Dems Target McCain on Social Security

Deregulate, privatize, and then blame it on greed. This clearly isn’t working.
People wanted to decide what they could afford in a mortgage. The banks let them and here we are today. You need to have regulation and standards in place as a check and balance system.

I think it is rude to correct a person’s grammar in general. But when the people making the mistake actually think they are so intelligent when they make the mistake it is fair game. Too many people act pompous and say “between you and I” because they think it makes them look intelligent. It is actually between you and me. Me is the object of the preposition between and it is correct to use the objective case of the pronoun, me, and not the nominative, which is I. By the way, I know Barack Obama is so brilliant, but on David Letterman he said, “They asked Michelle and I to take the test”. It should be me not I because it is the direct object. You would not say for instance, “They asked he to take the test”, you would say, “They asked him to take the test”. All kinds of supposedly smart people make these kinds of mistakes, which I think are made out of arrogance misplaced. I know I make mistakes too but when I do it’s not hopefully because I am trying to impress people with my high flying but wrong grammar.

To: Anyone who has a parent or grandparent depending on social security
From: John McCain
Subject: Privatizing Social Security
I just wanted everyone to know, the John McCain campaign is 100% committed to the privatization of Social Security along the lines of the proposal of the Bush administration.
The John McCain administration wants to divert the contributions currently being made to the Social Security system, the ones that are paying for your Grandmother’s retirement, to private accounts.
ANYONE WHO IS 80 YEARS OLD AND DEPENDENT ON SOCIAL SECURITY SHOULD CONSIDER GETTING A JOB.
GOOD LUCK!

I like McCain’s idea to privatize social security. If we do that and the CEO’s and other fat cats on Wall Street lose our retirment savings, then we can just bail them out like we are doing now with the mortgage crisis. Heads they win; tails we lose. That soounds like a good bet to me.

Is there anybody out there who is not a nerd writing about grammar or politics??? I liked it in the Olympics when the guy from the USA gymnastics team kept saying, “That’s how we roll!” (third place baby). He really was likeable but that declaration just cracked me up.

It’s hilarious that he’s pointing his skinny fingers at the “mess” when he CLEARLY, helped create it with his entitlements and buddies/advisors Jim Johnson & Franklin Raines.
And no one on the left questions this. Freaks.

hello, I like dogs.

McCain/Palin – Thanks, but no thanks on Nov. 4th

this has rove written all over it. have you noticed that every time rove comes out in defense of Obama, something slimy follows? these poor souls are probably illiterate and under the influence of some crazy preacher being paid off by the republicans. they looked haitian to me, too. are they even registered voters? did the media even try to investigate them? sad, really, really sad.
Posted by: Angry American Voter | Sep 19, 2008 9:50:40 PM
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Angry -
What you wrote really said it all about the kind of followers His Nothingness attracts.
What a pity that a good party is being brought down by such a phony with support by people like you!

Here’s what they did to the mortgage industry:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_091808/content/01125107.guest.html
If you have doubts about what is said there, google your questions.
SO, let’s let them in charge of Medicare, Social Security, National Healthcare, College for Everybody and maybe even Caddy’s for everyone – besides, why should only the rich drive new cadillacs?

Just take a moment and look at today.
The worst financial crisis since the Great Depression has been realized, and within a few hours, the government has announced a $1 Trillion bailout paid for by money that they will borrow from China and Saudi Arabia.
The $1 Trillion new debt undertaken today does a few things:
1) It instantly doubles all of the national debt that was accumulated over the past 20 years.
2) It places $1 Trillion in debt obligations on our children.
3) It is a transfer of $1 Trillion in wealth from the middle class to upper class. For the simple reason that every citizen of the US will bear the additional debt, wheras only the very rich made more in the market today than the additional debt that was ascribed to their family.
This atrocity can only be described as Socailization of the rich. A massive loan, levied upon all Americans, to benefit those who have millions in the stock market. A person with $1M in the stock market made $40,000 TODAY ALONE, while the rest of us each took on $8,000 debt per family of 4.
On this night, as the republican economic Ideology of Debt lies a putrid stinking carcass of lies, mark this day in your memory. History is being made at this moment. Remember this night, as you will tell your children 30 years from now who it was you voted for.

THINK people THINK. Where AIG is concerned, it was the MANAGER who POORLY Managed the corporation, not Wall Street. THINK beyond the “Wall Street” argument wrapping your brain around “corruption and mismanagement” of the accounting process (both parties in Congress) and upper management in these companies.
McCain predicted the mortgage mess when he was blocked from trying to reform it a couple of years ago. That’s a fact, but you won’t read that headline anywhere.

Hello Kitty I like dogs too. I like Palin better than McCain and Clinton better than Obama. I was a democrat but won’t ever be an Obamacrat. I think hacking is wrong, and blaming the victim a joke (referring to Sarah Palin and some who blame Palin). Anyone could break out a car window and steal from it, but does that mean it’s okay and okay to blame the car owner. No, it is a crime.

Otis,
Open your eyes you fool. McCain TRIED TO PREVENT THIS BUT HIS BILL GOT KILLED.
Obama has bailed out the wealthy. Why you ask would a so-called liberal want to line the pockets of the wealthy???
Jim Johnson (a good friend and advisor of his) – former head of Fannie Mae
Hedge fund manager after hedge fund manager (like Fortress) giving him loads of cash for his campaign.
Obama’s true colors have shows.
OBAMA = SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH
THIS IS A DISGRACE TO WORKING CLASS, HONEST AMERICANS.

It doesn’t matter what McCain says today, tomorrow it will be something different. What a pillock. What a clown. What a liar. What a sad desperate old man.

Yeah let’s all vote for an untested democrat and give him a democratic congress and I am sure nothing will go wrong. That sounds scary to me. I will vote for MCCain/Palin and some checks and balances.

Wow. This allows Obama to target – fairly or unfairly – McCain as a candidate willing to leave seniors open to the frenzied whims of a damaged market. If he’s smart he will push hard on this and consistently target McCain as danger to working-class seniors, especially in the battleground Rust Belt states.
http://www.political-buzz.com/

It’s pretty sad that ABC News is not responsible enough to present FACTS & truth.
Sometimes I think 49% of the population deserve Obama and his MEAN wife.

GALLUP POLLS ARE IN!!!
http://www.gallup.com
Obama up for the 7th straight day
McCain down for the 7th straight day
Obama 49% – McCain 44%
A better day is coming.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-s20060525-16&bill=s109-190
No one argues that McCain has supported regulation of Fannie & Freddie. That doesn’t prevent today’s problems, though. If F&F’s loans go bad, they go bad. Regulation at the F&F level can’t prevent that.
The core problem is the national debt is an outragous $1 Trillion, which has led to devaluation of the Dollar abroad, with the effects of increased energy prices, combined with a credit crunch at home. Then add to that 200,000 people who lost their jobs this year defaulting on the mortgages. No regulation of F&F could have prevented this storm.
I praise McCain for his work on this bill, but it’s like praising a good ER doctor treating a patients who arrive by ambulance for refusing to wears their seatbelt.
Barack Hussein Obama addresses the core of the problem – the balanced budget – the seatbelt of our economy. McCain makes a good senator and has written good legislation for sure, but lacks the judgement to see the big picture.

Here’s what McCain has to say about the wonders of market-based health reform:
Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation. (Krugman)

The Obama plan – scroll down to “the bottom line” if you want to.
http://www.willisms.com/archives/2008/03/social_security_63.html

No antijake, don’t spin what I said. I didn’t say anything about making a decision – I am stating an opinion, that’s all. Actually, I was mocking Michelle and her words about America being MEAN and Obammie’s words at his $28K/plate Barbra Streisand affair the other nite when he said America would be MEAN if he’s not elected. See?
Golly gee (remember that phrase), you liberals have said over and over on national TV & radio that you are voting for Obammie just cause he’s black and slavery deserves reparation. Ask Tom Hanks. And you ask me if I AM SERIOUS? LOL!

Iraq = 1 trillion dollars
Economic Bailout = 500 Billion – 1 trillion dollars
All debt owed to China and the McCain folks don’t think he is going to raise taxes? That’s fantasyland.

when you give tax breaks, people can spend more money on investments and goods and services rather than fund entitlement programs with increased tax dollars which, in turn, creates more revenue.
Drilling our own resources (oil, natural gas, etc) and stopping subsidies on everything from ethanol (50 cents/gallon) to peanut butter might help put some money BACK into the Social Security fund. Things like that are what McCain/Palin will be looking at – it’s called “getting rid of waste”. See?

Back to topic:
The volatility of the stock market is the essential reason not to trust it to Social Security, as doing so essentially removes any “security”.
Social Security is socialist as is Medicare. However, these programs are in place because as humans it is unconscionable to have our streets crowded with sick and poor elderly.
So, we are stuck with these socialist programs and must manage them appropriately as, until today, these were bankrupting the country. Now, as Ron Paul rolls over in his grave (yeah, I know, he’s not dead), we are going to fund a massive and misguided bailout that we can’t afford. We’re fighting a war we can’t afford too. Part of the problem is panic, part is greed, but I don’t think that this is the best idea. The financials get half a trillion when it took every effort to get 150 million for ordinary folks.
Anyway, the devil is in the details and we’ll see exactly what comes of this. Is the government (i.e. us) going to own all of these foreclosed homes? My guess is these same financials will saddle us with the full cost of the bad debt, then buy back the debt for pennies on the dollar.

“Obama never authored a single bill.”
Really?
Let’s see what Newsweek has to say about that today:
“Obama served eight years in Springfield, and has been in Washington nearly four so far. In the Illinois state Senate, he authored about a half-dozen “major laws” on issues ranging from ethics to education.
In Washington Obama has his name on three important laws: the first major ethics reform since Watergate; a much-needed cleanup of conventional weapons in the former Soviet Union, and the “Google for Government” bill, an accountability tool that requires notice of all federal contracts to be posted online.
McCain served four years in the House and has been in the Senate almost 22 so far. But he, too, has authored fewer than a half-dozen major laws.
Trying to fix immigration counts for something, but nothing passed. ”
So we’ll add a fifth phrase to the republican vocabulary this evening:
1) Rezko
2) Ayers
3) Muslim
4) Bleating Sheep
5) Never passed a bill
I’ll add a 6th for you all in honor of today.
6) Collosal Failure. what you get when you elect a republican to the white house.

Americans used to be opinionated and tough, and the press used to report the news not make it. Some of you are so unoriginal and so unAmerican in your language. Man, y’all sound like a bunch of drones. Ever call a democrats office, you will defiitely get a lot of politically correct canned rhetoric that will make you sick. Usury interest is wrong. It has been wrong since the days of Moses. The subprime loans were a disaster waiting to happen because of the excessive interest. Simple. Pay day loans should be outlawed, they charge what like 300% interest. People should know what they are signing and not make the rest of us pay for their mistakes. People should live within their means and the banks, who know better, should not have made these dangerous type loans. Morons. I am mad because I live within my means and now I am responsibe for the banks and individuals who were not responsible.

We will have less in our accounts, less equity, less optimism, less everything with a Barack Hussein Obama sock puppet Presidency. Do you all know he has 300 paid staff advisors? I DON’T WANT TO PAY FOR THE MOST ADVISOR DRIVEN PRESIDENCY IN ALL HISTORY!
McCAIN/PALIN!!!!!

rush is john mccains nightmare latinos are not stupid they know what he has been saying about them..he better distance himself from rush or people will decide that this has helped them to finally decide they will not vote for him..yes please do tour ad rush it does help the dems. even more

Doe McCain really think people are going to like what he wants to do with the Social Security. Bribg it out see what people think.How about when he said he was going to tax it? it is on the table. To talk about something else, is it right that Palin’s preacher at her church go for witch hunts? .

“Privitization” is codeword for:
“Let’s build another corporation full of republican cronies, who will make millions and fly private jets. When the company collapses in debt, we’ll bail out the company, borrow trillions from foreign investors to finance the bailout, threaten to fire people we don’t have the authority to fire, blame the democrats, call for a commission, and blast the democrats for needing so many advisors.”
Hey. Republicans. This ain’t good timing to promote that b******t.

Uh oh:
Ralph Nader is on the ballot in 45 states plus Washington DC and is a write-in in 4 states, for a total of 49 ballots. He is polling 6-8%.

Seems like Obammie’s trying to get the focus off of his dealings in Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac by bringing up SS. Hahahaha! Freak
Pleae already with the lies. All the money Obama received was from employees not CEO and McSame just straight the true and all the commentaries put it out. It seem like all those lies are not working any more becasue McSane is polls are falling daily like all the lies he tell daily.

The media is being bamboozled:
Personal accounts=Private accounts=Privatization of social security.
McCain is an idiot!!!

McCain Keating deregulation the s and L crisis
a trillion dollars
McCain Bush the Iraq war…
a trillion dollars
Mccain Gramm (Davis and Black as well) deregulation
a trillion dollars
at what point do people say the guy who is hanging out every time and fighting for the same policies as…the people and beliefs that cost us all this
should not have the keys to the economic engine?
same team
same tactics
same outcome
throw these bums out!

everyone should read clifton’s post above

obamayomomma – with your nasty comments you absolutely deserve McCain and Palin. But the country doesn’t.

The current system is a good example of why the poor stay poor.

The problem with privatization of Social Security is that Republicans will want to provide as little oversight as possible just like they did the mortgage business…Bottom line, when the sh*t hits the fan and private providers fail taxpayers would be faced with the alternative of a bailout or letting people, basically, die…And Republicans will take no blame when that happens….they never do,,

Republicans will want to provide as little oversight as possible just like they did the mortgage business
Indy: I think as time goes by you will see there was plenty of regulation but lending money, should I say forced to lend money ,to bad credit people is the problem. That as well as poor managers covering their rears with congressional sweetheart deals and campaign contributions.

Somebody should give McGrampa some milk and cookies and put him to bed, and tell Sarah to go back to mismanaging Alaska. McCain has been so disoriented this week that it’s clear he can’t even handle himself on the campaign trail, much less in the oval office. I think the Republicans should just sit this one out altogether, and we’ll let them know when their arraignments are scheduled.
McCain and his cadre of lobbyist advisors were still preaching the failed gospel of deregulation on Monday as the house of cards started to collapse, and he’s dedicated most of his career to the exact causes of this crisis. His attempt to pin it on Obama is just laughable, and even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board called him out on it! And once again, Obama’s plan as outlined last January and further explained in March was oddly ahead of the curve, just as was his call on a timetable for withdrawal of our forces in Iraq. Just as reality brought Bush and McCain in line with Barack’s plan for Iraq, reality will bring them around to his plan for restructuring the economy. McCain is just flailing about looking for a talking point, and everyone in the room knows that. Take the rest of the campaign off, John. We’ll take it from here.

Yes, people took mortgages out that they couldn’t afford, at the same time the bank loaned money to them. If you give a bum on the street 20 dollars and he promises to pay it back, do you really think you are going to see that cash again? The lenders have a responsibility to make sound business decisions, they did not. They had the money, and the power to say no.

It was the Democrats that got us into this mess in the first place. They wanted the minorities and others to be home owners when in fact, they did not have the income to do so. No money down and 50% of income for m onthly payments was not the way to do business. Some of these people did not even read the contracts before signing. This whole bail-out is pure socialism, Obama’s style.

To Arrogant Grammar:
It is really neither arrogance nor pretence necessarily that cause people to commit grammatical errors. Errors with regard to case, agreement and number are in my opinion violations of grammatical rules. Of more importance and interest to me are consistency, redundacy and other elements of grammatical logic. Overall grammatical correctness and intelligence do not really go hand in hand and I more impressed by an ability to think than impeccable grammar because I have found that neither guarantess the other. You may want to pay some attention to the warnings in the television commercials for aricept, crestor and lipitor. You will find than in all of them the same violation of grammatical logic occurs. By the way have you noticed how common it is among politicians and their surrogates and even television personalities to say, “There is..” in reference to plural nound? And even more common is “The reason is because..”

John McCain’s Campaign Manager Rick Davis is a Lobbyists for Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac, for some reason this is getting put below the surface.
Fact check also revealed that Sen. McCain received the most from Franny Mae directly from the CEO’s DIRECTORS< and the Executives. $162,000 toward his campaign
Sen. Obama received $120,000 directly from the Employees.
So get the facts straight.
Social Security if McCain had been in Office Social Security would Be GONE it would have gone down with the Financial Industry.
At least McCain's staff is telling the truth that he plans to Still After Wall Street Crashed put our Social Security Benefits on Wall Street. Better we know now!
McCain plans will do the same with our Health Insurance, Voters must read the plan it is also throwing us to the Market!
Main Street is Bailing Out Wall Street and McCain and the Republicans have bragged for years about NO GOVERNMENT, Less REGULATION
"GET THE FED OFF MY BACK'" NOW IT'S
WHERE'S THE GOVERNMENT WHO'S GOT MY BACK???????????BAIL ME OUT!
WALL STREET CAN NO LONGER TELL US LITTLE FOLK ABOUT TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING FOR THEIR GREED……………………….
THESE GUYS RANU UP A $10+TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT TALK ABOUT BIG GOVERNMENT?
IT OK AS LONG AS THEY ARE USING BIG GOVERNMENT TO GET RICH AT OUR EXPENSE

Obammy is a stupid blowhard.
God help us if he gets elected/.

As bad as the government is I’s still rather see the social security remain as it is. If some withholding company makes bad investments with our money and if what has happened occures, there goes our retirement and I don’t trust any company hired by the government.