Hillary Campaigns in Florida for Obama, but Will She Take On Palin?

No, and Neither will Charlie Gibson, who I suspect will give a fluff interview held over two days, don’t ask the right questions, don’t get the second day interview.

She does NOT need to take on PALIN….Palin is not running for Preisdent, McCain is….She will take on McCain
McCain is a LIAR and Palin is even more of a LIAR but MSM doesn’t bother to report on it, they like negative on BLACK people ONLY

Hillary has to much class to be Obama’s attack dog. She knows that she will be running again in ’12 and doesn’t want to anything to hurt herself. Obama needs to remember “we are the ones they wern’t expecting”! Go PUMA’s!!!!!

Who let the air out of Obama’s tires?

A question Hillary should be asked “Why didn’t obama pick you, much less vet you as VP?”

Hillary and Bill have got to be laughing their butts off.
Palin in her speech said everything Hillary really wanted to say about Obama but couldn’t.
Hillary knew all along Obama was a phony that is totally unqualified to be president.
She must think it is too funny that once again BO needs her to save him.
Biden better watch his back–he just may get dumped.

And there are Hillary supporters who feel that she doesn’t need to expose herself to or be responsible for the cleaning up after the mistakes of yet another man, Senator Obama…a man who put his ego above his party and its ability to win the election when he refused to choose her as his running mate.
And since it is Joe Biden who is running against Palin, it is Biden who should take Palin on…not Obama, the presidential candidate, and not Hillary Clinton, no candidate at all.
Two women going at each other would surely amuse the male punditry, but it would hardly serve American women.
The party made its choice. Live with it.
Halli Casser-Jayne

I dont think Hillary needs to waste anytime on Palin, we all know exactly what Palin is.
Jen

Hilary is going to dog Palin.She has a reputation that is in risk of being lost by a woman whom Hilary would love to battle and she refuses to give those 18 million.Hilary is playing you all for dumb!.She has already directly dissed Palin and her anger was visibly shown as videotape on CNN just minutes ago show her looking frustrated toward Palins attempts while consistently saying Palin is not for change.Hilary is preparing for war.With an Obama loss much faith will be lost in american politics because worldwide he remains much more popular than Palin by a large degree due to his very receptive politics views.When Palins celebrity dies down and they look into her background more and more the disappointment will occur even more and people are already starting to see the medias attempt to portray her as large and in charge a joke,for she has only energized the republican base.

Palin, Guliani, Huckabee, Thompson ripped Obama to shreds.
They made Obama’s so called “attack dogs” look like fluffy little kittens.
I’m sure it made Hillary’s night.
She should tell BO to fend for himself.

As long as Clinton doesn’t go after Palin directly, her voters will feel more inclined to vote for Palin. Knowing this, she needs to go after Palin to avoid being blamed for an Obama loss, if it happens.

Palin is not running for president; just for poster child of radical right. Hillary is right to go after the issues.

Republicans love their country… they just hate half the people in it.

So Im wondering What My Girl Sarah has been up to., McCain needs to let the Media Get access to his VP candidate. Thats lame to hide your VP candidate away from the Media. The Only Place you can find Info about Palin is on the Web, Here is some sites Ive been able to find.
This site has everything about her scandals, Levi the Boy Friend, what really happen with ebay plane. http://www.hotpres.com
This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?
This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com
Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Hillary is not dumb enough to be the attack dog. She’s in a good place right now and she isn’t going to blow her future chances at being President.

McCain keeps trying to convince us that he is not like Bush. Then he picks a VP who is more like Bush than anyone! Sick of the whole bunch

hillary clinton can’t possibly respect someone like palin. probably finds her nomination as insulting to women as the rest of us do. but she probably also knows that palin’s success is a threat to her. maybe she figures palin will eventually hang herself.

Also sick and tired of the whiners who claim Hillary was “treated badly.” What the hell? SHE LOST! If it was a man running would the whiners claim he was “treated badly?”

Obama has nothing new to offer. He’d better come up with something in a hurry because it will only get worse for him if he doesn’t.

I don’t care what Hillary has to say about Palin – good or bad. I’m a longtime Democrat, voting since 1972. I’m voting against Obama because I don’t want to spend the next eight years listening to Michelle Obama whine about my country.
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Maudie, if you are a longtime Democrat, then you must share the philosophy of the Democratic Party. To vote for someone whose philosophy is diametrically opposed to yours is utterly ignorant.

Hillary, don’t bother…
Because Obama branded you and your husband racists, you will never win a national election. That is a fact. You will never win the black vote again. done. fin.

McCain = death to the middle-class

Most people have already decided who they will vote for in November.
So, why all this discord about the Republicans or Democrats?
Just vote!

Stop Whining you all losers that need Hillary to help Barrak Husein Obama, She lost He won, why in the hell Obama needs her for.. Grow up homies.

Clarice Feldman:
Sunday Biden says life begins at conception. Over the weekend Obama said he’ll not rescind the Bush tax cuts if the economy remained in trouble. Earlier on O’Reilly he said the surge did work.
Backtracking on the surge, taxes and abortion. Hmm. Next thing you know Obama and Biden will start campaigning in red open-toed shoes and frameless glasses.

Palin and McCain have loud mouth, do nothing Biden and the great communicator,oops, I mean the great community organizer Obama in a panic.This pair beats a full house.Biden”s foreign policy in regards to Iraq, split it up like a piece of fruit. What an idiot. Obama the community organizer, never explains what that is. I know exactly what it is. Sharpton and Jackson have been doing community organizing for years.They go into a community that has problems and they organize riots and infernos.Biden and Obama don’t even have the guts to challenge Palin, they need to send women”Hillary” to do it for them. How will those two liars and phonies deal with Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Russia. I guess those gutless wonders would send their women again.Their linking of McCain to Bush is getting old, and people are not buying it.That is all they have.Biden and Obama are the biggest frauds in the country. McCain and Palin win BIG!!!!!!!!!!

If McCain wins our free fall will pick up speed and the end of the U.S.A will come to an end faster. Everyone that votes for this scary Republican ticket is voting for America’s death.

VP is selected to attack the opposing Predidential candidate. It is Biden’s job to attack McCain and Palin’s job to attack Obama. Obama can say that Palin is lacking in experience compared to McCain but that turns on him since she has more experience than Obama. McCain made a perfect pick for VP while Obama made a poor choice since Hillary was more qualified than him. Biden comes off as a nice guy but if Hillary was not going to be chosen because she voted for the war and was part of the establishment then avoiding Hillary to choose Biden was foolish and will now cost Obama the election for sure. Today McCain leads in the polls and it is not October yet……wait for the October surprise. As I have said all the way through the primary, if the DNC nominated Obama, the result will be a loss in a year when democrats had to be trying to lose in order to lose. My prediction is that McCain will carry at least 45 states….if not more. Obama is a fool.
McCain/Palin 2008 and HILLARY 2012

I agree with Deefrom Texas. For Dems, if you would like to see Obama win, then get out and vote. Democrats have the numbers – ‘the only thing they have to fear is fear itself’ and the only way they will not win is if they do not vote. For GOP: same – shut the mouth and pull your lever. November 4th will be the deciding factor, not what is said on these boards. Although, it is a good release for frustrations and sharing thoughts, most of the boards come down to tearing everyone and everything apart. But that is America – almost 300 million people and 300 million opinions – and that is freedom of speech.

As a Clinton voter my comment to Obama
supporters is Obama picked Biden. “GET OVER IT”.

Obama does not have a bipartisian record. He does not cross the aisles. Obama has voted with the dems 97% of the time in his last 3 years in the Senate.
This isn’t change we can believe in.

@sally:
Sexism? You mean like the good ol’ boy Republicans here in NC that want to vote Palin just because she is “boneable”? Palin’s buttons at the convention said she is “The HOT VP from the coolest state”. Nah, that’s not sexist, that’s sexy!
You’re being used. Have fun with that.

You know what she attack Obama more then any other person and I am sick of hearing he did her wrong he never got negative until she started slinging the crap and now McCain is using it against Obame so tell me who did in who????She won’t attack her she don’t have the guts to take on another woman.She is half Obama and you can tell with her speeches.She is hoping he gets beat and she will run in 12….

Obama votes 98% of the time with Pelosi, Reid, Dean.
And that is supposed to comfort us?
With their 9% approval rating?
So those rich people that worked hard all their lives will now have to take care of those that didn’t.
And Obama will give free health insurance to 47 million even illegals?
Give $1,000 carrot to everyone even those that don’t pay taxes.
Wake up America!

Please keep in mind that Hillary and other supporters have been asked NOT to attack Palin at this point in time. That’s because Obama does not want to see a poll reversal that can be attributed to Hillary. Too bad, it is the only way he could win. Biden is the consummate insider so he is not in a position to attack her. So far, Biden and Obama have been walking around complimenting her. How stupid of a campaign tactic is that?

Females do what needs to be done while males are sitting around thinking about it.
The Clinton’s need to regain respect and speak what they really think of Obama like Bill once did “Chicago thug”. Now they are both two faced and it’s not going to work in 2012 they lost it.

I’m an undecided female Florida voter, a registered Democrat. The DNC abandoned Florida democrats and treated Hillary Clinton like dirt — as did the media. Why should she lift a finger to help Obama in any way? If Obama is so darn wonderful, why would he need her help? I can’t say that McCain’s VP selection influences my vote much, if at all. I think Palin is a politician, just like all of them. I do think that Obama’s camp is shaken about how to deal with her popularity — and Palin is popular here in Florida. I’ve heard and seen that, even among hard-line feminists like my Mom and her friends (women whom came up in the 60s and early 70s –women whom actually fought for women’s rights and the right to choose). They’re angered at the sexism directed towards Palin, especially about her kids and her “amazing” ability to hold a job in spite of being a mother. (Has anybody noticed that Obama has young children and he’s vying for #1 spot not #2? Why are her children more important than Obama’s children? It’s ridiculous.) Obama’s camp should avoid discussing Palin at all — just discuss the isses, period. Also note this: those of us who’re pro-choice at not threatened by McCain or Palin’s pro-life stance. We don’t feel that reproductive rights are the biggist issue right now. We’re concerned about access to healthcare for the poor, elderly, and middle-income families; the struggling economy; U.S. energy independence alternatives; dealing with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan effectively. There’s no easy way out now; we need somebody who has a clue and Obama doesn’t at this point. He’s so vague! I read his positions over and over again and his nice words show no direction, no plan, nothing really – the Emperor’s New Clothes. He’s as naked as a jay bird if you ask me. Obama needs to come up with concrete direction now and forget the smoke & mirrors, the fancy Greek columns, yuck. He has my complete attention so now show me if there’s a man behind the curtain. Hillary can’t help him; Obama needs to help himself now. That is, if wants my vote.

One thing the Republicans can attest to is immorality. Every last one, has their own testimony. McCain, Giuliani infidelity and now Palin. As a Governor, what was she teaching her daughter! Obliviously, sex education was not on list. If she can’t manage her household, how in the Hell will she be able to assist in running the Country. Are we so eager to lower our standards in order to avoid putting a Africian American, in the White House? This just shows that the Republicans are only interested in what is “right” when it refers to someone else.

Palin is a HUGE QUESTION MARK.
Regardless of how much Hannity and the Foxes scream “sexist”
we will vet her.
The seem to have fell in love without even knowing her. The fact that she can serve up some red meat is all they need i guess.

Nothing gives me more joy than to see MSNBC Obberman(whatever) and disgusting Chris Matthews taken off the political TV commentator spots. Yea! for People Power.
Now let’s take down that human waste take too much space on Earth Ophra.
Hillary don’t do Obama’s dirty work for him. Don’t stoop down to that racist, sexist unAmerican trash. We look up to you and you are what we need running the Senate, not that know-nothing barbie Palosi.
Vote McCain/Palin/Hillary. Honor and Country. Viva PUMA

Clinton is right to stay on the issues. It is for others to say how extremist Palin is.

For all of you who are still ###### off about who Obama selected as a VP…please know that he didn’t select anyone….the same as McCain. Much thought goes into selecting a VP from many different people, who look at many different issues…not just one. This is politics people…not your elementary school playground. If you want to pout and fold your arms in anger…take it somewhere else. No one cares about you being mad. Vote for the best person but not as “payback” because you are upset about a process you obviously know litle about little about. Secondly, are you 100% sure that Hillary wanted the job?

Hillary Smith:
In this world America is loosing its influence, because the US ties up its resources in a stupid war and because it does not give others any respect. The US cannot increase its influence by engaging other countries in war but rather by focusing on its own future: economy, education and health care.
Also diplomacy is less expensive, but of course a war can fill up wealthy republican pockets faster. So what honest middle class republicans are really fighting for is the interest of the wealthy ones, and I am not even surprised because that is what poor education leads to: voting against your own interest.

Palin gave one speech that was mostly written by a Bush speechwriter, before she was even picked. America can’t afford this empty BS any more. We desperately need leaders who can hit the ground and clean up the mess and get America rolling again. There are real issues and very serious problems that need to be fixed. Issues, Issues, Issues.

Hang on Hillary–if you really want to be VP.
If Obama keeps tanking in the polls Biden will suddenly have a medical reason to withdraw.
Don’t do it Hillary–he didn’t have the backbone to chose you. Let him fend for himself.

Everything exactly as predicted: Obama’s supporters are beating him.
All McCain has to do is keep telling the voters that he hears them, understands what they need and is willing to fight in Washington to get it done. The Obama supporters will continue to wallow in the Great Get Evens of race, gender and age, and in so doing, the Obama campaign comes off as thugs.
What Palin introduced was not hot body politics. Obama did that. She introduced the image of courage, of a woman strong enough to fight and smart enough to win.
People like Palin. That’s hard to overcome. Obama’s supporters have been scaring people. That’s hard to forget.
This has always been the critical weakness of Axelrod/Plouffe’s strategy: it is based on emotional vectoring, using symbolism to push the electorate toward their candidate while pulling them away from the other candidate. They forget or do not know how rock star media is made and destroyed in a single turn of the wheel. Sic transit gloria, or in English, fame is fleeting.
Meanwhile, the engine of exchange between the US and China, the mortage bond industry, is melting before our eyes while our pundit celebrities are enraged on TV because their choice is not respected.
When the journalist becomes the star, something bad has happened, but it is self-correcting because they are subject to the same cycle of new-different-young and don’t be wrong at the right time or right at the wrong time.
This election has outed the hoax of the celebrity politician as natural leader.

Obama and Biden have to understand that republicans have played the same dirty tactics against Gore and Kerry and they have won, there is nothing better than going dirty too, that is the way it should be. After exploiting fear and war in Georgia and Irak, RNC, McCain and Palin are exploiting the misfortunes of Palin’s family: a son with Dawn syndrome and a teenage daughter, that is how low they can go. God save America from McPalin. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA/BIDEN08.

Look….McCain chose her;
you didn’t, so you can argue all you want about her kids, her sex, her whole private life (which is none of your business or mine anyway)…..
but how come you didn’t argue the same thing when Hillary was running for the #1 spot eh????
yeah…..you people out there just want something to bich about……
Hillary is done for now, so she can either go home and wait for the grandkiddies to come, or stay on the “hot seat” in the Senate, and COOL OFF!

Posted by: Mrs.Phoenix | Sep 8, 2008 10:04:42 AM
You are right! bho does not have any long time friends to vouch for his character. those he has associated with for any length of time include: ayers and dorhn, wright, rezko, etc.
Few question mccains character. actually, clinton, biden, kerry(he asked him to be his vp in 2004), daschle, kennedy,etc, have all spoken positively about mccain…

John McCain and Sarah Palin will be a GREAT!!! The Dems are so desperate their hate campaign has escalated into an unbelievable terror attack on anyone who would not agree with them. It is most frightening! They are so hateful they even turn on their own party members who disagree, ask questions or think for themselves. The Dems idea of Freedom is you must accept anything and anyone they deem no matter what their elected choice says, does or whoever they associate with. You must embrace them even of it isn’t good for you, if you don’t, they will threaten, chastise and terrorize you. You must blindly believe, there is no room for individual thinking. The Party is what you live for and must sacrifice everything you have for the Party.
Their idea of reaching out has turned into a foot on your neck to succumb you lest you not follow our ways. We do not do what’s good for the country, but what we want. They do not compromise because gloating over others is what they live for. If this current party of Democrats prevail, you can throw away the National Anthem, The American Flag, the Constitution and the Presidential Seal, because they will all be replaced by the Obamanation with the Obama logo

“Lady, if BO loses in November, do you really believe HIS supporters will forgive HER supporters and support her in the 2012 primaries?”
If BO loses, his supporters won’t matter in 2012 because there won’t be any. Go out and see how many W stickers there are left. Once a brand goes bad, it goes straight to the charity dumpster.
You learned absolutely nothing from the Clinton’s and that is why you are down in the polls and possibly heading for a landslide defeat.

Hillary, don’t bother…
Because Obama branded you and your husband racists, you will never win a national election. That is a fact. You will never win the black vote again. done. fin.
Posted by: roddy
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Hillary will win in 2012 because the 12% blacks will have a choice between Hillary and Sarah Palin….McCain will only serve one term. And it is possible that the Republicans will not nominate Palin for President, we shall see………In either case all democrats will have learned the lesson of what happens when you falsly label a civil rights worker as a racist as well as what happens when you use sexist ploys to beat the more qualified woman…..you get a Republican. If that is what they want then good for them and go vote Republican because the reality is that we do not need any more fools of any color in the democratic party. This election of McCain will bring back equal rights and women’s rights to the democratic party very quickly….simply because it was the race baiting and sexist ploys that allowed Obama to be nominated by the slimist of margins…..the convention was set up with help from Hillary to allow her elected delegates to vote Obama……she did not have to do that. Blacks should know that Obama used fruad to get nominated by falsly labeling the Clinton’s racist and if anything the blacks are not dumb enough to believe Obama trash, they just wanted a black nominated…..but he will lose. We should also see the end of Pelosi, Dean and Reid along with all Senators and Governors that endorsed Obama when their states voted for Hillary like in MA. September 16 is primary day for MA and I encourage all MA voters to vote NO to John Kerry and yes to Ed O’Rieley. In fact there are going to be some serious loss’ by elected blacks because of Obama like in MA where no matter what the Gov. Duval Patrick does, he will lose next election for endorsing Obama over the voters pick of Hillary.
Hillary agreed to campaign for Obama and that means her job is to talk about the issues Obama wants to promote, if we can get past his “hope” and “Change” what slogans. It is not her job and I am sure she will not slander another woman with Obama tactics. However if Obama does not campaign for Hillary in 2012 then he will never again win his US Senate seat either……I will start a campaign against him, and run ads over and over no matter who is running against him if he does not campaign very hard for Hillary in 2012.

Interesting?? They want Hilary to play the gendar card? I thought you libs were all for woman equal rights, but is that only when they do not get in the way?
Why can’t Obama campaign as if she is a candidate not a woman candidate, oh thats right he loves playing the race and gendar card, he used sexism against Hilary and not wants Hilary to use it against Palin!
If Hilary does she is done politically, because it will come back to bite (no pun intended)
Jake wheres the post for the suit going forward for Obama to prove his citizenship in PA. He is unable to provide a real birth Certificate and the Democrat leader in PA is bringing him to Federal court to provide true info!!

The Palin hype is all about nothing the republicans spin doctors and talk radio. Just wait and see how Palin handle reportors and a news conference. Palin and McCain cannot erase the Bush years in office with a convention speech, bad economy, housing in a tail spin Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac on the ropes government step in, war still raging on two fronts, banking, gas around over 3 dollar a gallon, and
America’s image in the world at a all time low.
“McCain best days are still behind him”

“Him passing over Hillary for Biden was a complete ego move”.
Obama told Hillary to get back in the kitchen. She has more knowledge now than Obama & Biden will ever have.
Palin, Cindy and Hillary have accomplished a lot for our country what has Michelle accomplished besides running down our country. Michelle couldn’t stand it when Hillary was talking about her achievements all you could see was hate. Is this what we need as a First Lady?

Hillary has to enjoy Obama’s desperation over the past four days.
-he went on O’Reilly
-he admitted the surge worked
-Biden said life begins at conception
-Obama says he won’t change Bush tax cuts
-Obama admits “above my paygrade” was a flip response
Pure panicked desperation.

What case can Clinton make against Palin? That she is inexperienced? Have we forgotten that Palin has more experience that Obama? So if Clinton brings that up she will only be reminding voters of how inexperienced Obama is. Plus, Clinton does not believe Obama belongs in this race at all “Sen McCain brings a lifetime of experience, I bring a lifetime of experience into this race, Sen. Obama brings a speech he gave in 2004″. And she was right. A speech is what he started with, and now he has a series of them. The strongest case against Obama is Obama himself, so not even a master like Clinton can do anything to ease that. Remember, only half of America is stupid, the other half is not.

Do people actually realize that McCain’s investigation of Abramoff was actually driven by revenge? Payback?
Abramoff had financed the people who had smeared him in the 2000 primary. It had nothing to do with ‘cleaning’ Washington, it was pure payback.
The same was true for his much touted McCain-Feingold Bill: Payback. Revenge. Nothing more.

does america know that biden is being wined and dined by the lobbyists of the iranian mullahs? is that the foreign policy experience democrats talk about. have you examined his voting record when it comes to iran?

Bush’s tax cuts will be repealed, don’t worry. The only thing Obama said that he might *delay* it when the economy is in a recession. Obama has no plans to extend the Bush tax cuts *beyond* their expiration date.
But it’s nice to know that she too realizes that the tax cuts for the Rich – which McCains wants to extend – will be desastrous for the budget deficit and the Federal Debt.

Belle Starr: “cCain bucked the BushCons on “torture”, and everything that goes with it.”
No he didn’t. The CIA was doing the torturing, the CIA is STILL allowed to do the torturing. That was the deal McCain made with Bush.
All McCain did was Grandstanding. Nothing changed in the end.

Sarah Palin’s Wasilla record:
* Tax collection increased 38%
* Government expenditures up 33%
* Left town in $26 million in debt
* Remodeled office twice in six years
* Bullied local librarian

Hillary help Obama? Puh-leeeeze, she is just going through the motions to cover any future finger pointing from Dems.
If Hillary at all criticizes Palin some Obama Democrat will charge that her attacks were as “sexist” as the one’s Obama & Co. did on Hillary.
Plus this is the headline Hillary wants to read:
Clinton vs. Palin 2012.

Why are all those socialists who trashed Hillary Clinton now so eager to have her rescue the sinking blowhard? I think it’s called discontinuous thinking.

HILLARY DON’T DO IT!!!! WHAT DID OBAMA DO FOR YOU, THE STRONGEST, BRIGHTEST, BEST CANDIDATE? And Bill, ask him and give BO the bird, like he did you! Take a long vacation, get sick and beg off, but don’t kick Palin in the teeth like they did you!
I want a Palin vs. Hillary race in 2012 (as McCain only wants one term).
Please Hillary you owe B. NOTHING.

Sally,
you left out obama admitted his “muslim faith”

Hillary knows alot of her supporters have gone over to Palin, so why would she slam her and risk getting them back in 2012? And she needs to stay focused on the issues between the two Prez. candidates…..which at this point who cares…McCan is the man! BO could promise me a pony and I wouldn’t vote for him.
Morris on FOX said long ago, before Palin, this is McCain’s to win as a candidate, and Obama’s to win as a Party….seems the Party of Tolenence blew it again.
McCAIN/PALIN, was a proud Hill supporter

As we saw in the primaries, no matter what they said, black voters voted for Obama at over 90%. Such a figure suggests that white women will do the same for Sarah Palin, and they will. Obama and his wife were just to arrogant when they chose to snub Hillary Clinton. Now, all the Dems will get from the Clintons is lip service and token support. Who would have thought that Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin would decide this presidential election…

I can point to hundreds of articles that say exactly the same. All from renowned journalists who can read fine print.
The ‘Deal’ McCain had to make was to allow the CIA from continuing to torture AND to give them legal cover.
It’s Bush, Cheney, and the CIA who won in the end. Because they could continue to do what they were doing all along.

Willem van Oranje
I could site a couple of articles about Obama’s support of Infanticide.

dl: “I suppose you’d believe that too.”
No. Because I know how to rebut it.
You can’t about the socalled ‘Deal’.

The risk John McCain took in selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate is comparable to the 72-year-old ex-fighter pilot knocking back two shots and flying his A-4 under the Golden Gate Bridge.
McCain’s choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his co-pilot was the biggest gamble in presidential history.
As of now, it is paying off, big-time.
The sensational selection in Dayton, Ohio, stepped all over the big story from Denver – Obama’s powerful address to 85,000 cheering folks in Mile High Stadium, and 35 million nationally, a speech that vaulted him from a 2-point deficit early in the week to an 8-point margin.
Obama had never before reached 49 percent against McCain.
As the Democrats were being rudely stepped on, however, Palin ignited an explosion of enthusiasm among conservatives, evangelicals, traditional Catholics, gun owners and right to lifers not seen in decades.
By passing over his friends Joe Lieberman and Tom Ridge, and picking Palin, McCain has given himself a fighting chance of winning the White House that, before Friday morning, seemed to be slipping away.
Indeed, the bristling reaction on the left testifies to Democrat fears that the choice of Palin could indeed be a game-changer in 2008.
Liberals howl that Palin has no experience, no qualifications to be president of the United States.
But the lady has more executive experience than McCain, Joe Biden and Obama put together.
None of them has ever started or run a business as Palin did.
None of them has run a giant state like Alaska, which is larger than California and Texas put together.
And though Alaska is not populous, Gov. Palin has as many constituents as Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden.
She has no foreign policy experience, we are told.
And though Alaska’s neighbors are Canada and Russia, the point is valid.
But from the day she takes office, Palin will get daily briefings and sit on the National Security Council with the president and secretaries of state, treasury and defense.
She will be up to speed in her first year.
And her experience as governor of Alaska, dealing with the oil industry and pipeline agreements with Canada, certainly compares favorably with that of Barack Obama, a community organizer who dealt in the mommy issues of food stamps and rent subsidies.
Where Obama has poodled along with the Daley Machine, Palin routed the Republican establishment, challenging and ousting a sitting GOP governor before defeating a former Democratic governor to become the first female and youngest governor in state history.
For his boldness in choosing Palin, McCain deserves enormous credit.
He has made an extraordinary gesture to conservatives and the party base, offering his old antagonists a partner’s share in his presidency.
And his decision is likely to be rewarded with a massive and enthusiastic turnout for the McCain-Palin ticket.
Rarely has there been such an outburst of enthusiasm on the right.
In choosing Palin, McCain may also have changed the course of history as much as Ike did with his choice of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan did with his choice of George H.W. Bush.
For should this ticket win, Palin will eclipse every other Republican as heir apparent to the presidency and will have her own power base among lifers, evangelicals, gun folks and conservatives – wholly independent of President McCain.
A traditional conservative on social issues, Palin has become, overnight, the most priceless political asset the movement has.
Look for the neocons to move with all deliberate speed to take her into their camp by pressing upon her advisers and staff, and steering her into the AEI-Weekly Standard-War Party orbit.
Indeed, if McCain defeats Obama, 2012 could see women on both national tickets, given McCain’s age and the possibility he intends to serve a single term, women at the top of both – Sarah vs. Hillary.
The arrival of Palin on the national scene, with her youth, charisma and vitality, probably also portends a changing of the guard in Washington.
With Republicans having zero chance of capturing either House, and but a slim chance of avoiding losses in both, a Vice President Palin, with her reputation as a rebel and reformer, would surely inspire similar revolts in the Republican caucuses.
As Thomas Jefferson said, from time to time, a little rebellion in the political world is as necessary as storms in the physical.
The Palin nomination could backfire, but it is hard to see how.
She has passed her first test, her introduction to the nation, with wit and grace.
And the Obama-Biden ticket, having already alienated millions of women with the disrespecting of Hillary, is unlikely to start attacking another woman whose sole offense is that she had just been given the chance to break the glass ceiling at the national level.
Her nomination, which will bring the Republican right home, also frees up McCain to appeal to moderates and liberals, which has long been his stock in trade.
With his selection of Sarah Palin, John McCain has not only shaken up this election, he may have helped shape the future of the United States – and much for the better.
Anybody But Obama…

“The proposal would make the core protections of Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions irrelevant and unenforceable. It deliberately provides a ‘get out of jail free card’ to the administration’s top torture officials, and backdates that card nine years.
“Also under the proposal, the president would have the authority to declare what is — and what is not — a grave breach of the War Crimes Act, making the president his own judge and jury. This provision would give him unilateral authority to declare certain torture and abuse legal and sound. In a telling move, during a call with reporters today, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley would not even answer a question about whether waterboarding would be permitted under the agreement.
“The agreement would also violate time-honored American due process standards by permitting the use of evidence coerced through cruel and abusive treatment. We urge lawmakers to stand firm in their commitment to American values and reject this charade of a compromise.”
Adds the Washington Post editorial page:
“In effect, the agreement means that U.S. violations of international human rights law can continue as long as Mr. Bush is president, with Congress’s tacit assent.”
In the end, McCain got loads of admiring press coverage. And Bush got almost everything he wanted.

Obama is wrapping his lips around every tire valve he can find to inflate the tires and solve the energy problem. It’s amazing what a bag of hot air can accomplish!

Mommy Hillary owes Obama and his supporters “nothing, nada, zip”, to quote from some speech I heard last week. If Obama loses, it is not Mommy Hillary’s fault, the DNC and Obama made there views of Hillary very clear during the primaries. Pelosi, Dean, Kerry, and Richardson can kiss her a$$ as far as I’m am concerned. Palin has shown more respect to Hillary than the DNC’s motley crue have. You break it , you bought it….period.

I heard a pundit say that in a soft economy it actually hurts Obama and voters are more inclined to go with a sure thing, McCain. Makes sense to me. I don’t want BO upping my taxes to pay for his socialized more government American. Keep my freedoms….vote McCain/Palin. McCain is going to appoint Republicans AND DEMOCRATS in his cabinet….he said the best and the brightest and if any are wealthy, they will have to accept $1 a year salary…McCain is the unifier….Obama is divisive…..oh and inexperienced, and REALLY LACKING IN JUDGEMENT (Wright, Ayers, Rezko).

Obama and his motley DNC crue of Pelosi, Dean, Reid, and Kerry can “bite it”. Hillary owes them “nothing..nada…zip”.

Why don’t Obama send his biggest surrogate & sponsor like Nancy Pelosi or Donna Brazile?
They are female. They can do the dirty job for Obama.
Hillary was not worthy to be on Obama’s ticket. Surely she’s not worthy to do the dirty job for Obama.

It’s in Hillary’s best interest to campaign for Obama.

Many bad losers are still crowding these blogs, or GOP losers portraying themselves as Hillary losers.
Let me guarantee you, as someone who worked for the Clinton campaign, that all THREE Clintons are wholeheartedly supportive of Barack Obama in the Presidential election.
Don’t let any misers fool you.
BTW the Clintons have been abundantly clear about their great support during the Democratic Convention.
The rest is lies and spins.

And Palin’s Flying Monkeys Brigade is in full Combat Mode.
Why am I reminded of 1933?

Since the good ‘ol boy network is alive and well in democrat land, is it any surprise that Hillary supporters think with their brains and not their family jewels? Hmm. Barbie, does that make the chest pumping men feel stronger? Truth is that women represent power…and the reason men are so visceral to a woman running this country is out of fear. As a little boy, mom had all the power. And as a married man, your wife has all the power. Now we have to deal with this as leader of the free world? It’s just too much for us to bear isn’t it guys? Be honest. You can’t stand the fact that a woman is in charge…it eviscerates you doesn’t it? Almost like a rape. And so BO did we had to…he put an insider on the ticket…
Shore up his weaknesses. Biden…change? Twenty-six years in the Senate…what change does that represent? Consistent messaging on BO’s part. So if I’m voting for character I want someone who’s consistent.
I also want someone who’s strategic. BO fails, McCain wins.
I want someone bi-partisan. Who’s demonstrated that? BO fails, McCains wins.
I want someone who’s going to reform the BS and wasteful spending…
Who’s demonstrated that? BO fails, McCain wins.
I want someone who’s going to change the future of this country…
Who’s demonstrated that? Neither.
Now what am I going to do? I don’t know. I guess I’ll go back and look at character. I’ll evaluate their ability to be put good people around them…and then I’ll keep evaluating what they do and say. I’ll evaluate their relationships with people.

Greta… yeah, sure, whatever you say. Why doesn’t Pelosi go after Palin? Why?

Willey van Orange…I am reminded of 1933 also, but I think we are seeing Obama as “The Tin Man”

Yes, I am better off now than I was when Bush took office. My expenses eat up only half of my income but if Obama gets into office, my surplus will be eaten away by higher taxes. Obama needs to go back and study economics 101 and 102. Small businesses furnish the majority of the jobs and if over-taxed, will close. Individuals with extra cash invest in businesses that furnish jobs and pay reasonable taxes.
No, Obama has been running his big mouth, saying a lot of words, making empty promises but has no real or viable solutions to anything unless he can use more tax money for worthless causes–like his Trinity Church received. Seems, he has spent a million dollars a day since he has been a Senator for causes that only help a few selected people.
HOPE AND CHANGE are his key words, it should be RESPONSIBILITY starting with himself. He is as fake as those styrofoam Greek columns on his stage.

Hahahah.
I just saw footage from a McCain – Palin rally.
McCain was pushed aside like he was some sort of fifth wheel on a wagon.
What a fool.

932 million dollars earmarked pork barrel spending….THAT’S WHAT OBAMA HAS DONE SINCE BEING IN THE SENATE. McCain is going to make every name known that comes his way for this waste of American tax dollars.
McCAIN/PALIN!

Complaints from Obamabots about the support that Hillary Clinton has offered their miserable messiah’s campaign are ridiculous. Since conceding in June, Hillary has done a lot more than Obama to unify the party. She has been gracious and supportive, while Obama has been dismissive, refusing to even consider her for VP. Obama assumed that he had the women’s vote locked up. I for one hope that his arrogant assumption, proves to be the unravelling of his campaign.

A new national poll taken entirely after the end of the Republican convention suggests the race for the White House between John McCain and Barack Obama is dead even.
McCain and Obama are tied at 48 percent each, according to a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll out Monday afternoon.

McCain and Palin are against wasteful pork barrel spending! McCAIN/PALIN!

Let’s see…
The Federal National Mortgage Association, nicknamed Fannie Mae, and the Federal Home Mortgage Corporation, nicknamed Freddie Mac, have operated since 1968 as government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). Note the term “government sponsored.”
This means that, although the two companies are privately owned and operated by shareholders, they are protected financially by the support of the Federal Government. Note the term “Federal Government.”
And, the Federal Government is supported by…taxpayers…
Specifically, these government protections include access to a line of credit through the U.S. Treasury, exemption from state and local income taxes and exemption from SEC oversight.
Although we don’t expect Sarah Palin to be perfect, the only gaffe came from Willem van Oranje…
Anybody But Obama…

McCain – genius economist.
Posted by: dl | Sep 8, 2008 12:52:36 PM
hahahahahaaa, you’re joking right. He’s the first to say he doesn’t know anything about the ecomomy.

Willem:
Turn on your television and make sure you are on a live broadcast…
CNN now shows McCain/Palin to be one point ahead of Obama/Biden…
Even with the CNN bias for Obama…
Gallup polls show an even higher McCain/Palin lead…
Anybody But Obama…

Hillary owes Obama NOTHING!
Not vetted.
Not selected.
He attacked her with sexist remarks.
His campaign labeled Bill Clinton a racist.
McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

As Hillary said…Sen. McCain and I have a lifetime of experience we bring to the WH…..BO has a speech he gave in 2004.
As Bill said…..this is a fairytail (in reference to BO)..he also spoke of Chicago thugs (BO political cronies that helped him cheat against Alice Palmer)
As Biden said…he is good looking and clean and articulate…for an African American….storybook, man
Plus Biden would rather be running with his good buddy McCain. WE KNOW THEY ARE THE CLOSER FRIENDS, c’mon.
McCain is going to put the best and brightest Reps AND DEMS in his cabinet, maybe even Biden….so he could still be in the picture.
When is the final blow going to happen with the Rev. Wright tape?

Willem van Oranje:
Biden has been earning a 6-figure government income for 27 years and has a net worth of $150,000.
Talk about an economic ‘nitwit’.
Obama cannot even settle on a less expensive home he can afford on his own without the help of a convicted felon.
Talk about an economic ‘nitwit”.

Let’s see…
Bill Clinton was the governor of a small, midwestern state before being elected President.
Most Democrats didn’t see his experience as Governor of Arkansas as a detriment, but rather as a signficant attribute.
So, the same experience of running a state (even a small one) is a positive rather than a negative.
By the way, Rice’s tone and comments reflect someone who realizes that she should be concentrated on her job as Secretary of State.
Get a grip, Willem…
Have you found a live broadcast, yet?
Anybody But Obama…

What is the difference between Obama and McCain??
Criminals, terrorists, crazy religious pastors, out-landish spending, lies and cocaine use. All this on the Obama’s side.

Gallup:
54% McCain
44% Obama
I supported Hillary but I do not support Nancy Pelosi’s puppet, Obama.

“There are Obama supporters who feel Clinton needs to make a strong case against Palin. And they are intrigued — and troubled — by the fact that she won’t.” – Jake Tapper
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Are these the same Obama supporters who trashed Hillary Clinton and called her all kinds of unprintable names, and wanted her thrown out of the Democrat Party?
Now that Obama is failing, they want Hillary to win the election for him. Isn’t that rich?

Willem van Oranje:
Read and learn…
The collapse of the national housing market in the wake of the Great Depression discouraged private lenders from investing in home loans…
Fannie Mae was established in order to provide local banks with federal money to finance home mortgages in an attempt to raise levels of home ownership and the availability of affordable housing. Note the term “federal money.”
Initially, Fannie Mae operated like a national savings and loan, allowing local banks to charge low interest rates on mortgages for the benefit of the home buyer.
This led to the development of what is now known as the secondary mortgage market.
Within the secondary mortgage market, companies such as Fannie Mae are able to borrow money from foreign investors at low interest rates because of the financial support that they receive from the U.S. Government. Note, “from the U.S. Government.”
It is this ability to borrow at low rates that allows Fannie Mae to provide fixed interest rate mortgages with low down payments to home buyers.
Now, Willem, what do you not understand about the relationship between the “the U.S. Government” and “federal money” and the relationship to taxpayers?
No rocket science, here…
Anybody But Obama…

And Jayhawk, did you see the footage where McCain was pushed aside by that pitbull with lipstick?
He stood there besides her, sulking and trying to put on his bravest smile, all the while thinking: “My God, What Have I DONE!!!”
It was hilarious.

Hillary campaigning for Obama will not change the status of the polls. Palin is more popular than Hillary and her picture is on all the magazines. She is a match for Hillary, Obama and Biden in a debate. Its too late for Hillary and she should have been a stronger woman when campaigning. There is no grass growing under Palin’s feet. She will talk back. Several thousand of people were at his campaigning in Missouri and the other day there were twelve thousand in New Mexico. The crowds are getting larger and his polls are going up.

Actually, Willem,
Just heard this a moment ago…
CNN’s Poll of polls shows:
McCain: 47%
Obama: 46%
Unsure: 7%
Are you sure you are watching live television?
Or, is the shock just too great?
By the way, Gallup shows:
McCain: 54%
Obama: 44%
Just gets worse, doesn’t it…
Anybody But Obama…

270 electoral votes needed to win.
Obama 273
McCain 265

Why aren’t the corrupt do-nothing democrats making hay out of the mortgage mess? Because it was created by them as they granted favors and looked the other way by lobbyists.

I love Hillary and respect her for her stance. She can be critical of Palin on the issues – that is fine. I am an avid Hillary supporter and she will continue to have my respect and support as long as she does not say horrible sexist remarks about Palin. If she does, it will be hypocritical and it won’t go down well. Hillary stands for women, their fight against what is happening with Palin, and all those millions cracks in the glass ceiling. If the Obamakins want to smear and be sexist against Palin, they can use the same women (they have a GREAT supply of them) who smeared and hated Hillary when she ran.
Palin 2008 – Hillary 2012!

anon: Even if Obama puts Hillary on the ticket she will not win against Palin. I can guarantee there are democrats switching over and it will continue. I believe the women in Florida will be voting for McCain. Not every woman in this country is democrat. Obama is a failure and will not win the election. Pail is too popular and it will get greater the more she campaigns.

Her novelty has already worn
off. Palin lies through her
teeth about practically
everything.
She’s a shrill whippersnapper.
She possesses neither the range
nor the depth of knowledge the
job demands. She has no gravitas.
She’ll bite the dust in a couple
of weeks.

People, if you didn’t know Oprah was the biggest racist in the business you’ve been wearing rose colored glasses. It should not be a surprise.

Where is Chris Dodd? It’s his committee.

And, with the government moving in to stabilize the housing market, the stock market is reacting favorably.
A step in the right direction…

Sarah Palin is that crazed lady who took over as chair of your school board one year in a stealth fundamentalist Christian takeover, picked fights with the library, the superintendant and the teacher’s union, wasted months on trying to ram through a creationist biology curriculum and a scientfically false absention sex ed program, triggered half a dozen lawsuits and finally destroyed the budget. Two years, endless local newspaper headlines, one teacher strike and $5M in attorney’s fees and lawsuit settlements later, the crazed lady and her friends are voted out and you have regained control of your local public school district. But nobody’s education has improved in the meantime.
Sarah Palin is exactly that crazed lady, and we’ll pay the price if we let her into our national government.

Obama/Biden
The real Bridge To Nowhere.

The expectations of Obama’s supporters are ridiculous.
They expect Hillary to go out and attack McCain’s vice-presidential pick as if she herself were Obama’s running mate, and not Biden.
Hillary is campaigning for herself in 2012 already, make no mistake about it.
She will pay lip service as much as she needs to regarding Obama, but I wouldn’t expect anything more.

Here is a little dose of reality.Hilary is just going to stick to the issues which I think will be McCain’s/Palin’s downfall.Oprah said that she would not use her show for ANY candidate and that after the election she would be glad to interview Palin.Obama decided BEFORE McCain to go to the 911 site-Does it really matter?While all this hype is going on about Palin please take time to look at her closer.Voting against funding for PRAGNANT TEENS,leaving Wasilla in debt,using her power to fire SEVERAL PEOPLE,and there is more-just look her up.Can some one tell me if McCain really threw out a vetran from the convention .

The Obama campaign has to use Hillary to take Palin down. Nobody else can do it. But Hillary should not do it, not if she has the best interests of the country at heart.
Hillary has to know that it is irrelevant whether a Democrat or Republican wins the presidency. Either way it will it will be business as usual.
If, however, Palin becomes vice president she will have a real shot at the presidency, either by replacing McCain or by running in 2012.
What this country needs is a woman president — any woman president. A woman president will fundamentally change our country’s image of itself. It will move it away from the paleolithic man-on-top mentality. This will ultimately favor progressives even if the woman is a conservative.
And, in many important respects Palin is not a traditional conservative. In her household she is the most important breadwinner, and her husband Todd is willing to fulfill the role of homemaker. This is not your typical a-woman’s-place-is-in-the-home situation.
Hurray for Sarah and Todd. This is the kind of image our daughters need to see.

Maria said:
Palin please take time to look at her closer.Voting against funding for PRAGNANT TEENS,leaving Wasilla in debt,using her power to fire SEVERAL PEOPLE,and there is more-just look her up.
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Obama please take time to look at him closer. Leaving Maytag workers in a lurch, Buying a home from slum lord Tony Rezko, Hanging out with people who bombed the US capital and felt they still didn’t do enough, attending a racist church for 20 years, committing a felony by using cocaine, not wanting to wear a US flag pin, and there is more- just look him up.

>>>Posted by: No 2 O | Sep 8, 2008 11:49:11 AM
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Thank you for an excellent post which is not only enlightening, but which was written in accordance with my very own opinions ;-)

This isn’t the first time a boss has picked an unqualified woman just because she agrees with him and opposes everything most other women want and need. Feminism has never been about getting a job for one woman. It’s about making life more fair for women everywhere.
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So did you vote for Hillary? Or was she unqualified?
“It’s about making life more fair for women everywhere.”
Good, so then you won’t care when Hillary supporters choose to vote for McCain.

Facts you should know about Palin’s record:
1. In 2003, Mayor Palin left behind almost $19 million in long term debt in her town of 7,084 people.
S2. he opposed funding for a state preschool program in Alaska but support teaching creationism in schools.
3. She was for the so-called Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it. While campaigning for Governor she supported the bridge and called the term offensive. On the national level, she reversed her position and now uses the term. I believe she has also kept the $47 million in funds that Alaska received from our tax money for this so called bridge.
S4. he is strongly anti-choice opposing abortion even in cases of rape and incest.
5. She is among a shrinking group of politicians what are skeptical that humans are responsible for climate change. She also wanted to take polar bears off the endangered species list. (My comment: no doubt to continue murdering these creatures under the activity called ‘sport hunting’)

Debra,
The DNC has become the very thing it used to hate and fight against.
The Donkey has become a racist, sexist, fear mongering jacka$$

Dems, Please note that some of the posters on this board, particularly the ones that continue to throw GIGO at every comment made, are Republican operatives who trawl the networks trying to spread chaos and doubt. That is their purpose in life.
Vote on November 4th as your heart tells you. Nothing is decided on these boards which are great for venting and setting forth opinions. The trawlers don’t have opinions, they are armed with misrepresentations meant to discredit their opponent. They are like the technical phone support folks who have a sheet with every possible answer to a troubleshooting problem.
The true test will be the results on November 4th, and no matter what anyone says, we will not know the verdict until then.

Palin fought corruption.
Obama up to his neck in it via the Daley Machine in Chicago.

I think it is quite demeaning to send women out to fight with women. Its stupid and offensive. “Cat fights” are not necessary and its dumb to ask Clinton to aggressively attack Palin considering she is not the VP pick.
What exactly is Biden’s job?

Sandra S,
Dems, Please note that some of the posters on this board, particularly the ones that continue to throw GIGO at every comment made, are Republican operatives who trawl the networks trying to spread chaos and doubt. That is their purpose in life.
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You’ve made an accusation, NOW PROVE that me or any other poster whose opinion differs from yours is a party operative. You dems and your projection is absolutely laughable.
Again, prove your accusation or retract it.

Fox News’s Carl Cameron came up with a fascinating description of this first joint McCain/Palin TV ad, which I typed as he spoke:
It’s a great piece of political judo wherein you take the mantra, the message, the strength of your opponent and claim it as your own. Barack Obama has been on the campaign trail now for two years calling himself the agent of change, saying that he’s the person who can really effect serious reform in Washington.
Now you’ve got John McCain and Sarah Palin saying that they are the candidates of change, pointing to their experience and their resume — their actual work in government — as evidence of their ability to effect the change that Barack Obama says he hopes to bring. Pretty tough row to hoe when Barack Obama has spent so many hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising and campaign efforts calling himself the agent of change, but McCain and Palin believe they can wrestle it away from him in just these last 58 days.

By Cal Thomas:
You Can’t Fake Authenticity
What is it about Sarah Palin that has gotten the liberal media’s knickers in a twist? Why are they criticizing, even mocking, everything from her hair to her faith?
She is exactly what the feminists claim to want and admire in women: strong, self-assured, a working mom, a political leader. But wait, she is a conservative Republican and because of that they hate her for displaying all of the aforementioned characteristics.
They are appalled that she would keep a Down Syndrome child when she could have aborted him. They are outraged when she speaks of God as if she knows Him, when their only acquaintance with the name is as a curse word, followed by “damn.” They are even disgusted that she has five children, as they think one (or two if you are Obama) is enough.

By Andrea Tantaros
Oprah’s Mind: Closed for Business?
For a woman who used to encourage millions of females to “find their spirit” Oprah Winfrey has certainly lost hers. The queen of daytime gab fests refuses to have Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin as a guest on her program–at least not before Election Day. We all know she’s backing Barack Obama but why wouldn’t she interview the first female Republican ever to be nominated as vice president? Isn’t this the same woman who lauds women who do it all? “A career, babies, a husband, adversity…you go girl!” You don’t need to be Dr. Phil to diagnose O’s prideful, blatant favoritism. The icon used to give away cars. Now she gives away her obvious bias.

Saw Hillary stumping today. Doesn’t
she look…..so………yesterday?!

Hmmm – Obama’s biggest supporter (Winfrey) seems to have a couple of racist bones in her body.
Obama and Oprah — two peas in a pod!

Come on Joe — at least be honest. You’ve been spouting pro-Obama nonsense here for quite a while.
Just like Obama people – trying to make something appear real that just isn’t so.

The Democratic donkey has become a jackass.

Some of us believe that HRC will take on Palin the same way she and Bill Clinton supported Obama at the convention: Half heartedly.
We hope, along with the Clinton’s, that Hillary will have another shot in 4 years.
This election we are voting Palin-McCain.

Virginia Harris…I did subscribe weeks ago still waiting for a e.mail. love the concept.
1 2 4 9 8

Something they forgot to teach Obama at Harvard (one of the 7 deadly sins):
Pride is excessive belief in one’s own abilities. It has been called the sin from which all others arise. Pride is also known as Vanity.
Obama will lose the White House for the Dems because he could not “lower” himself to putting Hillary on the ticket where everyone outside of the Obama squad sphere knew she belonged. Pride folks, plain and simple. Obama’s pride will lose this election on behalf of all Democrats. Do not blame Hillary or her supporters–blame Obama’s failure to recognize how his pride and arrogance would cause his downfall. This is not a new story–read any Greek tragedies Obama?

54% of our population female. 50% voters vote emotion not policy…who they FEEL DESERVES the keys to the WH. That’s good math for McCain/Biden.

But, hey it was an easy mistake as McCain wants to appoint Reps and DEMS to his cabinet….and he and Biden have a close friendship that goes back 33 years…love that McCain has no ego…just wants the best and the brightest, bipartisan leadership! He is the REAL UNIFIER.

USVet
I saw Obama & O’Riley on Bill’s teaser last week. Obama took an awfully long time to respond – probably trying to remember what he’s for.
I wasn’t impressed with his performance during the interview at all. In the end, he really didn’t say anything significant — just generalities.

To Hillary supporters…it’s payback time :D. McCain 2008, Clinton 2012
Posted by: fromHILLtoMAC | Sep 8, 2008 4:13:24 PM
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If you’re doing it for some sort of payback Hill will never win. People don’t forget.

You said:
“If you’re doing it for some sort of payback Hill will never win. People don’t forget”.
Hillary asked us all to turn the other cheek. She did, but I can’t. She is a much bigger person than I and should not be blamed for my decision not to support Obama. When we women voters got hit with the Biden pick and news that Hillary was not EVEN vetted, some of us realized that we could not bring ourselves to support Obama. You can’t force me (as a lifelong Democrat) to like someone who has proven in one false move that he is a coward and sexist. Ask yourself–if you were presented with a great leader, with all of the right credentials and experience, –could you vote for him? Now how about if you were Jewish or African-American? Don’t tell me the Biden decision wasn’t sexist–we know, we saw, we will not forget–no matter how much Hillary or Bill tell us that we should like Obama anyway. It’s just not possible–sorry.

Hillary is doing what she committed herself to do. She doesn’t have to do any more than that and Obama does not expect her to do more than that. Why does everyone think Obama is lost without Hillary going after Palin? Hillary has already given Palin a clear message with that one line, “NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN, NO PALIN.” These words alone make it loud and clear to Palin that it would be best that Palin not use Hillary’s words, nor use Hillary as an icon to advance the Republican agenda.

Samantha–yes–”maybe he will learn how Hillary felt” when his media image loses to a new media image. Maybe Obama should buy some Palin glasses. I think that there are many, many highly educated women who refuse to drink the koolaid this time. And I wish Palin all the best in a spot that should have been Hillary’s (just looking at credentials, experience). I am still grateful that Hillary’s campaign opened our eyes to the extent of rampant sexism in our own party. Shame, shame. SHE was an important voice in the dialogue re: the future of this country.

Hillary is amazing! Obama is a phony! It is frightening how the marketing of Obama made him so popular even though he had ZERO EXPERIENCE.
I’m so glad America is seeing him for what he is…all talk and fake presidential seals.
Palin/McCain 08

Why does anyone need to “Take on Palin?” That would only make this a campaign about personalities and totally ignore the issues, which is exactly what the Republicans (Karl Rover) wants. He did the same thing when Bush ran and look what we got. When the issues are discussed, Obama/Biden win hands down. McCain admits he doesn’t know that much about the economy and “it’s the economy stupid.” Palin doesn’t know much about the eoncomy either, at least when it comes to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

I hope that voters who embrace Hillary Clinton’s position on social issues as well as domestic and foreign policy, but who shun Obama, appreciate that Sarah Pailin is cut from the same ideological cloth as Pat Buchanan and the evangelical right. Is that who you want a heartbeat away from the Presidency and from the authority to shape the future composition of the Supreme Court?

That’s why we never forget how Obama treated Hillary supporters!
Posted by: fromHILLtoMAC | Sep 8, 2008 4:34:33 PM
Yes, it works both ways.

JimW: The Dems always brings up Roe v. Wade as a scare tactic, just like the Repubs bring up 9/11. Stop already. We know that even with the Roberts court, Roe has not been overturned. The Senate would not confirm a religious fanatic judge anyway. Finally, even without Roe, the states have the power to keep abortion safe and legal. Enough already–we’re not stupid. Why don’t you try another “key: issue like gay marriage. Oh, that’s right, neither Obama nor McCain supports gay marriage–just civil unions. Here’s a new issue for you–sexism in politics: how the democrats lost the 2008 election because the man could not share the stage and spotlight with her pantsuits. Sexism will decide this election. Obama’s only hope is to pander to the Republican sexist/misogynist Hillary haters who are angry that a hockey mom is now on the GOP ticket.

Once again we hear from all the Republicans disguised as Hillary supporters. The Republicans don’t give a rat’s behind about Hillary. But they are bringing up how poor Hillary was treated because they think Hillary supporters are going to vote for a right-wing ticket. I don’t think true Hillary supporters would do that, unless all they care about is the gender of their candidate. Don’t take your eye off the ball people. We’ve got an eight-year mess to clean up. Hillary said it best today: You don’t call on the iceberg to fix the titanic.

Bonnie: I’m sorry–our point here is that Obama did not stand for equal treatment of women when he chose Biden over Hillary. How can you ignore that? I wanted to like Obama, but his decsion to ice out Hillary supporters is what made me think I could not vote Dem for the 1st time in my life. What good is a stance on an issue if your leaders dod not walk the talk? NOBODY (and believe me, I have been asking) has been able to explain to me why Biden got the gig over Hillary (except for affirmative action for old white entrenched D.C. insiders who supported the Iraq war??) You tell me how you swalloed the Biden pick. Not only did it go against everything Obama claimed he stood for, it slapped the Hillary supporters real good. Brilliant and a shameful move (shame on Obama). If he did not think that we mattered, he should not win this election.

Palin serves the purpose of distracting us from the issues that the Republicans don’t want to address, because they have made them worse over the last eight years: global warming; foreclosure crisis; health care; rising unemployment rates; Katrina; poverty rates that are highest for women and children; exorbitant gas prices; failing schools; and a trillion dollar war. If we can argue about Palin and whether or not the media is being mean to her and her family, we will forget that John McCain is a seventy-two year old man with recurring melanoma who voted with Bush 90% of the time and voted against every proposal to support solar and wind energy development for the last decade. Obama won the nomination fair and square. He didn’t nominate Hillary to be his vice-president because he knew it would be difficult to be chief executive with Bill and Hillary in the White House. Members of McCain’s own party admit Palin was a campaign decision, not a governing decision. In other words, he put his political ambitions above what is best for the nation. Obama might have won more easily with HIllary on the ticket, but he was concerned about governing, not just winning. In other words, he put his country above his political ambitions. Hillary is right not to take on Palin in order to avoid contributing to distractions from the issues. Go HIllary!!!

Hillary would need Obama supporters in 2012, just like the 2008 primary. She won’t get them if Obama loses in November.

Obama, Biden, and Clinton ask women to make their decision for president based on “THE ISSUES” as Hillary put it. Now if you are BLACK, they infer that its OK to vote for the “HISTORIC TICKET” Just another example of a DOUBLE STANDARD if you ask me. The Democrats hold blacks back in what amounts to a “Sharecropper Arrangement” For the Black Vote. Once a black becomes successful, the Democrats drop them like a hot potato. Another double standard as applied by the Democrats

If Obama loses the election, it might just be because of the Clintons!
I was a Hillary supporter before her and Bill’s mudslinging to Obama.
They have done such damage that it was impossible for Obama to sell that Hillary really wants Obama.
Nice Job Hillary, your over the top selfishness might have sunk your party.

Hillary should tell the dope with hope to stuff it. If he had picked her they would have won, now, with Palin on the team, McCain will probably take the White House.

The clintons really surprised me in this election. To all hillary supporters, hillary will never get to be president in 2012 or ever. They need the black vote to win and they get all the blame.