By Natalie Gewargis

Sep 3, 2008 2:46pm

Obama Explains What ‘Country First’ Means to Him

At a town hall meeting in New Philadelphia, Ohio, this afternoon, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was asked about the "Country First" placards all over the GOP convention.

"Let’s understand what is going to be at stake in this election," Obama said. "John McCain’s campaign manager says it’s about personalities, and what he really means is he wants to make this campaign all about biography. And let me say this. I mean, being a POW for six years, it’s extraordinary, I mean, the courage and the resilience that John McCain showed, you know, nobody disputes that — we all honor it.  And we all admire it.

"But for me, and I think for you, the measure of the next president is how effectively is he going to help make your lives better?" Obama continued. "How well is he going to help create new jobs? Does he have any idea about what the new jobs of the future are going to be?  Does he have a sense of how we have to … reform our education system so every child has real opportunity?"

Obama continued in that vein, listing all sorts of domestic issues that need tackling, from health care to the deficit.

Finally, he wrapped it up, saying, "My definition of putting country first is making sure that we are safe, not hesitating to strike against our enemies.  But it also means making our economy strong, because ultimately, if our economy is strong, then our military will be strong, and we will be able to secure our homeland for many years to come."

- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

I want to know one example of how Obama sacrificed for this Country or put the Country First. Just one example. I also want to know why the DNC did not honor the men and woman who are fighting in Ir

Posted by: Obama/Biden = Beltway Business As Usual | September 3, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Bravo!!!!
Excellent Obama!!!

Posted by: vickie | September 3, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Obama is doing much better, since mccain picked Palin. Ive noticed that the non sense about Obama on the Web has subsided. Now the nonsense is about Palin. No one is questioning Obama’s patriotism any longer.

Posted by: Peter | September 3, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Bottom line: do we want 4 more years of Bush tax cuts for the rich, neglected infa-structure (bridges in Minnesota and levees in New Orleans for starters), poor or non-existent health insurance for millions, more money in the pockets of oil interests OR a movement in a new national direction.

Posted by: sophillyfatz | September 3, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

You mean that Ben Stein didn’t say that Alaska is near Russia therefore Palin has foreign policy experience?

Posted by: vickie | September 3, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Obambi looks like an injured fawn. Sad really.

Posted by: FYH | September 3, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Obama who?

Posted by: Brad | September 3, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Quote: I want to know one example of how Obama sacrificed for this Country or put the Country First.
how about running for President to change this mess we are in even when he gets almost daily death threats?
He could have said no to all the Dems who wanted him to run because it’s the safer way, but he cares enough to try and believes in this country enough to try to get it back on track.

Posted by: tinat | September 3, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Ben Stein compared Obama to Hitler. See how two can play that game?

Posted by: Peach | September 3, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

ANY NEW PRESIDENT IS INEXPERIENCE..
That charge of someone NOT experience especially for that position is total crap , it boils down to’ what are the ISSUES and will that President get done in signing off on all of them.
look at the republican platform you can fit their issues on a coin ,
they have zero .they just take your TAX dollars and go start wars which as you can see help ruin our economy.
Barack wants to change course instead of starting unnecessary wars he wants to take that money to fix healthcare , build and fix roads and bridges, fix schools .. the environment, all does investment help create jobs.
Whats the use voting for a president who you perceive with this so call experience governing with FAIL POLICIES like a BUSH.
Because we still will be in the same boat different drivers same car.

Posted by: pxg | September 3, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Obama – instead of entering the lucrative world of high profiled law firms, choose to help the impoverished neighborhoods of Chicago’s south side.
That is a personal sacrifice.
The Dems honor our fighting men and woman by voting for veterans benefits, something that McCain himself can’t claim. Republicans are great at paying lip service but are rarely interested in helping our veterans when it counts.

Posted by: WakeUp 08 | September 3, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Country first? Hah
The only thing Obama puts first is himself.

Posted by: Peach | September 3, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Davis:
Yes, no one will disagree with you that Henry Kissinger could undoubtedly provide excellent tutelage for Sarah Palin on foreign policy.
Maybe Obama would like to sign up for classes as well. But then again, he might have to pay back another student loan….

Posted by: SandyB | September 3, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Obama has already stated that he would put Muslim and Africa’s interest first with his words and actions, Guess he is flip-flopping again. Poor man, he does not know what he believes in any more. He is a scared rabbit looking for a hidy hole while his paid staff and volunteers do the dirty work.
Alaska has over 1/5 of USA land mass and a lot more issues than Obama even can imagine. He runs his mouth, she runs the largest state.

Posted by: Mary | September 3, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

“For the third time in a week, Biden, speaking Wednesday at Harborside Event Center in Ft. Myers, Florida, mixed up battalions and brigades”
Not-ready-to-be-President Joe Biden would send a battalion in to get slaughtered when a brigard is need.

Posted by: geevill | September 3, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Barack Obama voted “present” 128 times while in the Illinois State Senate. In every single instance, the “present” vote was on a controversial piece of legislation. It is clear to me that Barack Obama has been planning his run for the Presidency for a very long time. I have no qualms with that. The man clearly has talents, and his ambitions are understandable. I do have a problem with a person who avoids taking a position that might come back to haunt him at some point in his presidential campaign. In my view, that shows a lack of courage. Instead of actually representing the Illinois citizens who voted for him, Obama used his time in the state Senate as a stepping stone. For all his flaws, John McCain is a man who always takes a stand, whether people agree with him or not. For this reason, I will cast my vote for the McCain-Palin ticket, despite a few reservations regarding McCain’s age and Mrs. Palin’s foreign affairs credentials. There is no perfect presidential ticket. As a Democrat, I must put country first, party second. I will vote to retain a Democratic Congress, but I will not support my own party when it comes to the presidency. The candidate chosen by my fellow Democrats is far too flawed to suit me.

Posted by: Loyal Dem | September 3, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Both Obama and Biden are dangerously unqualified. neither one knows a brigade from a battalion from a hole in the ground.

Posted by: geevill | September 3, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Obama wants to discuss issues.
McCain want to tell stories about himself.
That is this election in a nutshell.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

geevil
mccain never has mixed up words… i bet you excuse mccains mix ups… so why cant you excuse bidens?
You know what he meant… or are you ready to say we should take what everyone says at face value?
if so… mccain is going to explode in a gaffe a minute mess and plain err palin doesnt seem to be any better

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 3, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

I know what it means to him: “You all are racists unles you vote for me.”

Posted by: irma | September 3, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

obama didnt take the high powered job on wall street, he decided to help the families of chicago
and when hadnt the dnc honored the men and women in our military?
oh you mean they didnt parade around like the gop last night and talk about how if we dont elect mccain we will be inundated with terrorist attacks and we will all die in fire and brimstone?
no thanks, thats not honor thats scar tactics…
i implore you to watch any night of the dem convention they talk about our men and women with respect, they arent using them as political clout

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 3, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

obama/biden=beltway, etc. – not everyone is a military person. Kudos to McCain for his service but maybe the best thing he could do for his country right now is to retire. The last thing I want in a president is a cowboy mentality with a trigger finger. He’ll get us into WWIII faster than you could possibly imagine. The guy’s got a hot temper and no diplomatic skills. Besides which, he and Palin want to shove their religious beliefs down our throats. No thank you.

Posted by: cat on a hot tin roof | September 3, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Obama wants to be the first (HALF) black President. This is one black vote he won’t get.

Posted by: irma | September 3, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Obama is so fake everytime he speaks, with or without the teleprompter.

Posted by: young_voter | September 3, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Joe Biden would be a heartbeat away from the presidency -and this babbling fool has no clue what a brigade is?

Posted by: geevill | September 3, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Thousands of volunteers have signed up voters under the shield of League for Women Voters from, way back in the 50s and 60s. Most of these people were high school, college students and young workers who did not get paid. Obama’s talk about his being a community volunteer take the same level of intelligence as a high school sophmore. His bragging about that work is ridicilous.
Obama is for only one person, Obama.

Posted by: Mary | September 3, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

My how our grandfather’s Republican party has changed. To me, Sarah Palin parading around her pregnant teenage daughter in front of the entire country just proves the hypocrisy of Republican ideaology. Certainly a prime example of failed policies in education, proving once again that teaching abstinence only to teenagers at home and in school does not work. This example proves it, and the data which Republicans continue to ignore also proves it, as does the scientific evidence for evolution. Even the Catholic Church believes in evolution, having learned their lesson with Galileo. If this woman gets elected and should become president, our schools will be in so much more trouble. These people will not stop until we are only allowed to teach the old testament in school.Her family choices will be your family choices, and the only choice. It is a sad day in America when Republicans can use their spin to claim that this woman has as much ‘experience’ as a Harvard Law graduate who taught constitutioal law and has been a senator, compared to her being a governor of a state with a population that amounts to a small city is laughable. To see her grinning over the corpse of a magnificent caribou, bloodied and with an obvious look of agony on it’s face makes me sick. Her environmental record is horrible. The only reason in my mind anyone would vote Republican this year is because they do not like the color of Obamas skin. Plain and simple. This nomination has made me so angry I am going down right now to volunteer for Obama’s campaign.

Posted by: Patricia Shulman | September 3, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Palin with zero foreign policy experience and barely a term as a public servant would be a heart beat away from the presidency….
talk about scary
when asked about the war in iraq she said she didnt think much about it…
oh man, and after all this talk about how experience is needed as the president and vice president mccain sure undercut his main attack vein

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 3, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

I can’t wait for the debates. Another question that takes Obama 10 minutes to answer McCain will answer in 10 seconds.

Posted by: geevill | September 3, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

“Barack Obama voted “present” 128 times while in the Illinois State Senate. In every single instance, the “present” vote was on a controversial piece of legislation”
First off, “present” in the IL state legislature counts as a no vote.
Its a means for legislators to signal objections to a bill without voting no on it. Then the Gov of IL can make changes and send it back.
Roughly 45 of those votes were about tactical skirmishes between Republicans and Democrats over budget issues.
By contrast John McCain has not even bothered to vote nearly 64% of the time this legislative session. Even Tim Johnson has missed less votes and he was out with a stroke for months.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Neither Abraham Lincoln nor Bill Clinton knew about military groups when they were swarn in. Yet, one was the best President this country has ever seen and the other gave us the biggest economic boost this country has ever seen. George Bush, on the other hand, knew about the military (even though he was AWOL) and he gave us the largest debt in human history, two wars (one unnecessary) and a broken economy. I guess knowing the difference between a brigade and a batallion really doesn’t mean that much when there are bigger problems facing the world.

Posted by: algwriter | September 3, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Dozens of long time Dems were community organizing long before and after BsO’s short stint at doing it for his; “I want to be first (HALF) black Pres.” resume.

Posted by: irma | September 3, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

I can’t wait for the debates. Another question that takes Obama 10 minutes to answer McCain will answer in 10 seconds.”
Works for me.
The deliberate statesman vs the hothead impulsive.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

OBAMA wants to discuss issues, and MCCAIN wants to talk about himself???
I think you have these two mixed up as badly as Biden had battalions and brigades confused!!!!!!

Posted by: SandyB | September 3, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

The name Barack Obama surfaced. “I was asking around among community activists in Chicago and around the country, and they kept mentioning him,” Newman says. Obama by then was working with church and community leaders on the West Side, and he was writing a book that the publisher Simon & Schuster had contracted for while he was editor of the law review. He was 30 years old.
When Newman called, Obama agreed to put his other work aside. “I’m still not quite sure why,” Newman says. ”This was not glamorous, high-paying work. But I am certainly grateful. He did one hell of a job.”
Within a few months, Obama, a tall, affable workaholic, had recruited staff and volunteers from black churches, community groups, and politicians. He helped train 700 deputy registrars, out of a total of 11,000 citywide.
…”It was overwhelming,” says Joseph Gardner, a commissioner of the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District and the director of the steering committee for Project Vote! “The black community in this city had not been so energized and so single-minded since [Chicago Mayor Harold Washington] died.”
Burrell agrees. “We were registering hundreds a day, and we weren’t having to search them out. They came looking for us. African Americans were just so eager to have a say again, to feel they counted.”

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Hmmmmmm
Its seems McCain has had to return over $7,500,000 in campaign contributions.
In contrast, Obama has had to return $1.5M
Which begs the question, of why does McCain receive so much dirty money?

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Jake,
Write this down. Tomorrow morning some GOP members will feint outrage for Obama downplaying the service of John McCain to his country.

Posted by: Lance D. | September 3, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Like Obama’s clean Rezko money. Meanwhile all the community organizing he was doing for his resume, didn’t help the Chicago slum residents.

Posted by: irma | September 3, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

Obama says…
“My definition of putting country first is making sure that we are safe, not hesitating to strike against our enemies.”
How?
“I will slow our development of future combat systems. ..I will not weaponize space ..and I will not develop new nuclear weapons..” – Obama 2008.
So, we’ll strike back how exactly? with Hope and Change? Words?

Posted by: Norman | September 3, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

“Obama wants to discuss issues.”
Obama wants to say there are issues with his opponents and only he can solve them. Then he moves on. It’s a shaggy dog story.
“McCain want to tell stories about himself.”
It’s always good to talk about what you know. Obama wants to talk about things he has never done but will do if we elect him him. If we can afford him, he might even try.
“That is this election in a nutshell.”
That is a nut wanting an election without a shell… or an exxon… or a british petroleum.

Posted by: len | September 3, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Laura McGann brought word from Alaska yesterday that Palin had, in her own words, pooh-poohed her own executive experience, mocking it as “not rocket science.” Strangely, for all the “not rocket science” nature of the work, Palin was unique among Wasilla mayors in that she still needed help. As ProgressiveAlaska notes: “…when Palin was first elected mayor…in 1996, she had to hire a city manager. When her predecessors had occupied the office, they did that job themselves. There went $60,000 per year.” (Much more on that via Andrew Sullivan.)
The whole attempt at contrasting Palin as someone who stands up to “oil producers” is similarly baffling, considering that McCain’s been broadly signaling that his presidency will be a drill-crazy bonanza for the oil industry.

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 3, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

chris
irma isnt an obama supporter…

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 3, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

“Which begs the question, of why does McCain receive so much dirty money?”
Because Obama has employed all the money launderers?

Posted by: len | September 3, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

I listen to the media and I can’t believe that this is the so called news. This sexist garbage seems like it should be in a tabloid. I am embarrassed to be affiliated with democrats this year. My wife, my mother and I have always voted for Democrats but this year we are all voting republican.

Posted by: Lance | September 3, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Should the voters’ perception that this country is on the wrong track attributed more to Bush’s personality or to how well his administration or the Congress has fulfilled their jobs?

Posted by: Julian | September 3, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

republican tactic #1
when facing scrutiny for something blame someone else for doing it and then call into question their patriotism

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 3, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Obama continued. “How well is he going to help create new jobs? Does he have any idea about what the new jobs of the future are going to be?
yes, I want to believe that he can deliver, but tell me one thing that he has done in the past that will ensure me that he delivers results!
Only, Sarah Palin has some results to show and that’s what I want to see

Posted by: Frieda | September 3, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

the fact that obama does not outright advocate the extreme conduct of MANY of his supporters who employ racist and sexist behaviors on his behalf does not mean that he doesn’t allow it or that it does not benefit him by way of intimidation…..the repetitive instances of disrespect, malicious accusations and implications as conducted by obama’s campaign and his supporters only further supports the realty that his campaign does his dirty work for him, and even more so the more prevalent and pervasive it becomes…….one time is a mistake, twice may be a coincidence….more then that (like his associations with questionable characters), and it deserves to be a question of credibility and character…

Posted by: chris | September 3, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Obama; It means I get to be the first black pres. Anyone who doesn’t vote for me is a racist. “Some won’t vote for me because I am not of a certain pedigree. Oh, Ok, I get it.” One of Obama’s inspirational messages to insight. In his acceptance speech of his nomination.

Posted by: irma | September 3, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

bhrandon….absolutely, mccain’s an idiot with a hot temper…..that doesn’t excuse obama’s minions and lemmings from being equally vicious and hateful and disrespectful to all who don’t blindly follow him…..

Posted by: chris | September 3, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

“Obama wants to discuss issues.
McCain want to tell stories about himself.
That is this election in a nutshell.”
Obama talks about how he will be bipartisan to unify the country.
JM gives one example after another where he HAS been bipartisan in suggesting solutions.
Obama has twice said he is not afraid to debate JM anytime, anywhere.
JM has asked for 10 townhall debates where all questions are answered and four regular debates. Obama refuses to show and will not pick any more than 2 debates at most under strict conditions.
Obama is not afraid to talk with America’s enemies without preconditions. He refused to attend a debate because it was sponsored by Fox TV.
What courage !

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 3, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Obama; It means I get to be the first black pres. Anyone who doesn’t vote for me is a racist. “Some won’t vote for me because I am not of a certain pedigree. Oh, Ok, I get it.” One of Obama’s inspirational messages to insight. In his acceptance speech of his nomination.
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please give me the link to those actual words…. please

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 3, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Chris,
You realize when your ascribing the power to Obama to control what every supporters says sounds like lunacy right?
At least Obama has called for civility.
Your candidate John McCain (let’s call it what it is and stop pretending that you support Hillary in any way shape or form) says I;m no referee.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Please, please, please play “Barracuda” when Gov. Palin takes the stage.

Posted by: jose | September 3, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Obama is always a smooth talker. No surprise there. Has he ever done anything to prove himself? None, I think.

Posted by: george | September 3, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

seems that one influential and important representative cares more about the color of the skin of the President, then the content of his character: “Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him (Rep. Emanuel Cleaver) “if it comes down to the last day and you’re the only superdelegate? … Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?”

Posted by: chris | September 3, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

“Some won’t vote for me because I am not of a certain pedigree. Oh, Ok, I get it.” BsO’s inspirational message meant to manipulate all the black brothers and sisters to vote for him. Not this black sister. I knew the Clintons weren’t racists, even though BsO and his TIMEWARNER contributors helped to push that in order for him to be selected by paid delegates. Now his trolls are calling even black people racist. Yeah, that’s the FAKE we know.

Posted by: irma | September 3, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

I am a 20+ year war veteran. My spouse has never served but she does more things in the United States (community helper, volunteering in nursing homes, partaking in our children school as well as other children education, to name a few) than what I have done for my country. Does that mean she didn’t serve her country? Has any one on this blog ever served in a combat arena? And if you did, please explain to me what is so beautiful fighting a war? The man (Obama) is right about McCain. Serving in the military only does not mean that you serve your country. I believe sometimes that most of you (republican’s trolls) love war and hate peace and are very racist towards Obama or fear the word CHANGE.
I will give another example of serving one country first. Choose a sport that you like very much and think each player on the team has a role on the team. For me, a basketball team consists of 5 players playing offense and defense. Each player has a distinct role on the court but they played as one. America is the same. Each one of us has a different role but play for the same team (America). The problem is not the team. The problem is the coach. Time is changing and players around the world are changing. You need a new Coach to coach the team that deals with a world that ever changing every minute.
I hope most people on this blog get the point…..

Posted by: chris | September 3, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Amazing, the GOP hacks are becoming so desperate they are making silly things up.
I think they can smell the stale old odor of defeat lingering throughout the country.

Posted by: Desperate GOP FOOLS | September 3, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Make race your sole purpose for winning when other issues are on the table, except you have no experience, not much more than most LONG TIME DEM VOLUNTEERS, no real solutions (except when you rip them off of the candidates you bully out, makes people cringe. Especially the people who know your goal is to manipulate them for votes. When that doesn’t work, have the kids, cuss them out, distort the character of people they don’t know in order to intimidate opposition…I don’t want BsO’s America. Bill Clinton and Hillary were the REAL MESSAGE OF HOPE NOT OBUMMER.

Posted by: irma | September 3, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

ryan, i appreciate your karl-rovian attempts to transfer my support for Senator Clinton, whom you obviously recognize as the superior candidate above mccain and obama, to become support for mccain, because it is easier for you to create an argument against a supporter for mccain, which i can appreciate because, as a supporter of Clinton, i already know she would easily destroy him in the general election, whereas right now, average polling in the states would possibly give mccain the White House via the electoral college….but the fact that you are unable to argue against me and the points i have made, albeit in numerous posts, only points to the lack of content you have at your quick disposal to argue FOR obama instead of AGAINST mccain, which is irrelevant anyhow, because, as you know but your intimidated intellect conveniently refuses to admit, I support Senator Clinton, because, unlike you apparently and the many who don’t support her, I want the best President for my family

Posted by: chris | September 3, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Then the issue is “can Obama deliver?” He has done nothing demonstrate he can — his affordable housing projects, 11 defunct Rezko projects in his own district.
Obama can really blow a big balloon about all the kind of things he wants to do, but when it comes to record of really get things done, his balloon is busted. Palin in fact has real records of achievements.
McCain can say, if we are still using the corrupt political machine, then nothing can be done. So, it is about reform! If McCain-Palin can really convey this message, I think they will win.

Posted by: amy | September 3, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

If the personality issue had been successfully defined as hothead vs. thoughtful uniter, Obama might have favored raising it.

Posted by: Julian | September 3, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Ohbama puts “country first”….followed
by gangsta rap, with Gaelic fife music
a distant third.

Posted by: grizzly bare | September 3, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Country first! I just stumble upon this, and thought it was worth sharing:
Some sanity here from Mark DeMoss, former chief of staff to Jerry Falwell and now a leading Christian public relations executive:
“Too many evangelicals and religious conservative are too preoccupied with values and faith and pay no attention to competence. We don’t apply this approach to anything else in life, including choosing a pastor.” Imagine, he said, if a church was searching for a pastor and the leadership was brought a candidate with great values but little experience. “They’ve been a pastor for two years at a church with 150 people but he shares our values, so we hired him to be pastor of our 5,000 person church? It wouldn’t happen! We don’t say, ‘He shares our values, so let’s hire him.’ That’s absurd. Yet we apply that to choosing presidents. It blows my mind.”…

Posted by: Lance D. | September 3, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

just for the record, condi rice is a mindless drone who makes no apologies for her contributions to the worst administration in the history of the U.S., thus disqualifying her for any position of authority which would place others in harm’s way…

Posted by: chris | September 3, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

“Obama continued in that vein, listing all sorts of domestic issues that need tackling, from health care to the deficit.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 3, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

geevill, perhaps you could enlighten us by explaining each of the following:
squad, platoon, company, battery, battalion, brigade, army. I’d be interested in hearing your explanation.

Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Obama, ‘Country first’ means don’t attack McCain, don’t think you are aways right and McCain always wrong, means you should work with Rep., means you should cross party line.

Posted by: golfgirlusa | September 3, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

“Does he have a sense of how we have to … reform our education system so every child has real opportunity?”
I understand Obama is experienced in reforming education in Chicago. How come we haven’t heard a work about it?
Stanley Kurtz, please enlighten us.

Posted by: geevill | September 3, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

I’m always struck by how mean spirited that people can be. The choice in this election is clear! So get off the computer and get out there and work on behalf of your candidate. I have a question 8 years ago when republicans took over we were in pretty good shape economically, we were respected around the world, and unemployment was low and we didn’t have a mortgage crisis why do deserve a second chance? You ran this country into the ground!

Posted by: Rory | September 3, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Chris,
Nothing Rovian about it.
Your claims of supporting Hillary (when she is no longer even running as a candidate) while slagging Obama at every term just aren’t credible.
That you realized in the last day or so you should throw in a dig or two at Republicans doesn’t change that.
I’m sure its been fun to pretend but now its time to just take the mask off.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

It’s interesting that he has to define his patriotism… like everything else about him it’s nice rhetoric but backed up by what exactly?

Posted by: diamond lou | September 3, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

“It’s interesting that he has to define his patriotism”
Yes its a shame the Republicans are such a pathetic lot that they equate a flag pin with being a patriot.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

My problem is that I’m socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I’ve always believed that less government means less intrusion on our social lives.
Conservative Republicans don’t seem to see the hypocrisy of wanting small government, but also wanting the government to control abortion, marriage and impose religion on the public.
The Libertarian party is probably closest to what I fit into, except they take everything to such an extreme that it is hard to get behind them. They just aren’t pragmatic (no, privatizing roads is not a good idea).
That leaves the Democrats. I disagree with them on a number of fiscal issues including the idea that I should pay for the health care of someone who abuses their body with drugs and alcohol. However, looking over the past Democratic administrations, there hasn’t been any policies they’ve actually implemented that are giant red flags to me. The biggest red flag, the Department of Homeland Security, is a Republican creation and since I believe the larger an organization gets, the less efficient it becomes, I see this this as the worst thing that has been done in two decades.
So I’ll either vote Barr or Obama. McCain isn’t even an option.

Posted by: johnTX | September 3, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

I think BsO’s wife Michelle took care of that earlier in the campaign. Why is he bringing this up again for us to remember?

Posted by: irma | September 3, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

So when did Obama start with the “don’t hesitate striking our enemies” language? It doesn’t sound like him.

Posted by: mhhunt | September 3, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

No a bad speech. While we have problems ( we always have, for proof look at what Biden was saying in 1988)we are moving along. The economy is doing well for most, there were 17 million first time home buyers in the last 7 or 8 years, prior to the meltdown where some of them no doubt lost them, health insurance roles are on the increase and no attacks since 911. Given the massive losses after 911, the hurricanes and overseas aid we have done really well. But we sure are in debt!!

Posted by: david | September 3, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

“Obama, ‘Country first’ means don’t attack McCain,”
Yes, we got the memo. McCain cannot be criticized for anything because he was a POW.
Meanwhile “Country First” just picked someone he barely knew or vetted as his successor a right winger popular with the base.
He’s a war vet who has suffered multiple lingering injuries and is a multiple skin cancer survivor who is the oldest nominee to seek office.
Country first? Or Campaign first?

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Interesting post John TX. The problem with the health care system right now is that we are already paying for people not covered by insurance. Until we do something, through the private sector, to get the uninsured covered we will never be able to control costs. I have a 25 year old son who worked very hard every day as a carpenter for a company that did not provide health insurance. I prayed every day that he did not fall off a roof or something. Thankfully he is now working for a different employer and is covered. When he got the flu or an ear infection, he had to tough it out–could not go to a doctor. Thankfully my wife and I have insurance. She just had a hip replacement. Cost: $58,000! This HAS to be addressed soon.

Posted by: Doc DB | September 3, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

“I think BsO’s wife Michelle took care of that earlier in the campaign. Why is he bringing this up again for us to remember?”
Ha!

Posted by: Mack | September 3, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Irma. There is only one person on this board right now, making BO’s skincolor a HUGE issue.
That person is you. In every post you’ve posted today, you focused on his skincolor.
Is that what the McCain campaing manager meant when he said he didn’t want this election to focus on issues, but instead on ‘personalities’ and ‘biography’?
We have already voted in a Bush who was selected on his ‘personality’, somebody you wanted to have a beer with, remember?
What they didn’t tell you back then that is was *you* who had to pay for the beer – for Bush and his entire circle of friends – out of your own wallet.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 3, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Chris – Your coach analogy works well, if you find someone who can literally work with all the players to get things done. I’ve seen McCain over the years work with business leaders, citizens, military, government bureaucrats, and govt officials on both sides of the aisle. He’s been able to find compromises, create win-wins, and often fight the hard fight with egos and ids. Where’s Obama’s “coaching” success?

Posted by: Coach | September 3, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

Chris, your 3:48 post made a very good point. It takes the whole team playing together to win a game. To solve our country’s problems it will take us to unite to solve them. That’s where Obama shines, in his ability to unite Americans of very different ages and backgrounds to work together, as evidenced by his campaign as well as legislation he passed.
I am so confused by many of the Repub bloggers who express real hatred for Obama and/or Democrats. Surely they realize the Dems are almost half of our country’s citizens? Should you be hating your neighbors? It is unchristian-like as well as unpatriotic. After all, loving your country isn’t about only loving the real estate but loving the people who live here, too. Soldiers go to war and fight together, Repubs and Dems and Independents. Here at home we should follow their example and not be divisive.
As for the article, Obama is more than correct about a strong economy being important to the strength of a nation. McCain can only focus on fear of terrorism as a reason to elect him because he doesn’t understand how much the people are suffering and he doesn’t know how to help the economy in a way that wouldn’t offend any of his big corporate and rich folk donors.
Obama’s proposals to help the economy and ordinary citizens are intelligent and well-thought out.

Posted by: Lydia | September 3, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

“That’s where Obama shines, in his ability to unite Americans of very different ages and backgrounds to work together, as evidenced by his campaign as well as legislation he passed. ‘
You’re kidding right? Did you see Joe Lieberman’s speech? Barry has no history of working with anyone besides his own party. How do you think he won the most liberal Senator title.

Posted by: Mack | September 3, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

“Where’s Obama’s “coaching” success? ”
Coaching is above his pay grade.

Posted by: Mack | September 3, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

“we always have, for proof look at what Biden was saying in 1988″
and Joe Biden done what the past 20 years except serve as Senate paperweight?

Posted by: geevill | September 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

David: “health insurance roles are on the increase”
Those are 2007 figures, before the current economic downfall.
And that slight increase was due to an increase in government health care such as Medicare or coverage for children. Not private health insurance.
The total of 45.7 million uninsured is still way higher than the 39.8 million without coverage when the Bush administration assumed power.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Peach,
If fond of Ben Stein watch Larry King Live Aug 25 and see him call this administration the worst ever. Some Larson guy has 12 reasons for not backing McCain yet. Both Rep backers.

Posted by: tony | September 3, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Mack,
I don’t hear Obama coming to the defense of Lieberman while little Barry’s surrogates plan their “punishment”.

Posted by: geevill | September 3, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

“Why are tough questions asked of every single candidate except Barack Obama?”
Don’t be ridiculous. News organisations have flown all over the world to Indonesia and Kenya to try to get incriminating information. They have scrutinized every legislation he has ever voted on, or not voted on, or voted present, or skipped. Not only in the US Senate but also the State Senate.
They’ve scrutinized every interview he has ever given, every speeach he has ever given.
His birthcertificate has been viewed under a microscope and they have used every plugin in Photoshop to detect ‘fraud’. We know everything there is to know about his father, his mother, his grandparents, his aunts, his half-brothers, his half-sisters, his neighbours, past and present. We even know that he is related to Cheney.
We know that he likes to eat arugula and drink orange juice for breakfast.
We know what his neighbours do for a living and their biography, who his fellow boardmembers are on every board he ever sat on, what they do for a living and their biography.
I could go on and on and on and on. It doesn’t reach the level of scrutiny right now that Palin is undergoing.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 3, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Of course Obama loves America. He said so. Has he ever lied to us before?
And Michelle isn’t bitter and angry. That’s all in your head. Now shut up and pass the kool-aid.

Posted by: marylou | September 3, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Mack: “How do you think he won the most liberal Senator title”
Given by a conservative group after Obama had won the nomination. When Hillary had won the nomination, they somehow had miraculously found that Hillary was by FAR the most liberal Senator.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 3, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

I keep hearing comments about Obama’s alleged lack of experience and accomplishments.
Could someone PLEASE tell me what John McCain has accomplished during his 26 years in the Senate?

Posted by: Lou | September 3, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Another vacuous cloud of words from Obama… We all know he is good with his mouth, but he has never actually done what he says he will do. He has been a cautious, party- line junior Senator who has spent most of his single term in office running for higher office. He has always put himself first.

Posted by: Nancy | September 3, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Willem van Oranje,
Not only was that ranking given by a conservative group, it was also a conservative organization that compiled the form that was used to create the “report card”.

Posted by: Lou | September 3, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

Nancy,
What has John McCain accomplished during his 26 years in the Senate?

Posted by: Lou | September 3, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

I’m just hoping that McCain can use his power and influence to stall the Palin investigation until AFTER the election.

Posted by: blip | September 3, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Words, just empty words – they don’t impress me! I don’t trust the man – he has flip-flopped and reinvented himself so many times, I really have no idea who the real BHO is! All I do know is that he is not fit to be pres., and if he does win, it will be another 4 years of W, and by that I mean you ain’t getting what you voted for!

Posted by: Beckie | September 3, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

LOL. Peggy Noonan & Mike Murphy are caught on an open mike calling Plain unqaulified characterizing this move as political bs!

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Whose lives has Obama ever made better besides his own?
Certainly not that village in Africa he promised to aid.

Posted by: drjohn | September 3, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

National Enquirer is running a Palin affair story.
Ya know the source the RW called credible in in the wake of its Edward scoop!

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

Obama is so ignorant! Look at in the newspaper today about school in Chicago, his home town, what he has been doing to make his school district to be a better school…. he doesn’t care. He send his children to private school. He never know our problem because Obama is elite and a big mouth!
A Big mouth will not help us to solve the problems in our country!

Posted by: Bond | September 3, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

Conservative pundits are LIVID!!!!
Bwahahaha.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 3, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Oy, Ryan heard it too.
This is Comedy Gold

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 3, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Willem,
They are mad because everyone was putting on their braves faces talking up Palin.
Now they ALL look phony.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

McCain’s campaign manager Rick Davis told Washington Post editors Tuesday – “This election is not about issues,” Davis said. “This election is about a composite view of what people take away from these candidates.”
I wonder McCain puts his campaign first, not the country first.

Posted by: GT | September 3, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Obama in your city there is an issue about school… what have you been contribute to make school in your city better? NONE!

Posted by: mulutbesar | September 3, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Has there been a worse public relations fiasco than the McCain campaign in the last few weeks?
First he goes into seclusion following his houses gaffe, interviewing only with Leno.
Then he picks Palin at which point we have dozens of PR gaffes.
It begins with the very last minute nature of the selection and its coming so soon before the convention with the pick being a virtual unknown commodity. What did you think the press was gonna do McCain, dutifully report your talking points? You can only count on Fox for that.
Then we have a dozen or so ridiculous inflations of her credentials and story line that are quickly debunked.
Then we have a twofer in ridiculous PR.
1) In response to leftwing blog talk that Palin is not the mother of her youngest child, the campaign decides to respond by announcing Palin;s daughters pregnancy. Let me repeat, because of crazy talk on the internet the McCain campaign response was to admit the daughter was pregnant.
2) Then instead of ignoring a National Enqurier story they decide to immediately denounce it before it even runs. They just gave the story legs to be discussed even from a denial standpoint.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

Concerned Voter.
The contrast between both Democrats and Republicans is clear. The questions we ask of our candidates are important like their judgment – Americans have a right to take a close look at McCain’s choice of VP who is a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
I can see why people are not inspired by McCain’s choice this was McCain running to the right, which left out the rest of America.
What doesn’t inspire us is the Republicans are going after the media on this. We are talking about the mainstream media who are asking the questions that are on our minds about the decision making process of McCain.

Posted by: Concerned Voter | September 3, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Here’s an example of Obama putting Country First: When he finished Harvard, he went to work in the south side of Chicago helping to find adequate jobs and housing for the middle and lower class residents. Obama has done more good than McCain.
You people are funny. This administration didn’t put Country First when they issued contracts for war products to foreign countries and left Americans without jobs. How about Hurricane Katrina 3 years ago? Was that Country First?
Today, President Bush announced $1 billion in new economic aid to Georgia to help it rebuild after Russia’s invasion. How the hell is that Country First?

Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | September 3, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Frieda -
Regarding job creation…unemployment in Alaska has risen under Governor Palin.
What again is the McCain/Palin ticket going to do about creating the jobs of the future? She can’t give every American a rebate check funded by Big Oil.

Posted by: Amy T | September 3, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

“President Bush announced $1 billion in new economic aid to Georgia to help it rebuild after Russia’s invasion. How the hell is that Country First?”
Yes, that’s what you said after the Russians left Afghanistan. The cities collapsed, the tribal chiefs took over, then the Taliban made a deal with bin Ladin. A decade later, 9/11.
Please become smarter. You vote. It really matters that you understand what being a world power is about. That is what putting Country First means: to put the welfare of the country ahead of the party. If you are in a party of hate and the Great Get Even, putting the country first means you cross lines and vote for the other candidate.
With every post like that I see from the Obama camp, I am more convinced that McCain/Palin is not just the right choice, but that there is no other choice.

Posted by: len | September 3, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

I’m signed up and ready to vote 2008…
but but there is no one trustworthy,that isn’t bought, that REALLY cares what happens to US citizens…it’s a shame that a country far away GEORGIA has more value and deserves tons of monies that USA’s citizens could use! My goodness…it’s getting so all politician’s think alike regardless what they promise…

Posted by: doloresn | September 3, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

“Regarding job creation…unemployment in Alaska has risen under Governor Palin.”
UNEMPLOYMENT HAS RISEN ALL OVER OUR BELOVED COUNTRY; you can’t blame Sarah for it all!

Posted by: america-centric | September 3, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

“I understand Obama is experienced in reforming education in Chicago. How come we haven’t heard a work about it?”
Well it works this way:
You raise the sales tax and property taxes as H I G H as you possibly can.
You take earmarks to use for your church, and to be used as Michele’s boss’s ” incentive” to raise high her annual income.
etc. etc. etc..
and then……
You take your kids out of the public schools, and enroll them in private schools!

Posted by: america-centric | September 3, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Len,
Well said regarding the collapse of Afghanistan and our role in the world.
Though you should know on the other post that deals with Georgia and Obama meeting their Prez, its McCain fans slagging Obama for the billion.
Such is politics.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 3, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Obama”s relationship with William ayers will undermine his current popularity with American voters that will vote for the best person, rather than the party. I am a democrat , going over to the conservative McCain side. His Caracter can-not be questioned. His love for our country nearly killed him. and his reballius maveryck side is a good thing to have in his resume, when it comes to dealing with our enemy.

Posted by: eddie p. | September 3, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

And Obama just want to tell us all the things that is wrong with us and America and everry thing, and all the evils of capitalisum, like the evils of owning seven houses etc. And the greatness of comunisum is, you can not own houses , land or your bussines, every body is equally poor.And you will need a permit to travel from Chicago to Detroit.

Posted by: Walter | September 3, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

I gotta hand it to McCain. He is undertaking a herculean effort trying to change the Republican Party with his ‘County First’ campaign. The republicans have been putting their party first for so many years, I dont think he can pull it off. If he can, more power to him, but I doubt it -

Posted by: Mike | September 3, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Palin has only been governor for twenty months, hardly enough time to gain a lot of executive experience or to have proven her leadership works. Wake up, people, her biggest contributors to her campaign were the oil companies. They aren’t giving their money away for nothing.

Posted by: Lydia | September 3, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

William Van Oranje: I know what an idiot Bush was and watched in horror as the same media that is pushing Obama pushed for BUSH. THAT’s enough for me to NOT trust their sell. Don’t you worry, I never voted for Bush just as I won’t vote for Obama. Obama brought his race in again in his acceptance speech. I am quoting HIM saying: “Some won’t vote for me because I am not of a certain pedigree. Oh, ok, I get it.” I know exactly what he is trying to imply and his manipulations don’t work. He tried to tear down the Clintons because they were loved in the black community. He brought his race in, he ran on image and now he is accusing another candidate of doing what he is guilty of. I can’t and I won’t cast my long time DEMOCRAT vote for him.

Posted by: irma | September 3, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

Palin:
1. Husband 5 year member of the AIP whose sole purpose is to break away from the United States. Although S.Palin was never a “member” and just attended the convention, her husband was an ACTIVE member.
2. Why do people keep comparing Obama with Palin? Isn’t Obama/McCain and Palin/Biden?? Is the reason we are comparing them is because of the experience factor? We can all agree that both of them lack a certain amount of experience. BUT it wasn’t the Democrats who were whining about a lack of experience…it was the Republicans. The constant question put to the Republicans is “Was Sara Palin the absolute BEST republican VP pick” and when asked this, they ALWAYS revert back to Obama.
3. Please remember this when it comes to the experience factor: Obama made it to the Presidential nomination by the VOTERS and Palin made it by the voice of ONE person. That means that after taking Obama’s lack of experience under consideration, the VOTERS of America decided that he could do the job.
4. I just want to say that I LOVE the way the Republicans say that S. Palin and her daughter made a CHOICE to continue the pregnancy and that she herself made a CHOICE to keep her baby. If they are Pro-Life…what was there to discuss?

Posted by: Darlene | September 4, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

EARMARKING:
I urge anyone who has access to the Los Angeles Times newspaper for September 3, 2008 to read the article written about Sara Palin and her record with “Earmarking”. Very interesting. Her paper record and what she is currently saying (especially about the Bridge to Nowhere) are more than a little different.

Posted by: Darlene | September 4, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

@ryan: “Though you should know on the other post that deals with Georgia and Obama meeting their Prez, its McCain fans slagging Obama for the billion. Such is politics.”
Too bad. That’s wrong. What we learned after WWI is that if you leave a nation in ruins, what emerges is a hate-filled nationalism that spreads like a disease. After WWII people objected to the Marshall Plan, but it is the foundation of the success of the European economy today which otherwise would have gone to the communists by default. Sadly it has slipped into deep socialism but the horse can only be led to the water to repeat a cliche.
And that is what we face here, Ryan. Understand, I was a Democrat until the left wing whack jobs who like a vodka with a twist more than a day on the job took over the party and destroyed its best chance of winning by jiggering the delegates and launching attacks on its best candidate. No way is that leadership I can believe in. I’m not sold on the Republicans, but I do believe that John McCain is a man of honor and that Sarah Palin is the best thing that has happened in this election.
It’s a screwy election, no doubt, but I have to go for the candidates I can identify with and who talks about the things I care about and believe they can deliver. It’s beginning to look like the unthinkable is thinkable: a minority President with a majority Congress. Deal.

Posted by: len | September 4, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

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