Gingrich: McCain Must Oppose Bailout
ABC News’ Teddy Davis Reports: Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Tuesday that President Bush’s proposed bailout plan is a "dead loser on Election Day" and urged Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., to come out against it, saying that the GOP nominee cannot be for it and maintain his claim to be a reformer.
"I don’t know how he can vote for this and with a straight face go around and say that he’s for real change and he’s the reform candidate," Gingrich told ABC News.
Gingrich’s comments were the latest sign that the presidential campaign could be upended by the Bush administration’s $700 billion plan to buy up and hopefully resell troubled mortgage-backed securities.
If McCain were to come out against the bailout plan, Gingrich said that Republicans would rally to his side and it would become possible for the McCain-Palin ticket to style itself as "taking on the Bush-Obama establishment."
"Either McCain is going to go along" with Obama in supporting the plan, said Gingrich, "in which case the establishment will have the fix in . . . or you are going to see McCain decide, much in the way that he did in picking Palin, that, in fact, he is a genuine maverick, that he genuinely defends the taxpayers, and that this is a terrible bill."
"If the latter happens," Gingrich continued, "I think you will see the emergence overnight of a ‘McCain Reform Wing of the Republican Party’ and you’ll see House and Senate members siding with McCain by overwhelming margins and then you’ll be in a very different political environment. You’ll have ‘Bush-Obama ads’ on the one side and ‘taking on the Bush-Obama establishment’ on the other side, and that will be, frankly, one of the more amazing elections."
Left unsaid by the former Speaker is the possibility that the bailout plan would simply die if McCain were to come out against it, which in turn, could deprive the McCain-Palin ticket of the opportunity to run against the "Bush-Obama establishment."
"If McCain doesn’t come out for this, it’s over," a top House Republican told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos on Tuesday.
Gingrich is against the bailout plan because he thinks it is "inconceivable" that the Treasury and Fed can manage Wall Street.
While coming out against the bailout plan, Gingrich forcefully rejected the contention that he favors doing nothing and laid out a conservative alternative.
Gingrich’s four-point plan includes: (1) suspending immediately mark to market provisions (the accounting practice of valuing a financial position in an investment at its current market price) in the hopes of stopping the downward spiral in asset values and eventually replacing it with a three year rolling average; (2) repealing immediately Sarbanes-Oxley, the 2002 accounting law Gingrich described as "an enormous drag on small business"; (3) setting the capital gains tax rate at zero "matching the Chinese and Singapore" (to encourage private capital to flood into the market picking up properties without the taxpayers being at risk); and (4) passing an "extraordinarily powerful" energy bill ("to return $500 billion a year to the American economy that are currently going overseas").
Gingrich spoke with ABC News in Washington, D.C., after participating in a polling presentation sponsored by American Solutions, the group he established last year which works to identify issues that have a majority support among Republicans, Democrats, and independents.
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It’s easy Newt, McCain IS now and has always been a DEMOCRAT!!! DUH! Don’t you ever get tired of this “RINO” insulting YOU and the American people? C’mon Newt, you know better!
Posted by: hmn | September 23, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
That Newt. And to think he was once satisfied just shutting down the federal government.
Posted by: ricky | September 23, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Repeal Sarbanes Oxley, open up drilling and both Enron and Ken Lay will rise up from the dead. Of course, given what has happened to the markets it will take a long time for a capital gains cut to have any real effect. People will be writing off this year’s losses for the rest of this decade.
Posted by: ricky | September 23, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
If McCain doesn’t come out against the bailout, he’ll show himself to be the Bush puppet that his detractors accuse him of being. I was encouraged by McCain’s initial stance against the bailout. Then McCain flip-flopped into Bush’s camp. I wonder if he got a phone call from the White House or something.
Sterling Greenwood
Aspen Free Press
Posted by: AspenFreePress | September 23, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Yeah, Come On Ole John, put your mouth where your, well, mouth is. You say this is bad, but not out loud, SPEAK UP, take a stand. Don’t keep hiding in the dark claiming that Obama’s doing what YOU, YOURSELF are doing.
Ole McCain, those old guys always crap about everything, don’t they?
Posted by: JR | September 23, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Having the choice between the ongoing of a economic desaster and a black president a lot citizen are chosing the ongoing of the desaster…. you call that a self destructing hate.
Posted by: maz hess | September 23, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
but all of mccains buddies are in this mess he has to save them
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
sure he can vote for it and then call himself a reformer, jsut like he can spend 26 years calling for deregulation and then claim lack of oversight as a factor in the current crisis. Just like it has been 8 years of a GOP whitehouse, with 6 years of a GOP congress and it is Obama’s fault that the banks are failing now. That his sits on the commerce committee but doens’t understand economics. This turn of face would be no problem for him.
Posted by: Danny | September 23, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
how does john mccain continue the war in iraq and continue to support no taxes except for those rich wall street people?
how does john mccain stop the landslide spending that is the bush administration?
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
obama said today taht this administration with their bailouts are officially hamstringing the next president and if the bailout goes through he would have to slowly ad in his plans over the course of his first 4 years
sounds like obama has a grasp of the situation
anyone want to wake up mccain and tell him his tax cuts for the rich wallstreet people arent looking so great and ask him how he plans to get the defecit down
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
maz hess You’re pretty close but not quite right. It’s not really hate as much as fear. All of our chicken conservative friends are terrified of voting for such an intelligent guy who is not a good ol’ boy. Besides he has a funny name and isn’t even 85% white. We are just going to cling to the hope that the fat cats will patch things up well enough that there will be enough scraps left over for us to get by.
Posted by: McChickens | September 23, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Gingrich ’08
Posted by: john | September 23, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
If McCain comes out against the Bailout then what would be his solution to the Wall Street crisis?
Posted by: Vanessa | September 23, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
REPUBLICAN BLAME:
democrat administration and minority homeowners for the wallstreet catastrophy
LOL this is sooo good, i mean, who are these people
no it wasnt the deregulation it was the democrats and all those pesky yard workers
lol
cmon wtf you guys need to be out of office for awhile, you are pathetic
tahnks for bankrupting the country pathetic republicans
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Why should anyone pay attention to a has been like Newt who was thoroughly repudiated by Clinton in 1996 in the Presidential election and by his own party for poor decisions that led to major losses.
Posted by: bhciapol | September 23, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I personally can’t wait for the debate on Friday.
Posted by: beck | September 23, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
mccain economic plan
ATTACK SPAIN!
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Thank you, George Bush. Thank you, John McCain. Thank you, Sarah Palin. I’m sick to my stomach after reading the following:
“We are now at a tipping point, with about half of the country now penetrated by a range of Sunni militant groups including the Taliban and al Queida,” Jones said. Jones said there is growing concern that Dutch and Canadian forces in Afghanistan would “call it quits.”
“The US military would then need six, eight, maybe ten brigades but we just don’t have that money,” Jones said.
Last week, Admiral Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Congress “we’re running out of time” in Afghanistan. “I’m not convinced we’re winning it in Afghanistan,” Adm. Mullen testified.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | September 23, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
beck….ARE YOU KIDDING?? There will be NO debating as neither candidate has the incentive to debate…BOTH ARE TOO AFRAID TO MAKE A COMMITMENT ON THE ISSUES…I wouldn’t be surprised if they spend the time in a stare down contest….or perhaps, no you go first…no no you go first…no age before beauty…….
Posted by: curious indep | September 23, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
bhrandon….Stop thinking old school…this isn’t repub vs dem issue..took both parties to get us here and it is going to COST BOTH REPUB/DEM/INDEP…TAXPAYERS TO GET US OUT..
Posted by: curious indep | September 23, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
It’s like giving welfare to the same people. Let those who listened to their house real-estate agents and who were smart enough to not buy a too expensive house have the honor to pay for their own houses with their own green-backs. … and those who have a house with extra rooms they don’t even use sign up for this welfare type supplement.
To all evil people especially from Iraq, I am sure you are going to enjoy the devils horns wherever they fit in eternal hell. Respect my Americans!
Posted by: Amado Cataneda | September 23, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
I hope you have a personal phone line to Senator McCain with this advice. I have emailed and phoned my state Senator; promising to vote for his opponent if he backs this bill; and though I could never in good concience vote for Obama, I may consider sitting out this election.
Posted by: Cheryl Palmer | September 23, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
As soon as John McCain figures out which stance will win him the most votes, you can count on him promoting that stance and calling everyone else names.
In the meantime, he will be for and against everything, all at once, or perhaps nothing at all; it’s impossible to say, because he doesn’t know himself.
But eventually John will settle on something. Or pretend to, anyway. The same way he pretends to be a reformer when he’s spent his entire career supporting the status quo that has served him so well.
Seems to me that this self-proclaimed “Maverick” is really a “Pinto” with an exploding gas tank.
Posted by: Dennis Berry | September 23, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
It is interesting that the cast of characters who brought the housing market to this pass … the Dodds, Pelosis, Kerrys, and — yes, 0bama (who got more than $100,000 from Fannie Mae) are now on the side of the “little guy.” What a joke those Democrats are!
Posted by: beebop | September 23, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
McCain is trying to deflect attention form his years of deregulation with rants of righteous indignation at the failure of Wall Street. McCAin is the more naive of the candidates. …………
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/23/anarchy-the-slippery-slope-of-deregulation/
Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | September 23, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Newt…BRILLIANT!
Now we have to convince McCain/Palin to come out against the bail-out.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/
Main street has already made adjustments and there is a calculation that we have one more year of higher than normal foreclosures… helping those who are holding rentals.
Remember, “THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE TAXPAYER”, stupid. The chant of the day… REALLY?
We will still be able to help those who REALLY need help… when we crash…. American CITIZENS… not the foreign market or banks or other financial/insurance institutions.
I think we have faith that Wall St will bounce back – cleaner. Yes, it will be felt worldwide… but who could take our place?
I feel this is a rush job… most are nervous because congress MUST take their vacation… we already know they do not care about us (NO DRILL).
Copy these remarks and send them to your politicians… and of course, let OUR MAVERICKS know how we feel.
Let the Democrats decide to create this mess (but the word on the street they will not carry the ball if McCain opposes it).
You have to give Bush and McCain credit.. when the American people opposed illegal immigrant SANCTUARY, they listened to the WILL of the people.
I believe we still have to power to change this, IF we ACT.
This whole thing is political… the only other option is to commit to $700B, now, and create stipulations later.
Posted by: Mel | September 23, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Ummmm…McCain came out FOR the bail-out.
What sickens me is that I actually think Gingrinch has a good plan. The world has gone all topsy-turvey.
Posted by: the other jd | September 23, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
OH, and Mel–This bail-out WAS George Bush’s idea. It wasn’t the Dems. GW is pushing to have it passed.
Posted by: the other jd | September 23, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Every time Gingrich says “frankly” he’s lying.
Posted by: xian | September 23, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Obama needs many miracles to be president of this great nation.
McCain/Palin does not need any miracles.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74783
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=74635
Posted by: Judge | September 23, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
“Bush-Obama”
LMAO it doesn’t get any funnier than that.
Posted by: Los | September 23, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
the other jd
Hey, put your strategic hat on… we’re on the same side. I think pressure could turn it around… If WE don’t do it, nobody will.
blog blog blog does not good, unless somebody in power reads it.
Posted by: Mel | September 23, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
GO NEWT!!
I wrote McCain asking him to NOT support this bailout!! Everybody here should do the same. Let Wall Street feel what Main Street has been feeling for a long time now. No prob, no skin off of Main Stree.
http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/
Posted by: Bingo | September 23, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
McCain and Obama and Bush need to come out together for this bill to take the politics out of it;they need to focus on what is best for the country.
Posted by: response08 | September 23, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Gingrich: McCain Must Oppose Bailout
To protect OIL TYCOONS interest, in BUTING YOU HOUSE AND BUSINESSES.
Our money is, in HIS OIL LOBBIEST who control the VALUE of our dollar. Now they want to put a CHEAPER VALUE, on AMERICAN LIVES.
That’s DICTATORSHIP under CAPITALISM.
Do not let the OIL TYCOON tell you how much your life is worth.
VOTE ‘NO’ TO MC DICTATOR
Posted by: historyforgotten | September 23, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
I hope McCain votes for the bailout and wins in November because next year is the 80th anniversary of the Great Depression. Sarah can jump out of the cake and wish him Happy Anniversary!
Posted by: hamishdad | September 23, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Newt, John McCain should also support a doubling of the IRA contribution limits for at least 2008 and 2009. This would add more liquidity to the financial markets, would allow taxpayers to bolster their retirement savings, and participate in the recover of the stock market.
Posted by: Sean Owens | September 23, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Newt’s plan makes more sense than anything I’ve heard yet. There is information on this that is above our pay grade, however. There must be a short term plan to un-freeze credit markets. There must be a long term plan to better diversify our economic system. The plan being offered us by the Neo-Establishment appears to be the replacement of a corrupt oligopoly by an easily corruptible monopoly. Capital managed by the government is Socialism.
Posted by: Randy | September 23, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Gingrich’s alternatives won’t work.
Even if the capital gains tax rate were zero, capital would NOT flood into the financial sector. Wall Street has been spooked by the collapse of all these financial deals based on complex derivatives and unrealistic housing prices. Nobody wants to invest in such toxic assets now because nobody can assess their fair market value and risk. Anyone with spare cash to invest from a capital-gains tax cut will invest it in less risky investments elsewhere.
With a big capital gains tax cut, you would see folks investing in all kinds of new things–but not in the financial sector which is stuck in neutral right now.
The Federal Government must jump-start the financial sector by force. They’re the only ones who can afford to take the risk, because they can always stick the taxpayers with whatever the bill comes to and order the IRS to collect the money.
Posted by: sinz52 | September 23, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
How many of you “let wall street feel what main street feels” know that it’s the same thing? Who do you think invested in or loaned money to your employer? Who do you think offers loans to send your kids to school? Who do you think put up the investment and the insurance for your town/city to invest in infrastructure? If Wall Street tanks, Main Street tanks – as businesses shut down, as infrastructure crumbles, as the high cost of education gets further out of reach.
Posted by: NB | September 23, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
If Gingrich were Speaker of the House now, I’m pretty darn sure Congress’s approval rating would be at least above 10.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | September 24, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
“Newt” forgets the obvious elephant in the room, the fact that without a bailout, it’s the Great Depression all over again when the capital markets implode. I have a feeling that the strategy of resisting the bailout leaves anyone saying ‘no’ with a question to answer, “what is your alternative?”
McCain has no alternative and if he tries to demagogue against the bailout, he’ll appear like someone who is perfectly willing to watch the American people go through another depression because he didn’t want to support the 700 billion dollar measure now. Not to mention the narrative that Republicans such as McCain are responsible for this crisis, something supporting by polling in the past week on the matter.
I don’t see resisting a bailout all together being a strategy that will resonate with voters, especially if the series of principles released by the McCain campaign are adopted in some form in the legislation.
Posted by: LukeMiguez | September 24, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
I hope McCain votes against the bill, than he will lose the election for sure, because everyone knows that this bill has to go through, as tough as it maybe, it must go through to save the us even more hardship, but I hope it includes help for struggling homeowners.
Posted by: Kathy | September 24, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
MCCAIN IS TOO BUSY THIS MORNING…
Mark this day down. Today — last night, actually — the New York Times and Roll Call reported (it’s hard to see who was first) what may be the biggest political story of the campaign. How big? John McCain might have to fire his campaign manager. Big enough?
The story is this. The lobbying firm of Rick Davis, the manager, was being paid $15,000 a month by Freddie Mac until last month. That fact is a direct contradiction of words McCain had spoken Sunday night. At that time, responding to a Times story being prepared for Monday’s paper revealing that Davis had been the head of a lobbying consortium led by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae until 2005, McCain said Davis had done no further work for either mortgage giant.
Someone’s lying – either Davis to McCain, or McCain to the public
Posted by: GIGI | September 24, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it…instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG – liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.
Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We Deserve It Dividend more than I do, the geniuses at AIG, or in Washington DC.
And remember, The plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned
instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Posted by: Rich | September 24, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
I mean really who gives a ratrs behind what the old turd blossem Gingrich has to say or think for that matter. Back to the hole you crawled out of Newt, go play in traffic.
Posted by: ronnieraygun | September 24, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Congress should be put on a pay for performance plan. They would owe us money.
Congress established the environment which caused this mess when they forced banks to make credit available to individuals far in excess of what they would have normally qualified for.
Posted by: Bob | September 24, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
I like it rich you plan seems good to me where do I sign?????
Posted by: reddog0216 | September 24, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
FYI 85 billion divided by 200 million p eople is $425 not $425,000.
Posted by: Cryos | September 24, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
“Congress established the environment which caused this mess when they forced banks to make credit available to individuals far in excess of what they would have normally qualified for.”
Yep. Here’s my take on the situation.
Democrats keep mentioning “deregulation” but don’t mention the reason. Beginning in 1999 we lowered loan standards with the “social justice” goal of increasing “minority” home ownership. We did this by the government telling financial firms they had to accept lower standards for credit and in return we would underwrite the loans using Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. From there it was greed that took over.
I think this is why you see support for the bailout from both republicans and democrats; they don’t want people to really know WHY we got here they just want to keep things vague with “deregulation” and “greed.”
This is a perfect example of why you have to be careful letting “feel good” politics get in the way of business. We told businesses they had to accept bad loans and it just got worse and worse from there from greed as everyone tried to prolong the housing bubble.
Housing was going up at a ridiculous, unsustainable rate and no one was complaining. Real estate companies and financial firms were getting their money, homeowners were quiet believing they were gaining wealth, politicians (both parties)were getting their political donations, and the noble cause of home ownership even for people that don’t deserve it was being fulfilled.
However housing was becoming so high prices the middle class could no longer buy homes. The market should have leveled out or decline slightly a couple years ago. Rather than let the market naturally level out or decline the financial firms, real estate companies, politicians, etc wanted to keep making their money so they got more and more creative with the loans based off of the poor standards established in the late 90s until the bubble could no longer be contained and it popped. And here we are.
Posted by: Cryos | September 24, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Cryos props to you. Hitting the nail on the head. The housing market was correcting in late 2003 when rates were heading back to 8% and then overnight Lehman began buying loans that required No Income, No assets, and No employment to be disclosed on the application. Key word “required”.
Posted by: Ricardo | September 24, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Gingrich is a political genius!
He is a mastermind for the conservative movement. Republicans should listen to him like they did in 94′
Posted by: Derek | September 24, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Gingrich may have something, here. I don’t feel comfortable giving the government more power over business. I don’t live in a Socialist nation – and hopefully it won’t turn into one. However, if Obama is elected – Socialism is just about assured. The lines will be drawn between Capitalist and Socialist (New designation of the Democratic party). Capitalism will die under something like this, if we allow it to happen. Is that what we really want? There will be less for all down the road. I won’t work and pay all my earnings to taxes. Time to live off the system! Where do I sign up?
Posted by: Keith B | September 24, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Cryos:
“Congress established the environment which caused this mess when they **forced** banks to make credit available to individuals far in excess of what they would have normally qualified for.”
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WRONG.
Private banks were never “forced” to loan money to anybody.
They CHOSE to loan money because they thought that they could turn a profit.
Lehman brothers was never “required” by the government to buy up sub-prime mortgages debt.
Why were sub-prime mortgages at variable interest rates requiring no income history, no collateral assets, and no significant down payment were possible?
Because this lending market was DEREGULATED, i.e. there were NO REGULATIONS requiring this, and there was not oversight.
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Note: private banks are never “required” to make home mortgage loans, to anybody, at anytime, for any reason.
Are many private banks making mortgage loans today? No, they are not.
Could the government “force” these banks, today, to make loans at interest rates the government sets? No, it could not.
Yet you claim the government somehow had this mysterious power in 2003? What happened?
My answer is nothing happened. The government did not have this power in 2003 and it does not have this power today.
The mortgage market was a free market.
In a free market, private banks make loans if they choose to make loans, i.e. because they think they’ll make a profit. This was also true of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
The government DID say that, all other things being equal (down payment, perceived ability to make monthly payments, etc) the RACE of an applicant could NOT be a criteria used to deny someone a mortgage loan.
Example: Take two people with the same monthly income, making the same down payment, with the same assets.
Banks cannot deny one of the two a loan based on race, or some proxy for race.
That’s the regulation that applies here.
This regulation did NOT create the current crisis in the housing market.
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Banks CHOSE to take on the risk of sub-prime mortgages, but this is something they chose with eyes open and voluntarily – they thought they could make a profit, they thought wrong. We, the American taxpayer are being stuck with the bill.
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Proper regulation of these sorts of loans may have prevented this crisis from snowballing to the extent that it has.
Posted by: Freddie Mac | September 24, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Capitalism will die under something like this….!
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Capitalism died last week, and the Republican party killed it.
Wake up, and stop trotting out tired, dull ideas.
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I agree with you, I say let the investment banks die.
To the barricades!
When banks stop making loans altogether, a second great Depression hits, we see 20 – 30% unemployment, people being thrown out of their houses, a global recession….
…then we”’ see a proper revolution!
Forget whimpering socialism, the revolution will sweep away all the tired old institutions, and we’ll finally get that NEW WORLD ORDER the Illuminati have been promising us!
Viva la Revolucion!
Viva Che Guevara!
Viva Fidel Castro!
Viva Hugo Chaves!
Viva Lenin & Stalin!
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NO BAILOUT!
Let the free market system collapse!
Workers of the world of nothing to lose but their chains!
Posted by: Karl Marx | September 24, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Long live Newt Gingrich!
The last true political genius, the last real REVOLUTIONARY!
Viva Newt Gingich & Vladimir Lenin
Viva Newt Gingich & Joseph Stalin
Viva Newt Gingich & Fidel Castro
Viva la Revolucion!
Viva la Revolucion!
Viva la Revolucion!
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NO BAILOUT!
Let the free market system collapse!
To the barricades!
When banks stop making loans altogether, a second great Depression hits, we see 20 – 30% unemployment, people being thrown out of their houses, a global recession….
…then we’ll see a proper revolution!
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Workers of the world unite…
join forces with Newt Gingrich’s Republican party…
the real party of revolution
….we have nothing to lose but their chains!
Posted by: Karl Marx | September 24, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Reply to: Freddie Mac:
Banks were called Raciest and accused of Redlining. ACORN made a ton of money on the loans that finally started coming through the system. (Check out article in IBD today) I am for home ownership but let’s go back to the Carter Administration forward and put the shoe on the correct foot. If liberals had their way we Government would control 100% of our lives. Barney Frank and others protected the system we have today and now want to point their finger at George Bush – who 17 times warned the Hill that something had to be done. How easy it is to just scream “FIRE” and take no heat. Hopefully the American people are not Sheep and there is going to be, hopefully, a full accounting. But I kind of think that everyone is in the spin game today’ there are very few people we can actually trust to give us the truth and I can’t think of one Democrat I would put my trust in. I think a Bi-partisan group should be made to explain and for goodness sakes let’s not allow them to actually run business. Look how the government has totally screwed up Washington. The one thing we do have to fear is a Democratic President and Congress. All we will get is Socialist spin, and regulations and laws, and years of hauling Bush and Chaney into court, or someone in their administration. That is where our country is today – gang colors of Red and Blue.
Posted by: Keith B | September 24, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Banks were called Racist and accused of Redlining.
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Banks were called racist because they were using racial criteria to determine who did or who did not get a loan.
They were being racist!
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Congress did not require Banks make questionable loans, banks made these loans of their own free will. They saw a chance at making an easy profit.
They did see some profits, the CEOs and top sellers DID receive multi-million dollar “performance-based” annual bonus packages, retiring execs and CEOs did walk away with multi-million dollar golden parachutes.
Now, after their risky lending practices have resulted in a market collapse, they are still driving home to their million dollar mansions, they still have multi-millions tucked away in Swiss bank accounts, they still have their summer villas and yachts in the Riviera. They took the money and ran!
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Again, the courts only said that, ALL OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL, banks could not choose to grant or deny a person a loan based on race.
Banks COULD always deny an African-American a loan based on objective financial criteria (insufficient down-payment, poor or sketchy income history, no collateral), but if they denied an African-American a loan based on those criteria, they WERE REQUIRED to DENY a white applicant who met the same objective financial criteria a loan as well.
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Bank’s CHOSE to make loans to individuals, both white and black, who were dubious borrowers – that was their mistake.
They were ENTIRELY FREE, as they are ENTIRELY FREE TODAY, to refuse questionable mortgage loans based on any number of OBJECTIVE, FINANCIAL criteria.
They preferred to take the risk. The took the profits.
We, the American taxpayer are stuck with paying the tab.
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De-regulation and lack of appropriate oversight played a HUGE role in bringing about this crisis.
Posted by: Freddie Mac | September 24, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
In a speech delivered at the Constitutional Convention, September 17, 1787, Thomas Jefferson said, “…I agree with this Constitution with all it’s faults, if they are such, because I think a general government is necessary for us and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe further that this is likely to be well administered for a good course of years, and can only end in despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other.” Despotism absolute power or influence by government, master, or ruler. “We, the people”, can see this happening with the bailouts. “We, the people” can see this happening with the lack of progress on an energy plan that will actually accomplish something. “We, the people” can see this happening with more and more infringement on individual and family rights. “We, the people” can see this happening when we look at both candidates plans to add more government agencies, more government positions, and more government spending. What of “We, the people”? We have become “corrupted” just as Thomas Jefferson forewarned. We have been corrupted into thinking the government has the answers to all our problems. We have been corrupted into believing it is “patriotic” to give and give to others based on “need” and not ability. We have been corrupted into believing we cannot be a “Christian” nation and still allow freedom of religion, even though we have been doing exactly that for 232 years. We have been corrupted into believing that those with wealth are just greedy and are to blame for all our woes. We have been “corrupted” by the very people we have entrusted and I am not just talking about politicians. With the Elections looming, the financial mess on Wall Street (private industry by the way), and the lack of an energy plan that will work, by a Congress that has been in control of the economy for the last two years, let we forget, I decided it was worth my time to seriously research a lot of things. I began by actually reading all of both candidates proposals, then went back to the roots of this country.
First, let me say, this American is appalled to see a candidate so warmly received by everyone on such a Socialist agenda. To be fair, I saw some of the same tendencies in both. For instance,no clarification on whether new job creation would be private or government sector for clean energy and that is just a very small section. I am not going to get into the debate on the candidates in this way. The reality on this day is both plans will be useless once they get into office. The bailouts assured us of that. Let us not forget the fact that law is enacted in the legislative branch, not executive entirely. In deciding a President this year, this American will have to weigh heavily which candidate believes in smaller government and less government controls, not more. By virtue, the same standard applies to all elected officials. We, the people need to wake up or we will cease to exist without individual rights, individual property and individual values. Everything will be decided based on the “common good” and the “need” of someone else. If that is what the majority of Americans want, then the “corruption” of Americans is complete. If it is not, then I urge all of you to gain back your personal responsibility and begin voting your way to a “Constitutional” government. They are no longer such. The beauty of this country is we do have choices. Choose who you want in office and who you want to do business with. Make a stand!
Written by:
An Ordinary Middle Class American Woman
Posted by: Dara, CA | September 24, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
So Newt wants to spin this as the Bush/Obama Bail-Out so McCain can get elected? The Americans be dammmed? What a rotten politician! I don’t know if the bail-out is right or wrong but I sure as he11 don’t want someone voting for it or against it for solely political purposes!
Posted by: marilyn | September 24, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
I just read “GIGI” proposal and it makes the most sense of any thing I have heard throughtout this stupid BAILOUT PROPOSAL when they did the stimulas package they sent $300-600 I said if they really want to make a difference sent everyone 100k they can afford it they have spent billions in Iraq and all the other f__k ups.Now this no money for Katrina or Ike but lets bail out WALL ST NOOOOO Way!!!! send the checks now to all the Taxpayers and we will get OUR COUNTRY movin again and all you guys go home get a real job your fired just like I would be if I had done such a lousy job when will we get real in this country these WALLSTREETERS-POLITICIANS are one in the same and they need to go away so we th people can reclaim our FREEDOM!!!!
Posted by: mojosurfer | September 24, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Lots of race peddlers in here. So if we aren’t for Barack we must be full of hate and racism? Our education system is worse than i thought..
Posted by: Race peddlers in here | September 24, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
UM, Mr. Gingrich, excuse me — did you say “The Bush-Obama establishment” (several times)? Are you that deluded or do you perceive the American people as devoid of reason, blind, or just plain stupid??? Bush’s agenda is what Obama has rallied against since he’s played a hand in our government. The two stances are as polarized as they come. Seriously, wake up – America is wide awake and can smell your bullsh*t from miles away.
Posted by: Karen Ellis-Ritter | September 24, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
HA, guess Obummer decided he can’t sit this one out after all. Just
announced on Fox news President Bush called and asked to meet with
both presidential candidates and key members of Congress (In other
words, he knows its not going well). Soooooo, guess, McCain was one
step ahead again..and Obama has to be persuaded to come play with the
other kiddies
Posted by: Cheryl Palmer | September 24, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Cheryl Palmer, if you think Fox News is a credible news source, you must have voted for Bush, twice. Thanks a lot to you and your ilk.
Posted by: Julz | September 24, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Obama may have forgotten but he and McCain are both Senators. They are supposed to be two of our elected and salaried leaders; in fact… it is their *main* responsibility.
Obama keeps saying that McCain should be able to do more than one thing at time. That’s *really* funny coming from Obama… a man that has done virtually nothing *but* campaign for a big part of his career and for all of the last 2 years. He may see no need to be involved beyond standing on the sidelines and criticizing but I am damn glad that McCain considers his day job to be more important, at this time, than a few speeches and a debate.
It took both parties to get us in this mess… it’s going to take every last one of them to even begin to get us out. Øbama needs to give up the partisan one-upmanship, and … yes… the campaigning, for a moment and do his job.
Posted by: heart.puma | September 24, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Newt – What are you saying??? Did you just propose to “suspend immediately mark to market provisions…replacing (them) with a three year moving average.”??? I never expected a conservative as smart as you to propose accounting methods that would compromise the integrity of balance sheets – and all related financial statements – so broadly. Can I use a “3 year moving average” when I provide my net worth when applying for my next credit card, Newt? I guess “conservative accounting” is taking on a whole new meaning…
Posted by: Mark K | September 24, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Both of our current candidates are still Senators. They did not resign their positions and there are only 100 US Senators, so they should be in Washington representing Arizona and Illinois. Right now, I could care less about a presidential debate on foreign policy. I want our congress and president to do what is best for our country. Nothing about a $300 Billion bailout sounds good. Just higher taxes and a higher deficit. Neither of our presidential candidates are saying anything that I think would help this country. I don’t want to pay more taxes!!I have done my patriotic duty and then some.
Posted by: GLH | September 24, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
All I can say is if Bush is for this bail out it has a lot of flaws in it because he hasn’t been right about anything yet. He was warned about this 3 years ago but he has had his head up Bagdad’s you no what for so long he doesn’t know whats going on behind his head .If they are going to bail out wall street they better bail out main street too. Going to bail out the millionaire wall streeters who get multi million dollar bonuses this is real nice .
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | September 25, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
The wall street bail out is supposed to buy their assets and resale them to someone else what i’d like to know is what happens if they have no buyers????
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | September 25, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
LOL..The speech was covered by all the major networks. Obama WILL be in Washington tomorrow, whether he wants to be or not (cuts into his cram time on foreign policy, I know). Personally, I’d rather let the debate be rescheduled and get this economic mess cleaned up and I applaud McCain for taking his job as a Senator seriously; and as a candidate second. See, the difference is…McCain didnt have to be called and asked; he knew where he was supposed to be. President Bush had to call Obama and ask him pretty please to come join in the talks. Personally, I’d just as soon he’d stay in Florida.
Posted by: Cheryl Palmer | September 25, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Gee, there are an awful lot of cynical comments–from both sides–on this!! Methinks that many of the people commenting forget that Speaker Gingrich has PROPOSED something and that we ought to DISCUSS sensibly and calmly. All this finger-pointing and railing against one side (party) or the other simply shows that you’re emminenty qualified to be members of Congress, for that is all they seem capable of doing. (Hence the “lofty” ratings of confidence in Congress these days!!!)
All these rantings reaffirm my belief that whoever wrote, “the masses are asses” was dead-on.
Grow up folks!! Start acting like responsible American citizens instead of 3-year-olds (and that’s putting down 3-year-olds!) The key to character is being able to act like an adult when others around you don’t. Be part of the solution; don’t nurture the problem.
Posted by: Dave | September 25, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Newt, I hope you can manage to grab 5 minutes of John McCain’s time today and lay our your proposals. Otherwise I can see him stuck with the ‘Bush shadow’ tag all over again.
Posted by: Cheryl Palmer | September 25, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Newt is an idiot:
Marking assets to lower of cost or market is a CONSERVATIVE DISCLOSURE PRINCIPLE OF GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRACTICES – the compendium of accounting “how to” overseen and manintained by the Financial Accounting Standards Board.
First: The conservative disclosure principle protects investors from buying a overvalued assets… which, if somehow enacted, would serve to deepen the crises… it already suffers from inadequated disclosure…
2nd: For Congress to meddle in the FASB’s business is ludicrous… Would Newt have Congress tell the AMA to dictate surgical procedures?
Sarbanes-Oxley: Was passed to thwart deception and fraud from WITHIN corptorations… NOT TO ADDRESS THE CRISES AT HAND… the suggestion is political bull. The rest of his suggestions are policital opportunism.
McBlunder will probably go with it!
Posted by: Rick S | September 25, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I was all set to vote for McCain. But he’s lost me by even entertaining this fraud. I won’t vote for him (or anybody) if he goes along with the bailout. Many, many people feel the same. You might as well just vote for Obama and get it over with.
If McCain goes along with the bailout, he looses the election. If he opposes it, he wins, because nobody wants this except the Democrats and the administration. It’s as simple as that. It’s up to you, John.
Posted by: Jay Mack | September 25, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
The American people should see the plan also. We can’t see the tiny print that let’s face it is present with all legal papers and “normally” is no big deal, but it could be. Most Americans are against any bailout plan since most of us had nothing whatsoever to do with approving bad loans and should not be burdened with this debt, whatever the size ends up being. How about that plan include an investigation into all lawmakers and their own private loans to see who benefited. We already know that some got reduced interest rates and I ask all of you is that acceptable to you? It isn’t to me. I think everybody that knew or got special treatment for their relationship with Fannie and Freddie should be relieved of their duties ASAP. Equally I would ask all of you if you honestly think Franks sounds even the least bit intelligent and if Dodd doesn’t sound like he is tripping all over himself to come up with something plausible for al the mistakes. I would also ask how come Rangel is still holding down a job? Stevens? PLEASE DRAIN THE THUGS OUT OF WASHINGTON.
Posted by: Susan | September 25, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Those against my plan have weapons of mass destruction. Thus we will declare war on China, Russia and Saudia Arabia.
Posted by: George B. | September 25, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
STAND FIRM HOUSE REPUBLICANS!!!!!!
We don’t want to pay for this plan!!!!!
Posted by: Aaron C. | September 26, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
just let the ship go down, make sure the the captain and the crew go down with it.it’s folly to try to save a lost cause.this is the type of situation that will make people read purchase agreements before signing.if laws were broken by these scam artists lending agencies, i say they should do time for their part in perpetuating this economic disaster.
Posted by: ted r | September 26, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
My Memaw always said, “When in doubt, don’t.”
Sounds like a plan. How could this be a good idea. You can’t solve money problems with money.
Where does the cycle end? What will it mean for hard working people?
Who is sticking up for you?
Posted by: Britton Foster | September 26, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
100 Economists from Harvard, columbia, Princeton, etc. are dead set against the plan.
The bailout is a coverup for the congress and whitehouse
McCain must stand against it !
http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/john.cochrane/research/Papers/mortgage_protest.htm
Posted by: John | September 26, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
100 Economists from Harvard, columbia, Princeton, etc. are dead set against the plan.
The bailout is a coverup for the congress and whitehouse
McCain must stand against it !
http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/john.cochrane/research/Papers/mortgage_protest.htm
Posted by: John | September 26, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Gingrich’s ideas are inspiring but can only be successfully passed in the near term with some modifications.
1) Replace market-to-market provisions with 2-year averages for limited time (say, 6 mos?) to make tolerable.
2) Sarbanes-Oxley – free ONLY small business of the SOX law for a distinct time period (Hypothetically, businesses under $1B for next 3 years). This frees up cash for small business and maintains oversight for larger businesses that have scale to absorb the cost of SOX.
3) Capital gains tax – I like this for a quick hit. For two years make short-term capital gains tax equivalent to long-term tax (20% typically). This will re-fuel somewhat the slowing housing market. Of course a 2-year 0% (dreaming) or reduced by 10% (maybe passable) capital gains tax on housing would be even better.
4) Big energy bill is not a near-term option. Best that could be hoped for without dragging this thing out is to free up natural gas drilling in geographies both parties can tolerate.
Posted by: Jason B | September 26, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Gingrich’s ideas are inspiring but can only be successfully passed in the near term with some modifications.
1) Replace market-to-market provisions with 2-year averages for limited time (say, 6 mos?) to make tolerable.
2) Sarbanes-Oxley – free ONLY small business of the SOX law for a distinct time period (Hypothetically, businesses under $1B for next 3 years). This frees up cash for small business and maintains oversight for larger businesses that have scale to absorb the cost of SOX.
3) Capital gains tax – I like this for a quick hit. For two years make short-term capital gains tax equivalent to long-term tax (20% typically). This will re-fuel somewhat the slowing housing market. Of course a 2-year 0% (dreaming) or reduced by 10% (maybe passable) capital gains tax on housing would be even better.
4) Big energy bill is not a near-term option. Best that could be hoped for without dragging this thing out is to free up natural gas drilling in geographies both parties can tolerate.
Posted by: Jason B | September 26, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
A bailout opposition petition written in the words of Thomas Jefferson himself is at http://tomsaysno.appspot.com Now that the bailout has failed its first test in front of the American People, the urgency is even greater to stand against it until its driven deep into the ground.
Posted by: John Sparsky | September 29, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
A bailout opposition petition written in the words of Thomas Jefferson himself is at http://tomsaysno.appspot.com Now that the bailout has failed its first test in front of the American People, the urgency is even greater to stand against it until its driven deep into the ground.
Posted by: John Sparsky | September 29, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Stop the insanity and the thieves! Vote NO to the bailout of the ‘powerful elite’ and their minions. Let the American people survive. Don’t put us under any more financial slavery than you already have! Let them live and die by their own created crisis’
Posted by: M Kellogg | October 1, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
I’ve been thinking about this a lot (as we all have) and it just occurred to me tonight… I’m be more than happy to agree with the “rescue” plan if Congress will do two things…
1. Hold themselves accountable (by name… not House or Senate but by individual names) if this thing doesn’t work. I want to know who screwed up!
2. Agree to some punishment if their plan doesn’t do what they are promising it will do. Punishment and an agreement that they will resign their post… Immediately!
I want to see some accountability before I will agree to this approach.
Posted by: Don Collins | October 2, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm