Biden Rips Bush Administration
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe reports: While Republicans congregate in the Twin Cities striving to keep their hold on the White House, Barack Obama’s running mate Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., sharply criticized the Bush administration Tuesday while delineating the changes Democrats would demand if they rise to power.
"In an Obama-Biden administration, we will not have an attorney general who blatantly breaks the law," Biden said at a town-hall meeting in West Palm Beach, Florida, his voice at times drowned out by applause. "We will not have a president who doesn’t understand the Constitution. And I will not be a vice-president who thinks he’s not part of any of the three branches of government."
Biden ripped the Bush administration for wasting a chance to unite the nation in the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks.
"George Bush and his administration are going to be judged harshly by history," said the Delaware lawmaker. "Not for the mistakes they made, but for the opportunities to unite America and the world they squandered."
Now, Biden said, he and Obama are determined to take control of the West Wing, noting that he would not have agreed to share the Democratic ticket had he not known Obama’s commitment to sticking to his values.
"Have you figured out what is worth losing over?" he said. "Because if you have not, it’s just raw ambition. Barack understands what is worth losing over."
The McCain campaign responded to Biden’s comments by using the veep nominee’s own words against him. McCain’s team referred back to when Biden, while campaigning in the Democratic primary, said that Obama was "not ready" for the presidency.
"Six months ago Joe Biden’s description of an Obama administration was littered with questions of inexperience," said McCain spokesman Ben Porritt. "Today, Biden has been tasked with carrying the water for Barack Obama who has voted in favor of taxes 94 times in three years and has claimed that making decisions on the tough issues is ‘above his paygrade’. Barack Obama has zero foreign policy experience, is not a credible voice on U.S. relations abroad, and as John McCain and Joe Biden agree, is just not ready to lead."
Earlier Monday, addressing a crowd in Deerfield Beach, Florida, Biden also preached the importance of this election in terms of the Supreme Court, noting that the next administration might appoint as many as three new justices.
"The single most important domestic decision that a president gets to make on his own or her own is the Supreme Court," he said.
Looking to the future but with one eye on the past, Biden also promised that an Obama-Biden government would go through Bush administration data with "a fine-toothed comb" and pursue criminal charges if necessary.
"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation," he said, "they will be pursued, not out of vengeance, not out of retribution – out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no one, no attorney general, no president, no one is above the law."
On Tuesday, the vice presidential nominee continued his 48-hour swing through the Sunshine State with stops in Ft. Myers and Sarasota.
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Did he come up with this on his own or copy it from someone else?
Posted by: david | September 3, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am
Instead of being concerned about a Biden plaguerism, maybe you should jump on the bandwagon to “coverup for the Palin mistake” made by the buffoon McCain, the POW freak who has been programmed by his vietnamese captives to say “my friends, my friends” over and over again.
Sara “Pow”lin ty is a gift that keeps giving as more and more is being revealed about her.
Everybody can spin it as best they can, but bottom line…McCain and she both used poor judgment, he in his selection, and her in her acceptance.
It won’t last, and for McCain, she was never intended to last, just an instrument to further his campaign.
“He” it appears would rather jeapardize the security of our country rather than lose an election.
Posted by: MyAudacity | September 3, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
You go BIDEN! Keep pushing the message that we don’t need another four more years of the same crap! Obama said it right, EIGHT IS ENOUGH!!!!!
Posted by: Renee | September 3, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am
When Biden talks, I’m not sure if I’m getting a speech or a stand-up comedy routine.
Posted by: Frank P | September 3, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
The personal Palin story is overshadowing a much more significant piece of news:
“We learned last week that John McCain really wanted to choose his very good friend, Joe Lieberman, for VP but caved into pressure from the religious right. McCain will save his Lieberman pick for the Supreme Court — sorry evangelicals but you’ll have no leverage on Maverick McCain by then. Your Vice President will have no power in the process and a Democratic majority will happily confirm pro-choice Lieberman to the Supreme Court!”
Please understand the debate about abortion is essentially over. It may have become clearer to some during Lieberman’s address to the convention last night. It takes a little while for this profound reality to sink in.
Posted by: Thoren | September 3, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am
Rodney -
Again, consult history…if you’re so concerned about the Chinese angle look no further than the “Lippo Group” and President Bill Clinton and his wife. Do a little research, I’m sure you’ll find it interesting to see just how “Billary” sold us down the river to the Chinese government
Posted by: J | September 3, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
well if clinton had done his job in the first place there never would have been 9/11 we were he was offered osama bidladen and we didnt take him then
Posted by: tim abbey | September 3, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
The future of our country and the world is at stake both free and communist. Our country has been under dire straights the last 8 years as the Republican Party morphed into the corporate socialist party. Embracing fear and religion as a means of obtaining and retaining power. Wealthiest citizens get the least amount of tax burden on a percentage scale. This so called trickle down economics is exactly that nothing more than a trickle that seldom reaches beyond the tax loopholes and out sourcing of US Jobs here at home. Trickle down economics does not work in a capitalized system whose main goal is the bottom line. As with any governments system there must be fair and just rules without loopholes. Some regulation of the market is required to keep the playing field level. Let the individual to make the most of them selves.
Our political system is one of how much money can a lobbyist throw to a party or politician that the average citizens have lost any clout as far as being abused by various industries. Insurance is a big one in particular, Of course Big Energy (Oil) another fine example. There is no lobbyist for us the citizens. Even though our politicians are supposed look after our best interest. The system itself has shown us that one party or another cannot do what is required when given an extended stay in office.
I did like Barrack Obama’s speech in particular about the creation of 5 million jobs here at home in the development of Oil alternative energy. If you think about it our current economy is as close to the depression as you can get teetering on the edge. During that time in history it took a massive government policy that created the modern highway system, Hydro electric dams putting Americans to work in America to take us out of it.
Our country has limited supplies of oil as we all know. Most of which is threatened every time there is a Hurricane in the Gulf. Other sources in Alaska do nothing for our oil supplies here in the states as most is exported for corporate profits.
By building a new energy infrastructure as Barrack Obama has proposed would indeed provide the millions of jobs needed to bring our economy to thriving once again. Wind farms as a start indicated by Boom Pickens Plan generating 20% of our countries electrical power, Natural Gas reserves in this country are proven to sustain the country for at least 118 years. Drilling for gas is far less impact on the environment burning natural gas is 100% cleaner than oil and it can be used to power motor vehicles both gas and diesel with minor conversions, can be easily sold at service stations for far less then a gallon of gas. This phase of the plan will provide jobs in every sector from machinist, to heavy equipment operators, laborers, sales, and service persons electronics manufacturing, trucking and transport industries, an infinite number of industries would thrive. As this is being established other alternative can be fine tuned such as Hydrogen with no need for storage tanks but create the gas on board the vehicle as needed directly from water. Nuclear power is another example of power that will provide an ever growing number of jobs to complete the transfer from oil to new energy.
This initiative is as great as going to the moon and more important as our country will have no wealth if we give it to the middle east to power our country if we continue this road of oil for energy and not take the lead in a new energy source our country is destine to fail.
Everyone likes hope not many recognize it when it is present; opportunities show themselves most people procrastinate and miss the opportunity. This is an investors saying opportunity waits for no one.
So before you right off hope and stay on a course that is proven a misguided course really think long and hard about it especially if you have children and care about their future.
V-MAN
Posted by: V-man | September 3, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
and those trashing Biden
you obviously have never listened to the fact that he gets the details on almost every major policy issue we face.
Mccain has a tough time on second follow ups and Palin obviously can’t answer first questions…as we see they don’t allow her to be interviewed outside of a supervised People magazine interview…EVER.
the “hail Mary” isn’t the choice…it would be the prayer that a 72 year old man who survived a type of cancer which has a reoccurence rate that goes up exponentially the more you have it…
john mccain has had it multiple times.
Posted by: dl | September 3, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am
I like this speech! Obama and Biden sound like good Americans to me, with a lot of good ideas for this country.
Posted by: Arthur | September 3, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am
and tim abbey
if AFTER they actually attacked us…George W had done his job we would have gotten OBL…and if McCain had actually been smart and not some dumb blind cold war hawk…and pushed for us to go into the war…
not just voted for but oversaw the PR effort on the Comm that he, Lieberman and Scheunneman had run
we would not have gotten distracted by a STUPID war…
Posted by: dl | September 3, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
can we ask what Mccain thinks of China getting the oil contract out of Iraq?
please.
better yet can we ask Palin even…since the press does not seem toget to ask her …anything.
Posted by: dl | September 3, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
I would be careful sen biden, we are looking into your and obambi’s past and are coming up with some good information. I wish i could see the look on the unexperienced one’s face when he received his first intelligence breifing, uh oh uhm um oh urgh. all you have to do is look at the past and present democratic leaders to understand why this country looks weak to the world, alway’s running, dodging, and hiding the truth.
Posted by: Eagle Eye | September 3, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
I did not know Obama had values.
Posted by: Loyd | September 3, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
“In an Obama-Biden administration, we will not have an attorney general who blatantly breaks the law.
_____________________________
But Obama & Biden are already in cahoots with Chicago thugs Rezko.
How soon would they pardon Rezko to get one of their criminal leaders back.
Posted by: CC | September 3, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
I really don’t understand the polls. They show Obama/McCain running about neck and neck. How is that possible?
Last night, NBC News said that 7 out of 10 Republicans (that’s 70% of Republicans) think George Bush is doing a good job (gag!). Then how is it that his approval rating is only 34%?
Since McCain is just another carbon copy of Bush, why isn’t he polling at the same level?
I’m totally mystified why the Obama/McCain polls aren’t 65%/35% or thereabouts.
Posted by: Hiram | September 3, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
dl -
So, say after 9/11 we simply took a wait-and-see approach…do you think the terrorists would have just said, “Oh, okay, time out, the American’s need a time out. Stop the jihad.” You obviously know nothing about how to win a fight – and hey, no one likes a fight, but you better know how to defend yourself or you’re toast. Take a boxing class, see how long you’re opponent gives you to catch your breath before he decides to pummel the crap out of you. Write from reality, not emotion.
Posted by: J | September 3, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am
Read the text carefully. At the beginning Biden will unite the country in the last section he will create disention. Typical trash talk.
Why can we stick to issues ahead not behind.
Posted by: W | September 3, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
“Have you figured out what is worth losing over?” he said. “Because if you have not, it’s just raw ambition. Barack understands what is worth losing over.” – Plugs 2008
To a democrat liberty and freedom are worth loosing – because it gets in the way of socialism. They hate ambition and self determination. They want a nation of zombies so that a massive nanny state can take over and control our lives. I say screw that! Get the government out of my way.
Country first, McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Norman | September 3, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am
If the Republicans are trying to play the gender card, it certainly is working on me. I’ve been a Democrat all my life. I was sickened by the way Democrats treated Hillary, and I am sickened by the way they are attacking Sarah Palin. Why do I owe loyalty to a party that clearly shows little respect for women? I realize the Republicans are trying to exploit the anger of Democratic women. At the same time, I applaud the fact that Republicans don’t seem to have a problem with a woman in the White House. Conservatives have treated Palin with far more respect than many Democrats treated Clinton. I was going to stay home in November. With the nomination of Sarah Palin, I will cast my vote for the Republicans.
Posted by: Another Sarah | September 3, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am
Great Biden, no one is above the law, no one should be above the law, that is the nation’s interest. What a class difference between Biden and Miss Alaska and old McSame. God save America from McPaulin. God bless America and God bless Obama/Biden. OBAMA/BIDEN08
Posted by: BKMC | September 3, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am
Brait said, “McCain is using her (Palin) as a shield. The sly fox saw how Hillary and wman supporters divided the Dem. Camp.” You are so right, Brait, and I say hooray for McCain!!! I am one of those disaffected Democratic women who plans on voting Republican this year. I am sick of my own party attacking women. First they attacked Hillary, and now the vitriol is turned on Sarah Palin by Democrats who should know better. Attacking this woman’s character, and suggesting that she can’t be a good mother and a vice president at the same time, is a contemptible tactic by Obama supporters. I believe the Obama campaign is behind these attacks. The Democrats don’t deserve my support.
Posted by: Carrie | September 3, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
The reason Sarah Palin is attacked so visciously by liberals is because she has more experience than the top of the Democratic ticket. When the Democrats whine about her lack of foreign affairs experience, all the Republicans have to do is point to Obama’s similar lack of foreign affairs experience. The Democrats forced Joe Biden on Barack Obama to shore up his lack of experience. It’s now clear to the entire country that the wrong man is at the top of the ticket. Dems are embarrassed, and Repubs are laughing.
Posted by: Disapppointed by not Suprised | September 3, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Last time I checked, Bush’s approval ratings were their highest after 9/11, and most of the nation approved the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions on the grounds that both nations were connected to 9/11. Biden voted for both wars. According to Obama, he therefore lacks judgment. Remember when he said that about Clinton? He also questioned Clinton’s judgment and committment to poor people because she supposedly supported NAFTA. Biden voted for NAFTA (something Clinton didn’t do). He also voted for the bankruptcy bill — another source of Obama criticism of Clinton. Apparently, Obama will say anything to get elected….and do the exact opposite.
Posted by: Angry Democrat | September 3, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
“In an Obama-Biden administration, we will not have an attorney general who blatantly breaks the law”
So Beau is going to continue doing that as Delaware AG? issuing fraudlent arrest warrants for people speaking in D.C.
Posted by: geevill | September 3, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
How would it be treated if it were Michelle Obama with a 17 year old pregnant daughter. Or a teenage Chelsea Clinton in the white house?
Posted by: just askin | September 3, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
If you dont vote for Republican the terrorist will hide under your bed .
why did americans fall for this in the past 2 elections . For a nation that claim to be TOUGH we sure fall easy for FEAR.
Posted by: sgd | September 3, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
There is truth to what Biden is saying, but both parties are complicent.
Posted by: Ben Straub | September 3, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
David: “Did he come up with this on his own or copy it from someone else?”
I think he got it from the McCain campaign, which means it originally came from Wikipedia.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
You know, even if Palin is a secessionist, I’d take her over McCain.
She’s Miss Congeniality. He’s Senator Hothead.
Its all about temperment. Some got it and some just have a temper.
Posted by: Paul | September 3, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
Seems to me the republican party is playing Palin for all the free press from the so called liberal media.
I call for the media to put attention back on the real issues such as our faultering economy, NO Energy plan, Worst Healthcare system around, Abuse of the constitution, disregard for the middle class.
Going to war for no reason in Iraq.
Failing to get Bin Laden while diverting to Iraq.
Failing to realize high oil gave russia iran and Opec to much of our treasury and now they have invested in Military confrontation because of it.
Manipulation of the oil markets
As well as let the republican party pay to advertise their VP Choice instead of all the free Horse manure they are feeding the american people.
Posted by: V-man | September 3, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
All I see here is mud slinging.. on both sides. Why not take a look at each candidate and their stance on certain issues that matters to you. That’s what you should vote on.. by aligning your issues with the issues that each candidate is bringing on the table. I think what Obama says about VP candidate Palin.. that personal issue should not be included on this campaign. But the media is making it so. Not the Dem candidate Obama. He made that clear.
Posted by: CR5825 | September 3, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
WHAT WOULD JFK DO?
Governor Palin had the political courage to stand up to corrupt public officials, some of whom were in her own party. She exposed their corruption, took them on, and won.
Senator Obama, when confronted with racist rants coming from his own pastor, didn’t even have enough political courage to disavow him. Obama eventually DID disavow him but only AFTER Pastor Wright made disparaging, and humiliating remarks about the Senator and his motives at The Washington Press Club.
Which of these instances would JFK have been more likely to have included in his book, “Profiles In Courage”?
Everyone finds it quite fashionable to compare Senator Obama to JFK. I remember JFK, and trust me when I say, “Senator Obama is No JFK”.
Posted by: GeraldD | September 3, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Carrie,
I as a Democrat DO NOT WANT your support. I hope you and your kind who hate Obama and me and my kind RUN to McCain/Palin. I want you to feel it to your core when you lose and see yourself becoming extinct.
God, it really pleases me. This has been a long time coming. 400 years coming.
Posted by: sdanielle | September 3, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
tim abbey says “well if clinton had done his job in the first place there never would have been 9/11 we were he was offered osama bidladen and we didnt take him then” and j says “You obviously know nothing about how to win a fight”.
So let me make sure I understand…
Bush was in office for 9 months before 9/11, so it is Clinton’s fault…and then Bush – since he knows how to win a fight – fought back by sucker punching the wrong guy. Excellent logic.
Posted by: Joel | September 3, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Additionally, tonight the people will hear from Gov. Palin. Let’s hope she doesn’t try the same old tried and failed games the others are playing.
Fred Thompson played the old dirty politics, and you know, he can be on the attack all he wants but I have news for him and all others who feel the desire to follow him: no weapon formed against Sen. Obama – our next president – will prevail !
Additionally, McCain’s adviser Carly Fiorina said she’s appalled by the Obama campaign’s attempts to belittle Gov. Sarah Palin’s experience What’s TRULY appalling is for months now, McCain and his campaign have spoken and acted unjustly by trying to diminish Sen. obama’s experience and judgment. But they have failed.
Now that McCain’s judgment and experience is on the line again they are on the defense fiercely spinning and twisting every way they can to convince the American people of their actions.
It’s so pathetic to try and sell Palin’s experience by trying to diminish Sen. Obama’s. Their game won’t work for the intelligent people. Face it – Palin’s experience is NOT superior to Sen. Obama’s. Both of them have their own resume’s to be proud of. Both have noteworthy accomplishments.
Palin as a mayor and governor ; and Sen. Obama as a community organizer – 3yrs, constitutional and civil rights lawyer, 8 years in the Illinois State Senate and 4 years in the U.S. Senate where he worked on the Foreign Relations Committee and the Veterans Affairs Committee. He has a strong legislative record reforming Washington: First ethnics law in 25 years, welfare reform, health care, Earned Income Tax Credit, videotapping confessions, gulf coast family assistance, etc. etc.
It’s time for REAL change in Washington, it’s time to elect Barack Obama for president. It’s the Obama-Biden ticket that’s needed at this defining moment in our history because this team is wiser and stronger to meet the challenges this nation faces at home and abroad.
Posted by: Barack Obama IS Our next president | September 3, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Obama/Biden ’08. Enough said!!
Posted by: geecee | September 3, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
i, for one, do not thing sarah palin’s family is the example i want leading the country. that child’s baby should be due around the inauguration. just what we need… a set of proud grandparents being sworn in as their teenage daughter watches, holding her baby, with her teenage boyfriend/forced fiance by her side… yes, this is just what i want my daughter to grow up to be…
Posted by: lordy lordy... | September 3, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
BIDEN IS THE MAN.
Posted by: ROME | September 3, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Biden is pitiful. So, he raised kids wihtout a mother, who hadn’t? It should have made himm a nicer person, but it did not.
Posted by: Janice | September 3, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
republican’t posting here are funny considering the last original conservative thought was the square weal.
considering their platform this year consists of a noun, a verb, P.O.w.
americans are taking their country back from conservatives and this country is better and stronger for it.
Posted by: The Lord | September 3, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
maybe republican’t should worry less about biden being right and the fact palin’s church has said terrorist attacks on israel are god’s punishment for jews.
oh you didn’t know? 2 weeks ago, my friends. the words out on this one.
so now it should be asked is this
conservatives, do you support sarah palin and her church her who support terrorism against israel, yes or no?
Posted by: the Lord | September 3, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Carrie and Another Sarah: I don’t believe for a second that you are Democrats who plan to vote for McCain just because of his Palin choice. I don’t believe this because I don’t believe women are stupid.
If you’re actually being sincere, then I feel genuinely sorry for you. Voting for someone whose policies and ideology contradict your own values, as Palin’s contradict Clinton’s, just so you can pull the lever for a “Vagina-American,” is an insanely blinkered strategy.
Posted by: Ponk Boy | September 3, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Hey, remember the 1990s when conservatives screamed, “RULE OF LAW! RULE OF LAW!”
Karma is a biatch, Republicans.
Bush/Cheney and their accomplices should have been prosecuted long ago. Better late than never I guess.
Posted by: r€nato | September 3, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
This is rich. He claims that in an Obama-Biden administration we won’t have a President who doesn’t understand the constitution. Unfortunately, we would have a VP that doesn’t in that scenario.
Biden once said that as Foreign Relations Committee chair he would move to impeach Bush. Guess what, Joe! The Foreign Relations Committee chair doesn’t have the authority to impeach the president. The constitution gives that responsibility solely to the House of Representatives and you’re not a representative.
Quit desecrating the Constitution Joe!!
Posted by: Dave, Georgia | September 3, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
The magic words. Criminal charges.
Biden also promised that an Obama-Biden government would go through Bush administration data with “a fine-toothed comb” and pursue criminal charges if necessary.
Thank you Joe Biden.
Give em Hell.
Posted by: Langx | September 3, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Dave: Guess what.
When Obama wins Mukaskey is fired.
Obamam and Biden will hire there own AG who will go through all of Bushco’s crimes with a fine comb.
Then the Republican party will be taken apart for lying to this country for 8 years.
After they finish with you Republicans your going to wish Bush was impeached.
Posted by: Langx | September 3, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
I can’t wait for Obama to be president so I can quit my job and get free things! Hey, no incentive to work feels great – thanks Mr. O!
Posted by: greg | September 3, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Man, Palin is easier on the eyes and ears than Biden or Mrs BJ Clinton.
This is just one more reason McCain must win. To keep patriots at the hands of government and out of jail. A few more years of house cleaning and our government will be free of liberal roaches
McCain 08/ Palin 12 &16.
Posted by: Thor | September 3, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I will be voting for Mccain/Palin. Why you ask? Well, Mrs. Palin has said she wants Creationism taught in schools right alongside evolution. I know your fancy human “scientists” think this is absurd, but my buddy the Pope needs some remodeling done in the Vatican and this will be a great way to drum up support.
Just remember, my Father created everything you see in 7 days. Then, the only 2 humans he made talked to a snake and ate a poisoned apple which damned them for eternity. There will be a pop quiz at the end of class so make sure and take notes.
Posted by: Jesus | September 3, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
“If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation,” he said, “they will be pursued, not out of vengeance, not out of retribution – out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no one, no attorney general, no president, no one is above the law.”
I know he probably didn’t mean it, but I hope that if any Cheney Administration officials read that paragraph, at least a small chill went up their spines.
It deserves to.
Posted by: Peter Principle | September 3, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Obama-Biden should be saying that they will extradite any government offical brought up on “War Crime Charges” by the Hague or any other International Criminal Court.
Say good night Donny!
Posted by: Silly Ex-pat | September 3, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Being from Delaware, I’ve always had a personal affinity for Joe Biden. He’s done a great job for Delaware, and he’s always been a friend of law enforcement. He spoke at my police academy graduation (15 years ago) and my father knew him (former police chief).
Biden is a sharp individual, well-respected and very (i.e. extremely) well versed on both foreign and domestic affairs.
It will be interesting to see a VP debate between him and Sarah Palin. No disrespect to her, but I suspect it will be like bringing a butter knife to a gun fight.
Posted by: Chris | September 3, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Langx – Guess What.
You completely missed the point that Biden is essentially calling Bush stupid for partisan differences when Biden clearly doesn’t understand the constitution.
Of course, he also doesn’t know that Iran is not an Arab nation so I’m not very confident that his foreign diplomacy is very good or he is going to give Palin a thrashing in debate.
Posted by: Dave, Georgia | September 3, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Dave, Georgia,
Iran is not an Arab nation, it’s an Islamic State. Iraq is an Arab state.
Nice TRY but NO SOUP FOR YOU!
If you are going to make some one look stupid besides yourself. Get your facts straight!
Living out side the US, I have to take loads of crap for people like you!
Posted by: Silly Ex-pat | September 3, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Biden is Rainman without the math skills.
Posted by: mndasher | September 3, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Dave, Georgia,
As a mater of fact Iran “Not being in the Arab league” is GWBs and the Reps biggest issue. As well they sell in oil French currency not the green-back.
No worries if you vote McPalin you will be well to learn to use the Chinese Currency Renminbi, A.K.A Yuan.
Posted by: Silly Ex-pat | September 3, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
It seems the desire to bring up trumped up charges against the current admin, would reduce the Unites States to being much like third world countries. Where political enemies are made criminals or worse.
Not in my America!!!!
Posted by: mndasher | September 3, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Silly Ex-pat,
I apologize that the Delaware Senator called Iran ‘a bunch of Arabs’ and caused you to endure ‘loads of crap’.
If I ever move back to Delaware, I will proudly vote against Biden on behalf of all expatriates.
I didn’t ask for soup.
Posted by: Dave, Georgia | September 3, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Silly Ex-pat,
“Not being in the Arab leaque” is no issue at all to GWB. He is not permitted to run for a third term. The constitution doesn’t allow it.
Did you and all the speakers at last week’s DNC take a constitutional law course at Syracus University or the University of Delaware? You all have the same grasp as Sen. Biden.
Posted by: Dave, Georgia | September 3, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
mndasher,
A criminal is a criminal in what ever world you live in.
I would not call Germany a “third world country” (Developing Nation) that is where the charges come from.
As a mater of fact it’s not your America!
It’s everyones America! All Americans have a right to an opinion and a say in it.
Remember: “We The People” not “me the short sighted red-neck”
Posted by: Silly Ex-pat | September 3, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Did you hear that the Post Office is doing a commemorative stamp for Obama?
It’s going to be a copy of his resume.
Posted by: Jen06 | September 3, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Just like uncle Joe to always seem the angry white man. So why is he on Obama’s ticket?
Posted by: Mike | September 3, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Bla-blah-blah.
More empty blather from a back-bencher, do-nothing loud mouth from Delaware.
The Democrats made the same empty promises for when they took over Congress. The end result: hundreds of thousands of tax dollars wasted so Jerry Fathead Nadler and his ilk can get face time on C-Span.
By the way, Joey, how is the investigation into Congressman Jefferson’s frozen cash coming along?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot | September 3, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Biden also promised that an Obama-Biden government would go through Bush administration data with “a fine-toothed comb” and pursue criminal charges if necessary.
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He better be careful concerning criminal charges, Rezko can still talk.
and when he and Obama loose they can’t pardon Rezko……then we find out all about Obama Biden Rezko deals.
Posted by: cc | September 3, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Did you hear that the Post Office is doing a commemorative stamp for Obama?
It’s going to be a copy of his resume.
Posted by: Jen06 | Sep 3, 2008 4:23:18 PM
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hope you don’t mind Jen06 I’m going to borrow this one for e-mail :)
Posted by: CC | September 3, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Palin is Alaskan for Spears.
Expect Alaskan muskrat pictures to show up on the internet soon!
Posted by: Silly Ex-pat | September 3, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
As a woman, I am really concerned about someone as inexperienced as Palin reaching the White House before our dearest Hillary. Hillary is a SCHOLAR,(Bill fell in love with her mind!) and is thoroughly qualified in every dimension. Not to knock Palin, but her experience is highly questionable, at best. If she is elected, and doesn’t do anything less than a phenomenal job, it may put women back even further. Hillary would have made us proud and paved the way for many other female presidents.
And though I am not thrilled about Barack Obama, it turns my stomach to think Karl Rove’s pick of Palin would get to make history as the first female in the White House over Hillary.
As Barbara Streisand said, John McCain– “We are not that stupid!”
“Keep Going Alliance”
Hillary 2012 or 2016
Posted by: Just Not first matierial | September 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
you will LOVE this one
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/09/03/republican-insiders-caught-by-hot-mic-race-is-over/
Posted by: Silly Ex-pat | September 3, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/peggy-noonan-mike-murphy_n_123647.html
they know it’s over already hahahahah listen closely.
Posted by: This will make you laugh | September 3, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
I don’t make this stuff up I just report it!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/republican_race/2008/09/03/2008-09-03_teen_mom_support_group_jamie_lynn_spears.html
Posted by: Silly Ex-pat | September 3, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
That’s it, ACCOUNTABILITY! It’s a word that seems to have slipped from the American or at least the corporate American vocabulary, but under an Obama/Biden administration will come back into vogue again.
Posted by: kladinvt | September 3, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Sarah has EXECTUTIVE experience *running a government* (something NONE of the other candidates can actually boast, even John McCain as Governor of Alaska and got there by defeating the *incumbent* Republican Governor, who was definitely part of the “old school” and who WAS very much in the pocket of the big oil companies. We in Alaska wanted change – and we got it in the person of Sarah Palin!
Sarah Palin is everything she looks to be and more. Her approval rating as Governor of Alaska has been as high as 95% and is currently leveled out consistently in the upper 80 percentile throughout the state (and in both parties) – the HIGHEST approval rating of ANY sitting Governor.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 3, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
“all you have to do is look at the past and present democratic leaders to understand why this country looks weak to the world, alway’s running, dodging, and hiding the truth.”
Looks “weak”?! During my lifetime, the US has murdered literally millions of humans who did it no harm – people in Vietnam (what harm did they ever offer the US?) and people in Iraq and Cambodia and Nicaragua and Laos and…
This country looks like a psychopath!
As for lying, hiding the truth – that’s because this country lies and hides the truth. You probably don’t remember when the US shot down a completely innocent commercial jet liner that was following all the rules, killing along 300 people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655) and that’s because it was ignored (GHWBush: “I’ll never apologize for the United States of America. Ever, I don’t care what the facts are.”)
No one thinks the US is weak. They think the US is a pack of mad dogs who will decide to destroy some country on a whim like they did to so many others.
Posted by: Tom Human | September 3, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Going after these criminals should be a number one priority NOW, not later… Take a look at what mccain and palin have in mind for us… http://www.debatetherace08.com
Posted by: Mr Moderator | September 3, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Joe Biden – Law Degree – (Doctorate @ Syracuse) unknown class rank
Obama – Law Degree – (Doctorate @ Harvard) class rank of 212 out of 3829 or about 95th percentile or top 5% of his class
McCain – Naval Academy (4 yr degree) ranked 894 out of 899 or bottom 1% of his class
Palin – BS @ University of Idaho which took 5 years and a total of 3 schools – class rank (who cares – she’s a hot MILF)
McCain/Palin 2008!!!
Posted by: Education Level | September 4, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Why has it taking this long for the democrats to state that they are going to investigate Bush/Cheney and their criminal crimes and destruction of our nation, even if it has to be in the next presidency.
The republicans as far as I am concern set Clinton up with the Lewinsky trap , and he fell for it.
No one keep their dress with stains on it for years and let people tape their conversations unless it is a plan sting , in this cast by the right wing republicans like Hillary has previously stated , and her husband foolishly feel for.
So why in the h… were/are the democrats not all over Bush/Cheney criminal crimes and corruption that are not only criminal but , are not in plain site. Most of the investigational facts has already been exposed for people to access, read or do their term papers or any research;
Of course this is if they do not set in front of the republican propaganda BS machines like Fox news? and Rush the criminal pill popper and asorb all their lies and BS…
Clinton lies were self inflicked and hurts him and his family , Bush/Cheney and the whole d… right wing mob has hurt our country , military , honor , constitution and has destroyed our country , with their arrogant , deceitful , hateful crimes against our citizens and their country
The republicans have shown they do not follow the teaching of their “supposedly” Christian faith , nor do they care or protect our country , flag (which they drag in front of them where ever they wish to draw attention to themselves.
Russia , China and other countries has shown more respect for our flag and country then Bush or Cheney and their criminal mob…
Posted by: Sarah | September 4, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
Why has it taking this long for the democrats to state that they are going to investigate Bush/Cheney and their criminal crimes and destruction of our nation, even if it has to be in the next presidency.
The republicans as far as I am concern set Clinton up with the Lewinsky trap , and he fell for it.
No one keep their dress with stains on it for years and let people tape their conversations unless it is a plan sting , in this cast by the right wing republicans like Hillary has previously stated , and her husband foolishly feel for.
So why in the h… were/are the democrats not all over Bush/Cheney criminal crimes and corruption that are not only criminal but , are not in plain site. Most of the investigational facts has already been exposed for people to access, read or do their term papers or any research;
Of course this is if they do not set in front of the republican propaganda BS machines like Fox news? and Rush the criminal pill popper and asorb all their lies and BS…
Clinton lies were self inflicked and hurts him and his family , Bush/Cheney and the whole d… right wing mob has hurt our country , military , honor , constitution and has destroyed our country , with their arrogant , deceitful , hateful crimes against our citizens and their country
The republicans have shown they do not follow the teaching of their “supposedly” Christian faith , nor do they care or protect our country , flag (which they drag in front of them where ever they wish to draw attention to themselves.
Russia , China and other countries has shown more respect for our flag and country then Bush or Cheney and their criminal mob…
Posted by: Sarah | September 4, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
The prospect of hearings and investigations is a complete non starter for undecideds. Good for the base but it will never happen. But the base only needs the prospect of it happening. They’re being played and eating it up as usual. Kind of like Obama, who was against FISA before he voted to reauthorize it. The base just knows he was against it. Fools.
Posted by: Trip T. | September 4, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
I agree with Biden, that we should judge the Bush’s adminisration, no one is above the law and no money can save you now!!! I might not really believe what Obama says, and I surely do not want Mccain, nor palin. I wish Hilary was on, but I am not voting for Palin just because she is a woman lol that is underminding my inteligence. nor voting for color. I am not happy with either, is like voting for a douchbag or a turd sandwich (;) I think Biden speach helped a little.
Posted by: Liz | September 4, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
I agree with you Sarah!! I ask myself the same question everyday!!!
Posted by: Liz | September 4, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Joe Biden was against NObama before he was for him? Biden, just like NObama has no executive experience. None. Or as Rudy said “NADA.” They are a complete joke and its hard to belive the amount of people who think they can help the country. I guess that goes to show the demographics are correct: democrat voters are less educated than republican voters.
Posted by: johnny 2 in kalamazoo | September 4, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Joe Biden like his running mate, who wants a job that, in Biden’s words, does not lend itself to experience, is full of hot air. Famous (or infamous) for his plagarism. A new skelton in Obama’s cluttered closet is is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, who helped Obama get into Harvard. Al-Mansour is known for being a radical Muslim who suggested that the United States was plotting genocide against black Americans.Khalid al-Mansour was the mentor of Black Panther Party founder Huey Newton and his cohort, Bobby Seale.
Posted by: Mike Rostad | September 4, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
“If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation,” he said, “they will be pursued, not out of vengeance, not out of retribution…” Methinks Partisan Joe just protested too much. OF COURSE it will be out of vengeance, OF COURSE it will be out of retribution – the Democrats STILL haven’t forgotten that the Repubs caught Clinton lying (and opening himself up to top-level blackmail) about an intern young enough to be his daughter, and payback will be a b****! Let’s spend the next four years looking for something, anything that can be found in violation of some 1826 statute that’s never been used, so that we can show the American people that we respect the law! (When we’re not rewarding our Union friends, our radical friends, our lobbyist friends, our Chinese government friends…) This, however, should help the Repubs quite a bit; given that the last Impeachment was a waste and never even brought up selling missile technology to the Chinese for campaign contributions (Google “Johnny Trie” and similar), the enthusiasm of the public for ANOTHER show trial just about ought to crater the Socialists for another generation. It’s a shame we’ll have to suffer through their pandering first.
Posted by: James | September 4, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
I am reading these comments and the only thing that I can think of for either side is “Why do most of these people just use the same retoric over and over again?” Shouldn’t both sides learn more about the issues and stop the personal attacks. Shouldn’t the candidates be chosen by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin or their gender. Personally I read and listen to both sides and go to their websites on both sides. Learn about the candidates and their issues and make an informed decision.
I get the same thing from both sides of the news media. They both attack the other and a lot of times things that were said or done are blown out of proportion just to get a response.
As far as Biden wanting to go after Bush, last time I looked, Bush isn’t running for president this time around. Going after a president after he left office is just vindictive and petty. Could you mention how libs would react if Bush had said the same about Clinton. People, let’s stick to the facts and move forward, not backward.
Posted by: MLJ1728 | September 4, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
What is Nobama/Blinden offering US that haven’t been offered before by the libs?
A little CHANGE in my pocket is HOPE I can believe in…. I would love to own 7.. no 70.. no 700 HOMES..
Posted by: Bibster | September 4, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Obama and the dems are offering the same things hillary was/is offering. anything they can to get the votes they need. the white house is so close they can taste it. can anyone say pandering? oh and doesn’t it bother anyone that the american people are being played as fools by the obama factory. lowering capital gains tax on small business, left out that he will raise capital gains tax on those who actually pay it, the individual investers the people. oh and i guess i had forgotten that bush votes in the senate.
Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
“We will not have a president who doesn’t understand the Constitution. And I will not be a vice-president who thinks he’s not part of any of the three branches of government.”
This is a blatant lie. Mr. Obama obviously does not understand the Constitution of the United States because he stated that Mr. Biden will be part of the Executive Branch, even though our Constitution clearly places the Vice President in the Legislative Branch as President of the Senate.
Posted by: Theresa Jones | September 4, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Funny the Republicnas should bring up Biden’s comments about Obama when George Bush called McCain a homosexual and father to a black baby.
Posted by: Chuck | September 4, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
“Biden also promised that an Obama-Biden government would go through Bush administration data with a fine-toothed comb and pursue criminal charges if necessary.”
Biden and the rest of you prepared to try to lynch an ex-president because his policies and philosophies disagree with yours, and especially because he won and your candidates lost, better hope that he is not as evil as you think that he is.
If I were president, and knew that I would go on trial and to jail as soon as I was out of office, I would find a way to stay in office. Perhaps manufacture a crisis, claim that the election was wrong, something so that I could issue a slew of executive orders and round up my enemies and exterminate them before they could do the same to me. There are plenty of 3rd world countries that I could use for an example of what to do, Kenya being merely the latest.
If Bush is really the devil incarnate, and BO/JB want to stay alive long enough to enjoy their election, if they get elected, they should not threaten him.
Of course, Bush may be a really nice guy who has just made some mistakes while trying really hard.
Posted by: Frank | September 4, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Good old Joe Biden, the very guy who said Obama was “clean and articulate.” Now he’s playing second fiddle to the
“clean and articulate” one who has damned near zero credentials, on anything other than making a good, tele-prompted speech. I think I know what Obama was thinking by picking Joe. He sure as hell didn’t pick someone who would challenge his intellect! The two of them combined have the common sense of a grape seed. Let’s see, government is too big and has spent too much money so, what we will do is spend a hell of a lot more money and “tax the rich” to pay for it. Carter tried that one, it was a disaster and Carter definitely had less common sense than a grape seed.
Posted by: Keith | September 4, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Has anyone noticed how out of sight the Clintons have been since the Dem convention? So much for Obama wanting her help. Don’t get me wrong, not seeing her face, either of the Clinton’s faces is great but it sure didn’t take long for Obama to dispose of them after he used them. Bottom line, the main reason Obama did not want Hillary on the ticket was either 1. His ego could not stand anyone else getting attention so he picked a door knob like Biden or 2. She told him to go to hell and she didn’t want it anyway!
Posted by: Keith | September 4, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Biden is a blow hard and a fool. He is a dsigrace to this country. He should spend less time loving himself and more time doing his job.
Posted by: Paul | September 4, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
If you want four more years of inexperience and bumbling, elect Obusha I mean Obama.
Biden’s never retracted his comments about Obama being inexperienced. He’s just keeping quiet about it so he can finally get into the White House after his own failed campaign how many years ago? Biden realizes that hitching his horse to Obusha will be his only chance to serve in the executive branch.
Here’s hoping Obusha has many more years in the Senate, courtesy of the Chicago Political Machine and beltway insider network.
Like his fellow coke-user and inexperienced buffoon George Bush, Barack Obusha has no clue, just ambition and a political machine to back him up.
Posted by: Hakeem | September 5, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
I am a life long republican, but do not understand my fellow republican’s jubilation! Has the party faithful forgot why McCain is known as a maverick; he has spent a large part of his senate career voting with the Dem’s, and lady Palin, if you look at her career as gov of Alaska has alighned herself with Alaska democrats.
I personally am ashamed of the party I have invested so much time and resources in, hell we even had liberman a so called independent( Democrat) address our convention, I am sorry to say however this campaign turns out the democrats come out as winners, has our Grand Ole Party moved so far left that we must run democrats disguised as conservatives, even our convention theme echoed the DNC message change, hello; we have been in control for 8 years! It seems to me that we republicans have watered down our message as conservatives and in the process shot our selves in the foot!
god bless America
Posted by: tim | September 6, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
There are too many pieces of truth in different shapes and forms that, like a huge puzzle, need to be connected so we can see the larger picture.
The events of 9/11 are clearly filled with more questions than answers…and many of the “official” answers are woefully incomplete, with clear omissions of fact and distortions.
For example:
– Scientific evidence clearly shows explosives were planted in the WTC and Building 7. They were planted there for a purpose…that coincided with the tragedy of that fateful day. And that takes considerable advance preparation which means….somebody knew in advance what was coming! Who? Why?
– The president’s brother, Marvin Bush, was one of the principles of the organization in charge of security of the WTC weeks before. This needs further investigation.
– The president, George W. Bush, is reported to have attempted to block creation of the 9/11 Commission. Why? Most of those serving on the commision had serious conflicts of interest, it was reported.
– There were many “others” who knew 9/11 was coming beforehand. How else do you explain the huge surge in put-options on American and United Airlines stock, reportedly purchased by representatives of the Carlyle Group (which owns Halliburton) which also is made up of many powerful American interests, and others?
– How do you explain the owner of the WTC real estate, Mr.Silverstein, purchasing multi millions in insurance protection for his property in weeks or months before 9/11? Did the Tooth Fairy clue him in what was about to happen?
– Why did NORAD fail completely for the very first time in its history? Are we to believe some terrorists hiding in caves in Afghanistan were cordially invited into NORAD’s headquarters and asked to shut it down? The system failed, I believe, very deliberately!
– Why is al Qaeda made the bogeyman for 9/11 when al Qaeda was a creation of our own government, the CIA, back in 1979? And what did Saddam have to do with 9/11? Nothing!
– 9/11 turned out to be the “second Pearl Harbor” specifically sought by PNAC as a catalyst for expanding American power. Coincidence? Yeah right….
These are just a few. There is a huge smokescreen hiding the truth about 9/11.
I speak as a former Reagan Republican who worked for a popular former GOP governor of Indiana, and later a Republican Member of Congress.
This is the most corrupt administration I have ever seen! Indictments, convictions, wrongdoing everywhere you turn. Trashing the Constitution, something I never thought a true conservative would ever do! Every conservative principle I can think of has been violated by the Bush White House and everyone connected to it.
Watergate was a trifling compared to this. Bill Clinton, who is far from perfect, was impeached for lying about an affair?
What about the much more serious and deadly lies and deceptions of war by the spin-meisters controlling the political puppets they own…Bush/Cheney and the rest?
Wrong is wrong. And lies are lies, no matter which political labels you sling about in denial of something terribly, terribly wrong in America!
Posted by: Jon Shafer | September 7, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm