Biden Touts Support for Troops as His Son Prepares for Iraq
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: With his eldest son Beau about to be deployed to Iraq, Sen. Joe Biden insisted he, rather than Sen. Barack Obama, address the National Guard Association Monday, delivering an emotional speech criticizing Sen. John McCain, who had spoken to the Guard the day before, for his foreign policy judgment, campaign tactics, and commitment to the troops.
“Now I know some of you wonder why the Republicans sent the first team, and the Democrats sent the second team,” Biden told the Guard’s annual conference in Baltimore. “Well, let me tell you why. There’s few things vice-presidents and vice-presidential nominees get to do, you can only call a card once. I told Barack, I’m coming. I’m coming.”
“I’m also here today as a father of a guardsman,” he continued. “My son Beau is proud to wear the uniform, and proud to answer the call to serve.”
At times fiery and angry, the animated Biden grew quieter and paused momentarily when describing the impact on families when a soldier’s life is lost.
“Eight-hundred and seventy members of the Guard and Reserve are among the fallen angels, among the fallen angels in this war,” he said as he recalled flying back from Baghdad on military planes with coffins aboard. “All I can think about when I fly back with those caskets – all of which come to my state, the state of Delaware, the Dover mortuary – all I can think about is the parents, husbands and wives, children waiting at the other end.”
The senator touted his work to provide the troops with $20 billion worth of newer, stronger military vehicles known as MRAPs, dubbing himself, “the bastard at the family picnic.”
“It wasn’t until I stood on the floor of the United States Senate and said I’m gonna be the bastard at the family picnic here, I’m gonna stand here – not a joke – I’m gonna stand here, I’m gonna stand here until we appropriate the money to build these vehicles.”
The Delaware lawmaker accused McCain of employing “the politics of division” in the Republican nominee’s address to the Guard Sunday, when he claimed that behind Obama’s positions lay the ambition to be president.
“We can question each other’s judgment, that’s what elections are all about, but we have to stop questioning each other’s motives and each other’s patriotism. You know, whether we’re Democrats, whether we’re Democrats or Republicans or Independents, we all share a profound desire to do right by America. We all, we all put country first…When John and I send our sons to war, they don’t wear a Republican flag or a Democratic flag. They wear the American flag.”
Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, also ripped McCain for an Iraq policy where the definition of "victory" means “you’re there for a lifetime.”
"What’s John’s definition, God love him? No Iranian influence. Did John happen to notice when we have 140,000 American forces in Iraq that the president of Iraq invites Ahmadinejad from Tehran to Baghdad and then embraces him and kisses him on both cheeks? Ladies and gentlemen, read history! So if you go by John’s definition of what constitutes success and victory, hang on, you’re there for a lifetime.”
Biden urged the focus not be on Iraq, but rather, “that superhighway of terror that exists between Afghanistan and Pakistan” where Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda are based.
“If God forbid that attack comes, it will come from the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan,” Biden warned. “It will not come from Baghdad."
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Hallelujah! The heart of Al Queada is in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Where we have let it flourish and grow, thank you very much Mr. Bush.
Posted by: Danny | September 22, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Dear concerned citizens of America and Mass Media of the U.S.A.
As a concerned registered independent voter, forensic psychiatrist, disabled American I made my decision to vote after taking into consideration following joint tickets attributes and characteristics.
1. Has the ticket shown adequate calmness, coolness, and connectedness’s under pressure to lead our nation [Presidential Temperament]?
2. Has the ticket shown sustained sound “Judgment and Caliber”?
3. Has the ticket shown adequate understanding of depth and degree to address the crucial challenges in their their purpose, policies, and positions [ Honesty, integrity and sincerity]?
4. Has the ticket sufficient “understanding and knowledge” of inside Washington workings [Experience]“?
5. Has the ticket reservoir resilience, wisdom, and vigor to address the present and future f our beloved “Great-grand Nation”?
6. Has the ticket enough joint foreign policy experience and exposure based on ” Values, Virtues, Vastness, and ” [American moral soul]“?
7. Has their campaign talk, slogans, ads, plans, and programs based on facts and are they free of fear, fiction, frivolous labels, unfair attacks, negativity, and impulsively? [No "imminent danger to national
security and safety"].
8. Has the ticket genuinely kept on message of country first and politics last and avoided copying [Message change"]?
9.Has the ticket message stayed away from Culture divide and war[ Disaster prevention ]?
10. Has the ticket resisted being surrounded, supported and surrogate’s by divisiveness, distortion’s, and destructive characters, [ Real patriotism VS shiftiness and shameless parrot-ism]?
11. Has the ticket thoughtful, real non-partisan, & non-impulsive plans to address our current economic crisis or political tactics and temperamental statements.
I have personally and professionally concluded that OBAMA-BIDEN ticket will lift and inspire our greatgrand nation back to its greatness within and restore our global standing with the use of maximum, firm
international diplomacy and minimal force if and when indicated {” Peace thru Strenght “}.
Yours sincerely,
COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret] MD.
Forensic psychiatrist, Disabled American Veteran and Iraq
Freedom team. Grass roots California leader per Senator McCain’s mailings.
PS: Protect U.S.A from McCain-palin’s reactive and knee-jerk reactions.
Posted by: COLCOL.A.M.Khajawall [Ret[ | September 22, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Obama B+ with the Vets.
McCain D with the Vets.
Does this tell you something?
Posted by: beck | September 22, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
What a great guy! I love Joe Biden.
Posted by: hang | September 22, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Biden, from the party of “WE’VE LOST THE WAR” has a lot of guts saying anything about the military. DEMS have hated the military since the mid 60s when they turned into hippie Commie traitors.
Posted by: Jack | September 22, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Jack: How can we lose a war that we lied about to begin with. I do not understand some of you. We lie and start a war then we are mad because we leave without winning it. Winning what?? What we did to that country is unthinkable….in the mean time we are still looking for the person behind 9/11…Hello!!!!!
Posted by: beck | September 22, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
To: Jack-”hippie commie traitors”
Posted by: B. Bear | September 22, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
we “WON” the war when Saddam was removed from power. everything since has been politics.
Posted by: Danny | September 22, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
So Biden’s son is volunteering? I thought that only high school dropouts go to the Military according to the Dems. He must have been a dropout then.
Posted by: Biden | September 22, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Jack: “Hippie Commie Traitors”
Remember Walter Reed Hospital, remember McCain’s vote against any new G.I benefits and Bush’s veto of same. These brave young and women fighting and dying for us are not “serfs” in your “factories of greed”.
Posted by: B.Bear | September 22, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Dear Col. Kajawall. We honor your service. I was fortunate to return from six years of service during the Vietnam era with little more than a bad haircut and a smoking problem and the realization that waving the flag and questioning someone’s patriotism, or being a POW does not make someone Presidential material. While we also honor McCain’s service, the last thing we need in the White House is John McCain and Sarah Bush-in-a-skirt Palin.
Posted by: algwriter | September 22, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
A very good speech. And meanwhile the dems are cleaning up the Bush mess from the mortgage meltdown, Russians are encroaching our territory and docking their ships in Venzuela. I just hope Palin can see Venezuela from her backyard as well!!!
Posted by: Guy From LA | September 22, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
When Palin talked of her son going to Iraq, the headline was “Is Palin exploiting her son’s service?” When Biden talks of his son’s service, he’s “supporting the troops.” I’d like to think that someday we’ll look back on this media bias and laugh.
Posted by: Just following along | September 22, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Did Joe explain to his son why he (Joe) received an “F” in ROTC in college?
Did Joe also explain that he (Joe) was healthy enough to play sports in school, but not healty enough for the service (Joe had student deferments and when those ran out he got himself classified 4F so he would have to go to Vietnam.)
Posted by: susie | September 22, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Biden is the man!!!
Obama/Biden 2008
Posted by: aC | September 22, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
So Joe’s son is off to war…. well being part of JAG in an office isn’t quite like being on the front line.
Posted by: Andie | September 22, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
John McCain is an avid reader and is known for rereading many works of his favorite authors. The favorite author of John McCain is Herman Wouk who has written The Winds of War, War and Remembrance, and the Caine Mutiny. Wouk served as an executive Naval officer aboard a minesweeper during War War II and used that experience in forming the character of Captain Queeg in the Caine Mutiny. Victor Henry the main character in Winds of War and War and Remembrance was a naval officer who became a confidant both to FDR and Harry Truman. FDR and Harry Truman went outside the normal channels of military command and relied on Victor Henry for straight talk advice on how to approach Russia and Germany and Japan prior and during World War II. John McCain sees himself as the Victor Henry character who was a realist in foreign policy and understood the nuances of war and foreign policy better than anyone. John McCain is a realist and more knowledgeable about foreign policy than either Joe Biden or Barack Obama due to his experiences and also just growing up as the son and grandson of Navy admirals. Barack Obama and Joe Biden have no military background between them and do not even have the background to know who to connect with to get straight back channel information. Barack Obama and Joe Biden lack the knowledge to even ask the right questions even if they could line up a current day Pug Henry commander to give them the straight scoop. It is totally inaccurate to argue that John McCain is somehow dogmatic in his approach and understanding of foreign affairs. Herman Wouk wove history into his novels. There is saying that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat history. John McCain knows history and has lived it and will use that knowledge to guide the United States through the tough challenges that we face in the war on terror, radical Islam and dealing with a resurgent Russia.
Posted by: bhcg89 | September 22, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
A JAG officer usually could almost work for the other side.
McCain/Palin’s kids are combat soldiers. They are not chicken hawks.
Not that this matters much when the stock market dies in October and the Great 21st Century Depression starts.
Posted by: Bill H | September 22, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
TO: COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret] MD.
Sir, bite me.
Sincerely
W Hensler
CPT, FA, USAR (ret)
“Peace through superior firepower”
Posted by: W H | September 22, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
COL Khajawall’s comments are short-sighted. Regardless of the legitimacy of the invasion we have a precedented obligation (see the Law of Land Warfare) to provide security for a nation that is unable to do so on its own. Neither candidate has more than little influence in that arena. Senators Obama and Biden are naive to think that their potential administration or the McCain Palin team will have significant influence to affect the outcome of our efforts in Iraq. Any solution will be an Arab solution. Yes…Arab and definitely not Persian. Iran is going to be the biggest thorn in the side of ANY U.S. administration, Israel and Western culture. The reality is that American efforts in Iraq will result in a strategic hub of diplomacy that will stabilize the Middle East for our children’s children and create a boon for countering the real future conflict and the new “cold war” against…you guessed it…Islamic fundamentalism. Some of the most dangerous ideology ironically comes from both our greatest ally and greatest enemy in the Middle East…Saudi Arabia and Iran respectively. What a dilemma and what ignorance to think that Senators Biden and Obama are going to be SO much better to counter the greatest threat that will face at least the next two generations.
Posted by: Ben Williams | September 22, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Joe Biden’s son is the Attorney General of the State of Delaware. He is also a Captain in the National Guard serving in the Judge Advocate’s General Office. He is a lawyer.
While we should all appreciate his service in the National Guard, it is highly unlikely he will see any combat while being deployed.
Posted by: Ben J | September 22, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
First, I’d like to say W H blow it out your A**. Losers like you fly boys don’t mean a hell of a lot. Dropping bombs and trashing 5 planes claiming POW for 2 years and you know 3 years sent in Hanoi Hilton don’t mean your POTUS material loser. My own brother was Nam, some of my friends served in Nam. I still want to see McPickles service record and his Health records. I bet alot do. And since my own son is in the Military, I much rather choose Obama/Biden than ( I need a geography, and economy lesson ) McPickle and (I can see Russia from my house, don’t yah know) Caribu Barbie any day. What a piece of work both of them.
Posted by: CusterwasSiouxed | September 22, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
W Hensler’s comment to a well thought out argument is “Sir, bite me.”
This more than anything shows what’s wrong with American politics — people think that “Bite me” some how is better than thoughtful reasoning. It sort of encapsulates the problems we’re seeing broadly in the campaign where certainly Palin relies heavily on snappy retorts that are the equivalent of “Bite me.” while others are trying to engage in reasoned arguments on very complex issues where the answers are rarely simple.
Posted by: MK | September 22, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
“Commie hippie traitors”??? When did Archie Bunker get here?
Posted by: foxisms | September 22, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Biden’s son is a lawyer in the JAG unit. He is not an enlisted man like Palin’s son or McCains son who enlisted, who has already done 2 tours in Iraq. McCains has another son about to go over to Iraq.
I think Palin and McCain are far more aware of what is going on in the military than Biden or Obama.
Posted by: Lm | September 22, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Mk- The Humane Society endorsed a President for the first time today telling McCain/Palin to “bite them” and put their efforts behind Obama/Biden.
Posted by: Paige | September 22, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
COLCOL.A.M.Khajawall [Ret[ I’ve seen this guy’s posts before. He leaves them on every web site. I think he’s with the Obama campaign. And a fake.
Posted by: Sean A | September 22, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Why are we at war in Iraq? Someone please tell me. I’d like to know why so I can explain to my sons what it was that put the finishing touch on the fall of the great American Empire.
Posted by: Jim Bob | September 22, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Biden’s a big baby. Ohh I feel so sorry for him and his lawyer son whose not even going into combat. McCain’s sons are serving in Iraq, Palin’s son is serving in Iraq. They just talk about how proud they are of their son’s and worry like every other American with sons and daughters, husbands and wives over there. What makes Biden so special?
Posted by: Sean A | September 22, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
welcome everyone to the class war that is now amercia.the first one mccain/obama that votes against this 700 billon bail out, hand out, wins the election.it is not about health care, abortion, palin,biden, it is the hand out.obama’s new motto: hand outs we don’t need. trash the change thing and the white house is yours.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
what we add to this clean bill is just a smoke screen to get it passed.this is here and now. not what if obama wins,what if mccain wins,hoodwinked. 50 million dollar bonus in 2006, guess who? the guy who is running the whole thing.hank paulson.none of this can be made up.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
This is from the Presidential ticket that also touts “…Iran…Cuba…these are small countries that do not pose a threat to the U.S.”
Posted by: Kevin | September 22, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
this is not monday nite network news,the sky is falling stuff.this is going on now. did you see the last news report on two of the three major news networks? the redesign of the penney.the networks make more money on a street fight obama/biden ,then giving us the bad news.one of the saddest days in history, april 27,1965. the day ed murrow died.oh i forgot we have our ed murrow, keith olbermann.wow
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
My husband and his brother both Marines, served their Country in Viet Nam, at the same time. One could have come home, but neither would go. My brother in law arrived a PFC and became a Sargeant in 8 months there were so many casualities in his battalion. Their Uncles were captured in the Bataan March and one received the Silver Star for his acts of heroism. Our son served in the Marines during Desert Storm and while they were all proud to serve their country, they rarely if ever have spoke about it. They didn’t ask for praise nor did they ride on what they did to gain anything in their lives. This is just a small example of what kind of men serve our country. Unlike John McCain they recognize there are many other ways to serve your country that are honorable and worthy of respect. Example, Barack Obama’s decision to serve his community rather than become a high priced lawyer.”Country First” doesn’t mean flash and flair.. it can mean quietly doing your job because you love your country.
Posted by: Sharonkathleen | September 22, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
again the first one to be against this 700 million bail out wins the election
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Paige, like, the human society endorsed, like, Obama! And like, told like, McCain to bite-me(who?). like, animal loving, like tree hugging, like, queer festival partiers like you liberal freaks think the human society is going to pull in more votes for Obama, like LOL. I love animals and care about the environment, but the queers votes you can, like, have. Like a HS endorsement, like matters like, LOL.
Posted by: Liberals are Idiots | September 22, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
this election has turned into smerks, attacks, and the word look.no do not answer the hard questions just say the word look then hammer home your message.people are making money to do this
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Harold, it’s the democrats against it already. They are trying to put pork in it, that should tell everybody something!
Posted by: Liberals are Idiots | September 22, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
And we all know that a lawyer is way less valuable than… oh… let’s say a pilot who’s !!!!FOURTH!!!! plane accident killed 134 sailors and who’s !!!FIFTH!!! plane accident got him captured. The viet cong may have been doing us a favor by keeping him on the ground until the end of the war. (I just wish they hadn’t abused him. I don’t wish that on anyone.)
As a mom of a soldier that will be going over to Iraq for the second tour this winter I hope to have leaders like Obama and Biden who don’t go looking for trouble but will fight if circumstances call for it. Our young men and women are stepping up to the plate because we asked them to but I can’t wait for the time when we can tell them “Stand down soldier, The war is over. You did good and we’re proud of you.”
Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure that line won’t be coming from the McCain/Palin ticket.
Posted by: itgranny | September 22, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Sharon, when has McCain ever boasted about serving or being a POW. You liberal nuts always want people to answer liberal nut reporters questions don’t you, hypocrites! Tell your family members who served, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY, GOD Bless’em.
Posted by: Liberals are Idiots | September 22, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
zimmerman just said it. obama wins taxes go up. well guess what. taxes are going way up either way.i can not believe i am going to say this, joe biden was right, obama/biden wins taxes go up. and they have to. because this bill will pass, everyone will say they were against it,mccain will be back in arizona saying i told you so and we will all be eatting hamberger helper.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Thank you Col. Khajawall MD (5:45:54) for your personal and professional opinion! It shows balance and reason. I hope others who are posting refer back to it.
Posted by: Leukevent | September 22, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
i am going down to join the army, at least i will have 3 hots and a cot.we are being fleeced 700 billon.we have become a welfare state.send me where the bullets are flying. all because not enough people did not call there congressman.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
itgranny, are you blaming McCain for the accident on his carrier? If so, you need to understand that that accident was not from his plane, but another pilot. If that were the case, McCain would be 135 dead! He ran through the fires to try and pull sailors to safety. Which means either you are un or misinformed or your a paid Obama blogger putting out propaganda lies just like liberal are good at.
Posted by: Liberals are Idiots | September 22, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
poor joe biden’s son?he is liven large, great medical,three meals a day.the only hard thing for him will be the plane ride.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
obama’s new maggage:no new taxes for the middle class, new taxes for all the classes. and the same thing goes for mccain.again first one obama/mccain to be against this bill, clean or with all the pork, wins nov 4. 700 billion is the shark.vote against bill now win election, vote for it and down you go. this election is over oct 15, the deadline for mailin votes.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
And what part of the military did Palin’s son go into! Army enlisted, says alot about comfortable living on the liberal ticket sides family!
Posted by: Liberals are Idiots | September 22, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Leukevent–You’ve been had,COLCOL.A.M.Khajawall [Ret is not a real person and these comments he leaves are all over the websites. I think these are sent by the Obama campaign.
Posted by: Sean A | September 22, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
if you don’t think some of the post here are not obama campaign workers then i got a 700 billon bill i would like you to pass.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
this is a bigger opening for mccain then a hundred palins.no obama teleprompter can fix that. the only thing that is upsetting is the amount of time that is going by.mccain take this 700 billon and ride it to the white house
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
the troops at home need more support right now. way more then joe biden’s rich son going on a long plane ride
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Posted by: WillNotBeFooledByObamaNATION | September 22, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
To Liberals are Idiots, I am not a liberal I am a moderate. I don’t engage in extreme behavior, I find it keeps me from keeping a clear head. John McCain’s story is no doubt that of a Patriot. However, we have heard that story over, and over and over and over again. All of the people that I mentioned to you saw their service as doing their job. They never discussed it. Earning the Silver Star, Captured in the Bataan March, or as in my husband’s case, watching your cousin be blown up from a land mine aren’t something they put on a resume.
Posted by: Sharonkathleen | September 22, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
obama’s leadership, ambiguous at its best.there is no wrong or right on leadership. you either have it or you don’t.country looking for a leader and we get chicago machine politics.i can not wait to see the polls next week.trending down.obama now has a 14 part plan.yea here comes mr fix it.people are going to vote for that?
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Hey Liberals Are Idiots (8:01pm), If you’re referring to the 700 billion dollar bailout of Wall Street I wouldn’t consider requiering an ‘Oversite Board’ (which incidently, “both Democrats and Republicans are calling for” if you even read the article)or limits on ‘executive compensation’as ‘pork’ and as a taxpayer it’s the least I would expect from Congress and our Administration, considering the dollar amount and the fact that we as US taxpayers are the ultimate guarantors!
Posted by: Leukevent | September 22, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
It slays me to read and listen to Republicans/conservatives/dullards that still believe the Iraq war was a justified action. The President lied to get our troops there and now with the blood of over 4,000 soldiers on his hands – people still wave the flag and believe the lie.
I’ll back Biden on this one because my son’s life was saved because he was in a MRAP.
Don’t get me wrong I have the ultimate respect for all of our Military who served on the front lines but I have no respect for greedy liars pushing their agenda at the sake of American lives.
Posted by: RepubMindWash | September 22, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
i hope all the obama campaign workers here on this board are taking notes.i tell mccain to be against 700 billon because he is someone that would do something like that. obama will just ride the fence, add some pork and tell everyone what they want to hear.it is too late to change that now.change? that is all we are going to have in our pockets.change.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
At what point to we walk away from an area full of ignorant fools that have been waring with each other for thousands of years and tend to our own dire issues? When do we stop squandering our precious resources (our soldiers) for a country (Iraq) that has literally billions in surplus dollars as we bail as fast as we can. Unfortunately, the tribes in Iraq and Iran were armed very well by, in part us, instead of the rocks and sticks they were using.
Posted by: Rick_VT | September 22, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
obama is breaking out the lock box, all you change people on the obama payroll look out.look how that went for gore.obama=welfare state.that is one thing obama is clear on.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
It’s funny that when you bring up McCain’s military service the liberals bash it, but when Obama says “I was going to enlist when I got out of high school in 1979 but their wasn’t anything going on, but I did sign up for Selective Service” Hello, 1979-1981 Iran-U.S. hostage crisis. We should have gone to war but Jimmy Carter was in a corner wetting himself. Obama will be Jimmy Carters second term.
BTW-There was no selective service in 1979.
Posted by: Sean A | September 22, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
take all of the reporters out of alaska and ship them over to every congressman office and see how they vote on 700 billon bail out.the news had joined the off message group.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Whoop . Biden’s son a frekin LAWYER on the battle fieldd to make sure Terrorist have rights …frag the bastard.
Posted by: Tator | September 22, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Whoop . Biden’s son a frekin LAWYER on the battle fieldd to make sure Terrorist have rights …frag the bastard.
Posted by: Tator | September 22, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Some of the Neocon comments are unbelievable. To them Democrats can die during battle but they’re still not patriotic enough. I hate you all.
Posted by: Iraq Vet | September 22, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
lord help us, we still have joy behar to tell us to vote for obama.joy behar the new edward murrow of our time.talk about a downward trend
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
we are telling our fighting men and women to put your life on the line then come home to the welfare state so you can go to the back of the line. 700 billon bail out is not for you.the only thing we are fighting now is ourselves
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
the country is on the ferge of something and all cnn’s larry king live can put on is joy behar?anderson copper should turn his papers in now.just shows that most people are going to roll over and let the 700 billon bail out pass.again joy behar takes on john mccain.and the only thing obama can say is, “it’s all free for me”
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
new books to release on nov 5th 101 ways to cook with welfare cheese.and put the margarine down,here is some welfare butter.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Iraq Vet–shouldn’t take the comments so personally. Everyone here is patriotic otherwise they wouldn’t give a rats behind what is happening in our country.
I think everyone’s point is that Biden is boo hooing about his son going to Iraq when he won’t even see battle, and the men and women serving on the front lines are the one’s risking their lives for our country and the Iraqi people.
Posted by: Kay | September 22, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
if obama would just call this election what it is i would vote for him. this election is about a classwar, not race,not palin, not biden.it is about the haves and have nots.anti this, anti that.
Posted by: harold l | September 22, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
McCain – war hero, decorated military career and long time honored statesman.
Obama – community organizer, freshman part-time senator.
Obama has no right or knowledge to discuss the military !!!
Posted by: AL JOHNS | September 22, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Biden-paid off by MBNA bank for almost a million. He helped create the current forclosure housing crisis when he pushed through the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA) of 2005. What about the thousands of people and families Biden hurt?
McCain/Palin – the only choice !!!!!
Posted by: Marlin 401 | September 22, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Ronald Reagan had no military experience.
Posted by: JJ | September 22, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
I think everyone’s point is that Biden is boo hooing about his son going to Iraq when he won’t even see battle, and the men and women serving on the front lines are the one’s risking their lives for our country and the Iraqi people.—–
KAY,
what about you Republicans talking about Democrats?
why aren’t you in Iraq now?
Go, take pride, and come back with something else than bull.
Maybe you will learn something about patriotism rather than throwing up poisoing lies.
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES, LACK OF PATRIOTISM, AND MANIPULATION.
DEMOCRATS FOR 2009
Posted by: Enough | September 22, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Biden’s son a lobyist for MBNA bank. Biden received numerous political contributions totaling tens-of-thousands over the years from MBNA bank. Obama received $126,000 from Fannie and Freddie.
Democrats are in bed with the lobyists!
Anybody but Obama !!!
Posted by: Zhor | September 22, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Ronald reagan was a governor, just like Gov. Palin.
Neither governor was a community organizer.
McCain/Palin/PUMA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Paul in VA | September 22, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Didn’t Biden vote for the Iraqi invasion? Hypocrite!
Posted by: martha S. | September 22, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Obama is a Senator just like John McCain.
Posted by: JJ | September 22, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
John McCain has really done everything he can to push me away from him. Picking Sarah Palin was the last straw. This conservative is voting for the better candidate. The liberal Senator from Illinois is the only choice I have left.
Posted by: Conservative for Obama | September 22, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Enough–My husband is a Captain in the Air Force. Don’t ever question my patriotism!
Posted by: Kay | September 22, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I sometimes think Biden feels he is on the wrong ticket.
He is trying to be the loyal VP but he just does not believe in Obama.
McCain he will trust with his life.
Obama? Not much.
Posted by: donbl | September 22, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Biden’s son is a lawyer, like dad. There will no combat for Beau, only a desk in the well protected Green Zone.
Gov. Palin’s son will be in combat, a much greater chance for injury or death.
Capt. Beau Biden, a Judge Advocate General in the Delaware National Guard and the state’s attorney general, is part of the 261st Signal Brigade that has been told to prepare for duty in Iraq in 2008.
Why Mr. Biden are you playing the martyr?
Gov. Palin has more character than you!
Posted by: Palin Power to you! | September 22, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Conservative for Obama–You cannot convince me that you are conservative. Liberals and conservatives are complete opposites. You are either for abortion or not, for gay marriage or not, for tax cuts or not. If you, like other conservatives, do not like McCain, then you will stay at home on Nov.4. Simple as that.
Posted by: Kay | September 22, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
I don’t vote on wedge issues like abortion. I’m a conservative that thinks the tax cuts were irresponsible and particularly during time of war. Do I agree with Obama and many issues…no. But the more I listen to him the more I like him. He reminds me of Reagan with his measured and pragmatic approach. I think he may be the right person for the job right now.
Posted by: Conservative for Obama | September 22, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Sean A | Sep 22, 2008 8:52PM ….. better check your history before you call Obama a liar. Read the following from Wikipedia………….
“The United States abandoned the draft in 1973 under President Richard Nixon, ended the Selective Service registration requirement in 1975 under President Gerald Ford, and then re-instated the Selective Service registration requirement in 1980 under President Jimmy Carter.
Today the Selective Service System remains as a contingency, should a military draft be re-introduced.[5]
Under current law, all male U.S. citizens are required to register with Selective Service within 30 days of their 18th birthday. Certain male aliens residing in the U.S., including permanent residents (holders of green cards), seasonal agricultural workers, refugees, parolees, asylees, and even illegal immigrants, are also required to register if they are between 18 and 26 years of age.[6] “Willful” failure or refusal to present oneself for registration is against the law.
Have you registered?
Posted by: DW | September 22, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Kay,
You don’t want people questioning your patriotism yet you would rather stay home on Nov 4 than go to the polls if you don’t like the Republican candidate. If it’s not your way then it must be wrong. That’s patriotism? Scary………..
Posted by: DW | September 22, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
DW–Obama said he signed up in 1979, selective service wasn’t re-instated until 1980.
Posted by: Sean A | September 22, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Obama is devoid of the ability to grasp concepts beyond street agitation. His empty rhetoric matches his empty suit, together they make a nice couple of nothings trying to convince you that hot air, lots of verbiage, vague phrasing delivered with preconditoned gestures makes him ready for the Oval office. Obama will lose handily because he can’t bring his teleprompter with him everywhere he goes to make him sound better and not fill the air with “uhs” and “uhms” and those other crutches he needs to cover up the dead air between his last word and his lack of core values, principles or beliefs. Marxism does that to young impressionable minds that fabricate their accomplishments and write books about themselves.
Posted by: WallyG | September 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Sean A-
Obama didn’t say exactly when he signed up…..once the law was reinstated in 1980 (which was just months after his 18th b’day) he would have been required to sign up-which he did.
Find a REAL issue to debate about.
Posted by: DW | September 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Conservative for Obama- You need to call yourself a Republican, Conservatives and Republicans are different. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are Conservatives. There are many Republicans, such as Chuck Hagel who are voting for Obama.
DW–I’ve voted since 1988, if I do not agree with either candidate, I’ll vote for 3rd party, as I did in 1992 or I’ll stay at home. It’s my right as an American, and not unpatriotic if I’m standing on my principles.
Posted by: Kay | September 22, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
DW-refer to his interview with George Stephanopoulos. He said when he graduated in 1979.
Posted by: Sean A | September 22, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Very patriotic and brave of Beau Biden to volunteer deployment in Iraq in the administrator staff to provide military counsel as JAG – Judge Advocate general.
He, after all is 39 years old; the son of Joe Biden and the duly elected Attorney General of Delaware.
In the same token, the son of Gov Sarah Palin, Track Palin of 19 years of age was deployed to serve for active duty role in Iraq last Sep 11 send off.
Track Palin is a member in U.S. Army’s 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division.
Posted by: Zee P Bee | September 22, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Joe Biden:
Wrong for opposing Reagan’s defense build up.
Wrong for opposing Operation Desert Storm.
Wrong for proposing the Division of Iraq.
Wrong for opposing the Surge.
Posted by: Hope is Not a Plan | September 23, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Kay…if in fact you are active duty military as I have my doubts; husband/wife, you should know better using that fact to be on this site pushing your candidate….please note all comments from military personnel are RETIREES…
Active duty military offer no public opinions when it comes to national electiions…they demonstrate their opinions in the voter’s booth………..
Posted by: Curious Indep | September 23, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm