Michigan Independents Cold to Alaska Governor*

If the Obama campaign and their allies in the MSM want to destroy Sarah Palin, they have their work cut out for them. This woman is as strong in her own way as John McCain. She will attract Democratic women like myself who are no longer comfortable with a party that so easily cast aside a woman who received 50% of the vote in the Primary. I am opposed to many of the positions that Sarah Palin holds. However, those positions pale in comparison to my determination to help shatter the highest glass ceiling. As a 72-year old woman who faced discrimation first-hand in the work place, I intend to support this female candidate for Vice President. When the Democratic Party begins to appreciate the women who make up more than half its membership, I may consider returning to the party of my parents and grandparents.

If these “independents” are satisfied with what has happened in Michigan, led by politicians who have ran the state into the ground ,then so be it.

I watched her last night. She read a good speech. Which, by the way, was written by Bush’s speech writers. It’s just more of the same wrapped in a different package. The audience was really excited. After all the hoopla is over, then she’s gonna have to provide some answers on her positions and what will she do to fix the economy, healthcare, jobs, energy, gas prices and the like. She came off to me as a comic with a bunch of one liners…kinda like Jay Leno…

And there is jealousy among many women because they didn’t do anything with their life and she accomplished her goals. Her speech was a hit and it will wake up the democrats to think. They thought she was a pushover. No, she is not Hillary who let Obama dominate her over the delegates along with Nancy Pelosi. This woman would give Pelosi and Obama a run for their money and she is no fool. I switched this year from democrat to republican because I don’t like Obama. McCain and Palin are true American’s from the time they were born. We won’t talk about Obama’s love for this country it would take too long.

I like these African American independent voters. They certainly do not follow party lines and take country first.

Me too I am undecided but not really convinced .. I will vote for the third party

Does Sarah Palin know that the USA is fighting a crucial war in Afghanistan?
Apparently not. She never mentioned it.
Do Giuliani, Romney and Huckabee know?
They never mentioned Afghanistan either.
But do the Republicans even notice? No. “Drill, baby, drill!” is what they have to say.
As an Iraq veteran, I’m furious.

” oh and about that bridge to nowhere i said thanks but no thanks ”
except…. actually i didnt, i supported that
how many lies did she tell last night… actually ALL of the republicans, it was we were all going to die, no policy, and lets just make up facts and say this is the facts

During her speech last night, I was floored when Palin accused Obama by saying, “Al Qaida terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America, and he’s worried that someone won’t read them their rights.”
Democracy and free society is tricky business. We must not lose our humanity when confronted by those who would do us harm. I don’t want anyone near the White House who thinks the rights of human beings are irrelevant. Ms. Palin sounds like another Rumsfeld.

PALIN: “I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere.”
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a “bridge to nowhere.”

PALIN: “There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform _ not even in the state senate.”
THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin “got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.”
THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor’s election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

My daughter, who was not an Obama fan, came away from that speech disgusted with the Republican Party.

the speech was awesome – and you know that those “independents” were not randomly selected. blah blah. GO PALIN!!!!! YOU WORKED IT.

I understand why Michigan voters are cold on her.
How on earth a person on first impression (introduction), you just do it by mocking!

I didn’t like the speech either. Sarah Palin and John McCain have no solutions, only empty attacks.
The one thing I’ve learned is that John McCain is the “maverick” some thought he was… he is a hardline social conservative… and look where that got us!

I thought it proved she is not an idiot. Thats about it. If these republicans want 4 more years they had better come up with some policy. Attacking people and belittleing them is easy, what are they going to do to end the war, stop the finacal bleeding of the middle class, build our education system, restore our standing abroad. I for one would have liked to have seen that somewere in there platform but all i saw was attacks.
Sarah scares me I think she’s a religous wack job!

obama was never a real community organizer. other than registering southside residents to vote for him, he cannot site to any accomplishments from his organizing (accept getting a state senate seat). there are REAL community organizers and fake ones. obama, as usual, was a fake one.

Lets see
we are learning from that enthusiastic speech this morning
she lies.
She lied last night…she was for that bridge not against it…and the state kept the money that her scandalous senator buddy got them.
she lied about the taxes. flat out literally lied.
we are finding out more details today about how she lied about the troopergate investigation
and how she was sued earlier because of firing another official when she was mayor.
we are learning that this woman fights corruption when it is not coming from her.
we do not need another lying administration…
if John Mccain is truthful then Sarah Palin is ridiculous…
she read other people’s words last night …won’t answer questions away from that speech
and anyone who is interested in the truth
Obama writes his speeches and answer q and a’s almost every day about every single issue…with follow ups…
Mccain Palin …not so much.
it’s hard to keep the lie if you have to answer to people…
after 2 years now of Obama answering questions and having his life torn apart (on every level) these two morons (Palin yes is a moron when it comes to the world and our place in it…ugh… we will slowly discover her inability to grasp truth in science and the world in detail…she is ridiculous)
just make Obama and Biden look even smarter. Nothing to do with her beign a woman…it has to do with the fact that she is not smart enough…not knowledgable enough and not truthful enough to NOT be just like GW Bush and VP Cheney.
and yes I have an issue with electing another administration that isn’t smart.

I agree with them.
She is dragging the ticket down, but glad she is still on it… more and more information is coming out about her role as governor and her ethics problems.
She is the GOP’s pitbull with lipstick.
Let the pundits, media and journalist rave about her speech… the real Palin has already surfaced and the american people are not duped.
The best gift McCain gave the country was to put this corrupt nowhere woman on the ticket.

Way to go Sarah Palin. You have my vote and I have confidence in McCain/Palin getting things done.
Obama makes promises he can not keep and too many of his programs are socialist ideas. Americans need to be more responsible for their lives and welfare.

I do not like republicans, but I like my money evern more. I work hard for it. Last night I contributed $500 to Obama. I was offended by that speech and with all the speakers belittling Obama

The same people putting Big O on top is now moaning about lack of qualifications.
Big O is in a pickle now. His camp is trying to prove that Palin’s unqualified vs. him. Where’s Hillary who should be at the top of the ticket to fight McCain? Would it not be a more balance battle between HC/BO vs JM/SP?

Sarah Palin had a platform to a health care champion, especially for others who have special needs children that may require medical attention.
She failed.
She just looked negative, scornful, bitter, vindictive, revengeful.
Not world class qualities.

Big O is in a pickle now
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Obama – Magna Cum Laude – Harvard Law
Palin – BA from University of Idaho – Journalism
Biden – JD from Syracuse University
Masters in Poli Sci and History
McCain – 894/899 – Naval Academy
McCain/Palin – Worst Academic Ticket in History!!

jeanne from michigan – when clinton supporters asked about obama’s policy, they told us to read his bios and webpage. i suggest they do the same with palin and mccain. they’re just feeding the dems their own medicine. taste nasty doesn’t it?
besides, it’s clear that her talk was designed more to introduce herself, not to be policy wonkish. this is exactly what obama said he was doing during the primaries — inspiring. clinton was supposedly “cold” and too policy oriented. well, now, he should be able to live with his own medicine.

This indp voter is NOT voting for them …Fair game and she wants to be perpared,many unanswered questions and she is in the big leaque now….Go get her……..God will sent them to war my gosh what a statement….

The Detroit Free Press. Now, there’s real joke for you. Does anyone believe that the audience wasn’t hand-picked? And doe anyone believe Detroit represents the rest of Michigan?

Clinton Aides: Media is being sexist.

did Jay leno and David Letterman’s monologue teams writing that serious policy speech last night…
because there was absolutely no knowledge…no substance and NO CHARACTER to a speech where she literally lied on several occasions…
but I guess because it was entertainment…it was fun.
that’s what we need in the person sitting next to the President
as was stated this morning
on sept. 11 …VP Cheney was on the phone asking the President for permission to shoot down commercial airliners with Americans in them…
as Sarah palin seems to have a little issue with truth and science…
someone really wants to argue that this woman who can’t seem to do a press availability on her knowledge of the world… should be making those calls?
scary that we could even get here with someone like this…

So now its the Demorcrats fault that GM, Chrysler and Ford are on the brink of bankruptcy?

I’m stunned that people are complaining that the republicans “belittled” Obama. LOL. The Democrats have belittled Bush and McCain. In fact, they say that McCain is just Bush III. I guess that’s ok, because the Lord Obama said so. But committing blasphemy against Obama – now that’s just wrong. I have to admit, I enjoyed hearing the Republicans cut through his BS. I predicted it would happen a long time ago. This is, of course, what the Repubs did to Bill Clinton. Instead of recognizing this, the “Obama Generation” of Democrats said the Clintons were evil, more of the same, liars, etc. Doesn’t feel nice when the Repubs are now going after your guy…..

And the liberal sexists continue to try to make mountains out of mole-hills. What a laugh!

I actually am glad she did such a great fluss piece last night…
every Obama supporter and most independents I know, suddenly started getting fired up because they see this right wing candidate …very similar to the values that got us here.

Jeanne from Michigan – of course it’s not too late for her to introduce herself. She will have lots of time to talk about policy. You are just angry because you hate the republicans. Be objective for a moment. As a strategy, it was far more important for her to come out and personalize herself. Besides, she did talk about policy. She discussed energy policy, cutting taxes (really maintaining tax cuts), ending the war, being pro-life, staying tough on terrorism….stuff we’ve already heard before. If you were not so angered by her committing blasphemy against Obama, perhaps you would have heard her discuss policy.

angry dude,
I don’t hate all Repubs. I hate THESE Rovian Repubs. I am Indy. I voted for Bush in 2000, because I believed him when he said he would unite this country. This country is more divided than ever. Palin and McCain are seeking to fracture this country in two.
BTW – I voted for McCain in the MI primary. I don’t who this guy is, but he is NOT the man he was in January!!

Let us not forget that Michigan is in a one state depression. Let them continue to elect democratic governors and democratic mayors and nothing will change for them. Yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnn…

Jeanne – you keep basing reality on conversations with your friends. Sorry – but that is not a random sample of Americans. If I talked to my friends – which I have – they would say the same thing. We are all pretty much Ivy-educated professionals, living in blue state enclaves. So, of course, they will have negative views of Palin.
But, at the end of the day, the heartland is not wowed by an Ivy-attorney running for president. And having gone to an Ivy law school and knowing so many of them – they do not really impress me either. Americans are conservative by nature, and they want someone they feel connects with them on many basic levels. I think that class, race, religion, and political ideology blend to shape people’s views of the candidates. What someone studied in college and where/whether they went to graduate school does not matter much in the end.
Also, having multiple degrees does not necessarily imply intellect. And again – voters have not historically sought intellectual depth. Adalai Stevenson is the classic example of a losing intellectual. If I had my way, more intelligent people would win — like Hillary Clinton. She was specific, to the point, detailed, and a strong woman, but the party went for flashy, new, unknown, and electrifying — someone who demonized the Clintons as just offering “more of the same.” Well, he’s now getting some of his own medicine. Leaves a bad taste, for sure.

Vote McCain/Palin for the “freedoms” of America.
One national religion (sorry, the rest of you)
One national language (sorry, native americans)
One national culture (no more melting pot)
One political vision (liberalism is bad, conservatism is good)
Guns for everyone (so we all can shoot wolves from helicopters for fun)
More constitutional dismantling (Patriotic Act continued)
More corruption and secretive government.
More conservatives on the Supreme Court bench (overturn Roe v. Wade, and other ridiculous rulings).
More GOP fear and hate-mongering against anyone not like them, more $$$$ for oil companies and the rich, no action on pollution or global warming, more war!
Lets go for it! What the helll…
When exactly IS the point when America can no longer be put back on the right track?

Issues? What Issues? Hollow, Shallow Rah Rah

AS A BLACK WOMAN WHO VOTED FOR GEORGE BUSH IN 2004 I CAN BE FAIRLY MODERATE. HOWEVER, THANK YOU GOV.PALIN FOR FIRING UP THE FOLKS ON THE OTHER SIDE WHO REALLY DON’T SEE THINGS GOING TOO WELL, AND WHO DO WANT REAL CHANGE. I MEAN, TELL ME HER STAND AS WELL AS McCAIN’S STAND ON “EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK,” HEALTHCARE, ETC!! I WELCOME HER PERSONAL JIBES!! DEMOCRATS, YOU MUST LEARN AS I HAVE THAT THE REPUBLICANS ALWAYS MAKE EVERYTHING ABOUT A CULTURE WAR! HE’S TOO DIFFERENT ( OBAMA) McCAIN/PALIN ARE JUST LIKE US!!! WELL, I HAVE NEVER LOOKED LIKE THE RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE NUT JOBS AND I AM NOW TELLING ALL MODERATES, INDEPENDENTS,DEMOCRACTS; GAME ON! WE MUST TAKE AMERICA BACK! SHE HAS INDEED FIRED UP NOT ONLY HER LIKE-MINDED AND COOKIE-CUTTER CHRISTIANS WHO ALWAYS TELL YOU HOW TO LIVE, BUT NEVER PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH; BUT THE REST OF US WHO CARE ABOUT HOW THE WHITE HOUSE WILL FIX THE MORTGAGE CRISIS, HEALTHCARE, CRAPPY SCHOOLS, JOBS BEING OUTSOURCED, ETC.

I remember the republicans spinning the story about Michelle Obama not being proud of her country. I want to see how they are gonna spin palin’s husband belonging to the AIP and not wanting to be part of the USA. Wow, a comedy show could not write stuff this good! Obama/Biden 2008!!!

Interesting how Obama followers revert to personal smears. That must mean they cannot find anything of substance to attack in Palin’s address.

I’m sick of being PREACHED to by the “New Democrats” full of hate claiming change.

Palin has given just one speech. (And it was spectacular.)
Wait until she starts campaigning – it will be “Palin fever” where ever she travels.
The Democrats underestimate Palin (and McCain).

Yeah keep preaching BO supporters, you pushing us farther and farther away. Wow! Palin was AWESOME!!!!

Obama supporters are really slinging slime today. Quite Juvenal!

Do some investigative reporting on this because anyone who has been paying any attention at all to this election knows that those aren’t the remarks of Independent voters. Those are the remarks you typically hear from Obama acolytes. That story is designed propaganda.

What I also noticed was the economy was rarely mentioned and George Bush was NEVER mentioned.
The Republicans failed to noticed that we’ve had a Republican in the White HOuse for the past 8 years. and 8 years ago they were making the same promises as they were making yesterday.
Palin speech may have wow the Republicans but nothing beyond that.

Perhaps McCain will fill in the gaps, after all Palin didn’t have the whole night to tear down all the FAKENESS of the OPRAH PROPPED UP BO.

I guess Michigan independent voters are smarter than the “liberal elite” media. I find it interesting that the republicans want change. Here a newsflash: the REPUBLICANS are in the white house! Are they telling us to vote democratic??

Carrie
I live in MI,like your brother. This is a small town similar to Oxford, but they are still a farming community, where we are primarly lakes and parks. Many of the Repub I know are very environmentally active, they do not like her stance on global warming and that is a deal breaker to some. I hear the words Bob Barr being spoken a lot lately.

Jeanne from Michigan said: Palin is the anti-Hillary and will only appeal to the far right. Jeanne, you are so wrong. I am not a far-right person. I am a moderate Democrat who believes in protecting the environment, sustaining Social Security and other social programs. In this election, I have made a decision to send a message to the Democratic Party: ignore and denigrate women at your peril. The Democratic Party does not deserve my support. Hillary Clinton received 50% of the vote in this election, and she should have been named as the vice-presidential candidate. Had her name been Harold Clinton, there would be no question where she would be right now. The ticket would be Obama-Clinton, and I’d be voting for it.

I saw on Levi’s my-space page(palin’s daughters’ boyfriend) that he does not want children. It looks like mccain and Levi may have both made a hasty, unwise decision here.

Let’s toss some red meat to the right wing and reignite the Culture Wars! Fighting about abortion, gays and guns will solve our energy problems, bring peace to the Middle East, provide 47 million Americans with health insurance, produce good paying jobs, and end the credit and home mortgage crisis.
Rick Davis said that “this campaign will not be about issues” and the Republicans have been demonstrating it all week. I never thought I’d say it but McCain is actually beginning to make Bush look like a statesman.

Biden will have to be the “pit bull” in the Nobama campaign…..wonder how he will look in lipstick? Ewwww!

Aston, good one. I a know I am in there. I know did more too.

I used to think the outcome of this election was going to be generational….young and stupid voters vs. grown ups….now I’m thinking gender will be the deciding factor…..VOTERS VOTE 50% ON EMOTION…WHO FEELS RIGHT FOR THE JOB. WOMEN ARE 54% OF THE POPULATION….I am trusting in my sisters to do the right thing and pull the lever for McCain/Palin in Nov.

Carrie, your brother does not speak for Michigan either. So your point is?
Disappointed that not everybody has seen ‘The Light’ from Palin? Now that you had finally found ‘Teh One’?

Wow, what an easy choice this is going to be!

I love what she is saying!!
I love her for saying it!
I love what she will get out the voters
who know the Dem’s have failed to run a campaign that INCLUDED women, the best woman for the job.
They crushed Hillary and the whole party.

So. After yesterday, we still don’t what Sarah has actually ‘Changed’ in Alaska; and we still don’t know what Sarah wants to ‘Change’ in Washington.
You can put lipstick on a pitbull, but in the end, it’s still a pitbull. Nobody likes a pitbull.

Jeanne from Michigan
That’s not the kind of organizer Obama was. Wow, don’t you ever read?

“I need to hear her give an unscripted interview before I can make my final decision”
Posted by: Peace | Sep 4, 2008 11:42:02 AM
Um, uh…uh, ummmm like, uhhh when ummm, Barack is, ummmm unscripted???

“Would that Ilene Beninson be the same Ilene Beninson who signed up to fast every Tuesday for Cindy Sheehan?
Some independent.
I’m sure that he knows who she is. They’re all in the can for Barry.

“Sorry, but her remarks were insulting to all of us trying to make a difference.”
And him belittling her Mayoral experience is okay?

OK there was no substance in the speech. Now can we come back to Trooper gate, Palin being investigated, her affiliation to Alaskan separatists and other republicans admitting McCain made a poor choice?

he AA can vote for the black man…so be it.
We will vote for the woman…wow is she ever more qualified!!!
Sorry bots your undemocratic party has failed ya all!

Obama pronounced her hometown “Wa-silly” in an interview the other day. What an ###….he knew very well his little play on words…just like the sending of his VP text at 3AM and his flipping Hillare off….we’re so onto you bozo.
Hill Supporter for McCain/Palin

I guess the New Dems can’t find one issue to defend, attack etc. So go after the kids, then say “We’re not doing it.” Well maybe you all can get it together and hold out suspense, like BO did to the DEMS for VP, to present something FLAT by Nov. McCain’s suspense, which did NOT have me on the edge of my seat, got me hooten and hollerin with glee when she spoke last night. Yeah Palin made me happy. Obama makes me SICK.

Palin as mayor of Wasilla hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capital request in the nation.
Fact Check

Huh? WAH? Are the New Dems trying to disqualify a GOOD SPEECH? Whatever!!!!

The New Dems can’t focuss on a single argument. I can….PALIN, PALIN, PALIN ROCKS!

Brit Hume just said Reps are thinking that Gov. Palin is their Maggie Thatcher. Count me in….and plenty of Hill supporters….don’t listen to the prattle on this board to do what Hillary is doing and support BO….even she’s voting McCain/Palin….

Like a good pitbull with lipstick, Palin barked on command and bit when instructed to attack.
Wouldn’t it be great if she spoke her own words instead of parroting the venom of a George W, Bush speechwriter?
Nice little lap dog for McCain!

Oh yeah THAT independent Ilene Beninson.
The one that fasts for Code Pink AND
volunteers for Amnesty International.
Riiiigght- Independent.

John McCain & his campaign has been insulting ,distorting, flip flopping, lying throughout the primaries. Did anyone think by adding a Palin to the ticket anything would change? She was offered the VP position and she accepted which means she signed onto becoming part of the team of liars.
McLame is counting on an ill informed electorate. Not this Time. The truth will set McCain free!

Is tonight when McCain will finally explain how his administration will be different from the last 8 years of Republicans?
Unless he can do that, he’s just playing more of the same divisive, partisan “us against them” politics that marked the Bush/Rove years and I think people have had it with this shell game.

“This woman would give Pelosi and Obama a run for their money and she is no fool. I switched this year from democrat to republican because I don’t like Obama. McCain and Palin are true American’s from the time they were born.”
If this woman is so tough, why doesn’t she come out of hiding and answer some actual questions about her record off the cuff instead of reading from a boiler plate Republican script that was written by McCain’s Rovian advisors?
By the way, I was a Republican who became a Democrat because of George Bush. I don’t see McBush (er, I mean McCain) to be any different.
Essentially, Sarah Palin is Dan Quayle in a dress. Can’t wait until she starts talking about how it was “God’s will” for us to preemptively invade Iraq.
Dems will win the election this time on the basis of new voter registrations. So those of you who don’t want 4 more years of Bush, let’s get to work to ensure the right wing propaganda does not sink in like that Iraq WMD propaganda did.
By the way, John McCain wasn’t actually born in America per se, he was born in the Canal Zone.
Enough of the attacks on Obama’s patriotism. He is a true American, and is not an elitist (that one REALLY makes me laugh). Unlike John McCain with his rich background, his $500 shoes and his eight houses.
And one last thing lest we forget. To all you moralists out there who cannot see the hypocrisy in these family values right wingers who preach one thing, but then end up with teenage, pregnant daughters in their own home, remember that Mr. war hero McCain divorced his first wife while she was suffering from a terminal illness, only to remarry an attractive younger woman with money.

I love that before the speech, Obama supporters were scoffing. Now, they are saying incredible things like “she is Bush in a dress!”…”We expected this! She is nothing but an attack dog!”
So sorry she disappointed. Remember last week when you were praising Biden’s “attack dog” role?

the palin speech last night wasn’t a grand slam, it was an empty net goal. reading a speech (written by someone else, for someone else) off a teleprompter shouldn’t be that hard for a former sportscaster in front of a friendly crowd.
and btw, you know who else has “executive experience” — and had it before he became president? george w bush. that really worked out well, didn’t it?

Cindy McCain showed up in a $300,000 get-up to the convention. Elitist anyone? Plus they don’t know how many houses they own…
This is a political gift for Obama

And to think, Palin is a woman who has ALWAYS been proud of America!

I find it very odd that the Republicans keep saying they’re for ethics reform while saying Obama hasn’t created any major legislation.
Among his sponsored legislation was the current ethics reform law, the toughest in modern US history.
Why do they have to lie about this?

McCain wrote three books so I guess we’re not supposed to vote for him either.
I’m a woman, and I wouldn’t vote for Sarah Palin if she were the last woman on Earth.

” I am opposed to many of the positions that Sarah Palin holds. However, those positions pale in comparison to my determination to help shatter the highest glass ceiling. As a 72-year old woman who faced discrimation first-hand in the work place, I intend to support this female candidate for Vice President. When the Democratic Party begins to appreciate the women who make up more than half its membership, I may consider returning to the party of my parents and grandparents.”
With the utmost respect, isn’t that a bit silly? The Democrats nominated a woman for VP 24 years ago. Hillary wasn’t done out of her nomination, it wasn’t taken away from her, she simply lost by a few hundred delegates, and as much as I like her (I voted for her on Super Tuesday) I have to say it’s because she ran a very poor campaign.
If you vote for McCain and Palin just because Hillary lost and Palin is a woman you will be voting against everything Hillary has worked for, and buying into a very cynical ploy by the Republican Party…which is betting you cannot tell the difference between one woman and another.

Sarah, et al keep trying to paint the Dems as big tax, big government liberals. Republicans don’t like taxes (on rich people) but they sure love fat government contracts and privatizing wars that become very lucrative to their friends. They don’t like big government but under Bush, they made sure to steal as many civil liberties as they could and claim unlimited privelege for the president. How do we get things like roads, bridges, levees, and schools paid for, anyway — could it be . . . taxes? Let the repubs pretend to be against big government for another four years and I guarantee that what we’ll get is bad government, more starvation rations for schools and infrastructure, and a country that won’t invest in itself and will fall yet further behind.

Never-done-nothing Obama just moans about 4 more years of Bush. But his powder is getting damp. People want more and McCain will give it to them. While Obama spouts rhetoric, McCain continues to prove he has a handle on things.
Hype only goes so far. Sooner or later, Obama will have to demonstrate substance. A prospect that seems to allude him.

Palin’s views are so extreme, she makes Bush look moderate.

“I’m a woman, and I wouldn’t vote for Sarah Palin if she were the last woman on Earth.”
If you are a woman and she is a woman and she is the last woman on Earth then thee is she.
Logic just doesn’t mix well with bitter butter on the cornflakes, mad’m.

Debra – If you don’t believe the justice system, which has not indicted, implicated or named Obama in their investigation of Rezko, perhaps you’d believe conservative newspapers. Several months ago Obama sat with two Chicago Papers, including the conservative Tribune, and answered every question their editorial and reporting staff had about he and Rezko. Both papers said afterwards that they were satisfied Obama had done nothing wrong. I doubt you’ve given the matter as much attention as the papers have.

Dorothy Bailey, Collinsville, IL:
How can you make this statement with a straight face? Here’s the end of your comment:
…When the Democratic Party begins to appreciate the women who make up more than half its membership, I may consider returning to the party of my parents and grandparents.
Posted by: Dorothy Bailey, Collinsville, IL | Sep 4, 2008 9:48:21 AM
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Hillary Clinton got 18M votes!?! How does the Democratic party not appreciate women candidates? The Dems actually VOTED for a woman. McCain is a Republican candidate who selected a woman to run. One Repub picked her. 18M Dems picked Clinton. This election has to be about the issues. There is too much at stake.
As a political speech, I thought Gov Palin impressed for sure last night. But, it was v light on policy. And, when she did talk about national issues/policies, I thought she came across as someone who was speaking about these things for the first time on a national stage. I still have serious reservations about her ability to serve as President if necessary. I’m open to giving her the chance over the next 60 days or so, but she has to make the case. Last night, was more of a mud-flinging than anything else.

For all of you calling the media sexist: Please explain the “Alaska; Coolest State with the Hottest Gov” buttons being worn last night?????

Amazing, but predictable how all the fringe PUMAs and right wingers are coming to the defense of their gimmicky VP selection. If McCain wanted a woman on the ticket, he might’ve selected Susan Collins or Olympia Snowe or Kay Baily Hutchinson; all strong, accomplished women and Snowe and Collins could actually attract my vote. Palin has never even been out of the country save for a visit to the Alaskan National Guard troops in Iraq. Gimme a break. Why is Johnny McInsane so afraid of strong women?
I’m voting for the self made guy who had the judgement to select an emminently qualified VP and is looking to address my economic worries. Obama gets foreign policy naturally. Biden been everywhere and knows all the power players around the world. This election is too easy for anyone who actually loves our country and wants to dig us out of the hole we are in.
Obama/Biden 08 is the only answer this time.

Independents? No. Look them up – Liberal Democrats, almost every one:
George Lentz, this is his stellar bio:
Michigan UU Social Justice Network Networking for justice and community service
Since December 2002, has met regularly to exchange information & plan activities
Surveyed 552 local UU’s on their positions on justice issues issues (survey results)
Took public stand against war in Iraq
Organized civil liberties workshop in partnership with UUSC & Heartland District
Conducted petition drive to help defeat Michigan anti-gay marriage legislation
Conducted Heartland District Workshop on “Networking for Justice”
Organized Get Out The Vote (GOTV) Workshop & sent information to Heartland Districh churches on how to get involved with GOTV activities

Sorry. I can’t toe the line on this one. Palin is fantastic.

I found the speech a HUGE turn off.
Attacking community leaders?
As a woman, I can say this, HER VOICE is
annoying.

Sarah’s way too busy with Her Big Important Career to pay any attention to her kids.

The speech was not good. I felt she came off as sarcastic and it lacked real substance. Although delivered well, I was not impressed.

Sarah Palin became mayor of a town with about 5000 people in 1996. When she came into office Wasilla had no debt. When she left office in 2002 it was $22 million in debt mainly because of the hockey rink/sports complex she championed that never has become the money generator she promised it would be. It’s a white elephant money pit brought to Wasilla by another white elephant.
She angered so many people in town with her heavy handed ways she was forced to hire a town administrator and turn over the day to day operations to him or face a recall.
As governor she’s running up huge debts to pay for the profligate spending of her Republican legislature by issuing bonds Alaskans will get stuck paying off in the future. Alaska gets 89% of it’s revenues from taxes on oil just like an Arab kingdom and Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela. With oil prices going sky high the state has seen a mountainous windfall surplus coming in from oil taxes over the 18 months she’s been governor and instead of using it to pay for all the wild spending her cronies want she plans on blowing it on tax giveaways she’ll take credit for while sticking Alaskans and federal taxpayers with the bill in the future.
Alaska for decades has gotten more federal pork per capita than any other state in the union thanks to her good buddies indicted senator Ted Stevens and congressman Don Young. After she hired one of Jack Abramoff’s friends to lobby for tiny Wasilla in Washington it got $27 million dollars in federal pork. Three of those projects even made McCain’s own wasteful spending list. But even with $27 million in pork and the booming Clinton economy for most of her years as mayor from 1996 to 2002 she left the town $22 million in the red.
We can’t afford Palin anymore than we can afford McCain. Sarah Palin should once again choose life, outside of Washington.

Victor Shaw says he is voting BO because Biden is emminently more qualifed to be VP….what? He’s more qualified to be at the top of your ticket and even said to us Obama is not ready and looks good and clean and is articulate for an African American. Getting asbestos removed from a building, as community organizer and voting “present” 130 times in the senate doesn’t sell me. Bozo lost me with Wright…and it just went down from there. I’m with Hillary and Biden….Obama just has a speech from 2004 and isn’t ready.
McCAIN/PALIN

The Republican Vice Presidential
candidate:
Sarah “The Iraq war is God’s Plan” Palin

“Jeanne…..SOME OF US WANT LESS GOV. TELLING US WHAT TO DO….THAT’S SOCIALISM, WHAT YOUR BOY IS PEDDLING.
Give me the freedom to choose my own health insurance….check with Canadians.”
What an oxi-moron, you want less government but you are willing to bring in a woman who wants to abolish abortion, hence dictating to each and every woman in the U.S. that the government is going to make that choice for them, except in a case where a woman’s life is in danger. In the case of incest or rape, you have no choice. Yep, freedom alright to make personal choice.
Being Canadian I and the majority of Canadian do NOT want your system of health care, heck most of the world doesn’t want your system of health care. When are you all going to realize that you need some mega changes in order to get the international respect that the U.S. use to have before BUSH… I can’t believe you would be so unintelligent to go down that route again, after watching last night, (shaking my head). It’s up to you, no shirt off my back but it sure as heck is to all of you. Keep your economy low, keep losing your homes, keeping fighting a ridiculous lie of a war… vote for the lies of the Republicans… what a bunch of theatrics. I thought Christian’s were suppose to try and emulate the teaching in the bible? Guess she lies about that too.

Palin is a fraud as any review of her record will demonstrate:
Her lies on the Bridge to Nowhere; Her connections to indicted Sen. Ted Stevens’ 527 PAC; Her (ab)use of Earmarks getting millions for her small town with the use of a Jack Abramoff-linked LOBBYIST; and her record as mayor that shows a Bush/Cheney-esqe demand for loyalty oaths! … from the City Librarian and Police Chief? Are you kidding me?
Now she is refusing to testify in an investigation over her potential abuse of power … firing the Public Safety Commissioner when he wouldn’t fire her former brother-in-law. Real classy …
So lets see, Palin is a Liar and a fraud who is under investigation … A perfect Bush/Cheney Republican.

I guess the “Thousand Points of Light” has morphed into the “Thousand Points of Spite”.
My sister organizes and lobbies for health care for the poor in Missouri. I’ve never felt more antipathy for a group of people as I did for that convention hall of over-pampered, smug Republicans last night.
Are Christians supposed to laugh at people trying to help the poor? Is that what Jesus would do?

John McCain still suffers grievously from his war wounds and torture he was subjected to in Vietnam. While his mother may be a hardy 96 years old his father and grandfather both died of sudden heart attacks, his father at age 71, his grandfather at 60. McCain with his angry, hothead, type A personality turned 72 the other day.
Ask yourself if you want a Vice President who is a hardcore ideologue, has no foreign policy experience, no Washington experience, with a penchant for making enemies (ask both Republicans and Democrats in Alaska) who has governed a state with less than 700,000 people in it for less than 2 years.
No way.

“Yeah, these people really sound like independents (roll eyes).
Anyhoo, everyone is entitled to their opinion. It appears far greater numbers were moved by her speech!”
Dream on loser. Believe it or not most normal people are put off by shrieking sarcastic negativity. For all your whining about the ANGRY LEFT it’s you freaks who’ve let your hate become you.
Check Joe Biden’s response to your lame attack dog’s diatribe for a real person’s reaction. “Whoa!” Freaks.

Sarah Palin has my support and my vote!
I will not support Obama who hates White People!

So Dorothy, you’re willing to give power to a party which will deny a woman’s right to choose, a party which finds wars an acceptable (and God’s will) situation, which wants to (in a feeding frenzy screaming “DRILL NOW!”) drill offshore and put alternate energy solutions secondary and which will disenfranchise the growing numbers of people different from them? I saw so few people of color at the convention in St. Paul and find that to be an appalling fact. America is changing.
Your bitterness over Hillary’s loss has obviously clouded your reason. Sarah Palin brings NONE of the Clinton values to the Republican ticket. Her limitations are too numerous to mention, and McCain’s age makes it probable, were he to win, that she might end up president. Is that really what you want for your children and grandchildren? I don’t. (I’m 76 and have seen these games played before.) Please think again!

I don’t want a President who is being led around by the hand by Biden. Something wrong when #2 is stronger than your #1, but we all knew Obama had to pick someone with cred, since he has none. Much happier with stong #1 and smart, quick learn #2.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN

Agree with the majority who claim Palin’s speech was dull, hateful and lacking in specifics. Lies about Obama’s record, lies about Obama and taxes, lies about her support for the Bridge to Nowhere, which she endorsed and, big surprise, nothing about her vengeful “Troopergate” episode. Keep cheering Extreme Right Wingers. You’ve had your Pat Buchanan 1992 moment, enjoy it, we will enjoy the White House.

anon….Hillary supporters KNOW Obama will pass her over for anything in his cabinet…please. He screwed her over and he’s not going to offer her jack.
HILL SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN

Dorothy Bailey, Collinsville, IL:
How can you make this statement with a straight face? Here’s the end of your comment:
…When the Democratic Party begins to appreciate the women who make up more than half its membership, I may consider returning to the party of my parents and grandparents.
Posted by: Dorothy Bailey, Collinsville, IL | Sep 4, 2008 9:48:21 AM
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Hillary Clinton got 18M votes!?! How does the Democratic party not appreciate women candidates? The Dems actually VOTED for a woman. McCain is a Republican candidate who selected a woman to run. One Repub picked her. 18M Dems picked Clinton. This election has to be about the issues. There is too much at stake.
As a political speech, I thought Gov Palin impressed for sure last night. But, it was v light on policy. And, when she did talk about national issues/policies, I thought she came across as someone who was speaking about these things for the first time on a national stage. I still have serious reservations about her ability to serve as President if necessary. I’m open to giving her the chance over the next 60 days or so, but she has to make the case. Last night, was more of a mud-flinging than anything else.

McCain had two choices. His instinct was to tack to the center and compete for the undecideds. Lieberman was his first choice and would have been a sound one, second perhaps only to Colin Powell. But the base would have none of it, threatening a floor fight over the VP slot. His only remaining choice was to play solely to the base, ala 2004. Even there he could have probably done better than Palin; Huckabee comes to mind. But at least with Palin he made a half-hearted attempt to woo PUMAs and undecided females. Alas, apparently to no avail, given the steady migration of undecideds towards Obama since the announcement. Perhaps he can console himself with the knowledge that the Party, rather than himself, lost the thing…

Klaus….Gov. Palin’s favorablity is 80%, higest of any Governor in the country, sorry beats Nobama.

Independents? LOL
Ilene Beninson is a Code Pink Nut.

Here’s the short version:
Before McCain selected Palin, I didn’t have much doubt about his judgement. Since he has a history of cancer/health issues and is 72 years old, I now have doubts about his judgement because I don’t think picked someone who meets his self-proscribed standard of being the most qualified person in the GOP to serve as his second in command.
Last night’s speech did very little to aleviate my serious concerns about Gov Palin’s readiness to serve as commander-in-chief if McCain gets sick or worse, God forbid, while in the white house. More and more, it looks like the selection of Gov Palin was a political calculation to win votes. It sickens me to think this is the case.

I’m a Michigan independent who agrees with all the quotes from this focus group.

Happily, McCain is not going to win with distortions, smears, virtiol, and general nastiness. I think that most Americans are wise enough now not to buy into middle-school methods for winning an argument. Karl Rove might have engineered two victories for Bush in this way, but the scales have fallen from the American peoples’ eyes. It ain’t gonna happen again.

Agree with the majority who claim Palin’s speech was dull, hateful and lacking in specifics. Lies about Obama’s record, lies about Obama and taxes, lies about her support for the Bridge to Nowhere, which she endorsed and, big surprise, nothing about her vengeful “Troopergate” episode. Keep cheering Extreme Right Wingers. You’ve had your Pat Buchanan 1992 moment, enjoy it, we will enjoy the White House.

Debra
Very few Democratic woman will drop all the issues they hold near and dear to vote for Palin. She is no Hillary. She is a right wing conservative first and foremost. She was chosen by McCain for cynical reasons. Women recognize this. Most voters recognize this. She will only excite voters in Red States.

She seemed angry, divisive, and mean, to me.
When the Country wants to come together and raise the bar to a greater civility, for the Peoples sake, to get things done, this Woman does nothing for that cause.

I watched Sarah Palin’s speech last night, and agree with the independent commentators who thought her comments were snide and self-serving. One speech does not make a great candidate. In addition, her views are extreme, with a pro-life stance that is right of Attila the Hun, an anti-gay, anti-woman, and anti-government stance that makes Pat Buchanan very proud. (watched the speech on MSNBC) Moreover, she is no reformer, contrary to the spin that accompanies her persona. Her town, Wasilla, gained over $27 million in earmarks during her reign, which is over $4,000 for every person living there! She was also FOR the “bridge to nowhere” before she was against it. How anyone could support McCain/Palin when they represent such extreme positions is beyond me.

Is there any indication that Sarah is any more religious than Barrack?
After all, didn’t he go to church for the last 20 years and was close friends with both his pastor and a priest?

TO Dorothy,
The Democrats currently have a woman as the 3rd in line for the presidency in Nancy Pelosi and put a woman on the presidential ticket over 25 years ago. The Republicans and their policies pale in comparison. Hilary Clinton’s years of hard work and grasp of the issues is so far superior than Palin’s, why would you want to reward her with the presidency?
The only thing Palin’s speech proved last night was that the allegations of her abuses of power are perfectly plausible.

That speech appealed to no one but the base and only the religious base……It was condensending, sarcastic and to MOCK community service was ridiculous
They lost Independents with that speech

I heard her speak yesterday and don’t understand why she is getting so much kudos from media. I thought she gave a pretty boring, negative and petty speech. As Obama has said earlier, republicans are going to make this election about petty things. Looks like mccain chose a good vp candidate to help him win election with lies and hypocrisy.

Mike & onecent
This ‘revelation’ you uncovered doesn’t mean Ilene Beninson is not an independent. Remember an independent can be left of center or right of center not just in the center. Independent does not mean moderate.

My father who was born in the 19th century said most women will cut off their nose to spite their face. These Hillary supporters who talk about supporting McCain/Palin are doing that because she is no HILLARY CLINTON AND NEVER WILL BE.

An Independent, here: Name-calling and distortions are adolescent. To find that in national politics, is depressing.
Last night, I was depressed!

Palin came across as mean and hateful. She may mobilize the right-wing base, but it’s going to backfire on the center. And when it becomes widely known that she tried to ban library books in Wasilla, she’s going to get even worse for her.
McCain made a huge mistake in picking her.

Watching the Republican convention has been a surreal, through the looking glass experience. In 2000 I was a McCain supporter and volunteer. I was so disgusted by the Bush tactics in South Carolina that year that I became deeply skeptical of the Republican party in general and the Bush cadre in particular.
Watching the Republican party’s embrace of George Bush and what I saw as empty and divisive rhetoric was jarring and somewhat disorienting. Why were supposedly intelligent people so willing to believe the big lie? Yet that expereince was trivial compared to the run up to the Iraq invasion. With a built in distrust of the Bush administration there was never a second where I believed the case for the war.
If the 2000 election was jarring the run-up to the Iraq war was something approaching a nightmare. It was as if the world as I understood it was turned upside down. The so-called loyal opposition and the watchdog media were nowhere to be found. As someone who had never bought into the lies to begin with it seemed to be a relentless cacophony of ugly sloganeering based on the simple notion that, ‘Good Americans are with us – bad Americans are against us.’ No substance, a brazen disregard for the truth, and a style of argumentation that favors neurolingusitic deception and gotcha over deliberation and honest debate.
It’s sad to say that it has taken the cumulative failures of Iraq, Katrina, Guantanamo Bay, and the economy to embolden people to stand up to the lies and Orwellian double speak of the Bush administration. Watching this year’s Republican convention has been like watching a viral outbreak of a style of political communication that I wrongfully assumed was in retreat. Hadn’t good intentioned people all over the political spectrum learned something essential about the need for truth and honest debate in our democracy?
Yet, on display all week we see wall to wall professional conservatives resorting to their favorite playbook; character assassination, false innuendo, a brazen disregard for facts, and a concerted effort brand disagreement as disloyalty. From the stage; speaker after speaker whipping the auditorium into a frenzy by pandering to the worst instincts of a group of unquestioning adherents. Scarcely a word spoken about the significant challenges’ our country faces – just red meat being thrown to the ultra partisans.
Gov. Palin was sold as a refomer and a maverick. Her performance Wednesday night shouts out that she is neither. By picking up the Bush/Rove playbook she has demonstrated her willingness to submit Americans to the divisive wedge politics of 2000 and 2004. In 2000 I learned, deep in my soul, to distrust George Bush. It is a distrust that has served me well. I’m proud that I never fell for his BS -just as I will never fall for Ms. Palin’s.
As Dennis Kucinich said; “Wake-up America.” Before it’s too late.

TBone: I live in Manhattan Beach. One of the wealthiest areas in LA. Range rovers everywhere.
Also: Obama signs everywhere. One thing you don’t see is McCain signs.
So let’s please stop with the nonsense that the wealthy vote republican, because it simply isn’t true.

Sarah loves America and America loves Sarah. hahaha! Zerobama is doomed!

i think it is very offensive of the republicans to nominate a vice president based on gender or religion. we are talking about a very real possibility this woman may be president if mccain should die. this is very serious. she can’t even go on the sunday morning shows how is she going to be president?

OOOOhhhhh Sunday morning shows!1 Real tough one there. Mayeb because she’s in church instead of worshipping at the alter of the elite media! Yeah baby!

JOhn should read the whole article, not the snippets Maddow & Co. are trying to beat her over the head with. She has a lot of Jewish support. The Republican Jewish Coalition likes her and so does AIRPAC. She has an Israeli flag in her office.

Joellen Gilchrist and Ilene Beninson are members of Code Pink. Hardly what I would call “independents”.

Sarah Palin took a town with $0 debt in 1996 and left it $22 million in the hole in 2002, mostly from the hockey rink/sports complex she shoved down their throats which never became the money generator she promised it would. Another white elephant from another white elephant.
Even with the stable Clinton economy during most of her mayoral tenure and Jack Abramoff’s crony she hired to lobby Washington to help her now indicted buddy Ted Stevens ring up $27 million in federal pork for tiny Wasilla (pop. 5000 when she entered office) she still managed to leave the town swimming in debt. Three of her pork projects even made McCain’s own wasteful spending list.
The following organization is the offshoot of President Reagan’s Private Sector Survey on Cost Control started in 1984, also known as the Grace Commission. Definitely not a Dem friendly group but even these guys apparently think Alaska is America’s welfare queen state.
Citizens Against Government Waste
http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=homePage

Rank State Pork Population Pork/Capita

2000 1 Alaska $394,514,000 619,500 $636.83
2001 1 Alaska $480,297,000 626,932 $766.11
2002 1 Alaska $451,334,278 634,892 $710.88
2003 1 Alaska $393,346,750 643,786 $610.99
2004 1 Alaska $524,329,000 648,818 $808.13
2005 1 Alaska $645,502,000 655,435 $984.85
2006 1 Alaska $325,106,000 663,661 $489.87
2007 not listed
2008 1 Alaska $379,699,715 683,478 $555.54
As governor she is borrowing from Alaska’s future while she wants to blow today’s Alaskan windfall oil tax bonanza and the huge surpluses they’ve generated on bread and circuses tax giveaways.
Alaska gets 89% of it’s operating budget from taxing oil coming out of the ground just like Arab kingdoms and Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela. They have no state income or sales tax up there. Instead of using that windfall to pay for all the profligate spending her Republican legislature keeps sending her she’s issuing bonds to pay for it which Alaskans and US taxpayers will have to pay off in future years while she takes credit for tax “rebates” while she’s governor.
Her fiscal policy is a disaster in the making which won’t hit til she’s left the governor’s office. She’d be a disaster as Vice President especially to a President who despite his grevious wounds and type A personality is already past the age his father and grandfather died of sudden heart attacks.
She can put on all the lipstick she wants but her political record is for the dogs.

It seemed to me that the “media” the Republicans are complaining about, all thought she was wonderful.
I found her speech lacked substance, was petty and vindictive. But now she seems to be this media darling.
I would like to say that Americans aren’t fooled by these low brow tactics, but I can’t. America reelected GW?! I can see how many Americans will listen to the crap she spews and say “we probably shouldn’t vote for Obama”. It’s sad, but I believe a real possibility of this exists. Too bad America doesn’t WAKE UP!!

If anyone took time to do some fact checking on this so-called focus group they would know two of the six are members of Code Pink and another is a known enviro activist… not exactly a focus group that is made up of true independents or should be the stuff of major network headlines….
Of course, in their love affair with Barrak Obama why let balanced and honest reporting get in the way.

you want to talk about what she did as mayor, then let’s talk about what biden did as a senator and o!bama did as a community organizer.
you want to talk about what she did as governor, then let’s look at what biden did… as a senator and o!bama did as a state senator.
you want to talk about what she did with the budgets at either level, then let’s look at what biden did… as a senator and o!bama has done as a senator.
in all cases, only one person was directly responsible to the people who voted both for and against them.
and only one person has been directly involved in public safety on more than one level of government.
i wouldn’t be surprised to learn only one of them knows how to handle a gun and thinks you should own one – just like our Founding Fathers.

I live in Michigan and have supported Senator Obama over the past 18 months (as has most of my entire family), but others at my place of work who were not supporting Senator Obama yet wanted to hear Sarah Palin speak last night. Well, I have to say as of this morning Senator Obama has 14 more supporters as Sarah Palin did NOT impress any of them (10 women and 4 men), no wonder Senator Obama has raised over 10 million since last night…..he will win in Michigan.

I think McCain blew Michigan and Florida with this VP pick.

More nasty attacks, and some very personal mocking, this won’t resonate with female voters, only white trash from woods. Watch the republicans not even get a bounce, prob a loss in polls…
Didn’t even talk about issue #1,(economy) spent all their time attacking another American. Thats not gonna solve our problems

Just vote for a third party candidate. It really is that simple.
Either Nader or Barr offer more substance than these two nincompoop tickets combined.
These are the two most hilarious tickets the GOP & Dems have ever fielded.
I find myself almost insulted by the two choices they are offering in 2k8.

Ms. Palin can sure read a speech written for her by someone else. However, I could take only so much of her voice and her condescending attitude before I had to shut her off. No, never, not in a million years. Pack her up and send her back to Alaska.

I’m sure she excited the repub base.
But they will vote for Maccain even without her.
But, repub base is minority these days.
So what does Maccain gain from this pick?
as a obama supporter, i was worried that he might choose Rommey, then Michigan can go to Blue. Now i feel relieved. Thank you , Maccain….

It is offensive for the Republicans to nominate a VP candidate based on her gender or religion, but it is all OK for the Democrats to nominate someone for the President who has zero experience and “did I mention he is black”? Wake up, people. History of him being the first black man being elected to the highest office will not help to reduce the price of oil, food, repair roads and bridges, strengthen our military etc. His program will, but from what I can see he is weak and undecisive on pretty much anything and everything. His economic program is more of the same bs Democratic policy we have been seeing during Carter years. His team of 300 foreign policy advisers needed three days to come up with a proper draft about Georgia. He is spending his raised money faster than he can raise it.

Jake, it is barely laudable that you have *noted that two of the independents were actually Code Pink members, and so, therefore, not independents at all. But do you really believe that a footnote is sufficient to rehabilitate this bogus story? It seems to me that your credibility is at stake here.
They were intentional plants, Jake, and so this whole exercise by the Detroit Pree Press is completely suspect! How could you not conclude that at a minimum the process the Detroit Free Press used to select representative “independents” was comletely corrupted? How can you, therefore, continue to give it any credibility at all?
Jake, I have followed your blog with interest, but you are simply being taken apart on some other sites.
Are you going to join Dan Rather and say it was “fake but true?”

LOL….the mainstream media pimped again — whether by the Code Pinkos or by somebody in the Free Press’ newsroom.
Whoever did it, all of this is music to my ears. It’s about time you guys were exposed.
Was Bill Burkett an independent on the panel too?

Keep it up Jake- you’re obviously terrified of this women who’s had the courage to actually ‘do’ what other supposed agents of change will only talk about.