Members of ‘Fringe’ Alaskan Independence Party Incorrectly Say Palin Was a Member in 90s; McCain Camp and Alaska Division of Elections Deny Charge*
The campaign of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., likes to herald the independence of its new running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she and her husband were once member of their party, which, since the 1970s, has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United State.
And while McCain’s motto — as seen in a new TV ad — is "Country First," the AIP’s motto is the exact opposite — "Alaska First — Alaska Always."
After refraining from commenting on the charge for a day, the McCain campaign on Tuesday asserted that Palin was never a member of the AIP, and
Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, told ABC News on Monday that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.
This, it should be noted, does not square with official records.
Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, tells ABC News that regardless of the impression given to members of the Alaskan Independence Party, "Gov. Sarah Palin first registered to vote in the state in May 1982 as a Republican, and she has not changed her party affiliate with the Division of Elections since that time."
Clark on Tuesday night said that she had been mistaken.
But for whatever reason, Clark thought that in 1994 Palin was a kindred spirit.
"We are a state’s rights party," says Clark, a self-employed goldminer. The AIP has "a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law."
She says it’s not accurate to describe the party as secessionist — they just want a vote, she says, adding that the members of the AIP hold different opinions on what Alaska should be.
"My own separate opinion as an individual is that we should be an independent nation," Clark says. Others in the AIP "believe that being a commonwealth would be a good avenue to follow." Some advocate statehood — but a fuller statehood than exists now.
She doesn’t know what Palin’s position was.
"It never came up in conversation," Clark recalls. "But …our platform was right under her nose."
Earlier this year, Palin sent a video message to the AIP for its annual convention, where AIP vice chair George Clark told the small crowd that Palin "was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town –- that was a non-partisan job. But you get along to go along -– she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that. She also had about an 80 percent approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership."
A day after ABC News requested a response from Palin as to whether she was ever a member of the AIP, McCain campain spox Brian Rogers told ABC News that Clark’s "allegations are false."
"Governor Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982," Rogers says, providing voter registration documentation showing her to be a Republican. "As you know, if she changed her registration, there would have been some record of it. There isn’t."
Rogers says that Palin didn’t attend the AIP convention in 1994, "but she visited them when they had their convention in Wasilla in 2000 as a courtesy since she was mayor."
When asked if Palin ever identified herself as a member of the AIP, Rogers said, "No, she’s a lifelong Republican."
The AIP platform states that the purpose of the party is to "seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution … To prohibit all bureaucratic regulations and judicial rulings purporting to have the effect of law, except that which shall be approved by the elected legislature … To support the privatization of government services …”
Walter Hickel, a former Republican governor, was elected to the governorship in 1990 as an AIP member — the third-largest party in Alaska — with a plurality vote of 38.8%. A Seattle Post-Intelligencer story that year said that "Hickel is running with the Alaska Independence Party, a fringe group advocating that the 49th state declare itself a sovereign nation. But he’s not a separatist; he’s an opportunist: the Independence Party was the only 11th-hour ticket to the general election."
Hickel returned to the Republican Party in 1994; he endorsed Palin in her gubernatorial run in 2006. Subsequent AIP gubernatorial candidates did not fare as well as did Hickel, garnering less than 2 percent of the vote.
Lynette Clark says that Palin is "a fine individual. She’s forthright and she puts Alaska first."
She is not a fan of McCain.
"I can’t understand why in God’s name she has aligned herself with a candidate who opposes the development of our republic and Alaska’s resource wealth," Clark says.
- jpt
* This post has been updated one day later, after the McCain campaign responded, and again after
Fenumiai returned several calls for comment. And then, once again, after Clark rescinded her assertion that Gov. Palin had been a member of the AIP.
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Dan Quale truly appears to have been a pretty brilliant pick in comparison.
McCain, let’s call the whole thing of.
You’re very clearly getting very old.
Posted by: USA First | September 1, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
And that she recently address their convention
Posted by: Kelly | September 1, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
AIP sounds like a real right wing nut organization. Palin certainly brings a lot of color to the Republican campaign. What next?
Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
The Sarah Palin situation is rapidly going down hill real fast. James Carville (on CNN) saying that the Republicans need to “plug the leaks in the levee before it burst”. This is reflecting bad on McCain, on Palin and on teh Republican Party big time. If this the kind of decision making we can expect from John McCain, we are in for a time. If he gets elected, I think the word impeachment may be coming up. Now, on CNN they are talking to Republican spin control and the spin is spinning like an F5 tornado. Defensive is the word of the day, including the trooper issue and the indiscretion discussed in other blogs.
Posted by: Nick | September 1, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Great!! Let her be Veep of Alaska!!
Disaster averted people, she never had any intention of being veep of the US… I shutter to think that may be she could have but as the vetting of Governer Palin continues I think we may just avoid this massive travisty.
Posted by: No Palin no McCain no way | September 1, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Chek out the AIP website, it has a nice “Alaska first” motto.
This is also consistent with early comments by Palin that her pick as VP would advance Alaskan interests.
And it’s simply a disaster for the GOp candidacy.
I mean, a secessionist on the ticket for Lincoln’s party?
Country first – which one, USA or independent Alaska?
Posted by: Andre | September 1, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Yup, Yup wouldn’t surprise me. She made a video to be played at their 2008 Convention too. What else don’t we know. Stevens 527 group too.
Good overall pick. McCain has a good eye, one meeting to decide, Soulmate too.
Wonder what those peole who gave 10 million are thinkig?
Posted by: Thinking | September 1, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
I don’t think Carville was using the politically correct analogy on that one. RE: “Plug the leaks in the levee before it bursts”.
Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Hahahahahahaha. I ask again: Did the old geezer vet this girl?
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Kevin – No, he didn’t have the objectivity to vet as he put it, his soulmate.
Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Wow…has this been covered on TV? I haven’t seen anything on it on ABC (or other channels).
Palin is a fringe N U T J O B. And they thought they would win Hillary voters with her???? Maybe McCain took some of his wife’s stolen pain meds because he sure as hell isn’t thinking straight.
Posted by: Kate | September 1, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Well, this does well to answer why Palin endangered the life of her unborn-child to fly 8hrs home to alaska after her water broke… I see no other reason why she wouldn’t have just gone to a texan hospital and avoid any endangerment. And it helps explain why she hasn’t very involved on the national level or showed much interest in Iraq…
Alaska first indeed
Posted by: Monte | September 1, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
This isn’t bias. This is what you get for not vetting the women. Everysay something new comes out about Palin that’s damging to the campiagn.
Posted by: Vanessa | September 1, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Who cares if she believes Alaska (and its oil) should be its own country? John McCain was a POW!
Posted by: Rick | September 1, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
The AP reported that the old geezer did not even conduct an FBI background check. Isn’t that illegal? Even regular security jobs coduct FBI background checks. How can McCain make a VP pick without vetting her? This is incredible!
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Obama’s campaign is probably popping champagne right now. McCain should thank goodness for Gustav. The incompetence of this McCain campaign is just mind boggling.
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
They are quickly becoming America’s top comedy team!! Palin delivers the zingers ala Lucielle Ball and John Mcsame deadpans like Ricky Ricardo. You gotta love them Republicans. I hope Fox picks them up this fall after the election.
Posted by: Nj | September 1, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Rick
Lol. Have you noticed that the Republican bloggers have taken cover? Where are they now?
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
It’s not wrong that she was an independent.
It’s that she’s running to be VPOTUS, when she used to believe she’d be better off out of the US.
Who’s un-american now?
Posted by: Andrux | September 1, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Where are the Palin lovers? Where are ye hiding? This woman will go down as the worst pick in Presidential history.
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Mic–she also holds…um a bachelor’s degree in communications from U of Idaho–her 3rd college (including junior college), a beauty pageant win for “Miss Congeniality”, a history of scandals (troopergate is actually the second major scandal, there was a group trying to recall her as mayor under scandal too), and fewer than 2 years experience as governor of the third least populous state. Uh, not really a winner in my book.
Note that ANY of the Republican primary candidates would have beaten this resume hands down, as well as a bunch of Republican women like Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Choosing Palin was totally idiotic, and only reflects irrational lack-of-planning (or maybe those were the Republican virtues you think her nomination reflects).
Posted by: Kate | September 1, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
It is very interesting how rabidly scared the Democrats and press are of Palin. They have given up promoting Obama and grabbing in fear at any bit of potential mud they can find on Palin. (The press has done more investigating of Palin in the last 3 days than they have done of Obama in the last 4 years.)
Palin is the type of out-of-the-mold politician who happens every once in a while, that if she gets into office will be read about generations from now in the history books, along with Lincoln, Roosevelt and other legendary politicians.
The underdog vs. the establishment; David vs. Goliath, the woman taking on the men Washington insiders.
Posted by: Sally J. | September 1, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
I feel sorry for McCain. He’s basically a good guy who I just happen to disagree with on many issues, and though I support Obama I don’t think he deserves all this stuff pouring out of Palin’s closet. The “Bridge to nowhere” lie in itself would have brought down better politicians than her. And now this.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | September 1, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
McCain = Bush
Palin = Brownie
“you’re doing a heck of a job Brownie”
said Bush to the head of FEMA during Katrina.
WAKE UP AMERICA!
Posted by: Alabama | September 1, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
I am a republican, life-long for that matter.
I am deeply embarrased by the way McCain made this VP choice.
A woman he met once for 15 minutes at a govenors meeting just before offering her the VP slot. A woman he now calls his partner and soulmate. This is getting weirder by the day, reminds me of Bush and Putin. McCain I am a woman and cannot vote for you.Your behavior is reckless and your judgement in doubt. I will have to vote for the Democrat this year I watched both of them on 60 minutes last sunday and I liked what I saw and heard. In your first real test of what you would do as president, you failed.
Posted by: Linda | September 1, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Loose Cannon McLost has shot himself in the foot once again with his reckless pick of an unknown, unvetted, unprepared Sarah Palin for VP.
What, another Repub ‘Family Values’ hypocrisy eruption?
HARD TO BELIEVE.
NOT.
Posted by: 08AMA ALL THE WAY! | September 1, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
We still don’t know anything about this woman, and I’m very sure, if this had been OBAMA, most of you guys would have different things to say…Palin, I’m sure, she’s a fine individual, but because she’s NEW, yes, we would like to know EVERYTHING about her, the good and the bad….She knows what she’s getting into when she took the VP role, this is POLITICS and it’s dirty…People will dig up EVERYTHING about her…EVVVVERYTHING about her…So, my question is with McCain just meeting her ONCE, is this a good decision..Only time will tell…..
I’m not one to judge this woman, but I’d like to find his reasoning behind it, why, how, what…?
We shall see in the times to come how she holds up…
Posted by: Duwee | September 1, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Well, it seems McCain’s gut decision for Palin is already coming to haunt him. Remember McGovern and Eagleton. Will Palin last as long?
McCain’s choice of Palin doesn’t demonstrate his “maverick” status. If he were a maverick, he would have taken on his party and nominated Leiberman. Palin only confirms McCain as a typical Rovian conservative.
“Gut” decisions like his choice of Palin should — must — raise concerns about McCain’s ability to deal with Iran or Russia. Gut decisions won’t cut it in the complicated, high-pressure world.
McCain: you just lost it.
Posted by: everyman | September 1, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Sally J.
We are no longer promoting Obama because with this stupid pick McCain made, we smell blood in the water. The easiest way to win this election is to destroy McCain with his biggest mistake since he cheat on his wife. We smell blood. We will exploit it.
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
SallyJ:
Lincoln, Roosevelt, Palin.
that sound right to you?
this is a joke, a meltdown of a VP pick, and I wonder if Romney’s delegates are having second thoughts about her nomination…
Posted by: Andrux | September 1, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Sounds anti-American to me…
I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” – Joe Vogler, founder of the Alaskan Independence Party
Posted by: blakeC | September 1, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I guess America is starting to see why Senator McCain was 895 out of 899 in his graduating class.
What a dope! He makes Bush look like a genius!
Posted by: Person of Weakness (POW) | September 1, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
You think Obama’s resume is better. A resume that is even thinner. Palin has accomplished much. Obama can’t point to a single item where he said something had has something to back it up. Miss Congeniality is actually a plus because it means that she is personable. Education. I’m not one to smear anyone’s education and it was journalism. Troopergate is not even a true scandal considering nobody has proven anybody. Plus I don’t care why she fired the guy. He was tazering his kid. He belongs in jail. This is another point that shows how some people would rather protect the villain than the victim. Plus, people don’t really care about scandals or more people would be scared about Wright, Rezko, and Ayers. Proven scandals.
Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
OMG. What more will come out?
Almost Recalled As Mayor…
Directed Fundraising For Indicted Senator’s 527…
Troopergate Scandal…
Calls Iraq A War For Oil…
Admits She Hasn’t ‘Really Focused On Iraq’…
Alaska National Guard General: Palin Plays No Role In National Defense…
17 Year-Old Daughter Pregnant…
And now: a former member of a Secessionist Party.
And this is just the beginning?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 1, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
I am a republican, life-long for that matter.
I am deeply embarrased by the way McCain made this VP choice.
A woman he met once for 15 minutes at a govenors meeting just before offering her the VP slot. A woman he now calls his partner and soulmate. This is getting weirder by the day, reminds me of Bush and Putin. McCain I am a woman and cannot vote for you.Your behavior is reckless and your judgement in doubt. I will have to vote for the Democrat this year I watched both of them on 60 minutes last sunday and I liked what I saw and heard. In your first real test of what you would do as president, you failed.
Posted by: Linda | September 1, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
“Palin has accomplished much”
She sure has, but not for the right reasons.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 1, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Just like she joined the Republican Party when she first ran for mayor of Wasilla, now she joins the Country First Party with McCain when she runs for VP. :-)
Posted by: Julian | September 1, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Well…I gotta admit…she really is a reformer! She wants to reform America back to 49 states.
Posted by: Rick | September 1, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Sarah Palin, the media fears you. In two days, they have spent more time investigating you than with Obama and Biden combined. Might they have something to fear? A women who is self sufficient is hard for the media to swallow. Look what happened to Hillary. Hang in there, Sarah. You have a lot of people rooting for you. Congratulations to your daughter and to you as a new grandmother.
Posted by: JeannieC12 | September 1, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
The Republican convention theme is “Country First.” Which one?
Posted by: Harry | September 1, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
I guess this is what the Republicans mean by “reduce the size of government!”
One state at a time…
Posted by: Rick | September 1, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
How would you know her reasons?
Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Why does Sarah Palin hate the Unites States of America? If she doesn’t want to be a part of the U.S., she’s welcome to move somewhere else.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | September 1, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
HER DAUGHTER IS PREGNANT? HOLD THE PRESS! I was hoping for more minor things to come out about her like she has ties to home-grown terrorist or she spent 20 years in a black liberation church or her husband hates this country or she did cocaine. But this is major.
Posted by: Carrie | September 1, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Did any of Sarah’s friends in this group blow up buildings?
Posted by: Ted | September 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
I am so impressed that finally a woman has been chosen to be a running mate for the republican party. Women are by far ready to be taken seriously. By the way, how many men have ran for or ran this country that really weren’t exactly intlligent enough to do so. I think
Posted by: labelsod | September 1, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
I get the feeling that this is only the beginning. There are bound to be more skeletons in this lady’s closet. I feel bad for the far-righters. They’ve been bamboozled.
Posted by: JimmyTMac | September 1, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Sally,
you are right. I am very scared of Sarah Palin. If she stays on, and McCain wins, she will be our President. If that doesn’t frighten you, then you aren’t thinking hard enough.
Posted by: Ivan | September 1, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
C’mon, this comes as no surprise.
Palin, like McCain, is really an Independent masquerading as a Republican. She loves her State, her home and I doubt she or anyone else ever wouldv’e imagined she’d be sitting where she is today. What makes her a good match for McCain is her reformist streak and her willingness to stand up to the Republicans and the oil industry.
There are a number of young politicians
on the rise in both the Democratic and Republican party- Palin and Jindal being two excellent examples in the Republican party and the most obvious in the Democratic party. None of these three are seasoned veterans of Washington nor have , or could have, the accomplishments of a Biden or McCain. In fact of the three, Obama has probably the least in regards to accomplishments on his resume. These three, regardless, do not represent your politics as usual and the Democrats have opted to take the chance and place one of their younger, less experienced but highly gifted Obama and placed him on the top of the ticket. The fact that McCain would opt to take one of the rising stars in the Republican party and put her on the bottom of the ticket should not even be an issue given Obama’s presence as the Presidential nominee. The only think I think McCain could be faulted on here and which poses risk for his choice is that in Obama’s case we’ve had 18 months of a strategically designed campaign under the tutelage of David Axelrod, to get to know him and to have been exposed to Axelrod’s attempts to see him as Presidential. In McCain’s case he brought out an equally gifted up and coming politician with little time for us to get familiar with her or to have the spinmeisters convince us she could be Presidential. Palin is highly gifted, an independent and reformist at heart, fearless in her ability to take on corruption within her own party or special interests like the oil industry. She is a strong public servant who puts the people of Alaska first. The trashing that she is receiving right now is to be expected and you can guarantee the Obama camp is looking for any piece of dirt to put into the mainstream media to spin it to tdistract us from her record. The one thing that does surprise me though about Palin , and is mentioned in this article, is that I very much doubt she was a strong McCain supporter and in fact if we were to find out that she was leaning Obama that would not surprise me. Again, this is very much an independent politician who really represents and has the record that Obama promises us. If it were not for her strong conservative stance on social issues an Obama/Palin ticket wouldn’t be hard to imagine. In regards to social issues though, the first time as Governor that she used her veto power was ensure that the right to extend medical benefits to domestic partners would not be taken away.
Posted by: alpaig52 | September 1, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
USA Today Gallup 50/43
CBS 48/40
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 1, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Mic,
This isn’t about her being an independent, its about her being a former member and what looks to be a supporter of a party that wants Alaska to leave the union. Wanting to break away from the united states is not exactly what most americans look for in a vice president…
JeannieC12,
The media doesn’t fear Palin, they just don’t know anything about her… They have had months to investigate obama, and Biden has been in the spot light for years; there is not much left to dig up on those two… Palin however, is a complete unknown, i would say a high majority of the country didn’t even know who the hell she was before news stories first hit that she was a possible choice as McCain’s VP… aside from the alaskan media, the national media has never had a reason to research her so they are trying to find out everything they can. She’s like an untapped source of news
Posted by: Monte | September 1, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Hot news!
Sarah Palin’s husband, Todd, was arrested for DUI back in back in 1986.
It occurred about seven years after Obama’s last use of cocaine, to the best of our knowledge, and five years after his last use of marijuana.
Posted by: Sally J. | September 1, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
“Did any of Sarah’s friends in this group blow up buildings?”
Who knows. This is only day three…
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 1, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Had she not called Hillary a whiner during the primary she might still deserve a place on the ticket for picking up PUMAs. But she did.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | September 1, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
The real story here is not Palin, but McDope’s CHOICE of Palin.
THIS IS WHAT LOOSE CANNONS DO.
THEY SINK THEIR OWN SHIPS.
He wants to be PRESIDENT?!?!
YOU MUST BE KIDDING.
Posted by: 08AMA ALL THE WAY! | September 1, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
It’s laughable that people are debating based on scandals when all four of them have scandals. People, start debating on policies. Things that will actually effect you.
Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
I would say that unless she immediately repudiates her AIP [interesting pronounced “APE”? affiliations, not just being a friend of a friend or sitting on a board with a former AIP member she should be fired.
1. I don’t know where her loyalties lie.
2. AIP seems to put a lot of stock in the UN Charter and that sounds like world government with a sovereign province of Alaska or something. Heck, just let her explain what AIP is and why she left.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | September 1, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
You really can’t make this stuff up. McCain is going to have to secede this nut from the ticket.
Posted by: Allen | September 1, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
I have been asking and I will ask again.
Who vetted Mrs Palin?
Is it true McCain met her only once before?
IF McCain’s first major decision is any indication of his fitness to be POTUS then I can state here that McCain is not fit to be President of my country.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | September 1, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
I give her 2 weeks before she resigns for the “good of the party.” Dems will be accused of sexism etc. McCain wants the women vote so bad he will make her the sacrificial lamb.”Look what these liberals have put this poor woman through because they were afraid of her.” blah blah blah.I smell Rove all over this nomination.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 1, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
McCain has lost my vote. He’s an old man, and I cannot vote for an old man who could die in office with this vp. He would leave the presidency to this woman who has no experience leading anything well – not even her own family. I applaud her anti-abortion views and the evidence of that in her life, but that alone does not a president make. She apparently has a long history of poor decision making – and now McCain is apparently taking the same back woods trail.
Posted by: disappionted | September 1, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
these past few days have been so weird. just weird. Mccain just handed over the election.
Obama Biden 08
Posted by: voter in pa | September 1, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
ElodieStClair,
“Why does Sarah Palin hate the Unites States of America? If she doesn’t want to be a part of the U.S., she’s welcome to move somewhere else.”
She is leaving, to the independent republic of Alaska.
It’s like moving to canada accept you don’t have to pack your bags and you get to stay close to the oil
Posted by: Monte | September 1, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
The democrats think all Republicans are fools. The democrat controlled congress has a lower approval rating than the President. The democrats want to raise taxes. The few states that have negative population growth are among the most liberal states in the country. Why is this? People are leaving those states because they can’t afford the taxes.
Trig is hers.
Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Palin and Brownee:
This is what the Republicans do..
They put people in charge that don’t know the JOB.
WHAT DOES A VICE PRESIDENT DO McCAIN??
NO WHAT DOES A PRESIDENT DO McCAIN..
ANSWER: APPOINT PEOPLE THAT CAN DO THE JOB.
NOT PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO ASK WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING.
Posted by: Underdog | September 1, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
You guys are really are scared of her? Aren’t you.. Compared to who Obama has been linked to, Palin has nothing to be afraid of. Obama has racist Wright, Slum lord Tony Rezko, Terrorist William Ayers…
Posted by: CaptJamesTKirk | September 1, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Would McCain have picked a man with the same credentials? I think not.
Posted by: Teresa | September 1, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Not even President and already embroidered in Troop Gate, family scandal, anti-American past and hiring lawyers. Not good judgment in my view. This is what you get with McCain, more of the same. How can you be tough on corruption if you are part of the corruption? Overtime the enthusiasm will wane as republicans realize McCain made a rash judgment in picking Palin. Right now the Republicans think all of the “dumb” disgruntled Hillary voters are just going to lay down for a stunt like this.
Posted by: Perspective | September 1, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
I’m going to bow out of this site. People are too hypocritical on this site, a few liars, and can’t debate on anything that truly matters: POLICIES
Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
This is so fun! I don’t even have to pick up Star Magazine anymore. I can just follow the election and get all the bizarro news. He picked a breastfeeding secessionist with a pregnant teenage daughter for a running mate? I don’t trust him anymore!
Posted by: missykitty | September 1, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Heck of a pick McCain!
I read McCain wanted Liberman, but Rove and the GOPers wanted Palin. Why? to sabatoge his campaign?
Or just to get press, figuring negative press is better than no press at all?
Posted by: Lois | September 1, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
These developments suggest that Palin was chosen by McCain’s camp as a desperate and cynical attempt to sway women voters.
Posted by: worldsam | September 1, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
I would like Palin or somebody with AIP to explain this part of their platform:
To support the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts, according to their conscience.
To support “Jobs for Alaskans…First!”
1. Is this what Sarah believed/believes
2. Regarding judges, does this mean that a case before the judge will get to types of interpretation — the facts of the case and whether the law should exist.
So would she want Supreme Court justices who would essentially make law or interpret law?
I would find it hard to believe that she disavows this as virtually everything else is something she believes.
McCain – Palin ’08
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | September 1, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
All the blame goes to McCain, he is one impulsive and reckless old geezer.
Posted by: Jude | September 1, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
I’m truly scared. This woman will run our country if the old guy can’t- Can you imagine? A bachelor’s degree in journalism and oh yea as McCain always says, she was involved with the PTA. Gives me lots of confidence. Are we going from bad to worse?
Posted by: Linda | September 1, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Mic; It’s not the site, its that people are sick of Elizabeth Hasselbeck wannabes.
Posted by: Perspective | September 1, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
I don’t see this as a problem. If Palin is asked about this, she can simply turn this as her strength — I am a strong woman with my own opinion, and I am for party that is clean and for people! McCain camp can actually turn this into a positive talking point: Palin is the best party outsider, she acts on her conviction and belief not party ideology.
Posted by: amy | September 1, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
People bear in mind that Palin stated that her pick will advance the interest of Alaska. This is a joke, the world is laughing at us now. McCain and his campaign did not vet this lady and have again demonstrated poor judgment.
-Teen pregnancy
-husband charged with DUI. Do we know if he had caused any injury to anyone under his influence?
-corruption charge.
This levee (Vice presidential pick) is leaking and we will know soon if it is broken.
May God bless the people of Louisiana in this hour of need and may God bless Barack Obama and give him the strength and courage to serve this country well, when “we” the people elect him.
Posted by: Dorrett | September 1, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
I cannot believe this, AMERICANS the VP PICK IS SLAP in OUR FACES! Doesn’t matter if your are a woman or man, McCain made this pick just to win the election and not lead this country, I was on the fence about this election, NOT ANY LONGER THIS INDEPENDENT HAS MAD HER CHOICE OBAMA OR NO ONE!
Posted by: MISS Un-Congeniality | September 1, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
McCain is a disgrace! He should just drop out and let the GOP nominate someone else.
Posted by: Boston Guy | September 1, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
she is a family values fraud and underinvestigation for abuse of power. she is unfit to be a heartbeat from the presidency!
Posted by: michaelinphilly | September 1, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Right Stuff: Nobody on this site really cares what anybody on this site says. Everyone likes their candidate and it does not matter what anyone else says. It would take one of the presidential candidates to really blow up or for one of the candidates to be obviously stronger in the debates.
Posted by: C | September 1, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Saran Palin needs to practice what she preaches. Strong family values. Any mother with strong family values wouldn’t think twice about putting their career on hold at the very least for the first year of her special needs child. And, to add the cherry on top her 17 year old is now pregnant. Hello, Gov. Palin your kids need you more then America. This VP pick is definetly questionable.
Posted by: Alex | September 1, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
The PTA is a good preparation for dealing with the KGB.
Go MacCain
Posted by: Jude | September 1, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
She’s lucky they didn’t succeed. Bush would have attacked Alaska because they have oil!
Posted by: steve | September 1, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
If McCain vetted her and still picked her, he has terrible judgment. Although evn worse judgment would be if he did not vet her, which I am starting to believe. I think Palin may be the second coming of Harriet Miers.
Posted by: Julia | September 1, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
McCain — put the country first and get rid of this loser!!! Do it now so that the Republican Convention can legally nominate the VP. How about Kay Bailey Hutchison? (Oh, not young enough for you?)
Posted by: Sally in Dallas | September 1, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
All this debating about Palin is good.I am wondering how many of you debaters will actually vote.Let’s make sure we all vote on November 4th.That is the best place to express your opinion.
Posted by: simplypeople | September 1, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Put her career on hold for her kids? Sure, that’s the wimp’s answer to life. A real parent would rather make a better world for her kids, and take care of them at the same time. Are you people jealous that she can do both? Her 19 year old daughter is pregnant? Big woop. That’s what happens to real people in the world,… its called life, and sometimes kids make stupid mistakes,… hey, you people re-elected both Clinton and Bush after seeing what idiots they were first hand. Maybe we should take away your rights to vote until you learn your lesson.
Posted by: Capt D | September 1, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
C you are wrong:
I care very much about the issues.
One of the issue is:
Will the next President make good choices?
**YOU WOULD BE A GOOD PRESIDENT ‘C’ IF YOU CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS OF APPOINTED PERSONNEL.***
BROWNEE WAS NOT ONE
RICE WAS NOT ONE
RUMSFIELD WAS NOT ONE
CHENEY WAS NOT ONE
PALIN WAS NOT ONE
Posted by: Underdog | September 1, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
mccain should be a commedian—what is his next laugh—wow that guy is dumb—and with all the qualified people around his—guess he had to pick someone dumber than he is.
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Get a grip, Alex! Are you saying that women can’t handle motherhood and VP at the same time?! What kind of misogynistic rhetoric are you spouting? Don’t go there – we women can do it all, sir! Welcome to the 21st Century!
Posted by: Beckie | September 1, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
There’s a real “Game Changer” for you. She won’t last the week.
Posted by: Charles | September 1, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Lets see ABC, you bring up the point of Palins independent spirit. Ok fair. I too think the federal government oversteps its bounds from time to time as most of us do. Why not then go into Obamas past with Ayers? The “stuff” is out there and if there is nothing to it then get someone to look into it and put a rest to it. And while your are at it look at the wheeling and dealing between Resco, Obama and the guy that lent Resco the money about the time Resco and Obama bought adjacent lots- a time when Resco was broke. Up to the challenge? I won’t hold my breath.
Posted by: david | September 1, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
The first executive decision a Presidential candidate makes is in choosing his running mate. McCain has shown horrible judgment here, picking a totally unvetted candidate with severe personal skeletons in her closet. It is too late now, he has to back her as far as he can or face a horrible blow-out election defeat. The AIP data is the worst of all possible worlds- her heart isn’t even with the Republican party!
Posted by: Dendroica | September 1, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
OH MY LORD
Imagine if he ask making decisions for the country instead of just his campaign!
Posted by: Jason | September 1, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
I can’t imagine how low people can go to attack Palin, to the degree saying she faked her pregnancy. And I notice quite a few people who spread this rumor are male — do you know anything about pregnancy? I have a friend who was 7 month pregnant and went to a job interview without letting anybody know She got the job, and she told me that she had to conceal her pregnancy to get it.
The fact Palin did not announce her pregnancy until late in her term may well be that she did not want people to question her working capacity — she is a great woman with strong work ethics.
I am so disgusted by those who spread the rumor. Shame on you!!!
Posted by: amy | September 1, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
mccain should be a commedian—what is his next laugh—wow that guy is dumb—and with all the qualified people around his—guess he had to pick someone dumber than he is.
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
I am a republican, life-long for that matter.
I am deeply embarrased by the way McCain made this VP choice.
A woman he met once for 15 minutes at a govenors meeting just before offering her the VP slot. A woman he now calls his partner and soulmate. This is getting weirder by the day, reminds me of Bush and Putin. McCain I am a woman and cannot vote for you.Your behavior is reckless and your judgement in doubt. I will have to vote for the Democrat this year I watched both of them on 60 minutes last sunday and I liked what I saw and heard. In your first real test of what you would do as president, you failed.
Posted by: Linda | September 1, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Bristol is not 5 months pregnant. Its just a cover-up to hide the fact that she is Trig’s mom. The Palin’s pulled Bristol out of school for 5 to 6 months because of an extended case of “mono” – yeah right. In a few weeks they will say that Bristol mis-carried.
Has anyone else seen this:
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4628/sarahpalinla4.png
Posted by: Joe | September 1, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
If it was truly such a horrible decision… why is the republican base so fired up about her? Hmmm and before you put some BS statement… it’s because she has the ability to connect with the average american and because she holds strong republican values which she has demonstrated through her actions. Actions speak louder than words. All I’ve seen from Obama is words.
Posted by: C | September 1, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Given the REAL history Palin had on the Bridge to Nowhere (FOR it before she was against it), I’d say it was a no-brainer that she’s an ALASKA FIRST, ALASKA ALWAYS pork-loving kind of politician. I mean the woman was one of the original incorporators of Ted Stevens political group, “Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc.”
Posted by: Jackie | September 1, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
John McCain was formally rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising “poor judgment” in the Keating 5 Case, and he can be rebuked again for listening to Rove and the GOPer’s when they told him to pick this wacko.
Is the GOP doing this on purpose to McCain?
Posted by: mom24 | September 1, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
I have quite a few friends who are determined to vote for McCain-Palin after these series of smear campaign against her. They decided not to vote initially.
For all those who are laughing at her, and the MSM who tried the best to dig up dirt, this will only backfire.
Palin has something that Obama-Biden can never have: she is a real person, she has her flaws, and she deals with it her own way. She has a complete life, with a loving husband. Authenticity — this is what she offers.
Posted by: amy | September 1, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
McCain put himself and his own election ahead of the country…period.
and these issues don’t even touch on the big issue…
she knows nothing or close to anything that you would need to know to be the leader of the free world …
it’s not called experience …it’s called knowledge…
and you need it
issues of afghanistan pakistan india
trade agreements with China and India
the members of Nato
who is on the list of the european unions
the historical relevance of Bush’s signing statement infringements
the historical knowledge of our countries conflicts
global warming and trade
I mean the list goes on and ano and on
of what this woman does not know
Posted by: dl | September 1, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
how can anyone take mccain seriously–he has to be a embarasment to the party.
talk about bad decisions—but then again when was mccain ever in touch
go mcdummy the entertainment is great..
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Joe, I don’t think you know much about pregnancy. Half of my friends who have been pregnant did not really show till the end of their 5th month and acquaintances were not sure they were pregnant until the 6th month.
Posted by: C | September 1, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
you know, I’m totally convinced now that he picked Palin because she has a nice figure and that’s it! because this is just trailing off into bizzaro world!
Posted by: MARK | September 1, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
I agree with mic . Stick to policy . there is something afoot here . I do doubt that the repubs would leave such an open sore to fester for nothing .
Posted by: Onan | September 1, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Oh, I get it, Palin will protect Alaska:
If Alaska, is to seperate from the U.S.
Palin will get her shotgun and fight Russia, North Korea and China all by her BAD SELF..
MRS. SHAFT..
Posted by: Underdog | September 1, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Palin is a joke. Period.
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
JOHN MCCAIN FOR ALASKA!
Posted by: Hunter | September 1, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Life long republican here.
Someone in the party likes her. They generated 10 million for the campaign and now have Dobson endorsing the ticket.
But that someone isn’t me. I’m less than impressed with the decision making.
I can’t believe it, but I’m actually going to vote democrat.
I won’t support this insanity.
Posted by: Marcella | September 1, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
you know, I’m totally convinced now that he picked Palin because she has a nice figure and that’s it! because this is just trailing off into bizzaro world!
Posted by: MARK | September 1, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
This VP pick seems like one big set up. McCain can’t be this stupid! Oh wait, maybe……
Posted by: Boston Guy | September 1, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Sarah Palin is like a levee in a hurricane. This levee is leaking water and is about to collapse. The McCain campaign has to aggressively end this bleeding or else there campaign will die in the same week they have their convention. Wow.
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
amy
she is not knowledgeable enough
think about where we are in the world
Mccain isn’t smart enough…
never mind this woman who doesn’t believe in science.
it was a matter of days where everything flowed out
these smear tactics that you talk about are just issues of hypocrisy for the most part with her…
they don’t even touch on the sheer massive amount of knowledge that SHE DOES NOT HAVE that Obama and Biden and a bit of mccain have…
that makes them eligible to be commander in chief and the leader of the free world
this woman is the worst VP choice not only in our history…
but she may be one of the worst in international history
on top of all of this go listen to her giggle away while that DJ trashes some other woman in Alaskan govt. that she didn’t like…as he degrades the woman’s abilty to be a mother and calls the woman a b!t(h and says trashes the woman’s weight..
and Ms Palin laughs along like a “heather” from some jr. high click.
it is embarrassing that mccain would sell out his ethics and his country for this woman to get him elected.
sad day in america.
Posted by: dl | September 1, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
I thing Sarah running for VP is her secret plan to put the rest of the 49 states under ALASKA FIRST POWER!
Posted by: Laura Allen Finlay | September 1, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Palin protecting Alaska:
Yes this is the difference between her experience of being the governor of Alaska and being in the Senate, dealing with local issues/dealing with national and international issues.
Obama is ready
Palin should be coaching teenage hockey games.
Posted by: Underdog | September 1, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
wonder how romney and huckabee feel being passed over for a dipsy twit.
guess mccain is not welcome in their circle—he is too dumb
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
I thing Sarah running for VP is her secret plan to put the rest of the 49 states under ALASKA FIRST POWER!
Posted by: Mom of 3 | September 1, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Ailin/Palin O8
Posted by: Carla | September 1, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
I thought the faking pregancy comments were rude. Then I looked at the links and saw the photos. OMG
What is the republican party doing?
Posted by: Amy | September 1, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
McCain spent today at a disaster relief agency – I wonder if he got any help there.
Posted by: ShockNAwe | September 1, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
I think the only reason she was picked was to take all of the media attenion away from Obama’s speech.
Within a few weeks she’ll be “reconsidering” her acceptance, claiming that she wants to spend more time with her family and first grandchild. Then the real VP will step forward.
Posted by: Daisy | September 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Image Sarah Palin in talks with Moamer Kadhafi, Vladimir Putin…
ALASKA FIRST!
Posted by: hertz | September 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Sally in Dallas
Kay Bailey is a nice, very bright woman but the press would go after her too, not that I doubt she couldn’t handle it but she doesn’t seem to have the fighting spirit, and is not known as that way. We need someone who can claw the eyes out of lunatics, someone with at least some independence. Palin may have not been the perfect choice, but she is as good as the rest of what was out there and she sure has pulled in a pile of money in a very short time indicating someone really likes her. She may be inexperienced as a number 2 but she is as experienced as the democrats number 1.
Posted by: david | September 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Hmmmm if this is true, who pocketed
the money we gave the Russians when
we purchased it from them?
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
So I guess its alaska first, country second, daughter third, newborn 4th, grandchild 5th?
Im just trying to figure out the order of her priorities
Posted by: Mom of 3 | September 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Was this woman vetted? What else of her fringe-extremist activities will the public come to know? This is a very irresponsible choice for a 72 year old man with a history of cancer and other health problems.
Posted by: Michael | September 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Anyone who participates in a call to secede from the United States is clearly a traitor. To trust someone like Palin to be number two in our country is insanity. McCain needs to find someone else quick.
Posted by: Auster1 | September 1, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Ooh I know Putin is shaking in his boots now. (NOT)
Posted by: Blair | September 1, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
bob
you haven’t obviously turned on the news in three days
there is lots of what you call dirt…
you should be lucky they are focusing on the dirt and her sheer enormous lack of knowledge of any issue we are facing right now.
Posted by: dl | September 1, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
If McCain really knew this before hand, he would have made it known on day ONE. You dont wait 4 days and turn it into scandal.
Posted by: Mom of 3 | September 1, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Was she vetted?
Posted by: kay | September 1, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
When will the Republican stop being ruled by Rove? He is killing the party.
I jumped ship after being a life time republican.
Posted by: Hugo | September 1, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
How appropriate that the RNC is having to work around a physical hurricane and a political hurricane this week. We reap what we so.
Posted by: helloall | September 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
So I guess its alaska first, country second, daughter third, newborn 4th, grandchild 5th?
Im just trying to figure out the order of her priorities
**********
I agree totally
Posted by: handle | September 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
So she didn’t even want her state to be a part of the USA, but now she wants to be VP of the USA? Laughable. This woman needs to go.
Posted by: Melissa | September 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Look Sarah Palin seems like a nice lady,but she is in way over her head and not to mention her extremist views. I think she should withdraw and spare the country.
Posted by: Vicky | September 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Palin is a beauty Queen:
McCain’s wife told him to pick her..
An America will have to love how she looks from the window of a department store when they loose their home.
Rice more than likely turned McCain down.
Posted by: Underdog | September 1, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
If McCain really knew this before hand, he would have made it known on day ONE. You dont wait 4 days and turn it into scandal.
***************
I completely agree, thank you
Posted by: handle | September 1, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
This woman is unfit to lead anything more than the local PTA. She claims to be a corruption-fighter has her own scandals brewing. She claims to be a reformer but loved the “bridge to nowhere” when she ran for office. She claims to be a super-mom but leaves her four month old special needs child and pregnant unwed teenage daughter for a veep run. Go away, Sarah. Nobody likes you.
Posted by: jefferson | September 1, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Well, this is one way to generate media attention to compete w/ the DNC Convention.
Posted by: Carolyn | September 1, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Palin
is Alaskan for “ill-informed drama”.
Posted by: dl | September 1, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
So she didn’t even want her state to be a part of the USA, but now she wants to be VP of the USA? Laughable. This woman needs to go.
************
You my friend, put it best!
Posted by: handle | September 1, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
This ticket reads like a tabloid rag.
Posted by: Lori | September 1, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Palin For President!
ALASKA FIRST!
TOTAL ABSTINENCE!
THE UNIVERSE CREATED IN SEVEN DAYS!
ADAM AND EVE OUR GRANDPARENTS!
WOOOHOOOO!
LONG LIVE THE GOP!
Posted by: kissinger | September 1, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Some advocate statehood — but a fuller statehood than exists now.
What on earth does that mean?
Posted by: John | September 1, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Remember:
McCain’s wife is the RICH ONE.
SHE MAKES THE DECISIONS.
BEAUTY QUEEN WORKS FOR HER
NO MATTER WHAT, ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS.
OUT OF WORK
Posted by: Underdog | September 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
This lifelong Republican has never voted for a Democrat and I have no intention to do so now. However, John McCain has lost my vote unless he removes this person from the ticket.
In the four days that she has been his VP nominee, we’ve learned that she’s being investigated for abuse-of-power, she put her small town nearly $20 million in the hole, and now that she has belonged to a secessionist radical group. What else are we going to find in the next two months?
Having Palin on the ticket is pretty much handing Barack Obama the presidency. McCain must select another VP choice.
Posted by: Harold K | September 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Alaska First!
Posted by: KathyD | September 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Did McCain just pick her name out of a hat? Does he make decisions based on info or his “gut”???
Posted by: Nate | September 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Is anybody keeping track of how many stories ABCNews posts about Sarah Palin, relative to the number of stories about Joe Biden?
Posted by: tony | September 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Mccain has to say he knew it. The alternative is he picked the person to run the country and be the leader of the free world like a pin the tail on the donkey game…with one quick lift of the blindfold to see”Oh Hillary supporters are mad I’ll pick a woman”
then pulled the blindfold back down and went for it…
just like his foreign policy.
ugh
Posted by: dl | September 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Republican values? Torture, spying on Americans, war for empire, tax cuts for the rich, Racebaiting, intolerance,
neglect of the poor, stripmining and
destruction of the environment,
offshore tax havens, wholesale job loss, I am a republican these are not
my values.
Posted by: joe malone | September 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Although I don’t think she is remotely qualified to b VP, I do not begrudge her choice. I just wonder why she would accept the nomination knowing the scrutiny that would be put on her daughter. Also, this woman has five kids, can she really help run the country and not neglect something?
Posted by: Beverly | September 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
She’s done. That’s it. Secede from the U.S.? It’s over. Guaranteed.
Posted by: faygokid | September 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
whatever bad things you can say about Palin, as long as McCain camp can successfully define her as “She’s a straight talker and a maverick just like my husband — she’s not afraid to say no” — the McCain-Palin ticket wins. She has records, maybe not enough experience. the records speak for her — she can do it. The main doubt I have about the democrats is that they can never deliver. But the McCain-Palin ticket really brings up the excitement — yes they can do it. They both did it before, and they can do it in the future.
Posted by: amy | September 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
I am republican, but there is NO WAY, I am voting for this nut case woman. I will just be sitting out this year from voting. McCain did not vet her!
Posted by: Omar | September 1, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Wasn’t Bristol on the stage with her mother last week, when Palin accepted the McCain’s invitation to be his running mate. Did she look 5 months pregnant?
Posted by: Tulani | September 1, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
I’m surprised with her lack of experience (which may have actually been a a part of the reson she was selected, to counter-attack OBama) that her lack of appropriate education hasn’t been brought up. She has a BA in journalism from the U of Idaho. This just keeps getting worse and worse for the Republican party. I saw a rumor that her husband has a felony drunk driving conviction. If that is true, it should be coming out soon too. McCain is looking like a total imbecile.
Posted by: helloall | September 1, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
tony
everyone knows the stories of Jow Biden through and through…
and he is still a thousand times more qualified and shows Obama to be a man who picks for the welfare of the nation…
not one who picks for the welfare of his own goal.
Posted by: dl | September 1, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
So she didn’t even want her state to be a part of the USA, but now she wants to be VP of the USA? Laughable. This woman needs to go.
If McCain really knew this before hand, he would have made it known on day ONE. You dont wait 4 days and turn it into scandal.
So I guess its alaska first, country second, daughter third, newborn 4th, grandchild 5th?Im just trying to figure out the order of her priorities
Image Sarah Palin in talks with Moamer Kadhafi, Vladimir Putin…ALASKA FIRST!
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These are some of my favorites. Thanks all for your brilliant take on it!
Posted by: handle | September 1, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Call me crazy, but I consider seceding from the union to be very unpatriotic. However, Sarah does believe in “world peace”.
Posted by: WyteFyre | September 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
She didn’t leave her 4 mo old child to run… She left him when he was 3 days old.
Talk about denial and not dealing with issues.
I guess that’s what you get when it’s Alaska First
Posted by: Pam | September 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
She’s done. That’s it. Secede from the U.S.? It’s over. Guaranteed.
Posted by: David Br. | September 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
As a Republican, I’d like to find a way to justify this. But it just doesn’t work. First and foremost you have to be qualified to be President. I disagree with Biden on most things, but he is qualified to be President. How can McCain say Obama isn’t qualified but Palin is? Not only that but it makes the party look bad – as if there are no qualified women in the party.
sigh
Posted by: Justin | September 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
WOW!
“Alaska First, Always”…
I can’t figure out what’s wrong with that statement…can anyone help me?
Oh Wait…. It should be “America First” just as McCain wanted… WOW!
What just happened there?
On a serious note, it shows how bad McCain will govern if he wins. Bush chose Mike Brown and look how Brown performed?
I was wondering why McCain would choose someone without even vetting…but I got the answer yesterday. On Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace McCain said “Sara Palin is his Partner and Soul Mate”… Do we need to wonder why he picked her anymore?
God Bless us and the USA. Country First NOT ALASKA!!
Posted by: Sonny | September 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
McCain went off the reservation when he chose Palin as his VP. Republican insiders are saying that the Bush/Cheney/Rove wing of the party were trying to force Romney on the ticket, but McCain wanted Lieberman. When they said NO — probably by threatening to withhold some campaign funds from the rich RNC treasure chest — McCain made the decision on his own to pick Palin. This shows enormously bad judgment on his part and actually brings his sanity into question. And that doesn’t even take into account the wackiness that Palin is bringing to the table. And, trust me, there are more revelations to come. Is there a over/under yet on how long Palin will last? Look for Lieberman to replace her before the end of September.
Posted by: Sally in Dallas | September 1, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Many people like their state, as I really like florida. The Obama nuts will say anything against a better qualified person. But, the democrats are not sexist, or are they, ask Hillary.
McCain/Palin – real Americans
Posted by: martha S. | September 1, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
So I guess its alaska first, country second, daughter third, newborn 4th, grandchild 5th?
Im just trying to figure out the order of her priorities
**********
Talk about getting it right on the money!
Posted by: Jackie | September 1, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Jay Leno, David Letterman, Conan O’brien and
Jim Kimmel have all given their writers a week off!
It seems that the republicans have created all
their jokes for them this week.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 1, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
handle—how about hugo chavez
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
NO!
ALASKA LAST!
PALIN GO HOME!
Posted by: Texan | September 1, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
The more I learn about Palin, the more I question John McCain mental state.
Posted by: John | September 1, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Jonathan Demme has got to buy the rights to this story and make a movie!
Fantastic!
Posted by: Pat | September 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
So she didn’t even want her state to be a part of the USA, but now she wants to be VP of the USA? Laughable. This woman needs to go.
If McCain really knew this before hand, he would have made it known on day ONE. You dont wait 4 days and turn it into scandal.
So I guess its alaska first, country second, daughter third, newborn 4th, grandchild 5th?Im just trying to figure out the order of her priorities
Image Sarah Palin in talks with Moamer Kadhafi, Vladimir Putin…ALASKA FIRST!
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I agree, these are great points!
Posted by: Kathy L. | September 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Palin has more experience in her pinky than Obama! Palin was the chief executive of a U.S state and responsible for making decisions that impacted their lives. Obama has been executive of nothing and has been making decisions only for his campaign minions, not to mention running for President SINCE HE WAS ELECTED TO THE U.S SENATE!!!.
The left wing will try to destroy Palin but she will destroy them.
McCain-Palin 08.
Nobama
Keep the Change.
Posted by: Jim | September 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
1. So far as Alaskans are concerned, independence might be in their best interests, particularly with the natural resources that will soon be accessible as the arctic ice recedes at an increasing rate.
2. If Alaskans voted overwhelmingly to succeed, I’d have a hard time coming up with a decisive argument for the conclusion they have no moral right to do so. Am I alone on that point?
3. I’ve never had the experience of learning so many interesting details about a major political figure in so short a time. Setting aside political concerns, base and noble alike, it’s been an entertaining weekend.
4. I have no idea whether Palin will help or hurt McCain. At this point, I’m just sitting back and watching the movie. But please, don’t stop commenting. Y’all are part of the show and it’s very entertaining.
Posted by: Thinking Out Loud | September 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
You know the Obamabots are running scared when they repeatedly post on message boards with the beginning qualifier, “I am a life-long Republican….”
Yeah, everyone believes you…not!
Posted by: Paul | September 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
watch out, Alaska has a mighty military, we might have to attack them the way Russia attacked Georgia. Great stratigic thinking PALIN!
Posted by: Kathy L. | September 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Okay, so where were all of ABC’s “Top Story’s” about Biden’s shady past?
Posted by: sj | September 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
It’s just keeps getting deeper and deeper for Sarah and it’s only been a few days since her announcement to be McCains running mate. Now we learn she wanted Alaska to secede from the United States. What a great patriotic American she is, NOT. Is it too late for McCain to change his mind and ask Romney?
Posted by: PhilBgood | September 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Diggin’ for dirt…. diggin’ for dirt…..diggin’ for dirt…. diggin’ for dirt.
Posted by: debra | September 1, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
watch out, Alaska has a mighty military, we might have to attack them the way Russia attacked Georgia. Great stratigic thinking PALIN!
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OMG THIS IS BRILLIANT! Thank you!
Posted by: handle | September 1, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
I guess Sarah Palin was exploring various political ideologies while Obama was experimenting with cocaine. Shall we let bygones be bygones?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
watch out, Alaska has a mighty military, we might have to attack them the way Russia attacked Georgia. Great stratigic thinking PALIN!
Music to my ears
Posted by: handle | September 1, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Three words:
Wreckless, Wreckless, Wreckless
She wanted to secede? She wanted a $250 million dollar bridge by the tax payers but wanted to secede from the U.S.A?
U-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E
Posted by: JJ | September 1, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
I heard on the radio that she attended their conference THIS YEAR, 2008, and I believe made a speech/presentation of some sort. Can anyone confirm this?
Posted by: Willy | September 1, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Trying to make Sarah Palin an extremeist is laughable. Pull open Obama’s closet with his domestic terrorists buddies, shady Chicago politics. Talk about extremist. Obama is a radical!!!!
Posted by: Jim | September 1, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Wouldn’t a group advocating seceding from the US be considered “Treason”, advocating the overthrow of the govt. in their area? Might as well stick a fork in her, she’s done.
Posted by: Willow | September 1, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
hey cathy –alaskan military—–a moose and a bear wow–you have to love it.
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
I think Palin rocks, becuase the Bush’s picked her, and they really do make great decisions for this country.
Posted by: Susan Miller | September 1, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Chavez: “OK now, what’s your take on the FARC?”
Palin: “Alaska first.”
Chavez: “And Uribe?”
Palin: “I never traveled, I don’t know that country, sir. And will you please excuse me, my breast pump is waiting.”
Posted by: rodham | September 1, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
a senior reporter, ABC must have pulled you off of skid row. What a fool.
Posted by: charles scott mizzell | September 1, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
I can’t for the life of me figure out why the republicans picked this woman.
Was John chasing her around a table at some party (like he did w/ Cindy)? What could she possible hold over him?
His SOULMATE?
How weird this all is getting.
Posted by: Littlecindyluwho | September 1, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Why didn’t McCain pick Romney or Pawlenty? Or even Huckabee? All of these men are more qualified than Palin and now she is a member of some America-hating anarchist group? John McCain should realize that with his age and history he really should have picked someone who would be ready to be president on day one. This is sad.
Posted by: David | September 1, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Maybe now more will come on the Ayres Obama connection . The networks are opening up the door very widely .
Posted by: NATE | September 1, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Hey Rodney,
I suppose I’m right there with you buddy. I’ve heard some fairly outrageous “fringe” type comments from you over time.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Gov. Sarah Palin is a courageous woman who will be the next Vice-President of the United States. All the vicious attacks made by Obama supporters will not change that fact.
The pathetic reactions in these posts made by Obama supporters in using this as a club to attack Palin demonstrates just how low the Obama Campaign will go to score political points.
Why don’t we put energy into debating REAL issues? The reason is that in real debates on real issues, the Obama Campaign will loose. Just like they are going to loose the Election in November!!
McCain/Palin08
Women Defending Democracy
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Capt D (8:13:03 PM)
How can I put this politely? You lie.
As mayor, she did cut property taxes, which screwed up the Wasilla budget. She also botched the land acquisition for their Sports Complex (including, surprise, a hockey rink), so that the city is now on the hook for upwards of $1.5M extra (that’s about $8,000 per household — good thing they had that property tax cut).
More to the point about lying: The Public Safety Commish she fired was NOT a crony of the old gov — Palin appointed him.
Posted by: strangelet | September 1, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
This is one complicated chick! I bet she ends up bringing McCain down, but it’s his own fault. He didn’t do a good job vetting her, which demonstrates how inept he would be as president.
Posted by: Danny | September 1, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Nice vetting Mr. McCain. It’s your move…
Posted by: doug | September 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
wesrtcoast—you have to love it–mccain never lets me down
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
To be a member of a separtist party means only one thing, that you are UNPATRIOTIC and against the UNITED states of America.
We should arrest her for treason, NOT elect her VP!!!
Posted by: Ron | September 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
What else don’t we know about her? Is it irresponsible to speculate? It would be irresponsible not to!
Posted by: anon | September 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Hey, Carly in NJ: She was a member of a party that ADVOCATED SECESSION FROM THE UNITED STATES. Let that sink in for a while. She’s finished. You are deluded if you think that she can overcome that. I don’t care about her daughter one way or the other, but SECESSION finishes her. Period.
Posted by: faygokid | September 1, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
So Palin was against the United States,before she was for it?
Posted by: Gary | September 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
as much as i question the choice of mccain.
most of the comments here are copy-paste material.
so many comments are exactly the same:
” I am a republican, life-long for that matter.”
effort to influence opinion.
and it might backfire.
Posted by: Luke | September 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Is it just me, or do the McCain supporters on this board seem a little, well…stupid?
Posted by: Chris | September 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
This ENTIRE republican campaign is sinking FAST !!!!
Posted by: MsKay | September 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Danny,
You have to remember that McCain saw how the press failed to vet Obama. Now you might say that all vets are off.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Why does Sarah Palin hate America? If she doesn’t want to be a part of our country, she can move somewhere else.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | September 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
All the dems have to do is sit back. Obama already said the press needs to back off her pregnant daughter headline.
Let the fools bury themselves.
Posted by: Denny | September 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
The Republican’s don’t even recognize a real “radical” when one is staring them in their face. Can you imagine if it had come out that all of ten years ago Obama had been a member of an organization with a major platform of succeeding from the Union? God he would be out of this election in a heartbeat. In the Republican world this kind of hypocrisy is more than okay, it’s the norm. Shame on them.
Posted by: Pjsandiego | September 1, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Quote: “McCain/Palin – real Americans”
???? They say they are temporarily Americans, normally Republicans. They’ve said it so much, I’m beginning to think they believe Republicans are not Americans. So that would give us the Obamacats and the temporary Americans.
Posted by: Carl | September 1, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Many people like their state, as I really like florida. The Obama nuts will say anything against a better qualified person. But, the democrats are not sexist, or are they, ask Hillary.
McCain/Palin – real Americans
Posted by: martha S.
**********************
Are Republicans ignorant to the fact
that McCain did this to get Hillary’s
votes. Now that it is backfiring, SHE
will mysteriously back out and Romney
will replace her. This tactic is nothing
new, it was done before. the only problem
is timing if he want to save face.
Posted by: spacerook1 | September 1, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Let’s see now this is three scandals in one day. Now what else don’t we know about Ms. Palin?
Posted by: Gerry | September 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Bad decision, Bad Choice, Not Good Example for other Teenager cant condone it Sarah, withdraw and go Back Home even Bill oReilly Think you should, cant manage your Home, cant manage the Country, mccain another oops,
Posted by: ga peach | September 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
-Denny- This story has nothing to do with Sarah’s daughters pregnancy. This story is about Sarah wanting Alaska to secede from the U S. Great American pride for a vp candidate, right?
Posted by: PhilBgood | September 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Why does Sarah Palin hate America?
Posted by: Waleeg | September 1, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Without a doubt, the website for AIP is very right leaning in its issues and ideologies. To name a few issues, they want a complete turnover of public and park lands to private property, support gun rights and homeschooling. Interestingly enough, they are strong on suing- they state a person should be able to sue an individual regardless of that person’s position. Palin has already demonstrated that she is in agreement with AIP principles, and should be willing to speak about her membership with the organization.
Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
If you all want a good laugh…check out FakeNews. They are falling all over themselves trying to “spin” this vp pick.
This woman just HANDED the presidency to Obama !!!!!!!
Posted by: V for Vendetta | September 1, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Who vetted this woman? Spongebob?
Posted by: Vivica | September 1, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
It’s not the country she was trying to run from, I believe it was the no good liberal-Democrat values. After all, Bill Clinton was in office at that time. The WORST PRESIDENT EVER!!!
Posted by: Registered Republican | September 1, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
The AIP’s main aim is to secede from the United States, becoming either a territory or a sovereign nation. They aim to be entirely “self-sufficient” using profits from the oil and gas resources of the state.
Basically its a OIL grab. They want Alaskan Oil and Gas for themselves.
Palin completely contradicts McCain’s campaign message. She doesn’t deserve to be Vise President. It’s almost Treason.
Posted by: James | September 1, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Okay BlameAmericaLast – there may be a lot of DailyKos people here but you need to present a better rebuttal than that. How can the GOP effectively respond? Is there one? Anyone else?
Posted by: Auster1 | September 1, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
I am proud to be a supporter of Obama’s. I also admire Hillary Clinton and I truly believe it is an insult to even comapre Gov. Palin to Hillary Clinton. Hillary has more smarts in one finger than Palin would get in a lifetime. Hillary is my Senator in New York and I am proud of her, and no Hillary supporters, I never was one to attack Hillary or her supporters. I just made a choice I felt was right for me and I am insulted that McCain didn’t even “vet” Palin and is just now finding out her daughter is pregnant? Palin should have told him before accepting the offer, but then again one can’t expect McCain to ask any intelligent questions. What a farce and it is an insult to all women!
Posted by: fran | September 1, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
westcoast –you cannot win on this one—my best friend is republican and he wins now and then–but hides when he sees me coming now—-mccain is a real gem.
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Well Debra, it doesn’t look like they have to dig too deep……. People like you have no problem throwing around the anti-american garbage the other direction. You can dish it and not take it? I’m oh so shocked!!!!
Posted by: dk | September 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Pjsandiego,
Historically, I think its fair to say, judging by Mr. Obama’s confessions, once upon a time in his life he was advocating cocaine usage. How are those credentials comparatively?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
What other skeletons are in this woman’s closet? How could John McCain do this to America?
Posted by: Belinda | September 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
PALIN GO CARE FOR YOUR SICK BABY AND YOUR GRANDCHILD. THIS VP REMINDS ME OF THE JERRY SPRINGER SHOW!
HUFFINGTON POST VETTED PALIN!
Posted by: KAREN | September 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Secessionist Sarah: VP pick Sarah Palin and the Alaska Independence Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/1/4231/18477/878/581881
Posted by: Secessionist Sarah | September 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
At least she wasn’t attending Reverend Wright’s church for 20 years listening to Black Liberation Theology and claiming to have never heard anything anti-american. I think it’s interesting the Democrats are grabbing at every little shred of the past on VP candidate Palin when they haven’t even fully vetted their nominee for President – Obama!!!
Posted by: nostradamus | September 1, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Imagine if Senator Obama was once a member of a Hawai’ian Independence Party that advocated secession from the USA! The tv would be filled with Republicans shouting “He’s unpatriotic!” “That’s Treason!” “He’s un-American!” They’d crucify him!
Posted by: Beth in VA | September 1, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
McCain and his folks didn’t vet this woman. The whole thing shows more about McCain’s judgment than it does about Palin.
Posted by: JAB | September 1, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Where is her flag lapel pin!
Posted by: patriot | September 1, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Wow. I actually like SOMETHING about her now. The way this country is heading, I will be moving to the first state smart enough to secede.
If those of you who are Republican only by name would have listened to and supported Ron Paul, you would not be in this mess.
I’ll be at the real convention, The Rally For The Republic.
Posted by: JPD | September 1, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Well you know McCain said he picked her after talking with her the 1st time. Probably should have talked to her more than once. She’s out there!
Posted by: Jim Bob | September 1, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Why does Sarah Palin hate America?
Posted by: Todd | September 1, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
This woman is a joke and unqualified. How dare she compare herself to Hillary Clinton?Furthermore, if John McCain just wanted to pick a woman, he could have chosen Condoleeza Rice or Kay Bailey Hutchison or even Olympia Snowe. Yet he goes with this neophyte who seems to have all kinds of little secrets to match her thin resume. I just cannot believe that had a man had this lack of experience that he even would have been considered.
Posted by: James | September 1, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
This is so awesome! It just gets better and better. A VP who used to belong to a secessionist party! Does the GOP rock or what? You guys are awesome! Seriously, awesome.
I really wanted McCain to be president in ’04 and believed he could have put our country on the right path, and I’m a Democrat. But this is so far off the wall it’s starting to get scary.
Posted by: Flanders | September 1, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
The hits just keep on coming for Palin. Being a member of a secessionist party?!? What a puzzling choice for VP. And please stop with the “she has more executive experience” nonsense, she was the mayor of a VERY small town just two years ago and has been the governor of a state 3 1/2 times smaller than the borough of Brooklyn. Lets be real…
Posted by: Sam | September 1, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Rodney,
Not sure what I’d be winning exactly. Let’s be clear, I’m voting for Obama, as pathetic and weak as the guy is. I actually think that Biden is smart enough to prop him up like a puppet and keep us generally safe, and we’ll get some OK Supreme Court appointees. I don’t think we can get that from McCain. That being said all the sound and fury about Sarah Palin is essentially wasted wind. Since Obama survived the Reverend Wright and the Rezko relationships the game is now wide open. MSM spin labels to sell their media does not a campaign make. Comprende?
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 1, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Sarah Palin is awesome. What an amazing choice!! She is tailor-made for the late night comedy shows. SNL? I’m thinking Tina Fey, in a guest shot, season opener. There is just about unlimited material. SP is going to single-handedly raise tv ratings for Leno, Letterman, SNL, Mad TV – they ought to pay her a percentage.
Posted by: lucypdx | September 1, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
His Soulmate?
Wow. That says it all. She is a reformer alright.
Posted by: Sue | September 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
It is certainly remarkable that within a few days of the Palin choice the media is able to investigate nearly every aspect of her life and the life of her family. In contrast, it seems that not one media organization has been able to spare a reporter to investigate the truth behind any possible ties of Obama to William Ayers or recently convicted financier Rezko. If I didn’t know any better, I might suspect they were biased.
Posted by: bedy | September 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
West Coast Messenger
You know better than what you write:
You know Sen Obama never advocated anyone else using drugs – just stop saying foolish things
You are smarter than your current posts
Posted by: alison | September 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
As they say…bad press is good press.
Notice there has been NOTHING about Obama in DAYS?????
Good riddance. He has nothing of any substance to say other than the typical empty talking points.
And he had to dig up Joe Biden from the grave because he didn’t have any gravitas himself. Another typical old fart Washington insider…
So much for “change”.
Posted by: BlameAmericaLast | September 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
The Jerry Springer Show is now officially handling PR for the Republican party. Hey McCainy – you’re doin’ a heckuva job (for the Democrats!!)
Posted by: Jackie | September 1, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
THIS THING IS GETTING WORSE BY THE DAY.IF THIS IS REALLY TRUE, THAT WOULD BE DEVASTATING.
Posted by: CARL | September 1, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
hey BlameAmericaLast “The chosen one” That was Hannity’s moniker not Obama supporters. Mabey Rush “the nut” Limbaugh’s also.
Posted by: Jim Bob | September 1, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
This is what happens when you meet someone once and then put them a heartbeat away from the most powerful office on earth. I am not here to bash Palin, I think she is just a victim of McCain’s blind ambition. However, this rash choice tells me volumes about McCain. And it is not complimentary.
Posted by: Valerie | September 1, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Folks, this was mentioned below but it is worth repeating. Proudly displayed on the Introduction page of the AIP web site (akip.org/introduction.html) is a quote from the group’s founder:
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
That Sarah Palin was “once” a member of a group promoting such views is quite disturbing. This should immediately disqualify her as VP, but also brings into question McCain’s judgement. Are they really “soul mates” as he claims? Does McCain define “Country First” the same way that Palin does?
Posted by: Randy | September 1, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Doesn’t sound like any hockey mom I know.
Posted by: Kel | September 1, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Wow. Initially, as an Obama supporter, I was worried about this VP vick pushing McCain over the top.
Now, I think Palin is the best thing to ever happen to Obama’s campaign.
LOL.
Posted by: CommonSensetoEarth | September 1, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
WOW, John McCain picks a VP who doesn’t want to be an American. Now there is Judgment for you.
Posted by: James | September 1, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
President George W. Bush, please tell your friend McCain to find another VP. McCain is in big trouble. Even Bill O’Reilly thinks she should not be McCain’s VP.
Posted by: Patty | September 1, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Wow did McCain screw up or what
Posted by: keredte | September 1, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
I can’t vote for someone who doesn’t feel they’re state should be part of the United States. Not to mention Alaska gives the US a tactical advantage against the Russians. I guess when she said Alaska first, she meant it. Well we need someone who will put AMERICA first, i’m voting for Obama…it’s the logical choice.
Posted by: John | September 1, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Maybe this is why Palin never bothered to read up on what the VP of the United States actually does.
Posted by: Carla | September 1, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
westcoast
i started out impressed with huchabee and romney—but i know too much about mccain –and good judgement is not one of his strong points–and he never lets me down on that issue.i will take a chance with the very smart young guy and biden cinched that for me.
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
This decision is in reality only for Americans. However, since my mother was American, and I have relatives from North Carolina to California, I feel I should at least be allowed to ask one question of you all. What the hell is going on in your politics??? Regardless of a GOP or Democrat win in your presidential election I would have thought that some modicom of qualifications would come with the presidential and vice presidential nominees. Obama displays character and thought. McCain has his senate record to run on. Biden has 36 years of representing his state in the senate. Sarah Palin has less than 2 years as a govenor of a state with less of a population than the city I live in. Her prior experience is mayor of a town of 8,000. Now please, is this truly the best that there is to choose from? I would profer that at least 6 of my relatives are more experienced. My niece for instance runs an international advertising agency with almost 300 employees and a $500M annual budget. If Senator McCain would like to give her a call I think she has, at the very least, equal qualifications. When you all vote remember one thing. You vote for all of us in the rest of the world and most of us like to follow the United States. Good luck.
Posted by: Dunlike | September 1, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
McCain called her his Soul-Mate. I wonder how he’s going to get out of this one.
Posted by: James | September 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Oh my gosh, if this were a Democrat doing this, all hell would break lose!!
Not a word on MSNBC, is Gustav, they’ve been told, hush!
BABYGATE
TROOPERGATE
OTHER FIRINGSGATE
BRISTOL PREGNANTGATE
AMERICAN INDEPENDENT PARTYGATE
WHAT WILL IT BE TOMORROW? This is a very complex person. Kind of like a Northern Exposure Peyton Place!
This is a 72 yr old cancer survivor, melanoma nearly kills the first time. John McCain cannot gable with our country, the way he plays, high-stakes craps. He is famous for it.
I think dementia has really set in. yesterday, Chris Wallace asked him about Palins qualifications, he said “did I tell you she was head of the PTA”, “I think that is just great”!
I swear, that is what he said. The old guy has lost it.
But really, why did this woman let her daughter be humiliated and ridiculed this way? It’s inhumane. The Palins are the laughing stock of the WORLD. Google it, it’s everywhere, it is so embarrassing for all of us.
Posted by: Andrea D | September 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Now *this* is some juicy stuff to sink my teeth into. I thought she sounded like someone from Manitoba, but apparently she’s more in line with Quebec!
I don’t think Obama is popping champagne. It’s kinda hard to sip when yer jaw is hitting the floor every five minutes. And my God, we’ve only known about her since Friday!
All we need now is to learn that a) she believes in alien visitors, b) she’s a secret member of the Klan, or c) starts offering advice for the upcoming Rapture while at the convention.
Seriously. Maybe she’ll pull out a couple pistols and fire them in the air ala Wild Bill Cody during her acceptance speech. Let’s hear Bill Kristol say that speech is generic!
I’m not sure of the legality, but perhaps he should have a fallback of Cindy McCain as VP.
Posted by: HolyFrijoles! | September 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
BlameAmericaLast Oh come on now son. Bringing up the lapel pin thing. Really.
Grow up. You wear one all the time? Get ereal.
Posted by: Jim Bob | September 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
My fellow republicans, what good did Bush/Cheney do for you, Tax cuts for the rich, more government, Kstreet and
special interest corruption run wild, oil increased 300% in 7 years, 401k declines mutual funds losses, disregard for scientific inquiry, 4000 plus of Americas Best sons and daughters lost,
iraq giving oil leases to the chinese
and russians, setting up europe for a
new cold war and new weapons expenses.
loss of American prestige, Remember the
great Reagan line, Are we better off than were 8 years ago? Put aside your
single issue politics. Deny this crowd, the Greedy Oil Party another 4 years for the good of the party. And America.
That would be putting America first.
Posted by: joe malone | September 1, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” – Joe Vogler, founder of the Alaskan Independence Party
I want no part of anyone that subscribes to that BS. Talk about UnAmerican!
Posted by: Billy | September 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
People! A vote for Palin, is a vote for 49 states! Stop hating America! You are either with us or against us, you know!
Posted by: CommonSensetoEarth | September 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
I am wondering how long it will take for the nude pictures of the governor to come out.
Posted by: V for Vendetta | September 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
“Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty AIP!”
McCain -Palin ’08
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | September 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
SaraJ did you not listen to her acceptance speech? She said she took the position b/c it would be good for Alaska. Now the pieces are all coming together.
Posted by: Kris | September 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
I now see why McCain thinks Palin has the requisite foreign policy experience he insists Obama doesn’t have — she’s been running Alaska, apparently an independent nation, for two years. She’s even more experienced than McCain himself. Question is: Do we go with Benedict Arnold (Palin) or George Washington (Obama)?
Posted by: john | September 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
The two losers here are obviously Palin and Obama. Obama belongs to a church that hates America and Palin wants to leave America. They both lack the experience needed for the position. We would be better off with McCain and Biden on the same ticket.
Posted by: dds | September 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
ALASKA First! ALASKA Always! The media is too obsessed with sex to ever cover this issue! And Obama will avoid this issue due to his own connections. We WILL have a pro-independence Vice President and we WILL have freedom at last from the tyranny of the American Empire! GO PALIN!!!
Posted by: AIP | September 1, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
(CNN) – A senior adviser to John McCain’s campaign confirms that they have dispatched a team of 12 people to presumptive VP nominee Sarah Palin’s home state of Alaska.
The adviser insists the group is a communications “jump” team that would have gone to any nominee’s hometown, and denies reports that the team is now going to further vet Palin.
Posted by: Danny | September 1, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Wow… I mean, wow…
Posted by: Mel | September 1, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
I expect her to decide not to accept on reconsideration before the official vote at the convention. Like Thomas Eagleton.
Posted by: Edward | September 1, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
I may not wear one all the time, but it’s funny how ALL OF A SUDDEN Obama is wearing one. Sorry, ain’t gonna work.
I fly a flag 365/days a year.
Posted by: BlameAmericaLast | September 1, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
McFossil needed someone, ANYONE (and fast!) to accept his offer of VP and Palin wanted the FASTRACK!
Posted by: Libratine | September 1, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
LMAO!! So now the new talking point is “well bad press is good press”?? LOL!!! Ummm…that works for Robert Downey Jr. and Jessica Simpson…its doesn’t work in politics. Just ask Larry Craig or John Edwards. Politicians do NOT want bad press…yet Sarah Palin and John McCain sure are giving us a lot of it!! Gotta love it, the Clampetts go to DC…LOL Talk about the party of family values, whoa….must be nothing BUT talk.
Posted by: Lynne | September 1, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
There were links in the WAPO comments that had a video of Pallin giving a video greeting to a very recent AI meeting, telling them how wonderful they are.
Posted by: tomdurk | September 1, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
With this pick of this particular woman John McCain showed his arrogance that he doesn’t even think he needs a competent VP and has shown even worse judgment in eight years than Dubya. I didn’t think that was even possible. How can Palin be considered a good choice when McCain said the Veep needed to have experience? What’s wrong with the Republican stance that only a strong candidate could handle foreign affairs. They’ve lost my vote.
Posted by: Rusty | September 1, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
I have to agree with a previous post. This is indeed interesting to see as it plays out. I too read the Internet rumor about Palin’s baby being her daughter’s baby… and the photos showed no sign of pregnancy at 7 months. Some may argue that is because she is a runner and physically fit, but come on now… do you really think a 7 month pregnancy is going to be kept under a taught belly? AND baby number 5 is not going to “show”… Funniest thing now is that some of her pictures on her site are inaccessible… the thumbnails are there but you cannot upsize them. “Error”… my left butt cheek. There is a game being played here and we the public are currently unwitting players, but we will get it figured out. No doubt, we will get it figured out. FAST FORWARD TO TODAY and SURPRISE!now they claim the daughter is pregnant (again?!?!?) Some are saying this disproves the rumor. Frankly, it proves nothing of the sort. Women can get pregnant AGAIN within 3 months of giving birth. What a scorcher that would be if the rumors are true and her daughter is pregnant again. Some Mother she turns out to be, huh?
Well I intend to sit back and enjoy the show. Hope you do too. In the meantime, won’t you join us at the snack bar for some delicious and refreshing snacks?
Posted by: Voter | September 1, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
THERE IS NO NEED TO ARGUE ABOUT SARAH PALIN. THIS IS HOW THE GOP THINKS OF HER IN COMPARISON TO JOE BIDEN! END OF STORY!
Posted by: Democrat | September 1, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Obama’s been through the rigors of a national campaign for 19 months (and has passed w/ flying colors). Palin will not even last 2 months the way things are going after THREE DAYS. I’d love to see the over/under on Palin dropping out within 2 weeks.
Posted by: Kevin | September 1, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
this fits in with her comment during the kudlow interview (paraphrased) that she would consider the vice presidency after someone told her what the job entailed and after considering what it could bring to alaska
she does seem to have a provincial world view…to the extent she has a world view.
i have been an obama supporter since iowa but i am sad to see that a great american hero used a gimmick to win the presidency…or was this mccain’s way of pushing back on karl rove when he couldnt get the ticket he wanted?
maybe mccain is still that hero and has singlehandly saved america from the vast right wing conspiracy.
Posted by: gigs | September 1, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
This Gift just keeps Given… McCain has lost all control of his legacy.. The GOP God Fathers are in control. Trooper Gate, Daughter pregnant, possible faked pregnancy, and now Secession from the Union… I cant wait for next episode…. Can’t you imagine just how POed Liebermann is?
Posted by: larkin1974 | September 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Obama is not too worried about losing Alaska. He said we still have 56 more states.
Posted by: bby | September 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
National Enquirer Party 08: McCain/Palin
Posted by: Goon | September 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Judgement…What a crack…McSain would send this country to HELL if he becomes President…America..You haven’t seen hard times yet…Let McPlain wins and see what happens…Worst than Katrina, worst than 9/11…This man has no sense whatsoever…Wants to win at all cost…Country LAST.
Posted by: 2008shar | September 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
John McCain – Ambition First
Sarah Palin – Alaska First
Why does Palin hate America??
Posted by: jay, dc | September 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
I cannot believe how irresponsible McCain was with this pick. Why not Olympia Snow? A way more experienced republican woman.
Posted by: ObamaLovesYou | September 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
I’m a Republican, and I think Sarah Palin needs to go. She’s in a group that wants to secede from the USA! What kind of other anti-American hate message is coming out of this group?
Some of this Palin controversy is made up. The libs are wrong about the baby stuff, and DialyKos is full of nutcases. But Palin should be ashamed to join a treason group like the Alaskan Independence Party. Real Americans in the Heartland are going to be pretty angry when they hear about this…I think she’s a terrible VP.
McCain should have taken Romney, a true American who knows how to run a business. Or even Pawlenty, who could have won him Minnesota. Instead, we’ve got this token woman who puts her state before her country. What a crock!
Posted by: True Conservative | September 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
dds and BlameAmericaLast
Criticizing America is not the same as hating America. I don’t know anyone who hates America.
Posted by: jock59801 | September 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
What are her credentials. Does she have a degree? Was she a lawyer. Has she ever, ever read the U.S. Constitution? Does she understand anything other than Alaskan maverick B.S.? Why hasn’t the press present the U.S. citizens with her credentials? I don’t want to know her favorite color. I want to know what, if anything, qualifies her for the position!
Posted by: Stitch | September 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Would you knock it off regarding Obama and Ayers. Geeze, it’s so boring. Keep up, would ya’. NO ONE CARES, THERE IS NO STORY THERE, MOVE ALONG!
THERE IS NO AYERS THERE’S, GET IT!
Obama and Ayers served on a committee together, one time, and Ayers gave his campaign $200 in 1997, what!
That’s a story. There were no charges against Ayers. Don’t you think if they could have gotten him for a parking ticket, they would have!!
LET IT GO, McCAIN JUST LOST THE ELECTION! NOW, THAT’S REAL NEWS!
Posted by: Andrea D | September 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
I guess McCain made a gamble that may have backfired.
By picking Palin over more experienced qualified women politicans, he in essence may have forever ruined another woman chance to ascend into the GOP ranks of Pres/VP.
Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
This is just becoming a joke. Palin needs to step down before Wednesday…And she just may for ‘family reasons.’ Otherwise, she’ll take down John McCain and the Republican Party with her.
Posted by: J-M | September 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
McCain will most likely
help the Alaskan independence
movement to fulfill the wishes
of his new soul mate.
Posted by: anon | September 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Why does Sarah Palin hate America? If she doesn’t want to be a part of our country, she can move somewhere else.
Posted by: lala | September 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
BlameAmericaLast
Look in the mirror if you want to se hypocrisy. Your party claims to be the party of God and family values. Your party is always sticking your nose into other people’s bedrooms.
I feel for Palin’s daughter. Her mother knew of her condition and chose to put herself out for national scrutiny. For once, just once, hold your own accountable. If she wanted privacy, she should have turned down the VP slot. The responsiblity for exposing her daughter to this is Palin’s and Palin’s alone.
Posted by: Kenm | September 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
BlameAmericaLast
Look in the mirror if you want to se hypocrisy. Your party claims to be the party of God and family values. Your party is always sticking your nose into other people’s bedrooms.
I feel for Palin’s daughter. Her mother knew of her condition and chose to put herself out for national scrutiny. For once, just once, hold your own accountable. If she wanted privacy, she should have turned down the VP slot. The responsiblity for exposing her daughter to this is Palin’s and Palin’s alone.
Posted by: Kenm | September 1, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Why does Sarah Palin hate America? If she doesn’t want to be a part of our country, she can move somewhere else.
Posted by: liboo | September 1, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Alaskan respinses to Palin pick
Here’s a sample of Alaskan’s responses:
She is really just a mayor from a small town outside Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 years, and has ZERO national and international experience. I shudder to think that she could be the person taking that 3AM call on the White House hotline, and the one who could potentially be charged with leading the US in the volatile international scene that exists today. —Rose M., Fairbanks , AK
She is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She’s a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska . —Christine B., Denali Park , AK
As an Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and she is not the ref ormer she claims to be. —Karen L., Anchorage , AK
Alaskans, collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of the nation. She is doing well running our State, but is totally inexperienced on the national level, and very much unequipped=2 0to run the nation, if it came to that. She is as far right as one can get, which has already been communicated on the news. In our office of thirty employees (dems, republicans, and nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready for the V.P. position.—Sherry C., Anchorage , AK
She’s vehemently anti-choice and doesn’t care about protecting our natural resources, even though she has worked as a fisherman. McCain chose her to pick up the Hillary voters, but Palin is no Hillary. —Marina L., Juneau , AK
I think she’s far too inexperienced to be in this position. I’m all for a woman in the White House, but not one who hasn’t done anything to deserve it. There are far many other women who have worked their way up and have much more experience that would have been better choices. This is a patronizing decision on John McCain’s part- and insulting to females everywhere that he would assume he’ll get our vote by putting “A Woman” in that position.8 0Jennifer M., Anchorage , AK
Posted by: 2008shar | September 1, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Get Real !
You know, that nonsense is still not going to become true no matter how many times you say it.
Posted by: jock59801 | September 1, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
And would someone explain to me how this is any worse than Biden bragging that Delaware was a slave state or that he can’t go to a 7/11 store without having to hear an Indian accent.
Posted by: dds | September 1, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Obama lied again. He said he was going to put politics aside today in honor of the holiday and to place concerns of Gustav ahead. Yet his ads are still running on tv and he said he would ensure that they would not run
Posted by: LIAR | September 1, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
This is getting better and better and better. It’s a great time to be a Democrat.
Posted by: Moral Quandary | September 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
I really, really hope she doesn’t withdraw her name.
McCain/Palin:
For 49 States!
Against Condoms!
Posted by: ObamaLovesYou | September 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Wow…
Alaska First……….
This is really a sad news…
Posted by: Sam | September 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Wait till SNL gets their teeth into this.
Posted by: Debra | September 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
you have to admit–that due to the problems we face today—-mccain should be checked for alzhimers–seriously.
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
This is a sample of what mcCain’s gorvernment will look like,full of avoidable mistakes,after 26 years of experience this kind of judgement( wrong veepee pick) is what he can show for it.It is not how long but how right.Americans be warned!!!!first fool is no fool,second fool is proper foolish!!
Posted by: bp | September 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
This woman is a loose cannon. This selection says everything about John McCain. He needs to learn to read better and find out the facts.
Posted by: kenok | September 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
So in a week from now Palin will resign, and McCain will pick someone else.
BUT how does he spin this. For God Sake he called her his Soul-Mate. He said she was a better leader than Obama. He also said she was FULLY VETTED.
How does McCain save his Credibility, his Judgment, and his Honor from tatters?
Posted by: James | September 1, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Here is more on this story @ ailykos.com
Right above the last video it says:
This last clip is a continuation of the speech from Dexter Clark, the Vice Chairman from the AIP. In it, he talks about the necessity of infiltrating the major national parties in order to further the goals of the AIP.
***INFILTRATING the major national parties!!!
Posted by: Leah | September 1, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
It’s a shame!
THE LACK OF JUDGEMENT THAT MCCAIN IS SHOWING, IS RIDICULOUS!
Posted by: Dliberal | September 1, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
I love the audacity of the Grand Oil Party members. How could the Palin pick be a good pick? McSame and the Republicans handled the vetting process and VP pick in the same fast food manner they are running the country right now.
Posted by: JustSwitched2Dem | September 1, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
mcain said.. i would rather win a war and lose an election. wow!! instead, now that he rather win an election and lose a war. is john mcain a moron?
Posted by: Lao | September 1, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Actually, this’ll probably win ‘em a few votes down in magnolia country.
Posted by: MightBeGiants | September 1, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
I thought everything else like the pregnancy and the firing were a little too petty to get any traction, but this? WOW! I thought the dems were the one that hated America. I’m starting to think she might not make it out of the convention.
Posted by: kburlz | September 1, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Mr. McCain,
This is really unbelievable. You’re ineptness is breathtaking.
Posted by: JJ | September 1, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
hey james–maybe mccain has something in mind—-cindy is getting older.dont put anything past him.
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Being veted for a small town elecion or backwoods place like Alaska is totally different from being veted for a national job like VP of the United States of America. Before this is over, I predict Palin will withdraw her name. What an embarrasment that will be.
Posted by: william | September 1, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
She wants to be VP too see how
she can help that secessionist
party of hers in Alaska.
Posted by: anon | September 1, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
This isn’t a complicated problem. What was it that Obama said of all his extremist friends? These are not the people I once knew, so I must cut my ties to them. Well, Palin can play that game too. This is not the party that I understood it to be, so I separated myself from it.
Posted by: bby | September 1, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Reading the electorate far more unfavorably than the pollsters and the media, the McCain campaign tried a trick play–a deep double reverse flea-flicker. Now instead of 3rd and 15, it’s going to be 4th and 42. As anyone who watched Mike Ditka coach the Bears can tell you, it happens.
Posted by: Phrank | September 1, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
*****************************************
THERE IS NO NEED TO ARGUE ABOUT SARAH PALIN. THIS IS HOW THE GOP THINKS OF HER IN COMPARISON TO JOE BIDEN! END OF STORY!
Posted by: Democrat | September 1, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Everyone has to admitt that this news combined with the stuff about her daugther has made for a tough day on top of the everything taking place with the weather. Why on earth would John McCain put this election at risk when there are so many incredible Republican woman that are proven and known. Rice would have tied John back to the current President however she is incredible. I am really questioning the first big decision John had to make seems really rushed. He will be lucky he can surrived this mistake.
Posted by: davido | September 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Obama has a law degree and a degree in International Relations, has taught Constitution law (10 years) while he was a state senator for eight years and is now a U.S. Senator of the United States of America. Obama has traveled to MANY foreign countries over the years and has met with many foreign leaders. And over the past 19 months he has ran one of the most successful campaigns – people and budget – that has ever been run in American history.
Palin is NOT qualified to be VP and didn’t even have a passport until 2007. She has a degree in Journalism for goodness sake! Her time as mayor is laughable – the town was very small and she had only two duties according to the towns job description: 1) to break the vote if it was a tie, and 2) to cut ribbons if a new business opened. She has LESS than 2 years experience as a governor of a state that has a very LOW population. Her husband works for an OIL company. Palin is pro-OIL and pro-life. Sarah Palin is under legislative investigation for abuse of power of an elected official.
The choice is clear here… Obama/Biden is the only sane choice!
Posted by: Leah | September 1, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Carrie,
There’s a lot we still don’t know about Sarah Palin, but so far, something pretty major has come out every day.
She’s under investigation in Alaska for abusing her power as governor. This is a serious offense.The man she chose to replace the one she fired for allegedly person reasons, had to resign within two weeks due to a scandal of his own. She is said to pick “cronies” instead of qualified people.
She was almost recalled as mayor of Wasilla and left them in financial ruin.
Her views appear to be very extreme. She was the member of an organization in Alaska that wanted to secede from the union.
She’s against a woman’s right to choose, even in cases of incest or rape.
She thinks man has nothing to do with causing global warming.
She wants to sue the EPA to have the polar bear removed from the endangered species list.
She doesn’t believe in evolution, and wants creationism taught in the schools.
And we’ve learned this in the first 3 days. What NEXT? And you trust McCain’s judgment that she is his “soulmate?” Very romantic, but I’m afraid he’s already got a wife. What’s the matter with that old geezer anyway?
Posted by: sedonakaren | September 1, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
I think the devoted rightys posting their support for the thoroughly discredited Governor Palin would be doing Senator McCain a big favor by not continuing to embarrass themselves and their party. Over 18 million people have “vetted” Senator Obama — he beat a strong field of seasoned opponents to win his party’s nomination is a close race.
All the Rezko, Ayers, and Wright stories in the world couldn’t stop him over all the months of an astonishingly tough campaign, but Palin’s own dishonesty and stupidity has all but destroyed her in just a few days. There is absolutely no comparison between the two, and you folks make fools of yourselves when you attempt to make one.
I have my policy differences with Senator Obama, and he’s obviously nobody’s “savior” or “messiah,” — but as a pure politician, he’s absolutely transcendent as a writer, an orator, an organizer, and an inspiration to his supporters. Governor Palin is a naive backwoods tyro at best — and an irresponsible parent, a wacky religious fanatic, a petty abuser of power, a blatant hypocrite, and/or an openly disloyal American citizen as worst.
That said, this is not about the obviously unvetted, unqualified Palin — it’s all about the badly tarnished character, clearly unsuitable temperament, and severely deficient judgment of the formerly respectable Senator John Sidney McCain.
If Palin doesn’t step aside, R.I.P. GOP. If Palin steps aside, R.I.P. GOP. As McCain’s fellow pilots often put it, “He’s screwed the pooch.”
Posted by: Bruce | September 1, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Palin wants Alaska to secede from the union? That, on top of Troopergate and the teenage unwed pregnant high school daughter is more than I can stand. My entire life I’ve been a Republican, but after eight years of Bush this is too much. From now on, call me an Obamacan!
Posted by: derek jacobs | September 1, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
No moral lessons for your daugther? you are also a failed mother. this is not a role mother america needs at the oval office period!
Posted by: Adams | September 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
She’ll pull in the secessionist
vote for Republican party.
Posted by: anon | September 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
So, let’s see. The first time Governor Palin was proud of her country was when? Uh, when Senator McCain tapped her for vice president?
Posted by: newz4i | September 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
How can she lead America when she doesn’t even want to be an American?
Posted by: fjfjdv | September 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Davido – If he wanted a female candidate, Kay Bailey Hutchison would have been a far better pick and women would have been far less offended. I don’t care for her myself, but that choice would have indicated more sound judgement.
Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Davido – If he wanted a female candidate, Kay Bailey Hutchison would have been a far better pick and women would have been far less offended. I don’t care for her myself, but that choice would have indicated more sound judgement.
Posted by: kat | September 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
I’m trying to get a handle on this Alaskan nationalism. It goes beyond a state rights doctrine. It is something that people who live in the lower 48 might not appreciate.
Posted by: Bison | September 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
The Republicans have done nothing (past 8 years). They are spending billions of dollars a month in a war that they created. That money must be invested in our schools, health care for Americans, our roads, and more (in the USA). With this record, how in the world the Republicans are asking us to vote for Mr. McCain? The Republicans had their chance and they lost it: EIGHT YEARS. Enough is enough. Now we have to vote for the Obama/Biden ticket. Sorry Republicans you lost the opportunity we gave you.
Posted by: Patty | September 1, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
All that talk of drilling ANWR and developing Alaska’s infrastructure is looking a mighty sweet deal for the United States of America right now!
Posted by: cact | September 1, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
If McCain wins the presidency and something happens to him (especially given his age), Sarah Palin could be President. If Obama wins the presidency and something happens to him, Joe Biden could be President. This country still has a lot at stake, including our situation in Afghanistan as well as Iraq. I think I’d feel be more confident with a VP Biden as President.
Posted by: em | September 1, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Country First? It sounds like Palin’s country is the Republic of Alaska.
Posted by: fjfjdv | September 1, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Why does Sarah Palin hate America?
Posted by: ObamaLovesYou | September 1, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
I’m sure Republicans will recognize that, given this news, it’s totally fair to question Sarah Palin’s patriotism. Either that, or they’ll apologize for calling Barack and Michelle Obama unpatriotic. One of those two things is bound to happen….any second now….
Posted by: Joanna | September 1, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
A question: Between Palin and Gustav, has this been the worst Labor Day in the history of the Republican party?
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
I just read on huffpost that the gop is NOT considering removing Palin as mccain’s running mate.
Posted by: AB | September 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Em,
I agree with you!!!! I trust Biden as VP.
Posted by: Patty | September 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
i am waiting to see it come out that palin and her oil man husband have a whole lot of oil money that they shouldnt—would almost take bets on this one wait and see.
Posted by: rodney | September 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
OK how is this not making headlines? I understand Gustav but serously…she was a member of the AIP not friends with people affiliated with the organization BUT a card carrying AIP member!
Posted by: SEB | September 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
jschmidt
Obama does not “hang with firends who hate America.” You probably know that already, so it’s not likely anything else will convince you to stop saying it anyway.
Posted by: jock59801 | September 1, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Since Palin wants Alaska to be it’s own separate nation – this explains why she didn’t want her son Trig to be born in Texas and she spent 12 hours flying back to Alaska to have him!!! Maybe she was planning on running as President of Alaska!
Palin is very UN-American!
Posted by: Leah | September 1, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Palin is about two stories short of being on the Jerry Springer Show.
Go Jerry, Go Jerry, Go Sarah, Go Sarah!
Posted by: Siant Genesius | September 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
This is very disappointing. How can anyone support someone who obviously hates America. We bought Alaska and we have the military to overthrow any type of coup in Alaska. Sad that John McCain chose this woman after one phone call.
Posted by: Iraq Vet | September 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
That Palin’s teenage daughter
became pregnant is not the
issue. What the voters would
like to know is whether the
infant son she claims to be
her fifth child is really hers
or it is the first child of the
daughter who’s now pregnant.
Posted by: anon | September 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
I agree with posters who say that Palin will be gone before too long. I would say shortly after the convention, since they don’t want any more distractions before McCain’s acceptance speech. As long as she’s on the ticket she will be a major distraction and as shown by many many news outlets she IS the issue. McCain needs to cut his losses and go for Romney or Pawlenty.
Posted by: sparky | September 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Good Lord McCain has lost it! How could he hire this nut?!?
Posted by: Pete | September 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Even If Levi Johnston of Wasilla, Alaska Wasn’t Planning On Getting Married Last Week, You Better Believe He Is Now.
ALASKA FIRST!
Posted by: wassila | September 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
McCain/Palin are the leaders we need. They are the best example of what our nation was founded on (God,family and the respect for life)! Obama/Biden lack these values………….
Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
The republicans better get rid of the woman…..FAST. The longer she stays on the ticket…..the more dirt will be found.
Posted by: Raider | September 1, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Why does Sarah Palin hate America?
Posted by: lucky_bamboo | September 1, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
“Not God Bless America but God Damn America” – Obama 08 – proud member for 20 years.
Posted by: Mike | September 1, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Funny, comparison with Obama’s mother, one thing for, Obama’s mother dad was not running to become vice-president of the USA. And worse, this lady has a lot of bagages. Since Mc Cain did not vet her, every minute there is a new discovery. Mc Cain did not even research the local news database, nor her acuser. Which means, we are vetting her for Mc Cain. Like Bush, one thing we can expect from Mc cain is to go to war on little information. Like Bush, Sarah Palin will hire people in her party, and fire people who are not in her party in the federal offices. Like Bush she will go to war with sadam because he tried to kill his daddy. These guys’ judgments are impaired when it comes to personal issues. Vote for them if you want to put the country at risk.
Posted by: schill | September 1, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
She is more american than any other candidate with much more experince than barack osama. She will fix things up as she has been doing as Alaska’s best governor!! Go Palin Go!!
Posted by: Mike | September 1, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Palin: God Bless Alaska, Alaska
First, Alaska Always
Posted by: anon | September 1, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Since 1980, the Republican Party has used the issue of family values to attract socially conservative voters. While family values remains a rather vague concept, social conservatives usually understand the term to include some combination of the following principles. Which include…
Support for “abstinence education” exclusively regarding risks associated with early sexual activity such as teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases while not teaching such topics of sex education as human sexual behavior, safe sex and birth control. McCain has droped the ball on this pick. He has given the election to Obama with this “trailer trash” of a pick. I’m writing in “Mitt”
Posted by: BeBe | September 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
She is a TRAITOR! The Republican’s are selling us all out to big oil!
Posted by: WOW | September 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Phony Patriot,
I don’t need to brag about what I’ve done for the troops or this country like you do.
If you want to question Obama’s or other people’s patriotism, don’t cry about it when it’s served right back at you.
Posted by: KenM | September 1, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Look at the facts. Sarah Palin is defiantly the most extreme right-winger ever to be at the head of a major party ticket the Civil War. It is not an exaggeration to say that she never would have gone anywhere in politics had she been a male. We know this because dozens of men have run on her platform and always lost. Look at her positions:
Abortion: Solidly “pro-life”, she thinks abortion should be illegal in all circumstances except to save the life of the mother. That includes making abortion illegal in cases of rape and incest.
Education: Favors teaching creationism or some alternatives to evolution in science classes.
Sex-Ed: Opposes all sex education except abstinence only programs.
Gay marriage: Supports Constitutional ban on gay marriage and even opposes domestic partnership or giving any rights to gay couples such as inheritance rights or health care.
Death penalty: Supports the death penalty even for non-lethal crimes.
Gun rights: Member of the NRA and opposes basically all gun regulation.
Environment: Does not believe that Global Warming is man-made. Opposes listing polar bears as endangered. Supports hunting of predator species. Supports drilling in ANWAR and off of America’s coasts.
Women’s issues: Has voiced support for equal pay for men and women but has opposed legislation that would actually help to bring it about.
Posted by: Jeff | September 1, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Dan Quale is on his knees tonight, thanking God for Sarah Palin.
Posted by: trent | September 1, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
For the person who commented about Hawaii’s state motto read a little history about the state and you will realize that we overthrew a sovereign government because of certain other wars. Wow people I mean come on if you want to say something back it up with a little fact. Leave Bristol alone, yes it does focus on some crappy parenting skills it was a mistake!!! I hope people can forgo the name calling and lets try not to be so partisan. I am sure that half of you here do not even know what you are arguing about. Do some research and get informed, then come back and have an intelligent discussion. The best way to create change is to get involved! Not just sit and respond to emotional crap stirred up by Republicans or Democrats.
Posted by: Levi | September 1, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Thank God, Gov. palin didn’t attend Obama’s Trinity church for 20 years. In the famous words of Rev. Wright: “G* D* America”. All of the sudden, Gov. Palin looks better and better…
Posted by: Angie in Jacksonville | September 1, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Wow. The media have done more digging into Palin’s background in four days than they have into Obama’s for the past 18 months.
Posted by: James from Hampstead | September 1, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Please McCain, do the right thing and dump her!
Posted by: Billy | September 1, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Used to respect McCain but no more. Is he in denial that especially being 72 & multiple cancer survivor, his VP pick is super important to security of U.S.? Yet he picks a woman with absolutely no credentials to possibly be called to be commander in chief. How irresponsible, not to mention what an insult to the many highly qualified women in his own party.
Posted by: Carol | September 1, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
So the daughter couldn’t have been pregnant BEFORE because she’s pregnant NOW, right?
And nobody will be allowed to see her NOW because it’s private family business, right?
How long before the “current” pregnancy ends in “miscarriage”?
Any bets?
Posted by: 08AMA ALL THE WAY! | September 1, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Hey repubs…just think
By the time you wake up in the morning, that’s another 7 HOURS that more dirt can be found out about Palin.
Palin….the gift that just keeps on giving !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Raider | September 1, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
At first I thought “Quayle II”. Now I’m thinking “Eagleton II”.
Way to go, Maverick.
Posted by: Peter Principle | September 1, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
You can’t spin secession.
Posted by: sloegin | September 1, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
“Country First”….hmm. Does that mean Alaska or the USA for Governor Palin? When you’ve been a member of a party that advocates secession from our country, should you be in the running to be our Vice President? Maybe she can try for Vice President of Alaska.
Posted by: Christina | September 1, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
So ABC is taking the word of an official of this “fringe” party that Palin was a member and uses the example that councilwoman Palin had the gall to attend a convention in the town she represented? Whatever….
Posted by: idiots | September 1, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Too bad his name isn’t Jerry McCain, because Palin looks more and more like a tabloid show guest
Here’s a final thought for you, McCain: DUMP PALIN BEFORE YOUR CAREER, AND HERS, ARE RUINED
Posted by: Goon | September 1, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
I am fairly concerned that John McCain is losing his mental faculties.
My god, he picks a ** SEPARATIST ** with views that allign with Timothy McVeigh? Did McCain have ** any idea ** what he was doing?
McCain’s mental decline is frightening.
Posted by: Mary Resden | September 1, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
I will preserve, protect and
defend the Constitution of
Alaska.
Palin
Posted by: anon | September 1, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Oh my God!! This is too funny!!
Posted by: countallthevotes | September 1, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Why have you ignored one of the most outrageous aspects of this story? That is, that the founder of the AIP is quoted as saying,
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” -Joe Vogler, founder, Alaskan Independence party.
Clearly, this is a secessionist party, why else would it organize? To reaffirm Alaska’s statehood? And, it’s acceptable for Ms. Palin to be a member of a group THAT WAS FOUNDED ON PRINCIPLES CONDEMNING AMERICA?
Seems like this is on a par with what Rev. Wright said. Of course, Trinity UCC was not founded to condemn the US like this group was, but merely its leader expressing an aberrant opinion. For Palin to be a member of this group which makes no bones about its secessionist ideals basically says she doesn’t think America is good enough for her beloved Alaska. In any case, this should not be taken lightly.
Posted by: JPH | September 1, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
There are a few folks here that claim the scrunity on Palin is unfair. They are comparing the coverage of Biden and Palin. Biden and Obama have been in this thing for the last 2 years. Biden has been in Public Service for decades. Obama is relative new to the national scene, but he ran the toughest campaign against a Washington veteren – the Clintons, and he succeeded. This unknown lady just came out 3 days ago. We know next to nothing about this lady, so naturally there will be more news story about her. McCain is 72 years old. I know people understand how serious McCain’s VP is. The reality is McCain is old with health issue, so his VP pick is even more important. Where have all the common sense gone? These people need to think before they open their mouth.
Posted by: Hane | September 1, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Hmm..I agree with Palin. There are times I’d LOVE to be separated from some of the idiotic things Congress does!
Posted by: angus | September 1, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Obama has more excess baggage than she does.
Posted by: seah | September 1, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
We have REAL issues to concern ourselves with…like the economy, war in Iraq, global warming, curing cancer, price of gasoline, people’s ability to buy a home, the folks who are suffering because of Gustav.
I thought Obama directed his supporters to focus on the folks needing help because of the Hurricane. Listen to him, that would be a better use of your time.
McCain because he is truly a compassionate man is focused on helping others, the victims of Hurricane Gustav.
Perhaps you should take a lesson from the people you so willing attack.
At least Senator Obama has the sense to do so!!!
McCain/Palin08
Women Defending Democracy
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
We all want energy and oil Independant don’t we all and to save or nation don’t we for all Americans???
Posted by: GG | September 1, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
i love McCain! Palin is the gift that keeps on giving! i wonder what Palin will tomorrow! the GOP is pathetic!
Posted by: N | September 1, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Alaskans kinda feel like
native Americans it seems.
Posted by: anon | September 1, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
jTo Blameamericalast. Re Obama and flag pins. Watcg a video of McCain introducing Palin for the first time. No flag pin. She has one, but he doesn’t.
Posted by: docallen001 | September 1, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
I admit that I am an Obama/Biden supporter. I will also say that if McCain won the election with a running mate that could step in to be President if something, God forbid, happened to McCain, I could at least not be fearful with McCain being President. But I am truly fearful of the Republicans and McCain now. They are trying to fool the American public into believing that the Governor of a state of 700,000 people with 1.5 years of experience is the most qualified female Republican (Senator Snowe would have been fine) to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency by arguing she is more qualified than Senator Obama? Please…..Obama has been vetted by the American public in the last 19 months winning his party’s nomination winning over 18,000,0000 votes, having been involved in 21 debates and answering numerous tough questions from the national political media about domestic and foreign policy. Governor Palin has not yet had even had one press conference, and she tries to compare herself to Hillary Clinton in two appearances with McCain? I just cannot believe that McCain and the Republicans are putting my country first with this lie. And if McCain truly believes this, he is truly incompetent. I pray, for the sake of our country, that the Republicans are not successfull.
Posted by: Ed in Michigan | September 1, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Betty: When you write in all caps you appear TO BE YELLING AT US…Calm down and learn to use the shift function.
Posted by: tank chop | September 1, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Long live the Alaskan Independence Party! To hell with the United States!
Posted by: Alaska will RISE | September 1, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
If this matters Rev Wright should really matter.
Posted by: The Truth | September 1, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Hey, jschmidt –
You’re an example of sort of folks who really ought to consider putting a sock in it. Obama is thoroughly vetted after many months of hard campaigning — if there was anything in his past that disqualified him, the MSM, and especially the many outlets owned by that Australian robber baron, Murdoch (e.g. “Fox News Channel”), would have run it up the flagpole and gotten a salute.
That didn’t happen and Obama won against the formidable Clinton machine and a bunch of other opponents who were *all* much more qualified than Governor Palin — including former Alaska Senator Gravel (they do seem to grow them a bit nutty up there, don’t you think? Something in the water?)!
Anyhow, do consider giving it rest for a while — the McCain campaign has sent a bunch of PR flacks and lawyers up north and I suspect it won’t be long before we won’t have Palin to kick around any more.
Posted by: Bruce | September 1, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Wow, amazing. This crystallizes the problem with the Democratic party. You idiotic radicals care if Sarah Palin was in a group that favored a strong Alaska but not if Obama had bomber friends, America-hating mentors, and a racist for a VP choice. What is wrong with you????
Posted by: LiberalsAreIdiots | September 1, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I am scared to death… you all are on here making JOKES, but there is no way in the world this Palin can be a heartbeat away from the presidency. She wil put our whole countr at risk. The media needs to do their JOB and find everyting they can out… this is not a joke you guys.
Posted by: foolsenough | September 1, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
jock59801 if you don;t think Rev. Wright and former Weatherman bomber Ayers don;t hate America than you better read more on your candidate.
Posted by: jschmidt | September 1, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Sarah Palin = Thomas Eagleton, but worse
Great choice, McCain . . . FOR OBAMA.
lol
Posted by: ObamaLovesYou | September 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Holy cow…
Ben Smith at the Politico is right when he writes: “I can’t remember the last introduction to the national scene this rocky, and it gets worse every hour — and even before the investigative reporters have settled in to Anchorage.”
McCain made a BIG and costly mistake with this featherweight mom.
The GOP should be FURIOUS. I am for sure.
Posted by: elephant | September 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
You call this dirt???
I want so much crap thrown at this woman she resigns!!
Obama was supposed to nominate a woman!!
I am still seathing with hatred over this and it has been a couple of days passed now. I spent serious money on Obama and was assured that Hillary would be on the ticket.
Well, where is she? Nowhere.
Now they have a woman on the GOP ticket when Obama should have had one and had the perfect ticket!
Damnit!
Don’t tell me to calm down either. I am worried!
With Bush’s approval ratings this election should have been in the tank for Obama.
He should be beating McCain by atleast 80%. He isn’t.
It is way closer than I like and now there is a woman on that ticket!
Way to go Obama! Your people have just ensured a McCain victory when you had everything within your fingers to seal the deal.
I want my money back!!!
Posted by: Jan K | September 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
my goodness! She hasn’t even been the vp candidate for a week and I’ve already heard a ton of bad things about her…I guess McCain should have met with her more than one time before picking her. As a woman, I’m insulted. She is not Hillary Clinton!!!!!
Posted by: itsjustme | September 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Palin makes Obama look like John Adams.
Palin is fast becoming a joke. Punching bag if you will.
Posted by: JJ | September 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Check the polls
Apparently no one got the memo on Palin’s experience Argument. Look at the numbers.
You have flew over the coocoos nest. For your experience argument: The truth is Obama had more elected official experience then Hillary. Not only was Obama a state Senator for 8 years he was U.S Senator for 3 years. Obama came from Illinois (12% African American) and the tough and complicated Illinois system. By the way republican Gov George Ryan was convicted of a felony in Illinois. Obama is a Harvard grad in law, and Columbia grad in International relations and has visited 19 countries.
Gov. Palin was Mayor for 4 years and Gov for 2 years of Alaska. One of the least populous States. She has a B.S. degree in Journalism from Idaho.
I’ll take my 11 years to your 6 years.
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
The media goes after Gov. Palin, just like they done to Hillary. The very idea of a woman in a high government position scares the establishment! She has done nothing wrong except performed a great job for the taxpayer. The media and the kool-aid drinking democrats should be ashamed. Gov. Palin will be our Vice-President!!!
Posted by: sally in wet jacksonville | September 1, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Barack Obama, spit in the face of 18 million Hillary Clinton supporters when he chose Joe Bidden to be his running mate.
Barack Obama’s no vote on the Iraq War was his main campaign attack against Hillary Clinton YET he chose Joe Bidden who voted FOR the War in Iraq.
Is this good judgement?
Both Hillary Clinton and Joe Bidden didn’t think so that is why they both supported John McCain, Joe Bidden even wanted to be his VP choice.
The Democrat party is a big sham!
Posted by: Kyle | September 1, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
There is nothing intelligent about McCain at all,This moron won the G.O.P nomination months before Obama,yet he had no initiative of his own in choosing his own v.p,he was only there waiting for Obama to pick first,he only thought of countering Obama’s v.p pick,so his dimwitism led to his desperate choice of unvetted v.p since time is not on his side,his often talked about experience(26yrs) is just rubbish, if his judgement,if in fact the most important decision of his political life is this(iresponsible mother with zero experience)then the evidence is there for the people with good sense of reasoning to see,this man will be far worse than bush if elected,there is alternative to this risk called mcCain…….. Ron paul,Nader or Obama will save us.
Posted by: Adams | September 1, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Bruce-Don;t tell me Obama is qualified.
You would have expected Obama to accomplish something in almost 4 years. He passed 1 bill which he took the credit for but did none of the work, he never had a meeting of the Senate Foreign Relations subCommittee on Afghanistan, which he chairs and has never been around much since he walked in the door since he has been campaigning for President the whole time. As a State Senator he managed to get a housing bill passed that ended up rewarding his friends, and was substandard in construction. And on the Annenberg Project for better schools, millions of dollars were wasted when he was in charge and with nothing done. COmbine that with the associates he has that hate America, bombed America and cheated Americian, and you have the most inexperienced unqualified candidate with no leadership skills. Palin has challenged big oil in Alaska, she has been an administrator as governor, an she has more leadership experience than Obama. Obama is unqualified for the job.
Posted by: jschmidt | September 1, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
GOTTA LOVE THOSE SEXIST DEMOCRATS WHO VALUE DIVERSITY IN EVERYTHING BUT THOUGHT!!! Disgraceful. But then again so is that other Democrat… John McCain!!!
Posted by: argh! | September 1, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
As a committed conservative, I have to say that I have become so dismayed by the choice of Palin, and the ensuing chaos of her disastrous family life, that I am giving up on McCain. He touts his experience, but if he’s so out-to-lunch that he can’t get his VP selection right, how can we trust him to make the million life and death decisions that a president needs to make every day? I don’t like Obama, but he’ll probably make a better president that McCain will…
Posted by: Conservaprov | September 1, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Re: Where are the Palin lovers? Where are ye hiding? This woman will go down as the worst pick in Presidential history.
You must be kidding. Comparing this to Rev. Wright and William Ayers. Your October surprise will come soon! It’s going to be good!
Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
“What the polls don’t tell you, is how many people changed the channel, to something more exciting than that boring speech.”
Actually ratings are done by increment over the speech.
Over 58 million people watched most of the speech. And accoding to a news site poll 68% said it made them more likely to vote for him.
12% said it made them less likely.
Welcome to the 12%
Posted by: Ryan C | September 1, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
If she ever belonged to a political group advocating secession from the United States, I’d say that pretty much disqualifies her from holding the second-highest office in the land.
Posted by: no right of secession | September 1, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
All that “McCain – Palin” printing down the drain. Shame.
Posted by: Mel | September 1, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
@ Posted by: Piquetone | Sep 1, 2008 10:20:34 PM
Ha Ha. That was hillarious.
Posted by: itsjustme | September 1, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Worst VP pick ever. Why not Olympia Snow?
Posted by: ObamaLovesYou | September 1, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Sarah Palin asked for Resignation from her City’s Managers after becoming the Mayor as a test of loyalty.
So, how many people will be asked to resign if she becomes the VP?
Posted by: Kumar | September 1, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
To Tan Chop:
I happen to be a moderate progressive Democrat who sees that my Party was high jacked by a bunch of far left wing nuts calling themselves “progressives.”
It is not “Left leaning progressives,” that are dangerous; it is the left wing fanatics that are a danger to democracy.
Spare me your claiming the high ground of the “founding fathers.” Obviously you have not read much of what many of the “founding fathers” had to say. Your ideas, to the contrary, ARE A REAL DANGER TO DEMOCRACY!!
Rock whatever you want to; Obama/Biden will loose in November.
McCain/Palinino8
Women Defending Democracy
Vote Country Defore Party!!
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Maybe McCain has a thing for beauty queens. Okay, cheap shot.
All these posts by “PUMAs” so hard to find at the DNC confirms to me that the whole PUMA thing was just some Rovian front. No self-respecting Hillary fan would embrace this woman who is against pay equity, thinks birth control is murder, and pretty much forced her daughter to become pregnant with her “just don’t” approach to sex education.
And now she’s a separatist to boot.
Someone mentioned Reverend Wright. He has 2 tours of duty in Vietnam and personally helped LBJ survive heart surgery. And Pailin? What has she done for America? Drive a small town into debt? Served on the PTA? Don’t make me laugh.
Posted by: johnny | September 1, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Ha!!! Sarah Palin has a BS in journalism from University of Idaho. Obama went to Columbia Univ. and has a law degree from Harvard, was editor of the law review, taught constitutional law at Univ. of Chicago Law School. To hell with your experience argument – I’ll go for the brilliant person instead.
Posted by: dattexas | September 1, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Palin is not ready to be President of the Senate. She has minimal experience in a state where there is a tons of republican corruption. We warn you guys over the weekend that this was a rushed decision and now we find out that Miss Alaska First is undercutting every message McCain had.
I guess McCain going negative backfired big time. By the way McCain has to reform credentials beside McCain-Feingold. 26 years 1 reform.
Obama/Biden
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Where are all of the Republican
senators, congress members and governors out supporting Palin on the airwaves?
That’s right: they are not.
Sarah Palin: Why does she hate America?
Posted by: ObamaLovesYou | September 1, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
McCain said she was independent minded…
He just didn’t know how much.
Posted by: The North Will Rise Again | September 1, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
The Obama media is at it again. Obama, the media’s choice for president, not the voters. This witch hunt by the Obama media will, in the long run, help McCain/Palin get elected. The media has given Obama a free pass, we will remember in November. We still remember what happened to Hillary…
The people’s choice: McCain/Palin/PUMA
Posted by: Sylvia B. | September 1, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Avoid this ‘RISK’ called McCain, vote democrat this year,vote Obama/biden the perfect candidates for president and vice president.
Posted by: Adams | September 1, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
being a commonwealth would be a good avenue to follow.” Some advocate statehood — but a fuller statehood than exists now.
She doesn’t know what Palin’s position was.
“It never came up in conversation,” Clark recalls.
========================
Good Lord, what desperation. She didn’t know her position and Clark admits she does not like McCain and talking to ABC whom kinda backs Obama. Look at their blogs’ titles. You guys are going to get a backlash. I hope you keep going. If you think, there’s not a shocker on Obama, dream on.
Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Of course she wanted Alaska to secede from the United States…maybe she still does? She was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party…the key word being independence…as in independent from the U.S. This is a bad joke. Time for a redo, McCain.
Posted by: Boston | September 1, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Damn it, McCain you ageist pig! Ditch Palin and draft Kay Bailey Hutchison, or Elizabath Dole. Someone with experience. Do it now!
Posted by: RWB | September 1, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
A few days ago, most of you whiners were saying that “Alaska doesn’t matter” and “Who cares about Alaska?”
Now you’re upset if these smart folks leave the rest of the country?
Make up your minds.
Posted by: William | September 1, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
A few days ago, most of you whiners were saying that “Alaska doesn’t matter” and “Who cares about Alaska?”
Now you’re upset if these smart folks leave the rest of the country?
Make up your minds.
Posted by: William | September 1, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
There’s lots more Palin news where this AIP story came from, but the best will come from McCain. He’s squirming now and he’ll try to wait out the storm. But the longer he waits the more impossible it’s going to be for him to construct a cover story. What? She always wanted to spend more time with her family? This is all way too good, you cannot make it up!
Posted by: Vinod | September 1, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
McCain-Palin: Change You Can Secede With!
Posted by: Spikeeboi | September 1, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Guess what…….
Palin backfired. Independents are moving to Obama. More men are likely to vote for McCain then women are. New CBS poll.
CNN had a lower sample, and a high decided count (no independents). Gallup has been steady with a higher sample and polls likely voters(excludes new voters). This means Obama is on solid ground.
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
I guess when you pick a running mate w/o actually meeting with her you get to find out about her with the rest of the nation – What a huge mistake. Although I respect McCain’s service to our country – both as a soldier and a senator – his judgment really has to be questioned.
This lady SHOULD NOT be in any position of power, let alone the VP.
Posted by: Nate | September 1, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
the AIP’s MO is to infiltrate other parties to push their agenda. Palin said she’d only take the VP slot if it was ‘good for Alaska’. Vet/Palin didn’t vet Palin!
Posted by: Goon | September 1, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Should have picked Bobby Jindal.
Posted by: Hel | September 1, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Hey, jschmidt –
Didn’t I kindly advise you to stop embarrassing yourself? Senator Obama has more state and federal experience than Abraham Lincoln could cite when he first ran for president in 1860. Case closed — go take American History 101 and get back to me! The choice of Palin, with less than two years of (very small) state experience, torpedoes the whole experience argument anyway — but I figured I’d try to educate you because I’m a loyal American and believe in helping out my fellow citizens as required.
Posted by: Bruce | September 1, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
“The adviser insists the group is a communications “jump” team . . . ”
They call them smoke jumpers out West. They parachute in to fight out of control wild fires.
Posted by: Pug | September 1, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
S.B
Guilt by association. Republicans have been a part of one of the most corrupt, self-serving group of lying, war mongers for over 8 years with a Republican congress that is been in power from the 80s till recently.
Wright is stuck in the 70s but the Republicans want power now.
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
I was on the fence as a Clinton supporter but while I still have reservations about Obama, there is absolutely no way now I could consider voting for McCain. Obama is still on my list, but McCain, due to this Palin choice, is definitely off it.
Posted by: Hellkamp123 | September 1, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Obama will never implement Hillary’s Proposals. Obama has backtracked on almost every important issue that he has voted on while running for POTUS!!
Obama is an example of the worst kind of machine politician. Please spare me using Senator Hillary Clinton to try to garner votes for Obama.
I will NEVER vote for Obama/Biden. There are millions of other former Hillary supporters just like me. So JUST GET OVER IT!!
NOBAMA/Bidenin08
Women Defending Democracy!!
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
Damn, Obama does have a lot in common with Lincoln!
lol, McCain / failin’ Palin ’0-never
Posted by: Pete | September 1, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
I thought there might be something interesting here, but all I can find is “as a lifelong Republican…(snip) I won’t vote for McCain blah, blah, blah” (3 times, thanks Linda AKA I’m a Dem but I want you to think I’m Repulican), “McCain is an idiot” yada, yada, yada, “what a fool” etc.
I am a democrat (true), never voted for a Republican(false, both McGovern and Dukakis sucked so bad I couldn’t do it), and I have so many unanswered questions about Obama that I can’t see myself voting for him. I don’t care about Palin’s moose hunting, or her pregnant daughter (congratulations!) or her husbands DUI. I don’t care if, during the debate with Biden she breast feeds the kid on national television. Maybe McCain did do a lousy job of vetting Palin, but we can’t look at her and not recognize that she is running for the #2 position on the ballot and the person that we have nominated for the #1 position has been vetted less. Rezko, Phleger, Auchi, Ayers and who knows who else, all with questions and all questions unanswered. Hell look at Massachusetts, they got Duval Patrick, friend of Axlerod, Obama, and Jesse Jackson. He came in on a similar platform, “together we can” and two years later we can what has yet to be answered. He got a new car and a multi million dollar estate and 2 thousand of his friends got high paying jobs while he was cutting services and raising fees but other than that he’s an affirmative action hire, someone that has no business doing the job but because of his color you have to hire him. He may destroy everything you’ve spent your life working for but you feel good because you hired him. I look at Obama and I see another Patrick. No thanks! I think I’m going to sit this one out so that when someone says this guy sucks I can look them in the eye and say “Don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for him.”
Posted by: Jim S | September 1, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
I’m tired of hearing about Reverend Wright – how many of you were marines like him? He was a cardio pulmonary technician and worked on LBJ – I guess so many of you know more than the Secret Service about him?
He’s a black preacher who has done more to uplift the poor and the down trodden in his neighborhood – I challenge you weasels to share just what good works you have done in your lives.
Give it a break because you sound like nasty little five year olds.
Posted by: Disgusted | September 1, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
“And this compares to being a memvber of hate-filled black power church for 20 years, ”
LOL nice try, but as a netizen, you surely must know by now that the church has always been integrated and that Wright and Pfelger (a white man btw) both marched with MLK. Obama ditched him because like a lot of black leaders (who he has the same issue with – Like Jesse Jackson) he frames the issues racially when they don’t have to be framed that way. That was really what split them up. But Wright himself? A better American than most. How many presidents lives did YOU save???
Posted by: johnny | September 1, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
I will NEVER vote for Obama/Biden. There are millions of other former Hillary supporters just like me. So JUST GET OVER IT!!”
We are over it. No one believe you or the rest of the fake Hillary supporters anymore.
Obama has solidified his Democratic support post convention. That is what has been driving his bounce.
Real Hillary supporters are supporting Obama vs the antiwoman agenda of McCain and Palin. No Hillary supporter would ever vote for a ticket that has someone calling for the teaching of creationism or that the pill is a form of abortion.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 1, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Bruce- figured you wouldn;t read the articles. By the way does Obama think there is still 57 states.
Posted by: jschmidt | September 1, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” – Joe Vogler, founder of the Alaskan Independence Party.
Damn, there goes the Reverend Wright “issue”. right along with the experience “issue”.
Well, at least McCain still has Iraq and the booming Bush economy. I bet they are hoping the hurricane hits Florida full force on Wednesday during Palin’s speech. They got lucky today with Cheney and Bush not canceling.
Posted by: Pug | September 1, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
There is nothing intelligent about McCain at all,This moron won the G.O.P nomination months before Obama,yet he had no initiative of his own in choosing his own v.p,he was only there waiting for Obama to pick first,he only thought of countering Obama’s v.p pick,so his dimwitism led to his desperate choice of unvetted v.p since time is not on his side,his often talked about experience(26yrs) is just rubbish, if his judgement,if in fact the most important decision of his political life is this(iresponsible mother with zero experience)then the evidence is there for the people with good sense of reasoning to see,this man will be far worse than bush if elected,there is alternative to this risk called mcCain…….. Ron paul,Nader or Obama will save us.
Posted by: Adams | September 1, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
jschmidt
Blow it out of your ear. Everybody on the planet knew he meant 57 contest because Dems include territories in their primary.
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
I am so glad McCain picked Palin. The left wingers hate her so bad like they do Justice Thomas. McCain/Palin 08!
Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Palin…the gift that keeps on giving.
Republican defenders are a pathetic lot. McCain is out of touch. Way out of touch.
He’s really good at vetting though.
Posted by: Mark | September 1, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
The truth is McCAin put party first. Conservatives love Palin. After all that talk about country first, experience, and being a maverick, He fell right behind his Party. Well he had 8 years of practice voting with Bush.
M
cCain not good as President of the US
Palin not good as President of the Senate
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Palin is an unfit mother.
She is unfit to lead this nation.
Posted by: JJ | September 1, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
MM- thanks for the explanation – it is the first time I’ve heard that explantion and it makes sense. But too bad your buddy Bruce doesn;t read the articles. It is a revelation about Obama’s lack of accomplishments as a State Senator. We all know he hasn;t accomplished anything as a Senator.
Posted by: jschmidt | September 1, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Okay, Poulin WAS a member for a year or so. I did read the entire “Platform of the Alaska Indepentant Party.” However, I read the current, 2008 version.
Who’s to say that it has remained the same for the past FOURTEEN YEARS?
Not like she was a member and attended for TWENTY YEARS *(Cough)* Obama
Posted by: midasallen | September 1, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
OK here’s Palin’s plan: (1) become VP with John’s win (2) send several billion dollars in pork barrel spending to Alaska (3) aid Alaska in seceding, and (4) merge the remaining 49 states into Alaska to form a new nation, the United States of Alaska. That’ll more than demonstrate her Alaskan pride!
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
ANYONE WILL BET….
AFTER A FEW WEEKS PALIN WILL PULL HERSELF OUT OF VP CANDIDACY DUE TO “FAMILY ISSUES” AND TOM RIDGE WILL QUICKLY FILL IN AS VP CANDIATE…
REMEMBER HARRIET MEYERS/ALITO…
AND BY THEN OBAMA SPEECH AND DEM CONVENTION WILL BE FORGOTTEN DUE TO PALIN STORY…
MISSION ACOMPOLISHED…
ANY BETS ON THIS…..
Posted by: Truh | September 1, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
Why is Sarah Palin carrying her fifth baby, who has down syndrome, around on the campaign trail? Is she that careless to put her child in an environment like that?
Posted by: gotquestions | September 1, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Wow. Could be a show-stopper.
Wackadoodle time!
Posted by: Oomingmak | September 1, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Sarah Palin opposes birth control, including for married couples.
Is that good enough for you?
Posted by: framecop | September 1, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
As a former HRC supporter I am firmly in the Obama Camp since the convention. Sorry McCain, you and Palin are going down, down down……
Posted by: Chipo1965 | September 1, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Go Free Alaska first then free Tebet
Posted by: FreeAlaska | September 1, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
It is time the voters of America grow up and act like responsible citizens – let’s listen to the debates and vote on November 4th. Most of your comments are not factual and most are assuming “just because” of this and that the results will be – grow up and try to use your brain – who knows you might begin to mature and be a responsible citizen in many ways! What’s with all these personal vendettas? As for myself I would like to know why we the American people cannot demand both “Parties” work for the common good of all after the elections. What’s the deal if an elected official steps over party lines to vote if the bill is for the good of all – outlaw all these add on bills to make the the key ones pass!! Perhaps the two “Party” system has become a failure over the past hundred years because of Politics “played” by our elected Politicians! We are at a different time and place in history! Stand up America and stop yelling at each other – start making constructive comments. I guess the internet would not survive if most of you didn’t have a place to vent your own aggressions!!
Posted by: Ron Kase | September 1, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
McCain should send her back to the oblivion,He should make sure she goes back through the bridge of nowhere, or else McCain himself becomes oblivion ,hahahaha.
Posted by: Adams | September 1, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Re: Why is Sarah Palin carrying her fifth baby, who has down syndrome, around on the campaign trail? Is she that careless to put her child in an environment like that?
She’s the baby’s mother.. what in the world is wrong with you. God, the world has truly gone crazy.
Posted by: Christie | September 1, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
To Ryan C.
I would like to clearify something. Palin does not call for the teaching of creationism (she said she would not mind a frank discussion of different views if brought up in a class). Also, Palin does not believe that the pill is abortion. She is a member of “Feminists for Life” which is a group which encourages the use of contraception to avoid the choice of an abortion or not.
When you wrote about a platform that believes the pill is abortion, perhaps you were referring to McCain and his belief that life begins at conception? McCain has never directly said, to my knowledge, that the pill is abortion.
Real Hillary supporters are supporting Obama vs the antiwoman agenda of McCain and Palin. No Hillary supporter would ever vote for a ticket that has someone calling for the teaching of creationism or that the pill is a form of abortion.
Posted by: Makoto | September 1, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Holy crap!!! She’s a secessionist!! Oh my god this has got to be the most dissasterious VP pick ever.
Posted by: Freedomfighter1975 | September 1, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Is the RNC this blatently stupid?
There has to be some sort of stategy to this. Right?
Was this done to McCain on purpose?
I’ve been a republican for 30 yrs.
What in the hell happened?
You owe your supporter a REAL explanation and not just some political mumbo jumbo.
I won’t vote this November.
Posted by: Bob | September 1, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Of course we CAN do it all… but who the hell wants to?
Alaska First 08!
Posted by: elle | September 1, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
gives her question “what could being vice president do for alaska?” new meaning.
Posted by: addy | September 1, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
the mcain camp has desperately tried to painT obama as inexperienced to no avail , now they are trying convince thier party that palin is even more experienced than OBAMA…
i bet they will try to convince us as well that bush cheney yrs are the best the country has ever had.
i know that there are alot of foolish people around who for other reasons will not vote the rite candidate and will do so under the guise that obama is enexperienced..well , the smart people will do the rite thing …vote obama/biden
Posted by: fred | September 1, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
I still can’t find out what was up with Obama and the “New Party.”
Posted by: Wade | September 1, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
It’s hard to attack a woman (Palin) on the issues, when she hasn’t got a resume to work off of. The Alaska legislature only meets for 90 day sessions once a year, so she has 180 days of experience. The only thing that seems to available to us is the fact she was FOR the bridge to nowhere, before she was AGAINST the bridge to nowhere. She was only against it after Alaska became fodder for pork barrel spending.
As for her daughter, it’s a non issue, as for her husbands DUI 20 years ago, do NOT care. As for the religous right in the GOP thinking they have a voice after 8 years of Bush ignoring them, they need to reevaluate their standing in the GOP. The GOP uses them for votes, then just leaves em hanging in the breeze.
Posted by: Scott NH | September 1, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Boy, if this reflects McCain’s decision making, do you really want him to be president?
Posted by: keredte | September 1, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Palin doesn’t give that much about the USA, otherwise she would never have been a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.
She doesn’t give that much about her own family either, otherwise she wouldn’t carry her baby around on the campaign trail, nor would she wish to expose the teenage pregnancy of her 17-years old daughter to the whole wide world.
She may look cute, but she is the opposite: a woman as cold as Alaska itself.
Posted by: cindy | September 1, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Hey, “bb” –
If Obama lacks the experience to be president, then so did Abraham Lincoln, who had even less. Look it up and stop embarrassing yourself!
Posted by: Bruce | September 1, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Alaska First — Always Alaska!
…. so, how does that fit in with the ‘Country First’ slogan McCain is using? They going to flip a coin to see which goes on top of the sign?
Posted by: Country First | September 1, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Well Ryan C:
YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG!!
This Hillary supporter donated over $1,000 to Hillary and worked for her in NJ!!!
You do not speak for women; so stop your condescending SEXIST crap!!
McCain/Palin will win in November. All of your sicko BS will not change that. Have a good time thinking so!!!
NObama/Bidenin08
Women Defending Democracy!!!
McCain for POTUS and Palin for VP!!! Victory in 08
Just Get Over It!!!
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Palin…hey aren’t all those fundamentalists types supposed to make their kids wait until marriage to have sex?
Posted by: alistair | September 1, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Susie in FL,
Then you need to listen REAL hard to what the RNC is saying about Hillary. They are claiming the ONLY thing she EVER did was run for President. The RNC are also saying that Palin is much better than Clinton, because she didn’t “ride her husbands coattails”. The RNC is bashing HRC left and right. Don’t be fooled, they HATE Hillary!!
Posted by: Jeanne from Michigan | September 1, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
When did the Dems all become sexist? I continue to be glad to call myself an Independent. I would never want to be associated with the type of people who I am seeing post here.
Posted by: Deidra | September 1, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Obama visited the halls of congress, just 53 times in three years. Gov. Palin wins, at least she goes to work!!!
Maybe Obama is a part time senator.
Posted by: Alice in Miami | September 1, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
This is so unbelievably scary. McCain’s judgment is seriously impaired. What in the hell was he thinking with this debacle of a VP pick? What else don’t we know about Gov Palin? Seriously, though, to think these two could be the leaders of our nation and the free world in a matter of months is truly frightening
Posted by: Anne | September 1, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
This is so unbelievably scary. McCain’s judgment is seriously impaired. What in the hell was he thinking with this debacle of a VP pick? What else don’t we know about Gov Palin? Seriously, though, to think these two could be the leaders of our nation and the free world in a matter of months is truly frightening.
Posted by: Anne | September 1, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
When are your colleagues, Charlie and George, going to mention this on air?? They were just on and there was no mention of Sarah Palin as an AIP member. When will the fact that she was (maybe still is?) a secessionist be mentioned on TV?
Posted by: Eric | September 1, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
What ever happen to the truth. If i hear those words cheif executive in Re:to Palin one more time i am going to puke!!For crying out loud the woman was a governor for a town as big as as her extended family– and to top it she was a member of a secessionist party–she didn’t want anything to do with America-What makes you people think she is capable to step up if she is called to.What kind of mother with under age children including a young baby will accept a VP position. She belongs at home.
Posted by: Truth-hurts | September 1, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Go Susie in FL!!!
PUMAs know the deal!!! The Democrat Party has been taken over by a bunch of people who care nothing for democracy!!!
We will take our party back.
Hillaryin2012
WOMEN DEFENDING DEMOCACY
Country Over Party!!
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
You ask when are they going to confirm it? When they actually get a real source for hit one can only hope.
When are we going to investigate the Ayers “domestic terrorist” and Obama papers at the Annenberg Center that were kept a secret for the past few months?
Posted by: BlameAmericaLast | September 1, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Wow, she’s not only the least qualified VP nominee in American history… she’s also a total extremist wacko!
It’s a two-fer!
Posted by: ElodieStClair | September 1, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Curious there has been no GOP pundit jumping to Palin’s defense. Pretty dark and very quiet in the woods tonight.
Posted by: doug | September 1, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Hey, truth-hurts. May want to pay attention in elementary school.
You’re not governor of a town, you’re governor of a STATE.
May want to take note for your next exam.
And by the way…Alaska is located way up there on the northwest. May want to check out a globe or an atlas if you own one.
Posted by: BlameAmericaLast | September 1, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Wow…how patriotic of Palin……!!!
Alaskan Independence Party….this is just too too funny??
McCain has gone ’round the bend
Obama-Biden
Posted by: Michigan | September 1, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Sounds to me Mrs. Palin needs to spend more time at home raising some children and less time jockeying into position of Leader of the Free World….
Posted by: patreek | September 1, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
John McCain, please do the right thing and pull this woman off the ticket.
I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” – Joe Vogler, founder of the Alaskan Independence Party
Posted by: Ted | September 1, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Bruce:If you think Obama is in any way comparable to Lincoln, you have already embarassed yourself.
Posted by: bb | September 1, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
And let me add:
McCain/Palin in 08!!!
Get Over It Obamaphiles
You alienated 1/2 of the Democrat Party!!!
Democrats are not r-Obots; most are moderates and the majority will NOT support NoBama/Biden!!!
Women Empowering Democracy!!!
McCain/Palin08
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 1, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Wow chauvenism at its best. It’s okay for a guy to have a young child and have a career, but it is not okay for a woman to have a young child and a career. President Kennedy’s son was born 16 days after he was inaugurated. Nobody ever made any disparaging comments about him
Posted by: Feminism | September 1, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Okay conservatives. You going to really have to explain why this VP candidate was with a political party dedicated to seceeding from my country. Whatsupwiththat? You think Alaska is Quebec?!
Posted by: Gerald Shields | September 1, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Why oh Why when questions arise about serious concerns regarding a republican candidate people drag Senator Obama’s name in it? So funny how the repubs tried to dig up so much dirt on Obama..heck they even manufactured stuff about him and now that the tables are turned they are crying..and screaming Obama look at your liberal supporters… Again you people can dig and ditch out dirt but when the facts are thrown back at you … you can not take it! Perhaps your hypocritcal standards are too high even for yourselves~
Posted by: heidi | September 1, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
The Daily Kos got a little too nutty today with the Palin-as-grandmother-to-her-youngest-child story. I do believe though that she took the plane trip back to Alaska after her water broke to avoid birthing the baby in one of the stinking lower 48.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
So what – Obama is tied to a Weather Underground member. Where’s ABC on that story?
Posted by: Zoo2 | September 1, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Eight presidents have died in office. That’s ONE in FIVE.
Now McCain – a 72-year-old, four-time cancer survivor – wants us to be OK with Miss Alaska one heartbeat away from The Button.
If he was serious about change, there are several qualified Rep. females to be on this ticket. Palin ain’t one of them.
I guess McCain wasn’t satisfied with having a trophy wife, he wanted a trophy VP as well.
Posted by: TerrifiednVegas | September 1, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
MM- I’ll check out your links if you check out the articles I sent you. Happy blogging
Posted by: jschmidt | September 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
paulette in Ocala Fl.
Don’t play the damn race card. There are nothing but white people in Iowa, Oregon, and Washington but McCain isn’t ahead in those states.
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
oh how i bet McCain wishes he could have a do-over…what liars they are to claim they new these little things about Palin…what wonderful judgment (uhhg)…isn’t this cronyism stuff exactly what we are tired of…inexperienced friends and favors at the expense of our nations future and standing in the world…from judges and directors of important organizations to no-bid-contract companies making billions off our children’s piggy banks….
Posted by: patreek | September 1, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
jschmidt
you didn’t send me any articles.
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Enough!! Wake up GOP!! Nominate a real American who truly cares about family values. Nominate Mitt Romney!! It’s not too late!!
Posted by: richard | September 1, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
It’s really difficult, almost impossible, for a sane person to wrap their brain around the grotesque delusions of victory being shown by the liberals on all of the blogs I’ve visited. I suspect the shrinks will be making a lot of money in November.
McCain/Palin 08! Palin/? 2012!
Posted by: ronski | September 1, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Ryan C.: You don’t believe in creation?
Posted by: Mic | September 1, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
The GOP is not going to win in Nov. no matter who McCain chooses. There is a wave of sentiment here that Obama will by far and large win this election.
You are all forgetting that a “national poll” means nothing in an election where it is the electoral votes that matter. If you take the time to look at the state by state polling, Obama is already within 30 EVs of winning and thats w/o Ohio and FL.
Romney wouldn’t need to be on the VP ticket, he knows he can run again in 4 years after McCain loses. In fact, McCain himself knows he’s going to lose and McCain has no use for the religious right, so he picked a “dirty” choice. Someone with baggage that finally kill the GOPs entrenchment with the christian right.
The GOP uses the christian right for votes and then ignores them. What has Bush done for them in the last 8 years? He was no “conservative”.
Posted by: Scott NH | September 1, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
This is information we would like to know too. It seems that nobody knows this either….
Ah . . . Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir
Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um . . . know you are busy and important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and . . . ah . . . I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?
See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.
Hey, you have a nice place here! The wife sees houses like this on TV all the time and says boy she wishes she had digs like this you know? Is that painting real? Really? Wow. I saw something like that in a museum once!
Oh, sorry sir. I didn’t mean to get off the track. So if you could just help me out a minute and give me some details, I will get right out of your way. I want to close this case and maybe take the wife to Coney Island or something. Ever been to Coney Island /No, I didn’t think so. . .
Well, listen, anyways, I can’t seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be ‘locked’ or ‘not available’. I’m sure it’s just some oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are . . . I . . . I . . . have them written down here somewhere . . . oh wait. Sorry about the smears. It was raining out. I’ll just read it to you.
Could you help me please find these things, sir?
Your Occidental College records
Your Columbiaollege records
Your Columbia Thesis paper
Your Harvard College records
Your Selective Service Registration
Your medical records
Your Illinois State Senate records
Your Illinois State Senate schedule
Your Law practice client list
A Certified Copy of your original Birth certificate
Your embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
Your Harvard Law Review articles that were published
Your University of Chicago scholarly articles
Your Record of baptism
Oh hey . . . listen! I know you are busy! Is this too much for you now? I mean tell you what. I will come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, you know? I mean, I know you are busy, so I will just let myself out.. I will be back tomorrow. And the day after.
This is information we would like to know too. It seems that nobody knows this either….
Ah . . . Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir
Excuse me Mr. Obama, I mean Senator Obama, sir. Um . . . know you are busy and important and stuff. I mean running for president is very important and . . . ah . . . I hate to bother you. I will only take a minute ok, sir?
See, I have these missing pieces that are holding me up, and I was wondering sir, if you could take time out of your busy schedule and help me out. You know, no big deal, just some loose ends and things.
Hey, you have a nice place here! The wife sees houses like this on TV all the time and says boy she wishes she had digs like this you know? Is that painting real? Really? Wow. I saw something like that in a museum once!
Oh, sorry sir. I didn’t mean to get off the track. So if you could just help me out a minute and give me some details, I will get right out of your way. I want to close this case and maybe take the wife to Coney Island or something. Ever been to Coney Island /No, I didn’t think so. . .
Well, listen, anyways, I can’t seem to get some information I need to wrap this up. These things seem to either be ‘locked’ or ‘not available’. I’m sure it’s just some oversight or glitch or something, so if you could you tell me where these things are . . . I . . . I . . . have them written down here somewhere . . . oh wait. Sorry about the smears. It was raining out. I’ll just read it to you.
Could you help me please find these things, sir?
Your Occidental College records
Your Columbiaollege records
Your Columbia Thesis paper
Your Harvard College records
Your Selective Service Registration
Your medical records
Your Illinois State Senate records
Your Illinois State Senate schedule
Your Law practice client list
A Certified Copy of your original Birth certificate
Your embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth
Your Harvard Law Review articles that were published
Your University of Chicago scholarly articles
Your Record of baptism
Oh hey . . . listen! I know you are busy! Is this too much for you now? I mean tell you what. I will come back tomorrow. Give you some time to get these things together, you know? I mean, I know you are busy, so I will just let myself out.. I will be back tomorrow. And the day after.
Posted by: Jon | September 1, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
The bottom line here is McCain really screwed up big time in picking this woman as his VP. If this is an example of the good judgement we can expect from him in the Whitehouse….no thanks. I’ll take my chances with the eloquent and educated Barack Obama.
Posted by: Mike | September 1, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
State rivalries in the contiguous states (and Hawaii) tend to be focused mainly in the sports arenas on the college and professional levels. In Alaska it’s a little more serious, a little deeper than that. And a little more psychotic. And the reason why Palin had to get back on Alaskan soil before giving birth to her baby.
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
It seems that she was a member for 2 years then became a Republican, Well I her give credit for not taking 20 years to CHANGE her mind not like Obama who took his political life to CHANGE his mind of being a member of Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church , I guess Palin had the conviction and revelation that AIP is not for them.
Posted by: 2nfer | September 1, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
“Ryan C.: You don’t believe in creation?”
I do not believe in the literal creation. Even if I did I would not want something like that taught as part of education. We’re far enough behind the rest of the world in science, we don’t need our next generation of scientists be dedicated to proving how global warming does not exist, the location of Noah’s ark or intelligent design theory.
Religion is my and my church’s purview for what is taught to my child, not a school.
If you wish for your students to receieve a religious education, there are plenty of choices available to you.
If you need public school to reinforce your religious teaching then you have done a poor job.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 1, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
What’s in it for Alaska, baby?!
Posted by: frankiestage | September 1, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Headline was scandalous, but it got me to read this article. Enough with the conjecture! Let Gov. Palin answer for herself concerning her reasons for joining AIP in her late twenties. It is apparent that the GOP/AIP alliance in Alaska is very powerful (80% approval rating!).
Posted by: ERS NOTE | September 1, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Better states’ rights than the Socialist International, who sent delegates to the DNC last week, or the Open Society Institute (who obviously did too).
At least the AIP doesn’t dream of mushing everyone else outside Alaska into some interdependent “Polar Citizenry” or some such nonsense.
Posted by: Southern Agrarian | September 1, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Jon
You’ll be asking next for Obama’s birth certificate. Well McCain was born in Panama (a military base, so he is US citizen). Accusations are pointless when the majority of all the things you ask for are already available. You can’t get college loans without registering for selective services. And their I got all your information for you.
Posted by: MM | September 1, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Ok this is totally more of the same. If George Bush can pick an Arabian Horse Breeder to be the head of FEMA why is it so hard for folks to believe that John McCain could pick a secessionist to be his running mate? John McCain is out of touch with the American people and this news about Palin it is clear he is out of touch with reality.
Forget the unfortnate news about her daughter, the big picture here is that this woman once belonged to a party that advocates/is considering the succession of Alaska from the USA. We already settled that question with the Civil War.
If this is his VP choice wait until you see his Attorney General and his Secretary of Agriculture!
Sincerely,
Disgusted Arizonan
Posted by: jbell | September 1, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Hillary-Yale Law
Palin-Journalism degree from Idaho
Hillary-35 years experience
Palin-2 years as governor
Comparing Palin to Hillary is an insult to all women.
Posted by: J | September 1, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Let Gov. Palin answer for herself concerning her reasons for joining AIP in her late twenties”
She’s being kept away from the press lest they ask her questions and she give the wrong answers.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 1, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Oh, look at CNN .. interviewing Barack Obama again .giving him free publicity …
CNN SUCKS … THEY ARE PRO-OBAMA …
Obama, they dont need you there …
Posted by: CNNSucks | September 1, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
If Obama is going to keep sniffing cocaine, someone needs to give him a box of hankies so he can clean his nose before appearing in public. Poor guy, he needs a very personal assistant.
Does anyone know the real Obama?????
Posted by: MLK 1950 | September 1, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Look there you go again trying to turn the table…
The Republican party is so quick to scream family values and wholesome clean living when the truth of the matter is you are human beings just like everybody else. So please while you stand in judgement portraying your party as the moral leaders do yourself a favor and get a reality check~You think everyone should live in a glass box and pretend they have no blemishes.. Look across this country their are many problems we are facing such as teenage pregancy, high school drop outs, crimes and that just scratch the surface. The republicans answerto the issues are.. YOUr on your own.. Newsflash…for those God fearing repubs.. God called us to serve and help one another… You hypocrites!
Your party condemns people and claims that they are the God fearing party. Your Rovian stooges belittle a man’s character to push their greedy adgenda as millions of Americans are constantly lied to and suffer… YOU HaVE NO idea~ WAKE UP..
Posted by: heidi | September 1, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
“And NO ONE HAS ASKED PALIN what her views are”
I’m sure reporters are eager to ask here all sort of things.
So why is the McCain campaign keeping her from the press?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 1, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
I bet you anything that Palin will withdraw before the Thursday Night role call stating “I feel I need to attend to my family matters and clear up things in Alaska.”
Posted by: larkin1974 | September 1, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
I guess this is all the media has of her being a member of AIP and the chairman says she doesn’t even know Palin’s position regarding AIP, How about asking her? And stop speculating and start making up stuff again. You don’t want a CBS mess-up of reporting again printing out false information.
Posted by: 2nfer | September 1, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
McCain really is as stupid as Bush!
Posted by: Lys | September 1, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
If this party got a governor elected with nearly 40 percent of the vote, I don’t see how it’s that “fringe”. It sounds like a state’s rights party in the tradition of the Constitution to me.
Posted by: DougBH | September 1, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
This is only going to get better and better for the Dems. She is unqualified to say the least. Think for a minute- if McCain passes (he’s 71 and the average life expectance is 75)do you really want a “hockey mom” with a BA in Journalizm and an ongoing abuse of power investigation to make miltary disisions. She’s a walking joke!
Posted by: steve9337 | September 1, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
There are additional rights to a state thats a territory than as a state.So before you undereducated liberals jump and scream any more. You should do real research on the subject.Since their vote don’t count in national elections they wouldn’t be a threat to the high and mighty liberals.
Posted by: Pershing2a | September 1, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Many of the recent revelations on Palin (troopergate, Bristol preggo, etc.) will certainly sway some Indies to Obama, but I don’t think these items have the necessary negative symbolism to sink her. Conservatives and even some Indies will interpret many of these stories to mean that Plain is strong and willing to live by her convictions. The AIP story is different. It could end Palin.
Why? Because the AIP story is very strong on negative political symbolism and the very type of negative political symbolism the GOP can’t afford to suffer. The GOP markets itself fundamentally as the Party of values, patriotism and security. The AIP strongly advocates that Alaska succeed from the US, in a violent fashion if needed, to form a separate country with minimal governmental regulation.
Palin’s membership in such group could easily be characterized (from a symbolic standpoint) as unpatriotic or even terrorism. If it gets to this point, this puts an end to her candidacy. Otherwise, she could single-handily destroy the GOP’s perception as the patriotic party that secures our borders.
Posted by: JCPOK | September 1, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
McCain is incompetent. His first “decision” as the GOP nominee and he doesn’t even bother to vet the VP. Are the RNC lawyers on their way to Alaska also heading up Palin’s defense against ethics charges? Are RNC contributions paying for her defense?
Posted by: JW | September 1, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
The Republican Party is crashing and burning. I must confess, it is a most satisfactory sight. Finally, the party of corruption, hypocrisy, and murder is going up in flames like the Hindenburg. When the fires subside, survivors, perhaps, can gather relics for a memorial; Bush’s cufflinks, McCain’s lucky penny, Hannity’s charred keyboard, O’Reilly‘s back brace, Dobson’s crucifix, Nixon’s busted up old piano. And from the ashes, like a phoenix, a new party will emerge: the original sturdy party of Lincoln, Reagan, and Teddy Roosevelt. The Rebublican Party will be reborn, shorn of riff-raff like the Evangelicals, Ted Nugent and Chuck Norris. See, I love the old Republican Party. I grew up with it. I miss its slate of solid American values and neighborly backyard barbecues, without all the noisy self-righteous fanfare and Bible thumping. Come back, old GOP and purge your ranks of Pat Robinson, Anne Coulter, George W. Bush and Fox TV. You can do it. We need you.
Posted by: brandon | September 1, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Seriously,
Who is this woman joining an organization like this? They don’t need us. Well screw them. Let them secede and make sure you take Princess with you!
Posted by: T | September 1, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
creationism + Tennessee Snopes trial = end of science
Creationism = excuse for oil companies to ignore global warming.
Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 1, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Gifts just keep coming:
Sarah Palin said she’s against earmarks, but in 4 years she got $26.9 million in earmarks from the Senate for Wasilla population 6,700.
The main stream media is throwing McCain under the bus, finally.
Posted by: doug | September 1, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
The selection of Sarah Palin is just utterly amazing
Much of the debate in this election has focussed on the dreadful foreign policy of the Bush administration and the decline in the USA’s standing in the eyes of much of the world.
We learnt this weekend that Sarah Palin got her first passport in July 2007!!!
Any American who has ever worked overseas knows the following:
1) Laws, cultures and traditions of virtually every other country in the world are almost always entirely different from our own.
2) It takes a long time to build relationships and fully understand the issues relating to a particular country – hence the need for embassies and consulates around the world – and hence the need for presidential candidates to have some (preferably a lot) of first hand knowledge of foreign relations.
3) Information that can be gleaned from the media in this country is always incomplete, biased or inaccurate.
Remember, Sarah Palin just got her first passport in July 2007!!!
Now Sarah may well be a completely brilliant person, but I don’t believe anyone, anyone at all with such a lack of either international background in her private life, or learnt in her professional career, could ever successfully get to grips with issues of such a colossal scale.
Maybe McCain’s team should start by showing her a globe of the world with the country names blocked out and ask her to name them? People if you weren’t praying before, you’d better start now!
Posted by: Chris | September 1, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Not one of you has the proof to any McCain information. All you do is sound bytes.the whole truth scares you. Leftists do not nor want truth. Truth is Obama is an empty fool who promises change with out telling any one what that means. I know what he means…His friends are the clue to the change he is talking about. It don’t include you people who are supporting him.
Posted by: Pershin2a | September 1, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
I’m baffled on why McCain made this decision. There are so many GOP women more qualified than Palin.l It is completely reckless and mind boggling.
Posted by: JJ | September 1, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Chris… The people in other countries are not from another world. It is not hard to understand them. the problem is like a business to business conference . Every one has basic needs, food, shelter, medicines,transportation, and political status. It is not hard to figure out.Liberals don’t have a lock on any of it.Even though most liberals want to control everything they are not up to the task. So stop making like you have a skill set that everyone else don’t have. Palin will run circles around you with out sweating.
Posted by: Pershing2a | September 2, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Monte:
Hillary Clinton did what she had to do. Partisan Politics is a Team Sport and if Hillary wanted to ever run for President again, she had to give the amazing speech that she gave.
I supported Hillary for POTUS and I respect her. However, I OWN MY VOTE!!!
The Democrat Party betrayed any semblance of representing democracy when they allowed blatant voter fraud in the Caucuses in the Primary.
For those reading these Posts who would like to know for themselves about how the Obama Campaign stole the Democrat Party Primary by committing criminal voter fraud in the Caucuses; there are many sites documenting the Voter Fraud.
If you “Google” these topics you should get to the sites:
(1). “We Will Not Be Silenced2008” and the;
(2). Meticulously documented site by Dr. Lynette Long on Caucus Fraud
The bigger issue is that our democracy is really in peril. Obama and his Campaign Leadership will do anything to win (means justifies the ends); even if it means subverting the very democratic principles of the Democrat Party.
In addition, to the outrageous Obama Primary Campaign Voter Fraud, we also got to see the Obama machine in action with the manipulation of the “role call vote” at the Dem Convention. The travesty of the so call “roll call vote” was an even more egregious insult to Hillary’s supporters.
Hillary Delegates were threatened at the Dem. Party Convention, if they didn’t go along with the anointing of “The Chosen One.” One threat was that their future in the Democrat Party organization would be OVER!!! In my opinion that is called blackmail and extortion.
Lots of Hillary’s former supporters will not be browbeaten into supporting Obama because we know the TRUTH!!! We were there!!
As you may have noticed, I am from NJ, (the Southern part of the State) and I have seen dirty machine politics played for many years. I know a dirty machine Politician when I see one and that is exactly what Obama is. For all of Obama’s lofty rhetoric; he is still a corrupt “old boy” politician.
Like I said, I OWN MY VOTE and I am gladly giving my vote to McCain/Palin in 08.
McCain and Palin have integrity which is something I know that you can not fathom since your Candidate -
NObama HAS NO INTEGRITY. Obama is just lofty words with NO substance!!
McCain/Palinin08
Hillaryin2012
Women Defending Democracy
Country Over Party
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 2, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Mark….your worried about nothing. your concern should be with Obama and the level of god hood that his followers seem to have placed on him. who is the power hungry one for power? You are! Your afraid of Palin!
Posted by: Pershing2a | September 2, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
On the day when all of America is reminded of the terrible price the country pays for incompetence (Bush handling Katrina), McCain demonstrates his incompetence by failing to even minimally vet his VP pick. The only thing more telling is the way McCain, like Bush, is doubling down after having demonstrated his incompetence by pledging to stick with the mistake he made in not vetting. VP Mission Accomplished?
Posted by: JW | September 2, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
An affiliation with state sovereignty advocates may prove to be less problematic than the Obama campaign would hope.
Things such as Michael Moore’s exuberance over the threat of Hurricane Gustav provide just cause to residents of some states to think along the same lines as the AIP. Where exactly do the states that were threatened by Gustav fit in in an Obama Nation?
Posted by: Southern Agrarian | September 2, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
McCain = Votes and Republican Party First (He gave up on Country First with his VP announcement – clearly pandering).
Republicans set themselves so high morally above everyone else…sadly they are just human and don’t realize it.
I am a long time, strong Hillary Clinton supporter and will NOT be fooled by McCain. He and Palin insult Clinton supporters by implying that we will vote for them just because he selected a woman.
Hillary Clinton is and has EARNED her right to be acknowledged as a ‘great’ woman of substance – the distance between Palin and Hillary is light years and unacceptable. There are Republican women more qualified that I would have considered voting for, but Palin is not the one.
Posted by: Independent | September 2, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
What was McCain thinking?
Posted by: Bubba Bobson | September 2, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
The press just said Surprise John mcCain!
Ryan, shaking head.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am
This woman is a DISASTER! McCain pick someone else! The entire Republican field is more qualified than this disaster.
Posted by: TT | September 2, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
The democratic party is like the levees in New Orleans . The funds were robbed to pay for special projects instead of building the Levees stronger. they were robbed by the Democratic governor and mayor of Orleans.And they blamed Bush and now McCain for all the blunders of the stupid leftists.They live by the motto”never take the blame if you have a conservative at hand” .
Posted by: Pershing2a | September 2, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am
The real conservative concern: Can she bake a better cookie than Barbara and Hillary?
Posted by: Sandy | September 2, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Obvious what McCain think after this decision.
Putting. Country. Last.
Posted by: JJ | September 2, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Does she love this country. She is not a patriot.
Oh God. Why did McCain choose such a VP..I am really disturbed.
I guess I have to believe Obama’s judgment because I trust Biden’s experience.
Posted by: Concerned Republican | September 2, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
You’re kidding me. She belongs to an anti-American separatist group and the knuckle-draggers are DEFENDING it?
Imagine if Barack Obama had belonged to a group that wanted to secede from the US and had a founder who said “I’m not an American. I want nothing to do with America.” You guys would CRUCIFY him.
Well, if Sarah Palin doesn’t want to be an American, she’s free to leave any time. Defending her shows the true colors of conservatives. They hate America.
Posted by: K. Savage | September 2, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
By Thursday the residents of Wasilla, of all political stripes, will be going on record about the Palins.
It will make the swifties look like a love fest, baby you aint seen nothing yet.
Posted by: Blood in the water | September 2, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
As I posted before. The group was about dropping state hood and becoming a territory again. They were not about leaving the Union. Only stupid uneducated leftists would keep saying things untrue.
Posted by: Pershing2a | September 2, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Obama is the manchurian candidate.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Wouldn’t that be considered an act of treason?
Posted by: getfacts | September 2, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
McCain/Bush
Palin/Brownee
If you have to ask what a Vice President does.
Then you are not qualified.
Would you hire a plummer that asked you what do a plummer do?
Posted by: Underdog | September 2, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Support a ticket w/ a VP that wanted to secede?
This nomination was demeaning to women.
McCain’s unvetted VP decision decided my vote for Obama. He’s makes poor decisions.
Posted by: Hillary Supporter | September 2, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
As you may have noticed, I am from NJ, (the Southern part of the State) and I have seen dirty machine politics played for many years. I know a dirty machine Politician when I see one and that is exactly what Obama is. For all of Obama’s lofty rhetoric; he is still a corrupt “old boy” politician.
Like I said, I OWN MY VOTE and I am gladly giving my vote to McCain/Palin in 08.
McCain and Palin have integrity which is something I know that you can not fathom since your Candidate -
NObama HAS NO INTEGRITY. Obama is just lofty words with NO substance!!
McCain/Palinin08
Hillaryin2012
Women Defending Democracy
Country Over Party
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 2, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Pershing21, AIP wants a referendum vote to either:
1) Remain a Territory
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation
3) Accept Commonwealth status
4) Become a State
Posted by: Boston | September 2, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
This is John McCain’s Harriet Meirs pick. Please, let’s nominate Romney this week and end this charade of a presidential campaign. McCain is not who I want leading our party or the country. He put Palin in this awful position, and now she and her daughter are paying the price.
Posted by: Florida Republican | September 2, 2008, 12:38 am 12:38 am
McCain’s Soulmate indeed!
Posted by: Patricia Lewis | September 2, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Brandon, I can’t wait until October.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Palin’s drama is becoming a fox news sitcom. I wonder if she will last by the end of the week?
Posted by: PatriotGames | September 2, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
John McCain has developed a sudden humanitarian streak when it comes to the victims of hurricanes. For anyone writing blogs about this, I have gone back to look at where McCain was at in 2005, three years ago almost to the day, as Katrina made landfall.
As Katrina was ravaging the Gulf coast, McCain was on the tarmac of an Arizona airport, celebrating his birthday with George Bush, who had made a stop there in Airforce One to cut John McCain’s birthday cake for him. The two shared a photo op before Bush got back on Airforce one to attend his vacation in Texas. McCain got on his own corporate provided jet to attend a fundraiser for himself and his party, (not Katrina victims), in California later that day.
Quite a difference three years make, huh?
Posted by: lancelot | September 2, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
“McCain and Palin have integrity”
McCain just hired a man who smeared his adopted 2 year old daughter as illegitmate and implied that McCain had cheated on his wife Cindy.
That’s John McCain intergity.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Maybe… just maybe… the RNC Convention is going to have a big surprise and NOT nominate this wack job.
Posted by: Reganesk | September 2, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Holy Cow, McCain needed to spend a little time vetting his VP candidate. What was he thinking?
Posted by: twb0392 | September 2, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Hey a quick word on the AIP in Alaska…the Alaska Independence Party. Alot of people in Alaska do NOT appreciate how the Federal Government has locked up state lands. In fact, the main issue is that states should manage their own lands and resources. Alaska, though a State, is treated by many politicians and lower 48 activist who do not live in the state as a National Park, and as a Federal Reserve for minerals, oil, gas, ect.. Alot of land in the 1990′s was locked up by Bill Clinton and the lower 48 democrats to APPEASE the fringe extreme environmental activist that have no clue what Alaska is really like. So……AIP…..had and has a VALID point….states should have a right to manage their own resources and lands, because the people who live in the state have a better grasp of what is going on in the state. McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party in the 1990s. So in a time of war and national crisis, John McCain has picked a secessionist. That’s like Abe Lincoln picking Jefferson Davis as his vice president!
The once-vaunted party of Lincoln has now become home to racists (David Duke) and secessionists (Sarah Palin). Maybe we should start calling John McCain “Johnny Reb.”
There is no right to secede from the Union — that was decided in 1865 by Gen. US Grant, another Republican. Of course, that was before Sarah Palin. Grant and Lincon must be spinning in their graves tonight.
Posted by: JDC | September 2, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Trust McCain? His dad & grand-dad Navy Admirals’ influence got him into Annapolis, not smarts. McCain graduated 894 out of 899, almost last. Later, said he didn’t read flight manual, crashed 3 planes. At 42 traded in his 1st wife & family for 24 yr old millionaire Cindy, his beer distributor boss’s daughter, whom he romanced 9 months, while still living at home with 1st family, to use her money & family influence to fund campaign for Congress.
McCain used US Senator influence to get his trophy-wife Cindy’s felony charges reduced to pleading “no-contest” when she became a drug addict, stole drugs from her medical charity, used forged prescriptions, had to pay a fine, join Narcotics Anonymous, dissolve charity, do community soup-kitchen work & presto …h-e-e-r’s Cindy, our new First Lady.
Posted by: Debra | September 2, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
I don’t understand how people are saying they are going to vote for McCain/Palin in 2008 so that they can vote for HRC in 2012.
You have to assume:
1) Hillary will run again in 2012 (and won’t lose again to Obama)
2) McCain won’t get re-elected.
Really…what kind of sense does that make? Why vote for someone with a completely opposite worldview?
Palin and Hillary are both white women. They have nothing else in common.
Posted by: itsjustme | September 2, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Republican doctrine: Black is white and up is down.
Country Last, indeed it is with them.
Posted by: tim | September 2, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
His VP choice seems to support what some say about John McCain…that he makes rash decisions and gambles. I admire those characteristics in some ways…for football coaches going long or betting on a long-shot at the race track. But VP? Not so sure…
Posted by: Mark Ashton | September 2, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
if the race was between Omama and Palin .Palin would win on her own. Obama is a con man with empty promises.
Posted by: Pershing2a | September 2, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Tina……..what are Hillery supporters? You don’t like others who think their own mind and vote how they think? Sounds like soviet Russia thinking all over again.
Posted by: Pershing2a | September 2, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
I guess this is all the media has of her being a member of AIP. Well, the chairman says she doesn’t even know Palin’s position regarding AIP, How about asking her? And stop speculating and start making up stuff again. You don’t want a CBS mess-up of reporting again printing out false information. This is just a smoke screen from the liberals and Democrats to hide their big mistake of bringing the children of Palin into the mix of slamming and calling her names in liberal Blogs and showing what the word CHANGE means that Obama keeps on ranting.
Posted by: 2nfer | September 2, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Maybe Alaska doesn’t want to be part of the 57 States.
Posted by: Southern Agrarian | September 2, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Maybe Alaska doesn’t want to be part of the 57 States”
Well Obama was referring to the number of Democratic primaries which include territories.
McCain still thinks Czechslovakia exists even though it has not since 1993. And he has said so more than once even after being corrected.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
John McCain
Worst. Decision. Ever.
Posted by: TUP | September 2, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
You know, Republicans can spin from now until eternity, the matter is very clear. John McCain made a huge error and did not vet this lady, if he did he would not have chosen her. THAT is the story and not an attack. It is a simple truth we must all face. He was reckless and is now paying the price for his incompetence on this matter.
Posted by: nerakami | September 2, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
Recall the pledge of allegiance? The part that goes “one nation under God, indivisible”? While Gov. Palin supports the under God part, the indivisible part apparently not so much. Could someone check that the AIP does not recite the pledge at their conventions? That should please our conservative brothers and sisters.
Posted by: rhodium | September 2, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Gallup daily tracking has Obama up 6 points.
Rasmussen has Obama up 3 points.
CBS has Obama up 8 points.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
I’m just piling on here. I can’t stand McLame. I am so happy to see that ABC has finally broken this story, and it only took less than 24 hours AFTER DAILYKOS broke it.
Thanks guys! (Seriously — NOT joking or being sarcastic here!!!) THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sammy | September 2, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
McCain has always competed with Bush. Today, as Gustav reminded America how incompetent Bush is, McCain wanted to show he is even MORE incompetent than Bush. I can pick a VP with NO vetting! I can pick someone who tried to get their state out of the union! I can pick someone who headed up Ted Stevens PAC! I can pick someone who was FOR the bridge to nowhere before she was against the bridge to nowhere. I can pick someone who is currently under an ethics investigation for abuse of power! I’m even more incompetent than Bush. I’m doing a heckuva job! Brownie … where’s Brownie … he’s overseeing my VP vetting!
Posted by: Jackie | September 2, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Come on this is just getting stupid now. Your telling me she’s a beef jerky eating gun toting separatist trying to rekindle the civil war. Where did McBush find this nut job.
Posted by: yellowdogminnesotan | September 2, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
RyanC, But he didn’t say primaries he said states.
Posted by: buckaroobonsai | September 2, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
n June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document’s authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is “fake.”
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Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
McCain/Palin for “Hockey Grandparents”
Obama/Biden for President!
Posted by: lumpy | September 2, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
I’m stunned, speechless and very, very worried.
Is McCain still this reckless flyboy?
Is his judgement questionable?
As the nominee of his party the first bigh decision he makes is the selection of his VP. The one who sits one heart beat way from the presidency (if he is elected).
Now I ask you a simple question.
Would you make someone you have met only once the quardian of your children?
Now I admit you may have read and heard glowing reports about them. But these are your children that you love.
As more things are coming out about this VP pick every day regarding ethics etc. One has to ask “Has this lady really been vetted”. Or was it just a pick to try and capture the Hillary Pants Suit Army. I have many USA friends both male and female and have traveled many times to your lovely country. I have found the average person there far too astute to be fooled by this pandering.
McCain is placing the lives of his family in the possible hands of this lady (maybe that’s fair enough). But is it appropriate to ask the citizens of USA to place their lives, those of their children and those of the free world in jeopardy? I think not.
Senator McCain appears to be a really nice old guy. He means well. I don’t doubt for one moment his love of country. But let us all face the facts. Even if he appears sprightly he is 72 years old and has also had bouts of cancer. Even on the other side of the world, we remember the latter part of the Reagan Administration and how it was apparent he had lost it BIG TIME.
Posted by: Libby | September 2, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
So let me get this straight. Palin hates the lower 48 states and wants Alaska to secede? Are we going to find out she clubs baby seals? I can’t believe what’s happening.
Posted by: Bob | September 2, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
“But he didn’t say primaries he said states.”
But it was obvious he meant primaries.
Why did John mcCain refer to the need to protect Czechslovakia…not once (which I think we could say was a mistake)but twice?
Why did John McCain say Palin was heavily vetted but only dispatched the vetting team on Thurs? Why do Alaskan political leader (Republicans mostly) say no one asked them about Palin (and that includes people doing the investigation of Pailn in the legislature)
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:02 am 1:02 am
A quick comment on McCains economic plan pertaining to taxes. McCain wants to double our personal deductions to $7,000 a person, and give us a $5,000 dollar tax credit per family to pay for private health insurance. So…..a family of 4 (four) would not pay any tax on the first $36,500 dollars considering a married standard deduction of $8,500 dollars plus (4 times $7,000) $28,000 dollars. Next the family would be given a $5,000 dollar tax credit for health insurance. The tax on $30,000 additional dollars income over the first $36,500 dollars would pay roughly $5,000 dollars in tax. However, if I buy health insurance my $5,000 dollar tax credit wipes the additional tax away. So….in conclusion…a married family of 4 (four), under the McCain / Palin plan, making $66,500 dollars a year could have family health insurance, and pay no federal tax. Hmmmmmmm………What’s Obama’s plan??? McCain / Palin are proven reformers that care about the middle class. As an independent voter…I support….McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
The NOTION(Obama’s favorite word) that because I disagree with Obama and his Liberal friends in a lot of issues like Abortion(license to kill babies), more government, and socialist programs that breeds contempt and disaster etc.. I am called a racist?!, as a colored person I take offense. But as an immigrant I love the USA because we could agree to disagree and yet nobody comes knocking my door down and putting a gun in my head. If you’re candidate OBAMA can not answer simple questions about his associations of questionable character and stays with that group for years…. And does not have the conviction to make a executive decision to condemn or at least distant himself from USA haters he doesn’t deserve the DNC nomination, then it takes his political convenient career to decide for him. Shame, for using the RACE card again.
Posted by: 2nfer | September 2, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Horrendous decision McCain ! This low political stunt has backfired in your face.She was going to be the final step for the Bush regime,for the rabid right wing Taliban.You are despicable liar,and a fool!
Posted by: Sharon W | September 2, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Palin is the most unqualified candidate in the history of American politics.
She has no foreign policy experience. In fact she just received her first passport last year. She has no advanced education. Her degree is a BA in journalism from Idaho. She has no experience with anything else. This is a joke right? John McCain, please stop messing with us. The real VP is Romney? Rice? Joe? Come on…seriously.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
The media is going hard after Palin, when they somehow forgot about Obama’s tight association Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko.
Obama’s campaign has long minimized his relationship with Ayers and explicitly claimed that the two men first me at the meet-and-greet (at the home of Ayers and Dohrn) in November 2005.
There’s been evidence available for quite some time that this was untrue – since Obama was the Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, an initiative that was Ayers’ brainchild. Obama was selected as Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge at the beginning of 1995, and it seems unlikely to me that Ayers would have done so without a pre-existing relationship (especially because in 1995, Obama was not a ‘big wheel’ relative to most other members of the board). And there are independent reasons to think that Ayers/Dohrn and Obama probably had a pre-existing relationship.
Posted by: Comment | September 2, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am
LOL
Guess what Lefties…
STILL VOTING FOR HER.
If Obama’s past associations don’t bother you, this matters not a nattering to me.
Posted by: RogerCfromSD | September 2, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
As a Canadian, I’ll just say that it must be bizarre for you folks to be dealing with the separatist thing. We know a bit about it up here. Maybe she and the leader of our separatist Bloc Quebecois should get a room, no?
Posted by: Martin | September 2, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
Neen:
I have children and grandchildren!!
That is why I am voting for McCain/Palin.
Please do not threaten me with the “abortion will be outlawed crap.”
First of all, we can thank Senator Joe Biden for the threat to “Choice.” Biden attacked woman criticizing Clarence Thomas at the Hearings for Thomas’s confirmation for the Supreme Court. Instead of standing up for women, Biden caved in.
Check your history before you start throwing around the “Right To Choose” issue. I saw the Hearings and saw what Biden and the DEMS in Congress did for women.
Second, there is no chance that we will loose the “Right To Choose” in the US and the DEM Party has used that fear to keep women in line supporting a Party that does not support them for years!!
It won’t work anymore, not after what the DEM Party and the DNC did to Hillary Clinton. Forget It!!! The old buttons don’t work anymore.
I am voting along with millions of other former Hillary supporters for McCain/Palin. I am not going to vote for CHANGE THAT I CAN NOT BELIEVE IN – that is NoBama/Biden!!!
Women Defending Democracy
Hillaryin2010
McCain/Palinin08
Posted by: carly in NJ | September 2, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
AIP….Alaska Independence Party…is about a State’s rights to manage their own lands, and resources. Federal mismanagement of Alaska has caused alot of problems. I believe what AIP is really after is for Alaskans and Alaska to be treated fairly….and not as the National Park for the lower 48, or the National Oil reserve….ect..
Posted by: Jon | September 2, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
I’m stunned, speechless and very, very worried.
Is McCain still this reckless flyboy?
Is his judgement questionable? – Libby
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Libby, like you, I am shocked, stunned, speechless and pissing in my pants for sheer joy. I think Johnny is suffering from early onset dementia.
Posted by: brandon | September 2, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Hey, carly in NJ- you’re clearly under the influence of some powerful drugs or maybe you’re just a robot, set to repeat the same things over and over again. Or maybe you’re delusional. Why don’t you vote with your mind and not with your vagina? You really expect me to believe you were a Hillary supporter, and now all of a sudden you’re going to vote for McShame & Palin, who stand for nothing that Hillary does? Right. I bet she’d be proud of you, hmph. Disgrace.
Posted by: DemsRuleRepubsDrool | September 2, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
“The group was about dropping state hood and becoming a territory again. They were not about leaving the Union. Only stupid uneducated leftists would keep saying things untrue.”
From their website today
Q: What is the Alaskan Independence Party?
A: An Alaskan political party whose members advocate … all the way to complete independence and nationhood status for Alaska.
Sounds like sucession to me.
Posted by: blakeC | September 2, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
THE HUNT FOR PALINGATE CONTINUES
THE MEDIA HAD CONCLUDED OBAMA WAS ALREADY PRESIDENT–
BUT ” DA**M, WHO IS SARAH PALIN, SOMEONE IS STEALING MY SHOW!!”
I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH HYSTERIA TO DISCREDIT SOMEONE..OBAMA IS IN TROUBLE
NO BOUNCE FROM TEMPLE OF DOOM SPEECH
NO BOUNCE FROM 50 MILLION DOLLAR, ” IAM THE ONE,” OVERSEAS TRIP
I CALL IT THE HUNT FOR “PALINGATE”
BAH HAMBURG!!!
JREMIAH WRIGHT STILL EMAILS OBAMA DAILY
SO, HERE, IF YOU GUYS DONT GIVE UP, WE’LL GO BACK TO REZKO, AYERS, JEREMIAH WRIGHT, BITTERGATE, ETC
REPUBLICANS MADE THEIR BABE VEEP. DNC TRASHED CLINTON AND STOLE FROM HER.
REPUBS GOT THE BABE!!
BYE OBAMA…
REPUBS ARE THE REFORMERS THAT WE CAN BELIEVE IN…
TJ, VOTING
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
Posted by: TJ | September 2, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
NEVER VOTED AND DON’T PLAN TO -BUT IF I WERE TO PICK A PRES I WOULD HAVE TO VOTE OBAMA /BIDEN TICKET . I LIKE JOHN MCCAIN BUT HIS JUDGMENT SUCKS. AND HE HAS NEVER DISTANCED HIMSELF FROM THE “W” AND I HATE MR BUSH
Posted by: BOB | September 2, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
AIP vs Ayers.
Palin wins AGAIN!
You lefties are really really scared aren’t you.
Can’t wait to watch the Palin – Joe Bourbon debate.
Posted by: RFC | September 2, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
McCain wants to double our personal deductions to $7,000 a person, and give us a $5,000 dollar tax credit per family to pay for private health insurance”
Except that’s not McCain’s plan.
His plan calls for $2500 per individual and $5000 for families. Says so right of his website. The choice is $2500 or $5000 not both.
So your figures were BS.
The average family of 4 will get only $100 in income tax relief from McCain vs $2000 from Obama.
And add to that, Obama will create a Small Business Health Tax Credit to provide small businesses with a refundable tax credit of up to 50 percent on premiums paid by small businesses on behalf of their employees.
This would be a huge help to the small business I work for. Insurance premiums cost us thousands a month with only 6 employees on the plan.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
I truly couldn’t care less about most of Sarah Palin’s newly discovered skeletons, especially the personal ones. I never much liked her in the first place, and the past 24 have just helped to cement my opinion.
But what does it say about the thought process and judgement of a potential president when he thinks this woman is qualified to take over his job, should the need arise? What does it say about him that he clearly did not vet his VP pick? Playing politics for politics’ sake is one thing (and no matter what McCain says to the contrary, he has put political agenda before national interest at some point), but to do it impulsively on the national level is quite another. And I find it quite insulting that one of his major motivations for giving Gov. Palin the nod in the first place appears to be to try and sway former Clinton supporters to vote for the party that’s showcasing another candidate with two X chromosomes. A questionable dismissal of a state employee in her recent past, suggestive ties to a seccesionist group in her state, no foreign policy experience whatsoever, even limited international travel…not exactly what most people would call prime VP material.
And before the backlash about Obama’s lack of foreign policy and national-level experience erupts, let me remind everyone that he is, in fact, a senator. Even if he hasn’t been for very long, it is the job of the federal government to take into account international goings-on. I would wager that he knows quite a bit more about US relations around the globe than Gov. Palin does, simply because of his Washington exposure. Additionally, he picked a VP candidate that few can deny has had ample amounts of foreign policy experience. I’d rather have a well-advised president who has no real executive experience than an ill-advised (and/or ill-chosen) one who’s had little more than that, should events warrant.
I will be very surprised if the party at large allows their presumptive nominee to keep his current running mate. She’s not a just a ‘maverick’- she’s an unknown (though not quite so much anymore), and in politics, that’s even worse.
Posted by: josie | September 2, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
“AIP….Alaska Independence Party…is about a State’s rights to manage their own lands, and resources. Federal mismanagement of Alaska has caused alot of problems. I believe what AIP is really after is for Alaskans and Alaska to be treated fairly….and not as the National Park for the lower 48, or the National Oil reserve….ect..”
Then why did the founder say this
“and if you think I am ever going to forget that, the fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American Government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag; I’ll be buried in Dawson and when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones back to Alaska, back to my country. ”
Doesn’t really sound like states rights to me. Sounds like crackpot secessionists to me.
Posted by: blakeC | September 2, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am
GREAT PICK, NO ONE COMES CLOSE
Such a great pick that McCain dispatches a team of “communications operatives” and “lawyers” to Wasilla.
Yeah so well vetted they have to descend on that little town to do damage control, and do the research they should have done in the first place.
Posted by: Spiro Agnew | September 2, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
You can’t make this stuff up! How does it look when a vice-presidential candidate who may likely become the POTUS doesn’t really believe in being part of union. Will she be president of the United States or Alaska? I have nothing against her. I think she is actually a fine lady, but I think McCain’s desire to pander to Hillary voters and evangelicals and rush the vetting process has resulted in these embarassing revelations. What more do we not know about Palin?
Posted by: NMar | September 2, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am
To Ryan, C…….ummmm…..your wrong. McCain wants to double the personal deduction from $3,500 to $7,000 dollars a person. It is a solid, fair, and simple plan, and benefits all working class people accross the board. You need to get reading more Ryan C before you vote. McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Thank you Lord. As a life long liberal Democrat I can say with joy Yahoooooo! With a pistol packing nut job like Palin (who loves moose stew-mom’s favorite meal) for VP, and a burned out disorientated reactionary like McCain master minding the Republican ship of fools, Barak Obama need only pray that the brain trust who keeps fine tuning McCain’s campaign don’t quiet in disgust. Pal in LA
Posted by: Pal in LA | September 2, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Josie, You seem to know alot about Sen. Obama. Can you tell me what Bills, Resolutions, or Admendments he has sponsored and passed (not co-sponsored) as a U.S.Senator?
Posted by: buckaroobonsai | September 2, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
Bob-
You’re right. But it’s gotta start somewhere, doesn’t it? It’s kind of depressing to read through pages of user comments that mostly read like kids bickering back and forth about whose favorite superhero is better.
Posted by: josie | September 2, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
I’m not quite sure how Palin’s daughter being pregnant has anything to do with McCain’s choice to pick her as VP. And this article has even less to do with it. While I didn’t read all the comments on this page, most of them are ignorant, derogatory and factless. For those who left comments, when arguing your point, its best to at least come across as being somewhat intelligent. McCain’s pick is a strong pick for several reasons but I’ve found that arguing with democrats is like bouncing a ball off a wall: it keeps you busy for a short while but its really a waste of time.
Posted by: Thomas | September 2, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Sarah has only been on the national platform for 5 days and all this has come to light. OMG
Posted by: Catherine | September 2, 2008, 1:26 am 1:26 am
Reverend Jeremy Wright
Toney Rezko
William Ayers
Rashid Khalidi
Emil Jones
Father Michael Pfleger
Emil Jones
Annenburg Challenge
Posted by: anotherview | September 2, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
I wanted the chance to vote for McCain in 2000, and I was glad to see him finally get the nomination in ’08. But this man is not the McCain I’ve always admired. This man is… controlled. Like others in the party, he seems to have become nothing more than a puppet of those in true power… And their ability to twist — or rather, deny — truth has become nothing short of terrifying.
Dear God, please do not let this country keep sliding toward such hypocrisy and damned failure.
Obama is a politician, true — but at least we know he’s not under the thumb of whatever powers are in control today. Something has to give.
Posted by: John McCain (no relation) | September 2, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am
The Alaskan Independence Party’s goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:
1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.
Can any of you idiots read or think for yourselves? Yeah, I’m speaking to you JAKE!!! ONE CHOICE MORON!!!
Posted by: Patrick | September 2, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
PUMA NOW OFFICIALLY ENDORSES OBAMA!
LIKE H E L L THEY DO!!!!
THAT WAS JUST ANOTHER B O BOOBOO!
Posted by: hmmmmm | September 2, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
The audacity of ABC purporting to be a fair and balanced news organization when the reality is that ABC is so far left the letters should stand for Always Been Communist. Don’t feel bad CNN is on the lefty list too but really does America get that 90%+ of the news read or seen on web/TV is biased? If the Alaskan Independence Party is such a “Fringe Party” how did Walter Hickel get elected as Governor? I think of the Green Party as more fringe and since they are “fringe” have as of yet not had anyone of importance elected anywhere in US. My take is that the views of ABC is “fringe” and the only way to get their lefty message across is to take over the media outlets and spew as much biased crap as they can. Hopefully uneducated people will read this biased stuff and think it’s OK to have a Presidential nominee who spent 20+ years with a man who hates America, Whitey, and the Jews.
It’s OK America-it’s just like having a crazy Uncle or a looney TV News Station that spouts off vitriolic hate under the guise of Ministering or News. Wake Up America!
Posted by: Michael | September 2, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am
Aw, c’mon Jake, she’s just a maverick! Just like John. Have you heard the straight talk express try and answer any questions on what Palin’s specific national security is? There’s a you tube video of a brief interview today with CNN’s Campbell Brown asking McCain’s Tucker Bounds that question. Unbelievable.
Posted by: bademus | September 2, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
Bbbwwwaaaaahhhhh !!!
poor lib’s….can’t figure out how to fight a poor lil old girl from the sticks in Alaska…….
Goodness…….it’s the beginning of the end for the Obama nation……he will never be elected now….GOOD !!
Bbbwwwwaaaaahhhhh !!!!!!
16 more years of Republican Presidents……
Yes……… !!!!!
Posted by: J Robertson | September 2, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
The Democratic Party no longer represents the working class. They are a party of lawyers, and I think it is time for REFORM. I believe a working class mother would better understand how to balance a budget, manage time, and lead, then the members of the current Congress. I am a independent male voter, and I support McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
“I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH HYSTERIA TO DISCREDIT SOMEONE”
Whoever said this crap couldn’t possibly have been watching any of this race so far. The media has been trying to discredit Obama since Iowa. When they couldn’t find anything people started BEGGING the media to find something.
All they were able to come up with is the Ayers and Rezcko crap that nobody follows and a mostly fabricated story on the man’s preacher that in one instance was quoting a government official on FOX news. The rest of the stuff was…well you’d have to go through something to understand it. However none of them compare at all to a VP pick that possibly wants her state to pull out of the union.
I guess if her abuse of power in trooper gate turns out to be true then conservatives will flock to her. They seem to love the Bush/Cheney lies and rampant abuse of power. Alberto Gonzales anyone?
Posted by: Phil | September 2, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
buckaroobonsai-
Not off the top of my head, because the most easily accessable ones are, unfortunately, the glorified summaries on his website. In fact, I’ll admit that I have no idea how many acts of legislation he single-handedly sponsored, if there have been any. But don’t belittle co-sponsored bills. How many first-term senators do you know of who’ve done that on a regular basis? As for a better look at legislation that he’s been involved in, I would direct you (and everyone else) to check the Library of Congress’s website. They keep all legisative and congressional activity online.
Don’t imply that because Sen. McCain has been in congress for far longer than Obama has, he is automatically a better choice for the presidency. If that’s all it were about, the senior member of congress should be a shoe-in no matter who they are. I am not a brainwashed Obama supporter who loves the “Change we can believe in” rhetoric. I simply agree with more of his proclaimed policy stances, and those of the Democratic Party in general, than I do with McCain’s. I’m a liberal, not a fanatical Obama-lover.
Posted by: josie | September 2, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
Jamie Lynn Spears and her mother were attacked by social conservatives for her underage pregnancy. She decided to keep her baby also……….where was the support for the Spears family?
Same situation, yet one family is considered immoral and sinful, the other is given sympathy and understanding since “life happens”.
Posted by: Not a Hypocrite | September 2, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
As mayor, left her hometown in debt after an eminent-domain fiasco to build a sports center…has requested $200 million in earmarks for 2009…was for the Bridge to Nowhere when campaigning in Ketchikan but changed her mind when it became politically expedient…only met with McCain once before he offered her the job…no foreign policy experience whatsoever.
I don’t need to hear about pregnant daughters or former ties with secessionists. I’ve heard enough. McCain made his first “executive decision”, and it was a colossal failure. I cannot justify voting for someone who was so reckless in picking someone to be one 72-year-old heartbeat away from the highest office in the land. Of all the Republicans he met in 26 years of being a Senator, and campaigning around the country for 18 months, this is the one he picked? I cannot vote for that kind of judgement.
Palin may wind up being fine – it’s her new boss that is leaving a lot to be desired. I used to think whoever replaced Bush, we’d be better off. Now I’m not so sure.
Posted by: Craig | September 2, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
Today in my anger and ignorance I was ready to pounce on any bad news for the Republicans. I took a step back to think after my wife and Obama speaking out today reminded me of the golden rule…DO TO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM TO DO TO YOU. When Obama was going through his issues with the press I was hurt and angry that the media was driving him into the ground. Fairly or unfairly nobody on either side of the politics likes the “media witch hunt”. Does this excuse McCain in his responsibility in this? No but I don’t believe Gov. Palin is a bad person. These events are unfortunate and are further evidence why WE NEED TO STICK TO THE ISSUES! To turn the other cheek is a hard thing to do but Obama supporters and McCain supporters can agree that America deserves an election decided on the issues not personal family or associate issues. Let all treat each other with respect and honor. May God bless America! Obama 08!
Posted by: Erik | September 2, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
This is a quote from the original founder of the Alaskan Independence Party (Joe Vogler). It’s on their website!! Unbelievable!!! You can check it out yourself. I wonder if Ms Palin believes this?
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
Joe Vogler
Posted by: NMar | September 2, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
I have had two abortions myself and now wish abortion had never been an option, it felt very wrong while I was having it done and I still regret it today. I used it as a form of birth control and I am ashamed of myself.
As for Palin’s association with this group, I think Obama’s association with the Weather Underground or whatever the hell their name was, is far more relevant. I live in the South and we still think about seceding every day.
And also I can’t forget Rezko or the Reverend Wright.
Posted by: Kelley | September 2, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am
“your wrong. McCain wants to double the personal deduction from $3,500 to $7,000 dollars a person. It is a solid, fair, and simple plan, and benefits all working class people accross the board.”
From John McCain’s website
John McCain Will Reform The Tax Code To Offer More Choices Beyond Employer-Based Health Insurance Coverage. While still having the option of employer-based coverage, every family will receive a direct refundable tax credit – effectively cash – of $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families to offset the cost of insurance. Families will be able to choose the insurance provider that suits them best and the money would be sent directly to the insurance provider. Those obtaining innovative insurance that costs less than the credit can deposit the remainder in expanded Health Savings Accounts.
The lies even in the face of such easily verifiable sources continues to amuse me.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
“your wrong. McCain wants to double the personal deduction from $3,500 to $7,000 dollars a person. It is a solid, fair, and simple plan, and benefits all working class people accross the board.”
From John McCain’s website
John McCain Will Reform The Tax Code To Offer More Choices Beyond Employer-Based Health Insurance Coverage. While still having the option of employer-based coverage, every family will receive a direct refundable tax credit – effectively cash – of $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families to offset the cost of insurance. Families will be able to choose the insurance provider that suits them best and the money would be sent directly to the insurance provider. Those obtaining innovative insurance that costs less than the credit can deposit the remainder in expanded Health Savings Accounts.
The lies even in the face of such easily verifiable sources continues to amuse me.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Jake: I think you need to do a “just askin’” post again:
Just askin’: What would happen if it were revealed that Obama were once a member of party that wanted to break away from the USA? Or even if he had picked a running mate who had?
The media storm would dwarf Katrina.
So here we have a legitimate reason to question Palin’s patriotism — as opposed to the completely fake, non-stop questioning of everyone’s patriotism that the GOP trades in.
If she were President (shudder), would she push for Alaskan independence from the USA? As crazy as that question sounds, it is (amazingly) a legitimate question for Palin.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
This is a quote from the original founder of the Alaskan Independence Party (Joe Vogler). It’s on their website!! Unbelievable!!! You can check it out yourself. I wonder if Ms Palin believes this?
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
Joe Vogler
Posted by: NMar | September 2, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
And most of you all have been putting down Alaska so much, why would you care if they wanted to secede?
Oh wait, that’s Honest Abe Syndrome….the people would prefer to be left on their own but God forbid we let them….that’s because they have something we can use.
Posted by: Kelley | September 2, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
It was revealed tonight to the New York Times, by McCain staff, that there was never an FBI background check on Sarah Palin. As demonstrated in this article, no one belongs anywhere near the top of our government without an FBI background check! No branch of the federal government would hire a secretary without one.
McCain may gamble with his political future, and if the Republican party lets him then he may gamble with their future, but I will not stand for him gambling with America’s future.
The simple fact that the FBI never conducted a background check on Palin is an even larger problem than Palin belonging to an anti-American political party. It is a larger problem than that McCain met her only once before offering her the job. It is larger than the ethics investigations she is the subject of, back in Alaska.
The lack of an FBI background check might not be as juicy, but it is a more serious concern than any of the other scandals the McCain campaign has tried to hide in this Gustav-dominated news cycle, whether unmarried, teenage pregnancies or DWIs. Political calculations and beauty pageants are not qualifying tests for the Vice Presidency of the United States. The selection of Palin is not only insulting, but as conducted, it is dangerous.
Posted by: Brian Glanz | September 2, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
This is a quote from the original founder of the Alaskan Independence Party (Joe Vogler). It’s on their website!! Unbelievable!!! You can check it out yourself. I wonder if Ms Palin believes this?
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
Joe Vogler
Posted by: NMar | September 2, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OH MAN! Didn’t they do ANY research about her before they picked her? Like did they even click her Wikipedia page? HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Anthony | September 2, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Palin has been govenor 1 year and 9 months over one of the least populated states in the union. About as long as McCain and Obama have been campaigning. WOOOOOWWW. She killed a defenseless caribou with a gun. WOOOOOWWW. She looks like a nerdy prom queen. WOOOOOOWWWW. Gets Limbaugh lusting on her luscious lips like a 13 year old who hasn’t been told the ten commandments (thou shalt not lust on another man’s wife, Limbaugh, you fat stupid pig). WOOOOOOWWW She’s up to 3 scandals since saturday. WOOOOOOOWWW. She’s got a bachelor’s degree in journalism from Idaho. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW. Looks like McCain sure knows his stuff. If he dies in office, which is unfortunately possible due to his age, this journalist educated caribou queen is definately presidential material! Kinda wish it was Kelly Bundy but awell. I am in awe of McCain’s ability to make wise intelligent decisions. Old whiskey and young women! Now that’s family values!
Posted by: Scotti | September 2, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
“”The Sarah Palin situation is rapidly going down hill real fast. James Carville (on CNN) saying that the Republicans need to “plug the leaks in the levee before it burst””"
It is rather obvious that McSame knows he’s lost. He picked Palin as a scape goat. She is so naive and so not VP material. She was not nor will she be vetted by the FBI. That alone is grounds for Romney to crash the convention, which is a moot point anyway thanx to the canes.
It is all in the Alaskan newspapers folks. If I can find it anyone can find it.
1) Troopergate was the first thing CNN released. And now she has to hire a lawyer.
While researching that I find that:
2) She voted for the bridge to nowhere before she voted against it once she heard Stevens was going down.
3) She cost the city of Wasilla $1.5 Million for a chunk of land worth $150,000. No wonder so many in real estate people contributed to her Gov campaign.
4)As to the Commander in Chief experience…Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell, adjutant general of the Alaska National Guard said that the only time she has control over the ANG is during a disater. Even HE has no control during war time. She is not even told where or when the ANG are being deployed!
5) She claims to stand up against big oil and yet she voted to let BP drill in ANWR. Which of course is who her hubby works for. Did you all forget Exxon Valdez already??? Obviously yeah or you are too young. Look it up!
6) and finally….the Governor’s 17 YO daughter is 5 months PG. I don’t care if you are a Governor…Senator…VP…or dishwasher…if your 17 yo daughter got PG would you smile and say you are behind her 100% and look forward to the marriage. And BTW..the daughter wants to marry…but no one has said if the father whoever he is does!!
It’s bizzare…way to bizzare for me!
Posted by: Ron | September 2, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
Why do they call it moose “hunting”?
The moose just stand there and you shoot them.
Its like the old buffalo.
Posted by: REalMenUSeBoWS | September 2, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
McCain, Palin, Bristol, whatever. Just get me to November 4th so I don’t have to listen to all this ranting and outright insanity.
Today, someone actually said that Palin sold a model military plane on Ebay and that was an example of her foreign policy or national security experience. I mean come on. Something else is going on.
Posted by: Donna | September 2, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Hey Ryan C……McCain / Palin 2008 ……McCain’s plan is good and simple.
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Our culture is so steeped in hypocrisy that one wonders whether McCain’s real point was not to connect with us precisely on that level. To celebrate, as it were, the decline of the American republic. Who cares about the vetting process or “judgment”? We will overturn Roe v. Wade, no matter what it takes.
I would submit that this episode is actually quite similar to the case of an NYU department chair who, following allegations of plagiarism, simply continued with the same questionable conduct (to put it mildly), apparently secure in the knowledge that such matters are always discreetly ignored. See
Posted by: View from Here | September 2, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
Wait a minute! This reveals more of Palin’s foreign policy experience! She wants Alaska to _be_ a foreign country!
Posted by: jim | September 2, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Palin, Pregnancy, and Political Theater
by Deb Cupples| For days, the blogosphere has been in a frenzy over John McCain’s choosing Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. McCain made the announcement on his birthday, four days ago — which was the day after the Democratic National C…
Posted by: Buck Naked Politics | September 2, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
alaska wants to be independent??? from what?? plus, who would actually miss alaska if it wasnt there, i mean, i would sure miss their… um… yeah
Posted by: catzrool | September 2, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Gifts just keep coming:
LA Times reporting Sarah Palin has requested 31 earmarks worth $197 million in this year. What a soul mate.
Palin/McCain change that secedes.
Posted by: doug | September 2, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
This poor woman is being eaten alive. I wonder if she had any clue what she was getting herself and her family into. She should use this opportunity to bow out gracefully so John McCain can salvage his chances.
Posted by: berry | September 2, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
McCain, Palin, Bristol, whatever. Just get me to November 4th so I don’t have to listen to all this ranting and outright insanity. – Donna
======================
Going down with the ship eh Donna?
Posted by: brandon | September 2, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
I am impressed by Palin. She’s downtoearth, has a beautiful family and ethical standards which blows Obama out of the water. He failed to fullfill his promises to fight corruption in Chicago and got a house and the biggest campaign wallet in history from corporate lobbyist trying to get another White House prostitute. We had enought of that with Bush, we need real change and it comes from people like Palin.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | September 2, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
Mr Obama, first you get your campaign to attack little girls and now you come out with more BS.
Are you getting desperate?
Anyway, mothers in this country are disgusted with the way you attack those little children.
I guess you feel like a big man now.
You must have something against women and little girls.
Posted by: janephilip | September 2, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
doug – I didn’t know governors asked for earmarks.
Posted by: berry | September 2, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
Jon,
I”l take that as a consent that I was right and you wer eoh so wrong.
Go Obama!
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
You gotta love that McCain was so worried about Obama’s youthfulness and even called his lack of experience dangerous, then he goes and gets VP that has ZERO national experience to replace him which very well could happen. A small town mayor and govenor for just 1 3/4 years…in danger of being deposed for a personal abuse of power…who’s loyalty to the USA is truly in question by this article…and who’s a champion of the abstinance-not condoms-is-what-works theory, is slightly problematic…
Posted by: Ed | September 2, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Absolutely amazing. McCain clinched in February, had six months to meet with, vet, and settle on the most advantageous pick. Sarah Palin is unlikely to be the VP nominee, but if she is, McCain is completely sunk.
Posted by: Edward | September 2, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Obama and Biden put together.
LOL.
Posted by: janephilip | September 2, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
Palin hired a lobbying firm for $27M in earmarks while mayor of that small town.
Under her leadership Alaska has requested some 197.8M in earmarks.
Palin – she was for it before she was against it.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
To RON…..ummm….where do you Obama-bots get your info on Governor Sarah Palin. Here let me educate you some.
1) Trooper Gate…Trooper tasers 11 year old step son, drunk driving in squad car, domestic violence restraing order, poaching Moose out of season, and threaten to kill Governor Palin’s Father???? Umm….yes its’ in the guys discplinary file…why is he still a Fargin Trooper????
2) Anchorage Daily News is owned by Democrats…ummmm….in my opinion they hate anyone not working for BP OIL.
3) Ex-governor 8 years ago, Tony Knowles, Democrat, pleaded against the FTC to allow British Petroleum (BP Oil) to hostile take over ARCO Alaska. A company that local hired, and locally sources and wasn’t corrupt.
4) Thanks to a Democrat, in my opinion, British Petroleum, controls the flow of oil out of Alaska. Hmmm…but I thought the Democrats where gonna fight EVIL oil…LOL What a joke !!
5) Governor Palin is not corrupt, and has brought reform to the State.
6) Governor Palin has been to the Middle East to visit the National Guard too.
7) Currently, Governor Palin is trying to break BP Oils control over the pipeline flow. Ummm….TransCanada Gas line ring a bell ??? Oh…but that’s international negotiation by Governor Palin….how can that be….LOL
8) I was all Americans would start rationally discussing the issues intelligently.
Proven Reform and Real Change…McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
Obama say for more than 20 years in the pew of his “church” listening to Wright (I won’t call him Reverent) say “God damnn America” and did nothing except to applaud.
Obama is patriotic?????
LOL
Posted by: janephilip | September 2, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am
“Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Obama and Biden put together.”
By that standard, she also has an equal amount more executive experience than John McCain.
Ya know since all worked in the legislative branch.
Maybe she should be at the top of the ticket if she’s that much more experienced than McCain.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
yes its’ in the guys discplinary file
No it is not.
.”..why is he still a Fargin Trooper????”
Because she got in trouble when she fired the head of the state police after trying to pressure him to fire Wooten.
All this info was proffered by the Palin family who have now lied in public repeatedly.
There is a bipartisan enabled independent investigation supported by a large number of Republicans. We’ll find out the truth soon enough.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:20 am 2:20 am
“Breaking up the United States – now that is change we can believe in!”
McCain-Palin ’08
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 2:21 am 2:21 am
How are the Republicans going to spin this? It’s impossible. This is now a question of patriotism and love of country. She didn’t just talk smack about America’s politics (at one point or another we all do that)…no no no, she was with a group for two years that plainly and openly wanted to commit treason, break Alaska away from the united states, and start another country because she hated the US that much (and obviously that would’ve led to making war on America). She was against America before she was for it. Just like she was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. You know, at this point, Palin should do the only reasonble thing and decline the nomination. Obviously McCain did not properly vet this choice. She’s on that bridge to nowhere.
Posted by: Scotti | September 2, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
I totally get a kick out of listening to the CNN and MSNBC Guests who defend Palin and reading the comments of all the McCain/Palin 08 Commenters on this blog. They just go on and say why they support Palin with utter disregard to the story their opinion is on. How about putting your AMERICAN hats on and have a serious no BS opinion. I know why… they are all grasping at the straws trying to keep Palin above water! Face it..she’s sinking..
Posted by: Palincomparison2Obama | September 2, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
Alaska First < Weather Underground
Which one did Obama pick?
Posted by: M. Zelenz | September 2, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
Just goes to show you..what goes around comes around. After months of Obama being criticized over a missing flagpin= being unpatriotic. McCain found someone who was a member of an organization which doesn’t put COUNTRY FIRST. This is terrible. I actually feel sorry for Palin and her family who should have been scrutinized in a vetting process that is the only check and balance candidates undergo to find them fit for public office. By not vetting Palin, McCain can be accused of putting Palin and family through trauma. This is not funny, it’s really sad and painful to watch. Mac, Mac, Mac. Especially during the electronic media age when ordinary people have tools at their disposal to research individual backgrounds, unlike days of old, a vetting process is not optional, it’s simply mandatory. Here is a woman being torn down because of a man’s poor judgement. If it continues to heat up Mac will throw her under the bus. Are there any rules which allow the Republican Presidential nominee to change their VP selection according to RNC rules? I tried to find this info but was unsuccessful. Does anyone know? I am very curious.
Somebody has got to talk to Mac and tell him the truth– this is beyond party affiliation, this is a terrible thing to witness for all. At first I was amused, now I am, well, I don’t know what I am feeling.
Posted by: clarity | September 2, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
I’m totally convinced that Palin has absolute magic powers as a CiC.
Come on, face it: has Russia invaded Alaska while she was Governor? Nah? Nah?
There’s your answer.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 2, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
janephilip – are you voting for her only because she’s a woman? I voted for Mitt Romney and settled for John McCain.
I’m saddened that he chose someone that is so unknown by the media that it enabled them to work overtime and dig deep enough to cause trouble. John McCain could have chosen another woman that would be less shock and more proven substance. I don’t have a problem voting for a woman. Just not one that’s so green and vulnerable in national politics. The part I think you are having a problem with is I think before I vote and I think this choice is not what’s best for the party or the country. I think she should bow out while it’s still early. Lord knows she has several family reasons and America would give her grace.
Posted by: berry | September 2, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
What is McCain doing? Seriously, anyone got a clue here?
Posted by: ????WTF????? | September 2, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Ryan C….the Trooper…in Trooper Gate….was suspended without pay. Has 12 offenses in his file. The guy that has a beef with Palin is Halcro…who lost the 2006 primary to her….LOL All this is printed online. Even Monegan has admitted that Governor Palin never told him to fire the guy. The Governor did tell Mr. Monegan that she didn’t want the Psycho Trooper on her security detail. Get your facts straight……Obama is no Messiah, and lying for him won’t earn you wings. Governor Palin is a strong capable women that has broken the oil company corruption, and broke reform to our State.
McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
Brian Glanz wrote:
”
McCain may gamble with his political future, and if the Republican party lets him then he may gamble with their future, but I will not stand for him gambling with America’s future.
The simple fact that the FBI never conducted a background check on Palin is an even larger problem than Palin belonging to an anti-American political party.
”
Sadly the lack of an FBI bg check is not the end of it — check this from Washington Post et al.:
”
The Federal Bureau of Investigation did not participate in the vetting of Gov. Sarah Palin and did not conduct a background check as part of the process, an FBI spokesman said today.
The Washington Post reported Sunday, citing an interview with campaign manager Rick Davis, that the vetting process “included reviews of financial and other personal data, an FBI background check and considerable discussion among the handful of McCain advisers nvolved in the deliberations.
”
Rick Davis, McCain – Palin Campaign Manager, is quoted lying to the Washington Post. They claimed there was an FBI background check of Palin, then the FBI came out to say there was not.
First no background check, and now a cover-up. There is something seriously wrong here and it is time for the Republicans to be honest about it.
Put politics aside for one minute people, and think about the security of this nation. Palin never was vetted, and the McCain people are trying to cover it up. This is bigger than politics, this is about America.
Posted by: USA All The Way | September 2, 2008, 2:31 am 2:31 am
More: “Gov. Palin’s husband, Todd Palin, met with Monegan [the fired state police chief] in January 2007, a month after his wife took office, to say that the trooper was unfit for the force. Monegan also said the governor sent him e-mails, but Monegan declined to disclose them, saying he planned to give them to the independent prosecutor. Palin initially denied that she or anyone in her administration had ever pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. She said she had raised the matter with Monegan just once, relaying the allegation that Wooten made a death threat against her father. But this summer, Palin acknowledged that a half-dozen members of her administration had made more than two dozen calls on the matter to various state officials
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
Thats great! This is a fun math problem.
Alaska First ≠ Weather Underground
Sarah Palin was a member of AIP 8-18 years ago who has the motto “Alaska first”
Barack Obama HAD an acquaintance who was part of the Weather Underground some 35-40 years ago when Obama was 8 years old.
Posted by: Palincomparison2Obama | September 2, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Wow, not even Bush wants to break up the USA. I didn’t think it would be possible, but McCain is actually starting to make Bush look good.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
Re: She says it’s not accurate to describe the party as secessionist — they just want a vote, she says, adding that the members of the AIP hold different opinions on what Alaska should be.
I think the Obama supporters need to read this again. It is clear that ABC has to help Obama by throwing out this. Obama’s dropping in the polls. He should be double digits from McCain. Many experts are saying that.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
Hey Obama-bots….come on lets discuss something like grown ups. As an independent voter I am totally disgusted with your unintelligent angry blogs. Good grief. Read my post boys and girls…..being a fanatic is not a good thing.
Proven Reform and Real Change…McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 2:36 am 2:36 am
jon,
Its not that I think McCain’s tax credit is bad. Its just that I think Obama’s is better and I gave figures for it.
You used bogus figures and bogus math.
People will see which argument is more persuasive.
BTW:Middle-class families get tax cuts that are three times larger from Obama than from McCain
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
Sarah Palin, to this day supports the AIP and even spoke at the 2008 AIP Convention, an organization whose founding member, Joe Vogler, refused to be considered an American citizen:
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”
Posted by: Msswin | September 2, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am
I can’t believe that there are “patriotic conservatives” on this blog defending the BREAK-UP of the USA, all because McCain made the mistake of picking a secessionist. I have nothing against Palin. She is in WAY over her head and it is all McCain’s incredibly bad judgment that is to blame. Nevertheless, would you want a secessionist to be the VP (and very possibly President) of the USA? She can not have 20 abortions — I don’t see how Palin or McCain survive this one.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
Is this the image that we want portrayed in the White House of an unwed teenage mother? I’m a Christian, married, and father of two, and I DO NOT think these are the VALUES rendered in my home. I believe Palin should now step down and save the country an impending embarrassment.
Posted by: newhome08 | September 2, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
janephillips,
Sarah Palin should have been vetted.
Most of this blogs comments are fact based, janephilips. If you are so pro-any woman on the ticket, you should be outraged that a man, McCain, didn’t even show Palin due respect by vetting her to protect her from the most competitive and harsh job interview of her life. Don’t hate the game, hater the player, Mac didn’t do his homework. Obama, did not have anything to do with any of this and you know it. Anyone with a brain knows the Palin scandals was caused by McCain’s poor judgement. I honestly feel for Palin and family. Republicans should be outraged at Mac for not doing his j.o.b.
Posted by: clarity | September 2, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
what a stupid vp select…Seriously!
Posted by: Jason | September 2, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
Re: She says it’s not accurate to describe the party as secessionist — they just want a vote, she says, adding that the members of the AIP hold different opinions on what Alaska should be.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
Joe Vogler, founder of the AIP
“… the fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American Government, …”
Full quote:
“You get to think why the hell do I owe them anything and then you get mad; and you say to hell with them; and you renounce allegiance; and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life, to Alaska; that is how I do it; I am an Alaskan; they know it; I’ve told them to go to hell in every way I can in a nice way; I took a case to the Supreme Court believing in the Supreme Court, but I’d rather be tried in a whorehouse with the madam as the Judge; there is more Justice in a whorehouse than in the Supreme Court; and if they don’t like they know where they can go; ….. and if you think I am ever going to forget that, the fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American Government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag; I’ll be buried in Dawson and when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones back to Alaska, back to my country.”
Posted by: Michael | September 2, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
Obama’s dropping in the polls.”
Obama is beating McCain by 8 in CBS poll.
He’s beating him by 6 in Gallup’s Daily Tracking.
And by 3 in Rasmussen’s tracking.
“He should be double digits from McCain.”
I agree. We’ll get there soon enough as the continuing fallout from his horrendous VP pick.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:44 am 2:44 am
Ummm….Ryan C….your telling me you agree with me. The trooper did threaten her father….and what about the domestic violence restraining order on him??? A law enforcement officer needs to live to higher standards….ummm the drunk driving….the poaching wildlife. If you or I did this we probally wouldn’t be allowed to drive a squad car and carry a fire arm would we???? Get with it. I am telling you that Governor Palin step on some toes up here, and big oil don’t like it when little women hurt them!!!! Go Sarah !!!! And thank you Governor Palin for the $1,200 dollars per person this year. She increased certain taxes on big oil, and gave us a energy rebate this year. LOL Now that is a working class mom that deserves to be leader.
Thank you Governor Palin. Proven Reform and Real Change ….McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
Sean Hannity has been going crazy for the whole year over the fact that Obama knows someone who was a member of the weather underground. Now McCain got a VP who was a member of a secessionist group. this woman was not vetted. Conservatives need to step up and call this woman back. this is ridiculous.
Posted by: Ron | September 2, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
PALIN’S DAYS ARE NUMBERED EXCUSE ME YOU KNOW ALASKA HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST DRUG RATES IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW ,SHE DON’T HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE LIKE HILLARY AND WHAT SHE STANDS FOR IS NOT WHAT WE NEED .MCCAIN DID NOT PICK HER FOR THE WOMEN VOTE ,HE WAS THINKING LIKE A MAN AND WANTS TO KEEP THE MAN VOTE UP HOPING THEY CAN CONVINCE THEIR FEMALE FAMILY MEMBERS TO VOTE FOR HIS TICKET.IBET YOU BY WEDNESDAY HE WILL ANNOUNCE SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE HE HAS TO KNOW WITH ALL HER ISSUES AND WITH HIS LAST CHANCE HE CAN NOT AND WILL NOT WIN TO CHANGE,HOPE AND UNITY
Posted by: jacq | September 2, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
I can’t believe that there are “patriotic conservatives” on this blog defending the BREAK-UP of the USA, all because McCain made the mistake of picking a secessionist. I have nothing against Palin. She is in WAY over her head and it is all McCain’s incredibly bad judgment that is to blame. Nevertheless, would you want a secessionist to be the VP (and very possibly President) of the USA? She can not have 20 abortions — I don’t see how Palin or McCain survive this one.
Posted by: Jim | Sep 2, 2008 2:43:04 AM
What has become of this country????
This is a post by a liberal Democrat who is worried that John McCain has made the wrong choice to be his VP. This guy it would appear would have preferred McCain to make another choice so that he would have a better chance of winning this election???
Oh, puhleeze spare me the BS. I have never seen the Dems more desperate than when McCain selected Palin to be his VP.
Posted by: janephilip | September 2, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Conservatives need to step up and call this woman back. this is ridiculous. Exactly
Posted by: Jason | September 2, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
Palin seems to last about two years in every job from PTA, Councilor, Mayor, Governor before she moves on and up.
That is after she is caught out in lies, ethics violations, multiple
abuses of power, fraud (the land sale),
owned by lobbyists of TransCanada and British Petrolium, earmarks ($197 million from a government she wants to secede from), ad naseum.
She has made it clear that her policy is to put Alaska up for sale to the highest bidders.
She has fought every federal regulation to protect the environment and lives of innocent creatures that live off the land.
She is the ultimate opportunist.
The Republican Party needs to find other candidates. It is not too late for Romney or whomever.
Posted by: susan | September 2, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
You must be kidding..all night you leftists say McCain didn’t vet her. CNN said the FBI did so! LOL. Good grief, it doesn’t say Sarah wanted any such thing to occur. You claim McCain didn’t vet her.. hahaha. Keep this up. You’re making people angry for trying to destroy her and her family..no wonder good people do not want to be in government.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
The United States fought the bloodiest war in our history over the issue of secession from the Union. My ancestors, like many of yours, fought and died on both sides of that conflict and helped forge the freest nation on Earth.
When someone joins a radical group in their youth, we understand them as the growing pangs of intellectual development. However, the future Governor Palin was in her early 30′s when she was a member of this party.
Most of us by that age have formed strong political opinions and follow those opinions the rest of our lives.
The question of loyalty to country should be answered by the time someone is 30 years old.
This adds great import to Todd Palin’s comment, on the birth of their son Trig this past April. “You can’t have a fish picker from Texas.” That’s tantamount to a father in Montana saying, “You can’t have a cowboy born in Michigan.” A strange turn of phrase for an American.
Hypothetically, let’s say Governor Palin is elected Vice President and President McCain was unable to complete his term. If Alaska held a referendum to secede from the United States, and it passed, how would President Palin react? I imagine she would be sympathetic.
Would she follow in Lincoln’s footsteps and use force to preserve the Union? Unlikely.
Following that precedent, what if other separatist groups voted to secede? If America faced an profound economic crisis or of confidence how far could it go?
Vermont, Cascadia, Hawaii, a Reformed Confederate States of America: Would Palin support these initiatives from the left and right political spectrum?
John McCain has already asserted that he is interested in renegotiating Colorado’s water rights for the benefit of Arizona, his home state. Perhaps Colorado should secede to protect it’s water? Of course that is ridiculous. That is why we have elections and the court system.
What would President Palin say?
Posted by: Jacob | September 2, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
jon,
I am not agreeing with you on troopergate. The stuff put out about the trooper has all been coming from the Palin family. The investigation should find out what happened.
“She increased certain taxes on big oil, and gave us a energy rebate this year”
She did not increase any taxes on oil companies. Oil comapny revenues going up mean increased royalties for Alaska. That was a 1 time payout.
She is now proposing to suspend some gas taxes.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:52 am 2:52 am
One of the resolutions passed at the 2000 AIP convention
“Dissolution of the United States Government
A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION PROPOSING THE DISSOLUTION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IF CERTAIN CONDITIONS OCCUR
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Posted by: blakeC | September 2, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
Republicans should be outraged at Mac for not doing his j.o.b.
Posted by: clarity | Sep 2, 2008 2:43:21 AM
Americans, not just Republicans, are outraged that Obama would stoop so low as to attack little girls.
It is not sound tactics to thrash little children. Republicans have never commented on Obama’s children. There is going to be such a backlash against Obama from mothers in this country that he won’t know what hit him.
Posted by: janephilip | September 2, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
why you blame Obama? I am the least to be Obama supporter. But the matter of the truth is Obama didn’t make Palin’s teenage daughter pregnant. He didn’t drag Sarah to the secessionist party’s office and registered her. He didn’t make her fire the state trooper boss. Respect principle. McCain should have vetted this woman. There were other solid conservative women to choose from, too. McCain screwed it up.
Posted by: Ron | September 2, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
To….Ryan C….I live in a city with a Democratic Mayor. Who…in my opinion….is backed by BP Oil, and a large government real estate development company. My property taxes have roughly double in 4 years, my heating bill has double, in fact all the utility bills have been going up 20% a year. The roads are falling apart, and the construction industry is so over regulated that we have to pull a $6 dollar permit to install a dishwasher???? Who are we kidding….Obama is a LAWYER….there is a reason people make mean jokes about lawyers. This Democratic party…in my opinion….is totally out of touch with the working class people. It is no longer the party of working class America, in my opinion, and is a loose collection of special interest groups that fracturing at the seams. As an independent voter I have to vote for REFORM, and John McCain and Sarah Palin are both proven reformers. McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
“McCain didn’t vet her. CNN said the FBI did so!”
“The Federal Bureau of Investigation did not participate in the vetting of Gov. Sarah Palin and did not conduct a background check as part of the process, an FBI spokesman said today.”
Today as in Sept 1st
Yes by all means continue the endless lies Christie
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
The “Straight Talk Express”….is a TRAINWRECK!!!!!!
Posted by: CHAMP STANFORD | September 2, 2008, 3:00 am 3:00 am
“My property taxes have roughly double in 4 years, my heating bill has double, in fact all the utility bills have been going up 20% a year. The roads are falling apart, and the construction industry is so over regulated that we have to pull a $6 dollar permit to install a dishwasher”
Alaska is dominated by the Republican machine(local, state & fed)….and you blame Democrats. The mind boggles.
At least you will get some $2500+ on your royalty check this year. Many families living under Bush’s America are nmot so lucky.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
Today as in Sept 1st
Yes by all means continue the endless lies Christie
Sure, whatever you say! Like they are going to tell you anything. HAHA!
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 3:02 am 3:02 am
>>CNN said the FBI did so! LOL.
And CNN was wrong:
“Although The Washington Post quoted advisers to Mr. McCain on Sunday as saying Ms. Palin had been subjected to an F.B.I. background check, an F.B.I. official said Monday the bureau did not vet potential candidates and had not known of her selection until it was made public.”
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
I’m so incredibly tired of the attacks from the liberal media on Hov. Palin. She’s hardly had a chance to introduce herself and the media has been all over her. It’s pathetic, disgusting and all too familiar of earlier this year when the media ganged up on Hillary. ABC should be ashamed of bringing up this absolute garbage.
Posted by: Eric | September 2, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
I am disgusted. I have voted republican straight ticket since 1980. I am not going to defend or vote for treason. Bob Barr, guess you just got a voter. Sad day for me.
Posted by: USAAlways | September 2, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
“Sure, whatever you say! Like they are going to tell you anything.”
Why would the fbi deny making a background check?
You do know that is SOP for the VP don’t you?
Oh that’s right you believe the McCain camapign not matter how many times the lies are documented. Just like this one.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am
FBI background check is not equal to vetting a VP, although it is part of it. You go through that for a minimum wage job let alone a VP position.
Posted by: Ron | September 2, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Re: F.B.I. official said Monday the bureau did not vet potential candidates and had not known of her selection until it was made public.”
They are not suppose to make any comments. I trust the sources I heard it from. Karl Rowe also said she was vetted and he said I mean vetted! It’s just like the Secret Service denied early reports about Joe Biden being given protection. I think she was vetted. The media is trying to make her look extreme to the independent voters.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
No seriously Palin was an awful choice.
Posted by: Jason | September 2, 2008, 3:12 am 3:12 am
I am as conservative as anyone could be, but I found this woman very disturbing. I am calling for McCain to drop her.
Posted by: Ron | September 2, 2008, 3:13 am 3:13 am
“I trust the sources I heard it from. Karl Rowe also said she was vetted and he said I mean vetted!”
You trust Karl Rove…I am speechless.
Aides to McCain said they had a team on the ground in Alaska, now, to look more thoroughly into Palin’s background.
A Republican with ties to the campaign said the team assigned to vet Palin in Alaska had not arrived there until Thursday, a day before McCain stunned the political world with his vice-presidential choice.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
Well from what I understand McCain wanted to stop all the Buzz about Obama’s big night in Denver. I saw some of his people the day after bragging about how his choice of Palin drew all the attention away from Obama. They succeed beyond their wildest dreams. No one is talking about Obama’s speech anymore. The new topic is McCain’s dementia.
I have to say thanks to all the funny posts here. I have been cracking up.
Posted by: Charles | September 2, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
what has Senator McCain done by announcing Gov.Palin as his running mate? Did he ever do a proper vetting of her? i am just shocked to read now that Gov.Palin was a member of the Alaska independence party.
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” Joe Vogler ….these are the words of the founder of this party and its tragically sad that a man of Sen.McCain’s stature, courage and sacrifice should have taken such an important constitutional office so lightly to nominate a person who was a member of this “alaska first,alaska always” party.Sorry Senator! “America First, America Always”!.
Posted by: derry | September 2, 2008, 3:15 am 3:15 am
“to prevent the increase in tax voted on in 2006″
IOW before Palin came to office. So she had nothing to do with higher taxes on oil companies.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
this woman is a traitor
Posted by: superseka | September 2, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am
Onama coming out today saying leave the family alone after he attended the Daily Kos convention. The blog that started the rumors and disgusting lies. What a fake.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 3:18 am 3:18 am
Wow. I can’t believe Senator McCain picked this woman. This was the best choice in all of the Republican Party to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency? Better than Mitt? Better than Hukabee? Really? Sorry John. You lost me.
Posted by: Tony | September 2, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Joe Vogler, founder of the AIP
“… the fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my HATE for the AMERICAN GOVERENMENT, and I won’t be buried under their DAMN FLAG. …”
Full Quote:
“You get to think why the hell do I owe them anything and then you get mad; and you say to hell with them; and you renounce allegiance; and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life, to Alaska; that is how I do it; I am an Alaskan; they know it; I’ve told them to go to hell in every way I can in a nice way; I took a case to the Supreme Court believing in the Supreme Court, but I’d rather be tried in a whorehouse with the madam as the Judge; there is more Justice in a whorehouse than in the Supreme Court; and if they don’t like they know where they can go; ….. and if you think I am ever going to forget that, the fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American Government, and I won’t be buried under their damn flag; I’ll be buried in Dawson and when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones back to Alaska, back to my country.”
Posted by: Michael | September 2, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am
Ryan C, your thinking seems to be more irrational fears and wild conjectures than facts. We could use a little more civility and reason in political discussions, and a little less shrill sky-is-falling rhetoric.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
“Onbama coming out today saying leave the family alone”
Obama in response to Palin revelations says leave the family alone and that familes are off limits.
McCain in response to TN GOP party running an ad specifically attacking Michelle Obama: Well its unfortunate for families to become involved but I’m no referee.
MCCain doesn’t have the class to protect his own family (see his hiring of guy who slimed him in 2000) let alone his opponents.
Thankfully, Obama has more class.
And that’s why he will be a great President.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
“Who cares if she believes Alaska (and its oil) should be its own country? John McCain was a POW!?”
I love that one. Its so great. So McCain’s POWness is the argument to use when his supports don’t have anything else to use.
Reporter to Rick Davis: “Do you think that John McCain’s decision to drop Governor Palin from the ticket will hurt him in the polls”
Rick Davis to Reporter: ” Define…Polllllss… I don’t catch your drift.. If you mean Poles….John McCain’s POW experience caused him to forget how much the ice caps have melted in the last 5 years”
Posted by: Palincomparison2Obama | September 2, 2008, 3:24 am 3:24 am
I am an Obama supporter and find McCain’s VP choice laughable and indictive of his judgement, or lack thereof. But there is no need to refer to Palin as a “b!tch” or any other demeaning term. She is absolutely not qualified to be VP, but that doesn’t mean we can be nasty to her. Please have some class, as Obama did today when he told the press to back off the pregnancy story.
Posted by: Tanya | September 2, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Re: A Republican with ties to the campaign said the team assigned to vet Palin in Alaska had not arrived there until Thursday, a day before McCain stunned the political world with his vice-presidential choice.
You question me trusting Rowe and you are quoting facts by using a republican ties to the campaign, ok. I am very pleased he picked her. She has done nothing. Read the article.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
The Party of Lincoln is spitting on Lincoln’s Grave buried there after being murdered by a Secessionist by defending a Secessionist and trying to get her elected to the White House.Secessionist are the ultimate UnAmerican’s.
Posted by: dave | September 2, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
So?
Robert Byrd was part of the KKK.
Reagan used to be a Democrat.
Obama was a member of that church with Jeremiah Wright for 20 years which spewed Anti-American hatred.
Posted by: Jerry | September 2, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
To….Ryan C….if you quote me….please don’t use a hatchet. My city for the last six years has been controlled by a Democrat Mayor from a wealthy patrician family…My taxes and utilities have doubled, and the regulation over construction is gotten so bad that you need a permit to pull a permit to get a permit. Now ….how in the heck is this Bushes fault…or any other Republicans fault????? Get your head out of the sand. Hilter and his Socialist needed scapegoats too. As an independent I will not vote for the rotten carcus of the Democratic Party. In my opinion…the Democratic Party..is just a bunch of wealthy Roman patriciana telling whatever lie they need to fool the Roman mob, and did I mention the promise free grain too. Governor Palin and her husband are working class people, and I think it is refreshing. Vote McCain / Palin 2008 and help bring real Reform to America. And get your facts straight about the AIP thing the Democratic paper up here tried that lie already years, and years, and years ago. LOL Did I mention BP Oil likes Democrats…Read about ARCO Alaska, BP Oil, Democrat Tony Knowles, the Federal Trade Commission, and the wonderful world of selling out your voters and your state for a Few Dollars More!!! Oh Hypocrisy….yah hypocrisy…the happy wealthy lawyer Democrats are going to save us all from the evil mean oil companies…LOL…NOT !!!!!
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
Obama-Biden: “We won’t split the USA.” The ads write themselves.
McCAin-Palin: “Secession: now that’s change we can believe in!” followed by creepy laugh.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
“your thinking seems to be more irrational fears and wild conjectures than facts. We could use a little more civility and reason in political discussions, and a little less shrill sky-is-falling rhetoric”
I love calls for civilty immediately after an insult.
I’ve been posting facts.
Your fellow rwers prefer the screaming baseless rhetoric
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
Really, so if some nutbag group comes out and says BO was a member of the black panthers, would ABC believe that too? Did you see any signed documents? Where is the proof? Plus, no FBI official would talk about vetting procedures, they are not allowed to, it is classified. Wow, come on sheeple, if someone writes a blog, does that make it the truth. Tomorrow, I am going to write a “news” story with all of the winning lottery numbers, and if you vote for me, I will send you the numbers. SUCKERS!
Posted by: don't believe the media | September 2, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
Christie: Actually, the faux-baby story was making the rounds on Alaskan Republican websites before it ever got to Dailykos. Drudge, btw, circulated it as well.
I don’t mind that Palin seems to put Alaska first, especially in all her responses about her qualifications for VP (“it will be good for Alaska”).
But if that’s her feeling (and limited “experience”), she should never have accepted the VP slot.
This is after all the United States of America, *not* the United States of Alaska.
Posted by: seriously? palin? | September 2, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
Jon, I got to your email and I stopped. 1st: Christie started the racial ugliness in the blogging and she was maligning Obama supporters..how did it end up with you maligning Obama supporters. We have learned nothing in this country. We are in a serious threat of enemy countries biding their time and look at us. This is too sad.
Posted by: Trish, NC | September 2, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
Re: How any woman can support Obama is beyond me.
Amen.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
I certainly think this is a legitimate story. Anyone who will be a heartbeat away from the presidency should be vetted by the press. Those who are climing that this somehow shows media bias should take a real good look at the vetting that Obama has been getting for 20 months! This is fair game and there is a lot of information coming out about Palin that makes you wonder if she is fit to be VP.
Posted by: Lee | September 2, 2008, 3:28 am 3:28 am
Two words:
JEREMIAH WRIGHT
Apparently Obama gets a free pass being a member of a group that spews hatred for America.
Posted by: Dan | September 2, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
“You question me trusting Rowe”
Anyone who has been watching politics from left or right would have to question that trust.
“and you are quoting facts by using a republican ties to the campaign, ok.”
Yes. IOW I demonstrated that Rove was LYING when he said she was thoroughly vetted.
“I am very pleased he picked her. She has done nothing”
Just keep repeating that to yourself
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
Re: This is after all the United States of America, *not* the United States of Alaska.
Does this mean we can ask all leftists to leave because they are certainly not united to their country.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am
“Aides to Mr. McCain said they had a team on the ground in Alaska now to look more thoroughly into Ms. Palin’s background. A Republican with ties to the campaign said the team assigned to vet Ms. Palin in Alaska had not arrived there until Thursday, a day before Mr. McCain stunned the political world with his vice-presidential choice.”
Posted by: Michael | September 2, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am
I respect McCain. But if he wanted someone young and fresh, he should have picked Jindal or someone like him/her…
Posted by: DB | September 2, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am
LOL, You remember when someone started taking potshots at Sarah Palin the same day McCain announed his choice? Obama said one of his staff had a hair trigger… I think someone in here has been drinking one too many “Rockstar” Energy Drinks in between their Obama worship rites.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 3:32 am 3:32 am
Christie,
Would you hire someone who had smeared your baby adopted daughter as illegitimate and said you cheated on your wife?
John McCain did.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
“your thinking seems to be more irrational fears and wild conjectures than facts. We could use a little more civility and reason in political discussions, and a little less shrill sky-is-falling rhetoric”
I love calls for civilty immediately after an insult.
I’ve been posting facts.<<<<<>>>>>Okay, Ryan C, I’m all ears… lets hear your facts. Give me links with credible sources and I’ll listen to them. If you can provide one legitimate citation for all the things you’ve been saying here you will have beaten me…
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 3:44 am 3:44 am
Centristbychoice…name the subject
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am
“change we can believe in”, shouldn’t that be “sleaze we can believe in” This is the same tactic that Obama used to destroy Clinton’s campaign.
Posted by: econfox | September 2, 2008, 3:46 am 3:46 am
Whoever defends a Secessionist is UnAmerican.
Posted by: dave | September 2, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
Kenyans cannot donate to Obama by law.
McCain was the one who had to return suspiscious donations thru Sargeant.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
Ryan, do you really think that both sides have not hired these kind of people. I think they have because this election has become a blood sport. You know for the longest time, McCain blamed Bush for putting those negative ads up against him/his family in SC. The left wing media was happy to assist that thought, I think. James Carville’s wife recently denied that Bush hired that guy to do that while her husband said Bush got blamed for that unfairly.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am
As a voter, I am very interested to hear Sarah Palin’s story about her being a member of the Alaska Independence Party, and why she left. This is very relevant information IMO, especially in a year where “patriotism” and “country first” are words being thrown around so easily by all the politicians. The media and the public (including myself) wanted to know everything about Obama before, when we barely knew things about him. Is he Muslim? Is he Christian? Is he patriotic enough? What are his policies? etc. I think it’s only fair to do the same with Palin, since we really do not know much about her. If I vote for the McCain ticket, I want to make sure that Palin is also putting the country first, not “Alaska first, the rest of you later”. I want to make sure that she loves this country enough that she would never want to be anything other than a patriotic American. Is that too much to ask for?
Posted by: John | September 2, 2008, 3:49 am 3:49 am
So Basically Palin is a pro-alaskan, anti-american, traitor
Posted by: Palincomparison2Obama | September 2, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am
Christie,
Obama has not hired someone who slimed his daughter and implied he cheated on his wife.
McCain hired the person who did those things. How could he? Is he not ashamed?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am
To….Trish NC…..Are you going to play the…I am more offended than you card on me??? If so…the card is badly worn out. My post are true a factual, and when did true full observation become wrong. For example, I observe on numorous occassion that wolfs are aggressive, and will eat injured animals, small dogs, and half eaten carrion. So I say…to myself..these wolfs are meat eaters. Then I have you come up, and say…”Have you no manners??? How dare you be so judgemental and narrow minded about these wolves to unfairly stereotype them so!!!!” and for good measure you would probally call me “You Bush loving war monger!!!!”, even though I am an objective independent voter. Sorry Trish….I have read enough type from both parties to reach a conclusion based on observation that a certain group of people, they favor Obama, are not talking facts intelligently, and are making personal attacks without good objectivity. Sorry to say it Obama is not qualified in my opinion, his energy plan is flawed, his tax plan flawed, his economic plan is flawed, and he reminds me of the failed policies of Jimmy Carter. As an independent I will vote McCain / Palin 2008 at this time. I’ve heard enough unfactual slander about Governor Palin to last a life time.
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
I truly hope the pathetic display of aborted reason shown here is not representative of the majority of voters. Are we become a nation of lab rats, pulling the voting lever out of fear of shock or for a pellet of food?
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
jane,
Obama is an American. John mcCain is an American.
John McCain is a man who would hire someone who would slime his own family.
Obama says familes should be left out.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
PalInComparison2Obama
Posted by: Palincomparison2Obama | September 2, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
Go ahead make fun of Gov. Palin, she will break the glass ceiling and have the last laugh on the sexist party of Obama, Pelosi and the DNC. First you attack Hillary and now the Gov. of Alaska, our next Vice President. The media is in the back pocket of Obama and the male dominated political world.
PUMApac understands !!!
McCain/Palin !!!
Posted by: Elane | September 2, 2008, 3:53 am 3:53 am
I can see it now, Palin on Oprah
For the first time in my life I want the United States to remain one country…sniffle…sniffle
Tears rolling down face, Tammy Fay Bakker style, mascara everywhere. And the next day shes out, and Fred Thompson steps in, BOOYAH!!!
Posted by: MEA CULPA | September 2, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
centristbychoice…offer is one the table. Name the subject
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
Re”Robert Byrd was part of the KKK”.
He probably still is. He was in the Civil War :o)
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
Centristbychoice…name the subject…
Ryan C, I gave you an open choice… so you delay further by asking me to name the subject? Heavens, man, have you no cojones at all?
Build a reasoned argument by using evidence on your multitude of claims; e.g. Palin is a secessionist, McCain did not vet her, McCain is a chicken thief… whatever. Any party shill can come in here making wild claims and obfuscating the facts, but if you made sense using logic and reason, people would at least respect your opinions.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
Jon, you don’t get it. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and hopefully it makes senses. What sense does it make to be nasty or say ugly remarks to state your opinion.
When I look in the crowds at Obama stumps I see all races…there must be a reason.
When I look in the crowds at McCain stumps I see only one race…there must be a reason.
My focus is on the safety of this country and that’s for all our sakes.
Posted by: Trish, NC | September 2, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
WOW this is crazy stuff..I don’t she’ll last long after this week.
Posted by: lee | September 2, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am
Damn Mccain made a big mistake, she will not last this week.
Posted by: Tom | September 2, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
“Palin is a secessionist, McCain did not vet her, McCain is a chicken thief”
I never claimed she was a secessionist.
MCCain’s “vet” team did not even go to Alaska until Thursday. They claimed she was background checked by the FBI but the FBI said they have not conducted a backgrounbd check on her. Simply google it.
As for the 3rd one, I have no idea if McCain has stolen chickens.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
Wow, Palin is a joke! If she can’t keep her own underage, unmarried daughter from sleeping around, how can she possible be good enough to be a heartbeat from the presidency? Oh, yeah, and this is an issue that should be brought up freely, since she chose to put herself in the public light knowing that her daughter would be front and center. This woman only speaks of good Christian values, while she has nothing to show for it. I don’t see any conservatives being willing to vote for this ticket considering that McCain cheated earlier as well. The only choice for true conservatives is Bob Barr in this election.
Posted by: Jack V. | September 2, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
These people making statements that Palin is disqualified for presidency because her daughter is pregnant…
This is what is called a strawman argument.
No one has argued that having a baby = unqualified.
There are plenty of other reasons that Palin is unqualified mostly being her only major office experience started when John McCain formed his 2008 exploratory committee.
That and her candid (repeated) admission that she has no idea what the VP does.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
These people making statements that Palin is disqualified for presidency because her daughter is pregnant…
This is what is called a strawman argument.
No one has argued that having a baby = unqualified.
There are plenty of other reasons that Palin is unqualified mostly being her only major office experience started when John McCain formed his 2008 exploratory committee.
That and her candid (repeated) admission that she has no idea what the VP does.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
Sarah Palin appears to be an honest and morally upright person, and that’s rare in politics. (I have dealt with her a bit, as an Alaska Libertarian.) She even has a decent understanding of the Bill of Rights, according to medical marijuana and jury rights activist Frank Turney, who is an expert on the subjects.
Sarah Palin is as benevolent as a mainstream Republican gets. She is honest to goodness pro-gun. She is almost, but not quite, libertarian in her political philosophy. But she would probably be at least as good of a president as Bob Barr would be.
Palin is the exact opposite of McCain, who is a slimy manipulative lying bastard. Interesting that the problem and the solution are on the same ticket this year.
I expect that people who learn more about Sarah will like her, because she is not a typical lying politician (like John McCain is). She doesn’t want to hurt people and ruin lives, for political gain.
Joe Biden is the exact opposite. He is the author of “the Rave Act” which puts party promotors in jail for holding parties if ANYONE brings drugs to the party. Biden couldn’t be slimier, or more a representative of the status quo.
McCain’s job is simple. Get out of Sarah’s way, and let her track record and image speak for itself. If anyone can save the trundling monster that is McCain, it is Sarah Palin.
Peace,
-Jake
Posted by: Jake Witmer | September 2, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
To….Alaska_1st….look if you think your funny….your probally right. However, wouldn’t it be better for the country if we were intelligent in our postings so we could learn the facts. Here is a few facts….Alaska has Russians, eskimos, indians, Japanese, Koreans, Thai, Canadians, Germans, rednecks, disenfranchised working class, Samoan, Cambodian, Chinese, English,people from latin American, Some Spanish folk too, and yes we even have……muslims :)…okey, okey, okey…we have African Americans too. Alaska is an International Hub. If you read a bit…Sarah Palin’s husband is part Yu’Pik eskimo. Did you realize that said eskimos were in Alaska first, kinda like the native indians in the lower 48 states. Gee….why would people in Alaska …like a Yu’Pik Eskimo be at a AIP meeting. LOL hahahahahahahahha……Yu’Pik eskimo…Native Rights…..are you getting the picture yet. Alaska…was not Russias to sell….Alaska was first owned by the Native People (that would include Yu’Piks). Just like the Native Indians that used to own New York. So what would Sarah Palin and her part Yu’Pik eskimo husband see in the AIP????? Sorry …..when you slander people….do your homework folks…PLEASE!!!! John McCain is a brilliant tactician, and worthy of commander in chief. McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am
Jon
How do you know what’s fact or not fact. Did you know that Palin was not vetted. Fact is the vetting team arrived in Alaska a day before McCain made the announcement and he only saw her once before giving her the job. So as far as I’m concerned you can go with McCain, we don’t need you voting for Obama. Your judgement is impaired, so it makes since you vote for McCain/McLame
Posted by: Drew | September 2, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am
I don’t know if it is hilarious or just sad to watch these McCain supporters desperately clutch at Hillary supporters with a mix of utterly racist and anti-feminist drivel. They are delusional. The people McCAin needs to sway are INDEPENDENTS — not extremely liberal, pro-choice women who supported Hillary and who will NEVER vote for creationist pro-lifers who will overturn Roe v Wade. A few may not like Obama much, but they are not so stupid as the GOP assumes: SUPREME COURT. They care about that more than Obama.
And you aren’t going to sway independents with “Liberate Alaska” Palin. Most independents probably don’t want to BREAK UP THE USA. Just a hunch.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am
Ryan C, I googled the story… the FBI says they don’t do background checks.
The Atlantic.com ran the story, anyone can find it here:
So what are you saying about this? She wasn’t vetted by the FBI? Is that a requirement of presidential candidates? Her husband had a DWI 22 years ago… is that also a good reason to disqualify her? Aren’t most of the members of congress guilty of the same thing?
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 4:21 am 4:21 am
Good night to all. We will agree to disagree. I am for McCain/ Palin! I don’t care what the anti-pro America leftists throw out. There’s NO way.. NO WAY, I am voting for Barrack with his preacher influence at hand and Michelle who thinks America is a mean country.
Posted by: Christie | September 2, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am
Come november 4th all of you Obamah-Bin-den…better have a syanide capsule prepare…for your dispair wont have any consolation.
Swallow it! John Sidney MacCain is America’s next President. Not Barrack Hussein Obama. Someone, who can not even provide a Birth Certificate! …this is why, he is so scared of the upcoming FBI scrunity of all candidates as matter of fact, that he is telling his supporters “Hands-Off!” Palin’s daughter. He knows what is in store for him and it is coming…i think in the end, Hillary was right when she said: till the election day anything can happen! and it will happen.
The FBI news is going to explode! not only Obama Hussein Barrack, but the entire Democratic-ticket.
Posted by: Naurus Elliot | September 2, 2008, 4:25 am 4:25 am
These people making statements that Palin is disqualified for presidency because her daughter is pregnant…
This is what is called a strawman argument.
No one has argued that having a baby = unqualified.
There are plenty of other reasons that Palin is unqualified mostly being her only major office experience started when John McCain formed his 2008 exploratory committee.
That and her candid (repeated) admission that she has no idea what the VP does.
>>>> Get your facts straight, Ryan C. She was elected governor in 2006, and if I’m not mistaken, governor experience was good enough to elect Bill Clinton for 2 terms.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 4:25 am 4:25 am
Ummm Centrist by choice did you read the part of the story demostrating a lie by the McCain campaign.
The Washington Post reported Sunday, citing an interview with campaign manager Rick Davis, that the vetting process “included reviews of financial and other personal data, an FBI background check and considerable discussion among the handful of McCain advisers nvolved in the deliberations.
“In general, we do not do vetting for political campaigns except as it might regard investigations needed for security clearances,” said John Miller, the chief FBI spokesperson.
Reports have McCain’s vetting team arriving in Alaska on Thurs. Do you consider that to be a thorough vetting for an announcement on Fri?
Her husband habving a DUI when he was 22 is of little concern to me.
Her extreme rw views and willing abuse of power of her office are what scare me.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am
Part Yu’Pik Eskimo…..Part Yu’Pik eskimo….Now why would a part Yu’Pik eskimo (Native Alaskan) be at an AIP meeting with his wife Sarah Palin. LOL Because Native Alaskans feel the same way alot of native indians in the lower 48 feel about their land being sold without their permission…. Gee…John McCain did vet his VP Governor Palin. I can’t wait for someone to say she hates minorities. LOL Native Alaskans (eskimos) have a right to disapprove of a Federal government that locks up their land. It’s a States right issue with the AIP, and a heritage right for a Yu’Pik eskimo. So why was it so important to the Palins to have their baby born in Alaska, since that baby is part Yu’Pik??? McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am
Isn’t it amazing to see people blogging just to get some hate out. Christie & JanePhillip haven’t said anything about the issues and state of this country. Jane, by the way, Obama is the only person to say the media shouldn’t hound the Palin familial situation. Anyway, see you at the polls Nov. 4th!. You too, Jon.
Posted by: Trish, NC | September 2, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am
It doesnt sound right to hear that a parent should go on controlling her child`s hormones;to be honest in the present world it is kind of normal for 16,17 year olds to sleep around.I think what the lady has achieved-from being in the PTA,to being a mayor,and finally to being a governor is testament enough that she has some executive experience.We all know some of the old people-who claim to be experienced,are the the ones who have made blunders in the last eight years.
The thing is that the lady is young and she shows some willingness to cope up to each step she takes; I think one of the greater qualifications one should have to be president.
Posted by: Otuya Odeke David | September 2, 2008, 4:28 am 4:28 am
Sarah Palin was sworn in on Dec 4th 2006.
John McCain formed his exploratoy committee for President in mid Nov 2006.
Agaian, John McCain has been running for President longer than Palin has been governor.
Come to me with facts, not weak attacks.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am
Yes, I fully supported Hillary and was disappointed that she is not the one running for prez. There were many reasons that I supported her, HOWEVER, it wasn’t because she has a vagina!!! Any person who claims to support Hillary and now says they are voting for McSame because of his lil gun toting, fundamentalist, pro-lifer, who “hasn’t really given Iraq much thought” is a LIAR. Palin as VP, is an insult to all of the TRULY qualified GOP women who could have been given this historic opportunity. It is also an insult to the 18 million Hillary supporters to think that we would be swayed by such an obvious, desperate ploy. NO
WAY!!! Palin is the antithesis of everything Hillary has worked for her entire career. It is positively frightening that a woman who obviously can not communicate effectively with her children and has so little experience would be a heartbeat away from the presidency. Especially since McSame is the oldest candidate ever, has had multiple melanoma episodes and exhibits the early stages of Alzheimer’s.
Posted by: ahilarysupporter | September 2, 2008, 4:30 am 4:30 am
‘The planks in our party’s platform — they’re sound, they are solid. They are the right agenda for America.’ ~ from Sarah Palin interview.
Really?
Other questionable positions:
Alaskan Independence
Anti-choice
Creationist
Global Warming Conspiracy Theorist
Anti-Gay
Anti-Environment
Charges of corruption and abuse of power
Pro-oil Dependency
What next?
Posted by: Failed Policies | September 2, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am
Veep Gate is Trooper Gate, Baby Gate, Bridge Gate, Vetted Gate all rolled up into one.
Now you can add AIP Gate to the equation. To the Republican Party, get Palin out of here now. The nomination hasn’t officially been given to her yet. Give Romney and the rest a chance at the GOP convention this week. At least we know where they stand.
Posted by: Larry | September 2, 2008, 4:35 am 4:35 am
Barack Obama’s acceptance speech was watched by 38.4 million people, the most-watched presidential speech ever, according to Nielsen estimates.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am
Mr McCain, If you can’t do your homework any better than this, convince me then what qualifies you to lead my country. Too many lies/secrets. I do not for one minute have an ounce of confidence in Gov. Palin to act as Commander in Chief were she called to be. That absolutely affects my vote. BAD CHOICE!
Posted by: jenni | September 2, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
I’m a pretty staunch Republican. I like McCain on most issues, but I have to say, this choice is embarassing.
In my opinion, there’s nothing more un-American by defintion than being part of a group that wants to secede from the Union. I understand the arguments that Alaska has several different types of people, but I draw the line where people associate themselves with this. Any way you slice it, it appears to be a radical viewpoint, and I can’t understand why McCain would bring in someone with this background.
Perhaps Palin was pandering to her constituency, but that kind of association will not fly, and is frankly unacceptable for a potnetial VP nominee.
Best case scenario: she doesn’t formally accept the nomination, and the campaign gets back on track with a more strategic choice. Don’t think it will happen, but I think Palin is a sinking ship, and it’s honestly making me question McCain’s judgement, despite my support for him in the past.
Posted by: Rob | September 2, 2008, 4:49 am 4:49 am
2008 exploration committee”
I think it was quite clear that I was speaking of the current election when citing 2008. That is unless you think McCain formed his exploratoy committee 3days before the first primary election?
Facts are facts.
McCain formed his exploratory committee (the first official sign of running) in mid Nov 2006.
“Anyways, you never did respond to the fact that Bill Clinton had only governor experience when he was elected president”
And as I recall the right wing and GOP called him inexperienced based on being from a small state and only have 2 terms under his belt.
Nice to see they think 20 months now means one is fully qualified.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am
American “Politics”: the best comedy on international TV.
Posted by: Otis | September 2, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am
To….Drew…umm…yes it’s a fact Governor Palin was vetted, she got here shots, and city license too. (JOKE) All this vetting garbage makes me think of my dog and his vet. LOL :) Actual a good friend told me that Governor Palin was being considered as a VP months ago, and I laughed at him some. He said he thought she had good qualities. Me being my practical self was thinking Pawlantry, because (in my opinion) the liberal left would have a hate feast with a white Mormon business man as a VP (Romney). It is really ridiculous coming from a party (liberal democrates) that preaches tolerance and understanding that they would hate a person for having a religion, but then again Catholic Priest and the Pope has preached abstinance and we have all read in the papers about how well that went for young alter boys. (joke) Again I try to point to the hypocrisy of the liberal democrat platform, as the independent that I am. However, I digress…..yes Sarah Palin got her vet shots and city dog tag license months ago. You see….my friend….has an uncanny knack of calling things correctly. Just think of me as Winnie the Pooh, and him..as Mr. Owl. He’s older then me too, so I tried calling him senile, blustered that age brought no wisdom…..but well…I guess in my Youthful way….I was wrong. Gee….why were we taught, back before we threw away or traditions to embrace the utopic euphoria of liberalism, to respect are elders. Hmmmmmm….hmmmm….Once vetted twice shy!!! McCain / Palin 2008
Ummm…..did I mention ….the word Yu’Pik Eskimo……that would be….Governor Palin’s husband. Yah…ummm ….her husband is part Yu’Pik Eskimo…and well AIP is quite understandable to me. It is not about leaving the Union. It is about the States right to manage its’ own lands. I guess native Alaskan people like the Yu’Pik want their heritage.
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am
Ryan C said, “Ummm Centrist by choice did you read the part of the story demostrating a lie by the McCain campaign.
The Washington Post reported Sunday, citing an interview with campaign manager Rick Davis, that the vetting process “included reviews of financial and other personal data, an FBI background check and considerable discussion among the handful of McCain advisers nvolved in the deliberations.
“In general, we do not do vetting for political campaigns except as it might regard investigations needed for security clearances,” said John Miller, the chief FBI spokesperson.
Reports have McCain’s vetting team arriving in Alaska on Thurs. Do you consider that to be a thorough vetting for an announcement on Fri?
Her husband habving a DUI when he was 22 is of little concern to me.
Her extreme rw views and willing abuse of power of her office are what scare me”
>>> My response to this is, what extreme rw views? What abuse of power? Stop tapdancing around and bring facts. As to the vetting, I didn’t know it was the FBI’s job to vet candidates… I thought it was the presidential party’s nominee that chose the candidate. If you want the country’s federal police to choose your candidates, you should visit Pakistan and see how their system works… the Pakistani people might like it but I prefer the USA.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am
As a secessionist, she must side with Russia in the South Ossetian’s claim for independence from Georgia. When is someone going to ask her that?
Posted by: JoeC | September 2, 2008, 4:55 am 4:55 am
I have watched this Jerry Springer episode for a second day. I hadn’t said anything, but this is the straw that broke the camel’s back. I am a stay-at-home mom who homeschools. The hypocrisy of Palin’s supporters is mind-boggling. Maybe those who have something invested in being republicans can stand by and support her for VP. My husband has already decided that Obama and Biden are safer choices. I have to agree with him, after reading this and watching the video.
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am
Who cares? Alaska Shmalaska. Be worried when California and Texas break off.
Posted by: Secessionistus | September 2, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am
I say it’s enough of Republican Corruption already.
The Republican party is ready to bring in enough new conservative judges to be able to stop women’s choice and to put women in jail if they stop a pregnancy–even if they have been victims of rape.
I do not want to go back to the middle ages. We already had one president who believed that God created the world in 7 days and that Jesus will come back floating on a cloud…
I cannot take a vice-president like that anymore.
It is too much.
This year,
I go Democrats all the way.
Posted by: Al | September 2, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am
Exactly why Palin made her mark by taking on her own Republican party plus Democrats and Independents. She’s not viewing the world through a partisan lens so rose-colored that she can’t see the waste and corruption right in front of her eyes.
McCain/Palin is the ticket that will Change The Way Washington Works. They aren’t pie in the sky Change We Can Believe In – They’re Proven Change.
Posted by: marylou | September 2, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am
As a conservative Republican I feel obligated to vote for McCain. I do think that Palin is a disgrace to all of us who call ourselves republicans, God help us. It is not so much her belief but rather the baggage she carries with her.
Posted by: RepublicanGirl | September 2, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am
And for those who decry the organization’s “Alaska First” motto – you do know that Obama’s 20-year church has an “Africa First” creed, don’t you? Spin that for a while!
Posted by: marylou | September 2, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am
My response to this is, what extreme rw views? What abuse of power?
She believes in teaching creationism in public schools. She believes that the birth control pill, IUD and Nuvaring s form of abortions (they’re called abortifacet by the anti crowd).
She fired a public official for political reasons and then suspended another when that official failed to fire her brother in law. That investigation is ongoing.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am
Palin obviously puts career ahead of family. She can’t even take care of her own daughters. That’s a great example for all American teenagers. “If the VPs daughter can sleep around at age 17, why can’t . . .” Yep, Palin should maybe focus more on her family, and maybe in 4 years she’ll be qualified. As for McCain, kick Palin out and bring a TRUE conservative in, Huckabee!!!
Posted by: Jack V. | September 2, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am
The republican machine can work overtime, trying to plug all the leaks. But, it is obvious, McCain did not choose wisely. I was surprised at his choice, since I am a Texan and know many fine candidates from my home state. The Palin nomination is really starting to scare me. I supported Huckabee and donated money to his campaign. I feel that those of us who are truly conservative, should speak the truth now–before it’s too late.
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am
“The AIP connection is a red herring brought out by desperate Obama-bots. I think most people familiar with this story find any implication that Palin endorses secession laughable.”
Ryan C said, “Its not the secessionst angle though that is funny. Its the extreme right wing views.”
I thought you were going to bring facts to the game… what did you bring? Nothing.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am
John Mccain. You’ve got three trys to get this VP pick right. You totally flubbed the first try with this Palin lady. Let me suggest to you that Mitt is still available. At least we know that he wont try to break America up. Sleep on it Johnny because the clock isa ticking. If you really brought her aboard in order to try to get the Hillary votes, why not dump her and bring Hillary aboard as your VP. Johnny. If all else fails, i am a decent guy and an ex-Viet Nam Vet.I figure that i know just as much as Palin does.I will come and save the day.
Posted by: johnnylee | September 2, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am
I thought it was the presidential party’s nominee that chose the candidate.
Yes and the point is the McCain campaign claimed she had a background check with the FBI. That was a lie.
They claim she was vetted. But now its been revealed that vetters did not go to Alaska until Thurs.
So basically Palin was not thoroughly vtted and the McCain campaign has lied about the scale of her vetting.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
This AIP story is definitly a red herring. Governor Palin’s husband is part Yu’Pik eskimo. Ummm….AIP…is about a states rights to manage its land and resources. How would the people of California feel if the Federal Government made Malibu beach a National Park and said no one can walk on the beach anymore, and then the Federal government authorizes putting a oil well in downtown LA. The California people would say…”What are you doing???? Don’t we have a say??? This is our state, we live here, and we can manage our resources ourselfs!!!!” I am pretty sure everyone gets the point. This story on AIP is herring pure red herring. AIP is about state rights and native Alaskan rights. Governor Palin’s husband is part Yu’Pik eskimo which means he and his people have a heritage to the land of Alaska, just like the native American indians.
End the Hypocrisy…Vote Real Reform…vote McCain / Palin 2008
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am
Can someone please call Sam Brownback!
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am
Secession!?
THIS IS TREASONOUS!!!
Posted by: Perry | September 2, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am
Wow! ABC is so biased, that they should just give the election to Obama and get his campaign money for there promotion!
Can’t the news report the issues of the campaign, like the economy, drilling. Keep the kids out of the race, what is McCain/Palin going to do?
How about Obama and his association with Ayers, Jeremiah Wright? How about Biden and his Plagerism?
Posted by: Jerry | September 2, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am
Now that this VP pick is an official fiasco, it might be a good time for John McCain to loudly remind everyone that he was a POW.
Posted by: FilmMD | September 2, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am
“How would the people of California feel if the Federal Government made Malibu beach a National Park and said no one can walk on the beach anymore,”
Pssssst California has many national parks and lands set aside as federally protected as many states do.
That has been going on since Teddy Roosevelt first started conservation.
You wonder how in the world Bush gets elected twice and then you run into Bush voters.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am
jon, McCain is real reform? He’s full of lies. He’s not even a bit conservative. Compared to Huckabee, or even Romeny, McCain looks like a idiot. And the fact that he only chose his candidate based on gender is unacceptable. I hope there is an outrage from conservatives, because this is total BS. Huckabee is a million times more qualified for the VP position than Miss Alaska ever will be.
Posted by: Jack V. | September 2, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am
I thought it a pretty strange thing to say, but I guess the AIP connection explains her comment that being VP would be good for Alaska.
Posted by: Tom J | September 2, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am
“I thought you were going to bring facts to the game… what did you bring? Nothing.”
Ryan C said, “For someone who demands so much you sure don’t post much in the way of facts. You deliberately leave things out time and again.
If you think the AIP would be considered mainstream to most Americans, I’m not sure what to tell you.”
You are right, AIP is not that well known, and there is a lot we are both leaving out. But you are getting creative with the facts, and that’s what worries me… a party of people in control of this country, bending the facts to suit their own needs… that is not a path most Americans are willing to follow, I’ll bet.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am
” In my opinion, there’s nothing more un-American by defintion than being part of a group that wants to secede from the Union. I understand the arguments that Alaska has several different types of people, but I draw the line where people associate themselves with this.”
My Answer: The Lakota Native Indians declared themselves Independent from the United States about 6 months ago. The Lakota nation is a sovereign nation. You don’t seem to know US history too well. All of the Native Indians in the United States are basically sovereign territories that have various treaties with the United States federal government. Under the UN Charter, the Native Indians can disassociate themselves from the United States if they wish as their lands were initially stolen from them by the British, Spanish and French Monarchies, and also the US government upon becoming INDEPENDENT from england.
If a group of people desire more self-determination is that really radical or a revolutionary act that can be perceived as necessary and quite natural, so natural in fact it has occurred hundreds of times in western civilization, particularly as oppressive as western civilization has been with its own people and then toward people of other ethnic groups.
People are free to form associations that is the basis of the social contract. And people are also free to alter their form of government as well.
Posted by: Dark Goddess | September 2, 2008, 5:18 am 5:18 am
a party of people in control of this country, bending the facts to suit their own needs”
Um welcome to the Bush years.
With its manipulated intelligence to go to war, redacted reports on the environment etc etc
You can take your head out of the sand now/
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am
One of the reasons our young people don’t listen to us is because they hear adults lying all the time. I see where a poster says ABC News is biased and didn’t report all the dirt on Obama or Biden. That is a bald-faced lie. Whether some of us like it or not, Obama and Biden went through the primary process and have been vetted by the party voters. Now, it is time for us to stop pointing fingers and clean our own house. Again, I would like to see Sam Brownback nominated to replace Palin.
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 5:21 am 5:21 am
I know someone’s prolly said it already but forget about country first, it’s Alaska first with Palin!
Posted by: Crake | September 2, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am
For everyone wondering what Brownie’s been up to since he left FEMA after Katrina, the question is answered: Brownie’s heading up the “McCain VP Vetting Team”!!
You’re doin’ a heckuva job there, Brownie, a heckuva job!
Contintued incompetence and unwillingness to admit a mistake – what’s on the GOP menu.
Posted by: JW | September 2, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am
To…Dark Goddess…and…Centristbychoice….I like your most recent posting. You hit things on the head nicely. Very good points.
REFORM REFORM REFORM and Intelligent dialogue
Posted by: jon | September 2, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am
If this VP pick is an example of how McCain would run the country…no thanks. There was a NYT article that questioned whether she was even vetted. I personally don’t hold it against Palin that her daughter is pregnant. Her policies bother me. She advocates sex education only if abstinence is included…if she can’t make it work in her household how does she expect it to work for the rest of us.
Posted by: wlw100 | September 2, 2008, 5:27 am 5:27 am
How can any American accept a President who has nothing to say but “I stand for Change” Change WHAT? Just what does Obama believe in? He did nothing during his term in Congress. He hardly voted for anything! He has less experience than Palin and he is running for President, not the VP! I would rather have a person who has fought for our country, gave his blood for our country, suffered for our country, loves our country, BELIEVES in our country, and has FAR MORE EXPERIENCE in running our country than some inexperienced, “stand for nothing”, African who has shown little love for our country and disrespect for all that it was founded on! But hey, he stands for change! So how can he be bad? Let’s just BLINDLY vote for change and see what we get! All that is riding on it is our entire way of life! Our entire freedom! Our safety! Our childrens future! That is how Communism was ushered into the Soviet Union! They wanted change! They got it!
Posted by: Charles | September 2, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am
I guess this is McCain’s way of getting out of our “nation of whiners.”
McCain-Palin: “Why have one country, when we could have 50!?!”
She’s toast. And so is McCain.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am
I thought it was the presidential party’s nominee that chose the candidate.
Ryan C said, “Yes and the point is the McCain campaign claimed she had a background check with the FBI. That was a lie.
They claim she was vetted. But now its been revealed that vetters did not go to Alaska until Thurs.
So basically Palin was not thoroughly vtted and the McCain campaign has lied about the scale of her vetting.”
What I read in that article is that they claimed they had a process and their process called for those checks. The McCain team was considering Palin six months ago. Your argument that she was not thoroughly vetted means that she simply wasn’t vetted thoroughly enough for you, and you are voting for Obama… so what is your point? Are you trying to say that she should’ve been vetted by a panel of Obama supporters? The FBI says they don’t get involved in “vetting” candidates; only performing those investigations of financials and such records as are mandated by federal law.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
Frankly, I am tired of hearing about Obama. This is the Republican’s problem. McCain created it and he needs to fix it, or the party needs a new nominee for president and vice-president. I will take Brownback, Romney or Huckabee. At least they have been vetted by voters in their states.
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am
It’s great to see the Libs scared to death of Palin.
Posted by: Hillary | September 2, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am
a party of people in control of this country, bending the facts to suit their own needs”
Ryan C said, “Um welcome to the Bush years.
With its manipulated intelligence to go to war, redacted reports on the environment etc etc
You can take your head out of the sand now/”
I can agree with you on this point, I think we have eight years too many of Bush, and no, I am not a registered republican. I think the two party system has been a handy way for politicians to divide the spoils through the electoral process.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 5:42 am 5:42 am
I think FBI should be involved in this.
Posted by: nat | September 2, 2008, 5:43 am 5:43 am
ABC News is not biased. I read for months on end, every negative tidbit anyone ever said about Obama and some even about Hillary. So many people who are complaining now, enjoyed the dogfight between the dems. They enjoy and still repeat everything negative about Hillary and Obama. But, now that it is Palin, it is wrong and biased. Stop lying to yourselves. Stop lying to our children. What kind of example are you setting? Lies are lies. It doesn’t matter who tells the. Palin was not vetted or McCain has bad judgement. Time for new candidates.
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 5:44 am 5:44 am
Haven’t you guys scared us all enough for a while?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am
McThuselah went with his “gut” and the GOP is going to pay for it, big time. Bush went with his gut and America paid for it big time.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am
“What I read in that article is that they claimed they had a process and their process called for those checks.”
Ryan C said, “What you read was a baldfaced lie. You can try to keep calling it truthy bu that will not make it so.
Do you consider making one’s 1st visit to Alaska to do interviews and talk to other legislators should be done sooner than 1 day before you announce the VP pick?
McCain met her once 6 months ago. That is not a vetting.
“The FBI says they don’t get involved in “vetting” candidates; only performing those investigations of financials and such records as are mandated by federal law”
Actually they do it as part of national security.
Again, I am not saying FBI checks are required for a running mate. I am saying the McCain campaign claimed that as a means of covering up their poor vetting. They lied.”
Well, I guess you can volunteer to be part of the firing squad. To be quite honest, this doesn’t sound like a conspiracy to me, nor an intentional deception. This is the same kind of attack-dog reflex that other Obama supporters have used, and it just shows the bitterness of partisan politics at its worst.
Posted by: CentristbyChoice | September 2, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am
At least, I can say this about Hillary and Obama–they took their drubbings like a man. Hillary and Bill complained some–but they never asked for protection or ran for cover. For them the campaign was rough, it was tough and it was a major smackdown. So, is Sarah Palin less tough than Hillary Clinton? Say it isn’t so????
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 5:55 am 5:55 am
“Well, I guess you can volunteer to be part of the firing squad. To be quite honest, this doesn’t sound like a conspiracy to me, nor an intentional deception”
So what was the deception due to then? incompetence?
I don’t think its a conspiracy. I think its a lie. A lie in service of a campaign looking to cover up how badly they were unprepared for this VP.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 5:55 am 5:55 am
It’s only partisan politics if the other guy is doing it.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am
No matter how you slice it–McCain didn’t do a proper vetting or he did do a proper vetting, but chose Palin anyway….it looks like poor judgement or his part. It’s also reckless. This is not the media’s fault or the democrats fault. McCain just lost two votes in my household because of this.
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 6:00 am 6:00 am
LA Times reports:
One Republican strategist with close ties to the campaign described the candidate’s closest supporters as “keeping their fingers crossed” in hopes that additional information does not force McCain to revisit the decision. According to this Republican, who would discuss internal campaign strategizing only on condition of anonymity, the McCain team used little more than a Google Internet search as part of a rushed effort to review Palin’s potential pitfalls. Just over a week ago, Palin was not on McCain’s short list of potential running mates, the Republican said.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am
Joyce,
So as not to give the “Obama Supporters are Sexist” theme any more blank ammunition, I think we’d have to say that Hillary took her drubbing like a ‘person’.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 6:11 am 6:11 am
I don’t know if she really believes Alaska should secede or not. There are probably not many people who do know. That’s just the problem. We just don’t know what she believes on national and international issues.
What is her position on the Israel/Palestinian conflict? Do we need more diplomacy in dealing with Iran, North Korea and Russia, or more sanctions? Should we be doing more to eradicate poppy fields in Afghanistan? What does she think of our free trade agreements? Do we need more regulation of the GSE’s (Government Sponsored Enterprises) like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac? How much more should we be doing to help home owners unfairly victimized by the SubPrime debacle?
I don’t know how long Sen. McCain vetted her but we voters are left with about 60 days to the election and we know almost nothing of her views on issues our president, and likely she just a heartbeat away, will have to deal with. Telling us to wait 30 days for a debate is not good enough.
She must put her personal and family problems aside and sit at televised interviews with professional reporters and answer serious questions sooner rather than later.
Posted by: JoeC | September 2, 2008, 6:15 am 6:15 am
Although Sarah Palin is republican and subscribes to seemingly strict conservative beliefs, she vetoed a bill from the Alaskan legislature which was crafted to deny state health care benefits to same sex couples. Apparently the State supreme court told the Palin administration that the bill was unconstitutional.
I was impressed that Governor Palin was willing to uphold the constitution of the State of Alaska in this issue as it was interpreted by the judicial branch, even though it conflicted with her personal and political party beliefs.
Posted by: Dark Goddess | September 2, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am
Joe C,
This is why McCain should have chosen someone who was validated the primary process. If Palin had run for office, we would know everything about her. Now, it’s this drip, drip, drip….. with a little more than 2 months before we have to make a decision.
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am
was impressed that Governor Palin was willing to uphold the constitution of the State of Alaska in this issue as it was interpreted by the judicial branch, even though it conflicted with her personal and political party beliefs.”
I give her credit for that veto.
Too bad most Republican commentators like Mic think such things lead to the extinction of the human race
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am
I’m tired of Palin. McCain had his chance for our votes. At first, after supporting Huckabee, we were ready to support McCain. I once admired John McCain. But, not after this. Who is John McCain, really. I trust Biden, so I’m done with McCain.
Posted by: Joyce | September 2, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am
I have to admit that I have such a lingering distaste from the Dan Quayle years (having viewed it as a form of political insurance), that Ms. Palin
unfortunately being from Idaho appears
to be another potatoe in the making.
Just out of curiosity, do any of her
supporters expect that they would put her at the top of the ticket in 4 or 8 years?
Really, I’m genuinely curious about this.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am
I make no bones about being a Democrat and a supporter of Obama/Biden.
Other people like to pretend they are disinterested parties even when they post unyielding defense of lies at an ungoldy hour.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 2, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
It might surprise some of you that Hawaii has had a secession movement going on for many years. No I am not accusing Obama of being a member of this just letting you know it is nothing new.
Many who speak of secession feel that the corruption of the two party system we have is intolerable they would like to see some common sense and actual work done by our government that truly benefits the people not the half as- garbage we have been getting.
Obama’s message of change is this idea of the government working for you. His problem is he is the same old Democratic Party person in new cloths to distract you. What you see is not what you will get.
McCain and Palin are Change, clean the system up and make it work for the people the way it was designed to do. End the ear mark spending. True Campaign finance reform (not a bill gutted by congress as the last one was).
Your problem is that you equate succession with leaving the Union which is what Hawaii has tried to do in the past because the people of that state feel that the Federal Government does not see them or work for their interest.
Change that Obama speaks of is another way of saying succession: a series of persons or things that follow one after another, to produce a change.
No one is speaking of leaving the Union only of changing the system to work in the peoples best interest.
Obama and Biden = one way of succession = Change
McCain and Palin = one way of succession = Change
Changing the way Washington works is succeeding from the Washington as usual. You as the voter have to determine which way you want the country to go.
For me Obama is Washington as usual.
McCain is the real change.
See you in November.
Posted by: Jace | September 2, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am
Like partisan politics, its not ungodly if we’re here.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am
Jace I think succeed and secede are actually two different words. And if you chose to describe Mr. McCain in his current guise as ‘fresh’ I’d like to know how you came to measure things in Geologic Time.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am
If you have a show called ‘The Strategy Room” do you still think of it as news?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am
Don’t worry – William Riker will come to the rescue !
Posted by: Kim | September 2, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am
William T. Riker or
William Harrison Riker?
I hope you meant the former.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am
McCain wants to entrust America to a radical that wants Alaska to be its own country???
Country first – Alaska
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” Co-Founder of AIP
Posted by: lt | September 2, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am
You Sir are a visionary.
Just think about how we’ll be able
to slash the federal budget and
put States Rights first at the same
time!
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am
This is serious business–if it is ever proven that Palin herself agrees with the secession plank in this party’s platform (unlike Hickel, who never agreed with it), she is constitutionally ineligible to serve as governor.
The state constitution is very explicit on this–Palin, like all other state officials, must swear an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Alaska.” AIP diehards cannot honestly take that oath.
Posted by: Darrell | September 2, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Obama just recently left a church that preaches Black Liberation Theology.
And he only left because it hurt his campaign.
But many Americans don’t know this because Obama has been protected by the media.
Posted by: cindy in nc | September 2, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am
Consider: While American men and women were fighting in Iraq to protect Americans on American soil, Ms. Palin was advocating the separation of Alaska from America. At the very least, doesn’t that make her a traitor of trust to the Alaskans that served? Because we are essentially at war… does that make her a traitor to America?
Posted by: Elephonkey | September 2, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
It’s so funny to watch all the media in the tank for Obama trash Sarah Palin.
They are truly shaking in their boots.
Obama didn’t get a bounce from Biden or his Temple speech, the GOP is energized and raising money.
And they know Palin is something Obama never could be–one of the guys.
You know those clinging to their guns guys.
Posted by: riley | September 2, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
cindy in nc,
do you really know what Black Liberation Theology is?
Posted by: Lou | September 2, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
riley,
The media isn’t “trashing” Palin.
And don’t blame the media for something Palin herself is solely responsible for.
It was Sarah Palin who made the decision to accept McCain’s offer, thus putting her entire family in the spotlight.
If she didn’t expect this type of scrutiny, then she is quite naive.
Posted by: Lou | September 2, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Truly an embarrassment. I’m from Arizona, is there any way we can fire McCain????
Posted by: Tina | September 2, 2008, 9:19 am 9:19 am
Going after Sarah Palins daughter could be construed as ‘trashing’ depending upon whether or not you attach social policy and legal positions, etc. to the situation.
I say, why bother – this thread raises a legitimate question. There is no need to go into the dirt with such a large stationary target available for serious discourse.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am
So sad. The Palin Family drama amd gustav dominated the weekend. One, an act of God, the other, acts of man.
Those living in glass houses should not throw stones. All the lies perptrated on Obama, who loves his country as much or more than many I’ve read here, has withstood lies, slanders, attacks on his friends and family, and is still going. Palin has had only a few days, and you all are whining about the attention. Can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Posted by: NanScott | September 2, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Palin wrote a letter to the editor of her local paper when Buchanan visited town and said quite clearly that she was a Steve Forbes supporter but as mayor she was welcoming Buchanan to town.
Posted by: PeaPeachch | September 2, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am
She’s a traitor. This is treason, and the proof is on video. McCain needs to dump her from the ticket or he’s not getting my vote.
Posted by: Semper Fi | September 2, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Buchanan?
Obamas Birth Certificate?
Does anyone read the tread titles anymore?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
For the vestiges of the Cold War, the Alaskan Independence Party is not a fringe group. The Alaskan Independence Party is one of the Principal Political Parties in Alaska. If Sarah Palin is guilty of betrayal, she betrayed the ideals of Alaskan Independence from the USA.
Posted by: Roberto Carlos Alvarez Galloso | September 2, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Who cares?
This is a no-brainer pick. In so much as it seems McCain used no brains to make it.
Sarah Palin was a bad pick but more importantly he failed to do a thorough background check.
Buyer beware..remorse be damned.
Posted by: Dan'l | September 2, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Roberto,
Are you making an argument For or Against
her having one foot in the White House?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Drip, Drip, Drip
McCain wanted Ridge or Lieberman for VP but the rightwing of the party said NO and said there would be a fight. SOooo, the Maverick CAVES! What about that controversy? Oh right, doesn’t involve a Clinton. So its not a “story”.
Posted by: Pogyak | September 2, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Can you imagine if Obama had been
part of a group wanting to succeed from
the United States? The Wingnuts would be losing there collective minds and the press would be covering it in Wall-to-Wall coverage.
Posted by: Pogyak | September 2, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
It’s not a fringe party. They got a man elected governor in 1990.
Posted by: Matt | September 2, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
If Palin did NOT want Alaska to be part of America, how can she represent us.
Posted by: Sassy | September 2, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
I was wondering why when asked if she wanted to be VP she belittled the job and said she wanted to make sure it would be good for Alaskans (and did not mention Americans)
Posted by: Enlightened | September 2, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Can we revisit the judgement issue here for just a minute…We’re looking at giving the world a crack at a former beauty queen, seditionist who’s got a pregnant teenage daughter and a severely handicapped child at home in need of care while she trots around the country trying to help a geriatric nut case get elected president. Meanwhile, her drunk of a husband races snowmobiles when he’s not knocking he up. Is this really the image of America we need to be promoting to the world? Is this the kind of judgment we need in our leadership? If this wasn’t so sad, it might actually be good for a laugh.
Posted by: Beverly C | September 2, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
This woman seems like an absolute nut. McCain has shown very poor judgment with this VP pick.
Posted by: Salvatore | September 2, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
Lets just say, for the moment, that she’s not a nut.
1. As Gov. of Alaska what experience or interest does she have in urban issues? or in agricultural issues for that matter? Okay, lets give her a head start on Fishing Policy for the latter.
2. As Commander in Chief of the Alaskan National Guard, what geopolitical decisions were she required to confront in the course of those duties? What operational decisions?
3. If in fact she really has a primary allegiance to the State of Alaska, what is there to convince me that she really would apply herself any more than GWB in
gaining knowledge and experience in these areas?
For all you might be able to say about Obamas experience, he has a more substantive track record when it comes to pursuing the ‘Big Picture’. Isn’t
that really the main focus of the job she is applying for?
Okay, now lets go back to thinking of her as a nut job as well…
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
I am no longer surprised at how low the communist (Daily Kos, MSNBC, NYT.. etc)left will go to destroy somebody they disagree with…. to involve Gov Palin’s daughter in terrible lies and half-truths is the nadir of journalism.
That being said … being a republican, I am filled wih glee reading blogs, messageboards etc from the left trying to rip Palin apart… It is a certain sign of truth that liberals are filled with panic at McCain’s VP pick otherwise they would be praising her as the right person for the job.. LOL
One last thing is one must translate liberal-speak when reading their mean-spirited trash… when they say yes, they mean no, if they say they like something you can know they mean they hate it and lastly when they say evil to them that is good….
when you apply those rules liberal blogs suddenly make a lot of sense!
God Bless America & Gov Palin!!
Posted by: Eagleeyeflyer | September 2, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
It is really hard to figure what is going on with the McCain campaign. If she was a member of the Independence Party that does not mean she favored the platform that advocated secession from the Union. Even so, it is certainly not a mainstream kind of thought process. I really don’t know what to make of all this. I agree with those who say she was not well vetted, maybe McCain is just giving in to pressures from the Conservative wing of the party.
I don’t know for sure what this does to the election. It certainly has everyone talking. It will be interesting to see where the polls are in week or so. I think it is too early right now to figure the fall out.
Posted by: Lowell Copeland | September 2, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Oh Eagle, you paint with such a broad brush.
I guess I should just be grateful that you are here to save me from myself.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
“One last thing is one must translate liberal-speak when reading their mean-spirited trash… when they say yes, they mean no, if they say they like something you can know they mean they hate it and lastly when they say evil to them that is good….
when you apply those rules liberal blogs suddenly make a lot of sense!
God Bless America & Gov Palin!!
Posted by: Eagleeyeflyer | Sep 2, 2008 10:31:28 AM”
Liberal blogs have never questioned Obama’s citizenship, his faith, or his patriotism. All those lies and smears came from the rabid right wing nutjobs.
And the truth is always the opposite of what a republican tells you. Drill here drill now…results in 20 years, when true energy independence requires the same single determination for alternative enegy development.
Posted by: NanScott | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
She isn’t too bright. She
was asked in a recent tv
interview what are the
duties of the Vice President.
She could not answer.
You can google and find out
in a few minutes what the
Veep does.
Mr. Mediocrity McCain picks
Ms. Mediocrity.
Posted by: anon | September 2, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
You know, it was not too long ago that Senators were laughed at if they decided to run for President or Vice President. A Governor was first choice and a mayor was second choice. Why? Because a senator could be in office for 100 years and never garner any experience that would prepare them for the White House. Presidents needed executive and management experience that can not be found in Senators, but only in governors or mayors. All of these facts about experience about the different positions remain true, but the ideology has changed towards be more accepting of senators even though their experience is still lacking. Therefore, Senator Palin, is the only one with executive or managerial experience. I also see that people are demeaning her because she comes from Alaska. Working as mayor in a small town means she had to work more closely among people than senators, it also means that she was held more accountable for her actions. As a governor she has managed one of the largest state budgets in the country of over 6 billion dollars. Again nobody else running has that experience and one of the jobs in the white house is to submit a budget.
In addition the biggest concern for the American people is on energy. Palin has actually voted into law policies that will help both the people of Alaska and the United States of America get the energy they need.
All these struggles within her family are private. But since the public has decided to make it their business: Palin has shown herself to be more in touch with the average american than any of the other three candidates. Teen pregnancy is on the rise.
The evangelical BS that you people are dragging up also shows how out of touch your are with the average american you are. 80% of the population believes themselves to be religious.
Posted by: Feminism | September 2, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
You are certainly welcome Mr Leonard!
Anytime I can help a liberal out from underneath the veneer of hate & rage that fuels them it is like doing God’s work…
Again sir glad to help out!!
Posted by: Eagleeyeflyer | September 2, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Between an Alaskan-First for someone in Alaska and a member of God-D…-America Church for 20 years until 2 months ago, is it, well, hard to decide?
Posted by: d0 | September 2, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
thanks nanscott for confirming that my liberal-speak translator works perfectly.. LOL
It is waaay too easy… almost always liberal’s own words sink them.. it is like they are their own worst enemy…
childsplay at best…
Posted by: eagleeyeflyer | September 2, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
How did McCain’s organization come to this choice? I mean the VP is the President of the Senate. The senate his serves in, along side some seriously qualified women, whom I am sure would be better qualified such as Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine, or Kay Baliey Hutchinson of Texas. I think this was a not-so-well planned move to appeal to Hillary Clinton supporters rather than to better this nation.
I am begining to think Mitt Romney would have been a better choice.
Posted by: Jodie | September 2, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
conservative – simple minded and driven by fear.
McCain just went from real dumb to real loopy in one swift VP pick … kudos!
Posted by: dubs | September 2, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
I really think that Palin needs to be vetted better. Actually, McCain should have done it himself.
The latest reports indicate that McCain is FINALLY sendind his lawyers to Alaska to sort through Palin’s history up there!?!
You know what would be a real Maverick move? To elect someone who knows how to think things through. We haven’t had that in the White House for years.
Posted by: blip | September 2, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
May I remind everyone that we have yet to hear the dirt on Ayers (personal friend of Obama and former terrorist of Weather Underground) because the University of Chicago has refused to release his records and that Troopergate is a red herring if you’ve bothered to research the name Andrew Halcro (Wikipedia being a good start).
Obama hasn’t been properly vetted either much like former president Clinton (aka Geraldine Flowers, etal.)
Posted by: Don | September 2, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Good thing she was associated with a “party” that questions the legality of the Fed overriding articles of the Constituion. She probably knows more about State’s rights than most governors, who seem to be selling out the States rights left and right these days. So what happens when the Fed sells out to the UN? We all fall under UN laws and regulations. Thats not American. Think it wont happen, I challenge you to look at where this country is headed!
Posted by: J McLaren | September 2, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
This is the story that will end it. They want to leave the US. Talk about hypocritical. Who loves America now?
Stupid. Beyond Stupid.
This aspect will go viral. Big time!
Posted by: Trent Dillard | September 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
This is the story that will end it. They want to leave the US. Talk about hypocritical. Who loves America now?
Stupid. Beyond Stupid.
This aspect will go viral. Big time!
Posted by: Trent Dillard | September 2, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
If Ronald Reagan’s parents had the same attitude as you we’d all be living in the United States of the NRA right now. LOL. Get a clue. Palin is a feminist AND a gun rights activist. At least 80% of *real* Americans agree with me.
Posted by: RealPatriot | September 2, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
I would not agree with many of Ms. Palin’s positions on issues. Secession however, may be one of her best ideas. I think we should all be thinking about that. Secede and then try and put this federal government back together again in a way that serves the people and not big business/corporate interests.
Posted by: kc | September 2, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
This explains the GOP talking point about how she’s a “maverick” since she is always bucking with her own party.
As it turns out, she isn’t even a republican. Who knew?
Apparently not John McCain.
Posted by: ChrisNBama | September 2, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
This memebership is the most disturbing issue with Palin so far. The integrity of the 50 states is bedrock to me. I want it to be to any president or vice president. If she believes this way it is a huge problem, but if she was just pandering to them I’m annoyed as well.
Posted by: atd | September 2, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Picking Palin was a masterstroke on McCain’s part. All this attention on her and her checkered past will eventually lead him to drop her and choose Mitt Romney as his running mate. That will happen so late in the process that no one will have time to properly examine Romney before the election. VP Romney has been the plan all along because he is the robot the Republican Party created to carry them into the future. It sounds nutty, I agree, but this is the truth.
Posted by: RobertG | September 2, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
I think the right (or at least the Neos) have clearly been a bit uncomfortable with the whole Constitution thing for some time now. She doesn’t seem so radical in her thinking from that perspective.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
I just cannot believe McCain’s pick, especially in light that it’s obvious she was not vetted, AT ALL!
I don’t care what the McCain campaign is saying regarding they vetted her – it’s terribly obvious they didn’t, else they really need to fire whomever claims they did the vetting.
To try to say that Sarah Palin’s resume is strong enough to be President is so laughable. She doesn’t have the education nor the experience. For cripes sakes, PTA mom is now the qualifier? PTA mom for one year. Mayor of an itty bitty town that has no more people in it than my small neighborhood? A town that was managed by an administrator they had to bring in because she didn’t know how to do her job? It’s a miracle she got elected to the office of Governor. She’s barely been there long enough to learn that job. Trying to say she is CIC of the National Guard? So funny. Wonder what the Pentagon thinks of that.
The bridge to nowhere she said no thanks to – she kept the money, so what good did saying no thanks to, do for the rest of the citizens of the United States.
She hasn’t made very good decisions in her own offices when you really look at the facts.
This woman is a joke as a VP pick in the highest order.
Posted by: MargaretO | September 2, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
You mean to tell me that this woman was part of some fringe group 10 years ago that wanted to do something that she never acted on when she was Governor? How… awful?
Posted by: jose | September 2, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
The word fringe, even in quotation marks, is dubious if the AIP gets 38.8% of the vote.
That number makes Alaska’s state elections true three-party elections. Which is interesting, but it raises a question about how in-touch the esteemed governor is with the role of today’s federal government.
I would be happy if the republicans went back to their States’ Rights roots. If Palin is a true States’ Rights advocate, let’s hear what she has to say about the federal government’s plan to drill for oil off the coast of Florida against the will of Floridians. Let’s hear what she thinks of Federal raids on state-sanctioned marijuana farms in California. A true States’ Rights believer would find themselves well outside of party lines on those issues.
Which goes to show how far astray the Republicans have gone. They used to be a small-government party, but then Bush-Cheney enlarged the federal government more than anyone since the New Deal (that started with Reagan, I know). And the central government they’ve built failed: Washington borrowed money for a war (not a very fiscally conservative plan), failed to regulate government-insured loans, allowed poisoned food to pass inspections, watched as national infrastructure decayed, and the list goes on.
The choice of Palin shows how desperately the Republicans are groping for a sound platform for their party. I don’t think Palin can save them, and if they manage to somehow win this election our country will have to endure more aimless government.
Posted by: HogsInBudapest | September 2, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
All of her comments, including recent ones indicate that her principle loyalty is to AK. Personally, I don’t really care other than wondering how electing her to Veep is in any way in the interests of those of us who happen to live elsewhere in the country.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
We now know that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party.
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” – Joe Vogler, founder of the Alaskan Independence Party
Posted by: Lou | September 2, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
For this women to give a speach in front of a sign that says COUNTRY FIRST, and then find out what she REALLY thinks is sad. John McCain made a BIG mistake. He wanted to Joe but got a real radical instead. I don’t think he can handle her, or her VERY concervative wing. This is one thing our ocuntry doesn’t need right now.
Posted by: scaredtodeath | September 2, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Palin isn’t Dan Quayle…
…she’s Harriet Miers.
Thanks McCain! We couldn’t have gotten you to make a worse VP pick if we had done it for you!
Posted by: JSG | September 2, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
This woman Palin seems to be hiding so much that there are compound revelations
daily. She should have been honest during McCain’s introduction of her by acknowledging her teenaged pregnant daughter when she paraded the 4 mo old and the Army son. Now she is hiding her Alaska first beliefs. I’m no longer surprised at any of the omissions of this hypocritical chameleon.
Posted by: leigh | September 2, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
I feel a lot of sympathy for John McCain. Until he sold out to the religious right I was a bit of a fan. I know he had to do it in order to win as a Republican, but I fear he’ll shoot himself in the foot with this VP pick.
If this AIP story makes the MSM, TV and the rest, it’ll take the wind out of his convention. Now, a new story is breaking about Palin seeking and getting millions in earmarks for her tiny town on top of Troopergate.
I can’t help but to be saddened to see a American hero like McCain dragged through the mud for making a hasty political choice I truly believe he was pressured into.
He was in a catch 22 situation, chose a moderate VP and get voters like me and lose the right wing, chose Palin and gain the religious right and lose the rest.
He needs Palin to withdraw for “family reasons” ASAP, and rethink his pick.
Posted by: John Poulos | September 2, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
I think the right (or at least the Neos) have clearly been a bit uncomfortable with the whole Constitution thing for some time now. She doesn’t seem so radical in her thinking from that perspective.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Well. I guess McCain found her running mate on e Harmony.
Mike
Posted by: Mike | September 2, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I think the right (or at least the Neos) have clearly been a bit uncomfortable with the whole Constitution thing for some time now. She doesn’t seem so radical in her thinking from that perspective.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I have no intention of voting for McCain, but this is actually the coolest thing he’s done.
I frickin’ don’t care about her experience. In fact, for me, experience is a negative. As far as politicos go, ‘experience’ means experience at lying, fraud, corruption, greed.
Anyone who thinks she wasn’t properly vetted should google ‘Biden Plagiarism.’
Posted by: Joe S. | September 2, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
LOL, of course they do. McBush cant even remember what he says from one day to the next, how in the heck can we believe ANYTHING he says going as far back as the 90s! LOL, what a joke!
Joshy
Posted by: Josh Reilly | September 2, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
jose:
Whats good for the goose. You can’t trash Obama for being “associated” with a 70′s radical then defend Palin when her past comes up. You can’t trash Michelle Obama for being “un-patriotic” for saying she was finally proud of her country then let Palin off the hook for being a member of a groupd who doesn’t even want to be a part of the county. Typical Republican thought process. Thanks for showing your true colors.
Posted by: Cowboy22 | September 2, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
ALASKA FOR THE ALASKANS!!!
Um, at least the second group of Alaskans anyway, you know the White Settler Alaskans, not the Inuit,umm I mean Alaska is for them too but mainly for us, um, um, um…
Posted by: nadine | September 2, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Is McCain INSANE?
Posted by: Alberto Vidal | September 2, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Palin’s “youthful indiscretion” with the AIP in her 30′s carries on to today. Here is a video of her sending a goodwill message to the AIP in 2008.
I guess Palin’s idea of foreign policy is quitting the US and joining OPEC.
Posted by: Jim | September 2, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
So what?
Is that the best “dirt” you can dig up on her? I mean I know most in the main-stream media don’t like Republicans, but you are going to have to start making things up again if this is the kind of thing we are going to be talking about for the next couple of months. B-o-o-o-r-i-i-i-n-g!
Then again, in politics boring is good as related to character and integrity. If this is the worst you can find, you are wasting your time. Rather than attempt to make stories and scandals out of nothing, let’s get back to the issues, please. Thanks.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 2, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Alaska is an odd place. And to think people used to gripe that shady things went on on Arkansas when Bill was running. Or slamming Chicago for it’s politics. Give me a break. It’s crazy what goes on up there. It’s not like any other state. Not that that’s a bad thing ,but get real. He should have suspected such things to come out.
Posted by: dave | September 2, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
What a horrible parent! she can’t even raise her daughter properly how the heck can she be VP?
Posted by: Joe | September 2, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
I wonder how many of these attackers have children serving in Iraq. Yet, they question Sarah Palin’s patriotism and love of America.
Giving her son to the cause of America freedom makes her a poor choice for VP? Where does Obama find these idiots? Are they seriously attacking a mother of an American soldier for lack of love of America? Is that the way they feel about the mothers of the rest of our Armed Forces? Who are the cowards and traitors here?
Posted by: eddie | September 2, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Shouldn’t we be questioning Mrs. Palin’s patriotism?
Posted by: Carla | September 2, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Will Sarah’s first action as Vice President be to ask Russia’s recognition of Alaska as a independent country?
Posted by: GoingTooFar | September 2, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Eddie,
If you’ve paid any attention to the last news cycle, Mr. Obama agrees with you completely.
Welcome Aboard!
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 2, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
She hates America!
Posted by: Joe | September 2, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Palin’s voting records say she’s been a registered Republican since 1982. Had she “been a member” of AIP, there would surely be a record of her changing party. There isn’t. So I’d say the burden of proof is on those who say she was a member of the AIP to produce some paper trail of it.
Here’s Palin’s registration records:
Posted by: Galt | September 2, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Can you imagine the outrage from the right if it was disclosed that Obama had once belonged to a group that wanted to sever its ties with the U.S.?
Posted by: Mike | September 2, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Did anyone read this part of the article?
“Governor Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982,” Rogers says, providing some voter registration documentation showing her to be a Republican. “As you know, if she changed her registration, there would have been some record of it. There isn’t.”
It amazes me how everyone immediately believes what they hear. Where is the proof? Show me voter registration documentation that she was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party and then we’ll talk. And then show me proof that she “advocated” for Alaska to secede and then I’ll worry. In the mean time, I am not going to base my vote on the word of some secretary, without any proof. Be smart people. Don’t believe everything you hear. Do your homework! It is your duty as voters.
Posted by: Diana | September 2, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Sarah in the AIP was debunked?
No, it wasn’t. She was proven to be a member and even did a special video for their convention this year.
She’s all about Alaska first, book burning and no sex education for anyone.
She’s a kook.
Posted by: Sarah is Kooky | September 2, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Back in 1982, you *couldn’t* register as a member of the AIP when you registered to vote:
It didn’t become a legally qualified party until 1983. So, claiming that, “hey, she chose to register as a Republican back in ’82″ is a red herring. The AIP *Wasn’t A Listed Option*. The McCain campaign is deliberately being deceptive.
Posted by: Rei | September 2, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Obama has unleased his demons!!!!!!
This is the end when the horrible vileness of the MSM is witnessed as it is today.
This vile attack on Sarah Palin is demonic.
Did anyone vet Biden like this – no. He looked like he was drunk giving a speech in Scranton – did anyone jump on that – no. Biden has had serious medical problems – did anyone jump on that – no.
Obama has never released his medical records – did anyone jump on that – no.
Obama has never released his birth certificate – did anyone jump on that – no. Oh yeah, need we list Wright, Ayers, Auchi, Chicago corruption, Farrakan, – the answer is no no no no.
I want to know why is the media covering for Obama and Biden, and then release vile report after report about Palin/
Answer me Jake – did any reports on Obama lately or Biden???????????
Well, don’t worry – the GOP will unlease here anyday – no worries.
You just keep printing all of the memos that the Obama campaign is feeding you – great job.
Posted by: disgusted in Illinois | September 2, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
why did she send the aip a video to ‘keep up the good work’? why hasn’t she refuted claims of aip membership prior to now? they’ve called her one of their own for years … only a response now?
Posted by: mm | September 2, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
The 3 a.m. phone call…
“Mommy…”
“Sweetie!?”
“Mom, there’s something wrong. My belly is swollen and I feel sick ALL the time.”
“Oh my….. Honey, maybe it’s time we had a little talk. You’re 17 now, and there are some things, ah, that you need to know.”
“What do you mean Mom?”
“Well it’s about that funny feeling you get when you see a boy you like… kind of makes you tingle, you know, down there…”
“Mom???”
“The birds do it. The bees do it. It’s a little icky, but it’s the way that G-d plants his seeds…”
“Mom, I’m 17, not 9!!!”
“Yes honey, I know it’s a little soon to be having this conversation.”
“You mean I’M GOING TO STAY THIS WAY???????????????”
Posted by: RalphK | September 2, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Ummm, what the heck is this “Article 1, section 8, clause 17″ crap from their platform? that’s the section relating to Washington D.C….what a bunch of idiots, thinking that because there’s a clause saying that the seat of the federal government is something the federal government has jurisdiction over means that the federal government has no jurisdiction over anything else.
Posted by: Gregory | September 2, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
HEY IDIOTS. THIS PROVES NOTHING. HER REG RECORDS SHOW:
1990-R
1995-R
SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE AIP 1992-1994. FITS NICELY IN WITH THE TIMELINE HUH?
Posted by: mm | September 2, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Not a radical secessionist: Sarah Palin, registered Alaska Republican continuously since 1982
Another pathetic, disgusting smear attempt. What will it be tomorrow? Palin evil clone produced from long-frozen embryo salvaged from Eva Braun’s corpse? ******* Governors have a public relations role on behalf of their states. Sarah Palin has embraced…
Posted by: BeldarBlog | September 2, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Not a radical secessionist: Sarah Palin, registered Alaska Republican continuously since 1982
Another pathetic, disgusting smear attempt. What will it be tomorrow? Palin evil clone produced from long-frozen embryo salvaged from Eva Braun’s corpse? ******* Governors have a public relations role on behalf of their states. Sarah Palin has embraced…
Posted by: BeldarBlog | September 2, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
As her campaign slogan in 2006 for governor, Palin chose “Alaska First.”
Posted by: mm | September 2, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
How can their motto be “Country First” when the heartbeat away belongs to a nut fringe group that wants to SECEDE FROM THE UNITED STATES???
You can’t blame Obama that the neocon VP that Karl Rove hand picked is a certifiable fundamentalist lunatic and inexperienced small town mayor.
It appears that the vetting process is the same one that the neocons used when verifying the credibility of Chalabi when it came to WMD’s and Iraqi “nukes”.
This is getting hilarious! McCain should just concede now before he and the neocons destroy the republican party brand for the next 20 years.
If you’re a republican, vote for Bob Barr or Ron Paul. They won’t win but at least you’ll be able to sleep at night.
Posted by: Winston Smith | September 2, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
“HEY IDIOTS. THIS PROVES NOTHING. HER REG RECORDS SHOW:
1990-R
1995-R
SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE AIP 1992-1994. FITS NICELY IN WITH THE TIMELINE HUH?”
Hmm, You’re right. It is not possible for her to have been a member while registered as a Republican for political purposes. And you call us idiots. Amazing!
Posted by: Brad | September 2, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
I am fully confident that Palin will overcome all this MSM garbage and shoot back by her sheer brilliance.
Any republican knows how these dumb libs who disguise themselves as journalists or “historians” are.
Posted by: jencab | September 2, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
“Ummm, what the heck is this “Article 1, section 8, clause 17″ crap from their platform? that’s the section relating to Washington D.C….what a bunch of idiots, thinking that because there’s a clause saying that the seat of the federal government is something the federal government has jurisdiction over means that the federal government has no jurisdiction over anything else.”
In fact, the federal government only has jurisdiction over those things specifically enumerated in the Constitution. Everything else is the jurisdiction of the states or the people.
Posted by: Brad | September 2, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
all this proves is she never re-registered in 92/94 or they ommitted those years.
it does NOT change the fact that high level afi operatives have claimed her as their own for years without rebuke from palin til now, or that she adopts their ‘alaska first’ tagline and tells them publicly to ‘keep up the good work’.
Posted by: mm | September 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
You can go to FactCheck and search for “birth certificate.” They concluded:
“FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.”
Posted by: RalphK | September 2, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
it’s simple. If the IAP can produce legal papers where Palin signed up as a member for the AIP then she was a member.. If they can’t then she was not a “member”. I would not doubt that she wanted to keep in good with them to some degree..After all they do have a fairly large voting block in Alaska. Either way,, unless she has publicly supporting sedession from the Union, her replationship with the party in not much to talk about.. Except for the demwits,, which are worried to death with this VP pick.. AND THAT is the fun part to watch..hehehe..
Posted by: Troy | September 2, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
As a Democrat, I’m all for Alaskan succession. It’s 3 fewer Republican electoral votes.
Posted by: Laura | September 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Voter registration records prove nothing. You don’t have to declare a party until you vote in a primary. Everyone knows you can be a Democrat and declare yourself a Republican on primary day to vote in that party’s primary. Isn’t that what the conservative bloggers and right wing talk show hosts were urging Republicans to do in Democratic primaries? Besides, independent parties like AIP don’t usually have primary elections. And you don’t have to declare a party to vote for their candidates in general elections.
Posted by: Doogie | September 2, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
A quote from Palin her base will love about the real reason we went to war in Iraq. It’s God’s plan:
“Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God’s plan.”
and another on God’s gas pipeline:
“I think God’s will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that.”
Posted by: John Poulos | September 2, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Wow, the left is out to make up anything they can about Sarah Palin. Throw anything at her and hope it sticks. The problem is America is watching this garbage and is getting fed up. How many people posting this anti-Palin garbage here are the SAME ones that rioted and hurt people in St. Paul this weekend? I would guess a lot.
Posted by: kari | September 2, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I guess Palin is patriotic…. to ALASKA as an independent country! Way to go McCain, all those stuff that you accuse of Obama is coming back to hunt you.
Like Obama said last night on 360, he has more executive experience than Palin because he has been running his campaign with 2500 staff for nearly 2 years.
Palin on the other hand only had a handful of staff under her in Wasilla.
Palin is part of the AIP which wants Alaska to be a territory instead of a state so that they don’t have to pay federal taxes I assume. How patriotic to America can she be?
She was for the “Bridge to Nowhere” before she was against it. She ran a 527 for Ted Stevens. She is a mess politically, but, fortunately for the gop, she is a former beauty queen and a woman.
Let’s see how sheepish Hillary’s supporters are. Will Palin be their shepherd, now that Hillary has quit being a shepherd?
Will they care that she don’t want a woman to decide whether to keep their babies or not?
She wants the US to be like China. China have a one child policy and all female who is pregnant with a second child should go for an abortion.
McCain wants to have a fill the US with unwanted child policy where a pregnant woman regardless of their circumstance should not go for an abortion.
Obama wants to have a pro-choice policy where a pregnant woman can choose whether they want to go for an abortion or not.
Being a female who don’t think that my government should be telling me what to do with my body, I choose Obama as the next POTUS.
Posted by: Pal in comparison | September 2, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
This proves nothing. Only a few states have multiple political parties the way Alaska does. I covered one for years, New York. Many New Yorkers were enrolled Democrats, because they wanted to vote in Democratic primaries, which is where the action was, but they nevertheless attended meetings of one of the smaller parties (Working Families, Liberal, Green, the wacko New Alliance Party) and thus could fairly be called “members.”
Posted by: Michael Tomasky | September 2, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Her foreign policy credentials as Governor of Alaska are stellar! Why, her cautious rapprochment in international relations between the United States and Alaska, signaled by her newfound interest in U.S. politics, is quite refreshing, and, dare I say, BOLD. The U.S. is, after all, Alaska’s number 1 trading partner, and it is good that she recognizes her nation’s interest lies in closer, more intimate relations between Juneau and Washington, rather than those oil hungry Canucks.
Posted by: Another Luke | September 2, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Stepping onto the Whitehouse platform should give Americans something to look up to. The evidence of a lack of leadership in your own home is not an expample of someone ready to lead a country.
Posted by: Gina | September 2, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
This is actually good news! It shows Mrs. Palin may not be a shill, and stands for something outside of the failures known as the democrat and republican parties.
She also praised Ron Paul in the past, which is another good sign.
Wanting Alaska to be independent is not a radical or necessarily bad idea. Texas and other states have similar movements. These are people concerned about an overbearing federal government that has grown far beyond its intended scope by the framers of the Constitution.
Ever hear of the 10th Amendment?
This Alaska party is not “fringe”, and Sarah Palin’s possible involvement only makes her look better in a lot of concerned citizens’ eyes.
Posted by: Patriot For The Republic | September 2, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Yeah, and all those Rush Limbaugh fans who switched parties to vote for Hillary in Operation Chaos are Democrats just because that’s what the paperwork says. Riiiiight. The members of the AIP know how involved she was, and it will be interesting to see if there is any backlash in AK now that she is denying her support.
Plus, the AIP is forthright in this year’s convention video that *they advocate registering with other parties to get their agenda advanced*. Palin is doing that perfectly.
Posted by: Katrina | September 2, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Where is the traditional Republican Party? Palin reveals McCain’s reckless decision making process. Palin could be President in 5 months if something happens to 72 year old McCain. Reckless – plain and simple
Posted by: GGG | September 2, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
“Wow, the left is out to make up anything they can about Sarah Palin.”
This is not made up
Posted by: johnny | September 2, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
You guys are wrong on this one. Sarah Palin’s been a registered republican since 1982. Just. Dead. Wrong.
Posted by: Jeff | September 2, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Voter records prove nothing. Everything that McCain accused Obama of is coming back to haunt him. The adage is true…make your words sweet because you may have to eat them.
Posted by: largue | September 2, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
I’m voting for Mccain – I heard that if he wins he might choose Ronald McDonald as secretary of state.
Posted by: michael | September 2, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
McCain found someone who is a bigger maverick than he is!
Posted by: SO | September 2, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Shall we impeach Palin now or should we wait awhile?
Posted by: J.A.Fazio | September 2, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
The AIP flat-out says to infiltrate other parties to get the agenda advanced. Palin did exactly that!
Posted by: Katrina | September 2, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
If she doesn’t support this secessionist group why is she giving video addresses to them and praising their efforts?
Everything she has said has indicated her strong support for Alaska over the interests of the nation as a whole. Her registration as a republican does not mean she isn’t in full agreement with this group and their platform.
Posted by: Don Thomas | September 2, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
I’m a registered republican because I was voting against Bush in the primaries in 2000 and 2004. I’m not a republican though.
Registration is a bunch of BS.
Posted by: RegisteredRepublican | September 2, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
This afternoon, the director of Division of Elections in Alaska, Gail Fenumiai, told TPMmuckraker that Todd Palin registered in October 1995 to the Alaska Independence Party, a radical group that advocates for Alaskan secession from the United States.
hahahahaha
Posted by: mm | September 2, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
the Alaskan Election office has confirmed Palin’s husband was a member until 2002 and then he registered undeclared (not republican).
Posted by: bernadette | September 2, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I agree that a registration will go a long way to prove whether or not Palin was a member of the AIP.
However, paperwork can be lost or destroyed over time so I will be willing to accept a public denial from Mrs. Palin that she was never a member of AIP.
So far she has been silent about denying membership. If someone were accusing me of being a part of an organization that I wasn’t, I wouldn’t hesitate on calling them liars and defending myself.
Posted by: BigAce | September 2, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
LOL… I’m voting for Obama
Posted by: Bob | September 2, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
McCain’s motto should’ve been,
“Country Club First”
This Palin thing is so out of touch.
How many discrepencies has she uttered over the last three days?
Posted by: Mtobias | September 2, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
The McCain camp did not refute the charge. The charge was that she was a member from 1994 to 1996.
Unless I’m missing s/thing, they have not provided evidence of party affliliation for the years in question.
Posted by: wow | September 2, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Show me her signature on an AIP registration card…then speak!
Posted by: Waynel | September 2, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
IT DOESENT MATTER WHO YOU VOTE FOR,SOON WE WILL BE IN THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION THE PART OF EU.AND WE WILL NO LONGER BE VOTING FOR ANY PUPPETS…TO BAD THERE ARE SO MANY PUPPETS THAT CANT SEE!!!
Posted by: anti nau | September 2, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
McCain has disqualified himself to be President of the United States. What a boneheaded choice. Imagine if Obama had chosen Bernie Sanders for VP, and the analogy would hold. Bernie is the only Socialist in Congress.
Sarah Palin believes in teaching Creationism, forcing raped women to bear the rapist’s child, and banning books from the public library. She is not only far right wing, but she is a nasty, vendetta-bearing, high spending politician.
Posted by: Edward | September 2, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Her husband (the first dude) was a registered member of the AIP for over a decade…. VERIFIED
Posted by: ajm | September 2, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Sen. Barack Obama was a member of Trinity “God D America” United.
Posted by: Clintonites for McCain | September 2, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
The really interesting thing is why has not the media looked into Obama’s associations with Tony Rezko, the convicted felon who will do time for influence peddling, selling access to Illinois state business, and making millions doing it. He helped Obama buy his million + dollar house. Why did Obama involve this dirty guy in buying his house. And, did the funds come from the Iraqi billionaire who was involved in siphoning big bucks from the oil for food program meant to help poor Iraqis when Saddam was in power.
Why have the law firm records been lost from the law firm Obama worked at which did Rezko’s bidding. Obama says he only worked for Rezko’s stuff for 5 hours, but he has known Rezko since the early 90′s and the law firm was very small. Rezko was also a sum landlord.
Obama had a mysterious and meteoric rise in the notoriously crooked Illinois political democratic machine. He has run essentially unapposed in getting to the Ilinois legislature, and then the Senate for the US.
I am from Illinois. It is probably THE MOST corrupt state in the union.
It is my belief that Obama is a charlatan. His leftist background is deep, and the dirty aspects of his rise to power are of note. His past is being consistently hidden. Whereas Palin’s life is pretty much an open book.
She has an incredibly admirable record of integrity and fighting graft in Alaska, even going so far as to have her blue collar husband RESIGN from his job with British Petroleum when Palin became involved in negotiating the gas pipeline to the lower 48 US, a huge project for Alaska and the US. That is an incredible self sacrifice which is astounding for American politics.
For Obama, he is just a charlatan obsessed with rising to great political power. Palin is open, completely transparent. Obama is secretive, and has been in all aspects of his background, and this post just scratches the surface
Posted by: ANCHORCHECK | September 2, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
And don’t get me started on Alaska seceding from the Union. Why shouldn’t they secede? She’s right about that, and you can’t deny it.
Posted by: Jingo J. | September 2, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Palin and the AIP. While Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, says Sarah Palin did not register as a AIP member, Gail Fenumiai has said that Todd Palin was registered as AIP member.
Since it seems that her husband is a member of AIP then how was Palin vetted????
Posted by: Jim Dichter | September 2, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Tuesday afternoon: It is now being reported that Palin’s husband was in fact registered with the AIP until 2002, then switched to the Independent Party. Apparently he, too, wasn’t part of the thorough vetting process?
Posted by: Danna Coy | September 2, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
It’s so disgraceful that this woman wants to be on the national scene so badly that she would sacrafice her teenage daughter to all of this negativity. What ever happened to parents loving, supporting and protecting their kids. Well i hope that she wins the Vp because her daughter will never be able to live down all of the redicule that she is going to be exposed to. This is a cruel world and i dont believe that this young girl deserves all of this adverse publicity just because she made a teenage mistake.
Posted by: johnnylee | September 2, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Her records show she also voted for Steve Forbes in 2000 presidential election..I guess she doens’t vote republican all the time either..she didn’t vote for G.W.Bush in 2000..
Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Voter registration records show Sarah Palin registered in May 1982 as a member of the Republican Party and has not changed her affiliation.
Her husband registered as ” Alaskan ndependant party” in 1995 and 2000..
Her records show she also voted for Steve Forbes in 2000 presidential election..I guess she doens;t vote republican all the time either..she didn;t for G.W.Bush in 2000..
She is lifelong republican since 1982..her husband registred as independant in 1995 and 2000…
end of story..
Posted by: Paul | September 2, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
If she were a member of this party, I would think that would have to disqualify her to be in line for the presidency as obviously she has no love of her country.
Who are the Republicans going to dig up next for VP…Jefferson Davis? For Gods sake!
Posted by: Garret | September 2, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Country first. Yes, but which one? Alaska or U.S.A?
Posted by: Jude | September 2, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Why is the idea that government governs only with the consent of the governed such a radical notion? Why is letting the citizens of Alaska decide if they want to be ruled over by the enormous leviathan in D.C. such a blasphemous cause?
For those of you who think secession from an overbearing government is such a horrible idea, does this mean we are rightfully the United States of Britain?
When the government has done so much to crush individual liberties and increase its power, a “country first” mentality is the last thing we need. No government has the right to violate the inalienable rights of its individuals.
If I believed she supported allowing Alaskans to decide if they wanted to be ruled by the U.S. or not, I would gain much respect for her. Indeed, all states and/or regions should be given the choice. However, there is still no way I would ever vote for the warmongering authoritarian McCain.
Posted by: Tim | September 2, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
“Why is the idea that government governs only with the consent of the governed such a radical notion?”
It’s not. Not at all. Good luck to them. BUT…being associated with such a movement calls into question your qualifications to be Vice President of the nation you’re trying to secede from.
Posted by: JobberMike | September 2, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
I am SO voting for Obama. I always heard McCain has an ego, but this Palin this is ridiculous and weird. In high school McCain was called “McNasty.”
Posted by: Militarysupport5 | September 2, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
If Alaska succeeds then Palin will no longer be a US citizen…so that would mean she couldn’t be VP…works for me!
Posted by: TN | September 2, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
This ” babe ” as limbaugh refers to her as has more baggage then we know what to do with. with this country and world facing so many issues do we really need to sort through her endless list of problems. its been a week and her issues just dont end.
whats the record for fastest resignation?
Posted by: scott | September 2, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
one side note ….her husband was part of this group and she just stood by and didnt divorce him ? should she not have disassociated herself from this anti-american ?
i know im being sarcastic , but her lack of disassociation from this group is scary. the only quotes are from spokesperson from mccain camp .
i just wished mccain had another 10 minutes to really look into her soul.
this is an ambarassment at best …again the world watches and laughs.
Posted by: scott | September 2, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
Why aren’t the Dems and the press going after this nut-jobs Anti-American views?????
I feel that talk of secession is just one step above TREASON! we need to expose this woman’s views with the same vigor that the right wing press and the Republicans who dare to question Obama’s patriotism have done!!!
Lets see what looking into her “associations” reveals about her “true feelings about America” and her “character”; again just as the Fox news talking heads and other right wing press have done to Obama!
We also need to know more about her potential abuse of power. Do we really need 4 more years with a new VP that would continue to abuse power as the Bush Administration and Cheny have done for the last 8???
Posted by: Rob Capone | September 2, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Iam a registered independent white female . After reading this and some other revelations about Palin. Obama’s got my vote. Signed sealed and delivered. This Palin women is a fringe religious lunatic. I heard she tried to ban books in the library in Wasilla. Imagine the outcry in our schools. This was a reckless pick by McCain.
Posted by: Cassandra | September 2, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Palin dead on arrival . Her pick is a disgrace to women. She courted the Hillary vote and is now dissing her. She is no Hillary Clinton who is qualified. As a matter of fact. There are many Republican women who are more qualified to step in a commander and chief then her. This is a slap in the face for all women. McCain must think women are stupid.
Posted by: Cassandra | September 2, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Palin is irrelevant.
Some may believe that she will soften McCain, but once you become part of the machine, you have to either knuckle under and become an apparatchick of the War Party, or you must resign, resigning is highly unlikely in her case, as signing the devils bargain signifies a willingness to toe the party line.
What is amazing to me is the unconscious acceptance that secession is bad. You are the ones that will not acknowledge that government is force. If you were really democrats (small d) then a plebiscite with a majority vote in favor of self determination is perfectly valid. Isn’t that what Clinton ramrodded through in the case of Kosovo. Isn’t that what the South Ossetiaians did. Contrary to MSM propaganda.
Posted by: ErnieG | September 2, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
secession is not a crime …however when your running mate wraps himself around the flag as calls everyone unamerican its tough to swallow.she passed the one hour test ? banning books from libraries. this person has serious issues and i know the extreme right love her but the country wants to come to the middle….this will tear this country apart even more. her credibility takes a hit every time i look at the news.toooooooooooo much baggage.
Posted by: scott | September 3, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
just watched the rep convention …and now i get it . the rebublicans are in fantasy land. the REPUBLICANS had the white house , and both houses and ran a 9 trillion dollar deficit . he states that if we put dems in power they will run a deficit …is he kidding . he needs to stick to acting because he has clearly gone off script when politics are concerned. you cant bash the other side when your side made the mess. i cant tell which party is rep and which is dems ..did they switch roles when we were not looking?
Posted by: scott | September 3, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Woodrow Wilson(Democrat) signed the Jones Law(Philippine Autonomy Act of 1916) into law after congress passed it.
Herbert Hoover, a republican, tried to shut it down but got overridden by congress.
Philippine independance was later brought to fruition by Franklin Delano Roosevelt(Democrat) and approved by him.
So it’s ok for democrats to give away our territory when it’s warranted, but not republicans?
Alaskans are at least entitled to due process, per the founding fathers as outlined in the constitution, the same as the Philippines(seceded), Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands (territories), Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, and Virginia(commonwealths), everyone else who is currently a state.
You don’t get more American than due process and frankly any state has the same options and access to due process.
AIC is about discussion of this process. Who says Palin wanted to secede? Putting it to vote to settle the issue is perfectly American. Maybe she wants a commonwealth like Massachusetts instead of a state. Different AIC members have different ideas.
There’s nothing unpatriotic about wanting to figure out what the majority wants then passing a resolution. That’s how the United States was founded.
npd
Posted by: NPD | September 3, 2008, 1:58 am 1:58 am
this is for ANCHORCHECK
Palin is an open book…open book? Are you serious? If she’s so open why are we finding all this stuff out. It’s been five days and 100% of the information (outside her name and family introduction) has come from reporters on the ground. McCain has not given America any proof that this lady is who she says she is. They say she was a Mayor. I know a mayor of 127,000, who has four kids, works as a freelance writer and she admits she’s not qualified to be VP of the USA. Despite the fact that she has a law degree and is highly intelligent. Now, how is a woman who couldn’t get into an Ivy League college if she tried, qualified. Palin doesn’t have a law degree, so how does she even understand legal documents fully. It’s just a pipe dream. On top of that I know a Governor of at least 3 million people and he’s even said he’s not qualified to be VP. Explain to me how, Republicans can lower their standards so much and seriously offer this woman as a qualified VP? America wants change that makes sense, not just change for change sake!
Posted by: TruthHurts | September 3, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
Any pregnancy over the age of 35 is considered high risk. What was Palin thinking when she got pregnant at age 43? Now her fifth child has Downs Syndrome. Then 3 days after giving birth she returns to work! How responsible is this behavior? Very scary.
Posted by: Joan | September 3, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am
Dear anti-Palin members:
Please watch Sarah’s speech tonight if you want to see the woman who will be the next vice-president of the United States. Hillary will be watching along with all her supporters that are going to take all of those votes away from Mr. Obama. Enjoy the speech and enjoy your nightmares as you sleep tonight.
Phil
Posted by: Phil | September 3, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am
I think I’m going to move to Alaska and join the AIP. They sound great to me!!!
Posted by: Ron | September 3, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
Dear Members:
All you females that were disrespected by the community organizer-vote for the McCain-Palin ticket-you can do better..
Phil
Posted by: Phil | September 3, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
Palin?
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: vic Winkler | September 3, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Dear Ron:
The chickens…………….have come home to roost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!McCain-Palin all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Phil
Posted by: Phil | September 3, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
Dear vic:
Did you just wake up or something? Having nightmares already? Vote McCain-Palin……….You’ll sleep better!
Phil
Posted by: Phil | September 3, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am
McCain-Palin. Remember the names. Country first-Obama never!!!!!!!
Phil
Posted by: Phil | September 3, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, said “Todd Palin twice registered under the Alaskan Independence Party — in 1995 and 2000.”
Todd Palin, Sarah’s husband of 20 years, should be scrutinized just like Michelle Obama was, right?
Posted by: max | September 3, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
You-tube video shows Sarah Palin giving the address at the 2008 Alaskan Independence Party.
- you-tube search: “Palin addresses Alaska Independence Party”
You-tube video of 2008 Alaskan Independence Party Leader thumbing DOWN the United States, literally …The AIP Leader showed complete disdane for the United States.
– you-tube search: “McCain Alaska First Problem”
Okay, then here’s another video of Palin admitting she has NO IDEA what the job description of the VP even is.
– you-tube search: “Palin what is it exactly that the VP does everyday”
Posted by: Max | September 3, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
For those of you in the beautiful south that believe in the God-given right of secession, join The League of the South.
FEDS OUT OF DIXIE!!!!
Ron
Posted by: Ron | September 3, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Obama fans, I will come home to roost.
Posted by: Chickens | September 3, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Why Sarah Palin? Simple.
McCain was so far behind in the polls, his warmongering mentors decided on the quiet to put together a little Sahaakashvilli skirmish in the Caucuses to boost his ratings. (They were actually itching to drop a few bunker busters on Iran, but they got cold feet)
McCain found out that a few hundred unfortunates had been slaughtered to rally his cause and he decided to poke a few fingers in the eyes of those who had orchestrated the dastardly deed behind his back.
So he chose the one person he knew would make even more of a nonsense of the Republican ticket than it already was.
And now, while the Republican party is trying to find all manner of excuses for one Palin scandal after another, George is hiding away in Washington and their present-day Vice-President is off in Georgia arranging a billion dollar thank you for Michael.
Posted by: Haik | September 3, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Funny how the stories always change after repubs hit the ground in Alaska.
Posted by: Pogyak | September 3, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Just because someone did not register for a political party does not mean they were not a “member”. It only means they were not a member accoring to the state’s registered party affiliates. Many people that call themselves democrats are not actually officially registered with the democratic party.
She obviously supports the AIP – she addressed their convention while governor; endorsed their importance to the state of Alaska
Posted by: Ken | September 3, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Might I suggest if you don’t think Sarah Palin is qualified to be the Vice President. DO NOT VOTE FOR HER!
Lack of qualifications is the reason I WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!
Posted by: Rainbow | September 3, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
You guys are running scared. It’s amazing to me that in the face of a strong, experienced candidate, you’ve resorted to scurrilous lies and sexist attacks. Do you really think that’s going to play with the electorate in 2008?
Instead of Hope and Change, you’ve given us Crash and Burn!
Posted by: Wendya | September 3, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Lieberman is a hypocrite. He had no problem with Obama’s experience when he needed help securing his senate seat did he? He crowed about how great Obama was then; but now that his really old buddy needs a boost and is desperate for help, he puts down the very man who helped him (liberman) out! What a two faced liar; He is a real ‘Judas’ where is James Carville when you need him? Palin is pathetic. Palin is doing more harm then good for McCain and now McCain with this obvious VP choice playing up to Clinton voters has made a HUGE mistake in judgement and it shows you that he is not maverick; just an old man grasping at straws. McCain shows that he quick to make decisions based on panic and not due diligence. Just like George Bush.
Posted by: nicky1228 | September 3, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Vote 3rd party. It’s the only logical choice, given these candidates.
Posted by: DP | September 3, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
another case of the ultra liberal press rushing to make history rather than reporting the news. What happened to editorial oversight? I have quit watching MSNBC, and CNN because of their biased reporting and have cancelled all newspaper subscriptions except the Christian Science Monitor who to this day keep the editorializing to the editorial page.
Posted by: jim | September 3, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
As an Independent voter I’ve been leaning toward voting for McCain, but I’m having second thoughts. I really don’t care that Palin’s daughter is pregnant, and her ex-brother-in-law sounds like a scumbag who deserves to be fired. Truthfully, it’s the library book-banning issue that concerns me most about Palin, and no, I don’t think she has enough experience to be president — neither does Obama. But what really bothers me is that McCain seems to have made this choice without considering the effect that all these revelations might have. Either he didn’t vet her properly, or he did vet her but failed to plan for the inevitable reactions. Neither shows great judgement. I’m still on the fence but leaning more toward Obama right now.
Posted by: Barbara | September 3, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
“Woodrow Wilson(Democrat) signed the Jones Law(Philippine Autonomy Act of 1916) into law after congress passed it.
Herbert Hoover, a republican, tried to shut it down but got overridden by congress.
Philippine independance was later brought to fruition by Franklin Delano Roosevelt(Democrat) and approved by him.
So it’s ok for democrats to give away our territory when it’s warranted, but not republicans?”
Actually, we liberated the Philipines from Spain during the Spanish American War with the promise of assisting them in becoming an independent nation, rather than a colony of Spain. The above President was simply keeping the Promise America made to these people, not giving away territory. My try opening a history book before making assinine partisan claims.
Posted by: sda | September 3, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
You go Sarah!!!
Posted by: jerry craven | September 3, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Ooooh, big deal MAx. So, she may have addresses the Alaska independence party, so what? As Governor you address many groups you might not otehrwise care to associate with. She isn’t just governor of Repubs but ALL Alaskans so if they invite her she will go there. she wants to kow what their views are and is repectful of all sides. You are making a mountain out of a molehill as is the media. NONE of the Governors who have become Presidents had foreign experience either. Remember, that was the charge given to Clinton too and GW! I’ll take her experience any day over Barack’s community organising. He hasn’t balanced a budget, or governed anything–neither has BIden or even McCain for that matter.
I love it. The libs are shaking in their boots adn are so mad that jsut maybe, like with Kerry, they will AGAIN lose when they were sure they’d win. Love it, love it.
Posted by: Megan | September 3, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
She actively supports a secessionist party. Her husband was a registered member for 7 years. He sits in with her on high level meetings. The AIP held their convention in her own town when she was mayor. She frequently speaks of Alaskan self-sufficiency. She has attended their conventions and praised them directly in a video made this year. Don’t tell me a governor has an obligation to praise a KKK convention. She made a choice to enthusiastically embrace this separatist group because she agrees with their aims.
Posted by: George | September 4, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Does one even have the option to register as AIP in Alaska? In many states, third parties are not on the registration cards unless they have ballot access. Citizens can then only choose between two parties. Were this the case, it’s entirely possible for Palin to be registered as a Republican and also be a member of AIP (or in the least active in it); unless it is prohibited by the constitution of the AIP for members to be registered as a Republican.
Posted by: Ballot Access | September 4, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am
The George Clark video disappeared “due to a 3rd party copyright claim.” They’re trying to scrub the evidence.
Posted by: KC | September 4, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Cheney in Georgia with $1billion, I think Putin might be correct afterall. “lets bomb your country so that our presidential candidate will get a boost and we’ll give you $1billion for reconstruction” its sounds to me. What a deal! at the expense of human lives in georgia. Putin is former KGB He will give you intelligence report if you care.
As for makin Palin VP, This is how it sounds: “Forget the country, we will shout a make believe ‘country first’ when the whole world is watching but now Lets introduce the gender card so that we can win over Clinton supporters and we’ll win the election. forget vetting for now I want a woman real bad. This election is do or die”
This election reminds me something about Mugabe.
Posted by: guudboi | September 4, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am
If Palin is so quailified, why is she not at the top of the ticket as it would appear that based on GOP reasoning, she actually has more experience than McSame??
I also cannot believe that GOP surrogates claim she has foreign policy experience because Alaska sits across from Russia with the Berring Strait between the two!! Unbelieveable!! According to that logic, there are 48 Governors here in the contiguous portion of our country that also have foreign policy experience given Cananda to the north and Mexico to the South. How can anyone, even a Republican, buy into this garbage?
And it seems the only energy policy these “guys” can offer involves mostly drilling in our own country. Plus they blur the line between an energy policy and our national security, as if to say we will be safer by drilling in our own territory. Although I don’t completely disagree with the idea of more domestic drilling, at least the Obama/Biden ticket goes beyond the GOP ticket by adding the importance of supporting alternative, clean energy efforts to decrease our foreign dependency.
All I took from what I watched of the RNC Convention is the attempt to sell an idea or a thought instead of solutions to our tough issues. But of course, the GOP ticket has no imagination or creativity with regard to the issues, yet we heard from Obama last week a very clear plan for how he intends to address the things.
I can’t wait for the debates!!
Posted by: Marc I. | September 4, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
It should also be noted that Palin’s husband Todd served at the treasurer of her 1999 mayoral campaign, while he as an active member of the AKIP.
Posted by: Alan | September 4, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
It should also be noted that Palin’s husband Todd served as the treasurer of her 1999 mayoral campaign, while he was an active member of the AKIP.
Posted by: Alan | September 4, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Come on people. Like any good story there are 2 sides. Time will show which of side is “right”. Unless you personally know it to be true, nothing you hear or read is necessarily 100% true. It is always based on someones interpretation. Everyone is running off on both sides of what they know to be “true”. Give it time, 45 to 60 days from now you may have a totally different opinion on your candidate. I am a member of the republican party. Sarah Palin has definitely shaken things up. It is good to be passionate. Not a big fan of Obama, but I will still wait and see how it all works out and make my decision in voting box.
Posted by: southernguy | September 4, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Next week McCain will have a 4 point lead which will stretch until the election. Final vote: 54% McCain/Palin, 45% Obama, 1% Other. Watch.
Posted by: HawkTheSlayer | September 4, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
McCain’s campaign must realise how strong Obama’s campaign is… they are copying it note for note.
-Nominating Palin to be thier own Celebrity…
-Copying the ‘reform Washington’ mantra… (though how could you beleive it for the R’s?)
-Styling thier energy plan to sound just like Obama’s….
I could go on… it seems that since the (R) smear campaign against Obama has failed, they have decided to simply embody Obama’s campaign.
Man…. they must really love Obama in the Republican camp….
Posted by: Andrew | September 4, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Does anyone else realize that the Bush Administration’s decisions have led us to Depend on foreign oil instead of alternative forms of energy, and that by doing so we are essentially putting money into the very pockets that are funding terrorism.
Now Republicans are offering quick solutions in the form of anti-environmental drilling practices, which they have been pushing for, for years. How convenient for them. The democrats really need to learn a little about manipulation from the Republicans. They’re experts. Palin’s entry into this is a joke… but watch it get the conservative vote. This all making Fox News’ job far too easy.
Posted by: Tired of Republican Manipulation | September 4, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
It’s hard to know which McCain I’d be voting for: would it be Senator McCain, or Candidate McCain?
Likewise… it would be hard to know which Palin we would get. Would it be separatist Alaska-first-Alaska-always Palin, or opportunistic socialist Bridge-to-Nowhere Palin?
I suppose the fact that McCain wanted to choose Lieberman as his VP instead could be a slight consolation… but seriously, if McCain can’t even stand up to the Republican Party, how can he stand up to Al Qaeda?
Posted by: JSG | September 4, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
I lived in Alaska for 6 years in the 90′s. I was shocked by the attitudes of many Alaskan’s towards the rest of the US. They looked at people from other states with contempt. They talked about how they hated it when other people came to Alaska to visit or live. “Those people” were outsiders and invading their state. They wanted just to be left alone. I heard many, many people talk about wanting to secede from the union. They resented the US government for interfering in their business. They definitely felt they were Alaskans first. Across the board that was the general sentiment. I don’t know the Palins, but knowing how so many Alaskans felt, it definitely seems plausible to me.
Posted by: Amy | September 5, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am
Conspiracy Theory-A Lot like Hollywood
What happened to John McCain while in captivity for five years under Communist control? Shouldn’t we ask that question of the next President of the U.S.A.? Could it be possible that John McCain is a sleeper agent programmed by Communist? After all, half of all POW‘s have had some sort of mind control performed on them. John McCain did say “he found his way”, during captivity. Why is John McCain so close with Georgian Lobbyist? Georgian rulers are ex-KGB. John McCain was visited by KGB interrogators while in captivity. And the KGB has been known to experiment with Mind Control. Why pick such an odd VP choice? When did McCain decide to pick Palin as a VP? November 17, 2006 McCain creates an exploratory committee to run for 2008 President icy. The same Month (Nov. 15th) Palin announces her run for Governor. In the event McCain is elected President, Look for McCain suicide and a Palin Presidency. I know this sound a lot like Hollywood, but don’t the events of the last couple weeks sound a lot like a Hollywood story.
Posted by: Jack | September 5, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
sarah Palin want to have her cake and eat it too, any Deccnt law abiding person would not take direction fron that Criminal Carl Rove who Refuses to go Before The Congress of The United states of America.we Pay his Salary and He refuses to Talk to us. I hope there is no Pension, for him, and No law License in any of the States in the Union and any Laywer out there Should Notify Their Bar Associations where he is Licensed to Pactice Law so that his license maybe revoked,
Posted by: ga peach | September 5, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
The AIP is a legally recognized party in alaska. Why not Google their page and see their history. So much for Palin’s flag waving, Vogler hated the United States and there are recordings that have him saying that he hates the US flag and doesn’t want to be buried here. Jack Coghill and Wally Hickel ran as AIP in 1990. Check it out in the State archives. Hichel supports Palin in her campaign TV spots, lots of them.
Posted by: Robert Lee | September 5, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
At the end of the day, Palin may speak well, she may be a baracuda or a maverick, but lord forbid if something were to happen to McCain I’m sure a majority of American people would be literally freaking out with the thought that someone with so little background would be running the country. Let’s realistically look to that point in time and then come back to the present and realize that McCain did not make a good selection for the second most important job in the USA. He put into effect a short term strategy decision over what really is best for the country long term…which is a succession plan for himself should it be needed. It doesn’t take a scholar to figure out she is not the most qualified for this job. I am an Independent and voted for Clinton and then George W….guess what, I’m back to Obama because of this serious gross miscalculation on the judgement of the Republican party. I actually like McCain but can’t take this risk. Thanks but no thanks on the bridge to nowhere…that being the McCain/Palin ticket! If we wanted that bridge, we would have picked a different VP on the Republican ticket.
Posted by: Angie Z | September 5, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Seems like the Alaskan Independence Party, Todd Palin and Rev. Isaiaha Wright are all on the same page. And all Bible-belt fundamentalists. Indeed strange bedfellows.
Posted by: HistoryTechDoc | September 6, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Twenty-one years ago I was the mother of four children, the oldest who was sixteen and pregnant, the youngest age two with no special needs. I am an educated American, somewhat conservative and cannot understand where Sarah Palin stands. Anyone who has ever been a mother and puts her family first realizes that it is impossible to function in the political world with the cards she has been dealt. In my situation I was neither able to make rational decisions in my daily life nor was I able to remain focused for any length of time.
It will be virtually impossible for Sarah Palin to perform the job that she has agreed to take on in any productive manner.
Unfortunately she has chosen not to make her children a priority in her life and unfortunately has chosen to put her children on display for the American public to scrutinize and criticize. I feel for her children and the embarrassment she has caused them.
Forgive me for judging but Sarah Palin has no business running for Vice-President. She should know that our country needs someone who can step up and take over the job of leading our country in the event that something happens to our President. How on earth does she think she is capable?
Sarah Palin’s place is looking after her two children with very special and unique needs.
mmills
Posted by: Margaret Mills | September 7, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Addressing their convention is no big deal. She’s trying to gain their support for her legislative agenda and their votes in the next election. You will find any number of Republicans who have addressed Libertarian Party gatherings in the same way. The Democratic mayor of Houston addressed the Republican national convention in his city that year. Big deal.
Posted by: Tested | September 7, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
If you look at the AIP’s web site
you find the goal of the party is to succeed from the union.
That the party takes the position that members of the armed forces and dependents should not have the right to vote in Alaska (or that members of the armed forces/dependents should not have the same voting rights that other Americans have living in Alaska )
If you do more reading on the party you will find that:
The man who started the party hated America so much that he ask not to be buried in the United States.
That he talked about Alaska joining OPEC
Having lived in Alaska for 20 + years
I have run members of the AIP who like their leader hate America.
The differences between members of the AIP and other radically left or right wing groups is members of the other groups want to change America. Member of AIP don’t want to change America they want to leave.
As someone who loves my country I can’t understand why an American would join a group like AIP or why a person Like Ms Pain would have anything to do with these people.
At the very best it puts her judgment into question
Posted by: Parto | September 8, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
I need to clarify to my prior
post.
The AIP takes the position that members of the armed forces and dependents should not have had the same voting rights prior to statehood that their civilian counterparts had.
Posted by: parto | September 8, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
I once really liked McCain and would have been thrilled to support a ticket with a woman on it, but not this ticket and not McCain any longer.
Which is more troubling? Michelle Obama stating, (possibly just misstating) that she is proud of her country “for the first time” or First Dude having been a member of a fringe secessionist party for a decade and sitting in on high-level meetings with his spouse, the governor, and possible VP of the USA?
What I find equally upsetting is Palin’s hobby, especially after seeing a video of what this entails. It literally makes me feel sick. I’m not opposed to hunting, but this tactic is cruel.
Posted by: Crabby | September 8, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
It’s funny. So many who are obviously democrats who say Palin has to go. Why do they care? If she’s such a bad pick, shouldn’t they want her on the ticket? Wouldn’t it be easier to beat McCain if he has a train-wreck for a running mate? You people are disingenuous when you deny your fear of Palin, or when you characterize it as fear that she may someday be President. She has energized the base of the GOP, and everyone knows any political candidate must have the support of his/her base in order to win election. And for all of you so-called “lifetime Republicans” here who are now no longer going to vote for McCain… whatever. You’ve never voted Republican in your life. I’ll bet you got an email from George Soros that said you should go to all the online articles about Palin and post this tripe. Anyone who says they were going to vote McCain, but changed their mind after the Palin pick, is a liar. Period.
Posted by: Ben West | September 9, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
now why on earth would gov. palin want to acknowledge her alliegance with a party that had such radical ideals such as seceding from this great country?
because she doesn’t want the public to know. anyone who has been to alaska or lived there knows it is manned by outcasts and renegade types that do their own type of justice once you get outside of the larger urban areas…yeah, the urban areas do align with laws and things but hell, most of them carry guns to and from work anyways and that is the way the believe in settling disputes outside of city limits. she doesn’t want you to know who she really is and once the veil of secrecy is lifted you will see that not only would she like to ban books, take away my rights to choose but she will have big brother invading every crack you own…count on it bubbas…
freedom?
hell…bush/cheney has already started chipping away at our freedoms, palin?
hell, we will be earmarking alot more things for alaska IF mccain wins.
Posted by: hemnebob | September 10, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am
Palin’s political mentor (Hickel) is an AIP member (per Newsweek), Palin’s husband is/was an AIP member (now “undeclared”), AIP leader Lynnette Clark thought Palin was a member (until McCain denied it), AIP Vice Chairman Dexter Clark told Southern Secessionists in 07 that Palin was a member and they too should “infiltrate” the other parties, Palin attended several of AIP’s conventions and spoke live at 1 or more, and taped a speech to the 08 convention, talking of a “self-sufficient Alaska” (separate), and telling them to “Keep up the good work!” And is that the work of speaking against the US from Iran’s pulpit at the UN, or getting blown up in “a plastic explosives sale gone wrong” (all works of the AIP founder – Vogler -before the Palins attended AIP). His hateful words against America are on the AIP website (and Pravda). So, how can McCain claim Palin is not part of this group? I don’t get it?
Posted by: bradley | September 11, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Hi Jake,
Did you edit Clark’s comments after you posted this article?
In the Google cache of the article, and in every other re-telling of it, you quote Clark as saying
“But when she joined the party our platform was right under her nose.”
This now shows an ellipsis instead of “when she joined our party.” Did you not think that point was relevant (it’s the most relevant part of the article!). Or do you now not think the quote is true?
Posted by: Sam F | September 12, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Sarah Palin is the worst VP candidate, period. She basically serving the ultra-conservative agenda. Just because she is a women, she does not represent women’s rights at all. All she does is stand next to her man (McCain) and look pretty. God forbid the media should ask her a question on any of the important issues this country. Her answers are evasive and blames the media for intrusion. I hope America makes the right decision at the polls this time
Posted by: Ms. Pan | September 21, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
I couldn’t agree more with most of the public’s opinion about Sarah Palin. What a disgrace…!! It would seem that John McCain and the Republican party has no shame. This is the most unqualified person to enter the race….ever!
It’s so nauseating (and I am a woman who would love to see a woman in power), that I think of leaving the country if this “joke” of a candidate should become Vice President. This person’s background smells too high heaven. This new baby, the daughter pregnant….this family unit is so shrouded with mystery…..her water broke and she flew five hours back to Alaska to give birth!!!! I don’t think so!!! I still do not believe that this last baby is indeed Sarah Palin’s child…..there is soooo much more to that story. Having this woman as a VP would be one of the worst things that has happened to this country since George Bush!!
Posted by: JLee | September 23, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
As governor it is your responsibility to do what is best for your state. Amazing how no one realizes this simple fact.
Posted by: Chris | September 24, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I guess all the people commenting about her inexperience, think that Obama is experienced. Could one Obama supporter please tell me about his wealth of experience.
Posted by: rb | September 25, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
I don’t care to discuss her family, however, her politics are important to me. I believe she is and still supports the Alaska Indep. Party and this coupled with many other lies .i.e told them “thanks but no thanks” on the bridge, sold plane on e-bay, build a road to nowhere, build a sports complex on land the town did not own resulting in 150 mil to be given to the owner. She has no real knowledge of foreign concerns…as evidenced by her lame comments on Katie Couric and even on S. Hannity avid supported of Mc Cain, she did poorly and he covered it up. She scares me with her religious convictions and I think Mc Cain knew all of this and wanted the presidency so badly that he lied from the get go to convince the public she was the answer. He truly has lost his mind. He cares that little for American that he would knowlingly put someone like her on as V.P. when he had so many better choices. He does not PUT AMERICAN FIRST….ONLY MC CAIN.
Posted by: Pat Napolitano Marietta. Ga. | September 28, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Palin is great. She is providing the best comedy in this race. Her extemporaneous answers to questions remind me of Miss Teen South Carolina (“everywhere like such as”)
Posted by: Dave | September 28, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Let me understand this–that party wants to return Alaska to the control of its original citizens? OK! Native Americans get a whole state back!
Posted by: Sam | October 5, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Sarah should stop wasting time with the political attempt — her destiny is to be a talk show host.
Posted by: max moose | October 5, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
First if you read further in the AIP website it says their ULTIMATE GOAL is INDEPENDENCE! The reason for the reversion to Commonwealth Status or even Territory is the minor little technicality that the United States fought a Civil War that forever ends the right of a state to leave the Union!
Thus in their wild imaginations the only way is to first revert back to a Territory then wait a few years. As a territory they could then leave the Union!
I find it amazing that you would list that she attended their convention as a “courtesy” while Mayor! I imagine that her 2008 address to the Alaskan Independence Party was also a “mere courtesy”. What does this show about her VALUES? Even if she was not a formal member? Imagine if that were Obama?
What does her Video Address to the AIP show about her judgment? What does the fact that no news reporters have asked her questions about this show how the news media is really in fact intoxicated with her putrid “folksyness”!
Posted by: Brian J Dawson | October 5, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
you find the goal of the party is to succeed from the union.
thats secede from the union.
Posted by: sammi | October 5, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Jake: You need to do an update on this story especially since Palin likes to make accusations about others associations with terrorists. AIP has a dark shrouded mystery to it including the murder of one of its leaders.
I know I saw it on AE last year-I think it was Cold Case or City Confidential. Please dig deeper. I am also going to dig it up.
Posted by: sammi | October 5, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
In observing Palin’s body language closely when with McCain (and I am a well trained observer) I see that she does not like or care for McCain in the least. He is but a stepping stone for her. Her actions and reactions are rote and simply superficial acts. There is no connection whatsoever from Palin to McCain- he is simply an object to be used for her own advantage. Very, very dangerous to this country.
Posted by: S.C. | October 5, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
If the McCain/Palin campaign is really going to play dirty with Ayers and Wright, then I think the Obama folks need to pick this one up and run with it. An ad showing a clip of her video address interspersed with some of the the leader’s quotes would be appropriate. Right now the Obama campaign seems to be fighting back with the Keating 5 stuff, but it doesn’t pack the same emotional/psychological punch as the accusations that Palin et. al. are making. A juxtaposition of Palin’s close association (if not membership) with a group of successionist radicals plus a reminder of McCain’s participation in the S&L scandal might do it.
Posted by: Susan | October 6, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Obama is going to play this ace card a week or two before the election, while McCain will resort to outright made-up lies. Mark m words.
Posted by: AntMo | October 6, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Just proves she really CAN work across party lines.
This blogs also proves to me that “O” is scared to death of her on the ticket. Watch the polls in the next weeks. A surprise is coming and it may just be a early snowstorm but we shall see.
CHANGE YOU WON’T REGRET!!
Posted by: RootsLady | October 7, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am
Biden’s Son, Brother Named in Two Suits
….in part
“A son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show.”
….more
By Kimberly Kindy and Joe Stephens
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, August 24, 2008; Page A09
Now, are all you folks really wanting to rumble?
Aug 2008 vs 1994
Posted by: RootsLady | October 7, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
NOTICE: SARAH PALIN NEVER DENIES BEING A MEMBER OF SECESSIONIST AIP; AND NO ONE MENTIONS TODD PALIN, HER HUSBAND, WAS A MEMBER OF SECESSIONIST AIP — STILL LETTING OTHERS IN MCCAIN CAMPAIGN LIE FOR HER — GOTTA LOVE IT –AND BY THE WAY, NO ONE CAN ERASE HER VIDEOTAPE SUPPORT OF SECESSIONIST AIP THAT IS LISTED IN THE ARTICLE…..HHHMMMMMM.
Posted by: Benighse | October 7, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Poor Sarah. The GOP taught her nothing but talking points. Maybe you noticed during her debate how surprised she looked when Biden discussed McCain’s issues. She didn’t have enough info to even know if Biden was correct. Before she even walked on the convention stage the media was already programmed to be
her enemy, yet the GOP would not even let her engage. When they finally did let her talk to the media, it wasn’t a gentle push into right wing media to get her feet wet, – no, it was right on to Charlie Gibson and Kaitie Couric. That way the GOP could continue to complain abt how badly the media treats poor Sarah. Then, what do they do – well, listen to her now, spouting all her vitriol against Obama. You think this wasn’t planned by the Republicans? They didn’t pick a real woman capable of handling this job because a real candidate wouldn’t put up with this b.s. Did you see her with McCain during the Couric interview? He’s shushing her and talking over her like the old man he is. He treats her like his prize fight dog. She thinks she’s on the way to becoming a big deal V.P. and on the way to Pres in 2012, when in fact, she’ll be on her way to Alaska, the land she really loves, after they lose. In the event this R. strategy works…..well, gosh darn, I’ll betcha Granpa John will be darn glad she has so many kids ‘cuz that’ll keep her out of gov’t business where she clearly doesn’t belong.
Posted by: Jill | October 7, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
RB posted :
Barrack Obama and John McCain spend their working days as Senators researching, thinking about and voting on issues of national and international issues relevant to our country. Sarah Palin,based in her answers, evidently, has not. She may or may not be a good govenor for her state but she clearly is not ready for the presidency. That she thinks she is, is what truly scares me about her. She said in an interview in that she had no hesitation whatsoever in saying “yes” to John McCain’s asking her to be heart beat away from being president. I want someone in who thought long and hard about it. I want someone in office who is confident enough to take charge and scared enough of the potential consequences of his actions that he hires the best people as his advisors and considers all angles before making decisions. Whomever gets into office has a very tough task ahead. I don’t envy them.
Barrack Obama is the best of the two choices for president. He is smart, thoughtful, and looks into the future in terms of global warming as well as long term economic and foreign policy impacts. While he is not perfect, he has my vote.
And for the record, I am a woman. I would like to see someday a President and/or a Vice-President who happens to be a woman. But gender will not matter at all after the election, only policy.
Nor should “history” be a reason to put a woman into the V.P. slot. Extremely strong women have run very difficult countries, including Pakistan and Israel. We just have not yet had the right person to run who happens to be a woman. (Hillary was close but had made too many enemies to be electable).
Posted by: Sue White | October 7, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
but you see, we don’t have to prove sarah was an actual registered member of this group as the game is all about associations now. and what closer association can there be than the one she sleeps in bed with every night??? her husband was a card carrying member of the hate-america, extremist, alaska independence party.
it’s FAIR GAME NOW SARAH!
Posted by: birdy | October 7, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
I see that some of the kool-aid enthusiasts are still flogging that dead horse of Obama’s “lack of experience.” He has been in the Senate about twice as long as Palin has been governor and during that time he did a lot more actual governmental work than Palin did. Before that, while Palin was a mayor who needed a city manager to govern a town of 6,000 people, Obama was a state senator who represented many multiples of that number. Palin was a member of the PTA while Obama was in the streets showing people how to stand up for their rights and use the government for their own benefit rather than their detriment. McCain, despite all the time he has been a senator, still doesn’t know as much about the economy and domestic policy as Obama does,and there is ample evidence that he doesn’t know as much about foreign affairs as he thinks he does.
Posted by: Texas Aggie | October 7, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
I just pulled this answer from the FAQ section of the AIP website. Please NOTICE THE LAST SENTENCE.
Q: Would I lose my U.S. citizenship?
A: Depending on the form of independence, several forms of citizenship would be possible, including the retention of U.S. citizenship or dual citizenship. However, considering the moral, educational, and economic decay of the U.S., Alaskans’ who hold themselves to a higher standard might very well decide to at least maintain an arm’s length distance from a country in decline.
Posted by: JDDCP | October 9, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Sarah Palin is George Bush with lipstick. She lies, deceives, denies, blames, distorts. Attack your opponent with what you are guilty of. Typical Rovian tactic.
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t cast stones.
She was far too cozy with a group that hates America.
Posted by: SeattleSage | October 9, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Palin is pallying around with ALASKA SEPARATIST, Tod Palin. This person would be in heart beat away?
How risky can you get?
When McCain chose Palin to be his VP, he put the county LAST.
Posted by: dyt | October 11, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
HA!!! You say that their goal is INDEPENDENCE, huh? Yeah, right!!!!
You do that through referedums, not hatred for America garbage. Their founder stated that hell is cold as an ice berg compared to his hatred for the U.S. government.
Their current leader admits that Palin has an open door policy for him and that he has never been denied an opportunity to visit her office.
He also talks about her being their insider and helped to get her elected as mayor and governor.
Go to Salon.com if you want to know the facts.
Lastly, who are they to want to “reclaim the land from the U.S. government. If anything, why don’t we give it back the native people of Alaska and not those who invaded the land and displaced or killed the native people of that land?
Posted by: besharpone | October 12, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
If they want their independence I suppose that means they want to turn the land back over to the native people. Right??????
Posted by: Maureen | October 12, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I never before had reason to question any major candidate’s patriotism, even one whom I disagreed with, but of Governor Palin, I believe this is a legitimate issue.
She has spoken favorably of the goals of the secessionist Alaska Independence Party three times, most recently in 2008. Her husband was a member of the AIP for 7 years until very recently. This is a party whose founder said, “I am an Alaskan, not an American” and whose charter calls for separating from the United States. For a Governor to praise the goals of such a party should raise serious questions about her judgment and her ultimate loyalty to her country (America, not Alaska). Was she angling to be President of Alaska? Don’t laugh; the Confederate States of America met extensively in party format before ultimately seceding from the Union. In addition, we share no border with Alaska, “America’s only arctic state,” as Ms. Palin put it to ABC’s Charlie Gibson. Losing 1/5 of America’s land mass, and its single largest supplier of oil, should not be taken lightly; thousands of members of the Alaska Independence Party don’t.
As for racism, it might be helpful to know where she stands on the issue of whether she believes the world was created about 6,000 years ago, as described in the bible. Aside from being wildly scientific and irrational, such a belief also coincides with a belief that God created all the races in their present “pure” form, instead of all human beings having descended from a common racial ancestor, and then splitting off into the various races we see today. Many people who believe in the literal interpretation of the bible also do not believe the races should co-mingle, as Obama’s parents did, since it is, in their view, against God’s original design. This is directly relevant to Palin’s views on race relations.
Posted by: Scott Baker | October 12, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
These AIP crackpots have never heard of “Seward’s Folly” Aside from Manhattan’s purchase with beads, Alaska is actually the only territory that was bought and paid for by the U.S. Government. AIP has no legal claim to any of the lands of Alaska. And, If they don’t like it, they can pack their bags and leave.
Posted by: Elascu | October 12, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
McCain has basically lost control of the Republican Party. The Republican Party has become a stark raving mob under the McCain, Palin’s leadership. Now he is trying to conduct damage control and the mob is resisting his efforts. We are Americans. We need a leader that can stay on course with a steady hand. We need a leader who can motivate us in positive way. We need a leader to unite this nation, to solve our economic issues, and to lead us in a positive way. We definitely don’t need a Vice president that condones and tolerate a radical group that wants to withdraw the State of Alaska from the United States.
Senator McCain has fallen off the path of leadership and honor.
Posted by: mabinsm123 | October 13, 2008, 12:10 am 12:10 am
AIP sounds like a domestic terrorist organization. Wasn’t it Palin who was saying Obama hangs out with terrorists, I am thinking it is Palin who hangs out with them. So much for McCain’s judgment, he can’t even pick a good running mate.
Posted by: TroySoccerMom | October 14, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
are you all serious? am i the only person who sees this as a positive? that means she will care about states rights and a return to a true federal system, BTW the civil war did not answer the question of secession it changed the answer, the states always had the right to leave before that, look at the Virginia notice to the congress when it ratified the constitution.
Posted by: Colin M Lewis | October 15, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
I FIND IT INTERESTING WHEN PEOPLE DONT ANSWER THE QUESTION(S). WHEN ASKED IF PALIN WAS A MEMBER OF AIF THEY(THE MCCIN COMPAIGN) ANSWER THAT SHE IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN A REPUBLICAN…THATS LIKE SAYING YOU CANT BE A SHRINER AND A DEMOCRAT
AT THE SAME TIME… DOES IT HAVE TO BE EXCLUSIVE ONE FROM THE OTHER? JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION. AND THE NEWSIES…MAKE SURE THEY DO ANSWER THE QUESTION, OR MAKE IT KNOWN WHEN PEOPLE DONT FULLY ANSWER THE QUESTION ASKED.
Posted by: SR GODAR | October 15, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
I heard about this and I am sure great efforts have been made to cover this up by both parties involved. Her erratic behavior makes this very plausible. She might not be a great political speaker but she has her hands in some scary stuff here. Seriously, how the heck would Alaska defend itself on its own? It is teeming with resources. What is it going to do, join forces with Quebec succeeding from Canada?? She would be seeing Russia from her house alright… with a Soviet flag planted on her front yard. I don’t think she realizes how crazy this is and I hope to god she has dropped this idea. These fringe movements border line on treason like racist and other extremist groups do.
Posted by: Tom | October 16, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
This is amazing! CNN tried to explore the AIP/Palin connection but the story was deep-sixed and never made it onto their website.
She accuses Obama of “paling around with terrorists” but what about her — she’s the one who has been quite clearly “paling around with traitors.”
At the very least we have her video welcome for the opening of the Alaska Independence Party’s recent convention. That’s on U-Tube and was broadcast on CNN. That’s been since she was governor.
So is it traitorous to advocate that a state or group of states break away from the United States? I think so.
Palen and her unknown-quantity husband have definitely been paling around with traitors.
Posted by: Traitor Watch | October 17, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
The McCain campaign has tried to bamboozle the public by producing Palin’s Republican voter registration records and saying those prove she was never a member of the AIP. Actually, membership in a party is entirely different from being a registered voter in that party; and many small parties urge their members to vote and run for office as a member of a major party, as a strategy for getting their policies enacted. Palin has done nothing to disprove her membership in the party.
Posted by: Donna H. | October 18, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Crabby, you wrote that you were sickened by the video of Palin’s “hobby.” Well, it sickens me too, but did you also know that last June she ordered the deaths of a wolf pack and then she had her state biologists DRAG 15 wolf pups, a month old, out of their dens to held down and shot in the head. All of them! Against Alaska law which forbids killing nursing mothers and pups who are still in the den. Palin also is for the slaughter of the wild mustang. She hates all animals, even domestic ones like cats. She is dangerous and her affilation with that party that wants to secede from the United States is scary. She is not who she is trying to make America think she is. She is power hungry, and I hate to think of what she will try to do if she gets in to any office of real power. I am a Republican and I am not voting for McCain because of Palin!
Posted by: Lin | October 19, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
ALASKA FIRST! YOU PEOPLE JUST WANT OUR OIL! GO, GO, SARAH AND TODD!
Posted by: AIP hurray | October 22, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Did anyone actually read this article? I see people saying that she never denied belonging to the AIP when it blatantly says in there that they said “allegations are false.”
At least Palin has run a small business, a state and a national guard. She obviously ran the state well. You don’t get an 80% approval rating for being a bad governor. And I know about bad governors.. I live in NJ. What has Obama run? Oh, that’s right.. nothing. He just votes “present” on every controversial issue.
Posted by: Jeanne | October 22, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
I want to know if Palin considers the AIP to be the ‘real’ pro-america she keeps mentioning in her addresses.
Posted by: defactomode | October 22, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
I can’t believe the hatred and passion that one person has stirred up. People get a life. You are all so obsessed and consumed with hatred. I feel alot of it is also jelousy. If you all had any intelligence you would know the mainstream news who are looking for any credible bit of dirt on Sarah would be all over this story. The reason they are not is because there is no proof. Sarah is a good christian women who wants to help this country get back on track. Get over yourself.
Posted by: Teresa | October 24, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
If Obama wins, I think I’ll move to Alaska, join the AIP and fight to secede from the United Socialist States of America!!
Posted by: sally d | October 24, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
I don’t believe that Palin really wants Alaska to be an independent nation. I think that this election has electrified people on both sides of the ticket and that Obama and Palin are the driving forces behind it.
With the economy and path that we’re on we need Obama in office to unify the country and bring out the best in everyone. Although, I am glad that Palin is on the republican ticket cause America is better off having more people passionate about what they believe. We’re forced to throw everyone’s ideas, beliefs and actions into the melting pot and we’ll all be better off for it.
Vote Obama | Biden ’08
Posted by: Harv | October 24, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
McCain should have done his homework.
For those who would like to see what’s real, our politicians records are a matter of public record…how did they vote, did they show up for work, what panels did they serve on, what bills have they sponsored or co-sponsored. With all of this at our fingertips via the internet and everyone is still wondering who has done what… Look it up… READ… become truly informed and I am sure that all of you will make a wise, informed decision on Nov. 4.
Posted by: Babs | October 28, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
I was ready to vote for McCain til Palin was nominated as VP candidate. Maybe some Moms can relate to a woman with 5 kids and a pregnant 17 year old. I can’t . Prove that you can keep your own house in order before you try to run a state or country. What happen to good christian morals and keeping an eye on your kids.
Posted by: SW | November 1, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I was ready to vote for McCain til he nominated Palin, ( and I doubt he made that decision, it was forced on him). Maybe alot of Moms can relate to a family with a pregnant 17 year old. I can’t. Prove that you can run your house before you step into a posotion where you may end up running a country and legislate what other people should do. What happened to christian values and morals or is that only for the other guy.
Posted by: SW | November 1, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Hey, are we the only ones who noticed the energizer bunny at the door of the white house behind George Stephonopolis during his comments on world news tonight with Charlie Gibson. That was just too funny.
Posted by: Betty Carrigan | December 1, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
The sooner Palin realizes she was just a skirt added to the ticket, the sooner she can return to her igloo and stop nausiating us with her nasily voice.
Posted by: Santa | December 17, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Any talk of an independent Alaska or secession by the AIP is idiocy. Did anyone attending Alaska primary or secondary schools read about the American Civil War and why it was fought? The United States would NEVER let its largest state–a vital stragetic military area with untold natural resources–seceed, even it had to blast the state into oblivion. Pick up a copy of the book “April 1865″ and get informed. And, grow up AIP.
JT
Posted by: John Torsiello | February 12, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
You meddling Lower 48ers (most of whom have never even BEEN here, let alone LIVED here) need to mind your own affairs, and quit telling us what to do and not do, what to think and not think, etc.
If we choose to secede from the Union, we will.
It’s not a one-way door. You cannot voluntarily join the Union (which we did) — but then be forbidden from ever leaving again.
The biggest reason I’ve heard for the USA holding onto Alaska is that the rest of the nation merely wants our stuff. They want our resources, etc. Maybe it’s time to GET YOUR OWN.
And to you, JT…the last poster before me:
Listen, fella. My ancestors fought for the Union in the Civil War — with at least one of them serving under General Sherman, as he marched to the sea and cut Georgia in half.
Not only is there nothing ANYWHERE in ANY U.S. law that says a state cannot secede, but none other than George Washington himself openly ADVOCATED revolution, if the federal government ever became what it wasn’t supposed to! He said, and I quote, “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government. ”
Maybe YOU should study history, sir. Maybe the Civil War merely meant that MIGHT makes right, not actual law.
BTW, where were YOUR ancestors, during the Civil War? Doesn’t sound like they were on THESE shores.
Posted by: Bug Off | February 23, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Welcome to 2010 ….. PALIN now claims to be a TEA PARTY person ….. has she RENOUNCED her Republican REGISTRATION? No more than when she was a MEMBER OF THE AIP. Palin is a JUDAS GOAT leading the TEA PARTY to the slaughterhouse/Republicans. and she WAS in the AIP.
Posted by: Marvin | October 24, 2010, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Alaska should declare independence form the USA then Pallin can be its head of state. Or Alaska could become pat of Canada? But then Canada is the 51st state of the USAl.
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