McCain, Obama ‘Confident’ That Bail Out Deal Will Be Made

Why is it every time John McCain does something vile he blames Obama not doing town hall meetings with him.
What I’ve taken away from this little episode is that John McCain is willing to put the United States economy in jeopardy for a photo-op when the political winds don’t blow his way. To my mind, that’s traitorous.

McCain the cynic.
He basically blew up the negotiations, and now he is at home, enjoying the success of the campaign’s distraction from Rick Davis’s lobbyist firm scandal and Palin’s horrendously empty headed interview with Katie Couric.
He’s no second Bush. He’s worse.

The irony, if you can call it that, is that McCain stunt may get him some press, but it makes the possibility of a deal in the short term increasingly unlikely.
The fact that the GOP would walk into the meeting with the president, after a day of bipartisan progress, with an entirely new, campaign-ready “conservative alternative” proves that this was a political stunt.
It may be smart, it may be savvy, but it surely is the opposite of the “Country First” argument McCain has been making these last few months.

McCain is coming up with every excuse in the book to prevent Palin from having to be critically eximined by the people of the US and almost as many excuses so that he won’t either.

Palin is appointed by GOD and once she gets in that White House this country will become a great nation again, no more gays, no more liberals, its disgusting right now to the morally correct. This financial mess was brought upon us by the liberals and it is Gods punishment for disobeying his word.

I think anyone who votes for McCain-Palin is an idiot — and this goes double if you’re a woman.

McCain why do you keep insisting about the town hall debates. NO WAY NO HOW is Obama going to have town hall meetings with you.
Release Palin from prison so she could have the priviledge of having town hall meetings with Biden too. You BARELY released her for a few minutes to attend an interview with Ms. Couric on CBS and she did an AWFUL job. WHAT A SHAME MCCAIN!!

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Meghan,
you are stupid!! you do not seem to know anything about what is going on with the day-to-day politics or the election in whole.
You need to do a lot of catching up on news.

Poor Obama. Bill doesn’t hate McCain and it’s hurting Obama. Boo-hoo. It is frightening how many people think the world is all about Obama.
You want to talk about Rick Davis, but you don’t want to talk about Johnson or Ramekin or the fact that the democrats created this mess (who else would want to house individuals who can’t really afford a house?). At least be honest about your hypocrisy.

Now that John McCain has miraculously fixed our economy, I wish he would take care of Tom Brady’s knee.

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Senate Majority Leader Reid ccompletely dismissed McCain’s role in the White House meeting, saying that he spoke last, said nothing important and had little to do with the negotiations.
“Anyone in that meeting who tried to understand what John McCain said in that meeting, couldn’t” understand whether he supported the deal, Reid said, according to a clip aired on MSNBC. “He didn’t say anything substantive. … He was the last person to talk in that meeting.”
McCain: thanks but no thanks.

HEARD ON THE STREETS OF STARKE, FLORIDA, SEPTEMBER 2008
Wherein another dumb citizen expresses amazement at Washington’s ability to call him stupid and convince him they did him a favor.
A great swindle has been perpetrated upon me and my fellow Americans for whom people like John McCain endured so much in defense of our principles. It has to do with how the $4500 suits on Wall street conducted our nation’s business while tricking us into believing they were making “the American dream” available to large numbers of us who, without their help, would never get the chance to participate in that dream. They told us they could handle things to everyone’s benefit. Don’t worry about how you’ll be called upon to pay us back at usury rates in just a couple of years. Don’t worry about the fact that we (the $4500 suits) are running banks that routinely violate sound lending principles (no job, don’t fret, we trust you). So you can’t afford a mortgage now; in a year you can sell the place at a profit, pay us back and do it all over again. And don’t worry about us holding your junk paper (mortgage you can’t pay); we’ll just sell it to Freddy or Fannie and let then worry about it. They’re the government; they’ll cover everything. We’ll have our money and you’ll have a house you can sell some time next year at a profit as the housing market goes ever upward without limit. And don’t worry about bad problems entering our system. Market forces will handle everything. And, for Heaven’s sake, don’t let the government interfere with their (dirty word coming, look away)… regulation. Now, we all know that a regulatory system is currently in place, put there as a result of past Wall Street excesses, but we can get around all that. It’s easy. We just appoint some laissez-faire (that’s French for hands off) types to run the regulatory agencies. When problems come up, we (the $4500 suits) can count on them to do absolutely nothing. They’ll let the Market work. They’ll let Market Forces do their (really our) thing. We appoint (through our surrogate in Washington) guys like Paulson (to Treasury), Cox (to the SEC) and Lockhart ( to FHFA to regulate Freddie and Fannie)…is that Mo, Larry and Curley or The Three Blind Mice? Anyway, these guys could be counted upon to just sit back and fwarb ( that’s my term for FWRB; fiddle while Rome burns ). Notwithstanding that these guys are some of the best fwarbers in Washington, don’t forget: Paulson is one of ours ($4500 suits) and he’ll do the right thing if the going gets rough…like, maybe he could shove a little “liquidity” our way if we need it; maybe even a lot of “liquidity”. And Hank knows how to keep things quiet. He’s been doing that for years. If he has to send a little “liquidity” our way, he’ll keep quiet about what we do with it. And for those of us ($4500 suits) who get burned a little; don’t worry. He’ll slip in a few golden parachutes just like he got after leaving Goldman. And don’t underestimate his ability to mimic his boss, i.e., scare the hell out of everyone. But, I digress. Earlier, I noted that a great swindle has been perpetrated upon me and my fellow Americans for whom people like John McCain endured so much in defense of our principles. That swindle is simply this: that guy, Paulson, is being passed off as a HERO and Cox and Lockhart as smheros. (Smaller, minor heros). Doncha jus luv it ?

Obama will get O-whupped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

McCain Runs And Hides From His Past:
John McCain running from the debate with Barack Obama is unacceptable, and COWARDICE! There are over 350 members of congress to deal with the US economic collapse. And even more capital hill aids, advisers, and experts to deal with the economic catastrophe created by the corrupt Bush McCain presidency and the past republican controlled congress.
Every American, and TRUE! patriot needs to demand that John McCain debate Barack Obama and tell the American people how he is going to fix this economic catastrophe that he (John McCain), Bush, and the past Republican controlled congress created.
Contact the news media. Your local papers. And demand that they hold John McCain accountable to debate Barack Obama. Contact all your friends and ask them to do the same. Call your senators, and congressmen and tell them that you expect “Let Them Eat Cake” John McCain to debate Barack Obama on this economic catastrophe that John McCain and “Let Them Eat Cake” BUSH! created.
It’s time to get ANGRY! America. Tell John McCain you want answers, and you want those answers NOW!
He can run. But he cant hide anymore.
What ever congress does to try and fix our stunning economic catastrophe needs to be done very carefully. Congress needs to take their time, and be sure of what they are doing. Whatever is done needs to be sharply focused at helping, and protecting the best interest of the ordinary Americans. In particular the vast American middle class. 700 billion dollars is a lot of the peoples money to spend to bail out a bunch of corrupt Bush loan sharks.
My fellow human beings, just as I warned you ahead of this catastrophic economic meltdown, I must now warn you that what is a head has the potential to be even more catastrophic than what we are going through now. The worlds geopolitical landscape has been booby trapped by the Bush McCain administration and their republican allies in congress. These booby traps are poised to spring at any time.
Fortunately the Worlds Nations have been blest with many excellent leaders (except the US) who have been careful, wise, strong, and self-restrained in dealing with the provocations, and antagonism’s of the Bush, McCain administration.
Barack Obama and the democrats are your best hope now. Tell your family, friends, and everyone you know to support them as best you can, and vote for them like your life, and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. Because it does. You will not survive 4 more years of Bush McCain.
JACK SMITH – WORKING CLASS…

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Wow, the amount of hate in the posts of
the Obama supporters is incredible. Do you guys really want to win that bad? Remember we are all Americans here.

Saying that John McCain is an exact clone of George Bush, is fundamentally wrong !

Hey democrats if you don’t like this country, LEAVE!

PHILLIPS,
Why should I leave, I’m here making it better. If you don’t like what I’m doing you can leave.

I think it’s unlikely that either side will meet each other now, in this political climate and because McCain interjected himself, the fallout will have much of his name on it.
Any other intelligent ideas on the situation?

Only an idiot thinks that working on this bill is not more important than a debate. Do you hear me, Obamabots? Only an idiot. Obama is an idiot for not having the sense and the morals to get his butt back to Washington to work on this most important bill and his supporters trying to justify Obama not being there are even dumber. Regardless, of what McCain did or his reasons for it———-Obama should have wanted and gone back to Washington without being quilted into it. This bill will affect all of us in the US and around the world for the next 20 years minimum. Do you idiots understand yet?

JONES like to call people names.
That’s productive.
What do you think JONES?
How will this play out over the week?

McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five
The story of “the Keating Five” has become a scandal rivaling Teapot Dome and Watergate
By Tom Fitzpatrick
Published on November 29, 1989
You’re John McCain, a fallen hero who wanted to become president so desperately that you sold yourself to Charlie Keating, the wealthy con man who bears such an incredible resemblance to The Joker. Obviously, Keating thought you could make it to the White House, too.
He poured $112,000 into your political campaigns. He became your friend. He threw fund raisers in your honor. He even made a sweet shopping-center investment deal for your wife, Cindy. Your father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was cut in on the deal, too.
Nothing was too good for you. Why not? Keating saw you as a prime investment that would pay off in the future.
So he flew you and your family around the country in his private jets. Time after time, he put you up for serene, private vacations at his vast, palatial spa in the Bahamas. All of this was so grand. You were protected from what Thomas Hardy refers to as “the madding crowd.” It was almost as though you were already staying at a presidential retreat.
Like the old song, that now seems “Long ago and far away.”
Since Keating’s collapse, you find yourself doing obscene things to save yourself from the Senate Ethics Committee’s investigation. As a matter of course, you engage in backbiting behavior that will turn you into an outcast in the Senate if you do survive.
They say that if you put five lobsters into a pot and give them a chance to escape, none will be able to do so before you light the fire. Each time a lobster tries to climb over the top, his fellow lobsters will pull him back down. It is the way of lobsters and threatened United States senators.
And, of course, that’s the way it is with the Keating Five. You are all battling to save your own hides. So you, McCain, leak to reporters about who did Keating’s bidding in pressuring federal regulators to change the rules for Lincoln Savings and Loan.
When the reporters fail to print your tips quickly enough–as in the case of your tip on Michigan Senator Donald Riegle–you call them back and remind them how important it is to get that information in the newspapers.
The story of “the Keating Five” has become a scandal rivaling Teapot Dome and Watergate. The outcome will be decided, not in a courtroom, but probably on national television.
Those who survive will be the sociopaths who can tell a lie with the most sincere, straight face. You are especially adept at this.
Last Friday night, on The John McLaughlin Show, which features well-known Washington journalists, the subject of the Keating Five was discussed. Panelist Jack Germond suggested that three of the Keating Five were probably already through in politics.
So you spend your days desperately trying to make sure you will be one of the survivors. You keep volunteering to go on radio and television stations to protest your innocence. Last week you made ABC’s Nightline.
Not long before that you somehow managed to get James Kilpatrick, the national columnist, to write a favorable paragraph about you. Last Sunday morning, you made it to national television again; this time on ABC’s This Week With David Brinkley. You smiled at the panel with your usual studied insouciance. Sitting next to you was Senator John Glenn of Ohio.
Brinkley, Sam Donaldson, and George Will were the interrogators.
It was a sobering scene. There you sat with Glenn, both sweating before the cameras, waiting to answer questions: two badly tarnished American icons.
No one forgets that Glenn was the first American astronaut to orbit the Earth. You won’t let anyone forget that you were a prisoner of war. But you have played that tune too long. By now your constant reminders about your war record make you seem like a modern version of Arthur Miller’s tragic failure Willy Loman.
Clearly, both you and Glenn sold your fame for Charles Keating’s money.
It was a Faustian bargain. It was also a bad joke on the rest of us and a disaster for many old people who lost their life’s savings to Keating.
The money was never really Keating’s to give. But he never would have got his hands on it if you and the rest of the Keating Five didn’t halt the government takeover for two long years while Keating’s people continued their looting.
And now, the tab for the Savings and Loan heist must be paid from taxpayer pockets.
On Sunday, Senators Dennis DeConcini, Alan Cranston, and Riegle refused offers to appear on the Brinkley show. What must we make of that?
You, the closest of them to Keating and the deepest in his debt, have chosen the path of the hard sell. You may even make it out of the pot, but to many, your protestations of innocence taste like gall.
You are determined to bluff your way. You will stick to your story that you were acting to help a constituent and intended to do nothing improper. The very fact you attended the meeting makes you guilty, just as every man who entered the Brinks vault went to prison.
McCain: The Most Reprehensible of the Keating Five
The story of “the Keating Five” has become a scandal rivaling Teapot Dome and Watergate
By Tom Fitzpatrick
Published on November 29, 1989
You’re John McCain, a fallen hero who wanted to become president so desperately that you sold yourself to Charlie Keating, the wealthy con man who bears such an incredible resemblance to The Joker.Subject(s):
John Mc John McCain, Keating FiveObviously, Keating thought you could make it to the White House, too.
He poured $112,000 into your political campaigns. He became your friend. He threw fund raisers in your honor. He even made a sweet shopping-center investment deal for your wife, Cindy. Your father-in-law, Jim Hensley, was cut in on the deal, too.
Nothing was too good for you. Why not? Keating saw you as a prime investment that would pay off in the future.
So he flew you and your family around the country in his private jets. Time after time, he put you up for serene, private vacations at his vast, palatial spa in the Bahamas. All of this was so grand. You were protected from what Thomas Hardy refers to as “the madding crowd.” It was almost as though you were already staying at a presidential retreat.
Like the old song, that now seems “Long ago and far away.”
Since Keating’s collapse, you find yourself doing obscene things to save yourself from the Senate Ethics Committee’s investigation. As a matter of course, you engage in backbiting behavior that will turn you into an outcast in the Senate if you do survive.
They say that if you put five lobsters into a pot and give them a chance to escape, none will be able to do so before you light the fire. Each time a lobster tries to climb over the top, his fellow lobsters will pull him back down. It is the way of lobsters and threatened United States senators.
And, of course, that’s the way it is with the Keating Five. You are all battling to save your own hides. So you, McCain, leak to reporters about who did Keating’s bidding in pressuring federal regulators to change the rules for Lincoln Savings and Loan.
When the reporters fail to print your tips quickly enough–as in the case of your tip on Michigan Senator Donald Riegle–you call them back and remind them how important it is to get that information in the newspapers.
The story of “the Keating Five” has become a scandal rivaling Teapot Dome and Watergate. The outcome will be decided, not in a courtroom, but probably on national television.
Those who survive will be the sociopaths who can tell a lie with the most sincere, straight face. You are especially adept at this.
Last Friday night, on The John McLaughlin Show, which features well-known Washington journalists, the subject of the Keating Five was discussed. Panelist Jack Germond suggested that three of the Keating Five were probably already through in politics.
So you spend your days desperately trying to make sure you will be one of the survivors. You keep volunteering to go on radio and television stations to protest your innocence. Last week you made ABC’s Nightline.
Not long before that you somehow managed to get James Kilpatrick, the national columnist, to write a favorable paragraph about you. Last Sunday morning, you made it to national television again; this time on ABC’s This Week With David Brinkley. You smiled at the panel with your usual studied insouciance. Sitting next to you was Senator John Glenn of Ohio.
Brinkley, Sam Donaldson, and George Will were the interrogators.
It was a sobering scene. There you sat with Glenn, both sweating before the cameras, waiting to answer questions: two badly tarnished American icons.
No one forgets that Glenn was the first American astronaut to orbit the Earth. You won’t let anyone forget that you were a prisoner of war. But you have played that tune too long. By now your constant reminders about your war record make you seem like a modern version of Arthur Miller’s tragic failure Willy Loman.
Clearly, both you and Glenn sold your fame for Charles Keating’s money.
It was a Faustian bargain. It was also a bad joke on the rest of us and a disaster for many old people who lost their life’s savings to Keating.
The money was never really Keating’s to give. But he never would have got his hands on it if you and the rest of the Keating Five didn’t halt the government takeover for two long years while Keating’s people continued their looting.
And now, the tab for the Savings and Loan heist must be paid from taxpayer pockets.
On Sunday, Senators Dennis DeConcini, Alan Cranston, and Riegle refused offers to appear on the Brinkley show. What must we make of that?
You, the closest of them to Keating and the deepest in his debt, have chosen the path of the hard sell. You may even make it out of the pot, but to many, your protestations of innocence taste like gall.
You are determined to bluff your way. You will stick to your story that you were acting to help a constituent and intended to do nothing improper. The very fact you attended the meeting makes you guilty, just as every man who entered the Brinks vault went to prison.

The biggest lie of the whole presidential campaign so far is McCain’s drama queen announcement that he has suspended his campaign.
The contrary is true, as we on this first day after that announcement.
It’s a sad thing to witness how John McCain, once a hero, has become a cynical liar and political opportunist. Your typical Washington insider.

Okay so there is plenty of spin, what about the strategy at work here by both sides?

Do you think a majority, in either party is ready to accept a bailout if most of the money is going to the finance side,
that is the bankers?

Well Peltier, calling McCain a Cynical Liar is real productive! We’ll see who has the last laugh on Nov 4!

How much Bank scandel actually follows McCain? Well, He was investigated and largely exonerated in a political influence scandal of the 1980s as a member of the ‘Keating Five’. His connection to Rick Davis, who imbezzeled money from Fannie Mae, as early as last Month. And one of McCains sons, who was a bank auditor, mysteriously left his job , two months before the bank went bankrupt. Even another Senator from an earlier speech, connected McCain to the scandel in the 1980′s. The ‘Keats five’. McCain has told us, he has been in contact with the Senate, but even the Senators said, they had not spoken to him. He just heard of the plan two days ago. McCain has lost Touch. Being touched by CORUPTION, must make him feel a little numb. If he can still feel at all.
I have a question, about any other organizations, he may be a part of.
Americans may be curious to know which one. I suggest transparency be implemented. At least that is McCains platform. It still is, Right?
And guess what, about Todd Palin?
:)
Of course, Sarah could not join. But she could speak at a group meeting. She’s a Female. Only Men join this group. Women join the OTHER ONE. :)
Who is Senator Richard Shelby…
Who wants the answers?
Who is waiting for the book, to come out?

What about you dsagvwta.
Will you accept a bailout if there is a deal or will you be angry with your rep?

It really looks to me like McCain jumped into the situation to get out of the debate, others may see it differently.
But now that he is involved, do you think he can be a part of any bailout without upsetting his base?

what do you think geevill?

CAIN is trying to push Obama into taking the side of Bush so then he can come as the liberator against both.
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES AND MANIPULATIONS.
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICANS IN GOVERNMENT.
DEMOCRATS ALL THE WAY!

McCain’s whole behavior in all of this is that of a big baby crying as loud as possible while the adults try to do some serious talking.

Obama listed some points that he thought were critical to a deal and I suspect they are boilerplate Dem issues, but do you think that the Republicans will accept mortgage loan assistance or CEO pay caps that McCain suggested?

Talk is cheap! If Obama was Pinocchio his nose would reach Jupiter! He is one big Joke!

That is an interesting point, so to speak.

Anyone have any ideas about a compromise plan that will save us from economic meltdown?

The best thing to do is be realistic. Being at each others throats during this bailout thing is worthless!

Republican Christians for Obama.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU AT LEAST GOT REPUBLICANS AND CHRISTIANS SPELLED RIGHT. UNLILKE “VIET NAM VETS AGAINST MCCAIN.” (CHECK OUT HOW THIS FAKE SPELLED VIETNAM).

Obama and McCain are bought off by the same masters. War, both support it. Economy, both want bailouts for billionaires, government growth, they both never met a military or government expanision they never liked. Face it folks either guy gets in, your tax dollars will be spent overseas or given away to campaign contributors. Pure and simple. No way around it. The policies will stay EXACTLY the SAME, ok. There is no risk here if you love the staus quo. However if you wanted this country to change it’s course from entering the abyss, SORRY financially, economically, militarily, we are headed over the cliff, no matter if it’s “Insane McSAME” or Barack OBOMBA who wants to create citizen councils to ticket you for not seperating your paper from your plastic in the garbage bin like they already do in Britan. In a word folks… HOPELESS, Utterly HOPELESS. Enjoy your fixed election with those computerized or paper ballots. (Like they never fixed elections before th 1980′s, Hell remember the corruption of Chicago… Barack…. Remember Mayor Daley??? Here we go again!

You people do realize that the fight here looks a lot like sunni/shia or Israeli/Palestinian conflict or fights like that don’t you?
No ideas, just hate and name calling.
That aint gonna save America.

I just stepped back from this thing and it all looks pretty absurd.

McCoward may not be coming.
ENOUGH OF Mc COWARD AND MANIPULATIVE REPUBLICANS.
ENOUGH OF LYING TO THE COUNTRY FOR POLITICAL GAIN.
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICANS.
HONEST DEMOCRATS FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.
REPUBLICANS: IT’S TIME TO GO.

ah. gotta go.
Well you kids enjoy yourselves.

Is that so? a “fraud” ,” coward” “LIAR”
Is that a fact? Unless you can back that
up. Keep your mouth shut!!!

I think you are all talk, LENNIE!

I am glad McCain had enough sense to get back to Washington to work on this bill to avoid the Great Depression—-Quit frankly, it is very scarrey that obama had to be dragged back kicking and screaming. Notice that Obama Followed McCain back after whinning he didn’t need to go.

Returning to Washington was a brilliant move for McCain – surely caught Obama by surprise – bumped a few points in Zogby and Gallup also.

They can make the deal – but horrendous damage has been done to America’s reputation as an economic powerhouse. …….
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/25/america-has-lost-economic-authority/

Presidential nominee must debate tomorrow because the world would like to know the intention of both candiates. Please, go and many people will be happy. I don’t have money to gas in my car and I have to walk in order to go to School while I have a car.

It is interesting that McCain and Obama are getting tax payer dollars to do a job in Washington and McCain is the only one who takes his JOB seriously..
Obama spends 143 days in the Senate, runs for President and when the country is in need of him to go and do his JOB, he decides a DEBATE is more important.
Where is the outrage that Americans tax dollars (5 million dollars) is going to fund a DEBATE that could have been taken care during the summer with 10 Town Hall meetings.
Obama likes the “GLAMMER” as demonstrated at the Denver Convention where he spent 7 million dollars with a Greek facade strictly to impress the country.
No wonder the House Republicans and McCain are holding tight on those 700 billion dollar purse strings.
Tax payers are footing this bill for years to come and many of the people posting here will be many years older when that debt is paid off,

The democratic candidate aint done nothing worthy of becoming, POTUS.

I’ve heard enough outta you democrat babies! You just have big mouths!

Take care GIRLS!

– How many times does McCain have to prove that he will make strong executive decisions and take shots from the media and the democrats in order to prove that he will always do what is right for the American people. –
Well, just be glad he wasn’t in office when all of this happened! Here’s a quote from John McCain’s article, ‘Better Health Care at Lower Cost for Every American’, in the Sept./Oct. 2008 issue of Contingencies, the magazine of the American Academy of Actuaries:
“Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation”.
That was THIS months issue.

More and more as time goes along, McCain is showing presidential leadership. AS A SENATOR HE IS DOING “HIS JOB” BY RETURNING TO WASHINGTON TO “ASSUME HIS RESPONSIBILITY!” ONAMA, “CALL ME IF YOU NEED ME!!” CAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO CANDIDATES BE MORE CLEARER THAN IN THIS EXAMPLE??

MCCAIN AND PAULSON HOLDING WALL STREET HOSTAGE WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLES MONEY TO HELP MCCAIN LOOK LIKE HE SOLVED IT.
MORE LIES, DECEPTION AND CARE LESS ATTITUDE ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE PARTIES INVOLVED CAME TO AN AGREEMENT WHICH INCLUDED HELP FOR TAXPAYERS, THEN MCCAIN FINALLY ARRIVED IN WASHINGTON AFTER HIS INTERVIEW WITH KATIE CURIC AND THE REPUBLICANS TAKE THE DEAL OFF OF THE TABLE PRETENDING LIKE THEY CANNOT NOW COME TO AN AGREEMENT. BUSH AND MCCAIN DO NOT CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY, BUT THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT HELPING MCCAIN TRY AND WIN AT THE COST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT’S ASSININE THAT THEY HAVE A STATEMENT ABOUT DEMOCRAT’S WHEN THESE IDIOTS HAD AN AGREEMENT THEN TOOK IT OFF THE TABLE TO TRY AND INVOLVE MCCAIN WHO HAD NOT EVEN READ THE THREE PAGE PAULSON PROPOSAL, EVEN THOUGH HE SAID HE NEEDED TO GO AND HELP. HE LIED. HE DID NOT EVEN READ THE THREE PAGES. THIS IS ANOTHER POLITICAL GAME AT THE EXPENSE OF THIS COUNTRY. HE LIED WHEN HE SAID HE SUSPENDED HIS CAMPAIGN. THEY ARE STILL RUNNING LYING COMMERCIALS. THEY ARE STILL CAMPAIGNING IN THEIR OFFICES AND NOW THEY ARE PROPOSING DELAYING AN AGREEMENT TO HELP MCCAIN LOOK GOOD FOR THIS ELECTION AT THE COST OF OUR FINANCIAL MARKETS FAILING AND AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AMERICAN AND FOREIGN PEOPLE. HOW DARE THESE IGNORANT, INCONSIDERATE PEOPLE ALLOW THIS NONSENSE. THEY ARE STALLING PROGESS FOR POLITICAL GAMES. MCCAIN IS MCCAIN FIRST AND COUNTRY IN YOUR DREAMS.

Psstponing the debate is the ONLY way the two parties will settle this mess. The reason is simple – IF each candidate heads into a debate and take opposing views on any issue related to the financial crisis, such opposing view will become “cast in stone” – nobody will back down after such views are articulated in such a forum. Fact is, debates pre-assume opposing viewpoints, the candidates can’t simply go to a debate without DEBATING, and that means taking opposing views. THIS IS THE LAST THING WE NEED AT THIS POINT… BTW, I think both candidates are worthy of being President, but it appears that Obama my well be pushing too hard at the moment, and should calm down and focus on this financial crisis… he’s got plenty of time to expose his strengths in a multitude of ways before the election – but not until after a settlement has been reached and he is wrong to push for the debate at this moment.

This is where McCain wins the race. Come out to play conservatives! Stick with it!
Obama has essentially endorsed this HUGELY unpopular $700 Bil bailout and McCain needs to stay free market. If the republicans find a free market, private solution and then say that they will be giving broad based tax cuts to stimulate the economy and viola, McCain will win.
Just my opinion.
3rd party 2008!

“When Obama gave up the chance of a prestigeous career as a high powered attorney to help the less fortunate he was only thinking of himself.” Blogger Seriously, you mean when Obama got into Harvard by affirmative action when he didn’t graduate with honors from Columbia because Obama’s grades weren’t good enough to get into Harvard? Obama wasn’t good enough to be a high powered lawyer without affirmative action.

– More and more as time goes along, McCain is showing presidential leadership. AS A SENATOR HE IS DOING “HIS JOB” BY RETURNING TO WASHINGTON TO “ASSUME HIS RESPONSIBILITY!” –
Good thing, since he hasn’t been there since April. But in all honesty, the only reason they were called in was because they are running for top-dog position and it would seem inappropriate not to do so, purely for show. Can you imagine the public reaction.. chickens in Washington and wall street running around claiming the sky is falling, Bush on the TV declaring a national crisis and end of the world, media going on and on how we will slip into the largest depression since 1929.. and neither candidate was there to ‘fix’ things?
They had very little input to the plan, and their only concerns, as they have stated was, to ensure there was sufficient oversight and reporting.. you know, that ‘transparency’ each one is trying to espouse in their campaigns..
What I saw was McCain trying to ‘look’ presidential, all the while doing more flip-flops than a fish on a hot sidewalk eventually reversing his long time campaign for deregulation and calling for what Obama has been advocating since the beginning, coming up with some half thought out plan as a purely reactionary response, calling out for the firing of various individuals and claiming that he was ‘suspending’ his campaign until the world was right again. All the while, Obama realized that the sky was not falling and continued on in a calm and reasoned manner, knowing that the powers in place would eventually hammer something out that he could review and approve if necessary.
I saw some Presidential qualities glimmering in all of this, but it sure wasn’t coming out of McCains camp.

– Obama got into Harvard by affirmative action –
Please tell me how ‘how’ he got into Harvard has anything to do with, well, anything? Should we also investigate just how McCain got into the US Naval Academy with perhaps a little help from dad and grand-dad who were both admirals in the Navy? Does it do anything to change the fact that Obama graduated magna cum laude, something that is not given out lightly, particularly at Harvard Law School, while McCain graduated 5th from the bottom?

Concerned American.
Actually, Obama can thank his ascension into Harvard law school to the financial gifts (tuition) and influence of Saudi advisor, Khalid al-Mansour, close to royal family and front man for the Black Panthers.

OH JIMBO….
you don’t wanna talk SAUDI FRIENDS… doy you?

IS that like how close the Bush familt and the bin laden family are , neghbors

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Personally I’m disgusted with McCain. He selected an unqualified running mate, to get press reaction. He has run the dirtiest campaign I’ve ever seen. He has changed from a man of principle to a man who will do anything to get elected. And now he has politicized an economic crisis.
Well, at least he’s distracted everyone from his campaign managers lies about ties to fannie mae and Palin’s disastrous interview answer today.
http://palincounter.blogspot.com/

Why is it so hard for the republicans to commit $700 billion (actually 1.5 billion at this point) to fix their deregulatory screw up, but they had no problem supporting $400 billion plus a year in deficit spending for the past 8 years that has put us 3.2 trillion in the hole so far.
Republicans want to destroy this country, then so be it. I live where we have the 8th largest economy in the world. I would rather see my tax dollars stay here and watch the red states go in the toilet

– Well, at least he’s distracted everyone from his campaign –
I’d tend to agree with you there Bill. I was willing to give both a chance.. I’m an independent. What really turned me off of McCain was his continuation of Reganomics, giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy. Even his own economic advisor, when head of the Congressional Budget Office showed over and over again in his analysis that trickle down just doesn’t work. I liked Obamas approach of giving the tax breaks to those who need it most. I’ve also felt that we should have been moving towards renewable alternative fuel sources ever since the great gas shortage back in, what was it, the 70′s.. the RNC chanting “drill now, drill now” just disgusted me. But when McCain picked Palin, it was all over. To me, doing so just showed that his judgement is not what it used to be. And now keeping her away from answering the questions that will help people make up their mind about her is simply an insult to Americans.

Ireland has recently cut corporate and capital gains taxes to the bone and the place is rocking – Unlike most of the rest of Europe, which is pretty much anti business (which Obama wants to copy) ECON 101 – LOWER TAXES FOR ALL EQUALS MORE MONEY TO FED. CERTAINLY OBAMA AND LIBS HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF THIS VERY BASIC ECONOMIC PRINCIPLE!!

I agree that the networks seem biased, but not for the left. They are biased for simplistic “clips”. With a massive trade deficit, unparalleled gov’t deficit, and now a bail-out of the financial system which will initially cost well over $2,000/man, woman and child in America, things are anything but SIMPLE. The average household savings approaching 0, yet the Gov’t is spending and borrowing from future generations like everyone is sitting on gold. The networks MUST stop with the short “clips” and start digging into what is actually happening. The candidates MUST now be REALLY good to hold everything together long enough to find a solution, as painful as it will be. Simple casting of issues by the media doesn’t enable the candidates to illustrate the breadth of their organisations. I’d like to see each party’s financial wizards WRITE OUT their vision of a solution, then have a detailed discussion of which approach is best… unfortunately, the networks don’t think anyone cares about the details ;(

On every major issue facing the
country McCain leads and Obama follows!
Iraq, Energy, the Financial Crisis!
Are we going to elect a leader like
John McCain or Mr Me Too, Barack Obama?
While Obama is deciding which way to
Spin each issue to his political advantage John McCain comes up
with specific proposals.

What good would electing Obama/Biden Do?
Nothing, they have no balls!

You democrats have done nothing to make it better! PERIOD!
All you do is shoot your big mouths Off!

If you dems weren’t desperate, you wouldn’t be stealing yard signs.

– If you dems weren’t desperate, you wouldn’t be stealing yard signs –
Well, I’ve had three Obama signs stolen so far, an Obama bumber sticker ripped off the back of my car, and I won’t even tell you how many Darwin-fish I’ve had stolen
or destroyed.

When Bush cut taxes early in his presidency, we enjoyed six years of booming economic growth – AND THAT WAS DURING THE 911 DAYS, WAR ON TERRORISM AND A HOST OF WEATHER RELATED INCIDENTS!! actually dwarfing those economies of most European countries. I know that I enjoyed a boost in MY paycheck! Obama’s socialistic plans (which have failed in Europe) will just be an added burden on most of us because those with bucks are going to put them into tax free munis or into offshore accounts. SOCKING IT TO BIG BUSINESS? DREAM ON!! BUSINESS WIll EITHER CUT BACK OR PASS ADDED TAXES ON TO THE REST OF US – OR MOVE TO FRIENDLIER COUNTRIES!!! WHICH MEANS THE REST OF US WILL REMAIN TO PAY FOR OBAMA’S PIE IN THE SKY ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS!!

Hey, all of a sudden the Dems and liberals arent playing the race card. Imagine that. They got a litle boost from a lead in a couple of polls, and now their pounding their chests like gorillas. But watch, as soon as McCain overtakes Obama, that race card will be front and center. Pathetic liberals are so predictable.

I’d like to know when it became acceptable for a documented racist, and befriender of anti american terrorists to run for president. When did the rules change? Why the double standard? Enlighten me somebody.

Concerned.
CLINTON balanced budget BY CUTTING MILITARY DOWN TO ALMOST NOTHING – WHICH LEFT US PRETTY BARE IN BATTLE AGAINST TERRORISM – WE ARE STILL NOT UP TO THE LEVEL OF PRE CLINTON. AND THE REAL BAD NEWS IS THAT…. OBAMA.. WILL ALSO CUT MILITARY WAY BACK!!! WONDERFUL!!

– When did the rules change? –
Rules didn’t change.. you just got your facts wrong.

THEY NEED TO REACH A CONSENSUS WHETHER THERE WILL BE A DEBATE OR NOT BY TOMORROW MORNING AND NOT LET IT DEPEND ON THE OUTCOME OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. the reputation of our country is also at stake and we don’t want to appear irresponsible…IT LOOKS IRRESPONSIBLE ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE WORLD IS WATCHING AND ALSO NEEDS TO BE NOTIFIED WHETHER THERE IS A DEBATE OR NOT AND RECALL THEIR CAMERA CREWS. BOTH OBAMA AND MCCAIN NEED TO MAKE AN EARLY ANNOUNCEMENT AND SET ANOTHER DATE, IF NOT FRIDAY.This is rediculous.

Sandy – talking with Sen. Dodd – what is that, a joke? A little STRETCH?

The point is, Manitu, that Senator Obama has been working with/and talking to financial advisors and Congressional members this whole week. McCain never called to see what was up. McCain thinks he’s starring as “Johnny Maverick Goes to Washington,” but his campaign is a joke, and he’s the punchline. He’s running around, trying to make one dramatic move after another, trying to do that thing that will suddenly launch his campaign. He’s looking like someone’s grandpa who got too drunk at the wedding, and is embarrassing everyone at the reception.

Sandy.
McCain’s campaign is a joke?
Grandpa McCain?
……. desperation tactics? NITE!

Almost all polls show majority citizens and business owners against the bailout before Congress.
With McCain favoring the bailout, it will be a coup for Obama to oppose the bailout when the bill got into the Congress floor for roll call vote.
His no votes will validate and support his campaign platform of CHANGE.
For sure, Obama will then get innumerable votes from many undecided and independent voters who firmly oppose the bailout bill.
Additionally, he can legitimately attack McCain on his REFORMS platform that contradicts his support and voting for the bailout.

– Interesting statistics, but you can’t fight a war with statistics. –
You obviously missed the point of the analysis, or read it to see what recommendations were made specifically in Iraq.
– If we had a full military, 911 MIGHT not have happened. AND… if we were at full strength, Iraq might have been over much sooner!! –
Sure, we can play the ‘IF’ game all night, and it won’t do a bit of good. But if you look at the reality of the situation, it was Bin Laden who started 9/11, yet he’s still hanging out and making tapes. We had more than sufficient forces to go in and take him out, and instead Bush sent a marginal ‘token’ force, and then decided to go into Iraq as a diversion. We have seen the result.
If you had read that RAND report, it specifically addresses terrorism groups with religious motivations, such as Al-Qaeda, and says “By far the most effective strategy against religious groups has been the use of local police and intelligence services, which were responsible for the end of 73 percent of groups since 1968″. That is, bite off the head of the snake and the rest dies.
Where is Bin Laden now and just how well is that military stance working for us?
– Hussein also believed that we would NOT invade Iraq, based upon Clinton’s weak response to terrorist attacks against us –
I hardly think you can profess to know what Saddam believed.. and please tell me what threat Saddam was to the US again?
Look, if you support McCain because you are pro-military, pro-war, shoot-em first and ask questions later (ie: preemptive strike), then just say so. If that’s the case, then McCain is your man as long as you accept the rest of the stuff that comes with him (economy, health care, taxes, energy, etc…).
I much prefer getting back to our heritage where military options were always the very last possible action, and even then, it required a declaration of war from Congress to use. Obama seems to share those values, with diplomacy and dialog before military force.

– MAJOR CHANCE FOR A LONG RECESSION OR DEPRESSION as foreign money in withdrawn from our economy. –
It’s hardly a major chance.. the sky is not falling. However, by dipping into the deficit even further, for this amount of money, you can be assured without a doubt that you will see the Dollar plummet in the world market and inflation will go through the roof. Now is the time to be buying the international standard my friend, gold!

Give me one good reason why Obama should be named President. He has done nothing! You seem to think he should be the leader of our country just because of a pretty face!

Making Obama president, would be like having a High School quarterback, start a game in the NFL.

Once again, McCain leads and even BHO follows.
Obama’s “change” must also include pandering for votes even while the economy tanks.
I smell the House Republicans, led by McCain, introducing a Wall St financed bailout and backed by the majority of the American public. And BHO, and the Democrats will look like the emotional dwarfs they are.

What the h$Q@# is a Darwin-Fish??????????????

– Give me one good reason why Obama should be named President. –
Hmmm.. how about he got some brains, unlike his opponent and Bush…
or, he has a tax proposal that will benefit real Americans instead of the wealthy.
or, his energy plan is much more progressive towards alternative energy sources and would let us obtain energy independence faster than what McCain is proposing.
or, his healthcare plan is far superior to that of McCains.
or, he is pro-choice, pro-stem cell research and believes in equal rights
or, he wants to end the war in Iraq asap so we can concentrate on real issues facing this country
or, he has a much greater chance of restoring global cooperation with his diplomacy and dialog over military force attitude instead that of someone who has spent most of their lives in the military and supports military buildup and preemptive action
or, his economic plan has been the same since his entering the race, he wants to make closing the enron loophole a priority while McCain says it needs further study..
Oh wait, you just wanted one.. sorry.

Obama’s tax plan is a fraud with independent economist stating there was no way in heck that his numbers added up before the Bailout===after the government will be broke totally. Not to mention, that Obama keeps changing his numbers and percentages and has already voted to raise everyone taxes making over $32,000 should have been a clue to most—-Of course, the Obamabots didn’t catch on.

Obama and health care======take from those working to give complete and total healthcare to what druggies? Have you been on government health care? I have….it dangerous and explains why foreigners run over to the US when they catch more than a common cold. Best thing to do with health care——is allow medicine to be bought from other countries which would force the pharma companies to lower their drug prices so people can afford their own health care. Best of all, it wouldn’t cost tax payers a dime. Toss the idiot Obama out.

– Obama’s tax plan is a fraud with independent economist stating there was no way in heck that his numbers added up before the Bailout –
Since you don’t cite any reference to this independent economist, I can only go to the source that everyone else is using, or the Tax Policy Center in Washington, part of the Brookings Institute.. Please go there and you can mull the numbers and analysis yourself:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411750

Well, you can take an idiot to school, but you can’t get them to learn if they don’t want to.

From the LA times.
In more than a year of campaigning, Barack Obama has made a long list of promises for new federal programs costing tens of billions of dollars, many of them aimed at protecting people from the pain of a souring economy.
But if he wins the presidency, Obama will be hard-pressed to keep his blueprint intact. A variety of budget analysts are skeptical that the Democrat’s agenda could survive in the face of large federal budget deficits and the difficulty of making good on his plan to raise new revenue by closing tax loopholes, ending the Iraq war and cutting spending that is deemed low-priority.
Like predecessors who also had to square far-reaching promises with inescapable budget realities, they say, a President Obama might need to jettison pieces of Obama-ism.
“I don’t think it all adds up,” Isabel Sawhill, an official in President Clinton’s Office of Management and Budget, said of Obama’s spending plans.
“There will definitely need to be a recalibration of these proposals once someone is in office,” said Sawhill, now a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. “The fiscal situation just isn’t going to permit doing what Sen. Obama or anyone else would like.”

Let the GOP handle this. Destroy the conservative movement for a generation. Hehehe…

I should have added, those figures are over a 10 year period.. that is, over 10 years, Obamas plan would increase the deficit by an estimated $2.9 trillion, while McCains proposed plan would increase the deficit by $4.2 trillion. Ouch, either way, it’s gonna cost.

Richards Shelbys little Boys, are Waiting for Obama. Show Your Support America. JOIN the Debate, and Face McScooby Doo.
Hit The Debates America. Unite as One American people, and Ask About Rick Davis. Ask about Bill Clinton. Why did they Set up Fannie and Frankie, and about that Fund Raiser? No Promotions?
BLOOD DIAMONDS for American MORGAGES.
Tainted Milk and Water bottles, Were going to take Texas, by Storm. No Relief From Wall Street for Americans in Texas. WHY NOT. ASK the Senator. He fought For WALL STREET. The Money changers Standing on the WALL. Tip over their Tables. Say No To Bush and Richard Shelby, They did NOT stand up for your Life. They Sold Your lives, for BLOOD DIAMONDS. De-Reulations, Would allow Crates to be Uninspected. Crates of Weapons, for a New War.
Bail Out America. Make Shelby to Liquidate, his Billions. Clinton and his Billions from Fannie and Frankie.
Ask Where is Rick Davis.
Back to Alaska everybody. Lets Look at Palins State. Where is that Oil coming from? ALL HUMANS, AROUND THE WORLD. ASK your Leaders WHY?

MM….
An Obama Democrat supporter answering questions about John McCain being in Washington, D.C. at the request of President Bush.
An Obama Democrat supporter says, “McCain is slowing things down”.
When asked, “Is Obama slowing things down?”
Obama Democrat supporter says, “No, Obama isn’t slowing things down.”
When asked, “What is Obama doing?”
Obama Democrat supporter says, “Obama isn’t doing anything.”
When asked, “What is McCain doing to slow things down?”
Obama Democrat supporter says, “Nothing.”
When asked, “How is McCain slowing things down?”
Obama Democrat supporter says, “He just is.”
When Asked, “But isn’t McCain doing the same thing as Obama?”
Obama Democrat supporter says, “Oh, no.”
When asked, “Didn’t you say both Obama and McCain are doing the same and both are doing nothing?”
Obama Democrat supporter says, “That’s true. But McCain is slowing things down.”
Only an idiot could believe what the Democratic Obama supporter said.
Is that the logic Democrats use to support Obama? Hell, they might as well have Donald Duck for a Presidential candidate. The only thing, I think Donald is a Republican that would not want to lower his standards.
Then we have the Democrats saying, “I don’t know why John McCain is here in Washington. He isn’t doing anything. He’s never here to vote”.
Well, Democrats, President Bush is being gracious by requesting both Presidential candidates to be in Washington. He wants both Presidential candidates to hear first hand information. That beats phone calls and misinformation used by the Democrats.
Moreover, it was John McCain showing Obama the way to Washington. McCain is a leader while Obama shows that he is a follower. College professors are saying, “Obama is not qualified to be the President of the United States of American. Obama has no military experience, no executive experience and he is only a junior senator that has much to learn about foreign affairs.
Then there is “Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] filed a Joint Motion to Dismiss on the last day to file a response, for the obvious purpose of delaying Court action in the case of Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083“.
“It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the “qualifications” to be President of the United States pursuant to our United States Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his “Vault” [original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist.”
The Democrats try to use crafty methods to pull in votes for their Presidential candidate. The candidate the Democrats have chosen leaves many unanswered question about his past. He admits to being plagiaristic and that he quotes words from famous people. The only thing wrong with that is Obama make it sound like the quotes are Obama’s and originated by Obama. More deception by Obama.
The next time the Democrats should not try to use trickery and deception when selecting a Presidential candidate. The Democrats should try using someone known to be honest, trustworthy, with diplomatic experience, with executive experience and a person readily recognized by the voting public. I would vote for Oprah Winfrey if she was a Democrat Presidential candidate. However, I do not think Oprah Winfrey would care for the action in Washington, D.C.
The Democrats only use empty words against John McCain and Sarah Palin. Democrats show there is nothing positive to say about Obama. Instead, the Democrats and the Democrat supporters use negative empty words to tear apart the good people, John McCain and Sarah Palin.

“It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the “qualifications” to be President of the United States pursuant to our United States Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his “Vault” [original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist.”
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I SENT THIS LETTER TO MY REPRESENTATIVES IN CONGRESS:
We demand that Congress stops adding earmarks and pork within the contents of the “Bail Out Bill”. In addition we do not want a payout to ACORN — or any organization like ACORN.
We feel this is an egregious abuse of House and the Senate positions in Congress. Enough is enough.
We will no longer continue to vote or support any Representative or Senator who votes for bills with earmarks and pork or allots money to ACORN.
I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE WHO WALKED AWAY WITH TONS OF MONEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BAIL OUT.
If the government agrees to pay off mortgages for people who bought homes they could not afford — then the government needs to pay off ALL mortgages for ALL legal American citizens.
I don’t want my tax payments used to pay off somebody else’s home!
I PERSONALLY AM AGAINST A WALL STREET BAILOUT BUT AT LEAST FORKING OVER A THIRD OF THE MONEY — WITH THE REST CONTINGENT ON EFFECTIVENESS — MAKES SENSE.
I AM TOTALLY AGAINST GIVING 10% TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE “ACORN”. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BUY HOMES THEY CAN’T AFFORD. DO NOT BAIL THEM OUT.
NORTH CAROLINA TAXPAYER
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Barack Hussein Obama is campaigning tomorrow — promoting “himself”.
Why isn’t Obama going back to DC to work on our country’s crisis? If he can’t do his senate job — he surely can’t run this country! — OR maybe that’s above his pay grade!
Country First in 2008.