Obama Inflates Role in Creation of Stimulus Package

No surprise here.
McCain-Palin 2008.

This does not look good for Obama especially after he doctored the interview with Carly Fiorina (sp). Seems like he has no problem distorting the truth. Not good for a candidate who was going to be different.

Tim, spare me!

Tim, we will miss you. Why elect reformers when you can elect the candidate that has received more donations from Wall Street than anyone else on the ticket? Why support the Republicans when you can support the corrupt Democrats?
The New York Times reported this five years ago:
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
!!!!”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.

“That’s true. (McCain was there, and he voted for it.)”
That in itself is newsworthy given how many votes McCain missed.
Obama is wrong on to claim credit on this but I did notice this
“But though the bill that eventually passed more closely resembled Obama’s than either Clinton’s or McCain’s, those involved in the drafting of the legislation say it was more a matter of agreeing on a good idea.”

I’m sure that people will be talking about this at the dinner table tonight. Even the ones who are paying $28,000.

Once a community organizer, always a community organizer.

Obama has taken lying to a whole new level.

What I like about the blogs is that you don’t have to leave your name. With that said, even his supporters don’t believe this one.

OBAMA = CHANGE
McCAIN = CHUMP CHANGE
After the last 8 years, only a CHUMP would vote Republican.
OBAMA is a LEADER.
McCAIN is a LIAR.
Any questions?

Obama has perfected his lies to almost perfection.
I’m glad at least ONE reporter is calling him out — thank you, Jake.
Now, if only the rest of the MSM would start reporting the truth to the American people.

McCainonomics = unemployment and bank failures…enough said!

O-Bots claim Barack is different but cannot name a single reason why that is so. Hype and promises without substance is the diet of fools.

I don’t think you want to get into a discussion about “missing votes”… that’s not an argument Obama supporters can win.
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Actually McCain MISSED more votes than Obama did.
(Insert sarcastic comment about your lack of knowledge here)

OBAMA = CHANCE
McCAIN = CHANGE
After this past campaign only a CHUMP would vote Democratic
OBAMA is a CHEATER
McCAIN was a Flyer
whose desire to help went
higher.. who’s respected
in the Congress and in this
Country
McCain is tried and true!
Obama’s rather trying!
Any questions?

That’s some adept hair splitting their Jake. Is this the perfunctory, “balanced coverage” post? The inaccuracte story that helps “counterbalance” all of that factual “liberal bias”?
You should recall that this was an issue in the Democratic campaign and the fact that Obama’s plan ended up being the most effective politically viable option available was testament to his ability to push forward his agenda and his bipartisanship credentials. Shouldn’t he get credit for having forseen that, or did he have to invent new powers that allowed him to brute force determine what the legislation was going to be (i.e. through his ‘leadership’ get the entire Democratic caucus to heave Hillary overboard and embrace his candidacy)? In any case, isn’t it obvious that his profile having put it out there influenced the debate?
I call foul.

I love blackberries!
Thank you, John.

“I don’t think you want to get into a discussion about “missing votes”… that’s not an argument Obama supporters can win.”
Actually its one Obama supporters win easily.
Obama missed 11 votes during the 109th session of Congress. McCain missed 56 votes.
During the current session of Congress, Obama has missed 45.7% of the votes. McCain has missed a whooping 64%.

Notice that the Republican bloggers can deliver sarcastic remarks, yet have no way to justify their candidates ability.
OH WAIT! That’s just like Sarah Palin!
Now I see why they like her. They understand what it’s like to have no knowlegde and be in WAY over their heads!

Excuse me one second please…
I am really confused: Where is the over-inflation? Jake you made an observation and then you talked some more and then finally went back to your original observation. I just don’t see where your evidence for the ‘overinflation’ is. So you agree that the bill that passed closely resembles the one that Obama proposed in the primary? So who should claim credit for the idea? What is going on here? Obama didn’t hear read the bill and propose the idea, right? He proposed the idea and then the bill came along, right? Am I missing something crucial here? So where did he get the idea from? was someone already talking about it and Obama just picked it from somewhere? Until I hear something to indicate that the idea (rebate-focused package) originated someone other than his campaign, i am really willing to give him credit for this and I think people should too!
p.s. i remember all the proposed packages from the trail and have honestly been wondering why nobody has pointed out that the bill that passed resembled Obama’s more than any other candidate. Again, i think he is right to claim the credit where it is due. I think it is a shame to try to deny that.

I really don’t care if my capital gains taxes go up, I’d be glad to help the faulty economy!

“I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation.”
A bill that would have changed nothing and went nowhere in a Republican controlled Congress.

Well, Emily,
Some people have worked all their lives and the few stocks they have available to them…. are ALL they have.
And T H E Y might not be indifferent to their savings dripping away more quickly than they do now.
And what about the death taxes?

“And what about the death taxes?”
The estate tax was originally instituted by Teddy Roosevelt who saw it as a bulwark against American aristocracy.
Obama proposes freezing the estate tax at 2009 levels: a 45% tax rate on estates valued at more than $3.5 million. Married couples can combine their exemptions for a total of $7 million.
“By exempting all estates under $7 million, Obama’s plan will shield all but about 100 estates with small business income from any estate taxation,” said Obama campaign spokesman Nick Shapiro, citing the Congressional Budget Office’s 2005 study on the estate tax and further analysis by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. “Senator Obama’s plan would completely exempt 99.7% of estates from taxation.”

A new Financial Times/Harris Poll finds growing worldwide support for raising taxes on the wealthy.
The study of 8,748 adults in eight countries found that more than half of respondents in all countries believed the wealthy should be taxed more. Here are the soak-the rich rankings (i.e., the percentage of respondents from each country who said “The government should tax the wealthy more”):
Japan — 77%
Spain — 65%
Germany — 64%
U.S. — 62%
China — 60%
Italy — 59%
U.K — 56%
France — 51%

The Democrats have controlled both houses of congress since November of 2006.
BTW, what legislation did Barack Obama propose during his tenure to fix the abuses of Wall Street and the mortgage market that he seeks to at the feat of John McCain and the Republican Party?

It has been very difficult listening to the media calling McCain a liar over the past 3 days – knowing how Obama lies.
The fairness factor has been very difficult to watch.
Obama is also extremely linked to Freddie and Fannie – Obama is 2nd biggest recipient of political money from Freddie and Fannie. Chris Dodd is #1, and John Kerry #3.
Did the MSM cover that? And there is more on Obama links with the financial industry -
No, the MSM would have crucified McCain and Palin if it was them.
Silence on Obama

tim – let’s take a look at the real picture here! obama is touting he created that bill, his own party did not agree that he was the only voice that started the bill’s creation yet he still tout’s he did, McCain was there and did vote for the bill, but obama could not even show up to vote for a bill that he claims he started! action speaks louder than word’s! and the only action he seem’s to be good at is voting present or not even showing up. yet you feel McCain/Palin are not strong enough on the economy? what was obama’s problem? was he to lazy or drunk to get out of bed for a vote to help the American people or was he just busy month’s ahead of planning the fundraising event he’s having with barbara in cali, which i don’t even have faith enough he’ll show up? how can we trust obama when he said he’s the one that started something, but yet he can’t he even finish what he started. what are the American people going to do when he schedule’s a meeting with putin, but yet he can’t and won’t even show up! that is seriously a risk we can’t take! he is weak and the #1 liar in his party!

My God! If he was a Republican, that would be a lie!

Stephen Gianelli…Correction, Democrats won elections in 2006 but were not sworn until 2007. Since 2007, the Republicans have filibustered a record 80 times to obstruct the Democrats. More than anytime in the 220 year history of Congress.

And he invented the sky too!! Obama you are a LIAR!!!

Outrageous liar.

What did ABC just have to come up with this to make the Right-Wingers not get so made about reporting the McCain camp’s claim that McCain invented the blackberry? This “story” borders on the silly. When has there ever been a piece of legislation in Congress that was identical to something a single person authored? The entire congressional process is designed to make sure that bills are ultimately passed as a hodge-podge. Really JT! This one is just silly.

Obama inflating his remsume again? Geez. I guess if you have no record of ever doing anything, you have to make stuff up.

Not satisfied with destroying the American economy and ruining people’s lives, Repubs are now attempting to prevent the people whose homes have been foreclosured from VOTING.
Can you believe these people?
HOW UN-AMERICAN.

Obama will not tax, tax-exempt retirement accounts like 401(k)s and individual retirement accounts (IRAs) are not subject to capital gains taxes.

Jayhawk, creature of fiction, please tell me, as I asked JT to do, a single piece of legislation that made it through both houses of Congress as the original unadulterated, unamended bill as it was initially proposed and sponsored? Basically, according to the litmus test this story set up, no senator or congressman can ever claim to have authored a piece of legislation. Now I know its been a bad day for the McCain camp, but jumping on this is just desperate.

He just makes it up has he goes. never made a real decision in his life.

Do you actually fact check? He did vote for it – procedural vote before Republican shut the vote down.
Stop spewing repub talking points.

Didn’t show up to vote….. that sounds like a reoccurring pattern. McCain is known to get things done.

Once again the media twisting and bending the truth. Listen to what Obama says and read what he says. McCain will twist anything around. Like the bill that Obama supported to keep children safe from pediphiles. He never says it was all his idea. But he had certain proposals on the table. McCain is the fraud and liar. He knows what’s true and what he stretches into his truth. What a creep.

Yep, ABC and Jake Tapper are in the tank for Obama…
I’d like it noted that, for all the McCain/Palin lovers out there, they take hard looks at Obama, too. I don’t always agree with it, but they are equal opportunity. Just keep that in mind the next time you get to feeling the need to vent about the “Obama bias” here, please!

“Didn’t show up to vote….. that sounds like a reoccurring pattern. McCain is known to get things done.”
Then why did he miss 64% of the votes this session (compared to 45% for Obama)?

I’m pretty sure Jake Tapper is embedded with Obama (like, travels with him). Of course you should expect his stories to be around Obama – positive or negative.
I mean, no one can even talk to McCain or Palin on their planes anymore. There is a complete press shutdown. What exactly do you expect?

“And the media has forgotten about William Jefferson. Obama and his party are lucky to have a dishonest media protecting them.”
I see your William Jefferson and I raise you a Delay.
A Cunningham
A Doolittle
A Ney
A Frist
A Young.
Shall I go on as the list is quite lengthy?

From agent of “change” to agent of “lie”.
HOW SAD, OBAMA HAS BECOME!

Broadcast television could create a week long mini-series on all of the things Obama has taken credit for which he had absolutely nothing to do with.
There is something seriously wrong with someone who consistently boasts of doing things and being involved in things which he has absolutely no involvement with.
This should really set alarm bells off in any rational person’s head.
Obama is really a parody of John Lovitz’ pathological liar character from Saturday Night Live.
Isn’t it about time that the media finally does an investigative expose on the dozens and dozens of things Obama has claimed credit for, which he really had little or no involvement with?
Hello! Delusions of grandeur much? Is this what we want in a President?

The Obama campaign argues that in January 2008, Obama “was the only candidate to propose a fiscal stimulus plan centered on tax rebate checks for the broad majority of Americans. The bipartisan bill that passed less than a month later was centered on rebate checks to the broad middle class along the lines of what Obama proposed.”
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Give credit to Obama for the rebate
checks taxpayers received.

“Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee, a bill…”
An older Obama blooper

“..an increase in taxes kills job creation.”
We did fine during the Clinton years in terms of job creation with higher taxes.
We have not done so well at job creation during the Bush years with tax cuts.

How about MCCAin inventing the Blackberry? I guy how was at the bottom of his class even at the Naval academy

Shut up Brat!

FYI all politicians lie. All politicians inflate their resumes and will do and say whatever it takes to win the election. What we must understand is leaders don’t have all the ideas or all the answers. What leaders provide is a vision. The people on his/her team bring the vision into being. Which one of these candidates has a vision for America. Which one can take us into the future. It’s only one and that’s Obama.

Obama does not care about the economy.
Obama does not care about the American people.
Just more fluff and lies from the Wizard of Uh’s.
FRAUD. LIAR.

Again, Economics 101….you don’t raise taxes in an economic slowdown.
As they say, if you like Michigan’s economy, you’ll love Obama’s.
How about a separate country for Dems were they can tax themselves to death? We’ll see who lasts longer.
BTW…Clinton’s policies moved to the middle once elected….and he left his share of issues behind……

It kind of sounds like he has a point, thy did use his idea, but just shut him out of getting any credit for it. No wonder he didn’t vote. However, I have to disagree with him and everyone else who took part in this particular idea, the economic stimulus checks were pointless and a waste. They did nothing to solve our economic problems, and were just a pandering giveaway to placate voters.

Barak Obama (D-REZKO)
Joe Biden (D-MBNA)
Anybody But Obama…

Tax rebates were Obama’s idea.
Members of Congress created
a bipartisan bill using BO’s
proposal made a month earlier.
McCain as usual is a POTUS
candidate devoid of productive
ideas.

anon
Tax rebates were first proposed by Bush!

Why does the media continually cut Obama so much slack? This is the same as when Obama one day says Iran is tiny and oculd not be a threat and 48 hours later claims he’d been saying that Iran was a threat for a long time.

Luckily, McCain has the economic phenom Sarah Palin on the ticket…oh shoot!

As Obama distorts, so does Dee Dee Lynn…
Even the Democrats so say…
Once again, an Obama gaffe/inflation has to be explained by Obamabots, this time with reference to Congressional procedure…
It’s quite simple…
Even though Obama and McCain all offered legislation to provide stimulus to the economy, congressional leaders looped them and their legislation out of negotiations…
But, only Obama laid claims to the legislation as his basic creation…
And, then, Obama didn’t even bother to show up and vote…
It’s an Obamination…
Anybody But Obama…

I’ve yet to see anyone state anything McCain has done productive. This isn’t about voting for the best person, it’s about voting based on hate and fear….pathetic. You voted on personality the last two times. Someone you could have a beer with. Someone you could relate to and do you see where that has gotten us? Not again…please. Our country can’t afford four more years of a President who rules by gut instinct. Someone who thinks he can read someone’s soul by looking in their eyes. We need someone who actually thinks and analyzes. Someone who respects the brightest and smartest for their ideas and thoughts. I don’t want a man who does not respect the ideas of others, who thinks he knows it all already or the hocky mom running the country.

Next week: the cure for cancer.

wow, Obama has really taken a turn for the worse.
Guess the “new politics” is officially DEAD

McCain’s campaign has jumped the barracuda with its serial cynical dishonesty.
“though the bill that eventually passed MORE CLOSELY RESEMBLED OBAMA’S than either Clinton’s or McCain’s, those involved … say it was more a matter of agreeing on a good idea”
At best a minor inflation that could easily be mistaken for, and perhaps IS, the truth.
GO FISH.

I Love Obama. I Love Obama. There, maybe the censors at ABC will like this post and not delete it.

Proof McCain truly is a Teddy Roosevelt sort of candidate . . .
“I return to kind of the Teddy Roosevelt outlook toward things,” McCain said.
McCain has long identified Roosevelt, president from 1901 to 1909, as a political idol.
But Palin says McCain- Palin will keep the “death tax” eliminated.
“How did we get the death tax?”
The estate tax was originally instituted by Teddy Roosevelt who saw it as a bulwark against American aristocracy.
Oops, I lied and so did he when he said it or were his handlers too stupid to know what words they were putting in his mouth?

Obama has risen to the top with his lies, hiding the truth, associating with sleazy people. People did not know the truth about him when the first national primaries were held.
Now we as American’s know the truth and it will come out in the Nov. vote.
Obama is imploding.

Where was McCain? Oh that’s right, he was busy inventing the Blackberry or was it e-mail, I forget?

Monday, May 19, 2008:
“Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union,” Obama said. “They don’t pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us, and yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying we’re going to wipe you off the planet”
May 19, 2008
“So, I’ve made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave.”
And no one in the press notices.

Why would anyone want this guy as president? I just don’t get it
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Let’s see he’s MUCH MUCH SMARTER THAN McCAIN, HE HAS BETTER IDEAS FOR IMPROVING THE COUNTRY, HE IS WORKING FOR THE MAJORITY AND NOT JUST THE RICHEST 10%, HIS VP CHOICE ACTUALLY HAS A CLUE AS TO WHAT THE JOB REQUIRES
AND BEST OF ALL – HE NOT ANOTHER BUSH

McCain keeps telling us about his POW experience. You McCain supporters should ask POW families what they think about McCain. Actually, you can just Google it, “McCain POW families” to find out. It’s not pretty.

James A. Johnson – former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor
Just cost you billions in taxes
Franklin Raines – former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor
Just cost you billions in taxes
These are Obama’s advisors. So what is it that Obama is going to reform?

O.K….so the stimulus package ended up with something akin to his one month earlier proposal, but claims to have arrived there via a different route: so he would have been completely right on to have said: “In January, I outlined a plan to help revive our faltering economy,” Obama said, “the basis of which was tax relief proposal that became the bipartisan stimulus package that passed the Congress.” I’m sure that the GOP considers this hair-splitting mistake equivalent to McCain’s whoppers used to falsely accuse Obama of putting his ambition above the country’s interest, or calling Palin a pig, or sex ed for babies. Me thinks Tapper has gotten himself in the game too, with the notion of “equivalence”: i.e., that if one campaign lies to high heaven and you expose it, you have to do a similar expose’ on the other candidate the next day just to show you’re fair. This is a common logical fallacy but it leads to a very real error in thought: i.e., that they’re all lying equally—which just ain’t so.

What this shows is that
members of Congress look
to a leader – a prime
mover – like Obama for
a way out of a crisis.
They need impetus from
a thinking leader before
they go to work on
legislation developed
around his idea.

“This is the same as when Obama one day says Iran is tiny and oculd not be a threat and 48 hours later claims he’d been saying that Iran was a threat for a long time.”
drjohn fact cheked himself and found out he was lying!
ROFLMAO!

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PITBULLS AND REPUB VP’S … IS PITBULLS ARE VETTED?
Vetted … at the veterinarian!
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WINNER OF QUOTE OF THE DAY!

Obama is such a liar and fake: guess next he will take credit for winning the war in Iraq!!!

McCain has had at least 133 lobbyists working for his campaign and 7 who still do.

One: Campaign manager Rick Davis is a major telecommunications lobbyist.
• Two: Senior foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann recently faced scrutiny over his foreign lobbying on behalf of the Republic of Georgia, which has been embroiled in a military conflict with Russia.
• Three: Senior adviser Charlie Black was a foreign lobbyist for dictators in Zaire and Angola in the 1980s, fodder for the liberal group MoveOn.org.

Dr. John…just for you.
The final two lobbyists are McCain’s congressional liaison, John Green, and national finance Co-chairman Wayne Berman. They both lobbied for Fannie Mae, the troubled mortgage giant.

Concerned in IL…duh, Michelle is not running for President. Why are you concerned with Obama’s Columbia transcripts? Shouldn’t you be more concerned with why McCain won’t release his military records? He only released 19 pages of 600 something pages.

Yet another Obama fairy tale, but here’s some reality: Obama’s campaign cost you billions in taxes just last week:
James A. Johnson – former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor;
Franklin Raines – former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor.
If the incompetent Pelosi-Reid Congress had cleaned up Fannie and Freddie ANY TIME this year, as McCain has urged for years, instead of filling their pockets with lobby money, all Americans would be better off today. What news group is going to examine this?

Ok, i’m tired of all these lies and nonsense. I’m tired of being attacked for stating facts, with nothing more than fiction, feelings and lies. Visit the two sites below if you dare, then get back to me. It’s clear McCain is a liar. Don’t call it bias, I crosschecked alot of these facts, and haven’t found one single inaccuracy.
obamafactcheck
mccainfactcheck

Carol…Yet another Obama fairy tale, but here’s some reality: Obama’s campaign cost you billions in taxes just last week:
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Please explain to us how Obama’s campaign has cost us billions in taxes period, much less last week. BTW, your McCain talking point regard Fannie Mae has already been dubunked.

xaix…Let’s hear about how Obama fought to keep our troops in Iraq. That’s the real story that you seem to want to avoid.
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Please cite your source.

I have been disgusted with the media lately. ABC News has been beyond despicable. Anyone with a brain can clearly see the “qualified” ticket. There’s only “one” person that has fought for our freedom, served us in our government for decades and has experience. Everyone is focusing on Palin because there’s not much to criticize about an injured war hero that has served his country in countless ways. Has Obama ever “fought” and “sacrificed” his life for the country that he first visited at age 11 (his Disneyland trip)?

I don’t see the discrepancy, Jake. I know you are trying to do a balanced job. Bottom-line, Obama came up with a plan which was very similar to what congress approved. who cares whether they chose it because they agreed with it or because they thought it was Obama’s?

Oh Carol,
You are proving your ignorance with every sentence. Your too funny.
See, unlike you, we Dems don’t necessarily assume because it’s in print it has to be true. Try using fact check.
Oh, and McCain has over 100+ lobbyists on his campaign staff. WHO’S BEEN TIGHT WITH THE LOBBYISTS AGAIN?

Mike, please show us how McCain has cut wasteful spending. Mind you, not all earmarks are bad. Earmarks hidden into bills being passed are bad. All of Obama’s earmarks whether passed or not are transparent. You can find them easily just by Googling. He helped to pass a law to make earmarks transparent. Ask McCain about making lobbying transparent.

po-tay-toes po-tah-toes. Let’s nitpick to death – Obama remains overwhelmingly the better candidate.

I’m an independent as well, and it’s clear nothing will change if McCain gets in. So i guess voters like me are also McCain’s worst nightmare. I think the GOP had their chance, it’s the dems turn to try.

If the incompetent Pelosi-Reid Congress had cleaned up Fannie and Freddie ANY TIME this year, as McCain has urged for years, instead of filling their pockets with lobby money, all Americans would be better off today. What news group is going to examine this?
Posted by: Carol | Sep 16, 2008 ***************************************** The Senate is 49 Republicons….49 Democrats and 2 independents.
The Republicons have broken a record in the past 2 years for blocking legislature more than any other time in history.
Now, I would love to hear your explanation for why in 26 years in the Senate, McCain has been unable to clean up Fannie and Freddie if what you say has any truth to it. Because you are making it sound like you think that McCain is extremely incompetent and ineffective.

Obama is being exposed lie by lie!

McSame will be as good for the economy as Colonel Sanders is for helping chickens live longer.

I vote!
I support McCain and Palin.
So no to the liar HOPEY!

New Zogby polls:
McCain leads Obama in Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, New Hampshire and New Jersey.
Send the community organizer back to South Side Chicago!
Posted by: America Wakes Up | Sep 16, 2008 9:55:39 PM
You need to go look again.

Still waiting for a McCain supporter to tell me why they are voting McCain/Palin.

Obama has been claiming credit for “passing bills” to do this and that in all of his ads. He was not the sponsor for many of them, and he alone cannot pass a bill – it requires a vote of the appropriate legislative body to pass the bills. He is an idiot to claim that he passed them himself.

MyFellowAmericans …..please tell me why you would vote for McCain.

I’ve been wondering the same. The GOP used to be a good party, but now they are just spiteful old tired fools trying to tell our future with tarot cards while lying for to remain in power.

Liz, I’m supporting McCain because it would truly inconvenience me if everyone had health insurance, we would all have to wait longer to see a doctor, I would rather the people w/out insurance just go away! I also have a thing for dirty air, I really think it’s more important that Corporate America be able to pollute the air as much as they want & if your babies get asthma because of it you should just shut up & not whine. I also think it is soooo much more important for the wealthy to get tax breaks, if I’m lucky that will trickle down on me, I guess that is known as bottom feeding, but I just don’t care. Ronald Reagan continually said the measure is are you better off than you were 4years ago, well, 90% of us are worse off due to the Repuke policies, but hey, we have God on our side! When God got to be such a cruel b*stard I don’t know, but I know that if I vote Repuke God’s on my side!!!!

So Will your basic complaint is that the Obama campaign used Firoina’s words against the McCain campaign but did so out of context.
If you had said something during the dozens times McCain ads did that, I would have more sympathy for your plight.

- John McCain claims that he will provide health coverage to the uninsured but studies show that John McCain`s health care plan WILL HAVE NO IMMEDIATE EFFECT on the number of people who currenlty have no health insurance!
Also the study showed that John McCain`s health care plan would actually result in MORE PEOPLE WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, (20 million more people will probably lose their health insurance because of John McCain`s plan), BECAUSE John McCain`s health care plans would lead to employers DROPPING health benefits that they currently provide. Employers WILL NO LONGER offer their workers coverage beacsue of John McCain`s plan
*SO IF YOU HAVE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE RIGHT NOW FROM YOUR EMPLOYER — John McCain`s health care plan will cause your employer to drop you!! You will have NO health care coverage at all!!!
*If You DO NOT HAVE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE, John McCain`s plan will do NOTHING to help you!! You will still have NO health care coverage if John McCain is elected!!

KRISTINA — YOU BETTER EDUCATE YOURSELF
- *IF YOU HAVE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE RIGHT NOW FROM YOUR EMPLOYER — John McCain`s health care plan will cause your employer to DROP YOU!! You will have NO health care coverage at all through your employer!!!
*If You DO NOT HAVE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE, John McCain`s plan will do NOTHING to help you!! You will still have NO health care coverage if John McCain is elected!!
- John McCain claims that he will provide health coverage to the uninsured but studies show that John McCain`s health care plan WILL HAVE NO IMMEDIATE EFFECT on the number of people who currenlty have no health insurance!
Also the study showed that John McCain`s health care plan would actually result in MORE PEOPLE WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, (20 million more people will probably lose their health insurance because of John McCain`s plan), BECAUSE John McCain`s health care plans would lead to employers DROPPING health benefits that they currently provide. Employers WILL NO LONGER offer their workers coverage beacsue of John McCain`s plan
*SO IF YOU HAVE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE RIGHT NOW FROM YOUR EMPLOYER — John McCain`s health care plan will cause your employer to drop you!! You will have NO health care coverage at all!!!
*If You DO NOT HAVE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE, John McCain`s plan will do NOTHING to help you!! You will still have NO health care coverage if John McCain is elected!!

will isn’rt is funny that this is their attempt to get a really negative story that is actually news on Obama
because it’s hard to call this even news while the other two are clearly cracking because they have no idea about the economy or foreign policy (well, Mccain is just wrong on foreign policy
which brings up the news from Iraq and why we see now we will not know if the surge was a success for decades…as we are seeing the surge is now backfiring from all that money and guns and false promises we made to the sons of iraq and the iraqi awakening militants …that are now being arrested that we promised guns and money and positions to…
now where was it that we gave money and guns and power to muslim insurgents before to get a political quieting of a conflict… … oh that is right Afghanistan in the 80′s…
reagan’s freedom fighters…
and what happened to those guys anyway?
oh that’s right they changed their names
to
the taliban, al qaeda and Osama bin Laden…
and flew two massive planes into our twin towers…
John Mccain was right on the surge if we stuck with his original plan… which called for us to stay there for a hundred years.
how’s that war bill looking with that.
you want to know why we can not call the surge a success for decades…well these are the signs of why we may have wasted billions and lives on that surge…
if it goes down…it could go down BAD.

“As McCain says, we need this oil while new technologies come on line.”
That’s T Boone Pickens, not McCain.
McCain voted against funding for renewable fuels though now he thinks its a good idea.

“1. Let’s start with Obama’s “economic justice”-a plan where rich people pay more in taxes to support poor people.
(keeping in mind that 38% of americans pay NO TAXES at all). That, Liz, is the very definition of socialism, i.e., taking from the rich, to give to the poor because it’s “fair” in liberal land.
That would be a reason to vote for McCain.”
McCain plans to end entitlement programs for the poor that are funded by taxes paid for by the rich?
News to me.
Would be news to McCain as well.

JOHN McCAIN LIED when he says that he NEVER got an earmark – BIG LIE!!
* McCain in 2006 co-sponsored legislation that asked for $10-million for an academic center at the University of Arizona)
* In 2003, John McCain won authorization to buy property to create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona)
* In 1992, McCain asked the Environmental Protection Agency to provide $5 million toward a wastewater project in Nogales, Ariz.
- JOHN McCAIN also LIED when he said that this at a town hall meeting: “I have a perfect voting record from organizations like the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the American Legion and all the other veterans service organizations.” — The FACT IS THIS:
* The Disabled American Veterans — gave McCain only a 20 percent grade in its 2007 voting scorecard.
* Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America says McCain only voted veterans’ way on 58 percent of the 155 Senate votes.
* Vietnam Veterans of America reports that McCain has voted against 15 of 31 priority bills it tracked between 2001 and 2008.
- JOHN McCAIN also LIES when he says that obama will raise taxes on small businesses– HE WILL NOT, Obama will cut taxes on small business, and John McCain knows this, he has been corrected by the media, BUT John McCain still keeps lying, and lying, and lying!!
- Sarah Palin DID NOT say no thank you to Bridge to Nowhere!“ — Sarah Palin actually campaigned for Governor telling Alaska that she WOULD build the bridge. Sarah also got the money from the federal government to build the bridge! And even when the bridge was not build, Sarah still KEPT ALL THE MONEY, all of the earmark she had received from the government!!! — Sarah is still lying about saying she was against the bridge — LYING about it every single day on the campaign trail.
- Sarah ALSO claims she did not receive any earmarks! — Sarah Palin is still lying about that too, She asked for and received $ 197 million dollars in earmarks THIS YEAR ALONE!!
- Sarah says that Alaska is responsible for providing 35% of the America’s oil supply — LIE!!! Alaska ONLY provides 3% (three%) of the US oil supply.
THE REAL LIARS, who have lied over, and over, and over, ARE JOHN MCCAIN, AND SARAH PALIN — A WOMAN WHO IS RIGHT NOW UNDER ETHICS INVESTIGATION, AND WHO WILL NOT EVEN PARTICIPATE IN THE ETHICS INVESTIGATION, INVOLVING HER GOING ON IN ALASKA!!

Liz,
I’d follow up by saying that Obama’s plan to raise government spending by $864 BILLION, paid for by new taxes that affect us all, would be a major reason to vote for McCain. You only need to look to California, with its massive entitlements (with a bigger GDP than many European countries!) to see how an Obama presidency would look like-massive new deficits, and corresponding incredibly high taxes.

Why did Palin lie and say her teleprompter wasn’t working.

Hippie_Chucker, how are things working out for us Americans so far? I see, you’re for more of the same. How does McCain have a different view of the same when everyone in his campaign is part of the the problem?

Ryan C…goodnight. *S*

According to Bush if we started drilling in Alaska now, it would be 10 years before we saw any improvement at the pumps. Really? So we could choose to opt for clean air & water, creating an alternative for oil, or we could just drift along doing our best to give more tax breaks to big oil so they can get richer! The technology is available, alternatives are available, all we have to do is invest. If we do, the wealth will spread, but wouldn’t it be better if we just let the oil companies milk us dry!

McCAIN plans to: Leave minimum wage at $7.25 an hour, which is where current law will take it to by 2009.
OBAMA plans to: Raise minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2011.
So who really cares about the middle class, it is NOT the guy with 7 HOUSES

Obama the FAKE No Change pres canidate.

“Of course I realize oil is on a global market. You missed my only two points-jobs, and tax revenue from oil sales.”
There’s not a good enough return on our selling away our natural resources only to not have a dependable domestic source for oil.
“In terms of the environment-the most liberal European countries, who have actual Green party legislators, drill for domestic oil offshore. We are the ONLY country in the WORLD that denies itself its own resources.”
They also have state oil companies that control that oil vs what we have which is no control beyond our Strategic reserve.
Now if you want to call for the creation of a national oil company that controls oil in this country…then we can talk about domestic supply of oil.

Liz in Texas – They are voting for McShame because he is white like them and that that, but this time around the old white racist vote will not be enough to put McShame in the White House because he also need the young white voters and they are supporting Obama in large numbers.

exDemocrat -Give me a break. Blacks have always supported any Dem running 90 percent, but now that the Dems running for the President is black it is racist for the black to also vote 90 percent. It doesn’t make any sence for a black Dem to support a Republican bottom line.

Obama isn’t there to vote. That says it all. Middle class and poor will get stiffed by more Obama Lies after he suckers ya to vote for him. And do you really believe the poor and middle class can afford to send him multin billions of bucks. Smell the coffee, that money ain’t comming from the hard strapped and jobless!

I don’t know who exactly authored the stimulus bill, but I do know that on the day that George Bush took office from Bill Clinton I was payinjg 1.46 for a gallon of gas

Sarah So McCain has lied or played with the facts before – so what -
it doesn’t take away the fact that Obama has also. So for every list you can come up with about McCain the other side can come up with one about Obama.
So why bother? They’re both politicians playing old politics. Nothing new or about change on either side.

Obama, all he talks about is spend people tax money to help the the poor and the middle class. Did he ever said where he would get the money except taxing the rich. What if the rich decide to sit on their money and not invest; How many people will lose their jobs. Imagine right now, under Obama tax plan if you make $605K, you actually take home less than the person who make $570K. What kind of tax plan is that.

young_voter – McShame and Palin have been lieing still they have been campaigning together so please stop lieing.

Ryan,
So following your logic, it’s just not worth drilling here at all…and we should just give up the millions of barrels a day we’re doing? Lay off thousands of people, throw away BILLIONS in existing tax revenue?
If it makes sense to continue, which obviously it does, it makes further sense to increase what we’re doing, right?
The fact that state run petro companies don’t have accidents in Europe applies to here in that we’d be using the same technology.
As far as drilling, it’s important to remember that the stone age didn’t end because of a lack of rocks-in much the same way as eventually a new fuel source will come online, but only when it’s cheaper than oil…and nationalizing an industry will guarantee that such innovation won’t take place, as it removes the only mechanism for change-the free market.
Getting upset at oil makes about as much sense as being angry with apples. Both are short lived commodities that will eventually be replaced…

I forgot to mention. Not only was I paying 1.46 for a gallon of gasoline, but the nation had a surplus. (which means no deficit!) And there was NO NEED for such a thing as a “stimulus pachkage”

gl – McShame is the best you can come up with?? There have been about one million posts using the same name. C’mon – I am sure you can do better than that. When using names like that it makes to post sound so intelligent.

MS1236, it took 8 years to catch up to us? LOL You’re funny :)

Tom,
Consider that there also weren’t billions of suddenly middle class Chinese and Indian families who could afford to buy their first car when Bush took office..
Try to think about what a billion people who suddenly need gasoline would do to the price at the pump. Since supply=demand, prices rise dramatically, right?
Out of every dollar, Evil Big Oil makes a whopping 7 cents. Government takes 14 cents in taxes.
Private companies only extract 5% of the worlds oil, and that would include the lefts biggest target, Exxon.
The rest is extracted by state run monopolies, and OPEC.
So who has a bigger say on how much a barrel is worth?

Everyone who is against the Iraq war….do you think we shouldn’t have helped Germany when they were in trouble during WWII? Should Hitler just have continued killing millions of Jews? I don’t care what anyone says about George Bush, this world is a BETTER PLACE without Saddam Hussein in it. And it was a task Clinton couldn’t seem to accomplish when he was in office. Same as Bin Laden. Who I believe Clinton was offered and he said thanks but no thanks….he isn’t a threat to us. This country was attacked on 9/11/01 by Bin Laden and his followers have vowed to destroy our country and kill our citizens. George Bush has kept this country SAFE FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS PEOPLE. They have foiled how many attacks plotted??? This country was founded on the basis that we would help the little people who could not help themselves and that is what Iraq is about along with protecting ourselves. We have not lost the Iraq war, WE have won. And I have heard more soldiers who have come home say they are doing GOOD THIGNS OVER THERE and they believe in this war. We as American citizens sitting in our homes right now should be supporting these men and women over there fighting, not talking about losing a war that we have fought hard for and are WINNING. It makes me sick to listen to everyone condemn this war and claim we are over there for no reason. NO ONE likes war…war is ugly and the media should stay the hell away from the war and let those men and women do their job and stop making it look like we are losing the war. We are NOT LOSING. We are on our way and we will prevail. McCain Palin 08

Tom – read hippe_chuckler and you might understand.

NoObama -
It’s voters like you I fear. By the comment you just made, it just shows everyone on this list your ignorance.

That shouldn’t surprise us that Obama lied about the stimulus package. He also forgot to tell us there is only one Senator who has received more campaign contributions from Freddie & Fannie than him either.
Obama didn’t tell us that McCain co-sponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005. It failed in the Senate. In his speech on the floor of the Senate McCain stated,”If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”
This is exactly what happened. Obama is a loser.

According to the “Non-partisan Center for Tax Policy“, Obama’s tax plan would offer greater tax relief, tax cuts for low and middle-income earners. Obama`s offers a LARGER tax cut than McCain would for low and middle-income earners.
PROOF as seen on CNN Money.com:
IF YOU EARN THE FOLLOWING AMOUNTS you will get the following tax CUTS from each candidate:
*EARN Under $19,000
McCain cut ($19) – OBAMA cut ($597)
*EARN $19,000 to $38,000
McCain cut ($113) – OBAMA cut ($892)
*EARN $38,000 to $66,000
McCain cut ($319) OBAMA cut ($1042)
*EARN $66,000 to $112,000
McCain cut ($1009) OBAMA cut ($1290)
*EARN $112,000 to $161,000
McCain cut ($2614) OBAMA cut ($2204)
*EARN $227,000 to $603,000
McCain cut ($7871) OBAMA cut (-$12)
*JOHN MCCAIN CAN TALK, AND TALK ALL HE WANTS ABOUT CARING ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS, BUT THE FACT IS JOHN McCAIN WILL GIVE THE POOREST AMERICANS “LESS“ TAX CUTS THAN HE WILL GIVE THE RICHEST AMERICANS — THAT IS NOT CARING ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS MR. JOHN MCCAIN!!!

Ryan C
you have all sortos of facts that are wrong ofcourse… go away!

Thierry
ther are many clinical psych terms that you can use to describe the obamabots but in this case they are using transferance! They have been absoultely shameful and deserve to lose the election because their candidate isnt goign to get them there no matter what fantacy they propogate!

After trying to peg McCain & Palin as liars, what does Obama do??? He goes out & tells a WHOPPER of a lie himself. His lie, on the other hand, was WELL documented. Let’s see now, whose lie is the worst?? Hillary’s exaggerating landing in Bosnia under heavy gunfire, Obama’s lie about creating the stimulus package we all enjoyed, or mccain’s lipstick on a pig??? I would say that it is the one that goes against a candidate’s constant drumming that he will be the champion of the middle class–it is the one which affects us all. I love it when the “pot calls the kettle black” and gets caught!

Sharon,
First you need to understand that the Bush tax cuts will be repealed…which is an automatic tax increase for the middle class. My family will pay an addl. $6000 when the cuts are rolled back.
So it’s not fair to represent Obama’s numbers vs. McCain’s in that light, as McCain will extend the cuts, which aren’t at all reflected in your post.

AGAIN McCain has to lie about what Obama said in order to criticize him.
BTW, what is the difference between Obamas idea forming the basis of the bipartisan stimulus package and congressional leaders agreeing with Obamas idea and making it the basis of the bipartisan stimulus package?
Seems to me that you are proving Obama correct, Jake.

AA & Sharon
Must be Obama supporters with cut & paste.
Find a real source, CNN is barely above The Enquirer. Need link to be reliable. People should be able to see source, if you have one other than CNN. You would never post misinformation, would you?

Hippie, if you take a 6K hit from the repeal of GWB’s tax cut, yer makin alot of money!! My sympathys

tlatexas
the obamabots just post from links they get intheir obamaland website stuff… its not enough that they are waited on hand and foot in real life and have everythign given to them they have to borrow from biased news sites and break campaign finance laws by postign garbage like that on news sites

These are FACTS…
· McCain Cheated on his former wife.
· McCain didn’t know how many houses he owned.
· McCain signed a confession that he killed women and children under torture.
· In 2002, McCain stated to put ambition BEFORE country.
· McCain thinks Czechoslovakia still exists stated many times.
· McCain suggested his wife enter a topless contest at a biker rally.
· McCain stated he didn’t love the USA before military service.
· Palin refuses to work with investigators after she said she would.
· McCain defines rich as making 5 million plus.
· McCain was ‘stumped’ when asked if condoms prevented AIDS…he didn’t know if condoms helped or not. Every idiot knows they do.
· Palin supported the ‘Bridge to nowhere’, and didn’t tell congress no thanks.
· Cindy McCain wore a 300,000 dollar dress at the RNC.
· McCain has missed more voting attendance than anyone, missing 64% of the votes.
· Palin’s husband is a member of Alaska’s Independent party, Palin supports it.
· McCain would be the oldest president, ever.
· McCain did NOT invent the Blackberry as his aids suggested.
· Palin did NOT visit the Iraqi Battlezone as she stated by aids.
· In 2007, McCain said Romney didn’t have enough experience to be President as govenor…Palin does?
· Palin thinks everything is God’s will, yet god gave us all free will.
· Palin said Fannie and Freddie got too expensive for taxpayers, but taxpayers don’t float the bill. (Airhead)
· McCain is NOT a natural born American, as the constitution requires, he was born in Panama.
· McCain changed his stance on stem cell research from 2000 and 2005, which at the time he supported Bush.
· Palin tried but failed to sell the jet on Ebay, she sold it to a private person and took a major loss.
· McCain stated there is a border between Iraq and Pakistan.
· McCain states he does not understand economics as much as he should.
· McCain does NOT have an illegitimate child as he stated.
Still think this team is best for America? This was acquired from McCainFactcheck It’s clear McCain and Palin are both LIARS.

Mike
in no way is Obama ever correct because nothing ever comes from him… he may write his own speechs but policy doesnt come from him it comes from advisers

Mike: NICE TRY. Read the FULL statement made, and you will probably READ the following: “[T]hose involved in the drafting of the legislation say it was MORE A MATTER OF AGREEING ON A GOOD IDEA and was not a matter of, as Obama claimed, his proposal having “formed the basis for a bipartisan stimulus package that passed the Congress.” You Obamabots REALLY need to learn how to read. I guess “No Child Left Behind” did leave you behind.

staniam, I agree first requirement of Obama blogger. Cut & paste.

John–if cheating on one’s spouse would disqualify someone from being president, MOST of the men who have been President would not have made it there. With the POSSIBLE exception of the two Bushes, Reagan & Carter, they all had their piece on the side.

Niko
absoultely… and these people are proud to be associated with Carter who”lusted in his heart” and were skeptical of the clintons so they were willingto torpedo their own campaign… absoultely mind boggling!

Major legislation authored by Sen. Obama:

Thierry
yea if things play out my theory will be proven correct Obama is using the George W bush reverse model to get elected… he is pretending to be for middle class when that would go against his own self interest… Bush touted middle class things and moved to the left in the general when he governed from the right but spent like a leftist Obama will be the opposite

You didn’t have all the information!!!
Obama voted the day before on the version he wanted- it was voted down so he declined to vote because it didn’t go far enough! McCain- voted on the watered down version.
J.Trapper keep your stories true!

It’s only fair….
Obama Fact Check….
· Obama is a Christian, not a Muslim like many GOP suggest.
· Obama did not refuse to put his hand on his heart during the pledge of allegiance, the pic was taking during the National Anthem.
· Obama DID have more executive experience than Lincon.
· Obama will NOT raise taxes for those who make less than 250,000.
· Obama will NOT be the youngest president ever, there were 4 younger than him.
· Obama does NOT belong to a black separatists church.
· Tony Rezko did NOT finance his house as McCain suggested.
· McCain does not have the worst vote attendance record, McCain does.
· Obama did NOT sponsor sex ed for kindergartners, it was clear to be age appropriate.
· Obama IS a natural born citizen, Hawaii is a state.
· Obama was a community organizer far more than Palin was in politics, McCain said otherwise.
I think it’s clear, McCain is still a liar, Obama has for the most part, told the truth.

DCMata–the fact of the matter is that Obama is trying to take credit for something he had NO role in. Furthermore, if he did not even VOTE, why would he even claim responsibility for it??? That is just STUPID & traits of an outright LIAR.

DCmata
thats not the point the point is … it is Obamas job and duty to wait around and be duly recorded not voting present on final passage of all bills no exceptions! Mccain has pushed major legislation through the senate and house and Obama has put his name on an amendment of an amendment that may or may not have made it to the final bill

I provided links to my information and facts, where are yours?

NIko
yea um that would be traits of someone with delusions of grandeur and messianic complex

George -
read those last three paragraphs buddy.

John
your links are that of a campaign arm… which it is not legit and it is in fact illegal to post on a news site if it is propaganda

Barack Obama has 22 speechwriters, and uses mainly three who were featured in a NYTimes article a few months ago. If he wrote his own speeches, he wouldn’t have to haul his telepromters all over the country, he could just use written cue cards like the rest of the candidates. He could just see a few key words on a cue card and go from there, but he has to use the teleprompters because they are not his words, his thoughts, and they were certainly written by others. Wake up!

Of Course he did, he is good at lying!

McCain showed up to vote? That’s amazing — I didn’t realize he had done that in years. As a side note, McCain keeps talking about how he supports renewable energy in his TV ads, but he’s voted “no” or not even shown up for the last 8 votes on the most important federal policy to support renewable energy. I guess all those oil industry contributions made him a little conflicted.

McCain has the lowest attendance record for showing up for votes in HISTORY….FACT!

How clear does it need to be? McCain said the economy is STRONG…a day later the stock market crashed. Idiots.

JOHN McCAIN LIED when he says that he NEVER got an earmark – BIG LIE!!
* McCain in 2006 co-sponsored legislation that asked for $10-million for an academic center at the University of Arizona)
* In 2003, John McCain won authorization to buy property to create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona)
* In 1992, McCain asked the Environmental Protection Agency to provide $5 million toward a wastewater project in Nogales, Ariz.
- JOHN McCAIN also LIED when he said that this at a town hall meeting: “I have a perfect voting record from organizations like the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the American Legion and all the other veterans service organizations.” — The FACT IS THIS:
* The Disabled American Veterans — gave McCain only a 20 percent grade in its 2007 voting scorecard.
* Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America says McCain only voted veterans’ way on 58 percent of the 155 Senate votes.
* Vietnam Veterans of America reports that McCain has voted against 15 of 31 priority bills it tracked between 2001 and 2008.
- JOHN McCAIN also LIES when he says that obama will raise taxes on small businesses– HE WILL NOT, Obama will cut taxes on small business, and John McCain knows this, he has been corrected over and over by the media, BUT John McCain still keeps lying, and lying, and lying!!
- SARAH Palin DID NOT say no thank you to Bridge to Nowhere!“ — Sarah Palin actually campaigned for Governor telling Alaska that she WOULD build the bridge. Sarah also got the money from the federal government to build the bridge! And even when the bridge was not build, Sarah still KEPT ALL THE MONEY, all of the earmark she had received from the government!!! — Sarah is still lying about saying she was against the bridge — LYING about it every single day on the campaign trail.
- Sarah ALSO claims she did not receive any earmarks! — Sarah Palin is still lying about that too, She asked for and received $ 197 million dollars in earmarks THIS YEAR ALONE!!
- Sarah says that Alaska is responsible for providing 35% of the America’s oil supply — LIE!!! Alaska ONLY provides 3% (three%) of the US oil supply.
THE REAL LIARS, who have lied over, and over, and over, ARE JOHN MCCAIN, AND SARAH PALIN — Sarah palin IS RIGHT NOW UNDER ETHICS INVESTIGATION in ALASKA, and John McCain (the phony reformer) is helping Sarah avoid answering questions in the case. Why would two people who have nothing to hide refuse to PARTICIPATE IN THE ETHICS INVESTIGATION in Alaska, because they know that they are LYING FRAUDS!!! John McCain and Sarah Palin are proving that they will be Bush, and Cheney PART 2

No, i didn’t ask for a #2 being Mcbots with fries, a drink and aside of McPalin…I asked for truth, which is #1, obama/bidon with a side of hope. Hell, Mccain can’t even work a computer like, he sure as hell can’t work a drive thru.

Grammy Barb, face it, your losing and your wrong. Do whats best for America, and NOT what is best for your ego. Don’t just tell me i’m wrong, PROVE me wrong. Facts do not lie.

McCAIN plans to: Leave minimum wage at $7.25 an hour, which is where current law will take it to by 2009.
OBAMA plans to: RAISE minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2011.
* So who really cares about the middle class, it is NOT John McCain who has 7 HOUSES.
* It is NOT John McCain who has voted 19 times AGAINST a minimum-wage increase. (This is the pathetic actions from a guy who has received his paycheck from taxpayers for the 26 years he has been in Washington)
John McCain is a disgusting person, and he does not care about the poor, or the middle class who are struggling to try to get by everyday!!

I don’t know, Jake. It looks like to me Obama’s idea was eventually used in a watered-down version. Perhaps it did form a basis. How can one say it didn’t?

Oh, yeah, of the 364 lawmakers who received money from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae between 1989 and 2008, Senator Chris Dodd received the most. But next in line was Barack Obama, and he was in the Senate for only three of those years!! John McCain in 9 years received a total of one sixth of what Obama received in three years. How can Obama be out on the campaign trail railing against a corrupt culture in Washington with figures like this staring him in the face? Obama is part of the problem, not the solution.

J
as thomas Jefferson said…” the tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of partiots and tyrants” I dont agree with much of Mccains policies but its his time not Obamas! He shouldve been the president in 2000

It doesn’t matter if McCain only got $1 from these people, point is, he gave others hell for it when he did the same…thats called a hypocrite.

Pinning McCain to Bush is laughable…
McCain is clearly no Bush….
Infact I don’t think no one in this world (except may be that 19% who approve his job) would want another Bush……..
But the thing that surprises me is that with such an unpopular sitting republican president…the democratic party candidate should be leading by atleast 25-40 points in the national polls….Why isn’t that happening?????????? Why is the ruling republican candidate leading in national polls???????????????
Did the democrats seriously wasted a golden chance to change the power by giving this empty suite the nomination??????????
OR Is it that the Mccain is really a reformer who could gain the confidence of people by overcomming his own party’s failures????????????
……..something to think about!!!!!!!!!!

I used to support Obama/Biden…but I have come to believe that Obama and Biden have gotten to be shrill and they whine about everything. They have no record to run on, and are sounding more desperate by the second. I’m switching my vote to McCain/Palin. My wife and daughter convinced me, so we could have the first female VP. Three votes for McCain/Palin!!!

OMG, you think i’m being PAID? Now thats desperate. I have to support a family of 4, which is hard since my hours have been cut. One of my kids is a step daughter, whose real father died in Iraq, I have to explain to her what happened. The stock market is crashing, McCain says the market is fine. The past 8 years has been the worst years of my life…it’s nice to know your doing just fine. God your so out of touch with reality.

Thank you for the link spuma. I will take a look and do the research.

While I feel it’s about time one of these posts actually concerns something off-color regarding Obama, I am still waiting for someone in the MSM to report on Obama’s treasonous activities while visiting Iraq in July when he attempted to have the withdrawal of U.S. troops halted until after the election…………………..
Can we have some action on this report please?

sam waxman
There is a god if thats true… that was the logical choice.. did Obama ever think that he had as much baggage as the clintons and they are by far more popular by true democrats and everyone else… if this is true he woudlnt have wasted time like this

Lee, like i told everyone else…PROVE IT.

“He didn’t vote in the final one cuz it had too many republican earmarks for the rich.”
No, Obama didn’t vote for it because he was busy raising money and campaigning for the presidency – the same thing he has been doing since he entered the Senate in January 2005.
BTW, tonight he is hobnobbing with the rich and powerful elite liberals, the jetset who could care less about America but wants Americans to see their crummy movies.
More elitism from Barack Obama.

I don’t need to be paid by a political party, especially as an Independent, to care about what happens to America. I think this election will either make us or break us. A vote for McCain will kill America. Put your racism/party behind you and vote for what YOU feel is right, not what your daddy told you.

Obama is hiding? Why won’t Palin be interviewed by the press(gibson was a compromise, she knew the questions), why has she refused to be interviewed by the LAW, after she said she would cooperate. God, wake up!

Obama asked him to leave the ticket? Link? Once again, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF???? Oh ya, you don’t have any.

“Why won’t Palin be interviewed by the press(gibson was a compromise, she knew the questions)”
Proof, please, that Plain “knew the questions.”
Besides, your jealousy that she is getting all of the attention that Obama once had is making you and your party sound desperate. Stop whining, for God’s sake.

Obama and the democrats left the Illinois budget in shambles. Now, this economic failure lies about his success on a stimulus bill. More talk, more lies, more of Obama.

I’m whining? Common sense, you know, that thing we are all supposed to be born with. But lets assume she didn’t, she had no CLUE what the Bush Doctrine was…as a VP candidate, she should. I can’t wait for the debates.

you still haven’t given me a link to where it states Biden is leaving the ticket.

Hey, John,
How about you PROVE to me that Obama DIDN’T attempt to negotiate with the Iraqis to have the U.S. troop withdrawals delayed.
The story was reported in yesterday’s NY Post, based upon an interview with the Iraqi foreign minister. According to a follow up, there were other people in the room at the time, so it couldn’t be totally denied as Obama would have liked to do.
The press release from Obama’s campaign was a carefully crafted statement that actually ended up admitting the truthfulness of the article.
So, like I said, how about YOU prove to everybody that it’s not true…………

John- I am voting for what I know is right for American not what my daddy told or taught me to. If I voted like he did I would be voting only Dem. on everything. Thanks but no Thanks. Although I respect Obama for where he has gotten in his live and he seems like a fairly nice guy and fairly smart but being a nice guy and fairly smart does not change his positions that are totally against my morals and ethics. Not that I am saying he has none I am sure he does but his are not mine and I can’t go along with his. McCain/Palin are more in line with mine.

john
there are plenty of people includeing me who plan to work for their local Democratic candidates and vote for Mccain so you have a biiiiig problem!

Will you people PLEASE drop it with the “she didn’t know what the Bush Doctrine was.” David Gergen, a man who has advised several Presidents, stated that it was an unfair question. Not too many people, politiciand or members of the press, actually refer to that doctrine without including a reference to the “pre-emptive strike” prong of the doctrine. If Gibson would have phrased the question properly, MAYBE she would have known what he was talking about. I received a degree in political science and I am a bit of a political junkie, ut I did not even know what the Bush Doctrine. Also, as was finally admitted to by James carville, the doctrine has different means to different people–there are many rpongs to it, the doctrine of pre-emption being the most prominent.

“So why are some of the people from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, who oversaw their collapse, working for Obama?”
Link? I have not gotten one bit of proof from any of McCain’s supporters.

John
Quit using Obama Fact Check to prove your points. Either post links to the original articles/sites or shut up.

oh forgive me, i forget how much FACTS scare you.

not true

JOHN McCAIN LIED when he says that he NEVER got an earmark – BIG LIE!!
* McCain in 2006 co-sponsored legislation that asked for $10-million for an academic center at the University of Arizona)
* In 2003, John McCain won authorization to buy property to create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona)
* In 1992, McCain asked the Environmental Protection Agency to provide $5 million toward a wastewater project in Nogales, Ariz.
- JOHN McCAIN also LIED when he said that this at a town hall meeting: “I have a perfect voting record from organizations like the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the American Legion and all the other veterans service organizations.” — The FACT IS THIS:
* The Disabled American Veterans — gave McCain only a 20 percent grade in its 2007 voting scorecard.
* Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America says McCain only voted veterans’ way on 58 percent of the 155 Senate votes.
* Vietnam Veterans of America reports that McCain has voted against 15 of 31 priority bills it tracked between 2001 and 2008.
- JOHN McCAIN also LIES when he says that obama will raise taxes on small businesses– HE WILL NOT, Obama will cut taxes on small business, and John McCain knows this, he has been corrected by the media, BUT John McCain still keeps lying, and lying, and lying!!
- Sarah Palin DID NOT say no thank you to Bridge to Nowhere!“ — Sarah Palin actually campaigned for Governor telling Alaska that she WOULD build the bridge. Sarah also got the money from the federal government to build the bridge! And even when the bridge was not build, Sarah still KEPT ALL THE MONEY, all of the earmark she had received from the government!!! — Sarah is still lying about saying she was against the bridge — LYING about it every single day on the campaign trail.
- Sarah ALSO claims she did not receive any earmarks! — Sarah Palin is still lying about that too, She asked for and received $ 197 million dollars in earmarks THIS YEAR ALONE!!
- Sarah says that Alaska is responsible for providing 35% of the America’s oil supply — LIE!!! Alaska ONLY provides 3% (three%) of the US oil supply.
THE REAL LIARS, who have lied over, and over, and over, ARE JOHN MCCAIN, AND SARAH PALIN — A WOMAN WHO IS RIGHT NOW UNDER ETHICS INVESTIGATION, AND WHO WILL NOT EVEN PARTICIPATE IN THE ETHICS INVESTIGATION, INVOLVING HER GOING ON IN ALASKA!!

Senator Obama didn’t even show up to vote! Maybe he was in Trinity church “NOT” listening to Rev. Wright!!!

Blame others?
McCain: boo hoo, the media wont give me no attention.
McCain: Boo hoo, Obama is not playing nice.
McCain: Boo hoo, Palin was a good pick, your all wrong.
I give up, this is a waste of time. Come Nov, the truth will be exposed…and i’ll be back to laugh in your faces.

You call me brain dead, after 25 posts and hateful replies….STILL no facts…not ONE.

Here is proof that Obama is flailing around:
He is leading by just 5 points in New York, and by just two points in Pennsylvania. He is losing by four points in Ohio, and is tied in Minnesota.
New York and Pennsylvania! Holy crap, Batman! Maybe Obama can concentrate more on winning Montana! LOL!

James Marsden
yea what a genius the party faithful was for hanging out in traditional red states they have no hope of winning and they may win only those states lol

James A. Johnson – former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor
Just cost you billions in taxes
Franklin Raines – former Fannie Mae CEO and Obama Advisor
Just cost you billions in taxes
These are Obama’s advisors. So what is it that Obama is going to reform?
Posted by: drjohn | Sep 16, 2008 9:14:14 PM
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Bush and the republican party’s philosophy of non regulation of business has cost americans billions.
The savings and loan fiasco under George Bush’s daddy cost americans billions. Enron, and Worldcom cost american billions. Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and AIG is costing americans billions. And the Iraq war the ultimate rat hole is costing America trillions with a T and you want voters to replace Bush with more republicans? You must be joking?
Posted by: McCain/Palin not ready to lead | Sep 16, 2008 9:35:04 PM
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This simply proves voting republican coost us money and jobs and is too extreme and expensive for america.

James Marsden
yea there is a reason everry Democratic candidate that did well on a GE won states like PA and OH and TX and CA etc in the primaries.. Obama won none of those!

McCAIN plans to: Leave minimum wage at $7.25 an hour, which is where current law will take it to by 2009.
OBAMA plans to: RAISE minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2011.
* So who really cares about the middle class, it is NOT John McCain who has 7 HOUSES.
* It is NOT John McCain who has voted 19 times AGAINST a minimum-wage increase. (This is the pathetic actions from a guy who has received his paycheck from taxpayers for the 26 years he has been in Washington)
John McCain is a disgusting person, and he does not care about the poor, or the middle class who are struggling to try to get by everyday!!

“yea there is a reason everry Democratic candidate that did well on a GE won states like PA and OH and TX and CA etc in the primaries.. Obama won none of those!”
How hilarious will it be if Obama spends all of this money to win a Colorado, or a New Mexico, and at the same time he loses a Pennsylvania, or a Michigan. He is losing in Ohio and Indiana, and every historian knows that the candidate who wins two of the three key states of Pennsylvania, Florida, and Ohio, has always won the election.
McCain is leading in two of these, and is within 2 points of the third.
How I will laugh at the Dems for spending hundreds of millions and get fewer electoral votes than they did four years earlier.

“OBAMA plans to: RAISE minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2011.”
And how does he plan to pay for that, may I ask?
Especially when he is jacking up payroll taxes and taxes on small businesses and those taxpayers who make over $250,000 a year, which includes small businessmen and businesswomen (who file as individuals and not businesses).
Once again, Democrats display their lack of knowledge about capitalism and how it feels to work hard and keep what you earn.

“People cling to guns and religion…”
This is why the middle class, especially white women, are leaving the Democrat Party in droves – because Obama looks down at them as worthless little people except when it comes to their votes that he needs.
Palin is so popular because people feel a kinship with her – that she is one of us. Obama is one of THEM – the rich Hollywood and limousine liberal jetset that everyone outside of LA detests.

Whether Obama exaggerated is a minor point in the scheme of things and certainly does not reflect adversely on Obama in any significant way. I wouldn’t care whether he exaggerated or not…this is typical of campaigns…they all exaggerate on occasion. What will determine my vote in the end is the idiocy of the past eight years…a president lying to get us into disastrous quagmire in Iraq, a president whose leadership has been the worst in history and McCain wanting to keep the lunacy up and at the same levels when we are having a meltdown in this country. We desperately need new leadership and Obama may not be perfect but he is certainly head and shoulders over the sleazy McCain.

According to the “Non-partisan Center for Tax Policy“, Obama’s tax plan would offer greater tax relief, tax cuts for low and middle-income earners. Obama`s offers a LARGER tax cut than McCain would for low and middle-income earners.
PROOF as seen on CNN Money.com:
IF YOU EARN THE FOLLOWING AMOUNTS you will get the following tax CUTS from each candidate:
*EARN Under $19,000
McCain cut ($19) – OBAMA cut ($597)
*EARN $19,000 to $38,000
McCain cut ($113) – OBAMA cut ($892)
*EARN $38,000 to $66,000
McCain cut ($319) OBAMA cut ($1042)
*EARN $66,000 to $112,000
McCain cut ($1009) OBAMA cut ($1290)
*EARN $112,000 to $161,000
McCain cut ($2614) OBAMA cut ($2204)
*EARN $227,000 to $603,000
McCain cut ($7871) OBAMA cut (-$12)
*JOHN MCCAIN CAN TALK, AND TALK ALL HE WANTS ABOUT CARING ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS, BUT THE FACT IS JOHN McCAIN WILL GIVE THE POOREST AMERICANS “LESS“ TAX CUTS THAN HE WILL GIVE THE RICHEST AMERICANS — THAT IS NOT CARING ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS MR. JOHN MCCAIN!!!

James Marsden writes: That is liberalspeak for “so what if my guy lied! Everybody lies! The other guy lied worse! Yeah…that’s the ticket!”
No, James Marsden, it is just good horse sense. The Republican leadership has run this country into the ditch and I am sick of it. Period.

Obama is such a phony!!! And I used to support him…. where’s the hope Barack ???

I was an Obama idea promted by request from his grass roots campaign back in January to push for a second stimulus check after Bush’s first. It was as early as last fall that another one was needed. The Wall Street problems is due to people changing the rules and facts to pump the economy. The same thing is happening with the Republicans pushing lies vs. the truth to pump up their bid for President. The ‘Keating Five’ Twenty Year itch is back.

Jake Tapper is one of the ONLY people left in the media with a shred of integrity.
You call both Obama and McCain out when they’re wrong.
The rest of the media are shills of the Obama campaign and only call out McCain.
I GUARANTEE YOU, the rest of the media will just ignore this. They are so obsessed with helping Obama win the election they’ve sold their souls to George Soros, MoveOn.org and the Daily.Kos

So McCain’s a liar but now Obama’s a liar and a hypocrite for calling McCain a liar. Obama’s stupid too – how many politicians have ever gotten through campaigns without relying on quotes taken out of context, plays on words, distortions and elaboration? It was just a matter of time before he stepped into it.

Oh, and thank God for Obama’s stimulus package. I was able to buy a 35 inch flat panel TV with 1080 DPI at Walmart. Unfortunately, now I can’t afford cable TV because I spent my $600.00 on the TV! Oh well. Obama will change everything, giving me my free healthcare, free cable, free bus pass and more free government hand-outs than I am already getting. Life will be much, much better for the likes of people like me!

Among others, BO is about to take Indiana for the first time, good job GOP.

Why is Palin avoiding the media and the LAW? Provide facts and links, nothing else is acceptable.

Compared to what i’m paying for gas and food, a tax increase would make very little difference.

What do you expect him to do, if you ask me it’s a smart move. Obama can’t just go to the closest lobbyist and ask for money…he has to EARN it. True old time GOP would be rolling over in their grave at that comment.

Name ONE THING the GOP has done to help the economy!

Have you checked the polls? It seems Indiana is turning Blue, good for them!

“”was the only candidate to propose a fiscal stimulus plan centered on tax rebate checks for the broad majority of Americans. The bipartisan bill that passed less than a month later was centered on rebate checks to the broad middle class along the lines of what Obama proposed.”
That is true.”
But though the bill that eventually passed more closely resembled Obama’s than either Clinton’s or McCain’s, those involved in the drafting of the legislation say it was more a matter of agreeing on a good idea and was not a matter of, as Obama claimed, his proposal having “formed the basis for a bipartisan stimulus package that passed the Congress.”
Doesn’t sound like he’s inflating anything. So the bill looks like Obama’s proposals and that’s just a coincidence? What’s he supposed to think? He proposed something and other people proposed something else and the end result looked like his proposal but it’s somehow dishonest to say he shaped the bill? Please.

So, “Change we can believe in” has now become “Change we need”. Soon to become “Change is ok if it happens” followed by “Change is overated anyway”.

Clinton would have fixed this. NObama!
McCharacter and Palin look real interesting right now.

I too and still voting for Obama because everyone is cheering for McCain and Palin for the wrong reasons and not for the right one’s…We all know that regardless of who gets in office will have to raise taxes..People have to take responsibility for their action’s and stop blaming the Government…If McCain gets in there will be without a doubt another 4 more yrs of Bush…and women will not have the right to choose what to do with their bodies…and there’s not way I’m going for that…Among other issues that’s important to me.GO OBAMA…

It looks like part of my comment was cut off – I was referring to the person(s) who said that McCain is getting a “free pass” from the media – that he isn’t under the scrutiny that Obama is.

Okay, John, I am going to help you here. You have a lot of questions, so I am going to do my best to answer them for you.
First off, BO is not about to take Indiana. Check your facts. According to latest polling, McCain is up by an average of 4.7 in that state. You can find the info on Real Clear Politics.
I’m a McCain supporter and you asked if I have ever been broke. I have nothing to prove it to you, but I can tell you that I spent about a year living in a basement only able to eat rice, and canned green beans and corn while I worked and saved as much money as I could in order to become a productive citizen. I took jobs that I hated just to pay bills, which I barely did. I lived in a scary neighborhood and had a car that worked less than half of the time, and I had absolutely no one to turn to for support, so I had to work hard and I had to educate myself. Now, I am living 100% debt-free in a beautiful home in a wonderful neighborhood, I have a college education and a great life. This is not because of a government program – this is because I worked my butt off to get here. If I can do it, so can others. I know that someone who is dirt poor doesn’t have to have assistance, unless they have a physical or mental disability, in order to pull themselves up and become something better than they once were.
Palin is not avoiding the media – she has had interviews and continues to have them. She is also not “avoiding” the law, she is making the smart choice by not standing by while an Obama-supporter driven lawsuit is brought against her over a very trivial matter.
How can McCain give us change? Look at his record. If you want facts, go to OntheIssues.org and you can see his history of votes and quotes regarding just about any issue you wish to find. Using the phrase ‘even Karl Rove says the GOP is full of it’ is misleading. He said that the ads were going to far on both sides, though Obama’s were the worse of the two. Also, pointing out the lobbyists in McCain’s campaign is misleading unless you also mention the lobbyists in Obama’s (including Biden’s son).
Compared to what you are paying in gas and food a tax increase would make very little difference? That depends on what kind of a tax increase you are talking about. If you are talking about a corporate tax increase, then everything you now purchase will increase in price. That includes gas, food, clothes – everything – because that cost is then shifted to you. It can also affect your pay; if you work for a company that is having to pay more for its goods because of corporate tax increases, then it is likely that your pay and benefits will not rise as rapidly as they could. It’s all economics and it’s all common sense.
What makes me better than you? I don’t know. Tell me a little about yourself. Seriously, to address your question, the only reason people say that McCain and Bush are the “same” is because they are from the same party. I urge you to take a long, hard look at McCain’s policies and plans – visit his web site. A vote for McCain is not a vote for Bush’s third term, no matter how many times Obama and his supporters say it is so.
Name ONE THING the GOP has done to help the economy – here’s a huge, massive thing: the GOP supports a strong defense system. Without a strong defense system, we could not be where we are today. While it is true that the war in Iraq costs far too much, it is also true that we have not seen another attack on our soil since 9/11. That’s been seven years – pretty startling when you think about it. Our country simply could not be strong, economically or in any other way, without a strong national defense.
As for the debates, did you ever watch any of the primary debates? Just asking. Your take on them may have been very different from mine, but I don’t think Obama is strong in the debate. Otherwise, wouldn’t he have agreed to at least one of the town hall discussions that McCain suggested? But I agree with you that I’m looking forward to the debates. I think they’ll be fun and very informative. I am especially looking forward to the Biden/Palin debate. I obviously a McCain supporter but I love Biden, and especially love him in a debate. I think Palin will be able to hold her own; she’s very intelligent and articulate, but I’m curious to see what happens.
And yes, I have checked the polls. Which poll are you checking? I suggest going to Real Clear Politics instead of MSNBC or whatever is telling you that Independents are turning blue.
But good for you for taking such an interest in politics. Although, I might suggest, if you’re so poor that you can’t afford gas, maybe you should spend some time looking for a job instead of posting to blogs? Just a thought.

Grey Matter: You’re absolutely right in your assessment; having a strong military is vital to our economy, as having a strong economy is vital to our military. The two items do go hand-in-hand, just as you said.
I think the question of where money will come from if taxes are cut is a really good one, and an important one for us to discuss. I’ve often heard politicans, on both sides, say that they will cut taxes (or at least cut taxes for the majority of Americans) while they will increase expenditures in a variety of areas. The math just doesn’t work out.
I believe that McCain economic plan is the better of the two candidates’, but of course that is up to the American people to decide. McCain is looking to repeat what happened during the Clinton years; balance the budget through bipartisan efforts to control spending. McCain has a very lengthy history that can be looked to in order to give credence to his claims that he is adamant about cutting wasteful government spending. Right now, I think we can all agree, our biggest expenditure is the Iraq war, and one of the most important reasons to support McCain is that he will see to it that the Iraq war is ended with victory, making another war in the region very unlikely, whereas Obama has vowed to end the war. It is the opinion of many that pulling troops out before victory can be achieved will lead to another war in the near future, that could be deadlier and costlier. It is better, and less expensive in the long run, to finish what we started so that we concentrate on getting our own country back on track.
When I was deciding which candidate to support, as an Independent, I looked at both candidates’ economic plans (as well as their other planned policies) and judged which I thought to be the smartest and the safest, and which plans I thought were the most achievable. I chose to support John McCain, because I think he does have the right plans and the record to back up his claims. Does that mean that I agree with all of his policies? No, but I have yet to find a politician whose policies all my own. Does that mean that I think everyone who votes for the other candidate is stupid and ill-informed? No to that too. I do think that there are a lot of people who are not educated on what it takes to run our country and how different policies and plans will impact our future. And I further think there are a lot of people who gather all of their information from television ads or left (or right) leaning blogs without doing the research needed to have an informed opinion. And that, to me, is just sad.

Haha, I’m glad I’m able to have a civil discussion with you. Sometimes I’ve been derided as being dumb or stupid by people who support McCain because I don’t agree with them. Glad to know there are plenty of people who aren;t like that :)
Well, for me the reason why I don’t agree with McCain’s policies are because of his approach towards tax cuts-letting the tax cuts for the rich to continue and continue tax cuts for the middle income. The thing is the top 1% of the income ladder contribute around 50% of all taxes paid. Where is McCain going to get the money from to continue funding the Iraq war? I mean, currently we’re borrowing money from China and stuff, and they’re charging interest.
Someone’s going to have to pick up the tab one day. I agree with Obama’s policies because he would at least increase taxes on the upper-income and corporations, so he’s going to get quite a bit of money to hopefully get rid of the huge deficit. And we do need money if we want to have a war.
I think it is also important that we build up the military back to its original strength before Iraq-in order to face future conflicts. This is something Obama has vowed to do. Iraq was a disaster, and the best we can do now of course it to try and adapt to the situation.
I don’t see the Iraq war being won anytime soon, because the Iraq war can be won only when the country is finally stable and not overrun with insurgents. I think the problem is that in order for a democracy to flourish, Iraq needs to have other strong institutions such a free media, research groups and think tanks to support it-otherwise it’ll just crumble. Their people’s mindsets need to change, and unfortunately this can’t happen fast enough. Because they’ve been under a dictatorship-and colonial rule before that, Iraqis aren’t able to properly support a democracy.
His choice of Palin has also been a point of contention for me, since she appears shaky on foreign policy. I mean, considering McCain’s age, I think he should have factored in the fact that he might not finish his term and his VP would have to succeed him when choosing his VP.

So, Obama should have said:
“I presented a plan in January and Congress later passed a stimulus package. Evidently my plan was a good idea, because Congress passed and gave you basically what I proposed”
“Did they choose John McCain’s ideas? No, they didn’t. Somehow, it seems I have good ideas and John McCain doesn’t.
“Just like the Iraqi government and Condi Rice have agreed with my timetable for withdrawl in Iraq. Just like Condi Rice and George Bush and 5 former Secretaries of State (including McCain’s own advisor Henry Kissinger) have agreed with my idea to use direct diplomacy with Iran BEFORE we bomb them (instead of bomb first and talk later, like John McCain seems to want to do).”
“Just like how I presented a plan LAST YEAR to regulate a Wall Street financial industry that is out of control, while John McCain is still waiting for a 3 year commission to study his lobbyists plans, before he disregards everything and ‘goes with his gut’ irregardless.”
So, to sum up:
“My ideas and judgement = good”
“John McCain’s ideas = wacky and irresponsible”

Sure, you the right to think what you want, but will you please not resort to attacks on my intelligence? There are people who support McCain with whom I’ve been able to have a civil discussion.
And what do you mean corporations don’t pay taxes? They do. It’s levied on a percentage of their profits.
Look, even if we want to take a hardline stance with Iran or Noth Korea, we must have the means to do so. If we do not have a strong economy, we will not be able to have a strong military either- and we will not be able to deal with any future threats.
We are running in a deficit, and the money has to come from somewhere. The upper-income and the huge corporations-especially the oil companies which are rolling in huge profits are those that can afford to bleed. And government regulations can of course control corporations so they will not be allowed to drive up costs with the addition of extra taxes.
And socialism is more than just giving people a tax cut and credits. It means the state doesn’t allow any privatisation and all your banks, land, assets and whatnot are all predominantly controlled by the government. I don’t see that happening here anytime soon just because of tax cuts.

Okay, now which of the candidates is supposed to be old, senile, confused and delusional?
Sounds like Obama is having a “Senior moment”….again.
Either that or his “has all the answers”, Milli-Vanilli teleprompter wasn’t working when he made those untrue remarks.

Hey, Obama doesn’t have a rich wife to get money from or more houses than he can count to mortgage if the campaign needs money. So he has to RAISE it.

True Patriot:
FACT: Obama was born in Hawaii. He did not “pull himself up” from anywhere in Kansas.
FACT: Obama’s “typical white” grandmother was VP of a bank.
He also attended a prestigious school in Hawaii.
What evidence OTHER THAN that from Obama or his books exists to prove he was not only offered jobs with Wall Street firms, but also turned down those same offers?
Elite is an attitude not a dollar amount.

Who is Obama kidding? President Bush proposed rebate checks in January. And it was hardly a new idea, they did it back in 2001, too. Obama sure does love taking credit for stuff he didn’t do.

THe stimulus package is nothing short of an obama attempt to nationalize the economy. If you think nationalizing anything, especialy medicine for some reason like “Oh all of the poor people who can’t get the waiting list that they need”, than listen up. In Canada they have nationalized health care. They now have long waiting lines for treatments to slove life threatening problems. THis is a disaster. A conversation with a Canadian doctor might go something like this,”Help me I need khemo therapy tommarow or I die” sorry the waiting list says you can’t get it for a year and a half have a nice day.” Bottom line nationalizing anything does not work. If obama succeeds in nationalizing our economy he will make us no beter than communist russia. Please do not let him do that. Please value your freedom, please value the very principals on which this country was founded. And please don’t fall into the media’s trap and make victims out of inocent bystanders like wallstreet CEOs. Please help save our country.