McCain Camp Accuses Obama of Cynical Attempt to Play Victim
"Barack Obama’s suggestion that the McCain campaign is somehow trying to paint him with ‘Muslim connections’ is false, and a cynical attempt to play the victim," Rick Davis, Sen. John McCain’s campaign manager, said today. "We’ve seen Barack Obama use these tactics before — and they’re just as offensive and wrong as they were the last time."
Davis was referring to comments Obama made Friday in Duryea, Pa., in which the Democrat said that Republicans, "when they say, ‘This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,’ what they’re really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’"
Davis — whose campaign has spent much of the last week complaining about bias in the media and sexism against vice president candidate Gov. Sarah Palin — continued railing against Obama’s vaguely-sourced claims of victimhood, saying, "Barack Obama said he was different. He promised a new politics of hope and change. Is this what that politics looks like? "This week, Gov. [Sarah] Palin said there are two kinds of candidates: those who use change to promote their careers, and those who use their careers to promote change. With each new cynical attack, it’s increasingly clear which kind Sen. Obama really is."
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The hypocrisy of the McCain campaign is going to cause such cognitive dissonance in the electorate that I am afraid we will all lose our minds. I suspect that’s the way they want it. Y
Posted by: Mary | September 6, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Glad to finally see someone calling out BO for his shenanigans! Obama has been talking this BS for weeks, months even. It is pathetic!
Obama.
Is.
Desperate.
He.
Will.
Say.
Or.
Do.
ANYTHING.
Country First!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary ’12
Posted by: USVet | September 6, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Obama is a whiner.
Posted by: Samantha | September 6, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Rumors about Obama’s being a Muslim first emerged after a Fox News report early last year said the first-term senator, who is a member of the United Church of Christ, had been educated at a radical Muslim school known as a madrassa.
Posted by: McCain Lies | September 6, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Again the McCain camp is trying to play the victim by misquoting Obama. “Barack Obama’s suggestion that the McCain campaign is somehow trying to paint him…” of course, Obama said no such thing and they know it.
Posted by: Mike | September 6, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
Methinks thou doth protest too much, Mr. Davis. And, Mr. Davis, exactly WHO is the more cynical: the McCain campaign spreading these accusations and acting terribly offended when someone calls them out, or the Obama campaign which is making people aware of these underhanded, mudslinging tactics? Look in the mirror, Mr. Davis, and you’ll see your own worst enemy!
Posted by: chuck | September 6, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
This is rich coming from the McCain camp after all the whining they did about
“sexism” when Democrats and the news media pointed out her lack of qualifications — just as they would have done with a male candidate.
Posted by: Alex | September 6, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
A McCain PAC actually did put out a Muslim smear ad a while back. What a unifier and maverick.
It seems McCain is willing to tear down everything good he ever stood for in order to win an election– even hire the guy that smeared his own daughter.
Really, truly sad.
Posted by: Danny | September 6, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
I’m sick of hearing Obama talk down to people like they are stupid. No one believes him any more. He has done nothing for America.
I am so excited about Palin!!!
Democrat for Palin/McCain
Posted by: mikeWill | September 6, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Here are but a few samples of the cards
that McCain continues to play:
The POW card
The Gender card
The The POW card
The POW card
The POW card
The “maverick”
An agent of “change”
The FEAR CARD
The WAR Card
The Religion Card
And the my friend you can “relate” to
us card (code words for race card)
Posted by: dave | September 6, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Obama is so, yesterday! Move along please!
Palin is Awesome!
Smell ya later BO
Posted by: zack | September 6, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Republican hypocrisy continues to know no bounds.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
I just saw the funniest poster up at school. It is a cartoon of Obama at a job interview and the employer is saying to Obama, “Do you have any character references that aren’t corrupt Chicago Political Fixers, loony Racist Preachers or Unrepentant Terrorists?”
Posted by: JasonDC | September 6, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Mr. Davis, an unregistered lobbyist, set up a meeting in Switzerland in 2006 between Mr. McCain and a Russian businessman, who has been barred from entering this country, apparently because of accusations about past ties to organized crime in Russia.
Posted by: Mike | September 6, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Country First!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary ’12
Posted by: Dob | September 6, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Obama is becoming really frightening. Thank goodness we are all seeing this now.
Dem for McCain/Palin
Posted by: Bill | September 6, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
obama has been doing that for almost 2 years now.
Obama is Hilarious though. He runs the most hateful, vile, evilest campaign ever seen.
Then always cries, Mom they are picking on me when someone gives him a mild taste of his own,
Proving Obama is whimp or he thinks the American people are stupid.
Posted by: seah | September 6, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Change we will vote for -McCain-Palin
Posted by: geevill | September 6, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
are you not tired of all the spin from the two McCain puppeteers?
Rick Davis & Steve Schmidt are all about paying games
Let’s have a campaign that talks about issues
This is real life people – enough with the baloney
Look at the issues – compare the positions of the candidate and make a choice
And ask yourself
Are you better off than you were four years ago?Eight years ago?
And then vote –
but stop all the distractions
ENOUGH
Posted by: alison | September 6, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Obama: An empty suit being help upright only by a lot of hot air and BS.
Posted by: Soetoro NO! | September 6, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
“The hypocrisy of the McCain campaign is going to cause such cognitive dissonance in the electorate…”
Cognitive dissonance?
You can put away your thesaurus now.
Posted by: McCain/Palin '08 | September 6, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
McCain picking Palin has sent Obama and his MSM sychophants into a abyss of panic. Obama and Axelrod are clueless what to do. Obama is now stale moldy bread instead of the agent of change.
Posted by: geevill | September 6, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Obama is so, yesterday! Move along please!
Palin is Awesome!
Smell ya later BO
Posted by: zack | Sep 6, 2008 8:26:33 PM
Uhhh… you do realize the person running for President is McCain, right ?
Posted by: Chad | September 6, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
If McCain/Palin can blame Obama for the boggers criticizing Palin and her tabloid life, then Obama can cite the rampant muslim rumors which the neo-cons like to cite at every opportunity (and which have indeed crept into the MSM). Get real… all you hear on right-wing talk radio is POOR Sarah, everyones been so meeeean to her, why are they piling on??? As if she deserves a free ride to the white house. At least Obamas operating face to face with the media. Palin has been in a safe little passive -agressive bubble.
Posted by: TBH | September 6, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Obama is becoming really frightening!!! He really is.
McCain/Palin, 2008.
Posted by: JKan | September 6, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
MCCain/Palin = empty suit/empty dress
Posted by: Valerie | September 6, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
I have to hand it to Rick Davis – I don’t know how he says this stuff with a straight face!
Posted by: Gretchen | September 6, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
I’m sick of hearing Obama talk down to people like they are stupid. No one believes him any more. He has done nothing for America.
I am so excited about Palin!!!
Democrat for Palin/McCain
Posted by: mikeWill | Sep 6, 2008 8:25:35 PM
First off you’re no Democrat, because Palin’s views are so opposite of a Democrat. Just say you’re a Republican voting for Palin, no need to lie.
Second, you do realize McCain is at the top of the ticket and would be running the country….
Posted by: Chad | September 6, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
McCain and Palin and their campaign and supporters are really pathetic. I wish this election were over and they went back to their lobbiyist lives and let the rest of us try to get the country back on the right track. The republicans have taken us back to third world nation status when we were once the only super power in the world!
Posted by: CMSgt Gary Preston | September 6, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
This from the campaign that whined about sexism and the big bad media last week.
This is laughable. This campaign is going to be the dirtiest we have ever seen, strap in. The republicans are running scared and are getting ready to slime the entire country.
Posted by: INCOMING | September 6, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
“First of all, there are NO dems for McCain.”
_________________________________
I guess someone forgot to tell Lieberman and the disaffected Hillary supporters like me that. Maybe if you treated people like us with respect and listened to our concerns then we would not have jumped the now sinking DNC ship. Gee 8 years of a terrible GOP president and you guys at the DNC still can’t manage to pull out an election.
Next time put your party before your Ipod.
Posted by: Samantha | September 6, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Uhhh… you do realize the person running for President is McCain, right ?
Posted by: Chad | Sep 6, 2008 8:46:16 PM
The question is….does Obama know?
Posted by: KB | September 6, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Chad
Actually, there are people who are stupid and enjoy being talked down to.
Posted by: rodney | September 6, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
“First of all, there are NO dems for McCain.”
_________________________________
I guess someone forgot to tell Lieberman and the disaffected Hillary supporters like me that. Maybe if you treated people like us with respect and listened to our concerns then we would not have jumped the now sinking DNC ship. Gee 8 years of a terrible GOP president and you guys at the DNC still can’t manage to pull out an election.
Next time put your party before your Ipod.
Posted by: Samantha | Sep 6, 2008 8:54:49 PM
Oh, boohoo! As a McCain supporter you need to quit your whining already! Hillary LOST, get over it. I watched the whole thing, and Obama beat her by running a better campaign; quit being so bitter!
Now, I support McCain because of the issues he believes in. War, Pro-Life, etc.. I welcome the support, but I still don’t get how you can buck your party and all the issues it stands for just because you lost. Kind of funny actually…
Posted by: John | September 6, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
WHEN WILL PALIN BE INTERVIEWED BY A REAL JOURNALIST..HMMM COULD IT BE THIS IS A GIMMICK.. JUST TO GET VOTES..OR IS IT HER JR COLLEGE EDUCATION WONT STAND THE SCRUTINY..WE ALREADY HAD A DUNCE AND PIT BULL FOR EIGHT YEARS
NO MCCAIN/GIMMICK
Posted by: prez | September 6, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Sarah Palin=Governor
Barack Obama=Soup Kitchen Community Organizer
Hmmmmmmmmmm!!!
Posted by: Steve | September 6, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
“Your man is falling in the polls”.
Really? How about instead of rattling off stupid statments, click the “Polls” link on the top of this page. It says:
Obama: 49%
McCain: 43%
Now, who’s falling behind?
Posted by: clifton | September 6, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Obama’s no victim– he has gone through a powerful gauntlet to get where he is now, and he has my vote and admiration.
McCain is sneaky– bringing in this unknown person 60 days away from teh elections who has to read from a piece of paper what she’s supposed to say– and all she’s done is make pit bull attacks, and not talk about issues.
I don’t care if McCain says he’s just having fun, or that he’s a maverick– I’m not looking for gamblers and game players..
I want someone focused on my needs as an American. Obama has answered questions I have, McCain has offered me snide remarks and guilt trips about his POW status.
8 years is enough.
Posted by: anna | September 6, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
The Republicans are so inept they couldn’t tell a victim even if he was receiving his Purple Heart at Walter Reed Middle School.
Posted by: Mike | September 6, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
I stand by Gallup my man.
Posted by: Samantha | September 6, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Oh, j -
Please vote for McCain. Be our guest. Since you’re clearly not interested in furthering the cause of the electorate!
McBush, 4 more years of failed Republican policy, and his VP pick, Palin, a right-wing beauty queen. Nice.
Posted by: SpinRepsSpin | September 6, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Judging from the comments here, there just might be enough wackos to elect M<Cain. You will get what you deserve.
Posted by: Bruno in TX | September 6, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
You know, Maybe if McCain actually covered some of the issues instead of just complaining and making vague promises he might not have people complaining about his campaigning style. Never mind not knowing Palin’s stanes on the issues, in most cases even after looking for them I don’t know McCain’s stances on the issues.
Posted by: Tom | September 6, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Surely this is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. The Republicans have been playing their cynical games from day one, and are oh so quick to claim victim status when they think it will help them. We’ve had eight years of this garbage. That’s enough.
Posted by: Mark O | September 6, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
McCain’s campaign is trying to make this election about personality and not the issues because they can’t win when people pay attention to the economy.
Look back at Phil Gramm, McCain’s economic adviser. Phil Gramm who with his wife was enriched mightily by Enron. Phil Gram who worked with McCain to get rid of the troublesome government regulations that have led to the sub-prime meltdown that we will all have to pay for.
Palin was the shiny distraction to coverup a threadbare campaign for what he would do to solve problems.
McCain is stuck in the past, the time has come to move on from the republican mantra that further enriching the already wealthy is going to heal the country. The rich are laughing in their sleeves.
Posted by: Citizen Voter | September 6, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
If you were blind to the Race and theatrics of the candidates, basing your decision on their ‘words’ how would you vote? How different are the speeches today than 4 years ago?
Posted by: concerned | September 6, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
I don’t see what is remotely wrong with Obama’s comment. First of all, he does not mention McCain’s campaign at all. Second, it is completely true that many Republicans try to paint Obama as a Muslim. They say his middle name “Hussain” on a regular basis, directly for this purpose. And I know many, many Republicans who have told me they will not vote for Obama because they think he’s a Muslim. Can you blame Obama for merely stating the obvious?
Posted by: George | September 6, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Bruno in Tx–
Nope, they are just desperate. Obama is ahead in all national polls and way ahead in state electoral predictions.
It’s going to be a landslide but we can’t get complacent, volunteer, donate, whatever we have to do to get Obama elected.
Posted by: TOAST IS THY NAME | September 6, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
ranje
What polls are you looking at?
Posted by: rodney | September 6, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Some folks would vote for a money if it had a (R) by it’s name! If this country elects McCain and “Mrs. Teleprompter-Palin…they deserve everything they get. Let’s get serious this race is about who has the best plan for America. John McCain doesn’t—”Proof”- He couldn’t even come up with his own campaign them. Now he’s promoting “Change”.
Posted by: Larry | September 6, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
I’m voting dem this year. I made a mistake voting Bush the first time, and I didn’t bother voting for the second because I was less than thrilled with both Bush and Kerry.
What I saw at the RNC– the fairytale chant of “drill,baby,drill”.. the denigration of Obama’s community work– those are not my priciples– and I don’t want those politicians representing me.
I am a Republican for Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: jennifer | September 6, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
It’s Barack “Who’s Sane” Obama
Posted by: ann | September 6, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
You can call yourself a former Clinton supporter, and you can call yourself a current McCain supporter, but you CANNOT call yourself a Democrat. McCain and especially Palin are the polar opposite of the Democrats on many important issues. So if you can vote for McCain and are willing to let the country head in the direction he would take it in the hopes that Clinton will win in 2012, you are a Republican, and that Country First stuff is a load of crap.
Posted by: mila | September 6, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Jennifer:
I AM A LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT WHO HAS NEVER VOTED REPUBLICAN. I AM A DEMOCRAT VOTING FOR JOHN MCCAIN.
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
jennifer
Very funny!
Posted by: rodney | September 6, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Obama is the one going up, up, up to the white house.
And to those of you that would call us obamabots, sorry that we care more about our rights and knowledge than letting your spaghetti monster tell us how to live our lives.
Free thinking before ideological mumbo jumbo.
Less crap, no lies, Obama is the future. Get out of the way or get ready to be steamed rolled over.
Posted by: Ryan | September 6, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
The one who neds help here is McCain he is using his running mate and hanging onto her skirt tails for dear life ohhh can’t ask any questions can prob in to her past can’t do this can’t do that leave her alone…Get the idea????
Posted by: me | September 6, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Throwing an American Flag in the garbage…
Is NOTHING compared with DISGRACING the American flag as the republicans have done in the past 8 years.
Posted by: clifton | September 6, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Jennifer–
Good for you, someone who can think for themselves.
Posted by: OBAMA/BIDEN | September 6, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Sick of McCain’s tricks, sneaky nature and snide remarks.
Go Obama. I’m behind you.
I also liked that: Barack “who’s sane” Obama
Posted by: sarah | September 6, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Mila:
Former Clinton supporter now supporting John McCain. Obama lost me when he opened his big mouth time and again throwing sexist comments at Hillary Clinton and than claiming that her husband was a racist. That is when he lost me. Until that point, he had our votes in the palm of his hand. It was his choice to shoot off his mouth and now we are voting for McCain. And, many big money supporters who backed the Clintons are now pumping oodles of money into the McCain campaign. I may not be totally taken with McCain but it will be a cold day in you know where before I vote for that little sexist elitist pig Obama. And, these are some of Obama’s known good friends in the past, look them up maybe it willopen your eyes, maybe not, Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger, and Saul Alinsky. If Hillary had come out strong with these names on the attack your savior Obama would be just a foot note in history! Go McCain! And, if you want to talk about a load of crap: How can any women support a man for President who openly bashed the entire female gender when he bashed Hillary Clinton! Now that is what I call a load of crap!
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Talk is Cheap
Fact 11 million more democratic voters, some areas 46 percent increase, so all that will matter is THE VOTE
So don’t forget mark you calender, talk to friends, remind them.
Why not give Obama a shot, hey the republican’s always at least in the last 40 years make it worst for the poor and middle class, the Democrates make it better for all, it has been a long study, so even if your Rebublican you still did better under a Democrats.
Just the “moral issues, but if you think about it, now we have very bad lack of morals on tv, and videio games, and such so actually for the last 8 years morals have been loosened.
Hey I am from a democratic family for generations, but I voted for Bush 1.
And a Desert Storm veteran.
And all else asside and all the bitter child like fighting, we as people can not do as we are doing.
It is really medical bills that are killing the economy, and franky immigration, but I have undocumented family members, and I understand them, but something has to be done.
Our payroll taxes are so huge.
Even if you dont like Obama, heck you can vote him out is 4 short years, that is what is great about voting.
I am not an Obama fan but I will vote for him, because frankly we all do better under democratic ran government.
Hey were I am at they took our guns, so maybe Obama will give them back.
And maybe there will really be change with the medical HMO and taxes.
The values stuff well really that is between you and yours, because if you find out your son is gay or your daughter then well you have to deal with it. Or if he gets in Jail, or if he doesn’t believe in GOD, it is family who really has to deal the government should not.
I grew out of wanting a political offical to “be like us” a long time ago, I just want to be able to take care of My Family. And if I can help others.
We all need to get off our soap boxes.
So today I checked my corn I grow in the alley, and squash and tomatoes, all which I give to the neighbors.
Next up beans, peas, and then winter foods.
Helping out gets your mind off all this and more focused on better things.
So just asked yourself what you want for your family, and Vote.
Peace, take care.
Posted by: Free Thinker | September 6, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Sarah:
Tricks and snide remarks? You mean like when Obama told Hillary she whined, her claws came out, she was annie oakley because she supported gun rights? If that is the case, than why are you supporting Obama. He does the same rotten stuff so get off of it! Or my most favorite was when he disparaged Bill Clinton’s legacy. He’s a loser! I hope he goes down in flames in November!
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Free Thinker
I ask myself that question and the answer was ‘anybody but the lying two-faced bigot Obama’.
Posted by: rodney | September 6, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
CORRECTION – MARY ANNE
I MEANT HILLARY TURNED MCCAIN SUPPORTER– they don’t exist. Palin is too radical for them on social issues, no way, now how, no palin.
Posted by: UNITED DEMS | September 6, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Obama lost me when he opened his big mouth time and again throwing sexist comments at Hillary Clinton and than claiming that her husband was a racist.”
Name a single comment by Obama that was sexist towards Hillary.
Show us where he ever called Bill a racist?
If not, you’re just another liar.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
I am a Hillary Clinton supporter who will vote for McCain/Palin. Don’t try and tell me we don’t exist. It only makes the situation worse.
Posted by: LarryT | September 6, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
I voted for Bush TWICE. In 2000 I voted for him because I thought he was best qualified for the job. In 2004 I choose him because he was the best of two evils. I’m voting for Barack this year.
I’ve voted Republican all my life except in 1996, I voted for Bill Clinton. I volunteer for the Obama campaign in Virginia and I’ve never been this excited about a candidate since Reagan.
I know many others like myself. My family and friends ie. I’m still working on my father.
Posted by: BrianVA | September 6, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Man, they are playing the only card they have and playing it for all it’s worth, aren’t they?
Like I’m going to look to the words of the mighty Sarah Palin to judge Obama’s record. Bull. The McCain campaign are the ones who admitted they’re trying to change this into an identity politics spectacle.
There are “those who use change to promote their careers, and those who use their careers to promote change”?! That’s not even a good line. Seriously, look at it.
Posted by: Grace | September 6, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Ryan C.
I’ll name many.
He said, “I knew her claws would come out eventually.” In other words, all women cat fight. He said, “She is whining about my campaign fliers, I didn’t whine when her campaign released neg. fliers about me.” So, all women whine. He said, “She was acting like Annie oakley because she supported gun rights for hunters.” Any woman who asserts herself is a rough neck. Shall I continue you nit? I have plenty more. If you want to see more, let me know.
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
MCCAIN THROUGH THE COUNTRY UNDER THE BUS
NO MCCAIN/GIMMICK
Posted by: prez | September 6, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
I can hardly wait for Obama’s video, you know, the one that contradicts everything he has said for the last six months. Guaranteed to make an __ out of all of his supporters!
Posted by: Chip | September 6, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Ryan C you’ve been served!
Posted by: Becky | September 6, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Mary Anne, Annie Oakley was a boundary-breaking woman. She played with the boys and beat them at their own game. After that, she used her considerable fortune and influence to become a philanthropist for women’s suffragette movements.
So the reference to Annie Oakley, like most of the other supposedly “sexist” references, all depends on the eye of the beholder. Annie Oakley was the prominent markswoman of her age, and the most famous one I can think of. When talking about a woman shooting guns, who would you have had him mention?
Posted by: Grace | September 6, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
WOW. I can’t believe that ANYONE would actually vote for a party that supports such rude, condescending behavior. It reminded me of a pep rally…mainly because of the cheer leaders and the fact that everyone has to “talk up” the people running. Have you noticed how many times McCain and Palin had to talk each other up??? And all the others who had to talk them up too??? It was ridiculous. The energy at the DNC was enough to knock you down…and there wasn’t any smoke and mirrors like at the RNC. No propaganda. No insults. I’m not calling the Rep’s “Bullies” because they are threatening; they’re bullies because they are SO INSECURE, so they feel like they need to insult the opposing party. Maybe if they got their heads out of their asses and spent more time listening to the general public instead of manipulating people who have been directly affected by the war-for-no-reason, they could actually come up with answers of their own, rather than riding on the coattails of Obama’s ideas. They’re pathetic and they know it.
Posted by: Mo | September 6, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
Larry:
So proud of you! The Dem party called yesterday and asked my husband to volunteer and he really gave them the business. He said, “Obama said of the women voters who he alienated by insulting Hillary Clinton that “They’d get over it.” He said, “Well, I’m not a women and I’m not getting over it!” Way to go Larry! You made my day!
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
I’m wondering how McCain will manage to “reach across the aisle” to accomplish change, when he has alienated both sides. The Democrats despise him for his despicable campaign smear tactics, and the Republicans hate him for turning on them at the convention. Sounds more like he’ll be running a gauntlet.
Posted by: JudiNV | September 6, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
The headline of this blog indicates that McCain’s camp is crybabying about Obama being a crybaby. There all crybabies. Bring back Hillary please.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 6, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
clifton
And what does all of that have to do with what you said earlier? You’re playing the Obama game of changing the subject on the fly.
Posted by: rodney | September 6, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Grace,
I see you conveniently left out his reference to the “whining” and to the reference about “I knew her claws would come out.” So, those things were compliments? Oh, please, I’m not buying it and I’m voting for McCain. It is one thing for the GOP not to treat women completely fair, but when my own party, who I have been devoted to my entire life, turned a blind eye on this kind of behavior, I thought to myself, they don’t care about me any longer. So, please, it will not change my mind. And, the tone of voice he used about Annie Oakley was not as a compliment. he meant it in a negative fashion. You need to review that comment he made. It was not meant as a compliment to her.
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
HEY..MARY ANNE PUT YOUR CLAWS BACK IN AND QUIT WHINING HILL LOST..WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ANNIE OAKLEY?
Posted by: prez | September 6, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
“Obama was too foxy to come right out and say Bill Clinton was a racist.”
IOW you lied.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
prez: An exceptional reason NOT to vote for BHO.
Posted by: rodney | September 6, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Sorry Rodney, which comment were you referring to? I thought you meant my most recent comment about the flag.
Posted by: clifton | September 6, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
United Dems:
Oh yes, way. You will see in November. I hope Obama gets trounced!
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Mary Anne–
I need to understand, so I ask, respectfully, what are your political issues—
why were you supporting Hillary? Can you explain to me, another democrat, why you would help hand over the white house to a party whose views are v. different from the party you supported for so long?
When all is said and done, and say, if McCain was voted in, is he truly the leader you wanted?
If he is, then more power to you, but you should have just turned tail registered as a republican a long time ago.
Et tu, Brute?
Posted by: sarah | September 6, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Steve,
You’re dreaming. All the polls I see say they are close it is almost a dead heat and only 10 electoral votes between them. I think you drank too much kool-aid today.
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
The race is already over. You know it. The only thing left is the crying and we’re already hearing that. The Democrats will have to wait for four more years until the baby boom generation IS the retirement generation, then we’ll be able to install a real Democrat with much greater ease. The feel good Democrats come and go and every once in awhile we come back to earth and put up a viable candidate like Bill Clinton. Not this time though.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 6, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Mary Anne, I know exactly how he said it. He said it as a political opponent would in ridiculing her sudden memories of guns when it might get her votes. There is nothing wrong with that.
And yeah, he said “claws out” and “whining”. The deserved response to that? A strong verbal smackdown, not a whimper of sexism.
I don’t have a thin skin, and I don’t expect men to police their words around me — I zing them back. So unless there’s a CLEAR and obvious sign of sexism, then I feel girls should just hit back.
Posted by: Grace | September 6, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
I for one can tell you the Republican party isn’t united either. If you knew how much Ron Paul supporters and conservative independents we register weekly in VA you’d be surprised.
Obama has a serious chance of winning Virginia. Last month alone we registered 42,000+ Virginians.
Posted by: BrianVA | September 6, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Mary Anne, I never said he was my savior, I said I support his ISSUES. You’ve heard of ISSUES? Unlike Rick Davis, I DO NOT think that this election is about personalities, I think it’s about ISSUES.
And yeah, I heard sexism, but I also heard racism, and a lot of other stupid stuff, but I still think it’s about ISSUES. My personal concern is the environment, think it’s all going to be pretty meaningless if we destroy the planet, so I’m sure as fark not going to support a ticket that thinks Global Warming is not man made! If it’s not made, than they don’t have to DO anything about it, do they?
Posted by: mila | September 6, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Mediawatch,
I know.
And my name is actually Ryan C. I made a typo
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
“The race is already over. You know it. The only thing left is the crying and we’re already hearing that. The Democrats will have to wait for four more years until the baby boom generation IS the retirement generation”
Ummm… you might want to click the POLLS link at the top of this page that you are blogging in for the RNC. As of today, Obama 49 / McWar 43
Posted by: clifton | September 6, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Calm down everybody- McCain’s a POW- he can do and say whatever he wants!
Posted by: NMP | September 6, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
My question is why would anyone contribute to a campaign where the candidate is not even a U.S. citizen? Talk about a waste of money.
Posted by: PaulPA | September 6, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
I don’t have a thin skin, and I don’t expect men to police their words around me — I zing them back. So unless there’s a CLEAR and obvious sign of sexism, then I feel girls should just hit back.
Hear, hear Grace!
Posted by: sarah | September 6, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Obama has had a free ride. Everyone was afraid to go on the attack with him because he is half black. That was the worst mistake they could have made because it got his momentum going fast. He was raised by his white grandparents and is only half black. So, why everyone says he is the first black man is beyond me! But, even with the young voter base and the black voters, it will be tough if the graying population comes out in large numbers for McCain and that is our plan! So, good luck with all of that!
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Calm down everybody. McCain is a POW so he can do or say whatever he wants or feels like.
Posted by: NMP | September 6, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Paul, who’s not a US citizen?
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
I thought it was Sarah who made the whining accusation.
Posted by: cta | September 6, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
I read the hole “No Holes Barred” from the Plain Hater who knows Sarah and just thinks she’s ruthless.
Ok, I read with objectivity, thats more then a liberal would of done. And would say there are some things that don’t sound right, if they are true. Flip the coin, she’s a heart beat away. Yep I got it
Flipped: He’s the beat, no record. No experience, Troubled back ground. Celebrity like aurora.
Palin has more accomplishment that I disagree with then Obama has experience!!!!
You can’t redo that…
Posted by: And | September 6, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Awwww someone is jealous of Obama’s over 2 million donors, 50% of which have given less than $200.
It makes right wingers afraid to see a real grassroots network vs their bs astroturf.
Polls had Hillary and Obama close too. And even though she had every built in advantage in terms of party support and long time associations with big time fundraisiers Obama beat her. He beat her by being more organized on the ground and having a much wider fundraising net. He beat her by skillfully using both the web and web 2.0.
He now has more offices in red states than McCain does with an army of volunteers. His GOTV apparatus is absolutely massive while McCain will be dependent upon the state parties.
All the GOP has is slime. And this time slime will not win.
Go Obama!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Mary Anne, I understand that there are a lot of Clinton supporters who are ticked at their candidate losing.
But when Clinton supporters vote for McCain/Palin, who have frequently declared that Roe v. Wade should be overturned, who also talk about how they’ll stock the Supreme Court with conservative judges, which will affect the rulings of the court for the next 30-40 years…
If Clinton supporters defend ONE woman at the expense of millions and millions of others, willingly endangering choice for the next few generations? That’s it. That tells me they’re not interested about women and rights at all. All they’re interested in is nursing their sense of grievance.
Posted by: Grace | September 6, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
And, honestly compare the accomplishments, since you insist on making the comparison between the two.
Palin doesn’t have the education, nor the knowledge, nor the experience to be Vice President. And I’ll keep shouting the truth. No doubt about it.
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Cynical? McCains whole Acceptance speech was cynical. Who is he kidding?
Posted by: Thinking | September 6, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
The only comparisons that should be made are Palin to Biden.
Obama is running against McCain. The comparisons with them are based on issues and both have their strengths and weaknesses.
I request all democrats refuse to indulge the trolls in trying to compare Obama to Palin, whom he is NOT running against.
Palin is second on the ticket and John McCain will live to be 100, i.e., she will never be president and so we do not need to indulge in their little game.
Posted by: PALIN IS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT | September 6, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Dob –
Every other poll has Obama up by at least 2 and some by as much as 6.
Sorry to ruin your day. Being up in one poll right after your convention is pretty dismal for the republican party.
Posted by: DUH | September 6, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
McCain is getting a free ride from the media. He always has been overly friendly with the press. Some even call him “Mac.” I recall McCain has repeatedly promised that he would take the high road during this campaign, but he has repeatedly taken the low road, nasty personal attacks and falsehoods. McCain is the one who constantly plays the victim by constantly referring to his POW days. He is milking it for all it is worth. I think it is ridiculous that a 72 year old senior is running for the presidency. During this campaign he has had many senior moments, forgetfulness, etc. If he is elected, just imagine that his shaky 72 year old finger will be on the nuclear switch. That’s scary!
Posted by: Rick | September 6, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
let me make sure that i get this right–mccain’s camp has been busy accusing everyone of sexism for investigating sarah palin (well, if she’s running to be 2nd in command, don’tcha think we ought to know SOMETHING about her?). now, they want to complain about obama’s observation that they spend more time wanting to make voters afraid of him than they do putting forth their own agenda? interesting.
Posted by: antijake | September 6, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
bc46, why do you say that was put to rest? There is an ongoing case.
Posted by: Paul | September 6, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Honestly as a McCain supporter that’s the one thing that scares me about Obama campaign. Their ground game is identical to Bush ground game in 2004.
If McCain doesn’t catch up he’s going to lose this election.
I don’t believe these polls. Obama is up by much more then its states. McCain is letting this election slip.
Posted by: Joe | September 6, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Obama claims to be one of change but has never authorized legislation for *change*.
Why not?
He use to claim that he wanted to *change* the education system by allowing school vouchers – then he *changed* his mind because of the corrupt unions were giving him money. He took the money and gave them change. He changed to “I promise never to do that.”
Initially he said that it would be wrong to retroactively let a business off the hook even before a case went to trial. After the phone companies supported him *”cha ching”* he gave them *change* too – by voting to making illegal activities that happened in the past now “legal to do in the past”. It was absolutely astounding.
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Yes, Obama is a man of change . . . cha ching.
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Yes, Obama is a better speaker but Obama has AUTHORED NOTHING but *change* as a slogan.
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McCain has been a thorn in the side of the Republican party because he has a sense of right and wrong and worked with “independent” Democrats to get things done.
Obama has folded into party lines. He was the one I supported because of his views. But after Obama changed his mind I changed my support. Over the past few months Obama has shown himself to be a follower. Oh, often Obama would not even vote on an issue – except for voting “present”. What kind of ability to decide is that?
Sure McCain voted 90% of the time along his own party lines.
10% of the times he voted AGAINST party lines.
You think that is bad???
Obama voted 95% of the time along party lines!
The other 5% HE (essentially) DIDN’T VOTE!
That’s an example of the pot calling the kettle black.
If Obama wanted to be seen as a maverick, an agent of change, someone who is independent of party positions – he is missing the minimum target by 6%.
Obama took the “change” slogan from Hillary who took it from Bush when he ousted the other Clinton. Give me a break! Who ever is NOT in office uses it as their slogan. That is the way it has been and will be.
But again, look at the stats: 90% vs 95% – McCain has Obama beat.
Posted by: Samuel Johnson | September 6, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Patty, those aren’t scare tactics. That’s something every single American woman should think about before they pull the lever.
I am interested in maintaining choice for myself and for my children. McCain and Palin are clearly NOT interested in that. If that’s a tradeoff that’s acceptable to other women voters, fine. But to just ignore it entirely is irresponsible.
Posted by: Grace | September 6, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Yeah the “their going to try to scare people about me” line is really getting tired. It’s a standard ploy of Obama’s to accuse anyone who criticizes him of racism. Yawn! The victim card is getting very tired.
Posted by: s.b. | September 6, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Sure Concerned, Sure
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
obama’s mother is a u.s. citizen. nothing more is required for proof of citizenship.
Posted by: antijake | September 6, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
“Zogby has McCain up by 4 points”
Zogby? Never heard of it.
I’ll go with the ABCNews poll, since I am blogging here at ABCNews.com.
If you like Zogby’s “poll” then maybe you ought to blog on Zogby.
Posted by: clifton | September 6, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
lol s.b. Its true, they’re doing it every day. You guys are getting tired of Obama defending himself and fighting back.
If you expect us to give up, you are delusional.
This woman doesn’t know what the vp does every day. She doesn’t belong in office if she has to ask the question.
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Grace, every person should also think about Wright, Ayers and Rezko before they pull the lever.
Posted by: Patty | September 6, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Governor=Accomplishment
Soup Kitchen Orgainizer=Hmmmmmmm
LOOKS LIKE THE WHEELS BE COMMIN OFF BARACK’S ESCALADE!!!!!
Posted by: Tim | September 6, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
If Bush with a Republican senate and house couldn’t repeal Roe v Wade or alter choice for American women one iota, McCain Palin won’t be able to with a Democratic house and senate. This election is not about Roe v Wade, at all. For me it is absolutely about how the democratic Party appointed a candidate with no experience or credentials and badly mistreated a female candidate far more qualified. My vote will go to McCain Palin. I don’t agree with them on everything, but I don’t agree that POTUS is a job for on the job trainig either. obama just isn’t qualified and the Democratic Party cares nothing for democracy.
Posted by: s.b. | September 6, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Obama is always whining.
Enough whining Obama.
Start acting like a man.
This Bambi wants to be CIC and talk with people like Putin.
This guy is a joke.
Posted by: McCain is the CIC we need not whiner bambi Obama | September 6, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
“50K new donors and $10M in 24 hours”.–Ryan C
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I read it somewhere, too. It could be from some foreign Donors, Soros. No doubt, he has some rich donors who have different socialist America in mind and Obama is their flag bearer. If the figures are true, it just goes to show how afraid they are of Palin choice and have doubled their contribution
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: vic | September 6, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Polls of Hillary supporters refusing to vote for Obama were holding steady up the to convention. I haven’t seen a good poll since, but the Obama/DNC handling of the convention has made them more enemies.
Another thing that’s confusing the polls is that a lot of HIllary people LEFT the Democratic party this summer, and more after the convention. Keep on this way, and sooner or later I suppose it would be down to Obama supporters and no one else.
In June and July it was about 9 million Hil’s rejecting Obama. In late Aug several polls mentioned that their figures were holding steady.
PUMA!
Posted by: tess durbervill | September 6, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Any democrat claiming they will vote for a republican ticket more extreme than Bush/Cheney is not a democrat.
1. The McCain/Palin ticket will assign conservative judges—-overturn Roe v Wade.
2. Start a war with Iran—already been hinted in their video during the convention.
3. Crash the economy—they’ll end the recession and move the country to the greatest depression it has ever faced.
So believe me when i tell you that if they’re posting as democrats, they’re not, they’re repubs on the McCain/Palin staff trying to demoralize us cause they don’t want us to turn out in Nov.
If you are happy how the country has been handled the past 8 years by all then you can join in bashing Obama. Otherwise, I’m sure the general public – who the Republicans seem to only remember a couple of months before elections – isnt falling for it this time.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Constant | September 6, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Mary
I think the Obama folks are the ones that are brainwashing people! McCain folks are just pointing out the truth. The Obama mania is so sickening that I and millions of others are leaving the Democrat Party and are actively working against Obama. All his speeches are about are how people are trying to do this and that against him. He is trying to play the victim, race card and every other card he can play. We want a man in the WhiteHouse not a whining baby! Fortunately there are enough non koolaid drinkers to tell Obama goodbye in November.
Posted by: Debbie | September 6, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
antijake, I agree. That about sums up whats going to happen with the question of McCain not being a natural born citizen as well. Its not an important issue, and it’ll just be dropped.
Posted by: Mike | September 6, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
It’s the McCain camp that’s been playing the victim card. He’s sunk so low, he’s not the man he was eight years ago when the current Bush smeared him in a way designed to enflame racists. It’s most telling that McCain has hired him – and his campaign has pointedly told the american people this election won’t be over the issues, it will be personality.
Me and my friends aren’t playing that game.
I don’t think McCain has what it takes to be President, for crying out loud he knows nothing about the internet and new technology.
Posted by: Disgusted | September 6, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
“Polls of Hillary supporters refusing to vote for Obama were holding steady up the to convention. I haven’t seen a good poll since, but the Obama/DNC handling of themiese convention has made them more en.”
Most polls have his Hillary suppport in the mid 70′s post convention. About 10% undecided and 15% for McCain.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Rick Davis, Sen. John McCain’s campaign manager, who said issues don’t count!
Go ask the voters Rick about rising cost of food at the store, about the price at the gas pump, the list goes on…
What concerns the voters is that your VP isn’t ready and Schmidt has to train her before she is comfortable to met the press and I bet it won’t be the mainstream press! Just the conservative
press.
So now you guys are trying to distract with this story? A Republican VP who can’t talk to the media right through Nov 4th. But she can attack and steal the headlines for the next 8 weeks.
Right now she will only talk to the conservative voters which leaves out all the rest of America. And this will give her the right to hog the headlines with Schmit’s poll driven attack ads? I hope the media and the majority of Americans see through your ploy!
Posted by: Katherine | September 6, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
WTH? He played the race card, now he’s playing the religion card? This guy is SUCH a zero!
Posted by: Kerri | September 6, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Hillary’s hero was RFK and she was mentioning how late the primaries went when he was killed in june. Obama smeared her with that.
Hillary said it took LBJ to get the civil rights legislation done and Obama used that to make her out to be a racist.
Obama campaign put out a 4 page document accusing Bill Clinton of being a racist.
When will Obama stop making these allegations against good people and destroying their reputations.
Obama should apologize to Bill Clinton.
Obama enough already stop your allegations.
Posted by: Obama smeared Bill and Hillary with the race card | September 6, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Constant
Obama=Jimmy Carter=Recession, Higher Gas Prices, more terror attacks on US soil, more welfare checks for the lazy bums that don’t want to work, etc.
Mcain/Palin-Progress in every area, respect around the world!
Posted by: Debbie | September 6, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Listen McCain, its’ the economy stupid. you republicans have bent over backwards for corporate america always telling us to be patient, wait for the trickle down.
Well damn it, that was just a crock so we’ve had it and we are voting in change, OBAMA!
Posted by: Red White and BLUE | September 6, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Constant, oh I better lock my doors the DNC is after me! Actually, I’m more afraid of P. Diddy.
Posted by: Gretchen | September 6, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Obama has really lost his mojo.
Once again creating fictitious and hypothetical opponents against which to fight? Is he serious?
I think this comes down to Obama’s ego. He refuses to believe that someone couldn’t like him or vote for him, so he has to construct these arguments for himself that the reason they don’t like him are things like race or religion.
Not every loves Barack, and the sooner he realizes that the better.
Posted by: ja | September 6, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
I’m a democrat who hasn’t changed my registration to republican. I’m just messing with ya man.
Posted by: tony | September 6, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
ja, this has nothing to do with Obama or his ego, this is about us. And we will do our best to make sure he gets elected. I’m sorry that bothers you so much. We’re tired of watching the people of this country lose everything they have, while these corporate CEOs line their pockets.
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
The McCain camp is playing the gender card. On Morning Joe last friday or thursday I believe when asked if Palin would give an interview the McCain camp said she doesn’t have too. They said no one really cares of her views because it’s McCain running for presidency.
This is a women a heartbeat away from the presidency and the American people shouldn’t know her views on the critical issues.
This will backfire BIG time. The McCain camp is hell bent on making this election easier for Obama.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 6, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I wonder if Obama see’s dead people?
Posted by: WIvoter | September 6, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
I really applaud you Democrat women for standing on your principals and values and not caving in like most even though they don’t really want Obama. That shows INTEGRITY!!! I respected Hillary alot until she started backing Obama. I know her party forced her but it was so sad to watch her, knowing she really can’t stand him. I am an Independent and with all that is known about Obama, I would never vote for him.
Posted by: jewels | September 6, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
One of the most interesting quirks about polling, is that most of it is done to random voters “home” phone numbers. The Obama volunteer base has done an amazing job of galvanizing young voters and registering first time voters in huge numbers. I think it is fair to say that most young adults age 18-25 do not have home phones, only cell phones. This is a large voting contingent that is not being polled and they are strongly leaning Obama. This will be the year the young adult vote will really make a difference and be heard.
Posted by: Amy T | September 6, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
oh Martin, give it a rest. The man is not calling anyone racist.
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Vanessa, when Obama was running against Hillary (The Obama camp called Hillary every disgusting sexist name in the book- what do you say to that. Of course the Mccain people are being watchful they have every right to.
That is why so many of Hillary Clinton people will vote for McCain and Palin, And please don’t give me a sermon of how if your a Hillary Clinton supporter you can’t vote for Sarah Palin- Just watch…
Posted by: mimi362 | September 6, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
I hope no-one who votes Republican complains after the election if they kept the Republicans in power and things continue downhill and Karl Rove still controls.
Posted by: Chip | September 6, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
This is the second time the McCain campaign has accused Obama of playing the race card. Are they trying to make it look like Obama is running for President just because of his race? And he has gotten where he is just because of race? Why do they feel so threatened that they have to continually bring it up? Yet McCain chose Palin just because she is a woman to outdo the Democrat’s history-making candidate. PPllease! I hope everyone can see through their smoke screen.
Posted by: Connie | September 6, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Sarah Palin is not qualified to be Vice President. It took Caribou Barbie 6 yrs at 6 different schools to get a 4 yr degree in journalism, with a minor in sportscasting. She is not even qualified to teach a class. She has no foreign or national security experience. She is hiding away now studying to try to come up to speed in order to debate Joe Biden.
She’s not qualified.
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
I haven’t heard McCain say any thing suggesting Obama is Muslim, but I know a lot of Americans who think he is. It is kind of strange Obama has to refute a lie before the lie is made.
Posted by: Dan | September 6, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Actaully the Gallup stated the post convention Obama gained 81% of Hillary supporters. I believe 10-13% will go to McCain.
You must be part of that 10%. Great for you.
Fact is Obama is leading and based on the latest polls state by state it seems to be a landslide.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 6, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Connie, you can expect to see a lot of accusations against Senator Obama. The repubs will come up with more lies and distortions. Its called desperation, just like the Palin pick was a sign of desperation to get the womens vote.
They will continue to put up a smoke screen, thats the only way they win.
Lies and innuendo is all they have. No plans, no solutions for the current problems. They just count on voters being ignorant.
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
hillfany, as usual you guys are confused. Sarah can lie about Senator Obama all she wants, but he’s going head to head with McCain, not the pitbull with lipstick. She needs to keep studying and keep her ego behind closed doors. She’s not qualified.
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Factcheck,
I have no doubts that Palin is the sort of individual who would say such things but without proof you just can’t accuse her.
In other rumor news, I think it was a bad idea for the McCain campaign to pick a fight with the National Enquirer.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
LOL, since so many musisicians have told the McCain campaign to stop using their music without authorization they are now using Bush’s anthem from 2004!
Can you feel the change!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
All of you Obama people stop preaching and telling us we can’t vote for McCain/Palin if we supported Hillary Clinton- You know what wait and see.
I would rather have McCain who loves his country than someone who cries Racism every time someone disagrees- Obama’s arrogance and immaturity is what caused such a terrible divide in this country. He could have put Hillary on the ticket but he didn’t want to share the lime light- Tooooo Bad jerk.
Posted by: mimi362 | September 6, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Mike and Factcheck: I would not try to spread that rumor without any factual evidence. The WH and the Press has used the trick of using “unnamed sources” for spreading WH and GOP-propaganda.
Please stay away from such tactics. It has a clear danger of blowing up in your face. There is far enough damning info available on Sarah and John that can be factually sourced and checked.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 6, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Yes, Westmoreland, a Republican congressional member from Georgia, calls Obama “uppity.”
While Harry Reid, the Democratic U.S. Senate Majority “Leader,” calls Palin “shrill.”
Let me see on which end that one balances on my scales.
Posted by: Lee | September 6, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
“Recall: McCain’s campaign sent out a fundraising appeal claiming the “Obama-Biden Democrats” had gone after the Palin family and then were able to list zero examples of any such efforts by the Democratic ticket.”
Posted by: Republicans are Hypocrites | September 6, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
McCain: Misleader-in-Chief
The McCain campaign stole American flags from the Obama campaign and then tried to claim they were thrown out. Stop lying John McCain.
McCain is more of the same.
Posted by: formerRepublican | September 6, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
…says the campaign complaining about the so-called “liberal media” being unfair and sexist toward Sarah Palin…
Posted by: Max | September 6, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
All of you Obama people stop preaching and telling us we can’t vote for McCain/Palin if we supported Hillary Clinton- You know what wait and see.
I would rather have McCain who loves his country than someone who cries Racism every time someone disagrees- Obama’s arrogance and immaturity is what caused such a terrible divide in this country. He could have put Hillary on the ticket but he didn’t want to share the lime light- Tooooo Bad jerk.
Posted by: mimi362 | Sep 6, 2008 10:45:24 PM
There you go spreading smears implying Obama doesn’t love our Country… Find something new, it’s old.
Posted by: John | September 6, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
I just read something that I did not know. Biden has been teaching a Consitutionla law class since 1991.
Wow two people who can teach Constituional law on one ticket!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Lee, Reid called Palin’s *political attacks* shrill and sarcastic.
There’s a difference.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 6, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Patty, I’ve looked into the situations and concluded they’re not a big deal — especially Wright. This religious fixation the country’s going through is completely gross.
What happened to being a country with freedom of religion, when we’re making candidates do “how Christian are you” tests? Back off, religious nuts.
Posted by: Grace | September 6, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
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Why would America -REWARD- complete Republican failure ?
We wont.
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Posted by: PulSamsara | September 6, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Samantha:
lolol. Obama is a whiner. And, let’s not forget, his claws are coming out, we knew how he’d react when he was cornered, and he thinks he is Wide Erp, etc., etc., etc…. lolololol
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 6, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
It’s over for the King Obama- He’s a loser and all because he was to immature, and to arrogant to even consider Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voices. He didn’t care about her or any of us so why should we vote for him? I’m not.
Posted by: mimi362 | September 6, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
If Obama can’t win without making false accusations and playing the race card, he should just drop out.
Posted by: mark | September 6, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Rick Davis, Mr. arrogant, Karl Rove clone, who told the press he doesn’t feel the need to have Palin do interviews, if it doesn’t suit McCain’s campaign needs. Why would anyone listen to anything he says, unless you want to buy the swamp land.
Posted by: MarRey57 | September 6, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Hillary went after Obama like a rabid pit bull. So much so, that her words are being used as commercials for McCain. I can’t think of one thing Obama said that sank to the level of Hillary’s attacks. Even so, he offered to help pay her campaign debts. As far as choosing Hill/Bill for vice president, he would have had to have been crazy–too many people loathe her and Bill. I’m a woman, too, but I’m an American first. Tell me, what did Obama do to you that you’re willing to flush what’s left of our country down the toilet?
Posted by: Laraine Harrison | September 6, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Maybe Phil Gramm was right. Reading this, we’ve truly become a nation of whiners. I wish everyone would just shut up, look at the issues that are important to them and vote accordingly. The finger pointing, name calling and hysterics are not meant to convince others so much as to prove the poster is right and everyone else is wrong. That’s all I have to say. Good night.
Posted by: Doug | September 6, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
MarRay, thats because while she’s ready to be vice president, she’s not quite ready to campaign for it.
Posted by: Turd Blossom | September 6, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
The “Palin” buzz is played to change mccain’s image from a boring old man who’s been pushing his resume since 8 years now to be president….Palin is a nice woman, but he’s using her like a tool to reach what he couldn’t do on his own. This is what sexist is, I’d say…It’s so sad to see what people can do or say to reach what they want even at this old age. I am not the only one who can see, the whole country see … obama is winning with land-slide.
Posted by: Taay | September 6, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
It’s over for the King Obama- He’s a loser and all because he was to immature, and to arrogant to even consider Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voices. He didn’t care about her or any of us so why should we vote for him? I’m not.
Posted by: mimi362 | Sep 6, 2008 10:58:33 PM
Why do you keep repeating yourself? You should be thanking him, cause if he happens to lose she can run again in 4 years instead of him sealing the deal for 8 years and her stuck as a sidekick. Open your eyes a bit and quit whining…you’re taking after Hillary.
Posted by: John | September 6, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Why is no one talking about the fact that Sarah Palin is a member of a crazy church (Assembly of God) that believes we are living in the “end times?” They believe this is a good thing–the world ending soon–they want it to happen as soon as possible, and that Alaska will be one of the places that is “saved.” Palin said the war in Iraq is a mission from God and her “lipstick” joke came from a book by John Hagee, who has had a strong influence on her church. Hagee has said it would be good if the east coast of the US were bombed. Do you really want this woman to be a heartbeat from the presidency?
This is no joke. She is an extremely dangerous woman.
Posted by: mdj | September 6, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
The entire GOP plays the sexism victimization card long, loud, furiously and repeatedly all week long. And almost no one calls them on it. Now they’re whining AGAIN about Obama supposedly playing the race victimization card, allegedly for the second time. Double standard anyone?
Posted by: Seanny53 | September 6, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Where do you live in a city or the country? McCain is for “country first..yehaww..”
what a joke
Posted by: Lawrence | September 6, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
McCain/Palin – the best ticket we have had since Reagan. A new era is going to come back to America. No more wasteful spending – corruption is going to be taken head on. Obama n Biden are part of the spending problem. Last year, 88% of the time Obama voted for earmark spending. McCain voted 0% of the time for earmarks. Obama is going down along with his Michigan mayor friend. There is no way that the majority of America will vote for the most liberal and unexperienced man in the history of running for the Presidency who we still really don’t know.
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Barack “Who’s Sane” Obama!
Posted by: ann | September 6, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
It seems to me, everyone is comparing Sarah with Obama. The big picture is the inexperience of both but one key issue. One is running for president, the other for VP – big difference. I like many other minority women, like Sarah because I can relate to her. I am tired of lawyers running the US, great orators but that is their line of business – I am counting on “The Defiant Ones” McCain/Palin.
Anita
Posted by: Anita Gutierrez | September 6, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
McCain and his intellectual partner will try to promote change. They will complete the change from democracy to theocracy, they will complete the change of the supreme court being a separate branch of government to being an arm of the presidency, they will encourage more and greater climate change, and of course change the Constitution to eliminate some of those pesky “rights” restrictions. Oh, they’ll be agents of change alright. But, I don’t think this is the change the middle class is anticipating. But maybe it’s what they deserve if they vote for them.
Posted by: mich | September 6, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
I am proud that America has proven naysayers wrong by choosing a Black person to be a major presidential candidate.
There has been a lot of din about things that really do not matter in this election. I am proud to see so many of my friends see clearly past all this background noise. We see past all this and keep focus on the truly important things in this election.
I will be so proud when we cast our votes to say “no thanks” to the kind of government that caters to the rich and big corporate interests. My friends and I are independent. We see that actions speak louder than words, and when John McCain proposes large tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% in this country at a time when we are in a 10 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT, that he does not really care about the future of this country.
When he continues to push the privatization of Social Security, I see that he doesn’t care about our savings. A market crash, and the Social Security Savings would be gone. The only people this proposal benefits are the corporations whose stock prices will rise as the Social Security pool goes into the stockmarket pool.
McCain is a phony, and I can see that clearly, as an independent and an independent thinker
Posted by: Independent | September 6, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Obama voted along the do nothing most unpopular Democratic controlled Senate 97% of the time and then picks Biden as his running mate. Give me a break. If Obama is change then Hillary Clinton is a supermodel. Not.
Trying to tie McCain to George Bush is a bunch of fluff. Everyone knows that McCain is his own man. Democrats are really reaching and wasting everyone’s time to try to convince people that McCain represents the Bush era. Bush never would have taken on his own party and even rebuke them at the National Convention. It takes a big man to stand up to his own party. Vote McCain/Palin if you have a brain.
Posted by: Obamas Voting Record | September 6, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
When will Palin answer questions at a press conference, rather than just feeding us canned lines?
Posted by: Paul | September 6, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
PUMA’s have all but guaranteed that Obama will not be elected. Now that is a movement you can believe in.
Posted by: Sandy | September 6, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Who is this guy Obama?
What has he done for this country or Americans?
This is the blank part behind those soaring speaches
Posted by: jon | September 6, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
The “Palin” buzz is played to change mccain’s image from a boring old man who’s been pushing his resume since 8 years now to be president….Palin is a nice woman, but he’s using her like a tool to reach what he couldn’t do on his own. This is what sexist is, I’d say…It’s so sad to see what people can do or say to reach what they want even at this old age. I am not the only one who can see, the whole country see … obama is winning with land-slide
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1. I think Palin can hold her own and is definitely not being used.
2. Again Obamabots can stop it with the ageism and are alienating voters over 50. I am in my 30′s so it does not offend me but you guys obviously know nothing about reaching out to the older senior crowd. You put down McCains POW experiences which puts off a lot of VETs. Inclusion goes beyond race.
Posted by: Samantha | September 6, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Obama is crying again. I’m a victim. I’m a victim.
The only people who are victims are his constituents.
Posted by: Pete | September 6, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
to compare palin to obama is absurd
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You are absolutely right. Obama is an arrogant empty suit and Palin is a liberals nightmare – more likable, eloquent, beautiful, and actually accomplished things in her life. Obama has ridden off the backs of ignorant people like you his entire life. His only claim to fame has come from his flattery and deceiving people into voting for him so he can write about how great he is. I can’t believe people can not see the arrogance of this man. Palin said it best, “Some people use change to promote their careers and others like John McCain use their careers to promote change.”
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Blame the Republicans for Congress. They’ve been the do nothing Congress for 6 of the 8 years. This do nothing claim is false considering Republicans have the record for filibusters in this Congress. So if nothing is past in time, blame the blowhard Republicans for talking their way out of votes.
Posted by: MM | September 6, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Get a clue. Palin has more executive experience then Obama has. And she’s not the first name on the ticket! She was mayor, and a governor! A governor that dealt with over 11 billion in tax payer dollars. So she doesn’t have foreign policy experience. Neither does Obama and I repeat, he’s running for PRESIDENT. Mccain has more then enough to compensate for Palin’s lack. Obama has NO credentials. He is a senator, that can’t claim credit for any significant laws, and voted Present more often then voicing an opinion. He taught constitutional law, but no student have come forward to pay him compliments. He was a community organizer, and his own boss said he didn’t accomplish anything, but was well liked in the community.
And for those who say that Mccain is another Bush are just uneducated. Did you pay attention to the press conservative radio gave him???? They HATE HIM. And are only supporting him because they dislike Obama so much! Mccain has a long history of pissing the republican party off, and at one point even considered leaving the party to be an independent. The only thing Bush and Mccain have in common is that they agree the Iraq war needs to be won, and not abandoned and left to Iran.
Vote Mccain/Palin!!!
Posted by: Getaclue | September 6, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Obama is a whiner….the McCain campaign should make an ad out of all his ranting…it would be truly entertaining!!!
Posted by: former dem | September 6, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
McCain isn’t much of a straight talker anymore.
Posted by: James | September 6, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
If you like the last 8 years
well
your love McSame like Bush
War
high gas prices
house devalue
lies
corruption
etc, etc, etc
Posted by: GHM | September 6, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
The media and Obama will be the biggest losers of this election.
Posted by: Daniel | September 6, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Look at all the right wingers who are so upset.
Your hypocritical champion McCain is going down!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
I see the Republicans still not talking about the issues. Instead of talking about Obama start talking about the economy.
Obama/Bidem
Posted by: MM | September 6, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
I will vote for whichever party has the best healthcare reform plan., I don’t care if they’re democrat or republican.
I’m not asking the government to pay for my healthcare — I just need more healthcare options to choose from. There doesn’t seem to be any competition
in the health insurance industry, so they can bully their customers into paying ridiculous premiums.
Posted by: paul | September 6, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
I am offended that Obama is offended by the fact McCain is offended….wait a minute I’m not sure about the order of that, oh well. Did you hear, Hillary really laid into Gov. Palin today…..he he just kidding, she campaigned for other democrats that she supports, such a smart lady, I just love her! She really like to help out Obama but her schedule is just packed for the next couple months. I kinda of like Gov. Palin and I can live with McCain for 4 years.
Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Hillary Clinton is now supporting Palin. She calls her a real inspiration to all females.
Posted by: Kathy | September 6, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
It looks like Mr. Davis is desperately trying to change the subject. Gov. Palin lied about the bridge to nowhere and her opposition to pork. Gov. Palin is under investigation for abuse of power and has already been caught lying to the public about the matter. Gov. Palin left the town of Wasilla swimming in debt to the tune of $3000 per resident ($19 million). Davis is trying to hide the fact that Gov. Palin appears to be incapable of fielding questions on foreign and domestic policies, or about why she is so frantically trying to spike the bipartisan investigation of her abuse of power. Why is Sarah Palin afraid to speak to the press? Could it be she is afraid of being exposed as unready to fill the role of VP?
Posted by: ed | September 6, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Everyone knows that facts have a liberal bias.
Posted by: Jana | September 6, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
how about the repub bottom dweller who called the obama’s ‘uppity’
and claimed he did not know what it meant…and he was born in 1950 in the south (georgia)!
these guys can’t open their mouth without racisim and/or a lie…this guy did both
Posted by: Arthur | September 6, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Again, I plead with any Obama supporter to post Obama’s resume’ of qualifications as an executive so the good folks of America can make a reasoned choice. Would you not want to see the resume’ of a person that is seeking an executive position in your orginization? Is this such a tough request? Or is it possible that Obama is devoid of executive experience and therefore has no resume’.
Posted by: raloree | September 6, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Marty- how do the democrats fight dirty when Palin got off and running by spending her entire RNC speech bashing Barack? If what you are saying is true- your folks should not start something they can’t finish. Plus the republicans lie so much that most of the fact checking that was done after the conventions was based on the repubs statement, most of it was lies.
Posted by: Chip | September 6, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Sorry my mistake I was referring to whoever is trying to pretend to be Barrack. (Barrack Hussien Obama) Spread a bunch of lies and inuendo, spread the racial hatred and fear toward Barrack. Then when he fights back, call him a whiner. It’s working I can see that. You can’t see passed your own parties BS. You really need a vacation dude, so you can figure this out.
Pretty much the Republican Philosophy. Drive em into the ground, then when they fight back, call them a bunch of whiners. McCain’s ecomomic advisor Phil Gramm “You are all in a mental recession, we’ve become just a nation of whiners”
Posted by: Billy Bob | September 6, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
RepublicansareHypocrites:
Oh, please.
As a Democrat who voted for Hillary, do you know how many of those cry-baby emails I receive from Obama, his wife, Howard Dean, and now Biden??
At least two or three DAILY.
All they do is cry and WHINE about John McCain and the other Republicans, and what they’re all saying about poor Obama.
So please don’t expect any special consideration because the McCain camp is truthfully contacting people about the shameful way the MSM has been treating Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Lee | September 6, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
the only people voting for mccain are bigots
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Or we just have wisdom, do our homework, and can see that Obama has absolutley nothing in his resume to qualify him for being President of our great nation. Now if ignorant people who don’t do their homework want to vote for him go ahead but fortunately most Americans will see through the rhetoric and look at the record – ooops the problem is that there is none.
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Everytime Obama is down in the polls he cries racism. He even had the nerve to do it to a former, and Democratic, President. Obama is ridiculous……
Posted by: Sarah | September 6, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
In answer to:
“It’s so sad to see what people can do or say to reach what they want”
This can be said for Obama too. He has proven in his political career that he is capable of many underhanded things to reach his goal, (please read the article in the New Yorker with the famous cover) and on a personal note even dropping his 20 year “mentor” … added to his near to empty “Things I accomplished list”….
How sad many Americans are so superficial & polarized that they don’t make the effort to educate themselves to see both sides of the coin to identify who is tellin em what they want to hear the most.
“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me” – good old American wisdom.
Posted by: I wish | September 6, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Country First!
This expression has an extra vowel.
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Posted by: four tee too | September 6, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
The only cynicism I detected in the article is from McCain’s campaign
Posted by: jbird | September 6, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Republicans have officaly become the party of whinners.
Posted by: scott f. | September 6, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Everytime Obama is down in the polls he cries racism. He even had the nerve to do it to a former, and Democratic, President. Obama is ridiculous……
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There is no way the the majority of Americans will vote for a guy who has been campaigning for 2 years and no one still knows who he is because he hasn’t accomplished anything.
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Barack hammers McCain; McCain hammers Barack. It’s the same old politics as usual from hypocrites who are trying to run on a platform of bipartisanship.
I’m not going to defend Phil Gramm, but when you use that quote, you’re using it out of context. He was referring more to the whining politicians in Washington than John Q Public.
Posted by: rdean | September 6, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Rick Davis is a congenital liar, perfect representative for both McCain and Palin!
PS – Please give us a break from your phony “lifelong Democrat, now throwing away everything I believe in to vote Republican” stories. You wore that out over Hillary
Posted by: Michael | September 6, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Sarah,
Barack has not cried racism, he as been victimized with very nasty emails circulating, I will send it to you if you like because I am sure I have another one in my inbox. By the way have you ever been called anything negative in regards to your race? Dont EVER tell someone that is being treated that way that they are crying racism. People acting like that are racist. Do you know how many people are not voting on him strictly because of race? Quite a few, ask the folks in W VA, Kentucy and Alabama. Be grateful that you can say someone is “crying racism” if it has’nt happened to you, because it is a way of life for some.
Posted by: Chip | September 6, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Lee, I get those e-mails too. But they always ask for money. They are even asking for at least $5.00 now. Times must be hard.
I just send them back saying “This Democrat is voting for McCain/Palin. Evertime you send me an e-mail asking for money, I will make donation to McCain.”
It is starting to get expensive, but worth every penny.
Posted by: tlatexaspuma | September 6, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
One good thing is Americans are starting to pay attention to what’s happening on the playing field instead of the sidelines. Truth is Barak does not have any executive experience. Sarah Palin does … but she is just running for VP where she will be on the “sidelines” and Barak is running for pres where he will have to make decisions, something he has shown to shy away from in both public offices he has held.
Barak will not change anything. If anything he will make things worse. At the same time I can’t see McCain being a great president. So what’s an American to do when those who hold the power (Both Parties) do not serve the needs and wants of the people. There is an answer to that if you think about it.
Posted by: JDF | September 6, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
I read an interesting “letter to the editor” in which a man who escaped communist Cuba said he was reminded of the 1950′s when a young charismatic man campaigned for “change”. He promised “change” that would guarantee free education, free health care, every man equal. Even the press went along, but no one checked who his friends were or what his brand of “change” would cost.When it was all over, education was free but it got you nowhere; health care was free but third-world rated; people were equal but equally poor; the press now worked for him and everyone was sorry they said, ‘Viva Fidel’ !
Posted by: Jon | September 6, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Starting to look like Palin could be the Democrats’ best weapon in the campaign.
Posted by: Data | September 6, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Instead of taking a job in the Corporate World Barack Obama became a community organizer in a poor black neighborhood in Chicago. It is wonderful he wanted to help those less fortunate than he. Or was he truly using those less fortunate to push forward his political career. During his time as a community organizer be befriended supported such as Ayers and the Woods Foundation and the Reverend Wright.
Unscrupulous’ you know it.
Barack Obama is willing to use anyone he needs to enhance his public standing. Intelligent as he is, he believes he can distance himself at some time in the future from controversial characters. This he is doing now. Any person in his past, who doesn’t fit his needs, is now rebuked then denounced publicly. He does not need these people any longer so severs ties with them. The Reverend Wright (being a pretty crafty guy) sees through this. So to get even, Reverend Wright keeps trying to embarrass Barack publically. I might add he is doing a pretty good job of it. The media and liberal bloggers who support Barack is now being denounced by him for the treatment of Sarah Palin’ family.
Politically, as John McCain must distance himself from George Bush, Barack Obama must distance himself from President Bill Clinton (formerly known as Americas First Black President) as often referred to by many African Americans. The Clintons well known and supported by the black community now pose a threat to exposing how much Barack thinks like a typical politician (proven by choosing Joe Biden a true Beltway Brother for over 30 years). A vast majority of what Barack talks about in his speeches are things which sound good to the black and liberal communities. Promises Barack make (but actually knows will not happen) when they do not come to fruition will be blamed on congress.
According to the ACLU Joe Biden rates a 60% voting record on civil rights. This means he only supports 6 out of 10 civil rights amendments. Then again Barack Obama has a 79% lifetime rating from the ACLU, and a 50% rating to date for the 2006-2007 legislative session.
The last group of people Barack Obama has not (yet) alienated is the African American voter. If Barack is successful in gaining the “White House” the African American voter will be the next people he distances himself from.
So I ask… who is the victim here?
Posted by: Luigi | September 6, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
I do dislike a man that sold his country out, and now rides on his ‘hero status’
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Dude, are you writing your emails from a cave in Afghanistan? You certainly can’t be American if you are saying McCain sold his country out becuase he was a POW for 5 long years. You just help our cause by writing like a lunatic. People who love our country will stand up and vote for an American hero.
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
“PS – Please give us a break from your phony “lifelong Democrat, now throwing away everything I believe in to vote Republican” stories. You wore that out over Hillary.”
It won’t really be worn out until the day after Election Day – after we vote in President McCain. :D
PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 – In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”
- Susan B. Anthony
Posted by: LeeLee07 | September 6, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Obama is scared – he is calling Hillary Clinton for help and portraying himself once again as a victim. Give me a break!
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
“Starting to look like Palin could be the Democrats’ best weapon in the campaign.”
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Yes, so it seems. A weapon of self destruction if they don’t shut up and stop whining. Silly Obamabots.
Posted by: Samantha | September 6, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Since folks on the right have had a difficult time just refraining from highlighting Obama’s name, I’d say Obama’s claims are accurate.
Posted by: jds | September 6, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
I love the fact that all of you that are bashing Barack are the main one’s that will benefit from the tax break he will implement for the middle class. I bet you will surely smile and take that break graciously. While McCain’s tax break is only for the very wealthy– look it up, fact check it. You guys sing McCains praises and he could care less about any of you (unless you are extremely rich that is)
Posted by: Daisy | September 6, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Dems need to get over the Bush thing. He’s not running for office. You are living in the past. Comparing McCain to Bush.If that is true then it’s the same as comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson and Rev Sharpton. You have been so blinded by Obama’s hate you can no longer see anything but hate and cannot be objective for the country. Obama NEEDS the country to go bad, he needs people to suffer, he needs to housing to fail he needs all of these bad things to happen. He plays on it, he HOPES for it, otherwise no one would have considered him for anything, let alone a Dem nominee.
Do you really thing Bush is the cause of housing failures, high gas prices? Ut is the free enterprise system that is the cause. Yes, CONGRESS who has done nothing, should step in and look at the mortgage companies, the credit companies and should have 2-3 years ago when people began complaining. But the DEMOCRAT controlled houses were too busy whining about how they can’t do anything. They won’t do anything, even if the President was a Dem. They are too busy doing the old Washington politics. Pelosi, Biden, Kennedy, Clinton, Kerry etc. Obama has no change. He took up with the very thing he has said he won’t and has done the things he said he wouldn’t (lobby money, big oil money.) Obama has led the Dem Party down the road of hate.
Posted by: dragonfly777 | September 6, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
I’ll take community organizer helping the poor and putting his country first, over military man, who screwed up and crashed his plane in Vietnam to fight another war for no reason. Maybe the Republicans will get another big POW war hero out of Iraq someday, so we can tell his story and have him run for President. Hey maybe that was the reason Bush went into Iraq? I never thought of that.
Posted by: service | September 6, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
mccain is a no good man, driven by ego
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If that is not the pot calling the kettle black I don’t know what is. Ego is when you write two memoirs as a public official without writing not one piece of legislation or law. Ego is when you can’t admit you were wrong when the surge in Iraq worked. Ego is making your own Presidential seal. Ego is stating your qualified to be President because you are running for President. OBAMA = EGO
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
I was an avid, active supporter of John McCain in 2000. His campaign staff, his stated priorities and the sincerity of his “Straight Talk Express” was an attraction for many who saw the need for character change in the White House.
Not now. It is too strong and unfair to ssay he “sold out”. But, his judgment on the war, his adoption of numerous right wing policies and political aides aand his over the top reliance on his POW experiemce have become distasteful. Palin, once the superficial honeymoon is over, will be a huge liability a she has no expertise, nor any class in the way she conducts herself. Obama is a thoughtful, progressive guy with new ideas and the ability to inspire younger and older voters. 2000? Sure, MCain was my guy. No way in 2008. His day has come and gone.
Posted by: steve | September 6, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Search4Truth
The next time you pass a homeless person on the street. Thank the community organizer you decides to organized the soup kitchen to feed that person.
McCain shouldn’t be elected because of his service, he should be elected becuase of the issues
Obama/Biden.
Posted by: MM | September 6, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
read my lipstick
noway, nowhow, nobama!!
Posted by: ncinla | September 6, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Jason,
Shelly (I) did not say that!!! Do me a favor and learn how to read the blogs before you call out a name and try to comment on them!!
Posted by: Shelly | September 6, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
I’ll take community organizer helping the poor
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A community organizer does not help the poor. They go door to door begging for money to help the organization they represent. A community organizer verses a war hero to be commander in chief. There sure are alot of ignorant people in this world.
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
TLZ
When your out of a job and you need to retrain. Don’t come running to those Community Organizers.
Posted by: MM | September 6, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
I believe Obama is aware that facts about his relationship to Ayers is about to become public . Obama is trying to do a pre-emptive strike before the news goes main stream.
The same could be true about some campaign connections to a muslim group here in the USA and the Obama camp is aware that the news will be coming out soon…
This explaination is pure speculation on my part…. But Oreilly has stated he questioned Obama about Rezco, Ayes , Wright ect .. The airing of Obamas interview with Oreilly will be Mon Tues Wed.
We shall see..
Posted by: neville | September 6, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Incredibly shrill hysterical cynicism from the Repubs, as usual. McCain proves that his soul and his integrity are long gone.
Like his weepy story about how the VC broke him, and then his buddy told him, “it’s ok, you tried your best.”
Karl Rove broke him again, only this time it’s not ok – there’s too much at stake in America today.
Republicans don’t care at all about America. Not one bit. Criminals.
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 6, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
People on this thread do not even know what a community organizer is. My family has operated non-profit organizations for over 40 years that feed the poor, help drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. A community organizer is a slick way for saying a volunteer (usually who goes door to door to ask for donations).
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
neville
you just disprove McCain’s argument that they are not saying Obama has muslim connections. The fact that you even think he does merits a a response.
Posted by: MM | September 6, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
I guess that is your defination for THE TRUTH.
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Incredibly shrill hysterical cynicism from the Repubs
Posted by: tlz | September 6, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
TLZ
Stop being narrow minded and insulting Community Organizers. They work with government, churches, religious groups, and non-profit organizations to serve our country. They are the ones doing the dirty work, not those that just foot the bill.
Posted by: MM | September 6, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Obama = Community Organizer in Chicago.
That is fine…but not a qualifer to be President of the USA..
By the way…How would you describe life and circumstances on the South Side of Chicago these days ..considering all the work Obama did there?
Did he help that community or did he USE it to provide the opprotunity for payback to those who supported him politically? aka Tony Rezco
Posted by: neville | September 6, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
tlz,
He did it in the south side of Chicago, trying to help the impoverished out of their situation. Did you know he had a Harvard Law Degree at the time and could have pretty much took the money and ran, but instead chose to help the less fortunate. Typical, you guys just love to hear all BS about Obama, but don’t really want to see him for what he is.
Posted by: service | September 6, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
SARAH PALIN makes John McCain look even older than he is. And he seemed more than willing to play that part on Thursday night. By the time he slogged through his nearly 50-minute acceptance speech — longer even than Barack Obama’s — you half-expected some brazen younger Republican (Mitt Romney, perhaps?) to dash onstage to give him a gold watch and the bum’s rush.
Still, attention must be paid. McCain’s address, though largely a repetitive slew of stump-speech lines and worn G.O.P. orthodoxy, reminded us of what we once liked about the guy: his aspirations to bipartisanship, his heroic service in Vietnam, his twinkle. He took his (often inaccurate) swipes at Obama, but, in winning contrast to Palin and Rudy Giuliani, he wasn’t smug or nasty.
The only problem, of course, is that the entire thing was a sham.
is nakedly evident, the speech’s central argument, that the 72-year-old McCain will magically morph into a powerful change agent as president, is a non sequitur. In his 26 years in Washington, most of it with a Republican in the White House and roughly half of it with Republicans in charge of Congress, he was better at lecturing his party about reform than leading a reform movement. G.O.P. corruption and governmental dysfunction only grew. So did his cynical flip-flops on the most destructive policies of the president who remained nameless Thursday night. (In the G.O.P., Bush love is now the second most popular love that dare not speak its name.)
Even more fraudulent, if that’s possible, is the contrast between McCain’s platonic presentation of his personal code of honor and the man he has become. He always puts his country first, he told us: “I’ve been called a maverick.” If there was any doubt that that McCain has fled, confirmation arrived with his last-minute embrace of Sarah Palin.
We still don’t know a lot about Palin except that she’s better at delivering a speech than McCain and that she defends her own pregnant daughter’s right to privacy even as she would have the government intrude to police the reproductive choices of all other women. Most of the rest of the biography supplied by her and the McCain camp is fiction.
Posted by: Arthur | September 6, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Good point – so much for Obama the Savior!
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By the way…How would you describe life and circumstances on the South Side of Chicago these days ..considering all the work Obama did there?
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Yeah, that’s right Grasshopper777, Bush has had nothing to do with any of the things that have gone wrong in this country for the past 8 years, so McCain voting with him 90% of the time is also blameless. By the same token, Clinton actually did not have sexual relations with that woman.
Posted by: mila | September 7, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Samantha
Obviously your not from Chicago. The south side is not as nearly as bad as it was in the 90s. Multiply what we have now by 3 times. Now there tearing down the projects, cleaning up the streets. My father is a cop and he knows that it is a lot safer then it use to be. But I guess Republicans don’t care about facts.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
“You folks are really reaching it must be a personality thing with that party everyone has to lie.
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When it comes to the DNC who has to lie? The DNC does a good job of blowing an election all on its own. You threw the better candidate Hillary under the bus and then did not have the good sense to put her on the ticket as VP. You wonder why you are only 2 points ahead in the polls according to Gallop.
Posted by: Samantha | September 7, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Yes Libertarian because the republican economy plan is working so well right now. (PLEASE) Like I said before, I bet you will be the first to benefit from it. Yes and I suppose you studied Economics in college right?
Posted by: Shelly | September 7, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
What you are saying below is due to the Contract with America led by the Newt Gingrich Republicans who shut down the government until Bill Clinton signed the Welfare Reform Act. Thanks for letting us know it is working. By the way, it is also working in Washington DC. Same thing you stated below.
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The south side is not as nearly as bad as it was in the 90s. Multiply what we have now by 3 times. Now there tearing down the projects, cleaning up the streets. My father is a cop and he knows that it is a lot safer then it use to be. But I guess Republicans don’t care about facts.
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
TLZ
McCain lifetime of experience.
Spent 26 years out of the 30 years where congress caved to lobbyist and didn’t fix the energy crisis. Graduated 5th from bottom of his class. Crashed 5 military fighter planes, confused sunnis and shiites, call divorced his wife after returning from POW, Iraq, 90% Bush, Worst voting Attendance, etc.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Poor Barack. The campaign is closing in on him. Despite all the lofty speeches, the assembled masses, the slick logos and seals, and help from NBC-MSNBC — he can’t change the fact he made a really stupid mistake — he didn’t choose Hillary as his VP. Now McCain has history (and momentum) on his side — and all Obama has are the words: ‘we told you so’ from 18 million women voters ringing in his ears!
Posted by: mpwynn | September 7, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
I love those “Country First” and “Service” slogans they had at the Repub Convention. Empty, meaningless slogans that exploit patriotism and the troops. Both parties are patriotic. Both parties support the troops. Trying to act like one party cares more is ridiculous and childish; it’s just a desperate way to try to get votes.
Obama’s speech at the Dem’s convention, surprisingly, was actually very issue-oriented. McCain relied on his POW experience and had less of anything relevant. And he lies about Obama raising taxes. He -is- raising taxes, but only for people with 200k+ incomes. Middle class people will actually see *more* return on their income–less tax.
Yep. Don’t believe the lies. For Middle Class America, Obama is the way to go. If you’re saving up for your third yacht, then you should probably go with McCain.
Posted by: Eric | September 7, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Ed from MA … instead of directing your anger at McCain you should be directing it at Kerry and Kennedy … even though Massachusetts voted for Hillary … they gave their votes to Obama … which has given the Democrats the sorriest candidate in the last 50 years … if not more!!
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 7, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
“Starting to look like Palin could be the Democrats’ best weapon in the campaign.”- Data
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Or the worst NIGHTMARE.
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: vic | September 7, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
TLZ
Allow me to school you. Mayor Daley is the reason why crime is low. Look it up, the added affect is that he is a Democrat and possible the most powerful mayor in the country.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Everyone ignores the fact that the former Vice Presidential Democrat candidate spoke on his behalf. That is historic and was totally ignored. Of course McCain appeals to members of both parties. His record shows it. Look it up.
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I’m wondering how McCain will manage to “reach across the aisle” to accomplish change, when he has alienated both sides.
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
McCain wants you to vote personality over substance
Obama wants you to vote substance over personality
Who should you vote for.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Hillary lost.
She lost on votes.
She lost on pledged delegates.
She lost on Super delegates.
She lost because they screwed around in Iowa and then had to blow an enormous amount of her money to play catchup. By the time SuperTuesday rolled around she went in with half of what they expoeted to have in her warchest. Obama killed her some SupTues states because she had zero prescence.
The DNC did nothing to her, Dean remained neutral throughout.
She fought a touhg battle but ultimately came up short. She has been magnaimous and supportive of Obama since
I know. I was a HIllary supporter. I volunteered.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 7, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Eric wrote: ” Both parties are patriotic. Both parties support the troops. Trying to act like one party cares more is ridiculous and childish; it’s just a desperate way to try to get votes.”
… wasn’t it Kerry (endorsed Obama) that told the students to stay in school and get good grades or they would end up in Iraq??
Posted by: Cassandra Washington | September 7, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Crime is directly related to where people live and whether or not they work. The fact is that the Welfare Reform Act caused people to work and changed neighborhoods. People became more responsible and with responsibility crime decreases. Those neighborhoods would not have changed if it were not for the Welfare Reform Act because there would have been no incentive to change them. I grew up in the Washington DC area in the projects and have seen the change their over the past 15 years. It has been remarkable.
Mayor Daley is the reason why crime is low. Look it up, the added affect is that he is a Democrat and possible the most powerful mayor in the country.
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Shelly,
Yes, as a matter of fact, I have a minor in economics from Oglethorpe University. Never did I say that I support Republicans or their econimic policies. However, raising taxes is not healthy for any economy, especially one in such a delicate state as ours.
Posted by: Libertarian Voice | September 7, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
MM … Obama did not get Lieberman re-elected … Lieberman was defeated by the Democratic liberal … and ran as an independent … and no Democrats endorsed him … not even your swami obami!!
McCain was a better friend to Lieberman than any of the Democrats.
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 7, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
I do believe you have that backwards…
It shoud be McCain = Substance
Obama = (arrogant) Personality
Palin = Both Substand and Personality
Be afraid be very afraid.
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McCain wants you to vote personality over substance
Obama wants you to vote substance over personality
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
He is not raising taxes for Everyone, anyway- how do you propose paying for all of this debt on this god awful war. 250 million a day. Nobody wants to pay taxes but they want to go to war.
Posted by: Shelly | September 7, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Exactly right. The libs totally dissed him and Al Gore is laughing all the way to the bank with his global warming crap.
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MM … Obama did not get Lieberman re-elected … Lieberman was defeated by the Democratic liberal … and ran as an independent … and no Democrats endorsed him … not even your swami obami!!
McCain was a better friend to Lieberman than any of the Democrats.
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
MM
You are correct about al queda flooding into Iraq after we removed Saddam..
And we have kicked their butts and stand on the verge of victory in Iraq over those radical islamic militants..
This was done DISPITE the constant attempt to undermine our victory by Obama and the Democrat party …
Obama and Biden BOTH opposed the surge.
Obama voted to NOT FUND OUR TROOPS
and you call that “patriotic”
Posted by: neville | September 7, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
TLZ
Nope I got it right. You tube Obama talking to people in Duryea, PA. Then listen to McCain at the Republican Convention.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Well, Senator Inhofe just said of Obama “Do you really want to have a guy as commander in chief of this country when you can question whether or not he really loves his country?”
Add this to the Republican Congressman calling Barack and Michelle Obama “uppity” a few days ago, along with many other slurs both blatant and under the table (emails, Sean Hannity screeds, etc)
Republicans ARE blatantly questioning Obama’s patriotism and American-ness. So, yes, I’d say he IS a “victim” of some pretty scurrilous attacks. And now it’s Obama’s fault that he’s being attacked in this way? Interesting.
Posted by: Lisa | September 7, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
wow i would hate to tell the Iraq people they aren’t worth fighting for.They are getting better over there all the time. No wonder people around the world hate us we only think about ourself . Hope we never need help because they will treat us like you want us to threat them.. Your on your own.Maybe we shouldn’t gone to Iraq but we did and you just want to leave them because our men and women are getting killed. The Iraq people get killed everyday. The people in the service knew when they signed up at any time they could go to war. They were not drafted.I have family in the service and they are proud to help the Iraq people.Most of the Iraq people are treating them better right now then Americans are and i tell you the service guys know it.Some guys in the service complain but most know their jobs and do it.You should be ashamed.
Posted by: Sue | September 7, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Obama was running a campaign because he was to advance his career to prove that Black Liberation Theology works. Black Liberation Theology is socialist propaganda suited to a particular race. He has capitalized on it beautifully suckering ignorant Americans to buy into his load of crap and buy his propaganda books. The Audacity of Hope is the title of a sermon by his infamous Black Liberation Theology pastor.
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Obama was running a campaign to change Washington to lift these kids out of poverty to get them off the streets.
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Obama told Orielly
” The surge has succeeded beyond our wildest dreams”
Obama voted against the surge and voted against funding our troops while they are fighting for victory in Iraq.
Obama and the Dems have a funny way of showing their “patriotism”
Posted by: neville | September 7, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Who cares about wit, when people are losing their homes, or jobs. Get real.
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How many people do you personally know losing their jobs and homes? Don’t believe the hype. The economy grew at 3.3% last quarter. The glass is half full and the sky is not falling.
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Shelly,
Since you asked…Lets start by cutting spending. Do you know that we spend more on our military than the other 9 of the top 10 military spending countries combined? Get rid of our bases in countries that are not at war.
Cut spending on other programs. Give incentives to come off the government doles. Get rid of our convluted income tax system and tax consumption (ie. Fair Tax).
By the way, historically, cutting taxes produces an increase in revenue to the government. More capital = more commerce = more income = more tax revenue. Less capital = less commerce = less income = less revenue. It is counterintuitive, but none the less true.
I don’t have a dog in this race as I will be voting for Bob Barr. So please don’t confuse me with a partisan fool backing his party.
Posted by: Libertarian Voice | September 7, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Black Liberation Theology is not theology at all. The only way it works is to promote socialism.
Do you even know what theology means? It is the Study of God! The only freedom one should talk about when it comes to theology is spiritual freedom. Not black power or freedom from earthly oppression. Things on this earth are nothing compared to eternity.
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
Obama–Young, inexperienced lawyer who is married to another lawyer who seems to not even like the county that her husband wants to be the leader of..
McCain– Mature war hero, experienced who is married to a younger good looking woman who owns a bunch of BEER DISTRIBUTORSHIPS.
Easy choice in my opinion
Posted by: neville | September 7, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Yeah Liberatarian but as soon as you talk about cutting bases (even ones not in war zones), the repubs lose their minds and start saying the people don’t care about the soldiers or the safety of our country.
Posted by: Shelly | September 7, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Vote Barack!
This country needs it’s soul back, Republicans have no soul, they’ve sold it to the devil.
Posted by: soulution | September 7, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Jo,
If I had a billion dollars, I would have worked hard for that money. It would be mine to do with what I wish. Why should it be taken by force and given to people that have not shown the same level of determination and ingenuity? Why should the government punish the successful and reward the less successful? Don’t we want more success in our country. It sounds to me like you should move to France where your Socialistic views have been manifested into double digit unemployment and a middle class standard of living akin to that of our poor.
Yes, trickle down economics works! It has kept this country as the number one economic power house for the past 30+ years.
Posted by: Libertarian Voice | September 7, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Samantha
You forget that Obama pass that death penalty reform, and he voted for the assault weapons band. To issues that Republicans would never do. So don’t try to tell me its Obama’s fault when the Republican national platform is that all guns should be OK everywhere.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Shelly,
Indeed, military is big business. Too many lobbiest working on the behalf of contractors have their noses in legislation. This is why the Dems and GOP cannot and will not solve the problems of our country be they economic, social, military, or other.
We need a viable 3rd party desperatly, but both sides of the asile are deathly afraid of loosing their phoney-baloney jobs.
Posted by: Libertarian Voice | September 7, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Liberatarian
Everyone is not going to be a billionaire, if it were so, there would be no service industry, no nursing assistants, hotel workers, restaurant workers, social workers, receptionists, cafeteria workers, teachers assistants etc etc. Plus lets look at the fact that everyone does not get paid the same wages. Women 67 cents for every dollar a man makes. With such disparages and jobs that need to be done, the government should assist with those in the service industry and pass laws for equal pay for everyone. Then perhaps the same dollar you used to start your process to be a billionaire, everyone else (especially women) will start out with the same dollar instead of 67 cents. Everyone does not start on the same footing.
Posted by: Shelly | September 7, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Man, I had a lot of typos in that last post. It is getting late and I am getting tired. Sorry about that. Going to bed. Good night all!
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Samantha
I said that Chicago is a lot better then it use to be. I didn’t say there weren’t any problems. Chicago is an excellent city, if I had choose anywhere to grow up it would be Chicago hands down. But that doesn’t mean we can’t improve ourselves.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Good night sheep. Rest well and vote for your respective parties. This will gurantee more of the same no matter who is elected. I have my exit stragey. In ten years I will retire in Costa Rica while my beloved country is brought to ruin by either the Democrats, Republicans, or, most likely, both.
Posted by: Libertarian Voice | September 7, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Untrue…they will respect her more because when in office she did the right thing. I would rather have Palin who does the right thing when elected than Obama Bin Biden who will make a bunch of empty promises and then tax and spend, and continue to allow earmarks.
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As American’s see video of the real Palin who campaigned in 2006, this election will be over.
Posted by: tlz | September 7, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
“Or the worst NIGHTMARE.
McCain/Palin 08″
America’s worst nightmare, to be precise.
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 7, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am
So Davis thinks the Snopes list of email lies about Obama is what…a figment of everyone’s imagination? Palin sure didn’t have any scruples about blaming ‘Obama people’ for anything and everything written about her.
Typical delusional Republican ‘thinking’.
Posted by: Tom J | September 7, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Samantha
You are beyond reach. If I were to prove to you that McCain was the devil you’d still vote for him. Throughout this blog you insulted me, my father, the city of chicago police departments, and church community organizers. Obama passed death penalty reform, racial profiling reform, legislation on rape and other hot topics but you don’t care to look at the record. You just want to throw cheap shots and vote for McCain.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
When McCain says change is coming
I’m afraid he means that we will change the state of the economy from a recession to a depression with his Bush economic policies.
Posted by: Presto Chango McCaino | September 7, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Again, the Republicans talk about non-issues. Why don’t they talk about McCain’s insider influence in bailing out Keating’s Saving and Loan bank? And about how that event is similiar to todays financial mess as he speaks about bailing out the less-than-ethical Freddie Mac-Fannie Mae banking entity at the expense of me and the rest of the American taxpayers. Not for a second do I believe that he is a newly-minted reformer but just the opposite as a Washington political insider.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
samantha,
are you kidding me?
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Nekol | September 7, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
TLZ
There is one Catholicism, with different orders. Their are different types of Christianity eg. protestants, Eastern Orthodox. But Catholicism is the patriarch and the Jesuits are the knowledge bearers of the Catholic faith. It starting to sound like I know more about this Christianity stuff then you and I’m a Lutheran.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Shelly,
Of course not everyone will be a billionaire! I never even implied that.
Yes, we need people to work low paying jobs too. But, they are low paying for a reason. They require less education and, therefore, less dedication to obtain.
Recently, Stanford did a study on the disparity between men and women’s pay. The results indicated that women are paid less, in part, because they, as a group, do not negiotate as effectivly as men. This can be attributed to many factors. I beleive that it is a social problem as girls are not taught to stand up for themselves at a young age. Believe me, if I ever have a girl to raise, she will be making more than an equivelent man because she will have the skills necessary to be effective in negiotating her pay.
Alas, I fear all is lost in trying to explain my views to anyone. Logic seems to become so convluted in opinion that most cannot see the basic truth in Libertarian ideals. In closing I encourage you and all to read “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand. It has changed many lives, mine included.
Posted by: Shelly | September 7, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
RNC, Schmidt(Rove), GOP,
Your true colors were shown to the world when you all steped up to the podium for your turn at bat for Obama bashing.
And you are continuing to do it here:(
Eight is enough!
Posted by: letsjustvote | September 7, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
I’m sick and tired of Obama. Obama and his whole campaign is so negative, I am just sick of them.
Posted by: kat in you hat PUMA | September 7, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
MCCAIN AND PALIN WILL WIN THIS ELECTION
Posted by: rabbit08 | September 7, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
Jo,
I second that!
Posted by: shutup | September 7, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
Republicans = Brick Wall
They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Don’t shout at brick walls and think they will fall.
Obama08
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Funny McCain spent the last week playing the Gender and Victim card, but they don’t want Obama to play it ha. Double standard.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
I have to say I have been impressed with Barack Obama since 2004 when I saw him speak. I told my husband back then, this is a guy we should hope one day would be our president!. My husband, a republican, watched and read a learned, and now is an avid Obama supporter, I have voted twice in my life for McCain, for Senator, that was a different McCain, I hope that Washington wont do the same to Barack as it did McCain.
Obama/ Biden ‘ 08
Posted by: Nekol | September 7, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
What’s Obama feeling so guilty about?
Posted by: Joan | September 7, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Who would you want to run your country, two individuals who act like they are a comedy act of someone who barely made it through college or two individuals who both teach constitutional law and graduated at the top of their class? When was the last time they actually talked about real issues instead of having the nitwit Palin made snide remarks about Obama. ONE THING IS CERTAIN, the problems we have tomorrow will not be the same as today and we need people who have the intelligence to learn new things. We don’t need a dog and pony show of McCain and Palin. There style of campaigning is an embarrassment to anyone’s intelligence. If Palin doesn’t have anything to hide, why won’t they let her be interviewed?
Posted by: The Unshrub | September 7, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
There is one issue that O is not addressing, and that is the issue about his birth certificate. How hard is it to prove your birth records? Why has it taken so long, and why have they not put a stop to it when it first surfaced? As a protential president of the US–wouldn’t this be a top ISSUE for him to talk about and put behind him. I am sure that the O has someone working on it. I won’t believe a thing he says until this ISSUE IS ANSWERED BY THE “O”.
Posted by: bjack | September 7, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
Obama sucks. He just hates women and can’t stand to see a woman get ahead. He’s just trying to keep women down. When Palin is President, she will help women by…….??? Hmmmm I’m can’t think of one thing she will do for women, but I’m sure she will do something. Women will suffer under Obama. Suffer miserably. He will outlaw everything, probably ban abortion or something. Probably make us not use any form of birth control, so we have 5 or 6 kids and so our kids have kids when they are kids. Go Palin, you are the savior of women. Women rule!! We are prettier, smarter, and tougher. We will fight these wars!!! Are gender founded this country. Not men. The history books were all written by men. I’ll bet you didn’t know that 90% of the soldiers that fought for our independence were women. Go Palin in 08!
Posted by: rabid PUMA | September 7, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
bjack
There is a copy of that birth certificate on Obama’s site.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
How can Obama promise change?
Has he tried to reform Chicago Politics away from the powerful DALEY POLITICAL MACHINE to more honest government?
Obama’s first political fundraiser was at the house of a founder of the Weather Underground — a group that credit for a number of bombings against police, government buildings and the military.
Then there is ACORN — a group that has made news for corruption for being involved in schemes for illegal voter registrations.
It is clear that Obama freely associates with those who break the law, and yet he is supposed to be the MESSIAH for America?
If he had worked to reform the DALEY MACHINE, then yes, I might believe him to be a person of positive change.
If he had opposed and denounced the work of Bill Ayers in the Weather Underground, then I might believe him to be a person of positive change.
Finally, as a COMMUNITY ACTIVIST, how has he tried to get ACORN to become a more HONEST organization…
It appears there is a trail of dishonesty and fraud around Obama.
But this is not change — This is old Chicago and Washington Politics.
Posted by: mndasher | September 7, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
Rabid PUMA
And I bet some of those women who organize the fight were … Community Organizers.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:21 am 1:21 am
The funny thing is when someone label you as “racist” then all arguments are stopped. That is what Obama tries to do so that no one can attack him. What the poor guy! Did any one of his opponents say he is Muslim? I didn’t hear. He labels it so no one can attack his personality.
Posted by: Peter Truong | September 7, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
mndasher
Sorry, but we the people elected Daley. When say the Chicago machine – they mean that people have been there so long that they don’t what were doing was illegal. By the way it was the Republican Governor Ryan who was convicted of corruption charges and sentence to prison.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
MM:”Sorry, but we the people elected Daley.”
I guess that means you are extremely happy with the 126 murders so far this summer in you wonderful Chicago.
Posted by: mndasher | September 7, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Don’t insult Cindy McCain, she just has the misfortune of being married to an idiot.
McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
“Did any one of his opponents say he is Muslim? I didn’t hear”
FoxNews first reported the lie in Feb of 2007.
CINCINNATI, Ohio—A conservative radio talk show host who helped introduce Senator John McCain before a rally here Tuesday used Senator Barack Obama’s middle name, Hussein, three times, while disparaging him, prompting Mr. McCain to apologize and repudiate the comments afterward.
Bill Cunningham, who hosts “The Big Show” with Bill Cunningham, a local program here that is also syndicated nationally, was part of a line of people lauding Mr. McCain and revving up the crowd before his appearance here before several hundred people at a theater here.
He lambasted the national media, drawing cheers from the audience, for being soft in their coverage of Mr. Obama compared to the Republican candidates, declaring they should “peel the bark off Barack Hussein Obama.”
Afterward, however, Mr. McCain held a scheduled news conference and immediately addressed the comments, evidently informed by his aides about what had happened.
The right wing passes it around constantly thru comments and blogs.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 7, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Obama talked down to and disrespected Hillary, enough said about his personality. His expierence–his comments about 57 states. He’s a poor choice. IMO.
Posted by: Christie | September 7, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Samantha
I wasn’t voting age when Blagovich ran. (I always mispell his name). But the alternative guess what worked for Governor Ryan.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
McCain/Palin = More wars and a worse economy. Heaven help us all and save us from the Repuglicans. Its not a typo!
Posted by: Stanley | September 7, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Christie
Hillary talked down to Obama too. “Shame on you Barack Obama.” There were insult on both sides. It’s over and let the healing begin. You would want the same if it were reverse.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Palin is a liar and one in good company… that jet she supposedly sold on ebay was relisted a few times and never sold on ebay… but sold outside of ebay… I wonder if we need an investigation on that? Palin going after her ex brother in law is proof that these two (MCCAIN & PALIN) are a match made somewhere… not heaven! If McCain’s daddy wasn’t who he was… those men on the USS Forrestal (CVA 59) would have had their way with that loser if the Navy had not wisked him away!
Posted by: us08 | September 7, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
I love factcheck It keeps me honest.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am
It’s the responsibility of the press, of ABC and the networks to bring sanity to this election. It is obvious that the strategy of the of republicans is to make it an election that is more a street fight than a reasonable debate about what is best for our country. They have all the tactics down and know how to manipulate the media to their advantage and, as evidenced by the state our country is in after eight years of a republican administration, not to the country’s advantage.
It’s responsibility of the press and news media to help people realize that the job of President is not something anyone can do. That their qualications for the job that involve intelligence, education, the ability to make wise, complex choices that are never black or white. The world is interconnected, and if our leaders can not empathize with those who are different, change can only happen in bad way.
Posted by: Dennis Myers | September 7, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
The lead that Obama is commanding has shrinked further …
The latest Gallup puts Obama at 47% (down 1%) and McCain at 45%. This is NOT taking into consideration the full comvention bounce for McCain/Palin.
The race is now officially TOO CLOSE TO CALL.
Posted by: Honey, I shrunk the lead | September 7, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Palin is all that intellegent either. She changed colleges I think Like 6 times they said. She’s not very educated either. She has a Journalism degree. She’s good and reading, writing, and speaking. That’s what they teach you in Journalism. That’s why she’s able to get by with her speeches, looks, and personality. Other than that not much there. It’s scary when she thinks for herself. She user her power as mayor to fire the police chief because he didn’t fire her brother in law. She fires librarians because they refuse to ban books she doesn’t like. Scary stuff.
Posted by: playin VP | September 7, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
McCain is hilarious, last week they say that Obama and the media are being sexist and now they tryu and say Obama is playing the victim card, lol, pot meet kettle
Posted by: axt113 | September 7, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
I would agree that B.Obama uses any WORD that installs his days rant about being a political change enthusiast..because from listening to him-debate-there seems a problem/either his ideas for change are not being honored/or the people he has brought change to–don’t really excist–or/one of his political secrets ARE the CHANGE–he has opened for some constiuency..//I’m in a confused MODE–on the subject of his work..ON ONE HAND…Obama is all about CHANGE–YET–he continues to say that NO CHANGE–does excist??..??..so which Obama is really here on the planet..??..I did a COPY-PASTE of Senator McCain’s speech and read that this afternoon..WHERE/there is a sentence that claims Obama-will use UNIONS to create change in the SCHOOL-system//that McCain offers a better school system by allowing Parents and Educators to develop PLANS..I personally do believe today’s workforce–Labor-or-Professional/will NOT look for a saavy development to build–instead looking to BLUR developmental LINES for personal profit(usually)tactics that waste TIME-too develop over-time..Senator McCain seems to suggest a very huge under-taking..all the while Obama just offers more of the same(usually)lacking ETHICS/and again he’s all about NOTHING–except..bull-oney.
Posted by: Mark S. M. | September 7, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Honey, I shrunk the lead
The race is determine state by state. If the trends keeps up McCain will still lose.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
So after 2 conventions, the race has returned to where it was nationally with Obama with a slight lead.
However Obama has been moving upo in state polls.
Both scenarios are bad for McCain.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 7, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
Russia has nuclear bombs, so does pakistan but Iran
Then why not attaack Russia and Paksitan , instead of Iraq etc…it seems that We’re only targetting countries who cannot challenge us but never the ones who really manipulate!!!
Now i see that Rice is talking to Lybia which i thought was a terrorist country…so was Obama right???!!!????
same thing about Iran
The surge is working: have we found any WMD???????and why did we invade Iraq for EXACTLY!!!I know that God sent us there
according to PALIN but why did we go there SERIOUSLY?????
Posted by: Avembe | September 7, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
I guess Democrat Obama supported Lieberman as a Independent
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
Time for a Midol…. for Obama.
He’s been complaining ever since the RNC Convention. The DNC speakers trash McCain, but when the RNC does it – cry Foul!
Obama attacks McCain by name over a dozen times during his acceptance speech, then when McCain mentions him 5 times – he says it’s unfair.
If people call him inexperienced, it’s racism. If they say he is all rhetoric with no substance, then it must be a smear.
Time to take a calgon bath Sen. Obama – either that or start acting like a presidential nominee and not a wounded schoolgirl whose being teased.
During the primaries, a union boss said that Hillary had more “testicular fortitude” than her rival… he may have been right. This is politics – and the contest is for the greatest seat in the country… not a spot on “Highschool Musical”.
Posted by: diamond lou | September 7, 2008, 1:49 am 1:49 am
PLease don’t trust the polls do NOT TRUST the Polls!!!!!!!!They can’t mean anuthing they just CAN’T
Posted by: Avembe | September 7, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Concerned in OH,
Dude! I’m from Ohio. Nice to meet a fellow Ohian.
Everything I said is true.
Posted by: playin VP | September 7, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Anyone watch the CNN program MCCAIN REVEALED? He is a hot head and he is 72 years old!!!!! One would have to be mentally challenged to vote for this guy and his side kick… uh… Gidget
Posted by: us08 | September 7, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Samantha
I grew up in chicago.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
“I guess Democrat Obama supported Lieberman as a Independent”
Obama spoke at the Jefferson Jackson dinner for CT in April of 2006. He praised Lieberman. That is the extent of his support for Lieberman.
The day after Lamont won the primary, Obama sent out an email to his CT supporters and had his HopePac send Lamont $5K.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 7, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
avembe, Libya WAS a terrorist country who was trying to get the atom bomb, but when the US invaded Iraq and took out Sadam, Ghadfi, the leader of Libya decided to give up trying for the atom bomb and his support for terrorism. I guess he was afraid that he would be next to be invaded by the US.
Posted by: Sandy | September 7, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
Concerned in OH,
Look up
Bloomberg – Palin Prayed for Classmate, Was `Average’ Student at 5 Schools
Wikipedia – Sarah Palin
It will confirm what I had told you earlier.
Posted by: playin VP | September 7, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Ryan C
Lieberman lost fare and square.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
COMPLAINING = WHINING
Posted by: us08suicide | September 7, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
MM,
I agree Joe lost his primary fair and square. Unfortunately he was able to stay in office.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 7, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Why would I vote for someone who does not talk about the economy and what his/plans are the invest in the economy and strengthen the economy.
Why would I vote for someone who talks about Iraq 90% of the time and Vietnam 10% of the time. I live in America not Iraq! I want to know what you plan to do about healthcare,the price of gas, Education,creating jobs etc.
Why would I vote for a man who supports George Bush and his do nothing domestic policy that has our economy in the dumps
George Bush, Cheney and the other rich politicians are not affected by the economy but the average joe/jane/Shaniqua/santana/Fung/jowarsky/silvestein is. These people don’t care. I am not a democrat but I sense that Obama wants to make a difference..I can sense it in his voice.. and that is what matters to me and it seems millions of people around this beloved country of ours. Heaven help us all and lets kick these Republicans out. They are responsible for the slumping economy that has affected our country yet some of these people had the nerve at their so called convention to raise placards that read “Country First”. Give me a break and go away! until after November 4, then you can come back and experience a new day in our country’s history. Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans!
Posted by: Stanley | September 7, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
“Libya WAS a terrorist country who was trying to get the atom bomb, but when the US invaded Iraq and took out Sadam, Ghadfi, the leader of Libya decided to give up trying for the atom bomb and his support for terrorism. I guess he was afraid that he would be next to be invaded by the US”
And North Korea decided to go full bore and got their nukes. And Iran saw the US hit Iraq but not NK and decided that they should pursue nukes too.
Libya hasn’t been an issue since we killed Quaddafyi’s 2 year old daughter during the Reagan years.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 7, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Alex, the srxism charge came from the fact the dems smeared Palin on Daily Kos with the lies that her baby was actually her daughter’s Bristol’s baby which is why she told the media about Bristol’s pregnancy. I am sure she wasn’t planning on telling people about that just yet. And then many in the so-called liberal media were again smearing Palin by saying she should be staying home and taking care of her 5 kids instead of running for VP. That’s sexism. See, Dems say they are for women’s rights but actually they must only be for LIBERAL women’s rights.
Posted by: Sandy | September 7, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Obama’s camp is in a STATE of DENIAL …I should say STATES because there are like about 7 more than the 50.
His numbers ARE down in some of the state polls… there are A LOT more SWING states in play …some of them are BLUE states.
Posted by: Honey, I shrunk the lead | September 7, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
…and I am talking about any of the 7 states he has in mind.
Posted by: Honey, I shrunk the lead | September 7, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Yukon Barbie is TOAST after her first press interview and the McLame campaign knows it!!!
It is the PLAIN TRUTH, PALIN IS PLAIN!! OFF SCRIPT THERE IS NOTHING THERE!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 7, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
McCain – Bottom of his Class
Palin – Average student – 5 different schools – Journalism degree
Bush – well nevermind Bush (everyone know about him)
Obama – A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review
Biden – In 1961, Biden graduated from Archmere Academy in Claymont, Delaware.[6] He attended the University of Delaware in Newark,[7] where he graduated with a double major in history and political science in 1965.[3] He went on to receive his J.D. from Syracuse University College of Law in 1968, and was admitted to the Delaware Bar in 1969.[7]
Is there really any contest here? No. This is election is such an easy decision. We are in big trouble, and we want to elect more stupid people like Bush. We need big solutions, smart solutions. Not more of the same old dumb Republican agenda.
Posted by: who's smarter? | September 7, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
WOW!,..lol…you liberals sure are scared! And might I say uninformed!!
Palin did not say she SOLD the jet on E-bay she said she “put” it on e-bay.
Obama camp just lied today about the flags.Duh people have pictures.Obama has lied well over 60 times now ALL DOCUMENTED! And still we don’t know if obama is even American at 20 years of age his pass port said Indonesian!
The boy is a joke and his father was Black or Arab? Is he Christian or Muslim? School papers say Islam,..lolf
face it…the dem’s did not vet obama,..and now they pay. Lie all you want about Palin,..she was vetted for 6 weeks,..they know it all so bring it!
Posted by: Able | September 7, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
If John McCain and Sarah Palin are “truly going to change” Washington… They must “walk the talk”. Something Barack Obama has a bit of trouble doing. I would rather have the change McCain is capable of than the “loose change” Obama is preaching. Barack talks about changing the world…”HOW IS HE GOING TO DO THAT EXACTLY. P-L-E-A-S-E!” Yes Barack, we Americans are smarter than that, Come on!
John McCain had mentioned that he would “remove some of the $700 BILLION A YEAR in foreign aid from those that don’t like America very much… And put that money to work here in the United States”. THAT’S THE KIND OF CHANGE I’M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey John, I propose that you return 33% YEAR ONE, 45% YEAR TWO, 55% YEAR THREE, AND 60% YEAR FOUR…. And then after your re-election, throw in the whole 100%!
By that time, the rest of the world can figure out “why this system works and theirs doesn’t”.
Also, tell thsoe “SLAVE LABOR MULTI-NATIONALIST CORPORATIONS NOT TO GO AWAY MAD… JUST GO AWAY! Tell them to move their families to Bejing… I’m sure they will enjoy the “mulitude of culture”. CYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AGREE, LET’S CHANGE THE WORLD! (maybe all we have to do is “exercise self-determination” on behalf of those that have been down-trodden by years of psychological conditioning that tells people that “they can’t” or “you’re not good enough” or “you’re a girl” or “you’re skin is the wrong color”…. ENOUGH OF THIS PSYCHO-BULL****!
Lets send those in Government and the “MULTINATIONAL Corporations” that serve us … “WHO’S THE BOSS, FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL”.
We can start by having all government institutions and agencies “open their books (ALL BOOKS)” to be viewed by the American People…
I highly recommend every American read the “Declaration of Independence. The Constitution of the United States (and the Amendments), Bill of Rights, The Federalist Papers… WITH AN OPEN MIND AND A SERVANTS HEART.
Does anyone remember Thomas Jefferson…? (please read below)
“Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence”. – Thomas Jefferson
“Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God” – Thomas Jefferson
“LET’S TALK ABOUT CHANGE…”
Posted by: Randy | September 7, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Vote McCain feel the pain and don’t complain!
Posted by: Stanley | September 7, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Barack Obama was raised in the largest muslim country in the world, Indonesia. He lived there as a child from age 5 to 10. He went to their public schools where it is in the curriculum that you have to study the Koran two hours a day. Obama was taught by mullahs during his most influential years.
While Obama’s father was muslim, it was his step-father that was the major muslim influence on young Hussein. Eye-witnesses to this day talk about how they remember young Obama follow his step-father to mosque on evening prayer.
Obama mom was an atheist. So it’s very likely Obama was muslim at one time. After he moved to Chicago and joined the Mayor Daley political machine he was forced to get baptized and join a church and he picked one that hated white people and United States.
Again these are the facts. The spin may vary but the fact is he lived in Indonesia from age 5-10 with and atheist mother and a very devout muslim step-father. Oh Barack’s half-sister, the biological daughter of his muslim step-dad and mother, was rasied and is muslim.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
I am a Mccain supporter but what I see is that mCcAIN AND pALIN are bent to reduce Americans to beggars. McCain does not have the country first; he has his political ambitions first; otherwise he would not HAVE selected Palin A corrupt lady as VP!
I ma voting for OBAMA 08!
Posted by: Jack-mccain's online mercenaries | September 7, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Republicans
Attack + Obama = Win election
Democrats
Issues + People = Solve the economy
Obama/Biden stick to the issues.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Frankly I like Huckabee better then McCain. At least Huckabee would rather lose an election and not attack,rather then win an election via false attack.
Obama08
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Didn’t know we had so many rich Democrats
I mean if your voting for obama,you must
be rich.Maybe you don’t understand what
income redistribution means? Your income goes to someone else and obama has said it will go to the United Nations.Just look at his buddie oprah her money goes to Africa. Obama has a bill for $385BILLION American tax dollars to go everywhere else BUT America.TAX MONEY PEOPLE!! Your very uninformed if you think McCain will go anywhere near the hike in taxes obama will. I think after a while people will not only NOT vote for obama, but will be embarrassed to admit that at one time they did.
Posted by: Carl | September 7, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
Palin called Hillary a whiner back when they were doing the same thing to Hillary. I guess that makes Palin a whiner too?
Why is there a double standard now that it is a Republican? It’s a shame in this day and age that a woman has to be put under attacks like that. Just goes to show that Hillary was right when so many said she wasn’t.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 2:24 am 2:24 am
James D
Obama spent 37 years in America and only 5 in Indonesia and he doesn’t consider himself American. BS
Fight the Smears
Obama08
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Nanas
McCain has highest absentee voting record see for yourself. He won’t show up for the job.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
Posted by: Carl | Sep 7, 2008 2:24:24 AM
Obama is the lesser of two evils.McCain will only keep us on the track that GWB has put us on and this country cannot afford 4 more years of that.
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Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
I am a Mccain supporter but what I see is that THERE ARE MANY MCCAIN CAMP MERCENARIES DEPLOYED IN THESE WEBSITES TO MAJOR ON SILLY THINGS INSTEAD OF ON ISSUES! AND THAT’S A SHAME FOR SUCH PEOPLE WHO CALLED THEMSELVES PATRIOTIC AMERICANS!
MCCAIN AND PALIN ARE NOT ON ISSUES BECAUSE THEY HAVE NONE TO TALK ABOUT BUT CREATING DISTRACTIONS! NOT AGAIN. THIS TIME IT WILL NOT WORK. IT WORKED UNTIL WE VOTED IN THE WRONG PRESIDENT BUSH; AND SEE WHERE THAT HAD BROUGHT US. ONCE BITTEN, TWICE SHY!
I AM VOTING A DEMOCRAT AND HE IS OBAMA 08. 500 MORE OF MY CLUB MEMBERS HAVE VOWED WITH ME TO VOTE FOR OBAMA 08!
Posted by: JOHN-mccain's online m | September 7, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Lets trust hot-temper McCain with nukes after all he pick Palin without doing a thorough background check. He may push the red button without all the facts.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 2:27 am 2:27 am
Hey The Right Wing Lies,..um give us P.U.M.A folks some credit will ya!
! See how fast you forget how obama dissed and cheated Hillary out of wht truly belongs to her?! His muslim backing friends intimidated deleg
ates and lied about Clinton just like you are lieing about Palin. BTW,..the smears on Palin goes back to a web-site by your man obama the liar.Fightthesmears,..darn the pesky ip tracker! Obama LIES!
Posted by: Carl | September 7, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
I live in DELAWARE. Biden is corrupt.
Posted by: joel santos | September 7, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
Who’s Smarter?
McCain – Bottom of his Class
Palin – Average student – 5 different schools – Journalism degree
Bush – well nevermind Bush, everyone know about him
Obama – A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review
Biden – In 1961, Biden graduated from Archmere Academy in Claymont, Delaware.[6] He attended the University of Delaware in Newark,[7] where he graduated with a double major in history and political science in 1965.[3] He went on to receive his J.D. from Syracuse University College of Law in 1968, and was admitted to the Delaware Bar in 1969.[7]
Is there really any contest here? This is election is such an easy decision. We are in big trouble, and we want to elect more stupid people like Bush. We need big solutions, smart solutions. Not more of the same old dumb Republican agenda.
Posted by: who's smarter? | September 7, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
Biden one of the poorest senator in Congress. If he is corrupt he is really bad at it. Unlike Stevens.
Posted by: MM | September 7, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Sorry but those years are age 5-10 those are years that define you. He considered himself an Indonesian that is why he still had a passport of Indonesia at age 20.
That is why as an adult Barack was attacted to people that hate America, like his mentor Rev Wright. And also his wife and William Ayers.
We can’t trust Barack with our nukes. He’d at least give Indonesia an H bomb. Maybe he’d throw Kenya a suitcase bomb.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
I am a Mccain supporter but what I see is that THERE ARE MANY MCCAIN CAMP MERCENARIES DEPLOYED IN THESE WEBSITES TO MAJOR ON SILLY THINGS INSTEAD OF ON ISSUES! AND THAT’S A SHAME FOR SUCH PEOPLE WHO CALLED THEMSELVES PATRIOTIC AMERICANS!
MCCAIN AND PALIN ARE NOT ON ISSUES BECAUSE THEY HAVE NONE TO TALK ABOUT BUT CREATING DISTRACTIONS! NOT AGAIN. THIS TIME IT WILL NOT WORK. IT WORKED UNTIL WE VOTED IN THE WRONG PRESIDENT BUSH; AND SEE WHERE THAT HAD BROUGHT US. ONCE BITTEN, TWICE SHY!
I AM VOTING A DEMOCRAT AND HE IS OBAMA 08. 500 MORE OF MY CLUB MEMBERS HAVE VOWED WITH ME TO VOTE FOR OBAMA 08!
Posted by: JOHN-mccain's online mercenaries | September 7, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN-PALIN. The other two candidates are a joke !!!! No brainer. Both Obama & Biden are only legislative experience. McCain-Palin is an excellent combination because of Legislative & Executive skills combined.
Posted by: Noy Ramos | September 7, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
”
Lets trust hot-temper McCain with nukes after all he pick Palin without doing a thorough background check. He may push the red button without all the facts.
Posted by: MM | Sep 7, 2008 2:27
:58 AM
Yeah,..lets give a man we know nothing about,..who has never done anything for America,.attended a racist church,Helped and went to the million man hate march,has worked with a member of the black panthers,worked with Aeyers
and the list goes on,..If I can’t have Hillary,..I’ll take a war Hero compared to your man the ZERO! Wait and see,..Hillary is not finished!!
Posted by: Carl | September 7, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
I live in DELAWARE also and Biden is not corrupt.
Posted by: JOHN-mccain's online mercenaries | September 7, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Dear jake — you are always using this blog to attack and criticize Palin and Obama, but how come you never criticize Obama? here is a perfect example where Obama is again LYING and using the race card, why don’t you call him out on it, and call him a liar? Why the constant bias?
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 7, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
THE CAMPAIGN TO NOWHERE
DOLE SAID THAT HE WANTED TO BUILD A BRIDGE TO THE PAST.
CLINTON WON THAT ELECTION BY SAYING THAT *HE* WANTED TO BUILD A BRIDGE TO THE FUTURE.
BUSH HAS SPENT 8 YEARS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON FOREIGN WARS WHILE OUR BRIDGES ARE FALLING DOWN
AT HOME.
PALIN FUNDED THE “BRIDGE TO NOWHERE” USING HUGE AMOUNTS OF PORK.
McCAIN IS PROMISING McSAME AS BUSH AND CHENEY.
WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US?
WITH A BUSH/CHENEY/MCCAIN/PALIN
“CAMPAIGN TO NOWHERE”
Posted by: PhairePleigh | September 7, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
LOL – McCain tries to say that the repub shills aren’t suggesting he’s a muslim and yet most of the pro-McCain, or more accurately anti-Obama, posts here do exactly that. Who does the GOP think they’re fooling this time? Oh yeah, the wackos on the self-righteous religious right.
Posted by: Lying liars | September 7, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
Again even you Obama supporters don’t know the basics about him. I’ll give you the facts without the spin.
Obama’s mama got pregnant at age 17 in her first semester in college.
She was an atheist and very liberal.
Obama’s father was a 25 year old African.
He dumped them to go to Massachusetts about a year or so later.
His mom hooked up with another muslim and they moved to Indonesia and Barack lived there from age 5 to age 10.
Barack had an Indonesian passport at age 20.
Barack was baptized in his twenties.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 2:42 am 2:42 am
James D,
McCain was born outside the US in Panama Canal. In high school, he excelled at wrestling. Wrestling :)
He also became a lightweight boxer :)
Educated at Naval Academey, ranked bottom of the class.
This guys a genius! I’m sure he’ll know what to do about the economy :)
Posted by: McCainonomics | September 7, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
Anybody who supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries who is now voting McCain/Palin, all you are doing is showing you didn’t care what Hillary stood for in the first place.
Sorry, but I am taking my chances with Obama/Biden.
“No way, No how, No McCain, No Palin.”
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
Democrat Obama is in the wrong election year. He is running agains BUSH.
Posted by: Joel Nario | September 7, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Who’s Smarter?
McCain – Bottom of his Class
Palin – Average student – 5 different schools – Journalism degree
Bush – well nevermind Bush, everyone know about him
Obama – A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review
Biden – In 1961, Biden graduated from Archmere Academy in Claymont, Delaware.[6] He attended the University of Delaware in Newark,[7] where he graduated with a double major in history and political science in 1965.[3] He went on to receive his J.D. from Syracuse University College of Law in 1968, and was admitted to the Delaware Bar in 1969.[7]
Is there really any contest here? This is election is such an easy decision. We are in big trouble, and we want to elect more stupid people like Bush. We need big solutions, smart solutions. Not more of the same old dumb Republican agenda.
Posted by: who’s smarter? | Sep 7, 2008 2:30:24 AM
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I have not seen a more concise and timely post on these blogs for a long time, including mine!
One question, can I use it??
Obama/Biden ’08!!!
Good JOB!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 7, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Nobody in these 57 United States should take Obama the Marxist seriously.
Posted by: Sluggo | September 7, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
For the die-hards Obama fans …
A new national poll puts Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain in a dead heat – 42% to 42%.
The CBS poll was conducted from Monday to Wednesday, BEFORE the GOP convention ended with McCain’s speech Thursday night.
OUCH !!!
Posted by: Honey, I shrunk the lead | September 7, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
Mccain was born in a miltary base that is considered US territory. And that goes for any military brat born to parent(s) that are serving their country.
That’s different than Obama, who first only had one American citizen as a parent. Obama’s time in Indonesia was to live there as an Indonesia. That was where Obama’s step-father was from. Obama went to Indonesian public schools and had to study the Koran for at least two hours a day. Mullahs taught him the Koran.
That’s different for miltary families abroad where you are taught by American.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
Davis,
Thanks. Yeah use it up. Email Obama’s campaign people. Do whatever you need to do. That’s really all I need to know, to know who to vote for. I’m sure alot of other people would agree with me.
Posted by: who's smarter? | September 7, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
The fact is GW Bush got better grades than Gore and Kerry. Kerry got 5 D grades that he only told the public about until after the election. Gore got lower undergraduate grades than GW Bush and flunked out twice trying to get a graduate degree.
GW Bush got his MBA from Harvard.
I’m saying Bush is still a moron. But just because Barack graduated from Harvard doesn’t mean he isn’t an empty suit. He’s black and their is a quota factor. You never know if he was only there because he was fulfilling a quota.
I’m confident in McCain and Palin based on what they’ve accomplished.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 2:55 am 2:55 am
James D,
And George Bush, just got elected President because of his Father.
And McCain just made it through the naval acadamy and got away with murder because of his father (four star admiral in the United States Navy)
Posted by: who's smarter? | September 7, 2008, 2:59 am 2:59 am
And Barack was only admitted to Columbia because he was black. If he was white with the same grades who knows if he would have accomplished the same thing.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
It’s just so obivous that Barack Hussein Obama was a muslim as a child. If nothing is wrong with it then why not just admit it? I’m sure his supporters would not have a problem with it. Do you honestly believe that he never studied the Koran in Indonesia or attended mosque with his step-father? There are eye-witnesses that remember young Hussein following his step-dad to evening prayer.
The fact is I want a President that is loyal to the United States. With McCain he not only likes America….he looooooves it!
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
McCain knows alot about crashing stuff.
Crashed 5 planes.
Crashed the Housing market in the 80′s
2008?
Posted by: McCainonomics | September 7, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
Then it’s fair game to constantly mention that he was a muslim as a child and he may still be one and may have bad intentions for the United States.
If he’d just tell the truth and say ‘I was muslim but I’m christian now’ then it would be a non-issue.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
“Barack Hussein Obama lived in Indonesia from age 5-10 as an Indonesian”
No, he lived there as a American.
I’ll give the right wing “credit” though. They realized early on overt racism would hurt them so they have been hammering the “he’s not one of us” meme day and night for a couple years now.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 7, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
I am completely disgusted with the comments. Do you not care about your country? First off, Obama is not an empty suit, he was raised by a single mother, he went to columbia, and harvard law school. How dare you claim that just because he is black, he is an empty suit. I am a white male, and I am ashamed for all of you. Have you no decency left? Are you really going to berate someone who worked hard, pursued the AMERICAN dream, and attained his goals. All of his views despite what most of you state, are pragmatic and often more moderate than anything. Universal health care is his most “liberal” view. For those who don’t believe in pro-choice, environmental independence from renewable energy, merit based pay for teachers, etc. Fine you don’t agree with him. But since when does America stand for hostile behavior to other human beings. Since when does America stand for a stubborn politic, who doesn’t listen to other nations? Since when does America put corporate interests before the benefit of the nation as a whole? Clinton supporters, Obama didn’t pick Hillary because she simply wasn’t the best choice. Biden was. He provides extensive experience in a variety of matters. Obama’s intellect and judgment would have prevented us from entering the Iraq war, and I would rather have a President who can stand up to the war cries of Congress and be an outsider, who is later proved to be right, than someone with 30 years of Senate experience who lacked the judgment and made a huge political mistake. Enough is enough. If you want your views to be taken seriously, please provide a rational argument, not driven by political bias or blatant disrespect for another individual or their views, but actually provide REAL evidence for what you state. A lot of these comments find their argument lacking any evidence. These comments just complain or insult. Ask yourself, what does this accomplish? If all you do is call the other person an iddiot for 500 comments, what was accomplished? If you actually do BELIEVE in your own opinions, ARGUE them, but do not belittle anyone. Honestly, are you really proud of yourself by doing this?
Posted by: Devon | September 7, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am
Barack had an Indonesian passport at age 20. That goes to show that he still considered himself an Indonesia first.
I consider the place where I lived from age 5-10 to be my childhood hometown. A lot of people do those are very key years.
While children were pledging allegiance to the flag of the United States. Barack was being taught the Koran by mullahs. No wonder it isn’t natural for Barack to put his hand over his heart when the anthem plays.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
I am a lot more concerned about the political corruption of Obama….and the lack of response of the press than I am about his religious background.
Please note that the Rezko=Obama=IL Gov investigation is on-going. Has Rezko been sentenced yet or is he finally cooperating? The “pay for play” scandal is being covered up by the mainstream press.
Palin fired an employee that was “at will” and is being investigated by her political enemies….Give me a break pundits and media types.
Sadly from reading some of this stuff some people really do believe the smears. And those are the same people that believe Obama is not part of a nasty political corrupt machine.
Posted by: Jackie | September 7, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
James D,
You want to know about Obamas Religion than just read about his Mother. He was closest to her.
She was agnostic basically. This means she believes there maybe a higher power, but just knows there’s no way to be sure. This shows intellegence. She considered herself a Christian from Kansas, and that is what Barack would consider hiself as well. I’m sure Barack is very well educated about the worlds Religions which would also be a very good thing for the leader of the free world to understand.
Posted by: obamas religion | September 7, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
Thank you DI and Devon,
There are intelligent people in this country.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
J,
Give me three legitimate reasons why you like McCain and Palin’s views, and three legitimate and substantiated reasons why you dislike Obama/Biden? I’m interested in your educated opinions.
Posted by: Devon | September 7, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
Seriously,
Democrats and Republicans, and Independents, can we stop the name-calling? It does NOTHING FOR ANYONE. McBush? Obama is an empty suit? McSame? The argument is baseless. I am a Democrat, but it’s sad to see both Democrat and Republican trying to get one-ups on one another without a SINGLE substantiated argument. If we all care about our country, let’s have a Discussion/Conversation. The best decision is often a compromise, and no extreme is ever right. Don’t you all see that as well? Let’s put away the bickering and actually post intelligent comments on this site. Please.
Posted by: Devon | September 7, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
J,
Just go have yourself some Keating 5 and wash it down with some “Thanks, but no thanks” earmarks.
Posted by: Denise | September 7, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
There is nothing radical about Obamas religious beliefs. Palin has much more radical religious beliefs. Not believing in evolution and believing in Creationism is one example.
McCain doesn’t know what to believe. He said in 2000 he believed in pro-choice. Now he says he’s pro-life. Abortion is a non issue. Some people think it should be illegal, some don’t. It’s never going to be stopped whether legal or not. In my opinion outlawing it would be unconstitutional because of our right of Freedom of Religion.
Posted by: obamas religion | September 7, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
Please show your substantiated news reports showing Obama was a muslim.
For the record, why are Muslims bad people? Do all Muslims hate the US? No. They are not. My evidence is the fact that there are Muslims in the US who are US citizens, who vote, and who are human beings. The real question is why you all believe Muslims hate the US? There are other free countries in the world, yet they weren’t attacked. I think Ron Paul is most likely correct in his view that American foreign policy is more to blame than our values. I think the evidence he presented was rational. It would be interesting to see if the US shifted its dependence from foreign oil to more independent renewable energy sources. I believe foreign oil has gotten the US in the most trouble in regards to the Middle East.
Obama didn’t become political until his thirties, so his choice of religion was not politically motivated, but often when you are older you make more independent views on your religion.
Posted by: Devon | September 7, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
James D,
Obama’s mother was raised by 2 white parents in Withita Kansas until she was was an adult as a Christian. Do you really think she converted to Muslim? Another interesting thing about Barack’s Mother she was described by classmates as the “original Feminist”. I think that might be of interest to Hillary’s supporters.
Posted by: obamas religion | September 7, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am
James D,
You need to calm down, take a breath, and stop letting Republican propaganda get the best of you. It’s absolute crap. I know you think you believe it. But I’ve lived long enough to know how much BS Republicans put out over the AM Radio and they feed you on Fox News. Everyone knows it, it’s time you woke up and smelled the coffee.
Posted by: obamas religion | September 7, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
Obama’s mama was out of control. There was a recent article on Obama’s life. And at first she was teaching communism to young children as a student teacher. No I don’t think she was a commie just someone who wanted attention. And she was also a very devout atheist at the time she entered university.
At age 13 Obama’s mother did leave young Hussein with her parents, but they had a very estranged relationship during Barack’s first 10 years. The damage was already done and Barack considered himself Indoneisan and would stare at his Indonesian passport wishing he had plane fare to return to his homeland.(It’s in the book)
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am
You can say that he’s not a muslim but you can’t say he never was a muslim.
The press needs to present the fact. He was baptized in his 20s. He doesn’t have a culture of Christianity. He definitely had an Islamic upbringing as a child.
His step-father was a muslim. He attended mosque regularly. He said his daily prayers. There are eye-witnesses that say Barack follow his step-father to evening prayer. He lived in the largest muslim country from age 5-10. He attended their public schools where students are required to study the Koran for two hours a day.
Also his father was a muslim and all his children are muslim. And when Barack’s real father saw him at age eleven(for one month) he made Barack turn the TV off when ‘The Grinch Stole Christmas’ was on. Why? Because it was against the teachings of Allah and he forced Barack to read the Koran.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 4:11 am 4:11 am
James D,
Where do you get all this from?
Posted by: obamas religion | September 7, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
I love it, you Republicans think you have got this “new weapon” against Barack Obama and Joe Biden…
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!
Wait until the debates “MY FRIENDS!”
We are going to see what the “cheerleader” PTA queen has got during that 90 minute debate, oh my gosh, McCain didn’t think that far out, Oops!!
Before that though, AMERICANS should demand McPalin to answer some questions from the Press!
WHO IN THE HECK DOES SHE THINK SHE IS?? CHELSIE CLINTON??
Oooow, Sexisim, Sexisim, maybe that will keep the EVIL PRESS wolves AWAY!!!!
Help me Mr. Wizard!!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 7, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am
There are a 10 page article a few weeks ago on the life of Obama. I believe it was from the Washington Post.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am
McCain is going to kick Obama’s ass in the debates. Look at all the other debates Obama was in. He’s an empty suit away from the teleprompter.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am
How is that the ‘real story’ that is just spin by the Obama handlers. That article is old there is a newer one with more accurate details.
The facts are still the same.
He lived in Indonesia from age 5-10.
When in Indonesia he attended public schools where you had to study the Koran for two hours a day. Yes, if you were Christian or Jew you had the option to study the bible. But you had to study something. Why would Barack who’s biolgical father and step-father are muslim and a mother who doesn’t give a crap not study the Koran.
Even in that article they mention that Barack followed his step-father to evening prayer.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am
Let’s just see what that empty suit Obama has said on O’Reily. Only part one of an four part interview has been aired.
Let’s see in part one he already admitted the surge was ‘wildly popular’.
I hope there is another ‘guns and religion’ quote in there.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 4:42 am 4:42 am
James D,
The stuff you are saying is just speculation and theories. You keep saying you have all this new information, well where is it? Give me some links. I’m game. I certainly don’t want someone in the White House I can’t trust again, like Bush. So give me some links to this new information and you better make sure they have references to where they get their information.
Posted by: obamas religion | September 7, 2008, 4:44 am 4:44 am
We are so TIRED of OBAMA PLAYING THE VICTIM ROLE.
This Nation needs to be run by a man of honor and courage…..NOT A WHINER and LIAR.
Posted by: mary | September 7, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
James D,
Hey I recognize that language. “Empty Suite”. Hey it’s Michael Savage from the Savage Nation. So you are either the man himself. Or you love to listen to AM Talk Radio. I knew it.
Posted by: obamas religion | September 7, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am
I haven’t listen to Savage in about two years. But it’s a common term for Obama or any moron who relies on just a teleprompter.
I miss Savage I think I start to download his show off the ‘net. It should be interesting during the election.
Posted by: James D | September 7, 2008, 4:55 am 4:55 am
We are so TIRED of OBAMA PLAYING THE VICTIM ROLE.
This Nation needs to be run by a man of honor and courage…..NOT A WHINER and LIAR.
Posted by: mary | Sep 7, 2008 4:46:36 AM
Guess that leaves McCain out as well.The only part you were right about was honor and courage.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am
As a former Hillary Supporter and Delegate, I would like to say that the last week or so has only served to remind me of all the Obama vicious attacks and lies.
Hillary asked us to support Obama and some of us are trying to do that, however, it appears that Obama HAS NOT CHANGED>
He continues to play the victim role and continues to work at creating a HUGE DIVIDE between Americans.
I can no longer stand by him and come November this DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO VOTE FOR PALIN.
Posted by: annie | September 7, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am
I agree with Annie….
WE ARE SO TIRED OF OBAMA PLAYING THE VICTIM ROLE!
E N O U G H!
It’s time to man up, and stop whining.
Posted by: Lupe | September 7, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
James D,
I challenge you to find, among the 130+ bills and 200+ amendments Obama has introduced in the Senate since January 2005, or the more than 600 bille he’s co-sponsored, any actions suggesting he has intended to benefit non-American muslims in any way which shows especial favoritism or goes against the interests of the American people.
Posted by: Donna H. | September 7, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am
Obama is out campaigning and giving unscripted interviews to hard-hitting journalists–even Fox TV.
He is not hiding behind a McCain and handlers, like a venemous serpent, striking out at the opponant.
Why is she hiding?
Because she is a victim she and McCain say. Right.
Palin has lied so many times in her nine days of fame that it is routine for every statement she makes to be fact checked and truth noted before printng.
Why isn’t she giving press conferences or being interviewed at the Sunday press meetings?
Because she is really Peter Sellers’ Chance from ‘Being There’ and that script only plays well with Republicans?
Or it is because she is lawyering up to derail the recall or impeachment process in Alaska?
Or is it because she is looking for answers to her mysterious property purchases sheilded by her alleged lover’s, Scott Richter, company (exposed in his divorce papers), his former wife’s handling of the oil company money bonanza to Alaska and the missing government database?
We could go on and on.
Is either Palin or McCain a victim? No, they are the ones making the attacks and smear ads then running for cover shouting ‘POW’ and ‘I am a Mommy’.
This is just a bog-standard Bush/Rove dirty tricks operation.
Attack. Lie. Run for cover. Attck. Lie. Run for coverage.
Did I forget Bomb, Drill baby Drill?
Posted by: susan | September 7, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am
I can no longer stand by him and come November this DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO VOTE FOR PALIN.
Posted by: annie | Sep 7, 2008 5:00:45 AM
Well then you never really supported Hillary and what she fought and stood for. If you did, there is not way you could vote for the Skipper and MaryAnn.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 5:18 am 5:18 am
I am an Independent female voter and all the SEXIST attacks against Gov. Palin by the Democrats have only served to convince me that Women have a LONG WAY TO GO before we are considered equals.
However, we are not going to get there unless we stand up to these type of Sexist Attacks.
My vote in November will be FOR Gov. Palin…..it’s my way of saying NO TO SEXISM.
I can not vote for Obama and his campaign who show such disregard for female politiicans.
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am
My vote in November will be FOR Gov. Palin…..it’s my way of saying NO TO SEXISM.
I can not vote for Obama and his campaign who show such disregard for female politiicans.
Posted by: michelle | Sep 7, 2008 5:19:17 AM
Who cares about the people of the USA? Instead you are going to vote for somebody that is not remotely for anything that would better things. You just want to get back at the Democrats. That won’t do much good if the country isn’t here in 4 years.
If you really care about this country and want to fight sexism, listen to Hillary and vote for Obama. Otherwise you never really cared about what she was fighting for in the first place.
It was her, NOT Palin that exposed this sexist garbage.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am
J
The sexist garbage as you call it was not exposed by HIllary or Palin. It was exposed by Obama and his supporters who continue to show horrid treatment of women.
By the way since when did helping women not become part of helping the USA.
I want a better world for my daughters and that is NOT going to happen if I help Obama and his “good old boy” network.
Obama showed us how he felt about women when he picked Biden over Hillary who had proven to be the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE.
The last week Obama and his supporters continued with the sexist attacks, except now they were aimed at Palin.
Which made it clear to women that it wasn’t a Obama Hillary issue….it was an Obama Woman issue.
His top supporters and pundits ….who he controls were all out last week spreading their sexist remarks…many of them using the same lines
So this women is not going to VOTE AGAINST SEXISTM……by VOTING NO OBAMA.
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am
So this women is not going to VOTE AGAINST SEXISTM……by VOTING NO OBAMA.
Posted by: michelle | Sep 7, 2008 5:41:20 AM
IF we elect McCain and Palin there won’t be anything left of the US so you won’t have to worry. Look at the bigger picture. Do you want the country to come up out of the trenches? IF so you won’t vote for McCain.
Yes, Hillary IS the one that brought this treatment to the forefront by talking about it.
Also, it was mainly the MEDIA that made the sexist attacks. Obama did on a few occasions say things that were not appropriate. All of you who are voting for McCain don’t realize he sucks on women’s issues. Cutting your nose off to spite your face is stupid.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am
Michelle,
“The last week Obama and his supporters continued with the sexist attacks, except now they were aimed at Palin.”
Wasn’t it Obama who said to “BACK OFF” regarding the children of Palin. What sexist remarks are you talking about that Obama has made?
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am
I am a die hard Clinton supporter who vowed never to vote for Obama. After Hillary’s speech at the convention I decided that I would give him a chance.
Like she said it wasn’t about her but about that woman with cancer, the Marine and the lady with the minimum wage job. If her and Bill can put the stuff that transpired in the primaries behind them, so can I .
I care about this country deeply and voting McCain is the same as having GWB in the White House. If you like the last 8 years, by all means vote for McCain. Personally I don’t like what GWB has done to this country.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am
Posted by: MICHELLE | Sep 7, 2008 5:55:03 AM
You already posted that. McCain does not have a good stance on women’s issues.
Posted by: J | Sep 7, 2008 6:00:00 AM
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The way I see it McCain is GREAT for Women.
He had the courage to pick a WOMAN for VP, while Obama DENIED the best qualified Female candidate ever…the VP slot
ACTIONS ARE LOUDER THAN WORDS.
McCain…………. PICKS a FEMALE VP
Obama…………..DENIES VP slot to best Female Candidate ever!
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 6:09 am 6:09 am
Posted by: MICHELLE | Sep 7, 2008 5:55:03 AM
You already posted that. McCain does not have a good stance on women’s issues.
Posted by: J | Sep 7, 2008 6:00:00 AM
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The way I see it McCain is GREAT for Women.
He had the courage to pick a WOMAN for VP, while Obama DENIED the best qualified Female candidate ever…the VP slot
ACTIONS ARE LOUDER THAN WORDS.
McCain…………. PICKS a FEMALE VP
Obama…………..DENIES VP slot to best Female Candidate ever!
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am
The way I see it McCain is GREAT for Women.
He had the courage to pick a WOMAN for VP, while Obama DENIED the best qualified Female candidate ever…the VP slot
ACTIONS ARE LOUDER THAN WORDS.
McCain…………. PICKS a FEMALE VP
Obama…………..DENIES VP slot to best Female Candidate ever!
Posted by: michelle | Sep 7, 2008 6:10:17 AM
What about his stand on equal pay for equal work. What about his stand on abortion? He is no maverick when it comes to women’s issues.
The reason you are voting for him makes no sense whatsoever. Yes he should have picked Hillary but for you to vote for him on that one issue is really not using your head.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 6:14 am 6:14 am
As a former Hillary Supporter and Delegate, I would like to say that the last week or so has only served to remind me of all the Obama vicious attacks and lies.
Hillary asked us to support Obama and some of us are trying to do that, however, it appears that Obama HAS NOT CHANGED>
He continues to play the victim role and continues to work at creating a HUGE DIVIDE between Americans.
I can no longer stand by him and come November this DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO VOTE FOR PALIN.
Posted by: annie | Sep 7, 2008 5:00:45 AM
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You’re right all the attacks on females are getting old.
I know Gov. Palin is no Hillary but NEITHER is Sen. Obama.
If I have to chose between those two, I am also going to vote for Gov. Palin.
Posted by: Maria | September 7, 2008, 6:15 am 6:15 am
J
I have varying issues on abortion with BOTH
Obama and McCain.
So the abortion issue is not a vote changer for me.
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am
Just a few of McCain’s standings involving women.
McCain Opposed Equal Pay Bill for Women, Said They ‘Need Education and Training’ Instead.[Source: aflcio.org; H.R. 2831, Vote 110, 4/23/08; Associated Press, 4/28/08]
McCain Voted to Gut the Family and Medical Leave Act. I[Source: aflcio.org S.Amdt. 16, S. 5, Vote 7, 2/4/93; H.R. 1, Vote 11, 2/4/93]
McCain opposed spending $100 million to prevent unintended and teen pregnancies.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
J
One of the negatives of Obama is that he is never around when things get tough.
In the last 4 votes regarding Abortion….Obama DID NOT vote…….for political purposes.
All the pro-choicers that were counting on him to come through on these important issues were kicked to the curb.
Obama avoids the TOUGH issues and that cannot be good for our nation.
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am
Michelle,
By all means Vote for McCain. Obviously you didn’t care what Hillary stood for if you are going to do that.
McCain is on the opposite end of the spectrum from Hillary on a lot of issues. This spite vote is ridiculous.
This is our country we are talking about not some game. If you look at Palin she is as bad as McCain on some of the bigger issues.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY WOMEN ARE SO HAPPY ABOUT PALIN? SHE GIVES ME THE SENSE THAT SHE ISN’T THE PERSON SHE SAYS SHE IS. REMEMBER SHE’S NUMBER 2. SHE HAS TO DO EVERYTHING THE PRESIDENT SAYS. MCCAIN IS JUST LIKE BUSH. HE DOESN’T FOOL ME AND EITHER DOES PALIN. DON’T LET THE MAKEUP AND SMILE FOOL YOU. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHENEY AND PALIN. LIPSTICK!
Posted by: JUST ME | September 7, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am
Michelle,
The reason I find it hard to take anyone like you seriously is that I can’t believe anyone who really cared about Hillary could stomach a man who told such a nasty joke about her and her daughter. Could you have possibly missed it? (You can Google ‘McCain’s joke about Chelsea’ and find it.) And from what I’ve read, he apologized later–to Bill Clinton! What? As if they’re Bill Clinton’s property he has sullied. It’s Chelsea, Hillary, and Janet Reno he should have apologized to. And this isn’t the first time he’s insulted women in public; he’s got a pattern of doing this, so he’s got to do more than just apologize to show he’s changed. Obama’s occasional slights are nothing compared to McCain’s nasty remarks. Can you please explain how you can justify voting for this man after he was so nasty to Hillary and her daughter?
Posted by: Donna H. | September 7, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am
I am an Independent female voter and all the SEXIST attacks against Gov. Palin by the Democrats have only served to convince me that Women have a LONG WAY TO GO before we are considered equals.
However, we are not going to get there unless we stand up to these type of Sexist Attacks.
My vote in November will be FOR Gov. Palin…..it’s my way of saying NO TO SEXISM.
I can not vote for Obama and his campaign who show such disregard for female politiicans.
Posted by: michelle | Sep 7, 2008 5:19:17 AM
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J ..
You obviously forgot my reason for voting against Obama…so there it is one more time.
You keep trying to make this a Hillary issue and it’s not!
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 6:54 am 6:54 am
J ..
You obviously forgot my reason for voting against Obama…so there it is one more time.
You keep trying to make this a Hillary issue and it’s not!
What part of Hillary brought this out in the open don’t you understand. I am glad she did, but to vote for man that is far away from her policies just out of spite is just plain stupid.
Wasn’t it Palin who called Hillary a whiner???
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
Donna…you and J you keep wanting to make this about Hillary and it’s not.
However, since you want to compare….Obama, Michelle and his campaign treated Hillary and Bill Clinton horribly for the last year and a half.
Obamas campaign spokespersons which are controlled by Obama also were vicious.
Obama also didn’t have very nice things to say about his own grandmother.
Obama also said rural people were “bitter, gun-toting, faithless people.
Obama sees white americans as “Typical white people”
Obama REFUSED and DENIED the most qualified female candidate the VP spot.
So please don’t try to tell me that Obama is nicer to woman than McCain.
OBAMAS ACTIONS HAVE PROVEN THAT HE IS NOT!
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 7:05 am 7:05 am
J
Even if Palin had called Hillary a whiner…that IS NOTHING compared to what Obama and his campaign did and said about Hillary.
s I have said many times this is not about Hillary…you are the one that keeps trying to make it a Hillary issue.
So please stop trying to push that.
Please just accept the fact that while there might be some Women voting for Obama there are just as many who ARE NOT voting or Obama.
This INDEPENDENT will VOTE FOR PALIN.
Posted by: Michelle | September 7, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am
Michelle,
Palin called her a whiner. You want to vote for THAT woman? What’s the deal now that it’s her. It was ok I guess when it was Hillary. You don’t get it. Hillary is the one that put the spotlight on the treatment of women throughout the campaign.
Here is what Palin said :
““When I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism, or maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, ‘Man, that doesn’t do us any good, women in politics, or women in general, trying to progress this country,’ ” Palin said.
To vote against the principles that Hillary Clinton has fought and worked hard for just tells me you were never really a supporter in the first place. If you were, you couldn’t vote McCain.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
J
You can twist all the words you want about Palin…however, I REMEMBER how Obama treated Hillary and it WAS TERRIBLE.
Obama gave HIllary the FINGER
Obama gave Hillary the BRUSH OFF
Obama REFUSED to shake Hillary’s hand
Obama CALLED Hillary a Liar
We have a year and a half of disrespect, so don’t go there.
We are still voting or Gov. Palin.
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am
J
One of the negatives of Obama is that he is never around when things get tough.
In the last 4 votes regarding Abortion….Obama DID NOT vote…….for political purposes.
All the pro-choicers that were counting on him to come through on these important issues were kicked to the curb.
Obama avoids the TOUGH issues and that cannot be good for our nation.
Posted by: michelle | September 7, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
Posted by: michelle | Sep 7, 2008 7:43:27 AM
I haven’t twisted a thing about Palin. Google her and you will find everything I have posted is true. I have even given you links! The same for McCain! I have not posted one thing that is not true.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
J
One of the negatives of Obama is that he is never around when things get tough.
In the last 4 votes regarding Abortion….Obama DID NOT vote…….for political purposes.
All the pro-choicers that were counting on him to come through on these important issues were kicked to the curb.
Obama avoids the TOUGH issues and that cannot be good for our nation.
Posted by: michelle | Sep 7, 2008 7:45:26 AM
You already posted that and if you look into McCain’s record he has missed quite a few important votes as well. As for Palin, she doesn’t even know what the VP does.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am
How can Obama promise change?
Has he tried to reform Chicago Politics away from the powerful DALEY POLITICAL MACHINE to more honest government?
Obama’s first political fundraiser was at the house of a founder of the Weather Underground — a group that credit for a number of bombings against police, government buildings and the military.
Then there is ACORN — a group that has made news for corruption for being involved in schemes for illegal voter registrations.
It is clear that Obama freely associates with those who break the law, and yet he is supposed to be the MESSIAH for America?
If he had worked to reform the DALEY MACHINE, then yes, I might believe him to be a person of positive change.
If he had opposed and denounced the work of Bill Ayers in the Weather Underground, then I might believe him to be a person of positive change.
Finally, as a COMMUNITY ACTIVIST, how has he tried to get ACORN to become a more HONEST organization…
It appears there is a trail of dishonesty and fraud around Obama.
But this is not change — This is old Chicago and Washington Politics.
Posted by: mndasher | Sep 7, 2008 1:20:59 AM
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OBAMA doesn’t give us change he gives us MORE OF THE SAME OLD WASHINGTON POLITICS
Posted by: MARI | September 7, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
Not this woman either? Seems no female seeking elective office would ever please the Obama and his supporters. Hillary did not pass muster and was a racist. Ferarro was a racist. Now Palin does not share Hillary beliefs. Get a clue, Hillary voters are voters not worshippers. We are not awaiting her messianic endorsement to tell us how to think or feel. We are not mindless voters that select a candidate on the single issue of abortion.
The pundits and analysts that thought after the perfunctory primaries that they did not need our vote were wrong. Those that thought the sexist treatment of Clinton would blow over were mistaken. The bottom line is the most qualified Democrat is sitting out this race because she is a woman.
Obama’s empty rhetoric and the Democrats demand for party loyalty have fallen on deaf ears. We always understood that in tough times it takes proven leadership and experience to see us through. The Democratic nominee has neither and therefore he will not get my vote.
Posted by: AB | September 7, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Obama supporters,
The McCain campaign is using these tactics to take focus off the issues.
What we need to remember, and the message that needs to be spread, is that John McCain voted with George Bush 90% of the time and that a McCain administration would just be a continuation of the last 8 years,
Posted by: Lou | September 7, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Obama’s indifferent about America, he’s a “citizen-of-the-world.” Men and women like McCain and Palin make Obama look like exactly what he is: a self-absorbed, adolescent, swishy little socialist.
When McCain beats him, Hill & Bill will take over the DNC on Nov 3rd.
Posted by: Obama Loses 4 the Dems | September 7, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Posted by: AB | Sep 7, 2008 7:55:01 AM
You people just don’t get it. To vote for McCain is not just a slap in the face to Hillary, it is also against everything she works hard for and stands for. His policies aren’t even remotely anywhere near hers.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
Obama supporters – don’t fall for the hype. Continue to do what we as a grassroots organization have done in the past which is . . . knock on doors, get out the vote, talk to neighbors, friends and people on the street and donate.
This charade coming from the Republican party simply will not work this time because we can’t afford it.
We have less than 55 days to go. Let us win this election.
Go Obama/Biden/WE THE PEOPLE 08
Posted by: dotheresearch | September 7, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Posted by: AB | Sep 7, 2008 7:55:01 AM
You people just don’t get it. To vote for McCain is not just a slap in the face to Hillary, it is also against everything she works hard for and stands for. His policies aren’t even remotely anywhere near hers.
Posted by: J | Sep 7, 2008 7:59:49 AM
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J
YOU DO NOT GET IT!
When Obama decided to follow his EGO and REFUSED to give the VP slot to Hillary, the person with the 18 million votes and HUGE following of women.
That was equivalent to OBAMA SLAPPING HILLARY IN THE FACE….but more importantly it was also OBAMA SLAPPING THOSE VOTERS IN THE FACE.
Obama made a huge mistake and is now having to deal with the consequences.
He let his Ego get the best of him, and his arrogance led him to believe he didn’t need those female voters. Well he WAS WRONG.
Posted by: sala | September 7, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
this from the campaign claiming sexism and unfair attacks on their horribly ill equipped vice presidential choice all week
McCain’s campaign manager is getting to the point, literally, of the absurd…
it would be funny if their flagrant disregard for the well being of America over their campaign tactic tricks and Cheney Rovian skills weren’t showing their ugly heads with their hiding their “witness” from the press and saying “oops” when false information shows up repeatedly in speeches…
and then distracting by drawing fire away from themselves and toward the press… the same as the last 8 years.
get rid of these guys…quickly.
Posted by: dl | September 7, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am
I’m sure Hillary will make the best effort she can for Obama, she will show him the same effort he gave to her regarding her campaign debt. Wink and a nod!
Posted by: Jim | September 7, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am
Republicans are hypocrites. They are trying to present Palin as a victim of sexism..
Posted by: indy_voter | September 7, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
Republicans are hypocrites. They are trying to present Palin as a victim of sexism..
Posted by: indy_voter | September 7, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am
Obama’s empty rhetoric and the Democrats demand for party loyalty have fallen on deaf ears. We always understood that in tough times it takes proven leadership and experience to see us through. The Democratic nominee has neither and therefore he will not get my vote.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
James D… so what exactly are you saying – l was unaware that in a country like ours “liberal” was a bad thing (it’s a synonym for ‘progressive’). So WHAT about all those things? The great thing about the USA is that you can be your own person. Obama is certainly that, and the most open, thoughtful, intelligent and kind candidate we have.
Posted by: kcareymac | September 7, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Why is it that B. Hussein Obama keeps his Muslim name?
If I wasn’t a Muslim I would want my American name back!!!!!
When you convert to Islam you take an Islamic name, so if you are not a muslim shouldn’t you take the name you were born with back??????
Seems like a common sense issue.
Posted by: commonsenseplease | September 7, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
The Karl Rove style Republican campaign is a joke. You can fool all the people some of the time but twice was enough. We need Republicans out so the Grid lock they have created the last two years can be cleared out of the way for Congress to address the economy and all our other Republican created problems. The War to start with then on to Georgia and then reenergize our relations with Russia which had been improving until the village idiot started messing with the countries surrounding them.
Posted by: Ernest T Bass | September 7, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Obama is starting to suffer from “media-fatigue” … much of what we saw since Feb 2008 was a clear case of media-circus around Obama at the expense of McCain (and too certain extent Hillary).
Now that McCain has stolen the headlines by naming Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. Palin, with a tumultuous political and personal history, dominated the news, overshadowing efforts by Obama and his running mate, Biden, to tell their own political story.
This is definitely is reflected in the national polling numbers and could give McCain a lead when the next round of polls comes out next week. In swing state Ohio, the projection is for McCain to take the lead over Obama. Now they are tied at 42%.
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | September 7, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
if mccain wants to play that muslim game again LETS PLAY THE POW GAME WITH HIN SINCE HE BRAGS ABOUT IT SO OFTEN————LET HIM PLAY A FEW OF HIS RADIO BROADCASTS FROM THE HANOI HILTON WHEN HE WAS POW—YOU ALL WOULD LOVE THIS ONE
Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
Obama isn’t a Muslim, fair enough, he just knows a lot of them and they like him alot. Iran really likes Obama, and so do the other terrorists. Go figure -its a fact. Let me be clear here, thisn isn’t a personal attack, I am dissapointed that Mr. Obama Senator, is again whining about his associations.
Sen. Obama isn’t corrupt, he just knows a lot of corrupt people. Sen Obama doesn’t hate America, he just spent 20 years with a real doozy. Sen Barack isn’t a terroist, he just worked closely with one as “a community organizer”. He is begining to sound like the 3M candidate. No real products.
Barack hasn’t really “changed” anything, he just “hopes” he can. I searched for Barak’s accomplishments on the interent. Its still running – I will get back to you on that.
If you want a ticket that has a demonstrated record of working for change, then keep an open mind. Watch the debates. Go back and look at the videos from the RNC campaign. I know you want to. it will change your life. To quote a well known news pundit, “You will get tingles up your legs”.
INFIDEL>
Posted by: Infidel | September 7, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
McCain/Plain=Popeye/Split Tail
Posted by: ronnieraygun | September 7, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
After watching McCain & Plain at the RNC convention an old saying jumped out at me. “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups”.
Posted by: Ernest T Bass | September 7, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am
HERE IT IS SUNDAY AND OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS ARE STILL IN IRAQ—-BILLIONS OF DOLLARS STILL GOING THERE—MCCAIN MCBUSH ONE AND THE SAME———————–NOW WE NEED TO LEARN CHINESE AS THEY ARE IN CONTROLL AND GETTING ALL THE OIL BENIFITS OUT OF IRAQ—
OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS DIEING FOR THE CHINESE—I HAVE A DEFINITE PROBLEM WITH THAT AND THIS WAR THAT MCCAIN IS IN FAVOR OF SEND HIM THERE FOR 100 YEARS AS HE STATED WE WOULD STAY—ALL FOR CHINA—–WHY ISNT EVERYONE OUTRAGED
Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am
Who is Sarah Palin?
Great Celebrity… she is already all over the cover of the magazines.
She can perform well with the written script.
But, she never speaks on her own. no “Meet the Press”, No “Face the Nation”, No “This Week”.
Oh, These are too difficult Programs for her bird’s brain.
Posted by: zen | September 7, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
USvet,
If Palin is elected as VP this time,
She will be a GOP Presidential Nomenee in 2012, Do you think hillary can beat her then?
After 4 years of VP experience and popularity, Palin will beat hillary handily.
Maybe you want to cut your hands at that time.
Be smart. Learn from Hillary
Posted by: zen | September 7, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am
As a former Hillary Supporter and Delegate, I would like to say that the last week or so has only served to remind me of all the Obama vicious attacks and lies.
Hillary asked us to support Obama and some of us are trying to do that, however, it appears that Obama HAS NOT CHANGED>
He continues to play the victim role and continues to work at creating a HUGE DIVIDE between Americans.
I can no longer stand by him and come November this DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO VOTE FOR PALIN.
Posted by: annie | Sep 7, 2008 5:00:45 AM
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You’re right all the attacks on females are getting old.
I know Gov. Palin is no Hillary but NEITHER is Sen. Obama.
If I have to chose between those two, I am also going to vote for Gov. Palin.
Posted by: Maria | Sep 7, 2008 6:15:58 AM
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Agreed….time to stand up for women.
LATINAS SUPPORT PALIN
Posted by: ROSA | September 7, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
I trust American people.
I trust common sense.
When soberity comes back, the choice will be clear.
Posted by: zen | September 7, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
They’re correct OBAMA LOVES PLAYING THE VICTIM ROLE.
He also doesn’t mind dividing the nation as long as it’s for his OWN political gain.
E N O U G H OF THE WHINING OBAMA….time to act like a man.
Posted by: Justin | September 7, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
Pumas,
If Palin is elected as VP this time,
She will be a GOP Presidential Nomenee in 2012, Do you think hillary can beat her then?
After 4 years of VP experience and popularity, Palin will beat hillary handily.
Maybe you want to cut your hands at that time.
Be smart.
Posted by: zen | September 7, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am
Well, ignorance is bliss. One only has to look at current events to see that terrorists come in all shapes and sizes….Jew, Christian, Muslim, those who don’t believe in the God of the Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, kids that shoot up schools, etc.!
Maybe folks are looking at how others are acting and speaking and wondering if they are closet terrorists.
It is obvious today that nobody can be trusted!
Why don’t they just deal with the issues. This is just side-track bull so that either side doesn’t have to show who they really are and what they really believe so America can make an informed decision.
Posted by: The Rhetoric is Getting Old | September 7, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Glad to finally see someone calling out BO for his shenanigans! Obama has been talking this BS for weeks, months even. It is pathetic!
Obama.
Is.
Desperate.
He.
Will.
Say.
Or.
Do.
ANYTHING.
Country First!
McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary ’12
Posted by: USVet | Sep 6, 2008 8:17:23 PM
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Agreed OBAMA WILL SAY OR DO ANYTHING TO GET YOUR VOTE
Too bad for him, we’ve seen him do this too many times, so we aren’t buying his used goods.
Posted by: rosa | September 7, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Who is playing cards more often?
How about Maccain’s POW Card? Even republicans will be sick of it.
Posted by: zen | September 7, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
Obama is starting to suffer from “media-fatigue” … much of what we saw since Feb 2008 was a clear case of media-circus around Obama at the expense of McCain (and too certain extent Hillary).
Now that McCain has stolen the headlines by naming Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. Palin, with a tumultuous political and personal history, dominated the news, overshadowing efforts by Obama and his running mate, Biden, to tell their own political story.
This is definitely is reflected in the national polling numbers and could give McCain a lead when the next round of polls comes out next week. In swing state Ohio, the projection is for McCain to take the lead over Obama. Now they are tied at 42%.
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | Sep 7, 2008 8:22:19 AM
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Obama is all about Obama, so he’s probably having a temper tantrum now that the attention is not on him.
Posted by: rosa | September 7, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am
J
You can twist all the words you want about Palin…however, I REMEMBER how Obama treated Hillary and it WAS TERRIBLE.
Obama gave HIllary the FINGER
Obama gave Hillary the BRUSH OFF
Obama REFUSED to shake Hillary’s hand
Obama CALLED Hillary a Liar
We have a year and a half of disrespect, so don’t go there.
We are still voting or Gov. Palin.
Posted by: michelle | Sep 7, 2008 7:43:27 AM
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The Obama supporters keep trying to push us against Palin, but it’s not working.
We remember exactly what Obama is about….and it’s NOT WOMEN
Posted by: rosa | September 7, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
I don’t understand why Obama doesn’t just release the records from the University of Chicago and talk about his time as a lawyer and eductator. Start listing his accomplishments instead of just vague references to his “experience”. Tell us all the great things you accomplished and McCain will be toasted…
Posted by: Jason | September 7, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
JASON
IF YOU WANT MCCAIN TOASTED –PLAY A FEW OF HIS POW BROADCASTS FROM THE HANOI HILTON.
Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Obama can surely dish it out, but he cannot take it. As soon as things are not going his way, he starts complaining “They are picking on me”. What a jerk. I can see him trying to deal with the foreign powers.
McCain has all of the foreign and war experience. Sarah will fill in the rest. Wonderful Team, and Obama knows it, this is why he is Whining!!!!
Posted by: RuthD. | September 7, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
We know that Obama is a pathological liar . . . this has been proven many times. It would be very dangerous to have a president as insecure and narcicistic as he is.
Posted by: Lynn | September 7, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
This is the typical Republican strategy that so many of their acolytes follow: attempt to make people afraid of Obama by linking him to the things people fear, then attack Obama for shooting back.
Shameful behavior by the Republicans, shameful behavior by their followers.
It shows the little minds that operate in the Rovian world. It worked last election; it won’t work this time.
Posted by: Kira | September 7, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
it is kind of strange how people make up lies about obama–and then work at believing them.
but hide the truth about mccain.
DOESNT ANYONE QUESTION WHY HIS MILITARY RECORDS ARE SEALED—YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED.
Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
To the Hillary “supporters” who will vote for McCain: I voted for Hillary, but now I support Obama because his platform and ideology are aligned with Hillary’s, just as Hillary indicated.
However, I knew this before Hillary told it to her supporters because I’m a well-read, well-informed voter. Namely, I know why I’m a Democrat and the reason why is not based in my ovaries.
Posted by: Victoria | September 7, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Who is playing cards more often?
How about Maccain’s POW Card? Even republicans will be sick of it.
Posted by: zen | Sep 7, 2008 8:53:00 AM
Obama keeps playing the card “Look at me! I am a victim! Those Republicans point out my friends are terrorists, my pastor hates America and he is my mentor! Oops, was my mentor for over 20 years. Now I disavow all the bad things he said. Those Republicans will also tell you I don’t look the same as those other presidents, I am somehow different (wink, wink).Can you guess how I’m different? Brothers and sisters, vote for me!”
McCain keeps playing the card “Look at my time as pow. While there I became less interested in myself and more in love of my country. It has influenced a large part of who I am today, a person who will dedicate his life for America.”
What a contrast.
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
I’ve noticed that when an unflattering story about McCain is posted, the comments start with 10 or 20 from the same person(s) with all the Republican talking points. They have gotten pretty good at cornering the Comments so that an uninformed individual would actually think McCain is a decent candidate.
Posted by: eviltwinthelma | September 7, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
To poster Funny Republicans?:
So much irony, so much cognitive dissonance, so much material!
Work for comedians will get much, much harder when Obama gets into office.
Posted by: Victoria | September 7, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
debbie
DID YOU EVER HEAR OF IRAQ.
Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
“Wha.. Wha.. Wha.. what they are do.. do.. doing is ah.. ah.. ah.. um.. um.. picking on um.. um.. um.. me”.
Dont know how this wimpy lawyer got through law school with his inability to speak without a teleprompter. Can anyone say… affirmative action?
Posted by: sandi | September 7, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
“O Mama, the other kids don’t want to play fair!”
After the inflated ego Obama got from all the Media hype and attention, he cannot accept the reality of politics in America. He cannot beleive that people are actually criticizing his vague ideas. When he starts talking to foreign powers (ie Russia) and they don’t listen, is he going to call Hillary to complain
Posted by: John S. | September 7, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
I watchedc the video of our first war against Iraq, the one in which there were no American casualties.
It showed me Iraq was never a threat to America. The Iraq army under Sadam was pathetic.
The Americans that voted for Bush, from fear and greed, will answer to God. They are responsible for the needless deaths of over 4,000 good Americans.
Posted by: Steve | September 7, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Just like Obama. First, the sexist card. Then, the race card. Now, he plays the religion card.
How can people get serious about a candidate who thinks he’s a victim? Especially one who has no policy.
Posted by: Aston | September 7, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Well, Stevorino, perhaps the entire democrat party and the entire international community disagreed with your assessment of Iraq. Playing monday morning quarterback to bash Bush is certainly disingenuous dontcha think?
Posted by: Don | September 7, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
All you people with the B.O. blinders on just have to googleto see which one is a real politician and who has actually run a government office…Who balanced a budget and who controlled spending… I say look at Palin as everyone of the Democrats seem to think that she is only a heart beat away from being our Pres… And to show that even the V.P. pick there has more qualifications to than either of the Democrats…
Have we all forgotten 9/11/2001 already… How could you even think about letting anyone with a name that is SOOOOOOOOOOO muslin(even thought some of you do not believe he is) sounding be our Pres.????????
It must have worked,the dumbing down of America(ie Multiculturalism taught in schools, and slowing their education cause of language barriers)because now people are voting because of color and not looking at who would be best for the PEOPLE… B.O. is playing on Americans guilt for thinking we are Bigots, but we are one of the few countries where ANYONE who asserts themselves can get a better life( unfortunately we also reward the lazy and shiftless with welfare)
I am sorry for anyone who may be offended by these truths(as my research has shown me), but reality is not pretty.. Do the reaserch and see for yourselfs what is what… No One is perfect but at least McCain has fought and suffered for my freedom and doesn’t want to give everything to other countries at my expense can that be said about B.O.??.
God Bless(yes I am one of those who believes)
Posted by: Dale | September 7, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Steve
If Obama is elected, we just might!
Posted by: john S. | September 7, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
We read somewhere that “defenders of Palin say Why aren’t similar questions asked of male candidates with large families and personal struggles?” Well let’s turn this around shall we. If Palin was a man and when CNN asked the question about her national guard knowledge or other important issues McCain wouldn’t protect him, and diss an appearance on CNN because it was too harsh, which it wasn’t. Palin’s treated with kid gloves and if your running for VP all American questions and issues are on the table and she should be interviewed and forced to answer. Lastly, it’s nice to know that McCain has endorsed Barack by copying his idea of Change. He must really think Obama has the better campaign idea to use it. But at least we know Obama will bring the Change we are craving for. McCain will say it but bring the same ole’ 8 years we’ve been subjected to. It’s easy to forget but it’s important to remember on election day. Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: SN | September 7, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
McCain isn’t making Obama scared of me, Obama’s frightening relationships are what is making me scared of Obama.
Not to mention his supporters have more hate inside then anyone I have ever met.
Obama is dividing the country.
Posted by: Phil | September 7, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Interesting to watch the right-wing desperados scurrying furiously to right the wrong that is Palin. How easy it is for them to ignore her embattled biography as they babble on furiously, trying to elevate this person to sainthood…easy to do, however, in the vacuum of competence within which they work.
Posted by: Victoria | September 7, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Noun, verb, POW: Talk about playing the victim!
Anyway, it’s all he’s got to offer.
Posted by: Victoria | September 7, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
The “Play Victim Card” that Obama pulled on Geraldine Ferraro will return to bite Obama/Biden this Fall.
Ferraro remains angry at the “sexist treatment” of Mrs Clinton by the media. “In New Hampshire, someone put up a sign saying ‘Iron My Shirt’. Nobody spoke out. Imagine if Hillary’s supporters had said [to Obama] “SHINE MY SHOES”. Everybody would quite rightly have been jumping on it. Women in politics should not be treated better than men, just FAIRLY.”
A host of “Ferraro Bridgade” will be pulling the lever this Fall. I do not want to speculate how they will be voting…but IT IS GOING TO BE a BLOC to be RECKONED with, now that PALIN on McCain ticket !!!
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | September 7, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
DAVE
EVER WONDER WHY MCCAINS MILITARY RECORDS ARE SEALED——IF IT WERE GOOD IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE NEWS.
MCCAIN STATED HIMSELF THAT HIS ONLY AMBITION IS TO BE PRES—–AND SINCE HE HAS PROVEN TO HAVE A VERY LOW IQ—WHAT COULD HE POSSIBLY DO FOR ANYONE.
THIS GUY IS A —D—AVERAGE AT BEST—THIS IS PUBLISHED FACT
Posted by: rodney | Sep 7, 2008 9:41:52 AM
I am surprised no Dem has ever asked why Kerry’s records are still sealed AFTER he said he would release them. We are still waiting.
As for McCain’s military records or grades he got in college or grade school 40 years ago, I don’t care. For the most part what happened 40 years ago is irrelevant.
As far as IQ is concerned I and most people have first hand knowledge of people with high IQ’s who also have no common sense, no character and are not ethical.
McCain’s plans have common sense.
When Obama says he will force oil companies to drill for oil where they haven’t found any or by greatly increasing taxes on companies they will lower prices, hire more people and pay them a higher wage just doesn’t make sense.
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
ASTON
GET HIS MILITARY RECORDS UNEDITED AND WE CAN ALL MAKE THE DECISION AS TO THE POW.
Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Steve, the great military genius because,
“I watched the video of our first war against Iraq…It showed me Iraq was never a threat to America.”
I stayed in a Holiday Inn once too.
Posted by: sandi | September 7, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Here we have another useless string of posts. Everyone picking a side and bashing the other. There’s not a logical, unbiased statement in the entire string.
More and more, I’m starting to believe that the majority of Americans shouldn’t be allowed to vote:
-hatred
-pride
-ignorance
Posted by: Brad Rogers | September 7, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
It takes more than testosterone to shape a man’s character. And McCain’s time in a POW camp doesn’t make him “manly.” It doesn’t even qualify him to be a president.
I’ll take an intellectual pragmatist over a pouting bully any day.
Posted by: Victoria | September 7, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Rodney,
I agree with you that Hawking is a much better public speaker than 0bama. People shouldnt make fun of Hawking’s physical disabilities or 0bama’s mental disabilities.
Posted by: sandi | September 7, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
SANDI
YOU JUST DESCRIBED YOUR —-D— AVERAGE
MCCAIN
Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Ladies: Notice how Obama and his cronies are disrespectfully treating Palin as they mistreated and disrespected Hillary Clinton and her supporters! Those of you who were swayed after the Democratic convention I respectfully request that you come back over to the mcCain side and vote McCain. The abusive behavior and treatment continues to women by the Democratic party and the Obama camp! Please use your vote to send a message to Senator Obama and the Democratic party that when a women candidate is mistreated from either party that we will boycott them and vote for the other candidate! The Rasmussen poll has Obama and McCain tied today at 46% to 46% and when leaners are considered it is still tied at 48% to 48%! Help us defeat Obama and his political machine and send him packing back to his known thug associates to Chicago!
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 7, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Rodney “IT IS RATHER FUNNY WHEN the people ASK FOR 0bama’s RECORDS like law firm,or grades even a birth certificate HOW they’re lost or unavailable ,—-WOW ALL WE WANT are HIS RECORDS—IS THAT TOO DIFFICULT OR ARE WE LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF LIES,,,”
Posted by: sandi | September 7, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
WITNESSES
ARE THESE THE SAME ONES INVOLVED WITH HIM SPREADING PROPAGANDA–WHAT ABOUT THOSE LEFT BEHIND TO DIE—-THAT IS WHY HIS RECORDS ARE SEALED…HE CANNOT HIDE FROM EVERYONE.I WOULD LET IT ALL BE GONE IF HE WOULD STOP THE HERO POW CRAP
Posted by: rodney | September 7, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
Dear Brad,
If you consider the red meat Jake Tapper has thrown to readers, these slings and arrows may make more sense to you.
His article informs the horserace, not the issues debate, so we take the poop left behind and fling it at one another.
Most voters don’t read much more than what scrolls across the bottom of the television screen. 24-hour news channels don’t cover the issues. The MSM doesn’t provide all the facts.
Etc.
Most voters are LAZY and emotional.
This stuff is what they use to make their decision every 4 years. Since the 90s, when being truly informed became passe, the right wing conservatives have had the microphone.
And look at the resulting disaster that has been the last 8 years. So some of us on the other side have decided to defend our positions, and this is one forum to do so.
You hastily assume that many posters here don’t read or write thoughtfully otherwise. You are wrong in that assumption.
Posted by: Victoria | September 7, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Barak Obama got a free ride from mainstream media and DNC party goons to his selection as democratic nominee. The ride is over! You will not be able to use your race or religion cards on McCain/Palin. Unlike Senator Clinton, who was betrayed by the so called leaders of the Democratic Party, Senator McCain and Governor Palin have the support of the Republican Party. The Republican Party will not allow Senator Obama and his supporters to bash Senator McCain and Governor Palin. My advise to Senator Obama is to put away his race, gender, and religion cards. Senator Obama did not take a stand when President Clinton and were called a racist and he also allowed continued blatant sexism and misogyny against Senator Clinton during the primary campaign. Enough! I’m confident that, unline the Democratic Party, the Republican Party will respond quickly and appropriately to any attempts to discredit or devalue Senator McCain and Governor Palin.
Posted by: Carmine | September 7, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Amen, Jennifer from the Twin Cities!
Posted by: Victoria | September 7, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Here is the difference….. Obama DID attend a muslim school.. that is an indisputable fact. What values he holds in his heart only he knows for sure, as his speeches change like a chameleon depending upon his audience. Sarah Palin was attacked based on her gender!!! Vicious untruths were spoken about her as well. We always tell our 11 year old daughter that intelligent people rely on FACTS. Unintelligent people rely on rumors and name calling. That is as true in the adult world as it is in the sixth grade. Obama is at a loss now because he is an empty suit and it is all coming to light. Let us not forget that this is a man who cannot even manage his personal finances. He had to call upon his close friend Tony Rezko to give him money to buy his home because he could not afford it. He was willing to live beyond his means by giving political favor to the tune of millions of dollars in tax payer money in exchange. If that is what he does with his own personal finances.. then God help us what he would do with our money.
Posted by: Colleen | September 7, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Mary Ann,
In your dreams.
Your pathetic effort to make Obama out to be some anti-female pig isn’t going to work.
I am a woman who came of age during the late sixties and seventies. I have been through the h*ll that was the effort to keep women down and in their places.
I experienced prejudice.
I dealt with men who sneered and laughed about women who didn’t know their place.
You can lie all you want, but the bulk of those men were (and remain) Republicans–the fine folks who want to take us back to the peaceful 1950s, when women were best kept barefoot and pregnant.
Go spill your sexist lies someplace else where people don’t know better.
Obama is not the man you wishes he were to make your lies work; he is, of the two men running for presidency, the ONLY one who understands the needs of women.
I, for one, REFUSE to be scared or shamed into voting Republican because of your sexist nonsense.
Take your ball and chain and go home to your laundry and your kitchen and vote McCain–if your man allows it.
I, for one, want to move forward, not back.
Posted by: Deb | September 7, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Colleen,
He also went to a Catholic church. How convenient to forget that, but then truth never seems to play into the Republican spin machine.
World, be afraid! Obama went to parochial schools–not as a practicing member of the church these schools were affiliated with, but that’s just too much for some folks to take in.
Be afraid because he has experienced a variety of cultures and religions and comes to us with an open mind and heart.
That’s what the Republicans fear; that is why they are dancing like crazy spreading lies about a decent man.
Fear is in the spin, and the Rovian nature of the Republican spin is sickening.
Posted by: deb | September 7, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
By the way, so what if Obama attended a Muslim school? What does that really mean to you?
I attended Catholic schools for 12 years.
What does that make me?
Posted by: Victoria | September 7, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
This may surprise some people, but not all Republicans are alike. Also news, Bush is not running in this election.
Both Obama and McCain will bring about change.
85% of small businesses pay taxes on their schedule C as individuals. Over 75% of those making over $250k are small businesses.
If you believe Obama’s plan to heavily tax business will lower gas prices, encourage them to hire more people and pay their employees more money, vote Obama.
But it doesn’t make sense.
Our economy right now sucks but as of today with 6% unemployment, it is still the best economy in the western world.
Under Jimmy Carter, we ended up with 21% inflation, 18% interest rates and 12% unemployment. Things can get worse.
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Deb,
Any young and impressionable grade school child will internalize what they learn in school. Additionally, the step father with whom he was raised is an admitted Radical Muslim.So the values and lessons he learned in school were reinforced at home with a radical spin. In no way am I disparaging Muslims in general who predominantly despise the radical sect of their religion. What I do not understand is why those who are pro-Obama don’t just come out and say what it is they really want… a Socialist United States. Call a spade a spade for pete sake. Why are you so afraid to really stand up for what it is you seek?
Posted by: colleen | September 7, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
It’s hilarious to me that all of a sudden Hillary Clinton, the most hated enemy of the neurotic Right wing for decades, is suddenly embraced as some sort of “victim” after her battle with Obama – for facing attacks that were a mere tenth of the hatred, lies and vitriol that spewed out of Republican mouthpieces for years.
Rest assured, if Hillary had become the nominee, McCain would have picked a black running mate and been crying “racism” right now.
If there actually are any women that feel slighted by the Democratic campaign, they’re smart enough to know not to cut off their nose to spite their face.
No insult is worth four more years of incompetent international policy coupled with the dismantling of our domestic infrastructure in order to allow tax cuts for the already very wealthy.
In the last eight years, the average American’s taxes were not cut nearly as much as government services and responsibilities have been, all while increasing spending and the size and power of the government.
In two months we’ll learn if America has finally learned just how badly Republicans have managed the very government they claim is the enemy.
Posted by: mkoch | September 7, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
The latest Republican complaint used to separate the American people is that asking Palin questions or even interviewing her is sexist. Excuse me, but Palin is a job applicant for a very important job. How many readers have been able to go into a job interview and tell the people hiring her/him that she/he will select the questions and determine who asks them. No reader can honestly answer in the affirmative.
The McCain campaign is controlling access and information about the V.P. pick. Her selection and the McCain camp’s handling of it make the Dan Quayle pick for V.P. look brilliant.
Posted by: Pete A | September 7, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Deb,
You speak with such authority about the upbringing and soul of Barack Obama.
Black and white thinking is rigid and, frankly, boring. Not to mention dangerous
and self-defeating.
As a progressive, I like democracy and free will. I believe that as we help others, we help ourselves. Free will and personal responsiblity are compatible with government intervention that seeks to protect its citizens and ensure fair distribution of resources.
I don’t want the government making my shoes. That’s socialism.
If you like democracy, then you’ll understand why a strong middle class is essential to its well-being. The middle class protects the very poor from the very wealthy. It prevents an oligarchy, which (as you know) precludes
democratic institutions.
Over the past 8 years the US has slid quickly toward oligarchy, and some would argue that we are now a budding fascist state. (China certainly is.)
Our economy, our intellectual progress, our inventiveness, our standard of living always thrive under Democratic presidents. And somehow, with all that progress, we remained a strong democracy with civil liberties largely intact, and an international leader.
Go figure.
Posted by: Victoria | September 7, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
How many times he voted present ?? 114 times.
And the button to mark “Present” in the senate is “Yellow”.
Now with such a record it will be tough on Obama– even to vote for himself. He might vote McCain.
Mccain/Palin 08
Posted by: Vic | September 7, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Even before the full effect of RNC Convention Bounce is kicking in, the average of all polls (CNN, CBS, Gallup, Ramussen, Hotline) is showing Obama leading by a wafer thin margin of 1.8%. McCain is now 44.6% snapping away at Obama 46.4%
I know a lot of Obama supporters are going to say they do not believe in polls….they are afterall …. JUST POLLS !!!
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | September 7, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
FACT: It has been proven and Obama does not deny that he has surrounded himserlf with racists and terrorists yet the Dems think this is OK. This is a very blatant example of hypocrisy!!!!!!!! STOP RACISM WHEREVER IT EXISTS! NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Rocco | September 7, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Country first, indeed.
Let’s fix the mess that eight years of Republican policy has made of it.
Country first!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: mkoch | September 7, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
hey Obama voted preasent 130 times.
Ask Obama when life begins and he well tell you that it is above his pay grade.
I would say thast Obama is the racis
person in this race.
Posted by: Daqvid A. Arndt | September 7, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
McCain has truly sold his soul to the devil. Not only has he bent over backwards for his ex-arch rival King George, but he picks a VP with a similiar abysmal ethical record. But, sadly, this isn’t so shocking after the last crappy eight years of Republican rule. Obama is the better alternative by far.
-Independent voter
Posted by: McDisappointing | September 7, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
It’s official. These comment forums provide no constructive value at all…only a venue for ignorant, proud Americans to further cement their bigotry, and closed-mindedness iton their own world view. This goes for both parties.
If you don’t have anything constructive to contribute, stay out of the forum.
Posted by: Brad | September 7, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
To the talking point repeaters who obsess over “present” votes – get your facts straight. The 130 votes you refer to were Illinois state senate votes, not during his time as US Senator.
It is a common technique in that Senate, often part of a team strategy or a means of protesting certain parts of bills.
It may mean what you’re trying too imply, but it also may not, there’s plenty of room for interpretation.
The Republican campaign: “Elect us, and we’ll throw ourselves out of office and clean up the mess we’ve made by continuing our current policy! Now THAT’s change!.”
Really. At some point you’re going to over estimate the gullibility of the public.
Posted by: mkoch | September 7, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
I think Obama made a massive critical error by choosing Biden for VP. If only he had the wisdom and foresight of our hero John McCain maybe Obama could have picked one damn good ex-PTA President with absolutely no political experience and — unlike Palin — no big-time political connections. That would undoubtedly trump the Palin effect. If McCain wins come November, I’ll be the first to say “God Bless America the Mediocre!”
Posted by: Freddie Mac | September 7, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Strange about that letter from someone from Wasilla, Alaska.
Alaska doesn’t have a sales tax.
The book banning has been bebunked as a smear.
There are about 4 letters from Wasilla that have smears and lies. What a joke.
Too many wrongs shows how the liberals are smearing Gov Palin.
Posted by: rapp | September 7, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
OK … Obamanites…… as you hopefully already know, it is not the President who legislates, it is our Congress. Kindly explain why the present Democratic Congress has such a low approval rating. Rasmussen reports a 9% approval rating of Congress. Gallup is more generous with a 20% approval rating. If you truly stand behind your selections then why is the approval so low?
Posted by: Colleen | September 7, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
In his book, Obama staes….
“When the political winds shift, I will stand with my Muslim brothers”
READ HIS BOOK, SEE WHAT HE WROTE!
Posted by: Brad | September 7, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
I am a Registered Nurse in the State of New Jersey. People complain left and right about the high cost of health care. Let me be the first to tell you that it is not the lack of dollars being put into health care in the United States… but rather, it is the incessant increase in regulation that is crippling the system. A major problem is also the litigious society in which we live. Doctors are constantly ordering unnecessary tests and consults just to cover their arse. Do you realize that any addict, convicted felon or sociopath who has used up their government assistance just has to go to the nearest emergency room and say “I think I want to kill myself” and they can come in for 3 hots and a cot, hang around a few days or as is often the case, weeks, on our dime and then be placed in some type of government assisted living…
This goes on daily. Government regulations also stipulate that there be a highly paid, masters prepared “movement therapist” or “music therapist” to entertain them while they are camping out. No one says that music isn’t good for the soul… but why not turn on the radio? More government regulation will cripple the healthcare system and any other entity it gets involved in. As it is now nurses are forced to spend far more time satisfying regulations and policies than they are providing direct patient care. It’s all about the paperwork.. not about the patient…. more money will not fix this problem.
Posted by: Colleen | September 7, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Colleen,
That’s easy. Every good bill the Democrats introduce gets blocked by Republicans or vetoed by Bush. For example, when the housing relief bill was introduced, almost all Republicans voted against it, the President threatened to veto it. Why because they don’t want Democrats taking credit for fixing the economy. That’s really doing alot of good for Americans. Then we have to tack on some more garbage on the bill so the lobbyists and corporations that control the Republican party get something out of it, in order to finally pass it.
Posted by: congress mess | September 7, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
A communist country just put on the best Olympics ever AND won the most gold medals. There were just too few Moms and Dads like Michael Phelp’s or Shawn Johnson’s who’s sacrifice was enough to propel their kids to the top. The rest were too distracted by mortgage failures, medical expenses, gas prices and educational budget-cuts, all problems that grew during two-plus decades of rising corporate profits and tax-cuts. (3/4th of Fortune 500 companies pay ZERO taxes today through loopholes, while consumers and small businesses make up for them) Yet big companies and large shareholders continue to divert most re-investment to foreign shores.
China is also growing twice as fast as the US and is the new operations center for some of America’s biggest companies. They did it by greatly expanding their middle-class with sustained investments in education, healthcare and housing and energy…all things that that have been draining our middle-class since the two Bush Presidents piled on the debt, sold it to other countries and blindly deregulated everything. Wake up America. It was NEVER about Socialism vs. Capitalism…China has both. Its about government policies that help us help ourselves AND channeling the private sector’s natural profit incentive to actually help the country instead of legally stealing from it.
McCain/Palin want to double down on big corporate tax cuts and further deregulate big oil, healthcare, education. No matter their good home-town intentions, they cannot drive good policy when it is written for them by hundreds of big-corporate lobbyists. This election is possibly the last chance to save the working middle-class and everything it does for this country, otherwise many of us will be applying for jobs in China in a few years. It is unbelievable that many voters are still voting based on identity politics…”my vote will only go to a ‘woman’ or ‘war vet’ or “someone more like me.”
Posted by: Young Atheart | September 7, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
The root of economic downturn is not tied to either the Congress or the President. The root of our economic issues is the direct result of the Federal Reserve printing more paper money without the Gold to back it up. The more money they print.. the less the value. Now they are going to bail out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.. that will add Billions if not Trillions to our deficit. We can thank Both Alan Greenspan who served as the head of the federal reserve for more than 18 years under four U.S. presidents and Ben Bernanke who has served for two years.
Someone here chastised Sarah Palin as not having enough “political” experience. Political experience is not the same as leadership experience. Leadership and decision making skills are transferrable to any arena.
I am curious to know how many people here are employed by the Public sector… teachers, police, township/city workers, etc. who all have a vested interest in bigger government.
Just for the record.. personally, neither myself nor my family has ever been employed by any government entity… just curious is all.
Posted by: Colleen | September 7, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Colleen,
Nonsense about internalizing. I have two daughters; both went to various parochial school. Neither of them internalized anything about the church; they did get an excellent education.
They are now adults and guess what? They haven’t turned (horrors!) into Catholics or into evengelicals. They are who they are, who the family made them, and they have incorporated their various experienced to become OPEN MINDED, FAIR, SENSITIVE individuals who won’t succumb to fear-mongering like you are attempting to do.
Posted by: Deb | September 7, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Re the finger:
This is how the Republicans work:
Barack Obama uses the middle finger of his hand to scratch his face. He is not the only person in the world to do so, but the Republicans would like to make you think he is.
So during a speech he gave, he had an itch and he scratched–guess what?–with his middle finger.
Leave it to the insane, inane Republicans to take an innocent act and try to layer it with all sorts of diabolical meaning.
These people are morally corrupt. They are liars. They are fear-mongerers.
Defeating John McCain will do little to silence their hatred, but it will do much to advance the US.
Posted by: Kiwi | September 7, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Deb,
As you stated, your children internalized what they were taught in the home. I am sure Barrak Obama did as well… and THAT is my point. He was raised by radical extremists. This is the country of acceptance of different viewpoints. I accept that his viewpoint is different from mine. I just do not happen to agree with it. I have travelled to Europe, housed countless foreign exchange students (without any compensation) and attended one of the most culturally diverse campuses in the nation.. where despite my caucasian skin I was nominated to be the class president. There are good and bad among every sector of society. What I oppose most with Obama is that he is not forthright about his opinions and views. There is not now nor will there likely ever be anyone running for office who has not made a mistake or two in the past… that is part of the human condition. But… to not own up for mistakes and attempt to sweep them under the rug is wrong. Obama wants a socialist country.. period… that is his choice… as well as the choice of his followers. There are many in the world who apparently prefer that form of government. Why is he not forthright in his speeches and stating precisely what his goal is.
As for the commentor who praised China as being both socialism and capitalism. … According to Marxist theory.. socialism is the bridge between capitalism and communism… therefore there will always be a time when both exist simultaneously as the change is gradual.
The average Chinese person lives in squalor. They cannot even breathe the air without a mask.. Personally I don’t think that is all that Grand!
Posted by: colleen | September 7, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
How do Republians on here define Liberal? What does liberal mean?
Posted by: liberal meaning | September 7, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
after all Obama is the most Liberal of anyone in Congress right?
Posted by: liberal meaning | September 7, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Obama “accidentally” uses his middle finger.
Obama “accidentally” says there are 57 states.
Today, he “accidentally” said he was a Muslim.
Could America afford his “accidents” if he became president?
Posted by: Roger | September 7, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
There is NO indication that Obama was raised in a radical home–that is another of the dirty rotten Republican scandolous lies. Other than the fact that his mother married no-whites (yes, I understand that probably does make her a radical in your eyes) AND her husbands did not practice Christianity, that DOES NOT make her a radical.
What is does make her, from everything I have read, is a devoted mother who got up before dawn to study with her son, her worked hard to send him to the best of schools regardless of whether they had Republican stamps of approval on them, and when she could no longer provide for her son in the way she thought best, she asked her parents to look after him.
Now, are you saying any of this is radical?
And are you saying that these two Kansas city stalwarts who worked for the US government in WWII (one as a soldier, one on an assembly line) were radical? Because that is as much Obama’s background as anything else.
Oh, I forgot, you Republicans can spin anything into a web of lies. Disgusting. Positively disgusting.
Posted by: Deb | September 7, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Yes, he scratches his face with his middle finger. So what? Only a warped little mind would obsess over that.
Yes he misspoke when he said 57 states; most of us realize he meant 57 primaries, but Republicans simply cannot grasp that folks make mistakes and misspeak–unless, of course, it is the master of gaffes himself, John S McCain. So how come you don’t obsess on all the great McCain’s mistakes and misspeaks? Because on any day of the week I would pile up all the mistakes McCain has made against those Obama has. Oh, but that wouldn’t be fair. That would be whining. That would be something terrible. Obama is supposes to take all the crap coming his way but if he raises his voice against it, he is whining or playing the victim or something.
And as for the bit about the Muslim–well, deal with it. I would rather have someone in the WH who has taken the time to learn something about other cultures and religions rather than someone who can parrot back one phrase whenever something bad happens “But I was a POW”
Posted by: Kitty | September 7, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Ever heard of the phrase empty vessels
make the most noise? The vessel’s of the
democratic party are howling with that
singular one-noted sound. I also suspect
that there is a gnashing of teeth that
so represents the party of tolerance.
Posted by: XRAYeye | September 7, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
XRAYeye,
That pretty much sums up the Republican party. Complain about the liberal media, the liberal educational system, the liberal this the liberal that. Who knows the most? Don’t you think maybe the liberal universities? And what do you call blow hards like Limbaugh, Hannity, and O’reilly? Making a whole lot of noise, and not saying nothing. Since I’ve been on this blog I’ve seen nothing but smears left and right by Republicans. Give me a break. The difference between Democratic arguments and Republican arguments, Democrats back them up. Republicans have nothing to back up their attacks.
Posted by: liberal meaning | September 7, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
There are so many lies about Obama supposedly hiding things. It’s a crock. Yes, Barack Hussein Obama is the son of a protestant Christian mother and a muslim economist from Kenya from whom he was estranged. He was born in Hawaii and, after living with his mom and a muslim stepfather in Jakarta, Indonesia for a time attending the Basuki school from 1969 to 1971.”This is a public school. We don’t focus on religion,” Hardi Priyono, deputy headmaster of the Basuki school, told Vause of CNN. “In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don’t give preferential treatment.” Vause reported he saw boys and girls dressed in neat school uniforms playing outside the school, while teachers were dressed in Western-style clothes. One of Obama’s Basuki classmates, Bandug Winadijanto, claims that not a lot has changed at the school since the two men were pupils.
“It’s not (an) Islamic school. It’s general,” Winadijanto said. “There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian. … So that’s a mixed school.” After his mother’s death from cancer, Barack was raised by his protestant, white grandparents in Hawaii.
Posted by: Pat Williams | September 7, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
XRAYeye,
Are you serious? If it was up to conservatives we’d be studying Creationism instead of Evolution. If it was up to conservatives we’d still believe the world is flat and the sun revolves around us, instead of the Earth revolving around the sun. Don’t make me laugh.
Posted by: liberal meaning | September 7, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Young Atheart
Please note China as well as most other countries of the world have a lower corporate tax rate than the US. US companies pay among the highest taxes in the world.
One company alone pays more than 50% of all US citizens!! And yes, it is an “evil” oil company that Dems are saying is not paying enough.
In these terrible last 8 years the amount of growth of the US economy exceeds the TOTAL economy of China.
And if you missed it our bad economy is still the best in the industrial world.
The Dem plan proposed by Obama is to tax the living daylights out of corporations and small businesses to create massive new government programs.
Do you really think this will work? Don’t you think companies will respond with layoffs and higher prices? That is if they don’t go out of business?
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
The liberal Obama believes in partial birth abortion.
The liberal Obama believes viable babies born through an abortion procedure should not be kept alive.
The liberal Obama sponsors a bill REQUIRING the US to reduce poverty by 25% not only in the US but for the ENTIRE WORLD !!!!
AND to accomplish this WITHIN 5 years!!!
But what the heck, you’ve got the money, right?
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Barack Obama is full of anger and resentment against white amerca. He says that certain whites cling to their religion and their guns. Sounds like stereotyping, doesn’t it? Americans will not elect this man.
Posted by: hush | September 7, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Dave in LV,
Between 2000 and 2004, the oil and gas industry poured more than $75 million into political campaigns, with 79 percent going to Republicans, money that may have influenced administration decisions opening protected public lands to drilling (CRP 2004).
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
As an Independent I think that the definitions of liberal vs. conservative have been distorted over the years. Liberalism used to mean “”do your own thing” and acceptance of all viewpoints. Today liberalism has taken on a different tone… particularly in the public school arena. I don’t care a bit what one family chooses to teach their own children with regards to morals, religion, sex, etc. that is their rights as parents. But to promote teaching moral values in the school is wrong. That is not the proper forum. It is the schools’ job to educate our youth. Teach them reading, writing, grammar, math, history and spelling. When they are adults … age 18… they can attend college and then have discourse about society’s mores. It is rather elitist for OBAMA to be so against school vouchers when he, himself did not attend public school because he was fortunate enough to have grandparents who could afford to send him to one of the most elite private schools in Hawaii. Today, liberal means “you better agree with me or else you are bad” and we need all of your money to have more government programs because the average american is too stupid to stand on their own two feet. How condescending. Wake up people… the more government programs they institute the worse the problem gets…. all these programs do is provide more government jobs for their supporters. in th
Posted by: Colleen | September 7, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
theTruth
What happened to Sarah?
Would you say she might have been attacked?
Virtually all the rumors have now been proven false.
So many have said women such at her should stay at home with 5 kids.
She (women) should stay at home with her Down child.
She has been unfaithful to her husband. No proof presented.
Who is creating these false rumors?
Where is the truth?
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Dave in LV,
Between 2000 and 2004, the oil and gas industry poured more than $75 million into political campaigns, with 79 percent going to Republicans, money that may have influenced administration decisions opening protected public lands to drilling (CRP 2004).
Posted by: oil politics | Sep 7, 2008 2:29:14 PM
So what? How much have teachers and other unions given and to whom? How much has the ACLU given and to whom?
Given the oil companies have been blocked from finding and developing vast oil reserves, billions of gallons of oil and trillions of cubic feet of gas, evidently they should have done more.
It would have meant lower prices for you and me.
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
It’s simple… all the school has to say is some believe in creationism and some believe in darwinism…. define each… and then move on. What point does it serve a child to dwell on either philosophy?
The school is not the place for teaching values aside from being polite and following the rules. Half the reason our schools are behind in education is the focus on forming the moral thread of society rather than educating our children. If indeed the democrats are in favor of acceptance of all viewpoints as they say they are.. then why are they so against school vouchers?
Posted by: Colleen | September 7, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Why does Obama call women ‘sweetie’?
Why does Obama pay women less than men?
The women working for McCain get equal pay.
Posted by: jewel | September 7, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Obama is a stealth Marxist/socialist. Obama is following his early mentor Saul Alinsky, who instructed his acolytes who included Hillary Rodham that the way to achieve power is by becoming ‘establishment.’ In other words, don’t follow buddy William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn and bomb American political and business targets. Instead, don a business suit and tie and act bourgeois. When power and trust is secured, you will be in a much better position to implement our ideas.
On Obama’s agenda if be becomes president is to implement a massive re-education program costing hundreds of billions. Called Universal Voluntary Youth Service (an oxymoron?), this massive program is right from the Alinsky textbook. It will cost as much as funding the US military (whose budgets Obama will decimate to pay for UVYS) with the goal to re-program the minds of impressionable youth, teaching them that the US is a racist, imperialistic, evil country bent on empire building.
The US voter is gradually awakening to this stealth Marxist posing as a benign middle of the road change advocate. Absent any resume, voters can only judge Obama by his associates and friends. Names like Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers, Reverends Wright and Pfleger and Chicago fraudster Tony Rezko and the Communist ACORN organization are the names most intimately associated with Obama.
US voters will not allow this radical black power advocate, Islam sympathizer and closet Marxist who despises all the US stands for near the White House.
Posted by: Robert | September 7, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
I may be wrong in this but I believe kids should be taught the difference between right and wrong.
And I believe this should be taught and reinforced in schools. This should be taught as well as compassion, self- sacrifice, helping others, the value of keeping an open mind and tolerence for others.
The teaching of moral equivalency where right and wrong don’t exist and only shades of grey do, is a bad influence upon our kids.
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Dave in LV,
A recent study by three federal agencies indicated that access is not a problem for the remaining available energy; in the five western basins that contain “most of the onshore natural gas and much of the oil under public ownership within the 48 contiguous states,” the study found that 88 percent of the natural gas and 85 percent of the oil is on land open to leasing (Energy Inventory 2003).
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Eight weeks is not long enough for the American people to get to know a complete stranger. (All the people who choose to believe the lies about Obama, my prayers are with you that the Lord opens your eyes. This is for those whose hearts are still open.) American Voters cannot in good conscience elect a BLIND DATE into the White House. This has nothing to do with gender, religion, motherhood, or even party. We’ve all known people who we thought were wonderful who turned out not to be. The only responsible vote is for Obama/Biden because the 8 weeks the Republicans gave the American people is their idea of a great joke on all of us. In 8 weeks, we’ll still be looking at Sarah Palin’s wrapping and have no idea what sort of ‘gift’ she is to us. Responsible Americans have only one choice now – Obama/Biden – real people you know.
Posted by: Former Hockey Mom | September 7, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Dave in lv,
Ahh yes, right and wrong Dave. Wrong meaning not like me.
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Looking at the title of this article – if we vote for a complete unknown to be Vice President of the United States, then our country will be the victim. Shame on the Republicans for setting up such a cynical ploy to keep people from talking about the real issues facing our country. I will NOT vote for a BLIND DATE for the White House. Our country deserves better – even from the Republican party.
Posted by: Former Hockey Mom | September 7, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Dave in lv,
Why don’t you read the rest of the article. We have plenty of land right here in the US we can drill on, Oil companies just aren’t using it. Check out this map.
Posted by: oil politics | Sep 7, 2008 2:51:59 PM
I’m sorry. Have they found any large oil reserves there yet? No? But you want them to drill anyway?
China received permission to drill for oil 60 miles off the coast of Florida by Cuba. We can’t go there because of artificial constraints by people like you. They can drill there. We can’t.
They’ll get any oil they find there. We won’t.
Why can’t drilling be done over the horizon? The amount of oil seepage due to oil rigs is very close to zero, zip, nada.
The environmental damage caused in the Gulf by oil rigs is what? Close to zero, zip, nada.
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Former Hockey Mom
If we vote for a total unknown where the people who know her best, both Republicans and Democrats, give her an 86% APPROVAL rating, that’s not bad.
When you know she has gone after the head of the Republican Party in her state and forced him to pay a $12,000 fine, not too bad. Not many would do that. Obama hasn’t.
When you know she has made more progress in getting a natural gas pipeline down to the US than any other governor in the last 30 years, in less than two years, impressive.
When you know she has turned down free federal money for a bridge to nowhere (Yes, I know she once was for it), it is also unusual and impressive.
We could do a lot worse.
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Dave in LV,
They can’t find the oil Huh? Like we can’t find Bin Laden either. Keep reading.
our net imports (imports minus exports) of oil have increased from nearly 4.3 million barrels per day in 1982 to 11.2 million barrels of oil per day in 2003. Perhaps more importantly, the percentage of our oil consumed that comes from foreign sources has doubled — from 28 percent in 1982 to 56 percent in 2003 (EIA Petroleum Review 2004).
4.3 to 11.2 barrels million barrels a day and now there’s just none left on land. And now there’s none left.
Natural Gas:
Natural gas net imports have increased from 882 billion cubic feet in 1982 to 3.2 trillion cubic feet in 2003. The percentage of natural gas that we consume which comes from foreign sources has tripled from about 4.9 percent in 1982
Are we seeing a trend here?
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Natural gas net imports have increased from 882 billion cubic feet in 1982 to 3.2 trillion cubic feet in 2003. The percentage of natural gas that we consume which comes from foreign sources has tripled from about 4.9 percent in 1982 to 14.7 percent in 2003 (EIA Natural Gas Review 2004). The EIA projects that dependence on foreign oil and gas will continue to grow rapidly over the next 20 years (EIA 2004a).
Even natural gas has tripled.
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Dave in lv,
Ahh yes, right and wrong Dave. Wrong meaning not like me.
Posted by: oil politics | Sep 7, 2008 2:57:01 PM
Don’t misunderstand. I can be wrong and I am open to changing my mind when the facts support it. I hope you can please present them.
I haven’t heard of any facts presented yet as to why not look? I have not seen any evidence of any environmental damage?
What’s the harm in looking?
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Even natural gas has tripled.
Posted by: oil politics | Sep 7, 2008 3:19:26 PM
I believe you have proved my point. We keep relying on others because you won’t let us look.
Posted by: Dave in lv | September 7, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Former Hockey Mom: Had you been doing your homework you would have known at least as far back as May/June 2008 that Sarah Palin was being considered for the Republican VP position. Also, remember that not since JFK has the United States elected anything other than a former governor to the presidency… that being said, any of the Republican Governors in the US would be looked at in a favorable light to be chosen as the VP candidate.
Also … keep in mind that both Obama and Biden are attorneys. The genesis of the word attorney derives from the french word aturne and latin tornare which put simply means “to turn”. The negative impact lawyers have had on our society is enormous. Do we really need two lawyers running the country???
With regards to Lobbyists… as I do not want to be accused of slandering anyone…for those Obama/Biden supporters… kindly explain Hunter Biden’s lobbyist activities and whether or not you seen any ethical issues related to same.
Posted by: Colleen | September 7, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Dave in LV,
Answer me this. We have plenty of Natural gas here in the US, why aren’t we using our own Natural Gas?
Same reason we’re not using our own oil, because it’s cheaper to import it.
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Of the 229 million acres offered for oil and gas development, only 30 million or 13 percent, have ever produced oil or gas.
13%? You mean over 87% of land offered has no oil?
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Dave in LV,
At a town hall meeting in Arkansas on August 3, 2004, Vice President Cheney told the community that domestic declines in production were driven by western land use restrictions: “In fact, our production is declining. In part, that’s because we made a decision as a country — you and I might not have agreed with it — but, basically, we’ve taken large chunks of the country and put it off limits to any kind of exploration or development… Large parts of the Rocky Mountain West are off limits.” But EWG’s analysis of government records shows that the U.S. government has, in fact, given the oil and gas industry broad access to public land for drilling, since 1982 offering for drilling 229 milion acres in 12 western states, an area greater than the combined size of Montana, Utah, and Wyoming.
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Dave it’s fairly simple to understand. It’s the law of supply and demand when it comes to oil. The oil from the Middle East is cheaper. The oil produced here is more expensive. There are more people buying the cheaper oil, than people buying the more expensive oil. The market for US oil in the US is already at max. That’s why the oil companies are not drilling more oil in the US. Although it’s there they don’t need it. So why do we want to allow drilling an Anwar? Just to give oil companies more power. The oil companies are scared to death that we are going to stop using their oil. So scared T Boone Pickens wants to switch to Natural Gas, so we become dependent on that for a while, instead of some other alternative, which would make a hell of lot more sense. The oil companies do not want to lose their investments in oil. Their scared and they should be.
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
McCain’s handlers whined about “sexist” criticism of Palin, like when it was pointed out that she lied about not supporting the “Bridge to Nowhere” and when her various scandals were exposed.
it’s the height of hypocrisy for them to whine about Obama playing the “victim” card just because he takes exception to the smear campaign the Republicons are running.
Posted by: Len | September 7, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Oil companies know they will still be able to sell the oil in Awar and offshore to the Chinese or export it overseas. They want to get in their and drill before it’s too late and Americans stop using their oil. It has nothing to do with lowering our gas prices. That’s not going to happen. If it’s going to lower our gas prices, than how come the American oil that is being offered is always more expensive to buy than the Middle Eastern oil at the pump. How come we don’t see cheaper oil from those gas stations? This whole Anwar offshore drilling thing has nothing to do with helping the American people.
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Jewel: “Why does Obama call women ‘sweetie’?”
Oh that’s a good one. But forces me to ask, why does McCain call women ‘trollope’ and a four-letter word I won’t write?
Posted by: Selina W | September 7, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Do you really think Bush (oil man, Iraq), Cheney (Halliburton), McCain (Bush), and Palin (Alaskan Oil) really want Americans to stop using oil?.
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Hmmm it’s gotten kind of quiet all of sudden. Is this starting to make any sense? Are you finally seeing the truth here? Are you going to continue to sell your country out to big corporations that export our jobs overseas? You know why no one is stopping illegal immigration? Corporations. Cheap labor. Were being sold out people and you are buying the BS. Your Republican leadership doesn’t give dam about you. They are their to serve their own self interests and you keep buying into their propaganda. Do you think anyone would allow oil companies to drill in Anwar unless the price of gas was so high? Who controls the price of gas? They need some BS reason to get you all to agree to drill there. Same BS reasons they gave you for getting into Iraq? They keep making this stuff up as they go and it’s getting ridiculous. We’ve lost your trust McCain, McCain even said it in his RNC speech. And you think you can trust him? Give me a break.
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
oil politics
Can we assume oil companies want to make money? If so, if it cost them $50/bl
to drill and sell it for today’s price of say, $120/bl why wouldn’t they? Their profit of $70/bl would be a nice chunk of change.
Therefor the oil companies in the US are drilling wherever they can legally do so. The same is true for natural gas companies.
Doesn’t that make sense?
I’m not sure if you learned your oil politics in the first grade, UC Berkeley or the Daily Kos. Either way, they are not true.
Posted by: davei n lv | September 7, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
To be continued some other time,
Best wishes to all
Posted by: davei n lv | September 7, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
davei n lv,
That’s the best you’ve got? LOL. Of course you are right. I totally agree with you. So explain to me again how drilling in Anwar is going to lower prices again? I just explained to you that we still have plenty of places on land to drill. Why are we not drilling? You say there is no oil. Not true. Hell we even have contracts in Iraq? There’s a hell of a lot more Oil there than in Anwar. Are we seeing oil prices drop? No. Oil prices are rising. Republican argument drilling an Anwar will increase world supply. Really? By how much less than 1% or something.
Rupert Murdock (Fox News) predicted $20 a barrell after the Iraq war: look at this chart. You think maybe if we get out of Iraq, oil prices may go back down? Hmmmm
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
If Congress approved development in 2008, it would take 10 years for oil production to commence, EIA said. With production starting, then, in 2018, EIA said the most likely scenario is that oil would peak at 780,000 barrels per day in 2027 and decline to 710,000 barrels per day in 2030. Currently, the United States consumes about 20 million barrels of oil per day.
EIA said its projection is that ANWR oil production would amount to 0.4 percent to 1.2 percent of total world oil consumption in 2030. The figure is low enough that OPEC could neutralize any price impact by decreasing supplies to match the additional production from Alaska, EIA noted
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
The U.S. is swirling down the pipes and it is because of the voters, not the potential leaders they have to choose between. Your country is broken in just about every imaginable way and collectively you don’t have a clue how to mend it. Think New Orleans writ even larger. Heckuva job, brownies.
Posted by: damnyouyankees | September 7, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
I know how. Get the numb nut, lame brains out of the White House and get out of Iraq. Forget about helping other Countries. You know how to help other countries, you strengthen the US. Their economies suffer when our economy suffers. You know why the Media keeps saying this is a historic election? Because they know if the idiot voters of this country keep voting a Republican in there, we are in huge trouble. I got to give the media a lot of credit, for trying not to be too biased, but it’s not bias, it’s simple common sense. They know what’s going on. They’re just not allowed to say much or they’ll seem too biased. Then they’ll come under attack from the Right. Refuse to give them interviews. Boycott their station. It’s all political. They use their power to manipulate what goes out over the TV. That’s what makes the internet so great. They can’t stop the truth from getting out anymore.
Posted by: oil politics | September 7, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
It’s been evident for many months that when Obama’s political fortunes are under duress, that he and his mentors instinctively resort to playing the victimization of racial bias in the hopes of inoculating him against criticism. However, there is an even greater issue of concern, Obama’s admitted heavy marijuana and cocaine use in high school and college may well have played a decisive role in the development of Obama’s inflated sense of his own importance; and, his pretentious demeanor. Heavy drug use can lead to hallucinations concerning ones status of grandiosity. Another clue is Obama’s frequent confused and unintelligible babblings whenever he is subjected to a public forum where he is devoid of a prepared text by his handlers to read from; which is the reason that Obama’s controllers will resist any attempt to have their candidate exposed to town-hall style forums.
Considering the fact that, if elected, Obama would be in proximity to the Nuclear Football 24/7, the American electorate has the right to know if Obama has any residual defect from his admittedly heavy former drug use. Obama’s inability to overcome his nicotine dependency suggests that he remains vunerable to such addictions. Obama has the responsibility to submit to an independent medical examination to ascertain the facts concerning his substance abuse.
Until such concerns are put to rest, this man, who has exhibited a profound lack of common-sense, should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office. Greg Neubeck
Posted by: Greg Neubeck | September 7, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Prez:
How do you like the polls being even steven for the two presidential candidates? Are you going to whine, or are your claws going to come out? Or, are you going to act like Annie Oakley with a six shooter? Or, does Obama feel the same way he felt about the alienated Hillary supporters, “They’ll get over it!” lolololol I am loving it!
Posted by: Mary Anne | September 7, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
First I would like comment on the “70 million acres of leased land”. Fist off, in order to even set foot on the land, leases must be purchased for so many years. THEN the energy companies can run seismographs for oil and gas. AFTER the lease has been purchased they find either NO oil, or so little that they would go into the hole extracting it. THIS IS THE 70 MILLION ACRES the democrats have been lambasting about. Cuba and China both are making plans to drill 50 miles of shore of florida in international waters and siphon our oil. (I’m drinking YOUR milkshake). Besides, Coca Colas profits percentage was more than ANY oil company in the world.
It is a PROVEN fact, we have more oil domestically than OPEC. FACT. Yes, it might take ten years, but do you think in 10 years it’s going to be any better? By 2015 china will be using as much oil as us, please tell me how it’s going to be better in 10 years. THE ONLY we can ever be energy dependent is with nuclear power to create hydrogen. There is no other way.
Back on topic, Obama has run out of race cards. You can only cry wolf so many times before people start ignoring your claims.
Posted by: Marcus | September 7, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla called Obama Unpatriotic 24 hours after this pience was written.
Posted by: Jason | September 8, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
From Investors Business Daily:
Start with Congress. It must keep Bush’s stimulative cuts in place. If not, it risks a recession for which Congress alone — a Democratic Congress — will be blamed.
Then there’s the Fed. With consumer prices in July up 5.6%, the highest since 1991, our recent inflation spurt is worrisome. But core inflation rose just 2.5% in July, below its level during President Clinton’s waning months in the White House.
And if oil prices keep dropping, overall inflation will fall fast. This means the Fed should be ready to cut rates, not raise them.
Finally, there’s oil. Drilling for oil would enhance our national security by denying petrotyrants from Moscow to Tehran to Caracas the funds they need to harass America and its allies.
But it would do even more. Drilling off our coasts, in Alaska’s National Wildlife Refuge, below the Arctic seas and in the Far West’s massive oil-shale deposits would add hundreds of billions of barrels to our reserves and push oil prices down. This would set off an economic boom and help pull the world out of the recession that falling global markets now seem to be signaling.
By drilling, we can strengthen our economy enough to develop future clean-energy alternatives. By cutting interest rates, we can help heal our financial system. And by keeping tax cuts in place, Americans’ purchasing power will be preserved.
Posted by: Search4Truth | September 9, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm