Ex-Sen. Chafee, Member of ‘Republicans for Obama,’ Calls Palin a ‘Cocky Wacko’

Why has the Republican Party driven out such men and women of integrity, of intellect, of accomplishment? Where is my grandfather’s Republican Party, that valued achievement and quality in leaders?

I love Obamacans

She’s a right-wing nutjob that goes to a church that focuses on the Book of Revelations.
God help us all.

I’ve just seen the first part of Gibson’s interview with Palin.
Kudos to Charles Gibson.
And I’ve learned that Chafee was right.
Palin didn’t even know what the Bush Doctrine was. The way she reacted, her panic and blank look… Frightening, really. Dumber than Quale.
“You mean his world view, Charlie?”
She must have called Gibson “Charlie” at least five times in every answer.
She also stated that Homeland Security is all about about energy; for that’s the only subject she can say two things about.
It was a total disaster.

Don’t blame me. I was a community organizer. Chafee is a fool. As Rush Limbaugh has said he has probably even les s brain cells than ameaba. Or Joey “I am from Scranton” Biden.

I think the Republican Party has long had a crisis in their vision of America. On the one hand, traditional conservatives, those who claimed they want small government, have been effectively marginalized. On the other, those who believe there the government should try their hand at managing everything about a person’s life have been given the most weight.
If you don’t believe me, two words: Terry Schiavo.
I predict the Republican party’s fight is not just with the Democrats, but also with itself.

Who cares what Rush has to say. I’m very interested in Republicans for Obama though.

Well, after seeing her threaten war with Russia, I can sort of see his point

I used to wonder why the land of he brave had only two political parties…..now I realise it’s because you don’t need any lunatic fringe parties, you already have them in mainstream politics.
Palin doesn’t rule out war with Russia? A statement from a lunatic??
“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”
H.L. Mencken

Just saw Chris “hardball” Matthews make the same case as Harriet above about her lame bush doctrine response, as well as asking what was up with her only repeating “we won’t second guess our allies” like it was a magic spell when questioned about Israel.
The whole interview was like the final exam of some one who’s been skipping class all semester & then finds a nerd to cram with them the night before the test.
Or more accurately: like all Palin appearances it was the rote repetition of certain well tested talking points.
She does learn quickly, she just has the wrong teachers.

So what is the “Bush doctrine”? When is the last time Charlie Gibson or anyone else used that term? Bush’s terms are up. There is no more Bush doctrine.

euthyfro,
“Or more accurately: like all Palin appearances it was the rote repetition of certain well tested talking points.
She does learn quickly, she just has the wrong teachers.”
Rove is a good teacher for a journalism major. How else could she master beauty-queendom?!
Good summarization you made of Palin’s cramming. Seen the latest frat-house info re the other folks that move the big oil dealers?
Obama 08!

Tim,
“She added: “It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions,”
Man, wake up! The economic sanctions that resulted under the Bush regime are against US (the U.S.). They have caused major banks and most of the financial sector to crash and burn and soon to be divied up to more of Bush’s cronies. “Good job, Brownie.”
Obama 08!

To be a Republican you need to believe:
a way to fight terrorism is to belittle our longtime allies, then demand their help and monetary support-
also-
Reactionary politics is exactly what has placed this country in a mess. How can someone give such quick answers to questions about war which could reak havoc on the livelyhood of America. The comment having “to be wired correctly”? What was that all about.
I don’t want Palin answering the phone at 3:00am-

Geevil -
The Bush doctrine claims that we have a right to “preemptive attacks.” This “doctrine” was developed during the run-up to the Invasion of Iraq while those fools were blithering about “mushroom clouds,” “WMD’s” and meetings between Atta and Iraqi intelligence officials that never took place.
Cheney refers to it as the “1% solution,” i.e., if there’s a 1% chance that we’re going to be attacked, we get to bomb ‘em back to the stone age.
The problem with this “doctrine” arises when you base your decisions on intelligence that turns out to have been cooked or was total b.s. to begin with.

McCain is a cocky wacko too.
After Afghanistan get ready
for wars of choice – not wars
of necessity, wars forced on
us by other powers, or wars
that we must fight to protect
our national security.
A war in Georgia or in Ukraine
will be a war of choice.
Bush and McCain have been beating
the drums of war in Georgia and
Ukraine against Russia for some
time now.

I’m just happy my candidate knows what the word “hubris” means. Poor Palin needs to invest in a dictionary.

Jake, I appreciate you looking at news from all sides :)

Who’s Your Messiah Now?
Sarah Palin’s rapid elevation from small town mayor to candidate for national office to revered deity, has got me asking if conservatives aren’t taking a bit too much of the savior in mass (or smoking crack). The hyperbole exceeds satire.
She is the true Paris Hilton of politicians. She’s famous for being famous. Especially among conservatives. But the inside-the-beltway hysteria of GOP coastal elites and wealthy Christian Conservatives – as expressed by the staffs of the Weekly Standard, National Review, and Fox News (in New York!), among others – is a soirée in a samovar.
Outside of their gay and prosperous precincts, Americans are still wondering who the hell this woman is. The GOP is gravely misreading the national mood and the general appeal of their VP candidate. No one who wasn’t already going to vote for her will now do so because she eats mooseburger and gives a snarky speech. Better enjoy that celebration because prognostications aside – she’s the 2012 nominee (they assume either a loss or McCain’s death, whichever comes first), she’s the future of the party, she’s come to save us from imminent defeat – Sarah Palin has a long, tough, and I’m guessing, scandal-filled road ahead of her.
Who’s your messiah now? Sarah Palin. And you better pray she’s studying hard and paying off the townies back home, or she just might be a false prophet.

Here’s what is wacko:
If Ayers were a real terrorist, then Budecisionssh would have made sure he and his family got protection as they fleed the country after 9/11 — just like he did for his friends in the bin Laden family!
Bush and McCain see bin Laden as a family friend’s rebel kid. Cronism is blinding! Your kid is being killed to make sure McCain gets to make these same kind of decisions in the name of [oil, his father's honor?]. Since most are against the war, McCain is FOR the draft. Talk about aborting a child for no good reason after they’ve been born alive???
Choose Obama/Biden ’08 for yours and your children’s safety.

Here’s what is wacko:
If Ayers were a real terrorist, then Bush/McCain would have made sure he and his family got protection as they fleed the country — just like he did for his friends in the bin Laden family after 9/11!
Bush and McCain see bin Laden as a family friend’s rebel kid. Cronism is blinding! Your kid is being killed to make sure McCain gets to make these same kind of decisions in the name of [oil, his father's honor?]. Since most are against the war, McCain is FOR the draft. Talk about aborting a child for no good reason after they’ve been born alive???
Choose Obama/Biden ’08 for yours and your children’s safety.

I continue to be amazed by any educated person who would dignify this charlatan, Sarah Palin, as anything other than a crude and cynical attempt at gaining votes from the right wing base and low information voters.
Her answers were almost entirely rote repetitions of rehearsed catch phrases, transparent and bizarre diversions into nonsense, or plain old lies. She is uninfromed, jingoistic and phony as a three-dollar bill.
A perfect choice, though, for the purpose at hand, since I guess it worked for Bush/Quayle.
A few of my complaints:
She didn’t have a clue about the Bush doctrine, but pretended that she did.
She lied about saying the Iraq war was God’s work. Lincoln’s quote intends the OPPOSITE of what she originally said. Missed opportunity, Charlie, on saying “point taken” there.
When asked about the appropriateness of invading Pakistan from Afghanistan, she gave an answer she probably had memorized for a totally different question:
“…We’re going to work with these countries, building new relationships, working with existing allies, but forging new, also, in order to, Charlie, get to a point in this world where war is not going to be a first option.”
What a joke. It’s beyond me how anyone can dignify this nonsense as qualifyiing Palin to run for any federal office, let alone VP.

How is the world can Palin be unaware of what the Bush doctrine is?

New relationships with Pakistan means more lost jobs for Americans (outsource/insource) as we bargain for their financial wealth over our own financial health. It isn’t just the 7/11 jobs that are taken any more. We cannot compete with cheap imported labor. Obama knows that, but Palin doesn’t since the Canadians she outsources to command more than India. Same principle, different wages. Obama proposes raising at least the minimum wage for Americans to a living wage. McCain/Palin only want the standard of living to be raised for Canadians and Indians.
“…We’re going to work with these countries, building new relationships, working with existing allies, but forging new, also, in order to, Charlie, get to a point in this world where war is not going to be a first option.”

OK, the arguments are not so hot today. Chafee is trying to reverse swiftboat Palin. It is all for naught. This election is not going to be settled by Chafee or me. It’s going to be settled by working class white women. Do they feel abandoned by Obama and the Democratic Party? Yes, I think so. Do they feel a kindred spirit in Palin? Possibly. I hope they vote for Obama because of who he will put on the Supreme Court. If they break for McCain-Palin, so be it, I can live with it. Hillary in four years then, so I can get my Supremes.

“No one should ever sit in this office over 70 years old, and that I know”
– Dwight D. Eisenhower

Vanessa,
Even as a Democrat I support standing up against Russia. Russia has lost its Democratic inertia and is acting more like the Mafia. If you believe in Democracy you and others will take the right stance on this issue. If not, then I feel sorry for the next generation, we’ll be giving them a giant headache. I’m convinced that Russia’s Putin has the willingness and capability to go nuclear, working with Chavez. Those guys are fairly unstable. Sorry, that’s just the way it is.

McCain is more clever than Palin.
Today, when asked by Time’s Rick Stengel, moderating the 9/11 anniversary forum on national service here at Columbia University in uptown New York city, whether he would give Barack Obama a cabinet job, he responded that he would.
You hear that, Obama bashers?

Nobody who has voted Democratic for thirty years would say they voted Democrat.

Does any one know if the savior of the GOP campaign will be giving anymore interviews? I would be interested in watching how her handlers improve her responses. Dumbing down, spin, and circulatory responses seems to always work for the American electorate. I can’t wait for my next dosage.

“…a scary mix of unbridled free market crony capitalism and police state.”
Hmmm, thats very familiar somehow, I’m not sure I recognize the country anymore though…

Wow. I think the former Miss Congeniality must have thought that if she merely uttered “Charlie” every other word Gibson would quit asking her tough questions. I loved when Gibson asked her if she’d ever met a foreign head of state. She said she hadn’t and that if he asked that question of many vice president candidates they’d say the same thing. Ummm. Well, actually, she’s the first veep candidate in 32 years who hasn’t met a foreign head of state. Whoopsie. Poor Sarah. I have some advice for her: Honey, pack up your lipstick and hit the road. Go Obama!

um, WestCoastMessenger – Russia does have the capacity to go nuclear. That is what the cold war was all about. You don’t have to really convince anybody of that. That is why the old Republican party – the real one, with James Baker and George Bush Sr understood the value of diplomacy. And did not make idiotic threats in televised interviews. The GOP had some honor then. And intelligence. Now we have war on at least two fronts, a mayor running for VP and are in hock to the real threat – Communist China

As is obvious by many of the posts on this blog, hatemongers like Rev. Wright and Michelle Obama, comments that Palin was picked only because she hasn’t had an abortion and Obama’s own little jabs only serve to show the low class and nasty attitude held by Obama, his associates and supporters.
First, Palin was criticized because after being in the national spotlight two weeks, she hadn’t given 53 interviews – of course, it doesn’t matter that even now Obama refuses to give unscripted interviews, except on a very few occasions (one of which he stormed out of when he was asked difficult questions). Now she’s stupid, cocky, arrogant and “doesn’t have a clue.”
I don’t agree with everything Sarah Palin believes in, but I do believe that she wants the best for our country, and she’s willing to do the hard work for it. Sheesh, she’s ready to put up with a media that is largely biased in favor of Obama and many Americans who are itching to hate her simply because she’s a Republican.
Why is there so much partisan hatred, not to mention hatred for Hillary Clinton supporters or anyone else who doesn’t bow and scrape to the Obama doctrine? It seems so much worse since Obama entered the scene, and it is very sad – more for our children than ourselves.

I’ve never seen the Dems be so religious and confused at the same time.
First they claim Obama the messiah and then Palin. Everywhere they look they find a messiah or savior. Then there’s the quote where Obama is asking Hillary to be his savior and fight Palin for him.
Wow. Such a religious group. I guess they all attended Rev. Wright’s church for instructions on what to say and do.
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“Who’s your messiah now? Sarah Palin. And you better pray she’s studying hard and paying off the townies back home, or she just might be a false prophet.
Posted by: ES | Sep 11, 2008 9:41:59 PM
Does any one know if the savior of the GOP campaign will be giving anymore interviews?
Posted by: Style over Substance | Sep 11, 2008 11:32:24 PM”

When Palin saw someone in her own party, the head of the Alaska Republican Party, do something wrong, she didn’t look the other way. She nailed him.
That took guts, spirit and a love of what is best for America.
Did Obama ever see any Dem do anything wrong in Chicago? It appears he either looked the other way or was blind.
Either way, not very good character traits for a leader.
I guess Dems reward people like that.
Many others are finding Palin would be a MUCH better POTUS than Obama.

Like we care about what all 3 Republicans for Obama think.
Really. This group is shrinking daily as we see the suit for who he is.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN EVEN BEFORE PALIN

dadanarchist, If you believe Ted Stevens was the head of the Alaska Republican Party, you are mistaken.
If you are trying to say, “So what, she helped Ted Stevens”, then you are changing the subject in an effort to avoid the point.
The point being she WILL do what is right vs Obama either won’t or is too blind to see.

No doubt Chaffee has ambitions to become a journalist or maybe he’s a paid Obama smear blogger. Either way…it won’t work.

“Please provide SOME of the overwhelming evidence where Obama successfully challenged and punished a leader of his own party?”
Boring.
I’m not interested in Obama. I’m interested in Palin.
This is the typical GOPer tactic of “look over there!” or “what about this?” or “will you condemn?” when presented with inconvenient facts.
Has Obama confronted Democrats? Not really, but they aren’t the party festering in corruption. They haven’t been looting the treasury for the last 8 years. I do know that he is not a favorite of the corrupt Illinois governor (D). I’m sure he can do more. He was late in criticizing Jefferson, if I remember correctly.
Ted Stevens may not be the titular head of the Alaska GOP, but he is its leader. And, if Palin is such an upstanding reformer and porkbuster, why is she supporting King of Pork and currently indicted Stevens? Why did she start a 527 that literally lauded Stevens’ “excellence” in its very name?
And no more of this “look over there!” baloney.

I am inspired by Palin by her care of self, being a mom and involved in politcs….but I’m still voting for Obama all the way. He has the wisdom and intelligence to be president and he remember is the original agent of change. McCain/Palin have stolen the mantra from him.

geevill,
The Bush doctrine is the concept that the US has the right to make “pre-emptive war” or basically to attack anyone we “feel to be a threat.” I guess Putin was using the Bush doctrine when Russia went into Georgia. He certainly likes to justify his actions but using those of the Bush administration, but maybe that because W is his “good friend” (at least according to W). Palin may not know what it is (Rove and Cheney evidently forgot to tell her that is what it is called) but I note they DID tell her that she believed in it, because once Charlie explained it, she was all over it. So yes, with McCain you get 4 more years of the same, brought to you by the same puppetmasters.

During the Cold War the two
sides were more or less evenly
matched militarily.
The Russians say that Gorbachev
was assured by us and NATO that
there would be no NATO expansion
east of West Germany once the
Russians pulled out of eastern
Europe. They say that the West
has broken its word.
Bush-McCain thinking goes like
this. During the Cold War it
used to be:
(USA + NATO) vs (Russia + Warsaw Pact)
Now if we bring in most, if not
all, of the republics of the USSR
into NATO, the military forces
would look like this:
(USA + NATO + most former USSR republics) versus (Russia)
This forever establishes our
military dominance over Russia.
Bush and McCain think that in
any military conflict like the
one that just ended in Georgia
the entire might of the new
Western alliance would be
lined up against Russia.
Bush and McCain will start a war
assuming only the best possible
outcome in our favor.
Think about it:
Nobody gave Vietnam a chance
against the mighty USA.
Bush and McCain told us Iraq
would be easy.
Now the military brass are
telling us that an eventual
victory in Afghanistan is
not a guaranteed thing.
The consequences of increasing
tensions and a potential
military confronation with
Russia are highly unpredictable.

So I still see many so called supporters of Clinton say that they are for McCain, WHY? McCain / Palin stand for nothing that Clinton stood for so there must be a reason. Is it that a percent of Clintons supporters are Sexist or are they Racist or maybe both. That seems to be the only explanation to their flip flop to McCain since he opposed equal pay, child care, prescriptions, woman’s health care, and education, legislation while supporting the idea that Insurance companies should provide coverage for men’s E.D. . Dumping his first wife whilst she was in the hospital. His current Wife and his running mate are both former beauty queens this all speaks volumes of his mind set. He is a User, So vote for him if your a HYPOCRITE.

Gibson was kind of churlish, with his pursed lips and interrogation on the “Bush Doctrine”.
Do the corporate politicos really sit around and blabla about the “Bush Doctrine”?
Positing the “right” to regime-change any nation whose territory is coveted by corporations ain’t a doctrine, but a “delusion”.
Gibson should be ashamed of himself, really.

This is pathetic.
Now right wingers claim they never heard of the Bush doctrine.
Just like the phrase lipstick on a pig was never said before Obama did.
That political amnesia sure comes in handy.

“In fact, he lost his primary as a sitting Senator two years ago.”
Wrong, wrong and wrong.
He won the primary – with help from the RNC and the RNSC, natch – but lost in the general to Sheldon Whitehouse (D).
Your are confusing him with “Droopy” Joe LIEberman.

She found the time to tape a cooking show with Paul Dean. PRIORITIES!!!

Mccaine- the change candidate? Haha. Yes he had changed his position to most of the issues. Don’t trust him at all.
Palin a Wacko? That is a kind word. She keeps talking about Ebay and bridge to no where. She thinks people don’t know the real story. She has convinced her self with her own lies and can’t tell the difference now. She is more than a Wacko.

Sounds to me like either former Senator Chafee is now a few tacos short of a full plate or he’s been nipping at the sauce in his retirement days. Palin is a very intelligent, able, and level headed public servant and well qualified to become our next VP, and in my view will. There will always be detractors of course..even from the likes of Lincoln Chafee whom I respected once, but no longer. I do pity him though. The fact is and I think it is clear by now that Obama made a Monumental Blunder in not choosing Hillary Clinton as his running mate, and McCain made the best political move of his career in choosing Sarah Palin. It must be painfully clear to Senator Obama and the fact that Governor Palin pointed this out is further evidence that she is a straight shooter..someone that calls it like it is and is not afraid to state the truth. Those 18 million votes were exactly that-18 Million American votes! Lest anyone forget, Ross Perot more likely than not cost George H W Bush the Presidency by getting about the same number of votes (19 million). JFK was politically savvy enough to walk down the senate hallway and offer the VP spot to a man that he didn’t feel he could get along with too well, but knew he could not the Presidency without. This man happened to be the runner up nominee (As Clinton was to Obama) who came very close to taking the nomination from Kennedy. That man’s name was Lyndon B. Johnson. My only guess, leaving unpleasant things such as “ego” or other such reasons being tossed around as to why Obama did not choose Clinton and ignored 18 million votes-many of them votes from women-is that he must have not wanted to become President bad enough. Incredible when you think about it, but I find no other logical explanation really.

For all you “Bush Doctrine” nerds out there…how many of you could have answered that question? Doubt it. Charlie Gibson is also a lightweight. He has question writers. I doubt if he would have known, either, given a surprise question.
Remember, hindsight is 20/20.