Biden Says No to Coal Plants in America

Let’s not forget another flash of Joe Biden’s I.Q.–which of course, is “higher than yours”:
“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed,” Biden told Katie Couric. “He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’”
As Reason’s Jesse Walker footnotes it: “And if you owned an experimental TV set in 1929, you would have seen him. And you would have said to yourself, ‘Who is that guy? What happened to President Hoover?’”
You just can’t make this stuff up! LOL!

“NO coal plants here in America,” he said. “Build them, if they’re going to build them, OVER THERE. Make them clean.”
Hey Joe, be sure to repeat that message at all your campaign stops in Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Kentucky—especially to all those Union Coal Miners. Idiot.
This answer fits quite nicely into John McCain’s case that Obama has been saying “no” to ALL new sources of energy. As they said at the Dem convention, “The most important barrel of oil is the one we don’t use.”
McCain did not miss a beat:
ARLINGTON, VA — Congresswoman Shelly Moore Capito (R-WV), former Virginia Governor and Senator George Allen, former Congressman Scott McInnis (R-CO) and RNC Chairman Mike Duncan will announce the McCain-Palin campaign’s Coalition to Protect Coal Jobs, a nationwide group including members of Congress, state government and other influential leaders. The coalition will help spread the message about the importance of clean coal technology and the advantages of tapping the country’s vast coal reserves. As part of John McCain’s “all of the above” energy plan, the Lexington Project, clean coal will be a strong component of the drive to energy independence. In addition to providing domestic energy, the coal industry is a key part of the economy in several states.
John McCain’s support for clean coal technology is in sharp contrast to that of his opponents. Joe Biden visited Virginia on Saturday, saying that he was a “hard-coal miner” and that it was “nice to be back in coal country” while Obama supporter, Congressman Rick Boucher (D-VA) said “Senator Obama’s a friend of coal.” But just two days later in Ohio, Senator Biden said he wants “no coal plants here in America” and that he and Senator Obama are “not supporting clean coal.”

This was recorded a week ago. I see that a desperate McCain camp is really searching for anything at this point.

and what did Palin say?

Jake, This is what I am talking about. You all take verbal hiccups and turn them into a controversy. Biden was telling the supporter that we would not build any “dirty” coal plants, that is what Chicna is doing. We are going to develop clean coal technologies. Please stop tring to keep the score even by reporting any insignificant tidbit. How about getting Palin to talk to the press? How come you are so subserviant the McCain campaign that you won’t report the blocking maneuvers they are taking so that you can’t ask her a question. how about their little game today with meeting these foreign officials. What a joke they are making of our “Free Press”.. You all are stooges.

Maybe they shouldn’t let Biden speak to the press, either……………….

honestly, I currently have more respect for Biden right now. At least he is honest about what he wants and doesn’t just tell people, not even his own party, what they WANT to hear.

It matters not when…it is a stupid thing to say about coal. Biden lost West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, and the remainder of the coal states.
All the coal regions have depressed economies. There is such a thing as CLEAN COAL technology.

No coal, no drilling, better figure out how to run your car on vegetables and water. And it’s not like it’s our fault THEY killed the electric car! Biden is a fool.

The media got scolded by McCain’s thugs yesterday so they are searching through old tapes in hopes of finding something negative to report about Obama and Biden.

“i’m Joe Biden”
Biden was talking about after the crash…duh.
how dumb does America have to be again to fall for this bologne and changing the meaning of sentences
like they have for 8 years.
Biden WAS talking about clean coal technology.

THIS IS STUPID!

OK, to cater to the Hollywood Tree hugging campaign donors, Obama/Biden will basically shut down coal mining and anything that currently is non-environmental for the benefit of the wealthy Hollywood people, while the hardworking people of involved in mining lose their jobs. The solution is “clean burning” which will cost Americans more to heat their homes, and that will be difficult without a job. Change is great, but let’s do it in a sensible manner, we need to be self supporting, then diversify.

He said “King Coal,” like “Big Oil”; ya know? Listen.

biden was talking about dirty coal morons
same team same morons who try to spin…and gave us the last 8 years…
9th year. throw these spinning hiding lying covering up moron bums out.

Obama could supply half the US energy needs by running a giant generator with his hot air!

THIS IS A STUPID POST! Biden simply confused a word, which happens a lot on the campaign trail in ALL FOUR of the candidates. They are clearly sleep deprived and have too many speeches to master at the same time. His statement reminds me of the yes/no back and forth game where you try to trip the other person by making them they say the opposite of what they intend. A good journalist would draw his attention to that and allow him to correct it.
TAPPER LIKES TO STIR THE POST, CREATE FALSE CONTROVERSIES AND WASTE PEOPLE’S TIME WITH DISINFORMATION. It only undermines his credibility in the end.

Hey Bhrandon, wow…. how could anyone vote for Obama who is untested, and under qualified to be on a presidential ticket?

Jake
Obama and Biden are jerks who cannot sing out of the same song book. Pretty simple!

Where is Carla Fiorina, or whatever? His biggest financial advisor, backer , whatever? He is not smart enough to run HP, and SHE GOT A HUGE Parachute? 24000 layoffs…Maverick? Cmon, where is she? GONE, why? Because she told the truth, he is too OLD, and she is a Slamhound.

Go to pollster.com! McCain is getting killed in the state polls the past several days, thus a desperate McCain camp is grasping for straws.

dl,
Exactly. Obama made a similar mistake during his “60 minutes” with Steve Kroft las Sunday. I’m not sure if either one of them noticed it because Kroft seemed to be gazing into his eyes more than anything else.
Obama, Palin, McCain and Biden’s speech delivery all suck right now; and anyone with the attention span of gnat will judge them on that basis or refuse to consider the context of their statements. You can tell that their teleprompters are changing several times a day, you need at least 2 or 3 go-throughs to master the delivery of a speech, if you’re any good at it to begin with.
I’m judging them according to their intentions and their policy track record – McCain, populist regulator my **s. I used do trust that man and wanted to vote for him based on his character, but I don’t recognize him anymore.

Eve
And you trust Obama? I’m shocked!

Biden: he was for it before he is against it.

I’m sure that Saturday Night Live will be just as reluctant to mine Joe Biden’s mother lode of Comedy Gold, as Biden is to mine America’s coal.

Obama & Biden = Left hand not knowing what right hand is doing.
AIG bailout
Biden: NO BAILOUT!
Obama: Joe should have not siad that.
Anti-McCain Computer Ad:
Obama: McCain does not know how to email.
Biden: It’s a shame to run that ad.
Now, Coal Plant:
Obama: We’ll build clean coal plant.
Biden: NO COAL PLANT!!!
And don’t forget “Hillary VP”:
Obama: I chose Joe Biden to be my VP.
Biden: Obama should have chosen Hillary.
and, LOL,…
Bill Clinton: My wife never wanted to be Obama’s VP; athough if she were asked she would gladly accepted; but I don’t think she ever asked for the job, even though that offer would be an outstanding choice, politically.
GET THE PICTURE, AMERICA???!!!

Can someone tell me where you can get a license to build a dirty coal plant? You can’t anyway, so it’s a non-issue. What Biden was referring to was no to any coal-fired plant. It’s plain and simple when you read the transcript. He recognized that he had to cater to the tree-huggers. He also stands in the way to convert coal into liquids which could reduce our reliance on oil. That technology has been proven to work. He just threw the coal miners under the bus. Apparently, Biden has the authority to act on behalf of the great prophet! If there are no plants to use coal, then there are no jobs for the miners, period! The coal is not going to China because their reserves are enormous. Enough said about gaffe-prone-Biden and Obamaprophet.

All you faithful cult followers of the Obamessiah, just keep on spinning like Iranian centrifuges.

HP didn’t just layoff 24,000 employees all at once as you make it sound. That number is the total layoff over the next year that is needed to eliminate duplicate staffing jobs post-acquisition of EDS. I work for HP so please don’t tell half the story like you know what it’s all about.

dl,
PS – Muslims pray 5 times a day facing Mecca and follow other distinct lifestyle habits, making it impossible to hide when you’re on the campaign trail most hours of the day. And if you aren’t abiding by the laws in the Koran, you’re perceived as being an infidel, no different from a non-beliver. Christian call it back-slidding.
I’ve yet to see a picture of Barack Obama attending an ‘unsceduled’ appearance at a mosque, he can’t even construct a sentence in Arabic, so let it go.

What does LOL mean? I see it a lot, but don’t know. Sorry I am stupid…

Interesting how ABC News finishes the article with all the positives for Obama and Biden. This is typical in the tank journalism.
The fact is this is Biden’s position and the real Obama’s position.
This is typical Obama/Biden. Say one thing to particular constituent and something else to another. Can we say cling to your guns and religion quote from Obama.
Let’s face it Obama is your typical politican. He is not this change agent that the media wants you to believe.
I’m sure the main stream media will not report the facts on this. The major point of all of this is McCain is for comprehensive energy (includes Oil, Coal and Nuclear) whereas Obama is not for a true comprehensive energy plan that would include Nuclear and Coal. Obama is also for limited Oil exploration.

This an excellent article , thanks , I’m grateful to you .

Thank you, ablanche08!

Hey HP Boston,
Given that you’re such an eloquent genius, what do you think he meant by saying: “IF” you owned a “EXPERIMENTAL” TV set….

Wow… Barry and the DNC have decided to drop Biden for Hillary, But first Joe needs to play along and say dumb things… I got this one figured out.

And finally, if someone tells you McCain is a third term Bush and that BO is “Mr. liberal” please pass on this info:
“Obama often says that McCain voted 90% of the time with Bush. What he doesn’t say is that Obama himself voted 88% of the time with Bush and even voted for the Cheney energy plan. Hillary didn’t and neither did McCain.
What they don’t tell you is that McCain voted 97% of the time with the Democrats and that he has the worst conservative voting record of any Republican. He voted liberal 20% of the time.
(A little tip when you hear Obama lying about McCain’s voting record: most votes in the Senate are unanimous consent.)” http://www.redhotandbluepolitics.com

Thank you Carol, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Clean Coal is a bad technology. For one, its as expensive as renewables, yet it still pollutes heavy metals and greenhouse gases. Why invest in a dirty technology just as expensive as wind and solar?
Because money talks and coal miners vote. We need to stop thinking about what makes vested interests happy and what’s actually good for this country’s energy future

Coal: Obama, whose support for coal-to-liquid has been widely criticized by environmentalists, sent out a press release clarifying his position on liquid coal:
Senator Obama supports research into all technologies to help solve our climate change and energy dependence problems, including shifting our energy use to renewable fuels and investing in technology that could make coal a clean-burning source of energy…However, unless and until this technology is perfected, Senator Obama will not support the development of any coal-to-liquid fuels unless they emit at least 20% less life-cycle carbon than conventional fuels.
This “clarification” is an important step for the Obama campaign in trying to gain support from environmental organizations and voters. However, the LA Times notes that his position change on this issue is even more significant because it symbolizes “there’s a race to the top among the Democratic candidates for the strongest position on how to solve the climate crisis.”
(Source: Carbon Coalition)

So is Obama lying or not? Does he want clean coal or not? Wha me worry?

Obama needs many miracles to be president of this great nation.
McCain/Palin does not need any miracles.
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I think Joe Biden’s concerned that his Commie friends in the People’s Republic won’t have enough coal themselves to run their 52 new coal power plants a year if we hog it all for ourselves…selfish Americans. Who needs electricity anyway? Communes can get along fine on cow manure.
If this guy’s VP he’s going to open his big mouth and call Ahmadinejad a ‘raghead’ or something and cause World War III. He’ll make GW look like Neville Chamberlain in comparison.
Good point above about Biden not being able to keep up with Obama’s ever-changing positions…ROTFLMAO!

I live on the west coast of Washington state, if you think a couple thousand miles is far enough away fron China’s coal plants you are sadly mistaken. We are already seeing the effects of the plants they already have and with more coming on a daily basis Joe Biden is absolutely correct that we best start figuring out a way to help China clean their plants up or we are the ones that get to choke on their fumes. This may be our last chance to save ourselves and the rest of the world, stop being so selfish and give a little thought to your children and grandchildrens future, at least with Obama and Biden they will have a “chance” at having a future. With McCain and Palin and the current situation of this world, it’s over baby, we’re talking Planet of the Apes if we are lucky!

GIGI, Never Forget….I hear the Democrats talk about Roosevelt pulling America out of the depression of 1929. However, I hear no words about President Johnson. President Johnson expanded the Viet Nam War to kill innocent Americans and Vietnamese for the profits of the Democratic war machine. Obama said to sent troops into Pakistan and he knows sending troops into Pakistan will expand the Middle East conflict. No one can win in Pakistan because you cannot fight a conventional war there. That means more money for the Democratic war machine and less money for American projects

Why is the media so up in arms about an off-the-cuff comment Biden made while they’re not reporting anything about McCain’s long-term and sustained attack on coal jobs?
John McCain has been on the attack against the coal industry for years, starting with legislation he proposed in 2003–Senate Bill 139, the Climate Stewardship Act of 2003–that would have just about wiped out the coal industry in the United States.
The U.S. Energy Information Administration released an analysis of S. 139 in May, 2004, which said the reductions in coal production under the McCain legislation was estimated to be 78 percent by 2025. Since it takes coal miners to produce coal, that would mean a drastic reduction in employment, most of which would have fallen heavily on more labor-intensive mines like we have in Appalachia.
But Sen. McCain was just getting warmed up. He teamed up with Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) just last year and proposed climate change legislation–Senate Bill 280–that once again took a meat-axe approach to Appalachian coal. In that bill, McCain specifically targeted Appalachian coal production for cuts of 30 percent or more, while encouraging production of coal from Wyoming, according to an analysis done of the legislation by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
Both Obama and McCain have proposed a variety of solutions to dealing with energy issues. They both say that they want to reduce reliance on foreign sources of energy and build an infrastructure in America that relies on a mix of sources to meet the ever-expanding energy needs of our nation, while at the same time reducing greenhouse gases.
But the devil is in the details, and once again Sen. McCain doesn’t measure up when it comes to the potential for coal–our nation’s most abundant energy resource–to continue to be the major contributor to meeting our future energy needs.
The kicker of McCain’s energy plan is to build 45 new nuclear plants across America by 2025, the first wave of 100 new nuclear plants he foresees. The negative impact on coal production and jobs from these plants will be extremely significant. And let’s face it–no matter what happens with respect to climate change over the next 50 to 100 years, the waste generated by a nuclear plant tomorrow will still be deadly to all life 10,000 years from now. Our distant descendants will likely be worrying about staying warm during the next ice age about then.
With the coming development of clean coal technologies like carbon capture and storage (CCS), America is on the brink of being able to use coal to generate energy without contributing any more greenhouse gases to the environment. Sen. McCain pays lip service to CCS, but the record shows that coal has a very limited future in John McCain’s vision of America.
Sen. Barack Obama, on the other hand, is from a coal state and clearly understands the long-term role coal can play in our nation’s energy future. He has pledged to fund development of CCS technology so that it can be deployed as soon as possible. He has said that America is the “Saudi Arabia of coal” and that we ought to be working as hard as we can to figure out how to use it for decades to come.
So the choice for coal miners, their families, their neighbors and everyone living in the coalfield communities throughout the coalfields of the U.S. Barack Obama is for the long-term future of your job and John McCain is not. Keep that in mind when you vote on Nov. 4.

I read with interest the idea that Nuclear Power is the answer. I live in a state from which we get the uranium to fuel nuclear power. My father helped build the very first uranium mining plant here in Colorado. There were two sites here, still are, I expect, as the mines were not played out at the time we stopped using uranium. I lived my whole growing years in a family who relied on that industry. I almost lost my father twice to accidents, and apparently, people have just forgotten the Three-Mile Island incident, the Chernobyl incident, or just plain don’t know or don’t care about the harm done to miners and millers who worked in the nuclear industry just a few years ago when we were still digging out the radioactive sand from under our houses here in Grand Junction.
My little town of Uravan, a place built by Uranium and Vanadium, is gone because it was a super-fund cleanup. The leakage from the settling ponds was threatening our ground water, not to mention the use of radioactive sand underneath the houses because it was such great “fill dirt.” We were not allowed to swim downstream from the plant because the water was so polluted, the fish had died (it took many miles for the water to be clean enough for fish to live). Also, the water itself was so nasty to drink, you only drank it with something in it for taste (this was before pre-filtered drinking water). One time, we left water in a jar when we went away for the weekend. When we came back, the water had rusted because of the mineral content. And nobody thought about the damage to those digging the uranium, preparing it, or what to do with the radioactive waste, which, as all of us discovered, was still radioactive. I speak from experience. I know about how much the industry could provide in jobs. However, when the uranium is spent, and our land is raped for its minerals, its oil, its coal, what then? What next?
How many of you know that there was a time in our history when people actually paid to go sit in a uranium mine hoping for a cure from the “invisible beams” it sent out. Perhaps they were on the right track, since we use a focused radiation technology to treat prostate cancer, but I guarantee you they were not getting focused radiation to specific tissue to kill it–just possible cancer, or horrendous side effects. Marie Curie (read your history), who obtained her uranium from Uravan, died from her discovery, from radiation, and our government tried very hard to defend itself against the claims of miners hurt by this industry, and this was not that long ago people, not even my lifetime. I am still a fairly young woman. Uravan only closed in the 1970′s. To show you the danger that we really did not know we were living with, none of the people in my block were allowed to take any part of the building or yard with them (my parents wanted to take the gate from our backyard, as a memento). They were told that it was all contaminated. Wonderful? Huh? I grew up there, until I went to college. My brother was there even longer than I. My husband and I often joke that he married me because she “glows in the dark, saves on electricity,” and then we laugh. But somewhere inside me sometimes I wonder, I truly do.
Lately, I have heard so much about how safe nuclear power is now, and what I hear Obama saying is that nuclear power is on the table, just that we have to be safe, truly safe, about the use of it. Look at our history people. That is what it teaches us. When they cleaned the mill up at Uravan, I knew someone who was involved in the cleanup. He told me that the people who cleaned up where my daddy worked, the yellow-cake driers (processed uranium for those of you who don’t know), wore radiation badges and protective suits to do so. The man who worked there told me that his badge came out black every time he worked there (meaning he would have gotten a lot of exposure). My father worked there in boots, pants, coveralls, and a shirt, with a hard hat. (He also had work gloves, I believe). After working there, in that highly radioactive environment, he came home, bringing the mud of the day with him on his clothes. His clothes went into the washer with my brothers’ and sisters’ clothes. Amazingly, we are still here, and still cancer-free. (Though my father has passed on). We received money for his radiation exposure, by the way, after he was gone. My father, thank heavens, was not affected, apparently (except for perhaps ruining his lungs in the ammonia tank explosion that happened there). His constitutional genetic makeup, lucky for him, was apparently resistant to the effects. Plus, because of having malaria in WWII, he was unable to work in the mines. Other people he worked with were not so lucky (my mother keeps track of former Uravanites who have passed on). Also, we, his children, growing up on and around tailings and settling ponds still might see the affects of that, and there are no benefits for us.
The town of Uravan is no more. The settling ponds are gone. The radioactive waste sits decaying somewhere, and, by the way, we still are not sure what to do with the spent results of what we draw out of the ground. We also got to see the results of the Chernobyl accident first hand, as well, in Germany. At the time of the twin towers falling that was where we were, watching my son get married, with a stay during that time at the home of my daughter-in-law’s family. Now I had always wanted to see the Black Forest and pick mushrooms. I had a geology teacher who had piqued my interest as a child. My hosts took me there, but they told me that, as far as picking mushrooms in the black forest and eating them, that was only allowed once a month because of the Chernobyl accident in Russia, and that it had only been recently the radiation counts in the mushrooms were low enough to allow that. I was amazed. After all, we were not in Russia, we were in Germany. They explained that when Chernobyl happened, it contaminated the ground clear down into the black forest, and that mushrooms pick up the radiation and store it. The radiation counts after Chernobyl didn’t allow anyone to pick and eat them because of the deadly effects. Mmmmmmm, and I am supposed to be trusting of nuclear power? Just trust that our government will take care of us? I think not. I hear you saying, but look at what it could mean to us, and I say. Yes, LOOK at what this could mean to us. Remember people, those who do not remember the lessons of history are bound to repeat them. Look at the banking problems. Look at the fact that we are still dependent on foreign oil when wind, water, and solar options are, and have been, available at least since the 80′s. (I should know we invested in a solar panel at that time, when the government gave us a tax break for energy investments). I live in a place with sunshine 320 days of the year. Put the active solar systems on our houses here and our town could light up its own lights (I would bet on this) and probably provide excess to people who have less fair climates. I hear my sister-in-law talking about drilling our way out. Once again, I wonder if any of you would like to have an oil derrick plopped down in your backyard, with the attendant insanity that would transpire. Here in Colorado, I saw a cow standing next to a derrick. How many of you are for sacrificing our tourist economy, the very land we live on and air we breathe, when we ourselves got into this by not being responsible about our buying, as well. How many of you are out there with some monstrous machine that eats gallons of gas and oil? I would bet more than are comfortable to admit it.
Finally, let me say that, like Obama, I believe in being responsible in getting us off foreign oil, helping us, middle America, with those tax dollars we paid into the big-oil industry. Think about what that could mean, really mean, to producing new jobs. It would be new industry, whether it is clean- (we must emphasize clean) coal technology (so that we don’t return to years of acid rain); bio-diesel; electric cars with perhaps solar generators for part of that energy, as well; hybrids; hydrogen-based cars; responsible use of nuclear energy (sans radiation burns, higher cancer deaths, ruining of the local ecosystem), safe drilling for oil offshore (keeping in mind tourist industry and extremely ugly oil derricks), and natural gas exploration (without drilling into the Rulison project or ruining the surrounding countryside for tourists [I have news for you, mineral deposits may go away, tourism is forever, if you remember to keep intact the scenery]).
There is a lot here, I know, but I don’t believe that Senator McCain knows or understands any of it, sad to say. This a complex issue, one that is not going to be easily solved with just a surface understanding of the whys and means of things. I wanted those of you reading to know and remember exactly what reviving the nuclear industry could mean to the country, the inherent danger in it. It is even another kettle of fish when it comes to clean coal. I think the idea of CLEAN coal usage is an amazing idea. I just don’t want us to return to that slash-and-burn approach to sources energy that people used to apply to the search for gold. (If you want to see what damage that caused to the environment, go up above the Ouray, Silverton, and Telluride areas and view the dump areas and toxic ponds where nothing grows. Some of these are cleaned up now, but there is still enough evidence for you to maybe see the downside of what all of you are so doggedly persistent in supporting. Pay attention to the scarring of the land, remember that in a truly “free market” there would still be no protections against poisoning both the land, and its people.
As scared as we are right now, we have a responsibility, I believe, as stewards of this land. A steward takes good care of the land because the land is the thing that ultimately shelters and feeds him. I tell you now, remember the land now, or we will all regret it later.

Hello,
I am a registered Democrat from NE PA and I am a woman.I hope that the women who view these comments here this evening ready mine.
I am just writing to comment about something on CNNs channel this evening. I think the women will be interested to know that although Hillary is not even in this race any longer that CNN mocked and insulted her showing parts of her primary season, etc. So, I ask the women out there, can you really vote for a man like Obama who sexually bashed HIllary Clinton every time he had the opportunity? And, are the women going to remember to be enraged at the press and at Obama? The show aired at 7:30 my time, called Headline News, and I live in NE PA. They provided me with such assistance tonight as I canvas every possible woman voter I can to vote for John McCain! I thought CNN had the only impartial news on TV but how could I have thought when they still have a sexist pig like Anderson Cooper on their channel?