By Natalie Gewargis

Sep 9, 2008 11:06am

In a Not-Remotely-Comic Strip, Bill Ayers Weighs In on What He Meant By ‘We Didn’t Do Enough’ to End Vietnam War

In a four-panel not-even-remotely-comic strip, William Ayers, the former member of the Weather Underground and associate of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., weighs in on his blog on some of the controversy he’s been causing.

comic strip 4 In a Not Remotely Comic Strip, Bill Ayers Weighs In on What He Meant By We Didnt Do Enough to End Vietnam War It reads:

"From his Chicago home, Bill Ayers responds to the ‘We didn’t do enough,’ statement, a soundbite echoing ad nauseam through the media."

Says the Ayers cartoon: "It’s impossible to get to be my age and not have plenty of regrets. The one thing I don’t regret is opposing the war in Vietnam with every ounce of my being.

"During the Vietnam war, the Weather Underground took credit for bombing several government installations as a dramatic form of armed propaganda. Action was taken against symbolic targets in order to declare a state of emergency. But warnings were always called in, and by design  no one was ever hurt.

"When I say, ‘We didn’t do enough,’ a lot of people rush to think, ‘That must mean, "We didn’t bomb enough s—."’ But that’s not the point at all. It’s not a tactical statement, it’s an obvious political and ethical statement. In this context, ‘we’ means ‘everyone.’

"The war in Vietnam was not only illegal, it was profoundly immoral, millions of people were needlessly killed. Even though I worked hard to end the war, I feel to this day that I didn’t do enough because the war dragged on for years after the majority of the American people came to oppose it. I don’t think violent resistance is necessarily the answer, but I do think opposition and refusal is imperative."

I don’t think violent resistance is NECESSARILY the answer?

- jpt

User Comments

and the Dumbocrats don’t thinks this guys association with Obama isn’t an issue for the average voter!!!!!

Posted by: RL | September 9, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Keep talking, Bill. Please, keep talking.

Posted by: Woody | September 9, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

“The war in Vietnam was not only illegal, it was profoundly immoral, millions of people were needlessly killed.” Well, if we replace the word Viet Nam with Iraq the statement would still be true. Don’t forget that Obama was a very young person (around 4-8 yrs. old) when Ayer was involved. So tell me, why are we talking about this anyway???

Posted by: y.sister | September 9, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

When you mention the “Weather Underground,” violence is EVERYTHING. This latest spin is completely inconsistent with everything the Weathermen stood for. I believe Ayers as far as I can throw him. Naturally, Ayers didn’t bother to mention the group’s desire to overthrow this country for socialism, and Obama was right there to agree with Ayers. That’s subject for another time. As Woody says, “keep talking…”

Posted by: Gina | September 9, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Lie!!!
The Brinks robbery happened in 1981, long after the war was ended.

Posted by: TT | September 9, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

No. Violence is the answer only when it involves a mis-directed war where we’ll lose the lives of thousands of courageous young men and women and that leaves our country even more vulnerable to outside threats and violence.
That’s when violence is the answer.

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

this is the problem with a written statement, the commentator is selecting where the emphasis will be in the sentence and therefore skew the meaning. I DON’T agree with what this man associated himself with during the war, warnings or no, that no one was injured by design or luck is not the point. (BTW terrorists don’t send warnings for them the intent is to kill to make their point) What he did was the wrong way to stand up to the government when you think they are wrong and that is what he is saying. The majority of the people in this county believe the war in Iraq to be wrong, the President has flat out told us that it had nothing to do with 9/11, there is a clear consensus that He mislead us regarding the reasons why we invaded, then lied further to keep us there. He, his administration and his party have spent American lives recklessly, and called anyone who disagreed unpatriotic or unamerican. Yet the McCain-bots will vilify Bill Ayers to make you afraid of Sen. Obama. I would say McCain has a much deeper association with George Bush, who is directly and personally responsible for over 4000 American deaths in a war fought for his own pique. Who do you think is more questionable.

Posted by: Louis | September 9, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

y. sister – your point is correct, of course, but we’re talking about Obama’s association with Ayers during the 1990s at the time when Ayers said that “we did’t do enough…” Obama was with him at the time. Obama began his political career with the help of Ayers during the 1990s.

Posted by: Gina | September 9, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

His Wife read the statement on the Radio
Where the weatherman Declare War on America.
That is T reasons and Terrorism.
Then they proceeded to set off bombs.
Especially when they come back and said they did not do enough.
Showing they would Influence others to do the same or worse.
Now one of his good friends are running for President. A close friendship and very close working relationship of over 20 years. Some one who was older and had influence over Mr Obama.
From his community organizing days until present. Mr obama has known, worked and lived by Mr Ayers. They ran around in the same circle of friends for over 20 years. A very close group from Hyde park, University of Chicago and University Hospital.
 1987 Michelle Obama and Bernadette Dorin (Ayers wife worked at the same law firm in Chicago Sidley Austin.
Obama’s community organizing was done on the South Side of Chicago. Ayers was involved in that and So Was Acorn. That is when Obama joined the Woods fund as a Director on the board.  Then Chaired the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.
Chicago Annenberg Challenge which Obama was the chairperson. Ayers co-chaired, Hired
Mike Klonsky - Known Communist
Ken Rolling, from Woods Fund of Chicago
Mr Obama’s Campaign was launched at Mr Ayers home.
The Ayers and the Obama’s go way back together. They did many things as friends.

Posted by: seah | September 9, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Gina, please be specific. How did Ayers help Obama start his career? I’ve read Obama’s books and must have missed that.

Posted by: obamamama | September 9, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

What’s your point Jake? Why do you want to feed the narrative that Barrack in some way condones or supports the actions of Bill Ayer’s 40+ years ago; Just because he was on the same board with him. Give me a break! This is why we havhad an idiot for a president for 8 years. this is why we are going through 10B dollars a mionth on a needless war. This is why our economy is shot. And what will this type of narrative lead us to.. McCain-Palin. wow! That will be great for our country, a warmonger and wingnut!

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

You only have to visit the Viet nam memorial to know we didn’t do enough soon enough to end that crazy war.Thousands of American lives cut short for a failed foreign policy and its ideology. Sound familiar? I didn’t agree with your tactics but your cause were admirable.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

And who got the US into Vietnam? president John F Kennedy who started the US involvement by sending ‘advisors’! Who deepened the US involvement in Vietnam? President Lyndon B Johnson! What party did these two presidents belong to? Why the DEMOCRATIC party! Who finally got the US out of Vietnam in spite of not being the best that he could be? NIXON a republican! I have not forgotten Vietnam either! Nor have I forgotten the party and its leaders who got us into it and then set up America for failure!

Posted by: No Bama No Democrat | September 9, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Ayers and Obama: Two peas in the same pod!

Posted by: dl | September 9, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am

GHM
You’re really in panic mode. Aren’t you?

Posted by: dl | September 9, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Obama, Ayers, Wright are brainwashing young people.

Posted by: sally | September 9, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Thankyou Billy Ayres, you just keep speaking your mind. I think it’s about time for The Good Rev. Wright to give us his opinion also, maybe we can coax him out of hiding as well. Tony Rezko?, well he is a little tied now….so I don’t think we will be hearing from him. Also keep trying to send my gal Hillary out on the trail remind those women voters what could have been.

Posted by: Jim | September 9, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

NO BAMA……Eisenhower sent the first “advisers” to Viet Nam.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Obama was an employee and co-worker of Ayres. is that clear enough?

Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Steve – in 1995, Palmer gathered her supporters in Hyde Park at Ayers home and introduced Obama, obtained agreemetns to proved financial support for Obama to run for Palmer’s seat.
That is of course before Palmer changed her mind after she lost the congressional race for US house, and then Obama showed the world his first instinct – restrict free choice, bump Palmer on a technicality and win unopposed.
Too bad that won’t work this time.

Posted by: JG | September 9, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am

“Association” is a word that has been bandied about quite a bit. What exactly does that mean? It’s pretty vague. Have you all vetted every member of every board you’ve ever served on?
Posted by: obamamama | Sep 9, 2008 11:22:50 AM
I don’t care that he served on a board with him. I an concerned that he chose Obama for these boards and launched Obama’s career in politics with a fund-raiser in his home.

Posted by: RealisticLib | September 9, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

HEY GHM:
Biden & Obama voted FOR the bridge to nowhere!!

Posted by: Sally | September 9, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Ayers is no different than Timothy McVeigh except he missed his mark.
And Obama calls this man respectable, and of all people Obama chooses the guy that bombed the Pentagon to launch his career.
Great judgement.
Meanwhile the MSM attacks Palin because her daughter got pregnant.

Posted by: riley | September 9, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Attention Obama! You can run but you can’t hide!

Posted by: dl | September 9, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Barack Obama’s most important administrative leadership experience, helming an expensive educational reform effort in Chicago that failed to produce any measurable academic gains, according to the project’s own final report. …
The four plus years (1995-1999) Barack Obama spent as founding chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) represent his track record as reformer, as someone who reached out in a public-private collaboration and had the audacity to believe his effort would make things better. At the time he became leader of this ambitious project to remake the public schools of Chicago, he was 33 years old and a third year associate at a small Chicago law firm, Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.
This was a big test for him, his chance to cut his teeth on bringing hope and change to the mostly minority inner city school children trapped in Chicago schools. And he flopped big time, squandering lots of money and the time of many public employees in the process.

Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

HEY GHM:
Biden & Obama voted FOR the bridge to nowhere!!

Posted by: Sally | September 9, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Obama/Biden–ARE the Bridge To Nowhere

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 9, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

GHM | Sep 9, 2008 11:28:40 AM
No one of them is the truth, he doesn’t know how many homes he’s got. How about:
The vetting process was thorough – LIES
I put country first – LIES
Honor – LIES

Posted by: Sanity Man | September 9, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

linda n carolina, you are right, Kennedy was the first to openly commit combat troops to Vietnam. Eisenhower, a republican continued the support in the form ‘adivsor’s to Vietnam that Truman a Democrat had as already committed the US to.
In fact, until Bush and the Iraq fiasco, A Democrat has held the office of president during each start of major combat/war the US has committed itself to.

Posted by: No Obama No Democrat | September 9, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Instead of attacking Palin’s choice of books the MSM should vet all of Obama’s radical friends.
How about the guy that got him into Harvard–AL-Monsour?
How about his connection to ACORN?
ACORN in some states has been connected to voter fraud.
Time to vet Obama.

Posted by: sally | September 9, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

The “bridge to no where” did go somewhere.
It went from the American taxpayer to a bank in Alaska.
Sorry, Sarah, your, “Thanks, but no thanks,” sales pitch is nothing but a lie.

Posted by: newz4i | September 9, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

So, this statement is for what? Is it to make Americans think his earlier statement was taken out of context and that we have nothing to be concerned about regarding his close relationship with Barack “my muslim faith” Obama?
Excuse me, but I didn’t see an, “I’m sorry for the bombings” anywhere in his cartoon. Oh, I forgot, that would be an admission of guilt. The man is still an unrepentant domestic terrorist and criminal reprobate who should be making license plates in a federal penitentiary.
As for Obama, I think his association with this man dis-qualifies him for the office of POTUS.

Posted by: Ken B. | September 9, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

by design no one was hurt? give me a break your BOMBING stuff!

Posted by: Jexem | September 9, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

HEY SALLY: Obama and Biden aren’t the ones claiming they were against the bridge.

Posted by: who | September 9, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Do not care who
he talks with its
a free country until
someone like McBush
gang of Lame Brains
take power…
Talk can be more
powerful that blowing
something up…
it can keep people
like Bush from
Blowing some country
up by mistake
and with American
Deaths Now standing
at over 4,000

Posted by: Anita Yova | September 9, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am

All the McCain / Paling like to talk tough about the war and “good ole family values”. They dont measure up. They keep trying to bring Obama by making him guilty by association, its a really arguement. Look at the economy. look at how bad it is. McCain admitted that he knows nothing about the economy and look at how Palin has the tendencies to be corrupt. Conservatives want to fight Democrats and the world and its costing everybody thier lives. Im sick of it. Im for Dimplomacy not facism. Im voting for Obama.

Posted by: babor | September 9, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

So, Obama friend and supporter Bill Ayers thinks bombing symbolic targets is okay as long as no one gets hurt?
Obama supporter Ayers suggests “if you don’t like it, bomb it?”
Is Ayers another “old uncle” or another “spiritual mentor?”
Extremism at its finest…
We need to know more…
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 9, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

This isn’t an issue for the “average” voter; but it’s definitely an issue for the “stupid” voter.

Posted by: geecee | September 9, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

What about Sarah Palin and her husband’s “association” to a national separatist organization?

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Sorry Republicans–Obama and Bill Ayers could make out on camera and I still wouldn’t vote for John McCain. The Weather Underground doesn’t scare me. Your party’s policies do.

Posted by: Hils | September 9, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

If this were a communist state. like he wants it to be, he would in a prison, or more than likely executed years ago.

Posted by: Jexem | September 9, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

The media should vet Obama! He has been cuddled by the media as their God-child who must be protected from scrutiny! Now, the media wants blood from Palin! Draw some from Obama, get to his Harvard funding, his earmarks/pork barrell ($1million a day of taxpayer money for Obama)! Cha-Cha-Ching.. Change that you can believe in!

Posted by: Daniel G Garcia | September 9, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Will
That was Sunday’s talking point. You’re running late!

Posted by: dl | September 9, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

And to think … Obama knew all of this stuff about Wright and Ayers (OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN SINCE HE’S SOOOOO SMART)yet he still associated with them in a meaningful way. Scary. Very, very scary.

Posted by: Kitty | September 9, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Will-Palin is not running for President.

Posted by: Jexem | September 9, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

It’s so easy to forget the tragedy of war. Knee-Jerk McCain will promote a continuous war modality to prop up the military-industrial greedy oligarchs and we all know it. The Repubs and Independents that are mindlessly groping for McCain-Palin victory will be horrified the day after they’re elected and the same neo-con idiots are appointed to run things while McCain takes a Reaganesque back seat… except for the occasional declaration of “peace keeping activities” at the end of a gun barrel. Obama will peel back some of the veils that protect these war mongers… and that’s what has them terrified. The only reason McCain even has a chance is that the media is manipulating public opinion to think Palin’s inexperience is a virtue and that the killing of millions of Iraqis has been vindicated by the “success” of the “surge”. On the inside everyone knows it was really a buy-out of the Sunni insurgents. Such skillful lying.

Posted by: dayOfPeace | September 9, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

WAKE UP
WE CANNOT VOTE FOR OBAMA-BIDEN!
John McCain for President.

Posted by: John | September 9, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

DL,
Barack Obama was 8 yrs old when Ayers was active.

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

On the contrary RL, this is an issue for the average voter because the average voter has the intellectual capacity of a 5-6th grader – hence the reading level newspapers are aimed at. The highest reading level of any paper is the 10th grade. Reading level obviously doesn’t translate directly into IQ or common sense, but there is a strong corollary.

Posted by: All that | September 9, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Jexem,
The only constitutional requirement for a Vice President is to be able to be President. Same qualifications.

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Any associations that may be dug up by the Axelrod smear machine cannot even come close to the Bill Ayers connection.
Think about it…
Would you rather have a Senator/veteran/POW and the Governor of Alaska in the White House…
Or, would you rather have the most liberal, left-wing Senators in the United States with friends like anarchist/bomber Bill Ayers…
The choice is clear…
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 9, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Wade,
Don’t forget who Ayer’s father worked for and how much money that company pours into Obama’s campaign. Commonwealth Edison or Exelon.

Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Jake, sometimes your post are nothing more than a soundbite. Shouldn’t they be more in depth? You call Obama an “associate” of Ayers – barely. ALso, you put Obama/Ayers together, but no comment from Obama?. I’ll provide it for you:
Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.

Posted by: Paige | September 9, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Obama, Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Michelle.
Fine examples of patriots !!!

Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | September 9, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Will, did you not see his cartoon creation? He is active now. He’s not remorseful and thinks bombing people’s property (and quite possibly people) is OK. That is n-o-w. Not when Obama was 8.

Posted by: Kitty | September 9, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Will,
Go home and get updated talking points.

Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am

“Bill Ayers…
Despicable. This man should be shunned. Obama’s judgment? The biggest joke of all.

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

NYT reporting Obama has money troubles. MSNBC reported the same thing. Hmmmm.

Posted by: USVet | September 9, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Paige,
Please don’t be like Will. Ayers and Obama worked together for many years.

Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

A window into the soul of Obama emerges in the company he keeps…
When Obama takes money from Ayers, that makes the association clear…
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 9, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

What I really find interesting is that Ayers’ and his son opening support Hugo Chavez; with Ayers’ son going so far as to write a book praising Chavez’. Venezuela is on the list of governments that are actively committing human rights violations, and was on the list at the time that Ayers’ flew to Venezuela to speak at a convention, where he heaped praise on Chavez. Now we have Chavez inviting Russia to conduct naval military training maneuvers in the gulf. Obama is tied to Ayers at the hip? Why doesn’t Obama step down for his obvious conflict of interest here. He got his first job in a law firm was due to Ayers’ senior. Michelle worked with Ayers’ wife. Then Ayers appointed an unqualified and inexperienced Obama to HEAD his foundation to put the progressive (euphemistic for socialism) agenda into the school curriculum. I will never vote for Obama and I am just sick that the media was afraid to expose these things while the primary was going on. If the media had done its job, we would not be facing a republican landslide this November.

Posted by: Deborah from Oklahoma | September 9, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

We’ve killed about 100,000 civilians in Iraq and with bombs going after Weapons of Mass Destruction that did not exist and destroying a country that had NO ties to 9/11. We’ve lost 4500 of our honored soldiers and some of you are worried about a college professor?

Posted by: Paige | September 9, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Ayers bombings did hurt people! Ayers is coming out, because he a good friend of Obama’s.

Posted by: lm | September 9, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Bush is still an unrepentant International terrorist and criminal reprobate who should be making license plates in a federal penitentiary. ………………….
As for McSame, I think his association with GW. Bush dis-qualifies him for the office of POTUS. Good Day.

Posted by: Anita Yova | September 9, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Wake up America: This campaign should be about the issues. Are you better off than you were 8 years ago? Like the Republican ideology? Then by all means vote for McCain. It’s that simple.Do you think Palin is qualified to be President if something happens to McCain? Vote the McCain ticket.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Don’t know how you get off calling Ayers an Obama “associate.” Read the dictionary.

Posted by: 7worldtrade | September 9, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Interesting article. The liberals dogging republicans now claiming that they are war hungery you might want to take a trip back to the time Ayers was speaking of. The Vietnam war was a creation and failure of the democrats. It was the republicans who ended it.

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

Paige: Obama and Ayers became close with Ayers donating money to Obama’s campaign and Obama having dinners with him. I believe Obama as an attorney for Rezko became acquainted with Ayers. Obama should have used common sense in choosing friends like Rezko and Ayers along with attending a racist church with a racist pastor that didn’t preach the gospel only talked about this country and white people. But Obama was a racist before he belonged to that church disliking his mother’s race.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 9, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

“college professor”
Unrepentant domestic terrorist. I wonder if the anarchists that were violently protesting at the RNC were students of his?

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Jake, did you receive this tidbit from McCain’s oppo research squad? Just in time to deflect attention from what Gov. Palin has actually said and done regarding the Bridge to Nowhere, seeking federal pork as both a mayor and governor, claiming per diem for nights spent in her own house, and of course troopergate. well done

Posted by: Kbill | September 9, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

This is what the radical DNC has given us – Obama has more skeletons in his closet than a horror show. Brazile, Pelosi, Dean and Reid need to be tossed overboard. We don’t need a President with the types of associations that Obama has and half of them haven’t even been revealed yet. No-Bama, no Ayers,m No Odinga, No Wright, no McPeak, No Axelfraud, no no no….no Bama EVER !!!

Posted by: jimbo | September 9, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

I don’t think violent resistance is NECESSARILY the answer?
The Declairation of Independence says “when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
So violence is an option but only NESSESSARY when disolving the government.
Having lived through those times I can say that youthful passions (and treats by the government that you are going to br drafted and sent to a war that you do not think is legal or a threat)have been replaced by more thoughtful and passive ideas by most of the protest leaders. Some that went underground grew to be main stream suburban middle class civic leaders.
This Ayers thing is really just a smear. All of the conservatives bow down to felon who beat the rap Oliver North who did much more harm than Ayers. They were both fanatics but Fox News still airs North regularly.

Posted by: Sanity Man | September 9, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Hello unholy triumvirate of OBAMA, REID, and PELOSI… bye, bye USA.
Welcome to the SOVIET SOCIALIST STATES of AMERICA, or SSSA.

Posted by: Ken B. | September 9, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

So lemme get this straight. Obama is against guns but wants to “blow up people” like Bill Ayers? Isn’t the contradictory?
BTW, Bill Ayers wasn’t a terrorist. Terrororist intend to kill their victims. They don’t give a pre-call in, as Ayers and the UG did. Regardless of whether his tactics were right or wrong (and they were wrong), that distraction has nothing to do with Barack Obama. He knows the guy from living in his neigborhood and spoke at a forum where Ayers also happened to be speaking. So what. Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of Chicago known for his academic credentials.
Some right-wingers keep playing the fear card. Fine job that’s done to the country they proclaim to put first.

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

“This Ayers thing is really just a smear”
Sorry Barry doesn’t get a pass.

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

“He knows the guy from living in his neigborhood and spoke at a forum where Ayers also happened to be speaking. So what.”
B.S. take your propaganda elsewhere.

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Jaxem,
I would be happy to discuss issues.
According to the republican party I am just a left wing liberal that is not a patriot because I don’t believe what they do, so I don’t think old fart war monger is to strong of a description for McSame.

Posted by: texas outlaw | September 9, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

McCain’s acceptance speech:
“Fight for what’s right for our country.
Fight for the ideals and character of a free people.
Fight for our children’s future.
Fight for justice and opportunity for all.
Stand up to defend our country from its enemies.
Stand up for each other; for beautiful, blessed, bountiful America.
Stand up, stand up, stand up and fight. Nothing is inevitable here. We’re Americans, and we never give up. We never quit. We never hide from history. We make history. ”
There is a lot of call for fighting, isn’t this what Ayers is talking about? So McCain is as much a terrorist as Tim McVeigh, or Ayers then.

Posted by: Sanity Man | September 9, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Mack: You are so right. I am born and raised in Chicago and was around in the days of Ayers. I remember him going underground after the bombing because the fed’s were searching for him. After he came up from under he got arrested but this country should have put him away for life. Three bombings was enough to do that. Now, the question is, why didn’t the courts do that. Obama and Ayer’s both live in Hyde Park and Obama has been at his house for dinner. Obama is keeping it cool in case he gets elected and you can bet on it that Ayers will be at the white house along with Farrakhan, Wright and Father P. This country doesn’t need a president who associates with crooks.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 9, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

This person is allowed his views. Its still a free America, Thank you God. If you know someone, it doesn’t mean you agree with them. I know some Republicans and we couldn’t be further apart on what we want. I believe that people are inherantly good, they believe big business is best.

Posted by: Brenda | September 9, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Sanity Man-
Jefferson meant voting out current leaders and placing a new government of the citizenry in place. States cannot declare war against the federal government. I think you’re confusing the word overthrow with voting. In addition, if Ayers and his cronies agreed to pay for the damages, then I’m all for his method of expression. Something tells me though, he and his cronies left damages to property solely for the taxpayers to clean up and pay for. That’s what liberals do.

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Texas Oulaw- Republicans don’t want to discuss issues. McCain’s campaign manager even stated this race is “not about the issues”. Many Neocons that post to the ABC site only know (to borrow from Biden) a noun, a verb, and Rezko, Ayers Wright.

Posted by: Paige | September 9, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

You Democrats might want to dig into the Ayers/Obama connection. Obama kicked off his political career in the Ayers living room, and they served on the Annenberg Challenge board together for 6 years or so.

Posted by: GregInSeattle | September 9, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Hope I’m not judged by all the people I’ve worked with, been associated with, or groups or boards I’ve been involved in. YIKES I’ve known people for years but not that much about their personal or past. Besides why doesn’t anyone mention the fact that Mayor Daley is the person who encouraged Obama to join this group. Why would the University of Chicago allow Ayers to be a professor there for most of his lifetime?

Posted by: SmileAlready | September 9, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

For all of you that think that Obama launched his campaign in Ayers living room and is a secret terrorist:
McCain’s election was launched at the Hanoi Hilton when he was programed by Red China to be come the Manchurian Candidate. READ THE BOOK IT IS ALL TRUE!
That’s about as believable as the Ayers is in with Obama line.

Posted by: Sanity Man | September 9, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

“I do think opposition and refusal is imperative.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 9, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Mack: Why don’t you join the club of Ayers and Obama so you can be right at home. Evidently you think Ayer was right in his bombing and Obama is right to associate with a radical. I have more respect for my country than that and Ayer’s didn’t. And they do know each other and speak to each other. Ayers is staying in seclusion from Obama but if he is elected he will come out of his cave.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 9, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

According to Ayers’ logic, those who oppose the Iraq War would be justified in bombing the Capitol, the Pentagon, and Police Stations. ‘Nuff said.

Posted by: marylou | September 9, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

‘I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Thanks, Samantha, for showing us the full article and the context. The group he was leading (including his lover) were planning to bomb Ft. Dix — before blowing themselves up. I read a statement from one of his writings saying essentially that her work should be honored.
A few more facts:
Mrs. Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, was jailed for refusing to testify before a grand jury investigating other Weather Underground members’ robbery of a Brinks truck, in which a guard and two New York State Troopers were killed.
Ayers boasts that he “participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972.” Of the day he bombed the Pentagon, Ayers says, “Everything was absolutely ideal. … The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.”
At a 1969 “War Council” in Flint, Michigan, Weatherman leader Bernardine Dohrn proclaimed that the time had come to launch a war against “Amerikkka” (Weatherman always spelled “America” this way, to convey the group’s belief that the nation was ineradicably racist to its core). Isn’t that spelling of America consistent with Rev. Wright’s spelling?

Posted by: katmandu | September 9, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

William Ayers is no better than the thugs who crashed planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 9/11. The only difference is that, unfortunately, the Islamic terrorists were competent. Also, it should be noted that some former Weather Underground members DID go on to kill innocent Americans via bombings and bank robberies.

Posted by: Patrick | September 9, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Okay, first off, exactly how close are Obama and Ayers? As I understand it, really not that close at all. One fundraiser and a few years on the same board don’t really make a close association.
Secondly, why drag an ageing man though this. He hasn’t engaged in terrorism since his association, however tenuous, with Obama. Nothing Obama has said or done suggests he supports any form of terrorism. Nothing Ayers has said or done, as far as I know, comes close to public support of Obama.

Posted by: markymark | September 9, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Marrian p.
How many people died from Ayres bombings?
How many people died in the bombings in Iraq?

Posted by: texas outlaw | September 9, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Did someone think this cartoon was going to HELP OBAMA?

Posted by: Lucille | September 9, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

mm – the Declairation was not about voting, it was about violent revolution to separate from Great Briton. The document states all of the previous attempts at peaceful redress of issues but in the end the Declairation says that separation and forming a new government was the only solution. Since the revolution had already started Jefferson would have know it was a violent one.

Posted by: Sanity Man | September 9, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Sanity Man: McCain doesn’t associate with people that set bombs off three times in this country but Obama for a college graduate didn’t use common sense in choosing his. Plus an attorney for a wheeler dealer crook that is going to prison. Attending a racist church. He certainly didn’t use this brains.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 9, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

Samantha…It is against our Constitution to invade a soverign nation that has not attacked us. While you would clearly like to tar and feather Mr. Ayers for free speech and civil disobedience, what do you think is fair punishment for someone who advocates going against our own rule of law and twisting intelligence to heighthen the justification for a war of choice and an invasion of a soverign nation that had not attacked his one. Pontification about Viet Nam should include the thousands of Vets who became Vets Against the War and Mothers Against the War who lost their children – Mr. Ayers is just one loud voice who while Senator Obama was just 8 years old at the time became a lightening rod for over-zealous “we’re right, you’re wrong” war supporters. There was nothing “civil” about Viet Nam and if you try and make a case against Ayers, then do the nation a favor and make the case against the present Administration that has at least 4,000 deaths to be accountable for.

Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | September 9, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Uhh… Jake? Since when was Obama and Ayers associates of each other?

Posted by: David | September 9, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

“Sanity” man,
Ayers is just one piece of the Obama puzzle. Look at his America-hating pastor of 20 years. Or his buddy, convicted felon Tony Rezko. Or, the guy who helped him get into Harvard, Khalid Al-Monsour. Even his wife seems to have disdain for her own country.

Posted by: GregInSeattle | September 9, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

So, how many months did it take this scum to come up with this “nuanced” B.S.?
He is repeating the “we weren’t trying to hurt anyone” meme, but he was THE Underground’s bombmaker. The bombs that killed went off accidentally (killing his girlfriend and others) was being readied for TROOPS AT FORT DIX.
If anyone hasn’t done enough, it’s America destroying this guy and everything the scum stands for (btw, and a special thank you to Bill Clinton for pardoning fellow terrorist Susan Rosenberg on his final day in office).

Posted by: exDemocrat | September 9, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Did someone think this cartoon was going to HELP OBAMA
probabaly. I mean whose supporters are more likely to be reading comic books?

Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

GreginSeattle: We know all about Ayers background. We know what he did 40 years ago and what he’s done since. It’s a non-issue. We want to know what Obama and McCain stand on the issues. Where are they going to take this country. If your so concerned about Ayers have you looked into the Keating 5 and McCain’s connection? Have you vetted everyone in McCain’s background?

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

He spelled the word “installation” wrong. His cartoon is nothing but a rationalization of what he did; Mass murders and other criminals do the same thing. What a loser.

Posted by: Bill | September 9, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Will and Sanity Man
So if a radical pro-life activist called into an abortion clinic and gave warning that a bomb was going to go off for a political expression, would that suffice with those on the left? I don’t think so. Any moderate, centrist American knows that this man represents the fringe and he not mentally or socially stable. I hated the Vietnam War, but I am not going to blow things up, even with a warning. When you have kids, you’ll understand. However, if you do have kids now, and advocate this mentality, God help your children.

Posted by: Center | September 9, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

With him in the Weather Underground was Bernardine Dohrn, who was put on the F.B.I.’s 10 Most Wanted List. J. Edgar Hoover called her ”the most dangerous woman in America” and ”la Pasionara of the Lunatic Left.” Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn later married
I think Hoover was jealous because he wanted the title of “most dangerous woman in America”

Posted by: Daniel | September 9, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

markymark | Sep 9, 2008 12:23:33 PM
See, there you go looking into the details of the matter! The bumper stiker line works so much better for deceptive Repubs. Obama wrote that people like Ayers were stuck in a time warp and they were pretty much on the wrong track, wrong headed and ineffective. But to get to that opinion Obama would have had to associate with Ayers to find out how wrong Ayers was. Repubs just listen to Rush and get their ideas.

Posted by: Sanity Man | September 9, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Texas Outlaw: Iraq is a war bombing in the United States by a radical is not. If you don’t like the idea’s of the president and the government then march against it don’t set off bombs. Ayers should have been sentenced to life and I blame the courts for not doing it.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 9, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

“Uhh… Jake? Since when was Obama and Ayers associates of each other? ”
Uhh… David? You’re kidding, right?
There are clear connections between the two. Are they as close as Wright and Obama? Probably not, but they are there.

Posted by: Erik | September 9, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

The connection between Ayers and Rev. Wright, and the similarities between some of their statements, combined with their connection to Obama is downright frightening. Don’t forget, Obama launched his political career from Ayers’ house – they are buddies and Obama has never said a word against Ayers.

Posted by: Lavender | September 9, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Linda N Carolina,
Yes, I have. McCain got a light slap on the wrist for the Keating 5 issue.
Obama’s Socialist/wacko associations and his most Liberal-in-the-Senate voting record (97% of the time with the Dems- That’s change???) that he is a Socialist. America is about freedom and the free market, NOT socialism!

Posted by: GregInSeattle | September 9, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

This Ayers – Weather Underground association to Barack Obama is ridiculous!! Obama was probably riding a tricycle when this ALL occurred over 40 years ago. Ayers was a member. He was tried and found innocent. Ayers father was rich and saw what US government was doing. Ayers total comments made were all taken out of context on what he presently supports or feels. Today he is repected College Professer. I have researched extensively. Look at US history. There were anti-Vitetnam War protestors all over nation then. US government way to deal with these protestors, was declaring many communists. As we all now see and know this was age of “McCarthism”. Everyone was communist if they opposed. Labeled such by FBI. President Clinton pardoned two Weather Underground before he left office. He was well aware of this part of US administration and history.
AYERS AND “OBAMA TERRORIST ACCUSATION” IS LEGALLY NOT TRUE!!! PERIOD!! HAVE FOUND IT TO BE A SCARE TACTIC BY HILARY CLINTON AND NOW JOHN MCCAIN AND SARH PALIN!! THIS IS SO OLD!!
WHAT AOBUT JOHN MCCAIN AND HIS ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASSES. HE IS ONE OF KEATING FIVE SENATORS INVESTOR SCANDAL WHO JUMPED SHIP TO TESTIFY AGAINST HIS FELLOW SENATORS SO NOT INDICTED AND GOT OFF – USED POOR JUDGEMENT. FIGHT WITH FELOW SENATORS WELL DOCUMNTED. WAS DOCUMENTED WOMANIZER WHO COMMITTD ADULTRY EVEN AFTER HE MARRIED CINDY MCCAIN. JOHN MCCAIN – FOUND HE LIES ALL THE TIME DURING THIS CAMPAIGN. HIS REPUBLICAN MOTTO – TELL LIE LONG ENOUGH SO PEOPLE BELIEVE!!!
WHAT REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING – US VOTERS ARE STUPID . WE WILL NOT INVESTIGATE TO GET TRUTH!!
PALIN – ASK HER ABOUT HER HUSBAND WHO BELONGED TO ALASKA INDENPENDENCE PARTY 1994-2002. “AGAINST USA – DAMN AMERICAN FLAG” – WANTS ALASKA TO BE INDEPENDENT OF USA. NOT A STATE – CONSIDERED A RADICAL GROUP – THIRD PARTY. ASK HER ABOUT HER RELIGION – AGAINST JEWS. HER RELIGION WANTS TO CONVERT GAYS/LESBIANS(I AM NEITHER-I AM HERTEOSEXUAL- MARRIED- CHILDREN-GRANDCHILDREN).
THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!
AYERS IS STUPID!! NOT EVEN WORTH NEWS REPORTING!
AMERICA IS A DISASTER!!! I DON’T NEED FOUR MORE YEARS OF REPUBLICANS. THIS IS SAD AS I AM REGISTERED REPUBLICAN.

Posted by: Sharonklim | September 9, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Why would I want to vote for McCain? Who’s in charge during nap time? Seriously, there’s too much risk that Palin will end up being President within the first year! Not that I don’t like Sarah, but I don’t think she’s President material. Being female, a hockey mom and a moose hunter doesn’t qualify a person for the most important position in our Nation. McCain is my grandfather’s age, and I’m Palin’s age — there’s a HUGE learning curve there, folks. Grandpa doesn’t adapt to change well, and doesn’t learn things as quick as he used to. Doesn’t mean he’s not a great person, because he’s wonderful. McCain is a great hero too. But with the world the way it is today, with global economics (a lot more than a state or one country to consider), and relations around the world, we don’t need “old world” tactics and thoughts. I believe I’ll vote Obama-Biden.

Posted by: DoBetter | September 9, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Civil disobediance during the Viet Nam era was so wide spread in this nation that to focus on this one man gives the whole history of our nation an injustice. Ohio students gunned down, mothers of dead soldiers who became opposed to the war dragged into buses and held overnight in jails. Batons crashing on skulls, body bags lined up on tarmacs, B52s painted black into the night sky making craters in the landscape below unknown of living life or not. I appreciate Mr. McCain’s service during this time, but I also see Mr. Ayers views also – had this nation succumbed to the military industrial complex mentality, well – that black, marble wall along the banks on the mall containing the names of the dead would quite possible stretch to the Florida coastline. I am a very firm believer that opposition and in the case of civil disobedience and violent opposition during the Viet Nam era brought that war to an end – to an end over there, but never an end here at home . . . Iraq is an example.

Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | September 9, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

The reason we’re talking about it is because the Republicans want to keep trying to make it into something it is not. Unbelievable. The guy was terribly wrong in what he did, but back then people were protesting strongly, the war kept going on, and maybe he felt it was something to wake the government up. But, it certainly was a terrible thing to do, and a stupid thing to do. At least they made sure no one got hurt. Let’s stick with the issues.

Posted by: Mary Jo Gilmore | September 9, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Linda in Carolina,
Yes, many have looked into the Keating 5. Have you? If so, could you tell us what it was about? Probably the most interesting fact you’ll learn about it is that the other 4 senators were all democrats: Alan Cranston D-CA, Dennis DeConcini-AZ, John Glenn D-OH, Donald W.Riegle D-MI.

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

WHO CARES?

Posted by: Beka | September 9, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Wow, Obama is friends with terrorists. Disgusting.

Posted by: Jane | September 9, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Center | Sep 9, 2008 12:26:49 PM – No it is not OK at all. I was not for any violence during the 60s or now. But the thing is that being on a board or working with an ex-terrorist does not make one a terrorist. Again it convinced Obama that Ayers was wrong in the past and wrong now.
But again the bogus line about launching Obama’s campaign in Ayers living room is so easy to say. There are modern media bomb-throwers too. Once the damage is done rebuilding the truth of the matter takes a long time.

Posted by: Sanity Man | September 9, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

More and more Obama gets uncovered with his criminal and terrorist friends and he just dismisses it as though it means nothing. Obama should not get more than 25% of the vote because we know he will get 20% from the racists and 5% from the zealots. A sane person would not consider Obama for our President.

Posted by: Bill | September 9, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

linda n carolina: I am not interested in the issues. Whatever issues need to be changed the next president will change them. If the government wants to raise taxes what are you going to do about it? If the city raises real estate taxes what can you do about it? People are losing their homes and condo’s because many bought with no money down or not more than 10% down and are the cause of their own destruction. If you can’t put 30% to 40% down don’t buy. And the mortgage companies have their ownselves to blame for allowing people mortgage’s with no down payment.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 9, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

For the left, the only appropriate violence is that which is used against its own citizens and own government.

Posted by: Sanity Man | September 9, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

Obama, during the debate with Senator Clinton when asked about William Ayers, “He’s just a guy I know from the neighborhood”…I don’t think so…isn’t
that called lying?

Posted by: josephine | September 9, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

Paige – no one is saying that Obama had any connection with the bombing, the question is about Obama’s judgment. Obama befriended this man whose actions were highly publicized. He used Ayers and Wright to launch his political career. Obama launched his campaign from Ayers’ home – he has admitted a friend with him. And although Obama has denounced Ayers’ past crimes, he has not denounced any of Ayers’ views and he hasn’t thrown Ayers under the bus the way he did Rev. Wright. Combine that with the errily similar statements … such as the “US of KKK A” that both Ayers and Wright have made and you begin to form serious questions about Obama and his judgment. Why did he choose to associate with these men? The answer is simple, Obama thrived in the corrupt world of Chicago politics because he lacks the judgment to know right from wrong.

Posted by: Missy | September 9, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Now, just imaging John McCain had the same connection to a Right-wing wacko like a “former” abortion clinic bomber. It’d be 24/7 all over the MSM!! Just look how the MSM went so viciously after Palin’s family.

Posted by: GregInSeattle | September 9, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Sanity Man,
If Ayers or his cronies-or any right wing radical for that matter-would have happened to hurt one of my loved ones in a bombing, even if unintentional, there is no “rebuilding the truth,” as you say. They’ll have to pay. You are way out of the mainstream on this one.

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

MM: So the other 4 were Dems but one of them was McCain. Point was if quilt by association is being used to smear Obama then McCain can be tarred with the brush.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Look, those of you in the tank for Obama will justify or minimize every sleazy association he has. Those of us who do not trust Obama will be reminded by this cartoon of Obama’s radical associations. They served together on a board and gave speeches together. Obama knew that this guy is a terrorist so I guess it did not matter to him. The issue is that we still don’t know what’s in his mind or heart. I’ll take the guy I am not crazy about but DO know over the guy I am not crazy about and DON’T know.

Posted by: BabsNJ | September 9, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Josephine,
That’s true. But did you also know that President Bill Clinton pardoned Ayers?

Posted by: Center | September 9, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Your reply answered you point. Your attempt was to smear McCain by lumping him in with criminal senators not knowing they were all democrats. Dig further into the Keating 5. Yopu’ll find that McCain’s involvement so minimal and non-relevant, it is a joke.

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

(last post sent for linda in carolina)

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

Sharonklim – you need to check your facts. Ayers was found quilty and did time for the bombing. His guilt or innocence is not the question (especially since he flat out admits he bombed the Pentagon). The question is why does Obama have this tendency to befriend radicals like Ayers, Wright, Khalid, etc. He has so many shady associations that you have to begin to question his judgment.

Posted by: Just following along | September 9, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

The Wethermen bomb that exploded in Manhattan was intended to be placed at Fort Dix. It was surrounded by nails. Others were intended to Columbia University, specifically the library. These were not ideologists, they were a gang of trust fund brats that didn’t have the courage to tell mommy and daddy to go to hell, so they became revolutionaries.
Their idols were bank robbers like Joanne Chesimard. Their enemies were “the pigs” whose deaths by assasination in New York and San Francisco were considered good signs by the likes of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and its violent, criminal offshoot, The Weathermen.
Is Ayers so regretful that he visited the Vietnamese boat people and offered them some of his salary to make up for the family members killed or imprisoned by the Vietcong? Has he visited the graves of the millions of people murdered by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, one of the communist groups he explicitly supported?
Of course not. He never will. He’s scum

Posted by: O Really | September 9, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

If this were McCain or Palin wouldn’t Ayers, Rezko, Wright, Phleger, Auchi, Said, Daley (et al), Million Man March, Bittergate, Born Alive Protection vote, Michelles Americans are “sloths and complacient” and America is “downright mean” etc would be HUGE campaign ending issues, but for the Obama robots, all this stuff is just a “distraction”. Love the hypocrisy.

Posted by: BabsNJ | September 9, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

So by leftist logic, if McCain hung around with the Grand Wizard of the KKK, it would be okay? I don’t think so. If Ayers and Rev Wright are representative of Barry O’s firends, I’ll take McCain and Palin any day.

Posted by: Dandydon | September 9, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Are you going to trash Gov. Sanford, Republican governor of South Carolina, because he served on a board with Ayers too?
This is the most ridiculous red herring ever. “He had a cocktail at his house once” = “they are associated”
Slam his politics, slam his tax policy fine, but this is pure and utter crap.

Posted by: Tim Hughes | September 9, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

The Weather Underground never hurt anyone? How about in 1969 the bombing of NYC police headquaters? My father was on the job when this attack happened and one of his fellow officers was injured. Obama is a radical leftist. He is a nice marketing package for the left. But from his writings and associations we learn about the real man. What makes his so scary is that the American people do not see through his rheotric. Remember Hitler wrote “Mein Kempf” in prison in 29. He detailed everything he believed in. Obama through his associations and writings has done the same thing.
Please wake up America before its too late!!!

Posted by: Phil | September 9, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

Marianne…..You don’t care about the issues? Great…..why are you in this forum then? Just to smear Obama. I’m sure the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan will be pleased to hear that you could care less what happens to them. Maybe when another 4,000 are killed before McCain declares victory you might care. The thousands of workers who have lost their jobs and homes can count on your sympathy after all it’s their own fault.NOT

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

The most disturbing aspect of this is that Obama said that Ayers was just a guy who lived in his neighborhood – of course we know his relationship went far deeper and far closer than that – How can anyone trust what Obma has said – another thing that cracks me up are the libs wh talk about McCains’flip-flops – that is an issue I would think all Obama supporters would avoid – NO ONE has flip – flopped more than Obama in any race at any time – period.

Posted by: johnr | September 9, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Reverend Wright is back in the news. Last Saturday he said the following at a dinner: “Just imagine, as soon as Barack Obama becomes president, it will be the first time in American hitory that a black woman can sleep with the president in the White House legally.” This was Barack Obama’s pastor for 20 years. Whay has the media not reported this one? I guess they are too busy defaming Palin with blatant lies.

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Linda in Carolina,
Your reply does not hold. It is true that millions of Americans created their own current finanical mess by spending more than they make and by purchasing mortgages which they knew they could not afford. Add on top of that millions more who get themselves into credit card debt due to out of control spending. Now, the taxpayers have to pay for Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. What more do you want? How much more do the taxpayers of this country have to pick up for irresponsible people? 200 billion dollars a year on welfare alone. And I have another project for you: Look into Senators Chis Dodd, Charles Schumer, and Rep. Barney Frank’s involvement with the collapse of Fannie Mae. The CW is that the republicans caused all of this. Just wait until the truth comes out.

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

We are talking about this because Ayers was Obama’s protege. Now Obama is a candidate for President. Why in the inside of my head is there voice saying “ARE YOU KIDDING ME ABOUT HIS BEING A CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENT”? The flags have been waving all along, so why are we smiling and cheering?

Posted by: jeneheffer | September 9, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

RE: McCain “Collaborating” as a POW — all who made it back from N. Vietnam were alive because at one point they were broken. McCain refused liberation when the VC found out his dad was an Admiral, because McCain knew his ‘early’ release would be used by the enemy to demoralize those left behind. Many former POWs verify this fact. McCain endured another 3.5 years of imprisonment for that decision. He paid the price a thousand times over for NOT collaborating enough with the enemy and thinking ‘only’ of himself.
As for attending church where people speak in tongues — this is America, where freedom ‘of’ religion is just as important as freedom ‘from’ religion. She doesn’t speak tongues on camera, or in the governor’s mansion. Her religion is her business, just like religion is a private matter for Sen. Obama. We know Obama attended fiery sermons delivered by the controversial much criticized Rev. Wright (“…God damn America!”) — does that make Obama an America hater too?
Get real people! If you actually believe the blatant B.S. that most if not all of the blog sites post (including this one), then you are sheep being led to slaughter. Vote on the issues, not on your oh so easily injured emotions. But when all is said and done — just vote!

Posted by: Jake | September 9, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

MM: I was aware that 4 of the Keating 5 were Dems…it doesn’t change the fact McCain was involved. $112,000 campaign contribution from Keating, Cindy and her father $359,000 investment to a Keating shopping center.9 expense paid trips on Keatings private plane.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Bill Ayers is a WIRM (“what I REALLY meant”), just like Obama.

Posted by: Alex01 | September 9, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

His Quote from Septembner 11, 2001(Ironically), does not jive with his 4 panel nonsense that Jake Tapper quotes in this Story: ”I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.”. Clearly, when taken in Context, william Ayers believes the and his Domestic terrorist friends did not do enough physical damage to our Country, including killing 2 people while making one of their bombs. And this is One of Barack Obama’s Associates!!!!

Posted by: bill | September 9, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

linda n carolina – you probably also know then that McCain was cleared of wrong doing by investigators. McCain was also the first to offer testimony in the case.

Posted by: Just following along | September 9, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

McCain does have a connection to someone about as bad as Ayers, and the media says nothing about it. He’s G. Gordon Liddy, and McCain’s been on his show plenty of times and is very friendly with him. Liddy is the guy who said to take shots at the heads of federal agents if you want to kill them, never mind his Watergate connection. Why isn’t McCain asked to repudiate Liddy?

Posted by: Steve | September 9, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

MM: How do you know people are in trouble because they spent too much,living over their means. Go the the drug store and look at the senior citizens buying 1 or 2 pills to last till their checks come in. Go to the emergncy room and see who is there. People who need to be in a doctors office but have no medical insurance.But hey it’s all their fault because they didn’t plan better. NICE

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

I find it very intersting that Ayers is using this analogy. It is a direct reflection of what is going on in Iraq, and don’t any of you be fooled. He is saying without saying, that we ALL need to do more to get our hapless and one track minded government to end this illegal, and immoral war we created.
He isn’t bashing anyone except himself and us as an American people for being lazy and afraid to stand up against the leadership of the country, no matter how wrong we know it is.
I fear that many who don’t know factual history, either from not “being there” or from not doing their homework will try to scoop Bill Ayers into the “terrorist” slot. He and the “weather undergound” were actually
civil disobedients, and even tho’ jail time could have been appropriate during the time, it most certainly doesn’t put him in the same arena as some of the Bushs and Cheneys closest friends…. the Bin Ladens. LET US NOT FORGET THAT WITHIN A FEW SHORT HOURS AFTER THE ATTACKS OF 9/11, GEROGE BUSH MADE CERTAIN THAT THE FAMILY OF THE BIN LADENS (COUSINS TO OSAMA) WERE ON THERE OWN PRIVATE JET AND ON THEIR WAY OUT OF THE COUNTRY WITH NO QUESTONS ASKED. It is on FAA record, and public record.
Bush has such deep oil ties personally that is HIGHLY hypocritical to tie a casual acquaintance with someone who has fallen into the dust closet of American culture from 40 yers ago, to a continuing relationship that is in direct conflict with the interests of
the majority of Americans.

Posted by: pamela | September 9, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Mr Tapper
I just read about Obama’s upcoming speech on education. You included a McCain response at the end. Fair.
I don’t see that you bothered to contact the Obama campaign to respond to your false claim that Ayers, who is a passing acquaintance in a small town, is an Obama.
Doubly unfair and a lie.
What ever happened to press impartiality and truthfulness?
I met Ayers’ father (Chairman of the Board of Commonwealth Edison) and mother
at charity events.
They were community leaders,gracious people and very generous. Mock. Mock. Mock.
Admitedly, I have never even seen Wiliam Ayers.
Am I still a terrorist in passing?

Posted by: susan | September 9, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Why is Ayers injecting himself into the campaign??
Because Obama thinks he’s the best thing since sliced bread.
Dems for McCain

Posted by: joseyj | September 9, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

A lot of misinformation in the replies here; let’s set the record straight –
Ayers NEVER served any time; he was let go on a technicality of evidence not being properly gathered. (One of the perks of having a very wealthy family who knows how to work the legal system.)
So obviously Bill Clinton never pardoned Ayers.
Clinton did pardon two WU members who had served a considerable amount of time and were repentent about their acts.
Ayers was never convicted – still says he didn’t do enough – and he and Obama passed out money together through the Annenberg Challenge and the Woods Fund.
Why isn’t the media delving into how much money was given out and where it went, so we can see what philosophies Obama and Ayers have in common?

Posted by: marylou | September 9, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Flush it out now. I doubt if this story will go away before the election though.

Posted by: Christie | September 9, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

McCarthism is alive and well in the American political process. A nation that no longer respects truth and honesty.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | September 9, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

That guy did more to continue the war in Vietnam and get Republicans elected than anyone in the ‘peace movement’.
He brought us Nixon with their stupid chaos tricks at the Chicago convention, which also brought us Rummy AND Cheney.
They destroyed the thought that peaceful protests would work. When it had just been proven to be the MOST effectvie tool against a country with a large military with both MLK and Ghandi.
The people that came together for civil rights and the parents who sent their children to war didn’t want to be associated with people who would praise Manson and declare ‘kill rich people’ or ‘kill your parents’ and then set about bombing the govt.
Ayers still talks the same way he always has. Both Ayers and Dohrn lie about their most vile statements saying they don’t remember them or it was a joke. Cowards!
They ran on tv all the time! Remember this was a time where there were only THREE news channels to get news from. Which occured on the local level and the national level. Do you really think this arrogant man and his wife missed one moment of themselves on tv.
He has stated that he would bomb again. So this bs that “we” didn’t do enough is the collective we as a society. Completely ignores his other statements and the fact that their lame Weatherman group is what blew the damn peace movement apart!
When people blame Altamont as the death of the 60s. They ignore the intentional chaos they created and the hatred they spewed at every opportunity.
Who in their right mind thinks they can out bomb the US military!? It isn’t even based in reality.
All that lame jerk did was give govt buildings a needed remodeling. They were all old even then.
They increased their budget for security and remodeling during a time of war. When govt budgets are generally cut.
And they never had to justify those increases in the next budget because Ayers and Dohrn were still blowing up buildings.
The Holy Grail for all govt agencies an unlimited checkbook and justification for all of their actions.
Geez….did he start getting requests from the govt on which buildings to bomb!?
This guy is a legend in his own mind! Who helped to bring us Rummy and Cheney. Geez…..Bush 41 was even tied to Nixon.
To Ayers…Look in the mirror you tool! You helped to bring us the clowns who got us into this mess today! Which make Obama suspect to say the least since you two have such a long history together despite those debate lies of his.
While you say down with capitalism….you reveal your hypocrisy with next breath stating ‘buy my book’.
When you attack the govt, you surely want people to forget your wages and stock options are supported by that same govt. More hypocrisy with your legacy govt job and connections to nuclear power or law firms. Oh and why did Obama help your Exelon leak nuclear poison to the public but we aren’t allowed to know despite subsidizing it?
More hypocrisy from you! You aren’t out for the people in this country or any country. You are out for yourselves.

Posted by: Karma | September 9, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Just following…..I’m being just like a republican, ignore all facts and smear by inuendo. Keating=bad guy….McCain was associated/knew Keating therefore he’s bad too. Is’nt that how it works?

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Let me get this straight:
a) Obama is a revolutionary
b) the corporate media supports him;
so…
c) Disney (ABC) is really an anti-capitalistic company gunning for communist revolution.
Right? I mean, if someone came up to you on the street and said that you would laugh at them.
But most of the posts on this site suggest this by inference.
There’s no point in discussing politics with someone who thinks that the corporate media is plotting Marxist revolution.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 9, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

I´m scared that the president of my country has terrorist friends like Ayers. God protect me and all my family if Obama wins.

Posted by: Stephanie | September 9, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

It’s important to note that Obama’s campaigm is actively seeking to quash this issue as they know it will hurt his chances in November. They have tried, but failed to stop the ads TV stations are running that are informing American Voters about Obama’s Association with this unapologetic Terrorist. Why would you want someone who hangs with a Terrorist as a President? My Family is not Voting for Him!

Posted by: Pet | September 9, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

To hear some of you on this blog, you just MIGHT get the impression that dissent is “unAmerican!” Fancy THAT. Geez, I thought that’s what we were FIGHTING FOR. The right to speak our minds.
I was a young adult during the Viet Nam war, and am ashamed to say, I went along with my government. “My country, rght or wrong,” I used to say. Not any longer.
At age 66 I can see how our government often sends our young men off to war with no real mission…
It’s criminal to use them for anything except in defense of this country!

Posted by: sedonakaren | September 9, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Pamela: I forgot all about that happening after 9/11. Thank you for reminding us. Another thing Bush can be proud of.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

The issue is straightforward-when Ayers walks into as room,anyone with character ,dignity and judgment should walk out -Obama didn’t.

Posted by: mm Maly | September 9, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Got to go…enjoyed it. Keep hitting em hard Dems.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 9, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

“There’s no point in discussing politics with someone who thinks that the corporate media is plotting Marxist revolution”
The corporate media doesn’t look past the dollar signs.

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Yes, Obama did hang with Terrorists. And I’m waiting to see that Video of Michelle were she is Ranting against America and the people who Live here! The Obama’s are not nice people!!

Posted by: Janice | September 9, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

The ACTUAL Ayers quote he’s alluding to: “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Yeah, silly us for thinking he was talking about bombs.

Posted by: ynot4tony2 | September 9, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Susan,
Please have the decency to educate yourself of the facts – Ayers was not just some passing acquaintance of Obama’s. As I said before – they nurtured a decades long personal and professional relationship with each other – they sat on at least 2 boards together – Obama launched his political career in Ayers home. The two have shared a stage numerous times. The disgusting truth is Susan – Obama would proudly stand on a stage with a man who would proudly stand on the American flag. Look it up.

Posted by: oldspice | September 9, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Obama spent twenty years attending the church of a minister who hates America and has ties to a guy (Ayers) who has killed Americans. This says a lot about Obama, who’s wife is only now proud to be an American.

Posted by: Ron | September 9, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

As a new American, I do not want Terrorist friendly President, I want man who will keep me safe. Obama not that man as he has terrorist friends. Obama a Bad man.

Posted by: farouk | September 9, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Let the media investigate the connections between Ayers and Obama. We´ll get surprised about what it comes out. Do you want a president friend of Ayers and Rev. Wright in the White House? my answer is not. I love this country too much to wish America such an awful destiny.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 9, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

OMG – let’s see, the republicans are up to their eyeballs in current corruption – let’s remember Tom Delay and Jack Abramoff for starters – and they want to talk about somebody who protested the VIETNAM war?
Tom Delay was present at the republican convention – does that mean they are promoting his behaviors – I think they are…

Posted by: Disgusted | September 9, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Susan said: “I don’t see that you bothered to contact the Obama campaign to respond to your false claim that Ayers, who is a passing acquaintance in a small town, is an Obama.”
Ayers is an Obama? Who said that? Seems you’re foolish enough to believe anything, including the notion that Ayers “is a passing acquaintance in a small town”.
Uh, no. Uh-uh-uh-bama launched his political career from Ayer’s house. He’s served on a board with Doh-bama for a couple years (and the corrupt Chicago Daley-machine tried to bury all public records of this group).
Try reading something besides Obama’s website, Susan. You make Democrats look like fools!

Posted by: ynot4tony2 | September 9, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

“Let the media investigate the connections between Ayers and Obama.”
Hasn’t happened so far. Fox is the only news organization that has brought this to light.

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

“The corporate media doesn’t look past the dollar signs.”
Right. Why would they support an anti-capitalistic, revolutionary candidate ?

Posted by: Maurizio | September 9, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

This has ZERO to do with Obama. Obama was an 8 year old child, during the Vietnam war.

Posted by: Paul | September 9, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

This guy Ayers changes nothing. Whether he went to jail or not, his opinion is inconsequential to real life. How about reporting on real politics? Finding out about the Libertarians or Constitution or Green Party candidates. No? Too much in the pocket of the two “main” parties. I think that the framers would be disappointed. Not to mention the fact that we are choosing the Vice President in a manner that is totally against the Constitution.

Posted by: Note to ABC | September 9, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Now the terrorist friend of Obama wants to revise history… The quote in the New York Times, published on Sept. 11, 2001, was: ”I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.”

Posted by: ZerO Bama | September 9, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Are we talking about the same G Gordon Liddy who had the necklace of dried ears that he used to wear and carry around with him?
Is’nt that guy one of the lead “henchmen” (if you will) from Watergate??
Please tell me that JM (who I at lest respected for his military knowledge ) didn’t have a relatonshiop with him.
That would pretty much destroy the lst bit of respect I had for him.
Also: I thought the “cheating thing” came before Cindy, but once he hit the money train all that came to a grinding halt. Is this speculation? Or do we have a “stained dress”?
P.S.
Franklin D. Roosevelt was publicly and commonly known to be carrying on an affair with the White House Secretary,
so cheating in the “Big O” is nothing new.
Maybe not okay,….. but not new.

Posted by: pamela | September 9, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Seems that the first couple of Vice Presidents were the runners up of the Presidential race. And wouldn’t that chnage life? It would probably open up to more parties. But even if it didn’t, could you imagine the Republicans having to run two candidates? How would that work. Or, they concede to run only one a piece, meaning that they have to work with someone from another party. Maybe then things would get done? Who knows since the media won’t address real issues like that. Focusing instead on someone who impacted very few. And I am not disminishing the lives of the people who this freak Ayers ruined.

Posted by: Note to ABC | September 9, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

This is a great topic. Always entertaining to see the rationalizations people throw out there when trying to defend the indefensible.

Posted by: Woody | September 9, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Ayers the unrepentant terrorist has been a close associate of Barack Obama, and Obama has never explained why he associate with someone like that. Obama needs to answer for this.

Posted by: SteveIL | September 9, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Hard to believe Ayers would choose this time and method to defend his vile acts.
Oz will be buying another bus to roll Ayers under all by himself.

Posted by: few | September 9, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Another quote from the New York Times article in which Obama’s terrorist friend, Bill Ayers, is asked about his domestic bombing campaign:
- So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ”I don’t want to discount the possibility,” he said.

Posted by: ZerO Bama | September 9, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

This has EVERYTHNG to do with Obama or else they would not be spending Campaign resources trying to stop Television Ads that educate Americans about the Obama-Ayers relationship on 2 Boards and Ayers unrepentance regarding the bombings and apparently the 2 people who died during the making of one of those Bombs!!!!! Facts!!!

Posted by: larry | September 9, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Voters will have to decide if they want a lunatic potus who think that the US can stamp out evil all over the world or a sensible president who has the intelligence and will not to be swayed by every person that they associate with.

Posted by: Al213 | September 9, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Obama was on more than one board with Ayers and if his supporters don’t want to face the truth they are only hurting them selves…Jake report on The Annenberg Challenge….please….get the truth out there Jake…

Posted by: 30yrdem-not any more | September 9, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Part of the financial mess today is because congress, in their infinite PC wisdom told banks that they had to make xx% of their loans to minorities. Hey, banks, if you loan $XXX to whites and upper income folks then a percentage of your loan portfolio must also include certain other groups. Their backs were against a wall. Never mind that in some places, those very minorities were low or no income people in poverty for whatever reason and unable to pay said loans back, no matter how much they wanted to.
Yes, part of the blame is the government themselves – congress, and isn’t congress NOW controlled by a certain party now, sitting at what approval rating and having accomplished what? Could they not have reversed this before it happened??
Now they must bail out Americans who can’t afford their mortgage – the very mortgages that (in SOME cases) were thrust into their hands because of a LAW passed by congress.
Presidents don’t make laws, congress does. Presidents can’t change the constitution – congress does, but ONLY with the APPROVAL of the states.
(lest we forget our high-school government classes)

Posted by: BillD | September 9, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

As a person who is fed up with how our government is ran by lobbyist and not by “We the People” I would like to see a revolution. Not a violent revolution like Ayers but a revolution of people “We the People” truly voicing our dis-satisfaction with our government without being called anti-american. Most Black people in this country can recall a number of times when we weren’t proud to be American or Black. By the way, I am black.

Posted by: TyMitch | September 9, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Barack Obama Served on 2 boards with this unrepentent Terrorist. That is inexcesable for someone running for President. It’s worse than Joe Biden’s repeated plagiarism in Collega and again during his ’88 Presidential Campaign which he had to eventually withdraw from because of it.

Posted by: Candy | September 9, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

When one party always has to defend their patriotism it is difficult for them to win national elections. It’s how the PRI secured power in Mexico for so long. Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Obama have all been trashed as America-haters. McCain, Bush x2, Dole- never had to defend their patriotism for a second. A product of the Marxist-yet-simultaneously-capitalistic media.
Personally, I only question the patriotism of secessionists like Sarah Palin. There’s a whole history behind the secession thing that makes it difficult for me to believe Sarah Palin loves this country.
I’m sure Tapper will put her on the hot seat…. sometime.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 9, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

That man help to destroy the thought that continued peaceful protest works as in the case with civil rights.
By making it vile to protest on the side of domestic terrorists which help the Vietnam war continue.
Do you see on-going, long term protests about the war in Iraq? Nope…thank Ayers.

Posted by: Karma | September 9, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

McCain associated with Bush a lot, voted with him 90% of the time. does that mean Mccain=Bush? I guess obama got it right.
Obama associated with Ayers. How many deaths did obama cause, zero. Can’t say that about those that squander American lives on an unnecessary war.

Posted by: Bob21 | September 9, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

I get it,….Ayers is coming out now so Obama can denounce him just like Rev.Wright did when he went in front of the press….slick…

Posted by: 30yrdem-not any more | September 9, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Why doesnt Barack just come clean and tell us the truth about this relationship he had with this terrorist?

Posted by: Cuanesha | September 9, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Is any of Obama’s associates crediable???
Obama had fundraisers at Ayers home in Chicago, goes to show Obama will hang with anyone to promote his own political career. Pathetic.

Posted by: NielPA | September 9, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

I´d like to know why these tolerant democrats call stupid all the people who don´t support their American Idol Obama. Do you know the meaning of democracy? it means that I can vote whoever I want, not whoever YOU want. I´m sorry I´m not intelligent enough to be fascinated by Obama.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 9, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Palin bills state for nights at home and kids’ travel.
Sarah Palin billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a “per diem” allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Obama is like the PIPER. Instaed of a flute he blows his voice like a preacher. The mice are following him because of his preachings. The mice are following blindly without asking questions and he depends on his preachings to keep you all transfixed on his voice instead of you asking him real questions.

Posted by: Jim Rod | September 9, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

And why did he want to give Farakahn an Award What was that all about? Was that a Rev. Wright thing? Or was William Ayers, the Terrorist, involved inthat also.

Posted by: joe | September 9, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

“”The corporate media doesn’t look past the dollar signs.”
Right. Why would they support an anti-capitalistic, revolutionary candidate ?”
They’d sell out, you, me and their souls for a buck.

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Why doesn’t mccain come clean and say how many more wars he wants to sink us in?

Posted by: Al213 | September 9, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

“She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982″
Spin.
She spoke at their convention and told them “to keep up the good work.”
More praise then you’ll ever hear about Obama giving Ayers.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 9, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

He’s “…an English professor…” who spelled the word “installations” in the comic as “instillations.” This guy is a very silly person and should not be taken seriously, like Obama.

Posted by: Jeff Drummond | September 9, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

“Sarah Palin billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a “per diem” allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business. ”
She also got rid of the plane, the driver and the chef.

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Will – she also put the state budget and spending reports online for all the taxpayers to see.

Posted by: Just following along | September 9, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

All Obamma needs to do is hold a news conference with his beloved media and tell the truth about his friedship with Ayers and any other shady charactor from his past.

Posted by: Jackn | September 9, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Janice,
You’re talking about the tape in which Michelle Obama goes crazy on the pulpit of Wright’s church. She assails whites, Asians and Hispanics. It’s out there. So too is her thesis. These people are not what they seem.

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

“Sarah Palin billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home ”
nope, she bill a per diem for meal.
not one cent for accomidations
nice try WaPo ,,nice lie

Posted by: trettion | September 9, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

So, I guess Obama has the Domestic Terrorist vote all sewn up. Well, that’s one demographic I guess.

Posted by: Kara | September 9, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Daniel Carver endorses McCain

Posted by: EL | September 9, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Ayers must be sick of Obama’s hypocrisy to do this stuff

Posted by: trettion | September 9, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Check the WHOLE story on this, too:
“Sarah Palin billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a “per diem” allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business. ”
Seems it was much less than the prior gov, and it’s allowed and common up there. She really violated no law, and followed the practices of other governors, although SHE flew coach, encouraged other to do the same, and spent far less. She didn’t claim what she could of and routinely did NOT claim meals on outings where she had every right to.
Read the whole story, not just what the mainstream press wants you to read, or what the bloggers post.
There’s almost always more to a story…
Do you always file income tax and sales tax on garage sale items? Do you cheat on your resume, fluffing it a bit? Do you claim lunches, etc. for work travel?

Posted by: BillD | September 9, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

linda in carolina,
Your posts have been among the most divisive and one-sided of all. You’re to talk? Show me a qualified democrat: One who is kind to small business owners, one who does not demonzie producers or corporations and one who won’t raise taxes, and I’ll be the first to vote for him ro her.

Posted by: mm | September 9, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

It’s like Obama has been in training for 20 years with Wright (hates white America) and Ayers (hates and bombed America and is unrepentant) as prime examples of who Obama has associated with. And that group he associated himself with as a “community organizer” has it’s share of fraudulent voter registration and crime also.

Posted by: Bill | September 9, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

To y.sister,
Ayers was the person who got Obama started on his political career. Given the fact that Ayers hates the American system so deeply, one has to wonder what it was about Obama that made someone like Ayers not only want to support him, but to launch his political career. Obviously, there is something that he likes, something that he expects to get out of this relationship.
In addition, it was Ayers wife, Bernadine Dohrn, who issued the Weatherman’s Declaration of War against the United States. The reasons for concern about Obama’s relationship with the Ayers’ family increase.
As citizens of this country, we all have the right to learn what this is all about. Ayers is indeed a very controversial person, and Democrats as well as Republicans not only have the right to be concerned, but the obligation to ensure that Obama hasn’t “sold his soul to the Devil” (oops, I’m not mixing Church and State now, am I?) before he actually gets to the White House.
Given the fact that Obama has “misrepresneted” his relationships (i.e., he lied) with Wright, Rezko, and even Ayers, we have reason to be afraid.
And true, Clinton did not pardon Ayers (because Ayers was never convicted), but he DID pardon two other Weather Underground members. I guess Bill just likes terrorists (at least, anti-American terrorists), like the 16 FALN members he pardoned as well.
THAT’s why we are talking about this.

Posted by: Nick in Virginia | September 9, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

She also got rid of the plane, the driver and the chef.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No she didn’t. She lost money on the plane that she failed to sale on EBay (three times). And she re-assigned her chef to a “non-responsibility” position on her own personal staff…and paid her more salary.
You fact-twisting right-wingers picked the last president and failed. It won’t happen again.

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Here come the water-muddiers on the WaPo story.
Charging yourself travel expenses when you stay at home is a scam, Hello!
The article is fair. It presents all the evidence and contrasts her use of public funds with previous and other governors. Stop whining.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 9, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Rev. Wright and his God damn America. Michelle Obama saying she´s never been proud of her country. Ayers justifying bombing. If you defend these people you must be completely crazy. Obama´s relations are his worst enemies.

Posted by: Betsy | September 9, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

What did this topic have to do with obama and why did bill clinton send ayers free from jail

Posted by: Robin | September 9, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Billd,
So, your defense of Palin’s theft from Alasks is that she did the same thing other governors had done, but just less of it? I’m just asking.

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Reading the responses are great. The only way the Obama supporters can respond is to change the subject. Jake hit it out of the park on this one and we the people now know more about Obama than we did before. Good job, Tapper.

Posted by: Bill | September 9, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

I still dont understand what this has to do with Obama he was never mentioned once

Posted by: Robin | September 9, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

In the first six months of 2008, 205 American soldiers and over 6,000 Iraqi civilians were reported killed in Iraq. Only, you wouldn’t know that from watching the three major newscasts which devoted a total of only 181 weekday minutes to covering the Iraq War.
We’re not doing enough to end this war!

Posted by: hang | September 9, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Logicman logic is the last thing you should claim you have.

Posted by: Robin | September 9, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

If Bill ayers and his wife are terrorist why did the clintons let them free?

Posted by: Robin | September 9, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

For political gain, Obama deliberately sought out and associated with this unrepentent terrorist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Other than in the Land of Make Believe, how does one gain politically by associating with a terrorist?
Does that even make sense to republicans? Nevermind. Forget I asked.

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

I really hope people are smart enough to vote the issues and not some tenuous relationship with an old left-wing radical (both served on the same foundation board)
But, I do not not have much hope that some people can assess facts and evidence and not distrort, smear and trot out the tired old attacks. Whats the saying about getting the government we deserve?

Posted by: miles1967 | September 9, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

uhhh…sorry defeat-o-crats…it’s over. you will not tax me to death….you will not take my money and waste it on lazy lowlives in the projects…you will not be allowed to run and hide in fear every time another country threatens us…nancy pelosi can’t vacation the truth away…mccain will be the next preisdent…and there has NEVER been anything you could do about it.

Posted by: LordHarryLatts | September 9, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

No way, no how, NO OBAMA. This just makes me sick. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!

Posted by: jazz | September 9, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

It’s a funny thing, every time the heat goes on one of Obama’s good buddies, then he was just a passing acquaintance. Just like he went to Wright’s church for twenty years but was never there when Wright was giving his favorite sermons. Just like buying a strip of land from Rezko, but Rezko testified that he and Obama were in almost constant daily contact for something like seventeen years while both of them were involved in Illinois politics.
As far as someone “protesting a war”, there is a big difference between having a “sit in” and setting off bombs.
And why can’t we read Michelle’s thesis until AFTER the election?

Posted by: Melanie | September 9, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Does it really matter at this point. America has seen Obama for what he truly is… an opportunist.
Obama has made friends with whomever would promote his carrier. He did nothing to promote change while in the senate. Now he uses other peoples words to gain the publics interest.
If you want real change look toward Palin/McCain.

Posted by: mikeWill | September 9, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

I find it very intersting that Ayers is using this analogy. It is a direct reflection of what is going on in Iraq, and don’t any of you be fooled. He is saying without saying, that we ALL need to do more to get our hapless and one track minded government to end this illegal, and immoral war we created.
Posted by: pamela | Sep 9, 2008 1:04:10 PM
Pamela, are you saying that Ayres is encouraging violent resistance against the current administration? And perhaps the McCain administration?

Posted by: RealisticLib | September 9, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Oh thank you for the clarification, Mr. Ayers. I just knew all along that you had a good heart, and a good reason for your attempts at blowing-up our Capitol. AND, I didn’t know that you called in the hits ahead of time – That WAS considerate of you. After reading this what-ever-it-is that Mr. Tapper has presented to us, I certainly feel a lot better now about supporting your friend and mine, Barak Obama, for President.
It’s always nice to hear from a friend of the Public, even if you are a cartoon. Say HI to Bernadine for us.

Posted by: Citizen_Alerted | September 9, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Have at it that Obama worked with the guy and yet somehow he is responsible for someone else’s actions when Obama was something like eight years old. Meanwhile, all I hear from the neo-con right is, “Waaaaa, don’t pick on Palin” Thats the trouble with you neo-cons you know how to dish it out but you cannot take it.

Posted by: Bill Dull | September 9, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

“If Ayers and Rev Wright are representative of Barry O’s firends” – You left out Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick. I’m no conspiracy theorist. Just looking at the company Mr. Obama keeps tells a scary story.

Posted by: Concerned_Citizenry | September 9, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Robin,
Please have the decency to educate yourself on the facts. Clinton never pardoned Ayers and his wife. Clinton pardoned two other members of the group, Linda Evans and Susan Rosenberg, two women who served 17 years in prison on weapons and other charges. Ayers never paid for his crimes and to this day is proud of what he did. That anyone apologizes for it or thinks that it was OK for Obama to have a relationship with this man is insane.

Posted by: oldspice | September 9, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

y.sister wrote: “Don’t forget that Obama was a very young person (around 4-8 yrs. old) when Ayer was involved. So tell me, why are we talking about this anyway???”
Answer: Because he’s an associate (some say friend) of Obama’s, that’s why. A friend who won’t apologize or admit he was wrong in committing terrorist acts, yet Obama still chose to associate with him.
The issue much more relevent than Sarah Palin’s husband’s DUI from 1986, which the liberal press has also reported on. Yet they won’t investigate Obama’s admitted drug use from the same time period. They just take him at his word that he never dealt drugs. That Sarah Palin, oh, she needs to be INVESTIGATED.
Yes, Bill… please keep talking. :D

Posted by: Brian W. | September 9, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

“Guilty as sin, free as a bird — what a country, America.”
William Ayers

Posted by: Yavo Lem | September 9, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Not only has Obama had associations with terrorists and criminals, his racist Rev, Jerimiah Wright, his mentor, whom he loves as an Uncle, has now been found to have an affair with Elizabeth Payne, a white 37 yr old woman. Her husband divorced her over the affair and Payne has released e-mails from Wright telling her he was divorcing his wife of 20 yrs Ramah, whom he met when he was supposed to be giving her and her first husband marriage counseling.
This is the type of people that Obama associates with, what does that say about his judgement?
Typically, a politician would not chose to associate with people who have a questionable past or who are not on par with their beliefs.

Posted by: S Adams | September 9, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

You ask, “Why are we talking about this??” Here’s why:
In 2001, Bill Ayers reaffirmed that he was glad to have bombed the Pentagon and only wished that he had done more. Obama was 40 then.
When Ayers threw his first fundraiser for Obama, Obama was 34 years old.
Obama served for years with Ayers at the Woods Fund and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and was planning a run for federal office when his association with Ayers was clearly solid.
Ayer’s terrorist accomplice and wife, Bernardine Dohrn, worked as a paralegal with the law firm Sidley Austin where Michelle Obama was an attorney.
There’s nothing false, despicable and outrageous about these facts. They have been known by many for some time. Now people outside of Chicago are becoming familiar with Senator Obama, and those who have supported him.

Posted by: Citizen_Alerted | September 9, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

One, who cares about Bill Ayers?
Two, when did the American press suddenly become pacifist? The American press, and American politicians in general, not to mention the US government, have consistently cheered on violent resistance groups when they fit with out “national interests.” UNITA, anybody? Anti-Regime Iranian groups that have been listed by the UN and Interpol as terrorist organizations yet received both covert CIA aid and overt State Dept. support?
Sometimes violent resistance is the answer – Ayers’ mistake is not that he didn’t issue a blanket denunciation of violent resistance to tyranny, but that he profoundly misjudged the tactical issues. The US was a democracy. There were other avenues that did not necessitate armed action. His and the WO’s bombings were counter-productive.
Some times violent resistance is justified – just ask St. Augustine.
And when, Jake, will you do an article on Palin’s ties to the AIP, which has similarly condoned violent resistance to US “imperialism”?
I won’t hold my breath.

Posted by: dadanarchist | September 9, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

If he was so anti-war, why wasn’t he bombing “symbolic targets” in North Vietnam or Viet Cong strongholds? Why wasn’t he chaining himself to the docks in Hanoi or one of the Soviet ports to block Soviet arms shipments? Why didn’t he at least target the Soviet embassy in DC, or the North Vietnamese embassy elsewhere?
Why did all the protesters protest the UNITED STATES, instead of the Communists?
The US wasn’t trying to conquer North Vietnam. It was just trying to defend South Vietnam from Communist aggressors.
All the Communists had to do was stop trying to conquer South Vietnam, leave the people there alone, and ta-da! War over. It was they who insisted on prolonging the war. We were the ones who kept initiating peace talks, and when we finally made a peace agreement (which won the Nobel Prize for both sides) the Communists promptly broke it, twice, with massive cross border conventional land invasions. The first the South defeated with out help (but not our ground troops, which were gone by then), but the second happened after WNixon’s resignation and the extreme-Left Watergate babies came to power. They insisted on breaking our word to our ally and cutting off funds, arms, and air support to our friends. And so the 1975 invasion, which was bigger than Hitler’s attack on Poland, succeeded.
The “anti war” crowd like Ayers wasn’t really anti war. They didn’t mind the violence perpetrated by the Communists. What they minded was that America and its allies tried to resist it.
Oh but we must NEVER question their patriotism, right? True blue all American lovers of their countries, for sure.

Posted by: Carney | September 9, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Please tell me the FBI is watching this guy. Once a terrorist…

Posted by: SkinsFan | September 9, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Every story you Obama supporters have cited here are lies ….all disputed and proven false! Keep up the good work because for every lie you tell, a truth will be told to the American public…too bad you cannot say the same thing about your Obama! Every time a story comes out about him are truths..and he cannot dispute them! He only “CHANGES” his tune!! Remember what the GREAT Martin Luther King said and live it..”THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mfmros | September 9, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

I think the stretch that is being used her between Ayers and Hitler, and Mcveigh, are not only uot of bounds, but out of desperation.
One doesn’t have a thing to do wit the other on all counts.
HItler wanted to eliminate an entire race and society of people.
Mcveigh wanted to attack a system of govenrment personally and intentionally harm and kill, and had no political message other than hatred.
Ayers , once again…. though they (not he, they,) did bomb out buildings , they intentionally emptied them out before hand. The message here was politically motivated and directed not at families and persons, but at a system of Dictatorship and military rule that hundreds of thousands from every age race and creed were also protesting against.
If the association of Barack O’bama is too close too comfort for your ideals, than you should have a really hard time sleeping knowing how close the Bushes are to the Bin Laden family.
and still, is this the SAME G. Gordon Liddy (prev. mentioned) who has eh ear necklace???

Posted by: pamela | September 9, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Some times violent resistance is justified – just ask St. Augustine.
Posted by: dadanarchist
==========================================
Oh, OK, I’d like to ask him about it. Could you kindly post his E-mail address?

Posted by: Yavo Lem | September 9, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

The Vietnam war was illegal and morally WRONG!!!! I opposed that war and the current war also!!!

Posted by: E.S. | September 9, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Obama associate? All investigations have not established any serious connection. Everyone has unsavory acquaintances. McCain had Keating, Parsley and Hagee.
Was this guy every convicted of anything for his actions that extended from before Obama was born to when he was a toddler?

Posted by: J. Richter | September 9, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Ayers is not the “go to” person on the legality of the Vietnam War, he is just one of many “Haters” of the political system devoid of any objective reasoning (i.e.: Jane Fonda). His actions with the Weather Undergound should of landed him in jail for decades – but there was also lienient Judges back then that were forgiving to traitors and people that lacked National Pride, much like today.
Many companies believe that befriending Socialist or Communist political parties they are immune from the financial fallout when countries changed politically (i.e.: Cuba, Venesuela). This goes to show everyone CEO’s and Board Members that run huge corporations are not any smarter than the rest of us. The general population may feel the first affect of “Change”, but eventually it will felt by these corporations too.

Posted by: Mr. Natural | September 9, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

No one was hurt? right.

Posted by: Andrew | September 9, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Who are Obama’s friends? Bill Ayers, radical bomber. Rev. Wright, hysterical racist. Various Chicago political machine operatives.
A man is know by the company he keeps. We know enough about Obama. And we don’t like what we see.

Posted by: Scott | September 9, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Bill Ayers is a disgrace. Rich, white and never tried he has the nerve to try to convince America that he is some how not the guy who danced on the American flag. Right. Right.

Posted by: beebop | September 9, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Why debate the past? Bill Ayers, so what? Iraq War is no longer an issue. The issue is experience – Barack Hussein Obama DOES NOT have any experience. He cannot tell us what legislative accomplishments he had had in the just over two years in the Senate. He does not have the experience, the background, or the Executive experience to be President.

Posted by: Bob | September 9, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Vote for the same if that is want you truly believe becasue McSame is just an entention of Bush. This race is not just about white people it is about the all the American people and race have rasied it ugle head time after time.

Posted by: gl | September 9, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

The Issue is why did Obama become a memmber of 2 boards with a domestic Terrosit who engaged in such harmful acts against America. The Timing and Age of Barack when William Ayers bombed the Pentagon and had 2 of his collegues killed is immaterial. It goes to Obama’s reasoning as to WHY he would become a board member with an unrepentant Domestic Terrorist. It goes to Character, and Character counts!

Posted by: Frederick | September 9, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

I can not wait for this election to be over!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: david | September 9, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

William Ayers clumsily shifts from a broad context: “We didn’t do enough…we means everyone”, to a narrow personal view “I don’t think violent resistance is necessarily the answer.” Ayers seems to be the eternal child dressing his “apology” as a cartoon and trying to appear “Doonesbury-esque”. His excuses sound as drug-addled and vacuous today as they did when he was committing terrorism on a more innocent, forgiving nation. No conservative pundit could ever add to his unsavory life story. I hope he just fades away after his second fifteen minutes passes.

Posted by: Jeva18 | September 9, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

“The Issue is why did Obama become a memmber of 2 boards with a domestic Terrosit who engaged in such harmful acts against America.”
Interesting question – I eagerly await your posting email responses from all the other folks, including CEOs of prominent corporations, why they also served on the board with Ayers. I’m sure you will, in your due diligence, hold them to the same standard you are holding Obama.
Right?

Posted by: dadanarchist | September 9, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

It’s not just the crime, it is the cover up. If there was nothing wrong with Ayers, then WHY did Obama hide his relationship with him, and flat out LIE? “just someone in my neighborhood”. Why has he not talked about the Annenberg challenge? why did the bar release of those records?
The cover up is far more an admission of guilt than anything, and we have yet to find the truth. I wish the media, and Jake, would spend as much time in this important investigation instead of wasting time talking about silly things like Palin’s sale of the airplane.
Oh, and Ayers stomped on the American flag. Repulsive, but part of Obama’s clan.

Posted by: decentAmerican | September 9, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

To your post Wade | Sep 9, 2008 2:48:53 PM:
Excelsior!! My friend.

Posted by: Citizen_Alerted | September 9, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

“Get over yourselves, your messiah is done.”
Something about glass houses and whatnot…

Posted by: dadanarchist | September 9, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

If mcCain had just one of the questionable associates that Obama has, McCain would be toast. Someone please tell me why the MSM is letting Obama get away with his associations? Of course MSNBC just fired two anchors because they were so biased for Obama it had gotten pathetic. People are SLOWLY starting to wake up. I hope.

Posted by: billy bob | September 9, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Realistic: I think ayers is trying to find a way to get more Americans to stand up and go to their windows and say I’m mad as H,,, and I’m not going to take it anymore!
But, too many Americans are afraid .
bush has everything we are hardwired into being watched, and let us not forget the men in black who can and do jsut show up at your work, or bank, or doorstep, and start questioning your patrotism and find ways that you’ve broken the law, which you don’t even know exist. Before you or any one of us knows, we have a comfy seat in a North Dakota jail cell, under a Homeland Security / Big Brother law.
Ayers is trying to inspire Americans to have some back bone and not take the bull that has bee spoon shoved down our throats for the past 8 yrs.
True, he may not be the ideal, (mildly put) but he is a “child of the 60′s” if you will.
When most of the people on this site today were sitting on their mamas laps he ws out spray painting anti-govmnt. slogans and rall;ying up people to try to end an evil battle on foreign soil.
He is NOT an American heroe, (far from it) but he is NOT any G.Gordon Liddy.
And still need my answer….

Posted by: pamela | September 9, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

What a moron!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: beap | September 9, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

UUHHH…. Billy Bob, the anchors didn’t get fired. Get your facts straight.
oops, sorry , you’re GOP. Too late.
The anchors were replaced for election day coverage because they got into heated arguments with other commentators, and began expressing their own opinons, which is against co. policy. They are very much still gainfully employed.

Posted by: pamela | September 9, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

“If mcCain had just one of the questionable associates that Obama has, McCain would be toast.”
Charles Keating. Yeah, the media is *all* over that.
Ahmad Chalabi.
And he was also against the Minutemen Defense Corps, a domestic terrorists organization, before he was for them. Now he thinks they are worth “being engaged,” whatever that means.

Posted by: dadanarchist | September 9, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

This proves that Obama is nothing more than a puppet. A surrogate for the Leftoid Freakazoid leftovers from the 60s wacko-job movement.
Obama associated with Ayers. Then elected by Democrats.
Actually, this says a lot more about the Democrat voters….

Posted by: Politicus | September 9, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

I hope you all run background checks on everyone who ever serves on a committee or board with you. Just because she’s a professor now doesn’t mean that woman helping you run the bake sale wasn’t a terrorist in the sixties.
Really, he is now a professor at a well-respected university and they were on the board of a charity together. Many other perfectly normal people associate with him too, or should we condemn the entire staff of the University of Chicago as terrorists by association?

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Also I have one simple question, a question you should answer truthfully. Are you better off now than you were eight years ago? Are you better finacially? Do you agree with the gas sucking cars at four bucks a gallon? Are we better – and this is not just time moving forward, there could have been things done to prevent it.

Posted by: kapgis | September 9, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Ayers started, and Obama chaired the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, in the 1990s. Ayers is an unrepentant Domestic Terrorist that Obama is aware of and his Campaign is spending funds of to stop ads that are running to educate Americans of their friendship. This relationship shows a poor decision making skills by Obama by choosing to serve on a board created by a past Domestic Terrorist arrested for attacks on our country!

Posted by: Tara | September 9, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

William Ayers Seeks To Justify His Group’s Bombings of the Pentagon

In a Not-Remotely-Comic Strip, Bill Ayers Weighs In on What He Meant By ‘We Didn’t Do Enough’ to End Vietnam War from Jake Tapper’s Political Punch features a smarmy justification for the Weather Underground’s bombings of the Pentagon and Capitol

Posted by: PAXALLES | September 9, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

I can’t wait for McCain /Palin to get elected so I can lose my job, pay for higher gas, lose my home, lose my car and lose my son in a lie of a war when the military draft is re-instated. The next 4 years of McCain looks promising doesn’t it America?

Posted by: kgj | September 9, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

pamela, they were fired from the anchor position. The message was the same regardless of the details. Tom Brokaw was tired of seeing his ratings drop because of MSNBC’s biased coverage of the elections.

Posted by: billy bob | September 9, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

So if Obama is an anticapitalistic revolutionary, as his critics claim, why would a corporate media be on his side, as his critics also claim?
Are General Electric and Disney secretly run by anticapitalistic revolutionaries?
Still waiting…

Posted by: Maurizio | September 9, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

dadanarchist, corporate types often hobnob with the radical left. There are lots of reasons.
1)They themselves are 60s counterculture veterans (Steve Jobs) who believe in this nonsense.
2)They are blackmailed and mau-mau’ed into doing so via shakedown tactics refined by Jackson and Sharpton. Hand over investor and customer cash to those who loathe and hate you to buy temporary restraint from demonstrations, “discrimination” lawsuits, and all the rest of the clown show taken seriously by the left media.
3)They or their wives seek to socially climb in a cultural atmosphere where radical chic rules, and nothing is more praiseworthy than ostentatious displays of fawning generosity to those of other backgrounds (see Cindy McCain, Princess Diana, etc.)
4) They have absorbed the narrative that being middle-class, white, and successful in business is something to be ashamed of, and seek to exorcise their guilt. The left loves to do away with guilt when it comes to things like aborting babies, dumping spouses, engaging in bizarrely unnatural behavior, etc., but exploits guilt the fullest when it comes to milking those who actually carry the burden of making our First World economy really function.

Posted by: Carney | September 9, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

I would tend to agree with some of the Obama supporters if it were only one questionable relationship. However, there are at least three who we’ve heard about: Rev. Wright, Rezko, and Ayers. Every time any one of them was first brought up, Obama’s immediate reaction was to deny and say that he barely knew them or people were misunderstanding them. Later, after it is dragged out, we find out that the relationship is much more than what he said. Even if you want to call them “associations”, none of these three are people who most of us would even be around.

Posted by: Susan | September 9, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

“Many other perfectly normal people associate with him too, or should we condemn the entire staff of the University of Chicago as terrorists by association?”
Yes, this is an excellent point. Why is there not any angry mob outside of University of Chicago Law School professor and prominent conservative legal scholar Richard Posner’s house right now demanding him to denounce his association with both Obama and Ayers.

Posted by: dadanarchist | September 9, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

So what? This old hippie isn’t scary in the least. Now, the Alaska Independence Party and Palin’s church of end-of-the-worlders, they SCARE me.

Posted by: nordstrom | September 9, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Just because Obama was a kid when Ayers was Bombing American Buildings such as the Pentagon, and having 2 of his fellow Weather Underground Terrorists blown up while making a Bomb, that does not insulate Obama from his ties to the STILL unrepentant terrorist! And it is a reason we will not vote for him!!

Posted by: Sherrika | September 9, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

“corporate types often hobnob with the radical left. There are lots of reasons.”
This is a patently stupid defense. Being on a board together is not “hobnobbing.” It is business as usual, it is how these things work. I interact with all sorts of people in my daily life that I otherwise have nothing to do with.
Now, perhaps if they went windsurfing together, I’d be more concerned, but this whole story is simply noise.

Posted by: lordbyron | September 9, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Maurizio: There are a lot of people who have made bundles of money on capitalism and then decide to give to others or support that notion. Just look at Oprah, she made a fortune off of women and their plight, but when it came time to support a black man or a woman, she went to the black man. Now even if all those woman quit watching her program, she’s already made all the money she could want. Also, don’t you think for one minute that Obama isn’t looking forward to making tons of money. He is enjoying the fruits of capitalism while at the same time trying to make points on class warfare.

Posted by: Susan | September 9, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

I love it when conservatives really get going on the issues! We have the facts, the solutions that work in the laboratory of the real world, the right values and the right approach. We’re digging deeper at this stage in the game. The American public is not convinced by oft-repeated accusations and compelling platitudes. You can’t argue with the facts – Obama and his supporters are all making personal attacks because they can’t hit the facts. They’re on the ropes. Give ‘em substance! Crush ‘em with the truth! Keep it coming! When we fight, we cannot lose.

Posted by: Concerned_Citizenry | September 9, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Must we fight the Vietnam war and the anti-war movement of the 1960′s-’70′s all over again in the press, just to try to smear Obama? Or do the McCain supporters actually think we should go back to Vietnam and WIN the war with bombs and missles??? That “almost” seems to be the attitude some of them portray! Either learn the lessons of Vietnam, or else just leave it out of the debate altogether!

Posted by: Jordan | September 9, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Where is Campbell Brown and Anderson Cooper when you need them?
They have blasted Palin all week – interview from Alaska after interview. Campbell said she has a right to be bias and vet only Palin. Stupid reasoning if you ask me.
But, she misses the point – don’t do any fluff interviews with Obama and Biden – investigate them toooooo!!!!!!!!!
But no, CNN is worse than MSNBC.

Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | September 9, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

I am concerned that my vote would go to a person who sat on a board created by a man who was a Domestic Terrorist. I am second guessing my Vote.

Posted by: Chaunte | September 9, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

“I love it when conservatives really get going on the issues!”
Too bad they forgot to include issues at their convention. Too bad, from the lips of Rick Davis, that this election isn’t about issues, it’s about the candidates’ stories of themselves. Too bad all the GOP has left is character attack.

Posted by: lordbyron | September 9, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Fact: Obama was Chairman of the Board
and Bill Ayers was the Co-Chair. Bill
Ayers put Obama as Chair, the Chicago
Annenberg Challengefor almost 8 years.

Posted by: lou011 | September 9, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Jordan, the enemy won just fine with bombs and missiles.
You want the lesson of Vietnam? Look at the difference between 1973 and 1975. In 1973, Nixon was still in office having been re-elected by a landslide. We had Vietnamized the war, with no more ground troops in place, providing only airpower backup, funds, and weapons. When the Communists (being Communists) broke their solemnly given, Nobel Prize winning peace agreement with us and went back to their violently aggressive ways, staging an enormous cross border land invasion (the South’s Viet Cong had been wiped out in 1968), the South WON, without any US ground troops, but making good use of our airpower, money, and weapons.
A successful strategy. The Communists limped home, their tails between their legs.
The problem was, Watergate. Routine business under the Daleys, Kennedy, etc turned into a national ordeal and political catastrophe, Nixon resigns and the ultra-Left “Watergate babies” come to power in Congress.
The Communists sense their opportunity and struck again in 1975 in an invasion bigger than Hitler’s assualt on Poland. Ford personally, in an unprecedented gesture of humble outreach, personally appeared as a witness at an appropriations hearing, begging the hard-Left Congress not to keep faith with our ally as before.
Instead they cut off all funds, weapons, and air support. Many South Vietnamese fought bitterly and bravely but were overwhelmed.
So the real lesson of Vietnam is, if you are an enemy of America, you can COUNT on the media and radical Left politicians to do your work for you.
The enemy can never defeat us on the battlefield. It can only defeat us here on the home front.
And lots of important and powerful people are working HARD to ensure that America loses this war, just like in Vietnam.
Oh, but they’re PATRIOTS. We must never question their PATRIOTISM.

Posted by: Carney | September 9, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Ayers plotted to plant a nail bomb at Fort Dix, New Jersey during a dance attended by soldiers and their wives/girlfriends. Ayers was planning to kill people, he just didn’t manage to pull it off. Now he wants to pretend he was non-violent? His colleagues were killed while manufacturing anti-personel explosives, for God’s sake.

Posted by: Billdemo | September 9, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

I meant of course that Ford was “begging the hard-Left Congress to keep faith with our ally as before”; I accidentally wrote “not keep faith.”
ABC, this comment board’s lack of ability to edit posts is pathetic. I’m sure AOL has this technology in 1993.

Posted by: Carney | September 9, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Obama was tipped off by President
White, University of Illinois as
to what records they would keep
confidential. They’re all in bed
together. Imagine if Obama has such
power when he isn’t even the POTUS,
what’s going to happen if he does
become POTUS?

Posted by: lou011 | September 9, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Nice try Ayers, just trying to cover for your friend Obama! It won’t work w/ anyone who isn’t drinking the Obama Kool Aid!

Posted by: D'Obama | September 9, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Isn’t it consistent that all most Obama supporters can do is name-calling! No facts. Just hateful little parrots delivering lines directly from the Koolaid Newsletter.
For the truly brave truth-seekers, here’s a great reading list. You’ll have to DO IT YOURSELF and not let anybody else do your thinking for you.
Google “Obama Ayers”
Google “Obama Bernadine”
Google “Obama Frank Davis”
Google “Obama Khalid al-Mansour”
Google “Obama Saul Alinski”
Google “Obama Wright”
Google “Obama Malcolm X”
Google “Obama Donald Warden”
Google “Obama Percy Sutton”
Google “Obama Alwaleed bin Talal”
Google “From each according to his means, to each according to his needs”

Posted by: TexGEOas | September 9, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Thomas Ayers was Chairman of Commonwealth Edison(Exelon). Power and money kept his son William out of prison and in a cushy academia job. Obama is pary of the Chicago machine which does the bidding of Exelon. Obama is the one who killed an amendment that would prevent taxpayer bailout of power plants like Exelon.
Posted by: geevill | Sep 9, 2008 3:25 pm
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Geevill: You made the same point I was about to make so to add to your excellent point:
Obama also interned at Sidney AustinLaw firm in 1989 where he met Michelle who was also working there. Bill Ayers wife Bernadine Dohrn also was a lawyer working there. Later, Obama worked as an associate lawyer at Miner and Barnhill Law firm–Judson Miner is a close friend of Ayers.
Obama and Ayers served on an anti-poverty board, Woods Fund of chicago from 1999-2002 (Ironic that Obama’s relations live in poverty in Kenya).
From earliest days in Chicago, Obama’s path has been intertwined with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. He cannot claim ignorance to Ayers past and cannot claim it doesn’t matter now.

Posted by: S Adams | September 9, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Remember when Obama tried to explain away Wright’s anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state’s support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his claim that the award to Farrakhan was made because of his work with ex-offenders, Obama made that up out of thin air. Wright’s statements denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way. Ayers terrorist activities, and Obamas ties to him later in life, are clearly detailed.

Posted by: Raynell | September 9, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Carney : I’m afraid you prove my point.

Posted by: Jordan | September 9, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Ayers: “But warnings were always called in, and by design no one was ever hurt.”
Then why was the bomb that killed your girlfriend “designed” with roofing nails and dynamite? That’s a bomb meant TO KILL PEOPLE, not level a building!
As far as “no one was ever hurt”, try telling that to the family of Officers Brian V. McDonnell, Edward O’Grady, and Waverly Brown, and security guard Peter Paige.
Mr. Ayers, the fact that you still breath free is a shameful failure of the American justice system.

Posted by: ynot4tony2 | September 9, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Obama supporters are more afraid of Palin’s make-believe book bans than his close ties to a terrorist.

Posted by: cindy in nc | September 9, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Don’t you love it when a “leftist” calls the right thinking people of America “idiots” and then goes on to simply hurl insults and inuendo? It certainly is one tactic in an attempt to change the subject from Obama’s friendship with the Terrorist William Ayers, but not a very affective one.

Posted by: Bill | September 9, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

LordByron, I remember hearing Obama say that, too. No issues. McCain skipped the economy at the convention. I remember him taking Rick Davis’ comment out of context. Obama’s latest matra for success is “No more of the same.” But he’s avoiding the content of everything McCain is saying. Beyond simple rhetoric, Obama has some pretty scary skeletons in the closet. Associates matter for a presidential candidate. On taxes, social spending, and offshore drilling, McCain has the right answers. The debates will unmistakably reveal the difference between substance and style.

Posted by: Concerned_Citizenry | September 9, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Let’s see, Ayers and Obama were in the “community organizer” business together for about 3-4 years wherein they “helped” local schools (no progress ever reported); “worked” to find and renovate residences for the poor (Retzko was loaned or given community organizer money to do just that) but the properties have been boarded up for a long time and never used…Retzko in jail today; Obama/Ayers as community organizers applied for and were given $50 million per year to do the stuff above which never got done and there is still $49 million unaccounted for. You do the math. You do the research. But, that is a useless request to people who are so blinded by ideology they cannot see, hear or feel!!! Ayers should have left this country and gone where he would be so much more appreciated. Instead he has worked diligently to offer programs that have brainwashed children for lo these many years.

Posted by: sharinlite | September 9, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

The Ayers are totally relevent as the whole group Obama and his wife, Wright, Exelon, Daley, Emil Jones and son, Pfleger, …well everyone is connected in the corrupt Chicago scene. MONEY, POWER, and CORRUPTION. A LEFTIST TERRORIST LIKE AYERS IS CELEBRATED.

Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Bill Ayers, Bill Ayers, Bill Ayers…..
Why? Why? Why? Why have you just given the likes of Sean Hannity the ammunition that he was just looking for?
Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and others are sooooooooo against senator Obama.
And I personally believe that the bitterness and vitriol spewing from the hearts and lips of Rush and Sean against Obama is rooted in racism…..
Back to Ayers:
You sending a message by bombing government buildings was nothing short of stupid and criminal.

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

I noticed that I have not heard Biden and Hillary attacking Palin but Obama is. Biden should be the attack dog against Palin. It appears that Obama is making the presidential race against him and Palin. Hillary refuses to attack Palin. Did Biden refuse too? And, where is Biden? This is not good for Obama.

Posted by: Quincy | September 9, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

The officer that was killed in San Francisco lived for 2 days with his injuries, Bernadine Dohrne, william ayers Girlfriend conducted that bombing although she was never tried for the murder. So She does not even need Barack to Pardon her like Clinton did with 2 other members of the Weather Underground on his last day as president, nice. huh?

Posted by: queneesha | September 9, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Gee…all he had to do was leave out that one word “necessarily” and he would have been convincing. By adding int hat one word, he shows us his true nature. Disgraceful.

Posted by: slick | September 9, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Has anyone checked for Joe at the bar in Green Bay? I don’t blame him for wanting to stay there.

Posted by: geevill | September 9, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

As a lifelong democrat, it hurts me to see Republican presidential/vice-presidential candidates who are more appealing and much stronger than the candidates of my own party. I am a Hillary supporter who finds the unfair selection of Barack Obama as my party’s nominee so disturbing. The democratic party imposed Obama on us and now we are forced to either vote for John McCain or not vote at all.
With so many questionable associations, I, as a proud American, can not vote for Barack Obama in good conscience. I’d rather have a true American of the opposite party who is a war hero and a seasoned maverick as my president.
I will never, ever vote for a candidate whose pastor and mentor boastfully declared “God damn America” in his church. I sure don’t want a first lady like Michelle Obama who just became proud of America for the first time just because her husband took part in a presidentail campaign.
The anti-American sentiments of close associates on Obama’s part prevents me from voting for my party. I wish Hillary Clinton was the nominee! I know we would have won this election with Hillary. Too bad!
Well……sadly, it will be McCain-Palin for now and, hopefully, Hillary Clinton in 2012.
Peter
(A Disgusted Democrat)

Posted by: Peter | September 9, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Peter: I feel you Peter. I am an African American woman and I will voting for McCain/Palin this November to protect against the DNC party. A vote for McCain/Palin is a protest vote against the DNC. I am sad too but it must be done. DNC must be taught a lesson for the future.

Posted by: suzy | September 9, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

I do not blame the young people for supporting Obama because they just do not know any better. I do blame the middle age and older Americans 100% that support Obama as they should know from experience that raising your taxes and taxes on small business (the American backbone)in the econmy we are in will be devestating to say the least.

Posted by: billy bob | September 9, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Which Candidate is actually under investigation as we speak? Anyone?

Posted by: kgj | September 9, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Here’s another of Barack Obama’s friends that Americans should definitely know more about.
He is Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour (born Donald Warden) whose 1995 book claimed that the U.S. government was planning the genocide of black Americans. Dr. al-Mansour also has been a harsh critic of Israel and has served as a major advisor to Saudi Royal family members seeking to improve and extend their influence in the United States. And according to the Social Activism Project at the University of California at Berkeley, when he was still Donald Warden, the fellow was a mentor to Black Panthers Huey Newton and Bobby Seale.
Investor’s Business Daily last Friday wrote a fascinating editorial about Dr. al-Mansour’s assistance to Barack Obama. It is a short piece but the news it contains is explosive and certainly deserves careful attention. But, of course, the old guard media is interested only in associations that might hurt Republicans. And if they have studiously avoided exploring the connections of Barack Obama with the likes of Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Pfleger, Khalidi and others, why bother now with the revelation of this relationship

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Quincy:
I am not sure why Biden and Hillary are holding back against Palin…….

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Actually, Obama’s plan has significant tax breaks for small businesses including removing capital gains completely from startup businesses and a ramp up of small business loans to help people get started. He basically is offsetting all the costs of his healthcare plan for small businesses with tax rebates.

Posted by: johnTX | September 9, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

My concern is that if we keep up with these policies (since McCain has agreed with Bush 95% of the time) our beloved country won’t be here in 2012. Our economy is in a freefall.

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Can any of you Obama supporters name anyone in Obama’s sphere of friends other than Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Pfleger, Khalidi? Hmmmm

Posted by: jim | September 9, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

The entire Kennedy family came out in support of him, and I read recently that Nancy Reagan even said she supported him!

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

I do not want to here this stupid stuff concerning folks views on Wright, Pfleger, Newton, Farrakhan or anyone…..
The foolish racist folks brought about them…
Senator Obama is perhaps the best president this nation will ever elect….
If you don’t want him, then who do you want? Al Sharpton? Jesse Jackson?
WHO?
I am tired of looking at cookie cutter presidents……We need change!!!!
This nation is changing!!!! America is is multi-cultural nation…..And it will always be…….
Black man for president!!!! Like it or not….He will win.

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Independent08, My concern is if Obama gets elected and implements his:
– tax hikes on businesses and corporations, all the jobs will be gone.
– Global warming carbon credits will further cripple business nd not do a thing to stop climate change.
– Blocks oil drilling, new refineries, and new nuclear power plants, there won’t be enough energy to run our economy and we will be in even deeper debt to our enemies.
– Increases government spending by a TRILLION dollars will bankrupt the US and mire us in debt.
Obama’s economic policies will be a disaster for the US. Even Obama had to admit his tax hike would not be a good idea in a recession so even he knows that hiking taxes on businesses kills job growth.

Posted by: terry | September 9, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Anybody who votes for Palin/McSame based on this is a fool.
What is with all this negative stuff against Obama? So, you are so against him that you are actually going to vote for MC> and a evangelical who is against choice and doesn’t believe in gloabal warming?
I don’t think the planet, let alone the US can take another 4 years of ignorance.

Posted by: needachange | September 9, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Aesop’s Fables Kind of fits the Dem’s always running arround trying to scare people.
“The As’s in the Lion’s Skin
An as’s, having put on the Lion’s skin, roamed about in the forest and amused himself by frightening all the foolish animals he met in his wanderings. At last coming upon a Fox, he tried to frighten him also, but the Fox no sooner heard the sound of his voice than he exclaimed, “I might possibly have been frightened myself, if I had not heard your bray.”
Clothes may disguise a fool, but his words will give him away.”

Posted by: drobb | September 9, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

john tx, you are obviously not a small business owner. If you are a sub-s and bring in over $250,000/yr gross than Obama is going to raise your taxes to 39%. He may be offering some carrots for new start up’s but this country isnt employed by start up’s. Get your facts straight, Obama is not a friend of mine, a small business owner.

Posted by: billy bob | September 9, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Obama has denounced Reverand Wright as divisive and destructive and cut off all ties with him. It isn’t like he went on those crazy tangents every sermon. Most were frankly, banal. And Obama never actually attended the crazy ones… actually Obama probably doesn’t want to say this, but I get the feeling he wasn’t exactly going to church on a regular basis.
If you want to get into crazy pastors, you may want to look at McCain’s friend and spiritual guide, John Hagee who denounced Catholicism as a false cult, said Katrina was God’s punishment against New Orleans and they deserved it and that the Holocaust was brought upon the Jews because they “turned away from the true God”.
Then let’s go into Palin’s minister problems. Her church believes that we are on a holy war for God in Iraq (sounds an awful lot like radical islam), believes you can pray away homosexuality, believes Jesus was a militant warrior who called on people to die in wars, believes that Alaska will be a refuge state for the apocalypse and said, God “is gonna strike out his hand against… America”. Apparently Palin’s minister’s God hates America. Who knew?
Of course we can get into Biden’s priest. Luckily Catholic sermons are pretty boring standard fare that don’t go much past reading from the bible. Of course they have the whole little boy scandals (not that Biden’s priest does of course).
The fact is, religious leaders often hold some fringe views. The second they start pretend they know God’s will, they inevitably venture into territory that makes them look ridiculous.

Posted by: johnTX | September 9, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

shalom
I’m a black man who changed my mind about Obama after hearing his acceptance speech. I’m so angry that he did not mention Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. by name in his acceptance speech! Not even once! He just said “a young preacher……….” Why? Is Barack better than MLK?? I was so upset that I donated money to the McCain campaign as soon as Obama finished his speech. I was hoping to hear MLK’s name until the last minute of his speech. But it was never to be. Because of that, Obama will never get my vote. If he can not respect black icons like MLK, he will never get my vote or my respect.

Posted by: Eugene | September 9, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

shalom, So the only reason you are voting for Obama is because of his race? In Martin Luther King’s ” I have a dream speech Martin Luther King said: “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” Guess you don’t agree with Martin Luther King and use a color of Obama’s skin to judge his character?
Sorry, I do think Obama’s skin color is a good reason for voting for him. Obama’s radical associations with Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Pfleger, Khalidi and others, tells me a lot about Obama’s character and judgment. What it tells me is that Obama has very poor judgment and dubious character.

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

“Old Friends Recall Obama’s Years in LA, NY”
Since we’re talking about friends and associates, I thought this was interesting.

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Actually billy bob, I am a small business owner (on my third company – sold the other two).
Yes, I find taxes to be problematic, but honestly, I pass on the cost mostly to the customer. Since my competition does the same thing, I have a level playing field.
I’m much more worried about education and trade than I am about taxes. I have a hard time hiring people. Our Universities are full of foreigners who, instead of staying in the US after college, are opting to go back to their country in larger numbers. Obama’s focus on getting every American a college education is extremely important to me because it means that I won’t have to spend 2 months trying to hire someone for a position.
As I said, trade is also terribly important. McCain wants to open up trade even more than it already is. I’m all for free trade, but only when it is fair. When other countries are providing massive subsidies to their industries so they can dump products in the US below cost, it is hard to maintain faith in a free market economy. The truth is our economy was built on protectionism. Now I’m not saying we should go back to taxing imports at 40% like we used to, but I think we should make sure America is on an equal playing field with the people we trade with.

Posted by: johnTX | September 9, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

johnTX, Obama attended Wright’s church for twenty years and referred to Wright as his “mentor” and “friend” and “Uncle”. So to say Obama had no awareness of Wright’s hate whitey and anti-America beliefs is just not credible. Than there are Obama’s other radical and anti-American friends and associates including Ayers, Rezko, Pfleger, Khalidi and others. Can you name one close friend in Obama’s sphere of friends that is not an unrepentant terrorist, hate whitey black liberation theology believer, anti-American, or crook? The people you mention to smear McCain with do not come close to the hate filled views of Obama’s friends and were not close friends and associates of McCain. Plus, McCain and Palin have many friends and associates in their sphere of friends that are good people who have served their country and love America. Obama has no such friends.

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Terry,
You raise some valid concerns.
My reason for leaning away from current policies (and McCain who voted for them 95% of the time) is that things have gotten progressively worse each year since Bush was elected. If we keep doing the same thing, it seems unlikely that would change. What’s the quote, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing in the same way and expecting different results.” (Ben Franklin)
I like the fact that Obama is actively working toward new sources of renewable energy. I live in a state that’s gotten a lot of new jobs in recent years by focusing on this. (Wind, solar, ethanol, etc.)
The more we can find safe ways to minimize our dependence on foreign oil the better!

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

In my earlier post, I tried to post a link from a news article, but it didn’t go through. Here’s a quote from it:
[The roommate] would mock Obama’s idealism _ he just wanted to make a lot of money and buy things, while Obama wanted to help the poor.
“At that age, I thought he was a saint and a square, and he took himself too seriously. I would ask him why he was so serious. He was genuinely concerned with the plight of the poor. He’d give me lectures, which I found very boring. He must have found me very irritating.”

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

shalom said: “And I personally believe that the bitterness and vitriol spewing from the hearts and lips of Rush and Sean against Obama is rooted in racism…..”
Do you have any evidence to back this up? Of course not. Maybe they don’t like him beause he’s a Democrat, genius!

Posted by: ynot4tony2 | September 9, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

john tx, I agree with some of what you are saying but not all of it. First, i am happy that you are in a business that can just pass along higher cost (taxes) and it does not affect your bottom line. But by passing those cost on as you put it, Obama has raised taxes on the average American consumer indirectly. As far as education goes, this is the bottom line. Everyone in this country is not college material. I agree we need to make it easier to get a college education for those who want it but for those who dont, we need to make it easier for them to learn a trade. I am in agreement with you on trade but Obama has no plan for this that I have heard. This is a world economy and whoever is the next president needs to focus on leveling the playing field with our foreign competition. I find it hard to understand how a seemingly smart businessman like yourself could support Obamas policies? That baffels me.

Posted by: billy bob | September 9, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

kgj asked: “Which Candidate is actually under investigation as we speak? Anyone?”
The same candidate who has been very open about said investigation (probably, most likely, because she has nothing to hide).
Which poster on this blog takes the side of a drinking and driving while on duty policeman that threatened to kill his own father-in-law and tasered an 11 year old boy? Anyone?
How awful that you defend the indefensible, all because you have nothing legitimate to criticize Palin with. Shame on you.

Posted by: ynot4tony2 | September 9, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

it’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood, as long as you agree with the neighbor in charge.

Posted by: Esbiem | September 9, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

I do not condone the bombs; however, I applaud anyone that stood up against the Vietnam war that killed almost 60,000 US military.
I have read articles about Ayers. He was very sincere in his belief that if a person did not take action against immoral action, the person was a worthless. They never intended to harm anyone. How many people will stand up for what is wrong while knowing the possible consequences of their actions.
Ayers is very highly regarded in the education world. Ayers and his wife have been outstanding citizens that have contributed greatly to the advancement of good in their work.

Posted by: Stan | September 9, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

johnTX said: “If you want to get into crazy pastors, you may want to look at McCain’s friend and spiritual guide, John Hagee…”
Please tell me who Hagee is McCain’s “spiritual guide”, when McCain never attended his church once in his life? Never sought his counsel, never invited him to join his campaign.
Oh, but Barack’s hands are clean of Wright, you say. Wow! What a stunning example of back-asswards logic you Demcorats will employ to lie to yourself!

Posted by: ynot4tony2 | September 9, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Response to Droob re: Palin & Global Warming
Attn: droob and all other disciples of global warming.
Global warming is a fact of nature that is not in dispute. The question is, “Is human activity affecting this natural phenomena?” Well let me pose a few questions since you are so certain you are right in your assumptions and Gov. Palin is ignorant.
What is the composition of our atmosphere and specifically what how much is composed of CO2? How much would it take to double it? (this one is easy if you know the answer to the first)
What component of the atmosphere is most responsible for the greenhouse affect? Give you a hint. It’s not CO2.
What is the MWP? Another hint: it was warmer then, than it is now and people were not driving SUV’s.
What are “feedbacks”? That’s a tough one.
What is the “process” by which mother earth warms and cools itself? Did you say convection? Darn you got one. Oh I thought you said…..never mind.
So let me guess you heard about global warming on MTV. Shocker!
I’ll bet the Gov could answer these questions. Now let us extrapolate and make a prediction , you are a liberal democrat! See how easy that is? I was able to ask you a few simple questions. Determine that you have no idea what you are talking about and accurately deduce that you are a democrat. Kid’s play!

Posted by: Stylus | September 9, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Eugene:
I understand your frustration there….But, please know that senator Obama has mentioned Dr. King in many of his speeches……When he takes a flight of history, he general mentions King…..
You are right, he should have mentioned King by name….In fact, when he kept saying “Now is the time”…..that’s a direct quote from King’s speech in ’63…….and he used other quotes from the speech. But, he gave honor to King by accepting it on the same date….
The symbolism was so clear…..I am not sure if his advisor suggested he not as to not over do it…..
Now, Obama merely sits on the shoulders of MLK……
I believe he respects him a lot…..So, do not let that change your mind concerning Obama……he represents the dream King was referring to….

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm

Mary:
If Clarence Thomas were the GOP nominee for president against Hillary Clinton, I would vote for Clinton….
So, to suggest that I am voting for Obama merely because of his race is nothing short of silly…..
However, it looks to me that a lot of women are flocking to Palin because of her gender….Are you one of them?

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Independent08 said: “My reason for leaning away from current policies (and McCain who voted for them 95% of the time) is that things have gotten progressively worse each year since Bush was elected.”
First, the number is 90%. Second, most Senate votes are unanimous (meaning Uh-uh-uh-bama votes with Bush more than 50% of the time). Third, Doh-bama votes party line far, far more than McCain does.
And things have gotten “progressively worse” every year? Bush inherited the dot.com recession, but brought the employment back to levels Clinton would brag about…but then Democrats won Congress and employment started to slip. Terrorist attacks on American interests stopped after 9-11.
Somehow, that’s “worse” to you?

Posted by: ynot4tony2 | September 9, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

ynot4tony2:
Obviously you do not listen to Sean and Rush……Those guys do not hide their radical and bitter views easily….

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Obama Dirty Tricks, Biden Plagiarism, AFL-CIO FARC Connection To Disrupt RNC

INVESTIGATING PALIN INSTEAD<br style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial,Helvetica…

Posted by: The Pink Flamingo | September 9, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

No need for childish insults.
It depends on the source whether it’s 90 or 95%. You’re going to quibble about 5%? Also the economy has been going down hill FAR longer than the democrats have been in congress, and I know that Bush was on vacation a lot, but he still has veto power and is a Republican. Obama might vote with his party, but that’s because he agrees with his party, the Democrats. The Republicans controlled the congress most of the Bush presidency.

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

shalom, Your post sure sounded like the only reason you were voting for Obama was due to his race. So why are you voting for Obama? Obama has a been proven to use poor judgment when selecting his friends Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Pfleger, Khalidi and others. Obama’s economic policies will destroy our economy including:
– high taxes on businesses that will kill the job market
– no drilling which will keep our energy supplies low and increase our dependency on foreign oil,
– increase Federal spending by TRILLION dollars which will increase our deficit,
– declare defeat in Iraq and turn it over to Al Qaeda making a 9/11 attack much more likely.
President Bush has not been given the credit he deserves for preventing another 9/11 attack and getting our economy growing again after 9/11 and Katrina. However, President Bush has not been able to get the economy moving after the Democratic Congress took over two years ago. That’s is when our economy started to decline which is in main due to the economic policies the Dems and Obama started to implement including blocking oil drilling and encouraging fannie and freddie to make high risk loans.
So to answer your question, I am not voting for McCain/Palin because Palin is a woman. I am voting for McCain/Palin because I think they have policies that will start our economy growing again and will protect us against Al Qaeda and other US enemies. Obama will do the opposite. Obama will destroy the economy and weaken our defense against our enemies. Country First. Obama’s economic and Security Policies are bad for America.
McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: Mary | September 9, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

America!!!
Are you ready to elect a man of color to be your president? You should stop trying to find reasons why you shouldn’t be ready…..
This will place America in a position of leadership around the world…..
America, you have a chance to make history here…..McCain knows that, and that is why I feel he place a woman on his ticket…..

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Mary:
Vote for whoever you want to……

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Shalom, You cite Obama’s skin color as the only reason for voting for Obama. Well I am not a racist and will judge Obama by “the content of his character not the color of his skin” as Martin Luther King wanted all of us to do.
If Obama was of good character, had good judgment and did not want to implement policies that will destroy our economy and make us more vulnerable to another 9/11 attack, I would most certainly vote for him. Unfortunately, Obama will do all of the above so: NO OBAMA 08
McCain/Palin 2008.

Posted by: terry | September 9, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

First, in case you think I’m a Democrat, I voted for Bush.
Unfortunately, Bush’s policies have actually weakened us as a country. He has overextended our military and focused them away from true terrorist strongholds. In addition, we have sent our National Guard to other countries instead of keeping them here to protect us from attacks on our soil and GUARD OUR NATION.
He has also alienated countries that had been our allies for half a century or more. International experts including those from his OWN party have said repeatedly that his unwillingness to cooperate with other nations endangers us. Since he has made enemies out of former friends, who will come to our aid if we’re attacked?
Also, authorizing torture is 1)WRONG 2)destroys our credibility around the world as a moral nation.
Experts on terror say that we’re actually more vulnerable now than we were in 2001 because our actions have actually encouraged more people (whose homes have been bombed and families have been killed/tortured) to become terrorists who hate America.
Still, McCain thinks we’re on the right track.

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Ayers and his cronies say they never killed anyone. Not True! His own members were killed making bombs and security guards will killed during an armed robbery of a Armored Car. And still Ayers and his wife walk the streets free and never showed any remorse for their actions.

Posted by: Will | September 9, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

“Experts on terror”
Can you name them? Bloggers on the dailykos?

Posted by: Mack | September 9, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

@ttn Independent08
The Bush regime has been more fascist than Republican — and it is REALLY not fair to lay “torture” at McCain’s door, because he opposed the “Republican” president on torture.
McCain can be a little burbly about military matters, maybe — but sheesh! Obama and Biden pay homage to every bit of soldier-cult silliness themSELVES, not they know the first thing about being in the service.
Remember “hope” and “change”? We can HOPE McCain means it when he says he wants to bring a “swamp-draining” CHANGE to DC. We know Obama and Biden don’t mean it — or they’d have something to say besides whining about Sarah Palin, who has more political class that the two of them put together.

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 9, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

I can’t remember all of the people from the news report since it was awhile ago but here are two that I do remember.
Richard Lugar, Republican, former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

My vote for the most informed blogger today:
First, in case you think I’m a Democrat, I voted for Bush.
Unfortunately, Bush’s policies have actually weakened us as a country. He has overextended our military and focused them away from true terrorist strongholds. In addition, we have sent our National Guard to other countries instead of keeping them here to protect us from attacks on our soil and GUARD OUR NATION.
He has also alienated countries that had been our allies for half a century or more. International experts including those from his OWN party have said repeatedly that his unwillingness to cooperate with other nations endangers us. Since he has made enemies out of former friends, who will come to our aid if we’re attacked?
Also, authorizing torture is 1)WRONG 2)destroys our credibility around the world as a moral nation.
Experts on terror say that we’re actually more vulnerable now than we were in 2001 because our actions have actually encouraged more people (whose homes have been bombed and families have been killed/tortured) to become terrorists who hate America.
Still, McCain thinks we’re on the right track.
Posted by: Independent08 | Sep 9, 2008 6:10:20 PM

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

terry:
Obama is more than a skin color….Why not read and study about him for yourself?

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Thank you Shalom!

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

gary:
why don’t you count the number of people who died of cancer because of inadequate health care..What about AIDS? Think about all the other problems we have besides a terrorist attack……
If your vote for McCain is rooted in your fear of a terrorist attack, then you deserve him as your president…..
But, if you truly want to see the world move forward with real diplomacy, and ultimately, more peace, then vote for Obama….
PS. You are responsible for protecting your family, and not the president of the United States of America….remember that.

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

terry:
it seems that you merely soak up the “trash talk” of Sean Hannity…..
Go and read about him yourself…..bud…
and visit his website sometimes…..Before you leave it, you may just contribute after he impresses you…..

Posted by: shalom | September 9, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

Still waiting for an answer: If Obama is a Marxist, then why are General Electric and Disney supporting him (as his critics claim both)?
Other than the suggestion that GE is, for example, an anticapitalistic corporation.

Posted by: Maurizio | September 9, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

shalom, Based on that logic you should be voting for President Bush. President Bush has spent more on fighting Aids in Africa than any other President in history. As to cancer, Obama’s government run health care systems would destroy the private health care sector It is the private sector health care system, not government, that has made so much progress against cancer via new treatments that would not go forward if the government takes over and crushes innovation.
As to peace, Obama will not bring peace Obama will bring war. If Obama is elected our enemies will be emboldened as they know Obama is weak and will not stand up against them.

Posted by: gary | September 9, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

shalom, all you can do is name call because you know every thing I said about Obama is true. Deal with it.

Posted by: terry | September 9, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

Media obesessed with bringing down Governor Sarah Palin for the 8th straight day. Media has absolutely snapped, they dont even try to hide it.Pathetic is not a strong enough description.
Meanwhile, you hear virtually nothing about the obviously unqualified empty suit, or the radical left racist, communist mentors and friends of Obama, or his shady earmarks, almost a billion including 1,000,000.00 for his wifes hospital, and 250,000,00 for Father Plfleger who preaches radical racial politics from the pulpit, as did Wright.
Where is the investigation into the 14,000,000.00 Rezko got from Obama after Rezkos generous campaign donations including over 200,000.
Barack Obama is running for president and with a resume as thin as tissue, and a whole closet full natioanal security related anti-american skeletons.
Do you job media. Sarah Palin is has far better credentials and character, yet you attack her.

Posted by: Badger | September 9, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Gary,
The “myth” that Bush has made the U.S. unpopular around the world is, sadly, supported by polls conducted by nonpartisan researchers.
I absolutely wish you were right and I were wrong. The military is overextended. Top military leaders say that repeatedly.
I agree that we need strong interrogation tactics, but there is a line between that and torture which I oppose.
Obama isn’t against the use of military force. He just wants to use it strategically and wisely. Allowing terrorists to regroup in Pakistan and Afghanistan while we were focused on Iraq was and is dangerous.
Here is a quote from the threat assessment posted on the FBI’s website:
“We assess the group has
protected or regenerated key elements of its Homeland attack capability, including: a
safehaven in the Pakistan Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), operational
lieutenants, and its top leadership. Although we have discovered only a handful of
individuals in the United States with ties to al-Qa’ida senior leadership since 9/11, we judge
that al-Qa’ida will intensify its efforts to put operatives here….We assess that al-Qa’ida will continue to enhance its capabilities to attack the Homeland
through greater cooperation with regional terrorist groups.”

Posted by: Independent08 | September 9, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

“Where is the investigation into the 14,000,000.00 Rezko got from Obama after Rezkos generous campaign donations including over 200,000.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 9, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Belle Starr – Glad you’re on board. It’s comforting to know that not everybody has succumbed to the snakeoil salesman/community organizer, who has already annointed himself “The ONE” and the next president. This would be funny if it werent so scary.

Posted by: Badger | September 9, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Obama isn’t really a crony of Bill Ayers and he’s not really backed by friends of the Weather Underground. Not! It’s shameless that the libs and socialists dismiss everything negative about their so-called Messiah.

Posted by: Roberto | September 9, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

This delusional narcissist of a man who would re-design the presidential seal (before he was even out of the primaries) who would write 2 memoirs about himself (as if becoming a jr senator/community organizer is some worthy achievment) a coke snorting, weed smoking leftist, who expects us to believe he is “The ONE” we’ve all been waiting for. Who would audaciously ask the German government to use one of Germanys most sacred locations Brandenburg Gate, as a photo op during a U.S. election. Who would then need to have, a Greek Temple backdrop behind him to accept the nomination of his party. Wow, and this barely scratches the surface of the ego-maniacal Obama. Again all of this from a community organizer/jr senator????? The utter audacity of Barack Obama,, there are no words.

Posted by: Badger | September 9, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

Gary, I agree with you, if Obama is prepared to declare defeat in Iraq when victory is in sight, what will he do when the chips are really down? I guess the answer to that question is pretty obvious. I just hope that the people in the US wake up and see how dangerous a person Obama would be to our security, including all you Obama supporters on this post.

Posted by: henry | September 9, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Rodney: I know you are an Obama supporter who is now way down in the polls. Apparently you don’t understand the biography of McCain or you wouldn’t make stupid statements. McCain’s plane was shot down and he was captured and put in a POW camp. That story ran on TV for three days showing McCain being taken out of the plane. Get real.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 9, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

you have to understand that mccain was a—d —average student—and without having a father who was a admiral-there is no way he could become a pilot–and the five planes he wrecked is proof of his inability——-am i wrong on this

Posted by: rodney | September 9, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Will: Ayers should have been put in jail and given a life sentence. Violence is not the answer and Ayers was anti-american to begin with. After the bombing he hid underground for several years then was arrested. When your a true American and love this country you respect it. He got away too easy. If he tried that in a foreign country he would have been long gone.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 9, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

why did the military want to try two or three of mccain pow buddies for treason–and called mccain a hero–they all did the same thing.

Posted by: rodney | September 9, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Yeah, yeah. ..and “THE ONE” is a rocket scientist. ::yawn::

Posted by: Roberto | September 9, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

I don’t believe this guy, Ayers. And it is not helping me vote for his friend Obama.

Posted by: Leona | September 9, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

what do you think vietnam vets against mccain is all about –they are outraged.
you need to search for the truth before you make decisions and flap childish nonsense
goodby
goodnight

Posted by: rodney | September 9, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

“I blame the courts for his freedom when he should have been locked up.”
You can blame the courts all you want, but you would be wrong.
The fault lies with Nixon, J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI. In the 1960′s, the FBI was conducting illegal counter-”subversion” activities that included the murder of unarmed leftists (like Fred Hampton in you very own Chicago), agent-provocateur tactics in which FBI agents would suggest and encourage violent tactics, illegal wiretapping and other intelligence gathering activities, forged documents and a number of other illegal activities to combat “subversion.” The whole program was known as COINTELPRO, as exposed by the Church Committee.
None of this vast material was admissible in court because it was tainted. A judge would have had to exclude the evidence. In fact, the government didn’t even try to prosecute either Ayers or Dohrn. They were “amnestied” in the late 1970′s. There is some speculation that one or more of the crimes for which they could have been prosecuted involved an FBI plant/double agent. To prosecute would have been to expose the government’s role in fomenting terrorism.
Personally – and I’m a leftist, much more leftist than Barack, who is a pro-corporate moderate – I think Ayers is a fool and a shameless self-promoter. Most people on “the Left” (whatever that is) think the same. I bet he is loving every second of the attention.

Posted by: wob | September 9, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Rodney: Yes, you need slamming because you your hate for McCain is getting the best of you. Well, I am not a fan of Obama’s and I am so glad he is down in the polls. He deserved that for his downright arrogance thinking he was above everyone else. Since he lives in Hyde Park like Ayers they can get together and cry in their beer.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 9, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

From an AP article on Sarah Palin:
“Since then, that basic script is all anyone has heard from her publicly, and her only interaction with the media was a brief conversation with a small group of reporters on her plane Monday – off the record at her handlers’ insistence.”
This is preposterous. Off the record?
You people take this seriously? This is the AP, for god’s sake; their current director of news, Ron Fournier, almost worked on the McCain campaign.
Why can’t she answer a question, on the record, live everybody else?

Posted by: wob | September 9, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

If it wasn’t for people, like Ayers who had the courage to protest strongly against the illegal war in Vietnam, MCCain would still be in a POW camp

Posted by: Truth Matters | September 9, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

Truth Matters – You and Jane Fonda agree on that one. Way to go Truth! You could have been a commie supporter, too. Welcome to the ‘Blame America First’ crowd and have some more Kool-Aid.

Posted by: Roberto | September 9, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

And to think, it was in this man’s home that Barack Obama launched his political career.

Posted by: Thank God for Karma | September 9, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

‘Blame America First’ crowd and have some more Kool-Aid.
Posted by: Roberto
******************************************** I don’t blame America for anything.
I do blame the people who keep themselves drunk on Hater-aid and either aren’t capable of dealing with the truth and seem to be proud to keep themselves willfully ignorant.
These are the people who keep our country from truely flourishing.

Posted by: Truth Matters | September 9, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

‘Truth Matters’ – Ah! ..so it’s you and your friends like Bill Ayers who “keep our country truely flourishing”. Yeah, right! Bomb Baby, Bomb! (and tell me you’re an good Obama supporter! That’ll make everyone want to support him, too.)

Posted by: Roberto | September 9, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Rods & Truth – I have to admit: Coming from you Kool-Aid drinking rocket scientists, I take those comments as compliments. Put lipstick on THAT pig!

Posted by: Rodney | September 9, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Rods & Truth – I have to admit: Coming from you Kool-Aid drinking rocket scientists, I take those comments as compliments. Put lipstick on THAT pig!

Posted by: Roberto (NOT Rodney) | September 9, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Brilliant, just Brilliant! Pick someone that emphasizes the maverick. That has actually done something about the now energy crisis for many citizens of her state and for you all in the rest of the nation. Let them be quit, let them build a mystery. Let the jackals and jealous take all their snipes and get them all out in the open. I am love’en it. The Washington Post can only go after legitimate pre-diem that 50% of the working force gets with government jobs. Biden alludes that his care is more care then someone else’s. Our change is real change, our lobbyists are less lobbyists then your lobbyists. What has been done for the real economy buster the energy by Biden, Obama or McCain? Did I mention history making choice? A real change and a real doer—Palin!!!

Posted by: Hank Irelan | September 9, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

You are right. It is not important what Ayers did 40 years ago. What is important is that this is kind of people one presidential hopeful chooses to associate with. I wouldn’t want to hang-out with this nut any more than I would want to hang-out with Charles Manson. It is a matter of judgement. I would chose to no longer call a person my friend who is known to have these type of associates. I would chose to reconsider voting for a president who is know to have these type of associates. Would you chose to have an associate or friend like Ayers? Would you chose to bomb several government installations as a dramatic form of armed propaganda aginst the Iraq war. Obviously one presidential elect thinks it is OK to associate with people like this. With associates like that I would not chose to have him as my friend or as president of my country.
How dare Ayers rationalize his actions by saying “But warnings were always called in, and by design no one was ever hurt.” He still bombed several government installations!!! The Vietnam War was wrong, but that does not justify his actions. He should have been put to death for treason against the USA.

Posted by: CAC man | September 9, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

ON A SERIOUS NOTE–THE WAR IN IRAQ IS AS SENSELESS AS THE NAM WAR—JUST A BUNCH OF POLITICAL BS -COSTING MANY LIVES AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS —POLITICAL HACKS MAKE FORTUNES ON WARS .AND WE THE THE DUMBELLS PAY ALL THE PRICE.CHECK WHY CHINA IS DEVELOPING OIL FIELDS AND GETTING OIL OUT OF CHINA–WHAT THE HELL ARE WE ABSOLUTELY STUPID—AND THIS ONE IS MCBUSHES BUDDYS BLAME.

Posted by: rodney | September 9, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

CAC MAN
SAME GOES FOR MCCAIN.

Posted by: rodney | September 9, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

MCCAIN–ALIAS THE CROWN PRINCE OF THE HANOI HILTON WHO HE WAS KNOWN AS ,SHOULD HAVE BEEN TRIED FOR TREASON FOR DENOUNCING THE USA ON RADIO BROADCASTS–AND DONT GIVE ME THAT TORTURE CRAP–AS HE WAS INJURED EJECTING FROM HIS AIRPLANE—HE DID ACTUALLY HAVE TWO BROKEN ARMS AND A BROKEN LEG–NOT FROM ANY TORTURE–MCCAINS STORY IS SIMPLY BY MCCAIN AND TWO OR THREE INVOLVED WITH HIM—

Posted by: rodney | September 9, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

Read a letter to eds in the NYT 9/9// Lady, obviously blackballing Palin, says only the best educated, most intelligent,most refined,and most traveled should be accepted for candidates to the highest offices in the greatest, most powerful nation in the world. And I got to thinking — that is just the leadership we’ve had for the past 50 years and look where it has taken us. Enough of that. No more Harvard and Yale — I’ll take my chances with a war hero and a gutsy hockey mom.

Posted by: Michael A. Snyder | September 9, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

Rodney:
“MCCAIN–ALIAS THE CROWN PRINCE OF THE HANOI HILTON WHO HE WAS KNOWN AS ,SHOULD HAVE BEEN TRIED FOR TREASON FOR DENOUNCING THE USA ON RADIO BROADCASTS–AND DONT GIVE ME THAT TORTURE CRAP–AS HE WAS INJURED EJECTING FROM HIS AIRPLANE—HE DID ACTUALLY HAVE TWO BROKEN ARMS AND A BROKEN LEG–NOT FROM ANY TORTURE–MCCAINS STORY IS SIMPLY BY MCCAIN AND TWO OR THREE INVOLVED WITH HIM—”
I see, Rodney, you weren’t there, but you know what REALLY happened. The guys who were there are just lyin to ya.. Yea Right.
Torture crap? You don’t know squat.. Give me 30 minutes with you and I’ll have you denouncing your own existance, calling your mother a whore and signing a statement about your sexual activities with your dog, just to make me stop .. and I won’t even leave a bruise on you (as much as that might push my self-restraint).
Go spew your ignorance somewhere else fool..
————
(correction to previous post – the linebacker link is below, click my nick..)

Posted by: Steeley | September 9, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

[McCain's plane was shot down and he was captured and put in a POW camp. ]
And Granpa has used that experience to justify his like for ABBA’s “Dancing Queen” and his 9 houses. McCain has cheapened POW status.

Posted by: Steve J. | September 9, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

Obama chaired the CAC for five years and so had some executive experience, but he didn’t brag about that ’cause the thing was a failure. Where did the $160,000.000 go?

Posted by: Michael A. Snyder | September 9, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

[Keep tellin yourself that.
More to the point, read General Bui Tin's interview..]
1) It’s Colonel, not general
2) Yes, they won, we lost. It’s time for you to grasp that.
3) Here’s what Bui Tin had to say:
In January 1967, after discussions with Le Duan, Gen. Thanh proposed the Tet Offensive. [snip] Only in July was his plan adopted by the leadership. Then Johnson had rejected Westmoreland’s request for 200,000 more troops. We realized that America had made its maximum military commitment to the war. Vietnam was not sufficiently important for the United States to call up its reserves. We had stretched American power to a breaking point. When more frustration set in, all the Americans could do would be to withdraw; they had no more troops to send over.
How North Vietnam won the war
Wall Street Journal. (Eastern edition).
New York, N.Y.: Aug 3, 1995. pg. A8
Copyright Dow Jones & Company Inc Aug 3, 1995
4) Yes, you are ignorant about the Vietnam War.

Posted by: Steve J. | September 9, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

I knew the WMAL broadcasters (Hannity, Plank, Limbaugh and Levin) had gotten all wrong. It didn’t square up that a “terrorist” would be teaching at a university and never thrown in jail.

Posted by: Common Sense | September 9, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Don’t you just love how the Obamanuts are reduced to comparing the top of their democratic ticket, to the bottom of the Republican ticket, and still come up short? Even Obama is attacking the bottom of the ticket,,,not a good sign.
And howabout that Obama lovin media , cleaning Baracks , while trying to smear, and slander a much more qualified candidate in Governor, Sarah Palin.
Isnt it poetic justice, that Obama now has to swallow his pride, and call Hillary in an attempt to stop the bleeding? You remember Hillary, right madd?
SEN. CLINTON: I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience he will bring to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.
Hillary certainly has no credibility in stumping for Obama, after that very direct, and damaging asessment.

Posted by: Badger | September 9, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

Steve J:
“And Granpa has used that experience to justify his like for ABBA’s “Dancing Queen” and his 9 houses. McCain has cheapened POW status.”
You might as a few of them how they feel about their POW status and McCain before you hit the send button. I know personally a few of them, and I know you don’t, or they’d have squared away your pitiful brain-housing group by now.
You keep talking about stuff of which you have absolutely no knowledge or even the smallest iota of comprehension. Forget “cheapened”, you utterly destroy the concept of informed dissent and discussion.

Posted by: Steeley | September 9, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

[I know personally a few of them, and I know you don't, or they'd have squared away your pitiful brain-housing group by now.]
A couple have come out and said McCain is unfit to be President, so why don’t you take your middle-age warrior delusions somewhere else?

Posted by: Steve J. | September 9, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

Gads Fool..
1) It’s Colonel, not general
Yes, had to re-edit as the spam filter caught something in the interview paste that it didn’t like..
2) Yes, they won, we lost. It’s time for you to grasp that.
I’ve known it for 35 years. You proud of that? I’m not.
3) Here’s what Bui Tin had to say:

…Then Johnson had rejected Westmoreland’s request for 200,000 more troops. We realized that America had made its maximum military commitment to the war.

Why do YOU think that Johnson rejected the request?
Keep reading that interview..
4) Yes, you are ignorant about the Vietnam War.
I see. I was there, you weren’t. I’m ignorant. You aren’t.
Um… read my previous post on this subject regarding your propensity to pontificate on topics you know nothing about.

Posted by: Steeley | September 9, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

[Why do YOU think that Johnson rejected the request?]
Because the American people were fed up with the war and McNamara had come to the conclusion that we could not win.

Posted by: Steve J. | September 9, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

“[I was there, you weren't. I'm ignorant. You aren't.]
Correct. I’m glad to see that you have taken the 1st of 12 steps to Vietnam Delusion Recovery.”
Already been through it, more than you can imagine.
Current objective is to keep from repeating the previous mistakes..
Like I said in my first post (which has apparently since “gone away”), regarding Linebacker II and my response to the statement that McCain’s release was due to the anti-war protests, the time to stop a war is before it starts.
Once you’re in it, you better win it.
We didn’t lose Nam, we quit. And the reason we quit is because of Ayers et.al.et.al.et.al.
And as I also pointed out, a lot more died in the 5 years after we left than the 12 years we were there.. 56,000 of my generation killed and not much good to show for it, and it didn’t have to be that way.. but we quit.

Posted by: Steeley | September 9, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

“Because the American people were fed up with the war and McNamara had come to the conclusion that we could not win.”
You have the cart in front of the horse..
We couldn’t win if we didn’t commit the necessary resources and change strategy (sound familiar?). You think McNamara asked for more troops because he was sure we couldn’t win? (I’m no fan of his but he’s not as stupid as either you think he was, you think I am, or your statement makes you look that you are.)
Then let’s come back to topic on Ayers and his contributions to “snatching defeat from the jaws of victory”

Posted by: Steeley | September 10, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

“A couple have come out and said McCain is unfit to be President, so why don’t you take your middle-age warrior delusions somewhere else?”
Interesting how you change the subject..
A couple fellow POWs opinions regarding McCain’s fitness for presidency has nothing to do with my challenge to your ignorant statement “McCain has cheapened POW status.” about querying actual POWs about what they think about your opinion.
And “a couple” is not a real significant percentage of the about 725 POWs. I know a couple personally (which is two more than you), and their opinions don’t follow yours or those “other couple” you refer to, so at best your point about McCain’s fitnes is a wash, but in reality by shear numbers it’s crushed.
But POW doesn’t qualify anyone for president. That wasn’t the issue. I’m left to conclude you changed the subject because you couldn’t defend your statement.

Posted by: Steeley | September 10, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am

[You think McNamara asked for more troops because he was sure we couldn't win? ]
McNamara didn’t ask for more troops, Westmoreland did.

Posted by: Steve J. | September 10, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

["McCain has cheapened POW status." ]
McCain’s POW Defense: Devaluing Our Service and His Own
BY Lt. General Robert G. Gard Jr. (USA, Ret.)
We obviously honor and respect McCain’s service and the five-and-a-half years of horror that he went through at the hands of the North Vietnamese; but it’s not an excuse for everything. He has already used it to explain away his infidelities in his first marriage. He’s used it to defend his healthcare plan. He just the other day used it to deflect accusations of having skirted the rules of the Saddleback forum.
It’s time for the Senator to stop cheapening the war experiences of thousands of vets and his fellow POWs, and his own as well, by stretching the boundaries of logic to make his POW status a wild-card rebuttal to all accusations or an answer to all difficult questions.

Posted by: Steve J. | September 10, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Same old Bill Ayers. Lipstick on a pig…
ABC, why in the world are you guys so interested in Sarah Palins PTA meetings, but you refuse to look into Obama’s ties with Ayers?
WE ARE WATCHING YOU GUYS
Man, Obama has had a bad day. He’s finally being exposed as the fraud and phony that he is – and not exactly friendly to women.

Posted by: Terry | September 10, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Steve J,
It does not help your candidate Obama when you spread lies about his opponent…
You are really stretching things here.
“I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.”
Margaret Thatcher

Posted by: Leisa | September 10, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am

Man, this POW 527 is going to backfire big time.
John Kerry got called out by Swiftboats for exaggerating and outright lying about the time prior to his attention-whoring in DC about war crimes of US troops.
McCain has a few partisans who also were POWs who aren’t at all contradicting his story, but just saying that POWs aren’t good enough.
For four years, left-wing nuts have complained about Swiftboats, but now that they have their own rank amateurs, they think it’s OK.
You guys are a hoot. I can’t wait for the ads, the fall-out is going to be hilarious – I expect about a 2% boost for McCain.

Posted by: Terry | September 10, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Only 15% of Americans consider themselves to be VERY LIBERAL. Obama, Biden, Pelosi and Reid are all VERY LIBERAL.
Most Democrats are well-meaning moderates and they vote Democrat mostly due to social reasons (such as abortion).
But of that 15% that are VERY LIBERAL, at least half are the whakc fringe like DailyKOS and Ayers here.
Do we really want to give unchecked power to the whack fringe left by putting VERY LIBERAL politicians in chanrge of every branch of government?
Do we really?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell | September 10, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am

“Nobody was hurt” by the Weathermen..?
A Brinks truck security guard in Nyack, NY was killed by the Weathermen.
One man was killed and another injured in a March 1970 bombing in the Lower East Side attributed to the Weathermen.
And 3 members of the Weather Underground themselves were killed on West 11th Street in Manhattan on March 9, 1970 when the bomb they were building prematurely exploded. They intended to bomb an Officer’s Dance at Ft. Dix, NJ. Dustin Hoffman’s townhouse was damaged beyond repair in that explosion.

Posted by: Jason | September 10, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am

Ayers statement is full of lies and half truths. People should do their own research. Wikipedia is a good place to start. There you will learn about Days of Rage, Weatherman’s declaration of war against the U.S. Government, their intent to bomb an NCO dance at Ft. Dix and participation in a 1981 Brinks Bank Robbery. Wikipedia leaves out a bunch but gives you a flavor of what these terrorists were all about.
Obama is also connected to these people through Howard Gutman who was working on behalf of Susan Rosenburg when she got pardoned by Bill Clinton. She was involved in the Brinks Bank Robbery that ended in 2 deaths. The purpose of the robbery was to gain resources for more terrorist activity. She was apprehended 740 pounds of dynamite and weapons in New Jersey. Gutman is an Obama Campaign National Finance Committee Member.
These are bad people who look back nostalgically on bombing Government buildings the way most people look back at college keg parties. It is entirely proper that Obama’s ties to these people are questioned, and to question why so many have been given good jobs at universities, all of which get direct and indirect Federal subsidies.

Posted by: athomedad | September 10, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am

Whoops — correction — the 1981 Brinks Bank Robber resulted in 3 deaths. A security guard and two police officers.

Posted by: athomedad | September 10, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am

Terrym
I just keep hoping that Pat Robertson comes out with a rant about how God will punish us if Sarah isn’t elected.
You seem to think that the left owns all of the wing nuts. I’d say the last eight years are proof otherwise.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 10, 2008, 5:46 am 5:46 am

Urban Machine Slops the Lead; Not Even Biden Can Sling the Bacon

Blue Ribbon for Obama? ‘Bam’s Lipstick BungleIf John McCain can win this election race with a 50-pound ball called ‘George W. Bush’ wrapped around one ankle and a 50-pound ball called ‘The U.S. Economy’ wrapped around the other, then he

Posted by: Liberty Peak Lodge | September 10, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

Who believes this one? Obama called him and told him to tonedown his message, that’s all. It’s just another Obama manipulation.

Posted by: Barbara | September 10, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

Note to the Obamachine and the Chicago gang:
The cartoon did not help. At all.
Ayers is rewriting his story, just like Obama is fabricating his.
Question:
What is the shortest book in history?
Answer:
“The Accomplishments of Barak Hussein Obama”

Posted by: hunter | September 10, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

There are some issues with Obama, most of which I will not get into. The two most stupid thngs that Obama has ever done: a) he is now personally attacking Palin. b) he chose Biden for his VP, who is even MORE Liberal than he is. All in all, this “cartoon” doesn’t help the half-white, half-black man.

Posted by: Jack | September 10, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Hah! When will the average American wake up and look at this. I have been researching this for years. If Ayers had done this crap under an Obama administration I am sure he would be locked up tight!

Posted by: Michael Schrengohst | September 10, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am

There is one good thing abut this electon cycle, it has got more people involved in their country’s furture. The bad thing is how our media is tilting the information to acheive an end they desire. We hear things that have no bearing on what is happening but cannot get suitable answers to many important questions. We have heard more questions and innuendos about Palin in a short time and have got any answers than have been asked of Obama in 19 months. Can anyone explain this?

Posted by: 1post3 | September 10, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am

OK, so why was Ayers standing on the flag for his magazine picture? Was that to show his love for the country?

Posted by: Russ | September 10, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

For some reason the Mainstream Media has been late in looking into the background of Sen Obama. But the New Media has been digging and looking into his shady associations for a long time. His associations with terrorists:
It is good that the MSM is catching up — hopefully this will end Obama’s presidential aspirations.

Posted by: David Hinz | September 10, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Someone needs to ask Mr. Ayers about that planned bombing of the NCO dance at Ft.Dix. What would his reflections be, if the bomb had killed young American men and women?
At that time, millions of young American draftees were serving in the armed forces. Young women were invited to attend dances on base. Those who did were much respected and appreciated by the draftees.
Mr. Ayer’s attempted terrorism against these young people is outside the spectrum of normal American politics.
A Ft.—- draftee.

Posted by: rbenjamin | September 10, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

A vile, unrepentant terrorist bomber and an advisor to the democrat candidate. How’s that for a “change”?

Posted by: SteveC | September 10, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Once a Chicago Democrat, alaways a Chicago Democrat.
Once a Chicago terrorist, always a Chicago terrorist.

Posted by: Just Call Me Donna Reed | September 10, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

There is no such thing as a “safe” explosion. If people are not hurt in that type of explosion it is simply luck. And even if you do manage to avoid injuring someone in the explosion – you put the clean-up crews in danger when they have to work in the areas. Ayers is the type of scum that used to spit and harass our soldiers after they returned from War. I have NO RESPECT for the man or anyone that attaches themselves to this type of person.

Posted by: thescoundrel | September 10, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

This “piece of…work” [Ayers] and his cronies are no different then Timothy McViegh and those that schemed with him except on one point, McViegh and company were brought to justice while these “Weather Underground” criminals got off practically “Scott free”. This is a travesty that will probably never be remedied. I wonder what tune Ayers would sing if someone put a bomb on his doorstep? But of course good and decent people won’t stoop to that kind of low, unlike Ayers and associates not to mention McViegh, who’s simply another of Ayers ilk. I believe they’ll all burn eventually for what they’ve done, if not in this existence then in the next.

Posted by: glitchus | September 10, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Oh. It’s okay to bomb stuff if you call ahead?
Hmmm. I wonder if Ayers is listed?
What a loser. (I know that’s redundant with Obama supporters.)
And don’t forget Kennedy started Vietnam. Nixon ended it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 10, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

i dont know where all of the “historians” and “intellectials” are in this country. the vietnam war was started under kennedy, promoted by johnson, to aide a corrupt government under the guise of stopping communism. the war literally went around hugh rubber plantations that were not touched by EITHER side. the owners of those plantations were in the rockerfeller and kennedy families. this is factual and you can actually look it up in history books. if you care to find the truth. the men and women who died over there deserve our respect and for us to find out the truth that the liberal media has been hiding all these years “protecting” the above families.

Posted by: jim | September 11, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am

Simple answer… B.S.
Why I can’t vote for Obama… he’s a socialist.
I started life as a Pvt in the USMC. 20 years later and so many nights going to school I can’t count, I retired with a masters degree and was a self-taught computer programmer. I’ve spent the last 20 years programming and now earn about $130K/year. That’s not Bill Gates but it’s what I’ve spent a lifetime building. I’m 61.
Obama says I make too much and wants to give some of what I earn to a 21 year-old waitress working for minimum wage and tips. Excuse me, but this waitress has 40 years to do exactly the same point that I am today. She probably doesn’t expect or want my retirement. But that doesn’t stop the socialists from wanting to play Robin Hood.
Country First!

Posted by: DougH | September 11, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am

William Ayers is a liar and leader of a violent group of Socialists and Obama started his political career in this guys house!! Oh but Barry didn’t know about his background. Yeah, sure

Posted by: Slinging the bull | September 11, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

Didn’t hurt anyone huh? Tell that to you girfriend and the two other friends that blew themselves up making one of your bombs. A bomb they wanted to use to kill American sldiers attending a dance. And tell that to the Police Officers that your minions killed when they bombed a Police Station. Your nothing but a two bit Terrorist ayers. You and your wife both should have been sent to the electric chair decades ago.

Posted by: jrh9861 | September 11, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Ayres talks as if the Vietnam war was just American aggressors attacking an innocent country. Communists in that country murdered millions of innocent people to achieve power from 1946 until 1972. He never mentions that. He says that the Vietnam war was “immoral”. How about Communism itself, about as immoral a system of totalitarianism as one can get. It has been the scourge of the 20th century. Ayres is an unrepentant communist, just like Jane Fonda

Posted by: wilijoe | September 11, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Why isn’t Jake Tapper letting readers know that people WERE killed as a result of Ayers’ bombs? Why does that need to be pointed out by ordinary citizens?

Posted by: artgrrl | September 11, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Nice try, but not buying it. By the way, Bill, it was a democrat president, Lyndon Johnson, who kept the Viet Nam war going when we could have won it quickly and ended it before more lives were lost.

Posted by: Louise | September 11, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

It was Democrat Kennedy (who was paranoid of communist)who stepped up troops in Vietnam to the point of no return then Democrat Lyndon Johnson declared war. It was a republican that got us out!
All the anti-war people turned their backs to the millions of veitnamese who were slaughtered after we withdrew our troops. Funny how they call our troops murderers and defend the real murderers!

Posted by: Adelyn | September 11, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Obama was 8 when Charles Manson committed the murders – does that mean it’s okay for Hussien Obama to be friends with Charles too?
Ayers is no better than Osama bin Laden! If Obama can be friends with Ayers then what will happen if Obama gets into the white house? Will he become friends with Osama Bin laden as say “Who cares, I was only 40 when the WTC was hit”

Posted by: adelyn | September 11, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Ayers is a liar and a commie tool. He opposes the rule of law unless he’s the one enforcing his type of law.

Posted by: Ken | September 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Per Wikipedia – “William Charles “Bill” Ayers (born 1944) is Distinguished Professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago.”
If this whack-job is so dang distinguished and smart why is it that he can’t even spell correctly?!? His spelling of “instillations” is likely reflective of his great attention to detail. Hopefully, he had the right phone numbers when he was calling to inform people before he bombed them!
LOSERs associate with LOSERs

Posted by: Bob Thompson | September 11, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

So Bomber Bill doesn’t think “violence is necessarily the answer,” huh?
Yeah, and Barrack Obama didn’t mean that Sarah Palin was necessarily a pig, either.

Posted by: trentk269 | September 11, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Sorry Bill. I was present in the 70s. I believe you meant you didn’t bomb enough. I was a MP in the US Army at the time and had to respond to some of your murderous threats. Whether a bomb was placed or not your created fear and panic in innocent people. You were a terrorist. I hope you’re still sending thank you cards to Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, a coward and terrorist’s best friends. They gave out too many pardons to you guys.

Posted by: Jim | September 11, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Did Bush call the residents of Baghdad before he dropped the bunker buster?
If this is all the Right has got, bring it on.

Posted by: Randy | September 11, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

LIAR!!!
If that’s Ayers meant by “we didn’t do enough”, he would have said so long ago – not now, when Obama is running for President.

Posted by: Mrs. P | September 11, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

The Vietnam War might have been hopeless, but it was never “immoral”. The whole idea was to FIGHT COMMUNISM!
And YES, the Ayers terrorist acts DID KILL PEOPEL! Just a quick Google Search proves that. Even Wikipedia agress!
Bill Ayers is quite obiously a liar!!!

Posted by: Mrs. P | September 11, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

It is despicably ironic that Ayers makes this statement only a couple days before the 7th year after 9/11!

Posted by: Mrs. P | September 11, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Let’s take a look at some OTHER connections?
McCain/Big Oil
McCain/Bush-Cheney (who have killed a million innocent Iraqis and displaced millions more)
Anyone in our government who had a meeting with Sadaam Hussein should be considered a terrorist
Please, people. It’s not like Ayers was hiding out in a basement somewhere when Obama met him. He’s a distinguished professor who DECIDED to work in Early Childhood Education – now, if he were working for Wall Street, we might have something to talk about.

Posted by: steve | September 24, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

For an academic who specializes in education, it’s a bit pathetic he can’t spell “installation” correctly. (ABCNews generously corrected the spelling for him in the text below the “comic”.)

Posted by: Matt | October 4, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

So is this how Obama plans to get things done? Threaten and intimidate? This is not what America needs. I can see it now that if there is another terrorist attach Obama imposes martial law and strips our civil liberties mouthing “for the greater good”. We should never become a socialist police state. Americans will come to the defense of our home turf; not government strongmen. We are the eyes, ears, and hands of our law enforcement and will let legal process fulfill its duty as long as it is capable and answers to the American people. We never surrender our liberty and safety this philosophy of fear and intimidation. It has a stronghold in the mid-east but should never take hold here.

Posted by: MBell_TX | October 4, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

This guy should still be in jail.

Posted by: Gargoyle | October 4, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Let’s see you reckless liberal media mongels stop Gov. Palin now!! You go girl…go!

Posted by: Mr. Republican | October 4, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Obama is quoted as saying, “If the McCain campaign uses ‘knives’, then we’ll use guns”. I ask you readers….”Just how ghetto is that comment?”

Posted by: Mr. Republican | October 4, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Mrs. P: “It is despicably ironic that Ayers makes this statement only a couple days before the 7th year after 9/11!”
Don’t forget Obama’s Reverend Wright in his own words: “America deserves 9/11 attack! God d____ America!” OBAMA SAVORED HIS REVEREND”S WORDS, EEVERY ONE OF THEM.

Posted by: ablanche08 | October 4, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

This woman has little room to speak given her long association, and the association of her husband, with members of the AIP, who openly advocate the secession of Alaska from the United States. Also, the leader of this organization stated, and I quote: “the fires of hell are glaciers compared to my hatred for the United States of America.” This sounds worse than anything Rev. Wright ever said about the United States. Of course, a big difference is that, while Sen. Obama has publicly condemned Rev. Wright for his hateful contents, Sarah Palin has never so much as criticized the leader of the AIP for his expressed hatred of our country. The more one gets to know this woman and her associates, the more one realizes what a danger she presents to the security of our nation and the freedom of its citizens. Johnny McSame is desperate and will say anything over the next month in an effort to derail the inevitable election of Sen. Barack Obama to be President of the United States. WE CAN STOP HIM!!! Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Posted by: caliguy55 | October 4, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

I was beginning to feel sorry for Sarah Palin’s naked ignorance as revealed in recent interviews. But she’s just a typical name calling politician, hungry for power, desperate to win and unwilling to struggle for any meaningful or new solutions to the huge problems facing the US and the world. I am looking forward to watching her and McCain go down in defeat.

Posted by: Joel Miller | October 4, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Obama is a traitor.

Posted by: Jane | October 4, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Mr Bull Obama was against the war before he fully funded it.
Mr Bull Obama voted to continue the spying on Americans.
Can’t stand bull artists.

Posted by: hhkeller | October 4, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

Well, it seems that Ayers may be regretting a few things now.

Posted by: mk | October 4, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Ayers has NOTHING to do with Obama!
And ther is nothing that the LYING Palin can say that will make it so.
She should stop LYING about Barack and someone should start telling the truth about HER!
Barack is NOT a traitor – he is a TRUE AMERICAN hero. Ayers, however, refuses to admit he was wrong and to me that makes him a fool.

Posted by: Independant American Woman | October 4, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

POLLING ORGANIZATION = DATE – LEADER BY
- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - -
Gallup Tracking = = = = = = = 10/03 – Obama/Biden +8
Rasmussen Tracking = = = = 10/03 – Obama/Biden +6
Hotline/FD Tracking = = = = =10/03 – Obama/Biden +7
GW/Battleground Tracking = =10/02 – Obama/Biden +3
Marist = = = = = = = = = = = = 09/30 – Obama/Biden +5
CBS News = = = = = = = = = 09/30 – Obama/Biden +9
Associated Press/GfK = = = 09/30 – Obama/Biden +7
ABC News/Wash Post = = = 09/29 – Obama/Biden +4
Pew Research = = = = = = = 09/29 – Obama/Biden +6
Ipsos/McClatchy = = = = = = 09/29 – Obama/Biden +3
Time = = = = = = = = = == = 09/29 – Obama/Biden +7
I guess when the polls show you (McSame) are down by 8-points and growing with less than a month to go, you go into your “Skunk Mode” and start spitting out garbage and vomit. This is what the “McSame/Joe-SixPack” liars are resorting to. They have lost on the issues so they go with the kitchen sink.
If Sarah had any creditability, I guess I would listen to this cr@p. But seeing that Sarah’s husband Todd (“First Dude”) once belong to an Alaskan separatist organization that was stock piling weapons in preparation to over throw the United States and secede from the 50-State Union, I find it extremely difficult to even listen to this idiot.

Posted by: Perusing-Through | October 4, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Dems know how to pick em.

Posted by: David | October 4, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Ridiculous crawfishing and furious back pedaling and spinning for Obama by Ayers. His controversial statement was a direct reply to the question did he have regrets about participating in acts of terrorism. That’s when he said, and I paraphrase –No, we didn’t do enough.

Posted by: Karen Otravez | October 4, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Really? you people give a squat about Alaska?
you really want to embrace it as an equal among all States?
All we’ve heard for the past month is what a backward cesspool breading ground it is that Palin needed to be banished back to.
Is the only reason you don’t want Alaska to secede is that you’ll need your own “Siberian Gulag” once the the Great Hope takes power?

Posted by: lib-hypo | October 4, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

A total pass for Obama! Obama is either an idiot or a liar. This man’s spiritual advisor and community oganizer mentor have serious radical views and made no secret of their positions. Obama should have had the ability to descern that over the last 20 years. If he cannot pick up on these issues, then what makes anyone think he could pick up on Putin’s, Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il, or Chavez? What information is he going to miss in his face to face meetings with them?

Posted by: ubu1991 | October 4, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

“Say it ain’t so Joe” Obama just got a love bite from the pit bull. Monday she will sink her teeth in. this is getting good. Pop corn please.

Posted by: jim | October 4, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

Yawn. Why are we discussing Ayers? I don’t care about him.
What I do care about is a 6% unemployment rate. I care about high gas prices. I care about home foreclosures. I care that we as a country are struggling to get back on track due to a ruined economy thanks to Bush-McCain policies. THAT is worth discussing. THAT is why McCain-Palin will lose this election because they don’t care about the things that matter to most Americans.

Posted by: Melissa | October 4, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Sarah the “pitbull” is all bark and no bite. Let her radical Alaska Independenace Party husband stay in Alaska and keep on fighting to secede from the union. Call them out for what they are. A couple of unpatriotic, dangerous idiots who are trying to sucker Americans for support. Apparently they’ve deceived a few of the ignorant.
Country first??? Try Alaska first, Alaska always. Wake up, America!

Posted by: Dave | October 4, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Really? you people give a squat about Alaska?
you really want to embrace it as an equal among all States?
All we’ve heard for the past month is what a backward cesspool breading ground it is that Palin needed to be banished back to.
Is the only reason you don’t want Alaska to secede is that you’ll need your own “Siberian Gulag” once the the Great Hope takes power?

Posted by: moose shooter | October 4, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

McCain is scum of the earth. I think we would have been better off had he decided to off himself in that Hanoi jail cell like the coward he really is.

Posted by: Mark | October 4, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Obama is scum

Posted by: Rob | October 4, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm

The efforts of the Press, and other invisible anti-US forces to protect Obama and make him (by hook or crook) the President, are plain SCARY!!
Obama has no experience, he talks non-sense and still people want him as their President (having another DUMB like Bush as President) – call it US’s time of GLORY is over.

Posted by: JKan | October 4, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Look, Obama and his\ wife are Socialists who hate America because they hate what America stands for. Grow up people…Obama will deepen all racial tensions, he will ruin the country and put us into a socialist spin we will not be able to recover from.

Posted by: Arilian Frazzini | October 5, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

this is nothing compared to obamas next new problem the facts on freddie and fannie are coming to roost fox has a new special i see a republican congress and president coming the truth is coming out

Posted by: david reyes | October 5, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

Read/interpret news website comment sections with caution…some of these people are
astroturfing” (see Wikipedia definition below).
Astroturfing in American English is a neologism for formal public relations campaigns in politics and advertising which seek to create the impression of being spontaneous “grassroots” behavior, hence the reference to the artificial grass, AstroTurf.
The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt (“outreach”, “awareness”, etc.) and covert (disinformation) means. Astroturfing may be undertaken by an individual pushing a personal agenda or highly organized professional groups with financial backing from large corporations, non-profits, or activist organizations. Very often the efforts are conducted by political consultants who also specialize in opposition research.

Posted by: D. | October 5, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am

Thank you for helping to call Obama ans Ayres out. Now could you please do something about ABC News misinformation that “nobody was killed,” by WUO. Three of their own members died in a bomb blast, an armor car guard and two NJ Troopers died during a botched robbery, and a SF police sergeant died at the hand of a Weatherman.

Posted by: Tom Darby | October 5, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

Many people in this country are suffering from ignorance. You check very well you find out that it is the illiterates in this country that are talking about Ayers.

Posted by: Cole | October 5, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am

“There you go again, looking into the past.” (quote from Palin in VP debate) Biden was chided for looking into the past rather than the future in the debate. Seems McCain/Palin can’t follow their own words. Ayers is old, old news. Living during the time that WUO was active, I didn’t like their methods but I understood their reasoning. Still, the Ayers Obama has known as an aquantance, not a friend, is not that same radical. People do change as they age. There was also the Government propoganda to make the group seem even worse. Again, Obama sees the good in all people and wants to bring us all together. It’s time to stop looking at what divides us and what we have in common. That’s what Obama is about.

Posted by: Dragon | October 5, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

This stuff is really frightening. Oh, I’m not talking about Ayers, or even, to be balanced, McCain’s scandalous record on the S&L debacle.
No, what I find most worrying is the level of debate (so low as to be almost as underground as Ayres’ Weather), the uninformed, childish and partisan offerings from uninformed, partisan and childish posters (with apologies to the handful of level-headed responses) and the self-serving moral rectitude of a handful of idiots urging us to google more crap so as to regurgitate even less worthy material. I had a felling this was going to be bad reading the first post on Sep 9: Woody, do try to join up words that end up making a sentence. And if you can’t, have the decency not to end your jibberish with five exclamation marks. It kind of sets the tone.
Thank you to the minority who posted sensible comments from either side. To the others: you’ll get what you deserve in this electoral race, which is…not very much.

Posted by: Frightened | October 6, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

why do we care about ayers at this point in time ?? America needs to start looking to move forward and the only way we will move forward is to elect Obama for president, ayers clearly did what he did because of his beliefs in communism and his beliefs that the Vietnam war was wrong , his actions were bad. Palin and McCain need to start telling us more about how they will push to country forward and less of lies. They think we(Americans) are stupid to vote for them because they say Obama is a terrorist???, well they thought wrong because he clearly is not and he has openly said that the actions of ayers and his group was wrong.

Posted by: Taiwo | October 6, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Obama has denounced this guy a long time ago. This is all McCain’s GOT?
Arnold R. Weber is a Republican that sat on the SAME board of directors and a BIG contributor to the McCain campaign! People, you are being LIED TO.
People believe what they want to believe. Somone ASK John McCain why he accepts dirty campaign money from people that associate with BILL AYERS. If he finds the man so dispicable, why is he taking his blood money? Ask the other Republicans that hang with Ayers too because there are several. Ayers is the white Willie Horton of 2008.
Better yet, ask RICK DAVIS these questions. He is the lobbyist that is RUNNING the McCain smear machine.

Posted by: underdog | October 7, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am

It simply amazes me that so many people think it’s nothing to be gumbahs with a MAD BOMBER who killed people.
Of course Democrats have a history of being soft on MAD BOMBERS. We need look no further than Al Gore to find Brent Kimberlin (he tossed a stick of dynamite in a grade school playground).
These guys all need to check in for some serious psychiatric treatment.

Posted by: Muawiyah | October 7, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

First Obama claims that over a TWENTY YEAR period, he never heard a single anti-American racist sermon from Jeremiah Wright … never noticed the anti-American racist literature in the church’s lobby … never agreed to the ‘Black Values System’ that all the church members swore to … never subscribed to the Marxist ‘Black Separation Theology’ espoused on the church’s website … never knew anti-American racist Louis Farrakhan, who the church awarded a life time achievement award to … and, never knew unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, when Obama launched his campaign from Ayer’s living room, sat on a board together, and whose wives worked at the same law firm
. Obama also worked with Acorn, who has been caught in massive voter fraud, in behalf of Obama. Obama obviously shares an anti-American racist, and criminal philosophy with some very unsavory people, continues to lie about it, and does not have the character, or integrity to be President of the United States of America !!!

Posted by: Howard | October 9, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

this is exactly why McCain is loosing, You all sound like pit bulls and look what happens to them! society looks at them as dangerous! and what happens, they get put to sleep!!!! Sad!! Quit wasting time on garbage all you perfect people and stick to the issues that really count! Besides you are all naive if you put all you’re faith and trust in either of them!! Obama for President!!!!!!!!

Posted by: maria | October 9, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Obama knowing Ayers has everything to do with this election – he is a puppet for someone else and that my friends is the Socialist Party. He was learning from them and it is fact that the group in Illinois now in view Obama signed up to. It shows character and what the guy will do when in office.
He will ask his new found friends for advise and Ayers is now in hiding, but if Obama wins will come out and spew Socialistic ideas for America. It will not take guns and act of war on the United States just laws and do away with the Constitution that all Americans live by.
Mark my words, Obama is dangerous for this country and everyone living here. You may not believe what is going on, but those from other countries who are now American citizens know the type of government we will have and they are worried and frighten and have every right to be for they lived it in the countries they left. So be afraid and very afraid for your freedoms will not exist in a Socialistic or Communistic society.
And when I’m right – I’ll be laughing at your ignorance.

Posted by: CJ | October 10, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

And another thing – this economy issue started with Clinton era, and ended with Pelosi, Frank, and Dodd, screwing America and their liberal hooligans in office. They wanted this just to happen just before the election, they are deceitful, nasty and should be fired for creating havoc on society.
The media is part of this too.

Posted by: CJ | October 10, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

And all you sooo intelligent Repubs–you are the same people who told us Bush was a great President–so much for your credibility.

Posted by: David | October 10, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Bill Ayers is a man who on 9/11 said the terrorists didn’t do enough to this country. Obama sat in the same livingroom with him and talked to him and not once did he know – everyone knows about Bill Ayers.
And to the media ABC, NBC, CBS and others is the KGB following you around so that you don’t say any thing bad about Obama since the Hamas, Bin Laden, Putin in Russia, Chevez in Mexico, and Castro and Castro’s brother want Obama here. All Socialistic and Communistic.
Bill Ayers is a Socialistic bomber.
We should be frighten of the fact that the media also, for they are working for a socialistic cause by not reporting the facts.
And if Obama does get in and you Americans on here think your freedoms will not be taken away. Read up on people’s blogs who came from Cuba however they could to America for our freedoms and see what it is like living in Socialistic Cuba. Go to those countries and see what it is like and why people from other countries come here for their health care and the real reason why they go back.
Obama like I said is a puppet for someone else and if he should get in office by Acorn who 4,000 died people in Texas were electing Obama, and my vote will not count, for it is stacked and the Liberals made sure we Americans are paying for them in the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bill for it is part of their pork. YOu will see immediately your life change from the better to worse.
I’ve read alot of books about Communism and Socialism and heard what the people living in those countries have said and you will not like it. For your hip-hop will be gone, your voice will not be heard or else you will be imprisoned, and the internet will be spied upon by the KGB or some socialistic group that will make sure your voice is squashed on here. The internet will no longer be a public place. You can bet your life on that one. The only people on here will be paying customers, and that will be the end of people being able to voice their opinion and when out in public if you march you will be herded like in China or killed. Believe it or not.
Have fun with Obama, I’ve learned my lessons on it from my great great grandparents on how Socialism, Nazism, Communism works and I will know what to do to survived and persevere. Do you?
Bill Ayers will come out of hiding and help Obama and Socialism will be here within afew months of his Presidency.
And you wonder why our government is getting shots ready for a suitcase bomb, that was on the internet this morning.

Posted by: CJ | October 11, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am

No the money quote in this whole affair is:
“Guilty as sin, free as a bird, it’s a great country”
Note also Bill’s star on his t-shirt. now he wouldn’t be doing a little dog whistle signalling here, would he?

Posted by: Pamela Grim | October 11, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Would you be all that surprised to learn that Bill Ayers has connections to al Qaida? He had them with the brutal North Vietnam regime, he was on their side, the evil side – so wouldn’t it make sense for him to want to effect the same outcome for our brave soldiers in Iraq the way he did for them in Vietnam? Bill Ayers is an ENEMY to my country and Obama’s close friendship to him makes Obama either a complete fool or just another thug enemy – take your pick.

Posted by: Mike M | October 11, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

I thought this was a hit piece from one of Ayer’s adversaries. Now I find that he actually put this tripe up on his own site?
Whatever message he was trying to send has been received loud and clear. No wonder Obama wants to disown the dude!

Posted by: unclesmrgol | October 15, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

It is rather amazing that the bombings back in the 1970′s were telegraphed and that because of the warnings that no one was killed… Now what about the “SHOCK AND AWE” that formed the beginning of the Iraq WAR?? How many innocent people do you think were killed???? And for what purpose???Was it for OIL??? and the 70′s actions were to stop the VIETMAM POLICE ACTION where innocent people and US FORCES were being killed for no reason!!!!!
Could someone answer that question for me???
Thanks SKIP

Posted by: Daryl Houle | October 18, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

CJ
We already have socialism–just isn’t benefiting the masses. I understand people being upset over Ayers. He’s a narcissistic pycho who should just keep quiet. What I can’t understand is people not being upset over the bailout, the policies that have allowed corporations and banks to steal trillions of dollars from the American taxpayer and buying the notion that low taxes help anyone but the very wealthy. The only thing I can figure out is that the people screaming about “socialism” don’t actually know what the term means (fyi–it is not a synonym for communism, as a basic West Civ course should have taught you). Our taxes go to support private industries when they get into trouble making it possible for the CEOs to ‘earn’ 100s of times what the average employee makes. At the same time we privatize their profit, we socialize their losses–making each of us as taxpayers responsible for covering the loss while we reap no benefit from the profit. Both parties are complicit in this system and it is getting worse. Bush has been the biggest offender of all, so if you wish to be alarmist, take a look at what your guy did for the past eight years (arguably closer to soviet-style communism than socialism with the secrecy and insistence on centralized power and party loyalty over loyalty to country) before you start making dire predictions about a presidency that hasn’t even started yet.

Posted by: Michele | November 14, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Warnings were phoned in? So that is why soldiers almost died on at least one occasion because of the result of one of his bombings. It is absolutely pathetic, and hilarious, that this idiot thinks it is no big deal to bomb various building simply because he got lucky and no one was killed. Furthermore, at least one person was in fact killed making a bomb. Good riddance.

Posted by: Obama is Carter | November 5, 2010, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Carter’s defence was on fire.. there was a moment where he rushed Cooper to make him think he was drawn then as Cooper past Carter hit the next man.. so hard to pull off and such a risk if Cooper had dummied. Report
Pay that: 3

Posted by: Alfred Andries | December 2, 2011, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

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