By Julia Hoppock

Sep 18, 2008 6:02pm

Obama: McCain Can’t Decide if He’s Goldwater or Kucinich

ESPANOLA, NM — In a dusty town square in the town of Espanola in the north central region of the battleground state of New Mexico, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., Thursday afternoon continued to assail opponent Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., as someone who would do or say anything to get elected.

"All of a sudden, he’s has become a populist," Obama said. "Now he’s unleashed an angry tirade against all the insiders and lobbyists who happened to have supported him for the last twenty-six years – the same folks who are running his campaign right now."

Obama’s criticisms were entirely focused on McCain’s positions on the economy, with the Democrat portraying his GOP rival as a flip-flopping poseur.

"John McCain can’t decide whether he’s Barry Goldwater or Dennis Kucinich," Obama said, referring to the libertarian free-market conservative Republican and the left-wing Democrat who opposes free trade. "He’s not clear about what he thinks or what he believes."

"Well, I have a message for Senator McCain," Obama continued. "You can’t just run away from your long-held views or your life-long record. You can’t erase twenty-six years of support for the very policies and people who helped bring in this disaster with one week of rants. You can’t just erase all that with one week worth of rants. What we need is honest talk and real solutions."

Obama made mention of McCain’s pledge today to fire Securities and Exchange Commissioner Chris Cox, which a president does not have the legal ability to do in a literal sense, though certainly political pressures can be brought to bear to force a commissioner to resign.

"He’s calling for the firing of the Securities and Exchange Commission(er)," Obama said, "Well, I think that’s all fine and good, but here’s what I say: In the next 47 days, you can fire the whole Trickle-Down, On-Your-Own, Look-the-Other-Way crowd in Washington who has led us down this disastrous path. Don’t just get rid of one guy, get rid of this administration, get rid of this philosophy, get rid of the do nothing approach and put somebody in there who is going to fight for you."

Obama noted that McCain earlier this week said that "the fundamentals of the economy are strong."

"This comment – this comment was out so out of touch that even George Bush’s White House couldn’t agree with it when they were asked about it," Obama said. "They had to distance theirself (sic) from John McCain."

Obama was referring to the fact that on Wednesday White House press secretary Dana Perino refused to answer reporters’ questions as to whether the fundamentals of the economy are strong, saying only that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson has asserted "that as he looks at our country and compares it with other countries, that we are in a position of strength to be able to deal with this crisis, and it’s going to take us a while to work through it."

"I recognize that this issue of strength has come into the 2008 election," Perino explained. "I’m not going to try to get involved in it."

Obama today accused McCain of not only flip-flopping on the government bailout of insurance giant AIG, but lying about Obama’s response by claiming the Democrat opposes it.

"On Tuesday, (McCain) said the government should stand aside and allow one of the nation’s largest insurers AIG, to collapse," Obama said. "I mean he said this in three different interviews despite the possibility that it would put millions of Americans at risk. But by Wednesday, he changed his mind. And today he accused me of not supporting what the Treasury and the Federal Reserve Bank did with AIG despite no evidence whatsoever that that’s what I had said."

In truth, Obama has not taken a position on the bailout of AIG, one of the most significant developments in the financial sector in modern history.

Obama blamed much of the current crisis on former Sen. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, a former co-chair of the McCain campaign who resigned after controversial comments that the U.S. was in a "mental recession"
and had become "sort of a nation of whiners."

Calling Gramm "one of the leading architects of the de-regulation in Washington that led directly to this mess on Wall Street" Obama pointed out that Gramm "also happens to be the architect of John McCain’s economic plan. There was talk that John McCain wanted to put in charge of the Treasury Department if John McCain was elected."

The Democrat said that when he was "warning about the danger ahead on Wall Street months ago because of the lack of oversight, Sen. McCain was telling the Wall Street Journal — and I quote —‘ I’m always for less regulation.’ This is what he said just a few months ago. Except now, with the magnitude of the crisis apparent even to the Bush White House, John McCain wants to reverse himself, he wants to reverse course. Now, all of a sudden, he has become a populist."

– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller

User Comments

Excellent, keep on McCain flip flopping all over the place because the only plan he had before was deregulation!
The tide is swinging!

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Well we know Palin is Karl Marx. That much is clear.

Posted by: johnTX | September 18, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

“Well we know Palin is Karl Marx. That much is clear.”
I was actually thinking of Harpo.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

After the callopse of a major financial instatution that has been a major force in America and more than 900-points fall, how can enyone in their right mind vote for this The McCain team. You must be insane and lying to yourself. McCain is loosing and even republicans are jumping on board..Look at me a women, moderate republican supporting Obama-Biden. McCain and Palin will be remember mostly for lying to the Amerincan people. Sad!!!

Posted by: Jess | September 18, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Well, Palin certainly isn’t an economist like Marx, that’s true. I guess that was giving her too much credit.

Posted by: johnTX | September 18, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

McCain seems confused these days.
Kinda shaky, too.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

McCain’s simply confused.
He has no credibility on the economy even with Palin’s executive “experience” right by his side.
That why the Palin bounce is over.

Posted by: Vanessa | September 18, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Atta boy!!

Posted by: hang | September 18, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Hey Tapper… WHY DIDN’T YOU PRINT WHAT OBAMA PROPOSED TO DO TO ADDRESS THE CRISIS:
The events of the past few days have made clear that we need to do more right now. We do not have time for commissions and we can’t afford to lurch back and forth between positions when dealing with an economic crisis, like my opponent has. That is why I am calling on the Treasury and the Federal Reserve to use their emergency authorities to maintain the flow of credit, to support the availability of mortgages, and to ensure that our financial system is well-capitalized.
Tomorrow I will be convening a meeting with my top economic advisors to discuss a plan based on the ideas I’ve been talking about with former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and other advisors of mine. Then I’ll call for the passage of a Homeowner and Financial Support Act that would establish a more stable and permanent solution than the daily improvisations that have characterized policy-making over the last year. Specifically, it would accomplish three primary goals.
First, it will provide capital to the financial system. Second, it will provide liquidity to enable our financial markets to function. And third, it will do what I’ve been calling for since I supported legislation on it early last spring, which is to get serious about helping struggling families to re-structure their mortgages on more affordable terms so they can stay in their homes. We’ve made a good start but we need to do much, much more. We cannot forget that there are many homeowners who are in crisis through no fault of their own, and a solution that does not have them at its core is no solution at all.

Posted by: PJ | September 18, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Next McCain will have us bombing Spain.
Time for a nap, John.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

“McCain seems confused these days.
Kinda shaky, too.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 18, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

“Well, Palin certainly isn’t an economist like Marx, that’s true. I guess that was giving her too much credit.”
I just hear a horn go off every time she does that making a point with her fist thing.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

There are some similarities between McCain and Kucinich. Both march to the beat of their own drummer. In the wake of the Wall Street meltdown, Obama should be well ahead. Blaming the Republicans is an obvious and useful maneuver, but Obama has to get to the 50th percentile to win in November. If the economy blame game doesn’t get him there, what will?

Posted by: independent | September 18, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

Keep hitting Obama….YEAH BABY!!!

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 18, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Uh. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton dislike Obama quite a bit. You see, they don’t think Obama is “black enough” and they are annoyed that he stole their spotlight as “black leaders”.
I there is a distinct undercurrent of hatred here.

Posted by: johnTX | September 18, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

McCain spins like weathervane in a hurricane.
I’m for it … I’m against it …I’m for it … I’m against it …
10 am “Economy is strong”
11 am “Economy’s in crisis”
How many houses have I got?
Spain? Never heard of it.
Hey … she’s kinda cute … WANNA BE MY RUNNING MATE?
MASSIVE FAIL.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

McCain is punch drunk! GO OBAMA

Posted by: linda n carolina | September 18, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Obama is out of control. He’s the most hideous candidate since Richard Nixon and the most hypocritical since there ever was a candidate.

Posted by: young_voter | September 18, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

McCain’s speech has become a farce. The policy of look-the-other-way regulation is John McCain’s policy.
On the one hand, we have McCain LYING (ask factcheck.org) about Obama’s tax policy which gives a tax cut to the middle class, and the preposterous LIE that Obama wanted schools to teach sex to kindergarteners. (In fact, the legislation in question calls for AGE APPROPRIATE (exact words) teaching for kids on how to avoid predators!
Then on the other hand, John McCain is LYING about his own LOOK-THE-OTHER-WAY policy regarding the financial markets.
Do issues matter? McCain laughed at all working women when he supported the Republican FILLIBUSTER of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.
Does character matter? McCain was caught LYING about the LIES in his ads on “The View”.
John McCain once admitted that he sold out when he endorsed the flying of the Southern flag of Rebellion. Isn’t it time for him to admit he has sold his soul again and again in order to win the Republican nomination and this campaign?

Posted by: John | September 18, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

McCain: Goldwater vs Kucinich: That was the 2nd BEST line of the day!!!
But the BEST line of the day was:
“Well, I think that’s all fine and good, but here’s what I say: In the next 47 days, you can fire the whole Trickle-Down, On-Your-Own, Look-the-Other-Way crowd in Washington who has led us down this disastrous path. Don’t just get rid of one guy, get rid of this administration, get rid of this philosophy, get rid of the do nothing approach and put somebody in there who is going to fight for you.”

Posted by: Samantha | September 18, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

PJ
So, Obama comes up with something three days late and it’s basically what’s already been done.
Obama – the shallow one!

Posted by: dl | September 18, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

McCain is about to totally lose it….you heard it here first!!!

Posted by: marc | September 18, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Hey I like both Goldwater and Kucinich. I do not like McCain, but I do understand what Obama is trying to say.

Posted by: Huh | September 18, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

McCain is Elmer Fudd.
Palin is Porky Pig.
LOL

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

belle star
two words
sarah palin
yea that was a good vp pick… whos running mccains camp people seem to think hes not doing it and that everyone else is just telling him what to do now….
he wanted joe lieberman
lol mccain doesnt know up from down or left from right
bearings are gone
thanks but no thanks mccain

Posted by: Bhrandon | September 18, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

He has taken a position. He will not ‘second-guess’ the administration’s decision. Essentially, he’s for the bailout.

Posted by: David | September 18, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

The old guy is confused. Watch him grit his teeth and squint his eyes. “Gotta appear tough, safe, strong. I don’t have a clue what they’re asking me about. Quick, gotta say something!”

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 18, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

“two words
sarah palin”
Can’t stop talking about her. Must be love.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

McCain can’t decide whether he’s George W. Bush or George W. Bush.
LOLOL

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

Not fair to compare a 26-year record in the Senate to a less-than-one year record. Of course McCain’s positions have changed. The economy, the country has changed.
Obama himself – in his short, legislation-free, committee-recommendation-free, time in the Senate has been:
For and against public funding of campaigns
For and against immunity for the telecoms
For and against more offshore drilling
For and against bailouts for these financial companies

Posted by: Barb in MN | September 18, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Reagan and Bush, Sr. racked up a huge national debt…
Clinton fixed it… and gave us a surplus!
George W. Bush racked up a huge national debt…
Obama will fix it!
…because today’s Democrats are the true fiscal conservatives!

Posted by: M. Ochoa | September 18, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

Obama Can’t Decide if He’s Carter or Pelosi.

Posted by: george | September 18, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

McCain’s campaign is like an RV weaving down the highway at high speed with the 4-way flashers on. The other drivers on the know something is wrong, so they slow down and watch for the inevitable crash.

Posted by: doug | September 18, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

A message to Obama and McCain: As you two bad-mouth each other, you make it sound like neither of you is qualified to serve in ANY capacity. C’mon… you were both elected senators, so neither one of you is stupid!
Let’s hear what YOU can do for America, not what the other guy CAN’T do! I am sick of this non-stop mud-slinging.

Posted by: Rhys | September 18, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Sure, Obama, put Fannie Maes Jim Johnson in charge of finding your vice president?? What a lying hypocrite you are Obama, I am actually afraid of you!

Posted by: casey | September 18, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

McCain can’t decide whether he’s Francisco Franco or Mr. Magoo.
I like this game. : )

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Barry or Barack?
Black Liberation theologian or Weather Underground?

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

“today’s Democrats are the true fiscal conservatives!”
LOL. This is the best joke I have ever heard.

Posted by: george | September 18, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

“Sure, Obama, put Fannie Maes Jim Johnson in charge of finding your vice president?? What a lying hypocrite you are Obama, I am actually afraid of you!”
That’s not the Jim Johnson that he knew.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

Obama:
Campaigned against Hillary because she voted for the war then selects Biden.
Embraced Rev Wright for 20 years until the entire public saw him on display.
Sat with Ayers on the Woods Foundation and states I barely knew him, some guy who lives in my neighborhood.
Worked out some

Posted by: Got Smears | September 18, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

John McCain can’t decide whether he’s John McCain or Barack Obama.

Posted by: M. Ochoa | September 18, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Today’s housing crisis is partly due to Democratic initiatives of letting more people own houses. The government bailed-out 2F’s had to offer subprime loans to millions of people who cannot afford at the first place. Now they are blaming republican for that. What a joke! It is the Democrats who always want a big government and government control on everything.

Posted by: george | September 18, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Barb in MN:
Keep then coming!
Rezko
Audachi
Ayers
Wright
Farrakhan
………just nice people!

Posted by: Got Smears | September 18, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Everybody who is curious how McCain would act during a time of crisis, should take a very close look at him these days.
McCain has been all over the place and has become extremely erratic. He’s having a panic attack right now and is pushing every button in sight to strike back.
Now imagine him when actual lifes are at stake …

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 18, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

McCain can’t decide whether he’s Yosemite Sam or Droopy Dog.

Posted by: Ed from MA | September 18, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Once again McCain proves he is more of the same. And Palin is even more like Bush than he is. A second tier cowboy governor who tells tall tales (you know the made up kind) with a folksy drawl while packing her administration with cronies and classmates. Anti science and pro-big oil. Palin might as well be George Bush…lipstick or not.

Posted by: Cal | September 18, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

there are 57 delegate ‘states’ at th dnc. still a gaffe, but not how the haters like to tell it.

Posted by: mm | September 18, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

“Now imagine him when actual lifes are at stake …”
I’d rather have an ex-pilot than someone that turned to drugs during times of stress.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

The McCain campaign meltdown continues.
After spending the last week blasting Congress he has released ads that talk about him and his Congressional allies.
Huh?
Oh yeah, he has to do that to comply with FEC regs because those ads are paid for by the RNC.
So to recap.
McCain has to contradict himself to get around spending limits in his commercial.
This from the reformer of campaign finance.
LOL

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

Campaigned against Hillary because she voted for the war then selects Biden.
Embraced Rev Wright for 20 years until the entire public saw him on display.
Sat with Ayers on the Woods Foundation and states I barely knew him, some guy who lives in my neighborhood.”
Barely knew Rezko too…for 17 years
———-
You are out of topic!!
And CAIN is out of touch.
You guys belong together. When are you getting married?
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES AND CORRUPTION.
THIS TIME,
DEMOCRATS ALL THE WAY!!

Posted by: Al | September 18, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

“ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES AND CORRUPTION.”
What lies?

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

I’d like to point out McCain in his 2007 book wrote :
“I didn’t decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president.”
His Reform Campaign is just a desperate attempt to pass himself off as someone who cares about the little people.

Posted by: Chuck | September 18, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

I don’t understand. How is meeting with someone reckless?
I mean, when did diplomacy become some kind of admission to failure?

Posted by: johnTX | September 18, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

“ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES AND CORRUPTION.”
What lies?
“No one thought they would crash planes into buildings”
“The air at ground zero is safe”
“Saddam bought Nigeria Uranium Yellowcake”
“Iraqi intelligence met with hijacker”
“Saddam has suitcase nukes and a personal connection to Al Queda”
“They will greet us as liberators”
“The insurgency is in its last throes”
That’s just from the 1st couple of years under the Iraq?War of Terror file.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

I wish someone would ask McCain why he thinks putting his hands over his ears and yelling across the ocean is an effective foreign policy.
Talking to enemies is the first step in diplomacy.
Our current system of not talking to anyone and hoping the country implodes is stupid.

Posted by: johnTX | September 18, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Obama needs to take some time off and install those solar panels on hid house he keeps ranting about.
He must have got the internal memo: They are running as mavericks who will bring change. mention lobbyists.

Posted by: Got Smears | September 18, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

“McCain’s right. 0bama went to Iraq and put more of our troops at risk so he could benefit politically.”
Not too mention he couldn’t be bothered to visit the wounded troops. had to work his biceps so that he can flex them on the View and Oprah.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Mack, uh. Obama visited the wounded troops in Iraq.
And McCain asked Obama to go to Iraq. McCain must be going senile if he doesn’t remember that.

Posted by: johnTX | September 18, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

This McCain is an economic hooligan. This guy will say absolutely anything. He has no principles. McWindsock.

Posted by: JTS | September 18, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

In case you GOP fanatics don’t get it – Obama doesn’t need to be an economics whiz-kid to recover from this mess. He has some great folks on his side including the Sage of Omaha. Now you can smear all you want but the fact of the matter is that when you want that extra money you do go to the Sage for advice.

Posted by: Silverbeard | September 18, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

“In case you GOP fanatics don’t get it – Obama doesn’t need to be an economics whiz-kid to recover from this mess”
He has his teleprompter.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

“Talking to enemies is the first step in diplomacy.”
Well obviously John McCain is a coward who can talk tough about bombing another country but is too afraid to talk to the leader he of the country he wants to bomb.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

“You can’t just run away from your long-held views or your life-long record.”
Worked for Obama so far. Maybe McCain needs a bigger bus. It doesn’t seem like either of the turkeys are talking about fixed incomes for seniors and students, jobs for the kids coming out of college, how we boomahs recover from watching our 401ks turn into melted cheese ten years from retirement, and anything else that we might actually care about.
If the polls are right and people voting issues are voting Obama but people voting character are voting McCain, then there is something very wrong here because 45% thinks they can get work done on the issues by a man who’s character they doubt, and the other 45% thinks a man with good character can’t get any work done on the issues.
And that explains why 10% are watching this in abject horror and amazement.

Posted by: len | September 18, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

“Mack, uh. Obama visited the wounded troops in Iraq.”
Landstuhl

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Is this an all-troll message board or something? How come whenever McCain gets tripped up on a REAL ISSUE FACING AMERICA, the trolls line up to smear Obama about trivial stupid Faux-talking-point crap that doesn’t matter? Do you think I want to compare Palin’s church with McCain’s church to Obama’s church right now as the country’s financial health is getting defib’d in ER????
You Repub are a desperately stupid bunch. Why don’t you pretend to care about the USA for a change?

Posted by: SueP | September 18, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Senior McCain adviser Charlie Black stated that the assassination of Bhutto was good for McCain and that a terrorist attack on US soil would be even better.
Gotta love those Patriotic republicans!

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Mr. Warren Buffett has endorsed Barack Obama for president and intimated that John McCain’s views on social justice were so far from his own that McCain would need a “lobotomy” for Buffett to change his endorsement.
And this is the world’s richest man talking so you GOP bobbleheads better stop your smearing and feel the winds of change

Posted by: Wolf | September 18, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Warren Buffett said that he’d let Obama run any of his companies.
Carl Fiorina said that Palin and McCain couldn’t run a 7-11.

Posted by: johnTX | September 18, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

“Senior McCain adviser Charlie Black stated that the assassination of Bhutto was good for McCain and that a terrorist attack on US soil would be even better.
Gotta love those Patriotic republicans! ”
And Barry’s mentor of 20 years stated that God should damm America.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Seems obama has run out of everything except contempt and ridicule. All he is trying to do is get the negative attention off him and on his more capable opponent. What happen to the high road obama? Or does he mean the HIGH road he took in his younger days? Obama has nothing left except the hope that his magic syntax, hypnotizing delivery thereof and a million dollar smile will keep people confused long enough to forget that he is totally unqualified to be POTUS.

Posted by: M/P 08 | September 18, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

“Carl Fiorina said that Palin and McCain couldn’t run a 7-11″
She also said that Joey Biden and Barry O’Bama couldn’t either.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

right and this is the same carly fiornia who received a $21 million golden parachute for leaving HP. and she’s campaigning for McCain who is fighting for reform from those evil CEO’s who receive golden parachutes…wait what am i saying?

Posted by: Wolf | September 18, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Mack, yes, but Warren Buffett probably wouldn’t offer Carly a job in the mail room.

Posted by: johnTX v1 | September 18, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Obama should totally be O’Bama. He’d totally wrap up the Irish vote.

Posted by: johnTX v1 | September 18, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

“right and this is the same carly fiornia who received a $21 million golden parachute for leaving HP. and she’s campaigning for McCain who is fighting for reform from those evil CEO’s who receive golden parachutes…wait what am i saying?”
er…um….uh…Jim Johnson! A very fresh wound.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Obama just lost the Kucinich vote.

Posted by: Zank | September 18, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

er.um uh. Keating 5.

Posted by: Wolf | September 18, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

“Mack, yes, but Warren Buffett probably wouldn’t offer Carly a job in the mail room.”
I wouldn’t either.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

McCain can’t decide if he’s GW or Dan Quayle. Palin can’t decide if she’s GW or Dan Quayle. Heaven help us.
No way, no how, no McBush/Quaylin.

Posted by: Ed | September 18, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Ugh. I hate MSNBC more than I hate FoxNews. One station doesn’t pretend to have any balance and the other one insists on telling me over and over how fair and balanced it purports to be even during opinion programs.

Posted by: johnTX v1 | September 18, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

” …a president does not have the legal ability to [fire the head of the SEC in a literal sense, but] certainly political pressures can be brought to bear to force a commissioner to resign.”
That’s right down Palin’s alley. That must be the experience McCain is always talking about.

Posted by: Jerry Ulibarri | September 18, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

The right wing circus is out in force today.
Must be the bad news about McCain’s drop in the poll, Palin’s crashing fav numbers and the creeping realization that a black man will be President.
As ugly as it is, I am enjoying every howl because I know it comes from a place of desperation.
Obama is going to win!

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm

I read a recent study that found that over the last sixty years, the economy has grown twice as fast under Democratic Presidents as it has under Republicans while the national debt has grown ten times faster under the GOP. That same study found that for 95 percent us, the economy actually grew four times as fast under Democrats. Most the Republican growth came for the top 5.

Posted by: Johnnrail | September 18, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Nancy – go drink a beer with Dubya – you are going to need it.

Posted by: Wolf | September 18, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

Obama hasn’t taken a position on AIG because he was beholding to them BIG TIME! Obama represents what is absolutely wrong with Washington.

Posted by: dl | September 18, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Oh, boy. Here we have a man who took over a 100k from Freddie and Fannie, who hired TWO CEO’s from the firms…
Please, can someone tell me why Bush’s plan in 2003 to overhaul these two companies died in committee? Why McCain’s call for reform in ’05 died in (Dem) committee? Why, if he’s such a genius, didn’t Obama side with McCain on reform?
Since Congress has been Democrat since ’06, and the House Dem since ’04, why haven’t their been more regulations added if it was indeed necessary?
Answer: Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, and your man Obama all received over 100k from Fannie lobbyists….while having oversight over Fannie!!!!
But its all BUUUUUSHHHHS fault, right??
All you supposed experts, please define exactly how these credit markets are different now than when Clinton was in office, other than having a Dem controlled lobbying group help to relax credit rules to allow more homeownership….which is at the core of this crisis.
Obama can’t decide if he’s running on Hope and Change, it sounds like he’s running for Mayor of Chicago right now.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Spain’s rains mainly on McCain.

Posted by: federico garcia lorca | September 18, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Do you realize the fundamental difference in what Democrats and Republicans say when they are face to face with an ignorant and arrogant person?
Democrats – you have your views and i have mine but hey this country is big enough for both of us
Republicans – Howdy partner!

Posted by: Wolf | September 18, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Ok, Johnn, it makes sense that (1) the economy grows faster under Democrats than it does under GOP presidents, and (2) that most of the Republican growth occurs for the rich while the Democratic growth is more spread out. Point (2) is actually a cause of point (1). If wealth becomes more concentrated at the top (as it does under Republicans), then the rest of the people don’t have enough money to buy–houses, consumer goods, or anything else the economy produces. You can overcome this problem for awhile with easy credit to the masses to allow them to buy (think subprime housing loans), but eventually people reach a saturation point in terms of their ability to continue to borrow and buy and make payments, and the whole economy starts falling apart. That’s what happened in the Republican-led 1920′s that caused the Great Depression, and that’s what’s happening now. My god, do something. My right-wing, fascist, racist, anti-intellectual friend is voting. Are you?

Posted by: jilljones | September 18, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

“Please, can someone tell me why Bush’s plan in 2003 to overhaul these two companies died in committee? Why McCain’s call for reform in ’05 died in (Dem) committee”
McCain was merely a cosponsor.
The Republicans still controlled in 2005 & 2006.
Dems took over both chambers of Congress starting Jan 2007.
Why the sudden spate of easily disproven lies hippie chucker?
You usually make an argument.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

Dear Mr. Obama
You got more money from the corrupt Freddie/Fannie than anyone else but the head of the committee himself.
Bush tried to reign in the mess, but your leadership did nothing.
McCain tried to do something, but your party didn’t do anything.
You are a fraud.

Posted by: John | September 18, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

“then the rest of the people don’t have enough money to buy–houses, consumer goods, or anything else the economy produces.’
You’re so right. I was only able to buy one i-phone. Oh the Humanity!

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Can someone explain how $864 billion in new spending will solve our current credit and housing crisis, as Obama, and many of his followers think?
How does raising taxes help our economy get back on its feet?
Obama himself admitted last week he might have to delay his tax increases because the timing was bad.
When is the timing good, Senator?

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

Ok, we’ve got this settled:
Republicans equal slow economic growth and only for the rich.
Democrats equal greater economic growth and for everyone.
And the reason the slim Democratic majority did not produce more regulations on Wall Street over the last two years is because they faced a GOP filibuster, had to depend on the vote of closet Republican Joe Lieberman for their majority, and didn’t have the votes to override a Bush veto.
Give them a true majority, and a Democratic President if you want action.

Posted by: Johnnrail | September 18, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

“Democrats equal greater economic growth and for everyone.”
Err….what about Jimmy Carter? The economy grew, but in a negative direction.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Don’t worry if you are out in the cold due to the economy collapse – John McCain Rambo & Ma Sarah Baker will provide you with enough hot air and moose stew to keep you warm.
McCain/Palin 08 – because the world wants our butt to be whupped.

Posted by: Mosey | September 18, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

So it appears that McKnucklehead has caused a diplomatic row with Spain.
SPAIN!
God help us when Palin meets other world leaders at the UN next week.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

“Can someone explain how $864 billion in new spending will solve our current credit and housing crisis, as Obama, and many of his followers think?”
Because that’s what his teleprompter told him?

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

Before Reagan took office, the top marginal tax rate-70%.
Our economy with its high taxes was going gangbusters under Carter!!!!
It was great, you remember? Everyone had to conserve our natural resources, cuz there wasn’t any oil for a time, and inflation was like, super high!

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Spain – aren’t they part of the Coalition of the Drilling…err Willing?

Posted by: Mosey | September 18, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

jpt quotes The CHANGEling:
“What we need is honest talk and real solutions.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 18, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

McCain wants to give huge tax cuts to the rich while giving only tiny cuts to the rest of us. This will only push more and more money into the hands of the rich, and a mal-distribution of wealth is the root cause of our current economic crisis.
Obama wants to give the middle class a much larger tax break, in many cases one hundred times more than McCain. He also wants to take back some of the special privileges that Bush and company have given to the super rich and make them carry their fair share of the burden.
Anyone who understands economics understands that Obama’s solution is the only one that will work. McCain’s solution is simply more of the same trickle-down economic policy that has produced the crisis.

Posted by: LopezGonzalo | September 18, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

The other bit of Terrific Obama Economic News…he wants to pass the Global Poverty Act.
This is a great plan, that takes .07 of our GDP, and simply gives it away to poor countries!
Seriously, that will totally lower taxes for everyone, when were almost giving a way 1 percent of our countries output!

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

“”What we need is honest talk and real solutions.”
Hey, that’s not how they do things in Chicago. Try something new I guess.

Posted by: Mack | September 18, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Obama should not talk about McCain trying to hide his background until he comes clean about his own. Its quite obvious he is not forthcoming about many things such as many unsavory folks and/or positions he has tried to distance himself from Ayers, Reszko, Wright, Pfleger, The Born Alive Bill, pushing the wrong button, his lack of significant accomplishments, etc.
‘Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.’

Posted by: Justmy02 | September 18, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

McCain supporters dont remember that v all r in hell-bent situation Republican party is in the tank for special interests especially the top rich who r scared to share the burden in the form of taxes they r saying the same old thing attacking their opponent while not putting forward what McCain will do to help, obama has his plan up and what he will do,mccain same old crap saying nothingthat v will not raise taxes on the rich, thats why i’m switching my vote to obama.

Posted by: vread | September 18, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Mack, you need to learn a little history. Over the last sixty years, the economy has grown twice as fast under Democratic Presidents as it has under Republicans, and for most of it, it has grown nearly six times faster. Only the rich benefit from GOP trickle-down economics.

Posted by: Johnnrail | September 18, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

“Give them a true majority, and a Democratic President if you want action.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 18, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

I feel so sorry for McSame. The world has just become too complex for his limited mental capacities. He knows this is his last chance at the presidency and he is willing to sell his soul to the devil to get it.
Just watch McSame continue to pull things out of the proverbial hat. He can’t decide if he’s Obama or David Copperfield.
Poor McBush, McBama, McField, McPalin, or whoever he happens to be at the moment.

Posted by: Joe B | September 18, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Mack,
Did you forget about the 82 Reagan recession, the worst economic recession since the Great Depression?
Read about the faster Economic growth under Democratic Presidents in Unequal Democracy: The Political Economy of the New Gilded Age by Larry M. Bartels.
Educate yourself. Don’t just depend on your faulty memory. That’s what John McCain does. Let’s see, where is Spain?

Posted by: Johnnrail | September 18, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

Lopez, lopez lopez.
Obama’s first order is to repeal the bush tax cuts….which help all sectors, middle and upper classes.
So right away, he’s raising taxes on the middle class, see? It’s a shell game.
But your right. The rich do need to pay more, cuz the top 1% already pay 39% of all taxes in America.
And 38% of us dont even pay any taxes!
Definitely, lets tax those that have the ability to create jobs, and tax businesses that we all depend on, which raises prices for everything you use.
/sarc off.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

“This is a great plan, that takes .07 of our GDP, and simply gives it away to poor countries!”
Terrorism thrives in poor uneducated countries.
The Global Poverty Program will cost less than the Iraq War and actual have some results at reducing poverty and by extension terrorism.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

“Obama’s first order is to repeal the bush tax cuts….which help all sectors, middle and upper classes.”
Obama plans to repeal the Bush tax cut for the highest income bracket. He plans to keep i place the Bush rates for all other income levels.
Hippie chucker what is up with the obvious lies?
I know your candidate is in the toilet but you usually make fact based arguments.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

Another McCain flip-flop just reported. He now says that he didn’t mean that he would fire the SEC chairman (because the president CAN’T); he would ask him to resign.
The McCain campaign — the gift that keeps on giving to the Democrats.
The Obama campaign is hitting its groove. He was GREAT on the stump in New Mexico today.

Posted by: Blue in Michigan | September 18, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

“[McCain] knows this is his last chance at the presidency”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 18, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

“Did you forget about the 82 Reagan recession, the worst economic recession since the Great Depression?”
Reagan raised taxes that year to combat the budget deficit as inflation went beserk.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

McCain is back-tracking and swinging like a pendulum if McCain loses this election his stupid team will have to be blamed the way they have conducted themselves, McCain is neither staying on the message nor discussing his plan. Long Obama ad was to go his website and study his plan, McCain should also try to say something and do more than lower taxes for corporations like oil companies, I’m now back to undecided and probably will note vote republican if they kept on changing their positions on day to day issues.

Posted by: avg. joe | September 18, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

hippie_chucker: didn’t anyone tell you that trickle down economics FAILED?

Posted by: Blue in Michigan | September 18, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

Hey Belle Star, you’re being sexist. Are you criticizing Michelle Obama for being a strong woman?
It’s obvious who wears the pants in the Palin family — it ain’t the “first dude.”
Can’t have it both ways.

Posted by: Blue in Michigan | September 18, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

“He now says that he didn’t mean that he would fire the SEC chairman (because the president CAN’T); he would ask him to resign.”

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 18, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

hippie_chucker, read the book i mentioned and then figure out why our foreign policy sucks and then figure out why most of the world hates us. If we are so cognizant about energy needs, then why didn’t we sign up for any of the energy cap policies a lot of countries have signed up for?

Posted by: Boondocks | September 18, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Ryan,
Not trying to lie, Ill have to see the facts for myself on the tax cuts. My understanding was a repeal of Bush’s cuts wholesale.
Remember, all the 9/11 hijackers were wealthy, educated Muslims. British subway bombers were surgeons.
Osama as you know is very wealthy…if poverty breeds radicalism, the Panthers or Aryan Brotherhood would be killing us all, right?
9/11 alone cost us a trillion dollars…you could argue that preventing another attack is a savings as well.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

2/3 of US corporations pay no corporate income tax. 2/3 of foreign corporations doing business in the us pay no corporate income tax.

Posted by: Mike | September 18, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

“What we have is the worlds biggest country, and have the highest standard of living anywhere, anytime.”
Ehhh… ever been to Sweden? Germany? France? Switzerland?
etc.
And what about healt care in America? We’re doing a LOT, and I mean a LOOOT worse than the countries mentioned.
What about the minimal wage?
Social security?
Pensions?
Ehhh… mortgages?

Posted by: zenith | September 18, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Can’t have it both ways.

Posted by: Belle Starr | September 18, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

And just for the record, hippie_chucker – our country is the third largest. As a world traveller by your own admission, you should know that.

Posted by: Boondocks | September 18, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

“The Global Poverty Program will cost less than the Iraq War and actual have some results at reducing poverty and by extension terrorism.”
That’s the standard talking point, but I hope you don’t honestly believe that. The Global Poverty Program as far as I can see is unconstitutional and is nothing more than an official UN shakedown of the US taxpayer. I can hardly think of a worse idea.

Posted by: Woody | September 18, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

Boondocks-
You mean the Kyoto treaty, right?
Bush didnt sign it because the worst polluters in the world havent signed on-China and India. It makes little sense to risk jobs and burden industry heavily (and believe me, complying with emissions standards is incredibly expensive) when we have cleaner air here than 30 years ago.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

“Not trying to lie, Ill have to see the facts for myself on the tax cuts. My understanding was a repeal of Bush’s cuts wholesale.”
Fair enough.
Go to Tax Policy study of both plans for an objective view (they deal purely with taxs, not spending)
The 3 main tax increases for Obama are the income tax on the highest income bracket (back to 39%), he will insitute a payroll tax on income over $200K of 4% and he plans to raise the rate on capital gains for the highest income tax bracket from 15% to 20%.
He plans to leave the Bush income tax cuts on the all income levels(sans the highest of course) and is offering a whole host of tax breaks to middle class families.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Boondocks,
Cool, keep the insults coming. I meant economically large, not geographically, sir.
As far as Western Europe’s standard of living, obviously it’s on par. (and got that way due to the Marshall Plan, remember!!!)
My point was that we have a high standard of living, that’s why we consume energy, which Boondocks feels guilty for, apparently.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

And do you know who supplied the technology to the world’s worst polluters? And which of our companies made money out of it?

Posted by: Boondocks | September 18, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

The United States has one of the widest rich-poor gap of any high-income nation today, and that gap continues to grow.
Prominent economists including Alan Greenspan have warned that the widening rich-poor gap in the U.S. population is a problem that could undermine and destabilize the country’s economy and standard of living.
On the Human Poverty Index the United States ranks 16th.

Posted by: hassel | September 18, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Woody,
Helping people climb out of poverty has tremendous benefits for the entire world. Jeez just creating viable markets for our products with people can afford them would be worth it.
Wealth is not a zero sum game.
Forget about figuring about who gets what piece of the pie, let’s make the
sucker bigger.
I have to run but we can pick this up tomorrow if you want.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 18, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

Boondocks,
What, exactly, is your point?
“sorry, the US can’t sell energy technology to you because you are trying to develop your country to bring your citizens up out of grinding poverty”?
It’s a truism that only developed countries can afford environmental restrictions on themselves. The rest of the world is just trying to get to the point where they can afford to self regulate.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Hassel…trying to figure out where you’re going with the stats. How exactly do we make poor people richer, unless its through free market enterprise?
Which party generally wants to rein in capitalism, and tax it to the fullest extent possible?

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

“Let’s see, where is Spain?”
McSame: Just below Brazil and next to India, lmao.

Posted by: Joe B | September 18, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

*scratches head*
Palin said the other day that we need more regulation so that we can get government out of the way of business.
I think. I’m not entirely sure because it makes no sense.

Posted by: johnTX v1 | September 18, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

“How exactly do we make poor people richer, unless its through free market enterprise?”
Well sir, it seems like free market capitalist China is beating the crap out of us right now.
Fact: during the last 8 years middle class income has gone down not up.

Posted by: Joe B | September 18, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm

hippie_chucker people like you should remember thanks to the republicans this outsourcing problem has widened so much that trickle down mostly also goes to places like china india to a worker who works for less than half of what american worker is paid that trickle down in the end comes back to their bank accounts in cayman islands with amazing profits so trickle down returns back to you for profit tell me where is the american worker here, obama probably nails it to kee our jobs that wont be outsourced whereas McCain does’nt have a plan and says nothing is better than free market.

Posted by: reg | September 18, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

“Well sir, it seems like free market capitalist China is beating the crap out of us right now.
Fact: during the last 8 years middle class income has gone down not up.”
And…your point is…that capitalism has boom/bust cycles? You’d be right…
Perhaps you would have preferred to live in pre-capitalist China, without a car, or electricity? Not sure what your point is.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

Barack Obama:”Thank you, Wall Street…Thank you, Wall Street…Thank you…Thank you. Now all I need is a delay in any troop withdrawal…Covered the Rabbis on their day…Covered Hollywood…Ah yes, it’s been a GOOD WEEK!!!”

Posted by: RL in Illinois | September 18, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

RL, you forgot the part about the article in GQ on how McCain wanted to stage a coup against the Iraqi government a few months after combat operations were finished because they weren’t moving fast enough for him.
A good week for Barack Obama indeed.

Posted by: johnTX v1 | September 18, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Reg.
If you owned a business that made textiles but all of a sudden you had to pay high union wages, and high taxes, and comply with an ever increasing set of rules from the EPA, OSHA, IRS, etc, and you had the opportunity to go somewhere else, would you do it?
Because thats exactly whats happened to the american textile industry. First, 100 years ago, it was in the Northeast, then it moved to the South, and now its mostly in China, and now its moving to Vietnam, where, guess what, its cheaper.
It sucks, and an uncle lost his job in textiles in NC after 30 years, but that’s life. Protectionism doesnt work, and Nafta has created more jobs, period, even though the local effects probably dont seem that way.
The only way to get business to stay is to provide a friendly business climate, with low taxes, etc, but Obama is hardly that candidate, by any stretch.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Don’t be messing with the good name of Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a man of sturdy integrity, honesty, courage, wisdom and outrageous sincerity for a politician. He’s read his 35 articles of presidential impeachment knowing that it would all get lost in committee just like the same initiative regarding the vice president. Wny did he do it? We got lied to and people got killed. Many of ours and many more of theirs. We got lied to criminals who knew what they were doing. Why is it stuck in committee? God knows.

Posted by: Gaias Child | September 18, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Good lord I’m watching this Palin interview and she’s just all over the place. I’m having trouble following her answers and how they relate to the question.
And the questions just seem to be rehashes of the other interview and “how do you feel” questions. Hannity is pitching those softballs low and slow.

Posted by: johnTX v1 | September 18, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Heard Bill Clinton today saying Hillary’s economic solution she gave was “the best I have heard to date”. And “John McCain is a great man.”
We heard you loud and clear Mr President. Hillary received more votes than Obama and only superdelegates made Obama the selection
Us “folks”…as Michelle calls us are voting:
McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

Posted by: David | September 18, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Joe,
so you’re on board with high taxes, and excessive oversight as the ticket to keeping businesses here?
Instead of insulting me, why not provide your argument for creating jobs.
I’ve provided mine.

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

As far as I can tell, Hannity’s interview with Sarah Palin is about her interview with Charlie Gibson.

Posted by: johnTX v1 | September 18, 2008, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Once again Obama throws pot shots from the peanut gallery. Is this what he would propose to do as President–refuse to take a position on monumental issues while mocking others? This guy is really pathetic.

Posted by: NJH | September 18, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

NEWS FLASH
SPAIN IS NOW IN LATIN AMERICA. NOT EUROPE.

Posted by: Omentum | September 18, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

It’s like Jake said in his article, obama hasn’t taken a stance either way. For one, that’s because he has no idea what to do. For two, he employs two of the culprits of the crumble on his staff. For three, he’s afraid to make a decision because he probably feels it is above his pay grade. For four, it a lot safer and easier to let someone else go out on a limb and ridicule them to make himself look good if the decision was not favored by his believers. For five, obama has no experience at risk; he stays safe on all issues; waits for the countries reaction and then uses that to play the people. What a fake!

Posted by: M/P 08 | September 18, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

OBAMA…… You are more effective on offense.
Keep kicking his dusty musty crusty rusty …

Posted by: Omentum | September 18, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

good job john keep up the good work go mccain

Posted by: bill redington | September 18, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

When talk arises about concentrations of wealth, the silly classes often resort to talk about government breaking into bedrooms to confiscate wealth, or about how Democrats want to guarantee equality while Republicans want to guarantee equality of opportunity. How silly. And sophomoric.
We don’t have to redistribute wealth downward to create a more equitable economy–and one that actually works. We just have to stop redistributing wealth upward–which is what Republican policies have traditionally done. Even C students in freshman economic policy classes understand that simple idea.
Republican policies in the 1920′s helped concentrate wealth upward, which produced plenty of money for the expansion of production but not enough at the bottom to consume all that was being produced. Because people couldn’t really afford to buy, the policies of the day offered them easy credit. The economy boomed–for awhile. But eventually most people were so deeply in debt that they couldn’t afford to make their payments on their cars, refrigerators, radio, houses, and other things they bought. Sales began to slow as early as 1927, and eventually collapsed.
We are currently in the late stages of a similar cycle of growing concentrations of wealth that began with the Reagan administration, was slowed by the Clinton administration, but has gone full speed off the cliff during the last eight year.
Trickle-down economics simply does not work. A completely unfettered market economy doesn’t work either anymore than does a society of no laws (why is it that Republicans want to stop regulating business and increase regulation of what I do in my bedroom?).
One of the two major presidential candidates has argued that while we can depend on free markets to solve many of the economic problems we face, we can’t depend on them to solve all of the problems. We have to have some regulations–and most wise business people (like Warren Buffet) recognize that simple fact. We also have to have wise progressive tax policies that do not put most of the burden on the 96 percent of the population that does most of the work but gets the fewest benefits. That candidate is Barack Hussein Obama.
Go BHO!
Ohio Kid

Posted by: OhioKid | September 18, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

Omentum,
From the original interviewer, who started the interview talking about Latin America:
“Pressed on why McCain would keep seguing into a discussion of Latin America if he knew who she was talking about, Cuello said: “I think because I was talking with him before about Latin America.”
He’s trying to steer her back to the question at hand, not asserting what youre saying.More at your TPM website
Obama has so many “gaffes” like this they really cancel out, I think- 10,000 dead from tornados in the midwest, 57 states, etc. etc…

Posted by: hippie_chucker | September 18, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

They called John Kerry a flip flopper.
Mccain gets up in the morning, talks to steve schmidt and asks “who am I supposed to be today?”

Posted by: bill redington | September 18, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Maybe on Friday McCain will want to attack Cox, and fire Spain…
Or was it a strong economy, or a fundamental worker…
John take a nap, and refocus

Posted by: Meds need adjusting | September 18, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

“so you’re on board with high taxes, and excessive oversight as the ticket to keeping businesses here?”
No, I’m in favor of taxing the rich like throughout most of history of the US. It wasn’t until Reagan and his trickle down BS that this country began to get in debt. During the biggest boom in US economic history, the 1950′s, the top tax bracket was around 80%. The argument that low taxes promote the economy is historically false, which you would know if you educated yourself instead of repeating other people’s cliches.
I am in favor of oversight also called regulation, to ensure greed does not trump fiscal discipline. The fact that you load your question with the word “excessive” shows you are already predisposed to believe any regulation is excessive. Regulation makes sense as the current crisis clearly demonstrates. To borrow a thought from someone else: “How do you stop a company from dumping poisons in a river that goes behind your kid’s school?” You legislate such dumping to be illegal. It is called LAW AND ORDER. The real thing, not just right wing propaganda against dissent.
Let me ask you: are you in favor of the Fed bailing out all these financial companies during the last few weeks? That’s the result of deregulation.
“Instead of insulting me, why not provide your argument for creating jobs.
I’ve provided mine.”
First, I do not insult you. I insult what you write here. So stop being so self-important. Second, if you want to make something happen you need to target the problem. You need to understand what the problem is, understand what tools you have at your disposal, be able to come up with a plan, and finally be able to steadfastly execute that plan. Unlike you, I am not going to pretend here I am some economic expert that has the answers to all our problems. But I could envision something along the lines of tax incentives for companies that actually create jobs in the country, for starters. Your plan: “provide a friendly business climate, with low taxes, etc” is meaningless gibberish.

Posted by: Joe B | September 18, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Can we please get a story regarding McCain’s new selection to head up his Minority Outreach program: George “Macaca” Allen?
Now that’s leadership….I can laugh at!

Posted by: tooeasywaytooeasy | September 18, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

tooeasywaytooeasy, you are kidding right?

Posted by: johnTX v1 | September 18, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

Interview with Mr. America community organizer:
- Sen. Obama, what do you think about our troops in Irak? (he stammers and searchs for teleprompter) … CHANGE
- what do you think about Russian attitude in Georgia? (he stammers and searchs for teleprompter) … CHANGE
- What do you think about the crisis of Wall Street? (he stammers and searchs for teleprompter) … CHANGE
- What do you think about our dependency on foreign oil? (he stammers and searchs for teleprompter) … CHANGE
- What do you think of the education system? (he stammers and searchs for teleprompter) … CHANGE
Give Mr. America community organizer some new batteries so he can repeat ´CHANGE´like a parrot until the end of the campaign.

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 18, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

What’s most disturbing about Senator Obama’s “get tough” diatribe is that he doesn’t say anything about what he has done for the Country regarding economic reform. For someone who campaigned as above partisan politics (there is no red states, there are no blue states, etc.), he now comes across as a partisan hack.

Posted by: Captain America | September 18, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Why didn’t the Republicans pick Mitt Romney as VP? I mean, he knew economics.

Posted by: johnTX v1 | September 18, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Concerned: “result of liberal social engineering”
Utter MooseSh!t.
Democrats nor clients did force the banks to sell “subprime mortgages” to people with poor credit ratings and adjustable rate mortgages (ARM) to people who treated their house as an ATM. Mortgage lenders did ann promoted them. They failed to check whether the people would be able to pay their mortgages and they failed to warn people in the event house prices would stall are fall. Mortgage lenders thought they could take this risk because house prices ‘always went up’.
Democrats nor clients did not force the banks to the financial engineering called securitization: many mortgage lenders had passed the rights to the mortgage payments and related credit/default risk to third-party investors via mortgage-backed securities (MBS) and collateralized debt obligations (CDO)) by cutting the risky mortgages with good morgages.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 18, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

“No, it’s the result of liberal social engineering. It’s the result of government requiring mortgage quotas based upon race and not upon qualification.”
Concerned, I think you should be less concerned and more informed. The real problem is the derivatives market and the levels of margin they’ve accrued. Mortgages were packaged in various derivative instruments and valued at 30-60 times their value. Thus, a relatively small glitch in the housing market has been amplified 30-60 times.
As far as mortgage quotas based on race, could you please post a URL (or two) that points to a factual description of these quotas? I think you will find there were no such quotas.

Posted by: Joe B | September 18, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

McCain’s mantra used to be:
“I’d rather lose an election than lose a war”.
Now it seems more like:
“I’d rather sell my soul than lose an election.”

Posted by: Joe B | September 18, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Concerned: You might want to learn what discrimination actually means: it means that people who are equal in qualifications are treated differently based on other criteria.
That manual clearly states that subprimes and ARM’s already existed but that groups of people were left out for other reasons not related to the qualifications.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 18, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

No Dave. Obama did not say that.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 18, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

Obama’s democrat’s broke into Palin’s E-mail account.
Palin Email Hacker is Son of Democrat Tennessee State Senator
Bristol Palin may be pregnant out of wedlock, but at least she’s not going to jail.
David Kernell, a college student has been positively identified as the perp who hacked Sarah Palin’s Yahoo account.
State Rep. Mike Kernell said today that he was aware of Internet rumors about his son being the subject of speculation that he accessed the personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
Asked whether he or his son, a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville, had been contacted by authorities investigating the break-in of Palin’s account, he responded:
“Me, no.”
As far as his 20-year-old son, David, he said: “I can’t say. That doesn’t mean he has or hasn’t (been contacted by investigators.”
Kernell, D-Memphis, cited the father-son relationship.
He said he had talked to his son today, but that he talks to his son regularly.
He declined further comment.

Posted by: wired | September 18, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

“Obama has no plans to extend the Bush tax cuts beyond their expiration date”
Don’t know what’s unclear about that.

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 18, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Be glad it wasn’t Putin who hacked Palin’s e-mail account.
That would have been funny. Palin yelling at Putin from her Alaskan Island in the Bering Street: “Yooohooooo, I can SEEEEE you”.
Putin yelling back: “Yooooohooooo, I’ve read your EEEEEE-mail”

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 18, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

So, Concerned. Where is your proof that it was ‘liberal social engineering’ that created subprime mortgages and ARM’s? So far, you have only managed to show us how mortgage lenders should apply the same criteria to every citizen AFTER these mortgages and secularization were devised by mortgage lenders and investors.
You are blaming Democrats for spreading the victims amongst majorities and minorties. You wanted the victims to be only amongst white americans only?

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | September 18, 2008, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

willem
when will you obamasnots get the message that the bering straight thing is not funny…Obama was asked to be more substantive and hes become more silly

Posted by: staniam | September 18, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

So what is this about them finding the culprit who hacked Sarah Palin’s email?

Posted by: Samantha | September 18, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Obama is really just kicking McCain’s here… McCain has gotten in over his head the last 4 days with his gaffes and position changes, and Obama is not going to let up on him.
Bring on the debates.

Posted by: DHC | September 18, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

McCain’s going to be the keynoter at Bill Clinton’s Global Initiative :)

Posted by: John | September 18, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

DHC
… we will not let you forget who is the mainstream of the democratic party on election day… Obama will lose!

Posted by: staniam | September 18, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

Why isn’t the media talking about the legislation that Mccain sponsored in 2005 that would have gotten Freddie and Fannie under control? And how does Obama explain why he is the number #2 guy(over a 10 year period) in campaign contributions from Freddie and Fannie?
Is ABC going to cover the election? Or are ya’ll trying to promote Obama like NBC does?

Posted by: Jackie | September 18, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Obama things he kiked out the Clinton wing of the Democratic party but he just made them angry… did you see Hillarys senate speech on the financial crisis thats the kind of candidate that we needed for the presidency

Posted by: staniam | September 18, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Jackie
I agree they have let Obama get away without explaining anything and its because he shares the same Ivy legue education as themsomethign snooty and elite about it and Im a democrat… I dont understand why this is happening

Posted by: staniam | September 18, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

What a bunch of baloney. McCain has spent his entire career fighting regulation and voting for deregulation. He is whining about the “Fat Cats” when he is one of the fattest cats around and can’t even remember how many houses he owns. Did he say that from his family plane or from one of his six or seven houses? George Bush and his Republican friends started their adminstration with no budget deficit and have sold our country to the Chinese and run the deficit into the trillions. Now the Republicans are making the Federal Treasury into the biggest corporate welfare program on the planet – the only catch is that we don’t have any money so we have to borrow more money from China to bail out a bunch of rich Republicans who didn’t understand the word leverage and whose Daddys have always fixed everything for them – just like George Bush. Except that his daddy can’t fix it this time and we are the ones who are going to have to pay. Wouldn’t that trillion have been nice for education? Or for health care? Oh, I forgot. We can’t afford that. So where exactly did this money come from? Oh, that’s right. Straight from Beijing.

Posted by: mara | September 19, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

“The son of Democratic state representative Mike Kernell is reportedly a suspect in the hacking of the personal e-mail account of Alaska’s Gov. Sarah Palin, Republican vice presidential candidate”
Who cares? What is your point? If true, snot-nosed little brats can happen to any family. Look at Bush.

Posted by: Teresa | September 19, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Thankfully, an adult is in charge in LA now.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Sep 19, 2008 12:22:27 AM
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Be careful. Hollywood types think LA may refer to Los Angeles, CA.

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 19, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

teresa
next week something controversial will come out about Obama and you will be forced to defend that

Posted by: staniam | September 19, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Thank you, Concerned. I agree. The world would be a perfect Eden if not for the Democrats. Thank God for sending his Emissary, our current President, a proud Republican.

Posted by: Teresa | September 19, 2008, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Staniam, you are funny! I love astrology and Tarot cards. Are you a fortune teller? Love to meet you…

Posted by: Teresa | September 19, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

No Dave, they just delete all posts with links, lmao

Posted by: Bluff | September 19, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Huh? Democrats and Progressivism? Progressivism is a Republican idea, I think. What do you mean? I’m confused.

Posted by: Teresa | September 19, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

In the 30′s ‘Progressive’ was a code word for ‘Communist’. Like everything else in this country it has shifted to the extreme right, so now it just means ‘Regulatory Responsibility’.

Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 19, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am

Actually, Leonard, Progressivism is related to the Progressive Party, founded in 1912 by Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican. The party platform described its mission as:
“To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day”
Of course, it would be no surprise that by 1930 this concept was associated then with Communism. Anything to keep the status quo and the money flowing to the coffers. Nothing has changed it seems, in a hundred years.

Posted by: George | September 19, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am

- Hitler wanted to change Germany and ruined his country.
- Mussolini wanted to change Italy and ruined his country.
- Stalin wanted to change Russia and ruined his country.
- Fidel Castro wanted to change Cuba and ruined his country.
All these totalitarian demagogues use a flowery speech to draw people. Behind it there´s nothing or even worse than nothing.
Obama wants to change America and he will lead us to ruin and disaster. I hope God protects us!

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 19, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am

McCAIN CAMPAIGN ATTEMPTS TO COVER UP PALIN’S TROOPERGATE SCANDAL!!!
Didn’t Palin learn the lessons of Watergate? The break-in to Democtatic Party headquarters by the NIXON Campaign to look at a few papers was really nothing…
It was the ensuing COVER-UP that killed Nixon! Since Palin is clearly a student and understudy of Nixon, she and McCain should both know that…
Everyone in America knows a cover-up when they see one now! The only thing that is “tainted” about that bi-partisan investigation is PALIN!!!
Something smells fishy (or Moosey) here………..
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!
Republicans are cheats, LIARS and crooks!! Always have been, always will be!! The last honest Republican was Abraham Lincoln…

Posted by: Davis | September 19, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

“Republicans are cheats, LIARS and crooks!! ” and bullies!! Their bottom line: vote republican or else, something bad gonna happen to you. Of course, they are gonna try and make sure something bad does happen to you. Oh wait, they just did that.

Posted by: George | September 19, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am

The last honest democrat was … ???sorry, I can´t remember anyone

Posted by: Stephen from Indiana | September 19, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am

Breaking News!
“People who startle easily in response to threatening images or loud sounds seem to have a biological predisposition to adopt conservative political positions on many hot-button issues, according to unusual new research published yesterday.”
Now, that explains everything. They are just scared of everything and want to make everyone else scared too! Boo! hahaha

Posted by: George | September 19, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am

People tend to forget JFK as a good President, and Carter had deal with Nixons I am not a crook scandel that started an economic downfall. Nixons Health Care hurt everybody, but the top 5%. Now Obama is ready to help the Majority of Americans.
War for Profit vote McCain.
Peace and stability for America vote Obama.

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am

Were Hannity’s ‘gotcha’ questions, planned or a scripted oversight?
1)”PALIN: Didn’t see them but I hear that they’re all over the place and I’m just hoping that they’re going spend a lot of money in our local communities and bolster the economy up there.
HANNITY: So you’re hoping that the economy will…
PALIN: Absolutely.
She knew the question before she answered.
2)HANNITY: Why do we need to win in Iraq? Just get right to the bottom line. Why is losing not an option?
PALIN: Losing is not — retreat is not an option. Retreat is defeat in Iraq. Al Qaeda, they’re acknowledging even, along with General Petraeus, that Iraq is the central front on the War on Terror and the violent Islamic extremists who hate America would love that stronghold to be built in Iraq.
They forgot General Petraeus, once stated the extremists are in Afganistan and no longer in Iraq. General Petraeus says the surge worked, but too many American soldiers, in the field speak out against the surge. Now the solderiers are not aloud to speak out against the war, without charges being pressed against them. When your sons and daughters come home ask them for all they have seen. Not just heard from commanders.
3)HANNITY: What countries today pose the most danger, in your view, to America?
PALIN: Any country that is going to house violent Islamic terrorists. We have to keep our eye, of course, on Iran. We’ve got to keep our eye on some of the ongoing activities in Russia, also. North Korea under the leadership of Kim Jong Il — certainly there is a lot of concern there.
They both ignore the trouble already, in Americans streets with ‘gangland terrorists’. Look at Alaska.
4)HANNITY: What do you view — and I know this came up in your interview with Charlie Gibson, as it relates to the Bush Doctrine — what do you view as the Bush Doctrine and what do you view as America’s role in the world? What is our role as a country, as it relates to national security?
PALIN: That’s a great question and being an optimist I see our role in the world as one of — being a force for good and one of being the leader of the world when it comes to the values that — it seems that just humankind embraces the values that encompass life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And that’s not just in America, that is in our world.
And America is in a position, because we care for so many people, to be able to lead and to be able to have a strong diplomacy and a strong military. Also at the same time to defend not only our freedoms but, to help these rising, smaller democratic countries that are just — you know, they’re putting themselves on the map right now, and they’re going to be looking to America as that leader. We being used as a force for good is how I see our country.
Why didn’t she give this statement to Mr. Gibson? Why did she have to wait, to be scripted?
5)HANNITY even askes about her version of ‘troopergate’ , she gives several versions. She invites an inspection into the contoversy, but now wants to postpone the investigation. What happenned to ‘Transparency’. I guess it doesn’t include her…

Posted by: historyforgotten | September 19, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am

Has anyone noticed how Obama avoided mentioning a solution to AIG at all. He waited until after McCain made a statement saw what the Fed’s did with the bail out then attacked McCain on his stand and called it flip flopping. McCain’s right voting present is not something a President can do.
Well Pelosi and her gang got called to a meeting with the Treasury Secretary last night. She did not call the meeting the Treasury Secretary did and I would guess Pelosi and her crew will be eating some items in the proposal that is finally agreed on that she and Obama will not like. After all when as Reid stated “no one knows what to do” and Nancy said we will just take a vacation until after November 4th and Obama would make no statement what so ever about what he would do well is that what you want from a leader.
After all the bail outs are not what anyone would like in a perfect world but some one had to stop the boat from sinking and at least McCain recognized that fact. What comes out of the meeting last night will most likely be similar to what McCain proposed.
Let’s see when Obama changes his position on something because of new information it is permissible because a leader needs to be flexible and when McCain does it’s flip flopping. Ya’ll are to to funny.

Posted by: Jace | September 19, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am

This whole artical is based upon what Obama wishes were true. McCain warned and introduced legislation in 2006. Obama’s worst crisis since depression. I guess he doesn’t realize the importance of WORDS. John McCain was correct in his statement that the fundamentals are strong unless Barney Frank, Reid and Pelosi. Obama yesterday stressed the importance of remaining claim, but as usual he is a little slow on the uptake. I believe that he and Biden should write checks for the hundreds of thousands of dollars they received from Fannie & Freddie before they look to the taxpayer. Unlike Obama when I say taxpayer, I am talking about the 60% that actually pay taxes.

Posted by: ubu2008 | September 19, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am

Since Obama wouldn’t even take a stand on the AIG bailout, it’s disingenuous for him to criticize McCain for his view.
McCain is a leader. Obama is a follower.

Posted by: marylou | September 19, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

Except blame, blame, blame, what can Obama offer?
Nothing!!!

Posted by: beth | September 19, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Obama sits around and waits to see what everybody else has to say before he makes up his mind about anything….
Remember in the debates: “Well, I have to go along with Hillary on that one….and that one…..and that one….and that one………, etc, etc.”
Never a thought for himself, but yet thinks he’s qualified to run the free world..
And now the son of a DEMOCRATIC legislator from Tennessee has been identified as the criminal who hacked Palin’s personal email account.
We new all along it was going to be some Democrat somewhere who did this….

Posted by: Lee | September 19, 2008, 8:46 am 8:46 am

Who is the one following Bush’s disastrous policies?
McCain follows whichever stand looks more politically viable at the moment, judging from his amazing flip-flopping:
No bail out! Bail out! Oh, DON’T bail out! Bail out!…
Shows he didn’t put thought into it, otherwise he would’ve been able to explain his rationale.

Posted by: Grey Matter | September 19, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

And Sen. Obama can’t decide whether he is the UNITER or the DIVIDER.
Sen. Obama has intentionally lied about statements by Rush Limbaugh on illegal immigration–taken them completely out of context–in a new political ad (en Espanol) in order to exploit and even inflame racial tensions in the Hispanic community for political gain.
Sen. Obama is absolutely dispicable! The ad quotes Rush Limbaugh as saying “…MEXICANOS ESTUPIDOS Y NO CALIFICADOS.” (“…Mexicans are stupid and unqualified.”) and “CIERRA TU BOCA O LARGATE!” (“Shut your mouth our get out!”).
Google, Limbaugh on Obama Ad, and read about it yourself.

Posted by: James Danley | September 19, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

“It wasn’t that long ago that the faux outrage du jour was at of the use of “Democrat Party” instead of “Democratic Party”.”
Democrat party is right winger favorite especially freepers.
Guess Concerned isn’t an independent as he claims.
Yes shocking that concerned would lie about such a thing.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 19, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

“McCain warned and introduced legislation in 2006″
McCain cosponsored a bill in 2005 that was reintroduced in 2006.
Obama authored a bill that was intro in 2006 and re intro’d in 2007.
Neither bill went anywhere in the Senate.

Posted by: Ryan C | September 19, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am

The only connection I see between Kucinich and Mc Cain is that both have wives young enough to be their daughters. Dennis is the clear winner.

Posted by: ricky | September 19, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am

This is Obama the hypocrite playing the same distorted sound-bite sort of politics he loves to decry. His promise to usher in a new kind of politics is a farce. He is more of the same, only with less experience. The Washington Post nailed him for it this morning.

Posted by: NJH | September 19, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

LOL, Half the time I get the Feeling Mccain doesnt even know his own freaking name! He lies so much that even he doesnt know what is truth anymore! Yeah, We really need this idiot leading us for the next four years! LOL
Jessup

Posted by: Jessup Sommers | September 19, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

So proud of you Senator Obama, stay on the issues, respond forcefully, speak the truth. We support you.
Yes we can!
Obama Biden 2008

Posted by: voter in PA | September 19, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Yeah right…and Obama can’t decide if he’s Kennedy or Martin Luther King!

Posted by: Ed | September 19, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

Starting to look like Obama is desperate enough to use racial tensions to win votes.
He can’t win based on his record or his character–so he uses his race again.
Biden saying we should vote for him because he is black. The proObama media suggesting he isn’t far ahead in the polls because America is racist.
Others threatening race wars if he loses.
BO running ads to inflame Hispanics.
Quite hypocritical considering it is Obama that willingly sat in a racist church for 20 years.

Posted by: sally | September 19, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Obama based his campaign on hope–yet he tells voters to get in the face of neighbors if they disagree with him.
He says he transcends race–but sits back as his ads and surrogates inflame racial tensions.
Does he actually think this will get more whites to vote for him?
Who is he talking to–the 95% of AA that are voting for him. The hispanics who are smart enough to see he is using them?

Posted by: riley | September 19, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Why doesn’t Obama call the 90% of AA voting for him racist–since they won’t vote for a white candidate?
Kind of hard to believe all 90% actually approve of BO’s policies. I bet over 50% don’t like him, and don’t like that he constantly panders to whites.
So how many are voting for him just because he is black?

Posted by: harry | September 19, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Ryan, you know that McCain wasn’t about blanket deregulation…read Tapper’s other post on this…WP editorial…

Posted by: Wade | September 19, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

It’s interesting how the race card is being mentioned. Good let’s get real people will not vote for BO simply because he is 50% AA. It’s unfortunate that the hearts of such individuals are so hardened and blind to anyone but themselves. I happen to be one of the 90% AA that is voting for Obama not because he’s black but because I agree with his policies not all but most. And FYI AA have been voting for white candidates in case you haven’t notice since there has been a president in office and we have had the right to vote. One more thing if I did decide to vote for BO because he’s black it’s my choice many WA have been voting that way for years.

Posted by: Debra | September 19, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Obama is right. McCain doesn’t know who he is. Up until securing the nomination the conservative base was denouncing him as “liberal”. And their reaction to him was tepid until Palin was provided as a gift to rally them. Conservatives never liked McCain. And now McCain is trying to take a staunch conservative line. Problem is it conflicts with his more pragmatic view of the world. So, we see the split personality of McCain…

Posted by: indy_voter | September 19, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Harry wrote, “Why doesn’t Obama call the 90% of AA voting for him racist–since they won’t vote for a white candidate?
Kind of hard to believe all 90% actually approve of BO’s policies. I bet over 50% don’t like him, and don’t like that he constantly panders to whites.
So how many are voting for him just because he is black?”
Harry, Harry, what the hell are you talking about? In case you were in shell and have just come out, let me give a piece of information: African Americans have voted for white democrats in huge numbers for a long time. Now if someone was talking about the primary, I would understand. Then again, African Americans have always voted for white candidates. I particularly do not see a problem with people having the first opportunity to vote for someone like them and jump on it.

Posted by: D | September 19, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Debra wrote: “It’s interesting how the race card is being mentioned. Good let’s get real people will not vote for BO simply because he is 50% AA.”
What is really interesting–make that OUTRAGEOUS–is that two Obama surrogates, Bob Hagan of Youngstown, OH, and Tom Letson of Warren, OH, claim that people in Ohio are NOT voting for Obama BECAUSE he is black. In essence they are saying not voting for Obama means you are racist. Certainly there may be some racists who won’t vote for Obama, but there are tens of millions of voters, like myself, who are NOT racist but will not vote for Sen. Obama because we totally disagree with his socialistic ideology.

Posted by: James Danley | September 19, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

re:Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 19, 2008 11:13:27 AM
“McCain warned and introduced legislation in 2006″
McCain cosponsored a bill in 2005 that was reintroduced in 2006.
Obama authored a bill that was intro in 2006 and re intro’d in 2007.
Neither bill went anywhere
——————————
Weren’t both of these and other reform bills blocked by Chris Dodd (Dem), Barney Frank (Dem) and other Dems?

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 19, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

re:Posted by: Ryan C | Sep 19, 2008 11:13:27 AM
“McCain warned and introduced legislation in 2006″
McCain cosponsored a bill in 2005 that was reintroduced in 2006.
Obama authored a bill that was intro in 2006 and re intro’d in 2007.
Neither bill went anywhere
—————————-
Why wasn’t Obama able to work with other Dems to get his bill passed?

Posted by: Dave in lv | September 19, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

I don’t have any problem in characterizing McCain .
He is a Republican! According to his own campaign, Republicans are corrupt and incompetent.
Obviously he has inside information!

Posted by: foreclosure | September 20, 2008, 4:45 am 4:45 am

John McCain and Sarah Palin want to be elected like Republicans but they are trying to avoid to discuss issues critical for the American families. And portraying themselves like reformers because they are embarrassed of the last 8 years of the Republicans –Bush Administration.
Is the Republican Party in the need of urgent reform because is out of touch with the everyday life of the American people

Posted by: foreclosure | September 20, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am

Was hilarious to watch the face of Cindy McCain, when Sen., McCain on his speech talks about the big salaries of the CEO’s, and how greedy they are!

Posted by: foreclosure | September 20, 2008, 5:02 am 5:02 am

What the ostrich and the Republicans have in common.Let me guess
Both hide their head on the sand and pretend everything is fine
An ostrich bury its head in the sand and pretend everything is fine
Republicans do the same and follow McCain
America and the world is suffering with the blunders of Bush Administration
The economy have crumple and the prosperity of many people are under risk not only in America but also worldwide.
John McCain and Sarah Palin promise of change: Is a change to Nowhere
This election is not only about some bridge in Alaska it is about all the bridges and roads in all the o United States because they are all crying out for repairs and maintenance. This is because for the last 8 years the Bush and the Republicans have spent enormous amounts of dollars to build up Iraq and they have forgotten about the needs of their own country.

Posted by: foreclosure | September 20, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am

One must feel rather badly for Sen.McCain
Being such a maverick in a conformist party,lacking support from the true believers, it must be pure torture for him to attempt to run on any record he had made. After all,you cannot lay with pigs your entire career and expect to come out clean. I know he is writhing, in pain, twisting from side to side, right and left…. Trying this and that to ease his pain of impending loss. I know how extreme pain can make reality seem to be anything that might mitigate it… This psychic distress may even make ill formed decisions seem plausible
… that explains Sarah P. being selected. Daily I cannot help but feel badly for him that his campaign has hit bottom so hard. The level of lies and distortions is incredible. Standing on the stages and podiums, with the stance and posture of an albino T-Rex, I wonder if John is becoming extinct too?
Twisting and turning from lie to fabrication,over and over , I see the agony, and hope on Nov. 4 we can cause his pain to cease…

Posted by: Curtis | September 20, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

Lets see alot of you wanted change back in 2006 so you voted the dems back in control of both houses, how has that worked out? Oh I forgot you blame Bush for all the problems currently facing the country even though the president DOESN’T MAKE LAW, Congress and the Senate do and who is controlling both of them. I do agree with the DEMS on one area, we do need change, keep the GOP in the white house and vote the GOP BACK INTO power in both houses.

Posted by: Al | September 20, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Curtis, I respect your opinion but I beg to differ with you, picking Palin was a brilliant move, it showed just how much of a maverick McCain is, showed how serious he is about changing D.C. and really made the Dems scramble. Palin will help win some women votes, has the backing of the NRA, is pro life, is for drilling in Alaska and is a bit of a maverick herself. The “Mainstream” D.C. politician has had their time and it is obvious they cannot or willnot change so I have changed my vote to the Maverick McCain.

Posted by: Al | September 20, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Curtis: I don’t believe any poliician lies with pigs. Your picking up too much of Obama’s bad language. And for a college graduate he isn’t that smart. He is getting a lot of help from former president Clinton’s advisor’s and believe me he needs it. You can take bets on it Biden will be running the country behind the scenes if Obama is elected. Besides that, this country could go into a 1929 depression. Obama talks about change, the words he took from the book of RFK speeches. He also used his speeches and added a few words of his own. Obama cannot do anything on his own without help. For a college graduate what happened?

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

foreclosure: What needs are you talking about. If your talking about the economy what’s wrong with the economy? People are stopping at gas stations all day long, shooping for food with baskets filled to the top. Foreclosures are the fault of the buyer’s and banks. Banks should not have given loans to people buying a condo or house with no money down or only 5% down. The down payment should be 30 to 35%. Banks are the cause of their own wrong decisions and the same with the buyer’s. They wanted to live like a rich person with a beer pocket. Well, now they have to rent.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

foreclosure: And don’t you wish you just had 10% of McCain and Cindy’s money? And they have it like the Clinton’s do. And its all for them, nothing for you.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Jess: Look at me I am a democrat voting for McCain and Palin. I certainly am not going to vote for a candidate that doesn’t have the brains to run this country. But he has Biden to do that job behind the scenes. If Obama is elected he will enjoy the white house along with Ayers, Farrakhan, Wright, Father P and Rezko when he’s out of jail.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Al: And Obama copied the word change from the speech of Robert Kennedy. Obama only knows the change in his pocket or how to change his clothes. There are no changes he knows how to make without extensive help. Of course maybe Ayers the professor who bombed here three times and give him some advice. And there is Wright always preaching about America and white people.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

foreclosure: I hope McCain is a republican because I am a democrat voting for him. Why would I vote for Osama(Obama)Hussein? He has the name of a terrorist. What was his father and mother thinking? Well, his mother never married a white man so you can’t expect him to have a white man’s name. He is half Kenyan and that country is in a turmoil all the time. If Obama was raised there he would want to run that country just like he wants to run this one. But that’s too bad. It isn’t going to happen.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

James Danley: I hate to differ with the people in Ohio but Obama is not black or white will never be either because he is the offspring of a black/white marriage. Find it on the internet. I have known that for years. However, the blacks resent using that name. They refer to him as black and so do many white people. That’s too bad because he isn’t.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

McCain is right. Obama thinks of solutions for himself not the country. He is all for himself and he never was for this country. Obama read so many books on MLK it went to his head. Now, he wants to make the same history by using the American people for his own benefit. And the news just stated that Obama had deals with Johnson whom he wanted to be his VP at one time. Can you imagine two crooks in the white house?

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

linda n carolina. If McCain is punch drunk you must be drinking the same booze. And I am sure all this generation of college students are drugging and boozing every night. Are you one of them? The educated like the news media said. Don’t make me laugh. Do you know how many have to drop out because they are too dumb to master the course. That’s what drugs and booze do to you. Obama is an example. Just listen to him.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

riley: Obama will use anyone he can to win the presidency. He so desperate to make history like MLK he would doublecross anyone to get it. He did it to the woman running against him for the senate and she never campaigned again. He is the worst and most underhanded candidate that ever ran for the presidenty. Nancy and Obama went behind the scenes to pressure the superdelegates to vote for Obama so Hillary wouldn’t become the nominee.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 21, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Mariann,obviously you are an angry white female who is extremely misinformed. You have no idea what the black population thinks of Obama but we do know what we think of you and your bitter talk. Your reasons for voting for McCain and Palin are yours and yours alone–thank God! But to try and defame Obama by stating the falseness of him being a muslim or the foul play on his name and all your other crazy accusations is reflective of your hardened heart–something that you will have to deal with way pass this election. Stick to the facts not to the outrageous accusations. The only person you are hurting is yourself. I can only say thank God you are not running for President.

Posted by: Debra | September 22, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

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