Biden Says McCain Suffered “Fatal” Loss in Debate

No one care what Biden says except Biden.
Biden/Obama = Liar/Liar the sequel.
Lets talk about “fatal”. How about taking 9000 votes and making them your running mate while passing up 18,000,000 votes….wait, fatal and stupid! Dumb and Dumber = Barack and Michelle, ego trumped common sense; how typical. They should have been rappers intsead of politcians

Biden, you’re delusional.
your boy Obama looked like a desperately angry, gay halloween monster. Not presidential at all.
McCain was calm, knowledgeable, presidential.

Obama the magic negro is going to prison.

lol mary
probably the most idiotic attack i have ever seen on these boards, and these boards are pretty silly sometimes….
halloween monster?
i mean waht? lol…
do you really think obama looked desperate? because tahts not exactly what ive been hearing…
if anything mccain looked a little asleep at hte beginning. later on mccain came alive, but was so condescending by not engaging his opponent…
this is a debate… you engage each other. especially this kind of debate where the candidates were to engage each other in back n forths

McCain definetly won. He came across as calm, mature and presidential. Obama looked nervous and angry, and like he was at a college debate. Definetely non-presidential.

Be careful Obama camp of not overplaying your hand.

Lol Mary, your right. That’s exactly what I was thinking when I was watching the debate.

mccain, do you prefer boxers or briefs?
mccain: Depends

The Chicago Tribune, in Obama’s own state,which originally supported Obama, says McCain won. He is being deserted by all his original backers now that they see and find out what he really is…not qualified for the highest office,

McCain won, he managed to frustrate Obama and it showed, he shook him. In fact it was almost funny to watch, considering we hear so much from the press about McCain’s temper. Obama can sometimes be an eloquent speaker, but he sounded like he was reading from a book, there was no first hand knowledge. When Obama didn’t know something he completely turns it around to something else, ie, Russia invading Georgia ends up with a speech about alternative fuel. Obama isn’t qualified to POTUS.

Hey Puff Roderick,
typical = egotistical liberals!
egotistical = rappers (i.e. P. “Alaska Mother F’er” Diddy, Ludacris – who wished paralysis on McCain)
Such a shame, 12.9 % of the US population is still complaining about racism. Been here all these years and still marching and complaining about the “US of KKK A” (rev wright)…lol… Hey PRoddy ,Change is the hand on the end of your wrist! Not the wrist with a handcuff on it! The other one.
Ya know, I kind of Hope that B. Diddy and Lil M get in the White House so that Jesse J, J. Wright, Al S, Crazy Louie F and THAT KLAN will have to shut the F up!

Mccain looked like what he is last night , Old , mean , and untruthful. He left his wife after she waited for him. He will say what ever is needed at the moment. He thinks our country is going to bully the world into giving us anything we want,and he came out saying Mission Accomplished on Iraq. The “surge ” is a police action , and as we saw during Katrina when the police leave all hell will happen . He will finish what Bush started and destroy America if elected. He will bomb Iran and may even start a war with Russia, he thinks victory is possible,people die on both sides and other people want to think glory. When you are dead there is no glory.

Goog night for Obama. He absolutely did well in the debate. It was a wonderful night for Obama.
Obama/Biden ’08

All polls taken after the debate show that Obama won the debate. Probably the fact that he wants to cut taxes for 95 percent of American families is important for many voters. Obama showed a strong command of the issues, especially how to fix the economy and how to restore confidence and respect for the United States in the world.

Are we going to fight a war with SPAIN?
Go home McShame!

It was a tie and for this to be mccains strong suit he should haved blown Obama… but he didn’t…

I am now voting for Obama. As he said last night He “has a bracelet too”.
psych!-what a loser. Obama the mini-me of whoever he debates. Whenever he follows an answer he agrees because he is clueless. He agreed with Clinton and then McCain.

Doesn’t matter. We patriots are going to put down liberals after Nov 4 no matter who wins. The traitorous comments and actions from most far left liberals cannot go unpunished.
One day at a time.

Jon
I’m afraid youre exposing a shallowness that isnt very becoming. You claim that McCain didnt win because, he LOOKED less presidential? How utterly ridiculous. As an analogy what would you rather have to get to work everyday,, a car that looks fabulous but has no engine, or a car that looks ok, but actually can get you to your destination everyday?
I suggest instead of looking, close your eyes and listen. You will be much better enlightened.

Republicans and GOP bakers,your “GAMBLE” is over.Voters are not buying your “BULL SH….” It is “ECONOMY STUPID”.Just wait until November 4. America will respond against Bush-Chainey-Mccain-Palin. Just wait for nov.4 whole America will give their judgement.I am confident.
BARAK/BIDEN”08

Obama held his own while McCain was a frustrated old man, which showed! Only point McCain could make was the surge issue.. McCain, if you didn’t vote, Yes, to this bogus Iraq war, we’d have no need for a surge.. Your behavior is erratic, unsettling and your judgement lacking..
Obama / Biden in ’08

The Chicago Tribune is a Republican newspaper, and even they could only manage to say that they thought McCain might have won by a very small measure. They also said he certainly did not hit it out of the ballpark by any measure – hardly a ringing endorsement. In order to get a real measure, one has to look at a variety of sources, and overwhelmingly, most sources declare Obama the winner of the debate.
I thought Joe Biden was absolutely correct in his post debate analysis.
Sarah Palin – come out, come out wherever you are! (And when you do, please be sure to bring your tax returns with you!)

WHERE IS SARAH PALIN AS A SURROGATE FOR McCAIN??

I was dissapointed in this debate. Both candidates seemed to be on the campaign trail. Obama needs to show more emotion, that he connects with people. I do think he held his own on foreign polices. McCain showed some emotion about veterans. He was strange he did not look Obama in the eye? That says to me he is insecure. What about the economy!! They did not go into the future problems at all. Not very reassuring to me.
As far as Palin Biden debate. God help us if Palin wins. She is not ready to be a President much less Vice President.

courtesy realclear politics.
The Los Angeles Times says it was too close to call:
“In a debate that both candidates could ill-afford to lose Friday night, neither did. John McCain proved he was resolute and tough; Barack Obama demonstrated that he was smart and polished. And in this case, a tie could be said to favor either.”
The Wall St. Journal gives round one to McCain:
“The first Presidential debate last night was notable for playing to type. Neither candidate broke from talking points, neither one made a gaffe, and both men won on the grounds where they are most comfortable — John McCain on foreign policy, and Barack Obama on domestic issues…
As planned by the commission on debates, most of the night was devoted to foreign policy and there we give the clear edge to Mr. McCain.”
The Boston Globe gives the edge to Obama:
“Obama was assured and a bit cerebral, showing a command of policy but also reaching for a grander vision of an America that could be admired and respected again in the world.”
Not surprisingly, the New York Times thinks McCain didn’t do well:
“But Mr. McCain’s talk of experience too often made him sound like a tinny echo of the 20th century. At one point, he talked about how Ronald Reagan’s “S.D.I.” helped end the cold war. We suspect that few people under the age of 50 caught the reference. If he was reaching for Reagan’s affable style, he missed by a mile, clenching his teeth and sounding crotchety where Reagan was sunny and avuncular.”
Equally as unsurprising, the conservative Pittsburgh Tribune-Review says Obama bombed:
“Throw in his bumbling, stumbling and naivete on national security and foreign policy and Barack Obama came across last night as exactly what he is — one of the most inexperienced politicians ever nominated for president…And John McCain never looked more presidential.”
The Chicago Sun-Times doesn’t declare a winner, but says the debate brought out the best in both men:
“On Friday night, they got it right. At their first debate, John McCain and Barack Obama reminded the nation that two fine candidates are running for president, both of them smart, informed and passionate — everything those silly attack ads would have you believe they are not…This was American politics at its best.”
The Rocky Mountain News was also impressed by both men:
“Now that is what we’ve been waiting for. A spirited engagement over substantive issues by two serious men.”
So was the Dallas Morning News:
“John McCain and Barack Obama both delivered White House-worthy performances, staying on message and generally avoiding the pitfalls that have tripped them up in the past. Neither distinguished himself for better or worse with a defining moment – there was no watch checking, impatient sighing or “You’re no Jack Kennedy” quip for the ages.”
The St. Petersburg Times, however, thought the candidates left voters wanting:
“Voters listening for straight talk Friday night from Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain about a historic financial crisis or the war in Iraq would be still waiting this morning. In their first presidential debate, neither candidate offered a candid evaluation of how the two biggest issues facing this country will affect the next president’s ability to carry out his agenda. Instead, they spent 90 minutes reinforcing campaign themes that seemed oddly out of touch and failed to frankly acknowledge the grave challenges facing this country.”
The Kansas City Star said Obama won easily:
“Americans looking for a warrior in the White House surely warmed to GOP Sen. John McCain’s scrappy debate performance Friday night. But Democrat Barack Obama turned in the more statesmanlike effort. He was unflappable even under McCain’s often condescending attacks. While McCain went for punches, Obama scored points with sound arguments.”
The Sacramento Bee says last night settled nothing:
“Indeed, if this first debate settled anything, it was that this campaign will be fought out as a contest between competing virtues: youth vs. experience, toughness vs. flexibility, and perhaps most of all, one compelling life story against another…
Within minutes, both campaigns claimed victory, but it is far too early for that. Both can fairly claim to have staked out their ground. If the candidates have their way, victory is likely to depend less on the details of their positions than on whose life story resonates most with the American people. The question is whether voters will settle for that.”
The Jackson Clarion-Ledger says each candidate won in their own respective ways:
If the debate were judged on experience, McCain won hands down. If judged on “a broader vision” that departs from past mistakes, Obama won handily.
Americans have a clear choice.
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The biggest losers are McCain / Palin on Nov 4th!
Obama / Biden next Pres & VP

It is appalling how many people here are actually obsessed with “looking presidential”. This isnt Miss America people. I could care less who looks presidential. I want this country to be in the hands of someone who puts this country first. McCain/Palin into the future!!!.

james
you come off like a desperate school child. McCain absolutely trumped nobama in the first debate.
Accept your schooling, and move on.

Hey,where was Sarah? Is she still part of the Palin/McCain ticket? I haven’t seen hide nor hair of the beauty queen / moron since her “interview” with softball tosser Katie Couric. I guess she doesn’t have a coherent opinion about the debate like everything else.

John McCain will say anything, but the truth, to win the Presidency!
JOHN McCAIN’S FAILING RECORD ON RETIREMENT SECURITY
When it comes to issues affecting our aging population, once again Sen. John McCain has proven himself out of touch, aloof and in league with President Bush. He supported Bush’s plan to risk our Social Security benefits through privatization, voted to raise the Medicare eligibility age and missed a critical vote to reduce prescription drug costs for seniors.
McCAIN ABANDONED UNION RETIREES
McCain Voted Against Providing Health Insurance for Retirees of Bankrupt Steel Companies. McCain voted against a measure to provide temporary health insurance assistance to retirees of bankrupt steel companies. [S. Amdt. 3433, Vote #117, 5/21/02]
McCAIN WANTS TO PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY
McCain Voted for Bush’s 2006 Social Security Privatization Plan. In 2006, McCain voted for the Social Security Reserve Fund. The proposal would shift Social Security’s annual surpluses into a reserve account that would be converted into risky private accounts. [SCR 83, Vote #68, 3/16/06; SCR 83, Vote #68, 3/16/06]
In 2000 McCain Wanted to Divert Social Security Money to Private Accounts. The Wall Street Journal reported that “[a] centerpiece of a McCain presidential bid in 2000 was a plan to divert a portion of Social Security payroll taxes to fund private accounts, much as President Bush proposed unsuccessfully.” The plan would put workers’ retirement money into the risky market and reduce the amount of Social Security payments they would receive from the government. The plan would undermine the Social Security system. [Wall Street Journal, 3/3/08]
McCain STILL Proposes Privatizing Social Security—Despite What His Website Says. McCain told the Wall Street Journal he still backs a system of private retirement accounts that he supported in 2000 and President Bush pushed unsuccessfully. The Journal reported he “disowned” details of a proposal on his 2008 campaign website that says he would “supplement” the existing Social Security system with personally managed accounts. But when asked about the position change he denied it and promised to change the website to reflect his true position. “I’m totally in favor of personal savings accounts… As part of Social Security reform, I believe that private savings accounts are a part of it—along the lines that President Bush proposed,” McCain told the Journal.[Wall Street Journal, 3/3/08; Campaign Website, accessed 3/3/08]
McCain Might Raise the Retirement Age and Reduce Cost-of-Living Adjustments. “[T]he McCain campaign says the candidate intends to keep Social Security solvent by reducing the growth in benefits over the coming decades to match projected growth in payroll tax revenues. Among the options are extending the retirement age to 68 and reducing cost-of-living adjustments, but the campaign hasn’t made any final decisions. ‘You can’t keep promises made to retirees,’ said Mr. Holtz-Eakin, McCain’s chief economic aide.” [Wall Street Journal, 3/3/08]
McCain Supported Deep Cuts That Put Social Security Benefits at Risk. In 2005, McCain supported a Social Security plan that would require deep benefit cuts or a massive increase in debt. That same year, McCain voted against prioritizing Social Security solvency over tax cuts for the wealthy. [SCR 18, Vote #49, 3/15/05; S. Amdt. 144 to SCR 18, Vote #47, 3/15/05]
McCain Voted to Use Social Security Money to Pay Off National Debt. In 2003, McCain voted to use Social Security funds to pay off federal debt. [HJR 51, Vote #201, 5/23/03]
McCain Voted Against Protecting Social Security Solvency with a Strategic Reserve. In 2001, McCain opposed reducing tax cuts for the wealthy to create a strategic reserve for Social Security. In the same year, McCain voted against a proposal to create “lockboxes” to protect Social Security and Medicare. [H.R. 1836, Senate RPC, Vote #145, 5/22/01; S. Amdt. 29, Vote #22, 3/13/01]
McCain Voted to Replace Social Security with Risk-Based Investments. In 1998, McCain voted twice to replace Social Security’s guaranteed benefits with income from risk-based private investments. [SCR 86, Vote #56, 4/1/98; SCR 86, Vote #77, 4/1/98]
McCAIN ATTACKED MEDICARE
McCain Voted to Cut Billions from Medicare. McCain voted for the budget reconciliation bill that reduced spending on Medicare by $6.4 billion by requiring that beneficiariespurchase medical equipment and cutting payments to home health care providers. [S. 1932, Vote #363, 12/21/05; Congressional Quarterly, 12/26/05]
McCain Missed Critical Vote to Bargain for Lower Prescription Drug Prices for Seniors. McCain missed a vote to amend Medicare Part D so Medicare could negotiate lower prices for prescription drugs, just like the Department of Veterans Affairs does. Prices for prescription drugs under Medicare Part D are 50 percent higher than those for veterans because the VA can bargain. [S. 3, Vote #132, 4/18/07; New York Times, 4/19/07; Families USA, 1/07]
McCain Voted for Steep Increases in Seniors’ Medicare Premiums. McCain voted against protecting seniors from steep increases in their Medicare Part B premiums. Seniors faced the premium increase because Congress increased Medicare payments to physicians but failed to enact savings from Medicare payments to private health plans. [S. 1932, Vote #287, 11/3/05]
McCain Voted to Raise Medicare Eligibility Age. In 1997, McCain voted to support provisions that would increase the age for Medicare eligibility from 65 to 67 and impose a new $5 co-payment for home health care visits. [S. 947, Vote #112, 6/24/97; S. Amdt. 445, Vote #115, 6/25/97]
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Biden must have been asleep, because all of us here in PA think it was a landslide victory for McCain. In the Scranton/WilkesBarre area of Northeastern PA a large group of predominantly democrat voters watched the debate and then voted afterward as to who they thought won. McCain got 75% of democrats. Barak Obama seems very rehearsed (book smart) whereas John McCain drew on his experience. He looked so much more presidential. All of the liberal biased media look at poise, posture and all of these other things and then rate them a tie or even have Obama ahead. But the people who will actually decide the vote on Nov. 4th have it as a landslide victory for John McCain. It wasn’t even close.

I have been on the fence up to this point, but after last night’s disrepectful, disdainful treatment of McCain to Obama, I have just had it. We have had eight years of Bush/Cheney looking down on the American people. I thought John McCain was different, but the person I saw was angry and disrepectful. Barack Obama has every right to be on that stage with him, and McCain couldn’t even bring himself to look him in the eye. Where is the John McCain of 2000? That performance was beneath him and I, for one, do not want to have four more years of anger, with the reputation of the United States at an all time low. Obama had a much more conciliatory, consensus oriented tone and demeanor. We need dignity restored to the office of the President of the United States, and a different tone if we are to restore the international reputation of the United States, which Christianne Amanpour clearly explained before the debate on CNN is at an historic, all time low. We just cannot afford McCain, and we certainly cannot afford the chance that the clueless Palin would ascend to the office of President of the United States.

Don’t vote DIPSTICK and LIPSTICK into the Whitehouse.. It’d be a major disappointment and disgrace.
Obama / Biden in ’08

Hey Biden you got Sh!+ on your nose .Get real you were one of the biggest supporters of the war and Iraq having weapons and you said Nuclear Weapoans You also said Mr Obama is not qualified to lead this country.

The last time I checked, I don’t know about the rest of you here. This is 2008 and the new President will be moving this country and the world forward for 2009 +++++ …Why is it that McCain constantly talks about things in the past. Example: Reagen, Gindrich, Churchill, Eisenhower and the VietNam WAR!!! HELL this is 2008, Home Foreclosures, Dis-Respected Around the World, 4500 Dead in Iraq, Economy in a shambles… And he wants to talk about the past, Gimme A Break!!! If you want the past and not the future then I would advice listening to the old Jethro Tull’s “Living In The Past” that’s 70′s ish… Please OBAMA 08′

No one care what I say. Duh. I not smart enought to spel proparly!

John McCain kept hammering on Obama last night for his judgment or lack thereof. I don’t think anyone who saw Sarah Palin’s interview with Katie Couric could possible think that John McCain exercised good judgment in possibly putting the running of the United States of American in her hands. This is not a personal attack, this is an objective opinion regarding her ability to answer even the most basic policy questions. Immediately, top level conservatives began calling for Palin to step down “for the good of the country and her party.” The judgment on Iraq is in the past, but John McCain continues to show erratic behavior in rushing to the White House, flip flopping on participation in the debate, etc. But to me, the insurmountable poor judgment to add Sarah Palin to his ticket and endanger the future of all Americans is unforgivable. Please think of your children and grandchildren and their financial/military future when you place your vote in November.

Ut Oh! Biden got loose while Obama was not watching!! Why does Obama not hire some minders for Old Joe, and keep him away from the microphone? Poor old guy just cannot help himself!

Isn’t it kind of pointless to be interviewing the running mate in a political contest on how well their partner did? Yet several news orgs put Biden up there for all to see and listen to. Were they expecting perhaps that Biden would make another gaffe? The MSM is looking like the headless horseman, galloping here and there trying to stir up and instill fear in the villagers. Not to worry, Halloween is coming.

McCain was clearly far more experienced in the area of foreign policy and national security than Obama. However, what good have all these long years of experiences done to him if he made such fatal judgments with regards to invading Iraq and neglecting the real battlefield for the War on Terror, Afghanistan?
He sounded very well-informed about those places that he has visited. But strangely, he couldn’t weave all those individual observations into a bigger global strategic picture. It was actually Obama who was able to present an overarching global strategic vision which was also forward looking.
Overall, in the area of foreign policy, McCain did come across as more experienced. However, one is left with the feeling that those experiences have not really put him in a better position to be commander-in-chief than Obama. In fact, what I found most striking was his narrow, local vision, his inability to take a look at the bigger picture. That sounds like the mentality of a good soldier, not one of a real commander.

Mike W says “No one care what Biden says except Biden.’
______________________________________________
At least Biden is “allowed” to speak.

My wife commented on now Obama looked dark and sinister and even angry at times (and, God love her, she likes Obama over McCain).
She noticed that McCain would not make eye contact with Obama, implying that McCain thought he was better than Obama.
We both noticed Obama’s arrogance pointing at the moderator, interrupting constantly, the $hit eating grin on his face, and the fact that he couldn’t remember the name on his bracelet.
Anyone could have made this mistake, but it was very noticeable.

Biden, you’re delusional.
your boy Obama looked like a desperately angry, gay halloween monster. Not presidential at all.
McCain was calm, knowledgeable, presidential.
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Sorry sweetie but it was the grumpy old man who got his clock cleaned. I suppose you tuned out the the poll conducted right after the debate that showed Obama won handily!

CBS news poll among undecided voters… who won the debate
40% Obama
22% McCain
38% Draw

McCain blinked excessively and scowled at Obama. Obama was courteous but firm and maintained great eye contact. If we are scoring the debate based on non-verbal communication, Obama totally outclassed McCain.

… but we all know that CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, Us Weekly, Rolling Stone, Oprah (did I leave anyone out?) are in the tank for Obama.

Biden has just proven he is just about as intelligent as Sarah Palin.
I would rate the debate as a tie, but several on-line polls show McCain winning, some by a fairly wide margin.
Obama spoke very well last night, and so did McCain; it was probably their BEST ad-lib performance so far in this campaign.
Jim Lehrer did a good job as moderator, and the debate was interesting. But for Biden to say McCain “suffered a fatal loss” is absolutely asinine.

I thought Obama was calm, cool and collected. A true statesmen. McCain on the other hand was angry, rude and wouldn’t look Obama in the eye. I found McCain’s constant “Obama doesn’t understand” unsettling because he wasn’t listening to what Obama had to say, concentrating instead on his own war stories. I also found it unsettling that McCain’s answer to everything is war and bullying.

Where was Sarah Palin last night? If she can not volley a few talking points in support of her ticket, how is she going to hold her own next week? It was glaringly obvious that the Republicans did not want her there. As far as the argument about who understands strategy vc. tactic- It is McCain who needs to be schooled. His entire campaign has been void of a comprehensive strategy and has instead clung to various tactics – racial divide, lies and smears, sarcasm, mockery,etc., in order to sway voters. This has put up nothing more than a smoke screen. When the smoke clears in November, we will see a democratic sweep.

I love the way the wingnuts are declaring a McSame victory — just like the ad the McCain camp put out BEFORE the debate even started! But the numbers paint a different picture, so they’ll have to go back to trying to make up new and sillier names for Barack (which is working just as well as choosing Palin did!)
Excessive blinking, the angry smile, not being able to look your opponent in the eye. Spin all ya want, but humans know what those cues mean. McCain lost more than he thinks, and the polls will show it. Not to mention that Biden just slaughtered McCain on all the major networks immediately afterwards! And where was Sarah Palin, who should have been on to answer Biden’s comments? Oh, that’s right — she’s not allowed to talk to the press! Bwahahahhahahahahahaha!
Too perfect!

Is foxnews in the tank for Obama?… their website poll has it 50-50. This poll 70-30 margin always favor McCain. Even conservatives believe Obama won.

samhiguchi
What debate were you watching. Why don’t you comment on the polls conducted right after the debate? McCain got slammed and you just can’t deal with reality…just like McGrumpy. Face it, pappy messed himself!

Russia vs. Georgia: McCain Immediately Identified Russia as Aggressor, Obama Echoed Bush Administration
McCain called Obama’s initial statement on the conflict in Georgia “naive.” It’s worth noting Obama’s words echoed those of the White House.
McCain: Well, I was interested in Senator Obama’s reaction to the Russian aggression against Georgia. His first statement was, “Both sides ought to show restraint.” Again, a little bit of naivete there. He doesn’t understand that Russia committed serious aggression against Georgia.
It’s true, as McCain said, that during the conflict between Georgia and Russia, Obama said, “Now is the time for Georgia and Russia to show restraint, and to avoid an escalation to full scale war” in his first statement on the conflict. But so did the White House. Press secretary Dana Perino said on Aug. 8, “We urge restraint on all sides – that violence would be curtailed and that direct dialogue could ensue in order to help resolve their differences.”
Source: Factcheck.org

I thought Obama came out on top. Unfortunately for McCain, his grumpy demeanor made him look old and bitter. He talks about bringing a spirit of bipartisanship back to Washington, but won’t even look Obama in the eye. I can’t help but wonder if McCain will end up being a divider instead of a uniter?

Yes. the Obama bloggers were up all night voting on internet polls. Except they could not skew the Drudgereport poll.

Seriously though, we all KNOW Obama is just a sock puppet for George Soros, so I don’t want him to win.
Did you see his monster makeup last night?
YIKES!

President Bush, you are indeed a miracle worker. People blame you for all financial problems the USA suffers today. President Bush, I would like to know just how did you create such a financial mess in only eight short years? Indeed, you must have a magic wand. Just look at the financial mess with the banks, the stock market, mortgage loans, credit card debt, high medical costs, people out of work, people losing their homes and list goes on and on to what seems infinity.
President Bush, admit it, you had help from the congress, the senate and previous presidential administrations. Confess, you did have help, didn‘t you?
Fear not, President Bush, Obama says he can fix it all with his magic wand. He will create more government that will require more tax dollars to run. He will duplicate all that has happened to the federal government in the past seventy years and more. He will give all the people everything that you could not give them in eight short years. That is what I call change.
Mr. President, as P.T. Barnum would say, “there’s a sucker born every minute”. If P.T. Barnum was alive today, I guess he would mostly be taking about US taxpayers. I wish you well, Mr. President. I know people will not remember you as the best President, but the worst is yet to come if Obama wins.

geevil
the phone polls too…
you know where the pollsters called them?
ugh
morons voted for Bush and Morons fight for Mccain.

Then again Obama looked like a gay monster in drag with all of that makeup.
Scary … and it’s not even Halloween!

Let’s figure this one out for ourselves.
New poll:
Who do you think won last nights debate?
A. John “Chipmunk Cheeks” McCain
B. Barak “Horse Chompers” Obama
C. Draw

Obama always gets a blank look on his face when a topic comes up that he really doesn’t know much about yet. And so, to save humiliation by being asked to give his views, he says he agrees with McCain.
I’m not going to vote or not vote for a candidate because he/she is good looking or because they are old and cranky looking.
Experience is important in this period of history. The new kid on the block just isn’t quite there yet.

Wow, it’s kinda sad to see the kool-aid chugging wingnuts at this level of denial. It’s one thing to believe McCain won – a dubious argument at best – but the sane world, including a lot of conservatives, are acknowledging that Obama performed very well. It must be strange to live in the wingnut universe, totally detached from all reality. It will come home on Nov. 4.

The elite pundants say McCain won
The people say Obama won
who has more votes?

I like to rely on my own consensus: the MSM
This way I know that Obama will always win.
He could burn down a building and be caught red-handed with a flame thrower but the MSM would say that McCain held a gun to Obama’s head and then McCain turned invisible as soon as the police showed up.
The MSM would believe it.

I’m an Independent which thought the debate actually went in McCain’s favor. There may be differences with people over the candidates, but McCain talked with experience and knowledge. Obama to me and my friends watching, seemed like a well rehearsed professor talking to his class, meaning he still seems to act like he’s better than everyone with better judgement. I did notice Obama seemed to want the commentator to stop McCain from talking by pointing at him acting like his point needs to be heard right now. McCain waited for his turn and showed more maturity and patience while Obama seemed to be on his heels on the defensive. Now, I am an Independent that is leaning further towards McCain now. McCain seemed to have a better plan on the issues than just and idea on the issues.

Scientific opinion polld gave it to Obama. Can’t argue w/ that! Obama won, hands down

It was the non verbals that counted the most last night.
again
McCain like that angry guy we all have in our lives that borders on unstable
could not make eye contact for fear of his own whacko temper that we have heard about from almost everyone who has ever worked with him…taking over.
Period.
Between Moron Palin and a guy who can’t make eye contact because he doesn’t have an adult’s ability to keep his temper in check…
this is the worst ticket we have ever seen in our countries history…
and that isn’t even looking at the trillions that John mccain has lost us because of his “experience”
on 3 seperate occasions
s&l, thwe Iraq war and now deregulating wall street and hiring the people who did it to write our economic plans for the next 4 years.
throw whacko and dummy to the curb.

Experience is important in this period of history. The new kid on the block just isn’t quite there yet.
Posted by: tricias_mind |
That’s right, vote for the man who couldn’t even look his opponet in the eye. Shifty is always a sign of trustworthiness. That old man didn’t say one thing memorable last night. You can vote for whoever you like but don’t expect the rest of us to ignore the fact that McCain is a relic who has no clue about how to move this country forward. Are any of you even aware that when he got together with his buddies to discuss this bailout, one of the things he wanted was less of the regulation that is needed? What the hell is wrong with you people? I’ll leave you all with this sobering thought…the next 2 debates will focus on the economy. If you think the grumpy old man loooked bad last night, wait until he tries to explain anything that’s going on with this economy and how he plans to fix it. Here’s a hint…it won’t be about earmarks!

Maybe we should do a poll on the hatred being expressed in this forum.
So far, the Obama supporters would win, but there are plenty of McCain supporters who are just as hateful.
So, haters, tell us what this accomplishes!

“Obama won that debate so all of you Saltines can just suck it!”
Posted by: Roxanne
Nice.

As an Independent, I will remind you about 2000 and 2004. The polls of all sorts seamed to always be in favor of the Democratic candidate. And in the end, the people of America voting in favor of Bush, a republican. That’s how I actually look at the situation. It really doesn’t matter until the last week and election day when it comes to polls, because that’s when you really start hearing the voice of Americans in the polls and interviews.

The VP debates should be interesting.
Palin is “learning” foreign policy.
Biden is forgetting everything he thought he knew.
Between what she doesn’t know and what he forgot, it should turn out to be one of the funniest nights in political history.

John McCain could not look his opponent in the eye.
nuff said.

Which one of you fags is using my name? Don’t hide! Your gramps got his ass kicked and I wasn’t the only one who saw that!

Does anybody really belive that McCain COULDNT look at obama? How utterly naive of you people. I would say that if anything McCain considers Obama not worthy. Obama is the biggest sham this side of the millenium , and you all just keep buying into this empty suit.

“Which one of you fags is using my name? Don’t hide! Your gramps got his ass kicked and I wasn’t the only one who saw that!”
Posted by: roxanne | Sep 27, 2008 11:02:07 AM
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Wow, roxanne. In two sentences you successfully demonstrated that you have anger issues, you’re violent, you hate gays, and you hate older people.
Is there anything else that you want us to know about?
Please share.

Hey everybody???? What happened to the race card the liberal media, and Obama surrogates were playing a few days ago? Now that you have a slight lead nyoure all pounding your chests like gorillas. Just like clockwork, as soon as you appear to be slipping that card will be fron and center, trying to manipulate the white vote by calling them racist if they dont belive Obama is worthy which he obviously isnt. How predictable you liberals are.

Hey everybody???? What happened to the race card the liberal media, and Obama surrogates were playing a few days ago? Now that you have a slight lead youre all pounding your chests like gorillas. Just like clockwork, as soon as you appear to be slipping that card will be front, and center, trying to manipulate the white vote, by calling them racist if they dont believe Obama is worthy, which he obviously isnt. How predictable you liberals are.

Which one of you fags is using my name? Don’t hide! Your gramps got his ass kicked and I wasn’t the only one who saw that!
Posted by: roxanne | Sep 27, 2008 11:02:07 AM
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LOL! i like you!

“McCain looked SCARRY……Who would VOTE for an old Fart like that and Palin only a heartbeat away from being President is even more Scarry than McCain looked! NO HOW….NO WAY…..NO MAC.”
Posted by: herry | Sep 27, 2008 11:06:34 AM
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@herry: Does McCain have MORE scars? Aw geez. Seriously, though, you and roxanne should get together. You both hate the older generation … oh, wait, you hate women, but at least you can recite the usual talking points like “a heartbeat away from the presidency”. You know, the one now (in)famously associated with Evan Winner.
I wouldn’t wish the presidency on anyone.
Gumby/Pokey ’08

Hey everybody???? What happened to the race card the liberal media, and Obama surrogates were playing a few days ago? Now that you have a slight lead youre all pounding your chests like gorillas. Just like clockwork, as soon as you appear to be slipping that card will be front, and center, trying to manipulate the white vote, by calling them racist if they dont believe Obama is worthy, which he obviously isnt. How predictable you liberals are.
Posted by: Badger | Sep 27, 2008 11:09:33 AM
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I would just use “Democrat” or “republican”
I’m not a liberal yet I vote Democrat.
this might help you a little, I was just thinking, understand other people and the complexity of their thought process….

What is this about looking into each others eyes? It’s about the issues, not how they talk to one another or how this one flinched or that one. Might I remind you, it took the commentator to say to both to talk to each other. But it’s not about each one’s attempted to to make eye contact, the issue’s and the American people were, so that’s where McCain kept his focus. He was not going to let the commentator or Obama change his posture or presentation, now that shows leadership in not changing and not backing down. Obama seemed to be willing to change at a moments notice to some one’s else saying. We need a leader to lead this nation, not a rehearsed debater changing at a moments notice due to some one’s liking.

Wow the Repub trolls are out in force today! No sense trying to make an intelligent comment with them around.

This is what i learned from the debate:
John McCain is a man who learned everything about politics through his long experience and no doubt about it.
and Barrack Obama is a man who learned from their mistakes…

Weird Biden, with his 5 draft deferrals and 2 brain aneurysm, talks about fatal. Biden, who voted against the first gulf war and for the Iraq war, is so lost in his maze of stupidity. He is a freak.

Right Biden, “fatal”
In the end, Obamas decision to choose you as his veepee candidate will prove to have been just that.

mccain did very well. onething i would like to add in the first 30 minutes. i was waiting for mccain to say i am against the bailout, and obama is for it. because i know that the conservative republicans wanted to have insurance to protect the taxpayers, and the democrats wanted to vote for the bailout but because the dems said they want a slice for the ACORN 20% that is the reason why the reps reacted.

Senator John McCain was one of three co-sponsors of a 2005 bill to address this budding crisis by establishing strict new regulatory controls over the government-sponsored enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
The bill squeaked through the Senate Banking Committee, but Democrats such as Chris Dodd, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in the Senate, and Barney Frank in the House, unified to kill the bill. Hassett writes, “If the bill had become law, then the world today would be different. In 2005, 2006, and 2007, a blizzard of terrible mortgage paper fluttered out of the Fannie and Freddie clouds, burying many of our oldest and most venerable financial institutions. Without [Fannie's and Freddie's] checkbooks keeping the market liquid and buying up excess supply, the market would likely have not existed.”
That is the reason John McCain cannot stomach Obama and does not have eye contact with Obama. Obama is partly the blame for the financial crisis, but Obama blames the financial mess on President Bush. Talk about a liar, Obama has them all beat without any trouble.
This is on the congressional record. Look up the record and read the truth.

I am a Saltine and I am not going to suck it. That is exactly what we fear from Obama.

Obama supporters have nothing worth while to say about Obama. All Obama supporters know are empty low life words. What else could someone expect from Obama or his suppoters?

Most of the polls claim Obama the victor! I’ve only seen two that claim McCain the winner. This debate was largely about foreign policy so why didn’t McCain knock it out of the ball park? Obama did a great job! I was troubled by how McCain NEVER looked toward Obama even after the moderator kept prompting him to. Even when they shook hands, McCain was looking away from Obama. How rude! He seemed stiff and unconfortable like he didn’t want to be on the same stage with Obama. His right eye seems bulging all of a sudden. What’s that about?
I loved Obama’s demeaner and his confidence. Obama was insistent and compelling. McCain would speak and then smile every time. That was weird.
REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU THOUGHT WON… REPUBLICANS OUGHT TO CANCEL THE BIDEN/PALIN DEBATE. THE THREE PALIN INTERVIEWS PROVE THAT SHE IS WAY OUT OF HER LEAGUE…MCCAIN MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE PICKING HER AS HIS RUNNING MATE. HER OWN PARTY IS TURNING ON HER!
Kathleen Parker said “If BS were currency Palin could bail out wall street herself”

Biden is The George W Bush of the Democratic Party. A total freakin nit wit. I wont say Obama is dumb( except for not picking Hillary and making it easy on himself) But Biden almost helps the Obama ticket in that everybody knows they cant take him serious, and thus he gets a pass. Biden definitely is Dumber. I dont hear or see too many dems coming to his defense. Proves he is insignifigant. Nobady cares what he says, and when he gaffes on a daily basis, it means nothing. If Palin gaffes, it front page. This is like the 5th time in his life that John McCain has been written off as dead. He just wont die.

What is with this self proclaimed “Gambler/Maverick?” This is a scary thing that McCain/Palin call themselves. Haven’t we learning from that idea with Wall Street? That sort of thinking is costing the American people. The United States and the American people are not a play thing toy that you can gamble with! McCain cannot gamble with the soldiers in Iraq, our homes, our taxes and the poor. He cannot gamble with unemployment or or healthcare. We cannot be looked at as a gamble, we can’t have a maverick who takes risks. We are learning that from Wall Street. I certainly DO NOT want to take a risk with this guy. I would not be talking about being a maverick at this stage of the game. We as Americans can not afford that risk, and we are not a roulette game, or a card game or a slot machine, to feel reckless with, or to gamble our lives with.

Obama will win the presidency. That’s clear now. And that he should win, that he deserves to win, will be even clearer after next this Thursday’s VP debate.
Obama needs to call McCain out on his lies more directly,and he needs to put them all — those from the debate and those from the sleezy TV ads — into a row so everyone can easily see what greasy liars McCain and his handlers really are. If we want four more useless years of getting nowhere and being lied to at every turn, McCain’s your man.
But of the two people running for office at this point, only Barak Obama can and will lead us away from the Bush economic and foreign policy messes.

TAKING OUT THE TRASH
Don’t worry about McCain winning.
The Republicans knew they couldn’t win this election, so they paired together
the two people that were the biggest thorn in their sides. McCain and Palin dragged through the mud, was their plan from the beginning.
Well done Republicans!
NOW, can you admit, you really don’t like your ticket?

Talk about controlling the media:
The Obama Missouri Political Truth Squad supported by the police and government officials is an unconstitutional action. It reminds people of Hitler and the Nazis of World War II. The truth squad is prejudging persons by saying that only Senator Obama tells the truth, doesn‘t sway from his position and definitely never changes his mind. That in itself is a lie. We all know that Senator Obama distorts the truth and that Senator Obama lies.
All person have a constitutional right to talk and print criticisms about anything, including Senator Obama. We all have a right to our opinions whether the Missouri Ethics Commission likes it or not. It is Senator Obama’s responsibility to prove that people are telling lies about his character and affiliations. People know the truth about Senator Obama and it seems that the truth squad would not know the truth if it fell on them.
The Missouri Ethics Commission is not above the BILL OF RIGHTS of the AMERICAN CONSTITUTION. Bill of Rights Amendment I:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
The above includes The Missouri Ethics Commission. The Missouri Ethics Commission does not observe THE BILL OF RIGHTS and The Missouri Ethics Commission is guilty of unconstitutional acts.
The Attorney General should start immediate action to stop the unconstitutional acts in Missouri. Any one citizen or group of citizens can file suit against The Missouri Ethics Commission and any official usurping The Bill Of Rights.
Missouri returns to slavery and Obama leads the way.
http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1

Look folks,
We can go round and round this all day. Repubs think McStain won and Dems believe Obama took the prize.
All I want to know is….
WHERE IS PALIN?
This woman has been ducking and dodging for far too long and when she does show her face, the interview is HORRIBLE !!!!!!!!!!!!
McSame really blew it when he picked THIS woman.
MCLAME……….YOU BLEW IT BOY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kathleen Parker is nothing but a beat down female who has goals and is just jealous…and who is this Joe?…Joe Bygone?

McCain comes across like “It’s my way or the highway.” No room to reason with him, no room for diplomacy, no room for new tactics, strategies,or as he likes to say, “reaching across a table.
I thought McCain was rude, condescending, angry and desperate. McCain came across in an old mans body with a juvenile mind living in the past. (30+ years ago)
Calling Obama names (naivete, naive) and snickering and telling the American people “Look at him” took me back to the 5th grade. McCain has absolutely no dignity, no shame, no class and when it comes to foreign policy, negotiation is not in McCain’s vocabulary. McCain is a very dangerous man. It’s a good thing they have a vote when it comes time to make decisions on how the United States will react when war is an option. If McCain was President of the United States we would have mushrooms and thousands of Americans would suffer and die. Retaliation would be “smack dab” in the middle of the United States as a result of REACT NOW, THINK LATER. McCain shows a lot of anger when talking about enemies and war. I wouldn’t want McCain near the BUTTON of destruction.
I was not surprised and shocked when McCain confessed that the United States did indeed Torture prisoners. Based on watching McCain, listen to McCain and McCain’s body language he shows no accountability, responsibility and stable, McCain is NOT!. That’s what John McCain is all about.
I find it troubling that a lot of Intelligent people in the United States like to refer to Obama as elite, book smart,rehearsed,too poised,too much class and looking “too Presidential.”
The only thing Obama is guilty of is out smarting, out thinking and out shining all the old stuffy, moth in the closet Republicans who can hardy climb that hill to the capitol. Where as their mentality is still stuck on Cuban cigars and Oxfords.
Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb IRAN…….
McCain, you are 2 sandwiches short of a picnic.

sure does my heart good to see all of the McGrampa dead-enders furiously and desperately hammering away at their keyboards — as if they think that can change reality! please send us all pictures of your faces on november 4th when you realize the obvious. but in the meantime, please tell us more about McSame’s “landslide victory” in the debate! i love a good fairy tale. let’s see… angry smile, too much blinking, and failure to look the opponent in the eye. yep — “landslide!” too funny.
now repeat after me…
President Obama
President Obama
President Obama
aw c’mon. you’ll be hearing the phrase a LOT over the next eight years, so ya might as well get used to it. or are you all just going to continue to whine and cry through both of his terms just like you did the last time we had a popular and successful president? oh, probably so. but while you’re still on the comedy tour, maybe you can come to Detroit and call me and the rest of the factory workers “liberal pansies.” that’d be funny too!
Republicans don’t do reality very well, do they?

I throught the debate was good and I agree! McCain was sort of conscending and seemed uneasy. I think the next debate will be even better. Obama has learned definitely gotton comfortable when debating. I think McCain did good too but I’m thinking “Palin” is on his mind. They really don’t want her to debate and that’s troubling him. I hate to say it but if they try to get rid of Palin. McCain will lose for sure.
Palin is definitely out of her league and I’m actually feeling a little bad for her…although she should have used common sense and not put herself in this position. If “First Dude” is truly sitting in on confidential meetings and being cc’d on emails – it is running the show behind close doors and this could be the reason why she is not good at critical thinking.
I have no clue what could be done at this time about Palin. Biden will destroy her and it’s not going to be in good. Sad, they rush to get an unknown “woman” she is not the one. Cute but clueless.

Dianna is a fine example of an Obama supporter. Not one grain of anything worth while to say about Obama, Obama has nothing worth while for anyone to mention.
So let’s just say anything mean and ugly about McCain and Palin.

Hello ANYBODY HOME???????? Why is anybody worried about Palin debating? I would say that her ability to get things done is far more important than her ability to debate a 35 year washington insider. YOU PEOPLE ARE FKING SHALLOW,, worried about looking presidential, etc. How ridiculous. LOOK AT RECORDS. LOOK AT ACCOMPLISHMENTS!!!!. Obama has none. BIden has been wrong half his life.

What I noticed the most between the two men was that McCain was never able to look Obama in the eye. Even during the initial greeting, McCain couldn’t make eye contact. That is a major way to assess if somebody is dishonest and sneaky. McCain lost that one.
The other thing was both men claim they will be able to bring people together to end the Government gridlock we have been in for 8 years in order to get things accomplished.
Mccain came across as rather combative, arrogant, as though he had all the answers and Obama’s views were irrelevent. That is how Mccain behaves in the senate as well. Yes he has worked with Democrats to get what he wants done, but when he is doing that he is often kicking Republicans in the teeth. Not a good way for a leader to get people working together.
Obama won that one by looking for common ground with MCCain, even though their fundamental views were very different. He showed he would be able to work with a range of varying ideas. That is what a leader needs to be able to do if his goal is to accomplish things rather than like Mccain seemed, a need to prove to everybody that he is right and hoping nobody would notice how often he was wrong.

There you go again:
Push the button, body language, mushrooms.
Did you write the LBJ ad scripts, Dianna?
Yep, we better go with the amateur, he can sit and talk i uhhhhhhhhh think!
Oh oh, just saw a flash of light! Gotta go climb under a chair or table!

Yes Marilyn we need more of this:
It was government backed Fannie and Freddie that came to be plagued with outright corruption. Clinton turned it into a feeding trough for Democrat cronies, led by Fannie Chief Franklin Raines, Clinton’s former budget director. Fannie Mae actually tampered with its own accounting books to show profits that would allow Raines to gain huge incentive bonuses under his contract. Raines amassed $90 million in personal compensation and bonuses from a government-sponsored enterprise.
Fannie and Freddie sought to protect their ongoing racket by hefty political contributions to key political angels. The top recipient of such contributions has been Senate Banking Committee chairman Chris Dodd. The second highest recipient has been Barack Obama.

Know your Palin political and emotional facts. Emphasize that Palin is against almost everything that Hillary stands for. List these things. Be sure to mention that she called Hillary “a whiner.” Then ask, “Do you really want this undeserving woman to break the glass ceiling before someone as deserving and qualified as Hillary Clinton?”
If you did your best but it didn’t work, leave the door open. Don’t lose it and attack the HRC supporter for being stupid, intransigent, short-sighted, emotional, unpatriotic, and thinking with her nether regions, even if those feelings are coursing inside you. Do not use the term “bitch,” even though McCain did.
Hillary supporters may not want to tell you that you’ve reached them. Assume it will take a few tries. And even if these voters don’t admit they’ve changed their minds, at a minimum, your attempt at taking one for the team may influence them enough to keep them from voting for McCain, or bad-mouthing Obama’s so-far wobbly candidacy.
If each die-hard Obama supporter could convince even one disgruntled HRC supporter that he or she respects Hillary Clinton, it just might help secure this election. Even if you still don’t like HRC, consider yourselves citizen-patriots, suck it up, and do your part to save our country. And fast, please.
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol hahahahahahahaha rotflmao ROTFLMAS!!!!

Liberals never fail with their ignorance, arrogance, and pompous attitudes. Keep up the good work, because you libs never disappoint with your childish double standard, racist card playing, little insight understanding pebble of a mind. Stay off the crack, and you might actually become something in life other than a cry-baby 1st grader whining about how Susie thinks you’re stupid. Well, just like the teacher said, maybe you are Billy, just work a little harder and concentrate on what’s important and you just might be able to run with the big dogs one day.

No one knocked it out of the park last night. I believe the change in format diluted the possibility of that home run sound byte.
But what the debate did accomplish, was to distinguish between the candidates very clearly. The choice is obviously “style” or “substance”.
I will choose substance over style every single time.
McCain/Palin 08

And let’s have Barney (sharp dresser and welcome to Mpls. airport men’s room) Frank demand some more great loan plans for the poor so we can get more of this great loan paper schemes. Vote like a Teamster, vote for Obummer.

David,
Liberals and real conservatives have minds. Neocons/McCainiacs make decisions based upon unconscious fears. Read and weep:
http://tinyurl.com/fearful-neocons

No, liberals do not have minds, just mindset!

I think McCain did great and that Obama well, didn’t, lol.
I am not surprised that Biden thinks McCain did poorly. The guy isn’t living in reality, never has been. I am going to enjoy seeing Palin mop the debate room floor with him. I just wonder why Biden thinking his guy did great is a news story. Were we expecting Biden to concede that McCain won? Even if he was observant enough to see that, he’d never have the smarts to admit it.

I was very excited about the announcement of Palin and the speech was good at the convention but I too was one of those “women” undecided. At this time… I’m just upset because the camp didn’t do their due diligence on selecting her. I still feel bad for her but again..her ambitious got the best of her…..I doubt if we will see her debate since the Charade from the McCain campe about delaying last night debate was for the VP debate.
The McCain Camp is well aware of her not been ready and believe me they are working on something to delay the debate. It will be no way she can stand against Biden without being prepared. I don’t like him but he is good at debating.

Why does anyone think that acknowledging an opponent is right shows weakness? It shows that you are open to listening to opposing opinions. That is what a president does. He listens to all sides then makes a decision. This is something John McCain is not capable of. He will listen to his yes-men, then take action without knowing all the facts. That is an extremely scary way to run a country. After all, just after the 9/11 attacks, McCain was already shouting about invading Iraq and they weren’t even the ones who attacked us. You can’t have a president that shoots first and asks later. We have that now and look how far America has fallen. It’s time to bring back listening and thinking to Washington and you will only get that with Barack Obama.

It looks like all the long posts here are attempting to explain what Obama meant in this debate. Save it. No time for mind readers or arm chair politicians.
I have no clue what debate most were watching here and at the age of 58 I’m done trying to figure it out. MSM told us what they considered the winner of the first of previous debates and as usual they have been 100% wrong as follows:
Goldwater beat Johnson = Johnson POTUS
Humphrey beat Nixon = Nixon POTUS
McGovern beat Nixon = Nixon POTUS
Ford beat Carter = Carter POTUS
Dukakis beat Bush = Bush POTUS
Bush beat Clinton = Clinton POTUS
Dole beat Clinton = Clinton POTUS
Gore beat Bush = Bush POTUS
Kerry beat Bush = Bush POTUS
And now as I’m sure you all have read, seen and blogged, the MSM now proudly presents their opine yet again with: Obama beats McCain? Oky Doky.
I’m taking a wild guess here but I can’t see why MSM would try and ruin their stellar track record.
On experience which is the only thing I deem important. No “Beta Testing” with America at this time because if the product doesn’t work, no time or money for redevelopment.
Thus far as a Democrat, I’m going with McCain but we have two more debates of which I can derive my expectations once again from MSM, NOT!

My two-cents on the debate. McCain was chanting his slogans for being a Sherrif, his capture in Vietnam, and he did not win Ms. Congeniality contest. So, what? I think McCain is ready to retire, why is he working past his retirement age, anyway? Maybe that is the sign, he can raise the retirement age of our social security, remember, if McCain can do it, so can anyone else who supports him. Hucklebee or Romley should have been norminated by the GOP, looks like its downhill for the republican party from now on. Pick a better representative next election, maybe we the people would consider again.

Once we get rid of Racism in this country,…..I guess we can teach some of the young kids about Sexism and Ageism. Both of which are sadly still practiced by some of the imbecils on this message board.

Biden was very mad last night with Chris Wallace. Biden was just steamed because his running mate was shown to know little about foreign affairs. Iran, McCain, let Obama have it. It was good to hear someone say to Obama that he was not prepared to be commander of the nation. If Obama cannot take this, then how will he able to handle America’s enemies. You cannot have it both ways, even with 300 advisors and a cell phone. Even the Bush blame didn’t work.

Actually hey, Obummer did pretty well without a tele-prompter. May be ready for Jeopardy next!

Is there anyone out there that thinks that McCain / Palin may come up with an excuse to cancel the Palin – Biden debates? I do. The Palin interview by Couric showed how unprepared, unintelligent and pathetic Sarah is.
How did she even become governor, was there actually another candidate?
She wouldn’t even be chosen to go on Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader!
Sad, sad,sad, worse interview answers ever! Sarah couldn’t even make sense for a sentence, a total air head!

sad sad sad–good reasoning! Typical!

At least McCain did not stumble on the name on his bracelet. Did you have an audio glitch at that point?

I, too, am a long time Independent. I was hoping to find a meaningful discussion here, but to no avail. It’s clear that Republican campaign workers are trolling all the ABC blogs clogging all the discussions with the current Republican talking points. It’s easy to spot who these posters are and what their mission is. It’s unfortunate that voters looking to have a spirited, informed debate cannot count on these blogs to do this. It’s also obvious that the same people are posting under different names trying to make it seem as if many people share their views, you can see it in the wording of their blogs. I guess it’s only to be expected that such a forum would be abused, but it’s sad that what could be a useful, informative arena is poisoned by those looking to unfairly take control of the conversation. I know this makes me sound naive, but I have had it with these blogs as they are a waste of time for real voters.

I would send George Onyango a dollar except he would not think the guy on the bill looked like him!

McCain/Palin = Corporations First… When did you serve your country? What was the name of your organization? Where did it serve?
Talk about spin, that is all that Obama is. Obama is so much spin, he is spinning out of control.

Lets see here, bomb Iran and it’s rogue regime that already admitted to wanting to kill us, before they get nuclear weapons. Or bomb Pakistan to take out one man with a country who has a nuclear bomb already and doesn’t want us in it’s country but is willing to cooperate with us, hhmmm? Now who has commonsense on that issue you liberal brays. McCain destroyed Obama. You only say Obama won because the economy is in the tank (thanks to the democrats)and he’s using that and that only as his prop. Sounds like to me McCain can multitask alot better than Obama any day.

Screw this oppressive country!! White Redneck dummies..McCain is a Bumbling idiot and Palin is just as dumb!
What many non-white countries have seen over the past eight years is that white people are Phucking idiots! And that is why non have respect for this country..and neither do I!! PHUCK AMERIKKKA!!!!

This election is over. There is a new video out of one democrat after another insulting the Fannie Mae regulator in a hearing.
http://www.gatewaypundit.blogspot.com
(scroll down)
And while you’re there, see the video comparison of what Obama said not long ago and what he said last night about missile defense and his views.
He’s caught lying BIG TIME. It’s on VIDEO. Lol.
Love it! President McCain here we come!!!

C’mon, republiTARDS, let’s fight.
I got my liberal talking points ready for you.
Palin’s daughter is fair game even though Michelle “for the first time in my adult life I’m proud of my country” Obama isn’t.
McSame is a big loser for suspending his campaign. So what if he meant to help broker a deal that would possibly keep this country from going into a depression and Obama screwed up his prepared speech at the meeting.
How dare McBush not show up on a talk show like David Letterman. Don’t you know that getting on shows like Oprah, The View, Letterman, Leno, and other venues is the best way to look like a celebrity.
Posted by: GIGI | Sep 27, 2008 11:25:16 AM
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LOL
another freak obsessed with me.
what a loser! – come to think of it, if I were you, I’d be pretty upset too!

In the words of Obama, The Man, The Myth, the Legend
“I ask my staff never to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it, because I will lose it. And my desk in my office doesn’t look good. I’ve got to have somebody around me who is keeping track of that stuff,” said Obama.
Democratic debate January 2008
Sound like a man who can multi-task?
Obama=JOKE

jdilla – Kick rocks then sucker. Move to sudan, or lybia. We dont want your stench spewing hate around here. C-Ya,,, wouldnt want to B-Ya

Diane – Why do you think McCain supporters are going nuts, just because of what you think you see and understand. It’s you that’s going nuts thinking you’re smart when your ignorance shines through.

Obummer request:
Where can I get a pretty bracelet with an easy to remember name, like Mohammad or Ed?

MikeW – how about if McCain retires? His choice of Palin has become the laughingstock of not only the country but the rest of the world and McCain’s own party is distraught and cringing at the thought of her destroying McCain’s chances in November. Talk about judgment. Or lack thereof. Picking Palin to be the person who will take over as president of the U.S. if something happens to him while in office was the worst possible decision he could have made. It was the most important decision as a candidate for president and he blew it. By the way, your racial prejudices are showing. Rappers? You should be ashamed of yourself for such a disgusting remark. So, MikeW – go back to your cave. We don’t need you here.

Biden is fast becoming a complete liability if he isnt already. Barack was right about the war? But wrong about the surge, wrong about Rezko, wrong about Wright, wrong about Iran, wrong about Pakistan. As I recall alot of people were opposed to the war, but that doesnt make 99% eligible to be our president. ACTUALLY, Obama was told by his handlers, and financiers to oppose the war even as he was leary about doing so in 2003. So his taking credit for his opposition is chicago style politics at best.
Posted by: Badger | Sep 27, 2008 9:48:05 AM
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Has McCain ever admitted it was wrong to invade Iraq and he was wrong to vote to invade?
BTW Which of you McCain supporters will admit they voted for G.W. Bush and it was wrong to invade Iraq?

For Obama supporters only:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1120782
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74635
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74783

jdilla – You are an example of true racism, and that anger comes from you liberal brays, not the real democrats. You nuts should actually have your own party with limitations of power because of your uncontrollable anger and hatred.

Badger – LOL, right on bro!

Hillary and Palin are both examples of how women will never be respected leaders of our country. Women trying to be President of the greatest country in the World is just a joke! The weaker sex leading our country would be laughed at by 1/2 of the world today. I hope Hillary and Palin supporters understand this! haha!

Gee English is worse in England than here!

I was surprised how the debate’s undertone was stability/experience vs. change/vision. It was a bit like watching my father and brother go at it. How does someone choose between his Dad (who has simply lived life longer and tends to be wiser) or his brother (who is his peer and wants an America for his generation too!)? I kind of wished “Mom” (aka Hillary) jumped in during the debate and declared that the world needs both stability and change!!!

Badger – low IQ’s reveal themselves on this site. Go back to school and learn to read so you can contribute something meaningful. When the republican party and conservative pundits come out and say Palin is inadequate and should withdraw, only idiots like you will persist in their opinion that she’s better than the top of the democratic ticket. Maybe you think she’s qualified but that only speaks to the fact that you have no brains. No brains, Badger, no brains.

McCain/Palin = Corporations First… When did you serve your country? What was the name of your organization? Where did it serve?
Talk about spin, that is all that Obama is. Obama is so much spin, he is spinning out of control.
Posted by: Judge | Sep 27, 2008 12:34:28 PM
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Judge are you saying a person’s comments are valid only if they served their country? Is that your litmus test?
If so, I don’t think you want to go there seeing how so called patriotic republicans have thrashed the constitution, raped our treasury and are probably plotting to steal yet another election.

Brenda: “But we here in Pennsylvania call it like we see it, it was a complete landslide victory for John McCain.”
Really? Well, let’s see what the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette poll says then:
Ouch. 57% say they’re more likely to support Obama compared to 24% who say they’re more likely to support McCain.

Is this what Obama considers to be “bringing people together” ?
TRUE Quote – (Dreams of My Father) – I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.
TRUE Quote – (Dreams of My Father) – I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race. [Townhall, “The Truth About Obama’s Disdain for White People”
TRUE Quote - (Dreams of My Father) – There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white. [Is Race the Issue? – forum site]
TRUE Quote – (Dreams of My Father) – It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.
TRUE Quote – (Dreams of My Father) – I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.
Partially True Quote – (Audacity of Hope) – (page 261) -
Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese interments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the

Hillary spent all those years as a lawyer and Senator YET BARACK STILL POUNDED HER INTO SUBMISSION!!!!! MAN POWER! – BARACK POWER!….Step aside weak White Women!!

McCain/Palin = Corporations First…
You attack a man of honor and tell us it is only his spin. He respects all gallant service men. I had my training at Ft. Benning GA., Harmony Church. I served honorable and so did John McCain. John McCain’s feelings are real and not just spin. So are my feelings real about each and every military man. Get it!

Obama signed up hundreds of illegals to vote in Chicago as a ‘community organizer’ for ACORN. He gots my vote!!!

It’s hard to believe how well Obama learned form his mentor Saul Alinksy. Just a decade ago, no one would’ve believed that an Alinsky disciple could become President of the USA!!!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!

MCCAIN WAS AFRAID TO LOOK OBAMA IN THE EYE… I DON’T TRUST A MAN WHO CAN’T LOOK ME IN THE EYE WHEN HE SPEAKS… AND I DON’T WANT A PRESIDENT WHO’S AFRAID TO LOOK “ANYONE” IN THE EYE WHEN THEIR SERIOUS ABOUT SOMETHING !!!

Is this what Obama considers to be “bringing people together”?
Posted by: Badger | Sep 27, 2008 1:02:08 PM
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Republicans are notorious chronological liars. Bush campaigned saying he was a uniter not a divider. Boldly stating he would restore honor and integrity to the White House. McCain’s campaign shows he will do anything to get to the White House and would there he would do more of the same and anything to hold and control power. Sure that’s just what we need another rash, act now don’t think later fake cowboy.

All our past Presidents have been 2 term Governors….let’s hear from Gov. Palin, she can probably talk to the people better than Senators, certainly better than the stammering, rambling, nuanced Obama.

Did Biden carry any hankies with him….he’s always crying…MAN UP BIDEN, GOV. PALIN SEEMS TO HAVE A BETTER TEMPERMENT FOR THIS JOB!

Obama looks and acts gay! I wasn’t sure what it was about him, but after last night I realize he acts like a homosexual….not that there is anything wrong with that…a persons sexual preference is his or her own business… it just doesn’t help him look presidential! He should quit smoking and start working out…maybe get some male hormones or something!

Biden suffers a fatal “foot in mouth” everytime he speaks. What a lack-luster 35-year career in Washington —tsk, tsk, and absolutely nothing to his credit. He should have been a community organizer instead.

He cant go to dc DEB he cant ask for more money right now it would look bad

McCain is a true military fighter. His answer to EVERYTHING is – “BOMB IT!” (Remember his horrible “Bomb! Bomb! Bomb Iran!” – how BARBARIC!) As if human beings do not have the gift to think or reason, McCain reacts to every situation (and is PROUD of it) with the WAR MACHINE MENTALITY – BURN, CRASH, AND SLASH. KILL IT AND WIN! WIN! WIN! This does not apply ONLY to other countries, but to programs for the less fortunate in our own country. “BOMB the middle class and the poor with taxes, then reduce taxes for the wealthy. Hopefully, our country is made up of more intelligent and wiser voters than McCain. McCain, and anyone who thinks like he does, should be ashamed of the “BOMB as the only solution” mentality. Let us join Obama at a higher level of humanity – let us think, communicate, and respect others, rather than killing, destroying, and being proud of it. Patriotism is NOT about KILLING, rather about SAVING people and their countries (ours and theirs). It is no wonder many countries consider the U.S. leaders to be the real terrorists. Our leaders, BUSH-CHENEY, deceived the citizens of this GREAT NATION. They LIED! The Iraq War was not about humanity. It was and is about OIL, our need for it, our greed for it. We have destroyed Iraq to take that country’s oil, and in the process have sacrificed the lives of our precious young people, taken the lives of THOUSANDS of citizens (killing MANY MORE than Hussein did, and his were wrong, but look at the U.S. leaders), and destroying the structures of their country. Let us support Barak Obama’s ability to think and to reason, and to respect other countries rights to autonomy. Let us support Barak Obama’s desire to take care of the MANY ILLS, economic and otherwise, within OUR OWN COUNTRY. Let us “remove the LOG from our own eye before worrying about the splinter” in the OTHER country’s. WE ARE AN INTELLIGENT COUNTRY, RIGHT? I CERTAINLY BELIEVE WE CAN BE. VOTE OBAMA-BIDEN, Prove you can think!

OBAMA HAD A CLEVER LINE, HE HAD A BRACELET, TOO.
THE ONLY THING, HE ALMOST FORGOT IT AT HOME AND COULDNT REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE PERSON WHO GAVE IT TO HIM..IDIOT -OVERCRAMMED LMAO!
HA HA HA !!!
I KNOW THE MEDIA WILL SPIN FOR OBAMA BUT MOST PUNDITS THINK MCCAIN WON, INCLUDING MANY AT MSNBC, WHICH IS A BIG SURPRISE…THE AOL TEAM, TOO

to “Independent”
Well said. And Obama’s cute purplish lips make it look like he has lipstick on.
What a pansy.

Osama Bin Laden JUST ENDORSED Obama – Biden!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>CBS news poll among undecided voters… who won the debate
40% Obama
22% McCain
38% Draw
Left wing media..Find a better independent source.

As I watched the Messiah i wondered How the heck did he get so far.
I know its the Howard Dean again.
Yeeeeeaaaaaooooooww!
Dem party has get their act together and clean some. It gave us some great man/ woman too.
McCain/ Palin 08

PALIN SHOOTS A MOOSE THEN DISPLAYS THE REMAINS IN HER COUCH. McCAIN PLEASE BE CARFUL OF PALIN ONE DAY SHE WILL MISTAKE YOU FOR A MOOSE. I DONT TRUST HER WHEN SHE IS ALONE WITH YOU GET RID OF HER. MY NAME NOW IS JOYCE COME SEE ME I LOVE YOU
JOYCE FROM ORLANDO

I thought Obama look mad most of the time. I thought Mccain looked like Mccain Always looks.Want i would like to know About Obama is when did he file papers to go back to his birth name? He was adopted by mr Soetoro when he was a child and his name changed to Barry Soetoro. When did he change his name back to Obama? Where are the papers showing this or did he just start using the Name Obama without filing the papers. When he got adopted his name legally changed.A lot of his college friends called him Barry.If he didn’t legally change his name then he has lied on many papers.Obama’s camp should really clear some of these questions up before they get slapped in the face if he win’s. He is still being sued right now because of all this why isn’t the media covering any of this it is a big deal.I will feel sorry for all you Obama lovers if he does win and all this does come out that he lied about this stuff and then he pull the wool over you all. If i was you i would demand for them to answer this question for your sake so you would know for a fact the person you are voting for is who he says he is.If you are that sure of him demand it.If he won’t show prof of it then you will know.If your right there should be nothing to hide and you can throw this back in the rep face.

Obama looked an inexperienced and bumbling school kid! No how, no way, is this guy ready to run our country. He is a flat our danger to all of America. If he is elected, God help us all…

Barack Obama is a product of Corporate America, MoveOn.Org, and Old Money Socialist Europeans.
Today’s disillusioned College students have NO IDEA.

>>>Why can’t you republicans admit your party has ruined America?
Every time I visit this site, you’re here with the same messages which are becoming so boring. To blame the left wingers for this corruption will be written in history as correct. Now run along …

>>>>Barack Obama is a product of Corporate America, MoveOn.Org, and Old Money Socialist Europeans.
Today’s disillusioned College students have NO IDEA.
Great comments.

I went into the debates with an open mind but John McCain was to much like Bush for me to feel comfortable voting for him. His posture and attitude was to smug and very annoying! Those that support John will feel he was the best and those that support Obama will feel he did the best. A lot of voters have already decided.

Do you really believe democrats are responsible for the multiple screw ups done to this country when in fact it was republicans? Then you go on to say “bush has his flaws but he tried to get people to make changes”. That’s like saying a toad is quite except for a few warts. Why can’t you republicans admit your party has ruined America?
Posted by dipstick….
Yes we do! The truth hurts pretty bad doesn’t it?? Pelosi, Reid, and Dodd, Frank…haven’t done squat since taking over…things have become worse because of these creeps!!

And speaking of Biden, I’d feel a helluva lot better if HE had to take over the Presidency than if, GOD FORBID, Sarah Palin suddenly were put in that position. For all you folks touting her virtues: Have you seen the anti-witchcraft blessing? Have you seen the Katie Couric interview? Have you seen her dodging subpoenas? Have you seen her financial records? Oops, NO on has seen those financial records!

Actually, Obama was raised in mostly multi-cultural surroundings his whole life. Hawaii, and Indonesia
The problem was that he was mentored by people in Hawaii, like Frank Marshall Davis who was a member of The Communist Party of the USA, and a black labor activist. Obama also looked up to people like Malcom X, and to this day some of Obamas stump lines echo Malcom X.
Obama basically bit the hand that fed him all of his life, while choosing to entrench himself in black nationalism, black liberation theology, and anti-american ideology.
Now he wants to talk about bringing people together? He barely left that church 3 months ago after 20 years of sitting in the pews? The mainstream media MSNBC CNN ABC CBS will not call him on it, because they are fnanced by socialist minded sugardaddies.

If you do your home work it was carter who started this mess and Clinton didn’t help with his bill either.This mess has been going down for years. Not just the Bush’s years but for years before that. It just happen to fall totally apart during Bush’s time.To Blame just Bush on this is just plain wrong blame them all dem’s and rep.they are both at fault and untell you say that you are all ignoring the facts.There is greed on both sides the dem’s i would say have the most greed but the rep have a lot too.IS Mccain or Obama president? no so stop saying you know mccain will make us in more dept when Obama wants to spend spend spend.What is that going to do? put us in more dept.He wants to already give 5 billion to work on the great lakes. I think the great lake can wait. there is more important things ahead of the great lakes. Its this stuff you need to be looking at not who looks better when they talk.And for Biden you should be ashamed of his remarks about President R. if he doesn’t even know when a president was in office and that there was no tv back then then maybe he should keep his mouth shut.

When all is said and done in 38 day’s, let us support our new President of the United States.
B-A-R-A-C-K O-B-A-M-A
I’m wondering how much clout McCain will have.
Um, have you looked at the polls today?

Or maybe McCain can’t stomach Obama because major veteran organizations rates Obama higher than McCain in helping veterans? Must be kinda hard for a old POW to stomach?
Posted by nutcase
Your ignorance is still showing moron…

In the end, a vote for Obama is a vote for Jeremiah Wright. There aren’t enough white wannabees for him to win. Though, there seem to be a number of them commenting here.

Posted by: Judge | Sep 27, 2008 11:43:55 AM
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Speaking of Attorney General, how do you feel about bush firing numereous U.S. Attorneys because they wouldn’t allow themselves to be used to go after people for political reasons as directed by bush, cheney and rove?

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Dianna
what makes you think the polls are really relevant? They are a snapshot in time. As a previous poster pointed out. All of the democratic losers in recent history were leading in the polls, and or were considered debate winners.
Enough said.

Where was Sarah Palin after the debate. Biden was around pushing his candidate and getting free press. They shielded her away even from this?

Interesting comment from Biden. As an undecided voter, I was watching to decide which candidate I really wanted last night. (I was a Hillary supporter.) What struck me from the debate was the knowledge that McCain had over Obama. It struck me hard. After McCain would answer, Obama would answer, “I agree with McCain.” It struck me that Obama truly did not have the knowledge to be president yet. I believe my mind has been made up from the debate. I am voting for McCain. I have been waffling back and forth constantly so it was a surprise to me that the debate helped me make my decision.
Posted by: Shell | Sep 27, 2008 1:40:03 PM
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Beware of post like the one above. Republicans are posting as former Hillary supporters but are now for McCain. They want you to believe it even though, Hillary and McCain’s policies are totally different. True democrats will support Obama only fakes will support more bush in the person of McCain.

In the end, a vote for McCain is a vote for Sarah Palin’s Rev. Witch Doctor. There aren’t enough right wing wannabees for them to win. Though, there seem to be a number of them commenting here.

Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | Sep 27, 2008 2:08:18 PM I am sorry where do you work??????

Because McCain didn’t deliver any kind of KO against Obama and this debate favored McCain in foreign policy, McCain’s failure to clearly win the debate may well make Biden’s words prophetic. Obama was able to sway independent voters in far greater numbers than McCain. If Obama continues the trend, and this was the debate that least favored him (foreign policy/national security, in taking the independents, Obama truly has won the debate and very likely the presidency.

Well, McCain had better remember the name on his bracelet. The bracelet has been a campaign prop for long enough.

Can we say KEATING 5 all over again for McCain. The only lessons McCain learned from the Keating 5 scandal were how to better cover his tracks.
Rick Davis McCain’s top campaign advisor was paid 2 million by Freddie Mac and Frannie Mae as lobbyist to prevent De-regulation. McCain’s is in a tailspin and is burning out of control…just like all of his naval flights.
Fiorina Scarce as McCain Adviser After Gaffe, CEO-Pay Spotlight
Carly Fiorina. the former Hewlett-Packard Co. chief executive officer was fired asked to leave with golden parachute, $42 million, including stocks, options and pension.
McCain was challenged about Fiorina’s payout from a company that laid off 20,000 employees. “She is an example of exactly the kind of person he say’s is at the root of the problem,”
OBAMA/BIDEN 08

O thank you Joe Biden for intending not to do what John McCain did. It was transparently ugly and while it might have been gratifying to someone who detests Obama I’m not sure anyone else would be influenced by it. I was just sitting there hoping that Biden would not do that with Palin. Palin will surely do the McCain thing. She will smugly and shrilly try to picture Biden as one of the bad old boys, when Biden took the train to work and home each day, unlike McCain who owns a home in DC (at least one anyway) and so with three hours on the train each day I don’t guess Biden had time for that crony stuff. Anyhow, she will be like McCain. I just think they appeal to only people who see themselves in that mirror.

Say whatever you want about Palin, but you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear!
If she can’t hack a short, taped interview with Katie Couric, then what is she going to do in a lengthy, live debate with Joe Biden – wet herself?
She had better go back to Alaska where she can shoot hapless wolves from airplanes, because they are going to be the only ones she can vanquish.

Posted by: Tolvanera | Sep 27, 2008 2:28:21 PM Your point is moot al you have to do is look at the voting record to see who is more flexible BTW 97% of the time barack voted for democratic backe bills

In the end, a vote for Obama is a vote for Obama’s Rev. Wright. There aren’t enough left wing wannabees for them to win. Though, there seem to be a number of them commenting here.

SILLY PEOPLE Its not how well you debate, its what have you achieved? What is your record of accomplishment? If youre talkin Sarah Palin , she has actually achieved things for the good of the people who voted her as Mayor twice, and Governor.
Why do we care if Palin can beat Biden who is a 26 year washington insider in a debate.
Joe Biden can probably out debate Palin , but he has been wrong half his life.

If you truly are an undecided voter and haven’t seen Bill Moyer’s interview of Andrew Bacevich, you owe it to yourself and to your family to see this interview, and perhaps read Bacevich’s book, before you vote….
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09262008/watch.html

I am a democrat voting for McCain. Obama doesn’t persuade me in his first debate. He is not presidential material and does not get my support.

The black devil will not be president!
His magic only works on the ignorant and welfare recipients! Working people want to keep more of their paycheck and Osama already has voted to let the tax cuts expire!

dislike corporate welfare. Especially when it comes from republicans who continues to preach personal responsibility. They always say people need to take responsibility for their actions. Why in the hell aren’t they preahing corporate responsibility? Such hypocrites, now that is who I truly despise.
posted by ignorant liberal
You seem to have some problem with corporations. Figure it out nimrod..if there are no corporations, there are no jobs. No jobs mean no government, no government means no country! You will be without your welfare check!

dislike corporate welfare. Especially when it comes from republicans who continues to preach personal responsibility. They always say people need to take responsibility for their actions. Why in the hell aren’t they preahing corporate responsibility? Such hypocrites, now that is who I truly despise.
posted by ignorant liberal
You seem to have some problem with corporations. Figure it out nimrod..if there are no corporations, there are no jobs. No jobs mean no government, no government means no country! You will be without your welfare check!
Posted by: Obama/Biden=welfare first | Sep 27, 2008 2:46:11 PM
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Are corporations the problem or the politicians that allow their misbehavior? Let’s see how a simpleton like you answers.

yep, Obama came across as the angry black devil. Scary as hell I agree.
Posted by: mary | Sep 27, 2008 2:51:07 PM
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And you two are coming across as two stupid, simple minded racist.

Badger,
In my opinion Joe Biden is right most of the time. I have read about him and met him and heard him speak several times and watched him interact with people, and read what other people in other countries have to say about him coming over there to see things for himself.
Your opinion that he was wrong half the time is not an absolute truth – just your opinion, based on whatever – probably from listening to some conservative gasbag like Rush Limbaugh.

The democrats are the ones who lowered the standards for getting motgages and loans for people who could not afford them,By doing this it caused the demand of housing to increase with a low supply housing cost skyrocketed and people kept on buying what they could not afford but because the standards were lowered they said they could and were believed

yeah Mary I agree. At least Obama didn’t stutter as much like he normally does like Porky Pig on cocaine,
but he was just spouting off his rehearsed lines, so he wouldn’t stutter.
That’s why he didn’t want to postpone the debate.
yeah he did look scary with that makeup and demeanor.
He is only 47 now, can you imagine what him and his angry gorilla wife will look like when he is McCains age?
no thanks!
Posted by: . | Sep 27, 2008 2:55:31 PM
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So why don’t you and Mary post pictures of yourselves? Please take off your pointy hoods and bed sheets so that we see just how stupid you two look.

They kept Palin away from being a whore like Biden.

What Debate was Dopey Joe Biden
watching last night? Lincoln/Douglass?
McCain Cleaned Obama’s clock last
night and everyone but die-hard
Democrats(and Neil Cavuto on Fox)
knows it!
The man of “change” agreed with McCain
seven or eight times!
How is that “change”!
McCain had Obama off-balance all night!
So much so that Obama started to become
rude interrupting McCain before he
finished his answers!
That isn’t presidential and shows a
lack of class!
Obama was shown to be the naive empty
suit that he is!
Palin will kick Dopey Joe Biden’s
butt in the VP debate and Obama and
Biden can go home and work on their
concession speeches!

I agree thats excatly what it is i am not for the bailout.But it was the democrats that have lead to this mess
Posted by: reddog0216 | Sep 27, 2008 2:53:09 PM
—————————————-How so?
Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | Sep 27, 2008 2:54:35 PM
The democrats are the ones who lowered the standards for getting motgages and loans for people who could not afford them,By doing this it caused the demand of housing to increase with a low supply housing cost skyrocketed and people kept on buying what they could not afford but because the standards were lowered they said they could and were believed

man he sure did look dark and sinister last night, and those gay eyebrows.
Geez it was bad enough before with his purple lips. It also looked like he had lipstick on last night.
Christ, you can put lipstick on an idiot, but it’s still an idiot.

McCain/Palin = Corporations First,
you really suck at being a paid Obama blogger.
you should get out of your mom’s basement and try to apply for a job at McDonalds.

The democrats are the ones who lowered the standards for getting motgages and loans for people who could not afford them,By doing this it caused the demand of housing to increase with a low supply housing cost skyrocketed and people kept on buying what they could not afford but because the standards were lowered they said they could and were believed
Posted by: reddog0216 | Sep 27, 2008 2:57:56 PM
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Uhh no, it was the republicans that caused this financial meltdown. The republicans have never seen a regulation that they liked. They are the party of deregulation and non enforcement of policies and laws that they feel impedes the “free market”. They always claim the free market is self correcting. So why don’t they let it correct itself now? The answer is, it’s easier to steal money from inside than robbing with weapon. Republicans are poised to ripoff America for 700 billion large under a scenario they created. And people want voters to continue to vote for republicans? Hell no, no way not on any day.

This is what I want from our next President:
1. Someone who gives me free money from the government and rich people.
2. Someone who isn’t old.
3. Someone who can get the Germans, the French and the Russians to like us again.
4. Someone who looks spiffy on TV.
5. Someone who doesn’t have all that experience stuff corrupting his progressive, socialist ideoologies.
6. Someone who can know all about the world without actually going anywhere.
7. Someone who can stay in touch via cell phone with what’s going on in Washington.
8. Someone who can impress the members of the media and the entertainment industry.
9. Someone who isn’t like those old white dudes on our money like Lincoln and Washington.
10. Someone who can’t be bothered with the bureaucratic, run of the mill, day to day stuff in Washington, but rather can inspire the American people through awesome speeches.
11. Someone who believes that certain parts of the Bill of Rights are open to negotiation-that shows flexibility in the 21st Century…can’t keep living in the past, folks.
12. Someone who sees that women who can’t be bothered with having babies should have that God-given right to be comfortable and live their lives unhindered by such inconveniences.
13. Someone who will get us out of Iraq ASAP! We didn’t need to be there in the first place and, besides, we have enough democracies in the world.
14. Someone who will leave a racist, anti-American church, no matter how long it takes!
15. Someone who has the smarts to keep his mouth shut about what he really thinks.
16. Someone who wasn’t stupid enough to join the military and be a party to American Imperialism and genocide.
17. Someone who can type on a keyboard with his own hands-in other words, someone who is healthy and not decrepit.
18. Someone who knows the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite because he is himself one or the other.
19. Someone who can ‘reach across the aisle’ and work with the Weather Underground and the Nation of Islam-because, after all, it’s for the good of poor people.
20. Someone who will devote all his time and energy tirelessly to running an organized campaign despite distractions from the world outside.
21. Someone who will kill Bin Laden, even if he is in Pakistan, but yet have the Humanity to make sure that the prisoners at Gitmo have their Constitutional Rights protected.
There’s only ONE man who fits all that and he has my vote for sure.
OBAMA ’08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donna Hughes:
Don’t worry about Sarah Palin she will
take Dopey Joe Biden to the cleaners
in the debate!
You know Biden he’s the U.S. Senator
who thinks that Franklin Roosevelt
went on TV during the stock market crash
of 1929 and comforted the nation.
Unfortunately for Dopey Joe, Herbert
Hoover was the president and there was
no TV at the time! Duh!
Dopey Joe thinks Sarah Palin is a
Lieutenant Governor of Alaska! Duh!
Dopey Joe doesn’t know the difference
between a brigade and a battalion! Duh!
You Dems better hope the VP debate
is canceled! LOL!

In 1995, as a result of interest from President Bill Clinton’s administration, the implementing regulations for the CRA were strengthened by focusing the financial regulators’ attention on institutions’ performance in helping to meet community credit needs.
These revisions[5] with an effective starting date of January 31, 1995 were credited with substantially increasing the number and aggregate amount of loans to small businesses and to low- and moderate-income borrowers for home loans. These changes were very controversial and as a result, the regulators agreed to revisit the rule after it had been fully implemented for seven years. Thus in 2002, the regulators opened up the regulation for review and potential revision.[citation needed]
Part of the increase in home loans was due to increased efficiency and the genesis of lenders, like Countrywide, that do not mitigate loan risk with savings deposits as do traditional banks using the new subprime authorization. This is known as the secondary market for mortgage loans. The revisions allowed the securitization of CRA loans containing subprime mortgages. The first public securitization of CRA loans started in 1997 by Bear Stearns. [6] The number of CRA mortgage loans increased by 39 percent between 1993 and 1998, while other loans increased by only 17 percent. [7] [8]
Other rule changes gave Fannie and Freddie extraordinary leverage, allowing them to hold just 2.5% of capital to back their investments, vs. 10% for banks. By 2007, Fannie and Freddie owned or guaranteed nearly half of the $12 trillion U.S. mortgage market.

Interesting to hear McCain plagiarise what is, in Britain, a very famous speech from Winston Churchill in last night’s debates. In 1942 Churchill spoke of the turning of the tide in World War II after the Battle of El Alamein: “This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.” The speech was given on 10 November 1942 at the Lord Mayor of London’s banquet at the Mansion House.
see
http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/EndoBegn.html
and
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=222

like hugo said about bush—–YOU COULD SMELL THE SULPHER WHEN MCCAIN CAME OUT—–i thought perhaps it was his depends needing change.–wow

[edit] George W. Bush Administration Proposed Changes of 2003
In 2003, the Bush Administration recommended what the NY Times called “the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.” [10] This change was to move governmental supervision of two of the primary agents guaranteeing subprime loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under a new agency created within the Department of the Treasury. However, it did not alter the implicit guarantee that Washington will bail the companies out if they run into financial difficulty; that perception enabled them to issue debt at significantly lower rates than their competitors. The changes were generally opposed along Party lines and eventually failed to happen. Representative Barney Frank (D-MA) claimed of the thrifts “These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” Representative Mel Watt (D-NC) added “I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing.”[11]

mattg
palin is a cannible—she shot bullwinkle—AND ATE HIM—OH THE HORROR

So your point is? read this
Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | Sep 27, 2008 3:31:12 PM
edit] George W. Bush Administration Proposed Changes of 2003
In 2003, the Bush Administration recommended what the NY Times called “the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.” [10] This change was to move governmental supervision of two of the primary agents guaranteeing subprime loans, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under a new agency created within the Department of the Treasury. However, it did not alter the implicit guarantee that Washington will bail the companies out if they run into financial difficulty; that perception enabled them to issue debt at significantly lower rates than their competitors. The changes were generally opposed along Party lines and eventually failed to happen. Representative Barney Frank (D-MA) claimed of the thrifts “These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” Representative Mel Watt (D-NC) added “I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing.”[11]

: McCain/Palin = Corporations First
This is what I mean by ducking it why cant you explain or see this was a huge problem in what happen last week. Iknow you watch CNN MSNBC talk about all the bad debt they are proposing to buy with this 700 billion dollars

Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | Sep 27, 2008
So now my question is are they really resonsible for the deregulation of the banking industry or will you just keep saying they are??

Reaganfan,
You remind me of every other conservative gasbag out there.
Joe Biden has forgotten more than Sarah will ever learn. He had legendary mentors like Averel Harriman and has spent years accumulating knowledge. When you have less knowledge, like Sarah, you don’t have so many things in your head to organize.
Sure Joe gets tangled up once in a while between facts and the word associations surrounding them. That’s what happens when you make lots of appearances and give lots of interviews – sooner or later something comes out wrong. But at least Joe is out there interacting instead of hiding under the bed.
BOOO!! Sarah

obama looked far more presidental than mcbush.and sounded it also–a little dignity at last –go home you old geser.
like letterman said paris was mccains first choice and she refused.

McCain/Palin = Corporations First
I agree with that but things like this mess McCain tried to fix he led several speeches on the floor trying to get this to change and I think its pretty significant that obama did nothing about it

Just goes to prove, you can take the boy out of the Ghetto but you can’t take the Ghetto out of the boy. Barry is a Fraud and always has been a FRAUD!!! America is finally waking up to this fact. Thank God!!!!!

reddog0216,
My point is bush has allowed things in all sectors of American life to deteriorate. By not enforcing laws and policies that would prevent it. Bush practiced benign neglect which Refers to doing nothing about a problem, in the hope that it will not be serious or will be solved by others. Classic bush rupublican philosophy.
Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | Sep 27, 2008 3:42:15 PM
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McCain/Palin = Corporations First
I agree with that but things like this mess McCain tried to fix he led several speeches on the floor trying to get this to change and I think its pretty significant that obama did nothing about it
Posted by: reddog0216 | Sep 27, 2008 3:49:24 PM
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Are you saying you agree with my post just above yours?

McCain/Palin = Corporations First Yes to some degree bush dropped the ball but McCain is not Bush

Just goes to prove, you can take the boy out of the Ghetto but you can’t take the Ghetto out of the boy. Barry is a Fraud and always has been a FRAUD!!! America is finally waking up to this fact. Thank God!!!!!
Posted by: stu | Sep 27, 2008 3:51:05 PM
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Funny you should mention that. Because Sarah Palin interviews remind me of a beauty contestant being asked questions during the Q & A part of the contest. Palin is the contestant who give an answer that makes the judges cringe diminishing her chance of winning.

p,
If you are so proud of what you say, then why don’t you have enough balls to use your real name?
Everyone on here who doesn’t have enough guts to use his/her real name should shut up!

Then again Obama looked like a gay monster in drag with all of that makeup.
Scary … and it’s not even Halloween!

McCain/Palin = Corporations First,
you really suck at being a paid Obama blogger.
you should get out of your mom’s basement and try to apply for a job at McDonalds.
Posted by: k | Sep 27, 2008 3:12:46 PM
Hey k, I guess your keyboard is broke anf won’t allow you to type the rest of your persona? Here I’ll type it for you kkk. There you go, it fits you and Obama/Biden=welfare first perfectly.

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He has acted just like bush during the campaign. So the only difference I see is McCain is older than bush. What do you see as different?
Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First
I see many diffrences He is a genuine person that was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth.I think he is more in
touch with the real world he donates over 20% of his salary to charity not one other nominee comes above 10% btw biden donates less than 1%.I see a man that is much more willing to vote on both sides than someone who is so closed minded that he votes 97% of the time with his party.I think he is alot stronger qualified than bush and went up against him on more than one ocassion

REDDOG
YOU DONT NEED A SILVER SPOON WHEN YOU MARRY A RICH DRUGGIE.

No Ed,
McCain came across mockingly and contemptuously, with occasional anger under the surface – not the sort of personna to be leading the free world. With that attitude he couldn’t even be a bipartisan negotiator.
By comparison Obama was

Sorry, cockatoo on the keyboard.
By comparison Obama was mostly collected, and assertive when necessary.

McCain’s grandfather and father were admirals. While that might not equste to silver spoon it certainly equates to sheltered life. And I two could give 20% of my senate salary if I had a wife worth over 10o million dollars. McCain could give his entire senate salary to charity and they wouldn’t miss it.
Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | Sep 27, 2008 4:16:53 PM
Have you ever been in the military sheltered is the last thing I would call it

reddog
IT IS HARD TO BE HUMBLE–WHEN YOU ARE PERFECT IN EVERY WAY.

The Birk Economic Recovery PLan
I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a ‘We Deserve It Dividend’ .
To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000 bon-a-fide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a ‘We Deserve It Dividend’ .
Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

REDDOG
ONE SMELLS AS BAD AS THE OTHER—-ASK HUGO —

RODNEY, YOU’RE RIGHT, THAT IS MY BAG, AND YOU WILL NOT EVER, EVEREVEREVER, EEEEEVVEERRR, EVER TOUCH MY BAG YOU HOMO FROM THE JUNGLE TREE, LMAO.

Biden’s comment is a bit much. McCain had his moments. I’d call it a tie. But gotta love Biden for comments like this:
When asked if he’d be “condescending” (to Palin), bringing up the fact that he’s been to all those places”
Biden said “No… I’m not going to do what John (McCain) did…”

why did Obama look so gay last night? It was bad enough before when he just had purple lips and big ears.
He looked absolutely horrendous last night.

McCain’s grandfather and father were admirals. While that might not equste to silver spoon it certainly equates to sheltered life. And I two could give 20% of my senate salary if I had a wife worth over 10o million dollars. McCain could give his entire senate salary to charity and they wouldn’t miss it.
Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | Sep 27, 2008 4:16:53 PM
Have you ever been in the military sheltered is the last thing I would call it
Posted by: reddog0216 | Sep 27, 2008 4:23:21 PM
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McCain as a child was sheltered. Tho privileged probably describes it better.

Obama is the anti-Christ

THEY ARE PURPLE BECAUSE RODNEY SAYS HE HOLDS GOOD PSI.

RODNEY, LMAO!

M/P COPORATIONS FIRST, I WORK FOR A LIVING, AND I PAY MY OWN HEALTH INSURANCE, OF MY CHOICE. I DON’T NEED A POLITION TELLING ME WHAT’S BEST FOR ME. LOOK WHAT THEY DID WITH OUR MONEY IN WASHINGTON. I ACTUALLY LIKE GETTING UP IN THE MORNING AND GOING TO WORK TO PAY MY BILLS WITHOUT GOVERMENT HANDOUTS. ALL I SEE IN OBAMA’S PLAN IS SOCIALISM. YOU MUST YOU LOVE BEING CONTROLLED AND TOLD WHAT TO DO. YES MR. OBAMA, I BOW TO YOU MR. OBAMA, YOU’RE SO WISE MR. OBAMA. YOU EVIDENTLY CAN’T DO ANYTHING FOR YOURSELF IF GOVERMENT HEALTH CARE PROMISES IS ALL YOU THINK ABOUT. THAT WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM, ONLY CAUSE MORE.

Biden must have been asleep, because all of us here in PA think it was a landslide victory for McCain. In the Scranton/WilkesBarre area of Northeastern PA a large group of predominantly democrat voters watched the debate and then voted afterward as to who they thought won. McCain got 75% of democrats. Barak Obama seems very rehearsed (book smart) whereas John McCain drew on his experience. He looked so much more presidential. All of the liberal biased media look at poise, posture and all of these other things and then rate them a tie or even have Obama ahead. But the people who will actually decide the vote on Nov. 4th have it as a landslide victory for John McCain. It wasn’t even close.

I’m a McCain supporter who is tired of hearing other republicans saying derogatory things about Barak Obama and his family. I don’t mind if you stick to his professional record and acquaintances or lack of experience, but to attack his family is just morally wrong. You are making the rest of us look bad, have some class. We all didn’t like it when the dems went after Sarah Palin and her family, so lets not stoop to their level.

Last Scranton poll (9/25):
Democrat Barack Obama edges Republican John McCain 50 percent to 44 percent in a poll taken Tuesday and Wednesday by SurveyUSA, conducted exclusively for WCAU-TV Philadelphia, KDKA-TV Pittsburgh, WNEP-TV Wilkes-Barre Scranton, WHTM-TV Harrisburg, and WJAC-TV Johnstown.

Today’s National Polls:
Gallup Tracking Obama 49, McCain 44 Obama +5
Rasmussen Tracking Obama 50, McCain 44
Obama +6
Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 48, McCain 43
Obama +5

Eddit – This is another example of how the liberals and their media don’t learn from or remember the past. Who lead most of the polls in 2000 and 2004, Gore and Kerry. Who won the election? I wonder, do you remember? Polls don’t mean crap, election day is what it all comes down too.

McCain won easily. Obama mumbled and bumbled thru the whole debate!

McNuts proved last night he is a commie, a traitor, and a coward! Anyone who votes for him deserves to get screwed. Take out your wallet and hand it over to the richest person in your town and prepare to become a serf

McCain is a pathological liar. All he has are lies and no plan. He shows up in the White House for a photo op and he doesn’t even had the time to read up on Paulsen’s plan. NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN.

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He must have learned these tactics from his communist, socialist, anarchist, Weather Underground friends.

EDDIT…..As for the poll you are talking about in the Scranton/WilkesBarre area, it wasn’t a formal poll not in the sense you are talking about. It was a very large room full of people watching the debate from that area and there was a national news correspondent there. I wish I had paid attention to exactly where it was held. I myself am from central PA. But after these people all watched the debate together, they took a vote as to who they thought won the debate, and the corresponsdent said the majority of people from that area are democrat. And the vote was 75% in favor of McCain. Don’t know what else to tell you. I found it very interesting.

I hope Palin aswer questions with the same stupidity as always.

Biden continues with his lies as always. I don’t think EITHER candidate came out a “true” winner last night.
I did find it interesting that Obama agreed with McCain 55 times during the debate. This lets America know who has the true leadership skills needed for the job…President John S. McCain!

kravitz:
I didn’t know that Democrat Senator
Robert C Byrd, Former KKK Member,
was at the debate in Mississippi!
You should be proud that your party
still honors and respects a racist
like Byrd! Dunce!

Oh my good Lord…I’m registered Independent. I will NOT be voting for either major candidate in November, but McCain ripped Obama to shreds! He showed the man’s inexperience, his lack of ability to form an adequate, INTELLIGENT response when challenged. Experience shows. And Obama has no experience worth mentioning. His record stands…as a tax and spend socialist who will take your guns, your money and your right to make an intelligent choice on subjects guaranteed by the Constitution…a document I’m constantly questioning whether Obama has actually read.

what’s all this garbage about McCain that these whacked out moonbats from the left are spewing on these posts? Come on people, you know that McCain beat your thumbsucking baby’s butt…you just can’t admit it! Instead you come up with “ringers’ like….”mccain looked OLD.” Gee whizz, why are you playing the “race ” card over and over ad nauseum…
You know how to play the game,
OJ taught you

this is Obama sitting in the front pew with Michelle and the kids…listening to Rev. Wright spit hatred towards whites and jews, hatred toward America over and over and over and over and over and over for twenty…count ‘em, twenty looooooooooooong years….sitting there saying AMEN each time Rev. Wright snarled another racist comment towards YOU (US- AMERICAN”S)…if you happen to be white ..that is.
Obama was so impressed he gave him $20k of his own money to help “spread the word” to others…so they could continue Rev. Wrights’ “work” in spreading hatred towards whites and jews accross the land………
AMEN
God Damn America,
“YO” BAMA

As for Sarah Palin, we all have to remember the democratic party and the biased liberal media have done a real hack job on Sarah Palin. They went after her like she was the #1 on the ticket, because after the convention she made their #1 look mediocre. So she didn’t have the best interview with Katie, big deal, have you listened to Joe Biden lately and nobody is even asking him any questions. We have to go back to her accomplishments in Alaska and what made John pick her in the first place. He didn’t pick her because she gives a good interview, he picked her because she is a go getter and she will help trim the fat in Washington. I have not lost my respect or support for her, that is exactly what the democrats want to happen. Fellow Republicans don’t play into it! Stand by our girl and she will work hard for all Americans in Washington.

So she didn’t have the best interview with Katie, big deal,
LMAO This is why they are keeping her under lock and key. I was so embarrassed for her. And the only reason McCain picked her was to win over the conservative base. If he were truely a maverick he would have picked Lieberman who was his first choice.

Wasn’t Biden the one who said Obama wasn’t qualified and presidency didn’t have on the job training and he would be proud to serve with John McCain. I THOUGH SO. Clinton also said he wasn’t qualified. In the debate he may of held his own with words but it was all talking points that he is so used to saying. So it’s clear Dems picked a very good talker but very under qualified man. So if you want to believe everything Biden says REMEMBER IT ALL not just the parts you like.

So, when did Biden come out of hiding from the draft long enough to make a statement?
Did Old Joe think he needed to apply for another deferment?
And, who cares what MBNA Joe has to say, anyway?
Anybody But Obama/Biden…

Biden still thinks he saw FDR on TV…in 1930.

HOW DO YOU GIVE A ONE TIME TAX BREAK OF $500 OR $1000 FOR COUPLES, THEN RAISE TAXES AND EXPECT THAT TO HELP THE ECONOMY. ONCE MY EMPLOYER GETS TAXED THE SH*T WILL START TO GO DOWN HILL ON TAXES. THATS WHAT THEY SAY, RAISE TAXES ON THE WEALTHY, AND THEN THE TAXES TRICKLES DOWN TO EVERY ONE ELSE. I ONLY SEE SOCIALISM WITH OBAMA. IT’S FUNNY, ALL HIS FAMOUS FRIENDS LIKE AYERS BELIEVE IN THE SAME POLITICS. SOMETHING SMELLS AND IT’S COMING FROM HIS DIRECTION.

No offense, Joe Biden, Mr. Gaffy.

I would like to address all posters: I have now heard Evangelicals saying that Sarah Palin was prepared by God for this role and from a recent post that Obama was picked by God. Folks, regardless of your religion let me make one point very clear here GOD IS NOT INTO POLITICS AND HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH GOVERNMENT! You want proof? OK you can find it in the Holy Bible and in all versions: Mark 12:17 And Jesus answered and said to them “Render, therefore, to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s” Now your ministers have told you this means to pay your taxes, vote in elections and to respect laws, etc., but in a much larger sense Jesus clearly meant that we are NOT to mix religion with government. This passage represents a clear separation of religion and government and violation of this is, therefore against God wishes. So, friends let’s cut out all of this God has prepared her or God has pick him and so on. GOD IS NOT INTO POLITICS SO STOP WITH ALL OF THIS NONSENSE! Hitler and the Germans though God was on their side too and so did the Japanese! Just how long will it take for you understand this point. Stop insulting God and make your case without reference to divine intervention! Whoever wins on November 4 will do so because he was able to convince American voters that he was the right man for the job. None of your posts will convince the other side to vote for their man so why don’t you find something more constructive to do?

Hitler and the Germans though God was on their side too and so did the Japanese!
Posted by: WISDOM FIRST!
WISDOM FIRST! please read the link.
Obama is a true hitler like danger WAKE UP!
Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

I think it’s hilarious that some people on this blog actually think Palin will be able to throw Biden off his game. Have you seen Palin discuss the issues? The Couric interview was disturbing to watch. How could this moronic woman have gotten so far? And how could this old man with such poor judgment have picked her for his own political gain, and have the nerve to say, “country first”…. what a bunch of bull!
Obama was poised, cool, calm and articulate. Palin will flounder and flop around like a fish, and Biden will have his limelight! I can’t wait! I actually feel sorry for her. but her ego won’t let her withdraw, so perhaps, I won’t pity her too much.

Do not worry about Palin, she has a voice like Marylin Monroe.
Remember the DRAFT that blew up her skirt? Marylin that is.
Watch Terrorist activity on CNN

Can anybody tell me where that field is?
Maybe there is a Websight or Picture, of it?
I hope CNN and MSNBC can help the RED CROSS, with the Poor Countries and ours.

If Obama wins the White House it will be because he has been anointed by mainstreem media to do so. The media portrays Obama in an angelic light, ignoring the facts about his Bill Ayers connection and his time in Chicago. They don’t talk about his record or lake of it. They dont talk about how Obama’s attitude toward our brave soldiers while he was visting Iraq. They dont tell you that the bracelet Obama wore in the debates, he wore even after the family had asked him not to use their son’s death for his political gain…but he did it anyway! America better wake up and find out who Barak Obama REALLY is and not take every word the media feeds us as the truth!!

Which of you Republicans on this site has the guts to say Palin wasn’t the most qualified VP choice for John McCain?

The disparity between Barack “Acorn” Obama’s debate commentary and his actual Senate record was astounding. Had McCain chosen to, he could have spent the entire night exposing Obama’s outright distortions. “I support a missile defense system.” Obama has vowed to CX the program if elected. “I recognize the need for a strong military in dealing with rogue Nations.” Obama has vowed to cut tens-of-billions from the military budget; and, to terminate advanced weapons programs. “I support the gasification of coal.” Obama voted against it. “I support nuclear power.” Obama has vowed to terminate the production of fissile material. The feedstock for nuclear power plants. I’ll give 95% of Americans a tax reduction in their Federal Income Taxes.” A real Obama ‘hat trick’ since more than 40% of Americans don’t pay ANY Federal Income Tax. “I agree, we need to control excessive government spending.” Obama has proposed hundreds of billions of $s in NEW government spending; to include Foreign Giveaways mostly directed at Africa; and, even to the point of providing government funded health care for 20million+ illegal aliens. “I warned of the deregulation of the mortgage industry.” Obama fought Bush Administration efforts to reign in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae; and, even proposed legislation to prohibit mortgage lenders from tightening standards on low income borrowers. Not to mention the fact that he was a primary beneficiary of industry largess; tried to funnel tens-of-billions of $s in the Democrat’s recent “Bailout Package” to the Acorn extremists; and, welcomed the likes of Bob Johnson, Franklin Raines and Penny Pritzker into his campaign structure. Etc. Etc. Etc. The only way to express Obamaspeak in a civil dialectic is to note that the man is a congenital liar. God help us if the majority of Americans are beguiled by this novice circus comic. Greg Neubeck

At the vice presidential debate, I wonder if Joe Biden would ask Sarah Palin do she know about McCain temperment. The use of profanity, his shouting, his irritability, and outbursts of anger.
What about McCain as a naval pilot who flew twenty three bombing mission over North Vietnam. Droping bomb and killing thousands of innocent women and childen.
What about McCain war recorder as a POW. While a prisoner of war,McCain was giving SPECIAL treatment. Because the Vietnamese learned that McCain father will soon to be commander of all U.S. forces in the Pacific including Vietnam.

OBAMA has proved nothing except that his reading of the teleprompter gets worse the more the campaign goes on.
He looks less competent every showing. You Democrats are a real embarrassment to me, a former “LIBERAL”!
What does everyone have against reality?
This country has become one big tragedy!

Oh, yea…I almost forgot to mention that whatever Keith “Flatulance” Olberman and Chris “Coitus Interruptus” Matthews have to say, I do the exact opposite. Never have I seen such shining examples of human flatulance as these two “tingly legged” Obama water boys.

Wow! This has got to be one of the nastiest blogs I’ve ever read. In my book, the nastier the writer, the lesstruth in what he says. Nasty= stupid. I want a SMART president, not a sneering snipey one. I’m for Obama. And, btw, I’m a senior white female.

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY RACIEST BLOGGERS ON THIS SITE YOU AGRUGUMENTS ARE SILLY SEE THE FACTS OPEN YOUR MINDS AND HEART
OBAMA IS BEST FOR US NOW SEE WHAT THE GOP HAS DONE TO OUR ECONOMY ITS CRAZY VOTE FOR CHANGE DO NOT BE DUMB

I share your pain and concern I am a die hard republican but just lost my job as a result of this financial mess. I was never comfortable with a black man being president but after this debate i now realize how silly I have been I will be voting For Obama he is really a very intelligent guy and he really has better judgement than Mccain on The Economy and Foriegn policy
This November Join me my fellow republicans…..republican for Obama, yes we can

I can’t wait to see the great things that are going to happen when Obama is president and Joe Biden is vice president! I’m sick of the Bush administration and what they have done to the country I love. Too bad that all the Republicans can do is spew lies, smear and spin tactics. I’m a 52 year old woman who loves this country we can do so much better in the world and at home!

To Lost my Job,
Watch what you wish for. I don’t see where you think Obama’s economic policies and tax plan will bring jobs for you. If you can’t find a job now it’s not going to get any better with Obama raising taxes on the small business that is any that gross over 250,000 dollars. That will kill the small business man from expanding and probably make them cut back (layoff workers)to allow for the tax increase. Some small businesses might just completely close or not start up because they can’t be profitable. Therefore no expansion, no new jobs, no new investment in the stock market or real estate. The small business is the engine of our economy and Obama is going to put a severe hurt on it. When companies make profits they invest expand,increase pay and hire new employees. Here in WV the coal market is at an all time high. New mines are opening everywhere kids just out of high school are getting jobs with great pay 18 to 28 dollars an hour starting out with overtime and bonuses and benifits even gas allowances to help off set the high price of gas. So don’t tell me that when companies make profits its always bad. For once it’s not so bad in WV now. Our Democratic ran government for the past 76 years has left us last in nearly every catagory only now that we have started putting Republicans in office the past two elections are things starting to get better here. When still have an outragious tax policy for businesses and have a way to go but, we are starting to see the light around here.

You know what gets me…. Why do people feel the need to personally identify with our leaders. I want my leader to be smarter and better than me, not someone I’d like to have a beer with, or watch a football game with.
If I’m gonna have anyone fighting for america for the next four years, I’d rather have the smarter guy. You McCain supporters can stick with stupid (894 out of 899 in his class..WTF). Honestly, how do you perform that low in school? That’s the bottom .5%. I’ll be more obvious and direct for the slower McCain supporters. McCain is either seriously challenged or incompetent.
For whatever reason you have against Obama, please let it be a good one. For the sake of our country, our brave soldier who risk their lives, and our future generations of children, DO NOT CAST YOUR VOTE FOR RACIST TENDENCIES, SPITE, OR IGNORANCE. Our country deserves a careful and thoughtful vote from everyone.

Not only is McCain out of touch but….anybody here that advocates voting for McCain who is a member of the republican party the same party that has screwed up and ruined our great nation is either a paid blogger, delusional or stupid. I could add more but you get the picture. Why should republicans get rewarded for screwing up? Isn’t that like rewarding CEOs with huge bonuses even when they screw up the company. Sure let’s reward the people that screwed things up. Who’s stupid enought to do that? A fool, idiot, moron, masochist, lobbyist?

Folks, look at the posts from the McCain crowd. No facts, just the same old tripe, character assassination and bogus claims as is their custom. You are trying to argue your case with facts to people who are
blinded to the truth because it interferes with their ideology. This isn’t about right or wrong for them; it’s about their tribe winning against the other tribe. You are simply casting pearls before swine.

Obama was relaxed, presidential, knowledgeable, clear. McCain made it clear that he cannot suffer any disagreement without becoming angry and derisive. If he cannot look at Obama, how is he going to face Putin or Ahmedinajad? I agree, this was a fatal loss at the end of a fatal week. And no one is even talking about how Rick Davis’s company now admits it has been receiving 15,000 dollar a month right up to NOW, when Davis is evidently not doing any work, but just because he is ‘close to McCain’. Check this out!!! Is this a massive campaign donation or is it influence peddling? Now wait for the other shoe to fall with the Oct. 6 release of information on McCain burying the POW issues. It’s a downward spiral….

I don’t believe there was a clear winner in this debate. I did find McCain’s try @ making Obama seem like a child by always saying “he doesn’t understand” made McCain look old & like someone who thought his way is the ONLY way. (We see where that has gotten us in the last 8 years.) I consider myself an independent & would have voted for McCain the first time he ran; when he WAS a straight talker, but this is NOT THE SAME McCAIN! He has sold himself to Bush & the far right.