Gov. Palin Says Her Unmarried 17-Year-Old Daughter Is Pregnant
"We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us," reads the statement from Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her husband Todd.
"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned," they continued, referring to their 17-year-old daughter. "As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support."
The Palins said that "Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media, respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates."
The campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who announced Palin as his running mate just three days ago, said the Palins would have no further comment.
"We ask that the media respect their daughter in the same tradition that has been afforded children of past candidates," McCain spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said.
A McCain campaign official tells ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos that McCain knew of Bristol’s pregnancy and "didn’t believe Governor Palin should be disqualified" from the vice presidency because of it. "If Democrats try to attack, it will backfire spectacularly," the official said.
Gov. Palin is a strong proponent of teaching abstinence-only sex education to teenagers.
McCain campaign officials said the information was released to combat unsubstantiated rumors that Gov. Palin’s fifth child, Trig, born in April, was actually Bristol’s child.
The unsubstantiated story, circulated on liberal websites, was based on circumstantial evidence, such as photographs of Gov. Palin looking quite thin when she was supposed to be seven months pregnant, as well as Palin’s own account of Trig’s birth — which included her getting on an eight-hour flight from Texas to Alaska after her water burst.
The McCain campaign refused to comment on the record about those rumors.
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Palin has nationally embarrassed her teenage daughter by accepting this nom.
She should have put her family first and said “no”. This is shameful.
Posted by: Goon | September 1, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Oh a baby…
Or as Obama calls them “punishment”.
McCain/Palin08 God, guns, babies
Posted by: cindy in nc | September 1, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
I wonder how the conservatives will feel about this.
Posted by: ? | September 1, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
wow
Posted by: well well | September 1, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Did McCain VET Palin before he choose her?
We find something new everyday that damaging to his campiagn.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 1, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Wow, what a great role model. Oops!
Posted by: zz | September 1, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
The effectiveness of absinence only programs get a poster child.
Posted by: blakeC | September 1, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Wonder what would have happened to that baby if it was Obama’s daughter.
Posted by: riley | September 1, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
if Obama is the ‘celebrity’, McCain’s pick made his ticket the Tabloid Candidacy.
Posted by: Goon | September 1, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Well, not to be vicious but the fact Bristol is pregnant would make the initial baby-switch story even more believable. Obviously, Palin’s abstinence-only education thing does not work out that well.
Posted by: Pamela | September 1, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Now watch the desperate attempts at the Obama supporters to attack this. They have run out of issues to attack Palin, so they go after her kids? I read with utter disdain and disgust the false lies they raised about Trig not being Palins son, but grand son. Not only is this taken out of an episode of Desperate Housewives, I once again am shocked at how Obama’s supposed message of “hope” and “change” and a promise for a “better America” has rather brought out the absolute most vicious and worst in people. What have you people turned into?
Nobody with any decency would verbally attack Obama’s children. How can you possibly call yourself decent human beings attacking Palin’s children?
You can keep that kind of change, thanks.
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 1, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
“Wonder what would have happened to that baby if it was Obama’s daughter.”
She would have had a choice to keep the child or not. WHo knows how much political pressure was put on Palin’s poor daughter due to her extremist parents.
Posted by: Goon | September 1, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I think it could be Bristol’s second child to be. This is not the first time….I thought Palin believed in abstinence. This should call to attention her not wanting to support birth control for women. Not every teenager is going to remain abstinent. Some will experiment.
Posted by: hmmmm | September 1, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
She sacrificed the PRIVACY of her daughter for politics? Imagine what they will do when it comes to our RIGHT TO PRIVACY. No class.
Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 1, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Well, so much for the conservative, unknown VP pick. Even though I’m not a McCain supporter, I still think McCain would have done better choosing Mike Huckabee as a running mate. At least the presidential race in November would have been even more competitive.
Posted by: em | September 1, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Lord, what happened to teaching the abstinence-only policy in her own family.
If it cannot work in the family with her apparent support strucutre, how can it work in developing nations and in US families with out a strong support struture.
Posted by: scott jeffries | September 1, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
“They have run out of issues to attack Palin, so they go after her kids?”
I feel bad for her daughter, and no sympathy for Palin. she put her daughter in the national spotlight. Wouldnt you be embarrassed if you were her, even if you were planning on keeping the child. having all these people judge you? Palin should have put her family first.
Posted by: Goon | September 1, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
McCain Palin 08!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: McCain08 | September 1, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
“Everyone knew this would come out. Unfortunately, having 2 children within 2 years is a stretch, wouldn’t you say?”
My kids are 12 months apart; what are you saying?
Posted by: me | September 1, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
I’ll bet anything McCain regrets chosing Palin.
Everyday something damaging comes out about her.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 1, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
‘Just say No’-ish!!
Posted by: Marc | September 1, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
I don’t support McCain and Palin but I think it shows goes to show you that they are human also and by no means perfect just like us.
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
This doesn’t matter to me….if McCain knew about it and felt she should not be disqualified by it, then that’s fine. McCain has 7 children and Palin has 5….you don’t think between 12 children there wouldn’t be something their parents couldn’t control, or didn’t know. Palin’s kids did not know she was even being selected as VP until hours before. As for Gov. Palin’s Downs baby….they are always born to women over 40 and bless her for having that child….the McCain’s too adopted a special needs child (Bridgette) who has grown into a lovely young lady.
STILL A HAPPY HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN……A WOMAN WHO WALKS THE WALK. GOD BLESS THESE CANDIDATES AND THEIR 12 CHILDREN!!!!!
Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
a son in Iraq, a newborn with Down’s SYndrome requiring alot of time and energy, and now a pregnant teenager about to become a mother, AND she’s involved in an investigation. That’s quite a lot on her plate… Does she have time for us?..
Posted by: UYOH1234 | September 1, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
This opens up the judgement question. As the mother of a teenage daughter I would not do what Sarah Palin is doing to her daughter. I would have told John McCain “thank you, I am honored to be considered for VP, but my first priority is my family right now.” End of story. I think her decision to accept the VP position demonstrates a selfishness that is unbecoming and seriously questions her judgement.
Posted by: diane | September 1, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
This is what happens when you let a bunch of grown up with nothing more than a high school education have access to the internet. This is the first of many things that will come out about Palin. Instead of asking the LOGICAL question like whether this woman should be within a 72 year old heartbeat of being the President of the United States you want to talk about what Obama MIGHT have done. Spare us the stupidity.
Posted by: Dems | September 1, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
And now the McCain camp is vetting her…
MORE TO COME!!!!!!
Posted by: Libratine | September 1, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
This wil make more women move toward Palin, the treatment she is receiving in the media is solidifying the womens vote for her..
Posted by: Steve | September 1, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Last time i checked a teenager has free will! I dont care how religous and how much u teach abstinence,if i person wants to have sex..they will.Espeacially in the religous community so many kids of pastors and reverends are having sex its not even funny.
Posted by: perry | September 1, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
“We ask the media, respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”
Oh, really. Is that why in 1998 John McCain cracked the following “vile joke?” “Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno.” David Corn wrote a very good article on this for Salon. I advise you all to read it.
Posted by: Karen | September 1, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
I don’t see the problem here, teenagers are having babies left and right, what’s the difference?
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
This issue was self-inflicted by Palin and the Republicans. It has nothing to do with anyone but them. It will soon come out that Trig is Bristol’s as well and that Palin lied and sacrificed her family and daughter for her ambition. Very sad. It will be the end of her campaign and the death knell for McCain’s chances.
Posted by: ed | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
So how’s that “abstinence only” thingy working out for you conservatives? Works like a charm doesn’t it?
Posted by: Tracy | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
It doesn’t matter. No other republican wanted to risk their political careers and be on the ticket with DOWN THE DRAIN McCAIN.
Posted by: Libratine | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Family Values at its finest.
Posted by: Marie | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
I knew it, i saw this coming. McCain met Palin once and it was over the phone. She was vetted for like five minutes before McCain made her his VEEP. Why John? Why didn’t go to more seasoned women in the republican party?
Palin is Eaglton of 08′
Posted by: Camden | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Maybe John McCain should have Googled Sarah Palin before he selected her…if he knew how to Google!
Posted by: Mike | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
The attacks will only help Palin.
How many families with teenagers have had to deal with the same issue? Just supports even more that she is one of us.
I hope this brings up Obama’s radical abortion record.
Posted by: cindy in nc | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
McCain knew about this!? Right. Not only is he a man of very poor judgement, he is now officially a liar!!
Posted by: bob10001 | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Here we go with the shot gun wedding. Its wonderful if her daughter made the choice, but somehow I cant see that she had a choice. Mommie’s running as prolife canidate can’t very well have an abortion. This what happens when you have a relgious veiw of only abstience instead of teaching about birth control. I wonder if the kid’s marraige will last.
Posted by: rachel | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
It’s not about her daughter being pregnant, It is not about Bristol.
It is about lies and judgment fit to be President/VP.
Palin has used her right wing religious thinking as part of her politics.
And her politics will be challenged. Unfortunately, she put her politcs before her children and that does not fair well with voters.
She is against birth control for women.
This is NOT Bristol’s first child.
She is not protecting her daughter’s honor by putting politics before her family.
Shamed
Posted by: lies | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
OMG! I knew there was some reason why that blanket was covering her daughter when she was holding the baby during the announcement of Palin as the VP choice. Did she talk to her mom about thinking about having sex? Did she not feel comfortable talking to her mom? Why didn’t her mom prepare her for having sex? If the daughter did not feel comfortable telling her mom what does that say about their relationship?
Is she so busy with getting famous that she ignoring her family that is suspose to be so important to her? Does she not believe in birth control? Answers to any of these questions would be appreciated. I am so confused. Why did she accept the nomination knowing this McCain is old and feeible I honestly do not see him making it for the next four years so she will be President is this okay with everyone?
Posted by: Penny | September 1, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
how did obama manage to bring out so much hate from his fans?
Posted by: trettion | September 1, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
how did obama manage to bring out so much hate from his fans?
Posted by: trettion | September 1, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
You GOP-ers are freaking goofy. How can you not see you are being played with? I guess you really are that ignorant. Palin preaches one thing then lives another. Just like McCain. Just like most ALL GOP-conservative leaders. Remember RUSH and his rally against drugs – oops, he’s addicted to drugs. The GOP two-faced list is simply too long. Open your eyes, put the kool-aid down. Think for yourself.
Posted by: sick of gop scams | September 1, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Very irresponsible of McCain. His campaign is just vetting her now. They have just sent people to Alaska to start the vetting process!
Posted by: grob | September 1, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Concerned on OH, that’s not true, you need to get your facts straight, go to factscheck, there was already a law in Illinois that protected born alive chilren, Obama voted against that undermined roe vs wade.
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Obviously she should’ve started the abstinence-only program at her houes first… McCain’s poor decision making skills should be a clue as to how he will run the country IF(and that is a big IF) he is elected!!! Lastly, statement made by McCain’s campaign “try to attack, it will backfire spectacularly,” sounds a lot like something that would come from Al Queda.
Posted by: Que? | September 1, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
I predict McCain may have to pull a McGovern on his VP pic. As a Dem I am “country first” also. He should have picked someone else as he might very well win. I want a secure nation in the Presidency and Vice Presidency no matter the party. It was just a poor choice. The religious right gets a preganant 17 year old daughter? I feel for the family and they are right to get her married and have the child. I feel sorry for this circumstance and believe in unconditional love, too. But this distracts the posssible future VP AND McCain and that bothers me. Again, poor choice-impulsive. I would go with Obama on judgement.
Posted by: Bonzai | September 1, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Hypocisy of the highest order! This is the family value they are trying to sell to Americans?
Posted by: Jude | September 1, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
How utterly pathetic. What can the Democrats possibly do to attack Palin? What has she actually DONE? She’s been mayor of a small town. She’s a first term governor. She has ZERO years as a State Legistlator. She has ZERO years in Washington. The truth there isn’t ONE poster currently posting who couldn’t be John McCain’s VP choice. Think about it. Your husband who is currently out fixing a washer and dryer COULD BE the Republican nominee for VP. God help us all….
Posted by: Dems | September 1, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Palin is utterly irresponsible, She should never accept a position that just 30 days ago she said ‘she has no idea what a VP does’ Would she accept the position of brain surgeon just because its offered to her? To accept a position that can affect 300million Americans with ‘not knowing what the position does’ is utterly irresponsible of both her and McCain. That self promoting is disgusting.
Posted by: tim | September 1, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
I don’t see the problem here, teenagers are having babies left and right, what’s the difference?
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Absitence only education at Work! If this had happened to a democratic candidate’s kid the right wing nut jobs would have gone crazy about lack of morals, discipline, yada, yada yada. Since this is occuring in the household of a fundamentalist Christian household this is fine. Hypocrites the Repugs.
Posted by: feminist50 | September 1, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
We need baby daddy info stat!
Posted by: grob | September 1, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Obama has already addressed the issue of how he would reacti to his daughter’s pregnancy – that he ‘wouldn’t want her ‘punished with a baby’. So an abortion would be scheduled. That’s teaching our young women AND men that the consequences of their actions can simply be eliminated and responsibility avoided and when life is inconvenient or embarrasing just kill it. We are destroying the soul of society with that kind of message. Sarah Palin is cleary not happy with her daughter’s actions but she is neither abandoning her or protecting her from the consequent responsibilities. She is truly a powerful role model for woman AND men.
Posted by: Mary McCurry | September 1, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Political Party Family Values or who’s the Sell your soul for celebrity?
Obama married to the same woman and raising 2 bright kids. Biden lost first wife in horrible car crash and kids injured. Doesn’t remarry until 5 years later.
McCain divorces 1st wife after she’s in a disfiguring car crash while already carrying on an affair with rich beer heiress.
Palin: Evangelical mom of five’s 17 year old daughter is 5 months pregnant. Shotgun wedding planned for groom.
Got to love the hypocrisy
Posted by: Joe Dante | September 1, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
How will Democrats, the party of inclusiveness and tolerance, react to this news? We’re already seeing it here – with vicious, bitter attacks.
Posted by: marylou | September 1, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
This has just helped the McCain Palin ticket! Pro-Life!!!!!!
Posted by: Republicans08 | September 1, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
If this were a male candidate nobody would be suggesting that he was selfish to run.It’s the Palin’s business who runs the family at home.Mr Palin will be the “Second Spouse ” not Mrs Palin.
Frankly, This woman knows what the average American woman is feeling.
Posted by: mhm | September 1, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
A lot of daughters, mothers and grandparents will be able to relate to this issue.
I don’t think McCain/Palin will lose many votes over this. They will most certainly not lose mine.
Life – it is what happens while you are living.
PUMA!
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 1, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
As a Democrat, I hope my fellow Democrats will not use this story about a child having a child to be cruel. She has a hard enough road ahead of her. I wish her the best of luck.
Posted by: Sarah Fleming | September 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
VP is measure of judgment. McCain failed in his judgment. Completely Failed!!!!
Posted by: mamo | September 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Soap Opera Politics at its BEST!! The GOP, as usual, delivers!!
Posted by: Jackie | September 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Sounds like someone needs to spend more time at home with her kids.
Posted by: Justin | September 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
HAHA!! One thing that my dad thought me in life to think about as a kid: No matter how quick the lie,time will cach it!! Now Mrs.Palin instead of abstinence how bout teaching the use of responsible birthcontol to your children. And what would you have done if your daugther would have been sexualy assulted instead of OOPS! an accident?? Would you have punished your daughter by having her carry the child of her rapist to full term?? And then give it up for adoption?? And live the rest of her life with the memory of it all and wondering what became of the child?? So thus punishing her trhee times?? Mrs Palin think about his and reconsider you thoughts about being pro-life and instead be of pro-choice and have a woman be boss of her own body.
Posted by: Karolina | September 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Wow! Logic really, really works. If things do not add up it is because the pieces are missing. Now, things are making sense….. the flight from Texas to Alaska after a water break made me wonder as to how responsible she was or maybe she is just a maverick. Logic works!
Posted by: John Paul Telhomme | September 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Gov. Palin is out of her mind if she thinks Hockey Mom’s, Soccer Mom’s, Working Mom’s – simply Mom’s across America will vote for her or Sen. McCain! I am PRO CHOICE FOR A PRODUCTIVE LIFE FOR MY DAUGHTER AND SON!
Gov. Palin gives new meaning to “Pro Life” – a dinosaur from Alaska!
Posted by: Dana Meade-Santos | September 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Obama’s fans have always been hateful. Mazeltov to the Palin family!
Posted by: s.b. | September 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Oh well! She will be a good role model “family value” to teach our kids that you should have a baby at 17 or younger! having sex as young as you like! Gov. Palin!!!
Posted by: johnny | September 1, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Why did she make this pregnate daughter stand behind her holding the weight of a 4 month old baby the whole time during her speech in Dayton???
Posted by: Sue T123 | September 1, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Sarah Palin – really knows how to keep a house in order!!
Posted by: Jackie | September 1, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
gop= government of pregnancy!
Posted by: ml_ramirez626 | September 1, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
To suggest that Palin could not accept the nomination for the sake of her daughter’s reputation says much more about the ones judging her on this than Palin herself.
Furthermore, as governor of Alaska this would have been breaking news there. As a 17 year old girl, I’m sure her world is isolated to her immediate surroundings. Either way, embarassment would come from this. Why let it ruin a potentially good opportunity for not just the Palins, but America?
Posted by: Publus | September 1, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
mamo,
i agree. this is not Bristol. Its about McCain’s lack of judgment. And, yes, he failed.
Posted by: Camden | September 1, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
So what!! That doesnt say anything about palin one way or another. I would imagine that no parent can control their teen age kids 100 percent. It doent say anything about Palins values one way or another. What does say something about her values, is the fact that she is not enviroment nor animal friendly when it comes to money.
Obama 08
Posted by: CW | September 1, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
So much for Abstinence Only education Repubs…the Dems can’t attack Bristol or Sarah for this situation (I’ll even admit thats unfair) but they for damn sure better attack on the hypocrisy in the Party….Why should we respect their privacy when they don’t respect mine to practice contraception or privately have an abortion!
Posted by: lex_soho | September 1, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Mary McMurry, I’m sure Obama meant it in a way that if his daughter was to get pregnant and wanted an abortion that he would not object to it, you are taking his words out of context to help the candidate you support, and I by no means support all this hate going on about Palin’s daughter, I believe that we as humans make mistakes and how we handle the mistakes is whats most important. I think it just shows that as conservative as the Palin family may be, they are human too.
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Goon – exactly! What does this say about McStupid? The guy is an idiot.
Posted by: Shianne | September 1, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
So now we know that “abstinence only” doesn’t work.
Posted by: Lou | September 1, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
‘As for Gov. Palin’s Downs baby….they are always born to women over 40 and bless her for having that child….’
No, DS babies aren’t always born to women over 40. My neighbor was 25 and a co-worker was 22 when their DS babies were born.
Posted by: Quince124 | September 1, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Sara Palin should decline the nomination and focus on the family–people will sympathize with her decision.
Posted by: Marcia | September 1, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Just can’t make up real life
Wow!
Posted by: smith | September 1, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
McCain-Palin a change that we can believe in.
Posted by: Ghada | September 1, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Huh?
This does not explain away her reckless flight from Dallas to Alaska after her water broke.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 1, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Palin’s new slogan ‘Illegitimate family values!
Posted by: Cindy Lareno | September 1, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
This is what happens when we don’t teach sex education. The republicans can continue to look the other way hope the problem goes away, but it is something that needs to be faced.
Posted by: Mark | September 1, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
So, once again, the HolierThanThou party reveals itself to be hypocritical, talk-the-talk-but-can’t-walk-the-walk. How dare they chastise the rest of us for our “family values”, contraception, sex education, etc.? Nice example, Reps! Of course, Palin will love, accept, and parent this new baby. The point is the hypocracy!! And lack of judgement in a VP pick!!
Posted by: Godluvsusall | September 1, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
When Palin uses abstinence for as a political view, she puts this situation on the table.
How would this have faired at Rick Warren’s Church, you know, the one religious leader who mixed church and state with the McCain/Obama appearances.
This goes to the Heart of Republican thinking and politics.
Posted by: Republican Politics | September 1, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Palin advocates nothing beyond abstinence-only for sex education, and now her teen daughter is pregnant. Failed policy #1, Sarah.
Posted by: cturple | September 1, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
“they are always born to women over 40 and bless her for having that child”
No, they are not. My mother was 25 when her first child was born with DS.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 1, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
At least the young man/father has the guts to step up to the plate and take responsibility.
Posted by: LADNARC | September 1, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
OMG! LMAO! This is the best McCain could find as a VP. What else will come out of Palins closet.
Posted by: Marshall | September 1, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Palin cant even ‘govern’ her own household of ’5′, and now she wants to help lead a country of 300million?
Give Me A Break
Posted by: Trish N. | September 1, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Hmmm…and here I thought liberal thinking was all about personal choice. Bristol Palin made personal choices to have sex and then to have the baby but it looks like it’s most the liberal side sharpening the knives.
Posted by: MizFW | September 1, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
This proves first-hand how well abstinence only works with young people. This little 17 year old girl will do fine because her parents are well off. But in the real world, this girl and the new baby would be in serious trouble. Unfortunatley the GOP lives in the top 5% of the nation and they don’t have to pay attention to the real world. This is really bad for our country, how professional would it be if a 17 year old was shown with her baby and her baby’s daddy as represenatives of this country.
Posted by: Alex | September 1, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
The sad fact is, that statistically speaking, she began having sex at 12 and does not use birth control. This is repeated every day in America, where sex sells even water.
Posted by: edgy31 | September 1, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
The issue with Palin’s daughter’s pregancy is fair game for the media as it speaks to McCain’s judgement and the fact Palin was not properly vetted. This is a p.r. disaster, happening DURING the RNC.
Do you really believe McCain knew? The politically correct thing to do if that was the case was to have Palin announce the pregnancy a month or so in advance of her selection, to give the media time to mull it over. That way it doesn’t look like you’re trying to hide it from the American public, as that’s exactly what it looks like now.
What it looks like is that bloggers caught on to it, and forced Palin to confess it. McCain has no choice now but to lie and say he knew, as if he doesn’t, he looks like the irresponsible, impulsive, Bush knowing thsidekick that he is.
Palin has put her teenage daughter in a spotlight no teen should ever be in. She should never, ever have accepted the nom knowing this was lurking and could blow up.
Again, I can’t stress enough, any politician in their right mind would have released this long ago, so that it could blow over BEFORE the announcement.
They’re releasing this during the Hurricane because they’ll hoping it will blow over. Instead, its blowing up in their faces and will follow them, not because of the actual pregnacy, but because they tried to hide it.
Haven’t we had enough of politicians trying to bend or hide the truth from the American people?
Eight is enough.
Posted by: ml_ramirez626 | September 1, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
She still has my vote. I know as a parent that you can’t control this unless you want to go back to chasity belts.
This issue should be reported and then dropped. Going after someone’s child is not fair game.
Posted by: Tiffany | September 1, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Apparently a group called the “Council for National Policy” had heavy hand in getting her the nomination. Anybody know anything about this group?
Wikkipedia had very iteresting stuff about them
Posted by: Judy in Chicago | September 1, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Dems, the party that embraces easy sex and welfare, has no choice but to embrace this situation. Dems are all about widows, orphans, and single moms. They only thing that can legitimately object to is if the daughter marries.
Posted by: Rugglebum | September 1, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Why is God’s name would Sarah Palin put her family through this???
Talk about selfish ambition.
Posted by: Billy | September 1, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
For those of you saying that her choice to become VP has ruined her daughter’s privacy, realize that she is already a GOVERNOR of a state. Her family is already exposed. Statewide politics, just like country-wide politics, love to pick at irrelevant things like how families work.
For example, in Nevada, the newspaper loves to harp about Gibbon’s relationship with his wife.
Also, being a Governor of a state I would consider to be nearly as demanding a job as being the VP. If she can run Alaska while also having a family, she can probably be VP too.
If having a family were a disqualifier you’d think voters would prefer unmarried officials. Turns out the vast majority of presidents were married, and many had families.
Posted by: So what... she has a family. | September 1, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
All of you who have said Obama will win because of this news are losers. You know you were going to vote for him anyhow. Why would Palin’s 17 year old daughter’s news of pregnancy effect her run for vice president? If anything, it may help her because she can push for more awareness of teenage pregnancy. Maybe she could push for more money for the schools to have a better teen parenting class or sex ed class. I know for a fact students who have had babies say they wish they had a better understanding of what it really was like to have a baby before they had sex. Instead of teaching this in school, people had to cry and bawl how awful it was to have schools teach this subject and it should be up to the parents so schools cut it out of the curriculum. Well obviously that isn’t working either now is it? Instead of sending hate messages against Palin, wake up and see that maybe in the long run this is a good situation for future teens.
Posted by: Me | September 1, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Couple of things. Down’s syndrome is usually a condition of a baby when the mother is over 40. Teenager giving birth to one is pretty remote. So, give up the nasty rumor. Mary, the mother of Jesus, was approximately 15 when she gave birth to him and would have been shunned or worse by her society according to the culture of her time if she hadn’t married Joseph. My point is, she’s doing the right thing for our society by not aborting this child and it’s pretty wonderful that her family is so supportive. Everything that Sarah Palin has experienced so far in life has prepared her for this VP spot. I’m praying for all her family that they will not give in to the pressures and ugly hatred coming from the Obama Democrats.
Posted by: wild | September 1, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Americans should be more concerned with whether or not the presidential candidates can do a good job than whether their private lives are an example for everyone else to lead. Government should not be there to dictate the mores of the country, that’s for individuals to decide for themselves. So if Palin’s daughter is pregnant, that only reflects her family’s inability to practice what they preach. Politicians should stop trying to preach family values (that doesn’t help our country!), and instead preach economic recovery and social benefits, not mores!
Posted by: Ernest van DerDyke | September 1, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
First of all: congratulations to Bristol Palin, I wish her all the happiness in life.
Secondly: Mother Palin walks the walk and talks the conservative talk but it seems that her own family doesn’t agree with her extreme stances on abstinence and sex before marriage. This only shows how out of the mainstream this woman really is.
Posted by: Frederik | September 1, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
for people who put i wonder if this was obama’s daughter- first of all im SURE he would talk to her as would michelle and then they would let HER decide what she wanted to do!
we all know about how well it turns out when you force a woman into giving birth and being a mother when that isnt what she wants to do – casey is the example!
Posted by: melissa | September 1, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Really!!! How much exactly did McCain vet this woman. Can’t wait for the other skeltons to come crawling out of the closet.
Posted by: More to Come??!!! | September 1, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Steve,
You have an incredible amount of nerve! This democratic family lovingly cares for a seriously disabled child, who we knew would be born this way. It was OUR choice Stop trying to play God with everyone.
Posted by: doucet | September 1, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Oh well! She will be a good role model “family value” to teach our kids that you should have a baby at 17 or younger! having sex as young as you like! Gov. Palin!!!
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Well said Johnny!!
OBAMA08!!YES WE CAN!!
Posted by: RC | September 1, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Stories like this show the hipocracy of many people… Rep & Dems alike…
Posted by: Obama Binladen | September 1, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Bristol Palin should be the poster child for abstinence education.
Obviously it doesn’t work.
Posted by: Katie | September 1, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
I hope this blows up into a huge discussion about keeping a child and aborting one.
America needs to know the truth about Obama’s radical abortion stance.
The one he has been hiding for years.
Palin is one of us–something Obama never will be.
Posted by: riley | September 1, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
It’s pretty obvious, but for the good of everyone, this family really would probably do best far away from DC politics.
Posted by: Danny | September 1, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
The Democrats would prefer she has an abortion the way Obama said he would allow “if one of his daughters made a mistake in their teen years rather than ruin their lives.” Certainly, all of your kids will be perfect as they grow up.
Posted by: Barry In Las Vegas | September 1, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
“Sarah Palin – AMBITION FIRST!!”
I STRONGLY object to this. It’s sexist. Why are men allowed to pursue ambitious goals when they’re having babies in the family, but not women?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 1, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
I gave birth to a son with downs syndrome when I was 18 years old.
And I believe Bristol gave birth to Trig, also.
It is nothing wrong with Bristol having a baby and people shouldn’t judge her.
It is WRONG for Bristol’s mom to LIE about it, however, especially running for one of the most important positions in the American landscape.
It is not the baby, it is the Lie about the baby that is being attacked, and with every right.
Posted by: my ds baby | September 1, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
You leftists are evil.
Bless the Palin’s for being decent.
Posted by: Christoph | September 1, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
McCain should have picked the governor of Minnesota. He’s a fairly popular second term governor of a more populous state. It also would have given McCain Minnesota, which hasn’t gone red since ’68.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Mom knew. McCain knew. She becomes the nomine anyway. I think this is a positive thing. If Democrats criticize her for it, than they are hypocrites.
Posted by: RealChange | September 1, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
How many of YOU on this post has had a son or daughter in this position? How many of you had sex before marriage or as a teen and was just lucky enough NOT to get pregnant? You all are a bunch of hypoctites. At least the two of them are willing to step up and do the right thing. They obviously don’t consider the unborn life a “burden” like BHO does.
Posted by: LADNARC | September 1, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
If she was vetted this would have come out earlier. This was McCains ticket with the Evangelical base: McFossil and The Flat Earth Society. I don’t believe any other Republican would risk a long standing political career to be on his ticket. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS GOING TO IMPLODE!!!!! They cannot HIDE their news behind GUSTAV. The GOP is like cellophane tape, weak, thin and TRANSPARENT!!!!
Posted by: Libratine | September 1, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
THis goes to show the reality of the problem of teenage pregnancy. Even the strongest advocaters of abstinence, can not prevent teenage pregnancy. IT effects all social classes. I’m sure that the Palin family was a good family, but kids will be kids.
My only hope is that this problem isn’t made worse due to political pressures. I believe the boyfriend needs to be responsible in raising this child, but I would hope that neither child is being forced into a marriage by their parents, in a manner that was poorly planned as the child they are bringing into the world.
Posted by: amadeusmax | September 1, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
It’s obvious – the country and it’s officials are messed up because the electorate is psycho. Politicians should cease running on the platform of morality and telling me how to live my life. It’s obvious they could utilize the time to get their own houses in order. The victim here is the daughter. I don’t care how many babies she had. I’m an independent, poised to vote for Obama, but this type of violation of privacy, not to mention absence of decency, is another sign why the game of politics needs new rules. I am certain that Obama will have the class and lead by example in having nothing to do with this topic. Some ambitious individual on his staff mat not have the same judgment.
Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | September 1, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Hahahahahahaha. Obama’s is dancing right now. The golden girl is already beginning to lose her lustre.
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Anybody that thinks they can manage a seventeen year old should come back to reality. Seventeen year olds are capable of rebellion and independent action, regardless of the values of their parental model.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Republicans:
Preach small goverment, but give us huge government
Preach fiscal conservativism, but give us record deficits
Preach freedom, then spy on us
Preach pro-life, but love killing anything that breathes
Preach national security, but make the whole world hate us.
Preach morality and family values, then lie and cover up underage daughter’s pregnancies (yes, both preganancies). Stayed tuned to the news.
Posted by: clifton | September 1, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
I wonder how the Republicans will spin this.
Obama’s mother wasn’t a religious person. It’s a fact of hypocrisy. Their suppose to be committed Christians and to allow their child to be with a child out of wedlock.
People made such a BIG deal about Britney Spears younger sister.
The public will come up with their own opinion. But I know any mother who had a 17 year old child pregnant and whose youngest child at the age of 5 months has down syndrome woulds not run for VP of the United States.
It goes to her judgement.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 1, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
She can not take care of her family affair and you think she can be a PRESIDENT! What a joke!
Posted by: johnny | September 1, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
The young woman, Bristol was home-schooled and lives in the governor’s mansion. How was Levi sneaking in? Has either Bristol or Levi heard of condoms or birth control?
Posted by: John Paul Telhomme | September 1, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
As a Christian mother, this saddens me. How could she let this happen in her family? I am going to think more carefully about this woman.
Posted by: misty | September 1, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Interesting that McCain is trying to get political gain by talking about an attack from the Democrats that didn’t even happen. He makes it sound as though they have attacked when they probably wouldn’t even have bothered. The Palin choice was not a good one – being an interesting governor who still hasn’t been proven as a good governor is not enough for a VP spot. Anybody can see that, even if we like her.
Posted by: From Alaska | September 1, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
“Sarah Palin – AMBITION FIRST!!”
Sarah Palin-Liar!!
Cannot control her family!!
How will she control the Russia? Are u kidding me..Go back to Alaska!!Teach Family value there!! LIAR!!
Posted by: RC | September 1, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Mom of 3 – Why aren’t you slamming Obama for abandoning HIS children to run for President? Why is it ok for him to spend all this time running for President, but not for Palin to run for VP?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | September 1, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
I think if Obama had a 17 year old child who got pregnant while he was running for the presidency, the right would be hammering away with nasty comments, and I think these hateful comments by some people on this site is unnecessary, nobody is perfect, even the daughter of a VP.
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Back to what someone else said they came out and told the public about her daughter not obama’s people did not dig this one up. So why now bring this out into the open it’s like McCain and Palin both planed this out i don’t think Obama is attacking her kids she’s useing them for her own.
Posted by: Garrett | September 1, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
I think the real issue is that if her daughter knew how to use birth control, this would not have happened. Being a teen myself, as well as growing up in a area that has absedence only teaching, I know that a lot of girls in my area, including the girl who came in 2nd in my class, who got pregnant. These were not slutty girls, just once who did not know any better. The policy just does not work, and for Palin and McCain to keep funding a policy that does not work is not what our country need.
Posted by: Andie | September 1, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
The American tradition continues, how many of us marched down the aisle with one “in the oven” and how many of us were miracles, “born 6 or 8 weeks early, no complications”. It is a tough way to start a marriage but it is certainly not the end of the world. Sadly ,her condition is repeated over and over again to many who are younger, don’t know who the dad is and then supported by “we the people”.
Posted by: david | September 1, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
How is this breaking news? We have a powerful hurricane making landfall in the gulf with millions of residents evacuated and wondering if they will have a home to go back to and this is breaking knews? So Palin’s daughter is pregnant. This happens everyday in America. They will make the decision that is right for them and that will be the end of the story.
Posted by: Sandy | September 1, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
I’m a Democrat, and I feel nothing but sympathy for Sarah Palin and her family. This is an issue that faces many, many families, and I don’t think she should decline the nomination because the news got out. Big deal. From the article, it sounds like he daughter plans to marry the boy. That’s an honorable decision. No one should lambast Sarah Palin because her daughter was having sex. It’s the daughter’s responsibility.
Posted by: KC | September 1, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
I wonder if Sarah Palin would provide such loving support of her daughter had she been raped and made a decision to have an abortion?
Posted by: ben | September 1, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Wow – that’s a high profile poster child for the effectiveness of abstinence only sex education.
Posted by: VLL in NC | September 1, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
What’s the big deal ? The daughter is engaged to the father and they plan to marry soon. And we are electing Gov. Sarah Palin as the V.P. not her daughter. They welcome this , unlike Barack Hussein Obama who says that he does not want his daughters to be punished with a baby
Posted by: karpar | September 1, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
This isn’t about Bristol.
This is about Sarah Palin and her putting her ambition first and family second.
If you just had a baby with Down’s Syndrome and you knew your unmarried 17 year old daughter was pregnant, would you run for Vice President?
Posted by: Billy | September 1, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
I really don’t see why so many of you are excited about this. She is a 17 year old girl who is having a baby. Happens every day. It doesn’t, in my opinion, mean that Paline is any less of a Christian or that her “family values” are in question. Actually, the daughter is doing exactly what Palin stands for – (minus the premarital sex part, of course) she is getting married and keeping the baby. Show me one parent who can control a 17 year old’s sex life – either having sex or abstaining – and I’ll show you how delusional you are. I’m a Democrat and I don’t plan on voting for McSame but this story simply isn’t as sensational as the news media is reporting.
As for all of you right wingers who insist that every Democrat is having 100 abortions and kills every DS baby – please, GIVE IT A REST.
Posted by: allie | September 1, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
THis goes to show the reality of the problem of teenage pregnancy. Even the strongest advocaters of abstinence, can not prevent teenage pregnancy. IT effects all social classes. I’m sure that the Palin family was a good family, but kids will be kids.
My only hope is that this problem isn’t made worse due to political pressures. I believe the boyfriend needs to be responsible in raising this child, but I would hope that neither child is being forced into a marriage by their parents, in a manner that was poorly planned as the child they are bringing into the world.
Posted by: amadeusmax | September 1, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
You people who are passing judgement on a private family matter, are these the same people who who didn’t have a problem with PRESIDENT Clinton having sex in the oval office????
Posted by: Antohny | September 1, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
“HE WHO IS WITH OUT SIN CAST THE FRIST
STONE”
Posted by: VINNIE | September 1, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Oh grow up. I’m not a fan of the ticket but this is not news worthy of reporting.
Posted by: David | September 1, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
By the way, the news of an unmarried 17 year old having a baby is about as relevant to the campaign as Michelle Obama’s college thesis, meaning not relevant at all. The real question is has the 17 year old seen a consistent love of America from her parents over her lifetime. Or did her parents only become proud of America very recently?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
NEWSFLASH:
Obama was conceived out of wedlock.
family values?
ha!
Will Obama dare attack Palin, when he is the product of the same union?
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 1, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
John McCain,
Has no judgement!
He is too old to be President!
Johnny..please Retire and Have Sarah take care her 5 months old child and babysit her grandchild!!
Posted by: RC | September 1, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
By the way, the news of an unmarried 17 year old having a baby is about as relevant to the campaign as Michelle Obama’s college thesis, meaning not relevant at all. The real question is has the 17 year old seen a consistent love of America from her parents over her lifetime. Or did her parents only become proud of America very recently?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Obama later added, “I think that the American people also would like to see some restoration of decency to this process. And when you start attacking family members, there’s a lack of decency there.”
(but only if it is something against Dems)
Posted by: Phil | September 1, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
“…From the article, it sounds like (t)he daughter plans to marry the boy. That’s an honorable decision…” An even more honorable decision? Get married, THEN get pregnant.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
So her daughter is pregnant. Who cares? Why is this such a big deal and what does it possibly have to do with the presendial election. 17 year old girls get pregnant every day all over the world.
“As a Christian mother, this saddens me. How could she let this happen in her family? I am going to think more carefully about this woman.”
As for you, Get a grip on yourself and stop living in cave. “As a Christian Mother” Puh-lease.
Posted by: Sean | September 1, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Goon- how has Palin embarrassed her teenage daughter? We can teach our children what to do but we cannot always be in total control of them, especially at that age. I just hope that my young daughters will use proper judgement at that age but there’s no garauntee. Please, don’t be too judgemental on this girl. This family has a huge mountain to climb. Atleast, the young man will take responsibility and marry her. Which is not what the liberals want, they just want the government to take the responsibility. Palin’s daughter isn’t a public official and didn’t ask for this. Let’s keep with the main issues that Americans are concerned with.If the left wants to criticize, then let’s criticize Obama’s father for leaving. With a hurricane that is here and another one on it’s way, please, let’s stay focused.
Posted by: justrighttoo | September 1, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
As a Catholic thank you Governor to your daughter and her fiance for choosing life! I am so glad that your family never thought of this as a burden or punishment and took the easy way out. Your family has my utmost admiration! As far as those that want to make this an “issue” – this has been happening for centuries. There are very few families that can say this has not happened in some way to them. I’m sure if someone looked at the Obama or Biden family – someone else has had an unplanned pregnancy. Those unplanned ones are truly God’s blessings.
Posted by: cron | September 1, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
HAHAHAHA, thew election is over. The Republicans look like complete jokes!!!
Posted by: Zoner | September 1, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Does anyone know the age of Bristol’s “young man”?
Posted by: ben | September 1, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Palin’s um, family values huh? Do as I say, not as I do I guess.
Wow…
Posted by: Eddie | September 1, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
How can people blame this on Palin. We do the best we can with our children and at some point the responsibility to move forward with what we’ve taught them is theirs.
Posted by: Amy | September 1, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
To all who have posted here:
“He who has not sinned, let him throw the first stone.”
Posted by: kidlouie - Pennsylvania | September 1, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Elizabeth S.
What about woman that go to work anyway, dropping there kids at daycare, even if the husband has a job that can cover them. Wouldn’t leaving them at daycare to persue your job interests be abandonment?
Posted by: dan burkard | September 1, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
HAHAHA, this seals the deal for the democrats. Think the Republicans are regretting picking her? HAHAHA
Posted by: Gamesst | September 1, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Palen Supporters:
Don’t let this get you down.
Mothers and fathers that have been through this–and there are millions, will understand. They will symathize with her.
Anyone that has a child should not cast a stone. It could be you.
Palen is a fine choice for Vp–and she may very well be the first female president.
Keep your chin up.
Let the Obama supporters show there ignorance and lack of class as usual.
Goodness will prevail.
Posted by: riley | September 1, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
The whole “it’s Palins daughters child” had already been debunked.
Posted by: Phil | September 1, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
If one can’t keep one’s house the way one tells everyone ELSE to keep their house…how hypocritical is THAT?
No one is attacking the children.
People are upset because Palin can’t practice what she preaches.
How will this affect her choices and decisions for the American people?
Palin would rather drag her daughter into an embarrassing mess than give up the hope of a powerful position. Tsk.
Women: do NOT vote for this woman! She is NOT a feminist and is NOT watching your back! And, yes, I am a woman.
Eating mooseburgers, hunting, opening up oil lines, and picking off sister’s ex-husband does NOT a VP make.
Now…what was that about ‘what does a VP do, anyway?’
Posted by: Shakin' My Head | September 1, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Republican woman, stay away from me. Republican woman, mama let me be. Don’t come hangin’ around my door. I don’t wanna see your face no more. I got more important things to do. Than spend my time growin’ old with you. I don’t need your war machines. I don’t need your beauty queens. Northern lights can hypnotize. Sparkle someone else’s eyes. Goodbye, Republican woman. Goodbye, Republican chick. Goodbye, Republican broad … (Adapted from The Guess Who’s American Woman)
Posted by: hamishdad | September 1, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Kinda makes me wonder about this family values, Evangelical abstinence mantra, though.
Posted by: john Beavers | September 1, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
its funny to me how many people over look the fact that you are NOT suppose to have children out of wed lock but were thumping edwards for an affair?!!mmmm
and you want to throw in every chance you get what obama said on the issue but NOT bring up the fact that mccain said his daughter had the right to CHOOSE!!
Posted by: melissa | September 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Be Realistic, how do you hide a pregnancy from the public, stomach flat as a board, then have a baby out of no where. The down baby is her daughter baby, and she’s pregnant again. Plain, should have told the truth to McCain, and turned down the VP offer. This would have spared her and McCain, the embarrassment. However I would like to thank her for the Win!! OBAMA will be our next President. Thanks to John McLame and Brittney Spears Momma!
Posted by: Mercedes | September 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
I think I saw this movie. It was called “Juno.” But I don’t remember Juno’s parents being so sanctimonious. So much for preaching abstinence.
Posted by: Michael Brown | September 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
So I guess that this is supposed to squelch the rumors. But suppose she did cover for her daughter… what is one more lie, and what if — wonders never cease in this case — it turns out that they later allege that this newly reported pregancy ends up in an alleged miscarriage? If that raises any eyebrows it will be after the election in November anyway, right? For me, if the original rumors are credible, this well-timed “announcement” is not evidence either way. In the original rumor, people at the local health center would have had to have been in cahoots with the Governor — and that could still be the case. I’m not saying the rumors are true, only that this announcement has no bearing whatsoever on their plausibility — unless of course you for some reason believe this new “fact” — but then why would you have believed the initial rumor? On the other hand, if they lied then, they are lying now — and the “beauty” of it (for them) is that the truth of this new revelation is unverifiable, unless Bristol, unlike her mother, is actually showing signs of being pregant.
Posted by: frank burns | September 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Wow, suddenly the sinful Democrats look like the Godly ones. And Obama/ Biden look like the tougher ticket. My dear God! Things can change in a day.
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
I don’t see the problem here, teenagers are having babies left and right, what’s the difference?
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
karpar – what’s the big deal? The big deal isn’t so much about the baby. Palin is a proponent of abstinence teaching only. That is her policy platform. She failed at that even within her own family. If she is not effective enough WITHIN HER OWN FAMILY to promote her platform or if her platform is so wrong that it can’t succeed on such a small scale, how in the world is she going to promote the multitude of platforms of the United States within the realm of the WHOLE WORLD?
Posted by: not2much2say | September 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
HAHAHAHA, the Republicans are a joke!!!
Posted by: Seinfelder | September 1, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
“Why does it matter whose baby Trig is?” Are you serious? If Gov. Palin has lied about this, it shows a serious lack of judgement (and a pathology that is disturbing). If it doesn’t matter, tell the truth to begin with.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
I feel sorry for Bristol, but outrage for her mother. Sarah Palin is a joke, a sick joke to boot. This is a woman that is against abortion even in the case of rape/incest victims.
Posted by: Trish | September 1, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
mi_ramirez Would this be a reason for disqualifying a male candidate if either his teenage daughter or son were involved in an unplanned pregnancy?
I am strongly pro-choice and worked at Planned Parenthood for decade and in the HIV field for a decade and now for over a decade have worked with families on medicaid enouraging them to use their preventive health/dental benefits for their children. I am not a single issue voter and am clearly aware of Palin’s strong anti-choice stance and
position on abstinence only sex education. People will attack Palin, no doubt, on her stance on sex education but many of our young men/women out there do have information pertaining to contraception and STI’s afforded them in the school systems and have access to clinics such as Planned Parenthood where they would not need parental permission to access contraception or get tested for STI’s and yet we still see unplanned pregnancies among teens and high STI rates. I have no idea what education or services are afforded young people in Alaska and what the teenage pregnancy rate is in Alaska, but the point would still remain, that despite our good efforts to provide comprehensive sex education, family planning and STI education ( including an abstinence approach) that there will still be young people who get pregnant. McCain claims he knew this information in advance, and I have no reason to believe he didn’t, and given that I give him credit that he did not see this as reason to disqualify Palin because it won’t disqualify a male counterpart. There may be many reasons that Palin may not be suited to a VP position but this will not be one of them.
Posted by: alpaig52 | September 1, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Seal the deal? What happen to “Go ahead, have kids whatever age you want, its beeeeeeeeeeeeautful!” Your usually ready to beat anyone up for talking against girls having kids at a young age.
Stop being contradictory to fulfill your shortsighted plans.
Posted by: dan burkard | September 1, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Obama’s parents weren’t religious. The Palin family are. They are “committed Christians”.
What will find out tomorrow about Palin?
Posted by: Vanessa | September 1, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
“Republicans:
Preach small goverment, but give us huge government
Preach fiscal conservativism, but give us record deficits
Preach freedom, then spy on us
Preach pro-life, but love killing anything that breathes
Preach national security, but make the whole world hate us.”
Couldn’t have said it better myself. But what do you expect from a party so full of corruption?
Posted by: Mark Cannin | September 1, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Republicans generally lack judgement to lead. They act impulsively and even pre-empt possible constructive criticisms. How then can they ever learn.
When the blind lead the blind, they shall all fall into that ditch!
When a mother has failed her God-given responsibilty, she shld own up and resign, to focus on her family. Palin: I advise u quit politics and tend to your family. If u can’t take care of ur home, u can never lead a nation. That’s even more complex, ok?!!
Posted by: Concerned Observer of US Politics | September 1, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
IMAGINE THIS STORY IS ABOUT BIDEN OR OBAMA , HELL WOULD HAVE BROKEN LOOSE. WITH ALL KIND OF DAMNATION FROM REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES,IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRE AND BRIMSTONE STUFF.
Posted by: Benbuti | September 1, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
I thought for Reps. abstinence is what was working best for them cuz they think of themselves as more responsible than the rest of us.hmmm, Maybe planned parenting could have helped??? Or a parent period, dad’s out playing in the snow and mom’s playing politics. At least, this 17 yr old is fortunate enough to have supportive parents but, what of others who aren’t so lucky. Welp, they can raise this one and send it off to some war I’m sure we’ll still be a part of by the time it grows up. p
Shot guns weddings may come back in style with McCain/Palin in the white house. no thanks, for my son as well as my daughter.
Posted by: braith | September 1, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
I can’t believe that Democrats are celebrating this news. Human beings are autonomous, imperfect creatures.
When they were 17, what were the lives of our current political leaders like?Let’s see. George Bush was already an alcoholic; Barack Obama was regularly inhaling and doing “a little blow”; John McCain was a punk with a penchant for fighting; and Hillary was a small-government Barry Goldwater supporter.
When people are young and dumb, they do young and dumb things.
As a Catholic, I was raised to believe in the belief of original sin – that none of us our perfect. The mark of a Christian is how one responds to adversity. Do you get help and back on the path of Christ? Do you make the right CHOICE about a life that you have produced or do you literally bury your mistake?
While Bristol’s pregnancy is unfortunate, she is making the right choice as a Christian in taking responsibility for her actions.
The Palin family reflects the struggles of Christian America. Before you rejoice in their trials, I would suggest that this issue will simply give her more credibility with voters facing similar issues across the country.
Posted by: HillaryMomforMcCain | September 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Palin said ‘Country First, McCain second, GOP 3rd, family FOURTH!
woohoo a role model! got my vote!
Posted by: Janice | September 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Vanessa,
Shouldn’t you be focused on her politics, not personal family issues? Don’t you think as Democrats we should avoid politically attacking young unmarried females? Seems like its in bad taste.
By the way, Biden is quoted as saying that Palin is good looking. What’s that about?
If Obama and Biden are going to be the nominees shouldn’t they be above such crassness?
Makes you kind of miss Hillary doesn’ it?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
C-SPAN showed a focus group from Minnesota yesterday. I was surprised at the number of people who had real concerns about Palin being able to serve as VP with five children. While I disagree with those opinions, I do think that this news will have a negative effect on those people?
As for Obama, the Obama campaign has said nothing about this situation, and have said very little about Palin in general. There is a difference between blogs like the Daily Kos and the Obama campaign. It’s like believing that Fox News is the mouthpiece for the Republicans.
Posted by: Emma | September 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
What this shows is that McCain did not properly vet his VP pick. It was irresponsible of Palin to accept this nomination knowing her daughters pregnancy would come to light. How could she subject her daughter to such scrutiny?
I hope that my fellow democrats will be respectful to this young woman during a difficult time. We should focus on the fact that teaching abstinence does not work. We need to teach young people about responsible birth control.
With Palin as his VP choice McCain has proved he is irresponsible and rash in his decision making. Not qualities I want in a President.
Posted by: oregondem | September 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
McCain didn’t vet Palin. i’m glad that her daughter is keeping the baby, and i wish them all the best. but. . .
Posted by: N | September 1, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
this news will not affect the base republicans, but will affect the undecideds.
already so many stories coming out…
it’s really like soap opera.
Posted by: zen | September 1, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
As far as Palin covering for her daughter by pretending to be pregnant goes, I’ll wait on the Nationl Enquirer to get to the bottom of that.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
HAHAHAHA The Republicans are a joke!!!!
Posted by: HAHAHA | September 1, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Wow- all of these hateful comments from both sides! I feel very sorry for this girl and her baby brother. Someone on here questionned why Obama is not disparaged because he has two girls and is pursuing the Presidency. Well take it from me, I lost my mother at a young age, had a fabulous father, but there is no love like a mother’s love. I do feel like Mrs. Palin has put her own interests and ambitions above the obvious need for nuture these children have. I think it is very, very sad.
Posted by: proudncgirl | September 1, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
HELLO, people!!! This is not what i thought i’d be waking up to this morning. But since i’ve done that and pinched myself, i have to say i’m as shocked as anybody, liberal or conservative. But anyhow, the real thing here is simply this. Palin, knowing this could damage her career didn’t force her child into having an abortion just to protect herself. CONSERVATIVES, there’s no need attacking Obama here. Just let the news be reported and let’s move on. There still other battles we can win before november. Even Gustav is one of them.
Posted by: icen von | September 1, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
This family is entitled to make their own decisions about very difficult personal situations and I personally think it is ridiculous that we are having a national debate based on rumors over a situation that is none of our business in the first place. But if you choose to join the debate, the least you can do is get your facts right.
Posted by: Pongo | September 1, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Barack Obama should send flowers and cards to Sarah Palin for handing him a Presidency that he couldn’t have won on his own. God works in mysterious ways. If McCain had picked Romney and won Michigan, imagine how hard it would have been for Obama to win in November. What if he had picked Pawlenty and won Minnesota? Instead he picked a lying joke. A woman that reprsents for women what Clarence Thomas represents for blacks. Wow, the irony. My God, things can change in a day.
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Show me a conservative and I’ll show you a shameless hypocryte, if that girl would been obama’s daughter, you woulda seen all the conservatives, complaining about the moral fiber of the country vanishing or some crap like that, that woulda been non stop news and hyped up to make him seem unfit for the presidency
this is just the beginning, all of palin’s laundry is about to be exposed, you can expect much more of this in the next weeks to come.
Posted by: bj | September 1, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Gov. Palin is a strong proponent of teaching abstinence-only sex education to teenagers.
So what is she teaching is not what she is living.
Posted by: zen | September 1, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
THE BAD NEWS, THE GOOD NEWS!
Posted by: fifi | September 1, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Would this be a reason for disqualifying a male candidate if either his teenage daughter or son were involved in an unplanned pregnancy?
Not really, unless he is a holier than thou, self righteous republican like John McCain. It is called hypocisy.
Posted by: Jude | September 1, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
go ahead dems demonize her because i think this happens to many amercan familys to push this is to lose lots more votes than you could gain so go ahead push this issue as far as you can please we need all the help we can
Posted by: david reyes | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
It seems to me accepting the VP spot knowing that this was going to bring all this media attention on your child in what is going to be a difficult time is selfish of Palin. I thought Conservatives were about putting family first.
Posted by: tags | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Respect their privacy????? How about they respect “us”!!! Family values; her teenage daughter did not listen to her why would we and John McCain could not hold his family together, how could he hold whole country together. They think they can get away with some privacy? Hell NO! I wanna know who the hell we are dealing with, how many more scandals they have to deal privately before they have to deal with our country. Hell, sercj their cavities, I wanna know everything.
Posted by: BOBSTER | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Breaking News???? Good Lord.
Posted by: Laurie | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
“With Palin as his VP choice McCain has proved he is irresponsible and rash in his decision making. Not qualities I want in a President.” Exactly. And the Dems don’t have to do anything. Just stay on the sidelines, let this play out on its own, and try not to snicker.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
just another testimonial to show that “abstinence-based” sex education is a joke. It just promotes sexual repression that can result in teenage pregnancies and sexual perversions.
Posted by: Christine in ca | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Posted by: Tiffany >>
She still has my vote. I know as a parent that you can’t control this unless you want to go back to chasity belts.
This issue should be reported and then dropped. Going after someone’s child is not fair game.
The point is that she as a parent doesn’t know it, and she as a governor doesn’t want anyone else to know it. Nobody is going after her daughter – we all know she’s only human. If her mother had allowed her to have some real sex education, rather than “don’t do it!” maybe she wouldn’t be in this situation. And this is the woman you want as a role model in our country? Oblivious to reality?
Posted by: cturple | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
As a liberal, this makes feel better about voting for McCain/Palin. With a special needs child and a pregnant 17 year old, Palin KNOWS what REAL every day life is.
Posted by: hype bites | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Debra give them time. They will be over the cover of People too. This is life.
Posted by: Marie | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Maybe if Palin had spent more time with her young daughter, taught her something other than just abstinence and gave her the attention she deserves, this would not have happended. How on earth do you care properly for your 5 kids when you have such a demanding job..this isn;t a 9 to 5 job..neither was governor and now we see the results. I am a young women who beleives working moms should be admired but the family-work life balance has NOT been achieved by this women. She is NOT a role model.
Posted by: Kingwood Mom | September 1, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
If they were very supportive of their daughter´s choice and being a government official surrounded by a lot of rumors regarding the 5th baby, WHY KEEP IT A SECRET AND ADMIT ONLY AFTER THE RUMORS KEPT SPREADING IN THE INTERNET ?
WHY DIDNT SHE ADMIT IT TO THE PEOPLE OF ALASKA BEFORE SHE RAN ?
So shameful, this Palin woman runing for the 2nd highest office in America !
This isnt CONSERVATIVE behavior, this is DECEITFUL behavior.
Posted by: Paula Defensor | September 1, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Typical conservative double standard. Preach family values on one side, getting pregnant out of wedlock. Preach democracy, support all dictators.
Palin you are falin
Posted by: seenu | September 1, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Hey libs! palin has been in elected office for 13 years!…governor for 18 months.U guys are attacking this situation cause its all u got…and ur partisan actions make u look desperate.If anything this enforces she is a regular joe american! mccain/palin 08
Posted by: perry | September 1, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
The only think I find troubling is why would Sarah Palin accept this position knowing her daughter is 5 months pregnant?
The media will tear this poor girl apart and that’s not fair to her.
It seems Sarah put her own political agenda ahead of her poor daughters privacy and as a mother that doesn’t sit well with me.
Posted by: Kellie | September 1, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
How can people say this isn’t a big deal. What message are we sending to teenagers. Not to judge, but I think if Sarah Palin was paying a little bit more attention to her family, she could have talked to her daughter about 1)the dangers of having UNPROTECTED sex and 2) the difficulties of parenthood at young age. Really, how is she going to have one of the most demanding jobs in the world and care for her infant child and take care of her other children. I feel really bad for the kids. What about Family Values, have we all forgotten about them?
Posted by: Ra | September 1, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
So, Ms. Palin, why didn’t you teach your daughter about abstinence? I mean, if you’re not going to tell her what a condom is, then you need to tell her how sinful having a child out of wedlock is.
Posted by: dattexas | September 1, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Seems about right…….guns, teen pregnancy
Posted by: Elizabeth Haley | September 1, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
This is all about JUDGEMENT. Palin’s poor judgement has been coming out already, flip-flopping on the ‘bridge to nowhere’, the troopergate, choosing to continue such a campaign after just having a special-needs child. And the JUDGEMENT of McCain to hastily choose a gamble for VP, one he hadn’t actually met or vetted at all.
McCain is a maverick-gambler. Not someone we need gambling with the country.
Posted by: mos | September 1, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I thought only Republican (e.g. Karl Rove) make things up. Apparently, the liberal Democrats are capable of such things. You are just jealous that Sarah Palin is stealing your beloved BO’s thunder. :)
Posted by: cb34 | September 1, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
So much for pandering to women vote McCain. You choose the worng gal.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 1, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
So much for pandering to women vote McCain. You choose the worng gal.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 1, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I’m not sure why she would want to be VP and governor at the same time, with so many things going on in her life, I hope she can do it all.
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Leave this girl alone, for God’s sake. It’s absolutely no one else’s business outside the families. I cannot believe the news media even carried the story!
How on earth do people make themselves so important as to presume we need to know this?? I am so ashamed of the people who are critical about Bristol Palin or her mother…..what does this say about America?? Could it be that we are indeed destroying ourselves from within.
Posted by: Nancy Robertson | September 1, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Really, having a child at 17 is not the issue. Something else is wrong–but, we just do not know for sure “what the else is, yet.” Just like the Edwards scandal, it will come out. We are not stupid, so Palin cannot hope to keep the truth from America much longer. She needs to do the right thing, tell the truth (what ever it is) and step aside so McCain can choose someone else. I wish Palin all the best–she needs help and someone close to her should reach out to her and do that. As for McCain, he needs to have better judgement. He is not ready to be in charge.
Posted by: vikki | September 1, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
This is one of the things most parents fear, but it happens. … Those of you with prefect families will I’m sure be condescending enough to send gifts to the wedding shower and baby shower. How better to demonstrate your superiority than public gifts charity? … Those of us with imperfect families have our own problems to deal with.
Posted by: Oonogil | September 1, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Just because Sarah Palin believes in abstinence herself doesn’t mean she can FORCE it on her daughter! When was the last time any of you were able to control the behavior and actions of your teenager? You can teach them your values, but that doesn’t mean they are going to adopt those as their own. And that girl can even believe in abstinence and then had a ‘slip’. It happens – people act against their values. I was taught not to steal but I shoplifted a lipstick when I was thirteen. It isn’t the best set of circumstances for her daughter and will make her life a little rougher, but it isn’t ‘shameful’. This is 2008.
Posted by: puppyfeet | September 1, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
The only relevance this story has to her campaign is that I would want to know if her position on abstinence only sex education has changed. I think abstinence only sex education does not work, and as a voter, I would like to know if her position still holds despite her family’s situation. This is an important issue in our nation, and it is linked directly to abortion. One of the ways to help reduce abortion is to promote safe sex, and be more realistic about what our teens are doing. If we don’t want to help them protect themselves against disease and pregnancy, then abortion should be an option.
Her daughter is lucky enough that the father, whom I’m assuming is about the same age, is willing to step up and take responibility and her family is going to stand behind her all the way and support her. Many pregnant teens don’t have that same support system.
Abstinence only education is a ‘head in the sand’ approach. If she has changed her mind on this, I’d love to her it and I might just consider voting for her ticket. Otherwise, I’m saying no to Palin.
Posted by: me | September 1, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Why is it that the liberals accept and reward inner city young women and unwed mothers of blue collor backgrounds with welfare, subsidies, job training and low income housing, but when it’s daughter of a Republician, it’s suddenly taboo and news. Get a grip, quit playing both sides of the issue, and expecting double standards. Briston Palin is 17, and not a public oficial, she’s not running for office, her mother is. It’s a non issue, I wonder how many Democrat and their delegates are or were single unwed mothers, who were on welfare and profess a success story of working their way out of the inner city and to “better themselves”. America needs ot get over the trivial issues, quit throwing stones, after all, we all live in glass houses. Vote on the real issues in the election, terrorism, the economy, jobs, health care and the future of the country. WHo has the experience of running a government (state of federal), not just running a campaign, of extensive foreign policy, not just going on a rock star tour of countries to citizens who’s vote doesnt matter here in the USA. Get real liberals, it’s time to put up or shut up. You can’t have it both ways!!!!!
Posted by: Liam W | September 1, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Wow….The perfect hypocrite ticket!
Posted by: Tparker6 | September 1, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
c-turple..let’s assume I agree with everything you said…do you think propelling her daughter into this limelight is what is best for her…it is child cruelty…you know it..any mother would put her child first and NIOT her career…you can have it all but you have to have your priorities straight. if you don;t care what kind of mother she is, then fine vote for her based on her ideology but the only thing we know about her is this and that her 4 month old went back to Alaska without her for who know how long.
Posted by: Kingwood Mom | September 1, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
HOLY COW!!! I can’t wait to see how FOX NEWS and the Republicans try to spin THIS ONE! I knew John McCain’s decision to put this woman on the ticket would turn out to be one of the BIGGEST BLUNDERS IN POLITICAL HISTORY.
Posted by: p1tey1 | September 1, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
“ALTHOUGH IF THERE’S ONE THING IN THE WORLD A PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO “COVER-UP”, IT’S THE PRIVATE MATTER OF ONE’S DAUGHTER’S PREGNANCY.” And the American people have the right to say, NO THANK YOU! Get your own house in order (as Obama and his VP pick have) before seeking the White House.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
If governor Palin cannot control and handle her underage daughter, do you really expect her to be fit for presidency? Wow. What a blunder by McCain. Until he picked her, he at least had a chance against Obama/ Biden. However, now he all but handed the election on a silver plate to the democrats.
Posted by: JB | September 1, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Any Democrats that are dancing because you think that conservatives are going to abandon McCain/Palin because of a child’s action should go get a check up. From the other side, I’m still going to vote for Obama and Biden, because I think they will pick better Supreme Court candidates than the other side. However, the other side is likely to bring even greater numbers to the fight for this very same reason. For those that think Obama has it in the bag you need to wake up before it’s too late.
I won’t feel bad if McCain wins, but that four years before a Hillary run is a long wait.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
I am so angry, I can’t believe all of the self righteous and judgmental comments on this topic. You had better pray that you never find yourself in similar circumstances, maybe your remarks will come back to haunt you. This election is only historic to me now in how it has turned so many Americans into back biting, hateful, self centered, and mean spirited proponents of a political candidate. People who are ripping on Gov. Palin’s private family matter should turn their telescope on themselves and see how perfect they are.
Posted by: dwc | September 1, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
“david reyes”
You are right. This is happening to a lot of American families, and that is why none of them qualyfies to run for any public office. If this happened to Bush’s daughters, you really think he would win again? I THOUGHT TEXAS GIRLS ARE WILD, BOOOOOY, WAS I WRONG!!!!!
Posted by: BOBSTER | September 1, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
“Let those without sin cast the first stone”
Posted by: CAO | September 1, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Of course the proper democratic response to the whole matter would have been what? Abort the down syndrome child as being burdensome and disruptive to her political career, and then promote her 17 year old daughter to do the same, for her own selfish reasons, and rationalize it as being “in the best interest of her young immature daughter.” Typical response…never, never accept responsibilty for your own CHOICE if the consequences are “undesirable.”
Sarah, her husband and daughter have faced the reality of life head on. We are not sinless. They have made the right decesion in seeking and granting forgiveness within the family and before God. Mercy and Grace. That’s the kind of LEADERSHIP we need.
Go ahead, and pick up your stone. It will only be one more that will be laid upon your own grave.
Posted by: wantastone | September 1, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Issues what issues? It’s Smeerin time.
This like all smear tactics will dwindle. I hope. Oh ye of little subtance please debate the mother on the values of abortion and premarital sex.
Posted by: Al | September 1, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
This issue has nothing to do with her daughter. It is an issue of honesty and judgement. Why did the McCain campaign try to hide this? What else are they hiding? The election is two months away, we cannot take a risk on the McCain/Palin ticket.
Posted by: Pearl | September 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
“I can’t wait to see how FOX NEWS and the Republicans try to spin THIS ONE!” Me either. They’ll take the sympathy route and talk about the difficulty of raising families.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
WestCoastMessenger said “By the way, Biden is quoted as saying that Palin is good looking. What’s that about?”
He also said Obama was handsome and that next to him he looked old.
Someone in the audience said Biden was GORGEOUS.
I say Obama and Biden will be the sexiest President and VP in US history.
Posted by: dotheresearch | September 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Would it be indelicate at this point to bring up Joe Biden’s other son. You know the one with the long police record for drunk driving and use of controlled substances. And this with a DAD you always came home every evening after a trying day in the senate.
Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | September 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
andie—a life is a gift not a punishment as obama has stated. second if we all were liberals it would be like in china where the babys life would be decided by the government not the parents. maybe we can understand that the main issues of the difference between the liberals and conservative has come front and center. may sarah’s daughter recieve joy beyond measure from this gift from god. tell what you are saying to all the babies who are now alive that were from a teen pregnancy if they would rather their mother had not given birth as a young mother. perspective– you need perpective
Posted by: cisc | September 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
This is actually going to help the republicans. This will rally some of Clinton’s feminists for Palin. Read the comments. This 17 year old became pregnant and she is being called white trash, a ####, ######, #####. What about the male that got her pregnant? And why is it the FEMALE governor’s fault. If she was a male governor, should she have been expected to stay home and “this never would have happened.” This is what women are fighting so hard against. Sexism is alive and strong amongst the democrats!
Posted by: Jazz | September 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Does Gov. Palin support abstinence-only education?
Posted by: Rodham Democrat | September 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
LIAM says “Why is it that the liberals accept and reward inner city young women and unwed mothers of blue collor backgrounds with welfare, subsidies, job training and low income housing,”… LIAM, what would you and the Republicans do..let them DIE in the streets…just because we Dems want to TAKE CARE of kids that are born to either bad or poor parents doesn’t mean we want to elect a BAD parent…get real. Those anti-lib talking points from Rusho are lame. What does you gut tell you about this women and the time she doesn’t spend with her kids…
Posted by: Kingwood Mom | September 1, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
The issue is not that Sarah’s daughter is pregnant, the issue is that Sarah believes in abstinence only curriculums, which now are clearly proved ineffective. With the two young parents set to marry to raise their baby, we will see another ideology fail to work, as the majority of marriages among teenagers (in this day and age) fail. The saddest part: Sarah will not alter her beliefs in light of the truths.
Posted by: mcc | September 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
“Obama’s parents weren’t religious. The Palin family are. They are “committed Christians”……
I’m sorry but just because a person may not be religious doenot mean they have no values. Most families whether religious or non-religious do not want their daughters or their sons to start families so young. However, once there is a baby, its upto the family to handle this the way they can. Gov Palin could have secretly had her daughter have an abortion to save her political career ambitions. Palin and her daughter obviously stood by the mistake and their convictions and will move forward.
They are much braver than the weasal male priviledged beneficiary, John Edwards along with the media who lied to the American public for two years!
Posted by: eviee | September 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
I am an Obama supporter but I think people should leave this family alone. Every family has difficuties and joys. this family needs privacy to deal with this issue and if you are Christians, pray for them. I admire Gov. Palin’s decision to have her own child. If you are going to criticize her, attack her political positions but leave her family alone.
Posted by: Mary | September 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
JB,
Obama could not control and manage his close friend and pastor of twenty years, Jeremiah Wright. Your angle makes about as much sense.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
I wish them all the best. I have no experience with this as I was taught about the pitfalls and perils of getting in this type situation when I was growing up. While she will of course not have an abortion, this is the EXACT situation which leads to many. Kids who are taught nothing at all or simply that they should not have sex. And then they have no knowledge of how to protect themselves if they do. Some kids don’t even know what gets you pregnant or these wives-tales of how to prevent them. Preparing our kids for life and the world outside the parents’ home can be tough but it is necessary. Sadly, many of the same parents who do not prepare their own kids are the same ones up in arms against schools that try to fill that void.
Posted by: TSnow27604 | September 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
For those who keep saying McCain did’t vet his VP….did you not read the article…..he knew and felt she should not be disqualified, and nor do I. This is her daughter, who will be 18 soon and capable to marry and raise a child (in Alaska, I’m guessing). THIS WILL BE A NON ISSUE IN A WEEK OR SO.
STILL A HAPPY HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN……and I myself, would have probably taken my daughter to planned parenthood, but admire the Palins for standing by their daughter.
They really walk the walk.
For all we know….PALIN DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT HER DAUGHTERS PREGNANCY UNTIL AFTER McCAIN CHOSE HER, AND THEN BRISTOL FESSED UP TO MOM….AFTER. It was all kept so secret, I don’t think her kids knew until the last minute, their mom was the VP.
Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
I am an Obama supporter. If the Governor of Alaska who is running for Vice President had lied to the American people about having been pregnant and having bravely chosen to be better than most of us by not aborting a child with Down Syndrome, that would be a significant issue. Barring some sick occurrence where her parents had some influence over her becoming pregnant, the fact that a child got pregnant is none of our business.
Posted by: William in IL | September 1, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
It breaks my heart that anybody would be judging this family. They are the epitome of a wonderful loving family that obviously faces their crisis head on together. Sarah Palin did not get to be the VP candidate without rising above many obstacles. Stop this insanity you mean lousy sexist dems.
Posted by: granny | September 1, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Let’s just all agree that McCain can have a do-over. We will all suspend judgement – all of us have make bad choices – let’s give him time to fix it.
Posted by: Lynn | September 1, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
I think this issue makes her more of a woman, dealing with an issue that many families face each day. Speculation on what they would have done had the daughter been raped etc. is just that; speculation. The dems. sadly will clutch on to a straw when they drown in the depravity of their own hypocrisy. It seems now their “morality” demands she should have had a sitter for her 17 yr old!
Though I don’t support teenage pregnancies outside marriage, I respect kindness and wisdom in dealing with someone who has made a mistake. Sarah Palin talks for many families that have courageously stood by their children in very demanding circumstances. In this case, circumstances that can be publicly embarrassing, and used for selfish political gain.
Posted by: liz48 | September 1, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
The republicans need to recongnize and respect that the world is evolving, technolgy is fastly changing and so are the generations of people. You can not run the United States as if we were in the 1900′s. The United States is constantly changing. The U.S. is a melting pot. This is why I am a democrat. The democrats GET IT and the republican’s are still trapped in the past. God created us all equal; whites, blacks, asians, hispanics,etc. and from all the various creations different religions emerged. Instead of forcing your christan values down one’s throat, you should accept and respect the values of others. There is no right or wrong. God created us all and we should respect that. Diversity, respect and acceptance is the key.
This is why I support Senator Obama… Under no choice of his own, he was born into a diverse culture. He is not African American nor White American. He is an White-African American. He understands diversity and respecting people for who they are regardless of their race or religious affiliation. Obama GETS IT!
Obama/Biden 08 & 12!!!!
Posted by: LLM | September 1, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
These kind of things happen to the best of families and that is a fact. If she was never picked to be the future Vice President we wouldn’t have heard anything about the child having a child. That does not reflect on her at all as mother. Kids today just do not listen they do what they want to do no matter what.
Case in point my sister was always watching her children but her son got a girl with child and there was nothing she could do but accept what happened. What else could she do.
At the very least she is going to marry the father of the baby that is what should happen the baby will have a legal name if they divorce right after the marriage they do but at the very least she will have a father’s name to put on the birth cerificate.
The thing I want to know will she be able to run the Country the way it should be run that is what is more important. She has a lot of background in government and that is a fact but it is the right background? I know not.
She running a house with five (5) children and that is hard enough not judge her until we see the entire picture OK!!!
MAY GOD BLESS OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY NOW AND FOREVER AS I AM SURE HE WILL!!!
Posted by: Carol | September 1, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
i think it is great the palins are walking the walk. Her daughter made a mistake. But she is taking the hard route. The right route. She and her child will be thankful for the decision she made. Sarah keeping her down syndrome child. that is walking the walk. Nobody is perfect.
Everything about Palin is the antithesis of Obama. The most pro abort person to ever run for office.
Posted by: rich | September 1, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Are you all sitting down?
Women procreate.
There, now all of the Chappaquiddick Democrats who do not allow any woman 1st position can begin to think more clearly.
Woman is not a disability, nor should it reduce them to some sort of second class citizen to any male.
This information might shock all of you.
Say, didn’t Obama have a family he refuses to discuss?
At least Palin can talk easily about her all American average family.
Yes, believe it or not more American families have 17 year olds and have been 17 years old than you might think.
Posted by: dotty | September 1, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
leave her alone, as well as her family. Nobody can remark on anything, unless they have been in the same shoes
Posted by: Sydnee | September 1, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Life is a beautiful thing. McCain/Palin08, Biden08
Posted by: Kitty | September 1, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Isn’t Juno a city in Alaska? Coincidence?
Posted by: Michael | September 1, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Wow – You are just being insulting about this girl. That’s offensive. We don’t know the circumstances. Do you have children? Sarah Palin has issues, just like the rest of us. She’s human and like her daughter, makes mistakes. Somehow, these nasty posts just can’t fathom that Palin’s family is like most Americans. Atleast Bristol has decided to keep the baby unlike Obama who said he didn’t want his girls to be punished with one. Take out the plank in you eyes, Obama supporters, before you take out the speck in someone else’s.
Posted by: justrighttoo | September 1, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
This means that Sarah Palin and the mother of Britney and Jamie Lynn Spears now have something in common. Think that’ll make it into a McCain ad?
Just love those kooky Christian conservatives!
Posted by: Aidasan | September 1, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
find no fault in Gov Pilan because her teenaged daughter being pregnant. Any one with Kids knows a parent cant control a teenager 100 percent of the time and a 17 year old at that. That doesnt sway me one way or the other. What does is Palins non enviromental policies and her low opinion on animals and their lives. For someone to go out and shoot 40 animals for sport is a horror story and she will put money and oil before nature and any animals welfare. That speaks more about her values that having a 17 year old daughter that gets pregnant. Obama 08
Posted by: CW | September 1, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
McCain shot from the hip, and will now have to suffer the consequences.
Fortunately, we do not have to suffer with him.
Posted by: Steve T | September 1, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
By the way, I thought one of Obama’s big claims is that he is a Christian as well. I find it deeply disturbing that people running for the highest offices casually mix church and state together. It makes about as much sense as when a football player says his team won because of God’s actions. Let’s keep at least keep it separate from politics. However, let’s pray to God that the Dallas Cowboys make a comeback.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
May I remind Palin’s detractors here that since she is governor of Alaska her family life is already in the public eye? She is not sacrificing her daughter for her her own gain. Nor is it hypocritical of her to be for abstinence only sex education. Good Lord, haven’t we all done things our parents didn’t approve of that we knew were wrong? And that means our parents should abandon their principles because their children don’t always behave as the parents wish they would? Here is the glaring difference between the Right and the Left: We on the right know we’re not perfect and we have principles that we or our children don’t always live up to. But at least we have them. If this were Obama’s grandchild we’d never know because that child would be “bio-hazardous waste” in a dumpster somewhere. Keep hammering this, Dems. It just exposes you for the creeps you are.
Posted by: margaret | September 1, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
“This is her daughter, who will be 18 soon…” Another spin. One of thousands to come this week. This will be a zany, hilarious week in the political history of this country. Like one long continous loop of “Laugh-In” (that old show from the 60s).
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Congratulations on getting a early start on overpopulating the earth!
Posted by: muckraker | September 1, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Sarah and Todd Palin state they are “proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents.”
Was choice an option in the Palin household? How can that be? Something doesn’t seem genuine here.
Posted by: Kat | September 1, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Notice she anounces it durring Gustav. There’s a fearless leader for you.
Posted by: Mark | September 1, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
“I am an Obama supporter but I think people should leave this family alone. Every family has difficuties and joys. this family needs privacy to deal with this issue and if you are Christians, pray for them. I admire Gov. Palin’s decision to have her own child. If you are going to criticize her, attack her political positions but leave her family alone.”
Thank you Mary, for your open mindness. Attacking a family or for that matter the two women who are standing up to the challenge should not be attacked in such a manner.
Posted by: eviee | September 1, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
“Gov. Palin is a strong proponent of teaching abstinence-only sex education to teenagers.”
Obviously not a GOOD teacher!
Posted by: RealityChick | September 1, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
I know how painful it is for the righties this week. Their conservative “abstinence poster child” has to reveal her teen daughter is pregnant, then a hurricane rolls in to remind us how compassionate and caring the last Republican administration was….. Oh my goodness, maybe God himself is voting democrat this year!
Posted by: tdub | September 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
someone said that we are human and make mistakes. So do you think John Edwards can now ever get elected. Why can we not forgive him and set our morals aside, as you want us to for Sarahs daughter and her family.
Posted by: rob in texas | September 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
“I bet Mitt Romney is laughing his head off”
I agree. He was clearly the better choice of all the choices availible.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
It is a shame how low you Obama worshipers will go when you are worried that your Demogod Obama won’t win. Every stab you take at Palin and her family and the GOP knocks you and your party sown a peg. Mud thrown is ground lost. And you Obama nuts are just about out of ground.
Posted by: pumphouseplus | September 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
“For those who keep saying McCain did’t vet his VP”
Well, he obviously didn’t BEFORE he announced her nomination. Andrew Halcro is reporting: “The campaign of John McCain has sent a staff of eight people into Alaska to conduct background checks and vetting on Governor Sarah Palin. They have eight rooms reserved at a Wasilla hotel.”
This sounds an awfull lot like how the McCain/Bush admin went into Iraq: Fully Unprepared.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Hmmm? This is troubling. I’m starting to question whether McCain is being affected by mild senility. Did his campaign (and the GOP by proxy) adequately vet Palin? Or was this a total “Hail Marry Pass?”
Down syndrome new born and a pregnant minor?! Is she so blinded by ambition that all of these other worldly concerns (parenting, putting her family through the meat grinder, etc.) fall by the wayside? How is that demonstarting effective judgement and reasoning by an individual who is a heartbeat away from being the Commander in Chief?
I think the GOP needs to do some soul searching and finally dispense with the Christian Right and their associated culture wars. It’s time to get back to their Libertarian roots and focus on what actually matters to the general public at large. I’m saddened that the Neo-Conservatives are leveraging McCain. He is no longer the independent maverick that he was labeled in prior elections. He’s the same ol’ same ol’…no pun intended
Posted by: Tony | September 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Trish,
What are you gloating about? Obama hasn’t even been fully vetted yet.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
These pepople are gonna turn White House in kindergarten. However, I am sure those kids could make smarter decisons than Bush and Chenney.
Posted by: BOBSTER | September 1, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
No liberal is going to attack her. We’re the party that supports young people who make mistakes and give them CHOICE. We’d also be teaching the use of condoms and the harms of STDs in school. The only thing as a liberal I see here is IRONY! Palin was a poor choice for VP and hopefully all this does is open some republican eyes to some problems facing our youth.
PS: Can you say Shotgun wedding? The girl is 17. Not ready for a baby, and not ready for marriage.
Posted by: kcbme | September 1, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
This doesn’t sway my vote in the least. I was a Hillary supporter now turned McCain/Palin supporter. The issues and my country is what I care about. BTW, hasn’t it been the Obamanites all this time saying the issues and our country should be our focus, not a little dirt here and there on people?
Posted by: Amy | September 1, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
The comments on this thread are appalling.
People seem to forget what it was like to be 17 or were you all born adults?
I came from a conservative Catholic family, went to Catholic school all my life. I was taught all about abstinence as a religious value, but I was also taught about real life. Besides there is enough information out there.
I made a conscious choice to not abstain – am I going to blame my parents for my choice? Hell no. For all of you saying “if she had spent more time with her daughter”…hello? are you people out of touch! If a teenager wants to have sex, unless you lock them up in a windowless room, they will have sex.
This is so normal in this day and age that it is a non story. An to all those attacking their family values, don’t be morons. They are showing they practice what they believe in in supporting their daughters decision to keep the baby rather than aborting it.
Please get over yourselves and maybe try to think of other people other than yourselves.
Posted by: Adriana | September 1, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
This is about hypocracy! Palin preaches family values, yet accepts a full time gig while the nanny, I presume, raises her children. She preaches abstinence and her daughter gets pregnant out of wedlock. She preaches creationism which is a faith based teaching, yet would she allow the Muslim or metaphysical or any other faith based view of life on earth to be taught in the public schools? These radical right wing Republicans are hypocrites living in a pretend world. No more, no less.
Posted by: Susan in L.A. | September 1, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
I admire the Palin’s for standing by their daughter – if she were Obama’s daughter he “would not want her to suffer for a mistake” and condone an abortion to “save” the situation. This is a personal matter and it would serve to do no good to use it as a political weapon (it will backfire) considering some of the morally questionable on the Dem side of the isle (lest we forget Clinton and Edwards judgments).
Unfortunately, these situations are more commond than they are unique I am VERY happy that this child will not be considered a “mistake.” The Palin’s judgement and decisions are a tribute to their ability to lead.
Posted by: sarajo | September 1, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
My concern is Palin’s lack of sound judgement. A 44 yr old, high risk pregnancy in her last month of gestation, getting on a plane for 8 hours w/ ruptured membranes & contractions,only to put her already known high risk, premature newborn at even higher risk. How did a gravida 5 not deliver a preemie on the plane? Then she leaves the child after 3 days of age to return to work?
Wow. Now she is encouraging and supporting her 17 yr old to marry? No doubt she encouraged her eldest son to enlist. I only wonder if it wasn’t to promote her own intersts.
Yeah.. life happens. Our children make risky choices. But I don’t further manipulate the situation to benefit myself.
Palin = Poor decision maker.
But more importantly
McCain’s first decision in a pres. elect role…picking his VP was HORRIBLE.
Posted by: mom24 | September 1, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
I am with the guy who said he without sin cast the first stone
Posted by: debra meis | September 1, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
OMG!!! She really is an American and has real American problems.
Posted by: Kris S | September 1, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
This makes one of Bush’s daughter’s licking her tongue out at a reporter look kind of tame.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Give me a break! No parent can be with their children 24/7. How many of you have had relatives whose daughter has become pregnant or whose son has gotten a girl pregnant? It is NOT the fault of the parent. We can only try to pass along our moral values as parents, and cannot FORCE our children to listen. How many of you have had premarital sex or sex out of marriage? My guess, many! I am not about to judge Sarah, her husband, Bristol, or Levi because it is not my place to judge. I applaud Bristol and Levi for their decision to be responsible at that young age; even if the marriage fails. Remember, those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Posted by: msrockeringa | September 1, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
When something like this, early pregnancies, drunk driving, etc. they attack the parents as roll models. I look at my own family with four other siblings. My oldest brother is a professional photographers, next youngest is a ground controller for planes. The next youngest at one point was an exotic dancer but now holds a Phd, the next youngest is plain and simple a thug, he’s sold drugs, weapons, everything. After all them there is me, I am a robotics technician. I love my parents, strong backbones, hard workers, clean living but more then all that all five kids have the same parents. Sadly kids that wander astray, well it just kinda happens.
Posted by: Adam O | September 1, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
I remember hearing the cheering crowds when Obama spoke as the masses lent their ears. To paraphrase the great one, men need to take care of their children. This man, Levi, should be granted greatness status for doing exactly what the OH GREAT ONE told his people to do and they in turn cheered for in that grand stadium where football is played.
Posted by: Kitty | September 1, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
I personally believe that this scandal is going to help the mccain campaign. However, everyone should let the daughter out of any political discussion. She is 17. She can live her life and make her decisions. Good for her there are friends and families to support her. Her pregnancy isn’t her mother’s fault or responsibility and doesn’t make Gov. Palin less capable of being a VP.
I am voting Obama.
Posted by: arjun | September 1, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
I REPECT HER PRO LIFE STANCE, afraid OBAMMAS would seek an abortion, based on their beliefs
Posted by: MIKE GUYTON | September 1, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
This VP nomination is really becoming a joke. Thanks McCain. Obama/Biden in 08
Posted by: S | September 1, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Ahhh…. Now, the MSM will go crazy with this issue…. .
It is a family issue that is not uncommon across the country. Many people posting on this topic can probably relate to this situation.
A tough decision was made by Palin’s daughter. She and her husband will have to accept the responsibility of their child just as millions of other young mums in the past and the future.
After all, Obama was also loved and raised by a mom who found herself in the same predicament at the age of 17 and without the help of Obama’s father.
Just think if Obama’s mother had decided that abortion was the answer for her situation.
Obama would not be able to accept the nomination for the highest office in the USA.
Who knows what a child may become unless given a chance to live and achieve their goals and aspirations.
Posted by: Dawn | September 1, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Hey, CONSERVATIVES, let’s just let the liberals have this. Please stop attacking Obama. He did nothing here. And, LIBERALS,be careful. You people are pushing this too much. Palin did the right thing by putting family and human life before career. She could have forced the kid to have an abortion just to save her own face, but she didn’t. Now there’s a conservative that deals with modern realities, and we can be proud of.
Posted by: icen von | September 1, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Good god, people are sitting here trashing a woman because she has a teenage daughter who is pregnant and yet the other day I just sat and listened to how the Kennedy family is passing on the torch to Obama. Now there’s a wholesome family. I am a strong admirer of Ted Kennedy but there is a family that has endured infidelity, drug addiction and alcoholism, accusations of rape , driving offenses or accidents that have resulted in death and so on. We have seen our share of individuals in public service, be it Democrat or Republican,
struggle with family issues that many in this Country have, are or will be struggling with at any given time.
I’d like see neither side engage in the hypocrisy we see over and over where it’s a huge deal if it’s your opponent and their but you can find a way of justifying it if it pertains to your candidate.
Posted by: alpaig52 | September 1, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Hey, will the McCain camp now make another TV ad about celebrities, but instead of showing Britney and Paris, show Britney’s teen sister Jamie and her illeg. baby next to the Palin’s?? Look, we’re celebrities, too!!!! Gotta love hypocrites!!! And Karma!!
Posted by: Godluvsusall | September 1, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
McCain made the right choice.
And all of these viscious attacks prove it.
You are so afraid of Sarah Palin that you hate her and her children.
You’re so mad at Obama because he didn’t get a bounce from his rediculous Temple speech. That he can’t pull ahead in spite of his money and his charm.
You should be afraid of Palin.
She has energized the GOP and made Obama’s choice of Biden look like the ticket of two old Washington cronies.
Be afraid of Sarah–attack her.
It won’t help.
Posted by: riley | September 1, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Yes, RC, I noticed how they announced this news during the height of Gustav. “Okay, wait…, wait…., not yet…. [Gustav hits the coast], okay now!” By the way all, it is not so much that Palin’s daughter is pregnant (it happens to DEMs and REPUBs alike), it just that REPUBs like to be so righteous, and holier-than-thou) with these sorts of issues.
Posted by: Tnette | September 1, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
So…had the internet rumors not happened, were McCain and team planning to keep the pregnancy a secret from the American people until after the election?
I do hope people leave the kids alone, but Palin herself is as public a figure as they come. She owed it to the American people to be more up-front about this, especially since she and the Republicans have made her family sort of her calling card as to why she’s supposedly the moral example we’re all supposed to follow.
Posted by: stan | September 1, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
First woman VP, and youngest grandmother, to be in the White House. Is that the kind of history you want to make, America? Let’s get past this joke situation and let two serious men, Barack Obama and Joe Biden, get to work for the people.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Let me be very clear… I personally dont give a hoot that Palin has a pregnant unmarried teenager….
BUT this IS yet another reason for these hypocritical eveangelical conservatives to STOP trying to push their notions of ideals and values down our throats, ideals I might add, they themselves can’t live up to.
THAT is the basis of our comments…
Posted by: nerakami | September 1, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
["Now she has a 17 year old pregnant. What is she? Trailer trash?" It is beginning to have an uncouth, trailer'ish feel to it, isn't it? What's that smell?[
Guess you prefer Michelle ghetto smell. You can put lipsick...but it's still...
Posted by: hype bites | September 1, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Wow, the infatuated with Obama media sure loves going after the young girls of candidates don’t they? Sexist Pigs. Like we’re suppose to believe the media is so moral to search and make an issue out of a CHILD. Wonder if all the far left wingers are going to scream about how she should get an abortion.
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Who cares? She’s not he 1st 17 yr old to get pregnant and she won’t be the last.
I disagree with the marriage though….If they truly love each there will be time for marriage.
Posted by: TW | September 1, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
“They have run out of issues to attack Palin”
***
Hardly… I have no doubt the real fun is yet to begin.
BTW, I find it odd that she appears to support Alaskans for Independence. The “moral decay” may well be in Alaska too! Apparently those Alaskan moral standards are not all that high. LOL
This is from their website:
Q: Would I lose my U.S. citizenship?
A: Depending on the form of independence, several forms of citizenship would be possible, including
the retention of U.S. citizenship or dual citizenship. However, considering the moral, educational, and
economic decay of the U.S., Alaskans’ who hold themselves to a higher standard might very well
decide to at least maintain an arm’s length distance from a country in decline.
Posted by: Jim | September 1, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Please understand that I will vote for McCain/Palin.
But not for the reasons others will post.
What it actually came down to for me was the future of the oval office.
Imagine if you will in the not too distant future after they win the election.
The oval office redecorated ala”Bass Pro shops”
snowshoes on the wall, hunting pics and a new bear skin rug on ground.
Every visiting dignitary would receive freshly made Jerky.
Sarah would walk into Meetings with visiting dignitaries with a child on her hip chasing another child ,holding a tray of wonderful baked goods.
Nobody would ever get out of line or backtalk “Poppa Mccain”as Sarah walks around with a loaded”piece’on her other hip.
The fountain in front of the white house would stocked twice a year for the annual “teach a friend to fish to support themselves for life”event
No more lousy visits by Olympians,football stars ,or world series winners.
Iam talkin Stanley Cup winners baby!!!!
please comment and have a wonderful day,
-”gone fishing”
Posted by: EdnSocal | September 1, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Looks like the evangelicals and social conservatives are right after all: Women should stay at home and teach the children conservative values (like NOT HAVING PREMARITAL SEX). Hopefully Bristol will do a better job with her offspring than her mother did with hers.
Posted by: Ken | September 1, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Idiots – particularly the rednecks on this blog who can’t spell. Of course McCain knew about this – this is WHY he pandered to the extreme right, didn’t choose Liberman, and chose Palin in the end! This is their proof that they are good, God-fearing, Christians. Imagine an accent like Lindsay Graham and say outloud, ‘wehl, Praise Jesus, we are sahved! We still own family values!!!!!” This country will never again experience greatness if McCain is elected – we’l be too buys teaching our children that no evolutoin never happened.
Posted by: Steven | September 1, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Let us respect the privacy of Bristol’s pregnancy. Sarah Plain’s candidacy as vp of John McCain brought to light two brewings issues in our national life. (1) The life of children with disabilities or kids with special needs. Those pregnancies having down syndrome children, 80% are aborted.Simply put, this is selective pregnancy! (2) Teen age pregnancy. In Bristol’s case, she is keeping the pregnancy!
Of the 80% of mothers with down syndrome babies, are Democrats! And majority of those teen-age pregnancies, are those with parents who are Democrats!
Democrats would rather resort to abortion, if not infanticide! All under the pretext of women’s right of choice
rather that preserving the sanctity of life! With Barack Obama’s presidency,we can expect for an increase rate of abortion, or more babies to be aborted and more teen-age girls to get pregnant!
Even his administration will keep on buying condom for free distribution to schools. SAd to say, the condom leaks!
Posted by: Frankl Magno | September 1, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
“Haha my friends, okay, the whole Palin thing was a joke. I pick Romney.”
Posted by: Luke | September 1, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
I dont get it? What is the big deal? Is it just because shes a celebrity that she had to announced it? Palin shouldnt have announced it in the first place. It is a discarce to think that something like this could affect her ” term” or whatever. I dont think its a big deal.
Posted by: aphroidte4587 | September 1, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
By the way–for all you right wingers who take umbridge at this thread because you say a candidate’s children should be off limits, were you equally up in arms when dusty old Republicans were calling a preteen Chelsea Clinton ugly?
Posted by: Aidasan | September 1, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Ha ha ha ha… ha ha ha ha… Stop! Please! I can’t take any more! A 17 year old unwed pregnant daughter for the woman “committed to overturning Roe vs. Wade”. Ha ha ha ha… I first heard this breaking news on hour and a half ago on Fox News and I am still laughing. Hillarious! You couldn’t have written it better than this.
The issue here is that she is not a good parent, not a person of character – which who I would want a 72 year old heart beat away from the leader of the free world. Apparently abstenence is not the best policy. I knew this whole McCain/ Palin 08 thing would fall apart in the end, but I never expect this. Ha ha ha ha… ha ha ha ha…
Posted by: Lauren | September 1, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Ready to be President, just not ready to teach her kids…
Posted by: Sex Education | September 1, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
No one is running out of issues. She’s only ben the VP pick for 4 days. No telling how much more info we are going to get on her, not to mention the ethics investigation findings that will be released just days before the election. This is looking more and more like a gamble McCain should have not have taken. Makes you wonder does this guy even think about his actions or does he just do what sounds good.
Posted by: Shane | September 1, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
If you couldn’t teach your family the right way, how could you govern the country to the correct directions.
Posted by: Quy Tran | September 1, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
The point is that Sarah Palin is a human like the rest of us and faces the same types of personal, spiritual and professional challenges in life. The problem is that Republicans feel that they should be forgiven for their weaknesses while they condemn and persecute everyone else for theirs. The Republicans are nothing if not intolerant hypocrits and liars. As a tax paying American forced to live in Canada with my same-sex Korean partner because of homophobic immigration laws espoused by the GOP I feel that I have the right to speak.
Posted by: Frederick Ferguson | September 1, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
“I am an Obama supporter but I think people should leave this family alone. Every family has difficuties and joys. this family needs privacy to deal with this issue and if you are Christians, pray for them. I admire Gov. Palin’s decision to have her own child. If you are going to criticize her, attack her political positions but leave her family alone.”
Thank you Mary, for your open mindness. Attacking a family or for that matter the two women who are standing up to the challenge should not be attacked in such a manner.
Posted by: eviee
Eviee, The democrats would have gladly passed this
one, but when the other side always pounds on the
table preaching “Practice what you preach” all the time, then they don’t follow it, this just opens the flood gates to hypocrisy.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 1, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
These are horrible comments about a young girl and her personal life.
I would never want to be aligned with Obama supporters if this is representative of their intelligence and sensitivity.
This life-long Dem will be voting for McCain/Palin.
Posted by: Sami | September 1, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Alaska’s best kept secret, is about making Babys, why should the media give her a break, is she not a Candidates kid? In any case, america still treat seventeen year old kids as Adults when it comes to crime. As the doughter of a wouldbe candidate, her life should also be subject to scrutany. It rases the question related to how the Candidate rases her children, or her lack of parenting skills, or lack of parenting values. Given the fact that most Americans have 2.5 kids, Gavernor Palin has really been busy in bed, and her doughter is followering her mothers footsteps. Please respect Americas, right to know, we have a Public Country, Public Government, Public records, with limited rights to Privacy, or did you not know that Mrs Palin.Your Republican Party did not respect my Tax Dollor’s
Posted by: hacketack | September 1, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
I find his pick of Palin insulting. Is this the best the Republican party can do? Out of all the politicians he could have selected, she’s the one. The ego maniac who has five children at home, one with down syndrome, and a 17 year old whose pregnant?
Would Exxon hire her to be VP? Would Bank of America? Microsoft? Also, she’s under state investigation? Where did he find her? At a Jerry Springer show?
McCain owes the Republican party an apology for his lack of strategy and leadership.
America should be thankful that we have a qualified alternative with Obama/Biden.
I expect Palin to drop out of the race within a week. Romney will take her place.
Posted by: Astrochicks.com | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
I’m not sure about this, because I didn’t read all the comments, but I didn’t notice that anyone commented on who the husband was? She is 17, correct? Which would mean the age of the father is a big deal here. If he is of legal consentual age to have sex then doesn’t this amount to statutory rape? Give us the age abc!
As for all the insane conservative propaganda on this message board; I wonder how you can blindly follow these politicians despite having then throw the values you preach back in your faces countless times? I think it’s because conservatism is a bankrupt policy, unable to sustain itself in a world which keeps moving forward and leaving you behind. We’ll never go back to the way things are, evolution indicates we are travelling towards a more perfect being. Why would we want to go back to a yesterday which was less perfect? It destroys the idea of improving society and our government in particular.
Posted by: Nasser Qabazard | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
I wanted to see a picture of Palins whole family together when she accepted the nomination. I did not seem to find one. What else is hidden. It does matter what your family does.Teenage pregancy is heartbreaking and it taxes the family in everyway.If this woman would put her family first she would not accept VP due to her obligations. She is going to be a grandma… with her child having a child. maybe this is Sarah’s second grandchild? I have no respect for someone who preaches family and when the times comes to stand up and care for the family she is running around in Washington.My sister was married off at 17 pregnant at 16 annulled 9 months later my mother took care of the baby.What will happen to this baby? What will happen to the younger daughter? Go home Sarah and answer Gods calling you are a Grandmother now not a VP.
Posted by: Grandma Baracuda? | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Child out of wedlock. welcome to the real world. It happens. Palin’s anti-envirormental views, no compassion for animals and lack of any national political experience are far more disturbing. McCain is a panderer and Palin is his offering to the Extreme right religous freaks.If you think things are bad now,4 years of another Republican will make our current mess look great
Posted by: jp | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Michelle Obama is a far cry from being ghetto!
Posted by: TW | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Oh yeah, Roman columns, fireworks, “I am the one you’ve been waiting” pretty boy and the old guy who talks about how pretty little girls are over and over are “real serious” candidates. Talk about a joke.
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
So the Gov. of Alaska supports teen sex now?
Posted by: Gus | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
I strongly believe in the separation of church and gov. and I hope these right wing republican conservative evangelicals realize that’s the better way to go.
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
This makes population of Alaska from 670,000 to 670,001. You see, this young daughter of VP candidate actualy is helping Alaska, following mom’s steps. Waaaay to go. I need more stuff, this is just funny as hell.
Posted by: BOBSTER | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
So, about that whole abstinence-only sex education thing…
Posted by: Luke | September 1, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
COULD THERE BE ANY MORE DRAMA DURING THESE ELECTIONS?????
Posted by: Tanah | September 1, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
These smear campaigns directed at Palin’s daughter have to go. I kept seeing on the blogs last night all these ridiculous rumors about Palin having birthed her own daughter’s child and bloggers were attributing this sick nonsense to the Obama camp. I’m going to give the Obama camp and his supporters the benefit of the doubt here
but these types of smears are as disgusting as some of the one’s I saw for months pertaining to Obama.
Posted by: alpaig52 | September 1, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Sarah needs to make a FULL mea culpa to christian community. That she failed in raising her daughter probably by not spending enough time with her or being too lenient. Bristol has sinned and had premarital sex. That is what I hate about these new socially christian conservatives. They speak about morality but push it aside when they are in it. I bet sarah did not counsel Bristol about birth control.
Posted by: Rob | September 1, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Sami – I agree 100%. Another life-long Dem voting for McCain/Palin.
Posted by: Laurie | September 1, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
The Palin family seems awfully confident that the father of the baby is going to marry their daughter. They must be holding the shotgun on him around the clock.
Posted by: Mark Williams | September 1, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
WHY WOULD JOHN McCAIN PICK A PERSON HE HAD ONLY MET ONE TIME TO BE HIS VICE-PRESIDENT?!!!
Is this the way John McCain is going to make decisions in the White House, just as irrationally as this, without much thought.
John McCain has shown that he is an irrational, and an irresponsible person.
AND a 72 year old man who is irrational, and irresponsible is NOT what this country needs in a leader!!!
Posted by: Paul | September 1, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
OMG!!! She really is an American and has real American problems.
Posted by: Kris S | September 1, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Extreme partisans on both sides believe what they want to emotionally and then look for facts to justify it. But in most online forums like this one the worst nastiness and name-calling mostly comes from the right. Why is that?
Whether you view the Palin family’s unplanned growth as a tragedy or a blessing, please be aware that Obama’s campaign is not driving this story, and the vast majority of his supporters are worried about the big problems facing the country and not the McCain/Palin family drama.
Posted by: ctanible | September 1, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
I strongly believe in the separation of church and gov. and I hope these right wing republican conservative evangelicals realize that’s the better way to go.
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
right wing repubs live in Mayberry USA which unfortunately no longer exists. Teen pregnancy is highest in Rural America, but these repubs are always acting like thier boop smells sweeter when it smells just like everybody elses, just embarrashing McCain would pick a vp choice wholely unprepared and needing to be home with her special needs baby and troubled teen. You see it’s not good to preach to folks when you have ravens in you own closets. This is no longer pretend America we live in, maybe the right wingers will wake up and join the rest of the world in real time.
Posted by: lynette | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
What is going on here ?
* Don’t talk about no experience because you will be attacking a woman.
* Don’t talk about the investigation that she tried to get her x-brother in law fired and fired the man that would not do it because after all, that is still under investigation.
* Don’t talk about her 17 year old unwed daughter being pregnant when she preaches abstinence only because after all thats a family matter.
* Don’t talk about her personal and professional connection to big oil.
This is a very strange election the Republicans are trying to run here. I hope the news media will bring everything out and not hold any secrets from us from both parties, unlike with John Edwards. We need to know it all. This election is way to important for the future of this country to not be aware of it all. As an independent voter I feel its time we stop following either party as if we were blind and dumb. Lets think about our country for a change. This is no joke.
Posted by: jd in mi | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
it matters when you stand ona platform of family values and strong morals… hypocritical as sthey may be…
if you allow people to make choices for their own lives.. then it wouldn’t matter.
Posted by: nerakami | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Fully vetted I’m sure that’s why the McCain campaign were the first to include this piece of family bio during the first day…or two.
Posted by: Blind Sided Old Fool | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Palin peddled her deep respect and admiration for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (Wasn’t she the GOP anti-christ just a few weeks ago?) To stick to the truth and educate feminist Clintons: She is certainly no Clinton, opposing abortions, even in the cases of rape and incest; denying human contributions to global warming; supporting the teaching of creationism in public schools. Sarah Palin told Alaskans during her gubernatorial campaign that she wouldn’t support abortion rights even if her own daughter had been raped. (Palin is also a staunch advocate of abstinence-only education.)
Posted by: Mike | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Amy, if you were truly concerned about the direction this country will take you’d vote for Obama/Biden. Creationism mandatorily taught in public schools regardless of the fact that not everyone believes in creationism, that that brings religion into the public schools? Whatever happened to our right to have separation of church and state in this country? Climate change not caused by humans? No equal pay for equal work? A woman’s right over her own body not her right at all, now at the mercy of The State? A political party devoted to the increasing wealth of big business and oil while us folks scramble to make it from paycheck to paycheck, that is, if we are able to keep our jobs? Privatization of Social Security? Privatization of health insurance with a $5000 “voucher” when we all know health insurance costs at least triple? Are you joking? That aside, it’s nobody’s business but their own when it comes to Palin’s daughter being pregnant. We should all leave them alone. It’s a personal matter and they are handling it as they see fit. What does bother me is that they want their solution to this situation to be OUR solution. No thank you. I’ll stick with Obama/Biden this time around.
Posted by: cat on a hot tin roof | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Perhaps, the Christian values that claim children are the sole responsibility of the mother are a bit, no wait totally antiquated! Join us in the current century where REAL MEN are also able to care for THEIR children.
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. As parents we raise our children and try to teach them our values but it is up to them to follow. As a parent I can only imagine what this family must have been through and I think they should have some privacy regarding this topic. All families have different values and beliefs. I remember Obama being critized for saying that if his daughters became pregnant he didn’t want their punishment to be a baby. Once again that is what he believes and as a parent I can’t blame or judge either person’s response. This is the beauty of living in America. We have people of all beliefs and backgrounds living together and no one should be judge.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Plains daughter being pregnant doesnt bother me in the least and says nothing about palin herself. However Palin admitted to shooting 40 animals in one sit down just for sport. She has low values on the enviroment and animal protection. She puts oil and money first and that says a lot about her values.
Obama 08
Posted by: CW | September 1, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Sorry to say that many fundamentalist types who are very judgmental have just been lost as GOP voters. I am voting for Obama, but I still think this total non-issue is unfortunate since we are all humans, we all make mistakes in life, and this one isn’t malicious, it isn’t negligent and causing naive young Americans to die in a war or something. This is typical of America, we yell OMG!!! over anything involving sex and then overlook the murderous “peccadilloes” of evil lying thieves in the neocon camp. Yeah, business as usual, and I hope the baby has plenty of love in their family and turns out to be a decent human being.
Posted by: Edward | September 1, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
She’ll pull out for family reasons and McCain will be looking for a DO-OVER while down in the GULF!!!! Another transparent move. Besides who’s gonna ride down the drain with McCain?
Posted by: Libratine | September 1, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
It’s Alaska
It’s Boring
Sex and drinking is all the culture there is.
Why the surprise?
You’re right, a man with her resume could not get the vp choice..
Posted by: evto | September 1, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Who are we to judge?only God can do that.so everyone get a life and worrie about what is going on in your life.and i have just one question.not one reply on here mentioned anything about the hurricanes that we are having and lives that are affected by it.this is what we need to worry about.she isnt the first 17 year old girl to get pregant and she wont be the last one either.
Posted by: Lori in Tampa FL. | September 1, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Kat: excellent catch. “We’re proud of Bristol’s *decision* to have her baby”
I thought she was against choice …
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 1, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
The hypocrisy on this board is not lost on a lot of us. Most likely, a lot of you had sex before your parents would have liked you to (probably before the age of 18). Your parents probably preached to you the benefits of abstinence, yet you did it anyway. The difference is probably that you didn’t get “caught.”
Whether you did not get caught due to responsibly using birth control or the condom did not break or just plain, dumb luck, you and your parents are probably no better than the Palins and their daughter.
We all want the best for our children, we teach them right from wrong and morals, but at a certain point, that child, (expressing independence and his/her freedom of choice), will make his/her OWN decisions. And yes, with hormones raging, they sometimes make the wrong choice.
That said, there are a lot of so called responsible adults out there, right now, making the exact, same choices that the Palins daughter and boyfriend did. They are having relationships with someone other than their spouses, not using birth control and trusting to blind luck that they won’t be found out and/or no baby will result from unprotected sex. Go figure.
So I say enough – Obama was conceived out of wedlock and his unsuspecting mother married a bigamist. I don’t cast fault at her for either of those things happening to her. I don’t blame Obama’s grandparents for not being there to control whatever happened between Obama’s father and mother. It would be unfair. The same goes for the Palins and their daughter.
If you have children, you may want to use this opportunity to explain to them that not every choice they will make about themselves will naturally benefit them because it feels good. Sometimes, there are other consequences to pay.
I wish the Palins, their daughter and that innocent, little baby the best of luck, they will need it from thoughtless attacks like these.
Life – it is what happens while you are living.
PUMA!
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 1, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Nasser Qabazard – “If he is of legal consentual age to have sex then doesn’t this amount to statutory rape?”
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Duh. the consent is given by the female.
Age of consent is 16 in Alaska.
Posted by: Phil | September 1, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
obama’s UNWED mother made the same decision to keep her baby-imagine if she hadn’t-we would not be having this discussion right now>
i find it amazing that some of you were SOOOOOOO proud of the fact that obama was the product of a single mother, yet you are so ready to condemn another young woman’s decision to do the same.
Posted by: sonia trevino | September 1, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
To S: re: “Obamas would seek abortion based on To their beliefs.”
That is pure conjecture. What Sen. Obama supports is to have the choice available. What Sen. Obama and his family would decide for themselves is unknown. I am a proponent of abortion rights, but would not make that choice for myself except under extreme and tragic circumstances.
Posted by: hs | September 1, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
This is easily solved McCain will announce he is adopting the baby………
Posted by: Political Move | September 1, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
My daughter is republican,voting for
Obama since McCain’s pick.She is a stay
at home mother,and can not possibly see
how this woman is going to leave the responsability of raising her family,and
yet concentrate on the presidency should
she have to step into that role. Also,please don’t compare her to mothers across the u.s.,most work because they have to, most would choose to be home raising their families,but can not afford ,please do not be affended. Choice is what it’s all about,
but Ms.Palin, do not compare yourself to the mothers out there,the majority are working because the HAVE to.
Posted by: sophie | September 1, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Quoted:”hese are horrible comments about a young girl and her personal life.I would never want to be aligned with Obama supporters if this is representative of their intelligence and sensitivity.This life-long Dem will be voting for McCain/Palin.” Who are you trying to kid-’life long Dem’. Obama didn’t dig up this crapola, the media did. They’ll find it on everyone they can. Who cares? But you want people to think this is Obama’s doing and it pushed you over the edge to vote for Mr. WAR? Sure-right.
Posted by: Mike | September 1, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Does anyone know if anyone in this family has close ties to Ted Haggard or Mike Jones?
If they do… watch out!
Posted by: Jim | September 1, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Most first born children come early; all the rest take 9 months!
In the 1600s, couples did not get married till the woman was pg. The mating custom back then was called “bundling”.
Posted by: Fairbanks AK | September 1, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Would now be a better time to mention Joe Biden’s other son. The one with the police record for drunk driving and use of controlled substances. I wonder how many pretty young things have fallen under his spell. Sort of like the old man. Can’t wait for those Black Face photos from Joe’s college days to surface. Than you will see some serious spins posted here.
Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | September 1, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Good for Palin for supporting her daughter. However, abstinence-only education and a pro-child stance gives her daughter no choice in the matter but to give birth and become political fodder, eh? Seems that Palin, cashing in on the situation, is far more concerned with her political image than woman’s rights. Should be a lesson to those who think Palin will be a substantive replacement in lieu of Clinton.
Posted by: Ani | September 1, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Are you freakin kidding?! The Obama RACE CARD FLIPPERS are complaining that they can’t say anything about women? Awe….it must be so hard for you to not be able to be sexist huh?
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
The only reason people are making this an issue is because republicans especially conservatives hold all of us to such high standards. There is nothing wrong with this as people have said but Conservatives constantly preach us on family values. If this was a democratic candidates daughter we would not hear the end of the failings of this family. Conservatives really are hypocrites you cannot preach for something you, yourselves dont adhere to. Or at least be consistent and recognise that even if they are people you support you treat them the same for their failings as you would as the opposition.
Posted by: John | September 1, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
It’s public record that Palin pulled her kids out of public school for sex-ed, citing religious objections.
When is the media going to emphasize this, in light of consistent historical evidence that REAL sex-ed, including contraceptives, is PROVEN to be more effective at fighting teen pregnancy than “abstinence only” approaches.
This connection must be made.
Posted by: Steve Johnson | September 1, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
OMG… I cannot believe this information. I’m surprised about this news. Guess Mrs Palin wasn’t really vetted. McCain has very poor judgment. Palin has a lot on her plate – son in Iraq, 5 month old baby with Down’s Syndrome, troopergate, teenage daughter pregnant, husband employed by BIG OIL… what else is there for us to find out??
Posted by: Terri | September 1, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Why is this news? I wish she and her baby the best of health and wealth in the future.
Posted by: TW | September 1, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
If the democrats somehow found themselves in this situation instead of the republicans, you can bet the republicans would be all over it like stink on manure. Negative ads attacking their family values, cries of a cover up, and general crowing about how bad the parenting of the involved party is. They would relentlessly exploit the situation for their own gain. BUT, since it is a republican in this situation, they are all about support and love and ‘see she didn’t have an abortion so we’re still better than you’. The religious right better come out with some kind of condemnation or risk being seen as they truly are: lying hypocrites who want the rest of the world to do as they say but not as they do……
Posted by: SearamblerOne | September 1, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
So I guess that this is supposed to squelch the rumors. But suppose she did cover for her daughter… what is one more lie, and what if — wonders never cease in this case — it turns out that they later allege that this newly reported pregancy ends up in an alleged miscarriage? If that raises any eyebrows it will be after the election in November anyway, right? For me, if the original rumors are credible, this well-timed “announcement” is not evidence either way. In the original rumor, people at the local health center would have had to have been in cahoots with the Governor — and that could still be the case. I’m not saying the rumors are true, only that this announcement has no bearing whatsoever on their plausibility — unless of course you for some reason believe this new “fact” — but then why would you have believed the initial rumor? On the other hand, if they lied then, they are lying now — and the “beauty” of it (for them) is that the truth of this new revelation is unverifiable, unless Bristol, unlike her mother, is actually showing signs of being pregant.
Posted by: frank burns | September 1, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
“Shooting from the hip” McCain just shot himself in the foot. Mitt was the right choice for VP. Thanks, John.
Posted by: KB | September 1, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
“This VP nomination is really becoming a joke.” I agree. Is this really the best McCain could do? I mean, it’s a cute story getting elected governor of a small state a few months ago. I’m sure the governors of Wyoming, North Dakota, Vermont, etc., have interesting stories too (and probably more time in office as well), but let’s get real, man.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
What’s the age of consent in Alaska? Could it be that Mcains senior staffer may be brought up on charges? Oh by the way, for those of you that think this is Obama’s doing, remember it was the Mcain camp that confirmed this to the press.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Cheeba | September 1, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I feel sorry for the 17 year old. My heart goes out to her because she is a human being. As for Mrs Palin, is it true that she made comments against inter-racial marriages? If so, she needs to get a grip, get God, and get going out of this race. It is interesting that everytime the McCain group digs a ditch for Obama to fall in, they topple over in that ditch! God don’t like ugly, and He does not like hypocrites!
Posted by: Andrea | September 1, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
ENOUGH! Palins daughter will marry the father as soon as they figure out which one it is.
Posted by: TIM
*************************
McCain may even give them a house to live in…
or two houses, maybe even three houses, how
about four houses, alright, if they stay together,
five……
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 1, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
ENOUGH! Palins daughter will marry the father as soon as they figure out which one it is.
Posted by: TIM
*************************
McCain may even give them a house to live in…
or two houses, maybe even three houses, how
about four houses, alright, if they stay together,
five……
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 1, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
As a committed Christian, I am very saddened by this news.
Abstinence Only programs really do work.
What has happened here?
Sarah and Bristol are in my thoughts.
I do forgive these wonderful women.
They represent the best about the USA.
Gov / VP Palin will bring some very real world experience to governing.
I think we should be proud of these women. Go USA. I’ll bet Sarah P. will do beautifully representing all that is good about the USA.
guns, babies, hunting, creationism, abstinence only, fishing, basketball
I love it all!!!
Posted by: errr | September 1, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
WHO IS THE “YOUNG MAN SHE IS GOING TO MARRY.” Maybe they don’t know who they are going to select at this time. I wonder how much they will have to pay him. I’m sure Grandma-to-be Sarah will make a financially attractive offer for the right “young man.”
WHY ALL THE SECRECY? WHAT YOUNG MAN?
Posted by: rhbate | September 1, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
9-1-08
I’ve been a registered Republican for decades, even though I prefer to vote for the person versus the party.
McCain’s choice of VP shocked me. My first thought was that as a mother my prime concerns are for the welfare and happiness of my children. Having 5 of them, and still being a full time politician seems selfish and egotistical. A person can only spread themself so thin, and in the end something suffers. In this case it has to be time with the children, a VERY important area.
Now we not only hear she’s got a 5 months pregnant unwed mother for a daughter, but also that McCain and his staff knew of this before he made her the VP choice. WHAT?
Did they, as the party of morals, family values and conservatism really think this wouldn’t upset the Republican constituents?
I can’t believe that with all the choices out there, McCain would still pick her – after this shoe fell. The man is obviously riddled by senility… as well as his staff who didn’t step in and stop it.
I’m angy, ashamed and refuse to give my vote to this ticket.
Do us all a favor and lead McCain back to one of his 7 houses, then lead Sarah Palin back to her house, husband and the five children who obviously do Not need an absent mother. Don’t keep having kids if you don’t want to be there for them. Now she can proudly add an illegitimate grandchild to the mix and make it an even half-dozen. Didn’t I also read she was a Mormon? Surely they don’t teach pre-marital sex.
When she chose to be a Mother of five, she stepped into a Leader role. Too bad she didn’t want to stick around for the kids.
Posted by: Kitty | September 1, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
I heard Obama say “abort” the unborn. What if Obama’s mama had the same idea?
Posted by: Alice in Miami | September 1, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Yes, it is a question of judgment in my mind. This is huge–just HUGE.
I’m with the person who predicted Palin is going to step down to “take care of her family” now (under extreme pressure from the GOP to do so, that is).
I’d bet on it, in fact. Whether you sympathize with them or not, the situation would make the GOP (and the entire country) the laughingstock of the world.
No way, now how, not now, McCain!
Posted by: pasc | September 1, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
9-1-08
I’ve been a registered Republican for decades, even though I prefer to vote for the person versus the party.
McCain’s choice of VP shocked me. My first thought was that as a mother my prime concerns are for the welfare and happiness of my children. Having 5 of them, and still being a full time politician seems selfish and egotistical. A person can only spread themself so thin, and in the end something suffers. In this case it has to be time with the children, a VERY important area.
Now we not only hear she’s got a 5 months pregnant unwed mother for a daughter, but also that McCain and his staff knew of this before he made her the VP choice. WHAT?
Did they, as the party of morals, family values and conservatism really think this wouldn’t upset the Republican constituents?
I can’t believe that with all the choices out there, McCain would still pick her – after this shoe fell. The man is obviously riddled by senility… as well as his staff who didn’t step in and stop it.
I’m angy, ashamed and refuse to give my vote to this ticket.
Do us all a favor and lead McCain back to one of his 7 houses, then lead Sarah Palin back to her house, husband and the five children who obviously do Not need an absent mother. Don’t keep having kids if you don’t want to be there for them. Now she can proudly add an illegitimate grandchild to the mix and make it an even half-dozen. Didn’t I also read she was a Mormon? Surely they don’t teach pre-marital sex.
When she chose to be a Mother of five, she stepped into a Leader role. Too bad she didn’t want to stick around for the kids.
Posted by: Kitty | September 1, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
CAO wrote “Let those without sin cast the first stone”. —- Care to apply that retroactively to all of the stones that the holier than thou republicans were casting at the Clinton family or will the republicans finally apologize to America for being the biggest hypocrites on earth??? Behold the republican party full of toe tapping public bathroom stall trolls & cheating politicians that rob America blind while claiming that the republican party is God’s party. Sorry but it’s hard to have much sympathy. The republican party has been casting stones while their pants were down around their own ankles.
Posted by: vee | September 1, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
These are the REAL conservative christian values. It is why they are so ignorant. They have children young and let cable TV raise them. Lip service is paid to “morals”. Look at the demographics for teen pregnancies. They are highest in the bible belt.
Posted by: GWS | September 1, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
She probably did teach her daughter, making babies is one of Palins skills just not the marriage first part.
Posted by: Kids on Welfare | September 1, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
I am so tired hearing about how democrats promote abortion. Of course they do not promote abortion, they believe in the womans right to choose.
you can not legislate morality.Woman.
wake up!This could be the most important election of our life time.
Mr.McCain does not respect woman,that’s why he put a woman in the job , that he himself said is only for attending funerals!
Posted by: sophie | September 1, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
I was a Republican but now? Uh, not so much! First, the selfishness of McCain to think that this woman can run a country is just amazing to me. He has shown VERY poor judgement! I can’t close my eyes and picture her speaking to Putin or any other national leader with any knowledge of what she is talking about.
Second, maybe the woman should have spent a little more time with her children. Her dad is absent a lot working for BP Oil and the mom is obviously overworked with her political speeches on Polar Bears and Caribu. She should have been there for her children and they may not be in the situation they are in.
I am saddened by my party. I will for the first time vote for a Democrat. For the firt time in my adult life, I agree that with Obama I do have hope. With Palin as VP to a very old McCain, all I have is fear. Fear was what drove my vote last time…this time however, it will help me make the right choice…Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Kim | September 1, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
It seems the McCain camp was hoping that Palin’s skeletons would not come tumbling out of the closet until after he won the presidency. Well, McCain it looks like that’s not gonna happen. We know your tricks and it is not gonna work, we had enough of that with your buddy Bush! Goodbye Bush, McCain & Palin and the rest of your Republican cronies!
Posted by: hmm | September 1, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
so…because today’s Dems have disgusting and vapid values, then those who have Christian values are criticized when life challenges one’s attempt to live by them. The true test of a person’s values is what is done when those values are challenged. What’s sad is that to today’s Democrat she would be celebrated if she denounced her daughter publicly, then killed the baby, then went on public assistance, and then blamed Bush…oh and blamed global warming too.
Today’s modern democrat -if you have no values,your behavior can’t be judged. Brilliant!
Marxists, all of you are Marxists
Posted by: jmtlaw | September 1, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
WHO IS THE “YOUNG MAN SHE IS GOING TO MARRY.” Why all the secrecy? Maybe they don’t know who they are going to select at this time. I wonder how much they will have to pay him. I’m sure Grandma-to-be Sarah will make a financially attractive offer for the right “young man.”
WHY ALL THE SECRECY? WHAT YOUNG MAN?
Posted by: rhbate | September 1, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
VETTING PROCESS – Republican Style
Posted by: evto | September 1, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
lets see, Barack Obama 20 years racially polarizing church, befriends non repentant anti-american terrorists, no executive experience, never balanced a budget,no foreign policy experience, and he is running for president. Palin running for VP has a teen daughter who is pregnant. I’ll take Palin over the deceitful Obama all day long.
Posted by: joseph | September 1, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
And it amazes me how the republicans on this board are trying to turn this into an Obama or Biden thing when it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM. This is ALL ABOUT PALIN AND HER SUPPOSED FAMILY VALUES. All this spinning is really making me dizzy…..
Posted by: SearamblerOne | September 1, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I do forgive these wonderful women.
They represent the best about the USA.
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Yep… After 8 years of Bush, an illegitimate teen pregnancy is about all we have left to admire. At least you did not tell us that McCain finishing 894th out of 899 was one of America’s best moments.
I know the positive… he could have finished 899th.
Posted by: Jim | September 1, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Palin is not to be trusted. Either way, she has shown poor judgment (either getting on an airplane after her water broke, OR lying through her teeth and having websites scrubbed, just a little too late).
Of course, the fundamentalists and neocons will pretend to be shocked and dismayed at any mention of this, or at any criticism of their darling candidate. They will challenge anyone who dares to speak out against Palin’s hypocrisy by invoking Motherhood, Family, and Children.
These people were strangely silent when Faux newscasters disgorged the phrase “Obama’s baby mama,” which is not only a ghetto reference but also implies that the Obamas’ children were illegitimate. The right-wing element evidently has no problem with mudslinging unless they’re on the receiving end.
And why didn’t Palin mention her supposed pregnancy during the Newsweek interview? You would think that would have been one of the first things to come up. Oh, she forgot? Give me a break! That’s transparent machination, nothing more.
Finally, how about those pictures that include her daughter, first with a flat stomach, and then apparently pregnant, judging by her figure. So much for abstinence! Unfortunately, because of this coverup, her daughter will suffer more than she would have had her mother been honest from the beginning. However, I’m beginning to suspect that Sarah Palin is constitutionally incapable of telling the truth on most occasions.
Posted by: fltnsplr | September 1, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Now we see the true value of “Abstinence Only” sex education. A fundamental belief of our new prospective VP nominee. Kudos John McCain! excellent choice to showcase the effectiveness of republican social conservative ideals!
Posted by: bellTolls4Thee | September 1, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Well there you have.. if you can’t keep an eye on your children… you’re certainly do a good job running the COUNTRY. This is a disastor. McCain has BAD judgement. Enough.
Posted by: Hillaryfirst | September 1, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
THE OMEN IS NOT GOOD FOR REPUBLICANS THIS TIME :
1. MACAN DESIDES HIS VP IMMPULSIVLY
2. SHE HAS NO EXPERIANCE THERE ONE ATTACKING TOOL GOT BLUNT
3.MCANE IS 72 YEARS OLD WITH CANCER
4. GUSTAVE GOT THE HEAT COMING OUT OF TWIN CITYS THERE FORE MCANE CANOT COUTER OBAMAS SPEACH WHILE HIS SPEACH RINGS IN MILLIONS MIND.
5. NOW THE CONSERVATIVE MOM GOT HER TEENN’S BABY THAT LEAVE EVANGELICAL SUPPORTS HOLLYNESS PREACHING LEAVE AT THE BAY CANNOT DEMAGOG DEMOCRATS THEREFORE ACCORDING MY ASSSESMENT MCANE HAS TO CONCEED EARLYER BEFORE HUMILATED VERY MUCH IN THE FUTURE AT LEAST WILL KEEP HIS PRIDE THE ONLY VETRAN EXISTING IN USA ACCORDING HIS HUNDRED TIMES PREACHING HIS EXPERIANCE IN VETNAM AS IF THERE ARE NO VETRANS FROM THAT WAR.
Posted by: JOJO | September 1, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Astrochicks While Obama was community organizing Palin was on the City Council and Mayor. Obama was a State Senator whereas Palin was the Governor of a State with executive experience while the Senators do what they do best-
talk. While she’s acquiring executive experience Obama walks into the doors of the Senate and almost immediately sets up an exploratory committee for a
a Presidential bid and then has spent the rest of his first term campaigning for President thus squandering any opportunity afforded him to acquire the depth of knowledge, perspective and experience in foreign policy that both Biden and McCain have. Does Palin have the experience that I think should be there for VP? No. Does Obama have it for the Presidency? Aboslutely not. Axelrod has spent over a year strategizing and implementing events and press convincing us he is Presidential. We’ve been told that experience isn’t what matters but rather judgement? Biden was brought on to compensate for Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience. During the speech I heard pundits say that perhaps Obama’s lack of experience would bring a fresh, new perspective to foreign policy. If we wouldn’t have a Presidential candidate right now who has the potential to actually win running on the slim resume of Obama’s there would be no Palin on the ticket.
Obama’s slim resume has opened up the door for non-traditional backgrounds and where years in services and actual accomplishments are less important then
a good speech, charisma, youth, a fresh new perspective and with limited years in the halls of Washington. Why should McCain have to apologize for a selection of Palin she’s just the female counterpart of an Obama and she’s
not on the top of the ticket. At least Palin has accomplishments and a record which indicates she isn’t the symbol of change Obama is but rather an agent of change.
Posted by: alpaig52 | September 1, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
This isn’t over, the McCain team is at a Wasilla high school right now interviewing potential dads.
“have you ever did drugs, what are your political views, would you go to Iraq if asked, how long have you worked at McDonalds….
Posted by: McCains Circus | September 1, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
I agree with some that’ll she’ll step down later this week as opposed to accepting the nomination. But that John McCain choose her in the first place is now a fact. His graduating near the bottom of his class is beginning to make a whole lotta sense.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Hey lefties, get this. My daughter is 16 years old, she understands the human reproductive facts, and we have taught her the importance of abstinence. There are many reasons for abstinence, not just to keep a young woman from having a baby. Disease (a condom will not protect you from all std’s), emotional, lifestyle, etc…
No matter how much information someone has, sometimes people make wrong choices. At least she did not compound her wrong choice with another wrong choice which leads to emotional pain as well as the murder of a human being.
My home schooled daughter has a healthy understanding of sex, where and when it is appropriate, and how birth control works (she might need it when she is married). Her opinion is that it is a sad state of affairs when society has such low expectations of young people and are so afraid of setting high standards, instead settles for the lowest common denominator for all.
This lovely young lady made a wrong choice, not because she didn’t have information and a condom in her purse. We cannot know everything, but one thing we do know, she and her family are taking responsibility for the whole situation.
Posted by: imright | September 1, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Does Alaska have a statutory rape law??
Posted by: E | September 1, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
errr wrote:
“As a committed Christian, I am very saddened by this news.
Abstinence Only programs really do work.”
——————-
Are you aware that most of the States in the USA – including Red States – are now turning down free federal grant money for Abstinence Only programs because the high school teen pregnancy rate rose dramatically when they were imposed on the schools?
They are PROVEN NOT to work. As a “committed Christian”, isn’t it a sin to tell a lie?
Palin prevented her daughter from learning about other methods and now we’ve got another pregnant 17 year old.
This ticket is beginning to look like Mr. Drysdale and the Beverly Hillbillies take on the Democrats.
Posted by: Mickey | September 1, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
John McCain is making a mockery out of the office of Vice President. People are really hurting out here (losing jobs, losing health insurance, losing homes) and this is his answer to our problems? This is a joke and I’d laugh if it wasn’t so sad. I really feel sorry for this girl. She will have no privacy from now on. How could her mother even think of dragging her through the media like this?
Posted by: siding_with_democrats | September 1, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Come on now… What do we even give a heck about that? Is this the Jerry Springer Show?
You repubs are really shameless.
God helping, good riddance in November.
Posted by: POV | September 1, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Palin better never mention Hillary’s name again. Hillary woul never sell Chelesa out like this. She wouldn’t be forcing her to get married at such a young age, but wait Hill and Chelesa probably discussed birth control instead of just absitence. Sure there is no problem with a mother of a young child running for a high office excpet when her children start to suffer. Does her child or the daddy have a job or are grandma and grandpa gonna foot the bill or are they really gonna show how much they are like many of americans and kick the kids out on their own and have them apply for food stamps?
Posted by: rachel | September 1, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
oh,how brilliant. Yes, she will step
down, McShame will still get credit for
being a “maverick”, and then he can pick
a real candidate and try to save his
a$$, too late though. McCain is the one
that proved he put campagne before
country, with this pick that was meant
for shock value only, and to try to get Hillary voters/Again,showing no respect for women.
Posted by: sophie | September 1, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Maybe she should spend more time raising her children properly? There is a huge future ahead of her, after all. She is young. These young daughters of hers needed a mother. This is shameful. She cannot raise her own family properly – even as an evangelical Christian – and we are now to presume that she has the moral authority to be a heart beat away.
This selection by McCain demonstrates to me that he is completely devoid of good judgment. As a lifelong Republican, I will cast no vote in November for President. I am so disappointed. Can’t we get McCain out of there before it is too late?
Posted by: David | September 1, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
McCain was right that his VP choice would appeal to younger voters. Governor Palin’s daughter’s story is just like Lynne Spears’ daughter’s story (Jamie Lynn); 17 and pregnant. It’s all about family values and rock and roll.
Posted by: lj9283 | September 1, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
In light of a 17 year old who is being heavily scrutinized by the world, could we all try to put ourselves in her position? Let the family deal with the situation as a family matter. I am firmly in the Obama/Biden camp, but I am interested only in the issues. I have a problem with Palin’s outlook on the environment, trying to take polar bears off the endangered list, anti-science education in the schools, and other views. We need leaders who are taking us to a brighter, realistic future and not wistfully looking backward to a world as they wish it would be. While I have compassion for Bristol and her mom in this situation, it does concern me that Senator McCain would not realize this announcement would bring out the worst side of Americans (interest in salacious gossip) and take away from the important issues in this election. This points to poor judgment on his part.
Posted by: Patricia | September 1, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
The personal lives of the children of Palin is not an issue to exploit by either party. The more important facts- Palin is a hard right conservative, pro-creationist, against abortion even in the case of rape or incest, anti-animal rightss, pro-gun, totally lacking in any relevant experience, a complete unknown to McCain- a beauty queen who established her reputation on right-wing talk radio- these are the issues that make McCain’s choice unacceptable to the vast majority of voters. She is deeply involved in a political scandal concerning abuse of offcial power. The terrifying thought that she would be a heartbeat away from the presidency in light of her gross inexperience and McCain’s age and health- this is what needs urgent attention.
Posted by: jefflz | September 1, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
“so it is okay/honored when the democrats announced whether or not they have ever done drugs…” The Alaskan governor has admitted to drug use as well.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Peyton Place or Mc-Palin Place?
Did John McCain vet this family at all before choosing Sarah Palin as his running mate? (Apparently, he did.)
Here’s one more reason I think McCain will drop Palin from the ticket after the convention — or she will withraw on her own.
Obviously Sarah Palin’s family needs her a lot more right now than the American people do.
One question: will Sarah Palin withdraw before the GOP convention closes, or after? Another question: will she put her family and the interests of our nation first, or will she put her political ambitions first? And finally: what kind of “family values” are held by a man (McCain) and a woman (Sarah Palin) who would knowingly expose a child they know to be pregnant to this kind of public scrutiny? What the hell is wrong with these two?
More info at:
Posted by: Adam Korbitz | September 1, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
WOW!!! This IS news!! She must be the first 17-year-old in the U.S. to get pregnant in, what? The last 4 minutes? BREAKING NEWS!!!!
Posted by: Namako | September 1, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Didn’t Gena Davis already try this,
and the show got canceled?
bingo, this isn’t a sitcom,although it
would make a good one. This is real life. We can not afford another 8 yrs
of Bush,and we can not afford the brady
bunch to be in charge of running the country, one heart beat away.
Posted by: sophie | September 1, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Hillary Supporters are not interested in anything posted on Daily Kos. We remember how she was wrongfully trashed on it and don’t find it particularly credible.
Please find another source.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 1, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Prediction:
After a frantic strategy meeting, the McCain campaign will force Sarah to resign within days.
Her stated reason will be “To protect my family.”
McCain will then make a more considered choice.
The campaign’s logic will be that the public has a short memory, and they have two months to spin damage control.
Watch this unfold just as predicted.
Posted by: Steve T | September 1, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Governor Palin has more experience than Obama in international trade, and definitely energy. She’s a proven working class reformer that has stood up to big oil….like British Petroleum. I, and many independents, have more in common with her then I do with a guy that had a wealthy granny, went to private prep schools, snorted cocaine (but he didn’t let it touch his nose), got a minority scholarship to liberal world (Harvard, hung out with radical crazys like Ayers, worshipped with Wright, found legal loopholes to disqualify his main opponents in the only government post he has managed to kinda win, had some PORK scandal with Rezko, lives in a McMansion with Rezko’s help, plays the race card like it was a piano, and at the DNC convention threw a strong capable women like Hillary under the tires of the DNC bus. I’m not sure I care much for Hillary, but she was certainly a strong capable women, and I think Joe Biden is a capable person too…for the top of the ticket. Basically, I think it is time to shake Washington up…I am voting for Real Reform…not fluffy words from a teleprompter…I as an independent will vote for McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 1, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
I’m sorry…liberal or conservative this hardly presents the sort of family values that the majority of the public wants to promote. As a matter of fact we as a nation have been trying for years to find ways of eliminating unwed and underage pregnancies.
Posted by: foxisms | September 1, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
My wife(age 76) and I(age78)are life long Democrats. We, and our 54 year old Down’s son, are offended by the remark that Democrats abort their babies if not perfect. Wake up to reality and leave your rotten thoughts to yourself.
Posted by: Harley Green | September 1, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
The McCain camp is trying to politicize a family issue…” liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama’s name in them..” We know that Obama did not personally endorse this rumor and is not responsible for the crap discussed on the net. Palin is so new, ANY information will be looked into: true or not. Obama has gone through this for past 19 months. Palin better be able to handle for the next 2. As Hillary Clinton said: If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. The true political issue is: what does this say about McCain’s “Pandering Politics First” judgment to lead?
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Palin should step down from accepting nomination , I think she should family first stop embarrasing her family this is just start .
Posted by: pain | September 1, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
I believe that Obama came from an unwed mother as well!
Left wingers cannot win fairly on the issues. They are the lowest form of life with no imagination. I only hope that they take responsibility if Obama, the “uh um..ah..um..umm ah candidate plunges the United States into complete and total chaos. It is the left wing nut jobs who never take responsibility for their votes. Remember the only thing that gives them ability to voice their opinions, however ludicrous, are the very concepts of democracy and capitalism they so hate. If Obama does get elected, his complete and total inexperience coupled with his god like arrogance may very well create the socialistic euphoria the left wing truly want. Careful what you wish for. Take responsibility for your vote and understand that when your wonderful euphoria leaves you wanting…you will once again turn to us to fix your mess.
Posted by: Cynergee | September 1, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
And this a big deal because??? I just skimmed the comments and am surprised. Hello – she was 17 – not like she was under lock and key her entire teen years. Should she have been – no! She has the support of her family, and it makes me respect this family even more. They didn’t deny it, they didn’t sweep it under a rug, or even try and take of it secretly. They took personal accountability for what has happened in their family and faced it head-on. Says more than what other folks have denied or tried to hide while in the office or under public spotlight! She has demonstrated that no matter the issue at hand – she supports her family 100%. I personally see it as a positive mark on her character. Children make mistakes – heavens know mine do! I can’t be everywhere my children are and for the general public to think that everyone should be…well it is time to take those blinders off. My 2 cents.
Posted by: amy | September 1, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Welcome to America. The fact of life is that this issue affects everyone. I am surprised that McCain didn’t feel this would just add another layer of questioning to his VP pick. I still question his selection because I thought we had better people for that selection. All of this starts to say something about either his skills or his age?
Posted by: kent3536 | September 1, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
How dumb can you guys be? Just because you support abstinence does not mean that you do not support birth control. Also 65% of women who have an abortion in their past felt pressured into having an abortion and 83% say they would have kept the child if just one person had shown their support. My oldest sister had a baby at 16 and my second oldest had a baby at nineteen. Both of them see their children as gifts and though it made life more difficult, at 30 and 28 they both now lead pretty successful lives. The fact that you are disparaging a 17 year-old shows how small minded you are. Grow up. Also look it up. Abortions are dangerous and could lead to permanent damage or death.
Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
This goes to the heart of Palins parenting skills or lack of them. This goes to her communication skills with family, this goes toward her awareness of family, for instance, maybe she needs to be more mother at the moment then 2nd in charge of the greatest free nation in the world. Little trivial things like that.
Maybe Palin needs to figure out a way to lead her family from temptation before she tries to lead a nation? Just food for thought.
Posted by: Darr West | September 1, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Republicans; the more hits this story gets, the more value is placed on it. Let the abusive Obama gang post on their own. GET OUT OF HERE. Just a warning. Polls speak, this blog is a miniscule percent.
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
I’m guessing that this isn’t the pre-convention bump that McCain was hoping for.
Posted by: Patrick | September 1, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
If we as a nation would make sex education and Birth control a priority, kids wouldn’t be raising kids. They would know enough to properly protect themselves from UNPLANNED pregancies. (suprise)
This sound more like the Spears Family then the VP Family. :(
I dont think with a 4 month old down syndrome baby and a grandchild on the way that Palin’s has the time or capacity to be in the VP position.
(clearly she’s good at huntin’ though!)
As Palin her self said, “as soon a someone tels me what the VP does” I can tell you if i’m ready….
Posted by: Amber | September 1, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Obama’s mother was not a child and she became single after a failed marriage when Obama was 2 or 3 years old. I don’t think the issue is pro abortion for unwed, unwanted or under age pregnancies but that women should control the right to choose their own path to motherhood.
Posted by: JSB | September 1, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Mark my words:
Palin will stick by her daughter, but McCain will not stick by Palin.
He can’t.
Posted by: Steve T | September 1, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Look…..I can understand the republicans trying to put on a strong “front” because they want their party to win BUT, this woman is a disaster. McCain sees it, and you repubs see it. It hasen’t even been a WEEK and all kinds of crap is coming out about this woman. THE DEMS HAVEN’T EVEN PUT ON A FULL COURT PRESS YET. She is going down folks, and JohnBoy is going with her.
Posted by: Order | September 1, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Palin is not macking excuses for her DAUGHTERS behavior. Hillary has letter a cheater walk over her repeatedly over the years, Obama listens to Rev. Wirght and a church that gave Farrakan a lifetime achievement awards. Seems like the only Dem that has good judgement is Edwards.
Posted by: RealChange | September 1, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Everyone who supports Obama/Biden respects Gov. Sarah Palin and her family.
Everyone who supports Obama knows that his campaign has traveled across the country with a positive message despite negative ads against all Democrats, Obama, his family,and his message of of Change we can believe in and hope.
Obama supporters do not believe in negative attacks on anyone’s family. We will continue to stick to the issues. The contrasts are clear by now between both parties. This election will be won on these issues.
The Republican’s believe that negative ads will win it for them. Look whos running McCain’s campaign. Look at the swift boaters. Even some of their talk show pundits are saying that Democrats have to sling mud and fight them. The Democrat experts know how to deal with the Republican attack machine and swift boaters.
Any Republican smear posters attempting to pose as Democrats we can tell by the outrageous personal attacks. They tried to do the same by posing as Hillary supporters on comment sections to stir up trouble.
We will continue to run with Obama’s message of Change we can believe in and Hope backed up by friends and allies.
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Eagle Clan nas gadooshu | September 1, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
For all you people out there crying hypocrisy, it is not hypocrisy to teach your child to refrain from premarital sex and have you child not listen. It would be hypocrisy if she told everyone else’s children to refrain from premarital sex and then told her own children the opposite. Not following your parents’ advice/teaching is not hypocrisy if it was everyone in the world would be a hypocrite. This hypocrisy charge is intellectually bankrupt.
Posted by: William J | September 1, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
I don’t remember Al Gore’s being raked over for his son’s drug problems. I don’t remember people demanding that he quit his job and take care of his self-destructing family. What a sexist double standard.
Please name one “perfect” family in politics or out.
Posted by: dlc | September 1, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
1) Bristol Palin did not volunteer to be in the spotlight. Who knows what agonies she is going through right now, or how much choice she actually had about this baby (none)? Leave her alone. I wish her and her family well.
2) However, Sarah Palin knew her daughter was pregnant and that this would be revealed in the media. She chose to stay in the limelight rather than spare her daughter and family.
3) McCain is 72 years old. On the basis of a short gut-feeling conversation and because Palin fit the right boxes, he chose this completely inexperienced, ill-educated person with skeletons in her closet to run the U.S. if anything happens to him. It shows a frighteningly hasty decision on such an important matter, and confirms what even his Republican colleagues in the Senate say about his bad judgment.
4) What scares me about Sarah Palin is not her family values, but something not one of you commenters has mentioned: she is totally unqualified to be President.
Let’s not forget McCain “jokes” about bombing Iran. (Look at the map and spend some time on Google before you think that is a brilliant idea.) Do you really want someone like her so close to a decision like that?
Remember what happened the last time an inexperienced, trigger-happy, tough-talking, Bible-thumping governor took office?– the war in Iraq! Our tough Texas governor thought he didn’t need to know much to invade a little country because our army could whup theirs! The war has gone on far longer than World War II, costs hundreds of millions of dollars a day, was never necessary to our national interest and which has hurt our own security, not helped it. The war caused by our Texas governor’s lack of foreign policy knowledge has killed thousands of Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and left tens of thousands of our soldiers with life-shattering wounds. Meanwhile, Osama Bin-Laden, our real enemy, is still alive and well in the hills of Afghanistan because we haven’t concentrated on him; Iran is developing a nuclear bomb; and our own army generals admit we could not fight North Korea because we are bogged down in Iraq, which was never even a threat to us (as even President Bush has publicly admitted).
So NO, I’m not interested in Sarah Palin’s family life. I would like to see her fill out a blank map of the world and answer a few questions from the French, German, Japanese or British press to see how she looks.
Posted by: Bracing | September 1, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Let’s not forget who placed this pregnant teenager in the public eye – Sarah Palin, her mother. Did Gove Palin think no one would notice?
Dishonest of Palin’s supporters to decry the public discussion of this sad family matter.
Posted by: MJ | September 1, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Let’s not forget who placed this pregnant teenager in the public eye – Sarah Palin, her mother. Did Gove Palin think no one would notice?
Dishonest of Palin’s supporters to decry the public discussion of this sad family matter.
Posted by: MJ | September 1, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
3. Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?
Sarah Palin: Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.
Posted by: Ryan | September 1, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Having raised two daughters, working two jobs, I believe Palin very selfish and self indulgent to put herself in the mix for a VP nod, I hope the media will be savvy enough not to pick on a 17 year old the way they did with Chelsea Clinton before the Clintons put a stop to it.
It’s more than obvious the family isn’t always put first here.
Posted by: familyjoool | September 1, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Sorry this does not help, there are people, Evangelical Christians, who are ,and will, not be happy over this.
Posted by: Southern Baptist | September 1, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Welcome to the real world people! Here is a family that does the right thing (keeps 2 babies, plans to gets married). Unlike another family that takes their very young daughters to a hateful church exposing them to poison Sunday after Sunday, and lets a half-brother live in Africa under the poverty level without lifting a finger.
Posted by: USA-NC-08 | September 1, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
He can stick by Palin, All he has to do is stick with the REAL issues…
Obama is for
1)Abortion
2)Sex Education for KINDERGARTENERS
3)Issuing Driver’s Licenses to Illegals
4)Decriminaling Drugs
5)Getting Rid of ALL DESCRIMATORY barriers when voting
*All i can think of is underage and/or felons
Posted by: michael | September 1, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
INCOMING>>>>>
Beings “Mr. Straight-talk” and his running mate are the best that the party of “family values” has to offer, a party that chooses to politicize marriage and portends that it represents the moral and ethical high ground in our society, it is they who have chosen to place these private issues on the table of our political debate.
How is it that these hypocrites feel that they represent the ideal or even average healthy American family.
Can anyone with any common sense compare the happy, healthy and successful families of the Obamas, the Bidens, and even the Clintons, to the dysfunctional soap-operas of the McCains and the Palins, and still believe that the latter represent the ideal American family?
Could it be that these people should all stop prosyletizing and telling others how to live their lives, and get their own house in order?
Personally, I am sick and tired of these charlatans wrapping themselves in our flag and shrouding themselves in moral superiority, while pretending to be the harbingers of wisdom and truth. While we should all empathize with and support any of our young people who make mistakes, we must also hold accountable the adults that pave the way for such youthful indiscretions with disingenuous, ignorant and intolerant behavior.
If the Republicans insist on making this election about “family values” and the factual evidence demonstrated by the behavior of the respective families of the candidates involved, then I submit that their example falls short in an honest comparison. We the People, should do their families a favor, and send them home to their families in November. The American people would thereby benefit from having real functional families in the White House, and the McCains and Palins could put their respective family houses in order.
A WIN – WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYONE!
Posted by: SirScud | September 1, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
So ….apparently “abstinence” is practiced somewhat differently in Alaska????
Posted by: Sharon Nelson | September 1, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
If America and the Republican Party weren’t full of moron moralists this woudn’t be an issue, but since they are…
Posted by: Luke | September 1, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Either she boarded a plane 9 months pregnant (stupid) after her water broke (insane, batsh#t insane), or she faked a pregnancy…
this says something about judgement, John McCains judgement!
Posted by: Bob | September 1, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
As others have said, I don’t have a huge problem with her daughter being pregnant. I’m a teacher and these things happen no matter how hard the family tries.
What I do have a huge problem with is that this is proof she was not properly vetted by the McCain campaign. She was a rash, last-minute decision and that kind of decision making is not acceptable in a POTUS.
Posted by: Mariana | September 1, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Yes, yes indeed Palin have more experience than Obama! More experience in lying & covering up her lies!! If that is the kind of experience you’re looking for then yes McCain/Palin are your guys!
Posted by: Palin More Experience | September 1, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
I’m not sure about this, because I didn’t read all the comments, but I didn’t notice that anyone commented on who the husband was? She is 17, correct? Which would mean the age of the father is a big deal here. If he is of legal consentual age to have sex then doesn’t this amount to statutory rape? Give us the age abc!
As for all the insane conservative propaganda on this message board; I wonder how you can blindly follow these politicians despite having then throw the values you preach back in your faces countless times? I think it’s because conservatism is a bankrupt policy, unable to sustain itself in a world which keeps moving forward and leaving you behind. We’ll never go back to the way things are, evolution indicates we are travelling towards a more perfect being. Why would we want to go back to a yesterday which was less perfect? It destroys the idea of improving society and our government in particular.
Posted by: Nasser | September 1, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
it also brings into question your own J-U-D-G-M-E-N-T. looks like the public education system failed you, too.
Posted by: Jeff | September 1, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
This is laughable, First off, no one, or should I say no Democrat has a problem with miss palin’s underage daughter being pregnant, on the contrary, we all wish her and her unborn child the very best. The problem here is all the “LIE’S” and deception that the republican’s insist on telling us, and even more important John McCain’s judgement or should I say, “lack there of” honestly this is the best you republicans can do
Posted by: Joeamerican3 | September 1, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Posted by: sonia trevino
obama’s UNWED mother made the same decision to keep her baby-imagine if she hadn’t-we would not be having this discussion right now>
i find it amazing that some of you were SOOOOOOO proud of the fact that obama was the product of a single mother, yet you are so ready to condemn another young woman’s decision to do the same.
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Bravo Sonia.. you are right on…
God Bless Governor Palin and her husband for coming forward and supporting their daughter in her time of need.
Millions of American families find themselves in this situation every day of the year?
I think it is admirable that Palin is saying that she is looking forward to being a grandmother…
That comment has helped her daughter in ways that all of us can understand.
This family is just like every American.. They have problems and deal with them everyday just like us…
Posted by: Dawn | September 1, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
If this news broke and it was Obama’s 17 yr old, unwed, pregnant daughter, the conservative media would be all over it for months/yrs. Here it gets a ‘blip’ and the candidates asking for their privacy.
I found it disgusting when McCain and other GOPer’s made comments abt Chelsea Clinton being ugly. Now we just have to take it b/c we were the first to dish it out.
How long before she drops out of the race? Or is this part of Rove’s strategy?
Posted by: repub25yrs | September 1, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Trig is a Norweigan name, do some research before you make ill-informed comments.
Posted by: Billy | September 1, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
What’s the big deal? It’s a well-established fact that “abstinence only” sex education, which Bristol certainly received (unless Sarah Palin is a hypocrite), increases the odds of teen pregnancy.
Posted by: Gil Gamesh | September 1, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska, is starting to not look very good….
Posted by: FilmMD | September 1, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Palin and McCain have shared family values – NONE! Be very careful when you wrap yourself in the cloak of self-righteous.
Posted by: Liz | September 1, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
For those of you who say she’s only human, you’re absolutely right, which is why abstinence ONLY education is ridiculous. No one is questionining Palin’s parenting, but her views that she wants to impose on the rest of us. If her own daughter can’t meet the high standards of abstinence only, why should Palin have the right to impose her clearly failed views on the rest of America’s teenagers. It’s the policy that is hypocritical, stupids!
Posted by: Dawn | September 1, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
The issue here isn’t about Obama or Biden.
It’s not about Sarah Palin . . .
It’s not about her daughter, either (although I feel really sorry for her. Imagine being a 17-year old pregnant high school girl and finding your name and story splashed over every newspaper and news web site in the country) . . .
The ISSUE is John McCain’s total lack of vetting this woman and his inexcusable lack of judgment in attempting to place an inexperienced (less than 2 years in an elected position in a venue of more than 5000 people) and totally unqualified person one heartbeat away from the Presidency of the United States. The thought that he would be so foolish doesn’t make me sad; it makes me ANGRY at his complete lack of consideration for the welfare of the country. And he has the nerve to say Obama puts himself first. Even if he’s right about that (and I don’t believe he is), its a case of the pot calling the kettle black (pun not deliberate).
Posted by: Raybrag | September 1, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
I agree this is a non story…if it were part of Plains introduction on DAY ONE.
McCain knew nothing about this, his campaign knew nothing about this.
Either Palin covered up this, or even she knew nothing as well. I’m betting on the cover up. Way to start building your relationship on trust.
Posted by: BabyGate | September 1, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
If Palin cannot even take care of her own house, how can she take care of the White House? Hey, McCain compared Obama to Brittani Spears, can we now compare Palin’s daughter to Brit’s sister?
Posted by: Lynn | September 1, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Oh yeah, that Andrew Sullivan is a real hit with Hillary Supporters. ROFLMAO!!!!
I am outta here – I hope everyone has a safe and great holiday!
Life – it is what happens while you are living.
PUMA!
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 1, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
The most important issue this brings up, it not that a 17 year old is having a baby, it the fact that we know very little about the lady who wants to be the next VP. This will give media the excuse to examine her past history without appearing sexist. Now, the media and the republican TV analysts will have to be careful singing praises of her. Because they just don’t what else they don’t know about her, they’re reputations are on the line.
Posted by: suv2001 | September 1, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
No spacebrook, I am not at a loss for words; thanks for asking. I am just disgusted with the so called “Change” liberals seizing any opportunity to crucify females, even children who made a mistake that is actually pretty common. I still remember how you all went after Chelsea. Just can’t wait to hit and beat the females right?
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
I have to question Sarah Palin’s judgement about accepting the VP nomination. Why would any mother thrust her 17-year-old daughter into the national spotlight knowing that the tabloids and others will rake her over the coals because of her pregnancy. Yes, she has to deal with the situation, but she shouldn’t have to deal with comments from all of America. Sometimes a parent has to put his or her child first…even before political ambition.
Posted by: Moo18 | September 1, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
I’m socially conservative but recognize that sex ed needs to look like this: These are condoms. This is the pill. Blah, blah, blah. These are all the nasty STDs that most Americans have! And, abstinence or at least delaying sex and having less sex partners means less likelihood of STDs and pregnancy. That seems like a rational curriculum to me, and if VP Palin can lead more conservatives to this view, than everyone wins.
Posted by: Wogmon | September 1, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
You people have absolutely no respect. This is a family matter, not your concern, and children of candidates should be left alone.
Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
What a farce! I knew this family was screwed up and Palin was a bad pick! Lets’ stand by for more great news like this! I guess this is what real Christians do, have sec before marriage, great job mom!!!!
Posted by: Snoop | September 1, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Nicely said Raybrag
Posted by: naimiles | September 1, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Typical of the right…preaching morality all the while behaving immorally — at least according to their own standards. What happened to their wonderful abstinence program??
Posted by: Pam | September 1, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Ed, if Bristol is 5 months pregnant and Trig is 4 months old, how could she be the mother of both?
Posted by: mamatuffy | September 1, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
It is not an issue that Palin’s daughter is pregnant. What is at issue is did McCain do his job as a Presidential candidate to select a qualified VP. The evidence that he did not is piling up and it has been only 3 days since the announcement. After we answer if McCain had disqualified himself from being President, we can discuss if Palin is qualified to to VP.
Posted by: Rich | September 1, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Listening to these comments, I have to say , right now I am ashamed that I was a Democrat for 20 years.
Posted by: Baggem | September 1, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Have you noticed that in the short period of three days how effective Gov. Palin ha been in getting the Democrats back to have a firm set of morals.
Now they want women to stay home with their children instead of having a career
They are shocked and outraged by an unwed mother. want to hold her and her mother accountable. Vs. the past reaction of steering them to the welfare lines.
Are so concerned for who the father is and how old. Never have they raised a sound about the millions of black studs that father millions of babies with unmarried black girls.
Yes Sarah Palin in three short days has brought religion and morals to the Democrats. Imagine what she will accomplish with the rest of the godless terrorists in the world.
Posted by: joe | September 1, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I could care less who is pregnant…although I would be a little surprised if she faked her daughters pregnancy, that would be wired…all I care about is that she isn’t fit to serve, end of story.
Posted by: Bryan | September 1, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
I do feel badly for Bristol, it is hard enough being a teenager but now trying to deal with pregnancy and marriage as well with a mother who if elected will be in a very stressful job. It really isn’t anyone’s business, but her mother has made it but accepting the VP candidacy.
Posted by: Carsy | September 1, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Moo18,
Sometimes political ambition decides not what best just for you or your family…
It decides what is best for the entire country for the next 4 years….
Posted by: michael | September 1, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Children will be children, but in this day and age there are too many things out here to prevent pregnancies,not speaking of abortion. Did Palin have that discussion with her daughter? Okay that aside, why are the Republicans blaming the news media and others for the rumors? She is in the public eye. She knew this would hit the media. Palin is fair game, unfortunately her unwed daughter is too!
I guess by letting everyone know her daughter plans to keep the child confirms their pro-life views.
McCain met with Palin one time and she was able to get in conversation about the pregnant daughter?! I don’t think so.
This is an interesting development!
Posted by: Shay | September 1, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Gov. Palin is a strong proponent of teaching abstinence-only sex education to teenagers.
The above statement says it all.
true, it is a family matter, but McCain found out during the vetting that the young girl was pregnet should have dropped the offer. Her and her parents will have enough to do in the up coming month preparing for the birth and wedding.
From a political point of view this is not good.
Posted by: The Truth | September 1, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
the 2:23:50 post display’s exactly the type of inspiration the Obama camp instills in the youth. Yeah, so happy they joined the political process.
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
The WHITE HOUSE is not a place for a first or a second daughter who brings shame to the HOUSE by pre-marital conception, premarital sex, or out-of-wedlock pregnancies. This sacred house was once shamed by Bill Clinton’s extramarital affairs and Bush came and restored the house’s sacred image with a daughter who chose wedding before pregnancy. This country will not let shame be brought to this HOUSE by presidential candidates who let their high school daughters get pregnant out of wedlock. What example will that set to the country’s young girls and school children? That’s not what we call conservative values and that’s not the main stream values. McCain knew this and once again he shows poor judgment by saying that it did not affect Palin’s candidacy in any way. The white house ought to stand as an American example of family values and not the lasciviousness thereof. For this McCain has lost my vote.
Posted by: Charles | September 1, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Oops, my cheers for McCain ticket is short-lived. Don’t they know better to guide their 17-year old high school child to go to college? Every average US family know (and can do) better than the Palins. It is their family choice. But they are not a role model to me. I like the Laura and George Bush’s family value.
Posted by: gpfgp49 | September 1, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Only Gov. Palin and her family know how she guided her children on the issue of pre-marital sex. We cannot know if there is hypocrisy at play. Yet, what we do know is that she didn’t have the compassion to protect her daughter from the public eye at this time. What does that say about her parenting?
Posted by: BT | September 1, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
How could she accept this positioning knowing she has a 5 mo. old w/ developmental issues, and pregnant teen. She is emotionally unstable and makes poor decisions.
Posted by: mom24 | September 1, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
I guess this is McCains version of “scrambling the jets”…..
Posted by: BabyGate | September 1, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Well aside from this issue – I am one independent voter who will now most surely be voting for Obama/Biden. It is one thing to say Obama is an elitist Harvard Law grad with only 6 years experience in state and federal government. It is quite another to say that a 44-yr old with only a bachelor’s degree in journalism from Idaho Univ. and less than 2 yrs in (a small) state government is prepared to lead my country. Regardless of my agreement with her on a few issues, she is not ready and this is a dangerous situation. I don’t fault her for trying – she may well lack the experience to know better. There is no excuse for McCain though.
Posted by: Gibson | September 1, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
If this were on the democratic side? I’d be hearing what a lousy mother Sarah is. How she didn’t take personal responsibility with her daughter. How she didn’t spend enough time with her like all the other horrible parents. How she was like all the horrible children now. Interesting.
Posted by: Sandra | September 1, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
I write as an independent, unburdened by the weight of any political allegiances. But I must say three things.
First, I agree that this is a matter of private family concern. However, there is no such thing as a private matter when we are talking about someone who could very well be one heartbeat away from the presidency. None of us let Bill Clinton get away with his sordid affair in 1999, and we will never let anyone contending for that high office ever get away with anything private when it gets to core issues.
Second, let us not forget the maxim, where there is smoke, there is fire. We have so very little on which to vet Palin that we must examine the few things that there are there about her to determine if she is fit to be president. Since this matter gets to the very fundamental core of the sacred principles put forward by the social conservatives, it is something that deserves our scrutiny, not for what it says in itself, but for what it says about the candidate.
Third, sure this is Bristol’s matter, but it is more than that. It shows a fundamental failure on Palin’s part to raise her children responsibly. If this matter did not get right to the heart of the matter of her values, the issue she was brought on board to stand up for, it would be one thing, but it is not. It is something the public must concern itself with, not to meddle, but to inform ourselves. And it certainly has helped me.
This news is a tragedy, for Bristol, for the man (or boy) who impregnated her, for the baby, for Palin herself, and for John McCain. My heart goes out to each of them, but I cannot just dismiss this matters as a private matter that I can easily overlook. This is not some courtroom where the jury is instructed to ignore some facts wrongly introduced at a trial. We are talking about a person who could very well be our president within the next four years, a person who obviously did something wrong when her 17-year old daughter goes out and has sex the very month that she (Palin) goes into the hospital to delivery a baby of her own. What kind of a parent is she? If she is unsuccessful in running a family, how will she be running the country? And if her principles are so staunch (pro-life) that she would not push them aside to avert three tragedies, what will that say about her running the country.
This is a sad day for America. This is another example of why we are losing credibility around the world and respect for our leaders.
Posted by: ETM | September 1, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Hey….where are the repubs that are usually up here talking all that trash??
Your boy McBush made a TERRIBLE choice. and you repubs know it!!
Just a few days and she is going down faster than the Titanic. Wait until the Dems REALLY turn up the heat FULL BLAST.
I LOOOOVE SEEING THE REPUBS ON DEFENSE. They can dish it out but they can’t take it. Stay on the attack Dems….STAY ON THE ATTACK !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: V for Vendetta | September 1, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
What’s worse, letting your 17 year old have a baby or subjecting your kids to Rev Wright?
Posted by: Nobel_MBP | September 1, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
I think no matter what people think or say this hole thing need to be investigate and the thruth need to be unfold the American people need to know about Mrs Palin and that a fact? the way I loock at it this is not about the teenage girl 5 million of teenage girl do get pregnant that is not the issue the issue here is the office of the vice president that’s the issue we like to rush to conclusion about this about thay but that this time most be right because this is seruous time for seruous decision and evrything must be on the table to me that vital.God Bless Americans.I will rather loose a n election than looses a hight values of my country fondamental belief specialy the …just picture yourself an a river collecthing gold grain will you take all the sand grain with the gold home think about that oke God Blessyou and so you I and so do god to the country for there are some people praying.
Posted by: Ronald Roy | September 1, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Hurricane Gustav hits Louisiana, Hurricane Hanna is brewing in the Atlantic — and now Hurricane Sarah is headed for St. Paul, Minnesota!
Posted by: vernee43 | September 1, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Abstinence is fool’s solution to teenage pregnacies. Sarah Palin and McCain are therefore two foolish people trying to lead a smart nation.
Posted by: Jude | September 1, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Obama is for
1)Abortion
2)Sex Education for KINDERGARTENERS
3)Issuing Driver’s Licenses to Illegals
4)Decriminaling Drugs
5)Getting Rid of ALL DESCRIMATORY barriers when voting
*All i can think of is underage and/or felons
Posted by: michael | September 1, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Let’s see, what is more trashy? A young childs mistake? (by the way in Obama’s words this is a “punishment”) or the Obama camp and Obama infatuated media going after the underage daughter of a candidate? The “New Kind of Politics” no use protecting your daughters they’re fair game in the Obama camp. If the political target is female all the better. Watch the Obama camp drool for the opportunity.
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Any word that comes out of Palin’s mouth remotely relating to conservative family values is a joke. Nice pick McCain. LOL!
Posted by: Tronia | September 1, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
I just found online 5 republican governors that are waaaay more qualified than Sarah Palin. WHY NONE OF THESE GUYS ARE NOT EVEN CONSIDRED. oNE OF THEM IS MORE QUALIFIED THAN JOHN McCAIN HIMSLEF.
1-Mark Sanford (South Carolina)
2-Bob Riley (Alabama)
3-Jim Douglas (Vermont)
4-Jon M. Huntsman, Jr. (Utah)
5-Rick Perry (Texas)
Posted by: BOBSTER | September 1, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Why are bloggers blaming this on the Obama-Biden camp? They had nothing to do with this. Let Gov. Palin and her family deal with this matter. Fyi….the american public would have found out about the pregnancy in about 4 months.
Posted by: Dawn | September 1, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Why would she accept this nomination and allow her 17 yr old endure the national platform?
Posted by: mom24 | September 1, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
I am sure that the decision to accept the VP position was a Family decision not a Sarah Decision. They agreed and she accepted. Knowing full well that Bristol was prego. You know we are not electing Saints. Stick to the issues and leave the tabloid stuff alone. Bristol and the Palin family are doing the right thing. Not ending a childs life.
Posted by: RealDemocrat | September 1, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
How sly of the McCain campaign to release this potentially devastating information while the entire country is preoccupied with concern for those being affected by Hurricane Gustav.
But at the end of the day, what does this newest revelation say about Senator McCain’s judgment in selecting Palin, and what does it say about Palin’s parenting skills and family values (a theme the Republicans are so fond of), when her teenage daughter is already having unprotected sex, and as a result is now pregnant (it would also be interesting to know if the mom-to-be was 16 or 17 when she conceived this child).
Not only does Bristol’s pregnancy mean that both mother and daughter will each give birth during the same year, but perhaps Palin and the Republicans are forcing a shotgun wedding upon the father, whose age is not yet known.
The Democrats have already questioned McCain’s judgment, and now his VP selection corroborates their concerns because even if he was anxious to steal the Democrats’ thunder by announcing a female running mate, there were several other women he could have selected.
Posted by: lillietoo | September 1, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
With Obama you give him six years of state and national experienced, all lumped together. Obama was only a national senator for 2 years before he started campaigning. Sarah has been governor for two years, but it is generally accepted that running a state is better on the job training than being a senator. Besides, can anyone tell me the things Obama has accomplished. I have a difficult time finding reasons to vote for Obama (I also have a tough time finding reasons to vote for McCain.)
Posted by: forrestoak | September 1, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
McCain politicized Gustav, and God don’t like ugly. God sent him a real one. I sense we’re getting more ahem… damage control.
Bristol notably does not look pregnant in the out just last week PEOPLE MAGAZINE shots!
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Posted by: kravitz | September 1, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
What do you expect
Teen Pregnancy Prevention, Responsibility and Education Act 2006 s.2508
Authorized federal grants for sex education programs that discussed contraception, abstinence and std’s
McCain VOTED NO……
Posted by: Talk out of Both Sides of Mouth | September 1, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
This is a sad day for America. This is another example of why we are losing credibility around the world and respect for our leaders.
Posted by: ETM |
Very well written, agree with you 100%
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 1, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Obama needs to apologize to all woman for the sexist direction of the new democrats. With his “sweetie” attitude Obama has turned the democratic party into the pimp party.
And all liberals seem to have joined him with this new attitude that women are second class lightweights. The vile comments by the liberal media and bloggers all reinforce Obama’s vile image of woman.
Hillary we need to to be strong for us. Force Obama to apologize now or you will be setting woman back 200 years.
Posted by: Hillary2012 | September 1, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Someone stated McCain politicized Gustav, maybe. So did the Obama camp in saying that GOD was creating the hurricane against Republicans. Now is that political or RELIGIOUS?
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
In a resource rich state bordering Russia, wariness of international perils comes with the territory. This lady is Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard, our first responders in the event of a conflict with Russia. How does Obama have more international experience than that?
Her home town grew from 5,000 to 9,000 people because of her skill as mayor. How’s that for being a community organizer? She is a competent executive. How many business executives have more than 5,000 customers and nearly double the number after four years? Coupled with her current experience preparing the budget for a huge and complex state, Sarah Palin has 100% more executive experience than both Obama and Biden combined.
Isn’t executive experience needed in the White House?
Is it better to have been a gas bag senator than a mayor who fostered rapid growth in her town and who is now governor of a strategically critical state?
Compare that to Obama refusing to help his mother raise his little sister, blowing in from Harvard to hold meetings about apartment repairs in Chicago with radical socialists, forcing his incumbent female rival (Dr. Alice Palmer) off the ballot to take over the Hyde Park neighborhood State Senate seat unopposed, getting a mansion from Rezco for services rendered, filing a lawsuit to find dirt in a sealed divorce file so that he could force his strong Republican nominee off the ballot less than 90 days before the general election (replaced by idiot Alan Keyes) to win a U.S. Senate seat he would hold for a mere 100 days before deciding to game the DNC rules and brush Hillary aside for the Democratic Presidential Nomination.
Get a grip! Are you talking about choosing B.O., the megalomaniac opportunist, over McCain-Palin?????
Obama’s skill at gaming the Red State Dem Caucuses won’t help solve the problems in the Middle East. Obama won’t be able to remove Putin from the ballot so he can run unopposed for world leader. A flake like Obama can’t lead the world.
I’m pro-choice. But, I vote for character, not ideology. This lady is stellar. Whether you agree with her or not, you must admire the heck out of her. She is a champion. She makes everyone else in the field look like pygmies. If you put our nation above partisan politics, you have to support the McCain – Palin ticket. It’s clearly the best for America.
Posted by: RealDemocrat | September 1, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
” If the Democrats try to attack, it will backfire spectacularly.”
This is a blatant threat coming from an anonymous McCain surrogate. McCain and his campaign are resorting to intimidation to prevent any realistic issues being raised, like their lack of vetting Palin and the extreme lengths taken to hide her daughter’s pregnancy. The threatening stance may be an attempt to prevent the emergence of more facts.
Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Guess the National media and the Democrates are proving howing just how LOW they will go to win……..
Posted by: Vet1973 | September 1, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
I hope all the left wing haters are happy now. When ever I think the left wing goons have hit a new low, they surprise me. It is not enough to tap phones, slash tires, make up fantasy stories about the Texas Air National Guard, Call people of color racist names (Clarence Thomas, Michelle Malkin,Condoleezza Rice, to name a few)And to hope that Conservatives with life trheatening illnesses die a nasty death, (Laura Ingramn, Tony Snow and others). Now they are taking the politics of personal distruction to a new low. Don’t expect Barak Obama to decry this attack, or Senator Clinton, because this is all they have to work with.
Posted by: we_are_not_amused | September 1, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Palin “supports” her daughter’s “decision” to “have her baby.” Gee, that sounds a lot like Palin thinks her daughter had a “choice.” Of course it must mean something else because Palin believes women don’t have a choice. What breathtaking hypocrisy. McCain will be pulling her nomination within the week.
Posted by: E | September 1, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Every republican shook their head when they saw this story.
EVERY ONE !!!!!!!
They come on these blogs and try to play it off. But behind that computer screen they are DYING !!
Posted by: MsKay | September 1, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
I believed where Sarah Palin and John McCain failed was on Friday when he/she introduce her family.
She should have said “and this fall our daughter Bristol is going to bless us with our first grandchild, although the date of her wedding have not been worked out yet, we are looking forward to this new expansion of our family” end of story!!! She needs to come clean now before more stuff comes out. In order to dispel more rumors; I think Sarah Palin should release all of her medical and financial records immediately!!!
I’m a life long Dem. I think Palin and McCain is not right for this country I think you republicans, who are upset with the Neo-cons taking over of your party, should stay home in November. Don’t contribute money to or work very little for your party. At the end of the election they will review what went wrong and they will see that they lost a part of their base
Posted by: ramaci | September 1, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Republicans wouldn’t attack Obama’s children if one was pregnant? Of course they would.
This is about the fact that Conservatives are out of touch with reality. Abstinence-only sex education DOES NOT WORK.
Posted by: Chris | September 1, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Palin is the Britney Spears of politics.
Posted by: JJ | September 1, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
moo18—the same question of pallin running in light of her daughtewrs and why would she do this to her familly. i beg to ask but doesnt obama have 2 young children also. but this brings us to quallification to run for president so what it it. i can tell by al this nitpicking the left is scared of what is in the air ., namely uncntrolled change. mcchange has done it he finally has done it. change we can believe in that can be felt. in one move he has turned the political landscape on end. and what has come front and center— the political issue of our lifetime. the issue with possibly 4 seats on the supreme court to to be appointed by the next president., that right the right to life issue the rallying cry for all people of good faith –now is the time –this is the moment to turn roe vs. wade in to the recycle bin and delete it forever — mcchange 08–change u can feel
Posted by: cisc | September 1, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Sarah Palin is moving sex education in this country years backwards, by accepting her daughters situation as norm. It is so obvious that Palin puts her appearance in the political limelight above her role as a parent. I can’t wait to see how Sean Hanity makes this situation seem acceptable to his listeners
Posted by: mark in Md | September 1, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
I’ll leave it to the rest of you to say what you will about the predicament her daughter is in. Sadly, that can happen to anyone and in even the best of families. What I’m outraged by is the fact that McCain and his campaign knew before she was chosen, Palin and her family clearly knew, and yet they made a decision jointly to lie to the American public by conveniently not mentioning it. Also, they say their only reason for disclosing it now is to refute the earlier speculation over the infant son. What this means, if nobody’s figured it out, is that they only told the truth because they HAD to, and that they would’ve been happy to continue lying had this other story not been out there. I also want to point out that this not only again questions McCain’s judgement and fitness for office, it goes straight at hers as well. As a mother, how how HOW could she accept this nomination knowing her 17-yr old daughter is pregnant? How could she do that to her daughter? Either she’s naive, which I douubt, or she put her career and political motivations above what is best for her daughter. No loving mother knowingly and willingly puts her child into a position where her daughter is going to have her most personal struggle exposed in the national media spotlight.
As for McCain who supposedly stands for “country first”, he’s done a great job of exposing himself as a hypocrite. If you’re putting “country first”, you don’t purposefully lie to the citizens of that country. And let’s be clear, they would’ve kept lying if they hadn’t been forced to come forward. I’ve had 8 yrs of lies, I’m not voting for 4 more.
Posted by: Debbie Reid | September 1, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
This is just crazy. I cannot believe the hatred coming out of this site.
I am a 32 year old mother of a 16 year old son. I was a pregnant teenager. I made the decision to have sex, things got out of control, and I took responsibility for it.
My parents were great, they helped me through the tough times, but it was not their fault.. they had taught me about birth control until they were blue in the face.. I screwed up, not them.
Sure, it was hard.. extremely hard at times, but we made it through those hard times, and I now am a senior sales representative for Dell.
I was an Obama supporter, but after this ridiculous assassination of Sarah Palin’s character, I’m going to vote for McCain.
If this is what it is like to be a Democrat, then I’m embarassed.
Posted by: Jennifer | September 1, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Sarah Palin is a hypocrite. If she cannot rule her own household, how does she expect to rule a country and look out for the best interest of all our children/family. I think it was in bad judgement for McCain to choose her given her current situation. This is absolutely ridiculous!!
McCain has lost my vote and my respect!!
Posted by: RGASt | September 1, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Are you kidding me with all of this “what a beautiful christian woman” crap? Exactly what kind of values system is it that the American people are being asked to vote into office with the McCain / Palin ticket?
Is it good christian value to engage in premarital sex? Is it good christian value to engage in unprotected (against sexually transmitted diseases) sex?!
And, frankly, I’d like to ask what kind of a “leader” Sarah Palin could possible be . . .. this, the woman who would be a heartbeat away from the Presidency! . .. when she couldn’t even “lead” her own 17 year old daughter down a path that adhered to fundamental “christian” values?!! This woman, Palin, preached abstinence only! I guess she just didn’t preach it hard enough to her own daughter! Guess she was too busy running for political office, instead!
And, while I’m at it, as both a mother and a woman, I’m none too happy to hear that a woman who has an 8 month old developmentally disabled child, is willing to place her child, and her country in the position of having, inevitably, to make choices between the two were she to become veep! Vice President of the United States of America, and especially in these dangerous times, is a 24/7/365 job!! And, so should parenting a child with downs syndrome be! It’s not like she needs this job in order to pay her mortgage, after all! If elected, she will be in office for at least 4 years!! Over and over in those next 4 years that child is going to need his mother! . …not his father, not his grandma, not his sister and not his nanny;! And, I think Gov. Palin’s decision to accept this nomination speaks to nothing but her own selfishness!!
And, if that makes her a “good christian woman”, . .. then god help this country! Oh, and ps . .. . they want us to “respect” their daughter’s privacy? OK, I respect her privacy. . .. but, leave the “issue” alone? Let it die in the hurricane Gustav news cycle? . ..well my ass I will!! I want to scream from the mountain top that this country needs to know a helluva lot more about the judgement, priorities, and leadership ability of Gov. Sarah Palin!
Posted by: Sir Grace | September 1, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
I’m a conservative, but I agree that this choice of VP seems very ill conceived.
A 4 month old baby, a pregnant teenager daughter and 2 very busy working parents. Sadly it seems like political ambition, and not the well being of their family is driving the Palins.
Posted by: kara | September 1, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
WOW – what examples on this comment board of liberals going off the deep end – if this pregnancy news is their hope of winning, they are in for a surprise!
Posted by: Maria | September 1, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
It’s the Democrats fault that Bristol got pregnant!!
It’s their fault, and they owe us an apology!!!
Well its worth a try……
Posted by: Rush | September 1, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
I read somewhere that Obama’s mother also was a teenage mother, pregnant before getting married. I guess Palin’s daughter is making same kind of news for this year’s presidential election.
Posted by: Julie | September 1, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Remember the statement from one of the most incredible Teachers to have ever walked the planet: “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” The Palin family are honorable people who will make the right choice. Although Bristol has made a serious mistake in her young life, Bristol is not the first young woman to be in this situation. The self-righteous venom spewed in the statements from Obama supporters is scary and Bristol’s unfortunate choice does not warrant this outrageous response.
As for me, because of the incredibly ugly tactics of the Obama Campaign machine and the willingness of Obama’s Campaign to do ANYTHING to win, I am NOT voting for Obama/Biden.
I have never voted for a Republican for President, however this year after much consideration I am voting McCain/Palin. The Republicans have presented Candidates a thousand times more qualified to be President and Vice-President of this great Country.
When Obama/Biden loose in November, which they certainly will, Obama supporters have no one to blame but themselves. They have underestimated the number of Voters who are turned off by the underhanded, unethical “fear and smear” tactics used by Obama and his supporters. The majority of voters (and there are millions of us) see through these hypocritical actions. Obama represents the same old ugly political machine tactics. Sorry folks, the thug tactics of the Obama Campaign speak louder then the lofty words. McCain/Palin will be elected POTUS and VP come November 08!!
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Thou shalt not have premarital sex, except in Alaska.
Posted by: FilmMD | September 1, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Gov. Palin glad to see that whole abstinence program is working for you in Alaska. Is it not about time to start teaching responsible sex? Then and only then will unwanted pregnancies and abortions end! Teenagers and college age kids are going to have sex, lets stop pretending that abstinence works!
Posted by: lynn | September 1, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
I was an undecided voter, leaning toward McCain.
He lost my vote.
What poor judgement in selecting Palin.
Posted by: HillarySupporter | September 1, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
I really feel bad for Bristol. I hate the fact that she has been thrown into the national (and worldwide) spotlight over such a personal matter. I can’t help but blame her mother. Sarah should have known that every reporter in the nation would be investigating everything about her and her family and that this story would have come out eventually. If Bristol was my daughter, I would have passed on McCain’s offer. I love my children too much to risk putting something like this in the national spotlight. Being a teenage mother is hard enough, but when the world is watching it makes it that much more difficult. Sorry Bristol, my prayers are with you and your baby. God Bless.
Posted by: JERRY WOJENSKI | September 1, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
I’m a Democrat. I was pleased with Obama’s decision to choose Joe Biden. Biden has Capitol Hill experience the Obama lacks. Like most Democrats, I have been concerned by how close this election seems to be running.
I was shocked by John McCain’s choice. I’m an intelligent, college-educated, working mom. I believe that I could probably be mayor of my small town if I had the proper advisors. I KNOW that I am not qualified to be vice president (and ESPECIALLY not president) of this large and diverse country. Where would one even start??? John McCain is too old to have chosen someone with such poor qualifications.
Sarah Palin’s 17 year old daughter is having a child. In the grand scheme of life, this is not important. I wish them the best of luck. Their decision to keep the child is just that–”their decision”. (Luckily, everyone still has the choice to make for themselves.) However, in today’s political climate, it just seems to underscore the many questions about Sarah Palin. She believes in abstinence-only education enough to pull her children out of public school where they may have learned more about other options. Would it have made a difference? I don’t know, but at least we would know that this child knew of other options. Now she has chosen to become a mother rather than enjoying those wonderfully selfish years of young “adulthood”. Again, I’m greatful for a country where this is still a choice.
I think Sarah Palin herself chose to put her child in the limelight of this election and the expected mud-slinging. You can’t run on a platform that is so judgemental and expect your family to be exempt. I disagree completely with the posts that question the child’s character and personal values and hope that none of those calling names ever “sinned”. But we should be allowed to question Sarah Palin’s values and choices especially since she is trying to impose them on me and my family.
Posted by: Dem | September 1, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
People this situation is not about Obama and you can’t really spend it that way. This is about Sarah Palin, Bristol and their family. No, when you get teenagers they do have their own mind and they rebel, but right now Sarah Palin’s family needs her more than the country does. Somethings have to start at home, then you can truly walk the talk!
Posted by: Shawn | September 1, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Interesting that some of you are using this blog to preach against abortion. I’m an independent voter in Texas, and I believe that abortion is wrong; however – I’m still pro-choice. Some of you will eventually learn that you cannot legislate morality. You should instead turn your focus to caring for other people and leading by example – instead, you enjoy and seem to thrive on the venom. Sadly, you are really missing the message of the ministry of Christ – and I pity your waste of precious time.
Posted by: Beverly in Ft Worth | September 1, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
McCain has proven, once again, that he has very bad judgement. I am worried about our future in this ever changing world…and now this?
For the first time in my life I will be voting for the Democrats.
Shame on the incompetent Republicans.
Posted by: Linda Taylor | September 1, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
I guess abstinence only sex education didn’t work out in the case of 5 month pregnant, 17 year old Bristol Palin.
It seems strange that no one, not even her staff, new Sarah Palin was pregnant up until the time she gave birth back in May.
So much for a VP candidate that’s free of scandal–Daughter Bristol Palin’s teenage pregnancy (pregnancies?), Dad’s DWI and Mom is under investigation by the Alaskan Legislature…yep, Palin just wreaks of family values.
Posted by: Hank | September 1, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
McCain has proven, once again, that he has very bad judgement. I am worried about our future in this ever changing world…and now this?
For the first time in my life I will be voting for the Democrats.
Shame on the incompetent Republicans.
Posted by: Linda Taylor | September 1, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
sorry its not mcsame no more —iiittttsss mcchange change you can feel
Posted by: cisc | September 1, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Hey libs! palin has been in elected office for 13 years!…governor for 18 months.U guys are attacking this situation cause its all u got…and ur partisan actions make u look desperate.If anything this enforces she is a regular joe american! mccain/palin 08
Posted by: perry | Sep 1, 2008 1:25:07 PM……………..13 years? Are you seriously counting PTA? This is a new low.
Posted by: Sandra | September 1, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
McCain can forget about my vote. I’m switching my support to Barack Obama.
McCain continues to show poor judgment.
Posted by: Liberal Republican | September 1, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Just another selfish move from the palin’s. 1st a 43yo woman getting pregnant despite the risks known to man(down syndrome) why not adopt after having four kids already. 2nd they new their daughter was pregnant and accepted the vp nomination knowing it may run our country through the mud. its sounds like stat rape to me, how old is the dude anyway, anyone knows.3rd just found out she supported that bridge to nowhere in 2006. remember her acceptance speech thanks,but no thanks. what a liar. why don’t she go back to school and get her masters or something. she an undergrad with very high aspirations.god help us with whoever wins but clearly the better choice is obama/biden 2008. sincerely obamican
Posted by: lou | September 1, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Saving everything on the planet….except for innocent babies.
Obama Biden 2008
They’ll stick up for terrorist rights not to be beat up.
They’ll hand the scalpel to the doctor to carve up your kid.
What a team.
Posted by: Steven Wilson | September 1, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
how can you give birth before marriage? yes it is possible if you are non-believer. and i do not really understand how parents even support. this is just all knuckle head
Posted by: msdkan | September 1, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
You know what’s funny about all this. I’m reading a number of posts that claim democrats would encourage their children to abort their babies. Some of the comments are horrible on here. And some of you people are supposed to be religious with family values?? And you’re busy talking about Obama should have been aborted and horrendous stuff. No wonder the world is screwed up. People like you guys are contributing to the spew of hate. Who says this kind of stuff unless they are contributing to all the problems in this world. While you’re spreading lies about Obama and other people just because they don’t shre your viewpoint. How do you know your daughters are not getting an abortion behind your back and your son hasn’t made a girl pregnant. You don’t know anything just like Sarah didn’t know anything going on with her daughter.
Posted by: Athena | September 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
NICE…and this mother will be the second in commad??? She’s not qualified! I’m outta here!
Posted by: jenni | September 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
COME ON PEOPL….CALM DOWN !!!!
I almost feel sorry for the old man and the republicans……….NOT !!!!!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA…
Posted by: Order | September 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
It’s strange that republicans were majority in congress and senate, they have republican president (still( and most of the supreme court justicies are selected by Bush, but yet they haven’t try even once to overturn Roe vs Wade. Sarah Palin’s daughter could have abortion anytime. Maybe she will.
Posted by: BOBSTER | September 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
You can’t legislate morality and as the Palin girl’s teenage pregnancy proves, the government cannot regulate personal responsibility or the lack their of.
Posted by: tank chop | September 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
This news has NOTHING to do with Obama so stop with all the criticism. I’m sure all you self-righteous conservatives would be very supportive and understanding if Obama or Biden has a knocked up daughter, right? Sure you would.
Palin should be ashamed of herself for putting herself before her daughter. She should not have accepted the nom given her daughter’s situation as it has put her in the world’s spotlight.
Obama and Biden get my vote.
Posted by: mama | September 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
It isn’t news that Bristol is pregnant – teen age girls get pregnant without benefit of matrimony all the time: that’s “dog bites man” territory.
Much hay will be made of the fact that Palin the elder, who supports abstinence as an exclusive form of birth control, couldn’t govern her own daughter’s behavior, but that’s not news either.
The news is “the judgement thing”, McCain’s judgement.
He says he knew that Bristol was pregnant when he offered her the VP slot, and did so anyway. What EXACTLY was he thinking?
He was obviously not thinking of the attention this would draw away from the real issues he says he cares about so much.
Did he worry at all about the dissonance between Palin’s hard line positions and the far more human reality of her family drama? Or what it woyuld do to Palin’s family? Have the vetted Bristol’s husband to be? Is that poor kid ready for his close up?
And did McCain consider what the Karl Rove Republican’s, those who engineer campaigns to mercilessly win at any cost, would think about a Presidential candidate who choose an reproductive rights opponent with a pregnant daughter, and then allowed circumstances to force their announcement?? (And please… no one is buying the “squash the rumors about Trig’s real mother” line – was there ever a more pathetic cover story?).
No, the real news is the the judgement thing, the same judgement thing that led McCain to chose, after a total of 75 minutes of conversation (15 minutes at the Governer’s convention in February plus a 60 minute cell phone call), a Governor with 20 months of experience, who had previously been the mayor of her home town of 6,500 or so. He threw the dice.
The American people are very generous with public officials, but the voters of Ohio and Pennsylvania and Michigan are making up their minds, one person at a time.
Maverick?
Maniac.
Posted by: johnzero | September 1, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
How can you Neo-cons attack the media and “the left” for reporting and posting the truth? Republican VP Sarah Palin 17yo daughter (when is her birthday?) is pregnant. How is reporting that fact wrong? How long do you sit on the story? two months? Four months? a year?
Posted by: ramaci | September 1, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Putting aside this sensational story about Palin’s daughter, Plalin is a dangerous choice for VP. (By the way, it was McCain’s campaign that released the story, not Democrats. It was pure damage control designed to head off what is now happening))
The choice of Palin for VP shows very poor judgment on the part of McCain and puts the United States in real danger if they are elected.
- She has NO qualifications and her world view would make her a dangerous VP and potential President. It is doubtful she could pass a college entrance exam in history, civics, science, or economic.
- Being mayor of a small Alaska town of 9000 gives her a very distorted view of big city or even small city problems.
- Being governor of Alaska for just over a year and not doing a very good job of it, should be a red flag.
- As VP she would be president of the US Senate. She knows almost nothing about the legislative process and dislikes the little she does know as proven by her governship. What chaos she would create!
- She knows nothing of other cultures let alone have any international exposure of any kind.
- She knows nothing about the US economy.
- She knows nothing about technology and its impact on our society.
- Her religious convictions, which shape her political thoughts, are out of step with nearly all main line Christian denominations.
- She knows nothing about factors that affect either global or local environment.
- Her entire energy experience is about feeding the American oil addiction with more Alaskan oil and her short sighted policies in Alaska proves it.
- Her personal hunting practices are irresponsible even by NRA standards.
- Healthcare problems are not her problem.
- Her entire knowledge of the military consists of using a 12-gauge on Polar bears at the garbage dump.
- And it appears that her position on birth control, contraception, and family planning are completely counter productive.
Posted by: Good-ol-Bob | September 1, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Look everybody make mistake, and thing like teenager pregnancy happens among family. But my issue is she never mention it first before her first audience at ohio. It would have been better she mentions it herelf, but allow the bloggers to bring up the story which was a bad deciion. it just play into the narrative that this woman was not vetted. Like John Edwards sexual story, this story has legs and there are more details to come.
Is this the republican value girl?
Posted by: D.Johnson | September 1, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
At least the Dems promote responsible birth control methods to AVOID the pregnancy in the first place.
Posted by: mom2many | September 1, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Palin as vocal member of the Alaska Independent Party which wants Alaska to secede from the United States. Is this the kind of patriotism we want running the country?
She is after the oil, people, wake up and smell the petroleum. Four more years of the same last eight years.
Posted by: peace | September 1, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
WHO IS THE “YOUNG MAN SHE IS GOING TO MARRY.” Why all the secrecy? Maybe they don’t know who they are going to select at this time. I wonder how much they will have to pay him. I’m sure Grandma-to-be Sarah will make a financially attractive offer for the right “young man.”
WHY ALL THE SECRECY? WHAT YOUNG MAN?
Posted by: rhbate | September 1, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
am a republican, life-long for that matter.
I am deeply embarrased by the way McCain made this VP choice.
A woman he met once for 15 minutes at a govenors meeting just before offering her the VP slot. A woman he now calls his partner and soulmate. This is getting weirder by the day, reminds me of Bush and Putin. McCain I an a woman and cannot vote for you.
Your behavior is reckless and your judgement in doubt. I will have to vote for the Democrat this year I wache both of them on 60 minutes last sunday and I liked what I saw and heard.
Posted by: Linda | September 1, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Lets see…. McCain abandons first wife who McCains own mother sues, lies about his age to his super rich young future wife who never speaks to her sister.
Then we have the pot smoker, who’s husband is a pot smoker, who’s own children get knocked up….
BALANCED TICKET I MUST SAY!!!!
Posted by: This is Scary | September 1, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Hey johnzero,
You’re right. Political parties should always be held accountable for their actions in relation to their platform. I hope you would also include the democrats by constantly preaching economic betterment to the poor, all the while making the poor even more poor and dependant.
Posted by: mm | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
anyone think it’s a coincidence that this news is breaking at precisely the same time that Gustav is overflowing the levees in NO?
And, how this is also an effort to take speculation off of the fact that she hid her daughter’s first pregnancy by pretending it was her own. AND, now she’s even using that poor grandchild’s Downs Syndrome for political gain. What a vampire!!!
Posted by: Dave in Hartford | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Oh, can you just imagine the spin that Rush Limbaugh will have to use to comment on this?..
Posted by: UYOH1234 | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Let’s not forget in Obama’s own words in his books how in college he ran after women trying “get laid”. And how “pursued drugs enthusiastically”. “Enthusiastically”. He did not just “inhale”. He was “enthusiastic” about his drug use and womanising. How hypocritically. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone at the Obama campaign. Lol! Lol! Lol!
The Obama people are grasping at straws! Lol! Lol! Lol! Who cares Palin’sdaughter got pregnant before she married the father. Unfortunately it’s the times we live in. But maybe we can all “change” and get old fasion godly morality.
Nothing will “change” with pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage Democrates. Lol! Lol! LOl!
Danny
Posted by: Dannygirl | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
This entire event, from beginning to end, is a misogynist attack on a female candidate AND her female daughter. It started with the liberal blogs rumoring about Pallin’s baby not being hers, but being her daughter’s, a la Bree vandeKamp. And the louder and more agressive those pathetic stories were, the sadder I felt for the women of America. Liberals are STONING these women. Both Pallin and her daughter are being treated no better than a women in the middle East. The STONING is done because of the fear of having a powerful woman in office. Most 17 year old girls run the risk of pregnancy. In 1770, 1 in 3 brides was very young and very pregnant when they married. So what? In a society where celebrities don’t even wear panties, why is this a surprise? In the 50s and 60s, tons of 17 year old girls were pregnant. MORE than you would guess- that is where many infertile families adopted babies from. Those liberals really must be running scared to show their misogyny at such an intensity. I’m proud that Pallin loves her daughter, and though a baby is tough on a 17 year old, it can be done. Why should Pallin be told to stay home?? BS!No one said president Kennedy should stay home- he was worshipped while he had 2 kids and cheated on his wife over and over. Children are cared for by their dad in a lot of households- it’s not like she is not going to be home. MISOGYNY! all of it.
Posted by: YumYum | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
All of you haters will have your chickens come home to roost soon enough. A teenage girl gets pregnant. Not only does she have the guilt of embarrassing her parents but she has the added burden of having her private life spread all over the internet. Here is what conservatives do when their daughters get pregnant. They get married, instead of heading straight to the slaughter house (abortion clinic). The Governor is being honest and up right about it. Judges, I have this to say . We shall see. Children ,especially teenagers , can be one thing in front of mom and dad and another in front of their friends. Having a baby is not shameful. Having it out of wedlock can be an embarrassment. But then you have Presidents who have flings with interns. Truthfully if we weighed the parties by moral standards the GOP would win as the most moral. But what are moral standards today anyway? To some of us morals define our character. To others they are prejudices against wanton behavior. Knowing conservatives as I do (being one myself) our children are not perfect; neither are we. Conservatives are optimistic,caring, loving people.I commend the Governor for being so forthright. It shows good moral character and reveals an honest heart.
Posted by: wildstarr | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
As far as her high approval rating in Alaska goes, many newly elected politicians have high approval ratings (Bush was in the 80s at one time in his presidency). Show me a governor of a state with a substantial population (at least 2 million people) who’s popular deep into his/her SECOND term, and I’ll show you a good governor.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
OMG! Teenage pregnancy happens. It doesn’t make Sarah Palin shameful or a neglectful mother. It is what it is and it is something that has to be dealt with. Shameful and embarrassing are comments like Chelsea Clinton didn’t get pregnant because no one wanted her because she looks like a walrus. This has nothing to do with her and she shouldn’t be put down like that regardless. If this makes even one parent have a real sex and protection conversation that prevents even one teenager from going through this kind of a hard time, then it serves a good purpose.
Posted by: Keli Oelerich | September 1, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Steven Wilson… Before you go lecturing others…just how many children have you adopted or taken in as a foster parent to help aleviate the terrible situation that so many of these children are in? Esp. those w/ severe medical needs.. you know.. the ones on ventilators,catheterizations,etc.
Yeah.. that’s what I thought.
Loser.
Posted by: mom2many | September 1, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
To the 32 year old Dell sales rep with the 16 year old son. .. I have the utmost, absolute respect for you, and for your decision. But, the difference is that you are not and were not running for the highest office of this land on a platform that preaches the values of fundamentalist christianity . . .. i.e. – abstinence, no sex before marriage, family values that would presumably include spending time knowing where your children are, who they are with, and what they are doing. The issue is as to the “platform” that this woman and her party “(GOP) are running on. What kind of a leader will she be? And, from what I see now, by virtue of the fact that her own daughter did not follow her mother’s leadership, then I don’t think she’d make a very good veep, at all! And, I applaud your decision, and your bravery in your posting. But, I’m sorry to say that I probably don’t think that I would have voted for your own mother, either, under the circumstances. This is about “leadership”. … not a personal choice that this 17 year old now has to make, or that you did at 16 years old. You can’t run for a leadership position, and on a leadership platform, and not demonstrate exemplary leadership where it counts most . . .. at home! That’s all! This isn’t an argument for or against “teenaged pregnancy”. It’s an argument about Sarah Palin’s ability as a leader!
Posted by: Sir Grace | September 1, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Everyone makes mistakes and needs time and kindness to recover from them. For Bristol to be going through a first time out of wedlock pregnancy in the national spotlight is a travesty. We are blessed to have many well qualified men and women who could be VP Sarah Palin needs to step aside and take care of her brand new gift of a special needs child, help her daughter through a difficult and confusing time, hold her hand as her baby is born, help her plan a wedding (if that’s the choice) figure out what to do about completing high school, take care of her other two young girls at home, work as she will at her govenorship in Alaska and not take on the rigors of campaigning, and the vice presidency of the United States of America. There are many people to take care of but, in particular, God blessed her with those special few and she must do her best with them first. As Jackie Kennedy was famous for saying, “If you don’t do a good job raising your children, then nothing else you do in life counts.”
Posted by: LW | September 1, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
“I was an Obama supporter, but after this ridiculous assassination of Sarah Palin’s character, I’m going to vote for McCain.”
Jennifer, if you were truly an Obama supporter, I’d expect you’d be intelligent enough to know the difference between Obama and people posting on a message board over whom he has no control. I certainly don’t hold McCain responsible for all of the nasty venom that gets spewed against Obama on message boards every day. There is no evidence that anyone connected to Obama had anything to do with pushing the rumors about Sarah Palin and her daughter. I am sorry some of my fellow Obama supporters have crossed the line, but if you are judging candidates by the way their supporters online behave, you might want to look at some of the crap McCain’s supporters say about Obama before you give him your vote.
Posted by: Laura | September 1, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Sarah Palin liked Ron Paul when he was running for president, NOT McCAIN. Ron Paul also deliveried thousands of babies. How ironic, this just one big puzzle coming together. Scelletons are just crawling out of closet.
Posted by: BOBSTER | September 1, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
If Palin’s daughter and boyfriend(?) were going to get married, why have they waited so long? Time is getting short, dearies. Do I smell a shot-gun wedding??
Posted by: Christimarie | September 1, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
17 and pregnant. When I was in high school back in ’73, this wasn’t news, this was just life. At 17, I had my own apartment, was working 40 hours a week, and trying to go to college. What’s the big deal? Oh yeah – this is an election year, and EVERYTHING is news.
Posted by: Namako | September 1, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
The Dems will stay away from this as Obama’s mom was 18, and 3 months pregnant when she and B. Hussein Sr. married (although he was already married to someone in Kenya). Wonder who McCain would be running against if Ann had aborted at such a young age?
McCAIN/PALIN
Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Why is everyone dissing abstinence education? It is a viable option for one to avoid getting pregant. It does not work 100% of the time, but to claim that abstinence teaching has never prevented a pregnancy is just wrong. It’s like saying, “stop wearing seat belts” because numerous peole you know have been killed in car accidents who were waring their seat belt.
Posted by: mm | September 1, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
How’s this going to play with the American Family Values / Abstinence crowd? Not exactly the role model they were looking for is it? oops.
Posted by: Rick_VT | September 1, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
wright aint right–u seem to have a memory problem you forgot JOHN EDWARDS maybe its just short term memeory loss
Posted by: cisc | September 1, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
What about Bristol Palin? Why would her mother disregard her privacy? Her mother should have been strong enough to weather a silly rumor but instead gave it credence by saying her daughter is now pregnant.
Posted by: george | September 1, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
This news means Palin’s daughter became pregnant during a time when she missed several months of school this year recovering from a severe case of mono. That cannot be healthy.
This family needs to take a closer look at their priorities.
Posted by: Joseph | September 1, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Linda, Hussein means Beautiful Boy- like Beau. Please stop with the trashing of Obama and start wondering what family values means for the Republican party – pregnant teen agers? Much can be said about Palin, but the real story is that McCain, unlike a good general, gave up his strong point about experience by amazingly bringing in someone who, unless you are on drugs, has essentially no relevant experience. Beyond that, this shows a complete lack of good judgment by McCain and lack of understanding of Hillary supporters, who were not voting with someone just because they had ovaries but because Hillary had real, solid experience, vision, proven leadership, and good judgment. In my heart, I feel sorry for Republicans who are trying to sugar coat this decision. Please know, you are welcome in the Democratic/Independent tent and your views, vision, and leadership can contribute to the change we need.
Posted by: bubbahunk08 | September 1, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Boy I tell you…..
You repubs are catching H#LL today.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA…
Posted by: Order | September 1, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
W-a-a-y down this thread, Vet 1973 said: “Guess the National media and the Democrates are proving (s)howing just how LOW they will go to win……..”
How lame. The national media merely reports the news, and Democrats had NOTHING to do with a 17-year-old getting pregnant. She and the father DID.
Posted by: vernee43 | September 1, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
The self-described Family Values party! Hypocrites as always. They’ve already started the spin, but the fact is Palin couldn’t teach her own daughter to ABSTAIN from underage premarital sex but McCain thinks she can run the country. What about Todd Palin’s criminal DUI record?
Posted by: derek jacobs | September 1, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I wonder what the fund raising numbers will look like now?
Posted by: Oooopps | September 1, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Did I miss something? I guess I need to read other stories because I don’t see anything in this little story about how the Obama/Biden campaign is attacking Palin’s character.
I’m just glad to see that the Bush Abstinence Only education is working.
I like how the McCain campaign released this story when the headlines are being dominated by Hurrican Gustav. Nice…just like everything, try to hide the truth.
Did we ever find those weapons of mass destruction??? Funny…I don’t think we did.
I say this, don’t stand on the mountain top and claim to be something when in reality you are not. We are all human and we make mistakes. But don’t sit there and claim that you are a hard-line conservative christain and then say it’s okay that one of your own has committed one of the mistakes you condone. Pre-marital sex? Pregnant and not married?
This girl is going to be viewed as someone who is “strong” and “will make it”. However, if it was an ordinary teenager who didn’t have the support of family and had to rely on welfare to help her make it, she would be looked down upon.
Posted by: BJM | September 1, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
This is news because the republicans have always had a holier than thou attitude. They have always condemned dems for not having christian and family values.
Posted by: d | September 1, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Sir Grace said: “To the 32 year old Dell sales rep with the 16 year old son. .. I have the utmost, absolute respect for you, and for your decision.
But, the difference is that you are not and were not running for the highest office of this land on a platform that preaches the values of fundamentalist christianity . . .. i.e. – abstinence, no sex before marriage, family values that would presumably include spending time knowing where your children are, who they are with, and what they are doing.
The issue is as to the “platform” that this woman and her party “(GOP) are running on. What kind of a leader will she be?
And, from what I see now, by virtue of the fact that her own daughter did not follow her mother’s leadership, then I don’t think she’d make a very good veep, at all!
And, I applaud your decision, and your bravery in your posting. But, I’m sorry to say that I probably don’t think that I would have voted for your own mother, either, under the circumstances.
This is about “leadership”. … not a personal choice that this 17 year old now has to make, or that you did at 16 years old. You can’t run for a leadership position, and on a leadership platform, and not demonstrate exemplary leadership where it counts most . . .. at home!
That’s all! This isn’t an argument for or against “teenaged pregnancy”. It’s an argument about Sarah Palin’s ability as a leader!”
VERY WELL PUT, SIR!!!!
Posted by: Huzzah | September 1, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
First rule of politics – If you have a fool for an opponent – don’t comment on the opponent let them do it for you.
Rule number two – If you have a formidible opponent – attack their character and spread all manner of false rumor and slim. Try to get them off the ballot by any means. engage in personal destruction.
From the fact that the number of High dudgion Dems posting vs Reps it would appear they are really afraid of this fine VP pick and have the “Take No Prisoners” light lite.
Well have at it kids. Every time you make a nasty post you just put more energy into the base and stear more uncommited women over to the McCain/Palin ticket.
So keep it up, saves us a tom of money and time.
Posted by: joe, farmington,NH | September 1, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Sarah Palin is America! She represents what ordinary Americans go through more than any other VP candidate in American history. We NEED a real person in the White House. Obama, made his no vote on the Iraq war his central campaign issue against Clinton, YET he chose Joey Bidden an Iraq war supporter as his running mate — this is a slap in the face to all those who voted for him based on his Iraq vote. The truth is we Democrats have been duped by a do nothing congress that has managed to have a lower approval rating than the President. If you vote for Obama/Bidden you will vote for the same ole thing. These millionaires will not get us out of Iraq.
Posted by: Ted | September 1, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
And Dobson endorsed this? LOL
Posted by: lizzy | September 1, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
I remember a time when people had a right to their own personal business. They were better times. Sometimes I wish we had never fought for Roe v Wade. It opened up to allowing every blithering idiot in the country to give their opinion on how someone else should live. I grew up in better times when people knew their boundaries. I miss those times.
Posted by: dazey | September 1, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Well the repulicans and evanliglistic conservatives are real angry. Sorry, don’t blame Obama or democrates we did not get Palin’s daughter pregant, we are not the blame for Palin’s and other ultraconservative views, Democrates and Obama hope for the best for this young child, remember Obama has two little girls of his own. Conservatives are so bitter they are using words like goon to describe Obama and his followers, its ok we understand how defeated you feel.
Posted by: Deborah Bayne | September 1, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Boy,
that’s a political punch indeed…
… IN YOUR FAITH! ;)
haha
Posted by: Pado | September 1, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Since the mother has a career, guess it must be the father’s falt.
Posted by: Paulus | September 1, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
HEY REPUBS….
HAPPY “LABOR” DAY !!!!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA…
Posted by: Order | September 1, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Sir Grace – What a ridiculous statement. That Palin’s teenage daughter failed to do what her mother said, that somehow represents a lack of leadership? Are you kidding me? I have four children and I can direct them until I am blue in the face, and that does not ensure they will do as I say. That does not mean I am a poor parent, or that I lack leadership abilities. Her child’s (and that’s what Bristol is) poor choice is not indicative of a mother or a VP’s lack of ability.
Posted by: Laurie | September 1, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
I don’t believe some of the comments on this site. How on earth is this the democrats fault that Palian’s daughter is pregnant? How is this dirty politics? This story was going to come out eventually. You can only hide a pregnancy for so long. How is this a smear campaign?
This is McCain and Palin’s fault for thinking it would not be an issue. Everything is fair game in politics like it or not.
Palin is either very naive or cold hearted to put her daughter through this kind of national scrutiny. Did it even occur to her that this would come out?
I think this would be an BIG issue if it was a male VP pick with a 17 yr old pregnant daughter. Especially for Republicans who love their “family values”.
The venom that some people spew makes me sick and sad. We could have a productive debate- but no let’s just stick to name calling and political rhetoric.
I choose to believe in hope not scare tactics.
Posted by: oregon dem | September 1, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
This really makes me question John McCain. This is a private matter that is now thrust into the public airwaves. It is important that our highest office represents the best people in the USA. What example does this set. Sara needs to head back to Alaska and John needs his to have his brain checked.
Posted by: kent3536 | September 1, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Democrats… attacking a 17 year old to get votes… yeah a what great party to be proud of…
Posted by: Vet1973 | September 1, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
So I guess that this announcement by the governor herself about her daughter’s pregnancy is supposed to squelch the rumors. But suppose she did originally did cover for her daughter… what is one more lie, and what if — wonders never cease in this case — it turns out that they later allege that this newly reported pregancy ends up in an alleged miscarriage? If that raises any eyebrows it will be after the election in November anyway, right? For me, if the original rumors are credible, this well-timed “announcement” is not evidence either way. In the original rumor, people at the local health center would have had to have been in cahoots with the Governor — and that could still be the case. I’m not saying the rumors are true, only that this announcement has no bearing whatsoever on their plausibility — unless of course you for some reason believe this new “fact” — but then why would you have believed the initial rumor? On the other hand, if they lied then, they are lying now — and the “beauty” of it (for them) is that the truth of this new revelation is unverifiable, unless Bristol, unlike her mother, is actually showing signs of being pregnant.
Posted by: f | September 1, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
I suspect we will soon hear an announcement from the VP candidate that she will be withdrawing so “I can spend more time with my family”.
Posted by: JohnS North Carolina | September 1, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Why is everyone fighting about this? Is this really even an issue?
I’m a young guy, and I’m an Obama supporter. A lot of us are idealists, and we’re frustrated by how cynical and shallow American politics have become.
There are lots of low blows here, and most of them, honestly, are obviously coming from the Republican side. The same thing happened in 2000 and 2004.
I think this is one of the main reasons that most people under 35 are turning Democratic. Since I was old enough to vote just over ten years ago, both elections were won not because the Republicans fielded good candidates, but because they slandered Democratic candidates.
It’s really disgusting how negative many posters have been. Why be so angry and partisan?
Remember what the good book says about ‘casting the first stone.’ This is like the Tower of Babel– even though we speak the same language, we don’t seem to understand each other.
If you truly look at Obama’s message, he is an idealist, he is an optimist, and he is a good Christian. Perhaps this seems naive in some ways, but let’s be honest…
Jesus Christ was a pretty naive guy. That’s part of what made him special. He was not a cynical person. He was an idealist.
WWJD, everyone? Maybe the Republicans weren’t so bad in the past, but they sure seem a lot like the Romans now, so let the Romans fall.
Posted by: I Care about this Country | September 1, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
My mother always said: “Practice what you preach
Posted by: Guffaw | September 1, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Deborah Bayne,
Thanks for your kind message. Although the republicans are somewhat frazzled over the news of Sarah Palin’s daughter, I assure you the exposion of out of wedlock births in this country can be mostly attributed to your democrats for the establishment of welfare and entitlement laws that perpetuate this behavior.
Posted by: what did you say?? | September 1, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Barack Obama was a “Mistake”… His mother married his father when she was 2 months pregnant.
Why aren’t we ripping the crap out of her right now?
Look, guys, this is a non-issue that the Democrats are using to try to smear Palin. It completely goes against their message of feminism and women’s rights.
It will backfire, and the Democrats will continue to shore up their image of hateful smear mongers.
Good luck with that guys…
Posted by: Scott | September 1, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Can you imagine what is going through the minds of Romney and Pawlenty???
“You picked the Spears-Family-On-Steorids instead of one of us?!?!?”
Posted by: Jackie | September 1, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Well if it was Obama’s daughter she would have gotten rid of the child. Obama wouldn’t want his daughter to suffer!! I am so proud of Senator McCain. He handled it like a proud Father and or Grandfather. I will now vote for him & Palin. He did not shun this women or put her in a closet. I have been where Sarah is. God Bless them. Think how Sarah felt when John McCain said that it was alright. No wonder her and her whole family will fight tooth and nail for John McCain to be elected!!! So will I.
Posted by: Fae | September 1, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
She will have lots of love and support from her family and that’s what she needs most right now. Pray for Bristol and her family.
God Bless!
Posted by: Bethie | September 1, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Why don’t all of you obamabots, practice what you preach and quit bashing governor palin because of a mistake her child made. I am guessing by all of the negative posts that everyone has perfect children who never do anything wrong. what would be the flipside if she was a liberal and bristol wanted to keep her baby? she would be crucified for that too. How about if she gave her daughter the choice to abort the child? People would be calling her a hypocrite. The truth is that the abortion issue in the country is split down the middle. And believe it or not, it isnt always the deciding factor in a woman’s vote. i wish the PC police would guard against sexism like they do racism.
Posted by: slavic_sal | September 1, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Oh dear, can’t wait to see more drama-soap opera from this ticket.
Posted by: Blue | September 1, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
So I guess that this announcement by the governor herself about her daughter’s pregnancy is supposed to squelch the rumors. But suppose she did originally did cover for her daughter… what is one more lie, and what if — wonders never cease in this case — it turns out that they later allege that this newly reported pregancy ends up in an alleged miscarriage? If that raises any eyebrows it will be after the election in November anyway, right? For me, if the original rumors are credible, this well-timed “announcement” is not evidence either way. In the original rumor, people at the local health center would have had to have been in cahoots with the Governor — and that could still be the case. I’m not saying the rumors are true, only that this announcement has no bearing whatsoever on their plausibility — unless of course you for some reason believe this new “fact” — but then why would you have believed the initial rumor? On the other hand, if they lied then, they are lying now — and the “beauty” of it (for them) is that the truth of this new revelation is unverifiable, unless Bristol, unlike her mother, is actually showing signs of being pregnant.
Posted by: frank burns | September 1, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
This pregnancy issue means very little to me. But I think that McCain has made a very dumb decision to pick her as his VP. She is such a wild card, and given McCain’s age, she could wind up being our president. You know what they say – the VP is “only a heartbeat away” from the presidency. This is all very scarey to me. I’m not voting for McCain – nope, no way.
Posted by: tom | September 1, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
The Republican spin- it’s this media’s fault that this girl got pregnant.
Posted by: oregon dem | September 1, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Sara needs to take her family back to Alaska and lets see John go at this again. This will be so very wild to see how all of this will play out.
Posted by: ktulsaok | September 1, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
For several years liberals have attacked W for unsubstantiated rumors of cocaine use. Yet Obama has admitted he was a coke head.
For several years liberals have attacked Cheney for his five Vietnam era military deferments. Yet now we learn that Joe Biden received five Vietnam military deferments.
And now there is massive liberal sanctimony over the pregnancy of the candidate’s daughter. I wonder if this is how liberals at Planned Parenthood react when teen seek their help when they’re in trouble.
Liberals are such hypocrites. They are so gleeful to see a pregnant teen. They’d love nothing better than to see bodies floating in New Orleans. And they’d like the bodies to be black so they can play the race card. They’d love to see millions of Americans bankrupt, foreclosed and homeless.
Posted by: justthefacts | September 1, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Sophie, your daughter may be a stay-at-home mother. Good for her, as long as she and her husband are in total agreement about this.
Please do not forget that there are fathers who raise their children full time while the mother works. If Palin becomes the VP, I’m sure that her husband will take care of their children. Fathers have rights too, and they should not be left out of the family equation.
Going back to the Palins–I doubt that one salary can take care of a family of seven in a state where the cost of living is obscenely high. In Mexico, families of 10 or even 15 are not uncommon, and both father and mother have to work in the fields to provide for their family.
I do not judge the Palins. They are far from a perfect family just as Obama’s family is not perfect.
Posted by: Anebt | September 1, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
People keep saying “if this was Obama’s daughter…”
Well, guess what? It’s not Obama’s daughter. So why make this about Obama and his daughters?
Shame on you, slanderers!
Obama and Michelle clearly didn’t make this choice. They are very proud of their daughters.
Posted by: I Care about this Country | September 1, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
“When it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include — which should include abstinence education and teaching the children — teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual,” he said.
“But it should also include — it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I’ve got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old,” he added.
“I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby,” Obama said.
Posted by: RS | September 1, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
What does this have to do with OBAMA — honestly.
But Palin is a loony and a terrible mother for putting her young daughter through this.
And how dare the republicans call this girl a hero for keeping her baby and marrying the father.
GIVE ME A BREAK!!
Posted by: Jeaneen | September 1, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Why are the comments so negative? How many decades have teenagers been having sex? My 15 year old cousin is hiding the fact she is having sex from her parents. I keep waiting for her to get pregnant. For everyone to judge the Palin family is ignorant and uncalled for. Look at all the celebrities having babies that aren’t married – Angelina, Matthew, Jamie Lynn – do I need to go on? Great role models for our kids. At least Sarah’s daughter is keeping the baby and doing the right thing.
Posted by: prolifelady | September 1, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
[Que green screen]
“THAT’S not vetting we can believe in…hehehehehehe” (McCain does sickly grin and weird laugh)
Posted by: Jackie | September 1, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Stay on the attack Dems….STAY ON THE ATTACK.
These repubs KNOW that the end is near. They HATE being on the defense !!!
Posted by: Order | September 1, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Oregon dem, you’re kidding right?
Posted by: Blue | September 1, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
“Just the Facts..”
That’s anything but the facts!
Why be so hateful?
Why be so intolerant?
You act as if the liberals are the intolerant ones, but why not look at yourself?
Why not take a deep breath and ask yourself why you are so angry?
Posted by: I Care about this Country | September 1, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
This casts a shadow of doubt on Palin. In the counseling profession, a 17-year-old gets pregnant because one or more of her parents failed in parenting, or was absent too much either physically or emotionally. Sometimes a pregnant 17-year-old get more parenting from her new in-laws than she ever got from her own parents.
Posted by: Sallie | September 1, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I got news for all you gleeful,vindictive, Obamdale supporters. There are thousands of families in this country who can relate to what the Palins are going through, and respect how they are handling it. Keep the hateful comments coming. It going to backfire on you big time.
Posted by: MinnesotaWildman | September 1, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
So why does Palin refer to her daughter marrying “the young man”?
Is he the father or not; or is she marrying someone whom she feels she maybe able to make a life with?
Posted by: BadBuoy | September 1, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I had to put in my two cents on a couple of comments I read above. One was that ‘if we elect Barack that Abortian rates will go up’ Some people have this idea that if you are a democrate you are for abortion, however some of us are very against abortions, but we don’t feel that it is our right to say that everyone else needs to be against it to, it is just like anyother issue, we are going to have disagreements, but my opinion does not have to be the right one. The other comments made was that Democrats are responsible for some many births because of well fare. I agree that there a lot of people in this country that take advantage of programs like welfare, but let’s be honest do think these people make a profit on wellfare, after all it costs way more money to raise the childrent than the goverment is going to give you. However without these programs, those kids would be on the streets, is that the better idea? With these comments being said I certainly will not generalize Republicans like some of you like to generalize Democrats.
Posted by: I can't believe I am typing this. | September 1, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
So how old was she when she got pregnant? Who’s the father – how old is he?
Let me get this straight – a conservative politician who opposes any sex education in school beyond abstinence education winds up with a pregnant 17 yr old daughter who “wants” to keep the child and marry the father – I thought parents should be looking out for the best interests of their children. Is this what she means by looking out for the best interests of the country?
Posted by: hector | September 1, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Do people still believe abstinence programs work? Lets see, a couple of months ago, Britney Spear’s “Christian upbringing” family found her 16yr old sister pregnant. Now Palin’s “Christian upbringing” 17yr old daughter is pregnant. It’s patently evil how these people cause such mishaps on their family just to maintain old superstition.
Posted by: Mark Jonnsun | September 1, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
And for those who are saying what if it was Obamas daughter?
If that was the case you right wing jackals would be ripping them with an animosity that would have little comparison with this blog.
Posted by: What If? | September 1, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Idiots, Do the math. Baby Trig was born in mid April. Bristol is 5 months pregnant. (I’ve known quite a few ministers’ daughters that got knocked up. It happens.The girl is 17 and is getting married.She and her husband and child will be in Alaska.)
Women sure do like to attack other women.
Posted by: mhm | September 1, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Religion, Politics and Money are the most dangerous things in the world. Religion could be a good thing if so many people didn’t abuse it and use it for their own purposes and create war over it. Some of these comments about this story are disgusting. No real moral person would say some of this stuff and claim they are good decent people. Like saying someone should have been aborted. Wow so mature. WAKE UP PEOPLE. This story was put out by Palin and has been published on all the media outlets. Why are you all trying to blame the story getting out on other political groups? Think people!
Posted by: Athena | September 1, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Minnesota Wildman,
Most Democrats are anything but gleeful and vindictive about this. I know people who have been in this situation.
The problem isn’t Bristol’s pregnancy. It’s that her mother and the McCain campaign lied to cover it up. It’s that McCain didn’t properly vet Palin, and this kind of decision shows that neither McCain nor Palin are making the kinds of intelligent, informed decisions that we need our president and VP to make.
Posted by: I Care about this Country | September 1, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Oh, and this really just boils down to poor decision making skills, and poor parenting skill can also be attributed. The daughter should’ve practiced safe sex, that is the bottom line, and her mother Palin should have taught their children that safe sex is a must, and not that god will protect you.
Also, I am sure this does not sit very well with the die hard conservative christians.
Posted by: Citizen in FL | September 1, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
So much for abstinence training and family values when Mom works hundreds of miles south in Juneau while Dad works hundreds of miles north on The Slope.
Posted by: BadBuoy | September 1, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
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…and Plagiarist-Joe’s son Hunter is one of the slimiest lobbyists in Washington.
So what to both!
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Posted by: ALEX H. | September 1, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Are we absolutely sure McCain knew about this beforehand? This all seems very strange to me. Or, is this yet another unpleasant surprise owing to McCain’s lack of vetting Palin? I really can’t believe that Senator McCain would have gone ahead with this choice if he really knew.
Posted by: Army Brat | September 1, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
I am deeply sadden by the news. However, it did not diminished my respect for McCain and Palin. Instead it strengthen my support for them. Good parents encourage their children to courageously and responsibly face their challenges in life. Palin’s daughter made a mistake as a teenager but not immediately committing to abortion is the right thing to do. I would have done the same for my daughters as a father and as a parent. If the Obama supporters want to criticize McCain and Palin for the mistake of Palin’s daughter, I wouldn’t be surprised. They are liberals.
Posted by: FortuneFavorsTheBrave | September 1, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
For days the rumor about Palin and a baby have been circulating on the www.
Now that a true story of a pregnancy the Obama campaign is being blamed…
It’s obvious John McCain did not know about this pregnancy– he is old school.
People from his generation do not believe in having children out of wedlock. So Palin kept this little secret to herself? I don’t know for sure but I don’t think McCain was looking for this type of attention when he picked his VP.
Just saw Rove wrangle his hands a bit while being interviewd on Fox on this subject. This is my first time seeing Rove a tidbit uncomfortable. He implied if the Democrats attack Palin on this subject it would make them condescending. He was kinda daring people not to express their thoughts.
Proof the GOP was caught off guard on the day their convention was scheduled to start.
What really disturbs me is Palin and camp is using her daughter’s act of having sex irresponsibly and turning it into an anti-abortion campaign soundbite. I don’t care where you stand on the issue but this is distrubing to me.
Our leaders are suppose to lead by example–The example of Palin’s 17 year old 5 months pregnant daughter being FORCED to marry is not a good example on how adults handle rough situations. If the couple intended to marry, there would be plans already made
The relationship between Mac and Pal is strained to say the least.
Posted by: clarity | September 1, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
“I got news for all you gleeful,vindictive, Obamdale supporters. There are thousands of families in this country who can relate to what the Palins are going through, and respect how they are handling it. Keep the hateful comments coming. It going to backfire on you big time.”
Minnesotawildman, that’s exactly what McCain is gonna do from now on. Use the drama factor to get votes. No one denies this is common in families. It’s too pathetic how McCain will use Palin and her family issues to his advantage to become president.
Posted by: Blue | September 1, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Why is it the conservative Christians always end up in the sex scandals?
Posted by: Citizen in FL | September 1, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
You Libs LOVE to ride Conservatives over family value issues because they can be held up against such values. Libs have no such family value adherences so they cannot be judged in such a way. If this were to happen to a Liberal representative you Libs would all over it going “it’s their business, leave them alone”.
Posted by: VoiceofReason | September 1, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
scott–The difference is that Obama’s parents were adults; and even then we see how well that relationship worked out. (And I’ve read a LOT of nasty posts about Obama’s parents.)
whatddyousay??–NO ONE gets pregnant to collect welfare. Get that ridiculous notion out of your head.
Posted by: MrsJones | September 1, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Stick a fork in her, she’s done.
Posted by: DoneFor | September 1, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
And for all you Obama haters he issued a statement to “back off” saying the issue is off limits. “Peoples families are off limits, peoples children especially are off limits” “We don’t go after other peoples families”
So just discuss vetting, inexperience, corruption, tax breaks for oil companies, ruining the environment…..
Posted by: Romney was better | September 1, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Let’s set aside the fact that the future of America has suddenly been reduced to an episode of Desperate Housewives. The point is the hypocrisy of the right wingers.
Were this anyone else’s daughter (Hilary’s or Michelle Obama’s), you right wingers (including Palin herself) would blame it on nothing less than *horrible parenting*: a daughter getting pregnant out of wedlock at 16, a shotgun marriage at 17. You’d be *outraged* by the lack of family values. “Moral judgement begins in the home.” “Children’s actions reflect their parents morality.” Etc. Look what happened, you’d say, while a person who calls herself a mother was off selfishly trying to advance about her own ego with a political career. A *mother’s place*, you would continue your shouting, is in the home, especially with 5 kids!
Just imagine the constant thrashing you and your loudmouth Rush Limbaugh-types would give Hilary or Michelle Obama as mothers in this situation!
Now suddenly you have to defend all those things against which you’ve been so vehemently opposed for so many years. Good luck with all your hypocrisies (or flip-flops as you’ve so happily called them in the past).
Posted by: patmac | September 1, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Let’s see. McCain throws his sick first wife under the bus to have an affair with a rich, young thing. Then Republicans push the good “character” talk about him. And Palin’s teenage daughter has a baby out of wedlock, and Republicans twist it for more Evangelical “family values” talk. Delusion illusion could be a Republican illness?
Posted by: Truth B Told | September 1, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Has anyone asked the father of Bristol Palin’s baby if HE wants to get married?
Posted by: Feminist in Ohio | September 1, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Good job Momma Palin! Another Abstinence Only success story…
I believe this is a wonderful example of IRONY.
Posted by: Old Squeakers | September 1, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
McCain is trying to relive the 60′s with his won version of a love in
Posted by: Peace and Unprotected love | September 1, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Hey Dems…DO NOT LET UP.
You BETTER believe that they wouldn’t !!!
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK
Posted by: Order | September 1, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Bad parenting
No lesson in abstinence
No lesson in birth control
So what was the lesson in?
Posted by: Citizen in FL | September 1, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Hmmmm…Don’t remember this being a part of Palin’s introductory speech on Friday in Dayton when she discussed her children at length… Interesting…But honestly, it happens everyday to many families. However, the performance of the year goes to the super judgemental right-wing conservatives that have to grind their teeth and smile as all of this unfolds. No one is fooled by their cherade! Come on, the conservative right is elated about a woman with 5 kids (yougest 4 months old) with a pregnant teenager being away from her family to dedicate the time it takes to be the VP?! Grin on, boys… we all know you did not wake up and be “okay” with this. Meanwhile, Millions of us independents are watching all of this unfold and trying to figure out who to grant our vote…
Posted by: Independent | September 1, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Squeekys daughter is pregnant?
I knew these people had that reality show way about them this confirms its.
Actually they would be excellent reality show material….
Posted by: WTF!! | September 1, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
For such a dedicated “hockey mom” I’m surprised Palin even accepted the VP nomination knowing how distracted she’ll be dealing with her daughter’s pregnancy and the extensive media attention on her daughter now. It’s obvious McCain was forced by the Right wing to pick her even though it is the most absurd choice. Now he claims he knew about Palin’s underage daughter. He was just asking to to lose which is fine with me. Instead of pandering to your base and turning this into Reality TV, here’s an idea care about fixing our economy and the American people’s concerns and problems.
Posted by: SNS | September 1, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
For such a dedicated “hockey mom” I’m surprised Palin even accepted the VP nomination knowing how distracted she’ll be dealing with her daughter’s pregnancy and the extensive media attention on her daughter now. It’s obvious McCain was forced by the Right wing to pick her even though it is the most absurd choice. Now he claims he knew about Palin’s underage daughter. He was just asking to to lose which is fine with me. Instead of pandering to your base and turning this into Reality TV, here’s an idea care about fixing our economy and the American people’s concerns and problems.
Posted by: SNS | September 1, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
wow.. all you stone throwers beware…. From a Christian perspective, we know.. no one is perfect…This family “news” does not change my mind one ounce.
Go McCain/Palin!
Posted by: not perfect in Atlanta | September 1, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Attacking a 17 year old girl is just sick. Apparently a lot of (organised) Obama supporters do not hesitate to attack a 17 year old girl. What does that make them?
Posted by: johan | September 1, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Repubs are total hypocrites. That’s not a new statement—we all know it, but this is really beyond belief. This is not a family matter; it is a public policy matter. She can’t even practice what she preaches and wants to force on others. What parent would put their child through this public humiliation, just to further their own ambition and massively inflated ego? And she eats moose and wants to chow down on a polar bear, too. What a hideous being she is. All those snotty, self-absorbed, tax cheating repubs usually do their best to keep trailer trash out of the country club. Griswolds, party of 7+.
Posted by: Patrick in the Red Neck Zone | September 1, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Oh great shock. 17-year-old young lady pregnant.
Duh…it’s what humans and every other species do. Even Republicans and Democrats and Communists and Fascists.
Nothing to do with ‘God’s blessing’ or anything else. Just two frisky teens.
The media now has more fluff to fill too much air time.
Posted by: Karie | September 1, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
If Obama supporters think Sarah Palin is going to withdraw as Candidate for VP you don’t understand the strength of women like her.
Sarah Palin shows the real courage that Obama supporters can not begin to fathom. In my opinion, Hillary Clinton has the same kind of courage. It is a shame that the Obama Campaign had to resort to Voter Fraud to win the Democrat Party Primary. Check the facts, the terrible voter intimidation and outright fraud committed in the Dem. Party Primary was totally documented by Dr. Lynette Long.
Obama had to resort to stealing the Dem Primary to win (Obama supporters tried to force Hillary out of the race too). Obama and his supporters are not the great representatives of ethical politics that they claim to be.
It was no accident that Obama choose Chicago to launch his political career. Obama learned underhanded tactics from the most notorious corrupt political machine in this Country. Let’s remember, he also had Rev. Wright, former Terrorist Bill Ayers and convicted friend and fund raising associate Rezko as his mentors.
Sarah Palin has more integrity in her little finger then all of the Obama Campaign leadership has together.
Women in America are tired of strong capable women being bashed by left (or right wing) ]. By attacking Palin and her family (like the attacks made on Hillary and Bill Clinton) you are only guaranteeing the McCain/Palin victory that we NEED AND WILL HAVE in November 08.
Former Hillary Supporter For McCain/Palin08
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
This is not about a seventeen year old girl getting pregnant, that happens everyday and of course thousands of people can relate to that. This is about a woman who accepted the nod to run for VP of the U.S. knowing her underage daughter was pregnant.Spin it any way you want, but McCain completly botched this selection. As for Palin asking the media to “respect the young couple’s privacy”, give me a break, you should have respectfull declined the offer.
Posted by: Mark in IL | September 1, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Christians will forgive Sarah Palin
They just probably won’t vote for her now, and especially if the candidate they supported the better qualified one was stiffed by McCain.
Posted by: Officially Over | September 1, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
and to those who want to say this isn’t a political issue:
gov palin is a politician who strongly advocates a policy position (e.g., abstinence only education) which has failed to work in the one area where her responsibilities count most – her home.
what would we say if a Presidential candidate crusading on an Anti-Drug platform had a son arrested for possession? Could we really believe what they had to say and offer as leadership?
it’s not a perfect analogy (i.e., getting pregnant isn’t illegal – wait, how old is the dad?) but this is a policy matter with real ramifications.
Posted by: hector | September 1, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
The posts on here represent another reason I will not support Obama.
The idiots attacking a 17 year old child should be ashamed of themselves.
You are actively putting down a child that made the same mistake made by millions of people. Many of you posting on here have made the same mistake, are a parent of a child that has done this or were a product of the same.
What was Palin to do? Lock her child up in a closet? You can teach a child values hoping they listen and learn, that does not mean that they will.
The fact that she is not having an abortion should be reason enough for the Christian conservatives to continue to support Palin.
You Liberala are the very reason Obama needs to lose this election. you are not doing him any favors by being this way. Your lack if integrity and respect will cost Obama this election.
Posted by: RealDemocrat | September 1, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Come on everyone. Do you really think this doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter about this family because everyone knows someone that has experienced this very thing, but, this is about being an example to our young and it really does matter. We all feel badly that this young girl has to experience this through the eyes of the public, however her mother has put in the stage for the American people to judge.
Posted by: Davido | September 1, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Palin = PHONY
At least Romneys family walked the walk when it came to “family values”
Posted by: Romney was better | September 1, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Everybody-STOP ATTACKING THE GIRL. She’s pregnant, that’s true, but everyone just needs to stop jumping on her. She’s going to have a hard enough time as it is.
Oh, and btw, I’m a Democrat.
Posted by: Maria | September 1, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
I don’t think that having a pregnant teenage daughter makes Palin a bad mother. However, I do think that, if indeed this was known prior to the Friday announcement, the VP offer should have been declined or never offered in the first place. It makes a private matter public to the entire world and takes a mother away from her child at a time when she is most needed.
carly in nj–do you vote based on issues or gender? I assume its the latter based on your post. A TRUE Clinton supporter admires not only her strength and abilities but her stance on important issues. Sarah Palin is to Hillary Clinton what Clarence Thomas is to Thurgood Marshall.
Posted by: MrsJones | September 1, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Bottom line– McCain DID NOT VET PALIN
He is irresponsible and has POOR JUDGEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BAD DECISION
Posted by: clarity | September 1, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
This is to all those Obama supporters who are critisizing Gov. Palin because her daughter is pregnant and saying that there must be problems in her family and saying that if Gov. Palin can’t control her family how can she be a good vice president. There are also some of you who are questioning Gov. Palin’s Christianity and family values because of this and saying not MY child! I control MY children! I want to ask you do you know everything that they do? No you don’t because you don’t know what they do when they are out of your sight. There is not a teenager alive that tells their parents everything that they do. The truth is that you would be horrified if you knew everything that children do! If you don’t know everything that your children do and you don’t control their every move, you have no right to throw stones or critisize Gov. Palin. It is not her fault that her daughter is pregnant and this should not be held against her.
Posted by: carlyonsue | September 1, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Why are people taking about liberals (I’m middle of the road with some conservatism) putting out these stories and rumors about Sarah Palins daughter? But all I have been seeing for the longest are a lot of rumors and false information and paranoia about Obama on numerous conservative websites. Please answer why is it ok for conservatives to do this but when liberal bring something up its not? Can someone please answer? If I don’t get an answer I suspect I know why.
Posted by: Athena | September 1, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
The real story.
Palin wants Alaska to secede from the United States and become a sovereign nation, as a member of the Alaska Independence Party.
Video about how Alaska has oil reserves bigger than all of the Middle East, NOT in ANWR but right there in Prudhoe Bay. Still want her in charge of the US so she can help Alaska secede and make sure none of that oil belongs to us?
Lastly, Great photo: share it again in case you missed it. She’s such a class act, such a lady. Don’t like her viewpoints?
We’re not a free country anymore. We’re being sold to the oil industry. Again.
Posted by: Peace | September 1, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
RealDemocrat… just pointing out that people in glass houses should not throw stones. Don’t try to force your morality on me if you can’t influence your own child.
Anyone that can’t see that for yourself, then please send your donation to McCain to help him win, also change your party affiliation to republican. If McCain wins America loses.
Posted by: Old Squeakers | September 1, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Oh my gosh! This is crazy! We have a 17 year old who was taught abstinence in the home — and now she has an out-of wedlock baby. And McCain had an affair with a younger, richer woman who he married — and she now wants to be our First Lady? Puh-leeze.
Family Values are defined by the Obama’s marriage, their enduring love for eachother and their hard wrok (and their ONE family home) — and by Joe Biden’s daily commute to tuck his sons in at night. Famiyl values are in the democratic corner this time. No amount of pretending will change what everyone can plainly see. The straight-talk express expressly points to the Bidens and Obamas as the families with values.
Posted by: John | September 1, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Pregnant 17 year old? I agree with the words of Jackie Kennedy “if you bungle raising your children, I don’t think whatever else you do well matters very much.”
Posted by: RonFrobnitz | September 1, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
RealDemocrat–
So you won’t vote for Obama because some of his supporters–not his campaign members–are ‘attacking’ Bristol Palin? Makes sense, after all those supporters will be appointing Supreme Court Justices and setting U.S. policies…
Posted by: MrsJones | September 1, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
I heard on Fox news that Sarah Palin only got a passport in 2007, does this mean she has never travelled out of America since she was born? This is unbelievable. How will this woman deal with Putin or Amadenejid..God help you America, mccain seriously does not have America’s interest in mind, its all about him….don’t forget he is 72 and has already lived his life so he has nothing to loss…BUT unfortunately America you do!
Posted by: Votecommonsense | September 1, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
How refreshing-a real person running for VP. Having chilren and grandchildren of my own I know justwhere she is. Jeramiah 29:11 I know the plans I have for you,says the Lord.
Posted by: Sherry | September 1, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen and cook your moose somewhere else.
We are not attacking the kid who was born into a bazaar right-wing family, we are attacking the the clueless, hypocritical, moralist mother who is as corrupt at all repubes are and lacks the experience and good judgment to run a town as small as the one in Northern Exposure. And no, Idaho State journalism grad and a havard law review lawyer is the senator of a state that actually has people in it, do not equate. She wanted to be an ESPN anchor—hence the name Bristol.
Posted by: Patrick in the Red Neck Zone | September 1, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Let’s keep the Palin teen in our prayers and not condemn her just because right-wing conservatives like Rush Limbaugh condemn others who have been in this predicament. I truly believe that if the devil works hard enough at being the devil, he’ll get just what he deserves.
Posted by: NCviewer | September 1, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Dobsons statement on the “NEWS” of Palins daughter left out one important thing
His endorsement….
Posted by: Christ has risen Mccain won't | September 1, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
My only problem with the ultra conservative views on things is that, the world is not pleasantville. Everything isn’t ultra perfect and americans have family values. Some people are not so rigide in their views of values because Lord knows no one can live up to such standards. Young people are having sex and getting pregnant. Some choose to give birth, some choose not to, and this is nothing new. My grandmother and great-grandmother have told me stories of girls getting pregnant in their day and coming up with all sorts of ways to abort babies in their day. Some of the women died, so this is nothing new and back then just about everyone was ultra conservative. There have been gay people every since the world has been, so why try to make such a big deal out of it. Either you are or you’re not so just leave it alone. Stop telling everyone what their values should be and condeming them because they don’t fit into some bubble they evangelicals say is right. Only God is perfect and only he or she can judge us as unfit or not. No man born on this earth is God and No evangelical has been hand picked by God to dictate to us. God is for all who seek him and he knows we are not perfect.
Posted by: Jack | September 1, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Coming not from the US but following your elections closely I would like to give my opinion that will get lost amongst all others.
Fairley I must say that I am strongly leaning democratic as McCain just does not look like a real option.
(but I come from a country that has general healthcare are for everyone, where state provides you with an income if you lose your job or a house I you can’t afford one, free public schools, job protection and alternative income during illness, where mothers get Paid absence to raise their children etc .)
The downside of this is that economy never has an exponential growth and it is more difficult to start a business and become a millionaire in a year.
The upside is that no one needs to go hungry, sleep on the streets. We have no guns or gun fights. We have little or none beggars on the streets.
It is a choice every country has to make.
By the way, is it not hypocrite to forbid abortion but allow guns?
Life is sacred?
But about this specifically…
I never understood why everyone wants to make abortion into laws.
It is a very personal thing and where you come from or what your religion, your economical, or personal situation is, it will define how you will react to it.
No one should be forced into an abortion but no one should say that you cannot have one.
I my country we have the freedom to chose but you cannot have it in one day, you have several sessions with councilors that assist in this always difficult decision.
For any mother this will always be a trauma, so assist them, help them, support them as Sarah is doing now.
They have made a decision inside of their family according to their believes. I wish them all the luck and joy from their grandchild.
Let others make their decision to their believes as well. (Sorry I will never undersign any religious grounds for banning abortion).
I will raise the gun issue again .
If you are really pro life then you must be anti guns (any statistic about children killed with guns)
If you are pro life ( what about millions of lives that can be saved by studying stamcells, including that of living, breathing ,talking children)
If you do not agree in sacrificing unborn life for the wellbeing of all, then you cannot support sending troops (born life) into war.
But as I say,
You have your opinion,
Keep it, defend it but do not force it onto others.
Have a wonderful day and a good election.
I enjoy the spectacle :-)
Posted by: Kris Belgium | September 1, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Seriously. It is so incredibly easy to judge other people. Childrem make mistakes. It’s part of life. You can be the best parents in the world for your children, yet they will still undoubtedly make poor choices without giving any forethought to the possible consequences. Did your parents know everything that you were doing, every waking moment hour when you were 17? What about this boyfriend? No one has mentioned him. He very well could have been a smooth talker, irristable kind of guy with narcisstistic behavior (to a 17 yr girl anyway)and who’s to say that she didn’t “already try” to convince him of her mother’s values/position. Young girls face a cruel world now days and with her parents being as active in their careers- all the more reason why this 17 yr old was needing the love and affection she didn’t receive at home. I aaplaud the Palin family was stepping up to the plate and being there for their daughter, not to mention supporting her decision to marry this young man.Times have changed, however 30 years ago it wasn’t out of the ordinary for people to marry this young. Again, I commend the father for sticking around to help this young girl and raise this child. He could have easily went on with his life, go on to college get married and have the ideal life and leave this girl in the dust.
I would know because I “am” that 17 yr old single parent who’s boyfriend’s parents forbid us to marry stating it wouldn’t work and that we were too young. My daughter’s fahter’s parents actually tried to buy my parents out-stating that I should have put my daughter up for adoption and they would in fact PAY for all the medical expenses. Thankfully, God gave me enough brains and I raised this child successfully with limited help from her father.
Kudos to Levi!
Parents do not always know what’s best for their children. It is often the CHILDREN that essentially teach their parents the hard lessons in life.
Kudos to the Palin family for supporting and loving their daughter unconditionally!
Posted by: moo | September 1, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Isn’t it ironic that McCain would accuse Obama of lacking judgment when McCain’s VP Palin is forcing her daughter to marry prematurely? The girl already has made one bad choice. Why force her into another? This is pure political exploitation! Poor kid!
Posted by: NCViewer | September 1, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Very good MARIA 3:55:15….You heard your candidate. He said to lay off the kid!
Posted by: irma | September 1, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Yeah….christian conservatives are going to hold this woman up for putting her “career” ahead of better parenting? I don’t think so.
Values used to be that when a teen got pregnant it was shameful. Well McCain is fixin to find out that there are people who don’t think this woman represents family values.
Posted by: Republican in Alabama | September 1, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Why doesn’t the Palin family use the term ‘father’?
Posted by: BadBuoy | September 1, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Absentee moms see what happens…
Posted by: Disgraceful | September 1, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Hey carly in NJ,
Just a question,
Is there anything that would convince you to vote otherwise?
Posted by: Kris Belgium | September 1, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
We now the clear picture: The Palins could benefit from having better family values… Or at least some effective pregnancy prevention teachings, besides abstinence. Sometimes a young family requires attention from the mother(and father)… She should take better care of her own family before she tries to impose creationism, pro-life, pro-gun, pro-death and other radical values to society… Not even mentioning the use of the Alaskan state in her sister’s divorce…
Posted by: MacCane | September 1, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Democrats shouldn’t loose this opportunity.
The Republicans are running so fast to the Left, like Lemmings to he sea, on this issue that you might be able to get them to start waving CONDOMS!!!
Posted by: BadBuoy | September 1, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Is there not an aviation law that says that you have to have a paper that you ar fit to fly delivered by the doctor from of 6 months of pregnancy.
I can not believe they let anyone knowingly take a flight when the water broke…
I also call that irresponsible or breaking a safety law at the least
Posted by: Kris Belgium | September 1, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
This is not about the 17 year old child who is now pregnant, this is about the 46 years old absentee mother who does not take care of her own family. Rather than persuing this crazy power hungry race, she should care for her own family…
Posted by: MacCane | September 1, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
The best part of this is most of you geniuses can’t spell. Both parties…come on. Scellatons, Liers, absinnence…? what are we 3? Get over it.
Posted by: Lincoln | September 1, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Nice try Irma, but you twist his words.
He told the press to ‘lay off’.
No candidate better presume to tell me what I, as a citizen, may or may not discuss about any candidate, let alone those for the highest office. And I will determine what is relevent and what is not!
Posted by: irma | Sep 1, 2008 4:17:42 PM
Very good MARIA 3:55:15….You heard your candidate. He said to lay off the kid!
Posted by: BadBuoy | September 1, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Seems like the McCain campaign is now entering full meltdown phase.
Posted by: Tom in California | September 1, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Well, that was the risk taken with the “unknown”. It is now getting known… From using the Alaskan government to revenge her sister’s divorce, from links to corrupt-indicted Senator Steven’s 527 PAC and now the abandonment of her own family issues to persue her political ambitions… No wonder the major Alaskan papers have already questioned her fitness for VP…
Posted by: MacCane | September 1, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
To Officially Over,
“Real Christians” (as you call them) will not be dissuaded from voting for Palin because of her daughter becoming pregnant out of wedlock.
“Real Christians” follow this Tenet:
“He Who Is Without Sin, Cast The First Stone.”
Those who are spewing vicious attacks over this are using a personal family situation for political purposes and that is despicable.
Sarah Palin is not a hypocrite because she did NOT go around attacking young women for becoming pregnant outside of marriage. What Palin promoted was a choice (abstinence) that could prevent the heartache that might go along with the decision to have pre-marital sex.
In this case, I am sure Bristol’s baby will be welcomed into the world and surrounded with loving parents and grandparents.
Some of the other comments on this website suggested that we all just try to focus on the BLESSING of this baby.
Rather then spewing negativity and hateful vicious comments about this young woman and her innocent unborn child; the truly “Christian” thing to do is – to put down the stones!!!
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Palin cannot say “Family First”. She is a neglectful mother.
She cannot say “Abstinence” because those words rang hypocritically untrue to the most important persons in her life – her children.
What kind of mother is Palin? One, obviously, who put her children last.
Once you have four or more children, if you want to be a good mother, you run out of time for career and other activities. All your time has to be devoted to your children. Otherwise, some of those children are going to be neglected.
So this is what happened with her children. Sad.
For conservatives who talk about Family Values, Palins actions must appall them.
Posted by: James Katt | September 1, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Face it republicans, McCains a fool, and a POW can’t forget that, and your v.p is a liar.
America first, and being truthful, well it takes a few days to get around to that.
Posted by: Ouch | September 1, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
oeps cincyr,
Sorry, my mistake.
Besides all the personal issues this lady has
We are not used to look so much into the personal life of our officials).
I just don’t see her as a president of any country (not even mine and that is a sometimes a big joke as well :-).
It really surprised me that so many people are cheering for her. I understand they did for Hillary but Sarah looks so much like a cartoon…
It looks like tey are making a big joke out of this election
Posted by: Kris Belgium | September 1, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
shirley welcome to reality tv –the presidential race
Posted by: cisc | September 1, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Congrats in Buffalo–are you serious? You can’t possibly think teenagers, who put little thought into anything, should become parents. How will they support the child–on the minimum wage jobs they are qualified for? How will they provide the emotional support a child needs when they are still developing emotionally, themselves? Waiting until you’re able to take care of yourself and a child before having one is logical. Your ideas are nonsense.
Posted by: MrsJones | September 1, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Teenage pregnancy DOES happen, as many of you have reminded us. Having a child out of wedlock is not the be-all-end-all determinant of morality, and neither is being the mother of an unwed mother. Honestly, I am not nearly so worried about the idea of Governor Palin’s daughter being pregnant as I am about the cruelty of subjecting her daughter to this media circus at a time in her life when she needs SUPPORT.
Likewise, as a young wife with a progressive illness, I cannot imagine a caring mother leaving her severely disabled child for work when the child is only three days old, or running for the vice presidency when that child is only a year old. I am a supporter of working mothers, but there is a big difference between returning to work and being vice president. The latter will not allow Governor Palin to fulfill her responsibilities as a mother to a special needs child and a child who is going through what is probably the hardest time in her life.
I do not know what the particulars are of Ms. Palin’s impending marriage are, but if she and her child’s father are marrying simply for the sake of the child, they are simply asking for even more trouble. Marrying simply because of an unplanned pregnancy is ridiculous — bringing a child up in a loveless marriage is often crueler than simply remaining amicable but unmarried. All fathers who consent to sex should be involved in any resulting child’s life and should take adequate responsibility for the needs of that child, but entering into a forced or simply “practical” marriage is unfair to themselves, their partners, and their child. I truly hope they are marrying for love, and not just because Ms. Palin is having a baby.
I hope that everyone will select their chosen candidate based on the issues at stake and their qualifications for their prospective positions, not their personal lives. I do believe, though, that these issues add further credence to the idea that Governor Palin is inadequately equipped to be vice president. Someone will suffer if she is, be it her children or the people she is supposed to be serving.
Posted by: Informed Voter | September 1, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
So much hate and derision from the left and the Liberals. I understand most of them are operatives of Hussien Obama, posting here on a holiday. While the Chief denies any involvement, he will leave it to his hirelings.
Get this straight, Palin is here to stay and its Palin all the way.
McCain/Palin 08
Obama Who?
Posted by: vic | September 1, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
hi Vic,
You are right,
now go to bed ;-)
Posted by: Kris Belgium | September 1, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Despite Mr. Dobson’s (from Focus on the Family) public prayers, the DNC had no storm during Mr. Obama’s speach. Now the Republican convention is getting a few storms of their own: Hurricane Gustav, pregnancy of Bristol Palin and the “Troopergate”… I guess the only good thing for them was the excuse for Bush and Cheney not to show up in the RNC convention tonight… GOD works thru mysterious ways… But, this far, the Republicans are with Satan.
Posted by: MacCane | September 1, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Hi carly in NJ,
You would have been voting like that anyway.
I have found a site with proof that the world is actually flat..
I would go for mainstream journalisme to get the facts.
There are enough of both sides to blow a story like that up. This looks a bit pale.
enjoy
Posted by: Kris Belgium | September 1, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Well at least the Vice Presidential residence is the Naval Observatory and not the White House. Maybe most won’t notice the new RV pad being poured so the young couple can have a place of their own.
Just so it doesn’t distract Palin in her transition from administering a government awash in billions of oil taxes and with little infrastructure upon which to spend it, what with most cities and villages rarely having roads out 5 miles [I think Juneau's furthest went for 20 when I lived up there].
And what of a governor who chooses to slaughter magnificent animals [esp. bear and elk]. Does anyone believe she needs the meat and hides to sustain her family?
Not to mention her abuse of power in using her office to get her sister’s ex, a state patrolman, fired.
And poor Ketchikan [one of Alaska's largest cities]. She had joined them in their quest for a bridge over to their airport [expensive because it had to be tall enough to clear the cruise ships] to gain their support for the governorship. Now she abandons them. A VERY citical flip-flop to that district.
This is the mother[?] who would be President?
Tell White House staff not to be too fast in packing away all the hoe-down supplies and fiddles.
Posted by: BadBuoy | September 1, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
This is still pretty fishy and even if the wingnuts are going to say that this announcement by Palin debunks the false pregnancy story, bloggers have at the very least forced the holy rolling conservative VP nominee to admit that her daughter got knocked up.
The hypocrisy here, though, is so thick you need a chainsaw to cut through it. Palin used Trig as a prop to demonstrate her Christian Right bonafides while telling a story about how he came into the world that just about any medical professional, including my pediatric nurse mom unbelievable. Palin’s doctor is now even backing off some of her ealier statements about approving that plane trip from Dallas to Alaska when words such as “malpractice” and “negligence” began to be aimed her way.
And had it been,say, Chelsea Clinton that got pregnant while still a teen, Limbaugh and that whole gaggle of reactionary zealots would have used it as emblematic of what they would call leftwimg depravity, and Dobson would be hurling epithets such as “fornicator” at Chelsea rather than the compassionate cant he burbled vis a vis Bristol.
Obviously, the abstinence education Bristol got in her own home did not work, just as studies have indicated that it is not effective.
Bristol has been put into a no win position by her mother’s political ambitions. I hope the best for her, since she is a completely innnocent party here, but I don’t think this story ends here. This Palin announcement is a stall tactic and if McCain is elected, there is going to be a fact changing annouuncement by the White HOuse Press Secretary while Palin goes on holiday. You heard it here first.
Posted by: Rob | September 1, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Reasonable people who read this sick stuff are NOT impressed. It just underscores how totally twisted many Obama Supporters are and that means we will work harder and donate MORE money to elect McCain/Palin. We need to save our great democracy!!!
McCain/Palin08
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
I read that democrats are just trying to find things to pick apart Palin with and that the pregnancy of her daughter shouldn’t be an issue, if that were true then Clinton wouldn’t have been impeached.
It is a big deal, especially since Palin is an advocate for teaching only abstinence. It is both ignorant and irresponsible to teach only abstinence, to think that you would be promoting sexual activity by educating your children on proper contraception is so incredibly naive; kids have NEVER emulated their parents and they WILL falter to peer pressure, the idea behind good parenting is that you instill as many of your morals and values as you can while still making sure that they know what the alternatives are should they deviate, and they will, it is all part of growing up.
Posted by: RY in PT | September 1, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Number 1-To give life is a Gift,if not we would not be reading or commenting on all of the wrong issue’s.This is about our country and the mess that our children and their children etc.will have to deal with.I don’t care if you are a dem.,independant,or a rep.we are in this together.We don’t have to believe in the same things,but we do need to get along as best as we can.We only have ONE LIFE,and we all will be held accountable for the way we live it.Number 2-Watch what we say!I’m living proof what goes around,does come back around.Number 3-LIVE and LET LIVE!!!Thank You for your time.PEACE
Posted by: Tina32 | September 1, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
A McCain aide was quoted as saying “Leave the kids alone.” I’ll make them a deal. I’ll leave your kids alone and you leave MY kids alone. Don’t push your agenda that would stop my daughter from having an abortion if she is raped. Don’t push your abstinence only agenda that stops kids in school from getting the facts and sex and birth control. They should be getting that information at home but not all of them do. Deal?
Posted by: marie | September 1, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
to carly in NJ,
I don’t believe you.
DO you really see Palin as president??
Seriously?
Really ??
Are you sure ?
Really ?
( me I am more than an independent, I can not even vote but are you sure ???)
I don’t understand that,
then you can just taken anyone from the street and put him or her in the white house
Posted by: Kris Belgium | September 1, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Let’s be clear about one thing. In this day of media and blogger scrutiny any negative issues about a candidate and their family are disclosed. The is an act of self defense – stop the rumors and whispers by being honest (straight talk) to the public.
Points
1. If McCain knew about Bristol’s pregnancy – why didn’t he disclose it?
2. If mamma Sarah knew when did she know?
3. Why was pregnancy hastily announced after rumors about Bristol being Trig’s mom surfaced?
4. Where are pictures of proud mom (Sarah) during her pregnancy?
5. Sarah Palin was told she carried a child with down syndrome. Where was the press on this? What a great day for anti-abortion publicity – public figure to carry down syndrome baby to term.
5. Where was Sarah Palin when she went into labor? Was it Texas?
6. Would a women take an eight hour flight while in labor? After giving a keynote address. (where are those pictures of a very pregnant Sarah?)
Posted by: jack bender | September 1, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
“Don’t push your abstinence only agenda that stops kids in school from getting the facts and sex and birth control.”
Now don’t start – I meant to say “facts ABOUT sex”..
Posted by: marie | September 1, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
To Jack Bender:
Who Cares, REALLY WHO CARES!!!
We have REAL issues to concern ourselves with…like the economy, war in Iraq, global warming, curing cancer, price of gasoline, people’s ability to buy a home, the folks who are suffering because of Gustav.
I thought Obama directed his supporters to focus on the folks needing help because of the Hurricane. Listen to him, that would be a better use of your time.
McCain because he is truly a compassionate man is focused on helping others, the victims of Hurricane Gustav.
Perhaps you should take a lesson from the people you so willing attack.
At least, right now, Senator Obama has the sense to do so!!!
McCain/Palin08
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
I would hate to be a Republican right now – having no viable chance at the White House. It actually seems cruel to pick on Palin considering that the Democrats have always been the favorites to win in November simply due to Bush. Might as well let them spin it out, and not until November crush their hopes of success. As if Palin could really make things worse for their campaign.
Posted by: Max | September 1, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
There are plenty of working moms out there that have daughters that DON’T get pregnant, so blaming the parents is just plain stupidity. It is NOT a Republican or a Democratic issue, it is a family issue.
Posted by: Denise | September 1, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
I think the Obama camp have reason to worry about McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin, she is electrifying the base and she is getting a lot of attention from the media, whether its good or bad she is getting attention, and McCain just might win this election.
Posted by: Kathy | September 1, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
kris belgium—thank for taking interest in our country election. i appreciaate what you said– being pro-life and supporting gun ownership are not hypocritical. .i would say the same resaoning then if u are antigun because innocent children die from gunshots. then all the people in the world that are antigun for that reason should stop driving cars– 40,000 people die each year in car accidents in the usa alone. in the iraq war 4000 americans died yet in the same time period 300,000 people have died in car accidents. where is code pink and the rest of the antigun liberals. what you need my dear friend is perspective you have been brainwashed by socialism. car are the real killer not guns. in africa people are slaughtered by machetee and knives. this brainwashing is trying to make this coutry similar but there are many in this country that are real americans like the ones that kicked the nazis out of europe. and removed saddam huesein army out of kuwait. we dont like tyrants especially in are own country. sarah pallin will finish the job. she is a warrior queen
Posted by: cisc | September 1, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
It is hard to believe the car/gun logic is still used. Guns are made to kill, automatic weapons are made ONLY to kill people – quickly. It is thus no surprise when they work. Likewise, alcohol is made to dull the senses, which makes it not surprising that cars combined with alcohol kill the most people. If people using the car/gun metaphor are voting for McCain/Palin, it should make you think twice.
Posted by: Max | September 1, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
To Kris Belgium:
McCain and Palin and are WAY more qualified then Obama. That is my opinion. I have a right to my opinion and a right to VOTE the way I SEE FIT.
You may disagree with me, I am sure people can disagree in your Country. From what I can understand from your posts, you are not from the US. I am glad you are interested in the U.S. Presidential Election.
I believe that essential democratic principles were violated by the Democrat Party in the Caucus Primaries. If we are to preserve our democracy we must speak out when Voter Fraud is used to win an election. President Lincoln said, “To remain silent when one should protest makes cowards of men [and women].”
I AM speaking out. My party, the Democrat Party is now corrupted by the process used to nominate Obama as the Candidate for POTUS. The Means does not justify the Ends.
I believe this corruption can not be rewarded. I also believe that McCain is the better choice for many reasons. I do not make this choice without a great deal of deliberation.
As I stated in an earlier post, I have never chosen to vote for a Republican candidate for POTUS until NOW!!
McCain stood up to George W. Bush on many issues when Democrats would not. McCain is not liked by the NeoCons in the Republican Party and McCain called for Rumsfeld’s (former Secretary of Defense) resignation when no one else would.
We need more courageous people in government like McCain and Palin. I do not agree with them on everything. However, there are enough issues that I do agree on that make this choice a viable one for me.
The “fear and smear” tactics employed by the Obama Campaign will not work with me and they will not work with millions of American voters.
Most importantly, we do not need more elected officials like Obama/Biden who represent the “old boy” corrupt Democrat Party machine. The DNC could have abided by its own rules and selected Hillary Clinton as the Nominee. Unfortunately, it is too late for that. Obama/Biden will loose in November.
I will proudly cast my vote (as is my right) for McCain/Palin.
Women Defending Democracy
Country Before Party and McCain/Palin08
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
calguy55== lincoln was right but im sure if he had known how education could turn into liberal socialist reeducation instead of a totalview education im sure he would have qualified his statement–nice try. liberals have made a concerted effort to push thier agenda from school age to public broadcasting to the ivy league. want proof if you want to work in hollywood you have to show your liberal stripes. more proof the media is so lopsided to the left that a dying industry— radio has been revitalized. rush limbaugh 400 million dollar contract is proof undeniable proof of this. howw much does katie couric make? mcchange real change not more of the same.how about the genuis idea of using corn to make feul now look what the intelligencia of the libs has produced 30% increase in food and the poor all around the world starving while the liberal is watching his carbon footprint and he feels so good about it. but the problem my dear liberals you have been used by your intelligent leaders and the lobbyists for big corn. not to mention the waste of water in water stressed areas. wakeup you are a pawn
Posted by: cisc | September 1, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
carly in NJ: “McCain called for Rumsfeld’s (former Secretary of Defense) resignation when no one else would.”
He did not. He eventually criticized Rumsfeld after declaring “mission accomplished,” but he never called for Rumsfeld’s resignation.
Posted by: Brendan M. | September 1, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Just shows that Sarah faces all the same hills and mountains Dems do with their kids. Kudos to Sarah for standing with her daughter and giving her the love and support she needs. And kudos to her daughter for exercising her choice to have her baby, and to her parents for not thinking that she is being punished with a baby and forcing her to make another choice. Great human story – one that all Americans should understand!
Posted by: Beckie | September 1, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
This situation is ironic because it demonstrates the consequences of the abstinence-only “education” (really, non-education) which Palin advocates. It also demonstrates the “do as I say, not as I do” attitude of the Republican party (witness Bush’s record of driving drunk and dodging military service). In short, it’s perfect. Obama is not a great choice for President, but I will vote for him because (a) another Republican administration would be disastrous and (b) we need an opportunity to clean Bush’s foxes out of Washington’s many henhouses — and McCain, despite his talk of being a maverick — would not do it.
Posted by: Independent | September 1, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Brendan M:
We will just have to disagree on this issue, I remember the circumstances very well because I considered Rumsfeld a total disaster as Secretary of Defense.
When McCain criticized Rumsfeld and also called for his resignation, he was attacked. McCain stood up to Rumsfeld and George W. Bush.
At the time, I was very happy to see SOMEONE stand up to Rumsfeld. and McCain did so!!
When McCain becomes POTUS, I am sure he will consider appointing Collin Powell as Secretary of Defense. Powell is another patriot who stood up to George W. Bush.
Women Defending Democracy
Country Over Party
McCain/Palin08
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Gov. Sarah Palin is a courageous woman who will be the next Vice-President of the United States.
All the vicious smear attacks made by Obama supporters will not change that fact. This story is about a family dealing with personal issues and does NOT belong in the political domain.
All it shows about those who want to use this as a club to attack Palin is just how low the Obama Campaign will go to score political points.
Women Defending Democracy
Country Before Party
McCain/Palin08
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
“I don’t understand that,
then you can just taken anyone from the street and put him or her in the white house”
Have you ever seen the movie “Dave” with Kevin Kline? Check it out.
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 1, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Palin should have turn down the nomination because the photo with her wearing a flag bikini show her future son in law smoking a cig, and drinking beer. What a good mother LOL….
Posted by: Brock101 | September 1, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Ok for all those who keep talking about the sex education. Take a look around at all the unwed girls in this country. You can talk sex education until you are blue in the face and there will always be an unwed teenager, get over it already.
For those who are saying Palin is a bad mother and she should not be working because she has 5 children, let me tell you a little story. My grandmother had 11 children and worked everyday until she turned 76. Oh, she had to quit then because the place she worked went out of business, or she would still be working today. So get over it. One more thing, My aunts and uncles turned out just fine.
Posted by: DS from KY | September 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
This is a joke. 17 yr old daughter pregnant plus a scandal in the Governors office. What was he thinking. you can try to sugarcoat this if you want, but this is scary. Gov Palin could be the next president. She would be good as Mc Cains secretary that’s about it. not VP Republicans spin that’s all your going to get. they are embarrest I would be too. Thank God Obama going to win.
Posted by: kenneth | September 1, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
OK, now it is time to set things straight. Those who are critical of Senator McCain and Gov Palin fail to see the obvious. Both are running their campaign based on accomplishments, not promises and “Change because of Change.” Sr. Obama is a caring individual, but has accomplished NOTHING. He hasn’t lead anything. A trip overseas does not make one an expert on Foreign policy. His remarks at how efficient China’s infrastructure should scare every American to death. How can you be pro American and turn a blind eye to China’s lack of environmental concern, child labor and poor living conditions for it’s people? And wasn’t it President Kennedy who said “Ask not what this country can do for you, ask what you can do for this country?” Something Sr. Kennedy seams to have forgotten. And if you have issues with the way this government is running the war in Iraq, why would you want it to run everything else especially health care?
Posted by: Steve | September 1, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Personally, I don’t really see why this is an issue, so the kid got pregnant, is that really particularly out of the ordinary in this day and age? And who in this forum can actually say that they never did things that thier parents did not approve of?
A parent can not entirely control thier child, they may wish it was so, but to do that would be to inhibit thier liberty to such an extent that eventually when they come out from under the wing, they will be very hard pressed to get along in society.
A parent must do what they can to teach thier values to thier kids, but it is the childs CHOICE to follow or not, and this response by the child is not dictated by the skill exhibited in the parenting. It is a choice that comes out of that childs exercise of personal liberty.
I am not saying that I think Palin would be a great VP, I haven’t had time to look at her enough to make that decision yet, I am only stating that this should not figure into that process. Lets look at her professional record and personal character to choose a candidate, and lets not be distracted by those issues that do not pertain to her ability to hold the office of VP.
Posted by: Matt from WA | September 2, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
And, if Gov. Palin is pregnant, so what? Why does she allow a rumor/scandal like this to be released to the media when she can tell the truth, even before she gets into the White House? Is this practice lying? I would not vote Republican even if I was a member of the Republican Party with goofy stuff like this going on – pretty embarassing!
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
McCain call her the most qualified person in the country to be vice president? This in an insult not just to every woman, but every Republican int the United States.
Posted by: GWB in PA | September 2, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am
People are being themselves, and logic, to try to defend this choice! The bedrock of the Republican philosophy has been abstinence! Once again, the Democrats are right… it is not the best sex education. A condom, readily avoided all this. This selection is a slap in the face of every man and woman who has worked hard and seen opportunity given to someone much less capable. If you can’t be honest with us people, please, be honest with yourselves.
Posted by: Darren7160 | September 2, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
Please, let us take care of keeping our own homes clean before we dare ask others to keep theirs spotless.
As a working young woman, as a mother of a four-year old daughter, I’ve finally had it with all the holier-than-thou crap and will vote accordingly.
Go PUMAS!
Posted by: Grangatita | September 2, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Sarah Palin seems to be out of touch with her children. She may be too busy to be a true parent. Perhaps she should not run for Vice President, she has two other daughters that could end up in the same situation if they are neglected for the presidency.
Posted by: Kate in AZ | September 2, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Sarah Palin seems to be out of touch with her children. She may be too busy to be a true parent. Perhaps she should not run for Vice President, she has two other daughters that could end up in the same situation if they are neglected for the presidency.
Posted by: Kate in AZ | September 2, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
To cisc,
I do take interest in the wellbeing of your country but you might call it self-interest.
We live on the same earth, the same air etc.
Bush is not really liked by anyone outside the US as well. He has almost no political leverage any more . Mc Cain is portrayed and experienced as a war maker already now. Threatening Russia with the Georgia incident. This should have been handled differently. China is the same..
They are emerging world powers and risk to become bigger over the next 10 years. It is not that he is not right on the issues, that can be discussed but a good friendship and good alliances will be crucial over the next years to handle the fundamental threat for us all.
He does not show many skills of diplomacy. He would put America back into isolation. We are all western partners but you will need our enthusiasm to go along with some difficult problems that face our safety.
Obama has shown that people outside America like him a lot and he is seen as a wise leader, independent and opposed to Bush. It seems you do not like that when I see the reactions but I don’t understand why.
You have to make as a nation some decisions that impact life, some made by the heart some by the brain.
It does not really matter if Sarah’s daughter is pregnant or not. I might be good to learn some lessons from that and try to limit unwanted pregnancies in the future. They happen everywhere but good sexual education and stressing the use of condoms might help.
I do find you handle a double standard on guns, war and abortion. It seems hypocrite but I understand. I smoke and will defend my addiction to others against my own better judgment.
About Sarah,
I must ask again, look in your hart or brain or soul and you don’t have to answer me.
Can you see her as the president??
I can name several republicans and Democrats that I find are more qualified. I am sure that If you ask her the question if she would be a good president, she would hesitate.
You can welcome her but can you take this ticket seriously?
I hope Obama wins, he will bring the nations together as he has already proven to do with France and Germany. His charisma will make the US more popular in the Middle East and take away the hate that is now facing the US. It will give you more support in these countries so that they can handle the fundamentalism on their turf.
Sure that your nr 1 enemy hopes MC wins
Posted by: Kris Belgium | September 2, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I have read numerous blogs about the Palin Baby Gate issue…Why is it so hard to get to the bottom of this story?Someone has to know the truth about baby Trig and who his mother REALLY is.It just seems VERY strange, especially after reading that Palin got on a long flight home after leaking fluid. As a mom, I know that the last place I would have been was on a long flight, the hospital was first on my list. It really isn’t about the daughter getting pregnant at 17, it’s about lies and cover up. Can someone just get to the TRUTH?
Posted by: Katrina in GA | September 4, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
The right wing forced McCain to pick an ultra conservative so he folds and does it. They will be controlling his decisions and presidency on all issues including supreme justices. Real leadership McCain, sounds like a puppet. Also you have no right to be critical of Democrats who comment on Palin pregnant daughter. All you guys are so pious and all you do is claim how immoral we are for teaching birth control. Right wing evangelical teenagers are doing the same thing most older teens do except they are being taught abstinence so they have no education and hence have a higher chance of getting into a Bristol situation. Their heads are in the sand. Don’t criticize us because we have common sense and are smart.
Posted by: SN | September 5, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
I have voted Republican for 30 yrs. , but I see the McCain pick of Palin as a desperation move. He needs women voters.I will Not be voting for a Republican this year! Also, I think McCain’s domestic policy is Pal-in comparison to Obama’s.McCain doesn’t have one and Palin can’t decide which one.She failed her daughter already,I don’t want to be next!
Posted by: Dave | September 14, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Sarah Palin is the best things since sliced bread! McCain and Palin are going to win this election. Stop the witch hunt!
Posted by: John | September 16, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am