McCain & Obama Share Stage Briefly at Service Forum
ABC’s Jennifer Duck and Sunlen Miller report:
The two presidential candidates came together for the second time on the seventh anniversary of Sept. 11 to talk about service in a forum sponsored by ServiceNation and TIME magazine. A brief handshake and pat on the back served as a break between each candidate’s solo segment with moderators.
Both had visited Ground Zero together earlier in the day.
“When I think of 9/11, I think of that spirit after the tragedy had occurred, how the outpouring of patriotism, emotion, volunteerism, the desire for service was in the minds of everyone," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said about his feelings of 9/11.
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., echoed similar sentiments, and of bipartisanship. “We weren’t Republicans on Sept. 11, we weren’t Democrats, we were Americans.”
Moderator Judy Woodruff asked if McCain’s many years in Washington gives him the understanding of changes that need to be made. McCain, trying to distance his role as a Washington insider, responded, “Well, first of all, I wasn’t elected "Miss Congeniality" again this year. … And the fact is, I fought them, and fought them, and fought them. And we have achieved some reforms.”
Woodruff then pressed McCain on his running mate’s criticisms and sharp tone of Obama’s experience as a community organizer.
“First of all, this is a tough business,” McCain said, before defending his vice presidential pick.
“Look, Gov. Palin was responding to the criticism of her inexperience and her job as a mayor in a small town. That’s what she was responding to. Of course, I respect community organizers.”
McCain continued, “I admire mayors. Listen, mayors have the toughest job, I think, in America. It’s easy for me to go to Washington and, frankly, be somewhat divorced from the day-to-day challenges people have.”
Obama, when asked about the criticisms of his early community organizing days, was on the defense, saying he was surprised that his work was “belittled,” but praised Palin for her work as a mayor.
“Mayors have some of the toughest jobs in the country, because that’s where the rubber hits the road. We yak in the Senate. They actually have to fill potholes and trim trees and make sure the garbage is taken away.”
McCain praised Obama throughout the forum, saying he would work with him no matter what happens in November.
“Would you perhaps ask Sen. Obama to be a member of your Cabinet for national service?” moderator Rick Stengel asked.
“Yes,” McCain said with a laugh. “You know, every time we see a problem, we sort of — let’s create another Cabinet post. Now, we have got so many members of the Cabinet, that the Cabinet never meets, as you well know. So, I’d rather see a powerful, influential, outstanding person sitting in that office who I could literally deal with every day.”
Obama –- when asked if he would accept McCain’s offer –- said not just yet.
“We’ve got a little work to do before we get to that point,” Obama said, laughing.
When asked, if he won the presidency, if he would ask McCain to be a member of his Cabinet for national service, Obama said yes, and joked again, “I mean, if this is the deal he wants to make right now.”
The forum also raised an interesting point about the ROTC program, which is absent at Columbia University, where the forum was held. Both candidates have ties to the university — McCain’s daughter Meghan attended the school, and it is Obama’s alma mater.
“Frankly, we’re here in a wonderful institution. I’m proud that my daughter graduated from this school. But do you know that this school will not allow ROTC on this campus?” McCain said at one point to roaring applause both inside and outside the auditorium where a group of students gathered to watch the speeches on an outdoor big screen TV.
“I don’t think that’s right,” McCain continued. “Shouldn’t the students here be exposed to the attractiveness of serving in the military, particularly as an officer? So, maybe — I would hope that these universities … would re-examine that policy of not even allowing people who come here to represent the military, and other Ivy League schools, and then maybe they will be able to attract some more.”
Obama agreed, calling it a “mistake” to not let ROTC on campus. “I recognize that there are students here who have differences in terms of military policy. But the notion that young people here at Columbia or anywhere, in any university, aren’t offered the choice, the option of participating in military service, I think is a mistake.”
The cordial event was a brief respite of the fierce back and forth on the campaign trail this week. Obama will campaign in New Hampshire over the weekend, and McCain will be in New York and Washington, D.C.
The presidential contenders won’t be seen on stage together again until the first presidential debate on Sept. 26 in Mississippi.
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Can Charles Gibson truly look the country in the eye and say I am not bias? As a registered Democrat I was truly disgusted with the interview with Governor Palin. After watching numerous interviews given by Gibson this was a true shocker. Gibsons intentional attempt to try and make Governor Palin look foolishly uniformed and less than able to handle international affairs was insulting. Gibsons own bias by ignorance does not let him see the facts. His attempt to make the Governor Palin look foolish and simply blind to the facts only turned against him, with the Governors strait forward very much informed able and ready answers to his questions during the interview/interrogation. Gibson was made the fool. Gibson was biased not subjective in his interview. ABC should truly look at this and ask themselves is this is a subjective member of our association? To refer to Senator Obamas recent comments ” You can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig” truly describes Charles Gibson
Posted by: SamDavidBagley | September 11, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
I thought that McCain gave better answers
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Obama is a bloviating wind bag who clearly heard all of Sen. McCain’s answers….McCain has always said serve a purpose higher than yourself and what does BO say AFTER McCain is off stage….same things on several counts.
CLEARLY NO CONE OF SILENCE FOR BOZO WHO WOULD NEVER DO 10 TOWN HALLS LIKE McCAIN REQUESTED MONTHS AGO.
Frickin loser Obama…you make me sick.
Posted by: Debra | September 12, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
But oh the applause Debra. Yes, his answers had no substance. Hillary also said that they would ask her questions first and he would take the answers. I find myself gazing off when he speaks.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Another Obama supporter that does not know how determine an unbiased interview or convention coverage after the MSNBC BIAS. Why do you think MSNBC fired those drum banging anchors from the political coverage. They do not like being behind and now they are out. MSNBC proves they are a radical station with out control in their own back yard.
Do not like the people seeing the true Obama and trying to take the hi light off of him before the foot makes it to the mouth again. Obama can not even follow the rules of the forum. The rules no comparisons, Obama can not explain his stand without McCain’s stance. NO PROMPTER.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 12, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Obama talks that he is our commander as if he has won. Give him a little spotlight. He will burn himself.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 12, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Why can’t Obama get rid of his stutter and stammer? I, I, I, I,….but, but, but, ug, ug, ug, agh, ahg….oh my God….he LOSES ME EVERYTIME.
GO McCAIN!!!!
Posted by: Debra | September 12, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
He is trying to remember what lie he told before with the same question.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 12, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Obama looked like a student during a speech contest.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 12, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Doing about a d-. Did any one count the unnecessary stutters and filler words?
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 12, 2008, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Obama now wants me to pay for another kids college education ! I went to college and graduate school, Columbia University where Obama went, and worked and paid for my own tuition. I took out student loans and paid them back. Why now should I pay for another person’s tuition?
Posted by: Christina | September 12, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
McCain will kick his a– in the debates…he speaks so much more clearly and doesn’t go off in nuances. I do believe he watched McCain’s answers closely as he made reference to what McCain had said earlier.
Hillary used to hate having to answer first….Obama is always looking to copy or re-word.
Posted by: Debra | September 12, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
OMG! They’re back. I no sooner reported The Democratic National Committee had been consigned to the dustbin, than it reappeared that very evening at the 9-11 Forum On Public Service & Civic Engagement. Held at Columbia University, Richard Stengel, managing editor of TIME narrated the forum, staged by Service Nation (a new nationwide coalition). The DNC has now reemerged as The (International) Provisional People’s Collective Party, or PCP. Howard Dean is still the chairman. And, guess what the PCP has planned; you guessed it: Political Officers, Commissars. The title Commissar refers to either a People’s Commissar (government), or a Political Commissar (military). The good news, we’re going to get both. In the Soviet Union, the Institute of Political Commissars was established to control the military. The state security organizations, KGB, etc., and or People’s Commissars also controlled the Soviet Army, together with the entire Soviet State. The apparatus was so effective; we should have Commissars. But first we need an organ with which to train them. Welcome comrade, to Hillary’s National Public Service Academy: http://theseedsof9-11.com
Posted by: Peggy McGilligan | September 12, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
If you have enjoyed the pain the last 8 years, then vote “maccain”
Posted by: Phill | September 12, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
McCain was blaming Iraq for 911 ON 911. And Biden was meeting and wiring money through Mahmoud Ahmed TO Mohammad Atta ont the day OF 911… If that doesn’t make you physically sick, and make you want to vote for ANYBODY but these two lying (insert word here) then I don’t know how you can sleep at night or even live with yourself. Biden and Bob Graham were giving taxpayer dollars to someone to give to a freaking hijacker who was trained at Maxwell AFB in Alabama. If you think that this is the type of person you want in power over you the God help you and God help us ALL!!!
Posted by: argh! | September 12, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
I will have the best laugh…as I witness all you Republicans eat crow as Obama becomes President.
You are a vicious bunch of people…but I’m sure Palin must be praying for you.
Posted by: Eileen C. Tallon | September 12, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
It’s interesting to watch body language:
At the Ground Zero Memorial, McCain bent down and carefully placed a rose; Obama nonchalantly tossed his rose as if throwing away a cigarette butt.
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Posted by: Gokimmuro | September 12, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
I wonder if people are really listening to Obama and his community service requirement for every American who gets help from the government. I think that this is a vague description of slavery. This is very much like how indentured servants were expected to pay off their debts with “community service” to their debtors. I personally do not want any goverment officials telling me that I am responsible for john or jane doe who wants to further his or her education with my tax dollars while I give service to the world for asking for some help getting a great education. Wake up people, Obama has another agenda and will be a very dangerous person if elected president. Who of you want your sons and daughters forced to go to soup kitchens, AIDS victims homes, homeless shelters, Elderly homes and what ever else Obama thinks up. These are all worthy, wonderful ways of giving back to the community but when you are forced as I said you are really only a slave forced to do something you really do not want to do.
Posted by: Annette | September 12, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
Well this has been rewarding it go’s to prove a recent article in “News Week” is correct with the kind of voters we have in this country we are in for a rude awakening. Eight Years of lies and deceit all because of 9/11 we live in constant fear of a band of radicals form Afghanistan and Pakistan not Iraq but because we wanted blood and we could not find a country who took credit for the attacks we decided to go to Iraq and bomb the hell out of that country.
We never consider the fact that the people of Iraq were not responsible for 9/11 but we wanted to attack a nation that could fight back with a supposed untrue story that Osama and Saddam were connected it was a lie. But Some choose to accept a lie rather then truth and are still living in a false realm of reality.
McCain and Palin want more war and Palin in her soft ball interview with Charllie Gibson , and she is willing to go t o War with Russia assuring that our country will forever be changed.
We will not be in a rifle to rifle fight with Russia it will be much much worse.
Judging some of the comments I have read some find it easier to vote for more war and higher gas , a terrible economy,… but we need not worry if McCain is in office we may not have an economy to worry about… Just think about it. So much for my grand children .
Posted by: Kevin | September 12, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am
aNNETTE,, COME ON,, WHAT ARE YOU SMOKIN LOVE, SWEETIE? Obama has us poor folks interest at heart in everyway,, What ever agenda ur thinking up is bogust, 1st it’s going to take 2-3 years of his 1st term to get us out of debt and clean up BUsh’s MESS!!! Every country has us on there hit list!! Palin is into fish and bears and soccer, McCain’s into ??? trying to count his propertys ,,come on!!!
Go OBIDEN!!!
GO OBIDEN
Posted by: NitaBarack | September 12, 2008, 6:04 am 6:04 am
Screw them both. If you really want serious change in Washington. Vote Ron Paul!
Posted by: RonPaul | September 12, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
We went to war because of lies.
The bush administration habitually has lied to the american public.
And now McCain/Palin is doing the same.
This party feels that if you repeat something often enough, people will think it is true!
And maybe the american people really are stupid enough to believe them.
Come on people, wake up!
Posted by: LiesLiesLies | September 12, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am
RonPaul,, now He’ll get just about as many votes as Palin got in Alaska,, squash that.. at least he does know how to interview……Crap what is this America coming to?? Go OBiden!!!!
Posted by: NitaBarack | September 12, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am
Where was Michelle Obama. She was glaringly absent from the ceremony. Does she still hate America and blame America for the 911 attacks.
Did you see the new signs everywhere?
READ MY LIPSTICK
NO WAY NO HOW NOBAMA
Posted by: Democrat No More | September 12, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am
It’s interesting to watch body language:
At the Ground Zero Memorial, McCain bent down and carefully placed a rose; Obama nonchalantly tossed his rose as if throwing away a cigarette butt.
Posted by: Donoke9-10 | Sep 12, 2008 2:27:14 AM
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Cindy McCain was there to honor the dead. Michelle Obama was home refusing to honor America and those who died. Michelle hates America. Like Rev Wright she blames American Gov for 911. Everything is a conspiracy against black people. She needs spiritual and mental help. Poor woman lives in unhappy hatred.
Hay Michelle get off you @aa and honor American dead. You dont get to sit there expecting to be made first lady because you deserve it.
Posted by: Democrat No More | September 12, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
I tried to be Objective when I was watching this last night. When McCain talks I listen and his answers makes sense when Obama speaks I feel as though I don’t get real answers. Then he walks on stage like he is a rock star. McCain said Columbia shout reinstate the ROTC- No applause. Obama says it applause.
Then it dawned on me that Obama is a cult of personality:
Definition:
A cult of personality or personality cult arises when a country’s leader uses mass media to create a heroic public image through unquestioning flattery and praise. Cults of personality are often found in dictatorships but can be found in some democracies.
Generally, personality cults are most common in regimes with totalitarian systems of government, that seek to radically alter or transform society according to revolutionary new ideas. Often, a single leader becomes associated with this revolutionary transformation, and comes to be treated as a benevolent “guide” for the nation, without whom the transformation to a better future cannot occur. This has been generally the justification for personality cults that arose in totalitarian societies of the 20th century, such as those of Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler.
Posted by: A Guy Named Keith | September 12, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
A couple of things:
Annette: Slavery? Really?? That might be one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever heard. Slavery was forced labor AGAINST THE WILL of the people being made to do it. Obama is basically saying that if people are WILLING to serve their communities they should be rewarded for it in some way. “I personally do not want any goverment officials telling me that I am responsible for john or jane doe who wants to further his or her education with my tax dollars while I give service to the world for asking for some help getting a great education. … Who of you want your sons and daughters forced to go to soup kitchens, AIDS victims homes, homeless shelters, Elderly homes and what ever else Obama thinks up.” This makes no sense at all. You’re not being asked to serve to support someone else’s education; the people actually getting the education credits are the ones being asked to do service in return for the benefit. NO ONE IS BEING “FORCED” TO DO ANYTHING. Are you really that naive??
To the people whining about the order of the candidates participating: didn’t McCain get to go second in the panel on Faith? Wasn’t her purported to be in a “cone of silence” when it was later proven that he wasn’t, and he was asking for the questions before Warren even asked them? Who’s being disingenuous?
Finally, for those asking for substance: Sarah Palin would be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, and John McCain is an old man with health issues. She thinks that living in a state that’s close to Russia gives her legitimate foreign policy experience. Where’s the substance there? How hypocritical of you all.
Posted by: DP | September 12, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Also, I honored 9/11 and the memories of all the people lost yesterday, too. I did it from my office and my home. So, by your rationale, I am UN-AMERICAN because I didn’t go to ground zero and place a flower there? I was not honoring the dead?
How about this:
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/09/12/obamamccain_narrowweb__300x383,0.jpg
Who’s wearing a FLAG PIN in this picture? NOT MCCAIN! OH NO!! HE MUST HATE AMERICA!!!
Sheesh.
Posted by: DP | September 12, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Obama is turning out to be exactly what was predicted. A two-bit con artist from the Chicago style of dirt-bag sleaze! This devil in sheepskin will not be elected!
Posted by: Ed | September 12, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Republicans have been in control for 8 years and this economy sucks and you all know it. McShame is not trying to make anything better in this nation. You all are in Denial and it eats yall alive that Barrack Obama is a brilliant man and he wants to see his girls and grandchildren have better futures. You all should should want the same as well! I know I do! Believe me, this Palin the Pitbull uproar will be over as soon as she is exposed for firing that man! Obama will have this election locked up and it scares yall! Ha Ha Ha ROTFL at yall! Oh and one more thing, Obama was a community organizer when he was 23 years old! What do you think that nasty(fill in the blank) was doing when she was 23 years old. Im almost positive she was not trying to do anything to help her community. She worked for a news station! Someone told her she spoke well and told her she should run for something. She really does speak well. I give her that, but her words are lies and garbage! “She doesn’t have just skeletons in the closet, she has cemeteries in her closet”. GOBAMA! Michelle, I mean the first lady, was with her girls on yesterday.
Posted by: it dont even matter!! | September 12, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Not enough staff left to daycare.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 12, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
SamDavidBagley YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FRIGGIN’ KIDDING. Apparently you don’t remember the 2 hours of GOTCHAS that Obama and Clinton endured. You don’t remember the asinine questions about lapel pins and patriotism, rev. wright (months after the race speech) ayers -the stranger who works at the same university that Obama does. Please spare me your crocodile tear outrage. He played SOFTBALL in comparison. She’s lucky all he asked about was policy and things to do with how she would run the country as opposed to her preggers daughter in her holier than though abstinence only house. Or all of the under-aged drinking that her daughter obviously does based on the myspace page. those would’ve been some gotchas along the lines that the democratic party had to put up with. So give me a break. She better be tough an not whine. If she can’t handle Charlie she can’t handle Putin.
Posted by: lisahussein | September 12, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
dadminnesota – ya might wanna check your anger daddyO. Obama has spent 18 months on the trail without mentioning McCain and wouldn’t do so now if it weren’t for McCains LIES. Everyone has called him on the lies. from CNN to the View and yet you say Obama supporters know nothing about biased. Of course MSNBC is progressive its the counter balance to Fox News. If YOU say FOX news is not biased then I will have to say by your definition then, neither is MSNBC. you cannot have it both ways
Posted by: lisahussein | September 12, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Right now Obama could not handle Putin. He would just have that s** t eating grin and nervous stuttering and say he had nothing to do with him and has no connection to him. But I have been an organizer and a jr. Senator. Don’t hurt me. Biden can handle this.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 13, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Obama has had 173 days experience in Washington DC, so the question shouldn’t be is Palin or Biden more qualified? The question should be is Palin as qualified as Barak Hussien Obama? I can’t believe this country would even consider a Presidential candidate (Obama) that is primarily a University teacher. You know what they say, those that “can do – do”, and those that “can’t = teach”. I appreciate teachers, but it doesn’t mean I want one leading the greatest super-power on the planet.
Posted by: Randella | September 13, 2008, 3:43 am 3:43 am
I am led to believe that some of the participants of this forum are racist else, there is no reason to belittle Obama and the way he speaks. Perhaps, these people should also open their ears and listen. Or maybe, they are just as war-crazy as Bush-McCain-Palin.
Posted by: Pam | September 13, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am
Several German Communist Party members emigrated from Germany and ended up teaching at Columbia University (and several elsewhere in the States and Britain, of course) in the 1930s. From what I remember, mostly in the social sciences. That would explain a lot.
I’m amazed at the dismissive attitude towards Christian missionaries. Many of these people were friends of my mother and grandmother. They were good, decent people. But, since they are Christians, it’s like there’s some sort of Leftist fear that they might actually *gasp* speak of Jesus and God to other people while doing their work! Oh the horror!
So, what we get is something that makes me feel uncomfortable from the Peace Corps on up. A sectarian, government-run program that smacks of Socialism from root to twig.
There has been a big push to get kids in school to do community service. Some do a lot, a lot do nothing…but get the credit hours anyway.
Sounds like Obama wants to steer us towards a system where everybody is forced into public service, each according to his abilities-if you get my drift, and real volunteerism is gone. McCain supports the general idea of service, but doesn’t want the Government to control it or force people to do it.
But to be against it makes one sound like a meanie, misanthropic, selfish jerk so guilt alone would work. Kind of like saying bad things about Obama makes one a racist-so shut up…or else face ostracism by your family and acquaintances, and the self-appointed PC police, and a pink slip from your employer.
Personally, I would favor a Civilian Conservation Corps where young people can VOLUNTEER to work for minimum wage to earn a few bucks and gain work experience, and the unemployed and those on welfare MUST work for their benefits. But, it must be definite, meaningful work-not the vagaries that we get along the lines of ‘community organizing’.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | September 14, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
Asking the right question.
As one foolish military veteran I have advocated on-and-off for 30-yeears a particular model, originally a bill in the House: HR 1730/1979, HR 2230/1981 which would have replaced the Selective Service System with a National Service System.
It’s key service-learning approach was to maintain voluntary service, but change the registration requirement to age 17, for both females and males, encourage dialogue in families, friends, and if in school, in school.
At 18 require feedback in the form of yes, no, or maybe to age 23, providing a cost-effective way of bring this debate to each new generation, and starting youth exploration of voluntary service be it community or military, and what degree and form of part-time or full-time service they are willing to sign up for.
This catalyst would provide a year-after-year framework at a cost in the low millions, but will take the public will of Congress, and the next President to make it happen.
Like so many of my efforts, Richard and Judy, choose in the Presidential Candidate Forum not to use my question for the candidates, like everybody during the last 30 years they have left me to “do it yourself”.
Service-Learning, Youth Service, Adult Volunteerism, and Retired Adult Volunteerism is all part of the mix, along with non-profits, (over 1 million), churches, local, state, and federal programs are part of the mix.
Technology is also a key element of the mix, be it communication and organizing, the cell phone and Internet will provide tremendous leverage in efficiency, and accountability, and one can dream about efforts related to increasing energy efficiency, education, macro-economic impact, and from gangs to terrorist, local, national, and international security and social development.
Peter P Jesella
Posted by: Peter Jesella | September 14, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am