How Transparent Will Palin Be?

it does occur to me that she’s running for vice president and not prom queen. pardon the slam, jake, but she’s got, what 49 days to try to help bring over colorado, ohio and pennsylvania. after she hits the white house, i’m sure she’ll invite you and the press corps over for tea. ;0)

“She’s a fraud, manufactured by Republicans.”

Who cares she lies and has from the start.She will pick her time and she said so and that is what she is doing and done so far.She has much to hide and McCain was a fool to think he could ride the skirts of a jerk in to the White House…

Palin is real. Obama is a hoax – courtesy of the DNC and the DC socialists.

Bhrandon
Don’t you have something important to say — like “What in the hell happened to the Cardinals”?

If Sarah Palin’s mayoral and gubernatorial management and lawyers emphasized to her what “open government” is about and she disregarded it, then shame on her. If they didn’t clue her in to it, were they stupid or were they intimidated? I can’t believe there aren’t enough gadflies in Alaska to scream their heads off about this and get the secrecy out of her government.

Lets not forget she’s decided she WON’T cooperate with the authorities on “trooper-gate”.
If she has nothing hide then why won’t she cooperate w/ the investigation?
McCain wants to know why his numbers are starting to fall… look no further then Palin.
We’re learning more and more about her record and from the pollings… voters are taking a second look.
She will have alot to answer during the VP debate. Earmarks, bridge to nowhere, foreign policy, taxes, reform…….
what she’s going to reform…
I can’t wait.

“Palin is real. Obama is a hoax – courtesy of the DNC and the DC socialists.”

Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined this many straw horses

David Brooks, conservative NYT columnist, officially joined the rush to jump OFF the Palin bandwagon this morning.
HE SAYS SHE’S NOT QUALIFIED.
EVEN CONSERVATIVES AGREE: LOOSE CANNON McCAIN SHOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT.

Her government operation used the same trick of conducting business on “private” emails to get around open records law which was a favorite trick of the Bush administration (along with losing emails) in order to avoid leaving a trail. What does appear from her mayoral and governmental appointments is a control freak obsessed with personal ambition and choosing cronyism over competence. She’s even more of a third term of Bush Cheney than McCain is.

I guess celebrity VP’s don’t hold press conferences.

“She’s going to embarass herself during the VP debate in front of MILLIONS.”

She governs just like the Bush Administration while speechifying about how transparent and open she is.
Alarm bells are going off in my head. Make them stop.

Did you just watch Obama’s speech in Colorado on the economy? He completely skewered McCain! Obama is going to win.

WHY DID OPRAH WINFREY LEAVE TRINTY CHURCH BUT OBAMA DID SO ONLY AFTER PRESSURE FROM THE MEDIA?
Newsweek May 2008
For any spiritually minded, up-wardly mobile African-American living in Chicago in the mid-1980s, the Trinity United Church of Christ was—and still is—the place to be. That’s what drew Oprah Winfrey, a recent Chicago transplant, to the church in 1984. She was eager to bond with the movers and shakers in her new hometown’s black community. But she also admired Trinity United’s ambitious outreach work with the poor, and she took pride in upholding her Southern grandmother’s legacy of involvement with traditional African-American houses of worship. Winfrey was a member of Trinity United from 1984 to 1986, and she continued to attend off and on into the early to the mid-1990s. But then she stopped. A major reason—but by no means the only reason—was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
According to two sources, Winfrey was never comfortable with the tone of Wright’s more incendiary sermons, which she knew had the power to damage her standing as America’s favorite daytime talk-show host. “

Are you kidding? McCain is a transparency advocate? He won’t release his medical records, he won’t release his military records, he and Cindy file tax returns separately to hide her income, his staff won’t let Palin hold a press conference, they won’t let her cooperate with Troopergate investigators and he did everything he could to hide Cindy’s addiction. You want to support McCain, fine. But don’t push the lie that he’s for transparency in government.

That doesn’t mean they’re “socialists” — far FROM it: they’re mobsters on the make.
Posted by: Belle Starr
******************************************* OH wow, you guys got some new talking points that you are allowed to say now.

The McCain campaign has finally hit its stride. Some of the current crop of TV campaign and radio ads are out-of-the-park winners and the McCain/Palin stump speeches are on-message, like an ice-pick to the skull. Reduce Taxes, Reduce Spending and Drill Till It Hurts.
Obama is wallowing in a mess of Change-iness and Hope-itude, saddled with a VP pick who is about as inspiring as cold oatmeal. He’s falling into the same trap as the one that sank Kerry, of running against the past Presidential term. We’ve heard nothing new from him for weeks except for desperate reaction to McCain/Palin – and even that is poorly-timed and tone-deaf. Yesterday, he used the expression ‘lipstick on a pig’ to describe McCain/Palin. It’s fine old American turn of phrase – but it looks like a direct personal insult to Governor Palin. Tone-deaf, stupid – whoever scripted this phrase for him needs to go back to leafletting the mall in Galesburg, IL.
It’ll be McCain by 100 EC votes or more. It gives me no joy to say it, and I agree that the wailing that we will hear form Obama will put all previous sore-Democrat-loser events in the shade. But I’ll take it.

Gosh! the solution is simple. I’ll get my neighbor’s 17 year old computer whiz son to hack into Yahoo and retrieve the emails. I’m surprized Sarah didn’t know how vulnerable a Yahoo email account is. Again, it’s a matter of her judgement being in question.

Hey dl – Palin transparent. Do not fallover laughing. If she has nothing to hide then why hide from the press, dodge ins=vestigations and the like. She is not George III, she is Cheney in a skirt and lipstick. RUN PEOPLE RUN.

That’s not the reason she’s not cooperating. She’s hiding somethings and before long it will come out.
McCains problem. He didn’t vet her and now he has to deal with it.
She should’ve told the truth. Now her record will be thrown back into her face during the VP debate in front of millions.
What will she say to earmarks? reform?transparency? Bridge to nowhere? foreign policy?
Obama choose Biden b/c he has no controversies floating around. He’s been vetted by both the Obama team and the media.
Palin WASN’T vetted by neither the McCain camp or the media.
He should’ve chosen Romney. Could’ve won Michigan and Dems would’ve been in great trouble.
I said it before and I say it now. McCain gave this election to Obama when he choose Palin.

With all the lies she tells, I surmise not very.

Sarah, Paris and Brittney are Almost similar. The only difference is Paris and Brittney are more honest.

Star Belle,
You sound like some fringe conspiracy theorist. Next this you know you’ll be telling us about how Palin is a gift from the alien races on Mars (jk).
Seriously, that Obama is a socialist line is rediculous. Unfortunately, Sarah Palin is looking more and more like a Fascist. The point is when “we” make radical statements like these “we” lose our credibility on frums like this one. Try coming with a real argument next time.

Yeah Belle just what we need a first Dude. This woman is very shady and dishonest. She has a few great lines but there is nothing underneath the perfect makeup and designer glasses. Sorry ladies she aint no Hillary CLinton.

“And now all of a sudden she’s credited with being on the same cover-up sophistication level with Karl Rove, and the Watergate conspirators.”
No, she is merely an end product of the sophistication level of Rove much like Bush was.

Palin lied to Charlie Gibson
“There’s nothing to hide,” she said in an interview with ABC’s Charles Gibson. “Commissioner Monegan has said, ‘The governor never asked me to fire him, the governor’s husband never asked me to fire him,’ and we never did. I never pressured him to hire or fire anybody.”

Eight years ago the USA was the world’s unquestioned superpower, leader in technical innovation, beacon of democracy, civil rights and the rule of law.
Then the Republicans finally got control of all branches of government.
And now? People are seriously thinking of voting in the Republicans AGAIN?

Her nutjob fundie fans will overlook this and all of her other warts, flaws and misdeeds BECAUSE SHE’S ONE OF THEM!

First time I have ever posted. I am an independent now. Was a republican, but just changed because of this type of hate. There is no place for a moderate in the republican party. Will now vote Obama Biden

She and McCain will be as transparent as Bush and Cheney have been. If that’s what you want America, they’re your choice. As for me (and I pray millions and millions more Americans) I choose change for the better. Obama/Biden ’08!!

I admit to not being as smart as the rest of you guys. I’m not concerned with the personalities of these candidates, I’m concerned with who seems to be more concerned with the issues facing most Americans right now. High gas prices, the rising cost of education, our economy going in the toilet, our involvement in this questionable war. Most people vote along party lines, I tend to vote for the lesser of the 2 evils. How someone can honestly say that McCain/Palin is a better choice than Obama/Biden is beyond me. The question of this election is this, are Americans frustrated enough with the current state of affairs that they can overcome their fear of voting for a black man for POTUS? Let’s face it, this is something this country has never had to face in its 232 year history, the possibility of a black President, & it’s scaring the hell out of some people. But Obama is the best person for the job right now, of what we have to choose from. The alternative is a ticket who will continue the course in Iraq, a ticket with a VP candidate we don’t know anything about & her party doesn’t want us to know. Coming from a person who really doesn’t have a dog in the fight, the possibility of McCain/Palin should scare the hell out of everyone. The fact that the GOP thought that Sarah Palin would ensure them of the female vote is insulting. I think the women of America are far more intelligent than the GOP thinks they are. I’m not into politics & I can’t wait until this mess is over. Unless something of epic proportions comes out on Obama or Biden, the lesser of 2 evils in ’08 are the Democrats.

Here’s another gaffe from a McCain staffer:
Carly Fiorina, a key surrogate for John McCain on economic issues, said on Tuesday that Sarah Palin does not have the experience needed to run a major company like the one that Fiorina formerly headed.
“Do you think [Sarah Palin] has the experience to run a major company, like Hewlett Packard?” asked the host.
“No, I don’t,” responded Fiorina. “But you know what? That’s not what she’s running for.”
Oh how true Ms. Fiorina, she’s only running to be a heartbeat away from CEO of the Free World, what would experience and knowledge have to do with it?

The Palin response to troopergate?
Not cooperation with the bipartisan commission as she promised.
Nope.
Her campaign is handing out talking points attacking Monegan to press, so far only the dutiful right wingers have carried the water.
This woman is the kind of sleazy politician worthy of the Bush legacy.
No wonder McCain picked her.

Sarah says something different from her records. She is a phatologic liar. Can people not see the pattern? Or there are just stupid.

Looks like what goes up must come down.
Palin is starting to show her true colors.

Obama and Biden voted for the Bridge to Nowhere.
Voted NO to an amendment to divert funds to Katrina relief.
Great judgement.

mccain sure has shown a lack of judgment these last couple of weeks
he is proving why he cant be trusted with the presidency.

Concerned is now relegated to repeating stupid conspiracy theories.
Its really kind of sad.

“I can’t hear anything else until they address this issue.”
Kim,
Obama did address the issue.
His campaign called out Amir Taheri for the liar he is.
Your problem is that you trust news sources that lie to you on a regular basis.

This is not, generally, the message you want to send as the financial markets collapse and the country’s economic concerns are at the forefront of the political dialogue.
On Monday, Sarah Palin hosted a major fundraiser on behalf of John McCain in Canton, Ohio. The event, which raised $1 million, was organized by W.J. “Tim” Timken Jr., a major Republican figure in the state and mega-donor to George W. Bush.
Timken, additionally, is a toxic figure within Ohio’s working class community. His company, Timken Co — one of the largest manufacturers of tapered roller and needle bearings in the country — is responsible for massive job losses in one of the hardest economically hit areas in the United States: Stark County, Ohio.
there ya go more of the same

Palin didn’t learn much from history did she?
It’s not so much the crime, but the cover-up that hurts you.
If you have nothing to hide, best to cooperate or else it looks like you are hiding something.
I mean if Sarah Palin can’t ask questions about local issues, how can we expect her to handle Putin???
Every day she stonewalls looks worse for her in the long term.

The bounce that mccain/palin have experienced started downward now that the country is in a financial crisis. We certainly don’t want someone that doesn’t understand ECONOMICS in the White House at this point. Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Go find Obama’s records when he was in the State Senate – Obama won’t release them or they are “missing”.
Where are grades and class lists from the 3 colleges Obama attended? He won’t release them.
Where are the records of his community organizing activities? He won’t release them.
Why aren’t you as concerned about Obama’s e-mails as you are Palins?
Where are the records of Obama’s working with Ayers and Rezko – he won’t release them….or they are hidden away.

“or advocating military escalation in Afghanistan”
Yeah the only people calling for that are the generals like Petreaus.
Obama has been calling for troops in Afghanistan to go after the Taliban and Al Queda. Imagine that going after the people who were directly involved in attacking us on 9/11.
John McCain said the war in Afghanistan was over 3 years ago.
McCain…wrong again.

Hey riley, thanks for conceding that Obama will be the next president.

I feel sorry for the few partisan hacks that are still blindly defending this sham of a VP pick that was foisted upon them.
Intellectual conservatives, libertarian-leaning conservatives and good government conservatives see this cynical and crass pick for exactly what is is.
Country first, huh?

Please make this stop. If you notice, republicans and conservatives are unable to respond to questions about Palin without asking questions about someone else in return (Obama, the person posing the question, etc.). We are really abandoning our principles this year with McCain’s nomination and his truly disastrous candidacy, not to mention this Palin concept.
McCain does not have the integrity, character and judgment to lead our nation at this time. As a republican, I used to just disagree with him on a couple of issues, but at least I knew where he stood. Now, he is a farce and should be exposed as such.

Obama’s kind of community organizing:
voter fraud/ACORN

Who cares if she does a press conference for the media, she is out there every day talking to AMERICANS, the voters, that’s what she should be doing, talking to the media is a waste of time, it’s obvious most of you have made up your own minds anyway and would never be as tough on Obama as Palin

How transparent will Obama be?
where are his senate records that he clamied he lost.

“she is out there every day talking to AMERICANS, the voters, that’s what she should be doing”
Cee,
If she was taking question from voters I would be all for it.
But making speeches is not talking to the American people, its talking at them.

Obama responded by essentially confirming Taheri’s account. It wasn’t enough for Obama to fail at forcing the nation into a defeat in Iraq when he opposed the surge. Now he has interfered with our efforts to stabilize Iraq and provide for its security after the surge succeeded in keeping Iraq from falling into a failed state. And when he got caught working for failure and defeat, he tried making it into a smear against John McCain.
That’s not leadership America needs from a Senator, let alone a President. The Senate should investigate this as a gross violation of the Constitution and the separation of powers between the branches of government.

I’m still awaiting the MSM to report on Obama’s Treason. Trying to talk the Iraqi Government into stalling draw downs until after the elections. Two days and counting. I am still waiting.

She really does look like a Bush protege doesn’t she?

The truth is Mr. Obama is MORE like Bush in 2000 than McCain is. Like Bush in 2000, Obama is untested but popular. Swing voters like me are hesitant of putting in another unknown, and the closer we get to November, the more leery independents are gonna get. Obama doesn’t can’t acknowledge that he has any fundamental flaws. Not acknowledging the problem, proves he has it.

In a statement issued in July, Palin heatedly denied illegally accessing her ex-brother-in-law’s personnel files and posted two documents on the governor’s Web site, including a release signed by Wooten in February giving his wife’s divorce attorney access to his “entire employment file.”
The posted documents suggested that Palin obtained information about Wooten’s personnel file through the discovery process related to the divorce/custody battle with her sister.
“Any information regarding personnel records came from the trooper himself,” Palin said in her statement.
But the fact that Wooten’s personnel file was released to his ex-wife’s attorney during court proceedings does not mean that Palin’s office then had the right to access the files so it could be used against him, Cyr said.
“Those files were strictly for use during the divorce,” Cyr said. “And it has a sunset provision,” expiring on May 1.
Plus, Cyr said, conducting an investigation of a state trooper’s workers comp situation is “not the job of the governor’s office and that’s exactly what we have been saying. … Why is the governor’s office involved in this trooper’s worker’s compensation claims?”
Cyr said he believes the governor’s office posted documents on her Web site saying state officials were not trying to illegally gain access to Wooten’s files to “inoculate themselves from the fact that they used the resources of the governor’s office to obtain highly confidential information about Trooper Wooten from his personnel file without authorization.”
Two weeks ago, Palin’s office removed the two documents, including Wooten’s release form, from her official Web site.

During an appearance Friday on ABC’s “The View,” Sen. McCain said Gov. Palin shared his views, and hasn’t sought congressional earmarks. “Not as governor she hasn’t,” he said.
In fact, in the current fiscal year, she is seeking $197 million for 31 projects, the records show. In the prior year, her first year in office, she sought $256 million for dozens more projects ranging from research on rockfish and harbor-seal genetics to rural sanitation and obesity prevention. By comparison, her predecessor, Gov. Frank Murkowski, sought more than $350 million in his last year in office.
The McCain campaign said Sunday that Gov. Palin’s overall record is one of fiscal discipline. “Her record is cutting the number of earmark requests from the previous administration sizably,” said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds, and she has vetoed wasteful state spending.
As for Sen. McCain’s televised comments on Friday, Mr. Bounds added, “If he gave viewers a mistaken impression, it certainly wasn’t intentional.”
In an interview with ABC News on Friday, Gov. Palin herself suggested she no longer seeks earmarks for her state. “The abuse of earmarks, it’s un-American, it’s undemocratic, and it’s not going to be accepted in a McCain-Palin administration. Earmark abuse will stop.”
When pressed about her record as governor, she said: “We have drastically, drastically reduced our earmark request since I came into office. This is what I’ve been telling Alaskans for these years that I’ve been in office, is no more.”

My gosh, are the comments on these posts always so wildly off-topic and chock-a-block with insane conspiracy theories? Is it too much to ask that people stay at least within sight of reality? Oh, right. It’s the internet.
Anyway, good post, Jake. You make some very important points about Gov. Palin’s email habits. I’d find that kind of behavior suspicious in any candidate.

Aides keep reporters well away from her when she is campaigning, and also protect her privacy aboard her chartered campaign plane by pulling a curtain across the center aisle to separate the Palins and her top aides from the rest of the passengers.
Even Palin’s carefully scripted moments can produce puzzlements.
“Too often, the government gets in the way when innovators take on cancer or Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s,” she told an audience in Golden, Colo. One aide suggested later that was a reference to federal earmarks that lawmakers sometimes insert into legislation, but the campaign provided no documentation for the claim.
Then, too, Palin seems to relish repeating claims that make selective use of undisputed facts. She told one audience she said “thanks, but no thanks” to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere” that was intended to link a small Alaska village to its airport on a nearby island.
In reality, she welcomed federal funding for the project until it became a national symbol of wasteful spending.

And you people wonder why the big shift of women voters to the McCain ticket has occurred??
For the last two weeks, ever since Palin was announced as McCain’s V.P. pick, the media, feminists, and the Obama campaign have been going out of their way to bring her down, look for any little thing to point their fingers at, and then try to say they are not “sexist.”
I’ve got news for all of you, the people who vote in every election, and who vote for the person they think is going to do the best job for THEM, are all of those women who have now decided to vote for McCain.
I don’t think anything you could post here between now and election day would turn their heads.
It still amazes me that NO ONE has done one-tenth of the vetting job on Obama during the last 20 months that everyone is now doing on Sarah Palin…….

Aaaagain…Obama’s press availability? Nil. For how long?

“I’m still awaiting the MSM to report on Obama’s Treason. Trying to talk the Iraqi Government into stalling draw downs until after the elections. Two days and counting. I am still waiting.
Posted by: K im”
Same here. If that claim is true it is absolutely ridiculous it is not in the MSM. ABC can run smear jobs against Palin but can’t look into a story that shows Obama undermining US diplomacy? If the claim is true it is a matter of HUGE proportions on several levels not to mention potential legal liabilities.

“Aaaagain…Obama’s press availability? Nil. For how long?”
Wade,
Obama held a presser just last week.
Let the AP take it from here.
Unlike Obama, McCain has not held a news conference since accepting his party’s nomination. He hasn’t taken questions from his traveling press corps in more than a month.
Like Obama, he makes himself selectively available to local reporters in particular places where the campaign thinks the access will help his prospects.

Palin is just another Republican/Conservative who thinks she is above the law. They should change the name of their party to the ‘No Accountability, It’s not my fault’ party.

McCain campaign strategy
Lie Baby, Lie!!!

She won’t give a press conference because it would look REAL bad giving a press conference with a teleprompter. But then again, if she did the press would just report how good she was reading off the screen.

Why would anyone talk about what Amir Taheri has to say. He has had multiple articles retracted from the New York Post for falsifications. He has a book that has been torn to shreds for essentially being made up.
The only people who would pay any attention to Amir Taheri’s claims that Obama tried to slow down troop withdrawals are the tinfoil hat brigade.

Sarah Palin is a person who has turned on every leader who helped her up the ladder of success. The mayor who got her elected to the City Council found her as an opponent. The Governor who appointed her to chair a state commission found her as an opponent.
Some call her a reformer. Others disloyal. Clearly ambitious. Watch yourself Senator McCain.

So Governor Palin eventually said no the the Bridge To Nowhere but she supports a Bridge To Her Little Home Town In Alaska. I guess that makes her a one-trick pit bull afterall.
So what’s the difference between Sarah Palin and a typical old school porkbarrel politician? Lipstick.

Cryos, no but then Bush never defended himself against allegations that he masterminded 9/11 either. So I guess that must be true too!
Honestly, leaders of countries aren’t in the habit of defending themselves against tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.
Posted by: johnTX”
Nice excuse. Obama himself didn’t even deny it and had a campaign staff say “I was in Iraq with Obama and never heard this.” That is a WEAK denial. Maybe there is no story but dismissing something with that sort of significance with easily verifiable sources is ignorant.

McCain-Palin would be BUSH-CHENEY ON STEROIDS.

Cryos, by having Obama directly deny it, it raises the issue’s prominence in the press. This means that a news cycle will be devoted to a smear with the news media repeating the smear over and over and over.
And since this smear is written by someone who has the credibility of Richard Nixon, the mainstream press is correctly ignoring the whole thing. If it had been written by say, the Iraqi government, then someone would have paid attention.

“Cryos, by having Obama directly deny it, it raises the issue’s prominence in the press. This means that a news cycle will be devoted to a smear with the news media repeating the smear over and over and over.
And since this smear is written by someone who has the credibility of Richard Nixon, the mainstream press is correctly ignoring the whole thing. If it had been written by say, the Iraqi government, then someone would have paid attention..”
Yeah that is the justification for not investigating the Edwards issue and look what happened with that. Amazing how hypocritical liberals are and the double standards they employ thinking other people are too stupid to see the thinly veiled sham.

SandyB,
Of course the media has only been “trying to bring her down” for 2 weeks. No one really heard of her before then. Every candidate goes through the process of having every past and present action dissected and analyzed. Palin is getting the same treatment. With only 2 months from the time of the announcement to the election, the media is not going to take their time. Also, has any one on the republican side thought that maybe if Palin would talk to the media, the media wouldn’t be going through every aspect of her life digging up every little thing they can find. If you throw a hungry dog a bone, they will most likely not go off looking for scraps someplace else.

Cryos:
re: “Truth hurts ”
that’s exactly why you should read Jake’s article, the one at the very top of this page… you and your republican buddies can try and shout and drown out everyone but when FOX ‘news’ and Karl Rove are saying that Palin/McCain is over the line, well, you are knee deep in moose droppings.
Truth = Republicans totally running the government from 2000 until 2007.
Truth = a fraud war leading to dead Americans.
Truth = McCain’s campaign achieves new lows in American politics.
Truth = Republican/Conservative economics has brought America to it’s knees.
‘mission accomplished’

“Cryos:
re: “Truth hurts ”
that’s exactly why you should read Jake’s article, the one at the very top of this page… you and your republican buddies can try and shout and drown out everyone but when FOX ‘news’ and Karl Rove are saying that Palin/McCain is over the line, well, you are knee deep in moose droppings.
Truth = Republicans totally running the government from 2000 until 2007.
Truth = a fraud war leading to dead Americans.
Truth = McCain’s campaign achieves new lows in American politics.
Truth = Republican/Conservative economics has brought America to it’s knees.
‘mission accomplished’
Posted by: Jazzman |:
Nice non-response to my posts with your own partisan version of truth. So how is Obama’s “bipartisanship” one of the bedrocks of his campaign LOL?

OK-When is Obama going to release his school, community organizer, previous campaign and medical records? Transparent?

“”1. So is “truth” defined only by news sources that are nowhere near center.”
You tell me since the Washington Times is a fervently conservative paper that supports Republicans.
Posted by: Ryan C”
It’s too bad for you that you shield yourself from any opinion that might contradict your own. I look at everything ranging from right wing to left wing publications and make up my own mind. That is a strategy pursued by open minded, intelligent individuals.

Anybody who believes in Creationism would have to ignore hundreds of years of scientific data
and reject all of Geology, Biology, Astronomy, Mathematics, Physics, Archeology.
In other words you would have to be of very low intelligence. And of short sighted provincial attitude. To ignore all the understanding that humanity has gained as a body of knowledge throughout the ages.
The Only place on earth where a large group of people believe in Creationism is the
DUMB BELT or Red State Bible Belt of the USA.
Palin believes in Creationism…. OR Does She?
What would be worse? If she believed it? OR
She knew it to be Garbage but used it as a political stepping stone?
Hmmm. If she actually believes it, That is pathetic
She belongs in a Group house not the White House.
AND DANGEROUS!
If she is faking to please the Right wing fundamentalist Cooks…
That is EVIL!

There really is a certain gang-rape element in how the “media” (mostly male at the top) has dealt first with Clinton, now with Palin.
…..
The difference is Clinton face it frontally while Palin hides from it. I don’t know for how long…..

“Vote for someone smarter than you.”

“The stakes are real and they’re terrifyingly high. This election matters. It matters. It really matters. Let me say that one more time. This. Really. Matters.”
_________
Yes! They really do, and that’s why I will not be voting for Obama!
Keep on harping on the niggling, unimportant things…..
Keep on throwing spear.
One day, your aim will be even worse then usual, and you will puncture B O’s hot air balloon…. and then YOU’ll be able to see him as he really is!
Meantime, you and Ryan C should become roomies!

Bush appointed Republican Minerals Management Service employees who supported McCain -Palin, frequently consumed alcohol at industry functions, had used cocaine and marijuana, and had sexual relationships with oil and natural gas company representatives.
The MMS scandal gives new Meaning to the GOP mantra “Drill Baby Drill.”
THIS IS THE NEOCON WAY OF DOING BUSINESS

Here we have Jake lying about Obama’s financing “promise” again. Obama broke NO public finance promise. He said he’d agree to restrictions if McCain would. McCain wouldn’t agree, so Obama dropped it. I can’t believe Tapper doesn’t understand something this simple, so I have to assume he’s lying for the right wing.
McCain actually did some illegal maneuvering, pledging to authorities to go with public finance in order to secure collateral in financing his campaign, and then backing out. No Tapper outrage, because McCain’s a Republican.

IT’S LIKE THE TITANIC. The U.S. is like that glorious, opulent, fabulous sinking ship. No one wants to believe that we could really go down. We’ve been so well off for so long. Instead of facing the terrifying reality of our plummeting economy, McCain-Palin supporters are like the Titanic guests who preferred to stay at the party, turn up the music and dance, pretending that they weren’t moments away from disaster.
We have George W. Bush’s 8 years of failed trickle-down economics to thank for our ruined economy. Though it’s not been ruined for himself and his business buddies who got what they wanted in Iraq. funny how the richer some folks got these past eight years, the poorer others got. G.W. Bush has shrunk our middle class and ballooned out the amount of poor people in the U.S. There’s been no trickle; just some super-richies who are growing their piles of $.
McCain plans to continue down Bush’s economic road. He has a record of voting with Bush on the issues–91% of the time. He has many Bush loyalists working on his campaign and waiting for their places in the McCain administration.
How can U.S. citizens allow this country to sink further down? This is the titanic, people. This is a great country that is truly going down. It takes courage to recognize a disaster coming our way. It might be easier for some to cling to old, familiar ways, but this is the time for something new, something smarter than what got us in this mess.

Palin is just a brief Phenomenon. Americans usually are fascinated by Mysteries. We are getting to know her more and more. Stories about her getting more interesting. Her true color is more apparent now. People will feel decieved by her lies.

Palin’s tactical “hiding” from the prep-school commentariat will make it even sweeter when she breaks these guys’ pencils in the debate with Biden.
…………………….
I can hardly wait to see Palin debate.

jpt writes:
“Obama’s broken promises on public financing comes to mind”

Palin’s rise is proof that the
dumbing down of America is
proceeding apace.

anon
and Obamas rise differs from that how?
LOL

“Palin’s rise is proof that the dumbing down of America is proceeding apace.”

“….McCain has shown in choosing his VP. There is a reason people vet their VP choices.”
——
There are those who disagree with you, and as for vetting, Obama trashed the best VP he could have had…. and went to another who required NO vetting but publicly admits he isn’t as good as Hillary!
And how come Palin is being vetted ever so much more carefully then Obama ever was even though he’s running for the higher office?
There is usually a reason for vetting one’s presidential choices!

“Bush appointed Republican Minerals Management Service employees who supported McCain -Palin, frequently consumed alcohol at industry functions, had used cocaine and marijuana, and had sexual relationships with oil and natural gas company representatives.
The MMS scandal gives new Meaning to the GOP mantra “Drill Baby Drill.”
THIS IS THE NEOCON WAY OF DOING BUSINESS”
Nice spin. Most of these employees had been in the agency a long time and several of them were appointed by Clinton (many were there beforehand).

“Obama is just a brief Phenomenon. Americans usually are fascinated by Mysteries. We are getting to know him more and more. Stories about him are getting more interesting and his true color is more apparent now. People will feel deceived by his lies.”
>>>>>>>>>>>
Once you correct the spelling of
“deceived”, you get a whole new perspective!

Now you see her, now you don’t,
Slick Sarah is going to make
everything more open.
Is she also promising to make
everything more truthful by
not telling any more lies?

Just posting a reminder of some truth since liberals are concerned about “getting back to the issues.” The issue of bipartisanship is a major one in this election and the washington times analyzed the REAL DATA ie bill sponsorships and party line votes.
This story should be splashed all over the MSM if the MSM was respectable and balanced, but it tells a more true story of bipartisanship so I just happened to get the link from a blog.The whole “same as bush” for McCain and “new kind of politician” are brought back down to earth.
Obama’s 97% party line voting is change? And McCains 85% republican party line voting is same as Bush? This analysis is based off of voting records and bill sponsors so REAL NUMBERS not BS rhetoric.
washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/15/records-show-mccain-more-bipartisan

That was not the condition. No amount of spin will change that Obama said he would take public financing if McCain did; point blank.
Obama has done nothing to stop 527s regardless of what the media tells you. Obama has been silent while moveon and other 527s have done several ads.
I can understand why Obama would want 527s out though. Democrats this year have the MSM bought and sold so they have billions of dollars worth of free marketing. However even the billions of dollars worth of free air time won’t be enough to shoehorn in an inexperienced, socialist party line hack like Obama. The American people aren’t that dumbed down (yet).

“That was not the condition. No amount of spin will change that Obama said he would take public financing if McCain did; point blank.”
OBAMA: “Yes. I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests. I introduced public financing legislation in the Illinois State Senate, and am the only 2008 candidate to have sponsored Senator Russ Feingold’s (D-WI) bill to reform the presidential public financing system. In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (r-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.” (Sen. Barack Obama, “Midwest Democracy Network Presidential Candidate Questionnaire: The Responses Of John Edwards And Barack Obama,” Midwest Democracy Network, Released 11/27/07)
McCain turned all of his primary money over to be used by the RNC.
“Obama has done nothing to stop 527s regardless of what the media tells you. Obama has been silent while moveon.org and other 527s have done several ads.”
Obama let go of the reins this week and this week is the first time you have seen any ads by liberal 527s.

Also Ryan C since you posted a quote from Obama; where is the 527 clause?

“Cryos
MONEY IN YOUR POCKET UNDER DEMOCRATS:
LOSING YOUR HOME UNDER REPUBLICANS;
WHICH IS YOUR CHOICE.
A FOOL MAKES THE SAME MISTAKE OVER AND OVER..
CHECK OUT THE CENSUS FOR INCOME OF AMERICANS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, AND WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT.”
FYI this is a simple minded explanation for several reasons a couple of which I’ll list.
1. Congress passed laws the president signs them. The executive branch does have some leeway with policy
2. The people who are losing their homes are mostly the morons who couldn’t figure out what an ARM loan is or that got a house knowing they couldn’t afford it.
3. Policy can take several years to take effect. Some budget/policy changes have an immediate effect but many changes take a lot of time.

Obama said he was foregoing the $85 million in public funding he could have received because it tied his hands — and because the campaign finance system was allegedly slanted toward his expected Republican challenger, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).Accusing McCain of being “fueled by contributions from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs,” Obama said that 527s tied to McCain and the Republican National Committee are “spending millions and millions in unlimited donations” to attack him.

Underdog you are making yourself look foolish; please do yourself a favor and stop. The EFFECTS of a bill take several years to take effect.
Here’s a more concrete example that has an analogy to less concrete policy changes. If a bill passes to build a new government building, do you go out the next morning and the building is magically already there because the bill passed?

“3. Policy can take several years to take effect. Some budget/policy changes have an immediate effect but many changes take a lot of time.”
I agree it took until recently for us to feel the full brunt of Republican deregulation and removing of oversight.
And now we pay dearly for their policies.

“”You already posted Obama’s quote showing that he broke his word”
How so?
Obama specifically sought to limit the influence of national party spending.
McCain would have none of that.
Why would McCain give up his advantage of party financing?”
Nice try to switch subjects.

“Point is Cryos is that Republicans have had control of the Senate, the House, the Judicail and Executive Branch for 7 years.
You do agree with that do you not.”
Actually no one has control of the judicial branch. Most of Bush’s appointees have been in permanent delayed status. McCain joined the bipartisan coalition to help get some appointments through. Just another bipartisan attempt by the real bipartisan candidate. FYI in 2001 Jeffords went independant so republicans “controlled” the senate with 49 like democrats now. And it was 6 years for the record.
Katrina – Katrina was underestimated and FEMA didn’t have the resources. The Fed is supposed to ASSIST the state and the state didn’t call in aid until it was too late. The fed dropped the ball but only after the state and local governments dropped the ball. And the ignorant people of NO were stupid enough to elect the same mayor.
Notice natural disasters in other places don’t have the same effect and people get back on their feet not staying in trailers for years afterwards never trying to get a job.
9/11 on their watch – THe events leading to 911 happened on Clinton’s watch. The censorship of “Path to 911″ is evidence of who has something to hide having to do with 911. Remember also in 1993 the trade center was bombed under clintons watch also.
Iraq war on their watch – I don’t agree with the Iraq war either from the stated reasons.
Largest foreclosure since the GREAT DEPRESSION on their watch – Bad decisions and loans were made helping contribute to this. Part of the deregulation was due to politically correct liberal type policies. Both parties are to blame and don’t forget the biggest beneficaries of contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac went to Dodd, Clinton and Obama all democrats.
BANK GOING BANKRUPT on their watch. – This is due to greed. It will do good for some of these banks to go under as it will serve as a lesson in the future to the effects of bad policy. Bad business decisions = you go out of business.

James Danley
PEANUTS, SO LET CALL IT 6 YEARS. EVEN THOUGH, THEY CAN’T MAKE A BILL THE VERY FIRST DAY THEY GOT IN OFFICE, I THINK THEY WOULD WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT ABOUT REAL CHANGE.
NOT LIKE THE REPUBLICANS THEY ONLY TALK TO THE LOBBIEST.

“April 2001 – December 2003: The Democrats controlled the Senate.”
Jeffords left the GOP party at the end of May 2001.
The GOP regained control of the Senate during the 2002 election. Senators being serving on Jan 1st 2003.

Palin puts MOOSE FOOT IN MOUTH
She state that she was not knowledgeable to be a CEO of a company like HP.

Well at least we know the answer to the answer to the question, Do you know Bush’s Philosophy? It seems that Sarah Palin has extensive knowledge of his philosophy and practices it as well, if you don’t want to answer to the people, well just don’t.

The Lt; Col likes lists with fake fact…let’s have some fun!
“1) According to CNN and ABC (Aug 08), half of Obama’s contributors have given $1,000 or more.”
50% of Obama’s donors gave $200 or less (opensecrets)
“2) Obama does not want you to know that the number one (#1) receiver of Fanny Mae and Fanny Mac, Congressional Donor Recipient, John Johnson, was Obama’s VP candidate.”
Obama got about $110K from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac employees. Chris Dodd was the top receiver of donations from employees of those groups. Jim Johnson headed up Obama’s VP search committee.
3) Obama was the number two (#2) on the Fanny Mae and Fanny Mac, Congressional Donor Recipient list.”
Which contradicts point 2. And its Freddie Mac.
4) Obama refused to hold debates initially with Senator Clinton and now Senator McCain.
There were 22 debates between Hillary & Obama. Obama offered to debate McCain on July 4th. McCain refused. McCain also refused to debate Huckabee when they were the last two GOP hopefuls.
I could go on but you get the point.
Why do right wingers offer up dumb lies in their smears?

“TANNING BED GOVERNANCE:
Cover yourself in a protective shield and pretend everything is sunny.”
Line of the day!

“2) Obama does not want you to know that the number one (#1) receiver of Fanny Mae and Fanny Mac, Congressional Donor Recipient, John Johnson, was Obama’s VP candidate.”
Obama got about $110K from Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac employees. Chris Dodd was the top receiver of donations from employees of those groups. Jim Johnson headed up Obama’s VP search committee.
3) Obama was the number two (#2) on the Freddie and Fannt Funds Congressional Donor Recipient list.”
Which contradicts NOTHING.
This is NOT new news!. It is just NEWS that the press has avoided publicizing because it might cause Obama’s ears to wriggle, and cause him to cry.
And, by the way….. you keep mentioning 22 Hillary/Obama speeches.
There were an awful lot of them done under wraps then.
And as for McCain declining on a Holiday, I don’t blame him.
Besides, HE didn’t want speechifying; HE wanted a return to the town hal kind of talks…… but Obama doesn’t fare well in that type of a set up.

“And, by the way….. you keep mentioning 22 Hillary/Obama speeches.
There were an awful lot of them done under wraps then.”
Its 22 debates not speeches. Nearly all of them were on TV.
“And as for McCain declining on a Holiday, I don’t blame him.”
Maybe McCain if elected could take on Bush’s vaunted most days on vacation record.

“27) Obama clearly has the bloodline of VP Chaney.”
So this is something the “liberal media” doesn’t want us to know?
That’s rich… I guess you don’t watch TV. This has been discussed to the point of Jay Leno and Obama joking about it on The Tonight Show.
As for the rest, I suggest you have FOX report on it, unless you’re willing to say that they’re a part of “liberal media” as well.

C’mon Doc. You can do better than a mere 27 infractions, can’t you?
Posted by: Lila | Sep 16, 2008 7:48:53 PM
_________________
HOW ABOUT THE OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES…..lots more than a mere 27, and
GROWING every day!
Try it!
You’ll hate it….
BUT
THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE!

“Its 22 debates not speeches. Nearly all of them were on TV.”
As I said, most of them must have been done under wraps in the middle of the night,……or on channels unavailable to us lowly folk here in Illinois where we suffer through the highest taxes in the country!

“As I said, most of them must have been done under wraps in the middle of the night,……”
No, nearly every single one was broadcast live on TV, from cspan to cable networks to quite a few on network TV.
Since you repeated what you said even though you were informed it was wrong, now I have to call you a liar.
“or on channels unavailable to us lowly folk here in Illinois where we suffer through the highest taxes in the country!”
If you can’t afford cable, you’re not paying the highest tax rates in the country.

Thanks again for the correction, Ryan C. Your right, it should have been December 2002.
Beckie, don’t hold your breath waiting for the shoe to drop regarding Troopergate. In 2006 the state investigators found the trooper guilty of “a significant pattern of judgment failure.” This pattern included the tasering of his 10 year-old stepson, drinking beer while in his state trooper vehicle, and killing a moose out of season. The trooper was never fired. He was given a 5-day suspension. The trooper’s boss, Walt Monegan, has already stated that neither Gov. Palin nor her husband, Todd Palin, requested him to fire the trooper. Although he says he felt “pressure” to fire him.
Now as for the firing of Walt Monegan, as a member of Gov. Palin’s cabinet, she can fire him for ANY reason. However, Gov. Palin fired him because he opposed her budget priorities.

“The trooper’s boss, Walt Monegan, has already stated that neither Gov. Palin nor her husband, Todd Palin, requested him to fire the trooper. Although he says he felt “pressure” to fire him.”
That Todd Plain contacted this guy at all is extremely improper. We also have the issue of confidential information being leaked. You may remember the Linda Tripp scenario. This is similar.
“Now as for the firing of Walt Monegan, as a member of Gov. Palin’s cabinet, she can fire him for ANY reason. However, Gov. Palin fired him because he opposed her budget priorities.”
That is what she claims in documents her lawyer filed.
Meanwhile her failure to release emails indeed her use of personal email accounts to conduct public business are something that should be looked at.

“Why did she give his replacement, Kopp, a $10,000 severence package after 11 …”
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Why not?
Obama and his wee church paid off his pastor to the tune of $10,000,000 in the form of a “retirement fund”…. and through in a multi-million dollar mini-mansion to sweeten the deal!
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WHAT THE HECK DOES OBAMA’S CHURCH’S DONATIONS TO THEIR PASTOR HAVE TO DO WITH PALIN AWARDING KOPP $10,000 OF STATE MONEY?
The former deals with private, personal funds donated by consenting adults to their pastor. The latter deals with the near theft of taxpayer’s hard earned dollars going to cover up Palin’s lies about Troopergate!! You can’t compare apples to crocodiles.

Beckie,
The blog erases all links.
Just let people know what you want them to look for on google.

I’m a young minority male who embraces the hip hop culture and dress accordingly. Hip hop influences my style, music, vernacular, and mindset. For those who are quick to stereotype, I’m sure my presence evokes thoughts of thuggery. However, I am a college graduate, gainfully employed, and advancing in a promising career. Having grown up in a large urban city, I know my share of thugs. And trust me, the republicans are no different than the typical street hoodlums. The manner in which the republicans have conducted this campaign is nothing less than gangster politics. The street “dogs” that I know can only aspire to be as shrewd, cutthroat, and sinister, as the “Rethuglican” party. Damn, I wish I had coined that term!

Whoops! My bad. Update. The count for John McCain’s transgressions are up from 70 to 76. Google: “Jukebox John keeps changing his tune.” Obama has a looooong way to go to catch up with J-Mac. With only 27 infractions, Obama still won’t come close to matching John McCain’s outrageous record of asinine misgivings, missteps, mismanagement and mispicking of Sarah Palin. Keep lying John. I love to watch your numbers grow.

Palin is as transparent as mud. What a joke. To think of her possibly taking over for McCain as president makes me want to run for the hills. She must have a tremendous ego to think that she has the body of knowledge to run the country. And McCain, in choosing her, proved not only that he is NOT a maverick (if he was a true maverick he would have chosen Lieberman, who McCain really wanted), but he’s weak as well. He caved to the “base.”

Well… guess what?
Her beloved yahoo email account has been phished.
an individual was able to guess the password (making this a phishing attack, not a hack).
screencaps of several emails were taken.
then another individual comming from the same group felt bad and changed the password and notified the FBI.
just goes to show you:
Sarah Palin is not up to the standards of running the US.
Alaska is another story, but when you run the US, you have to CONSTANTLY scrutinize everything.
she just doesnt have what it takes.
the concept that her Yahoo account might not be secure did not even cross her mind, now she learns the hard way.

Monegan actually tried to stay off the radar and be deferential to the governor and let the investigation play out. But when she came out and lied about the contacts, he spoke out about the multiple meetings with Todd Palin AND contacts from Palin about the trooper just prior to being fired when he refused. Regardless of what the trooper did, that investigation wen through the proper channels and both his internal department review and the custody hearings were overseen by neutral and competent administrators. So, she says she fired him because he was seeking federal money to investigate sexual assault cases? And replaced him with a man with a known record of sexual harassment claims. This is the same woman who made rape victims pay for their own rape kits and would insist on her 14 year old daughter (the girl’s age at the time) not get an abortion even she were raped. And she won’t answer questions about it and won’t meet with an investigator or permit aides to testify. Wow. She may be a woman, but she clearly HATES women. Well, I guess she gets along just fine with McCain who voted againt Biden’s Violence Against Women Act and nominated his wife for the stripper contest.

Stalinism is when a government rules through secrecy, kind of like what Palin is doing. Both candidates want things to be more transparent but not being able to see all of Palins records, and McCain helping her hide them is like Stalinism. Russia uses the same tactics to keep its population in the dark.

I think the real story here is in how she is handling this controversy. Public life is filled with controversy. Being transparent is the first requirement of a public servant. Those who try to obfuscate the truth and claim to be above the law because they are public servants .. are not public servants. LOL They are people who consider themselves masters and owed rights that the rest of us are not.

My question now is, will Palin only answer scripted questions? All canidates: Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin should be asked ‘gothca’ questions to catch them off guard. They are all only human. Hannity can ask good questions, but I know he favors her, so how tough will his questions be. O’Rilley grilled Obama. I would like to see him on Hannity and Combs.

Jake,
I think it’s egregiously misleading for you to mention Obama’s “broken promise” on public financing without mentioning the much greater sin: McCain’s use and misuse of the public financing system to keep his campaign alive and withdrawal when he didn’t need it any more.

Sarah Palin is abusing her position as governor. I have researched and followed this investigation – “Troopergate” – since she was chosen Republican Vice President. Huge problems of abuse are there!! Legislature vote for investigation 100% – Republicans and Democrats. Then voted who would be on committee. Voted to hire private investigator. Approved attorney Branchflower. Evidence has already been submitted that is damaging to Sarah Palin. That evidence is what was presented to legilature.
McCain Campaign has come in. Problems present. Claims Democrats problem. But forget 10 Republicans and only 4-5 Democrats on committee.
Sarah with hold information. Claims “executive privilege”. Sarah Palin and her administration use private email accounts in secrecy to avoidance Public REcords Act.
Divorce Court Records reveal Palin Family claims Trooper Wooten dangerous were only by Palin family themselves. No good planning, startegies to catch Wooten is he is danger. No audio ttapes, no video tapes, no documentation, no outside witnesses. One Protection Order was given, but never extended as family provided no proof. Court transcripts reveal divorce trial judge warned Palin Family to stop vendetta to have Wooten fired. That was three years ago. Vendetta continued. Trooper Wooten continues to pursuing this vendetta to destroy Wooten. This is a personal issue. If Wooten is a threat – Palin family could lodge new complaint with their local police department. Palin family could sue in court.
Sarah Palin political history reveals similiar patterns. Personal feelings seem to become issue in business
Whole investigation is a total cover-up.
This lady is lying about this!! American this lady is dangerous!!

Sara actually is transparent, we can see right through her! – and we can see Russia too!

It’s hilarious that she uses a yahoo account to avoid subpoena, containing mail with subject lines of “confidential ethics investigations” and other government matters, and then she loses her pass to that account to a bunch of pranksters.
Transparent? Please.
Incompetent? Yes.

Is this candidate for real! As VP would she risk national security because she is so obsessed with secrecy that she’d bypass a secure account and use yahoo? A lot more dangerous things could happen than having a thrill-seeking hacker get sensitive information. That’s some maverick.

It is ironic that someone in virtual hiding from the press is talking about transparency.

Lay off Palin – go after someone you really can’t trust – OBAMA/MICHELLE!