Obama Challenges McCain’s New Definition of the ‘Fundamentals’ That Are Strong

Again: Obama, we know you think McCain doesn’t know jack, okay?
What will you do, specifically, to stabilize the economy, besides raise taxes on the wealthy and implement new spending programs? (and no, giving $1000+ out and magically creating “green” jobs does not count)

Again: McCain, we know you think Obama doesn’t know jack, okay?
What will you do, specifically, to stabilize the economy, besides cut taxes on the wealthy and drill for oil? (and no, giving $1000s to the upper 2% and magically creating Walmart jobs does not count)

“Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has been hitting McCain hard on the comments for months, never including McCain’s many caveats and statements of understanding that people are hurting.”

Did I forget to mention that John McCain was a POW and the qualifies him to clean up the Republican messes? OOPS, he is a Republican–did I mention he was a POW?
BTW: did you know that Alaska is near Russia and that means “horseshoe foreign policy experience”?

No matter what Obama says, his formula for fixing the economy is to raise tax on business. Period.
While companies are struggling, his solution is to burden them with additional taxes in order to hand out entitlements, (like giving tax refunds to those who don’t pay taxes, one of his more brilliant schemes)
If 38% of americans don’t pay taxes AT ALL, why is it fair to those of us that have built businesses, and sacrificed, and taken risk, to bear this additional load?
While those that have never taken risk, or sacrificed time away from their families can spend it?
If the government can come into my pocket to the tune of 60%, the new upper tax rate under Obama, how is that in any way equitable?

The tide is turning and the Obama camp is getting back on track. Palin had her week or two to bathe in glory.
I like the new and improve Obama camp. They recieved the memo. Fight back.
So far so good.

The fundamentals of this economy are strong. The fundamentals are free market, competition i.e capitalism. If Obama thinks that capitalism is broken would he like to fix the economy by replacing it with different fundamentals. The only others I think of are socialism and communism. Obama needs to tell the American people which fundamentals of this economy he would like to change. I think we deserve an answer.

Obama has made ending the war in Iraq a hallmark of his campaign. Is he more concerned about bringing the troops home sooner than later or does he really want the troops to remain in Iraq just long enough so he can take credit for fulfilling a campaign promise? The idea that a presidential candidate would try to keep the troops in harm’s way any longer than he believes necessary is truly disturbing.
Regardless of my political differences with Sen. Barack Obama, I sincerely hope this turns out to be untrue. Perhaps those in the MSM can get over their “tingly feelings” for a moment and actually do their jobs and follow up to find out if this is true.

Why is Obama now bashing American workers? Is he trying to bring the economy down even more? After I heard that behind the scenes he was trying to delay bringing home the troops I really don’t trust him.

McCain/Palin have had about as good a 2 weeks any Presidential campaign has ever had, but Obama is really starting to pound McCain on the economy and has turned things around over the past 4 days. As long as people are not distracted with pigs, smears, and fake controversies, Obama will be fine.

McCain thinks the economy is fundamentally sound because it is for him and his rich friends! This man is so out of touch it is ridiculous and Palin is even worse. Lest we forget, McCain is a republican–that’s the party that has RUINED this country for the past 7-1/2 years!! Throw the bums out and start over with a veto proof majority of democrats for the house and senate and a democratic president and then things will get done. The republicans have had their chance and they have DESTROYED America; if McCain wins the election, God help us all because I don’t know how American can survive 4 more years of republican abuse!

Biggest Liar Ever!
Guess who? John McLiar

isnt that against the logan act?

Why did Obama try and delay bringing the troops home? Why Barry why?

Ryan C:
Okay, he’s got some plans about helping individual mortgage buyers against future fraud crisis. First, that does not necessarily address the overall stability of the economy now. Second, so does McCain. See his website, too…

The right wing has to push their lies.
Isn’t it pathetic how everyone of them is demanding that MSM cover their bs story?
This is like the thrown away flags, Obama not visiting the troops in Germany etc.
They’re all right wing lies told because the right wing is afraid Obama and the change he will bring.

Obama is a fool for criticizing McCain on saying the economy is fundamentally strong.
Obama would rather create a PANIC just to win the election.
FOOLS – you are messing with a run on the banks and a total collapse of the economy stirring up panic. STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama’s campaign is all about fear, not hope. He trys to stir up fear over Roe vs Wade. He stirred up fear on Iraq, and now he comes out and stirs up fear on the economy at a very fragile moment.
I don’t want a President who speaks to the nation in a time of crisis and says we are weak doomed and failing. Sorry, I personally don’t think that is what we need right now.
OMG – I can’t imagine him as President stirring up constant fear and panic.

Look at all the GOP bloggers trying to divert attention from the gaffe their candidate made. Truth is the Iraqi gov`t has endorsed Obama`s 2010 withdrawal plan.
Bottomline is McCain is out of touch. Get over it.

What is Obama going to offer? At least Mc Cain is making gaffes.
Obama will not tell you as Mc Cain is going to hit him more harder.

According to First Read, McCain has said that “the fundamentals of the economy” are stong 16 times since Jan 1st to June 5th and he repeated on August 20th during the Laura Ingram show.
McCain you have been caught red handed!!!

Anyone care to put in print how Obama’s district in Chicago is doing? If he can’t manage his own house…

Who is Sarah Palin again? Sarah who?

Reality has crashed into Mr. McCain and now he is off rails. Boo hoo for him. He is toast.

By John McCain’s new definition, the fundamentals of the economy in the US have always been strong including during the Great Depression.
What’s next, is he going to define the fundamentals of the economy as the fact that we have warm bodies in the US?
Seriously, does anyone believe that the Republican party is the best choice to implement government regulation – the very antithesis of their platform?

Wow. Now we’re spreading ridiculous rumors?
Come on. Let’s think about this rationally. How would delaying withdraw of troops from Iraq help Obama?
First, the Iraq issue isn’t even on anyone’s top ten list anymore. No one has even talked about it in a month.
Second, having troops start to withdraw right now makes it a lot easier to attack John McCain for his opposition to withdrawing troops. After all, is he going to send them back? He’ll have to reverse his position about withdrawing troops and that flip-flop would be major for Obama.
So really, this rumor is just brain dead. Next people will start bringing up how 9/11 was manufactured by the Bush administration. Come on… this doesn’t even pass the sniff test.

Lars – not to mention Reagan’s deregulation of the Savings and Loan industry in the early ’80s… Anyone remember that one? Of course, John McCain remembers…. His good buddy John Keating went to prison for fraudulent activities enabled by this wonderful Republican idea.

Chris in TX,
That’s an interesting historical perspective you have there. The fact is Kennedy was also a supply sider (a rising tide lifts all boats). During the Reagan years his supply side policies brought in record tax revenue. Unfortunately the Democrat controlled Congress spent it faster than it came in. Every balance sheet has two sides to the ledger and Reagan did his part. Bush 41 tried to balance the books by raising taxes, failed miserably and lost his job.
Clinton worked extremely well with Gingrich and Lott. They all actually worked together to balance revenues and spending. Spending is the key. Graham-Rudman was effective while it lasted. Since then Congress has returned to its spending ways, both Democrats and Republicans. And of course the spending on the war has hurt a lot.
I’m oversimplifying quite a bit but you can’t possibly blame today’s financial crisis on supply side economics.

McCain will pick up where Bush left off. You’ll get more Bush years if you vote for McCain. McCain thinks the same as GW Bush. Can it be any clearer? Just read his record. He agrees with Bush on everything. He even started fudging on torture a few months back. The old guy’ll do anything, say anything to be president, even bring in a far-right fundie Flat Earther, one of those Agents of Intolerance he used to ridicule not long ago, to be his VP. Amazing. Integrity can be a fleeting thing. The guy’s a mess, he’s desperate to be Pres, no matter what it takes. Boy, that sure instills confidence in his future leadership, doesn’t it? He agrees with Bush on THAT, too.
No more Bush years, please. Don’t use your vote to toss us back where we were. We’re all doing our best just to catch a normal breath after 8 years of the last guy. And the old guy thinks just like him. Please don’t do it to us again.

Woody,
I don’t blame supply side en toto. Many factors have been at work here eg. ill advised deregulation, self-serving politicians, etc. As you say, a balance sheet has two sides. However, I would assert that it is a major factor in our current dilemma.

Samantha
The New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who happens to own Fox “News”.
The story is a lie.

So “Samantha”. You’ve posted the same “story” a number of times here without identifying the source. Can you provide a link to this article?

The facade of government authority is too weak at present for the ruling class to allow McCain to win. This is evidenced by his fellow Republicans beginning to throw him under the bus. The ruling class, it appears, has decided that McCain doesn’t have what it takes to keep the opposition loyal. I for one am glad that we are going to have a black president, and yet, in the end it hardly matters what race our overseer is – we’re still on a plantation after all.

Samantha – the “washington post” is a big entity. Please provide the link to the article so we can all read it.

Chris in Texas,….read the NY Post…google Obama to delay Iraq troop withdrawl.

wade:…yes that does count
Palin said she would cooperate in troopergate and now refuses even after her husband has been subpoenaed.
If it were Barack & Michelle Obama in this mess what would the media and republicans be doing?

Samantha and Debra – thanks I found it. Although I’m wondering why this only appears on the NY Post and FOX News…. Still, something to think about.

I always wondered exactly what McCain meant by ‘country first’. At first, I figured that it signalled a change in the standard Republican position of putting their party before their country, but now I’m not so sure. Does this mean that McCain doesn’t agree with the premise ‘one country under God?’ Thats been in the pledge of alliegance for about fifty years now, does he want to go back to the original?

We are responsible, for whoever we choose as president. If we choose McCain, we should bear responsibility for that choice, if we choose Obama, we should bear responsibility for that choice. So for economy, America’s stand in the world, we would bear responsibilty for whoever we pick as president. If the country gets worse, the economy crashes and we lose our stand in the world as number one because of who we pick as president, its not the president’s fault but ours.

People don’t follow sound bites that the media provides, they are to get an audience. Check into the candidates their voting in the last few years, their policy for the future.
Obama’s tax plan will hurt all people it is sold as more money for the lower and middle class when they too will be paying a much larger portion of their taxes.
Check into things, Obama has no concept of the economy or money – Tony Rezko owns his home. And most things he says he follows McCain.
Change and more of the same, yes that’s what your offering Obama.
Please Americans look into these things with Snopes and your favorite news sources you will learn about the real candidates. Don’t just follow a party, don’t follow a sound bite.
Do what is best for you, your family, your job and your safety.
The economy for the last 4 years is more of a democrat issue than a republican one, since congress has been in democrat controll during that time. A president can only do so much with out level of checks and balances. Can’t point any one person or party, have to make choices overall that help everyone.

I’m tired of Barack whining about how terrible things “are” and how terrible things would be if McCain is elected.
He is a monster, set to slash and burn the likely next President, McCain, as he did to Hillary.
No matter what happens in this election, John McCain’s image will not be tarnished.
Obama’s will forever be in the gutter as a disgusting treason.

Dave that would be a disaster, you would create a dictatorship in that method, you want to be a country like Russia?
Don’t be so silly and naive.

ALASKA LOVES SARAH for the great work she has done reforming government to work for the citizens, and AMERICA IS FALLING IN LOVE WITH SARAH for her genuine sincerity, honesty and brilliant mind.
It is time to recognize that women can do a great job, many times better than men and Sarah Palin’s record shows she is exceptional.
The Obama campaign and the liberal media is in disarray, confused and foaming at the mouth after the Maverick, John McCain chose Sarah Palin, a woman reformer for VP. Their response has been a vicious attack on Sarah ranging from insults to smearing and the sexist tactics that brought Hillary’s campaign crashing down.
Obama fractured and divided the democratic party when he rejected the choice of 18 million democrats and instead of choosing Hillary for VP, he chose an old Washington politician Joe Biden, and by this grave mistake in choice, negated the flag of “change” Obama had been waiving and replaced it with the “more of the same” one.
On the other side, The Maverick stole the mantra of change from Barack when he selected a woman reformer for VP, who has gained the respect of the State she governs as well as of the nation governors.
The McCain/Palin ticket has also given hope to all the 18 million former Hillary supporters who now have a very compelling reason to vote for the republican ticket, as a way to put their country first by electing a president that has the qualifications, experience and love for our country and at the same time elect a woman to the White House as equal partners in governance and leadership of our country.
Country First!
DEMOCRATS FOR McCain/Palin!

Manolete,
Not all of Alaska loves sara palin.
Despite her favorite statement about the plane that she “put on ebay” it didn’t sell on ebay…. and she sold it at a $600,000 loss.
She tries to take credit for stopping the bridge to nowhere, but she only backed down after the bridge drew so much negative publicity and congress stopped it. Oh, and they kept the money for the bridge.
And the chef still cooks for the state…. just not for the governor.
That’s not what I would call a reformer!

I do not think McCain is redefining his idea of economic fundamentals.
the greatest producer the greatest innovator = The American worker and their innovation
their entrepreneurship, the small business = still the greatest economic engine in the world
but I am an optimist, which is why i feel the Democrats will not win. They are tending to be dismal and dreary when it comes to the economy

McCain is actually right on this one…..
If you and your wife own 9 homes and she’s worth 100 million, the fundamentals are always strong.
If your like G.W. Bush and your family has money and they’ve bought your way into everything, the fundamentals are always strong.
If your a CEO and your company has gone bankrupt, 100′s, maybe 1000′s unemployed,
lose your house, health plan, retirement funds,
but you still get your 50 million bonus, the fundamentals are always strong.

Howard
re: “he would change everything that over 200 years of American history and tradition has achieved.”
..in case you haven’t noticed, it only took Bush, Cheney et.al 8 years to bring America to edge of economic collapse. Hell, not even Bin Laden could do that.
re: “Obama talked his followers into believing and submitting to blind faith, ”
now, which Republican candidate for Pres. is it again that’s down on one knee kissing evangelical booty, and which V.P. candidate goes to one of them thar ‘blind faith’ ‘speaking in tongues’ fundamentalist churches in Alaska?
re: “that even if truth and facts are presented to them, they simply refuse to believe it.”
well, here you are correct in summarizing the McCain/Palin campaign attack ads and distorted campaign speeches.
…maybe it’s time to stop trying to recreate some version of a mythological American history and start living in the now, headed for a better future.

Obama is trying to win on fear. He actually used the word “Depression” today when talking about the economy. Anyone who lived through the Depression knows that we’re nowhere near that today. But that aside…
What exactly has Obama done as a member of the U.S. Senate to avert the housing crisis that is pulling our economy down?
And how exactly does he intend to fix our economy without discouraging business growth and entrepreneurship by imposing higher taxes?

old idiot said” …economy, economy fundamentals are strong”.
so , do not screw the nation, old Idiot. You said exactly what You meant – Yes, it is still strong for You, Alphonso, sitting on Cindy’s shoulders with dozen of homes.
Yes, it is strong for You.
Also strong for Pit Bull ,sitting on taxpayuers shoulders with her endless family .
get Out from our Horizon, deletants.

What sez:
(in regard to electing every seat at all levels of government to a Democrat)
Dave that would be a disaster, you would create a dictatorship in that method, you want to be a country like Russia?
Don’t be so silly and naive.
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What,
When GWB won the election and the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress, I had a good Republican friend who was extolling the virtues ‘efficient’ government was going to be.
during the coming administration.
I made the same argument that you just made.