Biden: McCain Has Had an ‘Epiphany’

deregulation = Phil Gramm.
not trying to spam but jeesh…
the guy who wrote Mccain’s economic platform.
the same guy who received 750k last year alone to fight for deregulation in the banking sector.
again how many times can it be said
Same team
same tactics
same outcome
9th year
throw these bums out.

All we have to do is look at the income the MCBUSHES and the Bushes have when it comes to a normal persons income they have not a clue what it is to be poor or middle class or Mcbush would not have put a $5,000,000 yealy income tag for middle class and he doesn’t have dementia???? War, is number 1 in my book why should some shumk die so Bushes oil cronies can have the oil they need oh thats right that was his promise to them to get him elected.

thanks bush mccain and the republicans for this economic crisis, oh and not only just an economic crisis but an economic crisis in war time
LOL thats when our economy should be booming…

OBAMA/BIDEN = CHANGE
McCain/Palin = CHUMP CHANGE

Joe Biden is SMART, he’s a good guy, and he so very obviously cares about the American people. It is silly and tragic that people are comparing him to Palin in terms of how she has helped the Republican ticket. Biden’s service to this country is worth 20 Sarh Palins and people ought to know it.

I am waiting for a Gibson/Biden interview to follow the grilling of Sarah Palin. Where are you, Charlie?

From the man who said Obama wasn’t ready to be president. Very funny, Joe.

karrona,
oh really, obama pioneered the surge and mccain followed? lol
obama has NO plans other than generalities that he later takes back. 28% capital gain, then 25% then 20%.

Consider this…..
The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.
Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow Democrats, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto.
The fiscal and economic mess we are in falls squarely on Congress….

The economy’s still strong, right John? Oh, now it’s in crisis, right John?
Spinning like a weathervane.
McCAIN AIN’T GOT IT CAUSE McCAIN DON’T GET IT.

JA, Obama’s plan was on his website for 60 days while Graham was still writing McCain’s. Obama’s plan is simple, change the tax structure to support the middle class. To support increase in middle class wage growth to offset the rises in costs of living.
What is McCain’s plan? Please tell me. I’ve been in these stupid forums for 2 weeks now asking any McCain supporter to present his economic plan and to date, nada. Nothing!
Any way you cut it, McCain’s connection to Mr. Whiner is going to be what sinks McTrickdown’s campaign.

McCain and Palin remind me of Kermit and Miss Piggy!

Obama/Pelsoi/Biden/Reid 08 Oh yes, that’s real change.

For YEARS, author and political scientist Kevin Phillips (a Republican, no less)has been predicting the crash that has now started. He points out that when a country’s economic system becomes based on speculation instead of manufacturing, it leads inevitably to the country’s decline and loss of global dominance. It was true of ancient Rome, Spain, the Netherlands,Great Britain, each in its turn. Our present situation was foreseeable, to anyone who cared to think about it. Instead, the Republican philosophy of deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy was put forth as a recipe for boosting prosperity. Tragically, many ill-informed voters bought the snake oil, and here we are. We cannot afford to believe McCain’s assurances that he now favors regulation of the financial industry and is an agent of change; on the contrary, he has said that he is “fundamentally a deregulator”. In my opinion, McCain is fundamentally a cynical pol who will say whatever he needs to get elected. We must not make that mistake.
That said, if Obama is elected, it remains to be seen whether he can turn our economy around. The situation may not be retrievable. I’m confident that he will make his best effort. My greatest fear is that a failure to change conditions quickly will encourage extremist demagogues, leading to election of alternating leftist/rightist administrations, and resulting political instability. This has happened in more countries than I can count, and lives have been lost. I pray that it will not come to this.

Nothing you say here is going to change anyone’s opinions. If you wonder why the economy is bad it’s because we are all blogging instead of working. Now get back to work!

Glad to see that Biden made a speech. I was beginning to think he was MIA. Any one considering voting for Obama should take a good long look at his past life – not the life he writes fictitiously about in his books, but his REAL life. Just for openers: Obama says he was never a Muslim. Actually he was registered as a Muslim in Illinois until he was 31 years old. He changed his registration to Catholic at Michelle’s insistence so that he could run for office.

People who want to vote for McCain obviously don’t let little things like FACTS get in their way. It has been shown over and over again that the majority of Republicans vote against their own self interest when they vote republican because in fact most republicans aren’t multimillionaires even though that is who the party serves. Getting people to vote against their best interest using FEAR has always been the republican’s genius. Look out the commies are coming–Palin can see them up there in Alaska! Look out Obama is a muslim who is going to raise everyone’s taxes, a heathen, a baby eater! Somehow it seems to work. And when it doesn’t, then voter suppression certainly does.

Republicans have short memories. They have controlled the Congress 28 out of the last 28 years and the Presidency for the past 7 1/2 years. And, the Senate is tied at 49-49 among Dems and Repubs. Anyone who has a shred of intelligence would have to put the economic and policy shambles squarely in the hands of the REPUBLICANS and the lobbyists that support them! This country doesn’t work without a strong middle class. Republican largess strongly favors the wealthy who aren’t suffering.

Sorry Sen. Biden,
Again you sir, are being misleading.
In fact, as you well know, the The Regulatory Oversight Committee who oversee the SEC and regulates Lenders is directly controlled by our ‘DEMOCRATIC’ Congress.
The Regulators, in fact, turned a “blind eye” away from sub-prime lending practices. Fannie May, Freddie Mack, Lynch, and Leyman all were casualties as a direct result.
Why did the Democratic controlled Regulators allow this ‘Flip this house, get rich speculation’ out of control sub prime lending fiasco to occur for the last 2 years?
You tell me. In fact mr. Biden, perhaps you should explain to the American People why this committee did not do their job?
Americans are a great deal smarter than you and Obama seem to think we are. So quit trying to ‘SPIN US’ with misinformation, and disinformation.
It’s really insulting for you to think we are all so gullable.
All we have heard from Obama/Biden in the last 30 days are “Wag the Dog” SPIN TACTICS.
This has got to embarrassing to you as well,.. as it is making you look foolish. The Global internet, and technology revolution has made SPIN tactics obsolete. Wake up Joe, it’s 2008.
You seem to be a good man at heart Sen. Biden,… don’t let Obama’s hunger for power destroy your values.

we’re a nation of whiners! Why if you make less than $5M you aren’t a friend of mine.
What? You don’t have an oil well in your back-yard? You’re not a friend of mine.
What we need now is a good ‘ol picture of Cheney, McSame, Bush, Phil and ‘Kenny Boy’ from the ‘ol days. That is the crux of ‘trickle down’ economics.
Do you remember the picture of the David ice sculpture at the Enron party? That is what RNC thinks of hard working, lunch pail middle-class Americans.
Why would anyone vote for these people when they do NOT have the best interests of the American people as a priority?
Read these bio’s and search for ‘deregulation’ and there you go. It was not Wall Street, it was the leaders of the elite RNC inner-circle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Gramm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Lay

I am sorry for “whining” but these are hard economic times. Please, Phil Gramm, just go away!

Obama has resorted to calling anyone who criticizes him a liar….how sad!

It seems to me that the Republicans have had their chance and they have failed miserably. Time to give the Democrats a go.

McCain is “rolling out ideas” that are the same as the Bush economic policies!
McCain has no new ideas, he just wants to continue on our current route.
McCain has reworded his typical Republican policies, smacked a bow on ‘em, and called them “Change”.
NEWSFLASH–
MCCAIN IS A REPUBLICAN.
REPUBLICANS GOT US INTO THIS MESS.
MCCAIN IS NOT A DIFFERENT KIND OF REPUBLICAN.
HE AND HIS POLICY IDEAS ARE TYPICAL REPUBLICAN IDEAS!
So if you like the Republican leadership of the last 8 years, vote McCain.
I say, let’s give the other party a chance to lead America. Republicans have screwed us.

Joe Biden also had his own epiphany.
Biden strongly supported invading Iraq, but he later “saw the light”, and reversed himself…. half a trillion dollars and 4,500 lives too late.
Biden’s vaunted “experience” did not prevent him from being duped by the Bush/Cheney pre-war propaganda.
Obama threw away his primary advantage by picking a running mate who was fooled into voting for the war on very flimsy pretexts. Since both McCain and Biden voted to invade Iraq, Obama cannot now play that powerful card against McCain.
Obama rejected Hillary and her followers and clever McCain is siphoning off the “scorned woman” vote.
One more blunder of that magnituda and Obama will be toast.

Biden is so embarrassing. Why do they let him talk? Yesterday he asked a crippled guy on a wheelchair to get up so people can see you. And then he said “Oh God. What am I talking about?” Biden admits that he is a buffoon and has no idea what he is talking about.

Phillis Said:
“Biden is a honorable servant.
, but Obama is irrelevant. No experience. No record. All talk, no action. He is pro abortion and pro gay marriage and he says he is a Christian?
It appears God’s laws are more important to John Mccain than his rival
Barack Obama.”
Being a Christian is following the example of Christ. Christ never spoke a word about being gay or abortions. Those are men’s laws.
And besides, isn’t the foundation of “God’s Law” Free Will, the will to chose. Choice. Government doesn’t have the right to take away what God gives us. Choice. Free Will. Not to mention, this country is founded on the principle of Seperation of Church and State, so Christians and gays alike could escape the tyrany of people (like you Phillis) who would try to use “Gods Laws” to hurt and oppress each other.
People like McCain prey on ignorant backwater people who are too scared to open their eyes and accept that maybe there is a bigger world out there than the narrow minded culture taught to them by their parents.
Obama will do a great job, he is in touch with the world around him and surrounds himself with good, intelligent people.
Palin was such an obvious grab for the women’s vote its disgusting. Yes, its ultimately a game to get elected, but really… how base and stupid can voters be to fall for that, she is obviously not the most qualified for the job. Mccain wants power for powers sake, so he can line his friends pockets, make sure his family is taken care of for generations to come, and control how his investments will turn out, its disgusting and its exactly what the Bush family has done and Mccain will do.
Obama wants to make a difference, and that is reflected in his choice of Joe for vice president, a man who has served this country all his life and has written countless books about topics that actually matter.

The tax increases on the wealthy will go toward the building of infrastructure in this country, i.e. JOBS!

in response to this inane comment — ‘Obama rejected Hillary and her followers and clever McCain is siphoning off the “scorned woman” vote’…:
any woman who truly supported hillary’s run for president would RESPECT her enough NOT TO VOTE FOR SARAH PALIN. these two women are as different as night and day… they are only alike in that they are female.
please THINK very hard before you even dare compare the two.
and think even harder before calling mccain CLEVER

It’s strange how these dems forget to mention the 8 years of Clinton/Gore. Robert Reish the Labor Secretary during Clinton/Gore said it was the Clinton administration and Robert Reuben that was to blame for the de-regulation of the banking system that caused all of this. Also the fact that the democrats in congress were using Freddie, and Fannie, for their own BIG HUGE slush fund.

Mccain is so ignorant of what’s going on. He has NO IDEA. Our banking systems are in worse shape than they were since the GREAT DEPRESSION, when children were begging and skimping for scraps of meat in the streets to survive.
Is that the future you want for your kids? If yes, vote mccain and continue us on Bush’s path to the destruction of America. WAKE UP PEOPLE, we must elect Obama and return us to the prosperity we had under Clinton.

**quote Jhonny:
THAT is what started all this. They are ALL responsible. McCain- Obama- they are BOTH the SAME.
***
Too true, and how sad. What hope is there for this country when both parties are out of touch.

I called it. McCain will roll out plans while Obama-Biden will point fingers. Posted by: JA | Sep 16, 2008 11:23:12 AM
I’m flabberghasted that you McClones come to threads like this and continue to try to print your lies and distractions. Are you not of this earth? On Earth, all I’ve seen come out of the McCain campaign are lies and smears and fingerpointing. The McCain/Palin lies finally are being talked about and documented. All you have to do is a simple internet search to find them. Reported by real news agencies. Obama runs a campaign on issues. Issues are what this campaign should be about. Not the lies and perversions of the republican party.
If you really put country first, you’ll vote for Obama.

…was the Clinton administration and Robert Reuben that was to blame for the de-regulation…
Posted by: Phil | Sep 16, 2008 3:50:49 PM
Actually, Phil, it was Ronald Reagan who deregulated everything. So, in fact, if we’re going to go back in time to trace where today’s financial problems began, all paths lead to Ronald Reagan and the republicans.

The tax increases on the wealthy will go toward the building of infrastructure in this country, i.e. JOBS!
Posted by: cincyr | Sep 16, 2008 2:56:01 PM
Really? Then how come after 8 years of the rich getting tax cuts and getting richer, all our jobs are being sent oversees and our unemployment rate is higher than it has ever been?
How exactly have we benefitted as a country from giving fat cats a free ride? I’ll tell you how. We haven’t benefitted from it at all. Greedy people don’t share. It’s time for America to wake up.
Vote for Obama if you want to get this country back on track.

all tru.
I am sick of McCain’s baby talking. Look, he know NOTHING in this World, still living the life Of Vietnam Hero , forgettingwhere he is and what for.
Old ruin, give me a break and GET OUT.

an ‘Epiphany’?
what.. he farted again?

In the end? When all is said and done, GW Bush will be *nothing* more than just a *grease* *spot* on the pages of history.

Oh Joe… if you could a give speech that wasn’t riddled with errors, I could take a break from blogging.
http://itsalldicta.blogspot.com/2008/09/clearing-up-few-misstatements.html
The bottom line: everyone is calling “regulation!” from the rafters.
In a few years, people will wonder where our options as consumers went and why everything we buy is labeled with a “Approved by Government” sticker.

I think you all lack a little in the insight and intelligence departments. Neither candidiate will offer us anything new. Just re-hashed, recycled ideas of the past. And we need to stop spending taxpayer dollars bailing out wall street. We are literally rewarding failure. And no one wants to talk about the Federal reserve. Nobody asks why an unelected, elitist group with absolutley no Congressional oversight can just give away $85 Billion dollars of your money wihtout even asking a soul. Then pledge to just print more money if they have to. Forget the fact that it will devalue our currency.
But we are too busy focusing on “Palin’s lies” or Biden’s quasi socialist agenda. Anyone can say anything about a candidate in a blog, as long as you say it first. And everyone will believe it’s true, no matter how you refute it. No of you can see past your own political agenda, or even formulate a logical thought. Your too busy preaching to your respective choirs and regurgitating talking points.
Even if the Dem’s win this one, nothing will change.

I am so TIRED of the media being so freaking in the TANK for Obama. And this is supposed to be a “News” organisation. This WHOLE friggin article is a perfect example. Has Obama said JACK about what he plans to do abt it? NOT. Oh and lets not blame Barney Frank. Or congress. Just remember this:
McCain went back to Washington VOLUNTARILY, and Obama had to be CALLED back.