From the Fact Check Desk: Obama’s New Spanish Language TV Ad Es Erróneo
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has launched a new Spanish-language TV ad that seeks to paint Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., as anti-immigrant, even tying the Republican to his longtime conservative talk-radio nemesis Rush Limbaugh.
As first reported by the Washington Post, Obama’s ad features a narrator saying: "They want us to forget the insults we’ve put up with…the intolerance…they made us feel marginalized in this country we love so much."
The screen then shows these two quotes from Limbaugh:
“…stupid and unskilled Mexicans”
—Rush Limbaugh
"You shut your mouth or you get out!”
—Rush Limbaugh
The narrator then says, “John McCain and his Republican friends have two faces. One that says lies just to get our vote…and another, even worse, that continues the policies of George Bush that put special interests ahead of working families. John McCain…more of the same old Republican tricks.”
There are some real factual problems with this ad, which is titled “Dos Caras,” or two faces.
First of all, tying Sen. McCain – especially on the issue of immigration reform – to Limbaugh is unfair.
Limbaugh opposed McCain on that issue. Vociferously. And in a larger sense, it’s unfair to link McCain to Limbaugh on a host of issues since Limbaugh, as any even occasional listener of his knows, doesn’t particularly care for McCain.
Second, the quotes of Limbaugh’s are out of context.
Railing against NAFTA in 1993, Limbaugh said, "If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine ’cause those are the kinds of jobs NAFTA is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I’m serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
Not one of his most eloquent moments, to be sure, but his larger point was that NAFTA would mean that unskilled stupid Mexicans would be doing the jobs of unskilled stupid Americans.
I’m not going to defend how he said it, but to act as if this was just a moment of Limbaugh slurring Mexicans is not accurate. Though again, certainly if people were offended I could understand why.
The second quote is totally unfair. In 2006, Limbaugh was mocking Mexican law, and he wrote:
“Everybody’s making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine to the mix. Call it The Limbaugh Laws:
“First: If you immigrate to our country, you have to speak the native language. You have to be a professional or an investor; no unskilled workers allowed. Also, there will be no special bilingual programs in the schools with the Limbaugh Laws. No special ballots for elections. No government business will be conducted in your language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote or hold political office.
“If you’re in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled to welfare, food stamps, or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here: an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. If not, stay home. But if you want to buy land, it’ll be restricted. No waterfront, for instance. As a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to the property.
“And another thing: You don’t have the right to protest. You’re allowed no demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our President or his policies. You’re a foreigner: shut your mouth or get out! And if you come here illegally, you’re going to jail.
“You think the Limbaugh Laws are harsh? Well, every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico today! That’ how the Mexican government handles immigrants to their country. Yet Mexicans come here illegally and protest in our streets!
“How do you say ‘double standard’ in Spanish? How about: ‘No mas!’”
But even if one is uninclined to see Limbaugh’s quotes as having been taken unfairly out of context, linking them to McCain makes as much sense as running a quote from Bill Maher and linking it to Obama.
Asked for backup as to how Obama could link McCain to Limbaugh, the campaign provided this interview with McCain refusing to condemn the Minutemen from from the Kansas City Star:
Q: ‘Are they a good thing? The Civil Defense Corps, do you think — do they help in the immigration fight, or not?’
A: ‘I think they’re citizens who are entitled to being engaged in the process. They’re obviously very concerned about immigration.’
Q: ‘Are they helpful?’
A: ‘I think that’s up to others to judge. I don’t agree with them, but they certainly are exercising their legal rights as citizens.’
Asked about the “lies” they’re accusing McCain of telling, the Obama campaign provided evidence that McCain in July 2008 told La Raza that he would have voted for the DREAM act, a bill that provides scholarships for the children of illegal immigrants, even thought he earlier in the campaign season said he would have voted against the bill.
Let’s delver further into this.
In the November 2007, Myrtle Beach Sun-News, McCain said of the DREAM Act, which he had cosponsored in the past, "I think it has certain virtues associated with it. And I think other things have virtues associated with it. But the message is they want the borders secured first."
The newspaper noted that McCain said he’d vote against a temporary worker program, even though he supports the idea. "I will vote against anything until we secure the borders," he said. "There is no way we’re going to enact piecemeal immigration reform."
Before La Raza, McCain was asked by a young Latina if he’d support the DREAM Act, and he said, “Yes. Yes.”
The full exchange, however, goes like this:
QUESTIONER: Hi. I’m a part of One Dream 2009 and I am one of the 6 million who either have an undocumented parent or is undocumented and I wanted to know if you would support humanity all around the world and support our Dream Act that we are trying to pass.
MCCAIN: Yes. Yes. Thank you. But I will also enforce the existing laws of a country. And a nation’s first requirement is the nation’s security, and that’s why we have to have our borders secured. But, we can have a way and a process of people obtaining citizenship in this country. And, we cannot penalize people who come here legally and people who wait legally. And so, that’s a fundamental principle on which we have to operate. Thank you.
The Obama campaign also provided a number of seemingly conflicting comments McCain has made about offering greater funding for education programs in the No Child Left Behind act — telling the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials in June that he “would fully fund those programs that have never been fully funded,” while not suggesting any greater funding for the bill when he’s talked about education in front of whiter audiences.
That ignores the fact that McCain has suggested reallocating the way the $23 billion for NCLB is spent.
McCain has changed his rhetoric and his emphasis when discussing immigration after almost losing the GOP presidential nomination because of it.
He now says the borders must be secured before anything else happens. And in that, he’s opened himself up to charges of flip-flopping, though the Obama campaign is quoting him selectively and unfairly to make their points.
The greater implication the ad makes, however, is that McCain is no friend to Latinos at all, beyond issues of funding the DREAM act or how NCLB money is distributed. By linking McCain to Limbaugh’s quotes, twisting Limbaugh’s quotes, and tying McCain to more extremist anti-immigration voices, the Obama campaign has crossed a line into misleading the viewers of its new TV ad. In Spanish, the word is erróneo.
– jpt
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Posted by: Archer | September 17, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
The vast majority of illegal immigrants don’t want to be American. All they want is the money and the benefits. The unemployment rate for illegals is 25%. Obama and McCain don’t want to take the right stand on illegal immigration because it will do harm to their parties efforts to win over latinos and other minorities. They want to create a welfare state.
Posted by: IllegalsOUT | September 17, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Fair is Fair, Neither should blatantly distort the other for political gain. They should be held to the truth, spin it yes, but stay with the truth and spin it. That was the American way, what happened?
Obama/Biden 2008
Posted by: Chipo1965 | September 17, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
What I do not seem to understand about this article is why would the writer defend Rush Limbaugh’s stupid comments….
I am so glad to see where senator Obama is standing up to Rush……
Posted by: shalom | September 17, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Wow… Obama finally getting the hang of republican smear politics! It stinks, but it’s needed.
Posted by: DownSouth | September 17, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Apparently its inappropriate to quote Rush Limbaugh’s racism.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
IllegalsOUT – Don’t speak, no, no, don’t speak.
1) most minorities (if we must generalize) do not agree en masse with other minorities.. If you are going to be a bigot get your stereotypes right.
2) People who are here as non-citizens cannot vote, most Mexican born US citizens (actual voters) do not want non-citizens to come and take their jobs either. Why would they support open borders.
3) There are no statistics for “Illegals” – how can there be, they are the non-counted people. Please site your REPUTABLE source for that statistic. I think you might mean 25% unemp. among hispanics…. are you lumping them all together? (if yes, see point #1)
Posted by: Chipo1965 | September 17, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
“And in that, he’s opened himself up to charges of flip-flopping, though the Obama campaign is quoting him selectively and unfairly to make their points.”
Jake, I think if McCain had been consistent on this issue, it would have been difficult (if not impossible) to quote him selectively and make him look bad. But Quoting him selectively now makes him look shaky on this issue because he has beeen very INCONSISTENT. Do you think it is up to the Obama campaign to cut McCain some slack for his inconsistency? They are not making up words that he did not say or things he did not do. Their job is not to nitpick his position on this issue so that they make him look consistent. It could just be his own inconsistencies that are the root of the problem.
Posted by: Another Question | September 17, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
poor, poor Rush. Try the vicodin (TM).
Posted by: Tungsten | September 17, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Who cares its lie mania an you have to fight fire with fire screw fair Republicans threw that out the window a long time ago. I say time to throw the sand back in their eyes enough of this straight line crap we’re in the Lion cage.
Posted by: V for Vendetta | September 17, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Im glad that Obama finally realizes to win he has to play rough with a rough crowd. Forget Limbaugh and his whole crew, they are racists and even if those statements don’t prove it, others do. Fight to WIN!
Posted by: John | September 17, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Obama is vile when he lies.
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 17, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Rush is a big fat racist, and it’s about time the Democrats called him out on it.
Posted by: nogop | September 17, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Obama does not need to sink to McCain’s level of using distortions. He has enough ammunition to win this election just by letting us know when McCain lies or “Changes his mind”. Tell us about the Gramm/McCain plan for our economy, or lack there of. Help understand why Sara is suddenly so terrified of the Troopergate investigation. Why Sara can’t step up to a microphone and answer my questions without a script or a tele-prompter.
Posted by: Chipo1965 | September 17, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
This is so sleazy, dirty politics. Another reason I could never vote for Obama. The man has no scrupples, he lies. He has been practicing this for sometime.
Posted by: gloria | September 17, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Anti ILLEAGAL immigration will win this race, hands down. NObama is cutting his own throat. America knows the difference between legal and illegal, and the Latinos you are targeting know this. Your target audiences aren’t even legal citizens, hence they do not vote. The legal one who waited in line, like my mother and father find this disgusting. Continue to kick rocks…losers.
Posted by: Uncle Sam | September 17, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
racist always stick together and always hold hands with racist. what does that tell ya, once a racist, always a racist. hatred learned is always too hard to get rid of, which proves what the liberal’s main malfunction is! if you don’t agree with a black man and won’t vote for one, does that make you a racist. i’m a white male from san diego with european and native american blood, i aslo have hispanic’s by blood and african-american’s by adoption in my family and i still do not agree with and will not vote for obama. and i also come from a military family! does that make me a racist? i don’t think so! born and raised in san diego, lived in texas, lived in virgina, now i reside in illinois. i think i seen enough about race to understand that not voting for obama does not make someone racist!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Gee Jake glad to see you devoted 1166 words to clarifying the misrepresentation by the Obama camp.
When will the McCain camp get the same long winded rebuttal for their myriad of lies and half truths.
Posted by: lib4 | September 17, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
I’m an Obama supporter, I volunteer with his campaign here in Gainesville, and I’m Mexican, and even though I don’t agree with these smear ads be they from a republican or a democrat, I just want to say: “john mccain, you reap what you sow.”
Posted by: Will B | September 17, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Another nice trick… trying to send out a lie-filled Spanish message during an economic crisis (under the radar) so that it just slips by. Nice catch.
Change we need … I think not!
Posted by: Diamond Lou | September 17, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Jake shows us that the Obama campaign is plainly lying to Latinos. I hope this comes back and bites him on the butt! “the Obama campaign is quoting him selectively and unfairly to make their points.
The greater implication the ad makes, however, is that McCain is no friend to Latinos at all, beyond issues of funding the DREAM act or how NCLB money is distributed. By linking McCain to Limbaugh’s quotes, twisting Limbaugh’s quotes, and tying McCain to more extremist anti-immigration voices, the Obama campaign has crossed a line into misleading the viewers of its new TV ad. In Spanish, the word is erróneo
Posted by: NOBama | September 17, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Everyone talks of the Republican sleaze;but neglect to mention their instructing Professor…the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Lionheart | September 17, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Obama seems to favor “personal attacks” over attacking McCain’s policy.
Posted by: Bill | September 17, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Ha! The indignation of you pinheaded neocons is hypocritical in the extreme – you guys are the masters of “dirty” distortions.
Suck it up and be a man – “you need to maintain a sense of humor about these things.”
Posted by: 12_angry_men | September 17, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Thank you for explaining the sitation Jake. We need more of this kind of journalism.
Posted by: TH | September 17, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Oh please why is he pandering to people that are breaking the law to begin with???
Just proves what a true criminal Obama and democrats really are…..shameful..and btw mexico isnt a race for the morons that keep trying to play the race card its a nationality and yes it has many many anglos as well…so no race has nothing to do with it..laws do.
Posted by: illegalsleave | September 17, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I see Obama is now counting on ignorance about the lies in his ad and faux racism charges to get Hispanic votes.
Change!
Posted by: Sam39 | September 17, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Let’s see if the drive by media will even try hard to correct this false ad.
Obama supporters are really getting mean and vile. Scared maybe??
I read and watch all sides and it is sickening to see how slanted the network news, CNN,newpapers, magazines, and MSNBC are.
Democrats tend to get more personal with their attacks and do more name-calling than Republicans.
Posted by: jean | September 17, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
The Obama campaign is in trouble! This financial mess is going to hurt the Democrats in a very bad way. Giving credit to people who didn’t have the income to afford a loan isn’t racism, it’s smart.
It’s no accident that both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae gave Obama $85,000.
Why would anyone vote for Barack Obama? Not even his surrogates can answer that question–watch them–it’s pretty funny.
Posted by: Pat | September 17, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
shalom … are you muslim?
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 17, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
It is funny to see ABC go after Obama I never thought I would live to see this day. It is really amazing.
Posted by: Matt | September 17, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Just reading the comments from pro-Obama supporters is enough to make any rational person become republican. Like small children they ignore the lie and tell another one to prove their point. One child even says “Who cares it’s a lie. you have to fight fire with fire” Very mature and well thought out. Hope you’re advising on the debates.
Posted by: Michael Mcilwaine | September 17, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
I doubt much will be made of this because most of the media is liberal. They will not go out of their way to say the Obama campaign is running a sleazy campaign but they will run articles about McCain running sleaze in a heartbeat.
Posted by: ts | September 17, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
It is sad that in such a time of great need we are left scraping the bottom of the barrel with these two frauds (Obama and McCain). They are both pathetic and lacking. Obama is a hollow charlatan and McCain is sure to trudge along the same futile paths as Bush. The more we hear “change” the more we get loads of the “same ol’”.
Posted by: bscur | September 17, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
I doubt much will be made of this because most of the media is liberal. They will not go out of their way to say the Obama campaign is running a sleazy campaign but they will run articles about McCain running sleaze in a heartbeat.
Posted by: ts | September 17, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
McCain in 2005 worked to stop banks from being in the situation we’re in today and the Dems stopped McCain’s progress. This is contrary to Obama’s lies that McCain did nothing. If McCain wasn’t stopped in congress in 2005, Latinos would be in a better home buying posision today. Obama can’t see whats good for America. MCCain and Palin can.
Posted by: AfAmforMcCainPalin | September 17, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Your article was very accurate. Thank you for publishing it.
Posted by: john | September 17, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
The only thing worse than smear campaigns is the people who defend them.
How childish and scurulous you must be to resort to “Well they did it first!” “Nuh uh, you did!” name calling.
Anyone defending the lying ads of either side needs to grow up. This is how politics is played, but defending it is childish, disingenuous, and highly hypocritical. I’m sure any of you complain about the ads thrown at your own candidate but you insist on the fairness when directed the opposite way.
You are all suffering from cognitive disonance.
Posted by: Mathew | September 17, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
McCain belongs to a party that uses divide and rule to the hilt. They scare us with gay marriage, immigrant hordes pouring over our borders, and the weight of social programs dragging our country down. Nothing could be farther from the true state of affairs. These unscrupulous people have sold our country to the richest patrons. While they do their paymasters bidding they keep us occupied with trivial nonsense.
Posted by: worldsam | September 17, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Look, as an anti-illegal immigration person, who is voting for McCain IN SPITE of his immigraton stance, this is laughable. Everyone knows McCain leans toward amnesty. Sen Obama should first apologize for the unfair comments, and second, he should realize that only citizens vote. Whoops, I forgot, he hails from Chicago, where the dead vote multiple times.
Posted by: tt | September 17, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Obama is really running scared! Once he decides to use lies and smears he is illustrating to the American people that he has nothing else to offer – nothing. This clown is also using race more and more every day. I hope the Liberals are happy with this package – to me it stinks.
Remember you reap what you sow.
Posted by: Bud | September 17, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
When Barack started slipping in the polls he abandoned his high level discourse and warned the world, “They have no idea who they are dealing with.” He was right. Now those, especially independents like me who were swept up in this reincarnation of JFK, are lost in our hope. There are not words in the language that haven’t been used over and over to describe how disappointed I feel. Barack is not the man I thought he was. I’m going to turn of the TV, close the paper, click off the internet and stay home on election day.
Posted by: Larry Lawrence | September 17, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
This is a new low for Obama.
Posted by: Ernesto B | September 17, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Obama is the biggest sleaze bag I have ever seen.
This man and his cronies, who just hacked into a private citizen’s email account (a fellony) are a disgrace.
Where’s the hope? The biggest fraud this country has ever seen!
And I’ll tell you what, as an independent I could have voted for Hillary (I actually voted for her husband), but I will never, EVER, vote for such a disgrace.
We don’t need sleaze balls like him in Washington.
Posted by: chaban | September 17, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
I can’t believe you liberals. Go ahead and support the liberal,socialist position of Obama.
Limbaugh and McCain, the bad guys? Limbaugh is a radio guy. What concerns me is all politicans. What has Obama or McCain done for our country as elected officals? Nothing,zero.
The hope and desire to elect a president that is black is not a good cause. He has alot of sizzle and no beef. Change is his theme but where are the details. Mmmmmmm, the hand is quicker than the eye.
If you like liberal and socialist, vote Obama.
The morons here are all voters that continue to vote for all the clowns that attempt to fool us into thinking that they are watching out for our best interests.
Think about it.
Posted by: Morons - Them, Us or U | September 17, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Sen. Obama is dangerously playing the race card. His tactics are divisive and disappointing. Senator, no scratch that, Obama is looking more and more mean and dangerous to this black man. Admittedly, I am sad to see Obama go this route and I fear the friction it will create amongst the innocent. Especially the children. Spanish speaking children will likely hear this ad and become confused, too.
If this strategy persists, watch the respect people have for Obama dissipate.
Posted by: Jeffrey E. Savage | September 17, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
THE REVIEWER OF THE ADD NEGLECTED TO CONSIDER THE KEY WORDING OF “MCCAIN AND HIS FRIENDS”.
DESPITE LIMBAUGH AND MCCAIN BEING RIVALS OR ENEMIES MOST OF THE TIME, LIMBAUGH IS MOST CERTAINLY MCCAIN’S ALLY -NOW-.
BY NOT REPUDIATING LIMBAUGH, PERHAPS AS AN “AGENT OF INTOLERENCE”, AS MCCAIN OF 2000 SAID OF SOME IN THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT, MCCAIN HAS IMPLICITLY EMBRACED HIS VIEWS.
RUSH IS FAR TOO VOCAL AND FAR TOO ASSOCIATED WITH THE REPUBLICAN BASE FOR MCCAIN TO NOT BE ASSOCIATED WITH HIM AND HIS SENTIMENTS ONCE MCCAIN BECOMES THE GOP’S NOMINEE.
HE NOW CARRIES THOSE VIEWS ON -HIS- PLATFORM.
LETS BE REAL, HERE, TAPPER. YOU DONT NEED TO CALL THEM LIARS THE SAME AMOUNT TO BE UNBIASED, PARTICULARLY IF ONE IS LYING FAR MORE THAN THE OTHER.
(see: “True Whoppers”, in WashPost)
Posted by: Papo Jones | September 17, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
This is a classic Obama smear.
Let me see if I have it straight: Obama may or may not be a US citizen; he’s mislead us about his time out of the US; he angrily attacks people who legitimately question his politics; he’s lost without a TelePrompTer; he’s going to tax us out of all of our problems; his past includes Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger and Tony Rezko. He comes straight out of the Daley Machine. His minions tried twice to silence guests critical of him on Milt Rosenberg’s WGN radio show. Now they’re making stuff up about Limbaugh.
Why does anyone take Obama seriously in the first place?
Posted by: James | September 17, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
EXCELLENT! I didn’t think the Dems had it in them, but afterall, we are the party of Clinton. Sleaze is thy middle name. In the immortal words of George Lopez (channelling Tony Montana) in “Balls of Fury”… “So you wanna play rough eh? HOKAY…” GO OBAMA. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
Posted by: TRUEBLUEPatriot | September 17, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
So what if it is false? I’ll decide that.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I don’t believe he is defending Limbaugh, he simply stated the fact that the statements were taken out of context. You don’t just get to pull out words or phrases and claim that’s all there is…well those of us in the real world don’t. They did the same thing to Carly yesterday, cut off her statement and pretended that’s all she said. Desperation really stinks. Personally where I live I am sick to death of seeing sleazy mud slinging vote for Obama commericials every commercial break. Yet he calls it “change”…sounds like dirty Chicago politics as usual to me.
Posted by: samhiguchi | September 17, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Obama has no shame. He’s a smear artist who goes out of his way to avoid details on his ambiguous plans that promise something for everybody.
A slime ball? Yeah, a slime ball.
Posted by: dl | September 17, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Obama bin Lyin’… this time in Spanish!
Now, what did he know about Ayers, and when did he know it?
Posted by: Lonw1 | September 17, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Trying to link McCain to Rush just shows how uninformed the Obama campaign is. Rush loves Palin, but McCain – not so much. I won’t even argue that the statements are very much out of context – they are, but that’s no surprise. I love the smell of desperate lefties in the evening.
Posted by: Joanne600 | September 17, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Obama is justified in making the point that John McCain has gone back and forth telling people he was in favor of ‘comprehensive immigration reform’, then saying to a different group he would not vote for HIS OWN BILL in its current form.
Why can’t John McCain pick a position on immigration ‘reform’ and defend it???
Posted by: John | September 17, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Okay, Jake, since you won’t say the word in english or in spanish I will. The Obama camp is LYING.
Posted by: mak | September 17, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
SoWhat…if they don’t like one another? Unfair? Doesn’t make it false. Calling out a racist is not racist. It’s justice.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Thank you for clarifying the truth, even if you’re not a fan of Limbaugh. I can’t stand the guy but I hate when people have their words twisted. This is beyond the pale and will come back to bite Obama. What happened to “hope” and “change”? That was why I supported you in the primary, Obama. But you are clearly just another sleazy Chicago machine politician. You’ve lost my vote and hopefully the majority of my traditionally blue state.
Posted by: Alice P. | September 17, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Obama fights like the old Chicago Dems like DaleyI. But mayor Richard J. accomplished things. Barack just fights untruthfully. This Obama viter in the primary is working FULL TIME for McCain
Posted by: jeff | September 17, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Obama says he is above the “fray.” You know Obama, you can put lipstick on a pig…
Posted by: Kyle | September 17, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
The Obama campaign desperation is palpable. Lying about the opponent is one thing, but lying about Rush Limbaugh smacks of total fear of losing.
Is Hillary 2012 running the Obama campaign?
Posted by: Kurt Lukens | September 17, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
So, the same Obamabots who scream so shrilly when McCain is accused of lying (even if he really told the truth)are now telling Obama to go ahead and lie if that’s what it takes to win. Apparently, they think he can’t win without lying. I agree with them. I also think he can’t win even though he does lie.
Posted by: Buford Gooch | September 17, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
anti immigrant does not necessarily mean illegal immigrant. Get your mind out of the gutter.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Nice to see that our “Change” candidate and his campaign’s only real platform brings more of the same.
Some high road. This type of “integrity” in an election we used to attribute to the likes of the Karl Rove.
As a Democrat I’d like to think that we have more to offer than just typical mindless mudslinging, but I guess if that what you have, you use it.
It’s politics as usual in 2008.
Posted by: jbrown | September 17, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Thanks for setting it straight, ABC. I guess the claims of bias are not so stark.
Posted by: Lars Olivson | September 17, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Anyone with any sense knows Rush Limbaugh and John McCain don’t get along as George Bush and Jihn McCain don’t get along. The American people are not stupid Barack Obama but apparently you are.
Posted by: Virginia Womyn | September 17, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
As a hispaninc female, I am disappointed in Obama for using this crap to get political points. I am insulted. It is Obama who is tryign to insult us by distorting the words of others. Obama will nto only lose the hispanic vote, he will lose the GE in a landlside. We care about more issues than just immigration. We care about the economy, education, crime, taxes, jobs.
Barack Obama better start Ad buys in New York because I guarantee you , he will lose both NY and NJ.
Posted by: Truth08 | September 17, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Nice to see that our “Change” candidate and his campaign’s only real platform brings more of the same.
Some high road. This type of “integrity” in an election we used to attribute to the likes of the Karl Rove.
As a Democrat I’d like to think that we have more to offer than just typical mindless mudslinging, but I guess if that what you have, you use it.
It’s politics as usual in 2008.
Posted by: jbrown | September 17, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Nice to see that our “Change” candidate and his campaign’s only real platform brings more of the same.
Some high road. This type of “integrity” in an election we used to attribute to the likes of the Karl Rove.
As a Democrat I’d like to think that we have more to offer than just typical mindless mudslinging, but I guess if that what you have, you use it.
It’s politics as usual in 2008.
Posted by: jbrown | September 17, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Sheesh, for someone who is running for president by being above partisan politics, Obama has gone to the sewer. Of course, he never ran for an election on his capabilities, rather his history is to disqualify his competitors (Hugo Chavez anyone?).
Posted by: Captain America | September 17, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Nice to see that our “Change” candidate and his campaign’s only real platform brings more of the same.
Some high road. This type of “integrity” in an election we used to attribute to the likes of the Karl Rove.
As a Democrat I’d like to think that we have more to offer than just typical mindless mudslinging, but I guess if that what you have, you use it.
It’s politics as usual in 2008.
Posted by: jbrown | September 17, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Im I think Rush has gotten Sweet
on McBush in the last few weeks..
oh yea McBush said the Dems caused
the Banking Problems…. In a PIGS EYE..
McLame hands are all over the Banking
Probelms…… So how much Does The
United States Owe China Now?
OK that will Be ONE IRAQ WAR
and another Loan of 85 Billion
to Save your Banking ETC… Thankyou.
Come Again… You good Customer
pay bills on time…. LOL…
This just IN McBush said What Banking
PROBLEM?
Posted by: Anita Yova | September 17, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Oh, this is rich. Now, all of a sudden Jake Tapper is going out of his way to “fact check” Obama. I seem to have to missed you fact-checking John McCain when for the past 2 weeks he was busy releasing misleading (i.e. lying) ads one after the other.
In case you missed it, John McCain has been running a sleazy dishonest campaign. As such, the Obama camp has rightfully recognized that this is not the time to play nice with these republican cronies.
Posted by: neen | September 17, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
thank you for setting the record straight on this ad! It’s refreshing to see someone in the MSM pointing out when Obama is wrong.
Posted by: 2jdsindc | September 17, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
McCain should run ads linking Obama to Keith “the fascist” Olbermann.
Posted by: chaban | September 17, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Talk all you want about Obama and mccain, but when you go into the voting booth, you can leave political correctness at the door.
That is when the Obama camp’s fear of racism will rear it’s ugly head and Mccain will be the next president.
No amount of fancy speech or rhetoric can overcome an American voter desire to vote their conscience.
Is this a good omen for America? maybe not, but our country will be much better off because of it.
Posted by: john | September 17, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
The “change” Senator Obama wants to bring us is from sleazy Washington politics to even sleazier Chicago politics.
Posted by: Buford Gooch | September 17, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Good analysis of the ad. Thanks.
The ad is smart though, beyond just getting McCain back for his unfair Spanish-language ad. Think of the position it puts McCain in. Does he publicly act to denounce Limbaugh’s quotes and distance himself from a talk show host that most Republicans like more than they like McCain? Or does he just keep his mouth shut and take the hit? Pretty smart move, if you ask me.
Posted by: zigbert | September 17, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Obama sure takes the low road. He’s no change. The Clinton’s called him a “thug” and that’s just what he is.
Posted by: Patriot | September 17, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Excellent story pointing out the sleaziness of obama taking Rush’s words out of context and then running it in Spanish. I guess that is what happens when the former Fannie Mae CEO Mr.Raines is running your campaign (you know him, we just bailed them out at a cost of $200 BILLION). Nothing but lies and distortions…that is the entire basis of their campaign. This pathetic campaign is just an example of what their presidency will be. ‘That’s not change…that’s more of the same. obama is a pathetic little man!!
Posted by: sue | September 17, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Finally the HONEST media is back, after months and months of Obama pampering.
I’ve been highly critical of the mainstream media, but here is some real improvement and the author of this article deserves credit for his manifest intellectual honesty.
Posted by: unionjack | September 17, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Thank you Jake Tapper for showing that real, honest journalism still exists. This just illustrates yet another attempt by the Barack machine to link and destroy credibility. Limbaugh’s a funny guy and says a lot of true things, but he’s not running for President–so it’s like you say…it’s like linking Obama to Bill Maher in an attack ad. Thank you for your hard work!
Posted by: pklovestruth | September 17, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Obama thinks latinos must be stupid. John McCain was the only politician that risked his political life for us. He is our hero and we love him. You can take your ad and go home.
Posted by: Gaven Gonzales | September 17, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Dittoheads defend Rush from charges of racism by making racist comments.
Well there;s a reason they are called dittoheads.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
I don’t care what lie someone says about a GOP candidate. They can dish it out, but can’t take it. Whiners!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
you have somewhat of a point jt but when i read your rendition of the obama ad it seems like obama and his campaign advisors are just trying to dovetail john mccain as being a republican , and being a loyal republican he will vote lockstep with his party on the most important republican issues, flippy flopping as needed to appease on minor legislation but 100% hard lining on the “moral majorities’” (rof i still get a laff everytime i see or type that…)
main agenda.
MORAL MAJORITY …HAHAHAHA!!!
anyway, i digress…
the use of the word “they” several times in rapid succession and then shortly thereafter “John McCain and his Republican friends etc…” makes it pretty easy for me to “get” what the obama campaign was trying to say.
to sum,in a nutshell jake, what they meant was…the republicans (in general) think mexicans ,minorites of all kinds ,illegal or whatever are a buy and sell/use when needed then toss commodity ,they can use for personal and business gain as they see fit ,but the first day these minorities become a real liability the gop will throw them right under the bus with mama. losers.
but, thats what they meant jake, glad to clarify for ya.
i WILL allow that the second rush l. quote is pretty dastardly and out of context most definitely ,but in this case , this election ,it is understandable even if somewhat disagreeable.
Posted by: bah | September 17, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Give me a break. ABC is putting an attempt to be balanced above the need to teall the truth.
This is an Obama counterpunch that McCain deserves.
Remember Operation Chaos? Rush is clearly McCain’s buddy – especially as compared to Obam who is cleary Rush’s enemy.
Lousy journalists become “balanced reporting” apologists when they are just not able to do a good job reporting the truth –which is that McCain has run a sleazy campaign period.
Posted by: Doug M | September 17, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
First, I’m more than an occasional listener to Limbaugh; I listen almost every day. Reading this article makes me wonder if you’ve listened since the primaries!?
To write that Limbaugh is McCain’s nemesis is just false. Limbaugh uses his show to push Palin/McCain every single day.
As for McCain’s stance on comprehensive immigration reform, he put politics over principle and bailed out of the fight when it looked like it might cost him some votes in the primary.
Talk is cheap and the bottom line is: McCain said he wouldn’t vote for his own immigration bill. So, I think Obama is correct to say that he has two faces.
Posted by: Nate | September 17, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Rush isn’t politically correct, so people who are will be offended. We’re to believe that there aren’t any stupid Mexicans? Are we that wimpy?
The point he was making is clear, we don’t need unskilled immigrants do our unskilled work. I like Ann Coulter’s take better. She says our poor education system will ensure we have plenty of unskilled people to do our unskilled jobs.
A lot of people don’t pay attention and don’t realize how dangerous the Left is, so they don’t get Rush’s satire. I know how dangerous the Left is and find Rush to be very tame.
God bless ya Ruah!
Posted by: kirk | September 17, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Obama is a liar. What about the McCain-Kennedy Immigration Bill??? McCain got in trouble with his own party over that. And Obama is using the race card AGAIN. At least he was dumb enough to use it against someone who will finally call him out on it. It’s disgusting.
Posted by: ExDem | September 17, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Apparently Obama thinks the Latino community can be fooled and coerced into voting for him. If you don’t like me on the issues then vote for me because the other guy says your dumb. Nice! I knew Obama wasn’t for change when he picked Biden…36 years in Washington!
Posted by: Rob | September 17, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
latinovib is right, if your not a liberal, obama could care less about you, why do you think he never reached to the middle to actually create a record of reform, he does’nt care, only about liberal view’s, not people!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Deregulation is the problem with business and our economy. All business to go on with no oversight and there you have it, the Financial institutions and Banks do as they please with wall street speculations. The U S American economy continues to worsen. But still Deregulation remains. Which candidate is pro Deregulating the financial corporations? It was John McCain who wrote those letters tell BANK REGULATORS to leave his friend alone. His friend owned a SAVINGS AND LOAN which went bellyup and got bailed out by Bush Sr. with billions of Taxpayers money. Yep, John McCain, the Deregulating financial institutions friend.
Posted by: mere | September 17, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
You better be worried about your dam(^n jobs.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Timmaaa7 – I agree with you regarding immigration.
I choose to vote for Barrack Obama because his views most closely represent my views. I agree on the direction in which he has conveyed that he will lead this country.
The rest of this is just noise. Vote for whomever you most closely align with and I will do the same, the majority win out.
Now, as for the rest of you, start discussing issues like Timmaaa7, at least he has a point.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Chipo1965 | September 17, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
I’m disappointed to see Obama use these techniques. He promised to be above partisan politics, but this is worse than mudslinging. This is fear-mongering. He is telling Hispanics they should be afraid to vote for McCain because he will have their loved ones deported.
Shame on Obama for using these tactics.
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Kirk I don’t know. Ask Jake. The GOP wants to borrow Mexican labor as long as they go home at night.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Speaking of tough talk on illegals – listen to Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid (in regards to his own immigration refom bill in 1993):
“Safeguards like welfare and free medical care are in place to boost Americans in need of short-term assistance. These programs were not meant to entice freeloaders and scam artists from around the world.”
“Americans have seen heinous crimes committed by individuals who are here illegally.”
“Recent terrorist acts, including the World Trade Center bombing, have underscored the need to keep violent criminals out of the country.”
His 1993 bill also aimed, he said, to “change asylum laws to prevent phony asylum seekers.”
Reid said, at the time, the U.S. open-door policy was being “abused at the expense of honest, working citizens.”
His “Immigration Stabilization Act of 1993,” he said, “overhauls the nation’s immigration laws and calls for a massive scale-down of immigrants allowed into the country from approximately 800,000 to 300,000.”
– well, Sen. Reid, it’s only gotten worse – let’s put your bill back on the floor for a vote!
Posted by: for parity | September 17, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
LMAO, with all the recent LIES McBush has been caught in, surely no one is really taking him seriously any more. I mean really, how could anyone with a single brain cell trust a proven LIAR? Think about it.
Posted by: Jester Lewis | September 17, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Kirk, there ARE a lot of stupid people out there who buy into this stuff. That’s the problem.
Posted by: BitterClinger | September 17, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
it’s so unfair! how can he tie the politician to his party’s policies – he’s a maverick? how can we question an unknown running mate – she’s a woman!
anyone who thinks this is race needs to re-examine their own terminology. think of it as a “culture war”. this culture speaks spanish. it’s not racist to speak another language in a multi-lingual country. the racism is in wanting to make them second class citizens or prevent them from becoming citizens at all
Posted by: unfair | September 17, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
I am stating for the record once again that Barack Obama does not have the courage to go Mano O Mano against John McCain.
Obama uses a third party almost all of the time in unfairly attacking McCain. He has attempted to tie Senator McCain with All of President Bush’s policies time after time since day one, insinuating that McCain is not his own man. Since this tactic has gotten old and is just not working any longer he now uses Rush Limbaugh, attempting the same thing.
This time however he goes way too far and we hear Obama throwing salvos that are plain untruths, particularly on the immigration issue and Latinos in particular. I see a desperate Obama campaign falling apart at the seams. Pathetic really.
“Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive”
Posted by: Al MacLeod | September 17, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Breathtaking sleazy. Al the more important that immigrants learn English so they can’t be lied to, used and abused by hucksters like Obama. I fear for our country.
Posted by: mason | September 17, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
The quotes are fake…but accurate!
Posted by: Larry | September 17, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
The Obama Campaign is always hiding behind the RACE CARD to cover up the shortcomings of the candidate himself. Obama is largely unknown, untested, and woefully inexperienced, and not all qualified to be president of the USA. Moreover his platform is ultra liberal advocating big government socialist solutions for a free market society. He already played the race card against his own Democratic members – Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Geraldine Ferraro. But it won’t work this time for the American people will not be bullied, shamed, or tricked into electing an unqualified person to the presidency.
Posted by: Phil Lee | September 17, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Even Obama wants to shut down the border.
Posted by: David Veracity | September 17, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Guest worker…aka free labor. Ask them why they just don’t give them citizenship. OOOO …OOOO …ooo…I know. They don’t want you here. Here’s a tissue…stop whining. That’s why America is broke. They blame the media because they can’t resist coercion from ads. Grow.up Yes – the message is a lil twisted. ANd?!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
chipo1965 – you may not agree with who i’m voting for, but you do show the true American spirit. GOD bless! McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Jester Lewis
you are right. we cant trust Obama, a Proven Liar from this article. Mark my words, all this is helping McCaon/Palin, and I will be joyous when they win!!
Posted by: michael | September 17, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Is “guilt by association” fair game now? Quote (or as here, willfully misquote) a commentator and blame a candidate? Does the Obama campaign REALLY want to go down that path??
Posted by: redram | September 17, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
As a American from Mexico, I don’t buy into B.O.’s ad. I came to this country to work and I don’t need any government handout. I actually took the time to read house/senate legislation and know that the democrats like to vote for everything against minorities and then come election time, feed us lies. Republicans have done more for my “legalized” citizens than democrats, but the democrats feed on the ignorant.
Laboral Americanos voto republicana!
Posted by: LatinJoe | September 17, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
I can’t believe the Obama campaign ran this ad. I am a Democrat and a huge believer in candidates running ads in Spanish and, in those ads, addressing issues important to Latinos. These issues include immigration issues, but are certainly not limited to immigration issues. Moreover, there is a variety of opinions among the American latino population on what should be done about our current immigration laws. I think that what most are upset about is a lack of progress, much like the non-Latinos of the country. This ad says nothing about what Obama will do to loosen the gridlock on immigration reform, says nothing about what kind of reform he wants, and attacks the one man among Republicans who, though he has backtracked a little during campaign season, has pushed for immigration reform. I believe that Obama would probably more willing to make immigration reform happen, but that doesn’t mean you can totally discount what McCain tried to do with the Kennedy-McCain legislation. I don’t know, but I would think that this ad would be offensive to many Latinos as it oversimplifies and offers no solutions. I think someone earlier said that it talks down to an entire population by assuming they don’t know who McCain is on this subject. And furthermore, I am not voting for the man, but I don’t think that racism is among John McCain’s faults, so to make such an accusation is offensive to him and to the targeted audience. It is this kind of campaigning that just might get McCain to the White House. I hope there are some changes in the Obama camp.
Posted by: Samantha | September 17, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
They both lie, how is it that there is still ample surprise when politicians act like politicians?
At this point I could care less about the gossip. The election can’t come soon enough!
P.S.: “I’d rather be wrong about Obama then right about McCain.”
Posted by: Tim Lang | September 17, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
mason – really? teach them english so they can’t be fooled in another language? do you think english is a language of truth? between bush’s isms and mccain’s lies, the language is almost dead
Posted by: unfair | September 17, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
bah-
McCain helped sponsor a bill to solve the problem of illegal immigration and when it was killed he found out what the major stumbling block was and focused on correcting that problem. What has Obama done about the issue?
Obama has never written any major legislation on anything. He’s too busy writing his memoirs.
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Hmmm… a candidate who uses race to incite the people and thugs to silence his critics. Who does that remind you of?
Posted by: FDR | September 17, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Are you kidding me???
Nada de erroneo! Apparently you don’t speak Spanish, because the ad links to McCain is mentioning him as a friend of McCain’s. Limbaugh and McCain are no longer in disagreement after McCain sold himself out for his party’s base; that includes Rush Limbaugh.
Posted by: medstud | September 17, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
I see you GOP folks don’t want to concentrate on the economy either. I do understand.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Look at the howls from the right wing as their hero Rush gets hoisted on his racist petard!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
I may have found the only journalist from the main stream media willing to be an unbiased journalist. Can you please look into the NY post report (by Amir Taheri) that alleges Obama tried to stall the Iraq GI withdrawal? The election is coming up quick, and I need to make an informed decision, but it is difficult to get unbiased coverage of Obama.
Thank you
Posted by: Me | September 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Jester Lewis
you are right. we cant trust Obama, a Proven Liar from this article. Mark my words, all this is helping McCaon/Palin, and I will be joyous when they win!!
Posted by: michael | September 17, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Actually, the Spanish word is not “erroneo”. It is not simply an “error”. The correct word would be “mentiro” or “mentira” — no idea if it’s supposed to be masculine or feminine. But the point is that this article describes a series of flat-out LIES from the Obama camp. And since Obama approved the message, that makes HIM a liar, too.
Posted by: Brenda | September 17, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Sure Redram. Let’s go down the economy road and the family values road too.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Please, Por el amor del Dios, do not elect this man (Obama) as President. He is a liar and a cheat. Look at the sleazy dishonorable campaign he is running. Bad form. Bad idea.
Posted by: drudgeaddict | September 17, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Wow. Just wow. Snagged trying to twist the words of Rush and McCain. By ABC no less!!! Good job ABC. If you keep this up you might become relevant again! (I really didn’t mean that to be as harsh as it sounded. Really, good job)
Posted by: Bruce | September 17, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
McCain tried to work with Kennedy on immigration reform which included a guest worker program (some call it amnesty). Then, like a good politician should, he listened to the people of this country when they complained and let it be known this is not what the people want. Now, because he listened to us, he’s labeled a flip-flopper.
Posted by: Cimarron | September 17, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
gotta love all these high-minded barack devotees who are now snarling and calling for winning ‘by any means necessary.’ speaks volumes about the emptiness of their candidate and his campaign. what happened to all that hope and change and unity malarkey?? looks like an old-fashioned power grab to me. thanks, abc, for finally starting to expose this charade.
Posted by: el polacko | September 17, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Wow! Another breath of fresh air in this campaign since the arrival of Palin…a fair and balanced accessment from ABC news…credit where credit is due…thank you Jake Tapper, muy bien!
And for the uninitiated and uninformed ‘anti-racists’ here…since when is it racist to demand enforcement of current immigration laws. Come here legally, or stay out! Come here illegally, get out!
Posted by: Don | September 17, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
This is especially funny considering how much Rush has bashed McCain over the years. Remember the primaries of 2000? Rush beat the crap out of McCain with everthing he could find. Rush pounded McCain when he supported the immigration reform bill. Any fair minded informed person would know that Rush can’t stand McCain and they don’t share values. The only reason he isn’t poking him in the eye with a stick right now is because Limbo can’t stand Obama and Old Johnny War Hero is the only name on the ticket with an R next to it standing between him and four years of the looney left in the White House.
Posted by: Rob | September 17, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
How many of you folks are crying on your keyboards? Stop that! Bunch of wimps!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
sue – thank you for bringing facts to this room with your post! we need more American citizens from the southern boarders to speak to understand what is really going on and how to fix it and who is better for the job. GOD bless. McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Jake, you have my respect. I left ABC behind years ago but maybe I’ll give it a second look now. At least, I’ll be coming back to your blog.
Posted by: linda | September 17, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I thought Barack Obama was a different kind of politician who was going to stay out of the gutter. I thought he wanted to bring hope and change and unite the country. What a fraud!
He’s nothing more than a creation of the dirty Chicago political machine. He does as he’s told. He’s never stood up to any special interest in his party, reached across the aisle on any significant legislation, or achieved anything of importance–other than publishing two autobiographies before the age of 50. Who does that?
Compare and contrast with McCain and Palin. They rose to prominence by attacking waste and corruption. McCain has repeatedly reached across the aisle to work with Democrats. Though not in office long, Gov. Palin has been an effective governor and is wildly popular in Alaska–drawing the support of many Democrats.
Vote Reform. Vote McCain-Palin.
Posted by: richard | September 17, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
after all the constant smear ads and lies from McCain, he’s finally getting a taste of his own medicine. Sad that it’s come to this I guess, but I don’t think Obama has much choice but to sling it back.. compared to the McCain ad accusing Obama of advocating “comprehensive sex education to kindergartners before they learn to read” this is NOTHING.
Posted by: simpleburn | September 17, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
I am absolutely DUMBFOUNDED that ABC got this right when they could have just as easily ignored it, kudos for actually checking facts for a change!
Posted by: jrstudio | September 17, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Earl , maybe so but what KIND of bill? he would not vote for the amendments to one of the latest bills because IT ACTUALLY WAS REAL LEGISLATION , NOT A REPUBLICAN FLUFF SMOKE AND MIRRORS WASTE OF PAPER (like most republican sham bills ,ie: made to fool the gullible ignorant american voter)
they are darned good at it too , i will give the republicans that. masters of the art of deception are the republicans ,no doubt.
remember this one …
” I AM NOT A CRIMINAL…”
lmao
Posted by: bah | September 17, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
More outright lies from a desperate, and failing Obama.
Posted by: One_American | September 17, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
screw mccain! Even Rove says his ads do not pass the truth test. this isn’t even close Stop your whining! mavericks aren’t supposed to whine. If you fall for any of the untruths in any of the ads…you are the fool.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Obama is panicking and listening to his handlers. Just recently he claimed he wanted to run on the issues. Has he run out of issues that he can take a popular stand on? So much for hope and change.
Posted by: richard | September 17, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Thanks Barack, This is a real message of hope that you promised>>You just lost my vote!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Tony | September 17, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
THE ONLY CHANGE OBAMA IS FOR IS HIMSELF, I think this is his coming out party
Posted by: rickstanton | September 17, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
boo hoo Richard! He’s been talking about issues…the GOP has been hiding…choosing and picking when they are available. Stop the hiding and whining.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Over the top race-baiting! More of the same from the candidate who promised a breath of fresh air to a country longing for something different in politics as usual, who was going to run a campaign above all that.
If Obama loses, we all know that the hard line stance will be that the country was not ready for the first black African-American president. Nothing will stick to the actual man running, only his race. His credentials don’t count, just his race. When the polls were up and reflecting McCain’s convention/Palin bounce, the volume on the Obama camp’s cries of racism was turned up to match. No matter the outrageous sexism sent Hillary’s way and now Sarah Palin, no matter the outrageous ageism sent McCain’s way. It’s all racism, all the time.
Posted by: Tracy Lynn | September 17, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
This so called “fact checking” is outdated. Maybe is no longer in disagreement with Limbaugh when it comes to immigration. Another thing… how the hell is Limbaugh being taken out of context when Limbaugh DID in fact use those very words???
Posted by: medstud | September 17, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Ryan C:
I have never heard Rush differentiate illegal immigrants by race or country of origin. An illegal immigrant simply didn’t follow our laws coming into the country, period. It doesn’t matter what that person’s country of origin is. The reason Hispanic illegal immigrants get so much attention is because they have a much higher profile, especially when they hold demonstrations and hold Mexican flags.
Those of us who are anti-ILLEGAL immigration are NOT anti-immigration. We just want people to follow the laws when coming into our country. It’s a national security issue. It’s an issue with the extra load that is put on our hospitals and our social services. It’s an issue with a neighboring country that has very strict immigration laws, and yet sees nothing wrong with dumping the people THEY don’t want on our country, rather than doing whatever they can to create jobs for them in Mexico. And then they have the nerve to complain when we try to control the influx. THEY have a right to control who comes into their country, but we DON’T??
Ryan C, it’s a complex issue, and you don’t put yourself in a very good light when you accuse those of us who are anti-ILLEGAL immigration of being racist. I, for one, will not be guilt-tripped into falling in line with your views.
Posted by: Brenda | September 17, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
this is funny! this reminds me the movie “Harold and Kumar escape from Guantanamo bay” there are more issues within the Hispanic community than immigration. the Obamaoers are not connected with the Hispanic Community.
Posted by: henri | September 17, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Bunch of hypocritical losers. Like you really care about the other half of America. It might help your argument if you let them into your convention next time!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
“Ryan C, it’s a complex issue, and you don’t put yourself in a very good light when you accuse those of us who are anti-ILLEGAL immigration of being racist”
Brenda,
Have you seen the comments on this thread.
If anti-immigration people don’t want to be viewed as racist they should start getting the racists out of their movement.
Not a single one of you said anything about the comments.
Instead you got upset when I did.
Telling.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Once again Jake Tapper has shown he is almost unique in the whole of MSM by actually taking a critical view of anything that Obama says or does.
Will wonders never cease.
Posted by: ConceptJunkie | September 17, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
This article is too good to be true… Is the liberal media really being fair this time? Anyway, being anti-illegal is not the same as being anti-latino. Being illegal is WRONG regardless where you come from and taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for their education, health and translated services… No mas!
Posted by: Pat | September 17, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I love when racicts freak out when you call them on it!
They get all angry and then spout even more racist crap!
Its hilarious!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Jake…they love you! This week.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Careful Jake,
Your fair and balanced reporting could get you kicked out of the MSM…You better drink some more kool-aid.
Posted by: lakeorionmom | September 17, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
medstud:
That IS the definition of taking someone out of context. You use that person’s words, but you select those words in such a way that their meaning is changed.
For the sake of brevity, let’s use the example of Rush saying “shut up and get out”. In the true context of what he was saying, he was setting up a hypotheical situation, and finally revealing that this was actual Mexican immigration law, and this is the way that THEY handle immigration. Obama’s ad makes it sound like Rush was actually telling Mexican immigrants to shut up and get out. THAT is why Obama’s ad is misleading, and actually is a LIE.
Of course you are probably someone who doesn’t actually listen to Rush, so you probably don’t understand that the man is not a racist. You probably depend on agenda-driven sites like MediaMatters, which regularly take Rush Limbaugh and other conservative talk radio hosts out of context in an attempt to discredit them and sway public opinion.
Posted by: Brenda | September 17, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
And the same for GOP folks. Their politicians can just keep abusing children and what do you know?; they still vote for them. All that praying and preaching…and all the sin that follows. Hypocrites!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Good on you, Jake Tapper. Well done. Watch out, your fairness is causing you to get a good reputation.
Posted by: Karen near Seattle | September 17, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
I assume the Washington Post and New York Times will have front-page articles out on Obama’s distortions tomorrow, just as they did with the lipstick-on-a-pig and sex ed ads of McCain.
Posted by: Steve | September 17, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
You will be lucky if this is in the National Enquirer.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
WHAT WILL JOYCE AND BARBARA WALTERS SAY TO THAT???
Posted by: John | September 17, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Front page? You meant the ECONOMY right? I know it’s difficult to talk about the REAL issues.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Last week the MSM headlines screamed how McCain was being “sleazy” for attacking Obamba.
Anyone else notice the THUNDERING SILENCE from the MSM on these vicious smears and lies from Obama?
Posted by: BradG | September 17, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Obama is wrong. There you go. Next!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
What?????? Obama would lie????? I’m shocked, I tell you…shocked!!!!
Posted by: davenjan | September 17, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
the obama marketing/sales team in their greed for more fees is attempting to push an untested, unreliable and inexperiences freshamn senator on the public as president.
while mccain is not a great choice obama with his cronuies from fannie mae is much worse.
Posted by: deroy | September 17, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Ryan C:
Once again, we are NOT anti-immigration. If someone comes into the country LEGALLY, they are more than welcome. My issue is with those who flout our laws and come into this country ILLEGALLY, and then have the nerve to make demands on our resources like they’re entitled to them.
On a smaller scale, it’s like someone breaking into your house, camping out on the sofa with your remote, eating your food and using your stuff and refusing to leave — and acting like they have a right to be there.
Posted by: Brenda | September 17, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Hey medstud
“Context” con= ‘with’ text=’text; the surrounding text’. Taking something out of context means neglecting the overrarching meaning which can only be gleaned by reading the whole piece.
Posted by: Mr X | September 17, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
I’m an Obama supporter. But I don’t like distortions. Stick to the truth – both sides – and it will be a fair fight.
Posted by: beap | September 17, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
“On a smaller scale, it’s like someone breaking into your house, camping out on the sofa with your remote, eating your food and using your stuff and refusing to leave — and acting like they have a right to be there.”
Actually its more like we invited them to come paint our fence for pennies on the dollar while we keep them in the shed out back hoping no one will notice the fence got painted.
The same was said of the Irish.
And the same was said of the Italians.
We are a nation of immigrants.
End of story.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
I’m impressed. ABC does actually have a reporter who can cover both sides of an issue…and who does research.
Posted by: Jason | September 17, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Like any good flim-flam man, Obama calls McCain’s campaign “sleazy and dishonorable,” while at the same time engaged in much worse behavior itself.
Dos Caras is right!
He insults the Spanish-speaking population by suggesting the people are so stupid they will not see through his stunts.
Posted by: GM | September 17, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
I am a Latino myself. I, my family, friends, and everyone that I know are voting for Obama. We are tired of the Bush/Republican BS. By the way, that Spanish ad by McCain was horrible. Does he think that we only watch Univision and are not awarded of what’s going on in this country? Shame on you McShame.
Posted by: Latino | September 17, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Its Hard Ball time. Obama endured your nonsense for 4 months. Get used to it!
Posted by: Wally | September 17, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
First off, who knows what McCain’s position is on anything? He flip-flops on every stand he has ever taken. Including backing away from the Immigration bill he sponsored. I think the only lie Obama told was that John McCain ONLY has 2 faces.
As far as taking Rush’s hate filled rants out of context. Give me a break.
This race is over. John “The Fundamentals are Fine” McCain put the final nail in the coffin when he spoke these words on Black Tuesday (for like the 22nd time!).
Posted by: slycat | September 17, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
I can understand Mexicans coming to America. Minimum wage last time I checked (a long time ago btw) was 5 dollars a day. Even if they are paid 3 dollars an hour under the table they still make 4-5 times as much as in Mexico…The government is super corrupt there and if I were them I would do the same thing, especially if I had a family.
If we paid Americans to do the work they do on farms, food prices would triple overnight probably.
Posted by: Timbo | September 17, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Tying McCain to Limbaugh may be unfair, but it’s NOT a “factual problem,” as you assert.
Posted by: obriann | September 17, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
I’m really impressed. Someone from the drive-by media actually implementing responsible journalism.
Posted by: Bobby Filet | September 17, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
As he steered his Straight Talk Express across the United States in recent weeks, Republican Sen. John McCain has tried to stay a-head of the immigration issue.
But Friday the immigration issue delivered 36 or so heads to his Phoenix office — heads of lettuce, that is.
McCain has been getting skewered in the media for comments earlier this month to a union group in Washington, D.C., that immigrants are taking jobs no one else wants, and offered them $50 an hour to pick lettuce in the Arizona sun for a summer, suggesting they couldn’t do it.
The senator didn’t stick around long enough to process any applications, despite several offers to take him up on his offer from the audience.
So Friday more than three dozen demonstrators showed up at his office, many carrying lettuce picker applications in one hand, and a head of lettuce in the other to show they could do the job.
Posted by: McCain thinks Americans are lazy | September 17, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
You’re wrong. Limbaugh was very strongly pro-NAFTA.
Posted by: Paul | September 17, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
“Sure, McCain “voted with Bush” 90% of the time.”
Brenda,
That line comes from McCain himself.
Are you saying he is lying?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Add me to the list of those that are dumbfounded that ABC has bothered to point out the facts in this case. Good job! More truth telling is in order! If ABC always were this conscientious they would be more respected. Keep it up!
Posted by: Jack | September 17, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Thanks Mr. Tapper for a fair and balanced report. However, I don’t expect the Obama folks to stop the outlandish deceit–that’s what weak, unprincipled people do when they are panicked.
Posted by: Maddie | September 17, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
@Timbo – ¡Ganastes la loteria! (You won the lottery!)
Dead-on with that comment. His ad is insulting to any self-respecting Hispanic.
Posted by: Josue | September 17, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
I am a Mexican American and I am voting for McCain he is a real patriot, and Obama has socialist ideas.
Posted by: JAV | September 17, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
We ARE a nation of immigrants — LEGAL immigrants!!
Is it really too much to ask for people to obey our laws and learn our language when they choose to make a life in our country?? The Irish, the Germans, the Italians for the most part came here legally. That’s all I ask.
Posted by: Brenda | September 17, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
@Erroneo? – Si, el uso de babelfish para traducir su titulo es un chiste en si mismo…pero, por lo menos hizo un esfuerzo, ¿no?
Posted by: Josue | September 17, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Obama is a slut; that’s all there is to it. He’s a disgusting POS.
Posted by: tanarg | September 17, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Thank you, Mr. Tapper. That was thorough and well-researched. And I agree with the many posters who point out that the Obama team has been similarly duplicitous throughout the campaign. They really think they can accuse McCain of being “sleazy,” run ads far sleazier than his, and be given a pass on it?
Posted by: moderate | September 17, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Gallup Poll from Sept 1st thru 7th show Obama’s Hispanic support at 60% vs 31% for McCain.
The Hispanic community knows who the racists are and what party they call home.
They saw McCain have to reject his own plan just to appease the racist in his party.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Ryan C: WRT McCain voting with Bush 90% of the time, no, I am not calling McCain a liar. I’m just saying that if you examine the majority of those votes, they’re for earth-shattering stuff like congratulating the Giants.
But the Left in this country wants to use that “statistic” to support their argument that McCain would give us a third Bush term, when the reality is that McCain and Bush were at cross purposes on a number of important issues, and McCain also angered the Republican base with his stance on those issues. To try to link McCain with Bush is disingenuous.
Posted by: Brenda | September 17, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
“WRT McCain voting with Bush 90% of the time, no, I am not calling McCain a liar. I’m just saying that if you examine the majority of those votes, they’re for earth-shattering stuff like congratulating the Giants.”
So what you are saying is that in a bid to inflate his conservative cred McCain took liberties with how close he was aligned with Bush during the primaries.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Heh…
looks like the Dems are all for the Patriot Act now and the GOP are them hippie’folk all against it. :P
Heh…politics aside,
Time to update the email password! That, in the end, is a really ugly thing to do. Good things never come about by doing evil ones.
Posted by: Timbo | September 17, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
RyanC, it is not surprising that the polls show that Hispanics overwhelmingly favor Obama…at this point. The Donks are good at pandering and buying votes. Once they get into office, they give minorities just enough to buy their votes again the next time…and then forget them. African-Americans overwhelmingly vote for Donks, forgetting that the Republican party gave us Lincoln, and that it was the Democrats who were largely against Civil Rights legislation in the 60′s. But what have the Donks done for African-Americans, really? They even had the opportunity to make Maynard Jackson, the former mayor of Atlanta, the DNC chair. He really wanted that position, and made no secret of it. Did they give that position to this high-profile African-American? Nope. They gave it to Terry McAuliffe, instead. More lip service, no follow-through. African-Americans are starting to wake up, though. Slowly, we’re starting to see more of them becoming conservative. The same will happen with Hispanics. We’re patient.
Posted by: Brenda | September 17, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
@Brenda: To put it simply, the people you referred to earlier learned the language, true; however, the socio-economic situation & politics at the time also made their presence pretty much a curiosity & a help more than “illegal”. There where no illegal immigrants prior to that because there where no immigration laws at all before to Ellis Island. Idaho was almost 25% Asian at one point and sure enough, they spoke Chinese / Japanese / etc. there.
In other words, you would have needed to learn the language there too ;)
Do Hispanics that immigrate here need to learn the language? Of course; we expect people to speak Spanish if they immigrate to one of our countries / nations / republics. The way people have been speaking about it, however, with such exasperation makes it seem as if we do not. True, the older generations might still prefer Spanish but my grandmother could hold her own quite well in English if she had to :)
Posted by: Josue | September 17, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
ryan c – aleast McCain can vote yes or no, unlike obama, PRESENT how many times.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
@Brenda – the polls showing that more Hispanics are voting for Obama are all fraudulent. They are calling predominantly democratic areas. I know of very few Hispanics, be it family, friends, or others, who are going to vote for Obama. Don’t worry about it! :D
Posted by: Josue | September 17, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Speaking of Chicago there is a never-ending law enforcement rumor that there is 500k in laundered cash buried in a heavily shrink wrapped package in that little strip of land that Rezko “gave” to the Obama’s. Rezko and Obama both know it’s there but they are so paranoid that the feds are watching that neither of them wants to take a chance at digging it up. They’re just gonna save it for a rainy day I guess.
Posted by: Ralph | September 17, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
RyanC: I honestly don’t know how often McCain “voted with Bush”. He is decidedly not my first choice as a candidate, but I don’t see him as a liar. If this was actually a quote from him, my semi-educated guess was that it was just his own rough estimate of how much he felt he was in line with the Republican base. And certainly, he wants to be elected, so I’m sure that this comment was an attempt to persuade the base that he had more in common with them than they thought, in light of the controversy surrounding McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, and the Gang of Fourteen, just to name a few.
Posted by: Brenda | September 17, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Erróneo! After all these years of Limbaugh, Tancredo, Delay, Cunningham, Hastert, and all the other racist Republican ripoff artists it is suddenly time to play fair when THEIR ox is the one getting gored? I don’t think so. Reap the whirlwind, Republicans.
Posted by: Smiling Bob | September 17, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
McCain and the republicans have never done anything for the hispanic community, even with bush’s failed immigration bill ,Limbaugh is a racist no doubt about it.
I support Obama 100% as I supported Clinton as I supported the amnesty in the 80′s. The same policies of Bush, the same kind of idealism, just look at the economy people, look at what these failed policies have brought.
Posted by: carlos garcia | September 17, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Jake I usually blast you for bias I see in your reporting. Important details that you leave out that are embarrasing to Obama. Nice to see you proving me wrong here. Keep up the good work and keep it balanced. Not 10 hit pieces on McCain and then 1 on Obama. Your due a couple more on Obama before you hit on McCain again.
Obama is playing the race-card which Democrats do so well. Never mind that it’s counter-productive and hurts US race relations in the long run. It’s all about power with those who use the card. Ultimately only a cynical racist at heart uses it regularly. Is Obama trending that way, or is the media just starting to wake up and notice it?
Posted by: freemort | September 17, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
McCain, Rush and all the rest of the Repubs are definitely sleazy and don’t give a hoot about the hispanic population other than for exploitation. I personally think the ad is terrific and it tells a big truth, the truth that you don’t like to talk about. So for all the stupid comments made above about the dishonesty of the ad, you know what you can do with them. The Hispanic community needs to know that Republicans don’t care about them nor want them in this country and this ad does it JUST RIGHT!!!! It hits HOME!!!!!! You will be surprised how it will move them, I happen to KNOW!!!!
Posted by: Proud | September 17, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Josue — points taken, thank you.
And I’m glad you’re here!
Posted by: Brenda | September 17, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Politics of hope?
HAHAHA
Posted by: John | September 17, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
I THOUGHT I SAW EVERY LIE ABOUT SAARAH PALIN POSSIBLE. BUT NOW THE PELOSI STYLE DEM’S HAVE OUTDONE ALL, AFTER I READ TONIGHT THAT GOVERNOR PALIN IS A SEXUAL PREDATOR OF TEENAGE BOYS, AND THAT HER AND MR PALIN ARE INVOLVED IN A BEASTIALITY SEX RING.
IF SHE WAS A DEMOCRAT THERE WOULD BE OUTRAGE, BUT SINCE SHE IS A REPULICAN, THE RUMOR WILL HEADLINE ON ALL THE MAIN NEWS STORIES TONIGHT. STAY TUNED!!!!!
Posted by: Bob | September 17, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
The ad represents the feelings and impressions we Latinos have about the Republicans and McCain. Bush and the GOP offered to help Hispanics and what has he done? Increase raids, unemployment and racist attacks against Latinos in general. Obama, as a Black man, understands what we’ve been through. Que viva Obama, nuestro proximo Presidente de los EE.UU!
Posted by: Elisa_in_VA | September 17, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Are we even sure that BHO is an american citizen or is he an illigal imigrant ?? All we have is his word that he was born in Hawaii, by an 18 YO unwed mother (Hmmmm seem to remember a lot in the press about another one, can’t remember who) as he “Can’t find his birth certificate.” Two documents I carefuly guard are my BC and DD214.
Posted by: Grantster | September 17, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Anyone who knows or has followed the imigration debate or lives on the border with Mexico knows it is and has always been the Democrats that have derailed imigration everytime there is an agreement. I guess kinda like they do on everything. They really do not want a gov. that works because well they would not have anything to cry about. They have never had any solutions just blame the other guy kinda like Obama now. What ever the issue ITS BUSHES FAULT , ITS JOHN MCCAINS Fault. While serious people are trying to get things done the DEMS and Obama exspecially are crying ITS HERE FAULT. Is that really what Americans want more blame game. Obama talks McCain does it really is that simple ya want some one who talks good or does good? McCain and Sarah for greater good of all.
Posted by: William Johnson | September 17, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
I hope John McCain remembers this. With the Democrats, no matter what side of the issue you’re on, it will not be their side. The Republicans that supported the voting rights act, will be a footnote in history, since the Democrat establishment can’t find a way to credit Republicans for anything.
Democrats will say or do anything to win an election. They will lie, cheat, and deceive endlessly, to win an election.
To believe that Barack Obama is any different is to believe that Barack Obama isn’t a Democrat.
Never forget, they’re pros at this and the media will never, ever call them on it.
Posted by: Jim | September 17, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Rush Limbaugh is a promoter of John McCain. Limbaugh and the right wing establishment will dictate what McCain does in office. Limbaugh is against an equitable and reasonable solution to the immigration problems because Republican leaning business owners and others who use cheap labor don’t want a solution. So Obama connects the two (McCain and Limbaugh) as he should. Limbaugh is a blight on the political landscape of America. And, McCain caved in and sold out to him and right wing talk radio on the immigration issue. And, McCain will be a captive of this bunch if they get him elected. Hispanic Americans and others who want immigrants treated fairly and want a responsible immigration policy will vote for Obama. Republicans and McCain and Limbaugh are not their friends.
Posted by: peter777 | September 17, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
What an empty useless suit Obama tunrs out to be afterall! His campaign will keep sinking deeper in the mud they’re trying to sling because he’s washed up and pretty well out of the race now! The more people get to see and hear this gas-bag perform with his teleprompter, those he doesn’t bore immediately will move on once they too awaken to the reality of Obama’s total lack of ethics, knowledge, civility and
common sense! The guy’s in love with himself! He’s really one huge ego maniac!
Posted by: WallyG | September 17, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
This sums it up…
Posted by: For Liberty | September 17, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
“All we have is his word that he was born in Hawaii, by an 18 YO unwed mother (Hmmmm seem to remember a lot in the press about another one, can’t remember who) as he “Can’t find his birth certificate.”
Actually his birth certificate in on file with HI, available for viewing on the internet and has been viewed and physically touched by both FactCheck & PoliFact
Brain dead right wingers however continue to insist on the lie you just proffered.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Obama is a FRAUDE and an arrogant COMUNISTA. He thinks we are a bunch of stupids who cannot read and speak English. “Merci beacoup” . Most Latin Americans came to the USA for the same reasons others came: In pursuit, not because of welfare. Obama can continue with his club of “gimegime” people, we are not here to ask for gifts but to build a future. Go BigMac/Palin!
Posted by: Jaime | September 17, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
“The Republicans that supported the voting rights act, will be a footnote in history”
That Republican party died with the ascendance of Reagan and the religious right.
After the Voting Right Act, the racist Dixiecrats went Republican en masse.
After the disgusting efforts to remove eligible voters from the rolls using dubious methods the last few elections, perhaps the GOP would be wise to remember the old days when they actually stood for something and stood up for all Americans.
I wouldn’t hold my breathe though.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
It is just beyond comprehension to me how any latino-american would support Obama.
Obama voted to kill the McCain/Kennedy amnesty bill that would have helped a lot of latinos (legal and illegal). McCain almost ended his career with his efforts on that bill b/c it was not in line with the Republican party.
Obama is a shameless moron who hopes to trick latinos into believing that he will look out for their interests if he wins (god help us all).
The only interests that Obama will look to protect are those of his fellow african-americans (and muslims)…
Posted by: Aaron Burr | September 17, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
@William Johnson – bingo on the reality. Hispanics do know who to vote for. We’re not the fools many of the current natives are – well good for us, bad for you though :P
Why didn’t McCain/Kennedy pass? Look at who controlled congress / senate….not that hard to figure out. Problem is an underlying concept that we bring over here from our politics – that the President has authority to do almost anything. To be honest I personally prefer that viewpoint but in Rome, alas, do as the Romans do :D
If Conservatives (I’m not saying GOP because they stopped being that ages ago…they would’ve killed Reagan…) want to win the few Hispanic stragglers they need to educate them in regards to the differences in the political system here. I’ve changed many minds by doing that!
Posted by: Josue | September 17, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Not even the illegals will vote for this empty suit. Now I am getting angry at this bozo from Chicago. It’s true, he’s nothing but a thug that will stoop to anything. But the country is getting wise about this Sammy Davis Jr./Louis Farrakhan mixed up Muslim.
Posted by: Robert R. | September 17, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
is obama going to change the hmo to bho? we all know he does’nt like the ppo because that’s a choice. michele will more than likely have a say on what the decal looks like with bho in the middle. fantasy land is what i see with the bho proposal.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Time for the McCain campaign to take the gloves off, let’s explore Obama’s 20 year relationship with Rev. Wright and Rev. Pfleger. And how about the $1,000,000 earmark for the hospital that gave Michelle a $150,000 raise. William Ayers anyone??
Posted by: run26mi | September 17, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
This election has been a real eye opener for me, the dems are shady. I would have never thought I would have just typed that, things change I guess. I cannot vote for Obama.
Posted by: Jon | September 17, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Obama is evil. He talks and talks and yet says NOTHING. He makes me puke.
Posted by: rater | September 17, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
What is all this tripe about the latinos giving all their lovin’ to Barry Obama? I know plenty of Latinos who look at Ronald Reagan as a hero and wish that he were still alive. These polls suggesting latinos just love Obama are a bunch of nonsense. Many Catholic Latinos despise the Democrats because of their “Have You Killed a Baby Today?” abortionized politics.
Posted by: Ralph | September 17, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
“If that was true then Bush would have never won the Hispanic vote, and McCain would not have won the FL primary.”
Two problems with this statement,
a) Bush did not win the Hispanic vote either in 2000 (62-35 to Gore) or in 2004 (53-44 to Kerry)
b) McCain was the lesser of 4 evils for the Hispanic community when it came to FL. The Cuban combined with other non Cuban Hispanics accounted for 11% of the voters in the FL GOP primary. 11% was the same portion for the Dem FL Primary that was basically an unpromoted, uncontested straw poll.
He is currently losing the Hispanic vote by a 2 to 1 margin to Obama and has been for much of the GE season.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Gee, I thought all you right-wing moonbats had completely abandonned the mainstream media and were only getting your news from one another. But, gosh, it sure looks like a lot of you read this article (to judge from the comments page)!
Posted by: Ricky123 | September 17, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Josue,
I never claimed to speak for Hispanics.
Though I find it quite funny that you are doing so.
Polls show Obama with a 2 to 1 margin of support over McCain.
Sorry you have a problem with that.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Ricky123,
Its an article about Rush so naturally the dittoheads came for a gander.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Why Obama wasn’t thoroughly repudiated the minute his evil was exposed shows only how deeply infected American society is with traitors, principally through the morally repugnant Democratic Party. The shame that now is attached to that once-decent political party will not soon, if ever, be erased.
The whole lot of them are filled with the evil stench that Obama has hoodwinked his “followers” with.
The whole country must cry out in opposition of the evil these mentally deranged individuals are trying to bring upon our great land.
This is serious — our union is actually at stake.
IDo we realize that the socialists are trying to take over? Do we?
Posted by: tanarg | September 17, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Obama=Charlatan-wake up America, wake up from your drunk-on-celebrity bender before it is too late.
Charlatan:
1. A Quack
2. One making usually showy pretenses to knowledge or ability: Fraud, Faker
Posted by: Silvio R. | September 17, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
The bottom line is that Zero-bama must be defeated, for his lies, for his deception, for his selling out his soul and his fellow democrats as racists and the same as the Bush administration.
Posted by: d0 | September 17, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Race-baiting Obama strikes again
Its getting hard to keep track of how many times hes played the race card, but hes done it again, this time in a Spanish language ad that is so filled with distortions and lies – and race-baiting smears – that ABCs Jake Tapp…
Posted by: Sister Toldjah | September 17, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
I’ve watched some of Obama’s ads aimed at Spanish-speaking voters.
I don’t think he understands them. They are more American than he is, and they don’t want to be Black a la Obama. They are like any other immigrants. They do care for immigration because they have families. For them, Obama is just another rich American trying to get their votes.
Posted by: BA | September 17, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
One important point you are getting wrong that will make it dangerous for the GOP to turn this around on Obama:
Limbaugh was railing FOR NAFTA, not against it.
It seems defending the integrity of Rush Limbaugh saying NAFTA is great because stupid Americans will loose their jobs to stupid Mexicans, during an economic downturn, is a bad strategy.
Rove set immigration up to be the wedge issue for this election but that fell apart when McCain won the nomination. This is why Rush was discussing Mexican immigration policy in the first place, not as a critique of Mexican law.
The commercial, though, was poorly made because there is a treasure trove of GOP quotes from last year that would fit the bill better, and as pointed out they don’t really match up.
Its probably tricky and risky for both campaigns.
I have no idea how hispanics feel about this debate being dredged up again by the Obama campaign but defending Rush is going to be tricky for a McCain trying to run against the GOP establishment.
Posted by: Pete | September 17, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
I am a minority and an immigrant but not voting for Obama, period.
Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 17, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Jake Tapper lays out some valid criticism of the ad, but he hasn’t shown that it’s erroneous or false. Rush said those things. And McCain has now repudiated his earlier stance on immigration. I wonder if Tapper has been objective here.
Posted by: Alon | September 17, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
So Jake, when Obama does this kind of stuff he’s just “unfair” but when McCain approaches this level of negativity he’s “dishonest”….got it. Again, words matter and they betray your “reporting.”
Posted by: b | September 17, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
“principally through the morally repugnant Democratic Party.”
Cunningham
Doolittle
Ney
Hunter
Delay
Frist
Young
Stevens
All Republicans. All charged with abusing the powers of their office.
I didn’t even mention the freak Mark Foley and Larry Craig.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Thank you, Jake for posting this article.
Posted by: jessica | September 17, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Obama The False just can’t keep from being false. He will sell us out in a skinny minute.
Posted by: Ken | September 17, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
So Jake, when Obama does this kind of stuff he’s just “unfair” but when McCain approaches this level of negativity he’s “dishonest”"
Perhaps because while this is one of a few ads by Obama that have been called out as misleading.
McCain has a dozen or so ads that have been called out right false.
Lie enough and people will call you dishonest.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Obama NEEDS the Latino vote to even come close to winning, however McCain doesn’t. In spite of this, McCain simply cannot be painted into a corner on immigration. His record speaks for itself and it’s one that conservatives will have to keep an eye on and their powder dry for.
Posted by: KoKoMo | September 17, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
152 bills of fluff. Nothing of substance. What legislation has he written on major issues?
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Tim I was referencing just the last 4 or 5 years. Ya know current events.
If you would like we can discuss the dozens of Republicans aides that were also indicted/convicted, we can do so.
Or we can discuss Scooter Libby and his treason by exposing an undercover CIA agent.
Or we can discuss the recent Republican sex for oil lease scandal happening.
If history is your game how about the Iran Contra scandal or even the oldie but goodie Watergate?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Try this for current Ryan.
RANGEL
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
“152 bills of fluff. Nothing of substance. What legislation has he written on major issues? ”
Perhaps the most relevant given the times, would be his STOP FRAUD act aimed at tacking the problems with the mortgage market.
Also doesn’t change the fact that you lied Earl. Now maybe you just repeated something you read on a right wing rag(I can understand that) but now you know its a lie and repeating it would make you a liar.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Don’t forget Barney Frank, oh, he hasn’t been indicted…yet.
Posted by: KoKoMo | September 17, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
“Try this for current Ryan.
RANGEL”
Failure to pay taxes (something Cindy McCain did for 4 years on her Coronado condo) vs millions in bribes by Republicans.
Sorry Earl, I think the Republicans still win the race for most sleazy members of staff and Congress.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Did he vote present for that bill? Besides that is NOT major legislation and everyone agrees that mortgage fraud should be curtailed. What do I know about Obama from that?
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Racist parody is still racist Tim.
You can’t put lipstick on the pig.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
How does being against illegal immigration make one a racist? So simple minded. There are a ton of problems created by people coming to the US illegally, like dying in the trunk of an abandoned car in the desert. Or little girls being raped by coyotes, or using other people’s social security numbers, or not being treated humanely in the work force or afraid to report crimes being perpetrated against them for fear of being sent home.
Is that all you have got? Victim, Victim, Victim! Yeah racism is alive and well in the US, but a black man is a few votes away from being President. No wonder the D use a jackass for the party symbol.
Posted by: RB | September 17, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Took the words out of my mouth Ryan.
Obama claims to be above partisan politics but lipstick on a pig is still a pig. Obama is no change agent. He is politics as usual and this “ad” is proof of that.
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Maybe theese are lies about what Limbaugh said and maybe it’s not fair to tie them to McCain, but SO WHAT! We have to do everything possible to win. The ends justify the means. If we have to lie a little to get Obama elected, then I’m all for it.
Posted by: Mike | September 17, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
“Did he vote present for that bill?”
You can’t vote present in the US Senate.
Its an IL legislature thing. See you can vote present in the legislature and your vote counts as a no. They are used very often by both parties in strategic votes of budegets and the like. During Obama’s time in the IL he voted present 130 times out of perhaps 4000 votes. 45 of those were procedural battles with the GOP.
“Besides that is NOT major legislation and everyone agrees that mortgage fraud should be curtailed.”
Authoring a bill aimed at curtailing mortgage fraud 2 years before the crisis hints isn’t major?
Bush voter right?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Did you just compare Rangel’s tax evasion to Cindy paying back taxes on her condo?
Even Nancy Pelosi is upset with Rangel.
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
“No, The One has stuck his name on 152 bills (trusting that number is correct). He has authored ZERO. And you have the gall to accuse the other poster of lying? Typical hypocritical lib…”
The primary sponsor is the author of the bill.
Typical right winger, stupid & dishonest.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Democrats Lying-What a shocker!!
1.Its Congress that controls Washington’s Pursestrings but the recession THEY blame on the President.Lie!
2.Obama’s Extremist Muslim Cousin isn’t trying to overthrow the US friendly government of Kenya. Lie!(Obama talks with him regularly)
3.Obama hasn’t spent the last 15 years (or so) involved with Socialist and Communists Organizations. Lie!
4.Obama and Wife both headed “Public Allies” an organization bent on indoctrinating our sons and daughters into the Socialist/Communist way of life by forming a civilian militia.Community organizer?? True!!!
This is a VERY twisted and dangerous Liar!!!
Posted by: B. M. | September 17, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Thanks for the poli sci lesson Ryan, but I am a Chicago resident and know how it works here. Fact is Obama has authored NOTHING.
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
“Did you just compare Rangel’s tax evasion to Cindy paying back taxes on her condo?”
Let’s see failure to pay $5K in taxes on rental income equals evasion.
Failure to pay $5K in property taxes is waht exactly then?
Still leaves Cunningham, Hunter, Ney, Delay, Stevens, Doolittle etc etc,
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Obama’s Stop Fraud Act had many problem areas as any objective observer would admit. There are current mortgage laws that just need to be enforced. It did address two key points well; Mortgage Bankers Culpability and Funding for enforcement of current laws.
Posted by: KoKoMo | September 17, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
“Fact is Obama has authored NOTHING.”
Except for 152 bills & resolutions.
Why do you lie Earl?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
So inbetween whining about Republicans pointing out that Obama went to a racist anti-American church for 23 and his political career was started at terrorist Bill Ayers’ house (who he also sat on two boards with)… Obama runs an ad connecting Limbaugh and McCain – who can’t stand eachother!
Not only that, but he takes both Limbaugh quotes completely out of context to impugn and smear him as a racist when he has never said anything racist in 19 years on the air. If you have a specific racist quote of Limbaugh’s, post it. You can’t because he has never said anything racist.
Posted by: Greg | September 17, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Tell me what rental property in NY he lets out at 5K over 5 years?
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Ryan,
No use continuing with you. You have no facts on your side. What Obama did with this ad is misleading, dishonest, race-baiting, and fear-mongering.
Posted by: Earl | September 17, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
“No use continuing with you. You have no facts on your side.”
Earl,
I offered facts, you ignored them in favor of repeating lies. The I called you on that.
Now you’re just another coward running away after getting socked in the mouth like every other right winger I come across.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
KoKoMo thanks for taking the time to read the bill.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 17, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
All I can say is typical Obama elitism. He thinks he can get away with lying to Hispanics. We are so much smarter than that. How insulting of him to try and exploit us in this way
Posted by: Gary Sieburg | September 17, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Now, when will we see all of the msm pundits crying foul, shrieking about what an outrageous liar Obama is, how he has no honor? Oh, that’s right! The rules only apply to McCain. The MSM’s gonna need a bigger tank.
Posted by: CS | September 17, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
John McCain and Rush Limbaugh are buds, everyone knows it. This ad is accurate to the T. Jake Trapper assails every hard-hitting Obama ad, and then writes that Obama is not hard-hitting enough. Trapper is extremely biased here as usual.
Posted by: bob10001 | September 17, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
I see we are still off the meaty topics. You folks are just so upset because Obama gave you a taste of your own medicine. And now…Ladies and Gentleman…the self righteous GOP! (Hold the Applause.)
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
To tell you the truth….I didn’t even look at the ad. I’ll take your word for it. He twisted the facts! Whoa!!!!!!!!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
SoWhat:
You’re right to a point. Obama does sometimes talk about issues in between his slanderous attacks. But often he talks about issues that HE shouldn’t.
For example, Obama, who pays his female staffers 83% of what he pays his male staffers, should not be talking about pay equity. Obama, who purchased a $1.6 million home with the help of a convicted felon, shouldn’t be talking about other candidates’ homes. And Obama, who takes millions of dollars from lobbyists and broke his word to opt out of the public campaign finance system, shouldn’t talk about other candidates’ ties to lobbyists.
An experienced politician like Hillary certainly wouldn’t have made such rookie mistakes. But the arrogant Obama does, gambling that the fawning press will never call him on it. We’ll see.
Posted by: richard | September 17, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
As John McCain said on the view: this is a tough campaign. I certainly don’t condone lying; however, if we’re keeping score… McCain is still WAY far ahead in the lying game. I think these types of political maneuverings are criminal, because — if they are in fact flat out lies — it deceives the public. That’s not right. We deserve fair, honest ads and campaigning, including legit journalism/reporting. But the door to the low road was opened long ago by the GOP.
I’d like to see Obama win this entire election taking the high road from now on. I think he’s done a great job so far of redirecting his opposition to issues and pointing out the underlying, fundamental flaws in their arguments. He needs to continue down that path, in my opinion.
But, then again, I read some commentary recently that discussed Dem v Rep campaigning and how Republicans have a knack for “winning” elections because they do whatever it takes to win: Lying and scheming and cheating happen to be one of their tactics. I wish it didn’t go there; I wish that weren’t the case. But it is.
Posted by: thevealchop | September 17, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
I hope that the ladies on The View will grill Obama about his ad that is a lie; or that his campaign’s ads are 77% negative vis a vis McCain at 56%. So much for post-partisanship.
Posted by: luca99 | September 17, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Richard? What’s my name? SO WHAT!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Not a fan of MSM I salute ABC for this report. I find the clarification and reining in of political rhetoric useful.
Thanks
Posted by: Donld | September 17, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
‘SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA’, shame on your supporters – remind you of anyone -”shame on you Barack Obama” – I don’t agree with Hillary Clinton on much – but when she spoke that sentence she was absolutely right.
This country deserves better than Barack Obama and Joe Biden – truly it does. Obama/Biden – take all your Wall Street and Hollywood money and purchase some decency with those millions.
McCain (an honorable man) Palin (an exceptional woman) – 2008!!!
Posted by: RAltiere | September 17, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
CHANGE the facts, WE NEED to.
Posted by: Kriuk | September 17, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
After Bill “Backstab” Richardson made his derogatory comments about the Clintons this year, I ceased to care about Latino immigration issues. Let’s enforce U.S. immigration laws, please.
Posted by: Special interests | September 17, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
There were few facts to support your assertions, and those facts that are cited are less than compelling. Further, you draw very tenuous conclusions from those few facts that you do cite. Finally, I’m disappointed with your failure to recognize that it was the McCain camp who required complete disavowing of not only inflammatory language of people who support a candidate or that know a candidate. Oh, is that just a one way street?
Posted by: Randy | September 17, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Bzzt, wrong. Not even a good strawman. The ad in question said Obama supported a bill that called for sex ed for kindergarteners. He did – he voted for a bill (i.e., supported it by voting for it) that was specifically amended to require “age appropriate” sex ed for kindergarteners (as if there is such a thing). I’ve seen the text of the bill. It’s easy to find online.
But thanks for bringing it up again!
Posted by: MoonbatBane | September 17, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Slimy, but not a surprise. Democrats have been unhinged ever since 2000.
Posted by: Winston Smith | September 17, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE PRESIDENTIAL CHOICES
I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..
If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re ‘exotic, different.’
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, and its a quintessential American story.
If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.
Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.
If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer,
become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review,
create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters,
spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor,
spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people,
become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee,
spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13
million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign
Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees,
you don’t have any real leadership experience.
If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years
on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less
than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000
people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second
highest ranking executive.
If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters,
all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.
If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress,
and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month,
you’re a Christian.
If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including
the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only,
with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system
while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you’re very responsible.
If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm
to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family,
your family’s values don’t represent America’s.
If you’re husband is nicknamed ‘First Dude’, with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and
once was a member of a group that advocated: the secession of Alaska from the USA,
your family is extremely admirable.
OK, much clearer now.
Need I say more?
Posted by: Obama all the Way | September 17, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
ryan c – lol, if you want to talk about scandal, 152 bills! how can you do that by voting present, obama can’t even vote on bill’s he say’s he created! get your fact’s straight you liberal nut! let’s talk about scandal, that’s a seriously losing argument coming from a liberal! democrats are by far more corrupt and decieving liars thanks to the liberal idiotic left! when you bring out scandal’s by the right, you better bring up the left you moron! that just proves your sleeping with obama, p.s., don’t tell hillary about your past with billy boy, she might get mad and vote for McCain/Palin like most of her commonsense voter’s
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
David – I’m all of the above. You’re a Republican. What do you expect me to do? Argue with what you said. You guys are the epitome of truth. I’d be a nut to debate you. Tell me whatever. I’m all ears. Making a list…
the economy is strong…
mccain never lies….
obama’s an elitist….
the GOP is transparent…
WHAT DID I MISS?!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
And supporting late term abortion is a good family value?
Obama supported a bill that allowed this heinous act until he realized the political jeopardy he was in, then he just voted present.
Posted by: David | September 17, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
obama all the way to a 3rd world country status. McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
All the more reason centrist Democrats are voting McCain.
Posted by: Obama a poor candidate | September 17, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
What? The candidate of “hope” and change” and “binging people together” is divisive, angry, and has crossed a line into treacherous deception?
Obama is a charlatan through and through, that’s a given, but we still need to know what this man did when he went to Iraq and pressured the Iraqis to delay troop withdrawal until he was president!
Audacious treason I say.
Posted by: maryam | September 17, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
If Obama is so tough on McCain’s immigration stance, why did he vote yes on S.1348 the McCain / Kennedy for Comprehensive Immigration Reform?
Posted by: Jim | September 17, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
david – GOD bless you brother! keep at em’ McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Anyone who sees this ad and has a favorable response is: 1) not going to vote because they aren’t registered. 2) a hopeless Obama supporter anyway. 3) racist. or 4) a stupid person. Any way you look at it, it doesn’t look good. Yes both sides have stupid moments, but Obama is running out of excuses for the magnitude of his.
Posted by: John Wark | September 17, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
jim – so he could run for president. McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Who’s the real racist?
The answer is clear.
Posted by: For Liberty | September 17, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
I think Barry made a mistake. Limbaugh has 3 hours a day, 5 days a week and does not have to pay for airtime. Obama has to pay to get on the air.
Limbaugh can start cutting and pasting Obama’s stuff and playing it on the air. I know that he has a large conservative audience that would probably not vote Obama anyway but he also has a lot of Independents and they are the ones who will decide the election.
Posted by: Big Dog | September 17, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
@Ryan C: I don’t believe GOP-based polls either, mind you. All of them are just a bunch of unecessary garbage. Mathematical manipulation is so simple…but I digress.
You do claim to “speak for us”, Ryan, when you point to stats like the one you are, claiming them to be a fact. They don’t speak for us, and it’s not a matter of wether or not I don’t like them – it’s that by nature they are flawed. If the “polls” where correct, statistics would put me by default into a large pool of negative Hispanic stereotypes. All polls are bollocks.
Never trust a poll Ryan C. Bad business…
Posted by: Josue | September 17, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Ryan C
You do need to get your facts straight – oh wait! you’re a democrat so facts are just petty annoyances. Scooter Libby did not expose Plame as a CIA agent – as a matter of fact the law as it is defined did not apply (she had not been a covert agent in quite some time). I fail to see any point in your postings other than to expose the hypocrisy of your party. Could it be that you’re actually a GOP mole? Because your musings certainly make the GOP look damn good. Trish
Posted by: Trish Zeinert | September 17, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
so what – you want some spin! try gaining a little intelligence and that just might do the trick! McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 17, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Congrats Jake, as long as you folks in the media are willingly carrying the water for Barack Obama, he’s going to continue getting away with telling outright lies and not getting called on it.
Welcome to the bed you’ve made. Have fun sleeping in it.
Posted by: The Truth | September 17, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
I’m sick, but your elected officials can’t keep their hands off minors. And you keep electing them. I’m sick though? DON”T MAKE ME LAUGH!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Wow, ABC, I am AMAZED that you had the intellectual honesty to call out Obama on this one. Honestly guys, doesn’t it feel good to be objective journalists again?
As for the BS ad itself, I wonder how long it will be before Obama makes his usual claim of “It was regrettable but I can’t control everything my staffers say” (even though he uses the campaign as “proof” of his management abilities.) Of course that annoying little “I’m Barack Obama and I approved this ad” will come back to bite him.
Posted by: p3orion | September 17, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Where’s the Obama and liberal outcry about the email break in on the Palin family?
Posted by: bill | September 17, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
tim… zip your pants up please before speaking to me. PERVERT!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Viva McCain/Palin 08′ —-from a Latino Conservative Marine—Semper Fi!
Posted by: LatinoMarine | September 17, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Outcry? Protect your own email. If she wasn’t trying to hide (hmmmm…BUSH) maybe they would not have hijacked her account. I could care less about her email.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Mr. Tapper, seriously?
Maybe you should re-read the “lazy” quote. Mr. Limbaugh states clearly that those Mexicans who come here are lazy and stupid. You seem to confuse the concept of ‘out of context’ with ‘was a minor not a major point.’
Second, Mr. Limbaugh DOES in fact mock Mexican immigration policy that would never allow immigrants to protest and demonstrate. It does NOT follow, however, that Mr. Limbaugh support a counter, American, pro-protest policy. Indeed, I suspect that every American is convinced that Mr. Limbaugh DISAPPROVES of immigrants protesting U.S. immigration policies (and correctly so as an listener of his program can attest).
You seem to chastise Obama as if this were some university dissertation where sources were not quoted fully or the cited evidence is inconclusive. Fair enough. But it isn’t a dissertation; its a 30 second political add.
How can McCain be linked to Limbaugh? Could it be that they’re both Republicans? Could it be that both regularly push the ‘Republican’ platform on the subject?
Sorry, not the best ad and not wholly fair to McCain – but only in so far as McCain daily denounces the immigration extremism of the GOP (fat chance).
Posted by: Jim | September 17, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Fact checker ? What a pointless exercise with a racist like Limbaugh. ! Spending time trying to figure out whether Limbaugh was the victim of factual inaccuracies, is much akin to spending your time picking the fly poop out of the pepper. Limbaugh has made his career playing fast and loose with the truth, Why worry about nuanced distortions about the king of bombastic and B.S.?
Oh I get it, your trying to make sure candidates are not advantaged by false impressions drawn about the candidates. Ha, ha, ha ha !!!!Let yout sifting continue!!!
Posted by: george lloyd | September 17, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
It is really so very interesting to see you John McCain supporters decrying this ad and talking about how bad this is.
My question to you all is whan did you start being concerned about misleading ads. How about the Lipstick on a pig ad. Everyone knew that Obama’s comments had nothing to do with Palin, and McCain was condemned for that even by Karl Rove. How about the absolutely untrue Pedophile ad. That was shown to be completely false.
If you all go to fact check you would see that McCain’s ads have been found to be much more inaccurate than Obama’s.
Too many of you commenting here are just slaves to your party affiliation and lack the ability to be fair and/or reasonable.
I once admired John McCain, and would have voted for him in 2000, but this person now running is not the man I admired. This John McCain is absolutely the most dirty campaigner I have experienced in presidential politics. He will lose and that is because he has lost independents like me.
Posted by: Oracle | September 17, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
I should not have brought up Bush. I forgot he is in the OTHER Republican party. You have no idea how fed up the world is with this self righteous party.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I can shed no tears for Limbaugh. He has used half truths, and out of context comments to vilify people for years now. He is mean spirited and hateful.
Whatever he gets he deserves. He is a truly disgusting person.
Posted by: Know Ah | September 17, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Cut the crap. It’s gone long last the point where any comment whatsoever about illegal aliens is seen as “racism.” OK, then I guess I’m a racist…I can live with it. Illegal Mexican citizens see the U.S. as a giant ATM, nothing more; they cling to their macho, blustering nationalism with no thought of even a thank you to the country that’s provided them with the sustenance and benefits their own corrupt government won’t provide them. L.A. County spent $85 billion on services to illegals in 2007. Enough ! The U.S. should treat whining illegals from Mexico the same way that Mexico treats the poor Guatemalans illegally crossing its southern border. Wave your flag somewhere else at someone else’s expense.
Posted by: MDWhite | September 17, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Now let’s talk about two of Obama’s key economic advisors. The ones who spent time at Freddie/Fannie — one walked away with $90 million — that’s real change isn’t it? Where’s the media blitz on this????
Posted by: Claire | September 17, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Um, Barack? Are your sleazy smear campaign ads even MORE evidence of your proposed “New type of politics”? “Politics of change”? Hillary Clinton said it best and said it first, long long ago, “Shame on you Barack Obama! You know better!”. McCain 2008/Hillary 2012
Posted by: PhillyPaul | September 17, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
as an Obama supporter, I don’t feel good about this ad.
However, compared to Maccain campign’s ad, this is less distorted.
I hope, both campaign should not distort the facts.
We should have immediate FACT check about the ads. And MSM should do this function unbiasedly.
Posted by: zen | September 17, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Hey…if McCain is anti-immigration, then he has my vote. Drill and Deport.
Posted by: roger king | September 17, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
ok…So some wealthy people work on his campaign. If he had bums on there you would accuse them of being from the ghetto. Whoa…that’s relevant. SO WHAT!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Limbaugh is awesome.
Obama doesn’t know what he’s gotten himself into.
Posted by: Dave | September 17, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Lewis:
Newsflash: Obama has been in Washington for the past three years, yes dear, but not as “PRESIDENT”. Be patient. Hope & Change will come. Have faith.
Obama/Biden 2008 ALL THE WAY . . . .
Posted by: Obama all the Way | September 17, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
If it weren’t for double standards, Democrats wouldn’t have any standards at all.
If McCain had sponsored ZERO legislation before seeking higher office, the Left would have been screaming bloody murder about him being “unqualified.”
WHY do they not care that BHO didn’t do a thing but polish his Italian loafers his entire time in Congress?
Why do they not care that he has no experience save HUBRIS, CORRUPTION, AND GREED?
Posted by: stgeorgeschapel | September 17, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
To poster Philly Paul so in 2012 do you expect to have Hillary Clinton win without the support of the Obama supporters. Do you think that they will forget so quickly. I am willing to bet you that should Obama lose many Obama supporters will hold you Clinton liable and Mrs. Clinton may well find herself in trouble here in New York in her next senate run.
Posted by: Oracle | September 17, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
obama all the way,
a “brilliant” community organizer? still i’m waiting for someone to tell me what is so brilliant about that job… and representing so many people in the senate winning the election by eliminating the other candidates in the courts (too bad he can’t do that now huh?).
i wonder at what point did BHO’s children went from an nonviable mass of tissue to “beautiful daughters”?
and since he was a constitutional prof i would certainly expect he would understand a senator going to a foreign country and trying to negotiate keeping troops in iraq might just be outside a senators duties and outside the law.
but who cares about all that when all he wants is hope, change and unity.
Posted by: andy | September 17, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
I ignore ads. But none of you are running for President. What is Obama supposed to do? Endure the impact of the MCain ads that accuse him of being a pedophile, teaching minors about sex…causing an increase in gas prices. OH…he supposed to just take all of that? Look- you know and I know…he may be running a change campaign, but he can’t change much of anything if he doesn’t win. He’s playing the hand he was dealt. Sure it’s sleazy…but it’s fair considering the environment. Defend Rush? Not in my life! It’s laughable!
Posted by: SoWhat | September 17, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Well, I said it that the MSM followed Axelrod’s talking points about McCain and honesty, and now they have fallen into this trap.
Obama over the last few days has been totally out of control with negative untrue ads. MSM silence is deafening.
I know know who I dislike more Obama or the MSM.
Posted by: jlp | September 17, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
To the poster Truth—, you are so wrong. The wall street problem is the result of actions taken by Phil Gramn, John McCain and the republicans, to deregulate the Banking community. They took the dogs away and so those cats did play.
McCain is now talking about regulations. He is a huge part of the problem. His days as one of the Keating 6 are not over.
Posted by: Oracle | September 17, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
zen (Sep 17, 2008 11:30:24 PM) says he doesn’t like the Obama ad, but oh well, it’s “less distorted” than McCain’s.
Oh, so if someone breaks the headlight on your car, but it’s less broken than the other one, it’s okay?
Obama (Mr. Harvard) should know better, right?
Well, he does. But he does it anyway. Lies, deceit, whatever it takes to get into the White House.
Posted by: Michelle | September 17, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Limbaugh? I can’t stand him! But what’s with Obama these days? Doesn’t he know who he’s running against? Palin? Limbaugh? me?
His Harvard law degree doesn’t impress me. This is one woman (Yale law) who’s not so stupid to fall for the Obama smooth talking!
Posted by: Michelle | September 17, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
The desperation of the Democrats is so delicious to any ‘real’ American.
Posted by: Jason | September 17, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Good analysis Jake! It’s one of the few times I’ve seen ABC do a full and accurate analysis!
Posted by: bob | September 18, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
As a Latin American let me say what I said yesterday:
The writer of this blog is lying. Democrats are the only people who have tried to help democrats. McCain tried and failed.
This blog writer has an agenda and is lying to the readers.
Posted by: Matt | September 18, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
People are looking at both McCain and Obama with “GO Team” glasses on. Both are bad for America, both will say anything to anyone to get the power they want. When will America wake up and hold our elected memebers of the Federal Government to account for what they have done to this country. The Democrats have had total oversight of all commerce in America for the last two years. They have take millions in lobby money from Freddie and Fannie and they have zero blame in all this?
NONE OF THE ABOVE!
Posted by: James Norman | September 18, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
As a latino-American, I am offended by this divisive, untrue and ethnic-baiting ad. Whatever chance Obama had of bringing me back to the fold, just went out the window.
Posted by: jrterrier | September 18, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Tapper doesn’t know how inmigants feel in this country when Republicans insult them on TV and on the radio. And it isn’t just them, it is the republican politicians that are against inmigrants getting their papers to legalize their situation.
shame on you Tapper and shame on the Republican party.
Posted by: Andy | September 18, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
You are one of the only journalists I respect because you have integrity.
Posted by: Robin | September 18, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Portraying McCain as hard line against illegal aliens is the best thing Obama could do to help the McCain candidacy. As was demonstrated when the amnesty bill was before the Senate, American CITIZENS don’t want illegal aliens here. When Obama becomes known as pro-illegal alien, he will lose votes. If McCain is seen as anti-illegal alien, he will gain votes. …. If the truth about Obama’s views on gun control become widely known he’ll lose votes. 73% of the American people and the US Supreme Court believed the DC gun ban to be unconstitutional. Obama later said he knew it was unconstitutional. He supported it anyway and continues to support a similar ban in Chicago. While in the Illinois state Legislature he voted for a similar statewide ban and voted against a law that would allow Chicago citizens to use a gun inside their own home to defend themselves.. … He is clearly going against the majority of AMERICANS and the Supreme Court in favor of the UN and Mexico. Who’s president does he want to be anyway?
Posted by: Oonogil | September 18, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Oracle,
Totally wrong. Graham’s act had to do with allowing banking consolidation, nothing to do with oversight of mortgage lending. No economist has linked the current crisis to consolidation; as a matter of fact, the mechanism to bail out Bear required Graham’s act, since it involved crossover between investment and standard banks. The current crisis was caused by subprime mortgage rates, which both Bush in 2002 and McCain in 2005 tried to restrict, but were thrwarted by Dodd, ranking member of the Senate who buried the bills in committee. No coincidence, Dodd is the biggest recipient of money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. All the data is in the NYT and WSJ, and it’s not at all difficult to follow:)
Posted by: GG | September 18, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
This Latino will NOT be voting for Obama!!! That man treats us like a bunch of lap dogs!!! He can take his Ivy League education elsewhere!!!
As a Catholic, I don’t like his waffling on abortion.
Viva McCain/Palin!!!
Posted by: Chez | September 18, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
desperate men do desparate things. this one is going to haunt him all the way back to harvard where maybe he can teach ethics.
Posted by: rita | September 18, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Jake Trapper is one of the few journalists with the guts to tell it like it is. He won’t last long. Men of integrity don’t fit in with left wing liberal media. …. As for illegal aliens getting insulted, I hope they get mad enough to leave. Not likely.
Posted by: Oonogil | September 18, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Thank you for a balanced article Jake.
Could you please look into why Fannie and Freddie went down just before the
Election? And why the top recipients of campaign donations from their people
were Dodd, Frank, Obama and Clinton?
Posted by: redryder | September 18, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
To Andy and Matt; could you please let those of us who are obviously less informed than you are know what the author is lying about. Your “he’s lying” arugment seems to have substantially less merit than does Jake Tappers. At least he has makes valid points and explains his reasoning.
Posted by: Michael | September 18, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Red? U CIA? If it’s secretive how the heck would you know? You wouldn’t be lying would you? People in here do not react kindly to lies.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 18, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
As a governance & risk professional who deals with GLBA daily (Graham-Leach Bliley Act) and has a post-secondary education in finance, Obama’s insinuations are attractive only to the uneducated fools.
GLBA permitted consolidation and greater stability, as well as diversification into broader areas of financial services (btw, what do you think is happening today with these assets being purchased?)
It also applied a whole slew of new regulations oriented at the protection of the consumer. As a financial processor, we are audited annually by the FFIEC. They look at how we protect consumer data and have real teeth when it comes to noncompliance.
Obama just isn’t a credible individual. He’s done nothing and it shows. He’s as intellectually deep as the Platte River. Please understand that if you support this poseur, people who are professionals in their field will have a hard time taking you seriously.
Posted by: redherkey | September 18, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Let’s see… Oh Mighty Barack Obama!!
Presents himself as “change” while pursuing big government policies that result in destruction of free enterprise… (darn it I read history books and studied economics… I never should have read “Wealth of Nations” either)
Presents himself as one of “hope” while having marxists and bigots as big influences in his life (he even wrote that in his books!)…
Presents himself as having 12 years as a constitutional law professor which is listed by the University of Chicago as “senior lecturer”. (This also brings into light Professor “Maybe I’m the last communist who is willing to admit it.” Bill Ayers – 1995.) Golly, Obama was there from 1992-2004….
Barack won’t take people out of context or use fear mongering…. he’ll just say he voted “present”.
Posted by: Ken | September 18, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
I have had enough of you professionals with your EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE. You come on here claiming you have “THE ANSWER” You don’t! Give me some common sense and have a seat in the corner.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 18, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
Rush is correct. Obama began playing the race card. Ask the Clintons( was that in South Carolina, ask Bill Clinton) and Geraldine (ask her). They are correct as well. Obama attended a radical anti- white church for 20 years. No, he’s not a bad guy and would never seek high office in a bad way. He’s so truthful and never was influenced by those good folks. Get a life, people!
Posted by: Christie | September 18, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Obama is running these smear ads in selective states, and the media is covering only his less innocuous ones that his campaign sends them as “national ads”. I have seen two ads against McCain where they totally took McCain’s words out of context, one of them about social security. McCain has said over and over that what is happening to the future of social security is a disaster, and so the Obama ad takes “disaster” out of context and says in the ad that McCain says that social security itself is a disaster, and then they have some older people saying they need social security, on and on ad nauseum. Obama is vile, I am a dem voting straight republican this year for the first time in my life.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | September 18, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
redryder….
some of the financial problems might have been somewhat affected BECAUSE of the upcoming elections. Many long term investments are not made until you know what lies ahead for taxes and regulations. The company I work for has been working with many corporations to create plans regarding climate change regulations so that they can adjust to the rules quickly (These companies KNOW man-made climate change is a farce, but none of them can prevent stupid people from voting in bad politicians).
Posted by: Ken | September 18, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Wow…an MSM telling Barrack that he’s wrong about something. Did they final grow a conscience or are their ratings tanking?
Posted by: Greg | September 18, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
redherkey: Hey, didn’t McCain try to get some legislation passed in 2005 or 2006 that called for increased oversight as far as Freddie and Fannie were concerned? If I recall he saw the dangers back then, but everyone seems to forget that. I think it failed because all the dems and some of the repubs voted against it. Follow the money to see who is the back pocket of Wall Street. I’ll give you a hint, it’s not Mccain.
Posted by: Grammy Barb | September 18, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
“So What” is an Obama shill.. This ad is evidence that Obama has no intention of any cooperation with anyone but the left wing of his party. McCain has a long history of crossing the isle… we have the party of Obama/Reid/Pelosi or the party of McCain/Palin…Dishonesty in advertising is a known quantiy after the Obama—Hillary fiasco. Its time for good judgement and honest leadership. Not more shallowness from “the one” he’s been waiting for.
Posted by: Thotman | September 18, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Why is Obama now campaining for McCain? If McCain is the anti-immigrant candidate, then he gets my vote.
Posted by: Namako_H3 | September 18, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
Ken… your comments on capital finance decisions being driven by anticipation of political outcomes is an astute one. i think that’s certainly a tactical factor, and is shown in the political contribution straddle going on right now.
If you’re curious about the greater game going on, buy soros’s “The Alchemy of Finance” (and yes, send ol’ george a few dollars). it’s worth giving him a few bucks to understand why he needs instability and volatility to profit. What most don’t understand is that there is a class of investor that preys upon extreme cases of disequilibrium in capital markets.
In a sense, I respect the hell out of Soros for this recognition. He looks at idiot bureaucrats like the Obama type as sitting ducks. Planned economics ala USSR, Obama/Pelosi/Reid and other progressive models cannot respond to information as quickly as capital markets do. They can’t price fast enough, and often get stuck sustaining absurd positions. Soros developed a model that uses extreme leverage and destroys those on the wrong side of disequalibrium.
If you understand this, you’ll understand why Soros wants this condition in the greatest financial market globally (the US). The greater the disparity, the greater his opportunity to profit. Of course, like in the movie Independence Day, it comes a cost. It destroys worlds. It leaves blue collar people jobless. It destroys white collar occupations. It leaves an economy ravaged. But to Soros, he has no allegiance to nation-states.
That’s your opponent. That’s your Obama backer. That’s why a completely empty community organizer shell is a Presidential candidate. As Dr. Taleb (of the Black Swan) points out, when you invite black swans in, don’t be surprised if the arrive.
Posted by: redherkey | September 18, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
If Obama is telling me that McCain is the anti-illegal alien candidate, then McCain has my vote. Thanks for the ad, Obama!
Posted by: Namako_H3 | September 18, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
redherkey,
Thank you for the recognition. I’ll look into that book, but I believe I will try to buy it used.
I bring up this election with others quite often, because I will not go gently into that good night!
Posted by: Ken | September 18, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
Ken… good luck. Used is always good. Stay a skeptic. People don’t get to this level of the game accidentally. For a completely empty suit to be promoted up should send serious alarms. McCain’s the old man who sat in his desk for 40 years and the old guard feels it is time to reward him with more than a watch. That’s normal. Pushing a low-level ACORN radical street thug to presidential considerations in a few years is not. Be alarmed and look for who is driving this dynamic.
The one I can’t quite figure is the McCain game. I wish the media would get off of all this side-game crap on Palin’s baby, daughter, etc. and really find out who’s driving McCain. I can’t see him as a black swan emerging from exogenous swellings of support (e.g. Palin who /is/ a black swan). McCain’s a known quantity and part of the system. So who benefits from his placement? Yes, he’s the only alternative option, but I think we need to go back to what occurred during the primaries to understand who’s behind him.
Bush was a mistake. I truly wish we’d have an alternative party that would stand on principal, but the Dems sold out and have absolute crooks like Pelosi and Reid running things. Seriously, anyone who keeps Charlie Rangel in office is beyond suspect. Then again, I’m not sure I could ever find it in me to support the party of the Klan.
There’s a lot of money in this game. Setting the US economy off kilter and profiting from it puts hundreds of billions in play. Most people don’t seem to understand that. We’re the fat, lazy cow ready for slaughter and we have a DNC that is eager to offer us up (for their cut), and a RNC that would do the job too, but has a higher price.
Good luck in this election…
Posted by: redherkey | September 18, 2008, 1:43 am 1:43 am
Palin may not know what Bush doctrine/policy is but facts are showing that Mcain/palin are following Bush ideology and interesting they share many common things with radicalism views such as Al-quida Here is common things I have found so far They are claiming they are the one from God doing Gods tasks to clean up demons on earth.They have black &white view of world , they say either you are with us or against us.They do not like other religions and believe their religion is the only one.They have zero tolerance to opposition, enemy should be crushed to death no talk/diplomacy with enemy.They believe they are always right, never admit their mistakes and be sorry about their mistakes.They act fist then think after , they like preemptive actions without calculating outcomes.They are selfish and ignoring and rejects facts against them.They Believe in today’s problems only and do not care about future crisis.They scare people to support them by claiming they are the only one can protect them.They do not believe in avoiding disaster by ignoring them first until becomes tool late to take action.They desperate in crisis and say you are on your own first, They are over confidence about their knowledge about issues and ignore other’s thoughts. They like power very much and do whatever it takes to get it.They blame enemy for every problem.Wake up America, We had 8 years of failed Bush policy ,As old dogs never learn new things do not be fooled by MCain after 27 years in Washington and Voting 95% with Bush all of sudden wants to bring change. enough is enough.
Posted by: No MCcain | September 18, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
One of Obama’s few remaining strong claims has been that he is smarter than McCain. Well, so much for that.
Posted by: bc | September 18, 2008, 2:22 am 2:22 am
Isn’t diversity wonderful? That’s all this election has been about. It’s now man against woman, black against white, mexican against white. That’s the future of this country. 10-1 we see a civil war in this century. Political correctness (and Ted Kennedy’s immigration reform of 1964) will be to blame.
Posted by: drbolsin | September 18, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
Will… I actually agree with your comments:
” People don’t want to hear your hypothesis and theories when they are broke. They are worried about their children. They are worried about whether they will have a job tomorrow”
Wiki Agency Theory and you’ll have the fat-cat version of what I deal with daily. As someone who works in the Fortune 500 world and lives in BFE rural America, I get to see and live both sides. You’re right, btw, that this dynamic drives a lot.
So what do you do when someone comes along and promises to give you money that he is stealing from your neighbor? Things are tough. Your kids are not starving, but you believe they could be doing better than this. You don’t have the same perks as your neighbors.
Lacking any objective foundation, you empower the thief. You vote Obama. McCain is a pathetic has-been and he offers you nothing from your neighbor’s home. Old Grandpa McCain preaches things that might have been relevant 50 years ago, but not now.
That said, this election says everything about you. Are you a pawn of those who prey upon disequalibrium? Yes, it’s a hard concept and they’re counting on you being too stupid to get it. There’s a good living taking money from people like you.
The point is this: Do you trust those like me who lecture you about how stupid you are leaving your wallet on the table and leaving yourself easy pickings to Obama’s Masters? Or do you trust the con artists like Obama who say pretty changy-hopey things that make you swell emotionally and just feel happy (as your back pocket gets emptied)?
This election is about you and who you trust. Do you trust those who tell you what you don’t want to hear? Or those that tell you nice things you secretly know are absurd fantasies?
Posted by: redherkey | September 18, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
Limbaugh is Limbaugh, since when has he become the beacon for inmigration?? or are Republicans living in another world? I am sure he has said worse things. This faked outrageousness is sickening, most Americans are tired of the Republican’s games. It is the truth, so let it be it!
Posted by: carmen | September 18, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
Scooter Libby did not expose Plame as a CIA agent – as a matter of fact the law as it is defined did not apply (she had not been a covert agent in quite some time)”
She was covert at the time.
WASHINGTON – An unclassified summary of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame’s employment history at the spy agency, disclosed for the first time today in a court filing by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, indicates that Plame was “covert” when her name became public in July 2003.
That is why Bush pardoned him.
Corrupt treasonous Republicans.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
Make up your mind Obama. Who you running against?
McCain, Palin, Bush, Limbaugh?
What a looser!
Posted by: Phillip | September 18, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
The vast majority of illegal immigrants don’t want to be American. All they want is the money and the benefits. Hospitals near the Mexican border are closing at a staggering rate because they can not afford to handle all the illegal immigrants who don’t pay for medical care. The taxpayers end up paying the bills. More than 50% of latino immigrant students drop out of school. The taxpayers recieve the bill for that education and end up paying more down the line for jailing them when they commit crime, paying for children they can’t afford, giving them unemployment checks and on and on. Stop the illegal immigration madness!
Posted by: IllegalsOUT | September 18, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am
Obama’s not truthful!? Wow imagine that!
He will NOT fight Pelosi/Reid on anything – What change?
I love his new level of politics, just like I love his use of public funds, just like I love his caring for the samll people with Hollywood.
I hope he loses, but if he should win, boy his admin will really be something. Maybe Rev. Wright will be appointed Senate Chaplain?
Posted by: Docc | September 18, 2008, 4:47 am 4:47 am
If pointing out the truth is being in the tank for McCain, that really says something, doesn’t it?
Posted by: moptop | September 18, 2008, 5:26 am 5:26 am
The hate and the behavior of the left and its media are despicable. It’s incredible to see the purveyors of tolerance — be so intolerant and vicious. RUSH stated he never said those things and I would believe it. I hope he handles this legally.
Posted by: Terri E | September 18, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am
One of your comments above displays the Republicans as; racists, biggots, etc… What the writer of this comment must know is the fact that Democrats throughout American History have been the most racists, starting with the fundation of the KKK, they shut down the Human Rights Amendment twice, they used welfare to keep minorities in bondage, also, listen to what Democrats have said about African Americans, Latinos, and everybody else. The racist vitriol from these Democrats is perverse, and disgusting to say the least. So, get a little more informed about your so called Democrat friends.
Posted by: Gabe | September 18, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
The man that out-sleazed the Clintons, and people are surprised at some stretches of the truth?
Posted by: Dave | September 18, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
How is it unfair to link John McCain to Rush Limbaugh. McCain has already flip flopped on just about every issue the conservative talk lynch party media didn’t like. He made a VP pick in order to placate them. And the conservative lynch mob spends all their on air time making unfair attacks against Barack Obama.
They are all carrying McCain’s water now so in reality Obama is running against McCain and the Conservative Talk Radio Lynch Mob.
They always talk about the Main Street Media being in the tank for Obama but the Conservative Media “IS THE TANK” for John McCain and will do anything, say anything, run over anyone to help McCain win this election.
Posted by: Brad | September 18, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
Ah…another great move by the new beacon of ‘hope’, the ‘one who will unite us all’, the messiah! This is a move by the socialisty Obama that Chavez would be proud of. Viva la revolution! “Chains You Can Believe In”.
Posted by: Phocus | September 18, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
Each day I keep wondering how much lower the “left” and the Obama campaign can go, and each day they provide me the answer. I USED to be a Democrat, and I step back and ask myself, “Was I that mean”? I don’t think so. This election has brought out the “meanest of the mean,” and I don’t think I can ever got back to the Democratic Party after this.
Posted by: Toni | September 18, 2008, 6:34 am 6:34 am
Thank you Jake.
You may well be the only unbiased journalist left in the mainstream media.
Posted by: Tversky | September 18, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am
Obama needs to stop stereotyping Mexican Americans. Ethnocentric , racist groups such as LaRaza, LULAC, MALDEF, etc. don’t rule Mexican Americans–in fact, all the Mexican American friends I’ve had during my long life have nothing to do with those groups.
Obama seems to think that if you’re Latino, you want millions of people who disregard the rule of law and push aside millions of Latinos who file their papers aside to be given a free pass.
Mexican Americans aren’t stupid. They, like other Americans realize that cheap labor will also depress their wages. There’s no magic barrier that will protect Mexican Americans any more than any other ethnic group.
Amnesty is going to bring about a tremendous wave of more poor and uneducated people through chain migration, opening the floodgates .Our social benefits can’t keep up with the demands, nor our ability to supply the schools, bilingual education, hospital care, food stamps, etc.
Obama is going to wreck this country even more than it is with his “social engineering” philosophy. Those entitlement groups he champions have to have somebody to pay the bills and the entitlements are outstripping the workers. There’s going to be a revolt in this country if this insanity isn’t stopped.
Posted by: TrishG | September 18, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am
Yo Obama why not talk about your involment with Fanny and Freddie that little debacle has cost us a fortune, but your doing okay with your $ 126,000 dollar donation to youe campaign. You say McCain got money too.? well your correct he received a whopping 21,000 a far cry from yours, Dodds amd the other guy who lost in 2004 I can’t remember his mame thats how important he was lol
Posted by: Spudder | September 18, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am
I think McCain is being alot more upfront in this campaign than Sen.Obama. and all Obama does is take cheap shots at McCain. I realize its an election and both parties can get pretty desperate, but it seems to me more or less Obama is underestimating the inteligance of the Hispanic community, by running this ad. I realize McCain has an Spanish-language ad running as well, but it doesn’t seem like he’s taking things so horribly out of context in order to make Obama look bad. Like comparing McCain’s politics to that of Rush Limbaugh’s….whom has never agreed with McCain on his immigration policies….its all pretty lame…
Posted by: JetLiDragonFIghter19 | September 18, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am
This Obama guy sure knows how to bring the people of America together doesn’t he? How? By spreading lies in order to inflame racial tensions? This is what Obama cut his teeth on, beginning in his Chicago “organizing” days.
I am so disgusted by these tactics and I will never vote for a man who endorses them.
Democrats have completely lost any higher ground that they may have once occupied.
Posted by: Mary Lou | September 18, 2008, 7:39 am 7:39 am
This group pays COs to register Democrats and this week in Michigan has once again been charged with voter registration fraud.
Chez, He not only waffled on it.
In IL Obama voted against life saving measures for infants born alive after
abortion procedures.
Posted by: redryder | September 18, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
Good analysis, Jake. All of this goes to character. When I see vile, race baiting ads like this, I ask myself: Do I want Obama and his campaign thugs administering my country? Instead of pointing fingers, everyone should judge the character of the candidates by the way their campaigns are conducted. Obama, in particular, claims running a campaign vouches for the executive experience that he otherwise lacks. Therefore, he must assume full responsibilty for what emanates from his campaign organization. The campaign IS Obama. Choose wisely when you get in the voting booth. It’ll be four, perilous years before you get to choose again.
Posted by: jcarob | September 18, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
How is this any different than the BARRAGE of lies and obfuscation from Obama from the very beginning?
Posted by: JSmithCSA | September 18, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Obama is desperate to make a lying ad like this. Bye bye big guy.
Posted by: bonnie dudley | September 18, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
Obama endorses allowing illegal aliens to get US driver’s licenses. This is FACT. For those of you who are New Yorkers, you will remember our former, disgraced Governor Elliot Spitzer also pushed this incredibly inane proposal only to back off from it after a resounding NO from the citizenry. Of course, the mainstream media will not bring this to the forefront for obvious reason: it would hurt BO.
Posted by: quatty1 | September 18, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
The hate from the left in this country is unbelievable. We are clearly two nations. One a socialist group who dishonor our country and the second who want ethics and morals to our principles.
Posted by: tk | September 18, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am
it’s pathetic- neither party had the nerve to even mention illegal immigration at their conventions for fear of being labeled racist..
but how is it racist to want to enforce the laws of this country and have only LEGAL immigrants coming to our country?
i want a candidate who will say what is RIGHT instead of living in fear of losing votes and being mis-labeled…
and shame on Obama for this ad..im not racist if i don’t want illegal aliens in my country, just as not voting for Obama for president doesnt make me racist… but the Dem’s have already set that up as the excuse if he loses..
pathetic
Posted by: JIM | September 18, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
Senator Obama’s condescension and stereotypical categorization are becoming legendary. First he assumes that all women want on demand abortion and that’s the only issue they’re interested in. Then he adds education to get women to vote for him, like men aren’t just as concerned about education while still assuming that women aren’t interested in the same issues that men are. Now he adds to his repertoire the indication that he believes all Hispanic-AMERICANS want open borders. Why should Hispanic Americans be less concerned about border security than the rest of us? Most commonly it’s the jobs of undereducated hispanic workers that illegal aliens are taking. Obama seems specially adept at lumping people in nice neat little groups and assuming that he can play to each on the one or two issues they care about. …. That use to be called prejudice.
Posted by: Oonogil | September 18, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
If you are a Latino and here illegally, you won’t like this post.
Why do any people here illegally belong to stay here? We are a nation of laws which for the most part all of us follow. Why anyone here illegally should be afforded protection or benefit from this country is beyond me.
Why should these illegals be allowed drivers licenses, welfare benefits, social security or any other federal or state funded program benefits if they have broken our laws?
You or I would not be afforded these if we illegally entered Mexico, in fact they would deport or incarcerate us.
Try going to Canada illegally and see what happens, you will be arrested but, not here in America. We have got to get our southern border secured or we can expect more thugs, rapist and general criminals that are allowed to enter and stay here in our country.
Bottom line if you are here illegally you violated federal immigration laws, that’s why we have them.
Stop this madness!
Posted by: Independent minded | September 18, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
Typical lawyer behavior – make an inflammatory accusation. The resulting objection won’t matter because the charge is made and those to whom it is directed won’t be able to read your rebuttal in English anyway. If there are racists in this campaign, they are in Obama’s camp.
Posted by: Patty | September 18, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Railing against NAFTA in 1993, Limbaugh said, “If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine ’cause those are the kinds of jobs NAFTA is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I’m serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.”
Not one of his most eloquent moments, to be sure, but his larger point was that NAFTA would mean that unskilled stupid Mexicans would be doing the jobs of unskilled stupid Americans.
I’m not going to defend how he said it, but to act as if this was just a moment of Limbaugh slurring Mexicans is not accurate. Though again, certainly if people were offended I could understand why.
Posted by: vin | September 18, 2008, 8:33 am 8:33 am
Obama has fallen to a new low. From hacking into Pailn’s emails and mis quoating Rush….the guy is a bad piece of work.
Posted by: walliat kahn | September 18, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Railing against NAFTA in 1993, Limbaugh said, “If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine ’cause those are the kinds of jobs NAFTA is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I’m serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.”
Not one of his most eloquent moments, to be sure, but his larger point was that NAFTA would mean that unskilled stupid Mexicans would be doing the jobs of unskilled stupid Americans.
I’m not going to defend how he said it, but to act as if this was just a moment of Limbaugh slurring Mexicans is not accurate. Though again, certainly if people were offended I could understand why.
Posted by: vin | September 18, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am
Thank you Mr. Tapper for pointing out the truth. Finally, someone in journalism is digging and doing the hard footwork required to illuminate this campaign.
Posted by: xcept4alltheothers | September 18, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Reading this article, and the comments to it, makes me realize just how out of touch is mainstream America with the situation of Hispanics in this country. I’m not talking just about undocumented workers (who some people here like to call “illegal”), but even Hispanic US citizens like myself. We love this country, help it grow, and still are not allowed to be part of it. This needs to change, so that America can be a better place for EVERYONE. McCain, for sure, would do nothing to change that. I believe Obama will at least try.
Posted by: Maria | September 18, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
WHEN OBAMA’S LOSING, HE PLAYS THE RACE CARD…..TIME AND TIME AGAIN. WHAT A SAD, SORRY LITTLE MAN HE IS.
Posted by: Indievoter | September 18, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Even someone who attended 5 colleges in 6 years would know that the Democrates exported a majority of their racists to the Republican party in 1948. Go to the comments section of Red State and read what Republicans really think of African-Americans and Latinos. Its rich, the republicans have discovered the evils of sexism and racism in this election cycle. That’s some conversion. No matter, it will be gone by November 5th, either way.
Posted by: Scott F. | September 18, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
roger: you said: “The Democrats are the liberators of the downtrodden and working classes”
yeah they did such a good job in the civil war when they fought for slavery…and established jim crow laws, and supported the KKK like good old Robert Byrd, DEMOCRAT senator from west virginia.
the democrat party has always been about keeping people dependent, either on the plantation owner, or the government, so they have power over people’s lives…which is what the democratic party is all about.
Posted by: t | September 18, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
You folks who made negative remarks about Rush clearly haven’t listened to the guy. How do you judge the man without listening to him? Do you choose your friends based on someone else’s opinion? If you did then you wouldn’t have any friends. Listen to him for a while (I KNOW you haven’t)and decide for yourself. Take this advice from a guy that voted for Dukakis.
Posted by: ScottA | September 18, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Obama is another attorney and I am sick to death of having attorneys in the white house. I hate the way they run campaigns…it is just about manipulating the jury (electorate) to believe your case. Pure competition. No moral standards. Thanks for writing this article!
Posted by: Patricia | September 18, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Obama’s campaign is certainly revealing itself as part of the dirty Chicago political machine it’s always been. Middle America sees it for what it is.
Posted by: Shaker | September 18, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Great reporting, Mr. Tappert! You dug thru layer after layer of information, and gave a pretty balanced, nuanced presentation of the facts.
I think our political process could only benefit from more scrutiny like this, directed at the ads and statements of both parties. Maybe then they’d learn to stop taking cheap shots and start working on solutions to our problems.
Posted by: Matt Dooley | September 18, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
If Democrats did not lie and call names, they would have no campaign ads whatsoever.
Posted by: Boy | September 18, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
When will obama finally go away? Here in OHIO, we plan to send a strong message on November 4 that we do not like his kind of politics. Hopefully we will never have to see his lying, cheating, unAMERICAN politics again – go away obama campaign and take your dirty, cheating DNC with you!
Posted by: Jenny | September 18, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Hopefully Obama doesn’t stoop to the depths of lies and mud that McCain/Palin have been indulging in. She STILL talks about her heroic stopping of he Bridge. We have had 8 years of this nonsense. Let’s hope we don’t get another 4.
Ever notice how many things Obama has mentioned/advocated are actually being followed NOW by Bush? N. Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq. The financial metldown was being addressed by Barack years ago while McCain just kept deregulating and deregulating. Anybody concerned about the national debt? Not McCain.
Posted by: ron | September 18, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
Great job reporting! Now if only the rest of your network was like that.
Posted by: Anthony | September 18, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
Once again Obama proves himself out of touch with the American people and only relating to extreme left wing Democrats. The uproar of the AMERICAN people over the Senate vote on the amnesty bill should have told Sen. Obama that Americans don’t want illegal aliens to remain in the US. I guess the left wing wants cheap labor for the Heinz tomato patch. Before that the good senator didn’t notice that the Supreme Court agrees with 73% of the American people that the DC gun ban was unconstitutional. He supported it anyway as well as the Chicago ban and while in the Illinois state legislature he voted for a similar state wide ban. He never noticed that the Clinton gun ban caused the Democrats to lose control of Congress. Now he claims to be pro-Second Amendment. Obama will say whatever he thinks will get him in the White House so he can work for the extreme left wing, ignoring the rest of us, Democrats and Republicans.
Posted by: Oonogil | September 18, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Obama is catering to illegal aliens and says that McCain favors closed borders. …. Where can I get a McCain bumper sticker?
Posted by: Oonogil | September 18, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
So what if Sarah Palin went to 5 schools in 6 years. So did my younger sister in the ’70′s. She was the baby and becomae homesick every time. Didn’t mean she was stupid or dumb or a social outcast.
As far as Hipanics, I am white, female, Republican. I also have a Mexican son-in-law and 5 beautiful grandchildren, and a great-grandchild whose mother is Mexican/White and whose father is Korean/Black. Think this white female Republican is biased?
Posted by: mathladysv | September 18, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
What is most interesting in these comments if the viciousness of the attacks from McCain supporters. The hatred and fear literally jump off the page. I have found, little to no useful info, nor have I found impassioned support of their chosen candidate. I do see a lot of people accusing Obama of being racist. That tack seems to be a hallmark of recent attacks from the right, accuse your opponent of your own weakness or fault, thus making his argument sound trivial.
Posted by: Jaemes | September 18, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Let’s turn the tables for out of context quotes. Here’s my question to Obama answered by his own words.
“So Senator Obama you’ve been very successful and have a great income now what do you do with all that spare cash?” From his book: “I buy some blow”. That’s cocaine for those who don’t know. Why don’t we just call him Blow-bama? If a DUI from 22 years ago by the Republican VP’s husband is relevant why isn’t cocaine use by the Democrat Presidential candidate? For the same reason the opiate shots given daily to a sitting Democrat President are irrelevant (JFK). Or the fact that Clinton sexually harassed and employee (where’s the lawsuit Monica) and lied about it to federal investigators (a felony). Because the truth doesn’t matter to liberals. That’s why they hate the ten commandments. Thou shalt not steal. Confiscating private property is the cornerstone of liberalism. Ask Hitler, ask Mussolini, ask Stalin, ask Chaves, ask Mao, ask Fidel, ask Putin…
ks
Posted by: KenA | September 18, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
You people really have a nerve! Obama has be a gentlemen though this entire election. I guess it was ok for McCain to say that Obama wanted to teach kinderg. about sex! Give me a brake what good for one is good for the other, it’s called equaility!
Posted by: Emilianna | September 18, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
Just an interesting article
Posted by: Nate Bukaty | September 18, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Why is it considered politically incorrect to speak the truth? I am glad that someone in the main-stream media actually acknowledged that Rush Limbaugh was taken out of context, but this reporter still had to sit on the fence and say that he can understand why people would still be offended by his comments. The fact is that when compared as a whole, Mexico’s workers are NOT as skilled and not nearly as educated as the American workforce. That is not an opinion to be offended at, that is a fact. If the Mexican people do not like that fact, it falls on them to pull their country in a way that will facilitate a more skilled and educated society. But before that, they may need to address the rampant corruption that dominates their governments. Who knows. I could be just being politically incorrect about that as well.
Posted by: OBAMA '0NEVER | September 18, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
‘Railing against NAFTA … Limbaugh said … [s]killed workers, educated people are going to do fine cause those are the kinds of jobs NAFTA is going to create.’ One does not ‘rail against’ that which one supports.
Rush supports NAFTA, and does not ‘rail” against it. I thank the author for pointing out the misleading commercial Senator Obama is running in Spanish, but even he seems incapable of listening to what Rush actually says. He also is a lacking a sense of humor, incapable of recognizing parody and sardonicism.
The Bible uses parables to teach the masses; it is an effective technique to using the absurd to bring insight to the contemporary.
Posted by: cj | September 18, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
So what else is new? Obama is the two-faced one. Typical, accusing others of being liars, and then lying through their teeth. Hey, ALAN COLMES, you Hack, are you getting this?
Posted by: Jim in New mexico | September 18, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Obama & Axelrod soy muy malo – y locos, tambien.
Posted by: Speedy | September 18, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Emilianna said: “I guess it was ok for McCain to say that Obama wanted to teach kinderg. about sex! Give me a brake what good for one is good for the other…”
Maybe Obama should be teaching you the correct use of the word “brake” and how to spell “kindergarten.”
Posted by: Keith | September 18, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Obama & Axelrod soy muy malo – y locos, tambien.
Posted by: Speedy | September 18, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Looks like B. Hussein’s getting desperate. He lies, mocks and takes others’ words out of context, trying to revive his dying campaign.
Posted by: More conservative than Rush | September 18, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
What goes around comes around. This AD is all truth nothing but the T-R-U-T-H. I LOVE it, LOVE it, and LOVE it. It’s about time that someone stands-up for the Latinos and others that contributed so much to this great Country success. They need to be appreciated also for their great work. Everyday, their main topic on and off air is on Latinos and other immigrants who don’t look like them. November the 4th is the verdict day. Arriba, arriba Obama!
Posted by: FirstDudeNot | September 18, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
good luck getting fact-checking like this into the headlines. the ad will run, people will remember the hate, and the obamabots will stampede to blogs like this to say how much ABC hates obama…just b/c someone “outed” another hate ad by this “change” guy.
there are plenty of ranting, hateful, idiots on the democrat side, i don’t see republicans tying those idiots directly to obama, and it wouldn’t make sense they tried it either.
are the level headed dems or repubs going to ever stand up and say enough?
Posted by: randf | September 18, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
race baiting, absolutely appealing to the most base emotions. Typical Liberal ploy, no logic or reason — just emotional and reactionary.
Posted by: step | September 18, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Illegal immigrants, are, just that, Illegal!!! Criminals!! Now you have Obama asking them to perform even more illegal acts by voting for him.
Yes, I know …. they came here to work and make a better life for themselves. That is all well a good, when it is done LEGALLY!!! But, by doing so illegally, they are no better than the drug dealers that ‘are trying to make their lives better’, while poisoning our children. And where do most of those drugs come from? Same place(s)!
One of the biggest reason that we have an ILLEGAL immigration problem is the bleeding heart liberals who think that they can fix the woes of this world. They will do anything they can to fix everyone else’s problems (including giving illegals a safe haven on the U.S. taxpayers’ dime). I do not feel the need to teach my children spanish in the public schools (at the expense of the taxpayer’s again) to make these illegals feel more at home or comfortable. First of all, they are not ‘at home’, and I want to see them so damnned un’comfortable’ that they will want to learn the language and become legal citizens or to go back to their real homes in whatever country they come from (Mexico, Honduras, etc).
Illegal is just that …. Illegal, criminal, AGAINST THE LAW!!!! And now BHO wants them to vote (illegally) for him!!!! What message is he really sending?
Posted by: jim144 | September 18, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
If ABC and the networks think that this ad is dishonest, then DON”T RUN IT!!!!!
Posted by: tjsmith | September 18, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
I’m a supporter of Obama, but this was a stupid ad. It should be pulled immediately. It dilutes his brand.
Posted by: ChrisNBama | September 18, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
As a conservative, I’m embarrassed with the campaign McCain has run. His terrible pick of Sarah Palin showed how unserious he truly is and unready to lead.
I’ll be pulling the lever for Obama this fall.
Posted by: Mort | September 18, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
FirstDudeNot, you’ve got it all wrong. I guess you’re one of the people who thinks it’s ok that illegals collect social security without paying into the system. You probably are also the same person who thinks it’s ok for an illegal to posess a valid US driver’s license and to receive free health care that US citizens are denied. As a decendent of LEGAL Mexican immigrants, something needs to change in this country. I’ve had my identity stolen by an illegal. I know the consequences of illegal immigration. Educate yourself. It’s time we reform immigration. Viva McCain.
Posted by: Pinky | September 18, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
I was supporting John McCain until he sold out and started his barrage of negative ads a few months ago. I could never vote for him now.
Posted by: Dave88 | September 18, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
Tapper points out that tying McCain to Limbaugh is unfair. I fail to understand how this is a “factual problem”.
Second, McCain did cave to the Limbaugh wing of his party on the matter, so the connection is obvious.
Posted by: AvidBlogReader | September 18, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
The amazing drop in McCain’s numbers these past few days show that people are wising up to the idiocy of the Palin pick. A know nothing, wacked out, fundamentalist who doesn’t believe in dinosaurs, thinks that the “End Times” are upon us, and giggles that she “can see Russia from my kitchen”?
I was considering voting McCain, but this seals the deal. No way.
Posted by: KerryM | September 18, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
The average Limbaugh listener is a little smarter than the average liberal. Listening to satire sharpens the brain because it in thinking humor, not the pie in your face specialty that Democrats specialize in – example the Fowlers of South Carolina.
Posted by: Dave | September 18, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
MORT, MORT, MORT, you posted:
“As a conservative, I’m embarrassed with the campaign McCain has run. His terrible pick of Sarah Palin showed how unserious he truly is and unready to lead.
I’ll be pulling the lever for Obama this fall.”
You would insult the intelligence of even an illegal immigrant who doesn’t speak English with this. You are no more a “conservative” than I am the Queen of England and you’re not fooling anyone any more than the rest of the Obama plants here saying “Oh, I was going to vote McCain, but not now ooooh he picked Palin, yuck.” Palin has fired up the conservative base. It was with Palin’s pick that the conservatives finally became interested in this election. A conservative unhappy with McCain may stay home in November, but never vote for the Socialist Obama. So, MORT, nice try but, it didn’t work.
Posted by: reagle80 | September 18, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
I’m a fairly liberal guy, but i must admit our economy cannot afford Obama’s plan. Normally, i’d be all for them; National Health care, etc. RIGHT NOW, we need pragmatism, and Obama does not offer that. He will spend us into chaos on the streets as i see it. I’m really disappointed that nobody is calling for Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Charles Rangel to step down from their committee chair seats. Just google their wikipedia profiles to see what they’ve been up to, i implore you. it pains me to admit if they were republicans, they’d be crucified in the press right now, but get nary a mention right now. I’m switching to McCain.
Posted by: Nairb | September 18, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Wow, I just learned this morning that John McCain was the head of the Commerce committee in the Senate that DID NOTHING to avoid the financial mess we’re in now. Guess he was right when he said he knew nothing about economics.
All along I’ve been thinking McCain, but this is really a game changer. Looks like it’s going to be Obama for me.
Posted by: Leslie | September 18, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Dave:
What does “because it in thinking humor” mean?
Your brain sure is sharp!
Posted by: Joko | September 18, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
What’s particularly interesting is that anyone who questions Palin’s experience is actually insulting Obama. After all, it was Obama who took pains to argue (incompetently) that he has more experience than Palin, because Palin “only” governs a gigantic state, while Obama manages a big ol’ Presidential campaign. Thrilling, no? In other words, Obama’s own argument is that the Democratic A-game is just about as good as the Republican B-game. And they say this guy is a good speaker.
Here’s an idea, Democrats: If you actually want to win, why don’t you nominate a moderate instead of the most liberal person in the Senate? A trash can filled with smelly rainwater could have won in 2004, but no: let’s nominate a Massachusetts Democrat who secretly met with the Viet Cong in Paris during Vietnam! Brilliant! And when that fails, let’s double-down in 2008 on a guy with no executive experience who is a product of the legendarily corrupt Chicago Machine and pals around with unrepentant domestic terrorists like William Ayers. What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Rory | September 18, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Can anyone deny that McCain was forced to do a 180 degree turn on sensible immigration reform led by the popular uprising almost ocmpletely stoked by the xenophobic rants of Russ Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs??? There are two McCain faces and the hispanic voter already knows that. One tried to fix immigration and the other ran like a little coward from the humane solution because of hate mongering radio and TV pundits. The hispanic voter knows he did this so that he can get elected. Those are the two faces that all of the Hispanic community recognizes. They understand it very well, even if you don’t and it drives them nuts. If Obama dramatically reversed his position on FISA clearly because of MoveOn.org and the DailyKos it would be appropriate to create an add showing those website’s attacks on the compromise and then associating Obama with them. Sorry if the DOS CARAS ad was not “nuanced” enough. As McCain has often said “Politics is a tough business”
Posted by: Carlos | September 18, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Rory:
“governs a gigantic state”
47th out of 50 in population.
Posted by: Joko | September 18, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Why should anyone be shocked or surprised by what the Dems are doing . . . their always accuse their opponent of doing what they are, to create a diversion
Posted by: pipian | September 18, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
I’ve read that linking McCain to Limbaugh is “unfair”. Can it also be said that linking Obama to something Bill Ayers said in 1971 and repeating it over and over and over again is fair or even relevant? Remember, Limbaugh was off on a Oxybinge on 9/11/2001 and called into the person hosting with the following quip: “Somebody told me it had something to do with Clinton, heh, heh, heh”. I’ve listened to this guy since 1989. He does go off the deep end a lot and some of his chickens are coming home to roost.
Posted by: DW Griffith | September 18, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Leslie, McCain DID try to push through legislation in ’05, which was largely blocked by our dem leadership. Look no further than Barney Frank. He pushed an agenda of “affordable housing”. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bought up bad house loans (example: person with $30000 a year salary getting a $200k loan with no up front money). There is the problem. i feel like my head has been in the sand for a long time.
Posted by: Nairb | September 18, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Once again, Obama shows us exactly how “hope & change” play out.
Same old political slander, same out of context quotes to twist the meaning to fit.
I really did have hope that he was different, that he was going to change, that he could make a difference, but with this and so many other ads of his, he’s showing us that he’s entrenched in the politics of the past.
If I’m going to be forced to vote for the old political machine, I’m going to vote McCain. At least that way it will be somebody with experience and not just rhetoric.
Posted by: Ted | September 18, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Besides party affiliation, income, and years spent flummoxing what’s the difference between Barack Obama’s, Rush Limabugh’s and John McCain’s slander? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????
Posted by: DW Griffith | September 18, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
I guess obama should just bring a broomstick to a gun fight. If you’re upset at this ad, then surely you have a lot to be upset at McCain for. Sure – the ad is less than stellar. that’s not the point in politics. Sure – this is not what Obama preaches. But at this point in the game – you have to win to enact the change. I have seen MUCH MUCH MUCH worse from Mr maverick. You should take issue with him using a woman the way he is using Palin. That would be SUBSTANTIVE anger. This is fake.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 18, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
gdixon Perhaps you meant MORT, whose post I was responding to, and I agree, there ARE Obamaites here pretending to be disgruntled “conservatives,” but their words betray them. No conservative would EVER vote for Obama; he is the extreme opposite of conservatism, and Palin is the one thing that has gone right for conservative this election season.
Posted by: reagle80 | September 18, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
reagle80// “Wow, I just learned this morning that John McCain was the head of the Commerce committee in the Senate”
John McCain hasn’t been the Chairman since 2005. As I recall, in 2006, he and others tried to call for more insight to Fannie and Freddie. The bill never made it out of committee because of Senator Dodd, a democrat. So enough B.S. from both side, Republicans and Democrats, would be nice. Niether side is a saint, but they are both pretty full of fecal matter right about now.
Posted by: W B | September 18, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Awwwwwwwwwwwwww, did little Johnnie get upset with an Obama ad that comes a wee bit close to stretching the truth? In the context of the crap the desperate McCainites have been putting out this is relatively tame!
Posted by: JerryG | September 18, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
All I have to say to all of this is….
if you want to re-elect Bush….then vote for McCain.
Posted by: justme | September 18, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Two things:
One, thanks to Jake Tapper for exposing that the Obama campaign is not even attempting to be factual while smearing McCain as “dishonest.” Both campaigns are stretching the truth, as is unfortunately the case at this time of an election year, but Obama is the only one pretending that the other candidate is a “liar.” Classy.
Posted by: Hello | September 18, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Okay, Joko, Thank you for informing me that there are different rules for cable than network TV. Now, I AM in awe! And, I neither watch nor donate to the 700 club, I just understand the basic rules of appropriate public decorum…and the fact that the one using expletives is losing the debate.
Posted by: reagle80 | September 18, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
here’s an approximate quote from Akio Morita, co-founder of Sony. He said — this is not verbatim but close — “The thing that will eventually doom much of American business is that your executives pay no price for failure. You can become CEO of a corporation, do everything wrong, drive your company into the ground and then retire and buy several mansions with the money they will pay you for doing this.”
Posted by: DW Griffith | September 18, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Obama sent Kennedy out to Cali to campaign for him during the primaries to win over Hispanic voters because he was part of the MCCAIN-KENNEDY Immigration Bill. I guess Obama’s two faces are stupid and dishonest. I don’t agree with McCain on some of the positions he took in the past, but at least he took a position and has some type of record of trying to make life better for people.
Posted by: ExDem | September 18, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Sarah Palin: GOD WARRIOR 08!
Posted by: reagle80 | September 18, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
I just LOVE the new politics Obama has brought to his campaign. Obama, we LOVE you! – signed, Fannie and Freddie.
Posted by: Barbara | September 18, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
I’ll make a deal with you. You say the country is going nowhere because of Bush. I say it’s because of the democratic congress. How about you put Obama in the White House and the repbulicans in the Congress. Lets face it. That’s why our country did so well in the 90′s. I say lets go back to it.
Posted by: W B | September 18, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Illegal entry = criminal, what part of that don’t you understand? ‘Oh we’re all god’s children’, god’s children break laws = law specific penalty is on the books and is enforced – not ‘let’s make something up because THESE criminals are really just ‘good hard working people’. ‘But we must keep families together’, criminals are in jail not with their family. Criminal aliens OUT. Other countries protect their borders, other countries don’t allow the bs of ‘anchor babies’. USA = soon to be 3rd world in your neighborhood if you don’t wake up.
Posted by: boohoo | September 18, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Is it just me or are the Republicans starting to freak out with their plummeting poll numbers now that Palin has been exposed as a know nothing fraud and McCain as a liar?
It’s ok, guys. There’s always 2024
Posted by: Merry | September 18, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Is Sarah Palin really a ‘God Warrior’? What does that mean? Sounds a bit scary.
Posted by: Merry | September 18, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
I saw John McCain this morning on TV and he seemed to forget what Spain was and whether they were actually a country in Europe.
Posted by: Herb | September 18, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Jaemes wrote:
“I do see a lot of people accusing Obama of being racist.”
Could you please identify all those Republicans who you claim are calling Obama a racist?
I’ve heard President Clinton accuse Obama of playing the race card against him, but I having heard either Clinton or anyone outside of the Obama supporters accusing Republicans of calling Obama a racist.
I’m comfortable in saying that if the McCain campaign or any other major Republican spokesperson were calling Obama a racist, they would be toast in the MSM.
BTW, Obama’s new ad is race bating.
McCain did modify his priority on illegal immigration from amnesty to security, but only after one of the largest public outcries in recent history against the amnesty option. Our politicians are supposed to be representing the people,so why isn’t it OK to modify your personal position to be more in line with what the public is demanding? It’s called representative government. Besides, McCain has never abandoned his goal of providing amnesty for illegals; he has only said that border security must now come first.
Posted by: FMB501 | September 18, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
The top 3 Fanny contribution receivers: Dodd, Obama, Kerry.
Posted by: ladster | September 18, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Want to be a true patriot and save our country? Vote for, and elect, Obama!
Posted by: Republican | September 18, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
“Wow, I just learned this morning that John McCain was the head of the Commerce committee in the Senate that DID NOTHING to avoid the financial mess we’re in now.”
Well, genius, the Commerce Committee has no jurisdiction over the financial services industry, so McCain’s chairmanship is irrelevant.
He did, however, support the GSE regulatory reform bill that could have done something about Fannie/Freddie had it been done soon enough. The Dems blocked the bill’s passage for several years because of their insistence on a ridiculous “affordable housing” fund that would have been funded by Fannie’s and Freddie’s profits.
Well, the bill finally passed this summer, too little too late to save Fannie and Freddie. And the bill includes the Dems’ precious affordable housing fund. Only problem is, there are no Fannie and Freddie profits to fund it.
Posted by: Shawn | September 18, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Wow! A properly researched piece of journalism from a guy in the MSM. Kudos!
Posted by: Ricardo | September 18, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
I’m no longer voting for Obama. Even donated and attended 2 rallys in Michigan. Two weeks ago, my wife and I removed the yard sign and bumper sticker. He is campaigning like mafia. Stick to the issues. Stop the smears and the lies!
Posted by: Ron | September 18, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
IllegalsOut has the facts wrong. Several studies have shown the unemployment rate, the crime rate and the use of public services rate is much lower among those here illegally.
Posted by: Gary D | September 18, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
I think Obama’s untruthful attacks against McCain and Palin are the most vicious I have ever seen. So much for Mr. New Politics. What a joke. This guy is corrupt from top to bottom and just look at where he comes from to prove it. Chicago and Cook County are sick and more of their Democratic politicians need to be locked up. Obama is a complete fraud and Trojan Horse. Wake up, America, before it is too late.
Posted by: Seattle Conservative | September 18, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Ryan, it’s okay to quote Rush Limbaugh’s sarcasm, just don’t try to spin it by not describing it as such.
Posted by: creed | September 18, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
It hardly matters what McCain thinks about illegal immigration. If McCain should be elected, we will have a President Palin within those four years. And Palin and Limbaugh are in complete agreement on most everything.
The ad may have been the wrong pew, but it was sure the right church.
Posted by: Dema | September 18, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
“And the most important “issue” in a campaign for a voter to do is to look at the character of the candidate’s advocatory supporters”
WOW!!! You mean like like Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, Wright,Farrakhan, Ayers, and COUNTLESS other radicals, Marxists and anti-semites from the fringe who are only NOW coming to light? IF the ad’s defenders REALLY believe that, then Obama deserves to lose many times over.
Posted by: daliscar | September 18, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
It is amazing that they are saying this about McCain. Because of his stance on immigration, almost the entire Republican base was against McCain and refused to support him.
The Libs like to look at other countries when writing and interpreting laws so I say let’s use Mexico’s laws for immigrants word for word.
Posted by: Richard Cole | September 18, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Didn’t you read the article. Tapper doesn’t say so but the Obama ad on the sex ed bill (and Factcheck.org’s poor research and analysis on that particular ad – they usually do better, even if they tend to ignore a lot of Obama stuff) is just another example of Obama calling people liars while being dishonest themselves.
Another example was the Obama campaign suggesting David Freddoso of National Review was lying when he pointed out that Obama had supported a tax hike on people with taxable income above $32,000. The Obama people even brazenly quoted factcheck.org without pointing out that the article in question there made the point that the number was taxable income (while justifiably criticizing a McCain ad on the issue that conflated taxable income with gross income). In other words, they distorted an article to smear a political correspondent as a liar. Sound familiar?
Posted by: ME | September 18, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Just yesterday I scraped the McCain sticker off the back of my car. McCain’s smears, lies, and unfounded attacks (not to mention Palin! Don’t get me started…) have led this long time Republican to vote Democratic for the first time in 25 years. John McCain is a disgrace!
Posted by: Lawrence Gregory | September 18, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
“McCain started it”…uh, right. Who has been saying these gems forever:
- McCain thinks you have to make 5 million a year to be rich
Class warfare much? Of course he was joking, but that doesn’t matter.
- McCain thinks we should wage 100 years of war in Iraq
Scaremonger much? Yes you guessed it, he was making the point that we have troops in long term non-combat engagements in a lot of places.
I guess those weren’t working, so he recently took a different tact:
- he’s old and can’t use a computer or send an email
Take a look at his record before making dumb claims. Actually, just use some common sense: old voters are way more reliable than young voters when it comes to voting…good decision disparaging McCain’s age Barrack.
Now we have this ad…yeah, he really sounds different then other politicians. Oh wait he doesn’t sound different AND he doesn’t have any experience…and you Democrats wonder why you never win Presidential elections.
I could go on, but I tire of this.
Posted by: Troy | September 18, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
So far the only “change” I see about Obama is that he is slicker than many politicians when weaving his mistruths and smear campaigns.
Wake up, please! Before you vote for this man based on celebrity endorsements, media bias and the bias to be politically correct, look at Obama’s record – not his website. Look at the state of Chicago, which is deemed more dangerous than Iraq by many local people. Don’t let the media tell you what’s true – because 95% of the time they are biased and slanted in this election. For the sake of our country and for our children, PLEASE take the time to do independent research and learn what a disaster Barack Obama will be for our country.
This is not the time to vote on party lines, for any of us. McCain and Palin aren’t perfect, but they can cross those lines to make things better.
Posted by: traci | September 18, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
I believe we are heading down a road we do not want to travel at this time.
I predict that the minority leaders in this country are going to scare most conservative voters away right before the election. They will point out there will be riots in the streets if Obama is not elected.
We are already starting to hear rumblings of this here in Dallas. I just hope that somehow Obama is able to stomp this down.
Posted by: WJ | September 18, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Sarah Palin is a third wave dominionist evangelical who believes in her heart that she has been chosen by God to lead the nation straight into the apocalypse.
I know. I used to be in her church.
Posted by: Josiah | September 18, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Is Rush Limbaugh not a Republican?
Has McCain not switched his position on immigration to that of Rush Limbaugh?
End of story.
Posted by: HeavyJ | September 18, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
“If McCain should be elected, we will have a President Palin within those four years.”
Um, do you have some information that you should share with the Secret Service? Or is this just the usual, morbid death-watch crap that you folks always engage in with older people who don’t have a D after their names?
Posted by: Shawn | September 18, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
The Rapture will be upon us soon. It is truly the End of Days.
Posted by: Sarah | September 18, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
WHat is this fox news. Whats with the fair and balanced stuff Jake. Who the hell you voting for. Im so confused
Posted by: Mike | September 18, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
How stunningly refreshing to see something fair and balanced by a Main Stream journalist!!! I nearly fell over. Thank you for setting the record straight, Mr. Tapper! Can you get the rest of the MSM to do the same?
Posted by: MildforMcCain | September 18, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Obama is a shameless liar trying to manufacture a race war.
Posted by: Tom Penn | September 18, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Why is anyone here so surprised??
Destortion of the Truth coming from both candidates is what it is.. Political Spin. OBama Campaign seems to believe the uneducated and Stupid Mexicans will believe these lies and vote for the Democratic leader, but wait, if they are illegal aliens, how can they vote in the national elections? Ask ACORN and the many D party vote troopers that are getting anyone and everyone to fill out a voter reg. card, then taking those registration cards and requesting absentee ballots. No real controls there for validating voter registration and absentee ballots.
A very scary reality and a desparate attempt by the party to get Obama elected. Check out the voter registrations in each state, notice the numbers.
Posted by: FireBreath | September 18, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Josiah – Obama’s own preacher, Rev. Wright was quoted in the NY Times a few weeks ago saying that Obama was told by God to run for office – he’s very open about how his Christian faith has influenced his life and speaks of it more than either McCain or Palin – so what’s the difference? Palin is no more radical in her beliefs than Obama is in his.
Posted by: Wiley One | September 18, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Obama needs to falsely attack because he has no experience to speak of. We need change; they all want change, and change. Change is not always good. If you are married and then divorced that is in fact change. I eat well…but if food is taken away I’ll starve…hmmm more change. I think the one I like hate most is when I go to the store…I hand them a $20.00 and I get back “change” wow…we give Obama power and our hard earned tax money and all we’ll have is change. Obama, shame on you for taking quotes out of context and lying to your followers. If you are indeed the second coming of Christ then act more “God Like” Misleading Hispanic voters…shame on you their smarter than that.
Posted by: Robert | September 18, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Obama needs to falsely attack because he has no experience to speak of. We need change; they all want change, and change. Change is not always good. If you are married and then divorced that is in fact change. I eat well…but if food is taken away I’ll starve…hmmm more change. I think the one I like hate most is when I go to the store…I hand them a $20.00 and I get back “change” wow…we give Obama power and our hard earned tax money and all we’ll have is change. Obama, shame on you for taking quotes out of context and lying to your followers. If you are indeed the second coming of Christ then act more “God Like” Misleading Hispanic voters…shame on you their smarter than that.
Posted by: Robert | September 18, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Jake – thanks for digging into something and going somewhere – unlike 99 percent of your colleagues… Good job.
Posted by: Steve-O | September 18, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
I was impressed with Obama when he first started campaigning. Not now. All you ever here from him lately is McCain this and McCain that. What a disappointment he is! What a turnoff! He is more “politics as usual” than most politicians. I may have to hold my nose to vote for McCain, but at least I know what I’m getting. With Obama, every day is a new surprise.
Posted by: sharon | September 18, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Thank you for information in your well documented and thoughtful article. I appreciate your professionalism.
Posted by: Dan | September 18, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Few people are anti-immigrant – even Rush is not anti-immigrant, but most rational people are anti-illegal immigration – including the thousands of legal immigrants who work for Border Patrol, Customs and in other law enforcement fields who believe very strongly in enforcing the law. Anti-illegal sentiment is not about racism, and efforts to make it so usually backfire. It’s about the law and fairness and protecting Americans.
Posted by: Just following along | September 18, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
If this is what Americans think is sleazy campaigning, then we really don’t know anything about our history. Post-1950 American presidential elections have been tame affairs compared to our earlier elections. This ad would hardly register as a blip on the historical scale. The fact is that both Obama and McCain are decent people, but they are politicians. You don’t make it to the US Senate without playing at least a little dirty. It’s all politics and at the end of the day (unlike with Bush and Gore) Obama and McCain will still like and respect each other.
Posted by: Brett Champion | September 18, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Jake, McCain used to have a decent stand on immigration, but he caved to the right wing on this as on so many other issues (torture among them). So this is a fair attack. McCain has sold his soul to the devil.
Posted by: Ruth | September 18, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Wow !! At that time, Obama did write book for making money or was “DID-NOTHING SENATOR” with smoking of Marihuana when McCain-Kennedy(=McKennedy)Bill that The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007, or, in its full name, was a bill discussed in the 110th United States Congress that would HAVE PROVIDED LEGAL STATUS &
A PATH TO LEGAL CITIZENSHIP for approximately 12 million illegal immigrants currently residing in the United States. If Obama forget the
bill, McCain-Kennedy which was proposed by John McCain and Ted Kennedy who suported himself,Obama should would become really “DID-NOTHING SENATOR,DO-NOTHING CANDITATE, AND DOING-NOTHING PRESIDENT”. I just hope that Hispanic choose for a right candidate who had worked so far and will do for you.
the facts that the BILL which 15 Mil illegal immigrants
Posted by: Jung -NY | September 18, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Why isn’t the MSM exposing Obama’s campaign lies the same way it did last week with respect to McCain’s ads? Perhaps they are too busy covering the pep rallies and cheerleading that Obama is doing in response to bad economic news. He and his staff appear to be delighting in this awful news. But Senator Obama has already shown he will do or say anything for political gain.
Posted by: Former Democrat | September 18, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Just yesterday I scraped the McCain sticker off the back of my car. McCain’s smears, lies, and unfounded attacks (not to mention Palin! Don’t get me started…) have led this long time Republican to vote Democratic for the first time in 25 years. John McCain is a disgrace!
Posted by: Sarah Jones | September 18, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Sarah Palin is a third wave dominionist evangelical who believes in her heart that she has been chosen by God to lead the nation straight into the apocalypse.
I know. I used to be in her church.
Posted by: Josiah | September 18, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
RE: Posted by: Nairb | Sep 18, 2008 10:45:13 AM:
“Can it also be said that linking Obama to something Bill Ayers said in 1971 and repeating it over and over and over again is fair or even relevant?”
No one is doing that – your getting your facts mixed up. Bill Ayers BOMBED Gov’t buildings in 1971, in 2001 – while a friend of Obama’s – he said “he wished he’d done more” bombing and felt it was right and justified.
Mr. Obama can and should be held accountable for what his friend said while he was Obama’s friend. Where was Obama on 9/11/01? In Chicago, with his friend Bill Ayers, managing a charitable foundation, IIRC…
Posted by: KenNJ | September 18, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
WOW…Obama up +4 in the latest Gallup tracking!
Oh my!!
Posted by: Sherry | September 18, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Nice piece of balanced reporting. The new Obama ad shows you how desperate the Obama campaign is. And by tying McCain to Rush he (Obama) is essentially calling Hispanics dump, stupid and ignorant because he is assuming that any Hispanic that is legally registered to vote will forgot that McCain wants to provide amnesty to all illegals. And I, as a conservative who fought against McCain’s original bill, am under no illusion that just because McCain has moved border security to the forefront of the illegal immigration issue that a President McCain will not revisit the amnesty provision in the future. That said I am voting for McCain for president despite knowing I will have to gear up in the future to fight his efforts to give millions of law breakers a free get out of jail pass. One final point: Obama is playing the race card again by inferring McCain is a racist. Tying McCain to Rush on the immigration issue is like saying I am not voting for Obama because he is black. I am not voting because he is a liberal. Hopefully the Hispanic community will see the same thing and voter for McCain.
Posted by: John | September 18, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Nice piece of balanced reporting. The new Obama ad shows you how desperate the Obama campaign is. And by tying McCain to Rush he (Obama) is essentially calling Hispanics dump, stupid and ignorant because he is assuming that any Hispanic that is legally registered to vote will forgot that McCain wants to provide amnesty to all illegals. And I, as a conservative who fought against McCain’s original bill, am under no illusion that just because McCain has moved border security to the forefront of the illegal immigration issue that a President McCain will not revisit the amnesty provision in the future. That said I am voting for McCain for president despite knowing I will have to gear up in the future to fight his efforts to give millions of law breakers a free get out of jail pass. One final point: Obama is playing the race card again by inferring McCain is a racist. Tying McCain to Rush on the immigration issue is like saying I am not voting for Obama because he is black. I am not voting for Obama because he is a liberal. Hopefully the Hispanic community will see the same thing and vote for McCain.
Posted by: John | September 18, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
I have been so disgusted with the mainstream media in the past several months.It is so very obvious they are pushing the democratic ticket. Hail to Fox News, the only major news media that presents a fair and balanced report of political news. I am a registered Democrat who will be voting for McCain and Palin. I was shocked to see Jake’s (ABC’s) story and “telling the truth”. Although, he’ll probably lose his job at ABC. I will never watch Oprah again, I despise and will never again watch “The View” until they rid themselves of the pig in lipstick, Joy Bahar. Barbara Walters has some nerve grilling people who have lived a much cleaner, respectable life them her and didn’t have to write about it to make money.Elizabeth is the only one on this show with an once of intelligence an compassion for others. The other ABC personality that I have lost respect for is Charles Gibson. His unfair and harsh treatment of Sarah Palin was hard to watch and I totally lost my my respect for him. Charlie, you’ll never be as good as Peter Jennings. Jake, I hear Fox News is hiring !
Posted by: hartmatters | September 18, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Amazing that a month ago I was all for John McCain and had maxed out to his campaign. That was until his pick of Sarah Palin. As a Jewish American with strong ties to Isreal, I cannot under any circumstances support a candidate who wants to “convert” me to Christianity and who blames the Palestinian attacks in Tel Aviv on “God’s Will” because Jews don’t believe Jesus is the savior!! Oy vey! This woman is a schlemiel if I’ve ever seen one!! It’ll be Obama for this Alter Kocker!!
Posted by: Mort in Fla | September 18, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
I support Obama but agree that this ad is unfair by linking McCain to Limbaugh and by taking McCain’s remarks out of context. I hope someone from Obama’s campaign reads this blog and removes the ad as soon as possible.
Posted by: Katia | September 18, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Thanks for the well-balanced article. Obama’s ad is clearly a slander on Limbaugh and should be pulled.
Posted by: Jack Wilson | September 18, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
falsedad total
Posted by: mostcurious | September 18, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Speaks volumes that so many are amazed someone at ABC would actually report the facts when it would inure to the benefit of a Republican. Is there a spark of objective journalism left in the print and tv media corpse after all? How low have we sunk in this country? We have accepted as mainstream the candidacy of a man whose philosophical and political milieu includes bigoted anti-American ministers, communist ideologues, and a man and woman whose resumes include terroristic acts of bombings within the U.S. That’s the tip of the Obama iceberg. But don’t speak of it, might be perceived as intolerant instead of actually garnering information about who this candidate is. And why are we citizens and legal immigrants of every background afraid to say : “No, you can’t” in response to: “Si, se puede” to men and women who cross our borders illegally? John McCain, agree with his efforts or not, was front and center in attempting to reform the illegal immigration mess. Obama, as usual, was sitting in the peanut gallery fired up and ready to go…….nowhere.
Posted by: ad | September 18, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Why is it unfair to link McCain and Limbaugh on immigration? True, McCain, at one time, took a principled stand on immigration reform, but he backed away from it in the primaries in order to curry favor with the hard right – including El Rushbo. In fact, back when immigration was still a hot issue in the Republican nomination contest, McCain said in one of the debates that he would no longer vote for his own immigration reform bill. At the very least, this suggests that McCain is more than willing to abandon immigrants when it suits his political needs.
Posted by: KiprMich | September 18, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Rush is pro Republican = pro Mccain. I am glad that Obama tied the two together because they are inseparable. Rush pushes the Republican agenda with lies and disortions. I have lost all respect for Senator Mccain he will do whatever it takes to win even if it means selling his soul to the Devil. He talks about helping the “American” people when he surrounds himself by the failed CEO (who happen to think he and his running mate can’t run a corporation), lobbiest and crooks. He is out of touch and has no clue about the economy. He is a LIAR!
Posted by: heidi | September 18, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
I will never vote for anyone who panders to Spanish speaking voters. This is America, not Mexico!
Posted by: Aaron | September 18, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
It’s amazing that the lefties actually try to justify the blatant lies in Obama’s ad. If the substance of the ad is correct, why not use legitimate facts rather than distorting actual facts and taking statements out of context? You know how you can tell Obama and his campaign are lying? Their lips are moving.
Posted by: rich | September 18, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
My God people, you are missing the point! First, this is real journalism. Well researched, and newsworthy. Second, the article is actually well written. The article is easy to read, well constructed and flows from thought to thought in an orderly manner.
Obama’s ad was misleading yes. Politicians lie, yes. Whoever said politicians of any party were trustworthy and intelligent? I’m just happy to read a real news article.
Posted by: u4prez | September 18, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Kudos to Jake Tapper for a well-balanced look at this issue. The Obama camp is definitely trying to wage a disinformation campaign in this election on several levels; when they are attacked accurately they fib and try and portray the ads as “lies”; they then follow up by committing even more egregious acts of fibbery themselves.
This ad is one example, but so are the misleading statements about Sarah Palin and Israel.
To any undecided votes reading these threads, just one suggestion: go back to original source materials to check the statements of the Obama campaign and its surrogates. I am confident that you will find them to be trying to mislead you on almost every subject. From that point I believe you will make the right decision on election day 2008.
Posted by: HTL | September 18, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Jake, I must admit I need to keep more than a single column scoring of your writings as I have seen some of your other columns fail to demonstrate rational analysis. It appears you have done your homework this time to reveal the truth, which is something other reporters are failing to do in this election cycle as they pass obsessive rumors and phony pictures of a single VP candidate rather than research and fact check on all the candidates. The underlying problem is this election is going to get worse as each candidate will open the doors to their mud pit and the throwing war is on for the next seven weeks, without the voter or media to have the time to differentiate between fact and fiction. The biggest liar (with the most money) might win, to all our peril.
Posted by: Tapper gets it right | September 18, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Obama is such a hypocrite. One day he’s shouting enough, then next day he lies and distorts…in Spanish of all things. Typical.
Posted by: chris | September 18, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
If Rush were pro Republican, as “Heidi” proclaims in the previous post, he wouldn’t bash Bush like he does. My point is not to defend Rush but to say that the previous post’s equation falls apart before it even gets started.
Jake, Thank you for presenting context and facts for those of us who choose to us our reason.
Posted by: seeclear | September 18, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
A sterling example of Limbaugh agitprop-thinly veiled raw racist sentiment in the guise of “satire”-these ads are absolutely accurate-McCain sponsored immigration reform until Limbaugh activated his thralls and forced Mccain to capitulate at the risk of torpedoing his presidential aspirations. You seem like a smart enough guy Tapper and it’s really not that difficult to grasp, so I’m curious: why don’t you get it?
Posted by: J Gamble | September 18, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Alright now, who put the truth serum in the ABC water cooler?
Posted by: DaMav | September 18, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Thank God we have the Messiah to “rise above the old politics” and usher in a new era of civil discourse. Whew!!!
Posted by: Vince | September 18, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Good solid article, Jake Tapper has been solid this entire election. This man is informative!
Posted by: Mike | September 18, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Thank you for an impartial article.
It is so depressing that this Chicago Thug, Barack Obama, stand an even chance of getting elected President.
The man has no honor.
I fear for this country.
Posted by: ckblv | September 18, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
We conservatives scared McCain into backing off the giveaway to illegal aliens and now he has his head on straight. Obama wants no national borders. Remember, he is going to be citizen of the world and president of the world. This clown with zero credentials to lead anyone would destroy the entire fabric of this nation. He actually wants to provide massive welfare to poor people from other nations. Deep down he really hates what this country stands for. It is obvious when looking at his radical background. Wake up, Americans!
Posted by: Seattle Conservative | September 18, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Well done Jake!
Thank God, for trust-worthy journalists like yourself!
Posted by: Josh | September 18, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Mr. Tapper, please introduce yourself to Mr. Gibson and offer to show him the ropes of investigative journalism. It is nice to see a U.S. journalist actually do their job, instead of ‘play act’ and get paid for it! I think both political parties has it’s shysters and make poor mistakes, I just appreciate having the actual facts in front of me to make up my own mind. God may be my Shepherd, but I am no sheep!
Posted by: silverleaf | September 18, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Some of you seem to forget why McCain backed down on his own immigration and reform bill…we the people spoke up and told him that we didn’t want it. McCain wanted to give the illegals everything and the conservatives, including Rush, stopped him.
Posted by: Texas#1 | September 18, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
So is Gibson of ABC ( All Barack Coclave) going to say that Barack’s ads are LIES???? That will be a revelation in Journalism which has been Missing…
Posted by: redhawk | September 18, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
As a McCain supporter back in 2000 who had to bite his lip for 8 years, while the likes of Limbaugh and his conservative pals have eviscerated McCain for daring to so much as breath across the isle, I am amazed by this bizarre line of attack.
As late as a few weeks ago Limbaugh was still playing his hateful little parody songs about McCain, and has constantly and personally attacked McCain for a decade, convincing us that McCain was some sort of traitor to Republicans for working across the isle in 2001.
McCain has been an enemy of that crowd for a decade or more, and anyone who has ever bothered to listen to Limbaugh’s program prior to the last few months knows Limbaugh is no friend of McCain. Limbaugh supports McCain because he considers the other option to be even worse than McCain.
Obama was so inspirational and fresh and new in March. He promised us that he would end the old politics – to the point where many of us rooted for him over Hillary specifically because we hoped he could end the uber-divisive politics that the Clintons brought to Washington in 1992.
So much for that. Barack has dos caras.
Obama has often mentioned that the Republicans were going to launch racist attacks on him – which of course they never have. Now he as good as claims McCain cavorts with anti-hispanic racists. But the real racism in all of this is the racism in assuming that the Spanish speaking community is so ignorant and stupid as to fall for such nonsense.
Kudos to Tapper for calling him out on this one – he deserves a real media skewering for this, but he won’t get it because of the Obama love-fest.
Posted by: Jason | September 18, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
WHOA…STOP THE PRESSES. It’s a bird…a plane…a NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN AD! The GOP mastered this now suck up and master the boomerang effect. The Easter Bunny is tougher than you whiners. What happened to all of your tough cowboy gun talk?
Posted by: SoWhat | September 18, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
As a Democrat and Latino I was insulted by Obamas ad.
The fact that he feels he can lie to us and use us in such a manner is dishonorable.
Latinos were not amused by his pandering and will be thinking twice about whether we should vote Democrat or not.
This advertising is not being embraced by the Latino as expected. Most that I have spoken with find this ad and the association it impies disgusting.
Obama will be losing ground fast in our community especially since the trust level toward him is marginal even though our majority is Democrat.
The only Democrat that we trusted was Senator Clinton, and we were trying to embrace Obama but his latest ad was an insult to the intelligence of Latinos everywhere.
Posted by: John Archer | September 18, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Seems more like Obama and McCain are reluctant to anger their campaign contributors, many of whom rely on cheap immigrant labor to keep their profit margin up.
Posted by: Anne | September 18, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Jake Tapper, “JOB WELL DONE”.
Posted by: ragjz | September 18, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
This ploy will cost Obama some votes.
Posted by: david | September 18, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
As a Latino, I’m proud to say that Barack Obama is the ONLY candidate I could ever endorse. It’s well known that the Republican Party is the party of racists. They’ve grown exceedingly corrupt over the years as well.
Obama ’08!
Posted by: Jose | September 18, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Ask Palin/McCain why so many GOP elected officials are perverts. Ask her to pray for these corrupt losers.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 18, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Whoa…I really was spooked today when I heard the recording of John McCain “forgetting” what or who Spain is. That’s the way it started with my Grandpa and the next thing we knew he thought it was 1929. I was strongly leaning McCain, but I’m going to have to go with Obama now.
Posted by: Jan | September 18, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Goes to show that if Obama’s claims and comments are outrageous enough, even network news will back up McCain. I’m pleased and amazed. Thanks ABC
Posted by: Chebacco | September 18, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
As Teddy Roosevelt once said, (paraphrasing here), No one who considers themselves a hyphenated American should ever be elected President of the United States of America. **Amen**
Posted by: L. D. George | September 18, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
For all of you so upset and insulted by Obama’s “misleading” ad, please don’t hold your breath until McCain stands up and clarifies for the American people, and particularly the Latino community, his true position on immigration.
Posted by: plz | September 18, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Refreshing from a member of the MSM (or DBM, to quote Limbaugh).
The fundamental point to recognize here is that Obama and his advisers are merely being true to their values. Specifically, the primary value for a liberal is power not truth. Truth is nice if you can use it to gain power, but if truth is not helpful in gaining power, it is easily expendable.
Thus, lying about McCain or dishonestly distorting others’ statements is not wrong for the liberal because it assists in the goal of power–putting Obama in the White House.
Posted by: Alan | September 18, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Thank you ABC for finally doing your job. for the better good. Keep it up.
Posted by: Bob | September 18, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
“Second, McCain did cave to the Limbaugh wing of his party on the matter, so the connection is obvious.”
Well, Avid, if you consider reports that around 80% of the US population felt that way on the border security issue at the time, the “Limbaugh Wing” must be mighty big, must include a boatload of Democrats.
Posted by: Mark | September 18, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Thanks for actually reporting the facts! I am a McCain/Palin supporter. I would expect you to hold them to the same standard.
Its unusual for the establishment media to take a Democrat to task. How refreshing to see real reporting from an alphabet network.
Posted by: Lloyd | September 18, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
I hope Obama gets called on this cheap attack like McCain has been attacked for suuposedly stretching the truth.
Let’s face it — that Bill of Obama’s was SEX EDUCATION — whether it was designed to prevent AIDS (Obama’s original reason for it) or child abuse (his new version). Amazing how the media wnet right along with the Obama campaign on this.
Posted by: Pete Kent | September 18, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
So much for Freedom of speech.
Posted by: SoWhat | September 18, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
WOW…Busted! This “ad” was an out right lie. How can I trust Obama again. I am really sick of Obama’s mean campaign…especially against women, Hillary was first to be slimed and now Palin. I’m with Trump, I’m switching from Hillary to McCain.
Posted by: Mary | September 18, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Well done Mr. Tapper and ABC for this information!!
What an extreme insult from the Obama camp to think they could be so deceitful in a Spanish language ad. What does this say about their opinion of Latinos? It’s going to be interesting to see if the Obama camp still runs this ad, even after the deceit has been exposed.
They might pull the ad due to the slander liability alone. Being served with a slander lawsuit might not be the result they intended when piecing this junk together.
Thanks again Mr. Tapper and ABC for making this information public.
Posted by: Interested08 | September 18, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
I support John McCain. I am not anti-immigrant, but I am against illegals living in the United States, and if more people were honest and not afraid of appearing politically “incorrect”, they would admit that they feel the same way. Why are we the only country who feels the need to apologize for wanting to control our borders?
Posted by: Lisa Again | September 18, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
It is pretty hilarious to see the media go out of their way to defend a racist scumbag like Limbaugh.
The FACT is Limbaugh is a huge voice of the Republican Party. The MSM reports on Limbaugh as though he is in touch with the Republican voters and nobody winces when he spews his vitriol everyday.
So now that Obama has called out the Republican Party for the HYPOCRISY in embracing Rush and reaping the benefits of his racism…he is at fault?
So it is PERFECTLY acceptable for Racist Rush to get on the radio day in and day out to inflame racial intolerance…it is PERFECTLY acceptable for the Republicans to benefit from this….yet it is WRONG for Obama to put their feet to the flame? lol…Give me a break…this outrage is a joke. And anyone defending Rush should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: UCLAdy04 | September 18, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Pete Kent – you are 100% correct about this. The “Sex Ed to Kindergartners” ad was indeed truthful. In fact, the original bill was amended to specifically INCLUDE Kindergarteners, when the information to be taught included STDs, contraception, sexual preference, etc. Anyone who wants can read this information in the bill proposal.
I’m not writing here to debate that bill – what I”m saying is, the ad McCain aired was totally correct and yet it was slammed by the MSM and called “a lie” on The View. Yet, the ad was actually truthful.
Let’s hope this Spanish Language ad, which IS full of lies, is given some attention by the same media.
Posted by: Interested08 | September 18, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Obama is completely out of control. All he does is attack. He even told his cult followers to “get in their Repupblican friends faces”. But he can’t even answer the question about what to do to save the banking insudtry? And he took 3 days to comment on the Russian Georgia invasion/occupation. He is clueless…just a stuffed shirt ith a chip on his shoulders!
Posted by: James | September 18, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
So much for the politics of Hope. Not only has Obama proven to be a first rate fear-mongerer, capitalizing on the latest financial crisis by preaching doom and gloom and “Blaming Bush-McCain,” for partisan political purposes, he’s proving that he doesn’t take a back seat to anyone in the sleaze category. But let’s face it, this is really the only way he can win.
The latest smear ad on Limbaugh and McCain is about the most divisive act of desperation I’ve seen in politics. This from the man who preaches the politic of hope and inclusion. This from the man who promises the nation that he’ll bring people together. This from the man who promises to end devisive politics. I’m an American with a Mexican background (Not a “Mexican-American), and I condemn Obama’s despicable devisive politics. Anyone who will take to time to learn the facts will ultimately do the same.
The real Obama has shown himself to be nothing more than a low-ife politician who wil do anything, say anything, promise anything, to be President.
God help us all if he wins.
Posted by: MSARM | September 18, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
(a) How is Obama’s ad portraying Limbaugh and McCain as immigration unfriendly untrue? McCain has flip-flopped on pretty much every issue of importance to Americans [case in point: Wall Street deregulation was his stance until 72 hours ago when he realized that this is an unpopular position during this election] and immigration reform is no exception. Just this past March 3rd it was reported [and I quote] “McCain went so far at a debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in January to say that if his original proposal came to a vote on the Senate floor, he would NOT vote for it.” So, today he is not for immigration reform that would help the Hispanic and Latino communities in the U.S.
(b) There is a saying “Tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are.” McCain chose Palin as his running mate. If you are a Hispanic or Latino living in the U.S., she is not good news for you. She is of the same vein as Limbaugh, believing that the ideal America is white & Christian, not diverse. If McCain does not subscribe to this idea, why does he have someone on the ticket who does? Talk show host Laura Ingraham stated on her radio show that she spoke with Palin, who told her she was against “comprehensive immigration” reform. The reason appears to be that this viewpoint will help pick up more GOP votes from those that oppose open borders legislation and comprehensive immigration reform.
If you are a Hispanic or Latino registered voter in the U.S., make sure to consider if the in the last 8 years change has been positive for the Hispanic/Latino community. If you don’t like the direction the country took with respect to the Latino immigration, then DON’T vote for McCain, as it will be more of the same. Not only is McCain wishy-washy on issues of importance to the American people bu he is also 72 years old, with serious preconditions, and if he were president and became incapacitated, Palin is it — and she is not a friend of Hispanics / Latinos.
Posted by: Marve1 | September 18, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Thanks for a great analysis. Do you think the (W)itches of the View will say to Obama: “Now Senator Obama, you ran ads that are untrue regarding John McCain.” I don’t think so. Their show should be called The Democratic View. Oh, and let’s hear it for Diane Sawyer ticking off the Mayor of Rome, New York for portraying his town as going down the tubes while there on the Whistle stop tour. ABC is now the All Barack Channel.
Posted by: J. S. | September 18, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
UCLAdy04: Your comment makes no sense. Just because you don’t agree with someone’s politics doesn’t mean they aren’t protected by slander laws.
According to your comment, Rush should be allowed to be quoted out of context and slandered in a public TV ad simply because you don’t agree with him?
Laws only apply to those you agree with?
Rush’s comments were intentionally taken out of context and aired in a public setting where their meaning would be misunderstood and damaging. If Rush wants to sue for slander, he probably has a pretty good case, whether the judge likes his politics or not.
Posted by: Interested08 | September 18, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
The fact is that McCain has backed away from his initial support for amnesty in order to court the extreme right in his party. Everyone knows that Rush Limbaugh belongs to that category. He has opted for an enforcement first approach which basically means that the ICE raids will continue for another few years till the border fence gets built. He himself has said that he will not vote for the CIR, which he drafted himself.
I do not consider McCain to be anti-immigrant or anti-Latino but he has caved in to the pressure exerted by the extreme right. A man who calls himself a maverick should have stood up to them.
Obama has been consistent in his support for amnesty and for improving the family based immigration system. He is only against excessive skilled immigration that might hurt the interests of the American workers.
Posted by: src | September 18, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Wasn’t Obama that talked about a civil campaign no personal attacks. This Spanish ad is completely false. Will the media state the facts. They do every time Palin speaks they come back with well that’s not completely true. Come on media this is the time to stand up for truth or show your complete bias.Today he’s telling a crowd to get in the face of the opposition.
Posted by: pohcd | September 18, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Sound bites- Does this ring a bell? Was this not something Obama was uttering over and over again when the utterances of his pastor surfaced. He did not approve of the use of these “Sound Bites”, yet now he is doing the same, but intentionally leaves out the punch line, “These are the Laws of Mexico.” When he was exposed the punch line was stated, “G–Damn America”.
The hollywood crowd-Lets consider what they do, they act, they live in the fantasy world of made up stories. They should be considered as responsible knowledgable individuals. Hey most of their talking points, scripts, are written for them, without the script most would be lost. Having them on your side could be not advantageous.
The ploy of using the ad was silly, in Spanish may be an affront to those immigrants that want to become Americans, those that are really trying to assimilate. Guess what, they are the ones that influence the ones who are here illegally. So the net result my just be more a negative than the positive that the Obama people had hoped for.
Posted by: Brian | September 18, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Bravo! I am not conservative or liberal (registered Independent) and have been sitting here in the bleachers watching the muddy tennis balls of mistruths being slung back and forth over the net.
Like many I am fed up with this campaign that feels like it’s been going on for a decade; and I am particularly disgusted by the outrageous lies, disgusting pandering, and blatant BS that keeps that muddy ball in play.
Reporting, such as Mr Tapper’s excellent piece, was like the ref calling the game on account of bald-face lying, and a change of balls!
Kudos to ABC for publishing this piece in spite of its usual Obama love-fest.
Posted by: DaveyDe | September 18, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
I see Obama has located another community he would like to organize. It looks like he will be using the same techniques. He will be using lies and emotional maniputlation based upon those lies. Be affraid America, this man is a smooth operator.
Posted by: ubu1991 | September 18, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Most of Obama’s ads are smears, 77% of them actually.
And Limbaugh kicks his cat across the room when he even hears the name McCain.
Its a good opening for McCain to reinforce his support for immigrants.
Posted by: s.b. | September 18, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
I will never vote for a black man who lies. It will not happen.
McCain has my vote because a black man in the white house will ruin america.
Posted by: Jesse Delgado | September 18, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Speaking of taking things out of context: unfortunately, it is a perception in America that showing strength means “getting down and dirty” in insults and jabs. Obama unfortunately has been engaging in a bit of this lately, but even if you’re a McCain supporter, you can’t say that McCain is innocent of this type of behavior.
Furthermore, during the Primaries McCain was postulating himself as a “maverick”, a different kind of Republican vowing to run a different kind of campaign. “We are running a different kind of campaign because John McCain is a different kind of candidate.” What exactly did he mean by that? It just so happens that we have heard that message before, from the Republican Party no less, when Bush styled himself as a “compassionate conservative” and a uniter in his 2000 campaign.
For example, how is it that day after day McCain-Palin go out with a straight face and say to prospective voters: “Obama and his liberal congressional allies want a massive government… billions in spending increases” including “painful income taxes, skyrocketing taxes on life savings, electricity and home heating oil…Can your family afford that?” Just today McCain said on the campaign trail that Obama “claims that paying higher taxes is ‘patriotic’”. Obviously, those remarks take the statements made by their opponents, Obama-Biden, out of context, too. When these statements were made, Obama-Biden said that taxes would increase for those whose income is greater than $250,000 per year [something McCain-Palin conveniently omit when they make reference to this issue]. And Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do “for wealthier Americans” which again, is a blatant omission.
So, if McCain and Limbaugh want to sue for slander / truth distortion / defamation / etc., let the fun begin.
Posted by: Marve1 | September 18, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Jake,
Thanks for pointing out who is running the ads with the lies in them.
Posted by: new republican | September 18, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Come on everyone, both candidates are vying for every last vote they can. Of course its going to be a slug fest. These two guys are running for President of the World. Honestly, I’m tired of listening to you all complain about one or the other. They are obviously both inherently evil candidates, who when elected, will push the agenda of their respected political parties. If you are upset about this, either turn off Faux News or vote for a 3rd party candidate. If you are unaware of what they stand for, take 5 minutes and look them up. It seriously takes that long to view their policies and voting records. End the corrupt injustice of a two party system and stop voting for the lesser of two evils. YOU ARE NEVER THROWING AWAY your vote by voting 3rd party because “he/she has no chance of winning.” VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE even if it is unlikely your choice will not win the election. Otherwise this government will continue to get larger, take more of your hard earned money, and slowly take away your civil liberties with the false promise of “security.”
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD WAR, OR A BAD PEACE.
AN EYE FOR AN EYE AND THE WHOLE WORLD GOES BLIND.
Posted by: jonathan fryer | September 18, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Obama, you are a disgraceful liar!
Posted by: Texan | September 18, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
I guess this is what Sen. Obama thinks is going to bring us all together.
If you win, you are going to inherit a very divided country, and I havn’t seen a shred of evidence that you have a clue what to do to bring us together, except to blame Pres. Bush for everything.
You may not know it yet, but the press will turn on you in a second, if it will benefit them.
Texas Biker
Posted by: txbiker | September 18, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Dear Mr. Tapper, I am only commenting to reflect sentiment for, tragically, what has become a real rarity in media, an honest presentation of facts…after all, that is, in my opinion, media’s greatest purpose: to keep politician’s honest. If, as BO has been demonstrating for months, politicians can say anything they please without honest, critical reflection, then what differentiates the media from being a news (an inherently unbiased term) reporting entity to a propaganda machine?
Posted by: Dr.Rob | September 18, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Hispanics and Latin American’s with the right to vote should think twice before voting for Obama. The man is disrespectful to his own race!! Don’t expect him to support any other minority when he won’t even support his own!!
And to those of you who hate immigrants just remember the the United States was a nation started by immigrants. Not all immigrants are unskilled; there are a lot of people up there that are actually hard-working individuals looking for a better tomorrow for their kids, and most importantly, they’re doing jobs that Americans and other minorities aren’t willing to do for very low wages. My advise…keep the hard-working ones, the ones that grew up and went to school there and get rid of those with a criminal record.
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Lil | September 18, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
This ad does indeed appear to be misleading.
It would be a pity if Obama descended to the level of McCain in terms of lies.
Though hardly surprising…
Posted by: John | September 18, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
A dishonest liberal. Big surprise.
What *is* surprising is a mainstream-media outlet actually reporting on this glaringly false political ad put out by this sham of a candidate.
I think hell must have frozen over.
Posted by: Yosemite Fudd | September 18, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
This is tricky:
If McCain ran an ad just like this against Obama (just as W and HW did against their opponents), it would probably not be shocking at all.
I think Dem candidates are held to a higher standard because conservative points are usually at least partially fear-based (fear of change/being wrong), which doesn’t require rational honesty, and progressive points more often involve overcoming a fear, and require careful and honest arguments to be accepted. All I want though is for Obama to win, please!!
Posted by: Dem | September 18, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
The ad by Obama was so disgusting and insulting I cannot believe even Rush could have said that, When it says, Stupid and unskilled Mexican,” but when it said “Callete el hocico y largate de agui.” this is so disgusting one would not even talk to a dog in this way. “it actually means (callate el hocico y largate de agui) shut your pig snout,and get the H. out of here.” this is the lowest of low insult in spanish. I am a hispanic and I know what this means.Obama, watch what you endorse, because this will bring you down. I know MCCain would not even conceive of speaking this way…..
Posted by: CMHinsley | September 18, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Mr. Tapper, Thank you for an intelligent and honest analysis. Hope you make it to the very top of your profession, you just might bring credibility back to the MSM.
Posted by: ReaganMan | September 18, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Refreshing to hear national news media in factual discussion! Cheers to ABC News! Take the lead, be fair, and win the millions of disillusioned readers.
Republican or Democrat we all benefit when we remove the hatred and bias. Demand the same of your candidate today.
Posted by: Frank C | September 18, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Whatever the issues are, it’s a breath of fresh air to see the facts reported clearly and without the sleazoid spin that so much of the American media is falling into in this election season. Thank you.
Posted by: carolyn | September 18, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Did Limbaugh say it?
Yes.
Is Limbaugh a McCain supporter?
Yes.
Is Limbaugh a proud representative of the Republican party?
Yes.
Will McCain stand up to racist anti-immigrant factions in the Republican party?
Why should we believe that he would?
Posted by: Not at all inaccurate | September 18, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Limbaugh was quoting BRUTAL MEXICAN IMMIGRATION LAW AND THE HOSTILE HYPOCRISY WHEN ILLEGALS PICKET OUR LAWS
Posted by: Raj Mujahadeen | September 18, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Let me express my personal admiration to the author(s). Actual reporting of facts is so refreshing! Honesty, intellectual integrity and fairness!! Wow! It’s been years since I’ve associated ABC with fair and factual reporting.
No sarcasm intended. Thanks for a good job of straight forward reporting.
Posted by: Bill Browning | September 18, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
In regard to Raj Mujahadeen post | Sep 18, 2008 7:07:50 PM:
Will McCain stand up to racist anti-immigrant factions in the Republican party?
I am a republican. I am not a racist. I support immigration. I am against illegal immigration from any country. If you want in to this country, do it the correct way.
Different rules for different people only apply to liberals. It seems they want everyone to be tolerant of them but they can’t stand it when others have a view that is different from theirs.
Posted by: Hank Taylor | September 18, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
This talk of taxing the rich by the democrats really bothers me. If they (the rich democrat lawmakers) really believe the rich should pay more why do they complete their tax returns by taking advantage of all the deductions available. If they really believe the rich should pay more just submit the tax return by paying at the standard rate. Example, John Kerry and his wife’s net tax liability was 12% the year he ran for President. Ours (my wife and I) was 22% and we made far less than the Kerry’s. There is no law that anyone has to take deductions when completing their tax return. Yes, I know there are rich Republicans that also take deductions but they aren’t the one’s clammering for more taxes.
Oh, by the way, I’m on Social Security and because of the Clinton tax on SS (the tie breaking vote was cast by Al Gore as VP)we seasoned citizens pay tax on a portion of what was supposed to be an untaxed retirement benefit according to FDR. Even during periods of Republican control of Congress the law wasn’t changed because the liberal repubs wouldn’t go along with the idea of repealing this tax.
Posted by: mountain grandpa | September 18, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Jake: Great job exposing Obama’s dishonesty! May your tribe increse!! I challenge you to keep getting more truth out there in the MSM regarding the REAL Obama. Please keep writing articles like this that show his true character (or lack thereof.) John Adams prayed that “only good and moral men” would live in the White House. It is my prayer, too, that men like John McCain, a decent and honorable man, who loves our country would be priveleged to own the title of president. Keep up the great work, please!!!!
Posted by: dawleymama | September 18, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Anyone saying that Obama is “race baiting” when it comes to Pills Limbaugh . . . well . . . that is hysterical in it’s absurdity. McCain is anti-immigrant and has tied his train to bigot central. Deal with it.
Posted by: Scy | September 18, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
I guess he did learn a thing or 2 from the Master Liar. McCain lies and his numbers goes up.
Obama lies…..
well, Obama stop it!
Posted by: MyAudacity | September 18, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Whoa…I really was spooked today when I heard the recording of John McCain “forgetting” what or who Spain is. That’s the way it started with my Grandpa and the next thing we knew he thought it was 1929. I was strongly leaning McCain, but I’m going to have to go with Obama now.
Posted by: Pari | September 18, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Is it just me or are the Republicans starting to freak out with their plummeting poll numbers now that Palin has been exposed as a know nothing fraud and McCain as a liar?
It’s ok, guys. There’s always 2024
Posted by: Lonn | September 18, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
McCain is no friend to Latinos and there are Dos Caras in the Republican campaign. I wish Obama’s people would demonstrate what a COWARD MCCain is with respect to immigration just so he can win the presidency. McCain was present in May when there was a revote on the DREAM ACT.Rather than have his vote registered McCain walked off the Senate floor so he would not have to vote. Too COWARDLY to support this humanitarian measure and too COWARDLY to face his fellow Republicans and try to persuade them to vote to give innocent kids a chance for lawful status.
NO TWO FACED COWARDLY MCCAIN, NOT NOW, NOT EVER! Another proud Latina supporting BARRACK OBAMA
Posted by: KICKBOXERMOMMA | September 18, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM….now let me see….McCain is a racist or bigot???? I think NOT! ! ! In this race the ONLY person out of ALL the candidates going all the way back to the beginning of the primaries that has injected RACE into the campaign has been……………… Senator Obama…..His latest attempt to divide us by playing the race card should not surprise anyone, let us not forget where he and his family spent their Sunday mornings for the past 20 years when they were in Chicago and attended church…He has no real plan for this country other than to steal more money from those who work the hardest to succeed, and give it to those who refuse to even try. Health care, education, housing…I cannot find ANY of those things in the Constitution…there are no guaranties here…no free lunch here, but the FREEDOM to pursue happiness and finacial freedom…we do not need or want govt run (re)education disguised as public schools, and top flight medical care torn down and ruined by govt mandated and required healthcare. These lastest smear tactics do not surprise me it is what socialists do to try and deflect the focus off of them when they are guilty. Shift the focus away from the questionable behavior they took part in and shift the blame to another person or party or race…WAKE UP AMERICA
Posted by: used to be a D now an I | September 18, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
I had to laugh at some of the sanctimonious comments because Obama has the audacity to link MCCAIN to LIMBAUGH and the right wing anti-immigrant rabid minions.Show your true face John McCain do you have the courage to stand up to your base on immigration now at this point in time and take on your anti-immigrant and no “amnesty” Republican platform. ….. Didn’t think so.
Another Latina for Obama.
Posted by: Si Se Puede | September 18, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Is this a joke or what? Palin lies-Bridge to Nowhere and that Barack is going to raise taxes for the middle Class. Palin believes Iraq is connected to 9/11. John McCain votes 19 times to oppose minimum wage, McCain has supported deregulation that has brought the U.S. economy to its knees, McCain’s immigration ads in Spanish pander to the Latino vote and would never be aired in English for mainstream consumption. This ad essentially links JOHN MCCAIN to the bigotry of the number one anti-immigrant proponent of the Republican Party the same Right wing base that John McCain so desperately wants and this is disingenuous. Quit whining you cry babies. Own up now to your wedge issued anti-immigrant past. If McCain choses to disassociate from this element then let him speak up now. Let him show some cajones.
Posted by: Virgohunter | September 18, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Excellent article, Jake Tapper! Thank you for pointing out the truth of the situation and calling Obama on the lies in this ad. Haven’t watched network news in years, but maybe I should give ABC a second chance.
Posted by: Dianne | September 18, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Aw come on folks are you kidding me. This is ridiculous. Did this hurt somebody’s tootsies? Sure it’s guilt by association but isn’t that the Republican way to question the person based on associations. The Republicans did it with that professor. The difference is Limbaugh IS a supporter and Limbaugh has said what’s in the ads and worse.
Posted by: tito | September 18, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Lies-Hardly. Now that Palin Bridge to Nowhere is a damn lie.McCain being a Maverick that’s another damn lie. This is only linkage to a Right wing group that McCain is groveling to get in his corner. Well I say take your rightwing base and forget about the Latino vote. WE don’t want you John McCain.(Except maybe the Cuban Republicans who had favored immigration benefits once they touched land in the U.S.)
Posted by: Yonari | September 18, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
I’m a republican. My wife, ours is a bi-racial marriage, is a legal immigrant. I am not racist, nor am I anti-immigrant. I am against people breaking the law, though. The immigration laws aren’t arbitrary. I’ve also worked on national security issues, and immigration enforcement is necessary not just from a security standpoint but also because of social welfare concers. Illegal immigration (as opposed to legal) has a net negative impact on my community and many others accross the nation.
For Barack Obama to pander to Hispanics by misleading them with inflamatory false quotations speaks volumes about his character as a person. This is whom we will trust to lead our diplomatic missions around the world?
Posted by: Brian | September 18, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
*Actually, in Spanish the word is *injusticia*
Posted by: Claire | September 18, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
In ’00&’04 bush spoke some spanish and courted the hispanic vote.When it was time to fix the illegal immigration issue,republicans backtracked & yes I have heard republicans saying worse things about legal&illegal mexicans,as far as sensitivity,all the complaints are coming from a party.
Posted by: gramatoncleric | September 18, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
As an ally of the U.S., I don’t know which is scarier: Obama’s obvious racism, or the seemingly-endless number of Americans who are being sucked in by this charlatan.
Sometimes the picture is more clear when you are standing outside if it.
Posted by: Leigh Patrick Sullivan | September 18, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
I just wanted to say thank you mr. tapper for telling the truth.I dont know that i will feel better about national media but i do feel better about your work.
thanks so much and keep up the good work!
Posted by: Doug | September 19, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Wake up Latinos!! This is clearly showing how Obama feels about us all. He wants your vote that’s all, once he reaches his goal he’ll forget about you. Mccain might be old but he has far more experience than Obama. Do you really think a President-in-training will help you at all?? With the way things are going on right now, you need someone with experience to lead you to a better tomorrow. Good luck!!
Posted by: Lil | September 19, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Nice job, Jake Tapper. And, thank you ABC for helping to set the record straight. Fair reporting, like this, will (hopefully) get recognition.
It is worth noting, however, that the comments from readers who recognize, yet condone Obama’s attempt to mislead, obviously do not listen to Rush Limbaugh on any regular basis.
If they had been familiar with Rush Limbaugh, they would have known that McCain’s viewpoint on immigration differs greatly from that of Limbaugh’s.
Posted by: cmgirard99 | September 19, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
This is the first race in memory where both candidates are scoring over 50% positives with voters. There’s no need to bottom-feed and muck-rake, and it’s clear here that Obama’s followers can have the truth placed square in front of their face and they’ll close their eyes and shake their heads. I may still vote for Obama but it might be more fun to see the look on Keith Olbermann’s face if McCain wins.
Posted by: JT | September 19, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
I have to love it. “Not one of his most eloquent moments . . .” Did Limbo ever have an eloquent moment?
Posted by: Matt | September 19, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Democrats inciting fear in a minority for votes? What? Who knew??
Posted by: What? | September 19, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Stupid ad to quote Limbaugh. Limbaugh isn’t running.
And it’s lazy: there is no need to lie about McCain: just the truth would do him in fine.
Party hacks running the elections… fooey.
Posted by: gberke | September 19, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
UNFORTUNATELY FOR McCAIN,THAT HOW WE (LATINOS) FEEL!
Posted by: Teresa Alves | September 19, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I’ll agree with you on the fact that a direct association with Limbaugh is tenuous at best, but I don’t think they were twisting Limbaugh’s quotes.
He was saying that he wants to treat immigrants like second class citizens. Whatever happened to the idea that we’re a nation of immigrants? “Give us your poor,…etc…” What Limbaugh was saying was, in my opinion, more objectionable than what the quotes showed.
I think too, that McCain is supporting these sorts of policies. Maybe old McCain wasn’t a bigot, but the jury is still out on new McCain. One thing is for sure, though, he certainly wouldn’t object to being put in office by a bunch of bigots.
Posted by: Patrick in CA | September 19, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Just a note, the Ad never says the McCain has anything to do with Limbaugh. Only quotes Limbaugh as a source of the insults mentioned. It doesn’t say McCain is doing the insulting.
Posted by: Association | September 19, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
No wonder they have a jackass for a mascot!
Posted by: starflyer | September 20, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
Mccain tries to associate the bank buyouts to Obama. How is this ad any different. Two wrongs dont make it right , but there are several ignorant people that cant tell the difference. So , stop crying. You have to fight fire with fire. Period
Obama 08
Posted by: Concerned AMerican | September 20, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
You people cant be this ignorant. Mccain has been spewing lies for the past two months. What difference is this from Mccain saying Obama supported sex education for kids. WAKE UP…Its going to get nasty
Posted by: Concerned AMerican | September 20, 2008, 9:35 am 9:35 am
The cost for health insurance premium: Senator and House of Representatives. Is it a token amount? How much are the payment?
Posted by: BJ Kay | September 20, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Wow Limbaugh supports Mccain..Hmmm so it must be true.. I always knew Obama would resort to full blown racism, But wait I think the best is yet to come..
Palin fixed roads, and infastrucure with the bridge to no where.. She never lied she says I said Thanks- No thanks DUH!!
Good Job reporting real facts on this story. I am proud of you.
Posted by: Debbie | September 20, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Rush is not running for president Mccain, and Obama are. A willingness to sacrifice the truth for ones political ambition speaks volumes about character or the lack thereof.
Posted by: arelvee | September 20, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Rush is not running for president Mccain, and Obama are. A willingness to sacrifice the truth for ones political ambition speaks volumes about character or the lack thereof.
Posted by: arelvee | September 20, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
It’s funny. Anyone who knows McCain like I do from C-Span knows this is totally wrong about him. Obama has no shame, he smeared Hillary up and down. He claims to be a nice guy but this is so stupidly dirty and ignorant that I think it will work. McCain has been doing outreach to the immigrant community for a long time. Heck, he is from a border state, like duh. Course, Chicago politicos who put ad together might not think about it, but what politician could get elected if they insulted their constituents over a course of decades?
So, in concluding, the left is desperate, on the ropes, the media isn’t telling the real popularity numbers about McCain/Palin and this will prolly be reported as fact.
I feel sad for you liberals, because you have to lie, smear, demonize other Americans just so people will elect you leftists.
Axlerod, Obama and Soros, you can’t win on your issues alone, no one likes them.
Posted by: my kol | September 20, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
It would be nice to get all the facts on both sides, without all the name-calling. Looking at the background of the four involved in this election, a McCain-Palin administration is much more likely to effect humane – and why not say it – Judeo-Christian immigration reform. The side which is against any good comprehensive reform if it hints of “amnesty” has to go back to its Christian roots. There’s plenty of hate on both sides, but the people who will effect reform are the ones who have character and have already risked their careers in going against their own party at times to work for the people. What’s most ironic is that most Spanish-speaking undocumented immigrants are more conservative in their family values, beginning with the pro-life issue. Their “spokesmen” from liberal college campuses, with some exceptions, seem to be using them to gain more power.
Posted by: D. Fontes | September 21, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
So Bush was bad because he divided us. Obama is good because he will unify us. Of course, he left out the “how”. We are now seeing the great unifier unmasked as just another politician, albiet with a radicalized agenda. The only unification will be the form you get in an autoctatic, socialist state.
Posted by: overlord59 | September 22, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
While it might not be right to link McCain and Limbaugh, they are in the same party. McCain has chosen to run his race as a Republican. This is who he’s gotten into bed with. Is it any less fair than Obama being tied to Raines or the Chicago Machine (Daly & others). If the Republicans are going to play guilt by association, why shouldn’t the Dems?
Posted by: Elizabeth | September 22, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Obama’s recent efforts are a sign of a floundering campaign. Obama just doesn’t want to be President bad enough. Proof of this: picking boring Joe Biden. The way to win: sack Biden (cook up health reasons), get Hillary as VP. Get new campaign strategists from ranks of Clinton veterans. Effectively take the initiative and hold on to it through Election Day. Result: President-Elect Barack Obama. Likelihood of Obama embracing *these* changes and becoming President? Zero. (Obama = Dukakis II) Likelihood of “President Sarah Palin” in 2012? 100%
Posted by: Stacy A. | September 23, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
about healthcare
Posted by: Terry | September 29, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
It’s funny to hear uninformed people call Obama a Socialist and many of them don’t know what a true Socialist government is. Hint, hint…the biggest “socialization” in HISTORY is one involving a $700B BAILOUT. Bush just nationalized (i.e., SOCIALIZED) the banking system! We villainize Hugo Chavez for nationalizing Venezuela’s oil industry, YET the US turns around and does the SAME THING. Does NO ONE not see the glaring hypocrisy in that???
The Republican Party of today is a grossly misguided joke. This ain’t your father’s Republican Party!
Posted by: VetForObama | October 14, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
This is just typical media spin in regard to politics. Both sides do it, and it’s disgusting. Too bad that there are many people that fall for that sort of thing and allow themselves to be influenced by it.
Posted by: Instant Immersion Spanish | September 12, 2010, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm