Biden Outlines Palin Game Plan

On November 5, Team Obama will have to face the reality of making one fundamental BAD DECISION: the selection of Joe Biden over Hillary Clinton! Obama LOST his banner of change when he picked a senator who has been in Washington just about as long as Obama has been on earth. When he made that decision, his banner of ‘Change You Can Believe In’ flew out the window! All of a sudden, their tag used against McCain — “More of the Same” — became applicable to Obama – Biden. Obama will regret not selecting Hillary! (Think that he already does!!)

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Obama hired the best vp to assist him as President
that’s called brains and what we have been lacking for 8 years in washington.

Why is McCain’s “Little Eskimo” hiding from the press? Doesn’t that bother some voters?

Obama is not man enough to win this election!
You will be governed by a women, so put your big girl panties on and get used to it!

Biden = 35 years of hubris
Obama = corrupt Chicago mob’s lap dog
McCain = 26 years of hubris
Palin = America’s best chance for real change.

I do not understand why people are not interested in the big issues such as health care, the ecoonomy, the war, the environment. Maybe lots of people enjoy living without health care, good jobs, affordable college educations, etc. What is happening to us?

Gov. Palin does not believe that humans have any influence on global warming, and does believe that evolution is “just a theory.”
She also believes that abortion should be illegal for a twelve-year-old who has been violently raped by her uncle and becomes pregnant.
This isn’t a wacko rant – she’s on record. Illegal INCLUDING cases of incest and rape.
This has nothing to do with her history or inexperience, and certainly nothing to do with her gender. Her policies are simply foolish and dangerous and would be terrible for all of us.
And she would very likely become president if John McCain does. Come on, people, be wiser than that. The country would be deeply damaged by this kind of leadership.
As for McCain, here’s what you need to know: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html

Dear Rural Americans– I am one too and don’t believe for one second that Palin is the best chance for real change– I’m not that stupid and if you are than you get what you deserve. Obama/Biden ’08
P.S. Palin has Bush’s old speech writer. I guess you like Bush too!
ML

Biden can say whatever, he is old politics and does not fit the mode of the changling. I think obama is a snake in the grass. He is totally detached from anything truly American. His and the not proud Michelle’s patriotism have always been and still are in question. His banner is to say anything at anytime to anyone that he feels will get him a vote. I truly believe that he and Michelle are closet racist that do want to damn the traditional American values and create a socialist overbearing republic from our free, great and always has been great nation. Of which McCain supporters have always been proud. The man is a total narcissist with an ego the size of Africa, to which he covets his innermost feelings. How could anyone be proud of the obamas when they are only just now proud of America? Proud now because they think they have fooled enough people to take over the nation and remodel it into their twisted vision of big brother on steroids. I could never trust a man who paints his own egotistical logo over our beloved American Flag. Obama has ascended past the politician title and thinks himself a king among men. He has more questionable acquaintances, partners and MENTORS in his past than Al Capone. None of which are proud of America. But they love living fat off the land. You can’t have it both ways. Convenient patriotism is not an American sentiment.
God Bless McCain and Palin for they are the only hope for this nation.

That was a whole lot of nothing. Congrats Biden, you fit in well with Barack. All hot air.

Sarah Palin tries to intimidate people. She has used her position time and time again to threaten jobs when people don’t see things her way.
I cannot believe how she is trying to make everything comment sexist. Republicans will do anything to win an election including lie and distort their record as well as their opponents record. This feels like “00″ and “04″ all over again but worse.

You Hillary seriously need to get your head in the game. If she had gotten the nomination, the democrats would have easily lost in november for the same reason Al Gore lost in 2000. The GOP would have no trouble uniting against her. She is a divisive figure. In addition to that, by putting her own self-interests in front of that of the party by continuing to seek the nomination after it was statistically impossible for her to get it, SHE split the party. If Obama loses in November, that will be a major contributing factor.
So now you have these ‘PUMAS’ that plan to vote out of spite instead of voting on the issues… let’s say that works and McCain gets elected.. do you really think there will not be a backlash in 2012, assuming the country could stand 4 more years of neocon rule?

America doesn’t need the Mayor of South Park to be our Vice President.

Palin is no joke. there are somo idiots out there who will vote for her just because she is a white woman.

Of course Biden does not want to discuss charactor. The same reason Obama does not like to talk about it. Both have very questionable associations and neither has done much in their political life. What has Biden done in his many years in Washington except become more corrupt then he was when he stole other peoples writing in law school?
what issues has Obama-Biden covered? I hear a lot of talk, but no solutions. Raising taxes is not the answer. Stealing money from the people that work to give it to the people that do not is not a solution. Obama does not know anything about running an economy. He has never managed finances. He IS good at wasting money and giving it to radical groups, but nothing that benefits the larger population.
The fact remains that it is scary that we are forced to pick between Mccain and Obama. Neither are the best or brightest, but McCain has a better record and the country is much safer with him at the helm then someone who will simpathize with terrorist claim it IS America’s fault.

No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. Give the Republicans credit. Sarah Palin was a stroke of sheer genius straight out of Hollywood. Richard Gere, in Chicago, could hardly have done it better. “We’re going to razzle dazzle them.” The puppeteer laughs, the puppets all dance.

Vote the issues people…jeez. This woman has a history of being a liar, left her town 22 million dollars in debt and has spent more of Alaskan money than any other governor. Shen mentions the Bridge to Nowhere, but forgets to mention that Alaska did actually keep the money. Wake up people…this womans is George bush in female form. How can you support someone that won’t even take questions from the press.

Yeah M/P 08, I know what you mean, I could never vote for a man that voted against MLK Holiday for 16 years (Mr. McCain). That sounds like someone who is really trying to unite the country and uphold civil rights and unity— NOT. McCain has documented proof of racism.
Your alligation is just your silly ranting opinion. Do you suppose Obama is racist against his white side or black side?

The real story here is that Obama has to fight at all. This election is supposed to be the best environment Democrats have ever had…and they’re still doing badly! polls are shifting back and forth, electoral states show a statistical tie, and McCain has barely started…
And Obama/Biden are already huffing, puffing, and slinging mud faster than they can think. Why can’t Obama close the deal? He couldn’t do it with Clinton (and needed the superdelegates to bail him out) and he’s showing he cannot do it with McCain.
He had his chances to make the moves that really would have made this campaign easy. He passed them up because of his hurt ego. This is Obama’s campaign to lose…and he’s losing it.
Thank God I didn’t vote for him.

“Palin = America’s best chance for real change.”
What change, taking polar bears off the endagered species list? Hunting wolves from airplanes? If you were looking at any facts, the facts are that her policies are EXACTLEY like Bush’s, but EVEN MORE EXTREME!

The liberal wing of the democratic party is going to cost the party another national election. The moderates have no voice? No influence? I can’t vote for Obama – scant experience, socialist tendancies.

What Obama and the Democratic campaign seem to have forgotten is that elections are never won or lost on the issues – they are won and lost by how well the candidates resonate with the American people. People vote with their gut for the candidate they connect with the best, and by choosing Biden, Obama created a ticket that doesn’t represent change, nor does it inspire the American people with any kind of real energy or vibrancy. The tide has turned and the Obama will slowly but steadily lose support from now until the election.

Funny how he wants to point fingers at what Sarah Palin will do, meanwhile HE’S taking the first personal jabs at her. Anyone else notice this? How anyone can vote for someone like Obama who supports the killing of partially born babies – well – God have mercy on their souls. They are more concerned with having a black president and “saving” the planet than they are with the lives of our children. God have mercy on America.

Sorry Palin didn’t go to Harvard. That liberal elitist attitude is crashing through. The pedigree of the diploma is your gauage of intelligence?? Then I’m sure you’ve been touting the supreme intellect of our current president?

Correction “rural americans”
Palin = Successful earmark expert
Sarah Palin represents the things we as a country want to move away from. That is, the federal government favoring a state, however small in population because they have a powerful senator who knows how to steer money to that state.
There are fewer people in that state than in the city of San Diego. I would suspect that the mayor of New York commands more police officers than their National Guard.
This is a good state to use for training but this should by no means be compared to being the governor of California or Georgia.
Finally, Sarah seems to assert things that she knows aren’t true about herself and her opponents. Show knows what happened to the bridge to nowhere, that she got the money and gives herself the credit for killing the project at the same time. He success will rely on the ignorance of the American people.
So far, I am not impressed. We will see the substance of her arguments when she submits to interviews and debates.

Joe Biden has been in the Senate since 1973!!!! Quick – can you name ONE achievement in that time??? Besides twice running for the democrat nomination for president and LOSING BOTH TIMES! Obama was only in the Senate for 140 days before he starting running for president!!!! Why should anyone believe the Obama/Biden “change” message – Obama is still trying to learn the Senate rules and Biden hasn’t “changed” anything in 35 years

Sarah Palin does not believe in evolution, which means she does not believe in science or the scientific method. Yet we need new technology, which is based on science, to help solve the energy crisis and global warming. Of course, she also doesn’t believe human activity is causing global warming.
Given her positions on abortion and sex education, she is step back to the 19th century for all women. The same for gay rights.
RCG

“Joe Biden has been in the Senate since 1973!!!! Quick – can you name ONE achievement in that time???”
Violence Against Women Act. Any woman who has escaped a violent husband since the passage of that act has Joe Biden to thank.
Do your research before you bash, please.

Intimidation. Extremist views. Backward thinking. Thanks, but NO THANKS, Sarah Palin. I’m voting for Obama and Biden.

I will tell you what “some people’s problem is”.
8 years ago, I was fresh out of college. In the eight years since, I have worked hard, changed jobs three times, gotten married, had 2 children and purchased my first home. I, and my family, have medical insurance that I pay for- not my government.
In other words, the last eight years have been GREAT for me. When my first job got shipped overseas, I got a different job and worked hard- and was rewarded. That experience led me to another job that paid more and will give me the experience I need to move up again in the future.
The economy is not as great as it was in 98. It is also far from a recession. And statistics show that America is doing well compared to other countries the past 8 years. This is not an “American” slump- this is a world slump. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122039890722392873.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
The price we pay for being addicted to oil and having a global economy.
Stop waiting for your government to save you. Buy what you can afford. Save what you can. Improve yourself and move up in the world. The government is NOT your mother!

I just love the hypocrisy being generated by Johnny’s camp. They can be nasty, Obama can’t. THEY can decry ‘rock star’ status, but it’s okay when it’s them. They can twist and lie and flip and flop and then whine like a pinched baby when someone calls them on it. Grow up.

Roger – under the current tax structure the top 5% of income producers pay 40% of all taxes. The top 10% pay almost 70% of all taxes. Please let us all know what constitutes the “fair share.” You mean the fair share is always someone else’s pocket.

Proud Republican, why are you so protective of the fetus, but your obligation to the child stops once it is born? You are against feeding and clothing those born into need, but feel you can tell a woman what she HAS to do and bear after the child is born. You are a hypocrite, the worse type of human I can imagine…

“Biden cautioned that he doesn’t know if Palin’s alleged positions on issues such as global warming are true.”
“She’s going to try to make it as personal as she can. She’s going to take a lot of straight lefts and jabs at me, she’s going to try to get me to respond, she’s going to try to get me to respond in a personal way. That’s not my style. I’m not going to do it.”
“because we have an asinine [energy] policy – we have a Sarah Palin policy.”
Is anybody else amazed by these three statements appearing together in one article and all attributed to the same guy?

Can’t we be civil? No one has all of the answers to our problems not Oboma and not McCain. All of us want something from the government without wanting to give something. I know people who can afford to buy their own health insurance but prefer to spend the money on second and third cars, big homes, tickets to football games, etc. I know people in my own family who feel that way. Don’t you? I know people who could send their children to college if they began saving when the child was born like my husband and I did. No one wants to save for the future any more. Again, we all want someone else’s money to pay for what we want. Let’s get real about this.

I’d like to perform surgery but I did not go to medical school. I have a witty sense of humor. Could I operate on you or you children.
How do you uphold the constitution, select justices, engineer economic policy, meet with world leaders, etc. without an education?
World leaders come together to hammer out serious, life changing issues, not to be entertained by the pitbull in lipstick who said “thanks but no thanks”- cute. Palin is dumber than Bush.

T/C in VA…obama considers himself T/C in VA…obama considers himself to be black so he and michelle ARE closet racist against whitey. They both have put it in print in books and thesis. obama didn’t throw his black father who deserted him under the bus it was his white grandmother who did raise him that felt the wheels. She’s just a typical white person, probably gun toting and bible thumping. Wake up.

I agree Cynthia!!! How about the new attack ad the republicans have out about Senator Obama wanting to teach sex ed to kindergarteners because he voted for a bill in regards to talking to children about staying away from sex offenders. McCain has definitely hit an all time low of dirty and dispicable. He will not ever represent me.

You are wrong.
You are using pre Bush tax break figures and when you say the top 10 percent you are talking about businesses as well as individuals. Yes corporation do make up the bulk of the taxes collected– the benefit the most from American capitalism

To think that this woman with little education and almost no experience could be one step away from being President… This is a woman who was mayor of a small town of less than 5,400 for a few years and that makes her qualified to change tax law and send our troops to war and preside over trade issues and health care and education? This is too much! We can’t elect someone just because we like the way they look!

People, don’t get disoriented by politic show or what news paper said.
Lets be focus, what we need is a greener planet (weather can no hold it anymore), not dependency of petroleum (our pockets are about to get broken), support to the small business (who gave more jobs), no more war- and reconstruction with not sense (so tax-money don’t go to the never-land).
We need a Democrat president, who fight for average american citizens.
Think a bit, you will find the answer by yourselves then surely the change will come!

Yes M/P 08, what book is this so I can read it? I have read both of Obama’s books and I have yet to read that part. Tell me what the name of this book or writing is that he said this so I can read it. Just another made up pathetic story. How many of his books have you read to at least fact check your garbage? None. Stay off the internet, you and your friends emailing each other with made up garbage does not constitute real information. YOU are the racist, its funny to see all of a sudden black people being the most racist group of people in America now. How funny!!!

George Hussein Obama, Barack Obama’s brother, lives in a small shack in Nairobi on one dollar per month. Has Obama helped him – NO! (Telegraph, 2008) Obama feels nothing for his family, what makes you think he will care for this country?

You lap dog liberals continue to repeat the sound bites that are fed to you by the democratic campaign machine. Here’s an eye-opener for you … the congress, both houses, (for you patriotic folks that watch MTV and didn’t take Civics – they make the laws and determine budget appropriations) are controlled by the Democrats. This is their economy. All Pelosi and Reid can do is demoralize the military, oppose drilling, and slam Bush. Why haven’t they served the American people? Most people in this country really do want the partisan crap to end and “Put America First”. Joe Lieberman put it very well at the republican convention and the dems piled on him immediately. With the dems it seems to always be party first. You can’t be helped until you recognize you have a problem.

I wish you libs would at least get the facts right about Palin. Everything you are saying is WRONG! Look it up….just like the ones about Obama that were not true. Palin has never tried to push her religion in the state of Alaska…ever. All this “leaves the state in debt” stuff is bull. An arena was built with a mortgage on it. How many of you pay cash for your house? That Arena will bring in revenue for years to come.
Obama is not ready to be President. He is too inexperienced. I am not going to say horrible things about him either. I think he is a decent guy who needs more years in the political arena. Taxing those “rich” people to pay for his plans…..that would be us small business owners. What will we have to do? Cut jobs and benefits. Great plan.
McCain/Palin 2008

Jack, If you just read all of the garbage on this blog, and other blogs, (Obama is a racist, a muslim, questionable ties, a marxist, a narcissist and the other problem “he is black”) You will see why the race is so close. We are still back in 1950 and only white men are “smart” enough to run the country (their doing such a fabulous job now)It has nothing to do with his ability it has everything to do with the attitude of this country.
God Bless America

You’re proving my point RON

Does McCain know how to deal w/ the nuclear waste he proposes to generate without wiping out all the vertebrates on the planet? He and Palin have a history of ignoring and even surpressing basic facts on environmental issues. The America lost its best wind and solar development companies to Denmark and Germany because of republican voting aginst tax credit extensions for alternative energy research. Be a big world power and have sustainable economic growth… corner the market on wind, solar and hydrogen power, (there’s no such thing as “clean coal” Palin). We need smart people to shape energy and environmental policy if we want a future.

I like the way you think but I don’t like the “fair tax” because it just taxes comsumption. It does not tax income or capital gains and it does not tax barter. There are ways around it. I think it will generate less revenue. But we’re talking issues and that’s a no-no this election.
But some one needs to say why taxes are important. They fund federal prisons, roads, our space program, bridges, law enforcement, military, education and a host of other things. I know taxes are not popular but I love America and I think this country gives me a big bang for my tax buck. We can battle tax abuse and wasteful spending, but I’m paying a part for our efforts in Iran, the trips to mars and I’m paying to keep thugs off the street– not too bad for a working class joe. I don’t mind taxes- just don’t over do it.

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Tim, you have as much brains as a pig wearing lipstick.
Change. The “community organ grinder” used the word change but by picking Obiden he shot his wad. Obiden has one foot in the grave.
YOU, here in your Madison Ave appartment, know more about Polar Bears than someone who walked among them? I think she knows a bit more about wildlife, the enviromnent, and conservation than someone dumb enough to listen to millionaire Gore.
Woman choose what’s right for HER body? How about letting a poor, defenseless baby get to choose too? You liberals are so rightous, want death row killers to walk free, but a baby? Uhh, just kill them.
Anyone with at least a 2nd grade education, sorry if that lets some of you out, KNOWS supply and demand economics. We increase the supply, the demand goes down, the PRICE drops. Got it, kiddies?
Pandering? The democrats wrote the book on it.
Palin – 08

K,
So when white men are helping other white men, is that also offensive? Because that is everday life. It is amazing how offended you get when you are not the object of attention. White men have been helping white men, for hundreds of years but I don’t see you being outraged about that. If you read his book, which I seriously doubt, it talks about his mother, grandmother in great detail, is is actually mostly about them, you are making yourself look foolish. It seems like a lot of folks are afraid of a black man being in office because you are afraid of being the outcast and ignored like black people have been treated for the last 200 years. Stop showing your racist views.

The arena does not make money. It runs in the red every year.
And Palin did try to force the town librarian to remove books that did not reflect Palin’s religious views. One of those books, by a local pastor, was titled “Pastor, I am Gay”
Just wait. This is just the tip of the ice berg.

“Hillary’s achievements could have gone toe-to-toe with McCain…”
Sorry, Hillary never had any achievements other than using Bill’s name to get herself elected senator.
It’s funny to hear McCain supporters claim he loves this country so much also considering he has supported the Patriot Act & ignoring the Geneva convention, thus ignoring the constitution & the idea that America is supposed to be an example. The only change McCain/Palin will bring is who the lobbyists write the checks to.

For those saying Palin doesn’t have enough experience….she has more than Obama, and he is running for the big job! Why are you a VP candidate to the Pres candidate?
I am a republican who is Pro Choice. No one can agree with every issue from a candidate. I like Sarah because she is a strong woman who has successfully run a town, the largest state in the country (11 Billion dollar budget and 29,000 employees) and is also a wife and mother. She comes from a middle class family and still lives the middle class life. Not one of you has even given her a chance….for goodness sakes, it hasn’t even been 2 weeks yet!
Stop believing all the lies. If you are a dem and won’t vote for anyone rep, OK. But stop the low down insults!

All around this country, blacks have been elected to office by voting constituents that were predominantly white. I would like to think that this was based on their abilities (except for Kuame in Detroit). This shows me that racism is dying a well deserved death in this country. But now, it seems to be a given that blacks have to vote for Obama simply because he’s black. If they don’t, they are traitors to their race. This folks… is the epitome of racism!

mcCAIN IS OUT TUCH WITH THE AVERAGE WORKING MAN OR WOMEN.mccain just dont understand. HULON BANKS

Palin promotes general after he changes his stance on her experience
Last Wednesday, Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell suggested to the Boston Globe that Gov. Sarah Palin’s role as commander of the state’s National Guard was largely ceremonial, thus blunting attempts by the McCain campaign to assert she had foreign policy experience

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Then we have true dufusess like jomamma who said “he has supported the Patriot Act & ignoring the Geneva convention, thus ignoring the constitution & the idea that America is supposed to be an example”.
Sorry, if we had the Patriot Act in 2001 there might be 3,000 alive Americans today. Thank you Slick Willie.
The Geneva Convention? So, you want to allow terrorists who kill women and children the right to American trials? So a slick lawyer can get them off to kill you? Sorry. We capture them, we torture them to save YOUR life, then we hang them. NO fair trials. No 9/11′s.
So, democrats taking away law abiding American’s 2nd Amendment rights is not “ignoring the Constitution”?????? Clean up your own house before coming over to mine.
Palin – 08

Your Future:
“Last Wednesday, Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell suggested to the Boston Globe that Gov. Sarah Palin’s role as commander of the state’s National Guard was largely ceremonial, thus blunting attempts by the McCain campaign to assert she had foreign policy experience”.
Did you watch his interview? He gave Palin GLOWING reveiws! Said she took control and is a strong leader. He couldn’t say enough good things about her. STOP with all the lies!

I am a complete Asshat. My comments are told to me by Jesus. Jesus says that abortion is bad. Jesus says that some humans have rights and some humans are not religious enough to have rights.

“The Geneva Convention? So, you want to allow terrorists who kill women and children the right to American trials? So a slick lawyer can get them off to kill you? Sorry. We capture them, we torture them to save YOUR life, then we hang them. NO fair trials. No 9/11′s.”
Just another reason why Larryman is wrong.
Hey Larryman, how about I simple call you a terrorist. Then the government can come to your house, torture you, and kill you, without ever having to tell you why. That is what you want right?

Obama’s best buddy, Bill Ayers, is a terrorist.

Lets talk TAX FACTS shall we?
Federal Individual Income Tax Data, 2006 (3 years after “Bush Tax Cut”
Group’s Share of Income Taxes
Top 1%: 39.89%
Top 5%: 60.14%
Top 10%: 70.79%
Top 25%: 86.27%
Top 50%: 97.01%
Bottom 50%: 2.99%
source: http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/indtaxstats/article/0,,id=133521,00.html

McCain’s best buddy, Gordon Liddy, is a terrorist.

Come on, Americans — think!!! If Sarah Palin won’t talk to the press until they give her “respect and deference” how will she stand up to Putin? Kim Jong Il? Something could very easily happen to John McCain and she would be our president. Do you honestly think Putin will worry about hurting her feelings? Hillary could have handled the leader of any country not this woman. When all you’re running on is being just a normal hockey mom are you really going to have the guts to face nuclear disaster? Terrorists? Forget the lipstick, PTA, etc. Think! Think! Think! Plus, she left Wassilla in tremendous debt! Even the eBay story was a lie!

But the fact is that she is not deploying National Guard troops as the Gov. of Alaska.
I like her too and I’m saying glowing things about her, but she does not deploy NG troops and her role is ceremonial.

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Larryman (little M), you are a complete idiot if you think you can fool us Palin supporters. You CAN fool Obammabots, they have sh*t in their ears. Try some more stupid pig tricks. Stop grunting and snorting.
Tim, I will try to explain it to you, I know it’s hard and I may not be able to think like a 6 year old.
OPEC just announced they will cut production to “raise the price of oil”. Well DUH!!!!!! Supply will drop, the price will increase, and —— let me try to explain it to you simply —- GAS PRICES WILL GO UP!!!!!
Simple enough for you?
Please try to get some help, from your mommy.
Palin – 08

Yes, Palin increased the funding for special needs children– AFTER SHE HAD HER BABY 5 Months ago. How Ironic!!!

Since none of you white people can put yourself in the shoes of an Afro-American and understand how their lives have been affected by this society, have no room to critize Obama or any black person for the attitude this society has fostered in them.

Dandury McCain chooise the pig in a poke without having vetted her one iota.

Lukeskytalker
You are not female, so you cannot judge how a female feels. I have been discriminated against so many times in my life because of my gender…pay, sexual advances, attitudes. No one lives in a bubble here. We all have life stories to tell.

Palin’s interview this week is a scam. The media outlet agreed to follow her for the day. It just happens to be Sept. 11, the day she ships her son off to Iraq. What then, she says- to the camera- she misses him already writes him a letter and begins to cry.
I can live without that. Why not just sit her down in the studio and let her answer some questions about her stands on policies and issues? This week’s interview will be a P.R. setup- a get to know Sarah and see her ship her son off. We can all weep together.

Just a quick reality check -
When you encourage EVERYONE to vote, the majority of voters will be largely uninformed and vote on superficial grounds. The winner will be he (or she, I guess) who radiates the most personal appeal.
For quite some time now, Obama seemed to have the election in the bag, but not because of his position on the issues. He had far and away the most personal appeal. Sarah Palin has put a dent in it because she, too, has a lot of personal appeal. She’s an attractive woman and a mother who is cheerfully coping with some of the biggest family challenges mothers have to face.
Attacking her stand on the issues will make little to no difference.

Check your motives…do you serve God or yourselves? What is your motive?

I can only hope biden will treat her the same if she were a man she claims shes a pitbull with lipstick she should not be treated any differently because shes a woman IF SHE CANT TAKE THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN IF MCCAIN CAMP CANT TAKE IT DROP HER she wants to roll with the big boys then SHE OR MCCAIN BETTER NOT CRY SEXISIM stop putting the pitbull in a bubble!

Yes observer Republicans server their god(Money)…….

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LukeskyBSer, in the words of Sheriff Bart, “Hey, where’s de White Women”???
If you are a black American, “this society” has provided a better life and more opportunities than someone still stuck in Africa. If you don’t think so, we can pitch in and buy you a one-way plane ticket back there. Will even help you to pack your bags.
In the meantime, it is NOT my responsibility to pay your needs, pay your education, pay your taxes, pay for your babies, and buy your medicine. No one bought MINE and I am an angry American too.
Try to get just a little more education, please.
Palin – 08

Lukeskytalker.The issues are criticized and not the person “Obama”.

The republicans do not want to pass the offshore oil bill because not only does it allow offshore drilling but it:
1) forces oil companies to use the land that American has leased them, or give the land back. Oil companies want as much land and money as then can get, and repubs will do whatever will make the oil companies happy.
2) Provides billions in incentives for renewable energy research and production. Something that may compete with oil companies, lower gas prices, and make pil comapnies lose money. Obviously repubs don’t like this.
So in a nut shell, Republicans want to drill for oil only, because it will make the oil companies money and will not make American independent.
Democrats want to drill and research renewables for a better chance and becoming independent, but can’t pass the bill because republicans want only the oil companies to make money.

Larryman you are such trash. I bet you are not paying anything for anyone including yourself, that is why you have time to blog all day, pathetic. White people play the race card better than any other race. What is this 1930?

LARRYMAN,
I’VE ALREADY PROVED YOU ARE AN IDIOT. So SHUT THE FUCH UP.
You want to toture terrorists, but the CONSTITUTION SAYS, “ALL men are crated equal.” So you are WRONG, or at least you are NOT AMERICAN.
You want to drill for oil and you explain that supply and demand will make gas prices lower. You are right to a point, “HOW MUCH LOWER?” is the question that you DO NOT understand.
THE ANSWER IS 2% LOWER. AMERICA WILL BE 2% LESS DEPENDENT ON FOREIGN OIL. YOU ARE A MORON IF YOU THINK 2% WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Like the rest of the repubs, if you do not get your way you fuch it up for the rest of us. DEMOCRATS WANT TO PASS A BILL THAT LETS OIL COMPANIES DRILL OFFSHORE. Why are the republicans blocking it? PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT, if you want to prove to me that youi KNOW ANYTHING WORTH READING ABOUT.
I can not beleive that I explained facts to you, with math, and you still do not understand that if the supply goes up 2% and the demand stays the same, the prices go down 2%. Did you take 2nd grade math?
(reposted because Larryman has nothing to say.)

All of you Republicans are insane to think this woman is the real thing. She is the “mean girl” from high school who is brilliant in fooling all of you followers into her way of thinking. Try thinking for yourself for a change…or maybe that’s just not possible. Continue to follow her (as you did the mean girl in high school) and see where that gets you. By the way the mean girl forgot about you the day you graduated high school, just as Palin will when she’s VP if elected. You will see your job go away due to high unemployment and their lack of concern for the average american and global warming will get to the point that our climate will be so bad we willsoon be at the point of no return to help it. But she doesn’t think humans are causing it. That’s sound thinking. Also, gas prices will increase as they have the past 8 years and as she is “in” with the oil industry. Forget the economy…John McCain has done NOTHING to help keep the budget balanced, as it was when “W” took office. Wake up you narrow minded fools.

THINK: Nobody can buy Obama’s claim that he will only increase taxes on a few rich people and give the rest of us tax cuts – the bottom 50% of wage earners barely pay taxes. He HAS TO hit the middle class to pay for ANYTHING. Realize that his platform programs and tax-cut promises come to a trillion dollars and that his tax increases represent only one-tenth as much. Everyone who pays taxes will end up paying more if Obama is elected. The question will be: Is it worth it?

Yeah thats right in the next couple of years our climate will be unfixable. 30 years ago we worried about global cooling, now it’s global warming. In ten years there will be something else. Just so you know climate change won’t happen over years and I really don’t think Sarah Palin and John Mccain will cause the destruction of the world climate. Take a look at China who doesnt give a crap about the environment and is growing faster than anything.. But yeah buy that hybrid and CFL bulb because that will make the difference!!

Sharon
You are an angry person. You hate someone when you don’t even know all the facts, or have given her a chance to prove herself.
Obama is not a messiah. He is an inexperience man that is not ready to be President.
Stop the hate talk.

patsey…so what is your answer?…four more years of McBush?

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Welcome, Doug, a true black American????
You are correct, I pay nothing, I am retired. I PAID my dues while you were still sh*tting yellow. Serving in the Marines, working full time jobs.
And, thanks to George Bush, my taxes are zero, my medical is zero. Can I say it again, Obammabots? THANK YOU George Bush.
Tell me Obammabots, IF the “Community Organ Grinder” gets in, will I still pay zero taxes and have zero medical payments?
Don’t all snort and grunt at the same time.
Palin – 08

LARRYMAN,
I’VE ALREADY PROVED YOU ARE AN IDIOT. So SHUT THE FUCH UP.
You want to toture terrorists, but the CONSTITUTION SAYS, “ALL men are crated equal.” So you are WRONG, or at least you are NOT AMERICAN.
You want to drill for oil and you explain that supply and demand will make gas prices lower. You are right to a point, “HOW MUCH LOWER?” is the question that you DO NOT understand.
THE ANSWER IS 2% LOWER. AMERICA WILL BE 2% LESS DEPENDENT ON FOREIGN OIL. YOU ARE A MORON IF YOU THINK 2% WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Like the rest of the repubs, if you do not get your way you fuch it up for the rest of us. DEMOCRATS WANT TO PASS A BILL THAT LETS OIL COMPANIES DRILL OFFSHORE. Why are the republicans blocking it? PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT, if you want to prove to me that youi KNOW ANYTHING WORTH READING ABOUT.
I can not beleive that I explained facts to you, with math, and you still do not understand that if the supply goes up 2% and the demand stays the same, the prices go down 2%. Did you take 2nd grade math?
(reposted because Larryman has nothing to say.)

“Let us make the frenzied media assault our WAKE UP CALL that if we do not take action now we will lose this election. Let the attacks of the elite media on this special woman be constantly remembered and rally us to victory.
Many (especially older voters) are fooled by the supposedly unbiased anchors. When we listen to the elite media and see their comments. These are the people who vetted Obama with the same tenacity as a mother vetting her child. In contrast we all watched as the elite media salivated like wolves snarling and slashing at the Governor and her little daughter before Governor Palin’s speech. Then immediately after the speech (when they had gathered the entire pack for the vetting kill of “this woman”), we saw fear on their faces. They had that undeniable acute depressive look of a bad cop caught with his hand on the throat of an innocent woman.
Some in the media had the integrity to apologize and some (like Olberman and Mathews were fired but others (like the Cooper CNN crowd) are unrepentant and now they are reuniting the pack. Like herd out of a Thomas Kuhn novel they are intellectuality rationalizing their abhorrent behavior and reforming as would a clutch of corrupt policemen.
The pundits on both sides are excused –they admit their bias but these “Journalists” are like a doctor who prescribes you a drug without telling you he/she is getting a kickback! For all those professionals who use the public trust to advance their own agenda— the Olberman firing is your wake up call–that one is for you!!
We must recognize that the founders of America never planned for a biased media with a stranglehold on most of the news America reads and sees. The field is unbalanced yet we must win, in part because those who unbalanced this election must not be allowed to prevail. All of us must dig deeper to support Senator McCain and Gov. Palin. Get involved NOW and/or send as much as you can afford NOW –The media is doing their best to elect their chosen one –lets all do our part ASAP. Dealing with Media bias is like dealing with a corrupt police force –they will always self justify. They will not fix themselves. Go to the McCain site and get involved and/o donate as much as you can afford today. Let’s get America back and show for all of history that in America the media cannot anoint our leaders.

US mag in freefall as subscriptions are canceled over the Palin HITJOB. USMAG sends out emails to all subscribers to ask them not to cancel and they will get a free subscription.
OpRAH IS NEXT MASSIVE boycott underway!!!

Come on Roger were waiting for that brilliant answer……

The news daily never ceases to amaze me.There are still Hillary backers that are whinning, you all talk abt punishing Obama how sad.That is indeed if they are not Rep plants on the blog which also wouldn’t surprise me. Hillary lost, i think it’s time for all of you to put your big girl panties on and move on. She will run again and I truly feel it is in your best interest not to be so hostile against Obama you will need his supporters next time and if the hostility grows again she could loose I think it’s time we start acting like grownups. As far as Palin goes i have heard nothing from her of importance other than bashing the other side. The Rep are the whinner’s here they can sure give it, but can’t take a hit doesn’t say much abt their strength. To me they are nothing more than a bunch of bullies in the playground what the other side truly needs to do is throw one good punch the Keating 5 could do that, playing fair just can’t be done with these jerks who call themselves change people. The only change in their campain will be their daily change of underware if they even do that.

grenadierboy
Great posting…if you are not a writer, you should be. I am making my donation now to the McCain/Palin ticket.

Energy Crisis:
Repubs want offshore drilling, but not if the bill includes making oil companies use the land they have or give it back. They also do not want drilling if the bill inlcudes renewables.
IS IT NOT OBVIOUS THAT REPUBLICANS DO NOT CARE ABOUT AMERICAN ENERGY INDEPENDENCE? They think that 2% more oil will somehow make a difference. They are fighting solar/wind power tooth and nail at the same time.
Looks to me like they say they want energy independence, but what they really want is more Oil Company Control over America. Why else would they not want to break the monopoly of energy by creating new energy sources?
IF YOU THINK THAT AMERICA SHOULD BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT, TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ACTAULLY WANT TO DO. I BET YOU WILL BE SURPRISED.

Peggy
In two weeks we’ve seen enough. Palin won her first election with a TOTAL of 600 votes. That’s a total not a margin of victory. She won the second term as moyor with a total of 909 votes. She holds nothing but a bachelor’s degree. She runs the largest state with the smallest population- smaller than Chicago. So small the governor worked to her brother-in-law fired because he was a bad guy. She also charged the state for time she spent at home.
What makes her VP material?
There are a great number of bright women in America. Palin’s not at the top of list for brains. Obama is.

Tim
McCain supports offshore drilling, nuclear power plants and all alternative energy possibilities.
Obama does not support drilling or nuclear power.
Putting more air in our tires will not solve the problem.

Words of wisdom:
Executive experience is overrated. Bush had plenty of it before he was selected president and see where we are today.
Pro-life is a misnomer. Pro-selective-american-human-life is more like it. Killing innocent civilians in a war is acceptable but aborting a pregnancy out of a btutal rape is not.
What’s not said says a lot. What’s not said is “the plane was NOT sold on Ebay.”

Walker,
Vote totals don’t matter. She was the mayor and she is the Governor. Budget of that little state is over 11 billion dollars. She has her office at home, saving the taxpayors hundreds of thousands of dollars in expenses. .
Other than organizing a community group, name something Obama has done that even remotely compares.

“Tim
McCain supports offshore drilling, nuclear power plants and all alternative energy possibilities.
Obama does not support drilling or nuclear power.
Putting more air in our tires will not solve the problem.”
See, you are WRONG.
Obama has repeaditly said that he SUPPORTS Nuclear Power as long as we first determine what to do with the nuclear was that will ruin miles of earth for thousands of years if not handled properly.
Obama also supports the bill that is currently being pressed in the Senate that ALLOWS offshore drilling in the GULF OF MEXICO as long as it also supplies RESEARCH FUNDING for renewables.
McCain and the republicans are against this bill, and therefore either against offshore drilling of against renewable energy. Either way, THE REPUBLICANS OBVIOUSLY ARE AGAINST ENERGY INDEPENDENCE. Why else would then stump this bill?
PLEASE ANSWER ME, I WOULD TO SEE IF YOU ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND MY COMMENT.

It’s hilarious to see people commenting on Biden/Obama’s lack of experience, and then jumping to support Palin/McCain when neither has promised to do much ‘changing’ on specific issues, the most important issues in fact.
I know you bleed Red, but c’mon now; I doubt you make enough to fit their bill.

John McCain was born in another country -Panama.
The law says that in order to be president that person must be born in the USA. Panama is not the USA.
If Obama had been born in another country you can bet everyone would be up in arms to support that law.
Just sayin

Barney-
You got me all wrong man. I’m voting a democratic ticket. I’m not a Republican. I think they tax breaked the rich and threw all that debt on the working class.
The Repubs have been having a party and the middle class has been left with the tab.
Barney- reread my posts. You’re going after the wrong guy.

Who is the republican nomoniee sara palin or john mccain? seems like sara girl is more liked than john mccain sad for john to be number two makes you wonder if they win who will be president him or her?

It amazes me to hear people say Obama should have chosen Hillary. He couldn’t trust Hillary as his VP. She made the primary so nasty and wouldn’t drop out even though she couldn’t win, but she tried to make his run harder in states like Ohio where he’s still trying to recover from her attacks. This is still SEPTEMBER. We won’t know what any candidate should have done or not done until November 5th.

Roger – good questions. Lets let the facts lead us to good decisions.
2002 Income Tax Revenue: $797 billion
2006 Income Tax Revenue: $1,024 billion”
Question: Who made up the increase if the wealthiest Americans got a tax break?
Answer: Tax RATES (for everyone) went down. RATES go down, INCOME goes up as the economy grows, so TOTAL TAX REVENUE goes up. The IRS data shows increases in individual incomes across all income groups. The top tax brackets actually INCREASED their percent contribution during the period 2003-2006.
The net result has also been a sharp rise in federal government tax revenue from 2003 to 2006 compared to previous years.
Question: If 2002 was a budget surplus why is 2006 a deficit with more revenue collected and conservatives in charge of the government?”"
Answer: Obviously expenditures outpaced revenue. Social program costs continue to outpace economic growth, and exceed growth of defense spending.
Which candidate do you think stands the better chance of changing spending behavior in Washington?

The great community organizer, Hussein Obama. What is that? Oh, I know. Sharpton and Jackson have been community organizers for years. They go into a community and organize riots and infernos. I guess the Obama camp would call me a racist. What about %95 of blacks voting for that phony because he is black.When he loses the election by a landslide, wait till you see the racism issue cause all kinds of riots and trouble.What a joke that Hussein Obama is going to bring us together. He sure as hell isn’t talking about me!!!!!

To Tim, stop reposting the same tripe. It makes you look…well…like a crazy leftist.

texmexborderjumper,
your liberal fried brain is thinking of the Ford Pinto. Sam Maverick was a rancher who refused to brand his cattle because he thought it was a cruel practice.

Here’s my take on the Election:If you like what George Bush has given you for the last eight years,then vote for McCain and get yourself another dose for four more years.Persoaly I can’t take four more years of Bushes polices much less his Economics.
OBAMA 08

To Sarah’s supporters: What exactly do you know about her? Obama went through a long vetting period and he earned his way to compete for president. Before you decide to support Sarah, understand her positions, judgement and ability to govern on a large scale before you make up your mind.
Are you so easy to be manipulated?

*DTP* that is EXACTLY how the system works.
BTW bonuses (like those investment bankers receive) are taxed as income whether they are cash or non-cash. If the non-cash portion appreciates over time and is then sold it is TAXED AGAIN at 15%. Read the beer analogy again several times it is spot on.

I agree with George (above) — if you like the way George Bush has been running this country — you feel we’re in good financial shape, the thousands that died in Iraq is justified,global warming is not happening, education isn’t important, than McCain is your man. And, as I said previously, if you think Palin can stand up Kim Jong Il, etc. when she can’t stand up to the media, the Palin/McCain ticket is for you.

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DTP, it DOES work that way because those paying at that 15% still pay more than the secretary at 35%. They have EARNED their money, taken the chance, took the hits, and come out. I am not rich but I sure don’t want THEIR money. Do you?
Sarah supporters know? We know all we need to know, that she is for less taxes, more oil production, for gun rights, and for saving the life of a poor defenseless baby. And YOU????
So, “Cc”, what do you know about the community organizer? You like it that over 140 times he couldn’t make a decision, just voted “PRESENT’?????
A real leader, huh????
Stop pandering to the democrat talking points.
Palin – 08

Well said, LarryMan.

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Pam, yes, I LOVE the way George Bush has run the country. Until democrats took over the House and Senate, that is. We were doing fine until then.
Bush, to the delight of 99% of democrats who supported the war, went after terrorists instead of waiting until they came here and blew you to smitherines.
Sure, we lost 4,000 Soldiers, it’s a WAR remember. We lost that many in an hour during WWII at D-Day. But we also got probably 50,000 terrorists, democrats won’t talk about that.
Global Warming? Hey, I don’t drink Gore Kool-Aid. I don’t want him to get more than the $100 MILLION he has already milked from Americans. If you want to believe his garbage …. BTW, now “they” are saying there is Global Cooling on the way. Who you gonna blame that on????
Education is important except for democrats who want to pour more and more money into it. How about getting rid of incompetent teachers? Nope, union members.
Palin doesn’t have to step up against Kim Ill. All she has to do is prepare to step up against democrats, the real enemies of this country succeeding.
Palin – 08

LarryMan — It’s the wrong war! Remember who actually attacked on 9/11. And Bin Laden is STILL out there.
And Palin would certainly have to step up to the dictators of other countries if something happens to McCain!!!! She has to be ready on day one, too!!

Palin just got her passport for the first time 6 months ago. Her husband was a member of AIP, a party campaigning for Alaskan secesion, and while Sarah’s membership is disputed, she attended their convention in 1994.
The republicans accuse Obama of being a socialist for proposing a taxcut for middle and lower class families. The truth is that the republicans endorse welfare of the rich, socialism for the rich. In other words, corporate wellfare. Bailing out financial institutions, more tax cuts for the oil industry regardless of their record profits, etc. But for the People republicans say NO, you cant have any, that would be big government.
GTFO

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Pam, Pam, Pam. We buy you books and buy you books and all you do is color the pictures. How many times must I say it???
Democrats SUPPORTED the war until it was obvious that it was going to make Bush look like a genius. Then all of a sudden, “War Lost, Slaughtering millions, WRONG WAR”!!!!
From where I stand, on top of the Empire State Building (not really, but sounds good), this country looks pretty safe. Terrorists, like democrats, have their panties in a wad, running for cover, cowering under the bed. Pretty good Bush strategy to me.
Bin Laden? Is he still alive? Do you know for sure? If he is, his rotten kidney is DODGING SNIPER FIRE. He is insignificant, except for democrats who hate Bush. Is that you?
Palin not ready for day one? And, a “community organ grinder” IS???????
Now THAT is real scary.
Palin – 08

1992: It’s the economy, stupid.
2008: It’s the HYPOCRISY, stupid.

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Philko, I agree totally. Obammma is not fit to even brand cattle.
Just how does a community organizer who doesn’t vote, sorry, votes PRESENT 140 times, know anything about businessmen???
Has never run any business in his entire life?
Good show, I agree with you.
Palin – 08

Hey Clintonites:
A vote for McCain=another run for the White House for Hilary in 2012 (at age 65)
A vote for Obama=no possibility of a Clinton run for the White House until AT LEAST 2016 (at age 69!)
Conclusion: a vote for McCain in 2008=a vote for Hilary in 2012
You know I’m right.

MB: “Anonymoose, Canada is just a short trip to the north. Don’t let the door hit you.”
Ladies and gentlemen of the most gullible, and backward “civilized” nation on the face of the earth, I rest my case. You’d rather whine and take cheap shots at each other in the name of party than to preserve what little is left of representative democracy in America.
Guess what? While you’re busy calling names and tossing around epithets like “organ grinder” and “McSame,” the politicians in Washington are LAUGHING at you. Democrat, Republican, “Libertarian,” it doesn’t matter. They love this stuff because you’re now taking care of all the divide and conquer for them. You’re so good at distracting yourselves from reality that they don’t even have to blow in your ears and pat your ample fannies any more while they pick your pockets.
The world is laughing at us. We’re an embarrassment to humanity. And honestly? No matter who gets elected we’re probably going to be a greasy nuclear smear on the face of the globe within a century, because we’re just too goddamned stupid to live. This election is proof of that. This message board is proof of that. The name-calling and childish, boorish sniveling you idiots engage in is proof of that. If this is the best face we can offer the world, then there is no hope left and humanity is a doomed, damned thing. The only question is how much time we have left. And if this stupidity is any indication, that ain’t much, chilluns. We’re sentencing ourselves to our own fate this very minute.
Congratulations, morons, for screwing up what’s left of American representative democracy, and damaging it hopelessly beyond repair. You’ve shown the politicians how easily led you are, how easily fooled you are, how easy it is to get you to bend over and take it while they screw you. Way to go. Hope you enjoy that.

Ah, the milk of human kindness…

Headly, I have no ill will against Chicago. Negotiation with our radical enemies would be like negotiating with the gangs that are in Chicago and Minneaoplois…. Diplomacy only works when all wish for resolution.

Biben is Obama’s puppet and will say what he is told–what a minute–did I get that backwards?
Obama has the least experience of all of this years presidential candidates and he is going to tell a very, very, very experienced senator, who has more TERMS than Obama has Years in the Senate, what the platform will be?
Northeastern, Ivy League Senators, Kennedy, Kerry, Biden, McGovern all failed at their attempts to become president, and they came out to champion a junior senator against Clinton, who at least earned her stripes–guess she’s not cut out to be a good-ole-BOY!
Are these two Parties’ candidates the best we have?
The DNP likes to attempt to raise the past in comparing Kennedy to Obama, when McCain has more in common with Kennedy that Obama! Kennedy had his ship shot from under him, he ended up in the water, and had injuries that affected him the rest of his life.
Obama seems like a cool guy, but the DNP errored big time by not giving him more time to establish himself as a qualified candidate. If he loses, it will be the DNP’s fault, not Obama’s.
I like Biden, sometimes you hear just what he is thinking.
Billy Bob, Florida where the DNP now wants our votes after they first did not want our votes!

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rogert, you can be a community organizer, beg for millions, then get a big fat raise for your wife. Even get a house cheap, thanks to a slumlord friend.
You would qualify if you were a State Governor, like four of the last five presidents. Guess they weren’t qualified either?
Palin – 08

His program is another incentive for some free loaders to just sit there and take our hard earned money and blood. The lower and middle class will grow with the unemployed and illegals looking for free money.

I, for one, agree with the following:
Follow it carefully!
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100.
If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
So, that’s what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.
‘Since you are all such good customers, he said, ‘I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.
Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men – the paying customers?
How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share?’
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33.
But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.
So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (2 5% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before.
And the first four continued to drink for free.
But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.
‘I only got a dollar out of the $20,’declared the sixth man.
He pointed to the tenth man,’ but he got $10!’
‘Yeah, that’s right,’ exclaimed the fifth man.
‘I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I!’
‘That’s true!!’ shouted the seventh man.
‘Why should he get $10 back when I got only two?
The wealthy get all the breaks!’
‘Wait a minute,’ yelled the first four men in unison.
‘We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor.’
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him.
But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important.
They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works.
The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction.
Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore.
In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
(David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia)
For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
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*T** that, unfortunately is NOT how the US tax system works. You’re basing that analysis on earned income (salaries). The wealthiest people in this country don’t get thier money that way. They get it from investments which is taxed (at most) at around 15%. This is why Warren Buffet said that he actually pays at a lower tax rate (15%) than his secretary who pays at 35%.
I know its hard for working stiffs to fathom how much money there people get from investments but consider this…in the state of NY the Wall St brokers who earn most of their money from “bonuses” (investment gains)which are taxed at 15%, didn’t get those big bonuses this year because the investment banks tanked. Consequently, the state of NY is on the verge of bankruptcy (in the governor’s own words) largely because they lost so much tax revenue from just these guys. So yeah, they pay a lot taxes, but they KEEP a MUCH higher percentage of their money than we working stiffs do.
And THAT’S how the system really works.
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*DTP* that is EXACTLY how the system works.
BTW bonuses (like those investment bankers receive) are taxed as income whether they are cash or non-cash. If the non-cash portion appreciates over time and is then sold it is TAXED AGAIN at 15%. Read the beer analogy again several times it is spot on.
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DTP, it DOES work that way because those paying at that 15% still pay more than the secretary at 35%. They have EARNED their money, taken the chance, took the hits, and come out. I am not rich but I sure don’t want THEIR money. Do you?
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I just had to repost this… DTP you obviously have no idea how the system works.

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“Barack Obama IS”, what are you smoking?
Issues? What issues have Obammy and Hairplug Joe proposed? Just more taxes and bleed the country dry.
Free healthcare? Free college? Got any idea just what this will cost? Probably trillions. Where is the money coming from?
Oh, Tax the Rich. Right. Every time that has been done the rich just stop investing, stop improving, hide their money and get more tax breaks. So Obammy will have to tax the peons – that’s YOU and ME.
Bush has done 95% GOOD things. McCain will keep doing the good things. Like the economy booming, oops, until democrats took over the House and Senate. They made sure that you and I would pay a week’s salary to fill up. Thank YOU, democrats, for screwing the economy into the ground.
Personal attacks? Oh, like poor Sarah Palin is a “PIG WITH LIPSTICK”. Obammy needs to get some rest, every time he opens his mouth his fist goes into it.
He was doing so much better when he spent a week in Hawaii on vacation. He needs to go back there.
We need CHANGE!!! Yes, pick a 66 year old fart with hairplugs, in the senate for 34 years. Now that is reeeaaaaly change, right “Barak OBama IS”??????
You remember Biden, don’t you? He is the guy picked for Obammy’s VP. Try to remember.
Palin – 08

Democratic response maybe:-
“Without underrating the hardships of our situation, the long tragedy of the unemployed, the grievous burden of taxation, the arduous and painful struggle of those engaged in trade and industry, at any rate we are free from that fear which besets so many less fortunately placed, the fear that things are going to get worse. We owe our freedom from that fear to the fact that we have balanced our budget.
In war, whichever side may call itself the victor, there are no winners, but all are losers.”
(Clement Attlee)

Anything Biden says about his approach to his debate with Palin can’t be believed. Sarah Palin stands between Obama and victory. Everything including kitchen sinks, appliances, and sewing machines will be throw at her between now and then. Traps will be set. Attempts will be made to misinform Palin about Biden’s attitudes towards her. Biden’s problem though is that Sarah Palin is not reacting to him, but he to her. McCain/Palin have their eyes set on the goal, while Barack & Joe are still looking for their footing against a team they weren’t expecting. Obama has had to transform himself into a comic, at least until he gets his gravitas back. I think that gravitas is long gone. He has a potentially better future in comedy, like a Maher, or a Stewart.

Iam a hillary supporter. Listen to the obama supporters. They continue to attack hillary, their own party.. Here is the problem, they the dems got caught with there pants down. The rep. stoll the show by giving a woman a chance. The dems are pissed about it. Now they want hillary to go after her, pallin. She doesn’t owe the dems her loyalty after the fraud job they did on her in Florida. Experience,what experience does obama have. He is a great orator thats it. He stole his speeches from Kennedy and MLK. Nothing original. He threw his grandmother under the bus not his dad. He and the media attacked hillary, but that was okay.He has problems with women, sorry smart women. Finally i don’t think the people who work hard for their money should be responsible for the people who choose to look for had outs. A social government you do not need. I will vote for Mccain because the president needs to be experienced in these times. As biden said this is not an on the job training position.

THE LAST 8 YEARS HAVE BEEN ENOUGH—WE NEED A REPUB BREAK TO RECOVER –NOW I HEAR PALIN IS THREATHENING RUSSA—-SOME ONE BETTER TIE UP THIS TWIT BEFORE SOMETHING ELSE IS STARTED—WHAT THE HELL DO YOU REPS WANT —THE END OF THE WORLD–AND WE CALL OTHERS TERRORISTS

THAT IS CORRECT GANG PALIN IS THREATHING RUSSIA——-DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT SHE SURE SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME——-SOUNDING MORE LIKE BOMB BOMB IRAN

I do

Creationism is the means by which America will trump the secular heathen scientists and create an economic renaissance the likes of which have never been seen on this planet. It will be known as the post-technological theo-lution and it will be lead by visionaries like our leader the Great Sarah Palin!!!
Obviously I’ve got the good stuff.

Leonard, What’s your point? I was just answering the call. Are you God Particle?