By Natalie Gewargis

Sep 29, 2008 5:38pm

McCain Camp Points Out Change in Obama’s Speech

The McCain campaign points out that in his original prepared remarks in a speech in Denver, Colo., today, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was going to say, "Democrats and Republicans in Washington have agreed on an emergency rescue plan that is our best and only way to prevent an economic catastrophe."

He changed this, though, to: "A package has not yet passed. And so one of the messages that I have to Congress is get this done. Democrats and Republicans step up to the plate."

I’m not quite certain that this packs the oomph of claiming credit for a bill’s imminent passage a day before it spectacularly fails, but there ya go.

– jpt

User Comments

But Jake, did you report on McCain claiming credit for passing a bill that did not pass?
Shouldn’t that be headline in the election campaign component of this disastrous vote?

Posted by: Maze | September 29, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Obama delivered on his part (over 60% of Dems voted for it). He assumed McCain would also deliver.

Posted by: David | September 29, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

40% of Democrats voted against this!
Nancy Pelosi, Obama, and all of their partisan friends doomed this bill from the very beginning. They don’t care about the slush funds to ACORN or how much the markets will crash, they’ll do anything to win.
Sick.

Posted by: John | September 29, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

There ya go indeed. There we all go as well.
If this weren’t so odious, the comedic value of this election would be an award winner.
“row row row your boat”

Posted by: len | September 29, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

This is going to backfire on Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, and Obama, et al.
Those people are part of the problem and are not showing any leadership on this at all.
Pelosi’s strut and cackle earlier today was a disgrace. She has nobody to bblame but herself.
The Democrats are the MAJORITY in Congress. Hello ???!!?!?!!? The MAJORITY!! And even the Great Obama could not rally enough votes of his own party as the MAJORITY to get te Bill passed.
The likes of Pelosi and Obama and Reid and Dodd and Frank are not leaders, they are obstacles to America’s future progress.

Posted by: USVet | September 29, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Why did 2/3 of republicans vote against this bill. Dont they realize they will plunge America into another Great Depression.

Posted by: krista | September 29, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

On a day of bad news there’ll always be good news at well, folks.
For instance, with regard to Katie Couric’s interview with Sarah Palin. We all like to laugh out loud, don’t we? Now, there’s report by Howie Kurtz that CBS is holding “two more responses on tape that will likely prove embarrassing.”
We don’t know yet about the content, but what Kurtz is referring to, according to a network insider briefed on the coverage plans, is Palin’s answers for Katie Couric’s “Vice Presidential Questions” series.
Hold your breath, folks. The questions and answers will air on Wednesday and Thursday, the source said.
That is going to be FUN!

Posted by: kurt | September 29, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

You Tube pulls a popular anti-Democrat video off the web
C. Edmund Wright
You Tube and Warner Music Group today pulled a highly popular video that very succinctly and clearly spelled out the roots of the current economic crisis.
The 9:59 video entitled “Burning Down the House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis” played four different songs under a fast moving video sequence that very clearly tied Democrats like Chris Dodd, Franklin Raines, Jim Johnson and Barack Obama to policies and corruption related to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It cleverly showed how the “affordable mortgage” programs sent an economic virus through the entire economy and showed Republican efforts to intervene and regulate being blocked.
For Obama and all congressional Democrats, it was a devastating video.
The video had almost a perfect viewer rating and had been viewed some 1.2 million times according to the You Tube counters. Sometime around 3:45 EDT the video disappeared with the banner saying “This Video is no longer available due to a copywrite claim by Warner Music Group.”
This sounds to me a lot like another front in this war for the country.
Thomas Lifson adds:
Even though I wonder if Warner is so vigilant about its music being used for videos advantageous to Democrats, there is a perfect right to object to appropriation of intellectual property. Music is a business, and if you use someone’s music you have to pay a royalty.
Simply re-post the video minus its music soundtrack, and see what happens. Ot use a soundtrack of music in the public domain. I suggest Vivaldi’s Four Seasons, which has a driving beat of its own in various places.
Update: Daniel J. Bianco writes in, poiting out that head of the Warner Music Group’s political contributions this year are going exclusively to Democrats.

Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | September 29, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Today just proved that “you can’t trust a republican”, they have no honor.

Posted by: JR | September 29, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Republicans are trying to plunge America into another recession. Only 65 voted for it while 133 voted against it.
It seems republicans dont care about what will happen ifthis bill doesnt pass.

Posted by: krista | September 29, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

60% Republican voted against the Bill…

Posted by: RA | September 29, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

The democrats are the majority party. Nancy Pelosi and Barack can not get their party to support this bill, then they turn around and blame the republicans? Wow!

Posted by: Liz-Ohio | September 29, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Time to bring out a Democratic back-bench alternative. I personally prefer the Swedish plan.

Posted by: Mike | September 29, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

McCain says his “suspension” was meant to help the country.
Critics say it was meant to help his campaign.
It now seems that he’s failed by either standard.

Posted by: reason | September 29, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

obama suspended his campaign and rushed back to washington to try to save the bill adn then failed
then he released a statement talking about how he was the leader and brought all parties together and thats why the bill passed
then an hour later it failed
then obama blamed.. oh wait
no wait, that was mccain im sorry
mccain released that email claiming he was a real leader that completely failed to lead.
no idea why the above statement is wrong when hes saying it looks like it will pass, and then when it didnt he said looks like it didnt pass
mccain camp should be worried about them claiming they made it all work

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 29, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Once again the McCain campaign points out the speck in Obama’s eye while ignoring the log in theirs.
One guy changes his prepared remarks, the other thumps his chest prematurely.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 29, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

94 Democrats voted AGAINST this bill. Looks like the Dems are imploding once again.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | September 29, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

How many times has McCain been asked to cease using music he hasn’t paid for?
A half dozen?

Posted by: Ryan C | September 29, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

It seems Republicans dont care if America plunges into recession. 133 members voted against the bill.
What a disgrace.

Posted by: keith | September 29, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Here’s an idea for the big O, get your butt back to Washington and take a stand, rally your troops. Quit kissing babies and do your job.

Posted by: samhiguchi | September 29, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

60% replicans voted against the bill. It seems they`d rather put politics first instead of America.

Posted by: keith | September 29, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

The republicans have shown their true colors today… especially McCentury.
McCentury thought he would be the white knight coming in to save the damsel, but his horse came up lame and his armor weighed him down.
He has never been and will never be a leader…. end of story.
The republicans can blame everyone but themselves but in the eyes of the American people, we know who caused this crises to spiral out of control.
No vote for the Unstable/Unable
We need real leaders

Posted by: l | September 29, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Looks like McCain is counting on the voting public being as dumb as his VP candidate.

Posted by: Ed | September 29, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

Yes, 40% of Democrats voted against it but 66% of Republicans did. This is a bill put in action by a Republican president and Republican Treasury appointee. It is not the Democrats that should be left holding the bag on this bill. Nobody can guarantee that it will work. Perhaps it is a bad bill. If so, it is now up to the Republicans to offer a viable alternative. Otherwise, or investments and retirement accounts will plummet.

Posted by: Michelle | September 29, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

let us be very clear
this was a republican bill
that everyone hated but in the face of destroying our nation
one party reached across the aisle to make work
one party acted exactly like they have for 8 years.
throw these bums out.

Posted by: dl | September 29, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

The common assumption is that Pelosi needed Republican votes for political cover, despite the fact she has always had sufficient Democrat votes for passage.
In reality, with 40% of her party voting “no,” she needed a majority of Republicans to vote in favor of the bill.
And, why even have a vote? The Republicans were supposed to simply let Madam Speaker blame Republicans for the financial crisis created and foster by Democrats and then line up in favor of the bill. What a joke, Madam Speaker, what a joke.

Posted by: Captain America | September 29, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

So, George W. Bush and his new-found friends in the Democrat party implore the House to pass bailout legislation.
Just give $700,000,000,000.00 of your children’s and grandchildren’s future tax money and we will magically fix the economy.
Don’t bother to take in account of the extremely pathetic job done in the past two years since we (the Democrats) have assumed the majority.
Just give us billions, and billions, and billions to give to Secretary Paulson to do with as he pleases.
The pleas come despite loud and vehement protest from constituents across the political spectrum.
As such, not enough members were willing to take the political risk just five weeks before an election.
Could it be the lack of leadership and hypocrisy found in Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat leaders–side with Bush and bash the Republicans?
Or, could it be the “wait and see” policy of Obama as he keeps tabs on what is happening–from a distance.
A true Obumbling maneuver.
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 29, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

How absurd…do the Republicans really think the American people are this stupid! Its an insult to everyone’s intellegence. Voters can see the numbers..the Republicans killed the deal.
Its very disheartening to see McCain gamble the good of the country to save his failing campaign! He gambled on Palin, who by all accounts isnt qualified & now this.
I hope the media continues its responsible positon on ensuring Palin answers their questions. These are dire times both on the domestic and international arena. Its no time to gamble on the possibility of Palin becoming President. And thankfully the media realizes it and is making it an issue!!!

Posted by: Dee | September 29, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

“Just give $700,000,000,000.00 of your children’s and grandchildren’s future tax money and we will magically fix the economy.”
As opposed to the $600,000,000,000.00 we have flushed down the Iraqi toilet.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 29, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Maybe this is a better way of going about it, congress votes no on a bush bill, the stock market dives down to 8500, many rich are now poor, and then we get a rescue plan that actually helps.
Those who need to be punished are, the president’s legacy is cast, and all those in congress who waffled, or took credit for something that they really had nothing to do with the final decision are voted out.

Posted by: Independent realist | September 29, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

What exactly is the piont here? If McCaine did not fail to bring the Republicans along Obama would not have had to change his speech. I guess he beleived that after suspending his campaign and parachuting in to save the day McCaine at the least would have brought his party along to support their republican President.
So it is the failed leadership of McCaine that is the problem here.

Posted by: mal | September 29, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Kind os a stretch if you ask me.
It’s Obama’s fault, but now is not the time for blame. But if it was the time for blame it is obama’s fault, but it realy isn’t the time for blame. But, I am just saying that if the time was right it I s Obama’s fault.
When do you think would be the time that I can say it is Obaba’s fault?

Posted by: Thinking | September 29, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

Did anyone actually read the bill? It is substantially different than the Paulson/Bush bill. First, it did not give $700 billion. It started with $200 or $250 billion. The additional funds would be authorized by the preseident and subject to congressional approval. Second, it put limits on executive payouts – which is what taxpayers rightfully demanded. Third, it had provisions for equity holding – which again, are what Americans wanted. It’s easy to find, easy to read, and every American should be looking at it. Especially on a day when the market dropped more in one day than it has in decades. Just wait until tomorrow. My own idiot congressman didn’t vote for it because he thinks the market economy can run itself. Isn’t that what it has been doing?

Posted by: mara | September 29, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Wow, McCain’s camp is getting desperate. Do they actually think that having a speech writen and then changed to refelct things that actually happened is going to make people question Obama? I would think that if he said that before the vote and took credit for getting the votes needed to pass the bill (like one of McCain’s campaign managers said on Sunday) it would be something to point out. It looks like a drowning campaign trying anything to take the other campaign down with them.

Posted by: Mack | September 29, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Let me see if I have this right the vote was lost because some Republican lawmakers got butt hurt over some words, then to show their anger they thought that screwing the COUNTRY FIRST was the right thing to do! I thought McCain had unified everyone.

Posted by: Kim | September 29, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

McCain specifically told your own colleague, George S., on This Week, yesterday, that he does NOT take credit for the bailout. Got it? He said that it was important that he was in Washington to do the job he was elected for, not to just call it in.
If you are going to report with bias, at least get the facts straight.

Posted by: liberati | September 29, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

The dems did not support the bill by themselves because they wanted it to be bipartisan. Yes the dems have has control of the house for 2 years but they have been unable to get anything done because of the “my way or the highway” republicans. Personally I am so sick of red vs blue. We are all Americans and we will all be affected by this. Bush and the right have so divided this country we can’t accomplish anything.

Posted by: fearforthefuture | September 29, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

I suspect after the drop in the Stock Market today we will have a bill. Do these Repubublicans realy want to go back to their rich districts and say to their voters that they are broke cause they stood up for America?

Posted by: Thinking | September 29, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

kurt, before you post, you might want to look up two bills: the 1999 deregulation bill and the 2000 credit default swap bill – both written by phil gramm and singed by clinton. those two men, more than anyone else, are to blame for this mess. its bipartisan. the question is though, why would john mccain have this idiot as co-chairman of his campaign and as his chief economic advisor?

Posted by: mara | September 29, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Right Ryan,
And, as opposed to the billions and billions more that Obama would have us flush down the toilet in Afghanistan…
More of the same…no change…
Kick’em all out and start over…
Anybody But Obama/Biden…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 29, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Mc Bush’s camp better look close to home before blaming someone else .The two republicans on this ballot are the biggest liars and turn abouts there is.Palin has been nothing but a liar from the get go…..

Posted by: indp voter | September 29, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Waaahh! Waaahhh! Pelosi hurt our feelings. We don’t care if you are losing your jobs, pensions or homes America…. We House Republicans got our feelings hurt!

Posted by: Fro the House GOP | September 29, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

liberati -
what Mccain said was that “if it would make everyone happy” , he would not take credit for the bailout.
Distinctly DIFFERENT Semantics…

Posted by: karen | September 29, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

liberati,
Jack is referring to a statement made by one of McCain’s campaign managers on Meet the Press yesterday where he was giving credit to McCain for getting the support needed to pass the bill.

Posted by: Mack | September 29, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

“What Senator McCain was able to do was to help bring all of the parties to the table, including the House Republicans, whose votes were needed to pass this” says Steve Schmidt, Mccain advisor and spokesperson on Meet The Press.

Posted by: Paige | September 29, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

So, according to Mara, starting out with $200,000,000,000.00 (give or take, $50,000,000,000.00) with the option to spend up to about $500,000,000,000.00(give or take $50,000,000,000.00 more) justifies a bailout.
Oh, and don’t forget that Secretary Paulson, former Wall Street CEO, will direct the allocation of funds…with the approval of President Bush and the same Congress…of course.
Limits on executive payouts?
There should be NO EXECUTIVE PAYOUTS!
NONE!
Equity holding?
In what?
A failed system and bad debt?
The bill is pathetic and so are those who support it.
Anybody But Obama…

Posted by: Jayhawk | September 29, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Obama never took a position on the bail out. This is not leadership. Obama could not rally his own party – to vote for the bailout. 95 Democrats voted against the measure. If Obama cannot lead his own party, and cannot take a stance and make a decision — why would anyone want him to be the President?!!

Posted by: Obama Can't Lead His Own Party | September 29, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

So, while all of this was going on, the shallow one maintains he’s contacted Paulson a few times. Of course, he’s nowhere to be seen trying to fix the mess. Hot air and BS – That’s Obama for you!

Posted by: dl | September 29, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Obama – abuser of special interest money and socialist. No wonder we have a problem with the presidential candidate has taken millions from the crooks. No wonder he goes nowhere near DC.

Posted by: dl | September 29, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

“And, as opposed to the billions and billions more that Obama would have us flush down the toilet in Afghanistan”
You consider going after the people who attacked us on 9/11 to be flushing money down the toilet?

Posted by: Ryan C | September 29, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

I just can’t believe the many and continued ways that McCain shows his stupidity and poor judgment. Quite unbelievable. Blaming Obama for the failure of the financial bailout package? Debate camp? Have you noticed that McCain not only can’t look Obama in the eye (graphically seen in the first presidential debate), but McCain can’t even look Palin in the eye? Why? Can he look forward leaders in the eye? I think not. He’s got major problems. McCain is not presidential at all. Palin is a joke. Economy is a disaster thanks to Bush/McCain/Cheney. Vote wisely to avoid four more years of the same ole McBush ****.

Posted by: Joan | September 29, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

“Obama never took a position on the bail out.”
That’s not true. He was supportive of the bailout but sought specific protections for taxpayers. He even irked some of his party when he went along with foreclosure review getting scrapped.
Of course McCain supported it then was against it, the supported it, then he saved it right before it blew up.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 29, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

This is truly amazing. The Republican Party leaders in the executive branch claim this bill must be passed. And quickly.
The majority of Republican members of the house vote against it.
And yet, this is the Democrats’ fault.
Didn’t McCain just say that he was going to suspend his campaign and refuse to debate until an agreement was met? Then he went to the debate anyway, spent Saturday night at a fancy dinner in DC rather than take part in negotiations, and today he was out campaigning just like Obama. And yet, still NO PLAN has been passed. Huh. Today he said this is not the time to place blame…and proceeded to blame the Democrats. Wow! What bipartisan leadership and sacrifice McCain has shown!!!
Yes, all of this Republican consternation (plan that comes from the executive office, voted down by majority of Republicans) is ALL the Democrats’ fault. Do these people ever take responsibility for ANYTHING?
I’m beginning to think that soon McCain is going to say that Obama is responsible for the Mets not making it to the post season. And for us going into Iraq.

Posted by: ethel08 | September 29, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

McCain accomplished….Nothing…Of course he would blame Obama…McCain said he was suspending his campaign and going to Washington until a bill was passed…McCain/Bush Failed.

Posted by: lanawonders | September 29, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

Obama Can’t Lead His Own Party
What about McCain? Obama got a majority. McCain well he didn’t even need a majority to pass the bailout he flip flopped support on.

Posted by: MM | September 29, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

To all those who sign: Everybody (is guilty) but Obama, let me tell you something. Obama is responsible too!!!
With his stupid attitude and all his criticism to McCain because he suspended his campaign made people feel as if this wasn’t important.
Obama IS to blame too!!
And if he wins the election, I will be glad to see the mess he will have to deal with. I will be happy to see him raise taxes and fail to all his promised programs. We deserve it for choosing wrong!

Posted by: Monica | September 29, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Require mortgage modifications, let the public put the money in the economy, wall street will fix itself by elimination. Main Street has suffered long enough.

Posted by: Jim Crocker | September 29, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

The Barack Obama bloggers, with their inane attacks on Republicans and hurling the charge “failed economic policies” (conspicuously vague, of course), doesn’t really give me reason to want to vote for their candidate.
The breathtaking leadership (lack of) displayed by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid at this crucial period certainly does not encourage me to vote for the guy, either.

Posted by: Scott | September 29, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Now how would McCain know what Obama’s prepared remarks are if he never gave them? Are they using the same speechwriter? Do they fax each other their speeches? I think we need less showboating and more actual suggestions for solving the problem.

Posted by: Catherine | September 29, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

Sen Obama:
Please stop talking. Do some for this country.

Posted by: alex | September 29, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

“Now how would McCain know what Obama’s prepared remarks are if he never gave them”
Catherine,
Prepare remarks are often passed out to the press before any speeches.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 29, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy, Dean, Soros, the KOS – just to name a few reasons why the government of the United States is on a ventilator.

Posted by: dl | September 29, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

Isn’t it amazing how they can all quote chapter and verse about Palin’s fumbles with Katie Couric, but no one says a word about Biden’s twice stated moronic remark about President Roosevelt going on TV in 1929, which any 5th grade American student would know better than to say. She might not know foreign policy, but she might be able to help Joe out on a little American history!!

Posted by: GoSarah | September 29, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

Republican’s new campaign plan:
“Barack Obama is actually John McCain!!!
And John McCain is actually Barack Obama!!!
So if you want Barack Obama to win, you should vote for John McCain!!!”
MAKES AS MUCH SENSE AS EVERY OTHER McCAIN STUNT SO FAR.
PALIN = LAUGHINGSTOCK
McCAIN = LAUGHINGSTOCK
REPUBLICAN PARTY = LAUGHINGSTOCK
ONLY IT’S NOT FUNNY ANYMORE.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 29, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Let’s put the blame for this mess where it belongs. Wall Street lobbied for less regulation saying it would police itself and the nation would benefit from less regulation. Lawmakers, on both sides, bought the snow job. Wall Street then proceeded to prey on people, stack boards of directors with their buddies, and pay the officers of the companies huge salaries and bonuses regardless of their actual results. Oil started to climb, the bottom fell out of the housing market and the ponzie scheme that Wall Street CEOs and boards built began to crumble. No one person was at fault. People who wanted the American dream, bought the same snow job that mortgage lenders were giving and got in over their heads. Lawmakers should know by now, self regulation only works if you have honest people who are not greedy and will actually look out for the company and not their pockets. I don’t think there is a plethora of those kinds of people on Wall Street.

Posted by: Catherine | September 29, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

“Isn’t it amazing how they can all quote chapter and verse about Palin’s fumbles with Katie Couric, but no one says a word about Biden’s twice stated moronic remark about President Roosevelt going on TV in 1929,”
When you give 3 interviews and screw up two of them people notice.
When you give 100 interviews and screw up a few of them, few people notice.
Note to Palin give more interviews and people will focus less on your gaffes in your previous interviews.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 29, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

ANOTHER BIG ANTI-PALIN RALLY IN ALASKA THIS SATURDAY!!!
There was another big anti-Palin, anti-troopergate rally in Alaska this weekend. They say it was even bigger than the last one!!
After all that has happened, Alaskan’s can’t stand her either!
Lot of pictures and I just loved the homemade signs! “No more lies Palinoccio” and “Palin Humiliating Alaska” and lots more!!
She is even a BIG JOKE in her own state of Alaska! When this is all done in November, she won’t be able to get elected Dogcatcher in Wassilla!!

Posted by: Davis | September 29, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

President Bush is the greatest president in the universe. Miss Pelosi is the evil one.

Posted by: Moe | September 29, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Ok DEMS, PLEASE name one THING,Just One Thing that Obama has Taken a Stand on, and that Stand has been the Same all along???, Think about it, he is a SHAM, a Huge Fraud, the kind of person who always says- We will see where the Wind Blows, then I will make a Decision, WHAT A FRAUD!!.

Posted by: Aden | September 29, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

You’re right Davis. Palin will be history when she goes back to Alaska. She won’t be able to hide anymore. Back to fishing and moose hunting. She will certainly enjoy life more!

Posted by: Joan | September 29, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

you’re correct Maze
Thanks Jake, this just proves Obama has been staying in contact, out of photo opps to work on bipartisan package & can adjust on his feet.
So is McFalin going to suspend his campaign (actually someone should ask what really stopped) for another diversion from the fact that he failed.

Posted by: watching | September 29, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

Aden, Obama has taken unwavering stands on the following, to name a few:
1) Health care reform
2) Protecting the interests of the middle class in all respects
3) Taxing the rich (over $250,000/year)
4) Getting us out of the horrible Iraq war.
5) Dedicated his life to fighting for the little guy- it’s the liberal way.

Posted by: Joan | September 29, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Obama is running on his ability to effect bipartisan consensus. This would be an excellent time for him to demonstrate that ability.

Posted by: DeniseB | September 29, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Aden, your turn- what has McCain taken an unwavering stand on. Be careful with your answers, because he’s the biggest flip flopper ever. Maverick? Supported Bush 90% of the time? Lobbiest support- he’s the worst ever. War? He’s been allover the place. Reducing taxes? He was against Bush’s tax breaks for the rich before he was for it. Drilling for oil? He was against it forever unitl he started running for president. Bail out program? Who knows? He was noncommittal before he was committal. Eight homes, thirteen cars, a big ranch like Bush. He’s consistently been a hothead and has feew friends in Congress. Even diehard republicans don’t trust him.

Posted by: Joan | September 29, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

“Ok DEMS, PLEASE name one THING,Just One Thing that Obama has Taken a Stand on, and that Stand has been the Same all along??”
1) Transparency in gov’t.
2) The central front in the War on Terror is Afghanistan.
3) The Iraq War was the wrong war and we should be setting a timetable for the removal of our troops.
4) The health care system needs reforming and that it will need a combination of public and private endeavors.
5) That America needs to lead the revolution of alternative fuels and the government should do all they can to foster that.
Want anymore?

Posted by: Ryan C | September 29, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

The Republicans can dance all they want and blame Pelosi…..It was the republican Presidency…his guys who brought the so called crisis to the hill. It was his 3 page bill that had to be reworked and both sides were in on the compromise. 50/50 so no one would take a hit in the upcoming election. Let the chips fall where they may…it could be very telling if nothing happens except the market will correct itself.Maybe we’re not so dumb afterall.We’ll see.

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 29, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

ONE CANDIDATE BEEN THERE. DID THAT. DONE THAT.HE HAS GOT IT.
THE OTHER CANDIDATE IS SMART, PROGRAMED, AND A STUDENT.

Posted by: JIMMIE W BECK | September 29, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Hello everyone, It is not just a Democratic or Republican Issue it is an American issue and everyone should put partisan politics aside and resolve the issue. What ever happened to survival of the fittest?

Posted by: Mary Anderson | September 29, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Jake, finally some MCain news since the MSM headlines scream of the 2nd coming so much I forgot John was around.

Posted by: Bill | September 29, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Pretty much the only thing McCain proved with this whole failing bailout mess is that he can be even more hypocritical than he has been in the past few months, only in a much smaller space of time. After the failure, he said it was no time to point figures–next thing, he places the full blame on Barack and the Dems. He accuses Dems of being too partisan when he himself has dragged partisanship, and the entire election, into the bailout bill.

Posted by: McCainLIES | September 29, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Brilliant comment on the bail out by Palin
“That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with, we’re ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh — it’s got to be all about job creation too. Shoring up our economy, and putting it back on the right track. So healthcare reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade, we’ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, um, scary thing, but 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.”
and another one on education:
“I personally believe that, U.S. Americans are unable to do so, because some… people out there in our nation that don’t have maps, and I believe that our education, like such, as in South Africa and Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should… our education over here in the U.S., should help the U.S., er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future.., for our…”

Posted by: ray reyns | September 29, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

To the people who want to know what Obama has taken a stand on. Let’s go back to the BASICS!
How about taking an OATH to honor and love till DEATH do us part? Well Obama has been married for 19 YEARS to one woman…they have 2 children.
Can McCain please explain how he met his first wife who was at that time married, and then ditched her to marry a younger richer woman?

Posted by: Z | September 29, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Decide in haste, suffer in leisure. I am happy that this did not pass. There was too much not known. It has been quite difficult to get a handle on all of this drama (most of us have other jobs that don’t fixate around DC or WS)….however, rushing through the largest taxpayer funding of risk is not in our best interest. The market will do fine – yes, a few will hurt, but that’s what risk is all about – you want high reward, you get high risk. You must have the stomach for the downside. Otherwise, you should be more conservative in your financial dealings. As for Pelosi – ah well, some people just love to kick someone when they are down – it’s hilarious how ‘mean-spirited’ that was and certainly didn’t show any ‘bi-partisan team spirit.’ She will reap what she has sown.

Posted by: Cultural Amnesia | September 29, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

“Isn’t it amazing how they can all quote chapter and verse about Palin’s fumbles with Katie Couric, but no one says a word about Biden’s twice stated moronic remark about President Roosevelt going on TV in 1929,”
Biden goofed on something from 80 YEARS AGO!!!!
Palin doesn’t know what’s going on TODAY!!!!

Posted by: JoeFromQC | September 29, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

“Isn’t it amazing how they can all quote chapter and verse about Palin’s fumbles with Katie Couric, but no one says a word about Biden’s twice stated moronic remark about President Roosevelt going on TV in 1929,”
—————–
When Palin was asked about the Great Depression, she recommended Prosac.

Posted by: Lower the bar a little more | September 29, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

When you give 3 interviews and screw up two of them people notice.
When you give 100 interviews and screw up a few of them, few people notice.
CORRECTION:
PALIN DID 2 INTERVIEWS AND AN INFOMERCIAL.

Posted by: Hannity? Uh, right | September 29, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm

IT IS SIMPLE MCCAIN AND HIS PEOPLE ARE STUPID.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | September 29, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

I want a VP who is smarter than I am and I never graduated from high school. Sarah Palin needs grammar lessons and public speaking lessons to begin with.

Posted by: Mary | September 29, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Obama is just a Clown and Opportunist.
He never did something of value rather than talk like a street charlatan.
I feel sorry for those democrats believing in this clown.

Posted by: picogg | September 29, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Mr. Mccain has to be the most negative campaigner in the history of the planet! He demonstrates little leadership- only hateful, spiteful, attack laced commentary- not very christian in character at all- if the best he can do is continually attack the Democratic nominee for President, he does not stand a chance. What an angry old man!

Posted by: Ron Sampson | September 29, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

>>>Obama is just a Clown and Opportunist.
>>>He never did something of value rather than talk like a street charlatan.
THANK YOU for being a stereotypical right winger slinging mud with no substance. Care to share what you think is charlatanesque??
>>>I feel sorry for those democrats believing in this clown.
And I feel for anyone that can’t see the McCain/Palin ticket for the SAD disaster it is, instead of the strength it should be. McCain 0f 2000 would backhand McCain of 2008.

Posted by: JoeFromQC | September 29, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Oh, for God’s sake. He changed his speech. Big deal. Speeches are written in advance and are subject to changes. I’m sure like the rest of us Obama had hopes for a solution by now. But I can bet the reason it didn’t pass is because the republicans want to screw the middle class yet again.

Posted by: Bea | September 29, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

@ John
The original bill provided that 20% of profits from sold assets would go to the Housing Trust Fund and the Capital Magnet Fund.
Conservatives are stretching the truth when they say that 20% would go to ACORN.
AND, that provision was removed from the bill. The final bill provided that 100% of profits would go back into the general fund of the Treasury. Zero profits to the HTF.
There was no reason to vote NO on the bill except to save their seats in the election. And that is the case for members of both parties in the House who voted NO on the bill.

Posted by: cincyr | September 29, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

I’m sorry, but when Warren (mega-bucks) Buffett thinks its the right thing to do, then so do I. This is a man that has made billions of dollars so he is not an economic fool. Personally I am not happy to bail them out when I am going deeper into debt all the time but gosh, we have to do something.

Posted by: KKH | September 29, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Heck, just checked my 401K and I have already lost $23,000 dollars in the last week alone, please – someone do something to stablize the markets!

Posted by: KKH | September 29, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

McCain bundlers from Wall Street have raised $11.4 for his campaign (Securities and Investment), not zero as someone from Mars reported in an earlier post. Bundlers in the insurance (remember AIG?), finance and real estate (as in Freddie and Fannie) have raised more than $30 million for John McCain. Not individuals. Bundlers. These three sectors of the economy reepresent his largest contributions by far. Maybe Rick Davis is worth all that money. He has 70 bundlers from finance alone – including William Strong from Morgan Stanley ($500,000), Jon Thain from Merril Lynch ($500,000), Patrick Durkin from Credite Suisse (friend of Phil’s), $100,000 from one bundler at Lehman and $50,000 from another, $100,000 from Wachovia, and $100,000 from Goldman Sachs. Obama gets plenty of money as well – not as much as McCain – but to assert that McCain gets zero from the finance industry is pure fantasy. Wall Street has always hedged its bets when it comes to Presidential candiates – and always leaned slightly red.

Posted by: mara | September 29, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

KKH – I hear you – even if nobody else does. And I’m not greedy or stupid or a hedge fund investor. It is a bloodbath – and I honestly don’t get people who pretend that it is not. I guess they are very, very rich and have special financial advisors.

Posted by: mara | September 29, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Jimmie Beck – You sure are right. McCain has been there, done that. Remember Keating 5? And Cindy McCain and all the lost receipts? McCain has direct experience with corrupt financial tranactions.

Posted by: mara | September 29, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Scott, I hate to break it to you – but this was George Bush’s baby. He worked it out with Paulson. It was not a Democratic bill. They agreed to work on it in a bipartisan way – but this economy belongs to George Bush – and so does the bailout proposition. Where is George hiding? And while we’re looking? Where is Phil Gramm hiding? Does he still this this is all in our heads?

Posted by: mara | September 29, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

Well, Jayhawk, Don’t attack me – write your Republican President – it’s his bill. John McCain finally found a backbone and supported it too – so you better write him – or you could call and scream.

Posted by: mara | September 29, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

I’m not a political strategist, but if I were McCain I would find it difficult to simultainiously blame Obama for the bill’s failure, while pointing out he thought it was going to pass. This would be doubley so if I (McCain) hadn’t mucked up the bills passage in the first place.

Posted by: Eric in NJ | September 29, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Wow, Obama’s workers at the “fight the smears” campaign headquarters are working overtime tonight.
You people have absolutely no knowledge about history or political science do you? Or maybe you do and you’re afraid the truth will come out.
Yeah, lay all this on the Republicans to keep people from finding out that the Democrats, since Jimmy Carter, have caused this financial mess we are in.

Posted by: S Adams | September 29, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Far be it for me to stick up for Carter, but we keep hearing BS about the CRA (community reinvestment act) being at the root of this. The problem is that that simply isn’t true. The CRA was established to eliminate redlining, where people in low-income areas were kept from loans. The CRA did not mandate that banks make loans to people with poor credit, but simply prevented the denial of loans to credit worthy applicants based on their neighborhood (as a proxy for racial discrimination).
The problem here isn’t subprime mortgages (because we are seeing delinquencies on Prime and Alt-A accelerating faster than sub-prime). The problem is that the values of the underlying assets are worth far less than the mortgages. Remind me again which party was it that pushed the “ownership society” model?

Posted by: Eric in NJ | September 30, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Our House of Representatives listened to over 200 of America’s top economists and smart people of this country. They did what was right not what was fast and convenient and prosperous to the very rich. The fact that the House of Representatives rejected the bail out is awesome! Here is why. The bill was a just a band-aid that still benefitted the very rich and not the people. It was not a solution to the cause of the problem. This bill would only have postponed the inevitable to just after the next President is sworn in on Jan. 29, 2009. There are real solutions to the cause of the problems of the credit crises not even considered in this terrible fast paced 700 Billion dollar extortion bail out bill for the extremely rich people of this country and around the world.
In January 2009 the 7 trillion dollars in bad mortgage loans that the banks have reported will still be unpaid. Who knows how many trillion dollars of bad mortgage debt have not been reported by the banks. 700 billion dollars won’t even come close to paying for all of this debt. Financial melt down is inevitable. Let it happen now so true recovery can begin. Bush and his Cronies did their best to ram this 700 billion dollar pay off to the rich for making this mess down our throats.
Here is some interesting info. Bush and Chaney have recently purchased homes in foreign counties to for a speedy get away to live in after their terms are over in Jan. 2009. They didn’t want this economy to blow up on them while they were still in office. They didn’t want the blame for their very real immoral, unethical and most likely illegal actions. Yeah they got both.
One last fleecing of the American people was halted by our smart members of the House of Representatives who listened to the people and over 200 of America’s top economists. We can truly thank them for listening to us.
It’s time for millions of people to march on Washington DC peacefully in protest. The puppets of congress of the extremely rich are going attempt to pass this fraudulent bill again. “The only thing to fear is fear itself.” (President Franklin D. Roosevelt Democrat) Make the members of the House of Representatives and the members of the Senate know they were hired by all of us who voted for them not just a few very rich people. Make them know we are their bosses not a few rich families. We the People: Demand REAL SOLUTIONS FOR ALL PEOPLE not for just a very few extremely rich people!

Posted by: Bob4USA | September 30, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

The Banks of the United States have reported 7 Trillion Dollars in bad mortgage debt. Let me ask all you geniuses out there what good is it going to do to have the tax payers buy 700 Billion Dollars of this 7 Trillion Dollar debt? Who knows how much more debt the banks and financial institutions have not been reported. Spending this 700 Billion Dollars on this debt is like throwing kerosene, dynamite and gasoline on a wild fire storm. It only makes the fire hotter and more dangerous and destroys those who fueled the fire just like giving the extremely rich this 700 billion dollars. The tax payers debt, the national debt will just go up and prolong the tax payers suffering, starving, and wreak havoc on their physical, mental and financial health.

Posted by: Bob4USA | September 30, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

“but there ya go”? Has our intrepid blogger assumed the Palin dialect?

Posted by: jcarob | September 30, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

Not to change the subject, but the Rezko thing is back on the burner, owing to Mr. Rezko’s recent enlightenment that prison ain’t so nice and maybe some talking to a grand jury is just the ticket to get out of the hell hole he is in. Stay tuned.

Posted by: jcarob | September 30, 2008, 2:41 am 2:41 am

The Financial Meltdown of the USA = ALL BUSH and THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’S FAULT, PERIOD. They caused this, ALL of it!!

Posted by: Democrats 08 | September 30, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am

Astute Sarah on the bailout gives confidence and trust to Republican Wisdom:
“That’s why I say I, like every American I’m speaking with, we’re all about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh — it’s got to be all about job creation too. Shoring up our economy, and putting it back on the right track. So healthcare reform and reducing taxes and reigning in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade, we’ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, um, scary thing, but 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.”

Posted by: ray reyns | September 30, 2008, 6:14 am 6:14 am

Pelosi told any Dem’s that needed to no to save their seats in the House to do so. Her “girl friends”, Congresswomen “the Sanchez Sisters” voted no. So did most of the Democratic Chairpersons of the various commitees.
Democrats — bunch of hot air and posturing.

Posted by: susie | September 30, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am

How about a 100% tax on incomes above $2M for the executives and board members of companies benefiting from this bailout? Then they’ll have to decide if they really need the money after all.

Posted by: bud | September 30, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

“Not to change the subject, but the Rezko thing is back on the burner, owing to Mr. Rezko’s recent enlightenment that prison ain’t so nice and maybe some talking to a grand jury is just the ticket to get out of the hell hole he is in. Stay tuned.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 30, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

What happened to the old saying “Sticks and Stones may hurt my bones but words will never hurt me”?
There has been words hurled at both of these men but I haven’t heard anything concrete about what they are going to do about this mess we are in.
We all know what McCain did with his first wife but there are a lot of men out there that have done a some stupid things in their life and that is a fact but they are not up for President today maybe they will be there down the road.
What I am concerned about is now what are these men going to do about the now.
What scares me about Obama he has no
background in running anything except his mouth. I would like to see one time that both of these men to make a speech with out printed words in front of them.
Shouldn’t they know what they are going to do by now?

Posted by: Carol | September 30, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

The Democrats and the media are doing a good job of blaming this entire mess on the Republicans. Unfortunately, the Democrats are just as much to blame though from the opposite end of the problem. (Republicans – Wall Street; Democrats – Bad Risk Loans).
That wouldn’t matter except that we’re getting ready to elect leaders, and Americans are being persuaded aka manipulated into voting Democrat. If you think things are in bad shape now, just wait!

Posted by: marylou | September 30, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Why in the hell are the Dem’s giving credit to Obama for the passing of the 700B bailout? This is a guy who has been in the Senate for a short time and he is telling other people who have been there for (maybe to long) 15, 20 30
years, what to do? yea right. If it does not work does he get credit for that as well? Wake up America! Stop with
the Idol stuff, it is making you blind.
This has been a problem for a long time
but no one saw it coming, Oh Im sorry it was Obama who did so he decided to run for President. Timing is everything ,and remember this is an election year, no one wants to get the boot, so please America do the home work and wake up, this is a Democrat led
Congress.

Posted by: Hal | October 3, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

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