Sep 18, 2008 8:14pm

Another Biden Surrogate Rips Palin

ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: For the third time in ten days, Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden was introduced by a surrogate with harsh words for the Delware Senator’s Republican counterpart Sarah Palin.

"She says that she lives next door to Russia," Youngstown mayor Jay Williams said of the Alaska governor’s foreign policy experience. "I mean, I don’t think that that really counts. That would be the equivalent of me wanting to do your heart surgery because I live next door to a doctor."

Williams wasn’t done, either, making some cracks about Palin’s small-town home.

"I’ve never been to Wasilla, but I’m sure it’s a nice little town," he said. "In fact it’s so little we could invite them all to sit down in the Chevrolet Centre and probably still have room left over."

In fact, Williams might even like to trade his current mayor post for Palin’s former gig.

"I would love to be the mayor of Wasilla. I could probably do it from my home," he boasted.

On Monday in Flat Rock, Michigan, Barbara Theaker, a local Obama-Biden supporter, called Sarah Palin "a bucket of fluff". Last Tuesday in St. Louis, Missouri Rep. Russ Carnahan said of Palin, "There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick."

For the record, the Chevrolet Centre seats as many as 7,000. The population of Wasilla?, 7,028, per the city website.

User Comments

You are truly sad Democrat No More.
I’m sure the party is glad you’re no longer a member.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | September 18, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

At the time Palin became mayor of Wasilla, about 5,000 people were living there. So yes, there’s be room left in Chevrolet Centre.

Posted by: think | September 18, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

I can understand being against Palin, but this kind of venom I still don’t get. I really don’t get it…it’s definitely unattractive.
I’m a black guy who used to be very excioted about Obama, but he has turned me off the last few weeks with his venom against Palin. I actually feel sorry for her…that’s where his campaign has led me. It was the hacking of her email yesterday that finally turned me. This is just too much.
I don’t agree with McCain much, but I am definitely voting for him, and It’s because I’m kind of disgusted with Obama. I will probably be the only black person in Boston to vote for McCain, but I think if this woman can take the last few weeks, she can definitely take anything. She is a very strong woman.

Posted by: chudi | September 18, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

If Joe Biden’s surrogate wnats to keep using the Palin line, it would be patriotic for him to include the rest of the paragraph. This is the kind of thing us middle of the road Indie voters watch and make judgements from. What a lie of ommission.

Posted by: Kitty | September 18, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Liar…Target only accepts cash or credit cards.

Posted by: JSB | September 18, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Todd Palin is now refusing to cooperate in Troopergate. This investigation was started by a bi-partisan group w/more Republicans than Democrats on the panel. What are the Palin’s hiding?

Posted by: Paige | September 18, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

Stupid, petty, and assinine (spelling intended). Biden is more qualified to run for president than 0, using the logic of the Democrats. (This is actually true in any case). However Delaware is much smaller in size and population than Riverside County, CA. So using the logic of the Democrats Biden and O aren’t even qualified to run for mayor of Riverside. And actually that is a no-brainer for people who use their brains regularly. So why can’t the Democrats see their logic is childish. Because if they had any true logical abilities they wouldn’t be Democrats, is the correct answer.

Posted by: freemort | September 18, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

Under the guise of being of one race or party affliation, I can write trash about the other party. This is what many of the commentators are doing on the sites. So who really cares? What I can say is that I am a loyal supporter of one party, it doesn’t matter which one, but I will not demeam myself by claiming to be a man or woman, white or black, of one or the other party, IF I AM NOT, and then trying to trash the other side under this guise. If you are truly honest with integrity, you do not have to resort to such tactics. That’s why these people and the party they support are going down the tubes – through lying and dishonesty.

Posted by: Sareena Jones | September 18, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Yawn…

Posted by: Samantha | September 18, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Yawn…

Posted by: Samantha | September 18, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

Democrat No More – There is no such creature as a GOVERNMENT VOUCHER for diapers and clothes. Those people therefore paid with their own money for those items just like you and the rest of the people in line. Food stamps may only be spent on limited types of food items. They may not be used to purchase toilet paper, diapers, soap, clothes, or many other basic items that poor families need like the rest of us. To get food stamps one needs to be very low income and even then the maximum amount is only a few 100 dollars a month. More than likely that family was very careful to use every penny of their free food coupon because it was one of the very few times they were able to eat out. You should congratulate them on maximizing the value of what they were given just like an economist would advise them to do. Furthermore, how are your TAX dollars involved with Target giving a customer service coupon for food at the Target food counter?

Posted by: knowledge is not elitist | September 18, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

‘Dem no more’ – SPAM RACIST
“Ok here goes: welfare queen welfare queen welfare queen”
THIS IS WHY McCAIN IS LOSING.
NO HONOR.
NO INTEGRITY.
JUST LIES.
OBAMA IS A LEADER.
MCCAIN IS A LIAR.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Actually, for the record, when Palin was Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, there were fewer than 5,000 residents.
So if every last resident of the Wasilla Palin was Mayor of was in the Chevrolet Centre? There would be more than 2,000 seats left over.
Don’t give Palin credit for being Mayor of a town over 7,000 when she was only Mayor of a town of under 5,000. It might seem like a small difference, but when this is the record she’s running on, then by the percentages, that’s a roughly 35% difference in population.
Oh Palin, so incredibly under-qualified. Oh McCain, so obviously putting himself first and the country second. Oh Republicans, no choice but to fall in line?
You can still do the right thing for America: elect Obama-Biden.

Posted by: Jim Coors | September 18, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

McBush VP being from a small town
is not a problem … oh you can joke
about it but it means nothing..
Now when McBush VP starts Talking
About Iraq Being a task from God for the
United States.. Well she just entered
A New Ball Game…
All this with Killing Moose Is
funny but I just dont care
But over 4,500 Americans Dead in a
war that was launched over WMDs
that were not there is not funny
but all the McBush people do is
Cry about things like Pigs Lip Stick
Seeing Russia out your door…
The GOP Needs to get a show on
comedy Central The GOP is not
Fit to at this time to be a polical
party of any meaning … within
a few hours saying the Economy
is strong to we are in Desperate Times
Its not just McBush thats out of
whack its the GOP as a whole.
why have they let this joke go on?

Posted by: Anita Yova | September 18, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Funny how the dems keep forgetting that GOV Palin is a GOV of a State. That she controls 23,000 employees (about the entire population of youngstown). That if a war with Russia started being next door to Russia would mean Alaska would be attacked first and its citizens would be in the most danger from bombers and invasion. Also funny how the dems keep forgetting that Obama has no forgeign policy experience at all. He never had to work with Canada for a mjor pipeline. In fact he hurt relations with Canada due to his position on NAFTA and on ther oil sands. So keep it up. The more of these types of things you say the more the Americian people understand that the entire dem party is not ready to lead.

Posted by: unseen | September 18, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

PALIN IS A TYPICAL REPUBLICAN CROOK.
RIGHT OFF THE SHELF, INCLUDES ETHICS INVESTIGATION, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, CRONYISM, INCOMPETENCE PLUS MUCH MORE!!!

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

I sure can’t wait for Obama/Biden to change the tone of this election. I’m sure its coming any day now.

Posted by: w3bgrrl | September 18, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

The sleazy demeaning language about Gov. Palin is downright stupid. It says far more about the various surrogates for Sen. Obama than it does about Gov. Palin. Try making the case for your guy and why he should be elected rather than Sen. McCain. Sneering about Gov. Palin’s prior experience points out that Sen. Obama hasn’t got any executive experience at all (small leagues or big).

Posted by: Jill | September 18, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Ed from MA,
Palin’s family was threatened by a cop with ethical problems.
=============
Anyway, the population of Alaska is similar to that of Delaware, so someone introducing a Senator from Delaware might want to take that into account.

Posted by: enrique | September 18, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Thank you, Democrats, for reminding me how insignificant I am, being from a poor, small town in the middle of nowhere.
You write me off anyway because, after all, I’m only allowed to vote once. Your big city supporters, no doubt, can vote all they want if they know the right people.

Posted by: SuperMommy5 | September 18, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

PALIN IS A CROOK. SHE CAN’T EVEN HIDE BEHIND THE ‘POW’ EXCUSE.
Oh wait, I stand corrected.
PERJUROR OF WASILLA
CROOK.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

The Dem No More could have encountered victims of a recent disaster or hurricane. They are all over the country and not necessarily in known disaster areas. Yes, those vouchers cover diapers, food, clothing, medicine, and whatever. I have noticed people seething at these victims before not even considering that most of these people were just like Dem No More before the disaster struck.

Posted by: AB | September 18, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

If I were the mayor of Youngstown, Ohio with record unenployment, empty store fronts up and down the downtown area, high crime and low expectations. I don’t think I would be boasting about much. It does show the kind of leadership Obama would bring though.

Posted by: robtr | September 18, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

I have lived in Wasilla back in the late 90′s. Yes it is a small town with a Super Wal-Mart, about twice as many people living just out side of the Corp. limits than in it, but taken care of by Wasilla. Also do not forget she is still the Governor of the State, much better than a senator who has only been actually at work for about 150 days (the rest of his time was trying to become the most powerful person in the world) and nothing else really in his resume.
For the life of me, I can not see why people question her qualifications but think he is so great. Oh yea he can read a great speech, that must be what the presidency is about…NOT!

Posted by: Teleman | September 18, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

I’m a black guy who used to be very excioted about Obama, but he has turned me off the last few weeks with his venom against Palin. POSTED BY CHUDI
****************************************
Please fill us in. I listen to nearly every single one of Obama’s speaches and interviews and have not heard him even mention Palin.
Can you give us something specific. And the email hacker…if you are trying to blame that on the Obama campaign, then that is just plain paranoid.
John McCain has sold Sarah Palin to us as somebody who is tough like a pit bull that takes on the corruption of the good ole boys. But the real story seems to be that she is extremely weak and fragile and can’t take criticism or eeven questions. And for some reason these 2 Republicon politicians think that she is a victim and they should be treated with “deference”. Deference is how you treat the Pope or the QUeen. Who do they think they are?

Posted by: Truth Matters | September 18, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

I’m sure you could fit all the people Obama helped as a “community organizer” in a $100,000 gazebo.

Posted by: Jayne | September 18, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

These left wing dirt bags wouldn’t recognize class or competence if it jumped up and bit them in the backside. They’re scared to death and are reacting like cornered rattlesnakes. Just let them continue to vomit their vile garbage, no one that matters believe anything they say . . . they’re only preaching to their Kool Aid drinking buddies.

Posted by: rplat | September 18, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

If she can’t take the heat she better get out of the frying pan along with her supporters and as for democrat no more do you know the situation with this family if not shut the hell up

Posted by: Rose Szymanski | September 18, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Sneering about Gov. Palin’s prior experience points out that Sen. Obama hasn’t got any executive experience at all (small leagues or big).
Posted by: Jill |
******************************************* Hello, this article is about Sarah Palin. It has nothing to do with Senator Obama.

Posted by: Truth Matters | September 18, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

I like the fact that Palin is doing so well – and a measure of that is that so many people are yelling about her. The reason as a democrat that I like Palin doing so well is it pokes a big hole in the elitists balloon. What does it really take to be a good president? A level head is probably in the top 5 on that list. Palin seems to have that.
I love the idea that people like Wolfe Blitzer are all in a fuss about it. He and Charles Gibson think of themselves as the elite and they have done nothing for society.

Posted by: dydx | September 18, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

oh unseen, I’m so sick of the lies from this joke of a campaign.
The NAFTA issue with Canada was created against Senator Obama. It wasn’t Senator Obama that winked and nodded, but actually the Clintons. The canadians slyly let that slip out with not one more news cycle after the truth oozed out. A few in the Canadian government were trying to help Clinton…again, since Barack Obama is such a ‘different’ candidate. At the time, that ‘different’ candidate was winning.
Actually the dishonorable and lying republicans are not ready to lead. McCain has no ‘executive’ experience and Sarah Palin has NO experience…executive, foreign, or otherwise. She doesn’t have the intellect, the education, the knowledge to even be a Governor. So it appears, the platform she ran on was typical republican…lie to get there, but truly have no clue…they just want to be in office.
With the economy tanking, foreign countries turning against us…we need INTELLECT, EDUCATION, INTELLIGENCE, KNOWLEDGE, JUDGMENT, TEMPERMENT to run this country. The inexperienced republicans will continue to run this country into the ground.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | September 18, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

ed from mASS,
How is Barney working out? You know, Barney who swore up and down that freddie and fannie were just fine? You know, Barney who fought tooth and nail to prevent any oversight of freddie and fannie? Maybe you want to consult with Charlie from NY the next time you do your taxes? Maybe Barry and his staff will give you some of the millions they stole when Frank Raines was cooking the books.
ed from mASS the only liar here is you.

Posted by: oz2k8 | September 18, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Do the Dem/Lib posters think that by calling John McCain “McBush” “McSame” “McLame” is really going to convince any Independent that McCain is Bush?
Anyone who has read a paper or watched the news for the past 8 years knows that is a laugh. No other politician has continually crossed over to work with the other party on a multitude of issues over the years.
But please, keep it up. It reeks of desperation.

Posted by: Ken | September 18, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Hey Truth, this article is about the Obama campaign attacking Sarah Palin. The buck stops with Obama.

Posted by: Jayne | September 18, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

the democrat mayors are such failures, look at detroit, and murder capital USA chicago. in these cities the mafia, and the democrats, work hand in glove, to keep people poor, and enrich themselves.

Posted by: tw | September 18, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Governor Palin is the rubber-glue candidate. Whatever you say about her, it bouces off her and sticks to Obama. It was a brilliant choice, and Mr. Changechangechangychange is having a hard time. He no longer spouts that he is change you can believe in .. cuz ya can’t. Now he just needs your change, hence the slogan: Change we need.

Posted by: Kitty | September 18, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

These sad excuses for neoconservatives are doing backflips and turning themselves inside out trying to think of the new lie that will make America support that poor deluded ex-POW and his empty headed minx. She’s a zero and he’s no hero.
They can’t even come up with a decent candidate who can remember his last lie. Ask his wife to crack open a Bud and pour it down his dry throat; maybe he makes more sense when he gets drunk.

Posted by: kilobeast | September 18, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Kilobeast, you just keep telling yourself that. Is that when you make the most sense – when you are drunk? You might want to go crack open a can of brew yourself.

Posted by: Kitty | September 18, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Ed from MA, you pathetic little Nancy-Boy. Palin is twice the man you are, and McCain craps bigger’n you.
You and the rest of your racist, sissy little Democrat friends aren’t fit to launder his socks and her pantyhose. I can’t wait to listen to your howls and whining on November 5th, when your know-nothing, done-nothing Messiah gets sent back to the Senate to grovel in his bean soup.

Posted by: Jaibones | September 18, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Keep dreaming, Kitty. There’s an awful lot of “stuff” sticking to her already.
HIDING FROM THE PRESS.
HIDING FROM TROOPERGATE.
McCAIN MAY BE A POW, BUT PALIN IS MIA.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Right kitty, I hope you still think of her as a brilliant choice when you lose your home, lose your savings, lose your job. If you don’t ever have to worry about any of that, then consider yourself extremely fortunate.
Sarah Palin has no clue. And Americans putting her in office, only because she is a woman, will regret it when this country implodes due to all the lies and deceit.
Make sure you teach your children to lie just like they do…apparently its now become the american way.
Cheers.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | September 18, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

SARAH PALIN IS HIDING.
WHAT IS SHE AFRAID OF?
TROOPERGATE?
THE BUSH DOCTRINE?
LIPSTICK ON A BUSH.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

Funny how the dems keep forgetting that GOV Palin is a GOV of a State.
————
Well, the state is smaller in population than Indianapolis.
And the point is SHE uses her “small town mayor” experience as something that gives her credibility to lead the nation. As with ALL of her credentials, it’s an inflated assertion that deosn’t stand up to the slightest scrutiny.
What? Scrutiny? SEXIST!
I have nothing against Palin personally. But McCain lost all credibility shoveling his “country before party” crap when he chose her as his running mate. She is DANGEROUSLY unknowledgable about the issues this country will address in the next four years.

Posted by: Steven Segal | September 18, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

And Obama was the leader of what governmental body? What’s that you say? Nothing? I thought so. Wait a minute, the FAILED Chicago Annenberg Challenge that he worked on with that terrorist guy Ayers and bankrupted. Forgot that one. Oh, and Ed from MA; It must suck to be so filled with hate.

Posted by: John | September 18, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

tw, actually the republican trickle down economic policies keep people poor, not the democrats.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | September 18, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

“think,” I agree with you that these kind of comments are only making the case worse for the democrats and I also don’t like hearing them, but let’s not forget that the same kind of comments were thrown around about Hillary months ago. This stuff happens in politics, but please, don’t use your vote as a protest! Focus on policy. That’s what’s important.

Posted by: Rosalie | September 18, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

A family of 6 is eligible for appx $772 a month in most states. And yes, Target does accept EBT cards. I bet they didn’t look like they were hungry either. You can count on having much more of your hard earned income going to the so-called poor under the Robin Hood Obama administration.

Posted by: Suzy | September 18, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

See LA in Indiana? Americans only (hoping to put) Obama in office cuz he’s AA? And Ed from MA, she’s not MIA. If you can’t stand not being able to see her, go to a rally. You don’t get to make the rules. For peopel who don’t like her, you and others certainly want to see more of her. For the rest of us, we want to see her, too. Obama fatigue has set in. We are so tired of seeing him everywhere all over the place speaking in that smoker’s voice rambling on about whatever his handlers tell him based on the latest polling numbers.

Posted by: Kitty | September 18, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm

Can we please get a story regarding McCain’s new selection to head up his Minority Outreach program: George “Macaca” Allen?

Posted by: tooeasywaytooeasy | September 18, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

LA,
Get your facts straight. Obama economic advisor told Canda gov to disregard the attacks that Obama was making on NAFTA because he was lying to the voters to get their vote.
Gov Palin has 2 years experience running a state with a $11 billion dollar budget and 23,000 employees. How is not no experience. She pushed through a landmark reform law, raised taxes on the oil companies, neg a pipeline that will help all of americian pay for their heating bills and electric bills, she has worked with the dems and the rep in her government. McCain has been a Senaotr of 20 years, he commanded soldiers and had to make life and death decsions for not only his men but for himself. Obama was a community organizer that got a bunch of crappy apartments buildings built that were later condemed due tonot meeting building codes.
the gov has been run for the last 20 years by harvard/yale men. And we have $10 trillion in debt, 2 wars going on, a $500 billion neg balance, no energy policy, no border security. Maybe intelligence is in other places than Harvard or Yale because their track record of producing quaility leaders is dismal. The college of Eureka produced the only good president in the last 40 years.

Posted by: unseen | September 18, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Todd Palin has refused to answer a subpoena to testify in Troopergate.
WHAT GALL.
ALASKA IS STILL PART OF AMERICA, YOU SECESSIONIST MOOK!
Disrespect for the law is NOT an American Family Value.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Robin Hood Obama Administration. Love that. And he picked Joe “Robinette” Biden as his partner in crime.

Posted by: Kitty | September 18, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

One of the best comments I ever heard about democracy is very apparent in this years election. I wish I could remember the exact quote but it has been years since I’ve seen it but it went something like this;
Saying that democracy is the best from of government is like saying the Pacific Ocean holds more water than any tin cup I’ve ever seen.
Some poeple say that sometimes the people are stupid or lazy and they need a strong leader to see them through.
A democracy ensures that the people get what they deserve.

Posted by: lotl1987 | September 18, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

lol Robin Hood
We have more poor people and more people without health insurance. Has this now become the american way? Losing our middle class? Screw the little guy and oh yeah, its his fault because he doesn’t make $100-250K per year?
Lets keep the policies and keep the poor people poor. They don’t deserve it anyway, right? Eventually, they’ll all be in jail anyway.
Ignore the ugly statistics…the rich get richer, poor get poorer, and belittle the intelligent colored guy, because he’s…well, he’s colored. Those folks aren’t threatening him with bullets for nothing, right?!

Posted by: LA in Indiana | September 18, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

McBush! McPalin! McCain! I am a lib! I hate! I hate! I am consumed with hate! I’ve tried for decades to ram socialism down America’s throat, but you damn conservatives keep rejecting it! So I am enraged and full of hate. I hate Palin! I hate McBush! I hate McCain!
I AM BARACK OBAMA, AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE!

Posted by: mike1 | September 18, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

unseen, you get your facts straight….that information passed on was a lie. There were only a few articles that cleared that fiasco up, but of course that embarrassment was no longer in the news. We couldn’t call our canadian neighbors liars, right?!
Please…read more.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | September 18, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

LA in Indiana, have you been drinking again? There is no law against you being rich, too. All you have to do is think you can be rich, and you can be rich. If you think that’s going to make you happy, though, it’s not. You see, people who are always blaming someone else for their lot in life are rarely happy.

Posted by: Kitty | September 18, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

LA in Indiana, can you site any sources that clear that up? Didn’t think so. Maybe you should get another job instead of playing on the internet if your life is so bleak.

Posted by: Kitty | September 18, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

oh mike, give it a rest. Senator Obama is not a racist. You liars love repeating your lies, just to hear yourself lie. Sounds good to you, doesn’t it?! The new american way!
As a military veteran, I will vote for Senator Obama. John McCain is no patriot, but he’s a dishonest liar, and he picked another great liar to run with him. I’m sure DogSled Barbie will do a great job….kinda like heckuva job Brownie. Good choice McSame.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | September 18, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

I don’t drink to get drunk Kitty. And I am also very fortunate to be employed and own a home, and not in dire straits like some of my friends and neighbors.
And I don’t have a problem paying more in taxes, especially when I see all the homeless children.
I’m not one of your greedy americans.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | September 18, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

lol kitty, I see you’re just another ignorant republican. Poor you.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | September 18, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

LA in Indiana, as an American, I will vote for Senator John McCain. Please calm down. If indeed you are a military veteran, I am wondering if you are having flashbacks or something. Your rants seem a bit off kilter. Please go get yourself some help.

Posted by: Kitty | September 18, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm

I almost feel sorry for the dimwit Dems who are trying to make hay of Palin’s experience… The poor dears nominated a man who makes Palin look like a retired veteran by comparison, and their VP man has three plus decades experience at getting elected and being wrong about almost every major policy question in his time.
Sorry Dems. Next time, try nominating someone who not only has some experience, (as much as Palin, at least!), and just to be sure, pick someone who’s not a far-left radical buddy of Bill Ayers, J Wright, etc.
Screw the haters– elect Palin/McCain.

Posted by: zeppenwolf | September 18, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

This speakers comments would be even more poignant if Palin were actually the mayor of Wasilla, no?

Posted by: DaveS | September 18, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Do the people introduce them really count as surrogates? I don’t think these people have really connections to the campaign other than as prominent local supporters. Surrogate i take to mean someone more like, oh, Carly Fiorina, connected to the campaign and speaking (stupidly) for it.

Posted by: TRBoston | September 18, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

As a republican I am thrilled to speak to Democrats who are voting for Mccain. They cannot stand the ugliness of the party anymore. Its like the nazis = you cannot be Dem if you have a religion (except for Muslims, who they seem very deferential to), you cannot be pro life or pro woman (if she’s a republican). Prepare yourselves liberals – you’ve dragged the Democratic party too far and they are breaking off – as a hispanic single mother I can say there are many more like me out there.

Posted by: Maura | September 18, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

The Palin’s refuse to cooperate with the committee investigation that’s been hijacked by the Obama campaign. They are still willing to cooperate with the State Personnel Board. Get your facts straight before you embarrass yourself any further.
And as another Military Vet, I’m voting for McCain. Obama is a fraud who couldn’t lead water downstream.

Posted by: Sean | September 18, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

You can count on having much more of your hard earned income going to the so-called poor under the Robin Hood Obama administration.
Posted by: Suzy | Sep 18, 2008
*********************************************** The welfare benefits given to people even when you include the welfare cheats (like the corporations that charge the Government for services and goods never rendered or obscenely overpriced), still count for a small fraction of our taxes in comparison to the way our country is being robbed right now with this right wing agenda of redistributing the country’s wealth to the rich.

Posted by: Truth Matters | September 18, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

The snide, hateful and rude (not to mention vapid and empty of substance)comments by the Obama worshippers here show exactly what the democrat party is – a party of HATE. That is all they have, folk – no new ideas, nothing good for America – they just HATE – they HATE America, they HATE anyone who has a different opinion, and those people from small towns – they HATE then also. The common thread here is HATE. Well, you nutballs have hated Bush for the last 8 years, and if you think your hate is going to win in November, you are sadly mistaken.

Posted by: jdawg | September 18, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

La,
the people that “cleared” the facts up were Obama suporters. Nothing like having your team say the other was lying. Notice that after that little run in Obama stopped attacking Nafta. wonder why? Maybe he didn’t want to worsen relations anymore with our number one trading partner and number one supplier of oil?
Obama has lied and cheated every step of this campiagn. he lied about the sex ed for 5 year olds and the media let him get away with it. He is guilty of interfering with Foriegn policy (Logan act) in Iraq which at some times in our history is know as being a traitor and the media let’s him get away with it. He intentionally wanted to leave our soldiers in Iraq until after the election so he could get the glory. He has shut down free speech by having his brownshirts muzzel a chicago radio station that dared to bring on someone that had a different view. Not once but twice. He has stated he will require every child in America to be in a draft. Choice of army or civilian service for two years of indoctrination. he has covered up his trips to Pakistian with known drug users when Pakistain was the Herion capital of the world. And all this the media refuse to investigate. He was close personal friends with a known felon Rezko. He got his house by murky means with said Rezko and has never answered questions about it except in a closed door meeting with his hometown meeting.
Obama is a product of the dirtest democratic machine in the country Daley’s democratic party in chicago.

Posted by: unseen | September 18, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

This just focuses on the petty stuff.
Continuing the policies of the last 8 years won’t work. I want real change.
Throw the bums out.
Obama/Biden ’08

Posted by: cincyr | September 18, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Haha!
Keep up the teenage attacks and making yourself look even less serious then you are Democrats.
The fanatic, hippy-want-to-be left has ruined the democratic party. The only problem for the party is the serious democrats have not figured that out yet.
MoveOn crowd keep up the good work!

Posted by: HoosierCon | September 18, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.

Posted by: VA Mom | September 18, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Okay. Let me come clean. I’ve been off my meds for a while and I’m experiencing erectile dysfunction. The fact that I’m unable to please any woman, let alone Governor Palin, causes me to lash out at her and at others.
I’m sorry.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Obama has hid from much of the press virtually his whole campaign.
Obama’s ties with Fannie Mae and ACORN are a far bigger scandal than the cooked-up Troopergate tosh.

Posted by: JohnAAA | September 18, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

As much as the MSM is in the tank for Obama, sometimes they do McCain/Palin a favor with these posts when everyone trashes Palin and her experience.
It only makes them look smaller, and brings light to how thin Obama’s resume really is.
Sarah Palin has been turning a deaf ear to all of her critics, and keeps right on trucking. This woman has the resilliency that only a mother of five could have.

Posted by: Lee | September 18, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

The Dems need to keep this up about GOVERNOR PALIN!!! It sends voters to McCain/Palin IN DROVES. My God, she is the ONLY CANDIDATE WITH EXECUTIVE POWERS GOVERNING CITIZENS…signing checks, supervising troops, hiring, managing cruise industry, building, growing the state…GIVING BACK CHECKS TO THE PEOPLE OF ALASKA from oil companies. SHE IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR AND McCAIN CAN’T WAIT TO GET HER IN WASHINGTON, AND I CAN’T WAIT EITHER!
She is more representative of middle Americans than the other three, yet she has more experience to make executive decisions on a daily basis, different from a Senator’s perspective. The Dems are doing and saying anything to slander her, it won’t work.
THEY’RE IN….McCAIN/PALIN! Biden is just old Washington politics as usual and for the record….donated just $3,000 last year. Obama and Michelle only about 1%…vs. the McCain’s who have donated 44%.
TAX INCREASES WITH AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY WILL BE THE END OF THIS ECONOMY…AND HE IS PLAYING IT UP TO HIS ADVANTAGE, BUT IN A SOFT ECONOMY, AMERICANS WILL VOTE SECURITY………..McCAIN!!!!

Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

To Democrat no more…
If you are p…o..ed over the family at Target, you must be fuming over our tax dollars ( many, many, many more than $750) going to bail our the Wall Street Crowd….we’re talking billions.
Yes, there are people that take advantage of the welfare system, but many people honestly need help. In America people should not go hungry…even it means taking care of some cheats. And, yes, sometimes it seems that we, the middle class, are the only ones paying for it. The poor pay few or no taxes, and the rich shelter all their money.
But, no matter who wins the election, republican or democrat, would you really want to live anywhere else? God Bless America….even with our flaws.

Posted by: yybbbaa | September 18, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

I hate Sarah Palin for not killing her baby! I hate Sarah Palin’s 17yr old daughter for not killing HER baby! I will never PUNISH my 17yr old daughter with a baby! Because unlike “haters” like Sarah Palin; I am a compassionate, loving, caring, PROGRESSIVE lib!
I AM BARACK OBAMA AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE!

Posted by: mike1 | September 18, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

jdawg says “The common thread here is HATE. Well, you nutballs have hated Bush for the last 8 years, and if you think your hate is going to win in November, you are sadly mistaken.”
_______________________________________________
What a hateful post!

Posted by: Paige | September 18, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Some people aren’t happy unless they have someone to hate. Sound like Democrats have decided Sarah Palin is their target this time around. It says more about them than it says about her.

Posted by: Maggie | September 18, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

To all the silly people who display the hatred of class envy, I dare say look at the statistics of who pays the majority of taxes to the federal Government. Sorry to tell you, it isn’t the poor or the middle class. It is the people you despise so very much, the supposed rich people. The lower tax rates have produced more cash for the Treasury because the supposed rich people can invest more and hire more people.
That is until Obama uses the government to steal money and funnel to his lazy supporters who are afraid to work. He has never run a business or had any executive experience. He is a bad joke.
Oh by the way, Palin is running for VP and Obama being as smart as he supposedly is should realize this!

Posted by: Africanus | September 18, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

DEMOCRAT NO MORE: I hope that since you are so critical of a family that has to use government assistance, never never get’s caught up in a natural disaster, or lose a job, or get sick and get caught with no insurance. We’ll see if you have the means to see yourself out of such a difficult situation without the help of the government. People like you are probably the first in line to take whatever handouts you can get just because you feel you’re entitled to it.You aren’t no better.

Posted by: Julie | September 18, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

How come this dip Jay Williams can’t recognize that she is sitting Governor of Alaska? That’s like making fun of a Fortune 500 CEO because he or she used to run a small town business.

Posted by: bowhuntdude | September 18, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

OBAMA & PALIN RESUMES:
1980 – 1984
OBAMA: B.A. in political science with a specialization in international relations from Columbia University.
PALIN: Wasilla High School, captain of the state-champion basketball team. Miss Wasilla, runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant, also Miss Congeniality, although that is now disputed.
HIM: Ivy League degree.
HER: Tiara.
1985 – 1990
OBAMA: moved to Chicago; became a community organizer as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization on Chicago’s far South Side. During his three years as the DCP’s director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants’ rights organization.
Moved to Boston to attend Harvard Law School. Selected as an editor and then elected president of the Harvard Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review’s staff of 80 editors.
PALIN: Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, with a minor in political science from the University of Idaho. Brief stint as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations; left to join her husband in commercial fishing.
HIM: sterling legal education.
HER: sportscaster.
1991 – 1995
OBAMA: graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School; received contract and advance to write a book (“Dreams from my Father”) as well as a fellowship at the University of Chicago
Law School. Directed the Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of
400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain’s Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of “40 under Forty” powers to be. Appointed as a Lecturer in
constitutional law at the University of Chicago. Joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development. Active in several community organizations, usually as a board member.
PALIN: elected to Wasilla city council. Husband was a member of the Alasaka Independence Party which advocates “Alaska First”.
HIM: expert on our nation’s fundamental legal principles.
HER: husband plotted to leave the Union; thinks Pledge of Allegiance was written by our founding fathers, doesn’t know what a Vice President does.
1996 – 2000
OBAMA: promoted to Senior Lecturer in constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School. Elected to the Illinois Senate. Sponsored more than 800 bills. In 2000, lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.
PALIN: elected as mayor of Wasilla (population 5,470), defeating the incumbent by a total of 616 votes to 413. Town budget, $8 million (3 millionths of the Federal budget), approximately 100 employees. Reduced property taxes but increased sales taxes. Fired the Wasilla police chief, citing a failure to support her administration. (He then sued Palin on the grounds that he was fired because he supported the campaign of Palin’s opponent, but his suit was dismissed
when the judge ruled that Palin had the right under state law to fire city employees, even for political reasons.) Hired a DC lobbyist to bring $27 million in earmarks to the city. Wasilla had zero debt when she entered office but she left it with indebtedness of over $22 million, including $15 million-plus for construction of a hockey center which was built on a piece of property that the city didn’t even have clear title to, a matter that is still in litigation. Attempted to ban books from the city library.
HIM: sponsored 800 bills.
HER: swayed 616 voters.
2001 – 2004
OBAMA: re-elected in 2002 and became chairman of the Illinois Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee.
Publicly spoke out against the invasion of Iraq BEFORE the congressional authorization in 2002, and then again before the actual invasion in 2003.
Wrote and delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
November 2004: elected to the US Senate, receiving over 3.5 million votes, more than 70% of total.
PALIN: elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. Unsuccessful bid for lieutenant governor, coming in second in a five-way race in the Republican primary, receiving 19,000 votes. Appointed to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, served as chairman from 2003 to 2004 and also served as Ethics Supervisor. Resigned in protest over the “lack of ethics” of fellow Republican members. Exposed the state Republican Party’s chairman, Randy Ruedrich, for doing party work on public time and working closely with a company he was supposed to be regulating. Director of Ted Stevens’ 527 group.
HIM: demonstrated the wisdom to oppose the Iraq folly before it even began.
HER: hasn’t really though much about Iraq – despite the fact that 17 Alaskans have died there.
2005 to Present
OBAMA: Sworn in as the fifth-ever African-American U.S. senator. Worked with Republican Senator Lugar to author and implement a program to locate and dismantle stray Russian WMD’s. Designated by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid as the party’s point man on ethics. Worked with Russ Feingold to pass a major ethics/lobbying reform bill. Cosponsored, with John McCain, the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. Called for increased fuel efficiency standards (3 percent every year for 15 years). Assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Veterans’ Affairs, and Homeland Security. Chairman of the Senate’s subcommittee on European Affairs. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. Waged a tremendous battle to become the
Democratic presidential nominee. Currently manages 2,500 campaign employees and a budget of $40-$50 million/month.
PALIN: 2005: board member, Valley Hospital Association, which runs the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.
Became youngest and first female Governor of Alaska, taking office in December, 2006. Received 114,600 votes. The population of Alaska is 683,478 and more than 50% of the state budget comes from oil revenues, not taxes as in other states. Gross State Product: $44 billion (including the oil revenue). Ranking 45 of 50. Auctioned off the Governor’s jet on eBay. Took on fellow Republican Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings. Promoted oil and natural gas resource development in Alaska. Helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits. Formed a sub-cabinet group of advisers to address climate change but does not accept that it is man-made. Objected to listing polar bears as an endangered species because it might hurt oil
and gas development in the bears’ habitat. Was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. However, Alaska kept the federal money. Denied her daughter was pregnant before she confirmed it. Supported abstinence-only education. Currently under a bipartisan investigation for abuse of power for dismissing Alaska’s Public Safety Commissioner. Commander-in-Chief of the Alaska National Guard, but has played no role in national defense activities, even when they involve the Alaska National Guard. (The entire operation is under federal control, and the governor is not briefed on situations.)
Obtained her first passport in 2007 to perform visits to the Alaska National Guard in Kuwait and Germany. (Foreign experience so limited that a stopover in Ireland listed on her resume.)
HIM: impressive figure on the national stage who knows how Congress works and is engaged with foreign policy issues.
HER: small state governor for 21 months; “next to Russia”, but that is just 1 of the 190 countries in the world she has never been to.
CONCLUSION: the word “executive” is not some kind of magic force multiplier when placed in front of the word “experience”.

Posted by: ES | September 18, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

What they are trying to do to her is what the Dems did to Clarence Thomas.
THIS is why I’m Republican. I keep stats and the hate is almost ALL Democrats and the MSM.
Shameful chapter of American history.
I’ve never seen so many accusations that ALL turned out to be false. Unbeleivable.
She must be a very tough woman to put up with so much hate all in such a short period.
I didn’t even know this woman too much before and now I’m liking her more and more.
How do receive all those unfair attacks and just keep a smile on your face. Talk about grace.

Posted by: Tom | September 18, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Nice “cut and paste”, ES. You even remembered to keep the typos in.
Nice work.

Posted by: MZ | September 18, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

I would love for palin and Biden to have a second debate that only focuses on “Tazergate” let’s hear Biden tell us how important it is to keep this bad cop on the beat.

Posted by: Moondoggie | September 18, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Ed from Ma,
Let’s see what you folks in Massachusetts elect, to see if we should listen to a troll like you. First, you have the “swimmer” who committed vehicular manslaughter(at a minimum, probably should have been homicide), while whoring around and drinking like the neer-do-well he really is. You have Barney Frank who said “there is no problem” with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, when Senator McCain actually was trying to get some oversight and correct the egregious Enron like accounting and practices going on there. And, lest we forget, you have Kerry. An outright serial fabulist and liar, traitor of the first order (he violated the Logan act too), and serial liar and defamer about what was going on in Vietnam, when he wasn’t even around the fighting he was talking about, and only there a very short time. Then he parlayed questionable wounds and “enemy action” into medals he probably didn’t deserve and you idiots in the Bay State swallowed it whole. Yeah, y’all are real good judges of people.

Posted by: Webrider | September 18, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

Tom..talking about grace or talkin about an idiot…SARAH PALIN AND JOHN MCSAME ARE BOTH LYING CHEATIN SLIMY PIECES OF SH*T!!!JOHN MCSAME SOLD OUT HIS FELLOW POWS IN ‘NAM AND IS REVILED BY FELLOW VETERANS AS A TRAITOR…YUKON BARBIE BANKRUPTED A TOWN OF ONLY 5000 PEOPLE AND LEFT IT 120 MILLION IN DEBT…SHE CHARGED WOMEN FOR THE RAPE KITS THAT THE POLICE USED TO DETERMINE IF THEY WERE ASSAULTED IN ALASKA WHICH IS THE RAPE AND ASSAULT CAPITAL OF THE NATION..TOO BAD IF U GET PREGNANT BY RAPE IN ALASKA..U HAVE THE BABY AND PAY FOR YOUR RAPE TEST..ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO ACCORDING TO YOUR TWISTED MIND..A WOMAN THAT DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A PASSPORT UNTIL LAST YEAR…OH YEAH ..SHE’S HIGHLY QUALIFIED..THAT IS IF HER JOB IS F**CKING UP THE REST OF THE COUNTRY LIKE SHE DID WASELLA.

Posted by: kamandi | September 18, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Here’s a question for all of you dimwits:
How many former Governors have been nominated to be VP or have become VP’s?
Here’s a clue: more than one
So all of this useless squawking about Palin’s “inexperience” to become VP is a bunch of hooka smoke. She’s not the first Governor to run for VP, and certainly not the first to lack foreign policy experience. Most Governors don’t.

Posted by: smartsy | September 18, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

They grouse over Gov. Palin because they fear her.

Posted by: Captain America | September 18, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

kamandi…..take some of your horrible hate and go down and volutneer for community organization….maybe you can get some asbestos removed from a buildig too….try and channel that hate.
You are all so scared of a talented, qualified female Governor who truly energizes and leads with optomisim.
As for the liberal hate…seems Obama’s attack ads are 77% to McCain’s 56%….so much for a new kind of politics. He put out an ad today that apparently is the lowest ever and being talked about on CNN Headline News.
Obama never stays true to his word….not a man you can trust.
McCain is COUNTRY FIRST, not ego first, like a certain black candidate we know.

Posted by: Emma | September 18, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

McCain is the REAL LEADER and Obama is not. Obama is full of lies and most of his voters are idiots. How can anyone support a man who has no qualification, no history of accomplishment!!!!

Posted by: np | September 18, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

np….also no character witnesses. Where are the people from this hood’s past? Oh, that’s right….Ayers is hiding, Rezko in prison, Wright banished (although, I’m sure he is working on that book and was told DO NOT PEDDLE IT IN OCTOBER). Seriously, anyone besides Obama’s Indonesian half sister and wifey, Michelle?

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

MEMPHIS, TENN—The son of Democratic state representative Mike Kernell is reportedly a suspect in the hacking of the personal e-mail account of Alaska’s Gov. Sarah Palin, Republican vice presidential candidate

Posted by: Tim | September 19, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

CHUDI; Being a democrat no more, I’m sure you will be terribly missed. Don’t let the door hit you on the backside you might hurt yourself.
I have no respect for Sarah Palin. If Sarah palin and her husband cannot face up to the trooper-gate. there is something wrong, terribly wrong. They are hiding something, I do not want anyone running my country, when they cannot face the important hurdles head on.

Posted by: mary | September 19, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

“OBAMA IS A LEADER.”
He has never lead anything.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

“I have no respect for Sarah Palin. If Sarah palin and her husband cannot face up to the trooper-gate. there is something wrong, terribly wrong. ”
Partisan investigation.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

It comes down to whether or not you would feel comfortable with Ayers and Wright in cabinet level positions, because that is where this is heading.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Palin is still being scripted. Even in Hannity’s interview.-
1)”PALIN: Didn’t see them but I hear that they’re all over the place and I’m just hoping that they’re going spend a lot of money in our local communities and bolster the economy up there.
HANNITY: So you’re hoping that the economy will…
PALIN: Absolutely.
She knew the question before she answered.
2)HANNITY: Why do we need to win in Iraq? Just get right to the bottom line. Why is losing not an option?
PALIN: Losing is not — retreat is not an option. Retreat is defeat in Iraq. Al Qaeda, they’re acknowledging even, along with General Petraeus, that Iraq is the central front on the War on Terror and the violent Islamic extremists who hate America would love that stronghold to be built in Iraq.
They forgot General Petraeus, once stated the extremists are in Afganistan and no longer in Iraq. General Petraeus says the surge worked, but too many American soldiers, in the field speak out against the surge. Now the solderiers are not aloud to speak out against the war, without charges being pressed against them. When your sons and daughters come home ask them for all they have seen. Not just heard.
3)HANNITY: What countries today pose the most danger, in your view, to America?
PALIN: Any country that is going to house violent Islamic terrorists. We have to keep our eye, of course, on Iran. We’ve got to keep our eye on some of the ongoing activities in Russia, also. North Korea under the leadership of Kim Jong Il — certainly there is a lot of concern there.
They both ignore the trouble already, in Americans streets with ‘gangland terrorists’. Look at Alaska.
4)HANNITY: What do you view — and I know this came up in your interview with Charlie Gibson, as it relates to the Bush Doctrine — what do you view as the Bush Doctrine and what do you view as America’s role in the world? What is our role as a country, as it relates to national security?
PALIN: That’s a great question and being an optimist I see our role in the world as one of — being a force for good and one of being the leader of the world when it comes to the values that — it seems that just humankind embraces the values that encompass life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And that’s not just in America, that is in our world.
And America is in a position, because we care for so many people, to be able to lead and to be able to have a strong diplomacy and a strong military. Also at the same time to defend not only our freedoms but, to help these rising, smaller democratic countries that are just — you know, they’re putting themselves on the map right now, and they’re going to be looking to America as that leader. We being used as a force for good is how I see our country.
Why didn’t she give this statement to Mr. Gibson? Why did she have to wait, to be scripted?
HANNITY even askes about her version of ‘troopergate’ , she gives several versions. She invites an inspection into the contoversy, but now wants to postpone the investigation. What happenned to ‘Transparency’. I guess it doesn’t include her…

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am

Does Palin recall when the KKK and Nazis were Christian extermists? Or do they lobby her as well? She needs to understand other religious points of views before slandering them. Islamic and Christian extremists both blow thing up. Look at Bush. Which one is he?

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

If McCain can be state specific changes, execpt for the ‘ I’ll hire someone to investigate it’, comments. I thought America was hiring some to look into problems? Palin forgets Pro-choice includes Pro-Life. Each woman has the right to Pro-Freedom. But McCain hasn’t put that in her script yet.How much money does Wasila still owe the government? over 500,000 dollars? She left Wasila pretty quick before cleaning up the small town, and now she wants to leave Alaska because of it’s highest crime rate?

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am

Obama for Latrine Cleaner ’08 must have forgotten that McCain wants to cut costs for health care, for all health issues.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

Remember what John McCain said when Bush called for war and tax cuts he said, ‘it is immoral, immoral to take a nation to war and not have anybody pay for it. McCain has ‘special interest groups’, who hope to continue war for profit. I am a Republican, who does not agree with McCain now. I enjoy Free Thinking as our Liberal Fore-Fathers did.I guess Freedom made me a Liberal. People need to look these terms up before claiming to be Consevative and Liberal.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am

“She needs to understand other religious points of views before slandering them.”
What is there to understand about someone that would really enjoy hacking your head off. In fact, they would probably film it so that they could play it back later for their amusement.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

“She needs to understand other religious points of views before slandering them.”
What is there to understand about someone that would really enjoy hacking your head off. In fact, they would probably film it so that they could play it back later for their amusement.
I remember seeing pictures aof extremist christians soldiers forcing prisoners of war, doing dispicable things.And Nazis torturing Jews. And the KKK killings. But this may not be convenient for you now. I am christian , but I do not believe the Extremist christians. They lost the message.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

All religion has extremist. They are the ones who do not tend to their true beliefs.Islamist Extremist are not considered Islamist, just extremists. All people want to die for their freedoms. That includes Americans, Jews, Buddists, Islamists, etc. You become a racist by sterotyping religions.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am

Hey,Mack.
You forgot to mention that after they cut your head off the media calls it a “Demonstration”.What do you think they’d call it if I cut someones head off?Obama for Latrine Cleaner ’08
You must not remember the vietnam vets walking around with necklaces of ears and eyes. And the wall of Japanese heads around some american bases, used to cause Japanese soldiers not to enter the bases.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am

“I remember seeing pictures aof extremist christians soldiers forcing prisoners of war, doing dispicable things.And Nazis torturing Jews. And the KKK killings. But this may not be convenient for you now. I am christian , but I do not believe the Extremist christians. They lost the message.”
And who helped to end the Nazi’s reign of terror? The country that you people so easily disparage.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am

The attacks on Sarah Palin have led me to the point of saying that Dems/libs/moonbats are EVIL. Consider this – slanderous lies about Trig not being hers, lies about her invocation of God in church, innuendo that she sleeps with teenage boys, her email hacked, her daughter’s cell phone number published, lies about her pushing through a bridge to Wasilla, lies that she does not know the Bush doctrime (hint – there have been 4 – which one?), lies about improper billing of taxpayers. For anyone who wants to see the truth, it is plainly available. To attack her is to show your hate and nothing more. The dems cannot accept the fact that she is a good, decent, smart, hardworking woman with traditional core values.
Can anyone name a single person who is close to Obama, is normal, AND loves America?
Can anyone cite any accomplishment of significance to Obama’s credit?
Can anyone point out any occasion where Obama took and held a difficult and unpopular position on principle?
Can anyone explain why Obama is NOT mentioning his executuve experience with Public Allies and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge?
Can anyone feel hopeful about a man who would allow babies to die without care or dignity, and who would welcome the abortion of his own grandchildren?
Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: Jay Walters | September 19, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am

historyforgotten
Extremist Christians are no more christians than Budhists.
I agree. But they still call themselves christian. The religious title to extremists need to be dropped. They are just terrorists. 95% of our prisions have violent criminals who claim to be christian. I call the terrorist, not christians. We need to focus on protecting the US from with-in the US. Gangland terrorist have killed more people each year in America, than in other countries. Including Iraq. Peolpe believe we want to take land, from other countries through military force. That is why new militant groups continue to spring up against us. We have to take care of America first, before telling other countries how to deal with their problems.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Tom..talking about grace or talkin about an idiot…SARAH PALIN AND JOHN MCSAME ARE BOTH LYING CHEATIN SLIMY PIECES OF SH*T!!!JOHN MCSAME SOLD OUT HIS FELLOW POWS IN ‘NAM AND IS REVILED BY FELLOW VETERANS AS A TRAITOR…YUKON BARBIE BANKRUPTED A TOWN OF ONLY 5000 PEOPLE AND LEFT IT 120 MILLION IN DEBT…SHE CHARGED WOMEN FOR THE RAPE KITS THAT THE POLICE USED TO DETERMINE IF THEY WERE ASSAULTED IN ALASKA WHICH IS THE RAPE AND ASSAULT CAPITAL OF THE NATION..TOO BAD IF U GET PREGNANT BY RAPE IN ALASKA..U HAVE THE BABY AND PAY FOR YOUR RAPE TEST..ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO ACCORDING TO YOUR TWISTED MIND..A WOMAN THAT DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A PASSPORT UNTIL LAST YEAR…OH YEAH ..SHE’S HIGHLY QUALIFIED..THAT IS IF HER JOB IS F**CKING UP THE REST OF THE COUNTRY LIKE SHE DID WASELLA
See, this is the hate I’m talking about. You’ll never pursuade ANYONE with HATE. You may intimidate some with HATE, but not me.
Obama is for MURDERING babies that survive aborton. That’s all I need to know. The man is for killing a baby whose only crime was wanting to live.
Sorry, but that TRUMPS quite a bit.

Posted by: Tom | September 19, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Terrible things are done by all sides during war. How about animals that fly into buildings where civilians are just trying to go about their daily lives?
These weren’t trained soldiers, they were just like you and me going to work and trying to make a living. Some had to make a choice that day of whether to burn to death in the building or leap to their deaths.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Jay Walters, in the beginning of his campaign, Obama has stated his accomplishment of significance. He continues to stive forward, and wants the public to look back at his history. He even answers questions about possible coruptions he may be linked to. Palin is dodging her history.
As for your question,Can anyone name a single person who is close to Obama, is normal, AND loves America?
The Free Americans. Republicans are voting for Obama, because he speaks out, without a script, when confronted by tough questions. McCain/Palin beat around the Bush, and change the subject.McCain was a good candidate until he used Palin as a ‘Sex’ card without meeting her. The first time they talked together was when they asked her to run as VP.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

They have every right to criticize her for not having ANY foreign policy experience, and for anyone to say that she does have foreign policy experience is just plain lying. And being close to Russia does not count, it’s shocking that John and Cindy McCain actually said that Alaska being close to Russia made her qualified, and she herself mentioned that she could see Russia from Alaska, how is that relevant? She was a political and reckless pick, and people need to start acknowledging that.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

“Republicans are voting for Obama”
More Dems are crossing over to vote for McCain than Repubs crossing over to vote for Obama. The Independents will decide the election.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am

It must be premium points night for McCain bloggers/comments.

Posted by: clarity | September 19, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am

“They have every right to criticize her for not having ANY foreign policy experience,”
Barry has no foreign policy experience either and he’s running for President. That is why he chose Biden.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

And as for all this racist talk about Obama, that actually helps Obama because the majority of the country desperately want to get past the racism and hate in this country, slavery and the slaughter of Native Americans is an embarrassment to America.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

Obama for Latrine Cleaner ’08, how do you think the other countries feel about us having Nukes. Reagan and Bush senior sold weapons to Bin Laden and other extremists. We are actually scaring them, to use bigger weapons, so we can use ours. Remember the Cold War. We are still in it, we just give it new cooler code names.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

“And as for all this racist talk about Obama, that actually helps Obama because the majority of the country desperately want to get past the racism and hate in this country,”
Better have a talk with Pastor Wright then, because he is a racist.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

The Dems have so little substance, that all they can possibly do is heap derision on an unpstanding and noble woman.
Dems are all pathetic idiots.

Posted by: Jack P | September 19, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

Racism and sexism should not be used in politics, but yes, people are using it.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

Mack,
Actually he does, he was on the foreign relations committee, and he has knowledge of whats going on when it comes to foreign policy. He has proven himself in 20+ debates and has given interview after interview on the subjects. He was right about not going into Iraq and focusing more on the real terror which is Afghanistan. Palin on the other hand, just a few months ago said she hasn’t been focusing on Iraq because she was too focused on Alaska. And she can actually look someone straight in the eye and say “I’m ready”. It seems like a joke.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

Mack,
Yeah well guess what? He’s not running for president.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

Palin was commander and cheif of the Alaska National guard but what important decisions has she made as the commander and chief? Not even her own campaign can answer that question, because she hasn’t made any.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

McCAIN CAMPAIGN ATTEMPTS TO COVER UP PALIN’S TROOPERGATE SCANDAL!!!
Didn’t Palin learn the lessons of Watergate? The break-in to Democtatic Party headquarters by the NIXON Campaign to look at a few papers was really nothing…
It was the ensuing COVER-UP that killed Nixon! Since Palin is clearly a student and understudy of Nixon, she and McCain should both know that…
Everyone in America knows a cover-up when they see one now! The only thing that is “tainted” about that bi-partisan investigation in Alaska now is PALIN!!!
Something smells fishy (or Moosey) here………..
Republicans are cheats, LIARS and crooks!! Always have been, always will be!! The last honest Republican was Abraham Lincoln…

Posted by: Davis | September 19, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

Jack P doesn’t realize Reps are voting Obama too. As well as Dems voting McCain. We still have that Freedom. Our fore fathers were Liberal Democrates that spoke of a Republic. Republic stands for public decision. Conservative means to keep traditions the way they are. So in fact McCain speaks as a ‘Liberal Democrate’, for change. But still claims to be a Conservative. Weird, Huh? Look up the terms and history.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am

“Mack,
Yeah well guess what? He’s not running for president.”
Well Obama spent 20 years sitting there listening to a ranting racist. Why?

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

As for voting present 100 times, why don’t you mention the 4000+ bills he did vote on and the number of times McCain didn’t even show up to vote?

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

Palin is ‘Stonewalling’.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

historyforgotten – do you realize you did not answer a single question about Obama that I asked?

Posted by: Jay Walters | September 19, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am

Obama for Latrine Cleaner ’08,
What an ignorant Republican Redneck LIAR you are!!
You hurt your Moose with lipstick more than you help her fool! You need to drink another beer, smoke another joint, sniff some more Meth and go to bed,,,,

Posted by: Davis | September 19, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

“Actually he does, he was on the foreign relations committee, and he has knowledge of whats going on when it comes to foreign policy.”
If he felt so confident he wouldn’t have chosen Biden, he would have chosen someone like Bayh, which would have proven that he was serious about change.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

Well Obama spent 20 years sitting there listening to a ranting racist. Why?
Posted by: Mack | Sep 19, 2008 2:13:05 AM
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Mack you idiot. Do you think this kind of stuff is going to save your old senile fool of a candidate and his MILF sidekick with lipstick?
Like I said before, Republicans are cheats, LIARS and crooks!! Always have been, always will be!! The last honest Republican was Abraham Lincoln…
That includes Mack the white pointy hatted LIAR!!!

Posted by: Davis | September 19, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

Mack,
Look many of us are friends or might be close to people that have very different beliefs on certain controverial issues, I know I have many friends who I couldn’t possible agree with on many issues, but does that mean I’m going to disown them? No because there might be good in that person also, just like in the situation with Rev. Wright, he made a lot of hateful comments and Obama has said that he was not in the church at the time, and there are tapes of those hateful sermons and indeed Obama was not at church that day, but back to my point Rev. Wright does have goodness in him, he has done a lot for the poor community and helped out many people in need, and is strong in his Christian faith, after all he is a Reverend. The problem with him is that he is stuck in the past, the era of slavery, and that hate from those days still lies in him. Barack Obama no doubt still respects Rev Wright for his goodness but does not respect his views.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am

“McCAIN CAMPAIGN ATTEMPTS TO COVER UP PALIN’S TROOPERGATE SCANDAL!!!”
Hah! Just say no to subpoenas.They put those partisan hacks in their place. So much for his October surprise.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

Mack,
At least he chose someone who is at the least qualified to handle foreign affairs and it was also to reassure voters that he does have a foreign policy expert on the ticket, no doubt about that.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

Obama went to Germany, to rally support and funds to help our troops. Palins husband Todd, was the go between guy for the Alaskan military. Just ask the troops. They saw more Todd than Sarah. Unless some of the troops are lying. One of the OOPs, Palin has on her record. What Would Todd Do? Alaskas crime rate explains her views on politics. Charging rape victims for a rape kit help supply money for Alaska. Even today, Alaskian people are not in support of her newer ideas.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

Nixon says he was not a crook. who still believes that?

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

Palin’s husband Todd didn’t even go to college, and it’s funny to watch him shake hands with people as if he is somebody important, in my eyes he is a big nobody.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am

“Look many of us are friends or might be close to people that have very different beliefs on certain controverial issues”
And at some point you need to have the courage to speak up to them and tell them that what they are saying is wrong and hateful. You don’t sit there for 20 years unless you believe in what is being said or you’re there for political expedience.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

Mack,
Bayh was not change, that was Kaine, but Kaine had only 2 years of experience on him, which wouldn’t have helped the criticism Obama was already facing from his opponents, but no doubt Kaine was my choice for VP, and I hope he runs for president in the future.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am

Mack,
Those 20 years were not spent talking about Wrights views of America, they were spent worshiping God and Jesus Christ, and Wright was his mentor in that respect.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am

“Palin’s husband Todd didn’t even go to college, and it’s funny to watch him shake hands with people as if he is somebody important, in my eyes he is a big nobody. ”
Ouch. That sounds elitist. Not everyone is cut out for college. He was out there fishing for salmon so that you can have your daily dose of Omegas.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

The two original ‘Mavericks’, were two gambler brothers, who had a good poker ‘bluff’, on the tv show ‘Maverick’. McCain better watch what he is ‘bluffing’. America has called Palin on her ‘bluff’, of troopergate, and she still hasn’t shown her hand.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

Mack,
Since when is going to college being elitist? Going to college and getting a degree is a great accomplishment, which everyone should take advantage of in this great country.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am

Obama voted on 4,000 bills and if you don’t believe me look it up.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

“McCAIN CAMPAIGN ATTEMPTS TO COVER UP PALIN’S TROOPERGATE SCANDAL!!!”
Hah! Just say no to subpoenas.They put those partisan hacks in their place. So much for his October surprise.
Posted by: Mack | Sep 19, 2008 2:20:04 AM
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Just say no to subpoenas…
Just like Nixon (Watergate), Reagan (Contragate, etc.), Clinton (White Water, Pardon gate, Womanizer gate, I never had sex with that woman gate) and BUSH (Iraq, phony surge, 4700 dead and 37 thousand wounded American Soldiers… I can’t count that high, what a tragedy).
So if you liked these guys above, you will love the Palin-McSenile ticket!!
I am sure Palin will have us all “shaped up” into a evangelical POLICE STATE real quick!

Posted by: Davis | September 19, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

As for Palin being commander IN chief of Alaska National Guard, she has not made any important or significant decisions, or else McCain would be using it to boost her credentials, the facts are she has no foreign policy experience, so its time to admit it.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

Palin says shes middle class. But her and her husband earn over 300,000 dollars a year. Just a ‘tad’ over middle class. Palin thought the SNL skit was funny, even though she had the volume on mute. McCain thought it was ‘sexist’.Which one do you agree with. Palin for ‘funny’, or McCain on ‘sexist’?

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am

The fact that Palin is under investigation for abuse of power, is a whole other issue, if you have nothing to hide than testify! But of course she does and has refused to testify. We don’t need another Cheney.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

According to McCain, even mentioning Palin’s name in a negative way is being sexist. It’s just getting more and more ridiculous everyday.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

“Mack,
Since when is going to college being elitist? Going to college and getting a degree is a great accomplishment, which everyone should take advantage of in this great country.”
It’s not. You were belittling him.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

“The fact that Palin is under investigation for abuse of power, is a whole other issue, if you have nothing to hide than testify!”
It’s a partisan witch hunt. Bill and Hillary had a similar experience.

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am

Mack,
You were belittling Barack Obama, at least I speak the truth.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am

Mack,
That’s just not true, they are using it as an excuse, but the truth will come out. They won’t be able to get away from this, many Democrats, Republicans, and Independents want to know if she abused her power or not. This is relevant to the office she is seeking.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am

Cheney abused his power, and Palin is under investigation for abusing her power, we all need to know the truth. She needs to allow the investigation to go on and allow her husband to testify and she needs to testify herself. If this were Barack Obama or Joe Biden, everyone would be saying the same thing.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am

So trading with foriegn countries isn’t foriegn policy experience?
Obama for Latrine Cleaner ’08, Palin didn’t trade the oil, the companies with US government approval did the trading. Another Palin strecth. Please read the Government policies before guessing what ‘ANY’ politician says is true.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

Do you even know what your talking about? She is under investigation for abusing her power, but is trying to stall the investigation, she won’t allow her husband to testify and won’t testify herself, even after saying she would because she had nothing to hide, what happened? She was chosen for VP, and she knows people outside of Alaska won’t be as forgiving.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am

That is just not true, violating ethics laws, which Palin has done by abusing her power, has NOTHING to do with racism. And trying to emphasize Barack Obama’s middle name is implying that he is a muslim which he is not.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

She didn’t or else there would already have been a HUGE scandel about it,it’s time for Obama supporters to shut up about it and stop slandering her.
Then why did she welcome a bi-partisanship to investigate the issue?Which was lead by Republican majority 10 Reps and 4 Dems, before she asked McCain to stop the investigation?Just when the Republican leader said there was something definately wrong there. But Republicans can make mistakes too.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am

I am confident that this investigation won’t go away so easily or at all for that matter. This is a serious issue and the media will not let it go and we voters should not either. We just don’t need another Cheney.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

“That’s just not true, they are using it as an excuse, but the truth will come out.”
How do you know what’s true or not? Are you one of those 50 lawyers that they airdropped up there to dig up dirt?

Posted by: Mack | September 19, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Mack,
The truth can be either way. And it wasn’t 50 it was 10, but guess what this isn’t something new. Many politicians do this, just like McCain has done to Obama and Biden. Digging out information about your opponents isn’t something new.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am

Palin is trying to stop the investigation, this is causing suspicion among many people, its hard to argue that.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am

Mack, when the Republicans leaders of America,are also wanting an inspection into the case, something smells fishy.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

No one cares about the State Trooper (ex brother in law) who drive and drinks while on duty and tazors a 10 year old (Gov. Palin’s nephew). Plus, I don’t know if anyone noticed she’s a bit busy with only 40+ days to go before an election….not much time for she or Todd to be doing anything other than campaigning.
All the crap Obama has swept under the carpet and press doesn’t call him on any of it….liberal bias is sickening!
Palin rocks….she is me, her family is mine…she is not a stodgy old Washington insider, and she is the genuine article. Can’t wait to see the McCain/Palin ticket in the WH, and all 16 of them will be more representitive of our American families…blended, adopted, special needs, three servicemen, BRING IT ON! McCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am

It’s an ethic violation, and it shows a lot about a person’s character, if she used her power to get someone fired, this should be a great concern not only to democrats but to republicans and independents as well. The investigation must go on, and I hope it will.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am

Did anyone see Hannity’s interview. He wanted her view, of the scandel, and she gave him three different views, then changed the subject. Gotcha.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am

Emma,
I think when you’re running for a high office such as vice president and you’re under investigation it doesn’t look too good for you. Just the word investigation following a candidate should be a concern. I understand the circumstances behind it but if you violate an ethics law, like abusing your power, it just doesn’t instill confidence in the American people that you will what is right. I value good ethics and I know many people that do, if Barack Obama abused his power, I couldn’t vote for him.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am

‘liberal bias is sickening’-Why does our fore-fathers liberal views sicken you. Are you an American?
Wikipedia-”Liberalism is a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal”.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am

My God, you Bots are laughable. This is small town family squabble, unethical Trooper and yet I STILL WANT TO HEAR FROM REV. WRIGHT AND HIS RELATIONSHIP TO OABMA….OBAMA IS ON TAPE SEVERAL TIMES SAYING “I NEVER HEARD”. All we need is one Trinity tape showing him and Michelle sitting through the sermon of hatred and he’s DONE. Even O’Reilly made him repeat it “you never heard”, then mentioned the tapes in the back of the church they sell.
MORE AMERICANS CARE ABOUT THE 20 YEAR ASSOCIATION WITH A RACIST, COUNTRY HATER, JEW HATER. Gov. Palin’s brother in law, who WAS NOT FIRED IS A NON ISSUE!

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

According to McCain supporters the only “fair and balanced” news channel is Fox. I think CNN does the best job reporting fairly.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am

Trooper still employed…Trooper probably still drinking and driving on duty…Trooper probably still tazoring young children….TROOPER NOT GOV. PALIN’S PROBLEM. Keep spinning tho, bots!

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am

Emma,
Reverend Wright is an old and forgotten issue, Obama had to deal with this during the primaries and he won anyways, Palin is new on the scene and is already under investigation, she is making the wrong choice trying to stop the investigation, because the media will cover it and her favorable ratings will continue to drop just like they have been.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

Well Obamas’ had decades to change it,ain’t my fault he hasn’t.And the media won’t let it go because they are in Obamas’ back pocket and will do anything to get him elected.
He has at the state and community level.Now he wants to step it up.
Now for McCain he had decades in the Senate to reform the White House. Why hasn’t he changed it? The American people are calling his ‘Maverick’ poker hand a bluff. Let’s see his cards. Palin folded with her hand.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am

Too bad that’s not ethical, many people value good ethics and if she did do what she is being accused of, than her favorable ratings will continue to drop and unfavorable will go up and McCain will lose this election and that’s a fact. Now she needs to allow the investigation to continue, she will face scrutiny either way.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am

Kathy, you keep telling yourself Rev. Wright is old news…I know dozens of church members in two churches in my town WHO WON’T VOTE OBAMA…..WRIGHT IS A DEAL BREAKER FOR THOSE OF US WHO WOULD WALK OUT ON SERMONS OF HATE TOWARDS ANY RACE, OUR COUNTRY AND JEWS..ALSO OUR POLITICAL LEADERS.
My personal favorite of Wright was when he simulated sex in the pulpit and referred to President Clinton “ridin us”. Vulgar, unacceptable…like Barack Hussein Obama as Prez.

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

Emma, we have just began to understand Palin’s tounge talking religion. Just look at the voodoo priest who laid hands on her. She speaks of the power she felt from the priest. His connection to Hatti voodoo is documented. But we have no problems with religion, just her morals. Troopergate is a test of her moral judgement.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

historyforgotten….very funny. Gov. Palin is like millions of Americans, similar faith….Obama’s Black Lib Theology…not so much.

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

Emma,
Not only is it an old forgotten issue, but is irrelevant, he was not at church when Rev. Wright made those hateful comments, and there are tapes of those sermons and it proves that Obama was not present that day. As for going to that church for 20 years, he went to worship God and Jesus Christ just like the thousands of other people did. And yes Obama was good friends with him, but many of us have friends we disagree with on many issues, I know I certainly do, that doesn’t mean were not going to be friends with them. This issue was blown up, but the majority of common sense Americans didn’t buy into the lies, that Obama has the same views as Wright, and I have confidence that he will prevail in this general election.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

If McCain has associated with terriorists and extremeists he wouldn’t be in the race…..unless he was black.

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

If McCain has associated with terriorists and extremeists he wouldn’t be in the race…..unless he was black.

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

Barack Obama is a man of faith and good values, and he is a devout christian, there is doubt in my mind about that, and no evidence that proves otherwise.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am

Kathy…good you “cling” to that confidence….because Wright was Obama’s mentor/”old uncle”, married him, baptised him….certainly close “father figure”. Obama KNOWS what Wright is all about and if you are going to run as a “unifier”…get your a– out of this church, like Oprah did, because she could see this would effect her financial empire with her white, female cult.

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am

I’m not slandering anyone, ethics violation is relevant to the office she is seeking, and it is most certainly not old, this investigation was just beginning until she put a stop to it, but the media won’t let it go, and they shouldn’t.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am

Kathy….Obama’s mother was an Atheist, both dad’s Muslim. In Muslim culture if your dad is so are you. He refers to “57 states”…knowing there are 57 Islamic states. He slips with George S. on ABC and says “my Muslim faith” two sundays ago, but press ignores all this as usual. Hopefully some Republican will splice all these filmed faux paus together for a great attack ad mid October.

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am

Emma,
Thousands of people went to that church to worship God and Jesus Christ, and just because someone doesn’t share the same views as you doesn’t mean you disown them, I’m sure Obama respects Wrights goodness because he has done a lot of good, such help many poor people in his community, but Obama does not respect his views and he has expressed that countless times, hes given interview after interview about it.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am

HEY REPUBLICANS!!!
Did you like like Nixon (Watergate), Reagan (Contra-gate, etc.), Clinton (White Water, Pardon gate, Womanizer gate, I never had sex with that woman gate) and BUSH (Iraq, phony surge, 4700 dead and 37 thousand wounded American Soldiers, the Economy ruined, major banks failing?? I can’t count that high), what a tragedy…
So if you liked these guys above, you will love the Palin-McSenile ticket!!
I am sure Palin will have us all “shaped up” into a Evangelical POLICE STATE real quick!
Please no, Not for my kids, Not for my family, Not for my country…
Country First!!!
Obama/Biden in 2008!!!

Posted by: Davis | September 19, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am

Emma,
Are you implying that he is a muslim? Obama is NOT a muslim, and you are aware that he was going to church for 20 years not a mosque, you said so yourself, how is it possible that he is a muslim? You don’t make any sense. And just because your parents are a certain religion doesn’t mean you have to be, I’ve never heard of that before. And by the way, he lived most of his life with his grandparents.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am

Then Kathy…..YOU DON’T STAY THERE 20 YEARS. You think this church gives awards to Louis Farrakhan for any good reason. He is a white hater anti semite who Hillary had to publicly force Obama to renounce in the primaries. This is a problem, and lucky for you alot of Americans have short memories, I’m not one of them.

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am

renounce Farrakhan’s endorsement of BO, I meant

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

Emma,
Barack Obama did not attend the church to hear Wrights hateful comments, he went their to worship God, Wright is a man stuck in the past, the era of racism and hate in this country, but he also preaches words of God and Jesus Christ, and has done good for the poor community.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am

Kathy…with Jews, if your mother is so are you….with Muslim’s if your father is, the Muslim community believes you are too. And that’s not even the point, tho I saw his school records in Indonesia and his religion was registered Islam.
Michelle has a radical thesis she wrote blaming whitey, and she probably picked the church, so I don’t even know if I blame Obama….BUT HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER IF HE WANTED TO RUN FOR PREZ. Same goes for so many other shady characters in his past I COULD NEVER VOTE FOR HIM.

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am

Ayers committed crimes when Obama was 8 years old, when they didn’t know eachother, and 30 years later, the time Obama spent with Ayers was to help with the education system in Illinois, nothing more, and that’s a fact. Just because you know someone doesn’t mean your all of a sudden like that person.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am

I am off, and no one on these boards ever changes anybody’s mind….we just argue our points and fight for our candidates…good night all.

Posted by: Emma | September 19, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am

Emma,
I can’t believe what you are saying. If your parents are a certain religion, you must follow that religion? That is absurd. Obama grew up with his mother and grandmother, who did not follow a particular religion. He only met his biological father once, and he lived with his step father in Indonesia for about 6 years, and than he was sent back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents for a better education, what your saying is just absurd.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am

Emma, both Palin and Obama are both Christians. Their pastors have had differnt views on what christianity is. Catholic pastors don’t agree with their paticular branch of Christianity. And Baptist and Methodist views differ. Extremist are those who wish to destroy anothers faith or race. Christians have also been known to be extremists, even today. The speaking in tounges, help with a meditive state, in which chanting brings on to a peaceful numb feeling. Pentecostal and Islam have this in common. I study History as well as Religion and how it has seperated the human race. People will always use God as a reason to express their hate for what is different. A terrorist is someone who uses terror to cause another to submit. The US in general uses this tactic to scare other countries into submission over policies. Terrorists don’t even have to fire a shot, they can just threaten harm.So Bush can be considered a terrorist, from spains point of view or any other country. We threaten even our own allies with sanctions, if the do not agree with us. At least understand these terms. Or look them up yourself, but by using them loosly you look like you may be a little uneducated, in these departments. You could be very intelligent in other areas. I won’t judge you.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am

If you go to a mosque for 20 years, and your not a muslim, than your an idiot for going, my point is no one does that.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am

Actually he talks about killing Americans, and that was the dumbest person anyone can ever say. Goodnight all.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am

PLALIN’S COVER-UP WILL NEVER WORK!!!
The American People will NOT BE FOOLED this time!!!
How can this even be happening? McCain brings this new person out and announces her as his VP candidate?
Right out of the gate one of the first things out of her mouth was a “PROVEN LIE” about the bridge to nowhere??
What the heck is going on here? I guess I was right in what I said before, Republicans are cheats, LIARS and crooks!! Always have been, always will be!! The last honest Republican was Abraham Lincoln…

Posted by: Davis | September 19, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am

Actually he talks about killing Americans, and that was the dumbest thing anyone can every say. Goodnight all.

Posted by: Kathy | September 19, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am

Actually Bin Ladan did not talk of Jesus except as a prophet like Mohamad.He was an ally of Reagan as Reagan sold him guns, but under a threat of Muslim extenction. The US Government, backs Israels Muslim extermination. Bin Laden fought to keep freedom for Muslims. Which turned him into an extremist. Read about the early ’80s dealing with Bin Laden. All sides were wrong. But all were also fighting for freedom. Even the Catholic Pope supported Hitler with money, until D-Day. Thats when the Pope stopped helping the Nazis. During the ‘Crusades’, each christian branch then also slaughtered each other under King Richard, as well as Jews and Muslims. Religion has just become an excuess for power.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 3:59 am 3:59 am

Major Republicans are using God’s name in vain. A major sin. Why then do people of faith vote them in based on their “values/family” argument? They say they are conservatives but they are doing non-conservative things.
If bush is a Christian, how then can he lie? Lying is a sin. Lying to go to war based on fradulent data. (i.e. Iraq-Nigeria nuclear materials argument).
Reagan was a Christian and he sold gas weapons to Saddam to wipe out Persians (murder is sin). Iran-Contra scandal too.
Newt Gringich is A Christian and he had an affair. (During the Clinton times, I believe too!)
John McCain committed adultery on his 1st wife who STUCK BY HIM WHILE HE WAS A POW. Cindy McCain interacting with a married man. A sin. Yet a lifestyle that one party says it does not support, but every four years this party talks about Family Values. If a man can not honor a vow to protect his marriage from infedility, what can you extrapolate further about his character?
If a man cannot honor his marriage “contract”, what will he honor with his contract with you? Only you can answers these questions. I will not answer them for you.
Palin is running for Vice President on a platform of “family values” and religious conservativism.
In college she wears a shirt talking about her breasts (A photo in her college dorm room), but she is supposed to be a Christian lady. Where is the modesty that should be associated with one’s religious demeanor?
In her speech in Dayton Gov. Sarah Palin announced that she and her husband are celebrating their 20th wedding anniversary, which means they were married on August 29, 1988.
On April 20, 1989 – less than eight months after they eloped – their first son, Track, was born. Premarital sex? Yet she is from the party of “Values”?
Palin’s child had premartial sex. A sin. A Christian mother (and father) is supposed to insure her children are taught the word of God. This is one of the highest responsibilites a mother (and father) have to God.
Of course she has stayed married for 20 years which is great. But to live a “liberal” lifestyle and then claim a conservative mantle later seems to be very common in this party and maybe convenient to grab votes from the religious folks. She chose a liberal lifestyle as a young adult, and later her daughter chose a liberal lifestyle.
It at least gives you a reason to pause about values/religion in the household.
Of course both parties have people who have had affairs, but as a religious voter how can one vote for a party based on the “Republicians are Christians and Democrats are not” argument. To take God’s name and to brandish it so carelessly is really not a correct way for anyone to do. Both parties have people who go to Church, not only Republicans. Pick any candidate even outside these two parties for whatever issues are important to you.
{Always examine your sources: Used to vote Republican-leaning independent, now an independent. Not decided yet, but leaning away from McCain/Republican Party.}

Posted by: Beblue | September 19, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am

Even McCains supporters are calling each other rednecks. Anybody listen to interviews? That richy lady..:), called those voting for McCain, distraught rednecks. I bet McCain could have strangled her. Obama said they were just distraught, and she added rednecks.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am

hmmm , funny stuff…well sort of funny anyway. i do love the hear the republicans squeal when they even THINK they MIGHT have to part with some of that hard earned/stolen money they have stashed back.hehe…
sorry, i digress somewhat , but i do have a legitimate point to make here.
what about this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7623771.stm
pretty damning when the party leader says the vp candidate isnt ready and wont even endorse his own party candidate for prez.
charlie hagel is voting for ron paul as a write-in maybe…or maybe bill clinton …but he apparently ISNT going to support either palin OR mccain…
so ,do tell… why do YOU the moronic republican voter support either of these losers ,when your own PARTY LEADER ,who knows them much better than anyone here ,says they are unfit for the job ,especially palin…
its evident from the bbc article that charlie hagel thinks palin is about goofy .
shes more than goofy and i really do appreciate mccain picking someone who is so clearly unqualified for the job
…its called “shooting yourself in the foot!”
face the music ,this week was the republican alamo ,they are all dead or dying and this election is going to go to the democrats via default/apathy.
GO OBAMA I AM READY TO SPEND SOME RICH PEOPLES MONEY!!!
bwahahhahaha!!!

Posted by: bah | September 19, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am

PUMA!!!
you stupid shctib…
hint…its an anagram
extra hint …its backwards
extra extra hint … PUMA!!
ROFL!!

Posted by: bah | September 19, 2008, 5:44 am 5:44 am

The real straight-talker republican, Chuck Hagel, said that palin is not qualified. This also says a ton about mccain’s decision making abilities. After Nov. mccain needs to pick out one of his 9 houses to retire in. Think America. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: pt | September 19, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am

Palin wants to stop justice doing its work and knowing that her secretive emails were sent through her yahoo.com account, she fabricated with McSame a nice lie again to say that her account was hacked, all that inevention to just try to stop justice to follow its normal course. No way, no How, no McCain and no Palin.

Posted by: BKMC | September 19, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

Why are all of Obama’s supporters so hateful. In the last month all we have heard is negative remarks from Obama and Biden. Apparently his message of hope has been replaced by hate. He should stop listening to the people that are still complaining about the 2000 election. Those of us who love America can take a few hits, dust ourselves off and go on with our lives. Get over it Johnny One Note.

Posted by: ubu2008 | September 19, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

palin may get impeached—–or the corrupt repubs may squash the investigation—–mcdummy and the queen of pork are becoming losers at a fast rate——-GO AMERICA

Posted by: rodney | September 19, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

the only reason obama is not winning by a landslide—IS THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN—most white people above the age of 40 to 80 are racist and care more about color than they do about our country–and believe me i talk to many people on a daily basis—most older white men are the worst—women are not quite as bad.you can disagree with this all you want but it is the truth.and wew may pay a price for this as mccain is a terrible candidate —cannot remember from one day to another–irresponsible to a fault picking palin as vp candidate.

Posted by: rodney | September 19, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

TW – If you’re interested and want to know about the Mafia, just ask good old boy McCain, he can tell you all about his buddy Joseph Bonano.
Rodney – totally agree with your post. Does anyone know how many African-Americans are working for McCain’s campaign. You never see anything but whites around him. What’s McCain do, hide them in the corner somewhere?
Ubu2008- You say Obama supporters are hateful. Maybe you should check out some other sites and see the “hateful” crap coming from the republican supporters; just listen to McCain talk if you want to hear hateful.

Posted by: Debbie, Columbia, SC | September 19, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Palin is the second hillary? perhaps, their demerits are enlarged in political eyes. compared to obama’s “mistakes”, these two women’s mistakes are just nothing.

Posted by: mary | September 19, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Paige: You are wrong. The democrats wanted her investigated because she fired the commissioner for not firing her brother-in-law. He was nothing but trouble tasing his own son, having a five day suspension and other matters. He doesn’t belong on the police department. Her sister had a very difficult time with him. And I believe Palin and her Husband should not involve themselves in this investigation. Obama should be investigated for his telling lies about what he did as a community organizer. He was on the southside streets of Chicago, did not have a desk and only did some paperwork which anyone can do. His job was no big deal talking to street thugs.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 19, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Ed: And the democrats are not? What have you been reading lately. Obama associated with crooks after graduating college. He was a wheeler dealer himself that’s how he learned to play dirty pool against the woman that was running for the senate. His friends, Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Farrakhan and Father P are the biggest crooks in Chicago and Obama speaks on the platform with sincere lies that the public are too dumb to notice. You don’t have to be a college graduate to know that he is fooling the public. Wake up.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 19, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Rodney: I don’t think it has to do with the color of his skin as much as people like you who would call him the Messiah looking for him to walk on the water. His choice of VP bad mouth Biden didn’t help him any. If you read the news lately, Bill Clinton had praises for both McCain and Palin. And I am sure Bill Clinton is smarter than you. The Clinton’s don’t like Obama they are just tolerating him for Hillary’s sake in case she runs for the senate again. I am willing to bet they both hope he loses the election.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 19, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Rodney: AMERICA IS GOING TO GO all the way for McCain and Palin leaving your majesty ObamaOsamaHussein in the dust to go back to his senate seat which is too good for him as it is. He should go back to the streets and join his friends on the southside of Chicago. Englewood would be fine for him because he hasn’t been there yet to preach to the gang banger’s.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 19, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Kathy: And Ayers should have spent his life in prison for what he did. Obama should not even associate with him if he loves this country like he says. I have doubts about that. He hated white people at an early age. If you haven’t read his BIO in the NYT you should send for a copy. Very interesting. Obama attended that racist church because he didn’t like America like his wife who just started to like America now. Give me a break.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 19, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Debbie: If you are so interested in American blacks, then join McCain’s campaign and investigate it. And African-American’s are people that come from Africa and become citizen’s here. American blacks born and raised here are of African decent. They are not African-American’s. There is controversy over the birth place of Obama. If he was born in Hawaii, the hospital has records of that and that can be investigated. But it was stated on the internet that he was born in Kenya and his mother took him later to Hawaii to be registered. If that’s true that can be investigated also.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 19, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

The Mayor of Youngstown will always be what he is unless he is defeated. He will never become a governor like Palin is and while Joe Biden is campaigning there he should keep his comments to himself.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 19, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

I don’t want to hear anything else about Palin’s mayorship, considering she hired a CITY MANAGER to actually run the city when she realized that “it’s not rocket science” but apparently she couldn’t do it. All she did, even as governor, was blow the budget, push her own agenda regardless of public opinion, appoint old high school friends to run commissions for high salaries, and avenged herself against anyone not on her side…
LIES, LIES, all LIES… Sarah Palin? Not for me or for America.
(Note: in a recent rally, she referred to the “Palin and McCain Administration”… freudian slip. Most definitely.)

Posted by: foreverbear | September 19, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

I am asking everyone to email a note to Senator Boxer who is the head of the Senate Ethics Committee to ask him to investigate Sen Obama breaking the Logan Act in his attempt to get Iraq to not withdrawl troops until he took office. This is a well known story with Iraqi saying he requested it. Here is the note I sent. you can put your name in place of mine at the bottom. Please make sure you include your name and state and county at the bottom. You can exclude pumapac if you desire. Please do a bcc or blind copy if you can to prowl@pumapac.org
The more people who do this the better chance we have of getting some action on this terrible act of treason and selfishness allowing people to maybe die in a war so he could be elected. Everyone is invited to come to blog.pumapac.org a place where the common person is trying to have his voice hear. A super friendly place. please pass this around to other blog sites that might attract people to join in this effort.
Senator@boxer.senate.gov
SUBJECT: Obama in violation of Logan Act!
9/19/08
PumaPac.org
Contact: Murphy@pumapac.org
Dear Member of the Senate Ethics Committee,
I am writing to request that you open an investigation into the actions of Senator Barack Obama with regard to his July visit to Iraq. News reports, as well as the statements from Senator Obama’s own campaign, confirm that Senator Obama attempted to negotiate a plan for troop withdrawals and a framework for the American presence in Iraq in such a way as to benefit him politically. This is clearly an unethical way for a member of the United States Senate to act, using his status and leverage as a Senator and prominent candidate to undermine the Administration and to benefit his own political career. It also appears to be a direct violation of the Logan Act.
From the Logan Act:
“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
I am a member of Puma PAC, People United Means Action (http://pumapac.org). We are the Voice of the Voters in the Democratic Party and we strongly oppose Senator Obama’s selection as our Party’s nominee. We believe he is an unethical politician, disloyal to the fundamental values of our democracy.
Thank you for your consideration and time.
Sincerely,
first initial and last name and county state
Puma PAC Democrat

Posted by: Democrat No More | September 19, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

who is a straight talker ?
Biden or Chuck Hagel ?
Biden said their presidential nominee, Obama is not qualified and inexperience.
Chuck says its Palin.
which more worse ?

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Posted by: WillNotBeFooledByObamaNATION | September 19, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Every time you attack her, the women just flock to her faster. Obama’s people are laying a trap for failure, just like Hilliary’s team did for her.

Posted by: hmn | September 19, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

Hey, Biden got as many votes as Wasila’s population.

Posted by: Dmitriy | September 19, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Where were demnomore, and pepitone when the Bush administration was outing a cia agent? Now that is treason. The cia stated before congress that she was a covert agent. The front company she worked for had to shut down and who knows how many foreign informants were killed. Oh yeah while your at it lets go after Reagan for making a deal with Iran to hold the hostages until after he became President. That little deal has been substantiated.

Posted by: Mike McKinnon | September 19, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

The reason many Americans will not vote for Obama is because they are embarrassed of him, his life, his unfair tactics and his beliefs. And they still don’t know all about him. His community organizer experience and lack of military experience is not adding to his resume. Here’s a quick list of other reasons he’s being questioned whether he should be our next President:
1. They don’t want a candidate that has been in a twenty year relationship with Reverend Wright and the Trinity United Church of Christ.
2. They don’t’ want a candidate that has a twenty year relationship with Father Pflaeger and refers to him as his compass in life
3. They don’t want a candidate that went to a church that supports Louis Farrakhan, an anti Semitic racist, that has led a rally of 20,000 Nation of Islam members to support Obama in Chicago
4. They don’t want to defend Black Liberation theology.
5. They don’t want a candidate that lies about his relationship with Tony Rezko, the Syrian Criminal that sold his property to Obama and supported his campaign.
6. They don’t want a candidate that could work with a domestic terrorist, William Ayers.
7. They don’t want a candidate that Hamas supports.
8. They don’t want a candidate that Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam support
9. They don’t want a candidate that has a wife that has just now realized she was proud of our country.
10. They don’t want a candidate that denies Florida and Michigan their voices
11. They don’t want a candidate that mentions 57 states in his speeches. 50 states in the USA and 57 states in the Nation of Islam (IOC website)
12. They don’t want a candidate that fights unfair and hyjacks Michigan delegate votes from his opponent.
13. They don’t want a candidate that is inexperienced, especially dealing with military issues.
14. They don’t want a candidate that considers it a loss to not to be able to attend his anti American, racist Church.
15. They don’t want a candidate that has a “non practicing” Muslim father, but avoids the entire discussion of his father.
16. They don’t’ want a candidate that won’t debate
17. They don’t’ want a candidate that misleads the youth with an ‘Obama girl and her behind in their face”
18. They don’t want a candidate that says he’s an African American and missed the MLK Remembrance Day and the Louisiana Black Caucus meeting
19. They don’t want a candidate that enjoys laughing at sexism.
20. They don’t want a candidate that switches his position on gun control, FISA, the war in Iraq and abortion issues.
21. They don’t want a candidate that showcases his daughters on TV shows.
22. They don’t’ want a candidate that has poor judgment..
23. They don’t’ want a candidate named; Barack Hussein Obama
24. He is embarrassing.
25. He scares them to death.

Posted by: Al from NJ | September 20, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am

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