DeLay: Unlike Obama, Palin Sees Baby as ‘Blessing,’ Not ‘Punishment’

did hastert really call her principaled
has he not seen the facts coming out of Alaska since she was announced…

Many of the “sexist” comments and questions that have come up about Palin and motherhood are coming from McCain/Palin’s own far right base. Dr. Laura’s BLOG today is a perfect example.
http://www.drlaurablog.com/2008/09/02/sarah-palin-and-motherhood/

NMP, yes, but it’s YOU guys who have always been opposed to sexism.
So it’s odd coming from you guys. Just like when the intolerance comes from your (so-called “tolerant”) party.
By the way, almost every rumor about Palin has been debunked. Even the NYT had to issue a retraction today, and WaPo will have to issue one tomorrow.
Fun, fun, fun.

Yes, Obama said he wouldn’t want his daughters to be “punished” with a baby.
I heard it – we all heard it. Don’t bother trying to spin it away.
By the way, the rabid liberal media and Obamabots have ENSURED that the Palin speech will be watched by millions. It will be hilarious if it’s surpassed by the ones who saw Obamas!
Thanks libs! :)

This freaken baby is not the issue here it is her ,,,,,She is NOT fit to run this country Obama said kids off limits what part of that don’t you understand or are you trying to cause trouble???????People like you should not even be quoted…;.

Obama strongly support legislation of infanticide act. What else do you need to know about him?

DeLay is such a disgrace.

Yes, kids and spouses are off limits.
However, it is perfectly OK for the Obama campaign to hammer on the number of houses that Cindy McCain’s family owns any time they feel like it……..

What really worries me about Palin is her environmental policies (especially in regards to drilling in the ANWR). Given the state of our environment these days I think it is evermore important for us, as consumers to support ‘green businesses’ that benefit the environment. For example, http://www.simplestop.net stops your postal junk mail and benefits the environment.

Meg Whitman, McCain’s national campaign co-chair and former CEO of e-Bay, veered off message today in an interview with Fox News, describing the media vetting of Palin as “completely fair” and saying that there hasn’t really been any sexism to speak of in the coverage.

Palin is pro-fro.
Pro- fornication.
Palin is pro under-aged drinking.
Are you sure she wasn’t the principle from that Mass. High school with the pregnancy pact?
Society is sinking fast when the consevitives are the most liberal.

What’s Todd Palin doing up there. The wife is busy I know but there’s still a family to maintain.
How Sarah choose a looser like him. Must run in the family. Because the Palin’s have excepted the situation doesn’t make the situation right. Palin is a figure head, and if she does not speak out against teen pregnancy she doing the country a disservice COUNTRY FIRST. yea right REPUBLICAN FIRST, lobbist second then the rest of you whinners after. But before Africa of coarse.

Like someone said on one of these boards: The Palin family crest is the 3 F’s Fishing, Fight’in and the other F word.

Two more scandalous tapes of the Palin girl has surfaced. One to be released during the VP debate and one during the first presidential debate. I do not know the order of release, but one tape is of her and a boy not Levi. The other with another girl, very hot. wait a minute would that be kiddie porn? Wait and see. DOWN WITH THE UNGODLY GOLITHE, LONG LIVE DAVID.

POW
Yeah, sure.

A teenage pregnancy may be a blessing to some but it isn’t always the ideal scenario for a young person so early in life. There is no one “right” situation, no one size fits all experience.
The punishment Obama referred to was suffering an STD as a teenager.

I don’t care what family support you have, a child having a child is punishment if they don’t have a choice. What do these kids know about getting married and raising a child. It’s hard enough when you’re an adult.

Samantha
Unplanned pregnancy’s happen in and out of marriage. Unfortunately, the liberal answer is to terminate the life of the fetus. That’s an easy way out and says little of people taking responsibility.
But then, the democratic party is no longer concerned with people taking responsibility. Are they?

Obama the illegitimate child of a bigamist…..should lay low on all family issues regarding Palin. He has the most complicated family of any candidate….Kenyan Muslim dad, Indonesian Muslim step dad, 8 half siblings and 3 step mothers…..please, lets not go there.
McCAIN/PALIN

Coming from Delay that is encouraging.
Because I know he is the least credible person in the solar system

although I don’t like here daughter being the crosshairs of the news i must say
HOW DOES IT FEEL GOP WHEN YOU ARE WITNESSING CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OF YOUR CANDIDATE(S)
looks like the sword is doubled edged.

Why on earth are you quoting DeLay or Hastert, two people who have been driven out of politics because of significant ethical violations?
Is this the best that the Republican convention has to offer?

Ashton you are asking a child to take responsibility for something they know nothing of. I don’t advocate abortion but I am definately pro-choice.

Samantha
Of course you don’t personally advocate abortion but favor a woman’s right to choose (pro choice = abortion).
Isn’t that what you’re supposed to say?

Please don’t continue to bash on Bristol Palin. It is so mean-spirited. We are supposed to be wise adults leading the young, not acting like adolescents ourselves.
The point is an Obama presidency would be much WORSE than ANYTHING our country has EVER experienced:
1–Obama has ties to ACORN —Hugely scary.
2–Obama supports infanticide–allowing babies who survived abortions to die untended, despite the fact some are full or nearly full-term. Shouldn’t our president want to PROTECT young American life? What a bully he is.
3–This one is a no-brainer–Mr. Obama has VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE and would leave the U.S.A vulnerable in so many ways–from terrorist attacks, etc. People criticize Sarah Palin (who has GOVERNING, not LEGISLATING) experience-much more relevant to the office she is seeking. With Obama, America would have 100% chance of an unqualified president.
4–Obama isn’t willing to make decisions. How can you vote ‘present’ instead of ‘yes’ or ‘no’ unless don’t want to be known as deciding either way? That’s a cowardly action.
By the way, Lee Ann Sontheimer Murphy:
you wrote: There is no one “right” situation, no one size fits all experience
With all due respect, that’s just not true. The “right” situation always is to pursue the highest good. The death of a child (as abortion is) is never a highest good. What’s more, giving out birth control (half of which are abortifacient anyway) to teens is never a highest good. It promotes selfishness, self-gratification and degrades the sexual act, which, by virtue of its existence is an accepting and loving act. Sex after marriage is of course the ideal. When that ideal is not met, one does not literally throw out the baby with the bathwater. One picks up the pieces and makes the best of a challenging situation. Why on earth people here keep attacking a 17 year old young lady is beyond me. It’s just a mean distraction tactic meant to draw attention away from Sarah Palin and her remarkable qualifications, experience and values.
As for myself, I can’t wait to see Sarah shine tonight!! :)
. McCain/Palin ’08 Country First

JB, are you kidding me? Obama has been evicerated in the press. No other candidate has had their religion, their heritage nor their patriotism and even citizenship questioned as Obama has. False accusations from his birth certificate to alleged involvement in a Kenyan coup have been widely reported. None of which have shown to have any merit.
Palin is a poor choice because she is under educated and despite having been a mayor of a town with fewer people than attendend the last Cardinal football game and Govenor of a state with fewer people than Memphis, Tennesee. She claims to be against earmarks and I am sure she is, she already got the ones she wanted. I could care less about her bother in law or her daughter.
No one has called her a terrorist, no one has said she is not an american, no one has called her a racist. Obama has been running the largest, and most successful world class campaign in American history. Of the two of them, I’d rather have him in the oval than her. I’m at least reasonably sure he could pick out Iraq and Afghanistan on a globe.

Lemme get this straight… Tom Delay is lecturing Democrats on morals? Dems that have sex out of wedlock are criminals, but for Republicans, this behavior just makes them more human –more like one of us? Twelve years in state and national politics isn’t enough experience for Obama, but less than two years as governor makes Palin (who’s never even had a passport and said just months ago that she doesn’t even know what a VP does) ready to lead? God help us all.

Aston, you’ve made it clear that you believe that your beliefs should be applied to everyone else. Just like the GOP. You’d like the gov’t to tellus what to do and damn the consequences. and pro choice does not equal abortion, as if that were the only choice.

Ah yes — a paragraph of assertions.
Typical of Obama’s followers. Always quick to jump on the bandwagon of today’s KOS topic and smearing anyone who doesn’t agree.

Obama lost his new car smell long ago! He and Biden old clunkers…politics as usual. It’s nice not to see the Obama’s trotting their girls out for photo ops and mag covers anymore, however with the spotlight now off him and family, Mr. Ego might start granting those interviews with EXTRA again.
John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin have 12 kids between them!…3 adopted by John McCain….2 special needs kids, one from each family.
They look like alot of American blended families…..and I keep them all in my prayers, while the Axlerod/Obama camp try and smear Gov. Palin.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN!!!

Hey all you Obama supporters, would you give the SAME abortion advice to Bammie’s Mammie? Who would you be worshipping had she taken your party’s advice & aborted him? Maybe you would have preferred she change her mind about the teen pregnancy & had one of those partial birth abortions he doesn’t ban; you know, the abortion where they wait til 5 mos or later to induce labor, pull the baby out as much as possible, but leaving the feet in (technically, according to the congressional debate a few years ago, the baby’s not born yet) then sticking a rod up the back of it’s neck, without anesthesia, and suck the brains out.
How bout that y’all. That’s what yer fightin for when you vote Obammie.

Jason
How silly can a person be. Now, you change the subject entirely. Is that the only way you believe you can win a point?

aston, how did I change the subject, it was abortion, the point made is that abortion is unacceptable at any stage because you and yours seem to believe that a fertilized egg is the same as a child. and you want to make me legally bound to believe the same. If you don’t understand the argument you aren’t qualified to make a decision.

and Aston, this is the base difference between me and the GOP, I don’t need to win, I don’t need you to think the way I do. That is what freedom is about. That is what the GOP wants to destroy.

Who is going to take care of the infant with Down’s Syndrome, as well as the younger Palin children? Her teamster husband? Hired help? Don’t Republicans believe in parents raising their own children anymore?

Obama has an interview with OReilly tomorrow nite (9/4) on Fox. That’ll be fun. No teleprompter. Obama as himself. *clapping wildly*
PALIN 2008
PALIN for President 2012
PALIN for Re-Election 2016
!!! Maybe the conservative MOVEMENT should get a rich non-USA resident to start a new site: MOVEOVER.org!

Jason,
A ‘fertilized egg’ (at which point a woman wouldn’t even KNOW she is pregnant, btw) is human, no? If not human, then what? Tree? Monkey? (not trying to be insulting to you–just trying to really explain my reasoning) Simple biology dictates that when a sperm and egg unite it creates a HUMAN. Now, you can argue, if you wish, that the ‘soul’ (or whatever you want to call the spirit) of the person may or may not be in that small group of cells, but it cannot be denied that what comes into existence at fertilization is a human, albeit a very YOUNG one :).
If you were driving down the road and thought there might be the possibility (not entirely convinced,mind you, as you are not convinced that abortion at an early stage kills) if you were aware that there MIGHT be a possibility of hitting a child on a bike in a row of parked cars where your vision didn’t reach, but you weren’t sure, wouldn’t you take the precaution and drive SLOWLY, or around, or completely avoid the area where there MIGHT be a child?
I would guess yes, you would. (We all would :) ) so why is this different? If there is a CHANCE (and there’s far more than a chance as far as I can see) that this ‘fertilized egg’ is a young human, then why would we (society) take a chance of destroying that life?
But Jason, the fact is, most abortions DON’T occur with a single fertilized egg. Many many many abortions occur at a time when the baby is not only recognizeable but actually struggles for life after abortion.
I will validate and encourage the choice of many things–import or domestic car is your business (I may have an opinion that you ought to buy domestic, but that choice is not of the significance of the human life one) You can choose whatever kind of lunch you wish. You can decide more important issues too–like whether the government should fund certain programs, or drill in Alaska….those are your opinions and choices. But your (or anyones) choice to ‘swing your fist ends at my face. In other words, your (one’s) ‘Choice’ should not include the ability of whether another should live or die just to make your (again, nothing personal–I should say ‘one’s) life more convenient or easier.
I have carried nine children to term. I have felt them move in my womb. I KNOW there is life early on. I have felt it inside myself. I really hold no rancor towards you-or your political opinions except I get really really upset when people claim to be ‘pro-choice’ because what they are saying is that they support a woman’s decision to kill her child. It’s a decision that hurts women too at a time they need love and support.

HAHAHAHAHAH! Now, according to libs, REPUBLICANS are supposed to stay home and take care of their kids. Not always. We just do like the rich libs, hire NANNIES.
Please, please stop all your hypocrisy. Can you NOT see what you are doing???

Another point: The article states that
Obama and Biden are in favor of comprehensive sexual education.
Why should I trust the government to teach my children about sex? Parents have a primary right to discuss this personal topic with their children and not have ANY political party’s agenda be forced on them. Teach abstinence and if the parents want to teach otherwise at home, of course they are free to do that.. But the Obama/Biden act as though the goverment ‘owns’ our children and can decide better than parents what they need to be told about sex.
I don’t want the lesbian/gay agenda forced upon my six year old. It goes against MY family values. If Obama and Biden got into office we’d see more and more of that agenda too.
Do you want Obama telling your kids about sex? EW. I’d much rather have the pro-abstinence message from the Republicans. If you want to tell your children something else at home, then that would be your perogative. But please let me raise mine the way my husband and I see best.

simple biology does not call the coming together of two gamets human. If even two sperm fertilize the same egg it is likely that that egg will die, should we the charge the near father with murder? Once the egg is sucessfully merged with the sperm, it still needs to get to the uterus or there will still be no pregnancy. By your reckoning a tubular pregnancy should not be terminated as it would be akin to murder. I have a serious problem providing that an egg containing two cells should have the same rights as a fully developed fetus. 12 weeks is the line I draw in the sand for myself. after 12 weeks you lose the option to abort a pregnancy. They call the early stages of cell division after fertilization an embrionic state specifically because it is NOT a human, it is something that has the potential of becoming a human and there are many, many steps along the way where any number of naturally occuring factors can prevent that from happening. during that time, I believe that a woman should have the choice as to whther she wants to make the commitment of having a child or not.

obamamama
I never thought of it that way. You make an excellent point. For those who take the time to understand what you’ve said, that is. I don’t expect every here to ponder much of anything however.

And if you libs knew the real story of Tom Delay, you’d freak. Just another of your Scooter Libbey type indictments. Not surprising because they’re republicans and your side can kill (Teddy kennedy), sexually harass (Bill Clinton), kiss up to terrorists and the Black Liberation Army (Obama), but that’s OK.

OK, so Jason admits that a “fetus” is human. We’re making progress!

you twits, you still think pro-choice is pro abortion. it is about the choice. If I were able to get pregnant, I would not have an abortion, I just don’t need to the govt to tell me that I can’t. I would not counsel anyone to get an abortion, but I would not force my will on them. My opinion is that at 12 weeks enough of the brain stem has been formed that the fetus is a defacto human. You won’t convince me that a joined sperm and egg is the same thing.

Jason, you wrote:
Once the egg is sucessfully merged with the sperm, it still needs to get to the uterus or there will still be no pregnancy.
Actually that’s not true. A pregnancy is simply an egg and sperm uniting–the result is a human embryo (human. yes, human). It doesn’t have to be in the uterus. By your own post you gave the perfect example–a tubular pregnancy is a pregnancy nonetheless.
Actually you bring up a very interesting point. In removing a tubular pregancy your purpose is to save the life of the mother. In doing so the tiny embryo is destroyed. If there were a readily available way to sustain that life then we might be morally obligated to seek that. However, at this point in time there is no way to sustain a removed tubular pregnancy. So the embryo dies not because the doctor and mother are trying to kill it, rather it is because they are trying to save her life and the unfortunate result is the death of the embryo. This is a far cry from disturbing, interrupting, destroying a perfectly healthy embryo, fetus, baby (call the human what you will–they’re just names for the same being in different stages of development)
You wrote: “I believe that a woman should have the choice as to whther she wants to make the commitment of having a child or not”
So do I! But that decision needs to be made before the child is created, not as an afterthought which results in a child’s death. There are no unwanted children. There are thousands of families waiting to adopt. But there are people whose hearts do not hold love. That is the problem. Also, there is fear. Fear is one main cause of abortion. To dispel fear we need to treat women with love and respect the life they carry within them.
Some men say that abortion is a woman’s ‘choice’. Often that just allows them to take advantage of her with the belief she can always ‘exercise her choice’ if need be.
I miscarried in the 10th week. I saw on an ultrasound a tiny embryo with little arms. I watched a beating heart. I was sad for weeks over the loss of my child. ARe you saying my child was not human, that I had nothing to mourn?
A human exists from the moment of conception.

type in fetal development on google and watch the You Tube video. Amazing. Pay attention to 8 -12 weeks.

and when you watch that, think about the baby being sucked out, limbs torn, body demolished (while it can feel everything) and say, with all your HEART, YEAH! WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KILL THAT BABY.
There’s no reason why adoption cannot be an option and why teens can’t be free to have their babies (which many do) and instead of a “choice” to flush them or put them in the trash, bring them to an adoption center, no questions asked, for a family to adopt. Now, what’s wrong with that option?
Abortion is simply legal murder.

Yes obamama1 (still curious about your name, though :) ) I agree. :) for the ‘pro-choice’ here, why are you so upset about Bristol Palin’s ‘choice’ to give life to her child? By your reasoning, any ‘choice’ is ok, so why not this one?
Bristol is willing to suffer for her child’s life (by putting up with all this criticism–you realize you’re persecuting the young lady) and while she made the mistake of premarital sex (not of not using birth control as you would find the greater ‘sin’) she shows us all that life is valuable even at an unborn age. I think she is showing a lot of young teens who find themselves in her situation (pregnant and unmarried) that they don’t have to be forced to have abortions–that they can choose life and that that is a good, valid ‘choice’.

Sarah has EXECTUTIVE experience *running a government* (something NONE of the other candidates can actually boast, even John McCain as Governor of Alaska and got there by defeating the *incumbent* Republican Governor, who was definitely part of the “old school” and who WAS very much in the pocket of the big oil companies. We in Alaska wanted change – and we got it in the person of Sarah Palin!
Sarah Palin is everything she looks to be and more. Her approval rating as Governor of Alaska has been as high as 95% and is currently leveled out consistently in the upper 80 percentile throughout the state (and in both parties) – the HIGHEST approval rating of ANY sitting Governor.

Tom DeLay???? They haven’t figured out if he’s guilty or not yet? If I stole a Snickers from a 7-11 my life wouldn’t be worth two cents.
Rather than lying low and be thankful he’s not making license plates and answering to some old guy they have to call “Captain” he’s sticking his nose into an already outrageous non-scandal. Thanks, Tom, but no thanks.
I guess he figures Bush will give him a pardon. Maybe he and Roger Clinton, Jr. should form the “Executive Pardons Saved Our Sorry Butts Society”.

Okay, rather than teaching abstinence or sex ed why not just not teach anything at all that way no one’s views would b forced on anyone else? Just a thought! Also, adoption agencies are already crowed with unwanted babies/children as it is so really while I am NOT saying I would abort a child why not give the woman the right to choose what she wants to do. I mean if I was raped I would totally want to have the option or abortion because in that case it would be unwanted because I would not want to have a reminder of that horrendous experience. Oh yea, and actually a lot of times with adoption the child may not know anything about their past family history for illnesses either(like what has happened REPEATEDLY with my mother)and I would NEVER want any child to go through that you know.
Oh yea, SARAH PALIN DOESN’T BELIEVE IN PROTECTING WILDLIFE INCLUDING THE POLAR BEARS!!!!! I am a STRONG believer in animal rights and protecting them from exstinction, etc. so I had to point that out to you all too!!!

I am a great grand mother,spirit-filled christian with a cph.d,a pro-lifer and an Obamacan ( switch from rep.)when he said we should lower abortions by addressing some of a woman fears like,health care,understanding baby sick leave,school home work while having a sick baby ,school leave for expecting mother that she wouldn’t have to start all over, jobs with equal pay ,
make easier to adopt, we have more abortion clinics than homes for pregnant woman.we should advocate for mothers to change their minds by having more education for men on how and why to love your baby.I have small school and I give the best care to low income families. I am talking to my friends and sharing ideas about this issue.thank
God.
extra pay when school is out and mothers have to work. it also caused me to remember an article I read that 48% of women who are murdered are pregnant. If the man is famous we hear about this but if he is not there is a woman dead who told her lover or husband she was pregnant. I think we should dig these women up and ask them to tell their stories. I believe we should have more places for women to flee for their lives. I finally see somethings that I didn’t see. I am still pro life but! now I can see more mercy and grace.