Dems Pushing Conflicting Messages on McCain

Think Dem’s have conflicting messages.
Read the previous blog post. McCain and Palin are denouncing “golden parachutes” and promising to end them while the goddess of Golden parachutes, Carly Fiorina, the layoff queen of Hewlett Packard, is their chief economic adviser and surrogate.

No more terrorist attacks on our buildings as the enemy will be taking charge of them shortly. In December 2005, Georgetown University accepted a $20 million donation from Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud to expand its Islamic studies department. At the same time, Harvard accepted a similar $20 million donation. Barack Obama has received moneys from a man to whom Mansour serves as an adviser – HRH Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal. Dr. Khalid al Mansour is a virulent hater of Jews and Christians and whites generally. And, do you really believe that your associations are not important. Obama associations are important—check out the facts, be informed before you vote and America slips away.

Poll shows Obama’s lead in NY at 5 points
By The Associated Press – 23 hours ago
THE POLL: The Siena Research Institute, presidential race in New York of likely voters.
THE NUMBERS: Barack Obama 46 percent, John McCain 41 percent.
OF INTEREST: The lead is down from 18 points in June, when Obama led 51-33 percent over McCain in a Siena poll. New York, home of Obama’s main primary opponent, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, is solidly Democratic, with 5.5 million registered Democrats and 2.9 million registered Republicans. The state has 31 electoral votes.

No conflict there, just an admonition to stay calm, but be aware that McCain like Hoover will wreck the economy. If ABC sees a conflict in those two points, its analysts have been drinking.

“On a day when Wall Street was melting down, Republican Sen. John McCain insisted Monday that the nation’s economy was “fundamentally strong,”
Hey if the shoe fits. I’m sorry but McSame is so out of touch he’s starting to remind me of a broken record…. “All is well Please remain calm”
And having a Palin one step away is just too much for me. I’m seriously thinking about moving to Canada should he win. How sad is that!

It seems that everytime OBUMA says something, he believes, from the heart, that gets a bad reaction,the next speech he tries to explain it away or changes what he says.
I really think he does believe there is nothing wrong with the economy. Plus, he agrees with the war and the way Bush handles things.
PRETTY SCARY….
Posted by: thetruth | Sep 16, 2008 12:34:30 PM

Debra: “Mike is right….tell me who you are with and I’ll tell you who you are.”
Exactly, and because McCain is with Bush, he’s the wrong choice.
Well, wait, McCain isn’t with Bush, except when he’s bragging he is, except when he’s saying he isn’t…
By the way, McCain supporters, anyone want to take a guess at how your candidate will stop golden parachutes, lol.

Hey, if you all want to pay $2,000 for my teen daughter (and millions of others) to go to college, and pick up my SS contributions too, by all means vote for Obama’s socialism with more government telling you to hand over your money for someone else. The Victacrat pary is NOT for me. Get off your a–es and pull a Palin….humble beginnings, college grad, marry high school sweetheart, PTA mom, City Council, Mayor, Governor and now hopefully the 44th VP of the United States.
Try it the good old fashioned way and quit with the hand outs!
McCain/Palin all the way!

This article is a study in bias. When is ABC going to quit cheerleading for McCain and Palin? It is getting ridiculous!!!!!
No, the markets are not sound and yes, the Democrats should not create panic with dire predictions. Yes, McCain sounds like Hoover. Worse, he acts like him.

People!!!!! THINK!
Look where eight Republican years have left us. Do you really want more of this misery?
Don’t believe a word out of John McCain’s mouth. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks.

George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy
was fine.
About two years ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 yr. high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%;
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high–14,000 +
5) Americans were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacationing
overseas, living large!…
But Americans wanted ‘CHANGE’! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic
Congress & yep–we got ‘CHANGE’ all right!…..
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;
2) Gasoline is now nearly $4 gallon and climbing;
3) Unemployment is up over 5%.
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION
DOLLARS & prices are still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure; and
6) THE DOW is probing another low~~11,300–$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS
HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT
PORTFOLIOS!
YEP , IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE!…AND WE SURE GOT IT!!!….
NOW THE POLLS SAY OBAMA IS GONNA BE ‘THE MAN’–CLAIMS HE’S GONNA REALLY
GIVE US CHANGE!!….
JUST HOW MUCH MORE ‘CHANGE’ DO YA THINK WE CAN STAND???…..

Debra, before you going throwing those socialism charges too far, care to explain how McCain plans to end golden parachutes?

Why would somebody like McCain, who has a wife that flaunts her wealth in front of everyone, with $312,000.00 outfits, care about the economy of the average American? “This old man, he plays dumb, because he has it made, and is very numb.”

Gene: “George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.”
You mean the first 7 1/2 years when people were being advised to take adjustable mortgages and when the Republicans were pushing for further deregulation?

Paul….GOOD ONE………..WELL SAID…

btw…my company told me a year agao that everything is fine and by Christmas we were in chapter 11…
GOOD ADVICE? notta

Since Democrats took control in 2006 gas prices have gone thru the roof, federal spending has gotten worse, Democrats have raised the federal debt ceiling – after promising they wouldn’t, and Democrats failed to deal with the growing housing crisis while they controlled Congress. Their lack of action has led to the market crisis and loss of consumer confidence we are seeing now. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have turned Congress into a laughing stock, it is time to get rid of these dead beat democrats for good!
Country first, McCain/Palin 08

formerhillary: “Ok…what happend to smaller, less intrusive government that both he and Palin have been pandering.”
Have they been? That struck me as a blast from the past. I didn’t know the Republicans were still pretending to be a small government party.
But undoubtedly if McCain was touting smaller government, some Republicans would believe it, even though the largest increases in government spending traditionally come under Republican administrations.
And as for the less intrusive part… well, um, sure… less intrusive for those who live a “correct” kind of life. You know, those who don’t want to go to the library and read any books that may be unacceptable to a Pentacostalist.

It is not cool to continuously call names on blogs. Democratic Party members are respectful enough to maintain either GOP, or Republican.
It reveals the true nature of a person when they begin their blogs calling nasty names and continuing the message of hatred and distrust all the way through, with no point other than a “mine is better than yours” view point.
Please find a way to rise above your circumstances, and stick to issues, not name calling.
Or is it simply that as you see your party leader doing, so shall you?
p.s.
I think that you know who I am addressing this to, so I will not redress you on a public forum.

Doug: “Gene, Thanks for the great post. Unfortunately democrats are blind to acutal facts.”
Man, the things you guy call “facts.” You really believe all our economic problems are a result of a) the last year and a half, and b) Democrats controlling Congress?
If so, I’ve got a bridge to nowhere to sell you.
How about this “fact” of coincidental juxtaposition. John McCain has been in Washington since the growth of 90 percent of our national debt, ergo its his fault! Lol.

“So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.” – Franklin Delano Roosevelt, First Inaugural Address. … FDR was dealing with the legacy of the REAL Republican Herbert Hoover, and his message can hardly be called “conflicting”. McCain does appear to be a new Hoover – spouting shibboleths but offering no real solutions – yet it is not time to panic. We can fix this if we act now and do the right things with sober determination. But if we fail – if we let those rule who foolishly believe the shibboleths to “stay the course” – then the Ship of State called the United States of America is in great danger of foundering upon the rocks of irresponsible indulgence of the very rich. Our sovereignty depends upon our choices now – even as it did in 1932.

Maybe McCain can have Palin walk out her front door and yell over to Russia for some cash to help the ailing economy

Maybe if Obama wants us to think economy in the tank, he shouldn’t be bragging about his 66 million haul…all they talk about is their big fundraising $$$$. He should chip in some of those big lib bucks…like the Streisand concert coming up where all you have to do is pay $29,000 a person to hear her and contribute to BO….they’ll bring in about 7 mill. Victacrats need to quit crying poor economy while bragging about all their doners…apparently they all dig down deep to donate B. Hussein.

Bottom line – McCain says he knows nothing about the economy, says the economy is fundamentally strong, and says he is the only one who can fix it.
Now that’s some straight talk, lol.

Why would anyone be suprised? This is what Democrats do. Report all the negative in the world to make it worse. A good economy is bad for democrats. Winning the war is bad for democrats. Sad to say, but anything that is good for the country is bad for democrats. They love high gas prices, food prices etc… They don’t try to help the situation. They try and make it worse until they are in office. This congress is the worst we’ve seen in quite some time. Bush hasn’t helped the situation with the war, but most of the blame should be at the feet of congress.
Posted by: Doug | Sep 16, 2008 12:41:50 PM
Doug, here’s some facts for you..
Senate:
49 republicans
49 democrats
2 independents (one is lieberman – republican)
tiebreaking vote: republican vice president.
House:
200 Republicans
235 Democrats
288 amount of votes needed for republican presidential veto override.
Who is in control of the congress?
So, you’re right… it is the fault of congress.. but since it’s been a REPUBLICAN congress for eons and the dems don’t have a veto-proof majority, the “blame” lies solely on the republicans. PERIOD

“Barack Obama received the second largest amount from the mortgage companies (Freddie and Fannie) of any member of Congress, second only to Christopher Dodd (the guy with the special rates). Obama received $126,349 of which $6000 was PAC money. The balance came from individuals. By contrast, John McCain received $21,550, all of it from individuals. Keep in mind, this list is from 1989-2008. Obama has only been in office since 2004. ” – OpenSecrets.org 2008
Who’s in the pockets of Freddie and fannie, in order:
1 Dodd S CT D $165,400
2 Obama S IL D $126,349
3 Kerry S MA D $111,000

left wing media at its best. why dont they explain what McCain was talking about as it does actually make sense. The fundamentals of the economy are sound. small business are still going and 95% of the population is working. our economy is growing (not decling hence no recession) and now today they announce that consumer prices are going DOWN. So something is still going right and the dems need to stop being so negative and get americans convinced that we can do this, we can get through this downturn

Debra-
Yeah, because god only knows the Republicans NEVER raise lots of campaign money, and CERTAINLY they NEVER do it questionably! Every time I read your posts, you lead off acting like you have a point, then just trail off into a rant which seems to be straight out of the McCain campaign.
Furthermore, who gives a f**k about pundits? I know that you and all of the others incapable of making intelligent and independent thoughts may think they’re god-sends, but wise up a little bit. Those people, all too often, are as slanted as possible on the issues, which is why they don’t talk about the REAL issues that much. They just take something that they know retards like you will latch onto and run with it.
God DAMN people, I sincerely hope that many of you aren’t like Debra. I want this election to be decided by informed voters, not pundits and their little avatars running around everywhere. Go read a book about both candidates. Find an independent news site and see what you can dig up. INFORM yourselves and make the best decision you can. We can’t afford another learn-about-him-along-the-way Presidency.

boy these blog headings are on overtime trying to patch up McCain

Lou: “The fundamentals of the economy are sound.”
Then why not double down? Go buy some AIG stock.

Nice post Henerson. But I am afraid they can’t think for themselves. The republican brain washing is the best.

Excellent post by Gene at 12:44! Why don’t Victacrats get it?

What Norman , Debra, and Mike all seem to be blissfully “forgetful” of is that over 90% of the bills submitted to the President have been VETOED. When you have a President who promises on every public forum he can that he will veto eac and every bill you submit, it’s pretty much out of the hands of congress and the senate. Face the PA(L)INFUL TRUTH. The person whom you , as a die-hard GOP member re-elected into the governing position of this country is a self-serving, self interest failure.
And I can’t BELIEVE anyone actually even believes that for the first 6 yrs. of this riduculous excuse of an administration, the economy was “fine”.
It was a gosh darn disaster.
Obviously you have forgotten that directly after 9/11/2001 the markets took a dive, travel came to a stop, and manufacturing came to agrinding halt, and our economy was in the “crapper”.
It has never gotten better, except…. for a few of the upper 2%. Maybe YOU are one of them.
This nation has been turning into an “us and them” for 8 years now.
It is sickening to see so many folks still waling around with blinders on.

Paul – your too funny ha ha ha ha
As i said, our economy is growing which means we are still able to spend on goods and services. I actually dont have money to waste on stocks (thank god). if i have spare money i use it on supporting the businesses in my community.

Lou: “I actually dont have money to waste on stocks (thank god).”
Sounds like this “fundamentally sound” Republican economy hasn’t been so good to you.

Sounds like this economic discussion isn’t a good one for the McCain folks. When they run out of things to say, we start seeing the posts about how Obama is a militant Muslim, lol.

Debra: the market is up this morning???!
“Something Stinks In The State of Denmark” but it is not Denmark but the U S A!!!
And what is rotten are the corrupt politicians and doing corrupt politics using the free market as toy to allow many companies to make sweet deals without the slightest security. The slogan of them is not “country first but “my wallet first”.
Iraq was for oil: Oil companies buy cheap and sell expensive: result record profits and 80 billion dollar surplus for Iraq in a war! And who is paying… we are… The same with mortgage crisis the lending companies … We are loosing more and more jobs and everything goes downhill… And people don’t want to understand the situation and will vote (because of a girl that can shoot a moose) for a guy who still believe that our economy is sound and that he has invented the blackberry without computer knowledge! Give me a break! Just for one time admit if Obama would be a white guy with a name John Smith you would vote for him in a heartbeat! IT is true isn’t it!?!

I know one thing….whatever is ailing the economy McCain does not know how to fix it….Why should he? He hasn’t had to sell one of his nine houses yet and his wife hasn’t had to downsize to $250,000 dresses yet..

Well, if the economy is in the tank, where is Obama going to get the money for all of his socialist programs? Today he said he was going to get everyone a job and straighten out Wall Street….wave you majic wand and speak with your golden tongue…egomaniac! Maybe he will get it once his anti-American friends buy out this country!!

Okay – nookly23 – push that scare button. That all you got? Who are these insidious, nefarious “Muslim” friends of Obama’s who want to destroy the U.S. and kill all Americans? Maybe you should advise the CIA, FBI, NSC, Homeland Security, and all other “intelligence” agencies we have in this Country. They might be interested in investigating your insinuations!!! Be a good American and inform them, why don’t you??

Paul well said
Debra Sep 16, 2008 12:41:10 PM, I do want to pay $2,000 for your teen daughter (and millions of others) to go to college, and pick up your SS contributions … more so than the trickle down economics of the McCain/Palin ticket where a top tier of rich Americans get richer and maybe your daughter won’t even have a chance to go to college or see one SS check.
Hey, I believe in investing in ALL Americans, not just a select few.
It seems Debra believes in the American Dream, only she doesn’t realize that middle class is disappearing because idiots like McCain want to give back to Big Oil and keep money in the pockets of the nation’s 10% wealthy who profit off of the rest of middle class Americans’ hard work and investment…and the result is the backlash we see today.
Spoken by a working mother of two with a Wall Street job that can’t even afford child care because I am being taxed more than the Big Business supported by the policies of George Bush and McSame and his Beauty Queen running mate.

“Why would anyone be suprised? This is what Democrats do.” — Ahhh, yes… and THIS is what Republicans do: when caught with their hands in the cookie jar, they blame their neighbors, their friends – even their baby sister – claiming “[X] made me do it.” Why has the Bush administration pursued a stupid war while letting real terrorists escape, eviscerated the U.S. Treasury through tax cuts benefiting the super-rich, and eviscerated all regulatory agencies that might object to the destructive and unlawful behavior of those same super-rich? Because “Congress made us do it!” It is time for an exorcism… of the Republican spirit of greed and irresponsibility.

Just because we’re not heading into a depression, it doesn’t mean that the fundamentals are “strong.” The fundamentals may be shaky or weakened or diminishing, which is what they seem to be. Look at the unemployment rate, foreclosures, etc. Jake Tapper writes, “Another (nonpartisan economic expert) said, “To which we might add health of job market, value of home prices and stock prices (which have the greatest impact on household wealth) and ability of wages to keep up with prices — these fundamentals are also not good.” [from Tapper's "Political Punch" blog] So, maybe you guys should read each others’ work before writing nonsensical columns like this one.

mfmros-
See, I have a hard time taking your post seriously, but it’s not for lack of effort on your part.
What I take umbrage with is the fact that you’re calling Obama and “egomaniac” for saying he can fix the economy and clean up Wall St. Now, I know I don’t need to tell you WHY I have issues with that, but I’m going to say it anyway, because it’s too good to pass up.
Yesterday during a speech McCain said he was going to “fix the economy” and “clean up Wall St.”.
SO, my dear boy, if it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander, and McCain is an “egomaniac”, too.
C’mon, stop making it so easy!

Mike, if you think associations are important, than you must be really concerned with the fact that JM is a friend of G.Gordon Liddy. In fact, it must really upset you that he actually appeared on his show several times, speaking as a “guest and friend”.
It must also really upset you that the Bushes have such close ties with the Saudis that they are private guest in each others homes.
Or….. is this just another one of “those Democrat spins”…

And the Majority Leader has What ? solution ??????

I don’t understand…to say that the FUNDAMENTALS of the economy are strong, I believe, means that the BASIS, the PRINCIPLES of the economy are strong. I happen to agree with this.
To say that our economy is in a crisis is not saying the opposite of the above. There are cycles to our economy, with ups and downs – and we are definitely experiencing a down. To minimize the downs, we can try to tweak things. But nobody in this election is entertaining the idea that we overhaul the FUNDAMENTALS.

I remember when Enron went belly up and the President of the company, before he was sent off to prison, met with the employees to tell them ridiculous things.
I was always struck by how plainly and correcting a young urban woman barely scrapping by put it when she assesssed the man. “He must be on CRACK.” Fundamentals Strong, what you smokin’?

The most basic fundamental is the national debt. 10 trillion and growing……fast. That’s $10,000,000,000,000. Adding 2 billion per day. That’s $35,000 for every man woman and child.

Pleaser tell me Mr McCain how you plan to correct the problems we have now in our economy???? I think since you have been part of the problem party responsible for these economic disasters you aren’t going to do much or stop much.

They can’t have it both ways. Where has Congressional oversite been on some of the problems? Obama supporters like Chris Dodd and others should fill us in on the housing and banking oversite committees. Where have Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid been on leadership for energy independence from foreign oil? Their leadership has failed to look out for the financial and housing markets.
It is not logical to blame the candidate of the other party for their lack of action on the energy crisis or the housing crisis. Greed and complacency have ruled the day.
Scare tactics will not work! They cannot have it both ways. It is all about getting a woefully inexperienced candidate like Obama elected. McCain has been fighting for reform. Let him lead the way for reform. We cannot afford to let Obama fill his way around all the important issues.
McCain/Palin ’08

THE MESSAGE IS PALIN, from McCain’s point of view! Beyond Palin, McCain eveoporates. It is a bubble though, and clearly opportunistic. IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE THEN in what McCain has done by choosing Palin as a running mate to a man who sells his soul to the devil. There is no “country first” here; it is all about “McCain first.” McCain used to tell us about how he opted for America’s “victory” in Iraq (a largely undefinable concept) than seeing its defeat. He said: “I’ll rather lose the nomination than accept defeat in Iraq.” It it was all too obvious then that McCain had no chance; because he seemed then to be losing, the statement in reality is not all that heroic and principled. Now McCain will rather win an election than border about the means he will use to achieve that objective.

It is not surprising that the Democrats are criticizing John McCain so intensely. After all, their own presidential candidate is very weak. With no executive management experience and no record of accomplishment, Barack Obama isn’t qualified to be president. In fact, when one reviews his resume, its is easy to see that Obama is the most unqualified presidential candidate in one hundred years. He is a product of the Chicago political machine. He only became a senator when his election opponent, who was ahead in the polls, got caught up in a sex scandal. To date Barack Obama cannot name two things he has done as a senator to make life better for the average American.

The Dems are getting desperate. How else can you account for all the lies coming out from them.

I pity American, i pity the next 4yrs, i wonderd what it will look like if MCCAIN PALIN finally came to power, American will beg for bread soon. i am not American but i love GREAT USA !! Please american put party diffrences and race apart and chose a wise and acceptable leader Think of ur future dont think of more wars. good luck as you chose ur leader but remainber both friends and enemy are watching you some will want you to do one more mistake so that Great American will become history.

If the Bush tax cuts that McCain wants to make permanent were to encourage people to invest in the stock market, why is everyone pulling out. Now is the time for them to put their money where their mouths are. Where are those people, who benefited from those tax cuts, putting their positive net cash flow back into the economy when it is needed most. Just goes to prove that tax cuts for the wealthy does not encourage people to invest in the economy. The Republicans had their chance to prove tax cuts for the wealthy increase investments in the economy. Seems to me that they are all taking their money and running.

For how long media will sell Republican stories ? It is so pathetic that media is not showing true picture of peoples life. Everyone who has job dont know whether they will be having jobs tomorrow. What is the mess that we have created so far ? I think we need change.

Wake up people. How can you let fundamentalists such as Gov. Palin push her ridiculous religious ideology upon the American people. The same person who has ZERO credentials to face the issues of Foreign Policy and National Security. Maybe God will reveal the plan to her and we will all be safe. And perhaps God will tell her how to fix our economy. What happend to separation of church and state – the fundamentals of this country. I guess since she lost Miss Alaska she intends to be Miss America at last…this is stupid.
The smart working women of today wouldn’t allow it … I hope

GENE AT 12:44 HAS THIS DEAD ON….READ IT.

Obama is barely ahead in NY & NJ….unreal!

Eddie – the USA will be great under McCain/Palin. Dont feel for us, just be inspired that the american people chose who they wanted, not who the world thought we should have – be it obama or mccain.

I pity American, i pity the next 4yrs, i wonderd what it will look like if MCCAIN PALIN finally came to power, American will beg for bread soon. i am not American but i love GREAT USA !! Please american put party diffrences and race apart and chose a wise and acceptable leader Think of ur future dont think of more wars. good luck as you chose ur leader but remainber both friends and enemy are watching you some will want you to do one more mistake so that Great American will become history.

IT’S TOO LATE FOR AMERICA. THEY WON. LET THEM HAVE IT. LET’S START OVER.
RESIST REVOLT RESIST REVOLT RESIST REVOLT.
WHAT LED TO THE CIVIL WAR???

Is it Obama’s trademark, “flip-flopping?”

Sharon,
I went to Lebanon and looked at the beautiful country, I was a guest for a “Christian” wedding oh and I drove to Hezbollah country to see some Roman ruins…I bought traditional garb for a souvenir and took many pictures in them. Guess I am a moslem too…or maybe I am educated and secure enough in my own beliefs to respect those of another country without actually being a convert…would you feel better if I would have had them all pose in American Flags?

REFUSE, RESIST, REVOLT.
WILL YOU ALLOW YOURSELF TO LIVE UNDER THE TYRANNY OF IGNORANCE, GREED AND MORAL HYPROCRISY THAT CONTINUES TO EMPOWER THE WORST OF THE COUNTRY TO LEAD AND TO DECIDE WHO LEADS.
YES, IF THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS PICK THEM THEN OUR ENEMIES ARE OUR NEIGHBORS AND NOT THE PEOPLE THEY SEND TO WASHINGTON TO DO THEIR NARROW-MINDED BIDDING.

Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev is like having Nancy Pelosi talk. The more the talk the more vote will come to McCain/Palin. Please talk some more Reid and ask Nancy to come with you. You are the two biggest idiots in the house/senate. The Democraps run the government and yet the blame goes to Bush. If this was the other way and we had a Democratic President and a House/Senate controlled by the Repulicans then it would be the House/Senate fault. You liberals need to know that you Liberal people have the most to do with the economics. When the House/senate was ran by the Republicans the do nothing President Clinton received all the credit. Funny how you liberals think. Clinton gets a dress dirtied and he gets credit for the economy booming.

I pity American, i pity the next 4yrs, i wonderd what it will look like if MCCAIN PALIN finally came to power, American will beg for bread soon. i am not American but i love GREAT USA !! Please american put party diffrences and race apart and chose a wise and acceptable leader Think of ur future dont think of more wars. good luck as you chose ur leader but remainber both friends and enemy are watching you some will want you to do one more mistake so that Great American will become history.

Stick to the fundamentals people, stop using ridiculous manipulations of the truth by the desperate McCain/Palin daydreamers….I bet you 1st graders could make better decisions than most repulicans lending support to such a desperate attempt at “changing” with a new face and the same old failing ideology. I guess it’s no surprise they had to take the cue from the only person that has suggested the restructuring of this government in the first place…OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Obama is barely ahead in NY & NJ….unreal!
Posted by: dl (the real one) | Sep 16, 2008 1:42:37 PM
Jews are never going to support an African muslim man who is strongly antisemitic.
Posted by: janetphil | Sep 16, 2008
you people are ridiculous. Stop spreading HATE already.
#1. Obama is not just “barely” ahead in New York. according to real clear politics, he’s ahead by 15 points in New York. That’s QUITE A BIT. In NJ, he’s ahead by about 6 on avg. That’s not huge, but is still the lead.
Furthermore, he is NOT an antisemite.
I am a WHITE JEW who is MIDDLE CLASS earning roughly 100K/year and i’m VOTING FOR OBAMA.

McCain is old. Palin is a joke. It’s okay to vote for a black guy, really.

Wake up and Smell the Coffee
The whole world is watching to see if a nation of people can lose their homes, lose their investments, lose their children in a dishonest war, lose their innovative spirit in just eight years, only to turn around and elect the same party into power. Tell me it aint so, America..tell me,please!!!

janetphil:
You should really be concerned about what you are spreading here……..You will be accountable for this…..

So – just WHAT WERE the Democratic House and Senate DOING for the past two years???!!!! Why didn’t THEY cath on to what was happening with Wall Street and all that greed – if they have all the answers now. This isn’t exactly NEWS! Why aren’t THEY working on it right now???!! Doesn’t this situation suggest they might want to put aside all those special interests and get down to what is really important??!!!

McCain says the fundamentals are the hard working 95% of the Americans. I forgot who said they were going to help those 95% of the people…Oh Yea, it was Obama for ’08.McCain and Palin live under a ‘golden parachute’.They don’t really want to take that away, because that would mean Sara would have to answer public questions.Religion, Race and choice are free under the constitution of America. McCain and Putin want to limit the constistution. Obama and Biden want to share the constitution. Not a hard choice for America, unless you wish the rich to become richer and still move business overseas. Don’t take freedom away. Vote Obama for ’08.

Georgia…FYI, from Newt Gingich and the contract with America in 1996, until the 2006 midterm elections, the Republican Party Dominated the legislative agenda in Congress. As the majority party, the Republican leadership used their procedural rule setting authority to deliberately, and very effectively marginalize the Democratic minority House Representatives and Senators. As a result for those ten years the Democrats were effectively powerless. With the Election of Bush in 2000 the Republican party gained unobstructed power in enact their agenda in its entirety. They lost that power in 2006 when the Democratic Party regained slim majorities in both the house and senate. Unfortunately the Democrat’s are powerless to get anything done unless bush is willing not to veto it. Only a 2/3 majority can over ride a presidential veto. At this time that will require many Republicans to defy their party leadership to vote with the Democrats. That has not happened and Bush has vetoed all legislation in the past two years that do not suit the Republican agenda. In short, those who say ANY of this mess is the Democrat’s fault, are lying plain and simple! The Democrat’s have been fighting the fight for “we the people” for several years now! Lets put blame were blame is due and totally condemn those who are lying to us in an attempt to “steal” power through deception and contempt of the American people. Obama may not be perfect, and Hilary or Richardson might have been better, but these Republicans are contemptible and must be “FLUSHED” out of Washington!!!!

Herbert Hoover is a good example. He sat back and let the second generation robber-barons do pretty much whatever they wanted. Pro-rich to the point that the entire economy collapsed

I want to know more about Sara and who writes her Xeroxed script. I’ve watched Obama get grilled for a year and a half, and have only heard Sara Putin get grilled only once.

Sorry for the typos! But not for the info that I have received. I know who Mc Cain is. And he did not buckle, his poor broken arms show it and his buddies know it who were there to honor him at the convention. Oh, our economy IS fundamentally sound, but we need Alaska’s oil to take away the money going to the middle east as much as possible, and deflate the drsin the speculators have caused. This was proven in house testimony. I approve of regulating vital industries, and think Mc Cain is not a total Reganomic, hands off advocate.
Get rid of Pelosi’s dictatorship, refusal to allow a vote on Alaska oil, now. I could care less about a damn Moose at this point.
The Dems have caused this mess too, and been the obstructioists.
Kerry by the way has a wife who is a banking family and dares to scream at Mrs. McCain because her dad bought a beer distributorship and a few houses.
And what about the Hypocrite Al with his huge electric bills and private jet.
What a joke the global warming pullitzer prize.
The whole soalrsystem is warming due to recovery froma massive palnetary explosion a few thoisand years ago, and not millions of years ago. The whole US wa ice a while back, due to obscuration of the sun. The planet was tropical, and polar bears did not rule the world.
Kerry is the poorest excuse for an American who ever lived and why do they keep him in? Because he brings home the pork to his state. BUT HE NEVER EVEN VOTED FOR BULLET PROOF VESTS FOR
OUR MILITARY. He has voted down every appropritaion nearly. Except he voted to put our kids in Iraque and then leave them without backing. He is no hunter, can’t kill a duck, much less dress out a moose. It is probably too late, and Iran’s demise will Propmt Russia and the communist world to nuke us next, and then who gives a damn about the housing crunch. Who gives a damn about John Edwards and Bill Clinto’s …around?

I guess that all of you people who want to criticize John McCain for saying that the principles of the American economy are fundamentally strong failed to realize that his proposition received strong support from someone who became a billionaire based on those principles–Mike Bloomberg.He stated, and I quote, “I do agree that fundamentally America has an economy that is strong” (New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg to Politico.com) So, those of you who buy into Obama’s faulty attack that McCain is with reality are just as delusional and partisan as Obama is. McCain has admitted that the blame can be equally shared by the Bush Administration, Congress and these financial institutions AND has stated that a bipartisan approach (the 9/11 style commision) is needed to solve the issue & prevent it from happening in the future. Obama, on the other hand, has been busy finger pointing–blaming ONLY the Republicans–and criticizing McCain for making a proposal. I ask you: where’s his proposal for addressing the issue??

GDP (which is the main measurement of the economy’s output) soared from .6 in the first quarter, to 1.9 in the second quarter of this year led by exports. The GDP plugging along in spite of the failing mortgage crisis, and corrupt wall st. investment banks is a testament to the strength and resilience of the economy.

To all reading hear – first read MikeMo1947 at 1:53 – it’s so true.
THEN – read all the posts by “sidml” – is this the kind of sentiment we Americans want to foster? This sh** is scary!
All of you, actually, all of US, better stop the BS of namecalling and come together to WORK together. We can have differing opinions and find some compromises without calling each other “enemies” for cryin’ out loud!
Sometimes, I feel the Dems and Reps are a divorced couple in a bitter custody dispute over their kids (we Americans) – and the ones who get hurt are the kids!

IF ANYONE EVER HAD DOUBT YOU NOW KNOW WHY THE REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST AFFORDABLE EDUCATION PUBLIC OR OTHERWISE.
THEY NEED THEIR VOTERS LIKE THEIR WOMEN. PREGNANT, BAREFOOT AND STUPID.

McCain – Bush – Lehman Bros circle of influence:
A Bush cousin, George Walker IV, joined Lehman Bros in 2006 to head the bank’s asset management business.
Jeb Bush joined Lehman Bros in August of 2007 per Reuters News story, although his exact position was not named.
The Miami Herald ran a story today stating the Florida government is holding $322 million of Lehman stocks and bonds in the state employees pension fund & Citizens, the state’s hurricane catastrophe insurance fund.
Both may suffer big losses which the FL taxpayers will have to make up.
John McCain was campaigning in FL yesterday and guess who was sitting in the front row, traveling with him? Jeb Bush.
A story here at Huffington Post today claims McCain’s campaign has received over $300,000 from top Lehman Bros executives.
So we have Bush/McCain/Lehman Bros cozy circle of friendship and influence and who gets to pick up the tab? The US and FL taxpayers.
That’s not change!

Having read a few comments here I must say I didn’t know people in insane asylums had access to the internet.

Right! And Reid can be compared to Harpo Marx. . . the fool.

Way to shill for McCain, Byron.
He is totally ignorant of Economics and is making a fool of himself.
Yet you decide that it’s the Democratic criticism of this fool that is worthy of reporting on.
Nice try, but Five Plane McCain is still going down in flames.

It is amazing what people will say and do to bring someone down to make themselves look good…I guess I would just like to know what middle class american can afford to pay 31G for Obama’s nice little fundraiser with Barbara Streisand..makes you wonder how bad off everyone really is. Or if he really does have our interest at heart or the ones who can afford to front him..It will be interesting to see the money made there..

At least the people contributing to Obama/Biden, even if at a sacrifice are willing to fund a campaign that does not rely on the interests of Lobbyists to promote the agendas of said lobbyists to the American people. I pledge to that any day…because that means my interest count!!!

I would like to share two well know sayings: 1) The difference between a recession and a depression is that in a Recession “YOUR NEIGHBOR” is out of work, in a depression “YOU” are out of work. And 2) “When they came for the Jew I did nothing because I was Christian. When they came for the Moslem I did nothing, when they came for the Hindu I did nothing, when they came for the Gypsy I did nothing, and then when they came for me I could do nothing because there was no one else to stand with me! Case in point, just because “you” do not have a problem today does not mean it is in “your” best interest to be cynical about the ever growing number of those whom have already lost their disposable income, jobs, health insurance home, car, life savings, retirement, families, …reason for living!!! After all, as sure as the sun will rise in the East, in time, “they will come for YOU!!!”

I see from all of these Republican posts that Winston Smith has completed his “re-habilitation” and is back at his post in the Ministry of Truth (aka Faux News). These people are infused with Doublethink.

Thank you Tiffany 2:11!

And the Republicans are stuck with Jessie Jackson this year.

i can see wall street from my house and it looks fine to me :) all is well, vote mccain/palin LMAO!

earthisnotflat must have xeroxed off Sara script.:)

You are a fool and politically stupid if you think that race or sex make any difference in politics.

Janet Phil doesn’t jsut hate Muslims,
she hates Jews too.
She is either an Islam etremist bent on blowing us all up and creating her own law, or she is a Southern BAptist bent on blowing up all the womens clinics and creating her own laws.
Janet Phil and Debra are just another example of why the Democratic party has to get voters registered, posters put up on all street corners, Democratic voter headquarters in each town, and blast their ignorance and hatred right back to whatever crazed existence they lead.

They’re saying not to panic, not because there isn’t reason to panic, but because if we panic it will get even worse.
No the fundamentals of the economy are not sound, but we must not panic either. We must do what we can with clear heads.

MCCAIN PALIN – GEORGE W. BUSH
INTERNATIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT
* I attacked and occupied two countries.
* I am the first president in US history to order a military occupation of a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* I withdrew from or abrogated more international treaties than any president in US history.
* I refuse to recognize the jurisdiction of the World Court.
* I refuse to allow international or Red Cross access to US prisoners of war.
* I no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* I took the world’s sympathy after 9-11 and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world, possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US history.
* I am the first US president to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the greatest threat to world peace and stability.
* I am the first US president to have the people of South Korea feel more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* I refused United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from its Human Rights Commission.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from its Elections Monitoring Board.
———————————————————————-
ECONOMIC ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT
* I spent the U.S. surplus and shattered the record for the biggest annual deficit in history.
* I set the all-time record for biggest annual spending increases, more than any other president in US history.
* I set a record for the most private bankruptcies in any 12-month period.
* I set the all-time record for the most foreclosures in any 12-month period.
* I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any country in the history of the world.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.
* I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any president in US history.
* I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
* I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
* I cut health care benefits for war veterans.

Senator Reid is not giving conflicting information to the tune of suggesting what John McCain said is true……..There’s uncertainty; and it’s not all in the heads of folks……
What we are experiencing is REAL!!!!
I think this is a dumb and frankly, a “no news story”…..
Posted by: shalom | Sep 16, 2008 1:52:45 PM
Don’t get your panties in a knot. Nobama is a fraud and has a better chance of being President of Kenya and this country.

Come on you DUMBOCRATS John McCain is going to solve our economic crisis by forming a commission to look into what caused the problems. And he’s going to start regulating the banks because whoever it was who was in favor of deregulation for the last 26 years is to blame for this disaster. Especially if he sat on the Commerce committee and was in charge of deregulation. And John McCain also invented the Blackberry when he sat on that committee you know, even though the Blackberry is Canadian. So if you want liberal economic solutions like the Clinton-era regulations and stricter controls on the economy to avoid these disasters, well starting today, John McCain is your man. And if you believe that, I’ve got a bridge to sell you in Alaska.

Harry reid suffers from Democratic Schizophrenia obviously. Mc Cain knows the problems lies with governmant waste, Democratice obstructionism. He has different view in some areas than Bush, but has supported the president on many things. So did Joe Lieberman who is one of the most honest guys around. Joe Knows something Obama has no clue on. He is fighting for the survival of his root culture, Israel. If American’s do not see how weak Obama is in this extremely vital issue, his perceived weakness which iddleasterners hope to use,Obamas slimey dealings in this campaign monies area, which are not made up, and his weakness in running upon the peacenic, head in the sand liberal philosophy, then God help America.
Amercian’s cannot isolate themselves from other nations, and America needs to ramp up it’s energy issue, become independant with Alaska oil, and vote in Republicans to help free this nation from the lunacy of excessive tree huggers, Congressioanal dictatior Pelsoi, and the Democratic socialist agenda. Ok tax the rich a bit more on their personal income, but leave corporations to employ us. The slow down in the velocity of money is directly due to the gasoline peculators squeezing the life out of every other business and pocket book in America. So, regulate it more if necessary. Mc Cain has differed on some of these issues. However the developement of better fuel efficiency, new technologies etc is already coming in to cool off the speculators, and the free market forces are the main stimulus of any good economy. Taxation and government hands outs (If anything is left after all the red tape)is not the answer.
While the Dems, have obstructed many of the administrations energy packages, and claim he vetoes everything, it is obvious that if you elect a president and legislators from the same party, you will get better results.
I say vote for a proven old man any day. He’s not going to croak tomorrow, and if he did I’d choose Palin any day over the lifelong pork Barrelers and
global warming whacos who care more about hopping mice, Moose tracs, and
the rights of our enemies than they do about the children and tables of Americans.
Why don’t we ask Al baby to give America a rebate out of his pullitzer Prize for all of the electric he uses in his houses. The hypocracy of these
do nothing, take your money and we know better than you Dems makes me want to vomit.

How come anyone who uses the term “NOBAMA” always ends up being a racist?

I appoligize to nh pragmatist, and any other Republicans, that Do wish, for a change in the White House. I just hear to many, of the Brainwashed individuals, who say they are Republicans voting for the same Bush policies. I just want McCain to be MOre clear on his changes, he wishes to make, and for Sara to quit reading the same vauge script.

probably because you are WHITE seth…

What did all you DEMs say to clinton when the dot.com’s went bust and our economy crashed ????

We need to use our troops, to clean up our own streets, instead of speanding billions for a War overseas. Whoever becomes the next President will have to face this problem, Bush put us in, and may not fix it overnight.

Seems strange that people like Harry Reid, who played a part in the Fannie and Freddie crash are lecturing on the economy. This is what happens when government interjects itself into the private sector. Are Dodd, Clinton and Obama giving back all the reform protection money Fannie and Freddie gave them. Thanks for looking the other way congress.

the fact is the democrats in congress have been much more FOR banking regulations… something the banks have VERY LITTLE OF… and hence, the problems we have today under republican control

America’s economy is fundamentally strong. Good riddance to greed peddlers of Wall Street. They brought us people like Jon Corzine.

In 7 1/2 years Republicans in the executive branch have more than doubled the national debt. It is now around 10 trillion. Someone is not paying their share based on their income. Now Reps want us to elect someone who did not have to ability to make Admiral. The Navy booted him to desk duty. McCain at times seems to have lost his dedication to honesty and integrity that most military officers believe are at their core.

In answer to your question, the fundamentals of the economy are not strong.
From Jake Tappers blog, the fundamentals include “such economic measures as interest rates, the government’s budget deficit, the country’s balance of trade account (relating to exports and imports), the level of domestic business confidence, the inflation rate, the state of (and confidence in) the banking and wider financial sector and consumer confidence.”
The reason there is no need to panic is because the world we live in now is not the world we lived in when Hoover was President. You cannot compare the two.

To hear tell, you Obamabots are all unemployed, no food, no gas, no home, no money, no nothing!! In my neck of the woods, people are jamming the xway in the a.m. going to work, our grocery stores are full of people, people are dining out, going to the movies, buying high ticket items at Sears, etc., driving big new cars…where are these towns that have bread lines and soup kitchens…I have not seen any! hmmmm, I must be on another planet!!

Bottom line – McCain says he knows nothing about the economy, says the economy is fundamentally strong, and says he is the only one who can fix it.
Now that’s some straight talk, lol.

To janetphil – Don’t get your panties in a knot. Nobama is a fraud and has a better chance of being President of Kenya and this country.
YOUR PANIES MUST BE IN A KNOT BECAUSE OF YOUR RACIST STATEMENT. YOU ARE NOT GOD AND YOU DO NOT HAVE THE LAST SAY ON WHO WILL BE THE PRESIDENT! YOUR STATEMENT IS STUPID AND RIDICULOUS. GET SOME COUNSELING FOR YOUR BLACK-HEART! IT WILL ONLY SERVE YOU AS A VEHICLE TO ETERNAL DAMNATION!

Even some Republicans in Congress are starting to distance themselves from McCain comments on the economy.
Just saw one who sheepishly said, no, he doesn’t think any administration should control private executive payouts.

Ah, I see the conversation is particularly heated and personal at the moment. Must be the Republicans are having a bad day, because I’ve noticed a pattern the two often go hand in hand.

How does Obama give 95% of peple a tax cut when less than 50% actually pay tax? Are we giving peple who dont pay tax a check instead? Is the plan to tirn the IRS into the socialist Income Redistribution Service?

Carly Fiorina, former CEo of HP, McCAin financial advisor, stated today that Palin is not qualified to run a large organization……….

ablanche08: “…the BO’s camp change tune to ‘she [Palin] does not have enough experience.’”
Do you have a quote to that effect, or are you just making stuff up, in true Republican fashion?
And to some extent, that’s a serious question, because I don’t remember Obama nor Biden saying Palin’s experience level disqualifies her.

Earthisnotflat, my point is that both parties share the blame. I am not an american, but I am aware that the status of US economy will always affect the economy of the rest of the world. Now is not the time to say who is responsible for what, that alone will not change the current situation. This is the time that you americans must put differences aside after the election, and work together. That’s all….

Paige: “Carly Fiorina, former CEo of HP, McCAin financial advisor, stated today that Palin is not qualified to run a large organization……….”
No she didn’t.
Well, I should hold fire on this one. Yesterday someone posted that Palin installed a tanning bed, and I got on that person, recommending we not make up stuff about the candidates – that was the Republicans’ job.
Only to find out she really did install a tanning bed in the governor’s mansion.

ablanche08 – since you repeated your post, I’ll repeat my question in response.
Do you have a quote to that effect, or are you just making stuff up, in true Republican fashion?
And to some extent, that’s a serious question, because I don’t remember Obama nor Biden saying Palin’s experience level disqualifies her.

Ivan Molina is right about needing a real change to the system.Both parties have made mistakes throughout the past, and now we need someone who will start a new beginning. The money troubles will not go away, with just one 4 year term, it will take many terms of change, to bring back the power to the people.

… do you guys work? really? I think you should be working instead of waisting your time here.. the economy needs you! go back to work!

earthisnotflat read Obama’s website. it talks about tax credits even for those who dont pay taxes. do your homework

How does anyone figure that the Pension funds and the jobs of these people are not going to suffer, too? Bush has said there will be no bail out for Lehman Bros. They like many institutions are caught in the mortgage crises where people who could not afford homes lied, and loose lending propped the home sales market which later got more squeezed in the pocket book by gouging of the speculators? So shall we do away with the free market and all become Commies? It is time to do more regulating, but not more socialism. I am sick of hearing about rich Republicns. There are plenty of hugely rich Dems. And we had a great economy during a large amount of the last few years. What goes up must come down, and managing economics has always been difficult. I say again that the market forces will drive the decline of gas gouging. Bringing more of our own gasoline from our own greatest purchase in History, and stopping excessive waste in government will correct and speed up the velocity of money troughout all sectors, instead of the gas gobbling up all. And by the way, the hatred of gas companies is rediculous. Congressional review put
the balame squarely on over speculation.
The Bill brought by Feinstein is helping to cool this off, but the answer is getting our own abundant supply while the demand begins to decrease. And people doing double duty with planned trips, public transpo, and
dthere are credits for the purchase of newer better cars. Hopefully this will increase poeles ability to participate in making our air better.
That is the main concern of emissions. Not global warming. The soalr systems was put in a deep freeze by major blow up of planets in our system before which the planet had been more tropical, and polar bears would have had a very small ice circle on which to live. This is fact not myth. NASA exploration verifies the truth of cataclysm which hit only one side of Mars, the moon, and other planets, created the the meteor belt, the ice ages, due to increased volcanic eruptions and lack of sunlight. It’s been ongoing melt back since.

If the media was at all neutral about Obama they would be all over the fact Obama was illegally trying to negotiate the delay of US troop withdrawal from Iraq in an effort to take credit for ending the war in Iraq should he become elected. Obama’s campaign denied this but it their own denial, actually confirmed that that is what Obama was actually doing. Where is the media on the story. It should be headline news. Obama all along was saying he wanted the troops out of Iraq like now, but was secretly and illegally negotiating with Iraq, Amir Taheri to delay US troop withdrawal. This is BIG.
Many were skeptical of Amir Taheri’s report that Barack Obama had asked Iraqi officials to delay a security agreement until after the elections, and the Obama campaign denied it—but their denial is actually a confirmation of Taheri’s article.
Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Taheri’s article bore “as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial.”
In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office, she said.

Leukevent – I am an independent that has voted in presidential elections for about 40 years. I have voted for both at all levels. I have NEVER given a political party money because it is used primarily to run dishonest commercials. At this point in my life I don’t see any difference in the two parties other than where they want to spend the money I earn. Taxes are necessary, but wasting it and losing track of it is irresponsible. I don’t think either of these candidates are ready to face our problems or can bring the two parties together to accomplish something. My only decision at this time is to vote against every incumbent because they were part of the do nothing Congress that has an approval rating of 9%. If they can only satisfy 9% of its customers, then they should be fired. There are both long term democrats and republicans in my state that I am voting against. If either party was really concerned about our problems, they would have already done it. Instead, they promise the next time they will solve the problems. I am not a republican or a democrat. I am an American that wants government officials that put this nation ahead of their own interests. They personally sacrifice to make this nation better for the next generation. Today, they are there for the perks and the power. They work for themselves and not for the taxpayers.

Carly Fiorina top McCain advisor not only said Palin can not run a large corporation like HP, but McCain is not qualified either…now that is the first solid fact I have heard from that campaign.

It is reported when Reid asked the BO’s camp fro financial helps to help other Dems in this election, he received a BIG FLAT “NO”. Poor Reid who had helped pushed Hillary out of the race for Obama’s nomination.

McSame will say anything you want to hear, and if says something you don’t want to hear, he will change it. Liar, liar, liar, liar, I can’t say this enough times. He has lost all credibility. Anyone who believes in this person should have their right to vote taken away. This man is a pandering old man whose day has passed him by. What do you want to hear, he will say it. Will he do anything? Hell no, he is a republican.

to niko,
I agree that we need to free our govt from lobbyists. That’s what I really respect Obama and Dean for on the Democrat side, and what I used to respect McCain for, until he went and hired a half-dozen lobbyists to run his campaign. They’re doing a good job for him, with all the attacks, lies, and political decisions, but they aren’t helping the country at all. TOo bad too because I once respected McCain. But fortunately if Obama wins it will be a really good move towards ethics reform. Even if he loses, making the DNC turn down lobbyist dollars is a huge reform in itself. So his candidacy has been a win-win for America.

Independent realist – did you see where McCain said he never really thought Obama was talking about Palin with that lipstick comment.
Yep, there’s “Republican straight talk” for you, lol.

The problem isn’t the economy persay, its the greed of WallStreet and the involvement of ASian/ME investors enhancing the greed.

JanetPhil women haven’t been waiting for 200 years to boast about an incompetant an unqualified woman to be the VP of the United States, you might as well ask Oprah Winfrey – she has more international contacts and is more respected and like by most women in America. An intelligent and greatly accomplished woman who started from true humble beginnings. Contrary to the “humble” middleclass upbringing that Sarah Palin was lucky to have.

Paul, if you don’t like what McSame says, wait a minute, he will change his answer. He is a real populist.

The most important factor in all this debate is the sad fact that Hillary Clinton was forced out of the nomination process. Regardless of the economic situation at present, John McCain looks more credible and prepared than Barack Obama. If Hillary had been the democratic party’s nominee, the whole equation would have been different. In that scenario (and the worst missed opportunity for democrats), Hillary would have been the best choice for the country. Right now, thanks to the incompetent and conniving democratic party leadership, McCain is the best choice we have for president of the USA. I’d rather have a Republican war hero who fought for my country as president than a democrat whose numerous questionable associations cast serious doubts on his character and judgement. I hope Hillary runs in 2012.

Jennifer – what the president does run is the executive branch of the federal government, and the simple fact is none of the four candidates have any experience with that.
Palin can claim executive experience, and its a valid point. She’s the only one that has been in charge of an executive branch, but she doesn’t seem to know very much about the executive branch that happens to be in Washington.
She actually said it was up to the Fed to decide bailouts… stunning ignorance for national candidate.

Hmmmm Congressmen have had lots of time to do something to fix the gas prices and the housing the bubbles—have they done so? No!! Have they even tried? No!!! It’s why I can’t wait till Palin gets in—-Has she tried to help Alaska’s economy? Yes!! Was she successful? Yes Has she cut taxes and in general helped voters? Yes, yes, yes!!! I am voting Palin, and I hope she cleans some of the rats out of Washington like she did Alaska.

Alec: “Regardless of the economic situation at present, John McCain looks more credible and prepared than Barack Obama.”
Don’t know how you figure that, but obviously its a subjective decision we all have to make.
For my personal decision, I’m watching McCain’s kneejerk, emotional reactions to everything that comes up, and getting a little nervous about the prospects of him actually being president.
The guy who doesn’t know much about the economy vowing to “fix” Wall Street and prevent golden parachutes? Let’s forget the former; does he have any idea what he would need to do to accomplish the latter?
And then let’s take a look at his reaction to the situation in Georgia. McCain actually found a way to make Bush look reasonable and measured.

McCain and Palin all the way!

To MIKE and DEBRA: Your heart is showing such unethical characteristics as becoming to someone who is NOT ABOVE being JUDGED. You have NEVER BEEN under Mr. Obama’s administration no more than you have been under McCain/Palin. Words that comes from either person’s mouth can be just as deceiving as your comments. If a person has been SCHOOLED intellecturally or scholastically in areas they chose to undertake and has scored above and beyond, THEY QUALIFY ESPECIALLY IF THEY CONTINUE THAT PATHWAY. They qualify more than a person who have just been around, doesn’t really have it down but just the jist of the situation, they do not QUALIFY as much because IT IS NOT AS DEEPLY A PART OF THEIR STUDIES as it should be. If I studied JOURNALISM and graduated with that degree; took on my speciality until I DECIDED to try something else. Well, my qualifications are not as well versed, practiced or in depths as someone who majored in it, practiced it from graduation as well as a continuation in dealing with others with it. In other words, they argued that Mr. Obama was not qualified where is degree was above or on the same level (other than Mr. McCain). Now, a NEW STANDARD, where Ms. Palin CAN LEARN ON THE JOB. Please, there are times when circumstances warrants this such as salesperson, coaching, teaching, etc., but NOT VP OR PRESIDENT. Be honest, she truly does not qualify. A child says, “I can ride the bike with no help.” In their heart, they believe that. When actuality shows up, it proves to the child that they really can’t. You cannot argue this against Mr. Obama ANYMORE! Ms. Palin is MORE OF A CHILD than Mr. Obama. Don’t be overwhelmed by a multitudes of words that DID NOT COME FROM THE HEART OF MS. PALIN but they came from someone’s pen. The shame of the situation is that she profess to be a CHRISTIAN. MATTHEW 12:23-Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. This is the saddest thing about people claiming to Christians, their character says different.

There will be many false profits before the return of Christ, and they are called Republicans

Sharon,;please refer to actual numerical fact.
see post by concerned citizen at 12:58.
Enough propaganda about commies,(by the way, Ethel Rosenberg was executed by a gov. that was on a “commie” witch hunt.
Seems that after the actual transcripts and interviews were read, the real “commies” were the ones who had lied about her)c’mon, you know the Rsenbergs, don’t you? They were Jewish.
they were called commies, in the 50′s, because people around them didn’t like their lifestyle.
They were excuted. Right here in the good ole USA.
So now, people like Debra and you and Mike, and gosh knows how many other haters are running around trying to connect dots between Radical Islamists
to peaceful Muslims.
If that doesnt’ do the trick, pull the “socilist” cord. See if you can get some scare tactics going that way.
And last , but not least, hey… Barack Obama is anti-jew.
Geez.
Take a longer look at your own parties affiliations before you dig yourselves any deeper holes.
WHAT PART OF NEO-CONS (NEO-NATZI CONSERVATIVE) do you not get???
Maybe you should ask Bush in a memo why they are having bbq’s withthe sheiks family at there palaces?

sandi: “McCain and Palin all the way!”
Hey, let’s stop the sleazy National Enquirer type speculation here ;)

Biden says that Obama’s economic policies will help the middle class buy “toasters” That’s right Obama’s economic policy of increasing taxes on US business will help destroy US businesses so the middle class can buy toasters from China and send all the US jobs over to China.

Dave
Yes, terrorists are very bad. But they are hardly the most important thing affecting the quality of life of the American people.

Dave: “The financial crisis we’re currently in doesn’t mean a darned thing if we’re destroyed as a country. Fanatical Muslims are bent on destroying us using any means possible.”
Dave, I wouldn’t worry about some foreign guys living in a cave so much. We have huge domestically created problems that far outweigh others… even terrorists.
In my opinion, we are in increasing danger of either a fiscal or currency collapse, and either would be more devastating that even a terrorist on U.S. soil with a nuclear device.
The biggest national security threat we have is our own public debt; which much to my chagrin is something neither candidate will say.

Seems like the Bush years were very, very good to the Obamas!! In ’96 they had no money…now a million dollar house and all the perks! Yup, the Bush years were good to them!

and the public debt just about doubled in the last 8 years under Bush, McSame, and the republicans

Mary, 4 more years of Bush taxes will start to make toasters look like a luxury that middle class Americans can’t even afford. As for US jobs the US has been losing jobs under the Bush Administration and sending our boys over to Iraq creating jobs in Iraq and funding the same programs that Americans need at home to get the Iraqi people and their government “on track”. Why doesn’t he run for office in Iraq along with McCain/Palin.
The increase in taxes to Big Corporations is not a mistake since it is the tax payer dollar that invests in these corporations in the first place! Wouldn’t you rather the CEO that makes 500K a year pay more taxes than the union worker that makes 50K

chattyway – Why do you repeat lies that were disproved so many times? Does it make you feel like a proud American? If it does, you have no knowledge of what has make our nation so great. Our nation is great because those before us sacrificed to make our nation better. They tried to throw off bad traits we had to make our country a better place for all. We did not become great because we lie better than other countries or have greater disrespect for our fellow citizens. Read a book about WWII and see how much Americans sacrificed to get us through troubled times. We made it through because we knew the problem was much greater than any one person or any one political party. I think we have major problems for the next ten years or more. This lying and back stabbing is going to make these problems get worse. We need to pull together for a while to get past these problems.

Jennifer: “Mary, 4 more years of Bush taxes will start to make toasters look like a luxury that middle class Americans can’t even afford.”
And then the Republicans will call anyone who wants to toast their bread a “whiner” who is suffering from “mental recession.”

Paul– News Flash! The country has been in a recession since 2002. Really since, right after 911.

Another 4 years…
“Thanks but no thanks”
Another republican term…
“Thanks but no thanks”
Try the same failed policies again…
“Thanks but no thanks”
More wars…
“Thanks but no thanks”
More economic failures…
“Thanks but no thanks”
More lies…
“Thanks but no thanks”
More turning a blind eye on health care…
“Thanks but no thanks”
More job losses…
“Thanks but no thanks”
More home foreclosures…
“Thanks but no thanks”
More tax cuts for the wealthy and none for ordinary Americans…
“Thanks but no thanks”

Well put KH!

They can’t stand us because our moron president goes stomping all over them like the drunken bum that he is. 4 more years, 4 more years, whoops, where did the twin towers go?

Jennifer, The CEOs you refer to are not stupid nor will they allow themselves to become “slaves” to Obama’s confiscation of their money. The CEO’s will just pass Obama’s increased taxes on to you and me, lay off people or move to greener pastures. When that happens look for HIGHER INFLATION followed by HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT followed by GREAT DEPRESSION.

Billy Bob is right we have so much more than the rest of the world:
1) Debt
2) Failing economy
3) Lies and deception to the world (weapons of ???)
4) Troops dying for a lost cause
5) Miss Congeniality can put that on her resume to run the the White House

Remember how Bob Dole wanted to take us back to the fifties when things were good?

Actually Obama is giving that money back to the people. And the CEO’s will not enjoy the inflated salaries that helped cause some of the mess we are in…with responsible government and holding the right people accountable everyone can benefit…why do you want to make the rich richer….and support a disappearing middle class…guess you are going to end up in tht 10% wealthy…

billy bob: “Credibility with who??? Please explain.”
I’ll take a stab at that one. We want to be global leaders, right? But we don’t want to lead by force and coercion, like the Soviets used to, right? We want to have an ability to influence others to, say, go along with our strategy for sanctions against Tehran, right?
So… our credibility is kinda important, right?

ind. real: couldn’t help but lol.
whoops, I did it again.
Ohhhh, yes, mental therapy is much needed.
lol.
Sick Puppies can be good for what ails the common perspective.

Jennifer, so you support the Govt. telling companies what they can pay their CEO’s??? That sounds like communism to me. What if you move up in your company and the govt. steps in and says sorry no raise??? You would be OK with that???

they can pay CEO’s what ever the stock holders are willing to bare. We then need to tax them at the 90% rate to get things back into perspective of reality. Whoops, now there are two wars.

billy bob: “Jennifer, so you support the Govt. telling companies what they can pay their CEO’s???”
Um, billy bob, you do know the only campaign to say it will control executive payouts for private corporations is the McCain campaign, right?
We’re all waiting for the details, but its McCain who mind-bogglingly said he would end golden parachutes.

The democrats will just tax us some more. What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common? Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961; Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954; Cincinnati, OH (3rd)…since 1984; Cleveland, OH (4th)…since 1989; Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor; St. Louis, MO (6th)….since 1949; El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor; Milwaukee, WI (8th)…since 1908; Philadelphia, PA (9th)…since 1952; Newark, NJ(10th)…since 1907. Einstein once said, ‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.’ It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats — yet are still disadvantaged.

Paul, Credibility is a two way street. We as a Nation give far far more than any other country. Some countries appreciate it but most do not. We have been fools thinking the rest of the world thinks like us, they dont. The Russians are going to oppose anything we do to iran so I dont understand your point. Lets do what we have to do and i am sure the other countries will forgive us as soon as they need somthing. Thats realistic diplomacy.

I have not said that I support caps on salaries. However, the mismanagement of investor money which have led to government bail outs that you and I are paying for is not the solution either. The inflated salaries are only one example of mismanagement. Therfore, McCain/Palin is more of the ssame and the same sucks. Speaking to you today from Wall Street the pedunk place I work on.

Bill, you aren’t paying attention, McSame has already said that it isn’t about issues, its about personalities. So instead of talking about real issues, he makes up issues.
Whoops, is this mic on???

Jeniffer, is that the best you can come up with. By the way i am glad you are more cosmopolitan than I am. Great argument.

John Kerry :
a true decorated war hero, who never wrote letters for the enemy, who never was offered and an early out, who was working one of if not the, most mind-f—-g of all positons in V.N.
Got “swiftboated” by a group of guys who call themselves veterans, but it turned out, the majority of them never even met J.K.
And once agin, if anyone wants to blame a “democratic congress”, then they need to look at the actual numbers.
see concerned citizen post @ 12:58.
J.K. saw the design flaw that the initial vests had in them, and saw how much money ws being funneled into this corp. he questioned not only the quality, but the amount of cost , and voted no. Turns out, those vests couldnt’ stop the armor piercing shrapnel that comes out of the ieds.
Instead of requesting for the mney to be funneled to private corps. taht get massive military contracts, and produce slowly, and poorly made product, JK chose to ask for better armor plating on the tanks, and weapons with a better glide and faster repeat.
You are such and idiot.
Sheeple shouldn’t vote.

Jennifer, do you even know why wall st. is called wall street?

Why are you all so afraid of your taxes going up? You elected a president and a republican congress who spend money like drunken sailors to the tune of 4 TRILLION dollars. Who do you think s going to pay that off, and with what?

Paul, lets play on words instead of talking about the issue. Credibility can and is a one or two way street. I am glad we have that settled, I would not have been able to sleep tonight.

T- Are you saying that the american people need to vote for the smartest and brightest? What in the hell is wrong with you?

Why do republicans hate the constitution, is it because it gets in the way of their governing the country the way they see fit? How many laws were changed because bush could do his job with the rues that were in place for some 200 years. See what happens when you hire no nothing morons. Whoops there goes the surplus

well you have a pig with lipstick, maybe you are telling us that the republicans will be walled out.

sure they do, and see you couldn’t help yourself, you are talking to me again

jock59801 & Paul
You seem to miss the point. Calling terrorists of any ilk “very bad” dismisses them as something akin to a common cold. To them You are less than human and removing Your head from Your body with a dull, rusty knife is better than You deserve.
Fearing an economic collapse worse than a nuclear detonation is, to me, unfathomable. A single nuclear detonation anywhere in the US would defeat us. It doesn’t matter where it happens, that area and anything downwind will be unhabitable and unusable for several lifetimes. That is worse than any financial crisis. Should the country somehow survive such a scenario there would be no one coming to our aid. Rather there would be such a stampede of people coming to finish us off that they’d have to stand in line. “Quality of life” doesn’t mean much when there’s no life.

The fundamentals are strong if there is a collective belief that they are strong.
There is no consensus yet on the collective belief.

Billy Bob are you going to tell me the Sky is blue on most days and humans need oxygen to breathe. What is your point? Oh, is this you immitating the speeches by McCain/Palin just empty words and fun tales to entertain, no substance no relevant truths?

No Independent realist lets keep voting for the most dump, stupid and ignorant like McSame/ Palin who doesn’t understand Economy and is out of touch with the people. duuhhh !!
Obama/Biden ’08

Jennifer, All the economic problems we are facing now are the fault of the Democrats who took over Congress two years ago including, higher gas prices, higher unemployment and the failed housing market. Obama is against drilling for new oil which would lower gas prices. Obama is in the pocket of Fannie and Freddie. Obama is number two in receiving campaign contributions from Fannie and Freddie. Higher unemployment can be traced to the higher minimun wage bill that forced a lot of businesses to lay of more people due to the higher cost to run their business. Money does not grow on trees you know unless you are an Obama kool aid drinker and do not understand basic economics.

Alec from R.I., Do you honestly think the tone of this election would any different if Hillary was nominated? C’mon, the Republicans would have been skewering her left and right with all the scandals from the Clinton-era. The experience factor would not have been raised but we would have been re-hashing everything negative about the Clinton years. To think Hillary would have run a better campaign is wishful thinking…

Mary, Mary, Mary, This is too big to be caused in the last 2 years, and you know it. Did you know that the oil companies export gasoline to other countries from the US? Do you really think oil companies are not going to put their oil on the open market and sell it to whom ever will pay the going rate? What makes you think the oil will be for us?
Whoops, call the chinese, we’re out of money

T and Independent. Another Obama lie, McCain never said he did not understand the economy. McCain said he did not understand the economy as well as he should. Obama does not understand the eoonomy period. Obama thinks he can increase government spending by a trillion dollars and pay for it by increasing the taxes the top 5% which would only account for 10% of the revenue needed to fund his TRILLION dollar programs. Seems Obama is the one who does not understand the economy very well

Obama(Ayers/Wright/Rezco)/Biden speeches are just empty words and fun tales to entertain, no substance no relevant truths !!
McCain/Palin 2008

Mary speaking of basic economics minimum wage increases allow for more discretionary spending thus putting the money into the economy thus stimulating the economy. If people can not even make wages to support themselves they become a burden to the government…and you have more money going into social programs…etc. Minimum wage increases to these big companies with the Bush tax breaks should be able to afford this. Higher prices and higher food prices and higher prices for finished goods produced by the big companies (with the tax breaks) are deferred to consumers. If people can’t pay the prices and put money into the economy doesn’t that translate into a slowdown…recession…etc. Therefore, I do not understand your “simple” economics…

McSame has admitted his lies when asked if Obama called Palin a pig. Rehab is working for McSame, first step is to cleanse yourself of your lies.

Harry thanks for proving my example of having nothing to say of your own and trying to use my own words in your favor…
McCain/Palin can’t even make their own statements

Gary, some of you represent the white devil remark

Hooossein is dead, we killed him in the wrong war. Whoops, which way did they go?

Mary, republicans always say that, and they are alway wrong. I was told by my father-in-law that a poor man will never give you a job, obviously he did not notice that a rich man won’t either. He will just out source them. Whoops, where did my job go?

Chattyway, independent economists have said that if the McShame tax cuts were put in place we would run the debt up by another 1.2 trillion dollars. That will make it an even 10 TRILLION in the whole. See that you are a republican, this must be ok with you.

As people realize that McCain/Palin aren’t answering and discussing the issues that matter and realize that McCain/Palin policies are almost no different than Bush’s policies their numbers will be going down in the polls.
Obama/Biden ’08

Sarah Palin calls her self a pitbull with lipstick but the Republicans, the McCain camp and Sarah Palin herself are afraid to let the media and the people ask her questions about the issues that matter. That’s why her first interview was a disaster. Although they tried their best to prepare her for the interview to minimize the damage she failed. It seems to me that she is more a puppy with lipstick than a pitbull with lipstick.
Obama/Biden ’08

Gary you little white devil you. Hey are you a fan of Savage? sounds like it

Harry Reid..Hah! What are his disapproval numbers?

McSame/Palin speeches are just empty words and fun tales to entertain, no substance no relevant truths !!
Obama/Biden ’08

Independent you little devil you. Hey are you a fan of Wright/Ayers/Rezco? sounds like it

McCain did an excellent job in his speech on economic crisis – calm / reassuring / confident
Obama did a horrible job in his speech on economic crisis – doom / gloom / failure /total collapse / The Great Depression.
The rookie Obama failed again in a crisis – using fear and putting panic in the hearts of America that could cause damage beyond repair – runs on banks.
OMG – please America see how Obama was acutally excited over the bad news – so he could use it to get elected – this man will destroy America for his own self interests.
http://www.strata-sphere.com has an excellent article about how Obama handled the economic crisis:
Obama’s Doom & Gloom Fiasco is Borderline Treason.
Read the article – it is a wake up call. Obama could have created a panic and a run on the banks and totally destroyed our economy and our country. He is a rookie – he does not get how to be the leader of this nation.
OMG – this man is dangerous -

Gary – Not as much as I am a fan of out of control spending, attacking the wrong country, failing banks, wealthy businesses hiring illegal aliens without restitution, republican congressmen taking bribes, or fondling young men, or looking for a little in the men’s room, or hiring a horse show promoter to run FEMA, or giving tax subsidies to the very oil companies that are raising gas prices over $4 bucks a gallon. How about you?

Sam, you are absolutely correct, it is someone else’s fault! What in the hell were the american people thinking about voting for Democrats after the fine job the republican were doing!

Senator Reid knows his puppet Obama is going down in the polls so he’s out scarring the American people about John McCain. Who’s been the leader of the congress for the last two years and stopped any oversight of Fannie Mae? YES that would be you Senator Reid! You can make all the comparisons you want but the American people will choose John McCain because they trust him more than the untested flip flopper Obama.

But of course, anyone that listens to all this noise coming from either campaign or especially their surrogates, has lidkely already made up their mind a long time ago but enjoys their red meat meal everyday. What is far more important than listening to these sound bite idiots is to study the record of both candidates. Furthermore, voters have to be smart enough not to focus on anything coming out of the media. The media is been openly operating as a surrogate much like moveon.org or any other bias financial backer.

Let’s talk next week when the Palin bounce stops bouncing, and the Obama bounce on the economy takes hold. There is only one poll that counts. Think about it, there are 11 million more registered democrats then there are republicans right now. Can you say.. Obama by 11 million votes?

Keep wishing and dreaming, the ride is coming to an end, and you and the destructive republicans are going to have to get off. You have no more money to pay for the ride. Whoops, what happened to my 401k?

Hard to argue with facts, but then they get in the way of the truth for McSame.

Only billionaires can save us now, let’s make them pay off the debt, and we will call it even.

Well Carrie, my work is done here. It is time for me to ruin other republican’s day. There are many other blogs out there to terrorize republicans at!
4 more years, 4 more years, whoops, where did my country go

Check this out, the “Pagans for Obama” are going to have a pagan ritual tonight to try to turn the campaign around for Obama. They even have their own area on Obama’s website. You couldn’t make this stuff up. http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/PagansforObama

Gary, your description of dem corruption sounded bad until I considered the filth, lies, outsourced war and wall street deregulation that the Republicans pulled off for the last eight years. I’ll take a Clinton misusing his cigar any day, it doesn’t cost me my life savings or kill my relatives.

They say that during the Clinton years almost every square inch of exposed surface in the Oval Office was covered in a thin film of ejac ulate. To this day, they are still finding small traces of Clinton’s DNA.

Some Patriot Republican idgit wrote: “Are you worried what the French think about us??? The rest of the world cant stand us because we have so much more than them. Credibility with who??? Please explain.”
Oh yeah, they’re “just J”, and the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom, and immigrants are taking all the jobs and that’s why the economy is bad, and women geet raped because they ask for it, and wanting to end the war proves you don’t love ‘merica (luv it or leave it), and liberals are causing the moral demise of the nation with their queer lover baby killing mentality, and the dems obviously messed up the economy when they took congress in 2006, and Iran needs nuked, and who cares what the French think, they don’t matter, like the rest of the world, and I’m a typical ignorant bigoted Republican who is going down to the new rainbow of people who will finally take over America and put some common sense into what we do instead of getting angry over lies they tell us through the lapdog media. I’m so sick of seeing you disappoint me America, stop letting the dumber half run our country, please, I live outside the country for years and know what the rest of the world thinks, and it does indeed matter. Keep letting the greedy bigots at the wheel, and you shall inevitably fail.

Hear, hear Edward, well put!

McCain admitted he did not know much about the economy in the Florida primary, so I don’t think he knows much on what to do to fix it. Obama is a junior senator who in his attacks against Palin says that has managed a campaign budget. So, what does that mean? How many fund raising events will it take to bring in the billions needed to cover Freddie and Fannie? In other words, neither has a clue. All we get from these two are “I’m a Maverick” and “Do you want 4 more years of Bush policies”. What we need are leaders and not people who resort to naming calling like 5 year olds. Both parties are complicit in this problem. Greenspan is one of the real chief architects of this problem. He was appointed by Reagon, re-appted by Bush Sr, re-appted under CLINTON (yes DEMs and near the end of the Clinton years is when house prices started to climb at an inflated rate), and re-appted by W. Greenspan provided this great pearl of wisdom in Feb 04. Go out and buy ARM home mortgages and not long after that rates started to reset. We had the house and senate controlled by both parties in the last 10 years while this monstrous housing bubble built up and burst. Both parties allowed this problem to grow and grow all the while turning their head to the real problem. Now we have two candidates for president that have no clue about what to do. Instead, they call each other names and will do nothing. We need people to use their brains and realize that both of these candidates really aren’t change but the status quo. Vote 3rd party. They have been telling the truth about the economy for years.

McShame = lies, period! Just go to factcheck.org, I dare you

First Obama is the black JFK, then Al Gore says he’s a black Abraham Lincoln. Now this little runt Reid compares him to FDR? What a frigging joke! He’ll be the black Jimmy Carter…THAT’S what he’ll be!!

The dems are evil. All they are, are the JEWS and their PHARISEES. The worst part is, the dems really don’t care about Jews! The CEO of the DNCConvention, Leah Daughtry, a pastor and proponent of Cone’s BlackLiberation Theology is racist, anti-white, proAfrica, anti-American and anti-Israel.

why does mccshame. need palin he was in wash dc aggree with all bush policys.

Fact: Over the last 100 years Democrat Presidents have resided over stronger economies than their Republican counterparts. Fact: Over the last 20 years (BUSH/CLINTON/BUSH) the Democratic President resided over far stronger economies than the Republicans. Now, McCAIN says that he really doesn’t know much about the economics, then says that the economy is fundamentally strong, then his economic advisor says American’s are a bunch of whiners. The oversight of the financial markets McCAIN says he wants is directly opposite of what he and the GOP has supported over McCAINS tenure. He favors deregulating industry.

Most independent economists favor Obama’s economic plan over McCAINS.

Democratic House + Democratic Senate + Sleazy “Community Organizer” as Commander in Chief = more entitlements for the undeserving, more businesses leaving the country, drivers licenses for illegal aliens, more frivolous lawsuits leading to higher medical costs, USA becomes world’s biggest banana republic, and lots of happy Al Qaeda members. The Democratic Congress has been the controlling party for almost 3 years – hasn’t it been such a blessing?

NOOOOO MCSAME PLEASE!!! We dont need another Hoover in the Whitehouse who thinks the Economy is Fundamentally strong when actully in fincial crisis! McCain = 3rd term Bush!

George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy
was fine. Are you kidding me?
Absolutely not true. No way, No How. First 911 was a huge set back. I don’t think anyone would argue that after 911 the economy was “fine”. Then BUSH took credit for “putting more Americans in homes than at anytime in history”. If you are going to take personal credit for getting people into homes (through sub-prime mortgages and other shaky deals) then you have to take the blame for the largest number of foreclosures since the great depression. Congress has not passed one single law that has added to the current financial condition we are in since taking control from the GOP. Just the opposite the GOP and the president block measures to reform the banking industry.

Worse are those of you who have a nice comfortable understanding, like:
“Democratic House + Democratic Senate + Sleazy “Community Organizer” as Commander in Chief = more entitlements for the undeserving, more businesses leaving the country, drivers licenses for illegal aliens, more frivolous lawsuits leading to higher medical costs, USA becomes world’s biggest banana republic, and lots of happy Al Qaeda members. The Democratic Congress has been the controlling party for almost 3 years – hasn’t it been such a blessing?”
That’s your version of reality, of what’s going on? I almost envy your blithe ability to own a simple horror tale, and an opposing fairy tale. Almost, but who wants to live in such illusions? Isn’t it better to always struggle toward truth? I don’t mean the truth constructed from the simple pieces they give you to play with, I mean the delicate nuance of blending history and surprising facts and seemingly unrelated events to really see the world in a somewhat realistic and truthful light. Every nation is telling its own fairy tales, not one of them actually true. Blind, blind, blind to the bitter end…

Democrats speak with forked tongue.

Trusting McCain with the economy is like chickens trusting Colonel Sanders with their health care”,,,,,
Posted by: pieceof cake | Sep 16, 2008 1:04:17 PM
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That’s hillarious! Mind if I use it?
I think that a chicken with Colonel Sanders might be safer than we are with McShame.

Shame, shame McShame. You think you’re so great sitting in that prison in Vietnam. Why don’t you do something valuable with your life? Barack was a community organizer helping blacks get welfare and free housing in Chicago. Why don’t you do something positive like that? Shame, shame McShame.

Prem, Are you from another country? Why are you interested in the US election?

Don, wrong, try counting U.S. territories such as Peurto Rico etc and see what number you get, kook.

CARRIE aka Chelsea, I don’t know what you’re smoking, but Clinton lost millions of jobs for us when he signed Nafta. Millions in wages and the guy pushed and pushed until Nafta went through. This among so many other destructive things. He was one of the worse presidents this country has ever had.

To someone’s question on my nationality my answer is I am an american citizen who has voted for Bush last time.Hope I answered your question.Now you tell me if I should be interested in elections.

Ok Obama-ites. So if the country has never recovered from 9/11, do you really think that 9/11 was due to Bush being President?
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I’m not an “Obama-ite, but I need to answer this question. Y-E-S, it is all BUSH because that’s what real leaders do, they take responsibilty! The buck stops here, not how do I pass the buck. BUSH was on a month long vacation just before 911. He was briefed on the dangers. He was elected to office 10 months before 911. There was intel that “foreigners” were learning to fly planes but not land them. etc. etc.
Could Clinton had done more, probably, Could George H. W. Bush had done more, probably, but none of this was done on their watch.

Not conflicting at all. You might think someone is a bad driver, that doesn’t mean you insist that they’re going to crash into a family of 6.
1st, Reid warns that McCain is a deregulator(a label that McCain wears proudly), and has no clue about the state of the economy. McBush is making statements close to verbatim of Herbert Hoover, and adheres to the pre-New Deal policies that kept America luke warm for the first 150 years of its existence.
For the 2nd point, he’s telling people not to panic. For one, it’s a bad idea to panic in any situation(duh), and 2. Herbert Hoover and his myopic economic view came around before the New Deal, the FDIC and all those other “evil” commie-nist programs that have kept another great depression from occurring. Sure, the GOP has been trying to dismantle these programs since Goldwater, but for now, it is largely intact.
Whether Reids’ 2 views are right is up to history to decide, but they do not conflict.

Ed- “Indevoter, I have read all your posts and I think Emanuel is about to call you a “marxist”, which I think he defines as disagreeing with the way the American government has been run for the last eight years, but I think actually means you don’t agree with a free-for-all market economy where the rich rob the public coffers and rape the citizens in their sleep.”
Isn’t it funny that “folks hate America” because they don’t like the ways it’s been run for the past 8 years, yet they claim to love America while hating the way America has worked since the New Deal?

Indevoter- “McCAIN will raise taxes. You better believe it.”
Not true! He’ll just keep borrowing the money from our kids while fools continue to drink the tax cut koolaid…

Sorry RobSolf, but I don’t quite understand what you mean, call me obtuse but I need your point explained in more certain terms. If you are saying that conservative Republicans claim to love America but actually hate the way the system has operated since the establishment of the New Deal policies, then I get your point.

“Sorry RobSolf, but I don’t quite understand what you mean, call me obtuse but I need your point explained in more certain terms. If you are saying that conservative Republicans claim to love America but actually hate the way the system has operated since the establishment of the New Deal policies, then I get your point.”
Yep! That’s what I meant.

The best way to stabilize the economy and avoid recession is raising taxes. less money in the consumers pocket is just the ticket. Speaking of tickets.
Obama ’08, Baby

RobSolf, I was thinking about it and it seems to me that much of the New Deal policies have either been dismantled or they are under siege even now. As of late, we seem to have been privatizing and outsourcing to the detriment of many and the benefit of the few. Vouchers for schools will essentially dismantle public education under the clever jingo “parents’ choice”, and the same is proposed for retirements (then watch the privatized retirement fund evaporate on millions of trusting savers), and many other areas that once gave a government backed guarantee to citizens has disappeared or is disappearing. And it actually comes down to bidnis and profit, that’s what’s behind it. Did you know test preparation companies have seen at least a five hundred percent increase since the NCLB Act? All that act did was force rote memorization tests onto children and offer billions to private companies; outsourced education, outsourced healthcare, outsourced prisons, outsourced wars, it’s all about bidnis and profit, to the detriment of most. It hasn’t worked, and letting the reigns loose like this has gotten us into an economic meltdown from the greed. McCain is right about that, but he let it happen, voted with his party and did not point out the dangers of all this privatizing of our commonweal. Which nobel-prize winning economist said that “Government is merely the shadow of big business?”

Harry Reid has the gall to bad mouth anyone about the economy? Does he actully think we’re dumb? So, what has hee been doing in Congress (with a majority Democrat, by the way) for the past couple of years? He and Pelosi shares a bigger blame than anyone else. He better lay low and keep his big mouth shut!

Has AGE become more of a taboo than RACE? Why can’t ABC talk about McCain’s age? Find me a 72 year old who says they are just as sharp and energetic as they were when the were 46 and I’ll show you a liar.
McCain is too OLD! The seminal moment of his life was being shot down, captured and tortured over 40 years ago. Apple computer didn’t exist, Al Gore hadn’t invented the internet yet, Music was produced on 12″ albums, PCR – Polymerase Chain Reaction (fundamental to DNA sequencing) hadn’t been discovered yet. Is this the man we want us to LEAD us into the FUTURE?

How can anyone support a vice-presidential candidate who kills defenseless animals and has a retarded kid. Ick

Hey Joe, I think age is not near as important as policies, and yes, there are many an eighty-year old who are wise and energetic– not that I think that describes McCain, but I think you are being unfair to exclude someone based on age, its ageism, just like racism or sexism, so we should disregard his age and hang him for being from the Republican party while trying to distance himself from the same gang helping him get into office. Maverick? That was a TV series, but it ain’t John McCain. Does he think I’ll fall for the Mr. Smith and Mrs. Palin Go To Washington Scenario? Not. It’ll be business as usual, and you may be sure the policies will remain stoutly Neoconservative Republican. The Republicans proved that with their quick brushoff of Ron Paul, who is actually what Republicans are supposed to represent.

The Freddie and Fannie collapse are the biggest scandal of the last two centuries and ABC and the Obama kool aid drinkers are concerned about “tropper gate” unbelievable Republicans tried to reform the obvious problems with Fannie and Freddie but got out lobbied every time. Why? because Obama and the Democrats have been on the take. Just look at who the main recipients of campaign contributions from Freddie and Fannie have been sent to. you guessed it. Dodd and Obama.
Obama has never stood up and tried to enact any reforms to Fannie and Freddie good time deals in Congress. Consider the fact that Clinton got a bill passed in Congress that allowed credit risky loans that ultimately led to the failures of Fannie and Freddie. Obama did nothing to reform Clinton’s bill despite all the warning signs that pointed to the fiasco that now puts the tax payers on the line for paying off billions of dollars bad loans.. Not only that, most of the problems associated with Freddie Mac are due to one of Clinton’s good buddies,Franklin Raines, who walked away from Freddie Mac, a quasi-government agency in a huge accounting scandal, with a 1.3 million dollar annual pension, 5.8 million in stock options, and 8.7 million in deferred compensation. o who did they buy off? Here is a list of the top four. recipients of campaign contributions from Fannie and Freddie. 1. Christopher Dodd – $133,900 2. John Kerry- $111,000 3. Barack Obama- $126,849 4. Hillary Clinton- $75,550.
So while Rome burns, Obama and the mainstream media are cooking up a scandal on “trooper gate” that is full of lies and whose purpose appears to be to cover up for the godzilla in your living room scandal that Obama is up to his neck in, Fannie and Freddie.

Karl M., The best way to fix the economy is to hand cuff US business with higher taxes and turn the money over to the middle class and poor so as Biden says, “they can buy toasters’ made in China so all the US job will go to China and US Business will tank.
McCain/Palin 2008

When the 3:00am call came and Lehman Brothers went bankrupt and Bank of America bought out Merrill Lynch and other companies are headed for failure, McCain said the fundamentals of the economy are sound???? Other countries are rushing to minimize their losses, and Greenspan said that this is a century economic crisis. John McCain was the only one in the world who said that the economy is fundamentally sound. Then today the media gave him a do over, and now he is saying we are economically is a bad situation and he proposes a 9/11 comission. No solutions. No actions. A commision ???? He selected Palin who is under investigation for Abuse of Authority as a vice president. Then he made her Pro-Choice, teach abstinence hidden pregnancy of her daughter to a 17 year old engaged daughter with no ring and fiance. She said she is running on a campaign for special needs children, yet she CUT IN HALF her budget for Special Olympics. She said she would fully cooperate in the investigation and now the McCain campaign filed suit saying she will not cooperate. McCain lied and said his crowd was 10,000 when it was 3,500.00. Palin lied and said the teleprompter malfunctioned and she speaking her own thoughts yet there were hundreds of witnesses who saw the teleprompter and knew she was lying. Palin lied about the Bridge to Nowhere. No Integrity and No Character and No TRUTH. No to McCAIN/PALIN.

I’m still looking forward to the standardized tests with questions like:
“Which dinosaurs did God make solely for the purpose of riding?”
But it is ultimately the goal of the conservatives, to prove gov’t doesn’t work by getting elected and bulloxing said gov’t up. Mission Accomplished.
I love how despite the fact that conservatives have been in complete control for 6 years and have filibustered/vetoed everything the barely dem congress has presented, that it’s still somehow the liberals’ fault that so much is broken…and that despite this constant outcry that it’s their fault, they claim to own the philosophy of personal responsibility.
Oh, and they don’t whine or play the victim like libs… says the party of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, whose radio shows exist solely for the purpose of whining about liberalism and the New Deal and acting like victims of their policies while enjoying wild success, making more while they pee than the average worker makes in a year, then whining that America has become a den of socialism.
Then they say that Capitalism can bring prosperity to all who work for it, but yet it’s not capable of paying workers a living wage, nor is it capable of sustaining a minimum wage. And that somehow by getting rid of the minimum wage that people will be paid more.
Several examples of double-talk right there… will our “liberal” mainstream media talk about it?
Nope.
“RobSolf, I was thinking about it and it seems to me that much of the New Deal policies have either been dismantled or they are under siege even now. As of late, we seem to have been privatizing and outsourcing to the detriment of many and the benefit of the few. Vouchers for schools will essentially dismantle public education under the clever jingo “parents’ choice”, and the same is proposed for retirements (then watch the privatized retirement fund evaporate on millions of trusting savers), and many other areas that once gave a government backed guarantee to citizens has disappeared or is disappearing. And it actually comes down to bidnis and profit, that’s what’s behind it. Did you know test preparation companies have seen at least a five hundred percent increase since the NCLB Act? All that act did was force rote memorization tests onto children and offer billions to private companies; outsourced education, outsourced healthcare, outsourced prisons, outsourced wars, it’s all about bidnis and profit, to the detriment of most. It hasn’t worked, and letting the reigns loose like this has gotten us into an economic meltdown from the greed. McCain is right about that, but he let it happen, voted with his party and did not point out the dangers of all this privatizing of our commonweal. Which nobel-prize winning economist said that “Government is merely the shadow of big business?”

I’m not done. Palin lied about the bridge to Nowhere and kept the 200 million. She charged the Alaskan taxpayers a per diem alloted for travel, for her to stay at home. She paid herself thousands of taxpayers dollars. She fired at will without fear of repecussion and without fear of accountability. She said she cooperate during the investigation until today when they are filing a suit to help her be above the law which every other America has follow and be held accountable for. McCain and Palin is not above the law. We need to know whether she is a criminal before the November vote.

Did you hear the news in Alaska? Evidently the leftists in Alaska have been manipulating the investigation. The leader of the investigation is best buds with the guy that got fired. And the others on the team are also. No one authorized the investigation. These people are not the ones who can launch the investigation in the first place. The guy that got fired had added to the budget items that were vetoed by Palin. when this guy attempted to circumvent the budget rules he got fired. His job can be eliminated at any time by the Governor.It is part of the rules allowed by Alaskan law. Then his friends started attacking Palin. all these guys are very liberal democrats who seem to be backed by powerful people. Who’s pulling the strings? Obama?Moveon.org? Oprah? Barbra Streisand? Louis Farrakan? Maybe all of them. These people DON’T Want this brought out so they are trying to cause confusion to delay any information from hitting the light of day before the election. We should find out what phone numbers these liberals are getting calls from. That would back track to who is in panic mode to cause Palin harm.

“Karl M., The best way to fix the economy is to hand cuff US business with higher taxes and turn the money over to the middle class and poor so as Biden says, “they can buy toasters’ made in China so all the US job will go to China and US Business will tank.”
What, like keep money out of the hands of the lower and middle classes because they will buy foreign products? How did those products get into Walmart? Why are they there right now? Sounds like production already went overseas if they can only buy Chinese toasters, and at least more people will have toasters. Also, don’t worry, U.S. businesses will profit like they are right now. Your argument doesn’t actually make much sense.

oops. slight correction to that last post. one than

WJ, Sounds like Judge Judy doesn’t do it for you in a moose blind. Regardless of the judge, at least there will not be completely innocent people being tortured and charged with nothing, indefinitely “detained” like we are some totalitarian USSR system. How embarrassing that this administration destroyed what we mean as a nation, and now you are worried about soft judgments? I am worried about there being no judgments at all.

Just want to alert the posters here that any comments that may be critical of Obama are being censored by ABC. Beware the Obama/Media complex.

SeanBean wrote: “Palin & McCain at least offer me a breath of fresh air….. I say give them a chance beats the alternatives. There’s a certain segment of the population that I have had bad experiences with over the years that I just can’t trust……”
Oh, what segments would that be, ya dumbass innuendo racist? You know what, there’s a certain “segment” of the population that I have had bad experiences with over the years that I just can’t trust: dumbass racists and condescending elitist neocons; neocons are the leaders, and you are the typical follower.

I’m votin for obama jus cuz I don
wannabe called a raceist. duh!

Dumboldwhiteguy says:
I’m votin for obama jus cuz I don
wannabe called a raceist. duh!
Hey, that won’t save you, you’d still be a racist, and you are a liar, you know damned good and well you won’t vote for him because he’s black.

That is interesting, and I appreciate his concern and efforts. However, I believe there were other bills and laws that the Republicans passed that were underneath the GSE instability. In other words, it’s best not to deregulate to the point that the entire market can Enron itself into this meltdown. Yes Fannie and Freddie were worth being concerned, but look at the other bailouts and collapses, which were not GSE’s. The GSE is actually quite a small part of the overall problem when we look at the entire mortgage crisis. All those banks were operating under a highly deregulated system, there were some loopholes and tricks in some of those laws the Republicans passed that allowed those mortgages to get packaged into various clever derivatives, and that was what McCain should have been concerned about. It’s seems to me it’s a bit like allowing a herd of pigs (with lipstick) into the garden, and then running to tell mom that a pig has gotten into her rosebed.

No, my racist nonfriend, it isn’t just being white that makes you racist, it is comments like that and the last one that make you easy to spot as a racist, whatever your color (definitely white and not real educated)..
And yes you would vote for a “wage stealing big government wacko”, you voted for Bush twice, now didn’t you, and you are now going to vote for McCain…

If he’s good enough for Lindsay Lohan he’s got my vote. Obama ’08

RobSolf, my favorite line from your last message because it is so profoundly true: “Like so many politicians before her, she came to office on a campaign to flush corruption, and instead took ownership.”
That is what bothers me about her. Just another politician making promises to sit in the royal seat and start firing and hiring around the pork barrel. Then McCain is using that whole “reform” BS to link up with his “Maverick” BS. It’s a strategy and the hardcore Republicans are so busy seeing their miraculous mother Mary everywhere, who has “energized” them, that they don’t even care if some old white guy and some ambitious bootstrapping trailer trash are going to get into office and let the same backstage elitists run the show for another hellish four years…

She has already betrayed the middle and lower class. You remember John Lennon’s lyrics in “Wroking Class Hero”? Something like “You gotta learn how to kill
if you want to live like the folks on the hill”.

RobsoLF,
Sorry to tell you that the polls, in the next few days, will show a growing trend for McCain. Obama just cannot connect with the voters. He cannot feel their pain. He can only feel the $$$$ from Hollywood so on his way he went. The undecideds are 70% for McCain. So you Obama sympathizers can vent as long as you want. Again for the nth time you picked the wrong candidate.

Here we have the wealthy wife of a candidate showing off her wealth and holding the baby of Palin who should have been holding him herself. Look at the Seattle Sunday newspaper and you will see her record. No eve 50% of her time in office was she in her office, she was home taking care of her kids. And now she won’t answer any questions about her record, what is she hiding??? If a person hasn’t lied, why would they be afraid to answer some simple questions. I just came back from Alaska and they don’t like her. I saw one sign, and it was an OBAMA sign at the capital. Just right around the cornor from the gov’s house.

Smartoldwhiteguy, the headline in our newspaper was actually, “Are Americans THAT stupid?” And that is what all of Europe was asking after Bush was re-elected when you all KNEW he had lied to start a war. We thought you should have removed him then. I must say I am surprised that McCain and Palin even have a chance. And if they win, I will believe many Americans are naive and not very smart.

It’s a sad cycle. Even those that mean it when they say they’re there to fight the corruption find themselves ever so slowly rationalizing the concept of “using the corruption to help the people”. Eventually, they begin to rationalize it as, “well, the next guy will probably be worse.”…
She completely destroyed any chance that I’d vote for her when she said there was NO hesitation for accepting the VP ticket.
I’d like to hope she was lying. I’d like to think she really did do some soul searching, as anyone should do upon being offered such an important position. But again, there’s little in the scant info we have about her that leads me to believe that she lets thinking get in the way of any of her decisions. And this all sounds extremely familiar…
As far as McCain is concerned, his choice of Palin, AND the people he chose to run his campaign, not necessarily the lobbyists so much as the ex-GWB people were so disgusting to him in 2000 showed me that whatever bit of maverick he had in him, he was more than willing to sell it off to win the election. He’s bought into the Bush policies, many of which he was once against. He’s shown a willingness to give up his most important principals(torture, for one) to win. He’s given up his soul. That’s all he started with, and now it’s gone.
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RobSolf, my favorite line from your last message because it is so profoundly true: “Like so many politicians before her, she came to office on a campaign to flush corruption, and instead took ownership.”
That is what bothers me about her. Just another politician making promises to sit in the royal seat and start firing and hiring around the pork barrel. Then McCain is using that whole “reform” BS to link up with his “Maverick” BS. It’s a strategy and the hardcore Republicans are so busy seeing their miraculous mother Mary everywhere, who has “energized” them, that they don’t even care if some old white guy and some ambitious bootstrapping trailer trash are going to get into office and let the same backstage elitists run the show for another hellish four years…
Posted by: Smartoldwhiteguy |

So what you’re saying then, is that Capitalism doesn’t work.
Or you’re saying that the American people don’t work hard, so they don’t deserve a living wage.
And they call liberals anti-American?
And if a company can afford to lay off workers, that means there wasn’t enough work for them to begin with. This indicates poor management. Thus, the management gets paid too much for its shoddy work.
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Jennifer, Forcing a business via government fiat to pay higher wages to people who have not done anything to earn the higher wages forces businesses to lay off workers they can no longer afford to pay for or pass the higher cost of doing business on to you and me which mean higher inflation. Plain and simple. Again, money does not grow on trees and if a business is forced to pay higher wages than the money has to come from somewhere, someone loses their job or the cost is passed on to you and me. Dah
Posted by: mary

An Alaskan apple taste better than a dark one full of worms. A hawaiian apple tastes better than any other apple because you can put pineapples on pizza. This apple business is pointless, and so is Obama. He really stands for whatever people want to project onto him. If they believe that America should Change to m, they vote for him. Change to Communism? Vote Obama. Change to Theocracy? Vote Obama. However, if you are like me, or most other americans, vote for McCain, who to date has not had to rip the enemy VP to shreds because of the desparate situation he’s in.

The only way “change” is going to happen is when the American people stand up and say “ENOUGH!!”………to both parties!! I wish more than ever that there was a choice that was not Democrat or Republican….what a farce this whole thing has become….I am one sad American who is strongly considering finding a new home, neither one of these canidates will do anything but get elected and then it’s the same ol business in Washington…

McSame/Palin speeches are just empty words and fun tales to entertain, no substance no relevant truths !!
Obama/Biden ’08

Russ..vote McCain….he has the best record of working across the aisle….want bipartisan cabinet….will appoint DEMS and Repbulicans, best and brightest. The wealthiest to receive only $1 a year.
He does not have an ego and doesn’t care who gets credit….just wants to REFORM Wahington….and with Palin they will. THAT’S the CHANGE I want for this country.
VOTE McCAIN/PALIN

Um…did it occur to you that perhaps they are suggesting that if John McCain is elected and another 8 years of bad economics occurs, that we MIGHT be near the great depression?? How is that conflicting?

America had better wake up. If McCain was to lie , cheat , and steal his way into the White House , we will all be standing in soup lines , as our kids are being drafted.
McCain/Palin = Unstable/Unable

its obvious some people like mike n mccain dnt get it..how will ur suggestions help the american people now.y not stay on the issues,u try everymeans possible to take us away 4rm it.what reealy can obama do witout the senate.am tired of all of these people saying dnt trow ur vote away on someone u cant trust.telling lies n casting dout.the reason is hate period.guy i wont sink to my grave b4 my time bcos am bent on putting a white in power n notting more.i judge people by their intellect not color.the situation is too critical to afford to waste another 4yrs.gop reform urselves

You mean the Democrats have a message beyond, BUSH, BUSH, BUSH, BUSH, BUSH. BUSH, BUSH, BUSH, BUSH ? They sould take the time to tell someone.

Eight years of corporate prostitution in the White House, voters must say no to four more. Obama has soldout to lobbyist, show no signs whatsoever he represent real change.
Flipping on FISA-bill may have gotten Obama plenty of Telecommunication-money, but voters are not for sale. He may avoid debates, tough questions and sticking to one concrete piece of policy – trying to buy the election.
McCharacter and Palin both have experience actually taking difficult choices against corporations, party leadership and lobbyist. They are experienced and independent!

The Illinois senator’s reversal on the issue has angered liberal groups, but Obama told reporters at a news conference this afternoon that he was satisfied with changes made to the original bill, including a provision that gives a secret court, rather than the White House, the final say on spying procedures. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer also switched sides on the legislation, for the same reasons as Obama.
“It is a close call for me,” Obama told reporters. But he said the addition of the “exclusivity” provision giving power to the secret court, along with a new inspector general role and other oversight additions, “met my basic concerns.” He said the bill’s target should not be the phone companies’ culpability, but “can we get to the bottom of what’s taking place, and do we have safeguards?”

OBAMA’S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED
In her senior thesis at Princeton , Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama
stated that America was a nation founded on ‘crime and hatred’.
Moreover, she stated that whites in America were ‘ineradicably racist’. The
1985 thesis, titled ‘Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community’ was
written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to ‘Whites at Princeton , it often
seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first…’ However, it was reported
by a fellow black classmate, ‘If those ‘Whites at Princeton ‘ really saw Michelle
as one who always would ‘be Black first,’ it seems that she gave them that
impression’.
Most alarming is Michele Obama’s use of the terms ‘separationist’ and
‘integrationist’ when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a ‘separationist’ view of race.
‘By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as
a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation
of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an
integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.’
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to
her ‘further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure
that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full
participant.’
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America , but she elevates black over white in her world.
Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:
‘There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black
community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize
all of my present and future resources to benefit the black
community first and foremost.’
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she’s first
lady that will elevate black over white in America ?
The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action
policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.
‘Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically
designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of
their enrollments.’
The conclusion of her thesis is alarming.
Michelle Obama’s poll of black alumni concludes that other black students
at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness. But rather than
celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common
American culture more than they value the color of their skin. ‘I hoped that
these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of
identification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational
path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a
certain level of identification with the black community. However, these
findings do not support this possibility.’
Is it no wonder that most black alumni ignored her racist questionnaire?
Only 89 students responded out of 400 who were asked for input.
Michelle Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see
Americans. She sees black people and white people eternally conflicted
with one another.
The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama’s thoughts and
world view seen through a race-based prism. This is a very
divisive view for a potential first lady that would do untold
damage to race relations in this country in a Barack Obama
administration.
Michelle Obama’s intellectually refined racism should give all
Americans pause for deep concern.
Now maybe she’s changed, but she sure sounds like someone with an axe to
grind with America . Will the press let Michelle get a free pass over her obviously
racist comment about American whites? I am sure that it will.
PS: We paid for her scholarship.

If you are an elitist and you are sitting in a high social debating class then your question is appropriate.
But dude if you ‘ ketching your a– ‘ like the rest of us then lets talk about creating jobs.

We the people say ENOUGH !! Enough with the Republicans and Karl Rove’s Smear Machine against the real CHANGE our next President Barack Obama. I can’t believe that McSame hired this same gang who destroyed him in 2000 and now wants to use this same gang to try to smear Barack Obama and distract the people and the media. That’s CHANGE we don’t need in the white House. ENOUGH with the same Bush/McCain policies. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !! It won’t work this time because McSame can have the lobbyists, special interest groups and Karl Rove to pay and run his campain but Obama has the people that pay and run his campain until he is elected President of USA.
YES WE CAN !!!
Obama/ Biden ’08 all the way !!!!

I have a question -
Obama says he will reduce income taxes for 95% of Americans, yet fully 40% of Americans pay no income taxes at all. So, mathematically speaking, how is that possible? Reminds me of 1992, when Bill Clinton became President. He ran on a platform of middle class tax cuts. Within 4 months of taking office, Clinton was on TV, explaining how it just wasn’t possible to give us those tax cuts, sorry. Of course, I realize that most of you on this board weren’t even born in 1992, considering your immature use of name-calling to make your points.

Harry Reid is not the attack dog that the Democrats need. Frankly, he has, as Senate majority leader, done nothing to stop the Republicans from filibustering and stalling legislation. He needs to step down as majority leader and allow someone in there who can take the fight to the Republicans and Reagan Democrats. This country is going down the tubes and Reid doesn’t get it. He is way too soft spoken for the job.

Last night I saw a interview on CSPAN of Nancy Pelosi’s Daughter. My god she is crossed eyed and just as looney as her MOM. Did not make any sense trying to back BO. I guess she was going to BS’s party to listen to BO. BS is just as ugly as ever.

You want a conflicting message? How about the Republican Party’s 2008 Presidential Nominee, Sen. John McCain, whose campaign strategy is to campaign against his own party! That one STILL has my head spinning!

I would love to see ABC find a real journalist in their midst and they could cover Obama trying to undermine the troop pullout plan in Iraq for political gain.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75438

I would love to see ABC find a real journalist in their midst and they could cover Obama trying to undermine the troop pullout plan in Iraq for political gain.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75438

White pres. Bill Clinton has an office in Harlem, but the blacks believe Obama has done more for their cause by 95%.
Obama went (guess he doesn’t have an office there) to Harlem to get Slick Willie’s support ’cause the Rep. have a woman VP.
Oprah has given her celebrity, support, money to a junior senator that more reflects her views, but she is not a racist–just a sexist maybe–that is conflicting! Is she a registered lobbiest? What value is her individual-cause she calls all the shots–support worth? Obama faults McCain for who he accepts money from–like Oprah isn’t already on the overnight White House list.
CONFLICT!? The real conflict is the way the nomination-election debates were controlled!
Hillary thinks Palin is interesting but not worth a vote–well, who are the DEM nominees? Does that now mean that Hillary believes Obama got the nomination because he is better qualified-not just more interesting?
These have to be the DUMBest Democratics EVER for this election to be close, because the REP VP candidate is a woman! Gee Hillary that is not pres. quality logic! No wonder HE beat you.
Billy Bob, Florida where the DNP denied DEM nomination-election votes due to state REP moving the date, and Obama agreed this action to be correct, appropriate, and in the best interest in his nomination.

Americans we need to vote for Obama, because he wants to bring fresh new innovative ideas into this great nation. McCain recently started talking about reform, and shaking up Washington because he is aware that Obama’s IDEA of change we can believe in was resonating with Americans. McCain is just playing political games and using low blow strategies to get the American voters attention, but he does NOT HAVE ANY FRESH IDEAS OF INNOVATION THAT WE SO DESPERATELY NEED. The way I see it, many foreigners own a piece of America, because they have invested their money into our economy but they are starting to pull out, and this is why we are seeing this financial crisis. This is why we need Obama to win, so that he can cause these new ideas to become dependent from these middle east dictators. I pray someone really earnestly tried to understand this posting and not tune off the truth written in this posting. God help us!

REALLY, I guess Harry Reid shouldn’t have pointed out that McSame thinks this is a mental recession, he should have just given Mcsame a pass. McSame says he doesn’t know anything about the economy!!!! Hmmm! Really ABC, if you going to slant the news McSame should have to claim it as a campaign donation. Mcsame contradicts himself w/ everything he says. WHen he says the fundamentals of the economy are strong were supposed to interpret that workers are strong? If he says something boneheaded were just supposed to assume he meant something else. Some fair reporting would be nice. I guess since you’re owned by corporate America you can’t report fairly or you’d get fired.

An Alaskan apple taste better than a dark one full of worms. A hawaiian apple tastes better than any other apple because you can put pineapples on pizza. This apple business is pointless, and so is Obama. He really stands for whatever people want to project onto him. If they believe that America should Change to m, they vote for him. Change to Communism? Vote Obama. Change to Theocracy? Vote Obama. However, if you are like me, or most other americans, vote for McCain, who to date has not had to rip the enemy VP to shreds because of the desparate situation he’s in.
Posted by: patriot | Sep 17, 2008 12:23:53 AM
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Wanna have dictatorship /fascist vote 4 McCain/Palin if you falsely believe Obama leads America in to Socialism.
Republicans/Dictatorship by peeping into privacy of Americans via Bush’s years

Americans we need to vote for Obama, because he wants to bring fresh new innovative ideas into this great nation. McCain recently started talking about reform, and shaking up Washington because he is aware that Obama’s IDEA of change we can believe in was resonating with Americans. McCain is just playing political games and using low blow strategies to get the American voters attention, but he does NOT HAVE ANY FRESH IDEAS OF INNOVATION THAT WE SO DESPERATELY NEED. The way I see it, many foreigners own a piece of America, because they have invested their money into our economy but they are starting to pull out, and this is why we are seeing this financial crisis. This is why we need Obama to win, so that he can cause these new ideas to become dependent from these middle east dictators. I pray someone really earnestly tried to understand this posting and not tune off the truth written in this posting. God help us!
In response to the above comment:
The truth is that these large corporations have been receiving large tax cuts from the republicans. The rich have so many loop holes and virtually pay no taxes, and the MIDDLE CLASS is STUCK paying all of the taxes. WE THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION NEED RELIEF FROM THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS. When you put more money in the pockets of the population that makes up the majority of the population by letting them keep more of their pay-check (the middle class; not the rich), then you help the economy. So I see your historic point, but I think that is important to just see point (by helping the middle class you help the economy and ultimately this nation)

we have met the enemy and they are us.”McCain Attacks Washington, Republicans, Old White Men with White HairMost Ironic Speech to Date, Experts SayIn what some political observers are calling his most ironic speech of the 2008 campaign, GOP presidential nominee John McCain today lashed out at Washington, the Republican Party and a group of insiders he called “old white men with white hair.”"It’s time to take our country back,” Sen. McCain told his audience in Dayton, Ohio. “It’s time to send a message to those in power – those Republicans in Washington, those old white men with their combed-over white hair.”Sen. McCain went on to attack the power elite on Wall Street, calling them “wealthy plutocrats with private jets and too many houses to keep track of.”"The time has come to say enough is enough to those rich old white men,” he said. “And the same goes to their zombie-like trophy wives who plaster their makeup on like trollops.”Responding to the nation’s economic turmoil, Sen. McCain said that as President he would create millions of jobs “by putting Americans to work making negative ads.”"We no longer lead the world in manufacturing cars, steel, or computers,” Sen. McCain said. “But our negative ad industry is second to none.”In other economic news, President Bush announced another massive bailout today, saying that he had completed a deal for China to buy the United States in its entirety.”This was a difficult deal to pull off,” Mr. Bush acknowledged. “The hard part was identifying the parts of the U.S. that China didn’t already own.”

This week started off with Black Monday, where the stock market dropped over 500 points and investors lost $500-billion in equity. And this just wasn’t one isolated day here. The market’s been tanking for a while now, and economist after economist says we’re either in recession or about to enter one…and a major one at that. But that didn’t stop McCain from repeating his duplicitous and/or delusional mantra that “The fundamentals of the economy are strong.” It’s a phrase Grandpa John apparently loves, as he’s said it about 22 times this year including:
11/27/07: “I think the fundamentals are strong”
1/10: “I think the fundamentals of this economy are strong”
1/17: “Our economic fundamentals are strong”
3/11: “The fundamentals of our economy are strong”
5/5: “The fundamentals of our economy are strong”
6/5: “The fundamentals of our economy are very strong”
McCain’s insistence that the economy is strong should be the nail in his political coffin for anyone still doubting just how out-of-touch he is with the financial anxieties of average Americans, let alone his grasp of the dire straits the nation is in.
Since George Bush took office in 2000, the “fundamentals of the economy” are horrendous:
-Unemployment 6.1% vs 4.2%
-Budget deficit of $357-billion vs $281-billion budget surplus
-National debt at $9.7-trillion vs $5.8-trillion
-Gas $4/gallon vs $1.27
-Inflation at 5.37% from 2.74%
-Real Wages down 2%
-Consumer Confidence Index .57 vs historical high of 145
Add to this grim picture the crisis over 400,000 U.S. home foreclosures, a mortgage meltdown, and multiple Wall Street bankruptcies. Seriously, I’d like a bowl of some of that crack McCain’s been smoking if he truly thinks the “fundamentals are strong.”
It didn’t take long for McCrusty to realize what a colossal mistake he made and, in a back-peddle that would make a circus clown proud, he did his disingenuous best to spin a great tale.

Remember McCain was referring to the workers, not really the economy.
Either McCain is a slippery politician unwilling to admint his mistakes and make up a bogus excuse, or he really does not understand the economy…..which is worse?

Think Dem’s have conflicting messages.
Read the previous blog post. McCain and Palin are denouncing “golden parachutes” and promising to end them while the goddess of Golden parachutes, Carly Fiorina, the layoff queen of Hewlett Packard, is their chief economic adviser and surrogate.
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The primary difference between Carly Fiorina and the Clinton-croney former heads of FNMA and FHLMC (whose previous experience prior to these positions, by the way, was being in the Clinton political camp) being that Carly’s parachute came strictly from the coffers of Hewlett Packard, whereas the heads of FNMA and FHLMC’s parachutes are being paid for by you and me, the taxpayers. Which one is more problematic for the average taxpayer?

Most Americans only think about themselves… You guys are worried that you lost a few dollars in earnings in the last 8 year…look at the good Bush has done for the world…Because of him thousands of people in countries like India and China got good work. It helped change these third world countries into developing nations and gave thousands of Jobs to our Youth. Now we dont have to wait on foreign aid and alms to feed our people.

I blame the Republicans…no wait, I blame the Democrats…no wait, I blame the speculators…no wait…
You people are a bunch of whiners.
If you want to blame anyone, blame yourselves for taking sub-prime mortgage loans you damn well knew you couldn’t afford.
So much for personal responsibility…America is screwed with the lot of you voting.

The fact that people shouldn’t panic because being paralized does not help anyone, does not mean that the fundamental are strong. It simply means, let’s work together to make things right, to make the fundamentals strong.
I wonder if the Republican party pays this blog writer or he makes this comments just for his personal Republican bias…
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN CORRUPTION, LIES and MANIPULATIONS

America needs a economic commander not a military commander. Economy makes military strong but a strong military has never made economy strong. Look at Russia. A very strong military and weak economy. China is rising economically and eventually, its military would be strong. McCain, a military commander, to me doesn’t qualify him to be the commander in chief. Sarah Palin is just a stooge to bring women vote to McCain which of course is why she was brought there. But the question is, can she help McCain to handle economy and foreign policy if McCain became incapacitated? The answer is, a big NO. Can Joe Biden help in case Obama is incapacitated? The answer is, a big YES.
McCain doesn’t know economy and I can only trust Professor of Chicago University Law School to handle this than a soldier. I have very much respect for John but with all those years in Washington, voting with the current president ninety percent of the time, I don’t view him as the best to run this economy. In my view, Obama judgment is more proven when he opposed the war that John supported at a time when no one agreed with him. John want even a war with Russia and by the way soldiers don’t value diplomacy, they value toughness and war thinking at all time they would win. That’s why he has the gut to sell Palin to voters as a person with proven foreign policy because she can see Russia as if Russia is the only country on earth and as if neighboring a country makes you qualified to be president.
This election is a joke for American people. Sarah Palin in ticket is just an insult to Americans and more to women who always liked Clinton because of her compelling biography and not because she was a woman.