Joe Who?
When Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama’s running mate Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., walked onto the Denver stage at his party’s convention the evening of Wednesday, Aug. 27, the spotlight of the entire nation was shining solely on him.
Less than 48 hours later that had all changed with two words: Sarah Palin.
Almost as soon as word leaked on Friday morning that the little-known Alaska governor had been picked as Republican nominee Sen. John McCain’s number two, the attention paid to Biden quickly vanished into the Mile High air.
Since the Delaware senator left Obama’s side and ventured out on his own on Labor Day, he has hardly garnered any national media interest at all.
His plane, a blue chartered 737, now crosses the country with about three-quarters of its seats empty, rows and rows with nary a warm body to be found.
Biden’s supporters maintain that he is connecting with voters and garnering positive media interest on a local level. They also say that Biden is a "governing" pick, not a "political" pick, unlike Palin. That is, Biden will actually be able to help Obama govern; he’s not just a cynical selection to help his boss win the election.
Either way, as Air Joe flew from Wilmington to Charlotte, Sunday, the only reporters onboard were off-air reporters from the five television networks and correspondents from NBC and Politico. There was only one camera crew. The back of the plane, reserved for press, sat totally deserted.
The New York Times? Gone. The Washington Post? Not seen since the first days of September. The otherwise ubiquitous Associated Press? Left even before that.
And when the senator spent two straight down days at his Delaware home this weekend, the press corps dwindled further, with some members bolting the "small wonder" state altogether, leaving Wilmington a media ghost town.
On Saturday, only four reporters were around to cover any Biden action. Not that there was any.
Meanwhile, in marked contrast thousands of miles west, a media circus of approximately three dozen followed Sarah Palin’s every move, each one wondering if the woman who would be a heartbeat away from the presidency will ever brave their ranks to answer questions.
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Jake from the looks of the anti Palin rally that was bigger than her homecoming …what most are saying was the biggest rally in Alaska’s history…
I think Palin getting that kind of slow reactionary bad stuff starting to come out…
Biden is just fine …telling people about facts and answers and changes…
Palin repeating a speech ad nauseum and trying to cover that horrific interview that made Americans and the world sweat that this person could have been close to the “button” or declaring war…or shooting down commercial airliners over NYC.
Breaking News the McCain campaign has switched out Fey with Palin…
realized she is smarter literally and more qualified…she actually knows about the issues we face and the details.
Posted by: dl (the real one) | September 14, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Here’s hoping that the 3 dozen actually report on the lies. Every single time they are told. Call them out.
Posted by: Penny | September 14, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
DaveII – “The Tina Fey Story”
It’s bad when the comedienne imitating your bad choice for VP is more qualified (and if you break it down between brains awareness and (real not made up)executive management…
Tina Fey arguably is more qualified than Palin is.
how scary is that.
Posted by: dl (the real one) | September 14, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Admittedly, Palin has the intrigue factor of being an unknown. From what I’ve read, she’s certainly attracted a lot of northern exposure, if you will, from her times as mayor and governor. A lot of that exposure, such as her tendencies for personal vendettas, will not help the campaign. Interestingly, when asked once why she had no African Americans on her staff as governor, she replied succinctly that was because she doesn’t have to have any and doesn’t want any. So she’s not glib all the time and sometimes rides fine on the straight talk express.
Posted by: kat | September 14, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Obama made a worthless choice in Joe Biden.
It proves his lack of good judgment. Joe Biden is a Washington insider and supporter of the Iraq war. Two issues against which Obama has defined his career.
Obama’s poor choice in running mate is costing him.
Had he chosen Hillary, I truly believe he would be winning right now.
Posted by: JA | September 14, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Obama who?
Posted by: JAS | September 14, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Joe seems like a pretty good guy but I don’t know why he would be hanging around with Obama. Oh, I forgot, they’re both plagarist!
Posted by: KennyWI | September 14, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Everybody knows that the people surrounding Obama hate the Clintons and that is why he didn’t pick Hillary. Obama wouldn’t stand up for Hillary and he won’t stand up for you!!!
Posted by: Cassandra Washington | September 14, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Concerned – No need to be concerned that the real DL is not real with the figures. I read about the demonstration with the ADN and a couple of national reports, the estimates ranged from 500 at minimum to 1,000, with 1K being cited the most. It’s obvious from anyone paying attention to the blogs, that the vast majority of name calling and antagonism comes from McCain supporters. There’s a clear high and low road between both the campaigns and their supporters. Thanks for helping to illustrate that further.
Posted by: kat | September 14, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Maybe it’s best the media doesn’t focus so much on Biden.
Biden tends to do a lot of gaffes and the less gaffes echoed by the media the better.
The media will start paying attention to Joe closer to the October 2nd debate.
Sarah Palin has now becomea “celebrity”.
Posted by: Sandra | September 14, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Joe is my Senator and a good guy. He took one for the team by agreeing to the VP slot. He took one for America and the Democrats. For this, I will be grateful, but, for the first time ever, I am considering not voting for him this November. He’s up for re-election as Senator from DE.
Posted by: Kitty | September 14, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Is any of those reporters asking why he only gave 0.31% of his income to charity. Granted he only made $300k… but $900 to worthy causes? And that was by the way his greatest percentage of giving in 10 years… guess he was padding it for his presidential bid.
As an old-time tax-and-spend earmarker, I guess it’s easier to spend other people’s money on good causes!
Posted by: Diamond Lou | September 14, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Biden’s not being covered by the MSM because he’s a walking “gaffe machine” whose words can only hurt the Obama campaign. On the other hand the media vultures are only too eager to pick apart Sarah Palin’s every word so that there’ll be nothing left of her when they’re done.
Posted by: petee | September 14, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Governor Palin already told us she’s not going to Washington for the good opinion of the media. Imagine that. She doesn’t care what the media thinks of her. My kind of gal. McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Kitty | September 14, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Obama blew his first executive decision by not choosing Hillary. Biden’s good friend McCain had the cashews to make a smart executive decision. Personally, McCain and Biden have the best relationship of these four candidates, and we all won’t forget the famous tape of Joe saying Obama is not ready, and that he is clean and articulate for an African American, storybook, man. All McCain has to do is run that ad over and over and over. I like Biden, way more than Obama….but he won’t get his chance at VP.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN BEFORE PALIN
Posted by: Debra | September 14, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Concerned in Ohio- Seems my previous post disappeared. The Anchorage Daliy News did call the Palin demonstration the largest in Alaskan history, though with estimates between 500 to one thousand, it wasn’t huge by lower 48 standards. Thank you for your antagonism – it helps to clarify the differences between McCain and Obama supporters.
Posted by: kat | September 14, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
“what most are saying was the biggest rally in Alaska’s history..”
look everyone, dl has gotten so desperate he’s resorted to straight up lying.
By all accounts it was a couple hundred people. Only in your liberal disease ridden mind was it the “largest in Alaska history”.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 14, 2008 6:35:32 PM
Pictures and Videos to prove you wrong:
Posted by: Chad | September 14, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
dl….keep spinning about Gov. Palin she has 80% approval rating in her state and maybe the Axlerod camp hired some extras to gather a protest….meanwhile Gov. Palin is flying across this country and spreading the word….COUNTRY FIRST!
Posted by: Debra | September 14, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Yes, I read Joe “Who?” had to drop out of the 1987 presidential candidates race because he plagarized some of his speeches. He had also inflated his own academic record at law school. In his first year of law school, he had to appear before the disciplinary body of the law school to address charges of plagarism. He was “exonerated” because he promised he would never do it again.
Posted by: Fran | September 14, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
kat….over 2000 to greet Gov. Palin when she flew home last week and give a speech. I’m sure with the Obama campaign sending 30 of their surrogates to Alaska, they’ve been able to pay off a few miserable disgruntled Democrats to try and get media attention. Too bad no news coverage, hug….but FOX, CNN and MSNBC all stayed on air (11:30 PM East Coast) for her huge reception when she flew back home last week.
Posted by: Debra | September 14, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Joe Biden: the man who wanted to carve up Iraq into ethnic enclaves – and then “cut and run”. What brilliance!
Posted by: petee | September 14, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Proof of Joe who will be the few who post here….now if Gov. Palin was in the headline there would be post after post after post…..DEMS very worried…McCain ahead in electoral map.
Posted by: Debra | September 14, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Debra- I’m being redundant, but check out the Anchorage Daily News online and you’ll find the description. Local sources are primary sources and so are very likely to have the most accurate account. BTW, I’m not a liar. Once again, a someone is illustrating the point I made earlier, that most antagonism on this blog is generated by the McCain supporters. All of the accusatory outbursts seem to mirror the McCain campaign itself. Have to leave. Take care, dear.
Posted by: kat | September 14, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
First a little history lesson…Hillary also voted FOR the Iraq war.
There was no way that Obama could have picked Hillary. She spent almost a year trying to beat him so the Republicans would have had a field day with the video of her attacking him. The other problem is Bill. The Republicans would have torn him apart and destroyed his legacy. I truly beleive Hillary did not want to be VP.
Posted by: former Hillary dem | September 14, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
The numbers I got on the Obama supporters demonstrating in Alaska was about two hundred at the most and the Obama camp flew in some community organizers to organize it.
Posted by: dan | September 14, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
I saw a video of Joe Biden this past week asking a quadradeligic man in a wheelchair to “get up and show yourself to the crowd!” Then, realizing what he just done, the next words out of Biden’s mouth were “Oh God, what did I just do!” You couldn’t make this stuff up. What a buffoon!
Posted by: petee | September 14, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
The media is experiencing unrequited love with Palin and a best friend complex with Biden. I hope the media gets over it.
Posted by: Jerome | September 14, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Debra – Very quickly. I said earlier she is a media subject. But then a lot of the reporters going to Alaska have been digging through public records and interviewing her constituents and associates. A lot of what’s emerging clearly isn’t favorable to her. Like rape victims being required to pay for their own rape kits to prove they were raped. I’m not sure what your last point is beyond Palin is getting more attention than Biden, so nah-nah, gotcha. So long, dear.
Posted by: kat | September 14, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Jake, this is a real gem…MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA ASK, WHY ISN’T THE MEDIA COVERING BIDEN?
Posted by: a reader | September 14, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Palin got approval rating in the 90s, and probably the most popular public official in any state. No matter how the librals spin.
Posted by: linda | September 14, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said this to the Politico about the increased media scrutiny of the campaign’s factual claims: “We’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.”
truth, we don’t need no stinking truth.
Posted by: Danny | September 14, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
“Circus” is the operative word. The Republicans have picked clowns. And teh media loves a circus.
Americans need to get serious about the issues. About the truth. About who is really qualified and who is not. And about who is really an agent for change. To me, this is a slam dunk decision. And that will become clear soon enough. The circus only lasts a few days. The election goes on for another 50 days.
The Obama plan will roll out and build over the next 50 days. Peaking at the right time. And in the meantime, the clowns are going to get boring, being only able to do the same tricks over and over.
Posted by: PaulStewart9 | September 14, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
I think “Americans” have seen enough of Barack Obama and the polls reflect this. On the positive side, the Germans still love Obama.
Posted by: Jack | September 14, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Former Hillary Dem,
Sweetie, First a little history lesson…BIDEN also voted FOR the Iraq war. There was no way that Obama would have picked Hillary as he knows that she is more qualified than he is – his ego would never allow that. The Republicans did have a field day with the video of BIDEN attacking BHO – where have you been? The Republicans don’t have to tear Bill apart and try to destroy Bill’s legacy – BHO has already done his best to do that – and that is no fairy tale! I too truly beleive Hillary did not want to be VP as she knows deep inside that he is NOT fit to be Pres!
Posted by: Beckie | September 14, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
We are the ones the DNC was not expecting – PUMA08
Posted by: Ginnie | September 14, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
As you mentioned, Biden is there to help Obama govern, Palin was chosen to try and help McCain get elected. For all the bashing of Obama for being the celebrity and demeaning the crowds he was etting, it’s comical that Repoblicans are now championing Palin as the greatest thing since sliced bread, when in complete reality most never even heard of her two weeks ago and really no nothing about her.
McCan and the GOP supporters were just jealous of Obama, and the fake Palin lovefest proves it.
Posted by: Jonze | September 14, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Obama = Dumb
Biden = Dumber
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”
Posted by: david from texas | September 14, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
I feel sorry for Joe Biden. Obama is a loser and Biden looks like he is just along for the ride. There is ZERO energy between the two.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Ed, who copied and flipped my comment is just like those he is supporting. Stealing the ideas and energy that is change. All he can do, like McCain and Palin, is copy. What they do not take from Obama, they take from Bush. Like Ed, they have no original ideas.
I will repost the original thought Ed, just so you can see it again and enjoy the taste of a novel an original comment.
“Circus” is the operative word. The Republicans have picked clowns. And teh media loves a circus.
Americans need to get serious about the issues. About the truth. About who is really qualified and who is not. And about who is really an agent for change. To me, this is a slam dunk decision. And that will become clear soon enough. The circus only lasts a few days. The election goes on for another 50 days.
The Obama plan will roll out and build over the next 50 days. Peaking at the right time. And in the meantime, the clowns are going to get boring, being only able to do the same tricks over and over.
Posted by: PaulStewart9 | Sep 14, 2008 7:24:42 PM
Posted by: PaulStewart9 | September 14, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
McCain is leading in all of the polls. McCain is leading in electoral vote projections.
I feel Obama knows its over and so does his “followers”. Thats why you see them basing McCain, making fun of his age, of the fact that he has cancer, etc. Obama’s “followers” know that he is an “empty suit with no substance” and are lying their behinds off with hate in order to support him. What they are doing, is actually pushing Independents to McCain…for that, we thank you!
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”
Posted by: david from texas | September 14, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Of course Palin’s approval rating is high. She’s governor of a state that gives cash handouts to every man, woman and child using taxes from oil companies. Since we’re at record oil prices, Alaska has been able to give an extra $1200 per person this year (on top of he nearly $2k they normally give).
The Palin family alone is getting $16,000 in handouts this year.
I mean, who would disapprove of that? Every other Governor in the US has to actually tax citizens to pay for programs.
Posted by: johnTX | September 14, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Just keep the cameras rolling, ABC, so we can all enjoy the Daily Gaffe.
Posted by: mesquito | September 14, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
I don’t like Obama, its clear. I don’t like the fact that he lies, flip-flops, is a sexist, and an elitist. The thing that bothers me the most about him is the fact that he totally supports “on-demand” abortions and late term abortions. Also, I feel that his economic plan will only cause America to go deeper into recession.
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”
Posted by: david from texas | September 14, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
And I picture Aime on the floor eating the crumbs. licking your fingers so you can get a better hold of them UGH!
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
“What they are doing, is actually pushing Independents to McCain…for that, we thank you!”………..Don’t kid yourself, the independents are split and will stay that way-there are far more registered Dem voters than Rep voters. The polls are asking about two candidates, not three so things will change quite a bit four weeks from now. As for lies, McCain takes the prize as the sleaziest campaigner ever. Nixon is was a comparative nice guy.
Posted by: Jeb | September 14, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
This sounds pretty ridiculous to me. Go on Joe Biden’s plane! At least he will talk to you. Palin hasn’t said the first word to any reporters. Show Joe some love!
Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Obama knows its over and so does his “followers”.
Well. if he had to suck up to Bill Clinton – why didn’t he do it earlier?
This Obama guy is a big JOKE!
Posted by: JKan | September 14, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
so obamas down a couple points and all of a sudden hes a losing ticket? We have not gone through the debates yet
Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
david from Texas: You are correct. Biden didn’t have a big crowd following him but Palin was a distance away from Biden with reporters following her footsteps. What a difference a VP made. Hillary had 1200 people at her campaign and Palin had over 6000 in Neveda. And Obama’s crowd will dwindle shortly too. Palin will draw the biggest crowds of the campaign. Colorado is suppose to be leaning for Obama but believe me when she starts campaigning there they will switch. And McCain will possibly get Ohio.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 14, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Obama: Big money, no ideas!
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
The debates? Obama sucks at debating.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
JKan: Yes, Obama has been a joke from the very beginning with his sincere lies. He had the public believe his copied speeches from the book of RFK because they didn’t know the difference. They thought he was so smart until it started to come that he wasn’t. Now he has to use Bill Clinton to campaign for him along with Hillary. So why then didn’t he choose her has his running mate? And why are they so dumb that they can’t see he is using them for his own purpose.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 14, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I think its a shame that the media has decided that Joe Biden isn’t worth covering. I guess when you rely on for-profit corporations to receive info on candidates, you get what you ask for and not necessarily what’s important. If Obama wins, Biden will be a heart beat away and perhaps he deserves greater coverage as well. OR we can spend more time on lipstick and polls instead…
Posted by: Shannon | September 14, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Biden’s a good guy — he’d probably make a great neighbor. And, he’d be a better president than the shallow one.
The democrats however, picked a sure loser.
Thanks Dean. Thanks Pelosi. Thank all you socialists!
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Scott…not just a couple points…he was a losing ticket when he sat in a church and listened ty Rev.Wrong God damn America for 20 years! The desperation is showing when Obama’s surrogates come out and bash Mccain for being old and having had cancer! Is that the best they can do? Okay…good luck with that!
Posted by: Ed | September 14, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Pat from PA: Your jealousy is showing. Of course Obama is not going to get elected, McCain is. But don’t cry in your beer he can try again in 2012 along with Hillary and don’t forget Palin because she will run for president.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 14, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
I Cannot believe all you reptiles like mccain so much. He lies on a daily basis. You all said the same thing about gore,and look where america is today! Greenspan said today,that he has gone over mcflips plan, and claims that Mcflop will have to cut 3.3trilion out of spending to make his tax cut plan work,and also said it would fail. Are you really that pig headed to think Obama will lose? wow,are yu in for a shock come november. Just remember,Palin raised sales tax in alaska,and favored the bridge to nowhere,then opposed it when she got in office. Not to mention she kept earmark cash.
Posted by: Paul | September 14, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
First Obama trashes the Clinton and now, he’s begging them to save his failed campaign.
Chortle, chortle!
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Lipstick on a bulldog.
This the the female verson of Dan Quayle !
Posted by: Slim | September 14, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Aren’t we just SO important in the media that if someone isn’t just beseiged by media blowflies then they don’t exist? It must be like the tree falling in the forest with no one to hear it? You media people have so much HUBRIS!
I guess it isn’t newsworthy that Joe Biden is perfectly capable and, truth be known, should be on top of the ticket. No news, just fact. It is just the fate of our country, that’s all.
Palin is a flash in the pan. A novelty for a while. Joe will prove just how shallow and unfit she is in the debate.
And why don’t you media people all take a flying leap off of that airplane?
Posted by: Donna Hughes | September 14, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
I never thought Obama would be defeatable since he lies so well. Thank you for McCain and now Palin. Obama should be ahead by 30 points.
Posted by: young_voter | September 14, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Obama slips in every poll – now behind in electoral votes.
Posted by: Xtra Xtra, read all about it! | September 14, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Slim she is a long way from Quayle. In your stupid Obamabot attempts to discredit and malign people you fail to realize that in order to be persuasive you have to at least that her accomplishments are impressive for her background. I am not voting for Obama but I can look at all four President/VP candidates and see something positive about everyone of them.
With the Obama bot slamming there is no gray area.
One thing that I can say about McCain is everyone says what a good friend he is of theres but I have yet to hear anyone speak of Obama in that way except to say he is “eloquent”. I say the TV bios of all 4 and they all have redeeming qualities.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Interesting read, Shannon. It’s really too bad that the avoid-all-policy-talk strategy is working. I’m going to be highly disappointed if all I hear during the debates is sniping about whose lipstick is the best color and who loves America more.
Don’t we deserve better?
Posted by: josie | September 14, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Oh, the irony. What ABCNews advertised as the “text heard ’round the world” has fizzled into obscurity. The media is in a terrified frenzy over Palin, but they should be more embarassed than panicked. How many articles did I have to read, how many press corps interchanges did I have to watch as they obsessed, biting their nails over who Obama was or wasn’t considering. I had to read in the obscure Weekly Standard that Palin was a consideration, and as soon as I was done reading the article about McCain’s alternatives, I knew it would be either her or Pawlenty. Perhaps the MSM thought that if they ignored him enough, and expunged all thoughts of his VP selection from their heads, McCain would forget to choose a VP candidate altogether. The sequence of aftershocks cascading through the MSM has been relentless: Palin’s convention speech, the ratings for Palin’s convention speech, its effect on the ratings for the remainder of the convention, America’s indifference to the MSM’s attempt to turn her family into a demon brood, the post GOP convention polls, McCain’s favorability ratings, the rapidly changing electoral math, etc. Never before have so many journalists woken up to the sore realization that they can’t tell people who to vote for. The media is angry, really angry, that the American people are putting them back in their rightful places, mere delivery vessels for information, nothing more.
Posted by: Ryan G | September 14, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Scott: Obama should cancel his debates and do himself a favor. He never ever won one yet. He lost the forum interview. For a candidate that graduated from Harvard what happened?
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 14, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Shouldn’t Political Punch be interviewing Senator Biden, and not covering his reporters. This story just made the press the story. In lieu of an empty plane (reducing weight and thereby conserving fuel consumer per mile) I’m more curious about what happened to ABC Producer/reporter Asa Eslocker since his Denver arrest? Is thqt in ABC’s Law section? Could you follow up on that?
Posted by: Wisdom | September 14, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
I am very tired of reading Jake Tapper’s snide commentary. and hope he is soon dismissed from the ABC staff. I do not find his comments fair to either party.
Posted by: TOM ADAMS | September 14, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Maybe Slow Joe should re-plagarize his life story, again, and come back as a woman.
Posted by: notafool | September 14, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Shouldn’t Political Punch be interviewing Senator Biden, and not covering his reporters. This story just made the press the story. In lieu of an empty plane (reducing weight and thereby conserving fuel consumer per mile) I’m more curious about what happened to ABC Producer/reporter Asa Eslocker since his Denver arrest? Is thqt in ABC’s Law section? Could you follow up on that?
Posted by: Wisdom | September 14, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
What’s really sad is that the media can get us to focus on sensationalistic trivia like Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy and what she thinks about the Bush Doctrine, whereas there are a lot of doctrines, like low-taxes high-deficits that anyone with any math skills know will continue if McCain and Obama do what they say they will. Greenspan even chimed in on it. But ABC will ask Palin about her opinions and not directly challenge McCain or Obama. A sad situation.
Posted by: Mickey | September 14, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
I just heard Joe Biden’s speech in N.C. and he addressed issues that matter to me as a voter and should matter to anyone having to get up and make a living every day in this country. That the press chooses not to cover his well chosen and heartfelt words is not a mystery to me…..
After all, what is more important; health care, the economy, our moral obligation to care for one another? Or the the endless diversion of our attention from real issues to moose, lies, and lipstick?
Posted by: Kathleen | September 14, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
We love Joe Biden! Much more interesting to watch and read about. give us more!
Posted by: Carolina | September 14, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
People. Obama is just too far to the left thats all.
If he was down the middle moderate, he’d win easily.
The Dems picked someone who is just too far from the average American and too elitist.
They are the party of the insider. Change is needed, just not the socialist type of change from Obama.
The change needed is what McCain/Palin is going with. Get spending back under control, be energy independent for economic and national security reasons, and pragmatic ways to understand and deal with global warming which seems to have stopped before last winter.
Posted by: Tom | September 14, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Which adviser do you suppose Obama will toss under the bus?
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Sarah Palin has not answered a single question LIVE on air since she was picked as VP nominee. That’s 16 days! What is going on with this country that a person running for the second highest office can get away with not answering questions?
Grill Palin NOW!
Posted by: GrillPalinNow | September 14, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Obama may still dump Biden and go with Hillary.
BUT, would Hillary really want to be the Veep on a ticket that would still lose due to Obama showing again how weak he is using Hillary as a gimmick pick when she should be on the top of the ticket.
Hillary is now looking at 2012 and she has a kickin good chance of winning in 4 years.
Posted by: Tom | September 14, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
This is what it’s come to. Liberals are now trying to say that a TV show comedian is better qualified to be VP than a popular and successful governor of an American state because.. well they’re not sure why, but she seems to be more across the ‘issues’ when performing a satirical script, by which they mean she’s a leftist like them and making fun of a conservative politician.
This is madness. Obama has zero executive experience. Zero.
ZERO.
Posted by: Amos | September 14, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Palin has answered every question. Obama stutters, stammers and dodges every question!
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
What is going on with this country that a person running for the second highest office can get away with not answering questions?
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unfortunately sleazy Barry Obama set the bar for not coming under scrutiny and dodging questions. He won’t even release his grades from Columbia.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Tom: As a republican I can tell you stop dreaming. Barack Obama will be the next president. We republicans have no vision. Its a damm shame put we are runnig a campaingn based on personalities. We are acting like childish tenns. We need to re-group and thats by starting to pick a new candidate, sorry but McCain is not the one. Palin has proven to be controversial and everyday we hear a new scandal. Do you really think Americans fell comfortable with this women as VP or president if McCain dies??Think again. McCain had a 7 point lead and now is down to barely two. McCain is down in OHIO, MI, PA, IOWA, TIE IN NH…I hate to say it we lost our standing as republicans. Palin is no conservative and her views are just to extreme for Middle America. So Republicans lets not foole ourselfs. Lets work hard for 2012.
Posted by: Mike-USSA INCHO | September 14, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Biden turned out to be a disappointing presidential candidate but he has turned out to be a more disappointing vice presidential candidate. Oh well.
Posted by: Marty | September 14, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
There are more registered Democrats than registered Republicans…however, there are more Democrats who are going to vote republican this year than any other year in history!!! Why, because the smart Democrats do not want Obama and his redistribution of wealth! We intelligent Democrats know the difference between a “shill” and an honest talker! We intelligent Democrats know what the issues are and we don’t vote just because someone is the same color! This Democrat says McCain/Palin!
Posted by: mfmros | September 14, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Gosh, I don’t know why she’s not bothering to answer questions like, “Why won’t you tell us the truth about your grandson Trig?”
The press lost the high ground on this one within 3 days of her announcement.
Posted by: Jim Treacher | September 14, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
The only strategy I have seen coming from the Obama campaign is to hide Michelle at all costs. Other than that it’s just negative, negative, negative./
Posted by: PAvoter | September 14, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
There is also indication that most of the independents will go to McCain. I am so happy.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
******AGAIN AS A REPUBLICAN I MUST ADMIT, WE LOST OUR VISION AND NOW IN DESPERATION WE ARE RUNNIG A CAMPAING BASED ON PERSONALITIES. LETS RE-GROUP AND WORK HARD FOR 2012. AS IT STANDS NOW I AM HEARING BY ALOT OF MY FAMILY FRIENDS ALL REPUBLINCAS BY THE WAY, THAT THY DONT FELL COMFORTABLE WITH PALIN AS A VEP OR POSSIBLE AS A PRESIDENT. FOLKS LETS FACE IT BARACK OBAMA WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT. SHAME THAT THE MCCAIN CAMPAING HAS TURNED HIS CHANCES TO A NEGATIVE CIRCUS!!! THIS PALIN NEEDS TO STOP LYING…THIS IS NO TRUE CHRISTIAN, WE DONT LIE.
Posted by: MIKE-USSR INCHON | September 14, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Biden is a terrible Catholic, all the Cardinals and Catholic paers are on to him, He has terrible views on abortion, and those interviews like charlie Gibbson should quiz him on his Catholic values. He is a liar and was chosen because they were using Catholic voters, Why is he not honest about his views on abortion. and also his voting recor, how many times, he went against his church,I can take a person for their views, but not a hypocrite. concerned atholic
Posted by: maryanne | September 14, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Oh my God!!!! Now Obama and Biden are the far, far, far LEFT LIBERALS. Give me a break! I for one am not falling for the Karl Rove campaign tactics anymore!! Please people, educate yourselves. Listen to the debates coming up. Don’t vote on your emotions from the media. Listen to your hearts as Americans and pick who you think can help our Country.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
PAvoter
Why do they call Michelle ‘baby mama’? Is that anything like ‘baby huey’?
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Palin is a weird kind of Republican. She’s socially conservative and fiscally liberal. I guess she’s kind of like Bush in that regard.
Alaska is a socialist state. They derive all of their revenue from taxing oil companies and getting handouts from the Federal government. They use this money to run the government and whatever is left, they give to the people (upwards of $3000 for every man/woman/child this year).
The people of Alaska don’t pay state taxes. All said and done, Alaska is probably one of the most extreme forms of socialism that exists in the world.
The idea that people wouldn’t vote for Barack Obama because they think he’s a socialist is ridiculous. He’s a red blooded libertarian compared to Sarah Palin.
Posted by: johnTX | September 14, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
The only fainting going on at the Obama rallies is from boredom. Geez what happened?
Posted by: UW-Madison | September 14, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
jljaguir
Americans are doing exactly what you propose.
Only they’re not voting for a community organizer.
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Will the media be complicit like they were with the invasion of Iraq and follow the orders of Republican bullies and an American public that isn’t too bright? Questions need to be asked of Sarah Palin. Palin is not being crowned queen.
Grill Palin NOW!
Posted by: GrillPalinNow | September 14, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Not a political pick?! Please! Biden was picked because he is supposed to compensate for Obama’s complete lack of foreign policy experience. He presents a white face in a misguided effort to lure Hillary’s blue collar support. Biden is a constant gaffe machine whose words are only safe when he steals them from someone else. ABC News is so freaking biased in this race it’s ridiculous!
Posted by: Obama Inexperience | September 14, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
You don’t make news when you’re a quiet work horse, doing what needs to be done every day. McCain picked Palin in part due to the shock value — the sensationalism, but that move is proving to back fire, as there is no substance to back her up.
Posted by: get informed | September 14, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
What’s wrong with Obama? He’s got ‘foot in mouth disease’.
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
A community organizer for president?
Certainly not a Chicago community organizer.
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Tell Mr obama to give a off the cuff with out his guides telling him what to say intervue and maybe the nation would realy see what he is or isnt about.
Posted by: kjohn | September 14, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Obama as Mr. President? No, but maybe Mr. Present!
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
“Circus” is the operative word. The Democrats have picked clowns. And the media loves a circus.
Americans need to get serious about the issues. About the truth. About who is really qualified and who is not. And about who is really an agent for change. To me, this is a slam dunk decision. And that will become clear soon enough. The circus only lasts a few days. The election goes on for another 50 days.
The McCain plan will roll out and build over the next 50 days. Peaking at the right time. And in the meantime, the clowns are going to get boring, being only able to do the same tricks over and over.
Posted by: Stuart Paul 10 | September 14, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Charlie Gibson: What insight into Russian actions, in particular the last several weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
Sarah Palin: You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.
McCain/ Palin just don’t get it. Vote Obama.
Posted by: FailinPalin | September 14, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
It’s called the Oprah effect. You can tell how nervous the democrats are by how big Oprah’s butt gets. At this point I would say they are very nervous. Very very nervous!
Posted by: Brad | September 14, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Barack Obama: An empty suit held upright only by a lot of hot and BS!
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Every advantage has been given to Obama and he still can’t seal the deal. Sarah gets her first national MSM interview and Charlie acts like he’s interviewing a criminal instead of Alaska’s gov. Then ABC mangles the editing. Charles Gibson you just lost any integrity you had with the “people”
Keep hearing how Sarah won’t talk “to reporters” SHE Doesn’t have to–she can talk to US directly. WHO NEEDS YOU!
Posted by: Rhonda | September 14, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Poor Biden – even in this thread no one cares about Old Joe. Sniff!
Posted by: Jill | September 14, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Palin believes the earth has been around for only 6000 years – but I’m not surprised; she wanted to ban some books in the library. Don’t confuse Palin with any facts, her mind was made up decades ago. Better be prepared for war with Russia…
Posted by: outerboundary | September 14, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
IGNORANCE IS BLISS. I AM OUTTA HERE
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Will the media be complicit like they were with the invasion of Iraq and follow the orders of Democratic bullies and an American public that isn’t too bright? Questions need to be asked of Obama. Obama is not being crowned King.
Grill Obama NOW!
Posted by: GrillObamaNow | September 14, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Can anyone name ANYTHING that Obama hasn’t flip-flopped on?
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Biden is too boring to be interesting. Palin is not.
Posted by: reader1 | September 14, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
There’s a good reason we don’t talk about Biden in this forum – he’s well qualified to be VP or P – nothing to worry about with him. Palin on the other hand: Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid.
Posted by: outerboundary | September 14, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Plagiarism everyone. HeBiden is a confirmed liar and thief. Doesn’t anyone care?
Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
In case none of you have noticed,the media has lost their credibility and objectivity in the eyes of the average American as of late.
Even MSNBC figured that out and gave Olbermann and Matthews the boot…….
Say what you wish about Sarah Palin, but I wouldn’t talk to the media much either if I were her.
McCain/Palin supporters are still turning out in the the thousands to all of her events, so she must be doing something right.
The media thought they were going to determine the next POTUS, but it looks like they might have another thing coming.
Posted by: Lee | September 14, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
actually this low-key media attention may actually benefit biden…
for starters, he can go under the radar like bill clinton did once he stopped dealing with reporters during the late part of the primaries and pull in those small town voters without any distraction….
2nd, he won’t be exposed to HUGE gaffes that’s he’s prone to do since there’s no large media attention around him…..the hillary gaffe is a prime example…it had NO EFFECT when any other day it would of been the lead story.
biden was in charolette, NC today…had a nice large crowd and did his thing, but none of the media catching it…the KEY is to reach the voters directly, and without media distraction…i think it’s more effective that way.
Posted by: gluvnast | September 14, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Biden’s not being covered by the MSM because he’s a walking “gaffe machine” whose words can only hurt the Obama campaign. On the other hand the media vultures are only too eager to pick apart Sarah Palin’s every word so that there’ll be nothing left of her when they’re done ———————————-
Chomp,crunch, gurgle…more salt please…
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
It really is sad when in a blog about Biden his name is seldomly mentioned. Jake, I’m feeling kind of bad, could you give us a new thread?
Posted by: Jim | September 14, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Michelle Obama as first lady?
Just think about it!
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Obiden has governing experience??? Palin doesn’t????
Posted by: Heidi | September 14, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Obiden has governing experience??? Palin doesn’t????
Posted by: Heidi | September 14, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Yes, I can tell you one thing Obama hasn’t flipped on:
The Iraq war was a horrible mistake. He said so from the beginning and he would say so today.
Posted by: outerboundary | September 14, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
And by the way, Hillary has this baggage she drags around. It is called “Bill”. Nobody wants her dragging him into the deal. There is the real reason Obama didn’t choose Hillary for VP. Perhaps she should have gotten a divorce before running for president.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | September 14, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
When the Circus Music dies and the clowns pile back in their car, the high-wire act of She Who Must Be Obeyed will come crashing down without a net.
And quiet, solid Joe will be there to say I told you so.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Okay, maybe not so quiet…
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Obama has indeed sold out and Biden doesn’t have anymore clue about reforming Washington then the first 100 names in the DC phonebook! Great line!
The Democrats want to talk about lipstick on a pig instead of the issues so that nobody notices that they have no better solutions to our problems than pushing the same tired old themes (Free Stuff!). They are NOT the party of the future!
In fact it WAS the Democrats who ASSUMED Palin was talking about Obama when she mentioned putting lipstick on a pitbull! so I guess it was really the Democrats who called her a pibull!
Like Obama OWNS the reference to “lipstick” on anything? Harley-Davidson tried once to patent the Oink of a Harley motorcycle. It didn’t work out so well.
As Garrison Keillor said, “We are all born Democrats, but when we grow up we become Republicans.” We will speak about the issues, thank you, and you Democrats may just have your little feeding frenzy on your new toy Sarah.
Sorry if John McCain is too dull for you children.
Posted by: Hugh Donna | September 14, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Was Obama’s Freudian slip about his Muslim faith the WRIGHT thing to say?
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
dl sez:
Michelle Obama as first lady?
Just think about it!
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Delicious. :-)
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Plagiarist. He is a known plagiarist — a liar and a thief. Does no one care?
Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
JoeBiden is a terrible catholic, he as takn to attract catholic voters, His voting record on abortion is terrible, What is bad about these lies their are pople who are unaware, and think he is a good catholic, the cadinals have mentiond about him , and several catholic ppers.Why wasCharlie Gibson easy on religous issues with Biden and not easy on Sarah. he is making a mockey of or faith and the medi is letng himdo it.
Posted by: maryanne | September 14, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Perhaps Joe Biden should become Josephine Biden for the election? He should wear plenty of ruby red lipstick & bring his pet pig with him to the vice presendential debates? I’m sure the press would go nuts over a congressman becoming a congresswoman…
Otherwise, Joe Biden will not get an real national attention until the debates. He’s done.
Posted by: Sebastian Shaw | September 14, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
The “talk” of all the investigators going to Alaska to find dirt on Sarah Palin is quite funny because they are Obama’s campaign people. Here in Illinois we’re wondering when “investigators” are going to Chicago to do the same for him? Firing a brother-in-law pales in comparison to all the Obama tales. You know…details of all his Illinois campaigns…legislation he ACTUALLY wrote and passed, not just added his name to as a sponsor…his low income housing dealings…his wife’s salary and the money her employer has received. When it is rumored that Palin had an affair, I immediately think of Chicago rumors about a limo driver and a choir director. Obama has flown under the radar and I think it’s time HE is “investigated”…for equal opportunity sake of course.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | September 14, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Perhaps Joe Biden should become Josephine Biden for the election? He should wear plenty of ruby red lipstick & bring his pet pig with him to the vice presendential debates? I’m sure the press would go nuts over a congressman becoming a congresswoman…
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Why steal the show from Rudy?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
dl asked:
Can anyone name ANYTHING that Obama hasn’t flip-flopped on?
I can. At last look, he was still a Democrat, though it does look like he is changing his positions on tax cuts and off shore drilling. Maybe we’ll have two Republicans running by election day.
Posted by: mghirsch | September 14, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
RL in Illinois,
Why? What are your investigators wasting their time on?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
The nest time the Cons complain about the bias of the press, consider where Biden’s 3 days of taped interviews with Charles Gison went? Unlike for Palin, it never happened.
Posted by: foxisms | September 14, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Sarah plead no contest to a criminal negligence charge of using a drift a drift gillnet without a permit (an $50,000 – $250,000 permit) and had a charge of fishing without an ID that was dismissed while running as Mayor.
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W O W !!!!!!Get out of here that is despicable. I won’t vote McCain/ Palin now, that fishing without an id really was a deal breaker for me. I can’t believe how immoral she can be. I bet she was fishing for Halibut too wasn’t she. These criminal politicians just burn my grill. I mean fishing without a license? what kind of vermin is she?
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
foxismsn,
Like you wouldn’t just fall asleep and cost the network all that ad time.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
dl asked:
Can anyone name ANYTHING that Obama hasn’t flip-flopped on?
I can. At last look, he was still a Democrat, though it does look like he is changing his positions on tax cuts and off shore drilling. Maybe we’ll have two Republicans running by election day.
Oops, forgot about pulling all troops out now.
Posted by: mghirsch | September 14, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Jill Meskite,
Yeah, as your base says She’s One Hot Mama!
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Oh spare me your phony rage Leonard.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Obama should be having his wife out there more. She would be competition for Palin.
Posted by: steph | September 14, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
What do you mean no media he got the attention from day one so did Obama, don’t worry be happy Obama will win this race he got the best fund raiser of Ameircans, bestsides he is a male as what they all wanted in the first place so let him win let all the women stay home now let the man do all the jobs now.
Posted by: Matt | September 14, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
The way I see it Palin cancelled the bridge to nowhere that Obama & Biden voted for. Now that’s change you can believe in.
Posted by: Grace | September 14, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Wow! Sad! Even the Obamanation tribe has not gathered to defend their star foreign policy man! Amazing. No one is here posting about how wonderful Joe Shmoe is. They’re running from him!
Posted by: Kennedy | September 14, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
A Guy Named Keith sez:
Oh spare me your phony rage Leonard.
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Bro, I’m a lover!!! No rage in me!
Can’t see what made you think I was
upset with you. Can’t we all just get along?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
no talk about Biden because he dosent lie and no scandals . sarah is under alot of investigation
Posted by: Lyn | September 14, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
I forgot Biden has trouble telling the truth! Apparently, Neil Kinnock’s speech wasn’t the only thing he plagiarized. He also got in trouble in law school for plagiarizing. The he lied at a campaign stop in New Hampshire when he said that he graduated in the top half of his class in law school, attended law school with a full ride scholarship and had multiple degrees. In fact, he was 76th out of a class of 85 in law school, had a partial scholarship and only has a BA in addition to his law degree. Why would reporters want to follow a guy who can’t keep his story straight unless he plagiarizes?!
Posted by: Obama Inexperience | September 14, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Have a theory, and that is that Americans are absolutely starved for an authentic leader. A year ago, Barack Obama appeared to be that leader, but the more folks got to know him, the harder it was for him to close the sale — for numerous reasons. Then along came Palin! First, NOT A LAWYER! Second, ZERO EXPERIENCE IN WASHINGTON — a MAJOR PLUS! A mother of five; a business woman; a TV reporter; a small town politician responsible for a constituency; head of the Alaska oil and gas commission; and now a governor. Many men could not have accomplished what she has done (plus, a good hunter and fisherwoman!) But, more important of all characteristics, Palin has a passion for what she believes in, and does not mind sharing her opinion. She just comes across as an honest human being , and a breath of fresh air!! Know that she is already in the heads of Obama and Biden. The only thing they can do is attack her, and each time they do, they just force women into her corner. GUESS ONE QUESTION CHARLIE GIBSON SHOULD ASK HIMSELF: Had you rather have NON EXPERIENCE AT THE TOP OF A TICKET, OR IN THE VEEP SLOT?? Poor Charlie!!
Posted by: jwatl | September 14, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
steph, Michelle would be competition for Biden. She’s a walking gaffe machine but with anger.
Posted by: Pete | September 14, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Why are all the Obama women ‘victims’ of something or other?
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Apparently I struck a nerve. The Republicans are plagiarizing my posts now.
Obama/BIDEN ’08 – For the FUTURE of the USA!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | September 14, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Sarah is on news because she is under investigation, scandals
Posted by: Lyn | September 14, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Joe Biden is the guy who, as chair of the Judiciary Committee, let Anita Hill die on the vine when testifying against Clarence Thomas. Biden refused to let other women testify and failed to let experts testify on sexual harrassment.
Posted by: Susan B. Anthony | September 14, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
The Dems opened up the opportunity for Republicans to do something for women when Hillary was passed up for Biden. Can’t believe they weren’t smart enough to see that.
Posted by: Tex | September 14, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Yikes! Obama is a socialist? I suppose that means he plans to steal from the rich to give to the poor. It takes one misrepresentation, and a lot of fearful misinformed idiots to repeat it, and you end up with the below. Wow! The majority of the below posts simply confirm exactly how US presidents get elected. I do recall that both the Roman and the British empire collapsed once the masses stopped thinking.
Posted by: Repatriating soon | September 14, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
I thought that Sen. Biden was in the hospital. Having His foot surgicaly removed from His mouth.
Posted by: ripster24007 | September 14, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
If You were The Boss… which team would you hire?
With America facing historic debt, multiple war fronts,
stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high
prison population, skyrocketing Federal spending, mortgage
crises, bank foreclosures, etc. etc., this is an unusually
critical election year.
Let’s look at the educational background of the
candidates and see what they bring to the job:
Obama:
Occidental College – Two years.
Columbia University – B.A. political science with a
specialization in international relations.
Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna *** Laude
Biden:
University of Delaware – B.A. in history and B.A. in
political science.
Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
McCain:
United States Naval Academy – Class rank 894 out of 899
(meaning that, like George Bush, McCain was at the bottom of
his class)
Palin: Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in journalism
Now, which team are you going to hire to lead the most
influential nation in the world?
Posted by: Reid | September 14, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
The various news stations do shows on the life of the candidates. Have you ever seen any of Obama’s old friends come on and testify on his behalf? All they ever show is “new” democrat friends reading from the latest talking points. Makes me suspicious!
Posted by: Brenda | September 14, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Nice Keith,
I’ve written one for Sarah that is sung to the tune of the Beverly Hillbillies.
wanna hear it?
i really think it’s pretty good….
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Reid, you have to be kidding me. That was lame, very lame. Try again but under a new name.
Posted by: Peggy | September 14, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Governor Palin has eight years of executive experience, OBAMA HAS NONE. Palin has supervised people and departments, submitted budgets, created policies and governed people. OBAMA HAS NOT. What foreign policy experience does Obama have other than his premature “victory” tour in Europe this summer (when he refused to meet with injured troops because he couldn’t bring his campain staff)? Palin is far more qualified to be NUMBER 2 than Obama is to be the NUMBER 1 leader of the free world.
Posted by: Obama Inexperience | September 14, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Yay!!!
Merrill Lynch just folded with Lehman Brothers!!
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
You do know that Garrison Keillor endorsed Obama.
Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
this is natural, she is still unknown. and many things have to be exposed.
good luck sarah, hide from reporters as long as you can.
Posted by: zen | September 14, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
At the latest Biden/Obama rally Biden said “Barack, let’s bring your mother on the stage, bring her up here!”.
Posted by: KevinNY | September 14, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Reid,
The team with twice as many colleges on the resume as the next best team?
The team which doesn’t have a guy from Harvard, like the last President?
And your pick?
Posted by: unclesmrgol | September 14, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
I know of many uber-educated idiots out there, not a lick of common sense and ‘legends’ in their own mind.
Posted by: ripster24007 | September 14, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
THink that Palin is having a psychological affect on Obama. She is just too AUTHENTIC. He does not know what to do other than attack, and he loses women’s votes when he does. He is now in a vicious circle!
Posted by: jwatl | September 14, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
This was Biden’s reply to a voter question in 1987 when he was running for president: “I think I have a much higher I.Q. than you do.” He then went on to lie about and distort his academic record – such as claiming that he graduated in the top half of his class when he was actually 76th out of 85 – which is well-documented.
Posted by: Erika | September 14, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
WHO IS MORE QUALIFY TO GET A BETTER JOB? MCCAIN OR OBAMA ?PROVIDED WITH THR RESUMES. SOMEONE SHOULD PLEASE DEFINE QUALIFICATION,POLITICS ASIDE . WHICH AMONG THIS TWO CANDIDATEs HAS THE QUALIFICATION? I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT BOTH EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND
If You were The Boss… which team would you hire?
With America facing historic debt, multiple war fronts,
stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high
prison population, skyrocketing Federal spending, mortgage
crises, bank foreclosures, etc. etc., this is an unusually
critical election year.
Let’s look at the educational background of the
candidates and see what they bring to the job:
Obama:
Occidental College – Two years.
Columbia University – B.A. political science with a
specialization in international relations.
Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna *** Laude
Biden:
University of Delaware – B.A. in history and B.A. in
political science.
Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
McCain:
United States Naval Academy – Class rank 894 out of 899
(meaning that, like George Bush, McCain was at the bottom of
his class)
Palin: Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in journalism
Now, which team are you going to hire to lead the most
influential nation in the world?
Posted by: Reid | September 14, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
I know of many uber-educated idiots out there, not a lick of common sense and ‘legends’ in their own mind.
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…BUSH!!.. sry wrong answer…..
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Bingo!
“The media thought they were going to determine the next POTUS, but it looks like they might have another thing coming.”
by Lee
What more need I say.
Posted by: csnarnia | September 14, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
obama is done. i said on supertuesday that only the democrats could lose an election even though the repubs have basically destroyed the country. what idiots nominating obama. what idiots.
Posted by: angry black democrat | September 14, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Barack Obama was the president of the Harvard Law Review and earned a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard.
McCain graduated at the bottom of his class.
We’ve had 8 years of dumb, we don’t need 4 more.
Posted by: April | September 14, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
THink that Palin is having a psychological affect on Obama. She is just too AUTHENTIC. He does not know what to do other than attack, and he loses women’s votes when he does. He is now in a vicious circle!
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I agree, at night Obama thinks about Palin and that 80′s song is on his head
YOU ARE MY OBSESSION
I cannot sleep
I am a possession
Unopened at your feet
There is no balance
No equality
Be still
HERE COMES MY defeat
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
McCain chose Palin because he thinks she can help him get ELECTED, not because he thinks she can help him GOVERN. He absolutely does not know her well enough to have chosen her on that basis.
McCain should’ve chosen someone who could help sort out the economy, which is his weakness. But did he do that? No.
Obama chose Biden for several reasons. Yes, he thought Biden could help him get ELECTED and shore up support with that part of the electorate that didn’t vote for him during the primary. Obama also thought Biden would shore up his national service credentials, which are his weakness.
This is what he should have done and what he did.
I certainly can’t speak for Senator Obama, but I think he saw Biden as more than someone who might help him get elected. He saw Biden as someone who could help him GOVERN.
To me, Obama made the much smarter choice, because whoever wins this election is going to need all the help he can get.
I sense that Biden wouldn’t hesitate to call bulls**t on anything he didn’t agree with and challenge Obama. And don’t we all become better when we’re challenged?
From what I’ve seen of Sarah Palin this week, this is not the kind of VP she would be. She seems programmed, robotic, and would only serve to spew talking points.
The cynical part of me thinks that McCain will use her to get elected and then have her become more of an old-fashioned VP – relegated to state funerals and other ceremonial affairs. Then Heaven help us should an emergency occur.
Of course I don’t have a crystal ball and know if that WILL happen, but if he does treat her like this, anyone who think she was chosen because the Republicans respect women will have to think twice.
Posted by: Caroline | September 14, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
obama is done. i said on supertuesday that only the democrats could lose an election even though the repubs have basically destroyed the country. what idiots nominating obama. what idiots.
So join in!!! Lets take it ALL the way down!!! We have some jobs left to sell!!
We have some mortgages left to rob!!!!
We have some more wars to fight!!!
Together we can accomplish anything!!!
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Hey April can you get Obama to release his Columbia University grades. We know that he did not graduate with honors which means that his grades were not good enough to get into Harvard. His LSAT is also heavily guarded. We also know that he never published for the Harvard law review which is unheard of for the editor.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Leonard, why the change of heart? Come on now. You were Obama all the way weren’t you?
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Other than Hillary anyone would have been the same as Bidxen!
Actually Biden brought back most of the Hillary supporters to the Obama ticket,
take a good look at the polls after Biden nominated and Denver!
All fell after PALIN!
And I have to agree with the other few bloggers, Obama caused Palin’s political storm by eliminating Hillary!
Posted by: AMY | September 14, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Biden has been consistently on the wrong side of national defense. He voted against Desert Storm, and Iraq. He also voted against the surge. Obama says he would have also voted against the surge. So we are very clear that for Obama it’s ok to kill babies that survive abortions but terrorists deserve the same constitutional rights that we have. Biden is his right hand man and America doesn’t share the same values as these two people. Sarah Palin could have aborted her baby knowing it was going to be the victim of Down syndrome but she chose otherwise. Conservatism isn’t about abortion it’s about accountability and taking responsibility for your actions. That’s why her daughter is bringing a life into this world because she chose not to kill it. She chose responsibility as opposed to believing babies are punishment.
Posted by: Andrew Delalla | September 14, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Sarah Palin is authentic just like George Bush. Bush was a cowboy and she’s from the Alaskan frontier! We don’t care about no book learning! Let’s get one of us regular folk in the white house again!
Posted by: April | September 14, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Word has it, Obiden will be dropping out, some unforseeable reason, then he’s going to pick Hillary. I think that will do more damage to his already flaying campaign. He can’t handle the truth…
Posted by: Heidi | September 14, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Poor Biden. The Democrats have tons of money and a liberal media supporting them, and they still can’t close the deal against an aging soldier and a damage Republican brand. If McCain wins, it will be one of the most inspiring stories in American political history. Unbelievable. This will be my third time to vote. The first time I voted Republican and the last time Democrat. I’m voting for the soldier this time around. Both Biden and Obama are lawyers and neither inspire much enthusiasm.
Posted by: independent | September 14, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
“Meanwhile, in marked contrast thousands of miles west, a media circus of approximately three dozen followed Sarah Palin’s every move, each one wondering if the woman who would be a heartbeat away from the presidency will ever brave their ranks to answer questions.”
Is that what each one of them was thinking? I can’t read your mind, but I suspect you give yourselves too much credit for your mind-reading skills.
I wonder if perhaps even one of those journalists-on-ice is thinking, “Had the J-schools’ finest spoken of me the way they’ve spoken of Governor Palin, I’d freeze them out, too.” Maybe one of them is thinking, “Relations might have thawed by now, if Charles Gibson had settled for asking Governor Palin the same whiffleball questions he asked Senator Obama.” I wonder if one of them is thinking now, “Political Punch is not helping. I guess they’ve decided to keep punching until morale improves.”
From this product of five minutes’ work, one sees how much more capacious and various is my imagination of what others may be thinking.
Posted by: Kralizec | September 14, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Poor Joe, He hang around OB too long. He told Chuck to stand up but the miracle did not happen. LOL.
Posted by: mtr2311 | September 14, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
My Fellow americans let us join hands together and unite this country. we are all one. white or black we all gonna die someday. This election is dividng us dont vote on race pls vote on the issue that will help u and your family.(THis IS THE UNITED STATE OF AMERICA)
Posted by: UNITY | September 14, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
A Guy Named Keith,
Leonard, why the change of heart? Come on now. You were Obama all the way weren’t you?
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I know that sarcasm flies over the head of most Republicans, but cmon’ Keith, I thought you and me had a connection.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Wrong adjective, dl. No jealousy here, just smarts.
Posted by: Caroline | September 14, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
I think Joe Biden made a good statement when he said that Hillary was more qualified to be VP than he was. However, if NoBama chose Hillary now, I doubt she would do it. Hillary has her eyes set on 2012. This is why she is not saying anything negative about Palin. I feel she wants McCain to win so she can run against him. Hillary, like America, knows that Obama is toast in this election. He will never win in November.
Posted by: david from texas | September 14, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
It is not Biden who caused the collapse of Obama presidency but the negative attacks from the Obama campaign and MSM on another woman after Hillary to Sarah Palin!
Biden is fine!
Posted by: George, OH | September 14, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Sarah Rocks and the Libs are very scared of her! Women unite! Don’t let the Dems. BS you again and make you think they are the party for women! The Libs threw Hillary under the bus and off the planet!
Posted by: sexistnbc | September 14, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
The socialists are in a complete meltdown!
Posted by: dl | September 14, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
BIDEN, DEAN, KENNEDY, EDWARDS, MCGOVERN, RICHARDSON , PELOSI, REED..DNC, THEY ALL STABBED THE CLINTONS MULTPLE TIMES IN ORDER TO SALVAGE THEIR SAGGING CAREERS.. THE JEREMIAH WRIGHT CHICKENS IS COMING HOME.. NO CIGAR!!..
WE HAVE PALINIZED OBAMA..
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | September 14, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
What is wrong with Obama he just got back from a vacation in Hawaii and today he takes a day off. I am beginning to wonder if he wants it bad enough.
Posted by: Nader/Gonzalez08 | September 14, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
I am from MI.
I kind of liked Sarah palin allthough I don’t share any of her views!
She is a working class American who can understand us!Don’t take me wrong I love Biden but I think that he should be running for president and Obama the VP!
Than I may vote Democrat!
PEOPLE DON’T LIKE OBAMA!
Posted by: Keyla, MI | September 14, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
If McCain wins, it means that lies, smears, and distractions tricked the American people AGAIN and they have learned NOTHING from eight years of Bush.
At this rate, we are going to go down as the stupidest super power in history.
Posted by: April | September 14, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Maybe if Joe could perform some miracles like Obama, he would be more popular. He should start small like turning water into wine coolers.
Posted by: Jon | September 14, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Joe Biden needs only to convince voters from his campaign tour. He did not need to court the media who is busying chasing for sensational news. Palin’s effect will just like a cogon fire that will soon die down and everything will go to normal when professionalism and real issues are discussed and debated.
Posted by: Sutter197 | September 14, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
It just seems to me that Biden is just not interested in this campaign, or even in Obama. Why did Obama choose Biden….other than foreign policy experience. These two are like “oil and water”, they just don’t mix…even when you shake them up a bit, they still go back their separate ways. Obama lost this election at Saddleback Church……maybe this election IS “above his paygrade!”
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”
Posted by: david from texas | September 14, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Joe Biden will be blamed but the reality is NOONE approved Obama’s attacks on another woman!
This is the truth!
Obama started loosing the day he attacked Sarah Palin’s daughter!
MSM trapped themselves and Obama by going after Palin!
I was for Obama till than!
Now I support Palin and I will hope to elect the first woman president of the United States in 2012!
H I L L A R Y
Posted by: PA voter | September 14, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Governor Palin has eight years of executive experience blah blah blah
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Another laughable attempt to inflate the Sara Barbie doll. Obama is just pain smarter then Barbie and has a lot more depth of character. Babs should go back to doing what she does best: overseeing the construction of sewage treatment plants in Plaookaville, Alaska.
Posted by: riker | September 14, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Cronyism – hiring people who are less qualified solely on their fierce personal loyalty and friendship, secrecy, disregard for the Constitution, skeptical of science on global warming, extreme personal partisanship and using arms of the executive branch to overstep its authority and further its agenda at all costs. Remember Bush’s greatest hits? “Brownie” at FEMA, Harriet Miers for Supreme Court, Alberto Gonzales as Atty General & the debacle in hiring at Justice, outing Valerie Plame to retaliate against her husband’s right of free speech and criticism of the misinformation about the lead-up to the war & letting Scooter take the rap, the scientific “jury” is still out on global warming, and now the ENTIRE Interior Dept. Guess what – BUSH WASN’T A LAWYER AND ZERO EXPERIENCE IN WASHINGTON. Bush had “executive experience,” too. And everyone agrees he’s really “authentic” – an authentic idiot! Wow – that gave us the last 8 years and where we are now with banks crashing left and right.
I grew up in a small town (Susanville) and I know just how much “executive” experience being mayor requires. And seeing how she uses her executive power is downright troubling.
And McCain has now let his ambition override any notion of honor or integrtiy – airing ads that even Karl Rove says go too far.
Ethics problems also means the abuse of power, blind ambition and disregard of the Constitutional separation of powers and of Church & State.
These are REALLY complicated and dangerous times. We need the A student team – not the bottom of the class, politicallly crafty team. That’s what we had the last 8 years that put us into this mess.
Posted by: Kate Mom of Twins | September 14, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Palin?
yawn…moving on.
Have fun kids. Don’t forget to clean up the mess when you are done in here!
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Joe was Joe Who before Palin showed up. He was Joe Who through the course of the Democratic nominating process, during which time he picked up 1 per cent of the Democrat’s vote. Now Hillary got 50 per cent, so Obama made the wisest possible decision, right?
The Palinator now seems to be toasting Obama and Company. Justice?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 14, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
At this rate, we are going to go down as the stupidest super power in history.
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At this rate, we will CEASE to be a super power in less than ten years. The choice is simple. Either we will be ruled by decency or we will be ruled by the gutter.
Posted by: riker | September 14, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Keith, dear Keith,
Buuuuzzz…WRONG ANSWER. Thank you for playing the game, but you lost.
Posted by: Caroline | September 14, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Tina Fey is too smart to be interested in replacing Palin on a McCain ticket.
Posted by: john Kovacs | September 14, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Palin’s grasp of foreign policy:
1 – Might makes right.
2 – Onward Christian Soldiers…..
3 – I can see Alaska from my window!(Thanks Charlie Gibson!)
Palin exploits anything for political gain – even her children. I’m sure her daughter just loved being paraded at the convention for all to see, and now she has to marry that loser boyfriend.
And how intelligent it was to drag an infant to a noisey convention with the air full of who-knows-what germs!
Palin encourages hunters to shoot game from an airplane. Very sporting of her.
Irregardless of the repeated lies, Palin was very much for the bridge until it became a liability.
Yeah, she’s just what we want for a leader.
Joe Biden has forgotten more than she’ll ever be able to absorb.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | September 14, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Jake who?
Posted by: John Kovacs | September 14, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Kate Mom,
Here’s an example of cronyism: appointment of Jeremiah Wright to the Obama campaign. How much budget was the racist Reverend given? Here’s another example of cronyism: Obama gets free $250,000 on land deal with Rezko. Do you need more examples of real cronyism?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 14, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Biden has to help his boss win
first before he can help him
govern. Biden is not doing it.
To grab media spotlight away
from Palin, Biden has to go
and Hillary should be invited
to join the ticket.
That’ll be a bold, dramatic
decsion. What it means is:
24/7 media coverage
positive publicity from now thru
election day
guaranteed victory in November
for the Dems
Posted by: anon | September 14, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Joe Biden is an experienced good man!
DIRT IS OBAMA!
Posted by: good Joe | September 14, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Cronyism
cro·ny·ism
Pronunciation:
\-nē-ˌi-zəm\
Function: noun
1. partiality to long-standing friends, especially by appointing them to positions of authority, regardless of their qualifications.
2. Something that Barack Obama frequently benefited from in order to elevate his political career.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
I read an article today that told the story of how the sexist Obama campaign, shortly after the primaries, told a group of former Hillary supporters, who were willing to support Obama and rally their troops to support him, if the campaign would promise gender equality on Obama’s Cabinet should he be elected.
Apparently the Obama campaign said they could not agree to the group’s terms because they had doubts as to whether or not there were enough “qualified” women to fill half the Cabinet slots.
They also had the same meeting with McCain, and said McCain listened respectfully to their concerns, and then later picked Sarah Palin as his running mate.
These life-long Democrats are now voting Republican because of the repeated “sexism” of the Obama campaign.
Posted by: Lee | September 14, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Hey anon!
As long as the first lady of hate from Chicago is in charge, unfortunately noone will be able to invite Hillary on the Democratic ticket!
Just get used to it,
McCain/palin 2008!
Posted by: gail | September 14, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Palin needs to release her tax returns.
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Posted by: April | Sep 14, 2008 9:38:24 PM
When one chooses to believe something, it seems one must settle for believing something simple enough that one can understand it. We can at least make an effort though, to hold opinions we had to struggle to understand. And such points as the one made at 9:38:24 PM are so cartoonishly simple that I feel compelled to imagine the writer doesn’t really believe what she’s written. To be effective, it seems even talking points must be conveyed in such a way as to seem to be the real opinions of the writer.
Posted by: Kralizec | September 14, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
If Republicans choose to believe proven lies, should they be allowed to vote anymore?
Posted by: kimbers | September 14, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
The Bush Doctrine? Whacha talkin about Charlie?
hahahahahah
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
These life-long Democrats are now voting Republican because of the repeated “sexism” of the Obama campaign.
Posted by: Lee | Sep 14, 2008 9:50:04 PM
I had seen this article before, and I believe that Obama’s sexist views is at the core of why he is losing this election. I see not only Independents supporting McCain now, but also more women and more younger voters. Obama, himself, is the reason why he is losing. He doesnt seem to be able to think on his own. His flip flops are becoming more rampant and it seems that Axelrod, his main supporter, is becoming less active in the campaign. The debates should be interesting. I hope the moderators have their “A” game on. Obama did not do well in the debates in the primaries and I don’t think he’ll do well in the upcoming debates. Its over for Obama!
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”
Posted by: david from texas | September 14, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
hey Donna,
I agree,
DNC SHOULD ASK oBAMA TO STEP DOWN AND NOMINATE THE FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE!
EVEN IF THEY’D LET BIDEN GO AND PUT HILLARY, IT WOULD NOT DO ANYMORE1
TWO WOMEN VP, IS TO MUCH OF A COPYCOT
Posted by: Shimon FL | September 14, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Who Cares???
Hillary in 2012!!!
Posted by: volboi | September 14, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
McLame doesn’t believe women deserve equal pay for equal work, and he wants to overturn Roe v Wade.
McLame is the sexist!
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
DNC must find a way to get rid of Obama and nominate Hillary at this point
it has nothing to do with Biden!
Posted by: MI will go RED | September 14, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I can’t wait until the VP debate. It could be the most watched program in American history.
Go Sarah!
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
More Obama lies:
Last March, on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Ala., Obama claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement: “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.”
Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965. His spokesman, Bill Burton, later explained that Obama was “speaking metaphorically about the civil-rights movement as a whole.”
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
I demand DNC to ask Obama to step down!
he is not eligible to run for president anyway!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT
HILLARY WILL WIN BY A LANDSLIDE IN 2008
WHY SHOULD WE WAIT 4 MORE YEARS!
Posted by: HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT | September 14, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
“..Mclame is the sexist…”
Yes, that is why McCain pays his female staff members more than Obama pays his.
Posted by: Lee | September 14, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
I think that when Michelle Obama was actively campaigning things were better with the women voters for Obama!
where is she when we need her ?
Posted by: MICHELLE OBAMA | September 14, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Biden said it best, Hillary should be the nominee, as she is a better choice. Also, Biden stated “Obama is not qualified to be president”. Biden stated what everyone knows!
Posted by: John W. | September 14, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
I guess only Obama is allowed to speak “metaphorically” about events that never took place.
Everyone else is a “liar.”
Posted by: Lee | September 14, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
McLame opposes equal pay for equal work. He thinks American women should earn less than men. I will NOT vote for him under any circumstances.
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Chicago Tribune reported this little-noticed nugget about a fake autobiographical detail in Obama’s Dreams from My Father: “Then, there’s the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don’t exist, say the magazine’s own historians.”
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Don’t be fool and don’t blame neither Biden nor Hillary supporters!
The reason Obama is loosing is very simple!
We the Republicans planned this 2 years ago!
In order to beat Hillary, we voted for Obama and got rid of Hillary!
There was NOT such a thing exist Obamacans but you stupid DemocRATS believed on everything!
Keep dreaming that states like CO< NM,MT, IW will go red for you!
You should have nominated Hillary idiot SD's!
Posted by: Obamacan | September 14, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
dl – Your a fool. What is wrong with someone that wants to help our Country and the communities that live here. What the F##k is wrong with someone who believes that helping people that are below the comfortable soccer/hockey Mom, 2500 hundred sq ft house, suv driving, can afford a nose job person. Give me a break!! Have you been Hannitized also?
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Gov. Palin received more votes for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, than Biden received in his run for president!
Go Sarah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Alice in Miami | September 14, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
I can’t wait for the VP debate either. She knows nothing about national security and will say stupid things like “I can see Russia from my house!”
She’s an embarassment!
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Will someone please refer to a specific instance where Obama attacked/ridiculed Palin’s daughter, Bristol? I have seen a few posts that claim that Obama’s campaign was finished after he attacked Bristol. The only thing I have ever heard Obama say on the matter is that families are off-limits and should not be pulled into the campaign the way that Bristol Palin was.
The media focused on this aspect of the story after Palin released a statement about her daughter’s pregnancy. I can understand why you would want to show Palin’s daughter as victimized. But please, get your facts straight. You are confusing the media with Obama personally. You can embellish this information to make your point, but it is not something you can substantiate with fact.
Posted by: ART | September 14, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Lee,
Yes, that is why McCain pays his female staff members more than Obama pays his.
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His all have to be Registered Nurses.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
I love all the posts that claim Palin isn’t qualified.
Biden will have his chance to prove that during the debate. Certainly a 36 year Senator should be able to outdebate a hockey mom who has been Gov. less than 2 years. I mean on paper this is no contest right?
That is the beauty of the upcoming debate. There is no hiding. The truth will be revealed for all to see, one way or the other.
My money is on Palin.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
JA, I think you’re right. How can one tout “change” alongside someone who’s been part of the problem (don’t get me wrong, I like the guy, but I consider every long-standing member of Congress part of the problem) for more than 35 years? With Hillary, I believe the Dems would be far ahead of where they are now.
Posted by: LagunaTriMom | September 14, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Palin did not receive more votes than Biden. That’s just ANOTHER Republican lie.
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
John,
She won’t have the benefit of a smiling bobble-head two-shot, so I’d hedge that if I was you.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
1500 people, which is huge for
sparsely populated Alaska,
protested today in midtown
Anchorage. Protesters said
they reject Palin for Vice
President because she is
unqualified.
Palin’s popularity is
crashing.
Posted by: anon | September 14, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Forget Palin, Forget Hillary,
All whiners sit down unless you are a Republican.
Is this what you are voting on? Really??
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
McCain/Palin 08!
“Country First!”
Posted by: david from texas | September 14, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
McCain walks the talk when it comes to pay for women. Women in his campaign make more then the males on the other hand women in Obama’s campaign make less than men. Hmm. If it looks like a duck ……..
Posted by: Paige | September 14, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Leonard,
She will make good points and then stop. Biden will talk his entire allotted time and ramble.
She will come across very effectively. Also, the image of her vs. Biden will be an effective portrayal of which candidate represents actual “change”.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Anon…where’s your proof? I would like to see a link referencing this.
Posted by: david from texas | September 14, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Thank God, Gov. Palin didn’t attend Obama’s Trinity church for 20 years. In the famous words of Rev. Wright: “G* D* America”. All of the sudden, Gov. Palin looks better and better…
Posted by: martha | September 14, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
During the VP debate, Palin better not be wearing a wire, or have the questions ahead of time. They had better check her.
McLame will do anything to win.
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
jljaguir
I was a DEM until this election. I am so thankful for my time outside of the DNC,. I worked my way through school and grad school w/o a handout. Some of you sound jealous and angry of successful people.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
John,
She will parrot the cue cards for any question that is remotely connected to a possible response and Biden will be relaxed, smiling, friendly and gracious.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Don’t worry, David,
I heard it was more like 200 protestors.
Let’s see, in sparsely populated Alaska, that would probably be the entire 15-20% of the state who do not approve of her, and probably a few of the “good old boy” regime she gave the boot to.
Posted by: Lee | September 14, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
I can’t wait for the VP debate either. She knows nothing about national security and will say stupid things like “I can see Russia from my house!”
She’s an embarassment!
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If you thinks Sarah is an embarrassment you should see Barack Obama during a debate!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Repub. for Obama,
Good point. No Quasimoto bumps this time around.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Biden was picked as VP because he assured Obama, the Russians didn’t invade Georgia, the state, but a country along the border of Russia. Obama, then assured the residents of Alabama, that they were safe.
Posted by: abe | September 14, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Lee,
Nope. I’ve seen the pictures. The were about 3 deep for a block or two up there
in Anchorage.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Leonard,
We will see. Personally, I think the VP debate will decide the election.
I think you underestimate Sarah Palin, but that’s good. I’d rather she go into the debate as the underdog.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
In May, Obama told a Portland crowd that Iran doesn’t “pose a serious threat to us” — cluelessly arguing that “tiny countries” with small defense budgets can’t do us harm — and then promptly flip-flopped the next day, claiming, “I’ve made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave.”
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Senator Biden is emerging as the best candidate in this election…BIDEN for PRESIDENT…Opps I mean Vice President.
Posted by: lanawonders | September 14, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
John,
If Veep decides the future of your country now, we all have bigger problems than we can imagine.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 14, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
There were 1400 anti-Palin women protesting in Anchorage.
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Keith:
Yes, and God forbid Sarah Palin change her mind about an expensive bridge to an island of 50 people, while Obama flip-flops on a national security issue.
Posted by: Lee | September 14, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Palin is unqualified. Alaskans
in increasing numbers are saying
that. There was a mass anti-Palin
rally today in Anchorage.
And Palin is the Governor of
Alaska. Her fortunes are sinking
fast.
Posted by: anon | September 14, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
All partisanship aside, can we all agree that running for president is the most difficult job in the world. The pressure these candidates are under must be enormous. One mistake could potentially alter the course of history.
I’d much rather be here on my computer criticizing them.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Will Palin be wearing a wire during the VP debate? They should check her ears.
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Something I don’t understand is that we hear nothing about John McCain anymore. It is like Sarah is running for President against Senator Obama. Why has the media shifted away from the actual candidate?
Posted by: farmingnow | September 14, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
To PaulStewart9… Obama should be blowing McC out of the water by now with a lead of 20+%. Where is the slam dunk?
Posted by: Oliver | September 14, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Wow, the left wing liberals are so mad at Palin, I guess if she would have have wanted socialism they would love her!
Posted by: tim | September 14, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Obama keeps saying he wants a debate on the issues. LOL!
A guy who chickened out the debates with Hillary Clinton, and is still in hiding from the townhall debates proposed by McCain.
He will only agree to a debate where the moderators ask his opponent first, and he can use a teleprompter.
Posted by: Rob | September 14, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Can someone tell me one thing… ONE thing that Obama has sponsored in his time in the Senate that has passed? I checked and the only thing I can find is recognition of the Chicago White Sox’s winning the World Series. He has been in the Senate since January 2005 and announced his candidacy for President in May of 2007, a little over two years; where is his experience? Heck, I’ll even take something he did in his time in the Illinois senate; there is nothing of substance; except for voting ‘present’ a majority of the time. That is NOT leadership! Where has he truly stuck his neck out? There this is Biden; excuse me but how many times has he ran for President, 3, 4; I lost count; and did he ever make it to the convention as the nominee? NO.. Any guesses as to why? Because he is NOT qualified!
Contrast this to John McCain; let’s leave his military leadership and POW record out of it for now. His bipartisan leadership as evident in the McCain-Feingold campaign reform act; why do you think it is called the McCAIN-Feingold; he was the leader reaching across party lines to do the right thing. Regardless of your stance on the war; his leadership and pushing for the surge to end this war early and save lives was the right thing to do.
I am tired of the press and the uninformed public thinking that Obama is our savior; even his supporters have said that ‘remember, Jesus was a community organizer and Ponchas Pilot was a governor’, what are they trying to say? If you feel that Palin isn’t qualified to be VP based on her perceived lack of experience; then you HAVE to dismiss Obama lack of experience to be President; no question.
Simply put Palin is more qualified to be VP then Obama is to be President.
Posted by: Todd | September 14, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Re: “Stealing you tax dollars? You guys pay taxes?”
Take an economics class. You obviously don’t understand what’s going on with the economy. Indy Mac, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, and now Washington Mutual. We’re on the verge of another Great Depression you idiot. You can blame deregulation–courtesy of the GOP.
Go back to watching Nascar…
Posted by: carrie | September 14, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
So that must be why Obama needs to raise 66 million, air fare and per diem for all of those protestors to get to Alaska must have cost a pretty penny………
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That was a good one Lee!!!
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 14, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Biden has been a great disappointment. To add insult to injury, his recent totally irrelevant quip that Obama should have picked Hillary as running mate did not help, nor will it help to energize the base. Yet, Biden campaigned so actively to get the Obama pick him as a running mate. He has not made a narry comment that is helpful about Sarah Palin; instead, he has made a couple of gaffe’s already. The one in which he refrred to “my administration” is eye-popping, and says so much about the man. But it is too late to get him out of the way–even when he is turning out to be an embarrassment!
Posted by: Dr. Sam | September 14, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
I believe that Obama is the second coming of JC!
Not Jesus Christ, Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: Kevin | September 14, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Where’s the story about the 1400 Alaskan women who demonstrated today AGAINST Sarah Palin? I believe that was more than attended the pro-Palin rally there a couple of days ago. And Oliver, no one is going to win by 20 percentage points. No President has won by any significant margin in living memory, and the current President didn’t actually even win the first time.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
John – you are right! I just had my hair dyed today. Being President and VP of the United States of America is a job that is unbelievably hard with the way the media is today. Please watch the debates coming up. Vote who you think is MOST qualified to run our Country. Not what goes on in the media. Please everybody, pay attention!!!! This election is so important.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
anon wrote: “Palin is unqualified. Alaskans in increasing numbers are saying
that. There was a mass anti-Palin rally today in Anchorage.
And Palin is the Governor of Alaska. Her fortunes are sinking fast.”
I suppose with 30 of Obama’s finest lawyers, they are finding a few to say something bad about her, while waving $$ about. With an 86 percent approval rating, it does mean there are a few who don’t like her.
But then again there are 100′s millions who don’t like Obambi.
Posted by: mndasher | September 14, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
And all of you McCainiacs had better watch out with the “Obama thinks he was sent by God” rhetoric, before the media starts reporting that it is actually Sarah Palin (as a result of her religious background) who believes she has been chosen by God.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
It is sad, the VP choice of the republican party gets the attention of the Oprah/Bama media. Now, they comapre the VP choice with the presidential choice of the dems. Why, McCain is the clear leader in leadership, and Gov. Palin is more qualified than Obama. Doesn’t say much for the losercrats. Don’t forget “Biden who”, you know, whats his name…
Posted by: Baron | September 14, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
The Obama brand of Democrat only gets really energized when fighting a woman.
They directed the most vicious attacks and vitriol to Sen. Clinton, and now they totally freaked out with Gov. Palin.
What’s wrong with these idiots?
Posted by: Rob | September 14, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Poor Barry, maybe it’s time to go back to the temple of doom in Denver, erect those fake columns, and give one of those really big speeches that don’t really say anything (but cost his supporters a lot of money).
Posted by: Nobama | September 14, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Well the press will do what it will do. But the press has to understand that it’s influence in politics, thus the National discourse will suffer, in the end from it’s lack of proper coverage.
There is a responsibility involved here that the press has seemed unable or unwilling to accept.
We all lose in this, so why are you pointing this out? Is it a slam against Biden, Obama, or some sort of smugness on your part?
DO YOUR JOB!
Posted by: Thinking | September 14, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
All that money. The hype of his world tour. Invesco Field. A GOP president that most Republicans can’t stomach.Why is Obama not able to seal the deal? He is too liberal, too aloof, too condescending. He has a wife that early on in his campaign seemed happy to paint America as slovenly, down-right mean. The Wright fiasco. The lapel pin controversy, i.e., patriotic issues. “Exotic” upbringing. Bypassing the most qualified VP he could have ever picked, Senator Clinton. There are just too many people who can’t get past their lingering doubts that he just isn’t the right person to lead America.
Posted by: Mark | September 14, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Please everybody go to Meet the Press and watch Thomas Friedman. Country First!!!! Country First!!!!
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
If Alaskans don’t like her,
that’s not good for the
Republican ticket in the
Lower 48.
Palin is now a liability
not an asset for the Republicans.
Posted by: anon | September 14, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
jljaguir
Well said.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Have you been seeing the news on Palin. BAD. She’s a cheat and a liar. If she’s elected, her whole family will be running the county. God help us! Look at the economy, everything is falling apart. 4 more years of republicans, and that’s it. We will part of Russia or China.
Posted by: disgusted | September 14, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Hey Concerned, according to the US census bureau, there are approximately 670000 people in Alaska. Of those, approximately 300,000 are female. Of those, only about 70% or 210,000 are over the age of 18 (and therefore women). Drawing 1400 women out of a total population of 210,000 is pretty amazing.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
She has an 86% approval rating as Governor. The highest in the nation.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
I seen the mass demonstration against Gov. Palin in Alaska. About 200 in attendance, as stated by law enforcement. The Obama lawyers and investigaters were busy. I do remember the thousands that greeted her when she returned to Alaska, to be with her son, before he shipped out to Iraq. Gov. Palin has a 86% favorable rating, Obama could only dream of this acceptance by real people!
Posted by: BR549 | September 14, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
The Biden/Obama team is on a severe downslope. Can be compared to a submarine headed down and unable to raise its nose. Goodbye Biden and Obama.
Posted by: roger king | September 14, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
History will look at this election and conclude that it was not Palin who cost Obama the election. No, he should have been up by 20% long before she came on the scene. History will look evil straight in the face and tell Michelle Obama that it was her. She alone has cost him the election with her hate filled comments. No wonder they have her in hiding.
Posted by: History | September 14, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Hey BR you “seen” it. Law enforcement’s been releasing those crowd numbers to the McCain camp again, have they? Funny, they never seem to remember doing that, and there are 140 pages of photographs or so that contradict your estimate.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
There were 1400 hundred women protesting against Palin. This scares the right wing so they will play down the numbers.
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
One thing for certain: whomever wins, there is at least going to be family involved in the war in Iraq instead of sitting along the side. It makes you want to look closer at a war when your own family is involved.
Posted by: farmingnow | September 14, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Joe Biden is an excellent pick for VP candidate, and he will shine during the debate. The McCain/Palin campaign might have just hit the high water mark. The news about what’s going on in Wall Street is only going to hurt them, and McCain’s lies will catch up to him sooner or later.
Posted by: Andres | September 14, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Hey Dee Dee – No one said that ALL of the people at this rally were Alaskan’s. Read Obmaha implants; because he does have the money!
Posted by: Todd | September 14, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Sarah is Pale-In comparison. The american people are smarter than this.
Look at what Alan Greenspan had to say today… that the economy is literally at a crisis point.
I think that the media is doing the whole country a HUGE disservice by playing along with this circus for an election.
Vote for McCain and you get the same as Bush.
Lies. Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Huge lies from McPale-in comparison… at just about every event they hold.
THE MEDIA SHOULD BE ON THEM LIKE CRAZY FOR THEIR LIES.
Every story should be setting the record straight when they keep uttering the same lies to the people. Good for the media that has done this so far.
WHERE IS THE NEWS STORY ON THE PROTEST IN ALASKA?
Posted by: Lindsay | September 14, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
what…you want her to hire foes and lash friends?
Posted by: unclesmrgol | September 14, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Andres,
The VP debate may very well decide the election. Certainly on paper it looks like no contest right? A 36 year senator who debates everyday should be able to easily prevail over a Gov. who has been in office less than 2 years.
That’s the beauty of it. I think in our hearts we don’t believe that.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Andres – Your comment of ‘Joe Biden is an excellent pick for VP candidate’ is laughable. Because as you say ‘Joe Biden is an excellent pick for VP candidate’ BUT not a President; right? I mean he’s ran 3 or 4 times and NEVER came close. Hmmm why is that…
Posted by: Todd | September 14, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
I can find no approval ratings for her since 2006. Many governors are popular when they first take office. I believe one of the Alaska newspapers estimated it is currently 20 or so points lower and falling.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
1400 hundred women?
That’s one fifth of Alaska’s population. They must have flown in a few from the lower 48.
Posted by: unclesmrgol | September 14, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Palin must have the liberals really worried – otherwise why would they be spending so much time covering and attacking her instead of the guy at the top of the ticket. Have not heard much from the republicans on Joe Biden – the republicans are spending their energy on attacking Obama. So who is smarter? Democrats attacking a self-made hard working VP candidate with a great family and outlook on life or repbulicans who are attacking a Presidential candidate with little experience and some questionable alliances? Keep attacking Satah Palin because the poll numbers keep going up for the republicans!! Liberals always to to far and it bites them in the backside.
Posted by: ms1236 | September 14, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Joe – you are a nice guy – but – you are on the losing team. Sorry DEMS – but Millions of American people now know who the best team to lead our country is – McCain/Palin – and that is how we will VOTE.
Posted by: Molly | September 14, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
People in the USA will we vote with our emotions and BIAS? Please do not forget what is going on in our current administration. Please do not let Karl Rove and the lobbyist in Washington tell us what to think. Please do not be hannitized. Get Educated. WE have the internet! Watch the debates coming up! Is your livelihood better? Is our Country better off? Is our Country on this planet better than everybody else?
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Obama is now in a two front war, and that is a bad position to be in.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
What a pathetic situation, I feel sorry to the American media and Democratic Party combined to stop this woman Sarah Palin. They did it with Hilary. I don’t think that will work with Palin, she is smart and sharp. Obama/Biden seems very desperate and hopeless. He almost lost the show.
God bless Macain/Palin. God bless America
Posted by: Jessica | September 14, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
What a pathetic situation, I feel sorry to the American media and Democratic Party combined to stop this woman Sarah Palin. They did it with Hilary. I don’t think that will work with Palin, she is smart and sharp. Obama/Biden seems very desperate and hopeless. He almost lost the show.
God bless Macain/Palin. God bless America
Posted by: Jessica | September 14, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Obama is much less qualified than Mccain. Palin is much less qualified than Biden.
The frightful thing is who is to be president? Obama without experience does not have to listen to Biden. As Vice President Biden can be a non-entity. Palin has to follow McCain for as long as he lives since he will call the shots.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other – absolutely no difference – maybe just one difference – who gets into the starting block FIRST, no experience Obama or experienced McCain.
REMEMBER Obama is running for President NOT Palin.
Posted by: Kaydee | September 14, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Jessica, you feel sorry “to” the American public? Where are you posting from?
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
>>>>>>> Dee Dee Lynn
Hey BR you “seen” it. Law enforcement’s been releasing those crowd numbers to the McCain camp again, have they? Funny, they never seem to remember doing that, and there are 140 pages of photographs or so that contradict your estimate.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | Sep 14, 2008 10:45:43 PM
————————————
You failed to mention the busloads of people that was bused-in, the buses were paid for by the Obama/DNC, the party of deceit.
Posted by: Sara J in AK | September 14, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
I have been told that Fox News is the ONLY unbiased news. OK. What do you think. I for one thought Charlie Gibson could be trusted just like Walter Cronkite. Is is true that Fox News in the only unbiased media reporting now? Is Hannity the only one that speaks the truth?
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Obama was born in Hawaii.
McCain was born in Panama.
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
HISTORY, when was the last time a US President won an election by 20%? Can you tell me, so that I may understand where you arrived at this conclusion? Or are you merely suggesting that the current President is so completely incompetent that if the public were sane and reasonable, they would never elect another Republican? If that is the case, I would point out that approximately 40% of the public are Republicans, and they vote for Republicans even when it is abundantly clear they are incompetent, which makes a 20 point margin possible, but unlikely.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
You can tell when the Repubs are getting scared because they start saying that rosary of theirs, praying to be rescued from the forces of Progress.
Speaking in tongues, like Sarah Palin.
Sputtering lies like John McCain.
IT WON’T HELP. CHANGE IS COMING.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08!! AMERICA FIRST!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 14, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Sara J, where is your proof of this? Is this like the team of lawyers that the DNC ostensibly sent to Alaska that did not exist? By the way, did you know that I am really Joan of Arc? You see, saying something doesn’t make it so.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
How many years are “taken away” from a person’s life while being President? Then you figure in the poor health and stress from being a POW. . . maybe the election is between Obama and Palin?
Posted by: farmingnow | September 14, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Keep trying to convince America that McCain is stupid. While growing up McCain attended 20 different schools because his Navy father kept moving from one military base to another. Even while in the Naval Academy McCain was a “maverick” – a member of the Century Club – earning membership with 100 demerits. In McCain’s case, unshined shoes, talking in formation, being out of formation etc. – McCain thought most of military protocol was Bull—-. McCain did well in subjects that he liked such as government. But yeah, McCain graduated sixth from the bottom of his class. Despite his mediocre GPA McCain was known as a strong leader which explains why he had advanced to Lt Commander when his plane went down over Hanoi. McCain went in an Ensign and retired as a Captain and a highly respected leader.
Look up Einstein’s academic record
As for Bush’s IQ, by now you should be aware that Bush has a higher SAT score than Kerry, and a higher GPA than Kerry while both men attended Yale. There is also the little matter of earning a MBA at Harvard. Harvard is full of rich men’s sons and there is little favoristism shown. As an example, Ted Kennedy was expelled from Harvard when he was caught cheating on a Spanish exam.
Posted by: JRinLA | September 14, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
jljaguir
Sadly, FOXnews is the only unbiased source of information from the mainstream media.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
By the way, I have a very expensive education and a certified IQ of 168. I carry this quote around with me on my Blackberry, and read it daily:
Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘Press On’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.
Calvin Coolidge
30th president of US (1872 – 1933)
If anybody embodies persistence, it’s McCain.
Posted by: JRinLA | September 14, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Well thanks for the post. All the Blogs are asking where Joe is. Now we know. Two words. Sarah Palin. He can’t be seen or read about unless the media is with him. Just more bias.
Posted by: Outsider looking in | September 14, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
McCain and Palin both say that they are going to change Washington. But McCain has been in Washington for 26 years, and agreed with Bush 90 percent of the time during the last 8 years. Change from McCain never came. Palin is a conservative. But conservative and change are opposites.
Voting for McCain and Palin is more of the same.
Posted by: mere | September 14, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
I have an IQ of 174 and carry this quote around in my head:
HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 14, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
JR in LA that was BEAUTIFUL!!!! I agree with you. That is why I like John McCain.
I call his race against Obama the tortoise and the hare.
Posted by: Samantha | September 14, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
And there’s a lot of speculation that McCain won’t run a for second term. I hope that’s not true, but if so, there’s always:
PALIN/JINDAL ’12
Posted by: JRinLA | September 14, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
As my posts throughout the day prove, it is easier to repeat a lie…as if in the halls of high school…than it is to prove and get printed what is actually true.
The press would rather follow than lead.
Posted by: kravitz | September 14, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
April-
If McCain wins, it simply means he received 270+ electoral votes.
A problem of the more zealous democrats (such as yourself) over the last fews years has been to belittle those who choose to vote republican – calling them stupid, or ignorant. Before this election is over, you may very well be calling them bigots as well.
If I vote for McCain, it is NOT because I have been tricked or lied to, and it will not be because I am stupid. It will be because I have applied the full measure of my heart, my intellect and my life experience to this very important decision. I expect nothing less from you or any of our other fellow voters.
Posted by: Kevin | September 14, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
JR in LA – That makes you an expert right? I am going to listen to you because you have that in your blackberry? Well thats Country First.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Oh Jr, that’s such a McCain camp talking point. It has already been posted a few times tonight. Seriously, you guys should really try to think independently. Oh I guess that might affect party affiliation.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Joe seems like a really good VP canidate. He has as much experience as McCain, but has never been corrupted. He makes less than any other Senator in the Union, although still a healthy sum. I find it admirable that he went into politics by the age of 29 and has been involved in no shaddy politics and does not seem to have a record of lying. He seems like a good guy.
Posted by: tm | September 14, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Kaydee,
Obama has plenty of time served as an elected representative. He has a background in constitutional law. He has been schooled for the past 4 years in foreign relations by some of the senate experts, including Republica, and he has been studying with the Center for Foreign Policy, one of the foremost foreign policy think tanks in the world. He has even himself been invited to speak there. Of course, to know this, you have to have been paying attention for more than the past 30 minutes, and you have to derive your information from somewhere other than the McCain campaign.
OBAMA HAS BEEN SO ON THE MARK WITH HIS FOREIGN POLICY OBJECTIVES THAT WE NOW SEE W SCRAMBLING TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT THESE OBJECTIVES BEFORE THEY LEAVE OFFICE SO THEY CAN TRY TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THEM. Obama said begin withdrawing troops from Iraq. Bush announces troop withdrawals from Iraq. Obama said we should negotiate with Iran. Bush wants to negotiate with Iran. Obama said send more troops to Afghanistan. Bush is sending more troops to Afghanistan. Obama said we should go into Pakistan to go after the Taliban if the Pakistanis don’t. Bush sends our guys into Pakistan AND THE ORDER FOR THAT CAME JUST DAYS AFTER OBAMA STATED IT SHOULD BE DONE.
Sounds qualified to me.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
“Joe seems like a really good VP canidate. He has as much experience as McCain, but has never been corrupted.”
CAN YOU SAY MBNA?
Posted by: Samantha | September 14, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
JRinLA
That is my favorite quote! Persistence is everything. I’m glad you posted it. I was actually thinking it defined Sarah Palin. I see a pitbull determination in her that I haven’t seen in anyone else. That is one of the reasons she is going to be so successful.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
John – Have you listed to Hannity on the radio? he blasts daily for many people to hear. He has his own show on FOXnews. The #1 news station listened to in all America. Because they tell it like it is.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
John – I can spell. I do not know why when I post it mis-spells everything.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Thanks, Samantha. Welcome back.
Posted by: JRinLA | September 14, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Say NO to McPalin!
Posted by: Republicans for Obama | September 14, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
jljaguir,
I didn’t say Sean Hannity was unbiased, but he is counterbalanced by Alan Combs on FOXnews. They do a very good job of presenting both sides of every issue. I’m sure that is why their ratings are going through the roof. People really don’t want propaganda, they want information.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Stop talking about Palin! Just focus on the issues. The media is helping Palin unintentionally with so much coverage of her. Let her dig her own hole once the debates start, she won’t stand a chance. Ohhh, wait… maybe she will since most people fall for those generic “patriotic” speeches that she and Bush do so well.
Posted by: AlomaGirl | September 14, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Ed – Your comments are laughable…. tell me who married the Obama’s and was their spritial leader for over 20 years; oh yeah that honorable american Rev. Wright!
Posted by: Todd | September 14, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Oh very funny Samantha, so funny. Can you spell Keating 5? That was a pretty big con, no?
What about all those lobbyists on his campaign team? They are a bunch of cons no?
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
McCain/Palin ’08 We need a strong America, and the values brought forth by these candidates ARE very different. McCain/Palin are for this Country, Family and good Christian Faith based values. The other candidate, who is he??, shows, does and says just the opposite. Why are people even considering this self-destruction?
McCain/Palin ’08
McCain/Palin ’08– for sanity
McCain/Palin ’08 — for Integrity
McCain/Palin ’08 —– FOR AMERICA!!
Posted by: freethought4u | September 14, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Thanks, John. I posted it because you can’t read a thread like this without fawning posts praising Obama’s acedemic achievements and belittling all who don’t share his Ive League education. They will, in the same post, call Bush an idiot with his advanced degree from the same Harvard Obama attended. He just got his MBA because he’s a Bush – a slander upon every degree issued by Harvard.
Einstein was a terrible student, so were many great leaders. I don’t want an acedemic debating society running the country in a real crisis. I want a leader.
Posted by: JRinLA | September 14, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Oh Todd, let’s revisit religion. Yes, let’s. I want a THOROUGH investigation into what has been preached in Sarah Palin’s two churches, and to what she herself may have said there. Won’t you please have them put all those sermons back up online for everyone to see?
I really also want to see her current pastor explain AGAIN how he agrees with everything David Brickner said in his church in August, and how he would have them back again.
Then, let’s have Sarah give a speech explaining her association to those churches, just like Obama did. That would be great wouldn’t it?
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Hey everybody, let’s all get together and stop dealing with corporations so they won’t have any income to avoid paying taxes on. Obama gets to pick what we keep, and the rest have to wither on the vine and die. Let’s hope he keeps the ISPs so we can do this. Which computer maker are we keeping? I can’t wait till Obama gets in there and takes on these big bad businesses. I’m not capable of letting the free market make these companies rich. I need somebody to regulate how I spend my money because I don’t trust myself not to give money to corporations. I’m in denial about the part I play in my financial misery. I need to go put air in my new car’s tires just like Obama told me since that’s something I don’t ever think to do anyway.
Posted by: Kitty | September 14, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
I know – academic.
Posted by: JRinLA | September 14, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
John – Have you listened to Hannity on the radio? I don’t in all honestly know how he is on his television show but on the radio he is radical and ridiculous.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
I think I praised the substance of Obama’s education, not the schools he went to. There is no substance to Ws education. I know someone personally who had one of the Bush brothers in his class at a major university (which one shall remain nameless in order to protect the innocent). Failed the class. Professor was begged by Bush parents to let said Bush boy retake final exam. Said Bush was given same exam (exact same exam) AGAIN and failed AGAIN. Real geniuses in that family and the record in the White House proves it.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
jljaguir,
He is very opinionated on the radio. Similiar to how he is on TV.
Well, better get to bed. Nice talking with everyone.
Posted by: John | September 14, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
I would be embarrassed for Senator Biden to have the kind of disgraceful information out there about him that Gov. Palin does. Unfortunately, such a person often makes better news, particularly as the whole world has been wondering what McCain could have been thinking with this unqualified and corrupt choice. Give me a hard-working VP who is not surrounded by scandal and extremism any day. Apparently, the Republican party could not find anything amiss to allege about him. Governor PAlin? There is more scandal and corruption revealed every day. You can spin that any way you want, but it will not mean anything good for America.
Posted by: iamwomaninMI | September 14, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Stop giving Palin so much ammo. You keep giving her so much free publicity, who is the celebrity Rock Star?
now. She does not have my vote. She is too cocky and too show off for me and a big mouth with lipstick.
My Vote: Obama/Biden 2008
Posted by: mary | September 14, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Well kiddies, its been fun (well not fun) but I don’t get paid for this so I am back to my real life. I keep hoping maybe just one of you will actually say something substantive, fact-based, and relevant regarding McCain and Palin, but alas, it never happens, talking points, ad hominem arguments, and made up accusations. McCain may win, but if he does, it will be, as chaos theory asserts, because human beings are NOT rational actors, rather they are completely IRRATIONAL even if it is in predictable ways (which make them susceptible to Rovian manipulation).
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
“I wonder how Palin’s resume stacks up against John Edwards?”
Maybe she didn’t have a child with a lover outside of the marriage?
Posted by: Mary | September 14, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
I am an Australian and was getting worried the american people were not seeing sarah for who she is. Using a bit of humour Saturday Night LIVE NAILED IT. Please america vote someone in with judgement and know how. “Australians for OBAMA”
Posted by: cowboycowboy2005 | September 14, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Dee Dee – I’m sorry I must have missed the news release that Palin was running for President like the second coming Obama is. Are you upset with Palin becasue she believes in God and has never had an abortion?
Posted by: Todd | September 14, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
mary, i think she’s very attractive. she’s the kind of gal that a lot of women and men like. i don’t mean to be too critical of obama, but since you just made comments about palin, i’ll go ahead and give you my two cents. obama isn’t manly. he’s not a man’s man. palin is a man’s woman and mccain is a man’s man. for people on the fence, that might just be the way they are thinking too. when neccessary, i’d like to see palin attending state funerals and i’d be happy to eventually see her sitting behind her desk in the oval office. and so would a lot of men. obama … not so much.
Posted by: Kitty | September 14, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Where is Pelosi? Where is Feinstein? Where is Boxer? Why are all these elected women standing silent on Palin? Why is everyone looking to Hillary to carry the ball after she was dissed by Obama and the liberal wing of the Democratic Party? What a bunch of wusses. It looks like Obama may now lose due to the Palinator.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 14, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
I have aged again reading some of these ignorant posts. I am done. I love my Country but I am done. I will vote for who I think will help our Country – THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I am done watching all news media (especially Shawn Hannity). Please everybody – watch the debates! Vote for the most qualified candidate.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 14, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Oh Todd, you are determined to keep me from having a life. Funny thing, you know, I believe in God and have never had an abortion. And actually I don’t personally believe in abortion. Does that qualify me to be VP? (and your comment was another ad hominem–well except that’s a sexist term I guess, should be ad feminem).
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 14, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Who is this Sarah Palin? All we really know about her is where she was born, where she went to school (from gradeschool to college – all of them), she’s only been married once, has 5 kids (one with special needs, one in the army, and one with child who is also now engaged), she served on the PTA, she was the mayor of Wasilla, AK for 6 years, she chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (OGCC), and she has been the Governor of Alaska for the past 2 years. She works from home not the capitol, she initiated a corruption investigation at the OGCC, she requests per diem when traveling and takes her family with her sometimes. We know her stance on abortion – Pro Life, the military – Pro Military, the economy – Lower taxes/smaller government, energy – drill here, drill now, foreign policy – speak softly and carry a big stick, government – of the people, for the people, religion – She is religious.
When are we going to get to know the REAL Sarah Palin???
Posted by: Jeremy | September 14, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
lol, jake, joe who? you are so right. even when the blog is about him, it’s not.
Posted by: Kitty | September 14, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
“…three dozen followed Sarah Palin’s every move, each one wondering if the woman who would be a heartbeat away from the presidency will ever brave their ranks to answer questions.”
Heh. Maybe she would, if the press were as eager to pounce on Obama’s gaffes as they are eager to bring her down. You know, ask pretty much the same questions, be just as harsh in condemning “incorrect” answers. After all, Obama is at the TOP of the Dem ticket. And wow…we haven’t heard much from the media about the smell of corruption in the Biden clan, have we? Must be the lack of reporters in his entourage. Yep, that’s it.
Posted by: Doug | September 14, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
The partisanship in American politics is hilarious. Especially from the liberal side…the childishness is breath-taking.
Great stuff watching the Left out-do themselves with stupid comments trying to denigrate the lady.
Posted by: Canuck1955 | September 14, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Mary,
You are basing your vote on the fact that Palin wears lipstick? Makes you stop and think though. We don’t really know whether Obama puts on lipstick behind closed doors do we? That makes about as much sense as your statement. Rather superficial don’t you think?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 14, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Cowboycowboy in Australia,
Sadly, you are relying on the heavily biased MSM for information. I love Sarah Palin. I have no qualms about her at all. But then, I am not relying on the leftist media for my information.
Posted by: Glynn | September 14, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Wow kitty, I always wondered how Republicans decided who to vote for, thanks for explaining it to me. Instead of listening to the issues, they are having cartoon bubble thoughts about who would look best behind the President’s desk. Sounds like you’re having yourself a nice little fantasy about Palin there.
Posted by: mila | September 14, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
By the way, I just re-read Jake’s article. The Obama campaign claims that Biden was not a cynical pick, to win the election. I have to agree. Biden was a cynical pick designed by Obama to do anything to avoid picking Hillary Clinton. Is that the action of a leader?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 14, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Ed…Ed…Ed… Liar? Please which Joe Biden is lying the VP candidate we see today or this one?
ON MCCAIN:
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”
Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who…”
On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”
Posted by: Todd | September 14, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
PS. To all those saying that voting for McCain/Palin is irrational and voting for Obama/Biden is the only logical choice (you know who you are). Just because someone doesn’t share your opinions about certain issues doesn’t make them irrational. While I applaud your attempts at intellectual superiority it really only adds unnecessary background noise for those of us trying to have an honest debate.
Posted by: Jeremy | September 14, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
IF you had her record of EXECUTIVE leadership; with the experience of making decisions the ‘ruffle’ the feathers of the establishment, even your own party; standing up for what is right. Then who knows you might be qualified to be VP. Heck, you might even be qualified to be the liberal democratic candidate for president… IF you (or Obama) had ANY experience like that!
Posted by: Todd | September 15, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
oh no, cyncr. we know john mccain made a fabulous choice in palin, and amoungst ourselves, we talk about him all the time. we talk about the fabulous choice. we snicker. we don’t care what the media and others think or don’t think of our hero. and we vote en masse.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
JOE BIDEN
BIGGEST VP BUST SINCE GERALDINE FERRARO
MCCAIN/PLAIN ’08-’12
Posted by: The End | September 15, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
ind. voter for mccain: i know! while the oblahblahblahs were talking about how bad Hillary ran her campaign and her debt, i kept asking myself if they ever thought about how poorly obama was running his campaign if all the money couldn’t seal the deal. they just think differently i guess. obama is now asking for more change. his new slogan is :change we need change.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Just zipped through these posts.
Don’t you people have work to do.
Posted by: LaPlante | September 15, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
jljaguir,
“Have you listened to Hannity on the radio? I don’t in all honestly know how he is on his television show but on the radio he is radical and ridiculous.”
He has been cited by non-partisan fact check organizations as a liar and a bigot. His ratings are way up because, like Limbaugh, he talks like he’s an authority on facts but spews the fictions of his own little world. His callers mostly allow him to tell them what to think and say and they walk away believing they’ve stated their own opinion. It is very cult-like and erie.
I hope the first thing that whoever becomes president does in office is force the FCC to do its job with regard to using the airwaves to spew racist hatred. Freedom of speech is one thing, but Hannity, Levin, Planke and Limbaugh make up lies, tell racist and sexist jokes and do all sorts of other illegal things to throw elections. Freedom of speech is not a license to spew hatred and propaganda.
WMAL radio, which is where Hannity and the rest of the “conservative” opinion “movers and shakers” air, has a consistent them throughout most of its broadcasts. They repeat the broadcasters opinion over and over in many different styles during each call. At first I thought it was to fill air-space, but then I realized that they commentary is very much like hypnotism (which is illegal without consent).
I caught one of their investment shows today. While I previously thought that the hypnotic patterns were only employed by the political pundits of WMAL, I found today that the same pattern of repititious verbage was evident by the financial host. I conclude that this style of propaganda must be a WMAL practice.
Alert their advertisers if you agree that they are abusing the airwaves and spewing lies and hatred. That’s what I do.
Swiftboating is not cool.
Obama 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
mila why did you wonder? i never care why democrats pick their candidates. i think you secretly want to be a republican. is that what’s in your thought bubble?
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
The republicans have had there fun, but now it’s time to get back to the truth again. A place where McCain and Palin fail.
Posted by: The Unshrub | September 15, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
OBAMA: Hillary? Bill? Hillary? Hi, it’s, it’s, it’s me, me, me Barack. I’m so, so, sorry to wake you, but, but, but I gotta ask you a fa, fa, favor…HEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!
Posted by: The End | September 15, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
From what I understand, ABC edited the Palin interview in a biased manner. On the Russian question, here is part of what was missing:
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
Posted by: Erika | September 15, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
outsider looking in; Thank you for your post. I will carry it on my iphone. I will read it every day!
Posted by: smike | September 15, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Commonsense, so what other rights do you want trampled?
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
My previous post was in reply to a comment by A Guy Named Keith.
Posted by: Erika | September 15, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Common Sense – Please let me know how I can help to stop this!!! They are dividing our Country in HATE. I for one feel guilty when I listened to it because I feel I am helping their ratings. IT IS RIDICULOUS!!! How many Americans listen to this crap every day???
Posted by: jljaguir | September 15, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
jljag, there’s this lil button on the television ….
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Common Sense – I will call the radio stations. But, money talks. They are brainwashing this Country into HATE. United We Stand, Divided We Fall. I am one individual that will not be hannitized!!!!!
Posted by: jljaguir | September 15, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
WestCoastMessenger,
“Biden was a cynical pick designed by Obama to do anything to avoid picking Hillary Clinton. Is that the action of a leader?”
Do you really believe that the man that is more qualified (based on Hillary’s criteria), should be passed over in order to give a woman the opportunity. Ludicrous!
Oh yeah, Biden used to studder but overcame it. Maybe Obama genuinely admires his ability to overcome personal obstacles like he, himself had to do. Good leaders start by battling the demons within as opposed to gaining external approval and popularity.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Kitty – That little button is called ignorance.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 15, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
jljag, mine’s called on/off and and i have this thing i can point at my television that leads to the same result.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
When the Presidential candidate refuses to part company with the VP candidate, it is clear trouble is brewing! Tapper and friend wonder “if the woman who would be a heartbeat away from the presidency will ever brave their ranks to answer questions.” Given McCain’s brush with cancer and his advanced age, his selection of Palin makes it plain that for for the new McCain election comes first and country second, not the other way around.
Palin’s selection may appear to be a home run now, but could very well turn out be a foul ball after review over the next few weeks.
Posted by: saif1028 | September 15, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
saif, your goal is to get palin supporters to your side. you are not doing a very good job.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
jljaguir,
“Common Sense – Please let me know how I can help to stop this!!! They are dividing our Country in HATE. I for one feel guilty when I listened to it because I feel I am helping their ratings. IT IS RIDICULOUS!!! How many Americans listen to this crap every day???”
I, too, had to grapple with that, but you’d be surprised how many people that refuse to be hannitized listen to them. Keep you enemies close, they say. All I can suggest is to jot down their advertisers and send the advertisers an email voicing your complaint that they have advertised with hate spewers. Most of them have a “contact us” link on their website and some of them list email for the big-wigs at their companies. Also send your complaints to the FCC.
Another thing that I find handy (since there is power in numbers) is to request of your friends and family that they, too, send emails to WMAL’s advertisers and cc the FCC.
Good luck.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
The reason Biden is not having the ranting
publicity is because everyone including the
media is trying to take a crash course called
Palin 101, in which her life story and political
views are being created as I type. Karl Rove
associates are so busy molding their perfect
model, at such a fast pace that she is toasted
on the outside but not even cooked on the inside.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 15, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Kitty – I am glad that you have an on/off switch. But if you actually want to have your own opinion, I suggest you use that button and turn it off in your home and your radio in your car.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 15, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
kitty, you are wrong. I never tried to bring palin supporters to my side, because I don’t need them!
Posted by: saif1028 | September 15, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
saif1028,
“his selection of Palin makes it plain that for for the new McCain election comes first and country second, not the other way around.”
I really believe he’s have a late mid-life crisis. If not, Rove has alerted him that the votes are fixed and he can do whatever he wants and won’t have to worry about a win. He’s been selected.
Meanwhile, Obama picked up 500,000 new small-doner campaign contributors and the polls “suggest” McCain is gaining ground. Sun-ting smells fowl!
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Common Sense – That is a suggestion I find most helpful. I will (for the first time ever) actually voice my opinion to this insult on our intelligence as an American Citizen of the UNITED States of America. Thank you.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 15, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
jljag, there are 6 choices for tv viewing here, and i can’t get hannity on any of them if i tried. i never tried. the reason i got rid of satellite years ago was because i couldn’t stand looking at bush. it was just a suggestion. it has saved a lot of money.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
The difference in coverage is easy to understand: America wants CHANGE, no matter what it is. John McCain and Joe Biden are old-school Washington insider politicians… exactly what Barack Obama and Sarah Palin are NOT.
Obama and Palin represent a fresh approach to government, although it’s not clear where the change may take us.
John McCain acts like he wants to retire and Joe Biden is a has-been.
Posted by: Rhys | September 15, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
kitty, you do realize that if Palin is a “man’s woman and McCain is a man’s man” that no woman would vote for the Palin/McCain ticket because they are both preferred by men? WTH is a “man’s woman” anyway, it sounds SEXIST to me.
Posted by: mila | September 15, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
obama is going to need some of them saif. i was just offering a suggestion. i realize obama has started attacking people now, but some of us remember the hope he once inspired. i really don’t recognise what he has morphed into.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
I have some comments after reading almost all blogs in this section:
To all who so liberally accuse others to be liars, only those who are will be able to recognize the company they belong to.
To Charlie Gibson of ABS and all of Charlie’s copy cats, your prosecutorial arrogance blinds you to the truth: There are 4-7 “Bush Doctrines”and the preponderance of evidence suggests not that Sarah Palin was at a loss, but discerningly sought to discover which one you were talking about: “in what respect, Charlie?”
Similarly, the “Charlies” referenced above are deaf and dumb when it comes to hearing and responding to Palin’s clarification of the notion that we should not claim God to be on our side and instead should seek to be on God’s side, against the background of Lincoln’s encouragement to do that. Sarah is correct: God has a plan for the world. Humans are searching for what it is
Posted by: SDW | September 15, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
From what I understand, ABC edited the Palin interview in a biased manner. On the Russian question, here is part of what was missing:
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.
Posted by: Erika
*********************
Erika, now you finally know how it feels
when words are taken out of context,
cut short or twisted in order to
make the statement news worthy.
Obama had the same situation
when he was comparing Iran with
the Soviet Union.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 15, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Here is some common sense, “no representation without taxation!”
Posted by: smike | September 15, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Kitty – Well it is good to hear that you have not been Hannitized!!!! What are you watching and reading to base your vote. Are we misunderstanding each other??
Posted by: jljaguir | September 15, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
mila, what? why would a woman not vote for a woman who was preferred by men? i don’t really care if you call it sexist. you see, i agree with sarah palin that when women call everything from a compliment to a criticism sexist, it hurts all women.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
The reason is the Media are not giving Biden any coverage.
This is stricly unfair on the part of the media.
Bias for Republicans and McCain
Shame on you ABC NBC CNN MSNBC-
Router and the rest.
forget about FOX the fabarcated new ONLY FOR REPUBLICANs
Posted by: GHM | September 15, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
SDW,
“To all who so liberally accuse others to be liars, only those who are will be able to recognize the company they belong to.”
Personally, I believe God gave man and woman the ability to think. We appreciate your recognition that we are God’s children, but your logic is flawed since God does not lie.
Try again. Try psych 101 to develop better reasoning skills while you’re at it.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Gender, religion, and ethnicity SHOULD be of less importance than a candidate’s POLITICAL views and philosophies.
Most of us will cast our votes based on how the candidate will affect OUR lives, and less on what they have done with theirs.
Posted by: Rhys | September 15, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
jljag, my thought bubble has evolved over a period of time. i jumped off obama’s bandwagon in 2007. at that time, the republican candidate hadn’t been chosen. once hillary was knocked out and i knew it was obama and mccain, i went to mccain. palin was icing on the cake. for some history, i voted for bc twice and against gwb twice. i am independent and didn’t get to vote in primaries. no one has called me for polling. i read. i try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. and i think sarah palin will be a great vp.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Senator Joe Biden is doing his best appearing in different locations. Of course, the media is all about Palin. She was such a shock to everyone. Turns out she is more and more shocking all the time. She was lying at the republican convention and has been telling the same lies again and again. McCain made a mistake with Palin and he made a mistake with the public. We don’t want more crooked leaders, we want honest leaders who have intelligence and integrity. We have just had the worst president and vice president. We don’t want another pair of corrupt liars to take their place.
Posted by: Vicki | September 15, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
McCain say Obama will have sex education for kindergarten children Lies
McCain say the pig thing was about the his vp pick –Lies
Pulin say never took earmarks –Lies
Pulin says Iraq caused 9-11 –Lies
McCain pick Pulin because she best qualified —LIES
McCain is a maverick and goes across the aisle – LIES
McCain is against Bush and his fellow Republicans – LIES
McCain blames Obama for the high gasoline prices – LIES
McCain doesn’t know how many home he has — Lies
McCain will help home owner that lose their homes —LIES
McCain came up with the surge—LIES
McCain will give us a tax better break —LIES
McCain vote for woman’s rights—LIES
McCain support seniors —-LIES
McCain supports the Iraq vets with his vote —LIES
Palin was always against the bridge to nowhere –LIES
Posted by: GHM | September 15, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
[media] “Bias for Republicans and McCain”?
And what planet is THIS occurring on?!
Even Fox News was having fun today making fun of Sarah Palin, which I thought was unusual.
ABC is less biased than most, but CNN and MSNBC NEVER met a Republican they liked!
In an election where most of us must decide who to vote AGAINST, it really doesn’t matter who anyone is FOR.
Posted by: Rhys | September 15, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
he is without sin shall cast the first stone?
Posted by: smike | September 15, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
GHM,
“The reason is the Media are not giving Biden any coverage. This is stricly unfair on the part of the media.”
I actually believe it was a good thing to allow Biden to lay low short term. He will come back. He’s busy now working small town America. Palin is getting so much coverage that it gives everybody a chance to see all of her flaws and McCain’s since McCain didn’t actually vet her.
Media isn’t everything. We’re in the tech age where blogs and emails rule!
Obama/Biden 08!
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
This will be my third time to vote. The first time I voted Republican and the last time Democrat. I’m voting for the soldier this time around. Both Biden and Obama are lawyers and neither inspire much enthusiasm.
Posted by: independent
Third time to vote, McCain was 60 YO when you
first voted! WOW makes everyone feel young
doesn’t it….except McCain
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 15, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
i disagree with david from texas about their mixture. biden is my senator, and he’s the kind of guy who says what’s on his mind. that’s why i like him. obama is a bit more reserved (at least from what i’ve seen of him) but i think they genuinely like each other. they look like they are having fun together in the interviews/convention i have seen.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
The post listing “lies” should be titled “Lies”, because it’s lying about lying. A few of the statements are “True Lies” (sorry, Arnold S.!), but most are twisted half-truths.
My wife and I are definitely NOT in the “Top 5%” of income, but Obama will likely destroy us while McCain MAY allow us to keep our home. We’re in our 70′s, which makes us seniors who WOULD do better under McCain.
The “shotgun approach”, accusing McCain and Palin (even if misspelled) of lying, is simple mud-throwing without knowledge of the facts.
Posted by: Rhys | September 15, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Holy cow kitty, I think a certain subterranean region just froze over, because I actually agree with you on that last part about sexism! Sorry, I’ve heard the expression “man’s man” but I’ve never heard the expression “man’s woman” and it sounded a little funny to me. Obama may seem a little cerebral to you, but I’ve seen many elections happen in my lifetime, and I haven’t felt this kind of– the only word I can use is hope– for the future of our country at one of its darkest times since Bobby Kennedy.
Posted by: mila | September 15, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Thank you for the commentary, Jake.
You’re truely a breath of fresh air.
Posted by: Tuning Spork | September 15, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Joe Biden: the man who wanted to carve up Iraq into ethnic enclaves – and then “cut and run”. What brilliance!
Posted by: petee
*************************
As opposed to what we have
now? Billions a month wasted,
on keeping these religious
fanatics from killing each other!
How much longer can we sustain
this surge, the country is pretty
much drained and corruption
is a common place. Bush’s legacy?
Good riddance.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 15, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
mila, you are entitled to your opinion, but if Socialism or Marxism represent “hope” for America, then I’m genuinely glad I’ll be dead within a few years. And I’m sure you’re equally glad that my generation is dying off and getting out of the way.
I know America WILL become a Socialist country… someday. My wife and I always hoped we’d be gone before it happens, but now it looks like we will live to see it, thanks to BHO.
Posted by: Rhys | September 15, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
mila, i hate to break it to you, but that means you agree with sarah palin. ;) i know, talk about something freezing over. if you had told me after the last election that i would be voting republican ….
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
he is without sin shall cast the first stone?
Posted by: smike
You win smike, I’ll put down the stone down
and grab the crowbar instead…Hey, hey
I always wanted to say that…only kidding…
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 15, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
kitty,
I do not wish to extinguish rights of anyone. I’m a law abiding citizen and I simply want the government to enforce the law. There is no way the government should be allowed to imposed a law against hate and then allow WMAL’s broadcasters to spew it every day. I pay the FCC’s salary, not the advertisers and I resent having to contact the advertisers because the FCC doesn’t do its job.
You said you are an Independent, right? Well I’d like to suggest that most democrats and republicans are, too. We simply don’t label ourselves as such. For example, as a Dem, I was fully prepared to vote for McCain if Hillary had won. Why? Because Hillary wanted to mandate money out of my paycheck for healthcare. Yes, I wish each and all Americans could have healthcare. No, I cannot afford the government deciding how much I should spend on healthcare by penalizing me and requiring me to support a bloated healthcare system. It goes against the free market to mandate that I pay the healthcare industry’s overpriced healthcare premiums — and they don’t actually pay when I would most likely need them to because they’d find a way to weasle out of paying. My money would be wasted.
Obama wants to hold the government accountable for the decisions it makes including the Government’s decision to look the other way when cronism prevents accountability. The government is supposed to be accountable to us!
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Obama made, if not his largest, a noticeable blunder in his cras discarding of HIllary as a contender for Vice President should he have won.
Even Biden has acknowledged that.
Frankly I am glad that Hillary will not have to waste all her talent and energy cleaning up after all of his gaffes..
And although I am sorry to see her polishing his boots and pushing for his election…… this too shall pass.
But for now:
MCCCAIN AND PALIN
Posted by: america*centric | September 15, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
“Common Sense”, since you opposed Hillary Clinton because she wanted universal health care, why is it now OK if BHO plans the same thing?
As an independent, I planned to vote for Hillary, but now plan to vote against Obama (I hate to say I’m voting FOR McCain!). As stated earlier, I just don’t believe in Socialism and government control of our lives “from womb to tomb”.
Posted by: Rhys | September 15, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
“america centric”, I completely agree. Hillary disgraced herself by “switching” to Obama. I wish she had stood her ground at the convention, instead of rolling over like a whipped dog.
It’s not likely, but she MIGHT have been able to stop the runaway train, with an empty suit at the throttle.
Posted by: Rhys | September 15, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Rhys,
Obama does not promote mandated healthcare. Hillary was the one who disputed that Obama’s plan was universal. She lost. We’re free to call Obama’s plan “universal” again. It covers all that choose it. Has nothing to do with socialism since you buy it if you want to buy it. It is not forced on you like Hillary’s plan intended.
Obama/Biden 08!
(Facts, not fiction)
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Common sense, i remember a debate about healthcare. obama acknowledged his healthcare plan mandated coverage for people with children. only people with children would be mandated to pay for healthcare. so everybody else got to stay like it is, but people with children would be forced to pay for it if they could and/or a government program would be available.
i pay for my child’s health insurance/healthcare out of pocket without a government or employer contribution. i don’t need any mandates from obama.
obama the went on to agree that if you want universal healthcare, hillary’s plan was better.
i prefer john mccain’s where i can do what i’m doing now. i want goevernment to stay out of my business. obama wants to get in it.
you can surely understand my objection, right?
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
common sense ALL THE FACTS, K?
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Senator Biden has had a distinguished career in the Senate with many significant accomplishments (Violence Against Women Act, Crime Bill, PEPFAR, Kids 2000 among others) and doesn’t have to embellish or outright lie about his successes like his counterpart, Ms. Hockey Mom.
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
Kitty – Why did you jump off Obama’s campaign? Believe me, I respect your choice as an Independent. What is, in your opinion, wrong with the Obama/Biden ticket? Why do you like Sarah Palin?
Posted by: jljaguir | September 15, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
kitty,
My objection is identical to yours. The piece that you are missing is that healthcare for children is already required, so you lose nothing under Obama’s plan. States guarantee children cannot be denied healthcare — whether they have a healthcare plan paid for by their parents or not. Healthcare coverage for children is also relatively inexpensive as opposed to the cost of keeping older Americans healthy. Children usually require maintenance, while older Americans require payments for healthcare based on the odds that they were likely to have made bad choices and lived unhealthily. Oh, and that good old Republican fear factor is factored in, too. Old people are afraid they are dying and will pay anything to stay alive. Obama wants to pull the costs associated with all medicines back in balance. We most likely paid for the research, so we need the ability to negotiate reasonable/favorable costs.
Currently, the cost of medicines are not negotiable. Republican no bid cronism at work again!
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am
Kitty – I left the comments for awhile and just read that you answered my question. Please disregard.
Posted by: jljaguir | September 15, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
Kitty,
I can’t understand your objection. McCain’s plan doesn’t allow things to stay the same. His plan requires taxing of employer paid healthcare (which is the majority of insured in American) That will be disastrous. If employer healthplans go up much more, people will quit subscribing and that will just lead to more uninsured.
Posted by: catcoh | September 15, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
Kitty
You said once Palin join the Republican ticket you started like John McCain’s policies more. But John McCain didn’t change his policies.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
America*centric you were never really a supporter of Hillary if you are willing to vote for a ticket that will solidify the destruction of all the things that she and her husband have stood for throughout their political career. I liked her too, but I am a proud liberal that will not roll over on my beliefs out of wounded pride.
Posted by: catcoh | September 15, 2008, 1:40 am 1:40 am
The majority of the states affected by Bush are the swing states and Republican states. Democratic state produce 75% of the nations GDP and generally have better economy then Republicans states. Even Republican Alan Greenspan dislikes McCAin policies and he headed the Fed for nearly a half century. The Republican platform is the real facade with platitude and so called “family values”. John McCain often votes against aid for vets but nobody calls him on it. Maverick I think not.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Biden has made so many mistakes that the media is not covering him so they do not have to report the mistakes.
Posted by: pohcd | September 15, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
For Pete’s sake Rhys, take a chill pill. And don’t try to lay a guilt trip on me, you sound like my mother. Yes I am entitled to my opinion and I am voting for the issues that matter to me. I want a President that not only our country but the entire world can look up to. I want a President who cares about the environment, and remembers what it was like to struggle to own one home, let alone 8 (9? 10?). I want a President who doesn’t start needless wars, and one who cares about education. But most of all, I want a President who doesn’t hate polar bears.
Posted by: mila | September 15, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Kitty
Unless your child has a job, he can’t pay for health care. All children should have health care and he mandates it because children shouldn’t be turn away for treatable illness because of lack there of. Asthma can kill if not treated. The flu can kill if not treated. The emergency room is not suitable health care despite what Republicans think.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
catcoh,
And to boot, I’ve seen no evidence that Biden supports Clinton at this stage of the competition. Clinton supports Obama/Biden and she has encouraged her supporters to think about why they were behind her.
The best part of SNL parody was when Clinton’s role-player said “I just happened to be a woman”. Nobody’s catching that point, but it is true. I respected Clinton enough to vote on the issues and I feel no shame that I voted against her vision/plan.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
John McCain will not run his White House. The lobbyist will. They’ll give him false decisions between two things that help there companies. If John McCain wins, we lose.
When will the economy sober up Bush. How many more banks will you buy before you fix regulatory standards.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
MM,
Thank you for sharing that re GDP. I did not know it and will have to study further since it is such a good point regarding economic intelligence.
Need more info like this.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | September 15, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
common sense, my state does not require me to have health insurance for my child.
there is a great program here in delaware (think joe biden). it’s cheap, but if you want to enroll your child, your reason can’t be that your coverage has gotten too expensive.
as long as you’ve never had coverage (say you chose to put your premium money towards fun stuff), you can attempt to qualify. i don’t know what you have to do to qualify in its entirety because I can’t get past the part where I have been a responsible citizen.
if you want to check this out, call the delaware department of healthcare or whatever it’s called. you can just google it or something to get the number.
my premiums get higher, and eventually, i might be one of those unisured.
obama ackowledged in his debate that i would be forced to purchase healthcare for my child. i believe him. i want government to leave me alone.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Grandma Palin cannot run her family, how do you expect her to run the country? America is so laughable. Wake up, people!
Posted by: leighg1 | September 15, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
MM, I am a responsible citizen. I insure my child. I don’t need the government telling me I have to.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Rhys, you do realize that Social Security that great LIBERAL program started by FDR, is a form of socialism? So is Medicare for that matter.
And speaking of controlling wombs, Palin wants to tell women what to do with theirs. Should they be the victims of incest or rape, tough luck honey. Incidentally while she was mayor of Wasilla, it was the town’s policy for victims of rape to be forced to pay for their own forensic rape kits. How’s that for being a champion of women’s rights?
Posted by: mila | September 15, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
The guy who said we are a nation of whiners will be part of a McCain administration. He is the dude who helped En-ron deregulation laws come to play. And those laws are why American banks are failing today.
When we bail out these banks, we borrow money from China to do it.
Do you know what that means? That means China owns the US.
Did you hear about those long range Russian bombers that just landed in Venzuela, one of the countries that kicked out the US Ambassador?
Not looking good for us Americans. We are in deep dookie. Venezuela, Russia, and China are teaming up and it looks like we need China for money. All of the tought Palin talk won’t do us any good if we have to go to daddy (China) and ask for money to fight wars against their allies.
This is what the corrupt Bush years with failed foreign policies have gotten us. And when P. Gramm becomes a member of McCain’s cabinet, heaven help all of us.
America is in big trouble and the superpowers of the world have sent us a signal that they will blow our broke butts to pieces. McCainPalin 08 until the end of time.
Posted by: bleak outlook | September 15, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
Posted by: bleak outlook | Sep 15, 2008 2:01:37 AM
mccain was vitually cleared of any wrong doing as one of the “keating 5″…
Posted by: puma | September 15, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
No MM, i said she was icing on the cake. that means it was already good. if you care to go back, or you can ask mila, i also like the way palin looks. it’s true. i don’t have any objection to her positions. some of them i’m not a supporter of, but no real objections. so far. we’ll see. but i am voting for mccain. let’s just say mccain is a pig for arguments sake, and palin is the lipstick. if you put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig. i like the pig.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
mila,
McCain collects disability benefits, right? Isn’t that also part of the socialism you describe?
Posted by: Should Old People Get Benefits They Paid For? | September 15, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
McCain wasn’t cleared. McCain got over.
To recap, the context of the Keating S&L scandal was manipulation of world oil prices following the 1979 Iranian revolution and a loosening of regulatory oversight that set off a wave of bank failures across the American oil patch. Into this mix enters BCCI’s global raiders and junk bond traders, who cash cow the giant bank holding companies and leverage their assets into a play to take over the American banking industry. Finally, to top it off, the Bush presidency and elements of U.S. intelligence engage in a massive cover up of these global financial mechanizations in an effort to protect their international partners. It’s in this context that one needs to re-examine the role of John McCain in the Keating S&L scandal. McCain has always been a conciliator and clean-up specialist – in the case of the Keating S&L, the purpose was to protect a group of junk bond salesmen and Arab bank raiders, but, most of all to shield the Bush wing of the CIA and corrupt lawmakers – and put an attractive, all-American face of “reform” on cleaning up the mess afterwards. This is precisely the cover-up routine McCain repeated twenty years later in the Abramoff case.
Posted by: bleak outlook | September 15, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Its McCain who got overshadowed. Biden is a VP candidate and he nor Palin cannot overpower Obama!! Obama/Biden 08!!!
Posted by: Carolyn Brown | September 15, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
McCain and En-ron”
Throughout his career, McCain has been an enthusiastic champion of financial industry deregulation as a member of the Senate Commerce Committee from 1997-2001 and 2003-2005. McCain voted, according to a Washington Post financial columnist, with his “campaign’s general co-chairman and domestic policy adviser, former Texas senator Phil Gramm. The Politico’s Lisa Lerer reports that not only did Gramm author the 1999 legislation that repealed Glass-Steagall, the New Deal law restricting the speculative activities of banks, but after Gramm left the Senate, he lobbied Congress on behalf of the Swiss bank UBS when the banking lobby wanted Congress to overturn state laws restricting predatory lending and the issuance of mortgages to prospective home owners who could not afford them.” Link McCain, like Gramm, has been a supporter of the “Enron Loophole” that allowed Amaranth Advisors hedge fund, a commodities futures trading company, to attempt in 2006 to corner the natural gas market, a criminal violation for which the fund was recently handed a $300 million fine. Pt 1.
Posted by: bleak outlook | September 15, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
I will never understand why the Dems did not select Clinton as their VP.
Posted by: quickphil1943 | September 15, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Kitty
The mandate is put in place to permanently make people insure they children. There is no reason now for children not to be insured with all the government funded Health care. But I guess your pro-choice for child care and pro life for birth. Have a child and choose not to insure it. I’m not attacking you, I am showing holes in your argument.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
It is no longer about liberal or conservative — the rotten core is a republican agenda of win at any cost — elect anyone, particularly if they are below average and easily manipulated by the shadow government of their corporate masters. It doesn’t matter how ill suited their candidate may be, so long as you can “sell them to the base” and stay in power. They hate America even as they wave the flag. We see behind the curtain, and what you’re hiding there is a great gurgling septic tank of bilious nothing. No future. No hope. No moral center. Just a great stinking hole full of grasping hands clinging to power. I defy you to say otherwise, because the truth is, even those who claim to follow this band of thieves and liars are starting to wake up and jump ship.
Posted by: angry lefty | September 15, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Posted by: bleak outlook | Sep 15, 2008 2:08:25 AM
talk about spin…you might want to look at the facts, and the real role mccain played!
Posted by: puma | September 15, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
McCain and En Ron
Future McCain cabinet member, perhaps Secretary of Treasury, Phil Gramm:
McCain also has a direct connection with Enron, having received money in campaign contributions from Ken Lay’s Death Star. “We’re all tainted by the millions and millions of dollars that were contributed by Enron executives,” John McCain told CBS’ “Face the Nation” Sunday. McCain then acknowledged receiving $9,500 from Enron in two campaigns. Link Gramm’s wife, Wendy, was on the Enron Board of Directors, and Gramm was the architect of much of the “reform” while he chaired the Senate Banking Committee, including a move to exempt electronic trading of electricity from regulatory oversight. According to Time Magazine, Gramm and his wife were at the forefront of many of the illicit practices that led to the firm’s massive rip-offs and ultimate collapse:attractive, all-American face of “reform” on cleaning up the mess afterwards. This is precisely the cover-up routine McCain repeated twenty years later in the Abramoff case.
Posted by: bleak outlook | September 15, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am
MM, I am pro-choice. I also want to abolish the death penalty and that drives hard core Republicans crazy! However, I’m also not one of those bitter people Obama spoke about who hangs onto my religion or guns. None of those issues are the ones I am voting for or against.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:19 am 2:19 am
I actually feel sorry for Joe Biden. I have always liked him for his work in the Senate. I think it’s a shame that he has to be in this position supporting and playing second to Barack Obama. But who wouldn’t turn down the VP role? Now Clinton/Biden — that would have been a winning ticket!
Posted by: cappamore | September 15, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
MM that wasn’t me that you asked. It’s the only explanation I can think of.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
Kitty
Again, you buy into that elitist charged leveled by the original maverick. McCain is elitist, he came from a line of admirals. Which is why he became a pilot in the navy after graduating 5th from the bottom of his class. Obama work for all he has gotten, and work with small town people. There are lot of small town people in Illinois if you didn’t notice. Face it, you are not voting on the issues.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 2:23 am 2:23 am
Kitty
If not, then give me policy reasons why you are voting McCain that is not an Obama attack.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
MM, believe it or not, I am voting the top of the ticket. You and the media might want to try to make it about Palin, but I am voting the top of the ticket. I have been waiting 8 years to vote for McCain. I voted against Bush. I just so happen to not be bothered by Governor Palin. I find her inspirational and I am confident she will do a fine job. Even if I don’t agree with everything she says. She’s also easy on the eyes. Why is that sexist. It’s a compliment, and she would (probably) think so, too.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
puma
A certificate of Birth is also a Birth Certificate. Both are issued by the Federal Government. You just switch the words around and said A passport of the U.S. is not a U.S. passport.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
ok , MM. the “bush doctrine”. I happen to believe in peace through strength. i have a visceral dislike for bush, but if the bush doctrine is preemptive strike, then i think the commander in chief would be doing his or her job. i trust mccain to make those decisions. i have heard him speak and he knows what he’s talking about. I don’t want a president who blinks. I want someone who knows what they believe and follows through.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
MM, i do better under mccain’s tax plan. i have run the numbers. althoough i am currently unemployed, my background is accounting. i do better under mccain’s plan.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
Kitty
I respectfully disagree. The Bush Doctrine violates the separation of powers by bypassing Congresses power to declare war on a Nation. This tips unnecessary power to the President who already has a generous amount of power. Pre-emptive war should violate the constitution and is also a International Crime.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Kitty
But McCain gives taxes to small businesses, as he claims. I don’t see how that helps if you are unemployed.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
MM, i have no faith in congress. the only good thing about oboma/biden is it would get rid of two instead of one. you and i disagree about the powers a president should have. we proably also disagree about legislating from the bench. You can disagree with me all you want about the bush doctrine, but you asked me what policies i am voting for, and i told you. Sorry, but i know better what i’m voting on/for.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
MM, i don’t do it, so it doesn’t come easy. i never thought hillary was being mistreated and i don’t think palin is. i believe both of them are big girls and they can handle thmeselves. they don’t have to get out of the kitchen so to speak.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am
Kitty
Let’s analyze the Congress you have no faith in. The Democrats have held a majority of 1 for 2 years. Hardly a democratic Congress. The republicans have block Iraq votes by holding a 60 vote standard put in place at the Republican congress. The Republicans now hold the fillibuster record – (Do nothing congress). McCain was apart Congress for 26 years. By your standards Obama is better for the shear fact he is not a Republican and he’s only been there for 3 years.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
MM, i was employed by a company where i also owned 50% of the stock. I still own the stock, but I am not longer employed. The economy has affected me, but it’s opened a whole new world for me and i don’t plan on staying unemployed for long. I’m not sure what yo umean by giving taxes to small business, but I know in Delaware (think joe biden) the unemplyment rates just went up on small business. sometimes i wonder if we all need an economics course so we can all at least grasp the basics. they should teach it in public school.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
Ahhh but MM, if you add Joe’s 35 and Obama’s 3 or 4, it’s still more to get rid of Obama/Biden.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Kitty
I did take an economics course. I know it well enough that all parts of the market are related. Delaware has I understand is a big Bank state, and because of deregulation under Republicans the market has been driven by banks and is headed for a massive correction. Because that is what the market does. Delaware is also one of the nations biggest GDP draw in because of its saturation in corporations. M
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 2:50 am 2:50 am
puma, kinda hard to receive a birth certificate before you were born. I see your lawyer Berg is a former Hillary supporter who is filing the lawsuit on behalf of Puma. What a shock. Well I doubt he will win, but if he does, enjoy your brave new world that all you former die-hard Hillary supporters have wished upon us. That will certainly show us when Palin/McCain starts WWIII– yeah, we’ll all be sorry then. Can you say “cut off your nose to spite your face”?
Posted by: mila | September 15, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
MM.I get to vote for Biden this year if I want at the voting booth. He’s up frp re-election to the Senate. So, there is a possibility that I could have 3 out of 4.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Kitty
Your welcome to come to Illinois where Big city elitist live in harmony with small town farmers.
Shouldn’t are leaders be elitist. Shouldn’t they be better then you in every respect. Because I don’t want regular Joe mechanic running the nation’s economy.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am
Oh and MM, actually, if we get back to Biden, we will be on topic. LOL Joe who? That is so funny.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am
MM, I don’t think Joe ever was a mechanic. He’s not suffering in the finance department. He has had some real estate deals. I can relate to that. He seems like a happy guy, and I am grateful to him for taking one for the team.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
Kitty
No wonder you though Obama called Palin a pig. Regular Joe is an expression of the average guy.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
No thanks MM. I’m not good in cold. I’m considering NC. I’d really like to move to Mexico, but there is some really bad stuff happening there now. Nowonder those people are pouring over the borders. I’d probably be running over here, too. But, I don’t agree with any immigration reform that allows illigal immigrants a driver’s license. We are a nation of laws. Seems to me, that’s a pretty easy one to enforce. No giving illegals a driver’s license. Actually, I think Hillary had a plan about that, but I can’t remember what it was now.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
MM you are mistaken. I never thought Obama called Palin a pig. I thought his timing was horrible, but I didn’t think he was calling her a pig. And we had jsut gotten back to regualr joe, so i made a lil joke. Perhaps i shouldn’t be critisizing Obama’s timing if my deliver is bad.
Posted by: Kitty | September 15, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
Kitty
I think the winter helps you appreciate the summer. Also you can do things in winter that you can’t in summer. Illinois people are a lot nicer then people from the east coast. I hear it all the time from people coming form the east coast.
Posted by: MM | September 15, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
Is ABC news going to give Joe Biden the same amount of time on TV that they have given to Sarah Palin?
Posted by: SB | September 15, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Does America really want to elect two lawyer senators for change, from a democrat controlled congress with an approval rating of 9%?
I heard Karl Rove has advised the McCain/Palin campaign, that if Obama wants to to include Bush and run against them as a threesome? Go them one better, make it an Obama/Biden/Pelosi/Reid quad team to run against. Not sure it would work though? Unlike Obama/Biden, Harry and Nancy are such a beautiful, personable, outgoing, friendly, non-threatening, dashing, well spoken, sparkling and fun loving couple, who really are for change.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL: | September 15, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
Re: MM “It takes guts to Call McSleaze/Lyin the couple for America. It takes guts to call a +1 majority Democratic controlled. It takes guts to ignores McCain’s and Palin’s irrevalent eduations. It also takes guts to lie to yourself and vote against your self interest. Let’s face it your not voting on the issues.”
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When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL: | September 15, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
I imagine all the reporters are busy investigating John McCain’s efforts to cover up Cindy’s drug abuse and help her avoid prosecution.
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
Just to remember: The Clinton campaign went always negative in the primary, like McCain now. And you wonder why Barack didn’t choose Hillary ? Hillary would have been the pest pick for the Republicans to trash her. The Clintons have a samsonite factory.
Hillary is a powerful woman, but her campaign was disastrous.
Posted by: fred | September 15, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am
DNC must find a way to get rid of Obama and nominate Hillary at this point
it has nothing to do with Biden!
Posted by: MI will go RED | Sep 14, 2008 9:58:39 PM
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Pity. This phony nothingness is dragging a good man down with him.
Posted by: d0 | September 15, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am
“Obama has been much more detailed and thoughtful”
–Army Times
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am
How many of the reporters covering Palin have mentioned the huge (ok, but huge for Alaska, the biggest in its history) anti-Palin women’s rally? Not one! How many media outlets covered it compared to how many covered her rally there even though her rally was much much smaller? None.
Not a free press…just cheap.
Posted by: Mike | September 15, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am
Our nation is at a crossroads, we the American people must examine our core beliefs and vote accordingly. We must vote on the issues, not on spin and gut feelings. We must make long term plans, of which prayer is included but is not the only effort made.We used to be a world leader based on example – now it’s by force. We used to believe in and practice the Geneva Convention – now we torture (not here) we have hidden places overseas for that! We used to belive in education, now we think we can run a country with undereducated bottom of their class, individuals and continue to “dumb” down our educational system so God and science are not in opposition. This administration has cured me of ever voting Republican again.
If you can’t take the time to listen to Joe Biden – if you constantly have to be entertained by the media then you are not asking yourself the right questions. When a man owns 9 homes and a private jet and calls Obama an elitist you might want to check the facts. When this nation is reeling in debt, borrowing money from China for a war in Iraq so China can get the contract to develop the Iraqi fields at $6 a barrel – you might want to read more.
We have a crisis everywhere, war, healthcare, education, security of ports and borders, immigraion, infrastructure, nationl disasters, and a failing economy with a falling dollar and the bailout of airlines, banks, and an energy crisis that cannot be solved overnight. If you care about this country please read page two! Read about the issues – believe the fact that more of the same will not make a difference! WAKE UP AMERICA!
VOTE!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: White Mountain | September 15, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am
Democrats in Alaska! Wake up! The Safety Commissioner has publicly stated that he was not fired, but resigned after feeling only pressured for not canning a seriously deficient Trooper Wooten. Wooten even told reporters that he hadn’t even been contacted by the lead investigator of the panel brining the subpeanas! So, why are you chasing your tails?? Oh, yeah, you don’t want the talented Republican Sarah Palin and John McCain to win…
Posted by: Erika | September 15, 2008, 5:46 am 5:46 am
Bill Ayers, ACORN, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Rev. Wright, those missing years at Columbia U – we know NOTHING about Senator Obama, NOTHING. Unlike McCain, Palin or Biden there is no one from Obama’s past who steps up and talks about his character. No one except his wife. Where are his Columbia undergrad or Harvard Law fellow students, his community organizer buddies – there is no one. Who is he really? More importantly, who is behind him?
Posted by: Joanne600 | September 15, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am
Posted by: Joanne600 | Sep 15, 2008 6:04:02 AM
forget where i read it now, but there is a prof of bho that spoke about him being into black “groups”. at this university (where there was a prof who was a member of the weather underground–not ayers–)the prof reports that these blacks formed groups, one of which called them selves, “The weathermen underground. Fairly coincidental.
Apparently “someone” looked up 300 people from his class, and NO ONE knew of him in school.
the students in indonesia he schooled with, say he was a muslim, and prayed with them.
his family in kenya say he was born there.
is interesting how absolutely no one except his wife have evry extolled his virtues, etc.
where has he been, and who was he with for his entire adult life. we have virtually no pictures of him either.
Posted by: puma | September 15, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am
puma
A certificate of Birth is also a Birth Certificate. Both are issued by the Federal Government. You just switch the words around and said A passport of the U.S. is not a U.S. passport.
Posted by: MM | Sep 15, 2008 2:29:55 AM
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a certificate of live birth can be obtained after one is born, ie., if born abroad you can return and get a colb. A birth certificate has what hospital you were born in, signatures, and are notarized, etc.
bho has never said which hospital he was born in. there are two theorized hospitals, but neither has been sured up.
had bho been born in kenya, as is speculated, heis mom could have returned to hawaii and gotten a colb. then, even though his mother was a citizen, the law says you must have lived in the country for five years after your 14th birthday for your child to be a citizen. the other issue is his registration as an indonesian with the name “barry Soetoro” when his mom married lulolo soetoro and took bho to indonesia. with citizenship there he is ineligible for president. there are many questions and the suit filed in phil. will get answers. by 09/24 for bho and the dnc, and 10/21 for the fec.
Posted by: puma | September 15, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
Joe Biden is one of the most knowledgeable and dedicated legislators alive today. To even compare him with Sarah Palin – who has already demonstrated her VERY TENUOUS understanding of foreign affairs, and just about everything else – is ridiculous. The American public SHOULD see through the pseudo-feminist gimmick that is Sarah Palin.
Posted by: jon in maryland | September 15, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am
Clinton should have been the presidential nominee… despite the DNC and press waging an unholy war against her, she still won more votes than Obama. She’s a proven vote getter alright and there’s no doubt she would have lifted him to victory as his VP pick. But Obama is an arrogant, disrespectful man who has never missed an opportunity to take a slap at her and her 18 million supporters. The last thing she should consider doing is saving his sorry butt now.
McCain ’08
Hillary ’12
Posted by: Mary Lou | September 15, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am
Funny how the left likes to criticize those with whom they disagree as stupid, crazy, ill informed, etc., but they don’t counter with any facts. Please don’t change though, you’re making our job easier. McCain/Palin landslide in November.
Posted by: Joanne600 | September 15, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am
Posted by: jon in maryland | Sep 15, 2008 7:24:25 AM
abc did a real number editing her answers. if you read the entire transcript she did a great job, and had a good grasp of the issues….by the way there is no “one” bush doctrine. she was correct in asking him to clarify…
Posted by: puma | September 15, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
Posted by: Joanne600 | Sep 15, 2008 7:29:35 AM
…what else do they have?
Posted by: puma | September 15, 2008, 7:31 am 7:31 am
Puma – I see your point. There seemingly are no answers to the questions about Ayers, ACORN, CAC, etc., that would paint Obama in a positive light. Better to stick to Bush bashing.
Posted by: Joanne600 | September 15, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
Seriously, aren’t you more worried about Biden being President than you are that Palin might have to? Stress kills 40-year-olds every day.
Posted by: marylou | September 15, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Wow, ABC has almost run a negative story on the Dems. Not really negative, but highlighting what a bad choice Biden was. Imagine if Hillary was VP choice? That plane would have no empty seats, Obama would be leading big time in Ohio and Florida, and this election would be a landslide. Bad call Barack, poor judgment based on personal feelings. This is not personal, strictly business, Obama better figure that out soon or he is toast.
Posted by: JRS | September 15, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
Those women protestors against Palin didnt look like the kind of woman you would want to hang out with to me. Who knows, Obama sent 30 lawyers to alaska, maybe he sent some money to support that protest, wouldnt surprise me since he’s always braggin abut the money he’s raking in, during economic hardtimes.
Posted by: carolflowery | September 15, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
Seems like I see a lot of criticism of Fox News, Hannity, conservative talk radio here. That’s funny, because I’ve tuned into Fox more in this election that I ever have before. I used to watch Fox just to get a laugh. Now I have newfound respect for them. I get so sick of the pro-Obama bias on the so-called mainstream networks that I can’t stomach it sometimes. Before this election, I never understood what Republicans meant when they talked about bias in the media. I just didn’t see it. Now I do. Many in the MSM are using their position to shape the news, not report it. They are activly trying to promote the candidacy of Barack Obama by treating him with kid gloves and trashing anyone who’s up against him. I can’t even stand to watch anymore.
Posted by: Carrie | September 15, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
Regardless of the media coverage Biden is getting, he’s still being heard.
The most recent polls show Palin dropping behind Biden in favorable ratings:
SEPT. 14:
CANDIDATE FAV UNFAV NO OPINION
MCCAIN 53 44 3
OBAMA 54 39 7
BIDEN 49 33 18
PALIN 47 42 11
Posted by: Lou | September 15, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
Carrie,
The networks are not pro Obama. What we are seeing is that they are finally doing their job, and, in this case, are calling McCain on his lies.
He has sunk to such a new low that the networks can no longer brush it aside as politics as usual.
When even Karl Rove, the dirtiest of them all, says that McCain’s ads are lies, as he did yesterday, that’s saying something.
Posted by: Lou | September 15, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am
It’s great that you are not there to cover it jake. Biden is doing a fantastic job connecting with voters. So you should focus on ms. palin and all her issues/lies/controversies. We dems would love that.
Posted by: Lisa | September 15, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
“On Saturday, only four reporters were around to cover any Biden action. Not that there was any.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 15, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Meanwhile as the panic is rising on the left there is more talk of Biden being replaced by Hillary.
Funny how the BO supporters hated Hillary in the primaries, loved her at the Democratic convention, hated her for not attacking Palin, now there are rumbles about her saving BO again.
They are turning on BO for being so wimpy, Biden for his loose lips.
They’d turn on their mother to beat out the Republicans.
Posted by: sally | September 15, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
If or when Barrack Obama replaces Senator Joe Biden for a woman in an attempt to retake the spotlight or an imagined slight to regain momentum, Barrack’s campaign is finished.
The press should be asking about Barrack Obama’s judgment of character. It might open the floodgates with Barrack’s reticent about his dubious associations with Reverend Wright, terrorist William Ayers, & his past as a community organizer with ACORN.
With Senator Joe Biden as Vice Presidential candidate, Barrack Obama assumes he has already won the election; the election is a formality (he has been calling himself President in many Freudian slips on the campaign trail & acting as Commander-in-Chief this Summer). However, Barrack Obama just believed his own hype with little substance to back himself up beyond empty slogans of “hope” & “change.” Barrack Obama’s campaign is all smoke & mirrors–an illusion. If the truth were exposed, he would not have made it beyond the primaries. Obama is hiding so much that the careful masque he created is beginning to crack; he cannot keep this deception going indefinitely.
Where does Barrack Obama stand on the issues? Thus far, he has flipped on virtually everything he stood for in the primaries. Where does that leave the Barrack Obama-Joe Biden campaign? Nowhere, but treading water in the shark infested waters.
Barrack Obama’s campaign continues to implode since nothing of substance can sustain it.
Posted by: Sebastian Shaw | September 15, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
“Funny how the BO supporters hated Hillary in the primaries, loved her at the Democratic convention, hated her for not attacking Palin, now there are rumbles about her saving BO again.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 15, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
The cable news channels, meanwhile, have treated audiences to an interminable bluster-fest from Biden, painting himself as the hero of hahaha “Main Street” — wherever THAT is — over Wall Street (the Obama campaign’s MAIN contributors).
Sarah Palin’s the only one of the candidate quartet, meanwhile, who has even a CLUE about “Main Street”.
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 15, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
I was pretty dismayed at the start of the election season, i thought Barack Obama had a lock on the election. Then he goes and picks Joe Biden. Now I’m as happy as a pig in mud. Everytime that Senate seat-warmer opens his mouth, McCain goes up in the polls. In the words of a couple of now-famous democrats, There really is a God.
I’ll be very surprised if Joe doesnt withdraw before the election – to spend more time with his family, doncha know.
Hey – dl the real one – ANYBODY is more qualified for office than the rabble rouser Obamacus. Matter of fact, if he droppped Slo-Joe and selected Fey, I might consider voting for him… NOT!
Posted by: Gun Totin Bible Thumper | September 15, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
spacerook1,
Republican positions are being misrepresented and distorted by Democrats and liberal media all the time. Just Sunday, Karl Rove clearly emphasized in an interview that both sides we’re taking liberty with the facts, but Dems (in an ad), and, just for one example, CNN (which posted a story headlined “Rove: McCain went ‘too far’ in ads”) took out of context remarks he made about McCain (I read the transcript). The very first thing Rove said on the subject was: “ROVE: Well, first of all, I do think that the lipstick remark was an inappropriate — and maybe it was unconscious, but it was a deliberate slap at Gov. Palin.” Rove said afterward about the Obama ad, which suggested Rove only questioned McCain’s honesty, “Of course, they fail to say anything about the fact I said they were even more misleading.” The CNN story failed to mention seeking Rove for comment, or to use any specific quotes of Rove criticizing Democrats, and it also paints a false picture of the interview so you come away thinking that Rove especially singled out McCain for criticism and criticized both campaigns only secondarily. In reading the transcript, you see it’s the other way around. And that’s from the “objective news.” And talk about a dishonest ad, then, which happens to be about honesty. The idea that Obama’s campaign is ahead of McCain’s in ethics is obviously untrue.
And btw, there are apparently two “Erikas” posting here now – I’ve posted all the comments except for “Democrats in Alaska!”
Posted by: Erika in NY | September 15, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Both Obama and Biden laid low over he weekend because of Ike. Their joint appearance was cancelled in New Hampshire and Obama didn’t appear on SNL. Being a resident of Texas, I respect the choice of putting lives lost and affected over political publicity. Palin may have garnered the media attention in Alaska, but a lot of it was the press doing the vetting the McCain campaign should have done.
Posted by: kat | September 15, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
BO is still defending his
veep pick. Biden is a
non-performer in helping
the ticket win – whatever
else he may be.
A course correction is
necessary to put this
campaign back on the
path to victory.
The correction begins
with Biden being asked
to step down.
Without the grit to
correct this fatal error,
the campaign may well be
headed for a defeat.
Posted by: anon | September 15, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Hey, Joe made the news today! You can’t make this stuff up.
Posted by: Woody | September 15, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
The only way they could possibly pull off replacing Biden is for him to take a fall for the campaign by “accidentally” making an outrageous statement that could only be rectified to the American people by his stepping down.
Or he could have another aneurysm scare *wink*wink.
The one thing that absolutely cannot happen is for Obama to admit he made a mistake due to the old bad judgment thing.
Posted by: marylou | September 15, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
It just can’t get any better than this!
Biden is wandering the country like the Flying Dutchman uttering gaffes & bloopers while Obama is bragging about his negative commercials. I can’t wait for the clown car.
Posted by: paulejb | September 15, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
We’ve said it before. Good
judgment also means having
the gumption to quickly
rectify a bad one and look
forward.
Biden should be persuaded
to step down voluntarily
to save the party from
defeat.
Posted by: anon | September 15, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
The question is not whether Biden will give up the VP slot but whether Senator Clinton would be stupid enough to accept it.
Posted by: vanderleun | September 15, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Who the heck is Joe Biden anyway? and why should we pay attention to what he says?
All I hear is that he likes to take the train. Not sure what that means, but it is nice he is trying to conserve energy, I guess.
I wish Obama had chosen someone who was born after the 1950′s, and not before.
Posted by: Lashanda | September 16, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
“Media isn’t everything. We’re in the tech age where blogs and emails rule!
Obama/Biden 08! Posted by: Common Sense Sep 15, 2008 12:58:30 AM”
The internet, blogs and email are just another form of media, aren’t they? How well did Obama’s text revelation work? Text, another form of media.
The word media is derived from the word medium. It’s plural definition of media is a channel or system of conveyance. Newspapers, television, the internet and cell phones all fall into that category.
In my opinion Obama is Palin in comparison.
Posted by: Barb | September 17, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am