Senator John McCain’s campaign manager Rick Davis was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations, current and former officials say.
Read all about it in today’s New York Times.
Mr.Tapper,
The McCain campaign was quoting a Washington Post article, where Raines himself said he was advising Obama.
Taking the word of a criminal like Raines, and a denial of McCains opponent, is hardly fact checking, sir.
notafool,
you can’t view something with which you don’t agree? that might be part of the problem. btw, gibson is not in the report. try watching somtehing other than FOX.
Actually JPT it is unclear that the claim about Phil Gramm is false. Tucker Bounds, spokesperson for McCain, dodged the question when directly asked whether Gramm would become Treasury secretary or have any other position in a McCain administration. Bounds only said the Obama campaign had no way of knowing that and kept repeating that Gramm was no longer an official advisor to McCain (although he is still unofficially advising him). I would consider the failure to answer the question a confirmation, particularly considering the history of this campaign.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 22, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Can someone here tell me is it true that all newly registered voters dont appear on survey list ?
So all he polls will be way off ?
Obama has signed up new voter 4 to 1 ??
Any one have any info ???
When is some “clever” reporter going to report on the involvement that McCain had with the Savings & Loan scandal which cost the taxpayers billions to bail out. McCain was held by the Senate Ethics Comm.to have shown “poor judgment” in meeting with the culprits prior to the scandal exploding on the scene. The leading felon was Charles Keating, a good friend of McCain’s, contributed several hundred thousand dollars to his Senatorial campaign. McCain was one of the “Keating 5.” Why is this relevant? Because McCain is a self described “deregulator” and poor gov’t oversight is what caused the S&L scandal and what caused the present fiasco which will cost the taxpayers almost one trillion dollars. Let’s hear from McCain about this.
QUESTION: What exactly is Fannie Mae’s involvement in the current financial crisis?
ANSWER: Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac bought some of the tainted securities.
Various investment banks (some of which no longer exist, not Fannie Mae) took B grade (or worse) mortgages, MIXED with A grade mortgages, and generated asset based securities.
These new securities, based in part on questionable mortgages, were somehow graded AAA by the bond rating companies. Many, many financial companies including Fannie Mae bought these now toxic securities.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were among the last financial institutions to start acquiring these securities.
This last year commercial banks and investment banks have run away from the market.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been the ONLY ones making mortgage loans.
Posted by: John | September 22, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Aussie, I find it odd that in Louisiana there are 1.5 million dems registered and 700 thousand rebublicans but yet their saying it is a red state. I’m scratching my head over this one.
Posted by: deb | September 22, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
“you can’t view something with which you don’t agree?”
It’s impossible not to hear the drumbeat from the Left. Don’t kid yourself. It permeates the country. One has to seek out alternative views.
It’s the major problem the country has. If you don’t have the time to look, ALL you will EVER hear is left-wing propoganda. It’s the main reason so many people vote for socialism and retreat when the clear lessons of history go the other way.
Does pointing it out disturb you somehow?
Why are there no headlines that are pro-Obama? At least have some negative headlines against McCain or Palin. ABC ,and the other tv/web networks , need to continue to be homers for the DNC. They need to do so in order to offset talk radio being so conservative.
Posted by: Eric Holland | September 22, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
“The McCain campaign was quoting a Washington Post article, where Raines himself said he was advising Obama”
The original WaPo quote was anonymous.
It only came out after the ad that Raines was the source of the quote.
So we have 1 adviser who advising seems to be a couple of calls and 1 adviser who helped in the VP vetting & search.
The architect of the McCain campaign was a lobbyist for Fannie Mae. McCain chief economics policy adviser (and whose plan McCain still uses) is a dereg guru who called the nation a bunch of whiners. McCain himself is a devotee of deregulation.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Fact Check.
NBC, ABC, CNN, NYT, etc etc etc run a dis proportionate number of anti Conservative/ PRo Obama stories and need to be investigated by the FCC.
Hi deb,
We dont get it over here either ? We also dont get why your media is letting Palin dodge questions and McCain lie so much over here our news wouldnt take any of that! We are frank people in Australia but whats wrong with your press ?
I remember when your press was the examle to the world.. No its gutless.
Why are people protesting her and mccain for lying ?
Why isnt your media saying we cant tell you about here because she want answer questions and tell people to vote against them ??
I dont get it ?
Deb Do you know which states use computer voting machines ??
Fact Check.
Jake Tapper himself has an agenda to get Obama elected as evidenced by his biased blogs Post Subjects. Almost 100% are anti McCain Palin. Woops. This is ABC.
“Why are there no headlines that are pro-Obama? At least have some negative headlines against McCain or Palin. ABC ,and the other tv/web networks , need to continue to be homers for the DNC. They need to do so in order to offset talk radio being so conservative.”
This guy lives in a fantasy world.
McCain/Palin erased a 34 point Obama lead on question of which ticket better understands women.
And the fact that McCain pays female staffers more than Obama–even though on the stump BO preaches equal pay for women.
It’s well known BO says one thing on the stump but actually does something else. All talk.
Aussie, I wish I knew, our country has really got a bad name and I’m afraid it is only going to get worse.
Posted by: deb | September 22, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Mission Accomplished !
Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye.
In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative.
The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks. The federal government’s actions were so egregious and so unprecedented that all 50 state attorneys general, and all 50 state banking superintendents, actively fought the new rules.
Posted by: Rex | September 22, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Hey Aussie
Our Media is too biased to be fair these days, so indeed they can no longer be trusted to be an example for the rest of the world. They have political agendas,and no longer represent all of AMerica. They only represent the opinions, views, ideologies of their CEOs, the reporters themselves. Its a sad day for AMericans to be bombarded with this type of biased coverage. Even old schoolers like Gibson, Walters, have sunk to new lows to promote their agenda. The American Media is a joke now. Until the FCC clamps down and starts to pull the free licenses, it wont get any better. I see your views have already been retarded by our media. Its not to late. Turn off your tv.
Why no mention of McCains collbaration with the vietnamise that got Australian and Americans killed ?
Why no mention of McCains history of turning hiss back on MIA’s and why did he push for normal relations with them when they hadnt provided a full account of the mia’s fate.
Why no mention of the keating five ?
Why no mention of CINDY AND John setting up her aide to take the fall and go to prison when Cindy stole drugs from a childrens charity to feed her adiction ? I mean they set the guy up and he served time! They lied about him he went to prison! She later when caught checked her self in rehab (She did no time) ?
I dont get it at all!
Hey fellow social conservatives:
After the wars, financial crises, foreclosures, Mark Foley, Abramoff, Larry Craig, Ted Stevens, etc.
AT LEAST WE DEFEATED GAY MARRIAGE!
Notafool, Being left is a major problem the country has? I would disagree. I would say that our country is just coming around to their senses, and the right are scared to death about it. This country went too far right for too long with King George Bush. Just becaus e most everybody doesnt see the extreme right view like you, doesnt mean theres something wrong with the country. It means theres something wrong with you.
Hi WakeUpPeople,
I watch only a little of your news! We have our own media reporting on your election and they bring up things never mentioned on yours.
I do watch a little CNN wich I find it honest but a little bland.
I watch a little fox which we over here think is a joke “fair and balanced” now that comedy. Its propaganda I think russian news is proberly more fair and ballanced lol.
I watch ABC but am a little sceptical as Disney donated thousands of dollars to Hillary and to McCain… McCain being there last horse in the race makes me question them ? Tapper does ok and I like seeing what you guys are thinking!
WakeUpPeople can you tell me what about Mccain you like ?
Forget for a sexond about hate of Barack Obama I just want to know what you like about Mccain please ?
Thanks!
Ryan C =
The head of Fannie’s lobbying group was listed as an adviser on one press release (Aquiles Suarez.)
As noted already, Homeownership Alliance is primarily a public advocacy group that specifically does not lobby Congress or the Administration (Rick Davis).
As for Gramm, his point was that there was no recesssion (technically true) but that people were reacting on an emotional level more than economic. True, advisers to political campaigns should never call voters whiners; but – when GDP is still growing, there’s no absolute recession, and people are still citing “recession” as a given and contributing behavior that might lead to an absolute recession… Gramm’s view might be understandable.
Last, McCain has always said he’s fundamentally a deregulator — that’s indicative of his baseline philosophy, not an absolute indicator of behavior – he has a history of supporting regulation in certain circumstances.
Aussie,
They’re all in the tank for Obama and that’s all you need to know.
Fox News is the most fair and balanced, because they’ll show both sides.
There. Now run along and spread the word.
Posted by: No Obama | September 22, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
The worse the economic situation looks, the more Obama is likely to lose.
Nobody is going to put a crisis in the hands of a newcomer. People trust McCain and there’s nothing the media can do to stop that.
No way. No how. No Obama.
Posted by: No Obama | September 22, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
No Obama, Dreammm, dreammm, dreammm dreammmmmmm. You know the song.
Get a life! John McCain is a patriot and his maverick positions are well known. He is trusted by more Americans to keep this country safe and to get it out of any crisis – including this economical one. Bammy has no record and what little we know of him shows a very poor and weak character and judgement. Hey – you know what they say – judge a person by the company he keeps! Nobama is a tax and spend elitist Liberal – the last thing we need in such a fragile economy. Y’all can dig up all the mud and lies you want about McCain – most Americans TRUST him in times of crisis and honour and respect him for his SERVICE and love of country – not for empty words. You know – action speaks louder than words.
So, after we commit to spend $700Million to a $Trillion to bail out the wealthy and privileged, both candidates continue to pretend they will cut your taxes. Folks, we just bought securities that NO ONE in the business of calculating risk and buying and selling securities wanted. This tells me the short-term and long-term value of this debt is at or near zero. Both parties are talking complete nonsense based on the econobabble being spewed by Wall Street and government “experts”.
“Fox News is the most fair and balanced, because they’ll show both sides.”
LOL.
Of course no mention of HOW they show both sides.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
“you know what they say – judge a person by the company he keeps”
So the McCain administration would be a 3rd Bush term given the number of Bushies who are running the campaign.
Interesting.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
No oBama
wow are you guys getting funny
a smear ad that went viral on Palin…
used the same professional voice actor as one that the guy who produced the ad…his employer one of the biggest PR firms around…
used for a gig that some employee…at Axelrod’s agency had been given a couple of times….
so now there is a “scandal”
you people are sad…and laughable
how about the bigger issue
a woman who says she can see Russia from her house and a man who has fought for and been involved in the loss of a trillion dollars from us…
3 times!
Mccain Palin quite possible worse than Bush Cheney.
His high school mates loved him so much they had nicknames for him. Punk and Mcnasty, those are the words you want to be remembered for in your yearbook. And he hasnt changed one bit. He threatens even his own lawmaker friends. His temper frightens those who know him best. He lives by intimidation. Hes still Mcnasty the Punk.
Ryan C
We had a specail report over her on our ABC the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.. Did you know it was Fox News that started the Muslim story about Obama ? Here they would have to run ads corecting the record.. There they just rolled with it!
PS All of Australia is happy Murdouch is not in this counrty and We are sorry you guys got him!
As noted already, Homeownership Alliance is primarily a public advocacy group that specifically does not lobby Congress or the Administration (Rick Davis).”
LOL. The Homeownership Alliance is a k street lobbying group with extensive ties to Republican media consultants. Davis was not the only one to lobby for Fannie Mae though. Charlies Black who infamously opined that a terrorist attack on US soil would be good for McCain also made a ton of money lobbying for Fannie Mae.
“As for Gramm, his point was that there was no recesssion (technically true) but that people were reacting on an emotional level more than economic. True, advisers to political campaigns should never call voters whiners; but – when GDP is still growing, there’s no absolute recession, and people are still citing “recession” as a given and contributing behavior that might lead to an absolute recession… Gramm’s view might be understandable.”
McCain just said we have to come up with a new definition for recession because GDP growth alone won’t cut it.
How is Gramm’s view understandable to call people whiners and that the recession is mental when two months later the pillars of our economy went crashing down? I guess that would be an understandable view to the person that was at the forefront of deregulation that caused the mess.
“Last, McCain has always said he’s fundamentally a deregulator — that’s indicative of his baseline philosophy, not an absolute indicator of behavior – he has a history of supporting regulation in certain circumstances.”
Regulation that does nothing. His mortgage crisis solution was to replace one agency with another that had less oversight powers. He believes in deregulation on all levels and has shown that in his voting pattern and stances in everything from finance to broadband access.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
and Belle Starr
Biden is the poorest.
because he made a promise to never own stock or equity in a company …
A 30 year promise that is beyond rare in our nation’s history.
Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) is 501(c)(3) non-profit organization in the United States. It functions as a think-tank, ‘government watchdog’, and advocacy group for fiscally conservative causes. Its stated goal is “to eliminate waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement in the federal government.” The Council for Citizens Against Government Waste (CCAGW) is the lobbying arm of CAGW, organized as a section 501(c)(4) organization, and therefore permitted to engage in direct lobbying activities. CAGW has been criticized for its links to the tobacco industry and to lobbyists including Jack Abramoff.
“Did you know it was Fox News that started the Muslim story about Obama ? Here they would have to run ads corecting the record.. There they just rolled with it! ”
Oh I know.
They have never run ads retracting their shows claims.
Some of the more insane right wingers on their network claim they never said a word about it.
Right wingers love to lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Not only did Rick Davis and Charlie Black
and gramm lobby for the deregulation (Gramm wrote some of the laws on the books…before he wrote John mcCain’s plans to build on those laws)
but Scheunnemann was the President of the Committee for Liberation of Iraq
an organization that lobbied for the war and whose members include the people who received the first and largest contracts from Iraq.
this ticket is the worst we have seen now
perhaps in the history of our nation.
and yes…worse than Bush Cheney.
“Biden is the poorest.
because he made a promise to never own stock or equity in a company … “
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Belle do you mean the one that is going overseas and is the attorney general for the state of delaware…who lost (like his brother) mother and sister… and Biden had to return night after night for thirty years on a train to make sure they were raised right?
Is that one of the “Capitalist kids” you are talking about?
Capitalism isn’t a dirty word…
and seeing as how Mccain’s beliefs for a second time in a row have pushed socialism down are throats… at the cost of a trillion dollars…
yeah I think it is great that Biden’s kids turned out as well as they did.
stunned 86125
Please see my posts regatding Citizens Against Government Waste they were in the story on ABC Aust last night Republican funded group of lobbyists! That why FOX reported it. Its a BS group!
everyone just needs to keep remembering
1 trillion Mccain Keating deregulation S&L
2nd trillion McCain Bush Iraq War
3rd trillion McCain Gramm Davis, Black and the rest of his leadership team/deregulation lobbyists and the forced socialistic bail out
Throw these bums out
same team
same tactics
same results
How many trillions does Mccain and his policies and confidants have to lose us on the next lesson he has to learn and flip on after we have lost the money from us.
Makes sense why he has 7 homes that Cindy and his father in laws money bought..and owns 13 cars which he seems to be confused as to who owns which to this day…
He is really good at spending/throwing away other people’s money.
Throughout its history, CAGW has been accused of fronting lobbying efforts of corporations to give them the appearance of “grassroots” support.[16]In part, this is because CAGW has accepted donations from Phillip Morris, the Olin Foundation, the Bradley Foundation, Microsoft, Merrill-Lynch, and Exxon-Mobil.
Thank you Aussie, I will look into that, , but that doesn’t change the fact that the data they compiled for that scorecard are from BOTH the Senators voting records and Obama’s is all talk
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
I have to say Im starting to worry/think that no matter how america votes McCain is going to win…
Why you guys have computer voting machines ill never understand!
The fact your In Iraq and Afgainstian to me seems the masters of your country want to go into Iran and take their oil.
Iraq and Afgainstian being the bordering countries of Iran and Palins GW Bush like piece in the paper today! the pit ball seems all for it!
???
Aussie, I just copied and pasted your entire post and “googled” it — it comes directly from Wikipedia. Not that I don’t believe you, I have found additional info out there, but
1. Wikipedia is not a very reliable source
2. you should site your source
Hi stunned 86125
Please read up on them! Anyone can make a scored card and make rules to make up anything its a propaganda thing! If you support McCain that your right! But if you use that info in your decission (which i doubt your doing) your being tricked.
stunned 86125
I told you were I saw about them it was on ABC Australia. Yes the tex was from winki and if you look at the text and push the number next to them they show you the sources!
^ “Remarks on Receiving the Final Report of the President’s Private Sector Survey on Cost Control in the Federal Government”. President Ronald Reagan Speech October 28, 1985. Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ “A Hole in the Government’s Pocket”. FrontPage Magazine. Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ “‘Pig book’ puts pet spending in spotlight”. MSNBC. Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ “Right-Left Coalition Denounces Boeing Corporate Welfare Deal”. CommonDreams . Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ “Sen. Thune avoids being named ‘Porker of the Year’”. Rapid City Journal. Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ CAGW Names Sen. Dodd Porker of the Month
^ Olavsrud, Thor (August 23, 2001). “Microsoft Supported by Dead People”. InternetNews Retrieved on December 19, 2006.
^ Schatz, Thomas A. (August 23, 2001). “CAGW Criticizes LA Times Story”. politech. Retrieved on December 19, 2006.
^ Citizens Against Government Waste: NewsRelease_09302003b
^ Mass. official: “Open source” reports overstated | InfoWorld | News | 2003-10-03 | By Paul Roberts, IDG News Service
^ [1], Letter supporting Youth Smoking Reduction Act by CAGW
^ [2], Letter against Youth Smoking Reduction Act by several public health agencies
^ [3],Recap of ASSIST Meeting
^ When tobacco needed a voice, CAGW spoke up and profited, St. Petersburg Times, April 2, 2006
^ (kpx21c00)
^ a b For price, watchdog will be an advocate, St. Petersburg Times, April 2, 2006
^ “Senate Report: Five Nonprofit Groups Sold Clout to Abramoff”, Washington Post (2006-10-12).
The worse the economic situation looks, the more Obama is likely to lose.
—————
Actually Obama’s numbers jumped after the announcement of the Wall Street collapse.
But you hold on to your dreams. You’ve still got a few weeks before reality sets in.
“There has been a lot of talk about who is to blame for this crisis. A look back at the story of 2005 makes the answer pretty clear.”
The prohibition on posting links gets in the way of info, but “Search” the above at bloomberg.
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
No, I am not basing my vote for him on that alone. But Obama’s record is public knowledge, and the scorecard isn’t fudged …
I will look into the group, I like to get my information from several sources, because everyone always has their bias. That is why I don’t just watch Fox News and always do my own fact checking and never rely on Jake Taper alone.
Meet the Press Interview:
TIM RUSSERT: The fact is you are different than George Bush.
SEN. McCAIN: No. No. The fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.
THAT ABOUT SUMS IT UP.
THANKS “MAVERICK”!
Posted by: In the words of a "Maverick" | September 22, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Public Allies is an American non-profit, largely taxpayer-funded organization, dedicated to youth leadership development. Founded in 1992 by Vanessa Kirsch and Katrina Browne in Washington D.C., other sites soon followed
“Barack Obama founded Public Allies in Chicago in 1992, and Michelle Obama became the executive director. The group uses tax payer dollars to pay people who sign up.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
stunned 86125
I dont doubt you!
“the scorecard isn’t fudged”
The method of the ranking and the source that provides the information is involved in far to many Controversies to be believed. Its a republican party tool that along with its lobbyists link makes me say its result are worth nothing!
belle:
the ‘story’ goes back a lot further than that:
go over to Daily KOS (if you dare) and read the rest:
“Three Times is Enemy Action”
“In 1982, the same year John McCain entered the Senate, a bill was put forward that would substantially deregulate the Savings and Loan industry. The Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act was an initiative of the Reagan administration, and was largely authored by lobbyists for the S&L industry — including John McCain’s warm-up speaker at the convention, Fred Thompson. The official description of the bill was “An act to revitalize the housing industry by strengthening the financial stability of home mortgage lending institutions and ensuring the availability of home mortgage loans.” Considering where things stand in 2008, that may sound dubious. It should.
Seven years later, the S&L industry was collapsing. What was the cause? Garn-St. Germain handed the S&Ls a greatly expanded range of capabilities, allowing them to go head to head with full service banks, but it didn’t give them the bank’s regulations.cranked out enough cheap mortgages to fuel a real estate boom. They also experimented with lots of complex, creative — and risky — investments, even though they didn’t have the economic models to really determine the worth of the things they were buying. The result was a mountain of bad debts and worthless “assets.”ranked out enough cheap mortgages to fuel a real estate boom.
They also experimented with lots of complex, creative — and risky — investments, even though they didn’t have the economic models to really determine the worth of the things they were buying. The result was a mountain of bad debts and worthless “assets.” Does any of that sound eerily (or nauseatingly) familiar?”
Posted by: Rex | September 22, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Romano – “The real problem here is that McCain’s campaign is swarming with 26 advisers or fundraisers who have lobbied for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac–including nearly a dozen who lobby right now”
Hypocrisy thy name is McCain.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
How does he feel about Milli Vanilli?
Is he a “Rob” guy or a “FAB” guy?
Posted by: Fran Tasy Football | September 22, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Ryan C can I ask you which part of the states you come from ?
The McCain campaign has hinted that Phil Gramm could be considered for Treasury Secretary.
And McCain spokesperson Tucker Bounds, just this last Sunday would not flat out say that Gramm would not be included in a McCain administration. Why not?
So, Jake, looks like you got your facts wrong about Obama linking McCain’s campaign to Phil Gramm. See cincyr’s post. They won’t deny that Phil Gramm, arguably the biggest promoter of deregulation while in Congress and probably still believes in it since they all (meaning Republicans) believe in a unfettered free market (prove me wrong, boys and girls) which is largely responsible for the biggest economic meltdown since the big D.
Posted by: Joan | September 22, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
“they all (meaning Republicans) believe in a unfettered free market (prove me wrong, boys and girls) which is largely responsible for the biggest economic meltdown since the big D.”
Well, we certainly know now how unfettered lending to people who can’t or won’t pay them back turns out, don’t we sweetie?
“The real problem here is that McCain’s campaign is swarming with 26 advisers or fundraisers who have lobbied for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac–including nearly a dozen who lobby right now”
What a loon.
Obama took more money from the criminals at fred and fannie in 3 years than anyone else took in 8 year.
McCain listed social security and medicare in his balanced budget farce as a area to cut.
McCain refuses to provide any information about how to fund the social security shortage. The media are guilty for not pushing McCain for details. It is an extremely important area.
Posted by: Jim | September 22, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Email
CPAC: Romney Struggles to Convince Voters 
Obama Backs Off Birth Control Battle?
Senator John McCain’s campaign manager Rick Davis was paid more than $30,000 a month for five years as president of an advocacy group set up by the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to defend them against stricter regulations, current and former officials say.
Read all about it in today’s New York Times.
Posted by: GOP = scandal | September 22, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Good Morning America. ABC. Charles Gibson.
Unbiased? LOL!
Doesn’t matter what they say. It will be filled with lies.
Posted by: notafool | September 22, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Mr.Tapper,
The McCain campaign was quoting a Washington Post article, where Raines himself said he was advising Obama.
Taking the word of a criminal like Raines, and a denial of McCains opponent, is hardly fact checking, sir.
Posted by: hippie | September 22, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
notafool,
you can’t view something with which you don’t agree? that might be part of the problem. btw, gibson is not in the report. try watching somtehing other than FOX.
Posted by: thoughts ... | September 22, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
The heat is on McCain.
Catch all his lies.
All we need to do is tell the truth and they will whine about our giving them hell.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | September 22, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Actually JPT it is unclear that the claim about Phil Gramm is false. Tucker Bounds, spokesperson for McCain, dodged the question when directly asked whether Gramm would become Treasury secretary or have any other position in a McCain administration. Bounds only said the Obama campaign had no way of knowing that and kept repeating that Gramm was no longer an official advisor to McCain (although he is still unofficially advising him). I would consider the failure to answer the question a confirmation, particularly considering the history of this campaign.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 22, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Can someone here tell me is it true that all newly registered voters dont appear on survey list ?
So all he polls will be way off ?
Obama has signed up new voter 4 to 1 ??
Any one have any info ???
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Dee Dee Lynn I was just going to post the samething !!! Tapper what say you ??
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
When is some “clever” reporter going to report on the involvement that McCain had with the Savings & Loan scandal which cost the taxpayers billions to bail out. McCain was held by the Senate Ethics Comm.to have shown “poor judgment” in meeting with the culprits prior to the scandal exploding on the scene. The leading felon was Charles Keating, a good friend of McCain’s, contributed several hundred thousand dollars to his Senatorial campaign. McCain was one of the “Keating 5.” Why is this relevant? Because McCain is a self described “deregulator” and poor gov’t oversight is what caused the S&L scandal and what caused the present fiasco which will cost the taxpayers almost one trillion dollars. Let’s hear from McCain about this.
Posted by: theMick752 | September 22, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
QUESTION: What exactly is Fannie Mae’s involvement in the current financial crisis?
ANSWER: Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac bought some of the tainted securities.
Various investment banks (some of which no longer exist, not Fannie Mae) took B grade (or worse) mortgages, MIXED with A grade mortgages, and generated asset based securities.
These new securities, based in part on questionable mortgages, were somehow graded AAA by the bond rating companies. Many, many financial companies including Fannie Mae bought these now toxic securities.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were among the last financial institutions to start acquiring these securities.
This last year commercial banks and investment banks have run away from the market.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been the ONLY ones making mortgage loans.
Posted by: John | September 22, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Aussie, I find it odd that in Louisiana there are 1.5 million dems registered and 700 thousand rebublicans but yet their saying it is a red state. I’m scratching my head over this one.
Posted by: deb | September 22, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
“you can’t view something with which you don’t agree?”
It’s impossible not to hear the drumbeat from the Left. Don’t kid yourself. It permeates the country. One has to seek out alternative views.
It’s the major problem the country has. If you don’t have the time to look, ALL you will EVER hear is left-wing propoganda. It’s the main reason so many people vote for socialism and retreat when the clear lessons of history go the other way.
Does pointing it out disturb you somehow?
Posted by: notafool | September 22, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Why are there no headlines that are pro-Obama? At least have some negative headlines against McCain or Palin. ABC ,and the other tv/web networks , need to continue to be homers for the DNC. They need to do so in order to offset talk radio being so conservative.
Posted by: Eric Holland | September 22, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
“The McCain campaign was quoting a Washington Post article, where Raines himself said he was advising Obama”
The original WaPo quote was anonymous.
It only came out after the ad that Raines was the source of the quote.
So we have 1 adviser who advising seems to be a couple of calls and 1 adviser who helped in the VP vetting & search.
The architect of the McCain campaign was a lobbyist for Fannie Mae. McCain chief economics policy adviser (and whose plan McCain still uses) is a dereg guru who called the nation a bunch of whiners. McCain himself is a devotee of deregulation.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Fact Check.
NBC, ABC, CNN, NYT, etc etc etc run a dis proportionate number of anti Conservative/ PRo Obama stories and need to be investigated by the FCC.
Posted by: WakeUpPeople | September 22, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Hi deb,
We dont get it over here either ? We also dont get why your media is letting Palin dodge questions and McCain lie so much over here our news wouldnt take any of that! We are frank people in Australia but whats wrong with your press ?
I remember when your press was the examle to the world.. No its gutless.
Why are people protesting her and mccain for lying ?
Why isnt your media saying we cant tell you about here because she want answer questions and tell people to vote against them ??
I dont get it ?
Deb Do you know which states use computer voting machines ??
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
sorry for the poor spelling its 3am tomorrow here! Im only half awake!
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Fact Check.
Jake Tapper himself has an agenda to get Obama elected as evidenced by his biased blogs Post Subjects. Almost 100% are anti McCain Palin. Woops. This is ABC.
Posted by: WakeUpPeople | September 22, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
“Why are there no headlines that are pro-Obama? At least have some negative headlines against McCain or Palin. ABC ,and the other tv/web networks , need to continue to be homers for the DNC. They need to do so in order to offset talk radio being so conservative.”
This guy lives in a fantasy world.
Posted by: notafool | September 22, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
McCain/Palin erased a 34 point Obama lead on question of which ticket better understands women.
And the fact that McCain pays female staffers more than Obama–even though on the stump BO preaches equal pay for women.
It’s well known BO says one thing on the stump but actually does something else. All talk.
Posted by: meggie | September 22, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Aussie, I wish I knew, our country has really got a bad name and I’m afraid it is only going to get worse.
Posted by: deb | September 22, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Mission Accomplished !
Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye.
In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative.
The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks. The federal government’s actions were so egregious and so unprecedented that all 50 state attorneys general, and all 50 state banking superintendents, actively fought the new rules.
Posted by: Rex | September 22, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Hey Aussie
Our Media is too biased to be fair these days, so indeed they can no longer be trusted to be an example for the rest of the world. They have political agendas,and no longer represent all of AMerica. They only represent the opinions, views, ideologies of their CEOs, the reporters themselves. Its a sad day for AMericans to be bombarded with this type of biased coverage. Even old schoolers like Gibson, Walters, have sunk to new lows to promote their agenda. The American Media is a joke now. Until the FCC clamps down and starts to pull the free licenses, it wont get any better. I see your views have already been retarded by our media. Its not to late. Turn off your tv.
Posted by: WakeUpPeople | September 22, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Why no mention of McCains collbaration with the vietnamise that got Australian and Americans killed ?
Why no mention of McCains history of turning hiss back on MIA’s and why did he push for normal relations with them when they hadnt provided a full account of the mia’s fate.
Why no mention of the keating five ?
Why no mention of CINDY AND John setting up her aide to take the fall and go to prison when Cindy stole drugs from a childrens charity to feed her adiction ? I mean they set the guy up and he served time! They lied about him he went to prison! She later when caught checked her self in rehab (She did no time) ?
I dont get it at all!
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Hey fellow social conservatives:
After the wars, financial crises, foreclosures, Mark Foley, Abramoff, Larry Craig, Ted Stevens, etc.
AT LEAST WE DEFEATED GAY MARRIAGE!
Posted by: JV | September 22, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Notafool, Being left is a major problem the country has? I would disagree. I would say that our country is just coming around to their senses, and the right are scared to death about it. This country went too far right for too long with King George Bush. Just becaus e most everybody doesnt see the extreme right view like you, doesnt mean theres something wrong with the country. It means theres something wrong with you.
Posted by: Fairfax | September 22, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Hi WakeUpPeople,
I watch only a little of your news! We have our own media reporting on your election and they bring up things never mentioned on yours.
I do watch a little CNN wich I find it honest but a little bland.
I watch a little fox which we over here think is a joke “fair and balanced” now that comedy. Its propaganda I think russian news is proberly more fair and ballanced lol.
I watch ABC but am a little sceptical as Disney donated thousands of dollars to Hillary and to McCain… McCain being there last horse in the race makes me question them ? Tapper does ok and I like seeing what you guys are thinking!
WakeUpPeople can you tell me what about Mccain you like ?
Forget for a sexond about hate of Barack Obama I just want to know what you like about Mccain please ?
Thanks!
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Ryan C =
The head of Fannie’s lobbying group was listed as an adviser on one press release (Aquiles Suarez.)
As noted already, Homeownership Alliance is primarily a public advocacy group that specifically does not lobby Congress or the Administration (Rick Davis).
As for Gramm, his point was that there was no recesssion (technically true) but that people were reacting on an emotional level more than economic. True, advisers to political campaigns should never call voters whiners; but – when GDP is still growing, there’s no absolute recession, and people are still citing “recession” as a given and contributing behavior that might lead to an absolute recession… Gramm’s view might be understandable.
Last, McCain has always said he’s fundamentally a deregulator — that’s indicative of his baseline philosophy, not an absolute indicator of behavior – he has a history of supporting regulation in certain circumstances.
Posted by: TT | September 22, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Aussie,
They’re all in the tank for Obama and that’s all you need to know.
Fox News is the most fair and balanced, because they’ll show both sides.
There. Now run along and spread the word.
Posted by: No Obama | September 22, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
The worse the economic situation looks, the more Obama is likely to lose.
Nobody is going to put a crisis in the hands of a newcomer. People trust McCain and there’s nothing the media can do to stop that.
No way. No how. No Obama.
Posted by: No Obama | September 22, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
No Obama, Dreammm, dreammm, dreammm dreammmmmmm. You know the song.
Posted by: Fairfax | September 22, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
“McCain/Palin erased a 34 point Obama lead on question of which ticket better understands women.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Ummm people trust McCain? Which “people” are you speaking of. I wouldnt trust the bastard as far as I can throw him. Hes a bald faced liar.
Posted by: Fairfax | September 22, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Get a life! John McCain is a patriot and his maverick positions are well known. He is trusted by more Americans to keep this country safe and to get it out of any crisis – including this economical one. Bammy has no record and what little we know of him shows a very poor and weak character and judgement. Hey – you know what they say – judge a person by the company he keeps! Nobama is a tax and spend elitist Liberal – the last thing we need in such a fragile economy. Y’all can dig up all the mud and lies you want about McCain – most Americans TRUST him in times of crisis and honour and respect him for his SERVICE and love of country – not for empty words. You know – action speaks louder than words.
Posted by: Beckie | September 22, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
So, after we commit to spend $700Million to a $Trillion to bail out the wealthy and privileged, both candidates continue to pretend they will cut your taxes. Folks, we just bought securities that NO ONE in the business of calculating risk and buying and selling securities wanted. This tells me the short-term and long-term value of this debt is at or near zero. Both parties are talking complete nonsense based on the econobabble being spewed by Wall Street and government “experts”.
Posted by: dem-dog | September 22, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
“Fox News is the most fair and balanced, because they’ll show both sides.”
LOL.
Of course no mention of HOW they show both sides.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
“you know what they say – judge a person by the company he keeps”
So the McCain administration would be a 3rd Bush term given the number of Bushies who are running the campaign.
Interesting.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
No oBama
wow are you guys getting funny
a smear ad that went viral on Palin…
used the same professional voice actor as one that the guy who produced the ad…his employer one of the biggest PR firms around…
used for a gig that some employee…at Axelrod’s agency had been given a couple of times….
so now there is a “scandal”
you people are sad…and laughable
how about the bigger issue
a woman who says she can see Russia from her house and a man who has fought for and been involved in the loss of a trillion dollars from us…
3 times!
Mccain Palin quite possible worse than Bush Cheney.
Posted by: dl | September 22, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
His high school mates loved him so much they had nicknames for him. Punk and Mcnasty, those are the words you want to be remembered for in your yearbook. And he hasnt changed one bit. He threatens even his own lawmaker friends. His temper frightens those who know him best. He lives by intimidation. Hes still Mcnasty the Punk.
Posted by: grumpybumpy | September 22, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
and stunned 86125
your comment talks about a non partisan group and then you link to Fox news
there are no words…
lol lol lol lol
Posted by: dl | September 22, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Ryan C
We had a specail report over her on our ABC the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.. Did you know it was Fox News that started the Muslim story about Obama ? Here they would have to run ads corecting the record.. There they just rolled with it!
PS All of Australia is happy Murdouch is not in this counrty and We are sorry you guys got him!
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Oblahblahblah is just plain boring.
Posted by: Kitty | September 22, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
As noted already, Homeownership Alliance is primarily a public advocacy group that specifically does not lobby Congress or the Administration (Rick Davis).”
LOL. The Homeownership Alliance is a k street lobbying group with extensive ties to Republican media consultants. Davis was not the only one to lobby for Fannie Mae though. Charlies Black who infamously opined that a terrorist attack on US soil would be good for McCain also made a ton of money lobbying for Fannie Mae.
“As for Gramm, his point was that there was no recesssion (technically true) but that people were reacting on an emotional level more than economic. True, advisers to political campaigns should never call voters whiners; but – when GDP is still growing, there’s no absolute recession, and people are still citing “recession” as a given and contributing behavior that might lead to an absolute recession… Gramm’s view might be understandable.”
McCain just said we have to come up with a new definition for recession because GDP growth alone won’t cut it.
How is Gramm’s view understandable to call people whiners and that the recession is mental when two months later the pillars of our economy went crashing down? I guess that would be an understandable view to the person that was at the forefront of deregulation that caused the mess.
“Last, McCain has always said he’s fundamentally a deregulator — that’s indicative of his baseline philosophy, not an absolute indicator of behavior – he has a history of supporting regulation in certain circumstances.”
Regulation that does nothing. His mortgage crisis solution was to replace one agency with another that had less oversight powers. He believes in deregulation on all levels and has shown that in his voting pattern and stances in everything from finance to broadband access.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
and Belle Starr
Biden is the poorest.
because he made a promise to never own stock or equity in a company …
A 30 year promise that is beyond rare in our nation’s history.
Posted by: dl | September 22, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Hey, Ryan C, that is indeed a case of pot calling the kettle black!!!! LOL!!!
Posted by: Beckie | September 22, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) is 501(c)(3) non-profit organization in the United States. It functions as a think-tank, ‘government watchdog’, and advocacy group for fiscally conservative causes. Its stated goal is “to eliminate waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement in the federal government.” The Council for Citizens Against Government Waste (CCAGW) is the lobbying arm of CAGW, organized as a section 501(c)(4) organization, and therefore permitted to engage in direct lobbying activities. CAGW has been criticized for its links to the tobacco industry and to lobbyists including Jack Abramoff.
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
“Did you know it was Fox News that started the Muslim story about Obama ? Here they would have to run ads corecting the record.. There they just rolled with it! ”
Oh I know.
They have never run ads retracting their shows claims.
Some of the more insane right wingers on their network claim they never said a word about it.
Right wingers love to lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Not only did Rick Davis and Charlie Black
and gramm lobby for the deregulation (Gramm wrote some of the laws on the books…before he wrote John mcCain’s plans to build on those laws)
but Scheunnemann was the President of the Committee for Liberation of Iraq
an organization that lobbied for the war and whose members include the people who received the first and largest contracts from Iraq.
this ticket is the worst we have seen now
perhaps in the history of our nation.
and yes…worse than Bush Cheney.
Posted by: dl | September 22, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
“Biden is the poorest.
because he made a promise to never own stock or equity in a company … “
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Belle do you mean the one that is going overseas and is the attorney general for the state of delaware…who lost (like his brother) mother and sister… and Biden had to return night after night for thirty years on a train to make sure they were raised right?
Is that one of the “Capitalist kids” you are talking about?
Capitalism isn’t a dirty word…
and seeing as how Mccain’s beliefs for a second time in a row have pushed socialism down are throats… at the cost of a trillion dollars…
yeah I think it is great that Biden’s kids turned out as well as they did.
Posted by: dl | September 22, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
stunned 86125
Please see my posts regatding Citizens Against Government Waste they were in the story on ABC Aust last night Republican funded group of lobbyists! That why FOX reported it. Its a BS group!
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
everyone just needs to keep remembering
1 trillion Mccain Keating deregulation S&L
2nd trillion McCain Bush Iraq War
3rd trillion McCain Gramm Davis, Black and the rest of his leadership team/deregulation lobbyists and the forced socialistic bail out
Throw these bums out
same team
same tactics
same results
How many trillions does Mccain and his policies and confidants have to lose us on the next lesson he has to learn and flip on after we have lost the money from us.
Makes sense why he has 7 homes that Cindy and his father in laws money bought..and owns 13 cars which he seems to be confused as to who owns which to this day…
He is really good at spending/throwing away other people’s money.
Posted by: dl | September 22, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Throughout its history, CAGW has been accused of fronting lobbying efforts of corporations to give them the appearance of “grassroots” support.[16]In part, this is because CAGW has accepted donations from Phillip Morris, the Olin Foundation, the Bradley Foundation, Microsoft, Merrill-Lynch, and Exxon-Mobil.
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Thank you Aussie, I will look into that, , but that doesn’t change the fact that the data they compiled for that scorecard are from BOTH the Senators voting records and Obama’s is all talk
Posted by: stunned 86125 | September 22, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
“Capitalism isn’t a dirty word…”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
I have to say Im starting to worry/think that no matter how america votes McCain is going to win…
Why you guys have computer voting machines ill never understand!
The fact your In Iraq and Afgainstian to me seems the masters of your country want to go into Iran and take their oil.
Iraq and Afgainstian being the bordering countries of Iran and Palins GW Bush like piece in the paper today! the pit ball seems all for it!
???
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Aussie, I just copied and pasted your entire post and “googled” it — it comes directly from Wikipedia. Not that I don’t believe you, I have found additional info out there, but
1. Wikipedia is not a very reliable source
2. you should site your source
Posted by: stunned 86125 | September 22, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Hi stunned 86125
Please read up on them! Anyone can make a scored card and make rules to make up anything its a propaganda thing! If you support McCain that your right! But if you use that info in your decission (which i doubt your doing) your being tricked.
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
stunned 86125
I told you were I saw about them it was on ABC Australia. Yes the tex was from winki and if you look at the text and push the number next to them they show you the sources!
^ “Remarks on Receiving the Final Report of the President’s Private Sector Survey on Cost Control in the Federal Government”. President Ronald Reagan Speech October 28, 1985. Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ “A Hole in the Government’s Pocket”. FrontPage Magazine. Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ “‘Pig book’ puts pet spending in spotlight”. MSNBC. Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ “Right-Left Coalition Denounces Boeing Corporate Welfare Deal”. CommonDreams . Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ “Sen. Thune avoids being named ‘Porker of the Year’”. Rapid City Journal. Retrieved on April 29, 2008.
^ CAGW Names Sen. Dodd Porker of the Month
^ Olavsrud, Thor (August 23, 2001). “Microsoft Supported by Dead People”. InternetNews Retrieved on December 19, 2006.
^ Schatz, Thomas A. (August 23, 2001). “CAGW Criticizes LA Times Story”. politech. Retrieved on December 19, 2006.
^ Citizens Against Government Waste: NewsRelease_09302003b
^ Mass. official: “Open source” reports overstated | InfoWorld | News | 2003-10-03 | By Paul Roberts, IDG News Service
^ [1], Letter supporting Youth Smoking Reduction Act by CAGW
^ [2], Letter against Youth Smoking Reduction Act by several public health agencies
^ [3],Recap of ASSIST Meeting
^ When tobacco needed a voice, CAGW spoke up and profited, St. Petersburg Times, April 2, 2006
^ (kpx21c00)
^ a b For price, watchdog will be an advocate, St. Petersburg Times, April 2, 2006
^ “Senate Report: Five Nonprofit Groups Sold Clout to Abramoff”, Washington Post (2006-10-12).
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
The worse the economic situation looks, the more Obama is likely to lose.
—————
Actually Obama’s numbers jumped after the announcement of the Wall Street collapse.
But you hold on to your dreams. You’ve still got a few weeks before reality sets in.
Posted by: Economic Terrorism | September 22, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
“There has been a lot of talk about who is to blame for this crisis. A look back at the story of 2005 makes the answer pretty clear.”
The prohibition on posting links gets in the way of info, but “Search” the above at bloomberg.
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
No, I am not basing my vote for him on that alone. But Obama’s record is public knowledge, and the scorecard isn’t fudged …
I will look into the group, I like to get my information from several sources, because everyone always has their bias. That is why I don’t just watch Fox News and always do my own fact checking and never rely on Jake Taper alone.
Posted by: stunned 86125 | September 22, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Meet the Press Interview:
TIM RUSSERT: The fact is you are different than George Bush.
SEN. McCAIN: No. No. The fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.
THAT ABOUT SUMS IT UP.
THANKS “MAVERICK”!
Posted by: In the words of a "Maverick" | September 22, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Public Allies is an American non-profit, largely taxpayer-funded organization, dedicated to youth leadership development. Founded in 1992 by Vanessa Kirsch and Katrina Browne in Washington D.C., other sites soon followed
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
“Barack Obama founded Public Allies in Chicago in 1992, and Michelle Obama became the executive director. The group uses tax payer dollars to pay people who sign up.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 22, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
stunned 86125
I dont doubt you!
“the scorecard isn’t fudged”
The method of the ranking and the source that provides the information is involved in far to many Controversies to be believed. Its a republican party tool that along with its lobbyists link makes me say its result are worth nothing!
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
belle:
the ‘story’ goes back a lot further than that:
go over to Daily KOS (if you dare) and read the rest:
“Three Times is Enemy Action”
“In 1982, the same year John McCain entered the Senate, a bill was put forward that would substantially deregulate the Savings and Loan industry. The Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act was an initiative of the Reagan administration, and was largely authored by lobbyists for the S&L industry — including John McCain’s warm-up speaker at the convention, Fred Thompson. The official description of the bill was “An act to revitalize the housing industry by strengthening the financial stability of home mortgage lending institutions and ensuring the availability of home mortgage loans.” Considering where things stand in 2008, that may sound dubious. It should.
Seven years later, the S&L industry was collapsing. What was the cause? Garn-St. Germain handed the S&Ls a greatly expanded range of capabilities, allowing them to go head to head with full service banks, but it didn’t give them the bank’s regulations.cranked out enough cheap mortgages to fuel a real estate boom. They also experimented with lots of complex, creative — and risky — investments, even though they didn’t have the economic models to really determine the worth of the things they were buying. The result was a mountain of bad debts and worthless “assets.”ranked out enough cheap mortgages to fuel a real estate boom.
They also experimented with lots of complex, creative — and risky — investments, even though they didn’t have the economic models to really determine the worth of the things they were buying. The result was a mountain of bad debts and worthless “assets.” Does any of that sound eerily (or nauseatingly) familiar?”
Posted by: Rex | September 22, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Romano – “The real problem here is that McCain’s campaign is swarming with 26 advisers or fundraisers who have lobbied for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac–including nearly a dozen who lobby right now”
Hypocrisy thy name is McCain.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
How does he feel about Milli Vanilli?
Is he a “Rob” guy or a “FAB” guy?
Posted by: Fran Tasy Football | September 22, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Ryan C can I ask you which part of the states you come from ?
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Aussie,
I grew up on the East Coast but now live on the West Coast.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 22, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
K thanks Ryan C Im off to work have a good one and keep up the good fight!
Posted by: Aussie | September 22, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
The McCain campaign has hinted that Phil Gramm could be considered for Treasury Secretary.
And McCain spokesperson Tucker Bounds, just this last Sunday would not flat out say that Gramm would not be included in a McCain administration. Why not?
Posted by: cincyr | September 22, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
So, Jake, looks like you got your facts wrong about Obama linking McCain’s campaign to Phil Gramm. See cincyr’s post. They won’t deny that Phil Gramm, arguably the biggest promoter of deregulation while in Congress and probably still believes in it since they all (meaning Republicans) believe in a unfettered free market (prove me wrong, boys and girls) which is largely responsible for the biggest economic meltdown since the big D.
Posted by: Joan | September 22, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
“they all (meaning Republicans) believe in a unfettered free market (prove me wrong, boys and girls) which is largely responsible for the biggest economic meltdown since the big D.”
Well, we certainly know now how unfettered lending to people who can’t or won’t pay them back turns out, don’t we sweetie?
Posted by: notafool | September 22, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
“The real problem here is that McCain’s campaign is swarming with 26 advisers or fundraisers who have lobbied for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac–including nearly a dozen who lobby right now”
What a loon.
Obama took more money from the criminals at fred and fannie in 3 years than anyone else took in 8 year.
Posted by: notafool | September 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
McCain listed social security and medicare in his balanced budget farce as a area to cut.
McCain refuses to provide any information about how to fund the social security shortage. The media are guilty for not pushing McCain for details. It is an extremely important area.
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