Greenspan to Stephanopoulos: This is ‘By Far’ the Worst Economic Crisis He’s Seen in His Career

Yeah, notice there are no troll comments on this one. The truth hurts… republican economic policies putting us ALL in danger whether we voted for them or not. Please people, wake up!

Oh jenn, I can’t wait for the debates either. Unlike you, tho, I don’t hope McCain/Palin will show the other two for who they are. I know they will. Hey Obama needs your change. It’s his new campaign slogan.

Yeah, notice there are no troll comments on this one. The truth hurts… republican economic policies putting us ALL in danger whether we voted for them or not. Please people, wake up!

Wait a minute. Greenspan says this is the worst economic crisis he has ever seen, probably a once in a century event, but it might not be a recession??
Please explain.

This is why Democrats hold the lowest approval rating in history. Only in placed Republicans run the state such as Florida and Texas is the Economy booming. But in Democrat created cesspools such as Chicago Illinios the place Obama is in charge of is not only the murder capital of the world. Almost 2 out of 3 blacks are unemployed thanks to Obama and his PAY to PLAY politics with REZKO or the Media afraid to report that on Obama the scum bag

How bad does it have to get before they wake up?
The Republican base is the backwash at the bottom of the glass. They will support any RNC PIG no matter how immoral and deceitful they are.
The RNC policies have WRECKED our economy and yet they are running McCain who will give us 4 more years of the same failed economic policies.
Sarah Palin LIED about visiting the troops in Iraq, a spokesperson for the Republican vice presidential nominee confirmed Saturday.
If Obama did such a thing his campaign would be over.
Palin is an AIP supporter and her husband was an AIP member who would REMOVE A STAR FROM THE US FLAG.

The stock market took a plummet the moment it became clear, earlier in the year, that Barack Obama would likely win the Democratic primary. And common knowledge, at that time, was that the Dems were a shoe in for victory.

And we can thank Greenspan for it! He began the expansion in the first place. And left the recession for “Helicopter Ben” to manage throwing more credit out on the market. What happens when you have easy credit, defaults and predatory lending. The banks get bailed out while the debtors lose everything, nad the taxpayers get the bill. Thnks Greenie! Now take your tv wife, and GO AWAY!!! Your lucky you are not in jail. You just might want to leave the country. No worry, WE will still be stuck here paying for your sin.

George Will said, with a straight face, even, that he would have flunked the Bush Doctrine question. Hey George, your memory fading, or what???
The Bush Doctrine At Risk. By George F. Will Sunday, June 22, 2003; Page B07 Washington Post.
Even McCain surrogates will lie through their teeth and expect us all to believe them.

ok, just out of curiosit, why do you democrats on here think its the republicans fault for the economic crisis? please explain your thoughts instead of just jumping on the bandwagon..

An economic crisis after two Republican administrations? Sounds familiar. Let’s see. The Great Depression in 1929 started after two and into the third Republican administration. The recession of early 1990s started after two Reagan administrations and into the third republican administration. Now again. Some record these guys have. However, I would not be surprised if this country votes Republican again. Stubborn and stupid.

JA wrote:
The decline in the economy coincides with the Democrats taking control of Congress.
Boy are you dumb! The economy starting falling apart by the time the democrats got to congress and too late for them to do much. Besides, anything they can do has been filibustered by the elitist republcians.
this is the result of 30 years of failed republican policies and the failed trickle down theory that also caused the Great Depression in the 30s.

As a republincan I have to be honest. Plain interview was a disater. I just dont undestand why she was not better prepared. I am starting to belive that really says what ever!!! Take it from a hard core republincan Palin is not fit to me commander in chief. I was supposed to fell more confrtable with her after the interview instead I fet like she is just a an empy suit. Waht really bothers me is the honest factor. I dont think shes been honest. I am sorry I will put America first and that is by not voting for her.

ahhh, have you seen the majority of the bills the democrats have tried to get passed in the last two years?! all of you on the left, have been fooled yet again by your own. the majority of the bills on the big issues , have been completely outrageous, or had just one element in them that was outrageous, therefore not even given a chance to pass. and they did this on purpose!!! they did this for this exact reason. so it made the average “mindless” american believe it was the REUBPLICANS holding up progress. well, im not one of those mindless americans. i realize what they have done in order for your vote and its shameful. to hold up any major progress so they can get votes. its not going to work this time.

tim – “why do you democrats on here think its the republicans fault for the economic crisis? please explain your thoughts instead of just jumping on the bandwagon..”
One word: deregulation

There’s something I notice about NObama in every speech he delivers it is heavily covered by the media; “he’s close and yet so far.” He connects with the people for a few minutes like a good lecturer but once a person leaves the lecture room, they can’t remember a damn thing what the lecturer talked about. He also talks down on people, he puts a distance between him and his audience, like a professor to his students. NObama cannot relate to a common man but he expects you to believe whatever he says and you have no right to question him. He made him self into an icon, untouchable in so many ways. But the more people know about him, the less they like him; due to the fact NObama is speaking in another world, he uses a language foreign to a lot of people. It is English but the way he talks, makes you feel inferior, you’re beneath him. That is my summation of NObama.
NO WAY NO HOW NO VOTE NOBAMA
Women are the majority and we REJECT obama!! WE will protest the Undemocratic party this election and N.O.T. Nothing on top of the undemocratic ticket..empty. NOBAMA!!
I WILL VOTE McCAIN/PALIN.

Of course Barack Obama is better prepared than Palin. He has been living with these issues for years. He has an insatiable curiosity. And he is U.S. Senator. I have nothing against Palin, but she obviously does not know the issues or the world as well as Obama. And with Biden being the most knowledgable of the four, they make a pretty good team.

jock…
ok, this is my point. im a conservative, not a republican. that being said, i am just as disgusted with what the republicans have been as of late. and you’re right. thats PART of the problem. but you know what i hate? i hate people who come in here and blame everything on what party or the other. those who actually believe it has been the last 8 years alone that have brought on this crisis. its just not that simple. there are many factors that have brought this on from the changes that were made under the clinton administration that made predatory lending a ton easier, to alan greenspans work in the past decade or so. our government wastes SO MUCH money, the average american ha no clue. and it simply cant be blamed on one party or the other as they would lik us to believe. thats not to say they both dont have their faults, but to come in here and throw the generic “the last 8 years have been a disaster” idea out there is cheap andshows that person isnt looking at the big picture. thats my point.

HP Boston
Your inferiority complex is hardly a good reason for any of the rest of us to avoid Obama. He makes sense to us.

Greenspan should know he was part of the rape of America the last 15 years. Nothing well ever ” Change ” until the States take back the power from Congress.

tim
I agree, this has been a long time coming, and the Democrats have often been complicit with the deregulation and regressive trends of the last 40 years. We’re trying to change that, and it will be a lot easier to do under an Obama Administration than a McCain Administration.

Republicans are responsible because of their trickle down economy, something Reagen started. Trickle down pliloosophy of giving the corporations large tax breaks and in turn companies would create more jobs, but what happened is corps got greedy and shipped jobs overseas and gave CEO’s huge salaries. So our trickle isn’t trickling anymore!

As far as I can tell, this economic crisis is not so much a reflection of the ineptitude or corruption of one or another political party, but a reflection of a corrupt financial industry which ran (and continues to run) amok in an economic system with too little regulation and oversight. I’d say if we’re going to finger-point we should be looking in a mirror. We _are_ America.

When Bush took office we had a surplus of funds now, we are in an economic ditch trying to dig ourselves out. The buck stops with Bush and a congress that was Republican controlled for most of his 8 years in office. I know you like to spin the truth, but the truth will set you free. Just admit that the trickle down theory has TRICKLED OUT! We need a change and a fresh look at the problems this country has, and an assimilation of the brightest minds to determine how to solve them. We need intelligence and experience. Obama & Biden.

Actually, the economic crisis is mostly OUR fault. As long as there is this culture of consumption, and the yawning disparity between what we expect and what we are willing to pay, we will continue to lose our economic power in the world and no longer be masters of our own fate.

The DNC and the Obama Movement SUPPRESSED THE VOTES OF CLINTON Delegates at the National Convention in Denver. On August 27th, 2008 the DNC and the Obama Movement maneuvered an undemocratic and underhanded voting script to ensure that Hillary Clinton’s pledged delegates (and the 18 million votes they represented) HAD NO VOTE. Entire state delegations were brow-beaten into voting Present or Passing their votes to other states. August 27, 2008 is a day that will live in infamy for the Democratic National Committee.
If you are a Democrat and you are FED UP with the DNC and the Obama Movement’s tactics, JOIN US! We are Protesting the 2008 Election.
Join PUMA PAC!!!

HP Boston
If Obama is an inferior candidate, then why do you feel so inferior to him?

Honestly….I don’t see how getting into two new wars (Iraq and with the Russians) is going to help things one bit. Palin-McCain’s talk of putting Georgia and the Ukraine (both nations with large populations that are pro- or ethnically-Russian) is a formula for getting us embroiled in a “hot war” with a nuclear power on their own doorstep. For Russia, it’s the Cuban missile crisis in reverse. They won’t back down.
Russia will now support the Iranians in their endeavors. No more help there. And the Europeans are likely wondering “what a bunch of ignorant tub-thumpers”). Meanwhile China smiles…as both Russian and Central Asian oil and gas goes through pipelines into their economy. And they become more powerful in the East.
Alaska may do quite well with the higher cost of oil and gas (the tax it up the wazoo so they don’t have to pay any State income or sales tax)…but Palin is so out of touch as a Governor to the economic ills facing us in the “lower 49″ that she is worse than uninformed.

I think Obuma is ill prepared to be GOVENOR OF ALASKA!!
I am so concerned about the money and media backing of Obuma, it is a dam
Crusade!!!

RKH…Don’t blame this on a Democratic Congress when the Republicans have filibustered a record number of 80 times making sure that the Democrats could get nothing accomplished. So that people like you would blame the wrong people. Typical Republican politicians…party first, country second.

HP Boston
I will agree that Obama probably doesn’t know much about Alaska.

God help us if McCain is elected. He has run the most disrespectful campaign in history and his advisors are Washington lobbyists. McCain wants MORE tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and corporations while he raises taxes on the rest of us. He promises MORE war even though Bin Laden has yet to be captured or killed.

Sorry, acorrection is due:
Nor do I disagree with the statements about the relative complicity or either political party. They both pretty much suck when it comes to resolving problems, and, yes, the current administration has spent us frivolously into the third world. It’s just that the problems are more complex than many people seem to understand, and as long as we settle for the pat answers and folk medicine (read: snake oil) coming from career politicians, the future is bleak. We quiet types have been too quiet for too long.

OBAMA = CHANGE
McCAIN = CHUMP CHANGE

I’m in Florida, lucky I got gas before the media played up the Cat.#2 hurrican, gas went from $3.55 to over $5.We are living under the effects of what the Bush family did here in this State the way the Country is living with what Bush 41 and Lil Bush did.

HP Boston
Why do you say Obama wants more taxes for the poorest Americans when you know it isn’t true?

NObama is bragging about his $55 million for the month of August, the media did not mention NObama and DNC they’re short ($12 million) for the month of August. NObama is spending money like water. Democrats running in their district are worried too, the DNC has ZERO in their bank account to fund local democrats for their bid.
The RNC and McCain don’t have a problem when it comes to money, McCain accepted public financing ($84 million), he doesn’t have to raise funds for his own campaign. RNC and McCain have over $200 million cash on hand and continue to increase. McCain went to Chicago to raise funds for the RNC, in 5 hours he raised $5 million; right in NOBAMA’s backyard.

Rasmussen’s Daily Tracking Polls shows McCain reaching the 50% threshold mark for the first time….9/14/08
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“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows John McCain reaching the 50% level of support for the first time since Barack Obama wrapped up the Democratic Presidential Nomination. McCain retains a three-point advantage for the third straight day, 50% to 47% (see recent daily results). ”

Anyone read the NY Times article about Palin’s governing style? You should check it out. Cheney Part II.
Or how about the Washington Post’s article on what she actually did as mayor of a town of 5,500. Can you say “not much”? Oh, her BIG accomplishment was building an ice rink that went over budget and ended up in court.
McCain has lost all credibiliy for his “country first” slogan by picking Sarah Palin. She is DANGEROUSLY unqualified.
But you can see Russia from an island in Alaska, so that makes it all better.

Obama – TAX CUTS for those who make under $250,000/ year. That’s about 85% of Americans.
McCain – TAX CUTS for ONLY the wealthiest people in our nation (ala Pres. Bush)
Who is going to help the majority of Americans nd who is going withthe staus quo?

Didn’t Ron Paul predict this over a decade ago. Republicans have screwed us over pretty good, and dems are just as guilty. Time for a new approach. Vote 3rd party if you really care about this country.

Placing blame is more than just a waste of time, it implies that once the blame has been afixed to the “others” the “us” are now free of sin. We won’t solve our problems unless we work together. We can’t work together until we quit the blame game and name calling.
I do want to ask the pro-republican posters one question though, what is this “socialism” you hate and fear so much. Can you define it for us? How is it worse than the corporate cleptocracy we have now? Anyone?

The DNC CHANGED THE VOTES of 600,000 Michiganders on May 31, 2008 when it stole 4 pledged delegates from one candidate and re-pledged them to another.
* The Obama Movement PAID THE SUPERDELEGATES who endorsed Senator Obama. Crucial Super Delegates pledged their support to Obama after the Obama Movement contributed tens of thousands of dollars to them. These were Super Delegates whose constituents had voted overwhelmingly for Senator Clinton in the the primaries.
JOIN PUMA PAC. PROTEST THE DEMS, THEY ARE CORRUPT NOBAMA!
WE PUMAS ARE DEMS WHO WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS CORUPTION!

There’s something I notice about NObama in every speech he delivers it is heavily covered by the media; “he’s close and yet so far.” He connects with the people for a few minutes like a good lecturer but once a person leaves the lecture room, they can’t remember a damn thing what the lecturer talked about. He also talks down on people, he puts a distance between him and his audience, like a professor to his students. NObama cannot relate to a common man but he expects you to believe whatever he says and you have no right to question him. He made him self into an icon, untouchable in so many ways. But the more people know about him, the less they like him; due to the fact NObama is speaking in another world, he uses a language foreign to a lot of people. It is English but the way he talks, makes you feel inferior, you’re beneath him. That is my summation of NObama.
NO WAY NO HOW NO VOTE NOBAMA
Women are the majority and we REJECT obama!! WE will protest the Undemocratic party this election and N.O.T. Nothing on top of the undemocratic ticket..empty. NOBAMA!!
THIS DEM WILL NOT VOTE FOR THE UNDEMOCRATIC PARTY!
I WILL VOTE McCAIN/PALIN.

I think Obuma is ill prepared to be GOVENOR OF ALASKA!!
I am so concerned about the money and media backing of Obuma, it is a dam
GRUSADE!!!
NO WAY NO HOW NO VOTE NOBAMA
Women are the majority and we REJECT obama!! WE will protest the Undemocratic party this election and N.O.T. Nothing on top of the undemocratic ticket..empty. NOBAMA!!
I WILL VOTE McCAIN/PALIN.

HP Boston – Both dems and reps suck. Vote 3rd party for real change. Both parties are incestuously corrupt.
Posted by: Ben Straub | Sep 14, 2008 1:55:54 PM
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Nay nay Ben.
WE dems who are voting for McCain are 2 TWO VOTES AGAINST OBUMA!!!!!
PUMA POWER!!!

Alan Greenspan deserves to be put in jail for his management of the Fed Funds rate during his tenure. To all those that have a clue on how money works in this country, he is America’s public enemy #1. Shame on ABC for allowing this ego maniac the time to vent his criminal views.

HP Boston if you think this country is in big trouble now and MCCains get in you have seen nothing.Might as well call us either lil China or Russia Pretty scary for an older persons point of view.If Bush don’t have us in another war before he gets his bad aqq out of office I will be surprised
This womoan john baby has asked to help him know nothing but how to grease her own palm and those of her buddies and her use of power wow —–heaven forbiddddd.

Well, Obamabots,
You can point the finger of economic blame at the Republicans, and you will partially correct.
That’s like being politically correct.
But, to be accurate, you also need to point that finger of blame at the party in control of the legislative branch.
Take a good look at who has been in control of both the Senate and the House of Representatives for the last two years.
Then, assess exactly what Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Biden and the rest of the majority Democrats have done to get our economy on the right track.
The answer is…NOTHING…
That’s right…
A do-nothing Congress dominated by the likes of Senator Barack “Present” Obama (D-REZKO) and Senator Joe Biden (D-MBNA) has done virtually nothing except complain and blame.
That performance is indicative of the type of executive leadership that both Obama and Biden would bring to the White House.
More of the same “do nothing”, whining performance that we have seen from Democrats in Congress.
Anybody But Obama…

Worst economic crisis in decades? Talk about toning down the truth.
Take what you see every day in the news – staggering home foreclosures, rising commodity and energy prices, biggest increases in unemployment in years (84,000 jobs lost last month alone), a colossal federal budget deficit and trade deficit, negative national savings rate, record debt foreclosures – Take all that, and you have simply a recipie for a severe recession.
Economies are cyclical, so this scenario could happen regardless of government policy.
Now add to that: A trillion dollar debt, a trillion dollar war, a trillion dollars that it will cost the US to care for our 200,000 veterans who have served (including 40,000 injured) in Iraq for the next 70 years.
It is utterly simplistic to be talking about “recession”. What we have in America is the parallel of the economy of Germany or the UK before their collossal implosions in the early to mid-20th century. In both of those cases, the goverments ebraced the three demonic evils – Religion, War, and occupation of foreign countries. History repeats itself.
Alan Greespan is being conservative in his comments… he is talking about the tip of the iceberg.
The only solution to America’s financial crisis is a leader with the guts to lead America to a pay-as-we-go federal budget.

I have long been a Republican since Reagan. I am no longer. I have changed. One the policies of this administation are exactly why the fist Bush lost to Clinton. It’s the economy stupid. Now we have a two-term pesident who knows less than his father. Now they’e trying to put in place a Bush look-alike. What differences have we seen? Even his own party doubted him until Palin. McCain’s campaign has acted dispicable in this election. They have said nothing new. I think onald Reagan would be ashamed of the Republicans now. They have taken the low road. This economy, these wars, have happened on their watch. Remember..”the buck stops here?” well accept responsibility..you sold us all out.

HP Boston – Too bad that some votes are thrown at candidates that will do great harm. Again thanks for nothing!

HP Boston – Too bad that some votes are thrown at candidates that will do great harm. Again thanks for nothing!
Posted by: Ben Straub | Sep 14, 2008 2:26:16 PM
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you are so welcome…………

Every time in the 20th and 21st Century we have had a financial meltdown, it has been under a Republican President.
Greenspan is a Republican.
President’s set budgets two-four year’s in advance and appoint regultors NOT Congress. All it does is approve or disapprove both.
The Democrats only have a small majority in the House for the last year and a half and a majority of one (on occasion) in the Senate.
There is no way they could override Bush’s budgets from four years back.
The meltdown is Bush’s–like his father’s.
Clinton said “It is the economy, stupid.”
The son isn’t any smarter than the father.
And McCain admits he knows nothing about economics nor does Palin.
Republicans know how to cut taxes for the rich and corporations, but do NOT know how to run an economy for the rest of the country. We just pay their bills.
It is time for a MAJOR TAX REVOLT. And that is exactly what McCain will get if he is elected.

Ben Straub and Dan Kolich –
You guys have your eyes open. People who still believe in the integrity of either party have a ways to go, don’t they? I’ve been watching The System for too many decades to continue thinking that the power elites really give a damn about the world beyond themselves either now or in years to come.

Palin rules Alaska with fear, like Bush has done with this country during the last 7plus years. They are afraid to speak what will she do to the rest of America muzzle us too?! Her husband wanted to separate from the union, will she use her power to FREE Alaska while putting the rest of us in bondage!
America vote Issues not RACE!!! Even the junkie on the street know they are lying! What’s your reason for ignoring the facts?

icancanu – I have come to the conclusion that the system is corporate fascism out of control. Our Keynesian system is failing because eventually you do have to liquidate the debt. People like HP Boston are probably picking up paychecks from Karl Rove to spread crap on these sites. America is in trouble. Its nice to see that there are some people like you that really are looking into issues. Ron Paul and Nader have opened my eyes to many things.

Historical data shows that the Democrats are better for the economy and stock market.
Millions of Jobs Added
Truman 1949 -1952 5.2
Eisenhower 1953 – 1956 2.7
Eisenhower 1957 – 1960 0.8
Kennedy/Johnson 1961 – 1964 5.7
Johnson 1965 – 1968 9.8
Nixon 1969 – 1972 6.1
Nixon/Ford 1972 – 1976 5.2
Carter 1977 – 1980 10.4
Reagan 1981 – 1984 5.2
Reagan 1985 – 1988 10.8
Bush 1989 – 1992 2.5
Clinton 1993 – 1996 11.6
Clinton 1997 – 2000 11.5
Bush 2001 – 2004 (0.1)
Bush 2005 – 2008 5.1

KKKarl Rove gave us Bush/Cheney
KKKarl Rove is getting ready to give stupid americans McCain/Palin
KKKarl Rove is now in the news saying McCain’s lies have gone too far. KKKarl Rove works in McCain’s campaign.
C’mon stupid america, put KKKarl Rove back in the white house so he can continue to destroy america from the inside.

The recent polls indicate that many Americans, like me, are making the same choice.
Anybody But Obama…
Posted by: Jayhawk | Sep 14, 2008 2:47:39 PM
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kudos to you and me Jathawk. Are you Puma?

Recession what recession?
It’s a recession if your neighbors out of work, it’s a depression if you are, and everythings always okay if your a republican
It’s not that bad, John McCain 2008
It could be worse if we were attacked again, George Bush 2004

George: Tuned into your broadcast for the first time in a while but was disappointed. You stack the deck with hard left wingers that undermine any possibility of a fair review of the week’s events. Your segment with Greenspan however revealed his honest assessment of the current economic scene.

Can any of you people here tell me what you are trying to accomplish by spewing hatred, negativity, generalities unsupported by fact, and other evidence of your close-mindedness? Yikes. Go spend time with your families, do some volunteer work, or organize for the political party of your choice. Do SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE. The US of A cannot survive in an atmosphere of negativity like the one displayed on this board and so many others. After reading these comments I feel unclean, like I just took a swim in a toilet. FLUSH!

Ah yes LA be sure to set it up…
OBAAMA loses GE B/C of racism.
OBUMA WILL LOSE B/C HE IS NO HILLARY CLINTON.
Soon he will be dumping Biden b/c he can not win without HILLAY!!!

HP this has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. Because over half this country does not want Bill Clinton back in the white house, she wouldn’t have won. The intelligent people in this country know that, its the stupid people that don’t.
Our country will dumb down just to put stupid Palin in the white house? No, its because they’re afraid of the skin color of Barack Obama. I keep hearing day after day “they will think they’re in charge if he wins”.
Who is “they”?
I don’t have to set it up, its already in place. This country would rather put a woman in charge without the education and the knowledge to increase our standing in the world. So its not about Country First, its about Racism.

Sir, you caused this mess!

There is something fundamentally rotten at the core of the republican party when they can celebrate the elevation of a candidate to run for our highest office that is so unqualified as to be laughable. Over and over again they say the opposite of what they truly believe – in this case, “country first” when in fact this choice shows that republicans, and John McCain, care nothing for our country.
Republican’s have always pulled whatever slimy stunt they deemed necessary to win an election, and congratulate themselves on their gutter politics. But with Sarah Palin, they and John McCain, have hit an all time low. It is despicable and disheartening to think our great democracy is being threated by people with no love for our country. If republican’s had any shame, or patriotism, they would hang their heads and weep.

Greenspan is a Republican hack. He approved the Bush tax cuts knowing that it would be detrimental to the economy. He should take responsibility for this mess, for had he spoken out when he should have, we might not be experiencing this economic meltdown. So Repubs, if lower taxes are the answer to everything, how come the economy has taken a nose-dive in spite of the Bush tax cuts? So much for his executive experience.

Both Republicans and Democrats agree that the economic policy of the past eight years has FAILED miserably.
That’s why the GOP had to distance themselves from Bush at their own convention. They didn’t say the word “CHENEY” once! It’s basically, “We screwed you for eight years, but now we will make it better. We’re all about change now”
Obama has an economic plan that is fundimentally different than that of George Bush and his administration. It offers tax breaks to 85% of the nation. (Those who make less than $250,000/year)
Please give me ANY example of how McCain’s economic plan differs from George Bush. Anyone? Seriously, anyone?
I can’t see any “plan” at all. Health care, taxation, international spending are identical to the Geroge W “plan”. Make policy that only benefits the wealthiest 10% in our nation.
What exactly is the “change” McCain and Palin are promising?

BIG PROTEST AGAINST PALIN BY ALASKAN WOMEN!!!
Alaska TV news says “biggest protest ever in Alaska!”
See the pictures and the homemade signs of the people of Alaska, that won’t be fooled by this Palin FARCE!!!
Alaskan women aren’t fooled by McCain’s poor choice of Palin, why are you??
http://s521.photobucket.com/albums/w335/frsbdg/Alaska%20Women%20Reject%20Palin/?action=view&current=Bristol.jpg

I am heartsick. I began college in 1969. I truly felt that my generation believed in peace and brotherhood. I truly believed that we were going to create an equal and honorable society. Look what we have done. We gave the world George Bush; we lie to go to war; we have created an elitist and corrupt society; we are in incredible debt. This is the world that we have created to leave to our children and grandchildren.
Some of the women whom I stood beside in the women’s movement are allowing their own strong-willed nature to become more important that the general good they have struggled for. They are letting the symbol of our movement (Hillary Clinton) become more important that the causes she stands for. For God sakes, will Americans really vote for McCain and Palin? Will they really vote to continue the path we have been following during the last eight years??? Boomers, wake up and remember your souls.

Greenspan said that McCain tax plan would in effect put the United States much much further in hole!

“I wonder how many times you have to be hit on the head before you find out who’s hitting you? It’s about time that the people of America realized what the Republicans have been doing to them,” – Harry Truman.

Gee, could someone refresh my memory, but isn’t it Greenspan that is to blame for the current housing crisis.
Him and Clinton lowered the interest rates extremely low to bolster a weak economy. Then, they are the ones who allowed the mortgage industry to get involved in predatory lending.
Chris Todd, Obama, etc have all benefited from some of Greenspan’s decisions to lower the interest rates.
This mortgage mess did not happen over night – I believe it can be traced directly to Greenspan and Clinton
Of course, Andrea Mitchell’s husband is coming out to make a POLITICAL POINT against Obama – they are both in the tank for Obama and everyone knows is.
Again, abc’s lame effort for Obama.

We need a viable 3rd party with enough strength that no one party has a majority and can ram rod things through. I refuse to vote for the lessor of two evils. I would rather vote for the person I want, and lose, than vote for the person I don’t want, and win.
Greenspans monetary policy in the 90′s set whoever the next president was up for failure. Bush added to the failure by starting a religious war that the US could not afford.

I laugh that abc and nbc paraded Greenspan on Sunday morning when it was his policies that caused the whole mess.
OMG – abc and nbc how low can you go??????

There is something fundamentally rotten at the core of the Democrat party when they can celebrate the elevation of a candidate to run for our highest office that is so unqualified as to be laughable. Over and over again they say the opposite of what they truly believe. Obama, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Michelle have demonstrated how they truly feel about our country.
Democrats have always pulled whatever slimy stunt they deemed necessary to win an election, and congratulate themselves on their gutter politics. But with Barack Obama, they and Joe Biden, have hit an all time low. It is despicable and disheartening to think our great democracy is being threated by people with no love for our country. If Democrat’s had any shame, or patriotism, they would hang their heads and weep.

Hey JayHawk at least those presidents served whole terms as Gov some 2 and have done other things and all of those states have Cities with bigger populations then Alaska That would mean the mayors of those cities have more experience the Palin although you do make a point with GWB and Texas. That is being Gov of Texas sure didn’t help him .

I wish all you right wing smear mongers would just shut up already about reverand wright. The man was a decorated marine who volunteered to serve his country. Did you?
Yeah, I agree, he said some pretty strange things, but fundamentally I don’t believe he hates his country. He, like everyone else, has the option to move. And he didn’t. He, like everyone else, had the option to serve, and he did.
So shut up.

Doesn’t anyone have concern about the massive millions of dollars the Obama campaign is spending. They brag about the fund raising amounts but they sure don’t report how much of that money is going out the door. In twelve months of campaigning the Obama team has spent more than $200 million and continues to spend more. His glamorous Hollywood style acceptance ceremony cost more than $5 million.
In all this time and massive spending Obama still only receives a 41% rating that he is the person to be president. Talk about “same old politics”, spend, spend, spend that’s all he has done for a year.
Take a look at the recent unemployment figures. Obama’s state of Illinois is in the top 5 for the highest unemployment rate. What has Senator Obama done to help his state create jobs?
American voters it’s time to step back and take a good look beyond the glitz, glamour and feel good speeches and look at this man’s qualities to lead a country. What has he done in his political career to advance the quality of life for the citizens of his state and country? If your vote is in favor of Obama in the White House I hope in two years you remember how he got there and who put him there.

Dottie: I don’t believe you. I think you are a liar when you said you started out undecided. You are a partisan hack whose mind was made up years ago. Those who are undecided do not see Harry Reid and Joe Biden as the devil.
Stop posing as a convert. Call a spade a spade. You would support the republicans even if they were a complete disaster for the country — and in fact they will be.

Zero-bama raised $66 mil, of which he used $10 mil to build his Temple of Doom on top of Mile High. No wonder the economy is under Greenspan’s nose.
If you get Zero-bama to manage the country, he will use $1 tril to build a Highway to the Moon. Hey, he may create a lot of jobs to do it, hard labor, just when Stallin sent his political enemies to build the trans Seberia.

d0, your post makes no sense. I can’t even figure out what you are trying to say, although i suspect that you do not like Obama.
The problem with the economy is basically the deregulate-til-you-explode policies of the Bush administration. Banks are failing left and right. Things haven’t been so bad since the great depression. And McCain wants to keep the same Bush policies? Is he nuts?
It isn’t clear if any leader can dig us out of this mess. What is clear to me is that at least Obama will try. Leaving the same policies in place, like McCain has proposed, is just letting everything collapse.

I’m a first time democratic voter. I can’t believe I’ve really switched sides, but I have. I am just so disgusted with what the Bush administration has done to our country. In almost every respect this president has been a disaster (OK, I can name a very FEW things that have been positive, but precious few). And McCain is so aligned with Bush. A vote for him really is a vote for just continuing the same policies. I’m not going to vote again for the same things that have turned our country into such a mess.
So I’m a first time democratic voter. Obama 08.
Maybe if the republicans put up someone decent next time, I’ll come back to the fold.

So, what about Obama’s plan will improve the economy, again? Higher taxes for the top, right? How does that money convert into a more stable economy…sorry folks, the answer is simple, lower corporate taxes, at least on par with Europe’s…
Or, whatever Greenspan says…I still don’t get why everyone doesn’t just listen to the guy, he’s like Yoda!

…We will never know what the true cost of the ‘New Deal’ was or how badly it has effected the US economy over the years. But one thing is for sure, we will be paying for this epic mistake for many generations to come.

Lehmann Brothers is liquidating; Merrill is in a last minute buy-out, AIG
and Washington Mutual are on the rocks and McCain’s advisor has a nice editorial in today’s Washington Post stating “things today just aren’t that bad” – Love the name of the editorial ‘Quit Doling out that Bad Economy Line”.
Obama/Biden ’08

John and Cindy McCain looked very patriotic visiting ground zero, hand in hand. Barack Hussein Obama looked like a guy who couldn’t get a date to the prom. Where was Michelle Obama? Does she really hate America so much that she celebrates the terrorist attacks of 9/11 at home in a turban?
Barack Hussein Obama and his anti-American wife spent 20 years listening to spews of hatred and “God Damn America” in a so-called church of God. Apparently Michelle believes America caused 9/11. All these radical teachings have been instilled in their brains by Jeremiah Wright.
For over two decades Obama turned to, was counseled by, and formed a strong personal bond with a minister who is a divider and a hatemonger. This simply cannot effectively act as a unifying force for the USA.
The best result out of Obama’s campaign may turn out to be progress in the form of all American cultures accepting that each individual, regardless of race, is to be rightfully held accountable for their actions, affiliations, as well as the doctrines that they adhere to and cultivate in others.
The embarrassing litany of anarchy, filth and hate that Rev. Wright spews should not be excused away as simply “the way our people speak”. Wrong is wrong and is not to be determined on a sliding scale according to skin color.
Obama has told too many lies. He has too many ties to anti-Americans and terrorists.
Have you thought about what might happen if Obama really is a closet Muslim and becomes president?
Vote for John McCain in November. Country first!

Would be nice if ABC had covered the real ‘abc’s of Greenspan’s talk today –especially that he is an advisor to hedge fund Paulson & Co. Why is that important? Hedge fund manager John Paulson earned billions of dollars last year by betting against the housing market. Critics of Greenspan are specific: “It’s one thing for Greenspan to sell books and give speeches to try to salvage his reputation…Nixon did that too, with more success and less profit. It is quite another for him to benefit in a far more direct fashion from the devastation he created, by hooking up with the fund that scored the biggest kill from the worst aspects of the negative real interest rates that Greenspan put into effect.” That quote is from Naked Capitalism, Yves Smith. ABC owed it to it’s listeners to question Greenspan on this point –especially if it considers itself a news organization.
Are our news media sleeping or captured?

Americans are asleep. British columnists are calling this melt-down the end of capitalism. This is the vaunted end result of the Republican religion of the free market. All these smart business people, that the small people rely desperately upon for jobs have been shown to be be greedy idiots. By definition, if you make a mess this bad, you are an idiot. A kindergartner throwing darts at a dartbord could have done as well as the current crop of elite CEOs. The Republicans cannot absorb the lessons of this economic crisis. Their minds are closed. For them economic theory is a religion, not subject to revision upon unbiassed examination of outcomes. We are in fact highly socialized at this point, with the nationalization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Your mortgage check is going to the United States Treasury. Meanwhile, McCain knows nothing about economics, which is not surprising since he graduated almost at the bottom of his class. McCain/Palin is beginning to remind me of Hoover. The Republican response has been tepid and laggard every inch of the way as this crisis has unfolded. We need someone bold, a new FDR. That’s not McCain, who is just a hack for the same old supply side economics. As if tax-cuts could ‘solve’ this systemic problem. Tax-cuts are fine-tuning , not the whole bag of tricks, but it’s all the Republicans can dredge up. McCain’s age is symbolic here, as he peddles the same old recycled ideas that have been irrelevant in this mess. In fact, while the Republicans were preaching the “efficiency” of tax-cuts to the entrepreneurial class, the rich thought they’d discovered the true path to wealth creation, and it had nothing to do with jobs. All this money sloshing around the global economy in a giant ponzi scheme. You don’t make jobs when you purchase securitized mortgages, as the hedge funds did with their wealthy clients’ money. What we’ve had for the past many years was the idea that a huge sector of an economy can be based on the idea that an individual can get rich by selling his home. This works if you find a sucker, However , it most emphatically cannot work for an entire nation to think this way. Tax-cuts, a nice idea, but unfortunately human beings don’t react the way the Republicans told us they would. What were the Wall Street bonuses about? What were these people doing that was positive for the economy? We now know they were digging us deeper into a ditch, taking their obscene compensation packages when times were good, and then having the taxpayers bail out the good ol’ boys when the losses came. I think what we need is a retroactive tax increase, because the tax cuts sure did not play out as promised. People don’t work harder when taxes are cut. All they do in America is try to do get rich off the housing market, stock market, or the commodity markets. The idea in America is to get rich off “investments” so you no longer have to work.

The Democratic Party,
Cleaning up Republican deregulation bank-jobs for decades.

gee if it isn’t kitty the dip sh*t on another blog spouting off repub trimpe as usual.

Tim”i would rather vote for another republican than give a vote for socialism anyday. as a matter of fact, i think thats what i will do again”.
Listen to another imp speak. 70million plus Americans lack health insurance and even those who have cannot guarantee exceptional treatment.
We despised Kerry cuz he spoke French, and boycotted “french” fries (which is by no means French made)…YET the French have among the best healthcare system in the world..together with the Cubans (Socialists by the way)and Scandinavia (Swedes, Fins, Danes etc) who have a welfare state.
Their education system (Scandinavia) is better and they have a considerably higher standard of living than the avergae US citizen…
And u have the audacity to say that is socialist and so u will vote Republican? The days of the “superpower” USA is gone. The rest of the world has caught up and we better be prepared to adjust and adapt to change else we will become like dinosaurs. Macau has taken over from Las Vegas, London is the financial capital of the world and Dubai has some of the worlds most outstanding infrusture..
all of these at one time were all the USA’s pride and joy. Think Tim, and vote wisely and desist from impish analysis

What I find objectionable is that ABC News will even grant that self-serving pompus ‘Wall Street Cheerleader-in-Chief’ aka Alan Greenspan any air time at all.
History will come to recognise him as one of the most incompetent governors in the history of the Federal Reserve who frequently added fuel to the fire using reckless monetary policy whenever there looked like there was a natural correction coming in the markets.
20 years of financial partying and binging by the financial institutions resulting in the creation of these ‘Financial Instruments of Mass destruction’ all under the ingorant, irresponsible Greenspan Fed (if not actually aided and abetted by the Fed itself) is coming home to roost and ABC News actually allows the man to offer insight and advice on a problem which was largely his creation.
Please do the whole world a favour and shut the windbag up. Don’t give him airtime.

Wait a second…the Democrats have the majority in the House and Senate, the last two years, and you all are blaming Republicans??? What? If you all are going to blame one person, don’t blame Bush, blame the man in this article…Greenspan…he couldn’t stop raising interest rate a few years back when he thought he saw inflation…he didn’t. The last two years your Democrats should have been trying to pass mortgage legislation to prevent this…instead it was all about the war!

I think Dems are really inept. I had hoped they would hold Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz and Powell accountable, but they failed miserably. Bush has been doing exactly what he wanted with or without Dems controlling the Congress. Republicans were just a rubber stamp Congress in 2002-2006. No big surprise. Result: they spent, spent, spent. It was all about the war and spending with them. Bush did not use his veto even once when Republicans held Congress. Now Bush threatens to use veto every day and Republicans keep filibustering everything. Blame Democrats for the current economic mess? I don’t think so. It’s not going to be that easy for the free market ideologues this time.

The Republicans have borrowed about $500B from China and shoveled it to the top 1% (via tax cuts). Then they shoveled billions more middle class dollars to big oil companies and gave them record profits. Now Wall Street is lining up for it’s parting gift. Should be another half trillion. The only advantage of welfare for the poor is that its much cheaper than welfare for the rich.

JA…ummm, you should do your research before you open your ignorant mouth…the wonderful gov Christ just opened up 650 million in the state of florida’s “rainy day fund” because of the horrible economy…way to go and make it a partisin thing that gets nothing accomp though…do some thinking before you think…really!

1. Markets go up and down no matter what anyone says or does.
2. When there’s a huge investment and it climbs and climbs endlessly beyond what seems reasonable.. guess what.. if it’s large enough it will in fact drop a dramatic distance when it drops. This is not “cup half full vs half empty” this is rationalism. It is recognizing the reality of a situation.
3. A lot of people tried to say the so called bubbles were “endless, don’t worry about them they’ll never come down sizably, they will always climb” or some variation on this. Refer to #1 and remember it always.
4. That’s what happened with the dot-coms, that’s what happened with the real-estate. Whoever listened to the people in #3 above and didn’t engage brain with #1.. LOST. PERIOD. And I sympthatize with the ones who honestly just didn’t know. It is not always obvious where you stand at #1 above.
5. You should apply these to everything financial. I would say it is indeed good thinking to vary your investments in as “unconnected of markets” as possible as much as possible and look at each of your investments and apply this thinking to them.
Our own personal failures to think about this and think outside of our tremendous gains, “geee, my stock in abcxyz.com just went up 500%.. 1B sounds a bit large for a seller of gadgets that sold $2M last year… hmm…” At some point you have to sell in order to realize your gains… and prevent a huge loss…
I think a lot of the crashes and bubbles were not caused by government or big business, but rather by personal greed and idiocy.
A continued bit of wisdom –
1. Generally speaking — The president does NOT affect the economy, he only gets the blame for it. The congress affects the economy.
2. Most financial changes starting in the congress take YEARS to have an affect, so some problem we have today is not necessarily the fault of the current congress and probably not the fault of the president. (am I trying to protect Bush? NO.)
3. Therefore — to speak clearly on any of this subject, you need a rather large recent historical background on congressional laws that have been passed and what the economy has been doing. (and what the economy has been doing in reaction to the laws..)
4. Remember this when you hear people mouth off about this or that president or this or that congress or who’s fault it is that something happened.
5. Remember also the prior statements I made about the markets. NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE DOES, MARKETS GO UP AND DOWN. 6. If you take a chart with a curving line that goes up and down and you slant the chart diagonally uphill, you can make it look like we’re never decreasing. This is what the “leaders” of our country do to deceive us. And they make statements based on this slanted chart instead of the more harmless and realistic horizontal one.
These are basic principles that I use when reading everything. If what’s said completely disagrees or contradicts obvious rules, I throw it out the window and just IGNORE what that person says. As the one gentleman says, “THINK”. Yes think. Use my rule-set.. use your own rule-set.. but THINK.
I’m in the non-partisan “American” party. I am going to vote based on who I think is the better candidate, NOT from party loyalty or other emotional garbage that others try to throw at me to change my mind, and in fact I’m going to start to count the number of garbage messages generated by a given candidate and count them AGAINST that candidate. My thinking is, if they’re generating garbage, then that’s all they have to offer.
-Rog

The old fool is responsible for the housing bubble, which leads to the turmoil of financial market by kept on lowering interest rate.

A typical Democratic response to a problem. Start screaming and crying like a bunch of scared children when lightning and thunder appears. Mommy, Mommy, Obamy, Obamy, help me, help me, I’m scared. :( It’s a financial correction that was bound to happen no matter who was President. You Lib’s can thank your whore master idol William Jefferson Clinton for his deregulation policies with no oversight to watch those greedy bastards on Wall street, Democcrats and Republicans alike, their all guilty. That being said fools show me how that drug using glorified street punk is going to make a difference?. The biggest, obvious, dumb ass mistake Ojerko made was not to select Hillary as his VP running mate when it was so obviuos she was the best qualified candidate for your party. Is that good decision making? No, it’s me first and screw the rest of you. Now if you don’t stop crying go back to your room untill the thunder stops in Nov. when McCain/Palin win.

Concerning government takeover of independent companies: So what is now really the basic difference between capitalism and communism? If we were to say that it is okey for government takeovers under specific financial crisis, then communist countries could choose to tell their bank managers to lend money to people who hardly understand how a cell phone works. Then communist countries could have their financial deficits increase due to massive war expences and unnecessary high energy costs – in a way to plummit their economies, and thereby cause the ‘good’ reason for government takeover of independent companies.
If AIG has money problems due to hurricanes, and if the hurricanes are due to bad energy decisions – why continue using oil instead of solar/wind power? Instead of government subsidies for large investment firms, government should pay so that every household can have their own solar/wind power plant for their home and electric car (free energy). I do not like the ‘logic’ that it is automatically better with capitalism, it has to be a REASON for it to be better, not just using different words for the same things. Or if consequences are the same in the end, then what is the point? Capitalism SHOULD be about making better things, smarter. Not just changing names, or moving government stupidity into company stupidity. If the politicians were really smart, they would insert laws into the system to ensure that nobody within the financial system could ever make money off of crashing the economy of listed companies. If the politicians were really smart, they would let the central bank decide how high taxes should be on all real estate, so that they could stop excesses when it comes to property value rises. Simple stuff like that..

Don’t be nervous about the economy. If the system will not correct itself and failure is inevitable, then fail it must. I believe that the current situation can be changed only if those responsible for it’s demise are held accountable. If not then America will do what it always does, change the current system to a more transparent one where stock holders can see what is really happening and will be able to change direction even if the management of those firms are looking for their own self interests (sometimes these interests are not in the interests of their shareholders. Or they believe they can fool the public with illusions) Yes change will happen and human life will continue either through choice or failure. Let’s hope that those responsible take the consequences of their actions. And no, the same old illusions to fool the public into taking responsibility will not work because sooner or later reality has to be dealt with.

“The biblical message is that money must never be made available so cheaply. With all of his knowledge and at the end of his career, why didn’t Greenspan understand this?
Posted by: ikas”
What? Cheap money? Bible?
I think you got it backwards…. the Judaic and Christian Bible, like Islam, prohibits Usury, which is the charging of high interest… in some societies ALL interest is considered immoral, and why not? It’s a form of slavery… the wealthy getting richer by NOT working.

I agree Chris P. as do I think people who use Mcblame, Mcshame, McBush and other twists of Mr. McCain’s name. I find that they equally have little to contribute to political and social dialog. Both camps are a little too angry to discuss meaningful solutions to real problems.
Just an observation.

Ah, who said the ecomony is booming in Florida?
Maybe day labor where you work ten hours a day and get what the contracter figures is flat going rate for the job, maybe thirty dollars. Day labor is big down here. So are flat commission service jobs. You don’t sell anything you you don’t make any money.

OMG! Thank-you “Calliguy55″! Finally, someone with some financial sense! Your truth about the market cycles was so awesome to read, not just some political-blame-game junk.
It was the sort of simple intellegence that is lacking in (what seems like) 90% of Americans.
Well said Calliguy 55!

Alan Greenspan is as great man. Obama is going to ruin your lives America with his incredibly dumb economic policy.
1. Government should NEVER step in to “bail out= socialize” PRIVATE companies. To do so means to WORSEN recession and cause depression. Who pays for the “bail out”? Hello? YOU DO. YOU have to work more, tax more and/or pay more for goods/food [inflation]. YOU DO.
2. Government should have let the FREE MARKET sort it out. It would indeed mean JOB LOSS, AND THE CRUMBLING OF BAD COMPANIES. AND THAT IS GREAT! Because it would enable RAPID re-employment as NEW companies are formed. But now, this is not going to happen.
3. Obama wants to tax our heros more: corporation and the rich man. The result? Corporations will charge YOU more because they have no choice. The rich man that invests billions into our markets will move it out to other nations thereby furthering recession.
Heres my advice America:
1. YOU are self-responsible, not government. So get with it and be responsible instead of blaming government
2. NEVER NEVER NEVER let government bail out, sponsor or nationalize any company. Communists “tried that” and ended up with collapse. Go to any DMV and you will see “government in action [state]“. Go to any Starbucks or WalMart and you will see “PRIVATE” industry in action BECAUSE in private industry EVERYONE is responsible for results or they are fired [unlike government].
Economics is simple.

To have a better understanding of what caused the financial crisis and how we can remedy it please read a post titled “Why is the United States undergoing a political and Financial Crisis?” and watch the third video down labeled “The Money Masters” at:
http://www.theartdeptchronicles.blogspot.com

“COMBINED PROBLEM’S TRUE CAUSE OF FINANCIAL MELT DOWN” !!!!!
American’s are losing money from with in because of illegal’s working for half wage’s.”Somebody’s” happy their paying less at American’s expense.
American’s are losing money from out sourcing our job’s to foreign country’s. These people working for $10 dollar’s a day or less.Somebody’s happy their paying less at the American’s expense.”NOTE”Product price does not come down.Somebody’s happy at the America’s expense.”FREE TRADE”
“OUR ELECTED”, get their cost of living wage at American’s expense.While American’s wage’s “FALL”.
I’ll bet you can multiply a “WALMART CHECKER’S WAGE’S”, By one thousand time’s? It wont come close to a “CONGRESS OR SENATE OR CEO WAGE”. Unfair or not?
Think about it what really pay’s America’s bills?
“Housing Crash,Stock Market Crash?
American’s stable “WAGE’S” pay the bill’s?
THINK ABOUT IT? “NO PAY,NO PAY?
The bottom feed the top?
Predator’s Legal theft of unfair interest rate’s both credit card and Loan’s rob the People’s ability to pay their bills?
THINK ABOUT IT? The People are being squeezed beyond their ability to pay fair rate’s.”Somebody’s happy their making money at the people’s expense”?
I thought “OUR” Elected Official’s are supposed to protect the American people?It really is in their Own best interest to do so?”THINK ABOUT IT”?NO PAY, NO PAY,{NO FAULT OF THE PEOPLE:}
When We The People Are Not Working? See how you Like the Trickle Up affect. All because Someone’s not doing their JOB?I wonder Who??? Who will take a stand to help America???
Inflation is also strapping the people.We the people have not gotten a cost of living wage.
These problem’s combined have devastated America’s well being.
1 illegal’s
2 Out sourcing job’s
3 Unfair trade,Unfair marketing to the people.
4 Criminal Legal interest rate’s,fee’s fine’s etc.
5 Outrageous wage’s at the top at people’s expense.
6 A decade of Inflation while the peoples wage’s flat line.
7 Taxation without representation.
8 Giving with the right hand while taking with the left.
9 I’m sure I’ve left out a lot more” PORK”.END OF STORY.
STEVE SRADER AMERICAN
I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.