Dem: Not Having Abortion Is Palin’s ‘Primary Qualification’

it was the south carolina delegate that laughed at the Hurricane hitting Lousiana also. What kind of constituents , what kind of people do they represent. I alway thought of south carolina as a decent state to vacation and travel , apparently not. They laugh at other peoples destruction and belittle women.

She is wrong and she should not have said it.
Having said that, I still can’t find ONE qualification for Palin to be VP.

Someone needs to keep the dems away from all microphones, particularly Obama. When not on a teleprompter, he sounds like a bombing comedian about to get booed off stage. Not very presidential.

No longer a democrat.

Moslems and Democrats are just alike.
They both kill babies.
Moslems blow their up.
Democrats abort theirs.

Why is ABC reporting on what this guy says? Makes no sense to what his opinion is more than anybody else’s. BTW: When are we going to hear how that fraud case is going against Biden’s son???

No longer a Republican.

Classy. Not really. That was as low class a comment as could be uttered by a public servant.
I hope that the citizens of SC take note.

It was a very ill-concieved choice of wording.
The fact is that Palin’s only qualification (by the standards of experience set by McCain up until a few weeks ago) is that she is palatable to the religious right.
I’ve become disenchanted by this election cycle.
It’s all about diversions.
There Will Be Backlash.
First the Hail Mary” – “Trust us – you’ll like her.”
Too much deceit, and now attacks about an unfortunate (but true) choice of words, and the mindless spinning about “lipstick on a pig,” and hourly Rove style childishness.

Wow, call me crazy here, but I think it’s kinda foolish for people to bring up the experience issue and equate it with Gov. Palin. Let’s face it folks, she’s the only one of the four Pres\VP candidates that has ANY executive experience whatsoever. Taking that and equating it to both parties recent candidates over the past 10-15 years, I’d say she was more than qualified to lead.

ron;
You sir, are ‘Uppity’.
The last time I checked Webster’s Dictionary, it is a standard word within the English vernacular.
While you are at it, look up the word ‘vernacular’. I spelled it out for you.
So much for the Democratic ‘Great Society’ education policies that have so failed the American Public at the taxpayer’s expense.
Your ‘Ebonics’ be damned…

We have lost all dignity here. First of all, this democractic official should have known better. This was totally a low blow.
Second, to the democratic women who feel Sarah Palin is putting her career over her famly, you are the party that says there are no limitations, remember?
Second, why do you seem to feel that Sarah’s youngest wouldn’t receive better medical care as a VP’s child than he would in the far north of Alaska? really, come on now.

Don’t minimize Palin by demeaning her because she is pro-life. These new polls have me (a life time democrat) completely thrilled. Cheaters never prosper, Barack. Don’t be expecting Hillary to do your misogynistic dirty work against Palin for you either.
To think,Barack, you could have had the most experienced, gracious, intelligent, tough female running mate by your side; but, alas, your big fat arrogant ego just couldn’t take it.
I’m really gonna dig it when that younger, more attractive hocky mom sends you and your pompous DNC (which, by the way, stands for Does Not Connect) to political H-E-double hocky sticks!!!!
Barack Obama, you’re one arrogant piece of work.

The evidence is mounting and the impact is clear. Obama is using carefully crafted tactics aimed at influencing the misogynistic wing of the Democratic Party in hopes of corralling all their votes. I predict he will be highly successful. Way to go Obama!

I,m calling for Ms. Fowler to reasign as chair of the DNC for S.C.effective immeadiatly. This woman has no place in the national debate. Period.

The lacking of character among the democratic politicians are forcing democrats to vote for republicans.
McCain has the gut to take on his own party when they are wrong! Palin did the same thing. That shows their character!

The McCain Campaign uses these hate lobbyist against Obama. These shameful people haveworked with the following companies. Lets stop supporting them ASAP until they denounce McCain. Let’s stick together and ban these businesses: Google, Verizon, US Airways, Dell, Fannie Mae, General Motors,United Technologies, Hewlett Packard, Exxon and Land of Lakes. And If McCain wins lets still boycott these companies for four years and FOX news.

i can’t find one achievement of the great black dope’s, one personal tie, one family story that would make me vote for him.
further, he releases the usual attack maggots, then claims no ties to them.
this manchild is too much of a personally flawed immature candidate to be potus

dear kim,
don’t forget your lunch when you get on the short yellow bus tomorrow.

Amending my last post:
‘Take for example John McCain’s opposition to the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.
http://www.slate.com/id/2189983/

let’s just be real here, Obama has a serious “lack of judgement” with his personal associations and his poor choice of words. He has a pen full pigs with lipstick on.

McCain said the same lipstick on the pig comment about Clinton’s healthcare plan in 1993, it’s been said before. It’s a saying that has been used for years. Also, Obama has already said it a few years ago about the Iraq War. That’s why that fake outrage McCain tried to use isn’t sticking. Try something else. Obama/Biden 2008!

So she should have just aborted that retard??? Right, nice one from a democrat… Great way to lose an election.

Why are there still people comparing McCain’s lipstick comment with Obama’s?
There’s no comparison!
Gov. Palin just said the lipstick phrase in her great speech several days ago. Obama is either extremely ignorant or arrogant to give such comment. In context, he was clearly attacking Gov. Palin. The pause, the audience laughing… Obama even admitted to Letterman he had Palin in mind while saying that comment! But this clever boy now is saying he was refering her to the lipstick.
Obama is desperate and way too low!

By the way Carol Fowler is the wife of Former DNC Chairman Don Fowler who also cough on video tape saying to while talking to Congressman John Spratt of SC, and you could of hear that Spratt “chuckles” along with: “The hurricane?s going to hit New Orleans about the time they start?. The timing is, at least it appears now, that it?ll be there Monday. That just demonstrates God?s on our side.” And again the same lame apology “If I offended anybody…. I am sorry” Always look for “IF”.

Matt Damon or whatever from the Bourn Extreme just showed himself to be the same kind of moron …….He’s a moron?????? Please tell me ONE example of what he said not being true???? He was RIGHT! Spot on accurate assessment. It is an absolute disgrace that a hollywood writer/actor is better able to assess a critical situation than our republican candidate for president, yes, I agree. But Matt Damon’s two minute assessment and concerns are SPOT on accurate. President Palin is a SCARY thought. Republicans are acting horrendously irresponsible going along with this ridiculous possibility.

By the way Carol Fowler is the wife of Former DNC Chairman Don Fowler who also cough on video tape saying to while talking to Congressman John Spratt of SC, and you could of hear that Spratt “chuckles” along with: “The hurricane?s going to hit New Orleans about the time they start?. The timing is, at least it appears now, that it?ll be there Monday. That just demonstrates God?s on our side.” And again the same lame apology “If I offended anybody…. I am sorry” Always look for “IF”.

This is clearly 1) sexism, 2) callous, total disregard to value of life, 3) remark that unfitting of a leader. Unfortunately, this election season these kind of people are running amok.

Most Democrats seem to be obsessed with abortion….excuse me????? WHO just put an uneducated person on their because of her anti abortion stance. There is not ONE logical reason why she would be chosen over far more experienced more respected republicans other than that they were possibly not anti abortion enough. Democrats have a graduate from Columbia University, Harvard and president of the Harvard law Review, state senator for 7 years and US senator for 2 years on the ticket who has absolutely fabulous ideas onthe economy, creating a renewable energy industry and education among a few on our ticket. We pick candidate who show enormous promise and have fabulous ideas that will fix problems. You people chose someone based on abortion and only abortion and because of it you are going to drive this country into the fastest downward spiral we have ever seen since the great Depression.

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Matt has taken the Obamma Kool Aid. Just how is someone who can’t decide how to vote 140 times, who votes “PRESENT”, going to know enough to get us some lower priced gas?
He is a moron leading morons.
Palin – 08

Let me borrow Fowler’s line and use it on Obama:
Obama’s “primary qualification” for the presidency is that he is black.
How does that sound? I am sure nobody should feel offended.
And I am an independent.

Excellent arguments on this blog. I’m going to vote for Obama but it will not bother me if McCain wins. I’m voting for Obama for Supreme Court appointees. If McCain wins lets hope that any of the Supremes wait four years for Hillary’s run, before they retire.

McCAIN IS REALLY COUNTING ON WOMEN TO BE IDIOTS … WHY ELSE WOULD HE WAIT SO LONG TO PICK SARAH PALIN? …”Duh”…NO ONE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT HER OR ALASKA … ANY REAL WOMAN WOULD TELL McCAIN TO SHOVE HIS VP PICK UP HIS A$$ … ONLY A REAL IDIOT WOULD BELEAVE THAT SHE CAN GO TO WASHINGTON D.C. AND SHAKE THINGS UP … CERTAINLY A “HOCKEY MOM” CAN RIGHT? … IF YOU BELEAVE THAT, COME AND BUY THIS BRIDGE IN NEW YORK THAT I HAVE FOR SELL …

Palin…Bush in a bra and panties….ok, that’s a bit rude. YOu dont know that bush never wore a bra and panties. AND while bush hardly went to class, Palin has essentially NO education. She is WORSEthan Bush. so you get all the bad stuff, the arrogance of thinking you ahve all the answers when you are well of ingornance, the wacko ideas that the earth is 4000 years old and the end of the world is a good thing, BUT you have NO CHANCE that she owuld have EVER heard the slightest converation on economics, finance, banking, trade laws, world history……

Obama’s “primary qualification” for the presidency is that he is black…..if someone votes for him only because he’s black then that is true, and if he won, that would be true. However, if he won we luckily would have the president of the Harvard law Review as our presidetn. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard. A sate senator for 7 years and US senator for 2. WE would have a person who has FANTASTIC ideas about growing a renewable engery economy and cutting our deficit very sharply and funding more college grads so we can compete with India, Russia and china in this global economy. We would not only have a VERY level headed intelligent person to deal with wacko world leaders, we would also have Joe Biden who served on the foreign relations committe and has a thorough knowledge of world politics, histories and cultures. So though you voted f or him ‘because he’s black’ you get a stellar leader for the country. If you vote for Palin because she’s anti abortin, what you get an uneducated president Palin who has nothing, nothing, nothing and wil not know how to deal with onesingle issue and the damage she could do is absolutely frightening. Can you imagine president Palin trying to figure out what to do with the fannie mae crises and how to ru n them or whther or not to acquire more large financial institutions that are failing and threaten plunging the economy into depression??? how irresponsible cna you possibly be????

Republicans need to buck up, get past their inferiority complexes and their pettiness and see the absolute danger in a president Palin. They need to stop the games and think of what is best for this nation. A president Palin in charge of regulatin banking, relations with Putin is purely frightning.

Ironically, not having an abortion is probably Obama’s only qualification.

Palin is a Governor of a State….She has no education. She knows nothing about finance, or world politics or world history or tax codes or finance. How will she know how to decide on regulating the large financial industries that keep collapsing requiring taxpayers to bai l them out? how will she decide on what to do about the liquidity of the millions of shareholders and how the ripple effects wil also effect the economy? Her state is easier run than most large cities and when she ran it she went horrifically over budget and needed a lobbyist to get her moneyto pay for her overspending. She knoew nothign and did nothingabout healthcare. How is she supposed to run medicaid, medicare and the manage the portfolios of a system that will soon run out of money yet need to payout to the millions of babyboomers who will soon be eligible. She is HORRENDOUSLY unqualified in experience AND she has NO education to fall back on either. Between Biden and Obama they have both Stellar educational backrounds in all these areas as well as experience. Obama was state senator for 7 years, he was president of the harvard law review and has a very well rounded education at harvard adn columbia university in all these areas. the Obama Biden pair is HIGHLY skilled and ready for those challeges. President Palin IS irresponsible to dangerous. absolutely absurd. I notice you spent alot of time insulting Damon yet you didn’t have ONE exampe of how he was wrong. He wasn’t. He was spot on accurate nad you know it. You are an irresponsible AMericna if you every made a President Palin possible.

I laughed at the Damon commentary for about a nanosecond, and then realized, Oh My God! this is true! not funny. not funny at all. ANyone who votes for a possible President Palin is antiamerican. Surely, no matter how m uch you want a ‘folksy’ president, surely even republicans must have the common sense to see how dangerous this is. For all the jokes about republicans being stupid, I do not believe in my heart of hearts they are really THAT stupid. Maybe they’ll defend her for now, but when the time comes, when they are in the ballot box, I think they’ll curse a nd be angry but I don’t think they will actually make a President Palin possible. I dont think they are THAT bad.

Gov. Palin has more executive experience than the dem ticket combined. She took on her own party when they are wrong. She had real responsibility and got real things done under her administration. She is the most popular governor in America! Matt Damon is ignorant. Gov. Palin is much more qualified than those who attacked her so shamelessly.

Arturo Sclerosis,
“military dictatorship”? Are you an American? You have this kind of freedom of speech because the men and women on the front are fighting for it! Because the Bush Administration is keeping this country safe and protecting it! You have all the right to dislike your government because this is a FREE country, for which the enemies hate us!!!

i am ashamed to be a democrat.that is way over the line.these “just words” are really demeaning.

Where is Liberal House speaker Pelosi Obama’s friend screaming resign when their
own DNC(Do Nothing Congress) makes a despicable comment. This Democratic Party doesn’t value life
they call the unborn child a mistake and just a tissue to toss in the waste bin.

Where is Liberal House speaker Pelosi Obama’s friend screaming resign when their
own DNC(Do Nothing Congress) makes a despicable comment. This Democrat Party doesn’t value life
they call the unborn child a mistake and just a tissue to toss in the waste bin.

How sad the media stoops so low about Palin and her family…not only do they and dems have no class, they are just idiots…if all of you liberals hate America so bad…then get the heck out of our country and live in a third world country where you belong.

” palin is a sitting governor” Mostly of moose

God forbid president Putin says she reminds him of lipstick on a pig. She’ll be in the little girls’ room crying.

think McCain/Palin just won….huh? what part of the statement is inaccurate? was she put on the ticket primarily because she is anti aboriton? yes or no? …..good point.

God forbid president Putin says she reminds him of lipstick on a pig. She’ll be in the little girls’ room crying……………Even worse..she’ll be in the little girls room crying saying “That big mean man, what is his name? He just said…”…..She’ll hear that he invaded Georgia again and she’ll say “why would he invade the peach state?” …and someone will mention that it’s a disputed province and she’ll say “a disreputed what??? Does this have anything to do with bootlegging? because in Alaska one of our big problems was bootlegging and illegally hunting moose.”

Because the Bush Administration is keeping this country safe and protecting it… you know what, ANY president will do that. Bush had a memo that told him he should have had no fly lists and luggage being scanned a month before the attacks. I agree, the only reason 9/11 happened is because bush was NOT doing his job. So now, he is doing that part of his job. Why does he deserve anything special for this? I don’t get rewarded for not screwing up on my job, it’s EXPECTED That i don’t fail collosally on my job. Why do republicans have such LOW expectations??? I’m s ure whoever takes the next presidency will read their messages.

I have never been as disgusted as I am with Carol Fowler . Talk about a pig in lipstick. And as for Nobama, he is fortunately sinking faster than the titanic. I guess with all of the idiocy being spewed forth we can count on hearing from Reverand Wright soon. Oh, and let’s not forget about Tony Rezko. That could be an interesting October Surprise. Like a slimeball such as that will sit in prison to protect Nobama. Good grief the dems are dumber than a box of rocks for picking that as their candidate. No wonder congress has such a low performance rating.

EVER been accused of having their major qualification to be no prior abortions?….Dear Lord you people are stupid. The primary qualification that she is anti abortion!!!! Get it????? She is saying that republicans picked her because her primary qualification is that she is anti abortion!! republicans just LOVE that she didn’t abort the baby. Ya know what, I think it’s great she didn’teither but that does NOT qualify her to be a possible president!!! But, well, i’m a republican. If I was, that alone would be good enough for me to vote for her.Get it?

This is a matter of the GOP getting swept up in a bunch of hype that is self created…..No. This is a matter of the GOP putting their grab on power before what is good for the country. Do you honestly believe that McCain thinks this uneducated person is the best person to succeed him if he dies???? Of ALL the republicans??? Clearly not. But he DID NOT put country first, he put his ability to grab power. He KNOWS wingnuts will come out in droves for one issue and one issue only – abortion. Pick ANYONE who is rabidly anitabortion and they will come no matter how unqualified or uneducated. and how true did that prediction pan out to be?

Ya know, if I’m in a fox hole, with some fancy weapon I am not familiar with andthere is enemy fire coming at me, I do NOT want a guy like me inthere. I want someone who knows more than me. I look at Palin and I have a business degree, now I do sales and forecasting and I think ,I could run Alaska. yup, I could. but when I see these banks failing and i listen to the wallstreet reports I know that i would have no idea what to do about that if I was dropped into that as my job. So I look at this women and I think, she is a journalism major, I actually know more about that stuff than her, do I feel comfortable with her taking control of things I would not be comfortable doing. F*ck no! This is f*cking insane. I can’t vote for McCain wiht this person as his second. what the hell was he thinking? Is it too late to lose this women?

If you look at McCains stand on the economy and Iraq, he is self defeating! He wants to grow the economy, but doesn’t know how to do so. That’s because he doesn’t care about the middle class. He and Palin are above the middle class and couldn’t care less if the middle class improved over the nest 4 to 8 years. He just does not CARE!!!!!

those that thay would hope would connect with an uneducated woman with an unwed teenage pregnant child. If you side with her, then they have won….you gotta ask, if their son had to have open heart surgery, would they look for someone who was ‘folksy’ and uneducated or would they looking for the Harvard Med school grad who was top if his class? Do you think ironing out this mess of yet another huge financial loaning institution is going to be easy??? These guys need to be regulated. It’s bad enough McCain probablywont know how to do it but this women would honestly be worse than me doing it. I CAN relate to her. and that’s what f*cking horrifies me.

you are 100% right and I don’t want to hear you apologizing to this stupid republicans.

“I can’t vote for McCain wiht this person as his second. what the hell was he thinking? Is it too late to lose this women? ”
Barry has less experience than Palin, and he’s running for President, genius.

“I really don’t understand you Americans or your rather absurd political system. ”
Then don’t comment on something that you don’t understand.

“Barry has less experience than Palin”…. ????? Palin is uneducated, first problem. BIG problem. She was a mayor of a really really small town, She is governor for less than two years of a state that has more moose than people and their biggest problem is bootlegging and illegal hunting. WTF makes you think this i s more experience to handle Lehman going belly up and the decisions about the economy than a guy who graduated from Columbia University and Harvard and was president o fthe Harvard Law Review, has 7 years of state senate experience and 2 as united states senator. Obama has MUCH more background in finance, law, and education in history, world politics, constitutional law, issuing of stock, diluting of stock and the ripple effects in the stock market, dividens, hostile takeovers..etc. She has none. None. No education. The idea of her being in charge of such complicated matter that she has NEVER been anywhere near is horrifying. absolutely horrifying. If McCain put counry first, he would have put someone behind him who could run it. Shame on McCain.

If you needed brain surgery, wouldn’t you want someone who had done it before?….What ‘brain surgery’ has Palin done??? Has she EVER had any experience in foreign relations? Obama had 200,000 Germans chanting his name, he had the french president gushing over him and he just had a representative of TOny blair’s government practically endoring him to the point, per the BBC, where McCain called and complained yet Blaire did NOT retract the statement. What experience does she has in regulating financial markets, what educational background does she have in finance, economics, stocks, investments, bank regulation??? does she have any??? no. Barak has extensive educational background in all these areas and 7 years in the state senate and 2 as united states senator. IF you are looking for a brain surgeon, would you look for someone who went to medical school???? woudl you look for a folksy gal, or would you look for the guy who graduated from Harvard Medical school??? let’s get real. You can’t possibly have experience in all the areas that may come up while being president of the united states, but just as any doctor or engineer, what you fall back on then is your education, and palin has none. No safety net of knowledge and with her crashed the country.

That’s what I said…and it is incredulous to me that someone could be that wrong and that obtuse to thier own ignornance. Palin has NO financial or economic experience in stocks, wallstreet, econmic incentives, healthcare, finance, foreign affairs, world history, world cultures and no educational background in any of those areas as well. she has no safety net of knowledge to fall back on. She overspent her budget and sheopned a pipeline, period. She did not do a single thing, besides hire a lobbiest to get money and then lie about it at the convention. If it’s not about bootlegging or pipelines she actually has ZERO experience AND is uneducated to boot. HOw is that even midly comparable to a columbia university and harvard graduate who waspresident ofthe harvard law review??? I’m SURE Obama could run alaska. Do you think for a moment she could be president of the Harvard Law REview???? She has no education in constitutional law. She could not even do the job he did in COLLEGE.

Throwing a concert ….every political event the past 50 years has a concert, but how many have had 200,000 foreigners chanting the politicians name. Obama filled a stadium for his convention. Like it or not, he LEADS people. while McCain has no support, and Palin is a curiosity and a polarizing figure, Obama LEADS people. I notice yo udidn’t mention how the leaders of england and france also are very highly favorable toward him. if you have a patriotic bone in your body you would understand how GOOD it would be to have a president with as much as good will as Obama gets from the world. Not only are your posts inaccurate, I find them completely disingenous. I think you know i am right, in your heart of hearts. If you vote for Mccain and possible president palin you are being horrendously irresponsible. I’m sure every person who supports her is well aware how dangerous a President Palin would be. You are putting party before country. shame on you. good night.

“I’m SURE Obama could run alaska. Do you think for a moment she could be president of the Harvard Law REview???? She has no education in constitutional law. She could not even do the job he did in COLLEGE”. …holy crap! good point! I’m off to bed too. Interesting final thought, though.

‘I’m SURE Obama could run alaska. ”
Maybe he can. If he did, then we would see if he could actually deliver and not just talk about delivering. Soaring rhetoric doesn’t make a leader. Just look at his speech buddy Deval.

Shes the antichrist. Please people, dont vote for the beast!

Hate to break it to you, but when 80% of France says they’d vote for you it’s not a good thing. I’m quite certain that if given the opportunity, 100% of Al Qaeda would vote for him (that’s bad too).
At least France has is showing some signs of self defense. They’ve developed a new tank with 5 gears. Four reverse and one forward (in case they come from behind).

OBAMA SUPPORTERS READ AND PASS ON. POST EVERYWHERE…
GREAT ARTICLE ABOUT THE NUMBERS:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/palin_doesnt_matter_numbers_do.html

Conversely, does that mean that only females who have had an abortion vote Democtrat?
WOW… so much for the party of choice. Unless you choose our way, you are not a real woman. Is that it?

Ms Fowler, this disgusting witch, is the wife of Don Fowler, the former chair of the DNC, who said that Gustav occuring during the RNC meant that God was on their side. Never mind the lives that were lost, and the billions of dollars of damage, and homes lost.
Anything for the good of Obama, right?
The DNC has gone down the way of garbage, trash, and slime, sinking fast, with Obama the liar fraud at the hhelm. Are you going to sink with this disgusting ship? Even rats have sense enough to jump off a sinking ship.

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http://www.stupidsheeple.com/index.php/2008090140/latest/bristol-palin-gone-wild.html

McSame’s character isn’t much to write home about. I don’t think much of man who shacks up with a rich bimbo while still married to the first wife who was disfigured in an auto accident. Oh I get it, it’s different because he is a republican.

I’m way past pro-choice, I am pro-abortion (there are alot of women who should never be having kids—i.e. drug addicts), but overall I like Palin’s record and I can’t stand how Obama has been trying to cheat his way thru the election.

Praise God that Matt Damon is infusing some logic into the national dialogue regarding the nation’s fawning over Barbie-doll Sarah Palin. (Yes, there’s actually a Palin Barbie-doll now.) Though she finished second in the Miss Alaska contest, polls show that she is captivating a salivating male audience across the nation. Males (more than females)are flocking to the pro-life, gun-totting, moose-hunting, painfully simple, political novice. No surprise there!

For Matt M —
“If you needed brain surgery, wouldn’t you want someone who had done it before?….What ‘brain surgery’ has Palin done??? Has she EVER had any experience in foreign relations?”
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She has run a business. She has run a city. She has run a state. She has commanded the Alaska National Guard. She has cooperated with both Canada and Russia on a range of issues. Neither Senator Obama nor Senator Biden have ever done any of those things, and we have no reason to assume either of them would do well in their first shot at holding an executive position. (So to answer Matt M’s question: yes, I would want someone who had done it before, and Sarah Palin fits that bill.)
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In marked contrast to the two wannabes on the Democrat side, Governor Palin has performed remarkably well in each of the executive positions she has held in her career of public service, given that she has repeatedly beaten incumbents, and her approval rating is 80% or better among her constituents. (Matt M may wish the world accorded his opinion greater weight than all those Alaskans, but it doesn’t work that way.) Sarah Palin has done all of the above, Matt M seems to need to be reminded, while she was having and raising five kids and apparently making her marriage work just fine, thank you very much.
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“Obama had 200,000 Germans chanting his name, he had the french president gushing over him and he just had a representative of TOny blair’s government practically endoring him to the point, per the BBC, where McCain called and complained yet Blaire did NOT retract the statement.”
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Please allow me to quickly concede the correctness and even brilliance of Matt M’s point that United States Senator Barack Obama should actually be running for President of Europe. Bonne chance. Bon voyage.
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“What experience does she has in regulating financial markets, what educational background does she have in finance, economics, stocks, investments, bank regulation??? does she have any??? no. Barak has extensive educational background in all these areas and 7 years in the state senate and 2 as united states senator. IF you are looking for a brain surgeon, would you look for someone who went to medical school???? woudl you look for a folksy gal, or would you look for the guy who graduated from Harvard Medical school??? let’s get real. You can’t possibly have experience in all the areas that may come up while being president of the united states, but just as any doctor or engineer, what you fall back on then is your education, and palin has none. No safety net of knowledge and with her crashed the country.”
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What experience does he have in regulating financial markets as an executive? Good question. While Matt M is desperately attempting to come up with a reply that does not involve having to confess that the truth involves the number zero, perhaps he would be so kind as to explain the precise role of the POTUS in regulating financial markets, versus the role of the Treasury, the FTC, the Federal Reserve, and Congress,
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What educational background does Senator Obama have in finance, economics, stocks, investments, bank regulation??? Does he have any??? No — or at least, not much, if anything, that is on the public record, that I could find. Contracts? Yes. Constitutional law? Definitely.
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On the other hand, Governor Palin has actually exercised her veto pen and other authority to save great, green gobs of money for Alaska taxpayersl. They seem so upset about it that she has that gaudy 80% approval rating racked up already. Perhaps that has something to do with the fact that unlike some politicians, she did not seek to expand the powers of the government, but instead sent the savings back to the people in at least one, major instance.
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Were I to look for a brain surgeon, I surely would not look in the Illinois State Senate, nor would I look in the United States Senate. I would care not in the least whether it was a man or a woman, nor whether or not my prospective surgeon was ”folksy.” I would, however, care a great deal that she or he had gone to medical school and not law school, and performed such operations before.
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Okay, let’s get real, as Matt M insists. Senator Barack Obama has no “extensive educational background in all these areas.” During his first two years at Occidental College in Los Angeles, young Barry, as he was known at first, studied literature, arts, philosophy and social science — http://www.oxy.edu/x7025.xml — where, he said — http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct_archive/jan05/cover.php — “…he was still goofing off for the first two years of college.” He picked up his undergraduate degree in poli sci with a minor in international relations after he transferred to Columbia. He then went on to get his law degree at Harvard. That is not an “extensive educational background in all these areas,” no matter how Matt M may wish it were.
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Let’s see: Matt M mentioned “foreign relations.” Senator Obama has no real experience in foreign relations as a practitioner. Senator McCain has lots, having met with many heads of state over a period of decades. Governor Palin, though, does have actual experience as a legitimate practitioner in foreign relations due to her having been Governor of Alaska, in which capacity she is the only Governor in the United States whose state shares an international border with two countries. Matt M and all too many others here appear to abysmally fail to comprehend that Senator Obama has no executive experience, yet that is exactly the sort of theater in which such people so recklessly wish to see him operate. Last, we should note in addition that Sarah Palin earned a college degree. That does not translate to, “[n]o safety net of knowledge.”

This is how I see it:
Palin actually does things
Obama talks about them
This Democrat can’t wait to vote for McCain in November!

7 supreme court justices, 5 Republican with 2 democrats voted infavor of taking away the state of Texas right to arrest women having abortions. It was one Democrat and one Republican who voted Not to take away Texas right to arrest women having abortions. The Vote of Roe Vs Wade was soley on A states right to arrest women having abortions. But the Republicans changed it’s meaning through the years and changed it into the abortion itself to be legal. yet the vote was about a states right to make it’s own decision. You want to change the law. You have to get the States right back through the same court system. Little tid bits of amendments do nothing to change a supreme court decision. If it did, bush would have been out of the white house a long time ago.

Mccain and his party are very crafty. they play double standards. they play dirth and nasty but when they get the heat they start firing complains for Obama to act. Has Mccain spoken acted against any foolishness of his party?

Why is Matt D. concerned about Palin’s foreign policy experience and not about Obama’s? Obama is running for President, Palin is running for Vice-President. Obama has NADA, ZIL, ZERO foreign policy experience. Matt D. should shut his mouth and be more concerned with Obama’s INEXPERIENCE IN FOREIGN POLICY than Palin’s. Maybe, Matt D. thinks Obama’s last trip around several countries where he was treated like A MOVIE STAR qualifies Obama for FOREIGN POLICY. If that is true, then Matt D. should run for President of the USA too. He has plenty of MOVIE STAR TREATMENTS in many foreign countries.

Hey Mack: You think you’re a real jock. Nobody understands the corrupt, phony, two year long American election. Just so you know, As Australa, England, Germany and France among others are in the can in Afganistan for you on the front lines, maybe we should all pressure our governments to pull out. We don’t get any thanks from the likes of you when our soldiers die. In fact, many of you are too ignorant to know we’re even there. You don’t like us giving an opinion, tell your politicians to STOP saying that they are going to make a better place for America and the world – not that we believe them. You are a sorry lot.

I was stationed at a remote U.S. Air Force, radar station deep in the Alaska, wildernest a few years back and I remember kissing a MOOSE..And she was the spitting image of Sarah..They could be twin sisters, except my moose was a little thinner. They tend to put on a alot of weight in rutting season..As I recall her lipstick was frozen. Heck of a kisser loved to get deep throat. An Air Force Master Sergeant.

Republicans seem very fond of holding up Sarah Palin’s picture with one hand.

The democrats keep stepping in it.

It is shameful that Carol Fowler actually said this, but what is beyond the pale is that she probably actually believes it. That is why Carol Fowler will always be groveling for NARAL money while the Sarah Palin is taking the political world by storm. Some people will believe anything you tell them for a chunk of special interest money. Enjoy the cash, Carol. I hope you think it was worth it.

Why is Matt D. concerned about Palin’s foreign policy experience and not about Obama’s….in the short trip Obama made to other nations we saw foriegn leaders gush overhim. On the BBC yesterday was a report that a senior Blair official gave a glowing review of Obama yet did not say a single word about McCain. A McCain representative complained. The french president said he would be ‘delighted” if Obama was president and 200,000 germans were chanting Obama’s. If Obama needs help from Europe he has presidents of european countries who are 100% behind him ALREADY on our side. That is GREAT for the US AND unlike McCAin, Obama picked a VP who help round out his resume with over a decade on the foreign relations committee. Biden is well skilled and educated in foreign powers, their leaders, their histories and their cultures.

4real: Interesting comment: I guess it is just like Obama is popular because he is black but sounds white. I mean what other earthly qualification does he have other than eating arugula with the French president?

Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review, 7 years as a state senator, 2 years as a US senator, graduate of Columbia University and Harvard. While i’m SURE Obama could be governor of a state that has less people than most big cities, do you think Palin has enough knowledge to be president of the Harvard Law Review???? no. not even close. She can’t do a job Obama did in COLLEGE. FAct is, nobody has the experience of being a president of the US except the president of the US and what you fall back on then is your education and she has none. She may very well be president and she no knowledge and nobody to fall back on (Biden has over adecade on the foreign relations committee) and we have huge businesses that need oversight a nd regulation decisions to be made on liquidity events of those the government has already bailed out or acquired. It is dangerous and irresponsible what republicans havedone prioritizing abortion over the safety and wellbeing of our country.

Paul, nearly every republican president’s wife has been prochoice. Do you think Laura Bush got an abortion. Reasonable people think that forcing a girl to developoe a baby against her will is wrong.

Today we reached the seven year mark in US without a major terriort attach on the US…..I’m an engineer and I haven’t killed anyone in any of the planes I help design. Should I get a medal f or not screwing up. Oh yeah, it’s my job not to screw up. The only reason 9/11 happened is because of neglect. We had every bit of intelligence for it not to happen. So gee, after 3000+ of his citizens were killed bush decided to do his job in that area. I am so sick of republicans being so amazed with this. ANY future president will do their job when it comes to reading their freakn intelligence memos.

Fowler’s comment was extremely offensive to Gov. Palin and the rest of the common-sense citizens. But, her excuse is even worse, and shallow-minded…. are her constituents really that stupid? The DNC may yet bring in Hillary after Biden’s yesterday’s comment….. but it was Michelle that objected to her selection in the first place. Any way you look at it, racism and sexism rule this election process. Worse yet, the abortion crowd hate Gov. Palin for being pro-life and conservative… they wanted the first woman in the high offices to be liberal.

they wanted the first woman in the high offices to be liberal….I disagree. They wanted the first president to be educated and competent. I laughed at Damons comments for a second until I realized what he was saying was truth. PUtting an uneducated inexperienced person in the position of VP is worse than putting her up there as president becuase if McCAin dies, it’s President Palin, all alone. Putting this uneducated inexperienced women in the position of being in charge or the most powerful country, biggest economy and largest armed forces in the world is wreckless and irresponsible.

Unqaulified, religious extremist, scandal-ridden liar. Sarah Palin, the change we need!
I”m John McBush, and approve of this message, and your forgeting about the last eight years, please give us another chance.

For the one issue Christiasn Conservatives thats all a candidates must profess to be anti-abortion, then that person could be Jack the Ripper otherwise and they would not care.

One issue Palin ther bridge to nowhere with McCain trying to cross the bridge.

Where is the outrage over such a statement? Where are the demands that she resign? Where is the self-righteous indignation? Where are the women’s groups crying foul over such a sexist statement (by a woman)? Why is it that only liberal democrats deserve such a response over such a despicable statement?

Where are the women’s groups crying foul over such a sexist statement (by a woman)?…I dont understand your indignation. She is saying that republicans picked her primarily becuase she is anti abortion. She has been governor for less than two years, and she didn’t stand up to anyone. She lies. There has had to be not one but two stories about how she lied about herself at the convention. She has nothign. no experience, no education and she is the most extreme form of christianity there is which is exceedingly scary. She WAS picked because she is anti abortion. it was political pandering. If McCAin TRULY put country first he would have put someone on the ticket who could run it in the event of his demise. Listen to matt d’s comments. HE is spot on accurate. PUtting this person on hte ticket was wreckless and irresponsible.

Palin has more experience than Obama…..not even close. He was president o f the harvard law review in college. He knows constitutional law, tax law, federal and international trade law THAT well. Does Palin??? no. She couldn’t even hold a job he had in COLLEGE. She has been governor of a state that has no issue concurrent with the United States ,that gets its revenue from oil well leases. She knows nothing about balancing a tight budget on tax revenues, she knows nothing about constitutional law, trade law, wallstreet, foreign affairs (biden was on the armed services committee and the foreign relations commitee) nor did she do a single thing about healthcare anda medicaid and medicare are going belly up soon and she doesn’t even have so much as a single course in college math. You NEED books smarts to do jobs that require you to understand very specific sets of rules, laws and equations. Obama is FAR more qualified.

Hey, lovemycountry….are you kidding!?Palin has more experience? I was a mid-level manager in a company that had more employees that the state of Alaska has people and controlled a budget of comparable size as Alaska’s state budget, but I’m NOT qualified to be VP or President, because of my exective experience, and NEITHER is Palin!!
Get some prespective…we are talking about our futures here.

This uppity woman thinks that because she wears lipstick and has not aborted any of her children that she has the qualifications to be president. That’s right, I said PRESIDENT. I’m an actuary and I’ve run the numbers on John Sydney McCain III and there’s a 43% chance that he WILL NOT survive his 1st term should he be elected. That number goes up to 76% mid-way through what would be his 2nd term. So, do I want Sarah Palin to be a heartbeat away from the presidency less than 2 years removed from being the mayor of Wasilla Alaska?
Who wrote this script? This is like a Hollywood comedy gone horribly wrong and the scariest thing about it is that on the top two issues facing America right now, the Economy and Energy independence, she is 100% in agreement with the Bush administration. She is George Bush with lipstick. Talk about the proverbial pig.

The fact is Palin with her stint as Mayor and Gov of Alaska make her more qualified to be POTUS than Obama. From the time Obama was elected as Jr.Senator, which is basically 1/100th of the Senate body, he was already running for president. That is 143 days of experience as a Senator. He has never run anything in his life yet he thinks he’s ready to run the free world.
Here’s food for thought:
McDonald’s wouldn’t promote an employee to District Mgr after only 143 days on the job.
A Dr doesn’t become Chief of Staff after only 143 days as a Dr.
A teacher doesn’t become superintendent after only 143 days as a teacher.
2 yrs as Mayor and 20 months as Governor makes Palin 5 yrs more qualified than Obama.
No sane person would believe they were ready to be POTUS after being elected a Jr. Senator with 143 days on the job.

Not Having Abortion Is Palin’s ‘Primary Qualification’is a very low class comment from SC Democratic Chairwoman, Carol Fowler.
Her husband, Don Fowler a former Democratic National Committee Chairman said ” “Hurricane (Gustav) is going to hit New Orleans about the time (the Republican National Convention) starts. … That just demonstrates God is on our side.”
It seems Democrat Party does not have any person with a better education/knowledge to handle the Chairmanship.
My 7 year old daughter speaks better than this couple. They both need to go back to elementary school to learn again.
I am going to switch to Republican

NO LONGER A DEMOCRAT…. voting McCain/Palin for highest office in the land.
Obama knew what he was saying w/ the lipstick comment. Just watch his posture w/ the statement.

I one hundred percent agree with Mrs. Fowler. Being a mayor of a small town or a governor of a state with a very small population is not the same level of experience as a politician on the national level in Washington. She was hand picked because she is an evangelical. She believes that creationism should be taught in school. Let us get real about this; that goes against every thing our fore fathers fought for in this country, which is exactly why those evangelicals came to America for their religious freedom. The Americans who do not believe their beliefs should have that same promise from America now to be free to practice their religions. Religion should be taught at school and if you want your children to have it at school you have the right to send your children to a private religious school. Also the fact she chose to have her baby does not make her a great person or mother. I know many people who would make the same choice; she does not think others should get to choose, but that the government should choose for you. A great mother would want to wait a few years before entering such an important job that would take her away from a newborn. She is all about herself; that is why she is the kind of person who would be in a beauty contest. It would be like the Beverly Hillbillies come to Washington.Did she really finally get a college degree after attending 6 schools?

Fowler and her husband who felt God had chosen the Democratic Party when the Hurrican was heading for the US during the start of the Republican Convention should SHUT UP & NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN!!!

This election is sickening! What does a person do when they don’t like either party? Would I be “un-American” if I didn’t vote? Should I vote for the lesser of the two evils? Check out the Wikipedia page on John McCain’s ex-wife…the one he had many, many affairs on – are your morals in question only if you are President when you were cheating on your spouse? And as for Obama – well, let’s just say that going to the same church for 20 years (and counting the pastor as a personal friend) and then claiming you never heard the pastor speak ill about the country you claim to love – well, lying isn’t less a sin than cheating! What’s a voter to do?

Why does the Democratic party allow Mr&Mrs Fowler to speak? Everytime they speak someone has to come behind and run damage control. Maybe this couple can go on a speaking tour with Rev Wright. I am glad I no longer belong to the anti-God anti-family party.

Obama cares so much about the poor he won’t even help his own half brother who lives on a dollar a week in a ghetto in Kenya. Obama made $4 million last year and he can’t even help his own family. Obama lives in a million dollar plus mansion while his brother lives in a shack! Obama wants me to thinks he cares about my problems……

Dear Scmother2
Are you comparing Palin to Obama?
Joe Biden, Democratic Senator from Delaware, a state with about the same population as Alaska. He has been a senator for 35 years and he has not done much for the state of Delaware. he does not even understand his own religion’s teaching.(roman catholic. Please chekc it out.

“When you can’t beat them with ideas, try sleaze and personal attacks. ZeroBama is getting a little desperate.”
-Joaquin B.
Congratilations. You some how have managed to sum up the entire Rovian approach of the McCain team in one asinine statement.

Kevin,
Last time I checked the Democrat party represents ALL WALKS OF LIFE, not just Christians. Democrats aren’t anti-Christian, they’re anti-bigotry. Obviously you belong in the “small tent” Republican Party where only Christians are accepted. You must be proud…..4 more years of Bush because you put your personal religion over 95% of the country’s well being….just like a good little repiglican.

God Particle, of course Trig is the new Messiah. The Republicans don’t have an original thought to share between them, they had to steal “change” “celebrity” and “Messiah”.

These are not the times for right-wing screwball. The world is aflame and we have been pondering the knocked-up daughter of a pert and uncannily confident Alaskan mediocrity who was elevated to a national ticket for the purpose of changing the conversation. The Republicans wanted a new conversation, and they got one. Juno in Juneau!

i can not believe we live in a world where so many advocate the murder of babies. here’s some advice LIBERAL PIGS.
1. if you do not want to get pregnant use birth control. or are you liberals too stupid ? could it be that since there is a time limit on welfare that’s why we see more abortions now. by the way you can blame clinton for that. not the little money makers they used to be huh !!
2. if you do get pregnant look to adoption instead of killing an innocent child. but then again god forbid you have to stay off booze and weed for nine months.
3. if you don’t want a baby and can’t figure out how to use birth control or can’t afford it, CROSS YOUR LEGS. for the morons that’s where one leg rests over top of the other. if you can’t figure it out ask for help.
it’s that simple. by the way, carol fowler is a gross and pathetic pig. this woman is an example of the phrase ” typical white trash fashion”
she needs to come equiped with a mute button. what a pathetic piece of low class trash. let them keep derailing nobama.

god particle-
how is it that it’s ok for him to have tasered his stepson, drank and drove in his car, and threatened the life of her father. but then again, you advocate the murder of innocent babies. read my posting just above your words of wisdom.
you seem to think america is terrible. here’s some advice. get the hell out of here. don’t sink so low as to attack a baby with down syndrome. most of us real americans don’t share your views .

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nick-olio, did they let you out of that other blog already? More Palin tears, huh.
She is democrats worse nightmare. She WILL get ANWR open and get our gas prices down even though Obammy and Peelosi will fight it. Thank YOU, Vice President Sarah Palin.
She truly cares for people, not like Bamma and OBiden.
Bring HER on!!!!
Palin – 08

hey and she’s also pretty hott
http://www.hollywood-newsroom.com/news/sarah-palin-nude-hot-and-nsfw-get-out-the-vote/

Hey – check out this video. The language is Swedish, but it shows McCain’s arrival from Vietnam. You can hear his name clearly and see him limping. I think you have to cut and paste it…
http://svt.se/svt/play/video.jsp?a=1243728

LarryMan-
right on !! liberals are pathetic. by the way, you may like my last response to BrooklynGril. i know you called her a gal but i’m not sure. she or he spelled girl wrong.
McCain/Palin 08

This does not surprise me. Look how they treated a formal fist lady (Hillary). They could careless about the first Gov of Alaska.

Brooklyn”Gril”
just to let you know where you wrote “you and your party is” it should have been “your and your party are”. in correct english “you are ” is proper . “you is” would be considered incorrect. “Is” comes after he or she . just another helpful hint. you’ll get it right eventually. maybe one day you’ll be as articulate as a fifth grader.

I loved this article and it drives home what I believe Obama supporters need to remember. The Palin Panic is all about smoke & mirrors. Palin was picked as a publicity stunt to get votes & nothing more. The right-wingers have clung to the notion that a 44 year old, who allowed herself to get pregnant, has done this country some kind of service by bearing another handicapped child who will need special ed. and special services his entire life. For some reason, using birth control (or sterilization) would have seemed the better decision, given the fact she already had 4 children. The fact that her 17 year old daughter is now pregnant shouldn’t surprise anyone either. Abstinence is a good term, but not very practical in reality. Palin is all of the things pro-choice women like myself get sick in the stomach about. She will NOT get the Hillary votes and the McCain/Palin ticket won’t be getting mine.

Brooklyngril, God Particle,
I dont know you but read your comments i can tell that you are a die-hard Democrats and have no idea what you are talking about. I can tell that if Democrat Party put an animal out there running for office you would vote for it anyway.
You are just like most of other Democrats: angry, narrow mind, using uneducated languages and untrue rumors to put down your opponents.
Keep in mind who was the first sitting president to cheat on his wife and have sex with the intern at the highest office of America. The list of unethical Democrats is very long too.
I have a question for you. For national security reason (my most concern for this election) will Mr. Obama decide to bomb Kenya if the terrorists use Kenya as its base? Keep in mind his step mother, grandmother, uncles, brothers and sister still live there. I really doubt it. I hope it will never happen so that our children can be safe. Remember we have unfold more than 20 terrorist cell right here in the USA since September 11, 2001
President Kennedy once said:”Ask not what your country can do for you. but what you can do for your country.”
Please ask Mr. Barrack Hussein Obama what he has really done for this country before he asks this country voting for him. Please don’t bring up community organizer, state senator or 173 days as US Senator. BTW during the time he was/is a Senator he has never come up with a bill that would benefit the average American except for his own interest. If you do have the facts please post it on!
I hope you dont read this with an angry attitude. Please vote for America not for a party. look deep into each candidate and make your call. Thanks

To ABORT or NOT ABORT???That is the question…Had Barbara Bush, spit little junior down sink 62 years ago the world would be a better place today and millions of people would still be alive..And this “A” hole would never have been president..There some times is a need to Abort and in Bush’s case it would have been justified..And the world would have never heard of this slug.

Tracey,
Thanks for the grammatical help. I will certainly try harder on my next post..

indy_voter -
why not point them out if you can ? i did make a few grammatical errors on purpose just to see if some of the responders actually could point them out. curious i guess. maybe if i write ” done do lemme know what i done did wrongses ” you can. you could not and did not point them out before i corrected YOU. so bring it on. as for the mother needing help……..would that be in the form of a government freebie. i resent paying a fortune in taxes because so many need a little help. take some accountability for your actions .

tracy,
You said you’re a detective. Shouldn’t you be hunting down bad guys or something instead of correcting some anonymous blogger’s grammar? Hope you’re not using your department’s computer…By the way, I also purposely put in grammatical errors. Hope you can find them…

Tracey,
“as for the mother needing help……..would that be in the form of a government freebie. i resent paying a fortune in taxes because so many need a little help. take some accountability for your actions .”
What do you consider a government freebie? I understand your resentment…but leaving them to fend for themselves and die isn’t the answer either is it. Perhaps, abortion wouldn’t a bad thing in that situation, huh? You’d only be killing one person now instead of two later….You’d also eliminate the risk of them having resentment and turning on society, right? Just trying to be logical..

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A real brilliant post by P-51 jock. You wouldn’t make a pimple on a P-51 jock’s butt.
Bush’s mother abort? Well, at least she was MARRIED at the time. That’s more than we can say for Obammmy’s mother.
Bush has kept the country safe, so safe that an idiot like you can post drivel on a public board.
Hey, Homeland Security, come get this nutcase!!!!
Palin – 08

LarryMan-
RIGHT ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!! great comment. Nobama is another product of the freebie food stamp stampede. he’s a disgrace.

Republican Family Values
STOP REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA
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* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
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* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
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* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
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* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
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* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
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* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
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* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
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* Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
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* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
* Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner’s report here and his full report here.

tracey,
Sorry….As hard as it might seem I had better things to do…Glad to see you missed me…As far as my knowledge base…don’t want to waste it on you..you know it all it already..

• NEWS ALERT • NEWS ALERT •
Trig Palin is the new Messiah THE SECOND COMING IS HERE! God sent his son in the form of a downs syndrome baby to test our faith.
ALL GOOD FUNDAMENTAIST CHRISTIANS SHOULD HEAD TO ALASKA…POST HASTE!
And save money with a one way ticket

The biggest science experiment in human histoy, The Hadron Collider experiment was almost blocked by a scared, vocal minority of Right Wing Religious Cooks convinced that turning on the LHC would spell doom for the earth. Yet some simple research and background in fairly basic science should have been enough to allay the fears generated by the LHC project.
Perhaps the Right wingers attack on science is having an affect in that our students lag the all other first world nations in science education. And now we have a VP candidate who actually supports the nonsense of Creationism. If you believe in creationism then you would have to reject all of Physics, Biology, Geology, Astonomy, Archeology, Mathematics and on and on.
Palin is a member of the
“Flat Earth Society”
Obama Biden ‘08

indy_voter-
in that brief time what did you have better to do ? never mind, i’m afraid of the answer. and if your time is so full and invaluable why are you bothering to respond to me ? detectives look at every angle. i haven’t even started . anyway……….what are your purposeful grammatical errors. and by the way, i usually don’t do this. guess i’m just bored with my two year old visiting with her grandparents and my husband out of the country fighting to save lives from terrorists. at least it makes for a semi-entertaining afternoon.

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God Particle, glad that you spend all your time looking up this trivial crap.
It’s better than locking yourself in the bathroom with your daddy’s Playboy.
Palin – 08

Something is very strange that democrats favor baby killing but they also love rudely criticizing how a mother is going to raise her down’s syndrome kid.
Sen. Joe Biden is not suitable for United States vice-presidential candidate as the man did not raise his son as a straight and decent person according to Democrats’ standard for vp nominee, yet the liberals and Liberal Media kept their mouth shut about this scandal! Washington Post reported on 08/24/08:
A son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show. The legal actions have been playing out in New York State Supreme Court since 2007, and they focus on Hunter and James Biden’s involvement in Paradigm Companies LLC, a hedge fund group. Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, briefly served as president of the firm.
Barack Hussein Obama has shown very poor judgment and awful taste for his vp picking not to say his blank contribution to his own career and this country as US Senator. It’s laughable for a so called progressive party supporting such a pair as their presidential election nominees.

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Great one, Tracy. And I caught that above about your husband in the military.
WE SALUTE YOU, and him.
Palin – 08

LarryMan-
thanks, i adore my husband and his courage. my grandfather was a soviet vet of the battle of stalingrad. what our men are fighting for gives these bad cases of cranial rectal inversion the right the spew their garbage. my grandfather fought the german sixth army so we could eventually come her. Tracy is my american name. and i am so proud of it.

indi_voter,
Please read my comments again. I did not address it to you but you are too nosy to reply to me. Please keep all the untrue facts with you and pass it to your children. I don’t want to discuss with you.
Thanks

If you are supporting McSame & Caribou Barbie you all into 1 or 4 categories…
1. You are an unabshed Racist
2. You are evil… Drill Baby Drill
3. You are as dumb as a rock
4. You are brainwashed by your fundamentalist preacher
Obama -Biden ’08

BarleyAMan
You would be a number 3!

STOP REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA
* Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.
* Republican legislator Scott Muschany was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl.
* Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl.
* Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
* Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an “assistant U.S. attorney” appointed by President Bush’s attorney general.
* Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
* Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
* Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.
* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
* Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
* Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner’s report here and his full report here.

indy_voter-
a jackass ? guess i am to some. do i care ?? NO ! i won’t deny i have a very hard code of ethics. there are cores of behavior good men and women should follow. too bad more 28 year olds don’t have such strong ethics and knowledge of right and wrong . let’s be honest . you were not trying to be decent. and why can’t you answer my grammar question ? anyway, that’s beside the point. what difference would it make to you if my husband returns home safe or not ? all his death would be to you is another notch against republicans and president bush. i pray to god every day he comes home to his daughter and me safe. anyway, where is your correction of your grammar ????

god particle-
here’s one ! SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS !!!!!!!!!

Saturday in Colorado Springs, Colo., Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said, “The fact is that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers. The McCain-Palin administration will make them smaller and smarter and more effective for homeowners who need help.”
“Too expensive to the taxpayers?”
They’re private entities.
Palin knows NADA!!

I always remember vividly that Bill Clinton pointed a finger to the world and said: “Read my lips, I do not have sexual relationship with that woman Monica Lewinsky”!!! Bill is the king of the sexual scandal, I think the Congress should legistale to stop this cr*p being exposed in the public to save America’s face.

“1. if you do not want to get pregnant use birth control. or are you liberals too stupid ? could it be that since there is a time limit on welfare that’s why we see more abortions now. by the way you can blame clinton for that. not the little money makers they used to be huh !!”
Ummm, if you right wing extremist taught your children that birth control not only prevents pregnancies but also STDs, you republican hicks wouldn’t have the highest teen pregnancy rate in red states.
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Ummm, if left wing extremists like some here knew more, understood more, and were willing to refrain from misrepresenting facts, they would tell the truth that many sexually-transmitted diseases cannot be prevented by many forms of birth control, and that only 100% abstinence is 100% effective. In addition, they would know that referring to someone as a “hick” is the same sort of behavior as referring to someone by any other bigoted and derogatory term, whether it relates to a person’s age, the part of the country they inhabit, their race, religion, national origin, sex, color or whatever. They would also know that millions of Republicans, and, for that matter, millions of Democrats and Independents, too, cannot be pigeonholed the way ignorant, stupid and dishonest people all too often try to do. Last, teen pregnancy rates are not kept on such bases as “republican hicks.” Such records are kept by race, however. Perhaps BrooklynGril was inarticulate on that subject.
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“2. if you do get pregnant look to adoption instead of killing an innocent child. but then again god forbid you have to stay off booze and weed for nine months.”
And since you and your party is so against abortion, name one program that Republicans have created in the last 8 years to PREVENT unwanted pregnancies. Oh you can’t? Can you name one program the Republicans have drafted to make adoptions easier? Oh…you can’t do that either?
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One more time: only 100% abstinence is 100% effective in preventing pregnancy. Republicans tend to favor abstinence education programs, although that is not universal, just as although there are many pro-choice Republicans, just as there are many pro-life Democrats, most Republicans are pro-life and most Democrats, pro-choice. Republicans have certainly supported abstinence education in Congressional lawmaking. Sexually transmitted diseases can be passed via direct blood-to-blood contact in some cases, such as HIV, so even 100% abstinence cannot protect one from all forms of transmission of all STDs. If you would like to learn more about abstinence, read up. I confess to grave doubts that BrooklynGril has any interest in reading up on anything that might conflict with her previously-held opinions.
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Let us deal with some real-world truths. John and Cindy McCain adopted a special-needs child from India. Cindy McCain has spent a huge amount of time and an enormous amount of money during her life, helping provide medical services to people in Third World countries. That is how she came across the young girl the McCains adopted. Todd and Sarah Palin chose life for their unborn child who, they had learned through amniocentesis, would be a Down’s syndrome, special-needs child. Their daughter, Bristol, chose life for her unborn child, too. These are people who not only talk the talk, but walk the walk. That extends to their sons’ service in Iraq, as well, for both the Palins and the McCains.
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Senator Barack Obama, I read the other day, has now claimed (for apparently the first time in his life according to a search of the texts of his own two memoirs and on public databases) that he once thought about going into the military and serving his country. According to him, this was when he graduated from high school and was required to register with the Selective Service system. ( http://tinyurl.com/5b25ax ). I wonder, was that as opposed to serving only the needs of the racial group to which he happens to belong as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago? Did he decide not to enlist because he realized he might test positive for the use of cocaine? I would like to know why, exactly, he refused to serve his country, when this country has given him so much. Mr. Obama said it was “… not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”
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How noble is Barack Obama. How brave. What a patriot! That is, until one compares the choices he has made in his life to the choices and personal sacrifices of Senator McCain, his forebears, his sons, the Palin’s son, and the sacrifices of all those who have ever served this country in the uniforms of our military, and of their families. After all, it is the families who have often borne the heaviest burdens.
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“3. if you don’t want a baby and can’t figure out how to use birth control or can’t afford it, CROSS YOUR LEGS. for the morons that’s where one leg rests over top of the other. if you can’t figure it out ask for help.”
Well birth control could be as easy to obtain as let’s say…ummm viagra! Oh that’s right, McCain thinks that making love trumps a women’s ability to protect herself.
“she needs to come equiped with a mute button. what a pathetic piece of low class trash.”
And can you believe that McCain choose that pathetic piece of low class trash as his running mate? Oh goodie, Palin’s other teen daughter can de-flower right there in the WH.
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Left wing extremists, like some here, want taxpayer-paid birth control available even to children of middle school age and younger, without parental notification. None of those kids has a need for Viagra: that’s both a straw man and an apples-and-oranges argument that BrooklynGril tries to foist upon us. Yet, she trumps herself, speaking of “a women’s ability to protect herself” [sic]. They aren’t men or women at that age. They are not capable of forming mature judgments based on a full knowledge and understanding of the relevant facts and consequences. We should not abet immorality and poor life choices through the aegis of the State, least of all when it comes to children.
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Beyond that, the State should not force, for reasons of avoiding a clear and direct conflict with the dictates of the First Amendment’s guarantee of freedom of religion, by collecting taxes for that purpose, those who find it anathema to pay for abortions and birth control, for example. Personally, I have no problem with allowing abortions for the sake of the life of the mother, and in cases of rape and incest, nor do I have any problem with adults having the choice to purchase birth control for themselves — so long as they are adults. Speaking of Constitutional freedoms, though, it sure is nice to hear a presumably urban person like BrooklynGril express her deep, abiding support for the Second Amendment. Surely, the right to keep and bear arms is an essential part of “a women’s ability to protect herself” [sic]! Nice to know that BrooklynGril has that in common with the next Vice President of the United States, NRA Life Member Sarah Palin.
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BrooklynGril clearly has some serious anger issues that make her a bad risk for obtaining or having a concealed carry permit. She said, “… can you believe that McCain choose that pathetic piece of low class trash as his running mate? Oh goodie, Palin’s other teen daughter can de-flower right there in the WH.” A sound like BrooklynGril is on a course to make or embody a threat to a protected individual. Perhaps she should let the Secret Service know who and where she is, to prevent herself from doing someone — perhaps even herself, tragically — some grievous harm.

Why does the poster known as ‘God Particle’ post so many things we have already seen independently established to have been nothing more than scurrilous rumors, the sort of thing spread by people of no apparent morality, education, or intellect?
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I will not dignify such specious and malicious garbage any further than to provide a small sample of the material available at the following link. You may be sure you will find, if you look, that ‘God Particle’s’ “facts” simply aren’t what they purport to be.
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http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html
• Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn’t cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.
• She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a “What if?” question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin’s first term.
• She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982.
• Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a “courtesty” when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.
• Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska’s schools. She has said that students should be allowed to “debate both sides” of the evolution question, but she also said creationism “doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.”

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Tracy, don’t let niccolio scare you, he escaped from his treehouse. Soon his mommy will take his computer away from him and he will have to go to bed without supper.
His lies he spews at that great woman, Sarah Palin, is eating away at his alcohol rotted liver. They cannot stand it that McCain, the Great American, who was serving his country while Obammy was doing crack, is ahead in polls and gaining. They cannot stand that a woman, a GREAT Woman, who has family and home town values, will be in the white house before Hitlery.
They need help, lots and lots of help.
Palin – 08

niccolo-
so glad you were able to see a few of my purposeful errors. can you find the others? let me know if you do. it’s like a thousand piece jigsaw puzzle.. go for it.. time is a wastin’. that should be an easy one for you. sent you a freebie. being a liberal you should like that..

niccolo-
curious………..yes i already know that’s a lot of periods. why may i ask has brooklyngril not responded ? also, do you personally advocate killing unborn babies ? and if so why ? and if you can not give me a reason other than incest or rape where i do believe in the right of abortion i’d like to hear your reasoning

My errors are deliberate errors, not purposeful, since that would be to attribute volition to errors. I am so glad you appreciated may correcting a few of your many inadvertent errors. No doubt they’re the result of haste, and not from lack of education, or out of sheer laziness. Can you find my corrections of your atrocious grammar in this text? It’s like a thousand-piece puzzle.
You presume to know my likes and dislikes? Call me a skeptic, but I doubt you even know what the word “liberal” means, let alone how liberalism differs from Conservatives, what is “neo” about the neo-liberals, what “neo’ about neo-liberals, how European liberalism differs from American, the origins of the Republican party, the Democratic party, the basic belief system animating Republicanism, the reasons why party divisions first sprung up in American politics.
You know what? I KNOW you don’t know why you like Sarah Palin. How do I know? Because, as yet, no one knows where she really stands on any of the key positions of the day, and none of her supporters have bothered to look back at her actual record. If they had, they’d realize she is NOT the politician they have been making her out to be.
The ancient Greeks had a word for someone who formed strong political opinions, but who was completely uninformed.
They called such people IDIOTS.
That makes you one, too.
You think you know my preferences?
Whom did I vote for in the 2000 primaries, and again in the primaries of 2008?
I’ll give you a clue, he ran for President both times.

niccolo,
now now. don’t get so upset . it must suck to be that unhappy. make some friends….. of course you’ll say you have some. never mind…………. wow it is a good thing my husband is not here.. he’d have you for lunch and spit you out again for a snack

Another teen-age bride supporting the Palin’s. Somehow, I’m not surprised.
So, you must be from Alabama – you’d have to be, marrying so young. What is the age of consent again in Alabama. Was it 14?
You sound like your very close to your husband. How nice.
Like brother & sister, huh?
Just wondering…you were so curious to hear my views on incest.

If all these people are so pumped on abortion, why don’t they just abort themselves. Or isn’t it as much fun as murdering someone else’s living being — notice I didn’t say baby so I would not offend all those legitamate baby killers.

This is just vile! The decision to have or not to have an abortion is an intensely private and painful decision. For the Dems to make such a vile statement, they paint themselves a party of unethical and demonize those who choose to have babies!

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dumbest b*tch alive-
how is tracy a hypocrite ? i cant figure that out. anyway, i wrote you a song:
“GIVE IT TO ME FOR NOTHIN’ AND I WANT IT RIGHT NOW.
FREE’S MY FAVORITE WORD AND I’LL SHOUT IT OUT LOUD.
A GOVERNMENT CHECK IS THE BEST WAY TO GO.
FOODSTAMPS AND FREEBIES ARE ALL THAT I KNOW.
I WANT IT FOR NOTHIN’ AND I WANT IT FOR FREE.
KEEP PAYIN’ YOUR TAXES AND SUPPORTIN’ ME.
I WON’T DO AN HONEST DAYS WORTH OF WORK.
OH NO !!
WELFARE IS THE WAY DON’T YOU SEE THAT YOU JERK !”

Hey, Look ,where Biden`s speech??? Wow,Sarah Palin show up at speech more than Biden. Tell Brack Obama ” Dry up”
I don`t like Obama`s face ( sneer) looks alike he knows eveythings but not true. I am sick of Obama`s whiner , Why not , Ask Obama about Rezko??
Vote McCain and Sarh for president.
Bill , Please don`t help Obama, he knows you are dog.
Let vote McCain!!!!!

Palin is female and has a family. She shows what she can do and has done. Now if Dem’s need a woman why not find one who has had an abortion and let everyone see the gooy mess she left in the abortionist little blood soaked jar. Now let us decide which one is a better VP candidate. One with children or one without children and a “chum bucket” for a sence of responsibility? Come on Dems, get off the sexism and back to issues! You knnow if a VP candidate treated her own children bad no one would vote for her. That’s why you chose a man.

Hey, brooklyngirl, is that what we can look forward to? Obama’s foulmouthed ignorant, rabied dogs and bitches? Keep on, you are really helping Obama bigtime!

I keep making the mistake of trying to make sense of what the liberals say, when I already know it’s impossible, because they don’t make any sense.
They are terrified of Palin because, in their eyes, she doesn’t have any experience. Yet they ignore that Obama has a lot less experience than her, while ignoring Palin’s accomplishments.
That is typical of liberals. To use an argument against a candidate that is the same argument against their own candidate, even more so.
The difference is that the argument against Palin not having executive experience is a lie, and the same argument against Obama is true.
Palin has had a lot of executive experience and has had to make decisions and be responsible for them, which Obama hasn’t.
I have a friend in Alaska who is upset they might lose her as Governor.
He said she took on a corrupt government there and successfully turned it around.
The people in Alaska love her because of what she has done to make that state a better place to live and work. She has an 80% approval rating, the highest in the nation.
Could a liberal please name even one good thing Obama has accomplished during his short and unremarkable poltical career?
I am terrified of Obama, and for good reasons, as I will explain.
Obama will be a disaster for sure. Not just if someone dies and he is defaulted to be the leader.
At least, you who are afraid of Palin, have a buffer in McCain.
Obama was raised a muslim and grew up idolizing Malcolm X.
I know liberals love to deny this, but there is proof of records showing him enrolled and attending muslim schools as a muslim.
In his autobiography he observes that, like Malcolm X, he wishes he could get rid of the white blood in him. So, he is definately a racist and hates the whiteness in himself.
Can’t get much more hatred than wanting to purge ones blood to cut ties to a race of which one was born to, even theoretically speaking.
He has ties to terrorists and an America, white people hating, so called minister. Of which I seriously doubt that minister has much if any contact with God.
His foreign experience is so non- existent, that he went to Europe and proposed doing away with a treaty that was done away with 20 years ago. Whoops!!!
The terrorists are rooting for him and support him for president. They think he will finally pull the U.S. out of Iraq, as they have been wanting this for a long time.
Then they say that when the US pulls out they can take over Iraq and then concentrate on putting together and launching terrorist attacks on Israel and the US.
Apparently our attack on Iraq has kept them too busy, and resources spread out, to be able to do that so far.
The large majority of muslims view Obama as muslim, since in their religion, being born to a muslim father makes you muslim.
They feel that having him as president will put them that much closer to their goal of imposing islamic law over the whole world.
Once America, their biggest obstical to that goal, is under islamic control, the rest of the world will quickly follow. At least in their dream of dreams, and I think they are right about that.
I don’t know if Obama will actively help them in that goal, but I seriously doubt he would do anything to stop them. Which is the way Europe is going right now.
The liberals love it when Obama says he is for change. They are so much into worshiping him that they don’t even care about what that change is and they don’t even ask him about that.
He wants to tax Americans to the point where there will be no more middle class. Then there will just be the elites(like him) and the have-nots, who will be totally dependent on the government for everything.
He wants to redistribute the wealth, by giving the UN the power to tax us for billions for World Poverty. That’s above and beyond the billions America already sends.
Plus, the billions we already send have made things worse, not better.
The evil, murdering leaders take the money and use it to finance the killing of their own people for being Christain. Along with making them wealthy and powerful.
No amount of money we send to the undeveloped countries will help untill the cause of the poverty is eliminated, and they get a government that is at least somewhat for the people.
But, since most of those immoral, unethcial, criminal leaders are high up in the UN and run the ethics commitee, we can’t get rid of them.
Especially since they were caught red handed with their paws in the Oil for Food cookie jar, and none of them were accused or punished for it.
Obama is the author of a bill to give these same criminals more billions of our taxes to steal, corrupt and waste.
I guess it takes a whole lot of money to maintain a murdering, dictator life style. And since they lost their mad money from the Oil for Food, they have to beg the world for more.
So basically the wonderful changes he wants is to do away with is democracy, at least for the peons, and turn the US into a Socialist/Communist country.
He wants us to be under the rule of the evil corrupt UN and the world court, so they can make us lose the war on terror and not have the power or ability to protect our freedom. Or to be able to free other countries. Like we were niave enough to waste precious American lives in WWII, so they could turn around and hate us and let muslims defecate on our hero’s graves.
Then I think, maybe having Obama as president will help to open the eyes of liberals when he messes up so bad even they can’t ignore it.
Then I remember that he is so adept at avoiding responsibility for anything, that he will just blame his mistakes on the conservatives, and liberals will blindly believe that.
I just pray that, God forbid, if Obama becomes president, that he won’t be able to do so much damage in 4 years, that it can’t be repaired.

annarbormike —
You wrote:
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This article could use a wording tune up to make it a
little more balanced. Especially in the headline. It
suggests Palin was entirely wrong, and then talks about
how she was only wrong with regard to the past 30
years? Slanted.
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Agreed, as far as you go.
You wrote:
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@ habee4380 (and majorundertaking, somewhat)
I think you’re wrong about that.
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Please define what you mean by, “that” in this context, annarbormike.
You wrote:
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Charlie Gibson got it about as correct as anyone could.
The idea of “multiple Bush Doctrines” is still being
contended in academic circles because of the many
apparent shifts in Bush’s strategy and the disagreement
about how to partition his overall strategy. Some foreign
policy experts still refer to a singular doctrine.
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Some may “still refer to a singular doctrine,” but that does not mean Gibson’s original question to Governor Palin on the subject was not the cause of absolutely legitimate confusion. He could have and should have known and understood the extant confusion and academic disagreement over the very nature and extent of what has been referred to by many as the “Bush Doctrine.”. He should have clarified to which understanding of the nature and extent of the Bush Doctrine he was referring. That he did not is indicative of his ignorance, or of a knowing attempt on his part to take advantage of that very confusion in an attempt to pose a “gotcha” question. If the latter is the case, that is journalistic malpractice and betrays blatant bias. However, my third and most severe criticism of Charlie Gibson in that series of questions is that he was observably arrogant and condescending as he told her what (in his own opinion) the Bush Doctrine is, as if it were the only interpretation, when clearly, many interpretations exist. In other words, Charlie Gibson told Sarah Palin and the entire audience something that very evidently is not true, and he did so in an impolite and thoroughly unprofessional manner, adding insult to injury. Is it any wonder so many who have seen this sort of thing over and over again from the MSM perceive bias, generally?

annarbormike —
If you will further follow the links in the Wikipedia article to the sources for the following passage, you will find more scholarship to the effect that definition of the Bush Doctrine is not one, sole, agreed-upon thing.
It may be viewed as a set of several related foreign
policy principles, including stress on ending terrorism,
spreading democracy,[1] increased unilateralism in
foreign policy[1] and an expanded view of American
national security interests. Foreign policy experts
argue over the meaning of the term “Bush Doctrine,”
and some scholars have suggested that there is no
one unified theory underlying Bush’s foreign policy.
Jacob Weisberg identifies six successive “Bush Doctrines”
in his book The Bush Tragedy,[2] while former Bush
staffer Peter D. Feaver has counted seven.[3] Other
foreign policy experts have taken the term to mean
Bush’s doctrine of preventive war, first articulated in
2002, which holds that the United States government
should depose foreign regimes that represent a threat
to the security of the United States, even if such threats
are not immediate and no attack is imminent. This
policy was used to justify the invasion of Iraq in March
2003.[4]

annarbormike —
Please also note the following passage:
The main elements of the Bush Doctrine were delineated
in a National Security Council document, the National
Security Strategy of the United States, published on
September 20, 2002.[15] This document is often cited as
the definitive statement of the doctrine.[16][17][18] It
was updated in 2006 … [19]
I encourage you to check out the sources for that passage, as well.
You wrote:
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Charlie was very careful to say the following:
GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September
2002, before the Iraq war.
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True. Too bad that clarification was not in his original question. Too bad so many are willing to give him a pass for not having done so, as a minimally fair journalist would have done.
You wrote:
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And many, many foreign policy experts agree that the root
of the Bush doctrine was stated in Sept. 2002, and that
statement introduced preemptive war.
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The root was never the issue. Please do not modify the circumstances of the moment under discussion retroactively: Charlie Gibson did not explicitly refer to any “root.” He referred very explicitly to the “Bush Doctrine,” as such. Most importantly, I ask you to take into account a longer view of history. Please note the following quote from Franklin Delano Roosevelt, another wartime President:
When you see a rattlesnake poised to strike, you do not
wait until he has struck to crush him.
— David Dallek, “Franklin Roosevelt and American
Foreign Policy: 1932-1945”, p. 288, Oxford University
Press (1979).
Sounds a lot like preemptive war to me, annarbormike. It may help you and others to understand that the Bush Administration has never made any pronouncement of policy that has officially been entitled, the “Bush Doctrine.” In the absence of something that they, at least, define that way, we must recognize the existence of a variety of understandings of what may be meant by the term. Thus, the reasonable inquiry, “In what respect, Charlie?” of Charlie Gibson by Sarah Palin (per the transcript):
GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?
PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?
Notice, and this is crucial, that Gibson does not clarify at this point. In short, he is evasive, refusing to be specific in response to her question as to what this fairly ill-defined term means in the context of his question:
GIBSON: The Bush — well, what do you — what do you
interpret it to be?
PALIN: His world view.
Following Gibson’s initial failure to define his terms and then his purposeful evasion, Palin punts. Gibson then makes his error of fact:
GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September
2002, before the Iraq war.
As we have seen, that is a common mistake (see again both Krauthammer’s analysis and that of Dan Froomkin, one on the right and one on the left, both cited and linked to, above), and so of necessity involves erroneous presumption on Gibson’s part. Because Gibson makes this mistake, we can clearly see the wisdom of Palin’s cautious request for clarity. In addition, we see in a new and more revealing light not only the truth of the criticism of his first question of this series, but also the truth of his failure to clarify when legitimately requested to do so. Palin, bereft of accurate specifics from Gibson, goes general:
PALIN: I believe that what President Bush has attempted
to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who
are hell bent on destroying our nation. There have been
blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes
made. And with new leadership, and that’s the beauty of
American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new
leadership comes opportunity to do things better.
At this juncture, Gibson offers yet another interpretation that is no more accurate than any of his others, given that it is anything but comprehensive or precise. However, it at least has the virtue of a certain limited concreteness. It would have been so much better, journalistically, had he at least adopted this from the beginning:
GIBSON: The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that
we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we
have the right to a preemptive strike against any other
country that we think is going to attack us. Do you
agree with that?
Here, Governor Palin, I believe, has decided that the confusion has become so great out of her interlocutor’s own mouth, that no detailed answer of any accuracy will be possible, so far afield has Gibson traipsed. Gibson is now asking her if she agrees with his erroneous interpretation. If she answers, “No,” there is every chance that she will be misinterpreted to be answering that she disagrees with the Bush Doctrine. She decides to punt, yet again, after hearing the immediately foregoing, which is Gibson’s fourth iteration:
PALIN: I agree that a president’s job, when they swear
in their oath to uphold our Constitution, their top priority
is to defend the United States of America.
I know that John McCain will do that and I, as his vice
president, if we are blessed with that vote of the
American people and are elected to serve and are sworn
in on January 20, that will be our top priority is to defend
the American people.
Gibson may think he is being a tough journalist, with what follows, his fifth attempt. He is not. He is being tendentious, biased, antagonistic and confusing. Note the difference between this and some of the earlier versions of the question, in that in this question, he now implicitly, albeit incorrectly, assumes the correctness of his interpretation of the Bush Doctrine. Also, note the inclusion of the subjective “feel” and “might, ” where earlier it had been “think” and “is going to”:
GIBSON: Do we have a right to anticipatory self-defense?
Do we have a right to make a preemptive strike against
another country if we feel that country might strike us?
Palin enunciates American foreign policy quite clearly and accurately, here, avoiding all of the traps Gibson has set:
PALIN: Charlie, if there is legitimate and enough
intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against
the American people, we have every right to defend our
country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty
to defend us.

annarbormike —
You wrote:
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Read this, it outlines a lot of the ideas even though
its a little dated:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nssall.html
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Read this, as it has been referred to by so many of the authors who have dealt with the subject of the Bush Doctrine:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss/2006/

annarbormike —
You wrote:
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Palin really let me down with a lot of her responses,
and I believe a lot of other independents who have
been doing their homework and listening in for
something of substance to commit their vote to. Her
answers seemed scripted, and at some points largely
uninformed especially with regard to Russia…
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I agree that Palin’s answers were largely low-density when it came to real substance. I agree that it would have been better had she given more in-depth replies. I agree that she is not an expert on world affairs.
Having said all that, it is also clear to me that she is a quick study, has a good head on her shoulders, and from her history, does her homework industriously and with an attention to detail. She understands, I believe, what it is that she does not yet understand. Let us all take a deep breath and recall that Johnson, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and the younger Bush all came to the Presidency, let alone the Vice Presidency, long on domestic policy experience and short on foreign policy experience. There is a reason for that: unless one has active, involved experience as a Vice President of the United States, or is a prior Secretary of State or Defense, it is literally impossible for virtually any conceivable candidate — by which I mean past or sitting Governors, Senators or Representatives — to have formed the combination of experience and expertise we would all like to see in our Presidents and Vice Presidents.
It is for precisely that reason that we Americans look beneath mere policy positions to make our decisions, why we place such great emphasis on the character of candidates as we do, and why we constantly look for clues as to what the real character of each candidate is, versus their image. In the end, because we all know that the world is a dangerous and unpredictable place, what a great many of us — the ones who are not the hopeless prisoners of our ideology — are looking for is any assurance we can find that the person we elect will be able to handle what comes better than his or her opponent can. When I look at Barack Obama’s and Joe Biden’s records, I am aghast at how wrong each of them has been, and how often. Spare me the recitation of how wrong Bush, et al. have been: they are not running, and the attack on “McBush” has failed: no sensible person who pays any attention to politics believes John McCain is going to simply carry out the same policies Bush has had.
You wrote:
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Palin did not do a good job here, unless your standard
for her was low.Charlie was probably talking down to
her because she refused to give him clear, well thought
out answers to his questions. She went off on too many
digressions, and her conviction only really showed
itself on the simplest of issues. Locking in on the
mission and never blinking? I need a little more
cognition in my vice president than that.
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You mistake, here, I think, what the appropriate goal was for the McCain-Palin campaign, for this interview. All they had to do was have Governor Palin not hurt the McCain campaign. That, I think it is plain to see from the many reviews, they achieved. Universal approval? Certainly not. Criticism, some of it severe? Sure. She survived the interview largely intact, however. She made no blunders of the scale of Ford’s infamous Poland type. She stuck to her talking points well, and the innate reality of her character came through. I think many voters perceived Gibson’s treatment of Palin for what it was: journalistic malpractice, bias and condescension.
Ask yourself, annarbormike: into the themes of which campaign does Gibson’s conduct play? Most important of all, how was Sarah Palin’s performance in that particular situation generally perceived among independents, women and what the pollsters like to call the “persuadables”? She did just fine, is the bottom line.
finis
p.s. sorry for the confusion, if any, engendered by having to split the post up, but the filters are picky.

For mblack1 —
You wrote:
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Wake up conservative women.
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Conservative women, Independent women, and many, many Democrat women are awake and energized as never before by the candidacy of Sarah Palin. They need no false calls from mblack1 or anyone else who, in reality, would prefer they all go to sleep until after Election Day.
You wrote:
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You are being used.
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… by the Left, to the extent that you let their attempts, like this one, to sell you a lie, succeed.
You wrote:
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Ask yourself why Roe vs. Wade is still around. From 2000-2006, the situation was ideal for making abortion illegal, with Bush as president, a conservative majority on the Supreme Court and a conservative majority in the legislature. What you got was a conservative trifecta that did nothing.
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That statement by mblack1 is categorically false on multiple bases. First, let us consider an absolutely indisputable fact: the United States Senate was not in the control of a Republican majority, let alone a conservative one, for most of the first two years of the presidency of George W. Bush. On Thursday, May 24, 2001, Sen. James Jeffords of Vermont left the Republican Party and became an Independent, allied with Democrats. That act threw control of the Senate to the Democrat Party. Republicans did not regain control of the Senate until the election results of 2002 resulted in a majority beginning in January, 2003.
That is only part of the story, however. Even after the Republicans again gained control, they still lacked the necessary 60 votes to shut off debate. That meant that the whole time the Republicans were supposedly in control, the Democrats could block almost any legislation by filibuster.
All of that is still only a mere part of the story. If you read what mblack1 said closely, you may have noticed the claim that all three branches were in control, not merely of Republicans, but of what was claimed to be “a conservative trifecta.” Thus, the Senate would have to have been in “conservative” hands. That, too, is false. Of the nominally Republican Senators in office during this presidency, nowhere near all can accurately and truthfully be called “conservative,” particularly when it comes to the relevant issue: abortion. Republican Senators who support (or supported when they were in the Senate) at least some abortion rights have included Jim Jeffords (before he left the party), Arlen Specter, Susan Collins, Olympia J. Snowe, Lincoln Chafee, Chafee’s late father, Olympia Snowe, and Kay Bailey Hutchison — none of whom would vote to overturn Roe v Wade.
Where mblack1 leaves reality far behind is in describing the U.S. Supreme Court as “conservative” when it comes to this issue. We already know that there are no more than four votes on the current SCOTUS to overturn Roe v Wade, if that. How do we know? Let us look at the Chief Justice’s statement when he was up for confirmation in 2003 to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. He said of Roe v Wade that it is, “the settled law of the land.” Would Scalia, Thomas and Alito vote to overturn? Probably. Would Roberts? Possibly, but it is doubtful. Would John Paul Stevens, Ruth Ginsburg, David Souter or Stephen Breyer? Very definitely not. That leaves Justice Anthony Kennedy. In 1992, Kennedy voted against overturning Roe v Wade. Justice Kennedy dissented from the Court’s 2000 ruling invalidating the Nebraska partial birth abortion ban. It seems probable that Kennedy would vote to uphold Roe v Wade. Therefore, especially while Sandra Day O’Connor was on the Court, there was never a majority available to overturn Roe v Wade. None of these facts that mblack1 has ignored, misunderstood or misrepresented are in any way obscure.
You wrote:
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Do you really think Sarah Palin has the power to overturn Roe v. Wade?
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She would have to be the deciding factor in the pick, if any, by John McCain, or have succeeded him,and have her pick alter the current balance. Then, a case would have to come up while there was a true conservative voice on the court. Then, Roe v Wade would have to be overturned on a basis that was wide enough to change current law. That’s a whole pocketful of ifs.
You wrote:
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This is the carrot on the stick Republicans use to get you to the voting booth.
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Ummm, no. The Republicans are offering far more than the far-fetched notion that Sarah Palin is going to somehow be influential in the overturning of Roe v Wade. The fact that mblack1 doesn’t see it that way does not make it so. In fact, based on what we have seen so far, it would be wiser to bet against the judgment of mblack1.
You wrote:
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There is no political advantage for Republicans to make this issue go away.
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False. As we all should have learned long ago, good policy is good politics. Folks like mblack1 will always try to persuade you that doing the right thing is somehow not the right thing.
You wrote:
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If abortion was no longer on the table, our leadership would actually have to look at the plight of the poor and problems with the economy, not to mention healthcare coverage, gender inequality and support for working mothers.
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Sarah Palin has done much to address the plight of the poor. She and John McCain have shown in the past their willingness to buck the system. Governor Palin has been great for the economy of Alaska. McCain and Palin have a plan for getting the economy back on its feet and cleaning up Wall Street. McCain has a great plan for healthcare. Sarah Palin will make an excellent example for the young women of America, because her whole life has been a successful fight for gender equality. Support for working mothers? If mblack1 were serious about that, she’d vote for one: Palin for Vice President in ’08!
You wrote:
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Stop wasting your vote on this red herring issue.
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Shall we take the word of someone who has, in so many ways, proven to be egregiously wrong on the facts? No. Shall we take the word of someone who is so obviously on the pro-abortion side? No. When your opponent tells you that you are wasting your time, should you listen, or make up your own mind, independently? Obviously, the latter.
You wrote:
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It will never change because powerful conservatives don’t want it to change.
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Folks like mblack1 want you to believe they have a crystal ball. Do you? Of course you don’t believe any such foolishness!