Fact Check: Admiral Mullen and Obama’s Iraq Plan

I’m not surprised at what the generals say about leaving Iraq. After all, they are soldiers and soldiers fight wars. They bore quickly when there is no action. It would be quite a world if we didn’t have a war going on.

Yes, I’ve noticed that about Obama.
He has a VERY hard time admitting when he is mistaken. His feathers get ruffled.
That has been one of the hallmarks of Bush’s entire Presidency, his inability to admit when he is wrong.
Guess we can call him O’Bush.

Look… Obama toyed with McCain by going easy on the geezer, only politely, but pointedly making painfully clear whenever McCain reverted to his flat-out lie plan. For more complete fact checks on the issues and utterances spewed tonight… feel free to check out:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/26/eveningnews/realitycheck/main4481610.shtml

Someone needs to tell McCain that the president has to do more than talk about fond memories of Ronald Reagan and plans for Iraq. It’s crazy… like the entire purpose of the USA is to fight in Iraq. I’m sorry to be so harsh, but McCain totally came off like a tottering old fool.

I know this has nothing to do with the debate but this is the 80′s all over again. A few banks are going to take over the market again, just like it used to be. Just like the republicans!

Obama knows absolutely nothing about foreign policy and what it really takes to be a leader. All he has is handlers telling him what to say. Mccain can talk about the past because he actually HAS DONE something in his political career…its called experience. I hope it is the 80′s all over again. Reagan era America was one of the best periods of time in this country’s history.

It is hilarious that in today’s struggling times within our economy, we have Americans demonstrating racism. If you look at how today’s times are hard for all of the middle class to especially the lower income community, whereas our nation is the joke of the global world. Right now, we have the government suggesting a $700billion correction, or solution to the madness of embezzlement, and fraud throughout the nation. We the taxpayers will pay for the mistakes of the corporations at which demonstrated poor work ethic, greed, and white collar crimes as well. Sure, the time to see such actions and or discipline is not the number topic, as everyone rather continue our struggle to gain little, while the rich/wealthy increase their ROI…. Instead, our nation rather pew negative statements in attack towards the first African American Presidential candidate, who might I add reflects change within our corrupt government. Although, times are rough, all the ignorance can see is the color of his skin, and unreasonably foresee McCain as the better candidate; based on race. Now, many of you are stating that different news stations are Obama voters, and you need to stop watching such politic coverage. In other words, you rather vote for an individual, who wants nothing more than what Bush has already done for the last eight years. Now, Palin made herself look stupid! As she could not answer the questions that Katie asked her as being a VP candidate of McCain. How do you not know off the top of your head what McCain has done for the better of the people via congress?? How smart are you? Do you really know what your job entails in the White House? If you look at the research, Palin Alaskans women citizens are not voting for her, as she does not represent the majority of woman in today”s society… Are we looking to change the world for the better of all, as this being the “land of the free”, or simply remain ignorant to the diversity within America and build/develop together??

All Obama needed was to show stamina, posture and resolve of a commander in chief and he did that. As for the McPalin: America is not going to settle for experience of failed policies and foreign experience based on being able to see Russia from your houses. McPalin lost the opportunity of any game changer and guess what McPalin is going to split immediately after her sucidal debate on Oct. 2.

So let me get this right.. McCain took the Admirals words out of context (since he was speaking generally in the absence of a plan, like just phased withdrawal on a time line only) and claims it’s about Obama. Isn’t that slander? I noticed that McCain did a few other sleight of hand tricks tonight that Obama should have been all over, like the tax stuff. I’m supprised there hasn’t been more noise over it.

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The Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007 introduced by Obama specifically stated to stop the 2007 troop surge and to remove all combat forces by March 31, 2008.
As McCain pointed out in the debate.
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Where did he point it out?
Transcript:
OBAMA: … And right now, the commanders in Afghanistan, as well as Admiral Mullen, have acknowledged that we don’t have enough troops to deal with Afghanistan because we still have more troops in Iraq than we did before the surge.
MCCAIN: Admiral Mullen suggests that Senator Obama’s plan is dangerous for America.
OBAMA: That’s not the case.
MCCAIN: That’s what …
OBAMA: What he said was a precipitous…
MCCAIN: That’s what Admiral Mullen said.
OBAMA: … withdrawal would be dangerous. He did not say that. That’s not true.
MCCAIN: And also General Petraeus said the same thing.
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I think McCain was a little less than honest on that one..

Obamas plan was actually brilliant, and showed a lot of insight into the problem. It called for an exit planned and coordinated by the military with provisions to remain under certain circumstances, but most importantly, its main goal was to seek a political solution rather than a military one.
And now, the recently released research by the RAND corporation shows _that_ has been the most effective way to defeat terrorist organizations by far, and rarely do military solutions work. http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/CT314/index.html

“Al Qaeda in Iraq has been strategically defeated.”
And what a great victory that has been. Of course, they weren’t there at all before we invaded, there were never more than about 1500 of them at most, and we had more than 100,000 troops there at all times. Yes, quite a victory. Now all we have to do is wait out the Sunnis and Shias for another 100 years in the hope that they’ll stop considering one another heretics that should be killed. That will be the REAL ‘victory’. Seriously, though, it probably won’t take 100 years. As long as we’re killing close to 100,000 Iraqis per year it won’t be long until we’ve terrified them enough that most of them will be in Syria or Iran.
But it’s all good…
America is all good…
We told the Iraqis that we’re the “good guys” hundreds of thousands of times now.
Iraqis must obey their conquerors just like we’ll soon have to obey the Chinese because we were too stupid to look after our own best interests and instead decided to play armchair warrior games.

“Unless there is overwhelming firepower killing hundreds of thousands of people in a vain attempt to keep them from killing one another, the violence will not stop. Sunnis hates Shia. Shia hates Sunni. Neither one of them likes the Kurds. They all consider one another heretics and mass murderers. We’ve already killed a few hundred thousand civilians there in the effort to kill about 10,000 ‘insurgents’…but those insurgents (Sunni and Shia and Kurd) are now just waiting till we’re gone in order to kill off one another. We’re being duped by the sunni desert tribes and by the Iranian/Iraqi shia mullah’s strategy of having periodic ceasefires until we leave.”
Wow!
Where did you get those numbers? We killed a few hundred thousand civilians in the effort to kill about 10,000 ‘insurgents’
Why not make it a even million..maybe a couple trillion civilians. And damn it we must not have gotten ANY of the ‘insurgents’ in the 5 yrs we were there cause you state that those insurgents (Sunni and Shia and Kurd) are now just waiting till we’re gone in order to kill off one another. Let me picture this there are 10,000 of them and there are 3 groups (Sunni and Shia and Kurd). That makes 3,333 each, and we’ll give the extra 1/3 to the kurds since everyone hates them. If we leave it shouldn’t take them long to wipe them selfs out. Or maybe we should just stay there another 50 yrs. and they’ll all die of old age hiding behind 3 rocks.
Were you this upset when Clinton bombed the hell out of the Serbs cause they were massacring the Muslims? Of course no civilians were probably hit cause Clinton’s army probably were better shots then Bush’s. And after we left the Muslims massacred the now happless Serbs.
You don’t see any benefit in having a democracy their where women can walk down the street and not be beaten. And young girls can go to school, you don’t remember the purple fingers of the brave civilians (their were a couple left) risking their lives

U.S. Gen. David Petraeus said Thursday that a comprehensive approach is needed to quell the war in Afghanistan, including reconciliation within the population and “absolute engagement” with neighboring Pakistan. Extremists — be they al-Qaida, the Taliban or others with bases in tribal areas of Pakistan — have all contributed to Afghanistan’s problems, Petraeus said. Neighboring Pakistan “faces a threat that certainly seems to be an existential threat,”…
mccain was right again patraeous will do what needs to be done there
and he was right about what the general said about iraq
“Iraq remains “the central front” for al-Qaida and other extremist organizations, Gen. David Petraeus, the departing commander of U.S. troops in Iraq, said in an interview Tuesday. ”
and again..
o-no-bama lied

Isn’t it interesting to note that Obama has so much military training and experience that he knows more than the generals in the field? Isn’t it amazing how much gaul Obama has to attempt, as a democrat party candidate for the presidency, the Iraq government to follow his proposed American withdrawal plans from Iraq. Here Obama is NOT the president and he’s directing a foreign government to his wishes. How arrogant can one be? Obama the clown

qbama doesn,t know anything he just talks he can go back to his church ahd talk about white people more

Independant,
Your funny… :)
I am Voting for Obamas ‘Bill’, for War Crimes of Rape Commited by Extreme Republican soldiers, in Other Countries.
McCain walked out of the Senate, So He Recieved a No-Show. But, was on his Phone With Senate Members. He Could have Voted Yes, over the Phone, but Choose not to Answer. Making it a No-Show.
This Proves McCain is a supporter of Rape, with No Questions Asked.
We are Also Upset, that Some Women in His lower Staff,are Brainwashed, into not wanting more pay just like at abc AND fox.
For Our Private Records.
Brain Washing Micro-Generators. Interesting.
OSU’s, Also interesting. Some Countries are MORE advanced than us.
This is fun… :)
Read Platos-’The Cave’. If you can.
To bad you Couldn’t make an ARK=ARC
WAIT for the Book. Electronics are Cool.
No Mafia ‘Free Markets’, All Paperwork will be released to the public if the want to see it. This way Radical Far Right Republican Guards, can not ship anything without public paperwork and Independant Inspection.
McCain Better start to agree with his Middle Republicans. This is when he doesn’t want to Reach across the table.
Just like Bush did.
Sounds like a New GOOD BOOK’ will be written. I see who McCain is Now.
Watch CNN & MSNBC for why Obama did not rate so well, at the Debates
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Of course McCain will become Mc****.
John will become a bad word AGAIN.
Lilth=Sarah….
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WATCH THE DEBATE AGAIN

Have anyone ever noticed that when Obama speak/talk w/out teleprompters he begins to stutter?
I wonder if he has anything or any idea in his empty head. All the talk and all the speeches were very well orchestrated with teleprompters positioned in his view so he won’t make a mistake.
WoW! That’s command performance!
BTW, I noticed that moron appears on this blog again.

“t is hilarious that in today’s struggling times within our economy, we have Americans demonstrating racism.”
Yes it is sad that Obama and his allies, like the racist Rev jeremiah wright are racists who play the race card with abandon.
” If you look at how today’s times are hard for all of the middle class to especially the lower income community, whereas our nation is the joke of the global world. ”
What an idiotic statement! We are the world’s largest economy, the economy grew in the last 12 months, production is at all time highs.
We will become a joke if the worst candidate in our lifetimes, Obama, is made president. He is a leftwing looney who’s only real skill is reading a teleprompter. He is the font man for the corrupt, venal, pathetic left establishment. Our first amendment rights will be gone.

OBAMA is an empty suit with little or no experience. It is beyond me why this person has any support. If he couls not deal with McCain the other night how does he expect to deal with the Russians and Arabs, they will eat him up.