Obama on Biden’s Initial Opposition to AIG Bailout: ‘Joe Should Have Waited’
"What has been clear during this entire past ten days is John McCain has not had clarity and a grasp on the situation," Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told NBC’s Matt Lauer in an interview that ran this morning.
Lauer was talking about how Obama hit Sen. McCain, R-Ariz., for flip-flopping on the AIG bailout — saying he opposed it one day then announced he supported it the next day.
But, as Lauer pointed out, scarcely three minutes after McCain said he opposed the AIG bailout last week, "in an interview with Meredith Vieira, Joe Biden, your running mate was asked the exact same question: ‘should the federal government bail out AIG?’ And he said, ‘No, the federal government should not bail out AIG.’" (As we noted at the time.) "And I think that, in that situation," Obama said, "I think Joe should have waited, as well."
"But it’s the kind of thing that drives people crazy about politics," Lauer said. "It sounds like you were trying to score some political points against John McCain using his words, when your own running mate had used very similar words."
"No, hold on a second Matt," Obama said. "I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that somebody like John McCain who, for 26 years, has been an advocate for deregulation, for 26 years has said the market is king and then starts going out there suggesting somehow that he’s a populist who’s been railing against Wall Street and regulation — that’s what drives people crazy about politics."
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Posted by: t | September 23, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Double speak. You can’t trust a single word that comes out of Obama’s mouth.
Posted by: Kitty | September 23, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
No. it only drives Obama crazy.
Posted by: geevill | September 23, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
There is always the fine print Jake …
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.
- Doesn’t this remind of us of Iraq?
Now Arianna just came out with an article this morning that is insightful and many of us agree with her …
-Arianna Huffington: The Bailout Plan: Welcome to Economic Shock and Awe
Posted by: katherine | September 23, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
I’m beginning to feel like the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing with Obama/Biden, do they speak to each other, or they both just to busy campaigning for president?
Posted by: samhiguchi | September 23, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
oh, and what does the Princess of Alaska have to say about any of this? that’s right! she doesn’t dare talk to the press.
Posted by: sp | September 23, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Can’t wait until Obama does this on friday. The arrogant one can’t help himself.
Posted by: geevill | September 23, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Well, McCain and his running disagree on a lot of things. Is that bad or good? I don’t know…
Posted by: thetruth | September 23, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Senator Obama will never take a firm stand on anything. He tests the political waters before he decides how to comment on any issue before him. He still thinks he can vote present.
Posted by: kgdn54 | September 23, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Biden is an idiot. He should take notes from Obama. The question is, considering how folish Biden is, why did Obama pick him? This is a time for caution, not reckless chatter we get from the foolish likes of Biden and McCain.
Posted by: Kevin | September 23, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Obama, one of your top advisors is the former CEO of Fannie Mae..the NOW failed Fannie Mae..Do you think I would want to take financial advise from him..think not. Also how come 4 out of 6 of your top financial contributors are Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan & Citigroup. Sounds like obama is in bed with the failing financial institutions that all the middle class Americans get to pay for all their greed and wealth. I wonder why the news media hasn’t done their job on why these financial institutions have failed. Because the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 was repealed during the Clinton Admin. with approval from Dems, Greenspan, Robert Rubin (Goldman Sachs partner), Phil Graham, James Leach, Thomas Bliley, Sandy Weill. Along with the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) required banks to loan to areas including lower-income communities. Both of these Acts allowed sub-prime lending to go from a 65 billion in 1995 to 332 billion in 2003. Allowed Citi group to gobble up smaller banks, allowed directorship to serve of multi boards that one company owned, created a “Too Big to Fall” concept…meaning if the bank is too big financially then the gov’t won’t let it fail. These acts also allowed the banks to lower the percentage of cash that it kept on hand. Obama said “Well, no. I would not restore the Glass Steagall Act.” The repeal of the G-S Act has cause this country great deal of pain along with the greed of several CEO’s that should be held accountable for making loans in the amount of $300k to couples that make $60k a year, have 3 car pmts, and 40K in credit card debt. The concept of buy now and no payments until 2010 and the me, me me generation. What does our Congress do….go on vacation instead of dealing with the economy. They don’t have to worry about their IRA because when they retire they get their full salary from all the hard working Americans. I am not happy that the gov’t is bailing out these insitutions. Do we see any talk by congress or the news media to do an investigation???? NO because the investigation would show how many Dem’s and former Pres.Clinton were at fault for the repealing of this ACT. Obama has hired several of these individuals to help with his campaign… God Bless America
Posted by: camp50 | September 23, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
McCain has been proven to be ill-suited for the presidency — and he obviously can’t handle fiscal problems. I would prefer a president take a breath before making decisions — in other words — I like that Obama blinks. Its the smart thing to do.
Posted by: hang | September 23, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that’s worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and Nov. 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess. The Democrats killed the bill.
Posted by: susie | September 23, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
and what has Palin said besides lies from a que card?
Posted by: watching | September 23, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Biden says we shouldn’t bail out AIG and Obama says we need to get the facts first. No problem…both were asked their opinion and both gave their opinion.
Where is Bush-in-a-skirt Palin’s opinion…oh yeah, she has to check with the McCain camp (or her husband) to see what her opinion is, and the McCain camp is still trying to figure out how to bamboozle the American people into thinking that having the architect of the regulation meltdown as his prime financial advisor and being an advocate for deregulation for 26 years is a good thing for Americans. Loosing your life savings, your house, your job…it all makes you stronger…aint that right John (Bush) McCain.
Posted by: algwriter | September 23, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
“Senator Obama will never take a firm stand on anything. He tests the political waters before he decides how to comment on any issue before him. He still thinks he can vote present.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
A house divided cannot stand. Biden even found Obama ad terrible and then quickly turned around to say it is fine. How will this White House look like? A risk we cannot take. Oh there is rumor Biden will drop out on or about October 5 with Hillary coming on!
Posted by: Mark | September 23, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Dismiss Biden.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Do any of remember the Keating 5 scandal? Or did you conveniently forget about McCain’s involvement in that? It’s was one of the most costly bailouts we’ve had and McCain was involved. Fact. Look it up.
Posted by: will | September 23, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
A vote for mccain is a vote for four more years of the same failure as bush. mccain has backed bush’s proposals ninety-five percent of the time. Does palin know what doctrine means?
Posted by: sail | September 23, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Meanwhile, Obama’s hiding out for the rest of the week in “debate preparation”. Vote for Palin or vote for Nader — but a passive-aggressive candidate who can’t even maintain public solidarity with his own ditzy VP is no “leader”.
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
The entire McCain campaign has been handed over the the Bush election team. McCain is morphing into Bush III in front of our very eyes.
Bush/McCain No More Years!!
Posted by: thebob.bob | September 23, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Sometimes I think Obama’a campaign is in
total meltdown.
Posted by: JanNelson | September 23, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
I love Joe Biden. At least he’s out there answering questions, unlike the muppet Palen.
Posted by: Tungsten | September 23, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
camp 50 i believe the top economic advisor and strategist that lobby for fannie and freddie are actually in the mccain camp
not the obama camp
but i dont want to ruin you with a little thing like facts
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
In 2005 McCain, John Sununu, Elizabeth Dole and Chuck Hagel bucked the administration and called for regulation of the market! Speaking in defense of the bill in 2006 McCain said “If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”. Gee for someone who supposedly doesn’t have a grasp of the situation he seemed pretty prophetic aboutm it. Of course though the democrats and a few republicans wanted nothing to do with this.
What was obama doing during the same time? Singing “We are family” with Fannie Mae, raking in nearly as much money as the chairmain of the housing committee in half as much time from such lenders!
And it ain’t leadership to wait until everyone else comes up with an idea and while being obtuse on the issue like Barry does! Both McCain and Biden were talking about the same thing. Let the company AIG go down! Neither of those two are happy about the bailout but realise it must be done because of those affected. Obama just gets to give back to those who have given to him!
Posted by: Zaggs | September 23, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
It’s an amazing game the republicans are playing. The pres submits a $700B spending bill to which vp meets with the republicans, and lo and behold, the republicans are against the bill. The dems are falling for the same old bush trick. Again Americans are getting screwed and mccain wins in the end. How convenient for the republicans. Democrats wise up, please.
Posted by: EH | September 23, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
McCain – Palin Rule.
Posted by: Kitty | September 23, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Yes, and Obama meanwhile is the one of the highest recipients (#2) of lobbying dollars from the institutions which started off this domino effect of failure – Frannie and Freddie Mac. What is his deal? Such a hypocrite! That’s what people find so disgusting about politics. His empty rhetoric and lack of character.
Posted by: StanfordCA | September 23, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Einstein once said: ‘The definition of insanity is: “Doing the same thing
> over and over again and expecting different results.”
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> The following stats come from an article by Glen Beck.
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> What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate “all” have in
> common? Answer: Democrat leadership.
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> Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican
> mayor since 1961;
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> Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;
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> Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… since 1984;
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> Cleveland, OH, (4th)… since 1989;
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> Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
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> St. Louis, MO (6th)…. since 1949;
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> El Paso, TX (7th) Has never had a Republican Mayor;
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> Milwaukee, WI (8th)… since 1908;
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> Philadelphia, PA (9th)… since 1952;
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> Newark, NJ (10th)… since 1907.
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> It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats,
> yet are still disadvantaged … hmmm…make you wonder?
Posted by: chris | September 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Obama doesn’t have the teleprompter in front of him to tell him what to do..
What do you hear from Obama.. Alot of I don’t know.. let’s wait and see,
More of the “Just Present” thinking.
Posted by: Logix | September 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Obama always said that he wanted a VP who would tell him what they really thought – even if they disagreed with him. The only thing is – Joe is telling the press/media before he tells Obama.
Posted by: Lisa S | September 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Bailout/Finger Pointing/20/20 Hindsight
Just basic politics! You have only one choice–your VOTE! If you don’t know who you should vote for you don’t deserve to vote–both have strength’s and weaknesses, so choose who you trust the most to do the very best–don’t ever confuse efforts with RESULT’S! Vote
ffor the most effective person and live wwith it–DRW
Posted by: Dennis R. White | September 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Obama has to wait to see what his campaign team tells him he needs to say. He can’t take a stand on anything by himself at the risk of sounding uninformed, inexperienced or wrong–which he frequently is. I want someone in the media to ask him about ACORN Housing and his role in this big market meltdown. But no one will.
Posted by: FlaLady | September 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
McCain and Biden were right about AIG.
Posted by: ExDem | September 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
obama is a joke, and way out of his league here. it will become more and more apparent in the next month. this will be fun.
Posted by: c. moore | September 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
George W. takes stands on issues – makes up his mind. End of story.
Facts be damned.
He’s the decider…
Posted by: Chris | September 23, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
I doubt Obama will drop Biden for Clinton now – it would be the death blow to his campaign, demonstrating a clear lack of judgement on his part. He missed his chance at the convention and he knows it. Plus, it’s likely Hillary Clinton is very pleased that Obama’s campaign is on the ropes. This clears the way for her run in 2012.
Posted by: Patrick | September 23, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
as usual the question goes unanswered – and the MSM lets him get away with it.
Posted by: Linda | September 23, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Obama will get stung by all of this specific rhetoric. McCain co-sponsored a bill to regulate the financial operations gone amok at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. This was struck down by the Democrats who were afraid this would make it hard for low-income (sub-prime) persons to afford a home.
Posted by: Mike L | September 23, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Two different standards rule – thats normal for Obama as well for Chicago politics. I know it. I am from Chicago.
Posted by: Lana | September 23, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
1st 6 years of Bush, economy was good….look it up!
Posted by: will | September 23, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Wait… I thought Joe was the experienced half of this pair? Did The One choose poorly?
Posted by: Gary | September 23, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Yes McCain & company’s bill to tighten regulation on Fanny & Freddie was opposed by Democrats. It was opposed by Republicans as well. Just another example of McCain taking on his own party to do the right thing. Democrats foot-dragged in 2003 when Bush tried to fix things then. Somehow, it’s still all his fault. Obama is winning this as a spin game. McCain people need to fight back, loudly, with the truth.
Posted by: Christopher McElree | September 23, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
I applaud NBC for finally asking Obama a follow up question! First time for everything.
Posted by: jetsoftdev | September 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Obama and the dems caused the problems we now have. Anyone who thinks differently is denying the truth. This is not an opinion but known facts. wake up America. If Obama wins it will only prove the dumbing down of America is here.
Posted by: John | September 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
obamas camp in total meltdown?
you for surely meant mccains camp because hes been in a free fall for a week now, and i dont see him gaining any footing yet
mccain is completely changing his ideals in a matter of moments even after years of voting and talking out against regulations
his economic policy is…. well pathetic
and he continues to lie and twist things around so when he last week couldnt come up with any plans or get anything right
and then says that was obama
cmon… this is pathetic mccain
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
God bless us all.
Posted by: Casual Observer | September 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
“A vote for mccain is a vote for four more years of the same failure as bush.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Barack Obama chose Joe Biden because he was the only person willing to get on the ticket with him. People keep questioning why he didn’t choose Clinton. He didn’t have that choice available to him because H.Clinton told him early on “Don’t even ask me to run with you because I won’t.” Look how many people turned him down and flat refused to get on board. He walked on alot of people to get this far, espeically the Clinton’s. Does anyone really think, after the way he treated Clinton during the primaries, that she or her husband would lift one finger to get him elected. Joe Biden was the only choice left and they probably begged him. Heck, he didn’t even know Obama or what he stood for before the pick. I’m sure at Joe’s age, this is probably the pinnnacle of his career. Winning or losing with Obama will not affect his future in politics because he is ready to retire.
Posted by: momydoll | September 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Obama and the Dems are the fault for what’s happening now.
Obama will say anything to get elected, not for the country, but for himself.
He is an arrogant, never-wrong/always right, BS politician.
Hope for Venom. He can even give a straight answer without attacking someone else.
Weaker by the minute…
Posted by: Patman | September 23, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Obama is right. You excuse the fact tht McCain is suddenly a populist when it is politcally expedient. He won’t admit it.
Posted by: JoeBama | September 23, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Words? Just words? With Obama, nothing but hot air.
Posted by: Thank God for Karma | September 23, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Here we go…DEMS setting up for booting BIDEN and bringing in HILLARY…IT IS ALL PLANNED
Posted by: Luddrick James | September 23, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Obama is the classic “Monday Morning Quarterback”. He never gets on the field and makes the tough decisions during the game, but instead waits until afterwards and berates the decisions of those who did play.
Since the days of Bill Clinton i have not witnessed another politician who likes to play both ends against the middle like Obama.
He is like the gambler who always wants to place his bet a minute after the game ends and the outcome is known. Presidentd don’t have that luxury.
If Mccain is smart, he will paint Obama as weak and indecisive (which shouldn’t be hard to do).
Posted by: Bill Mitchell | September 23, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Obama’s decision making ability can be clearly seen in the absolute poor choice he made for a runningmate. Imagine what bad decisions he will make for the economy.
Posted by: Rob | September 23, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Sarah Palin wasn’t even mentioned in this story, yet you left-wing bashers just cant help insulting her. McCain will easily get the majority of the women votes. The polls show Obama/Biden haven’t picked-up a single Hillary voter since June. So keep ‘em coming cowboys.
Posted by: Clyde | September 23, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
“I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that somebody like John McCain who for 26 years has been an advocate for deregulation”
First, he has been for SELECTIVE deregulation. Second, HE was the one who put forth a bill that Barney Frank and Chris Dodd killed that would have provided oversight of Freddie Mac and Fanny May. Then Barack and Chris Dodd are the top two receivers of Fanny and Freddie campaign dollars? And Barack has 2 former executives working as his economic advisors? You WANT that kind of advice?
WAKE UP PEOPLE! He’s playing you for a fool!
Posted by: boB | September 23, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
On any issue, be it the economy, foregin affairs, health care, etc, etc, Senator Obama has routinely displayed a better grasp and understanding of the issues facing this country. McCain and the McCain campaign have do not have a plan on any of the issues. Their tactic is to distract the American people with Palin and negative ads. It will be a sad in the world if a wingnut like Palin comes so close to the presidency.
Posted by: George | September 23, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Obama thinks McCain has not had clarity and a grasp on things? This guy doesn’t even have a grasp on what his running mate is doing and saying! First AIG and now his questioning of HIS OWN TICKET’S ad that ran. TALK ABOUT BEING OUT OF TOUCH! If you can’t keep track of Biden, how are you going to keep track of a Presidency?
Posted by: Jenny | September 23, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
P.S.,
“McCain is suddenly a populist”?
Lol, McCain has ALWAYS been a populist. Why do you think he was so unpopular with the Republican Base before he picked Sarah Palin?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell | September 23, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
The McCain flip-flop on AIG should come as no surprise, just as the “Country Frist” is a political jargon sham. If the country was truly first, McCain would recognize that the deficit and anticipaed financial needs precludes a tax cut and the progrsssive tax structure will require greater taxes from those withhigher incomes–not a novel concept in our tax structure. And,
McCain has limited media access to Pain under the ruse that her time is better spent in front of large crowds of America people rather than in an intervierw room–exception made today tomeet with foreign leaders for foreign policy resume’ boosting, rather than time spent with the America people.
Posted by: aquinas | September 23, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
“”Obama, one of your top advisors is the former CEO of Fannie Mae..the NOW failed Fannie Mae..”"
This is how rumors and lies get started. The McCain campaign tried last week to tie Franklin Raines to Obama and suggest that he has a role in the campaign. Absolutley not true if you believe both Obama and Raines and the reporter who interviewd Raines about a brief conversation between Raines and the Obama campaign that formed the flimsy basis for this smear. Still here we are with posters who would rather post a long winded rant and spread a lie than spend a few minutes getting his facts straight.
Posted by: Steve C | September 23, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Obama is the classic “Monday Morning Quarterback”. He never gets on the field and makes the tough decisions during the game, but instead waits until afterwards and berates the decisions of those who did play.
So true. Both McCain and Biden knew the markets would of crashed (instead of finishing up for the week)unless there was assurance the government would step in to help AIG. Obama is still smarting from being 100% wrong about the Surge.
Posted by: geevill | September 23, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
John Mccain was a co-sponsor of this bill it was oppposed by the democrats including Obama
S.190
Title: A bill to address the regulation of secondary mortgage market enterprises, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Hagel, Chuck [NE] (introduced 1/26/2005) Cosponsors (3)
Latest Major Action: 7/28/2005 Senate committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a substitute favorably
Posted by: max | September 23, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Obama is such a 2-faced clown.
“Now wait a minute!” = “Oh Crap, think Barack, THINK” and then he gives some meaningless answer designed to confuse voters/students.
Typical Lawyer…
Posted by: Jeremy | September 23, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
“Keating 5″
Yes, please do look it up. 1989, 5 senators, 4 of them Democrats, 2 Glenn and McCain found to be NOT at fault
Posted by: RPD | September 23, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
The look on Obama’s eyes when it’s mentioned how it might SEEM like he’s “trying to score some political points against John McCain using his words, when your own running mate had used very similar words.”
Priceless.
Posted by: Daniel Gardner | September 23, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
words just words obama. you are as dirty as they come.
the other guys are the ones bring reform and change to america.
Posted by: sirmrks | September 23, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Jenny,
“Their tactic is to distract the American people with Palin and negative ads.”
Have you seen the WHOPPERS Team Obama has been spewing forth lately? Even Newsweek and The Washington Post called them OUTRIGHT BALDFACED LIES:
Posted by: Bill Mitchell | September 23, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
If the democrats boot Biden and bring in Hillary, they will lose in a landslide because Americans will see that it was either all set up or Biden was booted for saying what he honestly believes-if they boot Biden and is back to being a community organizer of retired folks bingo games, ballroom dances or whatever Obama organized. community organizer–is that a laugher or what?
Posted by: rockychance | September 23, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
john you can say the sky is pink all day long it that never will change the fact that it is simply blue…
and this economic crisis, is this administration, phil gramms, wall street, and deregulators like (mccain)
taht is whos fault this eocnomic crisis is
the last major financial meltdown was during the keating Five scandal
guess who was involved in that market crisis also
mccain
so keep telling yourself this is the democrats faults the rest of america knows whos fault this is
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
The more Obama talks the dumber he gets. He, Biden and Clinton are responsible for the current economic situation and we should vote him in office?
Posted by: gm | September 23, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
The Clintons are very guilty of dirty deeds but honestly, Obama is a Chicago thug who would stoop to anything!
Posted by: rockychance | September 23, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Obama said when selecting a VP
“And the third criteria for me, I think, was independence. I want somebody who is going to be able to challenge my thinking and not simply be a yes-person when it comes to policy-making.”
“I think Joe should have waited as well.”
Another Obama flip-flop. Joe should be a Yes-man.
Posted by: geevill | September 23, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Obama choose a running mate who disagrees with him on how to handle the economic crisis. He actually agrees with his opponent on how it should be dealt with… Worse yet, Obama chose Biden for his experience and ability to deal with things like this.
Obama’s decision making skills are incredible. Can someone get me a good blooper reel on these guys?
Posted by: DG | September 23, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
…and just HOW LONG has Joe Biden been in the Senate, Senator Obama??? Since he was 22 years old I think it was? The YOUNGEST elected Senator?
Get it right, Barack!
Posted by: Mike Mundy, Houston, TX | September 23, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I don’t know that McCain is looking too great in this crisis, what with all his flip-flopping comments. I am not sure that anyone is looking great, as the fact is no one really knows what they are doing (including the commenters here). I doubt Sarah Palin possesses or is even capable of any deep thoughts on this crisis, however. Guess that is why we have not heard from her.
Posted by: Charles | September 23, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Well, Obama did say he picked Biden because he DIDN’T want someone who would just agree with him 100% of the time. Sounds like straight talk to me.
I personally respect Obama for not trying to make excuses for his running mate just because he’s his running mate though. After all, Obama stood true to what he himself said. I think McCain could learn a thing or two from Obama’s straight talk right now.
Posted by: jenny Jay | September 23, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Obama has two of the executives who rode the gravy train at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac just like Obama himself did. Obama got the second highest amount of money(nest to Dodd)from those two corrupt organizations. What a Chicago Gangster Obama is!
Posted by: rockychance | September 23, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Obama just keeps getting Dumber every single day. He has no control over his own thoughts.
Posted by: Mike Handler | September 23, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
so it is apparent that you people have no idea what a community organizer is and have no respect for them…
makes me wonder what you think of palin if being a community organizer is so bad
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
So, according to the chosen one, it’s OK for Joe Biden, who has served 36 years in the Senate, to flip-flop on an issue that’s happened while the Democrats have had control of Congress, but it’s not OK for John McCain to change views on an issue because he’s been in Congress 26 years?
Obama has been in Congress 2 years and, according to several reports, toed the party line 97% of the time. His running mate has been in Congress 36 years.
While the Democrats have controlled Congress, Congress has seen it’s approval rating plummet to under 20% – a full 10-15 points lower than the President’s approval rating that the Dems have made such a big deal about and used to claim that the President is out of touch with what Americans want.
It’s also come to light in recent days that the Democrats squashed a bill that most economists have said would have prevented the Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac debacle (a bill co-sponsored by John McCain).
McCain has been in Congress 26 years and, according to several reports, has toed the party line 90% of the time. His running mate has ZERO years in federal government.
How I do love Presidential campaign politics…
Posted by: timr1271 | September 23, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Camp 50: You appear to be the only one of the commenters who has any sense. Knowleadge is good, opinion and conjucture is scary.
Certainly our social problems go back before Clinton but the current demise of the market is a direct result of policies set in motion by a Democrat President and a Democrat Congress. Perhaps if some would quit listening to the talking heads of CNN or MSNBC and check out the facts. Certainly action needs to be taken, but is it logical to throw more money into the rat hole with out killing the rats? All who have been directly in charge and profited personally from system since the repeal of the G-S act should have their assets liquidated and used for any “bail out”.
The G-S act needs to be reinstated immediately. I don’t care what any of the current polls say, what O-bama or Biden say because they have personally benefited financially from the current fiasco. Possibly McCain also. Palin was a non player in the last 25 years in this issue. No matter, they are all currently running for office and the current people are the ones which need to act, NOW!
O’bama and Biden, what a pair. The right had doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. The bigger question is whose pocket do you want them to have their hand in? Yours? I can spend my money better than they can, can you?
Posted by: Dave | September 23, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
This tells it ALL: Who is the number one recipient of funds from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Chris Dodd – The person in the Sentate who is now trying to push the bailout! Who is the #2 recipient from these? Barack Hussein Obama!! A democrat. BTW: Dodd is also the #1 recipient from AIG.
Posted by: Chuck | September 23, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
People who are blaming McCain for the enconomic crisis are just not reading the papers. John McCain had nothing to do with this and, in fact, tried to stop it back in 2005 but no one in the Democratic Congress wanted to listen.
Posted by: dianeremarx | September 23, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
I guess the $125,000 in contributions Obama has gotten from Fannie & Freddie PAC over the years was well spent. At least McCain was a co-sponsor of S190 reform that was blocked by the Dems. in committee in 2005.
Posted by: E.P. | September 23, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
The thought of Obama becoming our president makes me physically ill. McCain has to nail him in the debates.
Posted by: RM | September 23, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Let’s see how the Democrat’s respond to this one, since they are trying to blame McCain for the Wall Street meltdown……. Senate Bill 190, 2005. Sponsor: John McCain.
Bill was to set up an oversight committee to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This quasi Government Corporation was overstepping it’s bounds and McCain wanted some oversight and set responsibility for the Executives.
THE VOTE – DOWN PARTY LINES – BILL WAS DEFEATED BY THE DEMOCRATS. REPUBLICANS WANTED OVERSIGHT AND THE DEMOCRATS DID NOT.
HERE IS SOMETHING SPECIFIC. NOW LET’S SEE THE DEMOCRATS WIGGLE OUT OF THIS!!!
Posted by: Bob | September 23, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
It is going to be interesting when watching what happens when the media turns on Obama. Believe, they will.
Posted by: JW | September 23, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Team “Hope’n Change” are in total meltdown.
This is fun to watch.
/grabs more popcorn
Posted by: nedschnittt | September 23, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
All of these rumors floating around about Obama kicking Biden off and calling in Clinton is nothing but wishful thinking. Doesn’t anybody get it that Clinton WILL NEVER get on that ticket as V.P. Obama doesn’t hold that ace in the hole, so to speak. She and her huisband couldn’t be any clearer on that fact. The Clinton’s know political suicide when they see it.
Posted by: momydoll | September 23, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
no hussein, what drives people crazy about politics is exactly your answer. being asked a specific question about one company, you swing things around to talk about general regulation and de-regulation. when asked why the sky is blue, people like you prefer to answer with why the grass is many shades of green.
Posted by: Udo4Accept | September 23, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Joe Biden at least had the guts to take a position. Obama, the typical politician, is hedging his bets both ways yet again.
I believe Joe Biden when he said he would be happy being McCain’s VP, and I am sure he is now regretting his decision to becomes Obama’s VP.
Posted by: Pete | September 23, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Is this the new politics that octoroon Obama wants, he can say what he wants but if you check the facts you will find out most of the time he is telling half-truths or just an out and out lie , Example “Obama, Sept. 20: And I’ll protect Social Security, while John McCain wants to privatize it. Without Social Security half of elderly women would be living in poverty – half. But if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would’ve had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week. Millions would’ve watched as the market tumbled and their nest egg disappeared before their eyes. Millions of families would’ve been scrambling to figure out how to give their mothers and fathers, their grandmothers and grandfathers, the secure retirement that every American deserves. So I know Senator McCain is talking about a “casino culture” on Wall Street – but the fact is, he’s the one who wants to gamble with your life savings.
That’s untrue. All current retirees would be covered by exactly the same Social Security benefits they are now under what the Obama campaign likes to call the “Bush-McCain privatization plan,” which Bush pushed for unsuccessfully in 2005.”
Posted by: roosterzz | September 23, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Can someone please tell me what a Community Organizer does? Come on! You guys keep saying Obama is qualified because of his experience as a C.O. so tell us, what exactly did Obama do?
Posted by: dianeremarx | September 23, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Mccain refuses to say that he will not have PHIL GRAMM as his treasury secretary
SCARY!!!
phil gramm wrote a lot of the deregulation laws that have caused the sub prime collapse.
He also was mccains pal and economic advisor until he said we were in a mental recession and america was a nation of whiners
mccains campaign advisor and his top strategist are all lobbyists for feddie and frannie and each have got millions for their lobbying help
mccain falsely accused obama of being advised by reigns but that was just another lie from mccain
mccain the deregulator!!!
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Matt Lauer is more of a journalist than 99.9% of the hacks from abc, nbc, fox, etc.
Way to stand up to the Messiah, Matt.
Posted by: JA | September 23, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
the republicans want us to bail out their buddies and pals that caused this mess and then the republicans want to blame the democrats for bailing them out
thanks but no thanks
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Why did mccain flip flop on every issue on every single day last week?
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
I shall not be watching Charlie Gibson anymore after his egregiously unfair treatment of Palin in his interview. Which “Bush doctrine”??- there have been four.
Posted by: smitty | September 23, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Does anyone consider that Obama is throwing Biden under the bus in the way that he did his grandmother, Bill Ayers, his convicted felon business partner Tony Rezko, and his pastor of over 20 years, Jeremiah Wright?
Perhaps, Obama is regretting his choice for VP and as such is trying to orchestrate a way for Biden to “step down” in place of Hilliary?
Obama is so sleezy, I wouldn’t put anything past him.
Posted by: Mike Jefferson | September 23, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Excellent anti-Obama TV ads aimed at Values Voters now airing in PA, CO, & NM
Memorable Animated Graphic Tag line on all ads: “DEFEND FREEDOM [drumbeat] DEFEAT OBAMA”
- Another Lifelong Democrat Voting for McCain.
Posted by: Lezident | September 23, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Is too funny, the nation is now finding out what we on the south side of Chicago have known all along –i.e., that Obama is a full of sound and fury, but signifies only that he is a Marxist with Saul Alinsky roots.
If he is elected, I hope you all enjoy politics Chicago style — which means your pockets are clipped and removed of money. That’s the “change” Obama believes in.
Posted by: Jake Braekes | September 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
“I am sure he is now regretting his decision to becomes Obama’s VP.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
sail : Try looking it up yourself. Think for yourself for once you tool. The lead council in the investigation wanted to release McCain from the investigation, said he had nothing to do with it, but the Dem’s wouldn’t allow it because that would leave only Dem’s under investigation. Just keep on believing in fairy tales, thats exactly what Obama’s experience is. By the way don’t delude yourself that I give one wit about McCain or that idiot Bush. You guys are singing songs and carrying signs, the trouble is they mostly say hurray for our side…
Posted by: fedupwithfed | September 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
God, what a self-righteous, pompous jerk!
Posted by: MKH | September 23, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
> It is going to be interesting when
> watching what happens when the media
> turns on Obama. Believe, they will.
Obama has so many scandals. Ratings and sales will go through the roof if they cover all the scandals.
Posted by: Pete | September 23, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Just maybe the term flip-flop” is beginning to be overused. Things change, people’s positions change. Courageous people are not afraid to bend with the wind. Not all changes are for political expedience. In politics the opposite of flip-flop is George Bush.
Halli Casser-Jayne
Posted by: Halli Casser-Jayne | September 23, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Does Barack ever answer a question he is asked ?
All he does is skirt the issue and it always comes back to blaming the Bush administration.
I am looking forward to the debates, I expect to hear alot of umms,ahhs,hold on a minutes and possibly some uncontrolable sobbing.
This clown has made it far enough, time for him to be exposed.
Posted by: Mike Nowicki | September 23, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Is it too much to ask to get a straight answer from this bozo? Do the leftists in this country really think Obama will lead? He can’t even lead his own Vice President.
If this clown wins, we’re doomed.
Posted by: Reality check | September 23, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Has anyone read Federal Housing REGULATORY REFORM Act 2005? It was proposed by McCain who had the foresight to fix this problem. But guess who shot it down on a party line vote? The democrats. I challenge someone to refute this.
Posted by: Jack | September 23, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
It’s funny how people on this board still try to defend this Obama screwup. Even McCain will/had his screwups before. The minute you try to defend something that is clearly not there, is the minute you lose your ability to independant and become a slave. If you support your candidate, admit it and move on.
All great presidents have done it before. Even Bill Clinton got away with sexually preying on women for most of his life. He is still, still a likable guy. He should admit he has a problem though.
Posted by: Darlene | September 23, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Plain and simple, Trickle down economics does not work. We had a recession in the late 80′s because of it and now we are on the brink of another great depression. Anyone who disagrees is blind. Bob Barr 08!
Posted by: Brendan | September 23, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Wow! The reverberations of the GOP echo chamber in this thread are really deafening. The idea that Democrats are primarily responsible for the repeated episodes of mindless deregulation that have led first to the S & L crisis (Keating Five anyone?) and now the mortgage meltdown is pretty funny. The fact that McCain gets economic advice from Rich Davis, a major lobbyist for the financial services industry, is somehow ignored. Right now, we have two candidates trying to sound like Barack Obama, but only one is.
Posted by: peter | September 23, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Another example of his leadership ability.
Community organizer in an area where more people got killed than US soliders in Iraq.
Posted by: G-Man | September 23, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I have yet to hear Obama say anything about what he actually would do in any situation. What he has done is blame McCain and attempt to paint him as Bush II. That’s getting a little old. And when Obama is actually not being negative, he is, if you watch carefully, saying nothing. He is a tired combination of worn out class enemy struggle and does not belong where he is now. He will be a disastrous leader for the US if elected, both domestically in the economy and internationally in power politics. Why do you think Putin, Chaves, Fidel, the Iranian fool and a host of others that wish us ill love Obama. Do not support. Do not encourage. Journalists, start doing your jobs again. If you did just a tenth of the digging on Obama that you’ve done on Palin we might know just how much cocaine Obama used and if he ever dealt. We might know just how it is that Obama, the “consensus-seeker”, attended Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years and never heard any hate speech.
Posted by: Connor | September 23, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
To respond to the email, not the other issues, which seem to really personal and need a professional in behavior or mental disease to correct. I appreciate Sen. Obama’s response to wait on getting more facts. We are not talking about $12, or helping the local soup kitchen from closing. This is a very serious issue, which we have been given little details. Thanks for your leadership Sen. Obama, your cool head presents the type of leader I am looking for. One who makes intelligent decisions from information. Not one who flies off the handle at the first sign of trouble. OBAMA 2008!!!
Posted by: SD | September 23, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
LMAO, McBush cracks me up totally! I love how one day he says one thing, then the next day says the complete opposite! Even funnie is the fact there are people who actualy support this man whose word clearly means nothing.
Jessup
Posted by: Sally SoMo | September 23, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
The Economy did fine the first 6 years under Bush — even considering the devastating impact of 9/11.
The Democrats promised changed in 2006 when they ruled Congress.
Change you can believe in…. ignore warning from Republicans that Fannie and Freddie needed some oversight. Democrats killed the bill. They wanted everyone to own a house…. even if they couldn’t afford and that’s what got us into this sub-prime mess. Democrats love give-aways— especially if it someone elses money.
Why not suspend all capital gain taxes and see if that doesn’t boost the economy instead of giving handouts?
Posted by: susie | September 23, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Obama became irrelevant weeks ago. Now he wants to wait to deliver his response? C’mon, who let this guy in the race? Dems coulda picked a decent candidate – now they’ll be whining and hating for 16 years. C’mon Dems – wake up!
Posted by: Joe | September 23, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Mccain seems to be getting his campaigan and obamas mixed up…
last week mccain said the fundamentals were strong, then he said fundamentals are workers
then he said we shouldnt bailout aig
then he said we should
then he said we should have a commission to figure out waht went wrong with wall street
then he realized a commission for a current ongoing crisis is like using a cotton swab as a tourniquet
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
One other thing, the silly troll comments that the Democrats are to blame for this crisis are laughable. I seem to recollect that a lot of the problem is mortgages and securities related thereto and it seems to me that situation largely developed since Bush became president, what with the irrational run-up of real estate prices and lack of real economic growth. Bush, if you will recall, would be the chief executive, the guy who is supposed to faithfully execute the laws, per the “quaint” document known as the Constitution. Also, it is my belief that the Democrats were not in charge of Congress, either, for 3/4 of the Bush administration and, when even in nominal control since the beginning of 2007 only, Senate rules have precluded much getting done without Republicans going along. And that is all without considering that when any bill gets passed, it goes to Bush, he of the multitude of signing statements and proven incompetence. So just drop the ludicrous attempts to tar the Democrats. It’s either completely pathetic or certifiably delusional. Plus, you’re simply not getting paid enough to do it!
Posted by: Charles | September 23, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
All I can say is that Obama does not know the first thing about business and that goes for the Democrats in general. That is why they are going to try to keep the chaos going in order to try to pin blame on the Republicans and shift attention away from Obama’s background which is shady at best. Good luck Obama supporters but keep in mind that you know nothing about your guy or you would not vote for him
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Biden doesn’t understand that
he has to operate in unison
with the man at the top of
the ticket.
He is a klutz – has no finesse,
no savoir faire.
The Dems should let him go.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
your housing bill addressed only one of the issues not all of them, and then mccains buddy PHIL GRAMM changed those laws
mccain is a deregulator he has said so many many times
we are in this mess because of phil gramm and mccain
just like keating five, mccain once again is in the hot seat during a financial crisis
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Sorry, Obama, Lauer had it right. You just wanted to score political points.
Posted by: Tom in NY | September 23, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Obama is waiting fir everyone else to come up with the ideas to fix the problems. Once these problems are fixed he will take credited for the idea. He is a empty suit. Obama is a empty suit. OBAMA IS A EMPTY SUIT.
Posted by: DDB | September 23, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
My oh my…what a surprise that Obama would “vote present” on the AIG bailout and then then someone actually suggests an idea or opinion, he jumps out of his “change” box and cries foul. A few years ago Bush tried to work with Dems to fix Social Security and all the Dems could do was accuse him of trying to starve seniors. What a sick lot on the liberal, hateful left in our nation.
Posted by: Karl | September 23, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Obama and his democratic friends got paid off to look the other way why this imploded.Trying to blame this on McCain
who actually pressed for legislation to
combat the corruption at Fanny/Freddie
is about as stupid as him complaining about Palin reversing and killing the “bridge to nowhere” when him and Biden
actually voted for it.
Posted by: Baxter Greene | September 23, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Typical Obama. Dont take a position so you can have maximum “flexibility” to criticize those who have the courage to act. That counter-punching tactic sometimes works in senate and law school debates, where nothing depends on an outcome, but god help us if he ever has to lead this country in a true emergency. It would be 4 years of Jimmy Carter-like hand wringing and paralysis.
Posted by: grose305 | September 23, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
“But it’s the kind of thing that drives people crazy about politics,” Lauer said. “It sounds like you were trying to score some political points against John McCain using his words, when your own running mate had used very similar words.”
“No, hold on a second Matt,” Obama said. “I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that. . . . I’m going to change the subject now real fast and hope you don’t notice because I have no explanation.
Posted by: Dave B | September 23, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Keating 5- Mccain was investigated and cleared..Just like Bill Clinton, that is how the system works
Posted by: Ramo | September 23, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
From the Washington Post (hardly an ardent supporter of Republican candidates):
Wednesday, July 16, 2008; Page D01
….Franklin D. Raines has been quietly constructing a new life for himself. He has shaved eight points off his golf handicap, taken a corner office in Steve Case’s D.C. conglomeration of finance, entertainment and health-care companies and more recently, taken calls from Barack Obama’s presidential campaign seeking his advice on mortgage and housing policy matters…
Thursday, August 28, 2008; Page A18
…Two members of Mr. Obama’s political circle, James A. Johnson and Franklin D. Raines, are former chief executives of Fannie Mae..
Nobody in Obama’s campaign said anything to the contrary until after the McCain ad September 19, 2008.
McCain’s characterizations may not be accurate, but, considering the reporting, and the sources, those characterizations are not lies. There’s a difference between a lie and a mistake. It doesn’t help political discourse to label as lies every statement unfavorable to your favorite—no matter how well documented (even if mistaken).
Posted by: Bob U | September 23, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Obama totally dodged that question and Matt let him.
It’s like I’m playing cards with my sister’s kids.
Posted by: Charlie | September 23, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
TO: JOBAMA who said “Obama is right. You excuse the fact that McCain is suddenly a populist when it is politcally expedient.”
OBAMA is far left, left, left of left, right of left, left of center, right of center, center, right of right, right, ghetto dude, urban sophisticate, black preacher, white comedian, teacher dude, Hollywood elitist, preppy, basketball dude, wannabe President….whatever is expedient.
FOR SOME REAL CLARITY, see Investors Business Daily, IBDeditorials , “Crony Capitalism is Root Cause of Fannie and Freddie Troubles” posted 9-22-08. Lots of Clarity.
Posted by: no doze | September 23, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Obama was my choice, but he clearly has shown a disrespect and contempt for anyone other than himself.
Country First or Obama First?
Posted by: SRM | September 23, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
It is coming… wait for it:
“Joe Biden announced today that, despite great regret, he must withdraw from the Democratic Presidential ticket due to illness. There is some conjecture as to if it was really based on political differences between he and running mate Barrak Obama, but that has been unconfirmed by the Obama ticket. Secretly, democrats are excited about the possibilities that the announcement of Hillary Clinton to be Obama’s new running mate will unite the party, and sway some of the female vote away from the McCain Palin ticket…”
Watch for it… it is coming. The real question is how will the liberals dispel the notion that Obama is correcting his first major blunder, the real look into is decision making abilities…. First there is voting present in so many important votes, now he will be playing “do-over”.
This isn’t the fifth grade; it is the most powerful position in the world. Do we really want a “we’ll get back to you on our plan for the financial crisis” president?
Obama=Empty suit!
Posted by: Verbal | September 23, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
A revolution has taken place and not a single shot was fired nor was there a single demonstration in the streets. The Den of Thieves, aka Wall Street, has taken over the Government of the United States in a bloodless coup. And the answer to the takeover is to give this same Den of Thieves 700 billion of our money to spend as they wish with no oversight? Does the old phrase “the fox is guarding the chicken coop” seem to ring true? Goodbye Representative Republic, hello United States Socialist Republic. Hey……..it’s the USSR all over again.
Posted by: Jofus | September 23, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
If Obama is the real deal as a creative thinker and a candidate truly driven to win, he would drop Biden and get Hillary as VP. Anything less will be more the same since he chose Biden – a closer, if not losing, race. (Another young Illinois politican went through several generals to finally get it right when he chose Grant.)
Posted by: Joe | September 23, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Can anyone honestly tell me what BO did while he was a community organizer, IL state rep, or as a senator? No bull please, just some truths. Will be waiting and believe me when I say I will have them checked out.
Posted by: jd | September 23, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
It would be so nice if Obama and his disembling sychophants would not selectively misquote McCain and pull statements out of context. Bush proposed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform that was blocked by the Dems (including Obama) on Capitol Hill twice. BTW: It’ll be interesting to see who Obama blames for the selection of Biden as his VP running mate…Bush, McCain, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, how about his grandmother ? If choosing that blithering clown is a statement to Obama’s judgement, well…do I have to go on ? No teleprompter Friday evening, Barry.
Posted by: MDWhite | September 23, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
You seem to be forgetting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were propped up by Clinton and full of Clinton pals. I don’t deny there was greed on a large scale but with Fannie and Freddie soaking up all these sub-prime time bombs, what did we expect.
Posted by: Brian | September 23, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Charlie, All roads to the financial crisis lead back to Fannie Mae. Democrats are neck deep in causing Fannie Mae’s troubles. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and a whole host of characters who ran the place into the ground, jumped out with golden parachutes and now are working on Obama’s campaign. The truth is out there if you’re willing to look for it.
Posted by: swathdiver | September 23, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Obama and his supporters are so clueless it’s staggering!
Posted by: Cory | September 23, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
It’s hilarious to me that people keep talking about Frannie and Freddie being corrupt, etc. First, they are not the cause of the financial meltdown. They did not offer sub-prime teaser rate mortgages. People who want to use them as a proxy for claims to small government are idiotic, because it was small government and pro “free market” ideology (promoted by McCain/Bush/Reagan Republicans) that permitted lenders to sign people to loans that they knew would not be repaid. The fiscal crisis hit Fannie and Freddie because they are the top of the pyramid, like AIG and Morgan–themselves bastions of free market business. But at the end of the day, it was the loan sharks who preyed upon working class americans who made this happen. And they did it with government sanction, and then sold off their debt in bundles, etc. So its great that you can make claims about Obama in order to advance your agenda (which by the way is why you will be footing the bill and experiencing hyperinflation).
Posted by: james | September 23, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
here it comes………
Barry’s excuse to drop Biden and recruit Hillary,,,
WIN at any cost…
does this show leadership?
he flip flops on everything, including MAYBE his running mate
Posted by: mt | September 23, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Don’t blame me, I’m voting for the SpongeBob – Patrick ticket!
Can’t be any worserer than all these other clowns.
Posted by: Seeweed | September 23, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
I see all the little Mitchy Malkinites are here to bash Obama like the schoolyard children they are.
Posted by: nordstrom | September 23, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Phil Graham introduced legislation ten years or so ago to allow interstate debit card usage and to allow banks to sell insurance and other instruments. It was supported by Robert Rubin, Obama’s current economics adviser, and passed 90 zip in the senate. Biden voted for it and it is not the cause of the mess we are now in.
Posted by: mdswin | September 23, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Couple of comments. (1) When this thing first came out…no one knew the breath and gravity of it…or at least Paulsen didn’t as it unraveled..(see Bloomberg article) That is why McCain seemed to have flip-flopped…he like others were only “reacting” to information they were given…and I am not sure ANYONE KNOWS WHAT THE REAL TRUE INFORMATION IS TODAY.
(2)…While Congress, including McCain were on board with deregulation IN THE 1990′S…in 2003..McCain called for REGULATION of Fannie and Freddie…he was ONE OF THREE PEOPLE. Everyone seems to miss that point. The biased MSM just repeats the 1990s part and gets a lapse of memory about 2003.
Third…HERE IS WHERE I REALLY GET MAD…Just like McCain said back in 2003 that something had to be done…here we are in 2008 WITH THE ENERGY BILL…FOLKS…WE NEED GAS…THE $$$ FROM OIL REVENUES WILL PULL US OUT OF THIS MESS AND FIX THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND GET PEOPLE WORKING. OIL IS THE NEW CURRENCY OF THE USA…NOT THE DOLLAR. UNTIL WE GET FREE OF THE $700b IN OIL..WE ARE SCr*WED. HOW DARE THEY WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC PROBLEM…AND NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE IT WORSE BY NO DRILLING…OF WHICH MOST OF AMERICA WANTS.
SO..IF YOU AGREE WITH ME AND YOUR SENATORS ARE NOT PART OF THE GANG OF 20…LET’S VOTE THE IDIOTS OUT AND GET SOMEONE TO DO THE PEOPLE’S BUSINESS…NOT THEIRS.
p.s. IF YOU HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT THAT OBAMA WILL DO AND SAY ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED…YOU ARE NAIVE…THE MAN WILL SELL HIS COUNTRY OUT FOR HIS OWN WISHES.
Posted by: Carolyn | September 23, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
“In the mid-1960s, Mr. Ayers taught at a radical alternative school, and served as a community organizer in Cleveland’s ghetto”
So “community organizers” bomb the Pentagon?
“William Ayers was a Community Organizer
Sarah Palin is a Governor”
Posted by: geevill | September 23, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
anyone can lie, but republicans do it best
mccain had no idea what was going on last week, his whole ideology was the cause of the problem….
so waht do they do next week, blame obama!
Posted by: Bhrandon | September 23, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae tanked because they were adhering to the Democrat presure to give out loans to people who could never afford to pay them back.
It was the affirmative action of the housing industry.
So, tell me. When is Obama going to admit that has the failed Fannie Mae CEOs has his financial advisors and that while they were driving these companies into the dirt, they were lavishly contributing millions of dollars to political campaigns?
The largest recipients of that money were John Kerry , Christopher Dodd, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama. Fact
Posted by: The Real "One" | September 23, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Does everyone just spew information they hear and think it is real? Here are the facts about McCain’s regulatory record in the housing market. RON PAUL first submitted a House resolution to disallow the government to bail out the banks in 2003! In 2005, Rangel introduced the Senate resolution with McCain as a co-sponsor along with Elizabeth Dole and Sununu. In 2007, Rangel re-introduced the bill with Sunun, Dole, and now Mel Martinez as co-sponsors. So, McCain was for it ni 2005 but did not co-sponsor it in 2007. Also when it did not get out of committee in 03 and 05, it was during a REPUBLICAN Congress in control of BOTH houses.
Do not say the DEMS stopped it!! That is a flat out lie…
Posted by: sjncomic | September 23, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Love it! Give Biden and NObama enough air time and they will show the country that they are not fit to be in charge.
SCHWING!
Posted by: stu | September 23, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Trouble in paradise? LOL The shoe-in is clue-less. CHANGE is a WORD not a PLAN. And no he won’t be able to bring his teleprompter along on Friday.
Posted by: big bob | September 23, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
The markets have worked fine. Stupid loans have bitten back and companies have been wiped out as they deserved to be. Problem is the bailout. No bailout! We can’t have the benefits of market economies with the populism of government intervention. Capitalism and socialism don’t mix well for long term policy making. No Bailout. Obama will make a huge mess out this trying to correct the Clinton mortgage lending policies of the 90′s which clearly precipitated today’s meltdown. Let’s get on with paying the price, but not at the expense of protecting the free markets which have brought us so much good.
Posted by: John Wark | September 23, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Wow! Obama doing the Curly Shuffle! WooWooWooWoo!! I can’t figure out which of the Three Stooges he reminds me of. Lord help us if he gets elected president!
Posted by: DemsHosedUs | September 23, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
I think Biden is in controlled self destruction so that they have an excuse to can him and bring Hillary back on board.
That said, I also think that pants suit has sailed. Obama missed his chance with women, and pandering now would be worse than dismissing Hillary before.
Posted by: Tom Genin | September 23, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
WHOD? “What Has Obama Done?” – ever??!
Posted by: Dean | September 23, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
First of all, Obama made it quite clear when picking Biden that he wanted someone that wouldn’t be afraid to disagree or hold a different position. Two people on a ticket agreeing with everything each other says and repeating the same points of view is not good a definte sign of a strong ticket, it moreclosely resembles two people who are rehearsed and will only say things that they think will score political points.
Other than that, Obama is the top of the ticket, so he has the right to say that Biden should have waited. This would be a much larger (and perhaps a legit) story if Biden comes out and says that Obama is wrong. The top of the ticket’s perspective, for better of worse, is the official one of the campaign.
Posted by: Lionel | September 23, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Hey SD, you are spot on about Bush being President for the last 8 years and taking responsibility for the crisis in credit markets. So were you crowing for Clinton’s head in the late 90′s when the dot com bubble burst? Doubt it, that was in your mind, just the markets doing what they do. Let’s be real here, dems in Congress (Barney Frank, Chris Dodd) badgered and bullied the banking industry into giving home loans to people who had no business getting them. The industry complied with the usual percentage of greedy crokks taking advantage of the situation, add to that a out to lunch regulatory body – the SEC and you have a disaster. Did Bush do anything to help it – probably not – he just went along with the “affordable housing” crowd in Congress so he could look like a nice guy. your dems are as complicit as everyone else in Washington, yet Barney Frank has the nerve to mouth off about how it’s Wall Street greed that caused it. He partially right, but Washington hubris and meddleing started the whole thing.
Posted by: Chris G | September 23, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
BHRandon:
After Sarah Palin was a “Community Organizer” she actually served on the City Council for 2 terms, as a Mayor for 2 terms, as an Executive of a Company, and as a Governor. There’s a big difference in serving in an EXECUTIVE position that has real RESPONSIBILITIES, than as someone who doesn’t. Barry Obama has NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE in any capacity. Zero, None, Nada. He has NEVER had to make any EXECUTIVE Decisions! He actually voted “present” instead of “yea” or “nay” on several issues while serving in the Illinois senate because he couldn’t make a decision. The VP Candidate for the Repbulican party has VASTLY more EXECUTIVE experience than the Presidential candidate that the “all about show” Democrats have offered.
Posted by: Chuck | September 23, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
This isn’t the fifth grade; it is the most powerful position in the world. Do we really want a “we’ll get back to you on our plan for the financial crisis” president?
No…we want a guy that never blinks…always knows the right answers…never questions his own instincts. We want a COWBOY to lead us. A maverick…an old cranky guy ehat never wants to be confused by the facts. We certainly don’t want a guy who confers with smart people, hears all sides before he makes a decision. We don’t have time for inteligent processes. We want a leader who can confidently take us over the cliff.
Posted by: Ed Sommers | September 23, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Everything Binden is doing and saying is pointing to a meltdown, a reason to get pulled from this ticket.
Today he blamed China for the pollution in the USA………huh ?
My question is, will Hillary be desperate enough to join Obama or will she watch him go down in flames in hope of taking the ticket in 2012, otherwise she may never have a chance at President in 2016.
I love to watch the Dems self destruct.
Posted by: Mike Nowicki | September 23, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Obama claiming McCain doesn’t have clarity on the financial crisis is a joke. McCain has released a detailed, 6 point plan while Obama claims to have a “secret plan” he’ll only release if elected. McCain sponsored a bill in 2006 to enact regulations and reforms that would have prevented the melt down at Freddie and Fannie, and yes, their meltdown and the corruption there is a HUGE contributor to this crisis despite the ignorant posting of another on this board who claims otherwise. The Democrats opposed McCains reform, including Obama, that experts say would have prevented this dominoe effect on other financial institutions and with a few liberal Republicans managed to kill this bill. Obama cannot continue to pretend to be about change, or point the finger of blame at others when he was part of the problem.
Posted by: MikeA | September 23, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
The Democrats are so clueless. It’s amazing any are stupid enough to follow their lead.
Posted by: Jason | September 23, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
The markets are working correctly. Those who made dumb choices are being punished. Some cannot handle the Darwinian nature of the free market. Lord Messiah Obama is running around wanting to be an economic creationist.
Posted by: Ryan | September 23, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
I’m shocked that comments about this article are attacking Sarah Palin. Some people believe Democrats support women but look who are the first to attack when she doesn’t think just the way they want her to. Obama picks a white, male, Washington insider to be Vice President and McCain picks a woman, outsider, governor to be Vice President. I think the Presidential candidate’s true colors are showing. I support electing an accomplished woman to be Vice President. I support Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Shocked | September 23, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Obama is just a political opportunist pushing his socilist agenda at every turn. Is he going to return the Fanie Mae money he received? He forgets it was his party that used regulation to force banks to make loans to people with no money down in the name of encourage home ownership. Now we are paying for his parties attempt to buy votes with tax payers money.
Also even Bidden admits Obama should have choosen Clinton as VP.
Posted by: Michael | September 23, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
“A vote for McCain is a vote for four more years of the same failure as bush. McCain has backed bush’s proposals ninety-five percent of the time. Does Palin know what doctrine means?”
Posted by: sail
Why can’t you people stick with the issues. The mind numbing McCain is four more years of Bush garbage is getting old. Everyone knows that McCain has gone against Bush several times and is in no way like Bush. Since 2005, Mr. McCain has led as chief sponsor of 82 bills, on which he had 120 Democratic co-sponsors out of 220 total, for an average of 55 percent. He worked with Democrats on 50 of his bills, and of those, 37 times Democrats outnumber Republicans as co-sponsors.
Barack, the great reformer, the messiah, the civic organizer (whatever that is! ha ha) Obama, meanwhile, sponsored 120 bills, of which Republicans co-sponsored just 26, and on only five bills did Republicans outnumber Democrats. Mr. Obama gained 522 total Democratic co-sponsors but only 75 Republicans, for an average of 13 percent of his co-sponsors.
Now, back to the topic, how can anyone justify voting for a man that hangs with the likes of Ayers, or Jeremiah Write for that matter? Liberals are truly insane!
Posted by: Al-in-Indy | September 23, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
the only reason why anyone would disagree with obama is because of racism.
racism i tell you.
the guy is gloriously beautiful. he has a great speaking voice. he lives the american dream of coming from no where over night to where he is today. everyone who doesn’t see the beauty and the glory of this dude is a racist. He said so himself, and therefore must be true.
In this particular case, biden is clearly wrong. He didn’t consult the oracle of Illinois before he misspoke.
I am never wrong, because I run everything I type by the great Oracle before I type it.
To the nonbelievers, believing in Change is easy, you simply have to outsource reality to the GREAT ONE, and you will have Hope.
Posted by: hahah | September 23, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
“The Markets have worked fine. The problem is the bailout.” Yeah, by this reasoning, they worked well in the 1930s too. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE MARKET. HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE INTEREST RATE???
Posted by: james | September 23, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
If Biden dropped out, Hillary would NEVER be Obama’s running mate. NEVER! Hillary is doing her part to help the Democrats but you can see her heart isn’t in it and neither is Bill’s. Look how generous Bill has been toward Palin and McCain. He shows class – Obama doesn’t. There are a lot of people who will NEVER forget how Hillary and Bill were treated. I’m one of them.
Posted by: dianermarx | September 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Obama and Biden are contradicting one another every other day. Obama really seems desperate and panicky in his daily distortions and down right lies.
Posted by: Tobias2012 | September 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Biden spoke out of turn. He should have waited three days for Barrack to see which way the wind is blowing.
Biden disagreed with the attack ad on McCain being out of touch until his handlers told him he needed to change his stance. So he voted against it, before he voted for it.
Joe is getting slapped around for having his own opinion. For all of the democrats reading this, realize that McCain and Palin disagree on some issues, but no one has told Palin to shut up a get in line. What a concept. Someone disagrees, but they are willing to listen to each other and discuss ideas.
Posted by: JW | September 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
For those asking about what Obama did as a community organizer (and no bull) you can Google three names–Saul Alinsky, William Ayers and Bernardine Dohr (the last two were on the FBI’s Top Ten Most Wanted list until they finally turned themselves in)…Check out Wikipedia for all three. Also check out Saul Alinsky’s desire for “Change” (it sounds quite familiar). Check out how that wanted to effect “change” by violent overthrow of the United States government. Barack Obama–Wrong for America……
Posted by: S. Parsons | September 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
that anyone asked such question from obama is a miracle. he will make more gaffes than biden if media will just ask the hard questions as they do with others.
obama is just another pol out of chicago.
not a leader but a follower
he was/is in the tank for fannie. now media is in the tank for obama.
Posted by: sfernando | September 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Barney Frank & Chris Dodd also need to be forced to resign their committee chairmanships & ridden out of Washington on a rail! The did nothing for years while chairing the committees overseeing both Fannie & Freddie. Now that the public finally sees their fingerprints are all over this scandal they want to go to work to fix things. TOO LITTLE! TOO LATE!
Posted by: RKH | September 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Mediocre academics tend to hide their position in ambiguous phrasing, so their points can’t be proven either right or wrong. Brilliant minds (think Einstein and Richard Feynman) are always more plain spoken and are never afraid to take a stand. Obama is out in the spotlight (wishing he could go back on vacation) looking for a place to hide his position.
Posted by: Tora | September 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
The reason the Dems blocked S190 is their committment to the Black Caucus in Congress who has been pushing housing for the poor since Bill Clinton’s days(the first “black” president) at the expense of taxpayers. Nothing wrong with housing for the poor but not at the unknown expense to taxpayers.
People who say McCain was involved in the Keating 5 always fail to admit that he was absolved of any guilt association by the same Demos who thought he was Involved. As they said “check it out”!!!
Posted by: Igor Braun | September 23, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Did anyone see Obamrama on the show with George Stephanopoulos when he made the slip and said “My Muslin Faith”. I wonder how many true christains have made that slip. Think about it.
Posted by: Disabled Viet Nam vet for McCain | September 23, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Bhrandon accurated quoted Albert Einstein in saying: “The definition of insanity is: “Doing the same thing
over and over again and expecting different results.” However he took a quantum leap to Glen Beck -not a rocket scientist- and mis-applied the quote to the current situation. The current situation is thus: Almost 8 years of less than competent republican leadership that got us into the worse financial situation since the depression, loss of thousands of jobs, into an endless war through deception, thousands of American military men and women killed or severely wounded, and did I mention Katrina…. More republican leadership in the White House will not produce a different result. I think we really need change, with a leader who was at the top of his class rather than at the bottom.
Posted by: Larry | September 23, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
As usual the Democrats like to practice revisionistic history. They seem to forget that it was Clinton who inacted the CRI forcing banks into lending to unqualified borrowers so that the great American dream of owning a home could be realized by everyone. It was McCain who co-sponsored s190 that Clinton Obama and Biden refused to back which now has come back to bite us in the butt
Posted by: jpk | September 23, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Obama’s toast!
Posted by: Dave | September 23, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
“Joe Biden announced today that, despite great regret, he must withdraw from the Democratic Presidential ticket due to illness.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
So let me get this right…. Obama says that Biden should have waited before making a comment. I’m guessing so that he could get more information on the situation, and then make an educated response to the situation. Similar to Obama refusing to give a response until after he had more information.
But here’s the problem…. Obama blasted McCain for suggesting the formation of a panel to assess the situation and come up with solutions. Wouldn’t that be the same thing, only instead of one persons advisors coming up with a solutions, you would have a bipartisian group of the top thinkers in the country coming up with a solution?
Perhaps one of you Dems can tell me why McCain’s proposal of a commission to address the situation is bad, but Obama’s waiting to give an answer after all the information is available is good?
Posted by: Bill | September 23, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
See…this is why people who are leaning Democrat should reconsider…do you see the post previous…they are quoting Ariana Huffington as “an expert”. This is why McCain’s regulation bill did not go through…it was killed by people who don’t know anything and “profit” from their rhetoric…Dodd made out BIG TIME…AND HUFFINGTON WILL MAKE OUT BIG TIME IF ANYONE READS HER. WOW…I WONDER IF SHE SHOULD GO TO WORK FOR BLOOMBERG…OR THE WSJ?
Posted by: Carolyn | September 23, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Country first or Obama first? Neither of these Senators knows the first things about our economy and hopefully McCain can find some honest leadership to help him in this area. Obama has already surrounded himself with the same crooks that caused the problem in the first place, so you have the first inklings of his “change” – NOTHING! I for one am tired of making my mortgage payments on time and working hard and having my tax money used to bail out crooks and give free homes to those who cannot or will not earn a decent living. If that makes me cold, so be it.
Posted by: Dennis in Ohio | September 23, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Gotta love Biden, the ultimate gaffe machine.
Posted by: Tom | September 23, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
All of this ‘he didn’t know what was going on’ stuff is dumb. Whether it’s against Obama or McCain. NOBODY knew what was going on, going to happen or what to do. There are a lot of very smart people working on this problem and even they are unsure of the days ahead. If you think you’re smarter, apply for or run for a position. Truth is, deregulation is not the problem. The current state of regulation is. And the current state of regulation and structure of Fannie and Freddie was given it’s power and started under Carter and continued under Clinton.
Posted by: wjones | September 23, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Actually, one reader had it right. Both McCain and Biden are more qualified than Obama to be President. What makes Obama think he is more qualified? His experience? His advisor from Freddie Mac? Tony Rezko. I am telling you, this guy is going to lose in a landslide even if McCain keeps fumbling the ball.
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
I absolutely cannot stand Hillary Clinton, but Obama is so scary that Hillary is starting to look good. At least if she was president, I might be able to sleep in peace every now and then.
Posted by: Kelly | September 23, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Well it finally happened, I felt that Ob, Obi, would eventually have a meltdown. I don’t doubt that OBiden was not the RIGHT DECISION AND THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION, THAT A PRESIDENT CANDIDATE HAS TO MAKE ON HIS OWN. CAN WE CONTINUE TO TRUST A CANDIDATE, THAT CANNOT EVEN MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE AND MOST IMPORTANT OF HIS CAREER. I WAS FOR HILLARY, I PRAY THAT SHE WOULD NOT TAKE SECOND CHOICE SHE DOES NOT NEED IT. IT IS FOR SURE THAT OB, WILL NOT WIN. WE NEED A PRESIDENT OF THE USA, THAT CAN MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE THE FIRST TIME. HILLARY WILL HAVE HER TURN 20L2, I WOULD LOOSE RESPECT FOR HER IF SHE JOINED NOBAMA…..SO MUCH FOR THE EXPERTS HE IS GOING TO DEPEND ON TO MAKE HIS DECISIONS, WHICH THERE ARE AT LEAST 300, IN HIS POCKET.. SORRY FOR THE TRUTH.
Posted by: CMHinsley | September 23, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
I distinctly remember Obama coming out in support of Bernanke and Paulson’s bailout plan last week. Now he is back pedaling.
I don’t think anyone knows what they are doing. This mess exploded in their faces and left everyone dumbfounded.
Posted by: S Adams | September 23, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Obama is an opportunist. He will say whatever it takes to get elected. Every word out of his mouth is politically calculated. Obama is like a used car salesman. Trust him at your own risk.
Posted by: rodlang | September 23, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
“Obama is out in the spotlight (wishing he could go back on vacation) looking for a place to hide his position.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
For those of you out there who still want desperately to believe that the F/F meltdown on Washington is the fault of republican deregulation:
“These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, in response to Bush Administration proposals in 2003 for a bank-like regulator for Fannie and Freddie, New York Times, 9/11/03.
The morgage crisis, the ‘bottom line’ in this financial melt down owes it’s start and finish to the ‘low income home loans’ doled out by these corporations, all in the name of ‘fairness’. The corporations don’t mind, they knew that the congress would need to bail them out if the bottom fell out, and the democrats in congress knew that they would gain votes by supporting the low-income housing initiatives. There is a REASON these people couldn’t get these loans any other way; because the couldn’t PAY THEM BACK! Combine that with the democratic congress cutting off any hope of domestic oil production (raising the price of gas to astronomical heights, hitting the poor the hardest) do you really think that the price of gas didn’t have a dramatic effect on the ability of these low-income borrowers to pay their mortgage? As usual, the only thing that we get out of congress is finger-pointing, and behind the scenes political deals…
To the democratic congress, this is not a crisis; it is an opportunity to jam down our throats funding for programs that in no way would pass scrutiny on their own merits. Look at the secret deals that Pelosi and Reed are pushing through, look for the fine print to see where BILLIONS of dollars are going, attached as riders to the bill…
Posted by: Verbal | September 23, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Obama needs to go back on “The View” where they ask him difficult questions like “Is it true you are related to Brad Pitt?”
Posted by: susie | September 23, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
This crisis started way before Bush became President,just like the proclamations that Saddam having
WMD and ties to al-qaeda began way before Bush.Democrats selective memory does not change the facts:
“But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street’s most revered institutions.
Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was either that or face stiff government penalties.
The untold story in this whole national crisis is that President Clinton put on steroids the Community Redevelopment Act, a well-intended Carter-era law designed to encourage minority homeownership. And in so doing, he helped create the market for the risky subprime loans that he and Democrats now decry as not only greedy but “predatory.”
“As soon as Clinton crony Franklin Delano Raines took the helm in 1999 at Fannie Mae, for example, he used it as his personal piggy bank, looting it for a total of almost $100 million in compensation by the time he left in early 2005 under an ethical cloud.
Other Clinton cronies, including Janet Reno aide Jamie Gorelick, padded their pockets to the tune of another $75 million.”
Yea right,it was all Bush’s fault.
Just like McCain tried to do later,Bush
attempted to address this problem,getting nothing but obstruction
from democrats on the take:
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae :
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry. ”
democrats offered nothing but obstruction and made no “real” attempts
to increase regulation that McCain and
Bush called for.
“In 2004 another attempt was launched. The Senate took up a measure put forwarded by Senate Banking Committee Chairman Richard Shelby (R-AL) only to have it blocked again by Fan & Fred using Democrats as a partisan attack machine:
Fannie and Freddie chose to fight legislation in the Senate Banking Committee that embodied the administration’s minimum requirements, particularly the receivership provision, in the late spring of 2004. The companies called in their chits and managed to obtain solid Democratic opposition to the bill crafted by the committee’s chairman, Richard Shelby (R-Ala.).
Many attempts(2003,2004,2005) to address this problem were attempted only to be blocked by democrats.
Posted by: Baxter Greene | September 23, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Joe Biden – the gaffe that keeps on giving!
Posted by: c'est moi | September 23, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
McCain/Palin would be even
more disastrous than Bush/Cheney.
This is what the Bush Doctrine
and big oil big business
deregulation have brought us.
A no-good war for nothing. A
trillion dollars down the drain.
An economy on life support. A
trillion dolar bailout for
Wall Street firms the Republican
government failed to regulate.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Here we see Obama calling Senator Biden by his first name … oh, “Joe” should have waited … what kind of respect is that to your VEEP pick? Obama is just a bit too confident and a bit too unrefined to even be considered. He keeps fighting against Palin as if she were a threat to his possiblity of winning. Obama is off the track.
Posted by: sam jackson | September 23, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
One day I’m going to become a liberal so I can selectively ignore facts about history of the Democratic party, blame everyone else for my bad judgement, never say I’m sorry for anything EVER, and conveniently blame the conservatives for causing the destruction of the universe.
A sure fire cure for liberalism is a steady job, paying taxes, and moving out of your parent’s basement.
Posted by: Craig | September 23, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
The mortgage industry was used for social engineering (just as the tax code has been used since it’s inception and look at the monster we have). If capitalism was allowed to operate unfettered by government intervention, the people NOT QUALIFIED for a loan would not have received them. Starting in the Clinton administration, the government wanted the poor and minorities to become home owners. The lending institutions were encouraged to lend the money, Fanny and Freddie had the backing and guarantee of the government. Remember the U235 homesfrom the 1970′s, designed to bring the poor into home ownership. It flopped as well. Five years ago, President Bush tried to get Congress to do something. Three years ago, John McCain brought the problem to Congress’ attention again. This is a monster Congress created and continues to feed.
Posted by: nuzicanuz | September 23, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
To Peter, the drive to deregulate the financial services industry, as well as the airlines and trucking industry, began under President Jimmy Carter. The Garn-St.Germain bill expanded asset powers for savings and loans. As I am sure you are aware, St.Germain was the Democrat Chair of the House Banking Committee who entered Congress a man of modest means and somehow left very wealth. Lastly, the Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2 administrations tried several times to stop Fannie and Freddie from building up huge portfolios, only to be blocked by Democrats.
Posted by: Ricardo | September 23, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am
“What has been clear during this entire past ten days is John McCain has not had clarity and a grasp on the situation,”
Obama’s plan
1. Sit back and see what real leaders do.
2. Obama and Morpheus go and commune with the Oracle.
3. The anointed one speaks, says nothing, and blames everyone else.
4. The media rejoices.
Posted by: Shannon Knox | September 23, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Palin is yesterday’s news.
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
I am asking Joe Biden to withdraw from VP with Obama. It will be a bad think for Joe to stay with Obama, who is a creepy politician.Joe must step down for any reason!!!It is not good for HIM and His political carrier!!!
We will love to see Him to do just that. He dont belong to this ticket, Obama dont respect even Joe, and Joe does not agree on Obamas dirty and ugly and disrespect toward anyone!!! Joe does not belong to this dirty Democratic gang of; Pelosi,Reid,Richardson,Reich,Dean.Johnson, Donna Brazile…
We will love You for, BE A MAN OF YOUR OWN WORD!!!
Posted by: I told You so... | September 23, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Verbal-
Wrong. Learn to read the news. This is not the result of Frannie and Freddie. This is the result of sub prime predatory lenders, who then sold their debt in bundles. Free market woo hoo. Trickle down economics trickled up from the sewers. Get a clue.
Posted by: james | September 23, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Another classic example of Obama voting “PRESENT”… I’d like to see this puppet actually take a stand on something. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a joke. He hangs to the rear on every issue, so in case the liberals go under – he’ll still remain afloat! Is this the kind of “CHANGE” you are looking for???
Posted by: McCain 2008 | September 23, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
The reason Obama thinks McCain isn’t clear is because he doesn’t understand. He can’t comprehend. He hasn’t been around long enough to “get it”. His inexperience is really showing now.
Posted by: IdiotObama | September 23, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
there you go again…to quote the greatest president this country has ever had!
Larry…..Katrina was a natural disaster!!! NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS JOB TO TELL PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF HARMS WAY!
That was the fault of Mayor Nagin and that idiot governor who by the way refused assistance till two days after the fact…..The Constitution forbids a President from moving into a state without state approval…..none of you libs want to mention that!!!!!
Why must you paint Bush as this person that is resposible for the ills of all? He is not……we have become the country of the unaccountable! Nagin should have stepped down for a terrible job getting his people out of harms way….and yet….the losers in New Orleans elected him again! At least the people in LA. had the sense to get rid of that governor!
Bush responded to a dire situation….you would have yelled had he sat by and done nothing about the terrorism! so in my book he was in a no win situation….oh and by the way….al gore lied when he said he would not have struck back after 911……he knows he would have and his own party would have done the same thing!!! get a life!
Posted by: Bryon | September 23, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Here’s why this Democrat and millions of others won’t vote for Obama, even with Hillary on the ticket:
“It’s the caucus corruption and voter intimidation, stupid!”
The mainstream media REFUSE to acknowledge firsthand accounts and copious evidence of voter intimidation and caucus rigging!
I live in the caucus state of Nevada, where the caucuses, especially here in Las Vegas, were a total sham.
The Obama camp, with the aid and abetment of ACORN and the MSM bias, pulled the same tactics on their own party that Rove perpetrated on us in 2000.
The only way to clean out the corruption in the party is for it to implode. Can’t wait!!!!! (And, of course, this won’t be printed because the media would rather foment discontent with the specious charge of racism.) Can’t wait for the media’s comeuppance, either! PUMA!
Posted by: Julianne Barbato, Las Vegas, Nuh-VAD-a | September 23, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
This all goes back to Greenspan trying to pop the stock market bubble by over-doing the rate hikes and not letting it take care of itself. The market was going to take care of itself had he just left it alone. Then the market crashes so what does he do?. . .frantic rate cuts to make up for what he’s already screwed up. He was always one step behind. If he had just left things alone and not tried to micromanage the rates this never would have happened. Not long after my gardner informed me that he had bought a home worth more than mine, I decided to short sell the homebuilders and financials, as this was the “no brainer” of the century.
Posted by: Dave B | September 23, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
This show judgement of Obama picking his VP
Posted by: adam | September 23, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
OBAMA IS NOTHING BUT A SCAM. HE’S BEEN EXPOSED AS SOMEONE WHOLLY UNQUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT.
Posted by: jamie | September 23, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Talk about a Republicon noise machine.
It’s a hoot reading the R-cons here, repeat the same talking points, over & over & over, etc, ad nauseum.
But the FACT is: The GOP has held the White House 28 of the last 40 years, including the last 8; nominated seven of the nine Supreme Court justices and held Congress for 12 of the last 14 years, including 6 of the last 8.
As for S.190, the bill regulating 2ndary mortgages, it’s a nice talking point, but Sen McCain only co-sponsored it, because he knew the GOP wouldn’t support it. Furthermore, if you know anything about S.190, it probably would have sped up the financial meltdown of the GSEs… it wouldn’t have protected them.
And the key to McCain’s hypocrisy on this, is that when Senator Hagel reintroduced the bill, as S.1100, McCain DIDN’T support that.
So… so much for the talking point, you’ve been told to parrot, and haven’t a clue what it was actually about.
If you’d actually like to understand what S.190 was about, read this analysis of its House companion bill…
Posted by: jon | September 23, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Does BO ever offer any ideas or specifics. Whenever he is challenged by his media friends, its always “Hold On (insert name)” and talk trash about Mccain. believe me he is no Bill Clinton!
Come on people considering BO, do you really think he is of any substance? If he gives empty answers at the debate , make an intelligent choice and not just vote for an empty shell.
Posted by: GR | September 23, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Democrats do nothing unless it helps their cause. They believe that the people they serve are stupid. Pelosi says she is going to give in to America’s need to drill for oil, a big part of our economic mess. When you study the bill, which she rammed thru congress practically overnight, it only allows drilling 100 plus miles off the coast which puts 85 percent of Americas known oil deposits off limits forever. Up till now the ban required a vote once a year. When a Democrat offers to help, you damn well better find out how much is going to cost you. Guaranteed, you are getting the short end of the deal. How’s this realte to Obama? He’s an empty suit. He reads a teleprompter written by Liberals behind the scenes. Liberals financed by mega-rich anti-american people like George soros. The day Democrats get control of all branches of government, free elections will end along with your freedom. As they have done in the past, they will abuse their power to make sure they never lose it again. I voted for Jimmy Carter, and although a lot of you people don’t remember the Carter years, they make Bush look like a freakin genius. Be careful what you vote for, your future is at stake. It’s not looking good for America and I think Obama 08 will be the final nail in the coffin. Just remember when a politician says he’s going to help you, he wants your vote. After he gets it, he will help himself to whatever you have left.
Posted by: Greg | September 23, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
After listening to all the Borat Obama lip lockers. I want another civil war so we can thin out the blue states a bit!
Posted by: eldee | September 23, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Sorry, but it is due to the de-regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the greed of the leaders of those organizations, Democrats and republicans alkie, the stupidity of the House and Senate NOT to see the issue clearly, AND the fact that BAD loans were forced on banks by the politics of Clinton and Democrats in order to ensure those with NO money could get loans for the American Dream. The news is one thing, pure fact is another.
Posted by: Lars | September 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Anybody notice how often Obama uses the words “Clear” and “clartity”. If you pay attention to just about every comment these words are present. Its not a stretch to say his vocabulary is “Bush league” yes pun intended.
Posted by: Brad | September 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Wow, Obama cited his experience at running his campaign as a major focal point of being qualified for being president. Not sure what anyone else is seeing, but it is appearing he can’t even do this as well.
Posted by: Kurt | September 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
McCain is running around like
a headless chicken offering
nothing worthwhile on the
economic crisis.
Fire the chairman of the SEC
he says. That’ll solve the
crisis.
How about impeaching Bush who
appointed the chairman?
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
As much as I loved Bill Clinton … I think will bring a larger scandal than Clinton and I don’t think it’s going to be a repeat of a cigar and dress. Obama is just too shady for me and he’s in too deep … he is snipping at his VP Biden .. Obama’s head is inflating .. someone please pop it. I can’t wait for the debate this week.
McCAIN | PALIN 08
Posted by: Suspira | September 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Can’t you see what is taking place here? Biden’s major gaffe a day is setting the stage for him to be removed from the ticket. They want it to look like Biden screwed up, and save the “I made a mistake” from Obama. Today Hillary came out with her opinion/comment on the economy…suddenly finding her own voice. Bill was on the View saying Hillary didn’t want to be Obama’s pick, to set the stage for a “surprise request”.
Just watch…
Posted by: gigi | September 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Obama is the LAST person that should complain about someone changing their positions. Obama changes his positions every time he opens his mouth.
He is a fraud.
Posted by: Chris C | September 23, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
I think Joe knows now that Obama is not qualified to be President, so he doing everything he can to help him “not get elected”.
Posted by: Andie | September 23, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
I know its been said on here before but it is absolutely SHOCKING that Obama would try to point the finger at Mccain saying
“I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that somebody like John McCain who for 26 years has been an advocate for deregulation, for 26 years has said the market is king and then starts going out there suggesting somehow that he’s a populist who’s been railing against Wall Street and regulation — that’s what drives people crazy about politics.”
Mccain helped push a bill that would put bank-like regulations on Fannie and Freddie back in 2005, after greenspan warned congress this could happen!!! The Dems fought so the bill would never even go to the vote. It is absolutely SICK that Dems are trying to twist this.
Posted by: nate | September 23, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Obama suddenly comes from heaven and saves the world… Get real, remember Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale and John Kerry? We need practical exprience and strong leaders in a dangerous world, as it is a world-wide problem.
Posted by: Joe_who | September 23, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
James, you can look away from the truth all you want, but the simple fact is that the Democrats were in the bag for F/F; what does that tell you? Do you really think that the lobby for F/F would really dump all that money into campaign coffers for NO REASON? Get a clue, they did it to protect their interests; the same as any lobby does. The telling fact is that the top recipients of the money were democrats; do you really think that the F/F lobby was paying the democrats to REGULATE them?
Common sense goes a long way…
Posted by: Verbal | September 23, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Uhhbama conveniently neglects to mention that John McCain pointed out these problems with Fannie and Freddie over two years ago – but the legislation to rein them in was KILLED by the DEMOCRATS in a party line vote. But what should we expect from the guy who continually mischaracterizes and lies about his opponent while his cronies in the media cover up for him?
Posted by: James | September 23, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
I agree 100% with dianermarx. I listed to Bill and Hillary and tried to convince myself to vote for Obama as I am a democrat. I am a African American male, 47 yo, veteran, Bronze Star holder and I cannot vote for Obama nor McCain. One reason for my indecision is I listen to Black talk radio and if you here some of the vile comments made by 2 particular wannbe talk show host it make that drug addict Limbaugh sound like Mary Poppins. Politics should not be about personal attacks on people families. Yes i will sit this one out and deal with the outcome. Yes my heart hurts because I can’t support the first viable black nominee but I think more of me will hurt if he gets in office. The only way I would have voted for him is that he had chosen my candidate Hillary, and then I would not have been voting for him I would have been voting for her. Call me a sell out if you like but in the end if Obama is elected you will be sold out. I honestly believe this.
Posted by: Marvin | September 23, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Watch what happens over the next couple of weeks. This is all just the setup to get Biden (another mistake in judgement) out and get Hillary back in. Biden knows it was a mistake for the party and he’s more than willing to fake disagreement to make the “adjustment”. The illness thing got leaked and now they have to create another excuse for making a last-minute switch.
Posted by: Spiker123 | September 23, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Obama wants to do for Health Care and Business in general what he and Democrats urged be done for Fannie and Fredddie.
He wants to push SOCIAL JUSTICE and have the TAX PAYER pay for the whole thing by forcing bad business practices on both private and public organizations (as was done to Fannie and Freddie) that put them in peril and ultimately in the hands of central government.
Why when the “give-away” mentality of government oversight destroyed Fannie and Freddie would you ever want the government in charge of more?
” To tranfer from those with means to those without means”. :Karl Marx
” It’s just being a good neighbor to take more money from a richer guy to give it to a poorer guy” : Barack Obama
i.e. Part of the SOCIAL JUSTICE PROGRAM
Posted by: Al Kelly | September 23, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
and yet we have another:
“This is the result of sub prime predatory lenders, who then sold their debt in bundles”
james….who gave the predatory lenders their marching orders!!!!! Democrats in Congress trying to capture control in 2004 and 2006! Freddie and Fannie and partial to the Democratic party and changes in lending practices allowed the preditory lenders to ooze out of the sewer!!! Freddie and Fannie have paid well over a million dollars into Obama campaign! That was the plan….get subprime lending out and those that bought homes would support the party that made it happen…..talk about abusing the minorities in this country…..who are the biggest group of foreclosure victims….the Dems constituants!!!!!!! james get a clue!
Posted by: Bryon | September 23, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Obama represents the Chicago-Daley political machine. Some years ago I met two people who worked for the machine in Chicago. They thought it perfectly OK to fake votes for the machine. Just imagine how many votes were fraudulent when O ran for the Senate.
Posted by: Richard | September 23, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
james 11:16–you must be talking about the millionares in senate and house tose very intelligent whose intelligence brought us the current wall street meltdown–you are obviously a lying hypocrite working for the obama campaign–guess what liberal are considered absolute morons by conservatives–you cant think for yourself and believe whatever you hear in the media–pigs eating fodder..now the stupidist person is he who thinks another a fool–liberals have no moarl understanding
Posted by: cisc | September 23, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
That is why I dont watch”THE VIEW”, because they are so fony!!!
You can tell who Barbara Walters dont like, but sure She loves Michelle and Obama. The way She approach any one!!!McCain.Bill, did You see how She welcome McCain??? Theonly nice people on this show are “two woman: woppie and this blondie who has fight with Rosie(both were right). B.Walter show Her dark side and especjaly on TV She should behave as mature, as people in her position and inteligence!!!
Posted by: myrights8 | September 23, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Wow, Obama cited his experience at running his campaign as a major focal point of being qualified for being president. Not sure what anyone else is seeing, but it is appearing he can’t even do this as well.
Posted by: Kurt | September 23, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Belle:
You are simply not looking at the fact. Both paries are very much to blame for the financial crisis. In fact deregualtion began under Carter and was fostered during the Clinton years, and exacerbated by the Dodd’s of the world clamoring for access to housing for those who cannot affored it, only now to come back and suugest we give more aid to thos who cannot afford those homes so in a couple of years they can again default on the same loan. Calling Palin names helps no one, and in fact it is apparent you know little about her, only enough to use the tired anti-Bushe rhetoric absent of any facts. At the end of the day we should realize the real idiots are us, as we will continue to send the same morons back to fix what they broke, as they continue to be bought off by the ones like it broken.
Posted by: David S | September 23, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Those of you blaming the Dems for minority housing should check out the news on Rick Davis’s (McCain Campaign Advisor) who had a position on the board for Fannie and Freddie a few years ago. In his speech, he advocates to increase the mortgages to minorities because that would be a great market to “reap rewards”. So, don’t blame the mortgage crisis on the Dems. It amazes me that bloggers just repeat what they are told without even doing any research!
Posted by: NC Female | September 23, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Obama is a Socialist who wants federal control of every aspect of life in America. Biden is a fraud. Both of them lack good judgment all the time!
Posted by: Delores Carter | September 23, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
fyi-
liberalism and free market ideology are NOT oppositional terms. A. Smith was a Liberal. again, Conservatives go to the library.
also, NuziCanuz says, ” If capitalism was allowed to operate unfettered by government intervention, the people NOT QUALIFIED for a loan would not have received them.”
Name one place in the world where Capitalism is “unfettered” by government. If captalism was antithetical to government, you would not have treasury bonds or currency, the internet, highways, etc. Go back to school
Posted by: james | September 23, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Bush/Cheney, McCain/Palin:
wrecking balls and unguided
missiles
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
GREG … Magnificent post! So good, I will yield my space here to you. Do another one.
Posted by: Rod Miller | September 23, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
What???? John McCain’s campaign advisor received over $2 Million from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae over 5 years to help pass DEREGULATION laws???? Careful what you wish for (or pay for)….
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Come on folks its time for Change we all know this. The days of a center right America are over, Conservatism is dead, Enough with this neocon nonsense. Embrace the Change. Obama is the protege of Saul Alinsky, he is a Marxist socialist that wants to Get in your face if you disagree with his leftist methods. Get on onboard or get out of America its way past time for progressivism.
Posted by: Tom | September 23, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Look at Obama’s record.
He’s been an idiot and
He’s still an idiot
As far a sound national policy is concerned.
Posted by: Wally | September 23, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
The current market meltdown would not have occurred if the Democrats had not blocked Senate bill 109 in 2005 to regulate Fannie & Freddie. And Sen McCain was a cosponsor of that bill. The Democrats caused the current market & housing problems by blocking this bill and now they want to blame some one else! That is so typical.
Posted by: mike | September 23, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Republican Bush appointed Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson (former CEO of floundering Goldman Sachs) aka “Mr.
Risk”, believes “we the people” will bend over and write him a blank check for $700,000,000,000 with the following
demands:
“Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.” ———
WOW!!!! THAT’S WORSE THAN A HALLIBURTON NO-BID CONTRACT FOLKS!!! THIS REAKS OF AN ECONOMIC COUP!!! SO THE REPUBLICANS EXPECT US TO REWARD THEIR DEREGULATION INCOMPETENCE WITH A NATION-KILLING BLANK CHECK??? THE AUDACITY IS JAW DROPPING!!!! VOTE ALL THE BUMS OUT!!!
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
In the last few days, OBAMA and Biden have disagreed on major issues. My theory, these are staged disagreements. The OBAMA campaign is about to HOODWINK again!!! Ain’t falling for it.
Democrats for McCain/Palin
Posted by: bpower | September 23, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
It’s sad to say, but both parties are so self serving that neither can be counted on to fix this mess. Power corrupts, and Washington D.C. is a wreck because of it. Find the best 3rd party candidate you can and let’s send a message that we’re tired of this partisan crap…
Posted by: BornRepublican | September 23, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Go McCain-Palin! Go away!
Go Bush-Cheney! Go Away!
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
WHAT IS TRULY CRITICAL FOR THIS NATION TO UNDERSTAND HOWEVER IS MCSAME’S
ECONOMIC POLICY – DEREGULATION. THE SAME DEREGULATION THAT CAUSED THIS ECONOMIC MELTDOWN AND THE RESULTANT
$1,000,000,000,000 BAILOUT. SOME ESTIMATES PUT THIS BAILOUT AT POTENTIALLY $3,000,000,000,000. ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH BASIC MACRO-ECONOMICS KNOWS THAT THIS WILL COMPLETELY TANK THE DOLLAR AND DRIVE INFLATION AND OIL PRICES THROUGH THE STRATOSPHERE!!!! THANKS JOHN “DEREGULATOR” MCSAME!!! THANKS MCSAME ECONOMIC ADVISOR PHIL GRAMM, WHOSE LEGISLATION DIRECTLY RESULTED IN BANKRUPTING AMERICA FROM A SUPERPOWER TO A THIRD WORLD BANANA REPUBLIC!!! S&L MELTDOWN, ENRON, THE
END OF WALL STREET – ALL A PRODUCT OF MCSAME’S AND PHIL GRAMM’S ECONOMIC POLICIES!!!! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Obama is clueless. 80 percent of the economists believe that Obama will make our country worse with his belief in raising taxes and government regulations.
Obama, may be smart, but he is not expereinced in foreign affairs or on basic eceonomic principles. He has never run company. He does not understand that raising payroll taxes cripples small businesses His only executive experience is running is own presidential campaign –if you can even call that experience…he hirse 300 advisers to do that.
He also cannot come up with anything intelligent to say if it is not on a teleprompter. He once said their are over 57 states in America. Another tie he said that “america is a great country and we have to change it!”
What the hell does that mean.
Posted by: Jenn | September 23, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
“So… so much for the talking point, you’ve been told to parrot, and haven’t a clue what it was actually about.
If you’d actually like to understand what S.190 was about, read this analysis of its House companion bill…”
Not one bit of your post knocks down the fact that McCain,Bush,and many Republicans tried to address this problem and were blocked every time by democrats on the take.
Keep spinning with your “opinions” that
passing these reforms would have made it
worse,you can’t get around the facts.
The facts are democrats took a sh!t load of money from Fannie/Freddie,blocked any
attempts at regulation,and have the same
people that caused this mess as advisors
on their Presidential campaign.
Obama the failed community organizer is
not fit to lead.
Posted by: Baxter Greene | September 23, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
WHAT IS TRULY CRITICAL FOR THIS NATION TO UNDERSTAND HOWEVER IS MCSAME’S
ECONOMIC POLICY – DEREGULATION. THE SAME DEREGULATION THAT CAUSED THIS ECONOMIC MELTDOWN AND THE RESULTANT
$1,000,000,000,000 BAILOUT. SOME ESTIMATES PUT THIS BAILOUT AT POTENTIALLY $3,000,000,000,000. ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH BASIC MACRO-ECONOMICS KNOWS THAT THIS WILL COMPLETELY TANK THE DOLLAR AND DRIVE INFLATION AND OIL PRICES THROUGH THE STRATOSPHERE!!!! THANKS JOHN “DEREGULATOR” MCSAME!!! THANKS MCSAME ECONOMIC ADVISOR PHIL GRAMM, WHOSE LEGISLATION DIRECTLY RESULTED IN BANKRUPTING AMERICA FROM A SUPERPOWER TO A THIRD WORLD BANANA REPUBLIC!!! S&L MELTDOWN, ENRON, THE
END OF WALL STREET – ALL A PRODUCT OF MCSAME’S AND PHIL GRAMM’S ECONOMIC POLICIES!!!! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Hmmmmmmmmm could it be we are thinking about changing our running mate? I wonder who B O would pick..maybe some female? Ya think.
Posted by: JLD | September 23, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Barneys Rubble
he scary thing about today’s financial crisis is that Barney Frank and the democrats are the key players in the fix because their majority in the House of Representatives and the Senate. In a story in the New York Times from (9/11/2003) we find out why?
“The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.”
“The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken.”
So what did Barney Frank say or do 5 years ago? Remember this is when the problem was much more easily fixed and a crisis could have been averted lets go back to the 5 year old NY Times article.
“Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
I wonder when someone will ask Barney Franks why he couldn’t see the crisis coming when the Bush administration they hate so much tried to fix it years ago and he fought it? What we are seeing today is truly Barney’s Rubble.
Posted by: Dave Fredrick | September 23, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
no more neocons—are you kidding the democrates are equally if not more to blame–you obviously need to get a grip–it is both parties who have planned this fleecing for years
Posted by: cisc | September 23, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
I know its been said on here before but it is absolutely SHOCKING that Obama would try to point the finger at Mccain saying
“I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that somebody like John McCain who for 26 years has been an advocate for deregulation, for 26 years has said the market is king and then starts going out there suggesting somehow that he’s a populist who’s been railing against Wall Street and regulation — that’s what drives people crazy about politics.”
Mccain helped push a bill that would put bank-like regulations on Fannie and Freddie back in 2005, after greenspan warned congress this could happen!!! The Dems fought so the bill would never even go to the vote. It is absolutely SICK that Dems are trying to twist this.
Posted by: nate | September 23, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
This was just another example of the swaying in the wind that swishy Obama loves to do. “Joe should have waited” = “Joe should have waited for me to tell him what to think after I’ve been told what to think by my handlers”
This guy is nothing but an empty suit.
And anyone who blames this current mortgage and financial crisis on the current administration or the people who run McCain’s campaign are ignorant and ill-informed. This problem started long before these guys ever got power, when the Clintons decided that they were going to use the power of regulation to ensure that banks loaned money to lower income folks.
Educate yourself, it won’t hurt much. I promise.
Posted by: BigJohnson | September 23, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
There is plenty of blame to go around for everyone on this. However, why do we have these banking committees if the guys in charge of them do nothing, say nothing and take donation money from them? I know Bush pushed for housing and used it as talking point almost every speech when he talked about the economy. Why didn’t either Dodd or Frank do anything????? Exactly are their jobs there? Apparently since Frank can’t run a prostitution ring out of his house anymore he doesn’t care about housing. Obama is currect that we need change. I bet if he took some swipes at those two he would get an uptick in the polls. But the agent of change is more concerned with partisanship. Doesn’t sound like change to me. Say what you want about Biden but I think that he has a heck of a lot more credibility than Obama.
Posted by: chris | September 23, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Bush has screwed this country in every possible way, economically, politically and security wise. McCain was cheerleading Bush all the time. He proved very ineffective when it comes to foreign policy, his supposed field of strength. He doesn’t know where Spain is, he thinks Iraq/Pakistan share border, he thinks Yugoslavia still exists, he thinks Putin is the President of Germany and he doesn’t know the difference between Sunni and Shia. As for his campaign, he proved what a sleazy fellow he is. Everybody knows (including his own supporters) that Palin is the biggest joke on this nation enacted by McCain. Then he thinks the economy is fundementally strong and since then, people actually lost track of his postition on various issues. He has become a grand old clown. Let’s not forget that he doesn’t have any EXECUTIVE experience. He is also on record that mayors and Governors doesn’t have enough qualifications to become President (Bush & palin are is living proof). He doesn’t know how many houses he own and he also own 13 cars, some of them foreign. Then he refuses to meet the press like this is a kingdom and he is the prince about to be sworn in. He marries a rich hot head and dumps his wife. Then, Keating 5. His economic advisor Phil Gramm is reponsible for the mess we are in today and he continues to advise McCain. Almost all his campaign members are lobbyists for the same institutes that melted down recently. As for McCain himself, he doesn’t care about the country that much. McCain is comeplete nuts. He just wants to get into the white house and have his own war, a new war (Iraq and Afghanistan are Bush’s wars) by signing the war declaration, execute it and see the show from the comforts of the white house. That’s a little game corrupt men of his age enjoy and that is what he is dying for. On the other hand, we have Obama is young, fresh in ideas and a guy who displayed calm, rational thinking, good grasp on issues facing this nation, honest and running a descent campaign despite heavy odds. He admitted Rezko was a mistake. That is far better than not cooperating with the investigation like Palin. He views on economy and national security makes comeplete sense. He is the real American who worked hard his way to this position. That’s the dream of an average American. McCain gains is our loss. Another Republican term will be disaster. There will be no return back.
Posted by: RJ2008 | September 23, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Obama not only is backpedaling in his own way on this issue, but let’s not forget that Barack Obama attend a church that preaches hatred against white people. Go research ‘black liberation theology’ for yourself to learn this. As a person of mixed race, I ask why is it okay for him to have done that? Why would anyone want to go to a church where hatred is preached against any racial group??
Posted by: Michele | September 23, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Obama must have mis-spoken again… hahaha
Posted by: chance taylor | September 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
The middle class are responsible for this crap. PAY YOUR BILLS and maybe this doesn’t happen. HOW ABOUT them apples. Sorry whining people. Shut up and pay your bills!
Posted by: James T | September 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
@ttn David S
“Calling Palin names helps no one, and in fact it is apparent you know little about her, only enough to use the tired anti-Bushe rhetoric absent of any facts.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
I just hope, that Hillary wont exept Obamas offer(If there be one from HIM), Hillary should stay away from this ugly man…
Posted by: myrights8 | September 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Does anyone else on this forum notice the intense fear of the left as the election grows closer and closer? They are pulling out all the stops; including the ready-made excuse of race for the reason that the election was lost.
When Obama dumps Biden, it will be proof-positive that they know it is over. It will be a hail mary pass for another finished democratic campaign.
That will be three in a row dems; you cannot tell me you don’t have the nagging suspicion that Obama is about to free fall. It is all but over; enjoy the show until November 4th, and get ready to pout over another 4 years of republicans in the white house. You pinned your ‘hopes for change’ on an empty suit. Should have gone with Hillary; oh, thats right, the DNC couldn’t bear the thought of having a woman in the white house…
Posted by: Verbal | September 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
You can’t do any worse
than Bush-Cheney in
foreign policy or the
economy. Iraq war and
the meltdown on Wall
Street are your proof.
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Obama has become a caricature of the kind of candidate he said he was going to be. His attacks on McCain’s record on deregulation of the financial industry are flat lies. But don’t believe me. Read the editorial in the Washington Post which took him to the woodshed for what he has been saying about McCain. The Post pointed out, among other things, that in 2006, it was McCain “who pushed for stronger regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – while Mr. Obama was notably silent” and went on to say, “…Mr. Obama’s attack does not give a fair reading of the McCain record.” Enuf said. Obama has obviously decided to say anything to win. Biden was just being honest which gets you into hot water with the Obama campaign
Posted by: PVG | September 23, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
WHAT IS TRULY CRITICAL FOR THIS NATION TO UNDERSTAND HOWEVER IS MCSAME’S
ECONOMIC POLICY – DEREGULATION. THE SAME DEREGULATION THAT CAUSED THIS ECONOMIC MELTDOWN AND THE RESULTANT
$1,000,000,000,000 BAILOUT. SOME ESTIMATES PUT THIS BAILOUT AT POTENTIALLY $3,000,000,000,000. ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH BASIC MACRO-ECONOMICS KNOWS THAT THIS WILL COMPLETELY TANK THE DOLLAR AND DRIVE INFLATION AND OIL PRICES THROUGH THE STRATOSPHERE!!!! THANKS JOHN “DEREGULATOR” MCSAME!!! THANKS MCSAME ECONOMIC ADVISOR PHIL GRAMM, WHOSE LEGISLATION DIRECTLY RESULTED IN BANKRUPTING AMERICA FROM A SUPERPOWER TO A THIRD WORLD BANANA REPUBLIC!!! S&L MELTDOWN, ENRON, THE
END OF WALL STREET – ALL A PRODUCT OF MCSAME’S AND PHIL GRAMM’S ECONOMIC POLICIES!!!! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
What would an Obama far left Presidency look like.
For the administration of justice, look to Nifong’s handling of the Duke lacrosse debacle.
Politically, just imagine Cook County corruption at the national level.
Bill Ayers will show the way in education policy.
I don’t think that the American people are ready to turn this great Republic into a Marxist state.
Posted by: robert bluejacket | September 23, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
People who are blaming McCain for the enconomic crisis are just not reading the papers. John McCain had nothing to do with this and, in fact, tried to stop it back in 2005 but no one in the Democratic Congress wanted to listen.
—————————–
In 2005, the REPUBLICANS controlled Congress, not the Democrats.
But don’t let facts get in your way.
Posted by: Trith Hurts the GOP | September 23, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
This was just another example of the swaying in the wind that swishy Obama loves to do. “Joe should have waited” = “Joe should have waited for me to tell him what to think after I’ve been told what to think by my handlers”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
They can not relate some information that has contributed to this economic crisis, and they needed to continue to stall. For instance, how many Democrats have you heard relate that the standards for home mortgages were significantly reduced during the Clinton Administration? The price of oil has certainly influenced the economy and which party has been consistently against drilling here at home? When President Bush first wanted to place more stringent controls on Fannymae and Freddiemae, wasn’t it the Democrats that voted his plan down?
Perhaps, Joe should have waited… or maybe Obama should have waited before selecting Joe as his running mate! Or maybe even better, both Obama and Biden should have stayed in the Senate. By the way what exactly is Obama’s position on this issue? Then again, what is his position on most issues?
Posted by: Rank | September 23, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Obama keeps using the deregulation pitch and yes McCain is for deregulation but not when it comes to the Banking and other Financial Services Industry. ABC News, Jack Tapper said in an article stating that Obama is spinning on McCain’s deregulation when it comes to the Banking and Financial Services Industry. Obama himself voted down a bill that was cosponsored by 3 Republicans in 2006 to regulate Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae.
McCain’s bill to the US Senate:May 25, 2006:
Mr President
Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
So Matt Lauer should have had his facts straight and challenged Obama on that.
Posted by: Leed | September 23, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
LOL the democrat comedy show continues!
Posted by: Steven | September 23, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
The Republican ticket:
A computer-illiterate and
an all-around illiterate.
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
I thought Obama wanted Biden because he spoke his mind. Now that Biden spoke his mind, Obama is saying that he should’ve waited. Obama is a fish. Put him on the counter top and he’ll flip flop around.
Posted by: BT | September 23, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
The joke is that the system has not been a free market since at least FDR. The meltdown is the result of government meddling and is not the result of deregulation! (Deregulation=Freedom)
Posted by: Brian | September 23, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Obama is on a downhill spiral.
He’s just another politician saying
whatever he needs to to get votes.
I don’t trust him and will not vote
for him.
The democrats have been running Washington for two years. They hold the checkbook and now the spending and lack of intelligence has our country going
down the drain. All they do is blame
Bush when they control our tax money
and make the laws and oversee regulations.
Posted by: Reilly | September 23, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
October Surprise for the Dems….Hillary Clinton as the VP due to Joe Biden having some kind of illness. Brain damage or the spewing of uncontrollable words from the mouth….Anyway you look at it the Dems are fishing and now they need to switch bait to catch the prize. I am not going to let my country be hijacked by socialism!!!!!
Posted by: Will | September 23, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
The right man for the job is not on either ticket. . .who do you want in charge of fixing an economic train wreck. . . .Mitt Romney, that’s who. It’s exactly what he’s been doing privately for many years, and how he’s made his fortune.
Posted by: Dave B | September 23, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
sounds like obama wants to get rid joe
Posted by: santak | September 23, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but good for Matt Lauer. It would have been easier–and would have earned him more media points–to let Obama-Biden go free on this issue. Instead, he challenged them, and in my mind that gives him some credibility. He probably won’t wait long to throw that credibility away, but at least he has some for now.
Posted by: Gary S. | September 23, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
And this nitwit Obama might win? You have to be kidding me. If he along with his fellow dems can’t get Chicago under control considering its murder capital USA, how in the heck will he be able to deal with a guy like Putin? America has sunk into the depths of depravity because of people like Bush, Dodd, Leahey, Byrd, Schumer, Cheney, Obama, Kerry, DeLay, Cunningham, Ney and the list goes on and on. Given the choice of the one I trust the most it would have to be McCain but not by much. If anything I think Putin will have a field day testing Obama if he wins, I really do. And for you hunters lock up your guns because Obama is coming for them. Of course he won’t go after the guns held by criminals in Chicago. Thank you Mr. Bush for giving us Obama you cowardly nitwit.
Posted by: Dix Handley | September 23, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
“Follow Me I’m right behind You”. The Democrats continue to make this way too easy for the Republicans. This flip flopping is the same thing thing that that got the last elitist Democratic candidate in trouble… Kerry ring a bell anybody?
Second, the continued attacks on Sarah Palin are doing nothing but hurting the dem’s so by all means keep it up! The fact that you’re talking about Palin proves the fact that against McCain Barack doesn’t have the “goods”. Face it the DNC screwed up royally by advising the selection of ole “plugs” Biden.
See you guys in 2012
Posted by: Steve | September 23, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Brian:
No doubt! Freedom is what it’s all about. To hell with these socialists!
God Bless America
God Bless The Republican Party
God Bless A McCain Palin Victory
Posted by: George | September 23, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
I know its been said on here before but it is absolutely SHOCKING that Obama would try to point the finger at Mccain saying
“I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that somebody like John McCain who for 26 years has been an advocate for deregulation, for 26 years has said the market is king and then starts going out there suggesting somehow that he’s a populist who’s been railing against Wall Street and regulation — that’s what drives people crazy about politics.”
Mccain helped push a bill that would put bank-like regulations on Fannie and Freddie back in 2005, after greenspan warned congress this could happen!!! The Dems fought so the bill would never even go to the vote. It is absolutely SICK that Dems are trying to twist this.
Posted by: nate | September 23, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
“Joe should have waited as well”…wait for what? For the poll to see if the answer should be Yes or No? That is not leadership at all. No wonder Obama loves to vote “present” instead of a straight Yay or Nay.
Posted by: tax payer | September 23, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
I don’t support Obama, but lets cut out this baloney about him being a Muslim. He is wrong on so many of the issues, we can go after him on more substantial issues then false rumors about his religion.
Posted by: thomeone | September 23, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
While McCain flails,
Palin keeps crashing.
The Republican ticket
is on life support.
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
He should have waited for someone else to make a decision before opening his mouth. That is how Obama will lead(follow)
Posted by: Mack | September 23, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Bush and Obama have much in common, including being gutless figureheads for unseen cabals.
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
What drives me crazy is Obama’s fake outrage at McCain. If Obama was so terribly outraged by McCain, and what he calls old politics (with Kerry, Biden, and Kennedy by his side), why didn’t he show leadership as a senator? He seemed to get bored with the Senate pretty fast, and that role could well have been one of leadership — maybe after a few months as president, he’ll get bored again and run for God.
What a terribly untrustworthy man.
Posted by: Tracy | September 23, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Republican Bush appointed Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson (former CEO of floundering Goldman Sachs) aka “Mr.
Risk”, believes “we the people” will bend over and write him a blank check for $700,000,000,000 with the following
demands:
“Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.” ——— WOW!!!! THAT’S WORSE THAN A HALLIBURTON NO-BID CONTRACT FOLKS!!! THIS REAKS OF AN ECONOMIC COUP!!! SO THE REPUBLICANS EXPECT US TO REWARD THEIR DEREGULATION INCOMPETENCE WITH A NATION-KILLING BLANK CHECK??? THE AUDACITY IS JAW DROPPING!!!! VOTE ALL THE BUMS OUT!!!
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Andy has the regulatory attempt timeline down pat! Great job Andy!
see Posted by: Andy | Sep 23, 2008 11:14:06 AM
Posted by: McCain! | September 23, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Maybe he should have waited for the tele-prompter to tell him what to say, since it seems no-one in the Obama/Biden ticket can think for themselves.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
What???? John McCain’s campaign advisor received over $2 Million from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae over 5 years to help
pass DEREGULATION laws???? Careful what you wish for (or pay for)….
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
While Obama waits Rome is Burning!!!
He still has NOT come out with his plan. He doesn’t have one. It is VERY clear that the grown up dems on the hill are dealing with the situation.
Meanwhile, Obama the child, the party puppet is out there talking in generalities for soundbytes.
Obama has no freakin’ clue where he is in this or what we should do!
Posted by: DirOfTheObv | September 23, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
jenn–how true what does intelligence have to do with integrity or success. instincts also. intelligence breeds indecision especially when based on false assumptions or indoctrination–and does not mean freethinker–obama uses his intelligence to probagate a lie especially when morally bancrupt
Posted by: cisc | September 23, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
This is becoming way too easy for McCain! Flip flopping got the last elitist in trouble…. Kerry ring a bell with anybody??
Second, the attacks on Palin continue to only strengthen the republican ticket so by all means keep it up. As far as keeping Sarah away from the press who cares she’s not running for president! The press doesn’t even travel with Biden, it’s about McCain and Obama.
Better Luck in 2012
Posted by: Steve | September 23, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
All the Neocrats are able to do is point the finger and give the old “well…look what he did” comments.
What solutions have Democrats actually proposed to any of the pressing issues on the table? For example…Pelosi wanted to wait and see what happens with the financial troubles until after the election…ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Or, consider the lifting of the offshore drilling ban; 50 miles or more offshore (where there’s no oil by the way) So the Democratic controlled congress is telling us it’s now OK to drill…but if you’re in south florida…you have to drill closer to CUBA than our own coast… are you all dilusional. “Oh look…we lifted the ban because we care…we listen to the American people…” YEAH RIGHT! If you want to lift it…LIFT IT…otherwise shut up and let the knowledgable people in Government make some decisions…
It seems that the Democrats have become pretty good at sitting back and letting the everyone else come up with real solutions…then point out where they disagree… but no real solutions themselves.
I can’t wait until McCain gets a 10 point swing after the debates… I want to see Senator Obama think for himself and answer questions on the spot instead of having a teleprompter….
Posted by: Dan | September 23, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
1. Good for Lauer (in this situation) for having what the majority of journalist do not have, to ask the Orator a hard question.
2. As for the Orator’s comment,”No, hold on a second Matt,” Obama said. “I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that somebody like John McCain who for 26 years has been an advocate for deregulation, for 26 years has said the market is king”, Orator, what drives me crazy is just hot air, pompous politicans….YOU!
Posted by: Newsman | September 23, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Quote:”THE SAME DEREGULATION THAT CAUSED THIS ECONOMIC MELTDOWN AND THE RESULTANT $1,000,000,000,000 BAILOUT. SOME ESTIMATES PUT THIS BAILOUT AT POTENTIALLY $3,000,000,000,000.”
This much you got right. Clinton deregulated
the banking world in 1999. Thereafter,
Congressional Democrats and the National
Homebuilding lobbyists, fought off the Bush plan
in 2003. (“New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae”-9/11/03 The New
York Post). “The Bush administration today recommended the most significant
regulatory overhaul in the housing finance
since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.”
The bill failed, because Barney Frank and
Congressional Dems scuttled it. Now, we
know why. Dodd, Frank, Jamie Gorelick were
using it as petty cash. Ignoring the mounting
problems. “”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any
kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of
Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee.
”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is
on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable
housing.”
These are the culprits.
Posted by: Lulu Jones | September 23, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
What???? John McCain’s campaign advisor received over $2 Million from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae over 5 years to help
pass DEREGULATION laws???? Careful what you wish for (or pay for)….
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Joe Biden attack dog -that lasted all of two or three days didn’t it?
Posted by: geevill | September 23, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Why do advisors keep having to explain what McCain/Palin “REALLY” meant when they say something?
“The fundimentals of the economy are sound” = Americans have a glorious work ethic
“She did not take any earmarks” = She did take earmarks, more per capita than any other Gov in America, but they were less than Alaska took the year before.
“I cannot in good conscience support the Bush tax cuts” = I actually support the Bush tax cuts
“It is critical that we do not allow the government to interefre with a women’s right to make decisions about her body” = Roe v Wade should be reversed.
“I said thanks but no thanks” = I backed down from my original support and finally said no thanks to the bridge after it died in Congress, but yes to keeping the money
“You mean his world view????” = I really know everything about the Bush doctrine, I just needed clarification to fully respond to the question
“I’ve been to Ireland” = My plane stopped and refueled in Ireland
“I’ve been to Iraq” = I could see I Iraq from a TV in Alaska.
“She has national security credentials” = She can see another country from a remote island in Alaska
And the list goes on.
Posted by: How About Say What You Mean for a "Change" | September 23, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Follow the money. Why would low-paid MCCALLA RAYMER firm attorney’s donate tens of thousands of dollars to out-of-state pollcats loke Tim Johnson Tom Daschle John Rockefeller Pomeroy,Sandlin, Bentssen, Reed, Cantwell, Weygand Shaheen Feinstein Sarbanes Leshaw Rangel except to get favors from Fannie Mae and Freddie MAc
Posted by: BigD | September 23, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
You can always tell when the Repub.Neo-con are running scared,They always knock the other canidate and anyone who supports him.All these vile remarks doesn’t do anything but raise your blood pressure.Anyway please wake up and smell the coffee,McCaim will never win the Election because he and Palin scare the you know what out of People with all their Tripe.Barack will win this Election easly,Mark my words.
Posted by: butch-40 | September 23, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
to the numerous nasty comments posted here…go ahead and revel in anonymous internet postings, cretins…come the first week of november obama will be elected the next president of the united states…and the first *real* president this country has had in many a year…and you all will find yourselves in the dustbin of history, where u belong.
Posted by: callmehussein | September 23, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Can’t Obama offer even one original thought? I’m sick of hearing the ’26 years’ mantra. This guy dived into presidential politics without thinking he’d have to actually do anything but smile and wave to his adoring fan base. Now he’s faced with the possibility of having to take control of a really nasty situation — and he hasn’t got a clue! He thought he could sashay in like Bill Clinton and write his third memoir. Who is this man, and do you really want him teamed with Pelosi and Reid controlling our future interests?
Posted by: Tbucket | September 23, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Matt Lauer? Lol.. yeah right. Journalism at its’ finest.
Biden? Worst mistake Obama made. And I believe it will cost him the election. If Biden was smart he’d offer to bow out so Obama could pick another candidate (and NOT Hillarity).
My .02.
Posted by: VoterX | September 23, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Quote: “In 2005, the REPUBLICANS controlled Congress, not the Democrats.
But don’t let facts get in your way.”
Neither party has controlled the Senate in a long time because of this stupid “60 vote” nonsense. Nothing happens in the Senate unless 60 Senators agree. In 2005, there were NOT 60 Republicans, thus Democrats had the power to block anything McCain proposed, even if all other Republicans agreed with him.
So, the first posters assertion that Democrats in Congress thwarted John McCain’s efforts to fix Fannie and Freddie before it got to this is absolutely correct.
Posted by: Jerry | September 23, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
my words: correction-The paper with that
article (“New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae”) was the New York
Times, not the source given in my reply.
Posted by: lulu Jones | September 23, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Why are there no hearings or investigations on this crisis ?
Because the Democrats are the ones behind the collapse.
If it were the Republicans there would have been hearings and investigations last week.
Time to get Pelosi and Reid the hell out of there, ever since they took over the problems started.
Posted by: Mike Nowicki | September 23, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Think about it. It’s scary.
A computer-illiterate
McCain in charge of a
14-trillion dollar economy.
You want real scary?
Hotheaded and unstable McCain
with his finger on the button.
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Even Biden can’t stand the hypocrisy of BO’s floundering. I expect Him to spontaneously vomit at His next campaign stop. Nice to see that Joe Biden loves America and knows what an unmitigated disaster that BO would be. Joe Biden is just too ‘real’ for His (or BO’s) Own good.
Posted by: ripster24007 | September 23, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
There wasn’t enough time for poll results on the bail out to be reviewed. How could you possibly expect a definitive answer from Obama until he sees the polls?
Posted by: Dave B | September 23, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
I said no bailout for anybody. Let the folks who are stupid enough to buy houses they can’t afford and the bankers who are stupid enough to loan out the money suffer their “economic hardship” the way common sense, normal people like me have to deal with everyday. As for me, my house is paid off, and I’m stocked with ammunition, water and canned food enough to last me for years. Let the free market be free even if it is free falling. That will teach all these stupid people and our stupid government a lesson.
Posted by: Mad Taxpayer | September 23, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
You want real entertainment? Try guessing what part of the democratic platform the libs are going to blame on this failed election?
The last two elections saw the demise of gun control and anti-religious fervor. Before that, the homeless were tossed under the bus; what will it be this time?
The left will never cut lose of the real loser in their platform; the abortion issue; what will be next?
Posted by: Verbal | September 23, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Hey. Some people are saying the Blue Cool-Aid is poisoned. It’s not poisoned, it’s just bad Cool-Aid. It’s poorly thought-out. The Blue Cool-Aid isn’t poison, it’s just BAD COOL-AID.
“John McCain is a De-regulator!!!!!”
2006: John McCain signs on to a bi-partisan bill for greater oversight and regulation of Freddie and Fannie. The bill is killed by democrats, having recieved BY FAR the lion’s (or is it lyin’s) share of the Freddie/Fannie lobbyist money.
In fact, how any Obama supporter can know THIS fact and not have their head explode escapes me:
Of ALL legislators in Congress, over a THIRTY YEAR period, Obama recieved the second highest amount of cash from Freddie/Fannie, in less than a THREE YEAR PERIOD!
He got more money than ANYONE in Congress except Dodd . . . who is the chairman of the committee that supposedly oversaw Freddie/Fannie.
Not partisan sniping. Fact.
Sucks, don’t it?
Posted by: not_in_my_face | September 23, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
“Hotheaded and unstable McCain
with his finger on the button.”
I can top that…. Armageddon worshipping Palin whose foreign policy experience is summed up by “I can see Russia from my house!”, having been tutored by Rove/Cheney, takes over as POTUS after 72 year old McCain loses his ongoing battle with cancer.
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Biden is a slob. He’ll be
banished soon.
Obama/Clinton ’08
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
The left will never cut lose of the real loser in their platform; the abortion issue; what will be next?
————————————-
Plain and simple, the USA will be racists if they do not elect this Used Car saleman with a better suit.
And they will be right, I hate used car salemen.
Posted by: Mike Nowicki | September 23, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
not to mention Palin’s economics expertise is summed up by her recent “the economy needs some shakin’ and some fixin’” comment. Miss Teen South Carolina had more common sense than Ms. Alaska Runner Up.
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
What drives me crazy is instead of answering the question the candidate goes into a pre-planned talking point … like what Obama did at the end of his quote.
———————
Disclaimer: I know both candidates do this and it does not disqualify Obama from being president
Posted by: N7r3pyd | September 23, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
I’d like to point out that the President doesn’t actually pass any laws or regulations…Congress has to do that.
It’s great that some people are pointing fingers at the President and the Republicans for the mess we’re in, but they seem to forget how we got here. I think it’s funny that the economy was good, unemployment was down, manufacturing and home ownership were up and gas was cheaper 2 years ago…when a Democratic Congress took over.
It seems to me that Congress is too concerned with blocking bills and stalling things so that they can make the Republicans look bad, when in reality they SHOULD be working to get things done and passed quickly in order to protect the American people from the things we are facing now.
Posted by: Dan | September 23, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I used to respect Obama but now we know his true self. This guy is a liar and sleazeball.
He lies about his record and McCain’s. Unbelievable how you loons can continue to support this partisan fraud.
Posted by: Doug | September 23, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Let’s give credit for Matt Lauer for his line of questioning. It’s time for Obama to answer tough questions on his positions and the duplicity in his campaign. I want to know how Obama may conduct himself when he sits down with the leaders from Iran, Iraq, Russia, etc. Looking pretty, and sounding good off a teleprompter won’t cut it a closed room with these guys.
Posted by: Carlos | September 23, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Obama ought to reflect on is 2005 S.190
Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate)
Which was voted down on a partisan basis
Who is the problem Barry?
Posted by: dan | September 23, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
not to mention Palin’s economics expertise is summed up by her recent “the economy needs some shakin’ and some fixin’” comment. Miss Teen South Carolina had more common sense than Ms. Alaska Runner Up.
———————————–
Real intelligent comments here.
Once again, Sarah Palin is John McCain’s running mate, she is not running for President.
Are you loony libs that worried about her that all you can do is make silly little backhanded comments ?
She is for real and she is not going away.
Posted by: Mike Nowicki | September 23, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
All I want to know is when does the investigation start? I want to see that FRUIT Barney Frank, Dodd, Shummer, Pelosi, Reid, Obey, and the rest of the Democrats who destroyed our economy, summarily tried and executed!
Posted by: Gator_Rick | September 23, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Keystone Cops!!
The democrats are once again making this too easy for the GOP. Obama doesn’t have the experience, there isn’t a shred of evidence that he can stand on and on November 11 this will come back to haunt the DNC.
The saddest fact of all is that many people aren’t answering the pollers honestly or just won’t speak publicly about the fact that the US. is barely ready for a female candidate let alone a black one. Why do you think the race has tightened in the last six weeks? People have finally started realize Uh Oh you know be careful what you wish for… you just might get it……
See you in another 4 years
Posted by: steve | September 23, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Republican Bush appointed Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson (former CEO of floundering Goldman Sachs) aka “Mr.
Risk”, believes “we the people” will bend over and write him a blank check for $700,000,000,000 with the following
demands:
“Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.” ———
WOW!!!! THAT’S WORSE THAN A HALLIBURTON NO-BID CONTRACT FOLKS!!! THIS REAKS OF AN ECONOMIC COUP!!!
SO THE REPUBLICANS EXPECT US TO REWARD THEIR DEREGULATION INCOMPETENCE WITH A NATION-KILLING BLANK CHECK???
THE AUDACITY IS JAW DROPPING!!!!
VOTE ALL THE BUMS OUT!!!
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
“But it’s the kind of thing that drives people crazy about politics,” Lauer said. “It sounds like you were trying to score some political points against John McCain using his words, when your own running mate had used very similar words
Matt: Have you ever heard Sean Hannity from Fox Noise ask this type of question to their candidate? Who are you working for?
Posted by: shalom | September 23, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
“abc news i am all for freedom of speech but many of the comments i see on your site border on hate speech…”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Less than 28% of Americans approve of the bailout. The taxpayers are outraged. McCain and Biden had the right reaction to AIG.
Posted by: ExDem | September 23, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
This brings up an interesting dynamic between obama and biden. Biden older, more experienced but has to play second fiddle to a rank amateur.
How will this work in the White House? Biden is famous for his ego. Will he tollerate taking orders from Chicago Slim?
Posted by: Steve | September 23, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Chris Dodd (D) was number one recipient of the money
Posted by: bman | September 23, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
McCain / Palin 08!!!
Posted by: Daniel | September 23, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Indecision or no decision can be worse then making a decision – esecially when time is of the essence as it was with AIG.
Biden and McCain are not used to voting “Present” they are used to making decisions for the good of the people.
It appears that it was also above Obama’s “pay grade” to make a decision regarding AIG.
Maybe if the decision was whether or not to bail out Rezko, he could have made the decision.
Posted by: rob | September 23, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Poor Obama, he can hardly talk with out reading someone elses words on the teleprompter.
Nice pick on Joe the way.
Posted by: JKC | September 23, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Obama is a moron. He says that McCain wants the market to drive the economy. TRUE!! The problem is no the market or business, it is the government trying to guide business. Forcing banks to approve bad loans is part of the problem, Mae and Mac buying those bad loans to increase bonuses is the other half; and McCain tried to get it fixed.
Posted by: Jim Mc | September 23, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Look, what started this thing was the bottom falling out on Fannie/Freddie. That was not related to “deregulation” or even an existing regulation…it was caused by the left forcing financial institutions to give money to people who would normally not qualify. Now, the left has made millions off of the F’s during that time. Obama is their second highest $$$ on their donation list…not bad for voting “present” all the time, which is kind of odd as he is only a first term senator. It is funny, crooks always seem to know who the crooked cops are and these guys found Obama in record time..wonder why that is? Fannie/Freddie only gave McCain 1/10th of the donation they gave to Obama…hmmm…26 years in the senate and he only gets that much…I guess the crooks got that one right. Anyway, for Obama to be talking about deregulation in this instance is wrong and he knows it. He should be talking about how bending the rules for the greater good is not always the thing to do when the people who are not paying taxes but got the loans are not the ones who are bailing out these guys…now that is really the ironic part of this whole mess started by the LEFT. The rich..err patriotic tax payers are really the ones bailing these guys out..not the “common man”. You know, the ones who can afford it..the ones that probably won’t be voting for Obama…So, actually..one could say this is Obama’s economic policy at work…Wealth redistribution in the flesh…rob from the rich to pay for the poor…they keep their houses, tax payers pay for them and the economy goes in the tank…early picture of what is to come should this idiot make it to the White House.
Posted by: greg | September 23, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Did you know:that the top four recipients of political donations from the GSEs,
according to OpenSecrets, are
1. Christopher Dodd,
2. John Kerry,
3. Barack Obama, and
4. Hillary Clinton
Yes, McCain got money too, about $90,000.
Obama got more. Jamie Gorelick and Raines
got millions.
And despite Obama-bot objections, Raines
did confer with Obama, even though the
Washington Post tried to waffle out of their
own reporting.
Posted by: lulu Jones | September 23, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Gator_Rick:
And how are they responsible? they fought deregulation good and hard, and your GOP leaders rammed it up this nation’s ass, creating the situation which led to the current situation.
Anyway, before you go ranting on about executions and things like that, it might help to have a shred of a clue on things. Quit listening to soundbites and go read a book…
Posted by: Henderson | September 23, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
In 2005, McCain warned that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were not sufficiently regulated and were assuming too many sub-prime mortgages. He asked for more regulation of these two quasi-governmental entities. At that time, Obama was the beneficiary of substantial political contributions from these two corporations. Coincidentally, Obama voted against more regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at that time. It is amazing how conveniently Obama has forgotten the events of 2005. Here’s a guy who will say and do anything to get himself elected president.
Posted by: Patrick C. | September 23, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Looks like the Obama juggernaut has split it’s seams. Is taking on water.
Mayday, mayday….
Posted by: lambchops | September 23, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
“Once again, Sarah Palin is John McCain’s running mate, she is not running for President.”
What part of 72 year old POTUS with cancer do you not understand????
Can you say “44% chance of not surviving his first term”???
Can you say, “currently being tutored by Rove/Cheney”???? Her comments prove this.
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
“The democrats are once again making this too easy for the GOP. Obama doesn’t have the experience, there isn’t a shred of evidence that he can stand on and on November 11 this will come back to haunt the DNC. ”
– Steve
Lets hope all your republican friends aso believe that election day is Nov. 11.
Posted by: Matt | September 23, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Matt: Have you ever heard Sean Hannity from Fox Noise ask this type of question to their candidate? Who are you working for?
————————————
Matt works for NBC, it is the National Broadcasting Company not the NEW BARACK CHANNEL.
Unreal how you libs rip FOX News for the stuff they do, but you want NBC and the “anchors” to be totally in the tank for the Libs.
Posted by: Mike Nowicki | September 23, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Steve:
How do you know that the majority of Americans are not ready for a Black president? Have you poll them?
What is the problem with someone’s skin color determining if that person can be president? If America does not vote senator Obama in for president because of his race, this country will go down in history as one of the worse in history…..It’s stupid and dumb to judge a person on skin color….Skin color!!!!! Can adults really be that stupid and silly? If folks vote against senator Obama merely because his black, then they are stupid people….
Posted by: shalom | September 23, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Looks like trouble in paradise. Obama on Biden’s Initial Opposition to AIG Bailout: “Joe Should Have Waited”
Then Biden says Obama ad on McCain was wron, he would not have done it.
Is Biden going to go “Under the Bus”?
Posted by: HL | September 23, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Palin doesn’t need to talk to the press….she has America behind her
MSM, PRESS, ALL obama surrogates
Posted by: carpenter.nyc | September 23, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Liberals are already pulling out the last ditch big guns; if Obama isn’t elected, it is because ‘fly-over’ country is so racist… Couldn’t have anything to do with the ‘guns and religion’ comments, and how he views middle America, could it?
You have pinned your hopes on an empty suit. Don’t worry, some day you will know the answer to the trivia question “Gore/Kerry/Obama” (Insert your own stupid question about three losers in a row).
The ship is sinking, the sky is falling, and the only thing you liberals can cry is racist; America isn’t buying the race-card any more….
Posted by: Verbal | September 23, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Republican Bush appointed Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson (former CEO of floundering Goldman Sachs) aka “Mr.
Risk”, believes “we the people” will bend over and write him a blank check for $700,000,000,000 with the following
demands:
“Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.” ——— WOW!!!! THAT’S WORSE THAN A
HALLIBURTON NO-BID CONTRACT FOLKS!!! THIS REAKS OF AN ECONOMIC COUP!!!
SO THE REPUBLICANS EXPECT US TO REWARD THEIR DEREGULATION INCOMPETENCE WITH A NATION-KILLING BLANK CHECK???
THE AUDACITY IS JAW DROPPING!!!!
VOTE ALL THE BUMS OUT!!!
Posted by: No More Neocons | September 23, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Mike Nowicki,
Do your research before talking. You mentioned how Barack Obama was #2 in money given by Fannie Mae and Freddie. You then stated “Care to venture a guess as to who the #1 was?” I know your insinuating that John McCain was…but you’re completely wrong. Look it up for yourself before you start implying things that you are unsure of.
Tim
Posted by: Tim J. | September 23, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
I know that BO secretly (or not so secretly) wishes Biden would vanish. With Obama/Clinton, Biden would be a lead albatross and McCain would’nt have to spend a cent. C’mon Joe just say it, McCain/Palin 08 ! You’ll feel much better.
Posted by: ripster24007 | September 23, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Can’t you people see what’s happening? The Democrats are setting up the American public with the old switch and bait. Obama scolds Biden, removes him from the ticket and puts on Hillary. I’ll take any bets on this.
Posted by: Bo | September 23, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
On another note… some continue to bring up the “Keating Five” scandal as if you could even begin to compare the two because one were govt. entities. If you go back and check the facts as many of you ask you’ll see that in the end McCain was completely 100% exonerated.
But I suppose that footnote was cut off on the tele- prompter.
Posted by: steve | September 23, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Mike Nowicki:
I was being sarcastic when I ask that question about Matt……you actually bought that….wow! Now, let’s get to the point….NBC News is fair and balance. Fox News is a racist joke…..
Posted by: shalom | September 23, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Interesting is that when Republicans do wrong, the Dems screaming from the rooftops for hearings on what caused this and WHO is responsible. In fact we’d already be in the middle of hearings. The silence is deafening!!!!!
Posted by: Pickle | September 23, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
“Obama voted against more regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at that time. It is amazing how conveniently Obama has forgotten the events of 2005.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
I can’t believe that our government has put all of the people in a financial crisis. At least McCain came out on Friday and had a plan. He was PRO-ACTIVE. Obama still does not have a plan. Very comforting – if he is elected.
This is the most DO-NOTHING Congress we have ever had but yet they get to vote theirselves pay increases and how many days of recess do they get??? They don’t have to worry about their retirement and they never have to worry about health insurance.
I suggest that members of Congress should not be allowed to vote for their own pay increases. I think the American people should have a YES or NO vote by how they performed their jobs.
Posted by: Maureen | September 23, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Not one can measure up to Obama’s standards. The Messiah has very high standards for everyone but his lack-of-knowledge, failing-to-show-up-to-work self.
Posted by: Poor Joe | September 23, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
anon, you’re about 3 days behind on the news about Sen. McCain and the computer illiterate story. Stop watching PMSnbc and the Clinton News Network and you might learn something.
Posted by: Joe F | September 23, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Did we all miss this??? Obama/Hillary/Alinsky = Prasie to Lucifer? Say it ain’t so…This should be recirculated and pposted everywhere.
Posted by: KB | September 23, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Maybe Biden wants out, of a losing ticket.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
No – Its phoney – Biden faked a mistake so Barry could look smart – Barry just doesnt act like he is ready for something bigger than himself
Posted by: Jules | September 23, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Obama won’t even tell us what his economic plan is at this time. He’s an opportunist waiting to see if this bail-out fails or succeeds. Of course, then he’ll say “this is exactly what I would’ve done,” if it works or, “they made a big mistake,” if it fails. It will be interesting to see where he goes on this from a congressional stand point. He’s still a senator and to get this bail-out to pass it must go through both houses. It’s a great opportunity to see where he really stands (i.e. for or against). Will he go for a Bush plan that will undermine his speak on the failing economy and who’s to balme or will he think of his duty as a senator to do the right thing despite it’s effect on his campaign.
I think this economic disaster will ultimately show Obama is a complete double speaking buffoon, not that our other choices are that great.
Finally, ask yourself “what has my congressional reps done for the last few years?” I’ll bet it’s more their lazy inaction that caused this. I say vote’em all out, clean house, and start over. Very sad!
Posted by: Mike Canada | September 23, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Mad taxpayer, Stuped me I have 9mm amo and 380 amo,30-30 amo but no shot gun shells yet,I forgot because its not bird season down here yet.you beat me on the house,mine pays off next May,but if need be I could pay it off in Five business days,but I’m in no hurry yet.
Posted by: butch-40 | September 23, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Paulson is bailing out his friends in wall street.
Obama is going to lose because “Archie Bunker” I mean Biden keeps sabotaging this election for Obama.
Obama is the biggest idio* for picking Archie Bunker as his running mate.
This is going to cost him the election
Posted by: economy | September 23, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Obama was right to be upset with Biden. BHO had not received his marching orders from Soros yet! Biden, by speaking promptly and with experience, is showing BHO’s lack of experience and knowledge. Say it ain’t so, Joe!
Posted by: David | September 23, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Posted by: Baxter Greene | Sep 23, 2008 12:16:40 PM
Baxter’s post should be REQUIRED READING for every McCain/Palin-bashing liberal. Obama is being advised to study Winnie the Pooh and Luke Skywalker to learn about foreign policy! What a hoot!
Posted by: Eric | September 23, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
#1 Chris Dodd
#2 Barack Obama
#3 John Kerry
#4 Hillary Clinton
Fannie and Freddie donations from 1989-2007.
Posted by: Bubba | September 23, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Obama still has more clout than Mcbush. In this very case you have to look at the facts: Republicans oppose regulation of business on the majority while democrats typically vote towards more regulation of businesses and I think that with the latest market crisis more regulation seems to be te answer. For too long Wall street has been enabling these dishonorable lending practices that ultimately fail in protecting the American public’s interest. MY personal opinion the U.S has too long put their faith in the market, I think it’s time we focus on the people. Given McBush’s voting record I don’t believe him to be the president that will secure my freedom. He instead would rather pour OUR tax mony into a military engagement (notice I didn’t say war) that 80% of the country doesn’t support. I think it’s time for change, and though Obama doesn’t bring as much as heralded by CNN and much ofthe liberal news media, he brings enough and a lot more than McSame does.
Posted by: Mike 4 Change | September 23, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
The messiah – what a lying little crap weasel!
Posted by: Duke | September 23, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Biden wants out because not even Biden son will be able to defend Obama against Larry Sinclaire’s accusations….
Posted by: wow | September 23, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Henderson
FOX at least has some balance: Alan Colmes,Bob Bechel,Susan Esterich, Juan Williams and some other loons I could care less about.
So you just keep thinking what you want about FOX News, I just wish it had more Ann Coulter and Laura Ingram so I could watch more.
Posted by: Mike Nowicki | September 23, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Now I not sure…
He that turns face, makes no truth.
Posted by: WilliamTell | September 23, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Obama is proving to be a flimflam Chicago politician, who managed to hide his incompetence behind lots of ornamental words, which he does not believe nor practice. Biden doesn’t know where Obama stands at any given moment, because Obama tries to claim all sides of an issue. There is no way we can trust these Keystone Cops with the US presidency.
Posted by: Phil | September 23, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Bush-Chainey,8 years of bhogus WMD,Iraq war,2 billion dollars/day of tax payer dollar spend in iraq for 5 years and now “Recession & fall out out of Bank,AIG,wall Steet,Fannae mae all for that Bush’s Iraq war.GOP and all of you stupid Americans are running after war mangering 72 yr.old Mccain and his VP Polin BA.degree from 5 college in 6 years. give me abreak? vote OBAMA/BIDEN
Posted by: mksyed | September 23, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
The MSM likes to paint Obama as a deep thinker when in reality he just waits to see which way the political wind is blowing before making a comment. He is not a leader, he is a follower.
Posted by: tiredofit | September 23, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
LOOK FOR A CHANGE IN EARLY OCTOBER…BIDEN WILL BE OUT AND HILLARY WILL BE IN…THE SET UP IS IN THE WORKS.
T
Posted by: Carol V | September 23, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
So what did Obama have to say about the push by Democrats especially to have Freddie and Fannie get more heavily invested in sub-prime mortgages, sans effective federal oversight, which many argue (persuasively) contributed significantly to the bubble we’re dealing with right now? I guess taking on Chris Dodd and Barney Frank who should be removed from their chairmanships just as the CEOs of Fannie and Freddie were removed is just not the kind of change Obama believes in.
Posted by: A3k | September 23, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
The computer-illiterate McCain
lost or crashed five navy planes.
He ejected from the fifth one,
was captured, and went on to
become Songbird McCain as a POW.
Posted by: anon | September 23, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Question, Obama, say McCain has sinned. Is he not ALSO forgiven as your own disciple?
“No, hold on a second Matt,”
“I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact… bla bla bla.. McCain attack..
No, O-bladee, what drives us bored to tears is when youre asked a simple straightforward question and you say “now hold on” and instantly “change” the subject..
Then youre asked about Biden and you launch into a Palin attack instead.
LLLLLLLLL… gasp.. LLLLLOSER!!
Biden is two-faced, both of them liars, and Oblamer doesn’t even KNOW how many faces he owns.
Posted by: zak | September 23, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE ECONOMY ARE SOUND!
Just about any economist will tell you this. Unemployment, inflation, GNP and interest rates are all in good shape. Sure we are having some problems with gas prices and recently the markets but we are certainly not in as bad a situation as we were in the carter years. Just because Obama says something does not make it true. Obama makes it sound like everyone is crowded up in the streets waiting for food airdrops from China. He has been preaching negativity for 2 years now and all of his bobblehead supporters just walk around in a daze chanting “Yes We Can”, “Yes We Can”. If any of you would get your head out of the sand and look around, you would see that Obama does not know anything about anything. He cannot make a decision on any major issue. He is scared to debate McCain. All he does is tour around preaching about “hope” and how bad a country America is. Every day, more and more people are coming to their senses and thinking for themselves and realizing that Obama is an idiot. All he can do is sling mud. He has no grip on reality and has no ideas of his own. Pelosi, Reid, Ayers and Raines tell him what to think, what to say and what to do. He has never gone against anything Pelosi and Reid tell him and look where Pelosi and Reid have landed us in the markets. Wake up people. Come out of the trance and think for yourselves. If you hate the republican party so much then vote Nader or Barr. Anyone who would cast a vote for Obama is a blind follower and has no respect for this country we live in.
Posted by: Ken | September 23, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Who started the lending crisis by requiring loans to people that shouldn’t qualify? Carter(D).
Who expanded it so that people that normally qualify for loans now qualify for far-larger loans? Clinton(D).
Who tried to add oversight in 2003? Bush(R).
Who tried again in 2005 to add oversight? McCain(R).
Posted by: Jim Mc | September 23, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
It is about time the media started focusing on the issues with Obama’s compaign. If you ask me, the media has already selected the next president.
Posted by: Bob | September 23, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
To: No More Neocons
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. Finally someone on the left has recognized that it is Congress that causes these problems….and who is in control of congress? Enjoy what you have now while you can. You are about to take control of the country and you should be reassured that never in recorded history has the standard of living gotten better under socialism for anybody but the leaders. Soon we will be telling our children that you can grow up to be whatever you want to be and here is the government list of things you want to be……
Posted by: WhatsANeocon | September 23, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
How refreshing to see someone in the media play the fairness game. Even after it was pointed out that Biden said the same thing that McCain said, Mr. Obama still clung to a thread and changed the thrust of the arguement. Yes Obamqa this is what drives people nuts about politics, at least the people who pay attention. McCain is running against the democratic party,
Most of the liberal media and of course
almost all of Hollywood. Considering this one way race, Obama should be 29 points ahead, he’s not, this must tell us something. Obama will not win the Presidency nor does he deserve to win.
Posted by: greyfox | September 23, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
“Maybe Biden wants out, of a losing ticket.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Harry the CPA posted this:
“Not everything Obama is looking to do is spot-on. However it will force us to go on a diet, to change our habits and outlook to not be so hedonistic and think like a team.”
I knew it wouldn’t be too long before the dems forced us to go on a diet. They want to control everything else we do. I Love Big Brother!
Posted by: SJon | September 23, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Mike Nowicki:
When FOX NEWS Neil Cavuto blame the subprime mortgage mess and this financial collaspe of minorities getting mortgage loans, then FOX NEWS becomes Fox Noise and racist……
Fox News is one of the most hateful networks I’ve ever seen. Those folks remind me of demons on that show…..Full of racism and hate….
Posted by: shalom | September 23, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
this election was in the pocket for Obama until he picked Biden.
MSM, the clowns AC cooper, and the whole network MSNBC are the fools who destroyed the news and the credibility of this election.
ITS over OBAMA/BIDEN are nothing but a FOOTNOTE after NOV 4th
Posted by: cooper | September 23, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Yet more credible evidence that Obama is a mechanical robot playing an endless tape full of platitudes and slogans. The man is an experiential and cognative moron.
Vote McCain-Palin, for the good of the USA.
Posted by: marvl | September 23, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
I wish I had a nickel for every time Obama has said “now hold on a second…” it’s so condescending and RUDE and a typical elitist response (you know, he has to show us the way.. the right way.. the only way)
Keep your change big O. Thanks but no thanks.
Posted by: Stacey | September 23, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
There’s Obama again getting in someone’s face and arguing with them. He can never be wrong, just like George W. Bush, only Obama is an even bigger liar and is way more argumentative. He thinks he can intimidate people into silence if he forcefully tells them they are wrong, even though he knows he is lying.
Posted by: OxyCon | September 23, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Look at the Gaffs. Look at the separate identities. Look at the fact that he said on national television that “no one is questioning my Muslim faith.” Look at his Ties to Luis Farrakhan. His ties to thugs and terrorists in Chicago!
Posted by: derrek michigan | September 23, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Let’s be clear, uh, let’s be clear,
eh, let’s be clear. . .somebody fix the tele-prompter.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Call it what you want, the AIG “bailout” is a LOAN that will be repaid once assets are liquidated.
Conceptually, private enterprises should not be bailed out but in this case, they’re capable of reimbursing us.
The Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac debacles ae another story. I note that John McCain tried to prevent those catastrophies back in 2005 but Harry Reid wouldn’t let the Bill come to the floor…..how benevolent the Dems were then and how pathetic they are now with earmarks to the bailout bills sponsored by the White House and Treasury Departments.
Posted by: Monarch | September 23, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
So Obama’s first opportunity to exercise his vaunted superior judgment is to pick Joe ‘Loose Lips’ Biden as his runninng mate.
Imagine if the rest of President Obama’s decisions are as inspired.
Posted by: lambchops | September 23, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Biden is a liability to Obama..If only he could switch but it is too late for that. Obama should have known about him…but of course he was only doing his job as senator for a year or less. the rest of the time he was campaigning.
Maybe Obama could get Palin and change Directions..oops ..too late for a move like that.
While Dems cause economic disruption ..do they really think we will vote for them? They caused this problem…thru and for their cronies on Fannie and Freddie..who apparently were not interested in Credit Ratings, ability to repay and Naive trust in THEIR pals.
Are their any Dems with a background in Economics? Do any of them actually pay the same expenses and rates for their mortgages?
Ask Frank and Dodd..the answer is clear..
Posted by: Will | September 23, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Hey shalom.
Does the truth hurt ?
I do think most of the reason for the collapse is all of the dead beat loans that were defaulted on because the dispicable Bill Clinton wanted everyone to get a home no matter if they could pay or not.
All the Dems are looking for is a handout and all of the Dem leaders want to have a base to give thing to, hence all the government programs.
Hate FOX news all you want, it is not going anywhere.
Posted by: Mike Nowicki | September 23, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Obama will win this election because the black people that vote for him are racists. 90% of blacks vote for Obama and nothing is ever said about it. Women who vote for Mcain/Palin are stupid because they vote for Palin because she is a woman. Meanwhile the crooks on both side are trying to push through a bill for the crooks who helped get them elected.
God bless America
Rest In Peace
Posted by: Randy | September 23, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
REMEMBER>>>>>>
WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, HAVE THE RIGHT TO THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!
ALL THE POLITICIANS ARE BUMS AND ARE CORRUPT.
THE TIME IS NOW
VOTE THEM OUT AND THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES, NOT THE POLITICIANS NEED TO TAKE CONTROL AND BRING AMERICA BACK TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE
NOT BY THE POLITICIANS….FOR THE POLITICIANS
Posted by: cindy | September 23, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Joe was originally right.
Posted by: Ben Straub | September 23, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
“The MSM likes to paint Obama as a deep thinker when in reality he just waits to see which way the political wind is blowing before making a comment. He is not a leader, he is a follower.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Just one suggestion for ANYONE who is considering voting for OBAMA and his puppeteirs ~ READ ~ “ATLAS SHRUGGED”
Mc Cain / Palin 2008
Posted by: Jeffrey Williams | September 23, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Three Biden gaffes in 24 hours:
1. The AIG flip-flop.
2. Tells a woman in Ohio that he opposes any new coal plans and clean coal technology…goodbye Pennsylvania and West Virginia.
3. Calls the Obama attack ad on McCain’s computer skills “terrible” and says it shouldn’t have been run.
Posted by: Gceres | September 23, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. BARACK OBAMA IS A MASTER BS ARTIST AND AN EXPERT AT DOUBLE TALK. He’s like a huge pyramid scheme, scamming the public at every turn. He’s a disgrace.
Posted by: Michelle | September 23, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
I appreciate that a reporter would hold everyone to the same standard.
Posted by: Byron Prange | September 23, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Two years ago I was better off before the democrats took over congress with their plan to improve things. Now they want a liberal pro homosexual pro abortion pro ask his 300 advisers before he says what he is allowed to say,(hence the teleprompers) no experience senator to be president. And to make sure they win they slander the other party with lies and inuendoes.
Thankfully the American people, those that cling to guns and God see through the empty suit.
Posted by: Steve | September 23, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
What drives me crazy about politics is
THE MEDIA!!!!
Posted by: Dan | September 23, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
John McSame is one of the most out of touch, lying I’m sorry misspoken, flip flopper in this race. If you want to speak of misspoken words john said in one of his famous town hall meetings that he wanted to drill to become more energy independent so that “no more of our brave men and women have to go over thier and die”. So this war that we are spending 10 billion dollars a month on is nothing more that a scam to get oil?
Posted by: mike b. | September 23, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Tired of 8 yrs.of Bush-Chainey,Bhogus WMD,war,Human and huge financial loss.USA is now in recession for Bush’s Iraq war.Now John Mccain ( Bush 3 rd) and his VP Palin,BA in 6 yrs from 5 college,who is not even fit VP for USA.Mccain in his biggest gamble of life. I don’t understand why people should vote for Mccain or Republicans.
Iam worried with Mccain-Polin.Polin will be worse than chainey.Woman watch out,Mccai-polin will reverse your” right to chhose”.Is that you want”? think again before you vote on Nov.4. Don’t go with Hype or hate.Use your head. Vote and choice is yours. Vote for OBAMA/BIDEN “08 and the country back.
Posted by: mksyed | September 23, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Throughout this crisis, Obama is the only one who has shown sound judgment. McCain continues to demonstrate signs of pre-senile dementia and is not exactly someone who should be near any red buttons or answering any red phones. Forget about the economy surviving the next four years, with McCain as president, I’d question if the human race can survive the possibility of a nuclear holocaust.
Posted by: When Elephants Fly | September 23, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
“Loose lips sink ships.” The Obama ship is sinking like the Titanic.
Biden is about as exciting as Kerry was in 2004. Both have the personality of a frozen mackerel.
Posted by: david | September 23, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Wow, Obama is goin’ down.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
What drives me crazy about politics is THE MEDIA!!!!
Posted by: Dan | September 23, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Do I look like a guy with a plan?
I’m just a dog chasing cars.
I wouldn’t know what to do with it if I caught one.
Posted by: Joker | September 23, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Smiling Mr. Nice Guy on the outside
Chicago thug and community agitator on the inside.
“Get in the face of your neighbors if they disagree with me”
Democrats–The new communist party with BO as the dictator.
Posted by: harry | September 23, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
“In 2005, the Senate Banking Committee, then under Republican control, adopted a strong reform bill, introduced by Republican Sens. Elizabeth Dole, John Sununu and Chuck Hagel, and supported by then chairman Richard Shelby. The bill prohibited the GSEs from holding portfolios, and gave their regulator prudential authority (such as setting capital requirements) roughly equivalent to a bank regulator. In light of the current financial crisis, this bill was probably the most important piece of financial regulation before Congress in 2005 and 2006. All the Republicans on the Committee supported the bill, and all the Democrats voted against it. Mr. McCain endorsed the legislation in a speech on the Senate floor. Mr. Obama, like all other Democrats, remained silent.”
Excerpt from Wall Street Journal, 9/23/2008
Posted by: Quinn | September 23, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Kind of looks like Biden, Bill and Hillary want the lightweight Obama to lose.
Posted by: riley | September 23, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
What drives me crazy about politics is THE MEDIA!!!!
Posted by: Dan Rathe | September 23, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Funny how Obamma refused to take a stand (right,wrong or indifferent) on this topic for days because he was awaiting the general consensus.
This guy is not a decision maker.
Posted by: OJ | September 23, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Obama is looking very tired in that interview . . .
Posted by: dbh | September 23, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
BO/JB and JM/SP both are a waste. How can anyone consider a sitting US senator change?
Look around, there are alternatives.
The 2 biggest threats to the United States is it’s own Federal Government and the Federal Reserve.
Posted by: Sunny-D | September 23, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
It’s been speculated on various blogs that Biden is going to pull an October surprise and bail out of the race, citing some mysterious health problem — thereby paving the way for an Obama/Clinton ticket.
I have another theory. I think Biden is going to intentionally cause a fake rift between himself and Obama, and then pull out of the ticket based on policy differences. It’s the same BS — just packaged differently. Never underestimate the lengths that a liberal will go to to obtain power. Obama will try any and every underhanded scheme to pull the wool over America’s eyes.
Posted by: Scott M | September 23, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
“I think what drives people crazy about politics is the fact that somebody like John McCain who for 26 years has been an advocate for deregulation,”
This is a flagrant lie.
McCain called for overhaul of Fannie Mae in 2005 and Obama called for more money from Fannie Mae. Obama has taken more money from FNMA than anyone except for Dodd and Kerry.
Posted by: drjohn | September 23, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Obama is voting “present” on the economic crisis. There is a fine line between nuance and spineless. I think it has been crossed.
Posted by: Cary | September 23, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
“I have another theory. I think Biden is going to intentionally cause a fake rift between himself and Obama, and then pull out of the ticket based on policy differences. It’s the same BS — just packaged differently. Never underestimate the lengths that a liberal will go to to obtain power. Obama will try any and every underhanded scheme to pull the wool over America’s eyes.”
The Eagleton Gambit
Posted by: drjohn | September 23, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Tired of 8 yrs.of Bush-Chainey,Bhogus WMD,war,Human and huge financial loss.USA is now in recession for Bush’s Iraq war.Now John Mccain ( Bush 3 rd) and his VP Palin,BA in 6 yrs from 5 college,who is not even fit VP for USA.Mccain in his biggest gamble of life. I don’t understand why people should vote for Mccain or Republicans.
Iam worried with Mccain-Polin.Polin will be worse than chainey.Woman watch out,Mccai-polin will reverse your” right to chhose”.Is that you want”? think again before you vote on Nov.4. Don’t go with Hype or hate.Use your head. Vote and choice is yours. Vote for OBAMA/BIDEN “08 and the country back
Mkyed
What evidence can you provide to me and the rest of the American public that Obama has any experiencing at fixing the issues and righting the wrongs that you write about!!!
Show me something… at least McCain has a record of doing something write or wrong.
Posted by: barry | September 23, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Shalom…
Is the converse true?….
If folks vote FOR senator Obama merely because he is black, then they are stupid people??….
Polls do show that 95% of blacks will vote for Obama.
Look at things from both sides…
Posted by: HRC | September 23, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Obama is not fit to lead because he can’t make a decision and stick to it.
He always waits until the after fact and then goes with the popular choice.
USA is not ready to become a 3rd world Nation under this Clown show OBAMA/BIDEN freak show….
Posted by: KOOL AID | September 23, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Dear Joe M.
It is America with a capital A you Socialist with a capital S.
Posted by: Quinn | September 23, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
People,
We need to do our job as citizens to look at WHO in Congress was involved in this hideous economic mess we are in now. Bush is not the only person that works in the Whitehouse. Republicans, Democrats, whoever was in this needs to be VOTED OUT!!!!!!!!
We need to prosecute the Golden Parachute individuals. Take the money they have received for being immoral donkeys and provide that money to bail out as many REAL PEOPLE from losing their homes as possible.
Media has a job here. Pressure government to prosecute these individuals. Stand up and be counted for. Quit jackin’ your jaws and provide upright and honest information to the public. WE the REAL AMERICANS know what is a bunch of lies and what is not.
VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!
THat includes Pelosi, and the rest!
Posted by: Cindy | September 23, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
“well, they Republican dream has come true – the US government is broke and dysfunctional. Gee thanks.”
Really?
Democrats have controlled Congress for two years. What has Dodd done to ward off this crisis, besides taking money from FNMA?
What has Obama done to reform ANYTHING?
Hello?
Posted by: drjohn | September 23, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
So basically Obama wants us to look into the rearview mirror for 4 years and expects us to get to where we need to be?
Posted by: Steve | September 23, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
God how much better off democrats would be with Hillary as our nominee.
DON’T BLAME ME, I VOTED FOR HILLARY!
Posted by: ch | September 23, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
God how much better off democrats would be with Hillary as our nominee.
DON’T BLAME ME, I VOTED FOR HILLARY!
Posted by: ch | September 23, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Will the memories fade of Obie-1 once voting Dems disappear behind the curtain and emerge with the Dem’s surprise: the silent McCain affirmation that BHO is a loser?
Posted by: 2late2matter | September 23, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Just wait until Obama hears Biden’s new position that there will be no new coal plants in the US.
ROFLMAO
Posted by: drjohn | September 23, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
don’t blame me – i voted for hillary!
Posted by: ch | September 23, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
No, what drives people crazy about politics is that Obama is lying through his teeth. McCain has not advocated for deregulation of Fannie and Freddie. Quite the opposite. In 2005, McCain co-sponsored a bill calling for reform of those two institutions — but right down party lines, the Dem’s, including Obama, killed McCain’s bill. McCain warned us 3 years ago that this was going to happen, and he tried to prevent it. Obama voted against reforming those companies — while he kept on receiving large campaign contributions from Fannie and Freddie. Now all the corrupt fat cats that got rich as CEO’s of Fannie and Freddie when McCain’s proposed reforms were voted down are now serving as Obama’s economic advisors and on his VP vetting committee! It is unbelievable that Obama has the audacity to claim that MCCAIN wanted DE-regulation and that HE wanted appropriate regulation of these mortgage giants.
Posted by: allison | September 23, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
So what party is it that is intent – has been intent since the Carter administration – through Clinton, etc. what party has been intent on providing mortgages to low income and minority groups – DEMOCRATS.
And members of what party were receiving more donations and profited more from Freddie, Fannie, etc. -
DEMOCRATS
And Chris Dodd,D-CT Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee
And Barney Frank D-MA – Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee
Where is the oversight by these committees – Chris Dodd with his hand out for his own special rate mortgage. Barney Frank adamant about low income people receiving mortgages – HOW RIDICULOUS WAS THIS ATTITUDE.
How many illegals received those mortgages.
in 2005 John McCain co-sponsored S-190 asking for serious oversight of Freddie and Fannie – Dems would not go along.
PLEEEZE – Obama received the 2nd highest amount in campaign donations from Freddie and Fannie.
Who to believe!! I’ll take McCain/Palin 2008!!!!
Posted by: RAltiere | September 23, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
I love how the government thinks it is smarter then then market. Look how paulson and bernake are getting chastised for trying to save the world. Turn on CNBC. It’s embarassing. And ever politician boasts that they saw this coming… o yeah then why didn’t you tell anyone!!
Posted by: Phil | September 23, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Dear Lemmy,
I would have er uh hmmm uh used Obuma’s talking uh uh uh points but uh er they don’t sound uh hmm uh coherent.
Posted by: Quinn | September 23, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
NObama. NObiden. November. NO DEAL. KEEP THE CHANGE.
Posted by: HP Boston | September 23, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Through all these comments about McCain’s perceived warnings about Freddie and Fannie nobody attacking Obama seems to care about some of the other facts…
“And other current McCain campaign staffers were the lobbyists receiving shares of that money. According to the Senate Lobbying Database, the lobbying firm of Charlie Black, one of McCain’s top aides, made at least $820,000 working for Freddie Mac from 1999 to 2004. The McCain campaign’s vice-chair Wayne Berman and its congressional liaison John Green made $1.14 million working on behalf of Fannie Mae for lobbying firm Ogilvy Government Relations. Green made an additional $180,000 from Freddie Mac. Arther B. Culvahouse Jr., the VP vetter who helped John McCain select Sarah Palin, earned $80,000 from Fannie Mae in 2003 and 2004, while working for lobbying and law firm O’Melveny & Myers LLP. In addition, Politico reports that at least 20 McCain fundraisers have lobbied for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, pocketing at least $12.3 million over the last nine years.”
For years McCain campaign manager Rick Davis was head of the Homeownership Alliance, a lobbying association that included Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, real estate agents, homebuilders, and non-profits. According to Politico, the organization opposed congressional attempts at regulation of Fannie and Freddie, along the lines of what John McCain is currently proposing. In his capacity of president of the group, Davis went on record in 2003 and insisted that no further reform of the lenders was necessary, in contradiction to his current boss’s sentiments. “[Fannie and Freddie] are subject to an innovative and stringent risk-based capital stress test,” Davis wrote. “The toughest in the financial services industry.”
“It was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that in 1999 repealed the Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act and allowed banks, securities companies, and insurance companies to directly compete with one another and led to the creation of financial conglomerates like Citigroup.”
So, this caucasian in Ohio, is voting for Obama…am not in a mental recession…am from a small town, which by the way does not relate to mccain-palin at all…and sorry to say to “Steve”…fruits do vote and speak their minds to ignorance and bigotry…
Posted by: DaveO | September 23, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
“Last week, when all this financial crisis was playing out, Obama waited until he got the sound bites from McCain’s speeches from the morning and then crafted whatever he could for his appearances that day to counter it. It was pretty obvious, especially on Friday when they were waiting for him at a rally in Florida and the news anchor kept pointing out that Obama was with his advisors in a meeting (just as McCain was appearing on T.V.). Did you know the rally Obama had in Florida last Friday was protested by some blacks against Obama? It is good to know that there are black people who see through his act.”
Yes.
This is exactly what Obama did with the Kyl-Lieberman resolution. He had no position until Clinton announced hers, and then he pounded her for it.
CLASSIC Obama.
Wait for the dust to settle and take a “noble” stance.
What an empty suit.
Posted by: drjohn | September 23, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
The only thing I’ve heard more than “now hold on a second” from Obama is “I’m offended by the suggestion.” He thinks he’s above critique . . . and most of the media agrees!
Posted by: Bob C | September 23, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
I love how the dems have buyers remorse on Obama. What a joke.
Posted by: Omama | September 23, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
TO HRC:
You are just another example of an uneducated and uniformed sheep.
“write” and wrong. I will stop there…enough said.
Posted by: TE | September 23, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
There has been rumors over the last two weeks, after Biden said Hillary might have been a better pick, and after Obama’s meeting with Bill Clinton, that Obama was going to move Biden out and bring Hillary in. There was going to be some faux medical reason for Biden stepping down. It’s all about politics for Obama one way or another. No change here…
Posted by: freemort | September 23, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
“those that cling to guns”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Well Barry is in Tampa rehearsing his well memorized lines and smirky smiles for the debate.
How will he do? hmmm uuh wait a sec now…
mm “someone in my ear shout the answer” umm ohhh I mean hold on mmm the economy is in shambles and uuuh mmm I blame the republicans mmm uhhh…
Posted by: side show | September 23, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Spoken in true Obama fashion. He tells Lauer ‘no, hold a a second Matt’ and then never responds with a direct answer. In this case he completely dodged any comment in response to what his own VP choice had said in reference to the bailout. And this is the ‘Hope and Change’ for the greatest nation on the planet!? Pahleez!
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Will it seriously matter once the Obie-1 Demostats show his voters disappear behind the curtains to cast their surprise dissent vs. da man and his plan?
Posted by: Scottsdale Bob | September 23, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Biden is messing so Hilary can step in…Everyone knows it…
Posted by: JustinCase | September 23, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
TE:
What are trying to say?, because I can’t comprehend any idea or thought from what you are uttering…
Posted by: HRC | September 23, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
They’re all crooks. I can’t even understand what Barney Frank is saying on TV, does he have a sausage in his throat or something?
Posted by: william | September 23, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
I would like to ask everyone who is voting for Barack Obama, WHY??? What qualifications does he have?? If it’s change you’re looking for, doesn’t he just represent the ‘concept’ of change? He’s done NOTHING that would indicate he’s an agent of change. He’s all talk. He has absolutely no executive experience. ‘Community Organizing’ is NOT executive experience. Look at his past associations – William Ayers, the bomber and member of the infamous Weathermen, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the ‘hate America, hate whitey’ pastor, Tony Rezko, Louis Farrakhan, the list goes on and on. If your daughter was going to marry someone with these associations, would you allow it? Yet, you’re willing to vote for this person to run our country – all in the name of ‘change’. Look at Obama’s eyes – there’s no wamth – they’re cold and dead. Everyone who feels compelled to vote for this guy, please do as much research as you can so that you can make an informed decision on November 4th – and no, I’m not a McCain campaign shill, just a very concerned American.
Posted by: Kendra | September 23, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
dianeremarx “Can someone please tell me what a Community Organizer does? Come on! You guys keep saying Obama is qualified because of his experience as a C.O. so tell us, what exactly did Obama do?”
Obama worked as a “community organizer” with a group called ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). ACORN is one the largest special interest groups in the country and the largest supporter of forcing banks to offer high-risk home loans.
Do a little research on the following items and then decide who is at fault.
ACORN & Obama
Community Reinvestment Act of 1977
1999 – Repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act
Bill S.190 from the 109th Congress
Posted by: McCain08 | September 23, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Wallstreet is mainstreet. Put a macroeconomic class in HS and you will never see a democrat as president ….ever
Posted by: mike | September 23, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
NObama. NObiden. No Deal in November. KEEP THE CHANGE.
Great slogan, I changed it slightly.
Posted by: Bob C | September 23, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
“So, this caucasian in Ohio, is voting for Obama…am not in a mental recession…am from a small town, which by the way does not relate to mccain-palin at all…and sorry to say to “Steve”…fruits do vote and speak their minds to ignorance and bigotry…”
Who said anything about “fruits” that would be code for gay? I don’t care if you bite the pillow or if you’re black, you know that closet racism exists and that’s the point I was making….. remember Katrina and NOLA??
Posted by: Steve | September 23, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
The only thing I’ve heard more than “now hold on a second” from Obama is “I’m offended by the suggestion.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
To: McCain08
Hitler was a community organizer.
Hope this helps.
Posted by: Quinn | September 23, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
To Lemmy,
Once again you can not refute the facts so you call names. I do not wish to live in a world where anyone who does not agree with YOUR politics is defined as “Stupid” by the government and punished. That is what will happen if we elect another IVY league elitist like OBAMA.
Lenny wrote: “My Lord…….look at all these GOP supporters who apparently can’t frame a thought or opinion that’s not a direct quote of a McCain talking point. Talk about Idiocracy. Use your brain, people. Think. Ask questions. Don’t just repeat talking points like robotic zombies.”
Posted by: Reality Check | September 23, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
another pointless article. Who cares? Its the feds deceision, not of these guys are economic gurus.
Just show us you can lead and hire a smart, loyal appropiate staff.
Posted by: Jaydee | September 23, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
To TE:
See Kendra below… that does not sound like a sheep that sounds like a wolverine…
Posted by: HRC | September 23, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I just love how he parlays his grandmother’s hard work, moving up through middle management. Maybe he should try that instead of trying to leapfrog people who can lead
Posted by: mary | September 23, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Two perspectives from Obama/Biden is better than no perspectives from McCain/Palin on the crisis.
Posted by: :) | September 23, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
The culprit is more ignorance than corruption. Does Charles Rangel or Barney Frank really have a clue? Senator Reid or Speaker Pelosi? No. While personally profiting during their tenure (as is true on both sides of the aisle) our Congressional ‘leadership’ holds hearing after hearing because they were elected to office with very little knowledge on how things work…beyond the growth of their own portfolio. Hearings are really a chance for Congress to figure things out, usually after the fact. Our banking system needs no more statutory regulation, such as the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. That didn’t seem to work either. What we need are members of Congress who are astute and spend more time inflicinting sanctions on wrongdoers. At present, corporate robber barrons are rewarded, as with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. These were deals for cronies and Congress let it happen. It is an incentive to steal. We citizen taxpayers are vulnerable because they are not fit for the job of effective representation in a society that is both complex and transparent, if you understand the data. This current crisis is a product of non and mis diagnosis by ignorant Representatives and Senators. The ignorant are easily misled. Now we pay, and we will pay for a long time. The solution? For me, I went back to school, literally. America in general needs to get wise quick or we are going to run this Republic into the ground. While we bicker, America burns.
Posted by: jggrimm | September 23, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Karma, take a look at both sides. Obama is number two on the list of congressional delegates for receiving money from Fannie and Freddie, more than a half million. If you are going to look at staffers, be sure to look at cadidates. Did I mention that this list was built from delegates since 1989? That means in just the few years Obama has been there he has received more monsy than those that have been there since 1989.
Posted by: Readeverything | September 23, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Whoops! I can’t believe that old blowhard sandbagged me like that. Should
have picked Hillary.
Posted by: paulejb | September 23, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Wallstreet is mainstreet.
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
No, hold on a second Barry. What drives people crazy about politics is how you are even in this race. With his no record of achievements, tired Democratic talking points of attack, compulsion to write two autobiographies on his favorite subject(himself) and his complete zero record of bipartisanship when John McCain has been ACTUALLY DOING IT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
That’s what drives people crazy and will drive people to vote your slick mug back to your sleezy political arena in Chicago.
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Typical Socialist double talk. They are so used to their own followers listening to what they are TOLD to listen to instead of conservatives listening to what they actually hear.
Obama (the Messiah) followers = herded sheep.
Posted by: JP | September 23, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Obama lied to me when he said he would bring Hope and Change to Washington politics. I’m dissapointed. How can he look the American people in the eye and say Sen. McCain blanketedly opposes regulation when S.190 (Senate bill that McCain co-sponsored in 2005 that would have reduced Fannie and Freddie’s size, but opposed by Dodd, Obama, and Clinton because it would reduce their profits, and they were the three highest compensated Senators by Fannie and Freddie, in that order) proves that McCain looks at regulation and deregulation as a matter of policy, case-by-case, and not a blanket political matter of “you’re for deregulation and I’m for regulation.” Sen. Obama says McCain’s never met a regulation he liked, which is not true, but McCain’s never accused Sen. Obama of never meeting a regulation he didn’t like. So, Sen. Obama, are all regulations good?
Posted by: Obamacrat for McCain | September 23, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Obama is a self-serving finger-pointing wishy-washy backpedaling double-talking uhh-uhh-uhh-ing empty suit.
Talking straight and being trustworthy are apparently “above his pay grade” as well.
Meanwhile, the Democrats reek of culpability and gross ineptitude in this mortgage mess. And Obama tries to point the finger elsewhere, all the while knowing full well he has strong associative connections with Freddia and Fannie.
“If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”
—Senator John McCain, May 2006
Posted by: Riki Tiki | September 23, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
McCain’s too old for this and Palin’s garbage. Bottom line.
Posted by: CTSadler | September 23, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Obama Joe Biden
No way no how!
Posted by: cool | September 23, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
BIDEN IS FLAMING THE FIRE TO DESTROY OBAMA
obama is going to FIRE Biden in a week!!!
trust me Biden is out by next wee.
Posted by: gaff | September 23, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
What is with this new political policy of “guilty by association.” Both sides are trying to play that card and it’s getting pointless. The facts are that both McCain and Obama have Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac connections and neither of them saw this coming. The fact is that McCain has never called for deregulation on anything until his presidential run, so Obama has as much right to call him a free market supporter as McCain has of calling himself a Reagan conservative. The fact is that both McCain and Obama have zero clue what the government can do to save us from an even bigger depression than the 1930s, because both of them are simply professional politicians with no knowledge of the dynamics of financial markets. The fact is that Wall St. was under-regulated and over-regulated and it’s future crash will be due to overall MISMANAGEMENT, not because the GOP is too fiscally conservative or because the Democratic congress is too liberal. I know Greenspan didn’t deal Bernake a great hand, but both he and Paulson deserve to be put in jail for the way they’ve handled the sub-prime loan bubble burst. The fact is that this is neither the GOP’s nor the Democrat’s fault solely, but the fault of the entire Congress in general for letting the Fed seize power slowly over time. Ex-wall streeters control our entire money supply, which means they control our government. It doesn’t matter who you dolts vote into office, we’re still going to see a 5 to 10 year depression unless Congress starts holding the Fed accountable for its mess.
Posted by: nuculerman | September 23, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
I’m going to set it off big time. Really do any of us have it thaaaaat bad? Unless your in a public library right now searching on monster, you are on a computer “working” or at home paying $500 a year for an internet connection. The problem is we all have had a taste of luxioury in one way or the other and we don’t want to give it up. Obama we don’t need change, just tweak what can be tweaked
Posted by: frank | September 23, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
The only thing I’ve heard more than “now hold on a second” from Obama is “I’m offended by the suggestion.”
Posted by: Bob C | September 23, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Change? When has Biden or Obama reached across the aisle? Where is even one Centrist view? Obama keeps saying “I worked for years to address the regulation issues….” When? Where? Back in the Illinois State Senate? Is there even one bill in Congress about this? NO!! because such a bill would have been going against Dodd and Frank. That wasn’t going to happen and didn’t. Hillary saying this morning on Today Show that Frank was going to fix this? That lisping freak? He is out savior? You have got to be kidding me.
Posted by: David | September 23, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
This two party system stinks! I’ll be voting for a 3rd party candidate just to keep from “wasting my vote” on the other two losers. There’s little difference between the two as both support the welfare for Wall Street bailout designed to fleece the taxpayers and all their children for generations to come. At this point, Ralph Nader and Bob Barr are starting to look pretty good.
Posted by: Stephen Clark | September 23, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Only 62 percent of Americans pay federal income tax, meaning that 38 percent get a 100 percent refund of any taxes withheld. So Mr. Obama’s 95 percent that will receive money from the government includes roughly 33 percent of Americans who pay no income tax. One-third of Americans pay no income taxes yet would receive a government check of perhaps $1,000 or more.
Posted by: sp | September 23, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Did anyone see the interview that Scott Pelly did with Obama on 60 Minutes? The very last question that Scott asked Obama is what qualifications did he have to be POTUS. Obama changed the subject. AGAIN, Scott asked the question, what qualifications do you have for becoming POTUS. Obama was stumped and then said he was good at getting people to sit together in a room. HUH??? THAT’S IT?? It was very shocking and told me all I needed to know about this guy.
Posted by: Michigal | September 23, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
“Typical Socialist double talk. They are so used to their own followers listening to what they are TOLD to listen to instead of conservatives listening to what they actually hear.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
To Jim:
You nailed it. And where was the hard follow up question by the media to get him back on track. Where was the disdainful “Charles Gibson” like lecturing by the media. Once again the left wing MEDIA lets Obama say whatever he wants without correction.
Jim wrote: “Spoken in true Obama fashion. He tells Lauer ‘no, hold a a second Matt’ and then never responds with a direct answer. In this case he completely dodged any comment in response to what his own VP choice had said in reference to the bailout. And this is the ‘Hope and Change’ for the greatest nation on the planet!? Pahleez!”
Posted by: Reality Check | September 23, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
HILLARY WILL BE REPLACING JOE BIDEN AFTER THE DEBATES.
MAYBE THIS COUNTRY SHOULD HAVE A JIMMY CARTER ON STERIODS TYPE OF ADMINSTRATION “THAT’LL LEARN EM” BUT, THEN AGAIN, THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO BLAME BUSH…AND SINCE WE HAVE NO JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY…THE UNEDUCATED WILL HANG ON EVERY WORD THE SOCIALIST SAY.
I KNOW THE DEM’S SQUASHED REGULATION IN THE LATE 90′S AND IN 2005, I PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE I AM AFFECTED BY THE FINANCE WORLD IN MY BUSINESS…I KNOW THE MEDIA WILL NOT GO AFTER CHUCK SCHUMMER AND HOW HE HAS CONTRADICTED HIMSELF (TODAY) ABOUT REGULATION HE WANTED NO PART OF IN 2005. IT’S AMAZING THAT DODD IS EVEN GIVEN A PLATFORM. WHERE ARE THE DEM’S SCREAMING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, HEARINGS ON HOW WE GOT HERE…THERE HIDING BEHIND AN APPEAZING MEDIA BLAMING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION…KNOWING THAT IF THE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR OWN INVOLVEMENT AND THE $$$$ THEY HAVE MADE WERE TO GET OUT…THEIR CREDIBILITY WOULD BE IN THE TOILET.
NEW BUMPER STICKER; “ARE YOU BETTER OFF TODAY THEN YOU WERE IN 2006?”.
CHANGE AND HOPE…YEAH RIGHT
Posted by: Carol V | September 23, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
This is the worst election ever
–> Biden is going to QUIT next week!
–> Barry will ask Hillary to step in
–> Hillary will try and rescue this FIASCO!
Posted by: Peter | September 23, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Congress is charged with oversight of Freddie and Fannie and they failed miserably. Instituted under the Carter administration and pushed with new laws from the Clinton Justice Dept (Janet Reno), was the encouragement of lending to lower income people that in many instances had no business getting a mortgage and very little ability to pay it back. Banks were penalized for turning down low income applicants (red lining).
Also keep in mind Freddie and Fannie had the politicians in their back pockets through their contributions.
Posted by: Ernie | September 23, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Folks, all of this is our fault. Half truths, lies, pandering, ect. This is how every election is run by both parties. We say we hate it, but then we let the 30 second sound bites and the cable news talking heads tell us who to vote for.
The truth is, neither one of them has a voice in this(bet they won’t even show up to vote on it). So they can support it or not, it does not matter.
Here is a crazy idea, lets have 4 debates. Each one on a major issue in this election. The rules would be, you can describe your plan, but cannot interupt, or attack the other in any way. Also make it 90 minutes long. This way they cannot duck a question for that amount of time.
Details, lets hear some details. Obama wants healthcare…how, how much will it costs, how good is the coverage, how will it work, how will you get it passed. In order to make an informed decision, we need these answers. One thing you can be sure of, if we do not constantly press them for the details, we will only get them when it is too late.
This election is too important to allow the same old Washington games to be played on us.
Posted by: Stekcub | September 23, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Lies, deception and the sexist card…..In a presidential race without regard……To the truth for a people and country as a whole……Hence the McCain campaign as the story unfolds…..”Vote Obama/Biden”
Posted by: ingramris | September 23, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
“I can see Russia from my Porch” !
send the polar bear hater and teenage banisher back to Wasilla !
Posted by: philosopherkingtomas | September 23, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
“Change? When has Biden or Obama reached across the aisle?”
Haven’t you heard? Obama sponsored legislation to keep nukes out of terrorists hands. Wow! What a brilliant man with brilliant ideas! Did he come up with that idea all by himself?
Posted by: Bob C | September 23, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Man, do you GOPers have any independent thoughts? Seems like y’all just listen to Rush, take it in and then throw it back up during conversations/Web postings…
Posted by: ASU_Mountaineer | September 23, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Bill Clinton is still the most knowledgeble and insightful politician today. His appearance on The View was masterful. While dutifully saying he thought Obama would win…he continues to endorse McCain so Hillary can have a chance in 2012. Bill Clinton does not think Obama can be an effective President. He knows it, Obama knows it, and the American people know it.
Pull the McCain lever in November.
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
To Frank:
Just because you pay TOO MUCH for Internet Access ( $500 ) does not mean everbody in the US is living the life of luxury.
Jim wrote: “I’m going to set it off big time. Really do any of us have it thaaaaat bad? Unless your in a public library right now searching on monster, you are on a computer “working” or at home paying $500 a year for an internet connection. The problem is we all have had a taste of luxioury in one way or the other and we don’t want to give it up. Obama we don’t need change, just tweak what can be tweaked”
Posted by: Reality Check | September 23, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I can’t believe it…these guys are really going to take a go at this? Women will not buy it if Biden steps down and is replaced by Hillary…they will feel like they are being pandered to and taken for granted. I don’t think Hillary is short sighted enough to join the ticket. The Obama campaign will become a sinking ship, and the Clintons are too smart to run into a burning building.
This will have ramifications not only for the presidential race but for house and senate races around the country. If Obama drops Biden, it will spell the end of his campaign. November 4th will be early thanksgiving for Republicans. It’ll be a blood bath.
Obama is alread percieved as disingenuous and this is going to be the last nail in the coffin. I really didn’t believe the rumors, but they have to be setting this up. NO veteran politician as distinguished as Biden is would make these kinds of mistakes, this is strategic. It’s a ruse. It’s insulting if they think the public is going to buy it.
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Show me an honest Republican!!! May God have mercy on your souls for deceptively and maliciously duping the majority of Americans who can’t think for themselves.
Posted by: Negotiator_34 | September 23, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Show me an honest Republican!!! May God have mercy on your souls for deceptively and maliciously duping the majority of Americans who can’t think for themselves.
Posted by: Negotiator_34 | September 23, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Obama’s claims about bringing people together, reaching across party lines, yada yada is a bunch of nonsense. I live in Illinois and can tell you that outside of Chicago this guy had never even been heard of until he ran for the US Senate. A lot of political people have gone through his very thin record in Illinois and can find very few instances where he even supported a bipartisan bill, much less initiated it and pushed it through. Just like his time in the US Senate, his time in Illinois was spent giving speeches, not writing bills.
Posted by: Dirk | September 23, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Lies, Deception and sexist card….In a presidential race without regard…..To the truth for a people and country as a whole…..Hence the McCain campaign as the story unfolds….Vote Obama/Biden
Posted by: ingramris | September 23, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Joe Biden’s denunciation of his own campaign’s ad to Katie Couric got so much attention last night that another odd note in the interview slipped by.
He was speaking about the role of the White House in a financial crisis.
“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed,” Biden told Couric. “He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’”
As Reason’s Jesse Walker footnotes it: “And if you owned an experimental TV set in 1929, you would have seen him. And you would have said to yourself, ‘Who is that guy? What happened to President Hoover?’
Posted by: joey | September 23, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
It is refreshing to see that the Obama internet monitors have gotten tired of hogging the message boards. Welcome to the opposition.
It maybe that Obama’s compaign is indefensible. So many mistakes, #1 No Hillary, #2 Joe Biden.
Joe will do what Resko, Wright, Bill and others have been unable to do. Eliminate this totally unqualified person for the presidential race.
Posted by: Frank | September 23, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
I would think Obama would have followed “the yellow brick road” where HOPE was as a choice of favor in his bookends for his collection.He was to follow in the second case of books to be written in the 21st century of American Whitehousers by parting the second part. Tongue twistering as it may seem it does “follow the Hope in the yellow brick road affair of white watering.
An american Opinion
Posted by: Nosamak | September 23, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
If I have to listen to Obama claim to have all the answers I will scream.
Who is his master? He is a puppet and someone else is in control. Be afraid, be very afraid—
Hide your money, too because he will need it when he pays back whoever is pushing him forward.
He has NO clue how all this economic fallout happened. Are you kidding me?
For one thing he is too young…he hasn’t even taken his tricycle around the block yet and we want to give him the purse strings to our country?
Well, you want it –you got it. I hope you like it cause it ain’t gonna be pretty.
Posted by: Molly Bee | September 23, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
JOE BIDEN’s MENTAL and SELECTIVE HISTORY knowledge is slipping…
its called SELECTIVE AMNESIA!!! LOL!!!
Joe Biden’s denunciation of his own campaign’s ad to Katie Couric got so much attention last night that another odd note in the interview slipped by.
He was speaking about the role of the White House in a financial crisis.
“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed,” Biden told Couric. “He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’”
As Reason’s Jesse Walker footnotes it: “And if you owned an experimental TV set in 1929, you would have seen him. And you would have said to yourself, ‘Who is that guy? What happened to President Hoover?’
Posted by: st | September 23, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
He doesn’t answer Matt Lauer’s question because he can’t. His campaign is based on slogans and catch phrases not on ideas and accomplishments.
In the case of AIG, McCain was decisive, like a leader. Obama refused to give an opinion as if the AIG bailout was a surprise. The thought of Obama being president is scarey.
Posted by: Valerius | September 23, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Would America vote for a candidate that had a close relationship with Timothy McVeigh? Well Barry’s relationship with Bill Ayers is the same.
Ayers-McVeigh, two American terrorists bent on killing our citizens.
Posted by: LI-Bry | September 23, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
“both [Bernanke] and Paulson deserve to be put in jail”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Only 62 percent of Americans pay federal income tax, meaning that 38 percent get a 100 percent refund of any taxes withheld. So Mr. Obama’s 95 percent that will receive money from the government includes roughly 33 percent of Americans who pay no income tax. One-third of Americans pay no income taxes yet would receive a government check of perhaps $1,000 or more.
Posted by: Belle Star | September 23, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Hey Nobama. Where have you been. McCain has NOT been a frintrunner in deregulation. In fact quite the opposite!!. More Nobama BS?
And Thanks Uncle Matt Lauer for being an uninformed shill for the Dems.
Posted by: steve | September 23, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Deregulation is the problem, BarryO? The SEC regulates. Congress has mandatory housing finance targets. Congress “regulates” Fannie and Freddie. Congress mandates “mark-to market” accounting. Fannie and Freddie also make you the largest recipient of contributions after the Chairman of the Banking Committee, but this should be ignored as part of the regulatory process. Regulation by people like you is the answer! Change, that’s what we get in our pockets if the American people make the mistake of electing you, BarryO.
Posted by: Jaime | September 23, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Obama may try to ditch Biden… What a poor decision…. Obama will lose.
Posted by: GetSmart | September 23, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
To ASU_Mountaineer:
Again you are unable to respond to facts so you just call anybody who disagrees with YOUR politics “Stupid”. The American People are paying attention now and that kind of speech by Obama’s supporters is going to offend all fair minded people.
ASU_Mountaineer wrote: “Do you GOPers have any independent thoughts? Seems like y’all just listen to Rush, take it in and then throw it back up during conversations/Web postings.”
Posted by: Reality Check | September 23, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
paulson is a an american hero. I hope they hold onto him into the next administration. He will only be second to alexander hamilton and because of greenspan will be on the new $5000 bill
Posted by: diet pepsi | September 23, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
I am in awe of the posts on this thread. I have never seen so many crazy conspiracy theories. It almost puts the crazy “Clinton Body Count” to shame. I think it has become pretty obvious that McCain has already lost the election.
Posted by: Jeff | September 23, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Ernie: so Fannie and Freddie WEREN’T Founded in 1938? Way to go genius! And the Justice Department can’t write laws!!! Brilliant!
Sorry Rodd Peters: For seven year’s George W. Bush has had the opportunity to implement stricter regulation across the housing and financial markets. That’s his job. Blame one person…GWB! The worst president since WWII.
Sorry JG Grimm: President Bush let it happen!
Carol B:
I KNOW THE DEM’S SQUASHED REGULATION IN THE LATE 90′S …..Now That’s Funny! The democrats are the free market trickle down folks and the GOP is the Big government bunch? Bwa ha ha ha ha…
How about: “are you better off now than you were in 2000?” That’s the question that matters in the presidential race.
“Are you better off now that 2006?”
That’s a question for your local congressional race.
We need a new broom to sweep clean. Throw the bums and rascals out. All of ‘em.
Posted by: johneeee | September 23, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Obama was right. This election is about judgment. And Obama has proven over over that his judgment is not only bad, he’s incompetent!
The most important decision a presidential candidate makes is who his VP will be. Obama chose this buffoon.
He opposed the wildly successful surge, claimed over and over again that it wasnt working when it was, and still is too smal and petty a man to give credit where it is due. He would have pulled troops out at the height of violence dooming Iraq and the entire region to escalating war, instead of the increasing stability the surge has brought.
He hired the corrupt leaders of Fannie Mae as top advisers. In 3 years he has taken more money from Fannie Mae than anyone else in congress has in their much longer careers save Chris Dodd. He engaged in a shady land deal with Tony Rezko, he kicked off his political career with terrorist William Ayers, his “spiritual adviser” mentor and friend of 20 years is an American hating racist and Obama had “no idea”.
Obama: Its the judgment stupid!
Posted by: Obama Is Incompetent | September 23, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
If the ‘rumor’ about Joe Biden being replaced with Hillary in October turns out to be true, Obama is definitely toast. It would be so obvious as to why he was doing it, he’d have even less credibility than he does now. I can’t imagine Obama’s massive ego having to put up with Hillary. However, he did make a HUGE mistake by not picking her for VP and he definitely knows it.
Posted by: Michigal | September 23, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Seems the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. These guys are eating each other! LOL.
Posted by: D | September 23, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Jeff, the economy hysteria is over.
Time to get back to all of the other issues.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
As an Irishman living in America, this election is quite perplexing. You have the Obama supporters complaining about Palin having no qualifications yet Obama’s qualifications are even less than hers. You have Obama complaining about McCain’s 25 years of experience in the US Senate when Biden has even more. You have Obama saying McCain wasn’t for regulating financial organizations when he attempted to get a bill pushed forward to do just that. We see messages on here from Obama supporters saying McCain supporters have no original thoughts yet these same Obama supporters are doing nothing but spewing forth the Obama talking points. What’s really at issue is the economic direction of America. Ireland was mired in a socialist economic scheme for generations until Ireland went much more capitalist. Now, the term used is “Irish miracle” to describe the turnaround. Yet, in America, a large group of people are demanding a move to more socialism, as represented by Obama, which in the long run will destroy American prosperity. I find it perplexing that in the sheer zeal to achieve some vague thing called fairness some Americans are willing to sacrifice everyone’s potential for success.
Posted by: James | September 23, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
In 1787, Thomas Jefferson wrote: “I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.”
It is time for a 21st century rebellion.
It is obvious to all free-thinking people that Congress has failed in its duty to faithfully represent the interests of the American people.
That’s why we need to “Clean the Slate in 2008″ and vote them ALL out of office on November 4th.
Then, make history by electing an Independent candidate for President.
Posted by: Bob McNeil | September 23, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Dear Jeff,
Are you serious? How do those denial flakes taste?
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
The Average John Smith: There are a lot more than just three strikes against McCain: Keating5, Boeing, McCain-Feingold (atrocious law), he has lobbyists running his campaign, He is totally out of touch on just about everything, he ALMOST washed out at Annapolis and then he wrecked three jets. That bum should be washing dishes.
Posted by: johneee | September 23, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Ah, Mr/Ms G. Smart, Your own party’s Senator Clinton stated this very morning that there’s enough blame to go around for EVERYONE, not just the Republicans!
Posted by: freesia | September 23, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Listen, People, get me a fork! ……………….. And would someone Please turn of the damn stove!………. Obama is DONE! ………. The only thing that The Hill Pill would do would help the dems not get embarrassed by getting beat in a landslide. Yes People I said it first…A LANDSLIDE IS COMING!
Posted by: derrek michigan | September 23, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Joe Biden moved away from Scranton PA when he was 10. 10!!!!
At ten he was fixing health care, getting band-aids for the neighborhood kids. He suported the troops for years, troop 343 by purchasing their cookies. He created a stimlus package giving low interest rate allowance to children who wanted to purchase their first fort.
And he created equal playtime for girl, helping to break the cudies ceiling.
Biden and Scranton…. gotta love it
Posted by: Erik | September 23, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Biden is infinetly more qualified than Sarah “Caribou Barbie” Palin. She is a total ditz, and the few times they’ve let her off her leash to actually do interviews (one so far, I don’t count the lovefest with Hannity)she’s shown that she is a total airhead. The bloom is off the rose Republicans, and she’s a total empty skirt. Her favorability numbers are plumetting.
Posted by: McCain is Too Old to be President | September 23, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Obama’s comment is nonsensical… criticizing McCain for supposedly favoring deregulation for 26 years, yet claims McCain’s recent railing against regulation is what drives people crazy! Typical Obama gaff… challenge him in any meaningful way and he can’t think straight.
Posted by: T J Green | September 23, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
“Lord knows, Obama needs all 18 million Hillary voters, however many of them have shifted to McCain/Palin and are just fine with that switch.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Look Everyone. Some lib a few posts ago said that Big Mac and Sarah Baracuda have allready lost….. he he he,, Hu Hu HU HA HA HA! You have GOT to be Kidding!!!! Turn ou the lights the Dem Party is OVER!
Posted by: derrek michigan | September 23, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Saying Obama is communist is quite convenient since America follows 8 out of 10 of the guidelines for communism outlined in Marx’s Communist Manifesto
It doesn’t matter who wins the climate is screwed the economy is screwed, and human nature will prevail to not do anything about it until it is too late.
Posted by: DK | September 23, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
People, is this not clear proof that what government touches, it destroys?
Government is simply too big. It attempts to do too much.
With that in mind, shouldn’t we elect the candidate closest to a “limited government” position? Though McCain is no Libertarian (shucks), at least he’s closer to that position than Obama.
Fear anyone selling government as a solution…. cuz we’re living through proof positive that it’s the problem!
Posted by: Gift of the Maji | September 23, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
“She is a total ditz, and the few times they’ve let her off her leash to actually do interviews (one so far, I don’t count the lovefest with Hannity)she’s shown that she is a total airhead. The bloom is off the rose Republicans, and she’s a total empty skirt. Her favorability numbers are plumetting.”
What are your sororities colors? I’ll send you a totally awesomesome handout for all your totally brilliant sisters, and you can all sit around and talk about like what a total ditz sarah palin is and like how you wish she would like go away because you think she’s so totally onus.
Posted by: Lol | September 23, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house!
John McCain thinks the fundamentals of our economy are strong!
John McCain thinks the SEC is called the FEC!
Sarah Palin helped write the Bush Doctrine!
Who makes Gaffes???? Easy fellow Republicans, go easy…
Posted by: Jeanie | September 23, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
“The fact is that McCain has never called for deregulation on anything until his presidential run, so Obama has as much right to call him a free market supporter as McCain has of calling himself a Reagan conservative.”
Nuculerman, apparently you didn’t see the story yesterday that talked about how Alan Greenspan had warned of this economic debacle several years ago. How Fannie and Freddie were taking on too much risky debt. And that their ignorance was going to create a national economic crisis. The story also mentioned that John McCain (on queue to Greenspan’s warning) was co-sponsor to a bill that would have put restrictions on these financial fools; resticting the amount of risky debt they as a financial institution could incur. Only the bill was killed in both houses with a democrat majority, lead by the not-so-dynamic duo of Frank & Dodd. So McCain did not stand by and do nothing as you have mistakenly stated. But what did Senator Obama do? He sided with the jokers who refused to head off our current economic crisis.
But I would agree that this whole economic crud was caused by greedy, self-centered idiots on both sides of the political fence. Frank & Dodd should be in jail for their part.
Posted by: MisterBeee | September 23, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Guys, Guys, Guys….don’t you see what’s happening? This is the beginning of the October Nuclear Plan for Biden to be replaced by Hillery. They did it with the race for the Senate in NJ and now they will do it in the Big Show. Obama will do anything to win! And the Hillery fems will fall right in line. Obama’s people are ruthless!
Posted by: Paul | September 23, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Lol, it’s a shame the economy bump is over, now let’s get back to reality, no-one can fix the economy, especially the Junior Senator. So, let’s vote for someone with experience, and stop bashing our VP. I’m sorry she is dedicated to the ticket.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
How, exactly, do you “throw the homeless under the bus”?
They’re homeless – they’re already under the bus.
More juvenile analysis fromt the left.
Morons.
Posted by: Bob | September 23, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Doug, they are all loons, however, McCain has been a loon for 26 years. I’m not supporting John McCain for the same reason I didn’t support John Kerry, they’ve been in DC too long.
The longer they’re in Washington the loonier they become. Take Joe Lieberman for example. This guy went from Dem Senator to Dem VP running mate to Independent and now he’s a Republican? He hated the Republicans – oh that’s right, he wanted to stay in office. Do anything to remain in power – loons. Any time a politician is in office more than two terms, they become loony and out of touch. BTW they ALL lie so get over it!!! We should only tolerate the lies for two terms and then they should be voted out. If they won’t pass term limits we should vote them out.
Posted by: CZ | September 23, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
To Man from Ireland:
Sometimes an outsiders needs to point out the obvious. Thanks for the clarity.
Irishman wrote: “As an Irishman living in America, this election is quite perplexing. You have the Obama supporters complaining about Palin having no qualifications yet Obama’s qualifications are even less than hers. You have Obama complaining about McCain’s 25 years of experience in the US Senate when Biden has even more. You have Obama saying McCain wasn’t for regulating financial organizations when he attempted to get a bill pushed forward to do just that. …”
Posted by: Reality Check | September 23, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Jeanie,
Palin went to Kuwait, Iraq and Germany almost a year before Obama ever did!
wake up!!!!
Posted by: The Average John Smith | September 23, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Hillary does not want the VP position.
And she said she wouldn’t be the Dems attack dog against Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
I personally think Obama did not pick hillary because he knew someone would get him whacked to make her president. I really believe this.
Change isn’t Joe Biden, Biden represents the gridlock in washington that Americans have had it with. I want to see both the republican and democratic criminals in the senate thrown out and replaced.
Posted by: B | September 23, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Obama-is-hope-and-light is a talking points MACHINE! Bravo, repeat-o-matic! Way do demonstrate your complete lack of originality. I can get the talking points anywhere. Got anything original?
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
I am not in a state of denial. What I see is a last gasp of effort by select individuals to actual turn this into a political race. I think I can rest my support on the fact that the only thing unifying an offense against him is racism and irrational religious beliefs. It further does not help their cause that the only people that seem to be motivated are right-wing Evangelicals. I will stand by my belief that McCain is simply done.
He looks tried and confused. I think one too many cancer treatments may have finally taken a toll, though unlike these Drudge Asylum drifters… I will admit I have no proof of that. I would venture to say that I believe his days in the Senate are numbered as well, which is actually sad given that he is likable.
It further does not help that his only support comes by way an unqualified individual. It really isn’t her age. It isn’t her lack of experience. It is her education, a BS in journalism is not qualified candidate.
Posted by: Jeff | September 23, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Kerry was up by 20 points in the polls at this time when he ran.
Polls mean nothing.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Come on people Obama is far more qualified than McCain when it comes to foreign policy experience. After all he visited Pakistan for THREE WHOLE WEEKS during his college years with a terrorist buddy of his. What more can we ask for?
Posted by: cspolj | September 23, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
This is absolutely hilarious! Biden keeps doing what he does best – speak without thinking of the consequences. Of course he is 100% accurate this was a shameful ad full of lies. But the really funny part is Barrack Hussein Obama was actually stupid enough to pick Biden, a walking time bomb. Poor dimocrats. They are watching their assured victory vaporize right before their eyes. Again! McCain/Palin ’08!
Posted by: Ping2007 | September 23, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
“This is the beginning of the October Nuclear Plan for Biden to be replaced by Hillery.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Jeanie,
She never went to Iraq. You should wake up. It’s a bonehead comment made by the campaign staff which was later admitted to be a false statment. They also claimed she went to Ireland, yet she never stepped off the plane, it was for refueling. Why must people be so loyal to parties and listen to one liners to spew back as a part of their arguement. Can’t we just admit the better candidate. Doesn’t matter the party, having the smartest person, is the smartest decision.
Posted by: Bob | September 23, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Obama’s brother lives in a hut in Africa.
That’s all the foreign policy experience I need.
Posted by: Bob | September 23, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I have looked at the two last presidential daily state-by-state polls covering sept and october. They match exactly the polling that is happening today…. exactly…. obama is not ahead in any… I see no possable way technicaly that NoBama Can Wine!
Posted by: derrek michigan | September 23, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
“Palin went to Kuwait, Iraq and Germany almost a year before Obama ever did!
wake up!!!! You’re spewing lefty kook talking point rhetoric!”
Posted by: The Average John Smith | Sep 23, 2008 1:54:04
MORE REPUBLICAN LIES !!! Palin NEVER crossed the border into Iraq. The Commanders there have confirmed that. Just through that into the lie basket along with many other Republican lies.
Posted by: Obama is Hope and Light | September 23, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Emma your comments were spot on. Obama’s compaign is just hate reaping. It looks for haters and then says anything to get them to vote for him. He has no record. I live in Illinois and he has done nothing for us.
Posted by: Gavel | September 23, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Hey Obama, you can’t vote “PRESENT” the rest of your life. Wake up and come to the election…
Posted by: Justice | September 23, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
What will really be special is when all of us can’t afford internet because prices will sky-rocket while the value of the dollar will plummet. Then we’ll only be able to afford to argue with ourselves. Seriously, guys. Watch Glenn Beck. He seems to be the only media outlet who has the right sense of where this country is heading. The guy almost cried last week on national television when he realized the world we’re leaving for our children. We’re ten trillion dollars in debt and we’re giving out $85 billion bailouts and printing $180 billion in new money to provide liquidity to a dying market. If our government were our closest friend, we’d cut all his credit cards and put him into rehab. And there’s no safety net. We can’t crawl behind the Euro, or move to Hong Kong because we’ve spent everyone else’s money too. When we fall, so does the rest of the free world. The American high standard of living is about to crash and burn. And we’re still seriously debating who to elect as President? It doesn’t matter… unless of course Obama or McCain decides to call for the banishment of the Fed. But I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
Posted by: nuculerman | September 23, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
I saw a T-shirt that someone was wearing that said
Barack Obama
JIVE TURKEY.
LMAO! So appropriate!
Posted by: Keri | September 23, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
So, Bob
Your argument for Obama is “cant we admit that Obama is the best and stop debating”?
Posted by: Bob | September 23, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Sarah Palin is a tremendous speaker. Clearly the best of the 4 candidates.
Posted by: John | September 23, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
whoever “t” is ~ PLEASE!go right ahead and vote !
Joe Biden said, and I quote,” We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people.” “It’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”
If I understand this, and I am pretty sure I do, this is socialism at its finest! This would be nothing more than redistribution of wealth. This is NOT what America needs! Equating patriotism to higher taxes is insane, and if he wants to get America out of a rut then ALL Americans taxes should be lower, actually they should be even!
Why should someone pay more than me just because they make more than me? It’s like saying bread cost me $2.00 a loaf but you make twice as much as me so you have to pay $4.00. The word he used in this statement scares me; TAKE, he wants to take money from Americans who make more than 250 thousand a year and give it to lower wage earners and in a lot of cases people who currently have no tax burden. Please study this issue and when you do be sure you remember that higher taxes hurt the economy no matter what a person makes. If he raises taxes on those who make over 250 thousand a year (and by the way, that’s not rich) those people will have to decide not to invest or not to hire a worker in order to pay that higher tax. This would be a disaster. I encourage everyone to write or call legislators and ask them to begin major tax reform and to look at the flat tax or sales tax only. If you make 20 thousand a year or if you make 20 million a year the tax burden should be equal!
Posted by: Deegie | September 23, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Good point, samhiguchi.
Sadam is hanged; democracy is growing and Iraq is a VICTORY!
Posted by: Peterson | September 23, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
NO WAY NO-BAMA CAN WIN
I have looked at the two last presidential daily state-by-state polls covering sept and October. They match exactly the polling that is happening today…. exactly…. obama is not ahead in any.. Not only that….. the last to elections showed the dems had Virginia and Pennsylvania leaning there way….those two states are now eather tied up or leaning republican.. . I see no possible way technically that NoBama Can Win!
Posted by: derrek michigan | September 23, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Palin never went to Iraq…she saw Iraq from the borders of Kuwait (if you listen to an interview she once had)..so like Russia viewed from Alaska, she has great insight right???
And she landed in Germany because on her way to Ireland her plan stopped to refuel.
Her lies pile up higher and higher…maybe you think they are not lies but just omitting some things still make you a liar by omission….
Just like Clinton saying “I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”…guess it depends how you view sex and the truth.
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Bev | September 23, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
“The American high standard of living is about to crash and burn.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Actually “Bob” there is no “fairness doctrine” in China. In fact there are NO opposing voices in China…just like on American radio where it’s all right wing, all the time. You jerkoffs that think there’s still a liberal media bias need to actually spin the dial from time to time. Rush Limbaugh, the fat junkie, has scared the HELL out of broadcasters. It’s only a matter of time before radio does to him what television did (cancel him).
Posted by: johneee | September 23, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Obama is a nice guy but I wouldn’t want an inexperienced guy with a VP who gridlocks everything to be in the white house.
Go John and Sarah!
Posted by: Obama = Going Down | September 23, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Check the polls on media bias lately Johneeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?
Everbody knows that the mainstream media is in the tank for Obama. Some of them have all but admitted it. Educate yourself before you spout ignorance.
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Did anybody read this article? I mean, what drive ME crazy about politics is that nobody pays any attention at all… not even the politicians “answering” a question with political stumping that has nothing to do with the point at hand?
Hasn’t Biden been in office long enough to have seen the financial crisis coming in all his wisdom? Hasn’t he served in office long enough to take a stand if he dared doing so?
In fact, the only person NOT having been in office to have enough experience to understand the government’s proper role in the economy is Obama, who is ironically asking to be in charge of the whole mess.
And every time he is asked what his ideas are, he either attacks McCain and the Republicans for not doing it his way while simultaneously not telling us what his ideas actually are… except they are not what hasn’t worked.
What kind of “answer” is that?
All politics aside, when asked to add regulation to the likes of Fanny and Freddie, Obama, in one of the few votes he didn’t vote present, DENIED increased regulation.
So where does he get off accusing McCain of his own evils?
THAT is what drives people crazy about politics. Two faced, power hungry wordsmiths that offer no answers and base their rise to power on being the “other choice” that what they argue is wrong… without showing what they believe to be right.
People are SICK & TIRED of picking the lessor of two evils. THAT’S what’s crazy about politics.
As a Republican, I’m insulted by McCain’s departure from the truth in attack ads and appaled by Obama’s overall lack of leadership and record.
So I too am stuck having to choose the lessor of two evils.
And that drive me CRAZY.
Scott
Posted by: Scott | September 23, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
To all Democrats supporting Obama. What exactly do you want your country to do for you? Obama has proffered a plan to redistribute wealth from the “rich”, nationalize health care, and subsume America’s interests to the UN/EU. Is this American? This country was built by courageous independent people who blazed their own path. In the past and in resent times, America has taken the initiative to act in its interests (see the Monroe Doctrine, the Lend-Lease Act, the Truman Doctrine, the Marshall Plan, the Bush Doctrine). Obama would have none of this. He rather confer with foreign leaders in regard to what is in the best interest of the United States. This is not American. Likewise, are we the people not entitled to choose our own path without government interference socially and financially? Why is it that in your mind’s eye the fruits of one’s labor must be shared with those who do not toil as the one who earned it? This is not American. Ironic that JFK implored American to not ask what your country can do for you, rather ask, what you can do for your country. We are living in sad times when so many Americans subscribe to failed Marxist / Leninist/Socialist/ Communist ideals.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
“Sarah Palin is a tremendous speaker. Clearly the best of the 4 candidates.”
Posted by: John | Sep 23, 2008 2:03:46 PM
OH PLEASE !!! She has a high pitched nasally voice that is like listening to nails scratching a chalk board. She hasn’t deviated one iota from her GOP Convention speech, and does not give interviews.
Posted by: Obama is Hope and Light | September 23, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
“we have so many voters that lack education and maturity”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
The American people have much less power than you think. And I like how I attributed my comment to both sides and im “right wing” which I am far from. Your anger fueld comments prove my point—johnee
Posted by: Bob | September 23, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
This is a democratic ploy! The goal now is for Biden to leave gracefully and for Obama to bring Hillary on. Its a democratic method of saving face.
Posted by: HeSays | September 23, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
I think what aggravates me the most about both of these candidates is that neither one of them are going to vote on this bill…in other words, not showing any leadership.
HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. CONTACT THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY VOTE ON THE BAILOUT BILL!!
Posted by: Mark | September 23, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
No, Sarah is the best speaker of the 4 because she speaks directly and honestly with the people. She IS one of the people. Authenticity helps public speaking.
Actually, speaking well in public is a gift. You either have it or you don’t. Most of the convention speeches were real yawners, but were given by “experienced” people. Her speech was mesmerizing.
Posted by: John | September 23, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Belle Starr
Alex Baldwin and you have a lot in comin!! BYE!! Go enjoy SOCIALISM!
Posted by: derrek michigan | September 23, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Sorry bell I meant a Lot in Common….A lot in common.
Posted by: derrek michigan | September 23, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
None of you have a clue. You want to know who is going to win? They are. You want to know who is going to lose? You and I will. All of us.
We are hyper-inflating our currency. If you don’t know what this means then do a search on Germany after WW1.
The real impact of this is that the Government will own everything including your savings. We have no freedoms… ty Bush & Democrats. We have no dollars…. ty Bush and Democrats.
We have become Animal Farm.. the last two pages of the book.
Posted by: m e brooks | September 23, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
to Jeanie—Palin never said she could see Russia from her house. o back and reread the comment.
Posted by: retrojeannie | September 23, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
People are stupid.
Posted by: Griswel | September 23, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
It is terrifying to think what will happen to our economy if Obama is elected. He knows absolutely nothing other than what his campaign and advisors tell him, including understanding the difficulties we are experiencing as a nation. This situation cannot be handed over to someone like him….way too riskly…even before the wall street melt down appeared.
Posted by: Mary Richey | September 23, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
OK Obama is hope and light? what does that mean – hope and light? sounds like he is your god or something! wake up wake up! Obama doesn’t care about you no more than McCain does – and frankly I don’t care whether they care about me. I just want them to go to Washington cut taxes reduce the size of government and stay the hell out of the way! By the way I will vote for McCain, something about Obama seems shady, so much for your hope and light, good luck with that.
Posted by: Deegie | September 23, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
barack is getting his advice on this issue from pelosi, of all people. it’s her obstructionist congress that is largely responsible for this mess in the first place. god help us if these loons get control of all three branches of government !
Posted by: el polacko | September 23, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
GOP wants the USA to fail and vote for Mccain/Palin which will be ARMEGEDON FOR THE WORLD. McCain will push every red button he can find when another country makes him MAD. And who will suffer the American people. Your children will be sent to war to die, your retirements will be gone due to the stock marketing collapsing and your employer filing for bankruptcy if they haven’t went overseas, McCain will still be setting up a 911 commission to determine what should be done about WWIII which he started by pressing red buttons, Wal-Mart will be the only store we can shop because all others have failed, and China via Russia will have another country to run aka United States of America.
Funny how most thing that Barack talked about during the primary’s as far as foreign policy where tasked by the WH before his trip overseas. Hmmm, sounds like Barack already has the job to me.
By the way, how many trips did Bush take overseas before he was elected president and while in office?
Posted by: EveryDay | September 23, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Obama picked Biden, shows lack of judgement to me. There are about a 100 reasons why I would not vote for Obama, but the most compelling reason is: Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Biden, Kennedy, Barney Franks, Chris Dodd, Charlie Wrangle…..Need I go on. If that is not a fast track to socialism, then what do you call it>>
Posted by: F. Worden | September 23, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Tell Sarah Palin to give an interview if you think she is the best speaker of the 4…let us see what gaffs and missteps she makes.
No pat answers from her McCain puppet…just in her own words.
40 days and counting for the team and 24 days and counting for Palin…I will not sell my vote for a pig in a poke…I am smarter then that.
Posted by: Bev | September 23, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Thank you Bob for all of your intellectual insight. Your grasp of politics is absolutely mind-boggling – why the hell is McCain even running for president when we could vote for you, Bob? You know, I respect many of my conservative/Republican peers, however, the name calling is unbelievable from you guys. Because someone has a different point of view, or opinion than you they are automatically degraded. The extent of the polarization of parties that this election has created is disgusting and the lowest form of humanity. No wonder America is hated across the globe – we can’t even get along with each other, let alone someone who is “foreign” to us. It’s 2008 folks, in case you were unaware. If we all worked together, like true AMERICANS, this world would be a much better place.
Thank you Bob, for affirming my fear and widening the chasm between morality and ethics.
We’re ALL screwed.
Cheers!
Posted by: Chris | September 23, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Hitler and Stalin campaigned for “change”. Can someone please define “change”? All I hear is change this and change that? What exactly do you intend on changing?
Posted by: costanza | September 23, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
I miss a time when the media wasn’t a catalyst for ignorance. I miss a general public that knew their history, politics and were less worried about the aesthetics of a pair of jeans or the color of a candidates skin. I miss informed intelligent political debate.
Posted by: altuttle | September 23, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Shocking and impressive move by Lauer to challenge Obama like that.
Posted by: Rob | September 23, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
I trust Obama, I do not trust McCain. Obama has my vote.
Posted by: Jeannetta | September 23, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
“Obama picked Biden, shows lack of judgement to me.”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
“GOP wants the USA to fail and vote for Mccain/Palin which will be ARMEGEDON FOR THE WORLD…..”
LOL. What no real facts? Just rhetoric? You forgot to mention that John McCain will take our children and eat them too!
Is this your version of intelligent discourse? Ignorance is the greatest threat to democracy.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
And more of Joe …..
“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed,” Biden told Katie Couric. “He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’”
As Reason’s Jesse Walker footnotes it: “And if you owned an experimental TV set in 1929, you would have seen him. And you would have said to yourself, ‘Who is that guy? What happened to President Hoover?’”
Posted by: susie | September 23, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
In one day Obama had to re address a statement he made to clarify it. He has a short memory.
I wouldn’t vote for him because is deceitful and lacks integrity. He lacks experience and is on the take. He is an agitator. No a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Posted by: cammie | September 23, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Try to think for a second…
Our economy is heading for a crash. It is inevitable. It cannot be avoided. The choice we have is this…
1 – Let it crash and go into a depression which will self correct.. Those with savings and cash will keep it
2 – Dump money into the economy to avoid a depression/recession which will cause hyperinflation, destroy the savings of all Americans, Destroy the Dollar, and then cause a depression which will last much longer.
Do you honestly think that McCain or Obama have any solutions? LoL
The current monetary policy was instituted by Bush 1, continued by Clinton, and then continued by Dubya Bush jr.
Cheap money… Artificial Growth/Bubble..The balloon has to deflate or it will pop.
Except we are putting tape on the balloon and the balloon is getting bigger and bigger. There is a point when tape won’t stop the POP. We should of let the balloon leak out air but we aren’t doing that.
Posted by: m e brooks | September 23, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Does anyone remember how the Obama biased media predicted that he would win California by 10 points in the primaries? But then Hillary slammed him by 8 points.
The point is the Bradley effect. People tell the pollsters they are going to vote for Obama. But they really don’t. You see their afraid to appear racist. This happened in quite a few states in the primaries.
So if the polls say that Obama has 50%, then you can minus at least 7 percent.
We can be relieved that unless he is up by at least 8 points, he more than likely will not win.
We can rest easy, but let’s work harder.
This guy is scary. His associations, his gaffes, his lies, his voting present over 100 times, he’s had the 2nd largest payout from Fannie Mae(fact). And Fannie Mae is where all of this financial mess started. SCARY STUFF! Obama supporters, you know the truth. Save your country. When you get in the booth vote your conscious. Get off the koolaid.
Posted by: Ann | September 23, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
A noun, a verb, and a personal attack on McCain.
Posted by: fsteele | September 23, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Here is a fact: Wealthy people have lawyers who spend enormous amounts of time helping them avoid paying taxes. They create entities, trusts, send money over seas, create “charitable” foundations that are tax exempt, etc. So it doesn’t matter whether the tax laws change or not for them because they find ways around everything.
Here is another fact: I don’t care what McCain or Obama says at this point, taxes are going up for everyone (except maybe the rich because they will just have their lawyers help them find ways to work around them). If you believe otherwise, especially knowing the state of the economy, then you are in for a rude awakening.
Posted by: Just a FACT or 2 | September 23, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Let me lay out basic reality for you Republican, spouting off Limbaugh Talking Points:
1. The Republican Congress from 1995 to 2006 worked overtime to deregulate the financial sector, so the could benefit their Wall Street campaign contributors.
2. Bush did NOTHING to avert this economic crisis. He was too focused on Iraq, and destroying the City of New Orleans.
3. Obama warned the Bush Administration of predatory lending practices way back in 2005, and the Republicans DID NOTHING.
I feel CHANGE IS COMING. It will come from a young Senator from Abraham Lincoln’s state, and not from a 26-year veteran of the Senate who is steeped in the philosophy of DEREGULATION, was a poster boy for the Keating 5 Savings and Loan Scandal, and whose campaign is run by WASHINGTON LOBBYISTS, including McCain’s Campaign Manager, Rick Davis, who took TWO MILLION DOLLARS in sweetheart deals from Fannie May!
OBAMA FOR HOPE AND CHANGE !!!
Posted by: Obama is Hope and Light | September 23, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
I’m reading all these posts by liberals and they all seem so mean, nasty, bitter and shrill. You people need to lighten up. Yes, Obama is a clown. No, he will not save your and he certainly will not help this country. Face it, he’s a clown who speeks well (when he has a teleprompter to guide him). That’s all he does. He can’t keep his issues straight and he won’t stand up for what is right, even when his VP is willing to do so.
Posted by: Mr. Reality | September 23, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Thank you, Ken.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
I’m so glad that Barry can correct Matt in his line of thinking and tell Matt what everyone else really thinks is wrong with politics. I thought we were all allowed to have our own thoughts…even when they don’t line up with Barry’s agenda.
Barry Obama = Chicago Politics = Corruption.
Posted by: TR in Seattle | September 23, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
“I miss a general public that knew their history”
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
@Mary Richey
McCain KNOWS EVEN LESS!!
Posted by: BiffForObama | September 23, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Obama is hope and light–
Do you really want to talk about who has recieved what donations from entities like Freddy and Fanny?
Obama in his short time in the Senate has become the 3rd LARGEST recipiant of donations from Freddie and Fannie in almost the LAST 3 DECADES.
…I can’t take these half truth people…
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
I can’t believe I’m going to say this, but kudos to Matt Lauer. It’s about time one of the media stepped up and challenged Obama. Maybe this will become a trend. The man has no substance. When he was asked on 60 minutes why he would be a good leader, he had no answer. I think he said he had a good disposition, give me a break.
Posted by: Laurel | September 23, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
BO stinks.
We should go back to the days where only land owners get to vote. That would eliminate 90 percent of Democrats. Heck, if made it working land owners that would be 98 percent Democrats.
Posted by: X | September 23, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Kevin Hassett-He advised President Bush in his campaign, and he currently serves as a senior economic adviser to the John McCain 2008 presidential campaign. No conflict of interest here, folks.
Posted by: Keating Five | September 23, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Okay – so now Senator Biden has spoke too soon. Senator Obama is still happy with his pick? We know Sen. Biden was supposed to be the more senior Senator and help Obama where Obama had deficits in his knowledge about foreign affairs and the economy. So what’s up with the Nobama folks now?
Gov. Palin has finally energized women and men are just not happy with her – well, the intelligents men are, but those men on the other side of the fence are just kind of ‘leaning’.
Even my democratic granddaughter has gotten excited, along with my g-grandson who finally told off our mailperson who tried to convince this 10y/o how ‘wonderful’ the newby senator from IL is.
Posted by: GG | September 23, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Obama should have a word with Biden before opening his mouth about something he clearly knows nothing about. What was his point??? He justa danced aroung the question and said NOTHING!!! This is who you want to run your country?? Hillary would’ve been the right choice for president, Obama didn’t chose her as his VP because he knew she would completely overshadowed him just like she did with Bill.
Now a McCain/Biden 08 ticket would’ve been just dandy.
Posted by: Lil | September 23, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Kevin Hassett-He advised President Bush in his campaign, and he currently serves as a senior economic adviser to the John McCain 2008 presidential campaign. No conflict of interest here, folks.
That senate bill 190 sure is a kicker. You know, the one that Obama, Hillary, Dodd, Schumer voted against.
LOL
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
In 2005 when a bill was put on the Senate floor to add regulation to Fannie May and Freddie Mac Obama and Clinton opposed it and McCain supported it. But Obama still wants to come out and say McCain is for deregulation. Not to mention throughout his career Obama has received more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This is one more reason why I cannot vote for Obama.
Posted by: Rob | September 23, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
And as for HOPE…maybe in this day and age that is all some people have.
Hope that someone will treat you like you matter…
Hope that the color of my skin won’t matter…
Hope that my religion will be accepted..
Hope that the next generation will be better off then you are…
Hope that someday you will have more then you have now…
Hope for a better job…
Hope for health care…
And on and on….
Yes I think Obama gives me that hope…why???
Because I see what the Republicans have done so far and if you ran a business and hired them for the last 8 years and they ran your business into the ground, would you hire then for another 4 years?
If you do, then you deserve to lose your business.
Veto power overrides anything that could have passed in the last two years…look to Bush as to why nothing got done…he is a Republican and so is McCain no matter how much he tries to distance himself from them.
I as a normal everyday citizen can never change a mind that is set, all I can do is speak from my heart of the hope I have for this country that I love, it’s freedoms and it’s ability to come together when really needed.
Politics should never separate any of us.
Vote on the issues please, read everything you can and when you see something posted, please check it out online..I read over 20 plus newspapers now, google everything, watch 7 different networks and talk to everyone I see to get other views.
I want to be a well informed voter.
Off my soapbox now and sorry for taking up your time and space.
Whoever wins the election, good luck.
Posted by: Bev | September 23, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
At least Sen. McCain had the guts to explain his stance on AIG and the others; while Obama isn’t ready to discuss his plan(s). America isn’t fooled, at least the more intelligent America isn’t.
I’m reading between the lines of both Obama and McCain…and I’m a staunch democrat. This will be a first swap for me, and several of my neighbors.
Posted by: GG | September 23, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Well stated Kevin. my question is, where are the Enron style house and senate hearings with this CEOs being walked out of congress in handcuffs??? this is 100 times more of an impact than Enron ever was. Why not?? because the majority of them are paid in full Dems that are still sitting in their position of power. this is one of the biggest jokes of modern government and someone needs to drag these people in front of a comissionary hearing. let’s hear what they have to say under oath.
Posted by: rod peters | September 23, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Just the beginning of a way to get Biden off the ticket and get Hillary on.
I predict Biden will continue with even worse gafs. Looks like the messiah will be trying to get a new disciple.
Posted by: Denise Kellie | September 23, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
remember it was George W. who instructed fannie and freddie to change the type of mortgage that they would buy from a minimum 20% down payment to 0% down payment. That was in 2004, when this disaster began. The Democrats had nothing to do with that. But the fact is, neither Repub nor Dem was complaining when house prices were skyrocketing and all their constituents were buying houses. And stop blaming banks for lending people money. Those borrowing are responsible for their actions, like anything else. If they coujdn’t afford it they shouldn’t have borrowed the money. Its no different than anything else.
Posted by: a | September 23, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Hey Bev,
We’ll see how much “hope” you have when that tax bill comes in. You will hope you win the lottery.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
In 1985, three years after the deregulation of the S&Ls, the chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board saw that the situation was already looking shaky, with the potential to become much worse. He instituted a rule to limit the amounts and types of investments S&Ls could carry on their books in an effort to head off disaster. However, many savings and loans — among them Lincoln Savings & Loan Association of Irvine, CA, which was headed by a fellow named Charles Keating — promptly ignored these rules.
Now enters a familiar cast of characters. First to pop up was the universally beloved Fed-chief-to-be, Alan Greenspan. Greenspan argued against the loan board’s new rules, and persuaded Reagan to appoint one of Keating’s pals to the board to blunt the requirements. A quintet of senators, among them John McCain, began having meetings with both the management at Lincoln and the regulators at the loan board. ] Alan Greenspan also helped out with a letter to the regulators, asking that Lincoln be exempt from the new rules. With their help of Greenspan and their pet senators, Lincoln was able to stay in business an additional two years, at the end of which they failed — taking the life savings of 21,000, mostly elderly, investors with them.
How involved was John McCain? McCain and Keating had known each other since 1981 and had become fast friends. Of all the “Keating Five,” it was McCain who moved into the life of the Lincoln S&L chief. The two men vacationed together multiple times, with the whole McCain clan (babysitter included) heading out for Keating’s private Caribbean property on Keating’s private jet. McCain didn’t think to actually report these trips, or pay for them, until the investigators were breathing down his neck. And McCain took his payment in the form of more than just vacations. Keating and other members of Lincoln’s parent company padded McCain’s pockets with $112,000 in campaign contributions.
Posted by: Keating Five | September 23, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Obama in an eight-flag statement from Florida, dressed like an undertaker, delivers a mouth-full of mush — answers the first question on the “bailout”, after an exasperated snort of disdain, with an “I don’t want to dictate a particular way”, then reprises his campaign platform instead of answering the uestion.
Nary a word about Paulson, or about the banking committee on which Obama falsely, during the primaries, claimed to serve.
He is sooo full of it. And his hustler accent comes and goes. Quite creepy, as well as waaay overdressed.
Posted by: Belle Starr | September 23, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Obama, ARE YOU SIMPLE BOY???
Posted by: John | September 23, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Let’s just give “HOPE” a chance. A fresh voice among a bunch of dead fish.
Posted by: Gaylord | September 23, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Obama is such a fraud.
Here are the facts:
1. Obama and Chris Dodd have taken more campaign contributions from Freddie & Fannie than anyone else in the Senate.
2. In 2005, MCCAIN COSPONSORED Senate Bill 190, which would have reigned in Freddie & Fannie, and prevented the financial crisis we are now in.
3.OBAMA and his Dem friends all voted NO against McCain’s reform bill, paving the way for the current financial meltdown.
Americans and their great-great-great grandchildren will be paying through the nose because OBAMA AND HIS DEM CRONIES SOLD US OUT FOR SOME CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS.
Posted by: nationalobserver | September 23, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
For all you Limbaugh Disciples continuing “OPERATION CHAOS” on this board today, I want to let you know that I now understand what Limbaugh meant by “CHAOS”. He clearly meant the Republican philosophy of bringing about chaos in the financial sector by deregulating and fostering a culture of greed and lies. The Republicans had the White House and both houses of Congress during the Enron debacle. Why did they not affect the change required in Corporate America then? The simple answer is that Republicans, Limbaugh, Hannity, and their disciples are not interested in Middle America. They pander to their values, rile them up on an emotional level, and then use them to help their Wall Street buddies. The Republicans could have overturned Roe v Wade between 2000 and 2006 when they ran everything, but they didn’t. Why, you ask? The answer is because the Republicans want to keep that issue alive, so they can use it for electioneering purposes. Limbaugh rails against Socialism, but then gives a full-throated endorsement when Socialism is used the rescure Wall Street. Republicans are full contradictions. They obfuscate the issues and manipulate Middle America. Enough is enough! Don’t let yourself be one of their “useful idiots”. I will not be manipulated any longer! I was a Republican, but now I back Obama. He is a breath of fresh air!
Posted by: Obama is Hope and Light | September 23, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Obama’s famous subtext “Wait hold on a second…” You’re only fooling the uneducated Obama!
McCain/Palin ’08!
Say NO to Socialism!
Posted by: CB | September 23, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Obama’s famous subtext “Wait hold on a second…” You’re only fooling the uneducated Obama!
McCain/Palin ’08!
Say NO to Socialism!
Posted by: CB | September 23, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
If you want to be like Obama, vote “Present” on election day!
Biden is a complete and total idiot BTW.
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Biden talking about Obama, and now Obama talking about Biden…. Come on now how much more OBVIOUS CAN IT BE….. I suspect next month Biden will either say there is irreconcilable differences between himself and Obama, OR Biden will have health issues….. Either way Biden will come off the ticket for Hillary or another Female. This is how they are going to correct Obama’s poor judgement in the beginning for NOT putting Hillary on the ticket to begin with. MARK MY WORDS… biden will get out!!!! It is coming….. THERE I said it!!!
Posted by: Trixie | September 23, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Obama is up to his usual tricks of trying not to speak out on really important issues. He did that for eight years in Illinois and continued when he got his senate seat. His supporters interpret that as him being thoughtful before he speaks. At least John McCain came out and said what he feels should be done and has been getting criticized ever since. I agree with McCain that the head of the SEC should be fired. Even I knew that this financial crisis was a disaster waiting to happen. When people bought homes they couldn’t afford and signed on to making mortgage payments they couldn’t afford, the only result would be foreclosures and the financial institutions holding bad loans.
It’s ok that Obama has chosen to be thoughtful and to wait before he says much — because we had better get used to him doing that if he wins. From day one in the White House, all his decisions will be based on keeping his record clean so that when he runs for a second term, opponents will have less of a chance to criticize him.
Posted by: MatthewF | September 23, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Ok. No-Bama is no is having a Press conference (AKA left wing media to list). He wants to give everyone how forclosed on a house the money to buy it back. He wants to give everyone who is not making there payments on their Sports Sedans Money to pay off their cars. He wants to give everyone money to pay off their credit cards. WHY you ma ask, SO THAT EVERY ONE OWES HIM SOMETHING SO THEY WILL VOTE FOR HIM. Now I know McCain may be saying some of similar things, but I guaranty that the republicans in congress will not let him get away with it. What is the basic premise here? The premise is that the libs hate it that they have no say over Wall Street. They want to get their grubby mits into it so they can create a HUGE oversight department they can use to control the market…. Why would the Fat Libs want this you may ask…?? BECAUSE THE LIBS HATE CAPITALISM!….. They want to control all prices for everything and turn us into Freaking RUSIA!!!!!!!!
Posted by: derrek michigan | September 23, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
“No, hold on a second Matt,”… what happen Obama? Trying to change the subject… just answer the question!
Posted by: Michael | September 23, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Pedro said: “Hey Matt…Didn’t you read your employee manual?? Ever challenge Obama like that again and you’re out the door, looking for work at Fox. This is your last warning!”
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LOL,LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Matt, Way to go! Keep up the good work!
Posted by: nationalobserver | September 23, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Good one, Bobb, real intelligent!
These are the people supporting Obama.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Why does Obama gets to pounce on McCain for taking a position while he refuses to? Sometimes a man’s got to make up his mind. This guy just doesn’t.
Posted by: J Frey | September 23, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Wow Matt..I am impressed..an actual interview that wasn’t infomercial-like…and from NBC to boot.
Eat that Keith Olbermann…That’s how news is done!
Posted by: gdawgsimpson | September 23, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
The question is: before or after the VP debate? When will Biden resign from the ticket so Hillary can ascend to the spot?
Posted by: Sara Martini | September 23, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
And once again, he is an ObamaNation to the United States!!
Posted by: CoolCat | September 23, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
From the Obama Camp:
All this controversy between Obama and Biden is being staged so Biden can make his exit. Obama will then be free to bring in Hillary as his VP pick. Give it about one week and you’ll see this come about. He’s doing it because he’s intimidated by the choice of Sarah Palin for Republican VP and having Hillary on the ticket will improve his chances with white women voters. It’s all a big game folks.
And why should Biden defer to Obama when he’s been a legislator for so many more years than Obama? The answer is…he shouldn’t. The ticket should be reversed but Biden never had the eloquent drawing power that Obama has. And if Obama gets elected he will have the same problem with Congress. Why should Charlie Rangel or any other long-term Representative or Senator bow to Obama? They won’t do it and the country will suffer because of it. Nothing will get done.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Obama supporters are going to cling to that racist theory when he loses. But they won’t just consider that Obama is not qualified to be President. What a shame.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
These better-than-thou know-nothings and do-nothings listed below CAUSED or was an accessory for not saying anything about this mess by pushing high-risk low-rate loans to people with no money so that housing became “more affordable”. Their empty-headed good intentions came with consequences – low income people cannot afford high mortgages no matter what the interest rate. The market will smooth this over and the politicians, bankers, analysts, builders and brokers will suffer – YES. But THEY should hurt, not the taxpayer. WE didn’t pressure the banks to loan the money and LIE about how everything was safe. Therefore WE taxpayers should not suffer. The politicians, corporate leaders, financial analysts and press are all at fault. Anyone else that did not perform their due diligence on this mess is culpable. Remove Them, Fire Them, Fine Them, Jail Them. Whatever it takes.
Posted by: The Emperor's New Clothes | September 23, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
I love Obama. No matter how much he gets in a corner on a question, he does not bring up his color, gender or his former POW status, nor does he hide from the media.
At least he gets tough questions as well.
This is a least CHANGE!
Thanks Barack for sticking to your guns, this interview could have been in “private!”
Posted by: Nat Turner | September 23, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Well “Angelo”..no one likes paying taxes, but you pay it because you live in America.
Like the old joke says..two things for sure “death and taxes” but if you know the loopholes all you have to do is die.
I pay my taxes because it is my duty, if they get higher, then I will pay those too.
I am a proud American living in a country that gave my Italian immigrant grandparents, landing at Ellis Island, a better life…they paid their taxes too.
They taught me this:there is a difference between want and need.
You may want that fancy house and new car, but do you really need that?
You want a big screen tv, but do you need that?
I live within my means and I may not have much, but I am happy.
So, paying taxes are part of that American dream, you can not get something for nothing…everyone has to pay no matter what.
If you think Obama will raise your taxes, don’t be silly to think McCain won’t do that either.
Just because he says he won’t?
Is this your first election?
Posted by: Bev | September 23, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
I’m a Republican. My TV has been on the fritz for a few days so nobody has told me what to think. Please help. Liberals keep asking me questions and I have no idea how I’m supposed to answer.
Posted by: Steve | September 23, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Gosh. I hope Obama doesn’t win! Regarding the morgtage issues, let’s all remember there wouldn’t have been a market had people not been trying to keep up with the Jones’ and get into homes they knew they couldn’t afford but thought they could swing it with 0 down and a 5 year ARM.
Posted by: Elaine | September 23, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
This is getting good!
Posted by: Skullsplitter | September 23, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Well Bev, when the taxes get raised for business owners and they can’t afford to pay their employees, all hope will be gone, with Obama.
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
I’ve been saying this for years. You shouldn’t be allowed to vote whether white, black, man, woman, republican, democrat or whatever, unless you own land or contribute to our economy. You can’t have uneducated people working at minimum wage jobs or not working picking our next president. Maybe a competency test?
“We should go back to the days where only land owners get to vote. That would eliminate 90 percent of Democrats. Heck, if made it working land owners that would be 98 percent Democrats.”
Posted by: ? | September 23, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
McCain will get us further in debt.
Obama will raise taxes.
No one truly is winning here.
Third party, please…
Posted by: Wes | September 23, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
“For all you Limbaugh Disciples…”
Limbaugh still can be on target occasionally, but the man to watch and/or listen to, is Glenn Beck: smart, thoughtful, wise, and entertaining as all heck.
Posted by: nodog | September 23, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
The Dems want to reduce spending, cut taxes for the ENTIRE middle class, give you and your family free health care, help send your kids to college.
Are you a socialist?
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Why is it that you right-wing nutbags refuse to worship at the feet of the Obama-messiah? Isn’t it clear to you yet that only He, in His infinite wisdom, can perfect America? He, like His lesser previous incarnation, will put a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. After that, it is likely that He will turn water into wine, walk on water, heal the sick and raise the dead. It is absolutely certain that He will win in November, unless those nasty racist white folks keep Him out of the White House. After all, no one can legitimately argue with His perfect ideas – all opposition to Him is clearly racially motivated. (Referring to McCain negatively as an “old senile white guy” is neither ageist nor racist, as it is directed against an old white dude. You can say anything about those people. I’ll bet John is wondering where his pudding is now.) All hail Obama and Gaffemeister B!
Obama (the Alpha and the Omega) / Biden ’08
Posted by: Obama is light and hope indeed | September 23, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
yeh, Jose they want to tell you what doctor to choose, what college to send your children to, what to eat when you get home, what you watch on tv. . .
Posted by: Angelo | September 23, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Don’t let that man (NoBama) get in office. This poor country should that happen. Clueless and stupid, but then he is a democrap.
Posted by: Good Grief No | September 23, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Wake Up America,
Republican or Dem, Each of you need to take a clear look at what you are about to do if you want to vote for Obama.While I never agreed on John McCain’s politics, I have full confidence that he will lead America with the utmost integrity and will reach out to both sides of the political spectrum. He is a true patriot and has every American’s best interest at heart.
Nobody in this forum should blame Obama or McCain for the current financial meltdown we are facing. As a former loan officer, I saw first hand of the greed that took place from Top to Bottom, Left and Right. Both sides were taking campaign contributions from Fannie and Freddie. Dems wanted the banks to lower the loan standards for lower class citizens. Banks heavily profited from the subprime lending scheme. Loan officers were paid handsomely for selling them. Who are the worst offenders? Sadly it was us, the greedy homeowners that cashed in their equity. I can’t tell how how demanding these borrowers were when it came to completing their loan applications. Pushing for higher appraisals and even lying about the income they could not document. For several years, we went on lavish vacations, furnished our homes, took out high risk loans to have the lowest possible payment. We would drive ourselves in debt, and bail ourselves out by refinancing. Many of us did this a few times while the equity was still going up! And you assumed that your equity would still appreciate. Do not remotely think that we did not bat an eyelash to sign those loan documents and spend all of that equity that we gained. We destroyed our own housing market. Our greed got the best of everyone. Yet, some of you who had no problem spending that money…are crying the loudest about how tough times are right now.
So stop pointing fingers to the political party and take responsibility for your actions as Americans. I am severely upside down in my home and the Government and tax payers do no owe me a single CENT.
Americans should be careful to vote for a man that will not salute the flag, wear a flag pin, and listened to Anti-american racist Jeremiah Wright. Read Obama’s books for yourself. His own writings has convinced me of how close they actually were. He agreed with his teachings. I would never paint someone to be un-American or unpatriotic, whether they are a lib or conservative. I sincerely believe that Obama is. It scares me that we are so close to electing him.
Vote your conscience on election day.
Posted by: Vinnyusmc | September 23, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Y’know I too watched BO and I see a Man who can’t make a decision to save anyone’s life. All option’s open, all moves availible so He can allways be right. Someone should tell BO that being President is beyond posturing of the Senate and You have to actually make decisions. That’s why it will always be ‘above His pay grade’.
Posted by: ripster24007 | September 23, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
The law that created this banking mess was signed in to law by Bill Clinton in 1999 to eliminate redlining. plenty of blame for both party’s on this one. However Mccain did try to pass a law 2 years ago to fix fannie may and freddie mac Obama was against it. Mr. raines his economics advisor ran one one of them (can’t remeber which) made $90 million and Obama received over $100,000 in campaign contributions. Some change, same old boys network.
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
GOP = trillion dollar giveaway to domestic and FOREIGN banks. And no reputable economist even THINKS it will stop the slide.
Thanks Bush, thanks McCain, for a total of 30 years of your “free market.”
Oh, but that’s right, it’s so funny to preach “Nobama,” “Nobama,” “Nobama.”
Yeah, that is so funny. Look around you?! Rome is burning under the GOP’s watch!!! McCain doesn’t even KNOW what economics means, BY HIS OWN ADMISSION!!!
His response: “Well, shucks, I got Greenspan’s book!”
Wow. That is the man you want at the wheel. Not the guy who has already committed to CUTTING TAXES ON ANYONE MAKING LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS!!!!
And, that means raising taxes on all of the wealth American Democrats … WHO ARE STILL BACKING OBAMA!!!
Oh, but wait, Sarah Palin was head of the ALASKA NATIONAL GUARD FOR LESS THAN TWO YEARS, SURELY THAT COUNTS AS SOMETHING, RIGHT?!?!?
[McCain] also cited her nearly two years as commander of Alaska’s National Guard. “I believe she is absolutely, totally qualified to address every challenge as the next vice president of the United States,” McCain said. (Grand Rapids, Michigan, September 17, 2008)
Less than 2 years as commander of Alaska’s National Guard and John McCain believes Sarah Palin is “absolutely, totally qualified” to address “EVERY CHALLENGE” that Vice-President Richard B Cheney faces today, and which she would need to face tomorrow?
That just shows how the GOP is totally and completely out of its gourd. And yet, the partisan hate-mongers sit there, and that is what is most important to you all. Not a Democrat willing to commit to cutting taxes and spending; not a Democrat willing to push for health care and affordable college for you and your families.
No, that is not important. And it shows how either the modern GOP is utterly racist, or completely unintelligent.
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
daily kos is not a reliable source of information. any one considering it as us such must be delusional.
Posted by: jim | September 23, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Partisanship is for sheep. Wake up and realize they’re all screwing you, that’s why they smile all the time. They’re all members of the same groups. They all support NAFTA, SPP, etc. They’re all rich professionals.
Do you really think any one of them would risk their own lifestyle to help the people?
Posted by: anomalous | September 23, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
I Demand an investigation!!!! Why isn’t Congress investigating to get to the bottom of who is responsible for this financial quagmire. They investigate everything else, why not this!?!? Oh, yeah, we democrats are up to our nads in Freddy MAC corruption, and stood in the way of George Bush’s proposed reform of the institution therefore no investigation.
Posted by: rhetorical liberal | September 23, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
GOP = trillion dollar giveaway to domestic and FOREIGN banks. And no reputable economist even THINKS it will stop the slide….
I reiterate…
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
NO, actually by reading your posts, I thought you were a genius. For your information, I am not a Democrat, and did not vote for Kerry. You seem to make a lot of assumptions.
Posted by: Keating Five | September 23, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Obama talks dirt about lobbists BUT somehow he ended up getting all this money from Lawyers and Law Firms 03-08.
Lawyers/Law Firms $27,269,158
Posted by: Marlene | September 23, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Since Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are at the heart of this financial mess, and they were heavily regulated, and attempts to oversee them. reigne them in as they have over stepped their bounds, and any attempt to inject some regulultory oversight since 97 have been thwarted by their biggest benefactors (Obama, Frank, Dodd, and Kerry) is what drives most THINKING, INRTELLIGENT COGNIZANT people. Mind numb Democrats who beliebve anything from an empty suit agree with you, Barry
Posted by: Trippy | September 23, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
I reiterate…
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Justine19675 still waiting on how Obama is more/equally qualified….got something for us? What was the last thing he was head of?
Posted by: Politico | September 23, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
No, Jose, I’m an American, born-and-bred, and a member of the GOP. And I’m sick and tired of big corporations getting all the breaks, getting all the benefits. I pay my taxes, I love my family, and for once, I want to see my government giving me something back. Hell, the UK economy is 1/13 THE SIZE OF THE US AND EVERYONE HAS BASIC HEALTH CARE … FREE OF CHARGE!!! I should know, I lived there.
So, am I a socialist? No, I’m not. That is the GOP today, bailing out and nationalizing the largest corporations in the US and giving away our wealth to bankers.
Word of advice: perhaps you better climb out of your basement and turn on the news, because the Democratic Party today is acting a helluva lot more like the ideals of the GOP than McCain, Palin, and Bush have done recently.
In sum:
GOP = socialist giveaway to Wall Street and overseas banks
DEM = giving back to the people of the US
And if you don’t see that, then you need to get your head examined.
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Obama saying “Joe should have waited” is so typical of Obama. He never goes first because he waits to see who has the best answer, and then he copies it. Either that, or he waits to find out what people want to hear, and then he says that. He is NO leader.
NOway, NOhow, NObama!!
Posted by: Carol | September 23, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
This and a few other recent events, (see below) are setting the stage for Hillary to replace Joe.
It will happen sometime around the first VP debate with VP Palin.
Bill says, “she never wanted to run as VP”, Soon she will play the hero, accepting the posisiton of the ticket for the good of the Country.
Joe has health problems, “It’s OK Joe we understand”
Hmmm, tsk tsk, Obama and Biden are having a spat.
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Delbert,
I’ll give you a better reason not to vote for Obama. He’s a marxist!
Who cares what color his skin is. His policies are dangerous and will complete the disintigration of the American Economy.
And the rest of you don’t tell me that it’s eight years of deregulation. You know that’s not the truth. The truth is that it’s a result of the overspending of the congress. These people are WASTING the money of the taxpayers. Tax and Spend hurts everybody, rich or poor. The rich may survive it but the poor will not. If you are really compasionate, think about the ramifications of a tax and spend congress and a marxist president on the poor. Do you really want to live in Russia? Or China? Really?
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Mike Nowicki said:
All the Dems are looking for is a handout and all of the Dem leaders want to have a base to give thing to, hence all the government programs.
Hate FOX news all you want, it is not going anywhere.
Sir, minorities are not the only ones who defaulted on those “jack up” and shady subprime liar loans……
White people fall into bankruptcy, mortgage default, credit problems too….do you and Neil Cavuto of Fix News (sic) know that?
Posted by: shalom | September 23, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Politico, actually, I’m not here to defend Obama.
But if my choice is between taking a chance on Obama (and in 4 years time, holding him to his promises) or letting McCain sell us down the river for another 4 years (on top of the almost 30 during which all he could do was undermine the economy and suck-off Keating – and get caught for it) …
Well, I’ll take my chance on something new. Only a dumb animal keeps pressing the electrode hoping a peanut will eventually come out, Pavlov. Eventually, there comes a need to try something new.
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
No, Jose, I’m an American, born-and-bred, and a member of the GOP. And I’m sick and tired of big corporations getting all the breaks, getting all the benefits. I pay my taxes, I love my family, and for once, I want to see my government giving me something back. Hell, the UK economy is 1/13 THE SIZE OF THE US AND EVERYONE HAS BASIC HEALTH CARE … FREE OF CHARGE!!! I should know, I lived there…
Nice rhetoric. Please do expand on what you mean by “big corporations getting all the breaks, getting all the benefits”. Do big corporations not employee thousands, hunreds of thousands americans? Do big corporations not have massive operational costs? Do big corporations not spend millions of dollars on R/D? So let me get this straight, you begrudge large corporations cause they make money for themselves and their shareholders? What do you think will happen when large corporations will have to pay higher taxes? Do you think they will stay in America and continue employeeing Americans? Unions are bad enought, higher taxes will be the nail in the coffin. I’m sorry but you sound like a socialist.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Bailouts = Bad
Regulation = Bad
Accountability = Good
Let individuals and entities suffer from their bad choices and profit from their good ones. That’s capitalism. It works. It’s beautiful.
Unfortunately, neither candidate and neither party seems to appreciate this, and I am left voting for the lesser evil. I am an unapologetic Bush voter, but this bailout business just makes me sick.
Posted by: Mr. Tweedy | September 23, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Hey Ralph. You are telling lies. Obama never said that quote, so how about you actually man up and have integrity. Surely you aspire to be better than McCain, another chronic liar.
Take your right-wing hate machine and lies elsewhere.
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Bottom line is when George Will endorses the Democrat, the choice must be pretty clear.
Posted by: Paul | September 23, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Change, Hope, Change, Hope. Don’t focus on the haters. Just project all of your hopes and desires onto Obama. He then becomes your own personal Barack Obama, a guide for your daily mantras. Change, Hope, Change, Hope…
Posted by: Change and Hope | September 23, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Justine it looks an awful lot like you are backing Obama, but you are not like you say. I apologize. You make a good point. However, you can’t fault Palin as having less experience than Obama, when she is technically more qualified than anyone else in the race. If you want hit me up on the side and we can discuss more I have some good things on why each one is better than the other.
Posted by: Politico | September 23, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
GO Obama! GO Obama! GO GO GO GO AWAY! Go AWAY and never come back any other day!!
Posted by: Tipper | September 23, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
“Change, Hope, Change, Hope…”
I’m guessing you prefer “bomb, bomb, bomb…”
Posted by: Paul | September 23, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
I reiterate…
BTW I am waiting for a response.
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
“Word of advice: perhaps you better climb out of your basement and turn on the news, because the Democratic Party today is acting a helluva lot more like the ideals of the GOP than McCain, Palin, and Bush have done recently.”
*Rolls Eyes*
Seriously Justine. You really expect anyone to believe you’re a conservative with comments like that. The Dems are run by marxists. The republicans are walking a very fine line between socailism and capitalism, but the Dems most certainly not representative of conservative ideals or those of the Republican party.
Why can’t you people just be honest about who you are, and present your ideas for people to consider, instead of trying to force them in under cover or night or under another name. It speaks vlumes about these positions when you have to find a new name for them to get people to consider them.
Don’t come in here pretending to be a conservative and making socialist statements and then expect anyone to believe anything you have to say. Be honest…if you really believe the things you say, you have no reason to be ashamed of calling youself a Dem or a Lib or a Sociallist. You shouldn’t cloak yourself in something you aren’t
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Why does Will endorse Obama? Because time fixes a lack of experience, but it won’t fix McCain’s temperament.
Will arrived at this conclusion during last week’s McCain flailing at the economic news; specifically the call to fire an independent watchdog.
If temperament is his driving issue, you have to wonder why George Will didn’t reach the same conclusion much earlier. McCain is know as Senator Hothead for a reason.
Posted by: Paul | September 23, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Great interview.
Posted by: laura | September 23, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
My dear Justine,
Mr. Barry did indeed say he would “talk” with the leaders of Iran, North Korea, and Venezuela. Birds of (socialist) feather do tend to flock together….don’t they? If Barry gets elected he’ll just call it the Barry Doctrine or something frivolous like that. Rich white people will be enslaved and forced to work in factories because of Barry’s racist Reverend Wright ideology. Obama is not fooling anyone here. And that African-American columnist from the Philly newspaper has already called for a race war regardless of who wins so I guess the eventual winner will be irrelevant anyway…once the next civil war breaks out.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Bill says, “Hillary never wanted to run as VP”, Now she will be able to say for the good of the party and the country I will do what’s best for others.
Joe’s health is a concern, “That’s OK Joe we understand, your health comes first”
Hmmm Tsk Tsk, Biden and Obama are having a spat? Why what could this mean?!
The stage is being set for Hillary to Step in when Joe, reluctantly steps down, look for it to happen around the time of the first VP debate.
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
I reiterate…
BTW I am waiting for a response.
COME ON DEMS. THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Jose: “I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS.”
Really, Jose, that’s such a false argument. All of the candidates meet the constitutional requirements, and the voters will decide who is qualified. Beyond that, there’s no check in the box – no number of years in any particular office.
Posted by: Paul | September 23, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Lets see now. Everything was going along smoothly in the economic world until a couple years ago. Then for some reason the voters decided to elect a bunch of democrats to congress.
Ever since the economy has been going into a tailspin to where we are today. I wonder if the readers and writers to this site have enough faculties to undestand the cause and effect. Think.
It is really quite simple to understand. You elect democrats to power. Shortly thereafter the economy starts declining. Do you understand Now.
Now the democrats want you to elect a super liberal left leaning more than any other senator as president, worse than most all senators, along with maintaining a democrat majority in congress. What part of cause and effect don’t you understand?
John Mccain may not be absolutely the best candidate for president, but he is far away better than what else is available to the voters this election.
When McCain gets elected, watch the democrats start their campaign of blathering, blithering, belching, and otherwise speaking from the wrong end, blasting Mccain for every bird dropping that lands on them up to changng the weather patterns.
See, I can sound like a democrat too! It doesn’t take very much intellegence to think and act like one of them :)
Posted by: Russ | September 23, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Thank you, nodog. Glenn Beck was amazing last week on the Economy debacle. This week he’s back to Energy. T. Boone Pickens pointed out last night that the $700 billion in outflow for energy costs kind of coincidentally equals the $700 billion we know owe ourselves for the latest bailouts. That reality seemed to hit him while he was sitting there talking through solutions to our Energy problem – Hey! If we solve Energy, we can also pay back our Economy debts!
But the most important thing Pickens talked about was THE GRID!!! He made us realize that the energy grid we’re using today is the original grid with parts actually installed by Edison himself as far back at the turn of the LAST CENTURY – as in 1900!
Pickens didn’t go on to say that THE NEW GRID’s biggest enemies are the ENVIRONMENTALISTS who will fight it tooth and nail. Why? Hopefully, Glen will cover that topic tonight.
Glen also had an important piece last night about the MEXICAN MAFIA. All of American should have been listening in to the conversation with Renee.
Glen doesn’t talk politics. He talks problem and solution. His show is a public service to the nation. His guests are the experts. Who cares about Dem vs. Rep. Just vote for the guy who can solve the problem!!!!! Or who find the people who can solve the problem, damn it!!!
Posted by: Mary F | September 23, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Kelly, look around you! The GOP has turned the US into the world’s WELFARE LINE!! And you are WORRIED about America looking spineless?!?!
The GOP just nationalized a handful of the largest companies/organizations, and you are worried about “looking” spineless?!?
For God’s sakes … and this is supposed to be the party of Lincoln?
Oh, and I did love this comment … “The republicans are walking a very fine line between socailism and capitalism … ”
By orchestrating a ONE TRILLION DOLLAR GIVEAWAY TO CORPORATIONS AND BANKERS … and that is so much better than a government that wants to give all middle class Americans a tax break, send all American kids to college, and give all Americans of all ages health-care.
Way to go GOP, way to go. Pour more slops in the banker’s trough, because that is really putting America’s interests first.
Oh, but wait, I guess giving all middle-class Americans a tax break, and free health care and education for America’s kids … that makes us a spineless country.
Last time I checked, that was called “taking care of your responsibilities.” But again, it seems the GOP is more interested in hatred and lies, and less about being accountable to the voters.
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Biden’s not stupid. He knows Obama won’t and can’t win so he’s not jeopardizing his standing in the Senate for the one term junior empty suit! Note to all dems, there isn’t any long line of dem politicos forming behind Barack Hussein Obama! You’re looking at defeat in the eye and the landlside defeat will stun even the most ardent Obamaphiles!
Posted by: WallyG | September 23, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Jose: “I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS.”
Really, Jose, that’s such a false argument. All of the candidates meet the constitutional requirements, and the voters will decide who is qualified. Beyond that, there’s no check in the box – no number of years in any particular office.
HA! Still nothing! NO FACTS! Nothing but circular logic. Please, please Barry must somehow be qualified to be president (albeit his resume is pretty thin). Still waiting.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
If healthcare is the general consensus for a vote here. I will tell you all that Socialized medicine is a pain in the royal ###. I am military, and our healthcare system is the closest thing to Socialized medicine we have, and it is horrendous.
You have to make appointments Months and Months out to have your teeth, eye’s, or whatever checked up and then as long to have the problem fixed.
My wife is currently pregnant and try to give birth in a Socialized environment. Especially when the Doctor’s who are making a huge profit currently decide to not be doctor’s any more and the abundance and availability of Dr.’s start to drop. You then have to wait even longer for an appointment and to have your issue’s fixed. Ask the Brit’s about it they will be sure to tell how wonderful it is to have your Government pay for your health care.
Posted by: Politico | September 23, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
I am not very smart but one thing is for sure. Two things are for sure. If I had someone working for me who aonly had a 17 percent approval rating they sure wouldn’t be working for me very long especially when their benifits are better than mine. And I dog gone sure am smart enough to know that if they are that smart… I don’t need them trying to bail me outta anything.
Heaven help us.
WAKE UP YOU SUPPOSED EDUCATED PEOPLE. VOTE FOR YOR COUNTRY NOT YOUR PARTY.
AMERICA WILL ONLY STAND WHEN WE VOTE FOR HER. NOT MONEY OR POLITICS!
Posted by: Wayne | September 23, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
If healthcare is the general consensus for a vote here. I will tell you all that Socialized medicine is a pain in the royal A$$. I am military, and our healthcare system is the closest thing to Socialized medicine we have, and it is horrendous.
You have to make appointments Months and Months out to have your teeth, eye’s, or whatever checked up and then as long to have the problem fixed.
My wife is currently pregnant and try to give birth in a Socialized environment. Especially when the Doctor’s who are making a huge profit currently decide to not be doctor’s any more and the abundance and availability of Dr.’s start to drop. You then have to wait even longer for an appointment and to have your issue’s fixed. Ask the Brit’s about it they will be sure to tell how wonderful it is to have your Government pay for your health care.
Posted by: Politico | September 23, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
For all of you hopeless dreamers that think Obama is the answer to our problems, let me ask you a question…would you go to the store and buy a television, washer, dryer, car, or any other big ticket item without knowing something about it? of course not. now apply that to Obama. You know virtually nothing about this guy and don’t claim that you do unless you can provide proof. Comunity organizor right? what did he accomplish? ACORN, Ayers, these secret foundations that seem to have had there records erased from history, what did he do for them? this is laughable that he is your nominee and i can understand you defending him but my HOPE lies in that you come to your senses when casting your vote.
Posted by: rod peters | September 23, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
I’m beginning to feel a little sympathy for Biden. Today, he’s been taking all the heat for the Obama/Biden ticket’s duplicity (coal) and Obmama’s indecisiveness (above). When a problem arises, leaders offer solutions. Leaders do not point their fingers around the room, trying to lay blame. Leaders know they should never sit back in silence, waiting for the right decision to be made, and then jump on the bandwagon. Obama should never have critisized Biden for trying to seize the reins and be a leader.
Posted by: Tora | September 23, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
700 Billion dollars. 700 Billion Dollars.
I can swallow the fact people voted George Bush the first time though was a bad partisan decision. To have him relected was a blind, ignorent and inexcusable decision that will have lasting negative effects for us over the next 20 years or better. After all this, to vote for someone who has anything remotely connected to that ideology or subscribes to Bushes policy by voting 90% with him is nothing short of treason.
Posted by: sue | September 23, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Justine? Yeah! Going from a Moderate and sometimes Conservative President to an out right Liberal/Socialist America Hater will somehow in your wildest dreams be better,.The only thing that will be better is the media wont have anyone to kick around anymore.
Posted by: Kelly | September 23, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Bill says, “Hillary never wanted to run as VP”,
Now she will be able to say for the good of the party and the country I will do what’s best for others.
Two issues upon which they are willing to bicker in public about, “Hmmm Tsk Tsk, Biden and Obama are having a spat – why what could this mean?!”
Joe’s health is a concern, “That’s OK Joe we understand, your health comes first”
The stage is being set for Hillary to Step in when Joe reluctantly steps down.
Look for it to happen around the time of the first VP debate.
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I reiterate…
BTW I am waiting for a response.
COME ON DEMS. THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!
Not a single substantive answer, other than to attack me and my “audacity” in asking about Obama’s credentials. It is so quiet here that I can hear the crickets chirp.
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Bill says, “Hillary never wanted to run as VP”,
Now she will be able to say for the good of the party and the country I will do what’s best for others.
Joe’s health is a concern, “That’s OK Joe we understand, your health comes first”
Two issues upon which they are willing to bicker about in public, “Hmmm Tsk Tsk, Biden and Obama are having a spat – why what could this mean?!”
The stage is being set for Hillary to Step in when Joe reluctantly steps down.
Look for it to happen around the time of the first VP debate.
Posted by: Jim | September 23, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Obama flip-flops like a fish out of water, knowing the imminence his own political death. If he had his way Iraq would certainly have already failed, Venezuela would have already annexed Columbia and split it with Ecuador, abortions in America would be paid for by a socialize healthcare system (that depended on advertising dollars from gay lobbyists just to survive), our banks, mortgage companies, toll roads, docks, peers, national parks, would all be systematically sold to foreign investments in order to pay for all the so-called college education that he would want to make sure every kid gets (which in turn would mean that we would have no one to work in our factories in twenty years, so all of our labor sector would be farmed out too) and the idealized American service economy would become the model of complacency, a real bored nation of political thinkers with no time for philosophy who could then conceive of ways to try and enslave other countries and rule the world using so-called class welfare.
Too bad he can’t even control his own campaign. How in the heck is he ever gonna manage a nation? His own Vice President disgusts him, who, at the same time derides Obama for his lack of ethics in a smear campaign attacking disabled people, be it Down Syndrome, be it Purple Heart War wound which prevent a man from normally using a keyboard. His campaign even presents ‘being a woman’ as some kind of handicap, as though that means she doesn’t have time for a Vice Presidency, or a Presidency for that matter. Why didn’t he choose Hillary Clinton as VP if he already hates his own VP so much? What a disgusting person!
Posted by: Fr. Mike | September 23, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
All you ol libs that are touting Britians health care should look at their teeth!
You might want to wait on socialized medicine until you get the bill on Dodds socilaized stock market bailout!
Posted by: crayon51 | September 23, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
The $700 Billion bailout is necessary (if it’s necessary) because Pelosi, Dodd, Obama and other Democrats blocked McCain’s reform and oversight bill after the fraudulent bookkeeping of Obama’s advisor Raines first came to light in 2005. Even now, Barney Frank is trying to remove reform provisions from the current bailout bill.
If you choose to make loans to people who aren’t creditworthy, those loans are by definition bad loans the moment the ink is dry. If you want to do that with your own money, that’s fine, but Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae should never have been allowed to.
How can Obama credibly stand for reform when he’s one of the top three architects of the current disaster?
Posted by: Jonathan | September 23, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Obama’s going to throw Biden under the bus. Just another casualty of his self interested political ambition. Joe Biden is going to take a hit from this Junior Senator who really has nothing to offer the country.
I think Biden should tell Obama where to get off. That man was serving this country when Obamas asperations was just a gleam in his “community organizing” eye, and he’s going to roll Biden for his own incompetence.
If we had any questions as to who Obama is, I think we can safely say they’ve been answered.
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
crayon51, open your eyes: the socialized bailout to Wall Street is Bush’s baby. That’s why is it so insane.
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
“I’ve been campaigning in all 57 states…” bwaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaa
Posted by: Obama | September 23, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
It’s time Obama is be put on notice. We KNOW what you’re up to. You picked Biden, now you stick with him. You switch to Hillary, and it will be obvious to all that it was planned from the start. You, Obama, are on notice. WE ALL KNOW! You can’t pull it off now!!!!
Posted by: Ann | September 23, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Hillary is not getting in this race no matter what because McCain/Palin will lay a loss on her,and thats not good because she will run un-opposed 4 years from now,and because of Florida/Michigan she has a good argument she should have been the Nominee instead of the Black Guy Loser.
Lets face it! if I got to here I’m raciest for being Conservative,I’M ONLY GOING TO REFER TO HIM AS THE BLACK GUY FROM NOW ON!
Posted by: Kelly | September 23, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
IT’S CALLED SOCIALISM
If Obama gets elected we will all have a number tattooed on our wrist and be forced to present documentation at every checkpoint. We won’t have to worry about paying tolls or taxes anymore. We’ll just need to make sure the donkey cart is in good working order so we can all go fetch our daily cup of rice and water while he and his rich lobbyist/corporate/Fannie Mae friends are eating lobster and caviar everyday while living in super-sized McMansions.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
WHAT MAKES SENATOR OBAMA QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT? READ ON:
One of the best qualifiers to be president is charisma…….senator Obama has that, as did John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. Being smart, intelligent, wise and sensible are also required as far as I’m concerned…
Anyone who makes it to the level of United States senator or governor should qualify based on experience alone. Also, charisma as aforementioned; and being a U.S. citizen…
Keep something in mind America: Only two African Americans have reached the level of United States governor since Reconstruction. Wider of Virginia and Patrick of Mass.
Only three African Americans have reached the level of United States senator since Reconstruction….Brooks of Mass., Braun of Illinois, and Obama of Illinois…..Zero!!! from the South!!! since Reconstruction…
And folks got the nerve to question senator Obama’s experience to be president…..
Those questions are rooted in ignorance and racism…
Posted by: shalom | September 23, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD….Please Please someone, anyone, please give one (1) fact (not rhetoric). Merriam-Webster defines “Fact” as “a piece of information presented as having objective reality”
I reiterate…
BTW I am waiting for a response.
COME ON DEMS. THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
He said Biden should have waited, so what’s the big deal! The McLies campaign is sickening and for once, the media should stop covering anything they do or say, included mooseburger eater. This article is big news? Go to Alaska to investigate all the Republican cover up and the sequestering of Pitbull with Lipstick, it’s nonsense! Since when the press CANNOT INTERVIEW A CANDIDATE? It is ridiculous! By the way, there are still simple minds running around thinking Obama is not Christian, how dumb!
Posted by: carmen | September 23, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Ummmm, Jonathan, it was McCain and Phil Gramm who pushed the rule breaking up investment banks and commercial banks, and letter the former operate outside Federal Reserve oversight.
That law is what allowed Lehman Brothers, Goldman, Merrill, and all the independent investment banks to go out there and market these subprime mortgages. So, you can sit there and think what you want, and hate Obama all you want. McCain did that in 1999, go look it up …
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Wow… Barry and the DNC have decided to drop Biden for Hillary, But first Joe needs to play along and say dumb things… I got this one figured out.
Posted by: GoUSA247 | September 23, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Trish, you can worry all you want about Vladimir Putin. But maybe when you have a moment, take a look in the mirror and wonder why it is that means more to you than having health care, having a college education for your kids, reducing taxes on the middle class, stopping GOP-led bailouts of Wall Street. I encourage you to think about that.
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
I once was for Bush but instead of being conservative he proved himself a liberal. But a real left wing liberal lies better like Obama. Now between him and Barney Frank it’s a toss up as to who is the better lier. Vote for honesty and change, vote for Sarah Palin. Say no to bailing out the stuffed shirt putz’s on Wall Street and vote out the democrat party.
Posted by: Ww Terry | September 23, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
“Ummmm, Jonathan, it was McCain and Phil Gramm who pushed the rule breaking up investment banks and commercial banks, and letter the former operate outside Federal Reserve oversight.”
So you’re telling me that Dems waited ten years unitl the brink of collapse to speak up about this. That’s pathetic. You have to reach back nearly a decade to blame a republican? C’mon. You know just like everybody else that the Dems have blood on their hands on this one. Not all republicans are innocent, but this has all the ear marks (pardon the pun) of the Tax and Spenders.
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Hey Justine:
You make a good point, but I am personally more than happy to let any privately-owned financial institution (including AIG) succeed or fail without government assistance. My understanding of the current financial crisis is that government assistance is necessary to prevent a marketplace meltdown in an atmosphere of junk-quality subprime loans guaranteed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
My understanding is that Glass-Steagal (sp?) liberalization is not responsible for the crisis, but I welcome evidence to the contrary.
Posted by: Jonthan | September 23, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Ummm…Sue…by lasting effects for the next 20 years do you mean the safety from terrorists that Bush secured and never gets credit for? How about the lasting effects of the current wall street crisis that we have as a result of the Dem’s blockage of reform that Bush and McCain were separately pushing for a few years ago. Talk about lasting effects!
Posted by: Grant | September 23, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Politico, well I have a question for you, since socialized medicine is so bad. How about you opt out of it, and go buy your own private insurance that would be better?
Surely you and your wife can opt out of the poor medicine the military offers, and go get your own.
I’ll tell you why you don’t: because when it comes to health care, something is better than nothing. And if you don’t think so, then I’ll simply say you are very, very lucky to be in the military and to have free health coverage. When I my dad lost his job and had to go on COBRA and pay $1000 month to keep me, mom, and my brother covered, it d*mn near bankrupted us.
If you think that is preferrable to the inconvenience of having to wait a month or two for a specialist, well, again, you are very, very lucky.
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
“it works in the real world and should apply to your government.”
Do you mean to imply that we should expect people to work their way up into positions of responsibility by achieving quantifiable/objective milestones that support the notion that they have obtained experience to function in a management capacity?
Hmmm…. I continue my lonely cry in the wilderness.
I reiterate…
BTW I am waiting for a response.
COME ON DEMS. THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Bailing out AIG and the other bandit banks is socialization of banking, no matter what Ralph or the other Republicans think. Take responsibility for the mess you’ve gotten us in.
I think they should be left hanging, so we can use that same tax payer money to buy back those bonds the Chinese bought when we needed money to fund the Iraq incursion (which you guys don’t even realize is not legally a war!!).
Even if you want to keep being abused by the system, that’s no reason to drag the rest of us down with you.
I will take the promise of change from Obama long before I would go on the same dusty no win road you guys have paved for us.
Posted by: karvictho | September 23, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Sue…you must be very young, because you know very little about economic issues. Things started going down the toilet 2 years ago when the Dem’s took control all because people felt we couldn’t win in Iraq, so they wanted Change. Well they got it, a do nothing congress who only wanted to have hearings to blast Bush. Read yesterdays Bloomberg Report on who’s fault it is that we are in the financial crisis today. If your not aware, Bloomberg is one of the most respected financial news organizations around, they produce the “After the Bell” report each evening on ABC. Read how the Dem’s dropped the ball when the administration wanted to do something three years ago to keep the very thing that is happening now from happening, and they rejected it. Before you spout a bunch of crap that you know nothing about, try educating yourself a little. All you liberals do is complain and pass blame, and when a good idea does come around if it’s not yours, you reject it. You were wrong three years ago, two years ago and today. Wise up, get educated and learn a little about the world you live in instead of just spouting the same old blame game. If your leaders are so great why haven’t they come up with solutions, oh I forgot, Harry Reid said they needed to go home, because they really didn’t know what to do. You got a great leader in that man. Maybe Obama will walk on water and save the world, fat chance of that.
Posted by: Bill | September 23, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Obama and Biden are setting up reasons for Obama’s October surprise to throw Joe under the train for incompetence.
Obama had a sit down in New York with Bill Clinton in Harlem to talk about Hillary becoming his vice president. Obama needs to get Bill’s word he will take the UN job if he drops Joe and picks Hillary to win the White House.
Perhaps this means we will have a ‘threefer’ in the White House. If Obama wins with Hillary, she and Bill will also be presidents. Plus Bill can run the State Department from his job at the UN while he is campaigning for the UN TOP JOB as Secretary General to run the world.
Posted by: FromTheTop | September 23, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Shalom:
Hiram Revels of Mississippi became the first African American senator in 1870. Yes, that was before Reconstruction, but after Reconstruction the Democrats controlled the South.
Posted by: Lee Ruth | September 23, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Once again, Obama can’t answer anything truthfully even when confronted with facts. No wonder we clingers of guns and religion in our small towns don’t trust the double talk of Obama.
Posted by: Alex | September 23, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Silly Justine, you misread my post. I’m not worried about Putin. As I said, he an I will be implementing your conservative principles enumerated in this discussion when we reclaim the old soviet union.
As for your free health care and education. No thanks. I’ll pay for them myself. Why? Because that means I get a say in the product I’m purchasing. I think the public school system has already demonstrated for us what a dismal failure socialist systems can be. European healthcare has already demonstrated what a dismal failure socialized medicine can be. I’ll keep my world class, constantly improving, health care that I have now. Which, by the way I can get the moment I need it…not 6 months from now. Thanks though.
My kids don’t need your help going to school. Why? Because my husband and I will make responsible financial decisions which will allow us to fund their education ourselves. We will teach our kids not to take other people’s money in the form of government handouts. We will teach them that government assistance makes you a slave. We aren’t slaves. We are free, independant, and self reliant individuals. We hold the power over government. If by chance we do ever need help, we’ll go to our church, to our family, to our community, but not the government. We will never be dependent on the government for our basic needs.
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Last I checked America was not about Free Health Care or Free College. You have the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. If you can afford healthcare go to one of the free clinics. If you can’t afford school get a job, or a loan, or a scholarship just like everyone else has done. Giving government control of everything is NOT American. That goes for the Bail out too.
Posted by: Politico | September 23, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Loving the trolls today. I say kudos to Obama. He is honest about a mistake being made by his own teammate and does not blindly support everything that Biden says or does simply because he picked him as running mate. Biden should have waited to comment until he had all the facts as should have McCain, one of the best qualities that Obama has is that he does not jump the gun, some criticize this as they are more comfortable with the cowboy we have in the white house at the moment but look at history people the greatest world leaders have also been our greatest thinkers. FDR, Kennedy, Ghandi, Mandela, Winston Churchill, Lincoln. The President does not pick a VP to be his puppet and I like that Obama has the character to be honest with us. Now for all of you Obama bashers who question his qualifications I suggest you do what all of us that decided to support him have done, read his bio and his blueprint for this country on his website. Go online and search for his legislative record in Illinois. Its all there for you to read and learn for yourself….its not kool aid folks its intelligence. Instead of allowing yourself to be misled by bloggers who can write anything, check out congressional libraries and learn for yourself. Barack Obama is a scholar of the constitution so please stop with the scare tactics and subtle comparisons to a nazi era. Educate yourselves before spreading the hatred. And FYI – its what Jesus would do!!!
Posted by: RK | September 23, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
We should let all the financial markets crash because all the rich and hypocritical democrats will then be forced to actually work a 9-5 gig like the rest of us do. Oh yeah, then we institute a flat-tax (because Barry wants us all to play fair) then watch as all the free government goodies and handouts dry up.
Will this plan work? Of course not…but neither will Obama’s non-plan work. He doesn’t have a plan. He stays up at night watching CNN to see what McCain said then just comes out the next morning and says the opposite. Sorry folks, but we need a leader with backbone right now. Not a wishy-washy “can’t make up his mind to save his life” kind of President. If China attacks Taiwan he will have exactly four minutes to decide on standing up to China and responding militarily (as dictated by pre-existing treaty). He couldn’t make up his mind in FOUR DAYS.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
People, People, stop the bickering. My question below is simple yet no one (Dems) can answer it with one (1) fact. BTW Merriam- Webster defines “Fact” as “a piece of information presented as having objective reality”
“it works in the real world and should apply to your government.”
Do you mean to imply that we should expect people to work their way up into positions of responsibility by achieving quantifiable/objective milestones that support the notion that they have obtained experience to function in a management capacity?
Hmmm…. I continue my lonely cry in the wilderness.
I reiterate…
BTW I am waiting for a response.
COME ON DEMS. THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Justine19675 – Please be aware that John McCain stands by calling only the Vietnamese soldiers who held him captive and tortured him and did the same and worse to his fellow American soldiers. Yes, it is an ugly word, but he used it only to describe the ugly, sadistic monsters who tortured and killed his countrymen. Please stop distorting the truth to say that he refers to all Vietnamese with that phrase – it is a blatant lie!
Posted by: gmp | September 23, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
I say kudos to Obama. He is honest .
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Honest? Fannie and Freddy started this entire mess. McCain wanted to regulate them two years ago, and Obama, Dodd, and Barney Frank killed the legislation. Oh, and guess who got the most money from Fannie and Freddy. Clue: Dodd, Frank, Obama.
With honesty like this … who needs liars? Inquiring americans want to know.
Posted by: thomas J gassett | September 23, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Trish, well, I’m really sorry you think the government is worth so little, and has so little to offer.
But, I can dispute this claim right now as I lived overseas before: “European healthcare has already demonstrated what a dismal failure socialized medicine can be. I’ll keep my world class, constantly improving, health care that I have now. Which, by the way I can get the moment I need it…not 6 months from now.”
Actually, when I needed help in the UK, I walked into a clinic at 11:00am, got stitches for a sports injury, and walked out 2 hours later. And didn’t pay a dime. Wonder what the out of pocket would have been in the US?
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Barack Obama is touting his plan to roll back the tax cuts given to the rich to pay for programs for the poor. If Obama takes away the tax cuts for the rich he could theoretically (about $50 billion in each of the next two years) use it to pay for government-sponsored, universal healthcare, larger entitlement spending, and a host of social programs.
Sounds good, right?
What Obama isn’t telling us is that the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010, and that all of the proceeds for taxing the rich are already figured into Office of Management and Budget’s long-term spending and deficit forecasts.
All of that doesn’t include Obama’s $800 billion in new spending over the next four years. In order to balance the budget, one might say “raise taxes” an Obama mantra.
According to the Congressional Budget Office, just to pay for current programs (Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, among others), the federal government would have to almost double all tax rates over the next four decades.
This means that under Obama’s spending plan, low-income families who do pay taxes would pay almost 20% in federal taxes instead of today’s 10% rate. The middle class, the group Obama claims to provide the most tax relief to, would have to pay closer to 50% as opposed to 25%.
So how will Obama and the Democrats pay for existing programs while adding billions in new ones? The answer is very simple, “fuzzy math”. What Obama is assuming is that a Democrat-controlled Congress will pass the Bush tax cuts in 2010, and then immediately repeal them, creating new revenue.
Posted by: JP | September 23, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
To the moron that keeps crying that the Dems can’t give him Obama’s qualifications: he’s 40 some years old and a native born United States citizen. He thus meets all the qualifications>>>>>>>>>>
Translation: Obama is the most unqualified clown to ever win a major nomination for president. This isn’t an opinion … it’s a FACT.
Posted by: thomas J gassett | September 23, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Whatever this liar Obama says, run the other direction. He and his Crony Capitalists in Congress had a chance this year to fix fannie and freddie, but then he would have been short those $$Hundreds of thousands. The reason he might sound really smooth on this subject is because he has the ex-CEOs coaching him on his Blackberry — they know all the right lies to say, they’ve been doing it for years, that’s what got us here. Meanwhile, George Bush tried to turn this around years ago, and John McCain has been doing his part, too. Watch out, Emporer Obama-with-no-clothes, your pitiful record can’t hide behind that Blackberry.
Posted by: Carol in Oregon | September 23, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Obama‘s Friends and Mentors:
1. Williams Ayers a 1960’s Weatherman terrorist and helped Obama with is Senate race.
2. Bernardine Dohrn a 1960’s Weatherman terrorist (married to Ayers) and also killed a San Francisco police officer.
3. Alice Palmer a United States Congresswoman that liked the Communist Soviets social plan for their people above the democratic system in the United States.
4. Frank Marshall Davis was Obama’s father figure in Hawaii during his youth and was a member of the US communist party.
5. Saul Alinsky the author of Rules for Radicals ( Agitate, Aggravate and Educate and then Organize).
6. Jeremiah Wright was Obama’s pastor for 20 years
7. Tony Rezko was an Obama fundraiser and a friend for 17 years. Recently sent to jail.
8. Khalid al Mansoor (a muslim) is a top advisor to the Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, which helped Obama get into Harvard.
Posted by: JP | September 23, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Hey Politico …
“Last I checked America was not about Free Health Care or Free College. You have the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. If you can afford healthcare go to one of the free clinics. If you can’t afford school get a job, or a loan, or a scholarship just like everyone else has done. Giving government control of everything is NOT American. That goes for the Bail out too.”
But, isn’t the very basic notion of any government to collect taxes and provide for the good of its citizens?
I mean, hell, there is nothing in the Constitution providing fire protection in local towns either. Does that mean we should stop funding the fire department?
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Justine thats why we have local elections. The federal government doesnt provide for my fire department down the street.
Posted by: Politico | September 23, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
1. Electing McCain just on the basis of experience is ridiculous. Yes, McCain does have more experience, but as being a Senator – the same type of experience Obama has. Besides being senators McCain has military experience where Obama has educational (law school) experience. McCain was a POW and Obama was a community organizer. It seems like their experience is very similar to me. Maybe we should vote based on their ideas and plans instead.
2. Republicans are always afraid of government growing and having too much power. BUT! An unprecedented financial power has reared its ugly head. A TRILLION in bailouts!!! When did government have the responsibility for buying out large failing businesses? This is a trillion dollar risk that Americans did not sign on for. Governments role is to regulate not to own!!! I understand that the situation is more complicated than this, but what I said is true and it has happened under a Republican’s Presidency. This is something I would expect it under a Democratic Presidency. Of course Obama agrees as well.
Posted by: IanVand | September 23, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
KP, and McCain’s buddy was Charles Keating, who was wining and dining John and Cindy McCain, and flying them around the country on his private jet, to his vacation homes … and all while enlisting McCain to help in the biggest defrauding of the taxpayer in recent memory …
That is, until this most recent giveaway which, again, McCain supports.
And the fact remains, Weather Underground doesn’t impact my life. The Great Bush/McCain Giveaway of 2008 will.
If you wanna play that game, we can. Lots of McCain lobbyists and advisers calling America a “nation of whiners” out there. 30 years in DC is a looooong time to make friends …
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Jim, I agree with your Biden prediction. I’ve spent the last couple of days, literally, literally, studying Biden.
He’ll be 66 in November, having spent 36 years in the Senate in 2009. He’s a Quick Draw McGraw when it comes to decisions, but I’ll bet he’s had the last month to think about this VP decision and regrets it.
Joe doesn’t like regrets. He doesn’t do well when it comes to hold back his feelings. He actually likes to use facial expressions to show things like, oh, contempt, disapproval, derision, impatience. People keep expecting McCain to show a temper. Well, have you seen Joe?
Here are his regrets:
1st, he loses his Senate seat, a nice cushy job that has literally, literally been his only job for the last 36 years. He loves that job!!
2nd, why start a new job at the age of 66 which may not pay that much more and may actually be boring? No glory in being VP, especially when you have to follow the young un around and act subservient and control your facial expressions.
3rd, the VP job is actually not Joe’s cup of tea. He’ll be under control of the Secret Service, not free on weekends to hang in Scranton, and required to give those pesky speeches that will just result in more lectures by the young un. But mainly, BORING!! He’ll get no respect all of a sudden. 2nd fiddle, the afterthought.
4th, he’s facing a sticky wicket when it comes to his Senate seat. He expects to win it in November along with the V.P. job. But there’s a very good opponent running for it now in Del. She just MAY win if he doesn’t show up to debate her. I hear she’s a great debater and that’s not good for Joe. He may not win, either way. If he does, he expects it to go to Beau Biden and Gov. Minner has already made plans to give it to him. But Beau, who is also the Attorney General of Delaware, has been assigned to the military’s JAG Corps in Kuwait (that’s right – not actually IRAQ!! The cushy high rise lawyers offices are in Kuwait) for the next year. You think the military cares about Beau Biden’s inheritance of Joe’s Senate Seat? The word may have already come down that Beau won’t get a free pass out of his military stint or be able to do double-duty – triple duty – forgot that pesky Attorney General spot. Joe depends on Beau taking that Senate seat. Why? Good question. How thick we weave our webs of power and deceit. All on the backs of the good people of the Great State of Delaware.
5th, and foremost. Biden doesn’t really know foreign affairs. I’m sure Obama already knows this. It’s sad. Biden can parrot the Democratic Party Line, holds positions of authority based solely on seniority, and answers to no one but the citizens of the Great State of Delaware who have handed him election after election for 36 years no questions asked, no debate, no effort. Nobody has held this man accountable for anything for 36 years and I’m sure Obama is awake and aware by now.
Posted by: Mary F | September 23, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I know that most everyone thinks that we need National Health Care in this country. If you study countries around the world that have NHC, you will find that most give basic care such as shots and setting broken bones and such services that a health clinic would handle. It does not give care to seniors that they feel are too old and would use funds needed for younger people. It does not treat illnesses such cancer, by-pass surgery and other serious illnesses in a time which is acceptable, if at all. People wait for months and months for an MRI. I have a friend that died from a gall bladder problem because she was made to wait for 18 months before she could have surgery. I don’t think America will like NHC. England is moving away from total NHC because they found it could not be sustained and services are now rationed.
Posted by: Lee Ruth | September 23, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
No Justine…the basic concept of government is not to collect taxes to provide for the public.
Think about it. The government takes your tax dollars and hands out assistance checks, but how good is that assistance. Tell me justine, if all this taxation is going to help the poor and middle class, why the hell is the government spending millions on the research of the mating habits of a fruit fly in france? Hmmm… Don’t tell me that they’re going to help people. They’re wasting Billions right now. Why aren’t they using that money to “help people?”
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Hmmm…. I continue my lonely cry in the wilderness.
I reiterate…
BTW I am waiting for a response.
COME ON DEMS. THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!
I love the Dems’ remarks! When it comes defending Obama, they cannot point to one substantive fact that supports the notion that this man is qualified to be POTUS. Come on give me something more than “Change” or “Hope”.
Looking around, whistling, crickets chirping. It sure is quiet here. It is amazing that Dems cannot state one quantifiable fact in support of Obama’s qualifications. This is why Obama will not be elected president. After all you wouldn’t hire an intern to be the CEO of a large corporation. LOL.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
“And the fact remains, Weather Underground doesn’t impact my life. The Great Bush/McCain Giveaway of 2008 will.”
Terrorism doesn’t effect your life?
Having a president with ties to terrorism won’t effect your life?
Having a president that has sat under the tutilage of anti-american extremists won’t effect your life?
Where can I get one of your protective glass bubbles for my family?
Posted by: Trish | September 23, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
“Lauer was talking about how Obama hit Sen. McCain, R-Ariz., for flip-flopping on the AIG bailout — saying he opposed it one day then announced he supported it the next day.”
I didn’t see Lauer mention anything about McCain flip-flopping in this video.
Jake Tapper, is this more “Creative Writing 101?”
Someone please, please report the facts. All this fact checking is getting tiring.
Posted by: Jesse | September 23, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Jose–
Obama was right about opposing the war in Iraq.
He was right about timelines for withdrawal (which even Bush is now pursuing).
He was right that more resources are needed in Afghanistan.
He was right about having talks with Iran (which even the Bush administration has been pursuing).
Obama is intellectually more than capable of the job as someone who has taught Constitutional law at the University of Chicago and served in the Illinois Senate and in the US Senate.
His record in the US Senate is impressive on a wide range of issues, including government transparency and national security.
He actually gets heavily involved in the details of bills, and knows what he’s talking about.
Obama also has a calm, logical temperament.
What are McCain’s qualifications?
Posted by: Danny | September 23, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
If you want a President Worse then Jimmy Carter then Vote for Obama! He will be our worst President ever and that’s hard to top carter on that but he will. Obama will also turn out to be a Traitor to our Country!!
Posted by: PETE | September 23, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
I have looked at the two last presidential daily state-by-state polls covering sept and October. They match exactly the polling that is happening today…. exactly…. obama is not ahead in any.. Not only that….. the last two elections showed the dems had Virginia and Pennsylvania leaning there way….those two states are now eather tied up or leaning republican.. . I see no possible way technically that NoBama Can Win!
Posted by: derrek michigan | September 23, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
saying that you trust the government to handle 700 billion dollars is possibly the stupidest thing i have read on this site. that is exactly the opposite of what i would want. and Obama has so many great ideas? all he has is ideas and they aren’t new. they have been tried and failed all over the world. or are in the process of failing. he is a man of absolutely no action and all words, all speeches.
Posted by: rod peters | September 23, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
I asked for one (1) objective fact and none was given. Let’s go through one by one. My text is all caps.
Obama was right about opposing the war in Iraq. (OPINION. DEPENDS ON YOUR POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW)
He was right about timelines for withdrawal (which even Bush is now pursuing). (OPINION. DEPENDS ON YOUR POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW. OBAMA WAS ALSO AGAINST THE SURGE AND WAS ADVOCATING WITHDRAWAL BEFORE THE SURGE)
He was right that more resources are needed in Afghanistan. (Yes, he did call for more troops. So what, this is not a new notion.)
He was right about having talks with Iran (which even the Bush administration has been pursuing). (REALLY? WHEN, WHERE, HOW? IT SEEMS THAT ALL TALK IS DOING IS BUYING TIME FOR THE NUCLEAR MULLAHS).
Obama is intellectually more than capable of the job as someone who has taught Constitutional law at the University of Chicago and served in the Illinois Senate and in the US Senate.(OPINION. MY, MY WHAT AN ELITIST POINT OF VIEW. AS IF THIS “EXPERIENCE” ENDOWS HIM WITH SPECIAL FORETHOUGHT. HIS LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE IS MINIMAL (1997-2004 STATE AND 2004-2005 US SENATE, 2005-PRESENT CAMPAIGNING FOR PRESIDENT)
His record in the US Senate is impressive on a wide range of issues, including government transparency and national security. (NO SUBSTANCE OR FACTS HERE. HIS SO-CALLED ETHICS REFORM BILL WAS NOT CHALLENGED BY ANY ONE WISHING TO REMAIN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. HE TOOK NO CONTROVERSIAL OR COURAGEOUS POSITIONS IN ADVOCATING FOR THIS BILL. THIS IS THE EXTENT OF HIS FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE)
He actually gets heavily involved in the details of bills, and knows what he’s talking about. (HUH? AGAIN OPINION WITH NO SUBSTANCE).
Obama also has a calm, logical temperament. (OPINION. BY YOUR DESCRIPTION HE IS MR. SPOCK0.
What are McCain’s qualifications? SEE BELOW
MCCAIN GRADUATED FROM THE U.S. NAVAL ACADEMY IN 1958. HE BECAME A NAVAL AVIATOR, FLYING GROUND-ATTACK AIRCRAFT FROM AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. DURING THE VIETNAM WAR, HE NEARLY LOST HIS LIFE IN THE 1967 USS FORRESTAL FIRE. LATER THAT YEAR WHILE ON A BOMBING MISSION OVER NORTH VIETNAM, HE WAS SHOT DOWN, BADLY INJURED, AND CAPTURED AS A PRISONER OF WAR BY THE NORTH VIETNAMESE. HE WAS HELD FROM 1967 TO 1973, EXPERIENCING EPISODES OF TORTURE AND REFUSING AN OUT-OF-SEQUENCE EARLY REPATRIATION OFFER; HIS WAR WOUNDS WOULD LEAVE HIM WITH LIFELONG PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS.
HE RETIRED FROM THE NAVY AS A CAPTAIN IN 1981, MOVED TO ARIZONA, AND ENTERED POLITICS. ELECTED TO THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN 1982, HE SERVED TWO TERMS, AND WAS THEN ELECTED TO THE U.S. SENATE IN 1986, WINNING RE-ELECTION EASILY IN 1992, 1998, AND 2004.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Obama’s tax plan will not work. Here are the simple mechanics of how this will work. You don’t need an MBA to be able to figure this out…
Rich people make lots of money which then enables them to make even more money. They do invest in businesses and they do give to charity. If they don’t do this the government just taxes them on money they’ve already been taxed on. Simple, so far. When Obama makes his tax increases law the rich folks will now: invest less and give less to charity. So who is going to fill this void? The US Government. However the extra tax money “stolen” from the rich will now start to decline because they will now be “less rich” due to Obama’s taxes. As the cash flow to the US Treasury begins to decrease the only choice will be a middle-class TAX INCREASE which Obama will gladly implement because he will unable to roll back the socialist programs he instituted because it would cause a revolution (anyone remember Al Sharpton and his pals recent halting ALL traffic on the NJ Turnpike and midtown Manhattan?).
Okay, your choice is now a lot clearer…just vote McCain.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
McCain was trying to fix the mortgage issue back in 2006 but was stopped. Obama gets massive donations from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac personnel. Who’s really the voice of change?
Posted by: K.F. Miller | September 23, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I;m highly disturbed by the Obama Ayers Annenburg axis, and at tmany Dems “come on, he hardly knew the guy” line. The Annenburg papaers have been research since (rel;uctant) release. Here is what we have:
* Obama had a long-term working relationship with William Ayers.
* The Chicago Annenberg Challenge (“CAC”), the only executive experience on Obama’s resume, was an objective failure despite the expenditure of millions of dollars.
* Through the CAC, Ayers and Obama financed radical organizations, including one with a history of engaging in voter fraud.
Here are more facts according to respected moderate Bill Kurtz, who has analysed the Annenburg papers:
Ayers is the founder of the “small schools” movement (heavily funded by CAC), in which individual schools built around specific political themes push students to “confront issues of inequity, war, and violence.” He believes teacher education programs should serve as “sites of resistance” to an oppressive system. . . The point, says Mr. Ayers in his “Teaching Toward Freedom,” is to “teach against oppression,” against America’s history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.
CAC funded Ayers’ teacher training programs — the ones designed to promote “resistance” to an oppressive system. The minutes Kurtz reviewed show that, under Obama and pursuant to Ayers’ principles, proposals from groups that focused on math/science achievement were turned down, while CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn). Indeed, Obama once conducted “leadership training” seminars with Acorn, and Acorn members also served as volunteers in Mr. Obama’s early campaigns. Meanwhile, according to Kurtz, “external partners like the South Shore African Village Collaborative and the Dual Language Exchange focused more on political consciousness, Afrocentricity and bilingualism than traditional education.”
This is very disturbing but the mainstream media refuse to touch it.
Posted by: Peter Gee | September 23, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Jose, you forgot to mention that he was put on trial in the US Senate and publicly admitted to accepting over $100,000 in illegal gifts from Charles Keating, the man behind the S&L Collapse of the 1980s.
And that was while in Congress, supposedly under the public trust. Surely that is worth mentioning, that he whored himself out once to the special interests and was dragged publicly on TV over it?
That might be why McCain refuses to offer any definition for what it means to be “honorable.”
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Ralph writes, “You don’t need an MBA to be able to figure this out…”
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Actually you do and those who DON’T have one should keep their mouths closed.
Posted by: Dems | September 23, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Go ahead and elect Obama and see what’s left of the US really go down in flames. What has he ever done to think he knows what to do about the country?
Posted by: larocker | September 23, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Oh, Jose, you’re right … and of course, McCain still didn’t pay Keating back for the gifts until years later.
You know, though, as a sitting US Senator, accepting gifts for 5 years – and only afterwards, feeling like he had exercised “poor judgement?” That is, after he was investigated and reprimanded by his colleagues in the public trust?
Hmmmmm … that is the poor judgment we’d expect from a newly-minted Senatorial reformer. I would expect a Senator would at least try to remain above even the impression of impropriety when it comes to bribery and graft, don’t you?
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Ralph: “When Obama makes his tax increases law the rich folks will now: invest less and give less to charity. So who is going to fill this void?”
Actually, that is not true, considering the taxes are on capital gains taxes. So, if I’m wealthy and I invest some money and make $1,000,000 profit, if I pay 300,000 in taxes, or 400,000 in taxes … that extra 100,000 is not going to be enough to keep me from investing, because I still made a profit of 600,000.
Granted, it is less than I would have, but there are actually absolutely no economic models (nor evidence) that any economic animal would say, “Hmmmmm, I used to make a 700,000 profit on my investment, but now I’ll only make 600,000 … so I won’t invest anything, and I’ll just leave the money in an interest bearing account.”
Of course, that interest would still be subject to taxation anyway :)
And, as for charitable giving, since most people give to charities for the tax breaks (reducing taxable income, or having itemizations to take against tax owed), why would the wealthy stop giving? If anything, they might need to give more to offset … LOL!
Now, that would probably be a welcome result …
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Thank You Trish…you are a true Patriot.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Touche Justine19675, I don’t disagree. He made a bad choice and moved on. He has served without incident since. Maybe he learned a lesson from his error. Now lets address Obama’s faults and inability to reconcile same. He is unapologetic for his associations with terrorists (Ayers), rascists (Wright) and thugs (Rezko). Explain your way out of this one.
Posted by: Jose | September 23, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Per Biden, giving more of your money to taxes is patriotic. My question: Is being on welfare make one unpatriotic?
Posted by: Delbert | September 23, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Looking kinda like Oblahblah is going to get his wealth redistribution plan president or not. problem is those of us without wealth are going to ours redistributed also. Dems to allow drilling ban to expire. The only way they get anything done is to do nothing. Democratic idiots.
Posted by: rover | September 23, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Justine,
I respect your opinion but do not forget that if you bite the hand that feeds you…you are less likely to get fed again. I know that may sound a little “folksy” but it’s true. I’m not rich by any means but if the government all of a sudden started taking a much larger percentage of my money every year I would find every loophole available to not pay them anything at all. And now we’re back to the government having to make the unfortunate choice of taxing the middle class or cutting government funding for social programs. There’s a logic here that overlaps and makes both of us partially correct but I also believe that taking from one to give to another is not exactly fair. The only fair tax is a flat tax but that is clearly not doable because it would return us the feudal system of the middle ages whereby people with large amounts of money could setup their own governments.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
The sad part about all of this talk on saving the economy is that in 2004, Greenspan warned of this happening. In 2005, S. 190, co-authored by McCain, was proprosed by the Republicans in the Senate. This bill was to address the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mack problems and if passed, had a chance to prevent what is going on now. Democrats, to include Hillary and Obama, voted party lines to kill it as opposed to voting for what was right for the United States.
Now look at the situation we are currently in. They blame Bush and the Republicans, yet they are the ones that killed the bill that could have prevented this from happening.
Posted by: Bryan | September 23, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Late in the 4th quarter and of course the dems want to freaking punt. This bunch of marxocrats must go.
Posted by: rover | September 23, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Bush is leaving us with this huge mess on Wall Street, AIG bail out was 85 billion. Now the Wall Street bail out at 700 billion is too much because they will not be held accountable if they are wrong. If Bush was serious about fixing Wall Street he would have done it years ago instead of waiting 39 days before his Presidency ends. The chickens have come home to roost on his watch. I bet he was hoping it won’t happen on his watch so he and his friends can blame the Democrats. McCain has been Wall Streets biggest cheerleader for 26 years and I can’t believe he is trying to blame Obama. Now Biden is a man of the people and hes just too excited about being on the ticket so hes making a few mistakes but his heart is in the right place. The McCain’s strategists have no heart and no one believes them anymore! I would rather take my chances on Biden at least hes talking to reporters. Palin isn’t are they are still training her?
Posted by: Kevin | September 23, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I have had enough of this phony obama…sorry I ever supported him…
Posted by: ckdundee | September 23, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Frank Raines was the head of Fannie M, appointed by Clinton and made about 6 mil. dollars … now he is an NoBama advisor… talking about conflict of interest.
“Obama has no background in economics. Who advises him? The Post says it’s Franklin Raines, for ‘advice on mortgage and housing policy.’ Shocking. Under Raines, Fannie Mae committed ‘extensive financial fraud.’ Raines made millions. Fannie Mae collapsed. Taxpayers? Stuck with the bill
Posted by: DMc | September 23, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Why does everyone want regulation. It’s not the job of the president to regulate. When did we become a communist country? Why does everyone look to the government for help now. People used to have pride. The government should stay out of this and I know it will cause problems, the scope of which, we’ve probably not seen since the depression but we got ourselves into it and the only way out is to let nature take its course. A child learns a far greater and more lasting lesson by experiencing set backs first hand than having mom and dad step in and rescue them. That culture is what has given us kids like Paris Hilton. Don’t tell me that people think that is a better outcome… As far as Obama and his ability to make decisions, his ego prevented him from choosing Hillary, a person that all but guaranteed a victory by the Dems. Instead he chooses Biden, a man that can’t even
Posted by: AC | September 23, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
There he goes again. He tells the news media what the public thinks. WRONG!!! In this case Matt L was right. With his VP pick saying the oposite of Obama, it looks like Obama is just trying to make points. Wait a minute….not looks like, HE IS!! As usual, he takes every opprotunity to insult and put down McCain and Palin..Period Obama made a mistake picking Biden, FACT. Now he is reaping the results and all the while crying foul. Boo Hoo
Posted by: Robin | September 23, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 was repealed in 1999 with congress controlled by Republicans with Phil Graham’s name all over it, then the Clinton Admin. signed it into law. Give the Republicans their credit for this!!
Posted by: rickyt1234 | September 23, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Their new antics. Don’t be surprised if this happens. Maybe Biden will bow out as I have heard and Hillary wil step in. Report from a DNC insider:
On or about October 5th, Biden will excuse himself from the ticket, citing
health problems, and he will be replaced by Hillary. This is timed to occur
after the VP debate on 10/2.
There have been talks all weekend about how to proceed with this info.
Generally, the feeling is that we should all go ahead and get it out there
to as many blog sites and personal email lists as is possible. I have
already seen a few short blurbs about this – the ‘health problem’ cited in
those articles was aneurysm. Probably many of you have heard the same
rumblings.
However, at this point, with this inside info from the DNC, it looks like
this Obama strategy will be a go. Therefore, it seems that the best
strategy is to get out in front of this Obama maneuver, spell it out in
detail, and thereby expose it for the grand manipulation that it is.
Posted by: Lisa | September 23, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Joe Biden was chosen for VP, for his honesty ,free spirit and experience!
He’s supposed to make a point when is needed. Sarah Plain was chosen for the position after only one meeting .The decisive factor was only the women’s vote and the prerequisite to be the John McCain cheerleader. She makes only scripted interviews and has very thin Resume. Sarah Plain VP? Thanks but not thanks!
Posted by: foreclosure | September 23, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Peter Gee
Maybe they (the media) won’t touch it because it’s not important! That’s old news, “that dog just won’t hunt”
What else do you have?
Posted by: fempharoh08 | September 23, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
The O/B camp isn’t ready for prime time, whichever way you figure it.
First, they put out a tasteless ad, apparently unaware of McCain’s injuries (though that’s been widely discussed in Salon and elsewhere).
If Biden really spoke without seeing the ad, he’s too hasty. If that excuse is lie, it’s a damaging one.
In any case it doesn’t address the issue (of whether McCain’s personal non-use of the internet is important), it just claims McCain does worse ads — which would be rather hard to do.
IN fact, in an earlier contest McCain’s campaign made very good use of the internet.
Posted by: fsteele | September 23, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Ronk, it’s a good point.
But, as a counter of investor behavior …
I guess if the taxes were higher, then we probably wouldn’t need a ONE TRILLION DOLLAR bailout of all the people who went for the open market, rather than municipal securities. I wonder if that would be such a bad thing in the end anyway …
And plus, you think that people will actually be preferring to invest in a Dearborn, Michigan sewage project over, I dunno, Microsoft, or Berkshire Hathaway? That strikes me as a pretty bold assumption, given the size of the equities markets, and the current scale of the present crisis …
But seriously, do you have any idea how large the municipal bond market is compared to the global securities market? Truly?
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 23, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
It alarms me that Obama’s tax plan (or is it a JACK — as Chris Rock likes to say) so closely mirrors the teaching of the Koran. The similarities are stunning.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Thats why Obama wound up as the Dems nominee and not Joe. lol
On such a significant issue, Joe should have cleared any position he’s taking with his ‘boss’. lol
Posted by: Patriot | September 23, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
The replace Biden scenario just points out Oblahblahs’ judgement. I mean lack there of.
It would I beleive be the end of HRC hopes for Pres. Wonder if she would sacrifice the grand prize for the sake of who knows what.
Posted by: rover | September 23, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
The “chosen one” can’t even control what his running mate says, but he plans to tell us when to get tune-ups, inflate our tires, what to eat, when to send our kids to school, what temperature to set the thermostat at, what kinds of cars to buy, what to do about health insurance, etc., etc., etc.
What an idiot.
Posted by: notafool | September 23, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Folks, let’s have a frank discussion about the news media’s fear of reporting the truth about Obama over fears of being labeled racist. It’s clear that the media “seems” to favor Obama but it’s not a case of true favoritism just a case of the aforementioned “phoney racism charges against the media by Democrats.” Okay, so in spite of the obvious advantage Obama holds in the court of public opinion (due to the media “advantage”) we still see that the race is virtually tied. Add to that the fact that many African-Americans are voting for Barry based soley on his race (another clear advantage) and we STILL HAVE A TIE. Realistically, if the unfair advantages are taken away McCain would handily win the election.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
“It’s clear that the media “seems” to favor Obama but it’s not a case of true favoritism just a case of the aforementioned “phoney racism charges against the media by Democrats.”
The post and conclusion are pretty close to the mark.
But the media lusts of Obama only partially because of his race. The other elements are Socialism, and their love of appeasement.
Posted by: notafool | September 23, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
To Ralph:
I think we are better off spending our time doing something else then trying to reason with people on this website. It is NOT going to happen man. They aren’t going to listen. Instead they are going to say that you should have never existed. It’s obvious that we can’t have a civil conversation. Go do something else on the web… that’s what i am going to do.
Posted by: Jonnnnn | September 23, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
It is really sad once analyze why McCain select Palin for running mate.
The only criterion was how he could win this election despite the best interest of the country and the American Remember Governor Romney spent the last year campaigning for the Republican presidential nomination and talking to the American people about the importance of strengthening our economy,
And we listening the person, who is running for crucial position on public office,
To be overconfident untrained rigid and answering with out vacillation
Yes I am ready to be President like that job is similar to a manager position on the local Wall Mart shop.
The same person last month was saying if some can explain to me what the Vice President do? Her story is SPIN, LIES and LIPSTICK
Posted by: foreclosure | September 23, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
This Bail Out is a Bipartisan Screwing of America.
Posted by: Dennis D | September 23, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
NOW THAT IS AN INTERVIEW. Good Job, but do you realize how MANY MANY MANY more tricky subjects you have to cover with him in just a short bit of time. His work with ACORN to fight those nasty banks and their RACISM by making sure they get subprime loans they could never afford, while Joe Biden got in there and made sure to cut these people off after interest rates went up by going all out to change the rules on being able to claim BANKRUPCY. There’s some dirty bs going on.
Posted by: Teresa | September 23, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
The choice is still clear:
We are not two nations, but one nation….
And senator Obama will win….
Posted by: 1 Nation | September 23, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
“And we listening the person, who is running for crucial position on public office,
To be overconfident untrained rigid and answering with out vacillation
Yes I am ready to be President like that job is similar to a manager position on the local Wall Mart shop.”
Well said. and that is why I am not voting for Obama.
He isn’t even qualified to be a manager at WalMart
Posted by: notafool | September 23, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Is this Laur’s example of fair and balanced?
Posted by: shalom | September 23, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
You mean we need more government oversight? This is what got us into this, just do your research and see who’s hands are full of the Wall Street blood.
Posted by: Sergio | September 23, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
To quote Victor Davis Hanson, “Obama couldn’t lead a Boy Scout troop.” But I digress. As for Biden stepping down, why would Hillary want to step aboard the Titanic?
Posted by: Joanne600 | September 23, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
There is only one thing that anyone reguardless of party affiliation should be asking. Will America survive with the choice I make. It is clear if you have been researching the foundation of the subprime market mess, the fox has been guarding the hen house. Each of us had better search deep before pulling that lever, pushing, that button, or filling in that black dot because the survival of America as a Nation hangs in the balance. The choice is ours. Who do we want to guard it. Someone whos best experience is…2 years in the Senate or someone who guarded her for 5 1/2 years from a cell. I’m not much for pretty speaches or faces in women or politician’s but let me know their heart and I’ll know the quality of that man or woman. You make your choice, but make a wise one, remember you will have to live with it.
Posted by: Wayne | September 23, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
I predict the Democrats are going to pull an October surprise. This Obama/Biden team is just a joke, they plan on revealing the real candidates just a week or two prior to the election. Insiders, however, say the ticket will be Vladamir Putin/Paris Hilton!
Posted by: Toby | September 23, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
how dare you give him a hard question, matt lauer! how dare you!
Posted by: Greg | September 23, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
The voters need the mainstream media more then ever to ask those important questions that are being discussed at the dinner tables all across this country about Wall Street and about the candidates positions on these issues. More Voters are accessing the Internet now which also helps. Now we know about Palin avoiding the media which in simple terms means she can’t handle a brunch of reporters which leads to the conclusion she will never be ready for the White House. The Internet does that makes us more aware of whats happening. Now I know the conservatives have Fox and Drudge but they don’t speak to the majority of Americans. Ever try posting on Breitbart? If you ever tried then you all know what I’m talking about. Biden may be a scrappy kid from Scranton, PA but hes our scrappy kid. And this article linked up to Drudge isn’t going to change that.
Posted by: Ruth | September 23, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Justine19675…you are placing the blame on the current problems on the wrong people…we are not having these problems because too many individuals were investing in the market. We are having these problems due to mismanagement and bad bets by large financial institutions. the Trillion dollars we are bailing out is not the money lost by investors, but money needed to make these companies solvant.
Obviously not all municipalities are as fundimentally stromg as others. But being directly backed by a municipality and indirectly backed by the state many muni bonds are considered, aside from federal treasuries, some of the safest places to put your money. and especially during tough times, I think most investors will have more faith in the solvency of state and local governments than in companies. Because as seen in the last week even the biggest companies can quickly turn south.
I work in the finance industry so I have a decent idea of size and scope of the muni and stock markets. but you are missing the point. Muni bonds are just one place investors can turn. My main point was if I am taking on considerable risk to earn a given return, when my return is taxed an extra 10% it may no longer make the risk worth the return. Its not like people are returning 50% on their investments. at 8%-12% return a slight tax increase might make the investment too risky for what its worth. especially when that 8%-12% is not garanteed and it could easily be 2%-3% in many years
Posted by: ronk | September 23, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
too many differences emerging between obama and biden..something’s up!
Posted by: zeke | September 23, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Would love to be a fly on the wall when Hillary votes.
Posted by: Rick | September 23, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
In the words of the tax dodger, Charlie Rangel, Obama and Biden sound “disabled”.
Posted by: Leo | September 23, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Obama & Biden must not be talking to each other these days…maybe it’s time for a change they can believe in.
Posted by: zeke | September 23, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Jose–
Anyone who considers teaching Constitutional law at one of America’s best universities to be elitist is being pretty disrespectful to education and the Constitution in my opinion.
And how exactly does finishing 5th from the bottom of the Naval Academy and fighting in the Vietnam War qualify anyone to be President?
So that leaves being a politician from a very conservative state for a long time.
Whatever. He voted against having a holiday for Martin Luther King. He’s been a champion of deregulation for years, and that’s what just tanked the economy.
Nice.
Posted by: Danny | September 23, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Jose–
Anyone who considers teaching Constitutional law at one of America’s best universities to be elitist is being pretty disrespectful to education and the Constitution in my opinion.
And how exactly does finishing 5th from the bottom of the Naval Academy and fighting in the Vietnam War qualify anyone to be President?
So that leaves being a politician from a very conservative state for a long time.
Whatever. He voted against having a holiday for Martin Luther King. He’s been a champion of deregulation for years, and that’s what just tanked the economy.
Nice.
Posted by: Danny | September 23, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
This is not a red or blue issue. I’m a STAUNCH conservative, and an evangelical no less, and LOVE my country. However, I believe that ALL of us simply need to look in the mirror and can find the blame looking right back at ourselves; not to all of this financial debacle, but to a good portion of this mess. To the individuals that are completely debt free and doing business with actual money “only” BRAVO.
To the rest of you that have bit into the “sub-prime” loan bait… lots of money with no responsibility and no regulation and chokingly HIGH interest rates and took the low road and went for the ARM that MUTATED after 3 years to 15% or to of the others that have borrowed FAR BEYOND their means, SHAME ON YOU!!!!! PEOPLE, KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING BEFORE SIGNING THESE CONTRACTS!!!!
I know that we had foxes watching the money till on Wall Street in this situation, but the beginning of the end started well over a year ago with the sub prime loans going under, then the car loans, and then finally home foreclosures. No $$ to cover when payout came due.
I don’t think that either of the main stream candidates really know what to do and one is even more clueless than the other (that would be YOU No-bama) and the only candidate that I have confidence in for this situation specifically is a Libertarian (yes, stand up Ron).
However, when I listen to John McCain, I believe with every fiber of my being that this man will work to the death to improve our country in every facet demanded of him.
No-bama on the other hand is an opportunist just like the rest of the flag stuffing in the trash can after the DNC, leftists.
With No-bama in office we will find a rutterless society desparately trying to find anywhere to drop anchor. We will be adrift for four years with our national security in a death spiral just like our economy.
MCCAIN-PALIN 2008
Posted by: Auscon04 | September 23, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Actually I would add several more qualifications for President which Jose didn’t mention from the info he got from wikipedia–McCain had some significant responsibilities in the Navy after he returned from Vietnam, and received numerous military honors before retiring.
A point, however, is that none of this necessarily qualifies anyone to be President.
The qualifications are in the eye of the beholder. As are the disqualifications.
We could recite facts to each other until we turn blue.
Ultimately I think it is easier to point out “deal-breakers” which would disqualify someone from the Presidency.
For me, some of those for McCain are first of all, being a Republican, secondly, repeatedly opposing the MLK holiday, third, appointing a totally unqualifed VP.
For all we can say about Biden’s gaffes, he has the intellect and knowledge to serve as President successfully.
In my opinion, Palin never will…
Posted by: Danny | September 23, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
This crap about Obama’s teaching constitutional law being a big plus for POTUS is so silly. I dare say that I have sat in more Undergraduate, graduate, and post doctoral lectures than nearly anyone on this website and I will state unhesitatingly that the Academics I have known are some of the biggest pinheads in the world. They are not only stupid but many of them were emotionally disturbed and disorganized. I would rather be governed by a randomly selected Kentucky farmer than almost any Academic.
Posted by: DAK | September 23, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Obama cannot even run his own ticket?????
Yet he can run all of America??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Posted by: No Bama | September 23, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
I can’t believe Matt Lauer’s question asking technique. “If you’re LUCKY enough to become president” How dare you Matt Lauer. I used to like Matt Lauer. USED TO. Well, the Mayan calander is ending soon. If McCain becomes president, I’m cashing out the retirement and going on a HELLA vacation because we won’t be around for long after that, so no need to save. Open up your eyes everyone!! Do you really want 4 more years of what we already had for the past eight?? HELLLO. I’m not the uneducated one who voted for BUSH, nor will I be voting for McCain, but of course the same people never change, and just when you think our country could not be worse off, here comes McCain. Were hated enough around the world. Isn’t it time for a change???? P.S. Bring our Soldiers home!! We love them!!
Posted by: Sonya | September 23, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
I’ve been out of this country for the past 6 years. Reading these responses to flip-flop accusations, I realize I should have remained in the service of my country outside of America, because you’ve all cease to be Americans. I wish you luck. I’ve love America so much that I’ll leave whatever this country is and you non-Americans can say good riddance. All the best.
Posted by: Peter nolan smith | September 23, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Good Point Sonya! I will be cashing out the Roth IRA too if McCain is LUCKY enough to win. I am sadly one that was blinded by Bush. Never again.
Vacation in Cabo sounds great.
-Former Republican
Posted by: Charles | September 23, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
The economy is just fine, the war is essentially over and Bin Laden should turn himself in to the FBI any day now.
So why is all the screaming coming from the right? You guys have been doing a bang up job.
Posted by: jhop | September 23, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
I served our Country with pride for the past 15 years. Never have I felt that we are in this war for the right reasons. Palin’s quote: “A task from God.” PLLease. I would like to see her take a trip to Iraq and see all the people dying. WWJD? I don’t think he would go to Iraq and bust a cap in someone innocent’s a** for no reason. Whoever wins, this is a sticky situation. I’m putting my money on OBAMA because the Republican’s have’nt done anything but get us in some more s***.
GO OBAMA
Posted by: Dewayne Johnson | September 23, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
The Chosen One has had great clarity the past few days on the economic crisis. His response has been to sit back, wait for John McCain to come up with a recovery plan, and then criticize it. That’s certainly not leadership worthy of a President, but it fits a con man like Obama to a tee.
The big story coming up, though, might be Joe Biden. Joe and TCO have sure been making a big show of getting on each others’ nerves the past few days. So don’t be surprised if Old Joe develops a serious health problem during the next week or so and bows out of the Vice-Presidential race. This will open up the VP slot for Hillary so TCO can fix his “woman problem” before Election Day, and preferably before the VP debate. But be careful what you wish for, Barry — anyone who gets between the Clintons and their political aspirations tends to have a very short life expectancy!
Posted by: Brightfame | September 23, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
McCain was trying to fix the mortgage issue back in 2006 but was stopped. Obama gets massive donations from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac personnel. Who’s really the voice of change?
Plus the B.O.’s top economics advisor was the head of Fannie Mae and made 90 million dollars in salary while he cooked the books and ran it into the ground.
Yep, sign me up for some of that “change”.
Posted by: Scott | September 23, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
The ignorance displayed in this blog astounds me. Any normal thinking truthful person can look at the past 8 years and see what caused the problems this country is suffering through, and who caused them. I cannot believe that people are so racist or dumb that they would give those republican clowns another shot at the presidency. I cannot believe their are people stupid enough to keep trying to label Obama a muslim. No one in this country can give me one legitimate reason to vote for John McCain. Check his true voting record and things he has said out of his own mouth, and remove all make believe excuses. This country is on the verge of financial collapse, our military is bogged down in an illegal war, and Russia is flexing muscle all over the globe – also in our backyard. And you’ll want to give another Republican a chance. . . . LMAO! This is crazy. John McCain is a political hack. He claims to be this maverick of change, yet he has been in lock step with the repubs for 26 years. . . .just with a little more sarcasm and flair than the rest. John McCain and his cute little pick for running mate are a joke that this country cannot afford.
Posted by: Frankie | September 23, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Scott. . . WOW!!!! Can any republican tell the truth. Why do you’ll lie, stretch the truth, and just completely remove yourselves from reality just to try and make a point. THE TRUTH IS THAT JOHN McCAIN AND BARACK OBAMA RESEVED MONEY FROM FANNIE AND FREDDIE, AND THE FACT IS THAT McCAIN ACTUALLY RESEVED A LITTLE BIT MORE. PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND STOP LISTENING TO SHAWN HANNITY and RUSH.
Posted by: Frankie | September 23, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Frankie: I don’t think so. You must be an avid Obama supporter. Not so about McCain and Obama didn’t have a comeback when McCain stated that Obama was involved with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Leave it to Obama he’s always involved with scandals.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 23, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
I think the question of the hour is whether Biden, McCain, Palin, or Obama has ever said anything during their many speeches that actually added to the voter’s education. When you listen to them, are you wanting to be better informed about issues, or are you just happy with vague promises not knowing fact from fiction. For me I have listened to all many times and have yet to hear a morsel of information that I can add to my education. Instead I have to do all my own hunting in order to wade through the bull.
Posted by: Susan | September 23, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
t: Yes, go Obama back to the senate seat where you belong. And thank god you have that seat after you lied against a woman to win.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 23, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
How long will it be before Obama dumps Joe “foot-in-mouth” Biden and asks Hillary to come aboard???
Biden keeps making contrary comments about his own candidate’s campaign like when he called the ad about McCain’s inability to use a computer, “terrible…I would never have run that ad”. In addition, Biden states that Obama “will never take my guns from me” while trying to quell the question of Obama’s support of the 2nd amendment. Keep it up Joe! You’re making Obama even more laughable.
Posted by: Mary | September 23, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
sp: Palin doesn’t talk to the press because she is smarter than the democrats who like to be in the limelight talking away while the press prints the opposite of what they say. The press can make you or break you and Palin isn’t going to let that happen right now. The press is good at twisting stories and disrupting people’s lives. You know that as well as anyone else.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 23, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Obama has crossed the line from insulting to ridiculous. How stupid does he believe the voting public to be? It has become quite apparent that he will say whatever is politcally expedient regardless of the facts. His attack tactics against Palin have backfired so now they are positioning the failure and removal of Joe Biden to be replaced by Hillary. As someone who admires Hillary’s strength I hope she says no and headlines the ticket in 2012…Obama has become even a characature of the Eddie Murphy character from “Distinguished Gentleman”. Actually the Eddie Murphy character had more depth…
Posted by: Regular Guy | September 23, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Robin: You are so right. Obama says what the media wants to hear and all the networks are pro-Obama. And many of the media are also. Plus the networks have Obama leading when it is just the opposite. They do that to make the public think that McCain is not worth voting for because he will lose. That’s a gimmick their using. I know that McCain is leading in FL, OH and VA. Palin was in Lady Lake FL the other day and the total crowd was 60,000. McCain was in Wisc. last week and the total crowd was 11,000, when Obama went to the same area as McCain his total was 6,000 short of 5,000. Palin has about four world leader’s to meet tomorrow with McCain then she will be campaigning.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 23, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
There goes Joe Biden again..putting his foot in his mouth! He told CBSNews, “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about, you know, the princes of greed. He said ‘Look, here’s what happened’”.
The only problem is…Herbert Hoover was president in 1929!!!!! FDR wasn’t elected until 3 years later! In addition, TV’s weren’t widely used then, radios were. Joe forgot about the “fireside chats”.
Obama sure picked a winner with Joe! And no one worries that Biden could be president?
Posted by: Mary | September 23, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
How can a Presidential candidate for the United States of America have sooooo many risky behaviour type of friends….domestic terrorists, real estate swindlers, CEO’s of Fannie Mae, etc., and not get absolutely skewered both day and night by the US news media? I just don’t get it. It gives one the impression that the media are outright afraid to criticize him because he’s black. They have no problem belittling the Clintons, McCain, Biden, or Palin but Obama is treated like a Golden Calf that no one dares to even look at let alone criticize. This guy has had some very shady friends over the years (Farrakan, Wright, Ayers, Rezko, etc.) yet the media just sits there whistling Dixie without even a single investigation. It took the National Enquirer, the ultimate tabloid rag if there ever was one, to break the John Edwards wife cheating scandal. Wow, looks like they should get their suits pressed for when the time comes to accept the Pultizer Prize for Investigative Reporting because the MSM have been total wimps — especially during an election year.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Matt, that was the dumbest thing I ever read. First of all, who is running around saying America is bad? Doesn’t being an American mean you speak up for yourself. America was founded by men that didn’t just go along with the masses and accept whatever the government tells them to accept. Read the constitution dude. According to you and your little buddy Camp50, this is supposed to be just like Russia or Cuba…..you follow the state and keep your mouth shut! So according to you two geniuses, the Iraq war is justified and the thousands of our troops that have given their lives for a lie is justified? The mistreatment of those soldiers and Marines when they are wounded is justified. The military families suffering through the many difficult situations they have been thrown into because of an unjust war is justified. I guess having republicans call for more deregulation of the financial sector, only to have us on verge of plunging the world into a depression is justified. I guess bringing this up makes me unpatriotic. You two are idiots. I served proudly in the Marine Corps and I too love this country. But I am smart enough to realize that loving my country doesn’t mean I have to agree with everything the government does or says. This is why we have term limits in government, as well as checks and balances. If you don’t agree with the officials in power you vote them out. You don’t go along with the heard like a couple of balls of meat with eyes. . . you both have brains and eyes – use them!
Posted by: Frankie | September 23, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Obama’s choice of Joe Biden as Vice President shows a total lack of executive leadership. Biden was picked to give Obama some “foreign policy” credentials…something Obama completely lacks. So far, Biden hasn’t done much except to make contrary statements regarding his own candidates’ campaign…the media calls them “gaffes”.
Obama’s poor pick of Biden will correlate directly to the type of people he would have in his cabinet and advisors. Scary, eh?
Posted by: Mary | September 23, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Frankie: Give one reason why you would vote for Obama who missed the senate over 130 times, was against the war but wasn’t in his seat when the voting was going on which means he wasn’t present. And how many times did he vote present? Obama doesn’t like being a senator he want’s to be big time. President of this country and only in the senate three years? Let me state that Biden is ten times smarter than Obama and Biden is right. Don’t bail them out let them claim chapter 11. Cut the executives salaries in half and vacation without pay. The taxpayer’s money should be used for other purposes. Even Ron Paul stated that we shouldn’t bail them out. Its not the president’s fault that they made wrong decisions which cost them the disaster.Obama should listen to Biden and McCain shouldn’t vote to bail them out either.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 23, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
A BOLD PREDICTION:
For this year’s election — McCain/Palin by 6% of the popular vote. You may be asking…why so? Because the media and college-type kids that are usually hired to do polls are all Pro-Obama and will do anything to get “their” candidate elected. The MSM will be utterly shamed by their ineptitude come the day after the election. Chris Matthews will probably go into seclusion as will his cronies at MSNBC.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Ralph: You are so right. McCain is right about his ties to City Hall where all the democratic crooks have their meetings. I live in Chicago, born and raised here. I voted many times for Daley’s father who ran this city like a fine tooth comb. Chicago was great in those days and Daley, Sr. was a smooth politician. Now City Hall is a mess. They need to lay off about 3500 people working for the city that they don’t need. I was waiting for the bus two weeks ago when this streets and sanitation truck stopped there to take care of three small pot holes. There was the driver, and three extra worker’s to fill three small potholes when the driver could have done that job himself. And its who you know not what you know to get a job at city hall today without taking an exam. Obama was in Chicago feeding his face at a fundraiser collecting one million dollars. What happened to his 66 million? Did he pocket some of that money?
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | September 23, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Mariann,
I’m guessing that the corrupt environment has also carried over to Obama’s campaign and maybe that’s why Biden is talking himself out of the VP slot? It’s only conjecture at this point but Biden is all of a sudden sounding very disinterested! He must have changed his mind after getting to know Obama and his corrupt Chicagoland cronies. Sounds like you’re seeing typical gansta-style politics up there in Chicago and Obama no doubt has his hand in the cookie jar. It’s only a matter of time before he gets caught.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Re: “voting for a black guy for president”
Ummm…it’s not really a black/white thing in my eyes. It’s more of a ideology thing. I respect your opinion but I think Obama needs a few more years of governing experience and also needs to shift to center-right a bit before he is electable. I’m of the opinion that he jumped into the Presidential fray four years too soon but only time will tell. If he loses and MSM plays the post-election race card he will be unelectable thereafter because of the “what if he was white” baggage he’d be left holding (actually he’d only be holding it because the media handed it off to him). Micheal Steele, Colin Powell, etc….no problem there. But Obama is known as a far left liberal and did not take enough time to cultivate a more centrist base (like Hillary did). Winning the Democratic nomination is one thing but the general election usually leans toward the more centrist candidate.
Posted by: Ralph | September 23, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Just FYI, unfortunately (or in this case – fortunately) the first time I watched this video of Obama about AIG’s bailout, my DSL was acting up and was sloowww. So, I watched it in slow motion and.. ..would you believe Obama’s body language??? Check out his facial expressions! With a smirk, his expression was totally defensive, as if expecting Matt to fart. ..or as if he didn’t know what the hell he was talking about. Wow, what an impressive leader the dems have chosen! This guy is an economic genius.. I surely hope the libs are proud of him.
Posted by: Albert | September 23, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Mariann Pepitone: First off, you say Biden is soo much smarter than Obama. . . what brings you to that conclusion? Obama has a B.A. from Columbia (Ivy League. . incase you didn’t know) and a J.D. (Juris Doctor) from Harvard where he graduated Magna Cum Laude. He was also the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. Oh-yeah, Harvard is also Ivy League! Will you people please stop making crap up and regurgitating all of that Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly make believe dribble and do your home work.
Also, to answer your question: I am voting for Obama because he, out of everyone, has the most to prove. Not just to himself, but to people like you. He has to get it right and he has to deliver what he says because if he doesn’t America will crucify him. The entire world will be watching to see what he does. That, along with his character, and his intelligence is how I know he is the best person for the job. I just wish he would’ve picked Hillary Clinton as his running mate because her and Bill are politcal geniuses. The republicans have wrecked this country and John McCain is only going to continue that legacy.
Posted by: Frankie | September 23, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Ms. Pepitone -
Please keep up the good work. Your non-sensical, semi-literate ramblings are too good to be true.
I too live in Chicago. Your revisionist view of Daley the First is comical. Do the words “restrictive covenants” ring a bell? Does the word “patronage” mean anything to you? And, boy, elections certainly were on the up and up with King Richard in office. Yes, ma’am, Ol’ Man Daley was a smooth politician. Well, at least he fooled you.
Posted by: jhop | September 23, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Obama only chose Joe Biden so that the ticket would appear beefed up. His advisors must’ve made him do it. They don’t agree on anything. Hell, they probably don’t even talk. CAn’t you tell???
Posted by: midwestlady | September 23, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Well Frankie, as you say, “I am voting for Obama because he, out of everyone, has the most to prove.” You certainly are 100% absolutely correct there, my man. To paraphrase Frankie: Sen. Obama, out of everyone, has the least experience and has the longest way to prove that being a community coordinator in southside Chicago is the best experience needed to lead the most complex nation in the world through national and world crises for the next four years. Yeah, that sounds logical to me. NOT!
Posted by: Albert | September 23, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
jhop,
Have you ever heard of affirmative action?
Uh-huh. I thought so.
Besides, even if the whole thing is all it’s cracked up to be, there are a lot of lawyers out there with paper for brains. A law degree doesn’t particularly mean squat outside the office. I’ll bet there are 10 lawyers in this little country town where I am right now, and I wouldn’t vote for a damn one of them for anything. So much for a law degree.
Posted by: midwestlady | September 23, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
But then again, according to his campaign masterminds, the chosen Sen. Obama does have 300+ political advisors to make up for his lack of experience.
That said, maybe the reason that Obama looks like a deer in headlights when asked non-scripted political questions is because his 300 political advisors haven’t all agreed as to what he should say at that particular moment.
The Democrats must be as proud as [Political]Punch with their choice of Obama for President of the United States. (BTW, has Obama saluted the flag yet??)
Posted by: Albert | September 24, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Frankie: All of the candidates have something to prove. All of the candidates will be watched intensly to see what they will do. All of them will be trying to do and say the right things. So how does any of that make someone more attractive to vote for? your generalizations are confounding. You don’t vote for someone because they “have something to prove.” You vote for him/her because they seem like the person who will get things done. For me that person is John McCain, but that criteria applies to all candidates at all levels.
Posted by: Bryan | September 24, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
Frankie, I want to personally thank you for your service, and say God Bless You for your committment to rational thought and inquiry. Seriously. Thanks for helping to raise the standard of this debate.
Posted by: Justine19675 | September 24, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am
Hmm. It seems Obama conveniently forgets Biden’s 32 years in the Senate.
And ignores McCain’s attempts in 2005 to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which failed because Democrats were making too much money off them. He also forgets taking the second highest amount of money from them of anyone in Congress.
And he forgets everything he said about running a clean ‘new politics’ positive campaign.
He’s just a typical Chicago politician.
Posted by: Rob P | September 24, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
Voters haven’t conveniently forgotten who runs McCain’s campaign two of the meanest political operatives that sold the American People two Bush terms. Notice they are big on names they even nick name themselves ‘Bullet’, ‘Pit Bull’ and they use fear in branding everyone else – ‘Wolves’ etc. Now a lot of us are posting on these comment sections for the first time during a Presidential elections we don’t scare easy and we will hit back through our postings. Now McCains been around a long time with a track record on Wall Street that anyone can look up online.
Anyone can also see online that McCain’s Campaign manager Davis accepted over 2 million dollars from the very same companies that helped cause the problems on wall street.
Posted by: Emily | September 24, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
midwestlady -
Yes, I have heard of of affirmative action and lawyers. Please enlighten us as to what is has to do with anything I mentioned. I guess you assume that by using multi-syllabic words that I must a be an attorney.
Posted by: jhop | September 24, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Sure Kitty, that’s why even Karl Rove said that McCain had gone too far with his lying ads. Like your candidate, you’re full of it!
Posted by: Jen | September 24, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
The Dems are doubting if they chose the right candidate. It is evident their pick was superficially based on looks and sound bites. As the Dem campaign progressed, its strength and breadth has shown to be only ‘skin-deep’. Unfortunately for them, the weakness of the ticket will adversely affect their Congressional base. The election will be a combination of 1984 and 1994 results.
Posted by: beefrank | September 24, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
REGARDING OUR ECONOMY …
What’s the rush? There always seems to be time to fix things, but never enough time to do it right the first time around. Remember … “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”. The consequences of whatever is decided will dramatically affect Americans for decades … so, why not take the proper time and steps to properly explore all alternatives. Newt suggested taking a step back and creating a plan B … perhaps calling upon the people who advised Ronald Reagan, and turned the economy around back then. Besides, we should let the FBI investigation play out, before we decide to make a permanent decision. Like all good carpenters … going back to Jesus … I say: “Measure twice, cut once”.
Posted by: Howard | September 24, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
THE BAILOUT?
Why not bring Alan Greenspan into the mix. He’s the one who warned about this meltdown back in April. Remember, when the democrats voted against his advised legislation to prevent this mess. And, how about Newt, who suggested that we consider a plan B, and consult with the advisers who successfully turned the economy around before, during the Reagan administration. Why are we looking to Paulson and Bernecke? Aren’t they the ones at the helm when this mess took place? An independent panel should determine who will benefit from this bailout … and, who’s asses will be saved by it … and, if any of those people are the ones pushing it through? Let’s not be rushed by foxes, who might be guarding the chicken coup … AGAIN !!!
Posted by: Gina | September 24, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
McCain is part of the stone age, 76 is to old! He’s already using the same advisors bush had ,and don’t think for a second thay won’t try scarying the dum public into another 4 years of republican leadership. Don’t be dum we need real change. and for those that think Obama spends to much time testing the political waters before he decides how to comment on any issue, your right he is lessoning the voice of the people ! now wouldn’t that be nice a president that cares what the people think. McCain is old school, old way, old Politics and lets not forget really old
Posted by: arc | September 24, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Good for MCCain, did anyone know that Paulson is a Liberal Democract. HaHa, you probably thought he was a Republican. Hello…Maybe he is telling the truth. Most Dem-wits love to bury their heads in the sand. I have more confidence in MCCAin, Than Nobama…Maybe Obama should debate Obiden, they disagree alot….
Posted by: OMGptl | September 24, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Obama 2008.
2012, no more 2 party system. Let’s get smarter.
Posted by: matthew | September 25, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Right on Emily. No only did McCain recommend reigning in Freddie and Fannie in 2005, Bush tried to in 2003 (see the new york times archive for sept. of 2003). In 20 years worth of cumulative contributions record keeping by Freddie & Fannie, Obama ranks THIRD after only THREE years in the senate!!!!!
Unbeleivable Democrat Hypocrites!!
Posted by: Trey | September 25, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Howard
It makes so much sense. Measure twice, cut once!
Theses people telling us it has to be done quick. Remember the two wars that were started, over 4000 dead.
Haste make waste! Smart people got us in this let them figure a way out without taxpayer money.
Another transfer of wealth.
Posted by: Vets 4 Obama | September 25, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
We’re going to spend 700 Billion dollars and our friends and neighbors (Stupid as they may be) still get evicted. Is this BIZARRO world ?
Posted by: James Paul Hoerst | September 25, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Does no one remember that we have had a Democrat majority Congress for the last 2 years and that when that Congress came into being that our gas prices at the pump were $2.78 a gallon? Does no one know that the deregulation of the required Mortgage insurance for mortgages on any mortgage with less than 20% down happened during the Clinton administration? Does anyone listen to the economists and understand that what has happened to our economy is not a product of the Republican’s but a product of Wall Street Greed and the majority vote of Democrate’s on bad Bills? Look into the facts don’t just repeat Main Street Media. Vote with your Head not your Heart. Obama wants to take care of everyone by setting up all sorts of programs that that we as tax payers will all be paying for. If you have done your homework you will understand that that is how we got into this economic crisis. By making it a priority that people who could not afford it purchased homes that they had to walk away from. Is this how you manage your own financial priorities and make sure that your children are cared for? We each one of us need to accept responsibility for our decisions and set our priorities based within our economic means. There is nothing wrong with renting until your Budget can move into a House. Millions of Americans do it everyday and understand that it just is a matter of a step at a time. We don’t have to have it all Right Now.
Posted by: Carol | October 13, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am
Yes We can
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