Despite Claims Today He Warned of this Crisis, McCain in 2007 Said He Didn’t See This Crisis Coming
"Two years ago, I warned that the oversight of Fannie and Freddie was terrible, that we were facing a crisis because of it, or certainly serious problems," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told CBS this morning. "The influence that Fannie and Freddie had in the inside the Beltway, old boy network, which led to this kind of corruption is unacceptable and I warned about it a couple of years ago.”
How does this claim of foresight square with this interview that McCain gave to the Keene (NH) Sentinel, discussing the subprime mortgage crisis, in December 2007?
Q: “Well the dimension of this problem may be surprising to a lot of people, but to many people, to many others there were feelings that there was something amiss, something was going too fast, something was a little too hot. Going back several years. Were you one of them? Or, I mean you’re a busy guy, you’re looking at a lot of things, maybe subprime mortgages wasn’t something you focused on every day. Were you surprised?
McCain: “Yeah. And I was surprised at the dot-com collapse and I was surprised at other times in our history. I don’t know if surprised is the word, but…
Q: “S&Ls?”
McCain: “I don’t — what did you say?”
Q: “The S&Ls."
McCain: "Yeah, the S&Ls."
Q: "Is this bigger than that?
McCain: “I don’t know the dimensions of this. It’s hard to know what the dimensions are. As I say, I never thought I’d pick up the paper and see a city in Norway is somehow dramatically impacted by it. When I say ‘surprised’ I’m not surprised when in capitalist systems that there’s greed and excess. I think it was Teddy Roosevelt who said ‘unfettered capitalism leads to corruption’ or something like that, that people have disputed for years.
“But so, in this whole new derivative stuff, and SIBs and all of this kind of new ways of packaging mortgages together and all that is something that frankly I don’t know a lot about.
"But I do rely on a lot of smart people that I have that are both in my employ and acquaintances of mine. And most of them did not anticipate this. Most of them, I mean I can find some that did. But, a guy that’s on my staff named Doug Holtz-Eakin, who was once the head of the Office of Management and Budget, said that there was nervousness out there. There’s nervousness. There was nervousness that we had such a long period of prosperity without a downturn because of the history of our economy. But I don’t know of hardly anybody, with the exception of a handful, that said ‘wait a minute, this thing is getting completely out of hand and is overheating.’
"So, I’d like to tell you that I did anticipate it, but I have to give you straight talk, I did not.”
(Watch the whole thing HERE.)
– jpt
UPDATE: Again, people hear the word "claim" and assume I’m implying something that the word "claim" does not mean. (It means to assert as fact. It does not mean to FALSELY assert as fact.) McCain did indeed deliver a speech on the Senate floor in 2006 in which he warned of a problem with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the risks they posed to the housing market and the economy as a whole. But that said, any attempt to paint him as the Paul Revere of this current crisis doesn’t seem to square with his "straight talk" from November 2007.
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Posted by: Deep Release | September 17, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
I think the McCain that campaigns locally is the straight talker, which is why this election is close. However, when he gets on the national stage he seems to contradict himself quite often. This type of strategy used to work better before the Internet and 24 hour news cycle.
Posted by: SET | September 17, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
John McCain should be the star in every Barack Obama ad.
John McCain to Lilly Ledbetter: “women should work harder”
John McCain re Bush Tax cuts: “I cannot, in good conscience vote for this bill, so unbalanced in favor of the wealthy”
John McCain re health insurance: “We should tax employer provided health insurance”
Posted by: John | September 17, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
“A decade ago, Sen. John McCain embraced legislation to broadly deregulate the banking and insurance industries, helping to sweep aside a thicket of rules established over decades in favor of a less restricted financial marketplace that proponents said would result in greater economic growth. Now, as the Bush administration scrambles to prevent the collapse of the American International Group (AIG), the nation’s largest insurance company, and stabilize a tumultuous Wall Street, the Republican presidential nominee is scrambling to recast himself as a champion of regulation to end ‘reckless conduct, corruption and unbridled greed’ on Wall Street
Posted by: McCain is a Liar | September 17, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
You expected consistency from one day to the next? McCain throws himself under the bus yet again.
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 17, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Yea, but is anyone listening? No I do not think so. He knows it so he can say what he likes when he likes.
He is a liar and we like it.
Posted by: Thinking | September 17, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
So…McCain isnt as smart or truthful as he would like all of us to believe??
Posted by: Ricky | September 17, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Jake Tapper–
Shame on you, pointing this out is SEXIST.
Oh, wait it deals with McCain?
Don’t you know he was a POW for over 5 years?
Posted by: Witch King | September 17, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
McCain will tell any amount of lies to fool the people into voting for him. I am so glad that the media is starting to fact check what the candicates are saying so that the people can have the truth to make their decisions on. If he lies about so many things now why should we believe any promises he makes to us for the future.
Posted by: barb | September 17, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Will ABC report this/
NO.
Posted by: geevill | September 17, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
The bigger the financial mess, the more certain I am that McCain is just too OLD to deal with reality. His
worse decision to date has been PALIN. Of course, his
admission that he did not see the current mess coming really means that he won’t be on top of the next mess. The S&L scandal was McCain at his best—and he was about 20 years younger.
I am 70 years old and I am starting to worry about driving safely. McCain should retire to his homes in Coronado and just rest. An American hero deserves this at least.
Posted by: Rosario Gingras | September 17, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Amy, the New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. Stick to the discussion at hand instead of using distractions…John McCain didn’t see it coming before he did.
Posted by: Amy Distracts | September 17, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
You can warn about a big problem, but still be surprised at how serious the consequences are. He did warn about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and was ignored. But the fact that Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, AIG, and Merril-Lych also collapsed in the same short time period, is a surprise and to a lot of people, not just McCain.
Posted by: Mikah | September 17, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
The straight talk express had to be re-named its now “THE SNOW JOB EXPRESS”.
Posted by: polarbearkiller | September 17, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Emerson once said that a “foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” So doesn’t everyone see? Maybe McCain has taken this to heart because he seems to be unencumbered by any need to be consistent in what he says.
Posted by: MIguy | September 17, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
John McCain called the surge right.
John McCain called Frannie right.
2/2.
Obama? 0/2
Posted by: JA | September 17, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
You wait, the McCain camp and his supporters will find some way to blame what is actually coming out of his mouth on Obama.Wait!!! Wait!!! they are thinking 1.2.3—-
Posted by: barb | September 17, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
With these government bailouts of our failing financial markets, that McCain HELPED create, unlike Obama, the KEATING FIVE is now fair game.
We SAW first hand how McCain deals with bailouts.
Posted by: Witch King | September 17, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
It is forgetfullness or just plain lies?
Either way this man has no business running for president.
Posted by: clifton | September 17, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Wow, I thought the people of the United States were smart. I was completely wrong. Instead U.S. citizens decide they want to hate somebody (McCain), just because they want to. They will therefore listen to any guy (Tapper) who spins his stories in such a way as to purposely lead a peson to think badly of McCain. Then you people fall for it and think Tapper is such a wonderful person and you guys don’t do any research for yourself. A rat can do yes work. Can you guys at least do some research and come up with an original thought.
Posted by: Mikah | September 17, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
McCain should have seen this coming, after his adviser Phil Gramm sponsored the legislation that deregulated, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999. Google it.
Posted by: Voting Record Matters | September 17, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
No Obama has not done anything to cause the current financial mess, but during the two years that he did attend his job, he did not try to do anything about it. McCain at least tried to do something about it and this is not a lie. Don’t call something a lie just because it reflects well on somebody that you don’t like. This reflects poorly on you. Also the current financial mess is based on policies that were put into practice during the mid to late 1990s when Clinton was in office and politicians don’t look at the consequences of their policies until there is a hugely negative effect, like the one we are in now.
Posted by: Michelle | September 17, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
“McCain and running mate Sarah Palin, Alaska’s governor, say her state’s production of one-fifth of the country’s domestic energy supply is an important credential to put them in the White House. Their figure is inflated,” the AP reports. “The most recent figures show Alaska produced 3.4 percent of the nation’s total energy output in 2005. The state’s largest contribution to that figure was its oil production, which runs about 14 percent of the U.S. total. Alaska contributes about 2 percent of the nation’s natural gas production. It produces negligible amounts of coal and renewable energy, and has no nuclear energy. The only way to get close to the 20 percent figure is to look at Alaska’s proven oil reserves, the amount they have determined to be underground and available under current conditions, which amount to 18 percent of the U.S. total.”
Posted by: Palin is a Fraud | September 17, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Jim Johnson or Fraklin Raines probably saw it coming.
Posted by: John Loki | September 17, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Jake, you might want to hit the search button before you say something…McCain absolutely did call for more oversight of entities like Freddie and Fannie:
Here he is on the floor supporting S 190, to establish an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency dealing directly with the issue in 2006:
“Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives…
Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems…
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market…
If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole…”
Sounds like he predicted the issue to me.
Posted by: Wade | September 17, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Don’t accept LIES from the GOP, McCain did NOTHING
McCain Embraces Regulation After Many Years of Opposition
By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 17, 2008; Page A01
A decade ago, Sen. John McCain embraced legislation to broadly deregulate the banking and insurance industries, helping to sweep aside a thicket of rules established over decades in favor of a less restricted financial marketplace that proponents said would result in greater economic growth.
Posted by: Witch King | September 17, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Which Clinton policies would those be? The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which was sponsored by Phil Gramm an adviser to Senator McCain?
Posted by: ? for Michelle | September 17, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Voting Record Matters:
I think you need to follow your own advice and google the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. This Act was not deregulated in 1999, it was placed into effect in 1999. Nice try to seem smart though.
Posted by: Mikah | September 17, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
“John McCain called the surge right.
John McCain called Frannie right.
2/2. Obama? 0/2″
Nothing but republican logic.
If a guy comes and shoots you through the head, and then gives you a bandaid to help the bleeding, does that make him a better president? I’d vote for the guy that wouldn’t shoot me through the head in the first place.
Except, it’s 4,178 Americans shot through the head or blown up by land mines.
Next time you use stupid political phases like “the surge”, think for a moment what that means to a American parent, husband, wife, or child whos son, daughter, wife, husband, mother, or father was killed for NO reason in the Iraq war.
Who would have prevented their death?
McCain – No.
Obama – Yes.
And what did the Iraq war buy us?
4,178 dead Americans
30,000 wounded Americans
$1 Trillion in added national debt.
A stronger Al-Quaeda.
Posted by: clifton | September 17, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Everybody who pays attention and doesn’t see being a Democrat or Republican as being a fan of a sports team knows that McCain has always been strongly anti-regulation/for deregulation. What he tried to do yesterday and what he’s trying to do now is to sweep his previous 26 years under the rug and get folks to believe he is a pro-regulation reformer.
Serious folks should wonder who McCain really is, he’s obviously willing to say or do anything to get elected – what will he do should he win? Does anybody really know what kind of President he would be? Would he be the maverick, would be be the politician who voted with Bush 90% of the time, will be be anti-regulation or pro-regulation?
Posted by: Jonze | September 17, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
McCain was clearly talking about the MAGNITUDE of the problem, not the EXISTENCE of the problem…which is reasonable.
Posted by: Wade | September 17, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Moronic story. McCain is on record in 2006 making a statement introducing a bill he co-sponsored to reform Freddie and Fannie:
McCain: Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 1 90, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
Posted by: Jon | September 17, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
The legislation was passed in 1999. You don’t deregulate a bill.
Posted by: Mikah is Confused | September 17, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Forgetful old fool. He has no business running for President. God help us if him and his ugly counterpart gets in.
Posted by: disgusted | September 17, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
More MSM media bias. What happened to just reporting the news. Instead, the MSM is all about hit pieces……enough. No wonder the MSM is in financial peril….no one wants to listen to you anymore.
Posted by: Mike | September 17, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Dear Senator McCain —
You admitted that you didn’t know anything about the economy. You chose Phil Gramm, the deregulation king, to be your economic policy adviser. Do you think we have reason to believe that you will be able to tell good economic advice from bad economic advice and make a sound judgment? After putting up with Bush, do you think our country can afford to have another ill-informed president?
Perhaps it is time now for you to really put country first by admitting the facts and telling everyone that you won’t be a good choice for fixing the economy.
Posted by: chris | September 17, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Obama tried to stall troop withdrawl — Will ABC report this?
Posted by: amy | Sep
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AMY , maybe you could ask if you could be allowed to use some new talking points so you don’t look so silly.
I don’t think ABC news usually does report on information taken from cheap lounge acts.
Posted by: Truth Matters | September 17, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act was put into practice to overcome some of the short comings of the Glass-Steagal Act which was ratified in 1933 during the Great Depression. The Glass-Steagal Act was still in place in 1999 and had too many problems. That’s why the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act was put into practice. The GLB Act also allowed commercial and investment banks to consolidate. The practices allowed by the GLB Act are not was it the problem with the financial world today. It is the corruption of CEOs in companies like Lehman Brothers that is the problem and the Glass-Steagal Act was doing nothing to stop that corruption.
Posted by: Mikah | September 17, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
There is official Senate testimony from 2005 which proves he saw this coming! Look it up! It’s official stuff!!
Try again Jake!
Posted by: D'Obama | September 17, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
“Sounds like he predicted the issue to me.”
By cosponsoring a bill?
Obama authored a bill on this and submitted it again last year(after submitting it in 2006). Check out the STOP FRAUD act
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
McCain was part of the Keating 5! McCain has consistently supported deregulation! I don’t know why even Republicans aren’t departing him en masse. This man is so clearly inept and beyond his depth to deal with the country’s current problems. I wish Obama, Biden, Hillary, Bill, Richardson, Bayh, Macaskill, and anyone else with a voice would put this out there more than they are already doing. The average voter needs to know this stuff – McCain is part of the problem! His posture that he is going to “clean up Washington” is smoke and mirrors!
Posted by: jon in maryland | September 17, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
The current financial crisis is more complicated than we know now. McCain saying he does not know the whole extent of this mess is being honest (and really tells you has does have a grasp of what is happening). Obama is not a master on this subject either, but he would like you to believe that he is.
The corruption is bigger than the Feds have realized… there are many more players yet to be identified. This is not over by a long shot.
McCain stating that he does not know much about the economy is a sign of wisdom. Wise people know their limitations. There is now way that McCain’s background would make him a economics wonk, but realize that he actually does have a better grasp of the subject than the media or Obama report.
Calling for a nonpartisan commission to inquire as to how this was allowed to happen and to safeguard it from happening again is also a smart thing to do. It is time to clean up the greedy, corrupt leadership in Washington and US corporate offices.
Posted by: Leisa | September 17, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Gosh, many of you think de-regulation is horrible. News flash, its not when it could help the economy. Same goes for regulation. If it helps the economy, it is a good thing. Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 was a form of regulation, which in the short-run pushed many jobs overseas. However, in the long run it may help U.S. companies gain more credibility from investors, but that has yet to be seen.
Posted by: Mikah | September 17, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
McCain the Deregulator becomes McCain the Regulator overnight! We don’t even need to get into the Keating 5 to show what a miraculously transformative moment this is.
1999 – McCain supported Gramm-Leach-Bliely Act which removed walls between banking, investment and insurance companies that had been in place since the Great Depression. This bill is a large part of the reason we’re in the mess we’re in.
2007 – McCain says that he regretted voting for Sarbanes-Oxley which he’d supported after the Enron collapse. Business executives thought it was just too too much.
March, 2008 – McCain told the Wall St. Journal, “I’m always for less regulation. I’d like to see a lot of the unnecessary government regulations eliminated.”
It is become more and more impossible to believe anything that comes out of this man’s mouth.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | September 17, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
“McCain had joined with other Republicans to push through landmark legislation sponsored by then-Sen. Phil Gramm (Tex.), who is now an economic adviser to his campaign. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act aimed to make the country’s financial institutions competitive by removing the Depression-era walls between banking, investment and insurance companies.
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That bill allowed AIG to participate in the gold rush of a rapidly expanding global banking and investment market. But the legislation also helped pave the way for companies such as AIG and Lehman Brothers to become behemoths laden with bad loans and investments.”
Posted by: WA Post | September 17, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
When capitalism breaks, it fixes itself and gets better. When Socialism breaks, you become Cuba.
McCain is a Capitalist; Obama a Socialist!
You decide!!
Posted by: D'Obama | September 17, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Mikah, show me: where/when did McCain warn against Fannie/Freddie problems?
Posted by: hang | September 17, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
John McCain is a tired old man.
Posted by: DMR | September 17, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Mar of 2008 while speaking about the housing crisis, John McCain said
“Our financial market approach should include encouraging increased capital in financial institutions by removing regulatory, accounting and tax impediments to raising capital”
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Jake, you’ve been one of the less biased members of the MSM calling out lies on both sides, so why are you going along with the media silence on McCain’s Fannie Mae speech in 2005 and Obama’s undermining of foreign policy in Iraq? Are the media so in the tank that Sarah’s tanning bed and stupid gotcha word games are more important than real issues like Obama violating the Logan Act?
Posted by: Samuel | September 17, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
“I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”
-John McCain, Senate Floor, 2005
Posted by: D'Obama | September 17, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Hang, read my post…at least as early as May 2006. SB 190.
Posted by: Wade | September 17, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
“McCain is a Capitalist; Obama a Socialist!”
“For too long, government has been the voice of Big Business, not small business,” McCain said. Referring to recent examples of executives at housing and finance companies who walked off with big pay packages just as their companies cratered, McCain denounced CEOs who left troubled companies and then were “packed off with another 40 or 50 million for the road.” He said that under his proposed reforms, “all aspects of a CEO’s pay, including any severance agreements, must be approved by shareholders.”
The idea, known informally among executive-pay activists as Say on Pay, put McCain into strange company: It has been promoted heavily by unions, and it was introduced in the Senate in April by none other than Barack Obama.
ABC News’ Lisa Chinn and Jennifer Parker report: Republican ticket mates John McCain and Sarah Palin Monday blasted corporate executives who leave their company with a “golden parachute” and pledged to “stop multimillion dollar payouts” to CEOs, seeming to forget their own top economic adviser Carly Fiorina walked away with $45 million, including a $21.4 million severance package when she was dismissed by Hewlett Packard in 2005.
Posted by: McCain Can't Run a Business | September 17, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Jake,
You’re better than this. As someone stated earlier, McCain sponsored a bill (Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190)in 2005 and gave a very prophetic speech outlining exactly what was going down with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
This was going to be a bill to place reforms in place to sop it. The bill was not even voted out of committee due to among others, Chris Dodd. Just read the man’s speech from the floor and come back and tell us he didn’t forsee the problem. This 2005 bill is what McCain was referencing in his speech a few days when he said he did see the issues.
Posted by: Lara | September 17, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Wade,
That bill may have been reintroduced in 2006 but it was originally intro’d in 2005.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
can we put up some kind of ticker or pool
how many times this guy and his gal pals (Fiorina and Palin) lie?
Per day , or per week and maybe even a spread on the amount of outrageous bologne they do for the entire campaign.
somebody oughta set up a “lie clock” in Times Square…and just keep track of how many times republicans are lying…
see if they can top the last 8 years in one campaign.
Posted by: dl (the real one) | September 17, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
you want to know what obama’s idea’s are in line with, check out illinois gov.blagoivich which is also friends with obama,ayers,and rezko. oh, and by the way, he’s being investigated and never answer’s question’s from anybody, even authorities, sounds familiar. obama voted present 132 times, so why do you think he did that? so he would not have a record on the policies the gov. put in place but always says he agree’s with what the gov. was doing, so why did’nt he vote yes? so he won’t have a record to look at with ignorant polices. he said he would tax the rich, well, he did but he even tax the lower class and middle class after he said he would not and also give tax breaks which he never did. the only one’s he did’nt hurt were union rep. (not the worker’s!) and ceo’s in chicago. the whole state has suffered from his polices which is exactly the same as obama, so please don’t be fooled! the gov. chased corporation’s he was not in bed with out of state and small business companies closed and can’t hire due to high taxes. when i said he raised taxes, he raised them on everybody and everything! he’s closing state parks, prison’s, museum’s, etc… how did he get elected twice? buy blaming the illinois republican congress and President Bush for the problem’s.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
McCain more lies and confusion or more confusion and lies. Either way…
Posted by: ed | September 17, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
“Gosh, many of you think de-regulation is horrible. News flash, its not when it could help the economy. Same goes for regulation.”
Perhaps you could point to where deregulation helped the economy.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
How can anyone say McCain is lying. Just look up Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190 and see his comments about it. You are proven wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt!
He wasn’t lying, he saw it coming. A fact is a fact! Anyone trying to dispute this must never have heard of Google.
Posted by: D'Obama | September 17, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
why don’t you write an article about Obama got $185,000 in 3 years from Fannie/Freddie. Other receivers are Sen Tod & Sen Clinton.
Posted by: adam | September 17, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
He’s a bafoon. Who in their right mind would vote for this guy for anything???
Obama’s the same: both just showmen auditioning for a part. And each one of them will lie, cheat and steal to get it.
If I can’t write in Ron Paul I’ll vote a third party. ANYBODY else other than these guys.
Posted by: Don | September 17, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Lara
Mccain has said over and over “deregulation”
He just hired the guy to write his economic policy that set up and authored the legislation that allowed this and AIG’s enormous growth and greed to be so big we are dependent on this one company not failing…and thus HAVE to give them 85 billion out of our pockets because his buddies’ companies have gotten a blank check from the US federal government.
Yes Phil gramm has a lot to answer for…
so instead of Mccain taking Phil gramm and the rest of the slimey deregulation lobbyists to task
he hires him to plan our economic future.
what the heck are you arguing for this guy for.
He wants to follow and empower the people who did this to handle it
in other words mccain isn’t just letting the fox in the hen house…
he has now become the fox in the hen house.
and the guy
Posted by: dl (the real one) | September 17, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
ok – abc – now you really are showing your colors with all the mccain stories.. am i supposed to take u guys seriously?
gibson’s interview started it and since then BIAS, BIAS – just rename your politics divison – OBAMAnews
Posted by: sokadija | September 17, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
The democrats received 10 million $ from Wall Street. A close member of Obama´s team, James Johnson, worked for Fannie Mae.
So this is really change. Gosp …
Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 17, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
McCain simply can not tell the truth.I guess that is why Sarah was a good pick for him….
Posted by: jim | September 17, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
MccainPalin Presidency – a Phil Gramm economy.
the guy who got 750 000 dollars this last year alone…for lobbying for the deregulation that mccain and some of his moron supporters are trying to say he was against…
HEHIRED GRAMM THE “DEREGULATION GUY”…THE AUTHOR OF THE ENRON LOOPHOLE AND CHAMPION FOR THESE WEALTHY CEO’S FROM ENERGY AND FINANCAIAL MARKETS
TO PLAN OUR ECONOMIC FUTURE.
yes finally it has to be said …to vote for Mccain/Gramm
is economic stupidity unless you are corporate CEO whose company is about to take a beating but you are with a golden parachute…thus Carly Fiorina backs Mccain.
Posted by: dl (the real one) | September 17, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Are some of you logically challenged? In 2005, on the Senate Floor, McCain warned us all about this:
“I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”
So obviously, he is not lying. He saw this coming a while ago …. but it was Democrats who stood in the way!
Look it up! That’s what Google’s for! Look up “McCain’s Fannie Mae speech in 2005″ and you’ll soon be certain McCain wasn’t lying!!
Case closed!!!
Posted by: D'Obama | September 17, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
richardcranium
no she doesn’t know what she is saying
that is the point…
sad that people can be taken again just like 2004, wmd, the war, katrina, the economic plundering, the energy silence, CIA operatives, …lies lies lies
and now they go for a 9th year.
Throw these bums out
Posted by: dl (the real one) | September 17, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
D’Obama
yet Mccain didn’t regulate the financials or other banks…
and then hired the guy that fought for this…as you all like to say
the speech was just that …. a speech…
nothing more.
Posted by: dl (the real one) | September 17, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
why don’t you write an article about Obama got $185,000 in 3 years from Fannie/Freddie”
Because Obama only got $118K over the entire course of his political career (this is his 12th year in public office) from employees at Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac.
That could be a reason.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
McCain=IDIOT! Obama is a fool… Just can’t you wait til November!!! Oh joy! Oh joy!
Posted by: argh! | September 17, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
McCain calling for a new regulatory body to replace the old one is not reform.
His now calling for regulation in the face of a 26 year career being a free market advocate railing against regulation is laughable.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
The second largest recipient of political contributions from lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was Barack Obama—-the very firms that the government just had to bail out?!
So here we have Senator Obama taking all this money from Fannie and Freddie, and what did they get in return? Maybe a smile for the money and a snooze and or “40 winks” from Obama to continue their reckless lending policies—or Obama lacks judgment and never guessed that the lending practices were happening. Perhaps none of his advisors told him about this severe problem going on???????
Posted by: Mike | September 17, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
One McCain advisor is the master of Deregulation and has been so for more than a decade. Perhaps, this person is most responsible for our current crisis. Another McCain advisor is the queen of the Golden Parachute — and a poster women for lousy CEOs who were not held accountable, rather personally rewarded for their failures. Meanwhile, the candidate himself has more than a half dozen houses and is married to women who unwaveringly spends $300,000 on an evening outfit, while people lose their houses!
How McCain can try to wear the mantle of a populist agent for changes that would be to the benefit of most of us is too much to bear. He is a fraud — a wolf trying to fit in a sheep’s clothing.
Posted by: Archaeologist | September 17, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Again, there is good regulation and bad regulation. Regulation that keeps companies from entering into risky practices with nothing to back the company up if the venture fails is a good thing. Regulation that creates too much red tape and does not allow businesses to grow or perform legitimate transactions easily is bad. There also needs to be limits on regulations because, old regulations do not leave the books for decades, even when they are out of date, the danger is no longer applicable, and it keeps companies from doing business which will help the economy.
Posted by: Mikah | September 17, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Is this all the MSM is good for anymore?
To twist around the words of one candidate to the benefit of another?
It is not hard to find documentation of where McCain warned of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac problems in 2005.
Obama turns around and hires the Fannie Mae CEO to vet his Vice-Presidential candidates….and why not? He would certainly know how much money Fannie Mae, et.al. have funneled to Obama….why not have a say so in his V.P. pick????
Why don’t you guys just do your job for once and report BOTH sides fairly.
Posted by: SandyB | September 17, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Phil Gramm’s bill was not good deregulation. Regardless of whether or not parts of the Glass-Steagal Act were outdated. Now McCain puts the blame on the greedy CEOs, but the taxpayers are left holding the bill. This is about judgment.
Headline from the Washington Post today, “McCain Embraces Regulation After Many Years of Opposition”.
Posted by: SET | September 17, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Hey, McCain probably just forgot what he said in 2007. This happens a lot with McCain. Remember someone had to remind him two days in a row that Czechoslovakia no longer exists.
Posted by: tony | September 17, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
S. 109.
Interesting. Why didn’t McCain co-sponsor the same the Bill when it was re-introduced again by Chuck Hagel as S. 1100 on April 12, 2007?
I guess he was too busy campaigning to be that opportunistic. Surely the problem with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac hadn’t resolved itself by then.
It seems to me that Chuck Hagel is the one with forsight here, not McCain.
Posted by: McFlip Flop | September 17, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Apples and Oranges – Subprime vs. Freddy and Fannie out of control. He is pretty clear in his Senate floor speech that Fannie is cooking the books and putting our economy at risk. Subprime is only a small part of our problems now.
Posted by: Chase | September 17, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
richardcranium1,
Your post is a masterpiece. But unfortunately you have a lot of people who are ignoring the FACTS you’re kicking & will vote for McCain simply because he’s GOP & he’s not black. That’s all that matters to them. This election is definitely going to show all of these people who actually believe that the color of your skin doesn’t matter anymore is just like McCain saying our economy is strong, absolute bs!! Our country is in complete shambles. Major corporations are crumbling right before our eyes & why, because the party that’s in power right now allowed it to happen so that a handful of rich people could get richer at the expense of all the rest of us. And you have a large contingent of Americans who would rather continue down this course before they would vote for a black man. You have people who would rather pay $5-6 dollars a gallon for gas before they’d vote for a black man. You have people who would rather continue to see our young women & men die in a war than to vote for a black man. How much evidence does one need to see that John McCain wants no parts of the issues that face our country. He’s far more occupied with finding ways to divert our attention away from the issues, hence Sarah Palin. Sorry, you’re going to put someone way finer than Sarah Palin in front of me to make me forget about high gas prices, a crumbling housing market, an unjustified war, exorbitant college expenses,& the fact that he sold out his first wife something awful. Sarah Palin can’t make me forget all that for a second. She ain’t that fine. And now you have a lot of white people talking about “I’d vote for Colin Powell” Yeah, right. That’s easy to say since he’s not on the ballot. We are the most hypocritical society in the world, no wonder all the other countries are laughing at us. Not voting for Obama has nothing to do with him being elitist, nothing to do with being inexperienced, nothing to do with him being Muslim. This has everything to do with him being BLACK, plain & simple.
Posted by: Dee Tee Gee | September 17, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
If you talk out of both sides of your mouth, you’re always going to be able to claim that you were on the right side of the issues.*
*Of course, thanks to people like Tapper and the fact-checkers, we will see that you were also on the wrong side of the issues.
John McCain is not a leader. He is a flim-flam artist.
Posted by: Rick | September 17, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
What experience in economy has Mr. America community organizer? Maybe he was given lessons by Reszko. How much money did he receive from Fannie Mae?
Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 17, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
The transformation from the old McCain to the new McCain is striking. Where did he go?
Posted by: anon | September 17, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
“why don’t you write an article about Obama got $185,000 in 3 years from Fannie/Freddie” Because Obama only got $118K over the entire course of his political career (this is his 12th year in public office) from employees at Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. That could be a reason. …. Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 17, 2008 1:25:14 PM
Well ha ha like even Fannie Mae is stupid enough or somehow prescient enough to give to the One when he’s a state senator which he was 3 1/2 years ago!!!???
Posted by: robert b | September 17, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Game changer. McCain has lost track of himself? Let’s not let him get to the White House.
Posted by: kravitz | September 17, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
“What experience in economy has Mr. America community organizer?”
Carly Fiorina is supposedly a saavy business woman.
She ran HP into the ground costing tens of thousands of jobs and walked away with a golden parachute with tens of millions of dollars.
That the kind of biz experience McCain counts on, f the little guy, I got mine.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
In late 2005, John MccCain voiced his concern about the lack of oversight in loose money lending on overextended credit within these two federal monopolies…… which were chaired by Democrats…. some of whom became quite rich while Fannie and Freddy were heading down the tubes.
This was done in a doctrine…. all in writing and confirmable and, in essence, it pretty much prophesized exactly what happened this past week-end!
What was Obama doing at that time?
Well, he was taking a lot of money…. I think he was the second most successful benefactor… followed by Hillary….
I guess Obama was a believer in Polonius… “neither a borrower nor a lender be”.. whenever possible, TAKE, TAKE, TAKE… whether in the form of pork bellies or money lending fees…
be good to thyself.
In any case, MCCain voiced his concerns, not stopping until today, when our government lent tons and buckets of money to AIG!
Obama, was too busy to say anything about Fanny and Freddy until now because he ws too busy raking in the dough……. and that’s ok bcause he’s a Chicago style politician.
Thank Goodnes,McCain is NOT!
Posted by: america*centric | September 17, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Ryan,
Thanks for the clarification, I guess McCain was more prescient than I thought.
Posted by: Wade | September 17, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
ddg:
“But unfortunately you have a lot of people who are ignoring the FACTS you’re kicking & will vote for McCain simply because he’s GOP & he’s not black?”
————–
… and isn’t it possible that people are voting for McCain because of the way Obama ‘dissed” Hillary, and because of the way he vacillates and stammers and stutters…..and because of the way he “slammed” the surge and couldn’t say anything good about it until after his nomnation was sealed at his unwieldy overly-expensive convention?
MY reason is that I live in Illinois, and I can still see the unfinished low-cost housing developments begun during his first reign as a state senator!
Obama has political ADD coupled with BS
and a skinny resume.
And he still hasn’t been vetted by an independent jury!
Posted by: america*centric | September 17, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Real Clear Politics electoral map update:
Obama 286
McCain 252
with no toss up states
Posted by: Blue in Michigan | September 17, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
“Thanks for the clarification, I guess McCain was more prescient than I thought”
Wade,
I would disagree on the reform that was proposed but to say McCain has not spoken about this would not be true.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Senator “Honor” can try to revise history and himself daily, but it won’t work. Bush 44!
The sequel is always worse than the original.
Posted by: cs | September 17, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
So not knowing how far awide the ripples from the event would travel equates to not knowing something is wrong? Yeah nice apples and oranges comparison there.
Though its good to see Obama talking so tought. I’m sure the two former CEO’s of Fannie Mae (Johnson and Baines) he listens to will do wonders with whatever plan he comes up with. Though that plan will probably need some fine tuning, guess thats up to Penny Pritzer who was or is his finance chair. She of course was also the chair of superior Bank of Chicago which went belly up (and was seized) and has been ordered by the courts to pay $435 million as well as the organizer of Barry’s $28,500 a plate celebrity fundraiser. If they need to work over time I’m sure the over $400k Barry got from Lehman’s or the $126k he got from Fannie and Freddie (both of which are quite a bit more then McCain got) should pay off the OT.
Posted by: Zaggs | September 17, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Obama violated the Logan Act during his visit in Iraq.
Time for the MSM to report the truth.
Posted by: harry | September 17, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Ryan,
I can buy your take on that…
The article is about whether he was aware about it, called for action, etc. I think we can both agree that Jake is off on that narrow point.
Whether the R or D side did anything of real value to prevent the crisis is another issue. Frankly, the financial regs are so complex that I can’t really make a judgment (betraying my ignorance here)…however, “more oversight” seems to be what everyone is saying would have been the right thing to do…probably so.
Posted by: Wade | September 17, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
There he goes again (Jake that is). Yes, McCain was talking about the need to make changes with structure and oversightof Freddie/Fannie. Yes, he was surprised at the dimension/impact that the subprime collapse had on US and global basis.
One “crisis” is specific to two institutions, the other “crisis” is something of an unprecedented phenomenon integrated and exacerbated by other issues.
Inconsistent? – not at all.
Posted by: ENF | September 17, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Wade,
I agree that it is an R AND D problem.
Because only compromise on immediate reform is going to begin to change things.
Right now confidence in the market is is a very bad position.
A bipartisan bill issuing a few common sense regs and maybe adding some staff to things like the SEC and other regulatory bodies would go a long way to easing some fears while real reform (which could take years to be effective) can be negotiated then enacted.
Pipe dream given the attention span of Congress? Probably.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Hello this is MY thread!
Obama campaign pays me .25 cents per post.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Stephen from Indiana writes, “What experience in economy has Mr. America community organizer? Maybe he was given lessons by Reszko. How much money did he receive from Fannie Mae?
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I don’t know. Maybe it was when he was a State Legistlator for Illinois from 1997 to 2004? Maybe as a U.S. Senator? As far as Rezco? You would impress us all more if you knew anything about the Keating 5. I don’t know about the folks in Indiana but I’d sure as heck would listen to the Columbia and Harvard graduate talk about the economics before the guy who graduated almost LAST at the Naval Academy and someone who played musical colleges during over a period of 6 years.
Posted by: Dems | September 17, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
I can’t stand it when people list how many years a person has in office as something they have done or accomplished.
You can spend 100 years in office and not accomplish anything. Also, before its mentioned that anyone (Obama) signed over 100 bills: that does not equal accomplishment. You can sign thousands of bills. That does mean you worked on the research or drafting of that bill.
Plus I don’t care where you got your schooling if you haven’t done anything with it. Please don’t write the typical response to this statement. It does not impress me.
As for the guy who finished 5th from the bottom and the gal who went to more than 2 schools. Well, one is a war hero who has fought to stop this financial crisis, (See: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190) which was presented in 2005. The other has actually accomplished starting the construction of a natural gas pipeline from AK to the lower 48. NO ONE else could do this in the past 30 YEARS.
Again, for those people who just don’t get it. I want someone who will see a problem or opportunity even if it is years away and work towards either solving or accomplishing that goal. McCain and Palin have done that. Obama definitely has not and nobody seems to be talking about Biden because he truly is “more of the same.”
Posted by: Mikah | September 17, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
It’s a fact that McCain sounded the alarm and tried to reform Fannie and Freddie in 2005, but Congress would have none of it.
It’s also a fact that Obama hasn’t done one darned thing to avert or correct this except tell us how bad off we all are and how awful everything is and how a Depression is just an election away in order to scare up some votes.
Posted by: marylou | September 17, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
John McCain’s neck must hurt from constantly swiveling his head around. What I really want to know is why is he lying so much? He used to be a good guy, wasn’t he? Is his real record so bad that he can’t run on it? Is his memory so bad that he no longer remembers what he believes? It’s so bizarre. (are we sure his cancer hasn’t gone to his brain? I know that sounds mean, but I’m really worried about him. He needs to see a doctor.)
Posted by: Angry American Voter | September 17, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Angry American Voter:
Again more generalities with no factual comments to back it up. As to cancer. McCain does not have cancer right now and when he did it was skin cancer, the easiest cancer to treat. Many people with skin cancer go in for a short operation and are completely fine the next day.
Posted by: Mikah | September 17, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
dems – do you even understand what kind of grades or the the amount of test you have to take to get into the naval academy or west point! conections or family has nothing to do with that decision who’s accepted! he operated a jet fighter plane, can you do that! i rather take a naval acacdemy grad any day before a liberal taught ivy league grad. by the way, you libs talk high about president clinton, where did he go to college at, hhmmm! not the ivy league, and i think other than moral’s, he’s way smarter than obama and the naval and west point academy goes search for smart for future strong and smart candidate’s!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
“It’s a fact that McCain sounded the alarm and tried to reform Fannie and Freddie in 2005, but Congress would have none of it.”
His reform wasn’t really much of a reform. And McCain didn’t sound the alarm. He became cosponsor of a bill that was not picked up.
“It’s also a fact that Obama hasn’t done one darned thing to avert or correct this except”
Obama AUTHORED the Stop Fraud act which has been intro’d twice (in 2006 and again in 2007) but it was not acted upon.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
With the financial sector in turmoil today, the media and the politicians have started throwing around blame with the same recklessness as lenders threw around credit to create the problem. Politically, the pertinent question is this: Which candidate foresaw the credit crisis and tried to do something about it? As it turns out, John McCain did — and partnered with three other Senate Republicans to reform the government’s involvement in lending three years ago, after an attempt by the Bush administration died in Congress two years earlier. McCain spoke forcefully on May 25, 2006, on behalf of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Posted by: new republican | September 17, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
That’s not surprise he doesn’t see the disaster of Iraq coming when he vote in favor of War .He support deregulations and then argue about the circus of Wall Street .A person who talk against the Government but he favors the government interference .A person who pick the Vice-president nominee only after one meeting
What you can say about his judgment? Oh just a minute he said the fundamentals of the economy are strong .Probably he was thinking about the family Business.
Was hilarious to watch Cindy McCain, when Senator McCain on his speech talks about the big salaries of the CEO’s, and how greedy they are.
Posted by: foreclosure | September 17, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
“do you even understand what kind of grades or the the amount of test you have to take to get into the naval academy or west point! connections or family has nothing to do with that decision who’s accepted”
His father was a 4 star admiral.
His grandfather was a 4 star admiral.
He ended up in the literal bottom 5 of his class of nearly 900.
He was an obvious legacy admission.
Even McCain talks about being a screw up following in his father & grandfather;s footsteps because that was the family job (like being a cop or fireman) and it was his POW that really transformed.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
ryan c – he might not have been like his father and grandfather, but where is the controversy of him getting in, it’s not there! his father stated he will not have any comment’s or decision’s on his son’ acceptance into the acacdemy. at least he applied to the academy to serve his country instead of his self-interest! obama had the grades to get in, but did he also have the leadership skills which is noticed by interview’s that the academy goes through which account’s for the majority of one’s points of acceptance! you wanna talk about stupid decisions, obama smoked pot, snorted coke and drank! McCain was just a rebel doing prankes which caused him demerit’s which by the point system at the academy, which caused him points to be at the bottom of his class. they both did stupid crap when they where young as most of us did!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
There’s nothing controversial about McCain getting in on legacy.
Why you would deny that is strange.
I also think its funny that you talk about leadership displayed by a “rebel” who racked up so many demerits that he finished in the bottom of his class.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Article confuses Fannie/Freddie with collateralized subprime debt.
Posted by: Tristan | September 17, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
A former Naval Academy midshipman who was imprisoned alongside John McCain is the narrator of a new television ad that bashes the Republican candidate by saying being a prisoner of war is not a good prerequisite for being president
He is right to be a ex POW qualified you like a great American BUT IS NOT WHAT MAKE YOU A PRESIDENT
Posted by: foreclosure | September 17, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Obama – number 2 in political contributions from Fannie and Freddie.
His buddy, Senator Dodd, was number 1.
Penny Pritzker, Obama’s national finance chair was, with her family, the half owner of Superior Bank, which was shut down in 2001 by the FDIC after it had lost nearly all of its more than $2 billion of assets on bad loans to high-risk borrowers, federal regulators said.
Posted by: Zank | September 17, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
ryan c – it was never about legacy, in the military from start to finish, you have to prove yourself. why do you think he moved on to politics when he could not make it to admiral. it is harder to get promoted in the military than in politics because they look at the whole picture, which is the problem with liberal’s. the military even said McCain had the knowlegde and mental ability to be an admiral but not physicaly which is still an requirement at that age. his father was retired at that time, still with pull in the navy, so why did he not become a admiral, get your liberal facts straight. his father was not going to pave his son’s path for him, he had to earn it, which is what McCain’s grandfather said and did to McCain’s father! only because of the torture that caused the physical damage
done to him, he was rejected for promotion. you seriously don’t have your fact’s right and no heart of understanding which is a common place problem with you liberal’s. you people are the wizard of oz all over again!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
foreclosure – who in the hell ever said being and ex-pow qualifies a person to be president, nobody! only the left brings that comment up. what qualifies an ex-community organizer to be president! McCain still has more legislative experience by many more years and has a record, where is obama’s, i asked, WHERE IS OBAMA’S!!! i know, it does’nt exist! oh, i forgot, PRESENT, how many time’s!!!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
The Republicans were in control in 2005 when the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act didn’t make it past introduction in 2005.
In 2007, when the bill was reintroduced, flip-flop McCain was nowhere to be found as a co-sponsor.
McLiar has flip-flopped and fibbed too much to know where he really stands on anything unless it means waging a war.
Posted by: cleduc | September 17, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Gee, imagine that. Exaggerations and flat out lies. It took the press some time to get over their years of fawning over McCain but they are finally doing their job and digging in to his comments.
Posted by: dave | September 17, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Timmaaaa,
So your logic is that because McCain;s dad did not make him admiral that means his father did nothing to assist his son?
The Navy gave a guy who finished at the bottom of his class a slot in the pilot program.
When he came home from the Hanoi Hilton, they saddled him with one of the worst outfits they had stateside.
What changed?
Losing Vietnam.
The rw likes to recount the Rambo myth of lefties spitting on returning vets.
But the truth is many people felt that the soldiers had lost Vietnam. That they had brought dishonor to our country.
After his stint as commander, he became a liasion which is basically career dead end.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
What an Ostrich and the Republicans have in common?Let me guess::::::
Both hide their head on the sand and pretend everything is fine
An ostrich bury its head in the sand and pretend everything is fine
Republicans do the same and follow McCain
America and the world is suffering with the blunders of Bush Administration
The economy have crumple and the prosperity of many people are under risk not only in America but also worldwide.
Because America doesn’t stand alone world have turn into a very small place and everything is linked
John McCain and Sarah Palin promise of change: Is a change to Nowhere
This election is not only about some bridge in Alaska it is about all the bridges and roads in all the o United States because they are all crying out for repairs and maintenance. This is because for the last 8 years the Bush and the Republicans havespent enormous amounts to build up Iraq and they have forgotten about the needs of their own country.
Posted by: foreclosure | September 17, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Cripes, McCain has no grip on the truth at all. He’s still repeating the “Alaska supplies 20% of our energy” lie, for crying out loud. Can anyone seriously imagine this bumbling, lying fool as president?
Worse, who here can imagine Palin taking charge of the economy? My last parking citation would make a better “Ticket for America”!
Posted by: Tungsten | September 17, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Timmaaa7 you are missing the point .What makes a President is the right Judgment. Be cool like coo camber in time of crisis. Not have 7 houses or family business hundred million dollars worth. Do not have the temper to pick a fight but the temper to fight every day make the life of the community around you better.
Make your luck alone against the tide and not be a pilot with the wings of your father
Posted by: foreclosure | September 17, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
ryan c – his dad never had the power to make him admiral! the military serves the country, not politician’s. if he used gov employee’s to further his career in the military their would be a record of past coruption, none, only honor! and what do you mean assist? that’s what liberal’s do, assist! welfare, unemployment, etc… that’s what liberal’s do, say the help the people but only put them on a gov support system they never get off. that’s how they get their votes! at least after 5yrs of torture McCain got back on his feet by self determination without the help of his father other than moral support! that’s a true father and a portrait of the true American way and spirt!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
spirit! forgive me for the typo.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
“if he used gov employee’s to further his career in the military their would be a record of past coruption”
Keating Five ring any bells?
Or his “honorable” actions reagrding his 1st wife?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
John McCain perception of the issues is pathetic
It is really sad once analyze why McCain select Palin for running mate.
The only criterion was how he could win this election despite the best interest of the country and the American people His CAMPAIGN is SPIN, LIES and LIPSTICK
Posted by: foreclosure | September 17, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
REMEMBER? It’s the ECONOMY stupid
Posted by: foreclosure | September 17, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
I don’t think McCain wants the S&L crisis coming up in the press.
The idea that McCain is now going to regulate private business is bizarre.
Posted by: cincyr | September 17, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Mr. Tapper, it is a shame your article was not fact checked, otherwise you would have discovered the 2005 bill Senator McCain introduced in order to control Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, or the 2002 bill Senator McCain co-sponsored with House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt to create the Corporate Subsidy Reform Commission, or read Senator McCain’s comments to Keene Sentinel closely and see they were in reference to the S&L crisis, not Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Senator McCain was way out in front on warning about Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and, unlike Senator Obama, did not receive campaign contributions from them.
Posted by: David Appleby | September 17, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Just wondering you are for real?
It is so inspiring to see people with so mush to live ahead of them .To support the spring chicken John McCain
Posted by: foreclosure | September 17, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
The issue is not whether he was able to forecast the intensity of the collapse…no one did. The question is whether he had the foresight to propose increased regulation. He did. Obama, Pelosi and Frank did not. Spin it how you like; those are the facts.
Posted by: John | September 17, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
you are wrong Jack…here is McCain in 2005:
John McCain. 25 May 2005, speaking to the Senate:
Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
The legislation was blocked by Democrats, with the assistance of a few Republicans.
Posted by: Frieda | September 17, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Pile it on, Jake – McCain is still the best choice. I would take anyone over BHO – even Cynthia what’s-her-name! NOBAMA – ever!
Posted by: Beckie | September 17, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
McCain is a capitalist? What do you call it when taxpayers bail out failing companies like AIG, Bear Stearns, or Lehman? You nitwits have it backwards. McCain and his Republican pals want it both ways. The like private enterprise, so they can privatize the PROFITS. But they LOVE socialism because they can socialize (i.e., foist on taxpayers) the LOSSES. In the meantime, families lose their homes, their pensions, and sometimes their savings. And to add insult to injury, the executives get multi-million dollar severance packages. To support this Republican bullcrap you have to either be in the top .5 percent of all U.S. earners or you’re an idiot.
Posted by: DaveK | September 17, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
“The question is whether he had the foresight to propose increased regulation. He did. Obama, Pelosi and Frank did not”
John,
McCain did not propose the legislation. He cosponsored it.
Obama authored the STOP Fraud Act in 2006 and again intro’d it in 2007.
Nothing came of either bill by either candidate.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
“unlike Senator Obama, did not receive campaign contributions from them. ”
While Obama has taken in roughly $120K from employees of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac, McCain has accepted contributions from them as well(around $15K).
Why do right wingers take a perfectly good line of attack and lie about it?
Is it stupidity? Is it a need for there the issue to black and white?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
ryan c – keating 5, investigated, no charges! affair with another woman while married, i don’t need to get into personal marital matter, thats to judgemental especially when his ex had an affair too. happen’s alot with military families!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
McCain did forewarn about the potential negative impact of practices at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. I give him that. But, after 20 something years in the Senate I would expect McCain to have made some accurate predictions; not that he ever did much about it mind you. However, it is his overall record (e.g., war and deregulation policies to say the least) that are at issue.
Posted by: Joe | September 17, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
No doubt that earlier statement re: need for more deregulation uttered by John McCain is his real point of view. He must thinks we are all too dumb to realize he and his buddies are the very ones who entered us into the era of Unfettered Greed. This guy is clueless and a greater illustration that they are clueless could not be more perfect than this meltdown after he and his buddies push extreme deregulation. Welcome to the recession everyone, courtesy of this administration that pushed deregulation beyond acceptable boundaries.
Posted by: Mari | September 17, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Ron Paul warned of this disaster 5 YEARS ago. McSane doesn’t know his arse from his elbow…he’s going to talk like he knows anything about Economics. He couldn’t even answer an economic question from Ron Paul during a primary debate.
What an ASS? Vote McBama…we’re McScrewed.
VOTE 3rd Party. Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr ANYONE but McBama.
Posted by: robotsworld | September 17, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Ron Paul warned of this disaster 5 YEARS ago. McSane doesn’t know his arse from his elbow…he’s going to talk like he knows anything about Economics. He couldn’t even answer an economic question from Ron Paul during a primary debate.
What an ASS? Vote McBama…we’re McScrewed.
VOTE 3rd Party. Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr ANYONE but McBama.
Posted by: robotsworld | September 17, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
joe – what about biden’s 30 plus year’s, and he did nothing, hmm?
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
And if Tapper googled a little harder he would see that McCain’s not making a “claim” — he really did anticpate the problems with GSEs and see them as a systemic financial problem. He even sponsored legislation to deal with it:
”
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole. ”
This legislation was stonewalled by Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Nancy Pelosi all on the dole from Fannie and Freddie.
Posted by: CS | September 17, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
The headline is obviously meant to imply that the claim is less than factual. The explanation is a bit weak: “Again, people hear the word “claim” and assume I’m implying something that the word “claim” does not mean. (It means to assert as fact. It does not mean to FALSELY assert as fact.” Although it doesn’t explicitly mean falsely, it does imply that that there may be an opposing view. No one would ever say “Despite claims that John McCain is a Republican”.
Posted by: Jim | September 17, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
robotworld – you really are from outerspace, mckinney and the other’s, lol! McCain could’nt answer because everybody else plus McCain could’nt understand that futuristic space language coming from ron paul. he was just another ross perot, crazy! lol!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
cs – yes, they need to hear more commonsense, keep it up. cs means commomsense for you uninformed!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
McCain said last year he didn’t “know” the situation would get “completely out of hand.”
That’s different from not warning of credit industry problems and actually offering legislation to prevent a crisis, as he did in 2005.
Did Obama offer legislation to restrain and correct Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?
Posted by: Joe Editor | September 17, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Bush is the reason nothing came of any bill that would have prevented this current crisis. Think what you like, but I blame Bush for being completely owned by big business and being stubborn and hardheaded about allowing any bill or measure that Democrats attempted to put forth. Bush has done nothing to prevent this situation and he won’t.
Posted by: Vicki | September 17, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Obviously, McCain did anticipate the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac crisis. His remarks about the “FEDERAL HOUSING ENTERPRISE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2005″ demonstrate that conclusively.
Equally obviously, the subprime mortgage crisis that he didn’t anticipate extends well beyond the FMs.
There is no contradiction here.
Posted by: elHombre | September 18, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
McCain came out years ago as stated plainly in his 2005 push for oversight
to fix this problem,the fact that he could not foresee every problem that might come from this does not diminish the fact he tried to act only to have the democrats block his actions and President Bush’s.
Bush did try to increase oversight on Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac:
NYtimes reported this 5 yrs. ago:
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending.
However, what many do not recall is that Bush wanted to tighten oversight with a new regulatory board for Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and other government recipients for the express purpose of addressing bad loan practices — and Democrats blocked it.
Look what the democrats had to say about it:
”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Typical democrats,create the problem then blame others when the sh!t hits the
fan.
Obama is up to his neck in the corruption that has allowed this to happen,where are those front page headlines:
The Best Congress Fannie Could Buy
(from classicvalues)
This is a long and complicated story about how Obama backers were behind the mortgage industry meltdown.
Obama’s ties to ACORN
Penny Pritzker
James a “Jim” Johnson
for starters these two were running the
show for one of the biggest bailouts the
country has had to make and they are top
financial advisors for Obama.They also have brought in hundreds of thousands of dollars to their pockets for their protection of the corrupt Fannie/Freddie
fiasco.
Now Obama wants to act like he is Robin
Hood when he was one of the leading actors in this rape of the tax payers.
“Why yes. Mr. ∅ was outraged. The very people who helped to rip off the American people were taking millions from the taxpayers while ∅ was helping the thieves get away with trillions. I’m outraged. At the theater. What a great act. And he seems so sincere.”
I guess the great one will see no investigation,it would get in the way of
the activist media and their cheer leading support to get him elected.
Posted by: Baxter Greene | September 18, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Congressman Ron Paul
U.S. House of Representatives
July 16, 2002
Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act. This legislation restores a free market in housing by repealing special privileges for housing-related government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). These entities are the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie), and the National Home Loan Bank Board (HLBB). According to the Congressional Budget Office, the housing-related GSEs received $13.6 billion worth of indirect federal subsidies in fiscal year 2000 alone.
One of the major government privileges granted these GSEs is a line of credit to the United States Treasury. According to some estimates, the line of credit may be worth over $2 billion. This explicit promise by the Treasury to bail out these GSEs in times of economic difficulty helps them attract investors who are willing to settle for lower yields than they would demand in the absence of the subsidy. Thus, the line of credit distorts the allocation of capital. More importantly, the line of credit is a promise on behalf of the government to engage in a massive unconstitutional and immoral income transfer from working Americans to holders of GSE debt.
The Free Housing Market Enhancement Act also repeals the explicit grant of legal authority given to the Federal Reserve to purchase the debt of housing-related GSEs. GSEs are the only institutions besides the United States Treasury granted explicit statutory authority to monetize their debt through the Federal Reserve. This provision gives the GSEs a source of liquidity unavailable to their competitors.
Ironically, by transferring the risk of a widespread mortgage default, the government increases the likelihood of a painful crash in the housing market. This is because the special privileges of Fannie, Freddie, and HLBB have distorted the housing market by allowing them to attract capital they could not attract under pure market conditions. As a result, capital is diverted from its most productive use into housing. This reduces the efficacy of the entire market and thus reduces the standard of living of all Americans.
However, despite the long-term damage to the economy inflicted by the government’s interference in the housing market, the government’s policies of diverting capital to other uses creates a short-term boom in housing. Like all artificially-created bubbles, the boom in housing prices cannot last forever. When housing prices fall, homeowners will experience difficulty as their equity is wiped out. Furthermore, the holders of the mortgage debt will also have a loss. These losses will be greater than they would have otherwise been had government policy not actively encouraged over-investment in housing.
Perhaps the Federal Reserve can stave off the day of reckoning by purchasing GSE debt and pumping liquidity into the housing market, but this cannot hold off the inevitable drop in the housing market forever. In fact, postponing the necessary but painful market corrections will only deepen the inevitable fall. The more people invested in the market, the greater the effects across the economy when the bubble bursts.
No less an authority than Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has expressed concern that government subsidies provided to the GSEs make investors underestimate the risk of investing in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Mr. Speaker, it is time for Congress to act to remove taxpayer support from the housing GSEs before the bubble bursts and taxpayers are once again forced to bail out investors misled by foolish government interference in the market. I therefore hope my colleagues will stand up for American taxpayers and investors by cosponsoring the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act.
Posted by: Marcelo | September 18, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
This financial mess is the fault of BOTH parties. And yes, both candidates have people in their campaigns that are perhaps “questionable”. Also the solution to solving this economical crisis is NOT a simple thing. I have yet to see two economists agree as what should be done. This next election I will vote for the ticket that I believe will have the BEST interests of this nation at heart, and who will govern with the interests of the American citizen in mind. It is imperative that the ticket not only can, but is willing to reach across the hall and work on things that will make this country better, stronger and safer. The grid-lock in Congress HAS to stop. “Business as usual” is going to be the downfall of this nation, and do not make the mistake thinking that this great nation cannot fall!
Posted by: marfa | September 18, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
since McCains major experience in finacial collapes came as a defemdant and participant in the Keating 5 scandals-who more experienced than he to recognise greed and corruption. Yes mr McCain has more experience than obama in this area-that of a DEFENDANT
Posted by: cowgirlblues | September 18, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
ABC News:
You have the obligation to thoroughly investigate a matter and report your findings as they truly are, and not as you WANT them to be. Your bias has certainly come out in this campaign; and I will no longer be one of your viewers.
Posted by: marfa | September 18, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Mikhah: not a shovel of dirt has been lifted-nor will it be until the federal government puts up backing and tax incentives for the oil companies to build them-government backed and financed-more corporate welfare-republicans scream free trade and market forces dictate and then bail out every failed business-republicans couldn’t sucessfully run a zoo.
Posted by: cowgirlblues | September 18, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
Congress thought everyone should have a house whether they could afford it or not.
This was the beginning of this crisis because all the speculators saw the big money tree growing in Wash. and thought they couldn’t lose.
Now congress thinks everyone should have health care. The next bubble.
Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | September 18, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
>>Baxter Greene | Sep 18, 2008 12:42:45 AM:
Thank you for your excellent post; it was informative, lucid…. and you’re right!. There will be NO investigation of Senator O’s complicity.
(They will, however, continue their search for “nits” on Sarah Palin!)
Posted by: let freedom ring | September 18, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
“Two years ago, I warned that the oversight of Fannie and Freddie was terrible, that we were facing a crisis because of it, or certainly serious problems,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., told CBS this morning.”
McCain did indeed deliver a speech on the Senate floor in 2006 in which he warned of a problem with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the risks they posed to the housing market and the economy as a whole.
*********
It turns out John McCain did warn about the dangers of Fannie and Freddie two years ago. He wasn’t lying or mistaken.
Posted by: Erika | September 18, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
The new code word, McCain’s 7 lobbyists but we’ll never hear about Penny Pritzker, or Jim Johnson, I can guarantee that.
Posted by: pennsylvaniavoter | September 18, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
To right-wing dittohead nimrods,
Which party had control of both Houses of Congress in 2005?
What was the actual reason for McCain’s proposed reform of the GSE’s?
Did it actually have anything to do with subprime CDOs? Or was it a case of corruption….cooking the books?
Because, if the prior years are any indicator, Fannie Mae was hardly the only company where upper mgmt was guilty of this.
I think you right wingers need to go and read about the Glass-Steagal Act instead…it was enacted in midst of the Great Depression basically to prevent another depression. Phil Gramm and John McCain are directly responsible for the passage of that law…which led to a disastrous deregulation of the banking industry.
Posted by: kray28 | September 18, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
Also if you right wingers want to blame Clinton for signing Gramm-Leach-Bliley, the Republicans wanted it so bad, they overrode his veto on it.
Basically every Democrat in the Senate voted against it, while basically every Republican voted for it.
Here’s what a prominent economist had to say about it:
Economist Robert Kuttner (among others) has criticized the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act as contributing to the 2007 subprime mortgage financial crisis.[7] Economists Robert Ekelund and Mark Thornton have made similar criticisms, arguing that while “in a world regulated by a gold standard, 100% reserve banking, and no FDIC deposit insurance” the Financial Services Modernization Act would have made “perfect sense” as a legitimate act of deregulation, under the present fiat monetary system it “amounts to corporate welfare for financial institutions and a moral hazard that will make taxpayers pay dearly”.
Posted by: kray28 | September 18, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
kray28:
Gramm-Leach-Bliley passed 90-8-1, President Clinton signed the veto proof bill and that bill became law.
Posted by: John | September 18, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am
I hope Obama & Biden can pull through in November!
Dan
Posted by: dan | September 18, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
McCain is far from perfect, but to claim that he is lying in this case is uncontrolled left-wing craziness.
Posted by: MartinJ | September 18, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Obama: Didn’t see it as a problem
McCain: Tried to protect us but gave up and joined the greed crowd.
Ron Paul: Has been trying to fix the problem since 2002. Sadly, all his “doom and gloom” fell on deaf ears.
Posted by: Justin | September 18, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
“”But I do rely on a lot of smart people that I have that are both in my employ and acquaintances of mine.” – John McCain” … but that so many of your staff of advisers are corporate lobbyists makes such a proposition tenuous at best, and an outright economic disaster in the making at worst …
Posted by: AvangionQ | September 18, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
The election campaign should stay on track. Major issues like the global financial crisis or credit crunch, fuel crisis, housing crisis, peace crisis ,climate change,pollution, human rights issues etc etc should not be sideshowed to a Glitz and Glamour “American Idol” Spoof Showpiece debating about who said what about vanilla and chocolate icecream!!!
Too much money spent on pointless adverts may give voters pause about the sense of judgement of Hollywood Showmanship.
With the countdown 0f 46 days left , next week will see the polls shifting either way as voters change allegiance,
The voters confidence will settle in the last 30 days of the campaign and the stronger candidate with clear vision and sound judgement based on single mindedness will decide the electorate vote . Errol Smythe
9/19/2008 1:44:17 PM
Posted by: Errol Smythe | September 19, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
The election campaign should stay on track. Major issues like the global financial crisis or credit crunch, fuel crisis, housing crisis, peace crisis ,climate change,pollution, human rights issues etc etc should not be sideshowed to a Glitz and Glamour “American Idol” Spoof Showpiece debating about who said what about vanilla and chocolate icecream!!!
Too much money spent on pointless adverts may give voters pause about the sense of judgement of Hollywood Showmanship.
With the countdown 0f 46 days left , next week will see the polls shifting either way as voters change allegiance,
The voters confidence will settle in the last 30 days of the campaign and the stronger candidate with clear vision and sound judgement based on single mindedness will decide the electorate vote . Errol Smythe
9/19/2008 1:44:17 PM
Posted by: Errol Smythe | September 19, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Mr. Tapper,
McCain certainly DID warn about Fannie-Freddie, and also co-sponsored the Fair Housing Act of 2005 to implement reform of Fannie-Freddie. Democrats killed that bill. I find it rather astonishing that you are questioning McCain’s honesty on this matter, when Obama, who is one of the leading beneficiaries of Fannie-Freddie campaign contributions, also CLAIMS he warned of Fannie-Freddie problems two years ago. I can find ZERO evidence for Obama’s claim, and Obama’s party explicitly opposed reform of those institutions. Obama has been the ultimate party line voter. If he did get out of lockstep with his own party on this issue, it would be maybe the only time he has done so.
Posted by: DaveK | September 28, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
“republicans couldn’t successfully run a zoo”
LOL. Washington is a zoo. 537 specimen and as with any zoo, most of them stink.
Posted by: Chas | September 30, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
This is the quote from John Mcain during his Senate speech so he did warn about problems with Fannie May and Freddie Mac you can spin it all you want to in this article this is proof and he is on video saying it.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
Posted by: Ken | October 24, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
He was also quoted as saying the below statement which is a clear warning.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.”
Posted by: Ken | October 24, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I think Tapper is fudging on this. The “update” admitting the proof of McCain’s claim is not a minor detail; it changes the reader’s conclusions. And why is it so mysterious that a person might see the general potential for a crisis associated with runaway loans yet not prognosticate the specifics, including the scope, of the crisis that has now befallen us (and which the wizards in Washington and at the Fed are frantically fueling with even more uncontrolled credit expansion)? McCain has many faults but his lack of omniscience is, I am afraid, quite universal.
Posted by: David | March 19, 2009, 9:37 am 9:37 am