Obama Finds Curious McCain’s Plea to Reduce Partisan Rancor
In Indiana today, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., expressed bemusement at Sen. John McCain’s nomination acceptance speech.
"I have to say, when John McCain says in his speech that he wants to reduce the rancor in Washington … and I’m thinking, ‘Did you pay attention to the last two days of your convention?’" Obama asked.
"I mean, What? Were you not, were you not watching?" Obama continued. "Did they not get the memo?
"You know, there’s got to be some consistency in how you approach these things," Obama said, "There’s nothing wrong with a vigorous debate because the parties have very real differences. But when it starts getting personal, when you start just focusing exclusively on trying to tear the other person down instead of what you are going to do on behalf of the American people to deal with this economy, then that’s not serving Democrats, that’s not serving Republicans, that’s not serving anybody and that’s the kind of politics we want to put to an end when I’m President of the United States."
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Posted by: E done | September 6, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Republicans really do think that Americans are stupid and their campaign strategies are consistently based on this idea.
Sadly, they may be right.
Posted by: John | September 6, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
A little off topic but I have a question. If McCain and Palin are getting big crowds together and bigger than McCain alone, how are they ever going to split up? If they split up will Palin get 15,000 and McCain 1,500 and how will that look? Doesn’t this hamstring them?
Posted by: Mary | September 6, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
ROFLMAO
Obama is the one who started his Campaign on Vulgar, evil and vile smear tactics and attacking all of his opponents.
From day one to present.
Evidents is in every debate, every speech, every statement, every ad.
Now he chooses to try to pawn off and pretend he is mister nice guy with his propaganda.
Surely he is joking around.
Posted by: seah | September 6, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
At the Democratic Convention, every single major Democratic speaker called their GOP opponents honorable and then went on to discuss policy differences. At the GOP Convention, every single major Republican speaker avoided talking about the failed policies of the last 8 years, and instead engaged in juvenile, sarcastic personal attacks. The differences in class and substance are stark. We have a choice between hope for a nobler future or a continuation of cynicism.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | September 6, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Obama is wasting his breath. McCain has a track record. Obama has JUST WORDS.
Posted by: geter | September 6, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
And these comments are exactly what made me start paying attention to Obama, before he even decided to run for President. Politics has always been a rough sport, but in the past 15 years or so we have replaced policy arguments with the politics of personal destruction. Our political opponents are not wrong, they are evil, or they hate America, or they look down on us.
Obama does not play that game. If, after watching the hate-fest that was the Republican convention, people actually vote McCain into office, I will wonder when my country became full of such meanness.
Posted by: Beth | September 6, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Seah,
Factcheck.org has determined that McCain has run 15 negative or attack ads. Obama has run 3. The differences in the tones of these two campaigns is stark. McCain’s campaign has been 5 times as negative.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | September 6, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
I had a similar feeling too when I was watching McCain’s speech: “Hmmm… is his party suffering from schizophrenia?”
Posted by: Chris | September 6, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Republicans are going to finally be out of here in 60 days! I am counting the days at this point. Yes, I am tired of hearing these mean ass thugs employ personal attacks. They will not talk about the real issues because they are too damn stupid to engage the American people in this type of dialogue. They have no solutions!
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: D | September 6, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Subtext: Obama wants to play the victim AGAIN just like when the big bad fowl Hillary Clinton was after him so he cries to the media that he is being attacked.
Sorry Obama won’t work anymore haven’t you heard there is a new star in media town? Too bad you chose a bore as your VP.
Posted by: Samantha | September 6, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Elodiestclair,
Your statistic is truly laughable. A candidate is either negative or not. It’s binary. There are no degrees of negativity that one determines by counting ads and dividing them. You left out all the 1000s of negative commentary faxes that come out of both campaigns. If a candidate does not try to chip away at the other’s image then there is no race. Obama and his team plays the game right down in the dirt with the best of the them.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | September 6, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Take the gloves off Obama and don’t stop till Nov. 4th. Jump on every lie and tear em down day after day. Don’t quite until their beaten into the ground.America deserves no less from the dems. Their latest ploy is to steal our flags from Invesco that were wrapped up neatly in bags and handed out today at McCain’s speech.I saw the pics…they were not discarded.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Will Obama stop crying, he sounds like old rag.
They are not in Washington, they were at a convention to save the US from Obama’s Marxism!!
whaaaaaaa:(
Posted by: spock | September 6, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
I’m tired of this talk of post-partisanship.
Let’s be honest, it’s the right-wing Republicans who are ruining America and who have been ruining America for decades.
Let’s have separate presidents for blue states and red states, that way the red states can have McCain and the blue states can have a competent president.
Posted by: John | September 6, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
You know it would be kind of funny to watch all the lil groups Obama has cultivated if he became President. Over time, their illusions about what he is going to do for them personally will be shattered because he has promised so much to too many DIFFERENT groups of people. If McCain tears down Obama, then I think McCain will have done something great for the American people.
Posted by: Kitty | September 6, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
“I have to say, when John McCain says in his speech that he wants to reduce the rancor in Washington … and I’m thinking, ‘Did you pay attention to the last two days of your convention?’” Obama asked”
Yes. McCain talked about reaching across the aisle. Obama talked about McCain=Bush (which Obama flip flopped to Palin=Bush).
Posted by: geevill | September 6, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
So happy to hear that Mike Duhaime is a major player in the McCain campaign. He is the same genius that ran the Presidential campaign operations for Rudy Giuliani this year. We saw how that turned out…perhaps one of the most ineptly produced campaigns in American political history.
The Palin pick is purely a cynical move on the part of the republicans…Clarence Thomas redux.
Posted by: Victor | September 6, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Rick Davis said himself that this campaign is not about the issues. Why would he say that? Because he knows if it is about the issues his ticket loses. Now if it’s not about the issues, then what can it be about? It’s about tearing Obama/Biden down – that’s all they got, no ideas of their own, just rip on any Obama/Biden ideas, say Obama isn’t patriotic enough, hangs out with radicals, is “risky”, he’s a “celebrity”, he’s an “empty suit”, is “all words”.
It it’s not about issues – Then what is it about? Identity politics and smoke and mirror imagery?
Posted by: Jonze | September 6, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
obama attacked mccain as having hundred of lobbyists. well, I got news, mccain earmarked ZERO. Last time I heard, Obama earmarked tens of millions of dollars.
Posted by: hannah | September 6, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Well of course McCain played nice at the conventions. Rudy, noun verb 9/11 LIEberman, Romney , Lindsay Graham (sssh I’ll still in the closet)said it all didn’t they.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
no John, american people are not stupid. Would you trust someone who has no record of fighting Washington corruption than someone has a record of it??? If american people trust obama’s words over records then I will agree with you that Americans are stupid.
Posted by: hannah | September 6, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
McCain needs to walk his talk when, if he wants to end the partisan politics he has plenty of opportunities to demonstrate it and ask his campaign to behave accordingly. It is so contagious that on her first appearance Sarah Palin gave what in this campaign was the most divisive and partisan speech. So Senator McCain share the memo let everyone get the message and please please dont politicize 9.11.
Posted by: RK | September 6, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
McCain needs to walk his talk when, if he wants to end the partisan politics he has plenty of opportunities to demonstrate it and ask his campaign to behave accordingly. It is so contagious that on her first appearance Sarah Palin gave what in this campaign was the most divisive and partisan speech. So Senator McCain share the memo let everyone get the message and please please dont politicize 9.11.
Posted by: RK | September 6, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Obama isn’t complaining or whining (leave that up to Palin and the faux sexism complain campaign), he’s calling McCain a hypocrite. He’s running a gutter smear campaign and pretending like he’s all above board.
Either McCain knows he’s lying, doesn’t know what his campaign is doing around him and didn’t listen to his convention speeches or he’s lost his marbles.
Your choice.
Posted by: Jonze | September 6, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Lets not talk about how many lobbyists are on McCains campaign payroll.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
McCain forfeited any credibility he might have had when he ran the paris hilton ad. His idea of an “honorable” campaign is a joke. And Rick Davis – who said that the election is not about issues but personalities – should be forced to apologize to all of America for further denigrating American politics.
Posted by: jon in maryland | September 6, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
“Yes. McCain talked about reaching across the aisle.”
With all the sincerity of a car salesman.
After the last two days he looked like a fool saying that.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
This is funny.
For weeks the response to any criticism of McCain is “how dare you he was a PO”
For the last week, the response to any criticism of Palin is “How dare you attack this woman and her daughter”
It doesn’t matter what the attack is.
Why are the Republicans such cowards and wimps?
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
I really don’t believe McCain has the wherewithal to run a campaign like this. He is become the puppet and once again The Rovians are the puppetmasters.
The old guy has lost his bearings. He don’t have a clue what’s going on. So sad to see him like this. His mom looks younger than him.
But instead of letting this guy gracefully run his campaign. The neocons and the Rovians are pushing this guy way outside his way of doing things and it shows.
Posted by: Omentum | September 6, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Thanks, Obama, for pointing this out. We had Ghouliani, Romney, and Palin sneering and denouncing anyone who does not agree with their narrow worldview and blaming “liberals” for the failures of the last 8 years, and then McCain comes on and says he is going to eliminate “partisan rancor”? He’s a uniter, not a divider alright!
Posted by: Michael | September 6, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Republicans are a sad cases of empty attacks. I can never understand their rants, raves, and negatives. Nothing of meaning. After Bush how can any respectable republican not want to try something else is beyond comprehension. Narrow minds, locked in vision, and sadly racist attitudes.
Posted by: WWT | September 6, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
This is just a smoke screen to give cover to his total ineptitude to be anywhere near the White House.We all know who’s running this campaign. Its got Rove written all over it.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Mary yes it does haha I doubt we see mcccain and palin apart much,she was suppose to start going it alone next week but that was scrapped lol
Posted by: rachel | September 6, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
More liberals have to talk longer and prouder. Republicans are loud and obnoxious. We need to stand up. As a business owner of a small business of 30 people I am a strong supporter of liberal ideas and philosophies. I am a fiscally responsible Liberal. Republicans are wasteful, war mongering, and shortsighted.
Posted by: wwt | September 6, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
“I got news, mccain earmarked ZERO.”
Than McCain’s has got a very serious problem. Aid to Israel is an earmark. How do you like your own news that McCain does not support Israel?
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 6, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilot was a governor.
Posted by: ed | September 6, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
News flash for the more rabid McCain supporters…noone ever thought this would be a close election. But…this time the Democrats will continue to fight despite the nasty tactics, snide and hateful remarks and the like. And you guys who “love” sarah palin? You trust her judgement? in this day and age of birth control, to get knocked up at 44, then hide it from your kids, parents and the public til your 7 months along then fly across the country during your last month of gestation, start leaking amniotic fluid and then,,instead of checking into a local hospital hopping on 8 hours worth of flights back home without medical advice…SMACKS of extremely POOR judgement…
then there are all the political dealings..like her “reformer” record despite being the earmark queen…(more for her town of 5000 than for Boise Idaho)…and so much more…
are y’all blind, deaf and dumb? or do you not CARE???
Posted by: Karronna | September 6, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
I MEANT no one thought this WOULDN’T be a close election. YIKES! :)
Posted by: Karronna | September 6, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
“Obama is the one who started his Campaign on Vulgar, evil and vile smear tactics and attacking all of his opponents.”
Seeing Obama and his aides talking nasty about Hillary (it was never on issues but on her personality), we learnt more about Obama’s HATEFUL personality. He is a TRAITOR!!!
Keep Obama away from the White House.
Posted by: JKan | September 6, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
ed thinks Obama is Jesus. pray for his lost soul
Posted by: geevill | September 6, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Of course they don’t care…If they cared about unemployment,housing crisis,health care,education, the 2 wars…why they’d be dems.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
McCain, Palin and their supporters are obviously anti-American. Eight years ago America was the only super power in the world. We were where we should have been. Now we are just another nation. With McCain and Palin we will end up a third world nation. owned by Chine because of of all the debt and poorer than we even are now. They and their supporters should be put in prison as traitors!
Posted by: CMSgt Gary Preston | September 6, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Not this time…mr McSame.
Posted by: elvis | September 6, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
I’m a small business owner too – of a health care related business. Under Obama’s plan – i can but am not FORCED to offer health insurance for my employees, but if I do – I’ll get a tax break. Under Senator Mccain’s plan – the health insuarance benefits my husband gets from his work will be taxed.
One of the many reasons I’m voting for Obama.
Posted by: Karronna | September 6, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
I think Ms. Pittbull will wear thin rather quickly. She is very nasty and negative. Real Americans want to know what they will do to CHANGE things. All they talk about is Obama, for Gods sake, take a stand on the issues.
When you have nothing good to say about yourself the only option is to try to smear the other guy.
Posted by: ENOUGH | September 6, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Give one example of Obama being evil and vile. Jkan…Obama is a traitor! How so? You republicans have no patent on being patriotic.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
I am not in favor of socialized medicine and do not particularly like Obama’s plan, having said that. Under McCain I likely will not be able to obtain health insurance at all, as my employer will no longer be obligated to provide it.
That is not change my family can live with.
Posted by: TRUTH ABOUT HEALTH CARE | September 6, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
I know EXACTLY what Obama is talking about here. Anyone who heard the laughter and derision emanating from the Republican faithful when Giuliani mentioned Obama’s community organizing background should recognize the “politics of destruction” that McCain is waging right now.
Obama’s work as a community organizer was every bit as heroic and patriotic as John McCain’s service in Vietnam. But I’m not surprised that Republicans would scoff at the efforts of a black man trying to organize low income communities and bring them into the political process. If it was up to the Republicans, the political process would be the exclusive right of the upper 1% in society.
Better stop now before I digress into the politics of destruction.
Posted by: Matt | September 6, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Karronna: See McCain supporters don’t know that about his health care plan, it’s his big secret, hence we won’t talk about the issues.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
When John McCain said in his speech he was going to name names or corrupt politicians, the first one he should have named right then and THERE was George W. Bush. He let me down. And the bald face lies in the speech. You think Obama has not mentioned nuclear energy as an option? You think Obama doesn’t support charter schools and the like? Unite the country— BULL. Not falling for that, more-of-the-same-McCain.
Also, how dare Palin smugly attack Obama’s credit as a community organizer? You think she has a monopoly on who is American? You think she could have gone into the South side of Chicago and done what he had done??! Martin Luther King Jr, was a community organizer. She is no worse than the attacks on her, but certainly no better, nor is she a uniter.
Posted by: Anna | September 6, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Our infastructure is crumbling, our ecconomy is crumbling, our health care system is crumbling, our social security is crumbling and the party in charge of it all wants us to vote for change….
OK, Obama/Biden it is!
Posted by: Jeff | September 6, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
So now Obama is whining. His first decision was to eliminate 18 million voters. All he had to do is pick Clinton. But now he wants her to go to Florida to do what he can’t do. Obama has been in the Senate for 24 months and out of those he has campaigned for 18 months. I want a job where I don’t have to show up to work for 18 months. I listened to Obama today. It is clear he has no understanding of the tax code. The $4,000 education credit is already there, put there by Bill Clinton. Business already gets to write off employee benefits such as health insurance, today he was talking stupid stuff and it was clear he didn’t understand. Employee taxes. Who pays them? You pay 1/2 and your employer pays 1/2. As a tax professional, I have seen my clients move from a W-2 to a 1099 where they pay the full 15%. So how is that going to help a small business? or You? Then I heard him talk trash to the AARP on Cspan. Fear mongering about what would happen to their social security. Well I am a couple of years away from being in that group. Social Security is not taxed until you reach and income of $34,000 or above. Maybe Obama needs to read the tax code. I checked his Senate record, and well it is pretty non existent. Oh Well — a man blowing hot air again.
Posted by: Halina | September 6, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
I cain’t wait to see the beauty queen from Alaska have to give an interview to some reporters. She will not be able to hide forever. I wonder if one of them will ask her “Just what does a Vice President do”. ?????
Posted by: Westacan | September 6, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Hey, thanks for the poll link.
As popular as Palin is, she clearly has not won over independents or any dems. This is good.
Once the shine wears off and the lies are further exposed, Obama’s numbers are going to jump.
In addition to this, these poll numbers are flawed in that they do not call cell phone numbers. Young people, a large amount of Obama’s support, use cell phones exclusively and so are not showing up in any of the polling.
McCain had to pick Palin, it was his last ditch effort and looks like it isn’t working.
Posted by: LOVE THOSE POLL NUMBERS | September 6, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Down with McClown!
McCain=Bush, same insane pain.
Whoever voted for Bush on 2004 and still approves of his performance owes the whole country an apology.
The Bush administration is an abomination.
McCain’s VP choice does not matter. What matters is YOUR choice.
Are you going to choose another Bush term? No way!
Go Obama!!
Posted by: Plain View | September 6, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Democrats started the nasty talk against Palin by minimizing her achievements, saying she was only a small town mayor and even calling her a flight attendant. Then Obama whined when she returned fire about him being a mere community organizer. Fair is fair.
On the other hand, McCain is rude and boorish and bad tempered. Republicans compare Palin to Obama constantly because they seem to be voting for Palin — not McCain — maybe even hoping McCain will just die in office….
In the end, Republicans and Democrats have no meaningful differences, so I’ll be voting for Bob Barr.
Posted by: Carol | September 6, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
McSame has no idea about the economy, Palin has made a trip to a Chinese restaurant in Ohio 10 days ago, this is all she knows about foreign affairs. Let’s prepare for Gas at $12 a gallon, no Healthcare, no jobs, depression like in 1929, holy wars against Iran, Nord Korea, Syria, Russia, reversal of Roe Vs Wade, more tax cuts for those who own 7 houses…
Posted by: elvis | September 6, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
John said:
“I’m tired of this talk of post-partisanship.”
“Let’s be honest, it’s the right-wing Republicans who are ruining America and who have been ruining America for decades.”
“Let’s have separate presidents for blue states and red states, that way the red states can have McCain and the blue states can have a competent president.”
John, I have to admit that I would absolutely love this (not blue states and red states, just different regions): Let those states that support Obama have him as President and let those supporting McCain have him.
The right-wing can have their party, the same one that has presided over record home foreclosures, the highest unemployment in five years, record gas prices, and high food costs while giving huge tax breaks to oil companies as opposed to a larger middle class tax cut.
I will very happily take Obama’s IQ to lead my region, thank you very much.
But, that’s how I know who is better for the country. If you had the choice (between these two) of someone to lead your region of the country while sending the other guy to “stick it to” another region, you’d easily keep Obama for yourself and happily let some other place have 72 year old McCain and much of the same Republican reps that have dropped America down about 20 pegs.
This is not the same country I grew up in; not by a long shot. Our lifestyle is moving closer to that of Russia.
To those that love McCain, you have to at least like this idea. Right?
I mean, this economy is PERFECT for you, right?
Posted by: James | September 6, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Halina You are aware McCain wants raise the retirement age. All Obama wants to do is raise the payroll tax on those making over $150,000. My payroll tax is never capped because of my income. Wouldn’t you like social security to be there for your children?Something has to be done, after all we’ve talked about this for years.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Mabe if Obama had voted something other than “Present” since being elected to the Senate we might know how he stands on the issues……
Posted by: Mr Ed | September 6, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Carol–
What state are you in? Bob Barr is polling at 11% of the vote in New Hampshire.
Posted by: Go Carol | September 6, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Palin is pale when you compare her to Barack. The pitbull with lipstick tried to demean Barack. She did not succeed.Americans may be dumb,but we are not that dumb. When the real barracuda is revealed, let McSame land softly….his goose will be cooked…like Vader Chenney would say.
Posted by: dave | September 6, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Mr Ed: In the state senate Obama did vote present 300 times..out of 3,000 votes. Quess what the guy who started this talking point voted present more times than Obama. Just a note…anyone(not being you apparantly)in Ill state senate knows this is a common tatic used by everyone when they are not happy with some part of the bill.See how much you learned.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
McCain a Naval Commander? HA HA…maybe of his own fishing boat.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
“Mabe if Obama had voted something other than “Present” since being elected to the Senate”
Obama voted present 130 times out of over 4000 votes while in the IL state Senate.
You cannot vote present in the US Senate.
The Republican base is stupid. They believe anything
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Obama: The perfect candidate for people who like BS.
Posted by: Soetoro NO! | September 6, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
John Bush/McCain wants our votes when he supports exporting if not just jobs, but certainly capital overseas…. His support of the Airbus version of the proposed U.S. Air Force tanker program says it all in volumes. Sarah Pallin is a study in hidden issues and booby traps, a Carl Rove design in caos waiting. It is a very wise tactic to not fall for the decpetions hidden in this candidacy. I think there are dirty theoretical and opportunistic dishonest tactics in this choice. An examp[le is the fact that she is the attempting to distort the campaign by making HER record and experience the factor that Barack has to overcome, not Bush/McCain’s This time, lets not allow distortions to enter the process of enlightening the American people as to the choices presented. Watch for devious tactics, its all the Republicans have… the record of the real facts that will NEVER persuade any working person to support the Bush/McCain/ Pallin vacuum.
Posted by: curtis | September 6, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
A few things we know for sure. No matter who we vote for president, that person will not do everything we want done. By the end of that person’s first term many of those complaining about the current president will be complaining about this one, whether voted for or not. More than like these same people will be complaining about the next president also.
Each time there is a new president this person will complain because of the stupid thing that president is doing. Of course at no time will one of these complainers step up to the plate and see if they can persuade enough of us to elect that complainer. Its easier to look brilliant by being a complainer.
Jim
Posted by: Jim Oase | September 6, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
I don’t agree with Obama.
If Republicans want to campaign on “Character and Experience” let ‘em.
1) McCain is the first known adulterer to run for President. He demonstrated his character when he stripped off his Uniform to use women for sex. Since we impeach presidents for having sex outside of marriage – why should McCain be allowed to sidestep this issue in a presidential campaign?
2) Sarah Palin has no national or international experience. None. Zip. Nada. ZERO.
Obama needs to address the fact that these two people do not meet the legal, moral or professional standards they claim are required for the jobs they seek.
He needs to point out that they can’t even pass their own test.
Posted by: John Quimby | September 6, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
saying she was only a small town mayor”
She was a small town mayor. And she ran up $22M in debt for that small town.
Posted by: Ryan C | September 6, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Did Obama watch the Democratic convention? I lost count how many times John McCain was mentioned with the other speakers, but Obama mentioned his name at least 21 times and used the term “he” a lot. I think McCain used Obama’s name maybe 6 times and “my oponent” a few times. That’s all Obama does is talk about McCain and say stuff like they talk about him more than they talk about the issues. Well, uh, uh, uh, you know, Obama you bring his name up constantly.
Posted by: Maria | September 6, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
well lets face it. america has problems getting along with the rest of the world at the moment. our credibility has been stretched thin, our values eroded, and our economy trashed. we have angered many people all over the world and the kind of folks who would never ever travel and hear about any of this are acting like spoiled brats throwing a temper tantrum.
the republicans and the nationalist “US versus THEM- and we are better” approach to politics will not be enough to help the USA and the USA sure could use a bit of help just now.
time to change the script.
or the boat sinks.
right wing people are so stupid they can’t even save themselves they just like to fight. i’m so tired of them
Posted by: bradley wilson | September 6, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Americans pay more per capita for healthcare than any country that uses socialized medicine. Can someone tell me how for-profit healthcare, courtesy of the free market, is serving our needs? It’s not. Let go your dogma.
Posted by: Hilary Smith | September 6, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Ed–
McCain did NOT FIGHT FOR FREEDOM. He was in Vietnam and there was really no chance of Vietnam invading the USA and oh yeah, we lost and the commies took over anyway and we were still free.
Besides he didn’t fight, he crashed his plane and spent the war at the Hanoi Hilton. I hear they had great box service.
Posted by: McCain NOT A WAR HERO | September 6, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Yes, Palin WAS a small town mayor, but she is currently a GOVERNOR. Democrats kept omitting that last fact, preferring to refer to her as a small town mayor. That is why Palin brought up Obama’s history as a “community organizer.”
Democrats asked for it. Just admit that and move on.
Posted by: Eric | September 6, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
I took my time and read this whole blog listing. The majority are for Obama. Why? Simply put let’s look at the conventions. Dems: GOP is honorable and here are the issues. GOP: No issues just attacks. Even some pro McCain’s are tired of the Rove “just get elected” negative system. If pro McCain(s) are waiting for the real issues to be discussed, don’t hold your breath.
USA PLEASE don’t get caught up in all of that this time. Look at the issues that affect YOU and vote your interest.
Posted by: Dr Mambo | September 6, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
“Obama needs to address the fact that these two people do not meet the legal, moral or professional standards they claim are required for the jobs they seek.”
… and perhaps the republicans need to address the fact that not only might Obama fail the legal, moral, professional standards rfquired for the position he seeks… bugt he might ALSO fail the requirements of citizenship required for the rank of POTUS!
Posted by: just thinking: | September 6, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Eric==
Governor for 20 months to the 47th ranked state in population.
Karl ROves opinion on this –
Three years as governor and being the mayor of the 105th largest city in the US, he is NOT QUALIFIED TO BE THE VP (regarding Tim Kain of Virginia when he was on Obama’s short list). Talk about flip flop.
Dude your own boy says a person with this little experience is NOT qualified.
Who cares anyway, they are going to lose in a big way. Game is so over and has been for a while now.
Posted by: MCAILING IS GOING TO LOSE | September 6, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
If at anytime you ever thought Iraq had something to do with 911, then you are the victim of propaganda. McCain was a part of that propaganda. So was Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Independent | September 6, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Hilary Smith,
There is no free market.
Government regulation is everywhere, especially in health care. The price of health care is catastrophic because government intervention makes it so.
Posted by: Helen | September 6, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
DR Mambo: I’m here tonite to drowned out all these lies and inuendos these bloggers keep writing. Enough is enough. We’re going to hit em hard from now until election. This is our election to lose and by God if we lose it will be on the issues not slurs and lies.They are not interested in the issues. The Dems are fed up.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
A far more qualified woman was passed over for a far less qualified man when the DNC superdelegates & MSNBC promoted Obama into the candidacy above Hillary.
That’s all the evidence I needed that the Democrats are sexist idiots, intoxicated with their narcissistic candidate.
Too much power in one party is dangerous — just like Bush was. SO I’M VOTING REPUBLICAN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE.
Posted by: Jackie | September 6, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
>>>>”MCAILING IS GOING TO LOSE
He might,
but McCain and Palin won’t!
Posted by: HMMMM | September 6, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
MCAILING IS GOING TO LOSE:
Fine. Since Palin has been governor for only 20 months it obviously counts for NOTHING.
And since Alaska is so far away and is not the largest state in population, her executive experience there — dealing with the oil industry and every facet of a governors job in any other state — should count for NOTHING.
OK. Let’s just omit that she is a governor then. I guess we’ll go back to comparing small town mayors to “community organizers.”
Posted by: Eric | September 6, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Jackie: Obama beat Hillary fair and square. Time to move on. No true Hillary supporter could vote for McCain or Palin, so sorry I just am not buying your support for McCain.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Eric,
You missed the point, which was, two weeks ago your own party’s definition of VP readiness would have excluded her qualifications.
But in all seriousness, yes the fact that she has only been governor for 20 months and prior to that a mayor and PTA president, makes her unqualified to be vice president.
She is not running against Obama, Obama is running against McCain, so comparisons are not necessary.
I would be happy to compare her qualifications to Joe Biden if you like, as that is who her counterpart is in this election.
Posted by: whatever | September 6, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
When your employer no longer has to provide health insurance, and you get to shop for it all on your own, be prepared. Pre-existing condition may or may not be covered depending on how much you are willing to spend. If you’re a woman of child bearing years, that costs extra, want maternity coverage, even more. Employee group insurance plans cover all these higher risk factors and employees get pretty decent coverage. Try to shop for insurance as an individual and you get shafted and robbed. McCain’s plan is a real winner for insurance companies and a real loser for working families. Thanks, but no thanks McCain.
Posted by: Amy T | September 6, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Julia: I sorry but this is the only way you can deal with some of these people. In their face and demand facts. They think they can write anything and we’ll just keep trying to argue policy. We’re fighting for the future of our country and McCain has took it to a low so I’m jumping right in there. Maybe not lady like but this Dem is done playing nice to ignorant people…thats how we got Bush. NOT THIS TIME.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
SO MCain want to reduce partisan rancor in Washington..?…. Is he leaving?
Posted by: NMP | September 6, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
TRUTH ABOUT HEALTH CARE:
Health care is NOT regulated…? Where have you been for your entire life? In a coma?
Health care is regulated from the moment any potential drug is put into a test tube to be tested. Every pill you pop, every diagnostic test you take has government mandated regulations raising the price all the way to your Wal Mart.
Greedy doctors…? Please! Compared to the years they put into their hugely expensive educations, and the endless hours they have to spend keeping current on latest advancements, and the crazy hours they keep, getting up in the middle of the night to attend to emergencies (when you are home snoozing) they are not all that well renumerated.
True greed is expecting that other people do all of the above for you — for little or nothing.
Posted by: Sean | September 6, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Jnwilderness
Please, you’e embarassing the rest of the black devil Dem-wits here with your stupidy. Even they know that the 2 years the Dems have controlled congress is NOT enough time to do anything with Peloi and Reid in charge. What happened to the “first 100 days”? Get real moron!
Posted by: LIES AND DAMN LIES | September 6, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
I am not in favor of socialized medicine and do not particularly like Obama’s plan, having said that. Under McCain I likely will not be able to obtain health insurance at all, as my employer will no longer be obligated to provide it.
That is not change my family can live with.
Posted by: TRUTH ABOUT HEALTH CARE | Sep 6, 2008 9:00:39 PM
I have news for you, Truth, your employer is not obligated to provide you with health insurance now.
Posted by: Rrrrr | September 6, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Somebody made a good point about the polls. You can’t really trust these polls. Not only are young people with cell phones not being contacted, but people with NO phones, such as POOR PEOPLE, are not being contacted. Not to mention the people who DO have phones but don’t feel like talking to a political pollster, so they just hang up.
The only people who are being contacted for these polls are those with landline phones who are willing to talk. There is a whole ‘nother layer of voters flying beneath the pollsters’ radars. Lots of people flat-out don’t trust anyone who calls them on the telephone and starts asking personal questions such as “who are you going to vote for”. I know I have hung up on a few of them; they are as annoying as telemarketers.
But let’s talk about community organizers for a minute. (You know, those community organizer people that Rudy and Sarah The Moose Slayer were ridiculing in their speeches.) Those community organizer people go out into the nitty gritty, down-and-out communities and they register voters. They help people understand the election process and they talk about the issues and the candidates. They organize transportation for people if they cannot get to the polling places on their own.
And these newly registered voters are able to vote for the first time in their down-trodden lives. They finally have a small little voice, magnified by thousands more.
And Barack Obama is elected.
Posted by: mavis beacon | September 6, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
This election is no longer an election, it has become a census; a count of how many people there are out there who prefer to sign without reading the fine print; who prefer platitudes over policies. If there are enough of them out there, then it’s game over for the United States, and we’ll shrink to a fraction of what we once were, just like Russia, England, Rome, and so many empires that have come and gone before us.
Posted by: Los | September 6, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
John McCain said, “I caused the breakup of my first marriage.”
Uh, yeah, ’cause he was “fraternizing” with subordinates.
Great choice for all you Hillarians.
Posted by: John Quimby | September 6, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Our economy is so bad all they keep on talking about is how Obama is not the right person for the White House WOW. I dont see the change that Mr. McSame and Super star over night Sarah Falin is saying thats coming. My mother lost her house because we cant paid the loan of $4500.00 a month for a two family.
This Election its not about REP and DEM its about us AMERICAN we need a CHANGE in WASHINGTON in NOV.
ENOUGH is ENOUGH
Posted by: USAVALUE | September 6, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Mavis: Good post. The reps act like thats all Obama ever did. Heck he was 24 when he was the director of DCP.Doesn’t a Director have to have pretty good managing skills to do that job? Heck they can’t and won’t credit him with his other accomplishments.Columbia,Harvard, the state senate….
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
The longer she hides, the more the Moose Slayer is the hunted one.
If the woman could hold her own in a one-on-one interview with a trained reporter, she would have done so by now.
I watched an interview she did after she had been elected governor. She kept rrepeating the same thing over and over aand really didn’t give any in-depth answers to the questions. And the questions being asked were all within her supposed realm of expertise….
She will flounder horribly when asked the hard questions. There is no amount of preparation that will be adequate in this short time frame for her to get up to speed. It would take literally YEARS of studying for her to get a real clue. The woman is a stage performer. Granted, she’s a good one, but that’s ALL she is.
McCain used the oldest marketing ploy in the book to sell himself… the sex appeal of a pretty lady. How sexist is THAT?
Posted by: mavis beacon | September 6, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Whatever,
I’m not actually a Republican so I have no emotional investment in what the Republicans consider qualified for VP experience. I gotta admit though, when I reread my post I really did sound like a Republican sympathizer! I am a Libertarian though.
I only make the point that Palin’s credentials, whether you like her politics or not, were severely minimized by the Democrats. Palin threw this right back at Obama in her speech and he cried “No fair.” I thought that was pretty childish.
Like you, I personally find it very curious that Republicans (and Democrats, actually) keep comparing Palin to Obama — and not to Biden. I think this is because Republicans really don’t like McCain very much. They are almost treating Palin like she is the presidential pick. Large numbers of them wonder if McCain will die in office, which furthers their comparisons of Palin to Obama. You gotta wonder if they are even hoping he will….
My theory is that McCain may be counting on the libertarian-leaning Palin to offset the Bob Barr vote.
Barr has enough support in several key states to keep McCain from winning them, which would give Obama the edge in a close race. Republicans are desperately trying to get Barr kicked off the ballot of a number of states, which is too evil for words.
The USA keeps trying to “spread democracy” around the world, but apparently doesn’t even believe in it…
Posted by: Eric | September 6, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
I’m a proud liberal democrat who loves this country. If I didn’t I’d be a republican.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Obama will be fighting in court. He was served papers on Sept 4.I guess we will see who he really is and where he was really born. Hope it go’s the dem’s way because if he did lie you won’t have The One any more.
Posted by: Bob | September 6, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Bob: are you who you really are? Can you prove it?
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Eric wrote:
“I only make the point that Palin’s credentials, whether you like her politics or not, were severely minimized by the Democrats. Palin threw this right back at Obama in her speech and he cried “No fair.” I thought that was pretty childish.”
Go ahead and post a link to any quote of Obama criticizing Palin’s lack of experience. Of course, you won’t find one because he hasn’t criticized her for that.
Some people in the media have rightfully criticized her for it. McCain’s response? Alaska is sort of close to Russia, so she has foreign affairs experience. Does anyone REALLY want someone running the country who thinks that living near another country makes you qualified to be VP (and hence potentially President) when it comes to foreign affairs?!?!
Posted by: McCain is a panderer | September 6, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Another lame factor Bob.
Senator Obama is a US citizen.
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
McCain is a panderer: That’s what I’m talking about…make him prove his statement. “they” throw out all these statements and can’t back anything up.Not anymore the Dems are in your face till Nov.We’re fired up…ready to go. Bring it on.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
So Bill Clinton gets impeached by the Republicans because he had an affair, and now those republicans are voting for John McCain!
Posted by: hello | September 6, 2008, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
bc46
Do me a favor and reread what I’ve written and my other posts and then come back and apologize to me for mistaking me for a McCain supporter.
Posted by: JnWilderness | September 6, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Sleeping E-Done, Obama is your only hope if you wake up and come to senses.
Posted by: karlc | September 6, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
bc46
Apology Accepted (AA for those that are using their cell phones without a QWERTY keyboard).
Posted by: JnWilderness | September 6, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Jimimosey: Sad isn’t it that McCain couldn’t even support the New GI Bill.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
I get tired of the lies and innuendo and divisiveness, linda n carolina, especially when their new mantra is “bringing us together.” Far as I can tell, this is another line item to add to the long list of ties to Bush policy and politics. Us and them – classic Rove/Schmidt. Sincerely, if you continue the attacks and continue to split American voters into irreconcilable camps, this behavior will continue if (shudder) they win in the fall. John Bush seems to want it both ways (along with the rest of his “maverick” identity), to use divisive politics and then think we’ll all buy into it like lumpen protetariat. Not this time. No way. No how.
Posted by: jimimosey | September 6, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
It appears that Palin believes in Socialism.
Under her leadership, Alaska asked for almost $300 per personfor pet projects from Ted Stevens. This is almost ten times more per person than any other states received from Congress.
In her first year in office, the Alaskan state government requested from Congress more than $555 million worth of earmarks.
That is how she became so popular in Alaska. Lots of free money from Uncle Sam.
She DIGS, LOVES, LIVES BY socialism and earmarks for Alaska. Greedy for money for her state from Uncle Sam. And now she and McCain say they are against earmarks?
Hippocrites. Actions speak louder than words. We are not as dumb as you hope.
Posted by: Independent | September 6, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Brad Hanson would not approve of all this vitriol.
He obviously did approve of Todd Palin’s wife.
The National Enquirer has been mailing PDF’s of key facts they know to various reporters.
We may be seeing the end to a few things.
Posted by: kravitz | September 6, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Hey someone could make a fortune writing a book just on the blogs during this election. Someone think of a good title.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Palin is totally not qualified to be president. What happens if/when McCain is incapacitated or dies? He has had a recurrence of melanoma. That’s not too good. Even if he were not extremely elderly and had recurrent melanoma this would be a major problem.
If the vice-presidentIAL CANDIDATE is not qualified to be president, the presidential CANDIDATE who chose her is automatically disqualified as a serious contender.
She comes from a background of Alaskan politics that is largely divorced from the reality in the rest of the country. Any governor could do great if his or her under-populated state enjoyed a huge surplus from oil taxes. Her moose-hunting, creationism-supporting anti-choice fundamentalist ways are way out of sync with the realities of the majority of Americans.
I would prefer that the president of the United States be someone a little more rational.
He obviously ignored the experts who could have told him there are far more qualified candidates. We can’t count on him listening to the experts when they tell him his ideas are crazy. He will not listen to reason, just like Bush.
McCain by comparison is more of a flip-flopping wackadoo that cannot be trusted.
One of the news agencies said he has only meet her once and decided on her yesterday?? I think these 2 Mavericks will be heading off in the sunset together post election day.
a stupid reckless choice to put my future into the hands of someone he met once and is already embrolied in an investigation 2 years into her governorship—
Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
linda n carolina
I thought the title of the book should be “Election 2008: How Patriotic Democrats and Patriotic Republicans
Took America Back From The Extremist”
What do you think?
Posted by: JnWilderness | September 6, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Inwilderness: Sorry can’t read your first initial. Good title!
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Speaking of Ted Stevens…
It seems before she was against Stevens, who was indited on corruptions charges, she was for him. Actually one of his best allies.
She asked for huge earmarks from him in Congress, and he granted them
In return, Pain used to be the director of “Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc”: a 527 group, you know, the kind of loophole-dependent fundraising group not regulated by the Federal Election Commission or by a state elections commission to maximize the money it could raise for a candidate.
When she was done using him and whenit got embarrassing, she dumped him and rewrote history. Suddenly she was fighting Ted Stevens and corruption in Alaska. Nice.
Posted by: anna | September 6, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Jim,
I take it that you are pleased about McCain’s choice then…? Since Palin’s glaring flaws are so quickly detected by the common man, I trust that there is nothing you are seriously worried about.
I am certain you are secretly rejoicing that McCain has handed you the election, Palin being so obviously out of touch from that Alaska place that likely shouldn’t even get to vote they are so weird…..
Posted by: Steven | September 6, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
If God was a blogger he would…..?
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Republicans have to stoop to peddling ignorance and fear because they know their base. Any complex plans or changes would just confuse the average Republican. They do not think, thats why they like people like Rush and Hannity to tell them what to do. Three speakers come on spitting blood, and then McSame comes on and says he wants to end “partisan rancor”, he knows their attention span won’t allow them to grasp the obvious contradiction!
Posted by: Michael | September 6, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
McShame = “100 years in Iraq”
Misses roll calls on Iraq.
VOTES AGAINST NEW GI BILL. Took advantage of his yet denies today’s veterans. But he touts 9/11.
He was a POW so he is qualified to be President? So was Jessica Lynch.
Send him and his $300,000 suit wearing wife home!
Posted by: Sue M Vet | September 6, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
Night everyone. Remember Dems…in their face till Nov. don’t let one lie,one inuendo, one smear go unanswered.Make em eat their words…run them off the blogs in embarassment. This is our time and if we don’t stand together we will lose again. Never again. Not this time.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 6, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Obama is the one not qualified to be president. But the Obama networks including ABC will never seriously question his qualifications !!
Posted by: John | September 6, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
The crooks are Bush and his league of republican rubber stampers. The democrats may have gotten a majority in 2006 of both houses, but they only got a majority of one in the Senate. Republicans have called for filibusters 90 times which means you have to get 60 votes. That takes some republicans standing with the democrats and that has rarely happened. If something is passed then there is Bush waiting to veto it when it does get the votes. So as long as Bush and his rubberstampers are in office, all the democrats efforts on behalf of the country have been futile.
Posted by: Vicki | September 7, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
I think the GOP strategy, makes sense, judging by the last two Pres elections, and the posts on political blogs.
The GOP treats the electorate, like everyone is a dimwit. Like this…
In reference to Palin being shielded from the Media, Rick Davis, Lobbyist… I mean, McCain’s Campaign Manager, said on Friday, “I’d never commit to anything in the future. … Our strategy is in our hands, not the media’s. We’re going to do what’s in our best interests to try to win the election. If we think going on TV news shows are in our best interests, we’ll do it. If we don’t, we won’t.”
So, according to Mr *America First,* the interests of winning come before the interests of the American People.
Davis further said that the Campaign is not about issues, but personality.
Hence, all we see are the attacks on Obama. No plans, no nothing.
And as far as the Gov Palin, they obviously know she’s unprepared, so they’ll put words in her mouth for her speeches, then hide her under a rock.
Thus, they think the electorate are rubes… and judging by the polls, they’re right, unfortunately.
I’m one of the few, who expected McCain to choose Palin. But even so, I’m stunned the American People are so ignorant, that they’d actually support someone, who won’t speak. They’ll actually elect someone, that is too frightened to answer questions.
America got what it deserved with Bush… and it seems, they’ll do it again.
So, to all McCain voters, making less than $250k, enjoy it when you can’t feed you kids anymore. You elected more incompetence, because you’d rather treat the election as a Reality Show, than serious national business.
The GOP is laughing at your ignorance… and all you continue to do, is shout proudly, *Yes We Are!!!*
Posted by: baz | September 7, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Sue M Vet:
In fairness to all people, you might want to check how that $300,000.00 price tag was arrived at….
It was pure conjecture.
The dress may have actually cost the cited 3,000.00 since it was a known designer dress.
Nobody knew who “designed” the shoes, so the author just guessed — and slapped an enormous price-tag on them — twice the price tag she slapped on Mrs. Bush’s shoes.
Nobody knows if the jewelry was real or fake — so they slapped a random enormous price tag on them too — with the assumption that IF all the “diamonds” were flawless and huge, they might cost as much as THIS!!!
Writer’s can just as easily smear Obama’s wife in this way too, so you might not want to believe everything you read. Instead, you might want to demand that the writer of that hit piece back up her claims. I am sure you are interested in the truth, after all.
Posted by: Helen | September 7, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Palin lied several times when giving her Convention speech. Palin said that Obama wants to raise your taxes, but actually he only wants to raise taxes on people with individual incomes over a quarter-million dollars. Obama will cut middle class taxes in order to restore fairness.
Palin and earmarks – In her first year as Governor she requested 52 federal earmarks totaling $256 million. This year, her second in office, she sought 32 earmarks totaling $197 million. When she was the mayor of Wasilla she hired a lobbying firm and got lots of earmarks for her small town. Palin was in favor of the bridge to nowhere (for the few) before she was against it. The money did however go to Alaska and was spent on other things. So her thanks but no thanks is not true.
Posted by: Vicki | September 7, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Actually Eric, you are mistaken. It was the Republicans who first compared Sarah Palin’s experience to Barack Obama as a response to reporters when they asked about her credentials. This is the way they operate, instead of answering a question directly and honestly they attack Barack Obama or the media. When the reporters asked Barack to comment on their assertions, he merely pointed out that his staff is comprised of 2,250 people and his budget is 3 times the annual budget of Alaska for just last month alone.
If you ask me, he has shown plenty of “executive experience” in the excellent financial and organizational running of his campaign. In fact, it was Hillary Clinton’s lack of properly managing her campaign that cost her the primary and ran up several million dollars in debt. Likewise, while Republican’s can tout Sarah Palin’s “executive experience”, what they don’t say is that she left her town with a $20 million deficit-much like the Republican’s lack of fiscal responsiblity with our country. Frankly, I don’t want Sarah Palin’s “executive experience” anywhere near the White House. What good is this experience, if it’s all bad and if she so ready to be president on day one, why is she hiding from reporters? Perhaps, because she needs to be tutored on national and foreign matters that apply to the lower 48? This right wing fundamentalist is out of touch with mainstream America and I find it dispicable that McCain ignored far more experienced and capable Republicans as VP. Clearly, he does not have America’s best interest at heart, it’s just win at any cost for them. The thought of McCain answered that phone at 3 am in the morning, keeps me up at night.
We need someone who THINKS before he acts and LISTENS to other points of views so that he can make an informed decision as to how best to run this country. We need someone who’s SMART and graduated at the top of their class and not the bottom. We need someone who is willing to be HONEST with the America people and that certainly won’t be McCain.
Posted by: Rose Black | September 7, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Reminder: out of 899 graduates at Annapolis, McCain ranked 894. That’s the bottom 1% !!!!!
Do we really want someone who was in the bottom 1% of their class and who is senile running our Country?
Posted by: Wayne Hauck | September 7, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am
John, Obama is the next President of the United States.
Posted by: Wayne Hauck | September 7, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
DRILL BABY DRILL!!!!!!!!!WE NEED CHEAPER
ENERGY……EVERYWHERE EVEN IN MY
BACK YARD…….
COUNTRY FIRST……
McCAIN/PALIN ’08
Posted by: ROBERT | September 7, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Go Carol:
I am in Washington State. We tend to get a pretty good libertarian showing here, but New Hampshire is great, isn’t it…?
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
When Sen. Obama accepted the nomination, McCain congratulated him with “job well done” – a paid comercial ad by the McCain team. Plouff, Obama’s campaign manager said they would respond in kind.
Is this it?
Posted by: diamond lou | September 7, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am
If you are a mom out there – please do not vote for McPainful. If you do, your child would end up in Iraq, Russia, N Korea or China (the contries that McPalin wants to fight) getting killed in unneccessary war because McSame would reinstate the DRAFT. If my only son does not want to join the military voluntarily, McPainful will not force him to.
No Draft, No Draft, No Way, No How, No McPainful.
President Obama 2008
Navy wife
Posted by: ob08 | September 7, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
If God was a blogger he would…..?
Posted by: linda n carolina
——————————-
If God was a blogger, He would most likely condemn McCain, Palin, and the rest of the republicans who engage in smears, trash-and-burn tactics, slander, personal attacks, racism, bigotry, and deceit! If God was a blogger he would most likely determine to send these horrible people to the lowest levels of Hades for all eternity. Since He is not a bloggger, I am sure he IS condemning these horrible and unethical republicans and republican wannabes and keeping an extremely accurate record of their not living by His Ten Commandments, which include “Thou shalt not pass false judgement”. McCain, Paline, Lieberman, Romney, Huckabee, et all, and republican supporters certainly have engaged, and are engaging, in false judgement and are suffering from a severe case of diarrhea of the mouth spewing their falsehoods and accusations!!
Posted by: NinaK | September 7, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
It’s amazing how when the Republicans screw up they blame it on the Democrats and when the Democrats accomplish something the Republicans take the steal the credit for it!
Yeah, the last 8 years you can blame it all on the Democrats. Are they serious?
Talk about being out of touch and not accepting responsibility for their own actions! How can they offer change when they can’t even see that they did anything wrong!?!?!
Posted by: Redneck4Obama | September 7, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Linda n Carolina:
You wrote: McCain a Naval Commander? HA HA…maybe of his own fishing boat.
Actually, McCain retired from the Navy as a captain — i.e, a senior officer — not a commander. The rank of commander is one step below captain.
Posted by: Jordan | September 7, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Talking about the weaker sex. Let the whinning begin. He has had it so easy in the media for so long, he won’t know how to handle all the ill words directed at him. Answer the charges or shut up. Every media outlet boombarded Palin and her family relentously. Have you heard her whinning? Come on big guy the BIG O will help you find the SECRET in not being a whinner. I recall how he told us to lay off his misses, but the media had a hay day with a 17 year old, and a baby. Everything about this man is unbalanced. I am so weary of the HOLLIE WOOD SECT trying to change our society. Maybe the little O will like some cheese with that whine.
Posted by: bart | September 7, 2008, 12:41 am 12:41 am
A Pit-bull wearing lipstick is just an animal wearing cosmetics. Is that what Palin is telling us she is?
Posted by: Mc Mary | September 7, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Events in the past two weeks reveal the deep contempt the Republican Party has for America and for most Americans. I’m sick of them. They have no business getting anywhere near our government. Their only goal is to destroy everything good about this country, to rob the treasury, and to turn our nation into a third world economy, the better to rob resources, pollute at will, peddle unsafe products and exploit labor.
The only reason the Republican Party opposes abortion is because they want more poor people to serve as cheap labor. Tom Delay was very clear about that purpose, in speaking to a young Republicans convention.
Posted by: Laura | September 7, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
McCain mentioned being a POW many times (40-50)during his Convention Speech. Come on, I know as we age we remember the past better than the present, but 40 years ago being constantly mentioned is just lame. McCain has been a senator for 26 years. What has he done in the senate? We are not electing a POW to be our leader. We need someone smart. Someone who will have the intelligence to look at all the issues and work with all the affected parties. Senator Obama is the man to lead America to a better place. Poison tongued Palin is not going to be must help since all her lies are coming out. She may be able to hunt and fish and watch kids play hockey, but that does not qualify her for the highest office in the country or the second highest.
Posted by: Vicki | September 7, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
NinaK:
Correction: It’s “witness.” Thou shalt not bear false WITNESS.
Basically, don’t lie about people. Don’t misrepresent and lie about what people say or do. Both parties do this all the time.
As for judging, it goes: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
The verse is not saying that you cannot judge, but is telling you to be very careful about HOW you judge, because the way you judge is the way YOU are going to be judged in return….
Both parties impugn each others motives in the worst ways — and it all come back to them — just like the verse says.
Just thought I’d help you out there…. :-)
Posted by: Grant | September 7, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
“I know how to win wars” John McCain
Except that one in Vietnam, I was a POW remember, so that one doesn’t count as a win.
Posted by: Double Talk Express | September 7, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
The left can’t help themselves. Their vile attacks on a 17 year old girl will forever haunt them. You have shown your true nature and we will never let you forget it.
LIBERAL=SEXIST
Posted by: julia | September 7, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am
No, Bart, we haven’t heard her whining because the Republicans are too afraid to let her talk to the Press.
Posted by: mila | September 7, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Vicki If you think McCain has no record in the Senate or has no history of strong bi-partisan work then you really need to do your homework. Obama hasn’t even completed a first term in the US Senate and has spent most of it either doing exploratory committees around a Presidential bid and then the rest of it campaigning for President. He never held any hearings in his stewardship on the foreign relations sub-committee, he has an abysmal record of showing up to vote because he’s been campaigning (so does McCain but McCain’s put in almost 30 years while Obama has put in only about 143 days).
Not agreeing with McCain’s positions is one thing but believing this guy has had no major accomplishments in his Senate career just shows how very little you know about McCain. It’s your candidate that has a slim resume .
Posted by: alpaig52 | September 7, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
Palin brings prayer dynamically back into American lives if Bush/McCain is elected: “Oh please God almighty, allow continued health and vigor for John McCain, for with his passing, certainly will the liberties we all enjoy come into extreme danger of being forfeit” Mr. McCain is guaranteed the best wishes of his fellow Americans…. The presence of Palin on the GOP ticket is profoundly troubling. My prayers that he loses.
Posted by: curtis | September 7, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
What Obama said is exactly what I was thinking. What a total disconnect!
Who was responsible for choosing the speakers and coordinating the speechwriters? Reviewing the speeches? Making sure everyone was on-message so a coherent message would be sent and received? That’s the sort of thing Rove is known for, and every speech was similar…EXCEPT for McCain’s. Why was he the one person left out of the loop?
If McCain can’t even manage his own convention, or if he left it to incompetents, that raises questions of how he’d operate as President. Would he not be in control as President either?
I’m just sayin’….
Posted by: Tom J | September 7, 2008, 1:04 am 1:04 am
Who was it who decided to accept the nomination for VP of a party that promotes abstinence-only, knowing her 17 yr old daughter was pregnant? Oh yeah, Sarah Palin. We’re not attacking her dear, we’re reveling in the irony.
Not haunted/not sexist
Posted by: mila | September 7, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Mila:
There have been some very real attacks, some suggesting that Bristol’s continuing pregnancy means Palin is FORCING her to have an unwanted baby.
Perhaps you have not seen much of these attacks, but it has been very ugly.
Some it seemed to imply that to Democrats (some of them anyway) choice actually equates to abortion — because choosing to have the baby is such an inconceivable choice.
Posted by: Barbara | September 7, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
It’s a long boxing match… Biden and the other surrogates jab and punch, then Obama weaves and bobs and cries foul!
Obama couldn’t even get the nerve up to debate McCain face-to-face at Saddleback.
It’s a nice tactic, but c’mon, it’s not going to work with the rest of the world. You’re gonna try this stuff on Chavez… the Mayanmar junta, Crazy Kim in NoKo (who is enriching uranium again) – or Akhma-whats-his-name of Iran?
Senator Obama… if you want to be treated like one of the big boys, maybe you should start by cutting out the whining.
Posted by: diamond lou | September 7, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
NO WAY,NO HOW,NO OBAMA.
=======================
SARAH PALIN ROCKS……..
COUNTRY FIRST……….
Posted by: ROBERT | September 7, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Have the Obama supporters ever even listened to their candidate? I’m not an Obama supporter but I totally respect much of what he says and it’s too bad his supporters don’t. Obama has stood up on a podium and said that the Democrats do not have a monopoly on good ideas. He has stressed the need for more bi-partisan work. He stood on a podium in PA and said he wanted to bring us back to the foreign policy traditions of Bush Sr. and Reagan, both Republicans. The vile hate, fear mongering and ignorance spewed from the Obama supporters towards those who do not share their political beliefs is reprehensible. If people want to direct hate at the axis of evil- Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld and their getting us into an unnecessary war the fine, I’m right along with you. But George W is his own man as is McCain and Obama. The state of the economy is an area though where both the Republicans and Democrats share equal blame starting before even Bush got in. Clinton’s buddying up with the Republicans in 1999 and deregulating the banking industry certainly didn’t do any of any favors. Biden supported the bankruptcy reform bill making it more difficult to file bankruptcy and Obama seemed to think that interest rates on credit cards surpassing 30% was not unreasonable and a good portion of the money from the housing bill recently passed will be going to ACORN, who have a long relationship with the Democrats and Pelosi and her husband investing money in T. Bone Pickens ensures we’ll see money going in his direction. There are a bunch of intelligent people in Congress who have lost their way whether it be getting bundled money from the oil industry or being in the pocket of the NEA or ACORN. It does need to be cleaned up .
Posted by: alpaig52 | September 7, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Mila I worked for a decade at Planned Parenthood and a decade in the HIV field
and I can comfortably say that I don’t care whether you have pro-choice or
pro-life parents, whether your teenager
gets abstinence based sex education or the most comprehensive sex education we can provide- teenagers still get
pregnant- so I see little irony here.
I just see ignorance. If anyone should understand this it should be those who support choice.
Posted by: alpaig52 | September 7, 2008, 1:22 am 1:22 am
I am so glad that the Republican Party has shrunk to only 27% of the population. They are obviously not rational people. How could you possibly have lived in American for the past 8 years and still think that McCain should be in the President’s Office. If they would think with their head and keep their lemming-like irrational emotions out of it, then they would see that America seriously needs a new change in leadership and direction. I’ve read the majority of these posts and like their party, those posts favoring McCain have been the nastiest ones here. Why can’t you people accept other points of view without having to namecalling or being offensive about it. It’s probably because deep in your hearts you know that you don’t have a leg to stand on. Instead of supporting your viewpoints with facts, you just make derisive and mudslinging comments. Well, you can say whatever you like; however, the majority of Americans have enough sense to know that we desperately need the Republicans out of the White House, so we can grow and prosper as a nation once again.
Posted by: Rose Black | September 7, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am
alpaig52:
No offense to anyone, but you seem to be one of the most sensible people on here….
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
I was wondering since John McCain wants to “drill, drill, and drill” would he ask that the new off shore oil fields be used for American only consumption and that the price be at discounted levels.
Posted by: Bill | September 7, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
America!?! Wake UP! Obama’s job is NOT to fix every little thing in Washington or bring his breadth of experience to the office – LOOK what experience has been doing for us for YEARS NOW??? It will take years and years of reform and policy work across party lines to actually make that happen. His job is simply to INSPIRE people to MAKE CHANGES IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES to VOTE to have FAITH IN THE PROCESS so that we can DO THIS IN OUR OWN COMMUNITIES. THAT is the sort of change that the young people are clinging to. Because for years and years and all the years that I’ve been alive, I’ve never believed in the government – I’ve only ever believed in people in my community and local government. Watch him speak – it makes you think differently about the world and life. That is NOT something you see or hear everyday. This man is something from a history book. We haven’t had that in a long-ass time, if ever. I continue to donate, volunteer, make calls, rally communities and build support for this man. I beg you to get on board and pray to God that the wars and divisiveness ends. God bless BHO and his team. We are REALLY going to do this.
Posted by: jackie | September 7, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Barbara, what I’m saying is that Palin made the CHOICE to accept the VP nomination at this time, knowing her daughter’s situation. Yes I’ve seen some of the nasty stories, but, come on, Palin’s a big girl, she’s run for office before and has to know what the Press is like. She CHOOSE to subject her daughter to that by accepting. She herself said back in March that Hillary was not doing herself any good by WHINING (her word) about sexism in the media, so she KNEW the kind of stuff that was heading her way. Unless you think she’s naive, in which case, do you really want a naive VP?
Posted by: mila | September 7, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
I just got done looking at The Obama campaign website and after looking at his laundry list under issues “Are YOU CRAZY”. Who is gonna pay for all this crap he wants to do, the tooth fairy? Santa? This guy brings change alright, RADICAL CHANGE. He will single handedly force business to head over sea, ruin Health Care, and create worthless government jobs and social programs that we can’t afford. We already can’t afford the ones we got now. He wants to end world poverty at taxpayer expense buy funding it with 150 billion dollars. The list goes on and on. He would be a reckless commander in chief that Putin and our other enemies would certainly exploit. Wonder who they would vote for? He thinks he’s running for the World presidency. Are we world citizen’s now, and not Americans? Why was he giving speeches to rallies in Germany? America can’t afford Obama people so get real. We don’t need POLAR CHANGE we need the kinda change the Palin will bring to Washington. We need to clean up the do nothing’s and corrupted politician’s and get rid of the log jam, and have the government start working for the people. They need to start addressing the real issues like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,energy and the national debt. The constitution does not provide the government to be the answer for everything. We need to follow it and quit screwing around with EVERYTHING. Palin will see what’s going on and begin addressing the waste, corruption, and management of the people’s money.
Posted by: ralph | September 7, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
OBAMA IS FAKE…..HE WANTS TO BE
PRESIDENT FOR HIS OWN INTERESTS ONLY.
Posted by: ROBERT | September 7, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am
McCain’s failed before. It will only hurt his ego after his third failed try at the presidency. With the campaign he is running, he deserves no respect.
Posted by: kravitz | September 7, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
JACKIE: You are right on! I get inspired by Obama also. I KNOW he WILL do the right thing for America!
Posted by: Kim | September 7, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
It’s time for us to pay the taxes we owe for the war we once supported and move on with fixing the mess Bush has made. McCain knew the Tax Policy Center said Obama’s plan was better. But Rick Davis and Karl Rove insisted he lit about that too. Christie Todd Whitman said it nicely…she’s not a fan of a guy who campaigns by insisting “you’re wrong, you’re evil, and I will do away with you.” (Now, PBS)
Posted by: kravitz | September 7, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am
Jackie;
If what you write is what you really believe, I politely suggest that you are voting for the wrong man. If you believe that good is something that results from our individual efforts working in our own communities, you should be voting Libertarian — for Bob Barr this year.
Sorry, I understand that you hope for the best with Obama, but both of the major parties are now premised upon the idea that good can only come from government. Their power comes from increasing government size/programs — something that neither party is inclined to give up.
It takes courage to look outside the Two Party System. I wish that more would gain that courage.
Posted by: Eric | September 7, 2008, 1:51 am 1:51 am
E DONE DO YOU WATCH THE NEWS? OBAMA IS RUNNING FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. FOR ALL OF YOU THAT PRAISE PALIN GO TO NEWSWEEK AND READ THE REAL PALIN. SHE HAS A LOT OF ISSUES TO BE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.LINDA N NORTH CAROLINA. YOU HAS DEFENED THE DEMOCRATIC DENOMINATION GRACIOUSLY. I PRAY FOR OBAMA AND HIS CAMPAIGN
Posted by: Wanda | September 7, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
The lead that Obama is commanding has shrinked further …
The latest Gallup puts Obama at 47% (down 1%) and McCain at 45%. This is NOT taking into consideration the full comvention bounce for McCain/Palin.
The race is now officially TOO CLOSE TO CALL.
Posted by: Honey, I shrunk the lead | September 7, 2008, 1:56 am 1:56 am
The lead that Obama is commanding has shrinked further …
The latest Gallup puts Obama at 47% (down 1%) and McCain at 45%. This is NOT taking into consideration the full comvention bounce for McCain/Palin.
The race is now officially TOO CLOSE TO CALL.
Posted by: Honey, I shrunk the lead | September 7, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
OBAMA IS FAKE…..HE WANTS TO BE
PRESIDENT FOR HIS OWN INTERESTS ONLY.
OBAMA IS AN OPPORTUNIST…NOT EVEN ONE
TERM SENATOR….AND HE RUN FOR PRESIDENT…..THINK ABOUT THAT….
I DON’T TRUST OBAMA……
Posted by: ROBERT | September 7, 2008, 2:04 am 2:04 am
Has anyone really taken a close physical look at John McCain lately? He looks tired and beaten (or perhaps just old next to Sara Palin’s manic energy). The former McCain could win MY vote, and I’m a Democrat. The new John McCain is allowing himself to be handled and sold out (tragic after the brave stance he took in Viet Nam.)
As we get older, we look back at the sum total of our lives. How must McCain feel to know that he is leaving this planet a defeated soul? It’s tragic. McCain says FIGHT. I say, McCain FIGHT for what you really believe in!
WRT Sarah Palin….just wait! She is getting vetted fast. You don’t acquire the name Baracuda for NO reason. Frankly, I like her folksy/mince no words/spunky/Annie Oakley delivery. If she didn’t stand for everything I disagree with I would vote for her. Instead she’s the most conservative candidate we’ve seen in decades. Let’s not be fooled by presentation; this isn’t a Prom Queen contest! This ticket may ver well determine the FATE of the Planet. Really, it’s no laughing matter.
Being pro choice (and pro life – you don’t have to be anti choice to be pro life), pro sex education, pro constitution, pro community involvement (just like Barack Obama admirably contributed after graduating from college), anti genocide (like the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis slaughtered in the name of the USA), anti “Onward Christian Soldiers,” pro Veteran’s benefits (my husband flew a B52 during the Viet Nam war and lost his soul; he needed help to heal), pro spiritual values, pro treating your neighbor as yourself (now there’s a concept), pro prayer, pro peace, pro global oneness. Well, that’s a lot of ‘beingness,” isn’t it. Rodney King said after the Watts riots in LA “Can’t we all get along?” Now that is a good question. Is it possible for the inhabitants of this planet to get along? What would it take to seed the soil for acceptance and peace? That’s a far better question that the political devisiveness we see today. What is tragic, is that the WORLD is looking to us to get this right. Can we live up to their hopes and expectations?
Posted by: CD | September 7, 2008, 2:08 am 2:08 am
Sorry alpaig52, the irony I was referring to was that the Republican party is suddenly embracing teen pregnancy when in the past they have condemned it. And the fact that they promote the abstinence-only
policy as the only form of birth control and protection from STDs. I am personally very happy for young Bristol and wish her all the best. It would be nice if all young women in her situation had the kind of support, both emotionally and financially, that she is receiving. Perhaps her mother will remember that in her budget next time she uses her line item veto to cut spending for housing pregnant teens. How’s that for irony…
Posted by: mila | September 7, 2008, 2:12 am 2:12 am
Mila,
That housing budget was actually increased, not decreased. The proposal was for a huge increase in spending, but Palin reduced the amount of that increase, which still amounted to a net increase.
Democratic spin doctors figured they would just report it as a cut, however, in order to energize Democrats against her.
On the other side, Republicans spin doctors can claim that Palin cut spending, even though she increased it.
Is it not a scary thing how the political machine tries to manipulate ALL of us…?
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
The only thing that can explain why the Republicans are running neck and neck with the democrats is that American’s just haven’t experienced enough pain from the economic mismanagement of the Bush administration. Well, ok, let’s give the republicans another 4 years and see how far and how fast this country goes down in that time.
Posted by: Shawn | September 7, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
McCain would like nothing better than to see our economy collapse so he could get more recruits for his hundred hundred years wars.
Posted by: McCain makes me sick | September 7, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
McCain’s campaign manager Rick Davis said that this election is not about the issues, Obama needs to keep repeating what he said because Americans are hurting and to McCain it isn’t about the issues?
Posted by: Kathy | September 7, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
Giving the Republicans Another Four Years…? How about not…?
Can we agree that the reason there is so much animosity between Democrats and Republicans is from the fear of what the other will do to them if elected…? Democrats fear what Republicans will do and Republicans fear what Democrats will do.
But WHY is each side so afraid of the other…? I mean, the Constitution of the United States prohibits the government from doing harm to any of us!
Basically, the government has become accustomed to operating largely OUTSIDE of the constitution — and it is the unconstitutional abuse of power that each side fears from the other — with good reason. They both have a track record.
Our culture has become very, very aggressive. We need to understand that the plethora of laws made by our government are based upon aggression. (You WILL comply with this rule or we will draw our weapons….) When a law or regulation is enacted by our government, we need to understand that we are no longer dealing with each other in the realm of reason, but in the realm of force and aggression.
What would be the worst thing that could happen to you if your unfavorite political party got elected — but they still operated within the constitution…? Well, they might be annoying.
That’s not where we are at though. We stay awake at night, dreading what the opposing party is going to do. We fear each other in this aggressive society, but we would not need to fear each other if we operated within the realm of reason — and the constitution.
But when you ask congress to abide by the constitution they will call you a kook. Ask them if they want to just discard the constitution and they will cling to it reverentially.
But why don’t Democrats and Republicans insist that the other abide by the rulebook when thy are not in power…? Well, both sides cooperate with the other’s mischief because they believe that they will eventually get back in power — and then it will be their turn. They are content to wait.
This country needs a revolution.
Bob Barr ’08
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
“McCain’s campaign manager Rick Davis said that this election is not about the issues, Obama needs to keep repeating what he said because Americans are hurting and to McCain it isn’t about the issues? ”
Yes and Barry has all the answers. Don’t worry that he has no accomplishments to speak of and has never lead anything…nada.
Posted by: Mack | September 7, 2008, 3:22 am 3:22 am
This is a good start, but Obama has to do better than this. Palin is getting away with murder and nobody from the Obama camp is challenging her.
If she doesn’t have enough courage to face the American press corps, how is she going to face America’s enemies???
I found her speech vindictive, juvenile, and shallow. She would be a disaster as president or VP.
Posted by: Di | September 7, 2008, 3:26 am 3:26 am
KEEP IN MIND that the pollsters do not keep ceel phone lists and therefore their results by definition are skewed. The majority of people under 30 do not have a landline, and that is going to be the critical demographic in this election.
Posted by: Haniel | September 7, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
You could be right, Carol, about the budget thing, but I still think cutting the budget for pregnant teenagers’housing does not play well considering Palin has a pregnant teenage daughter who is fortunate enough to have a place to live. I know we’re constantly being spun, but though I hate the stuff from the right, I get a warm fuzzy feeling from the stuff on the left! Peace out!
Posted by: mila | September 7, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
No. The rancor from democrats (or at least those I speak for) isn’t fear of what Republicans will do, it is RAGE at what they HAVE DONE and want to CONTINUE TO DO.
As far as Republican fears of what a democrat will do, well, were you around during the Clinton years? Do I have repeat AGAIN how the poor got richer and the rich got richer? Is this and the surplus left for Junior’s squandering amusement not legendary by now?
Do you people EVER THINK FOR YOURSELVES?!
I mean, hey, no offense but for gawdsakes,man! When are you going to SNAP OUT OF IT and start voting for your better interests?
Posted by: Haniel | September 7, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
Well, Haniel, if you want me to rephrase my post in terms of rage, I suppose I can do that. I tend to be more peaceful than that, but OK. :-)
I can say with certainty that many Republicans are enraged at what Democrats have done in the past and what they promise to do in the future. You have already spoken for Democrats so their righteous rage is thus noted!
It doesn’t make much difference if we use the word fear or rage though. The evils that enraged you courtesy of Republicans were committed outside the bounds of the constitution. The same is true the other way around — though you may not prefer to acknowledge that the liberal agenda has victims who suffer at its hands.
Let’s be reasonable: If the liberal position resulted in Shangri-La for everyone, we’d all want it, right…? And if the Republican position resulted in universal bliss we’d all want that. The fact is that the liberal agenda is achieved at someone’s expense — as is the Republican agenda. They are both win/lose philosophies, and to accept them you have to value certain people more than others.
The defining characteristic of the libertarian agenda is that it has no VICTIMS. You can’t tyrannize anyone to achieve a goal for yourself or for someone else. It has to be win/win or no deal.
Well, I guess I can’t vote for “my” better interests when someone else will have to pay the price. That would seem parasitical. And it would be very hard to pick between Republican and Democrats anyway — as they are nearly identical.
Yeah, it’s pretty frustrating in my camp a lot of the time. I guess I’d just like to see people choose reason over coercion. I certainly can’t need instant gratification or I’d be a goner. :-)
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am
Who is that guy McCain on the Palin ticket?
Posted by: susan | September 7, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am
BO “But when it starts getting personal, when you start just focusing exclusively on trying to tear the other person down instead of what you are going to do on behalf of the American people…”
Obama, during his acceptance speech mentions McCain 21 times… on the other hand McCain mentions Obama only 6 times. So? Who exactly is getting personal.
And by the way, McCain paid for air time to congratulate Obama… is this the response?
McCain called to congratulate Biden on his nomination… what was the response to the Palin selection? Not even a 3am phone call!
Posted by: diamond lou | September 7, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am
Palin=extremist.
He picked her, and sold out his country. If he wins and he dies in office we are so down the toilet.
Posted by: Malkittens | September 7, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am
58 days until election. Who is Sarah Palin and why is she ducking the press? Today’s TV shows include Barack Obama on ABC “This Week”, John McCain on CBS “Face the Nation”, and Joe Biden on NBC “Meet the Press”. FOX NEWS Sunday has Obama chief strategist David Axelrod and McCain campaign strategist Rick Davis. Where is Sarah Palin? Is she afraid to face the media and answer tough questions? Or do Republicans believe these mainstream news shows are biased (even though McCain himself is appearing). Palin needs to be held accountable for posisitions she has taken. I hope the hell someone on Face the Nation asks McCain specifically why she has decided not to face the media and answer questions about her positions and her experience. Meanwhile, the clock is ticking towards the election on we don’t know who Sarah Palin is except for what Republicans want us to know or what Republicans deride as media attack. Why is Palin afraid?
Posted by: indy_voterr | September 7, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am
obama ‘served papers’…even if it’s true…
unless it’s from the US government or courts he does not need to respond…
and even then it can be months before then, and after he’s president he’ll have priviledge and immunity…
btw: there are constitutional questions over mccains citizenship…he was born in the canal zone, and the laws not changed until after his birth, and not retroactive…he may NOT be a natural born citizen
but that is not the point..mccain would be bad for America
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am
It was a very odd convention. Didn’t John McCain know the content of the speeches from Rudy to Mitt to Fred to the snide, snarky, and sarcastic Sarah Palin?
The other odd thing has been the co-opting of the change message. And the speeches made you wonder if these people thought aliens had been in charge of Washington for 8 years. It was more like we have seen the enemy and it is us.
Posted by: Sandy | September 7, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am
the obama camp is right…
do not ‘centalize’ palin, do not give her any importance…marginalize
let her become the celeb, the paris hilton
give her enough rope to hang herself…
she’s not smart, nor educated…biden will dispatch her in the debate…
she’s a talking head and a cheap ‘trick’ to win over the uber jesus freaks and women (women are not dumb, it’s an insult from mccain to think so)
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am
diamond lou
the times obama mentioned mccain he was complementing him a few, and referencing his policies, NOT taking cheap shots…listen to the speach
obama DID call palin and congratulate her…the very next morning…
people, start thinking for yourselves instead of regurgitating what your favorite media source feeds you…
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
just reepat the message:
repub president for the last 8 years
repub congress the first 6
the war, 4000+ dead
600 bil (2 tril long term)
x00,000 dead civies
‘Stan unravelling
no OBL
huge trade deficit
huge budget deficit
housing meltdown
market 11000 in 2000, 11000 in 2008
incomes going down, prices up
many, many repubs indicted & convicted..
the latest, stevens of AK
the repubs are their own worst enemy
just state the facts
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Obama whined when Hillary said anything about him, he whines now when Palin and McCain talk about him.
Poor Obama, the victim.
How does he think he is going to act in the Presidency when everyone is questioning every thing he does?
“Putin thinks I’m a Muslim. Boo-Hoo.”
Posted by: Zank | September 7, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
Zank,
So, where is McCain’s credibility with Putin when he introduces his vice-president as experienced with Russian affairs because Alaska borders it? As for the victim card….don’t be hypocritical….Republicans have already begun playing the victim card with Palin….poor young, mother being picked on b.s.
Posted by: indy_voter | September 7, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
All Democrats need to do is point to the absurdities and hypocrisy in Republicans. They are regular people…with their seven homes and $300,000 outfits…They are uniters not dividers….with the clearly partisan tone from the convention….That they are for country first…..but continue to support policies that gives American assets and jobs away….That they are reformers but have been part of Washington for 26 years and have been in charge for the last 8…That they support freedom and beat their chests about soldiers fighting that freedom but do everything they can to take that freedom away…The Republican changed long ago to the party of hypocrites, childlishness, and exalting mediocrity. Reagan had a message and could communicate the message. Republicans now have no message and would rather communicate imagery (such as Palin for VP)…
Posted by: indy_voter | September 7, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
in the last 8 tears we have become:
isolated
weaker
lost credibility
NK got nukes
Iran is closer
China holds the world pursestrings, and is willing to use the leverage
Russia is stronger, and controls europe via energy flow
we have lost close to 4500 good Americans, for what? fighting what dik cheney called a ‘handful’ of terrorists?
mission accomplished, war over in < 6 months and 50 bil$…
just keep stating the facts…
stay on point
let the repubs ignore the issues, and keep making personal attacks…
I have every confidence the American people will see thru this charade
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
The Republicans whine and attack as if they are cornered. This is a well deserved panic, given that ordinary Americans have been victimized by that party for eight years: people who aren’t rich, aren’t lobbyists, and and don’t work for oil companies, who have seen their incomes drop and their young people killed and maimed in a dishonest war. Enough.
Posted by: Iris | September 7, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
noooo, global warming isn’t real not at all, listen to Sarah Palin, she said it isn’t real, with ice shelves in the Arctic the size of Manhattan breaking off last week and Cat 4 hurricanes now a regular occurrence in the gulf why would anyone think global warming is real? ignore the problem like Bush has done, like John McCain would no doubt do as well. Obama wants to get straight to work dealing with this serious problem by creating new green energy jobs while combating the effects of this very real catastrophic condition, but what does Obama know.. kill the polar bears, kill the Alaskan wolves from a plane like a coward! pollute some more! give huge tax breaks to big oil and whatever you do don’t end the war in Iraq, I mean what would Sarah Palin do? all of that and more! Vote for McCain and make the dream come true?
Posted by: Democrats 08 | September 7, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
in the long run it doesn’t matter…
obama, may or may not, help us
mccain won’t and can’t
the congress will be even more democratically controlled after this election…he will be stymied…
so the choice:
mccain, stalemate and 4 more years of the same with a 50/50 cance of him croaking and a lunatic taking over
or
obama…at least he’ll be able to get some things done with the cooperation of congress…let’s not forget how important that is…bush had a repub congress for 6 years, and STILL got nothing done…
honestly, it makes little difference, but I would like to see the possibility for improvement to have a chance
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
You know what gets me…? How people impugn the motives of others and caricaturize them in the basest terms.
You may not like conservative ideas, for instance. But you hadn’t even heard of Palin a few days ago, and suddenly she is evil incarnate. She’s a “lunatic.”
Have any of you taken a moment to check out why she votes the way she does…? What is the philosophy behind her decisions…? Maybe if you did you would learn that she is not motivated by the things you assume. And many Republicans would be surprised here as well….
Many here are quick to assume that Palin is stupid because she wasn’t educated at Harvard, because she has lived in Alaska (which makes one stupid how…?) or because she isn’t hitting the media yet — but I think you will underestimate her at your peril.
Don’t you think it would be better if Democrats and Republicans really looked inside themselves and admitted a few things…?
Like, do Republicans really WANT children to not have health care…? Seriously now. Do you really think that anyone wants children to suffer…? And if you do think that about other people, what does that say about you…?
How about being honest with yourselves? How about saying, “All people want children to grow up healthy and well fed. We disagree on the way to make that happen.” Then you need not give yourselves heart failure by thinking someone like Palin is consummate evil and wants to starve your children.
Maybe you could work towards win/win instead of win/lose.
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
the mccain campaign will not allow palin to speak to the press…it was just stated by davis
anybody who thinks the earth is 5000 yrs old and the victim of a rape shouldn’t have a choice in their own life, is a lunatic
she’s a liar and apparently brainless…
I can’t wait until she’s interviewed without a teleprompter…
can you say ‘stepford’?
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
I thought that “pitbulls with lipstick” not only could GIVE it but also could TAKE it! I was done with the Republican bully tactics at the last election. America cannot possibly have such a short memory. Sarah Palin is the “hanging chads” of this election. What a shame that this is what the political landscape of the last decade will be remembered by in the history books.
Posted by: Nelle | September 7, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
I have ‘faith’, in a higher power and science…
unlike, apparently from reading here, most obama supporters, I am not a star-struck, islamic terrorist…
I want what’s best for OUR Country…
anybody who truely believes in their heart AND mind that the earth was created 5000 years ago, and started with 2 people placed here by god, is insane…
the fact that she believes her religion (wetf it is, she’s had 3 or 4)to be the only true one in this entire unbounded universe, is exclusionary (much like the repubs with minorites/gays/poor/etc.) and must be disheartening news to all the jews, muslims, bhudists, etc.
this woman is a bad person and is ANTI-Christian…she diametrially opposed to all its values…
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Nelle:
I haven’t heard Palin complaining about the attacks against her. Republican voters may have complained about the attacks, but as far as I can see, Palin has been holding up under them very well.
Posted by: Barb | September 7, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Wow Arthur!
You wrote “This woman is a bad person and anti-Christian.”
You represent well what is so amazing to Republicans. The Party of Tolerance is so unbelievably intolerant of anyone who disagrees with them.
First of all, when you judge someone to be a “bad person” you are basically saying that YOU are the judge of good and evil — that you are the source of truth in the unbounded universe. I don’t really think you really intended to go there, but you did…
You have stated your contempt for certain religious ideas but then cast yourself in the role of being able to determine what is and what isn’t Christian. They haven’t got that figured out themselves, so I hardly think you do.
Insanity is a legal definition, not a psychological definition. I think you are trying to say that you don’t find Palin to be rational, but what you actually said was that she should not be held legally accountable for her choices, due to an inability to differentiate between right and wrong.
When you judge her as brainless for not going before the press at this time, you are stubbornly refusing to look at the existence of alternatives — as if the ONLY possible reason for this choice were her ineptitude — not strategy.
How about looking at other people as complex human beings…? Then you won’t be so utterly blind-sided should Palin meet the press and perform well. Maybe you could even wish her well…?
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
palin and the gas pipeline
anybody here actul know what this is?
no pipeline is built, nor has it been started…nowhere near being started…
my understanding, correct me if I’m wrong:
she gave 500mil to a CANADIAN company to incentivize them to build it…
that’s socialism…paying a private, non-US for profit corporation to build something they will profit from…
if it made economic sense, they would do it on their own…it’s not like the oil/gas companies have any shortage of $$$ or profit…but why spend their money when the government will ante up…
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
If Sarah Palin is “ready on day one” then why is she and the Republicans so afraid to have her face the “evil media” (who McCain called his base). I agree with indy_voterr, they afraid to have her stand on her own two feet. The McCain camps says she is telling us who she is “in her own words”… does that mean she wrote her own speech? I’d love to have heard her speech before they rewrote it. We might have gotten a glimpse of who Sarah Palin really is.
Posted by: Craig | September 7, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
btw: this project has been in the works since I lived there in the 80′s, it’s nothing new…
and some say won’t be completed for 10 to 20 years…if ever…
there is 100 years of NG in the lower 48, much more accessible…much cheaper…
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
craig
her speech was written by a bush speechwriter 3 weeks before she was picked…it was written for a man, and re-written for her…
she had nothing to do with it…
she’s like a game show girl…hyping mccain and lavishing praise on him, while taking shots at others…he sits tere like a dirty old man checking her ass out…it’s a bit creepy…
his wife is a beauty queen too..
he goes for those women of substance
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Zogby International
McCain-Palin
49.7%
Obama-Biden
45.9%
Gallup daily
McCain 48%
Obama 45%
And this still doesn’t reflect the full RNC bounce
Posted by: ralph | September 7, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
the democrats have registered >2 mil new voters since Jan
the repubs have lost 1/2 mil off their rolls
some polls have each ahead,some have it even…
only the vote will determine the winner
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Arthur,
It is a distortion in cognition to think you know the motives of others. How do you know Palin is ego-driven, for instance…? Or do you just like to think she is? Was Hillary ego-driven? Now, Palin “might” be ego-driven, but I don’t think you have enough insight into her inner workings to make that call.
Palin was asked to be VP. She did not actively campaign for this position. On the other hand, Obama started campaigning for the presidency shortly after he achieved star status at the Democratic convention several years back. Are you willing to consider that he might be ego-driven as well…?
It is also distorted thinking to conclude that if your position is the opposite of something you don’t like, your position must be good. How about considering the idea that you might both be mistaken…?
But if you are to be consistent in your belief that the opposite of what you hate is good, and Christians (SOME of them) dismiss the religions of others, why would you not see this as good…? I mean, these religions also have beliefs that you would consider to be lunacy. Dismissing them must therefore be good in your book….
It seems to me Arthur, that you pick and choose which religions you think are “insane,” as you put it. You don’t happen to like right-wing Christians, so their religious views are to be marginalized, but the beliefs of Jews and Buddhists are OK, since large numbers of them happen to be on your side of the political fence.
BTW, I am not a right-wing Christian — or even a Christian — at least as it is currently defined by the right wing. That is something you only assumed — as it seems you have a tendency to mind-reading, attribution of motives and such.
Posted by: carol | September 7, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
9/5 rassmussen obama>mccain 49-46 3000 polled
9/4
gallup obama 48/44 2800
diageo obama 46/40
all 260 polls to date: nice reference
with an average line calculated…
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
carol
I never said you were christian, I can tell by your mindset you are not…
I said palin is a kook, a religious nut-job…and bad for the country & world…
you, perhaps just an agnostic psych-babbler?
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Arthur,
Please get your nomenclature straight!
Palin is not a socialist. You may not like her, which is fine with me, but at least be accurate about what she is and what she is not.
Socialism is not defined by paying a foreign company to do a job. Socialism is when the government takes control of an industry — when the government owns and controls business. That would be like Obama or Hillary wanting to “socialize” health care….
Oh, Obama is a socialist…? Pretty much. Now that you have learned that you actually like socialism, I trust that you will retract your accusation that Palin is a socialist too.
Posted by: Eric | September 7, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Arthur,
I take it that you did not like being analyzed on the internet. I take it that you did not think it just or fair that your entire life, your hopes and dreams, could all be summed up by a stranger you have never even met.
How about applying that sense of fair play to Palin? Her entire life is being summed up by strangers who think they comprehend the core of her being.
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
eric…
socialism is using public money to fund a business, any business, public or private…the government gets into business by doing so…it’s the first step…just like all the financial bailouts going on now, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac…the government is siezing those concerns…
the repubs have done 20 years damage to our economy…and don’t even know it
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Arthur,
You’ll get no argument from me about Fannie and Freddie. The government should be staying out of it. But Palin is not part of the Bush administration, so let’s not brand her a socialist. Her leanings are even a little bit libertarian.
That said, Democrats are also guilty of intervening in the private sector. I think it would be fair to say that if the Democrats were in power right now, they would also be intervening with Freddie and Fannie. I’m not saying they should, just that they would….
Neither of the 2 major parties advocate free enterprise.
Posted by: Eric | September 7, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
eric, you say socialism is bad…
well, 30 mil people or something work for some form of government
not counting the defense industry…
government is business in our system…
and business runs our government…
the line is blurred
healthcare: doesn’t the government pay a large % of all its revenue now? so why not get control of it?
or how about SS? welfare? goverment spending just to create public works jobs? or paying for college education?
if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…chances are it’s a duck
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Arthur,
Good grief, man! Can’t you see that you are doing exactly the same thing you accuse Palin of?
You are right and she is wrong!
If she disagrees with you, her core being is corrupt! She is evil, bad.
She will burn in hell….
I would hope that voters can be persuaded to look beyond the media caricatures and to see people as people — complex and basically good — but with different ideas as to how to achieve their common goals.
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
carol
I hope she lives to 100…but not with any impact in my life…
I know OJ simpson is bad, not convicted of anything, but yet bad…
palin, I know her type…she is not good, which leaves only bad…
you seem enamoured by her, good, cast your vote…but don’t try to convince me to reconsider my opinion of her…
she will be very bad for the Country
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Arthur,
I am not sure what you are trying to say. On the one hand you seem to be accusing Palin of being a socialist, as if that were bad, and on the other hand you seem to be defending socialism.
Personally, I happen to abhor the long arm of government in every facet of our lives. I think that most societal ills have been created by the government — and that liberty is the solution, not more government.
Posted by: Eric | September 7, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Arthur,
You totally misunderstand me. I have no intention of voting for McCain/Palin because I do not agree with the Republican platform.
I don’t agree with the Republican platform but that doesn’t mean that I need to refer to Palin as consummate evil.
There may be some things about her that I don’t like. But there are other things about her that are commendable. Somehow you see only the bad and think it negates anything good about her. I see her as much more complex than that — a combination of strengths and weaknesses — like everyone else on earth.
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
I seldom get involved in these forums…
they are all the same…people never change, never compromise, waste of time…
I may be harsh, but the damage done to America, and how divided She is, hurts me…and it’s getting worse…neither side will blink…but it’s typically the repubs who say the dems aren’t Patriots…or god fearing
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
what will mccain change? will palin tick her own party off like she did in AK, for personal gain?
so instead of dems vs repubs gridlock
it’ll be a 3 way logjam, dems vs repubs vs admin…even less will get done…
honestly, I’m apolitical and disenheartened by the whole mess…so I drive on, looking out for me and mine…
btw: I’m the stereotypical repub; white male, ex-military, pretty well off, president of an engineering firm, like to hunt & fish…believe in family, god (of personal choice), country….
I remember JFK and lived thru viet nam, as much as I hated clinton, he was a good president…sorted the balkens out without losing 1 American…and it was a bloody mess, as bad as Iraq…
if I offended anyone, sorry, I’ll just learn to not ‘cruise the net’ lol
Posted by: Arthur | September 7, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
McCain has been in the Senate for almost 30 years. His campaign is running on change although the McBushies have been in charge of Washington for the last 8 years that brought us an almost bankrupt economy, endless war, high unemployment, Enron (and Keating Five), the Katrina debacle, etc, etc. McSlime’s change is more of the Rove playbook, dishonorable, cynical, lying about the issues, putting self before our beloved republic. That the polls have McShame and his unready to be commander-in-chief beauty queen running even with Obama, who has run a brilliant, clean campaign focused on resolving the enormous problems that we face tell us everything we wish we do not know about the place of race (and slimy politics) in the U.S. I am a senior citizen who is in despair for the future of our children and our planet.
Posted by: lin | September 7, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
I’m an ex-Republican turned Libertarian. I’m dismayed at how very aggressive our country has become — and I see it fueled by the major political parties.
My hope is that people will recognize that they all pretty much want the same things, but see different solutions. If they can get past the animosity maybe they could search for win/win solutions instead of thinking they can only achieve their goals if the other side loses.
I am currently raising my children. I am also the wife of an active-duty military physician who is serving in Afghanistan.
Peace out…. :-)
Posted by: Carol | September 7, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Nice bounce…
In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/— 3 points for both samples
Posted by: RealisticLib | September 7, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Obama, when you use our words, our thoughts on us, you don’t convince us, you repell us. ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN (just)WORDS. Don’t you come up with anything where there isn’t a whole dvd closet full of your contradictions?
Posted by: irma | September 8, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
Well, How about that Karl Rove, “Moderator” saying that BOTH sides need to be careful of their statements, how self serving ! It seems a very shrewd denial of the “Pig in lipstick” attack, where people like Fred Thompson were attacking Obama for phrases taken out of context.. And it translated like this: How dare (that black boy) attack and insult this fine upstanding innocent (white woman) by making such a slanderous and insulting statement ! Now, after this attack, to deny this racist attack, Rove is trying to position his team as a somehow fair minded neutral arbitor of fair play. What they want to do is to attempt to seek racial alienation and those who are receptive to that view , while posturing as if they are above that kind of thing… Classic Karl !
Posted by: curtis | September 15, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm