, but God forbid that we should get someone like Biden. He is ao awful, mean, spiteful, just hope he gets what he deserves.
Posted by: Janice | September 15, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
“There are only three news sources I listen to anymore; FOX, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. They have the only truth I want to hear.” Ha ha ha. You’re kidding, right? You have to be because you’re over here and I don’t think Hannity, Limbaugh, or FOX are anywhere near this place. I just know you’re kidding, it’s a joke.
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
I guess Obama/Biden is Dulakis/Bentsen part II.
Posted by: Baron | September 15, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
janice– yes biden will get what eh and all of us deserve to be vice president .and you should be tryed as a war criminal along with bush if you think he has been anything but the worst president the world has ever seen.
Posted by: tom | September 15, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Discussions like this will get very interesting in two weeks when McCain’s poll numbers collapse and the electoral vote projections expand for Obama. Not that those two factors will decide the race but McCain’s core supporters will go into a frenzy. When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout PANIC!!
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
“The basic logistical question is this: If America is suffering so badly under a Republican president, then why put another one in?’
It takes many cooks to spoil the broth.
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Obama finally doing negative attacks, this is better than lying to people pretending that Obama is a candidate of change.
Posted by: 2nfer | September 15, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I’m amazed at how sure most everyone is that only their favorite candidate is capable of leading this country and if the other is elected we’re all doomed. Those comments come from people who will vote with their party even if OBM ran for president! I suspect we are laughed at all over the world when these messages are read.
Posted by: JDMc | September 15, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
“When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout PANIC!!”
You mean like what you guys are doing now?
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Jake: “The NY Post is as reliable as the supermarket tabloid “The Sun” which has stories all the time about some celebrity having martian babies, or Titanic survivors washing ashore on some rafts. Garbage newspaper, no credibility, no one in NY takes them seriously.” ~~~ That’s what people were saying about the National Enquirer when they broke the John Edwards affair story just a few weeks ago. In this case, either the Post is lying about the Iraqi foreign minister’s quote (he hasn’t corrected or retracted the quote yet) or Obama lying.
Posted by: Just following along | September 15, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I guess McCain is Herbert Hoover in drag. Mccain thinks if we close our eyes everything will be just fine.
Posted by: avoter1 | September 15, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
The media NEVER calls Obama on his numerous deceptive ads. I will be voting McCain and Palin. As bad as the media , and Obama try to smear and demean McCain, and Palin’s credentials, I know better. They arent perfect but they have way more credentials, experience, and character, and they dont attend racist churches, or befriend people who are hstile to our country. Palin / McCain !!!!!!!!
Posted by: Badger | September 15, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Hey Obamites, Is this REALLY a unified party?
HILLARY CLINTON:I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.
BILL CLINTON:This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen,”
“I think that they played the race card on me. And we now know, from memos from the campaign and everything that they planned to do it all along,” Bill Clinton said in a telephone interview with WHYY’s Susan Phillips. “I was stating a fact, and it’s still a fact.”
SEN. BIDEN: John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain.
SEN BIDEN: Hillary may have been a better choice than me
Posted by: Badger | September 15, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
So it goes…Dust to Dust….Lehman, Merrill lynch, AIG, Bear Stearns, Freddie MAc, Fannie Mae, no response for Katrina, gas at $5, poor airline service, food prices up 20 %, no hunting, no fishing,,,leaded toys from china, tainted food, salmonella everywhere, water is contaminated, bad roads, drugs get released without testing, high ceo pay, now people losing houses to foreclosures…These could have been prevented !!How can I vote for this ?? If I vote for Mc Cain, I might get a new McCain, but the beaucrats and policies will be the same, Yada, Yada, Yada.. We need change…and Mc Cain it Ain’t!!!
Posted by: ohiochristian | September 15, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
McCain was neck deep as a bribe taker in the Keating Five Lincoln Savings and Loan scandal so he’s a charter member screw-up of the US banking problem and his running mate Palin doesn’t know Fannie Mae from Mae West as proven by her Gibson interview … so any thinking, sane person should vote for Obama and Biden… if we are to get out of this GOP created mess before it’s too late.
Posted by: CHUCK | September 15, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Obama is Stalin 2.
Posted by: Peter | September 15, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
STOCK MARKET HAS WORST DAY SINCE 9-11
You know how sequels are always worse than the Original… McCain is the Bush sequel. Why do we want 4 more years of Republican disaster
Obama, Biden ’08
Posted by: Letter to the prEDITOR | September 15, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
I would have expected more out of Joe Biden. Not because I think he is a moral person or and outstanding human being, I would just expect more than the same, stale rhetoric that the Obama groupies are posting all over blogs nowadays. Please, people, come up with some original material, not the same, canned chorus of the Democrats. Any person who has looked at John McCain’s and George Bush’s records and deeds knows that there are people of different ideals. John McCain has gone against his own party often; and paid a heavy price for it, but at least he has been true to what he said and did and makes no apologies if people in his own party don’t like him or agree with him.
Posted by: Lisa Again | September 15, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Ah well.. You can all point fingers at the Republicans, but let’s not forget how sterling the character is of Charles Rangel. He’s in charge of developing tax legislation and he’s up to his butt in failure to pay and other discrepencies. It’s actually sad that both parties could screw this country up so bad. Time to throw these buttheads out of their crystal palaces and get some people with common sense in charge
Posted by: Phil | September 15, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
I love Biden. He’s just what Obama needs. Stir up the pot, Biden. Scare the living hell out ofthem. There is PLENTY To be VERY afraid of if MCCAin gets in.
Posted by: Matt t he man | September 15, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
So Biden treated a man in a wheel chair like he treats any other man? Beyond being a bit awkward for a few moments, what’s wrong with that? I suspect most of the people in wheelchairs want to be treated like everyone else, want the world to see them as whole people.
I suppose none of you have talked to a blind person and said “You see,…” Or maybe you don’t say anything to anyone who is obviously ‘disabled’ for fear of hurting their feelings?
Posted by: Cathy | September 15, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Can you IMAGINE the horrof of this day if Bush got his way and put all the social security funds in wallstreet????? “the ownership society”..yeah, that worked great huh??? Offer mortages to stooges who can’t pay back nad don’t understand the concept of a VARIABLE rate and then do NOT regulate thebanks pushing them!! FABULOUS IDEA , Georgie! Let’s deregulate the food industry too, how about we deregulate doctors so any old person can operate on you. HEck, let’s deregulate planes too!!! No more pilot’s licences, let’s just let the “markets selfcorrect” huh??? Hey, genius republicans THIS is how the market “self corrects”!
Posted by: jess | September 15, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Why all the hate? always with the hate.
I’ve seen it in politics before… but not like this, this is different, no acnowledgement of sound arguments against ur own views, utter hatred of views different to ur own. How can people so similar be so hateful to one another. It’s so depressing.
The internet gave rise to this and showed us the true ugliness of human nature and it’s not just random people any more but the politicians, celebrities, leaders and even scientists who people look to for guidance are just as bad. So much hypocrisy and hate, for so little gain. Where is the bi-partisanhip?, the co-operation? people are just labled “Democrat” or “Republican” and this is all in one country, what about the many others, some with even more hatred within them.
Pointless, all this will be forgotten in time… like tears in rain… Time to die (sorry I couldn’t resist)
I wonder…
Posted by: Me | September 15, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
GOPitbull—-i cant wait until we eliminate all you racist nazi republicans from my america,from teh america our founding fathers envisioned so many years ago,and taht the republicans want to destroy.
Posted by: tom | September 15, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
‘Decentamerican’
I had to put your name in perenthesis because I believe that you are not decent at all. How did I know? Because for you to believe anything that comes from NY Post, is a clear indication that you are not decent at all.
Are you kidding me? Ny Post? The trashiest newspaper in the tristate region. A paper so trashy that people don’t take it even when they give out copies for free( which is the only thing they do now to boost circulation). The trash couldn’t even name their source and said a top iraqi official told them. How could you believe that? A paper that has already given mccain a trashy endorsement and is in tanks for mccain. Furthermore, how could you believe what the so called iraqi officials said, when they owe their positions to bush and are working in tandem with him.
Believe NYPost and its trashy headlines and I’ve got a bridge in alaska to sell you!!
Posted by: themanwhosawtomorrow | September 15, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
What is up with some of the members of this blog? I don’t understand your view point on how McCain can be the answer. If you would view his record 90% of the time voting with Bush. Don’t forget how he flip flops on a lot of issues when he was a senator. He even flip flopped on his own immigration bill that he wrote. Now folks, don’t play the same politics. Unless you make over 604,000 a year then maybe McCain is the candidate for change. Obama has change, he even noted in his speech to over 80,000 people, clearly stating what he will do for the economy and how he will change it. Don’t be fooled, if you vote McCain then let’s repeat the Bush Years. I am sorry folks but with a McCain administration I think our country will continue in the path of a downward spiral and perhaps go bankrupt. Obama will provide healthcare, keep social security from going private, will create over 5 million jobs in the next 10 years, lower taxes for 90% of the middle class, where with McCain you won’t get a tax break unless your rich! The choice is simple, if you would put a side your party views and vote for the candidate with real change!
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
The McCain camp is beginning to scare me. What’s particularly troubling is repeated news reports where McCain sticks by a claim even though it has been shown to be wrong.
For example, when Palin, in the second part of her first major interview since she joined the GOP ticket, defended the nearly $200 million in federal pet projects she sought as Alaska governor this year John McCain told a television audience she had never requested them.
Someone’s wrong here and I’m pretty sure it’s McCain. Further McCain claimed that Obama wanted sex education for children in kindergarden yet news agencies have repeatedly pointed out that there is no evidence to support this claim. These appear to be [untrue] and they’re a sign that McCain would be a bad choice for president.
I am an independent voter. I became an independent because I was disgusted by the track record of some Missouri Democrats who put looking politically popular over good policy.
In the presidential election, however, I’m going to vote Obama-Biden and I urge everyone else to do the same because McCain’s tactics are pretty disgusting.
Posted by: VespaVista | September 15, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
finally biden is fighting back… the democrats lack in one thing, that is guts to stand up to the LIES and Karl Rove politics of the war hawks and religitards (mccain & palin)…
Posted by: earthisnotflat | September 15, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
John McCain claims he is for change – yet has 7 corporate lobbyists on his staff, voted with Bush over 90% of the time, and while saying he wants to free the U.S. it’s of dependence on foreign oil – he consistantly has voted against extending tax breaks for alternative energy. He supports a continued presence in Bush’s lie-based, elective Iraq war that has killed, maimed, wounded over 35,000 American troops, killed over 100,000 Iraqis, and wasted hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer’s money (the biggest earmark in history) – while terrorism runs amok in Pakistan/Afganistan, rendering the U.S. less safe and more isolated. Sarah Palin has so much baggage she could use a conveyor belt – first there is Troopergate, she had a trooper fired for divorcing her sister; next is her lie-based claim she opposed the “bridge to nowhere” – when in fact she supported this massive $348 million dollar earmark/boondoggle…until it became a political liability, now there is evidence she squandered nearly $50,000 of taxpayer’s money to fly her husband and children around – and accepted expense money for 312 travel days that were in fact spent at home! She supports the disgraceful, inhumane wholesale slaughter of magnificient wolves – while claiming to be a Christian, so morally bankrupt hunters can steal wolves sustinance, as she slashed programs for the poor by 60%! She opposes woman’s rights – opposing abortion even in the case or rape or incest. She claims to be pro-life, yet opposes potentially life-saving stem cell research that could offer miraculous cures for suffering human beings. She delusionally claims God wants us to build a pipeline in Alaska to enrich the coffers of greedy, unscrupulous oil companies – to the detriment of creatures God created and states “we are on a mission from God” in Iraq, a needless war that has slaughtered over 100,000 people for nothing but revenge, greed, and oil. Sarah Palin doesn’t belong in the White House – she belongs in a nut house!
Posted by: Greg Horak | September 15, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
mccain/palin are just more bush policies and we must stop them from getting elected or america will become like teh roman empire. GONE!!!!!
Posted by: tom | September 15, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
To quote John Kerry: “John McCain is a prisoner of the right wing, not a maverick.”
What was McCain thinking by selecting Sarah Palin as his vice president? I don’t believe this is the best choice of a running mate when that person is only a heartbeat away from being president.
There were definitely more qualified candidates in the Republican Party.
Sarah Palin is not Hillary Clinton, and Hillary’s army of supporters should realize this fact. The Alaska governor is ardently anti-abortion, even in the case of rape or incest. She and McCain want to drill for more oil in the Gulf of Mexico.
Don’t hurricanes Gustav and Katrina, to name a few, dampen their ardor? Every hurricane in the gulf puts the oil rigs, as well as the refineries, in harm’s way.
Our country has to get away from its dependency on Middle East oil, as well as gulf oil, as soon as possible.
We need alternative fuels.
When we see what a country like China has accomplished when it put all its energy into it, the Chinese have better airports, train systems and so on, and their money isn’t being drained by a war in Iraq.
Our infrastructure in many places makes us look like a Third World country.
So much money is being drained by our war in Iraq, there isn’t much money left over for better schools, health care and so on. McCain and Palin are so busy catering to the National Rifle Association, neo-conservatives, anti-abortionists and others that the rest of us who think differently aren’t even noticed.
I guess the Republicans think they can win the election with only the right-wing of the party. McCain and Palin are just another term of the Bush/Cheney administration.
Posted by: Letter to the prEDITOR | September 15, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I am writing to comment on Senator John McCain’s selection of Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska as his running mate.
Senator McCain had an opportunity to break the mold, but he settled on a gimmick. Senator McCain’s selection of Governor Sarah Palin-a token female-is actually an insult to women voters. Some officials in Senator McCain’s campaign must have figured that Governor Palin-a female-could attract votes from supporters of Hillary Clinton. Their assumption is the wrong answer. I have more comments:
· Once again, the Republicans failed to look at all of the talent in their party. Senators Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Olympia Snowe could have been good choices. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice was another option. For the record, Senator Joseph Lieberman was also under consideration, but certain members of the GOP would not allow Senator McCain to select him.
· Senator McCain ruined his prime argument against Senator Obama-the experience argument. Governor Palin has very little experience (a year and a half as governor of Alaska and a stint as mayor of a small Alaskan town). Governor Palin has no foreign policy experience. There is no way that any intelligent person can assert that Governor Palin will be “ready on Day One” to be Vice President. Also, Governor Palin is two years younger than Senator Obama.
· If Senator McCain becomes president in January 2009, he will be the oldest United States president to be inaugurated. Sarah Palin would literally be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
· Senator McCain is now trying to persuade us to vote for a woman who is still a stranger to him. Senator McCain had one once face-to-face encounter last February and a phone call with Governor Palin before he selected Governor Palin as his running mate.
· Governor Sarah Palin, the woman who will supposedly reform Washington, D.C., is herself under investigation by the Alaska State Legislature.
Senator McCain did not select a rich, middle aged White male as I predicted, but he could have done so much better. America can do so much better.
Posted by: Grandberry | September 15, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
MCCAIN AND PALIN: THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE!
Posted by: disgusted | September 15, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Senator McCain believes we are on the verge of “winning” in Iraq.
Even IF we stop the violence and establish a relatively stable government there, I don’t call that winning. We’ve lost over 4,000 service men and women forever. We’ve lost who knows how many trillions of dollars? We’ve lost much of our prestige around the world. All this to “win” a war that should never have been waged in the first place.
Senator McCain is apparently unaware that the people who actually attacked us on Sept. 11 are still at large. Is that winning? Senator McCain is apparently unaware the reason the Russians have been emboldened to move into Georgia is that our military has been decimated by Bush’s side-show in Iraq. Is losing an ally like Georgia to the totalitarian Russia winning? How many more “wins” such as that can we take?
Senator McCain has preconceived and reductionist answers to every question facing us today. He responds robotically, without thinking. Like Bush before him, he’s unable to grasp the complexities of the world around us. Haven’t we had enough of this “winning”?
Posted by: Cohoon | September 15, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
“I aint gonna stand for a darky muslim for presidint
White supremists for…
McCane Pailn 2008″
Wait don’t tell me….fifth year of junior college?
Posted by: Mack | September 15, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Remember the “Wright. Obama = Malcom “X”
Posted by: kennedy | September 15, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Along with lots of folks, I’ve been scratching my head over John McCain’s “maverick” choice of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate.
Obviously, he believes she’ll help him get elected. One of Palin’s strengths is her admirable record of cracking down on political corruption; even social progressives have got to admire that! The McCain campaign will certainly showcase this aspect of her political career and make the case that she’s accomplished more in her brief tenure than Barack Obama in his.
Sarah Palin’s reputation as a courageous reformer is, in my view, her strongest selling point to the electorate, and her greatest weakness once elected.
If McCain wins, she will be viewed by her colleagues not only as a negligible political featherweight (a la Dan Quayle), but also as an ambitious loose cannon whose reformer mentality threatens to expose their weaknesses. They’ll like her, but they won’t trust her. They’ll shoot moose with her, but they won’t ask her advice.
The naïve Palin will be easy prey for skillful manipulation by the Republican power elite. She’ll be marginalized within the administration and excluded from the innermost circles of decision-making when sensitive matters are discussed. She’ll be relegated to sitting quietly in the Senate chamber, dutifully presiding over proceedings as past vice presidents have done. She’ll be denied the opportunity to grow in office.
McCain is older than me, which makes him older than dirt. His medical history puts him at risk of incapacity, and it is likely Palin will have to act in McCain’s stead at some point. Is it wise to risk electing as president-potential one who is at best under-informed or (quite possibly) misinformed?
If you worry about Obama’s relative inexperience, please consider Palin’s. The potential for disaster is frightening. Maverick John McCain’s choice of Palin might have been short-term clever, but it was long-term reckless. I’m disappointed in his judgment.
Posted by: P.Thompson | September 15, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Bush came to office with a healthy economy, and he ruins it. McCain comes in with a ruined economy. I’m even afraid to imagine how bad it can get, all I know is I’m scared senseless–especially for children, our future. WAKE UP AMERICA! NO MCINSANE!!!
Posted by: do something | September 15, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
I’m sorry, but I don’t want Palin anywhere near the presidentcy. I was going to vote for McCain after Obama did not pick Hilary, but now there is no way. I think I know more about the goverment the she does. Biden will be a decent VP, and he knows about the government.
Posted by: Alex | September 15, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Biden who?
Posted by: Max | September 15, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
James, do you stay up late at night coming up with new words and phrases you can put “Mc” at the front of? Stop the fluff, and get the the issues, please.
Posted by: JoJo | September 15, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
As an undecided independent-voting Democrat, John McCain just made my mind up for me. Apparently he believes women will vote for any candidate based on gender alone and not on experience or the issues. His selection of Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate is obvious pandering that will insult large numbers of intelligent, independent thinking, female Democratic Hillary Clinton supporters.
Gov. Palin is obviously a talented individual, whose feistiness has won her support in ultraconservative, sparsely populated Alaska, but is she ready to be one heartbeat away from the most powerful position on the planet? No way!
Let’s not forget, Sen. McCain would be the oldest first-term president in history. He has selected a younger, female version of himself. All this selection and the debates to come will do is further emphasize the division between the right and left, when what we should all be doing is getting more in the middle.
On top of this, no one knows her. With only two months left to sell her the country it’s all going to all be fluff. If this is an example of Sen. McCain’s and his close advisers’ decision-making prowess, it’s Barack Obama all the way for me.
Posted by: JayBird | September 15, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Unbelievable that McCain would stoop so low as to appoint the most unqualified person ever to run for the second-highest office in the land. He wants it so badly, he would sacrifice our country to get it. I cannot believe the entire party is in favor of his choice. Who will run our country if something happens to McC?
Posted by: Vicki | September 15, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
This is stupid, I keep hearing this same as bush crap. Biden offers nothing useful. wow quotable, but still useless. They are willing to run against Palin, but Obama wants to run against some imaginary Bush/Palin ticket. Mccain should go with Obama is really John Kerry and run against Kerry, we can all start talking about swift boats again.
Posted by: Saint | September 15, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
I wonder if McCain knows he has less than 4 years to live. seems like everyone else has come to that conclusion. lets talk about what Obama has to do with Freddie and Fannie, why did they give him so much money and why didnt he propose any reforms, he must have had some relationship with them.
Posted by: Saint | September 15, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Biden dubs McCain Bush 44? Is this the same Biden that spoke in praise of McCain and would considering running with McCain as VP? This is a tired, beaten-dead-horss of a line from the Obama playbook.
Posted by: Patrick | September 15, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
f this story is true, it is the most important revelation of the election.
Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari has apparently revealed that the centerpiece of Barack Obama’s conversation with Iraqi leaders in July was his hope of delaying the draw-down of American military forces in Iraq. Zebari’s recounts that Obama “asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington.” Obama also reportedly insisted that Congress steer negotiations on the time-table of troops withdrawal, rather than the Bush administration, which he described as being in a “state of weakness and political confusion.”
Obama’s campaign has denied these accounts of his visit to Iraq. Such a private request for delayed troop reductions would run counter to Obama’s public statements on Iraq, in which he calls for an immediate withdrawal. Further, an attempt to subvert the executive branch would be contrary to established U.S. foreign policy.
If Zebari’s statements are discovered to be true, Obama would be guilty of the most unadulterated political profiteering and moral corruption in modern history. To seek electoral gain on the deception of a nation at war and the blood of American soldiers is nothing less than treasonous villainy – for which the offender ought to be tarred and feathered before being expelled from the country.
Posted by: Samantha | September 15, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
what is funny about this is that they are talking about how the everything is so mest up but if you look obama has had 401 million dollars donated to this camp, and he has spent 340 million so far.. dont you think that, that 340 million should have been spent of maybe getting the jobs back in the states or schools… that money could have gone to much better things then what he put it to.. ads, flyers, renting out places. how about getting rid of the monopoly in the military all those businesses that sell things to the military that charge $100.00 for a bolt or a screw….just one for a $100.00. that would save the government alot of money to fix that crap. and i love how everyone uses the word change to get into the white house. every president has changed the USA for the better or worse but everyone has changed it so why not think of something a little better or are the people to stupid to realize that its going to change no matter who is president.
Posted by: Meghann | September 15, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
America is suffering under a democratic congress. Why would you vote for a foreign born democratic presidential nominee?
Posted by: Arttie | September 15, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Biden, the MBNA poster child. Biden’s son is a lobbyist for MBNA. Biden received thousands of dollars from MBNA. Look who is calling the kettle black !
Biden is correct, Hillary is a better choice and Obama is not qualified to be president.
McCain-Palin-PUMA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: martha S. | September 15, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
I know a guy who works for the NY Post for a dozen years who says they made the story about Obama and Iraq up. He has a good paying job, so he keeps working for them but he is frequently disgusted with things they make up and print. NY POST IS A LIAR. END OF STORY.
Posted by: NYC_LOVER | September 15, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Hey Joe Biden, is this really party unity?
HILLARY CLINTON:I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.
BILL CLINTON:This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen,”
“I think that they played the race card on me. And we now know, from memos from the campaign and everything that they planned to do it all along,” Bill Clinton said in a telephone interview with WHYY’s Susan Phillips. “I was stating a fact, and it’s still a fact.”
SEN. BIDEN: John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain.
SEN BIDEN: Hillary may have been a better choice than me
Posted by: Badger | September 15, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Now, the democrats have ruined our economy, it’s time to get a real reformer. There is only one proven executive that has demonstrated she can clean up the mess. Gov. Palin has proved she can do the job. She straightened up the budget of the city of Wasilla, Alaska. She also put the state energy commission, back on track and saved the state billions. Finally, as govenor, the state budget was cut by 13% with increased services to the citizens of Alaska. Impressive !!!
I can see why the democrats are afraid, very afraid.
Gov. Palin – America’s answer for a better future !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Angie in Jacksonville | September 15, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Biden – didn’t you steal a speech from Dukakis? I quess you are like Obama.
Posted by: Baron | September 15, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Are women voters in America really that hungry for power that they will endorse Sarah Palin? She makes my flesh creep – that one-note voice. That limited script. That constant referral to her twin motifs – God and Our Boys. A carefully stage-managed series of network television interviews on ABC last week only reinforced my certainty that the election of this particular female would represent a backward step, not just for her sex, but for her country.
This is someone who didn’t apply for a passport until two years ago, who has only visited Canada – her next door neighbour – and Mexico, apart from one trip to Kuwait to visit the Army, with a stop-off in Germany on the way home to visit wounded soldiers. This, she told ABC’s Charlie Gibson, was the “trip of a lifetime”. Sarah Palin embodies all that is most insular about the American psyche. If you thought George Bush didn’t do foreign travel, welcome to the frighteningly xenophobic world of Mrs Palin.
-Obama Biden ’08
Posted by: I Evolved | September 15, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Gov. Palin received more votes for mayor of Wasilla, AK, than Biden recieved in his failed run as president, both times.
I’m not interested what a two time loser has to say about an honored statesman and military hero, and a distinguished governor with an 86% approval rating.
Biden – who cares ???????????
Posted by: Sherry 1969 | September 15, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
GOP vice presidential pick Gov. Sarah Palin seems to be winning the hearts of many Americans who say they can relate to her because she’s likable and folksy.
Let’s look back eight years: George W. Bush was voted into office by people who said they’d rather have a beer with him than with Al Gore. We know how well that worked out — we’re at war, in debt and dealing with an economic crisis. Meanwhile, Gore earned an Oscar and a Nobel Peace Prize for speaking out on the catastrophes of climate change (something Palin says she doesn’t even believe in).
What we need in the White House is not a buddy — or a best girlfriend — what we need are people who are smart, prescient, engaged in the larger world and who have thought deeply about all of the troubling issues facing this country.
It’s fine to like Sarah Palin. Call her up, invite her over for a mooseburger. But let’s not put her and Sen. John McCain in the White House.
Posted by: I Evolved | September 15, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
The current problem with housing loans reminds me of the problem we had during the Reagan administration. It was the savings-and-loan industry that was in trouble then. Two similarities are evident. There was no regulation, and the administration in the federal government was Republican. Republicans don’t believe in regulation of industry — their favorite saying is “they will do the right thing.”
Our economic system is based on greed, of which there are two kinds: good and bad. The system requires that people work to maximize the output of their business without harming others — good greed. We have seen over and over again the efforts of unregulated business harm others — bad greed. Ergo, in order for the system to work, there must be regulation. Industry is run by people, and people don’t always do the right thing.
We citizens don’t seem to learn, or maybe it’s money. Industries that don’t want to be regulated shovel gobs of money into the pockets of those who would regulate them.
But then there are people in industry who work to do the right thing. They don’t need regulation, and therein lies another problem. How do you regulate without alienating the good guys?
Posted by: RCM | September 15, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Now it’s getting creepy. Sarah Palin has a public policy position relative to the building of a pipeline in Alaska. She identifies her position on this issue with the will of God. She sees the war in Iraq as a task for our nation assigned to us by God. How many other dimensions of her leadership does she or will she identify with the so-called “will of God”? This is the lead-ing edge of fanaticism. We have here one pathway toward the birth of a theocratic fascism.
I remember, perhaps better than she, a passage from Isaiah: “My thoughts are not your thoughts; neither are my ways your ways, says the Lord.” Surely the Lord of all creation has not taken a posi-tion on how to transport gas and oil from one site to another.
Posted by: SPEER THROWER | September 15, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
How can even the most callous among neocons wave a barby doll in the air in an attempt to steal yet another election? Statistically speaking, there is a one-in-three probability that McCain will not endure to the end of one term as president. So, it would be . . . President Palin? Do the Republicans lust for power to the extent that they would risk turning our mlitary over to Ms. Palin, our foreign policy to Ms. Palin, our economy to Ms. Palin, our environment to Ms. Palin? Yup, the Republicans are capable of that — and they’re doing it. It is nothing short of shameful that this once great nation gives Mr. McCain and his ridiculous pick for veep one ounce of attention — let alone a single vote. Is our country that far gone?
Posted by: RodD | September 15, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Sarah Palin’s remark about a “hockey mom” being a pit bull with lipstick is her own gaffe and she should live with the backlash. Whether she was referring to the old joke about the difference between a woman with PMS and a pit bull, or she was comparing herself to a pit bull, the whole comment showed bad judgment.
Was she trying to say that she is aggressive, tenacious, and willing to fight? If so, she should have picked a better breed. Pit bulls are one of the most, if not THE most, hated/feared breed in the nation. She should have gone with the German shepherd. They have those same qualities but they also are beloved, focused, trustworthy, loyal, and popular, to just name a few traits.
In my opinion, Palin made her bed and now she needs to lie in it.
Posted by: S. Morrow | September 15, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
When is anyone with a conscience from the McCain campaign going to stand up against this “win at any cost” campaign? Where is the outrage from honest Republican commentators?
I’m afraid that it will all come after the fact, and someone will write a book bemoaning the fact that negative campaigning works. And one of the staffers who is coaching Sarah Palin now will tell us, when it is too late, that she really was unqualified, but they were afraid of losing their jobs.
Where is the integrity from anyone on the McCain campaign?
Posted by: I Evolved | September 15, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
McCAIN REPEATEDLY VOTED AGAINST VETERANS’ HEALTH BENEFITS
******* McCain Opposes the 21st Century GI Bill Because It Is Too Generous. McCain did not vote on the GI Bill that will provide better educational opportunities to veterans of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, paying full tuition at in-state schools and living expenses for those who have served at least three years since the 9/11 attacks. McCain said he opposes the bill because he thinks the generous benefits would “encourage more people to leave the military.” (S.Amdt. 4803 to H.R. 2642, Vote 137, 5/22/08; Chattanooga Times Free Press, 6/2/08; Boston Globe, 5/23/08; ABCNews.com, 5/26/08)
******* McCain Voted Against Increased Funding for Veterans’ Health Care. Although McCain told voters at a campaign rally that improving veterans’ health care was his top domestic priority, he voted against increasing funding for veterans’ health care in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. (Greenville News, 12/12/2007; S.Amdt. 2745 to S.C.R. 95, Vote 40, 3/10/04; Senate S.C.R. 18, Vote 55, 3/16/05; S.Amdt. 3007 to S.C.R. 83, Vote 41, 3/14/06; H.R. 1591, Vote 126, 3/29/07)
******* Opposed an Assured Funding Stream for Veterans’ Health Care. McCain opposed providing an assured funding stream for veterans’ health care, taking into account annual changes in veterans’ population and inflation. (S.Amdt. 3141 to S.C.R. 83, Vote 63, 3/16/06)
******* McCain Voted Against Adding More Than $400 Million for Veterans’ Care. McCain was one of 13 Republicans to vote against providing an additional $430 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs for outpatient care and treatment for veterans. (S.Amdt. 3642 to H.R. 4939, Vote 98, 4/26/06)
******* Voted Against Establishing a $1 Billion Trust Fund for Military Health Facilities. McCain voted against establishing a $1 billion trust fund to improve military health facilities by refusing to repeal tax cuts for those making more than $1 million a year. (S.Amdt. 2735 to S.Amdt. 2707 to H.R. 4297, Vote 7, 2/2/06)
Posted by: I Evolved | September 15, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
McCain supported Bush policies over 90% of the time….
1. Lied about WMD.
2. Unilaterally invaded a sovereign nation without provocation and justification. (BUSH DOCTRINE)
3. Lied during State of the Union speech re: Niger Uranium.
4. Responsible for pre-9/11 intelligence failures in White House, CIA, FBI.
5. Allowed 9-11 murderers to remain free while diverting precious military and financial resources to his vanity war in Iraq.
6. Lied about Saddam/bin Laden connection.
7. Turned Iraq into a terrorist breeding ground.
8. Lied about nation-building.
9. Opposed creation of 9-11 Commission and Homeland Security Department.
10. Disrespected and alienated the U.S. from French, German and other key allies.
11. Lied to Americans about the real cost of war.
12. Fostered an environment of torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.
13. Lined Halliburton’s pockets in Afghanistan and Iraq with fat no-bid contracts.
14. Under-manned and under-equipped our armed forces in Iraq, resulting in unnecessary death and injuries.
15. Ignored the nuclear build-up in both Iran and N.Korea; marginalized Kim Jong Il.
16. Shunned Kyoto Treaty.
17. Lied about effects of man-made pollutants on the environment to support corporate pals.
18. Lied about the insolvency of Social Security.
19. Gave huge cuts to the wealthiest taxpayers.
20. Lied about true cost of health care bill.
21. Lied about Free Trade stand.
22. Bitterly divided the nation along religious, party and sexual preference lines.
23. Guilty of numerous cronyism appointments (Homeland Security, Supreme Court, etc)
24. Rewarded failures of Condi Rice and other cronies with key promotions.
25. Dreadful energy policies lead to record gas and oil prices.
26. Responsible for the largest debt in U.S. history.
27. Colossal failure of preparedness, rescue and relief during Hurricane Katrina.
28. Fostered a culture of corruption among GOP and top leadership (Tom Delay, etc).
29. Allowed Donald Rumsfeld to keep job despite utter failure in Iraq.
30. Presided over the U.S.’s lowest popularity throughout the world.
31. Saw No Child Left Behind fail.
32. Lied last week about Iraqi troop strength during Saturday radio address. Directly contradicted by testimony given earlier in the week by Gen. Abizaid.
Posted by: I Evolved | September 15, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
IT’S LIKE THE TITANTIC… These are crucial and dire times in our history and yet we may be putting a corrupt, dishonest, Rigid, Fundamentalist Featherweight with no international experience a heart beat away from the presidency.
So No to Caribou Barbie and McSame
-Obama Palin ’08
Posted by: Yodjhert | September 15, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
McCain’s Own Words:
“I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated.”
McSame voted with Bush 91% of the Time… NO CHANGE THERE!
McSame employs 134 Lobyests on his campaign …. NO CHANGE THERE!
McSame has the soon to be indicted Carl Rove working for him …. NO CHANGE THERE!
Posted by: I Evolved | September 15, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
This is an exerpt from ABC news: “Under Obama, the wealthiest 1 percent of taxpayers, those making roughly $600,000 or more, would see their taxes go up on average by $93,709 in 2009, according to an analysis done by the Tax Policy Center, because Obama would begin implementing his tax changes even before the scheduled expiration of the Bush cuts.
Under McCain, those same taxpayers would see an average reduction of $48,860, reflecting in part additional cuts he is proposing.
By contrast, the bottom 20 percent of taxpayers, those with taxable income of roughly $19,000 per year or less, would see their taxes cut by an average of $567 under Obama’s program and $21 under McCain’s plan, the tax center estimates.
For the 20 percent of taxpayers right in the middle of the income scale, making roughly between $37,600 and $66,400, the tax break would be $1,118 under the Obama plan and $325 under the McCain plan in 2009, according to the analysis done by the tax center, a joint venture of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, two Washington think tanks.”
Posted by: I Evolved | September 15, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Now, I want to be clear and speak directly to those of you who LOVED that Palin interview. You’re an idiot. I mean that. This is not one of those cases where we’re going to agree to disagree. This isn’t one of those situations where we debate it passionately and then walk away thinking that the other guy is wrong but argued well. I’m not going to think of you as a thoughtful but misguided person with different ideas who still really cares about the country and the world. No, sorry, not this time. This time, if you watched those interview excerpts and weren’t scared out of your freakin’ mind, then you’re mentally ill, mentally disabled, or mentally disturbed. What you are NOT is responsible, informed, curious, thoughtful, mature, educated, empathetic, or remotely serious. I mean it.
But I like to think that anyone can change.
Stop voting for people you want to have a beer with. Stop voting for folksy. Stop voting for people who remind you of your neighbor. Stop voting for the ideologically intransigent, the staggeringly ignorant, and the blazingly incompetent.
Vote for someone smarter than you. Vote for someone who inspires you. Vote for someone who has not only traveled the world but who has also shown a deep understanding and compassion for it. The stakes are real and they’re terrifyingly high. This election matters. It matters. It really matters. Let me say that one more time. This. Really. Matters.
Posted by: seitzman | September 15, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Sarah Palin has a tanning bed installed in the Alaska Governor’s Mansion:
“The governor did have a tanning bed put in the Governor’s Mansion,” Roger Wetherell, chief communications officer of Alaska’s Department of Transportation and Public Facilities, confirmed to this newspaper. “It was done shortly after she took office [in early 2007] and moved into the mansion.”
Palin… All Vanity no substance
Posted by: I evolved | September 15, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
I heard Obama had gay sex with a guy named Larry Sinclair? Wow Obama the rod gobbler.
Posted by: Obama's Coke Dealer | September 15, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
vote for obama,someone who sells the words he reads off the teleprompter.it’s all a show. act one, scene three.time to change the message again. maybe something like “real change”you must be kidding. most people are not buying it.
Posted by: harold l | September 15, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
IT’S LIKE THE TITANIC. The U.S. is like that glorious, opulent, fabulous sinking ship. No one wants to believe that we could really go down. We’ve been so well off for so long. Instead of facing the terrifying reality of our plummeting economy, McCain-Palin supporters are like the Titanic guests who preferred to stay at the party, turn up the music and dance, pretending that they weren’t moments away from disaster.
We have George W. Bush’s 8 years of failed trickle-down economics to thank for our ruined economy. Though it’s not been ruined for himself and his business buddies who got what they wanted in Iraq. funny how the richer some folks got these past eight years, the poorer others got. G.W. Bush has shrunk our middle class and ballooned out the amount of poor people in the U.S. There’s been no trickle; just some super-richies who are growing their piles of $.
McCain plans to continue down Bush’s economic road. He has a record of voting with Bush on the issues–91% of the time. He has many Bush loyalists working on his campaign and waiting for their places in the McCain administration.
How can U.S. citizens allow this country to sink further down? This is the titanic, people. This is a great country that is truly going down. It takes courage to recognize a disaster coming our way. It might be easier for some to cling to old, familiar ways, but this is the time for something new, something smarter than what got us in this mess.
Posted by: HeadB | September 15, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Community Organizer
“Democrats are better for the economy. It’s an irrefutable fact.” Did you not see Ronald Reagan!?!?! He created 16 MILLION JOBS! Good luck copying that, Jimmy Carter, and after all that prosperity, it’s hard to make many more jobs.
Posted by: patriot1812 | September 16, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
seitzman: If I want to vote for somebody smarter than me, why should I vote for Obama?
Posted by: patriot1812 | September 16, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Joe, go back into your cave….you didn’t do anything for us when you were my Senator.
Posted by: kennedy | September 16, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
I Evolved- why change the presidency? CHANGE THE CONGRESS. The congress makes the laws, and even if GWB wanted to make a national watermelon month, he could not without a supportive congress. P.S. While an energy crises,terrorism crises, and hurricane/ humanitarian crises face the nation, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have actually managed to make a national watermelon month. So, while your eyes goggle at the price at the pump, you can take solace in the fact that it is Watermelon Month.
Posted by: patriot1812 | September 16, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Paige- yes you, way up there, now VLADIMIR PUTIN has become a reliable source of info?!?! Think about his interests. McCain gets elected? His nation has to deal with someone who will draw the line and keep Russia from taking over small, eastern european countries. If Obama is elected? Putin’s henchman have peace talks while Georgians are massacred, and Russia takes over the world, just like Lenin and Stalin wanted in the first place. Now, who do you think he wants to win? Who do you think he is willing to lie and decieve to get in? If I was Putin, if I heard that BO had been elected, I would call my generals to a council of war immediately.
Posted by: patriot1812 | September 16, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
The house and senate run this country. And both have been controlled by Democrats! And yes, they have not minded the store. As Bill Cosby would say ”come on people!” Wake Up! and educate yourself on why the rich in your party are counting on you not knowing the truth! Obama is not Black but he is Wright! ha HELLO! Born and raised in Hawaii by a white grandmother, and his father is Muslim. His first cousin (whom is one of his biggest supporters) commits genecide to this day, in Kenya! Not to mention his the Cooke Co and his nice friends in Chicago. The McSame is so old. Do you people have anything else? Now would be a good time. The polls are not buying it. Now I fear Obama and Osama are the same. That is something to fear when you think that will be protecting our children. The only man who has truly seen both sides is McCain and he is not afraid to admit it. And Sarah magnifies this belief. Neither is scared of their counter party or their own party. I love it! All the records speak mfor themselves! Read them! Are you serious when you talk about her experience? Remember the Top Dog should have the experience not the second runner. I know the left are upset they didn’t find her first! The simple fact that people so ignorant as Michael Moore, P-diddy, etc, ,decided my vote. McCain / Palin all the way! We need a woman in the White House who has always been proud of her country!
Posted by: Marine Mom | September 16, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
The GOP talking point of choice these days is to blame everything on the Democratically controlled Congress… We here is reality… you know the real world know the truth…. The truth is that the Dems have not been able to do much because they don’t have a large enough majority and get filibustered and also vetoed by the executive branch… the reason our country is in the shitter is due to the Bush 8 year disaster which McCain will be a sequel of. Just because Rush thinks for you doesn’t make it right dittoheads
Obama -Biden -08
Posted by: sleepWaker | September 16, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Bush is a walking, talking,stinking “A” Hole. And McBUSH, is his sock puppet.
Posted by: P-51 jock | September 16, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Bill Cosby supports Obama
Posted by: sleepWaker | September 16, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Marine Mom do you also believe in Creationism??? Cause your reasoning is that of a child… a dumb one at that
Posted by: sleepWaker | September 16, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
To I-EVOLVED, No you have not. And you LIED 32 times in this post. All your demos voted for the war too but Bush didn’t cut and run when the going got tough. They all beleived WMD because they all had same info. (Obama Osama did not of course, cause he was never there)Get educated. Don’t hate her just because she is perfect! (honest, real and has actually accomplished something besides a bunch of black votes in the getto for herself!) balanced a city and state budget. Cut hidden earmarks over 250 million. With open earmarks she bettered her state for her people.That is what real community leaders do!
Posted by: Marine Mom | September 16, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Marine Mom-
You’re ignorant, and I really don’t feel bad for saying that. You’re spitting up talking points, and I would be shocked if you had ANY clue about the real issues at hand. Yeah, she’s real, all right. She’s another one of these “vote for us because I’m average” clowns who think that because she’s “oh boy, just like ME!” that we should cast our vote that way. As far as honest, I thnk you and I both know that’s a crock. You can admit it, we all know it.
And how the f*** is getting earmarks different from those so-called “black ghetto votes for himself”?! Aside from being not-so-closet racist, that comment is pure bulls*** in its simplest form.
What REALLY bugs me is that un-informed (or willingly misinformed” morons like Marine Mom are going to decide the future of this country!
Posted by: Henderson | September 16, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
I think McBush’s, cancer is getting bigger his head and his mouth look bigger.He wont make it 4 years..And the Bimbo, from Alaska, will be Bush-44 in a bra and panties. GOD HELP US….
Posted by: P-51 jock | September 16, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Reaganfan, we may as well stop reading the nonsense and lack of education. Most people don’t realize that Bush is not responsible for the issues at hand since he has VETO power and we do have Demos. controlling Congress. They are also not aware that both McCain & Obama have voted the same when it comes to Education, more funds for the Head Start programs and the Higher Education Bill. Obama has voted for SS & medical benefits for illegal immigrants where McCain has voted against this. We may all lose our SS benefits if this happens.Just like this year 5 million people came forward to receive the tax stimulus refund of $700 after not filing taxes. Obama also voted for partial-birth abortion and embryonic stem cell research. Most of you don’t care that we are safer now than ever & Bush’s Patriot Act has prevented 100′s of terrorist attacks while Clinton was in office, he closed half of the Military bases, froze Military pay, and let terrorists attack us without even trying to capture Bin Ladin when he had the chance in 1998. Barack’s Father & Step Father were both Radical Muslims, his pastor of 20 years, Rev. Wright taught racism. He attacks all his opponents personally but refuses to allow questions of his Assoc. He even attacked Hillary’s campaign funds and currently his funds come from Lobbyist, Media, Bill Gates and Hollywood ties. Who’s QUESTIONABLE!!!
Posted by: gloriaisis1 | September 16, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
Ievolved..You must not know or have Military in your family. 101st Air. was present in Iraq when Media announced to the World that UN Inspectors were coming to inspect WMD. That is when all Military stationed there witnessed 100′s of Semi’s and planes leave Afghan. & Iraq and go into Syria & Turkey. This was never allowed by the Govts in the past. Military there could do nothing about it. No orders to stop them, no approval for WAR then. Media puts Military at risk & only lets the American People see what they want them to see. Just like this crazy blog. Be thankful, they protect your freedom while you sit here & criticize McCain who almost gave up his LIFE for people like you. You will never understand unless you go to WAR or witness a terrorist attack. Most people have forgotten 9/11 & the advances we have made on the WAR on TERROR!! Vote for Obama & expect to have Military spending cut & protect yourself! Read Chicago Tribune to get the facts on the huge increase in taxes in Illinois since Obama was elected & also Education Funding has not improved since in office.!!!
Posted by: gloriaisis1 | September 16, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
I guess Obama’s voting record for 178 days of “VOTING PRESENT” is CHANGE to you. Maybe you’re one of the hundreds of Special Interest Groups, Lobbyist, Media, Hollywood or even part of the Teachers Unions that think voting Democrat will better the World!! That is not the case any longer…Since Jimmy Carter that hasn’t been the case.In Obama’s case he hasn’t improved Illinois or even followed through on his promises 3 years ago! He has not even done his taxes for 2007 and the last 6 years, he has contributed less than 3% to Charity, in comparison to McCain giving 26% of his income to Charity. Obama doesn’t even help his half brother in Africa who makes $1 per month!! How can he help our Country?!!
Posted by: gloriaisis1 | September 16, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am
By his own admission Biden admits he is not qualified to be VP.
Posted by: janephil | September 16, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
History will be made with a woman in the White House and not an African muslim man who is strongly antisemitic.
Posted by: janephil | September 16, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
Obama’s efforts to register felons
This is a story that’s been largely ignored by members of the mainstream media, but there is some pretty good evidence that Team Obama is actively targeting former felons in their voter registration efforts.
This effort makes sense for Obama politically if he can keep it quiet. There’s little doubt that former felons would lean heavily in his direction. The problem is, well, it’s a problem if the public finds out about it. So far the mainstream media have done their party by not covering this story.
Yesterday we talked about The New York Times article that admitted Obama’s camp has received briefings from the left-wing experts on registering felons. Why would Obama want these briefings if they weren’t interested in the subject?
One Obama campaign office had a sign in the window saying “Felons Can Vote” before they wisely removed it. And it’s clear that some of Obama’s allies are busy registering felons to vote for him.
This would be a good story if someone would do a little digging and find out if there’s even more to it, e.g. the extent of Obama’s efforts to register felons.
Posted by: Badger | September 16, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am
How can anyone take what Biden says about McCain seriously? It was only a few short months ago that he was PRAISING McCain. And people are buying what he says NOW????? Come on!
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 16, 2008, 6:32 am 6:32 am
Coming from the really ugly mouth of a really ugly guy – it means nothing. Why is this guy even on the Democratic ticket? He’s been snarking around Washington way too long. I remember his snarky remarks when Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was appointed to the court. Biden – nothing there that is remotely likeable.
Posted by: The Snark | September 16, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am
The “Community Organizer” and
the “Plagerist” are going down in
flames!
The McCain/Palin Landslide has begun!
Posted by: reaganfan | September 16, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
I pity American, i pity the next 4yrs, i wonderd what it will look like if MCCAIN PALIN finally came to power, American will beg for bread soon. i am not American but i love GREAT USA !! Please american put party diffrences and race apart and chose a wise and acceptable leader Think of ur future dont think of more wars. good luck as you chose ur leader but remainber both friends and enemy are watching you some will want you to do one more mistake so that Great American will become history.
Posted by: iloghalu | September 16, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
… and it goes on…
Posted by: Me | September 16, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
It would be interesting to see McCain in a ‘Bush 69′ with Palin.
Posted by: UAE Calling | September 17, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Joe “The Rottweiller” Biden goes after McLiar, and doesn’t even bother with the lame pitbull smeared with lipstick. Go get em Joe!
Posted by: John | September 18, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Just say NO to McBush 44! Time to trim the White House garden … NO MORE BUSHES PLEASE!
Posted by: Andrew | September 18, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am