In the Senate, Obama Yaks, McCain Is Divorced From Reality

Obama has lost his game…
No more hope and change, rather he is responding and attacking…
He is easily rattled… not good in a president.

Obama/Biden Two typical Washington cronies.
They voted for the Bridge To Nowhere and even voted against diverting some of the funds to Katrina relief.
The pro-Obama won’t report this.

Very different. McCain admitted to
“being divorced from the day-to-day challenges people have”. Sen. Seven Homes McCain says point-blank he’s out-of-touch with the hardships presently borne by average Americans. I would never vote for anyone who told me he has no connection to the daily problems I face. Outrageous!! What’s he going to change if he doesn’t even understand what average folk are facing!!

After McCain ran an ad saying that Obama wants to teach sex education to kindergarteners before they learn to read, what Obama has said today is really not that bad.
So far there isn’t anything worse than the ad that McCain has run against Obama on teaching sex education to 5 year olds.

Yea it is the same thing, same meaning.

ETHICAL QUESTIONS: Bloomberg: “Palin’s office approved a state job for a friend and campaign aide with whom she shared a land investment, financial records and interviews over the past two weeks show. She hired a former lobbyist for a pipeline company to help oversee a multibillion-dollar deal with that same company. She named a police chief accused of harassment to head the state police. And she sent campaign e-mails on her city hall account while serving as mayor of Wasilla — conduct for which she later turned in an oil commissioner on ethics charges.
“These incidents raise ‘some serious questions about her judgment and serious questions about her standards of ethics in public service,’’ said James Thurber, director of American University’s Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies in Washington. Suggesting a real estate investment partner for a job ‘may be acceptable in Alaska; it would not be acceptable in Washington, D.C., a place whose norms she wants to

Wow!
Obama is like a child in kindergarten. Who needs a leader like him. I will take a pass this election.

Yes Jack, but as community organiser during 3 years, Obama know exactly what the reality of the day to day people means. So do Palin and Biden who takes everyday the train to go back at home. Mc Cain was in the military like his father. He were always disconnected. This is not an insult because he honored the nation, but he doesn’t have the day to day roots that Barack, Sarah and Joe have.

“Obama passed the bill on sex eduction in IL senate”
The bill did not pass. He was not the sponsor.
Why do right wingers lie ALL THE TIME?

Let’s see arrogance, cronyism, secrecy and abuse of power.
Where have we seen that before?

McCain – best days are behind him.
McCain – is out-of-touch with reality.

I think Obama is wrong, McCain is right on this.
Obama tries all the way to make up his experience and belittle Palin’s experience.
I even doubt he was community organizer. If he was community organizer, then he should not have belittled small town mayor.
He doesn’t represent community organizer.

Palin’s SURGE is just Racist American’s excuse to justify openly their true internal bigotry… We know McCane and Palin is full of BS, but the entrenched racial bigotry prevents many from entertaining a black man in the White House… The pundits and talking heads are idiots… If we are truly objective we would see this… It is soo sad the hypocrisy in this political season… Anyone with content of character and fairness can see what the republicans are doing… plain and simply.. The are BANKING on THE RACIST Vote of America… simple and to the point… and we all know that’s the truth…
POINTS TO THINK ABOUT??
1) What if it was Obamas’ pregnant teenage daughter and lover on stage… WHAT would the Republican Attack machine say…
Answer: Obama’s presidential bid would be over
2) Palin’s Lies?
What if it was Obama saying the same things Palin is saying…
Answer: Obama’s presidential bid would be over
3) McCain Attack Add lies?
What if Obama used wolves, Bin Laden, outright lies about passing legislature to teach kindergarten kids about sex
Answer: Obama’s presidential bid would be over.
Obama is being held to a higher standard and test in this campaign, not only to stay true to his message but to keep a straight face when everyone in this Nation closes their eyes and minds to the Republican onslaught of lies, falsehoods, Rovian Swift Boating and frank bs… The republicans actually say Obama is disrespectfull… please… McCain was an honorable man, but his desire to prove that the end justify the means is sad… what does it profit a man to gain the world and loose his soul… McCane is slowly loosing his and disrespecting right thinkin Americans… we are all going to suffer because the uneducated and ill informed are going to determine the saddest future in this country since the depression because racism masked as ” Palin’s Surge” “Palin’s invigorating the base” is the order of the day… It is really sad… soo sad… and still many die for Weapons of Mass Destruction… can anyone remember that… In the end, we get what we deserve…

“Isotoner” was a lame joke, but it had to go into a blog title as an editorial characterization of the candidate.
Just because McCain glad-hands the press more than most politicians. Sheesh.

Cindy in nc says of Obama/Biden “They voted for the Bridge To Nowhere and even voted against diverting some of the funds to Katrina relief.”
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Cindy – facts seem to not be relevant to you.
McCain Voted Twice Against Establishing A Commission To Study The Response To Hurricane Katrina. [ 9/14/2005, 2/2/2006]
McCain Opposed Granting Financial Relief To Those Affected By Hurricane Katrina. [9/15/2005]
McCain Voted Against Five Months of Medicaid For Hurricane Katrina Victims. [11/3/2005]
McCain Voted Against Emergency Funding Bill, Including $28 Billion for Hurricane Relief. [5/4/2006]

paid bloggers of Obama
Can you find the answer?
Ryan C
Did Obama vote YES on Sex Education Bill?
Did Obama vote NO on Sex Education Bill?
Did Obama vote PRESENT on Sex Education Bill?
We know he voted YES.

golfgirlusa
a small town mayor is not ready to decide if we have to go to war with Russia.
ugh.
and please stop trying to compare Obama’s college and just after college activities with what is all of Palin’s executive experience minus the last 18 months.
and the last 18 months includes what her former deputy said showed “that he could not keep his conscience silent and had to tell people that she is in NO WAY qualified to be Vice President of the uNited States”
and that isn’t aguy who left on bad terms or any other spin.
a normal guy who saw what most of America saw last night
a woman who is in way over her head and being used as a trojan horse… by men who fight every pro woman policy.

Obama’s “Campaign of Personality” is un-
raveling because he’s really never done
ANYTHING! He’s toast. Sarah Palin is the
new “Iron Lady”.

Adam
yes Obama votes to fight pedophiles and to empower children to make them safer from sexual abuse…
while you try to fight that.
nice

phil
your iron lady is sinking…and when Iron sinks
it sinks fast and takes it’s passengers with it.

No. Obama was highlighting the fact that mayors have to get their hands dirty on a regular basis, while Senators spend a great deal of their time in debate. That doesn’t mean that a Senator is more ‘out of touch’, they just have different responsibilities to their constituents.

“Cindy in nc says of Obama/Biden “They voted for the Bridge To Nowhere and even voted against diverting some of the funds to Katrina relief.”
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In fact 82 Senators voted against the Bill, 4 for it. McCain? Once again he didn’t vote.

I always get a kick out of Obama when he tries to defend “community service” as a pathway to the Presidency.
Let’s be blunt and honest — Chicago style community organization has always been aligned with socialist or communist ideals. The Sol Lewinski crowd got its start in Chicago. As a lead attorney for Acorn during his community service tenure — he certainly participated in voter fraud and basic civil disobedience type stuff.
If he so proud of his community service (CS) organizing — why doesn’t the press interview some of his CS co-workers and find out what his duties were — I’m sure they’d give him glowing reviews.

Posted by: phil | Sep 12, 2008 2:32:21 PM
Love it! The Iron Lady. Excellent!
Obama’s spine is made of hot air and styrofoam.
McCain and Palin tell it like it is with straight talk and are made of American steel.
They won’t blink in a fight and will stand up for America!
Obama will cut and run.
Obama is running to try and help himself.
McCain-palin are running to help America.

McCain +4 in latest Ohio poll. Many Democrats in Ohio are leaping off the Obama sinking ship.

USVet name one change that mccain is promising.
and please please please don’t say earmarks
as it is is palin going to say Alaska gets no more earmarks …ugh
you know
alaska per capita earmarks – $515
Illinois per capita earmarks – $20
and the rest 0f the states are pretty similar
is she going to cut off “earmarks” tp that other bridge she is building that is twice as expensive as the Bridge to Nowhere”
this is a joke.
USVET ONE just one change to Bush’s economic policies that have us riding so high now.
and a little reminder Bush also campaigned on earmarks…and his father campaigned on taxes…”read my lips…”
Mccain is the same team same policies same tactics
no change no answers.

Obama is questioning McCain’s touch with reality and technology expertise. Here is comment of a true expert, not just a talking head such As Senator Obama.
” No, I don’t think so. I think in many ways Senator McCain is like millions of Americans who’ve had, you know, this wizardry of tech gadgetry come into their lives and is adopting to it, sometimes with anxiety, sometimes with enthusiasm. But I think he understands technology very well, having chaired the most powerful committee in Congress overseeing the evolution of communications systems. ”
This is the thoughts of Michael Powell, former FCC Chairman for 4 years, son of Colin Powell and technology advisor for the McCain Campaign. He made this comment on “All things Considered of NPR” when asked whether he thought McCain non use of email was a detrimant to his Presidency or showed him out of touch. I believe Mr. Powell’s views are ones that should be heeded over Senator Obama’s. Michael Powell has more experience in his little finger than Obama has in his whole body, especially concerning technology.

another strong women said lol
“All of you left wing nutcases are just so mad that your party put someone like Obama on the ticket. He is a joke, nothing more then a radical, big government, security nightmare for this Country. The true America will not ever let him get elected!”
I think the nightmare is the one we are in …you know the one that McCain has no new answers for …just the photocopy of what we have been doing to get us this nightmare.
this is a joke… McCain has no answers …no changes…period.
but you all expect thing will “change”

Paige
Have you heard ANALYSIS PARALYSIS
As a leader you make decision. It is YES or NO.
before you make decition you negotiate.
During the Debate you tell the sponsor that you will vote NO if you do not make changes. I lived in Chicago for 11 years and I know how dirty chicago politics is.

In eight years in the Illinois State legislature Obama sponsored 820 bills that became law. The Illinois Times labeled him as “Head of the Class” for his legislative abundance.

This was posted by “another strong women”:
All of you left wing nutcases are just so mad that your party put someone like Obama on the ticket. He is a joke, nothing more then a radical, big government, security nightmare for this Country. The true America will not ever let him get elected!
Could you please explain how and why you ‘women’ believe this? Be specific, no generalizations. And exactly who is the ‘true America’ you are referring to? White, right-wing Christians?

Obama is positive, powerful, exciting and dedicated. He will make a great president.

Wow David, so you agree with a Mccain advisor that their candidate understands technology. Way to go out on a limb there. You probably also agree with Palin who says she has foreign policy experience because she can see Russia from her state. You can put lipstick on a pig, but…..

In watching the interview of Governor Sarah Palin, conducted by Charles Gibson of ABC News it became quite evident going in that Charles Gibson is disingenuous, and sexist. Can you name anyone that has ever ask Barack Obama if he felt qualified to be President of the United States, or for that matter can you name anyone that ran in the 2008 Presidential race that was asked that question?  Governor Palin is the only one in the race with governmental executive experience at any level.
 
Can anyone tell me why it is important to have met a foreign head of state prior to becoming VP.   She has negotiated with Big Oil, Liberal, and Conservative politicians and interacted with Governors from across these United States. She has made decisions that affect everyone living in Alaska, and she has been doing that for almost two years.  With an 80% approval rating from the Alaskan populace I would venture to say that she must be doing something right.
 
Can anyone tell me why the Obama camp seems to be running against Governor Palin since McCain named her as his running mate?  Shouldn’t the race be between Obama, and McCain? Has anyone asked Joe Biden if he felt qualified to be president?  Maybe someone should ask Biden, “what’s changed,” since he said; “Obama was not qualified to be president,” and now…  Can anyone name the qualifying event that took place between time Biden uttered those words, and now?
 
There is a place for community organizers, but that place is not necessarily the White House. How does that experience outweigh Governor Palin’s experience and why does the Obama camp want to run a campaign against the number two spot on the McCain ticket.
 
How will anyone that allows themselves to get this worked up over McCain’s VP pick deal with foreign heads of state?  The Democratic Party seems to have forgotten that the real opponent is John McCain… Not… Sarah Palin.
 

I just went through these posts and there is not a single positive issue based post pro-McCain form the McCain camp. The Republicans argue constantly what McCain is not and never what he is – oh except he was a POW. American have REAL ISSUES/REAL PROBLEMS.
Read my lipstick: No way! No How! No McCain!
Obama/Biden ’08

“Can anyone tell me why it is important to have met a foreign head of state prior to becoming VP.”
Because that is a large part of the VP’s job.
The depths of sands the right wing will drive their heads into to pretned this woman is qualified is mind boggling.
This is the message I have been getting the last couple of days.
Who cares if she doesn’t know foreign policy.
The Bush Doctrine is a made up term of pundits.
Lipstick on a pig is a phrase I have never heard of.
Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt

USVet said: “Obama says he wants to be a leader. McCain is a leader.”
Why is Mccain a leader? What has he led? How can you believe his stolen slogan of ‘change’ when he seems proud of the fact that he’s voted with Bush 90% of the time? Is he a leader simply because he’s old? I don’t understand your assertion…

Frieda
it is about understanding issues…
many many issues…
complicated detailed socio-political issues
historical issues
this vp choice Palin is the worst decision by a Presidential nominee in the history of our nation.
He just threw the country under the bus like the same team that did it for the last 8 years…cover ups and lies included
that might be …because they are the same team.

(AP) John McCain’s campaign keeps telling voters that Sarah Palin opposed a federally funded Bridge to Nowhere that, in fact, she originally supported. It accuses Democrat Barack Obama of calling Palin a pig, which did not happen.
Factcheck.org – A McCain-Palin TV ad accuses Obama of being “disrespectful” of Palin, but it distorts quotes to make the case.
Factchec.org – McCain-Palin Distorts Our Finding – Those attacks on Palin that we debunked didn’t come from Obama.
Factcheck.org – A McCain campaign ad claims Obama’s “one accomplishment” was a bill to teach sex ed to kindergarten kids. Don’t believe it.
Los Angeles times – New election low: distorting the fact-checking – News outlets and independent truth squads seem to agree that the McCain camp’s distortions on Barack Obama have gone too far.
This is an honorable campaign?

Jake
Why is it your truth meter is never focused on Obama. That quote about ‘great progress’ is a lie. He (McCain) said ‘fundamentally sound’ (which, of course, is true. He also said that these were ‘tough times’.
It’s more Obama lies.

In response to Katrina, schools, healthcare:
When did the Government become our wet nurse? The current victim-state mentality brings us nothing but weak politicians never solutions.

“I’m not old enough to remember the 1960 and 1964 campaigns, but I don’t think Goldwater was a factor in the 1960 campaign, and Kennedy died in November 1963, well before the 1964 election campaigns would have been engaging in 2-party town hall meetings.”
Nope. It’s a case of him being old enough to remember. Kennedy was in Dallas to shore up Democratic loss of support because of scandals associated with Lyndon Johnson. The campaign was already starting and Goldwater was favored. Johnson won mainly on the sympathy vote over the loss of Kennedy. Weirdly enough, had Kennedy lived, the Democrats likely would have lost because JFK was an unpopular President by that time, particularly in the Deep South.
The problem of looking back is if you weren’t there, you don’t know and the history books have been sanitized so you won’t know.

gang
did you see thatb they are getting more winesses to show that mccain did not vet his vp
the book banning story is actually true (even without specific books)
the rape kit charging true…and the police chief who fought for it to continue wa sher appointee…and the state asked the town to stop it before they had to pass a law to get them to stop it…because “the town” wouldn’t stop charging the victims for RAPE KITS
ugh
their are knew scandals coming up today about her hiring practices and that she says her brother in law should have been fired for abuse …yet she appoitned a guy to state wide office ion the police who had drum roll…assault charges and abuse issues…ugh
every single thing they told you now…was either a lie…or not exactly the fact about this VP candidate…
between that and the interview last night…
this is how Mccain would govern?
r u kidding…play some political tactic for self rewarding results… and then cover it up at every pass…
yeah wow …talk about “the same”

len,
Are you seriously saying the Bush doctrine doesn’t exist and has not been in discussion and implementation since 2002?
Are you saying the US did not adopt a policy of preemptive strikes vs perceived threats ?
Are you really going to tell that bald faced lie?
I can’t believe you are practically thumping your chest about her ignorance of a doctrine that has been the driving force of foreign policy in this country for the last 6 years.
Even when Gibson explained it to her, she reverted to script.

Jake Tapper, I don’t think anyone read the article above. Sounds like everyone just wants to insult each other. I don’t agree with Obama. (i know big surprise there) He took those words and made them sound bad. John McCain was saying that because of the work our mayors do across America, makes it easy for Senators to go to Washington and “be somewhat divorced from the day-to-day challenges people have.” That’s how I read it anyway.
As for the economy? Didn’t Obama and his wife make over 4 million dollars last year? I know McCain and his wife did quite well too. My point? Is the economy in as bad a shape as the media and politicians say it is?

wow Mccain and his VP look like they are screwing up left and right…and you all are going to make comments like
“obama is still a muslim because he has a muslim name”
do we really have people this stupid in our country…
and mccain wants to keep the education budget low and has a VP that puts science below what her intuition tells her.
yeah it really is that we are getting dumber as the rest of the world pulls it together and uses our educational facilities to get smarter.
oy
thus we elected georgie jr. twice.

Boy, is this a choice between two “evils” or what?

“I think the tone of this whole campaign would have been very different if Senator Obama had accepted my request for us to appear in town hall meetings all over America..we could talk about my days as
a POW and LipStick on Pigs and how the American People are Whiners and such.
and talk about the Iraq war and how
it should be at least 50 oh make it
100 years… but all my opponent wants
to talk about is Numbers and things..
Im not up on.. but I have people that
I can ask… Like Bush and his Crew..
Dont no one be putting the Bad Mouth
On THE STRIGHT TALK EXPRESS…
My Friends Let Us Pray…

Why has Obama sealed his transcripts?
Where has Michelle Obama been hiding out?
What did Obama do, who did he associate with after graduation from high school THRU graduation from college?
What were Obama’s specific accomplishments as a community organizer?
Why did John Kerry set Obama up?
Hillary, they stole it from you. She could have won the ticket.

It’s over folks.
Barring an asteroid hit, McCain/Palin will be sworn in on January 20.
All that’s left is the comic tradgedy of watching the sinking liberals tear each other apart.

Obama a Jimmy Carter for the new Millenium.

donttreadonme -
That’s the typical Republican dodge, btu you won’t find me so easily distracted.
Earmarks are NOT the issue. LYING is the issue. Obama is not going around LYING that he never took earmarks – hell, that’s a politicians JOB, getting earmarks for local areas.
McCain is LYING when he claims Palin never asked for earmarks, he’s LYING about lipstick, he’s LYING about sex education and he’s LYING when he claims she turned down the bridge to nowhere.
Republicans need to lie to win. Their policy has been exposed as a failure.

“Obama wants the taxpayers to finance a huge new government handout to pay us to “volunteer”.”
See, right-wingers have to make stuff up whole cloth in order support their views.
This is a rhetorical technique called a strawman. You set up an absurd concept, attribute it to the opposition, and then dismantle it.
Show me where Obama said anything like that.

Obama/Biden are weak.
Obama doesnt have any policy. Just rhetoric of change.
Sure McCain swiped it and is running with the change theme. Looks like Obama is just ###### because someone took his only crutch.
Regarding lies:
I’m so sure he’s (i.e. Obama) has never lied about anything either LOL
I trust him when he pinky swore that he never heard anything Rev Wright said (in 20yrs of church membership.)
“That’s not the Rev Wright I know”
I trust him when he pinky swore that the financial help Resko gave him was on the up and up.
“That’s not the Tony Resko I know”
I trust him when he pinky swore that he was a christian.
“John McCain has not talked about my muslim faith”
hmmmmmmm

Someone insulted Jimmy carter by comparing him to Obama! Carter was a governor and a peanut farmer! Obama never governed and only offers peanuts!

“Obama/Biden are weak.”
Ad hominem
“Obama doesnt have any policy. Just rhetoric of change.”
Ad Hominem, and a lie. His policies have been covered extensively.
“Regarding lies:
I’m so sure he’s (i.e. Obama) has never lied about anything either LOL”
Same issue as before, a change of subject, a distraction. Before we move on to Obama’s lies, you need to concede that John Mcain has lied, and continues to lie, and I’d like to see you justify how that makes him superior to Obama as a president.

“Obama said he would give a person $4000 towards their college education if they commit to volunteer in something.”
Exactly. Like the Peace Corps. The government invests 4000, gets an educated citizen and a year or so worth of free labor improving the local community.
Now, if we were talking about putting people on a payroll to improve the community, I could see the hesitation.
But this looks like a bargain to me.

Muslim, christian, who cares? Both religions are wacky. We’ve become a nation of boobs arguing irrational, non-political concepts during a political campaign. Why the hell can’t we have a decent secular person running for office? There is no hope.

lies:
Good arguement, please refer to my “lesser of evils” comment from earlier in the discussion.
With these two to choose from:
I would take a navy commander over a community organizer.
I would take a senator with 20 years of experience in the game versus one with 140 odd days (at time of announcement).
Frankly, all the senators that have been running for YEARS have not served the people! It would be more respectful to resign from office to run. IMO

mkoch,
you’re not the only person who knows debate terminology, so lighten up, Francis. It is NOT a strawman argument to point out that Obama proposed giving people $4000 of government funding for college in exchange for “volunteering.” This proposal is wrong-headed and unworkable. And, as a volunteer coordinator in my local community, I am sick and tired of kids who volunteer because it is required by their school or a club they belong to (such as the Honor Society) or because they need to pad their resume for their college applications. They show up at volunteer opportunities, text their friends, stand around, and do as little as possible. They have no passion for the project– they just want that line on their resume, to be able to check that box. Once they get my signature on their form attesting that they “volunteered,” they are gone as fast as possible.
Don’t get me wrong–there are tons of young people doing volunteer work because it is their passion, because they truly want to contribute to their community. These young people make me proud and it is an honor to work beside them. But they do not need a government check to inspire them to contribute. Praising their selflessness is a great thing; paying them for it rather defeats the whole purpose, don’t you think?

I agree with more debates!
Frankly, the candidates should want to do it.

The kids are following the smooth talking pied piper but thinking adults are waking up to the fact that we can’t afford his soaring ideas and don’t want socialism in this country.
The Dems now are comparing him to Jesus and calling Palin Pontous Pilot. Jesus was a carpenter and a preacher NOT a community organizer. How crazy are these people? They have now insulted 80% of the U.S which are Christian.

QUICK! GOOGLE THESE WORDS:
Joyce, that’s a blog, not Obama.
Give it up, it’s been debunked.

Jesus was a carpenter and a preacher NOT a community organizer. How crazy are these people?
Katie, how exactly do you know what Jesus was or did.

“Are you seriously saying the Bush doctrine doesn’t exist and has not been in discussion and implementation since 2002?”
Show me the Federal policy with the name “The Bush Doctrine” attached to the title, Ryan.
“Are you saying the US did not adopt a policy of preemptive strikes vs perceived threats?”
The Bush administration adopted a position claiming the right for the President to launch preemptive strikes given intelligence of a threat. Palin was careful to answer with ‘imminent’. Tell me you’re not someone who believes it is better to watch almost 3000 people die on TV than to strike first. Of course, we would have had to strike Saudi Arabia, but details details.
I’m not a fan of pre-emption. It goes against practices that made us admirable. I’m saying if you know, you act, not defending George W. Bush.
“Are you really going to tell that bald faced lie?”
No, but until you quit calling people liars, don’t expect anyone to come around to your candidate. Haven’t you figured out why your candidate has been dropping in the polls steadily since the end of the primary? Don’t you get it yet?
YOU are the reason. You and the rest of his surrogates who insist on calling anyone who opposes you ‘racists’, ‘moron’s, and ‘liars’. You are inept politically, and no, knowledge of the Internet is no substitute for smart strategy. McCain undid your entire campaign strategy in a single day in an election that you could not lose.
But you are losing it. Why?
Obama chose to put his own self-image above the good of his party. He chose his arrogance over smart strategy. And the Democrats, a party of which I was a member, chose to take the bait on making a statement to the world, thus letting Pelosi carry on a cat fight at the national level.
You choose to play Spy Vs Spy, Us Vs Them, We Are THE ONES We’ve Been Waiting For, and you forgot, the DNC can select a candidate, but the people choose the President.
Why are you losing? You were suckered and you bought it. If the lollipop is sour, try to remember that in 2012.

When I watched I thought they were indeed essentially saying the same thing just with different words.
Its just that John McCain’s way of saying it more closely coincides with a major criticism that is being leveled against him…
lol… but I guess the same thing could be said about Obama his speech giving! The only thing is that the Republicans now have a vice-pres candidate who they will only allow to give speeches…

“Today, McCain-Palin 2008 released its latest television ad, entitled “Disrespectful.”
Factcheck.org =
A McCain-Palin TV ad accuses Obama of being “disrespectful” of Palin, but it distorts quotes to make the case.
The new McCain-Palin ad “Disrespectful” begins like an earlier ad we criticized, with its reference to Barack Obama’s celebrity, but then goes down new paths of deception. It takes quotes from news organizations and uses them out of context in an effort to portray Obama and his running mate, Joe Biden, as unfairly attacking Sarah Palin and making sexist remarks.

“Show me the Federal policy with the name “The Bush Doctrine” attached to the title, Ryan.”
True, it’s an unofficial title, but pretty common in knowledge.
From wiki -
The Bush Doctrine is a term used to describe various related foreign policy principles of United States president George W. Bush, enunciated in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks. The phrase initially described the policy that the United States had the right to treat countries that harbor or give aid to terrorist groups as terrorists themselves, which was used to justify the invasion of Afghanistan.[1] Later it came to include additional elements, including the controversial policy of preventive war, which held that the United States should depose foreign regimes that represented a supposed threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate (used to justify the invasion of Iraq)
The main elements of the Bush Doctrine were delineated in a National Security Council document, National Security Strategy of the United States, published on September 20, 2002,[5] and this document is often cited as the definitive statement of the doctrine.[7][8][9] The National Security Strategy was updated in 2006.[10]

” I do not believe that the govt should wet nurse every aspect of our society.”
And that’s another strawman. No one suggested that or anything like that.
Why do you feel the need to extrapolate everything a ridiculous level? Every aspect of our society?
“If a local community or person wants to offer scholarship for service, fine. It shouldnt be the role of the national government.”
That’s YOUR opinion, and you’re entitled to it. I do find it ironic that everyone always assumes the benefits THEY personally get from the feds (military protection, public education, roads, food inspection, working conditions, etc.) are the proper role, but anything they don’t personally benefit from is NOT the proper role…

correction: the movie/documentary is called Blocking “The Path to 9/11.

votes count
registrations dont

“mkoch: There is proof that the Clinton administration tossed information aside regarding possible attacks on our country. Attacks like 9/11. The information I believe was came during his impeachment hearings. A movie was made about this, Blocking 9/11, but was stopped by Clintons people. Go ahead and google blocking 9/11.”
The movie was not blocked, it was broadcast. It was written and produced by admittedly partisan producers and one scene was cut, because it was objected to and determined to be factually inaccurate. I’m very familiar with the case.
I’m not saying Clinton didn’t play a part, but look of the list of how Bush played his part as well.
Dismantled the forces we had ready to attack Bin Ladin. Had FBI agent John O’Neill step down. Demoted Richard Clarke. Did nothing about the Cole bombing. (What, the jurisdiction runs out after Clinton? Clinton had 20 days to act, Bush could have hit Bin Ladin any time after getting in office.)
“I’m sorry, paying someone to volunteer defeats the purpose. ”
I’m sorry you feel that way. I think you’d be getting services, convincing more kids to continue their education, raise the payscale of thousands of workers, and allow the benefits to spread.
It’s that kind of appreciation of investment that makes Democrats better fiscal managers, IMO.

ohiogirl, I’m afraid the facts just aren’t on your side.
First, the movie was not censored, it was broadcast. One scene WAS cut, due to the objections of the completely out of power Clinton administration, and the scene was determined to be non-factual. Made up. A fabrication. It also tried to blame 9-11 on the Clinton administration.
Now you’ve addressed exactly NONE of the facts I brought up, all of which directly related to 9-11 and all directly attributable to Bush.
I’m not saying Clinton had no flaws, I’m saying that the amount of evidence you have to ignore in order to hold Bush blameless strains rationality.
Google John O’Neill. Read Richard Clarke’s book. Look at the FBI records determining Bin Ladin’s guilt. Read the August 6th security brief given to Bush:
“Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and “bring the fighting to America.”
After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a — – service.”
If you want to have this discussion, you need to better informed.

mkoch: “Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and “bring the fighting to America.”
Ok, President Bush did not take office until 2001. Are you saying that Clinton did not know anything about this brief? If so, I find that hard to believe. As for Michael Moore’s movie, I know there are just as many people who dispute many of the so-called facts in this movie, but they didn’t know the right people (I guess) to stop or censor it. To be fair, I never and will never watch that movie.
So they “cut” part of Blocking The Path to 9/11, that is still censorship. I know the movie aired, but the UN-CENSORED DVD WAS blocked.

For the guy who said noone has proven a “lie” in Moore’s F-9.11, maybe that is because most of the movie was conspiracy theory and voice-over musing on the thoughts of Bush admin officials.
By their very nature, wild speculation and conspiracy theory are not provable/disprovable. 9.11 truthers, moon landing truthers and assorted dingbats are duped by these things all the time.
War for oil, Moore? Why are the dems the ones upset that we’re not taking Iraq’s oil surplus? Hm?

ohiogirl, that is text from the memo given to Bush in August of 2001. It summarizes the investigation into Bin Laden.
I don’t know what Clinton knew, and it doesn’t matter, because I’m not claiming Clinton didn’t have some responsibility. I’m saying Bush had plenty as well.
I don’t believe the Clintons have the power to stop Disney from publishing a DVD, particularly one that already broadcast. More likely, they just didn’t see much of a profit in it.
Myself, I don’t have the temerity to criticize or characterize things I’ve never seen. There’s a whole world out there, I’d suggest experiencing it and judging for yourself.
There’s such a thing as censoring yourself from the world.

“For the guy who said noone has proven a “lie” in Moore’s F-9.11, maybe that is because most of the movie was conspiracy theory and voice-over musing on the thoughts of Bush admin officials.”
Could be. But then it’s not “lie-filled”, is it?
Have you seen it?
“War for oil, Moore? Why are the dems the ones upset that we’re not taking Iraq’s oil surplus? Hm?”
“The man once regarded as the world’s most powerful banker has bluntly declared that the Iraq war was ‘largely’ about oil.
Appointed by Ronald Reagan in 1987 and retired last year after serving four presidents, Alan Greenspan has been the leading Republican economist for a generation and his utterings instantly moved world markets.”
The Guardian

Black mother at 7:20…..Obama has not an original thought…he is a sock puppet with an ego that will always come before our country!
McCain = experience = judgement = patriot = COUNTRY FIRST!!!!!

No. What McCain was saying is that he doesn’t get his hands dirty in day-to-day grunt-work — he’s got people for that. What Obama was saying is the Senate needs to get to action instead of being all talk.
Obama 08!

MLK dreamt for that day when America will judge a person for his character and not for the color of his skin. With 96% support Obama has from African-Americans, I guess he’s being judged more for his character.

DEMS,
A lot of difference.
Cindy McCain helped the needy and underpriviledged,regardles of race,of this world as a way of making sure its a better place than when she came in.
Michelle Obama, for the first time in her life is starting to love America. If Obama loses, I don’t know if she will revert to not liking America.

When is Senator Obama going to be man enough to go Mano O Mano with Senator McCain and accuse him directly instead of the cowardly way he uses Bush to make attacks that are actually directed at Senator McCain?
Al MacLeod

Oh wait.
I get it.
You are saying that McCain is not Bush.
That’s fair. There is plenty of blame for both of them and I think you will hear Mr. Obama addressing your concerns more and more in the coming days.