By Arnab Datta

Sep 28, 2008 11:34am

Bracelet Wars*

It was meant as a sign of respect, but now conservatives are saying Sen. Barack Obama’s invocation of his "hero bracelet" bearing the name of a fallen soldier is being done against the family’s wishes, based on comments made months ago by the soldier’s father.

Based on comments the mother of the family gave to the Associated Press today, however, the notion that Obama is wearing the hero bracelet against the wishes of the family — or more specifically, the mother, who gave him the bracelet — is more complicated that it first seemed. She did ask Obama to stop mentioning her son on the stump, but she approved of the way Obama invoked her son in the debate.

Some background:

During Friday night’s presidential debate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., mentioned the moment when the mother of a fallen soldier gave him a hero bracelet bearing her son’s name, Matthew Stanley.

"I had a town hall meeting in Wolfeboro, New Hampshire, and a woman stood up and she said, ‘Senator McCain, I want you to do me the honor of wearing a bracelet with my son’s name on it.’" McCain recalled. "He was 22 years old and he was killed in combat outside of Baghdad, Matthew Stanley, before Christmas last year. This was last August, a year ago. And I said, ‘I will — I will wear his bracelet with honor.’…And then she said, ‘But, Senator McCain, I want you to do everything — promise me one thing, that you’ll do everything in your power to make sure that my son’s death was not in vain.’  That means that that mission succeeds, just like those young people who re-enlisted in Baghdad, just like the mother I met at the airport the other day whose son was killed. And they all say to me that we don’t want defeat."

Stammering a bit as he appeared to be seeking the name on the bracelet on his wrist, Sen. Obama responded saying, "I’ve got a bracelet, too, from Sergeant, uh, from the mother of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek, given to me in Green Bay. She asked me, ‘Can you please make sure another mother is not going through what I’m going through?’ No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they’re carrying out the missions of their commander in chief. And we honor all the service that they’ve provided. Our troops have performed brilliantly. The question is for the next president: ‘Are we making good judgments about how to keep America safe? Precisely because sending our military into battle is such an enormous step."

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In February, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported on the moment when Tracy Jopek gave Obama the bracelet, and Obama’s mentioning of Jopek after he won the Wisconsin primary.

"We’re here because of the mother I met in Green Bay, Wisconsin, who gave me this bracelet that I’m wearing," Obama said then. "Inscribed on it is the name of her son Ryan. Next to his name it says…’All gave some but he gave all.’ We are here because it is time to ask ourselves as a nation if we are serving Ryan and his compatriots and all our young brave men and women as well as they are serving us. They need us to end this war and bring them home and give them the care and the benefits that they deserve."

Ryan Jopek was 20, a member of the Wisconsin National Guard like his father. He deployed to Iraq in 2005, was killed there in 2006.

In February 2008, Ryan’s mother Tracy and his sister Jessica traveled to Green Bay and waited in the cold for 45 minutes to give Obama her son’s bracelet. A campaign staffer arranged it so they could meet him.

"I didn’t get to say what I wanted to say. I just cried," Tracy Jopek told the newspaper. "It wasn’t for anything but for him to know this is real, something he needed to know. . . I do believe (the war) needs to end, but I believe it needs to be done very carefully and very thoughtfully."

She said she was honored by Obama mentioning her son in his speech.

"I couldn’t believe it. It was such an honor, such an honor," she said. "To know that he does know his name. It means a lot."

**

But a month later, Ryan’s father Brian — who is no longer married to Tracy — told Wisconsin Public Radio that his ex-wife had misgivings about Obama wearing the bracelet and mentioning their son on the campaign trail. It seems as though just as Tracy Jopek supports Obama and wants to end the war, Brian Jopek has a different take on what should happen in Iraq and may be more inclined to support McCain.

(You can listen to Brian Jopek about 10 minutes into THIS CLIP.)

After pointing out that he and Tracy are not married anymore, Brian says that "from what I understood from email exchanges with Tracy….she wanted to put a name, she wanted Sen. Obama to know Ryan’s name…She wasn’t looking to turn it into a big media event…She just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself."

Brian Jopek went on to say that "because of some of the negative feedback she’s gotten on the Internet, you know Internet blogs, you know people accusing her of… or accusing Obama of trying to get votes doing it… and that sort of thing, she has turned down any subsequent interviews with the media because she just didn’t, she just didn’t want it to get turned into something that it wasn’t. She had told me that in an email that she had asked, actually asked Mr. Obama to not wear the bracelet anymore at any of his public appearances."

In an interview with the Associated Press today, Brian’s ex-wife confirmed today that she had asked the Obama campaign to ask the candidate to stop mentioning her son on the stump.

But — and here’s where it gets complicated — according to the AP story, Tracy Jopek also said she was "ecstatic" that Obama mentioned her son’s hero bracelet during Friday’s debate. That’s because he was responding to McCain citing a different griveing mother’s hero bracelet as a way to back his political views of the war in Iraq and citing the bracelet she’d given Obama was a good and appropriate way to remind people there are different views on this issue.

"His response in the debate was exactly that, a response, after John McCain put it out there first,” she said. “I think it was an appropriate response — he was just saying there’s another side to the story, there’s two different viewpoints.”

– jpt

* This post was updated with the AP report on Tracy Jopek.

User Comments

Is this the best Guliani and Rove could come up with while McCain is in a 90 degree nosedive?
I told my friends that as the inevitable approaches, we will all become witnesses to Republicans creating one of the most unbelievable circus acts on earth via the guise of politics. The Show has officially begun.
Obama/Biden – It’s a lock for sure.

Posted by: Nat Turner | September 28, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

This is a stupid issue. McCain prostitutes a victim of his failed vision with the hope that Obama didn’t have a bracelet but now they want to make an issue of the fact that he did and does care.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | September 28, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Wow! McCain used a fallen soldier as a political gimmick?
How shameful.

Posted by: JR | September 28, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Let’s not blow everything out of proportion until all the facts are known. It may be that the lady conveyed her wishes to a campaign aide who failed to get the information to the Senator in a timely manner.
His so-called offense may be nothing more than that. Don’t crucify him for it.

Posted by: George | September 28, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

What a non-issue. the point is that the mother wants the war to end in an honorable way, That is what Barrack has said he wants to do. McCain is just interested in repeating his same old silly stories to win the election. Barrack was just saying that he also has support of many in th emilitary and their families. Neither side should be politicizing this. Mccain brought it up and then tries to say Barrack is insensitive – what a lying hypocrite JSM is

Posted by: Chipo1965 | September 28, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Here we go again, another “gotcha” moment to discredit anything Obama said and paint him a negative light while boosting McCain. How ironinc that it is the exhusband who is making this claim. Does anyone bother to find out if he is supporting McCain. This story was back in February and someone dugged this out; why not check with the mother who gave Obama the bracelet in the first place. Get over this BS McCain did not perform as well as he should have, being the experienced one on foreign policy Obama went toe to toe with him on issues after issues. Give Obama credit when credit is due and stop reporting gossip to keep your guy in the news and discredit Obama in the process. REPORT NEWS THAT WILL HELP FIX THIS DISASTER CALLED THE ECONOMY BECAUSE MY LIFE SAVINGS IS AT STAKE.

Posted by: Flojo | September 28, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Story:
mcCain supporter Bryan Jopek says… CONTRADICTING what his ex-wife Tracy Jopek, who “waited in the cold for 45 minutes to give Obama her son’s bracelet” said to newspapers.
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If Ms. Japek has changed her mind because of “negative feedback she’s gotten on the Internet, you know Internet blogs” then this a story of a second tragedy.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | September 28, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

so if one direct family member is for it, and once against, Obama should shut his mouth about it and honor the soilder
privately.
Obama would NEVER do that

Posted by: trettione | September 28, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Clinton is on TV now. He is praising Mccain more than Obama.
Clinton I love you. He is a walking ad for McCain. I love Bill Clinton

Posted by: Yellow Journalism | September 28, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

I can’t believe our fake Obama. He tried to show that the bracelet means peace, but in the debate he said he will send them to Afghanistan and Pakistan and possibly even Iran. Obama is a highly skilled politician, who uses other people’s vulnerabilities for his gain.

Posted by: young_voter | September 28, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

The conservatives just want to complain. Who gaves a rat’s behind what they say anymore.

Posted by: The Unshrub | September 28, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Concerned:
Did you actually read Tapper’s story? The facts are not all in…
But don’t let that stop you from jumping to your preconceived conclusions…

Posted by: repsac3 | September 28, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

The conservatives just want to complain. Who gaves a rat’s behind what they say anymore.
_________________________________________
Obamabots lie. They fill the media with LIES.

Posted by: Yellow Journalism | September 28, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Who shook up the rat’s nest? The Republicans are scurrying around again, hissing and making a lot of noise, but the truth of the matter is, THIS IS NOTHING.
It won’t change the inevitable. This isn’t the silver bullet to slay the Superior thoroughbred running against a donkey. You’re gonna need more ouiji boards than that.
Sunday morning humor…Classic
Obama/Biden – It’s a lock

Posted by: Nat Turner | September 28, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

The story is in repsac.

Posted by: Yellow Journalism | September 28, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Yes, Jake, keep on it let us know what you find out.

Posted by: Emm | September 28, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Per Karl Rove guidelines, McCain is NOT patriotic and does NOT love his country. He was not wearing a flag pin.

Posted by: Paige | September 28, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

since the flag pin issue is now defunct,
I see they have and need a new “major” issue.

Posted by: Gus | September 28, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

I am not a supporter of Obama but I think that Obama wearing that bracelet or McCain wearing the bracelet he got was in good faith. Anyone who make comments against it has no respect for the mother’s of those fallen soldier’s. And Obama mentioning it in his campaign was due to respect the same way McCain would do. What is wrong with the people today. In my time we wouldn’t care less who wore what. That’s why this country can never unite. The people of today are destroying it by their actions.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 28, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

OBAMA started wearing his bracelet after MCCAIN had well established the fact that he was wearing a soldiers bracelet. OBAMA couldn’t find 10 minutes let alone a day to spend with soldiers when he visited Germany. Sure he got his photo op but he completely missed the whole point of showing genuine concern and support for those serving. He has no connection or understanding of what it means to be a soldier. He then in a debate immediately jumps in and says “I too have a bracelet.” then proceeds to exploit the death of soldier to push his anti-Iraq agenda which come to find out now he did it against the wishes of the fallen hero’s mother. War is tragic and the results often times have deep and lasting impacts on the people affected. I feel for the mother of the fallen soldier and she is well within her right to feel the way she feels and to support who she supports. She believes OBAMA will prevent further soldiers dying and perhaps she’s right but at what costs. The death of thousands more innocent civilians here on our own soil. OBAMA revealed a huge character flaw and I think most Americans probably missed it.

Posted by: Yellow Journalism | September 28, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

On ABC’s This Week, John McCain said he was a “Teddy Roosevelt Republican” apparently without knowing what Roosevelt stood for. Take the inheritance tax or Death Tax as it is now called. McCain – Palin are against it while McCain is a Teddy Roosevlt type. Why is this McCain imagery odd?
Theordore Roosevelt helped create the inheritance tax aka “death tax”.
When Theodore Roosevelt demanded that Congress pass a steeply graduated inheritance tax in 1906, he was proposing the one bill that members of his own patrician class feared most. In attacking what they cherished – not just their money but also their sense of entitlement and superiority – he was challenging the class system, not the capitalist system, turning the upper-class world upside down. As far as these plutocrats were concerned, T.R. had betrayed his own class to the point of no return.
As John McCain seeks no inheritance tax, he are betraying the legacy of his “mentor”. For what reason? He is stupid and wants to get elected.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | September 28, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Obama will do anything for a vote.
He uses and abuses anything and most Americans, all for the sake of votes.
Obama is interested is himself, his image and getting a vote.

Posted by: seah | September 28, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

This is already the most absurd election in many decades. So it shouldn’t surprise us when the candidates and their supporters come up with equally absurd things to argue about.
All we hear from Obama AND McCain is how BAD the “other guy” is.
In the debate, NEITHER one would answer Jim Lehrer’s question about how we’re going to pay for the economic “bail-out”.
They were too busy bashing each other.

Posted by: Rhys | September 28, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Speaking on a Wisconsin Public Radio show a few months ago, Brian Jopek, father of Ryan Jopek who lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, said his wife was surprised that Obama was still wearing the bracelet even after the family told him to take it off but didn’t want to make a big deal of it because she supported his candidacy.

Posted by: Yellow Journalism | September 28, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Well, looks like the wingnuts are trying to manufacture a story. How much did they pay Mr. Jopek?

Posted by: David | September 28, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Now the Obama’s partner, ACORN, is not being funded by the bailout–he should just ask his rich Hollywood friends to help.
He won’t win without ACORN.
This was a huge win for McCain and the Republicans.
Not only does it stop taxpayers from funding the radical group but it puts a focus on Obama’s relationship with ACORN.

Posted by: sam | September 28, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Wait a minute. The divorced dad of the dead soldier (a McCain supporter) says that he believes that his ex-wife doesn’t want Obama to wear the bracelet anymore because he thinks she has had some bad things said about her on the Internet?
Proof you can believe in brought to you by the John McCain campaign.

Posted by: Yvonne | September 28, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Conservatives are now criticizing Obama for exploiting a fallen soldier whose mother has asked him to stop wearing the bracelet or mentioning her son’s name. I’m not sure what the reality is behind this story — I have a call into the Obama campaign and Tracy Jopek to find out more about this story, and will let you know what they say.
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Seems to me you might have gotten the facts BEFORE you typed up this little post. what a load. is this another attempt at getting an invite to the next Arizona BBQ?

Posted by: really?!? | September 28, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Paige. I beg to differ with you. Karl Rover made a statement like that. Are you smoking the wrong cigarette? Are you wearing a flag pin everyday? I don’t think so. Wearing a flag pin doesn’t make you patriotic. If it did how come every single American in this country is not wearing one. Obama is wearing one because he got reprimended as anti-american and he was in his younger days. Everyone knows that. Where have you been all this time.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 28, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Pro-McCain dad disagrees with pro-Obama mom.
Coming soon to Murdoch-Moonie media near you.
Until we hear this claim about not wearing the bracelet from the mom directly, it’s just another trumped up issue. (And if what dad says about her not wanting to be in the spotlight is true, I’m sorry to see that it’ll have to come to that…)
I wonder whether Dad contacted the Obama camp about not using his son’s name?

Posted by: repsac3 | September 28, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Obama could care less about the troops.
He didn’t even vote for additional body armor and protection.
Didn’t even make time to visit injured troops in Germany–but found the time to make a rediculous self-serving speech.
He wants to turn America into another wimpy country like France.

Posted by: sally | September 28, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Obama didn’t even remember the NAME of the soldier, he had to LOOKED AGAIN, real close to read the NAME.
WoW! That’s Dedication!

Posted by: Voter In America | September 28, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Gus: Even though I am a supporter of McCain this topic is absolutely silly. And that soldier’s father should stay quiet since he is no longer married to that soldier’s mother. She asked him to wear it and if you ask someone to wear your son’s bracelet then let it be at that. Obama was wearing it in good faith just like McCain would. It should be no big deal. And there should be no big deal over a flag pin whether you wear one or not. It doesn’t mean your not patriotic. What is the matter with people today. What is important is the issues that need to be taken care of in this country because we are in a crisis and people should be thinking about that.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 28, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Well like I said before Obama sounded like a 2 year old when he went me too! me got bracelet too, as he stumbled over the soldiers name. I dont know the real story as to whether the family wants him to use their son’s name or not, but Obama sounded infantile the way he did it in the debate.

Posted by: rachel | September 28, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

So McCain is trotting out divorced husbands to discredit citizens who don’t agree with him? So big of him.
If a husband can’t stay married to his wife then he has no right to speak on her behalf. Let Tracy speak out if there’s a problem. This Bryan guy has no credibility.

Posted by: FLRepublican | September 28, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Dear Conseritaves,
And this will solve this economic crisis and poor health care system because…

Posted by: Rant3000 | September 28, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

Mariann-You can “beg to differ” all you want but it does not change what Rove has said numerous times. You can take up your objections about flag pins and patriotism with him. Rove has said it repeatedly against Obama and now it does sound a bit silly against your candidate doesn’t it? That’s because it is silly.

Posted by: Paige | September 28, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

For her to say it was an honor that Obama mentioned her son’s name, FIRST, he would not have had McCain not told the story TRUTHFULLY about his bracelet. It was Obama’s kindergarten moment, I’ve got a bracelet too, see!!! Second, how could a mother be honored when the man had to look down at the bracelet he was wearing on his arm to see the name of the soldier? HONESTLY people, intervention for the koolaid drinkers.
Obama is DANGEROUS for this country, beyond a other presidential candidate in history. Simply dangerous.
Today he’s campaigning, while Senator McCain is in Washington doing his job. In fact, Obama has been campaigning since he became a Senator.

Posted by: Brenda | September 28, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Marianne supports Obama’s disrespect

Posted by: Yellow Journalism | September 28, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

FL republican this man has as much right as the mom, maybe he doesnt want his son’s name out there. Why doesnt he have credibility you don’t even know why they got divorced. Maybe it was her fault.

Posted by: rachel | September 28, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Brenda: Where did you get that silly idea that Obama should always remember that soldier’s name. Obama is campaigning every day and doesn’t have the time for memories. I am not a supporter of him but your comment is silly. We all forget at times and you are no exception to the rule. Get a grip. And that soldier’s father because he is a supporter of McCain should stay quiet. He isn’t married to that soldier’s mother no more. Let’s get to the real issues of today not the trifles.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 28, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

From the conservative polling:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday—including the first day of post-debate polling—is unchanged. Barack Obama once again attracts 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. This six-point advantage matches Obama’s biggest lead yet and marks the first time he has held such a lead for two-days running.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | September 28, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

BraceletGate?! LOL!
How much more obvious can it be? McCain and his supporters have absolutely nothing positive to offer the American public.
President Barack Obama. You’ll learn to love it if you don’t already.

Posted by: jefferson | September 28, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

So this is half a story. The dad’s half. Since when do we publish half a story. Now people are getting riled and the mom hasn’t been directly heard from. Nor the campaign for that matter. Love how we all pass judgement without all the info.

Posted by: fez | September 28, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Mr. Tapper, if you haven’t verified the story FIRST, why are you reporting it now?? The McCain campaign has said that they were gonna do anything to keep this election off the issues, and by all accounts, they’re looking for something, anything, to take attention off the economy. Mostly though, I’m amazed that you’re reporting this without verifying it. That’s simply irresponsible.

Posted by: TruthSeekr | September 28, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

mccain the gambler is trying to change the story again. palin is an idiot, mccain has a gambling addiction and he is in the pocket of the lobbyist.

Posted by: william | September 28, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

I find it shocking that none of the Main Stream Media reported on the gaffe of the debate when Obama actually had to look down at his bracelet and read the soldiers name. If McCain had done that, every paper in the country would have been screaming that McCain forgot the name of the soldier he was supposed to be honoring. But when Obama does it, no one in the media bats an eye. It’s pathetic. And now to find that the family had actually asked him not to wear the bracelet, and Obama does it anyways?!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Typical Obama, pandering and doing and saying ANYTHING to score points. Meanwhile my President was in Washington doing his job and working for us…Obama/Biden in NC campaigning.
Maybe if Obama had ever SERVED this country he’d know he shouldn’t be using this young man’s bracelet to promote himself….sounds like the mother is confused and the father has his head on straight.
McCAIN/PALIN all the way…THEY UNDERSTAND SERVICE TO THIS COUNTRY….NOT EGO FIRST like BHO.

Posted by: DLM | September 28, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

I don’t believe this…what are we in High School now…jesus H Christ the economy is in a tailspin and we are devoting space to the question of who knew what. These boys died for our country let them both rest in peace and not be part of a campaign ploy to exploit their deaths. Shame on you Jake, for even referencing this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: i am so I can!!!! | September 28, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

JT-
Don’t you think it might have been appropriate to verify the mother had sent that email or where it went before reporting half a story? Isn’t this what is known as hearsay? An ex-husband who is a McCain supporter?
Sometimes being the first to report is not as important as reporting correctly. I think you do a good job. But given the emotional importance of this story’s subject matter, don’t you think it was more important that it be correct than first?

Posted by: cgibson | September 28, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

McCain was a POW so he’s the only one allowed to wear a bracelet, speak about veterans issues (even when he voted against us), insist Iraq had WMD and not be called out on it…blah, blah, blah. McCain is a joke and I say that as a veteran of the Iraq war and an Independent.

Posted by: Clint | September 28, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

Wayne, that’s no surprise. Since day one the media has been in bed with Obama. Very rarely do you see any negative press on him by the media, yet they’re more than willing to twist anything McCain/Palin do to make them look bad. It’s shameful, but true. Our only hope is that the polls reflect the lazy, misinformed masses who will either wise up or stay home on election day.

Posted by: Emm | September 28, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

For a potential Commander in Chief, it is more of a problem that Obama said this:
**’Can you please make sure another mother is not going through what I’m going through?’ ***
He can’t make sure of that. Does he really think he can?

Posted by: MayBee | September 28, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

McCain did not wear a flag pin during the debate. Hypocrisy!!

Posted by: JAMES | September 28, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

During the debate my take on the bracelets was that McCain wanted a reminder to honor those that sacrificed for the war and do the right thing by winning and finishing the job in Iraq.
Whereas Obama was wearing a bracelet to symbolize that no other mother will suffer in losing a son in war; i.e. Obama is anti-war. (He could just as well be wearing a bracelet with Cindy Sheehan’s son’s name on it.)
As a President one must send people off to war and some will die and be wounded. But if you are an anti-war President then no troops will be sent ever.
How does this anti-war, no mother’s suffer for the loss of a child, square away with Obama wanting to ratchet up the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan? More sons and daugthers will die there with the increase in troops Obama sends into combat.

Posted by: Zank | September 28, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

McCain said during the debate that our sodiers are dying in vain.

Posted by: james | September 28, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Well it sounds like McCain and the Ex are using the son to political advantage to me.
Lets exploit the whole thing, by blaming Obama for exploiting it.
McCain is a sick man and need mental help. He is unstable, and unsavory, period

Posted by: Thinking | September 28, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Clint
Thanks for your service as a fellow Independent I feel the same if I hear McCain milk his POW story again Im going to break my tv.
900+ pows in Vietnam I dont see any others claiming they should be President!

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

I’m sure Obama’s next response will be: “Those Jopeks are not the people that I knew.”

Posted by: Tony | September 28, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

McCain said during the debate that our sodiers are dying in vain. You don’t die in vain when you serve your country. Senator Obama brought that to his attention during the debate.
WHAT A SHAME FOR A MAN OF SO CALLED HONOR. He invoked the name of a fallen sokdier and said the mom said don’t let my child die in vain..

Posted by: james | September 28, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

If the bracelet does not fit, you must acquit.

Posted by: Karl | September 28, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

McCain said during the debate that our sodiers are dying in vain. You don’t die in vain when you serve your country. Senator Obama brought that to his attention during the debate.
WHAT A SHAME FOR A MAN OF SO CALLED HONOR. He invoked the name of a fallen soldier and said the mom said don’t let my child die in vain..

Posted by: James | September 28, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Obama needs to get out the msg that when he talks about rebuilding infrastructure, alternate energy, etc. he is talking about JOBS! Putting people to work so they CAN afford to pay their mortgages etc. He mentioned several things in debate, but did not make the strong connection to JOBS just talked about spending the money for these things. He has to keep hitting on JOBS! We can bail ourselves out if given the opportunity to work!

Posted by: Phyl | September 28, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

I think the point is missed – as everyone is debating meaningless noise like this unsubstantiated, irresponsible reporting, who is noticing that Sarah Palin once again is not making the rounds of the Sunday news programs, interviews, press meetings? This is exactly what the McCain campaign is hoping to achieve, distractions that prevent the truth from being evident. I am ashamed that Jake and ABC would report such a sensitive story and use our soldiers in a political way without verifying the story first. But the McCain campaign counts on the media to be irresponsible.

Posted by: winter99 | September 28, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

These internet rumors are silly.

Posted by: jt | September 28, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

In other words, everything Obama said was factual. The bracelet was given, and what was said was said. Later the boy’s father came out against it (he didn’t give the bracelet and Obama was speaking of what the mother told him), and he said his ex-wife didn’t want him to wear it. Unless such is said from the mother of this fallen soldier, there is no basis to this story.

Posted by: Micah | September 28, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Hmmm…on the one side there is this, on the other there is the issue of an incompetent lunatic running for Vice President of the United States…

Posted by: Fluff | September 28, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

“I couldn’t believe it. It was such an honor, such an honor,” she said. “To know that he does know his name. It means a lot.”
If you roll back the tape, you can plainly see that Obama has to look down and READ the soldier’s name on the bracelet. Another stunt from America’s ‘messiah’.

Posted by: Flo | September 28, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Please!!! Have some compassion for the families of our fallen. They’ve suffered enough. Let this one go!!!

Posted by: jenny | September 28, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

The so called conservatives are responsible for $700 billion dollars bailout. The endless wars, and a sinking economy.
They are the ones that is bringing this great country down. When have they ever discussed the issues. Nada Nada.
Bunch of Baffons…

Posted by: james | September 28, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Personally,I think the media & both campaigns should let this go,no ads,no publicity at all.
No one knows the true story of why she asked Sen. Obama to wear it,or if she asked him to stop wearing it.
Only she & the Senator know for sure.
What we ALL do know for sure is that a very brave young man gave his life serving his country.
As a Father a Grandfather ,a former member of the military,and an American,I ask that we salute this hero,& not make a campaign issue out of this.
I love you Mom…my prayers are with you.
Justin

Posted by: Justin | September 28, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

The so called conservatives are responsible for $700 billion dollars bailout. The endless wars, and a sinking economy.
They are the ones that is bringing this great country down. When have they ever discussed the issues. Nada Nada.
Bunch of Baffons…

Posted by: james | September 28, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Okay, so the Jopeks are not married anymore and her husband, likely a republican, thinks he has the right to speak for her.
Certainly, she may have mixed feelings since anytime her son’s name comes up it will bring a new wave of grief for her. But I have to believe her husband is the one exploiting her now.
As a Vietnam Veteran, who worked closely with Gold Star Parents for Peace back in the 1970s, I am proud of Ms. Jopek for not swallowing the line that without “victory” soldiers will have died in vain. It is an unfortunate argument, akin to John McSame’s argument that we should not have a liveable GI Bill because it will discourage reenlistment.
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: jackt51 | September 28, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

So the press has to bother the mother on this again? Why? The soldier’s father doesn’t want Obama wearing the bracelet. That is his son too. He has every right to ask Obama not use his son’s name in vain. Obama should have absolutely respected the father’s wishes. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Why didn’t you “make that phone call” to the Obama campaign before posting this article? If you had phoned and they had not responded, the situation would be different. But apparently, you didn’t try to get the other side of the story before “going to press.” What ever happened to real journalism and trying to verify a story before publishing?

Posted by: Caroline | September 28, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

NEITHER Obama nor McCain should be citing these talismans of private grief on the campaign trail. McCain does it so regularly, it’s practically a tic. You can tell when he’s about to do – he makes a funny gesture with his arm. It didn’t surprise me that he whipped out his bracelet first at the debate. I don’t like it when Obama does it either.
Also, it is just extremely wrong for the right wing to inject itself and the media circus into this family’s private grief. Jake, you’re playing into this. Stop it. By ferreting around for this, they’re just wrecking these people’s lives. Ms. Jopek’s sentiment was honest and real, and should be left at that. What the right wingers are doing is just wrong. It’s low, crass, and typical. They should just leave this ALONE.

Posted by: Tungsten | September 28, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

UH James, You TOTALLY missed the freakin point! The mother of the soldier that McCain has on the bracelet, said if the MISSION failed that her son would have died in vain! Sometimes it seems like such a waste of time trying to straighten out you libtards!Did anyone notice that the Messiah couldn’t even remember the name on HIS bracelet? I’m surprised the thing didn’t melt on that losers wrist.If it was up to him all our military would have lost this war. Him and that idiot Harry Reid!

Posted by: marine 43 | September 28, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Obama continues to be despicable.

Posted by: The Haimster | September 28, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Uh, Jake? All of this is coming from her EX-HUSBAND WHO SUPPORTS McCAIN. Ever thought about doing the reporting first and THEN writing about stuff?

Posted by: neesh | September 28, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Enough! These brave young men died for their country. Both campaigns need to stop trying to score political points using the heroic sacrifices are soldiers, sailors, and airmen are making as a weapon against their campaign rival.

Posted by: Mike M | September 28, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

“Hmmm…on the one side there is this, on the other there is the issue of an incompetent lunatic running for Vice President of the United States…” –Fluff
Finally, someone with the guts to call Biden out. Good job.

Posted by: Emm | September 28, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

So in otther words, you publish an unfounded rumor, based on a possible accusation from an ex-husband, without verifying it, then it ends up on Drudge as fact (since most Drudge readers will never end read to the end of your story), and you don’t even know if it’s true?? What journalism school did you go to? They must be very proud.
So that’s the “liberal media” at work.

Posted by: Robert | September 28, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

This story reminds me a lot of the stories that came out about Sarah Palin over the past month or so. The media reported it because…well, because someone else reported it, so it became a story. It was shameful then, and in this case, it’s shameful now. I’m waiting for the facts before I condemn Obama for wearing the bracelet.
Besides, there are plenty of other things to bash Obama for.

Posted by: Thomas | September 28, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

This has to do with a grief stricken mother and a DIVORCE from a man who still wants to CONTROL what she does!
This man DOES NOT speak for HER. She DIVORCED his lousy butt! He is angry because he is supporting McCain. Period.
Barack would NEVER propagate this story. He has other bracelets given to him. I saw him receive one from family members of another soldier. He wanted to refuse it, but accepted it at their plea. He doesn’t need to use this as a ploy. And for those to suggest it – is just plain WRONG.

Posted by: Independant American Woman | September 28, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

I watched the debate and saw Obama fumbling around for the guy’s name. He could care less. . . a stage prop for him.

Posted by: Sandra | September 28, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

I’ve got a bracelet too!!! I’ve got a bracelet too!!! I love the troops too..really!! Never mind what I’ve said in the past. I’ve got a bracelet too!!!

Posted by: Barry O. | September 28, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

jact51 wrote:
“Okay, so the Jopeks are not married anymore and her husband, likely a republican, thinks he has the right to speak for her.”
First, how do you know he’s “likely a republican?”
Second, isn’t it his son too we’re speaking about?

Posted by: K-Man | September 28, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Obama had to look at the braclet to see what name was on it.
I think the person who should be investigated by Jake Tapper on TV is Barney Frank who seems to be getting away with causing the subprime mortgage mess. Why don’t you ask him what role he played in causing this financial crisis.

Posted by: sally | September 28, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Who brought a fallen soldiers name first. McShame!! and what was he trying to get at.
NO WONDER HE FORGOT TO WEAR A LAPEL!!
HYPOCRISY!!!!

Posted by: james | September 28, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Obama will do anything, say anything just to get votes.

Posted by: golfgirlusa | September 28, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

I have a call into the Obama campaign and Tracy Jopek to find out more about this story, and will let you know what they say.
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Shame on you, Tapper! One of the first things I tell my students in basic reporting class is that you don’t publish a story like this without having the facts. If Jopek tells you this story is a load of bull, it won’t matter that you publish a retraction – the false talking point is already in circulation. What you did is sleazy, partisan, and unprofessional. Thanks for providing a first-rate example of how NOT to be a journalist; your readers and ABC News may not benefit from your lack of professionalism, but my students will.

Posted by: Phil Uzo | September 28, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

I think it is sick that the media is reporting this as the “Family” when the ex husband is trying to control what his wife does and says. He probably is a McCain supporter. No wonder she divorced him.

Posted by: EJS | September 28, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Obama is as sick as they come! How dare he dishonor a fallen soldier and their family like this!

Posted by: Cory | September 28, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Politicians are without shame or honor, every one of them. They’ll say anything to anyone who’ll listen. They’ll play every card they can pull out of their sleve. They’re driven to it just like a Broadway or Hollywood actor. Let’s face it folks, we’re fast approaching a high cliff overlooking a raging ocean strewn with sharp rocks and lashing currents. And all us little lemmings is gonna go right over the edge, out into that brisk misty air, and have one last thrill before it’s all over. Ain’t we?

Posted by: Mike | September 28, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Jake are you getting ideas directly from Drudge now? why didn’t you check the facts of this “story” BEFORE you put it up?

Posted by: cs | September 28, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Jake so you are going to exploit this for what? Your career? I am sure the mother didn’t ask for you to get involved.
The father claims the mother didn’t want this bracelet to be a big media event, yet he makes it so, he unsubtly called the McCain camp to make it one, and so you have obliged him and McCain.
This will now go viral, warranted or not.
You call this journalism? I think you owe the mother an apology.

Posted by: Thinking | September 28, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

The fact that Obama didn’t even know the soldier’s name was the BIG outrage here!

Posted by: Missy5537 | September 28, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

McCain comes up short in a debate he was expected to win, so now his increasingly desperate campaign is trying to manufacture a controversy where there isn’t any. Standard operating procedure.

Posted by: Lemmy | September 28, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

@Concerned in OH
@Concerned in OH
It was McCain who first used another woman’s son’s story in an attempt of self promotion. But I do think that neither candidate should be bandying about the names of persons who have passed on.
Obama does have a point. All military have served honourable and those who have died have don so in the service of America. Their deaths are not in vain. But the Iraq war was not a necessary war.

Posted by: Kloche | September 28, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

This does not suprise me. We are, after all, discussing Obama, someone the MSM has tried to shove down our throats. Someone, who, they keep telling us was Editor of Harvard Law Review, yet, hides the fact Obama never published a single article in the Review (unheard of).

Posted by: Tora | September 28, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Sally look at the video again Obama doesnt look at the bracelet he pauses to try and remember the moms name and he cant so he says from the mother of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek.
The looked at it on CNN his eyes dont reach the bracelet.

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

The thing I most noticed in the debate was that McCain knew by heart the name of the soldier whose bracelet he wore — and Obama had to LOOK DOWN AND READ the name on his bracelet.
HE DIDN’T EVEN REMEMBER THE MAN’S NAME!
OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST LIAR AND FAKE THAT HAS EVER RUN FOR PRESIDENT!

Posted by: Susan | September 28, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

“It was meant as a sign of respect, but now conservatives are saying Sen. Barack Obama’s invocation of his “hero bracelet” bearing the name of a fallen soldier is being done against the family’s wishes.”
How in God’s creation do you get off saying that? The writer presumes to know the heart of Barack Obama… in your “investigations” why don’t you try to answer that question to instead of answering for his intentions?
Wait… I know! Because you feel you do know the man’s heart. Because you will spin anything as a positive whether you have the full story or not.
Because, in your eyes, there are no negatives about Barack. Only opportunities to promote Barack so he will be kind to you and invite you to democrat parties should he win…
I pray you will be disappointed.
Gordon

Posted by: Gordon Greene | September 28, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

@Concerned in OH
It was McCain who first used another woman’s son’s story in an attempt of self promotion. But I do think that neither candidate should be bandying about the names of persons who have passed on.
Obama does have a point. All military have served honourable and those who have died have don so in the service of America. Their deaths are not in vain. But the Iraq war was not a necessary war.

Posted by: Kloche | September 28, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

This has to do with a grief stricken mother and a DIVORCE from a man who still wants to CONTROL what she does!
This man DOES NOT speak for HER. She DIVORCED his lousy butt! He is angry because he is supporting McCain. Period.
Barack would NEVER propagate this story. He has other bracelets given to him. I SAW him receive one from family members of ANOTHER soldier. He tried to refuse it, but accepted it because they insisted he take it! I have the video of this! He doesn’t need to use this as a ploy. And for those to suggest it – is just plain WRONG.

Posted by: Independant American Woman | September 28, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Obama is now up by 8 in the Gallup. Say goodby trolls!

Posted by: jim | September 28, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

This is just your typical egotistical interpretation of another’s action. Just as the liberals egotistically assumed that Americans supported their left-winged policies when they were given control of congress during the last election, (when it was simply that we DIDN’T SUPPORT THE ACTIONS OF THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS either), again, here comes another stupid liberal assuming that an action means much more than it does, and he publicly pats himself on the back with it. I swear if Obama’s head gets any bigger, it’s gonna EXPLODE! Give him some duct tape.

Posted by: Emmie | September 28, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

Jack Tapper can you twist this any more making excuses for Obama like the media did in Obama loosing the debate and coming up he therefore did good?
Mr. Tapper you are reprehensible as Obama in looking for explanations when the facts are there.
Liberals like Obama use grieving women like Cindy Sheehan and then dump them by the side of the road.
Where Mr. Tapper is your noting that Obama DIDN’T EVEN KNOW THIS SOLDIER’S NAME IN THE DEBATE and had to look down and read it!
ABC is a disgrace from Diane Sawyer posing for pictures with Barack Obama like a fawning Obama girl to George Stephanopoulos’ report card.
All of you propagandists should be fired for the mayhem you have set this American nation up for in literal impeachment proceedings if Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden get into office.
Delaware for both of these candidates illegally arrested Lawrence Sinclair. Chicago just released that Obama gave $100,000 to some of his supporters who embezzled it. ACORN is being funded by CSI to do stage work and CSI says it doesn’t even do that.
And here you sit Mr. Tapper waiting for the phone to ring trying to dig Obama out of another reprehensible story.
ABC should just change it’s name to A Barack exCuse as you are a the worst excuse for a network on television.

Posted by: Lame Cherry | September 28, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

lol,
mccain used a soldier for political gain
this seems silly, i mean obama was just saying that a mother asked him to wear a bracelet for her son and to get us out of this stupid war
i dont see how he was trying ot get votes, if he was, then so was mccain
plain and simple

Posted by: bhrandon | September 28, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Concerned in OH
Whats your point ?
OBAMA was right on Iraq McCain was wrong!
PS
RCP Electoral Count Obama 228 McCain 163 Obama +65
No Toss Up States Obama 286 McCain 252 Obama +34

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

I think confirmation is needed on the question of whether the family still doesn’t want Obama using the son on the campaign trail.
what IS undeniable is that Obama couldn’t even remember the soldier’s name. It was shameful.

Posted by: beth | September 28, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

The polls are misleading. AOL’s unscientific poll and it’s always close to 60% in McCain’s favor. They poll at least 300,000 voters.

Posted by: Yellow Journalism | September 28, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

And I forgot to add to my earlier post that Obama acted like a 4-year-old, with his “me, too” moment. It was not gracefully done.

Posted by: beth | September 28, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Anybody who would give Obama a bracelet that belonged to their fallen son, is missing a HUGE point! OBAMA IS A MARXIST! Would she have been happier if her son died fighting for communism? She needs to do her homework on Obama. Ignorance costs this country a lot, in many ways. Too bad it’s in such abundant supply.

Posted by: Emmie | September 28, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Beside cudos for picking up this “me too” thing. This is to the person who thinks John McCain said the soldiers were there in vain.
That is what the mother said to him, to continue, so her son’s death would not be in vain.

Posted by: Alysse | September 28, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

“I have a bracelet too” reminded me of “you forgot Poland” from 2004. That was before I found out how crass this was. There’s karma for these kind of actions.

Posted by: Not Your sweetie | September 28, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Here is a story line that I would like to see. Do the Iraqi people miss Saddam Hussein? Seems like he was a weapon of mass destruction himself. Mr. Tapper, can you find out the answer to this question?

Posted by: Anne | September 28, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

That was a very funny moment in the debate.
Obama:”Oh well I have a bracelet too. And then he couldn’t even remember the guys name.
What is he, 5. What a little man-child.
Classic Obama.

Posted by: S Adams | September 28, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

If Obama thinks he can get the military vote by exploiting this, think twice. The military will never vote for someone like this.

Posted by: BlameAmericaLast | September 28, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

The most ignorant, ill-informed posts in this thread come from the pseduo-progressives that have done nothing but stand for socialization of our country on every turn. There is NO “taking back” of this country by a mentality that has government invading our right to make simple choices from cradle to grave….it is as far from what the framers intended as they themselves could have ever envisioned as one could get.
Our military tells us what they believe when they take the oath to serve this nation in all her callings. There are ways out if one was of a mind to. That being the case, the kind and brave soul of Sgt Jopek spoke to the people of this nation when he spoke those words. Anyone can analyze this however it suits them, I will take his own words for it.
I don’t know about anyone else but I’m about sick and tired of the rabid liberals that walk our streets and infect just about every avenue of our lives. Nothing is too precious for them to wipe their muddied birkenstocks on….certainly not our military. They’ve shown time and again how little they care for those that stand between them and those that would kill even their own children. They are hopeless and sickening altogether.

Posted by: Gabby_babs | September 28, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

As we all know, only lying Republican swine are permitted to talk about the war. Republicans not only have no shame, they also have no conscience.

Posted by: AMB | September 28, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

@Gordon Greene,
“Because, in your eyes, there are no negatives about Barack. Only opportunities to promote Barack so he will be kind to you and invite you to democrat parties should he win…”
Gordon Greene presumes to know the heart of the writer.
See how easy it is to pick apart someone’s writing?

Posted by: Dave | September 28, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

What?!
Don’t you have an editor?
How is this news?
You’re going to get back to us? Please, next time post your story when it’s finished.
This is all just gossip.

Posted by: cb | September 28, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

BlameAmerica
More American troops in Iraq support Obama not McCain google it!

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Democrats are the party of hate and discontent. They thrive on deception and the bias of our liberal media. I weep for the country.

Posted by: Jami Simmons | September 28, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

This nonsense that because Obama paused for a microsecond to look at the bracelet and REFRAME his sentence from saying the soldier’s name, which he was about to do, to saying “the mother of” is blatant hair-splitting and misrepresentation. It doesn’t matter. McCain is the exploiter of our soldiers and the one lying about his support of them to get votes, and the vets all know it.He constantly introduces his military service into everything he does, and equates it with a love of country that has certainly not been shown in his choices in this campaign. He may have put his country first in the past, but by picking Sarah Palin, he has shown that the interests of this country come last.

Posted by: mags | September 28, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

WHEN WILL MAINSTREAM MEDIA STOPPED BEING COWED BY RIGHT WING…
MCCAIN CAN SHOW OFF HIS BRACELET FOR POLITICS BUT THATS NOT EXPLOITATION OF A FALLEN SOLDIER…

Posted by: abc | September 28, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

This Week In Barack Obama 9-27-08

Obama Endorsed an Anti-Semitic Hate Group, Solicited Another’s Endorsement
Barack Hussein Obama endorsed Al Sharpton and his National Action Network, the same hate group that shouted this and other epithets at a Jewish owned store, as follows: …

Posted by: I'm A Pundit Too | September 28, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Mr. Tapper should have waited until he actually talked with Mrs Jopek and found out her position. But Mr. Tapper was more interested in sensationalism than reality.As for the bracelets, wear them on your wrists, NOT on you arm or in your mouth!

Posted by: Tony Johnson | September 28, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

To Concerned in Ohio:
Opening quote is Abraham Lincoln, not Obama.
Pretty embarrassing he needed to look at bracelet to remember name and he has worn it for how long?

Posted by: Jay | September 28, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Obama is no better than John Murtha who looks down on our soldiers and uses them to fuel their hatred for our Commander and Chief.
I also blame the constituents who keep Murtha in office to keep funding their pork projects that we can no longer afford. How pathetic and un-American.

Posted by: Darrell | September 28, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

John McCain lost the debate he was meant to win… now the republicans are out in force…
McCain is a joke!

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Tapper, it’s really sleazy and unprofessional to put this headline out there without verification. Are you going to take this down and apologize if you can’t confirm it or the the mother denies it?

Posted by: Ken S. | September 28, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

The Jopek family had previously asked Obama not to mention Sgt Ryan Jopek on the campaign stump.
Obama – me first.
McCain – COUNTRY FIRST.

Posted by: RAltiere | September 28, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Well, I have 3 bracelets! Na na, na na na.

Posted by: Emmie | September 28, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

If Obama wins this election, we will all get to experience first-hand what a sick, hate-filled failure this country will become. God help us.

Posted by: Emmie | September 28, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

To Concerned in Ohio:
Opening quote is Abraham Lincoln, not Obama.
Pretty embarrassing he needed to look at bracelet to remember name and he has worn it for how long?

Posted by: Jay | September 28, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

This is another pseudo issue like GOP making a big deal about the flag pin. They love to use people when it suits them, but condemn anyone who calls their bluff.

Posted by: j | September 28, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

The difference is that McCain visits with the troops when he goes to Iraq – Obama looks down his nose at them.
Go McCain – you get it.

Posted by: charlie | September 28, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Dave
Dave’s dorky statement… Not that logic really matters, but I was using something the writer actually said to condemn his words. He was using his interpretation of Barack’s intent…
See how easy it is to come to a logical conclusion?
DOH!

Posted by: Gordon Greene | September 28, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Tony,
Kerry was never up in the polls after Sept 5th. Ignorance is not bliss!

Posted by: jim | September 28, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

“The Jopek family had previously asked Obama not to mention Sgt Ryan Jopek on the campaign stump”
What constitute a family? The mother and sister that gave out the bracelet are not family members.

Posted by: james | September 28, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

hey jake–i have an idea here. why don’t you confirm (i.e.., directly from the mother) that obama has been asked to no longer wear the bracelet before you run the story? seems to me that relying on the word of an ex-husband with different political leanings is more than a little suspect (and unprofessional).

Posted by: antijake | September 28, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

The saddest thing is Obama couldn’t even remember his name at first without looking at the bracelt first. What a phony!

Posted by: milehiboy | September 28, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

“The Jopek family had previously asked Obama not to mention Sgt Ryan Jopek on the campaign stump”
What constitute a family? The mother and sister that gave out the bracelet are not family members.

Posted by: james | September 28, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

How about Obama…he couldnt remember his name! He had to look at the bracelet.Obama is not as smart as the media, in general, portrays him to be.Take away the teleprompter and this guy is lost!

Posted by: Rob | September 28, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

So the father lacks the guts and stones to stay married to the mother, but wants to disavow the mother’s wishes? Typical Republican crap. This guy walks out on his family, but wants to stand up and refute Obama. Put a dress on this guy and send him to Iraq – gutless coward. We need more men in this country willing to stay married and less cowards wanting to take political shots at Godly men like Obama. Is this what the Republican party has become? The party of adulterers and divorcees? The party that can’t keep commitments and sends our citizens to die without any forethought or commitment?

Posted by: Dave | September 28, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Vet Jim–That is a very informative website. I’m surprised though that the Fight the Smears campaign hasn’t paid someone off to shut it down. Obama doesn’t want any info out there that states the truth about him and his past. He reminds me more and more of the Communist party.
Hail Obama!

Posted by: S Adams | September 28, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Excuse me, those of us who saw the debate, watched in horror as Obama had to fumble around and actually read the soldier’s name from the bracelet, because Obama could not remember what it was.

Posted by: joInAmerica | September 28, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Jake, leave the family alone. They made the ultimate sacrafice and don’t need to be fodder for your blog.

Posted by: watching | September 28, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Why does everyone bring up poll numbers? Do you really take them seriously? It’s just certain people who vote, they are not reliable. In 2000 Gore had monstrous leads over Bush in the polls and should have swept the election. That defintly was not the case.
Quit taking stock in polls and using them to an advantage, if you are going to use information to prove your point, use facts!

Posted by: Nancy | September 28, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Obama couldn’t even remember his name. Whata complete slap in the face. Nobama is a goofball!

Posted by: Ed O'Shea | September 28, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

The truth of the matter about the Bracelets are neither would need a bracelet if not for Bush & Co. after 911 falesly led people into a Phony and fraudulent war in Iraq when Bin Ladin is in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Angellight | September 28, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Let me tell you what a shame is.. That the internet nuts would attack the mother. And reading some of the posts in here, I can see how that happened.
A mother lost her child. She shares that grief with a political canidate, and asks him not to let her child be forgotten. Then gets attacked in the insanity of the internet by ghouls, who love their political frame of view, more than they love their country, or care for the mother of one our fallen.

Posted by: peacetrain | September 28, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Obama is evil. We are doomed if he becomes President.

Posted by: Hillary | September 28, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

An ACORN operative wearing a bracelet of a fallen soldier to promote his candidacy…sounds pretty much like standard operating porcedure…SAY ANYTHING..

Posted by: Thotman | September 28, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

I don’t understand why you complain about Obama having a dead American soldier’s bracelet when McCAIN HAS ONE TOO.
Are only some American families’ sacrifices worth honoring?
How can that be?
On the other hand, OBAMA WEARS A FLAG PIN AND McCAIN DOESN’T.
OBAMA LOVES AMERICA.
McCAIN LOVES McCAIN.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 28, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Jake Tapper, true to form, neglects to point out that Obama could not recall Sgt. Ryan David Jopek’s name without looking at the bracelet. If McCain needed to look to recall the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley then Tapper and the rest of the cut n’ paste media would trumpet the fact continually, and talking heads like Olbermann, Mitchell, Matthews, Gregory, et al, would all be musing that McCain is either senile or using a fallen soldier as a campaign prop and really doesn’t care about him.
So how about it, Tapper? Why not mention Obama didn’t remember Jopek’s name when you update this story?

Posted by: ynot4tony2 | September 28, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

I have 4 bracelets too! All from 4 brothers (relatives of mine) who were killed serving with Wisconsin Infantry units during the Civil War. I have an additional bracelet from an uncle (USMC) who didn’t survive WWII. My brother and I survived tours in Nam ( no bracelets unfortunately) for politicians to use for political gain. In the final analysis, it’s a dangerous world and always has been. For all you liberals out there–Do you really want to turn the keys over to a thirteen year old in a busy neighborhood?

Posted by: Neil | September 28, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

KnowsBetter knows not. LBJ was the Democrat president who escalated the Viet Nam war. Nixon recalled the troops but a Democrat-controlled congress killed financial support to the South which allowed the North to overrun all of Viet Nam.
Additionally, a Democrat blew the Bay of Pigs.
And a Democrat was in the White House for that fiasco we call the Korean War.
A Democrat was in the White House when the U.S. military pulled out of Mogadeshu.
Republicans have won every war they were involved in since Reagan. INCLUDING Iraq. TWICE.

Posted by: Chicken Sock Puppet | September 28, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

watching-
You’re telling Jake to leave this family alone? Why don’t you tell Obama to stop exploiting this family’s loss?
I think your sentiment is aimed more at protecting Obama from criticism rather than any real concern for this family.
Shameful.

Posted by: dualdiagnosis | September 28, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

john – read the whole story – the mother did ask the obama campaign to stop. and – everyone has to admit that when he whined the he was wearing a bracelet also, he jumped the shark. bye bye obama you held on for as long as you could. nice job, but you won’t be president.

Posted by: rita | September 28, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Let me add one thing…Shame on you Jake Tapper, for not checking your sources before posting something like this, only to add to that kind of attack.

Posted by: peacetrain | September 28, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Especially now that Obama can’t even remember the name of the guy, I’m sure they want it OFF.
“I’ve got a bracelet too…it’s uh, uh, uh, uh, ”
A line that will go down in infamy.
President McCain – get use to it!

Posted by: Jo | September 28, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Mr. Obama – AMERICA wants you to take off your flag lapel pin because when you wear it, it’s a disgrace after you and your wife’s bashing of this country.
Obama we are ashamed of you.

Posted by: Jo | September 28, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Newsweek Magazine: McCain won the debate!!

Posted by: No Obama | September 28, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

My condolences for the parents grief. But, I really don’t think what they think about Iraq matters. The question is, what did Ryan Jopek believe? Did he support the war and believe in his mission? Most soldiers in Iraq do, as is evidenced by the record retention rates.
This infantilization of our fighting men and women has got to stop. Is the death of some 4000 of our best young men and women been a tragedy? Of course. But, it is war, and people die. In the time that those roughly 4000 soldiers have died in Iraq, over 200,000 men, women and children have died on our nation’s highways, for nothing more than the convenience of being able to get from point A to point B rapidly. As a member of a family who had a young one die on those highways, I can tell you the grief is no less than that of the Jopek family. But, at least Ryan Jopek died for a purpose that, to all appearances, he believed in fighting for.

Posted by: Bart | September 28, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Excuse me, those of us who saw the debate, watched in horror as Obama had to fumble around and actually read the soldier’s name from the bracelet, because Obama could not remember what it was.
Enough! These brave young men died for their country. Both campaigns need to stop trying to score political points using the heroic sacrifices are soldiers, sailors, and airmen are making as a weapon against their campaign rival.
I quote two previous posters.
I certainly wish the media would quit campaigning so much. Stop printing out polls…the polls mean nothing. I read one that had McCain overwhelmingly winning the debate, and others that had Obama winning overwhelmingly.
MEDIA STAY OUT OF TT!!!

Posted by: NC conservative | September 28, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

McCain is an idiot!! He can’t talk about the real issuses because he dosen’t have a clue!! He can exploit the war dead but heaven forbid his opponent have supporters who have lost loved ones as well

Posted by: Veteran for Obama | September 28, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

It seems the young man died because of politics and can’t even rest in peace because of politics. That doesn’t say much for any politican.

Posted by: TGood | September 28, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

I can tell you from nearly a quarter of a century of military experience and 3 combat tours 90-91 2003 and 2004 that Barak Hussien Obama does not fair well amongst my military associates. His cut and run and increased taxes does nothing to assist or show support for the men and women who wear ther uniform of the military. Sure most blacks support him because he has a chance of being the first black president even though he is mostly Arabic, but most people in the military want to win in Iraq, McCain supports victory Obama supports defeat, just so he can win. That’s just wrong no matter what color your skin is.

Posted by: Michael | September 28, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

These are the dumbest comments I have ever read.

Posted by: jen | September 28, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

“41″ glances at his watch while Clinton blathers on = MEDIA FIRESTORM. Obama looks at his prop bracelet to remember the fallen soldiers name = MEDIA YAWN.

Posted by: Right of the One | September 28, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

After days of saying that John McCain would not attend Friday’s presidential debate unless an agreement on a bailout package for the markets was “locked-down,” the McCain campaign has gone back on its word.
On Friday, it announced that the Senator would head down to Mississippi even though, as they readily admit, much work remained needed on the bailout agreement.
The whole episode left even conservatives admitting that the McCain campaign looked erratic and a bit foolish with no apparent direction or guiding principle.

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Obama wearing or contending that he is a brother in arms, or a grand patriot, like McCain is -Is just a case of “Monkey see,Monkey do”

Posted by: Jd | September 28, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

The debate mattered not to me. I simply don’t trust Obama. I think he cares more about keeping the Europeans and the middle east happy than he does about protecting America. The guy’s wife even said, “For the first time in my life I’m proud to be an American.” For the first time, eh. Why on earth should you lead the country? I don’t think he loves it, and I don’t think he’d lay down his life for it. McCain’s whole persona is “I will die for this country.” And I believe him.
And to me, that’s what really matters.

Posted by: Mike | September 28, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Everything’s Just Fine

Democrats in Their Own Words Fuddy Duddy Republicans try to slow down the Ponzi Scheme, with the usual results! Robert Brent Toplin: We Ignore the 1929 Parallel at Our Peril $700 Bailout Accord ReachedOf the $700 billion figure, House Majority

Posted by: Liberty Peak Lodge | September 28, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

SINCE OBAMA KEEPS BRAGGING ABOUT HIM NOT VOTING FOR THE IRAQ WAR…HE WAS NOT EVEN IN THE SENATE WHEN THE WAR STARTED…AND BY THE WAY SINCE HE IS THE MOST INEXPERIENCED PERSON TO EVER RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND IS SPENDING BY FAR MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE EVER DID…WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM AND WHO GAVE IT TO HIM AND WHAT DO THEY EXPECT IN RETURN…HE SOLD OUT THE COUNTRY AND TO WHOM…I SUSPECT THE CHINESE JUST AS THE DEMOCRAT CLINTON DID BEFOR HIM..PEOPLE DON’T GIVE AN UNKNOWN THAT KIND OF MONEY SUPPORT WITHOUT EXPECTING A LOT OF FAVORS IN RETURN…

Posted by: FRANCOIS | September 28, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Why am I suspicious that the story left out the fact that Zero had to look at his notes to recall the name of the soldier? One word for Zero boy: PHONY

Posted by: Jack Sharp | September 28, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

I agree with Michael’s post. I’ve also served in the military and I’m currently a military dependant stationed aboard NAS JRB Belle Chasse, La. Even in an area that is primarily African American there is a lot of resentment toward not only Obama but the whole Democratic Party. They blame Bush for everything while they have had the senate and the house for the last two years. What most of us feel is angry toward the Democrats the code pink party of the US. We want victory and that means we have a larger support for McCain/Palin. The last time we checked it was 82% TO 16% amongst our friends. And yes, the 16% voting for Obama were black. They couldn’t give you one reason they were voting for him, they only new talking points, Hope and Change. That’s sad, really sad.

Posted by: Lynn | September 28, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Why all this brouhaha about a freaking bracelet?! Thousands of our soldiers dead, trillions of dollars wasted, and so much more lost all because of Bush and the neocons who wanted access to Iraq’s oil, er, weapons of mass destruction, er, freedom, er, whatever. This was a war that need not have happened. Bush and Cheney lied, and Osama Bin Laden still walks free. How about getting the real perpetrators of 9/11 instead of using the attacks to fight Halliburton-enriching wars? Bush and Cheney and McCain are the three stooges. . . .

Posted by: Bracelet Bob | September 28, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

Newsweek Magazine:The contours of the race and the climate in the country still favor Obama, who holds a small but consistent lead in recent polls. To remake the landscape, McCain would’ve had to score a knockout blow. He didn’t come close. The question, then, is whether he can keep delivering such solid performances from now until Nov. 4–and whether even that will be enough.

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

If you saw the debate, it looked to me that Mr. O’Babble had forgotten the soldier’s name. Another stunt trying to equal McCain like his comment a while back that he had “thought about” joining the military after high school ??? Pretty comical to those of us who actually did join.

Posted by: Ron | September 28, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

“The one” will do and say anything to get elected. Those of you on the left. be careful what you wish for and what you believe. It is my opinion that your hatred of Bush blinds you to a bigger evil. Think through carefully entrusting the nation to this man in a time of great peril.

Posted by: George Jackson | September 28, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

If you’re going to wear the bracelet it would help if you actually remembered the name on it, how hard is that?

Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | September 28, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

As a Republican SUPPORTING Senator Obama, I have nothing but respect for him and his position.
To those of you drinking the koolaid from the McCain camp I say this to you. Be careful what you wish for. If McCain is elected you can bet tha there are going to tens of thousands of mothers with bracelets wanting to give them to McCain.
His position on going to war with ANYONE is clear. Make sure you have your sons ready to go, because McCain WILL reinstate the draft.

Posted by: JennCoolFla | September 28, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Uh, ah….um, uh, ah…. um, uh, uh, um, ah, uh… uh, ah, uh, um…. uh, ah, ah, um….oh forget it!

Posted by: Obama | September 28, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

My dad has served several tours in Iraq. He is a proud African American man. We are a proud African American family. The key part of our discription is American, not African. My family would gladly vote for Codi Rice or Gen. Powell but we refuse to vote for Barak Obama. He has no experience and no depth of character. If our white friends attended a church led by a bigot for 20 years we wouldn’t be friends with them. But we are supposed to support Barak just because he is black. Silly isn’t it. This is the first time I’ve ever voted and I’m proud to say I’m putting my country and my dads service first and voting for Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin. She’s a strong woman with the values my African American family has been raised with.

Posted by: Sofia | September 28, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Republicans should understand that they do not have exclusivity when it comes to the US military. Obama has out raised McCain amongst enlisted soldiers. And wasn’t it rather reaching when McCain inserted POW into the debate. Okay John, I am from a middle class military family, what exactly have you done for us lately?

Posted by: Txnewswatcher | September 28, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

No Liberal respects soldiers. At best they treat them like fools and pathetic victims.

Posted by: John Kantor | September 28, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

I love how when a Democrat lies or does something wrong the media presents it as “Republicans charge…” or Republicans say…
but when it’s a Republican that the media is discussing it’s just presented as fact and not what the other party is charging them with.

Posted by: Mark E | September 28, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

I am hearing that Obama was asked NOT to wear the bracelet of a fallen hero and chose to politicize the brave man’s death and ignored the wishes of his family.
Obama should apologize publicly to the Jopek family…

Posted by: SF | September 28, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Wow! I’m really amazed to read a post by media criticizing Obama for something after the first debate! Is it out of the fear that the whole America would block all these News channels after seeing how biased they are? I have been wondering how blinded our media representatives have been throughout this campaign. I am not an Obama or Mccain supporter but after watching media reactions, I was not sure if all these guys watched the same debate as I did on their own channels. No matter who wins this Election, one thing is sure, media is the biggest looser!! America, please listen to only candidates and use your own mind to make decisions!! Don’t be fooled by blind media!

Posted by: Andy | September 28, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Why is it that when someone is against Obama because of his stance on the issues, they are called a racist?
Saying that is like saying that everyone who doesn’t support Obama is mind dead. If Obama’s people really believe that then I truly fear for our country because it shows they have no respect for anyone that doesn’t agree with them.

Posted by: JW Morrison | September 28, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Txnewswatcher
Right on!!

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

None of us want lying to be part of politics, but if you are critical and unbiased enough and dig a little deeper, the name Obama often comes up. But like I said, you have to dig a litle deeper. Obama is a very hideous politician.

Posted by: country voter | September 28, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Obummer should not be allowed to speak about the war. He is such a hypocrite! He does not even admit the surge is working. I would be ashamedif Obummer was POTUS

Posted by: Upland Patriot | September 28, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

‘Bama is not fit to scrub the barrack latrines let alone mention the name of a fallen U.S. service member…how pathetic can a politician be to try to act as if he actually cared.
It would be more fitting if ‘Bama had a name of a fallen taliban, or, al qaeda terrorist on his wrist.

Posted by: 01_NoBs | September 28, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

I am a veteran and I am amazed at the words people post. Liberals do not care about veterans? please! more veterans are democrats than republicans. Mostly because republicans make sure their kids do not join the military.
My love of country, community and my fellow citizens is second to none.
My loyalty to doing the right thing is paramount to living in the greatest country on this earth. I am sorry the Republicans have put us in such a bad place. It is time to make a change, or get George Bush III in the office. maybe our country is in good shape. But I will vote Obama and I will honor all veterans as long as I live.
Many thanks to all the families who have buried their children, brothers, sisters, moms and dads to protect our country. It is too bad Georgey Bush has sold us out to the fat cats. Then to have him bail out his buddies. can anyone see what a bad and evil guy Bush is, or is everyone blinded by his brightness?
Mission Accomplished? !

Posted by: whattim | September 28, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Why would you write this article without hearing back from the Obama campaign? That is very poor reporting methodology.

Posted by: cp | September 28, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Is there a liberal “Drudge” site? Or, is there no real story behind liberal media lies?

Posted by: jd | September 28, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

OBAMA SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO THE JOPEK FAMILY. THIS IS A DISGRACE !

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

McCain started the bracelet nonsense.
He still has no plan to get out of Iraq.
The idea that we have to stay in Iraq for 100 yrs to honor fallen soldiers is ridiculous.

Posted by: Brian H | September 28, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Biden as Cheney- According to Bush’s enemies, The media and sheep, The Bush administration has Redefined and elevated the office of The Vice President to a black op’s secret office that pulls the strings of the President and is the real power base in Washington. If this is so, then can we anticipate a Biden “Presidency” should Obama win?

Posted by: jd | September 28, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

When McCain speaks of a fallen veteran, he means it. For Obama it is a gimmick he has to do. He didn’t even remember the soldier’s name. McCain is genuine; Obama is a fraud.

Posted by: Rob | September 28, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Brian H posted:
McCain started the bracelet nonsense.
He still has no plan to get out of Iraq.
The idea that we have to stay in Iraq for 100 yrs to honor fallen soldiers is ridiculous.
__________________________________
Brian H: I have a foreclosed castle in Ohio that I’ll sell you for a mere $100,000.

Posted by: Emmie | September 28, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Wow! I’m really amazed to read a post by media criticizing Obama for something after the first debate! Is it out of the fear that the whole America would block all these News channels after seeing how biased they are? I have been wondering how blinded our media representatives have been throughout this campaign. I am not an Obama or Mccain supporter but after watching media reactions, I was not sure if all these guys watched the same debate as I did on their own channels. No matter who wins this Election, one thing is sure, media is the biggest looser!! America, please listen to only candidates and use your own mind to make decisions!! Don’t be fooled by blind media!

Posted by: Andy | September 28, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

IF MCCAIN BELIEVE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME PLAN IN AFFGAINSTAIN AS IRAQ WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE TROOPS FOR IT ?
IF HE THINKS THE WAR IN IRAQ QILL BE ON GOING TO 2014 HOW CAN WE DO A TROOP SURGE IN AFGAINISTAIN ?
DRAFT ?
DRAFT ?
DRAFT ?
DRAFT ?
DRAFT ?
DRAFT ?
IF NOT HOW ? ? ?

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

It is interesting how Obama supporters on this blog keep changing the topic from Obama disrespecting a grieving families wishes about a dead soldier’s bracelet to name calling and bashing.
According to reports the mother of Ryan Jopek did not want her son’s death used as a political gimmick and is quite upset that Obama politicized the bracelet at the debate.
Either Obama does not care about the feelings of a family struggling with the loss of their son, brother, grandson, nephew, friend or he is very forgetful and does not have the experience or judgment to be President.

Posted by: SF | September 28, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

I thought the debate was really horrible all around including the b.s. questions from the media. I will probably become another non-voter.
1st. I recall seeing on a cable TV program that before the fall of the Soviet Union, the Soviets were ahead of the USA in technology and science research by 30 years, and the USA had to hire former Soviet scientists to try to catch up–makes me think Russia is 50 years ahead by now since I doubt they would let there top scientists go anywhere…
2nd. The way the US politicians all use the Middle East as some sort of “problem” as though the people there are not being oppressed by wars all of the time–this US-Iraq war that has gone on for some time and is probably more like serious abuse of poor Iraqis as the others have money to leave–International law suits against the USA in the future probablly billions more…
3rd. I find it hard to believe Iran and the other countries do not have atomic weapons since at least 30 years ago since they can buy the stuff from the black market, as well as communist countries. Also, since when does the USA have the right to interfere in other countries to such an extent–seems beyond lousy manners.
4th. The USA keeps polluting foreign lands with wars and military ghoulishness and the superfund in the USA country is probably not enough
for the USA
5th. How come no one with PhDs from MIT or Caltech with international experience languages runs for president or vp?

Posted by: In NYC | September 28, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Get ready all you McSame lovers – your loser Bush policies have brought America’s financial system to its knees. McSame brings more of the same incompetence. Obama will win in November – then we will have to hear all of your whining for the next 4 years. Boo hoo! Cry me a river!

Posted by: Failin Palin | September 28, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

This is so sad.
No wonder Senator Obama didn’t recall the name of this brave soldier and why he is an opportunist, not a fit commander in chief.
Here mom wanted Senator Obama to just know the young man’s name and he hummed and hawed and fiddled frantically for his name….sad

Posted by: Captain America | September 28, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Obama is just a puppet on the stage. So, he couldn’t remember the name on the bracelet. I guess his “handlers” forgot that one item in the rehearsal. It’s so obvious that Obama is just the puppet for the backstage puppet masters who are hell-bent on bringing down this country. How else could a 1-1/2 term Sen. who can barely form a sentence of his own suddenly decide he wanted to be President and the money comes rolling in. If people would just do some research, like in the Investors Business Daily, and see that he’s just a Marxist front. God help us!!

Posted by: Ila Richardson | September 28, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

is this journalism?

Posted by: ryan | September 28, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Failin Palin—
“Get ready all you McSame lovers – your loser Bush policies have brought America’s financial system to its knees. McSame brings more of the same incompetence. Obama will win in November – then we will have to hear all of your whining for the next 4 years. Boo hoo! Cry me a river!”
Do you mean like what we Bush supporters have heard for 8 years?

Posted by: Jd | September 28, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

In NYC
THE AMERICAN ECONOMY CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT WAR.
THERE WAS A RAND CORP STUDY ON IT USE GOOGLE ITS VERRY UGLY YOUR POINTS ARE TRUE THOUGH!

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

My favorite part of the presidential debate was when Obama did his “I have a bracelet too!” and couldn’t remember the name on it.
That reveals the poseur, the fake and his gimmicks – that silly Liberals are totally falling for.
What a bunch of suckers.
Yet the Liberal left think they are intelligentsia!
Hahaha!
I think referring to today’s so-called “intelligentsia” by calling them “intelligentsia” is a form of cruel sarcasm.

Posted by: The Man From Uncle | September 28, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

What I thought was most disrespectful was that Obama couldn’t even remember the poor soldier’s name. If I was that boy’s parents I would be fit to be tied and want the bracelet back!

Posted by: mak | September 28, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

The McCain camp knows what most of us know, they have the more experienced and most qualified candidate. Obama’s supporters only know how to lie, cheat and call names. Look at the bloggers on this site. All Obama supporters can say is if you don’t vote for their chief bigot you’re a bigot. Well I’ve got news for you. The Polls are not talking to hard working Americans who see through the fake, phony, can’t speak without a teleprompter politics of Barak Hussein Obama.
Thanks Mike…well said….and I am too busy to answer the phone and be “polled”….but I will vote in November and you are CORRECT! A lot of us out here “clinging to our guns and religion” and working 40+ hours a week will not support a racist scumbag like Obama!

Posted by: Independent | September 28, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

OBAMA IS SUCH AN…. WELL LOOSER!!!
VOTE McCAIN/PALIN to keep our country from falling into the hands of a mad mad…named Obama.
IN 2004 KERRY was up as much as 12 points around this time…and lost…Obama is up 1.8% in the newest ZOGBY Poll, add the BRADLEY EFFECT, and Obama is already way behind!!!
McCAIN IS SURE TO WIN, AND WIN HUGE!!!!
OBAMA IS STILL A…. WASTE OF TIME!

Posted by: Larry | September 28, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

leave it to Obama to capitalize on ANYTHING for HIS OWN GAIN!!
puke retch…
this is why I unfortunately HAVE to vote MCcain. Character over issues!!

Posted by: annie no-bracelet Oakley | September 28, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

At least he didn’t ask to look at his teleprompter to remind him of the young man’s name….sad

Posted by: Captain America | September 28, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Someone wrote, “more veterans are democrats than republicans”
Please support that with ANY kind of evidence. That is simply not true by my own direct observations. I am a retired Navy veteran (21 years) and in retirement I interact with retired and active-duty military on a daily basis.
I would estimate that it is at least a 3:1, if not 4:1 or higher ratio, of Republicans to Democrats.

Posted by: Bob | September 28, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Whattim: You say that “most veterans are democrats”? I’d like to know what service you’re a veteran of… and sorry, the Peace Corps doesn’t count. Most veterans I know are either independent or admitted republicans, even if they hold socially progressive views.
That being said, I’d like to see if this story is completed before I comment positively or negatively.

Posted by: Mark G - Ohio | September 28, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

I would remind everyone that it was the Democratic National Committee that tried to disenfranchise the military voting absentee in Florida in the 2000 election when it looked like that would be the difference. Any organization with that history, can not possibly now claim they support the troops unless it is pure political expedience. Obama is the candidate of the left and a member of A.C.O.R.N., an organization already indited for nationwide voter fraud.

Posted by: George Jackson | September 28, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Liberals’ moms made the wrong ‘CHOICE’.

Posted by: Josephine | September 28, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

How could I possibly forget to mention–the supposed US “ecomonic disaster” portions of the debate…
Wall Street at times throughout its history never learned to play a bear market and is losing many people’s life’s savings while NY has the typical attorney general that investigates hicks with shovels…
Wall Street must be nothing much to the real economy as what numbers there actually add up. It is nice to have Wall Street, but even when it does not do well my favorite bookstores are still standing.

Posted by: In NYC | September 28, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Isn’t it time McCain does something else besides telling us he was a POW how many years ago….he is using the military to his advandage… wake up vets……

Posted by: concerned in AZ | September 28, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Rita: Obama has, according to you,”Jumped the shark ?” Huh ? Obama is jumped ahead 8 points in Gallup today. His numbers soared after the debate. He will be President. I know many Republicans who are voting for him because they don’t want Palin in there.
I can tell from your post that you are disappointed and rueful about the surge of Obama support, but tough, that’s life. And may the best man win. That would be Obama.

Posted by: Alison McHenry | September 28, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

What’s up with the “party of tolerance” and political correctness using the term “retard” to insult others? Since when is doing that ok again? Geez, I thought that got you guys all crazy? I remember how you kept blasting people about using phrases they’d heard and used all their lives (you did it too) until they felt ashamed if they let certain phrases escape from their mouths in public. Well, I guess it’s like I keep hearing…you so-called libs (read: leftists) HAVE lost your minds over the REAL PEOPLE the other side has nominated this time around, huh?

Posted by: breezinsc | September 28, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Easy solution:
LET THE TROOPS DECIDE WHO WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
That’ll shut up Obama et. al.

Posted by: BTinNYC | September 28, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

I was embarassed for the family when Obama had to look at the bracelet. I don’t know about you guys but I am an American first.No matter what and my husband served this country for 26 years and was in Iraq twice and was in Khobar towers when it was blown up. I have no respect for the democrats. They mock the very people who keep this country free. It was a ploy. Obama saw McCain had a bracelet at the convention.

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

I’m an iraq war vet and i’m voting Obama after campaigning for McCain twice.

Posted by: patrick | September 28, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

McCain: “Iv’e got a bracelet with a fallen soldiers name on it”
Obama: “Me too! Me too! See, and my braclet is better than your bracelet!”
How pathetic. And what’s even more pathetic is that nearly half of the voters in this country are just twisted enough to vote for this empty-headed little man-child!
God help and save us all.

Posted by: Dr. Tom | September 28, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

To breezinsc:
I didn’t say I was a Democrat. Don’t assume that everybody who supports Obama is a Dem. I voted for Reagan both times.

Posted by: Ironman | September 28, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

HEY “BTinNYC”
HEY “BTinNYC”
HEY “BTinNYC”
HEY “BTinNYC” YOU TOO MUST READ DRUDGE… how else would you know. I understand, you need to take a break from the LIBVERAL CNN, CBS, ABC, MSN news, to get the real, true stories sometimes, even if it hurts your little LIBERAL FEELINGS..LOOSER!!!

Posted by: Larry | September 28, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

What a non issue. Conservative witch hunt. The only issue is that an EX Husband got involved and is now gossiping hearsay. We know the mother was happy Obama acknowledged the Marine. This ex husband sounds like a loser.

Posted by: Determined in Nevada | September 28, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Barack Hussein Obama is the emptiest of empty suits. He’s like a huge pyramid scheme, scamming the people every step of the way. They could have put Obama in a drunken stupor up to the podium during the debates and the Obamabots would have said how smooth and on his game he was. There must be pods in the basement of every single one of the morons voting for this guy.

Posted by: Michigal | September 28, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

McCain does not support veterans. If he did, he would have voted in favor of the new GI bill. He was against it and didn’t show up to vote on it instead choosing to go to California for a fundraiser.
And when it passed, Bush got on tv and gave him credit for its passage. Just awful.

Posted by: cincyr | September 28, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

My Savior, The One, is WELL WORTHY of wearing any old war trinket!!!!!

Posted by: Latte Liberal | September 28, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

I have heard what is going on in Pa. ohio and MO. And he did the same thing in chicago to wgn radio.They has some people on that were anti Obama and he had people call in and tell them to take it off the air. He is getting away this and I have started emailing everyone in the media. Every article has the person who wrote it and there email address. I also emailed every one here at fox. It seems every one is looking the other way.

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Have you ever noticed when Obama turns on his BIG GRIN? It’s so phoney. (Like the picture ad on this page.) He doesn’t naturally smile that big. He’s a phoney, in that and much more important things.

Posted by: Emmie | September 28, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Many soldiers will go AWOL they will never follow Oblahblah–he is a TRAITOR. Many more Americans (there’s nearly $20Trillion offshore) will go offshore, underground, and black market; they will NOT pay his taxes. HIDE YOUR GUNS AND AMMO NOW he will be taking them. Obama will replace every judge and commander; there will be no more justice. I am leaving the USA if he is elected and I will watch it implode from afar, The world will be a more awful place without a stable America.

Posted by: My bracelet is bigger than yours | September 28, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

cincyr–McCain supported giving military personnel benefits, however he did not support the wording of it. Basically it was giving the same level of benefits to all military personnel regardless of status or time served. One year serve would get same benefits as 20 yrs service. People who serve more time in the military should be eligible to recieve more benefits, not the same as a new enlister.

Posted by: S Adams | September 28, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

I’ll be surprised if the story isn’t true. But, even if it’s not, Obama is still using the bracelet as a political ploy. He wears it when it suits him, and doesn’t wear it when it doesn’t.

Posted by: EyeDoc | September 28, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Alex Independent: I am NOT a Bush fan. But if you want BAD, you ain’t seen nothin’ till you see what the lying phoney Obama will do to this country. It will make Bush look like an angel.

Posted by: Emmie | September 28, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Amazing how the media has turned into a Liberal Pravda when it comes to anything that could be perceived negative regarding Obama it is never investigated and in some cases the exact opposite is true the media covers up for the campaign it is grossly unAmerican. Obama is a student of Saul Alinsky radicals methods. They will not argue their point they will shut down the opposition points using force if necessary. Before we get so wrapped up in the Obama hype we better ask ourselves as a nation if this Socialist utopia is really where we want to go. All this Change may mean the end of America as we know it and to some it seems that is not a bad thing.

Posted by: Tom | September 28, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

ABC should never have been permitted to publish this story. There is no value to this except to discredit our next president.
It only proves my point that the media is so obviously pro-McCain that we are the laughing stock of the world. We should follow the lead of the better countries who make sure that the stories published and broadcast are legitimate and of redeeming social-value. Perhaps next year the media will be held accountable to the people.

Posted by: Frances | September 28, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

DID YOU KNOW OBAMA WOULD NOT PASS A LOW LEVEL FBI OR CIA OR MILITARY CLEARANCE? YET HE WOULD BE PRIVVY TO THE HIGHEST SECURITY SECRETS IN THE LAND?

Posted by: My bracelet is bigger than yours | September 28, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

So, Obama is exploitive and McCain isn’t, although they are both doing the same thing?
Nice racism going in here as well. It’s called an education, perhaps you should find yourself one.

Posted by: ? | September 28, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Emmie
Obama is getting my vote and most of Americas this election…
mcCain is a stunt and palin is a joke !

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

McBama Sucks!

Posted by: Rick | September 28, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Why is saying what we think considered racism. Pretty soon Obama will not let us blog because we are telling the truth about him.

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

I have a candy bracelet that my daughter gave me!

Posted by: Rick | September 28, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

I think having a flag pin on one’s lapel is more demonstrative of where’s one’s allegiance lies.

Posted by: BearCreekMan | September 28, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

To most informed, intelligent readers this is a non-story that is only given life by the RNC and McCain desperation diry politics. An estranged husband’s comments of his wife’s feelings is hardly a true and accurate and credible report. Let’s presume the women has ehough intelligence and commonsense to issue a statement to the Obama campaign for no wearing of the bracelet to respect her perosnal wishes,if that is in fact the case.

Posted by: Aquinas | September 28, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

‘Francis’ said:”ABC should never have been permitted to publish this story. There is no value to this except to discredit our next president.”
Except when it’s a pro-Obama story – then it would have been just fine? And you wrote this comment with a straight face? Check your basement – there’s a pod in there.

Posted by: Michigal | September 28, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Obama cares about a fallen US soldier? You can’t be serious! He and his commie buddies like Murtha and Ayers hate the US military. I spent six years in the Vietnam War and I remember what they did when we came home. They want to turn the United States of America into the United Socialist Republics of America and they also want everyone to be dependent on the government and they want to be in charge of it. No matter how you look at it, that’s communism.

Posted by: willy39 | September 28, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

badger,
Racism is racism, no matter how you disguise it. Republicans (a well known fact – don’t think about denying it) are racists that makes what they say racist. Maybe you shouldn’t be allowed to spew your racist lies. The 1st Amendment does not cover hate speech and when there are some Justices on the Supreme Court that can actually read, you will learn that. Why don’t you take an opportunity to shut up before you have to told to?

Posted by: Frances | September 28, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

MCCAIN SAID HE’D NAME NAMES FOR PORK
IT DIDN’T TAKE LONG NOW DID IT?
OBAMA TRIED TO STICK ON $140BILLION TO HIS DISTRICT FOR CRIMINAL ACORN INSTEAD OF PAYING BACK TAXPAYERS.
MCCAIN HAD TO BEAT FEET TO DC TO STOP HIM AND SUSPEND HIS CAMPAIGN.
OBAMA IS A CORRUPT THUG.

Posted by: My bracelet is bigger than yours | September 28, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

I got a bracelet, too, John. It’s in a box with my flag pin. I put them on when Axelrod tell me. “What’s the name of that sucker Axelrod?? – write it down for me.” Never mind, his parents don’t want their son used for political gain. I don’t even know his name. I am “The Messiah”!!!
McCain/ Integrity!!!

Posted by: zig vietnam vet | September 28, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

The sad part about it is if Obama is elected we might not be able to do this.Everyone instead of sitting and talking about it start emailing everyone who sticks up for him and allows this to happen. I would like to believe we are a nation of fighters and we need to start fighting while we still can.

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Funny how you don’t mention that Sen. Obama couldn’t remember the name and had to look down and READ the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek.
Why is that?

Posted by: Evets | September 28, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

The Democrats hate the military and every election cycle they pretend they care. It’s disgusting. If Obama had any respect for the military, the Constitution or “the people” he would not avoid putting his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. He’s a dud.

Posted by: Kara | September 28, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

“I think having a flag pin on one’s lapel is more demonstrative of where’s one’s allegiance lies.”
Agree. Let us all remember that Obama pulled the American flag symbol off the tail of his Airfarce One plane and replaced it with his own little seal of approval. It’s amazing that he left GoodHousekeeping out of the decison making.

Posted by: MT | September 28, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

@ S Adams
So why didn’t McCain bother to vote on the GI bill? Why did Bush give McCain credit for the passage of the GI bill?
Bush said on tv, “The bill is a result of close collaboration between my administration and members of both parties on Capitol Hill. … I want to thank members who worked hard for the GI Bill expansion, especially Senators Webb and Warner, Graham, Burr, McCain.”
The only other Senator that didn’t show up to vote on the bill was Ted Kennedy who is battling brain cancer.
Bush originally said he would veto it, McCain didn’t show up to vote on it, but both ended up taking credit for it. That is simply wrong.

Posted by: cincyr | September 28, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

It’s funny how Barack Hussein Obama had to look down at his wrist during the debates to remember the soldiers name. That’s hope and change we can all believe in!

Posted by: JP | September 28, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Even if the family had said it was a ok. Obama still fumbled big time by forgetting the soldier’s name then having to look down and read it, it was a very bad moment for Obama.

Posted by: David | September 28, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

What about my daughter’s candy bracelet?

Posted by: Rick | September 28, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

I watched that debate and the contrast between the two is stark. Mr. Obama stumbled and couldn’t even remember the soldiers name with out looking down at the bracelet. Obama is a fake and a liar.

Posted by: Les in AZ | September 28, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Republicans are always trying to use a very solemn thing as a weapon. The mother of that soldier gave the bracelet to wear and that is her privilege and an honor for Sen. Obama just as the bracelet that John McCain wears from the mother of another of our fallen soldiers. The fact that both of these men wear these bracelets are not a testament to them , but a testament to the soldiers that died. Our family has suffered the ultimate sacrifice in this war and my aunt is a Gold Star Mother and My uncle a Gold Star Father. I think that the exploitation of both of these soldiers comes not from the men who wear them , but the jackals like the press, the surrogates that John McCain employs, and some on this blog. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Deaths of our soldiers bring different emotions from the families of the fallen as demonstrated by the different stories told by both of the candidates. However, like Senator Obama , I believe that no soldier dies in vain and the fact that he was able to put that into words and to lend a name to that belief is a wonderful thing. This another one of those issues that is not really an issue , but an attempt to distract from the real issues of this campaign. Shame on those that continue to use our soldiers as a bludgeon. They and their families deserve better.

Posted by: Gail Leach | September 28, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

The difference is McCain wears his like a shrunken head trophy, whereas Obama wears his as a reminder to stop the insanity.

Posted by: Doc Holiday | September 28, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Obama is the Manchurian candidate! He is a total fraud.

Posted by: Jorge | September 28, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Wait a minute – McCain was the one who started mentioning dead soldiers to advance his own pathetic campaign. Why is only Obama getting criticized?

Posted by: Andrew B | September 28, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

HE COULDN’T FIGURE OUT REV. WRIGHT WAS WRONG FOR 20 YEARS!
IF YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR AN EMPTY SUIT OBAMA PLEASE DO!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jesse | September 28, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

RIGHT ON Frances

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Wow. Finally the truth about Obama comes out in the press???? And all of his backers have to scream “racist” to deflect the light being shined in a unflattering way on their “hero” who can’t even remember the name of the soldier????? I was taken in by the press and their love affair with Obama…but no more. I am going with the choice of true leadership and willing to work with the parties….McCain Palin.
BTW….love how Biden talking in rural West Virginia saying he loves his barretta and Obama won’t mess with that. But a year ago in a debate, a video submitted by a msn listener had his guns with him, and asked if his “babies” would be protected….Biden questioned his mental health status, and said it was for the government to regulate that fire arms didn’t get into the hands of people who were crazy like this guy!!! Talk about guns and god when you are with the rural people…..and then something quite opposite when you are among the elite…..

Posted by: MoKnowsAll | September 28, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

The McCain campaign is getting more and more outrageous.
They painted Obama as an empty celebrity. Then they pulled out a real empty celebrity, Sarah Palin.
They said Palin’s family should be off-limits while they keep exploiting her family for their own gains.
They accused the media of being sexist while they are most sexist in trying to shield the woman candidate from legitimate media scrutiny that every male candidate has been going through.
And now exploiting a fallen soldier? Who did it first? John McCain! He at least did it twice — once during the debate, and once in the 60 Minutes Plus interview before the debate.
Give me a break.

Posted by: chris | September 28, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Asked by a reporter to point out which military plane was his plane, LBJ once said, “All of them.”
Barack Obama has the arrogance of the worst Presidential aspirants without the credentials of the least of them.
The fallen sergeant’s name was a mere prop for any statement Obama wished to make; I am reasonably sure that Obama will build a huge fitness center for veterans’ dogs and call it the Ryan Jopek Center if it will speed the process. Obama thinks nothing of the fallen soldiers; heck, unless they are registered Democrats, they are no longer eligible to vote.
If the ticket were reversed and it were Biden/Obama, I wouldn’t vote for them; but it would be more balanced.

Posted by: wymck | September 28, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Typical of obama ,disgusting.

Posted by: Ron. | September 28, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Imagine if Obama was white guy right now. I bet he would be way ahead in the polls. Hate to say it but if Obama loses I think it will be because of his race. This is not saying if you vote for Mccain you are racist. Just given the unpopularity of this current president you’d expect more people to want a different type of government than the polls now suggest.

Posted by: Tom Jones | September 28, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Hey Right Wingers. If you keep being so hypocritical you might lose the House, the Senate, the Presidency, and your own house.
Tell Mr. Hero to get off his own soapbox while you are at it.

Posted by: Mike | September 28, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

So McCain mntions it and its fine and Obama mentions it and he’s wrong? Perhaps some Republican hypocrite can explain that to us? Not that it matters, if Palin is allowed to appear on Thursday (and I STILL think they are working on an excuse to prevent this), those who haven’t yet figured out that she has the intellect of a box of hammers, will be forced to watch what will certainly be a train wreck. And on Nov. 5th, ‘Gidget & The Geezer’ will finally become what they were destined to be: A farcical footnote in the Republican history of greed and criminal negligence.

Posted by: Sig Jansen | September 28, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Matt was my friend, and I think he would be upset knowing McCain was using his name for political gain. I’m proud that McCain wears the bracelet that was given to him from Matt’s mother. What I don’t like though, is that McCain has mentioned the same story, and bracelet in two other speeches that I have seen. He always tells it the same way as though he’s practiced it a thousand times. I’m sorry, but he wasn’t at Matt’s funeral, and he did not know him. If he was there, he would know Matt did not like attention brought to him, especially when it came to the war in Iraq. I believe both Obama, and McCain honor the soldiers. However, in that setting it was clear McCain was using Matt, and was suggesting that Obama does not honor soldiers, so of course Obama is going to come back with “well, I have a bracelet too”. I don’t think Obama forgot his name. He probably didn’t expect to have to bring up that he wears a bracelet, and stumbled to find his words. I mean maybe he did forget, maybe he did not, who really knows? They both support the troops, they both wear bracelets, but I think McCain, and Obama should keep their bracelets under their sleeves for the next debate.

Posted by: Obama 08 | September 28, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Hey Obama o8 have you been talking to John Edward or something since I am sure Matt’s parents are not complaining why should you. How terrible you would make a statement about a fallen friend like that.

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

socialism is on the way ,obama wants you to send him your paycheck and he will send back what he doesn’t need, hahahaha

Posted by: tumbleweed | September 28, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Clintonette -
I would suggest you don’t vote based on a chain letter you got. Read about the candidates positions and form your own original thought.
That letter is full of half truths. It talks about adversity but fails to mention that Mccain divorced his ex after her accident and married into $100 million.
While obama worked for his wealth and while he “benefited” from his race to get him in harvard law he excelled there and became editor of the harvard law review. While Mccain was 5th from the bottom of his class at Yale.

Posted by: Ben Stevens | September 28, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

I also heard Obama was under investigation in chicago as well for misuse of funds.

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Obama is the final word in affirmative action candidates, No rules apply to him.Not even the norms of decency

Posted by: Danny | September 28, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Very intriguing if validated…however,
You report “I’m not sure what the reality is behind this story”
Yet, Drudge used a hyperlink tag-line, that basically establishes it as FACT.
“Family of Fallen Soldier Asked Obama Not to Wear Bracelet”
Irresponsible, and mis-leading.
You may wish to contact Drudge and have them correct this possibly intentional substantial abuse of your reporting.
For honesty from all sides of political issues…ExLibris

Posted by: ExLibris | September 28, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

If the family wishes are he does not use it, then he should not use it.
But, Obama never was much on honor or respect for others, why would he start now.
Obama uses anyone or anything to get what he wants. The man has no morals or scruples.
Obama’s Image and doing anything for a vote is the Obama way, Whether it is lying, using and abusing or manipulation. His entire campaign is riddles with vile, evil tactics. Which the media fails to highlight.
Shame on Obama

Posted by: seah | September 28, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

My family has been in this country since before the revolutionary war. A member of my family has fought in every major war and in many of the notable battles of those wars. I recently lost my uncle who survived the Normandy invasion — he was one of the 13 men who survived out of over 100 on Utah/Omaha beach. My father in law just died two weeks ago — he was a highly decorated fighter pilot who served in Viet Nam and was part of the Misty program whose squadron leader was Bud Day — a POW who was detained alongside Senator McCain. My family has a strong military history. When it came time for my 19 year old son to decide what to do with his future, my husband and I persuaded him not to serve time in the military because we are afraid that Obama will become president and that he, along with our Democratic controlled Congress, will put our men in uniform in serious jeopardy by trying to pull out of Iraq immediately. The Democrats have a strong hatred for the military which stretches back to the 60′s. They think only of themselves and what serves them best. I figure that we need our son here in the United States to help protect us when the civil war starts. We are afraid of what’s happening with this country and it will only be worse if the ignorant and apathetic electorate vote this junior senator, Barack Hussein Obama, into the most important job in the world. Pray hard and pray often that this doesn’t happen.

Posted by: Kimberly | September 28, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Rove isn’t working for the McCain campaign. I wish he were. McCain would be doing much better. Still, socialism is not the answer. I’d rather have a Clinton in the White House rather than the Obama-nation.

Posted by: Chris D. | September 28, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Either the electorate will wake up before the election, or they will maintain their arrogant self-important perspectives of the WORLD. Either way, on November 5th, the US will have exactly what it deserves.

Posted by: litmus0001 | September 28, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Jennifer, I think you should read again what I wrote.

Posted by: Obama 08 | September 28, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Hey Particular, BEND OVER AND SEE THE LIGHT. STUPID is written on your birth certificate is any week askterik KKK supporter should know. DON’T keep denying your heritage. Ask your heroine QUEEN PALIN if her grandbaby’s daddy will deny his child.

Posted by: Cheerleader | September 28, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Obama is a snake. He didn’t even remember the name of the soldier, he had to read it off the bracelet. Obama was trying to one up McCain and failed!
Then Obama declares war on Pakistan. Obama claims we were wrong on Iraq but he announces on national TV he would bomb Pakistan if they didn’t comply. Where are all the anti-war people now?

Posted by: Niki | September 28, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

QuiverDaddy I’m being hounded by a desperate OBamabot who has imped my former name and is posting racist troll spam to trigger reactions such as yours…I did not write that
the first racist post was not mine nor the second and any others
just because ACORN fraudulently registers voters is not a racist statement, and just because Obama uses police-state tactics to smack down naysayers, is also not racist
obamabots are desperate, the race card is all they have to protect their little Nazi

Posted by: mon bracelet est plus grand que le vôtre | September 28, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

The mother says she asked him to wear it, and was touched and pleased he mentioned it in the debate. Her EX-husband tells a different story. I believe the person who actually did it, what she is actually saying, rather than a story from her EX husband claiming she was lying.

Posted by: Susan | September 28, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

THIS IS A DISGRACE – ON OBAMA FOR WEARING THE BRACELET AGAINST THE FAMILY’S WISHES, AND THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA FOR REFUSING TO COVER THIS STORY. IF MCCAIN HAD FORGOTTEN THE NAME OF THE SOLDIER ON HIS BRACELET, IT WOULD HAVE MADE FRONT PAGE NEWS, IF MCCAIN HAD WORN A BRACELET AGAINST THE FAMILY’S WISHES IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WORLD WIDE MEDIA FEEDING FRENZY. THE MEDIA HYPOCRISY IS ASTOUNDING.

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

NOW, I AM GOING TO SWITCH MY VOTE TO SENATOR OBAMA. MCCAIN AND PALIN ARE THE BIGGEST PHONIES EVER. ESPECIALLY AFTER WATCHNG THE FRIDAY NIGHT DEBATE. MCCAIN IS AN VERY ANGRY LITTLE OLD MAN.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT IS BEING SAID ANYMORE.
MCCAIN IS AN ANGRY LITTLE MAN IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE.

Posted by: Jan | September 28, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

I don’t know what others saw that night of the debate but I did see a bracelet worn by McCain, he raised his coat sleeve to make it known.
Obama said he had one also but I never saw it even though he had some what pulled up the sleeve of his jacket. I had also heard a while ago that this lady had asked him not to wear the bracelet with her fallen son’s name on it.
What is it about liberals and their insincerity I dislike so much?
The government is not your friend, it is your employee.

Posted by: ONTIME | September 28, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

I sincerely hope nobody believes anything MY ex has to say about me. This is a non-story.

Posted by: Mike in KS | September 28, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

McC|ain whipped out the bracelet argument first, pulling heart strings and claiming he was there to help the soldiers; so, Obama had every right to point out that he also receives support from soldiers and their families, only they want the war to end. Which way is best for the soldiers? Definitely not the indefinite 100 years of John McCain…

Posted by: Jim | September 28, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Again Republicans wants to make distraction?
They are really pathetic to make anything an issue.
Only stupid people who already support Maccain will be persuaded.
But no intelligent people will buy this thing anymore.

Posted by: zen | September 28, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

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Posted by: Polter | September 28, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

I highly doubt that Sen. Obama would continue wearing the bracelet and mentioning the soldiers name if his family asked Obama not to. He has better judgment than that, unlike McCain who supported the Iraq war from the beginning and is so stubborn that he STILL supports an unjust war that the majority of Americans don’t. I do not want McCain representing me. OBAMA in ’08!!

Posted by: anhwashingtondc | September 28, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

Couple of question for you libs.
If a bunch of thugs came after you, who would defend you with every ounce of his/her strength. The answer is obvious.
Next question, where did a majority of the greedy wall street types get their degrees- Probably the same school as Obama
Intelligence is not a gage on how to run a country – Remember Pinky and the Brain

Posted by: bd | September 28, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Sorry Zen I am voting for McCain and guess what I am intelligent.

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

90% Bush + 9% Cheney + 1% Maverick + 0% Knowledge of the Economy = 100% John McCain.

Posted by: Jacob | September 28, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

First Repubs complain that he was not patriotic because he didn’t wear a flag lapel pin now they complain because he wears a fallen soldier braclet. Nitpicking because they know McCain doesn’t stand a chance without throwing assinine accusations around.

Posted by: avoter1 | September 28, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Obama would not have a snowball’s chance in hell if the mainstream media scrutinized him like they do the Republicans. He’s a crook and a marxist with a paper trail a mile long. Too bad that a brigade of investigative journalist won’t parachute into Chicago and show America the real Barack Hussien Obama. Even the comedy shows refuse to mock him. This guy is dangerous. Too bad we may have to find that out the hard way.

Posted by: Chris D. | September 28, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Appalled: Please enlighten to the fact that Obamabots spam flame posts and imp other posters to get just the reaction you’re having and to discredit the facts pertaining to Obama and his police state tactics he used in Missouri and Pennsylvania to smack down and arrest people who spoke out against him.

Posted by: mon bracelet est plus grand que le vôtre | September 28, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

The Republicans got upstaged on the bracelet story and now they are sucking an egg and trying to make Obama look bad.

Posted by: Bracelet Propaganda... | September 28, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

During the Republican convention a few weeks ago, I remember McCain introducing a family who’d lost a son in Iraq. His sister was there too. I remember when she opened her mouth, her teeth were visibly rotting out of her head – obviously she isn’t covered by any sort of health care, like every other industrialized country on the planet. Her brother died for America and America won’t fix her sister’s teeth. Ugh.

Posted by: Matt | September 28, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

I’m a Registered Democrat but I think it was a pretty crass moment by Obama.

Posted by: Frank | September 28, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

It would have been nice at the debate if Obama didn’t have to look at the bracelet to remember the name of the fallen soldier. I felt like it was an awkard moment, it felt contrived and I am an Obama supporter.

Posted by: CT MOMMA | September 28, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Wunderin’ why the only newspaper/TV that came up on Google was the Norristown PA Times Herald when I looked for MSM coverage of a Federal lawsuit now underway in Philadelphia District Court. The former state head of the PA Democrats has sued in Federal Court asking that Obama produce the vault (original) of his Hawaiian birth certificate in order to show he is a “natural born” US citizen required by the Constitution as eligibility for President. Obama’s lawyers answered Thursday the deadline) by not producing the certificate, but by asking for dismissal because the man filing the suit “has no standing” because he was not personally injured. All they had to do was show the judge the certificate and it would have been over. But the case is still in the Federal Court system and no MSM seem to know about it. For details go to americasright.com a blog run by a Philadelphia lawyer following the case.

Posted by: Justwunderin' | September 28, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

WHERE IS THE DENIAL FROM OBAMA. THIS STORY WAS POSTED THIS MORNING. IF A CALL WAS PUT IN TO OBAMA, WHY HASN’T HE DENIED THE ALLEGATION? WHY? BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE. THAT’S WHY. OBAMA SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!! THIS IS A DISGRACE

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

The ober patriots…. flag wavers…and unfortunately some very narrow minded veterans think only they have the corner on patriotism…and no one else can enter that sphere. This is tiresome…normal Americans are seeing through it!

Posted by: chetking | September 28, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

The battle of the bracelets was shameless during the debate. I don’t think either candidate needs to do such things. That said, McCain’s comments seemed just part of the script, Obama’s comments seemed like a “me too” scramble to respond.
By the way, what is it with the idiotic comments on this site? Many of them are not even coherent.

Posted by: Josh, NY | September 28, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

There have been more people murdered in Obama’s Chicago this year than soldiers killed in Iraq. Go figure.

Posted by: jtinca | September 28, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Hey matt do you not follow your canidate.Before he fixes problems in the USA he is going to fix the teeth of the poor people of the world. Do you not really listen to his speeches. I do and that is why I am voting for McCain. By the way how much in taxes are you democrats willing to pay.

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Chetking what is your idea of patriotism?

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Lee do you think abortions would evaporate if they were made illegal? Making drugs illegal did not make them go away. Should we ban all car ride and drivers license to all teenagers? I am sure you would have had a fit if you couldn’t drive at 16. Wouldn’t the money that was spent on Iraq have been better spent on things needed in this country? Eg roads, bailout?, schools to teach sex ed in schools so abortions would be limited. But 4000 deaths is a small price to pay for GWB blunders, right?

Posted by: avoter1 | September 28, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

In the debate Obama reminded me of a impatient teen trying to interrupt McCain by facial expression and waving his hand to get attention to himself. You could tell that McCain was irritated at this Childs play and interruption by a immature President contender.

Posted by: Barry | September 28, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

The politician who was asked NOT to wear it for political purposes says,”I have a bracelet, too.” Then that politician has to read the bracelet to remember the name on it. Why does it not surprise me that the Senator Barry ahhhh Obama is that politician???

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Jim just because his mother was an American does not make him American. He would have had to have been born on a military base overseas to still be an American. Or born here in the USA.

Posted by: badger | September 28, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Wouldn’t it be something if we all decided that BOTH of these candidates were guilty of the same thing (using soldiers’ deaths as political chess pieces), and voted for someone else?
Imagine the possibilities.

Posted by: Rob | September 28, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

What happened to civil discourse? McCain brings up his bracelet and talks about the fallen soldier whose name is on it to illustrate his “concern” for the fallen. Implication is that Obama doesn’t share that “concern”. So Obama points out that he too has a similar bracelet to let us all know that he too shares the same concern for the fallen men and women. What is the problem with that? Perhaps he stumbled because he wasn’t planning to talk about the bracelet he was wearing, but it was brought into the debate by McCain who has been trying to paint Obama as reckless in his desire to end the war in Iraq and refocus on Afghanistan. Does that not make sense in the context of the debate?

Posted by: George | September 28, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

During the debate, McCain seemed a little disoriented. I don’t think I am alone in wondering about his extreme age and mental sharpness.

Posted by: bill | September 28, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Obama was like a child about the bracelet – I have one too! Give me a break. He is a real phony. Did anyone actually see a bracelet? He is pathetic DON’T TRUST BO.

Posted by: Janet | September 28, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

hey guys, remember when gore was clearly ahead until election day in 2000 and kerry the same in 2004? what i can’t remember is what actually happened on those november days past… who won again? what did the voters and electoral college end up deciding?

Posted by: malk | September 28, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Perhaps you should read the story again. The EX husband of the woman who gave Obama the bracelet (who,it is implied, is a McCain supporter) has made the accusation against Obama. All we have heard directly from the mother is she was honored by Obama remembering her. Perhaps we should reserve judgment until we hear from her.

Posted by: stepper | September 28, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Badger, you are flat-out wrong. Any American, mother of father, who has his or her name on a baby’s birth certificate, can immediately produce the birth certificate and receive a U.S. passport for the child. A baby doesn’t have to be born on a military base. That’s ridiculous. Like what, some pregnant lady goes on vacation to England, has the baby in a British hospital and therefore can’t receive a birth certificate? That’s ridiculous, and like I said, I am telling you from persoanl experience. Both my children were born abroad, my wife is not American, but my children have U.S. passports, OF COURSE. Go teach someone else your bad information.

Posted by: Jim | September 28, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

All this ugly talk and finger pointing because Obama has a bracelet too. My God, so what if at the moment he needed to recall the soldiers name?
Once again, the right creates “mountains out of molehills”, which they seem to be able to do so easily in public discussions.
Respect, harmony, calm diversity of
opinions, minimize the “mud”? Lets all try and “cool it” and elect a president we can get behind regardless of all the negative campaign stuff?
We are Americans first, parties second I thought?

Posted by: Linda Reed | September 28, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Perhaps you should read the story again. The EX husband of the woman who gave Obama the bracelet (who,it is implied, is a McCain supporter) has made the accusation against Obama. All we have heard directly from the mother is she was honored by Obama remembering her. Perhaps we should reserve judgment until we hear from her.

Posted by: stepper | September 28, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

alan your right obama isn’t going to do what bush did. during bushes presidency there were 100,000 fewer abortions. during obamas, abortions will be available, even the partial birth variety, and possible obamas’ favorite, fourth trimester abortions, at any doctors office. doctors who refuse will of course have their licences removed.

Posted by: huey b | September 28, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Bracelet Debate

There is some debate currently about whether the family behind Barack Obama’s bracelet wanted him to mention it during his me, too moment in Friday’s debate. (See newsbusters and Jake Tapper).

Posted by: Conservative Musings | September 28, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

When you watch any republican political event, the chants of U.S.A, U.S.A, almost always break out. When you watch a democratic one, you almost never hear that show of patriotism. That might be part of the reason why democrats are seen as less patriotic.

Posted by: Chris | September 28, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

The fact that Senator Obama could not remember the name of Ryan David Jopek, the fallen soldier his bracelet commemorates, without reading it off the actual bracelet showed me, as a proud Veteran of Enduring Freedom, that he cares not for his memory. Today, silence speaks loudly in the major media. If McCain had committed the same gaff, today’s headlines would most likely read “McCain Forgets the Fallen”.

Posted by: mj mcclellan | September 28, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

While you all are trying to paint the husband as some kind of evil divorced man against his ex wife, let us not forget he is just as much a parent to his son as she was.

Posted by: PoliticalJules | September 28, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Just another con that attacks the messenger when they don’t like the message. Go back to Faux news and get your supposably ‘fair and balanced ‘ news. If you believe that lie I got a pres candidate for you: McCain.
GWB = Hoover clone

Posted by: avoter1 | September 28, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

The problem with this story is that Obama couldn’t even remember the soldiers name (at all) when he tried to reference it. He blubbered about having a bracelet given to him by a mother but he drew a blank on the soldiers name. I guess without a teleprompter it’s tough for Obama to shine?

Posted by: RobRonald | September 28, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Pathetic. I notice many of you see this as a non-issue. This is by itself, but Obama has a track record and this is just the latest in a long list of obamanations. Remove the Bracelet Barry and stop exploiting the fallen for political gain. Then again, this gives us something to talk about.

Posted by: NEPAConservative | September 28, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

For ReggieH and any other person who thinks that graduating fifth from the bottom of the class at the Naval Academy makes McCain stupid, just getting in proves that you are not stupid. Only the best get into the service academies. And even then some of them wash out. If you graduate at all, even last in your class, you are both intelligent and physically fit and ready to defend your country.

Posted by: old lady | September 28, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

i love how people talk about fox news like it’s the only biased news source. these are the same people who claim to listen to npr on the way to work every morning

Posted by: right | September 28, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Wall Street may be melting down and we are talking about this?

Posted by: Sandra | September 28, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Barack Obama is a creep, a slime and a phony!!! He MUST NOT be elected President… If you think Obama’s “truth squads” out in Missouri and in Pennsylvania are bad NOW during the election—just wait til he gets FULL power!!! Should scare the HELL out of EVERYONE!!!

Posted by: delaware Vol | September 28, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

It had been reported on another site that Obama’s campaign manager knew that John McCain would most likely be wearing a bracelet in honor of a fallen soldier, so they made Obama wear one too…just one little problem with that…just one little oversight – they obviously didn’t tell Obama who’s name was on it.

Posted by: KM | September 28, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

even with all the bickering here, at least we can all agree that mccain won the debate. no more comments necessary, this story is over.

Posted by: charlie | September 28, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

So Obama is exploiting the bracelet politically but McCain isn’t? Give me a break.
McCain brought it up first as a political exploitation. I doubt if Obama would have mentioned it.
McCain touts his POW status ad nauseum as though he was the only GI in Vietnam who sacrificed. Where does he get off believing he is the only candidate who should be permitted to speak of the military? I was in the military the same time McCain was there and most who were true heroes rarely talk about it.
McCain has attempted to live off his service record since he was released. It saved him from an indictment with the Keating 5.

Posted by: David G | September 28, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Marcus–very interesting, not surprised though, considering Obama’s got his “stop the smears” campaign going in full force. He’s also has the Gestepo police out in full force in Missouri and Pennsylvania.

Posted by: S Adams | September 28, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Here is your truth in reporting…
Anyone think you will see this news story on ANY of the major networks? How about BO’s involvement in all the corruption of ACORN and the Project Vote push that (even to this day) is still happening.
Nope not going to happen.
If BO gets elected it will be a reflection of the udder corruption and criminal state that our nation has fallen prey to. I cannot even bring it to be called ‘our nation’. It will truly be the obama nation.
How utterly and completely sad and scary.

Posted by: PoliticalJules | September 28, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Obama is a marxist. A vote for him is a vote against the United States of America. Rome fell from within…

Posted by: Franklin | September 28, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

OBAMA / BIDEN:
THE LEAST QUALIFIED PRESIDENTIAL TICKET IN AMERICAN HISTORY:
NO COMBINED EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE
NO COMBINED MILITARY EXPERIENCE
NO COMBINED BUSINESS EXPERIENCE

Posted by: Steve | September 28, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

To me and my friend, who watched:
McCain won the debate.
Period.
Stephanopolous has lost his objectivity. Can ABC throw him out?

Posted by: JKan | September 28, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

I agree with this statement below – he is using this family to make himself look good, as always.
“Barack Obama is a creep, a slime and a phony!!! He MUST NOT be elected President… If you think Obama’s “truth squads” out in Missouri and in Pennsylvania are bad NOW during the election—just wait til he gets FULL power!!! Should scare the HELL out of EVERYONE!!!”

Posted by: DR | September 28, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

bill adkins is socialist scum. he kills puppies and rapes unwed teen mothers.

Posted by: bill adkins nazi | September 28, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Julie said: “I’m afraid this old goot will kick before he gets sworn in if elected!”
Would that not be considered ageism?
Can we start screaming about the reason McCain not possibly getting elected is because of discrimination based on age?
I guess what is good for the goose is not good for the gander.

Posted by: PoliticalJules | September 28, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

ReggieH – Don’t show everyone your ignorance. Senator McCain GRADUATED from the U.S. Naval Academy. Just getting accepted is no small academic feat. Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft, never even graduated from college.
Also, now that you have raised the education ogre, do you think Senator Obama’s grandmother could afford sending him to Columbia and Harvard? I suggest you research who helped Senator Obama raise money for his Harvard Law School education.
Goodle “Obama & Khalid Al-Mansour” or “Obama & Ayers & Khalid Al-Mansour”
Maybe you should choose another criteria upon which to base your vote for President of the United States.

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Egobama’s”hey look at me,I ‘ve got a bracelet too”,was so juvinile.Then he has to check to see what the name was on the bracelet.McCain,even though he is almost twice Obama’s age, remembered the name on his bracelet.That is a big difference in attitude and respect of our troops in the field.McCain/Palin’08

Posted by: cincigal74 | September 28, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

WASILLA, Alaska — Though Sarah Palin depicts herself as a pit bull fighting good-old-boy politics, in her years as mayor she and her friends received special benefits more typical of small-town politics as usual, an Associated Press investigation shows.
When Palin needed to sell her house during her last year as Wasilla mayor, she got the city to sign off on a special zoning exception _ and did so without keeping a promise to remove a potential fire hazard.
She gladly accepted gifts from merchants: A free “awesome facial” she raved about in a thank-you note to a spa. The “absolutely gorgeous flowers” she received from a welding supply store. Even fresh salmon to take home.
She also stepped in to help friends or neighbors with City Hall dealings. She asked the City Council to add a friend to the list of speakers at a 2002 meeting _ and then the friend got up and asked them to give his radio station advertising business.
That year, records show, she tried to help a neighbor and political contributor fighting City Hall over his small lakeside development. Palin wanted the city to refund some of the man’s fees, but the city attorney told the mayor she didn’t have the authority.
Palin claims she has more executive experience than her opponent and the two presidential candidates, but most of those years were spent running a city with a population of less than 7,000.

Posted by: Alex Independent. | September 28, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

The future of our country is at stake!
Obama is against energy independence.
Obama was against drilling the OCS and nuclear/electric plants UNTIL he saw how many people are FOR it.
You just can’t trust Democrats, any of them, with this issue.
Senator Harry Reid injected a BAN ON OIL SHALE PRODUCTION into the bail-out plan. Shale oil is so abundant that we have more oil than Saudi Arabia in shale ALONE.
If you WANT our country to self-destruct vote for a Democrat. Democrats CAUSED this problem, all by themselves. They are NOT the party to solve it.
All the other stuff is just to keep you from seeing what is important to this country.

Posted by: Search4Truth | September 28, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

I for one am not worried about McCain’s old age and health when he gets elected. After all, Palin can take over with ease – she has the executive experience of running a household with 5 kids as well as the commander-in-chief of the metropolis of Wasilla. Plus, she looks good, too. Did you see the reaction she got from the prime minister of Pakistan? She will be a big hit in foreign relations!! With her sweet-talking the Pakistani PM, we can just waltz right into Waziristan and nab Bin Laden.

Posted by: No worries | September 28, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Sgt…who..oh yea…whats his name…he died….I guess he should have studied more….This story has multiple stupid people…the lady that gave an anti-American…Army hating socilist a braclet with her sons name…second the brain lacking Oblameus lacking the neurons to remember his name. I wonder how many people are going to pull the lever for BHO…..there really cannot be that many….America…hangs in the balance.

Posted by: Eugene Boyanton | September 28, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

He couldn’t even remember the soldiers name and had to fumble are around and stutter while he turn the bracelet so he could read the name off it……..

Posted by: Vet1973 | September 28, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

Another lie and decption by dictator BO. God bles USA and all th brave soldiers who fifht for this country.

Posted by: All is fine | September 28, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

No Worries said, “I for one am not worried about McCain’s old age and health when he gets elected. After all, Palin can take over with ease.”
THANKS FOR THE RINGING ENDORSEMENT! Pass this on to all your progressive friends, will ya. Oh never mind, you already did.
Thanks!!!

Posted by: PoliticalJules | September 28, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

It’s painfully obvious that the Republicans are once again USING the poor family of this fallen hero to their advantage. THEY are the ones being soulless here. Why can’t they just talk about the issues, instead of spending all their time trying to bash Obama? Obama’s such a gentleman.

Posted by: MM3 LaLone | September 28, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

WHY IS IT OK FOR McCAIN AND NOT FOR OBAMA? BECAUSE McCAIN ACTUALLY HAS THE PARENTS PERMISSION TO WEAR THE BRACELET, OBAMA DOES NOT!!!!

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Obama looked really bad at the debate when he said “I’ve got a bracelette too”… that was very petty and it made it seem like nothing more than a check on his resume… now to find out the mother doesn’t even want him wearing it really takes the cake.

Posted by: Up Yours Obama | September 28, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

I am currently serving in Iraq and I am so tired of the liberal media and the fact that they do not print the truth. Thomas Jefferson said that the only thing printed in the newspaper that you can believe are the ads. Whether this story is true of false, if you haven’t served in any of the services you have no clue what it is like… to include Senator Obama. Senator McCain “knows” what it is like to sacrifice and all of you should want him in office. If you don’t we will see war waged on our soil, in our own back yard. Have any of you considered that if you move us from Iraq in haste and we fight solely in Afghanistan it will embolden the terrorists once again, to the point that the war will be waged on our soil. The most important reason I continue to serve after 23 years is so we do not fight a war on our soil. I know what it is like and I do not want this to happen in our great country. We are doing good things over here and the Iraqi people are very appreciative of what we are doing. Someone needs to tell the truth instead of spinning it for political reasons.

Posted by: Mary | September 28, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Look, The ex-husband is an ex for a reason…I wouldn’t put any stock in what he has to say. If she doesn’t want him wearing it then she should speak out in public and not her EX on her behalf….Palin can tell you how messed up divorce situations can get…Can’t you miss troopergate!

Posted by: Roderick | September 28, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Is this the same one as the charm bracelet? What about Obama’s monkey locket in his pocket? During the debate his, “I’ve got one too!,” did not sound good. It certainly didn’t sound presidential. It did sound childish and petty.

Posted by: AC | September 28, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

It does not matter if Mr. McCain showed, and spoke of his bracelet, so long as the parents of this fallen soldier are ok with it.
Obviously, things have changed where Sgt. Jopeks parents are concerned, and that was expressed to Mr. Obama, who turned a deaf ear to it, and used it as a stepping stone to gain points.
Perhaps they both did, but Mr. McCain having a bond with the Military, as he was Military, would have a stronger bond, and reason for discussing it, than a man who’s chosen never to serve.
The bottom line is….Mrs.Jopek expressed to Mr. Obama not to use her sons name in this manner, and he ignored that request.

Posted by: Jeanie | September 28, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

“In February 2008, Ryan’s mother Tracy and his sister Jessica traveled to Green Bay and waited in the cold for 45 minutes to give Obama her son’s bracelet. A campaign staffer arranged it so they could meet him.
“I didn’t get to say what I wanted to say. I just cried,” Tracy Jopek told the newspaper. “It wasn’t for anything but for him to know this is real, something he needed to know. . . I do believe (the war) needs to end, but I believe it needs to be done very carefully and very thoughtfully.”
She said she was honored by Obama mentioning her son in his speech.
“I couldn’t believe it. It was such an honor, such an honor,” she said. “To know that he does know his name. It means a lot.”"

Posted by: Bill Adkins | September 28, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

I jake tapper really ralph reed in hiding?

Posted by: daylene | September 28, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Obama won the debate, because he was crisp, forceful and steady. He demonstrated class and knowledge of the issues. He’s a smart guy. McCain did fine too, but I don’t think answering by declaring you’re a “maverick” will cut it anymore. He used his stale lines that he’s been using in his stump speech, and they fell flat. If Obama used his same lines, you couldn’t tell. (Trying to be fair here…) McCain’s stories, which worked well at the Saddleback Forum didn’t work the same way here, because you’re supposed to engage with your opponent. Not to beat a dead horse, but he didn’t even look over at Obama. He seemed in a fog. To the guy who said Democrats don’t cheer USA, USA.. well, usually, it’s because people are protesting McCain when they break out in those chants. Haha. It’s not that we don’t love America. Are you that blind? I mean, come on people. This is sad. We all want the best for each other, we just don’t agree on the way to get there.

Posted by: Matt | September 28, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Obama won the debate, because he was crisp, forceful and steady. He demonstrated class and knowledge of the issues. He’s a smart guy. McCain did fine too, but I don’t think answering by declaring you’re a “maverick” will cut it anymore. He used his stale lines that he’s been using in his stump speech, and they fell flat. If Obama used his same lines, you couldn’t tell. (Trying to be fair here…) McCain’s stories, which worked well at the Saddleback Forum didn’t work the same way here, because you’re supposed to engage with your opponent. Not to beat a dead horse, but he didn’t even look over at Obama. He seemed in a fog. To the guy who said Democrats don’t cheer USA, USA.. well, usually, it’s because people are protesting McCain when they break out in those chants. Haha. It’s not that we don’t love America. Are you that blind? I mean, come on people. This is sad. We all want the best for each other, we just don’t agree on the way to get there.

Posted by: Matt | September 28, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

He didn’t fumble the name. He was about to say he got it from the soldier when he actually got it from the mother. He knew the soldier’s name the whole time.
But hey if you want to change facts to support your positions then more power to you. Perhaps you should join the McCain campaign. Their always looking for liars and spinsters given that their own choice for VP can’t even comment on the debate.
There’s a reason Obama is destroying McCain in every poll. He is the better candidate, Despite the fact that one of his friends was a bad person 35 years ago.
America needs character and intelligence. Not someone who has 13 cars and homes, was investigated for fraud with the Keating thing, and fnished 894/899 in the navy.

Posted by: james | September 28, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Does Jake Tapper care about the current predicament of average americans, like you and me?

Posted by: daylene | September 28, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

bho rarely mentions this bracelet. mccain needs it to bridge his POW story. since when does being a prisoner make you a leader. i think it scrambles your brain. evidenced by mccain

Posted by: pkb | September 28, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Roderick you must be a comedian because your post is too funny! Troopergate, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA. The trooper was never fired! HAHAHAHA My side hurts!
Oh and I feel for any divorced fathers that you have just impaled over the fence. He never divorced his son, and he has just as much right to make his wishes known. I hope the divorced fathers out there speak up and admonish people like you.
vote nobama in ’08

Posted by: PoliticalJules | September 28, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Does Jake Tapper have any non-innuendo material to invest into our county’s current situation?

Posted by: daylene | September 28, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

My dog is better than your dog, my dog is better than yours. My dog is better, because he eats Kennel Rations, my dog is better than your. Let’s drop the name calling.

Posted by: kevtop | September 28, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

I’m going to ask the question again. What happened to civil discourse? JOESIXPACK said at the end of his comment in favor of McCain——”filthy Democrat liars . . . scum of the earth . . . no redeeming qualities . . . cockroaches.” I guess I know where I stand in his eyes along with FDR, HST, and a few others the Republicans like to quote these days.

Posted by: George | September 28, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

The bracelet was given by the fallen soldier’s mother. The ex-husband does not speak for her. Despite his claim that he had email communications with her, that is HEARSAY, not respectable evidence. The mother is quoted on record in her own words how she feels about it. Just because some people in the press and partisans on the Internet are trying to politicize this and bully her into retracting her sentiments, doesn’t mean we should all jump to conclusions about what she truly thinks on this matter.

Posted by: J Clark, Corpus Christi, TX | September 28, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Roderick, that’s a presumptuous statement to make. We don’t know why they divorced, and should not speculate on that.
There are 2 parents here, and if his ex wife doesn’t agree with him on this, she can speak up…and hasn’t. That radio program was prior to this debate, and she hasn’t spoken up, that he is lying.
Mrs. Jopek should not have to speak out about this publically. This is an extremely persona issue for her, according to her ex husband, and for him as well. If she hasn’t spoken publically that her husband lied about her feelings on this, than we can assume it’s true, and she did contact Mr. Obama with that request…and he did not honor that request.
While I’m at it. Mr. Tapper….when are you, and ABC going to run the story about the law enforcement officials in Missouri, and the Governors public announcement about it? It’s on the Missouri Governments website..as to Governor Blunts comments on this issue, yet I haven’t seen word one about it in the news? Why is that?
Your career is steeped in our rights to free speech, and it’s obvious over the past several months, that Mr. Obama, and his campaign team are trying to strip us of this Constitutional right. I for one do not adhere to lies, but their tactics here, are atrocious, and for some reason, those in the Press, who use their freedom of speech rights every single day, turn a blind eye to so many of these tactics being used against American citizens. I just want to know………..why?

Posted by: Jeanie | September 28, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Please folks…McCain showed his bracelet off as a pre-scripted tactic, so of course he´d remember the fallen soldier´s name. Obama´s reply was intended to show that McCain doesn´t have a monopoly on the families of soldiers´ opinions about the war. He succeeded brilliantly. For the last time, the war was a mistake…it should never have happened. Bush and Company misled our military and Congress into war. Iraq had no WMDs, no links to Al Queda, and the cost is sinking our economy. If you think this war is worth losing yet another single US soldier´s life, then I suggest you enlist yourself and your son/daughter and head into the streets of Bagdad with your M16s. Somehow, I doubt that will happen.
Obama/Biden 08´ For a better world.

Posted by: George | September 28, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

ex husband can be spin doctors as well as the media. Next.

Posted by: nola | September 28, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

A barcelet??? What a stupid to discuss about. There are more relevant issues that this nation needs to tackle. I think that people should discuss the irrationality of Senator McCain, who decided to unilaterally suspend its campaign and requested a delay for the first debate. Who is John McCain? A referee adnd a player at the same time??He exposed arrogance to the highest level. His lack of rationality should be an alarming sign.

Posted by: AIB | September 28, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

You should check out how McCain has mentioned having a bracelet in two other speeches. They are almost word for word the same as the way he said it in the debate. He planned to mention it to make himself out to be this great guy who honors soldiers. I support our troops, and I don’t want to see any more of them die.

Posted by: Obama 08 | September 28, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Oh BOOO HOOOO WhAAAAAAAh!
All you progressives are now screaming and whining injustice of internet rumors.
Yah we all feel for you and we remember well the horrindous attacks on Palin and her family through internet rumors and photoshopped pictures.
Does it make it right? Absolutely not, but it sure is revealing to see the left sided BO supporters whining and crying when their messiah might look bad.
whaaaah whaaah whaaaah, oh puuuuleeeeseee!

Posted by: PoliticalJules | September 28, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

During next debate, will McCain tear off his shirt and show off old war scars and challenge Obama to top that? How low can it go?

Posted by: Rick_VT | September 28, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

why does Barack Obama insist on having the support of those who don’t support him? of the four thousand plus fatalities in Iraq, I’m sure at least one or two, maybe even three have family members that actually do, why pretend Sgt. Jopek and his family does, who actually don’t? it’s not hard, he’s got like $400,000,000; just run ads saying, “J Mac’s got a bracelet, and I don’t! someone with a bracelet, give me one! and I’ll give you $10,000,000 for it!” and claiming that Secretary Kissinger supported his plan over McCain’s… ridiculous! The only reason Barack Obama won the debate is because he made things up during the debate, and the only reason Barack Obama is winning the post-debate spin-game is because he’s got the money to pedal even more make-belief (e.g. “John McCain never said ‘Middle Class’ or ‘Working Class’,” when in fact, he made clear that he won’t support a hand-out that only benefits Wall Street at the detriment of Main Street, and yes, he said “Main Street”).

Posted by: Clintonite for McCain | September 28, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Obama was clearly playing politics with that bracelet, and what is worse,,,,HE HAD TO LOOK DOWN AT THE BRACELET FOR THE NAME. OBAMA = LOOOOOOOZER

Posted by: Badger | September 28, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

“He didn’t even remember the name of the soldier, he had to read it off the bracelet. Obama was trying to one up McCain and failed! ”
You didn’t even listen. If you note his pause it is because he is referencing the mother . My guess is the one McCain has the soldier is probably rolling in his grave that McCain is wearing it.
“Did he support the war and believe in his mission? Most soldiers in Iraq do, as is evidenced by the record retention rates.”
82% of the soldiers in Iraq believe Saddam caused 9-11, so the question is: believe what? The actual mission or the lies told to them by their dishonorable commanders and the neo cons?

Posted by: Chris E | September 28, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY. THE OBAMA “TRUTH SQUAD” MAY COME FOR YOU!!!!

Posted by: Steve | September 28, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

McCain was claerly using his bracelt for political purposes. the real fight her eis not over the names or even thr bracelets. the message form Obama was for McCain to *back off* from thinking that the military is only on McCain’s side. Itr is shameful the way that Bush, and McCain, have used Petraus’s name… but hey, their whole approach has been shameful….

Posted by: guava boy | September 28, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

What a BS story. You make it sound from the get go like the family is against this and you don’t even know. You put this BS up and this crap ends up on the Drudge Report. Totally irresponsible. You ought to at least check before you run this BS. If she is so adamant against it, ask her at the very least. You are asking her ex-husband? come on!!! what a hack job if i ever read one.

Posted by: Trenton | September 28, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

JClark…heresay would be if the ex husband heard from someone else that his exwife didn’t want their sons name used. He is claiming he heard this first hand. The radio interview was prior to the debate…as is the claim that his exwife asked Mr. Obama not to use her sons name. Now Mrs. Jopek has every right not to answer to this…and this really isn’t a partisan issue….this is about honoring a request. Until we hear more, we are simply speculating.
Someone posted this…name escapes me, and I apologize for that.
“How do we know that the mother who gave McCain her son’s bracelet said the exact words ‘verbatim’ that McCain used during the debate?”
We don’t know that. Again, that’s speculation, and I have searched for similar info on that, and have found none. This story about the Obama bracelet, just came out today. That’s why it is being discussed here now.

Posted by: Jeanie | September 28, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

If elected will Obama include the “Truth Squad” and the “Thought Police” in his Ministry of Vice and Virtue?

Posted by: Steve | September 28, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

No way!!!….Obama promised that women to never allow another women lives the same horror…But to fulfill his promise, he will take troops out of Iraq and will send them in Afganistan…This is not enough;;;HE WILL ATTACK PAKISTANI!!!!!!!HE IS CRAZY;;HE IS ANOTHER BUSH…..BUSH HAD WMD, OSAMA HAS OSAMA AS PRETEXT….

Posted by: Bledi | September 28, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

WATCH OUT FOR THE OBAMA TRUTH SQUAD.

Posted by: Steve | September 28, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Wow! 0bama insisted on using a fallen soldier as a political gimmick even after the family asked him to stop?
How shameful————————And what do think McCain brought his up for. Politics of course. Give me a break.

Posted by: CW | September 28, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Unhyphenated:
I DON’T HATE OBAMA. ANY GUY WITH “TRUTH SQUADS” IS SCARY.

Posted by: Steve | September 28, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Nice to run a story without directly speaking to the parties involved.
Excellent display of journalism skills Jake.

Posted by: LOL | September 28, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

hearsay…and pointless! Next!

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

This is a note to the people of Ohio. As I drove through our state this weekend, I noticed a very clear sign, as it pertains to the election. As i drove through the heart of Toledo, Lima, Piqua and Dayton, the areas of obvious neglect and lack of personal fortitude, were littered with Obama signs. The suburbs and rural areas were covered by McCain signs. It appears that the majority of support for Senator Obama, comes from individuals dependent on the government for their existence. The shops, gas stations and several other retail places are closed. The reasons for the closures are evident by the neighborhood. These locations and people will never discover the American dream, as long as they wait for the government to assist. This goes for both black and white. They need to get out, paint their house, clean up their yard and assist their neighbors. They need to obtain some pride in themselves and their children. They need to understand that the role of the government is to maintain our safety and infrastructure, not raise their kids. Senator Obama is playing to their ignorance, instead of their ability. They would benefit greatly with a hand up, not a handout. All of the people of Ohio need to ask themselves, do they see themselves as an Obama person or a McCain person. If you see yourself as an Obama person, you have to ask yourself why, and then begin to make some changes in your life.

Posted by: Tim | September 28, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Sounds to me thye Republicans are getting desperate after loosing the debate and with Palin’s debate coming up and with a debate on the economy coming up with Obama. Things do nor look so great for the GOP right now. So I guess I understand them reacing for any straw they can like Obamas bracelet.
McCain brought his up for political reasons and so Obama responded. So what.

Posted by: CW | September 28, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

i don’t think anyone is a racist. Just scared of others for no reason. in the same breath, that’s your problem and need not be others who know better. you would think Obama said – I will avenge slavery, but that’s just your conscience. Treat people as equals and you will be fine.

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

I’m taking a journalism class right now in college and it seems to me that this is a incomplete story that has not been fully researched by you, if it had you wouldn’t need ot “get back to us” with the rest of it.
Could you please refraim from posting a story until you’ve done all the necessary research and background, i.e. getting a comment from the chief subjects (the mother of the fallen son or the Obama campaign) of the story?
Bad form.
Clinton Henry

Posted by: Clinton Henry | September 28, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

This is so stupid and typical anymore.

Posted by: Sandra | September 28, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Today, radio talk said Palin is a turtle on a post. Why? Because that turtle was put on the post by a heartless passer-bye and now the tutle doesn’t know how to get down; it can’t fly, can’t jump and can’t hollar for help. And that heartless passer-bye could care less about a turle on a post!

Posted by: Doris | September 28, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Oh my gosh. I didnt spell a couple of words right in my last post. I guess Obama should bow out now as I am sure someone will bring up the bad spelling and try to make it sound like its Obama’s fault.

Posted by: CW | September 28, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Why is it no big deal that McCain doesn’t wear a flag pin. He did not wear won when he gave his speech at the Republican National Convention or during the debate. Why does only Obama has to wear a flag pin to prove he loves his country?
I am black and have two nephews and a brother in Iraq. I wish after listening to some of this junk and reading some of these posts, more blacks would consider leaving the military because no matter what you do, many Americans won’t see you as a patriot. Let the “true” patriots fight this war. Why go over the kill people who show you more respect than the folks at home. Black mothers and fathers, DO NOT let your children join the military. They will send them to die and if they survive will treat them as second-class citizens at home.

Posted by: merlisa | September 28, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Obama should not have used the bracelet as a come back to John McCains bracelet story, he did sound very childish. At least McCain had permission. The problem in this election is that half of America has somehow started to believe that words equal action and we have mistaken so called charisma for leadership. Obama has been given a free pass by the mainstream media, they refuse to report on important issues about him that America needs to know about.

Posted by: Ann | September 28, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

the family gave it to him, therefore he could use as he pleased. Obviously it was out of respect. It was also a message to those who think that soldiers are in lock step with mccain. it’s not so. when he improves his voting record – then he can speak of his defense of vets, especially this one. I would rather be politicized than deceased for no good reason.

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Obama would have been more credible in the debate referring to the bracelet that he wore had he been able to recall the soldier’s name without looking at the bracelet. It’s obvious that it means NOTHING to him, The military to him is a pawn to be used in pursuit of his political ambitions.

Posted by: Dennis Muldrew | September 28, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

“…No U.S. soldier ever dies in vain because they’re carrying out the missions of their commander in chief…” What an arrogant, grandiose comment. Does this apply to ALL commanders-in-chief or just Obama? I have donated to this man’s campaign, because I believe his voice needed to be heard. But, this comment is typical “spit on the Commander, support the troops” rhetoric. Now, I have heard his voice and his words do not ring true. This is false macho, this is the anti military left trying to sound military tough. What a phony. Brave men with Ronald Reagan’s legacy standing in front of you, providing a human shield, but not brave enough to join or do what it takes to preserve and protect their battlefield edge.

Posted by: jggrimm | September 28, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

I enjoyed reading Tim’s post. However I think that his view is the real blind idealism which affects some Americans. They don’t realize that the American dream is only that and although many of us become successful and achieve our aspirations, there are many in this country that will never get the chance to do these things. Not because they lack pride or are dependent on Government. What you get from welfare or other forms of subsidized aid is hardly something that makes you dependent. It is in fact the recognition that circumstance can put people into impoverished situations and it is actually better to preserve human dignity by balancing the richness of this country and at least allowing the few who leave welfare the opportunity of a better life. There is individualism and then there is selfisness and being lucky enough to have lived in every state in the union you see that often selfisness is justified as individualism and that is tragic. Changed the establishment from the bottom and you’ll get a real choice in politics but as it stands McCain will continue to neglect the reality of poverty and circumstance and America will continue to become more indebted to the world. Sad but true.

Posted by: David Vida | September 28, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Tim……
Thanks. I could not have said it better. Truth seekers will take what you wrote to heart. Ignorant fools will continue to be blinded by their folly.

Posted by: aaron | September 28, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

The audacity of the words of a progressive, “the family gave it to him, therefore he could use as he pleased.”
WRONG!
We would give him our tax dollars too, does that mean he can use them as he pleases?

Posted by: PoliticalJules | September 28, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

“Look, I have one, too!” should be a tag line for the Obama campaign.

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Ick! Republicans are going to go hide behind dead soldiers again. It’s all you got besides raising the “race” issue again. That will come back when McCain is 12 points down in polls next week?

Posted by: Pogyak | September 28, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Sen. Barack Obama’s weakest and most childish moment during the debate was when, immediately after Sen. John McCain’s moving story about his memorial bracelet, Barack spewed, “Well, I have a bracelet too!”. It was surreal. To me, it sums up Barack’s lack of tact and maturity to be President. He is just TOO eager and its incredibly self-centered and off-putting. The guy would not know “humble” if he stumbled over it in the dark. McCain 2008/Hillary 2012

Posted by: PhillyPaul | September 28, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

If I hear one more Republican say that the Democrats hate the military, I am going to scream. My father retired as a Major from the Army, my brother is a Chinook pilot with the Army and served in Mosul, and my husband is an interpreter for the Army, and also served in Bagdhad. I am a full fledged Democrat who supports Obama, mainly because McCain has been in the Senate for 26 years, and what has he done for the military and veterans? He uses his POW status to invoke people to feel sorry for him. Just because he was captured or even served in the military does not make him the best canidate for president. I am tired of the same old people making the same decisions and claiming they do more for our military and veterans. Hogwash. I am tired of people claiming Obama will be worse, when I know that he will do everything he can to prevent another Iraq. We should have never gone there, but thanks to the lies of Bush, my husband’s best friend was killed right in front of him, and he lost 19 other brothers before he was able to return home. I call him a cat, because he has already used about 6 of his 9 lives thanks to IEDs. We would still have Specialist Kenny Leisten from B Co 162 Infantry if he hadn’t been killed on July 28, 2004 in Taji, Iraq. Those of you who have not thought about where we might be if we had never allowed Bush to STEAL the presidency thanks to his friends and cronies, can kiss my butt – I am so sick of this war and all the issues that came with it. Give me back my country, I’m tired of these Repulican liars. I am praying just as hard for Obama to be elected, because I cannot take another year of Bush, oh I mean McCain.

Posted by: Amanda | September 28, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

The pathetic thing in all of this is that if Bush and McCain had Obama’s stance there would be no bracelets.
McCain needs to stop abusing the soldiers. He uses them and doesn’t care for them. He ranks in the bottom tier as a senator that supports veterans according to veterans groups.
Moreover, US soldiers abroad donate 5 times more money to Obama than McCain.

Posted by: Rob K. Charlotte, NC | September 28, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

The Democrats have a strong hatred for the military which stretches back to the 60′s. –Chris D
You’re so very right Chris, I’m retired military (22 years) and got to serve under 5 presidents. The Republicans always took care of the troops better (funding and pay) while the Dems seemed to loathe us. They’d still do all the ceremonial things they had to as Pres but usually cut funding and gave real small pay raises too. Jimmy Carter was the worst, he actually wanted to pull all troops out of Korea until congress stopped him, what a moron. Obama says he thought about serving and since there wasn’t a war he decided not to. Translation-He never had even a small inkling of serving, Bill Ayers wouldn’t have liked it.

Posted by: Tedinski | September 28, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Obama won’t know whether to surrender to al quida, russia or china.
Hard decisions await the O-man

Posted by: mec | September 28, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

This is all such silly nonsense. Who cares about a bracelet. None of this is important or illustrates the competence of the person we’re trying to choose for President. The incompetent, ridiculous American media obsesses about this garbage and once again chooses to focus on nonsense and foolishness while the country is going down the tubes. Then they prop up Barak O’Bama as the anointed one when he’s acutally the most unqualified candidate to run for President in the history of the country, all because silly, mindless individuals like Charles Gibson and Katie Couric are somehow experts in world affairs and are trotted on stage to ask their foolish questions! It’s embarassing!!!

Posted by: Tom | September 28, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Obama is not just tacky, he’s Democrat-Tacky, and that’s TACKY. McCain makes a legit statement, being a war-hero who suffered a lot himself, about his bracelet. Very genuine. But then we have Obama, never in a war, not even a uniform, who tries to “me-too” McCain like a little copy-cat kid with no class whatsoever. Sorry, Uhh-BumUhh you are so far out of your league with the military-bracelet thing, you are a tiny mouse next to a huge elephant. McCain stepped on you bigtime. Good. You do not support the troops (don’t say you support the troops, but not the war, BS on that, pal), never have, never will, and they all know it. McCain knows their pain, you are just a stain on American honor. Do go away soon, Uh-BumUHH.

Posted by: BOB | September 28, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Good point “Ralphie”! The arrogance and ego of Barack is mind-numbingly surreal. He is an actor, not a sincere politician. McCain may have not been as polished during the debate, but his authentic nature and sincerity more than made up for his lack of “style”. I dug John McCain’s down-to-earth, intelligent, common-sense approach to being a leader. This Democrat is voting Republican for the first time in his adult life. And I cannot wait! McCain 2008/Hillary 2012!!!

Posted by: PhillyPaul | September 28, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

This seems very silly to me.
Unless the mother who gave Obama the bracelet requests that he never mention the young man publicly, I will assume this is more ridiculous behavior on the part of conservatives and perhaps some disagreement between the two parents.
It’s pretty clear that not all military families support the war in Iraq or the ongoing rotations that have been so hard on these families.
McCain plays up his support for veteran, yet when the chips are down he has repeatedly voted against benefits for veterans. Those are the facts. Bracelet or no bracelet. Obama has been far more supportive of veterans issues in his time in the U.S. Senate.

Posted by: mary | September 28, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Obama once again exploits the situation. He has no moral decency at all and acts like a little kid. Well I have one too! Grow up Obama you are an embarrassment to our country!

Posted by: Harold | September 28, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

David Vida……
Well done!! Spoken like a true socialist. Just think if everyone looked at the glass as “half empty” like you do. We would be in the minor leagues like most of the rest of the world.
It doesn’t take anything more than imagination, drive, and perserverance to succeed in this country. Obama is selling the false premise of if you can’t do it yourself, we will do it for you. And the blind sheep out there are falling for it. Little do they know that even if Obama gets elected, they will still have to struggle to make it just as hard to make it as they always have.
I speak from experience as someone who, with only a high school education, has managed to reach every goal I have set for myself. None of it was rocket science. I just had a dream, made a plan, and executed it. It wasn’t always smooth, but here I am, 20 years into a great career, working 50-70hrs a week, and digging it. One thing money can’t buy is “drive.” It was probably the most important thing my family has passed on to me.
If the socialist democrats would just stop trying to fool all of these poor people into believing in their BS, and pushing a hard work ethic instead, we would be alot better off. Mandatory military service would be a start.
In the mean time, when/if Obama wins, and raises taxes through the ceiling to pay for all of his pie in the sky BS programs, I’ll be comfortable knowing that “I got mine, and that he will never be able to take it from me, even though he might get several hundred bucks more out of my pocket a month.
What’s a couple hundred when your bringing home 12K anyway…..!!!
SUCKERS
MCCAIN ’08

Posted by: aaron | September 28, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

The ability to change from the bottom is available. The state of Ohio spends millions on public education, including charter schools. However, the cycle of ignorance prevails. An individual is taught appropriate language in the schools. However, the language is not reinforced in the home, for whatever reason. An individual will never move forward, until he or she can properly link a noun and a verb. My case is made by the number of gramtical errors on these postings. Regardless of what the individual may be attempting to say, they are discounted as ignorant and uneducated. Please review the results of a poll taken by the seven largest newspapers in Ohio, published last Sunday. If only high school graduates were to vote, Mccain would receiver 61% of the vote in Ohio. When you have only college graduates voting, McCain would receive 67% of the vote in Ohio. One final interesting note, Obama received 98% of the black vote, while McCain received zero. I find it difficult to believe that not at least 1% of blacks in Ohio, could or would benefit under McCain, as president. The truth is that 98% of the blacks, have not read any of McCain’s proposals, that could benefit them or their community. They simply stay back and wait for the government to provide for them and their families.

Posted by: Tim | September 28, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Jake,
Is this story really relavant? Clearly it stokes the emotions of blog readers but is that the role ABC news wants to play?

Posted by: cj | September 28, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

OH, Yah. I will be proud to say:
No, Americans did NOT elect a War Hero.
No, Americans did NOT elect the govenor of the Largest state in the Union.
But, Americans elected a lawyer who could NEVER keep a real job for more than a few months.
I would be able to proudly say Americans elected a guy who took tax payer money to sue banks to try to force them to make loans to poor people even if they could NOT pay the loans back.
On the other hand Obama has contributed to something big, much of the $700,000,000,000.00 bail out resulted from his work as a community organizer and Senator.
Oh, Yah. If Obama is our next President we should all be proud of how the News Media has lied enough to fool us all.
The best part is we have just started to bail out investment firms on Wall Street. The banks and Credit Card companies are next. And that is where the real money is.
May God Help America.

Posted by: Reality Check | September 28, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Yeah Harold, Obama’s such an “embarassment” to our country that the entire time I’ve been living in Japan since he’ started his campaign I’ve had perfect strangers approaching me on the street and asking if I supported Obama. Funniest part? None of them can speak English but they can all say the word “change” and the phrase “Yay Obama!”
Get your facts straight, embarassment is not a fact, its a feeling that varies from person to person. I’m sure nobody knows McCain too well in that country or many others in a positive light.

Posted by: Jake | September 28, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

“No, Americans did NOT elect the govenor of the Largest state in the Union.”
Right wingers you should realize this claim(state by land area vs population) makes you look as goofy as when you claim proximity to Russia equals foreign policy experience.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 28, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Circle the country where a large percentage of the population wants the USA to surrender in Iraq and leave.
Egypt, Oman, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Pakistan, UAE, USA.

Posted by: Jd | September 28, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

It’s incredible how one’s view of this depends on which candidate you support. The cynical political use of yound dead soldiers and the pain caused to their families is nothing new.
But don’t kid yourself, McCain’s the guy who went down this road to attempt to make the case that he cares more about American solidiers than Obama does. Obama’s retort was necessary and effective, if not well-delivered. So don’t blame him if McCain classless “more patriotic than thou” arguments require exposing their cyncial foundations.

Posted by: Debater | September 28, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Still the facts. Obama has and always had, shady friends…which all boils down to the distribution of wealth.
He has he thugs in Ohio, Pa, and St. Louis, threatening radio station, tv stations, all with support of Democratic governors…..I know we are on the demise, but I think we still have freedom of speech here!

Posted by: Bobc | September 28, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Being military myself and serving on my 29th year I find offense that some republicans say Dem’s hate the military. That is just a big lie. I am Independent voting for Obama and yes a Dem. If the current administration and McCain because he loves Bush policies love the military so much. Then why start a war that needed not be started. Why plan so poorly that we go in with no exit plan. Why have our men and women spread so thin we cant even help those calling for help in Afg. There is so much I would love to say, but am limited because until Obama takes the White House, Bush is still Commander in Chief and my boss. Damn.

Posted by: CW | September 28, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

I have disdain for the peripheral analysis of individuals who do not comprehend the impact of poverty and racism. Granted it is difficult to convey. At the very least understand that no man benefits. It’s not enough to land a nice job or even hit the lottery. It’s a mentality. A condition where people become more of a danger to themselves than others. It is more than anything a pervasive sense of doom and a sense that no matter how hard I try those who are empowered, or those who look just like me, will suppress my ambitions. I know tons of minorities with master’s degrees that make $30k a year. If has nothing to do with not being qualified and it has nothing to do with lack of ambition. I get tired of people focusing on the negative and not accentuating the positive advances of African Americans. You try applying for a job that is beyond your reach many times before you can answer a single question. If you think we have come as far as many would like to believe all you need to do is follow this election. If a Black Harvard graduate is a thug what do you think the average minority experiences? Some will push on anyway through the politically hidden obstacles, because it has to be done. Some people grow weary of the abuse, and as so many of you pointed seem to do themselves more harm than good. If you are seriously baffled by the condition of blacks in America,then I’ll give you some advice. Take it or leave it. Instead of driving through and observing from what you perceive to be a safe distance, stop and engage the reality. And it would help if all Americans would simply be honest with themselves. Again – poverty and prejudice impact all Americans.

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

obama attempts to show concern where there is none. simply exploitation. he’s a creep.

Posted by: c. moore | September 28, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Sorry, guys, but as late as May, the mother wanted the story to be told. According to Mr Tapper here, the father told his tale “a month after” February.
Check out the link:

Posted by: tibor | September 28, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Obama’s “me too” grasp at respecting the fallen is as notewrothy as his little to no experience on any issue of importance to the American people. In uncertain times, America needs a leader, not a campaigner. America needs John McCain and his proven leadership.

Posted by: Bill in Arizona | September 28, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Obviously anyone who claims Obama was wrong to mention his bracelet must also say that McCain was equally wrong. They exactly did the same thing to make different points. And, by the way, Obama’s point was far more supportive of the troops.

Posted by: Peter Fisk | September 28, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Of course Obama will win, ACORN is signing up dead people, illegal aliens and fake names, as we speak.
I am sorry is some blacks are discriminated against, it is not like that in all parts of this Country…believe it or not!
Women too are “discriminated”, I faced that, and I survived!

Posted by: Bobc | September 28, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

McCain knows the pain of torture. Obama knows the pain of being stuck with a pin at the tailor where he gets his empty GQ suit fitted to a perfect tee. McCain knows the demanding nature of hard-ball politics with America’s enemies. Obama knows the demanding nature of fielding puff-ball questions from sycophantic media bimbos. McCain can form whole sentences without a teleprompter. Obama can speak some words, not necessarily in any logical semantic order, that somewhat resemble English (check out the vid YT ub stuff on “Obama w/o a teleprompter”—YIKES, GWB is Shakespeare compared to this guy).

Posted by: rik | September 28, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Political Jules… The military completed their mission by defeating Iraqi’s Army it’s not their job to build/create a democracy. And since you mentioned an “all volunteer force” are you familiar with the term “Stop Loss” that’s a back door draft which prevents soldiers from leaving when their contracts have expired… So if soldiers aren’t permitted to leave that’s not an all volunteer force. Plus this nation isn’t at war only our military and their families, the majority of American’s haven’t sacrificed a thing in support of this illegal war and occupation. HAVE YOU!!

Posted by: Martin | September 28, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Okay, Peter Fisk. The ex-husband has another title: the soldier’s FATHER. Don’t you get that? I’ll bet that, had the complaint been about McCain, you would have been all over it. McCain does not use the name of the soldier whose bracelet he wears, as a political football. Only a cheap, low-down fake like Obama uses people like that.

Posted by: AZdoc | September 28, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

80 percent of American disaproves of Bush and his administration. McCain supported 90 percent of Bush policies including the failed ones. McCain has showed horrible judgement on the war from the start. He also doesnt support Vets. Look at his voting record. McCain picked whats her name. Enough said.

Posted by: CW | September 28, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

Obama didn’t even remember his name. If you watch the moment in the debate, he had to check his notes.

Posted by: David | September 28, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

She was happy the first time Obama mentioned her son and showed the bracelet. The Milwaukee site, JS Online, reported in February:
Tracy Jopek was watching Obama’s speech Tuesday and had no idea he would mention her son. She said his speech hit just the right tone she was trying to send by giving him the bracelet. “I couldn’t believe it. It was such an honor, such an honor,” she said, her voice breaking. “To know that he does know his name. It means a lot.”
Then you have her ex who is a Mccain supporter saying something different.
Hmm…
If this story gets pushed she will be sure to point out all the hate mail and calls that she got from the crazy bully Mccain camp. In the end… odds are she will back Obama strongly. She is simply afraid of the Mccain crazy people.
This is not a good story for the right to be pushing. It will end up being a black eye for the McCain camp.

Posted by: lila | September 28, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

This has already been debunked. If the father’s comments are accurate, why did Tracy Jopek not make any mention of her objections during a May 10 interview with the Capitol Times of Madison?
“”I believe he will lead us in the right direction, he will tell us the truth and be upfront and honest with us,” says Jopek.
She continues to choke up when Obama mentions her Ryan on the campaign trail, as the presumptive Democratic nominee frequently does.
“To know that he does know his name,” Jopek says of the senator and her son. “It means a lot.”"

Posted by: note2self | September 28, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

The terrorists said, “I will use your Democracy, to end your Democracy.”
That says it all.

Posted by: Bobc | September 28, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

If Obama wanted to show his love of Nation and respect for our fallen heroes-He would not have had to think twice about wearing an American Flag pin. It is our Nations battle flag.

Posted by: Jd | September 28, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

The woman gave Obama the bracelet, not her ex-husband, if SHE wants it back, SHE should ask for it. For neo-cons and John McCain to try and make political mileage from her son’s death is what is shameful.

Posted by: JR | September 28, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Reality Check says is, “May God help America.” If I may add, “May God help America keep Obama from becoming President.”

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

OBAMA’S ACTIONS ARE DISGRACEFUL. EVEN IF IT WAS JUST THE FATHER WHO OBJECTED, THAT IS ENOUGH, THAT WAS HIS SON. IF HE DOESN’T WANT OBAMA WEARING HIS SON’S BRACELET OR USING HIS SON’S NAME, THEN OBAMA SHOULD HAVE THE DECENCY TO RESPECT THE FATHER’S WISHES. DISGRACEFUL!

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

I am so tired of these “human interest vignettes.”
Both parties use them, and they are becoming trite and cliche… “I remember meeting so-an-so, at such-and-such and he/she told me…. yadda, yadda, yadda.”
I listen to the talking heads from both parties… and I see them leading up to the vignette… and it makes me cringe.

Posted by: Walt | September 28, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Obamma Bin Biden!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!Now that I have your attention. Seriuosly. Neither Party is true to their word. Vote 3rd party! ANY 3rd party! Time to break the hold the 2 party system has on us!

Posted by: Bryon | September 28, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Tim said “My case is made by the number of gramtical errors on these postings. Regardless of what the individual may be attempting to say, they are discounted as ignorant and uneducated.”
Tim, your post should be included in this category. Besides your misspelling of “grammatical”, “they” is plural, but references “individual” which is singular.
What school did you graduate from? Should we discount your comment as “ignorant and uneducated”?

Posted by: English Teacher | September 28, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

This is a non-story. The big story is why did Paulson’s aides text Obama the Republican’s plans on the bailout, before he met at the White House?
Paulson is a Democrat, come to find out, some of his people have been texting Obama several things over time.
This is the story that needs more investigating and reported.
see blogs

Posted by: Bobc | September 28, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Why is Sen. McCain exploiting his POW experience?
It must have been a painful time for him, but it has little to do with current economic conditions, healthcare, and global warming.
Sen. McCain doesn’t get it at all, and even the Bush administration disagrees with him now.

Posted by: Rodham Democrat | September 28, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Why is Sen. McCain exploiting his POW experience?
It must have been a painful time for him, but it has little to do with current economic conditions, healthcare, and global warming.
Sen. McCain doesn’t get it at all, and even the Bush administration disagrees with him now.

Posted by: Rodham Democrat | September 28, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Frankly, the only thing that surprises me about this is that McCain isn’t claiming his bracelet was given to him by a VC prison guard while singing Christmas carols together.

Posted by: JR | September 28, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

And just how is it that Barry is going to bring us all together?

Posted by: Bob | September 28, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Why is Sen. McCain exploiting his POW experience?
It must have been a painful time for him, but it has little to do with current economic conditions, healthcare, and global warming.
Sen. McCain doesn’t get it at all, and even the Bush administration disagrees with him now.

Posted by: Rodham Democrat | September 28, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

The biggest problem with the Racism Industry is that it thrives on perpetuating the specter and the mindset of racism. It’s intended to make people hate someone else. To have jealousy and envy. Because without that, the Racism Industry would be out of business. The comment by SoWhat thinks that the fact that Obama is called a thug, even though he is a Harvard grad, is a result of racism. So I suppose the fact that Bush is called a thug (and a moron), even though he is a Harvard grad, is also a result of racism? No – of course – you’ll tell me it’s because it is true. Well, take off those racism goggles and maybe you’d see that it is Obama’s actions that have people upset. Not his skin. But with those goggles off, the Racism Industry is well on their way to losing another ardent supporter.

Posted by: ThatsWhat | September 28, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Obama’s inexperience and socialist big tax big government leanings are enough to cost him my vote during these uncertain economy but race should play no part in anyone’s decision . Any poster -for or against Obama- who references such issues in support or opposition to either candidate is stating that they think race-based actions are okay and is therefore a racist. Unfortunately reading these posts makes it clear that racism is alive and well among some decieved Democrats and Republicans, blacks and whites. I suppose all of us are selfish and race-based arguments and thoughts are just one ugly manifestation of that.

Posted by: mike | September 28, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

so it’s ok for McCain to tout about his bracelet, but not ok for Obama to explain that John’s not the only one who’s been given a bracelet? It’s just so typical of the Republicans. This is a double standard and hypocracy plain and simple.

Posted by: lkinopfl | September 28, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

The son is dead and shouldn’t have been killed for the sake of faked intelligence and D.C. Egos.

Posted by: Augie | September 28, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

New Obama campaign slogan: “I have one, too.”

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

The McCain camp is out of legs to stand on, they are on the wrong side of every major issue and some issues they have no plans. For the remaining 30 some odd days, the talks will be about bracelets, pigs, lipsticks, polar bears, the surge,etc. Nothing will be about a single issue we care about.
McCain is not a maverick, he is a bush sidekick and their time is about finished.

Posted by: Pete | September 28, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

I was at that rally when Tracy called Obama over and gave him the bracelet.She wanted him to wear it and told him to make sure that no mother would have to go through what she had.After Obama’s speech she came back over to her.She told him that he had moved her and he asked her if she was alright.It was a truly touching moment and not a dry eye within ear shot.
As for me it was an honor to meet the senator and shake his hand…..

Posted by: Lily | September 28, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Hey moron flag pin freaks -
Where is your outrage that McCain didn’t wear a flag pin during the debates?

Posted by: kcblogger | September 28, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

With all respect this story should not have been published until after you “heard back” from both parties. Just my opinion.

Posted by: chip | September 28, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

ThatsWhat …as I stated. Some people are in denial. I posted a “mirror” and you didn’t like what you saw. That’s a start.

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

That was embarrassing when Obama said “Me Too”, and then he couldn’t even remember the name without looking at the bracelet, the name of a solder he has supposedly been honoring by wearing his bracelet for months 24 hours 7 days a week, if that moment didn’t crystallize the insincerity of Obama’s words and cynical opportunistic nature I don’t know what will.

Posted by: sam | September 28, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

That was embarrassing when Obama said “Me Too”, and then he couldn’t even remember the name without looking at the bracelet, the name of a solder he has supposedly been honoring by wearing his bracelet for months 24 hours 7 days a week, if that moment didn’t crystallize the insincerity of Obama’s words and cynical opportunistic nature I don’t know what will.

Posted by: sam | September 28, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Since when has Obama ever given a crap about the Irak war, or its American soldiers there? I mean really, he was just there a couple of months ago and didn’t even have the courage or the decency to visit the wounded American soldiers, so instead, he goes and works out at the gym… look, as far as I’m concerned, Obama is a big fat fraud…

Posted by: saruman | September 28, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

FOR “SOWHAT”
Let me guess, you are the dude with a master’s degree and makes 30K a year?
Every person on this planet has their own set of obstacles, regardless of their background. You can either:
A. Feel sorry for yourself, and give up
B. Pull out all of the stops and bulldoze through your obstacles.
If one wants to succeed, then one will. You set your own limitations. If your mind is poisoned to believe that you are not in control of your destiny, then you are doomed. You can either accept your lot in life, or work hard to change it.
Please read, and heed, the Optimist’s Creed:
Promise yourself…
To be so strong that nothing can disturb your peace of mind
To talk health, happiness, and prosperity to every person you meet.
To make all of your friends feel that there is something in them.
To look at the sunny side of everything and make your optimism come true.
To think only the best, and to work for only the best, and to expect only the best.
To be just as enthusiastic about the success of others as you are about your own.
To forget the mistakes of the past, and press on to the greater acheivements of the future.
To wear a cheerful countenance at all times and give every living creature you meet a smile.
To give so much time to the improvement of yourself that you have no time to criticize others.
To be too large for worry, too noble for anger, too strong for fear, and to happy to permit the presecence of trouble.
TRY LIVING BY THESE WORDS. YOU MAY FIND IT IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO ACHEIVE ANYTHING AN D EVERYTHING YOU SET YOUR MIND TO.

Posted by: aaron | September 28, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

Fathers are parents, too. That’s just one more thing you Obama libs seem to gloss over.

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

My great uncle was a WWII veteran who died during the war. He has an American Legion Post named after him in deep South Louisiana. My brother-in-law just got back from his 2nd tour in Iraq and is preparing for his 3rd. God has blessed us to get him back each time and his name has been on our church prayer list each time he left for Iraq and his name will be when or if he has to leave on our prayer list again. I pray Obama gets elected and once elected that he start the reduction. Then hopefully, not only he but other men and women will not have to go back. My brother-in-law just like many of the other servicemen considers it an honor to fight on behalf of his country. But my heart hurts because he has two sons age 8 and 4 and a daughter age 2. The last time he left my nephew who was 6 at the time was heartbroken. But if he leaves next March, his brother and sister are older enough and they too will have their heartbroken. But too me, Obama’s statement to McCain was simply to say 1) people are dying 2) whether a Republican or a Democrat wears a bracelet doen’t matter – that person is gone 3) to wear a bracelet is an honor 4) Death does not care if you are a Republican or Democrat. What matters is that we do not place them in harms way unless it is for a cause that is just and righteous and not for greed or oil. The mom should be proud of her son and Obama should be proud to wear his bracelet but both should be angry that we are in this war because of lies, deceit and greed. Therefore, I pray we are as careful getting out as we were as careless getting in. A proud American who understands the value of a life.

Posted by: A pro-lifer. | September 28, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

btw..Bush graduated from Yale.

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

So she gave Obama a bracelot. She said she was honored when he spoke of her son’s sacrifice. Her ex-husband goes on the radio saying that she no longer wants him to wear it. You post up a story without asking either the mother or Obama for their side of the story? Excellent journalism once again Tapper. Kudos for writing this hit piece based on something you probably read on the Drudge Report.
Sincerely,
A Vet for Obama

Posted by: Sean | September 28, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Hey Jake Tapper could you do us all a favour, and please for once do a thorough investigation before you start spreading propaganda on the web. Are you working in favour of the public or the Republicans? I have not read not one negative story you have put out on McCain or should I say balanced.

Posted by: Chip | September 28, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Obama did not refer to McCain as Senator McCain… he refered to him as John… very disrespecful… do I sence a bit of anger because he is white? Watch and learn people… this is only the begining. Obama will destroy this country.

Posted by: Carmen | September 28, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Obama definitely lacked class throughout the debate when he was interrupting most of the time.
He seemed so uncomfortable knowing that he doesn’t know much about anything.He just read and said what he said in a very scripted, robotic way.
All he has going for him is the fact that he thinks that he is cool by dancing on talk shows, going to workout , and smoking cigarettes.
Biden has had two brain aneurysms…hmmm …me thinks that their health is not 100%..sound familiar?
McCain and Palin have the class and the knowledge and the passion for this country.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

THIS IS SUCH A NON-STORY. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT ABC WOULD EVEN PUT THIS OUT! BUT THEN, THERE ARE SUCH TRASH “SWIFT BOATERS” IN OUR SOCIETY, WHO WOULD STOOP TO ANYTHING TO DESTROY SOMEONE. THEY REACH, AND REACH, EVEN USE GUILT BY ASSOCIATION, IN THEIR QUEST TO DESTROY. LET’S MOVE ON! AMERICA, RIGHT NOW NEEDS GOOD UPRIGHT, DECENT PEOPLE, NOT TRASH!

Posted by: rene | September 28, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Obama knows the joy of being able to use his well-manicured, untested fingers to type. McCain knows the joy of having his fingers broken by the VC. Obama knows the joy of having Oprah heap lavish praise on him, worship him in front of millions, and cry over him at the convention. McCain knows the joy of hearing weepy Oprah declare she is “not political”. Obama knows the joy of being able to lift his arms above his head and shoot a 3-pointer. McCain knows the joy of having his arms broken by the VC,so that he cannot lift his arms above his head. Don’t worry, Senator McCain—those dolts on Rushmore couldn’t shoot 3-pointers, either. But they were the best presidents this nation ever had. Until Reagan, and now you, came along, “JOHN”. BTW, Obama—it’s Senator (soon to be PRESIDENT) MCCAIN, to you, dear sir, NOT “JOHN”. Your GQ suit, and incredibly poor etiquette, are a glaring mismatch. Want class? McCain has it, you do not. He walks, you talk (and talk). He has survived ordeals you never could have. He is the man, you are a squeaky pip.

Posted by: rik | September 28, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

I get the feeling that McCain has a lot of disdain for the average military person. He says he will help veterans but has voted over and over to cut back no veterans support.
Oh person below who says Obama is not a Christian because he doesn’t accept your version of the creed (and lots of Christians don’t) please be aware that Palin’s pastor doesn’t think Catholics, Eastern Orthodox and most protestants are Christians either!

Posted by: Truth101 | September 28, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

Obama again lies and manipulates to win votes. that is the change we need.NOT! This guy is a phony and a fake. He is so transparent what he did in the debate. “AH I GOT A BRACLET TOO”. What a candidate you libs got. He does not have an authentic bone in his body. Your messiah will lose in a landslide and you dems are worried as it is all exposed on this blog. NOBAMA’08.

Posted by: bill from Exton, PA | September 28, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Incredible! Obama is a me-now politico and he should win the election as it is always said the people elect the politicians they deserve. It will be a sad time for America. Nonetheless, wearing a fallen soldier’s bracelet against the wishes of the family is pretty low-class.

Posted by: Larry Myles | September 28, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Everyone can argue as much as they want about if Obama was or was not encouraged by the family of the fallen solder to make public their fallen son. The point I wish to come down harshly on Obama is:
If the ChosenOne truly cared about the name of the dead G.I. on his wrist. If he really cared, why could he NOT even bother to remember the name on his wrist? Hey Obama, are you reading this? His name is SERGEANT RYAN DAVID JOPEK …For Gods sake man! Try and remember this Hero’s name instead of using him as a thoughtless ‘me too’ political prop. Funny how the MEDIA went crazy when Bush senior glanced at his wristwatch for a split second, when he debated, yet when the ChosenOne has to look on his wrist to remember the name of someone he claims means something important to him…SLIENCE

Posted by: AMR | September 28, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Yet another non-story, Jake.

Posted by: BlueMax372 | September 28, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Obama looked skinny and angry in the debate… total classless and just plain bad. YIKES!!

Posted by: Ron | September 28, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Anyone seen the video on McCain by some of the swiftboat people now on the Pat Buchanan site? Looks like a lot of what he claims on his POW experienced are bogus!

Posted by: Wowie | September 28, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Jake has it wrong. Pbama said “i got a bracelet too, from Sargeant, uh, the mother of uh.
Why does Jake edit out the “uh’s”?

Posted by: Geevill | September 28, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

The same way that McCain has used his bracelet so did Obama. It was very fair in a debate. If it was shameful, it was shameful for McCain and Obama to use that.

Posted by: Ms. G | September 28, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Since this Country was formed, and never formed on socialism or marxism, when I hear people say CHANGE then want other people’s profits for themselves, I have to wonder why they haven’t already moved to Venezuela.

Posted by: Bobc | September 28, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Just out article:
“Soldier’s mother ecstatic about Obama’s bracelet”.
“Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.
She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes.
She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she says Obama’s mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier’s mother gave him a bracelet.
Jopek says Obama’s comment rightfully suggested there’s more than one viewpoint on the war.”

Posted by: Sandra | September 28, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Im convinced,after hearing all we have heard, in the negative, in regard to Obama, anyone voting for him is one of two things or a combination of both, that being stupid or stub-burn. What else could it possibly be? NOT READY TO LEAD (the USA)

Posted by: Carl | September 28, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

The comments by the father indicate that the mother is not unhappy with Obama using the bracelet or her son’s name, but instead that she is unhappy with the hateful response from the internet and the media. That would be McCain supporters victimizing this woman, not Obama.

Posted by: stella | September 28, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

I’ll give the mother a break since the was obviously upset. But can you imagine anyone in their right mind giving anything to Obama from a dead vet. Obama posts terrorist group that support him on his web site. His buddy IS a terrorist, and he’s from a party that has idiots like Reid & Murtha that claim defeat BEFOFRE we’re even done. I think Benedict Arnold could of been a Democrat and an Obama supporter.

Posted by: Jack | September 28, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Where is Mc Bush flag pin????
A lot of us have brtaclets and they mean a lot to us lets leave that out of this….

Posted by: indp voter | September 28, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Josef…
Obama neither hates the military, or war. If you listened to him at the debate, he’s all for it. He wants us back in Afghanistan, and Pakistan. Pakistan is our ally, but he’s seemingly ready to attack…and they have nuclear weapons technology.
If you believe this man is against war, you might want to do a tad more research. He is NOT against war, he is against the war in Iraq. Big difference.

Posted by: Jeanie | September 28, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

And to the pathetic Obama supporters trying to compare Obama’s cynical attempt to prove he understands what soldiers in uniform feel when he had to AHH, MMM and couldn’t even remember the dead solder’s name that he has been honoring my wearing his bracelet with John McCain who has worn the uniform for 22 years and has fought in battle and has given more to his country then a couple of empty gestures which even look emptier when ised without reference to any moral principle.

Posted by: tom | September 28, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

I really wonder how long it will take the Obama supporters to open their eyes. He doesn’t care about them, just their votes. He showed that again just in the past few days by not being in Washington to assist in this bailout crisis. Just heard they don’t even have enough possible Democrats on board with this bill. Obama has not showed leadership, he just said, “Call me.”

Posted by: HL | September 28, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Just out article:
Soldier’s Mother Ecstatic About Obama’s Bracelet
Apparently the mother said that she felt that Obama’s comment during the debate was appropriate.
So I guess there is no there there.

Posted by: Sandra | September 28, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Article out just now saying that the mother said that what Obama said during the debate was appropriate and she welcomed it.

Posted by: Sandra | September 28, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

I believe this is just a dispute between a divorced couple who didn’t agree on their son going to war in Iraq. Possibly, causing their divorce when their son was killed, because it’s a case of I told you so. Obama is an honorable man, and his only intention is to wear the braclet to honor the fallen soldier, for his mother’s request, and nothing more, or less.

Posted by: jms55 | September 28, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

I actually think the bigger issue is the fact that Obama had clearly forgotten his name during the debate, and had to do a double-take to check his bracelet.

Posted by: professorx | September 28, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Tim ,I coould not have said it better

Posted by: sarah mast | September 28, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

Stella said: The comments by the father indicate that the mother is not unhappy with Obama using the bracelet or her son’s name, but instead that she is unhappy with the hateful response from the internet and the media. That would be McCain supporters victimizing this woman, not Obama.
I agree. IF that is what’s going on, it’s wrong, and it needs to stop. I didn’t lose a child to war, but I have lost a child. The pain of that never ever goes away, and this woman needs to be left alone, to grieve in her own way.
But I would remind people of this…
My brother did 4 years in the Air Force, and now, he spends some of his spare time, attending the funerals of the fallen soldiers, because of the atrocity some seem to deem suitable, by ccrashing the grave side prayers, that are for family and friends of the deceased, and do their protests. My brother goes with others like himself, who did Military time, to encircle the families, and protect them from this. This is the reality, and it’s sad. Both sides are allowed their opinions, and convictions, but to attack those in their time of grief, is shameful and wrong,no matter how much you are for, or oppose the war.

Posted by: Jeanie | September 28, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

“To know that he does know his name. It means a lot.”
How does she feel now that Obama did not know her son’s name in front of millions of viewers?

Posted by: geevill | September 28, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Okay Obama fans out there…get your hard heads out of the sand (to say it nicely)and do your homework.
ANYONE who thinks that Obama should be president either is totally in blissful ignorance or…totally in blissful ignorance.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

At least McCain remembered the name of the soldier who gave him the bracelet. Obama stumbled, paused and had to look down to see if he was wearing the bracelet AND if the name was written on it. Here is the part right here quoted in this article: “from Sergeant – from the mother of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek”.

Posted by: Concerned | September 28, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

A pro-lifer—————-Great post. Being one year from retirement and serving my 29th year I can assure you that the men and women of our armed forces are proud. Many support McCain, but many, like myself will support Obama. When a young man or woman’s life isnt important as the Presidents personal agenda we have a problem. It still eats at me today that we didnt go into Afg and kill or capture Bin Laden and win in Afg before going after Iraq
or anyone else. Now Afg needs our help and because of poor planning and a failed administration we cant even support our troops there. McCain lives in the past. I respect him greatly for his service to the country but will not help put him in the white house. The world needs peace and we need to be respected again. McCain would be just four more years. Obama says deplomacy and has the brains and communication skills to use it. Young Americans blood should not be used so lightly and with such unwise decisions. A strong and ready to use military is a great thing, but it needs to have a leader that uses it only after all else fails including deplomacy. When Reagan and Kennedy sat in the white house our military might was world known and respected. We as a country were respected around the world and deplomacy saved us from a war and brough the Berlin wall down. McCain doesnt have the brains nor communication skills for real deplomacy.
Please support our troops and looking forward to the Obama administration.

Posted by: CW | September 28, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

I have enough of an income to expect a tax increase under Obama’s tax plan. Did you get that?
I am by any standard, except a blind one, a high achiever.
I attended the same prep schools as some of this nation’s Presidents.
I have three degrees – two from Ivy league schools.
I have served with honor and distinction in this nation’s military.
I am single and have three children that I raise on my own.
Nevertheless – it does not escape me that hard work is not the only necessity for achievement. That is naive and unrealistic. Just ask professional women. When I stop reading inquiries regarding the ethical makeup of an AA running for POTUS, when under no other circumstance it would not be part of any discussion, then I might surrender the way that I feel. Right now I feel reality. I would and do encourage all minorities to “press on” despite the obstacles, but I am a long way from embracing the sentiments of those who seem to feel that such conditions are a result of mass laziness or attempt for improvement. I’m not making excuses by any means just stating reality.

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

How pathetic some of americans are!!!!
Honestly, after 8 years, many still haven’t learned their lessons. And if you vote for mccain, you deserve the horrible economy, large gap between rich and poor, and more years of war. I think the world is watching you digging yourselves deeper and deeper into bad economy, more homeless people, and of course fewer of mccain likes. Pathetic!!!!

Posted by: S | September 28, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Another example of Obama proving that he’s a jerk who will exploit anything to advance his sorry life.

Posted by: Kim Estrada | September 28, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Yet another cheap tactic from Senator Obama that validates my decision to vote for McCain this fall- my first ever vote for a Republican ever- even for a dog catcher.
I am a proud DNC card carrying Democrat who has only voted Dem ever, but not this time. In these perilous times here at home and abroad, I cannot in good conscience vote for an arrogant rookie like Sen. Obama.

Posted by: American voter | September 28, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Sandra
Brian Jopek, in a radio interview, says his wife gave Obama the bracelet because “she just wanted Mr. Obama to know Ryan’s name.” Jopek went on to say that “she wasn’t looking to turn it into a big media event” and “just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself.”

Posted by: HL | September 28, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Gee, here in Ohio Kerry did the same thing…his staff asked Byrl the mother of a fallen hereo to attend his campan speech her at Perry High school…she said she would come up on stage with him if she could ask him in private. no caneras about the “for I was against/ was for statement” he dis-invited her. It was weird to her cause 2 weeks before Bush came to town. Met with her privately, no press or anyone else. He spent 15 min with her and never even asked for her support or asked her to even attend the event later. She then the next week supported Bush. Dems only use hereos for political gain or they bank roll some to run as Democrats in Congress.

Posted by: Diane Binder | September 28, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

CW I have the most love and respect for the men and women in the military, but did you watch the debate where Obama said he was sending more troops to Afghanistan and maybe even Pakistan?
Obama said first he was going to bring the troops home, but now he is sending them to Afgh & Pak?

Posted by: Carmen | September 28, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

McCain is bipartisan and is the most open minded candidate so that the issues that need to be improved can be improved whether it be a “Democratic resolution” or a “Republican resolution”.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

The story is basically that… “a tiny portion of extreme conservatives don’t think Obama should wear a bracelet honoring troops”. Who cares?! There are crazies on both sides of the aisle… but less than 40 days until the election is not the time to be talking about them. Its time to talk about substantive issues that will affect all Americans… come on Jake!

Posted by: Blake | September 28, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

CW, Do you mean Obama has the brains and communication skills to use diplomacy or to be an appeaser. There is a difference.
Bush may have mess up a bit on Iraq but we were already paying Billions per year to patrol the northern and southern no fly zones. I’m not going to rehash everything, but the Democrats supported these wars and they should not get a pass like you are willing to give them.
As far as Barry Obama having good communication skills we’ll just have to disagree on that point. Wait is that with teleprompter or without ?

Posted by: NEPAConservative | September 28, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Why do we have such envious people now?
I am far from rich, none in my family are rich and yes we struggle to pay bills, but do I want other’s profits?
NO I do not. Of course these Wall street guys get paid too much, but so do those Hollywoodies, and sports players.
I guess I just do not understand why we have so many people that are so jealous of the rich.

Posted by: Bobc | September 28, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

I am glad the correction to the false Republican generated story has appeared with the mother saying she was delighted to have her son’s name mentioned. It is lying season, as usual , for the Republicans, and great they were caught so quickly.

Posted by: suzanne f | September 28, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Obama couldn’t even remember the soldiers name.
That is the real story here.
stop trying to change the subject.

Posted by: fdsafdsa | September 28, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

To those who claim the “me-to” bracelet incident is a petty thing to raise in critiquing Obama are dead wrong.
It says more than a lot. It says it all. It encapsulates, in one quick take, the entirety of the person who is Obama. The man must be kept out of the Oval Office.

Posted by: Ted | September 28, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

* THIS POST WAS UPDATED WITH THE AP REPORT ON TRACY JOPEK.
– jpt
She said she was “ecstatic” that Obama mentioned her son’s hero bracelet during Friday’s debate. That’s because he was responding to McCain citing a different griveing mother’s hero bracelet as a way to back his political views of the war in Iraq and citing the bracelet she’d given Obama was a good and appropriate way to remind people there are different views on this issue.
– jpt

Posted by: Truth Matters | September 28, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Seriously, think deeply and ask yourself if Obama’s comment about “I have a bracelet too” didn’t seem childish, immature, condencensing and totally phony?
“I have one too!”

Posted by: Carmen | September 28, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

The MOTHER is GLAD Obama mentioned her son.
She is upset with people like YOU who are trying to twist it around to make her gift to Obama something ugly — YOU are the ones doing the creepy thing you are trying to accuse Obama of.
That’s a sin. Stop it.

Posted by: bkam | September 28, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

This story is not accurate.

Posted by: dad | September 28, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Well time to find another blog topic, I think this one’s played out.
Obama/Biden 2008 — Restore our World Image

Posted by: Josef S | September 28, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Obama is going to send troops to Afghanistan and Pakistan, but you said you were voting for him to get out of Iraq. What’s your point? He is still sending our children into war…
Obama… “No change… just lies”

Posted by: Carmen | September 28, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Bobc, it has nothing to do with being jealous of rich people. Far from it. The only thing people are concerned about is that when regular people like you and me are working and are paying much much more proportionally in taxes than someone making $5 Million a year, that’s not right. The economy is not an easy issue to understand… so don’t make the mistake of oversimplifying it. Also, you mentioned those hollywood people who are rich… well they’re taxes will go up too.

Posted by: Blake | September 28, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Wow…first of all, Obama’s incompetence has nothing to do with his color or national origin’s. It does however exist. I am the same age as Obama and have 10 times the life experience starting with the military through building and operating my own business to more public service. I speak two languages fluently and several partially. The only thing Obama has ever done is run for office and frankly if he didn’t have the staff that he does Hillary would be on the ticket. The man simply doesn’t have the goods and never will. Both parties need to give us better candidates and I recommend you find them from among the citizens who are not politicians. Either way, many of you dimwits wouldn’t know a good choice if you saw it. And don’t compare Obama to McCain. McCain has more experience whether you like his politics or not. Hands down he is going to be better. Problem is he is still a politician. I say we limit service in any area of elected federal govt to two terms and thats it, total no more. Do away with the retirement and the perks and maybe, just maybe we can get altruistic servants in office who would do the job for two terms and go the hell home. This way, if a knucklehead like Obama will learn how to feed himself and not get the idea that it’s the govt’s job to do it.
Long live the United States of America.

Posted by: j.goslin | September 28, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

My good heavens,how can this man Obama, be so dispicable,uncaring, struts around like hood rooster, wearing a bracelet and using a fallen American precious blood as a political gimmick, I just do not have words to explain this terrible thing. I pray that all Vets do something to speak up and embarrase him…(PLEASE……

Posted by: OMGptl | September 28, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Michelle Malkin is cussing as we speak. She lost another lie to the truth. And even RedState is mad at McCain.
Meltdown!
Red Alert!

Posted by: kravitz | September 28, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

bkam, but the father isn’t… it takes two to make and raise a child don’t you think? Or does the father have no right?

Posted by: Carmen | September 28, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Rich people & taxes:
Then close all the loopholes!

Posted by: Bobc | September 28, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Mother would be more ecstatic if Senator Obama remembered her son’s name. Father would be ecstatic if Senator Obama didn’t use his son’s name to sham the American people. Obama the hypocrite.

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

Carmen,
Make no mistake about it. Obama has said it over and over, he is not opposed to all wars… he is opposed to “dumb wars”. (ie. Iraq).

Posted by: CW's fill-in | September 28, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

First, it does appear to be true because before the debate the issue stood with the mother’s request not to use his name and that is now confirmed. It is only after the fact that she said she was ecstatic (probably after some Dem staffers got to her first). To call it not true that this was against the family’s wishes is WRONG. If I ask you not to put all my money on black but you hit it, I would be ecstatic but it would still have been against my wishes.
Second, you don’t do justice to Obama’s performance. You missed his stumbles and most importantly the fact that he did not remember the kid’s name, but had to look down at his wrist to remember. You wouldn’t have omitted a juicy tidbit like that if it were the other way around.

Posted by: roger rainey | September 28, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

It is somewhat common knowledge that members of the military vote more for Republicans but that is changing this election. I have never seen more Republican members of the military saying they are voting for Obama because they are sick Bush and feel McCain would be the same. Vote Obama and keep our soldiers safe.

Posted by: Iraq soldier | September 28, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

If Obama had the HONESTY, INTEGRITY and the experience and knowledge to improve this country…great…but he doesn’t. I don’t care if he is blue, indigo, turquoise or amethyst etc. etc….he is not to be trusted with responsibility of being the president.
He lacks everything there needs to be to lead this country. Okay, he might mean well and yes, he does say all the things he is told to say like a good puppet even if he interrupts all the time, ums and uhs all the time and forgets the name of the fallen soldier’s name on the bracelet.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

PoliticalJules… Please stop with the generalization “Typical BO Support” actually my opinion is based on my perceptions. We went to war on false pretenses, companies have profited and no one has been held accountable, but military families are feeling the brunt of this war.

Posted by: Martin | September 28, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

You guys saying Obama’s “me too” is childish – how about noticing that McCain is USING SOLDIERS in his speeches – saying he has a bracelet in the first place was a POLITICAL PLOY to get a sympathetic vote.
Mrs. Jopek was honoured Senator Obama mentioned her son’s name. She is divorced from her husband. The messages coming from the soldier’s “family” are not unified – get it? ex-Husband is for McCain. ex-Wife is for Obama.

Posted by: beap | September 28, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Reading comments on this article has suddenly allowed me to realize how we elected Bush twice.
Its also a credit to our horrible education system.
Maybe Republicans don’t want to fix the education system because then people would be too smart to vote for them.

Posted by: what is american anymore | September 28, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Mom was estactic that Obama mentioned her son…END OF STORY.
The real story is that McCain says he supports the troops but constantly votes against bills that would improve life for them…
Why not investigate that one?

Posted by: Kelly | September 28, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Open your eyes…
McCain is FAR from being another Bush. He is his own person with all the qualities this country needs in a leader.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

I noticed that john mccain knew the name of the soldier on his wrist band
Obama had to look at his and read the name
If you dont believe me watch the video

Posted by: john | September 28, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

You could tell that the soldier whose bracelet McCain was wearing really meant something to McCain. Why, he even remembered his name. Obama? Well, he just had to copy McCain, but unfortunately for Obama and the man’s surviving family, Obama could barely even “uh, uh” remember the man’s name. How embarrassed they must have felt. How embarassed and disgusted Obama’s supporters must have felt. YEE-OUCH. How pleased our enemies must have felt. That is the problem–Obama is a third-rate imitation of a real person, nothing more. Our enemies gleefully await the presence of Obama in the White House. They will have a fun time with all of us in this nation before Obama is finished, IF this nation is dumb enough (it probably is, uh, duh, uhhhh) to elect him.

Posted by: rik | September 28, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

Obama wants to send more troops to Afghanistan and is again blaming the Bush administration, but he is the “Head of the Afghanistan Committee” and has not attended one meeting and has gone to Afghanistan only once!
I guess politics first for Obama!
You sure you want this guy for President?

Posted by: Carmen | September 28, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

NOBAMA HUSSEIN in Our FATHERS’ HOUSE.
FIGHT TO PRESERVE OUR WESTERN CIVILIZATION FROM FALLING TO MUSLIMS LIKE IN EUROPE. EUROPE NOW IS EURABIA.
McCain/Palin/08

Posted by: Beatrice | September 28, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

What disturbs me more is the fact that people seem to forget that SHE GAVE IT TO HIM.
Once she did that, she gave her explicit consent for him to use it for the purpose of helping him. Those who defame her for that, are to be roundly condemned. Those who think that Obama is abusing this gift, should in turn condemn McCain equally.
Since I doubt that will happen, once again it is a case of Conservative double-standards. It is okay when McCain does it, wrong when anyone else does.

Posted by: Dendroica | September 28, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

CW I have the most love and respect for the men and women in the military, but did you watch the debate where Obama said he was sending more troops to Afghanistan and maybe even Pakistan?
Obama said first he was going to bring the troops home, but now he is sending them to Afgh & Pak?
Posted by: Carmen ———— Carmen is a very nice name as my Wife a Senior Chief shares the same name. She is from Puerto Rico.——-Anyway, Obama want Bin Laden. The guy that helped arrange and ordered the attack on our soil and killed many Americans. Obama want to fight the terrorist and parties responsible. He want to give some support and relief to the troops in Afg because they are in need of it. Because of some bad intelligence and maybe even lies from the current administration, we have lost over 4000 more American lives. We have spread our military so thin that Afg has to few troops and the ones there need relief. If a international crisis or even a domestic crisis happened today who would we send to take care of it. The Coast Guard. No disrespect to the men or women of the CG. Obama loves this country and our military but also realizes that the military needs goo leadership in the White House. Someone that will use the force of the military wisely and knows its limitations. We will never win the war on terrorism until this happens.

Posted by: CW | September 28, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

IF THE SOLDIER’S FATHER DOESN’T WANT OBAMA WEARING THE BRACELET AND THE MOTHER HAD ASK OBAMA NOT TO WEAR IT – OBAMA SHOULD HAVE STOPPED WEARING IT IMMEDIATELY>

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Sorry – you can’t select Palin and claim you put country first or that you have leadership skills. He failed miserably.

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Why slant the headline as if the conservatives are right? The fallen soldier’s mother said she was “ecstatic” Obama mentioned her son during the debate.

Posted by: Jamie Roberts | September 28, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Well, NEPAConservative, considering John McCain comes across like a verbal-Gerald-Ford when it comes to delivering any kind of meant-to-inspire speeches, I’d rather take someone who isn’t so fake and can talk like a normal human when it comes to handling questions.
I guess it just comes down to the type of candidate you want.
I’d rather spend some time focusing on McCain’s sorry attempt to claim credit for rushing to DC to make the Bailout Bill happen … then having to tuck his tail between his legs and come runnin’ back to MS when it turned out he had no sway whatsoever to make anything happen.
And what about his big “I’ll stay in DC until the bill is passed?” Oh, the campaign gives up a cowardly “Well, John thought good progress had been made, that’s why he went to MS for the debate.” What a tissue-paper-thin, lame excuse.
McCain is a pathetic shadow of his former integrity, honor, and courage.
And if you wanna debate who is actually out there communicating with the people. For all *HIS* gaffes, at least the Democratic ticket had the testicles to put Biden on the air after the debate to take questions and provide feedback. Palin is so useless, the GOP couldn’t even have her out there to respond to reporters on McCain’s performance?!?! Get real …
Then again, she probably would have just done what she did anyway: agree with Obama that it would be justified to cross the border into Pakistan and chasing down Bin Laden & Co. Of course, McCain does not agree with that, apparently. So, it sounds like McCain would let the criminals who caused 9/11 hide out in Pakistan if they didn’t agree to chase them on our behalf. At least Obama committed to hunting them wherever they hide … sounds like he and Palin has some good common-ground there.
The GOP ticket with every passing day looks more and more foolish. And if you can look yourself in the mirror and with genuine conviction cast a vote for them, thinking they are the right direction for the country, it only demonstrates why the USA finds itself where it is today.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 28, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Awww another right wing talking point bites the dust. It was the MOTHER who gave him the bracelet. It was the MOTHER who asked him to remember her son. She has every freaking right to her opinion and feelings – no matter how much Rush and Hannity try to smear her.
I am sure the ditto-heads will harass her like they did before – they have NO SHAME.

Posted by: Ann | September 28, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

anticlimatic

Posted by: (*) | September 28, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

WE ALL WATCHED OBAMA LOOK DOWN TO READ FROM HIS NOTES…..NOT REMEMBERING THE SOLDIERS NAME…….HOW DISCUSTING.

Posted by: richard | September 28, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

CW’s fill-in – Soooo Obama would pull out of one war so that we would lose it just before winning (just like in Vietnam (or worse)) and then put all of our military into another war and then pull out of that one just before we won it. Ahhhhh I can see the logic now. Brilliant.

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Hearsay from the “EX”husband? What a pathetic article.

Posted by: Tate | September 28, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

I am reading thru these post and I realized why I have stopped coming here. Did not McCain Exploit his braclet by mentioning it? Did not McCain Exploit the bailout? McCain will exploit anything or anyone as long as it gets him into the White House. This in not about being the Leader of a country for McCain. This is about winning the “PRIZE” of the Presidency. That is what he says in his book.
It is worth to note the following excerpt from Senator McCain’s Book
“Worth the Fighting For: A Memoir” (2002)
“I didn’t decide to run for President to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be President because it had become my ambition to be President. I was sixty-two years old when I made the decision and I thought it was my one shot at the prize.”

Posted by: Iam4thisCountry | September 28, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

You know who to vote for if:
You agree that we should pay higher taxes. (creating another depression).
You agree that more government control is needed over people and industry (socialism).
You understand the government needs to abolish certain constitutional rights (freedom
of speech, freedom of religion, the right to own and bear arms).
You can accept fighting terrorists in your own back yard without a gun for your own
protection.
You can adapt to living under government control similar to China or Russia.
You sympathize with the top executives of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and think
they should be allowed to keep all the money they embezzled from the American people.
You don’t mind if your religion is one of radical militants.
You want your children to enjoy these benefits as if intended by our forefathers

Posted by: chas | September 28, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Do you remember the name on the bracelet?

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

McCain did a great job on pointing out how niave and inexperienced that Obama truly is.
McCain was considerably more presidential than Obama maybe thats the reason he didn’t bring up the fact that while Obama was on his tour of Iraq that he attempted to get the Iraqi”s not to do anything about troop reductions until after the election
which if true is a violation of the Logan act
punishable as a treasonable offense

Posted by: john | September 28, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

THE MOTHER CONFIRMED THAT SHE HAD ASKED OBAMA TO STOP WEARING THE BRACELET OR USING HER SON’S NAME,THE FATHER STILL DOESN’T WANT OBAMA USING HIS SON’S NAME, BUT OBAMA DID IT ANYWAY?! WOW. SAD

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

McCain knew the name of the soldier whose wristband he was wearing
If you watch the video Obama had to look at his and then read the name off it

Posted by: john | September 28, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

THE EX-HUSBAND IS RAISING THE RUCKUS, TO NOT WEAR THE BRACELET! DON’T YOU GET IT? HE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR HIS EX-WIFE! DOESN’T ANYBODY UNDERSTAND THE ANIMOSITY BROUGHT ON BY DIVORCE?
GET OVER IT, AND MOVE ON! UNITE AMERICA!

Posted by: rene | September 28, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Obama lovers, sweet dreams in blissful ignorance. Do your homework like good citizens and get an education to see what Obama really is.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

All you far-right prejudiced nitwits that would unduly jump on Obama for approvingly invoking the memory of a fallen soldier should take note of one key thing: there is a “he said, she said” syndrome here. And that’s if this whole unsubstantiated story here is true! The mother, intrinsically, would not disapprove of Obama’s use of her dead son’s memory seeing that it soothes the pain of her loss. However, the estranged husband, apparently a McCain puppet, would have none of its use.
It is not our place, as rank outsiders, to arbitrate between the parents as to which of them has legal claim to the correct use of their son’s memory; but to blame only Obama when McCain did just the same thing is hard evidence to the arrant ludicrousness and despicable partisanship of the originators of this storyline!!!
How do we know that the mother who gave McCain her son’s bracelet said the exact words ‘verbatim’ that McCain used during the debate? How do we know that a cousin or an uncle of this pro-McCain mum is not against McCain’s use of the son’s memory; at least, they’re still part of the family? Given McCain’s mean, brooding, and cranky demeanor during the debate, is it not true that he would clutch at anything, however immoral, to score political points and put his debating opponent away?
This whole thing is a charade to masquerade McCain’s increasing apprehension over his failure to decimate Obama in a foreign-policy debate that should be his (McCain’s) strong suit!! I guess he must have seen most of the polls giving Obama the win in the first debate!

Posted by: Guillaume Cilini | September 28, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Think about it.
“Braceletgate” says EVERYTHING you need to know about the person who is Obama.

Posted by: Ted | September 28, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Ralphie,
How do you define “winning” a war? If it is defeating al-Qaeda, then we absolutely must pull out of Iraq… do you know why? Because al-Qaeda is not in Iraq!

Posted by: CW's fill-in | September 28, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

CW’s fill-in – Soooo Obama would pull out of one war so that we would lose it just before winning (just like in Vietnam (or worse)) and then put all of our military into another war and then pull out of that one just before we won it. Ahhhhh I can see the logic now. Brilliant.
Posted by: Ralphie ————Nobody is talking about loosing the war in Iraq. In my opinion it has already been won. Now its time to let Iraq take care of themselves. They must be doing ok with the surplus they have. Im also not suggesting we pull every troop out tomarrow. But it is time to start cutting back and send some relief to Afg. I am also saying that we cant put a canidate in the white house that supported Bush on all the mistakes he made just to have more mistakes made. Didnt Pres Bush land in all his ego and glory, on a Carrier and proclaim victory? How many years ago was that.

Posted by: CW | September 28, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

McCain’s children are in the military. Palin’s son is in Iraq. Joe Biden’s son is also deployed, although he is an attorney so he won’t be seeing combat, most likely. The only one with no family stake in preventing war is …. Obama.

Posted by: HawkTheSlayer | September 28, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Carmen, you want to talk about playing politics?
Last week, Obama called John McCain to try to show bipartisan unity
And what does John McCain do? Raise all this fuss about suspending his campaign, he called for canceling the debate – when both candidates had their first chance to really communicate with America – and he vowed to rush to DC and help facilitate the bailout bill.
And what happened?!?!
He got there and was practically LAUGHED out of town. He has no power, most GOP Senators don’t even respect him, and he doesn’t have any leadership position whatsoever. Yet, beating Obama and making a fool of himself was more important than talking to the American people, and showing them a calm hand in a time of crisis?
That is the biggest effort to politicize a non-political situation since Bush with the lovely “Mission Accomplished” garbage.
At least Obama said, “I’ll do whatever my nation asks of me, but I think it is important that if we can, we keep the debate so we can talk to the American people about what is going on, and how we’ll prevent it.”
What did McCain do? Oh, his camp vowed he’d stay in DC until the bill was passed. It’s Sunday now, and was the bill passed? Nope. And, was McCain in DC from Thursday onward? Nope.
He rushed down to MS to do the debate because “good progress” had been made. So, he couldn’t even close the deal with his own party, and had to run down to MS?
Is this really what America needs, a leader who is brash and cannot calmly handle a crisis? And, someone who played politics with getting credit for bipartisanship, and then infused the bailout-negotiations with 100% POLITICS by bringing the Presidential Press circus to town?
Get real and open your eyes. John McCain 2008 is a disgrace and he makes the GOP look like the most foolish grouping of mindless automatons since Jonestown.
I look forward to seeing what what other legislation “Chicken Little” McCain can rush to DC to help drive through …

Posted by: TommyRilet | September 28, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Posted by: Iraq soldier
“It is somewhat common knowledge that members of the military vote more for Republicans but that is changing this election. I have never seen more Republican members of the military saying they are voting for Obama because they are sick Bush and feel McCain would be the same. Vote Obama and keep our soldiers safe.”
:LOL Yeeaaah right!

Posted by: Paul | September 28, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

In his own words…BUT DEFINITELY OUT OF CONTEXT. Next!

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

The soldiers of America do not support obama, and he knows it. The wearing of this bracelet is a cheap attempt at tricking the nation into believing that the US Military supports him. If he is elected we are all doomed. Who is gonna fight for hussein obama – we will have to hire mercernaries.

Posted by: bekumbokem | September 28, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Over the past 8 years the Republican party has brought America to her knees. Only Obama can save her.

Posted by: ProudLib | September 28, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

I have asked this question several times and never have gotten an answer.
Please define the definition of “Win”. I keep hearing that we can Not leave till we “Win” In Iraq. But I have never hear McCain or any of his surrogates what the definition is.
I am waiting.

Posted by: Iam4thisCountry | September 28, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Chas- Ask yourself if you want to have 8 more years of the destruction we just went through. I see a man that has proven himself and his love for the American people regardless of their race or creed. I can’t say the same for the GOP. Their audience at the convention said a lot.

Posted by: Dee | September 28, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

McCain has sadly devalued his own worthy POW story by using it as a get out of everything pass. Then he does the same with a soldier’s bracelet. Sure, there are mothers who take the loss differently. Just because one mother thinks more deaths makes her son’s death better somehow, does not mean there are not many more who have suffered the loss and want the deaths to stop.
McCain brought it up and it needed to be answered. I respect both mothers and mourn their losses. I disrespect McCain’s use of the bracelet as another political gimmick for his campaign agenda. Thank you Tracy Jopek for your support in helping to hopefully bring to an end this awful type of political theater.

Posted by: Lee | September 28, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Why American is Doomed:
Because of our horrible education system, and an encouragable media… voters don’t have the ability or the resources to really decide who has the best plans for America. So they reason their vote based on things they do understand… like bracelets, and flag pins, and appearance. Its really sad to watch the country with the greatest gift on earth… our constitution, vote away piece by piece all the liberties which that constitution ensures.

Posted by: Blake | September 28, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Wow, chas, I’ve never seen someone who is so interested in comments about race?
Last time I checked, the United States was a country for people from all races, creeds, and religions. It’s nice that you pull quotes out of context and post them, trying to prove some point about Obama and race.
But, in the end, it just shows why the GOP today is the logical home of fascist and racist thought. Clearly you’ll be voting on race this year … good to know.
I just hope that most others will be voting based on the best ideals of America this year, not the worst.

Posted by: randomthinking | September 28, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

The results for polls differ depending on the website. Don’t get overly excited Obama fans…
I know many a Democrat who are going to vote for McCain because they actually took their time to research and not just blindly vote for someone just because the candidate is in the Democratic party.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Someone on this blog said that Obama/biden need to restore our world standing.
Would that be the world standing we had when a bunch of terrorist attacked us and killed our citizens?
I wonder if your children enjoy their security knowing you are a weak knee appeaser.
It is a good thing that their are valiant young men and women who honor their freedom and security by helping to provide it for the whining few who wouldn’t defend their own loved ones from harm.
Such cowards always want to talk things out while the wolves grin and tell you thank you for being so nice.
If you do not have the stomach to stand up for what is right. The stomach to go forth and be in harms way, then just move out of the way and those of us who wear the uniform will go, we are happy to do it so you can go on living without being scared of your own shadows.
Oh, I can see it now, all of u brave ones on the blog running your mouths and confusing your anonymity for courage to speak what you believe to be a conviction. I wonder how many of you would defend your current convictions with your life. I’ll bet not one of you who bitch about this war. It’s easier to say it started with a lie than to put yourself in the mix and be a help.
911 was not a lie, the Islamic extremest attacked our country and continue to try to kill us even now, while you defend them and cut the throats of your own to save yourselves.
You say u are patriots, you are not patriots, you have no grounding in such ideals as love for country and your fellow man. Your self preservation is all you live for, your platitudes of self righteousness in YOUR cause is a feeble shield from our enemies.
That is why we have young men and women who actually have to go into harms way. Because you CARE so much for them that you stand up and help their foes. Grow up and become men and stop crying for mommies milk whenever the going gets tough.
It is pathetic and I am ashamed that the best so many can do with the freedom that has been so hard fought for and earned with the blood of our countrymen is to bravely march down a nice safe street with a banner protesting that freedom and what it takes to keep it.
Sleep tight appeasers, vote for Obama, sleep tight slaves and eat of the fruits of your savior Obama for the fruit will bring you into his light and the dark you now know will be like the bright and burning sun compared to the darkness of your captivity.
FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: proud American | September 28, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

Actually according to McCain,,, we have won…we are winning…we will win. Which is it? Soldiers can stop dying when politicians come up with a saving face definition. There’s nothing to win. There never was. All we have done is replaced a secular run government with a Shiite dominated government. I think Iran is laughing right now.

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

AND WHAT ABOUT THE FATHER’S VIEWS?! DON’T HIS WISHES ABOUT HIS SON MEAN ANYTHING? NOT TO OBAMA OR THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA APPARENTLY. SAD.

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

In order to pay for Obama’s business tax increases, I will be laying off about 20 employees from my small business. I regret doing this to long-time employees, but I cannot allow my business to fail just because we have a new president. That will compensate for a 4-5% increase in business tax. Any further increase in business tax I will pass on directly to my customers. So save your middle class tax “breaks,” because you are going to need them many times over each year to pay for the price increases you will see on all goods and services (which are, after all, provided to you by “corporations”).
Your vote for Obama will have real consequences for real people. If you yourself are let go, feel free to blame former President Bush. But the real cause will be Obama’s tax increases.

Posted by: SmallBiz240 | September 28, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

McCain came across as sincere whereas Obama came off as a slick package prepared for mass consumpution by the liberal media

Posted by: john | September 28, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

More of the same “shuck and jive” from Hussein Obama. This is a man who never fought a war, never did a day in the service, and doesn’t fight for you here at home. He’s written three books and not a single piece of legislation worthwhile. Even his “I voted against Iraq” isn’t true…just as his grandstanding shuck and jive comments aren’t true.
No, once again Hussein Obama proves what we all know but won’t say…this is clearly the politics of “shuck and jive”…it has nothing to do with hope and all to do about his career.
Don’t be misled by “shuck and jive” speak…remember, only one man in this race fought for you and continues to fight for you…putting America First always.
Prosperity, Reform, Peace.
McCain – Palin – Leadership you can trust, change you can depend on.

Posted by: SensibleFella | September 28, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Remember Al-Qaeda and BinLaden attacked the US on our soil. Iraq didnt attack us. We went in to Iraq because it was already a preconceived decision by bush and Cheney. By doing so they showed lack of good decision making and put our young men and women in both Iraq and Afg. in danger. McCain supported Bush on these bad decisions and on 90 percent of his policies. The failed one too. Obama has voted in support of Vet affairs where McCain has voted them down. McCain also voted against the GI Bill.

Posted by: CW | September 28, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

If anyone is wondering how partisan gridlock could prevent our government from doing anything to help average Americans… look no further than the comments on this page.
I give up… might as well pick sides…Later everyone!

Posted by: Blake | September 28, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

McCain is soft on terror and is not willing to confront the terrorists in Afghanistan.
Thank god that Obama is going to protect us from the evil doers.

Posted by: Obama the Real Deal | September 28, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Philly Paul — That’s truely true.

Posted by: Anne J | September 28, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

The father did not give the bracelet to Obama. Is there any evidence to substantiate that he communicated his opposition to Obama? Before the debate? Or any period following Obama’s first mentioning the bracelet? NO.

Posted by: SoWhat | September 28, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

“McCain came across as sincere whereas Obama came off as a slick package prepared for mass consumpution by the liberal media”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!! Yup, just like McCain was sincere when he said he would stay in Washington, DC, until the Bailout Bill was passed.
McCain is a fool easily duped by his own sense of self-importance. At least Obama didn’t try to cop out of a debate by running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
That ain’t leadership, that’s desperation …

Posted by: jamieMI | September 28, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

The Republicans must be out of tricks. They have played Rezko, Ayers and even Reverend Wright just to scare voters and yet Obama is still in the lead. Expect more Democrats but fear not because we are prepared. Thank God Biden is taking the debate seriously because I heard Palin is a superb debater and may just be taking everyone for a ride. Cant believe the Republicans will bring this bracelet issue out. I have to ask, Is this all you got? Cant blame them, what are they going to play again. The next debate is a town hall and that will rarely affect the polls but Obama should start preparing for the last debate. Mccain is going to come out swinging. Shame on the republicans. they should be kneeling down and asking Americans for forgiveness but yet they are asking for four more years. No way, No how, McGimmick, No Palindisaster.

Posted by: vuzous | September 28, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

Typical. America-hating republicans use dead soldiers as political props and it, rightly, blows up in your collective faces. Shame on you!
God Bless Tracy Jopek and her beloved fallen hero son, Ryan! President Barack Obama will make you and our nation proud.

Posted by: jefferson | September 28, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

This is news? Even as the country falls deeper and deeper in the W Whole?
Obama/Bide 08/12

Posted by: mb122 | September 28, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Barack Obama…
A mile wide and an inch deep.

Posted by: EricBrodin | September 28, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Obama’s a good talker….BUT WHAT HAS HE DONE?!?!? He has done nothing of significance his whole life! Name something he’s done that benefited others and not himself. He’s all about himself. He’s an egomaniac and just as stubborn as Bush.

Posted by: Dman | September 28, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Smallbiz240: Do you offer Health Insurance? Because if you do you will have to pay taxes on it if McCain is elected. So under McCain, alot of small business will stop paying for Health Insurance for their employees because they cannot afford the taxes. I am a small business owner, Obama is better for small businesses than McCain.

Posted by: Iam4thisCountry | September 28, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Another poster mentioned the father’s wishes. Certainly they are important but one must note that the mother is independent from the father. Her thoughts and concerns are different than his. She is a person in her own right and has suffered the loss of her son. She has the right to give the bracelet to Senator Obama or to anyone else. She gave birth to David, raised him, loved him, and has to come to terms with his death. Respect her, please.

Posted by: Kay | September 28, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

For all you libs that are salivating at the polls one thing you should remember
all pollsters say that if obama isn’t up by 10-15 points before the election he is toast.
This is a guy that even with the help of the admitted biased media can’t get above 50 percent.
And with a veep pick that averages a gaffe a day it’s going to be an uphill battle for the Obama campaign

Posted by: john | September 28, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

OBAMA CLAIMS CREDIT FOR BAILOUT BILL SAY MCCAIN DONT DESERVE ANY WHAT SELF SERVING PERSON ITS OK MCCAINS SAYS HE DONT NEED ANY CREDIT

Posted by: david reyes | September 28, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Hmmm, if Obama cares so much about succeeding in Afghanistan then why did he only hold 1 committee meeting on it? Obama said during the debate he quit doing earmarks yet the emergency Wall Street Bailout bill had 20% of income going to ACORN…kinda stinks. Obama is nothing but an uber phony, can any of his supporters show one thing that he’s done for the country and not for himself?

Posted by: truthdetective | September 28, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Obama is liar.
First he lies about his affiliation with terrorist Bill Ayers.
Then he lies about not knowing what Rev. Wright’s beliefs of American hatred and Black nationalism.
He lies about his involvement with lobbyist from Freddie Mae.
Is it any wonder why he lies about the bracelet?
Obama looks evil, because he is evil.

Posted by: George | September 28, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

McCain is an angery bitter old man that expects to be prsident and Palin is just plain clueless. Thank you republicans for the gift that keeps on giving.
Obama/Biden hope you spend your tax cut wisely.

Posted by: ObamaBiden 08 | September 28, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

It’s still a shame that Obama didn’t remember the son’s name and didn’t respect the family’s request asking him not to wear it. You libs justify anything if it suits your cause – legal, ethical or moral.

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

THE MOTHER CONFIRMS THAT SHE ASKED OBAMA TO STOP USING HER SON’S NAME! EVEN IF SHE IS OK WITH OBAMA IGNORING THE FAMILY’S WISHES, IT’S STILL WRONG!!! THE FATHER’S WISHES ARE ALSO BEING TOTALLY DISRESPECTED. WHY IS IT OK FOR OBAMA TO WEAR THIS BRACELET AND USE THIS MAN’S SONS NAME WHEN THE FATHER DOESN’T WANT HIM TO?! OBAMA SHOULD HAVE THE DECENCY TO REPSECT THE FATHER’S WISHES. HE HAS LOST A SON!!

Posted by: Wayne | September 28, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

john, it’s okay, since Palin spends so much time either hiding from the press or agreeing with Obama’s more robust military positions (e.g. in Afghanistan), it’ll help in the end …
At least gaffe-a-day has the spine to get out there and face questions. I’d rather him say something than nothing … too bad the GOP has to sit there and hide Palin because she’s so ignorant on every important issue facing America today.
And especially when Palin gets nailed for her involvement with the mine, or with her own Troopergate.
The GOP had one Spiro Agnew … guess it’s time for another one …
And Deacon John M. Bresnahan, you know, the Obama camp wouldn’t have to sit there and police the truth if it weren’t for so many liars in the GOP sitting there and OPENLY LYING to the American public. Want an example from here? JJ and the long-since disproven rumor about Obama’s birth certificate?
Want an example from the real world? McCain is SUCH A LIAR that Karl Rove – KARL ROVE – even said he doesn’t meet the truth test!!!!!
LOL!!!!!! What a joke, what an utter, utter joke …

Posted by: AtomBombadier27 | September 28, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

Bwahahahaha!
Look at the republican zombies dance. McCain is going to lose and there is nothing you can do about it.
Liberals forever!

Posted by: Obama i a God | September 28, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

How in the h*ll has Obama gotten this far? And it just shows what Obama said just last year to get to where he is now. It is the complete opposite of what he is saying now. AMAZING!
If Obama is elected we are doomed!
Any candidate who is endorsed by Hamas, Iran and Louis Farakhan, should make people stop and think long and hard about what it is about this guy that would be so good for our country. He is the exact opposite of what this country stands for.

Posted by: S Adams | September 28, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

“Proud American” says: Would that be the world standing we had when a bunch of terrorist attacked us and killed our citizens?
FYI, the 9/11 attacks on AMERICA occurred on 9/11/2001. BUSH was “in charge”. Incompetence in the wake of Katrina wiped out a unique and gorgegeous AMERICAN city. BUSH was “in charge”. The biggest financial meltdown in generations in AMERICA has put our economy on the brink of disaster. BUSH was “in charge.”
Your scare tactics are absurd. Your understanding is sadly limited. No one will change your mind, I know; mental dexterity is not what you are about. But YOUR track record in support of Bush/McCain should exclude you from bothering anyone with your opinion now.

Posted by: Lee | September 28, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

McCain/Palin in a landslide!!!!!
all polling services have said that unless Obama is up 10-15 percent before the election history has shown that he will lose the election.
And he cant get above 50 percent with the admittedly bias media tv and newspapers acting as an extensions of his campaign

Posted by: john | September 28, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Mccain is an idiot. Anybody can do better than come out 894 out of 899 students. He doesnt know where spain is. I believe him when he said he knows nothing of the economy.
He is a person whose emotions run ahead of his thinking. At a time when strategy and focus is needed, he is most certainly the wrong choice.

Posted by: sand | September 28, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress, including 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005. Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.
His record is in fact quite impressive for a junior Senator. His legislative efforts have been in the areas of: Energy Efficiency and Climate Change(25 bills), Health care (21 bills), Public Health (20 bills), Consumer Protection/Labor (14 bills),the needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces(13 bills), Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills), Foreign Policy (10 bills), Voting and Elections (9 bills)Education (7 bills), Hurricane Katrina Relief(6)The Environment(5 bills), Homeland Security(4 bills)and
Discrimination(4 bills). Now what were you saying about Palin?

Posted by: HeavyHitter | September 28, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

TO DEE:
You know who to vote for if:
You agree that we should pay higher taxes. (creating another depression).
You agree that more government control is needed over people and industry (socialism).
You understand the government needs to abolish certain constitutional rights (freedom
of speech, freedom of religion, the right to own and bear arms).
You can accept fighting terrorists in your own back yard without a gun for your own
protection.
You can adapt to living under government control similar to China or Russia.
You sympathize with the top executives of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and think
they should be allowed to keep all the money they embezzled from the American people.
You don’t mind if your religion is one of radical militants.
You want your children to enjoy these benefits as if intended by our forefathers

Posted by: chas | September 28, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Key sentence in the whole article: “… she said she was “ecstatic” that Obama mentioned her son’s hero bracelet during Friday’s debate.”
The only reason she had originally asked him not to is because she was getting hate mail from the Republicans.

Posted by: doug | September 28, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

truthdetective …
Yeah, Obama had the spine to stick with the Democratic process and never once back-tracked on showing up for the first Presidential Debate, never once back-tracked on showing up to face tough questions in front of the American public.
How about McCain? Ah, yeah, he backed out because he wasn’t ready, he backed out for his own cheap political agenda, and because he thought his 26 years in DC surely meant he had some clout. Truth was not on person in DC cared what McCain thought, he couldn’t do jack, and then he had to run like a mutt to the debate …
And, sticking to the debate is just the LATEST example of Obama sticking up for American democracy, and seeing through his plans …
What has McCain done lately, other than earned the reputation of being untruthful to the American public from Karl Rove himself?
Or, how about the Republican ticket? We could ask Palin how many earmarks the anti-pork-crusader had requested in the last two years … but since the GOP is too frightened to put her in front of a camera because all she does is agree with Obama (on energy policy, on Arghanistan, etc), I doubt we’ll have the chance (Lord knows, she doesn’t take questions anyway) …

Posted by: theresatowns | September 28, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

I love the smell of GOP desperation in the evening!

Posted by: Lemmy | September 28, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

The MSM is in the GOP’s back pocket. Obama is actually up by at least 15 points but the meia needs this close so they get their ratings.
I can’t wait for the Obama landslide that happens on Nov 4th.

Posted by: Obama4Pres | September 28, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

usa4Obama – “Palin is just plain clueless. Thank you retardicans for the gift that keeps on giving.Thank God that Obama is going to win the election!”
Where did Pailin come into this discussion about the bracelet that Obama shouldn’t have mentioned on national television?
Obama is God’s gift to you, usa4Obama, and minions like you. You serve him well.

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

SO OBAMA IS CAUGHT IN A FLAT OUT LIE!!
Why isn’t this the most important part of the story. The mother said SHE NEVER SAID ANYTHING TO HIM and he made up the bull that she asked him to stop the war. CAUGHT IN A LIE…. WHERE IS THE MEDIA ON THIS ONE!!!

Posted by: Leen58 | September 28, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

It’s interesting that the Obama quote did not mention the number of ums and ahs it took before he rememered this bracelet he was wearing.

Posted by: Balance12345 | September 28, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Mocking McCain: New Hampshire Newspaper “Suspends” Writing Editorials To Focus On Economy

Posted by: SN | September 28, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Amen John

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Teppers’s allegation was that Obama was asked NOT TO WEAR THE BRACELET. That allegation HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED, only that she asked him not to bring it up in his stump speeches, which he doesn’t, and he wouldn’t have mentioned it in the debate either if McCain had decided to exploit his own bracelet first. Thefamily is “ECSTATIC” that Obama mentioned the bracelet.So there’s no story here. Tepper got it wrong, and tried to weasel his update to avoid admitting it.

Posted by: Ken S. | September 28, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Obama is a media made man. A puppet of the liberal left. He knows nothing of the economy, foreign affairs, commanding the armed forces, homeland security, or bipartisanship. Obama has one year of political experience out of his 47 years. He has lied about almost everything concerning his own life. He associates with admitted terrorists, and convicted felons. He would be an absolute disaster for the U.S.

Posted by: Jack Jenkins | September 28, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Obama LIED HE LIED HE LIED HE LIED but of course you liberals (including the meida) will give him a pass on it…just like his pass on Rev Wright, Tony Revsko and Bill Ayers…you can judge a man by his associates!!

Posted by: leen58 | September 28, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

My fear is that Obama who claims he never supported the war, never voted on the war.
If I had one of my sons killed in Iraq, or elsewhere in the middle east as a soldier, I would prefer to have a war hero wear his bracelet than a war protester who has never served in the military.And I would also fear for those soldiers who may yet die because Obama is too inexperienced and will make poor decisions in the pullout, thus placing our soldiers over there in more danger.

Posted by: Fran | September 28, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Democrats are the lowest of the low. Mean spirited name calling is the best they can do. I kind of hope Obama wins. It will mean Republican administrations for years to come. Obama is an empty suit who appeals to the empty heads that support him.

Posted by: Annie | September 28, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Obama’s new campaign slogan, “I have one too!”

Posted by: Ralphie | September 28, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Let’s get one thing straight. We can assign a lot of blame for this crisis… there is certainly a lot to go around. Hubris and greed on Wall Street played a significant part…
But let’s not get so distracted that we forget the real irony here… namely that those who are now pretending to come to the rescue with solutions like knights on white horses — I’m talking about the men and women we elect to Congress — bear a large share of the blame! “They all lived off big campaign contributions and the swill of the lobbyists who strong armed them into permission to steal.”
Or to put it the words of Chuck Colson; “the people who are going to steer this plan through Congress are the very characters who brought us this crisis. And they are already looking for political and financial goodies they can hang on to the plan.” And, who is one of the main culprits? None other than Barack Hussein Obama!
“But there is another cause of this crisis that we cannot ignore: the near-incestuous relationship between politicians and big-time government-supported financial institutions.”
“… Fannie and Freddie spent more than $200 million lobbying Congress over the past decade. Among politicians, Barack Obama ranked number three in terms of campaign contributions received from the two agencies–more than $100,000. His chief advisor in the vice-presidential vetting process is a former CEO of Fannie Mae.”
As our political leaders wrangle and haggle and jockey to score political points, let’s send them our own message. Let them know that we are not fooled… that the American people are fully aware of the roll they played in this mess.

Posted by: chas | September 28, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

chas, well, considering Obama is the Democratic nominee and is polling a helluva lot better amongst all racial demographics in the US, seems like the people are already being heard :)
Luckily, since modern-day racism has found a home in the minds of the GOP, the Democrats are largely off the hook for that one nowadays …
Then again, just as Ted Haggard can be forgiven for leading his flock astray (after repenting), surely the Democratic party can be forgiven as well, having already done its own penance on the matter …

Posted by: RednameJoe | September 28, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

It’s time for change and that change is in the form of responsible government for the people, by the people.
Obama is an honorable man and america needs him at this time.
Obama 2008

Posted by: America'sSavior | September 28, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

John McCain is in a Free Fall! It’s AWESOME!

Posted by: Chris | September 28, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

John McCain, the Bush Administration, the republican presidential campaign and their supporters have blood on their hands from the illegal war they declared on Iraq! The guilt is obvious by McCain’s constant exploitation of dead soldiers and his sense of entitlement to use such in his presidential campaign and last Friday’s debate, which is why he could not look his opponent in the eye during the debate and now continues to fabricate lies to cover his dispicable actions!
During the debate, Obama demonstrated a brilliant vast knowledge of foreign policy and how it relates to our economy and overall national security!
Unfortunately, after over two decades of foreign policy experience, all McCain could do was rattle off the names of foreign leaders he has met, and imply that if he should be so lucky to be elected president that he will no doubt engage the US in numerous wars simultaneously because that is all he knows and it really excites and turns him on!!

Posted by: Daine - Dallas, TX | September 28, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

John McCain, the Bush Administration, the republican presidential campaign and their supporters have blood on their hands from the illegal war they declared on Iraq! The guilt is obvious by McCain’s constant exploitation of dead soldiers and his sense of entitlement to use such in his presidential campaign and last Friday’s debate, which is why he could not look his opponent in the eye during the debate and now continues to fabricate lies to cover his dispicable actions!
During the debate, Obama demonstrated a brilliant vast knowledge of foreign policy and how it relates to our economy and overall national security!
Unfortunately, after over two decades of foreign policy experience, all McCain could do was rattle off the names of foreign leaders he has met, and imply t
hat if he should be so lucky to be elected president that he will no doubt engage the US in numerous wars simultaneously because that is all he knows and it really excites and turns him on!!

Posted by: Daine - Dallas, TX | September 28, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

As an independent, gratuitous anti-OBAMA rhetoric and language, as is being peddled here, have pushed me leaning toward voting for him in November. What has the guy done wrong? Is it too much to ask for to let the debate be on FACTS and FIGURES and not on mischaracterizations, untruths, and blatant lies????!!!
I’m sure Americans are not going to be dumb again this time to vote for the same! It’s time for a positive change that would bring back the prosperity of the Democratic eras.

Posted by: Guillaume Cilini | September 28, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

The republicans dont have to spread lies about Obama he is a lie,phony,and marxist.
like Bill Cinton Obama is an unusually
good liar.
Come to think of it it must be a prerequisit for being a leading member of the democratic party.
That and not having a memory when questioned under oath.
Let’s all remember Obama still hasn’t been fully vetted by the media even at this late date.
Makes you wonder how many more skeletons are in his closet that the mainstream media is not telling us about.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Okay, all you right wing, read the last paragraph of the article. Then, you’ll understand that the mother was “ecstatic” to have Sen. Barack Obama mention her son’s hero bracelet in the debate as a rebuttal to Johnny Liar McSame’s mention of a similar item. What is it with you people. Are you just too stupid to comprehend what you read. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: caliguy55 | September 28, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

Obama is a good, decent man and the GOP can’t stand it. People really like him and there is nothing the right wing can do about it, except try to smear him. But even after every attack against his character, the countless lies dealt out by the McCain camp, Mr. Obama still bounces back looking better than before.
This is the year the GOP falls.

Posted by: Cosmo | September 28, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Nothing suprises me from the countrys largest hate group the democRAT party. Any report that is done by AP is suspect, since they say that AP reporters are taking cash and gifts from democRATS, in exchange for positive stories. Obama attracts the lowest of the low.

Posted by: Jil | September 28, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

leen58 …
Awwww, it is so cute to see you grasping at straws on the Obama lied route.
Do you think it was a big enough lie that Karl Rove will call him out on it, just like Karl Rove already called out McCain for being an utter and base liar to the American people?
Thankfully, this soldier’s mom is “ecstatic” with Obama championing the memory of her son.
Perhaps when McCain decides to start being honest with the American people, we can learn his thoughts on the matter too. Just funny how McCain gets on national television and trots out the corpse of a dead soldier for political gain, yet none of you have even a response to that.
I think this just must be a disease affecting the GOP today, a zombie disease where you only see what you want to see. I guess it’s a lot like Scientology in that regard.
Considering McCain tried to coward-out of the debate anyway, I wouldn’t take anything for truth from someone who doesn’t even have the good sense and commitment to America to actually show up for Democracy … someone who had to be lead by the nose by someone you claim to despise so much.
Clearly McCain is no match for Obama, otherwise he wouldn’t have wound up looking like such an impotent, self-aggrandized fool last week.
I used to have a lot of respect for McCain and three weeks ago even considered voting for him. But after last week? What a joke …

Posted by: PoorLeen | September 28, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Good grief – Obama forgot her son’s name. Especially embarrassing since she gave it to him so he’d remember his name.

Posted by: Daniel Troy | September 28, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

why are you surprised that Barry Hussein Obama is using the bracelet as a tool even though his family told him to shut his mouth.

Posted by: whyareyousurprised | September 28, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

The AP just reported…
She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates.
But she says Obama’s mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier’s mother gave him a bracelet.
Jopek says Obama’s comment rightfully suggested there’s more than one viewpoint on the war.

Posted by: Tim | September 28, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

I’m willing to bet that the filthy right-wingers will try to smear Tracy Jopek like they did Cindy Sheehan.

Posted by: Cosmo | September 28, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

The vast left-wing conspiracy is doing it’s bit? Academia, media, Hollywood, unions….

Posted by: Lester | September 28, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Man there are a lot of hateful people on this site. I guess we should expect that though when Tapper writes such an inflammatory and biased story. Maybe next time you should actually ask the mother of the fallen soldier what her opinion was instead of asking her ex-husband? Another biased story from Tapper.

Posted by: SPM | September 28, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

Lets see, McCain uses the bracelet he carries in a foreign policy debate and Obama responds pointing out 1) no US military member who dies following the orders of the Commander-in-Chief dies in vain and 2) he also has a bracelet.
So, why are we talking about Obama, instead of McCain?
Or is it that when McCain does something it is OK, but when Obama does it, it is not?

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

For those of you who are so fond of Obama and his plans for our nation, why don’t you traitors move to some government run country like Russia, China or North Korea where you can experience what you are supporting and let the true patriots of America enjoy the freedom and constitional rights our forefathers sacrificed so much for.

Posted by: chas | September 28, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Maybe you should have posted this, “But she said she was “ecstatic” that Obama mentioned her son’s hero bracelet during Friday’s debate. That’s because he was responding to McCain citing a different griveing mother’s hero bracelet as a way to back his political views of the war in Iraq and citing the bracelet she’d given Obama was a good and appropriate way to remind people there are different views on this issue.” BEFORE YOU WROTE THE ARTICLE! Do I smell Republican bias again in your blog Jake? And people wonder why no one trusts a journalist!

Posted by: Sean | September 28, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

A vote for Obamam is a vote for freedom.
The repulicans and their zombies have bankrupted america both morally and financially.
The democrats always have to clean up the mess that republicans leave behind.
Bush,McCain and his cronies are lining their pockets with over 1 tillion dolloars of taxpayer money. Well done GOP supporters.

Posted by: Responsible Gov | September 28, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

o Jake, I read your post. You confirmed that Dad, a probable McCain supporter, doesn’t want his son’s memory manipulated by the Obama campaign; moreoever, Mom, an Obama supporter, has misgivings about it. This is not mentioned until the end of the article. What about this contention by unspecified conservatives is not true? Given the fact that some of your other mmaterial has come into question with no respnse from you or ABC, how can you say “this does not appear to be true?”

Posted by: trentk269 | September 28, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

I love how the Dems like to call the Iraq war illegal and they had NOTHING to do with it. Funny thing, look up some info on just how many Dems,in writing, said they believed that Saddam had WMDs and needed to be stopped. I dare you to inform yourself and look it up. You just regurgitate what the stinking liberal media puts out there. Try doing some homework and stop being lazy and just parroting everything you hear. All politicians are liars but I have never heard such BS from one until Barak Hussein Obama got in the limelight! Inexperienced, disrespectful, smug, condescending louse.

Posted by: Mary | September 28, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

The only thing that surprises me here is how stupid Mr. tapper is. We learn in school that you check your story before you report.

Posted by: foli | September 28, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

John, I think it’s not okay for Obama because the family says it isn’t.. enough said. Where’s you heart? A typical Obama supporter!

Posted by: dlh | September 28, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Publius …
“there is an extremely important bill being debated in Washington right now and McCain considered the economic state of the country a little bit more important than campaigning, unlike Obama.”
LOL!!!!!! ROFL!!!!!!!
McCain appeared on TV 5 minutes after Obama spoke with him … to suspend his campaign, to call on a suspension of the debate.
And why? Because the GOP-stalled bill to bail out the American economy took precedence. And McCain thought he could make a difference in that process … when he isn’t even a leader in the Senate?
Love this characterization: “After announcing earlier in the week he would suspend his campaign and return to the capital until there was an agreement, Republican McCain abruptly reversed course and departed for Friday night’s debate with Democratic rival Obama.”
LOL!!! “I’m going to stay in DC until the bill is passed.” Thanks McCain for a broken promise made directly to the American people …
Let’s go to the timeline, shall we …

Posted by: jamestown2004 | September 28, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Chas,
Our constitutional rights have been totally obliterated by Bush’s republican administration! The Patriot Act, torture of POWs and accused POWs!

Posted by: Diane in Dallas, TX | September 28, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Ben Dover–don’t forget the vouchers for gas

Posted by: S Adams | September 28, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Hey John………….
You and your brothers and sisters on the left spewing crap on this site are….. well, lets say, had you been around during the revolution you would not be here today………

Posted by: HUnter | September 28, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

The real story here is that Obama, the fool, had to look down and read the bracelet during the debate because he couldn’t remember the soldier’s name. It seems that only the name “Obama” is important to Obama.

Posted by: Aaron | September 28, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

LOL! “Rove the Architect,” I cannot believe you are defending McCain the cowardly, self-important fool …
I mean, the guy actually dragged the memory of a dead solider into a Presidential Debate, to show his commitment to the military?
Even your namesake knows he’s a liar. Too bad you are not smart enough to break away from your party’s Scientology-like grip.
Maybe you could ask McCain if he might pop round to help with that … but then again, no guarantee he’ll actually follow-through …

Posted by: RovesAMoron | September 28, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

WOW Chas how many times have you seen Red Dawn anyway? Traitor? Why because we disagree? Maybe you should be the one moving to North Korea. It seems like you feel that everyone who doesn’t agree with you is some sort of lesser being worthy of condemnation. That’s not what this country is about.

Posted by: JeezOman | September 28, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

An estimated 125 people were shot and killed in Chicago over this summer. That’s nearly double the number of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq over the same time period. Since Obama now claims to understand the surge’s success in Iraq, will he try it in his hometown where murders in Chicago exceed troop deaths
in Iraq? More people, where he lives and represents, were shot dead than in Iraq and the population in Iraq is roughly 5 times greater than Chicago. Interesting.

Posted by: Rocky Dawg | September 28, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Lee said: FYI, the 9/11 attacks on AMERICA occurred on 9/11/2001. BUSH was “in charge”. Incompetence in the wake of Katrina wiped out a unique and gorgegeous AMERICAN city. BUSH was “in charge”. The biggest financial meltdown in generations in AMERICA has put our economy on the brink of disaster. BUSH was “in charge.”
The attack was within the first 9 months of Bush’s Presidency. The fact that it happened then, is a moot point. The fact that there was viable knowledge it would happen, was under Clintons administration.
As for the name calling, it truly invalidates the arguments, or opinions. Belittling anyone that disagrees with you, only proves one thing to me. You condone Obama’s tactics , attacking, and trying to squash freedom of speech toward anyone that dares to disagree with you, and that my friends validates the arguments that people make against Obama.

Posted by: Jeanie | September 28, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Amen Ben… I can’t wait to hear when people start complaining how they can’t afford things, because the increased taxes caused corporations to raise their rates. And/or how many don’t have jobs because the corporations moved their businesses overseas! I’ll give Obama one thing.. he isn’t going to raise taxes on 95% of Americans, he’s going to let the corporations do it for him!

Posted by: dlh | September 28, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

this “controversy” is just another piece of proof that you can be Republican or you can be American. But you can’t be both.

Posted by: Dave | September 28, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

It’s Too bad Obama didn’t say “Senator McCain, I have a bracelet too, and I voted FOR the latest GI Bill white YOU voted against the most recent GI Bill, Now why did YOU vote against the last GI Bill Senator?”
Too bad McCain wears a bracelet to *supposedly* honor vets/soldiers, yet he voted AGAINST these same vets/soldiers time after time when he was in the senate….SAD and PATHETIC….

Posted by: Brigette_J | September 28, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

All of you posting the stories that prove this article is bs, you are wasting your time. It’s like trying to debate fundamentalists, truth and rationalization never works. They just do not care about the facts at all. Sad really.

Posted by: sk | September 28, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

JOHN,
Obama’s tenuous association with William Ayers is not grounds on which to disqualify him from seeking the highest office in the land. He, OBAMA, does not espouse or support Ayers’ views! That’s like saying Saudi Arabia and Egypt are US allies, and hence, Americans support ‘polygamy’ or ‘cane whipping’ which are both legitimate under the Sharia laws of those countries.
Your multiple “143 days” references are completely irrelevant! Remember that “143 days” means different time frames across different professional fields. Michael Phelps won eight gold medals in just one Olympics tournament; there are thousands of athletes who have attended three or four Olympics tournaments who have NEVER won a medal, let alone bronze or silver. Time is just an absolute term: what is important is that innate potential in someone for optimal efficiency and achievement within a specified time frame.
There is no debating the point that OBAMA has spent a far shorter time compared with other men and women in the Congress (don’t forget his Illinois legislative experience though). It’s not like he doesn’t have any experience at all. He possesses the potential for leadership as millions who voted for him thought during the Primaries.

Posted by: Guillaume Cilini | September 28, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Tapper, I hope you’re at least a little ashamed. Really. This nasty little business of yours was of course picked up by Drudge, who has reverted to his sniveling ways as a sniveling right-wing shill.
It’s a crazy invasion of a family’s grief. Naturally, the right wing froot loops will think they can make hay with it. Of course, this is exactly why McCain is going down in flames – he and his flock focus endlessly on the small stuff, looking for some new distraction.
Thankfully, this crack at “lipstick 2.0″ will fail – there are too many huge things going on. We are at last beyond these stupid distractions.
As I said before, neither McCain nor Obama should refer to individual dead soldiers. They should stop it. It is McCain who leans on this ALL THE TIME, and his disgrace is greater.

Posted by: Tungsten | September 28, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

She wanted Obama to know Ryan’s name but he um ah um forgot this fine young soldiers name while trying to use the braclet as a debate prop.

Posted by: s.b. | September 28, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Posted by: USA4OBAMA | Sep 28, 2008 8:41:04 PM
Not even close… I’m part of the laid off middle class whose company moved their business overseas! AND not sure I like either of the guys running, but do have the common sense to read between the lines and follow the facts!

Posted by: dlh | September 28, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

I have found that those who are the most bellicose about patriotism, are also those who have done the least to preserve it. Chickenhawks abound on the internet.
Let’s compare McCain vs. Obama’s records on veterans benefits:
GI Bill
Obama – For it
McCain – Against it. In fact not only was he against it, but he actively tried to scuttle it.
VA Health Care Funding
Obama – Voted to fully fund the VA.
McCain – Voted against it. Said it was wasteful.
VA Classification
Obama – Wants to preserve the current system so that million of vets can get the care we deserve.
McCain – Wants to restrict VA eligibility to only the most grievously wounded thus throwing million of vets off the rolls.
The choice is clear, Obama is better for vets.
Compare their vote records at:
Disabled American Vets
http://dav.capwiz.com/bio/id/192
http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?category=66&go.x=15&go.y=10&can_id=53270&type=category

Posted by: Sean | September 28, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

BIRGETTE_J,
Good point on your part for raising the “Vets bill,” I don’t know why OBAMA could have forgotten that. It would have ended the debate right there!!!!

Posted by: Guillaume Cilini | September 28, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Why is Sen. McCain exploiting his POW experience?
It must have been a painful time for him, but it has little to do with current economic conditions, healthcare, and global warming.
Sen. McCain doesn’t get it at all, and even the Bush administration disagrees with him now.

Posted by: Rodham Democrat | September 28, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

It’s Obama that will lead America back to greatness an I welcome a new direction for all citizens of this fine country. We shall see Obama transform into one of the greatest presidents in American history.

Posted by: Excited for our Future | September 28, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

maybe Obama should have debated Biden last friday….didn’t Biden vote for the Iraq war? The dummy voted for the 2nd Iraq war but not the first one when the whole world supported it. And they want to call Palin an idiot.

Posted by: cgarg | September 28, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

No, I admit I’m an intellegent “undecided” who is leaning towards voting facts against talk and have the brains to know the difference!

Posted by: dlh | September 28, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

GOPlyingagain, that was fantastic. I could not agree more.
By the way, I love how all of the posts like that claim they are “lifelong democrats” or something like that. Hehehe, that always makes me laugh.

Posted by: sk | September 28, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Clay_NC: I watched the video. To me it is a patchwork of material mostly taken out of context to create a propaganda piece designed to movtivate people to hate. It does not inspire patriotism. I believed from the beginning that Iraq was taking our eyes off the goal and anyone who plays basketball or any other sport knows well to keep the goal in mind. Al Qaeda was based in Afghanistan—Osama Ben Laden is there or near there—we blinked and went after Sadam Hussein—why? I am willing to trust Obama to get us out of there, build up the military, and refocus our sights on real enemy.

Posted by: George | September 28, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Traitor?? WTF?? How the hell does a company I gave 19 years to – lay ME off to give MY job to some idiot overseas, make me a traitor??

Posted by: dlh | September 28, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

This story has already been discredited. . . .but Tapper, you seem to want to keep it going. How about actually talking with the mother of the soldier ???? Get the FACTS. . something Drudge nor the GOP are interested in these days !!!!!! And who cares anyway. . . the ‘bracelet’ is a non-issue. What’s more important is WHO will END THE OCCUPATION in Iraq, and get serious about our role in World affairs. This is a typical DISTRACTION tactic. . .while important policy issues are ignored. Tragic. . .because we can dumb-down the American public so much. . .that we won’t KNOW ANYTHING pretty soon. Reminds me of Germany in the 30′s. . .better pay attention people!!!

Posted by: BJ | September 28, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Obama has no shame. He is the worst candidate ever for president. How can he become the president of a country he, many of his close friends, and his wife hate. It will be stupidity at its highest if Obama is elected president.

Posted by: speedy_453 | September 28, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Diane in Dallas,
You can thank Congressional Democrats for any restriction on Constitutional rights. Also, you can thank Democrats, Obama among them, for our present state of the economy.

Posted by: chas | September 28, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Senator Obama’s comment about the bracelet was appropriate. As he did throughout the first debate, he called Senator MCain on the dishonest appeal to “honor” and “country.” Senator McCain hides behind these wonderful words and what they truly stand for. The news media is reporting on a conflict between the divorced parents of a fallen soldier – really callous! And the Republicans are using it – even more so! And when I read posters who claim that supporters of Senator Obama are not truly patriots and should go to Russia (what is this, 1956?) I have to laugh. My ancestors have been here since the 1600′s. They fought in the Revolutionary War. I am a supporter of Senator Obama and completely reject the presumptuousness of anyone who dares to claim I am somehow not patriotic.

Posted by: Wiscon108 | September 28, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

The media is doing everything within their power to elect Obama, including lie, cheat, and fabricate the truth and Obama’s history to benefit him. He can do no wrong — it will never be published, or the media will find a way to blame Bush and McCain.
I voted for Obama in the primary. He now makes me sick — his arrogance is nausiating.

Posted by: mom | September 28, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

On television today a Democratic operative pointed out that when Obama holds a rally 25-30,000 people show up, whereas when McCain holds one he only draws 10-15,000.
The Republican spokesman replied, “That’s because McCain’s supporters are at work.”

Posted by: Charles in Jacksonville | September 28, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Obama cares for NOTHING but himself. He is a NEOPHITE and a MEGALOMANIAC. How can he even be compared to McCain, who comes from a long line of american patriots. I guess next liberals will want to move the nation’s capital to a foreign country.

Posted by: speedy_453 | September 28, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

I’m gonna post this again since there is so much hate in most of these comments…
I have found that those who are the most bellicose about patriotism, are also those who have done the least to preserve it. Chickenhawks abound on the internet.
Let’s compare McCain vs. Obama’s records on veterans benefits:
GI Bill
Obama – For it
McCain – Against it. In fact not only was he against it, but he actively tried to scuttle it.
VA Health Care Funding
Obama – Voted to fully fund the VA.
McCain – Voted against it. Said it was wasteful.
VA Classification
Obama – Wants to preserve the current system so that million of vets can get the care we deserve.
McCain – Wants to restrict VA eligibility to only the most grievously wounded thus throwing million of vets off the rolls.
The choice is clear, Obama is better for vets.

Posted by: Sean | September 28, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Jake Tapper. You keep habitually opening some mighty ugly cans of worms. Please clean up your act.

Posted by: KrisB9 | September 28, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

Dems win the Congress again; Dems win the White House; Dems replace how many Supreme Court Justices during this tenure?
Dems control all 3 branches of the federal government. THAT SPELLS THE OBOMINATION OF THE USA.
Reason enough to vote John McCain/Sarah Palin 08.

Posted by: Beth | September 28, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

I am confused about the comments sent here qualifying Obama’s response as shameless. what is shameless is that a mother of a dead soldier is pressured to get her son’s story off the media, and off Obama’s speech lines. It is shameless to silence someone who has lost a son in a conflict and who has a different view. Is Mme Jopek pain lighter than Mme Stanley pain, just because her view does not agree with yours.

Posted by: jmb | September 28, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

USA4OBAMA, Why no reply to why I’m a traitor when MY company too MY job and gave it to someone overseas?? THIS is why I’m leaning towards McCain!
“better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

Posted by: dlh | September 28, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

“George Washington wanted better for America.”
First, George Washington would blush at his own military career compared to John McCains. There aren’t to many men still alive that have given more for their country then John McCain. PERIOD!
Second, George Washington would cringe at the thought of a man like Obama, who associates with a terrorist that wants to bring down the very government that General Washington fought to create.
It’s quite easy to identify who the real patriot is here. All you have to do is look at the mens records. Words aren’t even necessary.

Posted by: Jack Jenkins | September 28, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

To Slap A Liberal:
I thought you conservatives had everything sowed up for being the only true patriots.
But your views about moving your money and jobs out of the country convinced me otherwise.
Thanks for helping me make my mind up that the only way to save this country is to vote for liberals.
Go ahead slap me!
Now, why don’t you contemplate about how flat the earth is and leave reasonable minds alone.

Posted by: Steve T | September 28, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

liberal Democrats are Destroying This Great nation….
You mean the last 8 years of BUSH has destroyed our economy!
Uh NO! WE MEAN THE LAST FEW YEARS OF A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS DESTROYED OUR ECONOMY…and our ENERGY PROGRAM….and (almost….) the WAR ON TERROR in Iraq!
Btw, WHY couldn’t the Dems vote on the bailout package they had “agreed” on Thursday noon? WHY did they NEED MINORITY House REPUBLICANS?????

Posted by: Beth | September 28, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Why was this story printed since it states in the story that the headline turned out to be a lie? Why put up a headline saying Obama didn’t have permission, and then write in the story that it wasn’t true? That being the case, why even bother printing the story. Oh I know, because many read the headline and not the story. The mother was pleased that he wore the bracelet. I’m starting to think Tapper just likes to give us stuff to argue about. STICK TO THE FACTS and stop MISLEADING people!

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

I asked my friend’s little girl what she wants to be when she
grows up.
She said she wanted to be President some day.
Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so
I asked her,
If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?
She replied, I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people.
Wow…what a worthy goal. I told her, you don’t have to wait until you’re President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I’ll pay you $50. Then I’ll take you over to
the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the
$50 to use toward food and a new house.
She thought that over for a few seconds while her Mom glared at me, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, Why doesn’t the
homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50? I said, Welcome to the Republican Party.
Her folks still aren’t talking to me.
McCain/Palin – for real Americans!

Posted by: Let the Truth be your Guide | September 28, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

“But your views about moving your money and jobs out of the country convinced me otherwise.”
Vote for Obama. Obama raises taxes on corporations. Corporations move their operations offshore. Corporations hire workers offshore. Your job is now gone forever. Brilliant idea Obama. What a genius. Can you ask Resko to fix up my housing project? Or maybe just get William Ayers to blow it up?

Posted by: Jack Jenkins | September 28, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

I have notified my attorney and account to move all of my liquid assets to an over seas account and since I am a small buisness owener and is the evil by BHO’s definition, I am not going to make sure I draw less than what ever limit he place son me to raise my taxes. I am also in the process of givin a riff notice to 35 of my employees for the end of December. I will not be a part of the redistribution of wealth to lazy people.Every one of those people are now making over 110,000.00/year. I am going to ask all other small buisness owners to add to this blog with their future plans for their company.
The only way back to having conservatives running the country is for all of us to unite and lower the amount of revenue that these liberals plan on receiving.

Posted by: agile | September 28, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

To Slap A Liberal (part two):
You would be the first one accusing liberals of being traitors if they posed the same type of views.
Advocating deliberately moving jobs and money out of this country for no other reason than selfishness is about as treacherous as it comes.
You are not an American. America: My Way or the Highway went out in the 60s.
Get a clue.

Posted by: Steve T | September 28, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

BTW people,
Economy 101: If taxes are raised to a corporation or company;;;; guess what,, the price to us consumers is raised… thus this equals a tax raise on everyone.
This is just common sense people.
FYI: company’s are not in buisness to lose money.

Posted by: AGILE | September 28, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

It is a sad state of affairs when an unpatriotic dangerous man like Obama is the best the democrats could put forward. Oh, I forget they had a decent candidate but they screwed her over. Shame on you liberal democrats.

Posted by: speedy_453 | September 28, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Jack, my job was already sent over seas, by George W. Bush. Keep your BS to yourself. Obama will provide tax breaks for corporations who keep jobs hear in America, so we have jobs and don’t have to talk to an idiot from India when we call the phone company. This didn’t start until after 2000.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

USA4Obama you are a great American!

Posted by: Proud Lib | September 28, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

OK……someone just said this to me,,,and I quote..
“”"”"Looks like your vote in michigan is wasted. Idiot!”"”"”
I’m not sure where you are form, but you sound like you are form somewhere on the east cost. Well if so…that means you are a Nothing But Leftist Liberal PIG! Now lets discuss the Leftists.
The Leftists are trying to take over our Capitalistic Markets. They Will instead Control Them From Washington…… Those of us that here in FlyOver Country have had ENOUGH
We’ve had ENOUGH Of the Leftist environmental Wack Jobs Not letting our nation build more refineries to help our nation deal with the gasoline shortage. They Blame the Fat Cats. Republicans don’t want the oil companies to treat us like the do, but the people who put these Left Wing law Makers into our Congress should own up to what is all of their fault!
We’ve had ENOUGH Of left wing judges believing that they have the education to re-write our constitution from their bench. If we let you elitist Left Wingers win, You will have our constitution model what ever the ACLU says it should.
We’ve had ENOUGH Of you far Left Anti-War Pacifists’ and Your ilk of Bomb Makers. You and Bill Ayers Are on the Same……Aren’t You All So Proud Of Your Wako Leader, and his Buddy Barack Husain Obama.
We’ve had ENOUGH Of all the people who say “Not God Bless America” “God Damn America!”. Oh Yeah, I forgot, That was a Buddy Of Borack Husain Obama That Said That as Well!
We’ve had ENOUGH Of you Leftist and Your Drive By Media Treating Our Republican Babe Like you are all so much better than her. Give Me A break…. You are than saying that you are better than 51% of America!,,,, Not a good idea when you are trying to elect your Savior. Barack Husain Obama!
We’ve had ENOUGH!

Posted by: derrek michigan | September 28, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

We are already communistic. Our phone calls are being monitored, we have more laws telling us what to do than we do telling us what NOT to do. The change is was referring to was changing us back into the democracy of freedom we once were.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Obama has said he would not wear a flag on his suit. Now he does. His reasons were
stuttering and halted as is his style. Now he wears a bracelet and his reasons are also stuttering and halted. An empty suit and the man who never was.

Posted by: story reports | September 28, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm

This is so typical of Barack Obama. Taking credit for something he has nothing to do with. Sound familiar?
He is a true do-nothing candidate and a lame duck before he is even elected.

Posted by: CameronGarcia | September 28, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

derrek michigan – I couldn’t have said it better myself. Do you think the Obama minions understand what you said?

Posted by: Albert | September 28, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

Derrek, not sure about your vote, but your 7 paragraph post was a waste. Most of the East coast are red states…being VA, NC, SC, GA, FL. All he meant was that Mi is a blue state, or at least has been for the past few elections. Don’t snap at someone because they disagree with you, that seems to be the problem in America right now.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

No, Barack, you may NOT have my rights… I’m still using them, especially the Second Amendment. The Bill of Rights is NOT negotiable, not any part… not ever. Defend freedom, defeat Obama.

Posted by: Evan | September 28, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

FYI: company’s are not in business to lose money.
Dems DO NOT KNOW THIS because most Dems live off of the government. They have NO CLUE about taking RISK, putting in LONG CHALLENGING HOURS, facing DISAPPOINTMENT sometimes – all that it takes to own/run a business.

Posted by: Beth | September 28, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

I’m an independent, but I’m leaning blue this year because I feel the red had their chance and screwed things up. After all we are going through right now after the past 8 years of GOP rule, give me ONE good reason to vote for McCain? Just one. Oh, and i’m not an obamabot or whatever new name you have now, but I clearly understood that statement, I just don’t understand why he made it.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

So the mother supports Obama but admits she had asked that he not wear the bracelet anymore or mention it in speeches. But she defends him today. Gee I wonder why? Who is the one with more reason to sway the facts a little here. Mrs Jopek, who wants Obama to win or Ryan’s father who was speaking in March.

Posted by: s.b. | September 28, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

This country is going to be destroyed if mccain is president

Posted by: change | September 28, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

So we get angry when we disagree? Detroit holds the majority of your voters, sorry.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

Beth,
The Congressional Democrats did not want to take sole responsibility for the garbage they had concocted. They wanted Republicans to share the blame because the original bill would compound problems. Republicans, with greater concern for the people, refused to sign off.
Read the following:
Let’s get one thing straight. We can assign a lot of blame for this crisis… there is certainly a lot to go around. Hubris and greed on Wall Street played a significant part…
But let’s not get so distracted that we forget the real irony here… namely that those who are now pretending to come to the rescue with solutions like knights on white horses — I’m talking about the men and women we elect to Congress — bear a large share of the blame! “They all lived off big campaign contributions and the swill of the lobbyists who strong armed them into permission to steal.”
Or to put it the words of Chuck Colson; “the people who are going to steer this plan through Congress are the very characters who brought us this crisis. And they are already looking for political and financial goodies they can hang on to the plan.” And, who is one of the main culprits? None other than “the savior” Barack Hussein Obama!
“But there is another cause of this crisis that we cannot ignore: the near-incestuous relationship between politicians and big-time government-supported financial institutions.”
“… Fannie and Freddie spent more than $200 million lobbying Congress over the past decade. Among politicians, Barack Obama ranked number three in terms of campaign contributions received from the two agencies–more than $100,000. His chief advisor in the vice-presidential vetting process is a former CEO of Fannie Mae.”
As our political leaders wrangle and haggle and jockey to score political points, let’s send them our own message. Let them know that we are not fooled… that the American people are fully aware of the roll they played in this mess.

Posted by: chas | September 28, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

It’s taken 8 years however America has finally woke up and realised that the GOP is a corrupt deceitful party.
Thank god for the death of conservatism.
Obama/Biden 2008

Posted by: Proud Lib | September 28, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

By the way, McCain didn’t forget the soldiers name and have to look down to read it on his bracelet, Obama did.
That’s the difference.
The mother by the way wants Obama to win and is obviously making stuff up today. Ryan’s father was interviewed in March. That’s also a difference.

Posted by: s.b. | September 28, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

All the problems in the world, and you guys are over a bracelet that Obama clearly had permission to use. If anything, you guys complaining about this are putting the death of that boy in shame and in vein, not Obama. Your using it to make your political points, how can you do that with a clear conscious?

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

You think McCain gives a damn about veterans. Look up his voting record and then tell me you still believe it. But you won’t because you want to continue believing things that have already been proven false. So hide your head in the sand, listen to soundbites about Obama and take them for fact and vote McCain. You morons are the reason we’re in the mess we’re in. Voted twice for W and his cronies who have run this country in the ground. Now you’re ready for round two…!!!!

Posted by: pamp205 | September 28, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Both of them used others to further their own ambitions. Sounds like they belong on Wall Street. Oh well, most people don’t care about the real issues. The important ones like the Economy, national security ect…. Vote McCain/Palin. At least you know what you’ll get, even if it isn’t much.

Posted by: ben | September 28, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Responding to comments above about GOP and McCain vs voting democrat– consider that Congress under Pelosi has a 9% approval rating currently, even Bush is more than double that. The democrats have failed far worse than the GOP. Where are they with the bailout – only the republicans have stood up against Paulsen and the bloated plan. Obama like Pelosi and the democrat controlled congress are all talk and wht wrong action look at the last 2 years – thats reason to vote for McCain – don’t give them all the branches of government…imagine all 3 with 9% approval ratings.

Posted by: Bret in Wisconsin | September 28, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

Personally neither candidate should have worn a bracelet for political gain. If they wanted to honor a dead troop they should have sent the family money or something of that nature. But since we’re on the subject, i’ll say this…her son would NOT BE DEAD if the GOP had not have sent him into a war in which we had no business being in. Iraq didn’t attack us, bin laden did…and he’s a long ways from Iraq. Face it, you guys bombed the wrong nation.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm

Albert
Thanks…..Sorry for getting so upset. I have a hard time with Liberals…. You are right……I am very sure that there is no possible way that any liberal could have understood the 7 paragraphs I let lose on…… Libs have no clue about what it is to realy be an American. There are lost in their own ideology that will only lead them and this nation to doom!. There is know way to control them , because they are now in control of our schools and universities. There are going to be on control of our Courts and our Capitalist Markets. It is not difficult to feel Defeated, But We Must Not!!! We must stand up to this SOCIALIST AGENDA!!!!!!!!!! WE MUST STAND UP FOR OUR CONSERVATIVE VALUES!!!!!! Our Christian Beliefs.

Posted by: derrek michigan | September 28, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

it’s funny that those who never had the guts to sacrifice time and safety by putting on a US uniform and going to battle seem that they can lecture the rest of us in uniform about our support for Senator Obama.
it must be great sitting around in safety in the rear, GOP. anytime any of you wants to stop talking about the troops and actually serve as one, we have a uniform ready for you.

Posted by: Soldier | September 28, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

John – How can you say that the Republicans had their chance, now you’re for Obama? Did you just move to the United States less than 2 years ago, or do you not remember how good it was until Nancy Pelosi and her democrats took over congress. in 2006 gas was $2.36, Pelosi is quoted saying (paraphrased), “Vote for the Democratic ticket, we have a plan to lower gas prices! We will tax the greedy oil companies and tax the rich.”
If you notice, John, gas is now over $4. Wow, what a plan! And you want to vote Obama into the Presidency, giving the Democrats complete control over the Executive branch AND the House of Representative and the Senate?
Are you nuts?

Posted by: Albert | September 28, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

I come to the conclusion that these blogs are useless. Two parties at war with each other, neither side really ‘discussing’ FACTS, just calling each other a poo poo head…nothing can be accomplished like this and nobody is going to change their mind no matter what happens at this point. The election is going to come down to independents, and independents look at issues and facts, not bickering. For me, I don’t care who bashes who or who did what…the logic for me is simple as an independent. A GOP President had 8 years and failed, it’s time to give the other side a chance, the logic is that simple. That is why i’m voting for Obama in November.
Democrats have been presidents before, and it didn’t turn us into a socialist state by any means, I go by what I remember and I had money to spare in the 90′s and lost it all in this last administration. In fact, these presidents have done some great things is history…as have some republicans. When are some people, dems and GOP alike, going to forget about RED states and Blue states, what ever happened to the UNITED States? It’s people like this which lead to our divided nation.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

This is another example of the sharp differences between Obama and McCain.
Obama is a phony who is no more genuine than a South-side pimp.
McCain is the real deal in everything he says and does.

Posted by: Ben | September 28, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

Chas:
Thanks for the reply. WE do NEED to contact these Congresspeople and let them know…email, snailmail, phone.
Also need to contact the media. Like Derrek said, WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!
Wonder if there is a petition circulating? Will check it out.

Posted by: Beth | September 28, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

You guys/gals confirm that ABC is in the tank for Obama

Posted by: Mr. Mike | September 28, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

TO ALL MY FRIENDS….LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE…FYI only.*
*George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.*
*A little over one year ago
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high–14,000 +
5) Americans were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!
But Americans wanted ‘CHANGE’! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes–we got ‘CHANGE’ all right.
In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!;
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low – $2.5 TRILLION HAS EVAPORATED FROM
THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!
YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED20FOR CHANGE…AND WE SURE GOT IT! ….*
REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.*
AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.*
NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!!!!
JUST HOW MUCH MORE ‘CHANGE’ DO YOU THINK YO U CAN STAND?
“In God We Trust”

Posted by: TEX | September 28, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm

Boy, that Drudge headline was misleading. But that’s typical of him.

Posted by: Patrick | September 28, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Albert, i’m a born America with a wife and two kids. When Clinton was in I was paying 1.19 a gallon for gas. I had money in my pocket, we were not in any major wars and I felt I had a real future. The dems have only had congress for less than two years, and Bush Vetoed nearly every bill they sent him. By the way, you know how the dems got the House and Senate? Because America was fed up with the GOP party. Before that, the GOP had congress and the white house for 6 years…which is why we are where we are today. The GOP can have the House and Senate, I think it’s time to give the other side a chance at the White House.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

So if the GOP/America was doing so good during those 6 years(Not 7 1/2), why did America choose to fire them from the House and Senate in 2006?

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

Good for SuperMom Jopek! It’s sad this is about a tug of war divorce instead of two honorable fallen soldiers.
Obama seemed to be thinking about why he had to do this. He didn’t forget Sgt. Jopek’s name. It comes off more like ‘I didn’t want to have to do this, but I don’t think his mother would object.’ And Obama was proven correct. Grow up, McCain supporters. One of the pandering lines was cut down on live TV. Too bad.
When all John McCain has left are falsehoods and lies, there is not much remaining of John McCain. Do you know that in his book he said his reason for running (for the third time now) was anything but ‘country first.’ It explains why he wanted to deny other POW families information about their loved ones. Yes, yes, he did actively put through a bill that did just that.
“I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to become president. … In truth, I’d had the ambition for a long time.”
It was put very nicely this morning…”Why isn’t anybody asking him about this now? For example, “Senator McCain, what has changed since you wrote this statement that would make your current campaign something other than a drive to fulfill your own personal ambition? In what ways do you seek to serve the country as president?” Etc. Not a peep from the media about this.”

Posted by: kravitz | September 28, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

This mortgage crises wouldn’t be so pathetic if it wasn’t for the fact the ones who caused it are now the one’s who supposedly are going to fix it.Barney Frank,Dodd ,Schummer ,Pelosi are a disgrace . Obama stammering to remember the soldiers name then having to look at the bracelet to see the guys name was pathetic.

Posted by: ChimpyObama | September 28, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

I don’t know if ABC is in the tank for anyone…but I do know they allow for free and immediate speech here…more than can be said for fox.

Posted by: Beth | September 28, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

Lets not forget McCain’s campaign is run by the same lobbyists that caused this mess.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

I don’t know how anyone can paint Obama as a liberal … let alone a socialist. He still hasn’t told us much of anything he is going to do. Neither has McCain for that matter.
How many times have Middle Class Americans, like myself, been told be a candidate they were going to lower Middle Class taxes only to find out they were completely missed by some sort of misguided targeted tax cut?
Unless I see specifics – what rate for what tax bracket and what credits for which citizens – I won’t be voting for either of these candidates.

Posted by: SW | September 28, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm

The current mess with Fannie and Freddie is primarily a democrat-created mess. In fact, Obama’s chief financial advisor is the former CEO of Fannie Mae. Even Bill Clinton admitted this recently when he said that “the republicans and I worked to put some restraints on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the 90′s but my own party resisted”. And all together children…which particular republican was leading the charge back then to reign in these two entities…think on it…real hard…yep…ding ding ding…John McCain.

Posted by: Walt | September 28, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

As a 100% service connected disabled veteran I will vote for Obama this year.

Posted by: jhs | September 28, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

The GOP seem to call everyone else liberals and socialists when they start losing. Again, i’m an independent, I voted for Bush in 2000(My bad). It seems during this election, the dems are giving me alot of facts that cannot be disputed, where the GOP debaters are giving me lies and opinions. I’m a logical person, so i’m making a logical choice this year. Obama/Biden 08! I’m done arguing with people who clearly can’t be accountable for the past 8 years, good night.

Posted by: John | September 28, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

I am extremely shocked at the hateful, racist remarks being made in the claim of being conservative. PLEASE you FAKES! Some of you are still fighting the Civil War and its a pity, shame and against American principles.
The Constitution was founded on everyone having the right to equal treatment, freedom of religion, freedom of speach, freedom of Arms and some have even been amended or added along the way due to changes in our soceity. FREEDOM is the word.
Conservatives believe in family with firm religous beliefs. Good people, kind, generous and caring. Where does it teach you to treat people unlike you would want to be treated with hate because of their name, skin color, financial status or religion? Who are you to judge? The word of the lord tells you in the bible that judging is not up to us but to God. Bottom line, these comments that are hateful here make conservatives look bad.
The reason other countries hate us is because the actions and words of the people who have been in office with supposed conservative views.
ANYONE is better than the GOP at this time.

Posted by: An American | September 28, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Well I know what would change my mind or make me vote for the other party…….
Telling me I am stupid and being really mean.
Nothing says, “Please examine these facts and don’t make a decision just yet,” Then telling me how bud I am and pointing out all my issues.
That goes for all sides here.
But the Republicans tend to be nicer.
Play nice kids!

Posted by: Just Saying | September 28, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Fantastic….
Looks like I am dumb!
The internet needs spell check.
Sorry about that.
But still play nice.

Posted by: Just Saying | September 28, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

McCain is becoming to be, more a traitor than a hero, by making Karl Rove, who trashed him in the 2000 primaries against George Bush,Chief Manager of his 2008 campaign, and chosing Palin, a total ZERO in Foreign Policies, only b/c this could help his campaign……..So Conservative values are to LIE as you’re doing in your obnoxious campaign, to STEAL elections as you did in 2000, to put an ZERO at a heartbeat of being Commander in Chief ?!!!!!
Country First ?!!! MY FOOT !!!!!!!…..Obama/Biden’08

Posted by: skyglider2008 | September 28, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

dear bjkidd,
the only way corporations can pay taxes is from the sale of their products/services. So if you raise taxes on corporations, they will raise their prices. On he average, 25% of the cost of every product you buy are the embedded taxes the corporations pay. In other words, quit wishing that the products you buy would be more expensive.

Posted by: saintknowitall | September 28, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

If Obama had his way he would pull our troops out of Iraq too soon. Obama does not understand how the military works because he never was in the military.
HE DID NOT SERVE!!! It is that simple.

Posted by: TMA | September 28, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

John, If you remember by the time Bush took office the economy was sliding into a recession, and then – BAM! – the Islamic terrorists whom Clinton didn’t pursue hit us on Sept. 11. The economy nearly came crashing down, too, but Bush’s economic recovery policies prevented this from happening. During Bush’s presidency the left-wing liberals (including the liberal main stream media) was very effective in their vitriolic hammering on how Bush was the devil and won Congress.
Now look at the libs, hammering on how Obama is the Messiah.
Go figure!

Posted by: Albert | September 28, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

I don’t know how anyone can paint Obama as a liberal … let alone a socialist.
Have you checked his VOTING RECORD yet??…in both the Illinois and US Senates??

Posted by: Beth | September 28, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

If McCain wears a gold bracelet, then Obama will wear a gold plated bracelet. Gold bracelet is sometime hollow inside, gold plated bracelet is solid copper. Obama ought learn it from the communist.

Posted by: Kevin P | September 28, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years.
The first six the economy was fine.
However, a little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19/gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high–14,000+
5) American”s were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!…
But American”s wanted ”CHANGE”! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress & yes–we got ”CHANGE” all right!…..
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted ;
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!!;
3) Unemployment is up to 6% (a 20% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by 12 TRILLION DOLLARS & prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~11,300–$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!
*YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE!…AND WE SURE GOT IT!!!….NOW the DEM”S CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT–AND THE POLLS SAY HE”S GONNA BE ”THE MAN”–CLAIMS HE”S GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE!!….JUST HOW MUCH MORE ”CHANGE” DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND???*

Posted by: anon | September 28, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Pretty sick for the family of a dead soldier to use their own child for political purposes.
My guess is that they spend too much time listening to Fox News or AM radio and they think that anyone who’s against the war is evil.
Maybe they could more constructively deal with their guilt over making all the wrong decisions which lead to their son’s death by helping other parents from having their children die unnecessarily.

Posted by: Bill | September 28, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Once again the GOP show what slimeballs they are. The mother of the dead soldier was ecstatic Obama mentioned her son. The GOP using dead soldiers for political gain again. What else is new?

Posted by: Iraq Vet | September 28, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

Oh please. Can this campaign possibly mire itself even deeper in … ahem … stuff? Bracelets have nothing to do with who should be president. Can we get on to something more important?

Posted by: AI | September 28, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

I don’t know how anyone can paint Obama as a liberal … let alone a socialist.
A leopard CANNOT change its SPOTS.
A NOBAMA WILL NOT change HIS POLITICS.

Posted by: Beth | September 28, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

William Ayers has a ring made out of metal from USA fighter jets shot down over ‘Nam, and given as a gift also to Bernadine Dorhn, for their efforts in bombing buildings in the USA in the 60s and 70s.

Posted by: Colonel Reb | September 28, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Picture a new police officer in the country’s largest city. Fresh out of the academy with exactly 143 days of on the job experience. No accomplishments to speak of on his record of service, never supervised other officers, never managed a budget, experience in only one department.
This officer, after just 143 days on the job, announces he is seeking the position of Police Commisioner of the largest city in the country.
Do you promote him?

Posted by: TAH | September 28, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

They are all a bunch of Clowns, Neither have the Average Joe’s best interest in mind.

Posted by: John E. Owens | September 28, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

Not surprised at this. This man screams OPPORTUNIST. Case in point is his comment that John McCain had nothing to do with the deal brokered in Washington. And this from the man who didn’t even want to return. Most definitely Obama over honor, principles, country every single time. Americans should be skeptical and afraid of this man who associates with people who profess hatred for this country. Just why does he want to be President if he doesn’t love it? And how does he expect us to accept his contradictory statements? He takes us for fools and if we vote for him, we are. He needs to write another book and simply call it THE AUDACITY.

Posted by: Connor | September 28, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

Comment by Notorrius and Mad as Hell
September 28th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
you Know when 911 happened everyone wanted revenge so Bush gave you revenge then when he went into Iraq some of you screamed no war.
Let me tell you I had rather fight them over in Iraq then in the Streets of America.
I have lost a son in War but He went to war on his own and I am sick and tired of you people who say our troops don’t want this war .
READ MY WORDS MOST THAT WENT WANTED IT OVER THERE NOT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now some of you want Obama who has never supported anyone but his own self.
My Son was a very Proud 19 year old Marine. I am A PROUD MOM. Who Supports McCain

Posted by: jeanette | September 28, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

From the AP article:
Tracy Jopek said she didn’t hear the interview but that her ex-husband, who is currently stationed in Cuba, mischaracterized her viewpoint.
“I think he knew my intention, he understands it was a gesture between me and Sen. Obama,” she said. “It was just a little piece of peace for us. I don’t understand how people can take that and turn it into some garbage on the Internet.”
…You heard the woman, stop using her and her loss as props for your hateful propaganda, or, as she calls it, “garbage”. She thought that Obama’s mention of her son in the debate was “appropriate”, and it was she who gave him the bracelet, so please honor her wishes and give it up.

Posted by: William | September 28, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

Bracelets aside, what is killing American is entitlements. I defy anyone to find housing, healthcare, education or any of the arguments I have been hearing in the Constitution of the United States. There is a reason for that. Our Founding Fathers believed that these things could be earned if the government provided the necessary freedoms and liberties for each American to earn them. Entitlements will be the death of this great nation, and yes it is the greatest nation on the earth, if not stopped.

Posted by: AZBlogger | September 28, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

Iraq Vet – Would you mention the fallen soldier’s name if his family had asked you not to? Of course you wouldn’t. You have more honor than that – as evidenced by you serving in Iraq.
Unfortunately, the Junior Senator from Illinois – who wants to be elected your next Commander-in-Chief – doesn’t have the same honor code.
Heck, Obama won’t even salute the United States flag.

Posted by: Albert | September 28, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Open up the mind and observe very carefully. watch and notice everything. Such is called an awakening when you are aware of everything happening inside yourself and others.
Notice that Obama always says what is wrong with everything and everyone. He always says what is wrong with America, Bush, McCain, Congress, etc.
Never ever once does he say anything positive. he never offers any solutions to problems. He only finds problems.
People are making the error in their mind that because Obama notices problems that he will have solutions. That is not true. In fact it says the opposite. His mind is so wrapped up in negativity and what is wrong that he can not think of what is right. He will be a disaster.
Remember Castro promised words of change and hope and no solutions and cuba got 60 years of communist corruption and poverty.
The same will come to America if Obama is elected. He will pontificate all that is wrong with America and down she will go. fulfilling his opinion of America.
Better to elect McCain and Palin who with a positive attitude will fix up America and lead us to more greatness.
Obama is already a Communist Marxist like Castro. So your choice is clear. Become like Cuba or maintain a free and prosperous America under McCain and Palin.

Posted by: Democrat All My LIfe | September 28, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Don’t you think it’s rather simplistic to blame the current economic meltdown on one man (Bush)? He’s really not that powerful.
The root of the economic meltdown is the mortgage housing crisis. I think a large part of the “blame” rests with the American people. So many home-buyers signed up for mortgages that they KNEW would increase in a few months…but they had to have the big house right then & there. All of a sudden when their monthly payment increased, they suddenly become “victims”? Read the fine print…and take a lesson from the older generation: start out smaller & live within your means.

Posted by: Shawn | September 28, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Should Obama’s “Truth Squad” arrest this family for causing an interruption to Barak’s Mojo?

Posted by: Jonny D | September 28, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

Just another Case of “I can do anything you can do, but better…”
President McCain- Get used to it…
“Barry”- is not to be trusted..

Posted by: Richard | September 28, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Hey Nat Turner, read the freaking article:
“But — and here’s where it gets complicated — according to the AP story, Tracy Jopek also said she was “ecstatic” that Obama mentioned her son’s hero bracelet during Friday’s debate.”

Posted by: Derek | September 28, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

ABC lies!
MILWAUKEE – The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was “ecstatic” during Friday’s debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.
Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.
She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes.
She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she says Obama’s mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier’s mother gave him a bracelet.
Jopek says Obama’s comment rightfully suggested there’s more than one viewpoint on the war.

Posted by: tom Lattimer | September 28, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

What’s so pathetic is that it is THIS PARTICULAR man (Obama) that the dems have invested their hopes and dreams in. He is a fake person, with no real accomplishments.
As a hard-core conservative, I am not enthralled with John McCain…after all, he has been a thorn in the side of conservatism for some time, but he is a real person, with a real record.

Posted by: Walt | September 28, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Jeanette
May God bless you and our Fallen Solder, Your Son.
My nephew is on his second tour in CYOPS. Our Soldiers Deserve Our Prayers, Our Love and Our Tears Of Pride.

Posted by: derrek michigan | September 28, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

Again jake Tapper should be ashamed of his own article. Worst journalism ever.

Posted by: tom | September 28, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Obama has no honor. Kinda like an Prison Inmate. You can never trust him.
God bless our troops.
Semper Fi

Posted by: Showdown | September 28, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

I feel that Obama had a better connection with the bracelet…At least he looked at it and touched it…McCain basically tried to use his bracelet for political reasons…Anyway what was the Soldiers Name that was on McCain’s Bracelet?…I forgot.

Posted by: lanawonders | September 28, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

This is really a very sick place to be. It is my first time and it is my las time to be here. McSame people, you should be ashamed. What a sick bunch of people. So many lies. Hell will not have room for ya all

Posted by: toot | September 28, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

And The Great Fake Nobama said ” I have a braclet, too.” Well No Duh, He copies McCain as he can not think orginally, nor on his feet. Course that could be because he just has No experience.

Posted by: McCain For President | September 28, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

I like Obama’s new sogan: I have one too!

Posted by: Albert | September 28, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

I must need spell check. Let me rephrase that.
I like Obama’s new slogan: “I’ve got one, too!”
(how’s that?)

Posted by: Albert | September 28, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

The contortions the media goes through to apologize for and defend their Messiah never cease to amaze. What a convoluted pile of crap. Obama could care less about anyone in the Service or the mission they have laid their lives upon. This dude of the high elite respects only himself and other intellectual Marxist pretenders.

Posted by: Karpy | September 28, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

This is a Cindy Sheehan moment. Mama says OK for Obama to use bracelet, but Dada (who is in the service and on active duty) disagrees with Obama’s politics and says NO.
I suspect Sgt. Jopek has his father’s politics, just as Casey Sheehan had his father’s politics.
Obama should have been more sensitive to the wishes of the entire family, but I suppose he only had one bracelet he could use in his “me too” moment.

Posted by: unclesmrgol | September 28, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

AZblogger must not be able to interpret or understand Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. How happy would he be if he never recieved an education? Or maybe he received admission into school because of who his parents were, kind of like Joh McCain. If so, hopefully he made better use of the opportunity than John did!

Posted by: AZCommonSense | September 28, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

I’m an independent, but I’m leaning blue this year because I feel the red had their chance and screwed things up. After all we are going through right now after the past 8 years of GOP rule, give me ONE good reason to vote for McCain? Just one. Oh, and i’m not an obamabot or whatever new name you have now, but I clearly understood that statement, I just don’t understand why he made it.
Posted by: John | Sep 28, 2008 9:37:07 PM
You want a reason, Heres one that is not in the National news anywhere ::FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Saturday, September 27, 2008
Contact: Jessica Robinson, 573-751-0290
——————————————————————————–
Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement
JEFFERSON CITY – Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.
“St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.
“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.
If you want the whole Artical:http://governor.mo.gov/cgi-bin/coranto/viewnews.cgi?id=EkkkVFulkpOzXqGMaj&style=Default+News+Style&tmpl=newsitem

Posted by: Earl | September 28, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

this is for the folks with family in the services, if you give a bracelet to any politician, you can expect for them to use it to make a point, both men had one…

Posted by: Pete | September 28, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

“Let me, uh, just, uh, um check this guy’s name, uh, on this ah, uh, bracelet thingy I, uh, have here. He’s so, ah, special to me, that, I, um, have to ah, remind myself of ah, um, his name by, ah, looking, at, ah, the bracelet.”

Posted by: Rick | September 28, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

I guess the wingnuts like Jonah Goldberg don’t think that anyone is watching, but lots of us notice that they are always trying to find some tacky little issue to score points on. First it was Obama’s “failure” to wear a flag pin at a debate (never mind that McCain didn’t wear one when he spoke at the RNC convention), and now they have their shorts in a twist over this ridiculous bracelet thing.
I guess that obsessing on petty issues is what you do when you can’t win on the merits. The economy, the War in Iraq, the Wall St. Mess….
All losing positions for the GOP, hence we’re dealing with flag pin and bracelet issues. Oy.

Posted by: gizmo | September 28, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Obama, whether he is white, black, purple, orange, slightly navy blue, is NOT ready to be the leader of this country.
McCain is the real deal. He may not be perfect, but at least he has the honesty, integrity, experience and the REAL passion for our country.
Obama is just being a puppet reading from cue cards and memorized information so he appears to know what he is talking about. He is obviously a rookie being trained to give so – called powerful speeches. He may be younger, supposedly in great physical shape (although he smokes), dances on talk shows , delivers speeches with energy and says all the things that he thinks that the Dems WANT to hear, but that is NOT we are voting for.
We need someone with the INTELLIGENCE and HONESTY of McCain. He may not be like an energizer bunny, but at least he knows how to make the right decisions at the right times.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Best post of the night Rick, spot on :)

Posted by: Geo | September 28, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

Is this how ridiculous the presidential race has become? Arguing and arguing over a political message used unfairly by BOTH candidates?
If this is how bad it it has gotten, you deserve the government you get.

Posted by: Justin | September 28, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

USA4OBAMA,
You seem to be the type who is going to be wasting your time looking at polls.
Instead of looking at polls, go look up EVERYTHING you need to know about each candidate and not be one of those people who blindly vote Democrat just because that is what you do no matter what.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

John McCain needs to explain why he voted against the latest GI Bill. Support our troops? Not if you’re John McCain.

Posted by: Tom in Hastings | September 28, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

You know, I wear one of these bracelets. It is personal to me, occassionally people will ask what it is and why I wear it. I then tell them the story of my friend who gave everything. I look at our governement as a whole and want to puke. The dems want to have hearings, go on vacation, and tell us how crappy the country is. The republicans…well where the hell are the real republicans anymore? Both parties suck, look at the mess our country is in and look at congressional approval. Lets do as the forefathers have asked and revolt against this corrupt government and start fresh with some people that are not career politicians and lawyers.

Posted by: a soldier | September 28, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

So, Obama’s the “elitist?” Since when is being smart, working hard, and excelling in school and public service being “elitist?” Now seven houses and twelve cars and 50 lobbyists on your campaign–that’s elite!! (And McCain voted against the new GI Bill—nice.)

Posted by: wbrown | September 28, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

Barack Obama is a opportunist! Prior to the debate what I knew of Mr. Obama I felt he was not what our country needs at this time, after the debate, my hope is when he loses in Novemeber the defeat is so crushing to his enormous ego we never he from Barack Obama again!

Posted by: N Smith | September 28, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

This is getting to be quite entertaining.
Bottom line… whether the bracelets matter or not, McCain has more class, more experience, more knowledge and is genuine.

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

right on Timmy
Obama/JOE

Posted by: albright | September 28, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

God, these GOPer arguments are pathetic. The mother who gave him the bracelet said she was “ecstatic” at Obama’s mention of her son. Isn’t that the end? Her ex-husband (a McCain supporter) trying to distort her position and make points for his candidate is shameless.
The polls are piling up. Get ready, right wing nuts, for President Barack Obama. And unless you’re truly crazy (as many of you are), you may be pleasantly surprised with the results.

Posted by: Kilkee | September 28, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

Actually Americans are tired of the GOP scam machine which is why we will hold all 3 branches of government.
Conservatism is dead!

Posted by: Proud Lib | September 28, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

If Obama is so smart but didn’t do great during his “wasted” years as a teen in high school while doing drugs (by his own admission) how did he get into Harvard???? and why does he refuse any explination of this???
Oh and how does going to harvard automatically make obama sooooo smart but graduating from harvard and yale and Bush is stupid????

Posted by: smarter than dems | September 28, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Where’s the apology for writing such a bogus story in the first place using only all that wonderful red meat you gobbled up from the neocon pundits?
Have you no shame? Or is a paycheck worth more than the truth in your journalistic world?

Posted by: Augie | September 28, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Tapper = EPIC FAIL.
Rather than stirring up emotions on what is clearly an incredibly sensitive issue, please tell me that you at least *attempted* to check with Mrs. Jopek before you ran this story? Please tell me you did that?
This should NOT be a story. The whole POINT of Obama’s statement was that we SHOULD NOT BE POLITICIZING THE DEATHS OF OUR MILITARY. McCain has been using his bracelet to try to score points; Obama was simply saying that there are plenty of service people and military families who feel the opposite. We shouldn’t be trying to “score” off their work, their service, and their sacrifice.
And for those who say that Obama had to “read” the name of Sgt Jopek: he’s not “stammering” because he “forgot” Sgt Jopek’s name. Obama stopped to rephrase because he started to say that he got the bracelet from Sgt Jopek, but then corrected to say that he got the bracelet from the *mother of* Sgt Jopek. This might seem like nothing, but given the family’s split, and the fact that (obviously) Sen. Obama did not get the bracelet from the Sergeant himself, I think Obama was trying to be very careful in his wording. That’s what you saw in the “stammer.” Not forgetfulness, but thoughtfulness about his phrasing. Because, again, Obama wasn’t trying to “tell a good tale” in order to score points for his view. He was trying to say, “our troops are not tools to use for furthering our own ambitions.”
Anyone who wants to flog this story shows his or her lack of moral center. Patriotism and support for our military are NOT the province of own party, one candidate, or one political philosophy. We don’t have a “Republican Navy” or a “Democratic Army.” We are ONE country, whatever our disagreements, and our military proudly and bravely serves and protects the entire United States of America.

Posted by: thisniss | September 28, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

It’s so evident that the republicans are scared. Too bad. Your candidate is on the decline!!!!!

Posted by: donna | September 28, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Carrie: “Obama could not say anything without sounding like he knew what he was talking about. ”
Was I the only ‘liberal elite’ with a firm enough grasp of English to find Carrie’s “insult” of Obama amusing on many levels?

Posted by: jhw539 | September 28, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Polls, dolls, tolls, knolls, yadda yadda yadda….
McCain rules !!

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

McCain is out of touch and Palin is a complete airhead. I love watching the GOP implode!
Get your passports ready GOPers, your nightmare is about to be realised.
Obama 2008

Posted by: Citizen For Responsible Gov | September 28, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

Obama is a fraud. We Need the VOTER BOMB – Which mean we need to throw EVERYONE out of congress – EVERYONE.

Posted by: scobra | September 28, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Right wing freaks think they own our fallen soldiers. They are wrong.
Their pursuit of this non-story is sick, sick, sick.
We’ll see more of this as the McCain campaign slides off into oblivion.

Posted by: Tungsten | September 28, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

So much fuss about a bracelet, get a life. Curiously no one in the press talks about McCain being a traitor giving up US secret for a better treatment in Vietnam and now paraded US hero..? Guys , you are all a bunch of cretins …!

Posted by: Renee | September 28, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Have you looked at the polls today? MCCain is imploding. Maybe he should have looked at Obama during the debate. Give up…… this story is not going to change the polls. They both had bracelets and the mom is ecstatic that Obama mentioned her son’s bracelet. Tapper you’re a very lazy journalist. Don’t you have something better to write about. May I suggest the economy.

Posted by: pete | September 28, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Smarter than dems: “how did he get into Harvard???? and why does he refuse any explination of this???”
He spent two years at Occidental College, a small liberal arts school in LA. Then earned a ride to Columbia. Then earned his way into Harvard.
And he wrote a book providing an “explination” about this (in addition to it be public record).
While I have respect for Senator McCain, many of his supporters appear to be profoundly ignorant (or blatant liars).

Posted by: jhw539 | September 28, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Drudge has refused to update this story…

Posted by: Chima Ordu | September 28, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

jhw539,
oh, so sorry “elite” liberal, it is getting quite late so excuse me while I correct myself…
“Obama sounded like a moron” during the debate.
There you have oh elite liberal who follows the MESSIAH …
(this is getting fun…)

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

It hurts (McCain lovers) to watch your candidate lie, make poor decisions, and hide his unqualified running mate. Direct your anger at McCain not Obama.

Posted by: Charles | September 28, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Mavericks make Mistakes!
Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Mark | September 28, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Good night everyone…”yawn”
McCain/Palin ’08

Posted by: Carrie | September 28, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

Carrie: “Obama sounded like a moron” during the debate.
There you have oh elite liberal who follows the MESSIAH …
(this is getting fun…)”
Yet another neocon who thinks this election is best treated like a Friday night football game. You are specifically why the Founding Father have the president elected by the electoral college rather than direct vote – they feared the rise of the idiot class to the ballot box.
Have “fun.”

Posted by: jhw539 | September 28, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

The real issue is in 1996 Obama was endorsed by the New Party and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). Check it out for yourself! He actively solicited support from them. The New Party Marxists worked through the Democratic party to move it to the left in the Chicago area. Obama and his New Party friend Danny K Davis formed a strong friendship. Danny is a Democratic party “super-delegate” pledged to Obama. Danny K also attended many communist party events. The media will never report on all of Obama’s ties to corruption! Research it yourself! Obama is a socialist. America will be ruined if he gets in power. Wake up people, your messiah is a liar!!!!

Posted by: kl | September 28, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Roosterzz, Your wingnuttery has exploded. Lets play “Which of these people are Republican or does John McCain take political contributions from?
David Koresh
James Jones
Charles Masion
Rev Moon
Jimmy Bakker
P.S. learn to use spell check. You make Republicans look stupid.

Posted by: Aesop | September 28, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

Too much to do about nothing. The guy`s dead, he died for his country, not Obama or McCain. Leave it all to political cheapshot artists to capitolize.

Posted by: Trey | September 28, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

I am so dissapointed in the obama “followers” Please wake up !!! Obama is a phony He has never been at his job doing what he is supposed to do!!! What did he say about this bailout crisis??? he said “call me if you need me” Mcain went to try to help us out of the mess that congress got us into!! what about the 128.,0000 that Obama recieved from Fannie May what about all the dealings with Acorn, one of the most corrupt organizations Obama was in the thick of things with them Just google ‘OBAMA ACORN’ Obama should be our next Pres.???? Give me a break!!!!! Besides I hate the way he struts arond>>>>> concieted????? YES!!!

Posted by: sarah | September 28, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

Jake, there’s NOTHING “complicated” about this.
Ms. Jopek is ecstatically supportive of Obama’s decision to invoke her son’s name in the debate, in response to McCain’s repetition of a story he flogs constantly on the stump.
It is wrong, wrong, wrong for the right-wing fruitcakes to go off on this. Personally, I think no candidate should ever invoke dead soldiers, but I blame McCain for bringing this up.

Posted by: Tungsten | September 28, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

Well the “wing”nuts have spoken, and now despite the mother having no problem with Obama using her son’s name they still can be oblivious to the truth. Amazing.
As for those who want to believe that it was Obama exploiting our troops, dream on. McShameless uses that story every chance he gets. Never even considered that maybe Obama might be ready for it…duh its called debate prep.
The funny thing is this whole conversation with the “wing”nuts is pointless….Monday they’ll get up turn on FauxNew/Limbaugh/Hannity and they’ll be told that they were right all along and they’ll be sooooo smug in their ignorance.
You said we’d be welcomed as liberators…you were wrong
You said we knew where the weapons of mass destruction were….you were wrong
You said there wouldn’t be violence between shia and sunni….you were wrong
John you like to believe the war started in 2007
Obama by a KNOCKOUT

Posted by: Eric S | September 28, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Blah,
You sound as entitled as McCain. I will thoroughly enjoy the next 8 years with true leadership in the White House.
Obama 08

Posted by: Proud Lib | September 28, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Obama: “Gosh I have one of those bracelets, too. ” Sargent Whats-his-name I think… Let me check.
Obama is an empty suit.

Posted by: Shash Nahalin | September 28, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

It made me uncomfortable to see Sen Obama try to one-up Sen McCain by using the bracelet. If it was bad form for the Sen to use the bracelet to convey his message, it was worse for Sen Obama to use it as merely an equalizer. Doesn’t it make you uncomfortable to see Sen Obama looking like an angry young black man and interrupting Sen McCain? It made me uncomfortable to see Sen Obama’s obvious disrespect for Sen McCain, a senior ranking Senator, as he kept referring to him as “John”. Is there nothing this guy won’t do to be President???

Posted by: KoKoMo | September 28, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

mccain’s depth and breadth of knowledge at the debate vs. barack’s repeating of his campaign slogans said it all. mccain is prepared to be president, barack is just a fairly bright teenager.

Posted by: el polacko | September 28, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

“As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United Sates of America, where do the go? It’s Alaska.” – Sarah Palin
Insanity First – McCain Palin 2008

Posted by: Shocked | September 29, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

My opinion is this mother already said to Obama’s campaign not to mention the bracelet for public consumption and Obama didn’t honor that request. Since the mother is Obama supporter so she is being gracious by praising him about him mentioning the bracelet on last Friday debate in respons to McCain’s.
The matter still remains, Obama didn’t honor the request.

Posted by: Lisalynna | September 29, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

The debate exposed clear distinctions between the two candidates for president. Sen Obama certainly has done a terrific job of shaping himself into “something similar and familiar” while his ideology of progressive social change is dangerously ill-conceived. Most Americans who are backing Senator Obama will try to overlook these problematic positions and in fact will find themselves overlooking one thing after another to get their candidate elected. IF ELECTED, I predict there will be an instantaneous threat to our national security which will not be correctly identified by this man. He simply doesn’t have the judgement nor the grit to lead our country. We have an illustrious heritage bought and paid for with the blood of my forefathers and this man is not worthy of the vocation to which he aspires.

Posted by: KoKoMo | September 29, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

The fact is, it was an awkward moment for Obama. Having to fumble looking for the name. Frankly, neither side should be exploiting the dead – I would rather have McCain dealing with the subject since he’s lived it and Obama has learnt it from a book. I want to hear more about Acorn, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Posted by: Dee | September 29, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am

While I understand that standing next to the fossil that is John McCain one could be forgiven if they thought Obama looked young(yes I’m talking to you el polacko), but to say that “you were uncomfortable” because Obama referred to McShameless as John is…how can I say this delicately…..EXTREMELY CHILDISH. Two adult men, who work together, see each other often, and are running for President of the United States can’t call each by their first names. Please grow up.(yes I’m talking to you KoKoMo)

Posted by: Eric S | September 29, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

If you have not lost a family member in a war then you really shouldn’t be commenting on this matter. You are playing political games with our war dead & their families. My brother died in Vietnam. My parents never wished for more people to die so his death would not be in vain. Why should more families endure the pain & suffering? War is not the answer.

Posted by: Lois A. Fitzgerald | September 29, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Story is false..

Posted by: doug | September 29, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Gizmo,
“Tacky little things”
There is so much substanitive stuff on why NOT to vote for Obama, but most Americans wouldn’t know because they get their news from the Obama fan club in the MSM. REAL journalists should uncover all the “tacky little things” that we don’t know about Obama.
Alinksy, Ayers, Reszko, Wright, Davis etc etc etc
PLEASE Lord, can’t somebody help the American public see what a disingenuous, manipulative, and dangerous man Barack Hussein Obama really is?
Good night, turn out the lights of America if Obama gets elected…..

Posted by: Conservative in Florida | September 29, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am

The insulting dialog I see here pointed by both sides at both sides is testimony to the reason the United States is finished as a super power and as a respectable nation. The most frightening concept imaginable is that some of the commentators in this “debate” actually vote. The United States will get the president and the representation it deserves, you people are proof that those elected continue to be the worst of the worst.

Posted by: Truth Hurts | September 29, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Oh so nifty Obama. Well, guess what? *I* have a bracelet, too. And guess whose name is on it? My own father! Who, by the way, NEVER came back! Obama’s pitiful use of a KIA or MIA military personnel’s situation for his own selfish inexperienced political benefit is disgusting!
Obama doesn’t have the American history in his own experiences or of his family’s experiences to claim to be on the side of our American soldiers.
John McCain understands the American servicepeople. He has been there. He will keep our country safe.
Russia. Venezuela. Middle East terrorists. Obama will destroy this country.

Posted by: Michelle | September 29, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Let’s see….Obama: interrupted, grimaced, flailed his hands, smirked and stuttered. A babbling idiot who could only repeat campaign lines. McCain:
polite, controlled, polished and knowledgeable.
Solving the economic crisis: McCain
Solving global terrorism: McCain
Obama does not in any way deserve the honor of leading this great country !
I pay enough in taxes…I’ll be taxed to death if Obama wins.
I could go on and on ……
Lord help us that darn Liberal Obama wins!

Posted by: susan | September 29, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am

The Jopek family lives in my town, minus the father. My son and Ryan were very close friends. I have it from the family that they are very satisfied with the way that Obama has handled both the bracelet and Ryan’s memory. There is no reason to think that Obama would even have brought the bracelet up if McCain hadn’t drawn attention to the bracelet he was wearing.

Posted by: fishskicanoe | September 29, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

All you guys were duped from a divorce tussle after Jopek’s death. The divorced dad says one thing, and the mom, who gave the bracelet to Senator Obama, says that she was “ecstatic” about what Obama did.
Shame of John McCain to use the troops to do some political grandstanding. He shut up after Obama’s mention of Jopek’s mother’s grief, which will be felt by many more mothers if we don’t get out of Iraq.
Like the honorable vet noted in McCain’s RNC speech, YOU CAN’T WIN AN OCCUPATION. Our President declared MISSION ACCOMPLISHED (Victory) years ago.

Posted by: ppsA | September 29, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am

This bracelet thing is just a smokescreen for the real problem: Obama cannot give lower taxes for 95% of all taxpayers as he said, and he knows it.
If you didn’t watch him say that at the debate, or you believe it, then you are a total moron.
The truth is he will have to raise taxes on 95% of taxpayers because our tax base is almost gone. I thought it was the reps that always promise unrealistic tax cuts!
Now, besides the tax cut for everyone party, we’re now the more nuclear power and drill for oil everywhere party?! Obama, why did you sell out?
There is no logic left in the party anymore. It’s just all propaganda. Obama is a moron. I won’t vote unless Hillary Clinton replaces Obama.

Posted by: Derick Wilson | September 29, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am

This is the lamest story I think I’ve ever read, and shows just how desperate Republicans have become. Ah well, it’ll all be forgotten once Obama is President.

Posted by: Jake | September 29, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am

This whole episode demonstrates the extent to which conservatives think they own patriotism. They’re so angry! Obama has received six times more campaign contributions from troops deployed overseas than McCain. People- you don’t own the flag anymore- you had your time.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 29, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Gallop poll as of today
Obama 50%
McSame 42%
it is going to be a landslide
Obama/Joe

Posted by: Toot | September 29, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Why would you give someone a bracelet if you didn’t want him to wear it? I don’t understand this at all. And the fact that conservatives are trying to make an issue of this is an insult to the soldier’s memory, IMHO. Imagine making the ultimate sacrifice for your country…and then having other people using that sacrifice to score political points. It’s sick.

Posted by: Styx | September 29, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

The point Obama was making, by saying I
have a bracelet too was;
MCCain said the mother asked that we never forget her son.
Obama said this mother asked that no other mother would have experience what she had to through.
Meaning no more soldiers lives should be
lost in this war.

Posted by: Dee Thom | September 29, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am

LOL! Your updates invalidate your entire story. Nice reporting there, Scoop!
OBAMA ’08!!!!

Posted by: Proud American | September 29, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

The mother gave the bracelet to Obama, not the father. So shouldn’t her feelings and opinions of the mother out-weigh that of the father? Yet, for a long time only the father had been interviewed and reported upon. What outrageous journalism!

Posted by: DrToketee | September 29, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am

So John McCain uses his bracelet first as a gimmick and somehow it is Obama’s fault that this all became politicized?
The only thing here that is shameful is the conservative double standard of “do as I say, not as I do”.
That is what is shameful.

Posted by: JohnT | September 29, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

PALIN = LAUGHINGSTOCK
McCAIN = LAUGHINGSTOCK
REPUBLICAN PARTY = LAUGHINGSTOCK
OBAMA = OUR NEXT PRESIDENT

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 29, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

Obama’s military comments sounded hugely scripted and rehearsed. particularly on Afghanistan; like Custer.inexperienced, implusive, reckless. Other interchange comments involving his “delegation” to others gave me (18 years in executive mgmt) the distinct feeling that he doesn’t know the meaning of “responsibility”. A very poor choice for commander in chief.

Posted by: Bill | September 29, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

After the debate its a given John McCain will be our next President. Get used to “President McCain” and “Vice President Palin”. No serious American could vote for the man child Obama. This instance in the debate reminded me of the SNL skit where what’s her name always tries to do one better to the point of being ridiculous. Obama is clearly not qualified to be president. This man is never made any real decision in his life except to campaign for the next job. God help us all if he ever has to make a life and death decision for real.

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Who honors the troops? Obama entertains them by playing basketball instead of visiting them in the hospital.
Enough said. Barack H. Obama, jr. is a good motivational speaker, but he is not presidential.
His defense cuts will put our military at risk. When Bush took over Clinton had decimated, no, he had destroyed the DOD, especially R&D of new technologies–technologies that are now bearing fruit that Obama will cut.
Obama and Rev. Wright are wrong. God Bless America!

Posted by: Apollo | September 29, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

isn’t mccain pathetic for using a dead soldier to try to make political points for himself. he does not even know that soldiers preference. then when obama shows that not all the mothers feel the same, mccain trys to say that obama is politicing the situation. this is classic republican whining. they do something despicable and when it blows up in their face they cry foul. pathetic, pathetic, pathetic. mccain should check with palin next time before he says anything.

Posted by: art | September 29, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am

The difference between Obama and McCain on the economy… Obama wants to buy your vote while McCain wants to earn your vote.

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

Then it is SHAMEFUL of McCain to use it as a gimmick, since he brought it up first, no? Obama was just retorting that not all soldiers and their families felt that they ought to continue fighting for the sake of making those who have given their lives’ sacrifice “worth it”.
I also take umbrage to McCain’s insinuation that a soldier’s sacrifice is more “worth it” only if they win the war. That is absolutely insulting and makes a mockery of the fallen men and women. As Obama said, NO SOLDIER who dies fighting for his country ever dies in vain. I would think it’s not worth it if you just send more sons and daughters, husbands and wives to die just for the sake of making it “worth it”, instead of perhaps reflecting on the fallen soldier’s story and then really pausing to consider whether this war should be continued.
McCain said how he knew it was like to come home defeated, and how he does not want that to happen for Iraq. Oh, so if the troops come home tomorrow nursing injuries and missing limbs, he will be ashamed of them? Does he think that this is like Vietnam, and that we should have stayed?
Fifty-eight thousand, one hundred and fifty-nine soldiers died in the forests of Vietnam, with over 2000 more missing till this day. It may be quite detached to just read the statistics, but just think. Every one of those soldiers had a life, a family, dreams and hobbies. Think of the people they left behind and how they feel.
McCain, had we decided to continue the Vietnam War, you might not have come home. Don’t you realise that?

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

McCain fought for his country, OB hasn’t. BTW, I give OB and A plus on his oral exam the other night. His campaign did a good job prepping him.

Posted by: carol | September 29, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

carol,
Yes, he has fought for his country. But I thought he would know better that sometimes continuing a war is not worth it, being stuck in the nightmare for five years under the Viet Cong.
The war was a nightmare for both the soldiers and the Vietnamese-the civilians, especially. They call it “The American War”, and up till this day, many people still live mentally and physically scarred by it. Obama’s stand on the Iraq war says more then McCain’s being able to say off the cuff the bracelet thing.
Don’t you all think it’s interesting that the Bush admin also does not keep a proper list of the dead and injured Iraqi soldiers who had fought FOR US, on OUR SIDE?

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am

We have an Obama supporter working this site deleting any post that reports the truth!!! Please stop trying to get Obama elected and stop deleting my posts just because they are the truth!!!
I’m being totally serious here, and everyone knows what I’m about to say is a fact. Obama has accomplished nothing in his career except admit he was a heavy cocaine user. I’m sure this post will get deleted because it’s the truth; it’s in his book. His only other noteworthy accomplishment is that he was an admitted FAILED community organizer! Yep he’s definitely qualified to be president. I hope all you partisan liberals are happy. At least Hillary had a clue.

Posted by: Tony | September 29, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am

granted wright is a little over the top, but mcnasty hangs with nazi lovin’ jew haters. what is wrong with mccain. he won’t even say that his nazi oiving friends are losers.

Posted by: art | September 29, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

Minnesotaman,
I won’t deny that it was a Democratic President who was responsible for the Vietnam War. Notice how I don’t say “you right wing-nuts responsible for Iraq” or whatnot. I think the war wrong, no matter what party the president who started was from.
Winning in Iraq? It is naive to think so. Suppressing the violence is one thing- actually having a long-term, stable, democratic country is another. The surge in tandem with our bribing the insurgency not to attack us is the only reason why the violence has gone down. Simply put, once the money stops, so does the peace. We can’t keep paying the insurgents forever, can we?
A democracy is not a country with just free and fair elections. You have to have a culture and a people with a mindset to support it, otherwise it will be a weak democracy. Look at Iraq-they have been under a dictatorship for decades, and before that, colonial rule, and previously, a monarchy. Their mindsets cannot change over night, and such a sudden removal of the regime was especially disorientating. And then the sectarian violence flared up because all these years there had never been a culture of dialogue and open discussion. Look at the US. Americans themselves stood up to the colonial masters. I am not saying we should have left Saddam there, just that it was supremely naive of Bush to think that he could just transplant a stable democracy in Iraq by getting rid of Saddam.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

Everyone is arguing over this but I am concerned about what Obama will do if he gets into office. He says he is going to lower taxes and most of the people he is going to lower taxes on don’t pay taxes now. A forked tongue? I was fooled once by Clinton when he ran on lowering taxes for me and as soon as he got into office, he raised taxes on my social security disability. Democrats fool me once but you can’t fool me again. Where is he going to get all the money to do all the things he is saying he is going to do? He wouldn’t answer in the debate what he was going to do to cut spending. Just repeated what he can’t cut, nothing. McCain said he would put a freeze on spending. Obama wanted gas prices to go up. Gas prices is a big part of people not being able to make their house payment. Just think about all your family and friends that are going to be hurt with higher taxes. It scares me if Obama gets in. I live in Arizona with low electric bills (Nuclear power) and McCain didn’t bring a lot of pork back to Arizona as he don’t believe in it.

Posted by: Jean | September 29, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am

McCain used the bracelet first? Show me where in this article that McCAin used the bracelet item first. Based on this article Obama was mentioning the bracelet he got way back in Feb. Doesn’t mention when McCain used it on the stump. So for any of you morons who think this is a “he hit me first” argument. GROW UP.

Posted by: fred | September 29, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

Ahhh… I love the smell of conservative desparation! This story is really bringing it out… There will be dancing in the streets of every major city in America on Election Day as competent leadership arrives in the form of Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 29, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

Jean,
I think a question you may need to ask is WHERE is MCCAIN going to get the money from, if he wants to give everyone health credits and continue the $10 billion per month Iraq war. Obama’s plan shows he is certainly getting money from someone to pay the bill-the upper income and corporations.
Do you know that right now, China is paying part of the Iraq bill- running into the trillions, and they’re also charging interest on it, because Bush mistakenly thought he could wage a “cheap” war despite history is saying otherwise-it’s not come yet, but the bill is adding up, and it’s the future generations who will have to pay for this trillion-dollar mess.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

Obama came across weak and stuttering and a childish with “me, too.” Obama has accomplished nothing. He knows nothing and understand nothing. He is spoon-fed everything on tele-prompters and when there is no prompter he stutters and says um, ah, uh, umm, ahh, uhhh.

Posted by: Lizbeth | September 29, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am

Gray Matter as much as you make some great points you fail to understand we are winning in Iraq. Not only is violence down, but political progress is being made. One of the biggest miscalculations of the war was a failure to understand how our previous actions impacted Iraqis. After the first gulf war there was hope we would take out Saddam and people in Iraq died because we did not. There was no trust of the population that we were there to get the job done. If one thinks we will be gone when it gets tough why stick your neck out and risk your life for something better? As I said, we are winning and there is political progress being made. It has not been easy but progress is being made and we need to be there to ensure all the progress that has been made is not undone by a lack of commitment on our part. The world is better off with Iraq a democracy and will remain better off with us standing along side Iraqis helping them to a better future. Freedom does not come without sacrifice which many American’s comfortable with their cable tv, their 24 hr supermarkets, and the freedom to wish death upon their President without reprisal seem to have forgotten.

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am

Why does Joe Biden not think before he opens his mouth? Where is Hillary? Obama looks weak without HIllary.

Posted by: Lizbeth | September 29, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am

Obama is a clown, lol
Obama is not patriot enought he is just a political charlatan.
He mentioned a soldier bracelet even against the mother wishes for political gain.
This clown is just too funny.

Posted by: Peter | September 29, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

The question comes up where is McCain going to get the money? Well that is an easy one. First, with lower taxes and making it less costly for business to operate business invests more, creating jobs, which create more wealth to be taxed. The Bush tax cuts worked and more revenue flowed in to the treasury. This is an undisputed fact! The problem is there was more spending then the increased revenues. Bush never used his veto pen as he should have. This is what McCain understands. We need to cut spending, especially domestically. The Federal government was never meant to be the baby sitter of its citizens. Democrats do not understand the constitution or the true roll of government. Protection of its citizens is the main mission of the federal government which includes our military and our roll in the Middle East right now. You make the U.S. more business friendly, increase jobs and cut spending and there you have where McCain will get the money. It is really funny how the economy goes in the tank after Democrats take over congress.. is it not?

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am

Minnesotaman,
The points you do make are indeed valid-yes, it’s true there’s been political progress, but none of us can really be sure how well or long it hold. Of course it would be great to give the Iraqis a shot at a better life, but the truth is while Saddam’s long shadow no longer falls on them, their living conditions have deteriorated- they’ve had more cholera cases then the entire continent of Asia and the Americas in a year. They have even less hours of electricity a day, it’s still pretty dangerous out in the streets. Maybe if we can start refocusing on reconstruction and stop the anarchy once and for all, things will improve.
Actually, if we’d backed down from starting the war or not ending it with victory, other countries might not neccessarily see us as being “weak”. Fact is, Iraq has taken a heavy toll on our military. Aside from soldiers being wounded or injured, Bush has drawn on the Reserves and the National draft and conscripted them to go to Iraq. These two units were supposed to be used only in emergencies. One reason why the hurricane Katrina response was so botched up was also because part of the National Guard that could have provided and manpower and relief was in Iraq.
I’m afraid McCain came off as possibly starting a war with Iran. Our military is no longer at 100%, and I think we need to rebuild our strength-which is what Obama says he intends to do-before we can even think of jumping into Iran, or if we still wish to possess our influence over the world.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am

Obama is a plastic man, an empty suit. He is a 100% liberal media invention. His non-existent positives are invented then highlighted by the media, the endless list negatives, hidden by the same. And while at the same time, the media continues its 24/7 attackes on McCain and Palin. If I were her, not only would I not talk to the elitist media, I’d tell them to shove it, and real Americans would love it.

Posted by: pat | September 29, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am

Gray Matter America is about what we can do not what we can not do. This is the true American spirit and what has made us a great nation. The simple fact with Iraq progress is being made and those who understand the American spirit as how to we continue this progress and figure out a way to make it work instead of saying it can’t be done. This is why I will vote for McCain. McCain understood we were not succeeding in Iraq and instead of saying we must leave, he knew we had to figure out a way to succeed. We are doing that. Nothing worthwhile is easy. You speak of other countries not thinking we are week if we leave Iraq? You don’t seem to understand Osama Bin Laden does not lead a country. This battle against Islamo Fascism is greater then any one country. Yes, certain countries may be supporting these terrorists but these terrorists don’t hold allegiance to any one country. I don’t agree with you either on the reason the Katrina response was botched. The main reason it was botched was due to lack of leadership at the state and local level. The governor and the mayor failed to be proactive and use the tools they had, such as the busses that were left to drown. I’m not sure where you get the McCain starting a war with Iran? What we know is that Obama’s approach is ignorant. To say diplomacy has not been tried with Iran is an outright lie. You do the same thing over and over again without positive results is the definition of stupidity. All negotiation with Iran produces is more time for them to develop a nuke. Iran’s president is quite clear what he wishes to do to Israel so to talk about the desire to talk to a mad man shows ignorance on ones part.

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am

art,
U talk about Obama cutting defense spending. During Mccain’s interview on 60 min he said
“PELLEY: What are you going to cut?
McCAIN: I think we’ll — frankly, you can eliminate so many agencies of government that are outmoded. Obviously, I would scrub defense spending. Obviously, we would look at every institution of government. I would stop these protectionist tariffs. I would stop subsidizing sugar.”
Mccain is going to cut our defense. people talk about how we need to show that we are not a weak country in order to protect ourselves.How is cutting our defense spending going to help at all? It seems almost like a step backwards. Yeah it will cut some of our spending but defense is vital to our country’s future. The world is not getting any safer. As new technologies are formed with more capabilities and bigger destruction we can not afford to fall behind on being able to defend against it. Electing Mccain would be catastrophic to our future. Can you imagine Bush for another 4 years? Well thats what it would be like if Mccain gets chosen to lead us out of the mess we are in.

Posted by: David | September 29, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am

I guess the Communism has already started with Obama. In Wisconsin he has the police to go after anyone putting out negative ADS about him. Sounds like Freedom Of Speech will be gone if he’s elected. I wrote a blog entry on this site earlier and stated nothing but some facts about Obama and they did not post it. I guess this site has been warned that it will be taken down if there are any negative comments about Obama and his Ugly hateful wife. He also wants everyone to learn Spanish because in 2 Speeches that i saw he was upset that people in this great Country are angry that the Immigrants and Illegal Aliens can’t speak English. but he wants us to quit worrying about that and to learn how to Speak Spanish. Kiss Off Traitor!! He also wants to make all of the Illegal Aliens legal Citizens so there won’t be anymore Republican party. About 98 % percent of Mexicans that do Vote will vote for a Democrat and if they get 12 Million more democrats there won’t be a Republican partya and that’s what He and the Democrats want. Be ready to get Tattoed on your Forehead or on your hand with OBAMA on it. This man thinks he God or let’s just say Muhammed!! I will move to Switzerland or some other Country if this Communinst radical racist gets in the White House. He has a good friend in the Black Panthers group who Speaks Russian just like Obama’s Father did. And the Black Panthers are a Terrorist group that hates Whites and the Government and Jews. A saudi prince from the Royal family paid for Obama’s Harvard Education so I wonder what he owes the royal Family back?? Maybe paying 200 dollars for a barrel of Oil. And cutting off support for Israel? Or maybe forcing everyone to covert to Islam/Muslim?? I hope you people wake up before it’s too late. And if your a Gun owner be prepared to have them taken away because he is against Guns period. That’s one of the Ads that being played in Wisconsin and he has the KGP Police going after them to take it off the air and arrest these people for Freedom of Speech and they are telling facts!! Communism is not to far away if you elect this hate monger Traitor!! Wake Up People!! VOTE MCCAIN /PALIN before it’s too late. If you don’t hear from me anymore then that means the Obama Police squad got me. But I won’t go down without a good fight for my Free Speech!! PETE

Posted by: PETE | September 29, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am

David, you missed the whole point of McCains talk about reducing defense spending. McCain was talking about being more efficient and stop spending on systems that do not work. There is a difference between cutting the overall military (as Democrats are known to do) and making sure you get the biggest bang for the buck. Us tax payers deserve better then to spend money on something that is bid at a million dollars and then costs twice as much or ends up not working at all. McCain is the candidate who will be the wise steward of our money and not the candidate who will take from peter to pay paul and jane and ted and mike and so on.

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am

Minnesotaman,
McCain was like “bomb bomb bomb Iran” (Not at the debate, somewhere else, can’t remember)
It’s not clear specifically whether he will bomb Iran or what, but what didn’t sit right with me was the way he appeared to be sabre-rattling all the time, that the solution for everything was military force. And that scared me, since we are certainly not ready for another war since our army has been weakened because of Iraq.
On the Katrina thing, I agree, main reason was because Bush botched it up, but sending the National Guard to Iraq is certainly paying a price at home- when there are disasters at home, you have less people to respond, and that’s bad.
Back to Iran, Obama did mention that Ahmadinejad may not be the right person to talk to- he’s not the person who exerts the most influence on Iran. And it’s true. Ever since the Iranian Revolution in the 70s, the Ayatollah Khomeini, a religious cleric, had held great influence over Iran as a theocracy. Now it’s his descendents. I think Obama was right in saying that we might have to go at this from another direction-such as trying to get to the religious cleric, in tandem with trying to negotiate with Ahmadinejad.
There’s a lot of anger against the US after the CIA during Carter’s administration overthrew what could have been a democratically elected prime minister and restored the dictator, the Reza Shah (who had a bit of a resemblance to Saddam in what he did to his political opponents) so they could get their hands on Iran’s oil. I think that anger still lives on, and that they see the US as trying to push them around.
I think talking with the enemy is sometimes a better way to go about things. You at least now have some leverage and channel to them. If you don’t talk to them, they’ll continue spouting their vitriol about you until you nuke them or something-and that’s something I think is unjustified to do to the millions of civilians who can’t control their president. Not to mention the world reaction of our allies.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am

Pete, right on the money. It’ll be like that TV miniseries from the 80′s “V”. The first steps to disable us is to take away free speech and the means to protect ourselves. Propaganda and indoctrination. Those against will be sent to re-education centers. It can happen very easily but we will have no one to blame but ourselves for blindly following this “alien”. He can’t prove where he’s from or where’s he’s lived. Where are his school records? From any school? Dreiser will have to be followed up by someone who survives this and write “American Tragedy II”.

Posted by: Emm | September 29, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am

It was clearly a political stunt on Obama’s part—-had he been wearing the bracelet all these months, he certainly would have known the soldiers name..but since he didn’t it is obvious, Obama probably had heads up about McCain mentioning the bracelet he had and Obama only wore his bracelet to counter.

Posted by: chattyway | September 29, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

It was clearly a political stunt on Obama’s part—-had he been wearing the bracelet all these months, he certainly would have known the soldiers name..but since he didn’t it is obvious, Obama probably had heads up about McCain mentioning the bracelet he had and Obama only wore his bracelet to counter.

Posted by: chattyway | September 29, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am

Im sorry Gray Matter you have bought into the liberal lie of Katrina. The only think Bush botched with Katrina is not looking like he was on top of things. After all, we know he was supposed to fly to New Orleans and take charge of everything right away.. NOT! The simple fact is outside of the perception issue Bush botched, FEMA is not first responders. It was the State and city governments that botched Katrina.
The problem Obamaites have with the whole talking to the enemy thing is they really do not understand diplomacy or what form of diplomacy is right. McCain is all for talking to the enemy… just not the President. He has no problem with lower level diplomats talking to the enemy but giving the enemy the credibility that a President would give by talking to them on the world stage is the wrong thing to do. You give credence to their craziness. McCain had it right in saying you don’t sit down with someone who says they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. After all how can you really have a serious talk with that person. Obamaites are truly ignorant aligned behind an ignorant candidate.

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am

Hey Maurizio… In the debate, which you obviously did not watch, but are commenting on, McCain was the one who started with the bracelet boasting.

Posted by: Shemp333 | September 29, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am

Like the moral and pure Edwards and Clinton?

Posted by: Emm | September 29, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am

Emm,
I wonder if you’ll still be saying anything about Obama wanting to take your rights away when McCain decides to draft all healthy men and women to fight in his Iran or North Korean adventure, perhaps, next. What it seems for sure, is that we’ll certainly not be having less enemies anytime soon-the world thinks America is being a bully again and trying to sabre rattle everyone into falling in line.
And really, to some of the McCain supporters please don’t throw around words like communism for the sole purpose of whipping up Soviet-esque hysteria. You know what’s having your rights taken away, your freedom of speech taken away, being indoctrinated or whatnot? That’s FACISM. YES, like Nazi Germany.
Communism has tenets with socialism. A socialist country is a country where there’s no privatisation, all the companies, land whatever, all belong to the state, and the government manages all the economic and business in the country. The main focus of socialism is not “dictatorship”, it’s just how it ends up being most of the time in the real world. But whatever it is, Obama certainly can’t, and is not going to make America a socialist country anytime soon.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am

To the person that wrote the below statement. What you don’t understand McCain would have given his life for what he believed was best for his country, He isn’t saying we shouldn’t lose because it wouldn’t look good to the returning countrymen but he thinks we need to win so we don’t let the terrorist think we are week!
McCain, had we decided to continue the Vietnam War, you might not have come home. Don’t you realise that?

Posted by: Timothy | September 29, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am

The people who are responsible for the mess occurring today are the same people who voted in a Democratic Congress. It is amazing how the economy is such shambles AFTER democrats are elected. For that matter, this crisis goes back to the liberal agenda of Freddy and Fanny making easier for everyone to own a home. Home ownership is not a right and if you can not afford it you should not buy it. Put the country back on the right tract and vote Republicans back into Congress and keep them in the White House. It truly is amazing how liberals do not care about facts only what they have been spoon fed by the left wing media. I read through these posts and time and time again liberals are ignoring reality and facts to parrot what they have been spoon fed. Come on libs… think… use your brains!

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am

Who said we would invade Iran or N. Korea? The Dems.
Who said he would invade Pakistan? Obama.
And America will become a socialist welfare state under Obama. Broadening govt., universal health care for anyone, redistribution of wealth to the poor, giving rebate checks with no purchase stipulations. Doubtful that Joe Schmoe will use a $1000 rebate check to actually pay for basic necessities like food and utilities. It’s more likely (and even shown in potential recipient interviews) that they’ll see it as free money and will buy the newest, shiniest set of rims, wide screen tvs, or on anything than what it’s meant for. So expansion of govt. to take care of us because we can’t take care of ourselves. And the sad thing is, Obama has been trained and brought up to believe those socialist ideals, so he doesn’t see it as evil, just as “change”. My God, why won’t the Dems open their eyes?

Posted by: Emm | September 29, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am

This is so ridiculous because it was the warmonger John McCain who played politics with the bracelet using it as justification for more war.
Obama simply pointed out that McCain’s warped views are not shared by all soldiers, families & Obama was reminding us of the cost of war. It’s not something to be used to glorify more carnege in the way that McCain tried to use it.
Seriously McCain made several attempts to grab votes by playing the tear jerk card. It failed miserably.
McCain can take his sham flag pen candidacy straight to the political wilderness where it belongs.

Posted by: dee | September 29, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am

Timothy,
It is understandable that that’s how it seems at a glance. But the truth is, the more we stay in Iraq, when the situation was more violent, where the insurgency was in its prime, the terrorists were somewhere else laughing. They’d succeeded in distracting us, and we’d helped them by breeding a pool of resentful Iraqis and Middle-Easterns to join their extremist cause. Now, that the violence has gone down-it’s only because of the surge and the fact that we’re paying the insurgents to stop shooting us. We could have done this better by not jumping into Iraq the way we did, and we should not make this mistake again.
The terrorists know full well despite the strong show of force in Iraq that US Army is no longer at one hundred percent anymore. They know our recruitment standards have had to be dropped in order to meet the demand. They know the military is overburdened, our equipment and infrastructure is worn out and needs to be replaced. Our economy is in pieces, and they see that. They know that we are weaker.
And even if that were not the case, do you think people mad enough to think that blowing innocent civilians and even their own fellow Muslims into pieces is a good cause would be deterred by our military might?
And the world does not view America as a leader now. They view America as a bully. What they want is for America to LEAD, not SHOVE. They would rather the US tried to impose its will on countries like Sudan where there’s been a genocide going on. If you can win half your enemies over, you won’t need to have to resort to ballistic missiles all the time to make things fall in line-and you’ll have less bloodshed and a lot more friends too.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am

Timothy Wrote, “McCain, had we decided to continue the Vietnam War, you might not have come home. Don’t you realise that? ”
Perhaps that is true but perhaps we would have been in a stronger position now with our enemies not seeing us as a paper tiger. I am sure McCain’s response to what Timothy wrote would be he already sacrificed so much as “Country First” so winning the Vietnam war would have been better off for our country and he would have been willing to sacrifice for that.
Again, Iraq is no Vietnam and to try to draw comparisons in intellectually dishonest. We are wining, militarily and politically, and are headed in the right direction no matter how the left tries to damage this country a defeat they desire so badly (if for nothing else prove through their hatred for Bush he was wrong).

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am

We can no more ‘win’ the occupation of Iraq than we could ‘win’ the occupation of Vietnam. We had no business being in Vietnam and we had no business being in Iraq. The was wasn’t just a strategic mistake, it was a moral catastrophe.

Posted by: Mike | September 29, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am

Gray Matter wrote that the world sees America as a bully? This is not true. This is another liberal lie. Yes, leftists see America as a bully but I have traveled the world and most people I speak to understand why we went into Iraq. Look at France to start, electing a more conservative government which is more friendly to America. Don’t believe the liberal lies, America is still the shining beacon of light so many in the world desire to come to. After all, why would we need to be worrying about boarder security if we were not the worlds leader in freedom, opportunity and the greatest nation on this green earth? I know liberals feel otherwise but the numbers who want to come here tell a different story. Even the those in the U.N. who like to complain about the U.S. never stop asking us for more when they need it.

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am

> Wow! 0bama insisted on using a fallen soldier as a political gimmick even after the family asked him to stop?
It might be shameful if it were true. In fact, Tracy Jopek, the mother of the fallen soldier who gave Obama the bracelet is quoted by the Associated Press to be “ecstatic” when Senator Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.
The Drudge Report quotes her ex-husband. He doesn’t speak for her, and he doesn’t speak for “the family”.

Posted by: Bob Foster | September 29, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am

Minnesotaman,
The post beneath yours makes a statement itself. I have friends from foreign countries, and many have said sometimes they think the world may be better off without America. They don’t hate Americans (sadly, some of the terrorists in the middle-east have come to this), but they hate the way the government has behaved the past eight years. Look, don’t say liberal this, liberal that. My friends are from a wide variety of backgrounds, and it’s clear that there’s some Anti-Bush’s America sentiment simmering in the world. I am sure there are people who agree with you around the world, but we cannot ignore the fall of America’s standing over the past eight years. Compared to eight years ago, more people who have agreed with you back then.
They said they see America as a hypocrite, enshrining human rights and democracy, but then stepping on other’s by having the PATRIOT act and Guantanamo Bay, the torture of Iraqis at the Abu Ghraib Prison. That’s what they see, and it’s sad. Before that, people did look up to America.
Even in the 1960s, Iranians looked up to the American way- I’d read about it in a book written by an Iranian woman- that’s the reason they were so disappointed when they saw their admired country turning around and reinstating the dictator in their own.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am

The UN need’s the US’s support because it has a power influence on the world, the only remaining superpower, a high GDP and so on.
But if we continue running the economy into the ditch and starting ill-conceived wars, that could change. Look at the rise of China and Russia. They’ll be glad to take our place.
This is not like the days of the old where empires conquered and used military force to solidify their power. Today, you’ve got to win on moral authority too. And for every person who thinks America still has moral authority, there are more now who don’t think so because of the Iraq fiasco.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am

Why do you libs get defensive when anyone criticizes Obama? He’s the Pied Piper and you all are following him mindlessly. You would do well to remember what happened to all those rats! As for the bracelet incident, McCain didn’t have to read the soldiers name off the bracelet that he wore. He knew it by heart and it was obvious that he understood the pain that mother was going through and wanted to honor her son. Obama on the other hand could care less about that soldier, evidenced by the fact that he didn’t even remember his name. What a shallow man, to use a dead soldier’s bracelet as a prop for his campaign rhetoric and not even know his name. If I were Tracy Jopek, I would have been insulted and demanded the bracelet back. Again, the real Obama shows through the false façade he uses for the public.

Posted by: Mardi | September 29, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am

Somebody fill Bob in on the entire story, the part where she tells the AP that she in fact did ask O to not wear it, not just the part where she said it was fine that he mentioned the son last night. She’s still for O, so the token “ecstatic” response will probably get her an invite to a Dem party.

Posted by: Emm | September 29, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am

What the heck? This discussion is unbelievable! Can we devote some time to an actual issue?

Posted by: Bill Pedigo | September 29, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am

Maybe it would, since Obama seems concerned about the Sudanese genocide. He’s written reports about it with his colleagues urging action and also wrote the foreword for a book on Darfur. I don’t see McCain concerned about Sudan.
Maybe it’s because China’s already got their hands on the oil there so it doesn’t make sense to uneccessarily tangle with the Janjaweed who are raping and massacring Darfuri civlians and children.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

Mardi,
Can you explain about the judgment of Maccain who picked Palin for VP?
The VP pick is one of most important decision for Presiedntial candidate. especially for a 72 year old man with a history of cancer.
And he choose such an egghead, corruptive, power abusive woman for VP.
This shows how maccain is hypocritic when he say, Country first.
I will say, Maccain First, Country Last.

Posted by: zen | September 29, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am

Take a good look at the reason for the financial bailout of $700 billion. Liberal socialism insisting on lowering lending standards finally broke the dam. And look at them all sweating begging for Republican backing to reward these institutions with more money, this way the lower class can keep buying $1800 plasma TV’s. The democrats show why Communism failed.

Posted by: John Kerry | September 29, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am

“”Mardi says
Can you explain about the judgment of Maccain who picked Palin for VP?”"
Yah I guess John Kerry asking McCain to be his VP then getting JOHN EDWARDS on the rebound…by the way..libs..how is John doing..you know…with his problem?

Posted by: Tony Rezco | September 29, 2008, 4:52 am 4:52 am

McCain brought up the bracelet during the Republican Convention. Obama’s advisors must have had this written in on his telepromter to be sure that he could show his too!!
I am still waiting for the “middle class tax break” Clinton PROMISED during his campaign just as Obama is promising. Maybe we will get it this time since my husband and I (both work) don’t come near that $250,000 level. Hope the rich folks in Hollywood, the CEO’s, etc. are aware that they are “the rich” Obama and the democratic party are referring to also, not just those rich Republicans.
And again, Congress (both parties) approved the war in Iraq because of the fear of WMD. On 2-8-98 at a Town Hall Meeting in Columbus, Ohio, Sandy Berger and Madeleine Albright mentioned their concerns and beliefs there were WMD as did Bill Clinton on 2-17-98 at the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Nancy Pelosi on 11-17-02 on Meet the Press, Joe Biden on 8-4-02 on Meet the Press, 9-15-02 on Meet the Press Hillary also mentioned her views, as did John Edward on 1-7-2003 at Buchanan & Press, etc., etc., We are winning in Iraq and McCain will bring us home in victory.

Posted by: Felicia | September 29, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am

After John McCain gave a heart felt story of a women that gave a bracelet to him Obama says. Oh yeah I got a bracelet to.
To me this was kind of weird and kind of sick. I felt queazy after Obama said it. It is strange at many levels. One level is it says America and the American democratic principles are not worth fighting for. In Obama’s view of the world the soldier of the mother that gave John McCain the bracelet is not a hero. Obama says to the mother of bracelet that her son died in vain.
Saddam Hussein was a dictator who invaded another country (not a man of peace). The Iraq people now have some of the rights that we have and are better for it. America is safer without an evil dictator in the center of the worlds largest energy supply.
Yet Obama says to the mother of the bracelet her son died in vain.

Posted by: David McCanna | September 29, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am

The Iraq war was a necessity. Yes it could have been managed better, but it needed to be to be fought. And Bush isn’t the Bad guy. He is only a man and he did what he thought was best for the country. Just like Clinton did when he didn’t kill Osama bin Laden when he had the chance. I guess all of you have always made sound choices and are living the good life because you are just so smart! Yeah right! You all don’t seem to understand that there were those who hated America long before Bush became president. Look at the incidents during the Clinton years. There will always be an adversary because there will always be those who hate our lifestyle, our freedoms and our prosperity. Just ask the French! Why? Because we live free!
Concerning the Iraq war, IF Sadam was still alive and kicking in Iraq, we wouldn’t be just facing a nuclear Iran, but a nuclear Iraq as well. Sadam would never allow Iran to have nuclear capabilities without having them himself. Then we would have 2 radical governments to deal with. No you say we should have just let them be even if they were nuclear, right? WRONG! What do you think they are going to do with those nuclear weapons? Sit on them? NO, they are going to sell some of them to any terrorist group who can come up with the money. You all complain about the US, about Bush, about your life, but none of that will matter if someone drops a dirty bomb in NYC or perhaps in a little one-horse town in Wyoming with a population of 5,000 that gets wiped out. Then you will be cursing Bush for not making a parking lot out of those countries where the terrorists come from! So spare me your whining about Iraq. Anyone who isn’t concerned about a nuclear Iran or even North Korea or Venezuela is an idiot! Thank God we aren’t worrying about a nuclear Iraq as well!

Posted by: Mardi | September 29, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am

I was wrong to believe George Bush is the only idiot in USA.Apparently is too many more like him. Now understand why your economy and your country are going downhill.

Posted by: Enough | September 29, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am

Don’t understand the commotion over the to bracelet or not to bracelet issue. Thinking of all the past war dead from the Civil War until today, no one mourns any of them as time passes and those that were family die themselves. Don’t get this obsession with death and memorials, bracelets and the like, just don’t. Sure, if it was a loved one I can understand the obsession with the memory and the circumstances of the death but why does it have to be an obsession forced on everyone else. Wearing a bracelet does not undo anything, does not make any family pain go away. Time heals all personal pain. Because a person is grieving does not mean I have to as well. Sure, I am respectful and say the standard, sorry for your loss. But, it is their pain and not mine. We all have our own grief, pain, regarding death of someone close. A bracelet worn or not does not make it all perfectly fine. Never has, never will. Death is death, grief is grief and both are personal to an individual or family of an individual. So let us all move on with business at hand because life is for the living, so let us focus on living and the living.

Posted by: Lawrence | September 29, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am

I am assuming you have seen the AP article refuting your comments and saying that the mother was pleased with Obama and that there are differing views on the war.

Posted by: Peter | September 29, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am

Figures Obama would do something this sleazy. After all, he stole the nomination from Hillary when he conspired to keep Edwards in the race, knowing full well he was a philanderer with a secret family. This stole votes, money and media from Hillary. I’m a hard-core Democrat who will be voting for McCain this time because Obama should not be rewarded with a vote for pulling the type of shenanigans the Supreme Court pulled when they gave Bush the crown over Gore. Hillary will come back in 2012 and I’d prefer she run against McCain. It’s only four years. Still better than five minutes of Obama.

Posted by: Military mom | September 29, 2008, 6:34 am 6:34 am

Someone explain to me a mother gives you such a gift as this bracelet and you are as moved by the act as Obama says he was then how could you ever forget the name that was on it?

Posted by: Jack | September 29, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am

It is sad we are even having to have a discussion about dead soldiers bracelets.

Posted by: AD | September 29, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

Leave it to an expedient shameless charlatan to go against the wishes of a hero, and that hero’s family. Obama despises this country and our military. Clearly, he wore the bracelet to falsely portray he cares, when in fact, he used it as a political tool. He thinks we’re stupid. Ironically, the people who support this guy are the idiots. God help us if this guy is elected.

Posted by: Barb | September 29, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

Obama was just trying to make a point that not everyone thought the same way.
End of story. He did not go around shamelessly flogging the story of the dead soldier saying “Ohhh, you know Ryan who have never wanted this! Shameless McCain is the one who caused this young man’s death!!!!”
McCain does not own patriotism. And oh, McCain, where was your flag pin? I saw Obama wearing one. Why’d you think it a big fuss that time Obama didn’t wear the pin? What about you?

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

MILWAUKEE (AP) — The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was “ecstatic” during Friday’s debate when Senator Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.
Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.
She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes.
She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she says Obama’s mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Senator John McCain said a soldier’s mother gave him a bracelet.
Jopek says Obama’s comment rightfully suggested there’s more than one viewpoint on the war.

Posted by: Crazychester | September 29, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am

It was McCain who forgot the name on his bracelet in past appearances. Whether it is because McCain has early memory loss or whether it is because he doesn’t care is up in the air.
Obama never did. What you see him doing is first mentioning the name “Sargent..” and then catching the fact that he is referring to the soldier’s mother, restarts his sentence “the mother of Sargent…”
It is McCain who has been the most obstructionist Senator when it comes to funds for injured soldiers and veteran’s affairs. That is why the veterans groups give McCain such a low rating

Posted by: GWB | September 29, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am

If he couldn’t remember the name without looking at the bracelet, it was an obvious prop.
It brings back memories of Carters empty suit case.

Posted by: Sully | September 29, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am

Obama the faker. No class. No experience. What fools to vote for this inept Chicago gangster. He may be flashy and well dressed but He Knows Nothing. A rock star propped up by Hollywood Elite, Lawyers, Union Bosses, and Corporate CEOs. Dont be fooled by this pack-a-day smoker who hides his weaknesses well.

Posted by: Dean | September 29, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am

I think, clearly, the mother of the fallen soldier simply just didn’t want her son to be overused as an anti-war stump speech. She did not want him to stand out by Obama mentioning him, but wanted him to be remembered as one of the many soldiers who died for their country.
Obama didn’t keep on flaunting his bracelet or anything before the debate. I think it was a perfect response to McCain. Simple. Not everyone believes staying longer is worth it, that’s all.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am

Yes, McCain forgot the name on his bracelet twice in a Virgina stump speeches last month. Looks like he was practicing to get it right this time!

Posted by: 44 | September 29, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

McCain has been waving the bracelet at every single campaign stop. Obama has simply been wearing his.
This shows integrity on Obama’s part and shameless exploitation by McCain.
But of course “Keating Five McCain” is a gambling addicted, skirt chasing nut, who has inflated his war record and lived off if it, so what is new. He has never had a sense of honor.

Posted by: No stolen election this time | September 29, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am

Gee,
Why does everyone think he forgot the name? He was just backing up because he said the soldier’s title first, then corrected himself to say “the mother of”, referring to the mother who gave him the bracelet.
McCain likes to play the whole patriotism thing. Like the whole fuss over the flag pin, says on Nov 4th, it’s either “Country First” or “Obama first”. McCain, you needn’t keep questioning Obama’s patriotism. The voters will judge him (as well as you) by themselves on that aspect.
Look who kept on voting against the veteran’s Bill. Certainly not Obama.
Your choice in your running mate told me everything I needed to know. It was painful watching Palin on Couric, Palin didn’t seem to know herself what she was talking about at all. Some people said Obama crammed from his debate, well no, he knows all this stuff. He didn’t have to “cram” only practise making his answers more to point. Look at Palin-now that’s cramming for an interview. If you cram for it, it’ll show, no doubt. You just can’t force lots of information you’ve never thought about into your brain in a few days and not appearing unnatural. You just can’t.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am

I know this is off topic..I remember when McCain was one of the Keating Five.I have yet to hear McCain address this.

Posted by: off topic | September 29, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am

WHY IS IT THAT THE FATHER’S WISHES ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED OR EVEN CONSIDERED? THE FATHER OF THE SOLDIER HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE DOESN’T WANT OBAMA USING HIS SON’S NAME. EVEN IF THE MOTHER IS OK WITH OBAMA USING HER SONS NAME EVEN AFTER THE FAMILY ASKED HIM NOT TO, THAT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S OK FOR OBAMA TO DO IT. WHAT ABOUT HOW THE FATHER FEELS? THAT WAS HIS SON TOO.

Posted by: Wayne | September 29, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

STOP THE BRACELET MADNESS! Stupid McLame trick. Now, really, why not urge them to show support for Wall Street with NIPPLE RINGS? Makes sense given the situation.

Posted by: CrawDaddy_in_DC | September 29, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am

This is sort of reminiscent of Bill Clinton desecrating the beach at Normandy and using a planted piece of driftwood to draw a cross in the sand.
Barry is a disingenuous liar to propose that he cares anything about our military.
He snubs them when cameras aren’t allowed and he is well on record as being against the war.
If elected he will leave us wide open to any foreign aggressor.
Obama you are despicable.

Posted by: Mark | September 29, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

this is a non-story.
once again, drudge has twisted the facts by giving a misleading headline.
mother was fine with it — obama’s going to win — and he should.
we should all thank obama for even considering cleaning up the mess of the republicans. if i were him, i wouldn’t even want the job.

Posted by: alien | September 29, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP REFERRING TO BRIAN JOPEK AS THE “EX-HUSBAND”?!! HE IS RYAN JOPEK’S FATHER!!!!!!!HIS WISHES ABOUT HIS SONS NAME SHOULD BE HONORED. THIS IS DISGRACEFUL.

Posted by: Wayne | September 29, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

To OFF TOPIC:
Sen. McCain was in the Keating 5. The head investigator recommended that he be removed from the group, and cleared. But he was the only Republican, with 4 other “Keating” Dems…..so they held him hostage, after they found nothing. The investigation stated that “Without a doubt, Senator McCain is an honest man.” Nice try……check your facts.

Posted by: msa | September 29, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am

After 8 years, finally there is a ray of hope in America and we can thank Barack Obama.
God bless America and the democrats.

Posted by: Brighter Days Ahead | September 29, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. soldiers have donated more presidential campaign money to Democrat Barack Obama than to Republican John McCain, a reversal of previous campaigns in which military donations tended to favor GOP White House hopefuls, a nonpartisan group reported Thursday.
Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama’s presidential campaign as they have to McCain’s, the Center for Responsive Politics said.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Concerned’
Wow! 0bama insisted on using a fallen soldier as a political gimmick even after the family asked him to stop?
How shameful.
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The sivorced wife gave Obama the bracelet and is ecstatic that he mentioned her fallen son.
Spinning lies is what is shameful,
but not unexpected.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

Obama would have never mentioned the bracelot if McCain didn’t mention his first. Why? Because he DOES NOT support the troops and would not even go out of his way in Europe to visit the injured troops because the cameras couldn’t follow him. He had to read the name on the bracelot as he stuttered.
Bill Clinton has nothing but good to say about McCain and when asked about Obama said that he only met him once in Harlem. He also said that he would never have been able to mend relations with Vietnam had it not been for McCain.

Posted by: Maureen | September 29, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

To invoke the name of dead soldiers for political gain is very repugnant to those of us who have served.
The father of the soldier also served and has asked Barrak Hussein Obama not to use the soldiers name again. If Barrak Hussein Obama has a pittance of decency he would comply with the fathers wishes, as that father has served , something Barak Hussein Obama has chosen not to do.
Senator Mcain has a well known history and need not explain anything about his service to the great unwashed masses, he should know better than to invoke the fallen for gain.
I think that both should continue to wear the bracelets to aid them in remembering that the decisions they make are carried out by others, and sometimes result in the ultimate sacrifice.
At a minimum John Mcain has some understanding or service and sacrifice, Barak Hussein Obama has none. A wise advisor would suggest to him these are topics beyond his scope and he should limit himself to the Jesse Jackson like slogans like “The audacity of hope” He is on much sounder ground when he spouts polemics with no meaning.

Posted by: Dennis Corbet | September 29, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

Maureen,
Apparently the troops disagree with you.
I know most veterans do.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Ifd ou are from IL you might remember that a few years ago many thought that they had a savior in another lib who was running for governor who now is going to end up in prison because he thought he was elected king of the people. BO was and is part of the same group this man (?) can from and if he should get elected look for king BO. He has already shown his superior attitude by going into MO and wanting people arrested who are speaking out against him. Look, both of these guys are just mere humans and if you allow them to be in charge of your life you don’t have one. Get life and these men will not be so important in your life. I’m sure that either one will come visiting after the election, ya right! This election doesn’t really show the men running for the office but that the lack of life for many who are so involved in the process. After the election you will be just as hungry for a leader in your life as you are today. Many years ago some men wanted a king to rule over them and in a short time they hated the king.

Posted by: jd | September 29, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Why a mother would give her son’s bracelet to a man who never even served in the military and has zero experience in anything except community organization is beyond me-It’s scary to think that a man with ties to radical anti-american pastors, a terrorist, and on and on we go, could even be CONSIDERED to lead this great nation! Seems to me he should not even be re-elected to the Senate!

Posted by: chuck thomas | September 29, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am

If it was John McCain the MEDIA would have made it their headline story. I could see the headline “McCain wearing fallen soldier braclet for political gain”. These media outlets should do their jobs and not think the American people are stupid or for that matter a bunch of puppets hanging on the medias every word.
McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: Missy | September 29, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am

People are asking why this is an important issue. I will tell you why, this soldier finds Obama’s comments reprehensible. Even before knowing the FACT the family had asked Obama to quit politicizing the soldier’s death. Obama’s mention of SGT Jopek’s named appeared to be shallow and disingenuous. I make this judgment due to the fact Obama struggled with the name and he brought it up as if a 3rd grader would say “Well I’ve got a piece of candy too”.
We can argue the fact that SGT Jopek’s mother in retrospect was happy Obama used her son’s name, because it was a rebuttal to McCains bracelet comment. Regardless of the mother’s afterthought, Obama displayed complete disregard to the mother’s direct request to quit WEARING the bracelet at political rallies. Now, the father has never supported his fallen son’s death to be politicized for a cause (Obama’s Iraq Policy) that he does not support
How can Obama earn the trust and confidence of the American Service Members or the American People, if he cannot even adhere to the simple wishes of the family of the fallen soldier.
This is just one more reason why many soldiers, to include myself will either ETS or retire ASAP, if Obama is elected as their CiC. He will

Posted by: 18zulu | September 29, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

Wow! McBush insisted on using a fallen soldier as a political gimmick.
How shameful

Posted by: LarryB | September 29, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am

You know, I have no dog in the fight either way as I’m undecided, but you morons who continually invoke Obama’s middle name are nothing but schoolyard “cutdown” artists, and eak ones at it. George Bush’s middle name is Walker. Am I to deduce that he was named after the mercenary William Walker who was hell bent on colonizing Central America?
Similar behavior patterns.

Posted by: Joe | September 29, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Posted by: Bobc | Sep 28, 2008 6:07:27 PM
This is a non-story. The big story is why did Paulson’s aides text Obama the Republican’s plans on the bailout, before he met at the White House?
Paulson is a Democrat, come to find out, some of his people have been texting Obama several things over time.
This is the story that needs more investigating and reported.
see blogs
Bobc = What blogs?

Posted by: Mac | September 29, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

LOL…BUSH is the best & McLame is his clone.
BREAKING NEWS: Citigroup to buy troubled Wachovia’s banking operations, FDIC says
And you fools gripe over a bracelet…as a vet, I don’t GAF. Look at the RightWing mess. Obama/Biden will be in for a tough challenge.

Posted by: CrawDaddy_in_DC | September 29, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

Hepatitis,
Obama is not worthy enough to even say Ryan Jopek’s name.
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Take that up with his mother.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am

Obama has no honor and continualy shows it this is just another example.
Accuses our troops of bombing innocent Iraqies and the trys to gain advantage by saying he’s wearing a braclet with one of the troops names on it. Again speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

Posted by: navy65 | September 29, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

*
Obama would prop her son’s body up on stage if he thought it would get him more votes. This is a man who is a serial promoter of the killing of the unborn, (remember, little babies to him are an STD), so using a dead soldier’s name for his own promotion when he knew it was not what the family had in mind is so Obama.
What did Obama ever do to sacrifice for this country? ANSWER = NOTHING. So take that sainted soldier’s name off your wrist Obama, you have not earned the right.
*BERT

Posted by: BERT CONVY | September 29, 2008, 8:35 am 8:35 am

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. soldiers have donated more presidential campaign money to Democrat Barack Obama than to Republican John McCain, a reversal of previous campaigns in which military donations tended to favor GOP White House hopefuls, a nonpartisan group reported Thursday.
Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama’s presidential campaign as they have to McCain’s, the Center for Responsive Politics said.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Hmmm…recheck your sources. It seems that the rest of the story is out and the family of the fallen soldier made the statements earlier this year because of hounding from the press. The mother and father NOW are happy that Obama mentioned their son and is wearing the bracelet. I look forward to you printing this pare of the story as well!

Posted by: SanityCheck | September 29, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

PLEASE do some checking so you people who are blinded by your Bush hatreed will realize that the majority of the financial mess is from Democrats. This is their baby started over a decade ago and now they have Bush to scapegoat it on. McCain was screaming about Fannie and Freddie being an impending disaster back in 1998but no one listened. Now Bush and the Democrats are pushing the biggest socialist step since FDR.
Let AIG and Fannie and Freddie FAIL. We’ll come out of it for the better.

Posted by: David | September 29, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

Like I been saying, Obama’s an empty suit. We shudda gone with Clinton. Now McCain’s gonna win. At least the vets love him

Posted by: Condor | September 29, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

David is confused about the discussion here.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

This “I’m a soldier….so what I think has some sort of clout” is BS. Just because you joined the army out of a sense of duty (or, in some cases, to find an identity), does not mean that you have any insight in to the big picture of politics. Soldiers are not more brave than many civilians. I would eagerly defend my country in the time of need- I’ve just stayed out of the service because I have yet to see a war where we were actually defending our nation. It is always some convoluted explanation covering up the more obvious reasons. Save your posturing for the bar.

Posted by: joe | September 29, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

Condor apparently is willing to use the veterans every bit as much as Grampy McHothead is willing to cheat them.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

Wow! McCain used a fallen soldier as a political gimmick?
How shameful.

Posted by: Jethro | September 29, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

McCain is yesterday’s news. This country needs a new direction with fresh competent leadership. That is why Obama is running away with this and will be the 44th president of the US.
The republicans have had their turn and ran every area of the country into the ground. Americans have had enough.
Obama/Biden 2008 & 2012

Posted by: Nguyen in CA | September 29, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

ralph,
We throw pies here which perfectly mirrors the human condition.
Just pick a subject that you like and grab a custard.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

The McCain-Cheney-Bush crowd will say and do anything to hide the blood on their hands. Pitiful! Absolutely pitiful. Just what did rove and bush do to you in 2000 Mr. McCain?

Posted by: Russell in BR | September 29, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

Sounds like this woman is not really sure what she wants. I feel for her loss.
As for Obama, I have no good feelings about this man. He will do whatever it takes and use what ever forces he has at his disposal to take the power of the presidency. He is not doing this for the people but for himself and I dread the day that happens for America.

Posted by: Bob from Illinois | September 29, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Yea, blame the Dems on the Wall Street mess…I blame both sides. What the Bush lovers fail to realize is the Texan has been “watching” for 8 years and did nothing. Remember tax incentives to buy Hummers? Repub congress too on that one.
So as to stick to topic, Vets have always been taken advantage of, happens all the time and is a very sad fact. STOP the bracelet MADNESS…who cares? Like all the American flags on the ground after 911 I saw littering the DC beltway, it is a mute point.

Posted by: CrawDaddy_in_DC | September 29, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am

Bob from Illinois gently dismisses the
mothers opinion, how compassionate.
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Sounds like this woman is not really sure what she wants. I feel for her loss.
As for Obama, I have no good feelings about this man. He will do whatever it takes and use what ever forces he has at his disposal to take the power of the presidency. He is not doing this for the people but for himself and I dread the day that happens for America.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am

Crawdaddy,
Yeah there is enough blame to go around.
I sure wish I had some old pundit show video of a Representative saying loudly that it’s Americans right to drive Hummers as far and as often as they want to.
Not to be crude, but at that point I wanted to start measuring fuel economy in ‘soldiers per mile’. He was a real flag waver.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 29, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Leonard,
Exactly. I could care less about Hummers, bracelets, or honorable vets like McCain (I do respect his service), it is just the fact the our current emperor has no cloths! Can’t we see that Bush has refused to acknowledge our economic warning signs? That is what burns me as I circle DC 5 days a week. Don’t get me wrong, both sides say what they want just to get votes, but I’m all for kicking the bums out and starting fresh.

Posted by: CrawDaddy_in_DC | September 29, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Really, Mac? Paulson “texted” Obama the Republicans plans….A. he’s not a 13 year old girl and B. the Republicans would have been screaming about it, which they aren’t.
Either way, using McCain’s philosophy on not ending wars b/c it will be undignified for soldiers who laid down their lives, we would therefore be at war INDEFINITLY. We’d still be fighting the revolution, civil war, WWI & II and Vietnam with that mentality. You can’t just stay fighting to avenge someone’s death.
And if you are, at least have all the facts BEFORE you send lives into combat. You can’t keep in Iraq because you don’t want to be wrong. That’s not what a Commander in Cheif is.

Posted by: Park | September 29, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

Honestly, I don’t see how Obama has been politicising the soldier’s death. It was McCain who has been waving his bracelet in everyone’s face at every campaign stop. Obama just quietly wore his, I hadn’t heard him make a big show about it.
It’s just that that night it served as a strong response to McCain’s comment: showing how not every soldier or their family shared the same opinion, not so much focussing or trying to politicise the soldier’s death.
He didn’t forget the name, he just backed up because he said the soldier’s name first instead of “the mother of…”
Look at their actions. McCain has voted against bills for veterans. Obama has voted for them.
(Oh, P.S, McCain was missing his flag pin while Obama wore one! Le Gasp!)

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

BHO doesn’t care about soldiers.
Barack Obama has had a long association with his Weather Underground Terrorist friend William Ayers who declared WAR ON AMERICA!
NOBODY in the mainstream media will talk about this fact.
Just this week, the Wall Street Journal ran a HUGE exposé on the long relationship between Obama and Ayers, entitled “Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools” — giving details about what they did together.
Obama and Ayers served together in 1995 on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, overseeing the distribution of about $50 million to area schools through radical left-wing groups. Ayers “called for infusing students and their parents with a radical political commitment, and which downplayed achievement tests in favor of activism.”
That same year — 1995 — Barack Obama’s first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a gathering at Ayers’s own home!
The Weathermen declared war on the United States government, and they bombed over 30 establishments (leading to multiple fatalities, including police officers).
Sept. 11, 2001, Ayers is quoted by The New York Times as saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs … I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Obama and Ayers not only worked hand-in-hand at the CAC; they worked together at the “Woods Fund,” and had a number of forums together. And guess what “nonprofit organizations” benefited from funds directed to them by Obama and Ayers? How about Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church, for starters?
William Ayers, once said, “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at.” A man who bombed the Pentagon and doesn’t regret it. And the man who almost single-handedly launched Barack Obama’s political career.

Posted by: jdub297 | September 29, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Grey Matter…OMG, what an eagle eye! LOL, where is the outrage, the rants, the marches on DC? He must have left it on the nightstand in his rush to Mississippi. Le Gasp! Too funny, must reuse that one…if you provide permission. ;-)

Posted by: CrawDaddy_in_DC | September 29, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

When Obama had the, “I got a bracelet too!”, remark I laughed so hard I cried. It reminded me of an old Eddie Murphy skit from his Delirious album. He’s acting like a little kid and starts yelling at the other kids, “I got some icecream, I got some icecream!” Just the way BO said it made me think of the Eddie Murphy skit. It just confirmed what I think of Obama. He’s a joke.

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 29, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

CrawDaddy_in_DC,
Lol, go ahead :) I don’t own the phrase, unlike certain people who think the phrase “lipstick” is copyrighted.
Normally I wouldn’t quantify anyone’s patriotism by seeing if they wore a flag pin, but seeing how McCain jumped all over Obama for it earlier this year, I thought it justified. I seriously cannot bear having another impulsive, hot-tempered president. Heck, McCain makes Bush look serene and unruffled in comparison.
I don’t remember even Bush pulling so many stunts and Hail Marys in his campaign! It was also PAINFUL to watch Palin’s interview with Katie Couric. Couric was pretty friendly and non-threatening that was enough for Palin to trip up. And I couldn’t help laughing at her hand gestures when she talked about Putin “rearing his head”.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am

Al,
You obviously missed the point. Not every soldier’s family supports McCain or his policies (as much as the Repubs would like everyone to believe).
Not every family of a dead soldier wants us to stay in Iraq because their son or daughter died there.
McCain made the first move in politicizing the death of a soldier and Obama countered. That’s what a debate is.
If you didn’t like it being brought up, take it up with McCain. And mention his horrible voting record for vets while you’re at it. You can’t hijack being the “party of the military” when you’re not willing to support them in the legislature.

Posted by: Park | September 29, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Next Obama is going to pull the old, “I know you are, but what am I?” argument. Nothing stinks worse than BO!
McCain/Palin ’08

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 29, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Park,
He had every right to bring it up. It was the way he stammered, and the tone of arrogance in his voice that I found funny. He sounded disingenuous. The funny thing is, I don’t recall seeing a bracelet on his wrist. He may have wore it while campaigning, but I didn’t see it on his wrist during the debate.
Enough things stink in Washington! The last thing we need is BO!

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 29, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Craw-Daddy, have you read either of Barack’s books?
He taught as part of “political activism” all blacks’ problems were caused by white Americans.
He sponsored and supported legislation to let unwanted babies die after birth or to authorize their killing.
He bragged how he partied with a white friend while thinking to himself how much he wanted “to punch him out.”
He mentions several times how proud he is of hisd “Muslim Heritage.” (Of course his suppporters and handlers cued him to retract those statements. Even so, he said it to Stephanopolous just a week ago on TV.)
While you’re at the Daly Library, check out one of his books, but it’s pretty wqell known that his operatives are checking the books out to remove them from circulation.
He is no friend of our soldiers. That bracelet is a talisman he cann pull out and use as a political tool.

Posted by: jdub297 | September 29, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Obama’s appears to think McCains bracelet a clever political ploy….one that he tried to phony up. After forgetting the names of those who he wears the bracelet for, he clumsily had to look down and read the name off the bracelet. Didn’t appear authentic. Guess, you first need to fake sincerity.

Posted by: flee | September 29, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

jdub297, no I have not read his books and will not. I have a right to my opinion just as you do. I will not be swayed by your pontifications and I do believe Obama is the right choice for America.

Posted by: CrawDaddy_in_DC | September 29, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Jeez,
Honestly, can McCain EVER go a day without a reference to his POW days or being tortured by the Viet Cong or anything to do with the Vietnam War?!
Regarding bailout: “I’m an old Navy pilot, and I know that in times of crises, you need all hands on the deck.”
Regarding Biden’s remark on his being out of touch and having to decide which kitchen table to tabulate his bills on:”I spent five and a half years in a prison cell, I didn’t have a house, I didn’t have a kitchen table, I didn’t have a table, I didn’t have a chair”
WE KNOW THAT MCCAIN! SO DID DOZENS OF OTHER SOLDIERS!
And not all of them are living as good a life as you are. Many had missing limbs. Many were blinded or paralysed. Many did not even return.
I am not disrespecting McCain’s service, but could he please run on something else more then his POW thing? He’s the one who slammed Obama for running his campaign on an “Autobiography” and well…
Just because he faced down the Viet Cong and was in the military doesn’t neccessarily qualify him to be Commander-in-Chief.
Everyone, I think it is important to remember, why in the first place, the major decisions of the military ultimately is controlled by civilians.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 29, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

“jdub297, no I have not read his books and will not. I have a right to my opinion just as you do. I will not be swayed by your pontifications and I do believe Obama is the right choice for America. You smell of swiftboatness…right?” Posted by: CrawDaddy_in_DC
It amazes me that some people will blindly follow someone like this. What would it hurt you to read his book. He wrote it so it can’t be some swift boat ad. Are afraid of what you will find?
Here let me quopte some of it.
“I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.” Barrack Obama
“Junkie. Pothead. That’s where I’d been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. Except the highs hadn’t been about that, me trying to prove what a down brother I was. Not by then, anyway. I got high for just the opposite effect, something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory. I had discovered that it didn’t make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmate’s sparkling new van, or in the dorm room of some brother you’d met down at the gym, or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school and now spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl. …You might just be bored, or alone. Everybody was welcome into the club of disaffection.” — Barack Obama
Come on people. It is your responsibility to research your candidates!

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 29, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Park,
What a waste of time that snopes site was. That isn’t what you call research, is it? Anyone could have thrown that site up. You need to hit more .gov sites if your serious about research.
Some helpful hints:
1. Check voting records.
2. Read anything written by the candidate.
3. Ask his former consituents.
If you still want to vote for Obama after doing these three simple things, then go ahead. You will have to live with it.

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 29, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Come on people. It is your responsibility to research your candidates!
Posted by: Al-in-Indy |
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You seem to think Obama’s forthright admissions of his thoughts and behaviors before he was 21 years old are important, maybe you should heed your own advice and do some research into McCains thoughts and behaviors. he was just as bizaare and wacked out as he is today. (along with his boozing and drug use)

Posted by: Truth Matters | September 29, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Al,
I have done research and have my man. I like his stance on vets and that women don’t need government intervention on how to act. I don’t trust someone who thinks Big Government should keep their hands off my guns, but go ahead and involve yourselves in our women.
However, when you throw up quotes taken out of context without referencing the entirety of the book, you look silly. Who hasn’t been rebellious during their youth? And you’ve missed the point on being biracial and having struggled with the question of “where do I fit”.
Last time I checked, Obama’s books or personal feelings weren’t government staples on any gov site.
And doesn’t McCain reference his affairs in leaving his disabled wife for the young filly Cindy Lou and then pressing said wife for a divorce so he could marry Cindy and her $? That looks like a pretty juicy quote taken out of context also.

Posted by: Park | September 29, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

All of you need to read S109, you’ll see that McCain in 2005 drafted a legislation to regulate the financial institutions and it got shot down by Mr. Franks. The Democrats are the party of thiefs… Mr. Obama is an amoral individual with the soul of lucifer.

Posted by: Mrs. Ramsey | September 29, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Mrs. Ramsey,
You’re so cute. A 2005 legislation doesn’t make up for 26 years of deregulation by McCain. That and you know, a little thing called the Keating 5. I like free markets too, but if you don’t have some regulation, Wall St. will do as they please. You can’t assume everyone is honest or will act with the best business sense.
Also, do you have the full bill name? S109 doesn’t seem to come up.

Posted by: Park | September 29, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

“You seem to think Obama’s forthright admissions of his thoughts and behaviors before he was 21 years old are important, maybe you should heed your own advice and do some research into McCains thoughts and behaviors. he was just as bizaare and wacked out as he is today. (along with his boozing and drug use)” Posted by: Truth Matters
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Not just his admissions. Combine his books “admissions” with his voting record and what his former constituents have to say about him and you get a complete picture of Mr. Obama. Why is it you feel the need to make excuses? I think it’s because you have too much emotionally invested in him. Now, I know McCain has his issues too. I hated McCain-Fiengold, McCain-Leiberman, McCain-Kennedy and the countless other bipartisan crap he’s done. Oh, wait, McCain couldn’t possibly be bipartisan? I also understand his record during his early military years wars that of a trouble maker. Everytime I look at the two candidates I have to go back to life experience, McCain beats Obama every time, and the three thing all voters should check:
1. Check voting records.
2. Read anything written by the candidate.
3. What are his former consituents saying.
BO has failed every one of my litmus tests. Sorry I can’t vote for BO and will recommend to anyone willing to listen that they do some research.

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 29, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Silly me, I thought that the idea of doing these posts was to aay something, ANYTHING about the article.
Mc Bush is a disaster and the poll numbers reflect this. He mentions that bracelet and POW POW POW all of the time.
Thank goodness for a freah face and the turning of the page on this type of governing.
OUT WITH OLD (really really old white haired wrinkly dud (ah dude or both) and in with OBAMA/BIDEN

Posted by: Tucker Bounds | September 29, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Al,
Both candidates have their misgivings and really, neither are the best of either party. I would have voted in a heartbeat for McCain in 2000, however in this election he seems to have been hijacked by the evangelical right. Most likely because he was too moderate in 2000 and needed to appeal to the Repub. base if he wanted to win.
But I think someone who OK’s suspending the Constitution is dangerous. Someone with a known and noted temper shouldn’t be placed in a position of power. And someone who feels the need to constantly attack his opponent with not just malicious – but false – ads is dishonorable. The only pro-McCain ad McCain has put out is calling himself a maverick.

Posted by: Park | September 29, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Republicans always think they own the troops – of course, they treat them like ammo and vote against their care. Obama was right to point out that many veterans mothers’ have approached him to ask him not let other peoples’ children die in a senseless war. McCain is a particular hypocrite on this, considering that he has the supremely low 20% voting rating from the Disabled Veterans’ of America. He supports the troops as ammo, but not as humans. Gross.

Posted by: Sarah | September 29, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Republicans always think they own the troops – of course, they treat them like ammo and vote against their care. Obama was right to point out that many veterans mothers’ have approached him to ask him not let other peoples’ children die in a senseless war. McCain is a particular hypocrite on this, considering that he has the supremely low 20% voting rating from the Disabled Veterans’ of America. He supports the troops as ammo, but not as humans. Gross.

Posted by: Sarah | September 29, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Jopek, in her own words, claimed she was “ecstatic” to hear Obama stay true to her son’s memory.
This is another example of conservatives trying to use the military to score political points.
Shame!

Posted by: Blip | September 29, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Mrs. Ramsey, yes I saw the S109 and think it interesting a little…no doubt Bush squashed it. I dunno.
As for lucifer, lucifer who? Bush?, Cheney? Rove? Please…lucifer was at the UN…didn’t you smell the sulpher? You are too funny bringing up lucifer…go back and read your good book…there you will find lucifer.

Posted by: CrawDaddy_in_DC | September 29, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

McSame was trying to make “hay” out of the death of one soldier in an unwarranted war by pointing out his bracelet! So what? Obama is correct in pointing out that he too, in owning a bracelet, knows the pain of families who have suffered because of the war. McSame does not own the “war” but he should hold responsibility for the deaths because it is an unjustified war, not just for the families here in the US, but also for the families of all the people, whether from Iraq or the coalition forces. McSame, if he is honorable, should shoulder the burden of responsibility especially since he declared that he will stay for another 100 years.

Posted by: Karen | September 29, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

B. Hussein Obama couldn’t even remember the name on his prop… er, bracelet. Missing those teleprompters much, Barry?

Posted by: Ned Flanders | September 29, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Yes, Obama knew the name of the guy on his bracelet, and McCain’s gave the wrong first name on his, but more importantly, do you think John McCain knows the name of a single one of the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed over in Iraq?

Posted by: Voter in America | September 29, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

I have a bracelet too! I bought it on eBay!
The Russians, who I can see from my backyard, are sending troops disguised as polar bears to take my bracelet!
God created the polar bears and dinosaurs just 6,000 years ago, and if he wanted them to live he would have given them bracelets to waive in your face as well!

Posted by: Sarah Moron Palin | September 29, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

“Yes, Obama knew the name of the guy on his bracelet, and McCain’s gave the wrong first name on his, but more importantly, do you think John McCain knows the name of a single one of the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed over in Iraq?” Posted by: Voter in America
Here is an example of what we can expect if we put a liberal in the White House. They are all about calling our soldiers murderers, and of course forgetting that the people with bombs tied to their backs and wearing plain clothes never hurt civilians. This is the pathetic argument of some on the left. I also wouldn’t doubt if this “Voter in America” is not an American at all.

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 29, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Park, I actually enjoyed commenting with you. You are the only one on here that could state any valid arguments for your candidate, and I respect that. Haven’t changed my opinion of him, and I still feel McCain is the better candidate. I need to gat out of here. The Loons are coming out of the wood work and I have some tings to do.
Later.

Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 29, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Park writes. “A 2005 legislation doesn’t make up for 26 years of deregulation by McCain.” Yes, it all McCains fault. He alone among all the Senators and Representatives causes deregulation which causes this mess. Not! It is Democrats failed policies of pushing easy credit for those who should not own homes to own homes. If you are not able to pay for something you should not buy it. Deregulation is a good thing except when you have Washington liberals try to make the free market bend to their will messing with the how the free market works. McCain tried to do something about it but again he was only one man. At least he had the foresight to try to make real change, as he pushed for in Iraq. McCain has proven he is the candidate of real change as he has pushed for it and has caused it unlike the empty suit who is his opponent whose only real change is trying to change his job once he gets a new one.

Posted by: Minnesotaman | September 29, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

GoUSA247 do you live in the past? Have you forgotten that you had 6 years of Republican rule? So if this was all Bill’s fault why have the Republicans not cleaned it up and just sat at the war drums, (Crap they even got that one wrong, can you say Afghanistan or Al Qaeda and Bin Laden?) Always good at pointing fingers, but not good at pointing out solutions. If you are at work (that is if your job has not been given to someone over seas or not hit under the growing unemployment rolls) and you see a problem do you just leave it? Or do you doing something proactive to correct the problem? This is GW Bush’s presidency,. and the deregulation was all done way back when, but Bush had to undo Clinton’s work. God forbid if the other guy was making a surplus for America and paying our national debit off so our children would not have to. Try living in the here now, and look at the future not the past. You need to watch the Lion king again, most kids under the age of 10 know you can not change the past, but you can change the future.

Posted by: USCITIZEN_04 | September 29, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

The problem is that he didn’t know the man’s name. He had to look down at the bracelet. He’s an idiot, and should quite pandering.

Posted by: Tim | September 29, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

Two years ago, McCain never used to talk about his service believing it to be too sacred for political gain. But for most of this campaign, McCain has cheapened his own war sacrifice and those of others just get sympathy for his candidacy. Finally, Obama called him on it.

Posted by: Young Atheart | September 29, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Tim “The problem is that he didn’t know the man’s name.”
Anyone who watched it could see he was stumbling over the phrasing, having started out by saying the soldier gave it to him (obviously the mother, not the dead soldier, gave it to him). If had had rehearsed it and expected to use it as as a set piece pander like McCain, I’m sure his delivery would have been more to your liking.

Posted by: jhw539 | September 29, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

If McCain cared about soldiers killed in Iraq, why hasn’t he fought Bush’s policy of hiding the return of their coffins to America? Where has McCain been? He plays politics with a bracelet and stands silent as the cameras are barred from covering the dead.

Posted by: JTS | September 29, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Obama has little business making any comments about any fallen soldier, since he’s never spent a day in uniform McCain has given a great deal of his life to the service of our nation, and has fought and survived one of the most brutal wars of the past century. He is the only one qualified to speak on behalf of anyone that has served and seen combat and sacrificed their health, limbs or their life. McCain is not my first choice for president (Fred Thompson would have been a better alternative), but compared to Obama, he’s the only choice we have if we want to save America.

Posted by: Greg | September 29, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

“If McCain cared about soldiers killed in Iraq, why hasn’t he fought Bush’s policy of hiding the return of their coffins to America? Where has McCain been? He plays politics with a bracelet and stands silent as the cameras are barred from covering the dead.
Posted by: JTS | Sep”
Uh, this isn’t a “Bush” policy but one of the military and the UCMJ. the military respects their dead and doesn’t like to see them exploited. Early on in the war, a news photographer snuck a photo of some coffins being unloaded, against the express wishes and orders of the people responsible for them. THEY DON’T LIKE TO SEE THEIR SOLDIERS EXPLOITED, dead or alive. For you to ask to see every coffin departing every plane in order to make a point, well, you’re wishing to exploit them as well. This is also why the military prefers to not have embedded reporters, not because they have something to hide but because it is counter to a. their mission and b. respect for a dead soldier and his/her family.

Posted by: Nancy | September 29, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

i wonder where was macain bracelet? this moron macain brought up the subject and he was not wearing a bracelet. obama should have ask to see the bracelet

Posted by: ray | September 29, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

So the father lacks the guts and stones to stay married to the mother, but wants to disavow the mother’s wishes? Typical Republican crap. This guy walks out on his family, but wants to stand up and refute Obama. Put a dress on this guy and send him to Iraq – gutless coward. We need more men in this country willing to stay married and less cowards wanting to take political shots at Godly men like Obama. Is this what the Republican party has become? The party of adulterers and divorcees? The party that can’t keep commitments and sends our citizens to die without any forethought or commitment?
Posted by: Dave
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Boy, talk about judgemental! I am a woman and I was the one that ended my marriage and left. What right does anyone have to make such a statement? Blows my mind how evil and small minded some people are. The only comfort is… what goes around comes around! This guys wife (if he even has one) has every reason to walk out on him. He is purely hateful.

Posted by: Voting for McCain because of Palin | September 29, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

I think most people are missing the point of the bracelet story. You will have family who think that their child/husband/wife died for the country and it is a great honor. You will have other people who think that their child/husband/wife, while server their country bravely died for an unjust war. The fact that McCain is pushing that this mother and other mothers are right about their kids dying and that they are proud to keep the fight going (by they are not wrong for feeling that way), it doesn’t negate the fact that other military family are outrage and against the fact that kids are dying for an unjust war. Sound bites are good, but neither John or Obama can fully care about the issues of the soilders, because they are not picking them up in a body bag or taking them for rehab. I am not saying that both men are without feelings, I am saying that it hit home harder than it does the general public. So, for the mom who wants all the troops our that is fine and for the mom who want us to stay the course that is fine, as long as you don’t make it a platform, because I am “right” for my views and you are wrong for your views and vice versa.
BTW: has anyone seen the stock market today? *nod nod wink wink* Let’s get back to serious stuff and leave the bracelets on your wrists.

Posted by: Richard | September 29, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

jdub297 – is this the best that right-wing extremists can do? Spread unsubstantianted lies? Stop spreading blog BS, nitwit

Posted by: nhmtnbkr | September 29, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

It’s amazing to me how many people on here glibly throw around the phrase “unjust war” as if it were an established or generally accepted fact. I have news for you, at least half of America doesn’t agree with you. Stop going around assuming everyone agrees with you and Code Pink.
It just shows your ignorance and hubris.
Go back to the voting records of congress and see just how many of them voted to support the war in Iraq, and how many of them that now say they are against the war started by Bush, considered Saddam a real threat when Clinton was in office and were supportive of Clintons belligerent stance towards the regime of Saddam. Talk about hypocracy.
As far as the bracelet issue goes, that is and should be a private matter for the person that wears it. I spent 12 years in the Marines and have lost more friends in training mishaps than I have in combat. I know a lot of Marines that wear memory bracelets, and it is a personal choice, just like having a lapel pin with an American flag, or wearing a cross or other religious symbol around your neck. It doesn’t make you more or less patriotic, or more or less supportive of the troops, it merely means you choose to display those symbols. What that symbol means to you is a personal matter, and you should never try and use it to justify your actions or prove you are “holier than thou” to an opponent. It cheapens the meaning of the symbol and the sacrifices made to give it that meaning.
The only relevance that any of this has in the campaign should be that we are in a state of war, and that we need a leader with both executive and military experience to guide us through this conflict. Obama has neither. McCain has both, it’s as simple as that.

Posted by: Greg | September 29, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Someone asked how to find the bill McCain co-sponsored in 2005 – I googled it.
S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005

Posted by: Anna | September 29, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

You know conservatism is to conserve the goods in each and every one of us. Thinks most of these poor souls that had given their souls to devil have to get it back. I used to believe in a conservative idea but lately I started to wonder what are these airhead are trying to conserve. They against anything that has anything to do with common people. On deceiving yourselves

Posted by: Ocean11 | September 29, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Concerned in OH, slow down and re-read the story. It seems that mom did ask Obama not to use it for his stumps, which he did. But then you have McSame using it during the debates, when Obama used his to counter McSame’s, the Mom was very proud, as this mom did not want other mothers to feel the pain she has at the loss of her child.

Posted by: USCITIZEN_04 | September 29, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Someone said Obama would do anything for a vote? Wait a minute wasn’t McShame the one who brought up the fallen soldier 1st?

Posted by: Bea | September 29, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

What is funny is McSame used that Bracelet as a back drop. He will use his Ammo to promote how he knows more about war, but when the Camera is off he votes no on all thing pertaining to our veterans.
Tuesday, February 26, 2008 – Since everyone is at least a bit familiar with John McCain’s record when it comes to strolling through a market in Baghdad with hundreds of his closest guards, or how he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years (except when he flip flops on that).
But not that many really, truly know just how horrific his voting record is when it comes to the troops. And it is pretty consistent – whether it is for armor and equipment, for veteran’s health care, for adequate troop rest or anything that actually, you know, supports our troops.
This is chock full of links to the roll call votes, and the roll call votes have links to the actual underlying bills and amendments. I present this so that there is support and things that can be rattled off when saying that McCain is not a friend of the military. Feel free to use it as you want, but this can be tied into the “Double Talk Express”. But here is a very quick statement – John McCain skipped close to a dozen votes on Iraq, and on at least another 10 occasions, he voted against arming and equipping the troops, providing adequate rest for the troops between deployments and for health care or other benefits for veterans.
In mid 2007, Senator Reid noted that McCain missed 10 of the past 14 votes on Iraq. However, here is a summary of a dozen votes (two that he missed and ten that he voted against) with respect to Iraq, funding for veterans or for troops, including equipment and armor. I have also included other snippets related to the time period when the vote occurred.
September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments. At the time, nearly 65% of people polled in a CNN poll indicted that “things are going either moderately badly or very badly in Iraq.
July 2007: McCain voted against a plan to drawdown troop levels in Iraq. At the time, an ABC poll found that 63% thought the invasion was not worth it, and a CBS News poll found that 72% of respondents wanted troops out within 2 years.
March 2007: McCain was too busy to vote on a bill that would require the start of a drawdown in troop levels within 120 days with a goal of withdrawing nearly all combat troops within one year. Around this time, an NBC News poll found that 55% of respondents indicated that the US goal of achieving victory in Iraq is not possible. This number has not moved significantly since then.
February 2007: For such a strong supporter of the escalation, McCain didn’t even bother to show up and vote against a resolution condemning it. However, at the time a CNN poll found that only 16% of respondents wanted to send more troops to Iraq (that number has since declined to around 10%), while 60% said that some or all should be withdrawn. This number has since gone up to around 70%.
June 2006: McCain voted against a resolution that Bush start withdrawing troops but with no timeline to do so.
May 2006: McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.
April 2006: McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.
March 2006: McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.
March 2004: McCain once again voted for abusive tax loopholes over veterans when he voted against creating a reserve fund to allow for an increase in Veterans’ medical care by $1.8 billion by eliminating abusive tax loopholes. Jeez, McCain really loves those tax loopholes for corporations, since he voted for them over our veterans’ needs.
October 2003: McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq and to reduce the amount provided for reconstruction in Iraq by $322,000,000.
April 2003: McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.
August 2001: McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000. To his credit, he also voted against the 2001 Bush tax cuts, which he now supports making permanent, despite the dire financial condition this country is in, and despite the fact that he indicated in 2001 that these tax cuts unfairly benefited the very wealthy at the expense of the middle class.
So there it is. John McCain is yet another republican former military veteran who likes to talk a big game when it comes to having the support of the military. Yet, time and time again, he has gone out of his way to vote against the needs of those who are serving in our military. If he can’t even see his way to actually doing what the troops want, or what the veterans need, and he doesn’t have the support of veterans, then how can he be a credible commander in chief?

Posted by: USCITIZEN_04 | September 29, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

John McCain has missed 420 votes (64.5%) during the current Congress.

Posted by: USCITIZEN_04 | September 29, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

First off, I know the Jopek’s, and have many friends that still have and wear the bracelet with Ryan’s name on it. Tracy gave Obama the bracelet for a reason. She wanted him to wear it. She never asked him not to. Why would she have givin it to him just to later tell him not to wear it? She asked him not to use it in the campaign to make an issue out of it, and he hasn’t. He used it as a response, to show McCain that not every family that has lost somebody in the war supports it and wants them to stay there. She supported him in his response, and was happy that he did it in this way. It was not just because he remembered him that she was happy, it was the way he handled it. It was Brian, a McCain supporter, that did not want Obama to wear the bracelet so he is making it look like Obama disrespected her wishes, which he did not. Just because he doesn’t want Obama to wear it because he is a McCain supporter, is he not supposed to?
Greg, just because McCain faught in the war back in the 1600′s does not mean that he will make a good president. If this is the case then are you saying anybody that soldier could make it as President? I don’t think so. The war is just a small issue in this campaign. The biggest issue is the economy which McCain knows absolutely nothing about. And congress supported the war because the reason they were told they were going to war, which later turned out to be a lie. Bush wanted a war, and he got it. He invaded a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, and now the issue is how to get out of it.

Posted by: Haley | September 29, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

READ……. S L O W L Y
however, the notion that Obama is wearing the hero bracelet against the wishes of the family — or more specifically, the mother, who gave him the bracelet — is more complicated that it first seemed. She did ask Obama to stop mentioning her son on the stump, ************************ but she approved of the way Obama invoked her son in the debate **********

Posted by: USCITIZEN_04 | September 29, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

I heard a lot of stuttering and stammering from Obama, and a whole lot of irritated facial switches. Why can’t he answer a question directly? He talks in circles. I never heard him say anything but he plans to raise taxes.

Posted by: southern_conservative | September 29, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Greg – I totally agree with you. The Iraq war is an unjust war and McCain needs to shut up about his stupid bracelet.

Posted by: chattyway | September 29, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Of course he should wear it. Gotcha John, I too have a bracelet. So don’t use that “sentimental” gimmick again!
Mother is estatic. So, why the queation?

Posted by: Lou Garcia | September 29, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

To Haley:
“Greg, just because McCain faught in the war back in the 1600′s does not mean that he will make a good president.”
You are right, but it will make him qualified to be commander in chief, which is really what the office is about in the first place. Also this ancient war of which you speak is similar to our current situation in many respects, so his experience is highly relevant. The office of the president is an executive position. It is up to the congress to pass statutory law and present the president with a budget. He does not have the powers of emperator as you seem to indicate.
“If this is the case then are you saying anybody that soldier could make it as President?”
No, it does not mean that at all. There are many that spent a couple of yearas in the service that turned out to be dirtbags. But McCain spent over 20 years in the military rising to the rank of Captain (equivalent to a Colonel in the Army), and was a squadron commander which gave him valuable executive experience, something which Obama doesn’t have in any form.
“The war is just a small issue in this campaign.” Not really. It centers around the region from which we get most of our imported energy, which is crucial to the economy and world stability. Secondly, the entire muslim world is watching how we play our end-game in Iraq. If we don’t do it just right, we condemn the world to another generation of religiously fueled terror.
“The biggest issue is the economy which McCain knows absolutely nothing about.”
Really? So when he introduced legislation to institute regulations on an out of control lending market, and was blocked by none other than Barney Franks, he showed no knowledge of the coming economic doom? The real truth this current economic situation was created in the 1990′s by the Clinton administration and it’s policy to force lending institutions to “abandon” such criteria as credit history, income, and ability to repay loans when considering the mortgage applications of minority and low-income applicants. This policy continued into the new century and John McCain, as stated above, had attempted to rein in the dangerously overextended market but was defeated by Senate democrats.
“And congress supported the war because the reason they were told they were going to war, which later turned out to be a lie.”
Really? A bi-partisan committee report exonerated Bush and found no evidence that he in any way influenced the content of the intelligence reports, and even Hillary Clinton claimed to have seen the same intelligence at the time and fully supported President Bush. Furthermore this issue predates the Bush presidency. In 1998 numerous politicians, including Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, and several other high ranking democrats declared Saddam Hussein a threat, that he had WMD and had used them on numerous occasions, and that there was a legitimate concern that he might allow those weapons to fall into the hands of terrorists. This was all stated by then President, Bill Clinton.
Back to the bracelet issue, I don’t think McCain should have brought it up, but since he has seen war, been injured, tortured and seen his friends die, I’d say he has the right to speak about our fallen if he chooses. Obama just looked silly, just like he always does when he has to deviate from his script.

Posted by: Greg | September 30, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

Are you still having your bracelets war? Can’t believe it, the country is going down with a big bang, and you are still in this? Well, I guess similar discussions were held on the Titanic…we’ll never know because these folks are dead….

Posted by: California über alles | September 30, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am

Anybody who has intelligence can really afford Palin as VP or Potential POTUS?
How About the judgment of Maccain who pick this woman without serious consideration of this country?
I really don’t believe his slogan.
It should be changed into this.
Maccain First, Country Last.

Posted by: zen | September 30, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am

to chattyway…
Sorry to disappoint you, but you need to re-read my comments. I am CONDEMNING as absurd the implication that this is an unjust war. Quite the contrary, it is equally as justified as any war the US has fought since its inception as a nation.
The real question is why didn’t we start “regime change” on this continent, ie Mexico. It has an equally horrid record with regards to human rights as did the former regime in Iraq, and has a much more significant impact on the US economy.
The world is a better place for having removed Saddam and his sadistic offspring from the gene pool, so please tell me why this war was “unjust” compared to any other in recent history. Was it more “just” to allow the genocide in Rwanda with no action? Is it more “just” to allow FARC rebels in Columbia to kidnap Americans at will?
I’m really just dying to hear what you call a just war vs. an unjust one. By all means, please enlighten me.

Posted by: Greg | September 30, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am

The war in Iraq IS and always has been an unjust war. Saddam Hussein was accused of having weapons of mass destruction – which he did not have and SAID he did not have. He was accused of being allied with Osama Bin Laden and participating in some never mentioned way in the attack on 9/11, but he did not. Al Quaida wasn’t even IN Iraq before we shoved our unwanted guns and troops down Iraq’s throat. The 1991 war against Iraq – Desert Storm – WAS justified, because Iraq had invaded Kuwait and didn’t think we’d do anything about it. He was wrong, but then-president Bush was right in not going all the way to Baghdad and trying to depose him. We shouldn’t have done that; there’s no excuse for us to have done that; and President Bush lied to us about it. He lied again and got Congress to enact the Patriot Act. Now he’s trying to shove another “crisis” down our throats, and I hope Congress has enough sense to say “Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, try to fool me a third time, and you’ll get knocked back on your …. haunches.

Posted by: Kaelinda | September 30, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am

To be honest, I feel that there is information missing from this article that is not depicting a true picture of the whole event. Ex-husband, of course he is going to say she didn’t want this especially if they are two different sides of the fence. We as a country are now about information not who looks good. That was the old way, let’s continue on in the 20th Century.
Sandra

Posted by: Sandra | September 30, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Greg,
I’m tired of hearing about McCain’s service as a war hero. What kind of hero is he to our veterans now? He votes against any kind of bill which benefits vets, medical, education, you name it-McCain is against it. There are just as many people out there who believe that the war in Iraq was unjust..it started with a lie and has killed over 4000 Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraq citizens, and cost this counrty billions. It’s not honorable, it’s not just, it’s tragic. McCain pulls the “war hero” jargon out when he doesn’t have anything else to say—it’s a political talking point with him. More frightening–McCain has anger issues, that may be a result of his war history. I think we should have the right to examine his medical records to see what pyschological affect the war had on McCain.

Posted by: Intelligent voter | September 30, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

Concerned in Ohio….why don’t you read everything before you comment? The Mother of the soldier said she was estatic that Obama brought up the bracelet during the debate. And, there are two sides to every war, and Obama was pointing that out, after McCain played the “hero” card again.

Posted by: Intelligent voter | September 30, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am

The new President should wear every single day a new bracelet of a fallen soldier so he is reminded every single day that war is the very last option a country should take to settle political differences.

Posted by: Ferrumequus | September 30, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am

So Obama was so touched by the fallen
soldier’s mother, he had to look down
to read the name of her son during a debate on foreign policy. Since everyone knows McCain wear a bracelet, the topic was bound to arise. His handlers should do a better job of preparing his props because that is exactly how it looked to the voters in the 57 states watching tv during the great depression…

Posted by: libbylou | September 30, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Concerned in OH, WRONG!!!!!!! the mother asked Obama not to use it in his stump speeches and was honored when he came back at McCain but with a different twist, he told how the mother did not want other mothers to bare the burden of losing their child in the Iraq War.

Posted by: USCITIZEN_04 | September 30, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

To Intelligent Voter:
“Greg,
I’m tired of hearing about McCain’s service as a war hero. What kind of hero is he to our veterans now? He votes against any kind of bill which benefits vets, medical, education, you name it-McCain is against it.”
I agree he’s making too much of an issue of his service, although I still find it to be very important considering the situation we are in with regards to the ongoing war. To be honest as a Vet I have more benefits that I know what to do with, so I’m not sure what bills you are referring to. If you are indeed an intelligent voter (and judging by your previous posts, you seem to be just that), but you know as well as I do that as soon as a major bill comes along everyone in congress attachs nearly limitless add-ons and pork-barrel special appropriations to benefit a small group of their voters. It’s sad, but many major bills must be defeated not to stop the main bill, but all the attached pork. I fully admit I’m not well versed in every vote McCain has made, and if you can point me to a non-partisan appraisal of his voting record, I’d like to see it.
“There are just as many people out there who believe that the war in Iraq was unjust.”
I’m fully aware of that. America is fairly well divided over this issue. I respect your right to think it unjust, I just don’t see much evidence to support your opinion. I’m quite happy that a mass murderer on the scale of Stalin and Hitler is dead, his horrific regime is in ruins, and a formerly oppressed people now have a fighting chance at living a life instead of just surviving in the shadows of an evil regime. If you don’t think that’s worth fighting for, well then that is your opinion. I personally think it is worth the fight.
You talk about 4,000 casualties in 5 years of war, when we lost more men than that in a day on Tarawa, or in an hour at Shiloh. I don’t meant to reduce human lives to mere statistics, but the truth is more people have been murdered in Chicago in the past six months than have been killed in Baghdad.
“More frightening–McCain has anger issues, that may be a result of his war history. I think we should have the right to examine his medical records to see what pyschological affect the war had on McCain.”
We all have anger issues. It’s just a matter of degree. Not sure what you are referring to, but again if you have a credible source, please share the link.
In closing I’d like to say that none of this is personal, I think it’s important that we all talk about these issues and not bottle them up. So please do not take anything I have said as an insult, I just don’t agree with you.

Posted by: Greg | September 30, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Wah! I have a bracelet too, cried Nobama……in the words of his equally unqualified running mate….. “Stand up chuck, let em see ya”.
Nobama is a dangerous and thuggish politician.
Nobama made some of the most profit from the Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae Scandal which has caused the economic disaster that we are paying for today, and apparently will be paying for, for a long time to come.
Democrats Covering up, blaming the regulator and outright lieing, defending their cash cow back in 2004, when McCain and other Republicans warned of this pending crisis.
Nobama,your hero and beneficiary of the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis of today………
Now….How do you NObama supporters and other Democrats defend this?…..You Cant!

Posted by: The Compass Blog | October 2, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Yes, Senator Obama is wearing a HeroBracelet in the name of SGT Jopek. The bracelet was presented to him by his mother.
I am with HeroBracelets and Senator McCain and President Bush have both been presented HeroBracelts by the mothers of fallen soldiers. Recently, other members of the Jopek family have ordered HeroBracelets to “read exactly like the bracelet Senator Obama is wearing.”
So, from my direct experience, this is a non-issue. In addition, this is from an AP news story:
“Tracy Jopek of Merrill told The Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that Obama remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb. Jopek criticized Internet reports suggesting Obama, D-Ill., exploited her son for political purposes.
“I don’t understand how people can take that and turn it into some garbage on the Internet,” she said.
Jopek acknowledged e-mailing the Obama campaign in February asking that the presidential candidate not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she said Obama’s mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee, said a soldier’s mother gave him a bracelet.”
Thousands are wearing HeroBracelets to honor the memories of soldiers and Marines they have never met and they do so out of respect.
HeroBracelets is a non-political organization that raises money through the bracelet sales for both the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund and the Military Order of The Purple Heart.

Posted by: chris greta | October 6, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

I am from Merrill, I went to school with Ryan and my family knows his. My brother-in-law just had a conversation with Ryan’s mom about this yesterday and she said (while giving him an Obama sign from the huge pile in her living room), that she was proud of Obama mentioning Ryan, and that Obama had called her to personally apologize if he had offended her, and she told him he had nothing to apologize for and that he had done well.

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Posted by: Bracelet | August 2, 2010, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

McSame, if he is honorable, should shoulder the burden of responsibility especially.it is an unjustified war, not just for the families here in the US

Posted by: mbt shoes | September 26, 2010, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

McSame was trying to make “hay” out of the death of one soldier in an unwarranted war by pointing out his bracelet! So what? Obama is correct in pointing out that he too, in owning a bracelet, knows the pain of families who have suffered because of the war. McSame does not own the “war” but he should hold responsibility for the deaths because it is an unjustified war, not just for the families here in the US, but also for the families of all the people, whether from Iraq or the coalition as forces. McSame, if he is honorable, should shoulder the burden of responsibility especially since he declared that he will stay for another 100 years.

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